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holysheet

Shane comes home from work one day, and his wife is watching the Food Network.
Shane asks, “Why do you watch that? You still can’t cook,”
His wife responds, “Why do you watch so much porn? You still can’t screw”
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December 26, 2018 8:06am
- realityczech
  
  I already see downticks from Labour voters as it is exclusionary to gays/trannies and referenced patriarchal norms of oppression like, marriage.
  
  Please re-write the joke to be more inclusive 🙂
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:13am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Realityczech:
    
    They’re too busy celebrating the latest trendy idea from La La Land:
    
    “They should have a transgender [James] Bond because there are a lot of transgender people in the army.”
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:23am
    - VicParking
      
      Zee Bond Thank you
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:42am
    - eszett
      
      And is probably vegan as well, drinks filtered and ionised water instead of vodka martinis, kills his enemies with homeopathic poison, his Walther PPK uses carbon-neutral bullets.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:53am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Homeopathic poison = drowning
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:32am
      - VicParking
        
        He does not kill his enemies he forgives them and offers them a place on our refugee quota.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:36am
    - Longknives
      
      So the Left are now pushing for a ‘Transgendered’ Bond?
      The scary thing is that it will highly likely happen…
      
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      December 26, 2018 9:42am
      - holysheet
        
        it’s all ready happened
        
        http://www.universalexports.net/Graphics/tula/tabloid-article.jpg
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:54am
  - holysheet
    
    Just for RC
    Shaney who is homeless arrives from collecting the benefit one day, and his dis-gender partner is watching the Food Network.
    Shane asks, “Why do you watch that? You still can’t cook,”
    His dis-gender partner responds, “Why do you watch so much porn? You still can’t fuck”
    
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    December 26, 2018 4:01pm
Nostradamus

10 court cases that captivated the country in 2018

1. The teenage sex slave
2. The murder of Kim Richmond
3. The “hideous” rapes of Colin Jack Mitchell
4. The boy jailed for a rape he did not commit
5. The baby-faced dark net drug importer
6. The butcher who killed, then claimed insanity
7. The indecently assaulting councillor and the ruler
8. The fake pregnancy and the kidnapped baby
9. The irate mother, the “bully” and the after-school attack caught on camera
10. The mental health patient turned murderer

Notsofast will be disappointed!
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December 26, 2018 8:07am
- MT_Tinman
  
  “Captivated the country”?
  
  Must have been some other country.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:10am
  - DigNap15
    
    Instead of whole town is reeling.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:17am
    - fernglas
      
      Surely I hear the sound of a public outcry? Or is it the sight of a nation in mourning?
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:36am
- GazzaW
  
  FFS don’t get Notso started Nostra.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:11am
  - Notsofast
    
    Yes I replied, but thread under moderation as expected. All saved for the record, sweeping under the carpet is over.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:36am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Notsofast , so you saved your comment where you said Eugene and Gene Thomas deserved to die and then you slandered them?
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:52am
      - Notsofast
        
        Sure did and all associated nonsense from you.
        But I will apologise if you present evidence they were ethical money lenders.
        I save all the threads, I know what is coming fast down the pike and a lot of people will be traumatised. They know who they are, and there won’t be mistakes made. The tide is going out on these cheats and vagabonds.
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:23pm
      - Notsofast
        
        Here is a straight quote from Steve Braunias, should survive moderation
        “I think the verdict was a gross injustice. I don’t think he did it.
        
        And yet my reasoning comes from the same inexact and possibly meaningless place as the haters who think they can divine from Lundy’s behaviour that he’s a liar, an actor, a phoney. The science in his favour was strong, and various assorted evidential circumstances further pointed to his innocence. But it’s more that I just can’t accept that Lundy behaved as if nothing had happened after killing his adored and precious daughter.
        
        A lot is required. The guilty verdict means we have to believe that at about 1am he drove from his motel in Petone to his house in Palmerston North, slaughtered Christine and Amber, staged a break-in, disposed of his clothes, the weapon, and Christine’s stolen jewellery box, somehow admirably succeeded in not spilling a drop of blood or brain in his car or on his glasses and wedding ring, and then drove back through Manawatu and along the Kapiti Coast, up and over the Ngauranga Gorge to Petone, arriving at about 5am. Perhaps he lay down and slept for an hour.
        
        At just after 7am, he asked the motel manager if he had batteries for his razor. Sorry, the guy said. Lundy showered, and checked out. He bought batteries and a bacon and egg sandwich on the Esplanade in Petone. He shaved and ate his healthy breakfast in the car, then did his rounds of customers around Hutt Valley and Wellington. Same old Mark, they said. He stopped for morning tea at one firm. He sold a tap. He got out a scratch on a sink. All that after obliterating his wife’s face and carving an X into his daughter’s skull.”
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:29pm
- Notsofast
  
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  Not at all disappointed. Anna Leask is a puppet of the police, never expect her to face unpalatable facts, her info flow might dry up. She has said she will continue to call Lundy a double killer until the courts say otherwise, but this is defamation, she does not understand this. Of course she gets away with it.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:15am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Facts aren`t defamatory, Ohsoslow.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:23am
    - Notsofast
      
      No but false statements when they have been explained to the writer are defamatory. To be correct is a defence, but in Leask’s case I took the trouble to inform her, and she restated the lies to me, declaring the intention to continue defaming Lundy. Of course she is a member of the pathetic and craven media, not worthy trying to help. There are a few who are quite fascinated by the proof of innocence but can’t get anything past the publishers.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:32am
      - harvey wilson
        
        If you say Notsofast into a mirror he appears and bores you to death.
        
        Usual rules people, downvote his dross till it disappears.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:35am
      - Notsofast
        
        In July an experienced crime analyst from Seattle correctly predicted this ruling in the Lundy appeal.
        
        “They will uphold the conviction. They are trying to figure out how to word their ruling.”
        
        This is a sinister prediction at every level, accurate, yet one of “they” is chief justice appointee. They had 170 pages of information proving the innocence of Mark Lundy but went right ahead with a false concoction. They know what they did and so incredibly it appears does the prime minister. I guess I will try to engage Simon Bridges with the facts in this debacle, but will expect the same obfuscation and fanatical devotion to this disgraceful justice system from a jaded prosecutor.
        
        The aforementioned analyst has volunteered his services to fully expose this fraud from a safe distance, free from the editorial constraints imposed on a pathetic local media. He is particularly interested as he and his team have access to every photograph, statement, police notebook, and decades of research. Every entry will be triple checked out of fairness to those due to be illuminated. The backing documentation to be produced if necessary. This takes time but is a certainty for the appeal board to look forward to and contemplate how it may or should affect their careers later in the year.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:41am
  - Biscuit
    
    Notso, just out of curiosity, can you advise me of any murders that have happened in New Zealand in my lifetime (March 1952 onwards) where you reckon that any subsequently-convicted suspect wasn’t ‘stitched up’?
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:41am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Interestingly enough I know quite a few people who had business dealings with Lundy before he butchered his wife and child. They all use more or less the same description of him “fat sleazy prick” or some version of that.
      Anyway they noted he was fairly aggressive as a salesman but there was an air or desperation around his attempts to flog off his sinks in the year or so before he killed his wife and child with a tomahawk.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:51am
      - Notsofast
        
        You have not researched the case. Plenty have, including several prosecutors and 6 appeal court judges. The latter 2 groups stand alone in the crowd appearing to conclude guilt from the identical information.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:57am
    - Notsofast
      
      Yes Biscuit. All that are not
      Walter James Bolton
      Arthur Thomas
      Brian MacDonald
      David Tamihere
      Teina Pora
      Rex Haig
      George Gwaze
      Allan Hall
      David Bain
      Mark Lundy
      
      Possibly stitched up is Scott Watson.
      Stitched up was Ewan MacDonald in a particularly egregious fashion, but he got lucky with a sane jury.
      There will be others but that list of innocents I am certain of.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:52am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Oh ffs, you’re also on the Bain crazy train too.
        
        As for Ewen MacDonald , he burned down their house harrassed them , killed calves with a hammer but isn’t the murderer?
        
        Oh. As. If.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:59am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Notsofast, where is John Barlow in your scheme of things?
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:00am
      - Notsofast
        
        John Barlow gave a gun to a hit man from Australia to kill the Eugene and Gene Thomas. This allowed him to be interviewed after by RNZ where he says it looks like me but it wasn’t. Simple police work put him where he belonged, though it is likely the money fraudsters deserved to die too.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:12am
      - harvey wilson
        
        If anyone has ever had any sympathy for this dishonest clowns views remember he said this
        
        “though it is likely the money fraudsters deserved to die too”
        
        What a disgusting person you are Notsofast, I bet you feel the same way about Lundys wife and daughter too.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:20am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        though it is likely the money fraudsters deserved to die too.
        
        Nobody deserves to be murdered.
        
        Might be time for you to review your warped view of life.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:21am
      - Biscuit
        
        Notso, I’m disappointed in you.
        
        You refer to ‘that list of innocents’.
        
        I’d have thought you’d have been clued-up re the correct terminology – none of that mob are ‘innocent’. At best, they are ‘not guilty’. Just as both you and I would (one trusts) be found ‘not guilty’ in any of the cases you cite.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:24am
      - Notsofast
        
        Cherry picking. You believe Lundy deserves to die. He has no life while you enjoy yours you lot. This is a vicious message board but widely read, so the obvious place to explain matters, Eugene and Gene Thomas were loan sharks after the manner of the truck sharks. They swam with sharks and got eaten. There are ethical loan sharks and exploiters, they were the latter.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:28am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Now the true colours come out.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:34am
      - harvey wilson
        
        No Notsofast, now everyone know whats sort of person you really are.
        
        They were not loan sharks and they didn’t deserve to die. No one not even deluded obsessive defenders of obviously guilty men who killed their family deserve to die.
        
        To think I dismissed you as a deluded obsessive shut in, it looks like you are a far, far worse person than I think many of us ever suspected.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @biscuit
        none of that mob are ‘innocent’.
        
        Yep, George Gwaze is.
        https://www.critic.co.nz/culture/article/5462/murder-that-wasnt–the-case-of-george-gwaze
        
        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/coroner-accepts-george-gwaze-jury-verdict-four-years-after-second-murder-acquittal?variant=tb_v_1
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:47am
- realityczech
  
  Top 10 non-issues that obsessed the media in 2018:
  
  1. Trump
  2. Trump
  3. Trump
  4. Fake sexual assault claims
  5. Trump
  6. Fake racism
  7. Trump
  8. Trump
  9. Trump
  10. Trump
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:16am
  - VicParking
    
    The latest is the fall in the worlds stock exchanges is due to Trump when it is a fact that its due to the Democraps taking control of Congress.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:46am
    - VicParking
      
      UPDATE: The Dow Jones Industrial Average rocketed upward Wednesday in the highest single-day point increase ever and highest percentage raise in nearly a decade.
      Nothing from our MSM…
      
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      December 27, 2018 12:51pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    MAGA
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:05am
  - G152
    
    You haven’t included enough Trumps.
    Or Trump trumpeting Trump triumphantly
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:55am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I hope Jacinduh doesn’t read your post r-c, she’ll have hurty feelz that she isn’t on your list.
    After all she told the UN to be kind, and the baybee, and everything.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:15am
    - realityczech
      
      The mule toothed communist, and the wretched spoor of the cursed union, were an obsession but nothing compared to their Trump Derangement Syndrome. Stuff even ran front page anti Trump propaganda on Christmas Day.
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:23am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d never heard of half of them.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:17am
- toby1845
  
  If the media had done their job properly, there would only have been two:
  
  1. The first appearance and Guilty plea of the Labour Youth Camp rapist.
  
  2. An in-depth review of the trial of Karel Sroubrek, to include evidence gathered by Police that wasn’t declared during the trial.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:43am
  - toby1845
    
    Of course, if either of the above had even remotely involved National, we would have heard about nothing else all year — Trump and the Duvine Birth included.
    
    And before anyone suggests I mean ‘Divine’, ‘Duvine’ is a new word I have created to illustrate the limited intellect of those who have been so quick to laud FB’s birth. It is pronounced “Duh-vine”.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:57am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Aren’t these simply the more popular headlines from the NZ Herald?
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:52am
Happychappy

I guess Winston First will be out with all his Parties donors today trying to make a quid on all them good looking horses.
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December 26, 2018 8:18am
- igm
  
  Maybe he will go into the birdcage and receive a “Kick”!
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:21am
  - softail 1450
    
    igm, Arderne is probably in more danger of being pushed into the birdcage by mistake,especially if she’s smiling…..
    
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    December 27, 2018 6:32am
- calendar girl
  
  I have no idea where Ardern and Peters may be at the present time. Is either of them actually in the country ? (I’m not interested in knowing the whereabouts of their luxurious holiday locations, just curious about who’s in charge if any emergency should arise.)
  
  Secondly, did Ardern use available media to send traditional Christmas / New Year greetings to her NZ subjects? I may have missed her message, but personally I’ve seen or heard nothing of that kind.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:53am
  - igm
    
    The less heard and seen of these two reprobates the better for all decent New Zealanders. If both vanished from the face of the earth it would be a godsend.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:23am
  - Paulus
    
    Heard Ardern and Babee are in Gissy with mother of Sleeze Clarkey.
    Peters will be at the GGs to get his …..annual reward from the Racing industry.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:52am
    - sooty
      
      Once Whinneys bought, he stays bought!
      
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      December 26, 2018 5:33pm
slightlyrighty

So now that we have come to the end of an interesting year, what will the coming year bring for our political landscapes, and the Tragics (yes, I include myself in that description) that pay a lot of attention to what goes on.

The Battlelines this year will be interesting. National has made great headway on Housing and Immigration. The signing of the UN compact will keep immigration in the headlines. National has never been anti immigration, but has never seen immigration as a form of Charity. The unfettered influx of refugees has always created a problem. A managed process helps guarantee a positive outcome but the European Free for All that has happened in the past decade has been a disaster, especially when coupled with the orchestrated campaign to silence dissent.

National must continue to be a reasoned voice in opposition to this ideology.

Education will be a major battleground this year. The Reforms postulated by Hipkins at the behest of Unions look to have pissed everyone off. National need to come up with a cogent and effective education strategy.

Kiwibuild is now widely recognized as a pipedream at best, and an unmitigated failure at worst.

Education is the single best investment that we can make as a country. An educated population is healthier, more likely to be employed, law abiding and generally happier. The end result will be a lower social spend in the long term. Our Dole Queues, Benefit Offices, hospital Beds and Prisons are full of people who have passed through an education system that had no focus on outcomes.

Our Health system is starting to deteriorate again as the government has removed reporting targets. Michael Woodhouse needs to get ready for the second half of the year.

The Pike River Re-Entry will be keenly watched.

Finally. The Economy. If Grant Robertson isn’t quietly shitting himself, then he doesn’t have a clue. John Key and Bill English masterfully led us through the GFC. I do not have the same confidence in Robertson.
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December 26, 2018 8:41am
- Viking2
  
  and Maori are moaning again about education.
  
  An academic course for Māori high school students is proving so popular there’s a waiting list to join. But there is little hope they’ll be able to sign up next year because the Ministry of Education won’t fund the programme.
  
  “There is bias within the secondary system that pathways Māori students into non-academic futures,” says Pūhoro STEM Academy director Naomi Manu.
  
  “But they’re more than capable of being on an academic trajectory.”
  
  Manu says her STEM (science, technology, engineering, mathematics) programme is doing what the government hasn’t been able to achieve.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109334319/hundreds-of-mori-students-missing-out-on-education-programme
  
  They want special money spent on them rather than all the bright students out there. never mind the honkey. They could always get their tax free trusts to front up instead of buying up.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:53am
  - Inandout
    
    The Moddies have about $36 billion invested and they still want more. I wonder what The Base annual rental revenue is, and if they pay tax?
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:58am
    - softail 1450
      
      inandout ,no ,they pay the same amount of tax as the churches ,zero.
      
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      December 27, 2018 6:37am
  - VicParking
    
    Why Pay for a bit of Maori education when you can buy a BMW to drive it to a Hui and collect some Koha.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:58am
    - igm
      
      Vic: Before driving to the piss up they get a $100 petrol chit from Winz . . . guess who pays?
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:25am
  - DigNap15
    
    Its good that Maoris want to study science.
    Ditch some of the other SJW left wing, maori language, physocology class funding.
    And give it to all science funding.
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:29am
    - Jack5
      
      We have the push on for Maori education in STEM – science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
      
      A Stuff article is talking about something called “Puhoro” strategy for this – “based on Maori principles”.
      
      The report says “its ambassador is NASA engineer Mana Vautier and it’s being backed by Massey University.”
      
      Massey – the flake home of kapa haka and social sciences. And one of more than 15,000 NASA employees. This is laughable.
      
      If you want a worthwhile modern edcuation cut back the kapahaka. Cut back the Maori language studies. Cut back the political indoctrination. There is not time, resources, finance, staff for all. The choice is modern education or indigenous subjects.
      
      Maths and English are core in modern science technology. NZ education in the first is very poor, and in the second is deteriorating fast.
      
      Maori culture is the wrong and opposite target if you want to prepare children for success in the modern world.
      
      A repeat from a discussion yesterday on incompabability between Maori culture and science:
      
      https://skeptics.nz/journal/issues/32/maori-science
      
      And a Maori STEM policy:
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109334319/hundreds-of-mori-students-missing-out-on-education-programme
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:38am
      - realityczech
        
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        Shalom Jacksie, why do you deny Maori the right to exist in their homeland, while rabidly supporting the “right” of a bunch of Europeans to invade Palestine?
        
        Though to be fair, the invaders claim to have come from Egypt, in Africa.
        
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        December 26, 2018 10:44am
      - Manolo
        
        Wrong! The high number of Maori Nobel prizes shows the correctness of this new approach to education. Africa, here we go!
        
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        December 26, 2018 10:45am
      - realityczech
        
        Nothing compared to those magnificent NAZI scientists who contributed so much to humanity. Their work has saved countless lives and improved the circumstances of billions of people.
        
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        December 26, 2018 10:48am
      - Jack5
        
        I trust you had a pleasant Christmas, ❗?KeaRealityCzech❗
        
        It’s good to have you here. When you’re safe with us, we know you aren’t out painting swastikas in cemeteries. ?
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:07am
      - realityczech
        
        Hey Jacksie, I have finally found something to get those lice out of your shtreimel. This stuff works on all kinds of pests.
        
        Thank me latter 🙂
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:11am
      - KevOB
        
        Thousands of Pakeha are missing out on STEM too. Science teaching has been deprecated for years. Teaching seems to attract verbal types. Maths teaching has degenerated as the maths people redesigned a curriculum meaningless to most teachers and pupils.
        
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        December 26, 2018 2:36pm
    - Paulus
      
      But remember true Science from the last thousand years has to be translated into Maori first.
      They would not understand that a lot is in Latin an English.
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:55am
      - softail 1450
        
        Paulus ,they could translate the word “wheel” into Maori,oh but wait, they didnt know about the wheel did they ?
        
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        December 27, 2018 6:49am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Maori moaning against a Labour government?? Wake up bro.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:36am
    - realityczech
      
      You wake up “bro”.
      
      Under the dark years of the Klarken Maori hated Labour so much they formed NZ’s first race based party.
      
      They made the Klarken beast cry and it refused to attend important Maori ceremonies due to the hostility showed to it by Maori.
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:41am
- Biscuit
  
  Exactly, slightyrighty.
  
  At some point the media are going to realise that what the Left call ‘nine years of neglect’ was actually pretty good economic management by the Key/English mob.
  
  We were steered through the GEC and the earthquakes with no reduction in benefits to the worse off, no strikes, no great unrest.
  
  Contrast that to the mob in power at present – gifted a strong economy, but seemingly hell-bent on destroying that gift.
  
  Think, before the election, of the stories about the thousands who were living in cars.
  Curious – it must be because Kiwibuild was such a raging success, right? – there were no stories about car-dwellers this year. Anyone detect the faint odour of a beat-up?
  
  And remember the ‘record’ numbers that were seeking food assistance?
  Those numbers fell to zero overnight, right?, because of Jassy’s Government’s dole-outs to the under-privileged … who, if Food Bank numbers this Christmas are to be believed, sure as hell didn’t use much of those dole-outs to feed themselves or their families but instead simply pocketed the dosh and continued to queue up for the freebies.
  
  At some point in time, but probably not until the very last of their 587285729742537852 working groups report back, Jassy’s mob are going to have to actually do something.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:16am
  - sooty
    
    Trouble is after paying for all of the talkfeast, there will be no money left for the fixing and it’s in to next the election!
    
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    December 26, 2018 5:37pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Just catching up with Styxhexenhammer after Christmas. Lots of excellent videos. You’ll like this one re the Migration Compact:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTWRdHcUv74
  
  “The countries that did sign are crazy, run by crazy people. Your governments have totally sold you out.”
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:17am
  - realityczech
    
    So have I. He has put out some great stuff. Well worth watching.
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:19am
    - Jack5
      
      Dear ❗?Kearealityczech ❗
      
      Styxhexenhammer666 can be interesting, but what a weird character.
      
      Styxhexenhammer666 is Tarl Warwick, recovered from the psychiatric wards where he was treated for overdosing on Spice.
      
      Warwick has argued Charles Manson was innocent, and should be released, and surprise, surprise (eh, Kea?), has been a Holocaust sceptic, including on the use of gas on victims.
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:44am
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, you need to speak with your rabbi about the benefits of intellectual curiosity and questioning.
        
        Your transparent attempts to shoot the messenger only appeal to closed minded bigots brainwashed with vile propaganda.
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:21pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Jack5, even if that is true: that’s why I’m even prepared to give Stuffy the Rape-Denier an uptick when he gets something right.
        
        I try to look at each point someone makes, not their health history or opinions I can’t agree with.
        
        That’s exactly how freedom of speech should work, and that’s the main point Styx represents.
        
        Heck, that’s why I visit this site, where some people post racist crap and the Stuffy brigade just trolls. At least we have a reasonable shot at free speech!
        
        Plus Styx is often right about Trump, which has been pretty impressive given the huge MSM wave against Trump.
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:47pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Classical Liberal,
    
    “Styxhexenhammer666 alias Tarl Warick
    
    Why do people like you believe in such weird stuff?
    
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:39am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Tell us more about what goes on at this “Anglican Church in a Catholic Tradition”?
      You’re so funny calling other people weird.
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:48am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Stuffy the Rape-Denier: I’ve only ever listened to Styx’s political analyses. No idea what his ‘religion’ is.
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:51pm
    - David George
      
      Stephie, are you seriously commending Rationalwiki as a credible source for balanced opinion?
      They are riddled with a weird groupthink that distorts everything that’s allowed on the site; they have a pretense of rationality in an attempt to disguise their profound unreasonableness. They don’t even try to deny it and consequently have zero credibility as a balanced source. People go there looking for cheap validation of their hate. Trawling the internet for something, anything, that validates your dubious position; weak.
      
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      December 27, 2018 7:13am
- Justitia
  
  Robertson, to use the vernacular, doesn’t know his arse from his elbow about finance. He has been incredibly lucky over the past year, a little like Peter Sellers’ character Chauncey Gardner in the movie “Being There” (but not as sympathetic). Unfortunately the storm clouds are gathering on the horizon with nearly $US 5 trillion wiped off stocks this year, record debt and little leeway left to stimulate economies around the globe. The Fed is looking to raise interest rates and that will filter through here and severely strain household budgets through mortgage interest rate rises. Our Reserve Bank Governor is in cloud cuckoo land believing he’s a Maori tree god and the Treasury is running its economic management on feelz. The Stats department has no credible census data to plan with and is holding workshops on white privilege instead to pass the time. In brief we are in deep shit.
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:26am
VicParking

I don’t think we will have a “GFC” as the rise in the Stock Markets was all due to everyone getting excited about Trump and his positive policies. Then the usual bell adjustment combined by the Democrats taking control of Congress and their predicted socialist F*kup of the economy.
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December 26, 2018 8:55am
- Milhous
  
  How come the stock market rose 43% under the last democrat president ???
  
  And how come the latest dip came before the mid terms, you know when trump was doing all his winning.
  
  Also….I thought Trump said he had a “tremendous victory”, his stock market should have gone crazy.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:31am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Obama started just after a recession so growth was off the lowest base.
    Polling prior to the Mid Terms showed the Dems leading. People who buy and sell shares watch Polls.
    Anything else?
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:23am
    - Milhous
      
      Yeah, Trumps trade wars, the deficit and political instability in Trumps Whitehouse have nothing to do with it.
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:10am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sigh
        Canada and Mexico have just signed a new Trade Deal
        At the G20, China issued a statement saying they will lower their tariffs and start importing Agricultural goods.
        They are currently negotiating a new deal.
        The Trade War is over. Trump won
        As for staff, it’s clear Trump,picks them for a purpose and then they leave. It’s how the system works. Obama went through staff too.
        Here’s an idea. Maybe you should realise how ignorant you are and stop embarrassing yourself by displaying it?
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:19am
      - Milhous
        
        All weak pro Trump, post truth spin.
        
        The new trade agreement is basically a tweaked NAFTA.
        
        Trump got sucked in by China at the G20. There is no sign of any movement by China
        
        His staff leave because they think he’s a muppet…and they are right.
        
        Worst POTUS ever…no fucking doubt.
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:16pm
- KevOB
  
  Think again. The FED created money and that has changed share prices. They have done too much and now it’s time to fix up their mess. We he have seen it all before. People borrow till they bust, and bust they do.
  
  Poor wee Grant R. he’s going to have manage the NZ economy through the gyrations.
  
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  December 26, 2018 2:46pm
Viking2

I see the fun police in Wellington have managed another shutdown. Its all the fault of the store owner that stupid people can’t behave.

A central city liquor store considered one of the most high-risk in Wellington has had it’s opening hours slashed by more than four hours a day.

Capital Liquor on Manners St, which has long had a closing time of 10.30pm, will now be required to shut up shop at 6pm after a failed appeal with the Alcohol Regulatory and Licensing Authority (ARLA).

The judgement upheld a previous decision by the Wellington City District Licensing Committee (DLC) to have the outlet’s hours permanently reduced seven days a week.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109583970/high-risk-liquor-store-in-wellingtons-entertainment-precinct-has-hours-slashed
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December 26, 2018 9:02am
- billr
  
  If you read the article, you can find this telling phrase
  
  “This liquor store is in an area described as ‘ground zero’ in terms of alcohol so they need to be operating with the highest level of expertise …These fellows were operating just this side of the law.”
  
  So if I read this correctly, they were operating within the law. Hard to know what more can be done.
  
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  December 26, 2018 2:02pm
VicParking

The failing Newspaper is saying the Road toll could be the highest in Nine Years (very ironic that) and is due to Speed. I think its due to Crack.
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December 26, 2018 9:04am
- realityczech
  
  So in spite of tens of thousands more cars, the road toll is the same as it was a decade ago?
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:13am
  - realityczech
    
    The road toll is lower than it was 40 years ago, in spite of far more cars being on the road. In fact on a per car basis it is lower than it was in the 1920’s. The good news is even better if you look at it on a per car basis.
    
    Fake news to justify more government control.
    
    https://www.transport.govt.nz/mot-resources/road-safety-resources/road-deaths/annual-number-of-road-deaths-historical-information/
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:19am
    - Jack5
      
      Yep, ❗?Kearealityczech❗ you flying road-carrion eaters know what’s going on in road casualties.
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:47am
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, I have some road kill pork you can take with you on Friday when you celebrate the killing of Christ. Us atheists are very kind don’t you think?
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:23pm
  - kowtow
    
    What is the road toll ?
    
    WE should not count only fatals , these go down due to faster response times to hospital / better care / safer cars etc
    
    The toll should include injury crashes .
    
    I’d guess that figure is well up.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:27am
    - realityczech
      
      “The toll should include injury crashes ”
      
      It does. It is well down too.
      
      https://www.transport.govt.nz/mot-resources/road-safety-resources/road-deaths/annual-number-of-road-deaths-historical-information/
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:52am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, lying bastards.
  Unless they give us the breakdown how can we know.
  Speed
  Alcohol
  Drugs
  Inattention
  Tourists
  Non stopping for Police (pursuit)
  Mechanical Failure
  Medical condition
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:26am
  - tf78
    
    Dodging green’s on bicycles was found to be the main cause. Shame the cars didn’t fare so well.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:20pm
- Manolo
  
  Didn’t a lunatic Green passing as Minister say we would soon reduce the road toll to zero?
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:35am
  - VicParking
    
    To match her IQ
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:41am
    - Woz
      
      I think the formula for the annual road toll (y) can be roughly expressed as:
      
      y = 400 – x
      
      Where x is the Associate Transport Minister’s IQ. Perhaps brainier KB respondents will be able to enlarge the formula for greater accuracy? Don’t underestimate a Green party MP’s ability to record a negative IQ, either.
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:34pm
- Inandout
  
  If only drivers followed the centre white line instead of the white powder trail. LOL
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:49am
- auckwood
  
  In my travels up & down the country, the biggest issue I believe is the apprehensive/confidence-lacking drivers, or the ones just blatantly oblivious to other road users, who travel 20-30km below speed limits, leading to frustrated & impatient followers making poor passing decisions….
  
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  December 26, 2018 10:32am
  - Liberty
    
    Well spaced cars at 100kph all is sweet.
    Slow drivers failing to pull over and FWs who drive to close.
    Should have their cars crushed.
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:12am
  - Komata
    
    auckwood
    
    And then, of course, there are the ‘Asians’ (invariably Chinese), about whom no futher comment is necessary.
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:00pm
    - auckwood
      
      Komata,
      
      I didn’t want risk being labelled racist or ageist, but sadly you are not wrong, a vast majority of the ones with no spatial awareness are the stereotypical Asians (Chinese, and also a number of Indians) and Greypower clinging to the last of their independence…
      
      But being a white male Kiwi I’m doing my bit to even the numbers up, being equally dangerous on the roads being one of the selfish impatient wankers wanting to pass!
      
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      December 27, 2018 1:23am
Steve (North Shore)

MAGA
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December 26, 2018 9:05am
- realityczech
  
  Which we had leader who stood up for us 🙁
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:14am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    We have the equivalent of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:03am
    - Manolo
      
      Is she demented or what? Horrible woman!
      
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      December 26, 2018 4:20pm
      - Komata
        
        Monolo
        
        The answer to both your question is ‘Yes’.
        
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        December 26, 2018 6:01pm
Niz

What’s with the article in the Herald about record temperatures hitting Aussie this week? It’s a complete fucken lie.
For example – they show Port Hedland hitting 50’C this week on their graphic. A wee search of the weather shows it getting nowhere near it tho. More like mid 30s.
Is somebody paying them to push these lies on us?
How are they allowed to get away with it?
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December 26, 2018 9:22am
- Biscuit
  
  Its all clickbait, Niz.
  
  A horrific-looking lead photo that implies the whole of Australia is on fire.
  
  And lots of ‘expected’ references in the main ‘story’…
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:32am
  - Niz
    
    There was another article about Fox glacier (newshub i think) where it showed a pic from 2009 and another from this year, showing how much it had retreated in that time. They carefully didn’t mention climate change at all, but included links to other climate change stories (obviously implying the retreat is down to global warming). They included comments from unnamed sources (so tourists, i guess) about how it looks like it’ll be gone in 10 years, that sort of thing.
    What the fuckers fail to mention is that the glacier _advanced_ between 1985 and 2009 (the year of their photo, uncoincidentally), probably from a point similar to where it is now.
    The media is so biased on this topic, it’s ridiculous, and you have to wonder if it’s unethical/fraudulent.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:21am
    - realityczech
      
      Here is the published “science”
      
      Explaining New Zealand’s “unusual” growing glaciers
      
      The research, carried out by scientists from Victoria University of Wellington and the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA), was published today in scientific journal Nature Communications.
      
      At least 58 New Zealand glaciers advanced between 1983 and 2008, with Franz Josef Glacier (Kā Roimata o Hine Hukatere) advancing nearly continuously during this time.
      
      15 February 2017
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:27am
      - realityczech
        
        By the way – Google is heavily censoring search results on this topic, including removing and changing the page ranking, for findings published by NASA.
        
        Try using this and click on “uncensored” when you get the search result (It sometimes gives very different results)
        
        https://gibiru.com/index.html
        
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        December 26, 2018 10:33am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        DoDo, been there and done that!
        
        You missed this point from your link,
        “This anomaly hadn’t been satisfactorily explained, so this physics-based study used computer models for the first time to look into it in detail.
        
        “We found that lower temperature caused the glaciers to advance, rather than increased precipitation as previously thought. These periods of reduced temperature affected the entire New Zealand region, and they were significant enough for the glaciers to re-advance in spite of human-induced climate change.”
        
        Associate Professor Mackintosh says the climate variability, which includes the cooler years, still reflects a climate that’s been modified by humans.
        
        “It may seem unusual—this regional cooling during a period of overall global warming—but it’s still consistent with human-induced climate change. The temperature changes were a result of variability in the climate system that’s specific to New Zealand.
        
        “New Zealand sits in a region where there’s significant variability in the oceans and the atmosphere—much more than many parts of the world. The climate variability that we identified was also responsible for changes in the Antarctic ice sheet and sea ice during this period…”
        
        Pitiful!
        
        Your Gibiru search engine appears good producing this,
        
        https://gibiru.com/results.html?q=Trump+tax+evasion&cx=partner-pub-5956360965567042%3A8627692578&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8
        
        LOL
        
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        December 26, 2018 10:58am
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, thanks for that extract showing the temperature has decreased causing the advance of the glaciers:
        
        “We found that lower temperature caused the glaciers to advance, rather than increased precipitation as previously thought. These periods of reduced temperature affected the entire New Zealand region, and they were significant enough for the glaciers to re-advance …
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:05am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        You missed this,
        
        “Associate Professor Mackintosh says the climate variability, which includes the cooler years, still reflects a climate that’s been modified by humans.”
        
        DUH!
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:15am
      - realityczech
        
        That was a statement of faith not supported by the scientific findings. In fact his opinion was contrary to the findings of – it getting cooler.
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:34am
      - All_on_Red
        
        RC
        I do think we are reaching the point though where only the dumbest and the most gullible are still drinking the Climate Change Coolaid.
        Imagine if all the money paid out in this scam got put to good use like providing clean drinking water and reducing pollution.
        I thought this was a good initiative
        https://www.theoceancleanup.com
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:44am
      - realityczech
        
        You nailed it AoR. Real environmental initiatives are being overlooked in favour of climate change politics. Make no mistake, I am an environmentalist and a reasonably radical one at that!
        
        What I see is climate change hysteria being used for political purposes and as a source of funding. Unless it can be linked to climate change, it gets no media and money.
        
        When the whole edifice of lies collapses – my fear is that ordinary people will disregard real environmental crisis.
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:28pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, you conveniently missed this point from your link,
        
        Ocean garbage patches are vast and dispersed
        
        Ocean currents concentrate plastic in five areas in the world: the subtropical gyres, also known as the world’s “ocean garbage patches”. Once in these patches, the plastic will not go away by itself. The challenge of cleaning up the gyres is the plastic pollution spreads across millions of square kilometres and travels in all directions. Covering this area using vessels and nets would take thousands of years and cost billions of dollars to complete. How can we use these ocean currents to our advantage?
        
        Pathetic!
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:15pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Funny Niz remembering the sight of the glazier through the chapel window on several “trips to the glaziers as a boy. Our little group often included an uncle who used to visit on specific dates to record the “official” picture of the glaziers. The photo from each visit were marked with colored dotes of the changes. Interesting in static form but went to a whole new level when he and grandfather moved into Super 8 movies. With the benefit of a home made zoom device his collection was filmed with a few frames each recorded. The end result was almost as amazing as seeing old prints appear in the developer tray. The glazier receding before our very eyes colored dots and all. Amazing. All done with the official record of the time. All well before any modest recovery years later.
      The most striking aspect of the pictures taken by a casual Auckland visitor did not appear to have been taken from the same location. Unlike the official records which were taken from a tripod mounted camera centered over the same survey marker. Thus this article with a couple of snaps is little more than a snap of a snippet of history like so much selected for their narrative.
      
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      December 26, 2018 2:03pm
    - softail 1450
      
      Fox glacier is retreating alarmingly fast NIZ ,not sure whats causing it but of course its happened many times over the last thousand years.
      Glaciers come and go ,blaming climate change was always going to happen ,its so convenient to the UN agenda to fleece the planets richer countries to try and stop it.
      
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      December 27, 2018 7:06am
  - tf78
    
    Have you ever read The Thorn Birds – that was a great sort of documentation of Aussie weather patterns. Not to mention there are now way more houses so of course there will be more drama especially when the Green’s won’t let you clear trees from around your property.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:23pm
- Inandout
  
  Little old ladies who still read the Herald believe it, but their numbers are diminishing either by death or mental failing. Adelaide was 39 the day we stepped off the plane, but it fell to the low 20s the next day. Aussie has always been subjected to extremes of temperature, mainly because it is such a massive country.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:55am
  - Komata
    
    Inand out
    
    A family member lives in Gippsland, Victoria, near Mt BawBaw, and the local temperature range is phenomenal.
    
    Temperatures can range from 42 C in the afternoon, 10 (or even 0) the following morning – and this even in the middle of an Oz summer!
    
    It is, of course, cause and effect, but it plays absolute havoc with temperature control; air con one day, gas fire the next.
    
    The local Gas and Electricity companies love it…
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:10pm
- Jules99
  
  Haven’t seen any reporting of the cold records being broken even before the official start of winter across Canada and the US. Snow as far south as Texas.
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:55pm
DigNap15

Quote from @Slightly Righty above

“Education is the single best investment that we can make as a country. An educated population is healthier, more likely to be employed, law abiding and generally happier. The end result will be a lower social spend in the long term. Our Dole Queues, Benefit Offices, hospital Beds and Prisons are full of people who have passed through an education system that had no focus on outcomes.”

This is a great post.
Very true.
The focus needs to be on outcomes, pay teachers on outcomes!
And proper exams, not touchy feely “assessments”
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December 26, 2018 9:32am
- Prince
  
  ‘Outcomes’ are just what this Government, and their cheerleaders in the media, does not want the electorate to focus on.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:38am
  - Prince
    
    Outcomes such as:
    Growing road toll.
    Growing suicide rate.
    Growing queues and waiting times at hospitals (no longer published).
    Growing food bank queues, emergency payments, state housing waiting lists.
    Growing industrial unrest.
    
    But you won’t read any of this from the political commentators.
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:48am
    - Tall Man
      
      Please don’t take this personally….but where the fuck are any “political commentators” in NZ
      
      We have “political commenters” who seem to think that their opinion is worth something. Sorry lefties, “somethink”
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:02pm
  - The Heat
    
    Outcomes’ are just what this Government, and their cheerleaders in the media
    
    But they are right, don’t you know. And because they are right, they can’t possibly be wrong. Measuring outcomes would reveal just how wrong they are, so measuring outcomes cannot be a consideration.
    
    It’s all about feels. It’s all about self-righteous, politically correct “we know best” arrogance, not outcomes.
    
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    December 26, 2018 10:50am
  - MickMac
    
    only Maori outcomes!
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:04pm
secondcumming

My missus told me earlier not to post this….but fuck it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvGalR5XQAErFvg.jpg
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December 26, 2018 9:37am
- sooty
  
  Personaly, I could not see any diference between the photos!
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:26am
- Tall Man
  
  Why the fuck would we want to see “Jacinduh and Wynston….the early years…. 😉
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:58am
Doubledimp

Just watched Farenheit 11/9, an interesting comparison between teachers conditions is that in West Virginia, some are paid below the poverty line (where-ever that is) and were to be forced to wear fitbits in order to qualify for healthcare (and perform the requisite number of steps each day as well). And they went against their union’s recommendation and striked for 2 weeks until they got their demands met (5% pay rise plus no fitbits).
I would be interested to know what the poverty line in various countries is, to gain some context.
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December 26, 2018 9:53am
- Inandout
  
  “Fahrenheit 11/9,” his scathing riff on the administration of Donald J. Trump, will be lucky to gross one-tenth of what “Fahrenheit 9/11” did. That’s more than just a staggering comedown. It symbolizes a couple of things at once: how different the two eras are, but also how Michael Moore’s audience — there’s no other way to put it — has gradually drifted away. It symbolizes that Moore is no longer defining the dialogue. A Trump-era conservative would probably say, “It’s about time! Michael Moore has lied so much that it’s all finally caught up with him.”
  
  IMO this Moore character is a gross human being, as hypocritical as Gore is.
  
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  December 26, 2018 10:01am
Viking2

A good read for today.

Makes the Cols oil policy look very sick.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/12/12/multipolar-world-order-in-making-qatar-dumps-opec.html
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December 26, 2018 9:55am
- Dave Mann
  
  Hey Viking2 thanks for the link. You also linked to https://www.strategic-culture.org yesterday and I found those interesting and extremely well written too.
  
  I’ve got a problem though. Being just an ordinary kinda guy (albeit with quite a wide knowledge of the world), I really have not got the extensive background knowledge needed to judge the accuracy of this site’s facts.
  
  In today’s plethora of competing news and opinion, how can we judge who to trust and how can we spot the fake from the real? This site though seems to be presenting facts with an unbiased analysis, so I’ll read in future with interest.
  
  I’ve put https://www.strategic-culture.org on my favourites list and I’m going to check in on them in the future. Thanks for the links. 😀
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:03am
  - Viking2
    
    The fact that our great fact checker from stephanstan doesn’t approve will give you a good lead. 😆
    
    The links come thru via FB so you can grab the feed from there. found them a while ago by chance. Have found the reporting quite compelling and the Strategic site.
    
    Was interested in the role that Quatar are playing.
    
    Everyone assume Russia is a giant state but in fact I read in the last few days that it’s GDP is about the same as Italy. So it struggles, which makes sense to me.
    The more worrying move is the tie up between Ukraine and Turkey. Ukraine was the home of the Russian Orthodox Church and now Ukraine is banning them and accepting the Turks as partners in crime.
    
    This will cause Russia to give Ukraine a boot in the bum especially if they keep their ties with the Germans and Nato.
    
    The sooner Trump pulls out of Nato and Germany the better.
    Americans don’t need to pay for Germany’s greed.
    
    Found the Real News interview interesting. That fellow dissected all the crap quite neatly and as it happens accords with my view of how things are driven in politics..
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:01pm
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  V2 , did the Trump family presenters cover these false statements by their Dad?
  
  https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:08am
  - Viking2
    
    I’m sure you can fill in the day and release millions of electrons into the fibre to tell us.
    
    Did you even listen quietly to what the man had to say or did you just rush of to find a lot of fucking dumb leads to support you view of the lonely planet.
    
    Don’t mind if you never comment on what I write.
    You’re fucked in the head.
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:06pm
    - Inandout
      
      And his goat is fucked in the arse.
      
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      December 26, 2018 4:06pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Stephstinky, KBs biggest sufferer of TDS, have some sympathy for his poor goat and other livestock he lives with …….
    
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    December 27, 2018 7:17am
- Tall Man
  
  Breathing makes the coalition’s policies on anything look sick.
  
  And for the lefty morons…anythink….
  
  “…I haven’t watched the news today so I’m nt sure what our policy is on that”…
  
  Yep, you voted for a moron…and a liar
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:55am
Captain Mainwaring

Hey Notsofast, are you there? I asked you earlier what your view was on John Barlow, but before I got back to check all your posts and their responses had disappeared.
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December 26, 2018 9:57am
- Inandout
  
  Was Jesus innocent or guilty is a question for NSF.
  
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  December 26, 2018 10:03am
- JibberJabber
  
  He responded that Barlow was only guilty of supplying the gun to some Aussie hitman he`d hired and that the Thomas`s deserved to die anyway.
  Why this clown thinks we should take him seriously on the Double killer Lundys case is a mystery.
  Hell, shortly the feeble NZ system will let this cunt out and he`ll be able to felch Lundy to his hearts content.
  
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  December 26, 2018 10:03am
  - Tall Man
    
    Barlow was an arsehole, nothing more, nothing less.
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:52am
secondcumming

I’ve just read thru all the above posts and can’t see anything where somebody mentioned what they got for Christmas (?)

Well I can tell you one thing…..I’ll be re-gifting this shit!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvRnWq1XcAY1mA2.jpg
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December 26, 2018 10:05am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  That stuff makes me sneeze and gives me a crashing headache like that cheap shit Red Door that women soak themselves in.
  
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  December 26, 2018 10:35am
- Tall Man
  
  Come on…it’s a “chick puller”, hang on, it may be a chicken killer….it was one of those I’m certain.
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:50am
  - mark15
    
    Now you, can smell of Africa.
    No thanks
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:30pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Maybe a certain sniffing fisherman currently on holiday with ardern the liar uses it.
      
      She seems to be right into those types of smells…..
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:55pm
      - secondcumming
        
        Funny you should say that TM. I actually let my my missus have a quick smell ….and she thought it smelt a tad ‘feminine’.
        
        Just for a joke, I sprayed some on the Trevally Bait before we headed out for a quick fish…..the only thing it attracted was this huge fucking black eel.
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:47pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Now I’m not reading anything into that fishing tip #2 but it does have an interesting mental image 😉
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:40pm
Viking2

A great listen for today.
This man explains the politics so simply.

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/945949408940827/
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December 26, 2018 10:12am
- Tall Man
  
  Unfortunately, the left don’t bother to apply logic or thought to anything.
  
  They await a “virtual signal” from one of their chosen elite and they then all leap on the bandwagon.
  
  Even a certain member of my extended family “despises Trump” with a passion. When asked why, her response is simply, “he’s an arsehole”. No facts to support that view, no examples to “prove” her case, just following the other pathetic thoughtless moron army.
  
  I liked Larry Williams’ response when the pathetic Soper tried to generate “outrage” for Trump’s last firing. “I don’t care Barry..” repeated because Soper wouldn’t give up until he finally penetrated the addled Soper brain with” Barry, I really don’t care what Trump does”.
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    So your extended family member thinks Trump is an ‘arsehole’ but has no facts to support that view.
    Do you apply the same logic when you call John Barlow ‘an arsehole’?
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:49pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Knew him.
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:56pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Me too. I would have called him a ‘likeable rogue’ or a ‘wheeler and dealer’ rather than an ‘arsehole’.
        
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        December 26, 2018 3:41pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Eugene and Gene were far more likely to be thought as “likeable rogues” , Barlow just a bully and well known for it regarding staff but hey, we all see different things in different people, I liked the Thomas’s, didn’t like Barlow and you may well have one of the few.
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:38pm
  - Jules99
    
    Being rich appeared to be the reason why my family member despised Trump. That’s the problem with NZ – being rich in itself is a crime against humanity. And yet Trump does all of this on $1 a year, the rest of his salary going to charity. I’d love to see our ‘kind’ PM do the same.
    
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    December 26, 2018 4:48pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Come on, lines aren’t cheap you know…..
      
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      December 26, 2018 5:35pm
    - Komata
      
      jules99
      
      I’ve experienced the same. A VERY learned person of my acquaintance holds a similar opinion, but can never justify his stand; it’s just how he ‘feelz’ about Mr Trump.
      
      I’ve given up the conversation; it goes nowhere.
      
      Noticeably, when two Americans who are mutual friends to us both stated quite openly that they were Trump supporters and even wore MAGA hats to a function we were attending, he said nothing (but from the look on his face I got the impression that he was THINKING an awful lot…)
      
      It was an ‘interesting’ meeting.
      
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      December 26, 2018 6:21pm
DigNap15

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12182307

Another town “reeling”

A mother of six (how many fathers)

And another we love you bro shout in court.

This whole family will have and will cost NZ a fortune.

Outcomes please.
WINZ -no more dpb feral funding programs
Education

Will Ardern Cry?
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December 26, 2018 10:57am
- The Heat
  
  One can only assume press conferences and PM blubbing are reserved for the…..more worthy?
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:00am
  - Tall Man
    
    Get the international press there and she’ll be right behind. She is nothing but a media whore and her semi retarded supporters just swoon along.
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:39am
  - VicParking
    
    Not White? Maybe
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:28pm
    - calendar girl
      
      Names like ‘Hurinui’ and ‘Paraki’ don’t sound European.
      
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      December 26, 2018 3:28pm
      - GoVege
        
        We can’t talk about the elephant in the room: that most violence against women and children in this country is committed by our sexist tangata whenua.
        That would make us all “racist arseholes”.
        
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        December 26, 2018 4:38pm
      - realityczech
        
        Women like a bit of rough Vege. It gets them off.
        
        Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn?
        
        New data reveals that women in their droves are searching for porn with tags like “extreme brutal gangbang”, “forced” and “rape”.
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:03pm
      - GoVege
        
        No, Czheeky, those “women in their droves” are really lonely dudes who can’t get a date pretending to be chicks, googling those subjects.
        One in particular hasn’t gotten over being dumped by a beautiful Israeli border guard….
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:55pm
- Komata
  
  DN
  
  Nah, it’s ‘Local’; no international mileage there, the UN won’t notice,,,
  
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  December 26, 2018 6:23pm
- softail 1450
  
  DigNap,,,,fuuuckkkk,that mayor Jan Barnes is an incredibly smart woman with her statement “there’s no winners in this”, maybe she was expecting to find a “winner” in this filthy murder……
  
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  December 27, 2018 7:29am
realityczech

Why Are Israelis Moving to Germany?

“It’s painful that artists can’t make a living in Israel and that there isn’t enough respect for culture and art there,” according to one Israeli at the party. “When Israel was more socialist, it was shameful to leave the country. But nowadays, when the state doesn’t take care of its citizens, they have no choice but to leave. The fact that so many artists are leaving should be a wake-up call for the country.”

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5177308

Thousands of Israelis are flocking to the West. Good decent Jews who are sickened by the crimes of the Israeli State and lies and treachery of their fellow Jews.
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December 26, 2018 10:59am
- realityczech
  
  The Israeli intellectuals making Berlin more Hebrew than ever before
  
  … as ever more Israelis move to Berlin, a growing cultural movement is helping create a new Jewish diaspora with a distinctly Hebrew edge.
  
  https://www.thelocal.de/20180430/the-israeli-intellectuals-making-berlin-more-hebrew-than-ever-before
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:02am
  - stephieboy
    
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    rc, about time as they were booted out of there and mostly exterminated by your pal, Adolf ,
    
    http://db.yadvashem.org/deportation/transportDetails.html?language=en&itemId=5092956
    
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    December 26, 2018 11:10am
    - realityczech
      
      Yes that was unfortunate. War is terrible.
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:14am
    - realityczech
      
      Hey stupidboy – you linked to deportation documents to assist the Jews in setting up a homeland. Something zionist Jews had been demanding for years.
      
      Are you claiming Hitler was a zionist?
      
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      December 26, 2018 11:17am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, nope! Merely Hitler tried to murder them. Can you help and trace the survivors of Transport 9?
        
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        December 26, 2018 11:41am
      - realityczech
        
        “Can you help and trace the survivors of Transport 9?
        
        No and nor can you. Historical research will land you in prison in Germany.
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:32pm
  - mandk
    
    more hebrew than ever before?
    
    10,800 Jews (approx.) are members of the Jewish Community in Berlin. There’s also an unknown number of Jews living in Berlin without any official affiliation to the community (possibly even 30,000 or so), most of them don’t want to become members because of the afore mentioned “religion tax”. Among these are many Israelis like myself, but nobody really knows how many, some say even 15,000. Before the Nazis came to power, there were about 170,000 Jews in Berlin…
    
    http://www.berlinjewish.com/facts-and-figures
    
    Wrong as ever, kea
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:31pm
    - realityczech
      
      mandk, I was quoting the Israeli media, by Jews for Jews.
      
      Maybe you should write them an angry letter and instruct them on Nazi Germany.
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:35pm
      - mandk
        
        No, you were not quoting.
        
        The article you cite does not say what you claimed.
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:00pm
  - Nermal
    
    Artists & intellectuals. Say no more
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:45pm
- VicParking
  
  Over 6,000 French Jews have made aliyah from France to Jewish state since beginning of the year.
  https://www.timesofisrael.com/first-french-jews-immigrate-to-israel-after-paris-attacks/
  So F*K you fake news czech
  
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  December 26, 2018 12:26pm
  - realityczech
    
    Vichy, What part of Germany is France in?
    
    “So F*K you”
    
    Will you buy me a drink first, or are you too Jewish?
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:38pm
    - realityczech
      
      Germany sees dramatic rise in citizenship applications by British Jews
      
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-sees-dramatic-rise-in-citizenship-applications-by-british-jews/
      
      Oh look we are quoting the same source. How cute.
      
      The Jews are flocking back to their true homeland of Europe.
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:43pm
      - mandk
        
        From Europe back to Europe?
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:05pm
      - igm
        
        Jews are welcome everywhere, unlike murderous and non-conforming followers of Islam, who masquerade as refugees, yet maintain their vile and disgusting culture and religious beliefs, expecting host countries to accept and adopt them . . . no bloody way rug pilots.
        
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        December 26, 2018 2:20pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Jews are welcome everywhere”
        
        Yes, thanks for highlighting the persecution myth, though you may have overstated things somewhat.
        
        Ironically you then go on to display just the sort of bigotry Jews fear most.
        
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        December 26, 2018 3:03pm
    - Tall Man
      
      What puzzles me is why you are so obsessed about Jews and Israelis. Did a girl with a big nose refuse your advances, are you related to Hitler or are you just a typical irrational “hater” of something?
      
      It seems we have a couple of “obsessed” posters on this blog who continually post the same mindless hate obsessed drivel.
      
      We kive in a country that is little impacted by Trump, Nazis, Jews, save Lundy twats and Chinese property collapses yet we get a daily “dose” of hate filled irrational garbage.
      
      Maybe just for Christmas you guys can let the meds kick in and let this stuff go.
      
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      December 26, 2018 12:48pm
      - realityczech
        
        The most common target group is Muslims. Screeds of hate daily. Also; Chinese, Indians, Maori, Russians and so on. I respond to the odd bit of hypocrisy and you get triggered.
        
        So why do you only spring to the defense of Jews when they are the LEAST targeted group?
        
        Fact is it has always been people like YOU who persecuted Jews, not people like me. You people have changed targets for a while, but the Jews know you will be back.
        
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        December 26, 2018 12:53pm
      - Tall Man
        
        czech you don’t know me or what I do and do not despise. You make it clear almost every day that you despise Jews and Israelis. I’d love to know how many you have actually associated with.
        
        Maori are making an impact in NZ, not always a positive one.
        
        Moslems are also in NZ and are making demands that we change our activities and culture to suit them. Lundy is a murderer and deserves nothing but contempt as do those who slavishly support him and post daily diatribes about him and the case.
        
        You reveal the scope of your obsession when you claim that I “spring to the defense of Jews”.
        
        I did no such thing, I merely suggested you either recommence or increase your meds so that you can let your pointless obsession go for Christmas.
        
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        December 26, 2018 1:03pm
      - GazzaW
        
        Maybe the answer lies in your nom de plume realityczech. There wasn’t too much reluctance in handing over your fellow countrymen of Jewish faith to Heydrich’s SS bully boys for deportation and ‘resettlement’.
        
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        December 26, 2018 2:15pm
      - realityczech
        
        Littleman, so you justification for bigotry is your bigotry.
        
        You would have been a staunch Nazi in another time and are too far gone to see it.
        
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        December 26, 2018 3:06pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Jeez czech, you just can’t let it go. You display absolute obsessional hatred for a group of people that you obviously have never met and then you exhibit total stupidity by claiming that in another time I would be the Nazi.
        
        Perhaps in another time and in another place we would have all been either Nazis or Nazi facilitators but I really hope that today any dislike I hold for some others is based on rational reasoning, muttonbird and steffy girl excluded…I just don’t like them.
        
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        December 26, 2018 3:44pm
      - realityczech
        
        I don’t hate Jews. I just condemn their wrongs in the same way I do others. I don’t go as extreme as you in your constant rants about Muslims. Decent folk have limits.
        
        Fact is you are a small and ignorant little man who cowardly hides his bigoted hatred behind a cloak of defending the Jews.
        
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        December 26, 2018 4:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        Littleman, But why your hysterical rant just because I posted an article from the Israeli – Times of Israel ? A very pro Jewish conservative source? It was not critical of Jews in any way either. Why does the truth trigger you people more than any other thing?
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:10pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Well czech we now know you have lost both the battle and reality.
        
        “My constants against moslems” pure fabrication or maybe delusion in your mind.
        
        Then you label my calling you out for your incessant ravings about Jews and Israelis so you label that as an “hysterical rant”.
        
        If you ever had the plot, you have well and truly mislaid it now.
        
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        December 26, 2018 5:33pm
The Heat

I see the road toll is the highest in nine years.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12179715

How surprising. How surprising that the lie about speed being the cause of accidents isn’t reducing the road toll. If speed were the cause, F1 couldn’t exist.

The cause of accidents is, of course, “driving like a dickhead”.

Here’s a list of driving offences that should have high penalties:

– Driving at 90kmph then speeding up to 100kmph on passing lanes.
– Driving tentatively
– Driving aggressively
– Cyclists riding side by side
– Cyclists riding beside cycling lanes
– Wearing a beard and driving a Toyota with a “Save The Climate” sticker on the rear bumper
– Driving people movers
– Driving anything American
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December 26, 2018 11:19am
- lofty
  
  I can agree with all of that…except ya shot at ‘merican cars….?
  
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  December 26, 2018 11:52am
  - The Heat
    
    Fair enough. Substitute with “Small women driving large SUVs” 🙂
    
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    December 26, 2018 12:20pm
- GazzaW
  
  I put it down to ‘nine long years of neglect under National’.
  
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  December 26, 2018 3:55pm
- Jules99
  
  “Cyclists riding beside cycling lanes”
  
  Have a look at the cycle lane next time you are walking past one – they are full of broken glass, litter and chips from poorly laid roads. Plus they are so badly planned that they direct cyclists into parked cars and fast moving traffic – it’s safer to cycle outside of them. As an experienced London cyclist, I’ve hung up my helmet in Auckland as it’s too dangerous on our roads. It would actually be safer for cyclists to have NO cycling lanes.
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:43pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Pop back to Pall mall then old chap. We have enough fuckin road lice here without imports like you.
    ps: I suggest you start by riding your bike of the end of the nearest wharf that heads either east or west depending on your travel itinerary old chap! 🙂
    
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    December 26, 2018 4:52pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Clean up your ‘cycle lanes’ The Taxpayer should not fund the cleanup. You road lice pay nothing and expect clean cycleways? Fuck off!
    Oh boy, I just got trolled there, I could delete but fuck you.
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:37pm
  - MCos
    
    The reason cycle lanes that have a physical barrier to protect users from cars & trucks are full of rubbish is that they’re too narrow for street sweeping machines to access.
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:27pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  I agree with all but the last, I’ll keep my Chrysler 300C thank you very much.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:58pm
Viking2

No Name supression on this one. wonder why?
Six children were without a mother this Christmas after a woman was found dead at a property in Matamata on Christmas Eve.

Michelle Kayla Hurinui died on Monday and a baby boy aged under 1, believed to be one of her children, was in a critical condition after the incident, police said.

A man known to the woman was taken into custody shortly after.

Paraki Edwards, 40, appeared in Hamilton District Court this morning charged with her murder.

He did not seek name suppression and was remanded in custody.

Edwards appeared solemn in the dock in a blue sweatshirt.

Ten supporters waved and shouted to him from the public gallery.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12182307

An older woman yelled: “Love you my bubby” as he was led away.

and we wonder why it continues.
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December 26, 2018 11:50am
- Nermal
  
  Just when he was turning his life around..
  
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  December 26, 2018 12:47pm
  - secondcumming
    
    😎
    
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    December 26, 2018 1:29pm
- GoVege
  
  What a stupid woman.
  Even worse was that idiot mother of the pr*ck who slaughtered his own three little boys, another 3 year old, a pregnant girl and her boyfriend.
  She claimed her son was “really brainy” and learning a lot in prison.
  All morons typical of their violent culture.
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:33pm
DigNap15

And
Driving without a licence (under age, lost it, not yet got it)
Driving a stolen car – really heavy penalties
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December 26, 2018 11:53am
DigNap15

Joe Walsh lost his license (in his song)
He’d just bought a new Maserati
But he explained that he lost his license when he lost his wallet!
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December 26, 2018 11:54am
- Longknives
  
  “My Maserati does 185”
  “I lost my license and now I don’t drive…”
  
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  December 26, 2018 12:13pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Thanks!
    
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    December 26, 2018 1:04pm
DigNap15

And
Failing to keep left on the open road
And tail gaiting
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December 26, 2018 11:59am
waikatogirl

Car drivers right behind a slow truck, caravan, or similar large vehicle who WILL NOT PASS no matter plenty of safe opportunities. Holds up everyone else behind them who then cannot pass.

Patience everyone!!!
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December 26, 2018 12:20pm
- DigNap15
  
  Or at least drop back so that there is enough space to overtake them, and then the truck in a later move!
  
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  December 26, 2018 12:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  In a certain Police district a long line of traffic had built up behind a caravan and the first car in the chain was a police car. A highway patrol car came up at the rear and after a couple of ks put on his lights and siren and headed to the front where he pilled over the police car and ticketed him.
  
  His reasoning was that the caravan was a hindrance but the presence of the police car was the real reason for the chain of cars in that no one was brave enough to overtake the police car and caravan.
  
  It did lead to a bit of tension between the two sections of the police.
  
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  December 26, 2018 1:10pm
- greybeard
  
  It has been well known for years that the vehicle causing all the problems in a line of traffic is not the one at the front but the second one who for some reason won’t make the move and pass.
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:28pm
DigNap15

Someone is selling a $4,500 unwanted drone Christmas present on Trademe.
Yes right!
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December 26, 2018 12:29pm
- GazzaW
  
  Is the pickup address in Gatwick?
  
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  December 26, 2018 3:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Egyptians mock their President for telling them to do some exercise.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-26/el-sissi-tells-egypt-to-lose-weight/10668044
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December 26, 2018 12:37pm
- realityczech
  
  Fat shamers are selfless heroes who endure ridicule by uncaring virtue signalers in order to save lives and billions of dollars of tax payer money.
  
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  December 26, 2018 12:47pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I’m a fat shamer, as It is very hard to look at these blobs of lard waddling around.
    Their face always looks fat and ugly, and their skin is always blotchy.
    They are visual population who need exposing, and some disciple and self-pride.
    Just because one third of our population is obese, does not make it right.
    
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    December 26, 2018 4:26pm
    - tf78
      
      Google Dr Cat Pause she’s a treat for blind eyes.
      
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      December 26, 2018 6:45pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “They are visual population”
      
      Did you mean ‘visual pollution?’
      If you did then I certainly agree with you.
      The only benefit we get from these lardarses is that we don’t have to pay their pension as they’ll be long gone by 65.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:05pm
gump

Trump has just become the first President since 2002 who hasn’t visited US troops for Christmas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-becomes-first-president-2002-not-visit-troops-christmastime-n951846
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December 26, 2018 1:57pm
- Viking2
  
  He is going to bring them home from other peoples wars. That’s much better.
  
  fucking warmonger you.
  
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  December 26, 2018 2:27pm
  - stephieboy
    
    V2, I guess that’s could be the price you pay for draft dodging.
    
    But do note he is constitutionally Commander and Chief and your link mentions that these Christmas time visits include military bases at home.
    
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    December 26, 2018 2:36pm
    - Tall Man
      
      This is a tradition that others set. His choice whether to follow it or not.
      
      Steffy girl, we are well aware that all of you lefty loonies would duck and dive if there was a draft in NZ because you are all such gutless bastards you would willingly allow others to die to protect you. Many men and women died over the past 100 years to give idiots like you and ardern the liar to be the useless pieces of human trash that you actually.
      
      Perhaps we may have more respect for you if you actually called out ardern the liar for the dishonest way that she behaves plus the incredibly inept performance that she gives as our prime minister.
      
      Bt instead you deflect and avoid any honest comments that you could make.
      
      Maybe ardern is not the only liar eh steffy girl.
      
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      December 26, 2018 3:37pm
      - WaveyDavey
        
        I heard some absolute cockwomble caller on the radio a couple of days back.
        
        His bright idea? Abolish the NZ Army, AF & Navy and turn them into International Rescue.
        
        Because apparently we don’t need a military if we declare ourselves above that kind of thing.
        
        The killer point from this utter, utter cunt? Oh we can rely on Australia to protect us.
        
        Be afraid, be very afraid. They walk among us and they have the vote.
        
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        December 26, 2018 3:57pm
- realityczech
  
  Trump is not a warmonger, unlike the ignorant black warlord Obama who thought it gave him cred and made him da-man.
  
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  December 26, 2018 3:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  So what? Seriously, so what.
  
  Did ardern the liar visit a military base in NZ full stop? Has she shown any support for our military apart from when she’s bludging a flight for a nothing meeting?
  
  Trump is his own man, for better or worse.
  
  Many of you lefty teat sucking babies would also do better if you stopped blindly following someone who is proven liar and an incompetent.
  
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  December 26, 2018 3:28pm
  - gump
    
    I love triggering delicate little snowflakes like you.
    
    If Trump’s decisions stood on their own then apologists like you wouldn’t rush in to defend them.
    
    But you do rush in because you understand the truth of Trump. He doesn’t give a shit about American soldiers or anybody else.
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:10pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Snowflake?
      
      You like “triggering”me?
      
      A little popsicle like yourself isn’t worth the steam off a turd but I do not like to let your inane snippets to stand unchallenged.
      
      You say you “love triggering” which clearly shows you are neither interested or capable of actually holding an intelligent dialogue with anyone, snowflake or otherwise.
      
      What a sad little bugger you must be.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:12pm
      - gump
        
        Oh dear. Did I trigger you again?
        
        You’re a sensitive wee sausage aren’t you. It’s no wonder you had to marry an immigrant.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:48pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Oh dear gump, you really do overvalue yourself don’t you?
        
        Still, we have seen that before and you clearly exhibit paranoid tendencies but relax, you’re not imagining it, people really don’t like you…
        
        Off you go, back to your hovel.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:31pm
  - Viking2
    
    Well she called up the airforce to fly her places.
    Duplicitous tart.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:11pm
- kowtow
  
  At least he’s not a hypocrite , sending other parents’ children to do your dirty work to make you look good , fighting other people’s wars with other people’s children.
  
  As an aside today’s ODT editorial calls him ….” a menace to the world ” for the Syria pullout and yet in the same papers’ opinion page Gwynne Dyer in a somewhat more nuanced item is quoting a Russian foreign ministry officer saying Trump pulling out of Syria , could result in “genuine real prospects for a political settlement”, and Dyer concurs!
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:03pm
  - tf78
    
    The only menace to world I can see is the press. Check out John Pilger when he talks on RT about Donald Trump and compare his talk about Obumma.
    
    Jacinda should get her head out of her marshmallow balls and take a look at the real world. Exceptionally Stupid Little Girl who is so far out of her depth it’s breathtaking and I can’t believe people are so stupid to think she’s wonderful.
    
    I have part of my family who I thought were intelligent and they just won’t listen or choose to be living in Marshmallow Land just like her.
    
    Hopefully 2019 will make me a less grumpy person as it doesn’t really come naturally, I just get so frustrated with stupidity (apart from myself of course).
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:40pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I must admit I did chuckle, I’ve called a lot of things, I know I know that’s surprising, but a snowflake…it does make me smile.
      
      It just shows the limit of intellect of these little tossers but they happily rail against a man like Trump but wander like little sheep behind a duplicitous little trollop.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:18pm
      - gump
        
        Yes. You are a snowflake – because you’re delicate and fragile and you begin to meltdown at the first hint of criticism.
        
        It would be funny if you weren’t so damned pathetic.
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:51pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Come on gump, is that what you think is a meltdown? Even your namesake wasn’t as thick as you seem to be.
        
        Did you criticise me, sorry I missed that, I just thought you were doing your usual pointless verbal diarrhoea and as usual ignored most of your post.
        
        Did I miss something really erudite or relevant? Nah, didn’t think so.
        
        Like a couple of other posters on here you are a vacuous nobody with nothing worth reading.
        
        Off you go to your pointless little world and me marry an immigrant, damned right and she’s a beauty, unlike the rancid goat you and steffy girl take turns with.
        
        Off you go now thicko…
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:28pm
  - KH
    
    Gwynne Dwyer is right. Getting the US out will allow Syria to make real progress.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:31pm
- Inandout
  
  Just use a Bob Hope hologram like they did with Les Dawson. I still laughed at his mother-in-law jokes.
  
  http://www.musion3d.co.uk/musion-brings-les-dawson-back-from-the-dead-for-one-last-show/
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:16pm
dcrown

Seems that slimball Paul Ryan has been a Deep State operative all along …

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/speaker-ryan-stated-he-would-never-support-president-trump-and-he-never-has-now-we-know-his-office-was-pushing-fake-russia-dossier/

There’s your collusion, Trump needs to act fast and start a DoJ investigation immediately!
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December 26, 2018 2:42pm
- gump
  
  So you’re surprised that senior Republicans can’t stand Trump?
  
  No shit. His own party despises him – which is why he has become the ultimate lame duck President.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:55pm
  - realityczech
    
    His own party despises him for the same reason his opponents do. He is not part of the corrupt war mongering political establishment in the service of the rich and powerful. He is a true man of the people.
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:16pm
    - gump
      
      His own party despises him because he is incompetent, ineffectual, and inadequate.
      
      Fortunately for the rest of us, his idiocy is self-limiting. The Republican Party will not re-nominate him for the next Presidential election – you can guarantee it.
      
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      December 26, 2018 10:27pm
  - Jules99
    
    One of his biggest successes has been united the Republican party behind him in the past 2 years. Quite a feat. Listen to Rand Paul, an early Trump critic, praising his actions taking the US out of wars. He has 80% approval rating with Republicans in the electorate, which has also led to reappraisal by politicians. Now they know that a Trump statement of approval is a vote winner.
    
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    December 27, 2018 7:36am
Johnboy

Here we go. From great “New Stuff”! 🙂
Murri joker (what no ones ever heard of till now) dies diving……. Second lead story on “New Stuff”.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/109604224/it-was-his-relationship-anniversary-and-christmas-eve-when-gary-hibbs-died-in-wellington
I’ll know they’re doing balanced reporting when we have a huge headline on some old honky granny that carked after a life of being awfully nice to other folks. 🙂
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December 26, 2018 4:04pm
- realityczech
  
  Has Cindy put down the pipe and appeared on telly for some crocodile tears yet?
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:17pm
KevinH

The New Years Honours list will be out in a couple of days. Who will get the nod this year.
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December 26, 2018 4:23pm
- Johnboy
  
  Arise Sir Winston…… for services to huge denture wearers! 🙂
  
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  December 26, 2018 4:30pm
  - Tall Man
    
    No let’s see, he’s on his knees and someone has a sword in their hands…what could possibly go wrong?
    
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    December 26, 2018 5:28pm
    - tf78
      
      Oophs – the Migration Compact with the wrong Migrants per chance.
      
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      December 26, 2018 6:28pm
rangitoto

So Taxinda thinks the Tsunami in Indonesia was caused by climate change. Double facepalm.
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December 26, 2018 4:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  Must have read it in the news…….
  
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  December 26, 2018 5:24pm
- tf78
  
  She’d be disturbed by a fart in the bath – definite climate change all that CO2 you know.
  
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  December 26, 2018 6:50pm
- alwyn
  
  You have some evidence for your claim about what Ardern blamed the Tsunami on do you?
  No? Oh well that is what I expected.
  Alternatively please provide a reference to her having claimed this. Otherwise I guess we will just have to assume that you are a liar.
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:47pm
  - realityczech
    
    More to the point – got any evidence for absurd believe in climate change?
    
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    December 26, 2018 9:19pm
RF

KevinH.

Some undeserving sportsperson and some lefty types.

My letter of advice must have been lost in the post again.
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December 26, 2018 4:55pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

The world’s multi-billion dollar mega project disasters

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12182542
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December 26, 2018 5:13pm
- sooty
  
  Soon to follow in NZ.
  Kiwi trees.
  Kiwi build.
  Ak rail down streets.
  Ak CBD all shops leave.
  Kiwi rentals.
  
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  December 26, 2018 6:06pm
  - Niz
    
    Train service between Hamilton and Auckland.
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:11pm
    - nasska
      
      Subsidising half wits to ‘study’ for degrees in basket weaving & playing nose flutes.
      
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      December 26, 2018 6:22pm
  - tf78
    
    Change the name of our national bird and call it Koha.
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:27pm
- krazykiwi
  
  All ‘infrastructure’ projects, unwittingly funded by taxpayers.
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:33pm
tf78

HELP !!!!!! Friends – how do you cope with your neighbours kids who have been given a DRUM KIT for Christmas, in the nicest possible way of course. Hints so greatly appreciated.
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December 26, 2018 6:26pm
- nasska
  
  Google is your friend……help is at hand. 🙂
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyT8rSrguO0
  
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  December 26, 2018 6:29pm
  - tf78
    
    God that look’s great!!!! I bet they belonged to their neighbours kids. Were there any repercussions?
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:09pm
- Komata
  
  tf78
  
  Contact your local Council’s noise control branch (they should have an after-hours number) and see if they can help.
  
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  December 26, 2018 6:36pm
  - tf78
    
    I did play Hozier very loud, in fact I had to go outside. I think their parents are at the races – might be better to chat to them tomorrow. I could contact Simon Bridges and see how his neighbours coped I suppose.
    
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    December 26, 2018 6:48pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Is your neighbour’s kid Simon Bridges?
  
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  December 26, 2018 8:13pm
- softail 1450
  
  tf78, a hellfire missile strike is the only thing that will be guaranteed to work,otherwise wait until it drives the kids parents nuts and mysteriously gets broken…
  
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  December 27, 2018 6:07am
secondcumming

My father-in-law was telling us that he always likes to take his dumps at 11:59pm.

So when the clock strikes midnight it’ll be the same shit different day.
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December 26, 2018 6:33pm
- softail 1450
  
  S C, Who the fuck could downtick that jem FFS ?
  
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  December 27, 2018 6:10am
Happychappy

So Winston’s quest to find the Whistleblower over his pension leak is still hitting snags and his case is not as clear cut as the lying prick has made out according to newsroom.
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December 26, 2018 7:13pm
Happychappy

Peter’s throws in the towel
http://www.://newsroom.co.nz
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December 26, 2018 7:22pm
- calendar girl
  
  That link doesn’t work.
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:31pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Calendar Girl:
    
    This is the correct link: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/12/25/80486/peters-throws-in-the-towel
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:34pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Unfortunately not the story we all wanted to hear 🙁
      
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      December 26, 2018 7:44pm
Stars And Stripes

Good on Japan for sticking up for what it believes in and resuming commercial whaling.
Takes a lot of guts these days to stand up to the mob but some countries still have the stomach for it unlike pussy nations like NZ who will roll over for any UN or international commission at the blink of an eye.
Maybe time to launch commercial hunting of the mythical Maui’s dolphin also and then really watch the bedwetters get upset.
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December 26, 2018 7:27pm
- tf78
  
  It’s funny how the Maori are allowed their traditional food, but the Japanese aren’t – now why is that?
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:31pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I think we should all be grateful maori aren’t allowed all their traditional food, could be a short week for long pork……
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:40pm
    - Komata
      
      Nah
      
      Longpork apparently caused chronic stomach problems and tasted vile.
      
      Chinese, it seemed, were a better flavour…
      
      Just saying.
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:17pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I suppose making the fucker puke and shit after eating you is a sort of revenge but one I’m glad to avoid.
        
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        December 26, 2018 9:37pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The higher up the victimhood tree you are, the more “rights” you have to your traditional food sources (if they haven’t already been wiped out).
    
    If the Japanese fleet hunt non-endangered Minke whales, then I don’t see a problem. (I don’t care much for it myself, but the sight of whaling makes some people blubber.)
    
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    December 26, 2018 7:53pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Blubber..a bit dark..
      
      “In terms of how long minke whales live for the average lifespan of these marine mammals is 30 – 50 years although some have been known to live for over 60 years”.
      
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      December 26, 2018 7:57pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Similar to snapper….
        
        https://www.niwa.co.nz/fisheries/ecosystem-influences-on-snapper/life-cycle
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:18pm
- Tall Man
  
  I understand your sentiment and I also know that a few Asians, well maybe lots of them, despise us for the we treat our little lambies but a whale can live for decades and must retain a significant memory. They are also mammals.
  
  I can hunt most things but I would struggle to sanction hunting a whale.
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:53pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Humans are top of the food chain and everything below is fair game.
    I don’t have any problem if people want to eat cats and dogs for example just as long as Mr Wang at the Golden Dragon declares it so people have a choice to opt out.
    Too much misplaced sentiment around animals that are okay to be eaten and ones which are supposedly bad to eat.
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:09pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Nothing like a bit of sashimi whale meat to stir up the desire for another Sapporo beer.
  And yes, I’ve tried it.
  
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  December 26, 2018 9:19pm
  - softail 1450
    
    C M, It was supposedly the poor mans fillet steak in
    Great Britain in the 30s and 40s…….
    
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    December 27, 2018 6:21am
    - Komata
      
      Softail
      
      FWIW: After WWII had ended, and a time when ‘Conventional’ farming simply didn’t have the capacity to do the job, the British Government actively encouraged whaling operations in the sub Antarctic Ocean as a way of getting large quantities of protein into Britiish stomachs as quickly as possible, with several fornmer oil tankers being converted into ‘Mother ships’ for the purpose.
      
      ‘Meat’ was meat, was meat, and hunger had to be satisfied.
      
      Serious thought was also given to the idea of ‘farming’ whales (particularly the ‘Blue’ as it was the largest and with the most meat), especially in areas around the (then) British West Indies (Bermuda especially), but the nets (equivalent to fences on land) simply couldn’t be placed deep enough to keep the whales inside…
      
      It was an interesting time.
      
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      December 27, 2018 6:56am
nasska

After hours of questioning, the journalist finally breaks & shouts at the politician,

“Are you completely incapable of giving a straight answer?”

“Well, in some ways yes & in other ways no. Allow me to use the following analogy to explain.”
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December 26, 2018 7:49pm
- Tall Man
  
  At least you could understand that answer whereas with ardern the liar often you are left saying what…..
  
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  December 26, 2018 7:58pm
  - nasska
    
    No one on this planet has ever used more verbiage & PR speak to say less than Ardern.
    
    Nothing but word soup!
    
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    December 26, 2018 8:02pm
    - DigNap15
      
      And bad diction
      Povedy, Labour Pardy,
      And um and aah
      
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      December 26, 2018 8:10pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        “Let me be clear on this”!
        
        No, we’d prefer you be Clare in this… and fuck off
        
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        December 26, 2018 8:20pm
DigNap15

Very interesting the huge number of ticks on the Stuff article on Maori science education.

They all say that there is no such thing as Maori science.
That all students should be treated the same
That Maori should stop their separate schooling system and go mainstream
And that iwi should provide scholarship to Maori students.
That Maori students do not turn up for school as much as they should!
And yes, it would be good if Maori did bedda at science, and maths and english.
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December 26, 2018 8:22pm
tf78

Education needs good solid foundations, just like building a house – reading, writing and arithmetic – work from the bottom and have an aim to achieve great heights.
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December 26, 2018 9:12pm
softail 1450

Im happy to report that boxing day sales worked out well for me, got a litre of Teachers for $34.00 ,yeeee haaaaa.
I know its cheap shit but I like it .
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