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dirty harry

Not my PM.
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January 2, 2019 8:02am
- igm
  
  dirty harry: These are the types that recognise the harridan as PM:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/109689980/three-stabbed-in-new-years-eve-attack-at-manchester-train-station
  Even Winnie is now accepting them with open arms.
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:05am
  - Longknives
    
    The Manchester Cops subdued that Muslim with Taser and Pepper Spray.
    Astounding they didn’t just put some rounds in his chest….
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:21am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      I’m sure the Manchester police ensured both taser and pepper spray were halal certified.
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:26am
      - Longknives
        
        Unreal that after what happened at the Manchester Arena that their Police Force isn’t permanently carrying firearms.
        I guess Political Correctness is more important than the safety of kids…
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:30am
      - dirty harry
        
        May basically says nothing to see here, everyone is safe, carry on, as you were.
        Wakey wakey you stupid bint.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:32am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I wonder if it is possible to get pork flavoured pepper spray?
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:31am
      - sooty
        
        If the cops were issued a perment fire arm they could rub the bullets in pig fat! That’ll teach um!
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:35am
    - igm
      
      Longknives: You are so correct, it should be mandatory — how dare they waste tasers and pepper spray!
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:30am
    - kowtow
      
      Personchester…..
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:13am
      - dirty harry
        
        Theychester..?
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:50am
    - Morrissey
      
      A few generations back, that would have read:
      
      The Munich Cops subdued that Jew with Truncheon and Pepper Spray.
      Astounding they didn’t just put some rounds in his chest….
      
      Shame on you, Longknives.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:31am
      - Longknives
        
        What the…Morrissey?
        You are aware that the guy was stabbing people right??
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:01am
      - Morrissey
        
        I was indeed, Longknives. My objection to your post was due to its incendiary tone, which was exactly like the sort of “accounts” of police actions against Jewish criminals which appeared in the German press in the 1920s and ’30s.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:10am
      - harvey wilson
        
        False equivalency the fallback of the left when they don’t have a valid point to make.
        
        Weird to see Morrissey playing the Jew card , I guess in his oppression olympics the opportunity to play the Nazi card trumps the Zionist card.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:19am
      - Morrissey
        
        You’re out of your depth, Mr Wilson.
        
        Now, tell me about that girlfriend of yours….
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:39am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Morrisey , thats about your sixth post this morning creepily talking about women. No wonder you feel such an affinity with Assange.
        
        But thanks all the same for proving my point about false equivalency.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:56am
  - Scott
    
    Yes it’s amazing to me that this is accepted as the new normal. We’ll have Muslims stabbing, bombing and shooting our people a number of times a year but we will accept this and try to move on as quickly as possible.
    
    As I said yesterday what if a christian group such as Baptists were doing this? There would be a parliamentary commission of enquiry. The police would swoop on Baptist leaders and arrest them and hold them in solitary confinement. Their assets would be frozen. Churches would be shut down. Parliament would pass a suppression of Baptists act. The authorities would move heaven and earth to stop it.
    
    But because of political correctness where Muslims are seen as victims of racism virtually nothing is done.
    
    The British government should deport radical imams, rescind citizenship of troublemakers, close down radical mosques. They should ask themselves – can we cope with more Muslim immigration?
    We are watching a way of life destroyed because the British government will not stand up for the British people and the British way of life.
    We must make sure the same doesn’t happen here.
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:57am
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      As I said yesterday what if a christian group such as Baptists were doing this?
      
      Uh, duh-uh, a Christian (you don’t give Christ a capital letter?) group such as Roman Catholics were doing this in the UK only a few decades ago. I was in London as a kid in 1976 and the possibility of a terrorist attack by Irish Catholics was very much on people’s minds. At no point did the Police swoop on Catholic leaders to arrest them and hold them in solitary confinement. That’s because the UK isn’t a fascist state. You may be disappointed about that fact, but it remains a fact.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:05am
      - Inandout
        
        Didn’t the IRA generally pre warn of a bomb?
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:13am
      - kowtow
        
        A slight difference.
        
        The IRA were not doing their terror in the name of or on behalf of or inspired by religion. Had they been then churches ,seminaries etc would have been the target of the police ,MI5 military etc.
        
        There’s a reason why across the world when these outrages take place ,the perpetrators shout , “Allahu Akbar”
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:18am
      - stephieboy
        
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        kowtow, you must know that religion and nationalism then ( both Catholic and Protestant ) were inseparable and still remains so among many ( like you)
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:29am
      - Viking2
        
        Well not everyday!
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:39am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        It’s a very slight difference. The conflict in Northern Ireland was about religion as well as politics, and Islamic terrorism is about politics as well as religion. The relative extents to which they’re about those things are trivial.
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:40am
      - GazzaW
        
        I was in London in the 70s and no you couldn’t rely on the IRA to give warnings. Our favourite restaurant was one of many that had netting across its windows to reduce the risk of a hand grenade being lobbed in from the street, bag searches were widespread along with other basic precautions. Bear in mind this was before the days of surveillance of the widespread use of cameras, drones and helicopters.
        
        Generally though the Londoners went about their business totally unpeturbed.
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:20am
      - Tall Man
        
        I was in the UK as an adult so probably have a better memory than you, also I’m not a left wing nutter and I can assure you that any connection between the IRA and religion was coincidental. Most of the nutter Irishmen I met were pure and simple anarchists and hated religion as much as the British.
        
        I used the word “simple” deliberately.
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:47am
      - kowtow
        
        inandout
        
        Warnings.
        
        Please don’t give the cunts any credit for phoning in warnings .
        
        At one stage of their terror campaign they had a very deliberate policy of trying to destroy the economy of NI. That’s one aspect of the numerous car bombs in city and town centres all over the Six Counties.
        
        The target was literally the economy . Now if you’re bombing town and city centres and claiming to be waging a legitimate war against “British occupation” while at the same time indiscriminately killing and maiming members of the “nationalist” community that you are claiming to represent ,what sort of reaction would there be from their own “community” , from across the border in the south and also very importantly , from your donors in the United States?
        
        They gave warnings in their own interests alone .Let’s not pretend they gave a shit about anyone other than themselves.
        
        And to go back the PCness of the British ruling elites …….instead of killing these cruel mindless fucks they have put them in power in NI!
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:42am
      - kowtow
        
        PMilt
        
        No the differences are very far from being trivial.
        
        The violent tradition of republican nationalism in Ireland is philosophically non sectarian.
        
        That’s why they place so much emphasis on the United Irishmen and 1798.
        
        More recently the leadership of the republican movement has moved to the far left and they are actually more Marxist than anything else , again they point to history and claim to be part of the Connolly tradition .
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:56am
      - rockape
        
        I was in NI as a platoon commander, It was far more about drugs and patch protection in the name of religion than for anything else.
        
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        January 2, 2019 2:36pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Ever wondered why there are no rubbish tins in the London tube stations PM?
        
        And rockape – thank you for your service. It cannot have been nice.
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:24pm
      - MickMac
        
        Psycho
        THE IRA was a bunch of thugs who ran theft, standover, ghost worker crimes for an income.
        
        It was more about the power and translating that into dollars than nationalism.
        
        Anyone who spent time in NI soon found that out.
        Now they help rort the place.
        The British could’ve killed all the Sgts rank and up in the RA, they knew them, tracked them and at times targetted them, but NOT to win.
        Thank USA for that.
        
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        January 3, 2019 2:38pm
    - Viking2
      
      The British Govt. soon to be all Muslims anyway.
      
      How long before they have Muslim PM.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:38am
      - GazzaW
        
        Not likely in the near future Viking but given that there are twelve Labour Muslim MPs and just three Conservatives you can anticipate which political hue that future PM will be.
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:30am
      - VicParking
        
        They said that about the London Mayor’ship a few years ago……Anyone for a knife fight
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:00pm
    - igm
      
      Why is it that lowlife leeches and losers of society always jump to defend these filthy murderous unwanted rug pilot bastards?
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:04am
    - Paulus
      
      I think I heard that he was a Somalian refugee.
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:21pm
- Paulus
  
  No – Winstons !
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:10am
- oldpark
  
  @dirty harry.
  Yes lest wee forget and a message for all NZs in 2019. NZs PM is just a clone of a wee ratbag called Peters. He pulls the strings and the small town twerp dances to his bidding.
  The scary bit is now that he has installed Commie Chic Comrade Ardern and the far left Lunatic Misandrist Green Party in NZs chaotic Government. Evidence is starting to show that clown Peters and Peters Party will be also rans at the next election.
  Even if an election was held today Peters and Peters Party would not be needed by Lie-bour/Green sickos. The mentioned would reign supreme over NZedders. Would hasten NZ mad dash to be the Socialist Republic of South Pacific.
  With that prediction,we should be afraid,very afraid.
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:33am
  - Biscuit
    
    oldpark, and can you picture Whale Oil come the next election?
    
    ‘Vote Winston to keep Labour and the Greens honest!’
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:43am
    - oldpark
      
      Biscuit,the suspected ebola infested mentioned threesome,between them have unilateraly closed down NZs oil and gas exploration in New Plymouth,affecting thousands of hardworking NZs and a loss of at least Ten Billion Dollars in due course . All because of the myth of so called global warming that might affect NZ in say 2200. How about the here and now for NZs who are already endeavouring to live their lives and raise their families. Nuff said.
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:58am
    - rockape
      
      Not sure who will last longer Whaleoil or Winston.
      
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      January 2, 2019 2:37pm
  - kevn
    
    @oldpark… Yes, what a circus govt we have.
    Sorry NZ.
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:27am
- Harkman
  
  Is the #MeToo appropriate in this instance? ?
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:59am
- Morrissey
  
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  Yes she is. Until 2026 at the very earliest.
  
  Deal with it, you sad sack.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:15am
  - Morrissey
    
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    Two bitter National Party diehards have downvoted this. How sad.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:28am
    - Tall Man
      
      Bitter?
      
      You are the epitome of bitter and irrelevant.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:51am
      - Morrissey
        
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        So the moronic and deluded “not my P.M.” grumblers are the epitome of sweetness and light, are they?
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:54am
      - starboard
        
        Poor wee morris…no ones listening..
        hahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahaha!
        Tool.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:57am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Correction:
      Two (now 21) sensible middle of the road New Zealanders have downvoted the rantings of a lefty lunatic.
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:38am
      - Morrissey
        
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        You old pervert. Keep an eye out next time and make sure it’s an actual female you pick up.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:40am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Happy new year Morrisey, she might be lucky and get another term but I doubt she will get to three terms before either Labour or their coalition partners implode.
    
    You know it too, Winston Peters is the reverse Midas, everything he touches turns to shit eventually.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:30am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Jesus Morrisey , I just checked the mouth of madness aka your blog and you’ve reposted about 100 comments from a standard rant from two years ago arguing over whether or not the Mad Butcher is a racist.
      
      Your new years resolution was clearly not to get a life.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:33am
      - Biscuit
        
        Indeed, harveywilson.
        
        I TRY to consider the other guy’s point of view but when Morrisey delves (say) into deeming Butch (who I have never met( a racist – it is very hard not to just give up on him.
        
        He might, just as easily, say I am a ‘beater’.
        
        Probably WILL, now!
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:45am
      - Morrissey
        
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        He’s a racist, all right. The other day some fool here posted up something praising the talentless old fuck, so I dug up the furore he’d caused with some ignorant comments on Waiheke Island a couple of years ago.
        
        Then I put ’em on my blog, as I should have done at the time.
        
        And, yes, I’ve got a great life, thanks. (Ask your wife.)
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:57am
      - Morrissey
        
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        He might, just as easily, say I am a ‘beater’. Probably WILL, now!
        
        No, Biscuit—and May You Never Walk Alone—I would not write that about you because I have no evidence of that whatsoever.
        
        The Sad Butcher, OTOH, has a history of making stupid and offensive remarks about Polynesians, Māori, and women. He was also a defiant supporter of Tony “Bootboy” Veitch after the revelations he’d crippled his fiancée.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:02am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Morrisey you are welcome to spend as much time with my wife as you want at your peril.
        
        My girlfriend on the other hand would have nothing to do with an odious creature like you.
        
        It must irk you that such a talentless old man as Leitch managed to amass such a fortune. If you weren’t so consumed by jealousy by that do you think what he said two years ago would matter to you so much? Socialism and envy, more permanent bedfellows than you and my ex.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:03am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Will 2019 be the year that Morrisey finally applies the same level of scrutiny to Assange as he does to other alleged sex offenders?
        
        Here’s hoping, those two victims will never see justice and in fact one has had to go into hiding . Perhaps in 2019 the left will stop tying themselves in knots and actually #believewomen when it comes to them too.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:10am
      - Morrissey
        
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        Your remarks about Assange are nothing more than state-sponsored black propaganda, i.e., a pack of lies.
        
        My comments on Peter Leitch are irrefutable, unless you can find a way to show us he did not say the things he said.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:19am
      - harvey wilson
        
        And yet Assanges victim says otherwise.
        
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/julian-assange-rape-victim-elisabeth-fritz-sweden-drop-investigation-wikileaks-stockholm-british-a7744741.html
        
        #believewomen
        
        #metoo
        
        Except when the alleged rapist a hero to the left obviously.
        
        2019, another year Morrissey smeared alleged rape victims as liars . What is that now eight years and counting? History is going to judge the likes of Morrisey very very harshly.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:23am
      - realityczech
        
        “My comments on Peter Leitch are irrefutable”
        
        Mozzie, so if an angry white nationalist told a Maori he could “do what he liked as its his country” and the Maori responed ” its our country too” you would put the Maori on your hate site as being racist?
        
        If not, then explain the double standard?
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Happy New Year, Morrissey Breen. May you have another 3600 happy hours of monitoring radio in 2019. I hope your Maori lessons are coming along so you can add to your listening list the 20 tribal radio stations.
        
        It’s time to re-publish your Gropers list, Morrissey, so we can see how impartial you are. Or perhaps you could start it as the first of an annual series.
        
        Do you have an entry for the “as-yet-unnamed Labour youth conference groper?
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:37am
      - Biscuit
        
        Morrissey, this is replying to your 11.02am post. (DPF’s system won’t let me reply directly to it…)
        
        Thank for the advice you won’t be calling me a beater, heh heh.
        
        But you see my point, right? Once someone IS accused of something like that, it is extremely difficult to fully ‘clear’ one’s name.
        
        I just Googled ‘Leitch racism’ and the only story that came up was re that Waiheke Island incident in 2017 where he made the perfectly-valid point to a person claiming she was tangata whenua that ‘(Waiheke Island) was a white man’s island too.’
        
        I might very well have said the same thing – and likely in the apparently-jocular manner in which TMB (claims he) did.
        
        I read this story:
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/321774/'it-doesn-t-feel-very-casual-if-it-happens-to-you'-devoy
        
        Sorry to inflict Ms Devoid on you this early into a New Year but the whole thing had ‘beat up’ written all over it.
        
        I, too, was disappointed that Sir Peter ‘supported’ his mate Tony Veitch, DEFINITELY a ‘beater’ … but that IS what friends do. Me, if Tony Veitch caught fire, I would immediately hasten to buy a postage stamp for the ‘Send help!’ letter I’d send to the Fire Service…
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:18pm
    - harvey wilson
      
      Jack5, that is in fact the third labour groper at a grooming camp. They successfully covered the other two up.
      
      #labourpartyrapeculture
      
      #metoolabour
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:58am
  - Tall Man
    
    And so begins the daily does of stupid from someone who exists purely to be a pest.
    
    By all means express an opinion but you should refrain utter stupidity until a bit later in the day when we’ve all had a couple of drinks to cushion the grating of your posts.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:50am
    - harvey wilson
      
      He posts to take the focus off his own horrific existence.
      
      It’s an unfortunate feature of the activist left, their own lives are disastrous and to actually focus on their own poor life choices and dull grinding future would be soul destroying. Hence the need to act out.
      
      See also Muttonbird.
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:26am
      - starboard
        
        morris has run away again with his little noodle between his legs..bawhahahaha. How embarrassing for morris, all skin and no sausage.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:26pm
      - harvey wilson
        
        I see some of Morrisseys creepy comments where he discussed how he wanted to “Assange” other posters wives and girlfriends have been deleted.
        
        Interesting how his new years resolution appears to have been to stop hiding his creepiness and display it for all to see.
        
        He’s probably off to see if Rebel sport have swiss balls on sale.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:36pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I see some of Morrisseys creepy comments where he discussed how he wanted to “Assange” other posters wives and girlfriends have been deleted.
        
        Not a problem, harv. Just click on the following….
        http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/01/a-grumbler-writes-not-my-pm-and-kicks.html
        
        Interesting how his new years [sic] resolution appears to have been to stop hiding his creepiness and display it for all to see.
        
        Jeez, harv, it was a JOKE.
        
        He’s probably off to see if Rebel sport have swiss balls on sale.
        
        What would I want a swi—- OH, I SEE! Ha ha ha ha ha! You old rapscallion, harv!
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:08pm
      - harvey wilson
        
        Apologies Morrissey I thought they had deleted your comments channelling your inner Assange.
        
        You of course got the swiss ball reference from when you added Darren Hughes to your list of gropers obviously…..
        
        …..he is on your list of gropers isn’t he?
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:43pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Thanks Biscuit. You make your points very well indeed.
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:19pm
  - Than
    
    Hahahahahahaha!!! Thanks Morissey, a good laugh is always a great way to start one’s day.
    
    This corrupt disgrace of a government has almost no chance of winning re-election. Actually, let me correct that – it wouldn’t be re-election, because they weren’t actually elected the first time. They shamelessly bought their way into power with baubles.
    
    But with NZ First almost certain to be gone next election (and the Greens far from certain to return) that option won’t be open to them. They will actually have to persuade a majority of New Zealanders that they are fit to govern. And given the economic damage their lunatic policies will have inflicted by then, that’s going to be a tough sell.
    
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    January 3, 2019 5:29am
- Dave Stringer
  
  J. Edger Hoover reincarnated as Graham Henry, or just his twin?
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Graham_Henry_28_March_2011_Twickenham.jpg
  
  https://goo.gl/images/iAhRux
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:44am
  - Tall Man
    
    You’d expect him to be better at finding “bugs” then wouldn’t you….
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:53am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  You need to keep repeating this for the next 8 years.
  
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  January 2, 2019 11:58am
holysheet

In this day and age of suspect drugs, you would need to be a fucking dumb arse to try them. Yet we see dumb arses are living amongst us now in a town near you. Rhythm and Vines was especially loaded with them this week. If it only affected them that would be okay, but when they get taken to hospital and emergency services spend tax payers money to save them it’s not okay.
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January 2, 2019 8:02am
- DigNap15
  
  Kind of agree.
  But find the guys selling that stuff and shoot them.
  That will save lots of tax payer money.
  
  But its a Health Issue!
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:04am
  - holysheet
    
    This bunch of losers we have for a govt will make ACC pay for them soon. Taking contaminated drugs must be a accident, right?????
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:21am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Why wouldn’t it be an accident?
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:40am
      - dirty harry
        
        Another mouth fart from mikemild.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:52am
      - mikenmildagain
        
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        Kia ora, starboard. Kei te pehea koe?
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:54am
      - calendar girl
        
        Perhaps because deliberately consuming illegal drugs is a crime (as opposed to an accident)?
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:18am
      - Viking2
        
        calendar girl
        
        Perhaps because deliberately consuming illegal drugs is a crime (as opposed to an accident)?
        
        So is breaking the speed limit so you would suggest we lock up and or shoot everyone that does that?
        
        2019 seems to continue with the same brainless thinking that so many tried to infest upon us after they failed last year control others.
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:44am
      - calendar girl
        
        There are obviously degrees of criminal seriousness, and yes – driving over the speed limit is breaking the established law. But who’s talking of locking people up or shooting them? Only you, as far as I can tell.
        
        My sole point is that deliberately and knowingly consuming illegal drugs, and coming to harm as a result of doing so, is not what I regard as an ‘accident’.
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:04am
    - realityczech
      
      To be fair, not everyone attending has the money, and connections to the Hells Angels, to get the good drugs.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:25am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘But its a Health Issue!’
    
    True that. Lead behind the ear has, to date, proved to be incurable.
    
    On the bright side, the ‘patient’ feels nothing.
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:37am
- Longknives
  
  Rhythm and Vines is a cesspit of drugs, sleazy DJs and shitty techno music- Always has been.
  Amazing that our supposed Prime Minister thinks this is ‘her crowd’
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11967762
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:28am
  - VicParking
    
    Our PM DJ’s while the road toll Burns.
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:41am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Julie Ann Genderless is working hard to fix it bro. Chill and have a beer!
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:59am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Still bitter that you’re not one of the in crowd?
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:41am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It is a very mono-cultural ‘in crowd’.
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:44am
      - mikenmildagain
        
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        Sure, Longknives is renowned for his interest in, and sympathy for, other cultures.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:51am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m glad to hear it.
        You can’t but be struck that the R&V kids are rich/ comfortably-off white kids when they all roll into/ fly into Gisborne.
        Quite a contrast to the usual mix that inhabits this district.
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:04am
    - JibberJabber
      
      LoL, gotta be one of the saddest “in-crowds” to be in tho`.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:11am
    - realityczech
      
      Milky, by “in crowd” you are referring to the PM’s links to the murky underworld of drugs ?
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:23am
      - stephieboy
        
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        rc, must be hard to remove yourself from fantasy land?
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:31am
      - Tall Man
        
        “must be hard to remove yourself from fantasy land”
        
        steffy girl, you are evidence of that.
        
        ardern is a liar
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:10am
      - RF
        
        I’m waiting for a highly placed Police Officer with balls to instigate a serious investigation into our PM and her boy friend.
        
        I am hearing about about these two and their associates from a number of reliable sources and going by this and other blogs we have a very dodgy and corrupt Labour led Govt with communist greens and idiots in NZ First who would sell their soul to the devil.
        
        Christ it’s just over a year and see how far we have fallen.
        
        Smile and wave toothy photo shots is not going to work.
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:17pm
    - Longknives
      
      If being part of the ‘In Crowd’ is listening to Jacinda Ardern playing shitty Techno music (while she waves and smiles at the crowd) then I would need those hard drugs to cope!
      Give me a few cold beers at an AC/DC concert anyday…
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:02am
      - SaltyCroc
        
        Hell – if I had to witness that I would want an extra dose of poison in my drugs!
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:21am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Milkmaid – You are a sick b*
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:59am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Was Jethro there?
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:02am
    - igm
      
      Maybe he was visiting his incarcerated best mate . . . discussing lawnmowers no doubt!
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:09am
    - Inandout
      
      Jethro was there in white.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:15am
    - pdm
      
      Was Richie Hardcore there?
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:26am
      - sooty
        
        Did he have a stall there for entertainment supplies supplys!
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:43am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Richie Hardcore is a male feminist, male feminists are the catholic priests of the 21st century.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:37pm
  - Paulus
    
    Understand she in Gizzy for the holidays at her penis’s mothers house.
    Assume they went to R&V in disguise.
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:25pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      What as? Mr Ed and the Lone Stranger?
      
      Or the Stoned Ranger?
      
      I know which one was the horses arse if it was just the single costume affair . . . .
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:52pm
- hello
  
  C’mon, this is an argument for legalisation more than anything. Clearly, kids are going to take drugs. The only question is: do we want them to be punished by death for that mistake?
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:44am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Clearly, not all kids are going to take drugs. It is a choice. Stupid is as stupid does.
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:51am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      There probably is a very small minority of people who’ve never drunk alcohol, never smoked a cigarette, never drunk caffeinated drinks etc, but that is a very weird choice and doesn’t invalidate the general statement “kids are going to take drugs.”
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:00am
    - Viking2
      
      Yes of course just like only a few drink that other drug known as alcohol.
      
      Just like sometimes you break the speed limit and sometimes you don’t Mostly you get away with out any harm, BUT there is a chance that you may not one time and the result is injury or death.
      
      We have the real ability to help protect people from others bad intentions so why should we not use that ability and importantly why should you stand in their way?
      
      Just another socialists control freak action.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:07am
  - Viking2
    
    You are in the wrong crowd here. The neanderthals here still think young people go the church on Sunday, beg forgiveness from their pedo priests and never have sex until marriage.
    
    But its worth a try I suppose.
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:01am
  - Longknives
    
    Not all kids take illegal drugs.
    That is an absolute myth…
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:04am
  - SaltyCroc
    
    Seriously? I don’t think so that all kids will take drugs. There may be an argument for legalising weed but you can’t compare the harm that does/might do to the harm that hard drugs like meth or ‘god knows what’ pills will do – and legalising those will help how?
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:26am
    - waikatogirl
      
      There is a new killer drug named Krokodil that has come out of Russia. Made for the cheap end of the market it is codeine based with nasties such as petrol included and it gets worse, read this:
      
      ‘Krokodil – real name desomorphine – is an ultra-cheap heroin substitute that counts crushed codeine pills, gasoline, cooking oil, iodine, paint thinner and lighter fluid among its toxic ingredients.
      The drug, which has become extremely popular in Russia in recent years, gets its name from the stench and reptilian texture it gives to an addict’s skin before it eventually eats it away completely, often leaving a user’s bones exposed.’
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:24am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Lots of nasty drugs come out of eastern Europe.
        
        There are very clear and obvious links into NZ.
        Read between the lines folks.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:35am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Krokodil is not new, its been around for a long time in Russia. They started importing it to the eastern seaboard in the USA with the Russian Mob about 4 years ago with predictably terrible consequences.
        
        The major problem with Krokodil (other than the obvious: its an opioid with high abuse potential) is that the drug is highly corrosive and at the site of injection can cause sterile abscess and worse. DO NOT google Krokodil and “images” unless you have a strong stomach.
        
        Meanwhile: cannabis, Ecstasy (MDMA/Molly etc) and even LSD not so much.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:06pm
      - Nermal
        
        I actually think some of these drugs are nature’s way of keeping up the population’s IQ and counteract the indiscriminate breeding of the ferals and socialists. Darwinism in action
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:35pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        as stated below only google “krokodil” images after lunch…. (and ignore the images of Afrikaans Crocodiles)
        
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        January 3, 2019 10:48pm
    - Colville
      
      Saltycroc
      Legalise E and it will be clean and as safe as possible.
      
      If E was legal booze consumption in young people would plummet
      
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      January 2, 2019 12:13pm
      - SaltyCroc
        
        I actually agree – as long as it is pure MDMA the research says pretty much that (erowid.org) but the problem is there are so many analogues being sold as E that are actually really nasty and NZ being an island country MDMA has to get across our border, so it is a lot easier to come up with lots of different pills of many analogues and sell it as ‘E’ – and then the lottery starts as to what it will do to the user.
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:39pm
      - Colville
        
        Salty
        Even with a open border market like the UK has its a very safe drug.
        2 Mil users and 10 deaths over a year.
        Compare to booze at 30 mil users and 8000 deaths (ignoring disease) So approx 1/50th as bad, and that is with buyers popping cheap premixed pills of questionable quality .
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:13pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Yep.
        
        MDMA, LSD and psilocybin are now being trialled by psychiatrists for people with affective disorders (most of the “inability to relate to others” disorders) as a way of helping
        
        The major side effect from MDMA is malignant hyperthermia, which is related to a genetic difference (polymorphism) that varies by population. Since NZ is mainly of Maori, English, Scottish and Pasifika immigrants rates should be as low as 1/350,000 or less.
        
        The major adverse effect of LSD and psilocybin is dissociative schizophrenia, but no genetic or environmental causes have been identified and the real incidence is believed to be incredibly rare.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:12pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Hi downticker,
        
        how is Man U doing this year?
        
        Didn’t think so. LOL
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:05pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Clearly some people are going to commit murder so let’s decriminalise that.
    
    Clearly some people are going to drink and drive, let’s decriminalise that.
    
    Clearly, while on drugs, some people are going to kill other people, let’s decriminalise that.
    
    Now, you probably “think” I’m being silly……
    
    We “know” you are being silly.
    
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    January 2, 2019 11:14am
    - Viking2
      
      You only know what you know and in your case not a lot about the subject other than emotional shit that the Nats support.
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:24am
      - Tall Man
        
        More insults to mask the fact that your argument is pointless and puerile.
        
        You are right, I do know what I know and it does seem to be a shitload more than you..mind you, that is probably a very low bar.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:36pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Your argument, if an appeal to emotion could be called that, treats current legislation as laws of nature rather than acts of Parliament.
      
      To change it from an appeal to emotion into an actual argument, you’d need to supply the missing premise that would show how an individual choosing to take a recreational drug (whether a currently-illegal one like E or a legal one like alcohol) is equivalent to murder. Good luck with that.
      
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      January 2, 2019 4:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        Well said Psycho, but way too thinky for an authoritarian motivated by power and control fantasies.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:06pm
  - Nermal
    
    Nothing new here. Even back in the 70’s & 80’s nasty drugs like spiked “Buddha sticks” were available to the unwary. One episode of literally trying to climb up walls was enough to educate most of us
    
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    January 2, 2019 5:31pm
- Biscuit
  
  holysheet, what is truly nuts is that (some of) the R&V folk will happily pay big dollar to purchase and ingest drugs of dubious provenance … and yet will be seen swigging from water bottles that have to meet strict standards.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:49am
- Pharmachick
  
  I upticked you because I agree about the waste of taxpayers money.
  
  Just legalize it already and use the Portugal model – their addiction and drug use rates have dropped dramatically since they ended prohibition and started treating addiction as a medical issue not a law-and-order issue.
  
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  January 2, 2019 3:52pm
- Surely Knott
  
  So what happens to the people who make the drugs laced with pesticide and paint thinner. Are they prosecuted? If you want to serve a glass of wine at your local community hall for a club fundraiser you need a $200 liquor license and a plan approved by police and health boards. They won’t issue BYO liquor licenses for public events. But BYO drugs are ok – and you don’t need a venue license? Will the councils add that as a question to their venue license procedure – do you expect people will bring illegal drugs to your venue? Do they pay extra for a venue license where they expect large amounts of BYO drugs. Does it include the costs for extra policing – as illegal drugs are not taxed and the manufacturers don’t pay tax or have to conform to any regulations either.
  
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  January 3, 2019 10:40am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Those are excellent arguments for applying to all psychoactive substances the same regime we apply to the sale and supply of alcohol.
    
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    January 3, 2019 11:07am
sooty

The COL deserve every raspberry thrown there way!
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January 2, 2019 8:03am
- stephieboy
  
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  sooty, why?
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:00am
  - holysheet
    
    When can we expect an answer to my question I asked you yesterday Ralphie?
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:16am
    - stephieboy
      
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      holycrap, don’t forget to replace your incontinent panties whilst at the keyboards.
      
      Ugh!
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:34am
      - holysheet
        
        Just be aware that every day you post a question, I will be asking you for an answer to my question above. You are very good at asking us questions and obviously expect us to answer them. In the spirit of the new year and all that, surely you could answer this simple question?
        Is that you Ralphie?
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:55am
      - GazzaW
        
        Steffie did they bring you in off the bench as a fill-in for the ‘silly season’? I have to give you an A for providing us with some laughs.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:05am
      - Tall Man
        
        ardern is a liar
        
        steffy girl is now irrelevant.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:15am
      - Twinkletoes
        
        The correct word is ‘incontinence’. Underwear cannot be incontinent!
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:38pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I can confidently say not today, tomorrow does not look much better either. . . .
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:40am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    No kiwi build houses
    No trees planted
    Bad cheque
    Gerrymander of Northland…(jones’ fund)
    Sex camps
    incompetent and dishonest ministers
    Ministers who physically ASSAULT their staff
    PM who interferes in the hiring process
    Seems over my lifetime, that a few National MP’s have been caught doing some of these thing, but I’m 58, these things have all happened over a period of the last YEAR, there wasn’t this rate of incompetence or corruption, even under Helen Clark or Lange even.
    
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    January 2, 2019 11:05am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      there wasn’t this rate of incompetence or corruption, even under Helen Clark or Lange even
      
      Helen and her helpers usually had their fingers on the pulse.
      Jacinda is only aware of issues after she hears about them on TV.
      
      (I’m too young to remember how Lange handled “issues”… didn’t he delegate everything?)
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:40am
      - Morrissey
        
        Lange didn’t have a clue. Douglas, De Cleene, Moore and Prebble ran the country. The Fat Man baled in ’89 before the whole thing crashed.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:43am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Lange was just a fat man with a smart mouth and smart ass attitude.
        Alienated our friends and allies, which cost us on the trade front for decades.
        Clark all but destroyed CER with Australia, we were lucky that the Aussies were feeling paternal toward us.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:26pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Our bewildered friend “RW Capitalist” is struggling. His thoughts about David Lange are disastrously ill conceived.
        
        Lange was just a fat man with a smart mouth and smart ass attitude.
        
        So far so good. A little simplistic and reductive, perhaps, but at least poor old RWC is in the right ballpark.
        
        Alienated our friends and allies, which cost us on the trade front for decades.
        
        And he’s driven himself off the cliff. Listen up, RWC, you chump: For all his faults, Lange led a government with the courage to stand up to a brutal bully. RWC’s contention that the U.S. and its vassals Britain and Australia were our “friends and allies” is risible; after the terrorist attack in Auckland on July 10, 1985 both Britain and Australia sided with the terrorists—as usual. As did, of course, the United States.
        
        Clark all but destroyed CER with Australia, we were lucky that the Aussies were feeling paternal toward us.
        
        Sheer nonsense.
        
        Could I suggest, RWC, that you cease listening to Larry “Lackwit” Williams and start reading a few books? Have you ever heard of a brilliant New Zealand writer called Bruce Jesson?
        
        You haven’t, of course. I suggest you head down to your local library and withdraw a couple of his books.
        
        Off you go now.
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:01pm
holysheet

Why does the law society prohibit sex between lawyers and their clients?

To prevent clients from being billed twice for essentially the same service.
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January 2, 2019 8:04am
- Morrissey
  
  How young can the clients be?
  
  https://www.instagram.com/cjsbishop/
  
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  January 2, 2019 7:10pm
G152

You’re not suggesting lawyers clients having ‘relations’ with the lawyer get stiffed twice ???
And don’t call me surely
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January 2, 2019 8:26am
Happychappy

This time last year Winston was sure he had a case against those he thought leaked his details of overpayment of his pension even though many were of the opinion he was the first to leak the details to get his party above the 5% threshold and back into Parliament. Now fifteen months on the rumour has it that he has thrown in the towel and has dropped his case against those he named in the National Party and MSD with the Taxpayers footing the bill for his blatant lies and innuendo.
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January 2, 2019 8:46am
Harkman

Tim bloody Shadbolt, f___ me and he was probably the most deserving on the list.
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January 2, 2019 9:02am
- VicParking
  
  Hard to uptick or down tick that comment.
  You must admit that Tim is a surviver, maybe a bit of wasted space but a good mayor as mayors go.
  So long as he stays at the bottom of the South Island we up North will be safe.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:13am
  - RF
    
    Perhaps you could take his bloody concrete mixer back.
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:28am
  - freethinker
    
    And whilst Cook Strait remains us in the South are relatively safe.
    
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    January 2, 2019 3:58pm
- Wangas Feral
  
  Always struck me as funny that he went from radical to establishment with not much more than a smile and a laugh – and now he got a gong for it.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:46am
  - Komata
    
    Wangas
    
    You too!
    
    He certainly took on the trappings of ‘Capitalism’ with great enthusiasm, and very very quickly.
    
    Perhaps proving that every radical is only an envious capitalist/establishment wannabe?
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:31am
    - Wangas Feral
      
      Say it isn’t so 🙂
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:50am
  - kowtow
    
    Have you ever met a “radical” who turned his snout up at a trough once he found it ?
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:08pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Lefties are like truffle pigs, they always seek out the largest troughs.
      
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      January 2, 2019 12:16pm
    - Komata
      
      kt@1208
      
      Nope; those of the CoL do it professionally…
      
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      January 2, 2019 4:47pm
Salacious Crumb

I encourage you all to read this article on Point of Order regarding the incorporation of “Maori Knowledge” into university level science.

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2018/12/24/lincoln-university-at-last-says-it-too-includes-maori-knowledge-in-its-science-classes/

Of particular note are the comments by a lecturer from the academic bastion that is Massey University.

Another example of the hijacking of our tertiary education system by the cultural Marxists. If we allow the STEM subjects to go the way of the humanities then we are totally screwed.
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January 2, 2019 9:19am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Question of the day: is ‘cultural Marxists’ a thinly disguised term for ‘the Jews’?
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:22am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    I’ll answer that with another; is to question the left grounds for being labeled a nazi?
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:24am
    - SGA
      
      There are some on the left who are quick to resort to labels like “nazi” in response to questions – just as there are some on the right who are quick to resort to labels like “communist” in response to questions (if you look, you will see it on KB reasonably regularly). It is a convenient way to dismiss the question without addressing it.
      
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      January 2, 2019 9:50am
      - Jack5
        
        The place of Maori studies in NZ universities is too important to be sidetracked into argument about those who are allegedly political responsible for them being there.
        
        The establishment of Maori tertiary institutions, wananga, should have provided ideal homes for specialised tertiary Maori studies. Wananga are recognised as tertiary institutions under the Education Act, and are regarded as the peers of universities, polytechnics, and colleges of education.
        
        However, it’s a case of what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is half-mine, as Maori activists and Leftists also increase Maori studies in our traditional universities.
        
        Relevant to Maori studies in our traditional universities is “Maori science”. The link below is to a view from an NZ Skeptics Society writer on “Maori science” and indeed any “indigenous science.”
        
        One of its paragraphs:
        
        ” …Maori knowledge acquisition was neither objective (relying as it did on religious faith), rational (it mixed supernatural with mundane explanations), nor co-operative (it relied on authority rather than challenge and consensus).”
        
        https://skeptics.nz/journal/issues/32/maori-science
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:49pm
      - SGA
        
        It is a bizarre situation, Jack5. After centuries of trying to disentangle science from religion and superstition…
        To the best of my knowledge, physics is physics whether it is studied in London, New York, Mumbai, Shanghai, or Christchurch. By all means use local examples or scenarios to fit your target audience, but otherwise…
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:13pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Question of the day: is ‘cultural Marxists’ a thinly disguised term for ‘the Jews’?
    
    Nah – although all of the Original Cultural Marxists from the Institute of Social Research in Frankfurt were Jews, (Horkheimer, Adorno, Marcuse, Pollack, Fromm, Kitchener, Lowenthal, Neumann & Grossman), as are most of the subsequent main Protagonists, but Culutral Marxism has become so widespread (even amongst Gentiles) that it’s lost any Judaic specific connotations.
    
    “Bolsheviks” however (specifically used in the context of the 1917 revolution) is probably the only time that one could legitimately inference it.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:21am
    - Jack5
      
      Hell’s teeth, 卐 EADolf, you make some extreme comment. It is shot down, then your bring it up in Kiwiblog again … and again … and again.
      
      You’ve made the claim before that the Bolsheviks were Jews, and I’ve responded to that post.
      
      The claim that the Bolsheviks were Jewish was a lie pushed hard by Nazis such as Rosenberg.
      
      According to the following Wikipedia article, on the eve of the Russian revolution less than 2 per cent of the Bolshevik Party were ethnic Jews, and in the new Soviet Union in the 1920s, only 6 per cent of the members of the presidium were Jews.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        “The claim that the Bolsheviks were Jewish was a lie pushed hard by Nazis such as Rosenberg.”
        
        Jacksie, Numerous Jewish academics have said the same. If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, then you might want to change those beliefs, instead of making personal attacks on people telling the truth.
        
        I can assure you Karl Marx was not a “Nazi”
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, nor was Karl Marx ‘s comrade Fredreich Engels!
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:26pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Jack – just stop making sh*t up and “backing up” your spurious claims with made up statistics.
        
        You can also stop using faux outrage (aka Wavey Davey) to try and shut down debate.
        
        For a start, 2/3 of the Cheka were Jewish.
        
        https://tarbaby.wordpress.com/2017/07/26/aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
        
        “We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But without Jews, there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew, nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists have murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.” – Nobel prize winning Laurete, Alexander Solzhenitsyn
        
        The two leaders of the communist revolution, Lenin (head of the Bolshevik faction) and Trotsky (head of the Menshevik faction), were Jews. In Germany, the communist revolutionaries in Germany, led by Rosa Luxemburg was Jewish. The murderous Bela Kun in Hungary was Jewish. The secret police, variously named the Cheka, NKVD, KGB and other names, had prominent Jewish leadership. See Baigais Gads (The Year of Horror), which shows clearly the secret police of the Bolshevik communists was dominated by Jews.
        
        The facts are the facts Jacksie – no matter how much you try and drown out discussion.
        
        https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:26pm
      - Jack5
        
        卐EADolf, regretfully I have to bore other posters by responding to your fascist propaganda …
        
        Lenin’s maternal grandfather was Jewish by birth, but was an Orthodox Christian. That makes Lenin genetically at most about the same proportion Jewish as Adolf Hitler was according to DNA tests of Hitler’s relatives.
        
        You know that Jewishness is passed through the maternal line, so you must know it is not true to say that Lenin was a Jew.
        
        You say the secret police (Cheka–>NKVDF –>KGB) were led by Jews. They were founded by a Pole from an aristocratic family (as Lenin was) – Felix Dzerzhinsky – “Iron Felix”.
        
        You keep serving up the quotation from a book by Alexander Solzhenitsyn which apparently has not been published in total in English, so we cannot check.
        
        Rather than shutting down discussion, I respond to your anti-Jewish rubbish as you hijack other discussions.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:50pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Jack – stop getting your “facts” from the John Money wing of the Gore Art Gallery❗
        
        Go read the Times of Israel article – 80% of the Bolshevik Government was made up of Juice.
        
        W.R.T. to Solzhenitsyn’s magnum opus, 200 Years Together, Several chapters that focus on the Jewish Question were censored. These chapters were banned for publication in English by the Simon Wiesenthal Center. These are chapters 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 15.
        
        The banned chapters have since been translated independently by individuals and are available at the link below for free.
        
        https://twohundredyearstogether.wordpress.com/page/2/
        
        READ IT
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:37pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Nope, morons.
    
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    January 2, 2019 11:17am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Siena Denton is not a lecturer at Massey University.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:35am
- Pharmachick
  
  AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!
  
  I hope you all heard me loud and clear.
  
  I am a scientist.
  
  On the same day that the New York Times excoriates James Watson for his (execrable) views on race and IQ I have to read this blatant crap? At a tertiary institution in NZ?
  
  What the ever loving ****?
  
  NOT COMING HOME PEOPLE.
  
  /rant over (sorry, somewhat).
  
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  January 2, 2019 4:25pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    Hey there, Man U supporter… thanks for the downtick. How’s your football season going?
    
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    January 2, 2019 7:30pm
RF

Interesting that on most nights the TV news has our Police at a crime scene tooled up with firearms. Usually this is when the horse has bolted and the Police are guarding the scene.

This is accepted by the majority of viewers as a fact of life.

It’s strange that when there is a request by Police to routinely carry firearms to be prepared for the unexpected, there is a public outcry.

Why ?
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January 2, 2019 9:26am
- realityczech
  
  They have far greater access to firearms than most people know.
  
  You might also want to ponder that police work would not make the top 50 of dangerous occupations. More people have died in a year, in other occupations, than the entire history of policing in NZ. The only difference is there is not a huge media beat up if a construction worker is killed.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:33am
  - Tall Man
    
    I often think they’d rather be assaulted than have to fill out the paperwork that using a firearm involves for the poor buggers.
    
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    January 2, 2019 11:18am
  - GoVege
    
    That’s because the Police receive proper training to minimize the chances of getting killed on the job.
    Don’t blame them for the she’ll be right attitude on most Kiwi worksites.
    They are ready to put their lives on the line every day, and receive threats to their lives and families from scum on a regular basis.
    Show a bit of gratitude.
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:55pm
- kowtow
  
  The utterly ridiculous thing about those Plod on cordon duty at the scene of crime is they are carrying military style semi automatic rifles which even though are shoulder slung still require two hands to hold /control.
  If someone , say a 150 kilo ape , came up to the petite wee thing ( so many are these days) and starting to push his way through the cordon tape , said officer would do what ? Shoot him ? Nope.
  
  They’d have to ground the weapon to tackle said ape or at the very least it would be an impediment while groping for Taser or pepper spray .
  
  The display of those rifles appears to be some sort of dick measuring contest .
  
  PS and if some loon did come back to the scene similarly armed and up for the gunfight at the Ki Ora Corral does anyone seriously think the Plodette has spent nearly enough time behind the trigger of said weapon to be able to use it with any proficiency ?
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:21pm
  - GoVege
    
    Why dont you try it and see, kowtow? 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:57pm
Jack5

The Hooerald has a timely reminder from a Somalian new New Zealander this morning to ❗?Kearealityczech❗ and 卐EADolf and the Stephiestani Trolls Ltd fuckwits, and all their ilk, on the need for tolerance in this country.

They should realise what this country could be with another 6000 Somali pharmacists! They would also undoubtedly swell NZ First, since the U-turn by its Great Leader, Judas Peteredoute.

???
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January 2, 2019 9:36am
- EAD_THREE
  
  Serious Jack,
  
  WTF are you on about?
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:44am
  - Jack5
    
    Sorry 卐EADolf, respected Reichsinspekteur, I was out of line.
    
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    January 2, 2019 11:44am
- Sofia
  
  ‘We sailed over corpses to get to NZ’: Refugee’s important message to fellow Kiwis, Trump – Herald headline
  
  In 1993, Somalia was facing some of its darkest days.
  So 25 years ago
  
  West Auckland-bred Mohamed Muse was just one year old when his family made a decision to flee Somalia [to Yemen by sea] before seeking refuge in New Zealand.
  
  “That journey was lethal. The voyage had a 50 per cent chance of survival, and we were literally sailing over corpses while I was in my mother’s arms. It’s a journey that’ll stay with me for the rest of my life.
  He remembers, as one year old at the time?
  
  Mo Muse June 22, 2018 ·
  In light of #WorldRefugeeDay, I was approached by the NZ Herald to share my story. Get to know some of the details of my journey to NZ that influences so much of my music.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:45am
  - harvey wilson
    
    How does a one year old remember sailing over corpses as a one year old? Does the Gharaman family have a Somalian branch?
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:35am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Kris Fafoi vividly remembers the birth of the Lord. So why can’t our refugee bro remember his journey? Give him a break.
      
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      January 2, 2019 12:28pm
    - Nermal
      
      My family fled war torn Indonesia when I was one year old. I don’t remember a thing. Must be because only socialists rewrite history to support their narrative
      
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      January 2, 2019 5:44pm
  - Swifty
    
    Throw him out.
    
    Firstly, for lying about the Aussies, secondly so he can now help rebuild his own country and thirdly, so that we can be spared from being further subjected to what he calls ‘his music’. (I suggest nobody clicks on his music links.)
    
    🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Jacksie, A reminder of my long held view that Somalian, and most Muslim, immigration should be very tightly controlled ?
  
  I also would only accept refugees from South Africa. However I would stop creating refugees by bombing and interfering in Muslim and African countries. We leave them alone, they leave us alone.
  
  But Jacksie… what does your cell intend to do to these people when they arrive?
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:50am
  - Komata
    
    Rc
    
    Re: ‘They leave us alone etc.’
    
    Umm, no, it don’t work that way,’cos they (Muslims), are charged with taking over the entire planet.
    
    Like it or not, they are coming to take us over, so you have little choice; fight or give up and be forced to comply with the Koran and all its ductates and get used to your position as ‘inferiors’…
    
    You chose…
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:39am
    - realityczech
      
      I thought it was Jews who were taking over the planet. Hard to keep up with you people.
      
      Maybe I live a sheltered life, but in my travels I have found neither group wanting to take over the world. That one goes to the Americans.
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:48am
      - Komata
        
        rc
        
        Have you read the Koran?
        
        In it all believers in allah are COMMANDED to take over the Infidel, deprive him of everything OR ELSE!!
        
        In view of your coments, a read might be of interest and informative.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:52pm
    - MH
      
      it’ll be a sunni day in hell when the Shiites hit the fan
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:37pm
  - kowtow
    
    ‘However I would stop creating refugees by bombing and interfering in Muslim and African countries’
    
    Bullshit.
    
    The current bunch of illegals dinghying their way to the UK are mostly Iranians. “We” haven’t bombed them since WW2 when they went in with Adolf.
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:24pm
Manolo

These invaders are unwanted but determined.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6539795/Ill-trying-200-times-Calais-migrants-say-attempting-Channel-crossings.html

Migrants in Calais yesterday swore to keep trying to make the perilous sea crossing to Britain, saying they are fearful of religious persecution in Iran and worried that claiming asylum in the UK will become harder after Brexit.

One young Iranian who said he was on a boat stopped in the water over Christmas insisted he would try ‘200 times’ to reach the UK despite having been terrified of drowning during the journey. Another said he would ‘keep trying to get to England’ despite having been in France since 2017.
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January 2, 2019 9:40am
- Rich Prick
  
  Yes, France is such a dangerous place. The welfare is only half as good as in the UK. Parasites.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:50am
  - kowtow
    
    Rich prick et al .
    
    This is the top rated comment from a Daily Telegraph article on this debacle. It’s a bit long but worth it.
    
    Basically they are not refugees , would not get refugee status in France so are going for easy touch Britain , which will give them asylum . Madness.
    
    “Caroline Buck 1 Jan 2019 5:35AM
    It’s perfectly clear why none of these immigrants is seeking asylum in France!
    
    I’ve just read what they would have to do. For a start, they need to go to a very particular place (SPADA reception centre) to claim asylum – they can’t just claim it anywhere.
    
    They HAVE to show a passport. And they will be interviewed about which countries they have passed through on the way. This stops them lying about their point of origin.
    
    They then have to go and have another interview at the local prefecture (town hall) and if they don’t turn up, they won’t get another.
    
    At this interview, they will be fingerprinted – electronic fingerprints go on a national database). This happens for all foreign nationals applying to stay in France – they have mine!)
    
    After this some accommodation may be arranged. But if the prefecture can’t, the asylum seeker will have to go back to the SPADA reception centre to complain.
    If they don’t stay in touch with the prefecture and it cannot contact them for more than a month, it will declare them “in escape” and take steps to have them removed i.e. they will have forfeited their rights as an asylum seeker.
    
    All this will have to be done in French with no state supplied translators, no literature in any other language than French and no legal aid because you have to be a legal French resident to access legal aid – which won’t be for a while for any asylum seeker. Put it this way, the French state will decide their fate long before any lawyer gets paid by the state.
    
    There’s pages of this stuff – I haven’t yet got to the point where an asylum seeker might expect to get any actual dosh in the form of benefit, but you get the idea.
    Being an asylum seekers in the UK is so much easier and you’re allowed, nay positively encouraged, to lie about where you come from to improve the likelihood of your claim succeeding.
    The UK needs to toughen up its procedures massively – if not this problem will go on and get much worse. This completely explains why the French state is unsympathetic to any problem the Brits have with illegal immigration – it considers us wimps.
    Asylum seekers/illegal immigrants are behaving completely logically in trying to get from France to the UK – and the UK is encouraging them.”
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:08pm
  - GoVege
    
    Nah, RP.
    After trying French food, I’d be desperate to get out of there too.
    
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    January 2, 2019 2:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Poisson cru…..cassoulet….cognac (not food but just as essential)….jambon de Bayonne…cheap red wine ( I know, nearly food)… baguettes….roquefort…
      
      I guess you’ve not really tried….
      
      As you can guess, I love the food and out of Paris it’s a great country to spend some time in.
      
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      January 2, 2019 2:19pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Oi, can you stop that please, I haven’t been in France for well over 2 years (altho did make it to Montreal last year… smoked meat!!!!!!) 😉
        
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        January 3, 2019 4:09pm
- realityczech
  
  These invaders are unwanted but determined.
  https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/voyage-of-the-st-louis
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:53am
  - mandk
    
    Yes, they were real refugees.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:33am
    - realityczech
      
      Sure in hindsight. But you people used the exact same arguments for the exact same reasons. Your opinion has nothing to do with consideration of the facts.
      
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      January 2, 2019 11:26am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, so what are the facts? Plenty among them to enrich America’s or even Cuba’s gene pool.,
        
        https://www.science.co.il/nobel-prizes/Physics.php
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:28pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Not at all. These people were escaping a certain death, as it is 250 odd dies anyway.
        
        The current crop of “refugees” are not and in fact, many of their countries are asking for their return to help rebuild their ravaged countries.
        
        The bulk of these are economic refugees who, after arrival in their sanctuary, try to alter their haven to their whims.
        
        I’m not an expert but I’m pretty sure we haven’t had demands for compliance with Judaism’s requirements yet we all now eat halal meat and are frowned at for saying Christmas…
        
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        January 2, 2019 2:23pm
      - mandk
        
        Hindsight has nothing to do with it.
        
        By any standard, they were refugees. They fled only a few months after kristallnacht.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:05pm
- Inandout
  
  And yet not one pork chop has been used on them.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:38am
Viking2

It seems to me that lots of the posters on KB have moved to the left.
The moment we suggest that people should have freedom to say and do what they want so long as it doesn’t cause harm to anyone else the red ticks come out like dog flea’s.

No wonder the Nats. have to go to China for funding. There are still many who would support a party that venerates freedom of the individual.
Apparently not so many members of the KB community these days.
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January 2, 2019 9:52am
- realityczech
  
  Viking2, yes I have noticed that. They are every bit as bad as the left on KB, with demands that people be banned for hate-facts, or things they disagree with.
  
  There are too many base and lazy minds on here at the moment, riddled with intellectual dishonesty and bias.
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:57am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Left and Right seem to be labels that are thrown about based primarily on who is doing the throwing, and where they see themselves on the spectrum.
  
  There are many people I deal with where I find myself having to bite my tongue, lest I be labelled some sort of fascist, and in certain circles there are topics that become very problematic.
  
  The fact is, it shouldn’t be.
  
  Universities, for many years the bastion of freedom of speech have now become the self appointed arbiters of acceptable speech. Young Minds that were once encouraged to debate ideas and concepts, no matter how potentially offensive are now coddled by safe spaces and Trigger Warnings that free, independent thought is now considered a safety issue.
  
  As least we can have an open debate here. I wish the name calling was replaced with more reasoned argument though.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:21am
secondcumming

111 Call…..

POLICE: “Your location and emergency?”

ME: “I’m in the Victoria Street car park of Les Mills Gym
and two women are fighting over me!”

POLICE: “OK…….so what’s your problem?”

ME: “The fat one’s winning”
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January 2, 2019 9:55am
- realityczech
  
  Keep em coming 🙂
  
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  January 2, 2019 9:59am
  - Biscuit
    
    Indeed, realityczech!
    
    Way too many way too serious folk in here, often…
    
    I saw a good one-liner yesterday: 2019 will, likely, be the last year ending with ‘teen’ that any of us ever see…
    
    I intend laughing right through it (the year, that is) and secondcumming’s daily dose(s) help there!
    
    The ninth uptick was mine, secondcumming, and your fifth uptick, realityczech, was mine, too.
    
    I’m in such a happy mood this fine still day you’d ALMOST think Liverpool were atop the Premier League!
    
    (Cue a mikenmildagain putdown, I just bet!)
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:31am
    - SGA
      
      Predictions for next match… ?
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:24pm
      - Biscuit
        
        I’m not quite sure what Liverpool’s strategy should be, here, SGA:
        
        * City HAVE to win – but a win still leaves them 3 points (plus Goal Difference) behind.
        * A draw keeps Pool 6 points (and, again, that Goal Difference) clear
        * A Pool win effectively (though not quite) wins the Championship
        
        Do Pool see the first point above, say ‘What the hell?’ and try for a win anyway?
        
        I’m biased, as you would know, but I think they’ll sneak it, 2-1…
        
        As an aside, have you seen what the NZ TAB (‘You know the odds, now watch us give you way shorter ones’) are ‘offering’ for the game?
        
        A real bookmaker (bet365, in this instance) sees it:
        Manchester City: 21/20 ($2.05 in NZ TAB-speak)
        Liverpool: 5/2 ($3.50)
        Draw: 29/10 ($3.90)
        
        The rip-off merchants in Petone, under monopoly conditions, go:
        Manchester City: $1.95
        Liverpool: $3.40
        Draw: $3.60
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:02pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Biscuit and SGA,
        
        Bobby, Mo, Sadio and Xherdan will go the “Boss” move and attempt to waste City 4-0.
        
        Meanwhile, Virgil, Dejan, Gini and Allisson will deny all comers, even de Bruyne.
        
        You heard it here first
        
        Edit to add: Did everyone see how well Stevie is doing with Rangers? Just saying
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:51pm
SGA

It seems to me that lots of the posters on KB have moved to the left.

I can’t say I have noticed that, Viking2. For myself, I enjoyed Kiwiblog a lot more before the last election. Nowadays, I seem to scroll over increasing amounts of content-free bitterness and name calling to find anything worth reading. But maybe that’s just me.
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January 2, 2019 9:58am
- realityczech
  
  You don’t notice it, because you don’t like freedom of speech.
  
  Us liberals do notice it and you are far from being a liberal.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:00am
  - SGA
    
    Happy New Year, realityczech. Batteries recharged for another 12 months of trolling? 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:03am
    - realityczech
      
      “trolling”
      
      Very clever. You win the internet today.
      
      You must be exhausted after that intellectual effort.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:14am
      - SGA
        
        I’ll cope, but will probably need a nap later, thanks.
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:18am
  - jcuk
    
    More pointless name calling.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:22am
    - Tall Man
      
      Not always pointless…live a little 😉
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:37am
      - Viking2
        
        Nah, its now Give a Little and the Nats need to be reminded that’s what they need to find, a give a ittle page which will replace the Chinks money.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:29am
      - Tall Man
        
        Have you always been a xenophobic tool viking?
        
        As previously asked, please give me an example of “influence” bought with Chinese money?
        
        Until that time, please refrain from offensive behaviour without basis.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Nowadays, I seem to scroll over increasing amounts of content-free bitterness and name calling to find anything worth reading.
  
  It appears to be a strategy to disrupt information flow on this blog.
  Observe each day when the abuse starts.
  
  The problem is that many reasonable folk won’t bother voicing an opinion here… and over time the commentariat reduces to a predictable group.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:10am
  - SGA
    
    It appears to be a strategy to disrupt information flow on this blog.
    
    Really? Not so sure. It seems a more emotional reaction than anything – look at the very first post of today, for example – dirty harry felt cheated at the last election, and still needs to vent.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:17am
    - Tall Man
      
      And you feel a rebuttal formed as a not so subtle slur is the way to go?
      
      Maybe you’re just as much a part of the problem, despite what you think.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:39am
      - SGA
        
        What rebuttal? But, yes, you might have a point – this topic of conversation is hardly earthshattering or newsworthy (I wondered about that myself 🙂 ). On the other hand, maybe such discussions aren’t inappropriate from time to time on such a loosely moderated blog?
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:48am
      - Tall Man
        
        “dirty harry felt cheated at the last election, and still needs to vent”
        
        I would consider that to be an insulting response.
        
        Perhaps he, like many others, is not feeling “cheated” but is genuinely concerned that we had an election whereby three parties managed to form a government by promising much, but delivering little.
        
        Scroll though the election manifestos of the three and try to find “promises” that have been kept that have not created more harm than good.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:25am
      - SGA
        
        I would consider that to be an insulting response.
        
        Wasn’t meant to be particularly insulting, but maybe I’m a bit more thick skinned than most.
        
        Perhaps he, like many others, is not feeling “cheated”
        
        Disagree in general – my sense is that there are many people here who do feel somewhat “cheated” because National comfortably got the most votes of any one party and that NZF should have felt an obligation to respect that. In fact, some commnetators here have been calling for a party like NZF to be legally obliged to form a government with the majority party in the future.
        
        That’s how I see it, anyway.
        
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        January 2, 2019 11:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        Well I don’t feel “cheated” and many I have spoken with feel the same.
        
        I feel NZ has been conned and is still being conned by a man with a nasty agenda and a woman who had no intention of doing anything other than what she is currently doing. I believe she is auditioning for a role at the UN and believes that whatever the cost NZ has to pay it is worth it because she is a self absorbed greedy communist.
        
        That frustrates me because in my line of work I have to deal with people from many cultures and at many levels of income. The ones who have decided to invest in their and their children’s future are most at risk from the plans this government has.
        
        As an ordinary New Zealander that concerns me. I have been around long enough to know that governments come and go and the members of those governments seldom have to live with the consequences of their actions.
        
        As a fairly smart person I am well protected from whatever these turds throw at me but many are not and as they don’t fit the “needy” mold that labour have cultivated they are disposable.
        
        That is what makes me grumpy, not whether Sir Bill is the PM or Simon Bridges or Donald Trump… 😉
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:04pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Toy boy,
        
        Burp!
        
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        January 2, 2019 1:32pm
      - sooty
        
        You been doing a Monica, Stephie?
        
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        January 3, 2019 7:53pm
  - jcuk
    
    Do you note Maggi that both KB and The Standard have cycles where that happens and then comes right.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:25am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I don’t follow the Standard – might look at one post about once a month there – I gather it bans folks for voicing their opinions.
      
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      January 2, 2019 10:33am
      - realityczech
        
        Maggy, I go there a few times a year. The moderators regularly: abuse people > misrepresent what they said > edit the comment to say something else > ban them so they can’t reply.
        
        The moderators use language that would even make KB regulars blush. It is unbelievable. 🙂
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        The left don’t like opposing opinions, have you not noticed that…..:)
        
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        January 2, 2019 10:40am
  - Pateke
    
    That’s what i do, Maggie
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:54am
  - KeaRea
    
    That’s true.
    
    But how do you propose talking about third rail issues in a way that doesn’t make normies get badfeels whilst maintaining fidelity to the subject matter.
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:13pm
  - KevOB
    
    Too many long boring race based threads. Self perpetuating drivel.
    
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    January 2, 2019 4:20pm
- Sacha
  
  The name-calling is taking over the General Debate. I know it’s a free speech zone, but there’s only so much name calling that I can be bothered to read (usually about 2), even though there are some people with great opinions and point-of-view who contribute.
  If Morissey would go back to his own blog, and take hs critics with him, that would be a start.
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:13pm
Lee C

Here’s your PM as we all know and love her…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeW9LFfRHfE
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January 2, 2019 10:16am
- mandk
  
  Nice try, but the teeth are way too small.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:28am
Lee C

Re the above, I think what is really happening is that people who support ‘the other side’ have graduated to KB as a place where they can actually express ideas without censorship.
Their presence, IMO is an endorsement of KB and its clientele, so I welcome them.
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January 2, 2019 10:20am
- SGA
  
  I think what is really happening is that people who support ‘the other side’ …
  
  In my experience, there are a lot of people who don’t “take sides” to any great degree, Lee C.
  I agree though – the lack of moderation has always been a big KB plus, imo.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:24am
DigNap15

Yes I welcome them, as it gives us a chance to re-educate them.
And they will be able to see how true kiwis feel.

(as long as they don’t contribute mindless drivel in the late afternoon)
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January 2, 2019 10:27am
- SGA
  
  meh – I bet that the regulars on most mainstream political blogs think that they represent the “true” feelings of people. Irrespective of its political stamp.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:31am
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    Sorry, but I said true kiwis, not true feelings.
    
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    January 2, 2019 10:46am
- Tall Man
  
  I try to get my drivel out early in the day… 😉
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:43am
- Psycho Milt
  
  And they will be able to see how true kiwis feel.
  
  I would admire the level of skill it must take to post a “no true Scotsman” fallacy without needing an argument to include it in, but suspect that the achievement was entirely unintentional.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:55am
- Viking2
  
  We have nearly managed one but sometimes he reverts.
  
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  January 2, 2019 11:31am
- waikatogirl
  
  “Yes I welcome them, as it gives us a chance to re-educate them.”
  
  It is good to keep abreast of the lefties sometime’s bizarre outlook on life. Know where your enemy is coming from…
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:44pm
DigNap15

Hey is it safe to turn Newstalk ZB on this morning?
No more Leighton.
Lets hope Larry and Mike stay on and that they find a few more like them!
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January 2, 2019 10:30am
- secondcumming
  
  From February, it’ll be 2GB for me between 9 and noon…..unless I feel the need to call Kerry Woodham to discuss Incontinence and Treaty issues.
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:45am
  - Biscuit
    
    2GB in Sydney, secondcumming?
    
    Tolerate me – I’m no net junkie, ha – but presumably you listen to them on-line. Do you have a link?
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:03pm
    - secondcumming
      
      Yep, that’s it Bikkie….just google *Alan Jones 2GB* and it takes you to the site. Click on ‘listen’.
      
      Jonesy don’t take no shit, and even though it’s usually all about OZ, he’s bloody entertaining!
      
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      January 2, 2019 12:13pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Thanks, secondcumming, I will add it to my ‘Favourites’.
        
        I actually met Jones at The Everest racemeeting at Randwick back in October.
        
        We had a briefish chat about ‘the things that get people upset’, ha, because days earlier the Opera House had rejected a proposal from The Everest folk that the night-time barrier draw for that race be screened, by superimposition, over the Opera House itself.
        
        Loads of folk I had hitherto considered sane promptly tossed their dummies out of the cot – ‘Commercialisation of a national treasure!’, etc – when all that was being done was for, maybe half an hour, using a Sydney landmark to promote Australia’s richest-ever race, all $ 13 mill of it, to the public.
        
        Jones, rightly, reasoned that using the Opera House in such a way would get global attention focussed on The Everest far more than a bland committee room exercise would have … and so used his influence, not just on Radio, to see to it that the precious arty crowd pulled their collective heads in.
        
        As a media man, Jones, of course, knew all about the ‘sound bite’ aspect to modern News reporting.
        
        It’s why, of course, yesterday you would have seen News pics of the Sydney Harbour Bridge lit up with fireworks as being emblematic of Australia’s New Year’s festivities … and not the two sparklers and three rockets that were set off at a BBQ in Wayne Smith’s backyard in Murrumbidgee, heh heh.
        
        Thanks again!
        
        Oh, Jones and I also agreed that the current regime running Australian Rugby were ‘crap’.
        
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        January 2, 2019 12:42pm
  - GazzaW
    
    2GB for me as well sc. Alan Jones has been my ‘go to’ for a couple of years now whenever Leighton is away.
    
    Will I miss Kerre’s rivetting stories about the London grandchildren though? Decisions, decisions…..
    
    I’m thinking that Leighton’s advertising regulars will have had some real sweetheart offers to keep them on board.
    
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    January 2, 2019 3:55pm
- backster
  
  Dig…Safe enough if you are vitally interested in whether KFC or Fish nChips is the best takeaway or whether rodeo are good entertainment.
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:20pm
  - secondcumming
    
    My mother-in-law was saying *Shaun Plunket* is coming back to morning talk back on 702am….. anything would be better than this current crop of dipstiks!
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:59pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Low bar eh?
      
      Shame really.
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:10pm
    - GazzaW
      
      The 60’s music station? What a waste of a talent.
      
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      January 2, 2019 3:58pm
KeaRea

O Magnum Mysterium – Morten Lauridsen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ch7uottHU

Re-post from yesterday post-funeral.

This year the good guys are going to start winning in earnest, always with foreknowledge in the end of final victory.

The idea that we ‘own’ these bodies, perilous organic hybrid machines pulsating with the energies of the ether, into which we are thrust without will and equally are seized and evicted from at even more capricious will is probably one of the most silly ideas of the contemporary age. C S Lewis said it must be considered the most funny and stupid idea equally in heaven and hell.

‘My body my choice’.

We don’t own our bodies – how can you own something you didn’t, can’t create or even inherit? And there is no choice. Who chooses?

We are rentiers and temporary stewards of a vessel. And that vessel can be rent apart and removed at a moment’s notice. By anyone, or anything. Such is the price of the gift.

Imagine the billions of souls torn from the earth looking down or looking up and shaking their heads at the sheer folly and stupidity of ‘my body, my choice’.

Can you imagine it?

My friend didn’t imagine it.

Anyway, it’s been good to reintroduce into Kiwiblog the idea of God and nation and ‘the West’. It’s not trolling.

My resolution for this year is to make it the year of conscience.

Happy new year to everyone.
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January 2, 2019 10:50am
- fernglas
  
  Thank you for reintroducing us to the idea of “the west”. I always understood that it was anything on the left if you were facing north, and vice versa if you were facing south.
  
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  January 2, 2019 11:43am
- Swifty
  
  Self-absorbed wank.
  
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  January 2, 2019 11:54am
  - KeaRea
    
    I certainly can’t be being moderated for a comment like that, can I?
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:46pm
  - KeaRea
    
    It’s not the length, clearly.
    
    This one isn’t comprised of invective, there is nothing edgy about it – it’s just philosophical debate.
    
    And I’m being moderated for it? For paraphrasing CS Lewis and posting a beautiful hymn? In New Zealand? On the right-wing blog?
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:49pm
  - KeaRea
    
    A man in debt hates the very sight and smell of a pocket-book.
    
    It’s not about me – it’s the arguments you don’t like because they resonate.
    
    You’ve just demonstrated the dynamic behind ‘man-splaining’. What that is, is when someone with high estrogen like you gets badfeels because of an authoritative conceptual truth being imparted to them without concessions. Better get used to it.
    
    “The Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.”
    
    Stefan Molyneux got banned from New Zealand because of the estrogen levels he raised here.
    
    And it’s an absolute truth. No one here has ever raised the paradigm of the west when it is central to everything.
    
    I don’t get it. You can talk about anything you like. Why do people get so personally offended by comments like that one? Why does it ‘chill’ the board? Talk about anything you like. Take a chill pill little Gamma dude. It’s not about you either.
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:04pm
    - Swifty
      
      Get help man.
      
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      January 2, 2019 1:10pm
Hugh Pavletich

Aussie house price crash accelerates into 2019 – Leith van Onselen – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/aussie-house-price-crash-accelerates-2019/

By Leith van Onselen

CoreLogic’s dwelling price results were released for December, with revealed another 1.34% decrease in values recorded over the month at the 5-city level: … read more via hyperlink above …

… late October article …

Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator
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… New Zealand … the flight to affordability …

Entrepreneurs and businesses see benefits of working on the (South Island) West Coast | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109510478/entrepreneurs-and-businesses-see-benefits-of-working-on-the-west-coast
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January 2, 2019 10:57am
- howitis
  
  ..and speaking of sprayers not sayers who come on to KB to spout forth…
  Hugo
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  January 2, 2019 12:40pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Sydney Housing Slump to Deepen as Prices Drop Most Since 1980s – Bloomberg
    
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-01/sydney-housing-slump-to-deepen-as-prices-drop-most-since-1980s
    
    Weakest property market since 2008: Sydney, Melbourne house prices tumble … The Sydney Morning Herald
    
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/weakest-property-market-since-2008-sydney-melbourne-house-prices-tumble-20190102-p50p6b.html
    
    Australian housing market falls 4.8 per cent, in biggest drop since global financial crisis – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-02/australian-housing-prices-fall-4.8pc-weakest-since-gfc/10678444
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:59pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/aussie-house-price-crash-accelerates-2019/#comment-3259854 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/links-2-january-2019/#comment-3259855
      
      Check out the massive coverage …
      
      Google News NZ Search ‘Australia Housing’
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=australia+housing&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRrdCH9s3fAhUKf7wKHaByAycQ_AUIDygC&biw=995&bih=437
      
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      January 2, 2019 2:28pm
      - Swifty
        
        Hugh Pavletich is a wanker.
        
        See hyperlink below……
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        January 2, 2019 3:46pm
Aunty

On their webpage, Facts About Poverty In New Zealand, https://nzccss.org.nz/work/poverty/facts-about-poverty/ the New Zealand Council of Christian Social Services states “Fact 7: Economic growth alone does not solve poverty”. In further commentary to this point they state:-

“Growing the (economic) cake” does not necessarily mean that everyone receives a larger slice. Recent evidence from the World Bank and from the IMF recognises the need for growth to be “pro poor” if it is to make an impact on poverty and inequality. This means that economic growth needs to be accompanied by policies that reduce inequality by redistributing wealth (e.g. cash payments to the poor that help them access health care and stay in school).” https://nzccss.org.nz/work/poverty/facts-about-poverty/fact-7-economic-growth-alone-does-not-solve-poverty/

In support of this claim they quote ‘evidence’ (two reports) reports from the IMF and the World Bank to which they have provided a link.

I made the effort to go to those links and to read the commentary contained therein. This is what the IMF had to say:-

“As indicated above, the IMF—and the economics profession more generally—has come to believe that the evidence forcefully argues that wealth creation-manifested by real economic growth in incomes and employment—is the principal and most forceful engine by which poverty is reduced.” https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2015/09/28/04/53/sp021303a

And the World Bank:-
“Economic growth has been vital for reducing extreme poverty and improving the lives of many poor people,” said World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim.” http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2014/04/10/ending-poverty-requires-more-than-growth-says-wbg

And:-
“ While economic growth remains vital for reducing poverty, growth has its limits, according to a new World Bank paper released today. Countries need to complement efforts to enhance growth with policies that allocate more resources to the EXTREME poor. These resources can be distributed through the growth process itself, by promoting more inclusive growth, or through government programs, such as conditional and direct cash transfers.”

And:-
Growth alone is unlikely to end extreme poverty by 2030, says the paper, because as extreme poverty declines, growth on its own tends to lift fewer people out of poverty. This is because, by this stage, many of the people still in extreme poverty live in situations where improving their lives is extremely difficult.

And:-
Kim added: “To end extreme poverty, the vast numbers of the poorest – those earning less than $1.25 a day – will have to decrease by 50 million people each year until 2030. This means that 1 million people each week will have to lift themselves out of poverty for the next 16 years. This will be extraordinarily difficult, but I believe we can do it. This can be the generation that ends extreme poverty.”

So let us be clear here. The World Bank is talking about extreme poverty, which is those who live on less than US$1.25 a day. And the whole focus and purpose of their report was on those living in extreme poverty. It was not about the relative poverty of the type that we have here in New Zealand. Moreover, the President of the World Bank himself admitted that economic growth is the main driver of reducing poverty, although it may have limitations in lifting those out of extreme poverty, i.e., those who live on less than US$1.25 a day. And according to the report, 80% of those are found India, China, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Democratic Republic of Congo, Indonesia, Pakistan, Tanzania, Ethiopia, and Kenya. Not New Zealand. It should be pointed out that none of the countries listed have the extensive cradle to the grave welfare system, free health care and universal education systems that New Zealand has.

So neither the World Bank nor the IMF have claimed that economic growth does not reduce poverty, in fact they both argue the exact opposite, that it is the main driver of reducing poverty but may have limitations in lifting the extreme poor out of poverty in the countries listed above.

Why has the New Zealand Council of Christian Social Services of which the Salvation Army is a member chosen to misrepresent the findings and conclusions of these reports on its ‘facts about poverty in New Zealand’ page?

Why is it asserting ‘facts’ about the role of economic growth in reducing poverty that neither report support?

Why is it trying to stretch study findings from absolute poverty of the type found in the 3rd world and make them apply to the relative poverty found in the 1st?

Why hasn’t the New Zealand news media picked up on this previously and challenged the Council on its assertions rather just publishing and extending the council’s claims without thought or question?

And finally, what is the Council’s agenda here?
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- Jack5
  
  Excellent post, Aunty.
  
  It’s time, too, that NZ revised its tax-free status of charities. Many of them are either fronts for political activists or religious or racial groups rorting the system.
  
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  January 2, 2019 11:49am
  - Biscuit
    
    Not just charities, Jack5.
    
    I’d include the churches – in any shape or form – too.
    
    Any organisation, in fact, that engages in exchanges or money…
    
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    January 2, 2019 12:01pm
    - KeaRea
      
      Here’s the question.
      
      Who do you want providing social services?
      
      See, it’s communists who want government to have a monopoly on social services.
      
      Tax breaks for charitable organisations are a right-wing idea: because it encourages private social enterprise in the absence of profits.
      
      Right – so Kiwiblog’s position because it got butthurt I stated the very effective truth that ‘my body my choice’ was designed to subvert is to adopt the Green party’s preferences on government service provision.
      
      Conservatives promote private social enterprise.
      
      Communists use taxes to quash it.
      
      You do understand that people like me are going to get rid of the fake Christians saying exactly what you are criticising in the alliance of social services?
      
      But you can get rid of the Cat rabies without killing the whole Cat?
      
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      January 2, 2019 12:53pm
  - howitis
    
    Largely what has happened is organisations of a benign nature – which are easy targets for hard left scumbags like oh, say, Russel with one ‘L’ and no flag – are taken over by these nasty critters.
    
    Greenpeace is one that succumbed early, add in the Green Party of NZ from early 2000s, (Norman; Sue Badford; Material Turei et al) Red Cross, Salvation Army and more.
    You will note a high number of foreigners among this lot eg Green party – Ghahraman; prior> R Norman; Genter.
    Some Welsh whinger comes on the AM TV3 show. I fast forward. I Don’t recall his name but a right moaning minnie he is. Doom, I tell ya.
    
    Rusty Norman is a serial offender coming here first to do his PhD on the very left wing Alliance then moved onto the Green party as it went Red; and then onto Greenpeace which had already gone hard left.
    
    A number of organisations that started out in the 1970s and 1980s with good intent have been taken over by hard left career moaners (aka. cot case commies) who would have previously just had Unions to collect a salary from.
    We see some of them switch in NZ between mainstream politics paid directly by the taxpayer and NGOs or similar groups with the likes of Sue Badford and Matt McCarten.
    
    A big clean out of the more than 26,000 registered ‘charity organisations’ would be a good start.
    When approved, action a sunset clause where they lose charitable status after ten years and they have to re-apply and prove they are doing ‘good works’. Many will fail.
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:31pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Anyone remember CORSO?
      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/the-new-zealand-council-of-organisations-for-relief-overseas-corso-formed
      
      In examining CORSO’s decline from 1970, until its ‘functional death’ in 1991, the causes of
      this decline provide a valuable illustration of the importance of political independence and
      integrity for charitable organisations’ survival.
      Paying the Price of the Failure to retain
      Legitimacy in a National Charity: the CORSO Story
      https://www.victoria.ac.nz/sacl/centres-and-institutes/cagtr/working-papers/WP47.pdf
      
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      January 2, 2019 2:31pm
      - howitis
        
        I do remember CORSO.
        Muldoon took away their charitable status circa 1979.
        My sisters flatmate was one of the ‘workers’.
        He had a ‘company car’ and did not even leave home until 10am.
        He would not die of hard work.
        They were a shonky outfit.
        
        Very few ‘charities’ deliver well.
        I did business with a few in the 90s.
        An old trick still used today is accept a ‘lower salary’ but you need to go to conferences to ‘make the organisation better’ and ‘because I work for a lower salary …the wife suffers…so I have to take her with me on the overseas trip ..number 3 this year..’ or similar.
        The cost of employment is actually high. This cuts into achievements/outcomes.
        
        Deliverables by charities are generally not high and this provides an interesting reflection on the likes of Phil Twyford who spend over a decade with OxFam.
        He cannot deliver on his two key portfolios of Housing and Transport and do you think he delivered under OxFam?
        I dealt with him there in the mid 90s. He was a sanctimonious, smarmy prick then.
        He has not changed.
        
        I seem to recall that Gary Knapp, who was a SoCred MP for East Coast Bays in the 1980s, came from a chugger (charity mugger ) background.
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:36pm
      - Swifty
        
        Not great reading about the Harawiras….
        
        https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/taranaki-daily-news/20100514/281659661261931
        
        Thugs and wreckers.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:07pm
- backster
  
  Aunty……Similar to the agenda of the IPCC whose latest report suggests the mandatory dismantling of Capitalism to fight climate change..Winston and Miss Adern both agree Capitalism has failed, which suggests a similar agenda.
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:26pm
colinm

Apropos the Smoking debate the other day.
I found this Book online (project Gutenberg) ages ago.
Old New Zealand: Being Incidents of Native Customs and Character in the Old Times.
The author had comment to make on smoking even in the 1860’s. Yet we still do it over a hundred years later…
“and I really do believe that the certainty of death will not prevent some of the natives from smoking for more than a given time. I have often seen infants refuse the mother’s breast, and cry for the pipe till it was given to them; and dying natives often ask for a pipe, and die smoking. I can clearly perceive that the young men of the present day are neither so tall, or stout, or strong, as men of the same age were when I first came to the country; and I believe that this smoking, from their infancy, is one of the chief causes of this decrease in strength and stature.”
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January 2, 2019 12:20pm
- realityczech
  
  Did native Americans not die before smoking came along?
  
  The leading cause of preventable death now is poor diet. 3 x more people than smoking.
  
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  January 2, 2019 12:28pm
DigNap15

As regards getting people out of poverdy.
I have just 4 phrases
Economic growth like China
Education – not many well educated people are poor.
Jobs
Condoms
Not higher taxes for the rich and more benefits.
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January 2, 2019 12:56pm
DigNap15

Perhaps the American Indians only smoked tobacco at special ceremonials occassions?
Not 20 cigs a day!
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January 2, 2019 12:57pm
- Tall Man
  
  I’m awaiting a treaty claim that maori are guaranteed access to tobacco and other “substances” as a right and at zero cost.
  
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  January 2, 2019 1:26pm
  - sooty
    
    So they should after all they bought it in with the first canoes! Don’t you know your history!
    
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    January 3, 2019 7:49pm
realityczech

This sort video is well worth watching backed with numerous examples of SJW women raped and murdered by the people they were defending.

The Tragedy of Cultural Relativism
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January 2, 2019 12:58pm
- Tall Man
  
  Hard to argue with that but hey, steffy girl and mutton turd will probably be along shortly to prove me wrong.
  
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  January 2, 2019 1:23pm
  - realityczech
    
    Yes because they think feelings and ideology beat facts and outcomes
    
    I have no sympathy for the victims in those examples, but worry greatly about decent people suffering as a result of their actions.
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  rc, were you aware Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones share common nutters genes?
  
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  January 2, 2019 1:52pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And there you go, right on cue.
    
    ardern is a liar
    
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    January 2, 2019 1:54pm
MH

Has Donna Awatere te martyr given her predictions on climate change as it effects Maori yet ?
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January 2, 2019 1:16pm
- Tall Man
  
  Awaiting “koha” first.
  
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  January 2, 2019 1:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Maori Climate Commission is a private organisation… set up by Maori Business interests/Maori Land owners (Maori Carbon Foundation) to keep an eye on what is happening with Government legislation re Climate Change, ETS etc.
    
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1809/S00179/maori-climate-commissioner-announced.htm
    
    Ms Awatere has made a very sensible submission on some aspects of the ETS
    http://www.maoriclimatecommission.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Maori-Climate-Commission-Submission-2018.pdf
    
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    January 2, 2019 3:09pm
    - realityczech
      
      What a load of drivel and emotive language.
      
      “New Zealand is experiencing unprecedented impacts from global warming. ”
      
      And lies.
      
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      January 2, 2019 3:29pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The thing is rc… you know very well that I’m not one of the global warming alarmists, but as a citizen of NZ, I am a party to our Nation’s commitment to the Paris Accord.
        
        Like it or lump it, we have to live with the rules our Governments have been imposing on us and our businesses.
        
        Awatere is bang-on with identifying 4 proposals in the new ETS that are detrimental to long-term sustainable forestry in NZ.
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:42pm
      - realityczech
        
        I agree with you on that Maggy.
        
        We should leave the Paris Accord and focus on protecting our environment, not changing the world. And that focus needs to shift from the rural communities to the biggest polluters – middle class pricks living in cities.
        
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        January 2, 2019 3:49pm
      - Surely Knott
        
        Hilarious, post on the Standard today. As the poster, who claims to believe in climate change, but doesn’t want to give up any holiday air travel and is wondering if the extra $6 he pays for carbon credits per flight means he can carry on without changing his lifestyle. $6 that’s all it takes . Carry on comrades.
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:59pm
KeaRea

Wow the assumptions and emotions of Kiwiblog are so incredibly brittle. This is why we will win all the 14 year old boys. Because they know bullshit when they see it.

1) ideas aren’t in-personam.
The fact ‘my body my choice’ is a logical nonsense invented to subvert a profound truth isn’t about ‘you’.
2) no one on the right is going to be apologising for stating philosophical truths. Eventually, there are going to be civil wars over the truth I just stated. Because the actual right as opposed to the failed conservatives, I must emphasise ‘isn’t going to apologise’.

I’ll make myself absent for a while.

Can everyone here please unsubscribe to Stefan Molyneux – he would be pretty unimpressed.
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January 2, 2019 1:43pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  2) no one on the right is going to be apologising for stating philosophical truths.
  
  “Philosophical truths?” Interesting. Philosophy is to a great extent the study of how you tell whether something’s true or not, but that tends to lead to philosophers being very wary about declaring their opinions to be truth. Can you identify one of these alleged “philosophical truths” right-wingers are stating so unapologetically?
  
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  January 2, 2019 4:07pm
stephieboy

Can somebody guide me as to who this“wimmin” is? and who made these fabulist and absurd claims,

“I write for New Zealand’s most popular political blog http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil won the NZ Canon Media Award for best blog. The controversy from our win and the threatened boycotts from the Left were so bad that Canon asked for the award back. We said no.”
Since August 2016

https://gab.ai/Spanishbride

And especially here ,

Jacinda is leading lambs to the slaughter
by SB on January 2, 2019 at 11:00am
As commenter Veridian pointed out on the blog recently, Jacinda Ardern is not a friend of women or a protector of women. Like Angela Merkel she is leading her fellow women to the slaughter. quote.

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2019/01/jacinda-is-leading-lambs-to-the-slaughter/?fbclid=IwAR1XjBGkwqqaPb57y20RG1pUgXfj-CIHhhHqiNgNF3RJj2IbjgkbSDDy8fo
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January 2, 2019 3:17pm
- Swifty
  
  What is absurd is the notion held by some NZers that importing people from cultures which put the ‘law’ of their God above all else, who regard women as second class citizens with less rights than men, who look upon people of no or different faiths as less human – will all end in fairies, unicorns and rainbows.
  
  The recklessness of the stupidity of these NZers is beneath contempt.
  
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  January 2, 2019 3:31pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stephieboy:
  
  Can somebody guide me as to who this“wimmin” is?
  
  Her identity is well-known, but why do you care, and why did you put quote marks around “wimmin”? By the way, have you told Maggy that you’ve found someone else to target in 2019?
  
  And can you guide us as to what Nostalgia-NZ and Stars and Stripes are referring to?
  
  Nostalgia-NZ: [Stephieboy] has skeletons in his closet … [he] is losing the plot so much now he seems totally comparable with his idol when he decided to ‘tidy up’ his sick life
  
  Stars and Stripes: I know why [Stephieboy] is like he is
  
  And Holysheet would like an answer to his question!
  
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  January 2, 2019 3:47pm
  - nasska
    
    I reckon that Boy must have a masochistic streak Nostra. Maggy regularly hands him his arse & now he’s going after SB who’d be the smartest cookie & the best writer on Whale’s site.
    
    He’s about as clued up as a slowly-stewed rhubarb stalk. 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 3:56pm
  - Swifty
    
    That’s chilling.
    
    Just what skeletons does Stiffy have hiding?
    
    It makes one shudder at the thought.
    
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    January 2, 2019 4:14pm
- Longknives
  
  By signing that ‘Migration Pact’ fraud Ardern has signed the Death Warrant of so many New Zealand women and children.
  It will take a few years for Kiwis to wake up and actually realise what this vile woman has done but one thing is for sure- History will not remember her kindly..
  
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  January 2, 2019 4:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    I hope the first victim is her wretched spoor of the cursed union. I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences. I want her disgusting brat to suffer hideously so she can know the pain she inflicted on millions of others.
    
    [DPF: You need to see a psychiatrist. That is also Strike 7 and a three month suspension]
    
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    January 2, 2019 4:18pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Fuck that’s more than a little OTT.
      
      You need to chill the hell out and stop being a fucking cunt.
      
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      January 2, 2019 4:23pm
      - Longknives
        
        To be fair to realityczech- This Labour/Green Government are quite happy for my kids to become ‘Collateral Damage’…
        So why should I give a fuck about Ardern’s kid?
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:26pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        hey I’m as unhappy as the next guy about Winston the thief and traitor and prime minister stardust.
        
        But making comments like that about someone else over politics is BS.
        Making comments about their kids is complete BS, and when it’s a baby girl it’s fucking shithouse.
        
        Fuck RC and to be frank, fuck you for supporting that shit.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:30pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Fuck that’s more than a little OTT.
        You need to chill the hell out and stop being a fucking cunt.”
        
        Here come the sleazy virtue signallers.
        
        Tell ya what have it your way – Who’s kid do you volunteer, yours ?
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:33pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Isn’t the whole point that no-one faces the shit you have just wished on others?
        
        Nah you’re just a bitter sad mother fucker who has lost the plot. I’m not a virtue signaller, you’re a sad cunt
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:41pm
      - Longknives
        
        You do realise that Labour /Greens intend on closing ALL prisons and releasing ALL crims back into society? (Every rapist, murderer and child predator..)
        And that Ardern’s puppet Andrew Little said he was prepared to accept ‘Collateral Damage’ when they do this??
        Throw in the Migration Pact (Open fucking Borders!) and it is clear that Ardern and her lunatic Government are quite happy to play games and endanger my/your kid’s lives…
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:48pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        So what we do Longknives is work to protect every child we can.
        Someone hurts my kids I will pay it back twofold, and unlike some of the keyboard warriors here I can and would.
        But if we drop to the level of wishing harm on others we are as bad, or worse than those we are complaining about.
        I’m surprised that you are taking this point of view.
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:53pm
      - realityczech
        
        Who do you wish it on then?
        
        Name the victims you choose for the grooming gangs?
        
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        January 2, 2019 4:54pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        RC you have just taken the crown of chief window-licker from Mossey.
        
        Go look it up dumbarse.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        We are still waiting for who YOU want as the first victim?
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        “unlike some of the keyboard warriors here I can and would.”
        
        Are you threatening people with violence, to show how you oppose violence?
        
        You really are a sleazy little coward and no protector of kids either. Yuk !
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:03pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Fuck me… while looking up window-licker add Mong to the list…
        
        So RC the fucking Mong.
        
        If someone brings violence to my life or threatens my family I would be happy to reply in kind. That doesn’t mean I wish harm on others baby, that’s just fucking sick.
        We know you are a sick bastard though, you show that often.
        
        A sick, window licking Mong.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        What Awful wants for your kids – but not Ardern’s
        
        “TODAY I FOUND OUT THAT THE DAUGHTER OF ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS WAS GANG-RAPED BY FOREIGN MEN INSIDE OF A FLAT IN MALMBERGET THE NIGHT LEADING TO SATURDAY. THE GIRL IS STILL SO YOUNG AND HER LIFE IS NOW RUINED!”
        
        https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/10/swedish-media-try-to-cover-up-gang-rape-of-girl-by-muslim-migrants-facebook-censored-posts-as-well/
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:10pm
      - realityczech
        
        “That doesn’t mean I wish harm on others baby, that’s just fucking sick.”
        
        I don’t wish harm on anyone. I simply pointed out that if Ardern’s decision results in harm to kids then I hope it is hers and not some average joes little girl.
        
        Why are you defending gang rape of kids?
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:12pm
      - Longknives
        
        I certainly don’t wish any harm on Ardern and Gayford’s kid.
        I feel sorry for it though- As I’m sure one day it will realise it’s whole existence has been some kind of twisted publicity stunt to further it’s Mum’s career…
        
        You will never convince me that Ardern and co wouldn’t celebrate the demise of one of my kids though- I honestly think they are that morally bankrupt and utterly ruthless in their ambition…(Look at how she cashed in on the death of that poor tourist girl..)
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:17pm
      - realityczech
        
        Knives, you are not getting it. Awful is okay with kids being harmed, just not Ardern’s or his.
        
        The rest are fair game for the new arrivals.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:22pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        RC the window licking Mong, don’t put words into mouth so to speak, you purposefully changing things to suit your argument. The tactic of losers like Ardern is using your amazing logic, you are a fan of Ardern’s because you argue in the same way she does.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:31pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Longknives. The saying that goes something along the lines “don’t credit malice to that what is simply incompetence” is, IMHO written with Ardern in mind.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:35pm
    - Komata
      
      Rc
      
      A bit much old chap! It’s not the child’s fault she’s got the parents she has; if anything she should be pitied as being a helpless pawn for her mother’s ambitions.
      
      If anything I would suggest that you should feel sorry for her, to the extent that having been thrown and dragged-around like a trophy, one wonders if CYFS should be brought in on the basis of ‘Child abuse’.
      
      Hopefully the Nanny is kind…
      
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      January 2, 2019 5:25pm
      - realityczech
        
        Here is another one. Maybe this one will answer the question…
        
        Q. Komata, when the first little girl is attacked – who’s child do you select?
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:33pm
      - simpleton1
        
        We need some one with Solomon’s wisdom, on how to cut the baby in half.
        
        Is there some one in the political realm that can do this?
        To cut this “gorgon knot” of the UN, global migration pacts, IPCC .
        
        To fine tune the direction of NZ for the good of the country and its current people.
        
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        January 2, 2019 5:54pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        We need someone with Solomon’s wisdom
        
        Solomon’s wisdom identified the real mother.
        The mother was willing to give up her child to ensure it survived.
        
        The welfare of all our children should be the priority for our leaders.
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:07pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      Oi czech pull your head in. No child (or anybody else for that matter) deserves to be spoken about in that manner.
      
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      January 3, 2019 4:33pm
Steve (North Shore)

An old German Shepherd starts chasing rabbits and before long, discovers that he’s lost. Wandering about, he notices a panther heading rapidly in his direction with the intention of having lunch.
The old German Shepherd thinks, “Oh, oh! I’m in deep shit now!”
Noticing some bones on the ground close by, he immediately settles down to chew on the bones with his back to the approaching cat. Just as the panther is about to leap, the oldGerman Shepherd exclaims loudly,
“Boy, that was one delicious panther! I wonder, if there are any more around here?”

Hearing this, the young panther halts his attack in mid-strike, a look of terror comes over him and he slinks away into the trees.
“Whew!,” says the panther, “That was close! That old German Shepherd nearly had me!”
Meanwhile, a squirrel who had been watching the whole scene from a nearby tree, figures he can put this knowledge to good use and trade it for protection from the panther. So, off he goes.
The squirrel soon catches up with the panther, spills the beans and strikes a deal for himself with the panther.
The young panther is furious at being made a fool of and says, “Here, squirrel, hop on my back and see what’s going to happen to that conniving canine!”

Now, the old German Shepherd sees the panther coming with the squirrel on his back and thinks, “What am I going to do now?,” but instead of running, the dog sits down with his back to his attackers, pretending he hasn’t seen them yet, and just when they get close enough to hear, the old German Shepherd says…

“Where’s that squirrel? I sent him off an hour ago to bring me another panther!”

Moral of this story…
Don’t mess with the old dogs… Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery!
Bull Shit and brilliance only come with age and experience.
Us oldies are old for a reason.
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January 2, 2019 3:29pm
- Jazzby
  
  Maybe you’re familiar with P J O’Rourke’s brilliant book; “Age and Guile beat Youth, Innocence and a Bad Haircut”!
  
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  January 2, 2019 6:18pm
  - Morrissey
    
    P.J. O’Rourke “brilliant”?
    
    You jest, surely. Anyway, it was certainly funnier than anything that old fool has written.
    
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    January 3, 2019 5:02pm
MH

even Waka Nathan would have smiled.
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January 2, 2019 3:47pm
dcrown

This is outrageous, democrats are now opening calling for the genocide of every republican.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/actress-jane-curtins-new-years-resolution-to-make-sure-the-republican-party-dies-riles-twitter-jane-you-ignorant/

Blue check twitter is currently supporting this. They should all be kicked off the site, but won’t. Disgraceful!
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January 2, 2019 3:52pm
- Longknives
  
  What- Die just like Jane Curtin’s career?
  Wasn’t Kate and Allie cancelled in about 1987??
  
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  January 2, 2019 4:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Old news. Not only that, they have carried out a couple of mass slaughters. They can tell they are Republicans by their skin colour.
  
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  January 2, 2019 4:31pm
KevOB

The USA disease coming to a body politic near you.
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January 2, 2019 4:34pm
Jack5

A Lefty, gay Christchurch city councillor is meeting with the police and a representative of Labour to call for a crackdown on boy racers in the city.

Christchurch central is being slowed to near stand-still by cyclists an cycle ways and by bus lanes, and the roads are full of potholes. This ain’t Autobahn City.

But the mob being assembled wants to persecute largely normal young guys who love cars.

The media have whipped up the feelings of sleep-disturbed suburbanites into righteous anger – “the cops have gotta stop this!”

There are cycle paths and trails every bloody where in Christchurch and Canterbury. Why don’t the local bodies organise some burn-up pads and a circuit for the boy racers instead of urging the police to persecute them. The police have real criminals to catch.

Usually, a councillor’s sexual orientation is irrelevant to an issue. But the councillor, Deon Swiggs, is described by Wikipedia as the “first openly out Christchurch councilor who supports the LGBTIQ generously.”

Wikipedia adds:”… Until Swiggs was 5, he was raised at Parihaka Pa as a Christian.” Parihaka, as everyone has been taught and taught, was the scene of peaceful and passive Maori resistance to the white c-o-l-o-n-i-a-l-i-s-t-s.

So here, it looks as though we could have a canyon between Swiggs, on one side, and, on the other side, car-loving young men and women. A canyon in beliefs, in lifestyle, and probably in politics.

Boy racers, from the ones I’m aware of, are typical heterosexual, female-chasing, boisterous young men with, or looking for girlfriends. Just like a lot of us used to be.

With modestly priced Japanese imports, suitable, relatively inexpensive cars are in the reach of many red-blooded young folk.

Why doesn’t the Christchurch City Council, instead of whipping up a lynch mob, get some facilities where these young people can race cars and practise skids safely without annoying ratepayers?

If adventure parks for cyclists and runners are worthwhile council projects, why not tracks and skid pans for young car lovers?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/379324/crackdown-urged-over-city-s-boy-racers
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January 2, 2019 5:27pm
- Jack5
  
  I notice, according to Stuff there’s already been one arrest. The young man “is facing several charges, including sustained loss of traction, dangerous driving, failing to stop for police and escaping custody.”
  
  I guess they’ll consider seizing his car and putting him in the slammer.
  
  Unlike the young Muslim refugee who planned to massacre Christchurch people in a car and knife attack, and ended up getting golf lessons.
  
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  January 2, 2019 5:42pm
- Longknives
  
  How weird that Deon Swiggs has suck a freaking MASSIVE Wikipedia page!
  The dude is only in his early 30s and to be honest, hasn’t really achieved all that much yet….
  Clearly he edits it himself.
  Weird.
  
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  January 2, 2019 6:36pm
Nostradamus

Oh dear!

New Year’s Eve 2018 typo projected onto Sydney Harbour Bridge

Sydney is one of the first cities on earth to ring in the new year, but revellers around the famous harbour could last night have been forgiven for winding their clocks back. As a spectacular fireworks display lit up the sky at midnight, a giant typo was beamed onto a Harbour Bridge pylon telling the crowd it was still 2018.
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January 2, 2019 5:27pm
- rangitoto
  
  Close enough for Aussies.
  
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  January 2, 2019 5:36pm
- howitis
  
  Still bedda than moozlems who are in the 1400s
  
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  January 2, 2019 10:26pm
Don the Kiwi

The global warming debate still rages out of control; from the American Thinker:
“The big theme of the “Meet the Press” presentation was that climate change is here and it is very bad. This completely mistaken claim was supported by various anecdotes from people that experienced floods, fires, or hurricanes. Floods are not new. For example, it is instructive to read the Wikipedia entry “Floods in California”. The great flood of 1861-1862 was far worse than anything since. Compared to the Great New England Hurricane of 1938, the 2012 superstorm Sandy was minor. The Great Prestigo fire in 1871, in Wisconsin, killed 1500 people. In comparison, the recent Camp Fire in California killed 89 people and burned less land. A major factor in forest fires is the suppression of fires, allowing fuel to build to the point where the fire becomes so violent that it can’t be easily suppressed.

Floods, droughts, heat waves, and tornados have been around forever and they aren’t getting any worse. But people’s memories fade with time, so the most recent weather outrage always seem to be worse than past outrages. So, it is clever to claim that carbon dioxide is causing extreme weather. It seems plausible because yesteryear’s bad weather has faded in our memories, or perhaps we only know about previous extreme weather because our parents or grandparents told us about it. Climate scientist John Christy provided written testimony to the House Energy and Power Subcommittee that demolishes the extreme weather thesis.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/
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January 2, 2019 5:35pm
- nasska
  
  …..”floods, fires, or hurricanes”…..
  
  Of course they’ve got nothing to do with carbon dioxide…….they’re “Acts of God”.
  
  Ask any insurance company. 🙂
  
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  January 2, 2019 5:49pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Hotel window falls on car
    
    In September last year a first-year teacher left his car parked outside Wellington’s Amora Hotel on a windy Wellington day while he had breakfast with his parents who were guests at the hotel. The strong winds caused a window to blow out, landing on his 2000 Nissan Pulsar and damaging its windscreen, side window and bodywork.
    
    He had only third-party car insurance. So while he was covered for accidental damage to another person’s vehicle or property, he wasn’t covered for damage to his own car. He would have been covered if he’d had comprehensive car insurance.
    
    Amora had insurance but it wasn’t considered legally liable because the incident was an act of God caused by a “storm event” beyond the hotel’s control. The teacher wasn’t happy with the response and so the case was investigated by Chartis Insurance, the hotel’s insurer. He has since received $4200 in damages from them.
    
    So God picks on a first-year teacher while he’s eating breakfast then, after much consideration, the hotel’s insurer decides that it wasn’t an act of God after all!
    
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    January 2, 2019 6:01pm
    - nasska
      
      The scum running claims departments of insurance companies will do anything to squirm out of paying.
      
      Even to the extent of shifting the blame onto mythical deities.
      
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      January 2, 2019 6:08pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        But of course. Fully Insured until you make a claim. ACC is a perfect example – and I won.
        Oh boy, I am in moderation for saying that
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:36pm
      - Tall Man
        
        That is not and was not the case here.
        
        The claim would have been legitimately declined unless there was evidence of negligence by the hotel that has not been advised. I more likely suspect the hotel paid to avoid negative publicity and to retain a possibly good client…the parents, not the teacher.
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:26pm
      - GazzaW
        
        I’m sure those buggers must be on some sort of an incentive scheme based on the amounts that they save their employers either by talking down the amounts for claims lodged or even refusing claims based on a technicality.
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:45pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Is there a specific legal test for determining which event is an act of (a) god as opposed to no one’s fault at all? How does the insurer recover damages from (a) god? Does it depend upon the religious beliefs of the hotel owner, or of the hotel owners insurer?
      We need answers.
      
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      January 2, 2019 6:12pm
      - nasska
        
        More importantly……who is God insured with & has He paid His premiums? 🙂
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:16pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        And if one believes in more than one god does that require multiple policies? Do atheists have to insure against acts of imaginary deities?
        
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        January 2, 2019 6:20pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Act of god is a misnomer.
        
        Basically the first year fuckwit wasn’t insured as he only carried third party.
        
        Why the hotel insurer paid is a mystery to me as they would have had to be “negligent” in some way for their Liability insurance to cover this event.
        
        Unless they were remiss with maintenance, ignored a faulty window mount with impending bad weather they were not and should not be liable…imho.
        
        Could someone also explain to me how the fuck a shitty old Pulsar is/was worth $4200 for windows and a bit of body damage. Even a total loss would not generate that level of settlement..so Mike, “god”, “God” or “gods” are not responsible for anything..imho 😉
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:16pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Also this was from 2012 so maybe post Christchurch the insurer was feeling jittery.
        
        The full story was on Stuff but initially the hotel accepted liability which is possibly the reason AON backed down.
        
        Plus there was significant drivel being spouting incorrectly by Consumer so sometimes a company decides the fight ain’t worth the effort.
        
        It may be worth following up whether the insurer paid this or the hotel did allowing the insurer to wear the decision on the off chance there were further pathetic wallies out there lining up.
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:22pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”how the fuck a shitty old Pulsar is/was worth $4200’….
        
        The article by the Consumers Institute didn’t say when the damage occurred. If it was in 2005 (say) $4200 wouldn’t be excessive.
        
        In any case why shouldn’t anyone be able to park outside a building with the reasonable expectation that bits & pieces of it won’t become detached in wind?
        
        The building was in Wellington where anything less than a 50knot norwester is considered a gentle zephyr!
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:24pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        This is the article that Tall Man is referring to.
        
        A hotel refused to compensate a Wellington man after a window blew out in high winds and damaged his car because its insurance broker says it is an act of God.
        
        Here’s my take:
        
        1. The teacher only had a third party car insurance policy. So he parked at his own risk. It’s the same as if he’d parked in a parking building.
        2. The teacher may have had an actionable tort claim against the hotel (if he could prove negligence based on well-established legal principles and – a big if here – if he was prepared to pay litigation costs).
        3. The hotel’s public liability insurance may have responded to the claim (depending on the policy wording). If not, then it’s a case of “shit happens”, The hotel owner (as distinct from the hotel insurer) may decide to pay out anyway to avoid negative publicity.
        
        The lesson: get comprehensive car insurance!
        
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        January 2, 2019 7:57pm
      - nasska
        
        This retired cocky’s legal advice:
        
        …..” It’s the same as if he’d parked in a parking building.”…..
        
        If he’d parked in such a building he would have entered into a contract. This coot presumably parked in a public street.
        
        …..” The hotel owner (as distinct from the hotel insurer) may decide to pay out anyway to avoid negative publicity.”……
        
        And a very wise move it would be. I would suggest that till takings would take a beating if it was publicly known that the building was falling apart. If I was the owner of the car I would forgo legal proceeding in favour of a full page in the DomPost advising prospective guests to go elsewhere should they value their lives.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:19pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Just to close out our discussion on this:
        
        If he’d parked in such a building he would have entered into a contract. This coot presumably parked in a public street.
        
        Yes – we’re both saying the same thing. A parking building owner limits its contractual liability. My point, though, was that if you want to be protected, get comprehensive car insurance. Otherwise you’re at the mercy of a third party, regardless of whether you park on the street or in a parking building.
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:31pm
Lee C

I heard about a guy who had his canine sheep-herder knock his car into ‘drive’ as he got out to open a gate. The car careered into a ditch and over turned. Fortunately the hound was shaken, but not injured. The car was in a bad way.
The insurance company refused to pay up as the pooch was not a ‘named driver’ and besides, the farmer hadn’t got cover for ‘..acts of dog’.
Eye thenkyu.
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January 2, 2019 6:41pm
EAD_THREE

Up thread, the commentator “Jack5” made the extraordinary claim that Jews had very little to do with the Russian Revolution.

Is he therefore calling Sir Winston Churchill a liar when he wrote this on the subject of International Jews in 1920 in the article Zionism vs. Bolshevism

The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution.

It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

Looking forward to Jack’s considered response ?
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January 2, 2019 6:49pm
- Nostradamus
  
  EAD:
  
  DigNap15 has observed:
  
  Yes in my experienve KBers are active from 8 till 12. Then they go awol, and a few nutters come back about 6 or 8 oclock and dis each other, talk about goats and Jews.
  
  Realityczech won’t be with us for a while:
  
  [DPF: You need to see a psychiatrist. That is also Strike 7 and a three month suspension]
  
  So to keep DigNap15 happy, could you manage to do a daily “Jews” comment? The rest of us can take care of the “dis each other” and “talk about goats” (with help from Stephieboy) points!
  
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  January 2, 2019 7:00pm
  - Swifty
    
    Kea has been unhinged these last few days – even worse then normal.
    
    He needs a break.
    
    Hopefully he’ll get one.
    
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    January 2, 2019 7:26pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      He needs therapy
      
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      January 2, 2019 7:58pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        He is hardly unique on Kiwiblog in that regard. There are some very nasty people around whose worst instincts are encouraged by the anonymity of a tepidly moderated blog. And then there are the excellent and virtuous trolls, like me…
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:05pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I couldn’t have described you better Mike ??
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:14pm
    - Longknives
      
      Agreed Mikey! There are some absolute freaks…
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:30pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Will see what I can do Nosty but no promises – tis the time o year I try minimise my time spent talking on serious matters.
    
    I missed RCs ban. His point is very valid – “I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences” – but could have perhaps been better expressed❗
    
    On that topic – have you ever noticed how few of the Politico elite have children who won’t be around to face the worst of the consequences of their actions? Savant made that exact same point recently:
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/07/?m=0
    
    Because this threat, destroying our heritage, ethnic solidarity and the family structure on which both are based, will not really affect me given my age. The same cannot be said for my children, and my children’s children. I dread to think what their world will be like say in another twenty to thirty years.
    
    In fact that world will surely, if present trends continue, be terrible for all Whites, even the so-called elites leading the destruction. Surely Europe’s most powerful leaders must share my concerns to some degree? Well no. Because, incredibly, and in defiance of statistical norms, the majority of Europe’s leaders, especially those from the most powerful countries, are barren and childless. I researched the subject and ticked off the list with mounting incredulity.
    
    Angela Merkel
    
    Theresa May
    Emmanuel Macron
    
    Paolo Gentiloni (Italian prime minister up to a few months ago)
    
    Holland’s Mark Rutte
    
    Sweden’s Stefan Loumlfven
    
    Luxembourg’s Xavier Bettel
    
    Scotland’s Nicola Sturgeon
    
    “Ireland’s” Leo Varadkar
    
    Jean-Claude Druncker and now Martin Selmayr, the guy parachuted in against the rules to succeed Druncker
    
    This is absolutely stunning and would have been virtually impossible at any other time in human history. Whatever’s driving the most powerful EU leaders it’s not the future of their children and their children’s children.
    
    The other thing is that many of those with Children such as David Cameron, George Osborne, The Miliband Brothers, Sarkozy etc. are all eligible to move back to Israel when Europe collapses due to being of the blood.
    
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    January 2, 2019 7:37pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Will see what I can do Nosty but no promises – tis the time o year I try minimise my time spent talking on serious matters.
    
    I missed RCs ban. His point is very valid – “I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences” – but could have perhaps been better expressed❗
    
    On that topic – have you ever noticed how few of the Politico elite have children who won’t be around to face the worst of the consequences of their actions? Savant made that exact same point recently:
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/07/?m=0
    
    Because this threat, destroying our heritage, ethnic solidarity and the family structure on which both are based, will not really affect me given my age. The same cannot be said for my children, and my children’s children. I dread to think what their world will be like say in another twenty to thirty years.
    
    In fact that world will surely, if present trends continue, be terrible for all Whites, even the so-called elites leading the destruction. Surely Europe’s most powerful leaders must share my concerns to some degree? Well no. Because, incredibly, and in defiance of statistical norms, the majority of Europe’s leaders, especially those from the most powerful countries, are barren and childless. I researched the subject and ticked off the list with mounting incredulity.
    
    Angela Merkel
    
    Theresa May
    Emmanuel Macron
    
    Paolo Gentiloni (Italian prime minister up to a few months ago)
    
    Holland’s Mark Rutte
    
    Sweden’s Stefan Loumlfven
    
    Luxembourg’s Xavier Bettel
    
    Scotland’s Nicola Sturgeon
    
    “Ireland’s” Leo Varadkar
    
    Jean-Claude Druncker and now Martin Selmayr, the guy parachuted in against the rules to succeed Druncker
    
    This is absolutely stunning and would have been virtually impossible at any other time in human history. Whatever’s driving the most powerful EU leaders it’s not the future of their children and their children’s children.
    
    The other thing is that many of those with Children such as David Cameron, George Osborne, The Miliband Brothers, Sarkozy etc. are all eligible to move back to Israel when Europe collapses.
    
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    January 2, 2019 7:40pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Will see what I can do Nosty but no promises – tis the time of year I try minimise my time spent talking on serious matters.
    
    But if I’m not making a point or 2 each day about the Jewish question, the blog will become compleltley unbalanced with about 60 people criticising Muslims/Maori, about
    8 people criticism of Whites but nothing on the Jews❗
    
    But back to the subject of RCs ban. His point is very valid – “I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences” – but could have perhaps been better expressed…..
    
    On that topic – have you ever noticed how few of the Politico elite have children who won’t be around to face the worst of the consequences of their actions? Savant had that exact same observation recently in this excellent piece:
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/07/?m=0
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:05pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Will see what I can do Nosty but no promises – tis the time of year I try minimise my time spent talking on Political blogs….
    
    But seriously, if I’m not about to make a point or 2 each day in the Jewish question, the blog will become completely unbalanced with about 60 people criticising Muslims/Maori, about 8 people criticism of Whites, perhaps 12 on Chinese/Indians but nothing on the Jews❗?
    
    But back to the subject of RCs ban…. His point – “I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences” – is very valid but could have perhaps been better expressed…..
    
    On that topic – have you ever noticed how few of the Euro Politico elite have children who won’t be around to face the worst of the consequences of their actions? Savant had that exact same observation recently in this excellent piece:
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/07/?m=0
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:07pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Will see what I can do Nosty but no promises – tis the time of year I try minimise my time spent talking on Political blogs….
    
    But seriously, if I’m not about to make a point or 2 each day in the Jewish question, the blog will become completely unbalanced with about 60 people criticising Muslims/Maori, about 8 people criticism of Whites, perhaps 12 on Chinese/Indians but nothing on the Jews❗?
    
    But back to the subject of RCs ban…. His point – “I’m sick of ordinary people paying the price of decisions made by an elite who are removed from the consequences” – is very valid but could have perhaps been better expressed…..
    
    On that topic – have you ever noticed how few of the Euro Politico elite have children who won’t be around to face the worst of the consequences of their actions? Savant had that exact same observation recently in this excellent piece:
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:12pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      ‘Savant’? Was he the guy that played Kojak?
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:16pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        link below:
        
        http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/07/for-our-children-and-our-childrens.html?m=0
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:15pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        For some reason when I post the link to Savants piece, it is flagged as spam….
        
        To read it, Google “Irish Savant, For our Children and our children’s Children”
        
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        January 2, 2019 9:31pm
nasska

According to the Global Drug Survey conducted in NZ in 2017:

90.7 per cent
Drank alcohol in the past year
38.6 per cent
Used cannabis in the past year
7.8 per cent
Used MDMA in the past year
6.3 per cent
Used LSD in the past year
3.1 per cent
Used methamphetamine in the past year
4.3 per cent
Used cocaine in the past year

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92677551/global-drug-survey-2017-how-kiwis-are-using-drugs-and-booze

The reason I comment on this is DPF’s sidebar link to the post by ‘Public Address’ re the drug scare at the R&V Festival at Gisborne. The author explores the implications & efficiency of drug testing apparatus used. Also discussed is the conflict of MDMA being tested openly whilst being an illegal drug.

It is a post that if replicated here would attract halfwit conservatives & Godstalkers who reckon that there’s never been a war on drugs & all that it would take is a few hundred kids put up against walls & shot by firing squads to sort out the problem. All typed while looking through the end of an empty gin bottle.

I have eight grandkids, all of an age likely to attend such a festival……doubtlessly other readers would be in a similar position.

My question is, should they be sacrificed because a few fossilised fuckwits consider drugs other than alcohol to be the work of the devil?
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January 2, 2019 6:56pm
- Longknives
  
  Get your Grandkids into rock music mate! Not shithouse ‘doof doof’ techno crap where you need to be fucked out of your mind to enjoy it…
  *I have young relatives (University Students) who go to Rock Concerts and aren’t interested in the ‘Party Drug’ scene…Not all kids are into that shit!
  
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  January 2, 2019 7:19pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Not all kids are into that shit!”…..
    
    Fair enough but what about the rest? Are they hostage to your reactionary ideals?
    
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    January 2, 2019 7:41pm
    - Longknives
      
      I’m pretty okay with Cannabis being legalised mate but there are a lot of other factors come into play when you are talking about pills and speed etc…
      
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      January 2, 2019 7:52pm
      - nasska
        
        Yes. I’m sympathetic to the Portuguese answer when it comes to meth (speed) & opiates. ie compulsory treatment rather than Court ordered penalties.
        
        But marijuana use should be legalised, taxed & the revenue used to treat those who can’t handle it much in the same way as alcohol should be. In other words pre pay for your own treatment should you need it.
        
        When weighing up MDMA I’m drawn to Jimmy Carter’s quote:
        
        …..”“Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed.”……
        
        I suggest that the impurities in the drug, enabled by its illegal status, are the problem.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Correct nasska. All psychoactive substances should be regulated as per alcohol and tobacco. It always amazes me that the conservonutters pretend to stand for ‘freedom’ while drunkenly condemning people for enjoying some other substance.
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:10pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yes, because rock music is completely dissociated with drugs…
    Just because you manged to score and ban for Kea while having your own scummy comments overlooked shouldn’t lead you to believe you are making any sense at all, or ever have.
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:08pm
    - Longknives
      
      Love you too Mikey xx
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:22pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      “Yes, because rock music is completely dissociated with drugs…”
      
      Two words: Keith Richards
      
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      January 3, 2019 5:32pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Maybe the alert should have an instruction for the customers to find their supplier and demonstrate their disapproval in what ever manner they see fit.
  
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  January 2, 2019 7:40pm
- Harriet
  
  “……My question is, should they be sacrificed because a few fossilised fuckwits consider drugs other than alcohol to be the work of the devil?………….90.7 per cent Drank alcohol in the past year……”
  
  And you will find that about 88% drank alcohol at the end of the working day – while the remaining 2.7% drank throughout the day.
  
  In other words – people who take drugs have a tendency to take them throughout the day — importantly dole figures tell us so —- as more drug addicts are on the dole – percentage wise – than alcoholics.
  
  It’s not a matter of religion Nassty, but a matter of thinking about what you see in the news paper and on TV — — You didn’t really believe that Stuff were giving you all the facts did you?. 😎
  
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  January 2, 2019 8:12pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I’ve always been a fan of Harriet’s imaginary statistics.
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:25pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Can you disprove her stats?
      
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      January 3, 2019 10:16am
  - nasska
    
    Frankly Harriet, me old mate……I’d even believe a lying pack of bastards like Stuff before I would give any credit to the opinions of a religious, conservative, reactionary, hopelessly biased fuckwit.
    
    But in the words of Xavier Hollander, “Different strokes for different folks or Wall St & me”. 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 8:26pm
    - Longknives
      
      I know quite a few Stoners.
      (Some close family members spend most of their benefit on weed….)
      I’m a boozer but I know that you don’t drink Scotch for breakfast.
      All the Stoners I know smoke up as soon as they wake…and keep going throughout the day.
      It’s like comparing apples and oranges….
      
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      January 2, 2019 8:34pm
      - Longknives
        
        I should add that I am kind of supportive of Decriminalisation…
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:35pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I don’t support decriminalisation but I’d like you to explain why whisky isn’t a breakfast food…… 😉
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:45pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”I’m a boozer but I know that you don’t drink Scotch for breakfast.
        All the Stoners I know smoke up as soon as they wake”…..
        
        I’m a dry alcoholic & I know that a glass of something very full of alcohol is the preferred breakfast beverage of many. I also know of a few stoners who are fried 24/7.
        
        But most don’t. The bloke/bird who relaxes with a toke of evenings is the same as their counterpart who knocks back a few beers after work.
        
        Why are one example treated differently to the other?
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:48pm
      - Longknives
        
        ‘All things in moderation’ is my philosophy Nasska (Hence my support for Decriminalisation of Cannabis)
        But I must say that in my experience the casual dope smoker is very much the minority…
        I’m honestly not sure why but for some reason dope smokers seem to think ‘all day every day’ is the way to go.
        Don’t believe me? Head up to the far North and see what those guys do all day…And I mean ALL fucking day…
        
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        January 2, 2019 8:55pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Harriet:
    
    about 88% … the remaining 2.7%
    …
    You didn’t really believe that Stuff were giving you all the facts did you?
    
    You might want to explain where the missing 9.3% went! 🙂
    
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    January 2, 2019 9:15pm
    - Tall Man
      
      88+2.7=90.7.
      
      Pretty sure harriet was just using the figures without extrapolation.
      
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      January 3, 2019 10:17am
Piniwi

Funny but possibly tragic for some as the COL move to decriminalize dope. Dodgy dope being peddled at music festivals while they are now belatedly considering the need for roadside testing. Expect the road toll to reach another record high in 2019 as they they kick another can down the road until they gain enough hindsight.
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January 2, 2019 10:11pm
- sooty
  
  Or are they just trying to alter the rules, alar, Helen Clark. Comrade JacinDUH has been caught out trying to cover the arse of her entertainment supplier of choice! Why, would you ask. To ensure the future supplies of entertainment supplies! Can’t have everyone sitting around like wall flys. Let’s party! Other wise it’s hands down pants and know how that turned out last time.
  
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  January 3, 2019 3:36pm
starboard

Morris seems to continually post this…

Morrissey
Hidden due to low comment rating.

buwhahahaha!
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January 2, 2019 10:16pm
- sooty
  
  Post of the day! I would think, Starboard!
  
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  January 3, 2019 3:27pm
Johnboy

Oh look! Another example for Little Mickys tax commitee to model fleecing the rich pricks on! 🙂

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/109712112/mexicos-temple-of-the-flayed-lord-discovered
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January 3, 2019 2:17pm
ex-golfer

Man wielding a knife involved in head-on crash driving on wrong side of motorway:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109714449/crash-closes-sh1-through-wellingtons-terrace-tunnel

Odds on he’s one of the hundreds of Somali refugees that roam around Wellington (or drive shitty taxi’s) ???

You know, the ones that Winston, Jacinda and Golriz the war-crim hugger want to open our borders too.
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January 3, 2019 2:31pm
- rouppe
  
  I can’t believe this has gone on for 6 or 7 hours. Put a net under him, then get up there and taser him.
  
  Enough already
  
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  January 3, 2019 6:34pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    A bullet would be easier and cheaper in the longer run.
    
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    January 3, 2019 6:39pm
sooty

Please Sir, may we have a new General Debate, tomorrow, will do!
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January 3, 2019 3:26pm
Johnboy

Good grief…..more lies from Stuff! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/motivate-me/109714652/i-lost-25kgs-then-put-the-weight-back-on–and-i-refuse-to-feel-bad-about-that
Good God I only got to 116kg and couldn’t see my (huge) dick! I suspect I’m a foot taller than her as well. How did this enormously obese woman get to paint her toenails?
More false news from Stuff! 🙂
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January 3, 2019 3:49pm
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  ps: Milkey, her Hubby, painted them for her! 🙂
  
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  January 3, 2019 3:52pm
  - sooty
    
    Mirror on a stick?
    
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    January 3, 2019 5:29pm
Doubledimp

The Captain of Captain and Tenille has kicked the bucket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Dragon
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January 3, 2019 5:20pm
Hugh Pavletich

China’s economic slowdown accelerates and sinks the Australian dollar … Sydney Morning Herald

https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/china-s-economic-slowdown-accelerates-and-sinks-our-dollar-20190103-p50pd2.html

How badly is China’s economy doing? Look behind the official GDP figures | South China Morning Post

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/united-states/article/2180471/how-badly-chinas-economy-doing-look-behind

China credit crunch is another red light to the global economy – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12185010
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January 3, 2019 8:26pm
dirty harry

You’re such a happy positive bastard Hugh.
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