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peterwn

‘Just ridiculous’: Auckland woman ‘dumbfounded’ by $7.30 coffee – see
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2018/12/just-ridiculous-auckland-woman-dumbfounded-by-7-30-coffee.html
Has she tried buying a cup of coffee in St Mark’s Square, Venice? Price of coffee there is insane (15 euros – $NZ25), mind you there is great ambience and live music.
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December 4, 2018 8:01am
- Woz
  
  That would be about the same as the price of a cup of coffee in Akaroa when a cruise ship is anchored offshore.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:06am
- cmm
  
  I am gobsmacked by these entitled people expressing outrage over coffee prices or whatever. They seem to feel they are entitled to get anything they want at the prices they want.
  
  If you don’t like the deal, then walk away.
  
  Pretty bloody basic!
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:08am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I remember the excellent 100 yen coffee from a Lawson’s convenience store in Akihabara, and a short walk to a small, quiet park in Tokyo.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:09am
  - sooty
    
    You have to feel sorry for the lady, first time in 10yrs she goes out and buys a coffee and she got charged more than she paid, 10yrs ago.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:14am
    - starboard
      
      7/11 cappuccino here in Phuket, one of the better ones I’ve had..$1.00 nz..but Ive seen them as high as $3.00 in the trendy bum cafes.
      
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      December 4, 2018 12:37pm
- Simon
  
  by $7.30 coffee,
  
  Taxes, high minimum wages, increased rates, heavy regulation. There is your $7.30 coffee. You voted for it. Suck it up.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:13am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Increased rent
    All the flow on from fuel tax
    Imagine how much it will be when all the effects of CGT hit the market place.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:19am
    - sooty
      
      Just add in the living wage.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:37am
  - smttc
    
    You’re the arsehole who suggested last year we should “let the other mongs have a go”.
    
    Suck it up yourself.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:08am
  - The Heat
    
    “Lets do this!”
    
    Means
    
    $7.30 for a coffee
    
    And rising
    
    If socialists actually understood costs I don’t think there would be very many of them.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:30am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I hope the cafe is paying staff living wage.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:44am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  $7.30 is not the cost of the coffee. It is the cost of the property rental, the minimum wage, and compliance with regulations.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:15am
  - GazzaW
    
    Early signs of inflation largely fed by this useless Government’s policies.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:35am
- lifesgood
  
  Buy a Nesspresso, make your own for around $1.50 a cup. Recoup the cost of the machine in no time.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:21am
  - MickMac
    
    tastes shit
    Use granulated
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:02am
    - Woz
      
      That tastes like shit too. Buy yourself an espresso machine and learn how to use it. You don’t need a fancy one, and you don’t need expensive beans that have passed through a civet.
      
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      December 4, 2018 9:59am
      - Jack5
        
        Or drink tea. Leave coffee for the celebrities, the fadsters …
        
        “Tea tempers the spirit and harmonizes the mind; dispels lassitude and relieves fatigue, awakens thought and prevents drowsiness.”
        
        – Lu Yu
        
        And:
        
        “Tea is one of the main stays of civilization in this country.”
        
        George Orwell
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:24am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I have an espresso machine (a very basic Breville duo temp, purchased new several years ago).
    A 250-gram packet of ground coffee is about $4.20 on special, and I guess I get about 20 cups, making the cost of the coffee per cup about 21 cents.
    
    If I can save $3 per cup, then I can buy a new espresso machine after 100 cups (or about 6 weeks’ worth of daily caffeine addiction).
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:10am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Nespresso is fine. Not as good as a proper espresso machine but close enough given the convenience factor. I have both. An espresso for home and Nespresso on the boat.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:16am
    - sooty
      
      You rich prick!
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:40am
      - septic skeptic
        
        ???
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:18am
- Lance
  
  Sooooo…………….
  
  She was forced at gunpoint to buy it?
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:28am
- alex Masterley
  
  It is not even coffee.
  Standard snowflake whinging.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:30am
- Longknives
  
  Jacinda set to announce a $30 million dollar ‘working group’ this morning looking into the outrageous price of coffee for Aucklanders..
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:46am
  - peterwn
    
    And the UN will probably set up a similar group looking at the price of coffee sold at World Heritage Sites.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:06am
- redeye
  
  “a large decaffeinated soy flat white to go.” is not a coffee.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:48am
  - Rich Prick
    
    And $7.20 of it is actually the snowflake tax.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:57am
- holysheet
  
  Try paying nz$ 36 for a glass of wine in Harrods food hall. Must say my desire for a glass didn’t extend to paying that.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:51am
  - hullkiwi
    
    hs, you should have gone over the road to Harvey Nics & gone up stairs to the bar. The wine wouldn’t have been any cheaper, but there would have been fewer tourists and the ladies at that bar would ensure you maxed out your credit card.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:17am
- backster
  
  The Commerce Commission should be instructed to conduct an enquiry into the cost of retailed cups of coffee to ensure there is no profiteering. A budget of $2 million and report back in a year.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:21am
  - MH
    
    add in the cost of recycling the cups, the sugar, the stirrer….
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:12am
- KevinH
  
  Since when is a decaf/soy a coffee? If she had bought a regular flat white she would have paid $4.80.
  The cafe must rub their hands in glee when these clowns walk in the door.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:36am
- dime
  
  the shit head ordered a decaf soy latte. should have been $40
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:49am
  - Komata
    
    Note: ‘She won’t be going back, at least as long as prices remain that high’.
    
    Translated: She enjoyed her 15 minutes of fame and can’t WAIT to find something else to astound her so that she can complain some more and get another 15 minutes.
    
    I’m told fame, like coffee (and even lawn clippings), is quite addictive…
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:07am
- GoVege
  
  I recently paid $6 for a beautiful latte at McDonald’s.
  I was served by two friendly Maori ladies.
  I wanted to applaud them for working for a living… 🙂
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:12am
  - bouden
    
    Don’t think that was necessary. Vast bulk of Maori (like anyone else) do work for a living, aren’t in prison, aren’t on drugs, and don’t bash up their families.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:22pm
    - GoVege
      
      You’re probably right, bouden, but I meet quite a few with huge numbers of kids.
      And you must always keep your passenger side window closed going through a drive-through or you are liable to get someone leaning through asking for money.
      Last time it happened they kept asking for more until I realised I’d parted with $9!
      
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      December 4, 2018 12:43pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Hey ‘Just Ridiculous Auckland Woman’ (love the title): I pay about that much for my $5.50 coffee *when the service is good* and I pop a coin into the tip jar.
  
  But you probably voted for the ‘living wage for all’ and ‘equal outcomes for everyone’ party etc: so indeed, suck it up.
  
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  December 4, 2018 12:45pm
Captain Mainwaring

So now there are more allegations of bullying against Maggie Barry, as well as Retirement Commissioner Diane Maxwell being stood down while an enquiry goes on about her own alleged bullying of staff.
And that’s not all. Comrade Cindy has pushed the button on a new enquiry on fuel prices, when it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain why fuel costs more anywhere south of Kapiti. NO GULL. And, they’ve fattened their margins to make room for all the discount cards.
If anyone can convince me that all these enquiries are nothing more than an attempt to deflect attention from the biggest issue of the decade, the Stroubek affair, then I’ve got a big bridge to sell you.
But you’ll have to collect it from Sydney.
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December 4, 2018 8:02am
- RW Capitalist
  
  The biggest profiteer in fuel prices…the govt.
  Who was that Labour MP that bruised her aid, for not getting her face in a screen shot with JA?
  Bullying smokescreen…much?
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:07am
- peterwn
  
  And what about the workers who have been bullied by trade union officials some of whom later become Labour MP’s. I remember in the past being bullied by two senior PSA (the union representing many groups of public servanys – since extended to local body staff etc) officials at different times because they did not like my attitude. Why cannot I see an inquiry taking place, with an apology and compensation from the trade union movement.
  Seems the Professional Firefighters Union is the one of the worst for bullying.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:08am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Try keeping a job on the Inter island ferry’s, without being in a union.
    Or so I have heard.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:20am
    - slightlyrighty
      
      Having attended a few of the meetings for the Ferry, I can only say that if the firefighters are worse, then I wouldn’t want to be a member
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:27am
- VicParking
  
  I bullying charge against Comrade Cindy would be a slam dunk.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:14am
- secondcumming
  
  Must say I’m right with Maggie Barry on this one……
  *Jesse Mulligan is PATHETIC*!! (just ask Mike Hosking. LOL)
  
  https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1069498475958755328
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:22am
  - 3-coil
    
    The “big Jessie” is indeed truly pathetic, this example just illustrates it yet again.
    
    The term “soy-boy” was invented specifically to describe him.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:39am
    - sooty
      
      Who’s Jesse Mulligan when she’s home?
      A legend in her own mind?
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:46am
- Lance
  
  If the petrol companies were smart, they would hang a BIG ARSE pie graph above the checkouts, with the govt take clearly marked in fluorescent colours.
  The CoL diversionary tactics would be seen for what they are then.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:31am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    That would be great, just a big sticker on all bowsers saying $1.10 (or thereabouts) of the price is TAX, a daily reminder for taxpayers.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:33am
  - KevinH
    
    There has been a rally in the price of oil this week, following a pause in the trade war between China and the USA.
    However, the price of a barrel of West Texas crude is trading around $USD 52.87, down from a high of $USD85.00 in October, the dramatic fall attributed to an oversupply situation where production is ahead of demand.
    Both Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed to reduce production to ease the oversupply situation.
    Oil is currently trading at a 10 year low, the price per barrel not having been seen since the GFC, with oil-producing nations such as the UK experiencing tight margins between production costs at $USD52.50 p/b vs $USD53.00 market price p/b.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:08am
  - kloyd0306
    
    This needs to happen.
    It is farcical that govt officials can wag the finger at oil companies and retailers but completely ignore their percentage of the sale.
    The cheek of it……..
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:11am
    - Lance
      
      The old saying
      “The best means of defense is attack”
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:27am
      - sooty
        
        I have to ask the question, why would a private company open their books for the goverment?
        Surely all they can ask for is the balance sheet?
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:49am
      - Jack5
        
        Sooty, are you sweating?
        
        How could a tax system work without having the right to check your accounts in detail?
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:27am
- G152
  
  Seem to recall a National member trying to sort the fuel prices out and the opposition opposed them
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:41am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    When petrol hit $2.40 the harridan stated NZers were being fleeced by the oil companies.
    
    Now petrol looks like going below $2.00 are NZers now fleecing the oil companies?
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:49am
- tf78
  
  Cindy doesn’t understand the correlation between oil prices and exchange rates (plus Govt taxes) -everything economic seems to be above her pay grade.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:04am
  - sooty
    
    But, but she teaches that in all of nzs kindys!
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:51am
artemisia

Thinking about poll results, trends and our Prime Minister. Can’t help but think Ms Ardern would not be sorry to be out of government and the big chair after the next election or even earlier.

On the plus side she has already achieved personally beyond her wildest dreams, updated her CV, for years will have serious celebrity status locally and internationally.

On the other side, she looks and probably is tired and stressed, making mistakes, leading a government with rogue and incompetent elements, rumours of various sorts swirling.

So she steps down or out, one way or the other, leaves the mess for a new government to clean up. More time with the baby and to keep the old dog on the porch (or not).
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December 4, 2018 8:03am
- RW Capitalist
  
  All from a silly little girl, who claimed, at the time, to not want the leadership.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:04am
  - hullkiwi
    
    What can I say? She lied…..
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:16am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Before or after she said that she didn’t see the reason for politicians to lie?
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:22am
      - calendar girl
        
        No place for lies in politics, Ardern told us – and not something that she indulged in.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:33am
  - artemisia
    
    Actually I believe she didn’t want the leadership. But ‘events, dear boy, events’ and then too late.
    
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    December 4, 2018 1:20pm
- cmm
  
  I thought so too.
  
  I thought she’s just call it quits (blaming alt-right harassment for some feelz) and go be mum.
  
  But no, the rush of power is HUGE and she wants it all. More important than family. More important than anything.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:10am
  - sooty
    
    Her double wraped arse just luuves them nice comfy heated leather seats in the limo!
    So does Jimmy two mums. Much better than the back seat of a taxi.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:21am
  - Paulus
    
    Yes, it appears that being a real Celebrity is better than being a solo mother.
    No wonder !
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:26am
    - Viking2
      
      Wonder if she can find the time to have another. 6 would be good.
      sooner the better.
      Or is the fisherman not home much these days?
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:39am
      - sooty
        
        She’s not a solo mother, she has staff!!!
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:53am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    For her, it’s all about socialism: making NZ as socialist as she can. She’s an absolute extremist and will sacrifice her health and family time to achieve socialism.
    
    Anyone who has seen her on stage as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth knows how extreme she is. She reveals it in many interviews as well. Anyone who so clearly doesn’t want capitalism is an extremist.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:55pm
- Harkman
  
  Funny thing, she may have already peaked in the polls. The gloss is coming off her counterparts Macron and Trudeau. It’s only a matter of time Cindy.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:56am
  - sooty
    
    I’ll shout the person a beer that throws the first egg!
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:54am
- MrsAnnie
  
  She will want another baby- speaking from experience- if polls stay this way or worsen she will bail before 2020- she is low energy and lacks Helen Clarks balls.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:34am
  - sooty
    
    She may bail as PM, but she can’t afford to chuck her seat! New house, car, boyfriend, masarati!
    She’s backbench for ever!
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:56am
- Faroffsound
  
  I’d be looking tired and stressed if I had to deal with the likes of Winston every day.
  
  And the longer she stays the more likely it is that there will be some sort of meltdown of the coalition.
  
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  December 4, 2018 2:37pm
RW Capitalist

TV3
Winnie getting a long segment…WHY?
Perhaps because he is now down to Mr 4%?
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December 4, 2018 8:03am
- hullkiwi
  
  He is the Acting PM..again….
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:17am
  - sooty
    
    Acting, never to be one!
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:21am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    More like PRETENDING….PM.
    Rather than acting.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:23am
    - hullkiwi
      
      The Elvis song, the Great Pretender always come to mind when I think or hear of Winnie the Poo.
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:52am
      - Longknives
        
        That was The Platters..
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:43am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Longknives, I stand corrected.
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:22am
  - Happychappy
    
    Any nets that caucus has passed his Xmas bribes and allowed to announce them when the Show Pony is overseas. Winston First took a bath in the latest Poll and like usual their will be story’s and lies to say why with a bit of Xmas bribery to go with it if rumours are to be believed. I
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  According to RNZ Morning Report today Winston is Acting PM.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018674016/winston-peters-discusses-chinese-influence-in-nz
  Perhaps Jacinda is somewhere else…
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:18am
  - sooty
    
    Has she left early for a spot of chrissy shopping or thrown a wobblely. Has Jethro and baby gone with her?
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:24am
    - Paulus
      
      Gone to the UN Climate photoshoot in Poland.
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:27am
      - cmm
        
        But we have a Climate Change Minister for all that!
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:07am
      - RightFirstTime
        
        Has she taken a photo shoot crew with her or is she picking up the crew from New York on the way?
        
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        December 4, 2018 12:05pm
Sofia

Much was made of –
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s debut speech to the United Nations General Assembly promoted a world view that stands in stark contrast to United States President Donald Trump.

In its concluding points – Perhaps then it is time to step back from the chaos and ask what we want. It is in that space that we’ll find simplicity. The simplicity of peace, of prosperity, of fairness. If I could distil it down into one concept that we are pursuing in New Zealand it is simple and it is this. Kindness.

So much ‘kindness’ that –
An independent review into bullying and harassment of staff at Parliament has been launched by Speaker Trevor Mallard, who says all parties have problems in the area.
“Incidents have occurred over many years in this building that are unacceptable,” Mallard said.

Ardern’s UN speech –
for your consideration: Mental Dissonance, 2018 Darwin Awards
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December 4, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  The problem with “kindness” is that it is like having a pet unicorn. Everyone wants one, but nobody quite knows how to achieve it.
  
  Taking care of people’s short term wants with hand outs is not kindness. It makes them into dependent welfare slaves and destroys their long-term futures.
  
  Throwing open your borders to allow foreigners to overrun your citizens is not kindness either.
  
  When Trump teargases a few attempted invaders it’s “chemical warfare”. When Obama did the same thing it was, apparently, “love gas”.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:16am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Kindness” is like the “hate” in “hate speech.”
    
    Everyone feels what it means, but nobody can objectively define what it means. Emotions (such as “hate”) can easily be weaponized by groups with an agenda to achieve their political goals.
    
    Let’s make it illegal not to be kind. What could possibly go wrong?
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:14am
- Simon
  
  Kindness = political correctness. Ardern clownshow.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:23am
  - Felt
    
    “Kindness is the excuse that social justice warriors use when they want to exercise control over what other people think and say.”
    
    ― Jordan B. Peterson
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:48pm
Yvette

Why will it take a year to work out what costs, profit margins and taxes make up the price of a litre of petrol?
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December 4, 2018 8:10am
- dave_c_
  
  It’s called ‘kicking the can’ (of petrol perhaps) down the road.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:16am
- Biscuit
  
  Yvette:
  
  Because Jassy and her colleagues, not dreaming for a moment they’d ‘win’ the last Election, hadn’t bothered to spend any their ‘nine years if neglect’ actually doing any research for their policies in that period.
  
  A simple Google search of ‘Cost break-up of a litre of petrol in New Zealand’ by me this a.m. took my PC 0.6 seconds to come up with ‘about 2,390,000 results’, the top-most one of which had a pretty AA graph that reckoned:
  Price components of a litre of petrol ($2.39) as at 25 October 2018:
  2% Shipping
  35% Refined fuel
  19% Importer Margin
  2% ETS
  13% GST
  29% Fuel Excise
  
  Who needs an enquiry?
  
  You can’t much influence the – quite low – cost of Shipping or the cost of making the crude oil into petrol or diesel.
  
  You can’t tamper much with the Importer Margin either. Those guys have to make a living, meet their own costs … and pay the self-same taxes that you and I get slammed with.
  
  So that’s 57% of the cost of a litre of petrol that is pretty much set in concrete.
  
  What’s the other 43%?
  
  Love the terminology there – ETS, GST and Fuel Excise.
  
  These are TAXES … and can be lowered by a caring Government at its will.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:31am
  - Biscuit
    
    Oops., can’t count.
    
    It’s worse than I thought:
    
    56% is set in concrete
    44% is Government-imposed
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    Taxes..lowered…
    
    Surely you jest.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:48am
  - Rich Prick
    
    A 19% retail margin is pathetic. I actually feel sorry for these guys who bother with a remote country of 4.8 million getting the boney finger waved at them. If it were me, I’d pack up and tell Cindy to shove it up her arse.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:10am
  - cmm
    
    “Who needs an enquiry?”
    
    The thousands of report writers in Wellington.
    
    The useless sexual-offending-in-care report is going to cost us $80M: $65M to write the reports and $15M channeled towards actual victim support.
    
    ie. about $4.50 of report writing costs for each $1 directed at actually helping people.
    
    Of course the $15M will largely be absorbed by admin and overheads, meaning only $5M or so actually ends up paying for help. ie a 15 to 1 overhead.
    
    Sounds pretty typical of a government “help” program.
    
    “Free” tampons will end up costing us $50 a box!
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:13am
    - sooty
      
      Kiwi Tampons. Put Twitford incharge quick.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:01am
      - cmm
        
        Made out of left over 2×4.
        
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        December 4, 2018 12:08pm
  - Pascal
    
    Some smart chap on Facebook had a look at Z’s annual return; they were making approximately 6c per litre profit. The government is around 68c per litre in tax.
    
    Ardern is a lying communist.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:39am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes just tell the petrol companies you want to see their cost of oil for the last ten years per barrel.
  And their price to the service stations in the 4 main centres and a few regional towns.
  
  Should take a couple of months at the most.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:42am
  - Happychappy
    
    It’s a business and like most businesses they have to make a profit so if the Show Pony wants to play games this all end up costing more. If it’s not the banks it is the supermarkets so when and where will this excuse for a Prime Minister stop, and before people in business say our supermarkets should looked at because it cheaper for the same products elsewhere in the world you are in business to make a profit not there like this Government to give it away.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:52am
    - sooty
      
      Why are they going to roll out their figures?
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:02am
- Fletch
  
  It’s a ploy to be seen to be doing something without actually doing it. The govt is afraid of protests ala France.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:49am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, could never ever imagine you and the rest of the rabid right rabble on KB and elsewhere taking to the streets ala France.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:52am
    - kloyd0306
      
      …that’s because only leftist rabble are the violent protesters.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:19am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      But then who – outside of your little ctrl-left bubble cares what you imagine?
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:19am
Nukuleka

Finding myself in a school staff room recently I perused a copy of the NZ Education Gazette. If anyone is in any doubt that our country’s education system has been hijacked by ideologues I suggest they lay their hands on a copy and see the disturbingly parallel universe in which our country’s educators live. It is a world which is barely recognisable from the everyday world that most NZers inhabit- certainly the one I live in. And I say this as a person who interacts with Maori, PIs and new immigrants on a daily basis. It is a worry that our children are being indoctrinated in this way by those responsible for the management of our education system.
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December 4, 2018 8:11am
- CHFR1
  
  Have to agree, reading what some of my teacher friends are saying on FB that they think is important makes me shudder. The 3 r’s are not relationships, relationships, relationships.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:27am
  - Morrissey
    
    Actually, they ARE. Without decent relationships, no decent learning or education can take place.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:26am
- Paulus
  
  But I bet they can do Kapa Haka better than read and write.
  No wonder that international standards are getting so low – there is no time left for teaching.
  Its all Social and environmental studies.
  Counting toads perhaps.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:29am
  - Morrissey
    
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    If they can learn the complexities of Kapa Haka, their reading and writing will go through the roof.
    
    Your comments are based on total, abysmal ignorance.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:27am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      That is possibly the most stupid comment I have ever read on this blog. You have surpassed Philure and Stephieboy; times ten squared.
      The number of illiterate Kapa Haka experts I have met is disturbingly large.
      
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      December 4, 2018 9:10pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I have an 8 year old nephew in the indoctrination system, he knows all about climate change, thinks I shouldn’t drive a V8, is Treaty aware and is pretty advanced with gender issues. I set him straight every chance I get, but it’s a bit confusing for the poor kid.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:21am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And all about striking.
    
    I thought about that when four teacher’s were struck by lightening in Hamilton.
    
    Another teacher’s strike. :).
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:51am
- Longknives
  
  Kapa Haka is compulsory at my kid’s School.
  The kids hate it- An aggressive Maori bloke yelling and ranting isn’t for 5 and 6 year old girls..
  Parents have been told there is no compromise- Kapa Haka is compulsory!
  
  Last week there was a Police visit. (The cops brought Patrol Cars and Dogs etc)
  Parents were given the option to ‘opt out’ if they took offence or had any objections to this (I kid you not)
  
  This is New Zealand’s Education system!
  Fuck Teachers- They are beneath contempt…
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:49am
  - Morrissey
    
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    Bullshit. The kids love the haka, just like football crowds love it.
    
    What they used to hate in New Zealand schools was being forced to join the fucking cadets.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:14am
    - Longknives
      
      Little Boys love the Haka Morrissey.
      Little Girls not so much…
      
      (Remember I’m talking about new entrants here..)
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:25am
      - Morrissey
        
        Fair comment.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:28am
      - sooty
        
        I want to see morris dancers in answer to the haka at footy games.
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:06am
    - Lance
      
      I used to LOVE rifle shooting at school, as did every other student, great practical experience in a controlled environment. Now it’s too PC to even hold an unloaded gun.
      What a crock of shit
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:35am
      - MCos
        
        I joined some sort of military inspired outfit when I was about fourteen or so. We used to go somewhere downtown in Timaru and do stuff sand fired off ancient old WWII era bren guns on the beach.
        Dad, who’d seen the real thing and whose brother had been killed wasn’t very happy.
        
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        December 4, 2018 12:30pm
    - namron
      
      Morrisey – you idiot!
      Cadets finished in most High Schools 60 years ago in 1959!
      
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      December 4, 2018 12:22pm
    - Komata
      
      Morrissey
      
      Re: ‘What they used to hate in New Zealand schools was being forced to join the fucking cadets’.
      
      Do tell?
      
      A comment based on personal experience perhaps?
      
      Or did they turn you down and you still resent it?
      
      Thanks.
      
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      December 4, 2018 12:36pm
    - igm
      
      You, with your background, would be the type of gutless leech who dodged cadets . . . personally, I and my friends all rather enjoyed cadets, a number going on to join full-time services.
      Still, being a poofy konshy, you would not concur.
      
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      December 4, 2018 3:58pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Sounds like bullying.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:00pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    As a teacher, I have to say I have sympathy with your position, but not all teachers subscribe to this, (even though some of us have to remain silent… or be hounded out of the profession).
    
    Tell them Kapa Haka is against your religious views as its too violent and you are a pacifist… it might work.
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:38pm
- Peter S
  
  The girls high school my daughter attended has gone down hill in the years since she left.
  More recently they put out an advert that ended
  “******** school where every girl counts.”
  I was always left thinking that, while the statement might be true, reading, spelling, and advanced maths are a different matter.
  
  On further thought, there is plenty of evidence of multiplication.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:54am
- Jules99
  
  I was reading it a while back and noted one job advert for a Maori immersion teacher which said, must have an appreciation of the special role of the Maori King, or similar. This is a state funded school.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:54am
  - septic skeptic
    
    And yet there are those that think Mahuta has achieved nothing in parliament.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:58am
    - sooty
      
      The only thing she achieved was first in line at the meal table.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:07am
hullkiwi

Results of tests for science, creative thinking (investigation, reasoning &logic), writing, & physical education of Year 4 and 8 pupils provide 2 key points.

1. Year 4 results are good – high levels of attainment against expected standard; and
2. Attainment at year 8 is falling away, with less than 50% of children achieving the standard expected.

…..and what was one Chippie’s first decisions when he became Minister of Education? He notified us that he intended to scrap national standards by the beginning of the 2019 academic year.

Clearly, another minister with ability to think through the consequences of what he is doing.
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December 4, 2018 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s a link
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/377407/poor-science-results-for-primary-school-children
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:20am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Maggy, thanks. I heard it at 7.15 on RNZ too. Given my son has just finished year 5 at a rural school, I’m less than enthralled at what might be the case in the future unless we as parents don’t indulge in some nudge theory on our son.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:26am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Keep him reading (if he doesn’t like books… get graphic comics)
      talk to him lots,
      play chess with him,
      Teach him how to play billards/snooker/pool
      Make sure he can use all your tools,
      teach him how to pull an engine apart and rebuild it,
      make sure he can cook, and bake (and clean up)….
      Go tramping/hunting with him
      Give him a pet to care for
      
      He will learn enough doing stuff like the above to compensate for lousy teaching.
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:39am
      - Ross12
        
        Wonderful advice Maggy.
        
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        December 4, 2018 8:47am
      - Biscuit
        
        Great stuff, Maggy.
        
        Nothing there I’d disagree with … though I must admit I am clueless when it comes to engines.
        
        Is it too late to have you adopt me as a son, ha?
        (I’m pretty much toilet-trained these days!)
        
        Love the How to Cook bit, too.
        
        If I were running the Education mob, I’d be demanding that they have a core subject that you might call Civics; something anyway that teaches the kids who don’t have a wise soul like you as a Mum to:
        * Budget
        * Handle a bank account
        * Prepare (at least) five basic meals
        * Get a sexual education – not just the basic ‘gymnastics’ but also focussing on the relationship aspect
        
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        December 4, 2018 8:48am
      - MickMac
        
        Maggie great points.
        Scouts and Amry cadets fought us loads of stuff, gave us a sense of purpose, teamwork and camaraderie.
        Goal setting and planning as well as suck it up when you failed or lost and start again!
        
        Civics. at the dinner table and in the classroom.
        Why western liberal democracy is the best culture for kids, women and growing a society.
        Showing Lifetime learning, entrepreneurship and innovative thinking is the way to go.
        Teaching that Communism & Socialism doesn’t work in the real world.
        Attitude is everything but without common sense values you’ll be a bully.
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:14am
      - cmm
        
        Biscuit: “though I must admit I am clueless when it comes to engines.”
        
        The whole point of education is not to show kids canned knowledge, but to for them to learn how to learn.
        
        The best way to do that is to learn alongside your kids.
        
        To take the motor example, you could strip down an old buggered motor with the kids and look at how it works – learning together.
        
        If you want a motor you can often buy a stuffed lawnmower at a recycling shop for a few bucks.
        
        Better yet is to go to a lawnmower place etc where they often tear down motors for scrap metal. Just buy a motor from them or borrow one and promise to strip it down and bring it all back in a box.
        
        We homeschooled our kids. To me, the second best part of that was having an incentive to go find out about things I knew nothing about.
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:22am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        though I must admit I am clueless when it comes to engines.
        
        I just meant it as an example…
        
        alternatives:
        adjusting gears on a road bike
        fixing toilet valve/ leaking taps
        Fixing broken fuses
        
        My list really is only for background activities to help with poor science/maths teaching.
        
        If I had a youngster now, I’d be making sure they had some basic Chinese
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:25am
      - Biscuit
        
        Maggie, re Chinese, a tale for you from our trip to Shanghai, Xi’an and Beijing in 2014:
        
        Cute story time.
        
        We had a Western-style meal in our hotel here tonight.
        I was somewhat startled by the other customers.
        Not a foreigner amongst them.
        Most were upscale Chinese parents teaching their kids how to use knives and forks and how to eat Western food.
        ‘Ah, ah,’ tutted a father to his young (8? 9?) son. ‘Only use English words.’
        ‘Do I have to eat this?’ the boy pleaded, in perfect English.
        
        Start your kids on Mandarin lessons, people, and have them learn to use chopsticks.
        It’s going to be a competitive world they inherit!
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        Some pretty good ideas there that also could be incorporated into the science curriculum and living skills for later life.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:24am
      - Jules99
        
        Apologies to MickMac – I clicked report instead of reply. Hope you don’t get banned. ):
        I sent a message asking not to ban you!
        
        Was going to say that I learnt a lot of useful stuff at brownies that I didn’t learn at school. Hope they are still around.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:58am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Very true, and better still live in the rural parts of New Zealand if you can, where the lefty, sexual deviants have gotten a stronghold yet…
        
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        December 4, 2018 3:42pm
      - madamezucchininz
        
        …..love your comments Maggy….as a Nana to a five year old boy who spends a lot of time with us…..I have read to him since he was a baby….we play board games….he can add anything up due to this….we cook together….he knows the names of more plants in the garden than his mother does…..he loves books and is a total sponge…..He started school a month ago….he was disgusted with the book he was given to read….so I explained to him that it was about learning the words etc more than the story as this kid has a sophisticated palette when it comes to stories and ….he was happy with this explanation…..I on the other hand am not so happy with how he is being educated at school….1st hour is playing/noisy/free time….fifteen minutes to bring them into line….”carb snack” is next with a video of ABC’s…from an observation point of view….it seems to be a very lazy education system…..We know that we have to “fill” in the gaps….but the gaps are huge…..the teacher’s biggest effort…to me anyway….is concentrating on looking busy so she does not have to speak to any parent etc…..
        
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        December 4, 2018 3:57pm
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Add darts to the snooker etc. Can be played when space is at a premium and teaches maths from a practical angle.
      
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      December 4, 2018 9:25am
      - Happychappy
        
        Darts is the best way to start children learning maths, in the 1950’s we didn’t have Tv’s and their was 5 of us all a year apart in ages so the old man cut a tyre in half painted the inside white hung it on the wall and put a cheap dartboard inside it. We had loads of fun in the evenings and all of us were top of our class in maths at school. A lot of people don’t realise their is several games you can play on a dart board to keep children happy.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:34am
    - Longknives
      
      “Is it too late to have you adopt me as a son, ha?”
      
      Adopting is very ‘fashonable’ these days Biscuit!
      Maggy might be keen?
      
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3356084/I-ve-gone-child-Husband-father-seven-52-leaves-wife-kids-live-transgender-SIX-YEAR-OLD-girl-named-Stefonknee.html
      
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      December 4, 2018 9:53am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        If he comes with a decent chainsaw and can back a trailer, then there’s a room for him here (might have to share with the cats).
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:05am
sooty

Jethro has risen from the dead!
Labour be making the 1st Dec a public holiday.
New interview talking babys naps etc!
Labour must be starting to shit them selves.
Slease is stinking up the place, she hugged him closely and it’s rubbing of.
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December 4, 2018 8:11am
- Inandout
  
  Jethro was hugged closely to camouflage the powder marks.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:33am
- madamezucchininz
  
  ….would have been nice if he had paid homage to all the stay at home Mum’s and Dad’s without the big incomes….Nanny’s….and dare I say it lawnmowers…
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:12pm
secondcumming

There’s never been a lot I’ve heard or seen from Martyn Bradbury that I agree with…….but his reference to the *Greens* I can certainly relate to –

“Nothing turns voters off like the smug self righteous glitter beard top knot electric bike riding 4th wave feminist………seeing as they have now gone backwards 3 elections in a row, 2020 could be the end of them”

Onya’ Marty!
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December 4, 2018 8:12am
- cmm
  
  Marty’s a 4-ticks Labour kinda guy!
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:18am
- harvey wilson
  
  For all his faults Bradbury has not been shy about calling out the gunts in the most accurate , hilarious and excoriating ways.
  
  I’m beginning to wonder if he’s a double agent, lefties aren’t known for having a sense of humour .
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:19am
  - CHFR1
    
    Have to admit he is pretty sound on free speech as well. We live in interesting times and some of the most strident on the left are beginning to see where the future may lead and are not happy about it.
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:29am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Yep and he’s copped a lot of grief from the loser lefties like Muttonbird for it.
      
      Good on him , principles are so rare among the far left .
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:34am
- Harkman
  
  Thumbs up to that one ? Bradbury is still a jerk though.?
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:59am
dave_c_

I see COL is refusing to buy into the proposed National bill to make the wearing of life jackets compulsory for 15 year and under children.

Even though the proposer would let COL treat it as though it was their own bill.

We never thought about doing this, so no-way we will buy into any one else trying.

What absolute morons – Little wonder the public hold politicians (of all pursuasions) with such low esteem.
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December 4, 2018 8:13am
- VicParking
  
  Half of cabinet will need to walk around in life jackets. Remember it wont be long before you can put what ever age you want on your birth certificate so “Mental Age” will need to be used for all ‘Law’ matters. Adjust Birth date, leave school at 12 and go straight onto the Pension (I have Alzheimer’s). Straight from the couch to the Lazy Boy.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:24am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Well, the good news is most of the morons that don’t wear life jackets are probably Labour supporters….
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:44pm
Ross12

Looks like Macron has real problems ( he can stop telling others what to do and sort his own mess out).
Goes on a tour of the mess in Paris –the firemen turn their backs on him and front line police remove their helmets in support for the protesters.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/paris-crisis-police-remove-their-helmets-show-solidarity-with-protesters-macron-booed-by-yellow-jacket-protesters-video/

Now it is reported an 80 yr old woman has been killed by a tear gas grenade.
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December 4, 2018 8:15am
- Simon
  
  Fuel taxes to fight man made climate change fraud. Final straw.
  
  Fuel taxes here because of climate change fraud but they dont call it that.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:26am
- Jules99
  
  One European twitter I was following showed protests in Germany too – not seeing much in our media.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:04am
secondcumming

At least it wasn’t for smuggling Methamphetamine into the country…….

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1069655008847777792
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December 4, 2018 8:17am
oldpark

After watching and listening to Sullen Cullen on his “Rich Prick” proposed Capital Gain Tax.
Grubby Cullen just cant help himself on that one . A total bias from a has been or never was ratbag Lie-bour Finance Minister. Seems he has once more come out of the woodwork to complete the thing missing from his dubious CV.
Even worse he and his gang of Ner-do wells are also in favour of once more resurrecting the hated Inheritance Tax or to put it in proper perspective . The “Dead Granny Tax”.Of course complete denial will be in order. Yet Pinocchio will be will represented in the denial. After all a spade by any other name is still a spade. Or even sicko mad dog socialists this time led by Foxy Peters Party/ Commie Chic Comrade Ardern Party/ The Misandrist far left Lunatic Green Party.What a fughing future disaster for hard working NZs.
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December 4, 2018 8:20am
- Ross12
  
  oldpark
  I am beginning to wonder if the CGT issue is just diversion ( it is so stupid, will be so impractical to administer and costly to SMEs in particular) . He knows it will not fly but it takes the attention away from other tax issues he is pushing.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:34am
Paulus

I see that the Labour seat of Ohariu is up for grabs as Greg O’Connor (another one) is being given the deselection bums rush as he dared to comment against the dropping recent poll.
Ardern the top Bully and Simpson the Assistant Bully are suggesting ! he gets the DCM.
And they talk about Bullying – from what I hear if a recording could be released fro Arden’s Office the language is often very loud and rare.
She has one hell of a temper when she does not get her own way. Clark was sometimes bad but Ardern has left her for dead in the language stakes.
Wimmin – having been married for well over 50 years I will never understand why wimmen hate other wimmen particularly so much..
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December 4, 2018 8:23am
- sooty
  
  Oh dear, oh dear!! More trouble in the Labour camp!
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:33am
- Inandout
  
  Paulus, I always suspected Cindy was a gutter type, especially with the socialist background she comes from. The MSM shield her quite effectively, but those days when she spent much time on her knees will one day come back to haunt her. Look, if she had the Trump treatment from the media she would be long gone.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:41am
  - lifesgood
    
    No decent woman hangs out with a low life man and deliberately has a child to him. That sums her up really.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:03am
- Longknives
  
  I hear from a contact who moves in Ardern’s ‘circles’ that her tantrums are fucking legendary!
  What we see with the face pulling and stroppy behaviour in Parliament is just the tip of the iceberg apparently…
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:00am
  - howitis
    
    Now that’s ‘reality TV’ I would watch.
    For a little while.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:33am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    She looks malnourished. Probably a lot to do with any tantrums. Isn’t she on some strange idealistic diet?
    
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    December 4, 2018 1:25pm
- howitis
  
  I guess I’m just confused.
  Not gender confused.
  Well maybe!
  all this pushing of Wimenz to run things. Hallelujah.
  
  The intellectuals of the media tell us :
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99520326/more-women-in-top-jobs-would-give-an-881-million-boost-to-nz-report
  … A lack of women in management roles is costing the New Zealand economy hundreds of millions of dollars a year, a new report claims.
  The report, commissioned by Westpac and conducted by Deloitte, showed women held just 29 per cent of management roles in Kiwi businesses, despite making up 47 per cent of New Zealand’s workforce.
  It claims that by getting more women into leadership roles could boost the economy by $881 million. …
  
  Ok Then.
  Is this because the hospital bills, court proceeding, and counselling add to GDP?
  Oh, so that’s what GDP is. Gosh.
  The Christchurch earthquake also boosted NZs GDP.
  Bad things can cause increased economic activity.
  
  So which names come up recently with bullying in NZ.
  -Diane Maxwell
  -Maggie Barry
  -Mega Fightery
  -Princess Jacinda’s staff turnover
  All women
  Huh!
  
  This fits in nicely with the massive amount of stories coming out of female school teachers shagging pupils -and at least in the US they prosecute; UK giving sentences about one third to a quarter of what men get- NZ…. Sweet FA.
  ..or MeToo agitator Asia Argento being the actual predator of an under-aged bloke. The list is long.
  
  I hate the smell of misandry in the morning…or anytime of the day.
  However it is starting to linger like tear gas in Paris.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:31am
KevOB

Academic interferes in NZ USA-China relations

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/new-zealand-particularly-vulnerable-china-us-report
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December 4, 2018 8:25am
dave_c_

It has just occured to me (or at least the penny has dropped) that a large percentage of the so called ‘experts’ wheeled in to the discussion (TV3 AM show) have no ring/s on their left hand wedding finger.
I guess this explains how little these people know about real life – It’s all theoretical claptrap most of the time for them – No life experience where it counts perhaps?
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December 4, 2018 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  But But Cindy has not been married and she is wise in all things. “If you switch the camera’s a bit to the right you can see Neve. You can also see the first Father as well, lining up the baby powder to put on Neve’s cute booty”
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:33am
  - holysheet
    
    “Baby powder?”
    Is that the new term for lawnmowers?
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:47am
- sooty
  
  They will all run down to the $2 shop, to gaine credability.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:36am
- howitis
  
  I see on the Garner show it is at least 3 weeks since ‘ruby lips’ Gillies was there.
  
  This is odd in that the show will close down in mid December for 5+ weeks or so, so she surely should not be having weeks of leave now.
  The woman on this morning was excellent and the one on last week was very good.
  
  One has to wonder if old ruby lips has had a nut-out.
  She is massively uptight and supercilious but after sitting next to Mark Richardson for nearly 2 years she has probably realised how totally and utterly she has screwed up her life.
  She seems to be only about 3 years younger than Richardson but goes on about Women can do this or that. Blah blah. Women’s lib. Yay.
  Things that Richardson has that ruby lips Gillies does not:
  A House in St Heliers, rental properties, several TV shows; spouse, children, plays golf etc.
  Basically, has a life, a successful and full one.
  
  Cat-lady-in-training Gillies goes on about how important women are but sitting alongside that and years of free hairdos and decent salary for years she has achieved nothing, nada, not a sausage.
  She is one of the types you meet in Auckland who are like this. Usually from Hawkes Bay or Waikato and go ‘home’ frequently. Still renting, with or without flatmates.
  Her failure in almost everything must grate and she has to sit next to a ‘right wing white male’ who has achieved lots. She would have avoided these people in the past and prattled on to her mates at a cafe over smashed avo how these ‘white breads’ don’t really enjoy life.
  
  Does anyone know if she has crossed the line and gone completely nuts?
  I have no sympathy if she has. She is nasty, smarmy, supercilious, and has nothing to back that up.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:49am
KevOB

Tidbit: Legal note UK govt re Brexit–full document leaked.

http://2mbg6fgb1kl380gtk22pbxgw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Withdrawal-Agreement-Legal-and-Governance-Aspects.pdf

Has the integrity of the UK been preserved?
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December 4, 2018 8:29am
- Ross12
  
  Answer to your question Kev –definite no.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:36am
- MickMac
  
  err No.
  But with May it never was.
  That is not what people voted for.
  Conservatives like National don’t listen……
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:18am
- Ross12
  
  Kev
  This is worth reading. It looks like May wants to effectively lock the UK into the EU. So she “leaving” , agreeing to pay billions, agreeing to have no say on new EU laws etc. and agreeing to a position which makes it very difficult to get totally away from the EU. ( Most people would call that a surrender deal)
  https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/03/attorney-general-admits-britain-cannot-end-brexit-deal-unilaterally/
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:52pm
  - KevOB
    
    The Tidbit above at 8:29 is supposed to be a leak of the legal advice given to PM May.
    
    I saw what Brussels did to Somerset not allowing waterways to be cleaned. Their uncommon law would have made Churchill ropeable. Thankfully I don’t have to work on this. I can’t say May’s wrong either. Losing working relationships could be economically very expensive. Some compromises may be justified.
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:39pm
srylands

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/poor-science-results-new-zealand-primary-school-children

This is very concerning. A poor understanding of science means that people swallow snake oil from politicians who promise a hydrogen economy and an easy transition to a future energy system.

And it is not just science where kids are going backward. Fixing this decline should be the highest education priority. Yet today I predict we will hear nothing.
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December 4, 2018 8:29am
- VicParking
  
  Why do you need Science. Alexia, Cortana, Siri and Google Assistant Know it all. “Hey Siri, What does Trivial mean”
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:37am
- Muttonbird
  
  One wonders who has been in charge in recent years.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:36am
  - srylands
    
    The teachers unions.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:53am
    - Muttonbird
      
      Teachers unions don’t make policy. Governments do.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:24am
      - srylands
        
        Governments do not teach children. Teachers do. And the teacher unions are the most ardent opponents of change.
        
        If you want kids to do better at science, prioritise it over kite making. Review teaching methods. Most importantly, identify top science teachers, pay them more, including whatever it takes to get them into struggling schools.
        
        But you can’t do that because suggesting that some teachers are better than others isn’t “fair”.
        
        No government will be able to address these issues without radical change. So for you to infer it was John Key again is off the mark. It is is systemic. And the teacher unions are the barrier to change.
        
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        December 4, 2018 1:31pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      If Muttonbird’s point is that National also went too far down the PC path, I would unfortunately have to agree.
      
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      December 4, 2018 1:31pm
- KevOB
  
  Would two-pies explode if filled up with H2?
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:40pm
secondcumming

One of the guys at the gun club just got back from a weeks holiday in Thailand.
He was telling us how he very nearly had sex with a high-class ladyboy.
She was absolutely beautiful. Spoke like a lady, looked like a lady, smelt like a lady, walked like a lady, talked like a lady.
It was only when she drove him back to her place and reversed her car into the parking spot 1st time that he thought….hang on a minute.
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December 4, 2018 8:39am
- Woz
  
  I was on holiday in Bangkok a while back, riding the sky train, and there was this super hot chick sitting opposite me. We were giving each other the eye, and she was licking her lips, and sitting there in my loose shorts I was thinking “don’t get an erection, don’t get an erection, don’t get an erection!” Nek minnit, she did.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:04am
  - Biscuit
    
    The saddest sound you’ll ever hear:
    
    A sex tourist fleeing out of a Thai brothel yelling ‘It’s a Boy! It’s a B O Y !’
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:16pm
wreck1080

Jacinda is like a cop investigating her own crimes.

She whacks new taxes on petrol, then starts a year long inquiry to find out why the petrol price is so high.

This is what she will find….

The international price of oil (outside our control), the exchange rate, and government taxes determine 90% of the cost of petrol…..the other 10%, is the cost of distribution and some profit for those in the industry.

So, no need for another commission of inquiry.

She is so full of herself!
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December 4, 2018 8:40am
- MickMac
  
  Jacinda Adhern is a Liar
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:19am
- thedavincimode
  
  Heh, like the bullying inquiry.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:20am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Just like OJ Simpson, she won’t rest until she finds the real culprit.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:24am
DigNap15

I’d like her to do an enquiry into why wholesale and retail markups are so hig in NZ.

And why companies such as Briscoes can get away with 60% off every four weeks after adding a 120% markup.
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December 4, 2018 8:46am
- Inandout
  
  I noticed last week loaves of Vogels bread at New World were $5.49. This week they were on special at $3,99, but the docket said reduced from$4.68. Must be confusing for the weekly shopper.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:52am
  - lifesgood
    
    I have a huge gripe about Vogels. They sold the company and whoever owns it now claims the recipe is the same as it always was. Do they think we are stupid? It most certainly is not and it’s nowhere near as good as it used to be.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:08am
  - dave_c_
    
    ‘Confusing’ – Deliberately so – No way rules about pricing and sales pricing are effectively policed.
    Briscoes is the classic example – has been for many a year.
    Btw – I cannot understand how most supermarket prices for the same product, fluctuate multiple times in a week, every week.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:19am
    - KevOB
      
      There appears to be understanding with suppliers: for laundry powder brands the special rotated around weekly.
      With retailing the price is what you can get. A “special” is often the regular market price. Customers have expectations as to what is the “right” price like $7.99kg cheese. Too low, it is perceived as defective lower quality and too high, not worth buying.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:31am
    - Komata
      
      dave_c_c
      
      Re: ‘Btw – I cannot understand how most supermarket prices for the same product, fluctuate multiple times in a week, every week’.
      
      It’s an interesting phenomenon and seems very prevelant in the smaller towns, to the extent that I have come to the conclusion that there is in effect a ‘cartel-type’ arrangement in place, in much the same way that the oil companies play ‘it’s your turn next’ with their prices.
      
      I do the family shopping on a regular basis and observation indicates that the supermarkets raise and lower their prices in rotation and in agreement with each other. As an example, a packet of ‘X’ priced at ‘Z’ in Supermarket ‘A’ this week will have its price raised to ‘Y’ next week, while ‘Coincidentally’ Supermarket ‘B’, which had the same item marked at ‘Y’ this week, reduces it back to ‘Z’ at the same time.
      
      Colusion?? of course not, merely ‘Market forces’ at work.
      
      It’s interesting to watch and becomes quite predictable.
      
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      December 4, 2018 1:04pm
- noskire
  
  Companies “pay” Foodstuffs and Progressive for their product(s) to be included in the weekly mailer or in-store specials, i.e. whatever the discount is.
  Having said that, the profit margin in supermarkets is extremely low (unless you own the Four Square in Tekapo).
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:12am
- wreck1080
  
  Ha ha yeah, sales are the normal price for me.
  
  When I was in the UK last, I was buying a suitcase and it had a big discount and I queried them as to if it really was on sale.
  
  The retail assistant spouted some rules and regulations about when you could say something is on sale. Sounded more rigorous than here . Although , I still suspected this thing was always on sale.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:26am
  - Jules99
    
    It is stricter and also people are more likely to complain than we do in NZ.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:14am
- Jules99
  
  I remember when I moved to the UK for my OE being very disappointed at how poor the sales were – only 20% off!!! Of course, the every day price was lower.
  
  I don’t mind Briscoes so much, if you see something you like you know you can go back later and get it cheaper. I saw a fake plant I liked for $60 and thought no way. Two weeks later it was $20 which is still a big profit for them on a plastic plant.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:12am
Yvette

Will a Capital Gains Tax including “small businesses” also, by that definition, include “self employed”?
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December 4, 2018 8:49am
- MickMac
  
  Yes.
  All Tradies and professionals too.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:20am
  - wreck1080
    
    Many small businesses have no value. The value is the person running it, if they quit, there is no business.
    
    You can’t sell such businesses…probably the most valuable thing out of such businesses might be a client list.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:28am
    - Paulus
      
      Then the IRD will give the business a valuation and tell you to prove otherwise.
      Indirectly have been there.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:10am
    - Jules99
      
      On those sort of businesses you sell training or materials separately.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:17am
DigNap15

Here is the start of my new list
Its email contacts fro the media

The Herald
Jamie Morton science
jamie.morton@nzherald.co.nz
Stuff
Susan Edmunds – personal finance and property
susan.edmunds@stuff.co.nz
Newstalk ZB
Barry Soper – political editor
barrys@newstalkzb.co.nz

If you can add any please do so.
I’d particularly like the editor of the Herald and Stuff and the news editors of TVNZ and TV3.
These days most companies do not make it easy to get contact email addresses.

This was we can bombard them with emails regarding their extreme left wing bias.
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December 4, 2018 8:50am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  “..their extreme left-wing bias”
  
  ???
  
  And what is extreme right-wing bias?
  
  Leighton Smith, Redbaiter and you?
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:39am
  - DigNap15
    
    So how would you describe the above named medias political leanings?
    
    Personally as I said I’d just like all the media to be balanced.
    Or if that is not possible there should be one or two extreme right wing to balance the extreme left wing ones we have now.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:50am
Inandout

I will just mention Geoff Murphy has died, presumably a great director.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/109064641/new-zealand-film-pioneer-geoff-murphy-dies

He has spent some time in Hollywood so I will hold back on commenting further until he has been officially ‘de-groped’. I have been caught out before with praising Kevin Spacey’s talent, and then finding out he was a creep.
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December 4, 2018 8:59am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes he was a great kiwi who made some great movies and helped put NZ on the map.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:01am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Talent is not the same as being an arsehole though. Nobody can deny that Spacey can act. Most just never want to see him again, knowing what we now know.
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:37pm
Harkman

Hayley Holt just said “the government is cracking down on immigration.” Population growth is at 2.3%.
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December 4, 2018 9:01am
- dave_c_
  
  Before this lot are finished, Black will be White, War will be peace. . . .
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:23am
- Prince
  
  STOP LISTENING TO HER.
  Fixed.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:04am
- KevOB
  
  That 2.3% growth is not our natural increase but a superfluity of mostly ill fitting strangers. Great breeding program the COL has.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:37am
BeaB

Jesse (aptly named) Mulligan has shown himself to be as petty and vacuous as he sounds on the radio. His ignorance is astounding – my favourite of many was his pronouncing Roxburgh Roxberg, like iceberg.
It amazes me Radio NZ keep him on. I can’t comment on his TV3 appearances as I can’t bear to watch that juvenile luvvie echo chamber.
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December 4, 2018 9:08am
- lifesgood
  
  To call someone a Jessie in North England is to say they are a great big dumb Sissy. Seems apt.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:11am
- igm
  
  He is a leeching little wimp, just like his mate Campbell. These types, like the rest of State media, are scum.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:15am
- stephieboy
  
  BeaB,
  
  “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency, a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall…”
  
  Ralph Waldo Emerson
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:35am
  - BeaB
    
    “People only see what they are prepared to see.”
    Ralph Waldo Emerson
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:42am
- Morrissey
  
  We’ve been charting this dismal ignoramus for some considerable time….
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/more-evidence-of-jesse-mulligans.html
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Morrissey, as if Jesse Mulligan actually cares.
    
    Yawn!
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:41am
    - Morrissey
      
      Fuck off. Isn’t there a goat grazing by the roadside in Mt. Albert somewhere that you could chat up?
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:16am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Love seeing the two biggest fuckwits on this site going at each other.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:28am
      - secondcumming
        
        Funnily enuff, my mother-in-law was saying she knows Morrissey, has done for some time.
        
        She describes him as “…..someone who should be Breen but not heard”
        
        BOL!!
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:54am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Morrisey now that we debunked all the myths you believed about Assange yesterday will you add him to your list of gropers?
    
    It would look incredibly hypocritical otherwise , particularly given you have the likes of Geoffrey Rush there and there’s been no complaints to the police about him.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:07am
  - Garbageman
    
    We’ve been charting this dismal ignoramus for some considerable time….
    
    https://morrisseybreen
    
    dont you think thats where that link should have stopped, makes a lot more sense to me
    
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    December 4, 2018 1:07pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I had never imagined that there could be someone on RNZ more boring, more bland, and more lacking in General Knowledge than Jim Mora.
  I was wrong.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:39am
  - lifesgood
    
    Jim Mora’s afternoon Panel is vomit inducing. It is packed with rabid lefties who all feel lovely and secure in their ignorant little bubble chamber. There is no attempt at any sort of balance or objectivity. I stopped listening long ago. Correct me if I’m wrong but I bet it hasn’t changed.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I thought David Farrar was on the Panel sometimes… but like you…I stopped listening long ago.
      
      (My lovely leftie neighbour listens to it…and tells me stuff she’s heard…((she was Lisa Owen’s debating teacher)).
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:11am
    - Morrissey
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Correct me if I’m wrong…
      
      You are wrong. Utterly wrong. Mora is a complacent right wing shit who finds the suffering of political dissenters a matter for hilarity, and who allows the most outrageous comments by right wing ghouls, while quickly jumping on anything remotely resembling left wing or progressive comments.
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/wimp-walloping.html
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/chris-trotter-reckons-zimmerman-jury.html
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/graham-bell-continues-to-run-amok-on.html
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:22am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Morrisey , did you see my post? I’m looking forward to your latest edition of groper featuring Assange.
        
        Btw one of his victims had been forced into hiding because of threats from people who were misinformed like you were up until yesterday.
        https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/julian-assange-sex-assault-accuser-speaks-10445612
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:33am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        There he goes again. Abusing DPF’s hospitality by link-whoring to his own site which nobody visits.
        
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        December 4, 2018 1:28pm
    - Paulus
      
      And the screeching womiin following Mora’s panel after the 5 pm news is worse.
      I have auto turn off after the news.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:13am
    - artemisia
      
      They do have the occasional different POV, eg DPF and Stephen Franks. I used to amuse myself in a masochistic sort of way by playing #notmypresident bingo on The Panel segment. Rarely disappointed, at least one, often both panellists.
      
      Got tired of that, stopped listening.
      
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      December 4, 2018 1:17pm
  - cmm
    
    One thing I have noticed is that RNZ are increasingly hiring people with speech impediments.
    
    The worst is the woman who sometimes reads the news in the afternoons.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:42am
MCos

I was just thinking how good that Māori guy looked as Santa down at Nelson.
Next minute.
Tremendous electrical storm over Mangere Bridge with lightening bolts striking mere metres away from our humble abode.
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December 4, 2018 9:14am
- dave_c_
  
  That’ll teach ya !
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:25am
Burg

Article in Herald today about a woman in Whanganui being evicted so landlord can renovate the house.

Smart move with the threat of a capital gains tax on the horizon.He can claim the renovations as a tax expense and maximise the property valuation, thus minimizing future capital gains tax..

If the capital gains tax ever does go ahead it would be interesting to see how widespread this became thus spiking rental demand.
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  The landlord should have to provide alternative accomodation for her while the renovations are being done after which she moves back in.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:40am
  - The Heat
    
    Sure thing, Mutton.
    
    That is obviously an additional cost. Landlords would have to factor that into….
    
    Wait for it…..
    
    Rent.
    
    Sure you want this service from landlords?
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:55am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Muttonbird has not and will not ever own a house. He projects his self loathing and envy outwards towards all home owners .
      
      Well some of it , he’s a bottomless well of venom for anyone who doesn’t suck at life like he does.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:14am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Still following me around like an obedient lapdog. How many times have you mentioned me on this thread alone? You can barely make a comment without referencing me. What is with the obsession?
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:23am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Muttonbird tastes yummy, I understand. Lots of fat.
        
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        December 4, 2018 1:44pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Sure the rent will be higher after renovations – it’s better more and comfortable than it was. The rent rise should be put in front of the tenant before the renovations and if she agrees then the landlord should put her up while the renovations take place. If she doesn’t agree then she vacates. She should be given the option though.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:21am
      - The Heat
        
        No, Mutton. The rent will increase from day one before renovations to cover the cost of rehoming. The rent will ALSO increase after renovations to reflect the cost of same.
        
        Don’t you understand what a cost is, and how rent is determined?
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:04am
      - Muttonbird
        
        The issue here is continuation and security of tenancy. Insecurity of tenancy is one of the policy areas the government is looking at because it recognises that forced movement of people, especially those with families id detrimental to community health and to society as a whole.
        
        Rent rises are inevitable with inflation – tenants recognise this. They also recognise a nicer place when they see one and one that the landlord cares about. How do you expect a tenant to care for a place the landlord doesn’t?
        
        But to this case, if the woman wanted to continue in the house once renovated then she’d continue paying rent or a proportion of it while housed somewhere else as the renovations were carried out.
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:24am
      - The Heat
        
        I agree that security of tenancy is an issue, and acknowledge the disruption it can cause.
        
        I used to be a landlord, until recently. And a tenant, long ago. There are two sides, obviously.
        
        There is a cost to a landlord being stuck with tenants. What if they want to sell? What if they have (unspoken) issues with the tenant? What if they want to test the market for rent? You could legislate all this out, but the cost remains. Ultimately, the tenant pays it. And what if the tenant can’t?
        
        Ultimately, I think the problem is rooted much deeper. It’s in the states control over land supply side, forcing up the price. Reduce the cost of housing by making it plentiful and the problem goes away i.e. landlords will fight for tenants.
        
        The tricky bit is how you now increase supply and not annoy existing owners who have their lifesavings tied up in overpriced houses – the result of decades of state incompetence, driven by the smart growth planning lobby, anti-roaders and environmentalists?
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:45am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Yep. Poor immigration management and even worse infrastructure investment have contributed to a shortage of supply there’s no doubt about that.
        
        The land is there but you can’t just build houses without a way to get those people to work. This is what holds up the supply of land, not because authorities ‘just don’t want to’.
        
        Existing homeowners should be in it for the long haul and can’t throw their toys because of a flatlining after having enjoyed unsustainable rises.
        
        And there must be a shift away from amateur landlordism toward a professional model – this is what the proposed changes are trying to effect. The rental stock is in such poor condition in this country because of amateur landlordism and a reluctance to reinvest which is odd given the huge capital gains realised in recent years. If I were being cynical I’d say landlords just don’t think tenants deserve it.
        
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        December 4, 2018 12:00pm
      - The Heat
        
        Yes, infrastructure and immigration. I think it’s mainly state incompetence.
        
        For example, Wellington. Wellington could create two centres. They could relocate government departments out to Porirua. Next to the station and motorway. Build a state hub of high rises there. The private sector can’t do this, but government could.
        
        Congestion relieved. Housing pressure relieved.
        
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        December 4, 2018 12:28pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Also, the rent rise should reflect the increase in value of the property as a proportion of the whole, not some arbitrary number.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:28am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Muttonbird have you said that you want anyone else murdered?
        
        The level of moderation on the standard is appalling to let you get away with saying that. I shudder to think what got you banned there the first time.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:35am
      - Muttonbird
        
        It was for saying a commenter wasn’t being sincere in his sympathy for the man who set himself on fire outside parliament a year or two ago.
        
        That’s a pretty high level of moderation.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:41am
      - harvey wilson
        
        So you have talked about wanting to see other people murdered? I was referring to you saying you want to see Cameron Slater killed.
        
        I don’t see how you can post stuff like that and say the moderation is good. To want to see other people killed is abhorrent, you are ill my friend.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:50am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Got a soft spot for Slater, eh? That’ll be you and his mother alone on this earth.
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:04am
      - harvey wilson
        
        No I think you and Slater are two sides of the same coin, both hateful reprehensible people.
        
        I don’t wish death on other one of you though.
        
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        December 4, 2018 11:13am
  - RalphT
    
    Quite right. I mean, it’s not as though it was the landlord’s property. He needs to remember he has an obligation to provide her with a home for life.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:58am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Left wing loon in not respecting property rights shock .
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:20am
      - Muttonbird
        
        Well, property rights do change under different governments – that’s what law makers do, idiot.
        
        Looks like there might be some law changes around this. They’ll be typically mild and centrist but at least tenant rights are getting more attention. It really is better for society as a whole.
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:31am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Hahahaha property rights change under different governments!
        
        Oh dear . Nationalise everything, let’s do this!
        
        Perhaps is you had experienced some success in life you’d sympathise with people who work hard to get ahead?
        
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        December 4, 2018 10:38am
- artemisia
  
  Quite likely the house is being tidied up for sale. Lots of rentals coming onto the market. Anecdotes only but have clients with rentals selling up, and know others. Trademe is reporting a lift in for sale places. 23% up in Auckland over same month a year ago.
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:27pm
Poppa

I am so pleased NIWA predicted a hot November & December I am enjoying it so much

What I didn’t realise was that hot & sunny is in fact wet.

NIWA & Metservice need to be done away with, they are a complete waste of our money
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December 4, 2018 9:41am
- stephieboy
  
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  Poppa, summer propper doesn’t usually kick in until Christmas and after as it did last year if my memory serves me correctly!
  
  But hey the facts are we a living in the world of climate change that features often extreme weather events.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:47am
  - Poppa
    
    Thank you Steph for bringing me up to speed.
    
    Yeah I wish that predicted climate change would hurry up & get here I am sick of waiting
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:05am
  - realityczech
    
    The only unusual thing about the weather has been a drop in temperatures for the last 2 years stupidboy.
    
    The ~~social engineers~~ weathermen did not predict that, or the static temperature for the 10 years previously.
    
    Maybe they should drag themselves away from their computer games and go outside for a look.
    
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    December 4, 2018 5:40pm
- Komata
  
  Poppa
  
  You might find this of interest:
  
  It seems appropriate
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD9SwKpMgew
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:15pm
DigNap15

Yes the amount of times Met Service get the next days weather wrong is astounding.
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December 4, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15, we should get you and MW take over with your collection of entrails.
  
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  December 4, 2018 9:48am
- Classic Liberal
  
  The number of times they say it will be rainy and I plan around that – but then barely a drop falls. Are they just trying to cover their butts?
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:50pm
DigNap15

I went downtown Tauranga the other day.
Berlin after the war looked much better.
Its a complete mess and there is no parking.

They really need to bulldoze the whole area and reduce the number of streets and make them wider.
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December 4, 2018 9:52am
MH

I propose coastwatchers on both coasts up and down NZ, they can live in towers esp on headlands or islands, with cameras manually pointing out west and east and to the sky-nothing remotely controlled. No reports at night, I’d ban that.Then I’d have a bunch of people with raincoats and sun umbrellas sited on top of tall buildings in the main towns. Put all the info on the internet and let the people decide what the weather could be for that day at that specific time-no fore casting, I’d ban that too.
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December 4, 2018 10:04am
- lifesgood
  
  The best forecaster ever was Jennifer Weather Centre on BFM. She used to look out the window and tell it like it is. She was always right.
  
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  December 4, 2018 5:32pm
Woz

The Horrid is busy reinforcing the KB consensus opinion on the modern media by running this drivel:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12170239

Maybe I should be more compassionate, there but for the grace of God go I and all that, but I just feel dead when I read these stories.
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December 4, 2018 10:07am
- Longknives
  
  Woz- The scary thing is that there are plenty of people out there who will read that and think ‘OMG they are stealing her home away from her’ and ‘Jacinda do something!!’
  Lefties don’t think like you and I…
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:16am
- Rich Prick
  
  I was looking for the obligatory health issues and …
  
  Four of Walsh’s children have health issues. Two have heart problems, one suffers from seizures and tourettes and her youngest, Jaxs, has global development delay.
  
  Bingo. BTW, what the fuck is “global development delay”? Being a bit globally slow?
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:35am
  - Jules99
    
    It’s a nice way of saying ‘low IQ’ which is not allowed today cos we are all the same, but he’s just a bit slow catching up see.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:22am
    - Rich Prick
      
      … oh, plain old retarded. Why would her mother put that “out there” for a bit of sympathy? That girl will use google one day.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:26am
  - Garbageman
    
    Poor damn kids which we will all be paying vast amounts of money for in the future, 6 kids multiple pets i could say something nasty but she has been a tenant for 10yrs in the one home so probably a decent person, but hell if you think having all those kids and not owning your own house isn’t going to give you major complications in life you probably shouldn’t be breeding at all, of course no mention of any thank yous to us long suffering fools that pay for this lot and their dysfunctional lives
    
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    December 4, 2018 1:21pm
  - Nermal
    
    And yet she kept breeding …..
    
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    December 4, 2018 1:31pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  This poor woman.
  – Has children with health problems, and still continues to have more.
  – Scarce resources, yet has pets.
  
  So many bad decisions creating ever-greater needs, once after another.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:52am
  - Woz
    
    MUST have a four-bedroom home. Well, back in the 70s we were a four-kid family that lived in a two-bedroom house for a while. Dad worked, Mum stayed at home, and we four were stacked into bunks in the one bedroom. I don’t recall feeling deprived. We were well provided with good food, sufficient clothing, warm beds and, most importantly, love.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:09pm
    - Garbageman
      
      We had a blended family of 12 in a 4 bedroom house when the old man karked it when i was 10 and mum married a pole smoking alcoholic with his own tribe, 2 sets of double bunks in two rooms didn’t kill us we were poor as fk and miserable as both families mostly hated each other but we coped and did the best we could and yet these days bloody prisoners get better accommodation and still moan like the leeching entitled assholes they are if bunking is discussed
      
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      December 4, 2018 1:28pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  “there but for the grace of God go I ”
  
  No. You are probably intelligent enough to use contraception and only have as many kids as you can afford to look after.
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:53pm
  - Woz
    
    Thank you, Classic Liberal, and quite true, but I guess I meant that there is always a chance of extreme misfortune unraveling your life and throwing you on the scrapheap. I suppose though, were it to happen to me and mine, we’d get on with it, be grateful for any assistance rendered, and not show up in the media carping on about our lot in life.
    
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    December 4, 2018 6:37pm
tf78

I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it here but there is supposed to be a rally against the UN Migration Pact starting 1pm Aotea Square on Saturday.
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December 4, 2018 10:09am
- Muttonbird
  
  You can hold up your ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ sign.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:33am
  - Tall Man
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJeNQM_t-E&feature=youtu.be
    
    Don’t they look great?
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:25pm
    - realityczech
      
      Slick vid. And I’m no fan of Simon.
      
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      December 4, 2018 6:57pm
  - realityczech
    
    Come along with your “Impeach Trump” sign Muttonbird.
    
    Don’t forget your black balaclava and baton.
    
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    December 4, 2018 6:59pm
- Longknives
  
  Dumb idea.
  Only a handful will turn up and Golriz and Marama will be there screaming and shouting them down.
  The Media will breathlessly report this as a ‘win’ for the Left and the signing of the Pact will be full steam ahead…
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:41am
  - Woz
    
    Challenge for today: go along and see if you can goad Marama into calling you a cunt.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:10pm
Prince

All these comments about media bias, which I agree with. But really the answer is in our hands.
If we stopped subscribing, listening, viewing, then their income, either through subs or advertising would take a hit. Questions might be asked, columnists let go, balance sought.
So. Ring now and cancel newspaper subs. Take a walk at 6pm. Turn off Morning Report.
You’ll feel a lot better about life and you might just cause a rethink, or at least limit the income of those who want to preach their philosophies at you.
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December 4, 2018 10:11am
- Tall Man
  
  Been there done that but a wee dram is must more satisfying than a walk….
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:24pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Sound advice. I don’t watch TV. I don’t read the Herald/ I glance over stuff, but take nothing too seriously. I read the BBC, Fox, the UK Guardian (it’s well written, even if a bit left), occasionally Al Jazeera and Breitbart. I listen to Hoskin, and Larry Williams. But my first point of reference for what’s going on in the world is Kiwiblog, the important stuff gets referenced here soon enough. Its also a good barometer of Lefty Stress. The more posts by these fucktards, the worse things must be for them…..
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like Jacinda is stuck in Auckland…
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/12/lightning-strikes-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-stranded-at-auckland-airport.html
She was meant to be flying to Wellington to meet S.Korean PM
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December 4, 2018 10:18am
- Longknives
  
  Her Unicorn (that shoots rainbows out it’s arse) not available?
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:21am
  - Poppa
    
    Oh well it wouldn’t be the first leader she has stood up would it
    
    Remember the oil & gas petition?
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:08am
- noskire
  
  Yet Gaylorde soldiers on and mows the lawns.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:29am
- cmm
  
  I hope the choir was on speed dial to come sing her some songs.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:41am
  - noskire
    
    Or she could sit on the Maori Santa’s lap and talk about the first thing that pops up.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:44am
- Woz
  
  Where’s Air Force One when you really need it?
  
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  December 4, 2018 12:03pm
- MT_Tinman
  
  South Korean President Moon Jae-in has a good day.
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:24pm
rangitoto

Bridges says Nats will pull NZ out of UN immigration compact if CoL sign up to it.
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December 4, 2018 10:36am
- Muttonbird
  
  He’s quite reactionary, isn’t he?
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:37am
  - rangitoto
    
    Muttonbird = Turkey voting for Christmas.
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:39am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Muttonbird wants women to be treated the way they are by entitled fake refugee men in Germany.
      
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      December 4, 2018 1:59pm
  - Jack5
    
    Look into the minds of the voters, Muttonhead! You will see: Bridges and National will save us from the United Nations hordes of billions of border crashers!
    
    Not even the Baybee and Clarke will save Jacinderella now.
    
    The only thing that will get Jacinderella re-elected will be to bang out quadruplets a month before next election day and for Clarke to star as Super Dad, the world champion nappy juggler.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:54am
  - Tall Man
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJeNQM_t-E&feature=youtu.be
    
    The future is now looking brighter….
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:20pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And not an umm or an ahhh in hearing.
    
    I guess he is just smarter than ardern the liar.
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:22pm
- KevOB
  
  Climate change nonsense too. Let the IPCC report be justified in Court with unfettered scientific witnesses. It would be demolished by the mathematicians alone.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:47am
- DigNap15
  
  Link please – I hope you are right.
  I think that will be a vote winner for National
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:57am
  - rangitoto
    
    https://twitter.com/simonjbridges/status/1069694372084559873
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:35am
- septic skeptic
  
  Good. He needs to let us know where he stands.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:13am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    He has, and quite emphatically. National opposes the UN compact, and if the current government signs us up to it, the next National-led government will withdraw from it.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:26pm
    - Toko
      
      How will NZ First support this agreement? With Nats opposing it, it has brought it to public attention. Now Winnie has to appear to oppose it, while the other two COL parties will be rabid supporters. Won’t go down well with NZ First voters who are already grumpy over a few things. This move by Bridges should help the Nats in the polls. Bye bye Winnie, you two faced lying shit!
      
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      December 4, 2018 12:51pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Yep. National’s opposition to the UN Compact, and its promise to withdraw New Zealand in the future drives a wedge between NZF and the Labour/Green bloc. It’s smart politics from Bridges to sow the seeds of division in the government’s ranks.
        
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        December 4, 2018 1:11pm
  - rangitoto
    
    The loony left were squawking from the rafters over the TPPA eroding their sovrunty until it became CoL policy. Now we have an actual removal of sovereignty and not the slightest peep out of them.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:59pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Same way they support islamism despite it being as misogynist and homophobic as possible. Because…um…no, I still can’t work out why. Something to do with ‘some islamists have a bit more melanin, so we must support them’, I think…
      
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      December 4, 2018 2:10pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I like the way he’s just working on, ignoring the polls against him, focusing on National’s policies instead of being a poser like Taxinda.
    
    This is how National will win.
    
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    December 4, 2018 2:07pm
- lifesgood
  
  Good man, that man.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:30am
KevinH

Yesterday, internationally respected naturalist Sir David Attenborough warned that “the collapse of civilisation is on the horizon” in his speech to delegates at the UN climate change summit in Katowize, Poland.

As part of the UN’s people’s seat initiative, messages were gathered from all over the world to inform Attenborough’s address on Monday. “Right now we are facing a manmade disaster of global scale, our greatest threat in thousands of years: climate change,” he said. “If we don’t take action, the collapse of our civilisations and the extinction of much of the natural world is on the horizon.”
Attenborough said: “The world’s people have spoken. Time is running out. They want you, the decision-makers, to act now. Leaders of the world, you must lead. The continuation of civilisations and the natural world upon which we depend is in your hands.”
The COP24 summit was also addressed by António Guterres, the UN secretary general. “Climate change is running faster than we are and we must catch up sooner rather than later before it is too late,” he said. “For many, people, regions and even countries this is already a matter of life or death.”

Guterres said the two-week summit was the most important since Paris and that it must deliver firm funding commitments. “We have a collective responsibility to invest in averting global climate chaos,” he said.

For world leaders attending the summit, this dialogue will inspire them to respond more urgently to the promises made at the 2015 Paris summit.

Meanwhile, in contrast to the summit, French President Emmanuel Macron faces a crisis in his leadership with widespread violent protests on the streets of Paris following Macrons recent fuel tax hikes to reduce Frances dependence on fossil fuels.
Heads of state attending the Polish COP24 Summit will have cause to reflect on the measures that France has taken to reduce fossil fuel consumption and how those same measures may impact in their own countries.
In France, the protest movement — known as gilets jaunes, French for the “yellow vests” demonstrators wear — has blockaded streets and highways, burned cars, and skirmished with police in response to the price hike. In recent days, protesters seem to be directing their anger at the state of France’s economy as well.
In effect, the protests are turning into a large-scale rebuke to Macron’s leadership — and it’s unclear if he’ll survive it.
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December 4, 2018 10:58am
- lifesgood
  
  Poor old Attenborough, going senile in his old age.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:31am
secondcumming

BREAKING….

Yet another large building company goes bust, *Corbel Construction*

……this is getting fucking serious!

Just saying.
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December 4, 2018 11:07am
- igm
  
  Any business failing because of increased operating costs/compliance costs is a disaster.
  What do imbeciles in COL think this health and safety bullshit is costing?
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:09am
  - DigNap15
    
    A lot, and we are all paying for it in the end.
    
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    December 4, 2018 11:21am
    - Muttonbird
      
      The alternative is more workers pay for it with their lives, Big Nappy.
      
      Not that you’d care.
      
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      December 4, 2018 11:36am
      - Tall Man
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJeNQM_t-E&feature=youtu.be
        
        The future loser…..
        
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        December 4, 2018 3:19pm
  - howitis
    
    National started the health and safety ramp up circa 2014 as an over-reaction to Pike bloody River.
    Resources in all the wrong places, just like the Callaghan fund.
    
    Meantime the friends and family of the CTV building 115 dead have got Nothing.
    Not even a decent answer on who fucked up.
    
    It was the National who bought in high costs like scaffolding to paint your second story.
    This means a) less work remedial work is being done;
    b) people are breaking the law to paint homes to avoid a large cost (eg use a cheap Chinese crew, no scaffolding ) ;
    c) this compounds the National move to leaky homes (untreated timber) in the 1990s by having people put off regular home maintenance resulting in further a degradation of housing stock.
    
    Blame where it is due please.
    Mainzeal went under during National with former National PM jumping ship just before it officially went down.
    Fletchers got huge amounts of work from National and no inquiry to their Gib board scam and still Fletchers cocked up massively on the financial front.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:43pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      The basic idea is good: safer painting with scaffolding (DIY in my case).
      
      I’m just hoping that as it becomes more plentiful it gets cheaper to hire.
      
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      December 4, 2018 2:15pm
      - KevOB
        
        I made my own with 75×100 and 150×50 with used pallets as platform. 2×2.4m bays simple bolt through, 6m high access. $150
        
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        December 4, 2018 4:56pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Some of us wondered what the combined effect of the Construction Contracts Act 2002, procurement practices and the trend towards the re-allocation of risk in favour of principals would be. I think we have our answer.
  
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  December 4, 2018 11:18am
- Woz
  
  Just wrapped up some work for them. Paid too, thank God.
  
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  December 4, 2018 12:00pm
- softail 1450
  
  S C,banks are getting very fussy about who they lend money to, but you’d have to ask why a construction company is going belly up in the middle of a construction boom where it is impossible to get a builder.
  It is worrisome as all my children are self employed
  building contractors ,yet they have more work than they can carry out at the moment.
  
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  December 4, 2018 2:27pm
DigNap15

Ardern has a baby
Simon has a drum set and a great video

https://youtu.be/yoJeNQM_t-E
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December 4, 2018 11:09am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Awesome. Real talent there. And this: ‘The left think they have a monopoly on compassion’ vs. National knowing we need a strong economy to look after Kiwis.
  
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  December 4, 2018 2:20pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Yup, I like it. Great photo of SLG….. (although I believe this is her standard face now,…)
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:45pm
igm

Take a look at this . . . WO has hit the nail on the head again:
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/12/whaleoil-cultural-appropriation-competition/
Great idea!
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December 4, 2018 11:12am
GoVege

The Danes are finally getting tough on illegal migrants and detaining them on a nearby island.
Let’s hope the idea catches on….
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December 4, 2018 11:22am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Waiheke?
  
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  December 4, 2018 2:23pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Australia?
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:12pm
- howitis
  
  The Marxist in Chief will announce at 4pm on Friday 21 December that she will ‘rescue’ these ‘poor people’ from a life of hell and bring them to NZ because she can’t bring the crims, rapists and thugs from Nauru.
  This will be announced as Air Farce ONE from NZ is landing in Denmark.
  
  The joy is that she can get them here for Christmas and be greeted by a Maori Santa from Nelson
  The sorrow is that the crims, thugs, and country shoppers won’t give a flying fig cake about Christmas.
  
  The critter is mad enough to do this.
  All for UN UNicorn points.
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:44pm
secondcumming

Met a stunning looking blonde in a Parnell bar last night.
“Do you have any kids?” she asked.
“Yes” I replied, “I have one child that’s under two”
She said, “I might be blonde, but I know how fucking many one is”
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December 4, 2018 11:36am
Woz

Notice the carefully apportioned diversity among the computer-generated people in the architect’s concept image?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/business-top-stories/109054131/ormistons-200m-shopping-centre-to-create-hundreds-of-jobs-in-south-auckland
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December 4, 2018 11:59am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Were all of the LBGTQFUCKOFF bunch included?
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:41pm
noskire

I’m a Genesis music tragic.
There are three lines in “I Know What I Like” from their 1973 album Selling England by the Pound:
When the sun beats down and I lie on the bench,
I can always hear them talk.
Me, I’m just a lawnmower – you can tell me by the way I walk.
Always think of Gaylorde now whenever I play this.
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December 4, 2018 12:13pm
- Longknives
  
  I’ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn’t understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins’ presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group’s undisputed masterpiece. It’s an epic meditation on intangibility…
  
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  December 4, 2018 12:24pm
  - noskire
    
    Have tickets to Phil Collins in Christchurch next year – his son now on drums.
    It took me some time to appreciate early-Genesis, and Phil Collins has said that he’s not really proud of that era.
    But I think Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound are very cool albums.
    Remastered and on vinyl now at JB Hi-Fi.
    
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    December 4, 2018 12:35pm
  - Milhous
    
    Longknives…..
    
    Nice reference to Brett Easton Ellis’s Patrick Bateman.
    
    A truly disturbing yet Brilliant novel.
    
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    December 4, 2018 9:33pm
Jack5

Some of you may have missed, as I did, this article by Paul Buchanan on Huawei and Five Eyes. It’s on the Radio NZ site, and is dated last Thursday.

I didn’t notice elsewhere, this:

“Under the Telecommunications Interception, Communications and Security Act 2013 (TICSA) telecommunications firms must request authorisation from the GCSB for upgrades to their networks regardless of provider.”

The article:

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/377066/huawei-vs-five-eyes-nz-diplomatic-ties-at-centre-of-dilemma
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December 4, 2018 12:22pm
- simpleton1
  
  To go with Hauwei, would be a way of destroying an alliance, “5 eyes” like ANZUS.
  
  spending time and resources in the future trying to plug potential vulnerabilities brought into the system under false pretenses (as the UK had to do with a previous generation of Huawei products).
  
  Some would say does that matter?
  What do we gain?
  What would we loose?
  Inevitable as 5 eyes will be lost over time, as immigration, greater diversity, will lead to the “great melting pot” of ‘global unity’.
  
  Then change over to the new system, by then well proven, that seems to be setting up in Peoples Republic of China. 🙂
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:14pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Just a question on China what will happen if they decide to pull the plug on their Trade Deal with NZ. Labour could be in the shit with the money they are spending on tick if they do as the stupid discisons they have made on gas, forestry, farming and wefare might come back to bite them on the arse.
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:48pm
Hugh Pavletich

Deutsche: Australian property to crash like Ireland – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/deutsche-australian-property-crash-like-ireland/

The full Deutsche Aussie housing bubble burst, zombie banks extravaganza – MacroBusiness
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/full-deutsche-aussie-housing-bubble-burst-zombie-banks-extravaganza/

… Pavletich comment on top thread …

How vulnerable are the Australian and New Zealand Banks to class action suits for irresponsible high multiple and therefore unconscionable lending ?

What lessons about responsible lending did the Australian and New Zealand Banks and Regulators learn from the GFC ?
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In 2007 the average unweighted Median Multiple across the major Irish metros was 4.7, which in subsequent years slumped to 2.8 … sending all its Banks to the wall and requiring about 70 billion euros of bailouts (from in the main German institutions looking after their own interests).

Currently, the unweighted Median Multiples across the major metros of Australia and New Zealand are 5.9 and 5.8 respectively …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm
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Remarkably … Chris Joye noted within a recent article (partially republished behind paywall at MB) that

Chris Joye climbs aboard the Big Australian Short – MacroBusiness Australia
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/chris-joye-climbs-aboard-big-australian-short/

… extract …

… In our due diligence, we told mortgage brokers and bank managers that we required a 95% loan-to-value mortgage at 10x our gross household income to buy our dream house, and we were consistently told it was not a problem at all. All we needed were two payslips and mortgage insurance. We asked if the bank would call our employer, and both reputable and disreputable brokers said banks rarely verified payslips. Also, “most of the people checking documents are in Indian call centres.” Furthermore, we were told that as long as the payslips had the right Australian Business Number (ABN) and the business checked out, that was enough. … … read more via hyperlink above…
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How much could it cost the Banks if the Courts in due course reset mortgages from ‘unconscionable levels’ to ‘normal levels’ … as the housing markets continues to collapse … driving massive numbers of households underwater ?

In normal markets, housing does not exceed 3.0 times gross annual household incomes … requiring sensible mortgages of about 2.5 times.

Some years ago the Bank of England imposed a general mortgage cap of 4.5 times and the Central Bank of Ireland soon after with 3.5 times.

Refer below … this provides access to foundation research. The Central Bank of Ireland found high income multiple lending a much greater problem than high loan to value lending …

Mortgage Measures | Central Bank of Ireland

https://www.centralbank.ie/financial-system/financial-stability/macro-prudential-policy/mortgage-measures
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December 4, 2018 1:27pm
Poppa

Awww….how cute

Ardern has announced what plans are in place for the baby’s first Xmas.

I didn’t read it because I didn’t want to make a mess on the office carpet
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December 4, 2018 1:31pm
- noskire
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQE0blj5iyI
  
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  December 4, 2018 1:56pm
- Rich Prick
  
  It was bound to happen. Will there be a Christmas Special to avoid like the plague?
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:38pm
  - igm
    
    RP: Wimp Tame, Soper, McIvor, Holt, Mulligan, et al, will be fawning over the crockery-faced harridan and its sprog to the point someone will become violently ill.
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:14pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Personally I feel like barfing.
  Dollars to donuts on Christmas Day the news will divide its time between Niamh’s Christmas and the City Mission shindig.
  Both will be equally nauseous.
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:36pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like the Czech Crim drama still has legs..

3 Questions in Parliament today
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1812/S00020/parliament-oral-questions-4-december-2018.htm
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December 4, 2018 2:41pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yep. An interesting revelation today that Sroubek’s estranged wife had a squad of immigration officials turn up at her door a few weeks ago, despite her being in a “safe” location known only to the Police.
  
  Equally interesting was Simon Bridges asking the PM if any of those who wrote letters of support for Sroubek were known personally to her. Unfortunately for Bridges, Ardern was absent from QT again, and Winston Peters was able to deflect on her behalf.
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:07pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Yes, notable by here absence from the House yet again.
    
    According to my missus, both she and Clarke were spotted at St Lukes Mall buying an artificial Xmas tree and numerous decorations for baby Neve’s first Christmas.
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:20pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      Where?
      K-Mart? or the more up-scale Farmers?
      
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      December 4, 2018 4:28pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Probably The Warehouse in keeping with the fact that she’s a complete phoney and her government only lasted for five minutes before everything turned to shit.
        
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        December 4, 2018 4:51pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Did her indoors happen to notice if they were looking at any artificial babies as well? She probably figures she needs another one in a hurry at the moment and can’t wait out another nine months when the impact will have worn off anyway.
      
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      December 4, 2018 4:50pm
  - Longknives
    
    Is our ‘Part-Time Prime Minister’ too scared to turn up to Question Time?
    She seems to never be in to Parliament..(You know- That job she is paid $500k for)
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:12pm
    - secondcumming
      
      @longknives
      
      Certainly too scared to go ‘shopping’ alone, apparently!
      
      My missus’s friend was just telling us that when she saw them leaving the Mall with all the Chrissy gear, she spotted a DPS guy helping Clarke shove all the boxes in the rear of a Maserati 😎
      
      Just saying.
      
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      December 4, 2018 4:35pm
      - sooty
        
        Has the Tesla been traded in?
        
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        December 4, 2018 4:59pm
      - sam green
        
        Just tellin’ fibs more like.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:19pm
rightoverlabour

Genuine Question. We had a bit of lightning in Auckland today and Stuff is running a story of a house that was struck and light sockets getting blown out. Question is: why does lightning seem to do more damage to New Zealand homes? I lived in Johannesburg where a storm like today’s was a daily occurrence in summer and our house got struck multiple times every year. -with no damage.

Any electricians like to speculate? Thanks
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December 4, 2018 3:20pm
- secondcumming
  
  Although you would have probably had a lot more power black outs than we get here.
  
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  December 4, 2018 3:26pm
  - Johnboy
    
    I liked what you did there secum! 🙂
    
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    December 4, 2018 3:55pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    What’s power..
    True, they are now stealing the metal from the highvoltage transmission lines…
    
    https://www.tdworld.com/substations/metal-theft-south-africa
    
    Also, is “black out” racist?
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:33pm
    - secondcumming
      
      Not here just yet. But you certainly wouldn’t say it in a Joburg pub.
      
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      December 4, 2018 4:48pm
      - sooty
        
        I bet they light up when they get it wrong.
        
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        December 4, 2018 4:56pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @sooty – oh yes, have seen some great images of copper wire thieves looking a little less enthusiastic about life after trying to cut 11KVa wires with a hacksaw, not a death I would particularly like to experience judging by the results
        
        just google “copper wire thieves dead south africa” – images
        
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        December 4, 2018 8:24pm
Johnboy

I’m almost starting to think that sheep are smarter than wimmen! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109080173/auckland-gym-instructor-keiron-moore-gets-prison-sentence-for-indecent-assaults-slashed
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December 4, 2018 3:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You’ve got to admit that there are some damn weird folks out in the big wide world.
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:31pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Indeed Maggy. Thank God you and I are both bastions of normality in this utterly strange world we cohabit! 🙂
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:52pm
Johnboy

Speaking of Wimmen here’s one from Norm of the south:

A woman swallowed a Wilkinson Sword blade and a doctor discovered that not only had she given herself a tonsillectomy, an appendectomy and a hysterectomy, but had also castrated her husband, circumcised her lover, taken two fingers of a casual acquaintance, given the Bishop a harelip and there were still five shaves left in the blade.
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December 4, 2018 4:25pm
Morrissey

Cleaning Up after Nine Years of National Neglect
Task No. 1: Science education

In 2010 the National Government, using the unfortunate Hekia Parata to front the disaster, imposed its poorly thought out “national standards” on primary and intermediate schools throughout New Zealand. This was in spite of massive opposition from teachers, parents, and educational experts.

“The Year 4s have improved slightly but the Year 8s it’s still really, really bad. To look at that and see that 80 percent of our Year 8s are going into secondary school with insufficient science to allow secondary teachers to start teaching where they should, that’s a real worry.”

Ms Duggan said many years ago science teaching was well-supported with government-funded science advisors who worked with primary school teachers and specialist resources for use in science lessons.

But that support had not been available for a long time and in addition the introduction of the national standards in reading, writing and maths had sidelined other areas of the curriculum, including science, she said.

“I’ve heard time again that primary teachers lack the confidence and lack the resources to deliver meaningful, hands-on science lessons,” Ms Duggan said.

“Science isn’t well resourced. We need a system that’s really going to make science normal again in every classroom in our schools.”

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/377407/science-educator-shocked-by-children-s-poor-science-results

Gordon Campbell memorably summed up the hapless Hekia Parata, and indeed the National Party, in 2016:

…being nice about Parata and her five calamitous years in Cabinet would be an exercise in kindness, in the face of chronic under-performance. It would also be a violation of the standards to which she has held everyone else. What history has a greater duty to record is her failure to prepare, unwillingness to consult, inability to negotiate, refusal to compromise and incompetence at taking the sector groups in education along with her, on the many ideological forays she has chosen to launch.

http://werewolf.co.nz/2016/10/gordon-campbell-on-holidays-hekia-parata-and-badlands/

Cleaning Up after Nine Years of National Neglect is researched and presented by Serena Sopwith-Fotherington, for Daisycutter Sports Inc.
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December 4, 2018 4:30pm
- rangitoto
  
  Parata was awesome. Pity about the useless teachers. I wouldn’t give the teachers a cent in pay rise when they turn out year 13 students who don’t know the meaning of trivial.
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:46pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You fucking idiot. I’d bet Bill Clinton’s weekly whoring budget that most of those dullards were ACT or National voters.
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:54pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The teachers make this bull excuse about lack of resources but there were less resources back in the fifties and sixties but they still turned out better results in science and maths.
      
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      December 4, 2018 4:57pm
      - Swifty
        
        Exactly.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:03pm
- softail 1450
  
  moronissey ,Yes but Parata never bashed the staff….
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:52pm
  - sam green
    
    Checked in with Lesley Longstone lately?
    
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    December 4, 2018 5:59pm
    - starboard
      
      stoooooopid boy green sam
      
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      December 4, 2018 7:17pm
      - sam green
        
        Out with Mrs Palmer again?
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:23pm
- Swifty
  
  According to Morrissey one person, alone, is ‘to blame’ for the work performance of tens of thousands of well-paid people.
  
  Shows you what a perverse view of the world he holds.
  
  And his lot have the ultimate solution to this situation. Have all the kids learn Maori!!!
  
  Yep, that’ll fix it.
  
  Idiot.
  
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  December 4, 2018 4:53pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Kids who speak two languages are much smarter than those who only speak one. You have no idea, and no appreciation, of the discipline and diligence needed to learn Te Reo Maori or any other language.
    
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    December 4, 2018 4:55pm
    - Swifty
      
      I speak three you fuckwit.
      
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      December 4, 2018 5:01pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Bullshit. Tapping words into Google Translate is not speaking a language.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:07pm
      - Swifty
        
        Gaelic as a kid and the ex taught me conversational Thai.
        
        You really are a miserable wanker.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:14pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Fuck, Morrisey is really the expert on who can and can’t speak other languages.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:34pm
    - softail 1450
      
      moronissey ,Do you mean the language as it was when whitey arrived less than 600 words ,or the language now with a few thousand of which none of the IWI can agree on?
      English has approx 300k ,so i suspect it would be harder to learn than a stoneage language used by a probably no more than 30/40 k folk if that ….
      
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      December 4, 2018 5:04pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Jesus Christ, listen to yourself, man. “Stone age language.” Save your vile rhetoric for the golf club or Orewa Rotary Club or the RSA or some other venue where such ignorance is tolerated.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Save your vile rhetoric for the golf club or Orewa Rotary Club or the RSA or some other venue where such ignorance is tolerated.”
        
        Splendid work Morrie, if somewhat of a racist stereotype.
        
        I expect membership of those fine institutions to increase considerably after you putting in a good word for them.
        
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        December 4, 2018 5:59pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Ooh, I speak one fluently and can converse in another three, although some better than others. Does that make me doubly smarter? If I include Flemish and Dutch as languages I can understand, would that push it up even further?
      Kids in Egypt often speak 8 fluently. Does that make Egyptians the smartest people in the world? Language has nothing to do with being smart. Children in multilingual environments pick up many languages naturally. Most African kids speak 4 or 5 languages before they reach school. Rattling off a greeting in Maori does not make one a fluent speaker. Only when you can think in another language ( as opposed to translate your thoughts) can you be considered truly multilingual.
      
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      December 4, 2018 5:32pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Maori is a complete and utter waste of time. It’s of no more value to anyone than Swahili.
      
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      December 4, 2018 5:43pm
    - Inandout
      
      Languages like Rappers use?
      
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      December 4, 2018 6:15pm
- Inandout
  
  Gordon Campbell is a hopeless socialist.
  
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  December 4, 2018 5:56pm
- realityczech
  
  I’m with Morrie on this one. National gutted core public services and dressed it up as modernisation and improved service delivery.
  
  In fact the only areas that developed were corporate spin and PR – to hide the truth.
  
  It takes more to be a good government than simply being better than the opposition. Not that I would expect most of the tribal zealots (on either side) to understand that observation.
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:05pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Even the British Home Secretary is starting to tell the truth about pedophile grooming gangs in Britain.

“sick Asian paedophiles”, . and
“Any normal person looking at the recent convictions of gangs that abuse children would have noticed that a vast majority are from a Pakistani heritage and we cannot ignore that. If you do ignore that, if you sit in a position of power like me and you ignore that, what you actually end up doing is fuelling the voices of extremism that are out there that will then prey on that.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/03/sajid-javid-defends-noting-the-ethnicity-of-child-grooming-gang
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December 4, 2018 4:57pm
- Morrissey
  
  So it’s Pakistanis that are the problem, is it?
  
  Does the fact that those racist words were spoken by an Asian make them more palatable, Maggy?
  
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  December 4, 2018 5:14pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Pakistan isn’t a race.
    
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    December 4, 2018 5:17pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ignoring girls and young teens who were being groomed and raped for years is the PROBLEM
    
    Labour Authorities were too scared to take action against these grooming gangs as:
    1. they were afraid they’d be accused of being racist
    2. they were afraid they’d be accused of being islamaphobes
    3. they were afraid they’d upset their core bunch of support
    4. the girls were just white or Sikh working-class kids.
    
    You must realise that Sajid Javid is of Pakistani descent.
    
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    December 4, 2018 5:25pm
    - Morrissey
      
      You must realise that Sajid Javid is of Pakistani descent.
      
      Errrr, that’s why I wrote: “those racist words were spoken by an Asian”.
      
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      December 4, 2018 7:32pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Fascinated that you care about whether someone is being racist above the welfare of young girls.
        
        It’s the leftie way though isn’t it?
        The rights of young poor women are trumped by race/religion/ male privilege.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:37pm
softail 1450

moronissey you fool ,maori didnt even use the wheel FFS ,isnt that stoneage enough for you .
you really are a fuckwit as Swifty said earlier.
Dont let the facts fuck around with your line of thinking you fool.
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December 4, 2018 5:17pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Why do we even bother with the Moronissey fool?
  I’m thinking if nobody comments or responds to his idiotic rants he might go away.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:19pm
rightoverlabour

Another Genuine Question.

What is the difference between a “cultural fire” (that does not need a permit), and a “camp fire” that does?

Also, who prosecutes if you make a fire without a permit?

Is the sentence reduced if we burn effigies of Labour Politicians? (or is that covered under “Cultural Fires”) remember, we in Africa burn our political opponents, ask that Bitch Winnie Mandela.
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December 4, 2018 5:17pm
rangitoto

I see Taxinda has been running away from QT. Who would want to have to answer those pesky questions from the opposition.
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December 4, 2018 5:19pm
softail 1450

rangitoto,reading between the lines I think Arderne is about to have a monumental flame out,she has admitted she suffers serious panic attacks and has an anxiety disorder.
Just a matter of time until “special K” takes over or
the drunken gnome …
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December 4, 2018 5:35pm
Johnboy

I just heard on the old steam radio that the government’s upped it’s contribution to America’s cup yacht racing to a total of $136,000,000!!!!
Tell me I misheard that or tell the tooth fairy how she is going to justify it to her supporters! 🙂
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December 4, 2018 6:05pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Bit hard to figure out how much money goes to the Team and how much to Waterfront Development.
  This will take the government’s contribution to the Auckland waterfront development to $136.5 million.
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/377486/extra-22-point-5-million-approved-for-america-s-cup
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:17pm
- simpleton1
  
  edit,, thanks Maggie, So just a teensie weensie extra bit of Christmas money.
  $22.5 million government.
  $10 million Auckland City.
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=America%E2%80%99s+cup&safe=off&rlz=1C1GGRV_enNZ751NZ751&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibopbftYXfAhXJdd4KHf3yDfkQ_AUIDygC&biw=1097&bih=536
  
  But who knows what other costs may lurk in the system, like trains, buses, streets, bridges, etc..
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:20pm
- howitis
  
  Jesus wept
  There is hardly anyone coming to it.
  plus, Larry Ellison with ‘Sir’ Russell Coutts has an alternative :-
  …Ellison and his right-hand man, former Team NZ skipper Russell Coutts, have launched a rival competition, Sail GP….
  
  More money after bad.
  They should have let it go.
  
  Was this magic money from Maori Santa? /sarc
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,

Labour & Peters still in trouble over the Czech Affair.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/109089925/karel-sroubeks-estranged-wife-is-afraid-for-her-life
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December 4, 2018 6:09pm
- rangitoto
  
  “National leader Simon Bridges told the House the first person contacted by Sroubek’s wife was a former Labour Party Cabinet minister who suggested contacting the Opposition.”
  
  I guess the former Labour party minister wont be getting too many Labour BBQ invitations over the summer.
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:18pm
  - realityczech
    
    “I guess the former Labour party minister wont be getting too many Labour BBQ invitations over the summer”
    
    Well at least his kids will be safe then ❗
    
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    December 4, 2018 6:36pm
- Longknives
  
  This is the biggest story in NZ right now.
  Imagine if this were a National Government and Sroubek was rumoured to be friends with Max Key?
  (Purely hypothetical)
  The Media would be going ballistic until the truth came out and someone resigned..
  No mention on TV1 news at all tonight.
  NZ Media have been warned…
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:25pm
  - sooty
    
    Corruption, I say. Corruption!
    
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    December 4, 2018 7:54pm
Nostradamus

For those who missed this exchange above:

Stephieboy to Morrissey: Yawn!

Morrissey to Stephieboy: Fuck off. Isn’t there a goat grazing by the roadside in Mt. Albert somewhere that you could chat up?
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December 4, 2018 6:25pm
- Longknives
  
  It’s like watching two ‘heel’ wrestlers fight at Wrestlemania!
  Enjoyable but you don’t really care who wins..
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:26pm
- Swifty
  
  BITCHFIGHT!!!!
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:37pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Who to back: Stephieboy with his “grubby old gaberdine raincoat with the pockets cut out of it” (Nasska’s description) or Morrissey with his handbag and notepad?
    
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    December 4, 2018 6:42pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m backing Morrissey….
      Coz even if he loses, he’ll still have transcripts he can regurgitate for the next decade or two.
      
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      December 4, 2018 6:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        Morrie is alright, he is just fucked in the head. He hallucinates that the modern left are liberal and care about the little people.
        
        Poor gentle Morrie – imagine his horror when he wakes up to the reality.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:03pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Pfft! “Backing”?
        
        Where’s your gambling spirit? Morrie’s paying $0.05 at the TAB. A slightly damp brick would be paying $0.90.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:17pm
    - Swifty
      
      That’s a real toughie.
      
      On one hand Stiffy is elderly and, judging by the photos I’ve seen, doesn’t appear in the best shape. Runs away when challenged too, so likely to turn his back once he gets punched in the face once or twice.
      
      Morrissey, an unknown quantity. Judging by his posts here and his obvious lack of success with women, I’d say he’s a wimpy/SJW sort of girly man. All huff and fuff but with a scrawny neck that just begs to be wrung.
      
      If I had to, I’d go for Stiffy, but I’d be wary of Morrissey’s right hand – likely to have some strength after decades of furiously skinning the lizard.
      
      Stiffy on points!
      
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      December 4, 2018 7:08pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        The only way that pervieboy would get one over him is if morrie got lost and found himself in the dark in the St Lukes carpark dressed like a 12 yo.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:20pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Thedavincimode:
        
        There is another possibility: ‘Creepy’ Man Dressed as Goat Revealed to be Creepy Hunter Dressed as Goat.
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:24pm
      - nasska
        
        Nah! Morrie’s a wimp. I’ll put $50 on the goatblower. 🙂
        
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        December 4, 2018 7:50pm
    - Swifty
      
      I’ve found it – Morrissey in training for the big fight!
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Cd-V5NWi8
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:13pm
Nostradamus

From Australia: Tribunal finds calling someone a ‘Kiwi’ does not count as racial discrimination.

The tribunal decision is here. Judge Farrell only needed 23 paragraphs to dismiss the application:

The only allegation of discrimination that is before me is a complaint by Ms Julie Savage that in May 2016 she was referred to as “Kiwi” in the course of her employment.
…
At its core Ms Savage’s complaint is not about racism or any matter to which the Equal Opportunity Act 1984 has application. Her complaint is that it was disrespectful for others to not call her by her name but to instead use a nickname. I am satisfied that Ms Savage’s complaint lacks substance.

Another idiot who doesn’t understand what “racial” means.
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December 4, 2018 6:34pm
- Swifty
  
  What a silly tart.
  
  Makes you wonder what they’re teaching in schools.
  
  I mimic a Jap or Indian (or English) accent to make a laugh to my youngest two and they say “oooh Dad, you can’t say that, it’s racist…”
  
  I ask them why is it racist and they can’t explain.
  
  I put them straight.
  
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  December 4, 2018 6:41pm
Happychappy

The Media are still after Simon and who leaked the National internal poll instead of taking the Government to task on their results from the inquiry from Mental Health. Andrew Little was given a free ride by the media and most of the comments about him were from his own making by using his mouth instead of his brain. MSM have been total disgrace with their hounding of Simon Bridges.
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December 4, 2018 7:11pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  What leak of internal polling?
  
  Thanks
  
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  December 4, 2018 7:31pm
rightoverlabour

Stuff, sensationalising shit forever…

Quote below: Woman injured

A woman was injured by a lightning strike in Māngere and was in a moderate condition. The incident happened at Happy Campers campervan rental and the receptionist, Andy Carpentier, said one of his colleagues fainted after a huge crash of thunder overhead.

He was unsure if lightning struck the building but said: “It sounded really, really close.”

Photo frames fell off the wall, the lights went out and the phones were dead for a few moments.

End quote
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/109065041/thunderstorms-hit-auckland-during-morning-commute

So she wasn’t injured “by a lightning strike”, she fucking fainted…

And they wonder why we think their reporting is shit.

Fuck, none of these snowflakes would cope with living in Johannesburg, or many of the cities in the USA where they have truly massive supercell storms (and the pisspoor storm this morning was not anything like a supercell)
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December 4, 2018 7:49pm
- stigie
  
  “Fuck, none of these snowflakes would cope with living in Johannesburg, or many of the cities in the USA”
  
  Yes because these fuckers would be shot !~
  
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  December 4, 2018 7:53pm
Morrissey

A Killer Dies, a Teacher Lives: George H.W. Bush v. Noam Chomsky
by PAUL STREET, Counterpunch, Dec. 3, 2018

A Humble Man Who Liked to Wear Socks

The obsequious praise of the life and legacy of the now deceased mad-dog killer George H. W. Bush (1924-2018) on the supposedly liberal and left cable networks CNN and MSNBC this last weekend was really something.

Some of this historical ass-kissing was practically comedic. I heard the power-worshipping “presidential historian” and occasional plagiarist Doris Kearns-Goodwin fondly recall getting stuck in the Bush’s Kennebunkport toilet. Daddy Bush graciously broke the bathroom lock with a hammer and then told Kearns-Goodwin, “well, at least you write well.” A special memory!

Kearns-Goodwin also lovingly remembered that both Bush and her husband enjoyed “wearing socks.” On their feet? Who knew?

We saw a clip from the junior mad-dog killer George W. Bush43 remembering that the senior Bush41 reached out and touched his hand after Dubya gave a speech at a memorial service in the wake of the 9/11 jetliner attacks. It was an act of “fatherly love” that Bush Junior could never forget.

MSNBC fake-progressive commentator and Obama fanatic Jonathan Alter praised Daddy Bush for writing nice personal notes to people – not nasty Tweets like a certain orange president today.

(Even Trump himself got some semi-praise for calling Bush41 “a wonderful guy who loved his family.” It was almost as if the networks expected Trump to call the departed ex-president “a “loser who hated his wife and children, with good reasons.”) …….

Read more…
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12/03/a-killer-dies-a-teacher-lives-george-h-w-bush-v-noam-chomsky/
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December 4, 2018 7:54pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I think Swifty is correct about MO’s right hand…
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:06pm
- realityczech
  
  Morrie, Bush was a peace freak compared to the filthy black warmongering beast Obama.
  
  The likes of true lefties like Chomsky and John Pilger agree. Here is your source of all authorised truth – The Guardian – talking about the filthy animal Obama:
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
  
  And fuckwits like you gave this mass murderer a peace prize.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:11pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Ever since I first saw him I have always contended that Obomber was a bloviating bag of wind, and a mass murderer.
    
    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/its-michelle-obamas-marie-antoinette.html
    
    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/10/its-official-satire-is-now-officially.html
    
    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/10/obamas-last-speech-jan-12-2017.html
    
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    December 5, 2018 8:40am
nasska

From RoL’s link:

….”Since the morning, her ears were still ringing and she had a massive headache, she said.”…..

…..”the woman, in her 50s, fell unconscious around 8.40am and was still not fully conscious half an hour later”…..

Fuck me loose! A bit of rain & lightning in Auckland…… “Board up the windows, get the sandbags in place, stock up on supplies, hide in the cellar & pray for salvation.”
Same storm in the Wairarapa: “Shit, the spring equinoctials have started a bit late….better get the washing off the line.”
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December 4, 2018 7:59pm
- realityczech
  
  Yep and its always a women. Same with 99% of all fake medical conditions.
  
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  December 4, 2018 8:05pm
  - nasska
    
    Fortunately medicine & science colluded to provide relief RC:
    
    …..”One hundred years ago, the vibrator was invented to relieve doctors, whose fingers were frequently cramped from treating “hysteria” in female patients. Afterwards, it became a popular household appliance to help women get off on their own.”…..
    
    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/paeb9k/doctors-created-vibrators-after-growing-tired-of-masturbating-hysterical-women
    
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    December 4, 2018 8:11pm
    - realityczech
      
      nasska, best link ever. You win the internet 🙂
      
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      December 4, 2018 8:22pm
    - howitis
      
      I read that a few years ago.
      When i told my brother he did not believe me until I sent a couple of links.
      More than one required.
      A left field revelation.
      
      The lightning story cracked me up.
      She was not fully conscious half an hour later!
      The real question is..has she ever been fully conscious?
      
      Stuff have really dived down a rabbit hole of bullshit in the last 2 weeks.
      Are we seeing the death throes?
      Big layoffs with Fairfax (not facts) in Aussie.
      
      I read an article that said ‘the biggest rainfall’ today blah blah but no numbers.
      No details just hysteria and low qual cell phone footage.
      The reason I was curious was I settled on my first house early December 1985 and three days before there was actually ‘the biggest rainfall in 6 hours’ in Auckland.
      It was Huuuge.
      I went over to the house to check in case there was damage and needed to inform the lawyer that it was not suitable for transfer.
      It was fine. A Good solid Neil home from the 1970s.
      
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      December 4, 2018 9:57pm
RF

Is stuff guilty of click bait ?

They have an article with the headline… Clarke the Dad. Followed by … why Clarke Gayford is a slick professional with new baby neve.

Click on that and you are directed to a pod cast site.

Tossers.
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December 4, 2018 8:16pm
Swifty

Does anyone know whether Philip Liner of National Radio fame is still going?
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December 4, 2018 8:34pm
Jack5

Will the feministas sort out the soft judiciary?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12171217
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December 4, 2018 9:59pm
- realityczech
  
  By soft you mean requiring evidence and an actual trial?
  
  If the feminists had their way men would be guilty by accusation alone.
  
  You just wait until Labour have time to change the laws around this. We are approaching a constitutional crisis that will undermine the very basis of our system.
  
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  December 4, 2018 10:04pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Just wait until domestic violence by gay women to each other starts to be exposed.
    Let’s see how they like trial by accusation only then.
    We’re already seeing Left men like DeGrasse Tyson squeal as they are held to account.
    Lol
    
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    December 4, 2018 10:12pm
    - realityczech
      
      Yes the dirty little secret of the lesbian community. I was having a beer with a bunch of dykes when I first heard about it. They told me some stuff.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:14pm
    - Swifty
      
      I’ve been waiting for this to come out since the 80s.
      
      Long known about and I’ve seen it first hand.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:17pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Domestic violence, “bed death” and obesity
      Three very common lesbian issues.
      
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      December 4, 2018 10:32pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/deutsche-australian-property-crash-like-ireland/#comment-3241400 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/macro-afternoon-544/#comment-3241402 (with further post above) …

Australian property prices could crash by 50% in ‘outrageous scenario’ … News Com Au

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/house-prices-crash-by-50-per-cent-rba-launches-300-billion-bank-rescue-in-outrageous-forecast/news-story/dfe04760314817d932f6a82c32fd19b6

The Reserve Bank could be forced to step in with a $300 billion bailout program to rescue Australia’s banks if the housing credit crunch accelerates into a “doom loop” that causes property prices crash by 50 per cent, plunging the country into recession.

That’s according to Saxo Bank’s latest “Outrageous Predictions” report, which outlines a series of “unlikely but underappreciated events” that could send shockwaves across financial markets if they were to occur. … read more via hyperlink above …

Saxo Bank presents its ‘outrageous’ predictions
In-Depth-The Australian
… behind paywall …
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- rangitoto
  
  The sky is falling I tell ya..
  
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