General Debate 5 January 2019

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dirty harry

Definitely not our PM.
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January 5, 2019 8:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Unfortunately she is, love her or loathe her; I feel more loathing on KB for her, aside from the Fraser House reps.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:08am
  - igm
    
    There is a stronger adjective than loath, and that is not strong enough for her, or her COL.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:14am
    - Dave Mann
      
      While I agree with your sentiment, I have to point out that the correct spelling is ‘loathe’ and it’s not an adjective. It’s a noun.
      
      Is English your first language and if so, are you a fairly recent product of the NZ ‘education’ system?
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:46am
      - James Stephenson
        
        No, it’s a verb. You know, a “doing word”.
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:43am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Loathe is a verb.
        
        Noun forms of the word:
        Loather
        Loathing (as a verbal substantive)
        Loathsomeness
        
        Adjectival form:
        loathsome
        
        Adverbial forms:
        loathly, loathsomely
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:54am
      - Dave Mann
        
        My God, James and Maggy of course you’re right! I know it’s a verb…. but I just wrote the wrong word!
        
        I’m a compete idiot and I owe igm an apology for being such a smarty pants!
        
        Sorry! ???
        
        p.s. Eats huge portion of humble pie for lunch…
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:58am
      - Jack5
        
        However, …
        
        In H.W. Fowler’s original version of his famous A Dictionary of Modern English Usage, published in 1923, the spelling “loth” rather than “loath” is recommended in the non-verb .
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:48pm
      - Kiwi Dave
        
        igm is, in general fact, correct in saying that ‘loath’ is an adjective, as in this construction, I am loath to buy shares at this time, but Paulus was obviously using a verb and the adjectival meaning is inappropriate in the specific context. /pedant
        
        Maggie, if we can have ‘loather’, a form new to me, perhaps we also need ‘loathee’.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:17pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @kiwi Dave…
        The online Oxford living Dictionary provides some sentence examples for loather
        
        https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/loather
        
        loathee rolls off the tongue rather well….perhaps you could patent it.
        
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        January 5, 2019 3:05pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Disgraceful stuff, Dave.
        
        Especially that post of 11.58am.
        
        Apologising is so NOT the Kiwiblog way.
        
        You have to go ‘front foot’ with your response:
        
        1. Ridicule your accuser
        2. Query your accuser’s credentials by linking us to 476461 or so previous Kiwiblog posts made by your accuser that were grammatically suspect
        3. Declare yourself too busy to bother yourself with trivial details like minor verb/noun differentiations.
        4. Divert your accuser’s attention by introducing hard-to-kill accusations about him/her – that goat molestation rumour from 2009, e.g..
        
        Up and at ’em, boy!
        
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        January 6, 2019 10:14am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Absolutely right Paulus. We may despise her politics and the cult of personality around her, but Jacinda Ardern is our legitimate PM under MMP, just as Trump is the legitimately elected President of the USA.
    
    That however doesn’t stop us scrutinising her policies and actions, and criticising those with which we disagree, or opposing those that are plain wrong.
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:49pm
    - igm
      
      Difference being, Trump was elected, whereas this harridan was “Selected” by a toxic gnome out of spite and envy!
      
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      January 5, 2019 1:38pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Nope; Labour did what it had to do to form a government, and National dodged a bullet. I’d rather we were in opposition for a term, than have to run everything past Peters.
        
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        January 5, 2019 3:51pm
    - Liberty
      
      Keeping Stock you may be technically correct.
      But the fact remains Dear Leader is only appointed.
      Which does not give her a true mandate.
      But there is nothing to stop Dear Leader inflicting
      her socialist agenda. Until the end of her dubious reign.
      
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      January 5, 2019 7:13pm
- stephieboy
  
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  dirty harry, who cares other than 0.0001% of the voting public?
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:14am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The remaining 48% of voters who feel they are not getting representation by the current clusterfuck that has the the label of ‘government’
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:17am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      49.64% of voters not represented by this f-up of a ‘government’ to be precise
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:37am
- oldpark
  
  dirty harry.Not forgetting the other clown Peters.
  Not our deputy PM.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:44am
igm

My sympathy lies with this poor bugger. We had one particular road paddock with a nicely trimmed macrocarpa hedge and a decent size ditch in front. Not only did we get all types of takeaway rubbish dumped there, along with filthy napkins, but some dirty mongrels also climbed the 7-wire fence and shit behind the hedge. Got pissed off so ran a fine wire off a high powered electric unit just below the top wire. We were sitting outside one afternoon when our huntaway took off into the paddock . . . some dirty bastard had climbed the fence, and could not get out for fear of further shocks. Obviously a towny, he shit himself when he saw our dog (just a friendly old working boy) taking more shocks, screaming obscenities at me whilst clearing out as I approached on my quad. Took his registration number and intend to follow up further.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109718713/farmer-padlocks-gate-to-swimming-hole-after-nappies-found-on-riverbank
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January 5, 2019 8:03am
- tf78
  
  Shame he didn’t pee on your fence, that would have been entertaining.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:54am
  - igm
    
    At school we once offered a smart arse cigarettes to piss on the fence . . . he did, and did he perform.
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:03pm
    - greybeard
      
      Yeah, right.
      
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      January 5, 2019 6:35pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    Nope, as Ren and Stimpy warned “Don’t pee on the electric fence” .. even townie kids learned it.
    
    ?
    
    PS igm – well done that dog, good boy.
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:55pm
    - mark15
      
      ‘Whizz’
      
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      January 5, 2019 7:28pm
- RRM
  
  Our local swimming hole in Featherston has similar issues.
  
  It’s at the end of a public road so access rights aren’t the issue, but the location has been added to one of the main freedom camping websites as it is HEAVING with gypsies all summer long and there is frequently rubbish everywhere.
  
  There’s a modern long drop, but why wait your turn for that when you can just shit on the grass, right? And you drove to town for beers, but why would you drive the empties back to town when you could just throw them in the trees, right?
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:46am
- Sacha
  
  BAN DISPOSABLE NAPPIES!
  They wouldn’t get left behind if it meant buying expensive cloth replacements.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:50pm
  - igm
    
    No the horrible harridan will only ban plastic bags, not touch something the scum lazy leeches that support her. Hell, could you imagine a breed for feeder washing napkins . . . they can’t even make a bed or cook a meal!
    
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    January 6, 2019 7:40am
Chuck Bird

Incredible tennis by 18 year old Bianca Andreescu who beat Venus Willaims last night.
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January 5, 2019 8:04am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Morning Chuckles, you mentioned on another blog the other day you had been called some very hurtful words because you voted for Winston.
  Just for clarification, you are not an (insert chosen expletive) because you voted for Winston, you voted for him because you’re a (you know what to do here)
  You got things around the wrong way, in fact I’d still be calling you a (again, here) regardless because you simply are a (last time, just for fun)
  Thanks.
  
  [DPF: Trolling and abusive. That is Strike 5 and one month off]
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:23am
  - holysheet
    
    Can I fill in the blanks, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:47am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Holysheet:
      
      Chuck Bird said this to Awww C-mon last year:
      
      I suggest you come up to me at the next AGM and introduce yourself and call me a cocksucker.
      
      In the interest of accuracy, Awww C-mon had said: “Fuck your a name dropping, big noting cock sucker”, so it was a two-way conversation.
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:58am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Thanks for the lol.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:19am
- mark15
  
  Because racism
  
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  January 5, 2019 7:29pm
duggledog

TV3 v. TVNZ; The Project v. Seven Sharp:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12185883

It seems The Project is getting more viewers while Seven Sharp is losing them. Ditto The AM Show v. Breakfast.

I’d say viewers aren’t leaving TVNZ’s offerings for TV3’s; rather they are switching off altogether as Breakfast and Seven Sharp are unbelievably shit. You don’t learn anything and to make it worse they are trying to be funny.
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January 5, 2019 8:05am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I don’t watch any of it for, as you say, they are trying to be funny and my ‘mate’ which they most certainly are not.
  
  Perhaps if they tried to be relevant rather than ‘funny’ their audience numbers might improve.
  
  Relevant or comedy try hards, it is still shit and I would still not watch it.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:13am
  - calendar girl
    
    It’s hard to believe that – in 2019 – we ‘taxpayers‘ are still required by law to pay for the kind of politicised dross served up by Television New Zealand.
    
    What is the justification for Government still having any involvement in commercial broadcasting? How can New Zealanders ever free themselves of the suspicion / belief that state-owned-and-controlled broadcasting services are or can be politically-biased, or at least significantly influenced?
    
    When will the National Party’s leadership resolve to free New Zealanders from this anachronism when it next holds the reins of Government? (Even though its actions then would already be several decades late.)
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:01am
- stephieboy
  
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  duggledog, consider this type of alternative media option,
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUDbvKYbWk
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:21am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Not funny – just childish kids jokes and riddles. IQ lower than room temperature.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:21am
- GazzaW
  
  Both channels are shit right across the board – content, ad frequency, presenters, news standard and political bias. Sky, for all its faults provides excellent news services, good doco channels, sport, movies and entertainment. The advent of Netflix, Prime Video et al just sweetens the pill. The only chink in the armour is domestic news but I think that we tend to accumulate local news as it happens these days either online or via our phones and the need for a daily ‘6pm news’ has long gone particularly when laced with an unhealthy political bias.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:24am
  - fernglas
    
    The BBC does the UK and world news, sport and weather in 20 minutes, and the London news and current affairs in another 20, admittedly without ads. We have to 90 minutes of overpaid wallies trying to find something interesting in this feeble little country to talk about to justify their jobs. It is shallow and quite pathetic.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:34am
  - kowtow
    
    TV1 “news” , directly blamed Trump for the sudden crash in Apple stock.
    
    Bias?
    
    They really are shit .
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:44am
    - marcw
      
      Also in Stuffed today (on repeat):
      
      Fact-checking Trump’s Cabinet session video
      
      US president Donald Trump’s 90-minute Cabinet session was a fact-checking nightmare, with sentence after sentence false or misleading.
      
      and a comment in the Compost about emergency care:
      
      katygirl
      Your right and yet they are still called the greatest country in the world, appalling healthcare system, allowed to purchase machine guns, mass shootings weekly occurrence, mentally deranged President supported blindly by 40% of the population….I’m sticking with NZ thanks…I thank my lucky stars everyday [sic]
      
      Looks like we won’t be getting that concession on aluminum tax any-day soon.
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:17am
      - SGA
        
        Looks like we won’t be getting that concession on aluminum tax any-day soon.
        
        Why would Trump expect NZ’s media to be reporting and commenting on him any differently than his own nation’s media? He ‘s not that stupid or petty, is he?
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:51am
    - stephieboy
      
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      kowtow, according to this TV one report that no such thing. A balanced news item that understandably links it to the trade war between t China and the US that has had understandable repercussions without mentioning once the prime instigator, the US President,
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/apple-stocks-plummet-more-than-110-billion-after-iphone-sales-slip-in-china?variant=tb_v_1
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:57am
      - GazzaW
        
        Let’s see how much coverage TV One gives to the 747 points gain on the Dow overnight and that the main reason according to US analysts is that there are too many positives in the economy to ignore.
        
        I look forward to your feedback in the morning steffie.
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:33am
      - kowtow
        
        TVNZ 1 News , 6 pm broadcast read by Anna Burns Francis , 4 Dec 2019 , specifically blamed Trump personally.
        
        Now fuck off.
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:50am
      - kloyd0306
        
        China? The currency manipulators? If China understood what a level playing field is, no trade war would be necessary but you can’t help yourself to blame Trump, who is sticking up for American businesses.
        
        ….and this escaped you – 312,00 new jobs created in December – double the estimate (by the leftist-press).
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:07am
- Wangas Feral
  
  Without a TV all I know is that I am subjected to neither channel’s inanity.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:49am
  - jcuk
    
    Me too 🙂 🙂 🙂
    
    ps and I’m a pensioner 🙂
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:28pm
- The Heat
  
  Who watches broadcast news TV?
  
  Pensioners.
  
  #internetz
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:10am
  - GazzaW
    
    I doubt it would be ‘pensioners’ Heat. This particular ‘pensioner’ has worked with computers since 1974. There seems to be much misapprehension that we are all computer illiterates. I would venture to say that TV News is watched largely by working people sitting in the lounge after arriving home from work with a hastily prepared dinner on their laps.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:40am
    - Stamper
      
      Hi Gazza – I’m a Club Member; started on punch cards, DOS, and an IBM 360 in 1970 in Toronto. I was living the dream !!
      
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      January 5, 2019 6:11pm
      - GazzaW
        
        Onyer Stamper. The computer-illiteracy underbelly these days sits fair and square in the 80s+ age bracket and with those that just can’t be bothered. All of my peers in their 70s are totally savvy and comfortable with IT’s role in their daily lives. Gaming would be the exception where there is just zero interest. They have the dosh too to acquire the latest gear when they need it and the time to apply it.
        
        My mother started using the Hollerith punch card system in the 1940s in the UK. Hollerith I believe merged with IBM in the early days.
        
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        January 5, 2019 6:41pm
  - kowtow
    
    Know Your Enemy.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:51am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  My father-in-law watches Breakfast as mother-in-law has it on. FIL gets really boiled up watching it. I keep telling him give up its not good for his wellbeing.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:11am
  - GazzaW
    
    Breakfast TV really is lowest common denominator garbage.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:42am
    - 4077th
      
      Hardly surprising when it’s lead by a soy boy man child and an ageing airhead. It’s just exhausting too watch. At least 3 morning news has Mark to keep the playing field relatively level. One news is a satellite office of Labour and the Greens.
      
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      January 5, 2019 6:45pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I haven’t watched breakfast TV since Paul Henry left two years ago. I start the day on a far more positive note, which little if any pent-up anger due to the content.
    
    I suggest others consider doing likewise.
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:53pm
- infused
  
  Confirm both are shit. The project is God aweful
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:21am
- MCos
  
  Life’s pretty grim when it comes down to arguing the pros and cons of gossip TV.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:41am
- Fletch
  
  I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – we must be the only country in the world who doesn’t have breakfast and midday news over the new year period owing to the fact that all the reporters are on holiday. I just can’t believe this. I am sure there’d be up-and-coming reporters who would kill to read the midday news. I reckon it is that the regulars are afraid they’d be too good and would be out of a job.
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:43am
- Thought Criminal
  
  People have more choice now. The days of being forced to consume what is served to you on a couple of channels are over.
  
  They’re probably watching Netflix.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:07am
  - RRM
    
    Watching lefty American comics, and “documentaries” about capitalism and global warming on Netflix…
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:53am
    - GazzaW
      
      …..and some top British drama.
      
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      January 5, 2019 6:48pm
- david
  
  Probably due to that Moa person. How they tolerate the incestuous nature of the mutual admiration society (I understand that the
  Producer of 7 Sharp has a relationship with that unfunny comedienne) that is more farce than fact.
  
  I for one change channels when she appears if H Barry hasn’t already pissed me off.
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:40pm
  - MickMac
    
    Hilary
    another “Mother of the nation” sort.
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:15pm
- greybeard
  
  What gets me is that so many of the women on TV and radio have such nasal voices: Ter Allen on TV3 looks great ( as they should for popular TV ) but she sounds as if she has a peg on her nose !.
  And there is someone on NewstalkZB who reads the weather or traffic or whatever who sounds like she has a perpetual cold.
  Why ?
  
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  January 5, 2019 6:41pm
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Dave Dobbyn’s immortal” Welcome home” which tells us a lot about who we are as a nation especially in these times. Also, a great way to get into the rhythm and swing of the New Year, in a positive, enlightened and optimistic mood!

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQlVmvXAGLI

Lyrics

Tonight I am feeling for you
Under the state of a strange land
You have sacrificed much to be here
There but for grace as I offer my hand
Welcome home, I bid you welcome, I bid you welcome
Welcome home from the bottom of my heart
Out here on the edge
The empire is fading by the day
And the world is so weary in war
Maybe we’ll find that new way
So welcome home, see I made a space for you now
Welcome home from the bottom of our heart
Welcome home from the bottom of our hearts
Keep it coming now keep it coming now
You’ll find most of us here with our hearts wide open
Keep it coming now keep on coming now
Keep it coming now keep on coming now
There’s a woman with her hands trembling
And she sings with a mountain’s memory
There’s a cloud the full length of these isles
Just playing chase with the sun
And it’s black and it’s white and it’s wild
All the colours are one
So welcome home, I bid you welcome, I bid you welcome
Welcome home from the bottom of our hearts
Welcome home, see I made a space for you now
Welcome home from the bottom of our hearts
From the bottom of our hearts
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January 5, 2019 8:11am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Good morning!
  
  Now kindly fuck off.
  
  Thank you for your understanding.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:15am
  - stephieboy
    
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XNmy8GcBE
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:17am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      As before, without the good morning given as a common courtesy
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:19am
    - pentwig
      
      oh goodie
      stoopidthing is giving us some of its childish humour
      missing your little friends from st lukes?
      sigh
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:31am
- toby1845
  
  I was a member of the NZDF delegation that brought the Unknown Warrior back to NZ in the early 2000s. David Dobbyn was brought along at Helen Clark’s behest, to sing that God-awful song a couple of times. He even screeched it into the RNZAF 757’s PA system while we were preparing for landing.
  
  He earned the absolute contempt and loathing of every NZDF per on the deployment. I hated him then, and still do.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:25am
  - adamsmith1922
    
    Dobbyn only sings dirges, My pet hate is his Loyal,but Welcome Home is almost as bad.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:36am
    - adamsmith1922
      
      Plus his god awful dirge he sang at dedication of NZ War Memorial in London,at which Helen Clark gave a rather weird speech as well
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:45am
      - sooty
        
        Has Labour been mowing lawns for like ages!
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:06pm
      - Paulus
        
        Don’t panic Helen will be off to London shortly where she will be NZ Ambassador as it is from London she can help Ardern get closer to the UN than from New Zealand.
        Sorry Gerry but feminine needs first.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:35pm
  - RF
    
    toby1845..
    
    Plus after the Queen Street riots in December 1984. Auckland Police who attended still hold Dobbyn responsible for the drunken crowd turning on them.
    
    He is hated intensely for his inflammatory comments.
    
    Wanker…..
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:04am
  - stephieboy
    
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    toby1845, impossible to verify other than your off the cuff snide goss.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:03am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Toby’s comments look like an eyewitness account.
      Are you calling him a liar?
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:15am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed,” look like” cf factually, actually said…
        
        Appears all BS to me except maybe among them one or two at most.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:24pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Maggy’s link seems to confirm Toby’s eyewitness account.
        You don’t know. You’re just making shit up – again.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:29pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Maggy’s link seems to confirm Toby’s eyewitness account.
        You don’t know. You’re just making shit up – again.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:30pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Dave Dobbyn, DD Smash’s lead singer, then allegedly told the crowd, ‘I wish those riot squad guys would stop wanking and put their little batons away.’
      
      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/queen-street-riots-1984
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:01pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , from your link,” Dave Dobbyn, DD Smash’s lead singer, then allegedly told the crowd,…”
        
        Note, “allegedly” !
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        The words are on tape.
        
        The NZ History site is just trying to avoid a legal hassle.
        
        but the singer. Dave Dobbyn uttered a sentence he will regret for the rest of his life: “I wish those riot squad guys would stop wanking and put their little batons away.”
        
        The words were captured on a tape recording being made by Ron Kane, an amiable American obsessed with New Zealand music.
        https://www.audioculture.co.nz/scenes/riot-going-on
        
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        January 5, 2019 4:47pm
    - RRM
      
      Even if he’s a liar, at least he’s not a pedo.
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:05pm
      - toby1845
        
        I can assure everyone that i am neither a liar nor a pedo.
        
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        January 5, 2019 2:31pm
    - toby1845
      
      Frankly, stephie, I couldn’t care less what you think. I was there, and you weren’t.
      
      I recall that Dobbyn’s universal unpopularity was such that it came to the attention of some of a friend of mine who had taken part in the ceremonies to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Monte Cassino in 1994. Dave Armstrong, the leftie who now writes a weekly rant for the DimPost, was on that trip. He also managed to make himself seriously unpopular on that trip, for his constant wingeing about having to travel by Hercules and generally arrogant manner.
      
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      January 5, 2019 2:28pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Cite? That sounds like you’ve made it all up.
        
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        January 5, 2019 2:34pm
- GazzaW
  
  Fuck off steffie and take Dobbyn with you.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:25am
- Huevon
  
  I hear Dave is back on the wagon these days. His best songs came from when he was a pisshead, not that God awful Welcome Home shit. Hopefully we’ll start seeing some good material again.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:33am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    His best songs
    
    Best?
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:05am
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      Well one of his best in terms of sales and audience numbers.
      
      But it seems not with a slinking slithering minority of KBs rabid alt-righters!
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:11am
  - Scott
    
    Well heuvon I hope Dave Dobbyn has conquered his alcohol demons and is sober. He became a Christian I think, so good for him.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:30am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Scott.
      Dobyn was born & raised Catholic, and went to Sacred Heart College in Glen Innes, Auckland. As with most young people, their faith does not mean much to them and they drop it – but later often return to it when they mature. Similar to the Finn Bros. who also attended SHC.
      
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      January 5, 2019 11:10am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Indeed Don, and I have heard Dobbyn talk about his return to the Christian faith, which was quite dramatic. I have no reason to believe that he was being insincere.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:55pm
    - Nermal
      
      Alcoholism is an illness, not a demon. It’s treatable, not through exorcism, but through the 12 Step programme (From personal experience. Mine has been in remission for 26 years)
      
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      January 5, 2019 3:39pm
- kiwitoffee
  
  Few would object to NZ hosting a small number (calculated say on a per capita host country population basis) providing 1) they are genuine refugees and 2) they undertake to respect NZ’s Judeo-Christian heritage, our liberal, democratic political system, and the rule of law (before all these things disappear.)
  
  On this basis, naturally, we would have no Muslim immigrants but plenty of others.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:35am
  - GazzaW
    
    We have a number of Iraqi Christian families in our area who moved here during the days of Saddam. They are really good people who have fitted in well and their kids and in some cases grandkids have grown up as Kiwis. Those that I have spoken with are more than happy to sponsor more Iraqi Christians and act as guarantors but it cuts no ice with ‘the powers that be’.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:48am
    - Wangas Feral
      
      Iraqi Christians integrate. Muslims don’t. The Assyrian christians don’t make any demands that the host culture change to accommodate their beliefs.
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:58am
    - kiwitoffee
      
      Thanks for that example.
      No surprises there.
      Dare one say the key word is ‘Christian’?
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:06pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      We went to my wife’s former church on Christmas Eve, and during the service the pastor interviewed a refugee who the church had sponsored; one of three such families. They were Christians, living not so far from Mosul, an ISIS stronghold. They were given an ultimatum to convert to Islam or be killed, so they fled to a refugee camp in Lebanon from which they were eventually placed in New Zealand.
      
      The wife is a doctor, her husband is a builder, and they have three teenage boys. Their focus since arriving in New Zealand midway through 2018 has been to learn English, then to find jobs. They will in time become a great asset for New Zealand.
      
      One of the other families sponsored by the church is not a Christian family, but the members of the church have accepted them unconditionally nonetheless.
      
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      January 5, 2019 1:01pm
      - Jack5
        
        Middle East Christians face double discrimination in coming to the West as refugees, as NZ journalist Pat McCarthy, who is familiar with the Middle East, reports in the link below.
        
        The United Nations migrant pact that Judas Peters signed New Zealand up with, will make the discrimination worse. We don’t be able to choose who we allow into the country as refugees.
        
        https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2017/03/20/iraqs-christian-refugees-face-double-discrimination/
        
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        January 5, 2019 2:48pm
    - Nermal
      
      Quite a few Lebanese Christians came to NZ a century or so ago, and integrated. No hastles, no problems.
      
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      January 5, 2019 3:44pm
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    they undertake to respect NZ’s Judeo-Christian heritage
    
    What the hell does the term “Judeo-Christian” mean? It is an oxymoron if ever there was one❗ It is like saying Evil-Good, Dry-Wet, Night-Day etc.
    
    Christianity was formed in direct opposition to Judaism and all its machinations. Christians despised and persecuted Jews for the vast majority of the last 2,000 years. and it is only when Christianity started going astray over the past 100 year, did this term start coming into practice from Bible Belt America & their Schofeld Bible.
    
    If you want a lesson in history on the invention of the term, read the below exchange from the Spectator:
    
    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/01/doug-vs-penny_55.html?m=1
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:02am
    - EAD_THREE
      
      A great example of the contrast between “Judeo” & “Christian”
      
      The British Daily Telegraph, only until very recently the upstanding moral conscience of Christian Middle England (until Jewish media boss Jason Seiken “modernised it”) now run articles by people called Silverman stating that “married men should give their wives cheat passes for Christmas”
      
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/men-should-give-wives-permission-infidelity-christmas/
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:20am
      - Cobolt24
        
        Oy Vey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Xf0V3uIIQ
        
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        January 5, 2019 5:59pm
    - Matt Long
      
      A Jew named Jesus, fulfilling Jewish prophecy, recorded in a book written almost entirely by Jews, founded a new Jewish sect, do you even know what Christian means?
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:09am
      - EAD_THREE
        
        A half truth but otherwise Wrong wrong wrong
        
        Modern Judaism is a direct descendant of Phariseeism which is everything Jesus fought against.
        
        My Priest once made the point that pretty well everyone in the New Testament was ethnically Jewish, but whenever you see the word “Jews” in the bible they mean the Pharisees and their followers. The bad guys. The enemies of Jesus – the Money Changers he threw out of the Temple
        
        On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ But you have made it ‘a den of robbers
        
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        January 5, 2019 3:56pm
    - kiwitoffee
      
      It’s not very complicated.
      Christianity grew out of Judaism.
      Jesus was a Jew.
      The first Christians were Jews.
      Our love and respect for the rule of law has its origins in the laws set out in the First (Jewish) Testament.
      And we were colonised by Christians.
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:09pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Our love and respect for the rule of law has its origins in the laws set out in the First (Jewish) Testament.
        
        There has been some serious horseshit written by various commentators but this takes the cake.
        
        The preeminence of laws originates from the ancient Greeks (Plato & Aristotle), but, more than anything it almost entirely a British concept and philosophy.
        
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        January 5, 2019 4:07pm
    - Lance
      
      EAD_x really is ignorant
      
      Fact free drivel, so messed up it’s actually kind of embarrassing
      
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      January 5, 2019 1:06pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Lance – I really feel for you buddy. Coming here and having your a** handed to you time and time again.
        
        You alone make Jacksie seem like a Rhodes Scholar❗
        
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        January 5, 2019 4:09pm
    - Jack5
      
      As ❗?Kearealityczech❗ lies in the Kiwiblog isolation bin for her latest outburst, 卐EADolf continues their hatred campaign against Jews.
      
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      January 5, 2019 2:51pm
  - Scott
    
    Yes I met a perfectly nice girl from Iraq at Wellington Airport a few years ago. She was cheerfully serving coffee. Her and her family are Christians. I don’t expect them to appear in our local newspapers linked to any terrorism incidents.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:32am
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      Scott, impossible for a nice young Muslim cheerfully serving the same?
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:16am
      - GazzaW
        
        You should know given that you would speak with a lot of them at the mall steffie.
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:50am
      - Swifty
        
        He doesn’t speak with them, he just looks. And covets.
        
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        January 5, 2019 2:02pm
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    kiwitoffee, an NZ Judeo Heritage etc with a rabid alt right twist?
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:14am
    - RRM
      
      Whatevs.
      
      Pedoboy.
      
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      January 5, 2019 11:56am
    - kiwitoffee
      
      I hope not.
      I’m just trying to think it through carefully and reflect on our history.
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Try again and know your history,
        
        The classical world >>>>> Renaissance>>>> Enlightenment>>>> Industrial and scientific revolution !
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:18pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Speaking of history
        What’s this Nostalgia blog comment all about Ralph?
        Sounds a serious accusation
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, ask Nostalgia himself!
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re the one being accused Pervertboy
        Don’t you want to comment?
        Is it true?
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:31pm
  - MickMac
    
    There are plenty of Christian refugees, some of whom had businesses too.
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:18pm
- The Heat
  
  I’ve always wondered what sort of tone-deaf wanker would actually enjoy Dobbyn’s dreary schmaltz.
  
  Now I know.
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:27am
  - GazzaW
    
    Are you tone-deaf as well steffie?
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:53am
- RRM
  
  Seen the video for “Welcome home?”
  
  No asians, you’ll notice.
  
  Straight from Labour head office. No Chinese sounding surnames. They work hard and pay tax, we don’t need any more of their sort here!
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    RRM , plenty of paleface kiwis, though!
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:28pm
Lee C

Here’s one for anyone who has a lawn to mow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI37UZXO2Cc
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January 5, 2019 8:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve got 6 to mow and they are growing like topsy at the moment.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:05am
  - sooty
    
    Get Jethro around. He’s in the area!
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh, who is he with now..
      The Mr Green lot or
      the “Hire a Hubby ” crowd?
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:11pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        The ‘I’ve impregnated a princess and so never need to work another day in my life’ franchise
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:52pm
Nostradamus

Stuff has published an opinion piece written by Rob Campbell (who is a company director): I was a late convert to being a climate change leader for business, and I’m not alone. Rob’s entitled to his opinion, but the purpose of my comment is to highlight the Stuff note at the end:

Stuff accepts the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity. We welcome robust debate about the appropriate response to climate change, but do not intend to provide a venue for denialism or hoax advocacy. That applies equally to the stories we will publish in Quick! Save the Planet and to our moderation standards for reader comments.

At one level, I don’t have an issue with this. It’s Stuff’s forum, and Stuff’s house rules. But at another level, I wonder if this is an appropriate stance for a media organisation to take. The words “denialism” and “hoax advocacy” have a calculated sting.

I’ve never bothered to comment on any Stuff article. For those who have, I was wondering if: (1) all comments go into moderation and are published if deemed acceptable; or (2) whether all comments are published immediately, but may subsequently be removed by a moderator. I assume it’s (1). Can anyone enlighten me?
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- stephieboy
  
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  Why not you give it a try, Quack!
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:23am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    Quack!
    
    The point of my comment was obviously lost on you. Do us all a favour and fuck off to St Lukes.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:25am
    - stephieboy
      
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      But isn’t “The words “denialism” and “hoax advocacy” have a calculated sting.” have a truthful ring about it when you have the likes of Christopher Monckton, James Delingpole and Anthony Watts leading the charge in favour of climate denial?
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:31am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        *Sigh* Do try and keep up. My comment wasn’t about whether climate change is happening or not. And it wasn’t an invitation for you to do a Griff on us. I’m interested in what people think is an appropriate moderation policy for a media organisation like Stuff (as distinct from a privately-operated blog).
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:39am
      - MrLovebucket
        
        You should have someone read the story of Chicken Little to you.
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:41am
      - holysheet
        
        Stoooooopidboy, when are you going to answer my question? Do you need me to post it again as a reminder?
        A simple yes here will do.
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:53am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      That’s no favour to the young girls getting perved at, stay home Stephie, but do something other than blogging
      
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      January 5, 2019 8:44am
    - stephieboy
      
      Holycrap, my reply-
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XNmy8GcBE
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:19am
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re quite retarded aren’t you Ralph
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:21am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed, appropriate response to you,
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCvgxoVARM
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:43am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ralph
        Does St Albans know about your childish fascination with burps and farting noises?
        Say, how is that ‘notice’ investigation going?
        I see someone here was taking about giving them copies of your comments.
        Did that happen?
        Lol
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:49am
      - holysheet
        
        holysheet
        
        Is this you Ralphie?
        
        http://nostalgia-nz.blogspot.com/2012/02/what-fiddler-ralph-taylor-doesnt-want.html#comment-form
        
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        Nostradamus
        
        Ralph Taylor, like Robin Bain – has skeletons in his closet and Taylor now shows the same type of seething anger at being caught out, just like his sick mate that thought it was ‘okay’ for a father to teach a daughter to put her fingers inside herself – remember that person folks – a counterspin administrator. A devo right at the top. These people are sick deviates. Ralph Taylor is losing the plot so much now he seems totally comparable with his idol when he decided to ‘tidy up’ his sick life. Buy the book Taylor, let your pervert mates read it and weep.
        
        Ouch!
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        January 5, 2019 11:01am
  - VicParking
    
    Stephie please hit you head harder on the ground on Fridays. At least Miss Stephie trys to be intelligent.
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:36am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @Nostradamus
  
  I haven’t commented on Stuff for ages… but yes things are moderated tightly.
  In the past I would put up a comment, only to see numerous others appear that had been posted at a later time than mine.
  Usually mine appeared… but it just wasn’t worth the effort of alerting Stuff to the factual errors in their copy.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, some examples of those factual errors?
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:20am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Harassing women again eh Ralph you stalker.
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:22am
    - sooty
      
      Go and do your own homework. Idiot!
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @ stephieboy
      Perhaps you would like to tell everyone on Kiwiblog why you sent me a nasty, snide post at 10:15pm on Friday night?
      
      Are you adopting Griff’s techniques of sending personal abuse at ungodly hours to intimidate/frighten/harass an elderly woman?
      
      How would you like your wife/mother receiving creepy messages late at night?
      
      What sort of man does that?
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:16pm
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        A man who hates women Maggie. As his continual actions, denials and obfuscations on here demonstrate. Best you ignore him as he is far outnumbered on this blog by people who respect you and your opinions.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:52pm
      - RRM
        
        Seems out of character, pedoboy normally prefers a young lady:
        
        recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts.
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/12/general_debate_3_december_2015.html/comment-page-3#comment-1628463
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:59pm
      - Swifty
        
        He hates them because they have never given him the respect that he thinks he deserves.
        
        Oh, and also because they laugh at him.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:59pm
    - Peter S
      
      Here is one example of an error that was repeated several times (it was the poster boy comment used by Obama and several others).
      The gist of the statement was that there were several instances of the “highest yearly temperature ever” in the last 10 years and that this proves the world is warming.
      This is an example of a technique used in the Prince 2 exam where you get a statement of fact with supporting reason, and you have to assess whether the statement is true or false, and if the contention supports the statement (giving 4 possible answers, best being true,true).
      Applying that to the example, the best that it could achieve is a true+false. The reason for this is that, even if the statement about record highs is true, it does not prove that the temperatures are currently rising.
      The IPCC’s own figures show the “hiatus” in warming for 17 years. When water boils, the temperature rises up to the point that 100 degrees (at 1 atmosphere pressure) is reached. After that all readings will be in the highest ever category, even though there is no further warming.
      The argument that the 17 years is too short a period to be significant and that it needs to be regarded in context of the previous warming is also false, because the anthropogenic portion is supposedly post industrial revolution, meaning that 17 years is highly significant.
      For the sratement to be true, the rise in the yearly temperatures would have had to be statistically significant, which it is not.
      Another point to consider, if you will, is that the highest ever figures are within 1degree (possibly within 1/2 degree even) when compared to highs in the first half of last centuary, which is within measurement error levels (If not now, then certainly then).
      
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      January 5, 2019 3:05pm
- kowtow
  
  I do have an issue with it .
  As a media organisation they have taken a clear advocacy position and are saying they will not publish a contrary opinion (depending on their subjective judgement)
  They are not fit to be called a news organisation.
  And yes the planet is warming , has been for the last 20 000 years. Science has not yet been able to explain why. So we must be able to debate that.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:32am
  - Paulus
    
    Enjoy Stuff while you can – having been bought by Channel 9 , who have said they do not want them and about to sell off Trade Me they are not a viable financial proposition so expect them to be closed in months.
    NZME is shedding staff and local offshoots are closing or just closed so will be interesting.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:04am
  - billr
    
    Your statement on science not being able to explain why is simply incorrect. The warming effect of CO2 in the atmosphere has been understood since the late 1800s.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:38pm
- igm
  
  Is this Campbell the unionist who was partially responsible (as a director) for running BNZ broke?
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @Nostradamus
  You might enjoy this post on BBC spin-doctor Clive Lewis (now Labour MP in UK)
  http://joannenova.com.au/2019/01/narcisistic-or-delusional-former-bbc-reporter-admits-he-did-biased-reporting/
  
  Note to Morrissey….have you checked out this chap for your Groper’s list?
  In late 2017, he apologised after video footage emerged of him using the phrase “get on your knees, bitch” at a party conference fringe event, and was then suspended – and cleared – over accusations that he groped a party member.
  https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/01/time-for-politicians-to-make-stark-choices-over-climate-change
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:43am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    This is from a link to Maggy’s article. It is not a short read but is a primer for understanding communism via socialism, or the labour pardy ideology as we understand it.
    
    https://www.spencerfernando.com/2019/01/03/i-survived-communism-are-you-ready-for-your-turn/
    
    It is a bit of a read, authored by a new Canadian after recognising the similarities to the Czech model from which she escaped.
    
    ‘The philosophy of the classroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next”
    
    Abraham Lincoln
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:13am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s a brilliant read.
      
      I understand now why my in-laws refused to return to Eastern Europe when they were offered the opportunity in their jobs.
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:19am
    - stephieboy
      
      Spencer Fernand apparently spinning the usual alt tight claptrap with a touch of cold war paranoia!
      
      https://www.spencerfernando.com
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:49am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        What planet are you on today, Galah?
        You’ve sprinkled your birdseed all over GD today and not contributed a single intelligent thought.
        
        You are KBs claptrap expert so perhaps you could explain what the “alt tight” version is?
        
        Sigh
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:45am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, had to laugh in respect of Joanne Nova’s expose of Clive Lewis bias when she herself does precisely the same,
    
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Joanne_Nova
    
    Romans 3:23
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:28am
    - All_on_Red
      
      lol, Ralph talks about bias but then references Rational Wiki!!!!
      What next? You’ll be quoting Politifact, The Guardian, Fox (which you have in the past) and your fave Vox
      You lack of self awareness is very funny.
      
      Edit- I see you’ve added a Christian reference. Wow, you’re a huge hypocrite pretending to be a Christian given your Capillesque behaviour
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:31am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, sad that your self-awareness doesn’t go beyond this gent,
        
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/alex-jones-radio-show-us-alt-right-conspiracy-theories-youtube-infowars-illuminati-frogs-a8483986.html
        
        LMAO
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:50am
      - All_on_Red
        
        No Ralph
        Can’t say I’ve ever listened to Jones.
        You’re obvious a fan given your delusions about Alt right.
        Oh well. I guess nutters stick together.
        Hey, how is Graham Capill these days? Compared notes about ‘Mall time’ have you.
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:57am
- srylands
  
  I’ve tried to comment a few times. Goes into moderation and never appears. I am guessing I’m on a black list. No idea why.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:43am
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    January 5, 2019 10:31am
  - Swifty
    
    Just to clarify – the -1 seemed to be automatically populated by the delete feature when I attempted to delete a comment I made in error.
    
    My apologies srylands – it was no reflection on your previous comment.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:56pm
- JIV
  
  I’ve found only about half my comments get past Stuff’s moderator. And I make sure the comments are fact based and not abuse.
  
  Its impossible to have a decent debate because of the delay in your comment showing, if it shows at all.
  
  A comment in Stuff is like 30 Seconds. Just spray and walk away. There’s no point in hanging around to get a conversation going
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:57am
- Stephen James
  
  Stuff “moderate” all comments from new email addresses. I posted something slightly right wing and every comment from then awaits moderation and then dissappears.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:00am
- KevOB
  
  Those who Believe are likely to be in for a nasty shock within a few years.
  Activists have not killed all the science. NASA is now supporting cooling is on. Look at the sun–where are its spots?
  The Green Controllers are losing.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:04am
  - Jules99
    
    Interesting point on NASA – odd that it hasn’t been reported in the MSM.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:19am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    What’s the source of “NASA is now supporting cooling is on”? Thanks
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:29am
    - KevOB
      
      http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=28&month=09&year=2018
      
      There are further reports and consequential analysis which I cannot locate readily.
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:13am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        It is an expected consequence of the greenhouse effect that the lower levels of the atmosphere get warmer and the upper levels get colder. Both result from less heat escaping the lower levels.
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:08am
      - KevOB
        
        These are direct measurements of solar activity.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:23pm
- Scott
  
  Yes climate change is the new religion and denial of climate change is the new apostasy!
  Actually the idea of the world getting warmer is a scientific question, not a moral or religious one.
  But for climate change activists the temperature of the earth is the new religion! I liked it better when they were Presbyterians ?
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:35am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    That’s about cooling in the thermosphere. That’s not where we live
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:54am
  - holysheet
    
    But, but, but the science was settled back in the late nineties.
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:04am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Sorry, my reply to KevOB above ended up in the wrong place.
    
    Yes, the idea of the world getting warmer is a scientific question. Whether we should do anything about it – that is a moral, and also a political and (if you like) religious question. What we should do about it is a different question again, bringing science and also economics back into the debate.
    
    The latter two areas are where we should be debating and engaging, not the initial question. So much ground has been lost, and so much damage has been done, by the socio-greens while the Right left the latter fields wide open and made themselves look like conspiracy theory nutjobs by trying instead to argue that it wasn’t happening at all.
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:20am
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      I agree.
      
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      January 5, 2019 1:25pm
- Bill felt
  
  This is the same Rob Campbell who said just before the election that “NZ business was ready for a Labour Govt”
  
  He is a head case, a socialist parading as an businessman, and one who is I am sure troughing it at the moment.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:49am
  - sooty
    
    Wonder if he’s been on any off labours talkfeasts.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:29am
    - GazzaW
      
      He’s bound to be on plenty of ‘working groups’.
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:04pm
  - Paulus
    
    Surely is this is the one time leading Trade Unionist Rob Campbell ?
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:44pm
- brett68
  
  If you don’t sign up with a facebook account you’ll struggle to have any comment published.
  
  Stuff wants your facebook data.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:12am
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t worry Facebook has everything you do.
    They and such as Google, Microsoft and others mop up everything and digest to other billion $ enormous Websites who digest and re report to what we call the media – such as the Guardian and Washington Post.
    The Herald publishes this is as fact when it is a jumble of intaken lies washed and reproduced.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:48pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Stuff accepts the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity.”
  
  So, before there were humans, there was no climate change?
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:37pm
duggledog

Imagine some poor bastard from a war torn African shit hole being greeted at the gate by pale old Dobbyn droning on with his awful schmaltz Welcome Home. He’d turn round and want to fly home again.
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January 5, 2019 8:21am
- stephieboy
  
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  duggledog, I think the wonderful song says more about adopting a general welcoming, benevolent and hopeful attitude to our nation about us rather than your negative grumpy, whingeing grizzle guts!
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:26am
  - howzit
    
    The guy has done very well for a ferret, I assume you are related…
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:46am
- kowtow
  
  In that case keep playing , louder , constantly.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:33am
Salacious Crumb

Their team might be struggling at the moment but Cricket Australia have to be credited for appointing Tim Paine as captain. One gets the impression he is a good sort in the MaCullum/Root mound but with a much more lively sense of humor.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/paine-answers-reporter-s-phone-at-press-conference-in-hilarious-exchange-20190104-p50ppd.html

This after one of the best onfield wind ups he was heard directing at Rishabh Pant during the Perth test.
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January 5, 2019 8:22am
- VicParking
  
  Struggling? More like abismal. 622 for 7 declared. His captaincy was poor is to praise him.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:41am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Can’t blame Paine for the massive workload his bowlers have had to carry. The Indian top order have been impressive on tour and done to Australia what Australia have done to many touring sides; ground them down. The Aussie selectors should have been bolder and rested some of their quicks for this test. They looked wrecked after the first day in Sydney. Smith will give them an anchor to bat around once he returns.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:03am
- MCos
  
  The difference between Tim Paine and Kane Williamson is that while he might be a bit of a comedian he can’t get his team to knuckle down and grind out a winning record.
  NZ had the best winning percentage of any team in 2018.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:00am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    2018? We played fewer matches than all the top tier teams. When we can beat Australia and SA in a test series then that might have some merit. We lost the test series in Australia and our last ODI series we lost all 3 to them. Hardly a raging success against a “struggling” team.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:09am
    - MCos
      
      They can only play what’s put in front of them, which included Pakistan in the UAE, where they’re almost unbeatable, England, Sri Lanka and someone else.
      Aussie had a poor record last year & India only 50/50. South Africa are clear numero uno, but their win/loss was not as good as NZ.
      Talking about tests.
      Apart from Williamson & Boult I don’t think our players are flash champions, but they are persistent bastards.
      Look at Sodhi and Wagner batting for a draw against England
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:58am
      - GazzaW
        
        NZ has played consistently as a team since the appointment of McCullum as captain whilst building a new depth of players. A great team culture too with a big degree of respect for their opposition. Inbuilt arrogance was the main cause of Australia’s downfall and guess what, the rest of the world is loving watching them suffer.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:13pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Quite so MCos. We have depth in our playing stocks such I as can seldom remember. We now have five spin bowlers with test cricket experience in the last eighteen months. Our fast bowling stocks are terrific, and if James Neesham can get his act together he will become the test all-rounder, batting at #6 and bowling as either third or fourth seamer, depending on whether we play one or two spinners.
        
        Our batting has been impressive too. We just need Jeet Raval to get past the mental hurdle of his first test century, and things will look pretty solid. He’ll get that chance against Bangladesh in March.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:10pm
  - VicParking
    
    Kane is not the Greatest as a Captain. Its easy to Captain when you have winning players.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:30am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Williamson is growing into the captaincy role, much as Stephen Fleming did. His biggest challenge at the moment is making good decisions on DRS reviews 😀
      
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      January 5, 2019 1:11pm
- Biscuit
  
  Salacious, I have been enjoying the Indians batting ‘The Cheats’ into submission.
  
  And I have especially been enjoying heard Timmy screech an encouraging ‘BOWLED, (name of the bowler)!’ after each and every of the 8957239754725472 balls his bowlers have bowled.
  
  I’ds give a bit more credence to Paine as a captain if once, just once, he yelled’ Shit, Mitch, that was the worst-pitched I think I’ve ever seen. No wonder India are 600-6!’
  
  As regards Pant, I’d have the youngster well ahead in the wind-up stakes – Pant is at least contributing to his team!
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:22am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Flat pitch, no sandpaper in the pocket and look how much leather youre chasing Ozzie boys!
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:36am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Biscuit – I’ve also enjoyed seeing Aussie get hammered but you’ll never hear a captain berate a player over the stump mic. Paine, like Williamson is a positive leader. As I mention above, the Aussie bowlers have been ground down by batsmen in good form, who can bat for sessions and who score in the zones that Aussie wickets always encourage.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:44am
    - Biscuit
      
      But why not (hear a captain berate a player), Salacious?
      
      Imagine the Aussie bowlers:
      ‘Oh, ffs, Timmy is gonna yell ‘Bowled, mayyyyyte!’ no matter what I do. For 6 bloody hours!’
      
      That prospect, far from being encouraging, would be disheartening to me…
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:51am
Happychappy

Winston Peter’s racing policy is creating bad vibes around NZ and especially in the South Island where people in Racing are saying it’s becoming North v South with Peter White Life member and ex President of South Canterbury Racing club not happy about what is happening. .
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January 5, 2019 8:23am
- waikatogirl
  
  Does Peter White, not realise whatever Winston does is for Winston’s benefit and bauble collection, not for the benefit of the racing industry. ? ?
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:34am
- igm
  
  What about Stratford? Peters wants to sell their course taking the proceeds .
  It has nothing to do with the Drunken Dwarf, nor his harridan money wasting unelected PM.
  Are they intending to use the money for building homes to house unwanted bogus refugees!
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  Winston can’t get home for pre-Dinner drinks from the South Island.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:42am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Only because the harridan has nicked the plane.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:50am
    - niggly
      
      And Ron nicked the choppers!
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:13am
- MCos
  
  I don’t know anything about the racing industry except that every sunday we go to the Avondale Sunday Market held at the racecourse over there and I can tell you the place is in a pitiful state and should be closed down immediately.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:05am
  - Biscuit
    
    MCos, I arrived home from some overseas trip bright-and-early one day and noticed there were races on at Avondale.
    
    Having nothing better to do, I went out.
    
    The joint’s facilities DEFINED ‘Third World’…
    
    I am guessing they ain’t improved much?
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:25am
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t tell the Great Builder – he will take for expensive cheap housing.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:51pm
  - logan0312
    
    From what I understand they are pretty much all on the bones of their bums. But they struggle by with the help of grants from pub pokie trusts and the like (maybe Lotto too for all I know). They qualify as ‘charities’ and this sort of donation is presumably seen as supporting a social good! Go figure – gambling profits to support a gambling industry… Without these handouts, which I fail to see are of any community benefit at all, most of these clubs would have gone the way of the dodo years ago.
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:56pm
- Biscuit
  
  Happychappy, I laughed at Trackside on New Years DAy.
  
  ‘Ellerslie is buzzing!’
  
  Ellerslie had a near empty Members Stand deck each time I saw it and a decidedly-empty infield, half of which I see they’ve now flogged off to golfers.
  
  But Winston and his Vela mates were getting their drinks so I guess all is right in the world…?
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:47am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  The John Messara report requisitioned by Winston has some very important points. It follows on from Reports and Royal Commissions into racing like the 1924 effort, 1946 and 1970 one. All of the suggestions made in earlier reports were ignored. The Messara report must be followed. Too many administrators in racing have been tremendously enthusiastic unpaid volunteers who have done admirable work for their Clubs, but they cannot see the wood for the trees. Change must come about. The racing industry is in an awful state, and so few of the clubs’ administrators can recognise that.
  To put south Taranaki racing at Waverley seems silly, but think very carefully about all that. It is actually very sensible. The criticism is coming from people as bright as “IGM”. There is no way that the sale proceeds, nett of re-location costs for professional trainers, would go to the government; it will go to the NZ Racing Board.
  I accept that there is something unusual about NZ racing. When the very very best of the country’s gallopers turn up at Ellerslie the crowd is just so so. When slow horses turn up at Taupo there is a huge crowd. Those horses at Taupo; their time would be better spent featuring in a French dish called hamburger cheval.
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:11pm
kowtow

“The offender wasn’t trying to intentionally harm people,” Acting Assistant Commissioner Mick Fitzgerald told reporters in Sydney.

“It was a man who was attempting to do everything he could to avoid arrest. His actions, in particular the actions when he stabbed the innocent person, (are) the actions of a person who we believe had mental health problems.”

Fitzgerald is most locquacious …… “An Arab ” would have been sufficient.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/04/knifeman-goes-sydney-bumper-car-rampage-killing/
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January 5, 2019 8:36am
- VicParking
  
  In Australia you can’t get death by cop no matter how bad you are and how hard you try, you have to kill yourself.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:46am
Sofia

Apparently, Stuff parliamentary gallery journalists believe, as a 2019 prediction that “National will trigger the waka jumping bill to remove Jami-Lee Ross from Parliament after he becomes a thorn in their side following his return to Parliament”.

But Speaker Mallard has already dealt with the Parliamentary Membership of Jami-Lee Ross under Standing Orders, declaring Ross an Independent, as recorded in Hansard :

Speaker – “Under Standing Order 35(1)(c), I have been advised by the senior Opposition whip that the National Party’s parliamentary membership has changed and that Jami-Lee Ross is no longer a member of the National Party for parliamentary purposes.
Accordingly, under Standing Order 34(5), Jami-Lee Ross is, from 16 October 2018, regarded as an Independent member for parliamentary purposes.

Standing Order 35(1)(c) The Speaker must be informed of any change of party details.
… seems OK

However, Standing Order 34(5) Any member who is not a member of a recognised party is treated as an Independent member for parliamentary purposes
… should obviously be changed to …
All members, except a member elected as an independent, shall comply with the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Act 2018

Otherwise any letter Simon Bridges may write in relation to the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Act 2018 to Speaker Mallard regarding Ross, would describe what Mallard has already resolved and stated in Hansard.
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January 5, 2019 8:39am
- Yvette
  
  So who currently runs the Botany Electorate Office?
  Or, more exactly, who is legally entitled to run the office?
  
  National, or a now Independent Member, who was not elected as an Independent?
  
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  January 5, 2019 12:17pm
Huevon

If this weather continues, I’m all for climate change.

(Posted from undisclosed picturesque South Island location)
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January 5, 2019 8:40am
- JIV
  
  Dont forget Climate Change causes more floods, droughts, wind, rain, hail,snow, fires AND beautiful sunny weather
  
  Its a magical thing this CO2
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:05am
  - tf78
    
    Remember a few years ago the weather was due to El Nin0/La Nina.
    
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    January 5, 2019 2:50pm
starboard

WP. NZ’s own Mugabe when it comes to baubles.
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January 5, 2019 8:43am
- Komata
  
  Starboard
  
  Nah, more like Idi…
  
  (Just saying).
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:05am
- Paulus
  
  Mugabe has been in a serious medical condition in Singapore for many months.
  He will only go back in a coffin.
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:53pm
KiWombat

Seriously considering ditching fags and taking up cannabis now that cannabis is cheaper than fags.

I’ve never had a desire to try cannabis, but might ask my doc whether I can get any medical dispensation next time I see him. By then it might even be covered by pharmac !

I wondered whether our cast of players in bullshit castle ever considered that the constant increase in cigarette tax would make them dearer than illicit drugs?
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January 5, 2019 8:44am
Humble Capitalist

Mrs Humble caught up with an old work friend. Her husband has been sacked so they are on the bene. WINZ helping them to keep pay the mortgage and they are off on a weeks holiday to Oz. My wife asked if she would like to help her with a bit of work in her business. She said no thanks – she has no interest in getting back to work at all.
What a great example theyre setting for their young kids
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January 5, 2019 8:45am
- Jules99
  
  I wasn’t aware that WINZ helped with the mortgage – I thought you had to go begging to the bank and renegotiate payments until you got a job again. Someone was telling me about a middle aged PI family man who spends his days at the local swimming pool courtesy of WINZ – why bother working for living when you can get a lifestyle like that?
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:23am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Not sure Jules im only quoting what was said by Mrs Bene and they continue to live in the house they purchased despite not having job incomes and having no intention of trying to find work. Mrs Humble asked how they can go to Oz for a weeks holiday and the answer was ‘we booked it ages ago’.
    
    Poverdy can be tough i guess.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:51am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Been watching ‘Can’t Pay, We’ll take it Away’ on Netflix. High Court bailiffs in England collecting debts with an hour’s notice to pay at least 50%, or removal of goods to the value of the debt. And, also they are employed to evict tenants within an hour. Out on the street and down the Council for emergency housing. Fascinating the financial mess people get themselves into. The statistics are horrendous, and the system is broken with the numbers skyrocketing. All relatable to NZ with the same call for more housing, rents too high, damaged housing, commercial debtors withholding payments from suppliers, etc, etc, etc.
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:07am
      - Swifty
        
        Heh – my daughter and I have been binging (bingeing?) on it at night for the last week or so.
        
        We both like Delroy. 🙂
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:29am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Good TV to convalesce to, and to thank your lucky stars for being financially literate.
        There may have been financial pitfalls in our past but most of us can work out not racking up debt makes for a calmer existence and a better life.
        
        Hope your ticker is on the mend. ?
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:11am
- brett68
  
  What bull shit.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:17am
Nostradamus

Pete George is upset with Kiwiblog readers: Mob censorship in action at Kiwiblog?

I posted about some over the top comments and a ban at Kiwiblog on Thursday. There was no General debate at Kiwiblog that day, so I posted a comment and link on it yesterday. There was some reaction to it for a while, but then it disappeared into moderation – not just the comment but the whole thread.
…
What is of interest though is that a small number of people (depending on how the moderation trigger is set) can effectively censor a comment and thread if they want to. DPF may eventually release reported comments from moderation, but by then the audience has moved on.

Maybe he should join a friendship circle with Morrissey and Notsofast.
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January 5, 2019 8:49am
- itstricky
  
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  Maybe he should join a friendship circle with Morrissey and Notsofast
  
  Maybe you should be as concerned about this as you are about Stuff’s moderation?
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:05am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Itstricky:
    
    Maybe you should be as concerned about this as you are about Stuff’s moderation?
    
    Are you concern-trolling? We’ve – as in you and I – discussed DPF’s reporting system before – see here. Do you have any new and relevant points to make?
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:12am
    - SGA
      
      Do you have any new and relevant points to make?
      
      Since when has that been a prerequisite for KB, Nostradamus? Heavens, General Debate would be 50-60 comments a day with criteria like that. 🙂
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:04pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  I think Pete has a tumbleweed infestation
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s taking up too much of my mornings checking KB for what I’ve missed and then having to go over to Your NZ to find a rehashed version of what is on KB, The Standard, and WhaleOil and commentary from those MIA.
  
  Perhaps some kind soul could just post up a précis of all the cross-blog chit-chat.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:13am
  - Biscuit
    
    Maggy, its easy:
    
    KB – Salt of the Earth commentary, as always
    The Standard – ‘Nine years of neglect’
    WhaleOil – ‘Those bloody Nats what won’t listen to me’
    Pete – ‘People are downticking me! But I’m so sweet!’
    Notsofast – ‘Did I ever tell you I think there’s the faintest possibility Mark Lundy didn’t do it?’
    Hugh – ‘Link’, ‘Link’, ‘Link’, ‘Link’, ‘Link’ and more ‘Link’
    Secondcumming – (Le Joke du Jour)
    Penny RIP – ‘Open the books, Auckland Council!’
    stephieboy – Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    …
    
    No charge!
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:36am
- sooty
  
  Invite Hugh, Stephie, muttonbird along aswell!
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:17am
- Morrissey
  
  Mr George has got it exactly right. DPF keeps away from the fray, generally, which is admirable; however the “Report” function is routinely, cynically abused by a small group of grumblers. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same half dozen haters of free speech pushing that button compulsively.
  
  Judging from his hilarious comment below, I’d bet that “rightoverlabour” is one of those persistent telltale tits:
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/12/your-post-is-defamatory-it-has-in-past.html
  
  Over at the Stranded, there is a host of censorious “administrators” who will cut you off on a whim. Just last month I was banned for eight days after I made a critical comment about Jane Clifton. The moderator Te Reo Putake declared that this amounted to “attacking a woman.”….
  
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-clobbering-machine-strikes-again.html
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:29pm
  - Swifty
    
    Reported for linkwhoring.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:41pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Morrissey, I’m a ‘Let everyone say anything’ sort of person. Within certain legally-related boundaries, of course.
      
      My podgy typing fingers, though, occasionally hit ‘Report’ rather than ‘Reply’.
      
      DPF must, occasionally, think ‘Exactly what IS Biscuit moaning about here?’
      
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      January 5, 2019 2:15pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I’ve done the same thing, my friend. I’ve NEVER tried to report anyone, but I’ve accidentally done the same thing as you a few times.
        
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        January 5, 2019 2:27pm
    - Morrissey
      
      You rat.
      
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      January 5, 2019 2:27pm
      - dirty harry
        
        I reported morrisey for whoring also heh.
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:29pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  You lost me at “Pete George”…
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:28pm
  - Sponge
    
    Same KS. He is always clutching at his pearls about something.
    
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    January 5, 2019 3:36pm
VicParking

Want a job that ends late December and does not start again until Mid Febuary, Pays at least $160,000 PA plus expenses. Inbetween Feb and Dec you do nothing, have no responsibility, lots of additional breaks with subsidised travel and meals??
Become a Green List MP.
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January 5, 2019 8:56am
- lilman
  
  Or a teacher.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:45am
  - GazzaW
    
    Wrong lilman. Our teacher neighbour finished school 19 December and effectively starts again 15 January to do her 2019 prep work followed by a full week of professional development courses, management and syndicate meetings. There are no doubt some slack-arse schools, principals and teachers but don’t judge the many by the few.
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:33pm
    - MrLovebucket
      
      The unions will clamp down on that. Can’t have teachers outperforming one another. The optimal outcome is equal output, even if that is the lowest common denominator.
      
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      January 5, 2019 4:28pm
    - lilman
      
      Wrong ,my wife works at a high school,in support role.
      To hear Teachers bitch and moan is nothing but a joke.
      They are like little kids,any other business would be broke in a fortnight if they carried on like teachers.
      My daughter is a teacher,she has been offered jobs in the private sector but has turned them down ,at a financial cost because she wants her holidays.
      
      Teacher are over paid and lazy,Im on a BOT of a high school and in the past served 12 years on a primary board.
      Real nonsense ,repeated by fools.
      
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      January 5, 2019 6:07pm
      - GazzaW
        
        Why the hell would you serve on a BOT if you have such scant regard for education? The school must be desperate. Maybe it’s the tax free honorarium.
        
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        January 5, 2019 6:19pm
      - lilman
        
        Im on the board to ensure the charter is followed and implemented.
        Also to have some input into the community and helping a great principal who was besieged by union deviants that made his life hell.
        
        And NEVER,not 1 cent has gone into my pocket.
        Unlike a few Teachers who do absolutely NOTHING without being paid.
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:37pm
- DigNap15
  
  Or a tvnz worker
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:29pm
holysheet

3 people having sex is a threesome, 2 is a twosome. So next time someone calls you ‘HANDSOME’, don’t take it as a compliment!*
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January 5, 2019 9:00am
- Biscuit
  
  holysheet, my late Grandfather was always interested in my sex life back when I was at Uni.
  
  ‘Any threesomes lately?’
  
  ‘Nah, Grandad. Came close to one the other night … but neither girl turned up and I had to owner-operate’.
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:06am
Notsofast

Nostradamus suggested yesterday that there was a meat pie involved on Lundy’s shirt and asked for the evidence.
Here it is from the recent judgement

[341] However, Mr Eaton has referred to evidence called by the Crown from
Ms Elizabeth Wictum, a scientist attached to the Forensic Unit of the School of
Veterinary Medicine at UCLA, Davis. He claimed her evidence supported a possible
narrative that the CNS tissue found on Mr Lundy’s shirt was from the food chain.
Ms Wictum had conducted tests on elutions prepared by ESR from the pocket and
sleeve on Mr Lundy’s shirt and forwarded to her in California. She referred to the tests
as the “meat ID”, the “quantitative PCR” and the “amplified mitochondrial DNA”
tests. The elutions were subjected to each test.
[342] The first test was “weakly positive” for both pork and beef in both samples,
and in one case weakly positive for sheep. The results were very low, indicating there
was very little mitochondrial DNA in both samples. It was “very weak” and “barely
detectable”. The quantity of DNA present was “very low”. The quantitative PCR test
was used to test the presence of “cattle nuclear DNA”. It gave negative results. The
third test was inconclusive. In relation to the results achieved in the first test,
Ms Wictum later explained:
… because it’s very low-level obviously it’s not meat itself … So this is more
consistent with, for example, food spatter, if you were frying say a sausage or
something … that had those species in it, it’s again very low-level background
type of mitochondrial DNA. “
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January 5, 2019 9:04am
- Nostradamus
  
  Notsofast:
  
  ~~Nostradamus~~ Harvey Wilson suggested yesterday that there was a meat pie involved on Lundy’s shirt and asked for the evidence.
  
  I’ve fixed that for you.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:06am
  - Notsofast
    
    Ok thanks for clarifying, and sorry for attributing to you the wisdom for asking the question.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:10am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Was it a meat and brain pie?
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:12am
    - Notsofast
      
      No, in fact it was grease laden spatter which eluted poorly to the distilled water. No brain involved.
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:15am
      - Humble Capitalist
        
        Lundy eating multiple pies = not just extremely plausible but highly likely
        Therefore must be innocent surely
        Probably knocked back a 6 pack of pies after the hooker left his motel room
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:06am
    - G152
      
      How come only one spot of brain matter?
      He should have been entirely covered with blood spatter.
      And with forensic testing he, his car and clothes should have glowed with the blood traces.
      One spot of claimed brain matter…
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:01am
      - Notsofast
        
        There was no brain and you are quite right. Here is the description lead Seargeant Grantham offered at trial 2002
        
        U allege, the Police and Crown allege that the brain tissue which u
        say is Christine’s, was on Mark’s shirt, that is your allegation
        isnt it? That is cct.
        
        In the context of all your enquiry can u tell us how u think the
        brain tissue might hv got on the shirt if Mark Lundy was
        responsible for it being there? There is 2 ways that I cd think
        of.
        
        It might be helpful if u can be short in yr answers? The first is
        
        58
        that in the throes of murdering his wife some of the brain matter
        
        has Come UP and I believe the offender, the accused was wearing
        some sort of cover-all, it has either gone down on the
        as his t0P has pdpped open, or more likely that he has
        
        his hand and when he has taken his overalls off and he
        touched here and touched here.
        
        Where do u think he tk his overalls off?
        
        overalls or
        inside here
        
        had some on
        
        I believe probably the
        most likely area in the house is the juncture of the two hallways,
        
        one that leads off to the bathrm and the main hall itself, there is
        the largest area there, unseen from anywhere else, he is a big man,
        it wd give him plenty of area to move in to get them off.
        
        What happd to the overalls? We didnt find them, I dont know.
        
        U hv a witness dont u who says that she saw someone she believes to
        be Mark Lundy running on the road at 7.15pm wearing a shirt with a
        tie? That is cct.
        
        So does that not — discussing possibilities here – does that not
        lead u to 1k at the possblty that Mark Lundy was not wearing the
        polo shirt, if indeed it was him? Its possible.
        
        So if he wasnt wearing the polo shirt, then the stain wdnt hv got
        on the polo shirt when he was taking his overalls off? No, but
        taking that case scenario it cd hv bn transferred when he was going
        to his car or motel rm
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:17am
      - Notsofast
        
        Here is another appealing idea from Steve Braunias’s book
        
        “Palmerston North writer Peter Hawes, who attended the first trial and filed an extraordinary report to the Manawatu Standard, mentioned the headstone when we spoke on the phone. He hated the thing. ‘Not only do they get hacked to death,’ he said, ‘they get lumbered with banality.’ We spoke on a day when I happened to be visiting Levick and Lundy. I took the call in the trees by the creek, and talked in a low voice. It felt like an abuse of hospitality to talk with Hawes. He was in possession of one of the most original minds in New Zealand literature, but he echoed what everyone else thought when he said, ‘I know full well he is absolutely guilty.’ He had studied Lundy in court, tried to examine his pathology. He failed. He said, ‘I couldn’t get at him. I couldn’t find the gap in his brain. I couldn’t find why he did it.’ And then he said, ‘Amber’s death was an act of love.’ I said, ‘What?’ Hawes said, ‘A kid can’t live after seeing that. He killed her to save her.’ From his story in the Standard: ‘I sank my brain into the doings of this crime — it affected me greatly. My wife was afeard of me, she hid axes and tomahawks and feared for my sanity as I tried to descend to Lundy’s. Because he did these murders, of that, dear reader, have no doubt. He waddled into that bedroom dressed in freezing work overalls with mask and perhaps a snorkel. Then he set about her. He took away her face in 17 blows, in order to expunge her from the memory of his and the human race. His daughter, alarmed by the affray, then rushed into the room and in a gush of sheer parental love, Mark Lundy chased her down the hall and, in three jagged blows, sent all memories of what she had seen to heaven.’ Hawes and I spoke for about half an hour. I hiked to a low ridge, and sat down on the pine needles. I said in a low whisper, afraid that Levick or Lundy might overhear, ‘Have you considered the possibility that he’s innocent?’ Hawes said, ‘That would be an interesting intellectual exercise.’ ”
        
        So maybe he had a snorkel too. I sure would, leave nothing to chance.
        HAHAHAHAHAHA
        
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        January 5, 2019 10:28am
kevn

via the herald lead story… Had to chuckle in support of the Akld garage owner being told what to do and how to do it, plus how much the ‘customer’ was prepared to pay.
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January 5, 2019 9:08am
- sooty
  
  Snowflake will not be selling many houses now will he! It’s not hard to work out he is.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:21am
- holysheet
  
  Now all we need is the same rights enshrined into law. Imagine IRD trying to collect tax from these snowflakes.
  “Oi you, pay your tax”
  “Sorry but I think you want too much tax. I will pay you x amount as that’s all I think you need”
  
  Oh how these snowflakes will suffer out in the real world.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:22am
sooty

Who knew that Labour had a backbencher called Kieran McAnulty.
He is proposing a banking code of conduct.
His 30 seconds of fame in the limelight!
edit. Awaiting moderation it says.
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January 5, 2019 9:24am
- GazzaW
  
  Maybe he should start with Kiwibank.
  
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  January 5, 2019 12:35pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Former Bookie with the TAB. Remember that next time Labour starts banging on about problem gambling.
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:30pm
secondcumming

Tindalls Bay is an absolute millpond this morning as I get ready to pull out within the next hour or so.

Yesterday afternoon the missus and me went around the neighbors and said our goodbyes. The thing I really love about being here, (beside the obvious), is the people. It’s a place where we all think alike, act alike, and to some extent even look alike. There’s always an air of positivity and good humor among everyone.

Thinking back on it, in the entire 10 days we’ve been here, there was just one ‘slightly awkward moment’. I was having a beer and a few laughs with some mates at the Surf Club when this Midget came over and asked if he could have a go with my Yo-yo.
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January 5, 2019 9:31am
- Biscuit
  
  Hda never herad of Tindalls Bay, secondcumming, so I went a-Googling.
  
  Quickly found out why.
  
  It’s over the Bridge.
  
  I have been (once) over the Auckland Harbour Bridge and (once) back, 10 minutes later.
  
  That counts as ‘doing Northland’, right…
  
  (Do ferry trips to Rangitoto and Devonport get me extra ‘Thanks For Supporting Our Tourism’ badges?)
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:43am
  - holysheet
    
    Yes and say thanks to the drunken dwarf if you get the super.
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:53am
MT_Tinman

US Stocks pull a U-turn and soar after jobs report, trade talks

From https://www.apnews.com/

I couldn’t find this information on either NZ’s MSM’s main sites.

I wonder why?
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January 5, 2019 10:02am
- MCos
  
  Down 600 yesterday
  Up 750 today
  
  3500 down from a year ago
  3500 up from two years ago
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:34am
Manolo

The American economy goes forward:
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/156945000-2018-ends-record-employment-participation-rate-hits-trump-era

The Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics said on Friday the economy added an impressive 312,000 jobs in December, which was a month of strong retail sales; and the nation’s unemployment rate increased two-tenths of a point to 3.9%, which is still an 18-year low.
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January 5, 2019 10:08am
- MCos
  
  How can it be a low if it’s gone up?
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:21am
- stephieboy
  
  4,4% in 2016. Only a .44% drop come 2019?
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:35am
  - All_on_Red
    
    What ignorant morons like you fail to understand is that the main success under Trump has been the shift from where under Obama most work was part time and many people had two jobs (79% in 2010: Source BLS)
    Whereas under Trump that has changed to where most jobs (79% 2018 :source BLS) are now single permanent jobs. Full time has replaced part time.
    Sigh, I realise you’re too dumb to get this but other readers might appreciate the difference.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:42am
    - kowtow
      
      The Democraps want to keep flooding the US with their own potential voters , that’s why they want any reforms.
      
      The amazing thing is how the US can keep absorbing these incomers and still keep functioning.
      
      ‘The process known as “chain migration,” for instance — whereby newly naturalized citizens can bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the U.S. with them — has imported more than nine million foreign nationals since 2005.’
      
      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/03/daca-illegal-aliens-surged-hispanic-vote-flipping-gop-counties-blue/
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:59am
      - kowtow
        
        Doh !
        
        don’t want any reforms
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:55pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red, 2010? Two years after the Debt Crises?
      
      2016 we are discussing and not Trump’s” miracle “-working,2017-8
      
      Do Do!
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:35pm
Swifty

Seeing as he frequently uses KB to signal all sorts of his supposed virtues including today’s effort on benevolence and the welcoming of refugees – some questions for Stiffy:

How many refugees does he currently have staying at his place?

How many refugees has he ever had staying at his place?

What is the value of financial donations he’s personally made to refugee settlement organisations in NZ over, say, the last 10 years?

Does he accept that people who arrive here claiming refugee status but who have passed through multiple peaceful countries to get here can legitimately be questioned as non-genuine?
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January 5, 2019 10:18am
- Awww C-mon
  
  He doesn’t answer questions, he just asks them
  
  LOL
  
  ?‍♂️
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:30am
- stephieboy
  
  Swifty & Awww C-mon, my answer-
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XNmy8GcBE
  
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  January 5, 2019 10:38am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Typical Ralph
    Just full of wind.
    – you’re quite immature aye
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:44am
    - stephieboy
      
      I’ll leave both of you to your alter ego to tango with,
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8DEpM4-6A
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:56am
      - Swifty
        
        Heh heh – you always know Stiffy has nothing left when he resorts to the old Alex Jones slur.
        
        Please try harder Stiffyboy.
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:42am
      - GazzaW
        
        Hey steffie have you just discovered YouTube? More links than LOLs today.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:40pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy on 22 March 2018:
    
    All on Red , first could you please help with enquiries regarding a notice put on the door at St Albans ,
    
    Ralph Taylor
    ( stephieboy from Kiwiblog )
    cyberbully and a
    PERVERT .
    
    Any more notices on the church door?
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:51am
    - stephieboy
      
      Quack, do you carry around a personal dossier on me?
      
      Weird!
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:57am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Do the people at St Albans know that Nostalgia-NZ wrote a blog post (What fiddler Ralph Taylor doesn’t want people to know) saying that you have “skeletons in the closet” and have turned around your “sick life”?
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:00am
      - All_on_Red
        
        What skeletons?
        You holding out on us Ralph?
        Do share.
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:04am
      - Swifty
        
        Do you think it’s alright to leave the boy with Uncle Ernie?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7e4Y03uojg
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:18am
      - Morrissey
        
        Don’t be paranoid, Stephie. What kind of tosser would compile a dossier on his internet friends?
        
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        January 5, 2019 11:20am
  - Swifty
    
    Thanks Stiffy – you have answered my questions superbly and just as I suspected.
    
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    January 5, 2019 10:52am
Morrissey

Silly old Judge Caprio, spouter of bullshit

Judge Frank Caprio, talking to this fellow charged with running a red light, comes across as fair and humane. And then at the 2:24 mark the old fool starts burbling out the most pernicious nonsense.

Watch—and try not to vomit or laugh….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60JpNtOS2U
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January 5, 2019 10:40am
- mandk
  
  I did watch.
  
  I have seen videos of Judge Frank Caprio before, and he strikes me as someone who tries to administer justice with kindness and humanity.
  
  On the other hand, Morrissey, you strike me as someone who spends his time looking for people to besmirch.
  
  Try not to be an arsehole.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:27am
  - Morrissey
    
    Nice old fellow he seems to be, mandk. I agree with you. Sadly, though, he lets himself down by ritually invoking all that nonsense about U.S. crimes of aggression, against Iraq in this instance, being carried out in order to “defend all of us”.
    
    That’s a lie, and a deliberate lie. Did the old fool HAVE to spout that nonsense? Couldn’t he have shown mercy to that damaged veteran—one of hundreds of thousands treated abominably by the government that they “served”—without mouthing that horrible canard?
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:38am
    - igm
      
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      January 5, 2019 12:42pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The Breenmobile is a bit more swept-up than that, my friend.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:45pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Minus 1? Jesus CHRIST, this bloke’s not signaling to the rest of us that he’s about to commit suicide, is he?
        
        Somebody get a straitjacket!
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:48pm
      - GazzaW
        
        Don’t you mean washed-up?
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:48pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Thanks, Gaz, you’ve just reminded me. The Breenmobile needs to be taken to the Car-Fe.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:53pm
      - sooty
        
        Morrischancer. How come stephie is not on your list!
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:25pm
MCos

Today I read a review of Jordan Peterson’s book ‘12 Rules of Life’, which was was basically the reviewers informed opinion on the book and the author in general.
I don’t know enough about the subject he pontificates on to form an opinion myself either way. I think it would take years to study every angle rather than take what he or his critics say as gospel.
However there is something that seems to be one of the basis of his beliefs.
Men are order & women are chaos.
My question.
Is this universal or does he allow for chaotic men & orderly women?
Is he flexible in his philosophy or, being a man, must every conform to view of the world.
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- waikatogirl
  
  Professor Peterson is not saying women are chaos per se. If you read the book it is the equivalent of ying and yang, a philosophy of balance. He states it is important for less chaos in your life to have a secure footing. Too much chaos in your life is unbalancing to a safe and happy existence.
  
  I suggest you go directly to the “horses mouth” and read Professor Jordan Peterson’s book, written after nearly 40 years experience, rather than reading reviews from the point of view of reviewers.
  
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  January 5, 2019 12:42pm
  - Jules99
    
    Agree – definitely worth a read. A very complex, deep thinker who draws on some of the brightest minds of the past as well.
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  MCos , you might find this review helpful,
  
  “Jordan Peterson’s Flimsy Philosophy of Life”
  
  Peterson’s claims about morality, reality, and the meaning of life are dubious.
  
  Jordan B. Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life is on the bestseller lists, despite the commonplace nature of his rules, which boil down to: stand up for yourself, take care of yourself, make friends, don’t compare yourself to others, mind your children, set your house in order, pursue meaning, tell the truth, listen to people, be precise, give children freedom, and enjoy pets. Part of Peterson’s appeal comes through lively stories from the Bible, fairy tales, his personal life, and his practice as a clinical psychologist.
  
  But many people take Peterson to be wise, not just entertaining, with profound things to say about the nature of morality, reality, and life. These are philosophical topics, so we can ask how well Peterson’s views stand up to philosophical scrutiny…”
  
  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201802/jordan-peterson-s-flimsy-philosophy-life
  
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  January 5, 2019 4:57pm
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    What would be your 12 rules for life Stiffy?
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:07pm
BeaB

The problem with Jacinda isn’t that she’s nice or not nice. Her problem is she is just not up to the rigours of the job she was so keen to get, despite her protestations. Remember, no-one takes over the leadership of a political party unless they are driven by ambition.
So we have an ambitious woman, approaching middle age, who has achieved virtually nothing of note in her life. She failed to win a seat in two elections, until she was gifted a safe seat, one suspects all part of the long-term plan.
She sat in parliament for 9 years and did nothing, attracting no attention to herself except for complimentary puff pieces.
She has been almost invisible as a PM except for the big moments like posing with royalty or emoting on TV.
She has a glib plausibility but no policy or action to back it.
I was dismayed when Winston chose her over the experienced and sound Bill English but understand why as he can run rings round her, as can second-raters like Grant Robertson who have risen to status undreamed of and undeserved.
The problem with John Key is that he worked like a Trojan and made it look easy.
The problem with Jacinda is that she is all surface and no depth. She has never needed to exert herself and is still asleep on the job.
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January 5, 2019 11:14am
- brett68
  
  There’s two types of PM’s.
  
  The John Key/Helen Clark type where they’re all over everything, run a tight ship and lead from the front.
  
  Or the Jacinda Ardern type which is a figurehead role where all the work is done behind the scenes by others and she merely presents it.
  This is why she accepted the position of leader, this sort of role is perfect for her, she would also mentally struggle with anything more than that.
  
  Thing is through both are equally effective but Ardern does rely on a compliant and supportive MSM.
  
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  January 5, 2019 12:21pm
  - sooty
    
    With Comrade JacinDUH, the indians are running wild. She only hears about what they have been up to on the tv. Is this the reason for the poor goverance. Is Whinney pulling her strings as well?
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:41pm
    - brett68
      
      That’s the downside of the Ardern type of PM, you’re not really the PM so get kept out of the loop.
      
      I think sometimes she forgets her role, which is where the problems come in.
      
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      January 5, 2019 5:53pm
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    brett68, and thankfully not your flimsy suppositions and guesswork!
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:59pm
- calendar girl
  
  Good comment, BeaB. But you’re much kinder to Ardern than I believe she justifies. In my view she has two characteristics which ultimately explain her inadequacies for the role of Prime Minister.
  
  Mentally Ardern lacks the required levels of inherent intelligence and formal education (Politics and Communications at Waikato, anyone?) necessary to lead a modern western Government and to manage its economic pressures and priorities.
  
  Ardern is 38 years of age, and it’s now too late (in practical terms) for her to overcome those personal shortcomings. She can survive in her current role, but she will prove to be little more than a figurehead leader of a disjointed coalition Government.
  
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  January 5, 2019 5:05pm
  - sooty
    
    Certainly not youth adjacent!
    Old saggy, baggy, mummy!
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:29pm
- Swifty
  
  Well written BeaB.
  
  Jacinda is all fur coat and no knickers – as my long deceased Grandmother used to say.
  
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  January 5, 2019 5:44pm
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Her problem is she is just not up to the rigours of the job…

And Key and the “Dipper” were? You’re joking, right?
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January 5, 2019 11:18am
- KevOB
  
  No dear.
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

Britain set for worst decade of housebuilding since WW2 … UK Centre for Policy Studies

https://www.cps.org.uk/press/press-releases/q/date/2019/01/01/britain-set-for-worst-decade-of-housebuilding-since-ww2/

… extract …

… Despite the Government’s recent efforts to boost construction, new-build housing completions in England between 2010 and 2019 are set to be approximately 130,000 per year – well below the 147,000 of the 2000s or 150,000 of the 1990s, and half of the level in the 1960s and 1970s.

The picture becomes even worse when you factor in population size. In the 1960s, the new-build construction rate in England was roughly the equivalent of one home for every 14 people over the decade. In the 2010s, that ratio was one to 43, more than three times higher. … read more via hyperlink above …
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This has been the worst decade for house-building since World War Two, and it’s all our fault … Robert Colville … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/01/has-worst-decade-house-building-since-world-war-two-fault/
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… What are the British learning from New Zealanders … check out the recently updated archival website PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
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January 5, 2019 11:18am
- Swifty
  
  Reported for linkwhoring.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:34am
Komata

BeaB

But she has a BABEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Achievement enough for some…
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January 5, 2019 11:19am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Well, she didn’t enrich herself by gambling against the New Zealand dollar, and she hasn’t ripped off the taxpayer with any housing rorts, at least as far as we know.
  
  Having a baby AND running a country is pretty impressive. That’s why she’s an international superstar.
  
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  January 5, 2019 11:41am
  - Swifty
    
    Running a country poorly is not at all impressive; neither is having a baby while doing it.
    
    Julia Gillard was once feted too – for what she was not what she’d done. Where is she now?
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:45am
    - Morrissey
      
      I despised Julia Gillard then and I despise her now.
      
      https://thestandard.org.nz/is-tonys-tenure-terminal/#comment-965266
      
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      January 5, 2019 11:58am
      - Swifty
        
        That’s it – let the hate flow through you.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:04pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You’ll find Gillard at No. 46 on this list of liars we’ve compiled over the last few years….
        
        “I have got a lot of respect for people who whistle-blow, ummm….” 
        
        https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/liars-of-our-time.html
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:07pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The only hate here is by you and your buddies, hating on a baby, for pity’s sake.
        
        We won’t even get on to the outpouring of hatred and envy of Clarke Gayford.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:14pm
      - srylands
        
        I suggest you leave New Zealand more often. The Prime Minister really is not an “international superstar”. Can you provide links to international media reports that support your assertion? Beyond those that reported her appointment or her becoming a mother?
        
        And by all means bat for your own side. But don’t make yourself look stupid. Saying that Bill English was an incompetent Minister simply makes you look ridiculous.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:35pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Bill English shopped this country round international trade fairs as a “low wage economy.” That’s worse than merely failing to do his job.
        
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        January 5, 2019 12:44pm
      - sooty
        
        Reported, link whoring!
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:43pm
      - Swifty
        
        Reported for linkwhoring.
        
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        January 5, 2019 1:46pm
  - srylands
    
    I suggest you leave New Zealand more often. The Prime Minister really is not an “international superstar”. Can you provide links to international media reports that support your assertion? Beyond those that reported her appointment or her becoming a mother?
    
    And by all means bat for your own side. But don’t make yourself look stupid. Saying that Bill English was an incompetent Minister simply makes you look ridiculous.
    
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    January 5, 2019 12:33pm
  - Komata
    
    Morressey@1141
    
    A very definite statement concerning the SLG’s ‘enrichment’ by gambling etc.
    
    How do you know she hasn’t?
    
    Are you THAT close to the SLG to be able to state what you did with such certainty?
    
    I doubt that you are, and in the absence of such ‘closeness’ there is no way to say she hasn’t in fact done so…
    
    Perhaps you can provide evidence to substantiate your claim?
    
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    January 5, 2019 2:12pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Maybe she has, Komata. I’d be interested in some evidence of that. Could be a job for our new intern, Lester Poppins.
      
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      January 5, 2019 2:31pm
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        Is that the son off Mary? edit Poppins.
        
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        January 5, 2019 5:27pm
secondcumming

Driving back to the city about an hour ago and we hear 1ZB news reporting ,
“A swarthy looking Egyptian coptic christian with a long black beard, working and living in New Zealand for the last 25 years, was jokingly called a ‘terrorist,’ by a West Auckland mechanic.” The middle-eastern immigrant went on to say, “….He’s never been treated like that before in his life!”

My missus pissed herself laughing and yelled at the radio, “Better get used to it buddy!!” 😎
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January 5, 2019 12:01pm
- kevn
  
  @sc… Top marks for the mechanic telling the (muslim really) coptic christian snowflake to just… go away with his car after being told what to do, how to do it and how much the coptic was prepared to pay.
  I got a guy do a slightly urgent welding job for me over this holiday period. It was done super promptly and I happily paid the guy 20% more than he asked for. I am welcome back anytime.
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:41pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Yep….certainly with you there Kev. Always happy to flik anybody a few extra bucks for doing something urgent for me. Can’t stand people like that muslim on the bludge for something for nothing all the time. And I now read he’s a real-estate agent ffs!
    
    To be honest, I did tone down just a little the text of what my missus yelled at the radio…..I always feel a tad uncomfortable when I hear ladies using the ‘c’ word.
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:57pm
Manolo

An uncanny similarity?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/man-accused-of-raping-goat-in-malawi-claims-he-asked-the-goat-for-permission/

Kennedy Kambani, a 21-year-old man in Malawi, Africa has been accused of raping a goat in a field.

Although Kambani was apprehended and taken to the police station and charged with bestiality, he argued he asked the goat’s permission first.
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January 5, 2019 12:15pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  yeah she was asking for it the dirty little minx with those small but ample teats.
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:42pm
  - sooty
    
    One off stephies cousins?
    
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    January 5, 2019 1:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Yet another BS report sourced from yet another BS “news” source.
  
  Gateway Pundit Trump’s favourite fake news source and their Alex Jones tie in,
  
  https://www.thedailybeast.com/infowars-and-the-gateway-pundit-slapped-with-lawsuits-for-spreading-charlottesville-conspiracies
  
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  January 5, 2019 4:44pm
  - Manolo
    
    The truth hurts, dear stephieboy.
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:30pm
Manolo

This American socialist must be of a devote follower of Michael Cullen:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-calls-for-super-wealthy-to-be-taxed-70-to-fund-green-new-deal/

Ocasio-Cortez suggests in the clip that in her esteem, people should be doing more to pay their “fair share.”

Cooper pressed on how she could possibly pay for the deal, she pointed to the progressive tax rate system in the 1960s, explaining that if you earn 0 to $75,000 a year, you would only pay 10% or 15% in income tax.

“But once you get to the tippie tops, on your $10 millionth, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60% or 70%. That doesn’t mean all $10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate. But it means that as you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more.”
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January 5, 2019 12:20pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Here is a paraphrased quote by her:
  The only difference between a billion dollars and a trillion dollars is 3 zeros, and seeing as zeros have no value, there is no extra cost.
  No shit!
  
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  January 5, 2019 12:44pm
- Jules99
  
  Ocasio-Cortez might turn out to be the biggest boost for Bitcoin in future years.
  
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  January 5, 2019 4:23pm
Hugh Pavletich

Guess where interest rates are heading globally …

UNITED STATES: 10-year yield spikes after monster beat by jobs report … CNBC

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/04/bonds-jerome-powell-to-speak-and-new-nonfarm-payrolls-due.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/
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January 5, 2019 12:42pm
- KevOB
  
  UP!
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:37pm
- kevn
  
  @hugh… Static anything just doesn’t happen. Even the weather is variable.
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:07pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Excellent comments guys … thank you !
    
    China is a different story …
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/macro-afternoon-560/#comment-3261531
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:41pm
DigNap15

South Africa has just brought in its first hourly minimum wage. (not all countries have a set minimum wage)
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January 5, 2019 1:32pm
- Johnboy
  
  Is it set at one goat per wife old chap! 🙂
  
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  January 5, 2019 1:50pm
  - DigNap15
    
    No where near that much!
    
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    January 5, 2019 2:11pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Its actually $1.40 an hour.
    
    I think that is US dollars.
    
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    January 5, 2019 3:48pm
Johnboy

You do have to luv the new Auckland based Stuff! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109748151/serious-crash-in-petone-lower-hutt
As I understand it (via Firecom) it was actually at the intersection of Regent Street and Hutt Road not at all on SH2!
They should hire me, on a huge retainer, to sort out their geographical fuckwittedness! 🙂
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January 5, 2019 1:37pm
Philview

Just read Jacinda Ardern’s speech made in Berlin last year. Interesting to review that in light of what has happened since (Migration Compact). I note her comment about “Open Borders”.

“The challenge for progressive and inclusive movements lies in delivering that sense of security, while also staying true to the notion of open borders, fair trade, international responsibility”

Open borders is a socialist construct to allow the free movement of poor people into developed countries and it sounds like Jacinda wants that here.

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/progressive-and-inclusive-growth-sharing-benefits
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January 5, 2019 2:01pm
- DigNap15
  
  Was that speech made before the COL had decided weather to sign the Compact?
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:12pm
  - Jack5
    
    The date on the Ardern speech that Philview links to is 18 April 2018. Here is the relevant paragraph about borders:
    
    “The challenge for progressive and inclusive movements lies in delivering that sense of security, while also staying true to the notion of open borders, fair trade, international responsibility and other principles that have guided a country like New Zealand for a number of years.”
    
    Thank you, Philview – that’s interesting. Has NZ had a policy of “open borders”?
    
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    January 5, 2019 3:09pm
    - Tall Man
      
      So another ardern lie then?
      
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      January 5, 2019 4:12pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Toy boy,
        
        An adern lie?
        
        Why?
        
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        January 5, 2019 4:39pm
kevn

@Phil… JA is turning out to be dangerous for NZ. Her marxism/comrade leaning is really showing. Aided by that smart arsed whinney one.
Sorry NZ.
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January 5, 2019 2:06pm
- lilman
  
  Cindy has many weaknesses but her main one is her dishonesty.
  If she lies, she commits to it and thats her undoing,she hasnt the capacity to leave wiggle room or the memory to ensure the narrative is narrow and manageable.
  
  Also she is thick as a bag of sand.
  
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  January 5, 2019 6:14pm
wiseowl

Her UN agenda for open borders needs to be fought tooth and nail.
No borders, no country.
None of our politicians have a mandate to open our country up to allcomers.
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January 5, 2019 2:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  dumbowl , there is no agenda for our country to have open borders!
  
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  January 5, 2019 5:01pm
  - Komata
    
    SB
    
    Since when did your heroine need an agenda?
    
    Impromptue, unresearched decisions made on the hoof is the only way she knows; at which point she then starts screaming ‘BAYBEEEEEEEE’ when the heat becomes too much.
    
    With that distraction made she then vanishes to ‘places unknown’ while the MSM ignore the damage she’s just created…
    
    In such situations, ‘Lawn mowing’ is said to be quite thereputic…
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:15pm
- Philview
  
  Wiseowl, have you read the overview of NZ’s proposed FTA with the EU. We are preparing to handover a lot of sovereignty.
  
  “Progressive means an agreement that sets a global benchmark on social and environmental priorities – like climate change, gender equality, indigenous rights, labour standards and sustainable and inclusive economic growth.”
  
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  January 5, 2019 5:25pm
Komata

Wiseowl

But the NZ MSM will never hold her to account, much less actually DO some of their much-vaunted ‘Investigative reporting’.

Oh that it was not so…

And as for Simon?

He seems to actually SUPPORT the idea (although I’ll be quite happy to be proven otherwise).
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January 5, 2019 2:21pm
- nasska
  
  …..”National would pull New Zealand out of the UN’s Global Compact on Migration because of its potential to restrict New Zealand’s ability to set its own migration and foreign policy, National Leader Simon Bridges says.”……
  
  https://www.national.org.nz/national_would_pull_nz_out_of_un_migration_pact
  
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  January 5, 2019 2:32pm
  - Komata
    
    nasska
    
    Thank you, but based on past performances (the ‘Smacking’ law comes to mind),, when push comes to shove he will do nothing, contruct some ‘reasonable’ excuse and leave things be.
    
    In such situations actions DO speak louder than words and unfortunately, Simon (as with his immediate predecessors in the NZ National Party), seems more inclined to ‘leave things alone’ rather than rock the boat…
    
    I have my doubts that he will do anything.
    
    It’s not for nothing that the ‘Nats are known as ‘Labour Lite’.
    
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    January 5, 2019 3:26pm
  - stephieboy
    
    “potentially” to restricts NZ ability to set…??
    
    How so given also the security council’s inability to act unilaterally with members power of veto etc.
    
    How will the Migration Pact actually ensure that we will not be able to ever set our own migration goals?
    
    It’s an aspirational goal, not an executive order from on high trampling on our rights as a nation.
    
    One of the best pieces of advice from one poster here suggesting that Western nations stay of Middle Eastern affairs then we won’t have a migration crises in the first place!
    
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    January 5, 2019 4:34pm
    - simpleton1
      
      At the Morocco migration conference, the 164 countries expected to sign were asked if there were any issues with the pact.
      New Zealand declined to raise any concerns , and the motion was passed that all the participating countries, including New Zealand, have now adopted the UN Migration Pact. Applause followed the motion. (https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1393871427514/)
      
      Germany’s chancellor Angela Merkel immediately following the conference, stated, “So then, during the UN General Assembly next week, the pact will once again be up for debate and a decision will be made on whether to accept it. At this time a member state can demand a vote. When two-thirds of the represented countries agree then it is valid for all. That’s how majority decision-making works.”
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnX6uBFySEY&feature=youtu.be
      
      It seems that it is binding, “when the switch is turned on” and NZ has not made any caveats, or special arrangements to maintain sovereignty, when the it becomes binding.
      
      That means that our judiciary system will have to follow these guidelines or appeals will go to the UN which already has this agreement.
      
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      January 5, 2019 10:22pm
KH

Heres one for DF. I would love to see him post it and follw the comments
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12183767
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January 5, 2019 3:58pm
dcrown

This shut-down just keeps getting better & better!
Not only have 25% of government workers (read democrat voters) been furloughed but now the left-wing bludgers will be deprived of their hand-outs, spectacular!

Chuck and Nancy are so stupid they don’t even realize that their actions are playing right into the hands of classical liberals.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423988-shutdown-may-jeopardize-tax-refunds-food-stamps-report
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January 5, 2019 5:02pm
- holysheet
  
  What is about all these Chucks? the yanks have a weapons grade fuckwit in their Chuck, while ours is just an ordinary one.
  Any time we see Schumer on the TV he’s got that stupid lop sided grimace that shows how stupid he is. Looks like he fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.
  
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  January 5, 2019 5:20pm
  - dcrown
    
    Not sure, Chuck Norris ain’t so bad though?
    
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    January 5, 2019 5:38pm
EAD_THREE

51 year old man stabbed to death in front of his 14 year old son by a cultural enricher from Africa.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6558137/Passenger-stabbed-death-board-train-Guildford-London.html

A boy of just 14 losing his father right in front of his own eyes, stabbed to death by some low life invader.

I will restrain from saying what I really think but this makes my blood boil no end. I am literally biting my tongue as I type as I watch this long tragedy unfold against my people as incidents like this become more frequent as the Great Replacement escalates.

The day of the rope can’t come soon enough.
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January 5, 2019 5:52pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD THREE , all we have as a man dressed in black, short hair and a beard.
  
  Well, we can safely say he is not a Jew. What makes you certain he is from Africa and not locally born?
  
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  January 5, 2019 6:19pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    What makes you certain he is from Africa and not locally born?
    
    Stephieboy – the stabbed could be born anywhere but one thing I am certain of is that judging by the randomness and brutality of the attack, the fact it with with a knife and during working hours means I will pay you odds of 1/100 if he is not Black.
    
    The law of averages mean something.
    
    A mouse born in a stable is not horse.
    
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    January 5, 2019 6:24pm
  - DigNap15
    
    The police and the article and a witness said he is a black man.
    It really is time to expel all this scum from Western countries.
    What possible use are they except as football players.
    
    Think of all the crime that would not be committed.
    
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    January 5, 2019 6:46pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @stephieboy
    If you had bothered to read the link provided, you would have come across this sentence:
    
    The suspect, who police think was not known to the victim, is described as a black man in his twenties to thirties, is approximately 6ft tall, with a slim build and beard, dressed all in black with white trainers.
    
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    January 5, 2019 6:58pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”If you had bothered to read the link”…..
      
      But that would take time & comprehension skills he doesn’t possess. Far easier to respond with an inane question or recite some boilerplate Marxist crap.
      
      Anything to derail comment considered dangerous to the cause.
      
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      January 5, 2019 7:22pm
      - Swifty
        
        Yes, that was asking a bit much.
        
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        January 5, 2019 7:31pm
      - nasska
        
        If anyone ever gets bored enough to read a few of his comments they’ll recognise them as textbook Alinsky:
        
        The Rules
        
        1) “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”
        2) “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
        3) “Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
        4) “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
        5) “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
        6) “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
        7) “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
        8) “Keep the pressure on.”
        9) “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
        10) “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
        11) “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside”
        12) “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
        13) “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
        
        If anyone thinks stephieboy has anything to offer the forum they’re deluded. There’s not an original thought in his repertoire.
        
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        January 5, 2019 7:42pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, you might be correct but what makes you certain he is from Africa and not born in the UK?
      
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      January 5, 2019 7:45pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’n not certain of anything as to his origins.
        I’ve never stated that I was…
        I don’t care about what colour folks are, like you and EAD do.
        
        I’m just pointing out that if you had read the link, you might have had better grounds to debate with EAD.
        
        If you had ever read and understood anything I wrote, you would realise that its violence and abuse and those who try to excuse violence that is my concern.
        
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        January 5, 2019 7:53pm
      - Swifty
        
        Are you for real Stiffy?
        
        Maggy made to assertions about anything – she merely quoted from the article.
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:09pm
      - Jack5
        
        卐EADolf in his 5.52 post talks about “my people.”
        
        What does that remind you of, 卐EADolf ? The song of black American slaves about Jews?
        
        When Israel was in Egypt’s land,
        Let My people go!
        Oppressed so hard they could not stand,
        Let My people go!
        
        Go down, Moses,
        Way down in Egypt’s land;
        Tell old Pharaoh
        To let My people go!
        
        https://youtu.be/SP5EfwBWgg0
        
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        January 5, 2019 8:21pm
  - Manolo
    
    @stephieboy: You love and have empathy towards Africans, don’t you?
    
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    January 5, 2019 7:59pm
- EAD_THREE
  
  The future for White people everywhere is South Africa or Brazil. This is a serious betrayal of our future descendants. We need a return to explicit White European advocacy. Self-preservation is a moral imperative. There’s nothing we want that we don’t grant every other race.
  
  So transcend the brainwashing, smash through every taboo which has been carefully laid out to ensnare you, mock the weaponised words your enemies will use to try and intimidate and demonise you, and embrace the White identity politics which is the one thing, the only thing, that can save Western Civilisation.
  
  Enough is enough.
  
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  January 5, 2019 6:33pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD THREE,
    
    “We need a return to explicit White European advocacy. Self-preservation is a moral imperative”
    
    Been there, done that,
    
    https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/article_image/baha-apartheid-signage_0.jpg
    
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    January 5, 2019 7:46pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Are you a dab hand at burning crosses too EAD?
    
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    January 5, 2019 11:03pm
Brito

Back briefly to see how things are. It’s so good to see that the right is being represented by such deep thinkers… that’s sarcasm for ‘fuck me gently”!!
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January 5, 2019 7:11pm
Monique Watson

The trash is piling up in Yosemite and there’s some gentle bitching but no real concern. Who really gives a fuck about some slider wrappers and paper towel cores. The trash is pretty inert due to it being Winter in Yosemite.
I give the Government shutdown two more weeks and Trump gets $3 Bill for the wall.
Maggy can you give me another word or phrase for ‘inert’ in the context?
Pelosi does not have a winning hand in this game.
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January 5, 2019 7:47pm
Swifty

Since Stiffy was too busy earlier today with indigestion to have a go – perhaps we might attempt to identify his ’12 Rules for Life’, as Prof Peterson has done.

I’ll start:

1. When caught in a lie, run away, and then come back later and deny you ever said it in the first place.

2. When you are losing a debate, tell your opponent that he/she is a follower of someone of ill-repute – even though you have absolutely no evidence of this.

3. When you are feeling down about your failed life – log on to internet forums and adopt the guise of a virtuous social justice warrior to make yourself feel better. Better still, mock, hector, stalk and harass other posters and then claim victim status when it’s thrown back on you.

4. When on a perv mission at your favourite mall, wear dark glasses so that your leering will be hidden from those you covet.

5…….?
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January 5, 2019 8:06pm
- stephieboy
  
  Try this re ” Professor “Petersen,
  
  Jordan Peterson’s Flimsy Philosophy of Life
  
  Peterson’s claims about morality, reality, and the meaning of life are dubious.
  
  Jordan B. Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life is on the bestseller lists, despite the commonplace nature of his rules, which boil down to: stand up for yourself, take care of yourself, make friends, don’t compare yourself to others, mind your children, set your house in order, pursue meaning, tell the truth, listen to people, be precise, give children freedom, and enjoy pets. Part of Peterson’s appeal comes through lively stories from the Bible, fairy tales, his personal life, and his practice as a clinical psychologist.
  
  But many people take Peterson to be wise, not just entertaining, with profound things to say about the nature of morality, reality, and life. These are philosophical topics, so we can ask how well Peterson’s views stand up to philosophical scrutiny…”
  
  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201802/jordan-peterson-s-flimsy-philosophy-life
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:01pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, I read that when you posted it earlier today.
    
    What would be your rules Stiffy?
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:06pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Swifty, definitely not yours which actually are in contradiction to the very things Petersen advocates!
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:18pm
      - Swifty
        
        I wouldn’t know, I’ve never read his rules.
        
        I’m more interested in yours. You put yourself up as an expert on everything.
        
        What would, say, the first three be?
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:24pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Shall we begin with rule no 1 No resorting to personal abuse like you frequently do on KB!
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:30pm
      - Swifty
        
        How would you define frequently?
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:31pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Just count how many times you’ve called me “Stiffy” thoughtfully and considerately?
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:42pm
      - Swifty
        
        But hang on, I learnt to modify posters’ user names from you – you do it all the time.
        
        Why is it ok for you to do it but not me?
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Maggy can you give me another word or phrase for ‘inert’ in the context?

Hahaha…
Oh, the bugs are slumbering…
waiting for a bit of warmth

Inert suggests inactive, dead, dormant.

Try quiescent.
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January 5, 2019 8:07pm
Jack5

Hundreds of police turn out to racism protests in Melbourne.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/opposing-race-protesters-and-police-converge-on-st-kilda-foreshore-20190105-p50pr1.html
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January 5, 2019 8:10pm
dirty harry

“Around 100 far-right extremists have turned up to “discuss” Melbourne’s crime issues”

Far right extremists lol..MSM farting out of their mouths again. Scum.
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January 5, 2019 8:23pm
Odakyu-sen

When “Say no to racism” = “Prevent the free discussion of concerns” then someone is wiring down a safety valve because they feel triggered by the hissing.

The pressure will build…

…The outcome will be far worse than if people could talk about what was on their mind in the first place.
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January 5, 2019 8:35pm
- nasska
  
  All sheep are eventually led to slaughter.
  
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  January 5, 2019 8:50pm
  - stephieboy
    
    No, some a bred for their wool!
    
    Odakyu sen, when you say ” yes to racism” what then?
    
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    January 5, 2019 8:58pm
    - pentwig
      
      in your case stoopidthing
      it is obviously perversion as you self describe
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:10pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”No, some a bred for their wool”….
      
      Some are bred with the emphasis on wool but few die of old age. An old broken mouthed merino isn’t buried with honours but sent to the works while it still has some carcass value.
      
      Just like the comrades put against the wall & shot when they can offer less value to the socialist state than the food required to keep them alive..
      
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      January 5, 2019 9:17pm
      - stephieboy
        
        nasska are referring to Jacinda’s,”socialist state” now operating or the one that was in name only?
        
        https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/nazi-party
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        …..”No, some a bred for their wool”….
        
        @ Nasska,
        
        are you seriously telling me that when we had 60 million baa-lambs frolicking over our green and pleasant hills, they all didn’t end up in the Bremworth Carpet Retirement Paddock for the indigent and infirm?
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:35pm
      - nasska
        
        I wanted to tell GoVege but I just didn’t have the heart to go through with it! 🙂
        
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        January 5, 2019 9:38pm
Pharmachick

So what does one do when one’s been gone from NZ for a long time, feels hopeless and can’t even get it together anymore? It’s all cool to run with the big dogs, until you think that maybe you’re a little dog after all. And shit.

Asking for a friend.
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January 5, 2019 9:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Some little dogs are cute.
  Little dogs don’t stink as much as big dogs.
  Little dogs can snap at heels.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:44pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Little dogs can snap at heels.”…..
    
    And little dogs can travel immense distances when propelled by a steel cap boot.
    
    Large dogs……less so. 🙂
    
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    January 5, 2019 9:50pm
- nasska
  
  There’s a quaint old saying along the lines of “only a rat can win a rat race”.
  
  Might be time for your friend to scratch themselves from the race & live their life instead.
  
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  January 5, 2019 9:48pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Where are you in the world harma I tell you what. Little dogs can save your life. My Chiweenie (Mexican Sausagedog was a great comfort when my Nana in NZ dies in 216 I still had to go through shit. Bide your time and as I tell my kids and rehab friends. Never believe your luck has run out.
  
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  January 6, 2019 3:23am
stoptheboats

I must say it’s nice not to have rc crap comments on KB for now – even better how can we get the gormless stephie kicked off too?
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January 5, 2019 11:08pm
stoptheboats

And Hugh pavlova needs to stick with interest.co
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January 5, 2019 11:10pm
stoptheboats

Stephie comments here at 8.14am and is still trolling at 9.21pm !
DPF Surely that’s breach of privilege?
This is a serious blog site I thought…

WO boss had a stroke a few weeks ago ,poor chap, which explains nil posts there
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January 5, 2019 11:17pm
- dirty harry
  
  Fat oil + stroke = karma.
  
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  January 6, 2019 7:42am
- DigNap15
  
  Stephie is a 24/7 business, run by a team of Labour trolls.
  
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  January 13, 2019 3:37pm
rangitoto

Tweet of the Day from Maca:

“I want to take illicit drugs”.
NZ govt: “Yes, go ahead! You can make your own life choices.”

“Ok cool! Can I use a plastic bag to go shopping?”
NZ govt: “Are you crazy? Taking drugs is one thing but plastic bags!? We’re not maniacs.”
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