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Arderns a liar.
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November 8, 2018 8:00am
- sooty
  
  Will the useless media report the glitter coming off. NO, they won’t!
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:39am
AgainstTheFlow

The oil and gas exploration ban finally passed Parliament last night.

Gran Robertson said it was about “our brand proposition in the world”

What, a nation of power brown-outs when the dams aren’t full, and poverty because the factories have left?
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November 8, 2018 8:01am
- Viking2
  
  Next year if we don’t get any rain.
  I an old enough to remember power cuts in the winter for a number of years.
  Couldn’t keep your factory working.
  Power supply ran that far down thgat voltage drop caused malfunctions or big electric motors not to run.
  
  Big good if this was to happen.
  Aucklanders of course already know what happens when your power runs out if their memory stretches back just a few years.
  
  Since then we have increased our power/energy use till there is now only a small margin between supply and demand.
  
  Get your wood in this summer.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:09am
  - Inandout
    
    That may make voters wake up, but don’t count on it.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:21am
  - Sofia
    
    And nobody has yet revealed an estimate for the percentage of home electricity consumption that converting to electric vehicles will suck out of the grid, nor the electrification of rail, or Winston’s new Taranaki hydrogen industry – electronic splitting of water, while the more efficient source of hydrogen, natural gas, lies beneath their feet.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:28am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      I believe it is 5 Clutha Dams according to the MP for Taranaki. The Greens will love the damming of 5 major rivers.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:24am
      - kowtow
        
        And some of those are silting up and have a limited lifespan.
        
        You hear very little about that from the “sustainability” , “future proofing” mob.
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:47am
      - Colinxy
        
        You underestimate the power of unicorn farts 😉
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:53am
  - KiWombat
    
    I understand there are three ships full of coal heading this way over the next month or so, which begs the question – where are they going to berth and how will they unload?
    
    Huntly Power Station was built where it is because there was coal there. Now they are unable to extract their own coal, and need to import coal from overseas.
    
    We do not have coal unloading facilities in Auckland, the closest port to the destination, so it will have to be manually unloaded into trucks.
    
    Has anybody considered how many truckloads of coal will now be winding their way through Auckland streets en route to Huntly? Even if there are only five kilos of coal dust blown away on each journey, this is still an awful lot of black crap being dropped on the southern suburbs of our largest city – tons of it !
    
    This administration would fail to be charged with raffling chooks at their local club !
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:43am
    - GazzaW
      
      132,000 tonnes of brown coal from Indonesia.
      
      Talk about taking coals to Newcastle (aka Huntly).
      
      Can anyone tell me whether we are still exporting high quality coking coal from the West Coast to India or has that industry gone by the wayside?
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:54am
      - KiWombat
        
        I still buy West Coast coal for home and water heating, supply is plentiful but I don’t think any is exported.
        
        Fortunately the West Coast seems to be pretty reliant on local coal for domestic purposes – you often see a truck or trailer full in Greymouth shopping centre during winter months as people duck into town and pick up a tonne of coal at the same time. I use about three tonnes over winter.
        
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        November 8, 2018 10:17am
      - sooty
        
        They are going to sail the coal boats up the Waikato river and unload at the front door of the power station! If only they can get permission of the local iwi.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:14am
      - RF
        
        Strongman coal is the most effective coal to burn on open fires. Known to burn out grates..
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:11pm
    - dubya
      
      The southern suburbs are just about at limit for black crap, too!
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:55am
    - VicParking
      
      The Mount has a coal discharge facility that was built and mothballed before it was used.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:59am
      - KiWombat
        
        Problem with the Mount is they have to haul up and over the Kaimai’s. Probably easier to send in the shovels to Auckland Port.
        
        I suppose they can use all of Shame Jones cuzzies who haven’t yet managed to dig holes to plant trees !
        
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        November 8, 2018 10:20am
    - freethinker
      
      Consider the silver lining that the coal dust will coat the arseholes that voted Labour in Manukau etc.
      
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      November 8, 2018 1:12pm
    - Paulus
      
      Tauranga has unused in recent time of coal loading facilities.
      The coal is then trained/trucked to the Waikato and stored for Huntly.
      There are special covered coal wagons but where they are now I do not know.
      Has not been used for I think about five years. It was purpose built.
      
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      November 8, 2018 1:38pm
      - KevinH
        
        The coal is shipped by rail in the specially designed coal bucket carriages that can be tipped sideways for unloading. Tauranga will be the port of entry for the shipments to Huntly.
        
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        November 8, 2018 5:02pm
  - peterwn
    
    There is sufficient on average for the next few years even excluding Huntly steam turbines (ie up to the next election). The Huntly machines provide a buffer for when there is less than average available production. The Government has wisely kept its nose out of the Huntly business (the Electricity Authority under the previous Government was instrumental in persuading Genesis to keep the two steam turbines operational). Once hydro inflows recover, Genesis will stop running these machines and there will be no need for coal except to replenish the stockpile.
    So there will not be actual shortages prior to the next election and people actually need to suffer the consequences of a power shortage to have a political impact.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:27am
    - KiWombat
      
      Problem is that we need several new hydro generating plants in the South Island, and none are being built.
      
      The government seems to be constantly pushing us to invest in electric cars, so the need for more power will increase exponentially if we succumb.
      
      Add to that the pie lady needs countless thousands of acres for wind farms, and Shame Jones is after the same acres for his billion trees. Who will win the ballot?
      
      Jones has more money – so will probably win, leaving the pie lady with nowhere to plant wind turbines or solar farms.
      
      I can see the day coming when motorways will be littered with electric cars with flat batteries, no new generation, and rolling blackouts unless we import copious quantities of coal to get Huntly back online.
      
      The alternative will be to chop down trees and plant wind or solar farms. We will need about 50,000 sq km’s of this by 2050 – almost half the size of the North Island !
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:30am
      - peterwn
        
        We do not need these hydro stations in the short term. The generating companies have a series of renewable and gas projects up their sleeve to keep things going in the intermediate future. This is more economic for them than a big chunk of capex all in one go which a significant hydro station needs. Anyway hydro stations are now logistically impracticable to build anyway, as they just cannot meet the RMA criteria as they have been interpreted in practice. So NZ electricity development is going to be very incremental.
        The next major ‘project’ could be pricing out the Tiwai aluminum smelter when contracts come up for renewal. This will release a significant amount of power for electric vehicles etc. The main downside would be loss of employment opportunities and economic activity in the area. Transpower would need to beef up weak spots in its network to cope but this would be no big deal.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:31am
      - marcw
        
        Sorry, peterwn, reported by mistake.
        
        However, your casual dismissal of the 3000 odd direct and indirect Southland jobs, and apparent belief that it will be just a few extra extension cords to get the power to where it is needed is just wrong. It will be a major and costly exercise, and will involve large losses in Mw over the distance.
        
        Meanwhile, overseas smelters (using coal power) will take up the slack in Aluminum production, so the nett environmental benefit is massively negative. So what is the point???
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:46am
      - freethinker
        
        Speaking of the Pie Lady Wood she have any sensitive information on the Labour sex convention perv due in court some time this century? Just asking.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:15pm
      - Ross12
        
        Peterwn
        The Tiwai contracts were renewed only a few years ago and they go out until about 2025-30, I think.
        Also how will the Greens argue against the fact that Tiwai aluminium is part of a very small amount of world aluminium produced from renewable energy?
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:15pm
    - KiWombat
      
      I should have mentioned that we’re expecting over 100mm’s of rain on the West Coast today – just in case the pie lady is struggling to think of somewhere with a surplus of water for electricity generation. It has already made a good start !
      
      If the dams were in the right places, they would all be overflowing today !
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:52am
      - Piniwi
        
        @ KiWombat funny to think that the region that has had more knock-backs than any other by having so many natural recourse locked might hold the most practical solution to the pending energy crises. Hydro electricity generation. The pure irony in this one is being elevated almost daily.
        We may well expect Genesis does not see as rosy an outlook as the Pie Telly Tubby who’s constantly wobbling head sends energy ripples right down her portly portions. Funny watching those energy ripples return to the head is a seemingly perpetual motion akin to the popular swinging steel balls. All joking aside Genesis can not afford to be so glib and they will be very concerned at their predicted position a long hot Summer of 2018/9. Or the prospect of it’s effects extended well past the return to normal daylight hours. Particularly if the el nino condition follows the same pattern it did above the equator before moving south where it seemed reluctant to leave. In fact their concern is raised to such levels to have to import coal during the start of that long hot summer. Storage levels might mirror the two prominent dents in the Ministers soft House seat. Deep and dry. Sad for NZ that she is the best the COL have to overseer the critical energy future for NZ with her main attribute her ability for mass storage. It is certainly not for her numerical skills.
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:16pm
      - Tall Man
        
        And yet they elect a labour mp.
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:32pm
    - Fletch
      
      A friend of mine was talking to a guy from Genesis who was changing over a couple of gas bottles at his work, and the guy told him that they had enough gas for at least 12 years, anyway. Still, that’s not really that long…
      
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      November 8, 2018 12:36pm
      - VicParking
        
        12 years thats three elections. I’m sure Labour will run out of Gas/Hot air by then
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:46pm
      - peterwn
        
        A broader perspective on this is if gas supplies run short prices will go up and this would have an impact on major users. Gas prices for small retail customers would increase but not as much since the basic cost of the gas is a small portion of the retail price. Hence it is reasonably safe to assume that there would be reticulated gas and LPG bottles for the small customer almost indefinitely. This is even if LNG is imported to feed reticulation and to fill LPG bottles (this is the current situation in Japan).
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:12pm
- srylands
  
  I was reading yesterday about the scale of natural gas production and exploration in Australia. I knew it was big. But not that big. Eight export terminals and nine planned. Hundreds of billions in investment.
  
  Come 2030, those LNG carriers will be loading up and heading for New Zealand.
  
  http://abarrelfull.wikidot.com/lng-terminals-in-australia
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:11am
  - Chris R
    
    My wife works for a company in Perth which supplies engineering equipment and know-how to the oil/gas industry. NZ is the huge joke around the water-coolers in her building, while those who worked in Taranaki are now fly-in/fly-out workers with the expectation that eventually they’ll shift to Perth. The CoL are economic saboteurs and idiots. Why not a private prosecution against Ardern for treason? I detest the CoL!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:31am
  - GazzaW
    
    Spot on srylands. The Aussie LNG industry will gut Taranaki of its skilled oil workers just as efficiently as the RAAF gutted the RNZAF of its Skyhawk pilots and technicians after Clark unilaterally closed down 75 Squadron.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:00am
    - wreck1080
      
      To be fair, it is Ardern who gutted the industry, not the australians.
      
      I bet her uncle Shane is embarrassed.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:30am
  - stigie
    
    And not to mention, a huge cost as well !~
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:05am
  - Tall Man
    
    My son has done 5 tours in OZ this year on gas rigs and there is no let up.
    
    He is a geologist so is well versed in our future needs.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:55am
  - KevinH
    
    There is a massive facility being built at Pilbarra N.W. West Australia by Chevron that is described as being one of the largest facilities in the world with an estimated construction cost of $69 b AUD.
    The plant when completed will have the ability to ship 15.6 million tons of LNG p.a.
    
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    November 8, 2018 5:13pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, and this morning the Mayor of Bew Plymouth is left stating the blindingly obvious. That is:
  “NZ will have to continue importing oil & coal to burn for electricity generation, because we don’t have sufficient generation from renewable resources when lake levels are low and the wind doesn’t blow”.
  
  Where is your plan two pies Woods and how are you going to power Jimmy’s electric cars & Twitford’s electric trains/trams?
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:14am
  - softail 1450
    
    Hull kiwi ,is “three pies”on a diet?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:19am
    - hullkiwi
      
      I didn’t say what size the pies were!
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:26am
    - Lance
      
      David Lange was known as ‘2 pie’ at the Uni of Auckland
      He would regularly take 2 pies out of the warmer and eat one while in line to pay.
      
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      November 8, 2018 12:46pm
  - cmm
    
    She has said hydrogen is going to do everything, and we’re going to export hydrogen too! And Taranaki is going to be the centre of hydrogen production!
    
    Stupid woman (and I’m being generous), does not understand basic physics and chemistry.
    
    Hydrogen is incredibly inefficient to make. There are two main ways to make it.
    
    1) React natural gas and steam. That needs a lot of energy and a lot of processing to remove the CO2 etc. Creating the steam needs either coal, gas or electricity. And of course it needs gas!
    
    Replacing a gas industry with one that consumes gas is, well, I just doing have the words for it.
    
    2) Electrolysis with electricity. That is also pretty inefficient and it is better to rather use the electricity in other ways. And since our hydro is maxxed out, we will need to burn coal to make some of that wonderful clean hydrogen.
    
    So we will need to import ship loads of coal to then export a lesser amount of hydrogen. Yup that makes sense!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:38am
    - sooty
      
      She will expect to export the hydrogen on the same ship the coal came in! It’s greener, don’t you know!
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:45am
    - KevOB
      
      So we are to use electricity to breakdown H2O to make electricity from the H2 by combustion–gigantic relative energy losses involved.
      
      What did Dr Megan Woods major in? Ideologue self delusionment?
      
      This is not executive government but ignorance by fiat. Treasonous in the scale of the lacking any sense of a duty to care.
      
      “Reforms” on this scale require a mandate.
      
      I am almost hoping now that Sroubek will sink the COL.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:33am
      - freethinker
        
        What did Dr Megan Woods major in?`I understand 3 pies has a PhD in thickology.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:20pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Megan Woods is a social historian.
        
        Her PhD thesis:
        Integrating the nation: Gendering Maori urbanisation and integration 1942-1969.
        https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/handle/10092/4352
        It’s a well-written, interesting thesis… dealing with the shift of rural Maori into urban environments; Maori trade-training schemes; Maori Women and their domestic life; Maori fashion/media stars.
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:11pm
    - peterwn
      
      But there are no end of people who will say that cars can run on water (via hydrogen) and it is only the oil companies blocking development. They claim the only technological hindrance is issues in the hydrolysis unit where gas bubbles hinder the flow of electricity slowing down production. I think some MP’s are too ignorant to really understand the issues – the ones who hated doing Physics at high school.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:44am
      - cmm
        
        This is why I believe there is a good way for a political party to make a strong brand by making sure all their MP candidates and anyone on the list is competent.
        
        Imagine a party guaranteeing that every one of their potential MPs has a reasonable grasp (say minimum NCEA level 3) of:
        * statistics (understand mean vs median, standard deviation, statistical significance).
        * some basic physics and chemistry.
        * economics (GDP vs GNP, deficit vs debt, interest rates, compound interest).
        * logic and critical thinking.
        * law.
        
        Anyone sitting as an MP should at least have the competence you would expect of a Managing Director/CEO of a 100+ employee company.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:00am
      - KevOB
        
        Cars can run on water as a source of hydrogen but that takes energy to break the molecular bonds. That energy has to be input first from an external source. You can’t just pinch it from a generator attached to the engine you are trying to get to work.
        
        A hydrolysis unit can only convert water proportional to its power input. It’s like trying to whack a racehorse on it rear to get it to run faster–it has to be pushed from behind for that to happen. Given enough energy input and a change in geometry a car could fly.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:26pm
    - srylands
      
      This is what happens when you can go through school without being required to study basic science. I’d wager that half of New Zealand adults could not give a basic account of how electricity is produced.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:08am
      - Piniwi
        
        But srylands most of the LCD are sure it comes from a switch. Doesn’t it?
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:36pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I can understand why the pie lady is such an enthusiast for hydrogen.
      She looks like the Hindenburg.
      
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      November 8, 2018 12:02pm
      - KevOB
        
        Did you mean “look out for the hidden burger”?
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:28pm
  - VicParking
    
    My biggest worry is how will the partner charge up her vibrator. I’m dreading having to step up to the plate.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:03am
    - sooty
      
      You will have to get one of those windup clockwork ones!
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:25am
      - VicParking
        
        I have a better use for my right hand.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:50pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Also hullkiwi the increased demands from greater numbers of rentals both state and private that will have to meet the new “standards” for warm dry homes. All pushing up demands for more electricity which is growing more expensive with every new months bill. The worst is yet to come since as like so many local bodies the electricity producers and transmission companies have postponed infrastructure maintenance and replacement. Both seeming to be completely ignoring expansion while waiting for a spendthrift socialist Government to act as sugar daddy again.
    
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    November 8, 2018 2:27pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Gran Robertson said it was about “our brand proposition in the world”.
  
  Oh dear. He really does take those university marketing department courses seriously where they talk about “brand,” “image,” “perception” and “feelings.”
  (If you are pitching to housewives, then all well and good, but a nation is not a brand.)
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:34am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Does anyone talk of their ‘Mission Statement’ any more? ?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:37am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Yes, the public service!
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:47am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      waikatogirl,
      
      Ah, the beloved “Mission Statement.” I forgot all about that buzziest of buzzwords.
      
      They say that good times makes weak men. The times have been very good in this country for over a generation. There are a lot of weak individuals around…
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:49am
      - dubya
        
        Had to laugh at a ‘Mission Statement’ on a work email from Housing NZ I got recently.
        
        “we aim to be the social housing provider of choice”
        
        Hahahaha
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:58am
      - AgainstTheFlow
        
        Very wise thought.
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:00am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        When a company touts its “Mission Statement” you know that they have a serious MBA-graduate infestation in their management.
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:01am
      - hullkiwi
        
        O-sen, even worse the management have all “graduated” from completing a 24 hour MBA course.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:19pm
- Harkman
  
  It’s utter stupidity, and self flagellation. It’s not an oil or gas exploration ban, it’s a gas ban and what’s worse the 2005/2006 Clark Government studies shows that these gas fields have cracks and they are slowly expelling the gas anyhow (over the last 60m years the Taranaki and Great South Basins have both leaked some 10 North Sea or Saudi Arabia’s worth of oil/gas). All the petroleum execs have said NZ Basins have gas not oil. So what are we doing now? Importing gas, so much for Winston Peters the nationalist, wanting to run large trade surpluses. Complete phoney.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:53am
- lastmanstanding
  
  The projection is that energy demand will double in the next 30 years. This will be on the back of increased population, production and significantly the change to electric powered vehicles.
  
  So how do we double supply.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:24am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Simple.
    Turn off the immigration tap (unless the people want it left on).
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:57am
  - Colinxy
    
    You assume that the Left actually want to take the hoi polloi with them on their journey to “carbon neutrality” versus the Left setting up a new aristocracy and letting the hoi polloi wither.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:59am
- Longknives
  
  Grant Robertson said it was about “our brand proposition in the world”
  
  How is a collapsed Economy, Petrol at $3 a litre and and old people freezing to death because they can’t pay the heating bill a ‘brand’??
  Because that is New Zealand’s future under this lunatic, Virtue Signalling ‘Government’…
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:29am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Grant Robertson said it was about “our brand proposition in the world”
    
    “Our Brand” is just more crap filler like “Mission Statement”.
    I switch off when Grant and Cindy start to speak. Talk about white noise. Oops, should that be diverse noise?
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:28am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Energy demand is expected to double over the next 30 years on the back of increased population production and the move to electric powered vehicles.
  
  So how do we double supply.
  
  Cant increase hydro as it damages the river lakes etc.
  Cant use coal.
  Cant use local gas. Supply runs out.
  Imported gas very expensive and subject to currency changes.
  Cant use Nuke.
  Wind only works when it blows enough but not too much.
  Solar only works when the suns out.
  
  Seems to me there will be lots of blackouts and brownouts coming.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:29am
  - peterwn
    
    “cant use nuke’ – thus ruling out potentially the most effective way of averting climate change. The French have made it work OK, so it is worth proper consideration, not just anti nuke slogans.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:48am
    - Jazzby
      
      As has already been said, most of the general public are scientifically ignorant: say the word “nuclear” and they immediately have images of some unseen menace that will kill us all, by means of bombs, fallout, or God-knows-what.
      It’s a great gut-twister for the Greens and their stupid fellow-travellers, who are unthinkingly prejudiced against anything technological that they neither understand nor wish to.
      The future for nuclear energy in New Zealand is, sadly, very bleak indeed.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:20am
    - Komata
      
      Pw
      
      Unlikely to ever eventuate as the best, most ideal site is near Auckland and the damage should a failure occur and fallout escape, would be excessive. The old NZED did a study of this in the mid ’60’s and eventually decided that hydro was a better, safer option.
      
      Nothing has changed in the interval and with the gweens now so vocal about ‘The Environment’, nuclear, although potentially ideal for the purpose, will never get off the ground.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:56am
      - peterwn
        
        That would have been the conclusion of studies as long as potential hydro sites were available, but NZED was running out of potential sites in the North Island. The issue boiled down to coal/oil/gas stations versus nuclear. Nuclear sat at the end of the 15 year planning horizon during the 1960’s and 1970’s, and while the old NZED acquired some nuclear knowhow by sending engineers overseas to study nuclear power I doubt the management would have been too keen to go nuclear while other reasonable options in the North Islans were available. These engineers would all be deceased or retired by now.
        The finding of Maui natural gas and further Waikato coal reserves enabled New Plymouth and Huntly to be added to the Power Plan enabling nuclear to be pushed back further.
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:29pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        In 1960 there were four hydro stations planned for the Motu River. What happened to those? And there are plenty of other rivers in deep valleys in the North Island.
        Let’s get on with it before we’re all in the dark.
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:40pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      31 countries (at least) use nuclear power.
      There are 448 reactors operating currently…
      another 59 are under construction.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_by_country
      I’ve been through the Maanshan Power Plant , Southern Taiwan.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maanshan_Nuclear_Power_Plant
      I couldn’t believe how small it was.
      
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      November 8, 2018 2:25pm
  - jcuk
    
    Solar works in cloudy weather, perhaps not as well as in sunshine but it continues to work until night arrives.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:01am
    - Colinxy
      
      Au contraire! The Spanish have managed to get solar to work even at night!
      
      https://theecologist.org/2010/apr/16/spanish-nighttime-solar-energy-fraud-unlikely-uk
      
      😉
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:21am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Spanish? Isn’t that where Manuel came from?
        Good luck with that. He wasn’t much good at working even in the daytime.
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:44pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Brand Proposition / Greenwas . We’re still using oil and gas. But we don’t want to drill for it. We’re like meat eaters who don’t want to know where the meat comes from.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:41am
- oldpark
  
  What a fughing indictment of Foxy Peters to allow such vandalism of NZs economy. Some fughing Legacy, NZs have had their noses rubbed in shit by a Coalition of Corruption and Chaos,destroying our oil and gas exploration and the well being and employment of Thousands of NZs.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:21am
- 4077th
  
  Everyone must own an EV..Probably government subsidised.. Electricity generation shortages..FFS!
  
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  November 8, 2018 11:40am
Inandout

Adern is ‘concerned’.
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November 8, 2018 8:01am
- starboard
  
  ..that she has been fount out.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:10am
- Tall Man
  
  Ardern is a liar.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:58am
  - sooty
    
    So is Whinney!
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:33am
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda lets Winnie throw the officials under the bus.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018670292/peters-defends-immigration-minister-s-drug-smuggler-decision

So Jacinda doesn’t lie when she says she is not pointing the finger as to who is to blame for the Czech fiasco.
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November 8, 2018 8:02am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  If they are blaming officials, then they should release the information that the minster received. Simple fix.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:03am
  - cmm
    
    If you look at the letter ILG wrote, or had written on his behalf, and signed then it is obvious that they had enough info to know that Sroubek was of poor character.
    
    He would have needed a heap of counter-evidence to tip the balance in Sroubek’s favour. Lack of evidence would have resulted in deportation, not giving him residence.
    
    There is no mention of extenuating circumstances etc in the letter, so likely there really was none.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:10am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Which leads us back to the question of motive. Why would I L-G go out of his way to sign off on such a persistent and dangerous criminal becoming a NZ citizen.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:44am
      - freethinker
        
        Read between the lines – white powdery lines!
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:31pm
      - Paulus
        
        ILG did as he was told !
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:47pm
    - NZDirect
      
      yes there is – he had a black book and after reading between the lines, maybe someone very close to the PM/Govt is listed in it
      
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      November 8, 2018 7:06pm
  - peterwn
    
    That is one of the burdens officials (public servants) have to bear. They cannot talk back if a Minister tries to fasten the blame on them. The PSA could call the Government out over this, but is unlikely to want to show up a left wing government. The State Services Commissioner could express his concern privately to his Minister but that would have little practical effect.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:52am
    - Tall Man
      
      Many years ago my boss at the time visited the minister and explained what a right hook to the chin would feel like.
      
      The minister never went behind his back again.
      
      Have received urgent calls at 6 in the morning to attempt to confirm as correct the bullshit emanating from a minister’s mouth. That got sorted pronto as well.
      
      Sadly, those days are long gone.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:03am
      - peterwn
        
        A former Assistant General Manager of the NZED dealt with a similar problem by simply complying with Ministerial whims knowing there would be an unhappy ending which came when Marsden power station oil fuel bills went sky high (during an oil shortage). Norm Kirk (might have been Bill Rowling) responded by moving the hapless Minister sideways.
        
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        November 8, 2018 3:57pm
- All_on_Red
  
  By any measure ILG should be sacked but there’s a bit of a trend emerging of Ardern having to get rid of Ministers.
  There’ll be more stuff ups too. They are truly useless.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:05am
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    Who would be the replacement? Name one non-Minister you’d have confidence in?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:23am
    - tf78
      
      National!
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:30am
    - GazzaW
      
      The replacement would have to be the Minister for Everything, Kris Faafoi.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:18am
    - Colville
      
      yeah pretty much anyone off Nats backbench could do a better job..
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:54am
    - lifesgood
      
      Or name one Minister you have confidence in.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:09am
- cmm
  
  PriNZess is playing games. Winnie has let her go to the dress up box, put on a crown and mummies old high heel shoes and pretend she’s in charge.
  
  She likes to make feelzy noises, but won’t take any responsibility. For that she lets the grown ups take charge. She wants the selfies without the responsibility that goes with it.
  
  If she can’t handle the responsibility in a teenie tiny well behaved country like NZ then how is she going to handle the bigger responsibility in the job she really wants: Grand Poobar of the UN?
  
  PriNZess: If there’s chook for dinner then someone has to cut its head off. Stop being so damn squeamish.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:22am
  - sooty
    
    The trouble is all the clothes in the dress up box is outa style, outa date and those ankle boots.
    Just no style to be on the world stage!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:54am
    - cmm
      
      That’s how clothing gets into the dress up box.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:14am
    - Longknives
      
      Honestly- If my wife dressed like a bloody crazy catwoman and sat slouching like an old frump next to Meghan Markle I would be moritfied!
      
      Clarke Gayford must be so proud!
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:42am
      - Tall Man
        
        He’s got options don’t ya know….
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQduC6N5OY
        
        Hundreds of options it seems.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:08am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, I’ve just heard Winnie on Red Radio. In Winnie’s words ILG is not accountable, it is the officials who screwed up. But Winnie was quick to point out that there is an inquiry happening, & we must let that report back before jumping to conclusions.
  
  When asked how did the most basic of mistakes occur, he replied with the gem that public servants are under immense pressure working 70 to 80 hours a week. I work in the public sector, & the two things I’ve never seen is anyone working “under immense pressure” or “working 70 to 80 hours a week”.
  
  Winnie & his CoL friends have been lying to us over the whole matter for the past 2 weeks, they are now playing for time in order to sweep the matter under the carpet. However, at the rate they are going, there will be no room left under the carpet.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:25am
  - sooty
    
    Whinney is a liar too!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:55am
  - septic skeptic
    
    I think you are misinterpreting what he said. There is 70 or 80 hours of work per week done by the whole ministry.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:16am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    So whose doing the Inquiry. Are they Independent. Are they Conflicted. Will they come back and say nothing to see here move on.
    
    We need to know the answers to these questions.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:36am
    - sooty
      
      They are running out of party hacks with 153 talkfest going on at the moment!
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:38am
    - Piniwi
      
      As always lastmanstanding you will need to lodge those each as a separate specific question to the concerned Minister or higher office holder so they can concoct a uniform line of response. In the absence of an answer.
      
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      November 8, 2018 3:03pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    I take issue with the word mistake. I L-G didn’t overlook a single piece of detail against an otherwise unblemished record. The information on this case was overwhelming and all of it was bad. There was no mistake. Why did I L-G intentionally sign off this decision.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:47am
  - KevOB
    
    Is the lying and deceit just feral COL or are we dealing with both ferals and some compromised people?
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:47am
  - Piniwi
    
    Interesting hullkiwi also as we see old WF taking the lead in batting off the flack intended for the silly little girl while we know he is more inclined to be batty than a batter. Meanwhile the Media party are running interference with puff pieces and crowing about the great things the COL are doing. They will not be keen on big plate of crow when things pear shaped.
    
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    November 8, 2018 3:00pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Yes, PriNZess has slipped off to Ratana for a couple of days to celebrate 100 years since TJ had his vision & offered up Maori to Labour. The blood boiling bit is PriNZess offering up gifts at the taxpayers expense.
      
      Back to the subject, yes I noted it was Pest for all Reasons answering reporter questions on this matter, but what was amazing was he had no problems lying in his answers or lining up public servants to fall under the bus when “his enquiry doesn’t give the answers he wants. Equally amazing is, how “a review into what information was provided to the Minister” has morphed into an enquiry.
      
      They are playing for time & are trying to kick the matter out to January like the Haumaha inquiry. It’s easy to buy embarrassing matters in the middle of the holiday season.
      
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      November 8, 2018 5:23pm
- Nookin
  
  Mr Peters says immigration officials’ failure to know if Mr Sroubek had returned home or not was the most basic of checks and there’s no excuse.
  
  If the possibility of him returning home was one of the most basic checks, why is it that the guy who is being paid the big bucks to make the ultimate decision failed to seek clarification?
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:55am
  - NZDirect
    
    because he had a black book and after reading between the lines, maybe someone very close to the PM/Govt is listed in it
    
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    November 8, 2018 7:06pm
- MH
  
  czech mate
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:39pm
Keeping Stock

It looks as though Messrs Lusk and Slater have changed camps.

http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1466/Dirty-politics-Russell-McVeagh-and-Winston-Peters-The-bizarre-story-of-two-high-priced-dinners-Winston-peters-Russell-McVeagh-Simon-Lusk-dirty-politics-Cameron-Slater.htm

But when did the change take place? Before, or after the 2017 General Election. It also begs the question as to whether JLR had been courting NZF as well.
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November 8, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  How long has JLR been wearing a wire and feeding the enemy?
  
  That he is now siding with Winnie will lose him any remaining shreds of respect.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:12am
  - brett68
    
    They’ve been feeding Peters ifo for quite a while I’d say.
    
    Fuck the bad look, National should just waka jump the prick, get rid of him, you can’t let traitorous scum like JLR hang about causing shit and working in conjunction with the government.
    
    I even doubt his mental illness, whole thing looks like a smoke screen to me where he gets to control the narrative and attack National when ever he feels like.
    
    Also how the fuck can National ever work with Peters?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:18am
    - waikatogirl
      
      So Winnie has a signed contract (and a secret addendum) to work as a COL partner with Labour and the Greens. Now we are expected to believe NZ First are going to use JLR’s proxy vote to support National’s vote? What guarantee or rules are there that NZF won’t use the vote for the benefit of the COL?
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:35am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        It would not make sense for him to do so.
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:00am
    - RF
      
      Was JLR the source of the leak concerning the supposed pension overpayment to the “all mouth and trousers.”
      
      I know it was a while ago but this guy is not paying with a full deck of cards…. Maybe he has held a grudge against his party from way back then.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:36am
    - peterwn
      
      JLR has fired his 21 guns and is now out of ammo. As far as Simon Bridges is concerned he is now merely minor nuisance value. JLR is effectively out of the way and Simon does not need to take the humiliating step of using the Waka Hopper law to get rid of JLR. Cam Slater has failed in his current mission of ousting Simon Bridges – Simon is pretty well on top of the situation now. Cam’s support for Judith Collins has effectively destabilised her – if Nat MP’s had concerns about her leadership potential, they would have more concerns now.
      Cam’s political influence has greatly diminished, perhaps as someone suggested, the Bloomfield business may be the end.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:06am
    - Piniwi
      
      But brett68 as we hear his argument of why NZF will be the vehicle for JLR to place his proxy vote is in fact what he thinks will prevent National from using his new law. He thinks he is helping retain the proportionality from the election result thinking it blocks Nationals opting to apply it.
      This rushed legislation might yet work against him as we expect apart from being unconstitutional as well as an insult to our democratic system is will surely have plenty of flaws. Or yet more unintended consequences which is the legacy being created by the COL..
      
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      November 8, 2018 3:13pm
- brett68
  
  Slater has been shilling for NZ First for quite a while, how any National voting person could financially support his blog or buy meat from him has got me beat.
  
  The guy is scum.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:13am
  - KevOB
    
    Is it meat or remanufactured pond scum?
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:52am
- Philview
  
  Peters was taunting Simon Bridges weeks before JLR went public. He knew what was coming.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:14am
  - RF
    
    It goes back to when Bridges tossed Peters out of the Tauranga seat.
    
    Big big humiliation. Never to be forgotten or forgiven.
    
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    November 8, 2018 1:59pm
- BlueGriffon
  
  Whaleoil went Little Green Footballs on us a while back.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Footballs
  
  Been a daily reader since 2004 but I’m curing myself from visiting it now as I cannot stand WP, JLR is a perfect match for NZF and WFP.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:35am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I am bailing as well.
    Lusk Slater Ross and Peters, a match made in heaven. But not for me.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:38am
    - cas
      
      I’ve bailed as well – the hatred towards Bill English was bad enough but he hates Simon even more – and have bailed from TV 3 whose political editor is drip feeding all the leaks. Watch out the next leak of JLR’s tapes will be on Monday deliberately to upset all the interviews with Simon B
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:09am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Newshub’s political editor is only drip-feeding what she is being drip-fed.
        
        Her hatred towards Bridges borders on the visceral at times, and she has lost any semblance of objectivity when reporting on National. A decent news editor would take her off stories involving National/Bridges because she doesn’t even try to report in a balanced manner.
        
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        November 8, 2018 1:27pm
    - lifesgood
      
      I bailed ages ago, well before the election. WO is insane, anyone who allows vitriol and hatred to rule their life is. Bill English and Simon Bridges are two thoroughly decent, upright people regardless of their politics. He couldn’t find anything on English and can’t on Bridges. I guess they’ll have to send that nasty piece of work, Williams, to Australia to try and dig some dirt the way he did, unsuccessfully, on John Key.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:18am
    - Colinxy
      
      I’ve bailed as well. While I’ve never been enamoured with Bill English or Simon Bridges, I also don’t believe in “Cutting off the nose to spite the face”.
      
      An action that WO has taken to with glee.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:29am
- Debbie
  
  What’s funniest is Rawshark (assuming he was who I believe he was, who I could never identify as it was years ago and I forgot) was a big NZF and WP fan.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:54am
- Harkman
  
  Has the Waka jumping bill passed yet? Unfortunately National should just use it and get rid of this guy.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:57am
  - peterwn
    
    It has. Simon Bridges could have used it, but it would have been humiliating for him. JLR is now effectively out of the picture and Simon has survived all this pretty well intact.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:11am
    - Tall Man
      
      Also, using it gains him nothing so why bother. JLR will sit in the corner of every room he enters, even his new best buds at NZ First will keep him at a distance because no one will ever trust him again.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:28am
- Harkman
  
  What Whale Slater has become is the NZ equivalent of those loser “Never Trump” Republicans polluting CNN and MSNBC because they lost they cozy consultancy jobs, where they advised past Republican Administrations to invade another country every 18 months.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:01am
- MrTips
  
  LOL. Old news. And if you look at Lusk’s list of candidates, they’re not very star quality are they!
  Lusk and Slater precisely represent the side of politics that needs to be opened up and cleaned out. they are unelectable, unpalatable and pretty much useless at anything else. Mind you, Matt McCarten, Liar Harre and Josie Pagani are also on that spectrum. All of em’ – out damn spot!
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:30am
- lastmanstanding
  
  This guy Lusk sounds like he thinks he is part of the Mafia. A right little bad piece of works.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:41am
  - KevOB
    
    These sort usually gravitate to Labour where they are backbone of the disruptive union movement. National don’t like uncontrollable independent spirits–you can’t govern with them.
    The differences are obvious between the two sides of the House: COL MP’s moonlighting as street activists. No wonder Taranaki was taken out as they care more for their self endulgences and trough mix.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:05am
Simon

MPs generally are very lowly regarded by the general population hence the general public dont make many donations to political parties. The Greens for eg are reduced to getting donations from their own MP salaries.

Thats why political parties have to raise money from the CCP. NZ can see the political class has been bought by the CCP which makes it worse.
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November 8, 2018 8:07am
- Philview
  
  The US Government was saying a few months ago that a Labour Party fundraiser is associated to the Chinese United Front. The NZ media went into overdrive to tell the US Government to F off. A few months later and now the NZ media are on the attack against the National Party for similar matters but still not a word written about the Labour Party.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:19am
- kowtow
  
  Talking of the CCP , how do certain citizens of the socialist motherland get exit visas , and then do very well in our political systems when other ones , critical of the regime don’t get to leave.
  
  ‘The director of an independent Chinese think tank has been barred from leaving the country to attend a seminar at Harvard University on the grounds that he would “endanger national security”, as Beijing continues to silence liberals critical of its policies.’
  
  https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2171808/unirule-economist-barred-leaving-china-harvard-event-national
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:14am
  - MH
    
    FREEVIEW chinese channel 33 gone off air as from 5 Nov? NOT A word in media as to why?
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:40am
secondcumming

*Jamie-Lee Ross* shares letter sent to NZF offering proxy vote on Twitter

Comments in support or otherwise run roughly 50/50…….

https://twitter.com/jamieleeross/status/1060003265297805312
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- cmm
  
  Twitter matters how much?
  
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Increased cash hand-outs reduce incentive to work – seems obvious to you and I, but a fact that the Left has long resisted. Their response is always to indignantly insist, “…people want to work”. But the Ministry of Social Development doesn’t necessarily agree. At least the actuarial arm which produces an annual Benefit System Performance Report…
Karl du Fresne: The Canberra elite’s visceral loathing for Pauline Hanson
I first wrote about Pauline Hanson in 1997. She was then a newly elected Australian MP whom the liberal media – indeed most of the Australian political establishment – openly despised. She’d been selected as a Liberal Party candidate but was dis-endorsed because the party was embarrassed by her opposition to special government assistance for Aborigines…
Barry Soper: Karel Sroubek residency case a shambles
Karel Sroubek came here with a false passport and lied to immigration officials which he faced trial for and was convicted by a jury but miraculously was discharged without conviction. He’d successfully convinced the Judge he’d be in danger if he returned to the Czech Republic which is now hard to stack up considering he’s been back there without incident…”
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November 8, 2018 8:09am
DJ Ward

A common tell that a man is telling the truth is he says “I never knew it could happen to me”

Closed court.
Arbitrary arrest, and punishment.
No right to present evidence.
Guilty until proven innocent.

Knock yourself out ladies.
Instructions on ruining a fathers life.
PS turn the sound up, it’s funny.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2395442353805287&id=100000186363841&_ft_=mf_story_key.1613279852150920%3Atop_level_post_id.1613279852150920%3Atl_objid.1613279852150920%3Acontent_owner_id_new.406959979449586%3Aoriginal_content_id.2395442353805287%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1613279852150920%3Apage_id.406959979449586%3Aphoto_id.2395442353805287%3Astory_location.4%3Aattached_story_attachment_style.video_inline%3Apage_insights.%7B%22406959979449586%22%3A%7B%22role%22%3A1%2C%22page_id%22%3A406959979449586%2C%22post_context%22%3A%7B%22story_fbid%22%3A1613279852150920%2C%22publish_time%22%3A1541185524%2C%22story_name%22%3A%22EntStatusCreationStory%22%2C%22object_fbtype%22%3A266%7D%2C%22actor_id%22%3A406959979449586%2C%22psn%22%3A%22EntStatusCreationStory%22%2C%22sl%22%3A4%2C%22dm%22%3A%7B%22isShare%22%3A1%2C%22originalPostOwnerID%22%3A2395442353805287%7D%2C%22targets%22%3A%5B%7B%22page_id%22%3A406959979449586%2C%22actor_id%22%3A406959979449586%2C%22role%22%3A1%2C%22post_id%22%3A1613279852150920%2C%22share_id%22%3A0%7D%5D%7D%7D&__tn__=CH-R
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November 8, 2018 8:09am
- srylands
  
  Good grief. Have you heard of TinyURL?
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:13am
  - DJ Ward
    
    No, help!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:16am
    - srylands
      
      https://tinyurl.com
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:09am
- DJ Ward
  
  So the down voters think it’s Ok to cause yourself injuries so a man gets arrested for assualt, has a without notice protection order filed agianst them, non contact order, and parenting order filed against them simultaneously?
  
  They will be under threat of imrisonment after the imprisonment for assualt, if they don’t do a violence course. Be subject to a compulsory psychological assessment that they must pay for. If they behave might be allowed to see kids at supervised visits they must pay for. Can be now arrested for ringing the kids on their birthdays etc etc. The woman now entitled to plus 50% asset ruling too.
  
  Plus if he, after spending a fortune on Lawyers does manage to prove his innocence the protection order will be upheld due to him trying to hard.
  
  She will never be help to account for the false statements, and perjury.
  
  Sad you downvoters think this is acceptable.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:32am
  - Tall Man
    
    No one thinks violence against anyone physical or mental is acceptable but you have made your point many many times before.
    
    The more strident you become the less we are interested in hearing it.
    
    No offense but you obviously have some skin in the game here so I suggest you retain it privately.
    
    I have learned there are always two side or more to a situation and there are also more than one perspective. You appear to have lost a little of your perspective here.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:35am
    - DJ Ward
      
      I have no skin in the game. I pay no child support. Have no orders agianst me. Am not a Lawyer. Not a social worker.
      
      But I have experienced first hand corruption and bigotry. The victim of a female sex crime and violence.
      
      I have seen evil things done to a brother worse than my experience.
      I have seen woman do evil things to men while everybody turns a blind eye.
      
      Today evil things will be done to my fellow citizens. The government will knowingly commit crimes.
      
      You don’t care because corruption for your benifit is acceptable to you. You have made that clear in some of your comments.
      
      When good men do nothing!
      
      You are not a good man, if your a man.
      
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      November 8, 2018 1:19pm
      - Tall Man
        
        DJ knowing someone intimately is “skin in the game” in my book.
        
        Not sure what you mean by “corruption for your benefit” means, do you?
        
        WTF…it says Tall Man…not Tall WoMan. Maybe a few of the labour trolls and interns have to hide their gender but I have no need.
        
        I also have skin in the game having had to assist both the giver and the getter of domestic violence and family court issues on more than one occasion.. A close mate was a family court judge so I may or may not have more knowledge that you but as I said, there are always at least 2 sides and more than one perspective so jump off your high horse and take the sermon elsewhere. You’re not helping the cause in the slightest in my opinion.
        
        TaTa
        
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        November 8, 2018 2:18pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        So your friends with a person that as an individual I can’t judge but on average has been involved in actions that have caused many male suicides.
        
        Nice friends.
        
        I’m struggling with the two sides of the story cop out. How exactly was the male who discovers his children are not actually his got any story? That’s like saying a woman that got raped when walking in a park was responsible.
        
        My guess is you have more skin in the game than your letting on.
        
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        November 8, 2018 4:59pm
Happychappy

The Prime Minister must take the majority of the public to be dummies if she thinks they will buy the story of her not knowing the the decision that Lee’s Galloway had made on giving residency to the Criminal that has dominated the Media in the last couple of weeks. This is another of the show ponies lies and for her to think the public are that stupid is beyond belief. It is about time for Journalists like Barry Soper and other senior would be scribes to start demanding the truth instead of trying to make use of stories fed to them by blubber and lusk.
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November 8, 2018 8:13am
- ldypen
  
  Sorry.. but a good percentage of the public are “that stupid”.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:20am
- Pascal
  
  Take the majority of the public to be dummies? Somebody had to vote Labour.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  Where does the instruction to “read between the lines” become compatible with “open and accountable government.”
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:03am
  - Tall Man
    
    Pretty sure it’s a euphemism for “go fuck yourselves” but I may be wrong.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:37am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Looking for the leak then too no doubt.
  
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  November 8, 2018 11:43am
holysheet

A little girl says to her mother, ‘Mummy, I want to be a feminist when I grow up.’
Her mum says, ‘Well pick one sweetie – you can’t do both.’
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November 8, 2018 8:13am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I was at a pub quiz the other day. A balmy spring evening, all the regulars take their places and the mood is good. Suddenly, an unfamiliar character rolls up.

Sitting by himself, there was a mysterious gravity to him. But God he did well. Aviation and trades were his bonus rounds, and he nailed them. It was only the European geography round that tripped him up and sent him crashing down.

After a very commendable second place finish, I had to go and find out who he was. “Gerry”, he said, “Gerry Brownlee. Big fact hunt.”
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November 8, 2018 8:14am
- Simon
  
  Big fact hunt
  
  Very edgy for a Labo fluffer.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:20am
- softail 1450
  
  Marxist has lost the plot,again.??????
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:26am
- harvey wilson
  
  Fat shamer
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:46am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Actually, it was Megan Woods, in disguise…
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:50am
- kowtow
  
  ILG , the PM and DPM were also tripped up by the European geography section.
  
  They all sought to claim the Czech Republic is some human rights hell hole in the Middle East whose drug dealing crims were deserving of our naive generosity.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:08am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Was Jacinda there Marquess? Could she answer any questions at all as this seems to be a recurring theme every time she opens her capacious gob. Plus she’s really thick.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:12am
- Tall Man
  
  And you’re out………
  
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  November 8, 2018 11:38am
Simon

MPs are fucking mongs. You see photos of them standing next to a normal person smiling away like their shit doesnt stink.

This a good example.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108157197/first-kiwibuild-families-welcomed-to-new-homes-by-prime-minister

We have the mong PM smiling away thinking she has amazing charisma with a couple of normal people. The normal people are smiling as well but because they just scored an easy couple of hundred thousand. Wouldnt matter who was standing next them after that.

Princess thinks she has charisma but someone just scored a big pay day. Thats why MPs are clowns.
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November 8, 2018 8:17am
- Dave Mann
  
  Hahaha yes and that cacophonic ‘singer’ Dobbyn was there with his agonised howling. I could almost see the fresh gibstop falling out of the walls. What a mess. A failed housing programme being spruiked by a gargoyle to the noise of a tone deaf ‘musician’!
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:33am
  - starboard
    
    Fuck Dave Dobbyn. Last time I saw that little prick was at the Aotea riot in Auckland when I got hit in the head by a flying bottle from some dirtbag.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:57am
- softail 1450
  
  Simon ,”they felt like they had won lotto”,
  FFS ,they have,on the taxpayers dime.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:34am
- Felt
  
  Has anyone noticed that Cindy without makeup is becoming increasingly disturbing. She has pale to grey skin, she has lost facial fat (baby fat) and looks drawn, her eyes flick from sparkle to daggers in an instant, her mouth is constantly changing shape as she struggles to maintain her mirror face, her moods are increasingly erratic. She only appears comfortable when in the company of children or those that agree with every word she says. All this and she is just out of her honeymoon period. 2 long years to go!
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:40am
  - BlueGriffon
    
    I was wondering if she’s pregnant again…. She can beat Bhuto by having had 2 kids while in office.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:47am
    - calendar girl
      
      What does Jethro have to say about that?
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:14am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      Late 30s with the clock ticking- she will be pregnant again just in time for the next election.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:44am
      - Longknives
        
        You reckon that will work? She’s already used the baby trick..
        I reckon a ‘Royal’ Wedding in New Zealand just before the next Election.
        Maori Culture everywhere, Dave Dobbyn singing, A beaming Jacinda being led up the aisle by Winston….(Those clunky black cankle boots under the Wedding dress of course..)
        The ‘Woman’s Day’ crowd will love it!
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:49am
  - Longknives
    
    I reckon she is morphing into Helen Clark. (Same clothes, pasty complexion, bitter and twisted scowl)
    Bet she gets the Helen haircut soon to complete the transformation!
    
    Clark Gayford you are certainly a lucky man Ha Ha
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:38am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      She is sounding just like her- her voice has dropped.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:45am
      - Tall Man
        
        Voice coaching. The general feeling is that a deeper voice carries more authority
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:40am
      - Tall Man
        
        Check this out….
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u19QfJWI1oQ
        
        Secret cracked at about minute 1:40.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:48am
    - Tall Man
      
      Options I believe.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQduC6N5OY
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:40am
  - RF
    
    Yep… just noticed that up close she has a twisted mouth… the many facial expressions are caused by her trying to cover the prominent two front teeth.
    
    During the pre election debates her top lip stuck to her teeth and this caused a problem.
    
    For someone who cannot handle stress – as admitted by her on a number of occasions – she sure has chosen a strange career path.
    
    She has already lost 2 ministers and number 3 is being loaded into the catapult. In addition Peters is obviously her boss.
    
    How embarrassing. Time to bring out the baby to divert attention.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:06am
    - sooty
      
      No 4 (3 pies)& 5 (twitford) are been inserted in the loading tray as we speak!
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:48am
    - Tall Man
      
      Twisted mind as well.
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:49am
    - Paulus
      
      I had teeth like hers as a child and was named “Bucktooth” unkindly.
      Then a fortune later I had orthodontics to correct it.
      
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      November 8, 2018 1:59pm
Paulus

Wondersful to see the Koha of $1,900,000 given yesterday to the Ratana Church.
Guess what there is another $1,300,000 to follow (in small print)
And it is all called Koha !
Oh to be a Labour Party Visionary – a what ?
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November 8, 2018 8:20am
- waikatogirl
  
  It’s TAXPAYERS money paid by hardworking NZ’ers. ? ? ?
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:26am
- dubya
  
  Ratana is a cult. At least Gloriavale and the Brethren are enterprising.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:06am
  - michael_s2
    
    How is it any different from Brian Tamaki’s Destiny Church.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:22am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      Destiny is an actual threat to the left and the media.
      
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      November 8, 2018 9:47am
      - stephieboy
        
        MrsAnnie, a threat? In what ways?
        
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        November 8, 2018 10:35am
      - Tall Man
        
        You may have to explain for steffy girl, labour want to know why they are so scared of Tamaki.
        
        We know why they are scared off Bridges, he totally wipes the floor with Ardern.
        
        Just for steffy…yes, we know she’s a girl..
        
        Ardern is a liar.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:50am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ratana looks a pretty standard Christian denomination as far as I can see.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te_Haahi_Ratana
    
    http://www.theratanachurch.org.nz/temple.html
    
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    November 8, 2018 5:13pm
- Harkman
  
  Ha, so right in the centre of Chch there is a new gym opposite the Bridge of Remembrance called “Koha Fitness,” on the block of the old police station and army barracks that somehow Ngai Tahu acquired. Originally Ngai Tahu promised to build apartments on the block to house people but guess what they did instead? Office buildings (including the gym), a swanky cafe opposite the council buildings, that the local Labour bureaucrats frequent, and car parking. “Koha” alright.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:15am
- KevOB
  
  Under what vote item was that?
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:10am
  - Tall Man
    
    “My money..don’t be nosey”..says Ardern
    
    Ardern is a liar.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:52am
Tarquin North

I see Shane Jones thinks banks should pay 100 million a year for the pleasure of doing business in this country. Either the cost of porn has gone through the roof or this twat has now become a card carrying communist. Just another reason not to vote NZF.
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November 8, 2018 8:27am
- Happychappy
  
  His big mouth got him no where in Labour and like many others before him he will say something that will cost Winston First percentages in the lead up polls that will give his corrupt Leader the shits and it will farewell Shane Jones.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:36am
- cmm
  
  It is an invitation to spread some koha.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:43am
  - sooty
    
    He’e so stuupid that that he does not realise that the million bucks he wants has to come out of the banks customers pockets!
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:12am
- rangitoto
  
  So that would mean Kiwibank, SBS and TSB making a loss unless they increase fees and/or interest margins.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:33am
Left Right and Centre

NZ – the 51st state in the union.

Govt owned free to air channel Duke clears out six hours to cover US election coverage.

Why ?
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November 8, 2018 8:33am
- Nukuleka
  
  Meanwhile RNZ simply regurgitates the contents of online CNN: first openly gay governor, first two Muslim women reps- plus a quivering, quavering Nancy Pelosi gabbing on about a tsunami being made up of many little water droplets- or some such profound inanity.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:50am
  - flipper
    
    THIS IS A BETTER ANALYSIS…et al.
    Better because it uses fact rather than opinion…
    
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/yes-democrats-have-won-the-house-but-behind-pelosis-soaring-rhetoric-is-this-harsh-political-reality
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:15am
    - stephieboy
      
      flipper , what kind of facts?
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:25am
      - flipper
        
        Read it and comprehend dipshit.
        
        But that seems to be beyond a stupid baby.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        steffy is a girl,
        
        Ardern is a liar.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:53am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Give it up arsehole, you have no idea of how complicated American Politics is. And in case you need reminding look at the maps, rather Red, I’d say…. (Even though the commy Dems have more seats)
        
        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-house-elections.html
        
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        November 8, 2018 8:40pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And whereas Trump thus far has lost 26 seats, Obama in 2010 lost 60, and Clinton in 1994 more than 50. Both were re-elected two years later. Trump’s loss, in terms of seats in the House is only 9th equal, whereas Obama seems destined to be the Biggest Loser for posterity.
    
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    November 8, 2018 1:33pm
- Harkman
  
  They thought Trump would be slaughtered, but he actually gained control of the Senate (Corker gone, Flake gone, McCain gone, 3-4 Democrats who don’t vote his way, gone). What is worse for the new Democrats who defeated Republicans, they all promised to rid the country of Nancy Pelosi, a promise already broken.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:21am
secondcumming

My missus has always been quick to tell anyone who’ll listen that I’ve done some real dumb shit since we’ve been together. Then you come across a story like this, and it all pales into insignificance…..

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1059939096406179840
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November 8, 2018 8:34am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Silicock . . .
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:42am
- Dave Mann
  
  Thanks for the Twitter link. I followed the link there to the full story:
  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7676493/silicone-injection-balls-man-dies/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
  
  Its wonderful. OK it’s meant to be sad and tragic blah blah blah…. but actually I found it hilarious that this huge balding 28 year old poof would submit himself to being somebody’s ‘pup’ and mutilate himself like that. The pictures of him and his idiot mates just cracked me up. Comedy gold!
  
  Call me insensitive…. but sometimes ya just gotta laugh!
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:04am
  - sooty
    
    Darwin strikes again!
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      sooty, yet that large crotch must make you dribble with envy.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:24am
      - Tall Man
        
        steffy is a girl,
        
        Ardern is a liar.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:53am
  - Longknives
    
    Any truth to the rumour the Labour Government is going to use taxpayer $$ to provide free silicone nut injections for their beloved Gay Community?
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:36am
  - starboard
    
    LOL, what a bunch of sickly looking perverted weirdos. Definitely the sort of diseased creeps and filth bags that would support the Liarbour party.
    One of them looks like Swissball.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:36am
big bruv

I am convinced that one of the main reasons Labour are determined to destroy the economy of New Plymouth is because the fine folk of that town repeatedly refused to elect Angry Little as their MP.
We have seen just how nasty and vicious the scum from the left can be, the chance to wreak their revenge is not being missed.
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November 8, 2018 8:47am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Actually big bruv, much of the Taranaki oil and gas activity takes place in the Whanganui electorate which stretches up past Stratford inland, and past Opunake on the coast. It’s a National stronghold as well.
  
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  November 8, 2018 1:35pm
dcrown

Bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/415510-sessions-out-at-justice-department
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November 8, 2018 8:57am
srylands

I heard Minister Martin on radio saying she was investigating tougher regulations on boxing after the unfortunate death in Christchurch. It is depressing that there is a view that the government should regulate every activity where there is possible harm. The folk that enter these charity boxing matches do so with free will and knowledge.
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November 8, 2018 9:11am
- Harkman
  
  She wants to ban porn as well, good luck getting Shane Jones to support that one ?.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:23am
  - Longknives
    
    “The government should regulate every activity where there is possible harm”
    
    No more Young Labour camps then?
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:32am
    - flipper
      
      Yep ….
      Say, when is that Labour pervert back in Court ????
      
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      November 8, 2018 11:26am
      - sooty
        
        Wood’n know!
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:53am
      - Tall Man
        
        Won’t matter, nothing will happen.
        
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        November 8, 2018 12:54pm
- stigie
  
  Give me fucking strength, will this inept government now come out and ban surfing as well, as the chances of being mauled be a shark..?
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:42am
  - srylands
    
    Or drowning. No doubt surfing kills more people than boxing.
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:11am
  - Tall Man
    
    Especially south of Kawhia where the locals like to take the odd pot shot. Anything done about that or was it protected under the ToW?
    
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    November 8, 2018 12:57pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “The folk that enter these charity boxing matches do so with free will and knowledge.”
  
  The government would very much like to regulate free will and knowledge.
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:41pm
Harkman

Jeff Sessions has resigned, what a disaster he has been.
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November 8, 2018 9:23am
- fernglas
  
  He could have had a great career as Trump’s A-G, but inexplicably found a conflict of interest to rule himself out of the Mueller inquiry. God preserve us from principles.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:31am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Fence Sitter. Trump was alluding to making a clean sweep. in his media conference.
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:52am
- stephieboy
  
  Harkman , honesty was his disqualification.
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:14am
  - Tall Man
    
    steffy is a girl,
    
    Ardern is a liar.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:54am
- Jules99
  
  Great headline from Breitbart: Marijuana Industry Gets High as Jeff Sessions Resigns
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2018/11/07/marijuana-cannabis-industry-gets-high-as-jeff-sessions-resigns/
  
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  November 8, 2018 1:37pm
stigie

Indoctrination of future Labour voters !~

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/s/k/5/f/7/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1240×700.1sk4ut.png/1541571955916.jpg
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November 8, 2018 10:13am
- stephieboy
  
  stigie, for you too happily and easily mixing it among ordinary folk?
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    steffy is a girl,
    
    Ardern is a liar.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:55am
EAD_TWO

Royal Mint rejected Roald Dahl coin over his anti-Semitic views

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/06/royal-mint-scrapped-plans-commemorate-roald-dahl-due-perceived/

Really makes you wonder who has their hands on the supply of money and what sort of interests they have, and what power that brings.

But seriously, if I wanted to persuade Kiwiblog that Jews control the levers of power, I couldn’t do a better job than the people who control the levers of power are doing already.
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November 8, 2018 10:14am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, the problem with your trying to convince is that you’re hopelessly deluded!
  
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  November 8, 2018 10:20am
  - starboard
    
    Pot Kettle
    
    LOL!
    
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    November 8, 2018 10:30am
    - stephieboy
      
      starboard , your life is full of rich irony.
      
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      November 8, 2018 10:34am
      - Tall Man
        
        steffy is a girl,
        
        Ardern is a liar.
        
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        November 8, 2018 11:55am
  - Tall Man
    
    steffy is a girl,
    
    Ardern is a liar.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:55am
  - Tall Man
    
    English not your first language steffy girl?
    
    steffy is a girl,
    
    Ardern is a liar.
    
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    November 8, 2018 12:00pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  “I’m certainly anti-Israeli and I’ve become antisemitic in as much as that you get a Jewish person in another country like England strongly supporting Zionism.
  
  I think they should see both sides. It’s the same old thing: we all know about Jews and the rest of it. There aren’t any non-Jewish publishers anywhere, they control the media – jolly clever thing to do – that’s why the president of the United States has to sell all this stuff to Israel ….” – Roald Dahl
  
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  November 8, 2018 11:05am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Lucky Dahl lived in more tolerant times when we had something somewhat resembling free speech. These days Dahl would be “social shamed” and all the Publishers would abandon him like the way apex predators abandon a carcass.
    
    Instead of the great free independent minds writing the greatest children’s novels of all time (see also the “Anti-Semitic” Brothers Grimm) we now get talentless PC hacks like JK Rowling foisted upon us.
    
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    November 8, 2018 11:15am
Manolo

Fake news CNN under fire:
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/trump-scolds-cnn-reporter-for-being-rude-as-wh-staffer-wrestles-microphone-away-during-presser
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November 8, 2018 10:47am
- DigNap15
  
  I like the way the girl wrested the mike of that CNN reporter.
  Trump was very dignified.
  Of course its a fucking invasion and CNN are supporting it!
  
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  November 8, 2018 6:28pm
Captain Mainwaring

Is Hosking losing his marbles?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156538

I would have thought that he would be the first to know that when the Nats greased the tracks so well even a train running in reverse with its brakes on would take longer than a year to run out of momentum.
The stuff that’s looming over the horizon will be the real test of whether this ‘Government’ is running a successful economy.
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November 8, 2018 10:56am
- lifesgood
  
  Hosking has clearly been taken in for re-education by the socialist party of NZ.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:16pm
Monique Watson

That stupid asshole Sroubek is saying he’s not a burglar.
No but you are a drain on taxpayer’s money being convicted of importing 5kg of MDMA you cock.
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November 8, 2018 11:53am
big bruv

Lets ask Sroubek for a copy of his client list.
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November 8, 2018 12:33pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Or the invite list to his Queenstown wedding in 2016.
  
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  November 8, 2018 1:06pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Obviously didn’t have much of a married life before he was put away.
    And now the marriage is over.
    WTF was the woman thinking?
    
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    November 8, 2018 4:15pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      How long had he known the woman?
      It said in NZ Herald today that his in-laws own the Remuera House he lived in.
      The in-laws are based in Russia.
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156732
      
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      November 8, 2018 5:21pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

The left and mainstream Western media call Trump a madman and Merkel a hero, and they are surprised that Europe is swinging to the right, lol.
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November 8, 2018 1:08pm
Surely Knott

Labour housing public event. With a Labour party mp speaking, a Labour party logo and Parliamentary Services Logo, and an Authorised by MP byline. Is it a party advert being advertised on numerous Auckland Council media channels and hosted in Auckland Council Chambers. Seems to conflict with their conduct policy that elected members shouldn’t use council media for electioneering purposes.
If they want to have a housing event at Council it should party neutral? But clearly the electioneering for the next local elections is underway. https://www.facebook.com/events/1981604895470434/
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November 8, 2018 1:21pm
- Tall Man
  
  No pretense there then, labour to the fore for the Auckland labour council.
  
  Sometimes it pays to check whose coat you have attached your petard to. When Twyford falls, these fuckwits will go right down with them.
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:46pm
Shunda barunda

This new satire page on facebook to oppose union activism could be a laugh, give it some likes to get it off the ground.
https://www.facebook.com/Socialist-Teachers-Feminist-Union-of-NZ-308289623337677/
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November 8, 2018 1:41pm
- Tall Man
  
  STFU, I like it. Wait until team Ardern’s interns get a whiff. Can’t wait for steffy girl and the rest to get a whiff.
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:40pm
Keeping Stock

Interesting times await this afternoon:

Q2 Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE to the Minister of Immigration: Did he meet with officials on 19 September 2018 to discuss the deportation liability of Karel Sroubek, also known as Jan Antolik; if so, at what time?

Q6 ANDREW BAYLY to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Can he confirm that a purchaser of a KiwiBuild house can sell that same house within three years and keep 70 percent of any capital profit that may arise?

Q7 CHRIS BISHOP to the Minister of Police: Does he have confidence in Deputy Commissioner of Police Wally Haumaha?

Q9 JONATHAN YOUNG to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Does she stand by all her statements and actions in relation to the energy and resources portfolio?

Given the old political chestnut “Never ask a question you don’t already know the answer to”, there could be some fun this afternoon. Twyford in particular is very vulnerable today, whereas Lees-Galloway is likely to hide behind “not in the public interest” again today.

And when will the Haumaha report be released? It will almost certainly be dumped tomorrow given that the House recesses for two weeks from 6pm tonight, but will it be 2pm, 4pm, 5pm or even nearer to the weekend?
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November 8, 2018 1:42pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Looks like Woodhouse is scoring for points against Lees-Galloway.
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:33pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Lees-Galloway has admitted today that he received a briefing from INZ officials on 19 September 2018 at 4.30pm. Within an hour he read the file, made his decision, and wrote to Sroubek’s lawyer.
    
    Yet the PM has said it was a “difficult decision” and that Lees-Galloway gave it “careful consideration”. Patently, he simply ticked a box, and moved on. If he does not resign now, he should be sacked forthwith.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12150916
    
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    November 8, 2018 2:39pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And how well do the PM and Mr Gayford know Richie Hardcore, who was named yesterday as one of those providing testimonials in support of Sroubek to Immigration NZ?
    
    This FB video seems to suggest they are quite well known to one another…
    
    https://www.facebook.com/phil.twyford.mp/videos/join-jacinda-ardern-richie-hardcore-carmel-sepuloni-and-phil-twyford-at-zeal-in-/1513539915369185/
    
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    November 8, 2018 3:05pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Richie Hardcore?
      Sounds like the name of one of Shane’s favourite videos.
      
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      November 8, 2018 4:18pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And in this video, Hardcore can’t conceal his devotion to and love for the then-Leader of the Opposition
    
    https://www.facebook.com/richie.hardcore/posts/oh-my-god-i-love-the-way-jacinda-conducted-this-interview-shes-so-intelligent-an/1276634445781036/
    
    So why would he be writing a letter in support of a convicted criminal like Karel Sroubek?
    
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    November 8, 2018 3:12pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      I wonder if Richie likes fishing!
      
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      November 8, 2018 3:16pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        He likes replying to Clarke Gayford’s tweets, and he calls him “Bro”
        
        https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/988207941093285888
        
        Isn’t Google wonderful?
        
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        November 8, 2018 3:23pm
      - secondcumming
        
        “Well, here’s another fine mess you’ve gotten me into”
        
        🙂
        
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        November 8, 2018 3:58pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Have you tried checking out some Green Party images?
      https://twitter.com/NZGreens/status/899112861183598592
      
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      November 8, 2018 3:47pm
    - Surely Knott
      
      https://wearetenzing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_6795-1-1.jpeg
      Ummmm?!
      
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      November 8, 2018 4:04pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        So anti-drugs but keen to get residency for a drug mule mate.
        
        I hate having to read between the lines.
        
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        November 8, 2018 5:23pm
graham

Well, this comes as no surprise to me. When men can identify as women, and compete in woman’s sports, why shouldn’t a 69-year-old man be allowed to identify as a 45-year-old man?

Emile Ratelband, a 69-year-old Dutchman, is battling to legally reduce his age by 20 years so he can get more work and attract more women on Tinder.

He argues that if transgender people are allowed to change sex, he should be allowed to change his date of birth because doctors said he has the body of a 45-year-old.

And he’s suing his local authority after they refused to amend his age on official documents.

He’s had a check-up done which supposedly shows that his biological age is 45 years.

Hell, why not? Makes just as much sense as a man identifying as a woman.
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November 8, 2018 2:23pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Makes just as much sense as a man identifying as a woman.”
  
  What is the difference between a male identifying as a female, and a 30-year-old identifying as a 65-year-old?
  
  I feel, therefore I am?
  
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  November 8, 2018 2:38pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”I feel, therefore I am?”…..
    
    That meme has already been taken……by Labour’s Karangahake groper!
    
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    November 8, 2018 2:55pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    And if you feel Maori you might just be eligible for a bite of the treaty settlements. Pick the right iwi though.
    
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    November 8, 2018 3:42pm
- Inandout
  
  Well you can’t discriminate in NZ with age, so why can’t you feel young? Also the next Olympics will be a hoot with all the she-men.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:44pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Fair enough, he can hand back 4 years of pension payments and reapply when he`s 85, a win/ win for the taxpayer in my book.
  
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  November 8, 2018 5:23pm
MH

his mind is clogged.
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November 8, 2018 2:53pm
stoptheboats

“‘ She holds a PhD in New Zealand History from the University of Canterbury ” – well that was a big help in the Energy portfolio wasnt it !

likes Pies

Knackered future NZ energy supplies.
cant see the wood for the trees
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November 8, 2018 2:57pm
- stephieboy
  
  How would an ACA Accountancy Muldoon style help?
  
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  November 8, 2018 3:17pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Ooo, labour been looking at the files for a change. Maybe pop down the hall and show the Immigration minister how to do that as he seems to struggle.
    
    So let’s look at Grant’s skills. ” In 1991, his father was imprisoned after stealing around $120,000 from the law firm where he worked”. Oops, sorry, that was not the right thing, that was just how he funded his BA in political studies. Sounds appropriate for a minister of finance.
    
    Oh I see, you were poking the borax at Sir Rob because he didn’t have a degree in communications from Waikato. Bet he never worked in a fish and chip shop either.
    
    “Serving as a corporal and sergeant in the army in the Second World War,[1] Muldoon completed his training as an accountant and returned to New Zealand as its first fully qualified cost accountant. He was first elected to the House of Representatives at the 1960 general election as the Member of Parliament for Tamaki. Muldoon served successively as Minister of Tourism (1967), Minister of Finance (1967–1972), and Deputy Prime Minister (1972). He became Leader of the Opposition in 1974 and soon led the National Party to a decisive victory in the 1975 general election.”
    
    What a shame for steffy girl, he seems imminently more qualified that a tooth fairy called Ardern.
    
    You labour interns are just so easy to squash like the vermin you are.
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl.
    
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    November 8, 2018 4:38pm
  - KevOB
    
    Muldoon had an amazing ability including his understanding of economic history.
    
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    November 8, 2018 6:50pm
    - Tall Man
      
      That’s true. Met the man, very smart cookie.
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:00pm
- KevOB
  
  What is she doing in a technical portfolio?
  
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  November 8, 2018 6:43pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Fuck all, was that a rhetorical question?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:02pm
rangitoto

“Iain Lees-Galloway just admitted to reporters he didn’t read the full Karel Sroubek file before making his decision.”

How much is he paid to not do his job?
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November 8, 2018 3:26pm
- nasska
  
  Another good question is what it will take for one of the “reporters” to break ranks & ask Two Fathers why he is dying in the ditch over a foreign criminal.
  
  “Who are you protecting Minister?” would do for openers.
  
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  November 8, 2018 3:33pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    I agree..
    There are some very big players involved here…
    One little minister isn’t too much of a sacrifice.
    
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    November 8, 2018 4:01pm
- Tall Man
  
  And yet he said he spent more time on this file than normally. So more time and he gets it wrong….they’re fucked.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:01pm
Keeping Stock

Lees-Galloway might as well clear out his Beehive office now:

Under pressure Immigration Minister Iain-Lees Galloway admits he did not read the whole immigration file before making his controversial decision granting residency to Karel Sroubek.

And the decision took him “within about an hour or so”.

“I read various aspects of the full file. I didn’t rely solely on the summary. This is the usual process for these decisions. I took my time. I took much much longer on this decision than I have on other decisions, and I’m following exactly the process that I inherited from the previous minister.”

Lees-Galloway said he asked a lot of questions about the case.

“I gave it the due consideration that I was able to with the information I had available to me at the time.”

He said he has looked at the whole file since the original decision.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156782&ref=NZH_tw&ref=NZH_Tw

The only reason Lees-Galloway will have read the full file since the decision became public knowledge is to attempt to cover his own arse. He made an appalling decision, without doing his homework. If he does not resign before knock-off time today, Ardern should sack him, and not just from the Immigration portfolio, but from Cabinet.

One year gone, and three Ministers have either been sacked or are about to be sacked. Apart from being a reflection on how poor Labour’s talent pool is, it suggests that the PM has no control over her Ministers.
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November 8, 2018 3:43pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Have some pity for the Muslim-lover from Palmerston North.
  He’s doing a great job of protecting his boss and her Government from what is starting to smell like a scandal of monumental proportions.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:25pm
- Huevon
  
  He’s finished.
  
  What a dream team Ardern has assembled….
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:44pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Yep; they’re dropping like nine-pins. Who will be the next one to have to fall on their sword? Twyford maybe?
    
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    November 8, 2018 4:45pm
    - RF
      
      Roll up roll up roll up… who is next.
      
      I see smart mouth Peters has slithered overseas. He knows that rats desert sinking ships…..
      
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      November 8, 2018 7:12pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  What was the reason for the rushed decision?
  
  They guy was in prison, and wasn’t going anywhere, which should have been a red flag in the first place.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:52pm
  - NZDirect
    
    because he had a black book and after reading between the lines, maybe someone very close to the PM/Govt is listed in it
    
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    November 8, 2018 7:17pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Now if I was the Nats Immigration chap, I would go to old Karel Sroubek and offer the following: Your blackbook. In return, Citizenship, a full pardon, and a spot on the next Olympic Team.
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:24pm
      - howitis
        
        I like your thinking!
        Dirty politics as it was meant to be played.
        
        It looks like Queen maker (or priNZess maker) Wile E. Whinny has being playing the dirty game all along.
        -Was never going to go with Nats on any day of the week.
        -Has being playing JL Ross for inside info and recordings.
        -Has kept his coalition agreement secret as part of a open and transparent government!!
        
        What goes around comes around.
        There is only one path for bullies and liars.
        Take ’em out.
        Incinerate and bury the ashes.
        
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        November 8, 2018 9:41pm
- JibberJabber
  
  I guess it`s easier to admit that you`re lazy than it is to admit you`re corrupt, personally, I`d take an each way bet on what he is.
  
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  November 8, 2018 5:19pm
stigie

“Who are you protecting Minister?” would do for openers.”

Not a chance Nasska, Labour are spending a huge amount of taxpayers dollars on a wank feast this coming Christmas, reporters need to be on their best behavior to qualify !~
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November 8, 2018 3:44pm
greybeard

NewstalkZB is currently running ads for monetlender “Moola” : totally reprehensible , they make it sound glamorous and desirable to borrow money but never a mention of the extortionate interest rates.
I am surprised NewstalkZB allows the ads for this company.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108327170/shortterm-lender-moola-under-investigation-over-fees
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November 8, 2018 3:54pm
- DJ Ward
  
  When your in a lifeboat (financial viability) swimming with sharks isn’t unrealistic.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:52pm
  - greybeard
    
    You are right and I have been somewhat naive.
    
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    November 8, 2018 5:50pm
  - Tall Man
    
    you’re FFS.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:04pm
Monique Watson

It’s all National’s fault. I LG says so.
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November 8, 2018 4:09pm
- Colville
  
  yeah ILG was distracted by JK eating a baby…
  
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  November 8, 2018 7:22pm
Lee C

,,,, and he would have no cause to lie about it.
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November 8, 2018 4:15pm
Prince

On TV1 news last night, and again on the late news, there was a piece on Ardern visiting Ratana, and Labour gifting a bible, and a few million dollars.
Visuals of Ardern being swamped by young kids etc etc. Much was made by the voiceover about Labour’s special relationship with Ratana, Ardern’s drawing power with the young. Our PM was interviewed with much head nodding, smiling and enthusiasm.

The wierd thing is, I heard today Simon Bridges also attended. The TV news totally ignored him, and presumably Ratana did the same.

Two issues for me:
Why is TV1 news be so openly biased ?
Why do National bother with Ratana events, and why do they continue to prop them up when in power ?

I hope the next National Govt has long memories when it comes to these insults.
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November 8, 2018 4:28pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Bridges actually spoke to the crowd at the powhiri, and got a few laughs when he joked about there not being too many votes for National last time around. He said that Ian McKelvie got one vote at Ratana in the Rangitikei electorate, and that it was probably someone who went into the wrong booth 😀
  
  At least he’s being realistic.
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:48pm
stoptheboats

love that vid of Trumpy dealing to that smartypants CNN man a few hours ago – a real snorter !
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November 8, 2018 4:29pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Have you seen this one from Sarah Huckabee-Sanders? Acosta does a mean karate chop…
  
  https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1060374680991883265
  
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  November 8, 2018 4:53pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Acosta has now been banned from the Whitehouse
    
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    November 8, 2018 5:21pm
Jack5

Ahoy, Morrissey!

Another one for your groper list:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/abc-journalist-releases-explosive-statement-about-luke-foley-20181108-p50erf.html
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November 8, 2018 5:38pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The ABC has released a lengthy statement from Ashleigh Raper, outlining her version of the events of an incident allegedly involving Mr Foley at a CBD bar in late November 2016. … During that conversation, Ms Raper said Mr Foley told her: “I’m not a groper, I’m just a drunk idiot.”
  
  Hmm… if it were Ms Raper and Mr Feeley, that would have been amusing.
  
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  November 8, 2018 5:55pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108460697/nine-children-11-dogs-faeces-in-every-room-of-the-house

This is a disgusting situation and I feel for the poor kids, but I note that the lead photo for the article has a white person’s foot in the crap.
Given all the other facts, is this realistic ?
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November 8, 2018 5:49pm
- Longknives
  
  Nine kids and Eleven Dogs-All at the Taxpayer’s expense!
  (Her DPB cheque would be rather healthy)
  When will this lunacy end?? Answer-Never!
  Because those are nine more Labour voters in a few years time….
  
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  November 8, 2018 5:59pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Nine children in her care.
  Were they all hers?
  A bigger problem than a bit of dog shit.
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:19pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12156721

“Transgender people can now have their gender changed on their birth certificate, and in the same spirit there should be room for an age change.”
The Dutchman said he is discriminated against because of his age on a daily basis.”?

This guy deserves a medal!
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November 8, 2018 5:55pm
- rangitoto
  
  Cheaper life Insurance premiums.
  
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  November 8, 2018 5:58pm
  - Longknives
    
    I identify as Odin- Norse God of Wisdom, Poetry and War!
    Can I change my birth certificate too? And maybe some plastic surgery at the Taxpayer’s expense??
    
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    November 8, 2018 6:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Where’s your hammer.
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

TV One news tonight
Item 1 – 9 minutes of Yank election news
Item 2- 30sec Westcoast rain & flood
Item 3 – 30 sec Iain Lees-Galloway quick decision.

If I want Yank news, I’ll go to a Yank News source.
Why is TV One news neglecting to do a decent job on NZ news?
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November 8, 2018 6:13pm
- Longknives
  
  They’ve been given the word Maggy.
  The ILG scandal could potentially bring this Government down if anyone in the Media had the balls to dig a little deeper…
  
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  November 8, 2018 6:38pm
  - nasska
    
    Any ideas about how they could be “incentivised” to do a little subterranean excavation?
    
    If Labour manage to bury this we’ve lost the best chance ever of getting rid of this bunch of parasites & no-hopers.
    
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    November 8, 2018 6:44pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well, if my reading between the lines is accurate, then it is very big.
    I don’t think it will go away.
    By my reckoning, ILG is a pawn… and doesn’t seem to know what he has been pulled into.
    
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    November 8, 2018 6:50pm
    - nasska
      
      The thing is Maggy that the investigative reporting into Sroubek’s criminal activities has been fairly comprehensive. It’s just that now that it threatens the CoL, no one has the guts to ask the big questions.
      
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      November 8, 2018 6:57pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Surely you could get absolutely legless and let a bit slip and then claim you were in a drunken stupor so it’s not your fault….
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:17pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: Northern Territory home owners anxious as property prices reach lowest point since 2009 – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-08/real-estate-property-prices-housing-institute-inpex/10476166

Key points:

•More than a billion dollars has been wiped from the NT property market since 2014

•Darwin house prices are at their lowest since 2009

•The vacancy rate has risen to 8.5 per cent in the northern suburbs

Using a combination of her life savings and a bank loan, Penelope Paton, then 26, made the biggest purchase of her life.
But less than three years later, Ms Paton and her partner Markus Tumuls, 29, face the prospect of losing up to $160,000 in value off their home.

“I bought my first home in Palmerston in 2015 for $520,000,” Ms Paton said.

“I saved up a lot of money for my deposit and it’s all gone, essentially.” … read more via hyperlink above …

… via … behind paywall …

Inside Darwin’s epic property crash – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/inside-darwins-epic-property-crash/

Darwin, Northern Territory – Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin,_Northern_Territory
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November 8, 2018 6:25pm
DigNap15

And Ardern had the cheek to say that no one made a mistake re Karel Suobrek!
Yes they all did
The immigration “officials”
And Her minister ILG
And Winston Peters
And Herself
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November 8, 2018 6:33pm
- Tall Man
  
  Full transparency..she’ll stand up and take it on the chins, seriously, watch her tomorrow.
  
  “It’s all my fault, I put a fuckwit in charge and as expected the fuckwit fucked up”.
  
  Oops, sorry guys, that was winston’s press release..give me a minute….
  
  Yep, got it…
  
  “I have a baby so fuck off you scummy little fuckers”.
  
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  November 8, 2018 8:22pm
  - nasska
    
    Neve will be back in the limelight until things die down.
    
    Poor little Squirrel!
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:37pm
    - stigie
      
      Neve Te Aroha can be bought out tomorrow for the usual gushing and fawning to take the heat away from that POS Lees Galloway while mum might go and visit a couple of primary schools to relax !~
      
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      November 8, 2018 8:54pm
DigNap15

That Megan Woods is an evil piece of her work.
We are leading the world towards a clean green economy!
What going back to basket weaving?

The worlds best companies are trying to come up with clean renewable energy, and they have not yet been able to.
Yet little old NZ with an R&D budget the size of a small peanut is going to lead the world!
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November 8, 2018 6:35pm
- greybeard
  
  Megan Woods:
  
  Minister Energy and Resources
  Minister Government Digital Services
  Minister Greater Christchurch Regeneration
  Minister Earthquake Commission
  Minister Research, Science and Innovation
  
  So big you can see her from space.
  
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  November 8, 2018 6:52pm
  - stigie
    
    Minister for cheese rolls and fine dining !~
    
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    November 8, 2018 7:10pm
    - nasska
      
      Don’t knock her stigie. The good oil has it that she possesses the ability to light up a room…..
      
      …..just by moving away from the window! 🙂
      
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      November 8, 2018 7:13pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Yeah that’s the pies not the portfolios.
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/new-plymouth-man-accused-threatening-poison-milk-vats-meat-processing-plants-part-1080-protest

Mr Buchanan had been previously convicted of cutting ponga ferns out of a DoC reserve.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/79644844/taranaki-landscaper-admits-illegally-taking-ferns-from-a-protected-area
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November 8, 2018 6:56pm
Nostradamus

Megan Woods: Critical research being funded via Marsden Fund

New Zealand’s top researchers will be able to investigate critical issues and build knowledge across the board supported by $85.64 million over the next three years through the 2018 Marsden Fund round, announced today by Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods.
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The Marsden Fund is administered by the Royal Society of New Zealand. Proposals are evaluated by independent assessment panels and the final recommendations for funding are made by the Marsden Fund Council, which is chaired by Professor David Bilkey.

And on their website:

Professor Bilkey is pleased to see steadily increasing representation of women and Māori amongst the successful researchers. “It is also gratifying that Marsden Fund applicants who identify as female or Māori have been as successful as male and non-Māori applicants over the past five years. We will continue to monitor the Fund’s processes to make sure under-represented groups are not disadvantaged.”

“I am also delighted to see strong engagement with mātauranga Māori in applications across a diverse range of disciplines. These range from a study of Māori responses to 20th century welfare policies to the use of a waka-based craft to access and investigate remote volcanoes,” says Professor Bilkey. “These projects exemplify the thoughtful integration of Māori knowledge and methods with specific disciplinary approaches, and were evaluated as both rigorous and innovative by world-leading international referees.”

What a joke!
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November 8, 2018 7:04pm
- nasska
  
  …..”the use of a waka-based craft to access and investigate remote volcanoes”…..
  
  And our half-wit representative hands over $85.64 million to an outfit that uses a hollowed out tree for transport.
  
  They are stark raving, fucking insane!
  
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  November 8, 2018 7:10pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Marsden Fund awards 2018
  
  Some notable “awards”:
  
  $842,000 – Vā Moana: space and relationality in Pacific thought and identity
  
  $300,000 – The Natural History of Film Form: Film Aesthetics through Animal, Vegetable and Mineral Matter
  
  $300,000 – The role of Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums (GLAMS) in revitalising te reo Māori
  
  $935,000 – Pectin methylesterases: tuning pectin function with complex variations upon a simple theme
  
  $300,000 – Past Māori social organisation and movement in the North Island, New Zealand
  
  $823,000 – E kore au e ngaro! The enduring legacy of whakapapa
  
  $605,000 – A question of identity: how connected are Maori youth to ancestral marae, and does it matter?
  
  $300,000 – Te Kāpaukura a Kupe: The Ocean in the Sky – Māori Navigation Knowledge
  
  $827,000 – When and why did all the pā arrive? A multidisciplinary investigation into the spatial-temporal role of pā in the development of Māori culture
  
  $859,000 – The embrace of our ancestors: reimagining and recontextualising mātauranga Māori in psychology.
  
  Not much evidence of “under-represented groups” as far as I can see! Wouldn’t it be cheaper for taxpayers to pay some of these people the unemployment benefit? 🙂
  
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  November 8, 2018 7:21pm
  - Tall Man
    
    “Why do maori bash their kids and steal shit”?.
    
    Can I have funding to work that out?
    
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    November 8, 2018 8:18pm
Shaun the Sheep

Mark Levin comments on the US elections, media and Sessions sacking:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5859099412001/?playlist_id=930909813001#sp=show-clips
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November 8, 2018 7:36pm
Nostradamus

Azerbaijan bank fraudster’s wife spent 16 million pounds at Harrods, now facing extradition

A woman who spent nearly 16 million pounds ($28.8 million) at luxury London department store Harrods has been arrested after being the first person subjected to the UK’s new unexplained wealth laws. Zamira Hajiyeva, who is married to former International Bank of Azerbaijan chairman Jahangir Hajiyev, will have to explain where she got the money for her opulent spending.

It’s easy to explain where she got the money.

Ms Hajiyeva’s husband was sentenced to 15 years in an Azerbaijan jail in 2016, after he was convicted for embezzlement having defrauded the bank of up to $3.9 billion.

That money had to go somewhere, didn’t it!

Ms Hajiyeva also bought an $20.7 million five-bedroom home which, according to UK’s The Guardian, was roughly 90 metres from Harrods’ doors.

Imagine having to carry all those shopping bags 90 metres!

In court this week, her legal team said she was a “spendthrift”, but was not a “fraudster”.

What about “spendthrift” and “fraudster”?
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November 8, 2018 8:35pm
Nostradamus

Where’s EAD?

‘Entirely inapropriate’ lesson at Oz school included Nazi hats, gas canisters and swastika cake

An Australian school employee is being investigated after he brought firearms to class, baked a cake with a swastika on it and let a student dress up in a Nazi hat for a World War II history lesson. The Dromana Secondary College employee also allowed students to play with a Zyklon B gas cannister, which once contained a deadly chemical used for mass murder in concentration camp death chambers. The items were part of his personal collection of military memorabilia.

My world war 2 history lessons weren’t as “hands on” as this one! 🙂
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November 8, 2018 8:42pm
stigie

“Where’s EAD?”

Where’s DAD?

I do miss that quietly spoken ole coot..?
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November 8, 2018 9:04pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The last I heard, Stigie, was that he’s on a top-secret deep-ops mission to find Big Bruv and those emails. While writing a tell-all book on what really happened at LAX. With those commitments, the poor chap doesn’t have any free time to comment here at Kiwiblog!
  
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  November 8, 2018 9:14pm
  - stigie
    
    He did promise to release a book Nostra featuring us aids infested homo’s but i think trying to give up smoking has taken it’s toll on the poor sod !~
    
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    November 8, 2018 9:24pm
Nostradamus

If Megan Woods reads this thread, she’ll feel like we’re singling her out, so as a public service I’d like Megan to click on this link. We’ve found an ideal exercise partner for you, Megan!
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November 8, 2018 9:20pm
Hugh Pavletich

UNITED STATES: US mortgage rates jump to highest level in 7 years – AP / The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/us-mortgage-rates-jump-to-highest-level-in-7-years/2018/11/08/4b9bf3c4-e379-11e8-ba30-a7ded04d8fac_story.html?utm_term=.0b92c54d9025

U.S. mortgage rates jumped this week to the highest level in seven years, a trend that is pulling down home sales and slowing home price growth.

Mortgage buyer Freddie Mac said Thursday that the average rate on a 30-year, fixed rate mortgage rose to 4.94 percent, from 4.83 percent last week. A year ago the rate was 3.9 percent.

The average rate on a 15-year, fixed rate loan increased to 4.33 percent, from 4.23 percent last week. Read more via hyperlink above …
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TREASURIES -U.S. yields edge higher ahead of Fed statement | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-bonds/treasuries-u-s-yields-edge-higher-ahead-of-fed-statement-idUSL4N1XJ5LV
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The US debt is like ‘the boiling frog,’ investors say … Yahoo Finance

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ballooning-us-debt-like-boiling-frog-211753177.html
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