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Paulus Gnome

61+ children have died as a result of non-accidental injuries in New Zealand in the last 10 years.

Where have been the candle light vigils for these innocents? Prime Ministerial tears? Any tears by the worst Prime Minister ever in public during the nine long years when nothing else was done except turn up to eat lunch?
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December 13, 2018 8:01am
- Longknives
  
  This dreadful Ardern creature will Politicise anything that she thinks will win over the ‘Woman’s Day’ crowd who vote for her.
  Grandparents in Hospital, Cat getting run over, Hauling her baby/publicity stunt to the United Nations etc etc
  
  She doesn’t like talking much about her close connections to certain Czech blokes though…
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:05am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Is this country being run by a puppet for H1, H2 and HA?
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:43am
    - KevOB
      
      I don’t think so. Ardern is superior. Her beliefs are her own personal compass and she cannot be wrong. The makings of a typical communist party leader. She cannot lie within her values system. She is so corrupted by her ideology she know no better.
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:09am
  - igm
    
    Longknives: How come she has not fronted with the illegitimate sprog and live-in taxpayer-funded stud . . . seems to be her modus operandi when she is soliciting supporters.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:00am
- kowtow
  
  I watched Hilary Barry and her buffoon sidekick after the news last night ( wanted to see their take on the case)
  
  They used the occasion of the virtue signalling vigils to list and show the pictures of some 13 women killed by men.
  Apart from a couple of whites ,an Indian ,a Chinese and 2 who couldn’t be identified , the majority were maori.
  
  So the killing of Grace has been turned into an anti male festival of hate by the agenda driven media.
  
  Not only that they refuse to address the racial aspect of this criminality.
  
  All illegal violence is to be deplored , not just this hashtag shite.
  
  I note too that a number of the vigils were attended or led by left wing male pollies……to them , Why are you soft on sentencing , while deploring the results of years of your “progressive” social engineering?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:12am
  - realityczech
    
    “So the killing of Grace has been turned into an anti male festival of hate by the agenda driven media.”
    
    Yes and the majority of those who comment on KB were right behind it. They went hysterical when I pointed it out.
    
    Fact is the murder rate is at a 40 year low. The majority of the people murdered are men. The most murdered group are Maori MEN.
    
    Shame about Grace’s Tinder date not working out, but let’s not lose sight of the big picture.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:20am
    - Happychappy
      
      It takes a very sick person or animal to commit murder and it don’t mater whether it is male or female but I guess your experiences with woman have only ended in hate and I wonder why.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:36am
      - realityczech
        
        ??? WTF 🙂
        
        You sound like someone trying to atone for something.
        
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        December 13, 2018 8:40am
      - Happychappy
        
        No I respect woman and in fact have been married fourtyfour years today.
        
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        December 13, 2018 8:54am
      - Chris R
        
        Czech is right. The media have thrashed this tragedy almost to the point where one is hardened to it. The media has engendered an anti-male element in the matter while it is a crime…a terrible crime but one where only a single person is responsible. For Ardern to tell the world that all NZ’ers feel shame for this murder is despicable yet the media lapped it up and twisted it into the anti-male garbage which is being propelled around the traps constantly. NZ’ers ought feel embarrassment about the appalling media in this country but not feel shame for the actions of a single criminal.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:00am
      - realityczech
        
        Good to hear it. No idea why you felt like you need to mention that in this context though?
        
        Do you carry on like this when Maori men are murdered and if not why?
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:09am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Congrats Happy, well done on 44 years together.
        ??
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:14am
      - graham
        
        Yes well done, forty four years of marriage is to be celebrated.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:18am
      - Jack5
        
        The feminista reaction continues.
        
        Kirsty Johnston in the Hooerald says she said to the men in her life: “”It could have been any of us [women]. It is a reminder that we aren’t yet equal.”
        
        Johnston goes on:
        
        “Most men do not know what it is to be afraid, to feel weaker, and to realise if your worst fear comes true, there is nothing you can do.”
        
        Grace Millane’s father and brother will be reeling from Grace’s death – more so than female activitists and female journos unknown to the Millane family.
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176084
        
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        December 13, 2018 12:09pm
      - starboard
        
        Forty four years ! You dont get that for murder !
        
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        December 13, 2018 1:27pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “Most men do not know what it is to be afraid, to feel weaker, and to realise if your worst fear comes true, there is nothing you can do.”
        
        That’s really incredible. What boy doesn’t know how it feels to be bullied by bigger boys? What young man going out to clubs doesn’t hope some gang of tough guys doesn’t attack him?
        Who hasn’t seen cases of men murdered ‘for fun’ by bigger guys or some creep carrying a knife?
        
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        December 13, 2018 4:02pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “Not only that they refuse to address the racial aspect of this criminality.”
      
      Calling the problem ‘racial’ instead of ‘cultural’ or ‘ideological’ sets critics up to be ignored as ‘racists’.
      
      I think of it this way: we all know or are part-Maori people, successful and decent. Because of the culture/ideology accepted.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:44am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    kowtow
    
    Get with the Programme. White middle aged Males like me are the direct and only cause of all the problems that afflict our country.
    
    I and those like me are personally responsible for all the rapes. killings, poverdy, anti social behaviour, bullying, intimidation etc etc.
    
    Have I left anything out.
    
    And my reply………………………….
    
    I and my fellow White males pay most of the tax, most of the rates, don’t consume much in the way of social services, don’t trouble the Police or the Hospital services.
    
    In my case for the past 50 years.
    
    That’s what I have done for my country.
    
    I look forward to the vitriolic responses from the usual morons.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:54am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And in the case of my Father and 4 Uncles… (all White males)…gave up 6 years of their life to fight overseas for this Country (and in the case of my 5th Uncle…gave his life for NZ – his adopted country).
      
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      December 13, 2018 6:00pm
- G152
  
  Sadly that is the JACK effect.
  Just Another C—s Kid..
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:28am
- Harkman
  
  Yes I, as you all know, are furious about this killing and it is good to see people caring. How horrific. But what happens next time? Sadly there will be a next time. What if the woman killed is Chinese, Japanese or Korean. If we don’t turn out, we’re racists in their eyes. Our media is setting us all up for a future failure.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:10am
  - MCos
    
    You’ve clearly forgotten about Blessie Gotingco who was murdered in Auckland four years ago.
    She was Filipino.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/10107981/Community-marches-for-Blessie
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:30am
  - rangitoto
    
    I haven’t heard of any evidence that the case involves a killing. No cause of death has been released.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:38am
    - KevOB
      
      Are DoC organising killings too?
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:12am
      - rangitoto
        
        Bad drugs, drug overdose, or even natural causes followed by panic by the accused are feasible. Until a cause of death is known it is speculation that violence was involved.
        
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        December 13, 2018 11:43am
- MCos
  
  “Where have been the candle light vigils for these innocents?”
  Have you checked that there haven’t been any before writing this inflammatory comment?
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:02am
- GoVege
  
  We’ve had a few marches for poor little kids killed in the home.
  We need more IMO.
  The reason for all this outcry over Grace is because she was a young woman, recently graduated on her OE and then her life gets destroyed in a place we like to convince ourselves is safe.
  
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  December 13, 2018 12:47pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Do you really think marches and vigils achieve anything?
    
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    December 13, 2018 4:05pm
Captain Mainwaring

Looks like the Nats have got Comrade Cindy pinned against the wall regarding the Sroubek affair.
Watch this space.
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December 13, 2018 8:01am
- VicParking
  
  Looks like we are getting to the Core of the issue and the Hard truth will soon come out.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:05am
  - Brian Marshall
    
    Hardcore truth…….
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:05am
  - Longknives
    
    It won’t even be reported though- If this was John Key it would be screaming headline news and Media would be hounding him for answers/ resignation!
    
    I detest the Media in New Zealand.
    National need to be more ‘Trump-like’ and just ignore them…
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:07am
    - sooty
      
      Along side is ILG. Photos coming out of the Slease hanging around the hardcore kickboxers. You wonder why with a body like that?
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:13am
      - igm
        
        If the Slease is not hanging out with kick boxers, he is at the local mosque . . . never seems to take his Labour sign written van. Maybe he is too scared to drive it after he was driven into for being a scum arse at a Fed Farm meeting.
        
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        December 13, 2018 11:10am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Your spot on, Ferguson on RNZ wouldn’t accept that the text to the SLG didn’t pass the sniff test.
      
      Plus the opposition were given the usual line “she didn’t respond to the text”.
      
      Now when did I hear that line used this year? Any idea, Mr D…. Handley?
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:15am
      - labrator
        
        Very specific wording from Ardern again. Same as with the Handely affair when she was so precise as to say “I didn’t reply that day” because she replied the next day. That’s some next level obfuscation from the “most transparent” government ever.
        
        I have to reiterate that when she said “I actually think it’s possible to be in politics without lying” that she was lying.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:05am
    - oldgolfer
      
      Newstalk ZB had it this morning, and Paula Bennett was talking about the connection on RNZ this morning, despite the best effort by the interviewer – sorry, interrogator – to diminish the issue.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:19am
    - realityczech
      
      “It won’t even be reported though- If this was John Key it would be screaming headline news and Media would be hounding him for answers/ resignation!”
      
      There would be saturation coverage if Key was found to have had links to organised crime and Hells Angels associates.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:23am
    - GazzaW
      
      Totally agree Longknives.
      
      Nothing in stuff. Nothing on Newstalk ZB news. Derek Chen’s article in the Herald removed overnight. It’s as if nothing has happened. Ardern’s spin doctors have been working overtime.
      
      The media in NZ couldn’t care less but that’s what you get when you allow the sale of your entire media assets to foreign interests.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:45am
      - realityczech
        
        Ardern has the – media, Hells Angels, Police, SIS and other government agencies on her side. Snitches get stitches in those circles.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:11am
      - KevOB
        
        Corruption won’t remain hidden. There are too many people to pay off and contacts to be hidden.
        
        Good work so far–now to stir up our inquisitive Police.
        
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        December 13, 2018 11:18am
    - igm
      
      Longkinives: If you hate media you must make it known financially. Next time you buy a new car, or anything of higher monetary value, check to see if the retailer advertises in any media you dislike.
      If they do, tell them to jam their product, and source one from a retailer who does not.
      It will have a desired effect in time.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:38am
    - RF
      
      Tim B the Newstalk ZB host on the midnight to 5 shift this morning was most enlightening.
      
      He virtually called SLAG a liar and gave her a mark of 3 out of 10 for transparency.
      
      I listened to callers for a while and did not hear anyone who believed in the PM.
      
      This is going to get very interesting.
      
      Arderns response to this latest cluster is identical to her response to Currans previous lies.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:39am
- artemisia
  
  Some good work on Mr George’s blog gathering a bunch of stuff in one place.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:06am
  - Woz
    
    Oo! Where? Is there a link?
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:09am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Maggie had a link on GD yesterday,
      
      https://yournz.org/2018/12/13/sroubek-hardcore-ardern-pressure-builds-for-full-disclosure/
      
      If you read nothing else today, read this, put it on Facebook, e mail it to your local MP, make a billboard out of it….
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:18am
      - labrator
        
        So ILG says no association other than Hardcore knowing or being friends with: Chlöe Swarbrick, James Shaw, Golriz Ghahraman, Jacinda Ardern and Clarke Gayford.
        
        So open, much transparency #letsDrainThis
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:10am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Thanks ROL. Wow. Just wow. How is this not screaming headlines in the meeja?
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:23am
  - cmm
    
    The Handley saga has not been dealt with adequately either, it is just buried three layers deep under other scandals.
    
    With Handley, PriNZess said she’d “talk to the team” and Handley ended up with a $400k cushy gig and an expedited NZ citizenship.
    
    This time a submission from Hardcore and a violent drug-running criminal gets a red carpet.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:40am
    - Surely Knott
      
      It also makes a mockery of parliamentary question time. The Nats have been asing for a month, specifically if Hardocre made representations and if those representations had any link to the government. And we’ve been told it’s not in the public interest and that she didn’t know, using tricky words. The questions were clear and she had every opportunity to present the truth during question time but was allowed to play cute supported by Mallard and W. Peters. Instead she has an assistant release the information after question time closes. And the media cover for her. Not a single mention on the herald or stuff. #ShowusalltextsfromHardcore #Enquiryneeded #Corruptmedia
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:59am
- MrsAnnie
  
  The UMR hit piece is directly related to the latest Cindy revelations. The highlighted would for Simon was untrustworthy – this was no accident. It was a hit job to water down any thing he has on Cindy. Its time to take off the gloves.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:32am
  - sooty
    
    Bypass the media.
    Do a Trump and go direct to the public.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:44am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    Sorry- I really must spell check- should read highlighted word for Simon (I won’t say what my degree is in)
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Matthew Hooton’s OIA request to ILG about all the information and advice he received on Karel Sroubek is due for an answer in 4 days.
  https://fyi.org.nz/request/8981-karel-sroubek?unfold=1
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:16am
  - realityczech
    
    Maggy, be careful. Though I think Gisborne is more Mongrel Mob which should keep Ardern’s Hell Angels associates out.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:18am
  - KevOB
    
    Ardern has made it plain the OIA is now weaponised and it may take months for information to emerge.
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:22am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Hosking talking to Bridges about the text to our glorious leader from Hardcore (you would change your name wouldn’t you?)
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/simon-bridges-says-text-shows-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-hasnt-been-honest-about-karel-sroubek-residency/
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:28am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Thanks for the link Paulus. I think National are have been doing very good work on this.
    
    However, I really have to say that poor Simon Bridges just doesn’t have the communication skills to get the message across. Even with Mike Hosking trying to help him out he just seems to scramble the guts of what he’s saying with badly enunciated waffle.
    
    I listened carefully and I could understand what the guy was saying…. but I’m sure the average listener just blanked it out as ‘too hard on the ears to listen to’.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:35am
    - Kiwi Dave
      
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      December 13, 2018 1:04pm
- freethinker
  
  Would that be the same wall used for the firing squad – just asking for a friend!
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:06am
pdm

Resign Jacinda Resign!!!

You have misled Parliament – probably more than once.
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December 13, 2018 8:01am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  pdm, snooze button alert of the week!
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:11am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Quite right Stevie. Just one little text, unsolicited and unanswered. Again.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:18am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Yes I agree septic, we all text those we don’t know very well, especially “busy corporate” casual aquaintances to tell them the good news about people they don’t know!
      //
      Get real Cindy. Time to fess up…
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:39am
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      Well, not answered from HER phone, but a cursory inspection of Gayfords phone around the same time could be most illuminating now, couldn’t it!
      
      However, as he has no official status beyond first baby daddy, he’s not subject to any sort of official information request is he!
      
      As the lady on the 4 square ad used to say, “How convenient!”
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:51am
  - pdm
    
    Howabout the photo over at Whaleoil. Hardcore with his arm/s around Adern, plus he is able to text her and she says he is a CASUAL acquaintance.
    
    I say bullshit to that.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:23am
    - realityczech
      
      He is a close connection that has Ardern’s private phone number and is in with Gayford.
      
      There is nothing casual about it.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:25am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Given my reluctance to visit that place pdm, is it this photo?
      
      https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BwuMVcKl47AFfvCIec6PKNcR_wxjHvRc
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:43am
      - simpleton1
        
        With another earlier Prime Minister.
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuNElkoUwAI02Ns.jpg
        
        So which one had the exerted the most influence? and when?
        
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        December 13, 2018 8:56am
      - pdm
        
        No a different one taken at Parliament with his arm over shoulder and her arm around his waist.
        
        Probably more recent than the one you linked to Inv which looks like a campaign photo.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:32am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      Not the only photo of them- leaders give out their number to very few people, usual family and caucus members and a few others.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:10am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Wow, that’s incredible! Taxinda is the one putting her arm around him while grinning enthusiastically. She wasn’t just standing there, reluctantly having a photo taken with some unknown guy.
      
      I mean this one:
      
      https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BwuMVcKl47AFfvCIec6PKNcR_wxjHvRc
      
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      December 13, 2018 10:00am
- septic skeptic
  
  Earlier reading between the lines led us to conclude ILG’s first decision was influenced and made before he skimmed through the file. Reading between the lines now we know who might have influenced him,
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:29am
  - simpleton1
    
    Who would have had the most influence?
    
    Would that go back to the time when visas allowed to Soubek under another Prime Minister?
    
    A cosy picture.
    https://twitter.com/RichardMorganNZ/status/1072776555829485568/photo/1
    
    In Ritchies Hardcore’s travels had he known of and or met Soubek, had any dealings, and/or knew of his real name?
    
    edit, see 2ndcummings has this covered just below.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:35am
- igm
  
  The lying harridan won’t go until she has no room to move . . . drive the crockery-faced maggot out NOW!
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:12am
- KevOB
  
  Firstlty she has misled herself.
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:24am
Longknives

‘Reading between the Lines’ it would appear Jacinda knows rather a lot more about this Sroubek matter than she has been letting on…

*Shame the Labour Party-controlled NZ Media are refusing to report yesterday’s staggering developments!
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December 13, 2018 8:01am
- Souvlaki
  
  We are looking at you Soper….your almost visceral hatred of Bridges ,for reasons unclear to most of us ” mortals” perhaps should be examined closely in light of these staggering developments.??
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:06am
  - freethinker
    
    Is it Possible Barely Sober is another of Sroubecks clients/contacts – just asking for a friend?????
    
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    December 13, 2018 12:18pm
- secondcumming
  
  And who is *RICK*…..WHAT DOES HE KNOW??
  
  https://twitter.com/RichardMorganNZ/status/1072776555829485568/photo/1
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:07am
  - Jules99
    
    Labour seem to be spending a lot face time with people who look like thugs to me. Not the sort of people I mix with, but I then I have standards. When your belief system is ‘everybody is the same’ you are going to get into trouble.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:44am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Could Mr Hardcore be a former “friend with certain benefits”? Just questioning between the lines. After all, there’s a lot Cindy isn’t sharing with us.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:02am
- Justitia
  
  It’s vital the Opposition keeps up the attack. Did Mr Hardcore make representations on behalf of Mr Sroubeck? What did Ardern know and when did she know it? The Sroubeck file must be released along with any communications to and from Ardern on the matter.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:08am
  - sooty
    
    With the Slease hanging around the kickboxers, did he give the dud cheque a free pass in return for free favors?
    I don’t want to keep pushing the “line”, but how do we know?
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:25am
    - realityczech
      
      sooty, these [Ardern & Gayford] are Hells Angels associates. They won’t talk.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:28am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  LK, what developments, what did I miss?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:08am
  - sooty
    
    Was devolping late last night in GD.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:26am
    - Woz
      
      Off to have a look.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:28am
      - cmm
        
        General Debate
        
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        December 13, 2018 8:30am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Release the squirrels!!!!!! Release the squirrels!!!!!!
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12175727
        
        Unbelievable.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:57am
krazykiwi

Poll shows Brits are hardening against Brexit compromise.

As they should. May’s ‘deal’ is a complete sellout, worse than than status quo, and having the UK relinquish any subsequent right to withdraw.
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December 13, 2018 8:02am
- VicParking
  
  Krasy please detail this “complete sellout”. Just a list will do….
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:06am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Sure. Try here.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:19am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Start with the divorce payment, which even the House of Lords has said the Brits don’t have to pay (& the HoL is stacked with pro EU MPs).
    Then there is the retention of many of the clauses of many the EU treaties that were enshrined into UK legislation.
    The problem of the Customs Union & NI has been ham fisted. Yes, there is the peace accord, but there are options which May didn’t entertain.
    
    Her problem is she gave too much, got a bad deal & is now stuck. She didn’t read the Europeans right, she offered up money & got nothing for it. Germany has always needed Britain in the EU more than Britain has needed the EU, but British politicians stupidity/veinity has never allowed them to realise this. They have always wanted to be the centre of the club, & they have always failed, because they didn’t understand the EU.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:33am
    - Ross12
      
      hullkiwi
      I think the biggest issue for May was having EU fanatic and bureaucrat Ollie Robbins ( I hope I have the right name) as her key adviser. Or perhaps it was a case of accepting him into the position when he was actually planted there by remainers like Blair (he used to work for Blair).
      
      Also it not over yet in that if the confidence vote fails then they cannot challenge May for another 12 months. A lot of damage could be done during that time.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:57am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Ross, I agree. We have to remember May was always a Remoaner.
        
        I can always remember her being IDS’s party chairman & the media talked of her as a future party leader & I would shake my head.
        
        Then she became Home Secretary & came up with that numpty idea of voting for the Area Police Commisioner. Boy did England get some dud results out of that exercise. The one in Kent made a fool of herself in the first year by appointing a teenage girl who had a “history”.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:24am
      - Ross12
        
        May has survived the confidence vote.
        200/117 was the result.
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:17am
- tas
  
  It’s easy to criticize, but no one has any good alternatives.
  
  The problem is Northern Ireland. It was in a state resembling civil war until the Good Friday Agreement in 1998. Leaving the customs union will require revisiting that agreement and the only thing everyone can agree on is that this would be very difficult.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:14am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I always maintained that NI was a headache that would cause major issues. If Brexit occurs, NI becomes a thorn for a long time. There is no simple solution to the NI border issue.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:20am
  - MCos
    
    Ireland should never have been divided in the first place. There’s been nothing, but trouble come of it ever since.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:36am
- artemisia
  
  If no Brexit deal one or two farmers, manufacturers, retailers and tourist related sectors in Europe will be wondering what they will do with their unsold capsicums, cabbages and cars. And their businesses.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:40am
  - Jules99
    
    People still want to trade – it’s only the politicians who make it hard for them.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:46am
waikatogirl

Strike action by ANZ staff has been called off. Christmas miracles do happen!

Pleased for all the families who can now enjoy their Christmas together.
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December 13, 2018 8:03am
- sooty
  
  National says that there have never been more strikes than when Comrade Cindy was in primary school! This from a union friendly goverment?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:09am
- artemisia
  
  Yes, good that the strike has been called off. Sour taste for tens of thousands directly affected, and many many more indirectly.
  
  People won’t forget.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:12am
- Duncan Brown
  
  It’s not a Christmas miracle, it’s a blatant coercion. Consumers will pay more in the end. Inflation anyone?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:19am
- lifesgood
  
  Yes but what did those engineer scum bags get in return. Watch out for higher rates on ANZ, as if they aren’t high enough now.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:40am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Perhaps the discussion with the E-tu union was along the lines of “Why are you pissing off nearly 100,000 VOTERS?”
  
  Too late though, damage done, the herd has been spooked.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:54am
- KevOB
  
  The threats were well timed by the union to get what they wanted quickly.
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:29am
oob

I demand a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Sroubek scandal. I hope other Kiwis do too.
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December 13, 2018 8:04am
artemisia

In Stuff today two MPs debate the issue of NZPost branches closing.

Rongotai Labour MP Mr Eagle gets almost tearful as he tells that his local branch allows customers to practice the forgotten art of chatting. Really? Really??

Perhaps he should encourage his constituents to take the bus as I can assure him there’s a good deal of chatting going on there these days. And not in a good way as passengers try to figure out where to get on and off, and connect the 2 or 3 times needed to get to their destination.

Rongotai MP Paul Eagle says that there’s more than meets the eye when it comes to his local post shop. It doesn’t just offer postal services – it’s a community hub where locals come together and practice the forgotten art of chatting. He gets quite emotional about his local post shop and the role it plays in connecting people.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109100752/nz-post–branches-are-closing-because-they-just-arent-used-enough-says-mp
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December 13, 2018 8:05am
- VicParking
  
  All the old and invalid who can’t find a park because they have been taken for Cycleways. The same people who are to old to get on a bike. These people are the main users of a post office. It seems that NZ Post are ahead of the play. Wellington Council and Auckland Transport have just ignored the fact that the population is getting older.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:15am
- emmess
  
  What a moron.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:15am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Does Rongotai not have an RSA, a cafe, a bingo or bowls club, or a pub?
  Why do old people in Rongotai have to go to the Post Office for a chat?
  Paul Eagle is patronising old people if you ask me.
  Twat.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:24pm
Lee C

I have opined previously that Bridges has more about the Sroubek/Ardern affair than he’s been letting on, and Ardern, Peters and Mallard knew that – hence the concerted effort to run interference.
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December 13, 2018 8:05am
- Raphael
  
  it would explain why Labour’s word cloud for Bridges was “leaked” (and the timing of it).
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:23am
  - sooty
    
    Dirty politics by the left again!
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:29am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Dirty politics…..? Where is Hager the Horrible?….there is nothing to see here, the left don’t do dirty politics…didn’t you know (or get a text from the SLG)?……
      
      Or do they?
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:50am
- yossarian
  
  The old “Don’t ask the question, unless you already know the answer” rule..
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:28am
hmmokrightitis

Dear Chuck,

The very best insult you can throw at me is that I would have voted for Muldoon? Really? A hypothetical to match the fact that you voted for the deranged and aging liar?

Im way too young to have voted for a socialist like Muldoon. Besides, as noted, he was a socialist, more so than many labour PM’s.

If the best you can throw is that I may have done something, when you voted for a known and proven liar, well, Chucky, hang your head in shame.
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December 13, 2018 8:06am
- Nostradamus
  
  Hmmokrightitis:
  
  I think you’ll find that Chuck Bird directed his “You are a hero you anonymous fucktard. You probably would have voted for Muldoon.” comment at Thedavincimode. Chuck took offence at TDM’s “chuckie, I think he means you.” sting and unloaded!
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:19am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Noted Nostra, I bow to your superior and future knowledge, and withdraw. But hes still a muppet for voting for Winston 😀
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:22am
waikatogirl

When the PM hangs around with dogs she is bound to attract fleas.
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December 13, 2018 8:06am
- VicParking
  
  The PM is Hard to the Core and will bluster her way out of this using:
  The Duck
  The Xmas break
  Little Neve
  Can’t comment while the process is still in train.
  NZ is a small country and everybody knows everybody
  https://i1.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Hardcore-Ardern-crop.jpg?ssl=1
  Lies, lies and more lies
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:21am
  - DigNap15
    
    And the fact that the Herald and Stuff are not reporting it.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:31am
    - Happychappy
      
      The Herald was the only news media to report it up until after 7.00am this morning.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:42am
      - hullkiwi
        
        ZB & RNZ gave a slot to Paula Bennet, bit both tried to rubbish that their is a connection.
        
        Says it all as to how honest the MSM are, they’ll only come to the party when ever last detail is out in front of the public & there is no hiding.
        
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        December 13, 2018 8:55am
tas

It’s time to rethink name suppression laws, given that they are often unenforceable.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109294166/grace-millane-case-accuseds-name-searched-more-than-100000-times-on-google-despite-it-being-suppressed
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December 13, 2018 8:10am
- Jules99
  
  I suspect that the establishment really want global media suppression laws.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:52am
- Nermal
  
  I wasn’t bothered about who he was until I saw his name and other information about him was suppressed.
  
  Hello, hello, what’s up here then. Google……….
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:47pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
The various well attended vigils held throughout the country in memory of Grace Millane inform us just how out of touch many KB posters were in regard to this tragedy

.What a debacle busy trying to score cheap political shots directed either at the PM and the Col or fervent racial/ ethnic slurs against the name suppressed offender.

This whole sorry business not only says to the nation the endemic half or quarter half wittiery by our rabid alt right consigned as they to total irrelevancy as we move towards an otherwise happy if not somber Christmas .

Graces’s Dad rounds off by stating,

British backpacker Grace Millane will “forever be a Kiwi”, her father says, as he thanks New Zealand for “taking her into your hearts” following her death

Plus
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“David Millane released a statement on Wednesday evening, thanking the New Zealand public and police for their support…”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109304076/grace-millane-father-thanks-new-zealand-public-saying-she-will-always-be-a-kiwi

Says it all! Shame on those KB Posters for your total; and abject,” Fuckwiitery!”
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December 13, 2018 8:10am
- Brian Marshall
  
  As a father of a young lady in her middle teens, I find you perception of KB commentary to be wholely misunderstood and wrong.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:15am
  - Swifty
    
    He fancies himself as some sort of white knight; a latter day hero coming to spread his pearls before us swine.
    
    But in reality he’s just a very, very stupid and creepy man with some serious character flaws – and which he exhibits here daily.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:20am
    - sooty
      
      Yer and we all know what pearls they are, don’t we stooopid boy. You are that person in Kevin Bloody Wilsons song about goats!
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:33am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s a troll.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:52am
    - Jack5
      
      Actually a syndicate of trolls. Varying punctuation, tone, spelling, and style show a group, mostly of people for whom English has been a second language, use the “Stephieboy” pseudonym.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:49am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Do you actually try and make sense goaty? Thats a meaningless dribble, with no substance or base of fact. Can you try harder? Should we expect better from our trolls, or are you the best the alt-left has got?
  
  And, inquiring minds, does hanging out the back of a goat curdle its milk?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:18am
- Woz
  
  Like Brian, I have a daughter, a young woman heading out into the world. Like Brian, I find your appraisal of KB resondents’ attitudes to be miles off the mark. Offensive, moreover.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:24am
  - stephieboy
    
    Woz, note I stated,” some.”
    
    Not all.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:18am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      Woz, note I stated,” some.”
      Not all.
      
      No, you didn’t. The word “some” (or any word with a similar meaning) doesn’t appear anywhere in your original comment.
      
      The various well attended vigils held throughout the country in memory of Grace Millane inform us just how out of touch many KB posters were in regard to this tragedy … the endemic half or quarter half wittiery by our rabid alt right … Shame on those KB Posters for your total; and abject,” Fuckwiitery!”
      
      Once again you’ve been caught out lying.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:26am
    - Swifty
      
      Liar.
      
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      December 13, 2018 10:20am
- Nostradamus
  
  Stephieboy:
  
  we move towards an otherwise happy if not somber Christmas
  
  We need to discuss the possibility that you’ve bought a collection of Blow up Billy Goat sex toys for the nativity scene at St Albans, Ebay seems to have sold out of them!
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:27am
  - Swifty
    
    He’s bought the lot?
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:36am
    - sooty
      
      He’s into rough sex and needs some for backup!
      
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      December 13, 2018 12:04pm
- cmm
  
  What are you on about?
  
  The only point you seem to be making is that PriNZess was politically astute to milk this for the feelz.
  
  Nobody is saying this is not tragic. People want this bastard harshly dealt with. They feel sympathetic towards the grieving family.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, Grace’s father and family felt very differently!
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:18am
    - cmm
      
      “Grace’s father and family felt very differently!”
      
      Perhaps you could explain what you mean.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:22am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Don’t encourage it!!
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:29am
  - KevOB
    
    It was Ardern that turned it into a political spectacle and a hate fest against males–a Sroubek or airline strike diversion?
    
    Disrespectful in the extreme to the family and victim.
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:45am
- kowtow
  
  It’s just another media beat up ,will be forgotten by most in no time. From what I could see alot of the people attending the vigils were butch dyke male hating Green voters , it was their hashtag metoo moment of glory.
  
  I well recall a similar reaction from people to the g Coral Ellen Burrows murder in 2003 , well here we are in 2018 . And one big difference between then and now is that Labour and the Greens are more avowedly crim huggers than even then!
  
  So vigil , hashtag and light candles all you like.
  
  Me , I say bring back the noose.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:34am
  - cmm
    
    Sure, there are some sick bastards out there that will murder their Tinder date, but the real sick bastards are:
    * Those that use it for political gain.
    * Those that use it as a vehicle for man hating.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:05am
    - GoVege
      
      Don’t be daft, cmm.
      It’s true there are quite a few screwed up females out there who are anti-male, and for years the women’s refuges were run by them.
      But this not about “man-hating”.
      It’s about challenging the disrespectful attitudes to women that are behind a lot of violence against women.
      
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      December 13, 2018 1:07pm
  - freethinker
    
    Wait until the French reinstate Madame Guillotine and if successful just buy some.
    
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    December 13, 2018 12:32pm
  - GoVege
    
    At least Coral Burrows’ killer was on drugs and is so ashamed of his horrific crime, he doesn’t want to be released.
    What this country needs to face is the everyday family violence that breaks up families, and means that Kiwi kids do not have a dad around to perform his main function in life: protecting his children.
    
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    December 13, 2018 1:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You, stephieboy, are the one person on this blog that has never expressed sympathy for the women and families that have suffered at the hands of gangs of sex abusers.
  
  In fact you have repeatedly denied that such abuse occurred and then you have accused me of being a racist for even mentioning these gangs.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:39am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Stephie – I have nothing but the deepest respect for David Millane for having been able to show such grace in what must be the most traumatic time for him and his family. I doubt if I could be so gracious in the same situation.
  
  At around the same time as I was escorting my daughter down the aisle last Saturday, Mr Millane was being told by New Zealand Police that his daughter had been murdered. He will never get to experience the same joy with Grace that I experienced with my daughter on a gorgeous North Canterbury day. I cannot even begin to imagine the pain he must be suffering.
  
  Kia kaha Millane whanau.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:04am
  - KevOB
    
    I feel for the victim and family too. My youngest daughter turned 17, 3 months ago and last week became engaged. She is unstoppable and now we have the excitement of wedding planning.
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:52am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  What sort of fuckwit mispells ‘fuckwittery’
  
  Tsk tsk.
  
  LOL!
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:35am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Stuffy the Rape-Denier’s opinions on these matters are irrelevant.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:27am
DigNap15

I just emailed Audrey Young from the Herald and told her about the latest Shrubrek developments.
Ha Ha

Now to do Barry Sober.
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December 13, 2018 8:10am
- Brian Marshall
  
  Lol. That’s so funny DigNap. Would they even know they’re being trolled.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:17am
  - DigNap15
    
    I just emailed Tracey Watkins of stuff with a news scoop for he about Hardcore and Ardern, complete with photos from Whaleoil last night.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:30am
    - oldgolfer
      
      Well done.
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:50am
- LTA1955
  
  You cannot ever suggest that Barry Soper will provide balanced script, he’s totally compromised by his Marxist bias. The sneering English accent is the giveaway.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:28am
  - Jack5
    
    “Sneering English accent”?????
    
    Barely Sober is from Gore, in Southland. His speech with the “ai” sound for “I” or “eye”, an affectation which Soper shares with Jim Bolger, is likely the result of a pompous elocution teacher destroying his Southland accent.
    
    Talking of accents, do you notice that Jacinderella suffers from rhotacism? She can’t or won’t pronounce the letter “r”. She speaks of “pahties” instead of “parties”.
    
    Many Kiwis north of, about, Timaru, suffer from this speech defect.
    
    The great illustration:
    
    https://youtu.be/kx_G2a2hL6U
    
    The technical view:
    
    http://www.sayitright.org/articulation/entireworldofr.html
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:01am
    - LTA1955
      
      Maybe he overeggs it!
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:53am
cmm

It seems weird to me that Sroubek’s mate with the pornstar name is also a major player in the whole White Ribbon thing as well as being an anti-drugs campaigner (taxpayer funded from what I can make out).

Why would an anti-violence campaigner go into bat for a bloke who’s ex-wife is so fearful she is hidden away; a bloke who has faced aggravated robbery charges?

Why would an anti-drugs campaigner go into bat for a bloke who is in pokey for selling drugs?

But he’s also a Pol Sci grad, so I suppose we shouldn’t expect it to make sense.
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December 13, 2018 8:14am
- Longknives
  
  Remember a few years ago there was that gang (name escapes me right now) who was doing heaps of ‘do gooder’ stuff in the Community and claiming to be ‘Anti-Drugs’ etc etc?
  Then it turned out they were as bad as the rest of them and were on a massive recruiting drive!
  
  Things aren’t always as they seem…
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:17am
  - cmm
    
    Jamie Pink’s Tribal Huk gang?
    
    Yup it would seem they were mainly just dealing to the competition.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:21am
  - Jules99
    
    Just like with paedophiles – attracted to place where you find children, e.g. schools and social services. And of course good people often are slow to realise that there is evil in their midst. That why you need hard nosed realists not kind unicorn fairies running things.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:55am
- Classic Liberal
  
  “Why would an anti-drugs campaigner go into bat for a bloke who is in pokey for selling drugs?”
  
  Seems totally logical to me: makework.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:37am
secondcumming

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Does *Grant Robertson* eat CURRY for dinner?

[Chris Bishop would like to know…….]

https://twitter.com/cjbishop/status/1071138408917946368
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December 13, 2018 8:14am
- Woz
  
  Grant Robertson munches pillows – that’s a matter of public record.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:39am
  - sooty
    
    Probably going to be Labours next PM, when the Comrade is knifed!
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:53am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      That’s the end of Labour then. Bloody good job.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:07am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Sooty:
      
      Probably going to be Labours next PM
      
      And then this video will get another airing!
      
      Grant’s brought me to the very place where he first met his partner Alf. But someone’s missing.
      
      Q: Where is Alf?
      Grant: Well, um, he’s not here tonight. Ah, he’s actually got, um, a few other things on.
      Q: You’re not hiding him, are you?
      Grant: No, no I’m not.
      
      Is that true Grant? Because there’s Alf. We didn’t realise that was Alf when we were filming … and he was there the whole time Grant.
      
      Oh dear!
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:12am
oldpark

Not a surprise. Yesterday i had the bad luck to turn on Newstalkzb in Wellington. There was a woman known as HDPA. Putting the boot into Air New Zealand because they had the gall to stand up to a back to the future type of the 1970s bully boy trade union. Yes the flap jaw pie face clown went into a vicious vitriol type of dressing down of Air New Zealand that they had the temerity to address the E-TU and hadn’t immediately buckled to the circa $150,000 earning engineers. Yes the same blood suckers who live off the paying public and get subsidised air fares up to 90% as well.Not forgetting holding the multi thousand air line passengers to ransom.Seems by now the bully boy knee capping tactics of E-TU have been satisfied.
All Air New Zealand were doing was trying to run a business. Wonder how pie-face HDPA would fare if all advertisers pulled their support of the station Newstalkzb that unfortunately has employed her.Makes one wonder how all of us survived in Wellington before flap jaw pie-face HDPA turned up to work for Newstalkzb. She has become a total embarrassment for the station with her daily flap jaw out of control rants attacking any unfortunates who cross her path.
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December 13, 2018 8:18am
- Brian Marshall
  
  She’s a broken clock, oldpark. Right about twice a day, but worthless the rest of the time. Sadly we’re losing Leighton Smith after today. Despite being in Wellington, I would stream the Auckland morning ZB channel rather than listen to the piss weak Wellington offerings.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:31am
  - secondcumming
    
    You think HDPA’s bad?
    
    Wait until *Kerry Woodham* fills Leighton’s spot 🙁
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:35am
    - Cobolt24
      
      Kerry is alright as a person but, it’ll be a big downgrade compared to Leighton’s show which challenged the mainstream narrative.
      
      I’ll probably stop listening to the Auckland stream online in the morning now unfortunately.
      
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      December 13, 2018 10:03am
      - secondcumming
        
        aGREEd.
        
        Kerry Woodham or Mark Sainsbury?
        
        *ALAN JONES 2GB*.
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:58am
stoptheboats

So AirNZ have caved in to union thuggery and blackmail.No surprises there, because of their market dominance ticket prices will simply be jacked up again to pay for it
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December 13, 2018 8:18am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I’d like to have seen them resist the unions and take the strike and piss the public off, and then reduce their offer!
  Fuck the unions
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:28am
- VicParking
  
  Please explain “market dominance”, certainly not international and domestic we have Jetstar and Chathams???…..I was going to go by boat but some dick stopped them.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:29am
- srylands
  
  They only have market dominance on many regional routes.
  
  I have been a loyal Air New Zealand customer for a long time but I’m thinking of giving up. The Koru lounge is attractive but even that is getting stale. I swear they have not changed the cheese selection or the Moroccan chick pea dish since 2000. Last week the Auckland lounge was packed and had out of control kids.
  
  Air NZ did many things right, eg fleet selection. But they are going stale imo.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:03am
- PhilP
  
  Simon Bridges on HDPA’s ZB show yesterday said he was 75% sure the strike would be called off before 21st Dec. Give that man a beer!
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:43am
Notsofast

The more we drill into the appeal court judgement of Mark Lundy the more dire are emerging the consequences for the judiciary, the police, and the government.
This is by a long stretch the most comprehensively flawed legal decision in New Zealand history.
Deleting this post will not remove the underlying truth.
“We are sure of Mr Lundy’s guilt” is an indelible closing statement, and an indelible stain on our country.
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December 13, 2018 8:33am
- lifesgood
  
  Morning Mark. A quiet morning in pokey is it?
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:47am
Nostradamus

Deleting this post will not remove the underlying truth.

[Notsofast was here!]
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December 13, 2018 8:40am
Woz

Is there a more smart-arse, smug, uppity know-all than Hilary Barry? In order, please.
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December 13, 2018 8:46am
- sooty
  
  Hillary Barry.
  Hillary Barry.
  Hillary Barry.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:59am
- secondcumming
  
  Not too bad for an oldie…..certainly in the ‘cougar category’
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:07pm
Keeping Stock

This line from the Herald story about Richie Hardcore’s text to the Prime Minister cuts right to the heart of the matter:

In a September 2014 photo, he called Ardern “one of the smartest, coolest & compassionate people I’m lucky enough to call a friend.”

It’s clear that Hardcore, Ardern and probably Gayford have been friends for some time. They hang in the same circles. Hardcore particpated in Ardern’s campaign launch when she contested the Mt Albert by-election, and campaigned alongside her during last year’s General Election.

Frankly, this doesn’t pass the sniff test. In politics, perception is everything, as Barry Soper has opined in this morning’s Herald. No doubt, his piece was penned before last night’s revelation about Hardcore and Ardern.

And the perception is that Ardern knew a damn sight more about the Sroubek case than she has previously admitted. There is a strong suspicion that she has misled Parliament, and if that is the case, she needs to front up today and make a Prime Ministerial statement correcting the record.
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December 13, 2018 8:56am
- waikatogirl
  
  Read between the lines people… It is crystal clear Cindy and Hardcore are friends.
  
  Cindy – Liar, liar, pants on fire!
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  December 13, 2018 9:07am
  - KevOB
    
    There is a suggestion that Ardern and mate were friends of Sroubek.
    
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    December 13, 2018 12:02pm
- septic skeptic
  
  My guess is that Ardern won’t admit to what happened, nor what we think we know. She will admit to what she thinks can be proved against her.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:22am
- kowtow
  
  I had never heard of this guy so googled him.
  
  These people all move in the same circles . Journo girl friend , Kim Vinnell and Dai Henwood pal …..
  
  This is the “Aotearoa” bubble world of insiders .
  
  From the Herald article , unrelated to the Sroubek affair.
  
  ‘ I had some of like New Zealand’s top politicians and leading journalists privately message me and say, ‘I’m really sorry about what happened to you, but I can’t say that publicly, because I’m scared of being caught up in it.’ People are really scared of social media backlash, man.’
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11615406
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:44am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Yeah so It looks like Kim Vinell (ex tv3 reporter) (who appeared on the project with Duncan Garner and Heather Du Plessis Allen), is Richie Hardcores recent ex. His new girlfriend is another ex tv 3 reporter is described in an article as best friends with Samantha Hayes. And when you add into that small circle the PM and her Media husband. And also the PM’s bodyguard linked to another political reporter. So yes it’s an extremely small circle of insiders, and the current Hardcore news is about people who are linked to their media work colleagues. Maybe that’s why getting to the bottom of the story is such a low priority.
    
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    December 14, 2018 9:31am
Fletch

I know I am late to the party on this, but I just watched the whole video of the Trump Whitehouse meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

Very, very smart. Trump ran for office on the back of the promise of the wall being built, It’s still not built (an unfulfilled campaign promise) but now the public can see exactly who is holding up the wall from being built. Trump is pulling out the big guns and threatening to shut down the government if it isn’t funded and taking full responsibility for a shutdown. I reckon that is what the people who voted for him would want – for him to put his foot down.

It’s apparent that it is only Democrats that are stopping it. They are the ones who want open borders and to shut down ICE. As I said, Trump has demonstrated this very clearly by being “transparent” and debating part of this in the most public way possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mirZE-wYr4

Awesome. And these Dems are the same people who were probably happy that the caravan almost entered the U.S. You just can’t have that though.
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December 13, 2018 8:57am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I watched it on the news last night, then heard Sen. Schumer being quoted as saying Trump has thrown a “temper tantrum”.
  
  Sure, Trump stood up to Schumer and Pelosi, and gave them an ultimatum. But a “temper tantrum”? Not on your life.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:06am
- Urban Redneck
  
  The Dems need a permanent underclass of people dependent on government as voters, just like the Labour Party in NZ does. The GOP donors want a permanent pool of what they hope will be cheap labour flooding into the country, just like the National Party in NZ does.
  
  Shot by both sides.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:12am
thedavincimode

Woz (8:46 am), you raise a very important point that appears to have been overlooked. Surely it must be time to call for nominations for Cunt of the Year.

I think there should be two categories: Domestic and International, with an overall top prize of Grand Cunt Global.

Given prevailing usage of the term, persons of any gender should qualify in either category and besides, having fifteen gender categories in order to cater for gender identity would result in a somewhat unwieldy 31 awards.
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December 13, 2018 8:58am
- rightoverlabour
  
  That’s going to be difficult
  
  We have
  Cunt Twatford for KiwiNoBuild
  Cunt Sleaze Galloway for KiwiYesCrim
  Cunt Angry Andy for KiwiNoEntry
  Cunt Chippy Fuckface for KiwiNoPay
  Cunt Porno Jones for KiwiN0Plant(but Mulch)
  Cunt Drunken Dwarf for enabling this rabble
  and of course
  Cunt Silly Little Girl for KiwiNoTruth
  
  A very difficult choice.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:31am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    There’s only one contender for C*nt of the Year, and that’s Marama Davidison. Her citation will record that she achieved the award for “reclaiming the word” 😀
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:45am
Nostradamus

NZ users search name of Millane’s accused more than 50,000 times

Computer users in New Zealand have searched for the identity of the 26-year-old man accused of murdering Grace Millane more than 50,000 times, Google statistics show. Search giant Google also emailed the name to anyone signed up to its “what’s trending in New Zealand” email.

Andrew Little weighs in:

Justice Minister Andrew Little has rebuked UK media for naming the murder accused, warning their actions risk jeopardising a fair trial, which could heap more misery on the grieving Millane family. … The naming of the man, which has also happened in social media, could be used to argue that he won’t get a fair trial, Little said.

First, it’s not Andrew Little’s place to lecture UK media. Second, for anyone who’s interested, I heard this 7-minute interview last week. It relates to a cold-case that’s been reopened after 26 million people downloaded a podcast, and new information came to light. The person interviewed, who’s a professor of law, discusses the “fair trial” issues in relation to this case in some detail. He points out that a judge-alone trial would be the obvious legal mechanism to address any perceived unfairness.

I think similar arguments could be made in this case – if (which I doubt – at least on current information) the accused man can establish that he’s been deprived of a right to a fair trial. I think Andrew Little’s witterings on this matter are unnecessary and unhelpful.
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December 13, 2018 9:01am
- realityczech
  
  He has a right to elect trial by jury. Due to the pervasive public hysteria of the mindless masses, created by their media masters, the chances of a fair trial are now zero.
  
  It will be a valuable lesson if he walks free, assuming he did it.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:06am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    He doesn’t, actually. A charge of murder will have been laid indictably, so trial by jury is automatic, not by election.
    
    However if his lawyers believe that he cannot get a fair trial, he could apply to have the case heard by a judge alone.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:08am
    - realityczech
      
      True, but that changes nothing.
      
      The public perception is guilty, based entirely on their emotive reaction created by the media. Not a shred of evidence is known.
      
      Weirdly these virtue signalling morons don’t perform like this when a young Maori is murdered, even though they are by far the most likely to die.
      
      Remarkable.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:16am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, emotive reaction created by the media??
        
        More likely the consequences of half-baked and half-witted posts closer to home here on KB!
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy…
        like your half-baked, half-witted posts about this case.
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/12/general_debate_9_december_2018.html#comment-2377978
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:54am
      - KevOB
        
        There is no evidence whatsoever about the suspect in custody. Such people have sometimes been released when Police are more advanced in their investigations.
        
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        December 13, 2018 12:09pm
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Assuming, of course, that this is in fact a murder and he goes to trial for murder.
      
      The body has, according to reports, been released to the family.
      
      This seems to be rather hasty. Does the suppression cover all the facts?
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:18am
      - realityczech
        
        Yes Tinny you are thinking clearly.
        
        We don’t know anything and that is my point. She may not have even been deliberately killed. We just don’t know.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:36am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I don’t think it’s at all hasty MT. In cases where the coroner is involved (sudden deaths, accidents, homicides etc), every effort is made to complete the post mortem as quickly as possible. Once that has been done, and relevant samples taken for evidential purposes, there is no reason why the body cannot be released provided the cause of death has been established by the pathologist to the satisfaction of the coroner.
        
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        December 13, 2018 9:41am
Poppa

Dear Cindy

I believe it is time that you fronted up on the drug runner case. You have been very economical with the truth & may have misled parliament which is not good.

I think it is high time you were honest with the boss(that’s me by the way) and tell me the truth

Cheers
Poppa
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December 13, 2018 9:04am
- cmm
  
  PS: While you’re being open and honest, give us the whole can of beans on Handley too.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Poopa, all because she received an unsolicited text which she and her office ignored?
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:40am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Show us the text! Jacinda. Why did she obfuscate in the house and not answer that she had links with Hardcore when the questions had been asked. Why did she not front. Do you think Hardcore just texted her out of the blue to congratulate her on the Sroubek decision if she didn’t know who Sroubek was and had nothing to do with it. Liar! Release the texts. Release the documents on who made representations the public deserves to know.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:57am
  - Poppa
    
    My money is on her replying Stephie. Why would she not?
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:59am
    - cmm
      
      She replied last time she “didn’t reply”, so I suspect she did this time too.
      
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      December 13, 2018 10:23am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    No moron, because she backed ILG and his decision not to deport. The only reason ILG made such a fuck up is that he was under instruction to do so. That’s why NLB and Winny supported him ( although not knowing much about the case /sarc). This hopefully will bring this corrupt, rotten government down
    
    Fucking tossers and their supporters like you
    
    now, fuck off before I add you to my list of Cunts.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:36am
Chuck Bird

I wonder how long Cindy has had her current mobile number. I would think she would have changed it after becoming leader and then PM. I doubt if any PM would give their mobile number to aquantencies.
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December 13, 2018 9:07am
- thedavincimode
  
  Why not just call Win and find out from him if this is troubling you? He ought to know. She probably texts him in cabinet meetings to wake him up discretely.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:13am
- stephieboy
  
  Chuck Bird, maybe the PM’s office does have a mobile contact.
  
  I would think so in this day and age!
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:59am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    You do have a knack for making Missing the Point an art form. I suppose it’s the hours of training.
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:00pm
Scooter

So she’s off the hook by saying she didn’t reply to the text, how many times will she use that excuse?
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December 13, 2018 9:11am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Maybe Simon should be asked if she has access to a burner phone.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:14am
- cmm
  
  Except last time (Handley) the thread from Handley shows that she clearly did reply.
  
  So why should we believe her this time?
  
  Fool me once, shame on you; fool me trice, shame on me!
  
  Anyone that believes anything she says is a fool.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:18am
thedavincimode

urgh
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December 13, 2018 9:12am
secondcumming

Could this be another worrying development for Labor?

My missus, (an ED Nurse), was home yesterday afternoon, and took the opportunity to watch *Question Time*.

She was actually quite concerned about the health and wellness of *Megan Woods*.
When the camera showed her sitting next to Phil Twyford, she appeared to have completely passed out!

https://vimeo.com/305869068
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December 13, 2018 9:20am
- Fletch
  
  Maybe someone slipped her a mickey in her water?
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:22am
- Longknives
  
  Sausage Roll Coma?
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:30am
- Nostradamus
  
  Secondcumming
  
  she appeared to have completely passed out!
  
  Perhaps she was counting ~~sheep~~ pies and thinking happy thoughts in her sleep? 🙂
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:39am
- oldgolfer
  
  Oh dear dear dear
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:55am
- cmm
  
  That’s what earning $500/hr looks like.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:26am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Be fair, I saw her eyes blink. Probably the only exercise she does (other than lifting food to her maw and chewing).
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:34am
- Paulus
  
  Woods
  Nah ! she was sleeping off her liquid lunch.
  
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  December 13, 2018 1:58pm
Fletch

Great, now a group has started a petition to bring cuzzie-bro Santa to Wellington.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/12/a-bid-to-bring-maori-santa-to-wellington-gains-momentum.html

Idiots.
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December 13, 2018 9:20am
- Classic Liberal
  
  How about both? A traditionally-dressed Santa and this one.
  
  Kids can pick which one they believe is real.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:54am
Dave Mann

Fuck it. New Zealand could really use a political party which came out and actively opposed all this climate change, anti-plastic, Islamisation, open borders, anti industry, anti-whites, homosexual, transgender, vegan, pro-criminal bullshit.

What is the future for our county if something isn’t done to reverse our decline soon?
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December 13, 2018 9:22am
- realityczech
  
  They are controlled by the media. Just as you are with your hatred of Muslims. You have fallen prey to the insightful techniques perfected by Joseph Goebbels.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:29am
- stephieboy
  
  Dave Mann , you start the ball rolling with a tiny beginnings 0.0001 % support base!
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:33am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Counted your uptick:downtick ration recently?
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:02pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Dave, depends on what you mean by ‘actively oppose’ homosexual and transgender.
  
  Do you mean: equal rights before the law, but if people want to change their gender they can pay for it themselves (should be plenty of keen donors).
  
  Or do you want to bring back illegality?
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:58am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I mean the former…. but with the proviso that whilst it’s ethical to allow individual choice it’s also unhealthy to actively promote homosexuals, lesbians and transgender people as icons to be glorified and held up as lifestyle role models.
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:33am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It’s unhealthy to actively promote lifestysles (such as smoking and excessive drug taking) that have a statistically significantly higher rate of premature death.
      
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      December 13, 2018 4:17pm
dime

Why are so many lefties dishonest about their polticial leanings?

are they ashamed???

the head of Google getting grilled today and he’s saying there is no bias at google LMAO

Left wing media saying – of course there is no bias!

like, what in the actual fuck??? just own it. you have a bias/ agenda.

I have no worries saying – yeah Fox is to the right. talk radio in the US is to the right. decent rating talkback in NZ is to the right.

Just constant lying with these socialist fucks.

none of them will be happy until we have eaten our dogs and queue for toilet paper
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December 13, 2018 9:35am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  dime,
  
  “Just constant lying with these socialist fucks.”
  
  Your President has never told a lie?
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:43am
  - dime
    
    i dont have a president dipshit. i live in NZ.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:59am
- realityczech
  
  Meanwhile Google employees have come out and told media that they were told to edit and remove search results.
  
  In fact Google is very open about this, but have made up a story that they are removing “fake news”
  
  The editing of Google is at absurd levels now. I use multiple unedited engines for any serious research.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:44am
  - dime
    
    yeah man, same. i dont trust google at all
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:59am
    - Fletch
      
      Yup, I been using DuckDuckGo search engine for the past couple of years. Google has finally caved and let them have the duck.com address.
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:32am
    - realityczech
      
      Google have been developing new tools to access the highly censored Chinese market. They are using those tools to censor the Western searches.
      
      Try this one: http://www.gibiru.com/
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:40am
- Cobolt24
  
  Just today there’s an article on Stuff about if you search “idiot” on Google pictures of Trump show up, that’s mostly left wing hyperpartisan sites which have skewed image searches, pointless making articles about it, it just shows their bias if we didn’t know it already.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:10am
Maggy Wassilieff

On the 7th November, Michael Woodhouse asked ILG whether the following 3 people had made representations in favour of Karel Sroubek:

Alex Swny
Richie Hardcore
John Sinclair

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/document/HansS_20181107_051750000/5-question-no-5-immigration

Why have the PM and ILG been so evasive about this matter?

She and ILG have taken 6 weeks to acknowledge that there is a personal connection between the PM and Richie Hardcore.

It’s probably not unexpected that she also knows John Sinclair, husband of the prominent lawyer Mai Chen.

How much influence did the PM’s personal connections play in ILG’s decision to grant Drug-importer Sroubek residency?
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December 13, 2018 9:39am
- stephieboy
  
  MW, anyone has the right to make representations to the PM no matter under what government.
  
  And any PM ( as appears in the case here ) have every right to ignore such unsolicited same!
  
  Correct?
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:46am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    MW
    
    Why do you think that Maggy wants to be addressed by a perverted man who asked her for her underwear size?
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:48am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Nostradamus, are you MW’s personal spokesman holding on her behalf Power of Attorney?
      
      Obviously asking whether she wore Victorian undergarments was said in jest!
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:53am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        are you MW’s personal spokesman holding on her behalf Power of Attorney?
        
        No. I’ve always let Maggy express her own views. My views about your perverted comments on Kiwiblog are my own.
        
        Obviously asking whether she wore Victorian undergarments was said in jest!
        
        And, for the second time on this thread, you’ve lied about what you’ve said. First, your exact words were “MW, what sized undergarments do you wear?” You didn’t ask “whether she wore Victorian undergarments. Second, as I’ve said before, you didn’t make any connection with Victorian-era clothing. You simply posted a link to some obscure website and left the reader to infer for themselves whatever point (in your mind) you were trying to make.
        
        It’s time for you to take responsibility for your behaviour.
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:02am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy,
        
        Obviously asking whether she wore Victorian undergarments was said in jest!
        
        No, it was not obvious that it was WRITTEN in jest.
        
        I have shared no moment of humour with you.
        
        Your behaviour on this blog is repugnant and sexually deviant, as far as I am concerned.
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:07am
  - MrTips
    
    Stephie: not everyone has the PMs cellphone and would text happily about a convicted drug dealer being granted unwarranted residency.
    
    And you are a fine one to be talking about representations…..most of which would be unsolicited and ignored at St Lukes and on here.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:50am
    - stephieboy
      
      Mr Tips, all I know the text was unsolicited which the PM and her office did not respond.
      
      Maybe Hardcore asked her office or there is a cellphone contact for the same in this day and age.
      
      Have a look, oaf!
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:56am
      - cmm
        
        “all I know”
        
        You **know** this?
        
        You are sufficiently connected with the PM and her office to **know** this?
        
        I take it you also have her number in your contact list.
        
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        December 13, 2018 10:19am
      - sooty
        
        My. You are well connected for a troll. Does she txt or phone often?
        
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        December 13, 2018 12:14pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    anyone has the right to make representations to the PM
    
    Do you have a comprehension problem?
    
    We are not talking about representations to the PM.
    
    We are talking about representations to the Minister of Immigration about a convicted drug importer and Fraudster.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:01am
  - tknorriss
    
    Stephie: “MW, anyone has the right to make representations to the PM no matter under what government.”
    
    Yes they do. And if that is where it begins and ends then, fine. But, surely, if that were the case, then Ardern would have been quite upfront and released the text to preempt any suspicion, being part of the most open and honest government ever.
    
    But the amount of obfuscating by the PM and ILG over this makes me think otherwise.
    
    We know that the PM, her partner, and other prominent Labour people hang around with Hardcore. We know that Hardcore was mates with Sroubek. So, reading between the lines, why shouldn’t we make the leap that the PM, her partner, and other Labour people also knew Sroubek?
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:06am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Fuck off.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:38am
Chris2

How does the text to Ardern from Hardcore fit in with this story in November in which she states he first heard about the residency decision via the media:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108416607/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-found-out-about-karel-sroubek-decision-through-the-media
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December 13, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
  Chris2, refer to my above post for clues.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:48am
MrTips

This Sroubek thing is revealing. The article by Braunis in the Herald revealed that Hardcore is linked to politicians and media folk – heavily linked.

Like I’ve said before: the media re part of this as they will have been clients of Sroubek. The Hell’s Angels did not get to where they are by being stupid. For what other reason would Stuff not even have ONE article on this?

As I suggested before, give National a hand by OIA requests for emails or texts between media reporters and Cindy, Robertson, Cullan and Mallard.
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December 13, 2018 9:47am
- stephieboy
  
  Mr Tips,
  
  “..give National a hand by OIA requests for emails or texts between media reporters and Cindy, Robertson, Cullan and Mallard.”
  
  You start the ball rolling and begin chasing ghosts
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:50am
  - MrTips
    
    LOL. You have no idea what I’ve found out. Balls indeed.
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:52am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I did wonder how naive Braunais is:
  
  “I said, “Am I making you nervous? You seem very nervous. You’re bumping into things, you’re talking too much.”
  
  He said, “No! That’s par for the course. That’s just how I am. Like, I fluctuate between being really animated, and melancholic and morose.””
  
  Isn’t that curious behaviour from a martial arts exponent and yoga practitioner.
  Most folk wouldn’t have asked about nervousness, rather ‘Man, what are you on?’
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:35am
Poppa

I think it is becoming very clear that poor old Sleaze was told what decision to make & made to carry the can for it.

For his trouble he has looked like a fool
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December 13, 2018 9:47am
secondcumming

A few months ago, my dopey brother-in-law decided to take up *Sky Diving*.
He was telling us last night that this weekend he will be doing his first *solo jump*……the excitement and anxiety were palpable!

Trying to put his mind at rest, I said, “The thing to remember if your parachute doesn’t deploy, don’t panic! You’ve got the rest of your life to fix it”.
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December 13, 2018 9:51am
iMP

Theresa MAY just survived by 200/117.
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December 13, 2018 10:05am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Quite surprising given lack of support for her amongst Conservative party and voters. MP’s obviously have a different view of what is right or what they need to do to survive – or they just really hate Boris.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:29am
  - artemisia
    
    Any leadership contenders prefer Ms May to hang on to the poisoned chalice.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:53am
Manolo

I hate smoking, but this is nothing short of totalitarian behaviour:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/act-lashes-out-over-proposed-smoking-at-home-ban/ar-BBQRvsP

Labour’s Louisa Wall made the suggestion to Newshub on Wednesday, saying it could be the next step after banning smoking in cars with children.

“I’d like to see smoking, from my perspective, banned at home.”
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December 13, 2018 10:09am
- srylands
  
  I’d like to see it banned on the streets in city centres. But people can do what they want in their homes. God imagine if dope smoking was banned at home?
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:15am
- dime
  
  that is a massive attack on property rights. these people are disgusting.
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:01am
srylands

I have been receiving a few emails lately with a new twist.

In the signature block some folk are providing gender type pronouns.

E. G.

Jo Bloggs (him/he)
Marketing Manager

Mary Bloggs (she/her)
Principal Scientist

I assume we could have

Keryn Smith (they/it)
Chief Executive

I’m not worried about it. It just surprised me. Is everyone else experiencing this change or is it just me?
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December 13, 2018 10:10am
- graham
  
  That’s a new one on me, I haven’t received any emails with that sort of sign-off.
  
  Government departments?
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:29am
  - srylands
    
    Yes
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:30pm
Manolo

The Left, the manipulative and despicable Left:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/12/gilets-jaunes-protests-strasbourg-shooting-calls-end

French government ministers have appealed for the nationwide gilets jaunes protests to stop in the wake of the Strasbourg attack.
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December 13, 2018 10:12am
- DigNap15
  
  The yellow vests should double their protests until Macron sends all muslims home.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:17am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    most of the Muslims in France were born there. It’s an impossible problem.
    
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    December 13, 2018 10:26am
    - Jack5
      
      Sad, brutal, and not to be desired, UrbanNeocolonist, but frequently such issues have been settled by mass expulsion.
      
      Edward 1 expelled Jews from England in 1290 and they weren’t allowed back until Cromwell’s time.
      
      Muslims were force-converted in Spain early in the 16th century, and earlier Jews were expelled.
      
      Stalin repeatedly expelled ethnic minorities from their homelands, including the Crimean Tatars and the Chechens.
      
      The Soviet Union expelled East Prussians it hadn’t already murdered, and millions of Germans were expelled from Poland, Czechslovakia, and other countries at the end of World War 2.
      
      Several million Muslims were expelled in the partition of India, and non-Muslims were expelled in the other direction.
      
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      December 13, 2018 10:35am
      - DigNap15
        
        And, not an explusion, but a League of Nations sanctioned population swap.
        
        Lots of Greeks in Turkey were sent to Greece, and lots of Turks in Greece were sent to Turkey, soon after the First World War.
        
        Swap a house for a house!
        And it helped make both countries more homogenous, and also probably saved many lives due to possible ethnic warfare.
        
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        December 13, 2018 11:28am
      - Jack5
        
        The Greek-Turk settlement wasn’t so peaceful. Several hundred thousand Greeks died. The Greeks had been in Turkey for 3500 years, compared with the arrival of Turks in Turkey from Central Asia from about 1500 years ago.
        
        This, from Wikipedia:
        
        … the International Association of Genocide Scholars passed a resolution in 2007 recognising the Ottoman campaign against Christian minorities of the Empire, including the Greeks, as genocide.
        
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        December 13, 2018 11:44am
    - DigNap15
      
      Maybe half of them were born there.
      Many fought for France in the First World War!
      
      I still say that Muslims don’t belong in Western Countries.
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:25am
Jack5

The Christmas air strike is off, and the guy announcing it, the head of the aviation section of that union, doesn’t have an English accent.

A number of posters in the last few days claimed this dispute was led by “Pommy stirrers” of the types in the unions back in th 1960s.

Hey guys, were you trying to divert attention from the Sinicisation of the Auckland branches of the National Party? Look! There’s a squirrel!

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/378135/air-new-zealand-engineers-strike-called-off
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December 13, 2018 10:26am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Maybe common sense has triumphed?
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:32am
- macdee
  
  They changed the Pom because of the bad image his accent created, took NZers back to the 70s and pommy led union disrupters
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:39am
Manolo

Invaders turned blackmailers:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/caravan-migrants-in-mexico-demand-trump-either-let-them-in-u-s-or-pay-them-50000-each-to-go-back-home

Two groups of Central American migrants marched to the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana on Tuesday with a list of demands, with one group delivering an ultimatum to the Trump administration: either let them in the U.S. or pay them $50,000 each to go home, a report said.

Among other demands were that deportations be halted and that asylum seekers be processed faster and in greater numbers, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.
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December 13, 2018 10:43am
- Classic Liberal
  
  LOL, good luck with that, invaders!
  
  They must be mixing him up with Merkel…
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:08am
- mandk
  
  Excellent.
  This makes it absolutely clear that they are not refugees.
  
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  December 13, 2018 12:47pm
Jack5

Australia’s deportation of law breakers to New Zealand reaches a new peak: it’s sending us an Aboriginal.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/378154/deportation-of-aboriginal-man-from-australia-ridiculous
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December 13, 2018 10:44am
- Manolo
  
  stephieboy will be happy to show him around Mt Roskill. For sure.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:58am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Red Radio lightly skimmed over the fact that he is a domestic violence crim. and interviewed him going on about how ‘ridiculous’ it all is.
  
  I don’t want the creep in NZ, but he’s no wee angel who should get his way. Who knows if his family even want him around?
  
  And good on Oz for sticking to *their* rules.
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:13am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Time we adopted the same rule.
    Fit in or F off
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:15pm
- cmm
  
  Well he is a half Oz/ half NZ born here. That would make him a NZ citizen.
  
  He was entitled to apply for Oz citizenship, but can’t any more because he fails the good character test:
  https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship/become-a-citizen/by-descent
  
  Crims: sort yout citizenship out BEFORE you offend. Is it really that hard?
  
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  December 13, 2018 1:11pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    These boys really are not smart enough to do that.
    
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    December 13, 2018 6:39pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The convicted fellow is not majority Aboriginal, he (probably) doesn’t speak in the language of his ancestral Gunggari tribe, and he doesn’t live in an Abroriginal community; moreover, he hasn’t bothered to take Australian citizenship.
  
  He will have to be deported to NZ.
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:25pm
Dave Mann

Please will somebody in the National party’s strategy team read this. Please.

Despite the Peters-appointed puppet government making huge fuck ups on a weekly basis, the media in NZ are largely failing to hold Ardern and her cronies to account and something needs to be done, especially as National seems to lack anyone with genuine clarity of communication and media appeal.

I suggest therefore that a high profile spoof billboard campaign be embarked on using the key word ‘Absoludely’ in parody of Adern’s speaking style. Here are some examples:

NZ doesn’t need an oil & gas industry. Absoludely.

Convicted drug dealers are a great benefit to NZ. Absoludely.

The proper place for criminals is living next door to you, not in prisons. Absoludely.

The seas are rising and we’re all going to drown. Absoludely.

Rising petrol prices are totally the fault of the evil gas companies. Absoludely.

Plastic bags must be banned for the sake of the turtles. Absoludely.

There are 57 genders. Absoludely.

….. and so on.

I haven’t got the money to do this, unfortunately. But I’ve got a history in advertising and I know for sure that it would achieve cut-through.

Perhaps if the Nats are too gutless to do something like this, somebody else who cares about our future would take up the challenge?
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December 13, 2018 11:13am
- Dave Mann
  
  EDIT : I missed one of the most important ones:
  
  Capitalism has failed. Absoludely.
  
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  December 13, 2018 11:24am
  - stigie
    
    Yep, a massive billboard on someones property close to the road should keep the socialists offended.
    Have it guarded day and night by the black singlets to keep the parasites from tearing it down !~
    
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    December 13, 2018 11:49am
    - Dave Mann
      
      I was thinking more like motorway billboards in Auckland and Wellington to start with. Paid for properly and sited to get as much exposure for the buck$ as possible.
      
      Also, the billboards need not mention the words ‘National Party’. It might work much better as a teaser campaign and get people talking and chuckling.
      
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      December 13, 2018 11:57am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Freedom of speech is an outdated colonial construct and has no place in modern New Zealand. Absoludely.
    
    A degree is gender studies is more valuable than knowing how to fix and build stuff. Absoludely.
    
    The world would be a better place without any older white men in it. Absoludely.
    
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    December 13, 2018 12:20pm
- mandk
  
  Shane Jones is spending his slush fund wisely. Absoludely.
  
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  December 13, 2018 12:45pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Good one, except that it would work better not to name and attack actual people. Keep it about principles and leave it up to the reader to reach their own conclusions:
    
    It’s not a slush fund for my mates, it’s a vital regional development project. Absoludely.
    
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    December 13, 2018 1:06pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Would most voters, who are not politically aware get that “Absoludely” is taking the piss out of Cindy and her policies?
  
  Great if it worked.
  
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  December 13, 2018 1:02pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    I take your point, but I think that the obvious contradictions would make an impact in themselves even to someone who didn’t necessarily realise that it was a parody of the SLG’s speaking style.
    
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    December 13, 2018 1:14pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Sorry to go on about this, but I think a QR code on the billboards linking to either a request dialogue for more information or a simple Like/Dislike input would be great too.
    
    I realise that I’m giving away a strategy here….but Labour are almost certainly monitoring this blog and hopefully the Nats are more alive than Adern on this.
    
    If you’re reading this, National Party, get together and report this post out of existence so you can use the concept. My gift to you.
    
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    December 13, 2018 1:33pm
secondcumming

BREAKING…..

Once again, these *shiny-arse clowns* that make up the IPCA, decide they they know better than the cops out their keeping them safe.

It’s no wonder so many experienced cops have called it quits……THIS SORT OF WEAK SHIT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1072965494130520832
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December 13, 2018 11:16am
- waikatogirl
  
  sc, it says “That page doesn’t exist”
  
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  December 13, 2018 1:11pm
Woz

This might be a stupid question, but I’d like a little clarity. An acquaintance has sent me a link to an item on a US-based news site containing every detail you’d care to know about the Grace Millane-accused, and then some. Does my acquaintance’s action violate the suppression order?
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December 13, 2018 12:02pm
- Dave Mann
  
  I think if your acquaintance only sent you the link without mentioning the accused’s name there would be no problem. But if DPF allowed the link to be published here, he would be in deep legal shit.
  
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  December 13, 2018 12:28pm
- Woz
  
  He simply sent me the link. I just wondered if he was stepping on thin ice because I’m sure I won’t be the only one he’s sent it to. I have no intention of forwarding it – better safe than sorry, methinks.
  
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  December 13, 2018 1:14pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    There is something wrong with suppression laws if someone of my limited internet skills can find out his name in about three minutes.
    
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    December 13, 2018 1:34pm
    - MCos
      
      The rules around suppression of identity are there for reasons, which you may or may not agree with.
      As you say you had to go out of your way to find out this guy’s name with little chance of anyone being apprehended.
      Similarly someone once threw a beer bottle through my kitchen window in the dead of night with little chance of being apprehended and people regularly ignore the red light at the entrance to the motorway near here with little chance of being apprehended.
      Should we delete all laws that can be broken with ease?
      No, because that’s how order is maintained in a civilized society.
      
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      December 13, 2018 2:07pm
- fernglas
  
  The notion of publication is somewhat wider than mere communication; it requires that the information be made available, if not to the world at large, then to some reasonably significant audience. So your acquaintance’s actions are not likely to be in breach of the order. The complications caused by the availability of the internet mean that this issue will not be going away soon.
  
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  December 13, 2018 2:38pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

2019 should be an interesting year, UK will break away from the EU, Putin will invade Ukraine, Xi will invade Taiwan, and Indonesia will invade us, as part of a global caliphate (yes Lauren Southern is very hot and eloquent, even my gf says so) so maybe time to buy a gas mask?
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December 13, 2018 12:26pm
- fernglas
  
  My take is that the UK will capitulate and grovel to be allowed back into the EU, Putin will catch his death of cold riding around Siberia naked, Xi will invade America and Indonesia will invade Australia because NZ is too cold.
  
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  December 13, 2018 2:41pm
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  On the good side, the weed has got better, haha, remember those days, unable to speak for an hour?
  
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  December 13, 2018 2:47pm
  - Kiwi_in_Paris
    
    My friends remember those days fondly, lol
    
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    December 13, 2018 2:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  Kiwi in Paris, 2019 will see the KB alt right bubble chamber deflate to nothing!
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CTnTi1Lq60
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:28pm
Right of way is Way of Right

I see the Finance Minister is explaining the disappearance of 2 BILLION dollars from the expected surplus as a ‘timing issue’.

The only way time has anything to do with this is that too much time has passed since National sorted the economy out!

Welcome to the Labour Government Economic Miracle, it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better!!
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December 13, 2018 1:17pm
- mandk
  
  Correction: Under the CoL, it will get worse, before it gets worse still.
  
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  December 13, 2018 2:01pm
- howitis
  
  So is that how his father explained the $120,000 Robertson Sr stole from his employer in 1985 to 1990 dollar value ?
  
  >Gee Guv, its just a timing difference.<
  
  Don't send me to jail for two years.
  
  $120k in Dunedin 1990 = two houses.
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:28pm
  - artemisia
    
    A plague in both of them?
    
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    December 13, 2018 5:07pm
starboard

Question time…Peters is pissed.
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December 13, 2018 2:17pm
- Happychappy
  
  What a arrogant facetious piece of garbage Winston Peters is and to virtually have to revert to calling Simon Bidges names while answering Questions that need to be addressed he has no recourse to people suggesting he is corrupt and past his used by date. This senior Politician is supposed to be setting the example for those that follow him but the way things are panning out in NZ people like JLR will become more frequent if this is what the standard is set at for those that follow.
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:00pm
- RF
  
  Funny you made that observation. I figured rubber lips was priming himself for his first class flight to the USA later today.
  
  The stupid prick is virtually impossible to understand.
  
  God help the yanks….
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:29pm
- Prince
  
  Ssshh, can’t say that. He’s just tired and emotional.
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:00pm
  - sooty
    
    After all he’s had a rough night, thinking up how to answer the Comrades questions for her as she did not show again!
    
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    December 13, 2018 7:48pm
waikatogirl

In QT today, Amy Adams questioned the Minister of Finance. It is concerning that the tax take is set to increase by 17.4billion over the next four years, or the equivalent of $10,000 per household over that time. Robertson sees no problem with increased tax, stating that businesses are busy earning profits.

We all know that profit is a dirty word to the left and therefore tax the rich pricks and the hardworking business folk of NZ is a priority. ???
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December 13, 2018 2:50pm
- Ross12
  
  wg
  Was he talking about the annual tax take increasing up to 17.4 billion or was it 17.4 more over that 4yr period (ie. average of about 4.3bill/yr ) ?
  Either way he must have a very fancy dart board.
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:32pm
stigie

Fuck the lot of them waikatogirl and the horses they rode into town on !~
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December 13, 2018 3:09pm
howitis

News just in
• Cardinal George Pell has been found guilty of sexually assaulting two choir boys
• Pell, an Australian cleric, is the Catholic Church’s third most senior clergyman
• The 77-year-old is the most senior Catholic to be charged with sexual offences
• He is on leave from his position in the Vatican and will appeal the convictions
• An Australian court order prevents publication of the verdicts in his homeland

So, while people talk about name suppression in NZ in a recent murder case, the smug prick who got in a pulpit in Australia and told others how THEY must be morally good while kiddie fiddling and facilitating kiddie fiddling among his weird catholic priest deviant mates is finally nailed.
Nailed legally, not nailed in the way these sanctimonious deviants were nailing pre-adolescents in their ‘pastoral’ care.

Pastoral care to these deviants was ‘ploughing the field’ and moving to the next one and, if actually caught, moved to another country by the catholic deviant organisation to begin sexual molestation elsewhere.
Often poorer countries like Tonga and Philippines.
But the court result is suppressed in Australia.

This will not be reported honestly in NZ (what is?) and cannot be reported in Australia even though Pell is charged and convicted through the court system in a high profile case where related activity has adversely affected many victims over the last 60+ years and some victims have taken their own lives.

The catholic smug answer will be >> oh dear, suicide is a mortal sin and they will go the hell.
WTF did they experience as 12 or 13 year old kids where bastards in authority were molesting them and no adult would believe them let alone step up on their behalf.
It would have been hell.

Duterte of the Philippines has got it right.
When you have corrupt police and corrupt church folk you have to let the people take action.
Isn’t that how the French people see it with their recent protesting?

The holy rollers are going to downtick me – so ask yourself is that because you don’t like facts or you are a supporter of the supreme right of religious pricks to kiddie fiddle as they see fit?
Remember that next time you give the church money.
?? cents in the dollar go to paying off victims of this abuse as silence money.

The $80 m NZ review announced will not result in one prosecution nor in bringing back one life for those who were overwhelmed by abuse by people in authority and took their own lives.
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December 13, 2018 3:10pm
- MrTips
  
  That case isn’t over. There is another trial and both will be appealed. There is good reason to suspect Pell’s conviction could be overturned like Abp. Wilson’s was.
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:23pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Several people in the Oz media have been after Pell for years. And I mean full on after him.
  There’s no doubt a lot of abuse occurred but unfortunately there’s also people being accused who might not have done anything.
  Last week a case was overturned in the Newcastle District Court. Judge Roy Ellis overturned Magistrate Stone’s earlier decision.
  Fr Philip Wilson, the former Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide, was found guilty by Magistrate Robert Stone in Newcastle Local Court on 3 July 2018 of failing to report a child sex abuse allegation. The prosecution maintained that Fr Wilson had been told that a Catholic priest was a child sex abuser in the mid-1970s and that he had failed to report this matter to NSW Police between April 2004 and January 2006 – as required by Section 316A of the NSW Crimes Act.
  Judge Ellis found that Fr Wilson should not have been convicted beyond reasonable doubt. Judge Ellis, while believing that the complainant in this case was an honest witness, said that he was not satisfied with the accuracy of some of the complainant’s recollections. He found that Fr Wilson was an honest and forthright witness. Judge Ellis also held that it was possible for entirely honest individuals like the complainant to have false memories.
  
  There are similar issues with Pells witnesses.
  The guilty should be punished but alarmingly I think sometimes we see the hysteria which arose in the Ellis case also surface in cases like this.
  Just saying…
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:33pm
- KeaRea
  
  Lol I’ve worked as defence on these cases.
  
  They are mass class actions and often very speculative with a paucity of evidence. ‘Assault’ can include a whole range of things – like other children in an orphanage turning a cold shower on a fellow resident.
  
  Pell has been framed up for the sins of others at least in part because of his honesty is seeking to audit the Vatican Bank. Jews wouldn’t like it if the Vatican Bank got audited.
  
  Anyway – I will reserve judgement – if he did it, he did it, but I will reserve judgement.
  
  I want to see Royal Commissions into all the other religions. I wonder what we’d find? When I read that one of the primary findings of the Royal Commission was to place government inspectors into the confessional to prevent one on one time with Priests and supplicants I knew it was a total stitch up. That destroys the religion.
  
  I think one day someone needs to ban circumcision because it’s vicious child abuse. That would be equivalent. I think we should ban circumcision because it’s child abuse. And it most certainly is child abuse.
  
  Why don’t they have a look at the activities of the Jewish Board of Deputies instead? A veritable Clinton Foundation.
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:34pm
  - sooty
    
    Would you be RC, by chance?
    
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    December 13, 2018 4:48pm
    - fernglas
      
      Arose by any other name?
      
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      December 13, 2018 5:33pm
Fletch

Jacinda giving $1 million to a marae in Papakura.

The Government will give $1 million to Papakura Marae in Auckland to build six kaumātua flats.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern made the announcement at the marae this morning as hundreds of Aucklanders waited in line for food parcels.

That reality was brought home when someone in the line shouted out to Ms Ardern while she was waiting for formalities to begin, “We’re pohara!” which means, “We’re poor”.

Inside the whare the welcome was warm as kaumātua praised her for trying to build a fairer society.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/indictment-us-nation-pm-says-m-ori-homelessness-rate-while-announcing-1-million-marae

I always cringe at the socialist use of “fairer”…
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December 13, 2018 3:13pm
- The Heat
  
  when someone in the line shouted
  
  Of course you’re poor. You seem to be expecting a socialist to save you, shouty person in the line?
  
  That isn’t the way to become well off.
  
  Just so you know – they don’t care about you, shouty person. They just pretend to do so so you will give them what they crave. Power.
  
  I know you’re not listening, shouty person in the line. That’s the root of your problems, really.
  
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  December 13, 2018 3:32pm
  - sooty
    
    $166,000 each.
    No land cost.
    Is there council fees?
    
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    December 13, 2018 4:52pm
  - MCos
    
    There seems to be some sort of perception in your remark that poor people only have themselves to blame for the position in which they find themselves.
    
    Am I right?
    
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    December 13, 2018 4:52pm
    - sooty
      
      No I am just breaking down the million dollars that Comrade gave them for six houses for the maori hierarchy. Do you think they are getting a good deal or been ripped off, as I have no idea on cost in ak. No land cost in this.
      Edit. You appear to be up you own arse and don’t stink!
      
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      December 13, 2018 7:42pm
stephieboy

We always cringe when Trumpeters use of stinginess!
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December 13, 2018 3:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Anyone able to translate that sentence of stephieboy’s?
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:47pm
  - nasska
    
    Why bother? The translation wouldn’t make any sense either.
    
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    December 13, 2018 4:58pm
    - stigie
      
      The translation is that the new lube he is using is stinging shit out of the goats arse !~
      
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      December 13, 2018 5:48pm
      - nasska
        
        That’s the problem facing those to whom English is a second language.
        
        The pottles containing vaseline & Vicks Vapour Rub look so much alike! 🙂
        
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        December 13, 2018 5:52pm
Ross12

So I hear on the News the PM asking people not name accused in the UK packer murder case, repeating Little’s plea the other day.
She were happy to milk the situation with faux tears on TV the other night but now she is pleading for people to be quiet about the accused when the horse has bolted anyway.
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December 13, 2018 3:37pm
- MCos
  
  I’ve seen many leaders over the years express their sorrow for one reason or another and occasionally they struggle to keep their composure.
  Here’s a recent example from the Australian PM.
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:25pm
DigNap15

What are the name supression laws in the UK, Canada, Australia, the USA?
How many days if any?
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December 13, 2018 4:04pm
sooty

If the defence lawyer had not appealed, there would be no name supression!
Who was the defence lawyer?
What can he appeal in this case?
Was he just big noting to gain more costs?
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December 13, 2018 4:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Do we really need convicted meth users telling us all not to do drugs?
Rapper and hip-hop artist Scribe will join in the war against methamphetamine – even while he faces sentencing on a charge of possessing the class A drug.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109338168/hiphop-artist-scribe-keen-on-role-in-antidrugs-doco
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December 13, 2018 4:45pm
- itstricky
  
  Why not? Such things happen all the time and convey experience from a place that a plain old boring lecture can’t.
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:10pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Scribe faces multiple charges of domestic violence
    But interesting you’re ok with him to be promoted as a role model
    Lefties eh
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:26pm
    - starboard
      
      Ouch. Want an ice pack for that face slap, itsdicky ?
      snigger much.
      
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      December 13, 2018 9:52pm
    - itstricky
      
      I simply did not know that. I was answering Maggy’s question alone.
      
      No need to go over the top with your generalisations about large groups of people.
      
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      December 14, 2018 7:54am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Anything to get the sentence reduced.
  If he ends up getting klink, he’ll find some God or other to get paroled early.
  It’s all bullshit.
  
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  December 13, 2018 10:45pm
emmess

History has just been made, ladies and gentlemen. The shitty PC YouTube Rewind has just overtaken Justin Biebers ‘Baby’ in the number of dislikes which had held the top spot for about eight years.
https://youtu.be/4c5FGxFMDxM
Go over and dislike to send Google a message.
https://youtu.be/YbJOTdZBX1g
Approaching 10 million.
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December 13, 2018 4:46pm
- Longknives
  
  Surely a smirking Clarke Gayford’s ‘Naughty or Nice’ Spark ad would come close?
  Or maybe that Air NZ abomination? The one with the Transgender ‘Gangsta Rapper’…
  
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  December 13, 2018 4:56pm
KeaRea

http://abilk.com/germany-economy-boom-is-over-german-government-slashes-growth-forecast/

Germany economic boom is over.

The next depression will be a diversity depression.

The ‘science’ saying that diversity lends economic benefits is hilariously stupid.

Yes – very high IQ people of any ethnicity can provide an economic benefit.

Then within two generations their line has reverted to the mean and you have the modern United States.

But don’t worry goy, the answer is clearly even more immigration which has caused Germany and the Nordic Zone’s economic problems in the first place.
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December 13, 2018 4:48pm
KeaRea

Anne Coulter is hilarious.

On Ingraham’s Fox News show asked about the modern version of the Democrats:

“I mean you have the Muslims and the Jews and the various exotic sexual groups and the black church ladies with the College Queers…you must hate white men. It’s the one thing they have in common”.

She’s 100% correct.

Whites are the new Jews. Hating them unites difference. If only Imperial Japan had had some white men.
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December 13, 2018 4:51pm
- itstricky
  
  Only lefties do identity politics…
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:07pm
Longknives

Check out the recent developments on the Sroubek post.
And tell your friends, everyone you fucking know..
(Before it disappears)
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December 13, 2018 5:01pm
- nasska
  
  Thanks. I’ve got a file copy.
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:10pm
- itstricky
  
  ADS
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:12pm
KeaRea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-W6uSz324

Here is another example.

You can’t ‘not like’ Ireland’s entire population being replaced by in the next 20 years.

This is they guy who was particularly scathing of Gower.

He’s going to get deplatformed by Youtube because he is unhappy with the Gay Hindoo’s election fraud and plans to replace the population of Ireland entirely within 25 years.
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December 13, 2018 5:14pm
Morrissey

What did the world search for on Google in 2018?

Some really nice, positive stuff here—especially the really beautiful couple and their baby at the 1:09 mark….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aFdEhEZQjE
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December 13, 2018 5:15pm
- Longknives
  
  Putrid.
  Utterly Putrid.
  
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  December 13, 2018 5:32pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Come on, Knives, admit it: You Desire Her with a passion matched only by that old lecher Cap’n Mainwaring.
    
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    December 13, 2018 5:44pm
    - Longknives
      
      Dear God! I wouldn’t touch that dreadful gaunt looking creature if you paid me..
      
      A lovely blonde from my beloved Fox Network would be a different story…
      https://totalfratmove.com/top-10-hottest-fox-news-anchors/
      
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      December 13, 2018 6:10pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Liz Wheeler is a choice from OAN. Final Point. She must have dyed her hair, no dumb blonde here
        
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        December 13, 2018 7:14pm
      - sooty
        
        Had to laugh, the media highlights was on and Ardern and squrriel have been relagated down the list. It’s now been taken by royalty they reckon. Richie McCaw and his lovely wife, have just had a baby. Guess they will be on the cover of womans day for the next six issues. Sorry Comrade and jag you are history.
        
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        December 13, 2018 7:31pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”Sorry Comrade and jag you are history”…..
        
        Oh dear! Never mind ……that’s the way the post-partum stretch marks fade.
        
        Next please! 🙂
        
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        December 13, 2018 7:42pm
Morrissey

A downtick. 信じられない。

Well, haters gonna hate, I guess….
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December 13, 2018 5:25pm
- sooty
  
  Yep. We hate you.
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:25pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  信じられない。 = a general expression of disbelief
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:53pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Morrisey,
  
  I have to give you an uptick for your correct contextual use of the expression “信じられない。”
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:02pm
  - Morrissey
    
    オジャクさん、どうもありがとうございました。
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:12pm
JibberJabber

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/109340806/opposition-leader-says-prime-minister-jacinda-arderns-account-of-text-message-from-sroubek-supporter-dishonest

Comments are open, so far, have at it.
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December 13, 2018 6:16pm
- starboard
  
  Comments closed LOL !
  
  Stuff, you’re stuffed.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:41pm
Morrissey

Weekend at Bernie’s Part II

Bernie, the dead guy, is propped up on the seat between Nancy Pelosi and President Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wm-NtMkqz8
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December 13, 2018 7:02pm
- sooty
  
  Why would they have him when they could have had you? Would not even need to stuff you!
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:18pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  You kicked from the stranded mossey-cakes?
  
  You Czeched out this palava of the texts from hardcore? You going to add the princess and drunken dwarf to your list of gropers for fucking us all up the jaxy?
  
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  December 13, 2018 7:21pm
- starboard
  
  Laugh it up fisty boy. The wheels are falling off, slowly, but surely, morry minor.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:28pm
Odakyu-sen

Perhaps the native New Zealanders can help me out with this one.
I got a computer-generated e-mail from Air New Zealand in damage control over the possible strikes. The letter opened with
Kia Ora,
instead of “Hello ___” or Dear Mr. ____”

What is with this insertion of Te Reo into an otherwise entirely English language communication? It seems so weird and unnatural to me.

Can anyone explain it to me?
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December 13, 2018 7:56pm
- sooty
  
  It’s the same with every govt and council rebranding with made up words.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:04pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I agree Odakyu-sen, it is just virtue signalling rubbish.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Of course to a bi/multilinguist, it is bastardisation of language… but as most kiwis are solidly monolinguists, there have been many attempts by the Powers-that-be for us to adopt some te reo into our everyday communications.
  
  Hence the attempt by the Maori Language Commission back in the 1990s for Public Servants to start and end emails and letters with Maori greetings and sign-offs… and to incorporate common words…. whanau/kai/aotearoa/waka etc into the body of the communication.
  https://ubiq.co.nz/p/maori-for-the-office-te-reo-maori-mo-te-tari-9780195583779
  
  Nowadays… RNZ frequently starts all its news items etc with a Maori intro..
  Goodness only knows what Foreigners make of this swapping from one Official language to another…
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:44pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Thank you for explaining this phenomenon.
    
    I have even found a link to an approved list of these things.
    Ref: https://lianza.org.nz/sites/default/files/M%C4%81ori%20greetings%20and%20signoffs%20for%20letters%20and%20emails_0.pdf
    
    For the English, here is a similar list with Welsh greetings and sign-offs. (I have to admit that the Maori spelling is a lot easier than the Welsh…)
    Ref: https://www.bangor.ac.uk/cymorthcymraeg/ymadroddion.php.en
    
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    December 13, 2018 9:25pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, its part of a campaign by sickly white liberals to try to be cool and suck up to our cousy bros.
  
  The best way is to write back and say I did not understand.
  
  I hate every organization that has Aoteoroa in its name.
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:14pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Its infested the schools as well. I don’t play ball, though, only English in my communication. The only people I respond with Kia Ora are those who are Maori and greet me with that. Wanabee Maori Bros get a grunt in reply if they Kai Ora me….
  
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  December 13, 2018 9:28pm
sooty

My take is that Jethro and Comrade are close personal friends with Hardcore and the dud cheque or are in a customer and supplier relationship! Just reading between the lines or pushing them? Something smells and looks like corruption!
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December 13, 2018 8:01pm
- nasska
  
  You’re not wrong on the corruption angle but I’m hedging bets on how it all came together.
  
  Yet while doing a bit of research I came across this gem which gives some insight into the weird & whacky lives of the beautiful people who masturbate themselves publicly & freely in the “Queen City”.
  
  https://www.noted.co.nz/life/life-in-nz/aucklands-most-influential-in-society/
  
  It’s not until you read stuff like this & realise how those who consider themselves ‘movers & shakers’ actually live that you can begin to understand how the debacle the Labour hierarchy are now in could happen.
  
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  December 13, 2018 8:14pm
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    nasska, and Auckland wonders why the rest of NZ think they are a bunch of tossers: JAFA.
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:35pm
    - nasska
      
      To someone who’s lived a real life out in the sticks it’s incomprehensible.
      
      I accept the label of “country bumpkin” with pride. 🙂
      
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      December 13, 2018 8:50pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Written I see, by Simon Wilson.
    Now there’s someone who gets his tongue right in there.
    Especially to the Council and AT
    
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    December 13, 2018 8:42pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/links-14-december-2018/#comment-3248211

Sydney house price downturn could dampen Auckland prices | Jenny Ruth of BusinessDesk| Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1812/S00325/sydney-house-price-downturn-could-dampen-auckland-prices.htm

… concluding …

… One reason for that difference is that Australia has been building at the rate of about nine houses per 1,000 people while New Zealand has been building only seven.

“The impulse responses from regional models suggest that increasing dwelling construction tends to dampen house price inflation, although its impact differs by region,” Smith said.

“Increases in dwelling construction tend to feed through more quickly to Wellington house prices than they do for Auckland. The peak impact of higher Auckland residential construction on dwelling prices is about three years, as opposed to about two years for New Zealand and about six months for Wellington,” he said.

“Melbourne house prices look to be particularly responsive to additional dwelling supply. Surprisingly, there is no clear relationship for Sydney house prices.”
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