General Debate 21 February 2019

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holysheet

Roads will be safer now after Prince Philip has given up his driving license.

Once he shoots someone, he’s giving up his gun license.
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February 21, 2019 8:01am
- rangitoto
  
  The Duke of Hazzard.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:18am
- Lance
  
  I regularly encounter shit for brains drivers on NZ roads.
  I have had grossly incompetent drivers crash into me, one even tried to deliberately run me over after the crash.
  Yet there aren’t angst ridden TV interviews on how these fuckwit drivers ruin people lives, or how the victims are demanding an apology.
  I wonder why? /sarc/
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:25am
  - Random T Person
    
    Everybody is a terrible driver, except for me. I’m awesome.
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:53am
    - wreck1080
      
      And lance.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:55am
      - Random T Person
        
        Nah sorry even Lance suck.
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:22am
  - Nermal
    
    Saw a 6 car nose-to-tail pile-up outside New World Whangarei yesterday. I had to laugh a few minutes later, with nearly everyone on their mobile phones. I wonder how many had been using them while driving
    
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    February 21, 2019 2:40pm
- secondcumming
  
  And a reminder for both women & Asian drivers in Auckland….
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzzE_z1XcAIJXLt.jpg
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:46am
  - sam green
    
    The 1950’s called – they want their attitude back.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:26pm
    - Tall Man
      
      When wynston gives it up….
      
      You do know that ardern the liar doesn’t pay interns but hey, you want selfies with ardern the liar don’t you.?
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:40pm
Happychappy

As everyone should know by now Winston is the only one that knows.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/the-country/audio/winston-peters-lets-loose-at-judith-collins-jenny-shipley-and-oil-and-gas-ban/
Has there been a bigger aresole than Winston in NZ Politics.
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February 21, 2019 8:02am
- Woz
  
  Ah, a classic piece of Winstonese bluster. Silly old cunt.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:04am
  - skyblue
    
    Cunts are useful especially for Swarbrick and Helen Clarke. Winston is just a cunt.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:05am
    - Blackbob
      
      Not so useful when they’re as big as Winston..
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:15am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      God you guys are terrible! You sound just like my partner. Whenever we go out somewhere he always points to somebody and says, “See him? He’s a cunt”
      And he doesn’t even know them! 🙂
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:34am
      - Random T Person
        
        Mr Pie is clearly a very astute individual.
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:56am
  - Colinxy
    
    Yes, the classic Winston bluster. He pulls that stunt whenever he’s caught out.
    
    You’d think the media would have learned by now that’s his ‘go-to’ play whenever he’s been caught lying (or whatever).
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:31am
    - Tall Man
      
      Click bait.
      
      Zero moral press.
      
      Happy to abet wynston the thief defaming anyone who scares him.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:06am
      - Colinxy
        
        “Supposedly” the media and Winston are at odds (though the Lamestream Media certainly act like Winston groupies).
        
        They’d probably get more clickbait if they cut through his bluster and made him look like the fool he truly is. At the moment it comes more across that the media are aiding and abetting.
        
        The media is certainly complicit in Winston’s political phoenix characteristic when his political career is turned to ashes.
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:14am
- Grant
  
  Could only listen to 60 seconds of that bullshit.
  What a despicable creature Peters is.
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  February 21, 2019 8:12am
  - Swifty
    
    It didn’t improve, believe me.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:33am
  - softail 1450
    
    Grant, Peters is nothing more than short ,fat,grizzled old Maori kaumatua ,this is a man that when he was young denied his Maori heritage .
    When in university the POS put it around that he was Italian and was nick named by students that new him Luigi Peters, I can remember when the dirty little fucker used to regularly bag the Maoris in Parliament for political gain .
    Who can forget him going on for weeks about “there was no such thing as the noble warrior in Maori history”,of course this was just before an election, the fucking bludging troughing POS is a CUNT as WOZ rightly posted…..
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:02am
- peterwn
  
  He is looking stupid over his incompetent handling of Foreign Affairs, and the wheels are falling off his lawsuit against Nat MP’s and bureaucrats, so he has to try and re-position himself. What better target than Jenny Shipley as she successfully put the skids under Winston in 1998 or so.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:16am
  - Bill felt
    
    Unfortunately Shipley is likely to lose the legal case before the courts relating to Mainzeal. This will seriously diminish her reputation and Peters will stick the knife in further.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:52am
    - peterwn
      
      Bad judgment on her part. She should have bailed out at the first suspicion of bother even if it imploded the company. Especially as prominent Auckland lawyer Bruce Davidson got 9 months home detention, 200 hours community work had to fork our $0.5M and suspended from law practice for 9 months because he acquiesced to shady Bridgecorp deals – the judge said he ought to have resigned as Bridgecorp Chair, but he presumably did not because that would have imploded Bridgecorp. As a schoolmate of his said to me – he was out of his depth.
      It is doubtful that Jenny’s inaction would incur such a nasty package of penalties and she may come out of it relatively financially unscathed since Mainzeal would have had Directors and Officers liability insurance.
      But the Bruce Davidson case showed that people like him must not accept ‘figurehead’ directorships merely to add credibility to the company.
      
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      February 21, 2019 12:21pm
- Ruawai
  
  Winston couldn’t give a straight answer on capital gains tax on farms. Farmers spend years on low incomes with the hope their farms will increase in value.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:41am
skyblue

CGT day. Let the fleecing begin.
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February 21, 2019 8:04am
kowtow

Plod is whinging one of their poster girls is being “objectified”.

How sad , if Plod hadn’t chosen her for certain , ahem , attributes , it wouldn’t be a problem .

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12205602
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February 21, 2019 8:04am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  She doesn’t look like a policewoman.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:06am
  - Viking2
    
    Oh Yes they are going for looks over ability these days. Male recruiters do that.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:10am
    - dubya
      
      She’s a 6/10 at best. The WINZ barcodes on her arms are a major turn off.
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:46am
  - Chris R
    
    No she looks just like any other tattooed freak and loser!
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:51am
    - Woz
      
      ‘Fraid so. The fucking awful graffiti on her arms just blows away every last tiny shred of credibility she might have earned from me. Tattoos say a lot about a person, and not what he or she thinks they do.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:32am
      - secondcumming
        
        Maybe it’s just the uniform….. but I’ve always found Policewomen hot!
        
        https://nzhistory.govt.nz/files/june-03-1941-woman-police-training.jpg
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:55am
  - softail 1450
    
    Odakyu-sen ,she looks more like a gang moll ,who was the moron that figured this was a good idea? Oh thats right it was witchy hair Nash FFS.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:30am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The police are either really clever in their selection of this policewoman-pinup, or really inept.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:51am
  - kowtow
    
    Or act like one. The member of the public is the one who should have got the commendation.
    
    ‘As she was doing that, a member of the public tapped Crichton’s shoulder to alert her to the smoke pouring out of the engine and the flames that ignited.’
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/106106146/in-a-split-second-cop-pulls-injured-woman-from-wrecked-fleeing-vehicle
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:48am
- holysheet
  
  They should get with the times
  
  http://mvslim.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/ows_143044704783114.jpg
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:14am
- Longknives
  
  “Plod is whinging one of their poster girls is being “objectified”.”
  
  Interesting – They never complain when their male Officers are ‘objectified’ on their Social Media! (Have a read of the comments on Police Facebook pages whenever there is a Dog Handler or AOS guy in his kit..)
  Also- Personally I think visible tattoos are a terrible look for serving Police Officers. (And I like tattoos and have several myself)
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:16am
  - sooty
    
    They certainly have some plonkers on tv!
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:20am
  - graham
    
    Exactly Longknives. Same with firemen who objectified, I have NEVER seen a complaint about it (and are they still doing the firemen’s calendar??)
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:01am
- Rich Prick
  
  Seriously, is that what passes for “news” these days? We posted something on line, we got some comments. We didn’t “like” those comments. FFS.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:12am
Keeping Stock

Nick Smith got thrown out of the House yesterday for accusing Jacinda Ardern of lying. Here’s the exchange:

Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: Again, I find this line of questioning rich, given the last Government refused to do anything about the fact that only 5 percent of new houses were available in the affordable or first-home buyer category, and their response was to do absolutely nothing—absolutely nothing—[Interruption]—which is why we have the supply issue—

SPEAKER: Order! Who made that interjection?

Hon Dr Nick Smith: I withdraw and apologise.

SPEAKER: And leave the House. There’s already been a warning on that subject, so the member needs to learn.

Hon Dr Nick Smith withdrew from the Chamber.

Smith later made this comment to Stuff:

Speaking to Stuff on his way out of the House, Smith said he didn’t regret the comment, as his Government had built plenty of affordable homes.

“The Prime Minister made a totally false claim that the previous Government did not build any affordable houses. That is factually untrue. I said it was a lie, and I stand by it,” Smith said.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110738498/nick-smith-says-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-is-lying

If Smith can produce evidence that the PM made a false statement and thus misled the House, he should complain to the Speaker about a Matter of Privilege involving the PM. That would put the ball fairly and squarely in Mallard’s court, as he would have to determine whether the reason Smith used an unparliamentary term was because the PM actually told a porkie in the House, which is of course a very serious matter.
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February 21, 2019 8:08am
- Viking2
  
  Sad when you can’t speak the truth.
  
  For the truth will set you free.
  
  If smith has the nuts and Simon as well they should go after her like a robbers dog.
  Beat the shit out the opposition. Stop being nice to awful people.
  The problem with pollies is that they get Stockholm syndrome. They get friendly with their opponents.
  Doesn’t work in war.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:15am
- Poppa
  
  Telling porkies is nothing new for the worst PM in my lifetime
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:15am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Your lifetime? Try in our nations history.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:42am
    - Colinxy
      
      Walter Nash (another Labour PM), especially with the “Black Budget” as a possible contender?
      
      Though at least they had a tangible reason for being arseholes unlike the current mob.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:19am
      - softail 1450
        
        Colinxy, going by his hair colour Walters great grandson Stewart is a bit of a bullshitter as well.
        The reason our country seems in perpetual crisis mode is solely because of the utterly useless shite we continually elect to run the place on all sides of politics,eg that bastard Peters that has been haunting our politics for 40 years .
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:41am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Muldoon was far worse at the end than Cindy is now. Fortunately I very much doubt that we will get to see a third term Cindy.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:38am
- oob
  
  Nick Smith ought to have used the longstanding euphemism, terminological inexactitude.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:16am
- Awww C-mon
  
  She lies everyday in the house, just yelling slogans and rhetoric about 9 long years with no clue about facts or truth.
  You can see she did no work at all in opposition (in government too) and has no idea.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:18am
  - sooty
    
    You can’t tell the truth in parliament.
    But can’t be sued for defamation?
    Is’nt that arse about face?
    Good on him first man to tell the people that ComradeJacinDUH is a liar and got it on Hansard
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:25am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Trouble with her is you can’t really be sure it’s a lie because ignorance is always a likely alternative explanation.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:41am
- artemisia
  
  The PM referred to ‘houses’ and ‘affordable first home buyer category’. If she was referring to 3+ beddies with 2 bathrooms and a double garage on quarter acre in Auckland she may be right.
  
  If she was referring to any new builds in New Zealand she is almost certainly wrong.
  
  She has however opened herself up to some very specific Questions about, for example, what was the definition of ‘affordable’ in 2008, 2009…. And what was the availability of new builds in those years within the affordability definition she is using.
  
  Plenty of data available, once the PM tells the country the measurements she is using.
  
  Wot larks.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:21am
- hullkiwi
  
  You are spot on there. If, Smith has the evidence (which may be difficult as the term “affordable housing” is subjective unless you use the cost of a KiwiBuild as a measure) he should go to the Speaker (& the media) with a complaint against PriNZess fof misleading the house.
  
  As we all know Ardern is a liar.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:27am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    ‘Affordable’ houses are 50 or 60 year old smaller houses in outer suburbs which need a bit of work on them. That’s what first home buyers should be buying.
    New builds, even small ones, are not ‘affordable’ for these buyers.
    Time we indulged in some reality.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:49am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Captain, I agree.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:14am
    - KevinH
      
      In Auckland older homes needing renovation are very much in demand largely because of the size of the sections they sit on.
      Houses built between 1960-1970 have the classic 1/4 acre section.You can move the existing house to the rear or demolish and rebuild two houses.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:55am
    - madamezucchininz
      
      ….totally agree…..this is how we got on the property ladder and we were happy to have the ancient home as our first……
      
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      February 21, 2019 11:08am
- G152
  
  Mallard smack his favourite????
  What part of NO TOUCHING THE PRINCESS ie misunderstood?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:31am
  - sooty
    
    No pitcures of the squrriel either!
    
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    February 21, 2019 12:09pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  Smith was an idiot for using the actual word “lie”. If he’d said the same thing in Parliamentary language the PM would have had to continue to face questions on the subject, eventually even the Speaker would have had to notice that she wasn’t answering the question, and the story would have been about her incompetence and ignorance. Smith’s language and its consequence let her off that hook.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:18am
  - Swifty
    
    He may well have got more publicity this way though.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:27am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Exactly
      Time to start calling her for what she is.
      If they get thrown out, who cares.
      They’re protected by Privilege anyway. And if they want to take it to Committee, great, let’s watch them try and defend her lies.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:36am
    - Happychappy
      
      Swifty and the media being corrupt like they are had the PM up in lights about the way she blitzed the opposition. The headlines should have read PM throwing a tantrum because rightfully so the opposition called her a lie for manipulating the facts.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:40am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Without the allegation of lying there is no story. The interjection is not heard by any outside the chamber.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:43am
    - Tall Man
      
      Loud and clear now….
      
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      February 21, 2019 2:40pm
- peterwn
  
  Evidence is staring people in the face. National proposed RMA changes to make housing development easier but neither Labour or the minor parties would support it. So Jacinda was wrong her claim and Nick called her up on it.
  
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  February 21, 2019 7:05pm
Inandout

Nine in Ten on Garner has a kapa haka leader in Wellington on, all the Maori language crap engaged in. Question was: name 9 insects. The woman answered two, and lots of giggles. TV3 saved paying anything, and the virtues flowed from Garner. What a complete waste of air time.
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February 21, 2019 8:09am
- DigNap15
  
  I saw them wasting time in Parliament yesterday on this festival junk / crap.
  
  Willie Jackson said its all about Maori culture and the language.
  Well most Maori don’t speak it.
  And its time Maori forgot about their culture
  And got some work ethic, morals, and English diction and sentence construction
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:15am
  - Inandout
    
    And the hundreds of thousands of dollars paid by….oh, tax/ratepayers again. Missed school days etc.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:27am
  - MCos
    
    There are a lot of Kiwis, British, Aussies, Russians, Europeans, Americans living in Asia.
    I never met one who ‘forgot about their culture’ or any locals that thought expats should ‘forget about their culture’.
    I most certainly didn’t come across anyone who thought locals should ‘forget about their culture’ because some other one was superior.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:49am
    - Inandout
      
      MCos, you heighten Maori culture when you compare with other true cultures which go back to the beginning of time. But yes, having a Maori on Wellington traffic lights instead of a walking person is so virtuous.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:05am
    - Tall Man
      
      Seriously, what the fuck are you on about?
      
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      February 21, 2019 2:43pm
      - MCos
        
        Do I need to explain it in words of one syllable?
        
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        February 22, 2019 7:39am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Anyone else notice the idiot Justin Lester creaming his jeans over all this TeReo naming of places around Wellington?
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:51am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Ask someone to name the objects in a family home in Te Reo, and I think they might have trouble beyond the level of “table” and “chair.”
  
  What if you ask them to name the parts of a motor car in Te Reo, or even try to explain a simple mechanical problem in the language?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:16am
  - KevOB
    
    Naughty: teasing about the lack of adaptability of an oral, 1835 language for modern use. Maori leaders pointed out that in the 1930’s. They saw the need for change for a future.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:31am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      In my opinion, the pre-war Maori leaders understood the “long game” and had vision.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:54am
      - softail 1450
        
        Odakyu-sen ,not to mention of course a taste for “long pig”although this fact has disappeared from the history taught to students at schools in our country…..
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:00am
      - Tall Man
        
        Current leaders understand “money” and how to bleat to get it.
        
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        February 21, 2019 2:44pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I don’t think English was her problem, she just had a brain blank. Quite hard to name 9 insects, or anything under the pressure of time. That’s the point of the game!
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:35am
    - Inandout
      
      waikato, I do recall she said flies and fleas before she went blank. I didn’t detect any pressure, especially when her cultural TV3 girl was crowing encouragement.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:10am
  - holysheet
    
    Ask someone to name the objects in a family home in Te Reo
    How would you translate KFC?
    nape parai heihei?
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:46am
    - Tall Man
      
      No offense…who gives a fuck?
      
      Dead language and no maori left.
      
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      February 21, 2019 2:50pm
  - namron
    
    Some years ago [when still primary teaching] a start was being made on the introduction of maori – with the labelling of items in the classroom.
    Probably following my reaction, we had big laughs over – putting the “kutikutis” away! [scissors]
    Some kids made big efforts to include “kutikutis’ in their speech just to have another laugh over the word.
    I’d probably be reprimanded, fired etc [even arrested!] so I’m pleased I am retired now.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:56am
    - KevOB
      
      “Kuti” (singular) can be pronounced cutie with consequences.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:52am
    - septic skeptic
      
      When Maori was first written down by European it was supposed to be a phonetic rendering of the word that was in use at the time. What’s the point in fabricating a new Maori word like kutikuti? It’s clearly a phonetic rendering of its function in the English language. Why not just use the English word and spelling? I mean, we don’t have to translate haka into an English equivalent “harker”, do we? Or call it “wardancewardance”?
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:57am
      - KevOB
        
        There are varying rules throughout Polynesia for transliteration of loan words. Kutikuti is plural as shown by the repetition. Cut seems to refer to function, hence scissors. It could be pronounced kooty kooty to give it the cut sound the spelling kati is appropriate.
        There is a formal Polynesian grammar which Maori complies too.
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:14pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      As a naughty wee Latin scholar I made a point of including the words arces, arcis, arcibums (castles, of the castle, incorrect declension) in as many queries to the teacher as I could.
      
      Such a pity about my lousy pronunciations and errors in memorising 3rd declension nouns.
      
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      February 21, 2019 3:02pm
  - Random T Person
    
    What’s the Maori word for ‘aileron’?
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:22am
    - sooty
      
      Koha!
      
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      February 21, 2019 12:11pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      There will be a database somewhere in Wellington with a complete list of synthesized Te Reo terminology.
      
      BTW, the Japanese term for aileron is the old 補助翼 (literally “auxiliary” or “supporting” wing). Most of these aviation terms were well established in Japanese aeronautical engineering after WWI.
      
      “Aileron” is also commonly referred to by the phonetic katakana term エルロン in Japan.
      
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      February 21, 2019 5:41pm
- softail 1450
  
  Dignap15,, Willie Jackson is just a younger uglier version of Peters ,and to be fair Peters has more intelligence in his two hanging jowls than jackson will ever possess…
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:49am
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Good morning kiwibloggers! I hope that everyone out there suffering from Ardern Induced Derangement Syndrome is able to work through it and come out a better person ?
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February 21, 2019 8:09am
- Viking2
  
  We are getting more angry as the days roll by.
  Armed insurrection on the horizon.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:12am
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    The battlecry of the armchair warriors in the keyboard army ???
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:13am
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    Resorting to violence wouldn’t surprise me. It’s what RWNJs do.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:13am
    - Viking2
      
      Well you don’t know much about history nor people do you.
      Go back to school for a few years and do some learning.
      
      Shit for brain.
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:16am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Muttonbrain your roll call is not complete. Where are zdivvy and stiffygirl? Are they getting a briefing on CGT and matters taxation?
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:32am
      - softail 1450
        
        hullkiwi, no those two are arguing over who gets septiboys livestock tonight ???.
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:56am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Projection – that’s what lefties do. The violence in the current political landscape is almost entirely attributable to the leftists, along with almost all of the genuine propaganda.
      
      You can tell what the left are doing by what they accuse you of doing. In that they follow the dictum of one of their archetypes – Goebbels – an unsung hero to the left.
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:39am
      - Swifty
        
        Exactly.
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:56am
    - Swifty
      
      That’s an outright lie Muttonbird.
      
      These days all the violence is coming from the left e.g. smashing up towns and cities when they don’t get their preferred President.
      
      Not to mention the direct attacks from them on freedom of assembly, of speech, of association – and you’ll notice accompanied by the ‘direct action’ they’re so fond of – and which we see in NZ with increasing frequency.
      
      Lefty fascists.
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:55am
- DigNap15
  
  I have that disease.
  And I wont be cured until she’s gone
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:12am
  - marquess
    
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    Thoughts and prayers xoxo
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:14am
- Simon
  
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  Ardern Induced Derangement Syndrome, Made a lot worst by having Simong Bridges the CCP suck up as leader.
  
  Pile on Ardern all they want but for Gods sake dont turn your attention to Mr. 5% it will push you over the edge.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:14am
  - KevOB
    
    First Intern for the day?
    The COL are feeling aggravated; even Mr Speaker has gotten tetchy.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:17am
  - Swifty
    
    Grow up.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:27am
  - Tall Man
    
    An intern trying to deflect us away from the inactivity of the disaster he so happily worships.
    
    Has it sunk in yet that
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    ardern is a sick media whore.
    
    Did I mention that ardern is a liar?
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:58am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Good morning kiwibloggers!”
  
  Are you setting yourself up as the new Public Watchdog?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:15am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Are you giving help after coming to terms with your own struggles with KDS?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:21am
- Lance
  
  marquess is here to tell us why bald faced lying is righteous when the left do it
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:30am
- kowtow
  
  AIDS , a disease this gubmint gives you up by shafting you up yer bum .
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:38am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Why Marquess we love Jacinda. She will be far more effective in motivating voters to keep Labour and the Greens away from treasury benches for 9 years than Hell-en could have ever achieved.
  She epitomises all that is bereft in modern politics from the left.
  
  You must be so proud of her achievements to date ?????????
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:47am
- Tall Man
  
  So you’ve finally cracked and realise that ardern the liar won’t be doing anything for her dipshit supporters. All you are left with are childish outbursts.
  
  I for one am completely unaffected by the actions of ardern the liar and will remain so for some time.
  
  I do, however, see an unhappy future for those at the bottom of the tree, such as yourself, when our economy falters.
  
  State dependants, such as yourself, will be the worst affected and while you may have a paroxysm of joy when you post midless drivel, the rest of us will have to watch you and the rest of you loonies face the sad reality that ardern is a liar and will deliver you nothing.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:55am
Chuck Bird

Surely this sort of crime deserves a deterrent sentence. Very few if any women get jailed for this offence. The feminazis want the woman to always be believed and/or the verdict to be determined on the balance of probabilities rather than a reasonable doubt.

Woman who lied about rape showed ‘vindictiveness I can’t even fathom’, says judge

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/110713917/woman-who-lied-about-rape-showed-vindictiveness-i-cant-even-fathom-says-judge?fbclid=IwAR2Uq3FE_3CtwYrpe33UTqIxnCtGgiV_xM4fyOt17Tf_8pwIfTNT58vtqIc
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February 21, 2019 8:11am
- srylands
  
  She was convicted but discharged. I would have thought that home detention would have been the right sentence, but what would I know.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:13am
  - fernglas
    
    If the guy had been convicted he would have got 8-9 years. She was eligible for a 3 year maximum.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:34am
- Tricati
  
  No comment from Ali Mau – MeToo
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:42am
  - septic skeptic
    
    There should be. Otherwise people might think she is just a man hater.
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:06am
- tui47
  
  This also occurred around 18 months ago at a prominent Auckland school. A wealthy and extremely attractive girl tried to get revenge on her boyfriend. Even though neither had ever had intercourse she falsely accused him of rape. She spread it around the school that he was a rapist. She did not tell police or her parents, she merely told students. The boy’s classmates bullied him and whispered ‘rapist’ every time he walked past. He was a quiet, gentle and kind boy. He was forced to temporarily leave school. He failed his exams and attempted suicide. His family tried to deal with it quietly as any smear to his name (whether true or not) Could ruin his life. They engaged a lawyer, talked to the school and the girl’s parents. The school said that as the act he was accused of occurred out of school, it was not their business. The boy eventually returned to school but chose to move down a year to avoid the bullies and retake his qualifications. The girl remains at the school and the school made no attempt to expell her . She admitted she had lied as she wanted to ‘hurt’ him. However, strangely every few months she repeats her accusations around school once again. This girl has done terrible damage to this boy. Many boys are steering well clear of this girl. I personally believe her presence at the school is a danger to the safety of the boys if it occurs again.
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:02am
  - Tall Man
    
    She’ll be in witless protection from labour as a likely candidate for the future.
    
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    February 21, 2019 2:54pm
srylands

So natural gas production is forecast to almost double between now and 2050?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/652112/forecast-of-global-natural-gas-production/

Yes I know that forecasting to 2050 is fraught, but I cannot find any reputable energy forecasts that show a decline in natural gas consumption by 2050. The “reference” case forecast for the USA is that production will increase by 400 percent – yes quadruple by 2050.
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February 21, 2019 8:11am
- holysheet
  
  If “Natural Gas” is so bad, why is it called natural.
  Asking for a friend, you understand.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    I heard an absolute nutter speaking to Peter Williams on Magic claiming that cannabis was ok because it was natural but alcohol was bad because it wasn’t natural.
    
    How did we manage to breed so many really stupid people.
    
    Obviously there are no “natural” poisons and being eaten by a shark is ok because….it’s natural.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:48am
- Ross12
  
  srylands
  It is not just the USA. The UK has heaps !
  
  “Ineos, Britain’s biggest private company, claims drilling results from its field in Nottinghamshire suggest “U.S. levels” of shale gas under the soil.
  Tests found an average level of 60.7 standard cubic feet per tonne of gas – compared with an average 39 (scf) at a vast shale field in Texas.
  Ineos Shale chief operating officer Tom Pickering claimed it was the most significant drilling result so far in the short history of Britain’s shale industry.
  He told The Sun: “It’s obviously early days but these are the highest readings in the UK we have ever seen.”
  Geologists believe there could be 436 trillion cubic feet of gas in this part of the Bowland Basin. This test is consistent with that.”
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:17am
slightlyrighty

Can I ask, at what point did Gender become a point of contention?

Why do Trans Activists feel the need to challenge everything? The Pride Parade was destroyed by Trans Activists. Whittakers have been slammed by less than 2% of the population for having the temerity to use Pink and Blue.

The TERF war against radical feminists has been fun to watch.

To be frank, it’s doing their cause more harm than good.

When did Transgenderism get such a high profile? Others may wonder why I, along with others are placing so much emphasis on a minority, but anyone who follows Jordan Peterson will understand that tactics used by this small minority to effect broad change are dangerous.

When misgendering a person, or refusing to use invented pronouns results in arrest and imprisonment, we should sit up and take notice.

When liking a Limerick on Social Media results in a visit by the police to “Check your Thinking”. We should sit up and take notice.

When women are forced to accept Transgender people in their private places, resulting, just last week in 9 year old girl being assaulted by a transgender person in a woman’s bathroom, we must acknowledge that there is a problem.

When a transgender woman in prison rapes 2 female inmates, There are issues.
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February 21, 2019 8:13am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If I perceive someone to be a man (based on their appearance and conduct) am I guilty of a crime if I refuse to call them the gender they desire?
  
  If so, then the State has the power to dictate the “truth” to me. What happens to freedom of speech?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:20am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Freedom of speech”…surely you mean “freedom of SPEAK”.
    
    We are now required to “speak” the “new” language as determined by our overlords. I for one refuse to say “poverdee” like ardern the liar or slur like wynston the thief.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:42am
  - kowtow
    
    The state has given itself awesome powers. The UK.
    
    ‘A Christmas party for The Priory rehabilitation clinic saw a man “black up” as a minstrel and sing “Mammy” to a black colleague, a court has heard after he was charged with racial harassment. ‘
    
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/20/man-blacks-minstrel-sings-racist-song-black-colleague-priory/
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:47am
- mandk
  
  “Whittakers have been slammed by less than 2% of the population for having the temerity to use Pink and Blue”
  
  Were Whittakers really slammed by less than 2% of the population? Or did some click bait operative on Stuff choose to manufacture a controversy on behalf of a lone nutter from Aro Valley who spat the dummy because it felt excluded?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:31am
  - Ruawai
    
    Why have the gay community been allowed to take over the words ‘Pride’ and ‘Rainbow’? They already had their own words like gay, bi, homosexual and trans.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:52am
    - waikatogirl
      
      “Gay” has also been hijacked by the homosexual community. It was an acronym for “GOOD AS YOU”.
      
      The word gay was once descriptive of something happy and fun as in the Flinstone’s song with the ending line”have a gay old time” There were even icecream cones called “Gaytime”. I went to primary school with a girl who’s name is Gay.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s13X66BFd8
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:11am
      - kevn
        
        @WG… Same for rainbow. It used to be just that.
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:18am
    - howitis
      
      They already had fudge packer; rear gunner; turd burglar; poo pusher ; arse bandit; shirt lifter et al.
      
      It is a bit of a bummer they want to steal these other words like ‘gay’ as well.
      My old aunty, now deceased, was never happy about this association.
      
      Given that the homosexual community has a higher rate of depression that average then they Do Not deserve to use the word ‘gay’.
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/stonewall-strong/201806/depression-is-killing-gay-men
      https://www.healthline.com/health/depression/gay
      
      On the other hand, the C-word claim by Marama Davidson seems appropriate.
      
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      February 21, 2019 11:11am
      - starboard
        
        Dont forget chocolate fingered cowboy
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:41pm
  - Ruawai
    
    The media need to stop giving the spotlight to the loudest 1%.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:53am
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      As much as 1%?
      0.1%, surely
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:07am
      - Tall Man
        
        I think it was around the 0.003% that were born physically “intersex”.
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:41am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Like the National Party last week, Whittakers will be loving the free publicity. I bought the last bar in the local New World on Tuesday, and if they have been restocked, will buy another one today.
    
    It’s the perfect way to fight back against those who are perennially outraged and want to impose their extreme minority views on the rest of us 😀
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:58am
    - Tall Man
      
      And the second “all sizzle and no sausage” clip is circulating as well.
      
      I wonder if we’ll get brett and dave on here telling us how women feel again…….
      
      I’ll bet the ladies on here are so pleased to have a couple of men explaining their “outrage”…
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:26am
      - waikatogirl
        
        No snowflake outrage by the msm over the 2nd “all sizzle and no sausage” ad. Guess they realised they were just giving the mean National party free advertising.
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:31am
- G152
  
  Thank fake news and its assortment of snowflakes for these changes in society.
  Use laughter against them drive them out of their tiny bigoted minds
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:36am
  - artemisia
    
    Just be clear we are laughing at them, not with them.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:39am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Sorry bro’, fat fingers, small phone . . . ?
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:36am
- Ruawai
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:51am
- Albert_Ross
  
  I wish we’d stop using TERF as a term of abuse. To do so is to fall straight into the trap of seeing the opinion that men don’t become women simply by wishing it so, as a radical viewpoint only held by loony extremists.
  
  Thus by using the term TERF, you are conceding that most sensible, normal, non-loony people are perfectly happy to accept that men should be allowed to use women’s facilities and compete in women’s sport if they want.
  
  Really?
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:27am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Seen the ad on the box where ‘did not so much lose a daughter but gained a son’
    
    Normalising a mental disorder with my fing tax dollars! Arseholes and more arseholes, all of them!
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:40am
  - Swifty
    
    Well said.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:43am
  - Sacha
    
    What does TERF mean?
    
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    February 21, 2019 2:50pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Loudmouthed lezzie fuckwit…
      
      I think.
      
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      February 21, 2019 2:57pm
      - Albert_Ross
        
        No. That is precisely the point here. TERF stands for “Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist” and it is used to label anybody who /doesn’t/ think that men who think they are women, actually are women. Anybody who does /not/ agree that such men should be accepted and treated as women, up to and including ways that endanger, threaten or disadvantage actual women, eg using women’s changing rooms, participating in women’s sport – that is a TERF.
        
        By equating TERF with loudmouth lezzie fuckwit, you are suggesting that normal, reasonable, non-fuckwit people agree that if a man thinks he’s a woman, then he is.
        
        Is that your opinion, TallMan?
        
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        February 21, 2019 3:12pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Good analogy albert but really, are we going to argue about who is the bigger fuckwit?
        
        I have dealt with a few lesbians, few are easy to deal with, me being a man but I have learned that “lesbian” hate is really really hate. They can direct that hate at men, at ex’s and anyone else who they think is trying to undermine them.
        
        Now, I have to confess that I have never dealt with a man who wants to be thouught of as a woman. I’m not too sure how they would come under my business wing and I’m not distressed about that.
        
        So, to summarise incase you missed my point.
        
        I regard lesbians as fuckwits and those who rant and rave about anything are loudmouthed but I do have some sympathy for them in this case but, still loudmouthed fuckwits.
        
        Is that an explanation you can live with?
        
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        February 21, 2019 6:46pm
KevOB

The future of work…what are we going to do with the underemployed? Do our stats show those?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3XxO1VIvPNDQvgLueUgCbuOjjtrSCXVqdSM2oyoEEYAFGVSbqjFxH3z2U
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February 21, 2019 8:15am
Simon

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Simong Bridges earns plenty of groveling points for the CCP. (Chump change well spent for sure by the CCP) But really Jian Yang should be Natz leader. The groveling points would be so worth it.

With Yang as head of Natz CCP wouldn’t have to use middle men and would cut out the paperwork. Natz would be tapped into the CCP even more. (if that is possible)
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February 21, 2019 8:16am
- Lance
  
  Hey Simon
  Why does Arden lie to us?
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:33am
- Tall Man
  
  And kelvin davis says…”We’ve had strong growth in visitor numbers from China year on year, we’re expecting numbers to grow this year, so there’s not an issue,” .
  
  Gosh, is he really that keen on Chinee people coming to New Zealand…..surely not or…
  
  like ardern the liar
  
  is
  
  he a liar as well?
  
  Simon, can you elaborate on the mental dysfunction you have that allows you to be in awe of a liar after all, even Hansard reports that
  
  ardern is a liar.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:24am
- lonma
  
  I think I’ve downvoted every other post you’ve made. Upvote this time. Well done. Truth hurts some people.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:35am
  - Tall Man
    
    Downvoted….why?
    
    At least I am consistant and not “confluxed” or “conflated” like some.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:53am
    - lonma
      
      The reply isn’t to you Tallman. Simon may have earned 39 downvotes (and counting) but he’s got a point.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:51am
      - Tall Man
        
        Oops, mt bad.
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:10am
secondcumming

A rather concerning pamphlet in our letterbox…..

‘Biosecurity NZ’ is investigating a find of two Houseflies (Musca domestica) in a surveillance trap in Remuera.

The flies were collected from a housefly-trap and formally identified on the afternoon of 19 February. A controlled area notice has been issued for Remuera.

‘Biosecurity NZ’ staff are well practiced in dealing with this situation. Since the Flies were found, we’ve been working to locate any others and eradicate them.

Signs have been erected in Remuera informing residents, that where possible, to dispose of their daily waste in council rubbish bins located in outlying suburbs, pending your normal weekly collection.

CALL US IF YOU SEE A HOUSEFLY OR LARVAE.

http://ketenewplymouth.peoplesnetworknz.info/image_files/0000/0012/8313/mating_house_flies.JPG
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February 21, 2019 8:16am
- DigNap15
  
  Hope they put those in South Auckland as well.
  The second one may have come from the Islands!
  (Who would have guesses)
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:31am
- waikatogirl
  
  Now we find out that passengers cruise ships visiting NZ ports who may have food on them are not even checked by a customs dog on disembarking.
  
  No wonder we have little critters finding their way into our isolated country.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:54am
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    February 21, 2019 8:55am
Happychappy

Shane Jones can’t get the unemployed off the couch but https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12205642 need plenty of state housing in Nortland to help them.
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February 21, 2019 8:16am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes they want our tax money, but wont work for it.
  So where there is seasonal work, stop all benefits.
  That will give them some work and some work ethic.
  
  But wait they think they are worth $20 an hour.
  In the USA their minumm wage is under $US in most states and around $10 in some states.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:30am
- KevOB
  
  The Herald article was about a grandmother with two small children needing accommodation. Reasonable for a change.
  
  Shane Jones’s vision of getting his tribal youth off the couch is also reasonable. It’s the how that’s difficult. Have playstations replaced work?
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:01am
hullkiwi

Three Tory Remoaners have now defected to join the 8 Labour defectors. The three Tories are Remoaners (good riddance). There is talk there will be up to a further 10 Tory defectors. The Tories are all complaining their local constituencies have been taken over by hardline Brexiteers from the collapsed UKIP.

Reality check here, UKIP was comprised largely of people from the Conservative Party in the county shires of southern and middle England. These people left the Tory Party because the leadership of the Tory party from John Major to David Cameron were weak on Europe and were supported/bank rolled by corporate vested interests that traded with Europe. (For those that scoff, it was common until the Blair govt clamped down on it for MPs & Cabinet/govt ministers to make more money from lobbying interests than from their parliamentary salary – the worst example in modern times was David Mellor).

Anyhow, the other side of the coin is the expectation that an ever greater number of Labour Remoaner MPs will defect because of Corbyn is ambivalent when the next vote on Europe is held.

Commentators are saying this could be more substantial a shift in British politics than when the Gang of 4 went off to form the SDLP.
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February 21, 2019 8:17am
- Albert_Ross
  
  It’s long been the case that the main dividing line in the UK Parliament is not between the Tories and Labour but between pro and anti Europe. This development may simply formalize that.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:31am
MCos

Tweet of the day

‘South African rugby player Nico Lee banned for 13 weeks for clearing nose on face of opponent’
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February 21, 2019 8:20am
- alloytoo
  
  That’s snot right.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:30am
Albert_Ross

Late in yesterday’s GD Maggy W posted a link to an article by Jesse Mulligan expressing his shock at Ngai Tahu cutting down a forest and bringing about the extinction of a beetle species for the sake of a dairy farm, despite the pleas and offers of assistance from the Department of Conservation.

It’s a sad tale, but perhaps some good may come of it if it causes Jesse and his like to do some actual, serious thinking as to why they are surprised that iwi would do such a thing.

The myth of the “noble savage” imbued with a deep sense of care and one-ness with the environment is a fine and lovely thing that we’d all like to believe, but in the real world there’s precious little hard evidence that other cultures (given the technology and the opportunity) are any better at environmental stewardship, and certainly not more willing to make sacrifices for it, than is the white patriarchy. Why should they, and why would they, put concern for beetles ahead of an opportunity to make money that their people need?

In this case the lovely, fluffy lefty assumption that other cultures are better at self denial and long term thinking than ours, the more so the more primitive they are, has led to real damage.

With Rachel Stewart’s thoughts on Jordan Petersen, that makes two articles in which lefty journos show some sign that reality is getting through to them in as many days. If this continues the Right will have to up its game in the battle for the reasonable centre
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February 21, 2019 8:22am
- mandk
  
  Kaitiakitanga?
  
  Yeah, nah.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:26am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Indeed. The existence of a word for it in te reo seems to be the main evidence for its existence as a guiding force in Maori life, and that is no evidence at all. English also has words for many fine concepts – courtesy, responsibility, charity etc – but this is no evidence that these things are likely to be practised by all or even most English speakers, particularly when there is enrichment at stake.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:48am
- Tall Man
  
  I don’t mind having loopy lefty journalists as long as we have loopy right wing journalists providing balance when either are penning opinion pieces.
  
  What I object to is having their bias appplied to the news and current affairs. I also object to “media run campaigns” such as the current “let’s destroy Simon Bridges” effort. If that campaign was balanced with honest and accurate reporting of ardern the liar and her coalition with wynston the thief and the watermelon greens then I would say go for it.
  
  But we don’t have a balanced or neutral media.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:30am
  - alloytoo
    
    @Tall Man
    
    The problem is that Centre rightist’s have no problem condemning far right nutters as nutters.
    
    Centre leftist’s appear to have (in the main) no such ability to condemn far leftists as nutters and as a result enable them.
    
    Almost something sinister 🙂 about that.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:42am
    - Tall Man
      
      “New Speak”.
      
      That’s the path we are all on unfortunately.
      
      “Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls
      It’s a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world”
      
      The Kinks….1970.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:18am
      - Disillusioned_Voter
        
        “Girls who are boys
        Who like boys to be girls
        Who do boys like they’re girls
        Who do girls like they’re boys
        Always should be someone you really love”
        
        Blur… early 90’s
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:38am
  - mic
    
    The ‘destroy Simon Bridges’ campaign appears to be getting worse. Bad headlines, for things that the COL are responsible for, frequently have his face fronting them, anything he says gets mocked. The majority of the MSM is ‘absoludely’ disgusting in their so obvious partisanship, never investigating all the lies and f—ups perpetrated by this COL. I wasn’t a supporter of Bridges to begin with but IMO he has grown since last year and has managed to deal with all the garbage thrown at him. To those who say he doesn’t have any cut through, who the hell in this National Party would? The media just won’t give him or them the same opportunities they lovingly give this shit COL, unless, as I said previously, they are negative headlines. I can’t abide the lies and obfuscation of this COL so am now firmly behind Bridges and hope he has the character to stay strong because between now and the election he will be constantly belittled.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:40am
    - KevOB
      
      This week I joined the National Party to put my modest contribution where my mouth is.
      
      If the media deny the Nats a voice the people will speak louder.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:04am
- Inandout
  
  AR, some Maori people cause shudders when they move into a street, and the lawns grow, and the cars assemble on the front lawn, and they care nought about the environment.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:35am
  - DigNap15
    
    You forgot the all night parties.
    And the kids running round the street in few clothes with snotty noses! (glue ear anyone?)
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:45am
  - kevn
    
    @InOut… You can add dogs (even tho the tenancy agreement say no dogs) and sooo many visitors. Many of who stay over then come and go randomly.
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:20am
- cmm
  
  These people forget that the only reason the “noble savages” didn’t damage more was because of their lack of technology.
  
  It is quite amazing what the bros achieved with no wheel, draught animals, saws or metal axes to cut down and move logs; no guns or bows and arrows to kill moa.
  
  Imagine if they’s had trucks and chainsaws!
  
  Same in Africa: the Zulus pulled off the biggest genocide since Genghis Khan with no wheel, horses, or any of the toys Genghis Khan had.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:02am
- Lizziep
  
  Jessie Mulligan is a pathetic leftist
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:39am
- Colville
  
  any difference to the Iwi selling quota to overseas interests to enable the rape of the sea and pile of cash for Maori elite?
  
  Its all about the bucks!
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:55am
mandk

Agnes Loheni (National’s newest MP) delivered a very fine Maiden Statement yesterday.

She spoke powerfully about her upbringing and about how her parent’s high expectations of her helped her to achieve.

She also spoke about the “soft bigotry of low expectations” that is stopping many people in our country from achieving. She borrowed that phrase from a speech writer for George W Bush, but it is very apt.

Do take a look: https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=205096
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February 21, 2019 8:23am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, I saw her speech.
  The Labour and Greens MP’s must have been spewing when they heard her say that and she talked of aspiration and hard work.
  The exact opposite of what they espouse.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:27am
- KevOB
  
  “I can do all things through God, who strengthens me.”
  A Biblical quotation From Agnes Loheni’s introductory speech. A woman of integrity and ability; another asset for National.
  It is possible to select capable list members.
  Malo tele lava Agnes Loheni.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:45am
  - Swifty
    
    Did she really say that?
    
    Oh dear, that’s a pity. I thought she was better than that.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:01am
    - KevOB
      
      She knows where true strength lies.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:09am
      - mandk
        
        Indeed
        
        He gives strength to the weary
        and increases the power of the weak.
        Even youths grow tired and weary,
        and young men stumble and fall;
        but those who hope in the Lord
        will renew their strength.
        They will soar on wings like eagles;
        they will run and not grow weary,
        they will walk and not be faint.
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:20am
      - Swifty
        
        A hypothetical.
        
        Next election, let’s say ten Muslims get elected to our Parliament and in their introductory speeches all praise Allah and bang on about how much strength they gain from their belief that Allah is God and Mohammed is his (last and final) messenger and that their decisions will guided by their belief in Islam.
        
        What would be your honest reaction to that turn of events? Perfectly happy?
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:38am
      - waikatogirl
        
        She was right about “soft bigotry” being the downfall of Maori and PI.
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:06am
      - Swifty
        
        Agreed.
        
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        February 21, 2019 12:22pm
Happychappy

What sort of a two bedroom home will you get for $360,000 as Twyford does more deals with the private sector in Construction. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=12205464
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February 21, 2019 8:29am
- hullkiwi
  
  As a follow up to this deal, I heard the Property Council singing the praises of the deal and suggesting that more construction companies should get with the programme.
  
  KiwiBuild is all sizzle and no sausage because:
  1. It is building cramp, cheap dog boxes nobody wants,;
  2. Is expensive to administer;
  3. Is propping up builders, building houses nobody wants;
  4. Is using builders and resources that could be better deployed elsewhere.
  
  When will these muppets get out that politicians need to stop wasting taxpayers money, then we would not need a Tax Working Group looking at how to fleece taxpayers for more tax.
  
  Simple really!
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:44am
  - alloytoo
    
    You forgot “Where” nobody wants.
    
    There was a name for major building projects building houses people couldn’t afford, didn’t want and where people didn’t want to live.
    
    What was that name again…..
    
    oh yeah, when the yanks did it, they called it the GFC.
    
    (and no Kiwibuild isn’t going to cause a GFC, maybe just a KFC)
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:52am
  - Tall Man
    
    The simple fact is that New Zealand was already building at capacity.
    
    A kiwibuild home will just replace the “private build” that would have alrready occurred.
    
    It’s the words “at capacity” that these clowns do not understand.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:15am
    - alloytoo
      
      As I’ve said elsewhere, the developers are flogging off the “dogs” that no one wants to Kiwibuild.
      
      “Corporate welfare” isn’t that what the lefties bleat about.
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:29am
      - Sacha
        
        I’d like to know: what’s in it for the developers that they are building ‘cheap’ houses in stead of quality ones. I bet there’s a cash pool floating around behind the bushes.
        
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        February 21, 2019 3:01pm
    - lonma
      
      In the Mike Greer deal, I suspect a lot of the private builds were finished prior to the announcement. Back of the envelope maths suggests if 1/3 of the 104 houses were already finished, and another 1/3 will be built on land Mike Greer purchased but hasn’t built on as he knows they won’t sell, eg unused holdings in Rangiora, Kaiapoi and Rolleston, that his company has just been bailed out by around 20-25 million dollars.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:57am
- Tricati
  
  Mike Greer must think all his Christmases have come at once – He has numerous unsold properties here in Christchurch as his greed after the earthquakes showed no bounds.
  Now the long suffering taxpayer will bail him out thanks to Twyford’s ever increasing incompetence & ego.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:20am
- KevOB
  
  Who buys 2-bedroom homes? Banks have declined to lend on them.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    They are certainly not keen.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:34am
- waikatogirl
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:07am
Lee C

Speaking of ‘soft bigotry’ see ‘clever’ marquess. likening anyone who points out Ardern’s lies to the house to ‘AIDS’.

While ‘Simon’ likes to exploit references to people with Down’s Syndrome, laced with oblique racism.

What a sad indictment of your perverse brand of tribalism you two are.

This from people who whored out their political beliefs by getting into bed with Winston Peters.

Citing terminal illness, being racist and poking fun at those with learning difficulties is surely the least of your problems?

You truly are a pair of ‘soft bigots’.
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February 21, 2019 8:32am
- Muttonbird
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Harden up, snowflake.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:45am
  - alloytoo
    
    Don’t mistake irritation for faux outrage.
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    You show yourself to be a truly useless individual. I can see why you are drawn to ardern the liar.
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:12am
    - Muttonbird
      
      Had a drink today yet?
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:38am
      - Tall Man
        
        Of course, doesn’t everyone start the day with a “bolly” or two.
        
        You’re a sad wee loser and I will enjoy seeing your “come down”.
        
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        February 21, 2019 9:49am
Swifty

Looks to me like Sajid Javid had an ILG moment, but passed the test.

Should people who joined terrorist organisations be allowed back into Western society?

In this case, this piece sums it up for me:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6722809/SARAH-VINE-Shamima-Begum-snowflake-terrorist-deserved-door-slammed-face.html

She presents as just too far gone.
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February 21, 2019 8:44am
Lee C

“Harden up, snowflake.”
Come and make me sugar-tits.
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February 21, 2019 8:49am
kowtow

Our media still going on about those “unruly” tourists and describing them as British . They’re Irish itinerants , “travellers” and as ‘British’ as Shemima Begum.
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February 21, 2019 8:50am
Manolo

Finally. Mueller is ready to publish his report.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/special-counsel-conclusion-announcement/index.html
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February 21, 2019 9:03am
- Fletch
  
  I wonder how they are going to spin it – because it will be spun. It’s plain for anyone with a brain to see that the whole “collusion” thing is non-existent and was a way to get Trump.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:42am
- G152
  
  Reported by Clinton never news.
  Still a few years to the next presidential election so it cant be what the democraps thought
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:07am
Lee C

Waikato Girl. There should be rules about cruise ships – ie spend some of their disposable income in the place they visit. They often arrive disembark, visit, leave crap behind, use facilities then return to their ship to eat, having spent not even a dollar with local businesses. Dunedin experiences this parasitic exploitation all the time.
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February 21, 2019 9:17am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Cruise ships will inevitably bring some money in. Maybe not much but some. And there is likely a lot of other produce etc that is bought on board at each port.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:11am
  - Colville
    
    The ships come to Napier and they spend.
    Waste of time trying to get into a decent restaurant when a boat is in and there are art etc shops designed with that trade in mind.
    Its all good.
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:58am
EAD_THREE

I’ve been given a time-out on Twitter for the following innocent video, which imagined a nice, homogeneous, harmonious, wholesome nation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FoXv4REbPeE

Absolutely zero promotion of hate or violence.

The fact I’m being forced to delete it after 60 retweets and likes shows you how true the message of the so-called “offending” tweet was.
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February 21, 2019 9:18am
- Swifty
  
  You are deluded if you think Nazism is something to be celebrated or cherished.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:33am
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Gotcha,
    
    let’s celebrate a globo homo world diversity, globalism, degeneracy, Transgenderism, hollow consumerism, the MSM, debt, social media, isolation, derancination and a culture of mediocrity where all are equal.
    
    Sounds amazing – where do I sign up?
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:53am
  - Swifty
    
    It’s not either/or FFS.
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:07am
    - EAD_THREE
      
      In reality Swifty, I’m afraid it is.
      
      You see, you need to stand back and understand that the fake political compass inherent to our Western liberal democracy is an illusion of choice
      
      The “left vs. right” compass is a massive distraction – it enables the elites to perpetuate the idea to European descended nations that the electorate are being offered some kind of meaningful choice between a left wing and a right wing when neither the left nor the right, as they’re constituted at present, are likely to have any impact whatsoever on the plans of that class of internationalist oligarchs who wish to engineer for themselves a global world order without borders where nation states and distinct peoples and cultures are a thing of the past (see Coudenhove Kalegri Plan ).
      
      This lack of clarity over what it means to be “left wing” or “right wing” also provides ample opportunity for various politicians, political activists and bad actors to smear their opponents with accusations of left or right-wing bias depending on the rhetoric they find politically expedient and most pleasing to their followers in any given moment.
      
      This simply adds to the fog of confusion and bewilders the likes of yourself by creating the appearance of a conflict you feel they can participate in (in Kiwiblog no less) and whose outcome you somehow believe will make a difference to your life.
      
      In reality, the winner in this contrived conflict matters little since whichever side wins, we all remain stuck on the Globalist plantation.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:25am
      - Swifty
        
        I agree with much of what you say but as if Nazism is the answer.
        
        Good grief.
        
        As a kid in Wellington my parents were friends with people with numbers on their arms EAD. I saw them.
        
        You just can’t be serious.
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:53am
      - Swifty
        
        72154
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/editors-picks/7111583/Zofia-survived-the-terror-of-the-Nazis
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:03am
      - Swifty
        
        https://shalom.kiwi/2017/01/reflections-on-the-holocaust/
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:04am
      - EAD_THREE
        
        friends with people with numbers on their arms
        
        All that proves is…your parents had a number of friends with numbers on their arm. Which is more than the dead people of the Holodomar got (see below). Heck Japanese prisoners at Featherston got tattoos but it doesn’t mean they got holocausted.
        
        https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
        
        How did their friends survive an “extermination” camp and why would Nazis go to the trouble of transporting people thousands of miles over weeks, tattooing them if their plan was to “exterminate” them.
        
        What do you make of Churchills words:
        
        “I have always said that if Great Britain were defeated in war I hoped we should find a Hitler to lead us back to our rightful position among the nations”
        
        Or Kennedy’s words:
        “After visiting these two places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived….He had in him the stuff of which legends are made”
        
        Have you ever considered that perhaps the reason he is vilified by the MSM is because Fascism overcame the same Marxism we are engulfed by and thus it is necessary to caste him and the Germans as the acme of evil?
        
        I mean, just look at this sh*t:
        
        https://www.teenvogue.com/story/lgbtq-institute-in-germany-was-burned-down-by-nazis
        
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        February 21, 2019 12:23pm
      - Swifty
        
        Do you deny the holocaust EAD?
        
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        February 21, 2019 1:03pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        You’ve abandoned all attempts to discuss like an adult and instead you have invoked what those that disseminate the globo-home propaganda have created to be one of the most loaded terms in the English language – arguably worse than “Racist” or “Bigot”
        
        Are you still beating your wife?
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:18pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        and which “Holocaust” are you referring to?
        
        I’m guessing not the Armenian Holocaust or the Holodomar or Rhine Meadows – are they real ones you prefer not to talk about (even though it is perfectly safe to as you don’t have to worry about the threat of arrest).
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:21pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, estimates that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3 to over 10 million people, most likely 6 million Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians, Indonesians, Filipinos and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war .
        
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:25pm
      - Swifty
        
        What an arsehole you are EAD.
        
        Everyone’s lying about the Nazi exterminations?
        
        Even the Nazis who undertook them, who have been truthful about what they did?
        
        You’re sick mate.
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:45pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Are you referring to the Nuremberg Show Trials?
        
        A Kangaroo Court if ever there was one!
        
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        February 21, 2019 10:09pm
alloytoo

“Disability pay under the microscope”

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/career/disability-pay-under-the-microscope/ar-BBTRv5x?ocid=spartanntp

Saw this on the news last night. Another solution looking for a problem.

These folks receive (lower) special pay rates which are then supplemented with targeted benefits.

I don’t have a problem with any of that.

The employer is able to offer more uneconomical jobs by paying the lower rate (indeed many are charities setup for this purpose).

The state is then able to provide additional aid based on the needs of the individual.

These people don’t have to work for these rates, I’m sure there is nothing stopping them not working or going to the market for minimum wage or more.

On the TV the minister suggested that employers would be made to pay minimum wage and retain uneconomical jobs by way of a subsidy to the employer.

Of course if they receive minimum wage then these people will receive less targeted assistance.

The question I have is why?

WHY?

If the people you are supposedly helping are no better off, then what is the purpose of the exercise?

It would appear that offering an subsidy to employers is an increase in corruption risk and will attract shady characters to the market sector.

It would also seem that the government is abdicating their responsibility of care to the employers.
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February 21, 2019 9:25am
- Kabull
  
  I found it interesting that the Minister admitted they now had to go and work out how to implement the policy as it was difficult!
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:13am
- KevOB
  
  Lesser productive workers because of disabilities cannot expect to earn as much. Not everyone can have executive pay rates while working as a cleaner. There is an element of misfortune in society which has to be endured. Humans are not manufactured to ISO specifications. WFF provides a minimum income level for some and there are disability allowances as well.
  
  A hidden disability is the lack of sound physical and mental health. How can govt or employers reasonably compensate for alcohol or drug abuse. Likewise, lower intellect, leading to a performance level below higher achievers. Inequality is intrinsic in society.
  
  Are we to have a regulated standard income for all?
  We already have an enviable safety net which net taxpayers provide.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:23am
  - Tall Man
    
    You left out laziness which is the predominant factor in NZ today among welfare recipients.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:32am
secondcumming

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION.

Who picks up *Guide Dog* shit ?
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February 21, 2019 9:26am
- Tall Man
  
  There is none, they are liar ardern the liar and don’t shit and if they did, like ardern the liar,…it wouldn’t stink.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:44am
dime

Today the midget with a PHD in “Social statistics in Britain 1830 – 1852″ finally gets to achieve his dream.

1) he takes us back to the 1800’s with typical leftist regressive thinking.

2) he gets to tax those kids from school who teased him even more.

its a sweet sweet day for a miserable little c*nt of a man.

Heres the kicker – even if he gets all the new taxes he could ever dream of passed into law, he will still be a 5’2” miserable little prick.
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February 21, 2019 9:28am
- MrTips
  
  Indeed, but to all those who think Winston might block a CGT (even Hosking thinks this), just remember this:
  
  Cullen was the one who went into bat for Winston when he was getting shafted over the $158K and his censure by Parliaments committee. Winston owes him one, and if he complies (along with selling all capital assets prior to date of effect), High Commissioner to London is his.
  
  Its really that awful and simple at the same time.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:40am
  - DigNap15
    
    And on the farming show, Peters said it will not hit the family farm.
    So there.
    He has already signed up for it!
    
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    February 21, 2019 9:42am
    - fernglas
      
      He said a bit more than that. He showed his profound ignorance by saying it was meant to tax people in Wellington who are buying and flicking property. Which of course is already taxable. He said it wasn’t for farmers because farms are “intergenerational” and handed on; rather like many small businesses. He’s rapidly painting himself into a corner on this
      
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      February 21, 2019 9:57am
      - Tall Man
        
        Some farms may be intergenerational but these days there is still a significant cost to buy and stock a farm and this often involves a gradual transfer of the asset.
        
        wynston the thief does not have the brain capacity to work this through anymore, if in fact he ever did.
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:22am
dime

Great to see the lead story on STUFF is impartial:

“But on Thursday morning we will see the Tax Working Group spell out its proposal for the biggest shake-up to the tax system since GST was introduced in 1986, that would take billions from the rich and give that money back quite evenly to millions of taxpayers.”

Tom Pullar-Strecker wrote the “Article”

Apparently stuffs senior business reporter. cant say ive ever heard of her. total idiot.
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February 21, 2019 9:36am
- Tall Man
  
  Got the pullar bit right…….
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:42am
- Fletch
  
  That’s what socialists always do. Tax the country to bits and then distribute the wealth to those they deem worthy, all in the name of “fairness”.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:44am
- Ross12
  
  “… that would take billions from the rich and give that money back quite evenly to millions of taxpayers.”
  Is that what Cullen/ Robertson calls “tax neutral” dime?
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:45am
- mandk
  
  CGT won’t bother the truly rich.
  
  They’ll be able to pay for accountants and tax lawyers to ensure they avoid it.
  
  And we can be sure that the odious Cullen will be amongst the avoiders.
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:52am
Maggie Pie

Watched Episode12 MAFS Australis last nite.
God it getting soo exciting. Will have to wait till Sunday now to see what Sam and Innes are going to do. Anyone else think its better than the local series?
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February 21, 2019 9:39am
- MrTips
  
  Are you serious? You watch that crap?
  
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  February 21, 2019 9:43am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    only when i’m not watching porn on my PC
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:28am
  - michael_s2
    
    If you don’t watch, how do you know it is crap?
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:36am
    - Disillusioned_Voter
      
      By listening to people living vicariously through it?
      
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      February 21, 2019 12:12pm
DigNap15

One of NZ’s housing problems is that we have booms and busts.
When we have a bust many builders leave NZ to go to Australia.
So we loose their skill and talent and their family down the line.
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February 21, 2019 9:41am
slightlyrighty

Socialism is founded in victimhood.

Socialism survives by persuading people that they are the victims of a system arrayed against them, and then offering themselves as the cure.

We are cured when everyone is equally poor.

This is the belief that drives the notion of a CGT. Those without homes are the victims of the system, and a CGT is how we punish those who have oppressed you.
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February 21, 2019 9:43am
- kowtow
  
  To be fair , govts throughout the ages have always taxed the people to the utmost they think they can get away with.
  
  They just dress up the excuses differently .
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:03am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Tax the rich so they fear you, give it to the poor so they need you”
    
    Karl Marx…abridged significantly.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:20am
mustlovedogs

No mention of Karel Sroubek and his band of merry men in the media or in Question Time. Has it all blown over do you think? Is there a quiet bombshell ticking waiting for the right moment? Or is there a gag order in place?
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February 21, 2019 9:50am
- kowtow
  
  Interesting to compare and contrast how much coverage our fearless and independent media gave to the “unruly” tourists, who are , compared to a drug trafficking , gang related , false passport utterer with very influential friends in high places , a mere irritant.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:00am
  - Longknives
    
    I would be very surprised (and disappointed) if the Nats have decided to simply ‘Let it slide’…
    
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    February 21, 2019 10:13am
    - brett68
      
      Unless they can directly link Karel Sroubek to Jacinda Ardern then they’re wasting their time and it’s best to move on to other issues.
      
      Look at the recent poll results, it’s not exactly inflicting great damage on the PM and Labour.
      
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      February 21, 2019 10:30am
      - Tall Man
        
        And why do you think that is?
        
        People don’t care if their politicians are thieves and liars or is because they aren’t being told by the one organisation they all despise yet go to for their information…..
        
        Media and social media.
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:15am
Longknives

Lefties defacing a famous WW2 statue because of ‘Rape Culture’…(Or something)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/20/kissing-sailor-statue-graffitied-metoo-death-george-mendonsa/

Isn’t 2019 a fantastic time to be alive??
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February 21, 2019 10:14am
- Lance
  
  I was listening to a (weekly) Psychology forum at the Uni of Auckland in the late 1990’s.
  Some crazy bitch got up and stated that all heterosexual sex is rape. The only good thing was one (and only one) Psychologist got up and went to town on how sick and twisted that statement was.
  I can only imagine it has gone down hill since then.
  
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  February 21, 2019 10:26am
  - Tall Man
    
    She’s probably a lour/green mp by now.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:13am
- cmm
  
  All I can hope is that 50 years into the future we have regained some sanity and can look back at this period as a mini-dark ages of book burning etc.
  
  I’ll be dead by then, but, hey.
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:07am
  - kowtow
    
    In 50 years time the statue will be removed as it will be deemed unIslamic.
    
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    February 21, 2019 12:46pm
cmm

Unbeleievable crap on RNZ a few minutes ago (10:15 or so).

Kathryn Ryan talking to some Samoan woman complaining about LBGTQ rights in Samoa and blaming it all on colonialism.

Apparently laws that were introduced by the Evil NZ colonialists in the 1930s or something are still on the books so it is all our fault.

No matter that Samoa has been self governing for 57 years (since 1962) and has ample time to change any oppressive colonial laws. Whatever laws there are in Samoa are of their own choosing.

Ryan does not call her out on this: surprise, surprise!

Activists and logic are not good bedfellows. RNZ makes it worse by giving them an unchallenged platform.
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February 21, 2019 11:05am
- Inandout
  
  cmm, Samoans had their fa’afafine boys raised as girls going back centuries.
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:47am
- kowtow
  
  White people challenging non white people is colonial oppression.
  
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  February 21, 2019 12:48pm
  - Jack5
    
    Western Samoa was a German colony from 1900 to 1914. New Zealand occupied it during World War 1, and then administered Western Samoa as a trust territory under the mandate, first, of the League of Nations, and then under the United Nations. Western Samoa became independent as Samoa in 1962.
    
    Was it ever a true colony of NZ?
    
    Regardless, it has had 57 years of independence after being administered by New Zealand for 48 years.
    
    Did Britain, Spain, France, Rumania, ever blame their problems on Roman colonialism? I think most were grateful for its civilising influence, and its legacy of roads and civic amenities.
    
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    February 21, 2019 4:46pm
KevOB

Stuff announces Tax Report:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110677332/biggest-tax-shakeup-for-a-generation

WHAT TO EXPECT

– Capital gains to be taxed through income tax.

– Family home (one per person) to be excluded from tax, within some limits

– Gains to be taxed from date tax comes into effect on assets people already own

– Tax generally to apply when people sell assets, with limited “rollover” relief if proceeds are reinvested

– Rollover relief to apply on death/inheritance

– Capital gains won’t be adjusted for inflation

– Investors to have up to 5 years to have some assets valued.

– Personal possessions, including artworks that may be held as investments, to escape net

– Capital losses could “generally” be offset against other taxable income.

– Income tax breaks worth between $420 and $595 a year to almost all taxpayers

– Low and middle-income KiwiSavers to benefit from reduction in tax on employer contributions

– Wealthier KiwiSavers to lose out from taxation of funds’ Australian and New Zealand shares
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February 21, 2019 11:05am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Could somebody please provide a link to the Tax Working Group’s 21st February Paper
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:16am
- Ruawai
  
  What is rollover relief?
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:16am
  - Tall Man
    
    What happens when cullen has finished fucking you up the arse.
    
    You gain the relief when you roll over.
    
    There will be little “relief” from these thieving bastards for anyone.
    
    Rollover relief will be in 2020 when the mass of relief rolls over NZ when ardern the liar and wynston the thief leave our government for good.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:29am
- Rich Prick
  
  Fucking hell, what will I spend that $420 a year on?
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:19am
  - Tall Man
    
    Won’t get a lot of “lawnmowing” done for that.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:30am
- Debbie
  
  So valuers will be in for a windfall as everyone gets an up to date valuation done.
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:19am
- brett68
  
  The extra taxes would kick in from 2021 at the earliest and would initially only raise a few hundred million dollars a year, but the working group forecast it would raise almost $6 billion annually within 10 years.
  
  How did they arrive at the $6 billion annually figure?
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:23am
  - Tall Man
    
    By lying?
    
    After all, ardern is a liar…
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:29am
  - MH
    
    well to every fiscal hole there is a heap of money that came out of the hole to begin with.. so..ah….umm…As you know you can never get the heap back into the hole completely..it then becomes a surplus. With this surplus we can then afford to dig for victory and create more fiscal holes excl mining and off shore gas. There, OK anymore questions?
    
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    February 21, 2019 12:06pm
    - Disillusioned_Voter
      
      your void ratio is too high. try using a compactor.
      
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      February 21, 2019 12:27pm
wreck1080

Firstly, not happy about the CGT maths. They said it would be revenue neutral.

They say they will be raising 8 billion extra a year, but only handing each taxpayer around $500… being generous and guessing we have around 3million tax payers who might earn 20k a year, that works out to a payback of 1.5 billion.

So , the government is retaining an extra 6.5 billion out of our pockets.

Just my initial impression, of course, it is a dynamic scenario, CGT only brings in small amounts at first and increases to 8 billion sometime in future…. therefore up front the govt takes in less money and catches up over time.
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February 21, 2019 11:17am
Fisiani

TAX, Tax tax tax, it’s in Labour’s DNA.
Tax on your Kiwisaver shares, tax on your family bach, tax on the investment home that you bought with your tax paid money, tax on your property.
No reduction in other tax to make up for this massive tax grab.
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February 21, 2019 11:17am
- wreck1080
  
  You’re an idiot because you didn’t read the basic stuff, like the reductions in income tax!!
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    I think you may find they are gradual and minimal.
    
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    February 21, 2019 11:24am
    - wreck1080
      
      Devil will be in the detail.
      
      This is just a bunch of proposals.
      
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      February 21, 2019 11:28am
      - DigNap15
        
        Saying that means you want one!
        
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        February 21, 2019 11:36am
Huevon

Michael Cullen and Ardern go fuck yourselves
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February 21, 2019 11:22am
- wreck1080
  
  They should at least put out their plan, let the people vote on this in the next election, and if labour win the next election they can implement.
  
  I think this will be the death of the labour party regardless.
  
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  February 21, 2019 11:30am
- holysheet
  
  preferably together. They are made for each other.
  
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  February 21, 2019 12:00pm
- cmm
  
  But please first pay the fucking tax!
  
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  February 21, 2019 12:53pm
  - holysheet
    
    I am sure if liabour could come up with some way of taxing fucking, they would have done so by now.
    
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    February 21, 2019 3:18pm
Inandout

Feel sorry for Helen as she can’t sell her rentals without being taxed, unless she has the rentals in a Maori trust.
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February 21, 2019 11:43am
- cmm
  
  I’m sure her kids will be gutted.
  
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  February 21, 2019 12:53pm
  - Tall Man
    
    She should be……
    
    Unelected but ardern the liar brings her back.
    
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    February 21, 2019 2:31pm
rightoverlabour

Only good news so far is the online poll 62 /38 against

Fucking, thieving, conniving cunts.
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February 21, 2019 11:50am
Inandout

I predict a whole industry will gorge on finding tax avoidance. This site is from the UK but shows what we can expect.

https://www.ft.com/content/bb8a6fa2-e651-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539
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February 21, 2019 12:12pm
dave_c_

Tyrrany hits Australia big time, and will probably start hitting NZ more and more over the coming periods.
This video epitomises the arrival of a clampdown on free speech and the banishment of individuals that the powers/elites would rather their populations should not be entitled to listen to and make up their own minds about what is being communicated.
https://www.youtube.comwatch?v=j0rrywXNu8s
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February 21, 2019 12:49pm
- EAD_THREE
  
  Thanks for sharing Dave.
  
  Arguably even worse is the climate of terror created and the need that people feel like they must self-censor for fear of invoking a Pavlovian response and the potential loss of career for saying the wrong thing.
  
  Goyim – treasure your “free speech” but just don’t say this, this, this, that, that, that,this, this, this, that, that, that,this, this, this, that, that, that, this, this, this, that, that or that.
  
  And by the way, here are the 10 rules under which you’re allowed to talk about Israel.
  
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  February 21, 2019 7:27pm
Johnboy

Here we go…From Norm of the South to all you old buggers! 🙂

1981 & 2005 – Two Interesting Years
Interesting Year 1981
1. Prince Charles got married.
2. Liverpool crowned soccer Champions of Europe .
3. Australia lost the Ashes.
4. The Pope died.

Interesting Year 2005
1. Prince Charles got married.
2. Liverpool crowned soccer Champions of Europe .
3. Australia lost the Ashes.
4. The Pope died.

Lesson to be learned:
The next time Charles gets married, someone should warn the Pope.

REMEMBER WHEN:

All the girls had ugly gym slips

It took five minutes for the TV to warm up

Nearly everyone’s Mum was home when the kids got home from school

Nobody owned a purebred dog

You’d reach into a muddy gutter for a penny

Your Mother wore nylons that came in two pieces

All male teachers wore ties and female teachers had their hair done every day and wore high heels

You got your windscreen cleaned, oil checked and petrol served, without asking, all for free, every time..

It was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at a real restaurant with your parents

They threatened to keep children back a year if they failed the school year. . . And they did!

When a Ford Zephyr was everyone’s dream car…
And people went steady

No one ever asked where the car keys were because they were always in the car, in the ignition, and the doors were never locked

Spinning around, getting dizzy and falling down was cause for giggles?

Playing cricket with no adults to help the children with the rules of the game

Bottles came from the corner shop without safety caps and hermetic seals because no one had yet tried to poison a perfect stranger

And with all our progress, don’t you wish, just once, you could slip back in time and savour the slower pace, and share it with the children of today?

When being sent to the headmasters office was nothing compared to the fate that awaited you at home

Basically we were in fear for our lives, but it wasn’t because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs etc. Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! But we survived because their love was greater than the threat.
As well as summers filled with bike rides, cricket, Hula Hoops, skating and visits to the pool, eating lemonade powder or liquorice sticks.

Didn’t that feel good, just to go back and say, ‘Yes, I remember that’?

I am sharing this with you today because it ended with a Double Dare to pass it on. To remember what a Double Dare is, read on, and remember that the perfect age is somewhere between old enough to know better and too young to care.

Send this on to someone who can still remember the Lone Ranger and Sgt Bilko

How Many Of These Do You Remember?

Coca Cola in bottles.

Blackjacks and bubble gums.

Home milk delivery in glass bottles with tinfoil tops

Hi-If’s & 45 RPM records.

78 RPM records!

Adding Machines.

Scalextric.

Do You Remember a Time When..
Decisions were made by going ‘Eeny-meeny-miney-moe’?

‘Race issue’ meant arguing about who ran the fastest?

Catching tadpoles could happily occupy an entire day?

It wasn’t odd to have two or three ‘Best Friends’?

The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was ‘chickenpox’?

Having a Weapon in School meant being caught with a slingshot ?

War was a card game?

Cigarette cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle?

Taking drugs meant orange – flavoured chewable aspirin?

Water balloons were the ultimate weapon?

If you can remember most or all of these, Then You Have Lived!!!!!!!
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February 21, 2019 1:14pm
- waikatogirl
  
  …Lying on a warm summer lawn watching Sky Hawkes zip past overhead.
  
  Thanks for that nostalgic walk down memory lane JB. ?
  
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  February 21, 2019 4:20pm
  - Johnboy
    
    I can remember up on a ridgetop at Hihitahi watching them diving down into the gully to the north dropping live bombs. So powerful. So wonderful. So utterly graceful like a creature at home in it’s true environment. 🙂 …..So unlike the dreadful creature that got rid of them! 🙂
    
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    February 21, 2019 4:54pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Have you ever noticed that both h1 and ardern the liar are a bit toothy?
      
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      February 21, 2019 6:25pm
  - noskire
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmHj9Jfqy3A&t=161s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp5ezLsLZbA
    
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    February 21, 2019 7:05pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Send that to h1. She may look at it when h2 leaves.
      
      She killed that capability.
      
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      February 21, 2019 7:28pm
Johnboy

Why does this shit news site Stuff produce actual news and then follow it continually with obvious anti Police propaganda. Are they in the pockets of the crims or the commos ?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/110755805/armed-man-flees-with-cash-from-bay-of-plenty-bank
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February 21, 2019 1:41pm
rangitoto

“”Empire” actor Jussie Smollett was “officially classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation” by authorities on Wednesday for allegedly “filing a false police report” in connection with his attack claims, Chicago police said.”
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February 21, 2019 2:12pm
- Johnboy
  
  They should have just shot him really. 🙂
  
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  February 21, 2019 2:15pm
- Longknives
  
  It’s hilarious watching the Left trying to justify Smollet’s false complaint and lies!
  A few handpicked comments from FB-
  
  “Trump backed Minorities into a corner and forced us to do this”
  “It reflects the culture of fear gay people and people of colour live under in America today”
  “Jussie is a victim. We are all victims of Trump!”
  etc etc
  
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  February 21, 2019 3:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Trump this one.

First Gay PM in the World gets a baby.
Ana Brnabic: Gay partner of Serbian PM gives birth
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47312826
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February 21, 2019 4:19pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  Jacinda and Clarke have some work to do to stay ahead of the curve! Maybe baby #2 could be born in a shark tank or “live” on Clarke’s TV show?
  
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  February 21, 2019 4:29pm
  - Longknives
    
    How about the ultimate Virtue Signal? ‘Transitioning’ one of their kids??
    
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    February 21, 2019 5:15pm
    - Tall Man
      
      It’s coming…..
      
      Those teeth have to go somewhere..
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:38pm
Nostradamus

When modern life gets on your nerves.

Doomsday preppers head underground as bunker economy enters mainstream society

Milton Torres is worried about the state of the world — so worried that the 42-year-old biomedical engineer has packed up his life and moved to a remote, underground bunker in the Midwest of the United States. He’s part of a growing number of Americans preparing for social, economic and environmental collapse.
…
While many clients are focused on the protective features of their bunkers, it’s also what’s on the inside that counts. “Our luxury nuclear hardened bunker full-floor unit is the most requested offering,” says Larry Hall, owner of Survival Condos. “This is a 1,840-square-feet condominium that has three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and luxury finishes that sells for $US3 million.” Shared features include an organic hydroponic and aquaculture food production system, a bar and lounge, pool and spa, digital weather station, and an indoor shooting range.

Griff would be interested in this as an upmarket alternative to his off-grid bach!
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February 21, 2019 4:34pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Nostradamus..

no matter how you spin it, the PM’s partner is a stale, pale male.

That is just so 2oth Century…

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/10756847/Icelands-Jonina-Leosdottir-I-was-the-worlds-first-lesbian-First-Lady.html
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February 21, 2019 4:35pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  I was the world’s first lesbian First Lady
  
  Heather might feel a bit put out given her years of dedicated public service when Helen was NZ’s First Man 🙂
  
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  February 21, 2019 4:46pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I imagine Heather would have been a very competent PM… but it’s hard to picture Helen playing 2nd fiddle.
    
    Some are called to Lead.. but most of us are here to serve…
    
    Can’t help but wonder what the 2 hubbys of the present & former PMs of Iceland thought when their wives shacked up…
    
    Maybe they were pleased to be out of the picture.
    
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    February 21, 2019 4:59pm
    - Johnboy
      
      It’s so fuckin dark there most of the year you’d be hard pressed to decide what you were actually rooting! 🙂
      
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      February 21, 2019 5:02pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA …

Class action filed against Westpac could affect thousands of Australian home loans – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-21/westpac-faces-class-action-over-irresponsible-lending/10830792

One of Australia’s biggest banks, Westpac, has been hit with a class action on behalf of borrowers.

Westpac has been accused of irresponsible lending in home loans it has issued since 2011 in legal action filed in the Federal Court this morning.

This is the first class action to be launched in the wake of the royal commission into misconduct in the banking sector. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Google NZ Search – Westpac Class Action

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February 21, 2019 4:54pm
Happychappy

Another baby has died in the north of non accidental injuries. Why do people have babies if they can’t look after them.
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February 21, 2019 5:02pm
- Johnboy
  
  So WINZ can? 🙂
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:04pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    But they can’t, because the baby died.
    
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    February 21, 2019 7:48pm
- DigNap15
  
  Have you noticed that there is no longer a huge out pouring of “poor we thing” “what can we do”.
  If they don’t want their off spring, then I don’t care about them either.
  The only sad thing is the mother probably has other ones, and will breed more.
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:16pm
- nasska
  
  …..”Why do people have babies if they can’t look after them”…..
  
  1) Because the bit that involves conception comes naturally & requires little effort.
  
  2) Girls have to start early if they’re going to produce 14 ill brought up brats before menopause.
  
  3) The government give houses & a reasonable income to solo mothers who can then kick back & look forward to a workfree life.
  
  4) The instructions on contraception aren’t written in Te Reo.
  
  5) Most people in Kaitaia are so fried on P that they can’t recall yesterday so what hope of remembering to use protection during sex.
  
  6) Kids growing up in houses headed by males who are not their biological fathers.
  
  In any case being born on the west coast of Northland would be a risk factor when assessing life expectancies.
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:31pm
- kowtow
  
  That , and a gangster shot dead in the NI , a pair arrested for a Dunedin murder , a murderer who was let out of prison to do it again, another guy gets out early despite instigating a drug related shooting robbery and what’s the daily theme from our cowardly media ?
  
  Trump , Trump, Trump.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/served-half-jail-term-now-parole
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:18pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    When nobody is expected to take responsibility and criminal behaviour is almost accepted in some areas the standard of behaviour falls below acceptable.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:53pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Because a “leader” on the other side of the world, and a day behind as well, is far more scary to the left wing media in NZ than a convicted rapist murderer released who was a groomsman at a twice convicted now freed murderer.
    
    Ain’t our media awesome…..
    
    “Payback..2020”.
    
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    February 21, 2019 7:24pm
KevOB

Is this for real?
New Zealand Launches Universal Basic Income Test Program For All NZ Citizens!

https://www.cnn.com-news-reports.live/jacinda-2/index_coach.php?user=119.224.121.54&camp=297&device=Desktop&brand=Bitcoin%20Wealth&ts=6&lpkey=150f50b172f7270914&uclick=1zhqj2wj

Highly speculative monetarily and politically.
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February 21, 2019 5:17pm
- KevOB
  
  MORE: this look like a fraud. An example given from a trading account shows $100 AUD/USD purchased at a rate of 1.01901 and closed out at 1.01915 for a payout of $170. Did 0.00014 x $100 produce $70? I make it 1.4 cents.
  Is this just suckerbait exploiting our media queen or have the fruit loops taken over the Palace?
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:40pm
- Nostradamus
  
  KevOB:
  
  I get a blank page when I click on your link. I’m not sure if it’s an issue with my computer, though, as it seems to work for you.
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:58pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Blank here as well.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:16pm
  - KevOB
    
    Interesting. I have tried it again and my pinned copy has just bombed out too. The url given matches the one I had.
    
    Is Jacinda being used in advertising without her knowledge?
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:32pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “Is Jacinda being used in advertising without her knowledge?”
      
      She doesn’t know what day it is.
      
      ardern is a liar
      
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      February 21, 2019 8:50pm
- DigNap15
  
  They tried it in Finland for two years with 2,000 people and they said it did not work.
  
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  February 21, 2019 7:25pm
Jack5

Manus Island detainees are pressing the Australian Government to take up New Zealand’s offer to resettle them.

Don’t sweat, they’ll be in Aussie through the NZ back door lickety spit.

Interesting that Red Radio on its web site calls the Manus Island detainees “refugees”.

Border crashing invaders as refugees?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/383060/manus-refugees-call-for-nz-resettlement
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February 21, 2019 5:34pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Jack5:
  
  Check out the 11 February 2019 episode of Q&A Australia (not the latest episode – the previous one featuring Sarah Henderson, Mark Dreyfus, Stephen Mayne, Zoya Patel and Megan Purcell).
  
  At 1:28 a “refugee on Nauru from Iran” asks a question. She asks via Skype – so obviously has access to a computer and the internet in Nauru.
  
  I wonder if next time Q&A will feature a Skype question from a Manus Island “temporary resident”.
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:47pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Does NZ want to lose its preferential relationship with Australia?
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:50pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Odakyu-sen:
    
    The Australian Government’s position has shifted many times, but my understanding is that previously – and perhaps still now – the Australian Government made acceptance of NZ’s resettlement offer conditional on legislation being passed (in Australia) that would prevent the resettled people from ever visiting Australia – even as tourists. I believe that was the position 2 or 3 months back.
    
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    February 21, 2019 5:56pm
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      How would the Australia government know who the resettled people are (unless they take biometric data)?
      
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      February 21, 2019 7:49pm
- Swifty
  
  They are country-hopping economic migrant queue jumpers, hoping to emotionally blackmail their way to success.
  
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  February 21, 2019 5:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

For nasska..

The Pope reckons we are friends or cuzzies of the Devil
“One cannot live a whole life accusing, accusing, accusing, the church,” he said. People who did, he said, were “the friends, cousins and relatives of the devil”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/20/pope-francis-decries-critics-of-church-as-friends-of-the-devil

Sounds awfully familiar…
Attack the folks who are lifting the bullshit curtain…
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February 21, 2019 5:59pm
- Swifty
  
  He’s merely doing what the church has done for centuries.
  
  Lying to people.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:01pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  There’s an interesting “more on this story” link at the end of the article: Only a third of US Catholics think priests are honest or ethical
  
  Well, actually, let’s include the whole list:
  
  – Pope defrocks ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick over abuse claims
  – Ealing Abbey abbot resigns over failure to investigate child abuse allegations
  – Only a third of US Catholics think priests are honest or ethical
  – French cardinal goes on trial accused of helping cover up abuse
  – Archbishop of Washington resigns over sexual abuse scandal
  – ‘Shocking’ sexual abuse of children by German clergy detailed in report
  – Pope summons senior bishops for summit on clerical sexual abuse
  – US cardinal accused of concealing abuse pulls out of Dublin event
  
  That list says it all really. The Catholic Church has a public perception problem.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:03pm
  - Swifty
    
    Saw some research the other day that maintains quite a large portion of Catholic clergy are actually atheists.
    
    They generally realise this later in their career but by then it’s too late, they don’t fancy losing their meal ticket so remain within the church.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:11pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t know if Catholic Church attendance has dropped much in NZ….. but the number of Children attending Catholic Schools appears to have been steady for the last 10years….(but Priests & Nuns aren’t so common in the classroom now)
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:14pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    “The Catholic Church has a public perception problem”
    
    Never heard the raping of kids described as a perception problem before, along with their centuries of assorted atrocities.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:44pm
- Swifty
  
  *to further their own ends.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:08pm
- nasska
  
  …..”The Pope reckons we are friends or cuzzies of the Devil”…..
  
  Those who believe in Satan are no less unhinged than those who believe in Skydaddy.
  
  Same head…..different voices.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:15pm
Universal Smith

Word around town is that Simon is very excited about the tax suggestions and expects to rocket ahead in the polls to 6.3%

At least his career will end on a high. 🙂
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February 21, 2019 6:09pm
- Tall Man
  
  Whereas you never had one did you?
  
  What a bitter little man you are.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:12pm
  - Universal Smith
    
    You 5%er’s crack me up. There is as much chance of the fictional Jesus returning as there is of Simon being PM.
    
    If you want a viable opposition then you should get with the huge majority of National voters and push to get rid of him. And Judith.
    
    You are going to lose. That makes you a loser.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:16pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Then my advice to you, free of charge so that’s a big saving for you, is to start attending a church near you.
      
      Fictional or not…jesus may be coming for you but if not, Simon is…
      
      Now, he may not be leader next year, I don’t care either way but I would vote for a dead man long before I would ever vote for ardern the liar or wynston the thief and I can assure, I am not alone.
      
      If you are an intern for the labour party, how do you justify supporting a barefaced liar and a calculating media whore who intends to use our country as a stepping stone for her ambitions elsewhere.
      
      Shame on you and hey
      
      “Payback…2020”.
      
      🙂
      
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      February 21, 2019 6:59pm
      - Universal Smith
        
        Mouse Parts, I do not support any of the people or parties you talked about.
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:07pm
      - Tall Man
        
        “Mouse parts”.
        
        I’ve never heard that before…awesome.
        
        If you are an intern, you need to ask for a pay rise as that is really a good one..
        
        Oops…silly me, labour don’t pay their interns do they?
        
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        February 21, 2019 7:18pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Labour troll, that’s all.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:28pm
    - Swifty
      
      It’s RC/Kea et al, wearing a new hat.
      
      Hi there RC.
      
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      February 21, 2019 6:30pm
      - KevOB
        
        Why do they change their names?
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:39pm
Captain Mainwaring

Queensland fruit fly found at Northcote Point.
Morrissey Breen needs to keep his pets under control.
Either that or pull the wings off them like he did when he was a kid.
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February 21, 2019 6:14pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Captain Mainwaring:
  
  I’ve previously shared Chez Breen (discovered through a random Google search) with Kiwiblog readers:
  
  Chez Breen is Auckland’s premier adult swingers club – a stylish, sensual & erotic lounge bar venue for entertaining sophisticated adults.
  
  At the time Morrissey said:
  
  Ha ha ha! Good one, ‘damus. Actually, it’s not too far off the mark.
  
  I’m not quite sure which part isn’t accurate!
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:31pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”a stylish, sensual & erotic lounge bar venue for entertaining sophisticated adults”…..
    
    This tends to confirm my suspicions that in real life he plays a honky-tonk piano in the bar of a gay brothel. 🙂
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:44pm
    - Swifty
      
      *badly
      
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      February 21, 2019 6:50pm
    - Tall Man
      
      With his cheeks firmly pressed to the stool…or not…
      
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      February 21, 2019 7:15pm
      - starboard
        
        Hi, Im Morrissey. May I push in your stool ?
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:16pm
      - stigie
        
        With pleasure !~
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:42pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Starboard:
        
        Do you reckon that Mikenmild (with his Quarry Inn), Morrissey (with Chez Breen) and Scott Chris (with his extensive “connections” – probably not A-listers though) would make a formidable team?
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:55pm
lifesgood

Disgusting comments from Peter McIlwain on Nat Radio this morning. There was a news item about the American students who were abused for wearing MAGA hats. by a repulsive native indian and some other demented clowns. The boys’ parents are suing some news media for slander. Peter McIlwain commented that the boy was aggressive, arrogant and he hopes he gets nothing because he deserves nothing and his behaviour was disgraceful (I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist). It is shocking, that an announcer on our national radio station can make up shit like this and spread it around. It has been proven conclusively that the boys behaved honourably and were the victims in an aggressive attack by left wing agitators who took exception to their hats. The boy in question stood still without a hint of aggression but clearly utterly bemused by the situation and then left as soon as he had the opportunity. I might need to report this to the broadcasting authority.
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February 21, 2019 6:27pm
- Universal Smith
  
  They have banned the wearing of the American flag at some schools. It’s a symbol of hate apparently.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:36pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Link or as usual, you are full of shit.
    
    “Payback…2020”.
    
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    February 21, 2019 7:08pm
    - Universal Smith
      
      Do your own research. This is not your special needs class kid.
      
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      February 21, 2019 7:10pm
      - Tall Man
        
        And you can’t
        
        you c.nt….
        
        Bye bye.
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:31pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Nick Sandmann is the young guys name. His Attorney is L Lin Wood. He’s a specialist in defamation actions
  Background here
  http://www.linwoodlaw.com/attorney/l-lin-wood/
  They’ve started the process of suing now. Starting with Wapo for $250 million. There’s another 20-30 other parties they’re going after too. Some really dumb actors like Jim Carey and Alyssa Milano who were given a chance to retract but refused.
  It’s going to be epic. Wood knows what he’s doing.
  If you’ve got a link to McIlwains comments I’ll send it to Wood ?
  I see Justice Thomas (Anita Hill!!!!) has stated he thinks the Sullivan decision should be reviewed too.
  
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  February 21, 2019 6:49pm
  - lifesgood
    
    I’m not sure how to get a link. It was on the National Programme All Night show sometime between 5.30am and 6 am this morning.
    
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    February 21, 2019 6:59pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Neither am I…
      I went searching, but I don’t think Nat Radio holds back clips of the All-Nighter.
      
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      February 21, 2019 7:34pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Thanks for trying, Maggie. I’m going to put in a complaint to the broadcasting authority on the grounds that it was not factual (one of the categories offered) I am sure they keep tapes of their programmes for at least a while so they should be able to find the snippet for confirmation. I sat there aghast when I heard McIlwaine make this outrageous comment.
        
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        February 21, 2019 8:42pm
- wiseowl
  
  If that’s what McIlain said it is a lie.
  It would be good to pass it on to the lawyer suing many parties and let him feel the heat.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:16pm
nasska

It’s hard to discern whether this an instance of normal arrogance by a road louse or just insanity:

…..”A cyclist has been caught riding dangerously on Auckland’s Northern Motorway during peak hour traffic.”……

https://www.nzherald.co.nz//nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12205714&ref=clavis

Not for the special lice the restraint of the road code, common-sense nor courtesy. Situation normal.
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February 21, 2019 7:27pm
- Tall Man
  
  Arrogance born out of our current government where bike trumps “every body”…..
  
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  February 21, 2019 7:54pm
Tall Man

“predjudice is commonplace”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12205533

So is abuse by tenants and unfortunately they are not always white…
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February 21, 2019 7:52pm
Captain Mainwaring

Watched The Project tonight.
Some lefty woman hurled her venom at Bridges about the CGT thing and he dealt with it as best he could.
Then Mark Richardson came on and he kicked her into touch, big time.
That man needs to be a NationaL MP, starting with Botany 2020.
But the sad thing is that he’s probably too smart to put up with all the PC crap, the endless meetings and the time away from home, not to mention the earnings cut from where he is now.
We don’t have the best people in Parliament.
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February 21, 2019 8:09pm
- Tall Man
  
  We do not.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:30pm
- Universal Smith
  
  “We don’t have the best people in Parliament.”
  
  100% agree. Those seeking power rarely do so in the interests of advancing some altruistic higher good.
  
  Simon will be beaten like a red headed step child. I want you to work towards dealing with that Capt.
  
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  February 21, 2019 8:36pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Sorry intern, your issues don’t concern me.
    
    “Payback…2020”
    
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    February 21, 2019 8:44pm
Monique Watson

I’ve known a number of pollies in my time. Back to Lange. All the ones I’ve met even the delusioned far left enter politics “to make a difference”.

Be wary of the ones who live in ivory towers and shit marshmallow pillows.
They are arrogant in person. Across the spectrum. Eg, Sir John isn’t but Tolley is.
Oh I could write a list of the good the bad and the ugly but I’m too tired. And there’s a gazillion comments to catch up on, Thanks s lot KBer’s.

No new taxes!
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February 21, 2019 9:01pm
Viking2

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/110756985/why-jordan-peterson-is-a-sign-of-our-very-scary-times
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  Great article. I especially like how it tells you what to think.
  
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