General Debate 2 November 2018

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David Fisher offers a timeline for the Jami-Lee Ross saga: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12152876

In contrast, here is WhaleOil’s timeline: https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/10/another-hit-job-from-david-fisher-which-i-must-correct-and-tell-the-truth-that-the-national-party-fails-to/
And an archived version for those who don’t want to visit WhaleOil: http://archive.today/gK0Ri

Thoughts?
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November 2, 2018 8:00am
- cmm
  
  My thoughts: There are bigger fish to fry. JLR has been a huge distraction.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:02am
  - tas
    
    Yes, but what I wonder is whether it’s a distraction that will flare up again. He doubtlessly has more recordings and he is still an MP. He could keep dripping information or he could wait and cause havoc just before the next election. I want to understand his motives better to predict what will happen.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:04am
    - GazzaW
      
      Maybe tas but by and large self-created independent MPs are totally ignored in Parliament by both sides of the House and staffers. They are pariahs and struggle daily for a presence. Think Brendan Horan as the most recent example.
      
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      November 2, 2018 8:33am
    - cmm
      
      “Yes, but what I wonder is whether it’s a distraction that will flare up again.”
      
      Naah. Now he has shat his nest people will just roll their eyes and say JLR is just going crazy again.
      
      There is no way he has bigger dirt. He would have played it by now when he was cornered.
      
      The biggest single thing to come out of this whole sad saga in terms of dirt on National was Bridges calling Maureen Pugh “fucking useless”. That was contained quickly by Bridges just apologizing.
      
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      November 2, 2018 8:42am
      - redeye
        
        And as a voter in her (Pugh’s) electorate I can confirm a significant increase in her public profile since.
        So maybe not downside?
        
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        November 2, 2018 9:09am
    - Rich Prick
      
      He’s an independent, his share price is $0 (~~buy~~ ~~hold~~ ~~sell~~ ignore).
      
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      November 2, 2018 8:59am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      Dead fish still stink
      
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      November 2, 2018 9:00am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        yes they do, they are however, still dead.
        
        I know of a Monk fish but am yet to hear of a Jesus fish; I stand to be corrected
        
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        November 2, 2018 10:24am
  - secondcumming
    
    *RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*
    
    Just how much of a problem is this likely to be for National?
    
    https://twitter.com/GregPresland/status/1058066549703995392
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:50am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  David Fishers article will grind Slaters gears severly as Slater has had a bug up his arse about Fisher for a long time.
  
  Fisher’s article seems pretty balanced but I imagine he would have had a wry smile in writing about Ross’s association with Slater, Slater’s modus operandi and current standing with National MP’s.
  
  The person who comes through well in this yet again is Simon Bridges.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:04am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Fishers shots are getting more subtle too and they cut deeper because of it. I naturally assume whatever Slater says is a lie or twisted beyond recognition from the actual facts.
    
    Don’t believe me? Check out his stories about Keith Locke jumping for joy when the planes hit the towers on 9/11.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:14am
- peterwn
  
  I like the Whip’s letter to Jami (cc to Trevor) saying it is Jami’s job to inform the Speaker that he is no longer a member of National caucus or party. Presumably until he does this, National collects the funding attributed to him and the National whips still hold by default his vote (but presumably will not exercise it).
  Hopefully while Jami is away, the National whips would have arranged with Parliamentary Services an alternative office outside the National ‘zone’ and rejigged his swipe card ‘accesses’ accordingly.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:11am
  - peterwn
    
    Just had another thought. Jami obviously wants to stay in Parliament, both for the renumeration and to secure his Parliamentary pension (he will have clocked up the 9 years in March 2020). It is safe to assume he has no chance in the 2020 election – I doubt that even Winston would want him.
    He however has the Sword of Damocles hanging over his head. If he breathes through his nose for the remainder of the term, National will most probably tolerate his presence in Parliament through gritted teeth. National would be reluctant to use the Waka hopper law against him. However if he speaks out of turn again, National would need to weigh up whether his actions or the use of the Waka hopper law would cause the most political damage. There does not seem to be a time limit for invoking it, but if it went to court, the court would probably rule that it had to be invoked within a ‘reasonable’ time.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:03am
    - dime
      
      “and to secure his Parliamentary pension (he will have clocked up the 9 years in March 2020)”
      
      i thought that pension was long gone?
      
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      November 2, 2018 9:07am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    National’s votes don’t matter on any issue. The CoL has absolute majority and the Greens and NZ First have sold their collective souls for a rid in crown limo e.g. Drunken dwarf endorsing the Immigration Minister’s decision.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:10am
  - peterwn
    
    So Cam remains totally arrogant on this one. He am Simon Lusk should be advising Jami to keep his head down and use the window of opportunity (remaining in Parliament) to re-build his life and find a new career direction.
    I do not know of any other ’employer’ who would give an employee two years of gardening leave on full pay.
    Perhaps having caused the unintended consequence of a mental breakdown his mentors should cease using him as a political pawn. His mentors probably cannot resist it.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:19am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    In all the party votes I have seen this week, National’s tally has been 55 votes. That confirms that the National whips are not exercising any right to claim Ross’ vote. He is consigned to the “Any other votes” category at the end of every party vote, and as long as he is absent, his vote will not be recorded unless he now givesw another party his proxy.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:26am
    - peterwn
      
      And the other party is free to accept or reject the proxy.
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:35pm
- Paulus
  
  Boring !
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:23am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I don’t have a lot of faith in Fisher, but his is more likely to be objective, given WO’s emotional investment in the matter.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:41am
  - Happychappy
    
    Hate consumes people and sooner than later he will be blinded by it and maybe lose every thing, he ain’t got much left as he has no credibility or respect and really is just a fat slob.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:44am
    - waikatosinger
      
      Would be fascinated to know what has been happening to Whaleoil’s site traffic numbers.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:03am
      - Woz
        
        I noticed a some time back that the number of comments on each post was way, way down, compared to the heyday. We’re talking single digits most of the time, getting up a little if it’s one of the principal topics du jour.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:46am
      - peterwn
        
        He used to gloat about increasing site traffic some years back but from memory he seemed to have lost confidence in those who measured traffic on various site.
        
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        November 2, 2018 12:37pm
- niggly
  
  Another interesting aspect is that many, many months ago WO would write (as a bit of a threat) that National (Bridges) made “promises” to MP’s that he wouldn’t be able to keep (eg in terms of promotion), which the David Fisher article touches upon.
  
  This looks like WO is referring to Ross, if so, Ross’ “unhappiness” about Bridges goes back before June (the date which Ross started “plotting” according to the David Fisher article).
  
  The sad thing is, Ross appears then to have been spending these last several months rather unproductively scheming (and leaking to WO) instead of fully concentrating on his job!
  
  However despite all this, I wish Ross well in his health recovery and if he could concentrate on being a MP (instead of being lead “astray” by his “friends”) and work constructively in Parliament, perhaps he could redeem himself from the disaster he has helped cause …
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:59am
  - Dave Mann
    
    He will never redeem himself. He’s an untrustworthy scheming manipulative cunt and, even though he’s been exposed as such, he’ll continue to make trouble wherever he goes. It’s not in his nature to redeem himself or to ‘work constructively’.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:09am
    - Flash
      
      I agree. What is more, it’s a safe bet that his parliamentary colleagues instinctively have been uncomfortable with him. Some people just don’t ‘ring true’, and in the end expose themselves for what they are. It happens in all walks of life.
      
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      November 2, 2018 9:50am
    - Random T Person
      
      He’s weak, too. If you want to play big boy games, including banging various chicks outside of your marriage, you can’t suddenly cry ‘mental health’and go running and crying to Mummy. Mental pressure is precisely what you’re going to get if you make your life messy and complicated.
      If you want a happy life, always keep it simple, especially in terms of what you stick your dick into.
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:39am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    The thing is Ross is obviously a narcissist, I am sure he and Bridges did discuss potential jobs post leadership. Ross wanted them all- he had a completely unrealistic expectations about what would happen. Bridges was thinking yes- JLR may be in line for front bench or shadow leader of the house or chief whip- but no one would ever be all three. JLR wanted all three- he heard what he wanted to hear, as he has with his recordings that showed nothing other than SB thought his list MP from the West Coast wasn’t up to it (which she isnt). JLR had never had a real job outside of politics other than as a swimming pool life guard, he does know how the real world works. It is wrong to make out Simon Bridges broke promises. What we have is an unstable mind that read more into this than what was actually there.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:18am
  - peterwn
    
    He would be better to keep head down and breathe through his nose for the next two years. He should seek leave from the Speaker to keep out of the place.
    
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    November 2, 2018 3:14pm
- Yvette
  
  Winston’s Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill reads like it was written by Joseph Heller, author of “Catch-22” – famous for the exchange:
  
  “Is Orr crazy? Can you ground him?”
  “I sure can but first he has to ask me to. That’s part of the rule.”
  “And then you can ground him?” Yossarian asked …
  “No, then I can’t ground him.”
  “You mean there’s a catch?”
  “Sure there is a catch,” Doc Daneeka replied. “Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.”
  
  One question is – While is seems National can choose to use the new legislation in regard to Jami-Lee Ross, does the new law actually state conditions that apply automatically whether Bridges decides to act or not?
  
  For the purposes of subsection (2), a member of Parliament ceases to be a parliamentary member of the political party for which the member of Parliament was elected only if—
  (a) the member of Parliament delivers to the Speaker a written notice that complies with section 55B; or
  (b) the parliamentary leader of the political party for which the member of Parliament was elected delivers to the Speaker a written notice that complies with section 55C.
  
  Does “only if” require action under this law or is it’s statement then untrue, and Ross is still a National Member?
  Does it mean “the member of Parliament” [Ross] must act under this law, or “the parliamentary leader of the political party” [Bridges] must act.
  
  Media this morning report National Party senior whip Barbara Kuriger has written to Ross detailing why the party had rejected his proxy vote. And adds –
  “You were expelled from the National Party caucus on 16 October 2018 and on the same date you resigned your membership of the New Zealand National Party … [It is] “now incumbent on you to confirm with the Speaker that you are no longer a member of the National Party caucus nor the New Zealand National Party”
  
  Doesn’t that mean, If Ross acts under 55B, a Notice from member of Parliament, Ross brings about is own demise – The seat of a member of Parliament to whom this section applies becomes vacant if the member of Parliament ceases to be a parliamentary member of the political party for which the member of Parliament was elected?
  
  Or Ross could not act, which presumably requires 55C Notice from parliamentary leader of political party, which means Bridges has to do for him.
  
  I guess the “Catch 22” is which happened first?
  Was Ross expelled from the caucus on 16 October, before he resigned his membership of the National Party on the same day.
  Does who it is now incumbent on to confirm with the Speaker, that Ross is no longer a member of the National Party caucus nor the New Zealand National Party, rest with who acted first?
  
  The other question then is – If Bridges, as party leader, simply informs the Speaker in writing of what the Speaker already knows (because Mallard’s own words recognising Ross as an Independent is in Hansard), but does not mention it “has distorted, and is likely to continue to distort, the proportionality of political party representation in Parliament as determined at the last general election” or “that at least two-thirds of the parliamentary members of that party agree” (because Ross is expelled and has resigned), will Speaker Mallard then have to instruct Bridges that Winston’s Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill applies here – use it
  So, National has to use the waka-jumping bill because they are told to?
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:01am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    AAHHH but
    Where using the bill will be seen as Hippocracy.
    That will soon be forgotten as expediency.
    also there is a recession coming, a Labour inspired recession…. who cares about “beltway” issues when you can’t pay the mortgage.
    Remember, they are politicians.
    Comes roughly under “Better to ask forgiveness after, than permission before”
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:36am
- thedavincimode
  
  And an archived version for those who don’t want to visit WhaleOil
  
  How extraordinarily considerate of you.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:04am
- thedavincimode
  
  Thoughts?
  
  #I’mbonkers is the post #Metoo teflon.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:07am
- rockape
  
  National need to get rid pof Collins then Slater is dead in the water. His blog is fading away. He used to publish figures regularly for how well the blog was doing. He hasn’t done that for 3 years! Hence the meat sales hat sales all of which will fail as the blogs demise continues.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:47am
Local Miller

Yesterday evening, it sounded like ILG was saying Sroubkek was given PR on his correct passport because he already had PR on his false one. They were just “validating his current residency”.

What a ball of crock. Since his original residency was on a false passport, it was null and void, and any new PR decision should have been taken in light of his history and the current circumstances only. ILG really screwed up that decision.
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November 2, 2018 8:01am
- cmm
  
  I call bullshit on that too.
  
  If that was the case then there would have been no need for all the “read between the lines” subterfuge.
  
  He would need to apply again since his old one would have been null and void (being based on false documents). That would have been an excellent opportunity to rid ourselves of this crim scumbag.
  
  Nope. This is the sort of crap you get when you give important office to a student activist with no experience in the real world.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:06am
  - Local Miller
    
    This is the sort of crap you get when you give important office to a student activist with no experience in the real world. – Good point.
    
    And this is partly why I tend to believe the basis for ILG’s decision. The useless prick made a bad decision, then when the $#!t hit the fan, they realised it wasn’t going to stand up to scrutiny, so they tried to obfuscate with “absolute discretion” and implying his life was at risk. Now everyone has read between the lines and found there’s nothing there. Some of the MSM (believe it or not) also raise a lot of facts that ILG would have had access to, if he had just taken the time to read the reports. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:22am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  RNZ has a very good and complete list of Sroubkek’s Travel and activities.
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/369971/sroubek-returned-to-europe-court-ruling-confirms
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:20am
- hullkiwi
  
  This morning Red Radiointerviewed their go to Immigration Lawyer on the matter, Alistair McClymont on the matter. He was one irritated individual on this matter.
  
  He pointed out:
  1. The Czech will have had permanent residency from 2003, what ILG did was approve an administrative tidy up in the Czech’s real name. So to the CoL trolls, who have been peddling misinformation all week, you guys are as bigger liars as Ardern;
  2. More importantly, ILG was lifting the deportation orders for when the Czech left jail.
  
  So, in effect ILG was giving the Czech a level of protection.
  
  The rest of the interview was almost comical, because the suggestions were:
  1. ILG clearly hadn’t asked for any further information that would be readily available from Immigraion officials;
  2. That ILG had given the Czech more consideration (apparently) that he gives to more deserving migrants cases, which he never gets to see; and
  3. This case exemplifies how Immigration case management has become a tick box exercise.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:30am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    National MP’s have alleged several times both in the House and outside that Lees-Galloway made this decision in just eight minutes. There has been no denial from the Minister.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:43am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Did he pop out for a coffee in there as well?
      
      Eight minutes is 7 minutes and 52 seconds longer than they took to screw Taranaki over and that included the ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so that it did not appear they had made the decision without giving the proposition due thought.
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:33am
- igm
  
  Understand Sleeze-Galloway’s Muslim mates, along with the Green liar, were at the forefront of the “Peace Protest” in PN!
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:42am
  - Woz
    
    Yes, Golly the Wog was there cosying up to all her pals in the regular rent-a-mob get together.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:53am
peterwn

Oh well, The Commerce Commission has released its report about apparent ‘overcharging’ by Auckland Airport. Airport critics claim it is a ‘victory’ but the Airport company does not seem too concerned with it. Indeed the share price has gone up a bit, so the market does not seem too worried.
One effect of this process and the criticisms from airlines is the Airport Company is risk adverse when it comes to investing in new facilities. They are probably using an ‘internal’ rate of return of 15 to 20% when making capex decisions. This favours incremental developments over ‘big bang’ developments such as a new Domestic terminal (the present one was built as a cargo shed to be used as an interim temporary terminal and has grown like topsy ever since).
The losers for the Airport using such a high internal rate of return are the airlines and the customers – both because facilities are continually slightly stretched and slightly under par, and because as long as the facilities are fully utilised the cost of cumulatively inefficient capex decisions are passed on regardless of Commerce Commission thinking.
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November 2, 2018 8:02am
Paulus Gnome

National remove state house from Pt England and we get racist Hone and his collection of malcontents supported by the red team screaming, spitting occupying with chants of hate the whitey boy for taking away aunties free house (to provide accommodation for four families being quietly forgotten)

Tra daaaaaaaaaaaaah blast of trumpets; lying Labour will do the same in Porirua as announced by Ms Concerned Face 2018 and, crickets, a plague of crickets with racist Hone out to lunch . . .

Apologies in advance to the late and great David Jones:

Oh, yeah
Mmm
Still don’t know what I am waitin’ for
And my time is runnin’ out
Thousands of houses promised on streets,
Every time I thought I’d got one made
It seemed the deal was not so sweet
So I turned myself to face me
But it never occurred to me,
How the others must see the faker
I’m much too stupid to take that test
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the truth
Ch-ch-changes
Don’t want to be a respected man
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the voters
Ch-ch-changes
There’s gonna have to be a different man
Time may change me
I can’t deliver squat
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November 2, 2018 8:03am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Housing redevelopment is pushing ahead in Glen Innes.
  The aging 1940s/1950s stock of weatherboard houses on 1/4-acre sections are being demolished and the sites are being amalgamated into huge blocks, ready for the construction of 3-story terrace houses.
  Glen Innes is a good location for workers, with a short drive to Penrose and the industrial areas. It should not be a place for non-workers.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:35am
  - igm
    
    Imagine how many wrecked dungars, drug deals, fights, illegitimate unemployable brats, and leeches these tenements will attract!
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:44am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Glen Innes has been a-blaze with Tongan flags festooning houses and adorning large people-movers for the last month.
      They are like those English families who came to NZ in the 1960s. At what point do they become New Zealanders at heart?
      
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      November 2, 2018 8:54am
      - MrsAnnie
        
        Yes those English New Zealanders who still sit up late at night to watch Royal weddings and never miss Cori St.
        
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        November 2, 2018 9:21am
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Odakyu-sen: At what point do they become New Zealanders at heart ?
        
        The same point that the Chinese and Indians talk all day to each other in English.
        
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        November 2, 2018 9:25am
      - Jack5
        
        Mrs Annie, I’m largely of old pioneer-settler stock, and believe a constitutional monarchy is one of the most stable forms of government, and in NZ’s case extremely cheap, and much more cost effective than a republic.
        
        But some of the most ardent republicans I know are Pommy folk living in NZ.
        
        Of the bullshit side of Royalty, I’ll take the distant mob as easier to ignore than the Auckland glitterati. Those locals would be even more unbearable if NZ were a republic.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:03am
      - waikatosinger
        
        Tonga were playing Australia at Rugby. If I had a Tongan flag I’d be waving it too, and I’m not even Tongan.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:27am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      igm,
      Auckland needs housing for its workers. You know, the people who produce the cashflow that the State siphons off for redistribution.
      
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      November 2, 2018 9:07am
  - alex Masterley
    
    The same is happening in Mt Roskill as well. Not a cheep from the anti types…
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:45am
- KevOB
  
  Had to laugh about Porirua, particularly Cannons Creek. The whole area is a ghetto. Maori , PI’s and lesser preferred neighbours were deliberately placed there and area is out of bounds otherwise.
  The housing stock there is old and in need of refreshing. The community will not welcome KiwiBuild ballotees who are cultural misfits. KiwiBuild “homes” are well out of the income range of the Creek people.
  
  Does the ~~govt~~ COL not have any clues, at all?
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:55am
  - Rich Prick
    
    On the other side of the coin who, on six figures, would want to drive through South Central LA to get to a KiwiBuild house that’s just been robbed for the 8th time in a month?
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:28am
  - Flash
    
    ‘course it does. 2035 is 6 elections away. Plenty of time . . . . . . . . . .
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:01am
  - VicParking
    
    But its going to take 25 years so by then, when it fails and becomes a ghetto, Cindy and COL will be long forgotten even at the UN.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:25am
    - KevOB
      
      It is already a ghetto.
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:04pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Until they rid Porirua and Cannons Creek of the Mongrel Mob and their supporters it will always be a Ghetto as decent people and families won’t go and live their.
    
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    November 2, 2018 2:08pm
  - GoVege
    
    “Lesser preferred neighbours”?
    What til you have an accident and you will soon find out who is most willing to help you.
    P I’s are the future of this country.
    They work hard, encourage their kids’ education and aspire to home ownership.
    The P I women have the sense to limit the number of their children, something they are not permitted to do back n the islands.
    If only more Maori would follow their example instead of a life on the benny pushing out neglected kids destined for prison and gang membership.
    
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    November 2, 2018 2:52pm
dave_c_

Tourism proposing an initiative to help tourists respect our land ….
Would be a better look if a pre-requisite program was rolled out internally, before lecturing to visitors.
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November 2, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Yup, I don’t see many tourists among the people that litter the local park every week end.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:09am
  - GazzaW
    
    I wondered why our supermarket/Maccas joint carpark was covered with broken glass, food containers, half eaten burgers, vomit, urine and the occasional used condom every Saturday and Sunday morning. I should have known that it’s those bloody tourists who are to blame.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:43am
    - igm
      
      What percentage of Murri does one see clearing their mess off tables at McDonalds?
      Like those that respect disabled parking restrictions . . . very few.
      
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      November 2, 2018 8:48am
      - KiWombat
        
        igm, rules are different for murri with regard to handicapped parking. As long as they once knew, know, or are likely to meet a disabled person one day them they qualify to use those spaces.
        
        Problem solved !
        
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        November 2, 2018 9:00am
- VicParking
  
  Was this the advert on TV last night that was all in maori so only 6% would understand it.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:27am
  - sooty
    
    Because no one else would buy the shit they were selling, whatever it was.
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:26pm
BeaB

It’s a bit sad when our tut-tutting, finger-wagging reporters like precious Verity this morning think a very mild comment by Judith Collins is bullying. Tell that to the frightened kid in the playground.
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November 2, 2018 8:05am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  That name – Verity – and the speaking voice. Grate voice. Wrong like socks and sandals. Just wrong.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:30am
  - lifesgood
    
    Why would it be impossible to tell the truth when your name means truth. Yep, wrong. Just wrong.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:50am
  - stigie
    
    Yes Verity whats her name, it stands out like lying Labour MPs that she hates the old stale pale male that got her where she is today !~
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:12am
    - Happychappy
      
      Another whinging pom that thinks she has a opinion that counts.
      
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      November 2, 2018 2:11pm
  - Paulus
    
    Presumably Verity wants to get into the Parliamentary Press Gallery where she can learn all about real sexual encounters.
    
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    November 2, 2018 2:24pm
lastmanstanding

Watched Woodhouse v Sleeze in the House yesterday. You did OK but didn’t ask the Zinger.

Mr Speaker, isn’t the real reason the Minister granted permanent residency because (wotisname) lawyer threatened to reveal his drug dealing clients and this would cause considerable embarrassment to the Government.

If Sleeze answered NO and it turned out to be YES then Sleeze and Cindy are gonnas.

Im waiting for the Police Commissioner to issue the usual statement of denial.
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November 2, 2018 8:05am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Instead of closing this matter down right away, IGL has now kept it in play for the next 3 weeks at least.
  Silly move on his behalf.
  Lots of time for more information about Mr Sroubek/Antolik’s contacts to come to light.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:35am
  - GazzaW
    
    Mark Mitchell will have a grand old time at ILG’s expense. His mates in the NZ Police and at the International Police Assn will have some little gems up their sleeves.
    
    Shrek will be gone before the three weeks are up.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:51am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Quite so. This is manna from political heaven for Mitchell.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:34am
      - GazzaW
        
        I like him KS. He speaks quietly but authoritatively and he has leadership qualities.
        
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        November 2, 2018 12:25pm
Scott

Right now there is a caravan of thousands of migrants from Central America heading north to the United States. The plan appears to be to set foot in the United States and claim asylum because of supposed persecution back in Guatemala and Honduras.

They have been offered asylum in Mexico where presumably they will be safe? But no – only the USA will do.

The reporting on this has been abysmal. Even the embedded fox news reporter has been more like an apologist for the caravan rather than a reporter asking actual questions.
For example who is funding this exercise? How are they being fed? Who organised this trip? Are there criminals amongst the caravan as President Trump has claimed?

Is this all an exercise to embarrass Trump and the administration prior to the midterms? The reporting has been that they will not arrive till after the midterms. But now we see that buses are involved. Who is funding those buses? Will they arrive a day or 2 before the midterms to give maximum impact of border officials clashing with the caravan?

These questions have so far not been answered. Oh for a news network with actual reporters who will ask actual questions to actually inform actual viewers.

I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist but there are so many aspects of this caravan and its timing that are so convenient to the left-wing open borders cause. Is the whole thing being funded by George Soros and his affiliates?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/10/caravan-hopping-the-bus.php
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November 2, 2018 8:06am
- Im Right
  
  “I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist but there are so many aspects of this caravan and its timing that are so convenient to the left-wing open borders cause”….it will have the reverse affect Scott, the Average American voter will not like the idea of thousands of immigrants ‘invading’ the US border and forcing their way into the country, this is actually good for Republicans, some voters may not like Trump and on the fence when voting but not liking the fact that Democrats would allow this caravan (and the next, and the next) into the US disturbs not just the Republican voter but a lot of the soft Democrat voters also.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:37am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I agree. Americans are patriotic and this invasion is an affront to that. Legal Latinos will see it as a threat to their jobs/pay rates. And the message not lost on every one is, if they can rally towards the American borders, why aren’t they back home agitating with their Governments in such an organised way for improved conditions? The answer is, nah, it’s easier to gate-crash the American gig, built and paid for by Americans, and leech off that.
    
    It is a massive back-fire for the Democrats. And yes, I believe the Democrats are encouraging the invasion.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:18am
  - waikatosinger
    
    I was thinking that too, however I understand that this isn’t the first such caravan. There has been one each year for a while now. They have been getting larger and this one is the biggest so far.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  A few days ago we were watching Mike Heggetty? discussing the caravan. Mike Pence has indicated organisation, encouragement of migrants and funding of the caravan is coming from Venezuela. Not cheap to feed and accommodate 7000 people so it will not be an organic movement. The idea is to swamp the USA to destabilize the USA political system because of ‘interference’ of the USA in South American politics. There were reports of further caravans forming with possibly 50000 – 60000. There are now reports some members of the caravan have returned home after hearing of the troops on the boarder.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:39am
  - VicParking
    
    And some are armed and shooting at Mexican cops. Some have be caught with molotov cocktails.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:31am
- Jules99
  
  By international law asylum seekers have to seek asylum at the first border they come to, so they have no legal right to asylum in the US. However there is the humanitarian issue of exhausted people arriving with sick children etc. I imagine Trump has a plan to deal with this. Will be interesting to see how he handles it, but it won’t hurt him. Agree with the others, it’s a Dem own goal.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:50am
- stephieboy
  
  Scott, funded by George Soros?
  
  No!
  
  It’s more plausible that Trump supporters are funding the Caravan!
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:07am
  - VicParking
    
    And your goats are virgins
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:32am
Lee C

The Govt has floated this idea:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12151245
yet another way to use our cash to salve their creaking reputations, or a timely and useful initiative?
Interesting how the Herald makes it look like Habitat for Humanity is a Govt, Initiative…
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November 2, 2018 8:07am
- WaveyDavey
  
  That policy does work pretty well in other countries.
  
  TBH I always wondered why NZ hadn’t got on board with it.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:12am
- cmm
  
  “By having the Government take a stake in their home, the buyer would then have a smaller home loan and reduced mortgage payments. At a later date, they could then buy the home outright.”
  
  Yeah right.
  
  The government does not take any stake. The taxpayer does.
  
  What happens to capital gains? Does the “buyer” get those or the government?
  
  Did they talk to Robbo yet? He had a nasty surprise last week when he found the cookie jar is empty.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:17am
  - tf78
    
    Why don’t they just give them the land on a 50 year lease and let them build their own homes.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:27am
    - Paulus
      
      Because once they are there a lease will mean Diddly Squat as we see in State Housing – my Nana lived there for 50 years so it is my right……..
      
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      November 2, 2018 2:27pm
- Local Miller
  
  I love the line: Lobby group Community Housing Aotearoa recently estimated as many as 200,000 Kiwi families – including 90,000 in Auckland – would struggle to afford a KiwiBuild home.
  
  The implication is that there are 200,000 families trying to buy homes but can’t afford them. Where I suspect the reality is this is a pure statistic that has nothing to do with those actually not owning or renting.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:35am
- All_on_Red
  
  The Shared Equity Scheme is not a new scheme.
  HNZ has been doing it for a couple of years in conjunction with local Affordable Housing Charitable Trusts…
  It does work.
  The difference is the Trusts choose the owners. There is no ballot.
  You put in your expression of interest and then go through a process to be selected.
  The Trusts ensure that the people chosen are ones who actually need the help,ie low income and also we try to pick people who are actually doing work in the Community.
  The Govt claiming this as a new initiative is bullshit.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:00am
Longknives

If you have the stomach for it- Check out Golriz’s speech to the feral unwashed ‘Rent a Mob’ Protesters outside the Defence Industry Forum (It’s on her Facebook Page)
Apparently she has seen the ‘Brutality of War’ etc etc blah blah and we Kiwis just don’t understand blah blah
She tells so many porkies this lady I’m honestly amazed her nose hasn’t grown!
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November 2, 2018 8:08am
- LTA1955
  
  The wonders of maxillofacial surgery & makeup can hide most disfigurations, it’s the cranial deficiencies between her ears. The issue is in the tissue
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:46am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    When you look at Golly G it is fairly obvious that she does have a very, very small head.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:01am
- VicParking
  
  I think the COL should send Golriz back to Iran on a fact/truth finding mission.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:35am
Woz

OK, it’s last week’s news, but something’s bothering me. The heartwarming picture in Toothy’s pool room – was it REALLY drawn by a little kid, or by an adult trying to draw like a kid draws? Look really carefully.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12149999
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November 2, 2018 8:08am
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Yet another PR stunt from Labour HQ!
  No way in hell a kid drew that..
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:11am
  - Longknives
    
    It’s about as legit as those kids who burst into song when she walked past them at the Airport!
    *Totally ‘impromptu’ according to the Labour Spin Team..
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:13am
  - VicParking
    
    Shes even taken to announcing major policy, even that not related to education, at schools so she doesn’t stand out as the dummest in the room and gets songs of praise sung to boost her ego.
    I also think she knows kids are to well behaved to call her out on her lies.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:32am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Looks like it was drawn by at least two people. An adult drew the mountains, sun and main “flower” Kids drew the houses, swing and blobs on the right and may have coloured in the brown stem, leaves and petals. The main flower is too stylised as are the mountains and the flowy blue lines. Amateurs.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:53pm
- cmm
  
  They say it is one of the youngest, so not necessarily a kid.
  
  Maybe a 25 year old medical student?
  
  But I agree. Maybe a kid drew the swing set or coloured in. It really does look contrived, especially with the stylised mountains etc.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:32am
  - VicParking
    
    Look at the way the flower and sun is drawn. The person who did this has had training.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:34am
- RF
  
  That drawing has not been done by a child. The detail is too great and it’s clearly done by a steady adult hand.
  
  Do they think we are stupid…..
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:57am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    They know we are. They depend on our stupidity to retain power.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:04am
- Northland Wahine
  
  It was really drawn by Helen Clarke.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:06am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    No, but if you look closely, you’ll find Helen Clark has signed another artist’s work and passed it off as her own 😀
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:36am
holysheet

The seven dwarfs always left early each morning to go to work in the Pike River coal mine. As always, Snow White stayed home doing her domestic chores. As lunchtime approached, she would prepare their lunches and take them to the mine. One day as she arrived at the mine with the lunches, she saw that there had been a terrible explosion. Tearfully, and fearing the worst, Snow White began calling out, hoping against hope that the dwarfs had somehow survived. “Hello. Hello!” she shouted. “Can anyone hear me? Hello!” For a long while, there was no answer. Losing hope, Snow White again shouted, “Hello! is anyone in there?” Just as she was about to give up all hope, she heard a faint voice from deep within the mine, “Vote For Winston!” Snow White fell to her knees and prayed, Oh, thank you, God! At least Dopey is still alive!
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November 2, 2018 8:12am
- VicParking
  
  Winston could have arrived before her and was the first one to enter the mine on the rescue mission.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:36am
  - G152
    
    No doubt as we write he is there, in the rig of the day, breathing in the coal gas with gusto and ready to go.
    Or somewhere up north, cigarette and whiskey at hand relating his days of tales in the Green Parrot
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:53am
secondcumming

“She’s a hard road finding the perfect woman, boy”

Although after watching *The Bolt Report* on SkyNews Australia last night, I think Ive discovered the formula.

It would be one with the intelligence, world view, and political nous of *One Nation’s Pauline Hanson*………coupled with the model good looks and child-like bearing of our very own Prime Minister, Jacinda Adhern.

Now that would be my sort of gal 😛
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November 2, 2018 8:12am
- wiseowl
  
  Secondcumming . At least Pauline did 10 years in that fish and chip shop and had two young kids in the mix.
  Hope you caught Credlin earlier.Her opening was great.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:50am
- Zapper
  
  I seriously don’t understand why people think Ardern is attractive? Is it compared to Helen Clark?
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:03pm
oldpark

Heard an overblown butter-ball from the Misandrist Far left Lunatic Green Party who gets circa $160,000 dollars a year plus perks for sitting on her fat arse helping to destroy NZs economy and way of life. Her boast her gang of misfits had banned residential letting fees. Completely ignoring the fact that any Property Owner or Landlord,who was silly enough to stay as a whipping boy for the temerity of providing a roof over tenants heads would suck it up. Knowing that the banned letting fees was just the beginning of a smogasboard of political punitive attacks in the very near future on hapless Landlords.Who the fugh would be a Landlord.
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November 2, 2018 8:13am
- holysheet
  
  I guess we can look forward to liabours new housing policy. Forget “Kiwibuild”
  It’s now “Kiwibongo” or “Kiwibomb”
  Watch the rents go up to compensate for this decision
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:32am
- VicParking
  
  Don’t forget the ability of Salt and the mind of Lucy
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:37am
- gump
  
  Letting fees actually a disadvantage for landlords.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:44am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Why?
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:03am
    - gump
      
      Letting fees have the effect of decreasing the pool of potential tenants. Which is a disadvantage for landlords – particularly in areas with lower demand for rentals.
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:18am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Where’s your evidence of that?
        You’re just making shit up.
        
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        November 2, 2018 10:25am
      - labrator
        
        I agree with Gump that letting fees have the effect of decreasing the pool of potential tenants but disagree with his conclusion. That’s the point, you’re discriminating against those that have trouble paying for things. A bit like those companies that offer “no deposit now”, they’re doing the opposite, trying to attract people that can’t pay for things knowing full well they can sell the debt onto a private company without, potentially, every delivering the product.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:37am
- G152
  
  Watch suddenly other fees become a requirement.
  Key money. Inspection fees (monthly) and so on
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:55am
  - KevOB
    
    The market will not be mocked. If services for tenants are required: tenants will pay.
    
    Ignorance is about to re-visit history (again).
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:10am
  - gump
    
    Key money and inspection fees cannot be charged to tenants. They have been prohibited by the Residential Tenancies Act for over thirty years.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:19am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      No….they will just be folded into that thing called
      RENT…increased RENT.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:41am
    - KevOB
      
      Be that as it may rents will be adjusted to meet needs. I like the idea of monthly inspection charges.
      
      Invent a new rule then watch a lawyer show you a work around.
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:06pm
Happychappy

How can Jacinda and Winston have any creditabilty after their comments on this lying drug dealing scumbag after all the evidence so far points to the Minister and his two Leaders not doing due diligence on the offender and his past before smacking him with a wet bus ticket and telling him he is allowed to stay. There is a lot more to come from this story as it doesn’t smell right and to let tbe Minister himself run a enquiry into Immigration tells you they have more to cover up in and about this story.
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November 2, 2018 8:17am
- VicParking
  
  I’d respond to your post but I’m currently having a review of it so I can’t comment till its completed. Sometime late next year as I still have the camp enquiry to read.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:40am
Chuck Bird

Ministry of Justice chief executive Andrew Bridgman said, “It is sad to see the loss of an excellent legal mind who made an invaluable contribution to New Zealand”. It never ceases to amaze me how the “brilliant” dudes lack common sense. Peter Ellis is innocent.

Former chief justice Sir Thomas Eichelbaum has died

In 2001, he conducted a ministerial inquiry reviewing children’s evidence in the controversial Peter Ellis case.

His report, which has been widely criticised, upheld the guilty verdicts and stands in contrast to an earlier report by retired High Court judge, Sir Thomas Thorp.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12152815
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November 2, 2018 8:19am
- Paulus
  
  I think you will find that the Eichelbaum Report was not actually written by him but by one of his senior left wing ladies.
  I have all the details but cannot be bothered.
  He was unwell at the time. A good man.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:32am
  - VicParking
    
    Agreed. Have heard the same.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:42am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

Salaam Kiwibloggers.

May the blessings of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate, be upon you.
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November 2, 2018 8:20am
- alloytoo
  
  May FSM touch you with his noodly appendage.
  
  Ramen
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:29am
- VicParking
  
  So say all the maids beheaded in Saudi Arabia
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:44am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Family from Saudi Arabia in NY ask USA for asylum. Subsequently, the two sisters bodies retrieved from the Hudson River, taped together face to face.
    
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/saudi-arabian-sisters-found-dead-duct-taped-together-in-new-yorks-hudson-river-750159/
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:00am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  Asia Bibi, whose conviction and death sentence for a false charge of blasphemy have just been overturned by a court after more than 7 years in a Pakistani jail, including solitary confinement, will be relieved to hear of Allah’s mercy. It’s a pity some of Allah’s fanboys, who have murdered two public officials for supporting Bibi and threatened the three judges, Bibi and her family with murder, don’t seem to have got the message.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:14am
- KevOB
  
  Compassion will be shown when the throwing off buildings height is limited to 1.5 meters with a 150 mm thick shock absorber pad to relieve the convicted criminal involved.
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:09pm
Hugh Pavletich

Sydney property prices plunge towards -10% – MacroBusiness Australia (behind paywall)

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/sydney-property-prices-plunge-towards-10/
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Sydney house prices see biggest fall for 30 years, dragging rest of Australia down | Australia news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/01/sydney-house-prices-fall-at-fastest-rate-in-30-years-dragging-rest-of-australia-down
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Australia’s housing slump enters year two – Bloomberg

https://www.fxstreet.com/news/australias-housing-slump-enters-year-two-bloomberg-201811010121
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Australian house prices drop 3.5pc, heading for ‘deepest downturn in modern history’ – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/property-values-drop-3.5pc-sharpest-decline/10454166
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November 2, 2018 8:21am
- VicParking
  
  Teach you to buy there last year.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:44am
- KevOB
  
  Coming to haunt a COL near you.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:12am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Vic Parking … Be assured, we are not immune from Australian trends in this country …
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    Realestate.co.nz says the Auckland market is now favouring buyers for the first time since 2011- QV says average values falling | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/96645/realestateconz-says-auckland-market-now-favouring-buyers-first-time-2011-qv-says
    
    It’s a buyer’s market in Auckland for the start of summer, with the number of homes for sale up strongly and average asking prices and property values down.
    
    The October figures from Realestate.co.nz show that the number of Auckland homes newly listed for sale on the website in October was up a whopping 20.1% compared to October last year, while the total number of homes available for sale in the region at the end of October was up 17% compared to a year earlier.
    
    However, the average asking price of Auckland homes listed for sale in October was down 1.3% compared to September. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    ANZ’s latest Business Outlook Survey shows shows sharp drop in intentions to construct in both residential and commercial sectors; ANZ Chief Economist says next official interest rate move is more likely to be a cut than a hike | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/business/96642/anzs-latest-business-outlook-survey-shows-confidence-has-steadied-remains-low-levels
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    Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator
    
    Tightening bank lending is leading to a property crunch in Australia and it could also happen here, a housing commentator says.
    
    Christchurch-based Hugh Pavletich of the housing thinktank Demographia says reports of Sydney and Melbourne houses losing $1000 a week are a result of rising interest rates and the Australian banking inquiry, making banks ultra-cautious.
    
    Pavletich said that in Australia, the housing bubble was bursting. “The days of high multiple-lending are over”. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:26am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      NEW ZEALAND: ANZ-Roy Morgan NZ Consumer Confidence
      
      Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/arderns-kiwibuild-affordable-housing-program-failure/#comment-3217336 (behind payeall)
      
      NEW ZEALAND: ANZ-Roy Morgan NZ Consumer Confidence
      
      A review of things you need to know before you go home on Friday: no rate changes, consumer confidence turns down, RBNZ restructures; KPG pays 4.06%, swap rates rise again, the NZD is up strongly, & more | interest.co.nz
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/news/96691/review-things-you-need-know-you-go-home-friday-no-rate-changes-consumer-confidence-turns
      
      …extract …
      
      … IT’S PERSONAL NOW
      It is not juist businesses who are turning pessimistic. Business confidence is a leading indicator; consumer confidence is a lagging indicator. And today’s ANZ-Roy Morgan consumer confidence survey shows that the lag is catching up. October consumer confidence slipped -3 points to below-average levels. Perceptions of current conditions remain very strong, but the future conditions index is at its lowest level since late 2015. The pessimism about the future has spread from being about the broader economy to about one’s own future financial position. But households nonetheless still think it’s a good time to buy a major household item.
      
      https://www.anz.co.nz/resources/d/a/da3baf2d-d24d-4b01-92b6-99b3d411cf48/ANZ-ConsumerConfidence-20181102.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
      
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      November 2, 2018 7:57pm
oldpark

Wonder will the drug runner and illegal immigrant into NZ named Karel Sroubek be offered amnesty by National, if he reveals the names of the politicians he allegedly supplied with drugs before he was apprehended by NZs Police,or better still will the alleged Politicians do the job for him.We all live in hope.
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November 2, 2018 8:28am
- holysheet
  
  If we follow the silly little girls advice and read “between the lines” Police commissioner Bush can go and get fucked. Telling us to lay off Jethro earlier on this year after rumors were swirling over his penchants for gear, might be closer to the truth than we all think.
  If the Silly little girl tells us to read between the lines, she wouldn’t lie to us would she?
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:41am
  - sooty
    
    Where is Jethro?
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:41pm
- gump
  
  Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
  
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  November 2, 2018 8:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    That’s the trouble about being told to read between the lines.
    
    We had figured out that IGL was incompetent, but our PM assured us that her Minister had done due diligence, so of course other factors need to be considered.
    
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    November 2, 2018 8:55am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    I agree, but IGL is incompetent is an interesting line to be running given your political leanings.
    
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    November 2, 2018 9:15am
    - gump
      
      My political leanings? You think that because I criticise National that I must be a Labour supporter?
      
      I voted for Act at the last election.
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:22am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        So you support
        3 strikes law
        Charter schools
        2 of ACT’s landmark successes, that labour are looking to get rid of and NATIONAL supported into law.
        If you are an ACT Supporter, you are a very bad one.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:45am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        my bad, had you confused with someone else.
        
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        November 2, 2018 2:18pm
Mandel

I know Kiwiblog will have a Jewish or affiliate readership cohort.

I understand there is a lot of evaluation as to how the horrendous murder and desecration could have occurred. A lot of focus has been on what might have motivated the individual. Most speculation has simply centred on brute, primitive, vulgar anti-semitism.

I want to assist Kiwiblog members to understand some of the foundations of the growing antagonism between Americans and Jews.

Exhibit A: Michelle Goldberg writing in the New York Times ‘We Can Replace Them’.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

Goldberg could have written anything. She chose to write an article whereby she states that the overriding goal of Jews in the United States is to replace white Americans with Hispanics, muslims and to a lesser extent, African Americans.

Goldberg could have written a different article. Here are the many contributions of Jews to American life. Here is why we are American. What occurred was a tragedy. Let’s heal together. Instead? She wrote a lead opinion editorial stating that the Jews in the United States seek soft genocide of Americans against the will of those Americans.

What are the thoughts of an educated reader, reading such a piece? They are simple – no, Jews will not replace Americans. Jews will be replaced. You will not replace us. We will replace you.

Goldberg regards it as axiomatic that being a European American is intrinsically illegitimate, immoral, and evil. She believes that European Americans have no right to exist in the United States.

She says white people are afraid of non-white rule in the United States. Well, one reason that might be the case is because Jews like Michelle Goldberg regularly say that whites, in essence, need to be annihilated. Replaced.

So it is now an unspoken but open conflict. Will Jews be able to replace whites in the United States? Who make the United States what it is? Or will white be able to resist Jewish cultural and national terrorism and replace Jews first?

So that’s one example. Goldberg could have written anything. Everyone is repulsed by the violence. Even the barest modicum of conciliation would engender goodwill. Instead – we, the Jews, will replace anyone who resists our agenda to end the United States of America and turn it into Mexico.

Okay? So that’s one aspect for what is going to be ever increasing hostility from Europeans towards Jews in the United States.

And if you’re honest – what other choice do US whites have? The SJW Jewish left has shown time and again they truly wish to annihilate them. For national survival, Europeans are in the United States are going to have to defend themselves against the Jewish agenda to annihilate them. It’s overt. It’s public. There is no doubt. Immigration in the US is a weapon, being wielded by Jews against people who just want to have a right to exist in their own country.

So I predict that you will see more Irgun like activities from whites in the United States struggling for survival against Jewish hatred and supremacy. It wasn’t regarded as terrorism when Irgun were murdering Europeans in Israel. There needs to be some recognition that if you state your political agenda is the annihilation of a sovereign nation there is possibly going to be some consternation and resistance yes?

That’s one aspect.
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November 2, 2018 8:29am
Maggy Wassilieff

When our Natural Gas runs out, it won’t be worth our while looking for biofuel substitutes.

http://notrickszone.com/2018/11/01/paradigm-shift-the-belief-that-bioenergy-is-climate-friendly-is-now-recognized-as-a-major-error/
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November 2, 2018 8:45am
- KevOB
  
  Has the NAS recanted?
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:14am
- stephieboy
  
  MW, Another Sleazy Photoshop from” No Tricks Zone” Pierre Gosselin
  
  https://davidappell.blogspot.com/2017/01/another-sleazy-photoshop-from-pierre.html
  
  Another crackpot climate change denier exposed!
  
  Carry on…
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:48am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I’m not sure that retardboy realises his own goal.
    Read the text which is highlighted….
    Hansen is saying the GW theory falls down as observed Temps dropped .5C in the Northern Hemisphere between 1940-1970.
    
    Nice find Stephie!
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:12am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @stephieboy
    Can you read?
    
    The Post is by Kenneth Richard
    Paradigm Shift? The ‘Belief’ That Bioenergy Is Climate-Friendly Is Now Recognized As A ‘Major Error’
    By Kenneth Richard
    http://notrickszone.com/2018/11/01/paradigm-shift-the-belief-that-bioenergy-is-climate-friendly-is-now-recognized-as-a-major-error/
    
    Kenneth Richard has posted up the abstracts of 5 Scientific Papers published this year that demonstrate the unsustainable nature of bioenergy projects.
    
    You do realise that the Host of a website is not always the same person as those posting up articles on the website?
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:53am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, yes I can!
      
      MW, Who is Kenneth Richard?
      
      Kenneth Richard
      
      “..The article was written by Kenneth Richard, who posts an article every 3–4 days or so. Just by looking at the headlines, we can see that each one “teaches” one of about 200 popular myths (compare the headlines with the myth list on SkepticalScience). Who is Kenneth Richard? I haven’t been able to figure that out, and he is not among the hundreds of names in DeSmogBlog’s disinformation database. He started publishing at NoTricksZone on August 11, 2016. He didn’t introduce himself on the site, but simply dived right in with a highly misleading headline claiming “35 New Scientific Publications Confirm Ocean Cycles, Sun Are Main Climate Drivers”.
      
      The Washington Connection
      
      Of course, an anti-science argument is useless if no one reads it. While NoTricksZone has a sizeable audience, the article got a search-engine boost when it was reposted by ClimateDepot. ClimateDepot is “a project of CFACT”, a political Washington, D.C. organization that originally advocated free-market solutions to environmental issues, but now mainly promotes climate change denial. Their promotion makes it reach Google’s first page:
      
      Naturally, James Delingpole of Brietbart also used Kenneth Richard’s post as the basis to claim that “Lying Alarmists Rebranded 70s Global Cooling Scare as a Myth.” When asked how long he spent researching the piece, he boasted proudly that he’d done as little research as possible….”
      
      https://medium.com/@qwertie/1970s-agw-consensus-3123a34e5105
      
      Sad!
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:15am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Who is Kenneth Richard? I haven’t been able to figure that out,
        
        Priceless!!!!!
        Thanks for the laugh, Stephieboy.
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:37am
      - KevOB
        
        You should, if you are able, read some real science advice. First, the collected writings and videos of Richard Feynmann.
        
        Don’t you know there are highly qualified recognised scientists who have predicted that a prolonged cooling has commenced?
        Also that the IPCC itself in its TAR plainly stated they were dealing with a chaotic system and no predictions by them were possible. The maths is impossibly difficult and can yield very peculiar results. As a result the models all produce something agreeable to the modellers.
        
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        November 2, 2018 12:26pm
- mandk
  
  I have always struggled to understand why biofuels are supposed to be environmentally preferable to fuels that need to be mined or drilled-for.
  
  Surely the chemistry and physics are the same, whether you burn a biofuel or whether you burn petroleum.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:16am
  - stephieboy
    
    Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Emissions and Global Warming. … So, plants are able to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and thus decrease global warming. Biofuels, when grown from plants, can thus offset their CO2 admissions because they take up the gas during growth that is produced when the fuel is burned.
    Biofuels – Advantages of Biofuels – Greenhouse Gas Emissions
    biofuel.org.uk/greenhouse-gas-emissions.htm
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:33am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Dick
      When, as they found out in the US, Biofuels were encouraged, it link the price of FOOD to the price of FUEL.
      This saw a MASSIVE increase in the price of food.
      and
      Because Obama attacked the fossil fuel industry, the supply did not keep up with demand, so caused a disproportionate rise in food prices due to fuel prices.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:50am
  - KevOB
    
    Yes. The all inclusive conversion costs may be higher too. The CO2 required may be greater than the savings.
    
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    November 2, 2018 12:34pm
Odakyu-sen

In the local Eastern Courier here in Auckland there was an article about how Mt. Wellington will be “pedestrianized” (car less).
The article spoke about the cultural significance to the new co-owners (iwi corporation and Auckland Council?). It didn’t mention that the people of Mt. Wellington will no longer be able to drive up to the summit with their fish and chips (which is a local custom that apparently doesn’t count any more).
Like Mt. Eden, a lot of expensive vehicle-controlling electronic infrastructure will be installed at Mt. Wellington. I suspect the rate-payers of Auckland will be footing the bill.
Is it moral for the taxes of the masses to be funding the wishes of a very small racial minority?
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November 2, 2018 8:49am
- stephieboy
  
  Odakyu Sen, as I live close by Mt Eden and often walk up to the summit.t I’m not aware of electronic controls and surveillance. Most enjoy the experience including Tourists who don’t have to walk far to get there. Also many enjoying their fish n chips up there.
  
  I believe there is an electric golf cart type vehicle to ferry up the disabled!
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:55am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I have seen the keypad at Mt. Eden where the code to disarm the vehicle barrier is entered. It’s a pretty expensive system, which would require ongoing servicing. (A nice contract, if you can get it.)
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:40am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Security gates at end of car park are closed off each evening.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/65760473/twohour-struggle-to-get-off-mt-eden
    
    Keypad security for driving up to the summit installed in 2016
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/75952874/work-already-underway-to-block-mt-edens-summit-road-to-cars-before-ban-in-place
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, cars are no longer permitted on the summit so that is no more an issue as it was back and before 2015!
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:36am
- Inandout
  
  Speaking of Mt Wellington I had a friend who lived by a creek on the Highway to Sylvia Park. The last time I caught sight of the house it was literally a fenced off pig sty.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:28am
dime

This is a great podcast:

https://youtu.be/AZZNvT1vaJg

Joe Rogan Podcast with 2 academics who cracked the shits and started writing bullshit, made up, ultra left-wing research papers. They did one on fat bodybuilding etc. They got published by all sorts of prominent journals…

It really is fucked up what’s going on at universities. worth a listen.

Some info on who they are:

Peter Boghossian is a philosophy instructor, activist, author, speaker, and atheism advocate. He is a full-time faculty member at Portland State University. James Lindsay has a Ph.D. in mathematics and a background in physics and is also the author of three books.
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November 2, 2018 9:04am
RF

I just heard that the Christchurch Newstalk ZB host had arranged to interview Ardern on air this morning. He had advised her staff of the topics up for discussion that included the druggie and her comments in support of him staying, reading between the lines etc…

Guess what….. interview cancelled……

You can run but you cannot hide. Maybe she is hiding behind a pillar.
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November 2, 2018 9:10am
- Jules99
  
  Hillary Clinton’s staff were informed of the questions ahead of time too – what is it about these lefties who can’t think on their feet? Surely you just tell the truth?
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:57am
  - holysheet
    
    It’s the same old story. They tell so many lies, that if by chance the truth just happens to slip out, they have forgotten what the truth actually is.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:41am
Poppa

Hey Ian, Cindy & Dwarf

When are you going to admit that you fucked up on the drug running criminal? I think it is time to do that.

Just run him out of town with a bit of cash & he won’t send a copy of his black book to the media, so all will be well. I am sure you can trust him, after all you have believed him so far.
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November 2, 2018 9:11am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  When the top blows off this one (and it will), it will be like Krakatoa.
  I hope the Nats are ready for an election.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:15am
dime

so we have thousands of fighting age men, plenty of them armed, heading to the US to invade it…

pretty sure the correct move is to mow them down until the survivor’s retreat.

yet the leftists want to just “let them in”

how miserable are these people? the really want to see the world burn. its fucking odd.
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November 2, 2018 9:13am
- stephieboy
  
  dime, more deep and profound postings from you.
  
  Sigh!
  
  http://lopezmedia.net/blog/10/11/2017
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:39am
  - dime
    
    another leftist who would let the west be destroyed *sigh*
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:02am
  - dime
    
    were the Vikings who invaded England just peaceful refugees? they wanted a new life and nice land..
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:03am
    - stephieboy
      
      dime, like the Anglo Saxons and Romans before them and Normans after the Vikings?
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:06am
      - dime
        
        exactly! invading armies!
        
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        November 2, 2018 10:20am
      - gump
        
        @dime
        
        What have the Romans ever done for us?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ
        
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        November 2, 2018 10:25am
      - Inandout
        
        Sigh!
        
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        November 2, 2018 10:30am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      they wanted a new life
      
      Not where my lot come from
      Vikings just came to rape, massacre and steal.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs_of_Iona
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:19am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, a bit simplistic! I would think. The reasons would be no different to the Angles, Jutes, Saxons and Friesians.
        
        Nor the Romans for that matter!
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:38am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        MW, a bit simplistic!
        
        Have you been to Iona?
        Have you been to the Bay of Martyrs?
        
        Do you know any history of the Western Isles?
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:41am
      - dime
        
        “Vikings just came to rape, massacre and steal.”
        
        vikings settled in the UK. they did deals to secure land.
        
        http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/viking/settle.html
        
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        November 2, 2018 12:06pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Dime
        
        yep, I know Vikings settled on some parts of the UK.
        
        They didn’t on Iona.
        
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        November 2, 2018 12:29pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        English are generally about 5-15% viking. https://blogs.ancestry.co.uk/cm/are-you-part-viking/
        And if you are from scotland there are a few clans like the Macleods (son of Leod or Ljótr in old Norse) who trace their founding back to vikings.
        
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        November 2, 2018 2:40pm
- Rich Prick
  
  They have to burn it down before they can rebuild it in the image of Venezuela.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:42am
- MCos
  
  Don’t worry Dime.
  After the election next week nobody will be talking about it.
  Same happened at the time of the last mid term election. Then it was the threat of Ebola and how it was going to devastate half of America blah blah blah.
  Once the elections had passed and the scare stories had served their purpose the threat disappeared.
  In two years time there will be some new migrant related shock horror event to threaten the greatest country in the world.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:20am
- Komata
  
  dime:
  
  It’s all about ‘votes’ (and ther destruction of thr USA; ther one country that si stadning in the path of the one-worlders.
  
  BTW: The UN has now joined in, demanding that the USA allow the invasion to occur…
  
  Unfortunately, they’ve chosen a fight with the wrong man.
  
  It could be fun times times at the border.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:44am
Mandel

Links are spammed now.

I was trying to understand a bit more about what’s going on in the US.

Michelle Goldberg wrote an article after Pittsburgh called ‘We can replace them’ in the New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

It’s not a reference to ‘white nationalists’ (as in people who adopt a much less virulent form of nationalism then Israelis). She refers to the white male Republican candidate in Georgia and all of his voters. They are the people the Jews in the United States want to replace.

What’s so strange is that Goldberg propounds the annihilation of essentially every white American from the United States. But she has no self-perception about why people would modify their behaviour in the face of such a vicious and surreal promise.

It doesn’t excuse murder and sacrilege. However the conflict is only going to increase. It will not be due to primitive, brute, vulgar anti-semitism. It will be due to people seeing a small group of people trying to annihilate them, and resisting their annihilation.

Can Jews not understand that an animating proposition to destroy people who have given you everything, power, their sons’ blood to defend Israel, trillions of dollars, and their entire culture and way of life and existence is going to cause consternation and anger? Which is justified? Imagine if white Christians in Israel said to the Jewish people in Israel – we are going to replace you, and then poured all their energy into bringing in millions of say, South Africans and Russians into Israel that the Jews have to pay for?

It’s hard to read an article like Goldberg’s and not feel a streak of ‘no, the Jews will not replace us, we will replace you, instead’.

She could have written anything. A simple tribute to the victims of the murder, a traverse of all the manifold contributions of Jews to American life, and a request for friendship to end violence would have been unimpeachable.

Instead, she wrote an article saying Jews will work tirelessly in the United States to annihilate the national cohesion of the posterity of the United States constitution.

So if people are wondering if the hostility is random – no it isn’t. Unfortunately I suspect this is only the beginning. People don’t generally simply accede to being destroyed against their will when they are the sole reason a state functions. What was always an unspoken truth is now in the open – the United States is in a race. Who can replace who? Will the Jews replace the posterity of the constitution? Or will those people be able to defend themselves first?
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November 2, 2018 9:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Mandel, how would you define White Nationalism as distinct from the bunk written in e.g Daily Stormer or other alt right rags?
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:38am
  - Mandel
    
    I only talk to people with a high enough IQ to actually contribute.
    
    Are you really that moronic? I linked to an article in the New York Times. Michelle Goldberg, as far as I know, isn’t a contributor to the Daily Stormer.
    
    How can you be that stupid? How? I can’t understand it.
    
    I don’t need to define white nationalism – Michelle Goldberg and Eric Kaufmann and many clever Jews have done it for me already.
    
    White nationalism means voting Republican in Georgia. That’s what it means. White nationalism just means adopting any of the behaviour or attitudes that Jews practice with respect to themselves, but being white, not jewish.
    
    Michelle Goldberg and the New York Times are very very very smart. So they must be right. I won’t quibble with their formulation. It has the virtue of being very clear.
    
    But at least Jews contribute to the economy even as they destroy everything else. Muslims just destroy everything wholesale, don’t they Stephieboy.
    
    Anyway. There it is.
    
    ‘We can (and will, and have, by and large) replace them’.
    
    Oh and read the GlobeandMail article below.
    
    Anti-semitism is placed on a spectrum right alongside ‘Islamophobia, and Transphobia’.
    
    It’s anti-semitism if you object to having your child mutilated behind your back subject to Jewish non-parental consent regulations, or to have her raped to death by muslims who are in your community because of Jewish organization like ‘HIAS’ tikkuning the Olam and ‘helping the stranger’ at your expense.
    
    All it’s going to take for things to really warm up is going to be some Jewish supremacist fanatic – and most of the young men are like this – to go and kill a bunch of gentiles.
    
    In this day and age – they will get caught.
    
    What happens then? Who can say.
    
    What’s so hilarious is how moderate and liberal people like Trump and Bolsonaro are. What comes next?
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:49am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Can Jews not understand that an animating proposition to destroy people who have given you everything, power, their sons’ blood to defend Israel, trillions of dollars, and their entire culture and way of life and existence is going to cause consternation and anger?
  
  But I thought “anti semitism” is a disease rather than a specific reaction to Jewish behaviour?
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:38am
RF

Now that the convicted drug smuggler looks to be going home against his wishes he might just feel justified to open his clients register and drop names.

This no doubt will result in his clients running for cover.

I guess if I was a client I would quietly disappear until it all blows over.

Just saying….
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November 2, 2018 9:31am
- Rich Prick
  
  I bet they are all laying low and out of the lime-light at the moment. Quietly shitting themselves.
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:45am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    As long as they are not arranging for a hit on Antolik/Sroubek in Prison.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:12am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Now that’s an interesting point. Perhaps he should be deported for his own safety.
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:30am
- holysheet
  
  Jethro can read between the lines?
  Whoda tort……
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:44am
  - Inandout
    
    Or weed between the vines.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:50am
- VicParking
  
  See you when you get back…
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:47am
Notsofast

Mark Lundy should never have been convicted, this is a discussion about lawyers’ education and how dangerous it is to elevate them to being judges without the required life skills.

In the first trial, the judge Tony Ellis had a BA majoring in mathematics.

Later the appeal court wrote

“The Crown accepted at trial that if it was impossible for Mr Lundy to have driven the distance from Petone to Palmerston North and back, and committed the murders, in the period of just short of three hours said to have been available to him, he should be acquitted.”

And then

“The distance between the Lundy home in Palmerston North and the motel in Petone was measured at between 147 and 150km depending on the exact route. To drive that distance in 75 minutes involves an average speed of about 120kpm. The jury were, in our view, entitled to conclude that this was by no means an impossibility, particularly bearing in mind the circumstances in which the journey took place.”

Do you see the problem here, this is mathematically impossible, so the appeal would have been allowed if Andrew Tipping j had a maths degree like the trial judge, who was compelled to accept the jury verdict.
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November 2, 2018 9:45am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh for F**k’s sake.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:18am
- All_on_Red
  
  Half of three hours is 90 minutes not 75
  So 100kmph average required.
  In the early hours with no traffic that’s easy.
  Actually so is 120
  A couple of months ago I left Auckland for Napier at midnight.(sick friend)
  Cruising at 140+ was easy in many places.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:18am
  - Notsofast
    
    It is accepted that this drive was impossible as it started early evening from Palmerston North. The first theory was abandoned because the police finally accepted that Tipping j made a glaringly false statement.
    There is a harmonic mean in driving average speeds. 120 is mathematically impossible on the route, with built up areas, 5 sets of traffic lights. This is easily demonstrated. It is one of the features of the case that is ignored by Wellington vested interests to not disturb the jury verdict.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:33am
  - holysheet
    
    Back in the day I left Bay view, Napier at 6 pm. Walked in the door at Te Kowhai west of Hamilton at 8.30. Those HB hills were a breeze to travel up. So yes high speeds can be done if there is no traffic.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:50am
    - Notsofast
      
      This was 7 to 8 pm through the old route, there is no point arguing it’s possible because it is now universally agreed it’s not, and reinforced by the police changing the theory to early morning.
      The point remains in my lead post, the court said acquit on what is now accepted to be the truth. Jesus wept, it’s plain as a pike staff and glossing over it would not be acceptable in any other comparable professional field except almighty revered judging.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:29am
    - Swifty
      
      When I lived in Tokomaru 30 years ago – I’d do the run from my parents place in Khandallah to Tokomaru (15 mins shy of Palmy) in 90 mins every time and that was in a standard 1300cc Ford Escort.
      
      And remembering that it is 15 mins from Khandallah to Petone.
      
      Khandallah, turning off on to SHWY 57 just before Levin, then through Shannon to Tokomaru.
      
      Piece of piss.
      
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      November 2, 2018 1:08pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        How about:
        Rotorua to Upper Hutt, 3hrs 45 mins.
        Taupo to Napier, 1hr. 08 mins.
        Wellington to Auckland, 5hs 55 mins.
        When the cars were not as good, the roads were even more crap, but the cops were not as numerous.
        
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        November 2, 2018 8:39pm
- Longknives
  
  Do you have any other interests or hobbies Notsofast? Something else might be good for you…
  Might I suggest Trainspotting, Ornithology or maybe Liquid Embroidery??
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:54am
  - Notsofast
    
    I am trying to get info out there on this case.
    I sometimes post on other matters but it’s not really my political style this board, not a lot of finesse. I think the deification of Trump is pathetic and wrong headed but he is right to stir the system up. If I think of anything else to talk about I will not hesitate, thank you for your interest.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:09am
    - holysheet
      
      Surely you realise by now that we here don’t give a fuck about Lundy. The cops have got the right man. Now if you put the same amount of energy into getting a pardon for Peter Ellis, then we would all applaud you.
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:16pm
Mandel

https://www.amazon.com/Whiteshift-Populism-Immigration-Future-Majorities/dp/1468316974

Then you get books like this from Professor Eric Kaufmann.

His thesis is twofold:

1. We, the Jews and our progressive friends, must hide from the European nations that they are becoming extinct due to our policies.

2. To avoid resistance and civic strife, we must destroy the possibility of a coherent white identity in all of it’s possible forms.

The only difference between this and basically the full canon of Jewish socio-political work on the gentiles is that it’s so incredibly overt. Kaufmann, like Goldman, is now very open and obvious in his xenophobia and hatred.

This stuff gets noticed. I mean, how can you write a book like this, or an article like Goldberg’s, and not understand that calling for the annihilation of a people who have done everything they can to accept you and your ideas, or calling for the dissolution of the possibility of their identity (which is that of civilization) isn’t going to cause resentment and perplexion?

And in weaker minds like the murderer, it is going to cause violence. And eventually, some Irgun inspired Jew is going to kill a whole lot of Americans I think in revenge. And no amount of proxying or plausible deniability or scape-goating will prevent the truth of the matter.

So this is just to understand why there is an increasing amount of activity on the part of the silent majority in the United States and elsewhere.
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November 2, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
  Mandel, are you related or a clone of EAD TWO our KB resident Jew hater?
  
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  November 2, 2018 9:59am
Mandel

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50536.htm

How can people claiming to be the West’s outpost in the Middle-East, not only betray the United States Navy and endanger thousands of lives by giving the Chinese the Port of Haifa, but also the Port of Ashdod, and cede control of 90% of Israel’s commercial exchanges?

How can Israel contract with the Chinese to give them basically all the technology given to them in good faith by their protectors and patrons the United States of America?

How can Israel give China control of almost it’s entire agricultural and food supply market? Without telling their ‘best friends’ in Washington?

This is what Trump meant when he said to a little kid “Allies can turn – you’ll find that out”.

How can Jews sit there and talk about ‘unjustified’ hostility and ‘impertinent’ questions from the goyim, whilst they simultaneously seek the annihilation of the nation of the United States of America, and also betray the United States to the Chinese in the most fundamental ways they possibly can?

The 6th fleet now, basically can’t interface with any Israeli infrastructure. Because Netanyahu and all those MIT and Harvard educated Jews in Israel have in effect betrayed the United States wholesale, and kowtowed to China.

I bet most Jews didn’t know about that, right? Well guess what – ex military guys in the Midwest know about it. They’re the guys with relatives who have died in Iraq, or Afghanistan (Jews in the United States basically never fight – why would they? Sarah Silverman says she feels terrified when she sees an American flag having made her millions in Hollywood denigrating the country that gave her the opportunity to be wealthy). They know about it.

Imagine how they feel?

How is it possible for people to be so utterly mendacious, deceitful and to betray their allies so easily?

I don’t understand. Why doesn’t this get more coverage?
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November 2, 2018 10:01am
- stephieboy
  
  Do you support the US President as a matter of interest?
  
  https://yournz.org/2018/11/02/trump-tweet-is-a-sickening-ad/
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:02am
- VicParking
  
  Because its crap
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:51am
- mark15
  
  Who is paying for the coverage…?
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:26pm
DJ Ward

NZ to introduce Alimony.

Feminist think tank, The Law Commision has announced.

This is as result of its review of the failed Relationship Property laws.

A major change is a carbon copy of what I have advocated for years. Property owned by a person at the beginning remains that persons. Capital gain on that property will be split 50:50.

Other changes include.
The primary caregiver will automatically get the house. Only 10% of mothers walk out leaving the kids and males only get awarded custody in 6% of family court cases. This is code for the woman gets the house until settlement. High risk of manifestly unjust outcomes in such a policy. But it sounds good.
The split ratio of 50:50 will be modified by ‘The best interests of the Child’. This is code for mothers get extra. Agian high risk of manifestly unjust outcomes, but the catch phrase sounds good.

So what they have added is uncertainty. The carrot for women to engage lawyers, forcing men from children’s lives, and for men to employ lawyers in defending themselves.

As for the Alimony.
What the hell is this doing being added as matrimonial property. This will be tested on the bases of transitioning women from being stay at home mums. Compensating them for their choice not to work. The money will however be confiscated as offsetting DPB payments. Or maybe it won’t.
The issue becomes a man might pay 33% in tax, 27% in child support, 10% in student loan leaving 30% to pay rent etc etc. There is nothing left already.

While they intend to fix a major error in current Law. Probably due to women being ripped off which was not envisioned when the law was first created. The new sound good but obviously bigoted changes will have only one benifactor.

Lawyers.
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November 2, 2018 10:01am
- Inandout
  
  Drafted by lawyers, for lawyers. There is a surplus of legal people at the moment and property conveyancing has become very competitive, so this should help fill their coffers.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:54am
- wiseowl
  
  Not entirely with you DJ.
  If you have a farm before getting married do you think ex should get half capital gain?
  
  If it was separate at the start then surely it should remain separate ?
  I have seen too many cases recently that have sunk guys totally.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:40am
  - DJ Ward
    
    As a general principle 50:50 capital gian is the just option. It prevents or limits the obvious predatory false love situation. If you don’t go with such a rule you end up with an argument over every cent contributed, compensation for non earning contribution etc or sexual predatory behavour.
    
    In effect everything earned during the relationship is shared 50:50. Protecting pre relationship assets like retirement savings. Obviously inflation over time affects the end result. A 3 year relationship is made vastly safer. A 25 year relationship becomes more like present 50:50 split of everything.
    
    If you believe you need special protection then get a pre nup. Be aware however that they are routinely voided. The change actually for most people removes the need for pre nup.
    
    They also intend to change Trust Law so assets are no longer protected in that way.
    
    Guys are getting ruined because there is presently no protection for existing assets. Unless the person goes to extraordinary lengths to isolate and protect existing assets. Again courts routinely ignor those efforts.
    
    There is an endless list of severely harmed people, profound majority male that have relationships end the day after the ex qualifies for matrimonial property. This shift to asset gains being split is a major improvement making predatory sexual behavours less attractive.
    
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    November 2, 2018 12:08pm
    - KevOB
      
      I’m not seeing any motive for change except greed. The proposal sounds like reversion to what the present system corrected. A proper marital relationship doesn’t need five-eyes cover plans.
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:49pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        That’s nice. To have a proper marital relationship. Interesting that this law covers everything that’s not one of those. lE most relationships.
        
        Proper marital relationships apparently last forever. Paradise apparently is the reward.
        
        The change in going to 50:50 earnings rather than pre existing assets is about stoping the motive of greed. The opposite of your comment.
        
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        November 2, 2018 2:05pm
    - wiseowl
      
      Thanks DJ.
      Largely agree but every case different .Have been reading a number of decisions in various courts that are helpful but can’t help but feel something is still wrong with the current legislation and trying to nail it.
      Interesting the guy that rang Leighton this morning .Married three weeks and she left .Cost him 3 million.
      
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      November 2, 2018 1:14pm
lifesgood

It may be old news now but this defence of Kavanaugh by Senator Lindsey Graham is well worth watching. Wouldn’t it be great to see fire like this in the belly of some of our politicians. Bravo, Senator Graham!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_C7o5INBzw
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November 2, 2018 10:07am
Mandel

Why are Jews such rampant thieves and liars?

https://www.mintpressnews.com/audit-pentagon-cannot-account-6-5-trillion-dollars-taxpayer-money/219246/

How is it possible that Trump, ‘Bad Orange Man, Orange Man Bad’, has to be the ‘unserious’ President to oversee an audit into the Jew run Pentagon that finds 6.5 TRILLION dollars that cannot be accounted for?

How can people keep a straight face and talk about overspending on the military, the ignoring of poverty, the need to spend more when they have overseen the apparent vanishing of 6.5trillion dollars from the Pentagon alone?

There is no escaping accountability here. The Pentagon has been run by Jewish and Israeli trained brass in contemporary memory.

And apparently, 6.5trillion dollars cannot be accounted for, by the self-proclaimed best accountants and lawyers in the world.

So what that means is, every single Jewish community group kvetching about their social concerns, are totally insincere. What they should do, is ask their friends who worked at the Pentagon what happened to $6.5trillion in American taxpayers money.

Where did the money go? Where did the Jews put 6.5trillion dollars that didn’t go to Americans suffering in squalor and abject impoverished misery? White, Black, and Hispanic?

Did they steal some of that money so that they could shoot another 130 women and children in Gaza, even as they spout about Tikkuning the Olam in America by taking in 15,000.00 sponsored invading terrorists on the Mexican border?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6295535/Protesters-launch-incendiary-balloons-Israel-latest-Gaza-violence.html

Oh no, they launched children’s balloons at Israel. We better shoot 130 women and children and talk about evil whitemales not tikkuning the Olam in the United States.

We have to replace these people. So it doesn’t matter if we steal $6.5trillion and then demand they provide more billions for Israel even as we give all of their technology and ports to China.

How is it possible that people with a supposed 1 Sd IQ advantage can be so swinishly ignorant and disingenuous?

Again, it doesn’t excuse murder of innocent honourable elderly Jews just trying to worship in peace in their Synagogue.

But it rather rankles when one is told this is all raw, deracinated, arbitrary Jew hatred for no reason.

I mean, what’s $6.5trillion dollars between friends?

It’s good to know all those really nice Liberal Presidents the Jews would have preferred were such careful stewards of all that missing money.
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November 2, 2018 10:12am
- stephieboy
  
  Mandel, the myth/ conspiracy /lies of the missing $6.5 Trillion is thoroughly and comprehensively debunked here,
  
  https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-missing-21-trillion-6-5-trillion-2-3-trillion-journal-vouchers.t9718/
  
  Flimsy conspiracies like this are merely a platform for further Jew-baiting and hating by someone like you. Comprehensively ignorant and stupid!
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Comprehensively ignorant and stupid!”
    
    Perfect labour intern material like you then?
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:21pm
- MCos
  
  Apart from your unsubstantiated allegations that the Pentagon is controlled by a religious group there’s nothing in the first article to suggest that $6.5trillion dollars has been stolen.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:25am
MCos

It seems that President may be going to appoint former Fox News reporter & Fox & Friends presenter Heather Nauert as the US Ambassador to the UN.
Here is an interesting article about her from three months ago in Business Insider if anyone is interested.
There are still some holes in her knowledge of world events.
Earlier this year she cited “the 1944 D-Day invasion of Nazi-occupied France as evidence of the US’s “strong relationship” with the government of Germany.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/heather-nauert-state-department-fox-news-2018-6/?r=AU&IR=T
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November 2, 2018 10:12am
- stephieboy
  
  And with the observation: ” MSNBC host Rachel Maddow compared her to a “confused” fourth grader. “
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:24am
  - backster
    
    Several levels above Miss Adern then.
    
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    November 2, 2018 10:49am
    - stephieboy
      
      backster, no! But you? Yes!
      
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      November 2, 2018 10:56am
      - Tall Man
        
        Is Ardern a liar?
        
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        November 2, 2018 1:08pm
      - Vory v zakone
        
        Yes and so is Ralphieboy….. sigh lolololololo
        
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        November 3, 2018 1:36am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    You are quoting “rachel maddow”…wow, now there is a lowering of standards, even for you.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:54am
    - Tall Man
      
      Apologies for contradicting you but steffy girl has absolutely zero standards which is why she is a labour intern hoping to be on the party list at some time in the future.
      
      Probably a way to adjust the gender/fuckwit/moron balance and get it right to the 100% target.
      
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      November 2, 2018 1:19pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Do they let old white men stand for the Labour party?
        
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        November 2, 2018 5:56pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Well, Rachel Maddow would know, she is right about everything. Warning, contains liberal tears.
    
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    November 2, 2018 12:32pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Sounds like most of you interns then.
    
    I would ashamed to spend my time parroting horse face’s musings and lies yet you labour interns seem to get a hard on for it….Or am I right steffy girl so you just get a little moist?
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:11pm
Mandel

Another under 18 year old woman got gang-raped in Germany, this time in Munchen. Just jump on Bild and hit the translate button. This time it was by 6Afghani’s, who the HIAS group that guy didn’t like in Pittsburgh, demanded the Germans take in. They raped and tortured a 15 year old for days.

Well I support that. It’s only fair that people being replaced are raped and raped and raped by the people replacing them.

So. Having read all of the above. What do you think is the stance of the Jews on why it might possibly be that people are a little unsettled by theft of $6.5trillion of their tax, their pending annihilation by replacement, dissolution of their identity, and theft of all their technology by their ‘allies’.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-anti-semitism-isnt-back-it-never-went-away/

Oh wow. Have a look. These goy, they are just unfathomable.

How could anyone be so anti-semitic as to oppose people who don’t pay or face any of the costs, demanding replacement migration which just raped a 15 year old girl in Germany into mental ruin? How? Oy vey, how can they do this to us?

Do you think this might be the problem?

So Mira Sucharov in the Globe and Mail writes that the goy have an anti-semitic attitude to ‘Jewish generosity’.

All the Jews are doing is engaging an “impulse to help others in need of sanctuary”.

Except – not in Israel. Not in Israel. Not in their own communities. Just in other’s communities.

Ah, right. So actually – there is no impulse to help others in need. Because that means YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

Instead, like all good socialists, you get ‘other people’ to pay for all the costs and externalities (massive rape, destruction of education etc). You just talk about your ‘generous impulses’. So generous.

What utter tripe.
“We welcome the Stranger”

No – you don’t. Strangers aren’t allowed in Israel. They aren’t allowed in your schools. They aren’t allowed in your communities. They aren’t allowed anywhere near you in any real sense.

The Jewish community in London’s kids aren’t part of the 1 million raped by the recipients of their ‘generosity’ via other’s peoples money and suffering. No, just those racist awful natives that need to be replaced.

‘Anti-semitism’ derives from the Hebrew word for name – ‘Shem’.

What it actually means is simply naming those in power.

The entire theology of ‘welcoming the strangers’ is a total farcical ludicrous insulting pile of dreck.

It’s easy to ‘invite strangers’ into other people’s homes, isn’t it?

So again – this doesn’t justify murder of innocents, who know nothing of this probably, just trying to live their lives.

But if any Kiwiblog reader is wondering about what is happening in the United States – now you might know.

Remember – the Jewish community regarded New Zealand observing long-standing precedent in the United Nations as a ‘declaration of war’.

What exactly do they regard giving China all of the United States’ military secrets and stealing $6.5trillion?

Anyway, I hope it doesn’t get worse. I just hope that the Jews realise that everyone knows this stuff. They’ll win in some countries. They’ve already won in Canada, England, much of central Europe.

20% of the new children in France have muslim names. The reason you can’t determine if for certain is because Jews have banned the collection of ethnic census information. Because they’re all about truth.

Anyway just a few thoughts and reflections.
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November 2, 2018 10:30am
dime

Yikes. not sure id put Trump to the test!

The invaders who want asylum in the US (not shitty Mexico where it was offered) best be careful:

Trump said. “We will consider that the maximum we can consider that, because they’re throwing rocks viciously and violently. …. We’re not going to put up with that. They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back. I told them to consider it a rifle. When they throw rocks, like they did at the Mexico military and police, I said, consider it a rifle.”
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November 2, 2018 10:50am
- Inandout
  
  Imagine Obama fighting back, no he would wet his pants first.
  
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  November 2, 2018 10:56am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    He would run out of marker pens for that “red line”
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:55am
- mandk
  
  Allow me to correct you on one point, dime.
  
  The invaders do not want asylum and they are not refugees. They do not even claim not be refugees.
  
  In all the interviews I have seen, the travellers make it clear that what they want is to get to America for jobs and a better life.
  
  They are economic migrants who want to enter another country illegally.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:32am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    ASSIDE
    I have seen many views (of this Caravan), from many news sources.
    Where are these families, where are these children?
    I have seen a couple of “families”
    The rest all appear to be young men between 18 and 30.
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:58am
    - Komata
      
      RW
      
      There are certain similarities with the European invasion of recent memory.
      
      Young fit males make a very useful and very destructive weapon, especially when ‘offered’ almost unlimited access to highly ‘mateable’ females.in return for certain favours of a violent kind…
      
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      November 2, 2018 7:29pm
secondcumming

If I’m ever on life-support, unplug me….

Then plug me back in, see if that works
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November 2, 2018 11:05am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Hence forth known as the robertson economic theory?
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:59am
- Brigitte
  
  @secondcumming, let me guess, you work for Windows Support?
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:12pm
Longknives

Clarke Gayford hasn’t put anything on Twitter for a week.
A week in which his beloved partner met with the Royal family on several occasions!
This is very unusual for a man who just LOVES the limelight and seems oddly convinced of his own megastar status…
Has Clarke been unwell?
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November 2, 2018 11:17am
- MCos
  
  Grizzle when he uses Twitter & now grizzle when he doesn’t.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:26am
  - Longknives
    
    I’m not grizzling Mcos.
    I’m just perplexed…I certainly hope Clarke is okay? (He is such a likeable fellow)
    
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    November 2, 2018 11:29am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Don’t print this…
      PPSSTT
      stoned????
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:00pm
    - MCos
      
      Maybe Jacinda told him to zip it, sweetie!
      
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      November 2, 2018 12:07pm
      - sooty
        
        Or he’s reading between the lines.
        
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        November 2, 2018 1:53pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
    What’s for lunch on the taxpayer at labour HQ today?
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:02pm
    - skyblue
      
      Cause she ain’t a liar, she never came in Clark’s mouth.
      
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      November 2, 2018 2:14pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      No less or no more than Simon, Judith and most especially you!
      
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      November 2, 2018 2:21pm
      - Tall Man
        
        So is that a yes, she is a liar or Simon and Judith and even I are just fucking awesome?
        
        Did you have to check with your team leader at labour HQ first?
        
        Is Ardern a liar?
        
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        November 2, 2018 3:52pm
      - skyblue
        
        Did you swallow?
        
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        November 2, 2018 11:52pm
- kevn
  
  @LK… He has had instructions.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:49am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I think that those of us who know how to ‘read between the lines’ know exactly why Jethro has gone quiet, and it’s related to why Shrek was able to come to his decision in six minutes.
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:07pm
- Woz
  
  He’s out fishing. With cameras in tow.
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:20pm
- lifesgood
  
  Is Clarke lying low, more to the point. He would have deferred the fishing programme for the Royals, you can be certain of that. No, there has to be another reason why he was otherwise occupied.
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:38pm
- Tall Man
  
  Puzzled about his Pole maybe…….
  
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  November 2, 2018 1:00pm
- skyblue
  
  Maybe he had to check with his Czech mate?
  
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  November 2, 2018 2:14pm
- Paulus
  
  Or has Clarke suddenly realised that he has already had enough being pushed hither and thither as nappy carrier and changer and all round maid.
  With so much more totty around perhaps he is sliding away, as expected.
  He cannot leave it alone as there is so much around.
  
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  November 2, 2018 2:45pm
- DJ Ward
  
  He is suffering from post natal depression. A fishing trip will fix it.
  
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  November 2, 2018 4:21pm
EAD_TWO

Welcome Mandel to Kiwiblog.

“That which has been seen cannot be unseen”
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November 2, 2018 11:34am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, at last, another deluded poster to keep you company after the disappearance of Reid and Reid 2.
  
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  November 2, 2018 11:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    How do we get the “disappearance” thing for you?
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
    Is Lees-Galloway a liar?
    
    How about an easy one then…..
    
    Is there anyone in the coalition who isn’t a liar?
    
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    November 2, 2018 12:58pm
    - sam green
      
      Cheers Short Girl.
      
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      November 2, 2018 11:07pm
Woz

In response to a post further up I was trying to find some links to photos I saw of Golly the Wog at the PN protests. What I turned up instead was this, a wee rant on her claim to be a victim of domestic abuse. Read it and tell me what you think. I get the feeling it’s more made up bullshit. For instance she says the relationship started when she was 18 (so 20 years ago), and the bloke sent her hundreds of messages a day. What kind of messages? Text messages? Who was sending hundreds of text messages a day 20 years ago? The SMS service was only just introduced 20 years ago, and it was fecking expensive. You know what I mean? Things don’t smell right.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107805270/golriz-ghahraman-turning-the-corner-on-domestic-abuse
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November 2, 2018 11:57am
- Tall Man
  
  I hate to say it people like her do not bring out the best in me…..
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:55pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    The way she spews out feminist, man hating propaganda about DV, women being silent about it, overwhelmingly female victims etc.
    
    She most certainly is a liar.
    
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    November 2, 2018 4:18pm
    - Woz
      
      I’ve listened to a LOT of bullshit over the years, and Golly the Wog’s entire claim to be a DV victim just stinks of it.
      
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      November 2, 2018 6:20pm
Mandel

And finally, to end the distasteful task of education – this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050129023102/http://www.towardtradition.org/our_worst_enemy.htm

That web page has been erased now. But it was archived.

Rabbi Daniel Lapin here engages in the rarest of rarities – upbraiding his his people for their hideous destruction of culture.

Note that this was way back in 2005. Things are vastly worse now as compared to then. Everything has been debased and corroded a full further decade. We didn’t have the invasion of Europe then. 2005 in the cultural sense was relatively pristine and sedate.

Why are Jews essentially monopoly owners and purveyors of pornography? Why do they insist on inculcating in people cultures of filth, dross, moronism, deviancy, the occult and stupidity whilst professing so often their so-called love of high art and capacities to create ‘high-art’.

Everything is about genitalia. Everything is about dirt. Everything is about inversion and perversion. Everything is about unreality and un-realism. Everything is about the periphery. Everything is about the identity over quality. Everything is about subversion which has lost it’s efficacy because there is barely anything left to subvert.

Why?

Rabbi Lipman makes many good points. I am a cultured person. I don’t say that to achieve anything in particular. It is simply a statement of fact. And here is the truth. As you assay the cultural landscape, always, like a vast blemish on the meadows, or a foreboding pulsating writhing black and purple cloud on the horizon is the Jewish debasement and subversion and destruction of human culture. The human form. Human nature. Human motivations. Human instincts. The natural order writ large.

Why?

I simply don’t understand.

It’s not ‘sophistication’. It’s not a mere preference for complexity. It’s a manifestation of some inchoate need to destroy. To simply destroy and blemish everything. And I don’t understand it.

All the ludicrous nonsense they indoctrinate children with today around gender inversion, sexual inversion, sexual consciousness, erotic play, the desire for subjugation, preference for ‘periphery’, preference for the ‘animalistic’ etc comes from those ideas which manifest in Jewish minds. Eternal revolutionaries against everything.

Adolf Hitler got a lot of mileage out of it unfortunately. Because what he said was undeniable. As Lipman said, the perversities of Weimar exploited by Hitler.

So why the seeming insistence of a repeat?

Anyway, I totally repudiate the murder in Pittsburgh. Nothing justifies murdering innocent people, particularly elderly people, who almost certainly have zero knowledge of any of this.

But I just want there to be some reflection. Because crimes and hypocrisy of such a high order – stealing such a vast sum of money, betraying such a steadfast ally in such a forceful manner, calling for the annihilation and replacement of people who have allowed you to essentially take control of their society, debasing culture whilst purporting to be it’s protectors – that is going to have ramifications.

So anyway. Enough. It’s all distasteful. But you know what the real tragedy of this is? I know, without a doubt, that any New Zealand Jews actually reading this, their first thought will be not self-reflection. It will be – how can we remove the ability of this individual to have an opinion and to express it in New Zealand? He or she is an awful anti-semite. And all of this is truth imparted out of concern for our wellbeing is one cast insult on our being.

Well no, it isn’t.

Anyway. No doubt the Dems will take the house, and the left will have an opportunity to show magnanimous it is.
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November 2, 2018 12:10pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  But you know what the real tragedy of this is? I know, without a doubt, that any New Zealand Jews actually reading this, their first thought will be not self-reflection. It will be – how can we remove the ability of this individual to have an opinion and to express it in New Zealand?
  
  Such a great observation
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:26pm
cmm

So Faafoi seems to be signalling that Huawei may be cut out of suplying NZ 5G infrastructure.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/108261662/kiwi-mobile-phone-users-would-pay-for-5g-ban-on-chinas-huawei-2degrees-warns

Is this just more Labour chink-bashing or is it based on any substance? I doubt Faafoi has enough understanding of any of this to make a call.
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November 2, 2018 12:52pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Only safe choice at this point. Huawei are (like all large chinese companies), an extension of the Chinese govt. UK, USA, Australia have also banned them, a lot more will follow.
  
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  November 2, 2018 1:16pm
- Jack5
  
  If National opposes the shut-out of Huawei from NZ, there will be further accusations that the National Party is in the pocket of Beijing.
  
  National has already brought into Parliament as a list MP a former employee of the Chinese electronic spy service. A Huawei link might be the straw that breaks the Five Eyes camel’s back, at least for New Zealand. This is regardless of whether Huawei is in fact a serious security risk to Western countries.
  
  The United States has shut Huawei out of the American market, and Australia looks to be doing the same in its market. Both countries are acting on security grounds.
  
  Ren Zhengfei, the founder and president of Huawei is a former officer in the People’s Liberation Army, and Huawei is a large contractor to the Chinese Government.
  
  http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-20141207-column.html
  
  AND
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-china-huawei-tech/australia-prepares-to-ban-huawei-from-5g-project-over-security-fears-idUSKBN1K111O
  
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  November 2, 2018 2:49pm
  - Jack5
    
    And who and what are these “Chinks” that CMM speaks of?
    
    Is that National-speak for Chinese?
    
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    November 2, 2018 2:53pm
    - Woz
      
      Term of endearment, dear boy, term of endearment.
      
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      November 2, 2018 6:22pm
Fletch

Democrat women get their kit off to get you to vote for them –

https://twitter.com/DaveVescio/status/1058068241057116160/photo/1

Ugh, I think it may have the opposite effect….
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November 2, 2018 1:36pm
- Longknives
  
  Dear God is that the best the Democrats can do?
  I suppose they are still Supermodels compared to the woman on our own Political Left…
  Could you imagine a nude promo featuring Jacinda and her colossal teeth, Megan and Nanaia??
  
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  November 2, 2018 3:42pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Oh my. Let’s just hope no mysoginist said they looked nice, or asked one on a date.
  
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  November 2, 2018 3:58pm
- Inandout
  
  Gropers!!
  
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  November 2, 2018 3:59pm
Rodney Randall

Croatia will NOT sign UN migration pact and joins the US, Hungary and Austria

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/breaking-croatia-will-not-sign-un-migration-pact-and-joins-the-us-hungary-and-austria/

Austria to follow US and Hungary by withdrawing from UN migration pact

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austria-un-migration-global-pact-agreement-us-hungary-sebastian-kurz-freedom-party-a8610161.html

Will NZ sign or are we a tinpot puppet state devoid of SOVEREIGN NATIONHOOD?
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November 2, 2018 1:52pm
Rodney Randall

Global Compact for Migration – MBIE

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/immigration/oia-responses/pacific-climate-migration/Global%20Compact%20for%20Migration%20-%20negotiating%20parameters.pdf

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austria-un-migration-global-pact-agreement-us-hungary-sebastian-kurz-freedom-party-a8610161.html

NZ=UN Puppet State thanks to Drunken Dwarf.
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November 2, 2018 2:35pm
- Jack5
  
  Rodney, but will National speak up on this issue?
  
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  November 2, 2018 2:55pm
Rodney Randall

A List of Anti-Soverign UN Migration Compact 2018 Traitors

Ian Lees-Galloway
Winston Peters

Bernadette Cavanagh: Secretary of Foreign Affairs and Trade

Sian Roguski: Manager Immigration Policy for the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment.

Sam Foley : Principal Advisor Policy

Angela Hassan-Sharp Manager United Nations, Human Rights and Commonwealth Division
(Loves to criticise NZ for not committing enough foreign aid and cites how Europe hands over cash to Africa and that “we are working on that in the Pacific”)
http://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/the-dominion-post/20070707/282866546442134

Angela Hassan-Sharp (picture)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/iisdrs/12941836234

Lauren Keenan – Senior Policy officer

These are the Anti Sovereign/Nationhood quislings handing over immigration policy to the CORRUPT UNITED NATIONS

Crickets from Vichy NAtional
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November 2, 2018 3:07pm
Jack5

First I’d heard of Angela Hassan-Sharp. I see she’s a “unit manager” at MFAT.

What’s Angela’s background?

Her photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/iisdrs/12941836234
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November 2, 2018 3:14pm
- Inandout
  
  Does she organise halal levies?
  
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  November 2, 2018 3:58pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSHXJHszo4
    
    FIANZ Halal Certification Documentary – Full Version
    
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    November 2, 2018 4:51pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    “Islam, in my view, has much to offer in building NZ’s national identity” – Former Governor General Anand Satyanand.
    
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    November 2, 2018 5:00pm
    - simpleton1
      
      A part of “Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand” speech by that Governor of General.
      
      Firstly, by celebrating and promoting Islam, you give New Zealand Muslims a reason to hold their heads up and be proud of their faith and heritage.
      
      Secondly, your leadership helps generate a wider understanding among all New Zealanders of the role of Islam, thus creating an environment which fosters inclusion.
      
      If I may be so bold, I would say that as a country we are making great progress towards becoming a fully inclusive and tolerant society. As a nation, we increasingly diverse and we are celebrating this diversity more and more. ….
      
      …….The challenge for the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand is two-fold. It is to continue building strong Islam communities from within, whilst at the same time, using that cohesion and strength to contribute to the developing sense of what it means to be a New Zealander today. …. https://gg.govt.nz/publications/federation-islamic-associations-new-zealand
      
      Slowly the numbers build from that 2007 speech as islam institutionalizes itself into all parts of our systems.
      
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      November 2, 2018 5:15pm
    - Woz
      
      Entirely true. I just wonder about the particular “national identity” he had in mind.
      
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      November 2, 2018 6:29pm
waikatogirl

NZ Customs have announced Departure cards no longer need to be completed from Monday 5 November. 6.5million are completed annually. It is reported it will improve the travelling experience.
Yay!
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November 2, 2018 4:13pm
- starboard
  
  About f $#@!^% time
  
  Bloated bureaucrats ..bah
  
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  November 2, 2018 7:12pm
Jack5

Multiculturism’s diversity dividend has been paid again in Melbourne.

A gang of 15 youths “of African appearance” has beaten up a a group of men, believed to be chefs, outside a restaurant.

In another Melbourne incident, youths “of African appearance” have attacked and robbed a man in St Kilda.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/two-muggings-by-gang-of-up-to-15-youths-on-busy-st-kilda-strip-20181102-p50dkl.html
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November 2, 2018 5:02pm
- simpleton1
  
  That sounds like a good reason why.
  
  It was very warm in Melbourne overnight. There were several violent assaults in St Kilda in the summer last year.
  
  yeah right !
  
  The state government has also committed thousands of dollars towards the rollout of more CCTV in the area, with plans to install cameras along St Kilda’s foreshore in the coming months.
  
  Yes that will fix the problem of hot global warming summer nights, yeah right.
  
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  November 2, 2018 5:22pm
  - DigNap15
    
    A better way to stop these animals causing problems in Australia is to deport them and not let any more into Australia.
    They belong in the jungle!
    What possible use to a modern civilised society are they?
    
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    November 2, 2018 7:49pm
Odakyu-sen

In Japan, how to tackle the problem of a shortage of unskilled laborers, while at the same time preventing the immigration of elements that would change the fabric of Japanese society.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/06/15/national/abe-led-panel-adopts-new-visa-plan-accept-500000-low-skilled-laborers-2025/#.W9vQn9UzaUk
It’s a tricky one.
Why did NZ let all those Pacific Islanders into the country in the 1960s without carefully considering their impact on wage rates and native communities?
Same for all those English immigrants in the 1970s. Was New Zealand not a “sustainable” society able to create and nurture its own native workforce?
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November 2, 2018 5:24pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Have a look at NZ’s fertility rate pre-1945 and from 1945-1970.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand
  
  My father & brother were brought to NZ in the 1930s to work as shepherds ….. NZ needed farm labour.
  After returning from WW2 my father trained as a Carpenter. People were moving from small farmlets into Towns /cities…
  Tradies/schoolteachers/nurses/
  factory workers were needed for the boomers.
  
  As Industries expanded more workers were needed…
  hence PIs as basic labourers and skilled immigrants/refugees like my F-in-law.
  
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  November 2, 2018 5:52pm
- nasska
  
  As Maggy wrote, NZ was desperate for unskilled & semi-skilled labour in the 60s & 70s. We manufactured or assembled nearly everything we could buy. Cars, TVs, furniture, clothing, nails, whiteware, carpet were a few of the items inefficiently produced in NZ factories.
  
  Featherbedding was rife in the freezing works which employed about twice the staff they needed because no one did a full day’s work. In the Hutt, for instance, employers would engage a worker on Monday, pay him before lunchtime on Thursday when he would go on the piss until Monday, get sacked, walk to the next factory up the road & get hired, no questions asked.
  
  In this circus the unions prospered, largely helped by dirty stinking Poms who inevitably wrangled themselves into positions as union delegates.
  
  “All oot Bros” was the cry of the land. Roger Douglas saved us!
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:46pm
  - Swifty
    
    Roger Douglas is a hero.
    
    He did what legions of politicians hadn’t the guts to do, even though they knew it was the right thing to do.
    
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    November 2, 2018 7:06pm
    - nasska
      
      I was driving a stock truck at the time Swifty & the downturn in the rural sector after the reforms killed my job of 18 years.
      
      Yet it dropped the price of land to levels where we took a chance on a forestry development which when sold allowed us to purchase a farm.
      
      She’s a queer old world.
      
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      November 2, 2018 7:15pm
      - Swifty
        
        What a great outcome.
        
        A pity that some people today don’t recognise that what he did was the elimination of privilege.
        
        The privilege to be paid certain dough, by the taxpayer, regardless of customer demand or producer efficiency.
        
        I was heavily involved in Wairarapa farming and hunting circles in the 80s and not one farmer I knew, from memory, decried his moves. They knew it was long overdue.
        
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        November 2, 2018 7:36pm
      - Swifty
        
        Can you just imagine it today?
        
        Cindy paying SMPs to various people, companies or industries purely to prop them up and irrespective of the customer demand for their products or services.
        
        Actually, there are a few public service rorts that come to mind!
        
        SMPs Live on! 🙂
        
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        November 2, 2018 7:48pm
      - nasska
        
        SMPs live on under another name Swifty but this time round they’re called WFF. That’s when Government support allows wages at levels below subsistence to be topped up without triggering sanctions from our trading partners.
        
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        November 2, 2018 7:56pm
      - Swifty
        
        Agreed.
        
        I am utterly convinced minimum wage levels and taxpayer wage top-ups are the source of many evils.
        
        They lock people into poverty for generations, retard endeavour, make simpletons of the population and make us all, ultimately, worse off.
        
        We need another Roger! 🙂
        
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        November 2, 2018 8:02pm
RF

Ha ha… Cindy is savage as her hapless Minister of immigration has taken the gloss off the Labour conference.

I hear from reliable sources that the investigation should reveal that the minister ignored advice from immigration and did not take the obvious steps to deport him. What surprised everyone was that he also granted the crook residency when it was not requested.

It was entirely his decision and typical of his arrogance.

If this is proven it will be another scalp for National.

Watch for a diversion announcement dreamed up on the hoof.

Meanwhile First Fish has gone into witness protection. Maybe he has a good reason.
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November 2, 2018 6:20pm
- Woz
  
  In these situations there’s a fine line between being a “strong” leader, and cravenly throwing your subordinate under a bus. Toothy has no idea where that line is, let alone how to walk it. Having said that, Sleaze deserves all that’s coming to him. Bring on the bus.
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:34pm
Swifty

Heh heh.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108312567/new-plymouth-courtroom-erupts-after-gang-member-punches-cooffender-in-dock

What a wonderful example of how to live.
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November 2, 2018 8:17pm
- DigNap15
  
  I hope that
  Kelvin Davis
  Willie Jackson and
  Andrew Little all saw that.
  
  The only way to stop high Maori crime rates is to stop them joining gangs and to educate them properly and give them some work ethic and pride in themselves.
  
  It starts in the home at age 4 or 5!
  
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  November 3, 2018 6:05am
Manolo

Another sexually-repressed follower of the religion of peace:
https://www.ilgiorno.it/milano/cronaca/violenza-sessuale-treno-1.4274658
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