General Debate 9 November 2018

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krazykiwi

We need fewer water quality scientists, and more gang-affiliated drug dealers. Loving your work Immigration New Zealand
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November 9, 2018 8:01am
- peterwn
  
  Don’t blame the Immigration New Zealand public servants (as Labour MP’s are doing). Blame the Minister for not bothering to read their recommendations.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:09am
  - KevOB
    
    Or more.
    My nose twitches increasingly by the hour.
    
    If ILG didn’t bother to read the documents what knowledge informed his decision?
    
    His excuse that his predecessor did it some or other is no excuse. ILG’s gross breach of his duty of care demands an inquiry.
    
    Is corruption involved? That’s a expected way drug dealers operate.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:19am
    - Paulus
      
      Originally we heard that he only read the conclusion paper and it took about seven minutes.
      Now it is the whole file about one hour.
      Why is he still a Minister let alone still in Parliament ?
      Ardern is as usual Gutless.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:23am
      - Liberty
        
        Democracy has it failings
        When a union lick-spital gets elected to a seat that is so red it is classified as a labour road kill seat.
        Gets appointed a Minister now hopelessly out of his depth. Fails to read full briefing paper.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:15am
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      The country is lucky we got a bit less than an hour spent on this case! He’s admitted all the rest of his cases got much less-although he won’t admit just how little they all got.
      
      I don’t think this man has any right any more to refuse to provide information that is in the public interest. New Zealanders have a right to know just how little effort and time has actually gone into protecting our safety.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:26am
      - sooty
        
        Who told Slease what his decission would be?
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:39am
    - cmm
      
      He, or one of his staffers, wrote the letter and he signed it.
      
      What is in the letter clearly shows he had some knowledge of what a shithead this dealer is.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:50am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      When you have already predetermined the case outcome best not to read too much as then you claim plausible deniability which is what Sleeze and Cindy and their supporters are doing.
      
      Their problem is it aint plausible if the Report tells you not to do what you predetermined to do.
      
      And the other reason not to release the Report is that we will find out the Officials told Sleeze not to given him PR.
      
      What we can hope for is that someone in Immigration has the ethics morals and principles that the COL lacks and blows the whistle to a media sources who will run with it. The ideal would be one of the NBR reporters who aren’t on the COL payroll.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:58am
      - Sam
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        Why would any one use back door channels. Are you suggesting that some one from the coalition government would fire some one for blowing the whistle or something? Should be in every ones best interest to just come forward and sought it out. So far not seeing much that would compel The Minister to reverse his decision.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:08am
    - Philview
      
      I saw the bizarre photo of ILG hiding behind a pillar. ILG is cracking up and it seems this relates to something he knows and we don’t. Claire Curran had a near nervous breakdown because she sent work emails on her personal email. Either Labour MPs are snowflakes or there is something sinister underneath. Maybe they are just snowflakes and are falling apart on matters that most of us would just laugh off. Compare to the absolute firestorm put on Simon Bridges and he hasn’t had a breakdown.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:04am
      - stigie
        
        Can you please supply the photo of Slease Galloway hiding behind that protective pillar..?
        I want to crack up too !~
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:37am
      - cmm
        
        We never really got a resolution on the Curran/Handley thing. She was just doing something for PriNZess.
        
        PriNZess can’t fall, so sorry Curran you’ve got to jump under the bus.
        
        The question must be asked here: Is this the smae pattern all over again?
        
        Curran was a long period of support and refusing to accept resignation etc and we’re seeing that all over again.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:43am
      - Philview
        
        Stiggie, that photo seems to have disappeared from the internet which is a bit odd.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:53am
      - softail 1450
        
        Sam , there are a good number of voters that would like to reverse their decisions,,,,,’,
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:41pm
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    “Reading between the lines” seems to be more work than the Minister did.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:06am
    - Rich Prick
      
      “Reading between the lines” … favours or threats?
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:49am
- hullkiwi
  
  Just like dubious Auckland Council air quality scientists. Doing studies and telling us air quality in Auckland is worse than in some European cities. So, Auckland’s air quality is worse than…..
  
  What meaningless science & statements, all to make the public panic. So, dumb politicians will throw more money their way.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:13am
  - holysheet
    
    Auckland obviously don’t have any water quality inspectors. Their polluted beaches are not the kind of thing anyone mentions. Yet down in the real world, those that produce the nations income are heavily punished for any slight effluent leak.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:17am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      And the cause of water pollution in Auckland. Why its Watercare owned by the Council who have failed to maintain the infrastructure over many decades whilst the Council raped pillaged and burnt Rate Payers and pissed most of the rates up against the wall.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:02am
  - G152
    
    Most of those cities have populations greater than our entire country.
    HTF can Auckland have an equal pollution as, say, Hong Kong or London ????
    Some-one in an ivory tower wants to be noticed
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:20am
    - BlueGriffon
      
      They are conning us so they can pedestrianise Queen St. It will be a disaster, lasted 5 minutes when they did it in Onehunga Mall.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:30am
      - sooty
        
        You have to ask, why would go into the CBD to shop?
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:41am
      - tui47
        
        The homeless are going to love a pedestrianised Queen Street. They will be stretched out far and wide with so much more space.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:42am
      - lifesgood
        
        Yeah, great, make more room for beggars.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:43am
      - hullkiwi
        
        BG you are spot on. Maybe they should go and measure air quality on the intersection of Cromwell Road (A4) & Warwick Road in London & see what their comparison with Queen Street is.
        
        The Auckland City Planners, AT planners and the Transport Blog should do all of us a favour and STFU!!
        
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        November 9, 2018 12:04pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    I reckon the dodgy air quality on Queen Street study was not so much about money, but part of the communications push to soften public opinion so the idealogues can close off Queen Street (and other inner city streets) to cars . They’ve already consulted the public on turning some outer Auckland suburb townships to 30kmh speed zones with more lights and crossings, but are waiting until after the election to implement. On Ya Bike Comrades.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:50am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      I remember those nasty little diesel trucks in Japan in the 1990s. They produced a lot of sooty smoke. Horrible little things.
      The Tokyo government tightened up regulations to improve the air quality. What do you think happened to all the stinky trucks?
      They were exported, and many of the little smokers ended up in Auckland.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:38am
    - Fletch
      
      I was thinking the EXACT same thing. Funny how the dirty air report comes close on the heels of them wanting to close Queen Street off to traffic.
      
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      November 9, 2018 10:27am
  - wiseowl
    
    They are following the UN Agenda Hull.
    More control.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:06am
    - Sam
      
      Best stay away from those conspiracy theories.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:14am
      - softail 1450
        
        sam you do that sam ,there’s a good boy .
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:47pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Wiseowl yes, we will close off Queen Street & there will be thousands of shoppers encouraged to come to Queen Street not.
      
      The advocates of such crap such as Agenda 21 do not get it. The one thing they never talk about is what the journey patterns are of individuals Mon – Fri versus Sat & Sun. This is because it destroys their arguments. As a test, think about your personal journeys each day of the week versus each of those of each of your family members. Then if you live/work in a major city, think about how much time you have to go shopping in a pedestrian mall in the CBD that comprises predominantly souvenir shops, cafes and high end clothing/fashion shops?
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Agenda 21 is the conspiracy crackpot address!
        
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        November 9, 2018 12:54pm
      - simpleton1
        
        There is an Agenda_21 program developed for the UN. Some of it may be good, some of it converted by others, some of it “airy fairy”, some of it bad.
        subscribe to ICLEI, an organization that promotes Agenda 21 globally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
        
        Whether you agree with it or not, it is a development of the UN, and many political elite are employed by it under other names, and travel world wide seeing how it is working.
        
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        November 9, 2018 1:06pm
      - sooty
        
        I see that our pollies travel widely aswell!
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:45pm
      - waikatosinger
        
        And these shoppers are going to carry all their shopping home on the train? Good luck with that. I’d rather drive to a mall to shop.
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:48pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
        steffy is a girl.
        
        Notice how quiet the usual labour interns are on the Immigration story. Can’t understand why they aren’t out there vigorously defending the dickhead’s decision to prop up Ardern’s failure to act.
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:24pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Of course this story will have been dredged up by RNZ to cast Immigration New Zealand in a bad light given how comprehensively they performed on the Czech drug dealer case
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:27am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    On the contrary Krazykiwi – RNZ had the GM of Immigration New Zealand on just before 7am, and whilst he didn’t directly criticise the Minister, he emphasised that ILG was furnished all the information INZ had.
    
    The file will have had more red flags than a Labour Party campaign rally. It’s just that Lees-Galloway couldn’t spot them. He is an inept Minister in an inept government, and if he doesn’t jump he needs to be pushed.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:31am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      The whole bloody ‘Government’ needs to be pushed.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:49am
    - Nermal
      
      Must have applied “Brimblecone’s Variable”: Any number applied to the answer to get the pre-determined result
      
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      November 9, 2018 3:06pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  Not INZ’s fault. They will have provided a thorough and comprehensive dossier with options for deportation under relevant sections of the Act.
  
  This poor decision was the Minister’s fault and his alone.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:30am
  - Komata
    
    Sarkozy..
    
    And yet, as far as I can determine, no-one in the MSM is asking the two glaringly-obvious questions:
    
    1. Who was paid? (And how much?)
    
    2. What has the Czech got on senior NZLP members?
    
    Where’s Ian Wishart when he’s most needed?
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:34am
    - rangitoto
      
      He seems to be more interested in his mobile phone importing/sales business these days.
      
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      November 9, 2018 10:08am
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      You’re kidding right, Komata?
      
      MSM asking hard questions! hahahaha.
      
      There is an ‘Ian Wishart’ reporting on Brexit out of London presently, but I don’t think it is the same one.
      
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      November 9, 2018 10:58am
- Philview
  
  We seem to be getting a few hints that there is something amiss about Mr Soubrek’s wedding but no one is actually saying who was there. Any thoughts appreciated?
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:42am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  This was a pre determined decision. Have a look at the drug dealer’s clients – then you will find the connection. At the moment it reeks of a Labour cover up. There is more going on here than just a dealer being released.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:50am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Newshub has got a survey – Should Iain L-Galloway resign? 80% think he should. Check out the link and make your vote https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/11/poll-should-iain-lees-galloway-resign-as-immigration-minister.html
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:34am
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      It has dropped to 79%. It appears Labour trolls have received word to vote ‘No’ en masse.
      
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      November 9, 2018 10:55am
    - PhilP
      
      Poll now dropped to 78% even with my yes vote!
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:17pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Still at 78%, suppose we should count ourselves lucky they haven’t taken the poll down, time for that yet before the ‘surprise’ 4.00 Friday afternoon announcement.
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:15pm
  - backster
    
    His cover was as an importer of antiques, so probably clientele were from the upper echelons of society, maybe among the chardonay sippers of New Lynn.
    
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    November 9, 2018 10:02am
- Southern Raider
  
  And then the Ministry penalises the Motorsport guy from Australia because he was in NZ for 181 days instead of 180
  
  FFS he’s invested millions in Highland Park etc
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:05am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Rich prick who likes combustion engines. Not the sort of person ILG and the COL want in NZ.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:51am
- kevn
  
  @KK… Wrong, we need more competent ministers in all areas.
  Is there one who is performing well? No.
  Lazy decision making by hyphen (the hiding one) with no remorse.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:10am
  - stigie
    
    Crikey, is that going to be 3 ministers in less than 6 months ?
    How many more gone after 2 years ? What a rabble of a government we have, what a laughing stock !~
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:45am
    - freethinker
      
      Keep an eye on developments re 3 Pies & Twatford.
      
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      November 9, 2018 2:00pm
Keeping Stock

Tick, tock…

That’s the clock ticking on Iain Lees-Galloway’s ministerial career. The INZ GM has been on radio this morning saying that ILG had been provided with a comprehensive filing, including Sroubek’s travel movements.

So which will happen first this afternoon; Lees-Galloway’s resignation announcement, or the release of the Haumaha Report? I’d pick the former at 3.30pm and the latter at 4.45pm.
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November 9, 2018 8:01am
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  And here is the damning report:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108459164/minister-made-decision-on-sroubek-residency-on-same-day-he-heard-of-case
  
  He should be sacked from all his portfolios and Cabinet. He has shown himself to be a liar and therefore should have lost the confidence of the Prime Minister and the country.
  
  How can New Zealanders trust any immigration decisions over the past 13 months under this mans watch.
  
  How can we trust his incompetence and propensity to lie to the nation won’t cause problems for the country in his other portfolios?
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:08am
  - sooty
    
    Oh dear! oh dear! Things arn’t going too well are they. Another minister bites the dust. Maybe you could draft in Angrys mother to cover. She has more sense than the son, even she didn’t vote for him!
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:13am
    - mic
      
      Just heard Ardern say that she won’t be asking for ILG’s resignation!!
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:04am
      - Rich Prick
        
        That means he’s resigned already.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:53am
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        I don’t know whether to say I’m surprised or not surprised.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:28am
      - sooty
        
        Comrade Cindy is making a speech from the throne ( the twyford throne )in Wakatana this afternoon!
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:52pm
  - ldypen
    
    Lucky our Government is the most open and transparent that we have ever had!
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:25am
  - KevOB
    
    This should also signal an inquiry into possible corruption informing the Minister’s decision.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:26am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Without doubt. National should be calling for a comprehensive, independent review
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Iain Lees-Galloway lied when he said
    “I can assure the public that this was a decision taken in full view of the information presented to me, and not a decision that I have made lightly.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1810/S00270/minister-iain-lees-galloway-statement-on-karel-sroubek.htm
    
    Jacinda Ardern lied to the public when she told NZ that her Minister had considered this matter carefully.
    
    jacinda Ardern lied to the public when she said all material had not been placed before the minister
    
    “What is unusual is some of the basis of the minister’s decision has been contradicted by other information in the public domain.”
    
    The decision for the courts and parole board were not made known to the Immigration Minister when they should have been, she added.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108416607/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-found-out-about-karel-sroubek-decision-through-the-media
    
    Winston Peters lied to the public when he said The minister had not been given information from Immigration.
    Peters said information that should have been available to the Immigration Minister wasn’t because of “certain people in the bureaucracy.”
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/winston-peters-puts-blame-on-immigration-officials-for-karel-sroubek-saga/
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:33am
    - simpleton1
      
      A tangled web of 3.
      Take them all down!
      
      Keep on reminding many others of Ardhern’s and Peter’s ‘sticky’ support of IL-G
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:35am
    - Colinxy
      
      I’m fairly convinced that Iain Lees-Galloway has something like a magic 8 ball that is named “Careful Consideration” that he uses. Thus, Lees-Galloway, Ardern and Peters can all claim, with all honesty, that “Careful Consideration” was used in making the decision.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:41am
    - Monique Watson
      
      Well said Maggy. Pity the MSM couldn’t spell it out in a similar vein.
      
      That’s right they are a brainwashed vested interest in keeping Liabour in.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:42am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:42am
      - oldgolfer
        
        Let me think about that for a nano-second.
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:44am
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        You gave it that long oldgolfer.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:29am
      - freethinker
        
        A better question would be is anyone in the COLL Govt not a liar????????????????????????????????
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:04pm
    - Sofia
      
      Further Maggy, is Winston, back on October 30 –
      
      The Deputy Prime Minister has voiced support for the Immigration Minister over his decision to grant a convicted criminal from the Czech Republic residency.  Winston Peters says he has reviewed the case and is comfortable with the outcome, telling RadioLIVE that criticism over Minister Iain Lees-Galloway’s decision is unjustified because people don’t know the details of the case. The deputy PM said he’s read over the case and is fully satisfied with the minister’s conclusion.   “There is an enormous amount of precedent for a minister to make a decision like this, and one of the things that is bound with the decision is the privacy issue, because it goes to the very safety of the people involved,” said Mr Peters.  – news hub https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/privacy-is-critical-in-sroubek-s-residency-case-winston-peters.html
      
      “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by what they produce – eventually“
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:25am
      - simpleton1
        
        Thanks Sofia,
        The oozing tar streaks of Peters showing that he more than checked up on the Sroubek case.
        Why?
        
        Did not trust IL-G’s ability?
        What made Peters aware of Sroubek’s file put in front of IL-G?
        Was it really Peters concern about “people’s safety”?
        The privacy issue he raises. Is it dangerous for people to know too much? 🙂
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:34am
      - Woz
        
        I’ve already said that Winston reviewed fuck all. It increasingly appears that I was right.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:52am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I agree. It’s also worthy of note that he is Workplace Relations Minister, but throwing public servants under buses is not my idea of good faith workplace relations 😀
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:42am
  - secondcumming
    
    Jacinda has just come out and said “she wouldn’t accept IL-G’s resignation even if he offered it”.
    
    Okay, that’s fine……but just get rid of that violent criminal drug-dealer back to where he came from. Why the fuck do we need people like this in our country?
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:09am
    - Woz
      
      I feel like giving your comment a red tick, secondcumming, just to express my anger at Toothy, not your comment per se The green tick sometimes seems counterintuitive, you know what I mean? We need an “outraged” button, or something.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:58am
      - sooty
        
        So Comrade Cindy, are you going to resign as well?
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:55pm
- VicParking
  
  Day early I think tomorrow at 1:15 and 4:45 along with an anoncement of how the baby is now eating solids and has said her first words “Lets do This”
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:10am
  - Longknives
    
    I’m fairly sure the baby’s first words will be ‘Comrades, Comrades..’
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:13am
  - sooty
    
    Check your calander there Vic. It’s friday today. You know the anouncement day when you hope no one is watching!
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:16am
    - Paulus
      
      Isn’t today the last day of Parliament with another two week recession ?
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:26am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        No, yesterday was. So the government can’t be grilled about this in the House until Tuesday 27th November.
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:32am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Lots of time then for new information about Karel Sroubek’s contacts to come to light.
        
        How did his in-laws (in Russia) manage to buy that $2.2M Remuera Home?
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:36am
      - Peter S
        
        I think parliament may have a two week recess.
        Unfortunately the recession that is likely to result from this government will be much longer.
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:36am
    - VicParking
      
      Sorry Sooty I’m a day behind, the batteries on the partners vibrator went flat.
      
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      November 9, 2018 11:47am
      - sooty
        
        You mean you wore them out!
        You lucky bugger!
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:57pm
- fernglas
  
  Sroubek
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:20am
- GazzaW
  
  Those times might be a tad early KS. There would still be time left to get the announcements on to the 6pm TV News which is to be avoided at all costs.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:22am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    No one watches the 6pm news on a Friday Gazza; they’re either at the pub, cooking dinner, or stuck in traffic somewhere.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:40am
    - Tarquin North
      
      I don’t know about this one K.S, it’s a bit like horse racing. Just when you think you’ve got it all worked out and the favourite (ILG) is leading by a couple of lengths from the rest of the field, suddenly out of nowhere comes the unfancied overweight Megan Woods who started slow but is now making so many cock ups she ends up winning by a long nose. It’s possible! Apart from that, Alex Swney reckons Sroubek is a great bloke so obviously there is nothing to see here and we should just move along.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:12am
      - lifesgood
        
        Alex Swney! Hahahaha! What a joke!
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:50am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        So does Jacinda and Clarke’s mate Richie Hardcore.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:58am
- Paulus
  
  You must be joking – it is all everybody else’s fault.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:25am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    No it’s not. It’s John Key’s fault.
    How many times does one have to say it!
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:34am
- hullkiwi
  
  Red Radio did a report too. Their piece painted ILG as being negligent. They interviewed both Aussie Malcolm & Kerry Burke, both whom said key words like drugs, jail would ring alarm bells and they would have read the whole report cover to cover. Woodhouse stated he is still trying to get ILG to confirm why he reversed the deportation order, because to date he has not seen a reason why ILG would have reversed the order.
  
  The worse bit of this situation got the CoL is that even Red Radio are now running the line that ILG had been lying, that he lied to the SLG & that as a result she is lying. As Woodhouse said, ILG will wait for the INZ report which will give him enough information to change his decision.
  
  It is key that National keep the pressure up on this one until ILG is forced to resign.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:24am
  - simpleton1
    
    and “tarry hands” of Ardhern and Peters, in supporting IL-G
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:26am
VicParking

CNN has come out, and of-course Red Radio is pushing it, that the tape, released by the Whitehouse, of Jim Acosta pushing the arm of a intern had been sped up. Yesterday I watched this press conference live on YouTube and it was not sped up at all. If you watch the clip look at the women sitting on the right. She raises her phone up to her face to look at a tweet? or something. She raised it at the normal speed that someone would do that. If the clip was sped up it would look fast and unnatural.
Once again its CNN pushing fake news and Red radio sucking it up like a drunk having their first drink of the day. I would not call it an assault by Jim but he had been told by Trump that his questions were over and had called another questioner. The intern was only doing her job to pass the mic on to someone else. When she reached to get the mic he pulled it away and push her arm. You can sum up Jim Acosta by him calling the press conferences as “Hit” sessions.
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November 9, 2018 8:03am
- tas
  
  Whatever. It’s a nice distraction from the fact that Trump ~~fired~~ demanded the resignation of the attorney general.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:09am
  - VicParking
    
    Drain the swamp.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:11am
    - tas
      
      You do realize that Sessions is a Trump appointee, right?
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:19am
      - fernglas
        
        Unfortunately for him, an appointee with principles.
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:22am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        .. ..but an appointee who was not fulfilling his role to the best extent.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:11am
      - tas
        
        Don the Kiwi: Is the role of the AG to defend the law or to defend Trump?
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:32am
      - Batman
        
        Tas – evidently the rule of law and upholding the constitution isn’t as important when it’s some people’s favourite twistie in charge! ?
        
        Trump may think he’s a mob boss and the AG is there to ‘protect’ him, but he’s sadly mistaken.
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:17pm
- Prince
  
  Agree. Only one country’s leader has issued a doctored transcript or tape of an interview this year – come on up NZ !
  No MSM outrage then of course.
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/09/pm_doesnt_know_what_gdp_is.html
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  It appears that CNN and their media cohorts have declared two years War on Trump.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:27am
- KevOB
  
  Acosta should have been thrown out earlier. Bad manners are his unmaking.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:29am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Security should have come down on him hard
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:04am
    - Nermal
      
      White House staff should have remote off switch for the microphone
      
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      November 9, 2018 3:15pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        CNN do that when someone says what they don’t want to broadcast.
        “Sorry, we seem to have lost that connection”
        4th estate in NZ do the same …….
        
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        November 9, 2018 5:47pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Yes – he’s a rude insulting and narcissistic arsehole. Good riddance – hope he kept away permanently.
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:13am
- Jules99
  
  It’s a nothing story, which tells me that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find Trump hit pieces. The biggest story of the day is Trump’s new AG, Whitaker. So why is neither Stuff nor the NZH running any stories on him? It’s a deflection from the real news.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:31am
  - tas
    
    The Matt Whitaker appointment is extremely interesting. It’s a huge news story, so I’m surprised how little coverage it has gotten.
    
    Normally the deputy AG Rod Rosenstein would become acting AG. But Trump doesn’t want that because the deputy AG is already the one overseeing Mueller. So he appointed Whitaker — a known Muller critic — instead.
    
    The legality of Whitaker’s appointment is questionable and is may reach the supreme court. Things could devolve into a constitutional crisis. The constitution requires senate confirmation for the AG and Whitaker has not been confirmed by the senate. Will the senate push back on this?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:58am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      “The legality of Whitaker’s appointment is questionable “.
      Incorrect. All appointees are at the prtesident’s pleasure, and Rosenstein has compromised himself in the Mueller investgation. Even though it may be usual for the Deputy to take over, it is not necessarily so.
      
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      November 9, 2018 11:15am
      - tas
        
        That’s simply not true unless you believe Trump is above the constitution. The AG needs to be confirmed by the senate. Yes, Trump gets to nominate, but that doesn’t mean he can pick anyone — the senate needs to agree. There is a limited ability to appoint a temporary acting AG without senate involvement, which Trump is invoking. However, the supreme court has previously ruled against Obama abusing that ability. Trump has violated the spirit of the constitution, and there’s a reasonable chance the supreme court will rule that he has violated the text of it.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:30am
      - tas
        
        Before you blindly assert that everything Trump does is legal, please go read up on the law.
        It seems the law is genuinely unclear on this issue and I think it will end up in the supreme court.
        
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        November 9, 2018 1:37pm
      - Batman
        
        Don – quit while you’re behind, buddy.
        
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        November 9, 2018 2:20pm
    - Jules99
      
      Hence the timing – now the R’s have the senate, and he has united them behind him, Trump will have no problem confirming who he wants.
      
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      November 9, 2018 2:45pm
      - tas
        
        The newly elected senate doesn’t come in until January 3rd. Until then it’s still the 51-49 senate.
        
        Even though the senate is controlled by Republicans, they may not like having their constitutional authority so blatantly undermined. It would not surprise me if the senate pushed back on this.
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:20pm
- Harkman
  
  He certainly did touch her, this is the crap that is going on. What is more disturbing is the young lady, after pig head Acosta refused to give her the mic, was forced to squat down in humiliating fashion. Where’s the Metoo movement on this one? Nowhere because the MeToo movement is a leftwing, lesbian movement that simply doesn’t give a shit about all women.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:56am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Acosta had his arse handed to him on a plate, and not before time. WH pass suspended. Could not happen to a nicer prick
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:01am
  - Harkman
    
    He really is an A grade arsehole isn’t he? About a month ago CNN crossed live to him at a Trump rally and he was standing there talking to Wolff/Tapper with the chant “CNN sucks!” loudly reverberating behind him. ?
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:19am
- Fletch
  
  Yep, all the media are pushing the story on Facebook – the Herald, Stuff, Newshub, 1 News, etc. Stuff has video played side-by-side, even slowed down 50% and I can’t see any difference. Anything to spin Acosta’s bad behavior.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:31am
- howitis
  
  Here is a better video:-
  It is from Time Magazine on the incident.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmUAb4Ot_Iw
  1 minute long.
  You see the David Carradine moment from lefty activist Acosta.
  He did accost her.
  
  Note also the comments section where people call Time Mag out for editing out a part favourable to Trump.
  eg
  >>Did you notice the edit? TIME edited out the president saying that we welcome immigrants and need them in this country, as long as they come legally. Why would they edit that out?
  or
  >>Time Why did you not play the full clip….and people wonder why they call you fake news….
  
  it happens at 18 seconds in.
  
  It is a good thing prostitution was legalised in NZ last decade because you really can’t have a situation where prostitutes are illegal and yet lying filthy cheating media scum are actually legit.
  That would be a travesty.
  Daily, lame stream media looks for new depths to burrow into.
  Journey to the centre of dearth.
  
  Oddly, in the USA, prostitution remains illegal in most States while the parasites of media are not.
  Fourth estate my arse.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:54am
Jack5

Now the cries begins about treatment of Maori soldiers who served in World War 1.

And facts are being played with. As when, a Stuff article today includes the statement that Maori served in the RAF in World War 1. The RAF wasn’t formed until 1 April 1918. Maori did not play anywhere near as big a part in NZ’s military effort in World 1 as they did in World War 2.

For perspective, 98,950 New Zealanders served overseas in World War 1, 80 per cent of them volunteers. Of these just over 18,000 were killed. Killed in Maori and Pacifici Islander pioneer battalion:336. About a quarter of the NZ troops, who formed less than 1 per cent of the total British military forces, were born in the UK or Australia – that’s more than 24,000. Number of Maori who served in Maori units: 2227. Number of Pacific Islanders who served: 461.

“Maori” volunteers did serve in other NZ World War 1 units, but many, or most, of these New Zealanders were mixed white-Maori and many identified as white.

No Maori conscripts were sent overseas.

The Stuff article is correct that Maori soldiers were excluded from the New Zealand Division’s Occupation of Germany’s Rhineland as part of the British Army of the Rhine. The Allied Occupation of the Rhineland continued to 1930, and the fact that the French included African troops in the force was used later by the Nazis in propaganda that falsely alleged these black soldiers committed rape and other atrocities against German civilians.

The NZ Division was in the Rhineland only a short time. NZ troops were back in England by April 19, 1919.

Here’s what the NZ official war history site says:

“After the signing of the Armistice, the Pioneers were assigned to the Rhine Garrison and began marching towards the German border. They were stopped on 20 December by orders to proceed to Dunkirk, from where they would be shipped home. The British high command had decided that the old rules should apply; ‘native troops’ would not be used to garrison Germany. The Pioneers resented the attitude, but many were glad to be going home. The battalion sailed for New Zealand on the Westmoreland in March 1919.

This site says the unit “received a rousing welcome with parades and receptions throughout the country. A Maori Pioneer rugby team toured the country, playing a series of provincial games.”

The discriminated against Maori got priority for return home. Other NZ troops lingered in Britain awaiting overwhelmed shipping, and the last didn’t reach home until May 1920. In March, 1919, frustrated, bored NZ troops wanting to go home rioted at Sling Camp, in Wiltshire, England.
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November 9, 2018 8:06am
- Longknives
  
  It appears Maori are trying to hijack the Armistice commemorations for their own agenda.
  They’s better get in line behind Jacinda Ardern…
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:16am
  - Harkman
    
    “They’s better get in line behind Jacinda Ardern” and the baby. Don’t forget Neve, she’s of upmost importance.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:01am
    - sooty
      
      Jethro. Not so much?
      
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      November 9, 2018 2:59pm
- Justitia
  
  Thanks for the research. The rewriting of New Zealand history continues apace. There is a deliberate ethnic cleansing of history and demeaning of its European heritage underway. Besides the humanities, Maori supernatural beliefs have now become mandatory subjects for a degree in the Physical Sciences at New Zealand universities. Freedom of speech is a thing of the past. The future for this country is bleak.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:17am
  - Jazzby
    
    Sadly, the painstakingly accumulated corpus of scientific knowledge and reasoned deliberation, that has advanced the world so immeasurably since the Enlightenment, is in the process of being discarded in favour of primitive, superstitious nonsense that is being promoted by Maori.
    It’s not just a local phenomenon; in many parts of the developed world, if anything is classed as “indigenous” or “ethnic”, then it automatically carries the cachet of desirability.
    The politically correct bandwagon is rolling along fast, and I’m not sure what, if anything, can be done to halt its progress.
    We – and particularly the coming generations – will all have a high price to pay for this arrant stupidity.
    And if, in saying this, I’m a racist, then so be it.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:04am
  - kevn
    
    @Justina… Smacks of the Orwell novel 1984, doesn’t It?
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:15am
    - Justitia
      
      I think even Orwell with his profound imagination would be taken aback by the debasement of reason and historical truth that New Zealand is undergoing. People forget how fragile civilization is, but it can evaporate very quickly taking with it all the knowledge from which it grew.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:54am
- Jack5
  
  I see the Stuff writer is a member of the organisation’s “National Correspondents Team”. Wow! Stuff Special Forces!
  
  You can read about her and the team here:
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99364498/introducing-stuffs-national-correspondents-team
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:30am
- lastmanstanding
  
  My Grandad born in Bolton Lancs. served in the British Army in the Boer War. Came to NZ after that had the choice of Oz or Canada. Was given 1000 acres in the Hokianga to break in and farm. Employed lots locals. Spoke fluent Te Reo. Joined the NZ Army 1914 and fought in France and Belguim at all the big ones. Served until mid 1919. When back to Bolton married my Grand mother and came back to NZ.
  Lots of guys like him. Never talked much about it just like my Dad who served in 21 Battalion from 40 to 45.
  I have both their war records that record everything including dental treatment all their movements leave time such as my Dads in Rome after the Allies had pushed thru.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:13am
- Harkman
  
  Don’t forget it was the lesbian Marxists who really won the First World War.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:20am
wiseowl

Who does Garner think he is?
Seems to think he is there to dictate legislation to politicians.
Regulations to ban smoking in cars and now he is working on a regulation to stop pregnant women drinking.
You cannot legislate behaviour Garner.Report the news don’t make it.
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November 9, 2018 8:07am
secondcumming

My missus takes a lot of interest in Parliamentary affairs these days and watches QT whenever she gets the chance..

Yesterday, she reckoned the girl sitting behind Paula, kept giving her new slim figure ‘envious looks’ every time the Deputy PM stood to speak.

Wimmin, eh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8m25xRenE
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November 9, 2018 8:09am
- GazzaW
  
  That was Sarah Dowie, MP for Invercargill.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:27am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    First time I’ve seen Sarah in the House for about 3 weeks.
    Funny, that.
    
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    November 9, 2018 10:15am
    - Felt
      
      Maybe she is a bit horny and not getting any from her usual?
      
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      November 9, 2018 2:22pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Haha I totally concur. The broad behind is imagining herself in Bennett’s place.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:38am
  - backster
    
    Yeah she was a best looking girl in the house a year ago..either putting on weight or preggers,
    
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    November 9, 2018 10:25am
Inandout

Perhaps Garner could start on the reason cultural babies are still being killed by thugs. Or how Muslim girls have their sexual feelings ripped out.
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November 9, 2018 8:11am
- kowtow
  
  Or why there’s so little in the way of toothbrushes and toothpaste in Northland.
  
  It’s not poverty , it’s laziness.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:38am
Happychappy

Winston denying any conection to Cameron Slater or Simon Lusk and preaching that he has never hired the two Political hit men. I can also remember over the years how he preached the same story over the Vella helicopter saga and the Owen Glenn donation episode but it was found he lied in both of those predicaments and found that he had stretched the truth a tad in both instances. You can now just about connect all the dots and find Winston First has played dirty Politics again and is about to be found out.
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November 9, 2018 8:12am
- Souvlaki
  
  I call BS on this ….WO is blog probably on NZF payroll.
  No OTHER rational explanation for their perpetual support of the faeculant matter eminating from WP .
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:19am
  - Colinxy
    
    It may not require a rational explanation. It’s entirely possible this is “pro bono”. Slater has quite the irrational hatred of non-Collin’s led National.
    
    I could sympathise a little with him when John Key threw him under the bus in 2014…even though Slater doesn’t seem to understand his own rule of “never hug a corpse”. I’m under the impression that Bill English once did something negative with his father, so perhaps that might explain his utu over English. But his continued utu with Bridges running National is irrational.
    
    Slater seems to operate under the saying of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:37am
- sooty
  
  The whiny box as well!
  Where’s our $158,000 as well?
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:21am
  - Harkman
    
    On Election day 2008 (a Saturday) I received a campaign letter from Winston running down Key. Pretty sure campaigning on Election day is a crime too.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:04am
- radvad
  
  I am not sure what you are referring to here but I do find it interesting. At least a couple of times prior to the JLR debacle Winston had darkly inferred some serious trouble was coming the way of National. This raises the question of what did he know, how did he know and, perhaps most significantly, when did he know?
  Could it have influenced his decision to go with Labour?
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:21am
  - peterwn
    
    Winston was probably speculating unless he had far greater insight into JLR than Simon Bridges did. JLR seemed completely ‘straight’ a year ago. Winston simply went with Labour/ Greens because he could wring far more out of them than he could out of National. Concerning JUR, Winston should remember one of Cam’s political rules – ‘never hug a corpse’.
    Winston has made another claim – National would topple two leaders before the next election. He probably thought Simon was going to be history by now, then Judith in due course.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:42am
    - alloytoo
      
      Interesting contrast between Bridges handling of the JLR saga and Ardern’s dealing with her wayward ministers. The JLR issue has been much more personally directed at Bridges, but he seems to absorbed the pressure far better than Ardern, and stayed on message, if any thing his profile appears to have been enhanced (aided by solid caucus support). Ardern by contrasted has looked consistently weak in dealing with hard confrontational issues.
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:06am
- harvey wilson
  
  Three serial liars denying something?
  Forgive my scepticism
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:23am
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I hope everyone has read the Lundy appeal judgement and discovered how lawyers will mangle science.to arrive at a desired conclusion.

A brief summary goes like this.

The small fabric cutouts containing stain material were washed and the resulting elutions were tested for dna, in which was discovered Christine Lundy’s dna along with cow sheep and pig dna. All parties agree with this.

Then the fabric cutouts were carried to Texas by detective Grantham, and he watched them being fixed in formalin and embedded in paraffijn blocks by Rod Miller. The formalin fixing severely damages the dna links in cell nuclei.

Subsequently thin slices are taken for analysis. Later there were attempts to extract dna from these slices and these attempts failed, so we do not know whether cow sheep and pig dna was in these slices. The crown then commissioned a bespoke experiment by the Netherlands forensic institute to show that RNA in these slices were human, and Letitia Sijens from that institute claimed the RNA was probably human. The appeal court has ruled that evidence inadmissable after the leading world expert, Steve Bustin, declared the experiment a complete farce. He is preparing a paper to be peer reviewed and published exposing this fraud by the NFI.

Undaunted the appeal court applied the proviso, and said they were certain of Lundy’s guilt because there was his wife’s dna ASSOCIATED with the shirt stain material. All the evidence showing unknown male dna and cloth fibers beneath both girls’ fingernails, the unidentified fingerprints where the break in occurred, and the absolutely forensically clean Mark, his hair roots, his glasses and his vehicle after the bloodiest slaughter in NZ criminal history are deemed immaterial in the face of this association.

It is a shame that Rod Miller altered this material by adding formalin, and rendering what is sure to be cow sheep and pig dna unrecognisable in the material. This would show that the stains are not Christine Lundy’s brain, but material from the food chain. Mark Lundy would be left snoring off the rum in Petone, while thugs believing he was home, came looking for money believing he had, ready for harvesting.

They were wrong of course, but oh well, today is another day of freedom for all the police lawyers and judges who have meddled with Mark’s life.

Most of the above can be found in the appeal court judgement except the failed attempts to extract dna in a vain attempt to find Christine’s brain. This was a verbal exchange in the appeal court.

http://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/lundy-v-r/@@images/fileDecision?r=405.381746405
Time for some homework team.

It is not a good look internationally this ongoing hoax.
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November 9, 2018 8:13am
- Swifty
  
  Lundy killed his wife and daughter.
  
  With an axe.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:20am
- Jack5
  
  Notsofast, you’re not Lundy himself, posting from inside the slammer, are you?
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:21am
  - Inandout
    
    Wouldn’t be surprised Jack5, the prisons are so slack.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:24am
  - Philview
    
    I have read before of the Lundy 5 hundy motor race. JLR vs Lundy would be quite a race down to Wellington.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:29am
    - Notsofast
      
      A guy called Robertson used Wigram racetrack to show that hammering a petrol car uses exactly 3 times the gas as when most carefully driven. This ratio holds for all vehicles up to super 8s, which use 27 liters/100 around town and 78/100 on the race track. There you have the mathematical explanation for the “missing” petrol. No three trips you see.
      Undaunted, this outstanding evidence was treated like this
      B. Leave to adduce the following affidavits for the purposes of the appeal is
      declined:
      snip
      (b) the affidavit of Bruce Robertson dated 14 June 2017;
      ….
      I suggest you find this affidavit to confirm for yourself how lawyers will ignore science in pursuit of the desired result.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:40am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Driving a car flat out on a racetrack will use three times as much fuel as driving flat out on a road. It’s because on a racetrack you’re constantly braking for sharp corners and then accelerating at full throttle until the next corner.
        On a road, not so much, because most of it is pretty straight.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:02am
      - Notsofast
        
        Mark Lundy was officially timed by the police to average 100.4 kms/hour between Johnsonville and the police cordon, there were 5 sets of traffic lights en route at the time, as well as extended built up areas. No one can do this except by being flat to the floor wherever possible. Mark himself described using the auto gear stick as a manual. This is race track style driving, and explains the very high petrol consumption. All this is well known, but the promoted lawyers chose to write this up as nothing to see here.
        This is outrageous, and it will be fully exposed.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:16am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Averaging 100.4 on that road is a piece of piss. You’d only need to be hitting about 140 on most of the straight bits. And even at a constant 140 a Fairmont would only be using about 15 litres/100km.
        
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        November 9, 2018 10:28am
- Keeping Stock
  
  You need to relax a bit Notsofast; here’s a video for you…
  
  https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:36am
  - Notsofast
    
    Keeping Stock,
    I think you will find a few people relaxed following the appeal court dropping a punch bag into the gymnasium.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:42am
    - harvey wilson
      
      Lundy’s guilty .
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:46am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        He’s guilty twice.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:03am
- peterwn
  
  Who else could have done it? The Prosecution cannot make such a point, but the Defence (as in Bain) or a bystander can.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:47am
  - Notsofast
    
    This is the next step. The crime might be solved using the national dna database and the fingernail dna profiles, but for some reason the police lack the energy. Fortunately the killer has probably gone straight and is unlikely to be a threat to society. This crime was an accident of sorts.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:57am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      The crime is solved. Why are you wasting your time?
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:04am
      - Notsofast
        
        The crime is not solved, and I am faced with the rather grim belief that Philip Morgan QC privately agrees. I am curious to see who will oppose the defence at the supreme court.
        My job is to prove to the general public the crime is not solved. This is in the public interest.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:11am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Lundys guilty , let it go .
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:33am
    - peterwn
      
      No. The Defence could have asked the officer in charge of the case whether the Police had used the national dna database and the fingernail dna profiles to check for other suspects. Seemed the Defence lacked the energy to ask this.
      
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      November 9, 2018 11:26am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      This crime was an accident of sorts.
      
      I call absolute bullshit on that. You don’t do the kind of injuries that killed Christine and Amber Lundy by accident.
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:41pm
      - Notsofast
        
        This was an action designed to scare Mark Lundy into finding some cash. He was holding an invoice for more than 5 hundred thousand, which was not yet due, but it was to be paid to his business partner, who cited this invoice as the source of money for his creditors in turn. One of these creditors became impatient and organised the hit.
        It is believed this creditor was paid from the proceeds of a fire sale property transaction.
        There is a process underway to explain all this.
        Don’t for one heart beat believe the bullshit you have been fed by your cops, or the bullshit about Mark’s propensity to do this hideous crime.
        Rather tell them to grow a set as they say and find the criminals as they are paid to do.
        
        You villagers are in spectacular denial.
        
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        November 9, 2018 1:13pm
      - peterwn
        
        Notsofast – and what insurance policies were there on the victims’ lives?
        
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        November 9, 2018 5:29pm
      - Notsofast
        
        Peterwyn, there was a 200k policy on Christine (and Mark)
        This was due to be increased to 500 each but the paperwork was incomplete.
        Mark knew, at the time of death, that 200 would be the payout. He was entitled to this but it went to Christine’s mother. When she died it went to Christine’s siblings.
        
        200k would solve precisely nothing. Watch what Nigel Latta would say, he killed them both to take up with a fresh young on the vineyard. He is a piece of detritus.
        
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        November 9, 2018 7:22pm
Surely Knott

Simon Wilson reports that Penny Hulse busts G. Sayers for not declaring his trip as a holiday. And tries to throw shade on E. Collins for a trip to the US on Council business to study the election process. But a full report might include Hulses elected members declaration which includes an Iclei contribution of $2k to her trip to the UN Climate Change talks in Frankfurt. Hulse was at the heart of Waitakere’s “Ecocity” programmes where they declared their goal to be the world’s first Agenda 21 city.
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November 9, 2018 8:18am
Jack5

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Which means the Kiwiblog delete function’s broken.
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November 9, 2018 8:18am
holysheet

A farm horse gets stuck in a muddy hole in a field he shouts to the chickens to get the farmer to pull him out .
The farmer is away so one of the chickens drives the farmers ferrari over ropes up the horse and pulls him to saftey ..
A few days later, a chicken falls in the mud hole. The chicken yells to the horse to go and get some help from the farmer.
The horse says “Grab for my dick and pull yourself up”, the chicken does and pulls himself out to safety.
And the moral of the story is
If you are hung like a horse, you don’t need a ferrari to pick up chicks!
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November 9, 2018 8:19am
- Inandout
  
  I think ‘butcher’s hook’ is the phrase you are looking for, the same as Crumpy was believed to possess.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:53am
secondcumming

Signage in major Queen Street retail store…….

[ Due to the ever expanding multiculturalism of our clientele we will not be displaying any festive decorations in the coming month or so. We have decided that all religious celebrations should receive equal recognition so we will be pleasing a wider range of people this way ]
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November 9, 2018 8:20am
- sooty
  
  Well we won’t be shopping there will we!
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:25am
  - Biscuit
    
    secondcumming and sooty, those self same retailers will shortly be bleating to any reporter that will listen that ‘Spending is down! Woe is us!’…
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:33am
  - Inandout
    
    Yes but where?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:55am
- GazzaW
  
  translation: Festive decorations take several thousands of dollars off our bottom line and we have been looking for an excuse for some time to dispense with them without looking like Christmas grinches.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:33am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Are they worried about offending someone who does not like Christmas?
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:19am
- lifesgood
  
  Which shop? We need to know in order to avoid it.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:58am
Monique Watson

Just put in a plug for Anchor butter to the baggers at Whole Foods. Getting ready for Thanksgiving.
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November 9, 2018 8:22am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Wait until Lewis Road Creamery starts selling its butter in the US Monique – their sea salt crystals butter is absolutely to die for!
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:38am
  - Inandout
    
    KS, you mean die with cholesterol?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:56am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      It’s a treat to be enjoyed sparingly Inandout. My butter consumption (and bread, for that matter) has significantly reduced in the last year, as has my weight, my blood pressure and my cholesterol. But when you’re going to have a treat, you make it a good one 😀
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:43pm
oldpark

Talk about a nice little earner and maybe a job for the Consumers Institute. A friend of mine recently got a wake up call on his homeowners Insurance Policy. He got some water damage from a burst hot water tank. He rang his insurance company to lodge a claim. He was well received on his claim by the Insurance Company Employee and given all sorts of advice on how to resolve the water damage.
Then the kicker ,he was asked do you have a credit card to pay the first $500 Dollars Excess.
Talk about an inquiry into NZs Banks for price gouging ,seems NZs Insurance companies are a lot more greedy.
After all many home owners recently had their premiums increased or even doubled.Greedy NZs Insurance Companies have gone further by increasing the so called excess charges on claims. Add that amount of $500 on top of the increased charges . What a great little earner and scam by our so called ready to listen ,ready to gouge NZs Insurance Companies.
Maybe some people in Christchurch had worked it out that Insurance Companies were in really Legalised Crooks. My associates recent wake up call certainly proves that Legal Thieves get away with gaming and gouging people who are in the unfortunate position of finding out just or good their insurance Policies really are.
“To insure or not to insure”,that is the Question.Go figure.
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November 9, 2018 8:25am
- Jules99
  
  We were talking about this the other day. My mum, like many superannuatants, is really struggling with the insurance premium increases.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:37am
  - Paulus
    
    Perhaps it is because the claims made are now being assessed more for Risk – the foundation of all insurance.
    You live in a quake or flood area you now are assessed for the possible claims from historical and experience – Risk.
    Ask the people of Christchurch who say that everybody should pay for their losses.
    
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    November 9, 2018 1:54pm
- secondcumming
  
  In defense of some Insurance companies, last year on the recommendation of a friend, we switched all our personal & business cover away from our long time Broker and directly to AA Insurance. Twice the service for about half the premiums. Couldn’t be happier.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:40am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    A few years ago I dumped AA and went with the broker I had used just for business insurance.
    
    The reason: With AA the service stopped as soon as the premiums were received.
    
    In particular I changed address and AA refused to acknowledge that change.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:56am
  - sooty
    
    Have a look at what your property and belongings are worth and what the insurance would pay out. You can also increase the excess as well to reduce premiums. The trouble is that the premiums are really loaded front end to cover their yearly costs and does not make a great deal of difference on a lower price to a higher price.
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:58am
- waikatogirl
  
  Talking with our insurance guy he told us vehicle insurance is rising rapidly as damaged vehicles are becoming incredibly expensive to repair due to the increase in technology. Everything has sensors and cameras so gone are the days of cheaply replacing bumpers, or wing mirrors, etc. If you have a fleet of vehicles get ready to pay big increases.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:24am
dcrown

RBG must resign immediately. She’s obviously not fit to be on the SCOTUS.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-ruth-bader-ginsburg-admitted-to-hospital-after-fracturing-three-ribs-in-fall/

I hope the pun in the headline was intended!
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November 9, 2018 8:39am
- Harkman
  
  When Kavanaugh was confirmed recently she was there watching. She is way too past it for an important role like the Supreme Court.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:10am
- rangitoto
  
  The Dems will be keeping Ginsburg on life support for as long as possible.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:17am
- Fletch
  
  Gawd, just imagine having to go through another confirmation process if she retires. And what nominee would be brave enough to accept, with the prospect of having his whole life examined and any little wrong thing he did brought to public attention?
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:38am
EAD_TWO

Came across this in today’s Jerusalem Post:

JEWISH AMERICANS ARE NOW THE FACE OF TRUMP RESISTANCE (capitalisation theirs)

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-Americans-are-now-the-face-of-Trump-resistance-571363

You couldn’t be anymore pro jew or pro Israel than Trump, but that still isn’t enough for these people

People are noticing.
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November 9, 2018 8:46am
- harvey wilson
  
  Obsessed much?
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:36am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Don’t you mean “noticing much”?
    
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    November 9, 2018 10:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO, Jews in the Trump cabinet and administration,
      
      https://www.geni.com/projects/Jews-in-the-Trump-Administration/41458
      
      INot noticing anything!
      
      IDIOT!
      
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      November 9, 2018 10:49am
      - Tall Man
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
        steffy is a girl.
        
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        November 9, 2018 11:12am
Monique Watson

“A German midget jumped into the river yesterday to save my precious little dog who was drowning…
…After he climbed out he handed me the dog and said “Here is ze dog, keep him varm and dry him off and he vil be fine”…
…I said to him “Are you a little vet?”
He replied “A little vet?”….. “I’m fucking soaked”
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November 9, 2018 8:49am
Thought Criminal

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12157201

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern still has confidence in Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway.

They were too lazy to do any preparation for government when they were in opposition. Now it turns out they are too lazy to read documents actually bother governing while they are in government.

Not surprised.
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November 9, 2018 8:56am
- sooty
  
  Comrade Cindy while you are recieving the arse card from Slease, you might want to get one each from three pies and twitford, put pies on the top as you will need hers first, undated of course.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But this morning, a spokesman for the Prime Minister said she still has confidence in Lees-Galloway.
  
  “As she has consistently said, she has confidence in the minister, not the decision,” the spokesman said.
  
  Lees-Galloway maintains that he was thorough in making his decision, and has since gone back, read the entire case file, and stands by the decision based on the information he had at the time.
  
  Black is white and white is black
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:12am
  - simpleton1
    
    yes, Ardhern’s “tarry black” fingers are all over it, as you earlier mentioned. Thank you.
    
    Winston Peters “tarry black” fingers are also in support of Ardhern and IL-G.
    
    Just keep connecting the dots so the full picture, will appear.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:17am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    Orwell would be proud
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:59am
    - Nermal
      
      Is 1984 part of the Coalition Agreement?
      
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      November 9, 2018 3:28pm
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    How she can have NOT confidence in a crap decision, but DOES have confidence in the person who made the crap decision?
    
    The bad decision didn’t just arrive by itself.
    
    This woman’s ability to split hairs and turn logic upon its head is becoming legendary!
    
    I wonder if she knows how desperate that comment actually sounds.
    
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    November 9, 2018 1:55pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I’m remembering that David Clark minister of health admitted way back with the poo in the hospital walls debacle that he admitted he had not read the file, and also didn’t Shane Jones say he never read a report before pontificating on a policy. Seems a pattern of not doing the work has been confirmed. COL, not fit for purpose.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:34am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And Stuart Nash admitted to a select committee that he hadn’t read a report about Labour’s plans for 1800 new cops.
    
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    November 9, 2018 12:47pm
- rangitoto
  
  Probably means ILG was just following orders.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:19am
  - sooty
    
    Been told what to do, think and say!
    By who?
    
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    November 9, 2018 3:09pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

Is it too late for SHAG to get elocution lessons ?
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November 9, 2018 8:56am
- MCos
  
  Doesn’t seem to hold back Simon Bridges.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:10am
  - Tall Man
    
    So what held you back then?
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:10pm
- Garbageman
  
  I am willing to give Shag a pass SC especially when we have a PM that sounds like a half stoned bogan that manages to massacre the English language on a daily basis
  
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  November 9, 2018 1:56pm
Inandout

It is announced, the princess is covering Sleeze Galopaway’s bum. He is staying.
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November 9, 2018 9:01am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Of course he is.
  We won’t know the real reason for the decision until the client list comes out.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:08am
  - lifesgood
    
    Oh but reading between the lines I think we all do know the reason. I hope to heaven it comes out. Someone, surely, will out it
    
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    November 9, 2018 10:01am
    - Inandout
      
      Even so called journalists are now sniffing around MPs and their habits. I tried to read between the lines but powder makes me sneeze.
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:08pm
- Gravelroad
  
  OK so now he can join the ranks of the other MP’s lacking in integrity and honesty.
  By the way, has there been any update on the status of Meka Whateri MP – or have I missed it?
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:48am
kowtow

The AfD are correct. The MSM and other parties want the west over run.

“Millions of people from crisis-stricken regions around the world are being encouraged to get on the road,” said AfD leader Alexander Gauland. “Leftist dreamers and globalist elites want to secretly turn our country from a nation state into a settlement area.”

https://www.dw.com/en/german-parliament-rows-over-un-migration-compact/a-46213002
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November 9, 2018 9:11am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Overrun? For what purpose?
  
  Let’s assume that Europe is run by a group of “elites.” Such an aristocracy would want the masses to work in their interests and to be productive to support the lifestyles of those at the apex.
  The elites would “farm” the masses. They would encourage their base populations to become passive and productive.
  The very last thing the farmers would want would be the disruption posed by a new strain of unproductive, demanding and aggressive animal.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:54am
waikatogirl

TV3 AM poll Should ILG resign as Minister of Immigration:

YES 81%
NO 19%
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November 9, 2018 9:13am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  So should Ardern. She’s incompetent, lacks intelligence and is dishonest. Totally unsuited to the role of Prime Minister of NZ.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:06am
  - sooty
    
    If Comrade Cindy was to resign who gets top job?
    
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    November 9, 2018 3:11pm
RW Capitalist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election
Seems Trump had the best result in decades.
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November 9, 2018 9:15am
- tas
  
  I agree that the result was not bad for Trump, but 2002 is hardly “decades” ago.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:41am
cmm

So PriNZess, you say the immigration NZ system is broken.

You have also guaranteed they will do a perfect job of vetting the hundreds of Manus Islanders rejected from Australia.

Can’t have both.

Which is it going to be?
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November 9, 2018 9:17am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  How will Manus Island detainees (of fighting age) benefit New Zealand?
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:34am
  - cmm
    
    They will increase PriNZess’s chances of getting her UN gig.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:50am
- Paulus
  
  But it will only be the Children from Manus/Nauru Islands via Australia in the 150 per year.
  Their families will follow fromall around the world, like Zaoui who it is reported brought in 18 relatives.
  I see that 187 people selected to go to the USA have now declined as they were told there would be no jobs, welfare or houses, so they would like to go to Australia instead.
  
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  November 9, 2018 2:01pm
stoptheboats

today will be interesting for the Gayford/Aroha lead govt.

Wally will get let off, Wipeters gave a big clue to that during QT this week.The labour and nzf whanau gang will veto any firm action anyway.

ILG may yet survive, given his Union links and the need for some drongo to push thru the 1970s Workplace Re-Enactment & Memorial Bill.

Adern will be busy being kind to everybody, packing bags for APEC New Guinea and arranging photoshoots for CNN,Vogue and Womens Day on the sidelines. I guess labour will book an A380 for her this time so theres enough room for the media hacks and assorted Film crews needed for Election campaign footage
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November 9, 2018 9:24am
cmm

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12157239

So ILG won’t resign.

I suppose there’s no incentive for him to do so.

A minister earns $130k a year more than a back-bencher. Every day he can cling to office is an extra $500 or so.
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November 9, 2018 9:28am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Agree, he will never resign. Then there’s the problem of spilling the beans if sacked. There are people who want him to be quiet – mark my words. There is one hell of a lot we are not being told. As I said, look at the Czech’s client list. I suspect all sorts of corruption – some at a high level. Look at who was at the wedding. 4th estate are not doing their job, or are they under orders to STFU
  
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  November 9, 2018 3:41pm
Harkman

Here’s a non-political funny one for you all. Last night at about 12:30 I woke to hear a screeching noise. It sounded like pipes with a pressure problem. But the noise was just outside my window, so no pipes. Maybe cats were having a standoff, or maybe a hedgehog but couldn’t see any. Then after 5 minutes of worry, putting on the light to see clearly, I noticed a snail slowly sliding down the window. It sounded like nails slowly being scratched across a chalk board. ?
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November 9, 2018 9:33am
Sofia

Which took the longer –
• Minister Lees-Galloway contemplation of the Sroubek case or
• the horse trading between Winston, for his support in banning further gas and oil exploration, and Shaw, for the Green support for Winston’s wake-jumping bill and Ardern, for any research into the banning deal, wishing to virtual signal the ban to the French, but probably in fact insulting them because they have to import 95% of the gas they use, as they virtually have none themselves?
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November 9, 2018 9:33am
DJ Ward

I’m actually quite a greeny thinking person.

My support for wind, solar, etc.
But realism is unavoidable to any debate.

Some bight spark wants to close of some streets and make them pedestrian only. Due to pollution.
So the argument is correct. To stop harm to humans you stop the pollution. Something you could do for little cost with barriers.

But if it’s permanently pedestrian Buisiness might suffer. Conducting commerce in this area may be so less viable without car traffic that they close down. Over time the area may change completely in regard to the type of business operating their.

Then there is the future. Humans have shown repeatedly that once a technology reaches a functional, viable threshold the uptake happens quickly. It modernises fast, and becomes cheaper initially quickly, then little bits more as improving inventions come about.

We are somewhere on that path with electric vehicles. Twenty years into the future could see a much smaller ICE fleet, and mostly electric cars.

Why should the non polluting Buisiness be punished. If I owned XYZ Lmt and had a 100% staff EV car fleet, only transported goods into or from that location with an EV van (eg stock), or EV bikes (pizza). Would they deserve compensation for this loss of ability to trade?

They could go full EV using only, so hybrids ok if petrol turned off, tomorrow. Just a few signs and instant fines from those breaking the rules, that cover the cost of collecting the fines, plus some cream.

Or wait for that 20 years and no problems to fix anyway.

Or spend a fortune redeveloping to pedestrian only. Significant disruption. For debatable gains.
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November 9, 2018 9:35am
Odakyu-sen

I remember those nasty little diesel trucks in Japan in the 1990s. They produced a lot of sooty smoke. Horrible little things.
The Tokyo government tightened up regulations to improve the air quality. What do you think happened to all the stinky trucks?
They were exported, and many of the little smokers ended up in Auckland.
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November 9, 2018 9:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Is that so? And would pass a warrant of fitness exhaust emissions standard requirements?
  
  https://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/exhaust/exhaust-emissions
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:13am
    - sam green
      
      Tall Man is twelve.
      
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      November 9, 2018 3:07pm
secondcumming

Just saying…….

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrfnXgFXQAcM_S-.jpg
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November 9, 2018 9:50am
- DJ Ward
  
  Fishing, hopefully. Should be seeing some big kingfish looking for the baby Kahawai.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:06am
Yvette

The Prime Minister says she does not want a review into the decision not to deport convicted Czech drug smuggler Karel Sroubek to turn into a witch-hunt.

Is Ardern’s propaganda, telling us how to think, worse than jumping to conclusions …

Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters says the buck does not stop with a minister when mistakes are made by officials. Peters says officials to blame in Sroubek case.
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November 9, 2018 9:54am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Voters are to blame in the case of the demented lush pulling the strings of this inept government
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:10am
- Komata
  
  Yvette
  
  The two obvious questions:
  
  1. Who was paid (and how much)?
  
  2. What has the Czech ‘Got’ on top members of the NZLP?
  
  Curiously, the MSM appear to be seriously averse to asking these questions.
  
  One has to wonder why…
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:24am
  - Yvette
    
    It seems simple enough –
    The Czech Republic were just waiting for what they mistakenly thought would be Sroubek’s swifter deportation.
    Now that appears screwed –
    
    Czech Republic to seek extradition of drug smuggler Karel Sroubek from NZ –
    An Interpol listing online states Sroubek is wanted in the Czech Republic for disorderly conduct, damaging of another’s property, and attacking a law enforcement officer.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/370059/czech-republic-to-seek-extradition-of-drug-smuggler-karel-sroubek-from-nz
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:09am
- stigie
  
  Ian leave go away !~
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:24am
DJ Ward

I did say that Simon needed to find something to divert attention from the JLR saga by attacking Labour back with something that is wrong and the public would see as abhorrent, or similar.

Simons actions in doing that with our imprisoned, refugee, drug importer, gang associate, has at least worked.

The MSM probably run out of click bait for JLR but that’s beside the point.

It’s politics as well. The soft on crime narrative but with an example exposing it. One that the swing voters don’t like as well.

One uptick for Simon from me.
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November 9, 2018 10:21am
- cmm
  
  Simon does not have to do anything about JLR.
  
  The toxic mantle of JLR has gone and settled on Winston First.
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:28am
Jack5

Incident at Auckland mall.

Stephiestani Trolls Ltd is holding an urgent roll call of its operatives.
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November 9, 2018 10:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Good Morning Moron!
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:01am
  - Tall Man
    
    It is a great morning. Do you really say that to yourself every day? How tedious.
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl.
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      Good day to you Moron No 2!
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:04pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy ,goat fancier since _____________?
        
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        November 9, 2018 5:20pm
      - Tall Man
        
        You’re such an easy bug to squash, dual personality and all, except in your case, all your personalities are morons, just like your leader.
        
        How’s the immigration bullshit sitting? Not easy getting your bullshit shoved back up your arse is it? Still, that’s what you get when you support an immature liar put in place by a very dubious old man. Perhaps you should see if the baubles for winston include a special time with the toothy one..or do his peccadilloes run in another direction? Maybe he’d be more interested in you if you weren’t such a girl.
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
        steffy is a girl
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:33pm
    - MCos
      
      Years ago it used to be common to insult a male by calling them a ‘girl’ as if women were somehow inferior.
      In certain cultures around the world that seems to still be the case Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Vatican, pretty much any religion cult.
      
      Which one are you?
      
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      November 9, 2018 12:07pm
      - Tall Man
        
        As explained earlier, it is a comment not an insult. Now I’m not saying you’re too thick to have discerned that but look at the moniker, stephie boy.
        
        Not hard to figure out plus the language of the comments indicate more than one using the account and generally female.
        
        And which culture am I, just some old white rich dude, nothing overly special but smarter than most if not all the unpaid, under educated immature interns that labour keep flicking on this site in an attempt to obfuscate and distract.
        
        Cheers
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:38pm
      - sam green
        
        And tall man is twelve.
        
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        November 10, 2018 11:40pm
wreck1080

Dodgy Auckland council…Why no commentary on this…Greg Sayers should be sacked. This is the council that spends more than a billion bucks a year.

If I did this to my employer, I’d be sacked. So, what is so special about Greg Sayers ?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156847

Councillors gone awol. Councillor Greg Sayers was in the Cook Islands recently. So, coincidentally, was Councillor Penny Hulse. She bumped into him in the Muri Night Market on Rarotonga.

Hulse was on holiday. But Sayers wasn’t. His absence had been recorded as “council business”, although he wasn’t doing any business for the council.

“Hi Greg,” Hulse apparently said to him. “What a surprise.”

Sayers promptly contacted council officials and asked for the record to be changed so he too, was listed as being on holiday. At a council meeting shortly after, when the minutes were being confirmed, he made a point of clarifying that he had been absent on leave, not on council business.
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November 9, 2018 11:10am
Monique Watson

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/108418548/antidepressant-prescriptions-on-the-rise-but-mental-health-isnt-improving–study

This is a dangerous angle to push. I stayed away from pills for years thinking they would turn me into a zombie or change my personality. What that attitude got me is a hard out round with the booze to self-medicate. I’m a pretty heavy drinker when I get going too. Hubby said he’s never blown more than a .2 in his life. I’ve blown a .43 and still been standing;) I know because I had to walk into rehab.

Was at a meeting the other day. Topic was three things we are grateful for. I said hot wax, Botox and my hairdresser.

You just gotta add other things into your life. Not just rely on pills.
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November 9, 2018 11:15am
- Monique Watson
  
  Haha. Botox and sense of humour.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:34am
  - DJ Ward
    
    I think we are the Guinea Pig generation for brain chemistry research.
    
    There are plenty of bad examples of experiments. A lot was learnt from dictators using meth.
    
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    November 9, 2018 11:40am
- cmm
  
  Monique, I genuinely wish you all the best.
  
  Booze doesn’t drown your problems. It just teaches them to swim.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:49am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Thanks cmm. Found out the hard way. Have a few good stories from around the traps though! 🙂
    
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    November 9, 2018 2:00pm
- secondcumming
  
  MW, I can just hear your hubby’s dad saying…….
  “It’s a hard road finding the perfect woman, boy”
  
  😛
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:53am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Mine said “You never make up for the ones you miss out on.”
    
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    November 9, 2018 12:10pm
Lance

I just listened to some silly old bugger on Leighton Smith who was dismayed Winston got up in front of a lot of old fogies and said how he would keep National honest and stop them drifting left.
So the fools all voted for him.
Now they consider him a lying old backstabbing turd.
Trouble is, the Alzheimer’s will work in Winstons favour next time around as well
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November 9, 2018 11:20am
- Paulus
  
  And they will still believe that he is keeping National honest and will vote for him again.
  They will only stop when after three days he rises again.
  
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  November 9, 2018 2:06pm
MCos

Somebody at Manukau Mall held a woman hostage for an hour and a half with a knife this morning before the police sorted the situation out.
All that I’ve otherwise heard is that she is pregnant, was up from Chch with her 12yo daughter and didn’t know the guy. Who he was I suppose we’ll have to wait till he’s appeared in court to find out.
Meanwhile in California a guy kills eleven people in a bar plus himself. Straightaway we know all sorts of details about his identity, police record, mental state etc
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November 9, 2018 11:25am
- DJ Ward
  
  The US shooting.
  The internet has got some top notch people using it. The media will have a few that can get anything they want to know about a person, probably as easy as the police can.
  
  The beginning of these events is often clouded by misinformation due to human factors. What’s found on the internet might also not be true, or a biased snapshot of the person or events.
  
  I prefer to have an open mind at this point.
  It does sound like he has some recent mental health issues. Along with suicide obviously.
  
  It’s yet to be determined why this group of people. Or targeting of an individual as part of what took place.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:57am
- Tall Man
  
  What he said above, although I suppose you’d prefer that he gets pilloried in the press before we understand exactly what did happen both today and prior to this event.
  
  I also believe the victim may prefer a modicum of privacy but hey, if you need to know, fuck every one else.
  
  Ardern is a liar
  
  steffy is a girl
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:43pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

I love the smell of roasted Labour goneburgers in the morning.

Off he goes to join Curran.
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November 9, 2018 11:42am
RightNow

Is Tracey Martin David Parker in drag, or is it the other way round?
And what time this arvo do you think the Haumaha report will be quietly released?
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November 9, 2018 11:48am
- cmm
  
  Today’s 4:40 pm Friday afternoon special is:
  
  Two for the price of one: ILG and Haumaha.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:52am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I don’t think the Haumaha report will be released because Winnie won’t allow it.
    
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    November 9, 2018 12:44pm
Longknives

So Eddie Jones said to Media that he’s not really interested in the All Black Haka (and why would he be?)
He then made a light -hearted comment that he is more interested in the Spice Girl’s reunion!
NZ Media and Rugby fans are now going ballistic-
‘Waaah he’s disrespecting our culture’ etc etc
Jesus All Black fans are precious…..
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November 9, 2018 11:51am
- DJ Ward
  
  What definition of reunion was he using. Is there a video?
  
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  November 9, 2018 12:03pm
rangitoto

So the banana republic of Aotearoa is running out of bananas. What is Cindy doing about it?
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November 9, 2018 12:09pm
- DJ Ward
  
  She is telling my child who drags a chair over to the kitchen bench, climbs up, steals a banana from the fruit bowl, then eats it. No pealing as he just spits the skin bits out on the floor. No more bananas for you.
  
  It’s Cindys fault you can’t enjoy your favourite activity son. Don’t believe everything the ladies at play school teach you.
  
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  November 9, 2018 12:21pm
- cmm
  
  Just get your apples to self identify as bananas.
  
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  November 9, 2018 1:40pm
Happychappy

Obviously Labour are in damage mode and have given internal poll information to TV 3 AM Show Host Duncan Garner to spout and over ride the negative media commentary over Lees Galloways decision to allow the criminal drug dealer residency after a quick flick through his file lasting less than 1hour.. Garner has Labour on 47% and National 39% and was asking Judith Collins to justify why Simon hadn’t fallen on his sword over this result.
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November 9, 2018 12:18pm
- DJ Ward
  
  I find the 1 hour decision a bit disturbing.
  
  Summary from officials.
  
  Involved in crime in home country.
  Fears persecution by police, and individuals.
  Fraud entering NZ.
  List of accused offences. 1,2, 3 strikes.
  Guilty resulting in 2 years plus prison time, and he’s out.
  
  5 minutes max.
  
  They wouldn’t survive in the corporate world.
  
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  November 9, 2018 12:30pm
Fletch

Phil, from Duck Dynasty, points out Jim Acosta’s last name and how fitting it is, in that he ‘accosted’ the President.

https://www.facebook.com/CRTV/videos/253468271949579/
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November 9, 2018 12:36pm
- Morrissey
  
  Yeah, he’s a really witty guy, that bearded oaf.
  
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  November 10, 2018 8:49am
stoptheboats

re aCoster, Garners about the same in NZ , rude etc, no respect.Pity we havent got any leaders remotely like Trump that know how to deal with these pricks
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November 9, 2018 12:52pm
- Morrissey
  
  But Trump doesn’t know how to deal with him. He had no intelligent answer to give him. All he did was heap abuse on him.
  
  Trump is a joke. A sick joke that only the stupid appreciate.
  
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  November 10, 2018 10:21am
DJ Ward

Best quote on the election of Dennis Hof, RIP, to the Nevada State Assembly. By a voter.

“A dead Republican beats a female Democrate any day”

Only in the US.
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November 9, 2018 12:58pm
Manolo

The EU rules unopposed:
http://www.cityam.com/268617/eus-highest-court-decide-whether-uk-can-reverse-brexit
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November 9, 2018 1:17pm
cmm

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156876

So prisoners will get their vote back.

Bullshit.

If you have managed to find your way to prison then you are a poor decision maker. Not once, not twice, but many times.

If you are in prison because you cannot even be trusted to make good decisions about your own life.

Why should someone who can’t be trusted to make good decisions for their own life be allowed to make decisions about all of our lives?
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November 9, 2018 1:19pm
- DJ Ward
  
  The extreme would be that the so called good people impose ideology on groups.
  
  Shouldn’t that group be able to vote for a candidate to represent their view.
  
  Or if the majority ban capitalism and seize the assets of Buisiness owners and imprison them with a new law. Removing democracy from the oppressed.
  
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  November 9, 2018 1:54pm
- Northland Wahine
  
  We could argue there are plenty of those outside of prisons that shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
  
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  November 9, 2018 3:13pm
- tas
  
  Prisoners will not get their votes back due to this. The court issued a declaration of inconsistency, which means diddly squat.
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:46pm
Manolo

Anything is possible in today’s Italy: a rabid left-winger and EU parliamentarian wants to create the Afro-Italian Power Party.
https://www.francescostorace.eu/ci-mancava-il-partito-africano-della-kyenge/
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November 9, 2018 1:38pm
stoptheboats

that Sian lady is extreme left wing PC activist, remember Foreshore Seabed nonsense decision. I hate to think what sort of replacement will be nominated by no-braces
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November 9, 2018 1:41pm
Paulus

Sian Elias’s succession replacement was decided some years ago by Helen Clark, Heather Simpson and Margaret Wilson.
A woman of course, but guess which one of the two ?
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November 9, 2018 2:10pm
- sam green
  
  Heather Simpson is not a lawyer and Margaret Wilson has retired I think.
  
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  November 9, 2018 3:06pm
  - sooty
    
    And they are both not woman!
    
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    November 9, 2018 3:22pm
    - sam green
      
      Er sooty – Specsavers?
      
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      November 9, 2018 4:33pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Proclivities I think is what he is referring to.
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:36pm
      - sam green
        
        Heather Simpson is a lesbian. Margaret Wilson is not. Both are women. Your point?
        
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        November 9, 2018 4:43pm
      - sooty
        
        Are you sure?
        Have you had your hands in their pants?
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:02pm
      - sam green
        
        No sooty – yourself?
        
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        November 10, 2018 12:33am
  - rangitoto
    
    Where does it say a lawyer is required?
    Edit – from courts of NZ site:
    
    “All superior court judges (Supreme Court, Court of Appeal and High Court) are High Court judges. Section 94 of the Senior Courts Act 2016 provides that no person shall be appointed a judge unless he or she has had a practising certificate as a barrister or solicitor for at least seven years. This is the bare minimum for appointment as a High Court judge. :
    
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    November 9, 2018 5:27pm
    - sam green
      
      Heather Simpson is neither a barrister nor solicitor afaik. I could be wrong.
      
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      November 9, 2018 5:38pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Long before she became Helen’s right-hand help-mate she was an Economics lecturer at Otago.
        
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        November 9, 2018 6:10pm
      - sam green
        
        That’s right Maggy – you old googler you.
        
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        November 9, 2018 7:16pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @sam green
        
        I was a Wellington Public servant for yonks (on & off)…even worked in one of Helen’s Ministries.
        It pays to know who you are dealing with/talking to.
        
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        November 9, 2018 7:22pm
      - sam green
        
        Yes Maggy – it does.
        
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        November 9, 2018 7:32pm
Longknives

Every Kiwiblogger should read oobs 2.32pm post over on the Sroubek thread…
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November 9, 2018 3:38pm
- Sarkozygroupie
  
  It’s explosive stuff alright.
  
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  November 9, 2018 3:54pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Every journalist should read it as well and we might get some decent investigation going on.
    Or maybe not.
    
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    November 9, 2018 4:21pm
    - Wired-one
      
      If you’re expecting Ardern to be grilled on why she is not asking for ILG to resign, you will be waiting awhile. The MSM is so in love with our toothy leader, she can literally do no wrong, its pathetic and a disgrace to democracy.
      
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      November 9, 2018 5:24pm
      - nasska
        
        Will no-one think of the baybee?
        
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        November 9, 2018 5:26pm
      - Morrissey
        
        If you’re expecting Ardern to be grilled…
        
        Please don’t use evocative words like “grilled” in relation to the gorgeous Jacinda; you’ll only cause dear old Cap’n Mainwaring’s brain to fizz up and spill over its cargo of lurid thoughts.
        
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        November 9, 2018 6:26pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”the gorgeous Jacinda”…..
        
        You’re blind or desperate. Go & feed your seeing eye dog or book an escort!
        
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        November 9, 2018 6:32pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Link is here.
  
  Old Jethro eh?
  
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  November 9, 2018 4:55pm
  - sam green
    
    “uncorroborated hearsay” – oob said it.
    
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    November 9, 2018 4:57pm
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      Upticked you by accident. So sorry!
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:30pm
      - sam green
        
        Same
        
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        November 10, 2018 12:32am
- lifesgood
  
  If oobs knows about it others must so where’s the person with the guts to expose it? If this is true and not exposed it is simply appalling, beyond outrageous and reprehensible of those who know it but keep quiet.
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:42pm
- gorse
  
  I suspect National have got this information. I was suspicious earlier in the week as to why Simon Bridges was putting the heat on the PM by asking several times had pressure been put on the Immigration Minister to make the descision he had. Possibly more to this.
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:14pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Prosecutors do tend to base their questions around the evidence they already possess.
    
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    November 9, 2018 7:22pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Yes, Cindy ‘flomped’ into her seat with a scowl at Simon that would curdle milk after he asked that question. ?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:33pm
Inandout

Police can attend gay parade, but only dressed as poofs.
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November 9, 2018 5:03pm
- sam green
  
  Is this a headline somewhere?
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:26pm
- softail 1450
  
  inandout, the cops have an excuse next year to tell the poofs to fuck off when “shit” gets out of hand at the 2019 fisting finals,,,,,,,,,LOL.
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:54pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Don’t the police have a “rainbow” patrol car that they can use for gay parade operations?
  
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  November 9, 2018 6:23pm
Morrissey

Freefall

https://thestandard.org.nz/latest-poll-results-national-in-freefall/
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November 9, 2018 5:40pm
- Morrissey
  
  I see one diehard National supporter has downticked this.
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:51pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I see one diehard terminal lefty fuckwit has posted it.
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:30pm
- lifesgood
  
  Do their readers actually believe this crap?
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:52pm
- rangitoto
  
  Have liarbore been polling their MP’s again.
  
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  November 9, 2018 5:56pm
  - Inandout
    
    They are pissed off Judith isn’t in the hot seat.
    
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    November 9, 2018 5:58pm
    - Morrissey
      
      I imagine all Labour supporters—i.e. the majority of the country—are quite happy to see the Crusher and her equally gruesome accomplice Paula the Snitch steadily destroying Mr Seven Per Cent.
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/10/liars-of-our-time-no-59-judith-crusher.html
      
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      November 9, 2018 6:31pm
      - sooty
        
        Bloody hell morris chancer piss off and stop trying to get people to your own blog.
        
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        November 9, 2018 7:55pm
      - Swifty
        
        What sort of asshole uses another person’s blog to driver traffic to their own tumbleweed blog?
        
        An asshole, that’s who.
        
        A dirty, scabby, lowlife asshole.
        
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        November 9, 2018 8:00pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Ah the infamous Labour Internal Polling that always seems to have Labour’s 5-10 points above media polling. Remember all the talk of internal polling numbers during Angry’s rein? Or the way they talked it up pre-election before getting only 37%?
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:25pm
Odakyu-sen

This is a good nugget of information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsngamFa1ps

I am sorely tempted to take one of those discounted Air NZ return flights to Tokyo and simply pig out on the food for a week.
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November 9, 2018 6:31pm
- sooty
  
  Trev and big Gerry did it all in 24hrs.
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:53pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-46130189

Pakistan blasphemy case: Asia Bibi freed from jail
08 November 2018

TVNZ One News Reports on Bibi’s release tonite and highlights just how vile repressive and stoneage Pakistan is.

Perhaps Ian Pees Hell-Away, the communist mule and Golriz Garbagebin might light to pause from sucking the O.I.C.’s cock and grant Bibi asylum in NZ?

Dreams are free!

Both Winston Peters and Ian Pees Hell-Away have signed away NZ’s sovereignty to the UN Migration Compact while the US Hungary Croatia Austria et al have told the UN ahem the O.I.C. to get f×÷ed.

https://free-speechfront.blogspot.com/2018/11/shock-as-bulgaria-romania-serbia-and.html?m=1

Shock as Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia and Greece Declare war against radical Islam, the UN and the EU

NZ = UN Puppet state
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November 9, 2018 6:44pm
rangitoto

So what was Jethro doing with all those lawnmowers?
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November 9, 2018 6:56pm
- MrTips
  
  Maintaining the right cut
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:13pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Weeding between the lines?
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:25pm
  - stigie
    
    That’s cutting !~
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:05pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Jethro’s Lament:
  
  Oh no!
  There’s a law knower who across my lawn mower.
  It’s just a little green, don’t be so mean.
  And perhaps a little white, to help me through the night.
  By the blogosphere I’m so maliciously sought.
  Read between the lines, it was just a little snort
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:27pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    ? ?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:42pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Something going down in Melbourne…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/nov/09/melbourne-bourke-street-police-incident-declared-after-car-in-flames

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/smoke-visible-after-incident-in-melbourne-cbd/10483608
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November 9, 2018 7:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  looks like a lone-wolf terrorist…video showing a guy trying to stab folks
  https://www.theage.com.au/melbourne-news/bourke-street-car-explosion-live-man-shot-after-car-bursts-into-flames-on-bourke-street-20181109-p50f5b.html
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:37pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yup. Already stabbed three people then went after the police who worked really hard to corner/subdue. In the end he was shot.
    
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    November 9, 2018 7:39pm
    - nasska
      
      The rich rewards of diversity!
      
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      November 9, 2018 7:40pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    It will be interesting to learn more about the poor Melborne man with the mental problems (and knife) as well as more about the poor man in South Auckland (with a knife) today who held it to the throat of that woman.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12157416
    
    I am sure the media will tell us the truth…
    
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    November 9, 2018 7:40pm
  - lifesgood
    
    He looked as if he was wearing the long top and slim pants of a middle eastern or pakistani.
    
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    November 9, 2018 7:43pm
    - Southern Raider
      
      You mean Muslim dress
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:52pm
Nostradamus

Where’s Starboard?

Python in toilet bites Thai man on penis

Attaporn Boonmakchuay, 38, told Thailand’s Channel 7 he struggled with the 3-metre python for half an hour after it came up through the plumbing and bit him on the penis.
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“It took about a minute for the neighbour to get here. And all of a sudden, while I was holding it, it began to lose some strength so I used my hand to prise open its mouth. Then the snake released its grip by itself.”

Life in Thailand must be tough. Glory holes, lady boys… and now penis-obsessed pythons!
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November 9, 2018 7:51pm
- Swifty
  
  Never a dull moment as starboard will attest.
  
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  November 9, 2018 7:56pm
- nasska
  
  I understand that our mate starboard is getting on in years. The stress of wrestling snakes & resisting depravity must be taking its toll! 🙂
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:01pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Your reference to “resisting depravity” prompted me to do a Google search for: Thailand + snake + penis.
    
    About 1,750,000 results (0.70 seconds)
    
    I wonder if there’s such a thing as “snake sex tourism”?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:08pm
    - nasska
      
      Doubt it Nostra. Anything that flies, swims, walks or crawls & whose powdered remains harden small oriental members is on the endangered species list. 🙂
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:12pm
  - stigie
    
    Starboard should be ok, he says he’s keeping up the pills and ointment..?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:09pm
    - sam green
      
      … and he’s put the seat back on the bicycle.
      
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      November 10, 2018 12:40am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  That’s a very nasty trouser-snake you have there…
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:08pm
- Swifty
  
  We’re going back to the mid late 70s here but the guy I did my apprenticeship with was a cobra venom consumer – in quantities that took him to the edge but not recoverable from.
  
  This of course was a sideline to his ordinary days activities of cooking hash oil in Katmandhu, smuggling audio gear from India to Pakistan to reap the price differences and cooling off in Thailand – relaxing, shall we say.
  
  It was an interesting 5 years. 🙂
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:20pm
  - nasska
    
    Sounds like an interesting bloke. You were lucky he survived long enough for you to get your ticket! 🙂
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:24pm
    - Swifty
      
      I was lucky I survived nasska. 🙂
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:29pm
    - Swifty
      
      He’s still going, by the way. Now retired in Wellington but still the life of the party.
      
      Did a five spot for smuggling – a number of those he was banged up with I met and am still friends with.
      
      They were better days, a better class of criminal – not like the scumbags you get today.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:46pm
      - nasska
        
        You’re not wrong. A few of them “retired” over the hill here in the Wairarapa. All hard men but a bit past the hassle yet they retained their contacts.
        
        I met a bloke, not unlike your old boss, on one of my “visits” to rehab. He’d spent a fair bit of time as a professional diver on the oil rigs in the South China sea until the piss & drugs got him. He & a mate then bought a yacht & ran dope between Thailand & Cairns.
        
        He was an adrenalin junky. If it wasn’t risky he wasn’t interested. He’s still off the booze but did a few years inside for growing dope.
        
        Works as a meat hunter now & still calls in if he’s passing by.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:00pm
      - Swifty
        
        Agreed.
        
        While I met plenty of scumbags in the 70s and 80s there was an undercurrent of reasonableness to everyone’s behaviour – at least in Wellington where I grew up.
        
        I honestly put this down to that fact that most guys were from good’ish families, Dad served in the war, Mum was salt of the earth etc – and there were lines people didn’t cross. Some did, but they were very few in number.
        
        There days, I think that’s gone for a lot of people. I blame the pipe for a lot too. People lose their soul.
        
        An old family friend started out in minor crime, moved to safe-cracking in the 50’s and 60’s, became a hard man, has now done approximately 35 years inside and helped, I am reliably informed, about a dozen people on their way, is regularly over to the house – making toys for the kids etc. Sitting and yarning.
        
        I trust him completely. But you just don’t get that anymore.
        
        The world has changed nasska.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:37pm
      - nasska
        
        Yes it’s changed Swifty……not all to the good but there’s been many positive aspects too.
        
        I’m an unrepentant social liberal. As such I celebrate the removal of the heavy hand of religious conservatism from every facet of our lives & I hope for further advances.
        
        Yet I acknowledge that a price has been paid for personal freedom.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:54pm
      - Swifty
        
        Agreed.
        
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        November 9, 2018 9:56pm
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    Should we ask what kind of apprenticeship? The mind boggles ?
    
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    November 9, 2018 8:24pm
    - Swifty
      
      Auto-electrical.
      
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      November 9, 2018 8:28pm
Rodney Randall

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0nDEukeRA

Video of latest Melbourne pre xmas celebrations.

Melbourne – Diversity Is Our Strength repeat Diversity Is Our Strength.

2+2=5
Repeat
2+2=5

Anything else is a hate crime and will be policed
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November 9, 2018 8:09pm
- cmm
  
  Bruce gone bonkers again!
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:41pm
DigNap15

Send all muslims back to their shit holes.
(free of charge)
I do not want that sort of diversity!
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November 9, 2018 8:36pm
- cmm
  
  I’m sure we’ll take them instead.
  
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  November 9, 2018 8:44pm
Southern Raider

Australia benefiting again from multiculturalism

Looks like a Muslim just set a car on fire in Burke St, Melbourne and then started randomly stabbing people

This is same street were the Muslim ran down and killed all those pedestrians
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November 9, 2018 8:50pm
- Tall Man
  
  Ardern’s on to it. 3 bed house and a benefit just waiting when the nasty Ockers deport him.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:13pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  But how good is the food?
  
  How will Australians prove to the MSM they’re not Nazis if they don’t allow themselves to be demographically replaced by people’s “of colour”?
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/10/australia-is-deplorably-racist-as-people-of-colour-are-reminded-when-they-speak-up
  
  https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2017/02/27/australia-racist-here-are-10-stunning-stats
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:15pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Just seen the video on theage.com.au
  
  Why did the cops take so long to shoot this piece of shit
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:29pm
- kowtow
  
  Gargasoulas , Greek , not likely to be a Mohman.
  
  There’s another diversity dividend trial on in Melbourne at the moment.
  
  I’m amazed at how the enriched Ozzies put up with it.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/university-of-otago/screams-heard-after-otago-trained-surgeon-punched-court-told
  
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  November 9, 2018 10:14pm
- simpleton1
  
  The article although claiming the Somali was a “lone wolf”, he was actually a “known wolf”
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6370669/Car-smashes-Melbournes-Bourke-Street-Mall-bursts-flames.html
  
  A knife-wielding Somali terrorist has been shot dead by police after crashing a car on Melbourne’s Bourke Street and setting it on fire, before stabbing three shoppers, killing one.
  
  The lone wolf attacker, who a witness claimed was yelling ‘Allahu akbar’ and is known to counter-terrorism agencies , was then rushed to hospital in a critical condition but later died from his wounds.
  
  Officers shot him in the chest after his Holden Rodeo loaded with gas cylinders hit a pedestrian as it mounted the kerb and exploded outside Target near the Swanson Street intersection about 4.20pm on Friday.
  
  Another “known” peaceful and kindly gentleman from a mosque who would not harm a fly.
  
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  November 9, 2018 11:08pm
Happychappy

So the show pony is now saying it will take another two week before we will get any answer on whether the drug dealer will be deported as the system is wrong not Lee’s Galloway and they have to fix the system. Is this another delay to cover some unwanted tracks or does she think the NZ Public are that stupid they will lose interest in the end result and not worry if he is allowed to stay, I think she has misunderstood the mood of people that want to see him deported and Lee’s Galloway Ministerial Warrant removed.
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November 9, 2018 9:10pm
- Tall Man
  
  You only have to look at the comments from the labour interns on this blog to realise just how stupid many people are.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:12pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gad, The Woman is clueless.
  
  That’s another 2 weeks when rumours can run rife.
  
  The only thing we know definitely is that Ms Ardern’s word and her Ministers’
  actions/decisions must never be believed at first instance.
  
  Everything she says and her Ministers do need to be reinvestigated/rechecked/redone.
  
  What an amateur.
  
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  November 9, 2018 9:29pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”another 2 weeks when rumours can run rife”….
    
    Ain’t it great! 🙂
    
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    November 9, 2018 9:34pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s exhausting..
      So many dots to connect; so many lines to read between…
      I prefer looking at pictures
      https://thesaurus.plus/img/synonyms/137/pull_wool_over_eyes.png
      
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      November 9, 2018 9:44pm
      - sam green
        
        So many lies to make up …. a la oob.
        
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        November 10, 2018 11:46pm
Hugh Pavletich

… AUSTRALIA: The bursting housing bubble … continued …

CSR, Boral, James Hardie caught in housing blues | afr.com … behind paywall …

https://www.afr.com/business/construction/csr-boral-james-hardie-caught-in-housing-blues-20181108-h17oyp

The heavy sell-off in shares in Australia’s big building products companies is a pointer to where investors think the housing market is headed.

CSR shares have tumbled 43 per cent in the past six months, Boral is off 21 per cent since the start of October and James Hardie has dropped 27 per cent in the past three months. In CSR’s case, $1.2 billion in sharemarket value has vanished since May, leaving shareholders wincing. … read more via hyperlink above (behind paywall) …
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Plunging mortgage lending levels in Australia mean ‘further weakness in house prices is likely’ | Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australian-property-home-loan-growth-credit-restrictions-2018-11
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UBS: Aussie banks still un-investable – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/ubs-aussie-banks-still-univestable/
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… It’s a very rough road to below a 3.0 Median Multiple … as the Irish learned (the hard way) following the ’07 event … when the average Median Multiple across its major metros went from 4.7 to 2.8 …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm
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… and as I explained early 2010 … in quoting Michael Lewis, author of Liars Poker … within …

Housing Bubbles And Market Sense | Hugh Pavletich | Scoop New Zealand News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0901/S00046.htm

… extract …

… Michael Lewis, author of Liars Poker wrote recently within a Portfolio com article The End of Wall Streets Boom – most within the finance and investment sector, appeared to be oblivious to the existence of housing bubbles and even less aware of their consequences. As Michael Lewis explains – during late 2004 – only a few, such as Steve Eisman, Ivy Zelman and Meredith Whitney understood that the core problems were the inflating housing bubbles –

“At the end of 2004, Eisman, Moses and Daniel shared a sense that unhealthy things were going on in the housing market.

Lots of firms were lending money to people who shouldn’t have been borrowing it. They thought Alan Greenspan’s decision after the internet bust to lower interest rates to 1% was a travesty that would lead to some terrible day of reckoning.

Neither of these insights was entirely original.

Ivy Zelman, at the time the housing market analysis at Credit Suisse, had seen the bubble forming very early on. There is a simple measure of sanity in housing prices, the ratio of median house price to income.

Historically, it runs around 3 to 1, by late 2004, it had risen nationally to 4 to 1.’

All these people were saying it was nearly as high as some other countries’ Zelman says ‘ But the problem wasn’t just that it was 4 to 1.

In Los Angeles it was 10 to 1 and in Miami it was 8.5 to 1.

And then you coupled that with the buyers. They weren’t real buyers. They were speculators’.

Zelman alienated clients with her pessimism, but she couldn’t pretend everything was good. ‘It wasn’t that hard in hindsight to see it’ she says ‘It was very hard to know when it would stop’.

Zelman spoke occasionally with Eisman and always left these conversations feeling better about her views and worse about the world. ‘You needed the occasional assurance that you weren’t nuts’ she says.

She wasn’t nuts. The world was.”
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… and explaining a few ‘home truths’ recently to Kiwis as well … with a leading New Zealand journalist Catherine Harris …

Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator

… Why do people … and their (supposed to be in a representative democracy … poll parrots) politicians … have to learn the hard way ?
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November 9, 2018 11:39pm
Manolo

Another day, another lone wolf, another follower of the religion of peace:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/australia/police-blame-lone-wolf-terrorist-for-deadly-attack-on-bourke-street/ar-BBPvBnf

A lone terrorist was responsible for a deadly stabbing attack that unfolded on Bourke Street in Melbourne’s CBD on Friday afternoon.

One man was killed and two others injured after being stabbed by a man who set his ute alight outside the Target store near the busy intersection of Bourke and Swanston streets.

The attacker, who was a Somali community member known to ASIO, was shot by police after he repeatedly lunged at them with a knife.
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