General Debate 28 January 2019

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stigie

Im hoping us hetrosexuals arn’t ripped into again on the “Gay Conversation Therapy” by a certain person on here..?
It’s just too bloody hot !~
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January 28, 2019 8:01am
waikatogirl

Simon Bridges backs Sarah Dowie to stay as National MP. He says she has been an effective MP.
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January 28, 2019 8:01am
- Scott
  
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  She may have been an effective MP but her two year affair with Jami Lee Ross has not gone down well with her supporters back in invercargill.
  So far she has not commented. Is she going to apologise to anyone? Apparently she is separated from her husband now.
  It’s not a good look.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:17am
  - KevOB
    
    All MP”s have that risk: high achievers, high libido. Leave them i n peace.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:36am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      It’s not about libido. It’s about whether they are trustworthy and keep their promises.
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:46am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Sarcasm, right?
        
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        January 28, 2019 8:48am
      - Scott
        
        Nigel – I agree with you. Having been elected to what I presume is the safe seat of invercargill one would have expected we would only be reporting about her stellar accomplishments. I cannot imagine her election committee thought that when they sent her to Wellington to represent them she would embark on a two year affair with Jami Lee Ross.
        One would think she has let her supporters down and should at least apologise to them.
        
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        January 28, 2019 8:53am
      - Happychappy
        
        Isn’t it up to the voters to say whether Sarah Dowie stays or goes, especially if the Leader of National thinks she should stay.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:12am
      - Jack5
        
        Simon Bridges ought to ensure National’s letting local Southlanders decide who they want as the National candidate for Invercargill.
        
        Sarah Dowie had a margin of 5,579 votes at the last election, but was up against Liz Craig, now a Labour list MP, a medical doctor brought in from Dunedin. There has always been traditional rivalry between Southland and Otago.
        
        With disquiet in the Invercargill electorate over the importing of Chinese meat workers to replace locals, an old-style fiery Leftist could test National’s hold on Invercargill. Fortunately for National, the liberal elite who run Labour are unlikely to pick a candidate like that.
        
        Southlanders are perhaps New Zealand’s most conservative people, and the current election term is 16 months into the maximum of 38 months – April is the half-way mark.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:48am
    - kowtow
      
      All MP’s high achievers?
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:52am
      - Positan
        
        Some of life’s greatest non-events as people, and determinable non-achievers by any measure, are among the coalition’s List-seat holders.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:28am
      - sooty
        
        Post of the day.
        Well said!
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:37am
  - srylands
    
    She has nothing to apologise for to the public. Her familiy may be another matter, but that is not a matter of public interest.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:43am
  - Viking2
    
    Oh bullshit. there’s many an MP that has jumped beds. Locally I can tell of a couple. One was fine MP except it was too tough for his ticker.
    
    Its life and people.
    what’s done is done and no one can change that.
    
    Hasn’t gone down well with her supporters back in invercargill.
    
    Really and they have voted old bedhopper Tim in for how many years as Mayor.
    
    fucking hypocrites.
    Have they got a phone line to Invercargil yet? doesn’t seem like it.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:44am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and how many people where you work have or are having extra marital affairs?
    1. is it any of YOUR business?
    2. Should we have them sacked?
    3. Isn’t the past…the past…even criminals who have done their time, are left alone.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:50am
  - peterwn
    
    Nothing has significantly changed since it became generally known she had that relationship. The ‘Harmful Communication’ complaint is likely to go nowhere and this should not influence decision making (In the unlikely event she were to be found guilty she would automatically cease to be a MP anyway). The proper forum for any response would be the party’s electorate AGM to be held in the next month or two. If she conceded she is at the end of the road she would most probably consult with Simon on the most expedient time etc as this would trigger a byelection.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:50am
    - sooty
      
      Why leave?
      So what if she jumped in the sheets.
      At least it was not cross party bed hoppping, or a with a journalist!
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @Scott
    
    Politicians are allowed private lives. They are not on duty 24/365. As long as Ms Dowie is carrying out her electoral and party duties as expected, it shouldn’t be any concern to the great unwashed as to whether she is sleeping with her husband, a fellow MP, or her pussy cat.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:21am
    - Scott
      
      Really? Can’t agree sorry. Let’s look at the former mayor of Auckland and his dalliances. That affected a lot of people. Similarly the idea that you can represent the people of invercargill and behave however you like is very problematic?
      Surely there is a line somewhere?
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:47am
      - Pascal
        
        Yes, the line is between the office and outside. Len Brown had his dalliance inside the office. But everybody has the right to live their private lives as they see fit.
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:30am
      - sooty
        
        Lenny required the meeting room table to be replaced, when they found out!
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:47am
      - srylands
        
        He was doing his thing in the office and IIRC was using council funds to meet in hotels. Plus IIRC she was a council employee. Can’t you see the difference?
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:01am
      - srylands
        
        Just to be clear. Are you suggesting that an MP who has sex with someone other than their spouse should stand down from Parliament?
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:04am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Lennie used council:
        Premises
        Funds at hotels
        
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        January 28, 2019 12:55pm
      - Raniera
        
        @srylands @ 11:04AM
        
        “Just to be clear. Are you suggesting that an MP who has sex with someone other than their spouse should stand down from Parliament?”
        
        Speaking for myself, yes: when that MP’s extramarital activity is found out – by the public; when the betrayal was flagrant and sustained – we’re not talking about a quickie one-off, here; when the MP is socially conservative, and therefore reveals herself to be a hypocrite; when she brings her party into disrepute; when she fires off the “text of the year” for 2018.
        
        Dowie must either resign on 12 February (or thereabouts), or be de-selected later on. Either way, the MP for Invercargill after the next election must be someone other than her.
        
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        January 28, 2019 3:32pm
    - lastmanstanding
      
      Maggy. Its about Judgement. We should elect Pollies at least in part on their Judgement. Just as when I was employing people I looked at their ability to make good not bad decisions.
      
      Its not about morals or ethics or though these are important. Do I want to elect someone who is corrupt and on the take?
      
      Pollies and in fact anyone in governance must be held to the highest not the lowest standards.
      
      Afterall no one forces them to stand for election.
      
      If you want the job and the big pay check then you need to measure up and show you can make good quality decisions. That’s what you have been hired to do.
      
      Private and public judgements and decision making cannot be separated.
      
      You are what you are 24/7.
      
      You don’t go into the House and switch on your Good Decision Making and then leave the House and switch on your Bad Decision Making.
      
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      January 28, 2019 1:53pm
  - Paulus
    
    Other MP have been serial rooters outside Marriage so what is the difference, eh Trevor !
    She is considered a very good local MP but that is detracted by the left wing media.
    Am waiting the compliant media to name some of Ross’s other screws – especially the media ones, and believe there are at least two, one senior one.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:47am
    - kiwibird
      
      Why is the woman being berated and not the man as well ….. If there is a punishment for the “crime” then they should both be treated the same. If she is pushed to resign then he should be to..
      Curious situation.
      
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      January 28, 2019 11:49am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Maybe because JLR is just not worth disparaging any further ?
        
        Personally, I think it is a significant error on her part and one which has broken her marriage. What was she thinking about ? I happen to think that those who betray one person so thoroughly will likely betray others, and it does reflect upon their character. If you must have it off with someone else, be honest and get out of one relationship before you start the next. But YMMV, and if you think other people’s feelings are not your worry, I suppose you can just go for it.
        
        Is she a good MP, must say I hadn’t heard of her before.
        
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        January 28, 2019 12:11pm
      - Raniera
        
        @kiwibird @ 11:49AM
        
        He has been expelled from the party, and will lose his seat at the next election. Punishment enough.
        
        As for Dowie, it is by no means certain that she will be punished for her “crime”.
        
        We just have to wait and see how it all plays out.
        
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        January 28, 2019 4:17pm
- Gravelroad
  
  I’m really tired of hearing about the personal lives of MP’s.
  In work places I have been part of over the years, very few focussed on employee problems that were not work related.
  Sure it could be argued that mental health issues and relationship ethics can impact on employee performance, but it would be great if some of these MP’s could just turn their minds onto what the taxpayer is funding them for – governance of NZ.
  They are generally not “special” people – just a jumble of electeds and appointees of varying experience and quality.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:35am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I would be very disappointed if Bridges threw Dowie under a bus.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:36am
  - holysheet
    
    looking for an excuse to go back and vote for the drunken dwarf Chucky?
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:01am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      No need Simon has integrity unlike you.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:17am
      - holysheet
        
        What would you know about integrity.
        You were dumb enough to vote for the drunken dwarf thinking he would keep national honest.
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:15am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Making a mistake is not an indication of lack of integrity.
        
        You falsely accused me of lying when I said I was at the last National AGM. When I proved you wrong you did not have the decency to admit you were wrong let alone apologise.
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:43am
      - holysheet
        
        What proof?
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:33am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        The proof is that I would not say I was talking to our host at the AGM if I was not. If I get him or another National Party member to say I was there will you apologise?
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:45am
- Positan
  
  Personally, I feel very sad for Sarah Dowie. She had the misfortune to become emotionally tangled with a cretin like Jamie Lee Ross and as a consequence she’s lost so much.
  
  re Criminal charges over her txt – the matter should be seen and treated as the emotional reaction of a hurt woman and understood for what it was.
  
  As for the rest of us, I really wonder about the ones who now want to put the boot into her. What sort of righteous kick do they get? Such nose-lifting sanctimony does them no credit at all.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:41am
  - Scott
    
    Umm well positan we could look at it rather differently. She should be treated like everybody else. It was her choice to do what she did and she is a mature adult and has to be accountable for her own actions.
    Actions have consequences and her being female and good looking is not really an excuse.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:10am
  - RF
    
    The hairy noose has had many victims.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:47am
  - Paulus
    
    See Ross possibly going into Local Auckland Councils again.
    He and his wife Lucy Schwaner cause considerable mayhem last time they were involved. She is not politically sweet and lite either.
    Hope he has a go.
    Then he would understand he is toxic.
    Presumable he will still be an MP at the same time.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:52am
    - sooty
      
      He could stand for Mayor!
      
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      January 28, 2019 12:36pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Positan, there are no criminal charges.
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:39pm
  - Sacha
    
    Maybe her marital situation wasn’t all sunshine anyway – who can tell?
    As always we are getting only one side of the story, and a highly suspect one at that, given the characters telling us all about one ‘side’ of it.
    
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    January 28, 2019 3:31pm
- artemisia
  
  There may well have been a quiet conversation in which Ms Downie mentioned that she has other plans after 2020. Or before if a suitable opportunity arises.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:45am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Her effectiveness is not the issue and it shows what a twat Soyman is that he is so disingenuous.
  
  The issue at hand is her judgment and mental health. She showed incredibly bad judgment to send a TXT (to anyone – let alone a colleague) suggesting they deserve to “die”. It’s also demonstrates that Dowie cannot differentiate between right and wrong.
  
  Coincidentally, these two flaws characterise JLR too.
  
  Having gotten himself in trouble with JLR”s poor judgment and amorality, Soyman is going to repeat the mistake by backing the similarly flawed Dowie.
  
  He truly is National’s Jacinda.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:21am
  - Liberty
    
    Such selected morality.
    The failure of Winston to return the $150,000. Is more of a concern.
    Than a bit of hanky panky between two consenting adults.
    
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    January 28, 2019 11:11am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Ooh look a squirrel
      
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      January 28, 2019 2:25pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Do you have a spelling disability DP? Bridges first name is spelled Simon.
    
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    January 28, 2019 12:40pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Hmm 14 downtickers who think it’s fine for an MP to wish death upon a colleague…..
    
    Well they do say one in five of the population suffers from mental illness!
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:28pm
- KH
  
  If I were in Invercargill I would vote for Sarah Dowie. She is one of the good MPs.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:36am
DigNap15

National really should dump JLR I don’t want to hear or see him again.
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January 28, 2019 8:04am
- peterwn
  
  He was dumped from Caucus and resigned from the Party and Simon has decided to ignore him. He could be dumped under Winston’s Waka Hopper law, but Simon is reluctant to do this given National’s opposition to the Waka Hopper legislation. The only ‘new development’ is Jami’s claim that the Police are investigating two aspects, and there seems to be little substance to either complaint. Anyway Jami has been on ‘sick leave’ until the other day so it could have been bad form to have moved on him earlier or even do something this week. Simon is unlikely to want to do anything drastic until the annual round of National’s electroate meetings have happened.
  If Simon is inclined to invoke the Waka Hopper law and his caucus agrees, it will just happen out of the blue.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:21am
  - Positan
    
    National may have opposed the Waka jumping legislation – but why on earth should that constrain them from using it?
    
    The need for Bridges to use it is far, far more legitimate than anything Peters would ever have imagined in wanting to exercise complete control over members of his flaky team. JLR is a most genuine example of the Act’s provisions for “dumping an MP” – and if Bridges can’t see that, he shouldn’t be in parliament. Let alone pretending to lead its MAJOR party.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:56am
    - peterwn
      
      If Simon did invoke the Waka Hopper legislation, then it is likely to remain on the books for ever. The Donna Huata case and Jami’s situation does seem to indicate a more general MP recall law is needed Rather than the traditional grounds of insanity or convicted of a crime with maximum sentence of two plus years jail.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:28am
peterwn

One of Whaleoil’s rules is ‘never hug a corpse’. Why then is Whaleoil continuing to embrace Jami? Part of a compaign to topple Simon Bridges?
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January 28, 2019 8:05am
- G152
  
  Strokes can have the debilitating effect of leaving the victim with limited intellectual function?
  Just a thought
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:14am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s not Slater doing the hugging.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:22am
    - pdm
      
      I was surprised by the tenor of Christies post this morning. He/She normally writes very good stuff but is off the mark with this one I think.
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:54am
      - Tarquin North
        
        That blog has been off the mark for a long time.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:00am
  - mark15
    
    Cheap shot
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:23am
  - Dave Mann
    
    That was uncalled for, G152.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:27am
    - holysheet
      
      Why?
      Slater hasn’t been the most intelligent blogger. Going on his constant support for the drunken dwarf, it’s obvious he was off the planet.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:46am
    - G152
      
      Just an inconvenient medical fact for you Dave Mann
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:59am
- howzit
  
  They have been neck deep in this for some time. They have sided with the Twat from the beginning and are suffering from national derangement syndrome,
  
  Yes Dowie sent a text she regrets but the poor me antics of the biggest sleaze is just narcissism in its true form on display.
  
  JLR is the epitome of the type of lefty career politician that we loath on the left. Never had a real job, thinks he is smarter than everyone else and is a do as I say not as I do type guy.
  
  Everything he is saying is a con job and a very poorly put together one.
  
  Makes me want to vomit when I see him trying to cry saying that he was going to end it all and then I saw my daughters face. Give me a break.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:27am
  - MCos
    
    “JLR is the epitome of the type of lefty career politician that we loath on the left. Never had a real job, thinks he is smarter than everyone else and is a do as I say not as I do type guy.”
    
    Except he’s on the right.
    The point being people can be career politicians or come to politics after a career in business or whatever, such as Colin Craig, doesn’t make an awful lot of difference if their character is flawed.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:00am
    - Happychappy
      
      He can’t be that smart if the rumour is correct that blubber boy is getting the direction’s from Winston First.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:26am
    - howzit
      
      My point is that given his career politician status and poor me antics he resembles a lefty closer than someone on the right and I’m not sure National is a right wing party anyway. Who would you say is more right wing, current national party or Lange’s Labour Party? Speaking of Lange, didn’t he have an affair…
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:04am
      - Paulus
        
        Lange had more than one affair.
        Big fat slob – I cannot see why except power.
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:56am
- Chris R
  
  I went to WO earlier today. I cannot detect that WO is “continuing to embrace” Jamie-Lee. Quite the opposite; he is insisting that Simon execute the waka-hopping law and get rid of him. I agree with this. Then the question arises whether Simon ought to discipline Ms Dowie given the antipathy being expressed towards her in Invercargill? I feel for Simon as this is a tough call but after all, Invercargill is a safe National seat and it requires a member who is steady, reliable and able to perform in the long haul. The sooner a decision is made the better as National can then start what it is intended to do…BBQing the ridiculous CoL!
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:46am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I agree Chris; Christie is calling for Bridges to invoke the waka-jumping legislation, and as a card-carrying member of the National Party, I concur. Surely it’s better for Bridges to take a stand, and risk some short-term criticism for hypocrisy, than to leave Ross there to attack National from the fringes.
    
    I doubt there would be many party members who would not forgive Bridges for taking advantage of a law which National rightly opposed.
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:20pm
- MrTips
  
  Like KS said, its not WO doing it.
  Its Simon Lusk, enabled by Winston and Barely Sober. Everyone knows this, its not rocket science.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:10am
  - brett68
    
    I understand why Peters wants to sink National but
    what’s in it for Lusk?
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:24am
    - brett68
      
      Found the answer
      
      https://yournz.org/2018/11/08/lusk-and-slater-further-connected-to-nz-first/
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:31am
kowtow

The German elites really are nuts. Turning Holocaust Day into a pro Muslim immigration day and yet in the same article telling those same anti semetic immigrants they must not be anti semetic.

As if the Syrians and Afghans give a shit for her opinions , anyway their Jew hatred comes from the literal word of God , the Koran , so what chance has a DW editor when lecturing the hordes.

“It has taken a long time for Germany to finally acknowledge that it is a nation of immigration. Many still refuse to recognize that it is not only a cultural enrichment if people from all over the world want to live and work in Germany. Considering demographic developments, the citizens of Europe’s largest economic power will not be able to maintain their standard of living without the labor and skills of people from other countries.”

https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-germanys-historical-obligation-continues/a-47248363
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January 28, 2019 8:05am
- Inandout
  
  German Jews are not all blind to what is going on.
  
  https://www.dw.com/en/how-should-germany-deal-with-islamic-anti-semitism/a-43511521
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:16am
- Jules99
  
  It’s very interesting to see the conflicts on the left. Here we see immigration = maintain current economic system, while Greens want to drag us all back to the dark ages to save the planet. And yet Greens favour immigration.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:22am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Greens = fuddled thinking and logic with a sprinkling of hypocrisy
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:37am
- EAD_THREE
  
  Holocaust Day
  
  I guess they’re not talking about the Holodomar Holocaust (this clip on American TV by a Ukranian on a current affairs programmer is truly memorable)
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/Chili_Cannon/status/1089563414773387264
  
  But seriously, as the Allies saved millions upon millions of Jews and secured them their national homeland, I think Holocaust Memorial Day be renamed Jewish Rescue Memorial Day.
  
  This makes more sense and more properly reflects the debt of gratitude we’re owed for paying the ultimate sacrifice for the Jewish people.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:44am
slightlyrighty

A Union is defined as “a workers’ organization which represents its members and which aims to improve things such as their working conditions and pay”

Given that 50% of teachers are looking to leave the profession after 5 years, you have to wonder just how effective the union actually is.
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January 28, 2019 8:05am
- sooty
  
  But I here the union is paid well!
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:19am
- RW Capitalist
  
  PPTA claiming there are 100’s of teachers short.
  Last year, there were 1000’s I seem to remember, but no extras have been trained/employed.
  How does this match to what I heard on the radio yesterday, that school principles haven’t requested anything like that number, from the Ministry.
  Them and Hipkins do have a history of lying.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:54am
  - MH
    
    It’s men teachers they are short of
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:40am
- Southern Raider
  
  Unions have the ultimate conflict and although they won’t agree the industries they represent are classical demonstrations of economics in action
  
  Unions strive to keep demand high by ensuring that labour is short through controlling who can be qualified and putting up huge barriers for immigrants. This is to ensure wages are kept high for their members.
  
  Their members then complain about massive over work driven by this high demand and low supply.
  
  But it can’t ever be resolved as Unions and members want to maintain their control on wages while not having to do any work.
  
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  January 28, 2019 12:02pm
sooty

Wont be long before the JacinDUH the Hood (appropiate name that with all the drug and sleaze hanging around) will be back in the country and have to deal with Slease Gallopaway, Phail Twitford. My word the cabinet reshuffle is going to be interesting. What’s she going to do bring in some more gunts and nz dead, to make up the numbers. That puddle ain’t getting any deeper!
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January 28, 2019 8:15am
Monique Watson

Isn’t that Simon Bridges anice guy. He needs to rein in Nicola Willis though.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=12196326

Suggests chopping the six week Summer Break.
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January 28, 2019 8:15am
- KevOB
  
  Nicola is showing her strength: a capable, independent thinking woman of high potential.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:41am
- Viking2
  
  Well for many it would be a blessing including many Grandparents who often bear the task.
  
  Wait till your turn comes.
  
  With different crops requiring harvesting at different times I have long though schools in an area should be able to change their times to help with a harvest. Makes good sense to me and perhaps we wouldn’t need so many immigrants. Plenty of 5th and sixth formers who could benefit from a few weeks work experience and some pay.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:51am
  - lifesgood
    
    Totally agree about grandparents bearing the burden. In our day grandparents were occasional baby sitters not almost full time carers come the holidays. It’s exhausting! Young people have and want it all and women especially think their career is terribly important. In reality it isn’t. You leave a job, you are soon replaced and forgotten.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:23am
    - dog_eat_dog
      
      Awesome guess young people don’t have to pay the enormous mortgages they’ve been stuck with either. Oh wait.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:33am
      - holysheet
        
        You mean mortgages are something new?
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:50am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think our School Holiday system did derive from having to fit in around hay-making.
    
    Bringing in the sheaves
    In the 19th century, children were often kept at home to help with chores such as harvesting crops. Some schools adjusted their holidays, so that low attendance during busy farming periods would not mean a funding cut. In the 1880s and 1890s, schools in the Canterbury district of Waikākahi took their summer holidays either in January or in February, depending on whether the harvest was early or late.
    https://teara.govt.nz/en/country-schooling/page-1
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:29am
    - waikatogirl
      
      So teachers should be thanking the farming industry for their long summer break. ?
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:53am
  - peterwn
    
    Such is the importance of the UK harvest that some Kent schools were allowed to adjust holidays to fit in with hops harvesting and a judge ordered a young farm worker to be birched rather than imprisoned so he was available at harvest time.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:42am
- dog_eat_dog
  
  Heaven forbid teachers work as much as other people.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:32am
cmm

It seems that gays will now have to pay for flying lessons: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/110202573/vast-isis-caliphate-crumbles

Funny how the MSM were ripping into Trump for saying the fight with Isis is over, yet now here they are saying Isis is over.
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January 28, 2019 8:17am
- Scott
  
  For the msm everything is about Trump and a chance to pull him down.
  Unfortunately he gets no credit for his stellar accomplishments including a booming US economy and the defeat of Isis which according to president Obama was going to be a problem for generations.
  Trump changed the rules of engagement and demanded his generals win the fight. In response more fighters were killed, the Isis forces were bombed relentlessly and territory was taken back.
  
  The US forces under president Trump have done the world a favour defeating the Isis savages.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:40am
  - Jules99
    
    Remember when we were fearful of North Korea setting off a nuclear bomb? Thanks Trump.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:08am
  - KH
    
    Credit is due also to the Syrian government for ridding the place of ISIS. Strangely the Americans impeded that as much as possible. What was that about. ?
    
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    January 28, 2019 11:51am
oldpark

Was wondering what part of summer we dont like. Maybe our stupid media should keep out of it with their constant bleating of hot summer temperatures.
Would they or a lot of people prefer NZ to have winter weather all around for 12 months.
Lets all enjoy NZs fine summer . After all it will soon be gone. As Mike Yardley said on the radio this morning.NZ are not getting the type of temperatures in the 40s like in Australia.
Once more in NZ very soon normal cool temperatures will be with us.
Maybe our fake news media should do something useful for a change. Like supporting the worldwide support for the ousting of the Venezuela Dictator Maduro. Yes the same Dictator that Peters selected NZs PM Ardern sang his praises for not so long ago.Is it a coincidence that the sound of silence is emanating from NZ,hope not.
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January 28, 2019 8:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Depending where I’m searching, I’m seeing predictions between 28C-34C for Gisborne today.
  
  I’ve been watering my plants since 6:30am…so I ‘m preparing for a warm day… doesn’t look like it will get to 38.1C tho’…. temperature last reached here 40 years ago in January.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:32am
  - Biscuit
    
    There are hours in a morning that begin with a ‘6’, Maggy?
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Only in Summer…
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:31am
  - G152
    
    Interesting as to how its the east coast that gets the Aussie heatwave rather than the west coast which faces Australia
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:18am
    - MarkF
      
      It’s called the “Foehn Effect”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:50am
- Jade Warrior
  
  It’s still the silly season so stories about the weather are always a useful standby for reporters with too much time on their hands. Then there’s the global warming angle too of course – it’s never specifically mentioned in stories about heatwaves but the implication is always there.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:36am
  - Tarquin North
    
    We call it weather porn up this way.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:07am
- backster
  
  I was speaking to a beekeeper yesterday. She said her bees were already stacking the hives with propilis a sure sign of an early winter.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:34am
JibberJabber

What do we hate?
Australia Day!
Why? WE DON`T KNOW!
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=V6wt_1548573855

Utter, utter Cretins.
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January 28, 2019 8:22am
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha We already knew Lefties are ignorant morons.
  The chilling part of that video is the Police trying to stop him asking his questions…
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:14am
- Rich Prick
  
  Self loathing lefties brimming with unsolicited white guilt. They are pathetic.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:40am
waikatogirl

Cadbury has downgraded their marshmallow eggs for Easter. The large eggs came in a packet of 5 and wrapped in pretty tinfoil. The tinfoil has been done away with and the two marshmallow sides of the “egg” stuck together with the yolk in the middle. They are no longer including the yolk or bothering to stick the 2 slabs together but selling the 1/2 slabs as they come off the production line.

Cadbury’s Easter promotion should be: “Cadbury, we can’t be bothered!” ?
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January 28, 2019 8:24am
- Biscuit
  
  Is it just me or do some of you, too, find the ‘pretty tinfoil’ to be a right pain in the butt?
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:27am
  - pdm
    
    You are not supposed to eat the tinfoil Biscuit.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:40am
    - Pascal
      
      But it makes your poop sparkle!
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:48am
    - lifesgood
      
      …or stick it in your butt.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:26am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I find the tinfoil metallic to the taste so am pleased it may be gone . . .
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:42am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Nah, the tinfoil is the tastiest bit in that Cadbury rubbish!
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:53am
  - waikatogirl
    
    “Pretty tinfoil” or so remembered by the little girl I once was. Those marshmellow eggs were always my favourite (as a child) as long as they were eaten straight from the fridge. ?
    
    Cadbury chocolate isn’t worth eating these days. Sickly sweet crap.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:05am
    - Sacha
      
      When I was quite little – well not a teenager yet – I and my friends used to carefully collect the patterned tinfoil off chocolates, and press it flat and smooth.
      Then we would draw/trace outlines of pictures with Indian Ink on to glass, and press the different tinfoils to fill in the drawing. Backed with a sheet of cardboard, and framed with blackened sticking plaster, we had a picture!
      
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      January 28, 2019 3:54pm
  - Nermal
    
    How else can I make a hat?
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:37am
    - MH
      
      Without the tinfoil hat I wouldn’t have received instructions from my minders about that asteroid coming this way.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:48am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        That asteroid is not due for 12 years. AOC
        
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        January 28, 2019 2:41pm
- Jade Warrior
  
  If I were Whittakers, I would right now be working on my own set of marshmallow eggs (whole) and releasing them in the next few weeks to take advantage of Cadbury’s latest slip up!
  
  What is it with Cadbury – or more likely, their master Mondelez? Is profit all that matters? Are they not studying Whittakers recent success and realising that consumers also appreciate quality and are prepared to pay a little more for it? Right now, Cadbury seem to be almost begging to lose their customers in Australasia.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:32am
  - sooty
    
    No Cadbury’s for me!
    They can melt, for all I care!
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:35am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Whittakers and Cadbury have both capitulated to the Islamic blackmail of Halal certification, that`s why their products now taste like shit.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:44am
    - CHFR1
      
      Yes Lindt all the way for me, chocolate tastes better and they refuse halal certification.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:00am
  - Viking2
    
    they don’t give a shit.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:54am
  - MH
    
    yes, Free marshmallows now
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:50am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Whittakers, I may be going against the grain here but the day when Whittakers learns that chocolate should contain some actual genuine chocolate would be a good start. Most plastic tasting chocolate substitute available.
    
    Not that enamoured of Cadbury, and just IMHO it was a great shame when Nestle effectively exited the NZ chocolate market (except for those abominations Milky Bar and Kit-kat). Only imported Belgium stuff really makes the grade these days.
    
    /rant
    
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    January 28, 2019 12:19pm
    - Debbie
      
      And Swiss
      
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      January 28, 2019 2:23pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Are their Easter Eggs Halal?
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:33am
- Inandout
  
  OMG, Cadbury’s have plastic trays for their eggs. Where and which supermarket can we start our protest from?
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:41am
  - stigie
    
    Yes, and i love taking the piss about the multiple use plastic bags../
    The fucking hypocrites !~
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:36am
- Gravelroad
  
  Many years ago I had a holiday job in a Griffins factory which made the marshmallow Easter eggs.
  As a 17 year old, it provided my first real insight into workplace pecking orders.
  After serving my time on the heater conveyer belt sticking two sides of the eggs together, I was promoted to wrapping them in the pretty tinfoil.
  This is where my lack of experience got me into trouble.
  I was told by the foreman to pick a pattern and got a pile of tinfoil off the shelf. This is when members of the permanent staff told me that the paper I had selected “belonged” to someone else and they would give me the one befitting to my lowly station in the chocolate department.
  Most of these workers had been wrapping with their own personal tinfoil for years and no kid on a holiday job was going to change that!
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:52am
  - Longknives
    
    Did you break into regular song and dance routines like the Oompa Loompas did?
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:11am
    - Gravelroad
      
      No, but we ate a lot of “free” chocolate Easter eggs, pineapple lumps and eskimos.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:41am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I had my first job at Griffins Bickie Factory Wanganui – summer hols between ending High School and starting Uni.
    I never got to work in the upstairs chocolate room though… you had to be fast on the line to work there.
    Each year Griffins paid for a 3-day Holiday for its staff to go to Rotorua (for some – their only holiday out of Wanganui ever).. My fellow school mate and I were included in the invite, even though we had only been working at the factory for a few weeks.
    When we left the ladies on the packing line promised to send us bickies so we didn’t starve at Uni…but we were content to never see another Griffin’s bickie again for a very long time.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:14am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, my mother had a story of how she worked in the Nestle chocolate factory in Parnell one year while she was at University, and it was years before she could face eating chocolate again. It was “all you can eat”; the first day was eating quite a lot, the next eat a little, the next week try it once more, and after that none at all.
      
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      January 28, 2019 12:23pm
      - Sacha
        
        Same at Cadbury in Dunedin. Like picking strawberries –
        
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        January 28, 2019 3:57pm
  - MH
    
    foiled at last.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:51am
- Paulus
  
  Easter eggs have been on sale for over a week at our New World.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:59am
  - GazzaW
    
    Hot cross buns at Countdown last week as well.
    
    Only 329 shopping days until Christmas so the decorations can’t be too far away.
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:55pm
mandk

Another act of love from the religion of peace:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47018747

China and Burma are right in taking action to stop their respective countries from being poisoned by Islam.
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January 28, 2019 8:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The attack comes days after a majority-Muslim area in the region voted for greater autonomy in a referendum.
  
  Seems some folks in the area aren’t too happy with their Catholic countrymen and women.
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2019/jan/27/philippines-bombs-at-cathedral-during-mass-kill-20-people-video
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:43am
Jules99

Stuff is talking about a heatwave this summer, but last night I put a blankie on my bed.
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January 28, 2019 8:25am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Stuff have been preaching the downfall of President Trump since November 2016, and yet . . . .
  
  I would not put too much faith in the preaching from St Stuff
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:46am
- oldgolfer
  
  It’s breaking news on Stuffed, ffs.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:26am
JibberJabber

Cycleways.
A success story.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=jEls_1548591927
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January 28, 2019 8:28am
- auckwood
  
  haha just saw that last night on fakebook, was about to try find it again to share on here!
  
  Amazing world we live in hahha
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:32am
  - sooty
    
    Lycra. World famous in their own mind!
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:38am
- Rich Prick
  
  Those words take on a special charm when offered in an Australian accent.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:31am
- KH
  
  Cyclists video is funny, but the site it is on is vile.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:57am
holysheet

What’s Forrest Gump’s password?
1forrest1
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January 28, 2019 8:28am
Biscuit

Trev’s not ALL bad you know:

Hutt News@huttnews:
Cricket legend Ewen Chatfield has finally retired. Well done Ewen.

Trevor Mallard@SpeakerTrevor:
Chatfield has made a superb contribution all my adult life. And a terrific guy.
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January 28, 2019 8:31am
- CJames
  
  I agree Biscuit. Trevor has done some reprehensible things, but that text shows his good side. Truth be known, he probably isn’t that much different from the rest of us.
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:48am
  - RalphT
    
    “Truth be known, he probably isn’t that much different from the rest of us.”
    
    No. Most of us are far too sensible to be seen in lycra, riding a bike.
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:55am
    - MCos
      
      I suppose that depends what shape you’re in first and foremost.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:06am
    - CJames
      
      Hold up there Ralph – I also ride bikes. I don’t know whether to up or down tick you.
      I do know that at the prizegiving for the last Taupo Round the Lake, Trevor was standing in the crowd just along from us. He was definitely just one of the people there that day. In anywhere else but NZ, he would have been accompanied by bodyguards or flunkies, or got a seat with the VIPs. And he left the event on his bike, not a CR limo.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:02am
      - sooty
        
        You can bet the crown limo was not far away!
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:00am
      - Biscuit
        
        Agreed, CJames.
        
        At least three times, I’ve watched a group of lycra-clad cyclists bike past me and have realised that one of them was Trevor.
        
        Not since he’s been Speaker, mind, but even so I silently purred that we live in a country where 99.999% of our Parliamentarians can freely stroll (or bike) about the place with no need to have heavies accompany their every step.
        
        Similarly, I have stopped to chat our local MP in midtown and admire his then-brand-new baby.
        
        We might (and do) have political differences but certainly nothing that can’t prevent us from civil to one another!
        
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        January 28, 2019 12:25pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I hear they’re mourning the death of Trevor Mallard on Nuie; the island’s solitary duck, blown in on a storm a while back has succumbed to island living.
    
    RIP Trevor 😀
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:28am
    - waikatogirl
      
      The duck named “Trevor” after the Speaker was eaten by a local dog. Trevor Mallard has sent his condolences to the people of Niue. ?
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:01am
- Longknives
  
  I’m amazed Chats only just retired from Club Cricket!
  What a freaking legend…
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:07am
auckwood

Whilst I was brought up with morals such as a man should never hit a woman, I’m also a big supporter of gender equality. The video in the herald item below highlights/reinforces my opinion on both issues:

1: The physical differences in size & power between males & females and why allowing MtF transsexuals to compete against women in sporting events is ridiculous…

2: Women, if you have no problems in getting in someones face and/or throwing punches at another person (especially a member of the opposite sex who is twice your size), then you have to accept that getting knocked the fuck out is a potential repercussion/outcome to your actions.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12197117
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January 28, 2019 8:53am
BeaB

Trump, May, Putin, Macron, Trudeau, Modi – no shows at Davos. Great that Jacinda was there then to save the world and get away from boring domesticity.
What ambition and insatiable need for celebrity!
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January 28, 2019 8:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who can tell us what Davos was all about this year?
  
  Who can tell us one thing that Davos has ever achieved that benefits “the common man/woman”?
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:01am
  - kevn
    
    @Maggy… Someone had to feed them and clean up afterwards. There were lots of them.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:25am
  - fernglas
    
    Davos is a vanity fest for self indulgent rich dicks. Ardern was the entertainment, not a participant
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:26am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Apparently she tweeted ‘catching up with all my mates at Daves!’
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:44am
      - holysheet
        
        Was Dave out the back replacing the lawnmowers?
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:56am
      - KevOB
        
        Was she on on commission?
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:10am
    - Paulus
      
      Heard that over 2,200 planes landed at Davos this year.
      
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      January 28, 2019 2:03pm
    - Pascal
      
      I only follow international news outlets. Can’t recall a single headline mentioning Ardern. If it wasn’t for our media’s biased fanaticism, she’d disappear back into the oblivion that spawned her.
      
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      January 28, 2019 2:50pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Airpoints. Can’t think of anything else.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:28am
    - backster
      
      1500 private jets, wasn’t one of them hers?
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:44am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Jacinda and Robbo were able to have to consult with a wide range of global socialist experts about their upcoming revolutionary wellness budget.
    We will all be much weller as a result.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:46am
    - Philview
      
      I looked up “wellness budget” and found Robbo’s interpretation that previous Budgets have focused on measuring how much things cost whereas Robbo’s budget will be about “outcomes” on matters such as climate change, income equality, poverty reduction. We can assume this delivers either bullshit or full on marxism.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:13am
      - greybeard
        
        Looks as though Robbo is not being straight with us.
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:10am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Is wellness measured by pixie dust or unicorn farts? I understand it makes quite a difference.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:16am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Robbo’s “wellness” budget will be measured in how much tax he can extract from those on the dwindling list of who still pay tax in this country. ?
        
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        January 28, 2019 1:25pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Davos is right up there with Monaco and Cannes as one of the places for the ‘rich and famous’ to be ‘seen’. It’s peak season for skiing and more importantly apres-skiing and Davos is the place to be. That undoubtedly is the main reason why Davos is the conference venue – an excuse for troughing on a major scale. There’s a serious need to OIA the NZ delegates’ and officials’ expenses just as was done with Chris Carter.
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:35pm
- Philview
  
  What was the number of private jets at Davos, 1500 I think? Hypocrisy of the highest order!!
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:38am
  - KevOB
    
    Rubbing shoulders doesn’t transfer commonsense.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:11am
  - GazzaW
    
    Was Air Force One there or did Jacinda have to slum it in an Emirates First Class suite as far as Zurich?
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:47pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Was to be 1501, but Nancy and Air Force 1 got grounded
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:50pm
Surely Knott

James Shaw looking for cross party support on his climate change bill so that it will outlast his government. But it’s a bit rich, because when forming a government James wouldn’t even enter the room to talk environmental negotiations with National and went strictly on party lines and party colours giving Winston almost all the negotiating power.. But now he wants National to put party politics aside and come to the table for the good of the environment. James failure to negotiate gave Winston, who is holding up talks, far and away the strongest hand . https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110159557/nz-first-slows-climate-change-law
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January 28, 2019 9:00am
- backster
  
  Parliament would be far better employed preparing the Nation for the impending little ice age already being evidenced by widespread record cold in Europe, Canada, the US and other countries and about to get worse in the USA this week.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:01am
Longknives

The Courts were very lenient on Evie Amati the Sydney Transgender who sunk an axe into this guy’s head-

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12196662

Shockingly he/she will be out on parole in a couple of years!
*Apparently it’s hormonal medication and issues with ‘Transphobia’ were contributing factors blah blah
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January 28, 2019 9:05am
- auckwood
  
  Because its all about the feelz and wellbeing….
  
  Reading his/her back story, sounds like a nasty piece of work in general. Our CoL would probably welcome him/her here with open arms unfortunately.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:17am
- Inandout
  
  Transgenders are basically quite mad.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:22am
  - auckwood
    
    Well it used to be defined as a mental disorder until feelz, virtue signalling, political correctness etc changed it.
    
    Ben Shapiro sums it perfectly with an anecdote about his grandfather who also suffered from a mental illness – “My grandfather was deeply mentally ill. He spent nearly a year in a psychiatric institution after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder; he heard the radio talking to him. He became suicidal. He spent years battling the condition, until he was prescribed lithium. For the next several decades, the medication brought his mental illness under control.
    
    Nothing would have been crueler to my grandfather than had society told him that his delusions were correct — that the radio was, in fact, talking to him; that the curtains were indeed threatening him; that he was normal, and that it was the stereotypes of the world inducing his paranoia.”
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:44am
  - pentwig
    
    stoopidthing – milkmaid
    help us out here, your opinions?
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:02am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘I will kill people – it will be your fault’: Transgender woman flies into a fit of rage after a failed Tinder date and storms into a 7-Eleven with an axe trying to ‘cut a man’s head in half’
    
    Oz , Only got 9 years for an axe attck on 2 complete strangers .
    
    Not sure who’s madder the judge or the cock in a frock high on a loop de loop cocktail .
    
    ‘During Amati’s trial, a court heard she was on MDA, antidepressants, transgender hormones, cannabis and vodka and was filled with rage after a failed Tinder date shortly before the brutal attack.’
    
    Why does the media insist on calling these men , she ?
    
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6634773/Transgender-axe-attacker-flew-drug-fuelled-fit-rage-failed-Tinder-date.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:42pm
- Viking2
  
  wonder what happened to the Mongrel Mob boss in Rotorua that sunk and axe into someones head. apparently he is residing in the pare Hilton for sometime.
  
  Definitely didn’t look transgender anytime I have seen him over the fence.
  
  god there is some bullshit spouted by these liberals.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:28am
- backster
  
  The surgeon should be charged as party to the offence.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:04am
Komata

SK

But, but, James ‘Feelz’ that that is the right thing for the Nats to do, ‘cos otherwise they’re nasty spoil sports who are wuwining his 15 (micro) minutes of fame.

And if they don’t, both his mummies AND gaia will be unhappy…

Naughty National!
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January 28, 2019 9:08am
Salacious Crumb

The same Greens lead by James Shaw who voted against the Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary because it was Nationals bill and Peters fincanciers from the fishing industry yanked the chain?
How about James Shaw gets told to go self fornicate.
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January 28, 2019 9:08am
waikatogirl

Vernon Tarver is keen to lead a new blue/green environmental party who do not have the red centre to it.
Watch this space.
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January 28, 2019 9:19am
- Inandout
  
  Waikato, they used to be like that until out of work communists decided that the fall of Soviet Europe needed a new ’cause’ to latch on to. That is when the Greens went red. When I see little old ladies dutifully packing their hessian supermarket bags, as if under a Green spell, I despair.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:24am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Thanks for mansplaining Inandout. I hadn’t worked that out for myself. // ?
    
    I resent having to drag my bags into the supermarket. I limit my purchases, and hang the opposition company’s bags from my trolley. Not all little old ladies are complacent.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:26am
    - Inandout
      
      waikato, I am merely passing on what an eminent surgeon once told me. I will never forget his prognosis on transgenders.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:29am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Inandout,
        I think you mean that transgender comment for someone above. I hadn’t mentioned transgenders.
        
        Have a good day.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:34am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        That’s true Inandout, WG was onto the things that affect our lives everyday, being the demise of the lowly plastico, rather than an individuals deranged mental condition and public wanking issues
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:51am
    - BeaB
      
      Absolutely agree. I take my New World bags to Countdown and vice versa. I deeply resent having to provide my own bags and then to pay for bags to line my rubbish bin etc.
      Win win for the supermarkets. Triumph for the Greens on their road to muesli-eating cave dwellers.
      Total burden on the poor old shopper.
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:48am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Here’s a question for you then.
        
        Has National said anything about this anti plastic bag bullshit? Can we look forward to coming to our senses when/if there is a National government?
        
        I’m not taking a dig here…. just asking a genuine question. I’ve searched and I can’t find any statement from National about the grocery industry leaving it’s senses and shoppers following like sheep.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:56am
      - DigNap15
        
        The COL have done such a good brainwashing job on everyone that everyone thinks the plastic bag ban is good!
        When I take in some plastic bins for my groceries the checkout girls look in wonder. Then I tell them I like plastic bags, and they talk back to me as if I am some sort of conservative reactionary luddite.
        
        So I think the best thing National could do is remove any bans on plastic bags and make them voluntary or optional. And let the market decide.
        
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        January 28, 2019 10:44am
    - Inandout
      
      Sorry wrong subject waikato. But yes the supermarkets are losing much of our ‘casual spending’ too. We just buy strictly as per shopping list now.
      
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      January 28, 2019 2:25pm
Notsofast

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Jim Lovering from Seattle was instrumental in resolving the Amanda Knox fiasco, and is the most lucid crime commentator I ever encountered. After the 2015 Lundy trial he wrote

‘It’s conceivable he could have driven to his house between one and five in the morning and committed the murders. Under the circumstances, it’s deeply unlikely. It’s also unlikely he would have been able to pull it off such that there was no incriminating evidence on his person or in his car. And he really had no motive.

I’m confident of Lundy’s innocence, but not so “deeply invested” I would reject credible evidence.

But such evidence does not exist, which accounts for my interest in this case. I am “deeply invested” in rejecting any criminal conviction that is unsupported by evidence. My view is that innocence need not be proved, but guilt must be proved. The so-called evidence in this case does not begin to prove guilt. It does not even cast a pall of suspicion. It is pure junk, contrived to prop up an accusation based on conjecture.”

He is now working on the full exposure of this case in the international spotlight, armed with the complete crime dossier, and the New Zealand judiciary are to be completely shredded. No caution required as we see in the gutless local media non entities.
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January 28, 2019 9:22am
- Longknives
  
  And Elvis is still alive and pumping Gas for a living in Waimate…
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:28am
  - Notsofast
    
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    Did you read what Jim wrote? People ignore his forecasts at their peril. Our supreme court takes center stage, there is no more room for error.
    
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    January 28, 2019 9:30am
    - Longknives
      
      And Roy Orbison works the till…
      
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      January 28, 2019 9:33am
      - RalphT
        
        Oh, don’ t be silly Longknives, Roy Orbison is well and truly dead. And Elvis isn’t in Waimate; everyone knows it’s Taihape where he works.
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:41am
      - GazzaW
        
        C’mon Ralph. I saw Roy pumping gas in the BP service station in Eketahuna this morning.
        
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        January 28, 2019 1:43pm
    - JibberJabber
      
      Got the spare room for Lundy made up for when he gets released into your care?
      Pro tip… hide the tomahawks and lock the garden shed.
      And …fuck all the crim hugging morons you are enamored with.
      
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      January 28, 2019 10:03am
      - Notsofast
        
        Look at the supreme court members.
        Helen Winkelmann and Susan Glazebrooke have declared him guilty beyond doubt. Willie Young and Mark O’Regan admitted the mRNA evidence now ruled inadmissible.
        Ellie France wrote a withering dissent against the evidence Young and O’Regan helped into the court.
        
        So the new chief justice is sure of his guilt.
        
        I don’t see he has much chance, but maybe the court will get there before Jim Lovering blasts them to oblivion. Last chance saloon for our lot.
        
        For the record, I totally refute the idea Helen Winkelmann is sure of his guilt, she knows the case is bullshit as Jim points out. Jim wrote last may while they were deliberating
        
        “My guess is this: They realize the case is pure bullshit but they are going to quash his appeal anyway, and they are trying to figure out how to word their ruling and when to announce it.
        
        Maybe then people will realize that debunking the evidence is not enough. Someone has to solve the crime.”
        
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        January 28, 2019 11:02am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    And Elvis is still alive and pumping Gas for a living in Waimate…
    
    Now you’re just being silly.
    
    No one lives in Waimate.
    
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    January 28, 2019 11:58am
- Dave Mann
  
  Fuck off Notsofast. This is a GENERAL debate, not a forum for you to continually and repeatedly masturbate about your mental illness. Get your own blog and see if anybody cares. Idiot.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:01am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    continually and repeatedly masturbate about your mental illness
    
    seems like a pretty all-encompassing description of the GD to me.
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:33am
    - JibberJabber
      
      And here you are…
      
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      January 28, 2019 11:39am
      - GazzaW
        
        ……..right hand at the ready.
        
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        January 28, 2019 2:21pm
    - pentwig
      
      milkmaid
      it certainly is a good description of your behaviour on GD
      
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      January 28, 2019 11:50am
Longknives

Djokovic was freaking phenomenal last night- Blew an in-form Nadal off the Court..

I asked a friend in the Media why this final-between two absolute legends of the game, didn’t seem to get much coverage as the women’s event? (Esp when Serena Williams was still in the Tournament)
‘We are definitely deliberately trying to focus on Women and Minorities’ was his answer..
For fuck’s sake!
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January 28, 2019 9:24am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Just soooooo wrong.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:54am
Philview

The temperature is going to hit 30 degrees this week around the country. The media are screaming “we are doomed”. I recall the 1990s in particular and very hot summers and droughts and farmers in trouble.
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January 28, 2019 9:28am
- Jules99
  
  Just talking to my dad who is 80 in Feb – he was reminiscing about the weeks of hot days when they spent their summer hols at the local pool when he was a lad.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:33am
Viking2

Simon backing Dowie and good on him.
Need someone with some steel for a spine.

Many of us will respect that.

Not apparently ome of her previous friends in Invercargil.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/simon-bridges-backs-sarah-dowie-despite-police-investigation-into-abusive-message-sent-to-jami-lee-ross.html?fbclid=IwAR3ETcutM_oVeSQlPfH5d6gai0pw5Noy97jBvhEy1Dx5bLO_Ks91MZUGCus
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January 28, 2019 9:34am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Well said Viking. Whilst it takes two to tango, I suspect that if infidelity was the bar by which suitability for serving as an MP was judged, there would be plenty of vacant seats in the House.
  
  I very much doubt that Dowie will be prosecuted, especially given that Ross himself did not make the complaint to Police. It will be up to party members in the Invercargill electorate to make a decision on Ms Dowie’s future, and I am sure there will be plenty of frank discussions, but ultimately, I believe they will be fair minded.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:01am
rangitoto

Poor British tourists return from holiday from hell..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636919/Traveller-family-caused-havoc-New-Zealand-lands-UK-moaning-holiday-hell.html
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January 28, 2019 9:53am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Oh dear, never mind . . . . fucking pikies.
  
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  January 28, 2019 9:55am
  - The Heat
    
    I don’t know their financial background, but from some of the comments in the Daily Mail it sounds like some workers would love a trip to NZ, but cannot afford it, whilst some welfare beneficiaries can.
    
    How long can the centre hold? That is completely and utterly backward.
    
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    January 28, 2019 7:01pm
- holysheet
  
  Given we know they are ferals, do you think the Brits wouldn’t also know that?
  Who over there would take any notice of them complaining.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:05am
- JibberJabber
  
  Too thick to understand, if they acted like civilised human beings, they would not have got hassled.
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:08am
- GazzaW
  
  Shoiuldn’t there still be one of them here remanded in custody to appear on a fraud charge?
  
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  January 28, 2019 2:25pm
- Inandout
  
  Welfare rich, and tourists to boot. Some pleb has to work to keep these ‘entitled ones’.
  
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  January 28, 2019 2:36pm
EAD_THREE

To mark International Holocaust Day –
(there is only one apparently according to the MSM and Trump Haters) – the American people have had their pockets raided to pay for Holocaust Holograms in Chicago so they can be permanantly reminded of the unique suffering of Jews and that they must resist closing their borders (unlike Israel) less another Holocaust happens:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-this-holocaust-museum-you-can-speak-with-holograms-of-survivors/

Hopefully these holograms will tell the stories of the evil German people like how they were going to kill Anne Frank, which is why they treated her at two separate hospitals, trying to cure her of typhus so they could get the job done….. Makes perfect homicidal sense.

Maybe these holograms can tell the stories of those those, who after 3 years in “extermination camps” survived after the Germans just “ran out of gas”. Did these stupid genocidal maniac Germans not think about shooting them or not feeding them any more?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2868386/Woman-SURVIVED-gas-chamber-turns-101-Auschwitz-victim-lived-room-ran-gas-celebrates-birthday.html

But what I mainly hope for is for these made up holograms is to tell the American people how they helped win the war and “make the world safe for democracy”…..

& mass third-world migration,
& hollow consumerism
& multi trillion $ debts to Bankers
& escalating sexual degeneracy including Transgenderism.
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- EAD_THREE
  
  But don’t worry Americans, even though it is now being made illegal to inform parents that their child is “transitioning” after receiving a heavy dose of State propaganda in school and from the MSM about how they could be boys trapped in girls bodies, in Israel at least, all signs of degeneracy are being ruthlessly stamped on:
  
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers-approve-bill-to-block-internet-porn/
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:15am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Dave Mann
  Do EAdolf’s comments count as an example of ‘a forum for you to continually and repeatedly masturbate about your mental illness’?
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:35am
  - RRM
    
    ACHTUNG!
    
    JOOOOOOOOOOODEN!
    
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    January 28, 2019 11:23am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Maybe just a little not, Mike…. but it’s always somewhat risky telling a Nazi to fuck off…. 😀
    
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    January 28, 2019 5:40pm
The Heat

Some Greens MPs seem very confused about who the government is.

Hint: You’re it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110184004/annual-waihopai-spy-base-protest-takes-aim-at-donald-trump

“He was joined by Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson and several current or former Green MPs, continuing a tradition of the party’s involvement in the protest that stretched back to the mid-1990s.

While addressing the crowd, Davidson said more pressure was needed on the government to ensure NZ’s spy activity remained in the best interests of the country. ”

Surreal.
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January 28, 2019 10:33am
- Longknives
  
  She is a very special girl….
  
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  January 28, 2019 10:40am
  - The Heat
    
    The Greens are particularly impotent in government because their entire modus operandi is shouty protest and “talking truth to power”.
    
    Some just wander on in a state of confusion protesting and talking truth against…themselves.
    
    Same goes for Peters. “Holding the government to account” doesn’t work either when you’re it. Peters has been a little more clever because he understood leverage and leads Labour around like a puppy dog.
    
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    January 28, 2019 11:18am
    - Longknives
      
      Peters is as cunning as a Shithouse Rat.
      Davidson is just Shit…
      
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      January 28, 2019 11:36am
Jack5

Hell, we don’t even own the country’s major house building firms and developers.

New Zealand has been well and truly sold out by its politicians.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12196138
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January 28, 2019 10:48am
- fernglas
  
  Just as well we don’t. At least the foreigners might get something done and to some reasonable level of quality.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:36am
  - Jack5
    
    There are housing shortages in Australia and Britain, and probably quite a few other places.
    
    The Fletcher’s Group, once a star of business, was New Zealand owned. It got its start helping meet a housing shortage.
    
    Foreign ownership hasn’t helped the NZ construction industry, and its bad for the balance of payments.
    
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    January 28, 2019 3:50pm
RRM

London police “tactical contact” cutting crime wave of iPhone-thieving moped riders…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/23/met-police-say-tough-tactics-have-reduced-violent-moped
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January 28, 2019 11:08am
- marcw
  
  A few lessons there for our Police “Service” in the way they deal with pursuits – the current ‘Pull out, Pull out’ policy is the main reason why the number has increased. Surprised the Met Police had the cajones to institute this effective response. Well done them.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:51am
  - auckwood
    
    The ‘Pull out’ policy has never been effective and has resulted in some really unfortunate accidents over time…. why the hell would they want to apply it to police pursuits is beyond me…
    
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    January 28, 2019 12:31pm
  - kowtow
    
    I suspect the cucked Met were starting to feel the heat from the media and others about how their response to “institutionalised racism” meant the streets have been turned over to black baddies.
    
    The media are calling it “Wild West Britain”
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:07pm
Michael

I see notso is back, still jabbering on about Lundy.
Lundy had no motive he says. I reckon a $250000 insurance payout would be a pretty good motive, specially as Lundy was living on the bones of his arse.
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January 28, 2019 11:11am
- lifesgood
  
  Seems he had to go to prostitutes for sex too.
  
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  January 28, 2019 1:08pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yep, and they all needed paying.
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:33pm
- DigNap15
  
  And his wife was not exactly miss world.
  
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  January 28, 2019 5:36pm
MH

Yes and shane Jones may get a deal with the EU to plant seedlings in the Black Forest.

When is Jaincinderator back in town-I hope she declares her single use plastic bag at customs-the one with grass clippings in- for her consorts personal collection taken from Gretna Green.
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January 28, 2019 11:13am
Michael

Another shut down in 20 days, unless. And the last one is estimated to have cost the country six billion, more than Trump wants for his wall.
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/27/18199471/trump-government-shutdown-again-mulvaney
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January 28, 2019 11:21am
- fernglas
  
  So the shutdown he took responsibility for has used up the money? I guess that’s an end to it now.
  
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  January 28, 2019 11:40am
Hugh Pavletich

UPDATE … NEW ZEALAND: Coming in to the 15th year since the release of the first Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey early 2005 , isn’t it past time for a political consensus to restore (not invent) affordable housing in New Zealand ? …

Surely … the gravity of the situation is ‘sinking in’ to Tauranga Member of Parliament and National Party leader Simon Bridges …

Tauranga world’s eighth most unaffordable housing market | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/01/tauranga-world-s-eighth-most-unaffordable-housing-market.html

… as outlined on Monday 21 January, the day of the release of this years Demographia Survey …

Lack of land, infrastructure blamed for rising Tauranga house prices | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/01/lack-of-land-infrastructure-blamed-for-rising-tauranga-house-prices.html

,,, as the problems have been known about for years … and years … and years …

Housing through the decades, what is affordable? | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2016/08/housing-through-the-decades-what-is-affordable.html

Why are the smaller local authority units of Waimakariri and Selwyn functional … while the Christchurch City Council is not ?

Why hasn’t Simon Bridges been asked this question ? … refer consent rates per 1000 population graphs at http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/2017%20Information.html

Change … to work … must be a 3 stage process.

Change the structures (land supply & infrastructure financing) … then the culture (note 2018 3 IPSOS Issues surveys) … then the law.

To work … the law must mirror the culture.

We learned with the late 80’s / early 90’s changes from the former Town & Country Planning Act to the Resource Management Act that attempting to use the law to drive the changes does not work.

We have had near on 30 years to learn that !
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January 28, 2019 12:08pm
Paulus Gnome

‘We have had near on 30 years to learn that!’

I sincerely hope that I do not have to endure 30 years of your cut, paste, repost and rehash self promoting before you become a reasonable voice in this forum on property issues, clearly a topic you are knowledgeable and passionate about but are as welcoming as a haemorrhoid
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January 28, 2019 12:25pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Copy earlier post …
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/01/general_debate_26_january_2019.html/comment-page-1#comment-2411203 … and… https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/01/australia-day-long-weekend-links-26-28-january-2019/#comment-3275875
  
  … DEMOGRAPHIA HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SURVEY MONDAY RELEASE: A MASSIVE RESPONSE …
  
  Government needs to act quickly to fix housing market … Hugh Pavletich discusses with Mike Yardley … NewstalkZB
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/larry-williams-drive/audio/hugh-pavletich-kiwibuild-needs-a-revamp-to-fix-the-housing-market/
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  Housing in all main NZ markets now ‘severely unaffordable’ | Hugh Pavletich discusses with Morning Reports Susie Ferguson | RNZ News
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/380511/housing-in-all-main-nz-markets-now-severely-unaffordable
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  Demographia In The News
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=demographia&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZzpSb5YngAhUGeisKHZYyCgMQ_AUIDigB&biw=462&bih=410
  
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  January 28, 2019 1:34pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Paulus old chap … Isn’t it well past time the few handbrakes within the National Party FINALLY (after 14+ years) stopped whining … and joined the mainstream ?
    
    Refer the 3 IPSOS ISSUES Surveys of 2018 …
    
    https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=0VNOXKTgBoG_rQHvoJ2IDA&q=ipsos+new+zealand+issues+monitor&oq=nz+ipsos+issues&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i22i30.203285.219906..228888…9.0..2.448.5674.3j17j8j1j1……0….1..gws-wiz…..0..0j0i131j0i22i10i30.F-TT6qJZUEg
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:04pm
    - sooty
      
      In your dreams!
      
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      January 28, 2019 3:18pm
MrTips

Interesting editorial on NBR re the upcoming sale of Stuff by Nine (you need a subscription to read it): https://www.nbr.co.nz/analysis/a100m-stuff-they-re-dreaming

Synopsis
Stuff is rooted. It has maybe 2yrs or a recession before its EBIT goes -ve. Fairfax monumentally cocked up with its acquisitions in mid-2000s onwards when it should have been selling.

Expect more desperate scribblings in 2019 from Watkins, Joel Maxwell et al. as they shift the deck chairs…
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January 28, 2019 12:30pm
- Jules99
  
  Well the Huff Post and Buzzfeed have been shedding staff and they offer a vastly superior product (while still being fake news). Where will all the SJW writers go now?
  
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  January 28, 2019 12:37pm
  - kowtow
    
    Journalism lecturers need to be telling their students that they are in a twilight industry , while there is a growing demand for honest , reputable people to work in the aged care sector ………
    
    ……..but that would rule out 99% of journalism students.
    
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    January 28, 2019 1:00pm
- The Heat
  
  http://www.realviewdigital.com/dramatic-drop-value-newspaper-businesses/
  
  Methinks more likely around the Tampa Tribute value if this analysis is correct.
  
  The serious end of the media industry needs a major rethink around information quality. They are always going to get beaten at trash entertainment by social media.
  
  It’s difficult to believe this needs saying, but reporting on reddit posts has a value of precisely zero.
  
  I doubt the new form will be an aggregated newspaper. More likely a fact-checking mechanism. They need to restore trust if they are to charge.
  
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  January 28, 2019 12:59pm
Michael

fernglas,
it’s my guess that your guess is wrong.
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January 28, 2019 12:46pm
cmm

Stuff being clueless about how weather works:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110203682/new-zealand-heatwave–the-science-behind-why-its-so-hot

Apparently hot air from Oz normally gets cooled by going over the Tasman and this is not happening. They present that as science.

Hmmm.

It’s actually reasonably cool over in the West Coast right now. 18 degrees and raining.

What Stuff seems to not understand is how adiabatic warming works.

As the air is wet air is pushed up over the ranges, it rains and thus the air dries. When it comes down on the eastern side, it is now dry and hence warms faster. Thus it comes down warmer than when it went up. Hence North Westerly winds etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind
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January 28, 2019 1:19pm
- auckwood
  
  Whats that old saying…. ‘Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!’
  Or as the CoL misheard it.. ‘Never let the truth get in the way of reading between the lines on your lawnmower while texting hardcore n co’
  
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  January 28, 2019 1:32pm
- oldgolfer
  
  Don’t expect the juniors at Stuff to understand anything.
  This is the site that put up a Breaking News banner saying it was going to be hot.
  It is January, not July.
  
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  January 28, 2019 2:32pm
- mandk
  
  NZHerald is reporting that Richmond just had its highest minimum temperature in 156 years.
  
  Where are temperature readings taken in Richmond, and how much asphalt, brick and concrete did it have 156 years ago?
  
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  January 28, 2019 2:49pm
  - simpleton1
    
    Yes mandk, just another agenda to push by ‘consensus’.
    Apples and Oranges, well it all remains the same for some.
    With the bush canopy overhead, as the cool air moved downwards from the surrounding hills, a small stream flowing, well that was over 100 years ago.
    That is before temperature adjustments for allowing these modern systems of temperature measurements.
    
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    January 28, 2019 2:57pm
MrTips

This has gotta hurt, a nice zinger on the JLR saga from Josh Cameron.
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January 28, 2019 1:41pm
- Herodotus
  
  Hoe does the reporter maintain her anonymity ?
  Should not the naming of this reporter also me made public, as any reporting is tarred by a biased nature or the reporter trying to “manage/manipulate” any perception.
  
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  January 28, 2019 5:15pm
dime

Good news munro, you can take the rest of the summer off.
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January 28, 2019 3:16pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  26/2. Here we go again.
  
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  January 28, 2019 3:28pm
  - Longknives
    
    Only a few weeks ago many were crowing (even here on Kiwiblog) that the World Cup was in the bag!
    
    I still think this is the strongest NZ Cricket team I’ve seen since the glory days of the 80s- But playing India is certainly one heck of a wake up call after flogging a disinterested Sri Lanka B….
    
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    January 28, 2019 3:56pm
    - MT_Tinman
      
      The test team are rated #3.
      
      All else is irrelevant.
      
      As an aside the coloured clothing boys struggled to beat an uninterested Sri Lanka B in ODI and the candyfloss crap.
      
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      January 28, 2019 4:16pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Nice correction of Lonknives’s faulty use of ‘disinterested’.
        Always good to see how happy he is if a New Zealand team is struggling.
        
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        January 28, 2019 4:40pm
    - dime
      
      I think we should make the semis.
      
      England, India and probably oz are better teams
      
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      January 28, 2019 6:18pm
      - pentwig
        
        always good when you show your nasty side milkmaid
        
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        January 28, 2019 7:22pm
DigNap15

Scroll down to the third pic to see what is in charge of Housing NZ.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110204118/construction-on-68-kiwibuild-homes-in-new-plymouth-yet-to-begin

And she holds quite a few other senior positions.

How the hell did she get those.
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January 28, 2019 5:33pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  That is not a public servant. That is a state sector employed. Done nothing except get employed and sit on the arse to make the arse fatter.
  Who wood have known?
  
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  January 28, 2019 5:43pm
- starboard
  
  Pressures on Twitford .. he looks like shit.
  
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  January 28, 2019 7:48pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well, the Nats installed her.
  Adrienne Young-Cooper has had a 30-year-plus career in resource management and planning, specialising in in metropolitan growth and management. She started her Auckland planning career in the Central Area Planning Team in the Civic Building 100 metres from the Greys Avenue site. She has chaired the HNZ board since September 2015.
  https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=84935195&privcapId=26523499
  
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  January 28, 2019 7:53pm
Manolo

stephieboy’s new poster girl and idol:
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/01/27/kamala-harris-president-oakland-rally-campaign-kickoff/
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January 28, 2019 5:36pm
- stephieboy
  
  I still want Hillary to run! She still has a good chance:
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hillary-clinton-tells-friends-shes-leaving-2020-door-open/ar-BBSNIUu?li=BBnbcA1
  
  or Ocasio Cortez
  
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  January 28, 2019 7:32pm
  - Swifty
    
    Why does Hillary lie so much?
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:15pm
- nasska
  
  Hillary Clinton has analysed the role that sexism played in her loss to Donald Trump.
  
  “I think many more people would have voted for me if I wasn’t such a ghastly, dishonest & miserable bitch,” she said.
  
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  January 28, 2019 7:50pm
  - sooty
    
    Have you got the shits, stephieboy. Becauses she’s enough to give everybody the runs!
    
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    January 28, 2019 7:54pm
    - nasska
      
      She’s got plenty to spare! 🙂
      
      https://imgflip.com/i/17tyqo
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:03pm
      - Swifty
        
        What an unfortunate photo.
        
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        January 28, 2019 8:16pm
      - Swifty
        
        She shoudn’t be wearing that colour at her age anyway.
        
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        January 28, 2019 8:17pm
Inandout

Mark Levin has all the facts at his fingertips, and this guest Sydney Powell has an excellent pedigree. The creature Weisman seems to be pulling Mueller’s strings, but if you have the time, a fascinating look at the FBI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1AeCxnaMCE
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January 28, 2019 7:44pm
Swifty

She’s been a pretty dry summer here at the Avondale Chilli Farm – but with judicious use of water and supplements we now have capsicums the size of your head.

I put it down to the early start we got this year (due to a warm spring) and the use of significant quantities of soluble (fish and seaweed) fertilisers for the first time this year.
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January 28, 2019 8:11pm
- nasska
  
  Good start Swifty. Next year try growing something the punters want. 🙂
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:18pm
  - Swifty
    
    But you’ve never tried my roasted peppers nasska……
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:20pm
    - nasska
      
      With reasonable luck I’ll make it to the grave still not knowing Swifty.
      
      I’m a roast hogget, spuds & two veg man myself. 🙂
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:23pm
      - Swifty
        
        Heh.
        
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        January 28, 2019 8:27pm
Southern Raider

Herald is going full on retard TDS at the moment. In the last hour or so the two headline stories have been different anti trump articles
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January 28, 2019 8:18pm
Southern Raider

What is it about the Gore’s and going full retard on public good causes that aren’t real

Was watching some documentaries about Heavy Metal in the 80’s and of course the mad Christian women blaiming it for everything from suicide to going to hell. The lead spokeswomen for the PMRC was a Tipper Gore.

Just looked up google and sure enough she was Al “climate change will kill us” Gore’s bimbo wife
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January 28, 2019 8:24pm
- EAD_THREE
  
  mad Christian women blaiming it for everything from suicide to going to hell
  
  But heavy metal is a pretty soulless crap attempt at “music” though isn’t it Southern Raider? You couldn’t resist a dig at “Christians” could you?
  
  What do you then make of all those mad foaming at the mouth Jews and their attacks on Radio Stations who played Wagner – arguably the greatest composer of all time?
  
  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45393904
  
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  January 28, 2019 8:45pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    “Six six six the number of the beast. Hell and fire was spawned to be released”
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:49pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    You obviously don’t know much about Heavy Metal. Maybe try broadening your music tasks from just listening to Cliff Richard
    
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    January 28, 2019 8:52pm
    - EAD_THREE
      
      Led Zepplin is about as close as I got to Heavy Metal there Southern Raider (by the way – what does that term mean? Is it a moniker similar to “mow the grass?)
      
      More of a classical guy myself – nothing beats listening to the great German, Russian & British composers. They are the apex of musical talent in all of human history – nothing beats gotterdammerung & The Year 1812 Solemn Overture
      
      In terms of “modern music” – Roger Waters & Eric Clapton for me.
      
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      January 28, 2019 8:59pm
      - Southern Raider
        
        Surprise surprise one anti Semite listening to music of another one
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:13pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        Oy Veyy Southern Raider❗
        
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        January 28, 2019 9:20pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    Interesting
    
    “Mad Christian women” = 5 upticks
    “Mad Jewish folks” = 7 downticks
    
    I know the MSM all bang the drum about “Russian interference” but perhaps Kiwiblog is suffering from “Israeli interference” ?
    
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    January 28, 2019 10:32pm
cha

Did someone tell super serum Mike about the 72 virgins?

Christianity has given us a country where 11 year olds dance for adult men who throw dollars on the stage. Christianity gave us a church that molested children and sold out their flock (Covington) to the left.A moderated form of Islam is probably the West’s only hope. https://t.co/kwwUsAdsfU— Mike Cernovich ??? (@Cernovich) January 27, 2019
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January 28, 2019 8:26pm
Monique Watson

John Wilson, Ex-Fonterra dies. age 54. Jayzus that is too young. Good Kiwi farming bloke.
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January 28, 2019 8:42pm
starboard

I just got a bad case of diarrhea and vomited in my mouth 5 times after reading this fucking shit…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/110204611/hilary-barrys-great-leap-of-faith-and-how-its-paid-off
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January 28, 2019 9:29pm
nasska

Humpty Trumpty built a big Wall

None of the snowflakes liked that at all.

They petitioned the papers but they blamed “toxic men”

And so Humpty Trumpty got elected again
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January 28, 2019 9:43pm
Viking2

You think the Nats are for enterprise and raising standards!
Well not according to Nikki Kaye.
She is happy to have education remain a union infested swamp.

National’s Education Spokesperson, Nikki Kaye, was also vehemently opposed to performance pay.

“I’ve had a lot of feedback from teachers across the country. They quite like ACT’s policy in terms of paying teachers more, but we don’t support performance pay,” she said.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/01/act-calls-for-performance-pay-to-combat-mass-teacher-vacancies.html?fbclid=IwAR2jCAgasjBr_FD7cqPe7UZm9RSiRc8MxjT0Jvt_rT7o0y7pRjlpKKy3N18

time for Simon to root out the socialists in his lot.
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January 29, 2019 7:16am
Monicabrown

if you need his help you can reach him on Dr.mack201@ (gmail. com), for any thing on relationship or anything you can think of for he is very powerful and so real…..?
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