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sooty

Comrade SLAG has a corrupt goverment!
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November 28, 2018 8:01am
- Longknives
  
  The most vile and corrupt Government in New Zealand Political History.
  But they have their adoring Media on board!
  Therefore- Don’t expect any accountability…
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:05am
  - sooty
    
    You have to call them media, because they ain’t journalist!
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:11am
    - igm
      
      After reading what a wanker called Hamish Rutherford has written about Bridges and CGT/Tax, media hacks such as him need a trip to Saudi Arabia!
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:18am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        You think that was bad? Did you read the climate propaganda piece “debunking the myths”. Utter crap, I do despair sometimes. The DP seems firmly aimed at propagandising preschoolers, certainly not at informing their parents.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:07am
    - G152
      
      The only ‘investigative journalist’ currently working runs the North and South magazine
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:20am
      - igm
        
        Ian Wishart is also very good.
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:53pm
    - Viking2
      
      That rubbish about the Hutt Valley was just that. The valley was a swamp when the europeans arrived. Maori only lived on a small section of the valley as it was not a place to walk about. The 1856 earthquake raised the valley floor allowing most of it to be habitable once drains were dug. The next earthquake will raise it even more. Most of the flooding prior to the 70’s was because all the trees were cut from the hills and water just runs off into the river.
      Absolutely badly researched.
      
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      November 28, 2018 4:49pm
      - DigNap15
        
        Its like all the climate chnage artilces.
        The area “mat” disappear in 80 years.
        
        Well it may not.
        
        They cannot measure sea levels very well.
        And there is no proof of any rise after 200 years of industrialisation.
        
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        November 28, 2018 7:18pm
- calendar girl
  
  Yesterday I watched the first 30 minutes of Parliamentary Question Time. PM Ardern’s personal attitude and demeanour suggested more than once that she feels it ‘beneath her’ to be questioned publicly on her Government’s actions and performance. And that she considers herself to be under siege unreasonably.
  
  From my personal perspective, many of Ardern’s QT answers are delivered with the PM adopting an undignified, defiant, sneering attitude. Then, invariably, she slumps back into her green-leather chair in a petulant gesture that seems to convey the expression: “So there”!
  
  There is no legal or practical requirement for Ardern to continue as Prime Minister. If it’s all too tiresome and demeaning for her to handle, despite its generous personal and financial rewards, she has the option at any time to stand down and lead a more ‘normal’ life. Nobody would deny her that option.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:22am
  - Huevon
    
    That’s the thing with accidentally becoming Labour leader 6 weeks before the election, the public didn’t get to see her in action.
    
    I too have watched her in QT and listen to most of her Tues morning interviews on Radio NZ. Haughty, evasive, condescending, phony concern… that’s how I would describe her attitude.
    
    I’ve come to the conclusion that, aside from her misguided policies, personally she is a real bitch. Feel sorry for that kid having a mother like her.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:36am
    - krazykiwi
      
      No accident here. Helen managed the whole process, including having Little step aside without a fuss.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:47am
      - sooty
        
        Is this why Jethro is missing?
        Just reading between the lines!
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:13am
    - freethinker
      
      Perhaps Jethro can longer access the white powdery feel good stuff and horse face is having withdrawal symptoms.
      
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      November 28, 2018 1:15pm
  - redeye
    
    I couldn’t agree more. Last night, after reading the headline that suggests Cindy had served it up to Bridges during question time, I decided to watch the clip.
    
    Silly little girl aptly describes her demeanor. She was awful.
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-jacinda-ardern-accuses-simon-bridges-having-no-credibility-numbers-during-kiwibuild-debate
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:36am
    - KevOB
      
      Simon is slowly wearing her out and Taxcinda is becoming more defensive by now pretending to be offended at being questioned. If she is actually offended she is showing a serious personality problem like some other world leaders.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:44am
    - graham
      
      Just watched the clip. Jacinda’s response at 0:52 … wow. Seriously upset, and the trademark slump down into her seat with a “You’re-so-MEEEAN-to-me-honestly-I-just-shouldn’t-have-to-put-up-with-this” look on her face.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:54am
      - sooty
        
        Baybeee.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:14am
      - freethinker
        
        Noticed how white her face was too much powder applied perhaps?
        
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        November 28, 2018 1:23pm
      - sooty
        
        Just powdering between the lines?
        
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        November 28, 2018 7:21pm
      - calendar girl
        
        In my view, she prefers to feel actually offended.
        
        I have strong doubts about her recognising any “serious personality problem” on her own part. Personally, I consider that she suffers more from her inner insecurity at lacking serious political or leadership experience. Coupled with her ‘soft’ educational and academic credentials that are far from the “sharp” end of the tertiary spectrum.
        
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        November 28, 2018 8:53pm
    - Komata
      
      redeye
      
      Watching the clip without the sound (to distract) is quite revealing, especially the flomp / flounce she makes after making each reply. That, accompanied by the facial expressions for which she is now notorious, is the real JA exposed.
      
      Definitely NOT nice and I’d hate to be her parliamentary staff…
      
      BTW: The downwards velocity with which she returns to the chair would indicate that perhaps said piece of furniture may have to be replaced sometime in the near future. The ‘impact’ stresses appear to be severe, especially when the ‘priNZess’ doesn’t get her own way…
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:46am
  - KevOB
    
    The govt benches act like silly young school girls. Poohbah Robertson thinks he is in some junior debate. Jacinda is refusing to be questioned without written notice so limiting access to her COL. A new constitutional nicety refusing to accept a question.
    
    Hopeless, incompetent and and unlawful without a mandate.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:37am
  - igm
    
    She is a disgrace to the office of PM, even though she is unelected.
    NZ is getting the cold shoulder worldwide by countries that matter . . . maybe they don’t like people who substitute t with d, and g with k — and the left take the piss out Bridges!
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:42am
    - KevOB
      
      Simon is bullet proof. He takes and he can give. He wears Taxcinda down and it is showing. She is breaking slowly. The Christmas season may give her a temporary break but that may only stack up another string of disasters to undo her in the new year.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:49am
      - lifesgood
        
        The tide is definitely turning. Reading comment sections on news posts it seems more and more are turning against her. I liked that someone referred to her as “Princess fluffy pants” . Seems apt…..she fluffs everything up. How long before she cracks? She is looking more and more haggard by the day. One day she will look back and question why she ever allowed this to happen, her daughter will grow up without her. Mind you, that is probably the best thing for the poor unfortunate child.
        
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        November 28, 2018 12:03pm
      - RF
        
        Ardern should brush up on her history and study what happened to Nicolas Ceausescu, the Romanian communist Dictator.
        
        There is a breaking point.
        
        Interesting that there is a budget blow out of several million upgrading security of her love nest. Does she know something.
        
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        November 28, 2018 12:28pm
      - KevOB
        
        Another crack in the dyke. 1:03 today 28th Nov.
        
        ILG has rescinded his order: Sroubek cannot stay.
        The justification puts Taxcinda and Deputy Old Fella right in the firing line.
        ILG admits to not reading the file. Taxcinda supports his decision. Winston says he had read the file (I heard him) and agrees with decision.
        
        Taxcinda was not in the House this pm. Possibly could not face the urgent debate.
        
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        November 28, 2018 4:51pm
  - cmm
    
    I am sure it is all rather annoying for her.
    
    Being PM of these little islands is just an unpleasant, and unavoidable, stepping stone towards her goal: CinD4UN.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:31pm
Notsofast

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Rod Miller from Texas wrote this

“Individual nerve fibers and astrocytic processes were apparent on the neurofilament and GFAP stains, respectively. This provided unequivocal evidence that Mark Lundy had brain tissue on his shirt, from an area that also contained Christine Lundy’s DNA.”

Hence the original mantra that Mark Lundy had his wife’s brain on his shirt.

Fast forward 16 years, and Mark Cooper writes

“[358] All of these matters must have been rejected by the jury as not raising a
reasonable doubt about Mr Lundy’s guilt. None of them are particularly cogent as an
indicator of another person being responsible for the crime. In our own view, they do
not raise a credible basis on which we could go behind the implications of
the CNS tissue and DNA found on Mr Lundy’s shirt.”

No longer brain but CNS tissue.

Now what are these matters that must have been rejected by the jury?
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“(a) There were a number of unidentified fingerprints at the scene as well
as an unidentified footprint.

(b) There was an absence of blood in Mr Lundy’s car, on his glasses and
ring and the motel unit where he stayed in Petone………. Mrs Leak also referred to the risk that a garment worn
over the polo shirt would have left fibres on the shirt.

(d) Scrapings taken from under the fingernails of both the deceased, after
being analysed in 2014, were shown to contain the DNA of unknown
males.
(e) A number of fibres were found under the fingernails of both deceased.
These were analysed and could not be attributed to Mr Lundy’s
polo shirt.”

And so on.

So in the decision we become the mind of the jury, a jury so moronic they would totally ignore the fact someone who was not Mark Lundy was at the crime scene, and that Mark Lundy himself was completely untainted by this bloodiest crime in New Zealand history. I hope this post passes muster on the forum because this is a crucial case for the New Zealand people. It is not alright to pluck innocent citizens from obscurity like the hydra, and cast them in jail for life.
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November 28, 2018 8:01am
- sooty
  
  8.20 and 27 downticks. They love you!
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:20am
  - Notsofast
    
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    The posts may also be placed on moderation and disappear. I try to attack the ball, not the man.
    This is a case of massive public interest, it is just that the massive public are to date unaware.
    Do you consider this orgy of downticking facts adult behaviour?
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:26am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I try to attack the ball, not the man.
      
      You need to try harder Notsofast. Too often your posts are filled with ad hominems about the police, lawyers, pathologists, expert witnesses and others who put Mark Lundy where he belongs.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:34am
      - Fletch
        
        The balls?
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:55am
    - Notsofast
      
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      Keeping Stock:
      Did you read that post? Do you pay any heed to the crime scene in this tragedy, where Mark Lundy cannot be placed except with a forensic method that has never been used again in any court in the world. There was malpractice at multiple levels, how can this be described without naming the people?
      You are in denial, and trusting a judiciary who have been demonstrable failures multiple times in uncontroversial cases of exoneration such as Arthur Thomas, Teina Pora, Rex Haig, and George Gwaze. There you have multiple appeal courts who in their role as correctors have perpetuated shocking injustices. This is not complex it is simple mathematics. You have your head stuck in the sand along with your whole village.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:44am
      - KevOB
        
        I try not to second guess the Courts as one not present to hear the evidence. There is a form of confirmation bias that can creep in where a “case is made” almost literally. I know it well from the inside. It’s easy in law enforcement to believe you are right so the evidence must provide a conviction. What’s the point in trying to put together a prosecution if you don’t believe the defendant is guilty? The evidence has go to stack up or be seen to be. Is a law enforcement officer corrupt if he truly believes that the defendant is guilty and he should make sure he shows that?
        
        I have not followed Lundy closely but the timing is concerning. Expert witnesses are not always that expert either. They can be selected for their agreeability.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:00am
      - Notsofast
        
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        KevOB I have spent time, for better or worse running into the thousands of hours, yet distressingly the case is simple.
        Mark Lundy got into business with a guy who owed truckloads of money to other people. This guy gave him an invoice for 500 plus GST, and told his other creditors they would be paid in turn when this 500k invoice was paid by Mark. One of these creditors became impatient and sent a person straight to the lundy household, who went in when the lights went off at night. But Mark was in Petone, the screaming woke the kid, who came in and attacked him from behind, then the blows to Christine were struck. Mark had nothing to do with this, no ability to change events.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:07am
    - Swifty
      
      You still don’t get it do you?
      
      People are not downticking your posts or the facts or non facts as the case may be – they’re downticking you.
      
      Why do they downtick you? Well, my money is on people regarding you as a single issue fanatic in the same league as Pavletich, the water woman, Morrissey etc and who all regarded themselves as better than everyone else.
      
      Those types don’t go down too well around these parts…..
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:20am
      - Notsofast
        
        Why down tick at all, just move on and read the sensible people on the forum. Easy. I post the case facts here because there is a small audience who read for the facts, of course DF owns the forum and can regulate any way he chooses.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:25am
      - Swifty
        
        They downtick to express their disapproval.
        
        You know how it works here – railing against it isn’t going to get you anywhere.
        
        Maybe if you modified your approach…….
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:52am
      - peterwn
        
        Notsofast – if you do not like being downticked, then comment on Whaleoil. They disabled downticks some years ago.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:52am
      - KevOB
        
        There does seem to be a bit of intolerance. History justifies those who have championed cases where they are certain for whatever reason an injustice has been done. That’s better than another variety who would prefer all criminal big and small to be dealt with by a bullet and lynch mob. We are fortunate in having KB in its present form where very free expression is permitted. I’m sure the moderator and David will let us know if we are getting out of hand.
        
        I appreciate Notsofast’s concern and his doubts are marshaling me to take a fuller look. At present I go with the Courts but with an enthusiastic prosecution jury’s do not always get it right.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:30am
  - Harkman
    
    Perhaps there should be a new rule, 100 down ticks for one post and you are banned via in address for life.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:02am
    - Notsofast
      
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      This is a pathetic suggestion, as pathetic as mindless down ticking. I am trying to inform.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:09am
      - Chris R
        
        Why do you assume the down-ticking is “mindless” when you are parading assumptions about Lundy. Unless you were present at the murders all of your assertions are assumptions only hence you can be regarded as mindless too.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:26am
      - Notsofast
        
        I am not making assumptions at all. A crime scene offers clues to what happened, and in this case those clues point away from Mark Lundy and right at an unknown man wearing a particular garment. Why assume Lundy did it when the alleged forensic evidence is degraded, yields no dna or neurons, and he has an alibi that he was in Petone? The “experts” were all self deluded for their own reasons, unfortunately it is often as simple as money.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:30am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      I think it should just limit your posting. 100 net cumulative downticks in a day and no more posts for you that day, and limit only 2 or 3 posts a day for following week. Would fix mono-maniacs like Hugh+Notsofast and trolls.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:19am
      - Notsofast
        
        There is an easier solution, don’t read, don’t tick, don’t reply.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:26am
      - sooty
        
        Sorry reorted you.
        Don’t post, if no one wants it!
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:17am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Notso, do you realise that your futile defence of a guilty man is getting tiresome?
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:32am
  - Notsofast
    
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    Yes I get that point, and I have plenty else to do, but how does it all pan out if he is innocent? This can happen to anyone, and has many times here and internationally.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:46am
    - Tall Man
      
      Headline…
      
      “We don’t care”.
      
      Just let it go.
      
      FFS, the death penalty would have sorted this shithead out a long time ago.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:57am
      - Notsofast
        
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        Did you read the first post I made today and consider the implications for killing him?
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:01am
      - sooty
        
        NO!
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:18am
- Harkman
  
  Hi Mark ?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:04am
  - lifesgood
    
    That idiot Joe Karam was another who worked hard to get a guilty man off.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:10pm
- Andrei
  
  There is a major confrontation in the Sea of Azov brewing
  
  A Saudi Journalist has been dismembered by his Government in their Turkish Embassy
  
  The US Dollar is loosing its status as the worlds default reserve currency
  
  There is invasion of proposperous first world nations by armies of military age young men from the third world underway
  
  And the Bitcoin bubble is bursting
  
  All the while your intense focus remains on a murder that occurred nearly two decades ago
  
  Beats me
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:17am
  - Notsofast
    
    The Saudi journalist appears to have had sympathies with a nasty crew of Islamists, so he was executed as Mark Lundy should be apparently.
    Bitcoin is in a technical down trend and mining has stopped, That is a good thing for the planet apparently.
    The US dollar may lose its status but China will continue to seize New Zealand as alittle jewel in the Pacific. I care abiuut that alright, they are in the midst of exttremely dangerous social engineering.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:34am
  - MH
    
    AND the AB’s losing to Ireland twice now….
    
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    November 28, 2018 4:16pm
- waldonz
  
  Notsofast – I swear that you are Mark Lundy posting from prison.
  
  Give it up dude.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:04am
- howitis
  
  Re KevOB at 9.00 on this thread.
  …Is a law enforcement officer corrupt if he truly believes that the defendant is guilty and he should make sure he shows that?…
  What you are questioning is that if the cops believe the suspect is guilty then they can stitch the person up any way they want to.
  They can lie and cheat and make up stories that are unsupportable.
  
  What decent person supports the right of the cops to make up shit any old day of the week ‘coz it’s the right thing to do’ when detective work fails!
  Is it OK that in the A.A. Thomas conviction they planted evidence.
  So we have two juries – presented with lies- that convicted on each occasion.
  At least Muldoon stepped up like a true leader and took action immediately on the lies and miscarriage.
  We don’t see that any more from overpaid Crown Ministers. eg Teina Pora.
  
  A youngish cop on Crewe murders learnt the corrupt ways already happening in NZ in the 1970s. His name is John Hughes. He is dead now, fortunately. He was a thug and a liar.
  The A.A. Thomas/Crewe murders had a false prison confession that the court threw out.
  It had planted evidence.
  Hughes was lead detective in the Swedish backpacker murders in 1989. He made up tall stories to get a conviction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Urban_H%C3%B6glin_and_Heidi_Paakkonen
  …Three prison inmates testified against Tamihere at his trial. One of them, known as Secret Witness C, who has permanent name suppression, claimed that Tamihere confessed to him in prison that he’d beaten Urban Höglin over the head with a lump of wood and dumped the couple’s bodies at sea. He also claimed Tamihere told him he gave Hoglin’s watch to his son.[18] Höglin’s remains were eventually found near Whangamata on 10 October 1991 with his skull still intact and the watch still on his wrist…
  Read the story on Wikipedi or elsewhere. The misdirection and dishonesty by the cops was legendary.
  I would say it is way more plausible that Tamihere is guilty of that double murder than Lundy is of the ones pinned on him.
  
  There was much dishonesty by the cops there (Crewes and Swedish cpl) and Hughes was in the thick of it.
  Hughes got away with a lot of corruption even pretending to be (impersonating) a cop years after his retirement.
  But the cops look after their own and never go back. Stay inside the tent and you’ll be OK!
  We saw this with the Teina Pora case after a few years that Pora, whilst quite dodgy, was a few bricks short of a good wall and the cops would not, never ever, even if it was the right thing to do, back down on their lies.
  It would bring down their house of cards.
  There are too many examples.
  
  In the Case of the Lundy murders the NZ Police perjured themselves quite blatantly on the stand.
  In the first ‘trial’ they made up a story that was complete hocus pocus.
  Probably a 4 year would believe it.
  12 Adults should not.
  Here was a tall story of an impossible drive that Bruce McLaren could not do in peak hour traffic and no-one calling *555 which was new then and people though meant something even though it was bogus police smoke and mirrors.
  There was tall tales of a psychic who saw Lundy dressed as a woman.
  Read the story if you want ..a fantasy. Like Hansel and Gretel.
  The cops went witness shopping all the way to Texas to try to convict.
  But, after supposedly driving all the way to PN and ditching all clothing, weapons, and meticulous planning on petrol consumption Lundy placed the T shirt he was wearing in his car. Huh.
  What a dummy… or is it the people who believe this fantasy!
  
  The so called Trial number one was a complete NZ Cop fabrication.
  Christine in bed at 7pm, not watching Shortland St etc.
  KevOB floats the idea this is OK if the cops got the ‘feelz’ that he is the crook.
  Kind of like Cindy got the ‘feelz’ that Oil and Gas exploration is bad.
  Lundy was convicted on police perjury.
  An orchestrated litany of lies.
  
  This is a travesty.
  KevOB, I think you live in Christchurch.
  How do you think Peter Ellis felt when the cops came after him and showed no mercy or decency and were hell bent on his destruction as a human being ?
  
  I think if a guy is likely to be an axe murderer it would show sooner than later.
  The Upper Hutt axe murderer from 2014 was a gangster and had form.
  It is easy enough to hate a spouse and the divorce rate testifies to that.
  But does a guy of 43 suddenly become an axe murderer- a double axe murderer- including his own daughter?
  Common sense for those who don’t live inside cloistered churches says a couple of things:-
  >>Even the worst type of scum who are right tearaways have mainly calmed down by their late 30s. We see it with Mongrel Mob types. Pure scum at 17 but taxpayer funded ‘social workers’ or maori wardens in their 40s.
  >> Guys don’t generally kill their own kids. There are lots of feral scum on NZ who have killed ‘other blokes sprogs’ but few of their own.
  
  So we are supposed to believe that a guy in his 40s suddenly becomes a double axe murderer to get an insurance payout or something and takes out his own innocent 7 year daughter in the process.
  That is really, really pushing it.
  He may have been a prick. I don’t know. I’m sure all of you know a prick or two.
  Does that make them an axe murderer?
  A Double axe murderer.
  An axe murderer who kills his own defenceless 7 year old daughter?
  
  I understand there was a TV show from a pop psychologist and all round wanker called Nigel Latter or something (never seen it, never would) on TNVZ where he suddenly becomes an expert and can analyse people ‘professionally’ that he has never met, and this Latter guy pronounces that Lundy is guilty.
  Because Latter says so.
  What genius.
  Why have courts and all this expensive trial stuff when we can get TVNZ to declare whether people are guilty or not?
  
  But everyone is an expert because they ‘saw Lundy crying at the funeral’ – probably on the wonderbar channel of honest news – TVNZ .
  
  And why an axe?
  An axe is hard to explain if you are caught.
  It is going to be extremely messy if you use an axe.
  Did Lundy park streets away and carry an axe there , and back etc. Quite a risk.
  Why not a large kitchen knife. It is multi use and if caught with it there are lots of excuses as to why you have it.
  You can buy a kitchen knife discretely for cash at Briscoes or a $2 shop.
  If you ditch it in a waterway well there will be lots of knives there lost while fishing etc.
  An axe. Much harder to explain.
  An axe is for intimidation. It is big. It is not discreet. So it does not work well as a concealed weapon especially for this alleged clandestine operation.
  An axe requires swingback and the target can move during that time. An axe is generally for a stationary items. A poor choice of weapon for such a ‘well planned event’.
  
  Anyhows. Long enough.
  There is massive doubt as to whether Lundy is the perpetrator.
  The so called trial number one was a complete fabrication.
  Why did the police lie?
  In reality they had no case and the whole litany was based on one weak thread hinged on witness-shopping literally halfway across the world.
  According to the cops Lundy planned this meticulously including covering phone calls, petrol consumption, timing of hooker, avoiding cameras and security, getting rid of evidence all except leaving the T shirt he was wearing in the back of his car. Duh?
  Did you hear the true story of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?
  Was so-called trial number two any more honest?
  
  Did Tamihere murder the Swedish backpackers? Entirely plausible.
  Did Mark Lundy axe murder his wife and 7 yo daughter. This is much less plausible.
  So KevOB in answer to your question:-
  Q. ..Is a law enforcement officer corrupt if he truly believes that the defendant is guilty and he should make sure he shows that?..
  A. Hell no.
  
  I also think that the jury system is weak in that the jury have to sit there and be fed crapola all day long.
  They must be allowed to directly ask at least 6 questions, with supplementaries, of witnesses – still under oath- perhaps delivered by the case lawyer.
  This is now allowed in some jurisdictions. The weak court system in NZ has a lot to protect.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:54am
  - Lance
    
    Warning… scroll wheel damage alert
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:21pm
    - howitis
      
      🙂
      
      Short enough for you?
      
      https://www.pbtech.co.nz/category/peripherals/mice
      
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      November 28, 2018 12:37pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    If you want to write a book, go to a publisher.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:21pm
  - Notsofast
    
    Howitis you are of course right, which signals a major issue. How can 3 people who are supposed to be of the highest intelligence, and have read all the defence submissions detailing proof Lundy is innocent, all be certain of his guilt?
    
    “We are certain of his guilt”.
    
    There is something so gravely off piste here that this onslaught on their wisdom or integrity is bound to continue.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:24pm
  - Nermal
    
    TL;DR
    
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    November 28, 2018 2:50pm
  - KevOB
    
    Thanks for your considered response. My question arose out being involved in forensic investigations where a prosecution and other consequences were the outcomes. There was pressure to establish the desired result. It was not helpful to promotion to start a case that was not expected to be successful.
    
    Axe murders: my wife’s family had a double one within the past century.
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:16pm
krazykiwi

A heartwarming, good-news story that will have GoVeg smiling all day: 1,400kg Australian steer ‘Knickers’ spared from the barbecue because it is too big to fit in abattoir.

That’s 3,000 meat patties that will never exist.

Celebratory salad time. 😉
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November 28, 2018 8:02am
- hullkiwi
  
  ….sorry, but I think it is fake news for a townie with half a story..
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:35am
Longknives

This week’s Haka outrage-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/108899046/haka-in-kpop-music-video-offensive-says-maori-lecturer

Honestly- For a race of people who claim to be ‘tough guys/warriors etc ‘ they really are precious little petals..
Do the Scots complain about people wearing kilts? or using bagpipes? Groundskeeper Willie??
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November 28, 2018 8:03am
- sooty
  
  Suck it petal!
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:04am
- Woz
  
  Little brown snowflakes.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:09am
- G152
  
  Coming from a people who appropriated reggae that’s ironic….
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:23am
- KevOB
  
  Maori are tribal and had no written language. Their significant cultural events and histories are preserved in song, dance, carving, wall panels. Genealogies are preserved that way too.
  
  There are places in the Pacific where you can be imprisoned for giving genealogies without proper rank and authority. Property rights are tied up in these and oral transmission has to be kept authoritative. This is also true in NZ. What passes to Pakeha culture as an agreeable musical item may be much more to others.
  
  I am not for pushing “Maori Culture” on Pakeha but being watchful over not borrowing it where it may have real significance.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:25am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Which authoritative body or panel of experts would rule on whether “borrowing _____ would have real significance”?
    
    Would the decision-making process of such a body be transparent?What texts and records would they consult? Or would they reach a decision based on their subjective feelings about the issue?
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:42am
    - KevOB
      
      Ask the tribal Elders where the material originated. Even on marae some knowledge is reserved to the custody of particular people.
      
      Specialist knowledge like genealogies has its own tribal custodians.
      Some is oral other information is recorded in carvings etc.
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Kevin, I’ve heard before that Maori genetic information is recorded in facial tattoos, and now you say it is in carvings.
        
        Given that Maori had no written language, was this done with some sort of charts and symbols?
        
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        November 28, 2018 4:03pm
      - KevOB
        
        @Jack5
        Tatoos–another form of carving, sort of. Throughout the Pacific body art can carry a lot of meaning.
        I expect the Ta Moko of Nanaia Mahuta has ceremonial significance. The Samoan pe’a where a man is extensively tatooed on waist, thighs etc. carries information about title, rank and history.
        
        There was a priestly rank entrusted with this hidden special knowledge. This where the real culture is.
        
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        November 28, 2018 5:25pm
    - sightpicture
      
      ‘Koha’ would probably help secure an outcome, based on recent history…
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:11pm
  - lifesgood
    
    They bloody well borrow our culture. A pox on them, I say.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:12pm
  - kowtow
    
    “Preserved”
    
    There’s no Maori record in song , dance ,carvings or wall panels of their contact with Abel Tasman.
    
    That’s cos that tribe would have been wiped out and eaten by later Maori invaders of that particular part of the country.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:02pm
- graham
  
  Reading the article I’m incredibly surprised at the following three points (not):
  
  Surprise number 1 (not): According to the lecturer, even Maori themselves can’t agree whether to be offended or not. Said lecturer states “I’m from Tūhoe and if I view that music video with that lens, then I’m offended. But if I wore my Te Arawa hat, I’ll be more understanding because Te Arawa have been engaged in tourism and international cultural events for a very long time.” Fine, let’s just say the group spoke to someone from Te Arawa who said “Chur, bro, go for it, just give us some koha and she’s sweet as”.
  
  Surprise number 2 (not): The overwhelming majority of comments are along the lines of “stop being so damn over-sensitive”
  
  Surprise number 3 (not): Stuff have closed the comments!
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:32am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    You know you’re getting closer to the truth when Stuff closes the COMMENTS section.
    
    //
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:46am
  - Longknives
    
    Stuff always close comments when they don’t get the Left Wing sympathetic answers they want…
    
    Sometimes they even delete them!
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:09am
    - Rich Prick
      
      The comments on the pregnant Dunedin “bloke” were obliterated. I saw them beforehand, none were offensive, just not 100% supportive of Scout.
      
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      November 28, 2018 10:39am
      - Longknives
        
        Aaah Scout the “Christmas Miracle” as Seven Sharp called her…
        How the fuck is a Mentally ill (She admits this) woman pretending to be a bloke getting pregnant a ‘Miracle’??
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:11am
      - sooty
        
        Only becoming a bloke after organising the meal ticket.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:22am
- Than
  
  Groundskeeper Willie is a very topical example. Lately we’re hearing all about “the problem with Apu” (Indian Kwikimart owner from the Simpsons), about how the character is racist and terrible. There are rumours that the character may even be cut. But Willie clearly proves this argument is nonsense – just snowflakes wanting something to be offended about.
  
  Stereotypes and caricatures have been staples of comedy forever, and European groups are hardly immune. In addition to the already mentioned Willie, the Simpsons has a gunslinging Texas tycoon in a suit and ten-gallon hat. Several Roger Moore-era Bond movies had a cliched southern sheriff. The Tintin books had the extremely English Thompson and Thomson. The Crocodile Dundee files were built on Australian stereotypes… I could go on and on.
  
  The only reason the character of Apu should be considered offensive is if he was portrayed consistently negatively – as stupid, or mean, or violent, something like that. But he isn’t. The character is always portrayed as friendly, polite, and reasonably smart. Compared with the quirks and flaws some other Simpsons characters have, he’s an absolute paragon of excellence. Merely being a stereotype alone doesn’t qualify as racist or offensive.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:47am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And people forget that Mr Golly – the Garage owner in Toyland – was one of Noddy’s best friends.
    He was sensible and helpful and always managed to fix Noddy’s car.
    
    People only remember the rude, car-converting golliwogs…and use them as evidence of inherent racism.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:18pm
  - Jack5
    
    Of satire, and racism ….
    
    There’s a line between satire and persecution propaganda, such as the depictions of Jews in Nazi hate material. But Apu in the Simpson’s is clearly satire.
    
    Talking of Indians, real racial stuff is happening in Malaysia. Violence is occurring between Muslim Malays and ethnic Indians of Malaysia’s Hindu minority.
    
    Fifty masked, machete-carrying thugs have attacked people at a Hindu temple, and there are reports of pork being flung into mosques.
    
    The discord comes soon after Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said Malaysia would not ratify the United Nations’ International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.
    
    In Malaysia, the ethnic Malays who make just over two-thirds of the population are regarded as indigenous, and are given preferences such as housing discounts and favourable education quotas. There has been lobbying against the UN accord.
    
    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/2175302/malaysia-calls-security-council-session-pm-mahathir-denies-racial
    
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    November 28, 2018 2:58pm
Rodney Randall

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108891975/setbacks-for-teen-who-planned-mass-killing-in-christchurch-for-allah

Golf lessons, Mosque councilling and BBQs with the Judge planned for aspiring JIHADI in Christchurch despite some ‘setbacks’

You can’t make this sh÷t up.
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November 28, 2018 8:03am
- Huevon
  
  Why is he:
  (a) here in the first place? And
  (b) not already on a plane back to the shithole country he came from?
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:14am
  - Sofia
    
    (a) the person was born here, as reported in media before suppression took place
    (b) see (a)
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:45am
    - Jack5
      
      Are you sure about that, Sofia?
      
      If, as your following post suggests, you are relying on a report that he is a “kiwi teenager”, you are on weak ground. Our media bend over backwards to describe foreigners who have been in NZ only a year or two, especially those from the Mid-East and South Asia.
      
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      November 28, 2018 10:42am
      - Jack5
        
        Sofia, note in the report you link to, these points, that don’t suggest an NZ-born and raised person:
        
        ” …there was significant premeditation, and hostility towards non-Muslims…”
        
        And:
        
        “…The teen, who was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder..”
        
        Born in NZ, an suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder?
        
        Sofia, are you running a PR diversion on behalf of Muslims?
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:51am
      - SGA
        
        On the other hand, Jack5, other information doesn’t make it sound that his family is Muslim?
        
        He had left school at age 15, become socially isolated, and converted to Islam.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:55am
      - SGA
        
        Born in NZ, an suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder?
        
        A quick look at PTSD
        https://www.mentalhealth.org.nz/get-help/a-z/resource/45/post-traumatic-stress-disorder
        
        Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a psychological reaction to experiencing or witnessing a significantly stressful, traumatic or shocking event. This might be a car crash, a rape or other sexual abuse, an earthquake, or other natural disaster, or an attack.
        
        Any situation where there was a risk of being killed or injured, seeing others killed or injured, or sometimes even hearing about such things, can result in PTSD. Some events are more likely than others to cause PTSD.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:10am
      - Jack5
        
        SGA, known for his Leftist, multiculturist views, joins Sofia in trying to deflect the focus from Islam in discussion of a would-be terrorist mass murder in Christchurch.
        
        Well, folk, I apologise. It’s clear that I was wrong. This incident may be really attributable to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, or Mormons, or the Salvation Army. ?
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:18am
      - SGA
        
        @Jack5
        
        SGA, known for his Leftist, multiculturist views joins Sofia in trying to deflect the focus from Islam in discussion of a would-be terrorist mass murder in Christchurch.
        
        Oh for heavens sake, Jack5, you’re usually better than that. Just because someone questions something you say doesn’t make them part of a communist plot. I know it’s convenient to dismiss other people’s comments that way, but it’s just lazy.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:21am
      - Jack5
        
        SGA you are minimising, and thus being an apologist for, a Muslim would-be terrorist mass-murder plan for Christchurch.
        
        I guess that makes you, as a liberal, feel good. A+ for virtue signalling.
        
        The case we are discussing was a plan or Muslim terrorist massacre by car and knife. It was an echo of what has been going on in Melbourne, and the horror attacks in Western Europe.
        
        There have been other attacks connected to Christchurch. A Somali woman knifed the hands of the pilots of a Christchurch-bound regional airliner. A Somali ran amok in the streets knifing people. Two Australian Muslim-convert extremists killed in Yemen were alleged to have been radicalised at the Christchurch mosque.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:39am
      - SGA
        
        SGA you are minimising, and thus being an apologist for, a Muslim would-be terrorist mass-murder plan for Christchurch.
        
        Nonsense – I’ve done nothing of the kind. I’ve questioned a couple of assumptions that you made – you haven’t a good answer so you’ve decided to pursue an ad hominem attack to save face.
        
        meh – I’ve work to do.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:47am
      - Jack5
        
        ? Never take seriously a poster who uses “meh”.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:54am
- Philview
  
  He didn’t just plan the attack, there has been suppression on what he actually did. Media reports at the time of the court case said a lot of people were left traumatised by what happened. I can only speculate that with no access to bombs he drove at a crowd of people, somehow stalled the car and was dragged from the car. We will never know as it was suppressed.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:26am
  - Sofia
    
    A Kiwi teenager radicalised online planned to ram a car into a group of people in Christchurch and then stab them.
    The youth’s name is suppressed and the details of the offending cannot be published. He has admitted eight charges. People were frightened by his actions during the incident last year, and damage was done, but no-one was hurt before he was held until the police arrived.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/101480988/kiwi-teenager-radicalised-online-planned-mass-killing-in-christchurch-for-allah?rm=m
    
    The earlier reported incident did not involve a car.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:21am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Chris Lange (Crown Prosecutor) said even though the youth had been treated for months by the youth forensic psychiatric team, he was still seen as a high risk of reoffending, and a risk to family members and members of the community
      
      Now we have new ‘setbacks’
      
      Judge Driscoll was supposed to recall this perp to prison if he reoffended.
      
      Instead a BBQ is planned. Halal presumably!
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:53am
    - Jack5
      
      Sofia pumps the “Kiwi teenager” angle.
      
      He was a Muslim would-be terrorist.
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:13am
      - Rodney Randall
        
        He’s f×÷ked in the head, and is still creating ‘setbacks.’ Judge Driscoll should not be entertaining bbqs, halal or not.
        
        If this Allah loving Muslim goes all Jihad i.e. able to mow down/ knife multiple human beings, the judge will have “blood on his hands.”
        
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        November 28, 2018 4:45pm
- Scott
  
  Okay let me see if I got this right? A young man, presumably a Muslim, wants to do an Isis style terror attack but he doesn’t because he couldn’t work out a way to kill enough people?
  
  In response the judge sentences him to supervised accommodation. The young man invites the judge to a barbecue and the judge says he will come but only if the young man behaves himself in the meantime.
  
  Honestly you can’t make this up! I have a few questions –
  – if the young man only kills one or 2 people before the barbecue would that be okay by the judge?
  – What does it take to get labelled as a terrorist?
  – Why is the young man not in jail?
  – After finishing his jail term why is the young man not marked for immediate deportation back to his home country? And his family as well?
  – Are we the softest, most naive, soft cock people in the whole world?
  – Why is this not a huge story in the media?
  – If the person had been a young white man and a member of a right-wing nationalist movement do you think this story would have been treated completely differently by the media?
  – And would a right-wing young white man be treated completely differently by the justice system?
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:46am
  - SGA
    
    And would a right-wing young white man be treated completely differently by the justice system?
    
    That’s a good question, to which I don’t know the answer.
    Let’s say a right-wing young white man was caught trying to organise an act of violence against an abortion clinic. What would the consequences be? Any informed opinion?
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:20am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The consequences depend on two factors: the identity of the perpetrator and the mindset the perpetrator was following.
      The higher up the “victimhood ranking” of the identity and mindset, the lower the severity of the consequences.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:54am
      - SGA
        
        meh – I suspected that my question would attract some version of virtue signalling, but I was hoping for a more informed answer. I’m genuinely curious.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:01am
      - Jack5
        
        ? SGA, you are talking of “virtue signalling” from Odakyu-sen?
        
        You really are full on in Soviet-Maoist-Goebbels white-is-black propaganda mode today, SGA.
        
        You would be in the top three virtue signallers to pop up on Kiwiblog.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:25am
      - SGA
        
        Goodness gracious, you really did get out of bed on the wrong side this morning. Soviet and Maoist and Goebbels!
        
        And yes “virtue signalling” of a kind. Comments made primarily to appeal to the ethos of a group. Goes on all the time.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:31am
      - Jack5
        
        SGA, got to give you credit for your diversion of the debate from a planned Islamic mass murder in Christchurch.
        
        But it can’t work. There’ll be another Islamic terrorist attack or plan in NZ or Australia, and more overseas.
        
        Basically, Islam isn’t compatible with Western society.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:49am
    - Scott
      
      Well I do know that if you are right wing and your name is Tommy Robinson you can be arrested, charged, tried and sent to jail all on the same day.
      You are then held in solitary confinement for months in a prison filled with Muslims.
      Those Muslims abuse you and shower your cell with excrement on a daily basis.
      You cannot eat properly because the Muslims are threatening to poison your food.
      
      And all this because you dared to report on Muslim rape gangs operating in your home town!
      
      Isn’t political correct justice a wonderful thing?
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:07am
      - SGA
        
        For heavens sake, Scott – we are talking about NZ. I was addressing an issue that you raised.
        
        Anyhow, a quick read suggests that Robinson’s “same day” incident was for contempt of court, so not that surprising.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:14am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    It’s a judicial experiment to see if they can stop him having crazy homicidal religious beliefs – they are only gambling with our lives so what harm can it do?
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:25am
  - Sofia
    
    The [Kiwi] teenager left school at 15, converted to Islam and became radicalised online – https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/101480988/kiwi-teenager-radicalised-online-planned-mass-killing-in-christchurch-for-allah?rm=m
    
    When sentenced media made much of the fact that …
    Among the conditions – which will apply for two years while the judge monitors his progress – is counselling by a member of the local Muslim community.
    
    Strangely, the current story not mention this, or any “progress” this Islamic counselling involves.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:31am
    - Jack5
      
      Sofia, no matter what you say, the young man, now aged 19, said his attack was “for Allah”.
      
      Earlier reports says he somewhere and somehow suffered post-traumatic stress disorder, and implied he is a refugee or is of a refugee family.
      
      New Zealand has had highly traumatised refugees before, but none has planned mass murder of the locals. This incident, and the terror plots in Melbourne, have all been by Muslims.
      
      Who fives a flying fuck about this would-be terrorist’s progress in counselling at the local mosque?
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:02am
      - freethinker
        
        Mu slime should be careful that us whiteys dont decide that if they make the rules we will play by them -boom!
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:49pm
- Longknives
  
  In the States they send people to Guantanamo Bay for much,much less.
  And rightfully so…
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:11am
sooty

3 million to decorate premier house?
No thanks. Cheaper to build a new one!
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November 28, 2018 8:03am
- mandk
  
  Good idea.
  The current one is really ugly as well.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:08am
- oldgolfer
  
  Phil will sort it out.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:09am
- VicParking
  
  Will Clarke have to mow the lawns.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:09am
- G152
  
  The pillock behind it was against it when the nats put the idea forward
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:24am
  - Tall Man
    
    Two faced liars.
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    the rest are just plain incompetent.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:49am
    - sooty
      
      Some are corrupt and others are incompetent!
      Some are just plain useless and lazy!
      There fixed for you.
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:29am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Demo it and turn it into 20x KiwiSlum™ and State houses, and put PM in one. She would be thrilled to be living cheek-by-jowl with the people she claims to be working for.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:29am
- Lance
  
  By the time the MSM are finished it will all be John Keys fault anyway
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:51am
- Tricati
  
  Must be a bloody big nanny flat now Jethro is going back to work
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:23am
cmm

Venezuela: Is it all just socialist incompetence?

Venezuela has the highest oil reserves in the world. Just kick out the gringo oil companies and sell them oil. Turn up the music and we dance and party into the next century. What can go wrong?

All fine, except….

Oil is not all the same. Oil has different grades. At the one end is oil described as “sweet” and “light”. These are the oils mainly found in Arabia, the Brent area between UK and Norway, Central USA, Africa and Pacific. At the other end are the “sour” and heavy oils (Gulf of Mexico etc), and of course the tar sands of Canada.

The light oils are easy to deal with. They flow easily. They have high volatility so are easy to refine and produce a lot of the yummy stuff: petrol, diesel and jet fuel with less of the muck. That means they are easy (and cheap) to transport and easy (and cheap) to refine. Refinery productivity is high.

The heavy oils are much harder to work with. They have many contaminants. They are a pig to transport and refine. Refinery productivity is low (and expensive). Nobody wants that muck in their pretty refineries and cute tankers.

Sweet vs sour is to do with sulphur etc. Sour oils need more processing (expensive) to meet emissions regulations etc., thus making the sour oils less valuable.

The standard oil price benchmark is for Brent Crude. The top shelf stuff. No surprise that price is way higher than the price for heavy sour oils. When there is an abundance of sweet light oils, you struggle to sell the other muck at any price, let alone profitably.

Thus, if you want to have an industry based on heavy sour oils you can’t just sell the crude. You also need to run ships that are prepared to transport it and refineries that will process it, then sell the refined products. That needs heavy investment, brainpower and good management.

When the oil companies were still in Venezuela they provided that infrastructure: they ran the ships, they ran the refineries. All the things that are hard to find in a socialist country.

So boot out the gringo oil companies and maintenance falls behind, plants fail, ships sink and eventually the industry crumbles to nothing and the music ends.

Of course there’s more. Does Venezuela really have the biggest oil reserves in the world or is that just a socialist fantasy to back up borrowing? If you look at a graph of oil reserves, you can see that they were mostly “found” since 2000, after the commies had taken over oil and the gringo oil companies were kicked out. Are the commies really 4x as good at finding oil, or does this oil only exist on paper?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Venezuela#/media/File:Venezuela_Oil_Reserves.png
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November 28, 2018 8:04am
- Swifty
  
  Good work cmm
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:07am
- igm
  
  Sounds like the greasy CoL policy in Taranaki.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:08am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I read CMM’s piece 90 minutes ago. Since then I have read the NZ Herald from front to back. Nothing in that rag is as informative as CMM’s piece. It is people like CMM who make this the best blog on the net. Thank you. Contributors like CMM make me a better informed person.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:53am
  - cmm
    
    If it was not for the quality on the blog, I would not contribute. For that, we must thank DPF.
    
    The Muttonheads and stephies et al will try piss in the well, but we can just ignore them.
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:42am
Woz

What a nasty little piece of work wee Pebbles is. I think that whole family has shown its true colors in recent times.

Of course, in reporting this, the Herald makes no mention of Pebs’s former employment with them as a gossip columnist.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12167284
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November 28, 2018 8:07am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  We have to defend free speech for nasty people in order to protect it for decent people. We certainly can’t rely on the government to properly decide what is decent and what is not.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:15am
  - Woz
    
    You’re absolutely right, Nigel. It’s one of the great dilemmas of life.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:15pm
- Tricati
  
  Couldn’t happen to a nicer snowflake – reap what you sow.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:25am
- Jazzby
  
  It’s a well known syndrome, shared by Verity Johnson, and Lizzie Marvelly, amongst others…..big mouth, small brain.
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:44pm
- freethinker
  
  Link doesn’t work or page removed perhaps?
  
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  November 28, 2018 3:57pm
wreck1080

We can rightly criticise labour for increasing taxes,

But, national were just as bad. Last time national promised no extra taxation they introduced the following extra taxation…

GST increase from 12.5% to 15%

new GST on items purchased online from overseas

new Telecommunications Levy
new Border Clearance Levy
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pital gains tax on houses sold after owning for less than two years

increased taxes on KiwiSaver

the 2012 ‘Paperboy’ tax

a Civil Aviation Authority fees increase
an additional fuel tax increase of 9 cents per litre, with annual CPI increases locked in for perpetuity

Road User Charges increased

tobacco excise whacked up

massive increases in ACC levies

new online company filing fees

a creeping expansion of the scope of Fringe Benefit Taxes;

“Netflix tax” on services, media or software purchased from an overseas online retailer.
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November 28, 2018 8:09am
- Inandout
  
  Massive decrease in rego levy.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:17am
- MT_Tinman
  
  I don’t (and won’t) vote National but the GST increase and corresponding income tax reduction was signalled before a General Election.
  
  I didn’t read the rest because your argument is faulty from the start.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:28am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “I don’t (and won’t) vote National”
    
    And here was I thinking that you were a pretty sensible person.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:38am
    - MT_Tinman
      
      Hell no.
      
      I don’t vote communist or fraudster either.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:03am
      - KevOB
        
        There ain’t much else remaining.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:34am
      - MT_Tinman
        
        There ain’t much else remaining.
        
        You’re not kidding there.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:55am
  - wreck1080
    
    John Key said the following in 2008…..
    
    “National is not going to be raising GST. National wants to cut taxes, not raise taxes.”
    
    He added that if the Government was “doing a half-decent job” of expanding the economy, a rise in GST “wouldn’t be happening, and that’s not on our agenda”.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:46am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Where were you hiding, my RUC’s went down.
  Income tax went down
  The “they did it too” argument only holds if you tell the truth.
  Labour put fuel taxes up about the same as National, BUT they have done it in ONE year not 9.
  My fuel price is actually up by 50% on last year, my business has to work an EXTRA week to get what I was getting last year, just because of fuel costs. No chance of hiring any one.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:35am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Didn’t employer and employee ACC levies come down?
    Didn’t the ACC component of rego’s come DOWN
    etc etc
    Truth please…anyone? anywhere?
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:09am
    - wreck1080
      
      Point is, National introduced a whole bunch of new taxes despite saying they wouldn’t.
      
      Why would you believe national now?
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:47am
  - wreck1080
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10667356
    
    Driving is set a cost New Zealanders more from October, with road user charges and fuel excise duty both due to increase, Transport Minister Steven Joyce announced today.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:33am
    - KevOB
      
      What next from Fraser House?
      
      When are we going to have a sensible explanation for killing off NZ gas supply in favour of imports?
      Do they propose to blow Taranaki up with hydrogen or just Shane Jones so he can float away?
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:37am
- Harkman
  
  “new GST on items purchased online from overseas” National planned on a $200 threshold, which excluded 90% of goods. Labour scrapped this and actually introduced a comprehensive tax. National did cut income taxes in a switch for GST. But yes they did increase some taxes (fuel, property amortization reduction).
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:09am
- KeaRea
  
  Labour made the same spurious list. Gst was offset and tax neutral. It was highly beneficial to broaden the base. Any right wing person who says it was bad is an idiot and not right wing.
  
  Most of the rest aren’t taxes.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:25am
sooty

A Winston is worth more than a Little!
Angry did not get pro union bill across the line without major changes! Man the unions are goingt o be pissed with you! Another thing turned to tits with your grubby little pinkys on all over it!
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November 28, 2018 8:10am
Sofia

Parliament Inquiry
“It is clear we need to assess culture and practice in this place and find out what we need to do to make Parliament a safe and healthy workplace.
“We encourage people to feed into the independent review that has been initiated.”

Perhaps, as just one suggestion, Parliament could look at mental ill-health and the attitude some Members have towards that, as is recorded in Hansard, Suffrage Day, September 19, 2018, General Debate –

… 22 days to try and find out what other people know: namely, who leaked on Mr Bridges. There are members over there that should be very nervous. I won’t look at them, or look where they should be, because if I do, then the suspicion will be cast on them without us getting the reward for disclosure. We are famous for disclosure, especially when it comes to the National Party’s sins …
The member—that’s Mr Bridges—needs to reveal to the public who the leaker is, or I will.
– Rt Hon Winston Peters, being sympathetically helpful in regard to Simon Bridges’ endeavour to determine which Member of the National Party is mentally un-well … one of them.
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November 28, 2018 8:10am
- cmm
  
  One bit of bullying and abuse they will never address is that directed to the taxpayer.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:18am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  But aren’t labour (especially maori) MP’s all backing conspicuous workplace bully Meka the muss? and didn’t Ardern take a month or two to do anything about her? Lots of talkie talkie, fuck all doey doey.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:37am
Longknives

On FB last night I read someone calling Simon Bridges a “Sexist, Hateful Bigot” because he stated that Santa Claus is a man.
Honestly? Has the World gone completely bonkers?

*I see our friends at The Standard have an entire Post attacking him on this issue- Jesus Wept!
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November 28, 2018 8:12am
- harvey wilson
  
  The standard is full of hateful bigoted people, I love it when they turn on each other for not being bigoted enough .
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:21am
- Philview
  
  The world hasn’t gone mad but we have a Coalition Government with extremist MPs obsessed with TERFs and reclaiming the C word. The average Kiwi will get fed up with this shit very quickly. I know a couple of people who don’t have the slightest interest in politics who are starting to have concerns about the Left wing fanatics in the Beehive.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:33am
  - Jazzby
    
    You may recall that in an election debate a few years back, Peter Dunne scored a huge hit by appealing to the simple idea of bringing “common sense” back into politics. I’ve never had much time for him, but he struck gold with that one.
    Perhaps National should push it too: there’s undoubtedly a groundswell of disaffection on the part of ordinary people, in the face of this increasingly inane stuff we’re getting from the unholy alliance of social misfits.
    Keep the message simple, keep it direct.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:52pm
  - Deadly pony
    
    What even is a TERF?
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:58pm
- Tall Man
  
  Father Christmas……nuff said.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:40am
- flipper
  
  Yes ‘knives…
  You are on target.
  I spoke to the Memsahib, daughters and grand daughters about Father Christmas. They were unanimous in saying male ….. unless the person is a trans sexual on various steroids and dugs to grow whiskers.
  
  In other words, a load of Standard pigs’ whiskers
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:40am
- Harkman
  
  See that Young National assault claim? That is the most obvious jack up I’ve seen.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:11am
- rockape
  
  Isnt he supposed to be Saint Nicholas or Father Christmas in the UK?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:24am
secondcumming

We had the in-laws over for dinner last night.
The ol’ man made an interesting prediction…. “that we wont see Jamie-Lee Ross back in the Debating Chamber before Christmas”. In fact he went on to say…. “he doubts we’ll see his rough head back in the House ever again”

I’ve got a hundy with him he’s wrong.
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November 28, 2018 8:13am
- sooty
  
  Hundy on which part, before chrissy or ever?
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:16am
- cmm
  
  My 50c sits with your hundy.
  
  I reckon JLR has lack of insight. ie. he lacks the mental clarity to realise he is broken.
  
  He is also a narcissist, so he wants to get back into parliament and be seen and make a noise.
  
  He also has heavy personal expenses and wants the big koha.
  
  He will not stand down voluntarily. He will only go when he is either forced out or elected out.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:22am
  - flipper
    
    JLR …. getting bad advice from people who have problems of their own.
    
    He (JLR) has zero credibility on anything and is now seen as nothing more than an unfortunate puppet ….on the end of strings pulled by a couple of folk with their own agenda.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:56am
  - KevOB
    
    Last seen he announced he won’t be back till the new year. He also looked like he may have been on meds. A somewhat reduced JLR.
    
    Let JLR recover in peace.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:43am
VicParking

The snowflakes in the USA are melting over the use of tear gas at the border. No mention that under Obama tear gas was used 80 times on the same border.
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November 28, 2018 8:14am
- sooty
  
  Snowflakes, should be glad it’s not bullets!
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:17am
- cmm
  
  But Obama’s teargas was cuddly teargas.
  
  For those not in the know, teargas is mean stuff. I have only been slightly gassed once when I got a puff while disposing of some expired grenades in the army. What I got was only a tenth of what a rioter would get and that was enough.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:24am
graham

I never, EVER, thought I would agree with Rachel Stewart on anything – but I do on this.

“Rachel Stewart: TERF a derogatory term to shut down debate”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166957

So, to hear Labour MP Louisa Wall use the word in a public (media excluded) meeting was enough to make me reach for my snake gators. She said, “My whole thing is I don’t want any f***ing TERFs at the Pride Parade.”

I can tell you, that as a lesbian who has never marched in a parade of any kind – I loathe the sound of brass – I now feel like turning up.

I mean, as I’m the ‘L’ in LGBTQIA+, I should be safe to do so, right? But what if Louisa Wall sees me? Will security turf me out? Will I be dragged down a dark alleyway and forced to watch endless reruns of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert?

This is the stupidity of the current Pride Parade debacle – a supposed “inclusionary” group which is excluding parts of its community for not subscribing to right-thought

Under the proposed new law, a man can call himself a woman without ever medically transitioning (most never do) and insert himself in female-only spaces such as changing rooms, women’s refuges, and prisons. Women would have absolutely no legal recourse to challenge such a move.

I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t want to be locked up alone in a cell all night with a hairy, muscly, sex-starved inmate of either gender – but particularly one with his full kit and caboodle intact.

Neither would I want my six-year-old niece to see a grown male stranger naked in the changing rooms at her local swimming centre. Why shouldn’t she be able to have a male-free space? And me too?

How about Laurel Hubbard competing straight-faced as a female in weightlifting? And all those other athletes around the world winning hands down against biological women? Is it fair to females, who’ve often trained their whole lives, only to come second to a biologically stronger athlete – no matter how they identify?

Exactly what many people here have said.

Parents, wanting to be best friends with their kids, are taking their son’s fixation with dolls as evidence that he’s really wanting to be female. In the UK alone, the number of kids being referred to the NHS’ gender-service unit has risen by 2,500 per cent over the past nine years.

As a kid I played with Tonka toys. Fortunately, my parents saw me as a tomboy, and indulged me by letting me drive the farm truck and tractor at a ridiculously young age. Thankfully, in the 1960s, the seeds of “gender confusion” had yet to be planted. (Not to mention health and safety).

It is well worth reading the entire opinion piece. It may well be the start of the Apocalypse, but I actually find myself in complete agreement with Rachel Stewart.
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November 28, 2018 8:20am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Graham, I’m afraid I can’t claim complete agreement although I at least (this time) understand the argument.
  
  That, in itself, is something to marvel over.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:35am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Someone on Twitter last week accused Rachel of being racist. I replied saying that whilst I disagreed with pretty much every column she has written (although a couple of her more recent efforts have been thought-provoking), I’d never witnessed any racism.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:38am
- mandk
  
  I think we need to start a Campaign for Objective Fact (COF).
  
  A male cannot transition into a female, or vice versa. They can only to pretend to do so.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:44am
- hullkiwi
  
  Graham, in a bid to paint themselves as the majority the alphabet soup brigade have expanded their “inclusiveness” to include every known minority. This is so they can fight the oppressors. In doing this they have done 2 things:
  1. Made an oppressed minority out of the oppressors who are white; middle class, hetro, males; and
  2. Made their caravan of diverse oppressed minorities so diverse, that there are members with conflicting options about each group. So, of course tyou are now getting spats within their “community”. It can only end with the whole thing imploding, much as the parade is doing.
  
  Finally, my sympathies to you, agreeing with Rachael Stewart is not good for anyone’s health. Suggest you go and lie down for a while. Either that or the world as we know it has been turned on its head.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:58am
  - graham
    
    To be fair hullkiwi, it is the first time in a very long time I have agreed with her.
    
    And I’m one of these people who tries not to be absolute and say if someone is a lefty, or a Greenie, or whatever, then NO WAY ON GOD’S EARTH can I support them EVER. If Rachel Stewart says something I agree with then I can live with that.
    
    (Probably won’t happen again for a very long time tho’)
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:36am
- Longknives
  
  Shockingly I actually agree with everything Rachel Stewart writes on this issue. (I detest the woman)
  The thought of my daughter having to share a dressing room at the swimming pool with a drug fucked, sexually confused, mentally ill man scares the living shit out of me!
  Maybe I am a ‘TERF’??
  Christ I need a drink…
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:15am
Maggy Wassilieff

Chris Trotter on the Case of the Professor & the Chinese
http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-case-of-problematic-professor.html
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November 28, 2018 8:21am
- Philview
  
  I have read before allegations that a fit Rod Donald may have got a bit more than food poisoning. I worry about this lady.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:43am
- niggly
  
  It’s amazing to think that potentially (and until confirmed otherwise) we have Chinese government spies operating with impunity in NZ (breaking into Professor Brady’s house and stealing her electronic devices), yet this COL Government is saying nothing (and appears to be doing nothing when Professor Brady has been asking for help as she is now afraid).
  
  It seems unless the spies are French, Israeli, or American (CIA/NSA etc), the gutless COL Government will turn a blind eye.
  
  It’s bad enough for NZ’ers that Jacinda is a weak and ineffectual leader/PM, but the trouble is potentially the Chinese Govt not only already know this, they are already exploiting it because they know they can “get away with it” …
  
  (And Winston shares the blame too, for “selecting” the inexperienced Jacinda as PM and for also staying silent about this issue).
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:46am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    As the rainbow warrior demonstrated, there is nothing we can do about big countries, particularly superpowers, fucking with us. Pushing back just gets them hurting you economically. We live with it and do what we can to protect ourselves without giving public offence to the bullies (that they will feel compelled to retaliate for).
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:42am
    - Jack5
      
      Bryce Edwards has a round-up of news on the Brady-China affair:
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12167276
      
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      November 28, 2018 12:29pm
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not read or hear that the police have closed their files on Prof Brady’s accusations ?
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:42pm
- Simon
  
  The CCP corruption of NZ political class is in the open. It didnt use to be. But now it has moved on to sure there is CCP corruption but it is for the good of NZ.
  
  Labo & National corrupted by the vile CCP but dont worry because trade or some shit.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:49am
- Justitia
  
  Yes Maggy, saw this cowardly effort last night. Yesterday morning Stuff published drivel by Wellington leftie Armstrong trying to downplay China’s human rights abuses. And today the Herald editorial takes a similar line to Trotter. The Left Wing commentariat are circling the wagons around Comrade Cindy in an apparently orchestrated campaign.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:00am
- KevOB
  
  I have read the Professor’s paper “Magic Weapons: China’s political influence activities under Xi Jinping”.
  
  She is attached to a USA uni as well. It is thickest, densest writing I have encountered. She seems to be running a partisan campaign USA v. China.
  I have to question her fitness for anything using reason. Now she is complaining Chinese operatives have been sneaking into her garage and letting down her tyres.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:03am
  - Jack5
    
    Can you give us the link, please KevOB, so we can have a read?
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:08pm
    - KevOB
      
      https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/magic-weapons-chinas-political-influence-activities-under-xi-jinping
      
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      November 28, 2018 5:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        Thank you, Kevin.
        
        That’s an interesting alleged comment from the Chinese diplomat, comparing NZ-China links to Albania-China links in Mao days.
        
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        November 28, 2018 8:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Environmentally Conscious Cycling in Wellington on a typical Spring day

https://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/108912279/wellington-cyclist-snapped-wearing-a-cardboard-box-to-shelter-from-the-rain
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November 28, 2018 8:25am
- krazykiwi
  
  One puff of wind and he’ll get hit by a bus. That would damage the bike and the box, which would be a pity.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:53am
- Lance
  
  That is kinda funny, in a ridiculous kind of way
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:03am
- kevn
  
  @Maggy… The ultimate in re CYCLING?
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:41am
KeaRea

https://m.medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html

IQ averages in the west have dropped a minimum of 14 points since 1970. We’re dropping at 7 points per generation.

The authors of course are PC tools about it.

Females in the workplace and mass dysgenic immigration from the third world and actually also Asia where it turns out liars lie about everything including their average IQs which revert to the mean over time.

Feminism is destroying us. The most intelligent women have no children. They then force and enforce measures to ensure no one else does either via ludicrous laws of gynocracy.

We live already in idiocracy.

Only the alt right is going to have running water and sanitation in the west, in the years to come.

The infrastructure of the west especially in the United Atates and Europe will never return to what it once was. Our societies are now totally incapable of either creating new commensurate infrastructure or of maintaining that which we inherited. The total break down of our civilizations will continue apace. 7 points per 25 years.

Globalism is going to send us to the dark ages.

I’d love to hear counter arguments instead of see outraged downticks.

Why am I wrong. What defence is there for this total destruction of everything in order to maintain this ludicrous veneer of equalitarianism? All men are not created equal. At best they deserve equal opportunitiy. But George Mason was right and Jefferson and Franklin wrong.

When is it going to be acceptable to point the obvious.
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November 28, 2018 8:30am
- Southern Raider
  
  Just as well the Jews are keeping the IQ up with their above average intelligence isn’t it
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:37am
  - Tall Man
    
    Did you see the doco about that?
    
    Quite interesting and it reinforces the value of reading to and with your children.
    
    Something that I am sure is a high priority in low decile schools………..
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:54am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      In the Nature/Nurture debate the results are in – sadly it’s mostly Nature. Parents can mess children up through abuse or lack of care, but research suggests that they can do almost nothing to improve their intelligence or motivation/conscientiousness beyond their mostly genetically determined baseline. Once they reach adulthood their smarts and conscientiousness will stabilise at whatever was dictated by their genes.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:50am
      - stephieboy
        
        UN, sources please for your sweeping claims regarding the Nature-Nurture debate?.
        
        You can include facts that demonstrate your brain is infinitely superior to those neolithic tribesmen in the Andaman Island that made news recently.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:58am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Sources please for the reasons for your idiocy.
        
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        November 28, 2018 12:46pm
  - KeaRea
    
    Except the 2 sd superiority is a ridiculous lie based on elite stacks of unrepresentative subsets and nepotism, and each jew due to the doctrine of tikkun olam and conscious and subconscious in group favour strategies comes with 20 or 30 IQ 80 individuals. There would be no ‘melting pot’ myth absent Israel Zangwill. There would be no feminism or critical theory absent Lev Bronstein. So pithy. Just silly.
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:50am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      KeaRea,
      Your name is interesting. Are there also KeaFront, KeaSide(L) and KeaSide (R) iterations?
      Or even a dipolar DiaRea?
      
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      November 28, 2018 5:34pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Just as well the Jews are keeping the IQ up with their above average intelligence isn’t it
    
    You really are a Jewish Supremicist aren’t you Southern Raider?
    
    Jewish so called “intellect” is just all smoke and mirrors pushed by the Tribe and really is nothing but nepotism and a ruthless evolutionary psychology/in-built group preference.
    
    Read Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique.
    
    Take technology VC companies for exampe where I’ve had a lot of experience. The way Jews managed to get control of companies once they had passed the initial difficult stage was a sight to see. If ownership and executive positions were not allocated to the Tribe you’d find that finance would dry up, reports appear in the technology press quoting unnamed ‘industry insiders’ to the effect that the technology was experiencing ‘unanticipated problems’ etc.
    
    Saw numerous instances where the Goys who did all the grunt work, conceived the idea, developed and tested the technology, put their houses up as collateral to finance the R&D, only to be forced out with just a pittance. Facebook is of course the piece de resistance example but believe me there are hundreds of other smaller ones.
    
    Just like the debt as money system, it is nothing but the behaviour of a parasite.
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/11/smack-jaw-hits-table.html
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:53am
  - realityczech
    
    Southern what other attributes can we attribute to people based on their religion?
    
    Lies, manipulation, contempt for non members of the cult?
    
    Or only good things like a high IQ?
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  There is help in hand for you, KeaRea. From your link,
  
  5 herbs for dementia,
  
  https://www.nutreance.com/articles/redimind?utm_medium=google_display&utm_campaign=redimind_gb_custom_intent&utm_source=m.medicalxpress.com&utm_term=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx67Er7P13gIVV4hoCh3OaQBeEAEYASAAEgJenfD_BwE
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:27am
- GoVege
  
  It ain’t feminism to blame Kea….rea.
  It’s male chauvinism!
  Males from sexist cultures refuse to support their legions of kids, leaving it to white guys…I mean “the state”….to pay for these dorks’ kids as well as their own one or two.
  How many Caucasian women have 10 or more kids?
  I have met many women with 10 plus kids and none were Pakeha.
  Nor were the guys who impregnated them, then shot through.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:14am
Southern Raider

I see Tongan students now claiming our education system needs fixing because they fail because of its “whiteness”
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November 28, 2018 8:35am
- Tall Man
  
  Easily fixed…
  
  Fuck off back to Tonga.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:58am
  - Wired-one
    
    ?
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:27am
- Harkman
  
  I don’t see Asian kids failing, I wonder ?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:13am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Lacist!!
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:51am
    - Swifty
      
      Heh
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:56am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Meh!
        
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        November 28, 2018 1:56pm
- realityczech
  
  Can’t hear you over all the screaming and hysteria about how bad things are for you Jews.
  
  If you don’t like our Pacifica people you can go live in the racist state of Israel where your repugnant and vile views are considered normal.
  
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  November 28, 2018 5:52pm
- DigNap15
  
  Who invented education?
  How come asians and indians do well under our white system?
  How come Africans in Zimbabwe speak beautiful English and are well educated?
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:28pm
mandk

Why is a publicly funded organisation (NZAF gets 92% of its money from the MoH) giving out advice that could endanger people’s lives?

“”Both parties would need to be bleeding profusely for transmission to occur – a very unlikely playtime occurrence,” the NZAF said.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2018/11/88-percent-of-kiwis-don-t-want-a-sexual-relationship-with-someone-with-hiv.html
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November 28, 2018 8:38am
Captain Mainwaring

Dear God, Wade-Brown is thinking of having a crack at the Regional Council.
These socialist leeches are like a cork in a toilet – they keep popping back up.
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November 28, 2018 8:42am
- MCos
  
  Shock Horror
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:49am
- Wired-one
  
  All aboard the ratepayer gravy train, chooo chooo…
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:28am
- Paulus
  
  Before Wade Brown can join the Wellington Regional Council she will have to show her Taxi Chits.
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:45pm
  - sooty
    
    Why should she have to show her tits?
    
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    November 28, 2018 7:32pm
KeaRea

https://postmeritocracy.org

Here is the manifesto of the new Transvestite Queen of Git Hub, who is destroying open source code and open source software via her SJW codes of conduct.

It’s called a manifesto for ‘post meritocracy’.

Open source code makes our world run. It’s destruction by this creature is a monumental disaster. And of course, no one cares. I’ve branched several of my own projects since this orc was given a platform.

Note the similarity of Coralines manifesto to Jacinda Ardern’s implied principles. Both are totally vapid dilletantes and charlatans. But at least Coraline is honest.

Eradicate SJWs from all organisations. They are terrorists. Enjoy reading the manifesto to post meritocracy. Compare and contrast with the Labour party.
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November 28, 2018 8:44am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Worry not, KeaRea
  
  I see there is no Chinese or Russian translations provided.
  (Have you tried running the Hindi version through a translator… quite funny!)
  
  I can’t imagine this will have any impact on old codgers like hubby who just do whatever they like with Open Source code and send it out into the ether to be mucked around with by other old codgers…
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:16am
  - Jack5
    
    Presumably the Open Source coders are the good folk who create fine free software like …. Gimp, Open Office, Firefox, Audacity, and VLC.
    
    If so, well done done Mr/Dr Wassilieff.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:27pm
RW Capitalist

More attempts to distract, using the “but they did it too” arguement.
Inquiry into parliamentary bullying:
Going back to 2014.
Why?
Because one of theirs assaulted a staff member?
Young Nat. in the News after trying to drunkenly kiss a 17 year old in this flat.
Not quite the same as sexual assault (putting your hand down the pants of children (under 16)) at an under age drinking party supplied by the Labour party, where Labour MP’s were present.
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November 28, 2018 8:45am
Keeping Stock

Does anyone else see the irony of Trevor Mallard launching an inquiry into bullying and harassment in Parliament?

He really is living proof of the old saying “poacher turned gamekeeper” Or perhaps it could be said that it takes a bully to know one.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mallard-and-henare-wrestled-on-ground-during-fight-2007102511

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5638025/Whistleblower-wins-defamation-appeal
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November 28, 2018 8:45am
- Southern Raider
  
  And being supported by Marama Davidson. That made bitch screams at counter protesters, all people c@@nts and apparently claims we need to stomp out bullying
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:47am
- Manolo
  
  The whole thing is vomit-inducing, I reckon.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:54am
- Sofia
  
  Mr Mallard said the review wouldn’t be a blame exercise and wouldn’t reopen past cases so as to avoid revictimisation.
  
  If they cannot examine past cases, what evidence exactly will any report be based on.
  That would seem to involve not only ‘irony’ but also ‘mental dissonance’ or simply ‘oxymoronacy’.
  
  Jami-Lee Ross emphatically denies that he was the original leaker of Bridges’ expenses, although some suggest the apparent silliness of the leak may confirm just how mentally unwell the leaker was.
  However, if in fact Ross was the target rather than Bridges, would it indicate a more dangerous attitude – like disregard of the Party Leader, collateral damage in the attempt (successful) to get at another MP.
  
  [Mallard] said bullying and harassment were unacceptable in any workplace and the review was designed to work out what could be done to improve the parliamentary workplace.
  
  How does Mallard distinguish between “domestic violence” and “personal interests” that aren’t simply “set aside” (as the prayer still suggests), but spill over into the Parliamentary environment as “bullying and harassment”? and
  
  Does “bullying and harassment” include so-called “dirty politics” – tactics that do not accord with truth, transparency, integrity or reality?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:03am
- kowtow
  
  Back in the day , he was featured on the Holmes show , off to “confront” a motel owner about something or other. By golly that fellow is an arrogant bully and thug .
  
  This stuff piece is a bullshit , anti white racist apologist lie.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2348613/Motel-bans-town
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:52am
- waldonz
  
  How the heck can a MP who has assaulted another MP in Parliament get the speakers gig?
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:15am
- Prince
  
  Simpler description – hypocrite.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:42am
- Paulus
  
  Will the enquiry include the Speaker and Clare Curren, and the relationship between a Minister and a Stenographer ?
  Will it include the Press Gallery and ex MPs ?
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:48pm
- realityczech
  
  This is code for – we are going to attack men.
  
  Women are far more often bullies and are especially nasty.
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:51pm
secondcumming

Just got a bit of a ‘panic call’ from my sister-in-law.

She was cleaning out her 15-year-old sons bedroom this morning, and came across some bondage gear and a stack of *Fetish* mags hidden in his wardrobe. She asked me what I thought she should do?

As I said to her, “Well, I’m no expert, but I wouldn’t fucking spank him”
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November 28, 2018 8:47am
- Biscuit
  
  secondcumming, tell your sis-in-law to look further.
  
  The bondage gear and fetish mags may just be a ‘front’ so she is fooled into thinking her offspring is (relatively) normal.
  
  Further back in the closet may be far more extreme stuff – like the Labour Party Manifesto or, gasp, tickets to hear Golly explain just how wonderful Golly is…
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:43am
  - secondcumming
    
    Well, if that were the case bikkie……a bloody good spanking would have appropriate! 🙂
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:54am
    - Biscuit
      
      Hire Meka Whaitiri!
      
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      November 28, 2018 10:10am
Manolo

The messiah’s curse:
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2018/11/26/watch-six-years-ago-obama-promised-to-buy-a-chevy-volt-now-it-is-dead/
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November 28, 2018 8:52am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Solindra couldn’t supply enough solar panels?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:27am
Poppa

We are all doomed!!!

The sea level is rising so fast that we will all consumed by the ocean, so says Stuff. Climate change of course.

Well I wish it would hurry up so my simple abode about a mile from the sea will have a waterfront outlook.

I did note that buried in one of the articles was an admission that the land is sinking. So much for sea level rise.
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November 28, 2018 8:56am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And even if there is a bit of sea level rise it’s sure to be caused by the billions of tonnes of silt that comes down the likes of the Amazon, the Ganges, the Mississippi, the Yangtze etc. and settles on the ocean floor.
  Global warming – not so much.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    And even if there is a bit of sea level rise it’s sure to be caused by the billions of tonnes of shit that comes down the likes of the Amazon, the Ganges, the Yangtze etc……..
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:56am
- hullkiwi
  
  As opposed to Sweden, where the land has been rising since the end of the last ice age…..
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:12am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  About 2mm/year, of which about 1mm/year is icecaps melting. Big. Fucking. Deal.
  
  Adding 1m of fill on land costs about $30/m², and buys you 500 years at current rates of rise. Urban land is worth $500-5000/m². To lift a typical house section by 1m would only cost $20k.
  
  So if your land is threatened just require that every new build (typically 100 year intervals) has to have a ground floor that is 500-1000mm higher, and fill in land with a little extra dirt
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:59am
KeaRea

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/11/neoliberal-despair.html?m=1

This is absolutely true and I can attest to the generation gap between myself and the best of boomers with whom I am affiliated.

We are at the end of universalism. Universalism is predicated upon tabula rasa equalitarianism. The premise of universalism is wrong. Therefore universalism is wrong.

“Both white American liberalism and white American conservatism are dying, because both ideological perspectives are fundamentally dependent upon the homogeneous majority white population that existed pre-1965. Note that neither the liberal nor the conservative ideology have ever taken root anywhere outside the United States despite the USA’s global cultural influence. That’s why they will not survive post-American US politics; neither holds any appeal to Diversity.”

“The big difference between Generation Z and its predecessors is that their knowledge of identity politics is real and formative, whereas that of the older generations is mostly symbolic and theoretical. The Boomers, Generation Xers, and Millennials love to feel that they are helping poor unfortunate minorities through their virtue-signaling, whereas Generation Z looks around and realizes that they are in the minority themselves and they are surrounded by a Diversity that hates, envies, and fears them.”

That is brilliant.

I would like civic nationalists like Classical Liberal to rebut the premises and the formulation of that argument. Why is Theodore Beale wrong and yiu are right despite all the evidence to the contrary?

Why do you observe developments like the end of free speech in Australia, the attempts to end it in New Zealand, and refuse to countenance that is the inevitable result of populations of putative citizens with no tradition of free speech?

Civic nationalists are idiocrats. They have to be removed from the right.

The days of the pleasant myths are swiftly drawing to a close. Generation Zyklon knows instinctively what it faces. That is why the diversity wars are inevitable.

I hate to be annoying but this is quite an important theme. Your individualised experience, your wonderful neighbour or cousin, is as relevant and sophist as Jacinda Ardern saying NZ had a poverty crisis because, see, here is this one individual I can use to run a spurious specific to general induction.
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November 28, 2018 8:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It might help if you wrote this again in bog-standard Kiwispeak, so I could understand it.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:23am
  - KevOB
    
    It likes tax law every other word is loaded with a definition in some place else. Technical research papers are clearer than political speak.
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:20am
- Classic Liberal
  
  “inevitable result of populations of putative citizens with no tradition of free speech? ”
  
  It depends on to what extent immigrants’ next generations will welcome free speech. A population with a strict theocratic world view has proven to be problematic in Europe.
  
  But it’s about a theocratic world view, not about race – plenty of white extremists. That’s probably where we disagree.
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:31pm
  - KeaRea
    
    ‘A theocratic world view’.
    
    You’ve been reading Peterson. That means a system of government where a religous insitution is the source if power and priests the wielders.
    
    Unless you do what he does and pretend words have no meaning, theocratic world view is most certainly not the reason.
    
    China isn’t run by Priests. Neither is Latin America. Neither is Somalia.
    
    The Italian City States brought about the renaissance. They were arguably theocratic according to the actual definition.
    
    It’s a very poor invalid explanation.
    
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    November 28, 2018 3:09pm
Evadne

The End is Nigh, according to Stuff front page headlines this morning:

+ Beach Roads under threat
Right now, the sea is advancing on the tens of thousands of people who live within 50cm of the high tide mark. And it won’t stop

+ Suburb fate: swallowed by sea?
Climate change could see an entire Lower Hutt suburb engulfed by sea level rise in just 80 years.

+Quick! Save the Planet
Despair isn’t the worst reaction to climate change. Complacency might be.

+ Worst climate change denial myths – debunked by experts

+ World failing to cut emissions

AND THEN there’s this:

+ Waterfront site for Welly arena

Looks like everything will be OK, then.
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November 28, 2018 9:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Don’t forget the Dunedin City Council Waterfront Vision:
  http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/your-council/council-projects/waterfront
  
  or the Auckland Waterfront Stadium
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/107941275/plans-for-18-billion-auckland-waterfront-stadium-unveiled
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:28am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Or the CRL.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:48am
  - kowtow
    
    The DCC are the epitome of stupid , hypocritical liars.
    
    They want to spend a fortune on sea front development , a new hospital on reclaimed land and at the same time are telling the poor folk of South D to prepare for eventual “climate evacuation”.
    
    You couldn’t make it up.
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:02am
- stephieboy
  
  Leading Climate change denier Christopher Monckton on Sea Level Rise,
  
  https://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths_arg.htm
  
  LOL
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:32am
  - Morrissey
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Monckton? You’d have to be a fucking idiot to believe a word coming from the mouth of that loon.
    
    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/jordan-williams-fertile-mind-was.html
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:35am
    - Morrissey
      
      Twenty flat-earther, moon-landing-denying, science “skeptics” have downticked this to show their bewildered support for Lord Loon.
      
      Quelle surprise….
      
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      November 28, 2018 11:16am
      - mandk
        
        Are you really surprised that people downtick you, when your favourite mode of dialogue is to throw around gratuitous insults?
        
        In your own words (from a comment below):
        “You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron.”
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:46am
      - Morrissey
        
        Did you see what that oaf had posted? It was moronic. Fucking moronic.
        
        And, contrary to your assertion, I rarely abuse most people so brazenly. As you rightly point out, it is gratuitous. I only use such horrible language for people that deserve it. Like Whaleoil’s hapless manservant Jordan Williams, and Garth “The Knife” McVicar, and that humorless old goat Cap’n Mainwaring.
        
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        November 28, 2018 11:53am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I regard it as a badge of honour that I can so easily wind up the most obnoxious poster on this blog.
        
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        November 28, 2018 12:51pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The latest alarmist story is that the global warming is going to plunge us in to an ice age because of the Gulf Stream shutting down.
      
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      November 28, 2018 12:28pm
      - Jack5
        
        It’s Russian scientists who are warming that there will be an Ice Age within 15 years – but because of sun spots, not carbon emissions on Earth.
        
        https://www.technocracy.news/russian-scientists-predict-ice-age-within-15-years-because-sun-is-cooling/
        
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        November 28, 2018 4:12pm
MCos

An amusing tweet https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1067364193907744768
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November 28, 2018 9:17am
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

Who, in their right mind, would call their kid LUDO ?
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November 28, 2018 9:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Scots, Italians, French folk
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:02am
- hullkiwi
  
  …and look what grown up Ludo is doing today. Planning to screw up central Auckland…
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:25am
- MrTips
  
  Boz Scaggs
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:58am
Biscuit

secondcumming, it may be a ‘contraction’.

Dunno if you knew him but one of my fave British TV broadcasters was Sir Ludovic Henry Coverley Kennedy (1919-2009).

Back when he was operational, mind, there were broadcasters worthy of naming your sprog after…

Not these days, eh?
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November 28, 2018 9:38am
KeaRea

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qejMBqzCD50&t=1309s

Beale on the border caravans in Mexico.

Now grown to 20 thousand souls.

This is the moment of truth for Trump’s presidency and the west.

If Trump does not act, it is over. There will be no reason to support him. No one else will act. We will go the way of the Native American Indians.

In the end, if any semblance of civilization is going to survive, invaders are going to have to be killed at the borders until they stop. Coming.

And the propaganda will be immense. But it doesn’t matter.

None of the 85 million people who have invaded the US or the millions who have invaded Australia want to destroy us. They just want a better life for themselves**

They don’t intentionally destroy human capital. They don’t intentionally destroy welfare states. They don’t intentionally destroy enlightenment values. They don’t intentionally catalyse new and old diseases. They don’t intentionally destroy history. They just want a better life for themselves.

It’s the same failures of leadership seen throughout history. The Native American Indians should have sunk all the ships and killed every European they saw. They didn’t. Now most of them don’t exist. It will be the exact same.

Yes, masss deportations are going to happen. Two of the largest ever occurred in living memory – the partition of India, and the mass deportation of over 15 million ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe post war. The United States banned Chinese immigration for decades which they need to do again. Eisenhower also deported 1 million Mexicans. So deportations are absolutely both realistic and required.

If Trump does nothing, no one will.

He had to do it. He has to order the military to shoot these people and detain media attempting to exploit defence of the nation, or its over.

Anyone who thinks that’s wrong, just understand all we need to do is get to the moral level of the Jews in Israel defending their borders in Gaza.

And once the act is done, people will stop coming. And if they keep coming, they keep getting shot until they stop.

Otherwise it’s over. Civil war will be inevitable. And US civil war means we get Chinese social credit systems sooner rather then later.

I’d love a civnat to tell me why I am wrong, the Jews are wrong and Lee Kwan Yu was wrong and Deng Xiaoping was wrong. Why are you and David Brools right?
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November 28, 2018 9:40am
- KevOB
  
  Does stealing someone else’s country make for a better life if you don’t have employment?
  
  Magnifying 5,000 into 20,000 in the space of week suggests a planned invasion with the help of many others.
  
  The right to occupy another person’s territory is contrary to biology. Plants and animals have defence mechanisms to protect their living resources.
  
  In an bid to find an undefined solution the COL’s advisors want open immigration to NZ. Housing has been solved by burning Taranaki grass with hydrogen and mixing the ashes with beach sand to make mud huts.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:35am
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    Heard that Soros is providing bank debit cards to the UN Refugee Organisation who then hand out to the demonstrators who can the charge their mobile phones etc.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:53pm
- Morrissey
  
  You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:27am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron…M Breen says, staring at himself in the mirror, keenly aware that the world agrees with his assessment.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:39pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Calling all KB Alt righters and moral Gestapo. This needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency

From TM,

It would appear National handling of this is no different from labour once exposed.

A member of the Young Nationals accused of inappropriately touching a teenage woman after the group’s Christmas function a week ago learned he was suspended by the party only after Newsroom broke the story yesterday of the police investigation.

National had claimed it followed all correct procedures following the incident. The victim had been led to believe the man had already been blacklisted from party events.

But earlier yesterday morning after Newsroom published details of the case, the man had received an email from National’s general manager Greg Hamilton telling him a complaint had been made to the police and the party was temporarily cancelling his membership and barring him from events.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/11/27/340389/young-nat-suspe
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November 28, 2018 9:40am
- BananaLlama
  
  Why are you so obsessed with the Alt Right. I notice those on the left of politics are their biggest fans. It isn’t even a New Zealand based ideology.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:44am
- KevOB
  
  Death throes?
  
  Turning up the heat this way invites retaliation. The outcome of the Labour youth frolics sex-booze camp will not go forgotten. It’s been reported as too woody to ignore the hard push.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:46am
KeaRea

Lots of Kiwibloggers have a romanticised view actually of the Chinese. ‘Wonderful hard working peaceful industrious net tax payers’ – yes, all true to some degree.

But Asian values come with Asian collectivism.

Please read.an understand what I mean by social credit:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-19/communist-china-moves-control-billions-through-social-credit

Real time monitoring for social compliance where scores are impacted by internet browsing, associations, movements, books read, and utterances made. Low scores entail total loss of access to public systems, employment and opportunities. In cashless zones it means total loss of access to credit and money. No job. No ability to get on a bus. Can’t catch a train. No access to public facilities.

The problem with living in an ant nest is that it’s clean and tidy but the drones can’t leave and can’t change their state. We don’t want to live in a bugman world with bugman leadership.

Because this is what they want for us:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-19/democratic-2020-candidate-pushes-us-govt-sponsored-social-credit-system-chinas

Andrew Yang a DNC presidential candidate wants to introduce digital social credit in the United States. Its also coming to Australia.

Your access to information will be determined by your slavishness.

Its the desired model of the EU Commission as well.

So we are beleaguered. We can have cleanliness and efficiency alongside Asian repression and uniformity. We can have Islamic filth and stasis. We can habe Latino corruption. Or African chaos. Or we can have our own nations.

And we will. In the end, everyone is going to have to go back. Because science, history and reality are all in conformance with the Alt Right which is inevitable. And it’s not dark and unpleasant. Just necessary. And as Aristotle said in De Interpretatione “if it is impossible for something not to happen it is necessary for it to happen. Everything that will be, therefore, happened necessarily”.

It is impossible for all these conflicts not to eventuate. Thus it is necessary that they do. The earlier the better for everyone.

We don’t want Chinese style social credit. They can do as they wish there. Not here.

That’s what social credit is. And it is live, now.

Okay. Out.
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November 28, 2018 10:02am
- OTGO
  
  Social Credit has already begun in the West. Left aligned social media sites have banned conservative speakers and commentators from their platforms because of their right wing opinions. It is only the beginning.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:12am
Huevon

Jordan Peterson is coming to NZ in February 2019. I just got my ticket. A bit on the steep side, but I’ve listened to enough if his material for free that I’m happy to throw him a few bucks. Bonus if I get to see some deranged lefties having meltdowns outside the venue.
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November 28, 2018 10:06am
- KeaRea
  
  Please read Jordanetics. Peterson is a charlatan. See him by all means. But don’t put faith in his deepak chopra tier scientology tier 12 path way.
  
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  November 28, 2018 10:16am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Both the political left and Alt Right hate Jordan Peterson as well.
    Starting to notice a pattern Kiwiblog?
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:52am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      I suggest you read Peterson essay on the Jewish Question and the top rated replies starting with the one below by “The Drogger”:
      
      https://jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/#comment-3820534634
      
      Once you’ve read both, let me know your thoughts on how “smart” and intellectually honest Peterson is.
      
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      November 28, 2018 10:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD TWO, this captures the tone of your bigoted and bird brain colleagues with the first post
        
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        Alex Fontana • 8 months ago
        Juden Petersen is a lying coward, here’s my take https://alexfontana.wordpre… also check out my review of Douglass Rushkoff’s Nothing Sacred: The Truth About Judaism in which a member of the tribe affirms that the “Jewish conspiracy” is real, but that it is for our own good because they are preforming Tikklum Olam. Ask yourself would Peterstien refute this or E Michael Jone’s work on the Jews? https://alexfontana.wordpre…
        
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        November 28, 2018 12:20pm
Fletch

An Aussie bloke (with an impressive beard) takes on the bullshit that is the gender wage gap argument and puts it to rest once and for all. Contains frequent use of the ‘F’ word, but somebody had to say this –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izda5tAgy3s
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November 28, 2018 10:11am
KeaRea

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/teenage-girl-feared-kidnapped-police-arrest-suspect/amp/

Yeah this Christian girl in Israel was found cut up into little pieces in a garbage can subsequent to this story. The reason why the Israel Times won’t specify the identity of the suspect which they routinely do if it is a muslim is because she was murdered by Jewish Irgun style fanatics.

Jews need to stop murdering Christians for no reason other then their profound irrational hatred of the lord Jesus Christ.

That said, their Gaza polices are both necessary and expedient.

Okay now done.
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November 28, 2018 10:14am
Maggy Wassilieff

Cats and their sinister political purpose
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/shortcuts/2018/nov/27/why-populists-adore-cats-and-use-them-in-their-political-propaganda
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November 28, 2018 10:33am
dime

This garbage Air NZ video.

I saw it a couple of times last week when I was away.

My god.

What talentless losers.

As for the girl dressed as a boy – BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

anyway, i decided to google the girl dressed as a boy. i found the name and she has a wiki page.

im getting old cause as i read it, it kept referring to her as “their”, i thought I had found the fucking band name. then it clicked.

what the hell were Air NZ thinking?? why are they jumping on the tranny bandwagon? to appeal to who? are they trying to be hip?

you gotta hear this chick rap lol my god. i could crack my knuckles with more rhythm.. ive heard cats fuck with more harmony…

i gotta say – shes a lame attempt at a tranny too. at least with the guy, they get the tits etc she just put on the clothing a nerd would wear and cut her hair. weak.
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November 28, 2018 10:39am
- MCos
  
  I don’t really think those young hip hop dancers give a flying fuck what old farts like you (or me) think.
  Having said that the AirNZ safety video looks like something they put together as a contractual obligation.
  
  Whenever I feel like grizzling about ‘the music young people are listening to today’ I remember the sixties when I first heard that expression.
  I used to bristle when people wailed and whined about the Beatles & the Stones.
  Imagine if they’d done a safety video!!
  It’s easy if you try.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:05am
  - Longknives
    
    MCos- It’s a bit of a push comparing Air NZ’s ‘Rapping Tranny’ to The Beatles and The Stones.
    
    The Stones (even in their old age) grossed $200 million on their last tour.
    I’ll hazard a guess the rapping Tranny hasn’t grossed $200 yet…(I can’t even see people paying $2 at the Student Union to listen to that)
    
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    November 28, 2018 11:24am
  - dime
    
    dude, they cant sing or rap.
    
    plenty of talented kids out there making music i dont like lol but they have talent.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:04pm
    - stephieboy
      
      dime, examples?
      
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      November 28, 2018 12:22pm
      - dime
        
        ill find you a playlist when you apologise for saying I couldn’t handle a black person in the Whitehouse.
        
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        November 28, 2018 1:07pm
      - Longknives
        
        Dime- At least he isn’t asking for pics of ‘Little Dime’ today…
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:28pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  “I’ve heard cats fuck with more harmony”
  Brilliant!!!
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:06am
- Longknives
  
  Dime- Seriously I thought that rapping Transgender thing was Scout Barbour Evans?
  Is it not?? Jesus they could be twins!
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:20am
  - dime
    
    urgh didnt know who that was so googled it.
    
    why do they always look so smug? false confidence?
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:08pm
- Inandout
  
  I assumed ‘their’ was a derivative of ‘the sir’. Funny if it was.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:31am
  - lifesgood
    
    I’ve just had the misfortune to witness the Air New Zealand video. What a complete and utter load of tripe. There were a lot of foreigners on my flight who clearly couldn’t make head nor tail of it so just ignored it. IT IS A SAFETY BRIEFING, ffs. What use is it if it is ignored. AirNZ is rapidly falling off it’s perch as No 1 airline. They need to do a heap of work on some of their air crew too. It seems anyone will do nowdays. The graceless female attendant on my flight was blunt “Want a drink?’ was the best she could do.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:22pm
big bruv

I’ve thought a lot about the Czech and his ‘problems’.
I’ve also thought about the timeline of his problems and how that timeline might intersect with the very strong rumours about the partner of a certain highly placed MP from earlier in the year.
I would be willing to wager that the original rumours were put about by somebody very close to the highly placed MP in the full knowledge that they were false and that eventually there would come a time when the person at the center of those rumours could be publicly exonerated by a very highly placed public servant and the highly placed MP. I also now believe that those earlier rumours were started with the full knowledge of the upcoming Czech drama.
When you think about it this is a masterstroke by those close to the MP. Now that the inevitable rumours have started again (this time based on fact) it enables the highly placed MP to claim that their partner is being victimised and also allows that highly placed MP to brush off any accusations as being another example of their partner being persecuted.
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November 28, 2018 10:40am
- dime
  
  hmm sounds a bit clever for those morons to come up with!
  
  but maybe they have someone with a brain working for them.
  
  ill laugh if there is a link between this shitbag and some mps husband or whatever
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:07am
- MT_Tinman
  
  BB, I doubt that “highly placed MP” is that smart.
  
  In fact I’d suggest the sheila is not fit for purpose.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:13am
- Longknives
  
  Regardless of what the rumours may or may not be-
  New Zealand Police should NOT have become involved.
  Mike Bush and co severely compromised themselves and their organisation doing that..
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:18am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Absolutely agree; Bush, by putting out an unsolicited statement on behalf of Clarke Gayford demolished the perception that the NZ Police is a politically-neutral organisation. And as well all know, in politics, perception is everything.
    
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    November 28, 2018 11:28am
- Inandout
  
  I heard from MP Woodhouse that the Czech can get years of legal advice before he is kicked out. In this case the bloody legal shit is a cash cow for lawyers. Come on Nats, use parliamentary privilege.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:35am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Are the Nats playing the long slow game?
    
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    November 28, 2018 11:56am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Yep; death by a thousand leaks.
      
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      November 28, 2018 2:03pm
- Rich Prick
  
  It seems Iain Lees Galloway is going to be asked to slip his mother into the country too. Let’s watch this closely.
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108911600/national-questions-immigration-minister-about-residency-for-sroubeks-mother
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:27pm
  - Longknives
    
    Sroubek certainly seems to have this Government bent over a barrel!
    One can only wonder how and why…
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:33pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Whatever he’s got, it must be good. The power/influence I mean, not the drugs.
      
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      November 28, 2018 12:44pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      You just need to read between the lines Longknives.
      
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      November 28, 2018 2:29pm
      - sooty
        
        Is there a shortage of swiss balls? Longknives.
        
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        November 28, 2018 5:04pm
  - Paulus
    
    Thought I just heard that Galloway or whatever he calls himself has changed his mind over Sroubek and that he will be deported after his sentence.
    Now the Lawyers have started a long and expensive case against the taxpayers.
    Assume it will be longer and cost more than the Fat German who is still here.
    
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    November 28, 2018 2:00pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Paulus, It was confirmed on the 5pm news that Sleaze-Gallopaway has indeed changed his mind. For some pure comedy of a minister trying to explain how he came to change his mind while dancing on the head of a pin, you have to listen to Checkpoint on Red Radio at 5.10pm (17:10) with Lisa Owen. It was pure comedy as ILG tied himself in knots!!
      
      He is in trouble when this is debated.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:58pm
  - Ross12
    
    Where does this leave the PM and Peters who were so adamant that Lees-Gallow made the right decision originally after they had seen the evidence ?
    Some mud has to eventually stick on this issue at some stage.
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:58pm
    - simpleton1
      
      Yes Ross12,
      Those 2 need to be caught up in this issue.
      
      Ardhern and Peters, seen, know of the evidence that convinced IL-G to grant residence.
      So for them now, why did the new evidence overturn that non disclosed detail, the one they could not tell the public about, that was so important in granting Soubrek the right to residence.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:45pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      At best looking foolish else they are screwed and donkey deep in the same sh*t as ILG.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:59pm
Longknives

I see Marie Antoinette is giving her Wellington residence a $3 million dollar upgrade?
(*This despite her ‘Working from home’ in Auckland most weeks!)
What on earth is the money being spent on? ‘Top of the line’ DJ Mixing desks? A new garage for Gayford’s boat? A guest house for Karel Stroubek and friends to come stay??
Anyone else remember Labour screaming the house down when National tried to upgrade the property? Ardern disgusts me with her hypocrisy…
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November 28, 2018 11:16am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Spot the difference between opposition and government; this was what Chris Hipkins had to say in 2011:
  
  Prime Minister John Key is shrugging off the latest opposition attacks over ministerial spending habits.
  
  More than $275,000 was spent on a revamp of the Prime Minister’s Wellington residence, Premier House.
  
  Labour MP Chris Hipkins said the bill was more than what some people spent on an entire house.
  
  On top of a $215,000 repainting bill, a further $55,366.87 went on re-carpeting the house and $3,056.88 on new blinds.
  
  ”Every Kiwi family struggling to pay the bills knows that if you can’t afford to pay for dinner, new carpet and curtains for the lounge get pushed a long way down the list,” Hipkins said.
  
  The criticism was the latest in a string of attacks by Labour on Key and other ministers over what is says is excessive use of military transport, the Diplomatic Protection Squad (DPS) and expensive Crown limousines.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/4975846/The-full-cost-of-Keys-home-renovation
  
  Seven years on, and Minister Hipkins is delighted that $3m is being spent on Premier House, ten times what he criticised National for spending, and enough to buy six or seven “affordable” Kiwibuild homes!
  
  Three cheers for Chris Hipkins; hyp, hyp, hypocrisy!
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:39am
- KevOB
  
  The old place in Thorndon, a former dental clinic too, has many very large rooms useful for political/State occasions.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:45am
- rangitoto
  
  We can’t have Taxinda living in a damp and mouldy mansion.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:55am
  - cmm
    
    $3M will buy a few rolls of bubble wrap for the windows.
    
    No doubt the Tesla also needs a three-phase charging station.
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:49pm
- RF
  
  There is talk of Jethro being missing in action along with squirrel. This is also a popular and much discussed topic on other blogs.
  
  Is it a self imposed media blackout on both because it’s a major turn off when ever their names are mentioned ?
  
  Cindy… It must be terrible for you and your family to be so disliked by your loyal subjects….
  
  I believe she will stand down owing to ” pressure”.
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:40pm
  - Longknives
    
    Something weird is definitely going on RF.
    That prat Gayford couldn’t shut up on Twitter up until a month or so ago. He was fucking relentless- ‘Jacinda this/Jacinda that’ ‘Look at us aren’t we amazeballs?’ etc etc
    Now he is deathly quiet.
    
    Curiouser and Curiouser….
    
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    November 28, 2018 12:45pm
- cmm
  
  “What on earth is the money being spent on? ”
  
  A sleep out for when First Boyfriend is out of favour?
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:47pm
- MGT
  
  This was signed off by the previous Government.
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:09pm
  - Tall Man
    
    $1,000,000 was….
    
    Ardern the liar has different tastes.
    
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    November 28, 2018 2:31pm
Rich Prick

Hands up everyone who has seen anyone vaping in a bar, restaurant, school or workplace. So is a ban just pointless posturing?
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November 28, 2018 11:41am
- Inandout
  
  As the vaping seller ad says, ‘go in and ask’.
  
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  November 28, 2018 11:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

Question One might be good for a larf today..

Hon SIMON BRIDGES to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Government’s statements and actions, including her statement yesterday where she described geometric mean growth as “when taking into account spreading over that period of time, spreading over the increase is a much more accurate way of taking one month out of the year”?
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November 28, 2018 11:57am
- mark15
  
  Wow
  He must have played that one back a few times
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:24pm
- KevOB
  
  It was hilarious with Winston not being able to explain a geometric mean. It seems to be a politically desirable statistic to reduce the impact of an arithmetic mean. Not his words but he suggested they were onto a good thing with that mean.
  
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  November 28, 2018 5:46pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh FFS!

The Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard says many MPs arrive at Parliament with no idea how to manage staff.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/376974/bullying-harassment-review-mps-need-extensive-training-trevor-mallard

It’s not bloody difficult to treat folks with respect…
There is an entire infrastructure in Parliament to run the damn place.

NO EXCUSES
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November 28, 2018 12:34pm
- cmm
  
  “The Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard says many MPs arrive at Parliament with no idea how to manage staff.”
  
  This is surely a job requirement. If you can’t work with people (including ministerial staff, researchers, opposition, etc etc etc), then don’t apply for the job.
  
  If someone is on $200k+, you expect them to be vaguely competent and suited to their role.
  
  In no other job can you get away with lacking core skills. Try be a sparkie who doesn’t understand electricity; try be a baker who doesn’t know what bread is.
  
  But no worries, just turn up in the beehive and we’ll give you $200k+ to just sit there and keep a seat warm.
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:44pm
  - sooty
    
    Well if they were not public troughers, they would have had some real life exprience?
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:00pm
- RF
  
  Maggy.
  
  Do you think Mallard who in his eyes is the pillar of society, ever thinks back to the time when he was standing in the dock facing an assault charge on a fellow parliamentarian.
  
  The charge he pleaded guilty to.
  
  People living in glass houses etc.. etc..
  
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  November 28, 2018 12:48pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @RF
    
    Can’t say I’ve ever given much thought to Mallard.
    
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    November 28, 2018 2:22pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Only in hunting season 🙂
      
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      November 28, 2018 2:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Akshully…
        I’ve got 14 of them kipping on one of my lawns at the moment.
        (Doesn’t help that hubby feeds them poultry pellets all day long…. and then in the evening when Donald & Daisy fly in).
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:23pm
      - RF
        
        Maggy.
        
        Number 5 steel shot will do the trick.
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:39pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Mallard is the last person who should be moralising about the treatment of employees after defaming Erin Leigh when he was a Minister.
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:21pm
  - sooty
    
    Having a punch up inside the house as well!
    
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    November 28, 2018 4:56pm
- cmm
  
  They also have no ideas of their responsibility to front up to scrutiny.
  
  ILG should have been sanctioned for hiding behind a pillar and avoiding the media.
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:25pm
- graham
  
  “They [MPs] need to be put through some quite extensive training.”
  
  Point 1. As Maggy says, it’s not exactly that difficult to treat people with respect.
  
  Point 2. “Extensive” training? Let me help you out here Trev.
  
  EMA – “Management – An Introduction” – 1-day course
  EMA – “Leadership – People Skills” – 2-day course
  EMA – “Managing Difficult and Disruptive People” – 1-day course
  
  Just add those on to the existing two-week “Members’ Induction Programme” – I’m sure NZ will still run for the extra four days.
  
  Mind you, may I also point out that as, apparently, the “Members’ Induction Programme” offers one to one sessions about Parliament – INCLUDING STAFFING – maybe you should query if any of your little gaggle of MPs actually bothered attending them?
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:58pm
  - KevOB
    
    Once it was expected MP’s would have management skills.
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:48pm
- Tall Man
  
  Thanks for posting that.
  
  Read the file, slam dunk, deportation.
  
  There is nothing at all in that file that would allow a different decision.
  
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  November 28, 2018 2:27pm
Rich Prick

Good.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108927272/immigration-minister-iain-leesgalloway-revokes-karel-sroubeks-residency

The not so good, incompetency is an expensive business.

Any push to kick the 37-year-old Czech national out of New Zealand could be a long, complicated process as legal battles look likely to ensue.
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November 28, 2018 1:12pm
- cmm
  
  “He is being removed because he never had a visa in the first place.”
  
  Rocket Science 101!
  
  Now all the back pedaling:
  ILG stood by his first decision, as did PriNZess, as did Winston.
  
  This cock up means Sroubek has a reasonable case to appeal, judical review, etc etc so he’s here for the foreseeable future, Kim Dotcom style.
  
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  November 28, 2018 1:29pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    I bet the judicial review papers were prepared last week and are ready to go.
    The PM wants this cluster to go.
    Cant see that happening for a long time.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:45pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Judicial review, Court of Appeal, Supreme Court. I would speculate it’ll be at least five years and will cost millions of dollars before Sroubek is deported.
      
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      November 28, 2018 2:04pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    I hope Cindy announces an inquiry into the original monumentally stupid decision though, because the reason for it remains a mystery to the rest of us.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:46pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Now that the Stroubek decision has been overturned, are Comrade Cindy and Jethro shitting bricks because now Stroubek has nothing to lose?
      And is that the reason why Cindy hasn’t turned up for work today?
      
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      November 28, 2018 2:11pm
      - Inandout
        
        Why Captain, surely you are not suggesting Cindy is cleaning out her cupboards and garden shed?
        
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        November 28, 2018 2:33pm
      - Longknives
        
        To be fair Cindy hardly ever turns up to work!
        Preferring to ‘work from home’…
        On $500k a year…
        
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        November 28, 2018 3:38pm
      - sooty
        
        Where’s Jethro? For such a media whore, this is very strange! It’s as though Cindy has murdered him and buried him in the back shed! Why? What has he done, to warrant this? Is he tied in with the dud cheque? Just reading between the lines!
        
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        November 28, 2018 4:54pm
  - RF
    
    I noticed that SLAG did not front with her hapless Minister and the head of immigration.
    
    That’s what she does. If it’s giving cash away and all about me me me she will attend an opening of a book.
    
    Anything hinting of controversy and she is missing in action.
    
    Gutless as usual.
    
    The immigration minister is a shifty looking dude who claims that he has done nothing wrong and inherited established practices. He has appoligised to Ardern and will not resign.
    
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    November 28, 2018 1:51pm
  - KevOB
    
    The Minister ILG gave a very full explanation today in an urgent debate following QT.
    He had now looked at the file. Additional information had come to light. While he is expecting possible review by an Immigration Appeal he is fully on board that he was deceived when making his initial decision.
    
    ILG strongly suggested that he decided almost by rote and doesn’t apply Ministerial discretion. He claims to have been very influenced by a trial judge who found that Sroubek was in danger on being returned to his former home. ILG blamed officials for his not having the information on which to decide.
    National roasted ILG by pointing out that he had completely ignored public safety, Sroubek’s convictions and the refusal of the Parole Board to release him.
    Winston’s defence was questioned alongside NZF’s demand to reduce immigration by 60,000.
    
    ILG judgment = zero.
    
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    November 28, 2018 6:07pm
madamezucchininz

Simon and the Nat’s have launched their “Families Matter” campaign…they want comments and ideas from people….Well the trolls on fb are out in full force so decided it not worthwhile to leave a comment…..so am going to leave my comments here in the hope that “someone” will read them….My daughter thru no fault of her own is a “solo mother”….she never wanted to be “that solo mother”…so has been employed since the bubba was six months old….steadily working her way up in hospitality….one of the lowest paid industries we have…..the last business she worked for never got off the ground ….so it was back to the job hunt…..she finally secured a position and was excited about starting work….even tho it was a step down from what she was doing (hospitality is in a bit of a slump in ChCh)….this position was secured thru the MSD….and was supposed to be a “flexi-pay” situation…..yesterday she received an email from the MSD to say the job was no longer a job…..the reason?….The MSD have made huge demands of a new and fledgling business….an hourly rate they cannot afford….and a demand that she be given a guaranteed 30 hours a week….which they cannot do….so no job…..My daughter is gutted….she just wants to work…She also informed me that the system is madness….she was working forty hours a week for $25.oo an hour….now since this lot have come in….the benefits have gone up etc….and all she has to do now is get a minimum dollar wage @ 20 hours a week with a benefit top up….works out the same as her 40 hour a week got her…..it may be the same in dollars….but it decreases confidence….gives no incentive whatsoever ….this is madness and needs fixing……when she first went to the MSD asking for work…..the work broker told her to stop looking for work….wtf…and he would get her a job…..we are still waiting….she has not taken this advice and applies for everything she can….but is now too experienced to get the minimum dollar job…….it seems to me that the MSD either do not want beneficiaries to work…..their expectations of hours and hourly rates are in fairyland….so I say to you Simon and your party…have a long hard look at the MSD and their policies….and bring something in that actually makes work attractive as opposed to the benefit….have a look at this flexi-pay system and how it works …..the business my daughter was going to work for are disappointed that they cannot take her….my daughter is disappointed and tearful….as all she wants is a job….it is not all about the money….it is about feeling good about oneself….helping oneself….setting an example for her son…..and on and on….I know this is a bit of a rant….but what this corrupt lot have done is a mess and is costing….and will create fourth and fifth generation beneficiaries…….written by a third generation righty…..
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November 28, 2018 1:32pm
- Tall Man
  
  Send him an email, at least he will look at it which is way more than ardern the liar would do.
  
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  November 28, 2018 2:21pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @madamezucchiniz
  
  Hospo work in NZ is tricky… lousy wages, long hours, but the work is there for a dependable worker. It just may not be in the obvious setting.
  Check that your daughter is using all the Hospo -job websites.
  Is she available for one-off catering jobs?
  Has she got her Licence Controller Qualification?
  
  My youngest found it a bit rough in the first year after finishing her chef quals… but she took part-time work in different places, made herself available for short-term contracts at places like Parliament, Government House, Film Production sites, and had soon built up a decent cv and picked up new skills, that all helped to score her first permanent job.
  
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  November 28, 2018 2:46pm
  - madamezucchininz
    
    …thank you for your comments….my daughter has been in the industry for 15 years….has the licensing etc….she is a front of house manager/supervisor with event co-ordination experience….at the present time these positions are few & far between….with rigorous competition….her son has just started school…..we as grandparents have supported her in her ambition to further her career by being the little guys second home….which has worked well for the past four and a half years…as you know hospitality is a tricky trade….my daughter has done it all from the kitchen to coffee cart….fine dining to buffet service….in this industry you just have to do it all…as you and your daughter probably already know all to well…..thanks again Maggy for your comments and tips…
    
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    November 28, 2018 3:46pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Maggy, Madame, Most recently qualified Hospo workers have no useable skills whatsoever.
    
    The only way forward is to take work wherever you can at whatever pay is available and build experience.
    
    No pollie can fix this, only experience and hard work.
    
    I realise things have changed slightly but I took myself from unpaid kitchen hand to tourist hotel assistant manager (after the age of 40) by doing this – and I doubt things have changed that much.
    
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    November 28, 2018 3:49pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I think it is hard in NZ for a specialist hospo- worker, but now my daughter is in a big city overseas and can walk straight out of one job into another and collect a salary well in XS of anything she could earn in NZ.
      But it’s still long hours working in top restaurants…. so every now & again she takes a break and works casual/short-term contracts.
      
      @MT_Tinman
      You may be right about the new grad hospo workers…
      
      but, my goodness, what a difference good chefs and front-of-house/waiting staff make to any establishment.
      
      I can practically guarantee which places will fall over within a year or two just based on one visit.
      
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      November 28, 2018 5:15pm
mandk

Will the PM now explain exactly what is what we were supposed to read between the lines?

And will the Deputy PM now tell us exactly what he read that persuaded him not deporting Sroubek was an ok decision?
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November 28, 2018 3:24pm
- mandk
  
  why can’t comments be edited?
  
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  November 28, 2018 3:26pm
RF

Urgent debate…. Peters has lost it. Surprised he has not been tossed out of the house by Anne Tolly
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November 28, 2018 3:33pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  He was. Check out from around the 7:30 mark, although Peters’ whole diatribe is worth a look.
  
  Anne Tolley gave Peters several warnings about not sticking to the topic, and eventually terminated his speech. Peters then gave her a gob-full of abuse, and she kicked him out, and all power to her.
  
  https://youtu.be/5z8tFnecPUY
  
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  November 28, 2018 4:18pm
  - Longknives
    
    Jesus! Winston was rambling and slurring- He is either drunk or something is not right Medically?
    This should be headlines news tonight!
    *Sadly- It won’t be….
    
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    November 28, 2018 4:25pm
    - realityczech
      
      Longknives, don’t talk crap. He sounded fine.
      
      While morons hate on Peters, Ardern and her vile crew are destroying the country. Stay focused.
      
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      November 28, 2018 6:41pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Drunk…and I am an expert….
        
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        November 28, 2018 8:54pm
      - realityczech
        
        Makes more sense pissed then than Ardern does sober.
        
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        November 28, 2018 8:56pm
      - barnacle bill
        
        Quite right RC, I watched and have to say that Peters look fine, and logical.
        
        Not sure just what agenda some on here have towards the Deputy PM.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:26pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Drunk..extremely drunk.
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:55pm
  - MrTips
    
    What a tosser. Clearly just blustering to drag it out and deflect. Laughed about his high hobby horse diatribe about lying on official documents. Pension claims are official documents aren’t they you old smegma!!??
    
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    November 28, 2018 4:27pm
  - RF
    
    Thanks KS.
    
    I had turned off my TV so missed that gem.
    
    He was either pissed or having a medical event. Speech slurred etc…..
    
    He is our bloody Deputy PM.
    
    Disgusting…. Ardern is just a puppet.
    
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    November 28, 2018 5:00pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  He was.
  Sorry KS, missed your comment.
  
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  November 28, 2018 4:19pm
- godruelf
  
  No mention of Winston getting the Arse Card on the MSM . What a surprise.
  Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if he had tried it on with the Duck the way he did with Tolly. His performance could almost be described as bullying.
  
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  November 28, 2018 6:19pm
  - Longknives
    
    No mention of this insane meltdown at all on TVNZ’s news report on the Stroubek saga!
    Then Jessica Mutch gives a gushing piece on how ILG and her hero Ardern would have ‘learned from this matter’ etc etc (Desperately trying to bury it all)
    TVNZ are as corrupt as their beloved Labour Government…
    
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    November 28, 2018 6:24pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  That POS Winston, what a clown…. what a disgrace, and he determined who is running the country now. Words escape me, I need a stiff drink……
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:06pm
Longknives

Only in a Muslim Country-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6430317/The-orangutan-sex-slave-forced-work-BROTHEL.html

Jesus Wept! Those sick,sick fuckers…
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November 28, 2018 3:35pm
- Inandout
  
  If you can’t force yourself on a infidel girl, and you are a single Muslim, an ape is preferable to a camel. Dirty rotten bastards.
  
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  November 28, 2018 5:03pm
- kowtow
  
  Only in a Muslim part of the country.
  
  “A council was last night criticised as ‘ridiculous’ and ‘perverse’ after it offered a prison inmate access to a son he fathered by raping a teenage girl.
  
  Arshid Hussain, 43, the ringleader of the notorious Rotherham grooming gang, was not named on the boy’s birth certificate and had no parental responsibility for the child, who was born after his mother was raped, aged just 14.”
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6435473/Rotherham-Asian-sex-gang-victim-pregnant-15-rapist-slams-council-custody-row.html
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:08pm
Jack5

What is coming up for Stuff?

The merger deal of Fairfax Media and Nine Entertainment Company passed its final Australian regulatory step yesterday. Fairfax, which owns Stuff, will own 48.9 per cent of the merged company.

The Age, of Melbourne, suggests there will be redundancies “within weeks” in some divisions of the newly merged group.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/nine-entertainment-co-takeover-of-fairfax-media-approved-by-court-20181127-p50iix.html
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November 28, 2018 3:57pm
- Longknives
  
  Nothing would make me happier than seeing every single Fairfax employee grovelling to WINZ on the Unemployment line!
  
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  November 28, 2018 4:31pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    That’s unfair. Stuff is suffering hugely because of the drastic changes in the media landscape – but its silly to wish all their employees ill just because of this and the fact that you don’t like some aspects of their journalism.
    
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    November 28, 2018 10:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What is coming up for Stuff?
  Its demise.
  
  Some folks already on the way out..
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/business/376949/stuff-confirms-plans-to-axe-19-community-journalism-jobs
  
  So pleased my youngest ditched Media studies for a decent job.
  
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  November 28, 2018 4:34pm
igm

What qualifications, other than a big mouth, and close association to Labour, has this woofter Clive Matthew-Wilson?
He puts out a publication that is cut and paste and he definitely has no knowledge of the basic fudamentals of the average car.
He is one of the in wankers at Fairfax, but that is his limitation.
I understand he never served any apprenticeship in the trade so his views are, as he, bullshit.
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November 28, 2018 4:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Dead right igm.
  I recall that about 15 years ago, as a road safety ‘expert’, he used to drive a 1957 Morris Oxford to which he had fitted an aftermarket driver’s airbag.
  His logic was that even though he could afford one, he wouldn’t drive a modern car because they were ‘unsafe’ as they had progressive crushability built into the structure rather than being built like an unyielding block of concrete.
  Yes, he’s a bullshit artist but quite an articulate one and that’s all that Fairfax and TV news require.
  
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  November 28, 2018 4:25pm
  - Jack5
    
    Clive Matthew-Wilson should have made a reasonable living out of this Dog and Lemon Guide, published in print from 1996 to 2010, and its legacy web site, which sells reviews.
    
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    November 28, 2018 4:49pm
    - Jack5
      
      Here’s an old article from Stuff having a snipe at Clive Matthew-Wilson:
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/blogs/drivetalk/1878250/Safety-expert-loses-the-plot-and-500
      
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      November 28, 2018 4:54pm
    - igm
      
      He should have been taken to task as these are not guides, they are cut and pastes from technical data well beyond this jerk’s capabilities. If one knows their cars it is easy to see he has very limited basic knowledge.
      Anyone who thought a 1957 Morris Oxford was a good car should be psycho-analysed . . . they were head cracking, gearbox stuffing, crankshaft breaking, oil leaking pommy junk.
      
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      November 28, 2018 5:14pm
      - Inandout
        
        Mum had one, and was a good touring car with heaps of legroom.
        
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        November 28, 2018 6:11pm
    - igm
      
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      November 28, 2018 6:00pm
Jack5

NZ walks the China-USA tightrope.

Spark had been blocked from using Huawei for its 5G network.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/377014/gcsb-blocks-spark-from-using-chinese-tech-in-5g-rollout
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November 28, 2018 4:29pm
- Inandout
  
  Iwi must be consulted first. They may like Hoowye.
  
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  November 28, 2018 6:51pm
- realityczech
  
  We should also block Israeli apps Jacksie.
  
  After all they did declare war on us. Their filthy secret police have been caught committing crimes in NZ. That is how DG got caught. He was punnished but the chosen ones got off.
  
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1612/S00104/background-to-how-israel-nearly-went-to-war-with-new-zealand.htm
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:35pm
  - Random Punter
    
    They didn’t “declare war on us”. On the contrary, they said they regarded our action as a declaration of war on them.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:57pm
    - realityczech
      
      Oh that makes all the difference. You people are real scumbags.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:55pm
Herodotus

“While he hasn’t been able to share all the information that sat behind that, I think just glancing back at some of the past coverage of his entry into New Zealand, reading between the lines you can probably ascertain why the Minister made the decision that he made,” Ardern said.
What was there to “reading between the lines” ? Was this baseless miss direction from our PM ? Others may have another word to replace “Baseless”?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12150916
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November 28, 2018 4:49pm
cmm

“perfect couple”
* Still living in mum’s basement.
* Die of drugs overdose.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12167723

What’s up with people these days?
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November 28, 2018 5:01pm
Longknives

So it begins!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12167758

Look at this guy- What on earth gives him the right to wander into a ladies restroom?? (full of little girls)
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November 28, 2018 5:02pm
- gump
  
  Guy? Wikipedia says Rain Dove was born female. So you’re complaining about a genetic woman using the ladies restroom.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Dove
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:50pm
krazykiwi

Woman tells Auckland Council her dog identifies as a cat in bid to avoid registration fees

An Auckland woman’s hilarious message to the Council has gone viral on Facebook.

Jade Schutte was fed up with high registration fees, and the possibility of a by-law being passed to ban dogs on beaches between10am and 7pm was the final straw.

So she took matters into her own hands. In a message to the Auckland Council she screen-shotted and posted to Facebook, Ms Schutte said her dog Lettie now identifies as a cat, so she won’t be paying the registration fees.

It’s about time we held a ‘[x] identifies as [y] in order to [z]’ competition.
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November 28, 2018 5:18pm
realityczech

I see the fake news outlet Stuff has launched a new propaganda campaign today promoting climate hysteria.

Usually they do this ahead of government taking either more of our money, or rights. It is an attempt to sell an unpopular govt policy to the sheeple.

Just wait and see…
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November 28, 2018 5:38pm
- Inandout
  
  How long can stuff survive without newspaper income?
  
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  November 28, 2018 6:09pm
  - realityczech
    
    RNZ managed to get tens of millions by simply running propaganda for Labour.
    
    They got caught doing it, but the bribe was still paid.
    
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    November 28, 2018 6:45pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I started reading some of their crap and just gave up. Written for morons, by morons. FFS
  
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  November 28, 2018 6:53pm
rightoverlabour

And can we have a separate post on ILG umming and ahhing on Larry Williams tonight. He knows he is talking shit, and he threw immigration under the bus, express train and fucking oil tanker today. What a fucking cock. Despicable.
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November 28, 2018 6:55pm
- RF
  
  Jesus…. ILG gone by Xmas.
  
  She who stamps her feet and screeches and must be obeyed will not appreciate the attention that is now on both her and the disgusting object ,with the dubious title of Deputy PM.
  
  Both these turkeys stuck up for ILG who appears to have shot himself in both feet and his arse.
  
  What a lovely Xmas present…..
  
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  November 28, 2018 7:17pm
Johnboy

Jeeze! I’ll buy one of those L’urv’s if she’s 50% off! 🙂
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November 28, 2018 7:01pm
DigNap15

ILG read the report that said Soubrek had attacked two policemen in Czech Republic and other crimes.
And yet he thought him a fit person to get NZ residency?
The guy is an idiot.
He should be fired with no pay!
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November 28, 2018 7:37pm
- All_on_Red
  
  He’s also lied.
  He said it was ‘new’ material but it was in the report.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:47pm
nasska

Dollars to little round knobs of goat shit that Two Fathers is being hung out to dry in order to save the Princess.
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November 28, 2018 7:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

“Europe is splitting at the seams”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/28/emmanuel-macron-populism-french-president
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November 28, 2018 8:21pm
- nasska
  
  That article was a good read Maggy.
  
  …..” Because of his political inexperience, his intellectual arrogance, his hubris, and by taking himself for a solitary Jupiterian hero”…..
  
  Could describe the woeful Labour leadership well.
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Folks keep falling for these photogenic failures.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:30pm
    - Tall Man
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ardern+is+a+liar+photo&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=qrUw-soaoO7xuM%253A%252CFuN3v39iETQOCM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kTMr3P7Gli8NL9QXhiVQ6KuSdVvsA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjTmcecyvbeAhUVTY8KHR4wC4AQ9QEwBHoECAYQDA#imgrc=qrUw-soaoO7xuM:
      
      Photogenic?
      
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      November 28, 2018 8:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Anybody out there an expert on goats?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018673269/neighbours-fight-over-sickly-goat
He lives in a vast paddock full of grass, buttercups, has access to a water bore and is hand fed veggies and pellets.

I wouldn’t think a paddock of buttercups would be very good for any stock.
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November 28, 2018 8:28pm
- nasska
  
  Buttercup is toxic Maggy but in my own humble experience I’ve never known stock to eat it. In any case it’s usually only a problem in poorly drained paddocks & can be sprayed effectively with ‘Preside’
  
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  November 28, 2018 8:44pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But if you read the article…
    You get the impression that the goat owners are a bit clueless…
    and the picture shows the paddock is YELLOW
    Doesn’t look like much grass/greenery for the goat.
    
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    November 28, 2018 8:48pm
    - nasska
      
      You’re linking to an article written by wankers about lifestyle farmers Maggy. I could write books about people who buy a few acres & do it “their way” because they know deep in their widdle hearts that farmers haven’t a clue. A few points:
      
      1) Grass dies out & weeds proliferate especially on drought prone paddocks that are overgrazed.
      
      2) Seven years is about max before the land needs resown.
      
      3) Mention soil tests to lifestylers & you’ll get the same response as if you suggested inter planetary space travel on carpets. They have zero concept that you have to put nutrients into the soil if you wish to take them out.
      
      4) PH is a bridge too far for their comprehension. (Buttercup likes poorly drained acid soil).
      
      There are exceptions but most are knowalls who know nothing & avoid all possibilities to improve on their limited knowledge.
      
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      November 28, 2018 9:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        But but “organic sustainable”
        
        Buzz words make plants grow.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:11pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I know…
        The in-laws took over a lifestyler outside of Ashhurst, but within 1 year, the farming adventure was over. and they rented out their paddocks thereafter.
        
        We originally came up to Gizzy to look over a lifestyler… which looked attractive on paper… but apart from being too far out in the wops, it was going to be beyond our skill sets to keep it ship-shape.
        
        Our compromise on the edge of civilization has turned out to be rather perfect for a couple of lazy slobs.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:32pm
      - Swifty
        
        Good on you Maggy – you’ve earned it.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:53pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        something like half of lifestyle blockers sell out within 2-3 years.
        
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        November 28, 2018 10:00pm
Jack5

An interesting speech: Steve Bannon talking to the Oxford Union less than two weeks ago.

His takes on what caused the “populism rebellion,” on the rise of Trump, on “economic nationalism” and more.

https://youtu.be/8AtOw-xyMo8
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November 28, 2018 8:35pm
- realityczech
  
  Good to hear you warming up to Nationalism for the goyim Jacksie.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:02pm
- Jack5
  
  In an interesting final comment, Bannon said that among his stiffest opponents when he was fighting illegal immigration were the Chambers of Commerce and the Republican Party establishment.
  
  Michael Barnett, long-time Auckland Chamber of Commerce head honcho and Santa Claus sacker, was the person that came to mind and that was because Barnett’s been in the headlines and has led that chamber for quarter of a century.
  
  Are the NZ Chambers of Commerce, with dairy farmers, pushing for more immigration for similar reasons Bannon suggests is the case in America – to keep wages low?
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:57pm
stigie

The incoherent prick Peters was rightfully kicked out of parliament today !~

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12167885
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November 28, 2018 8:57pm
- realityczech
  
  Is English a second language?
  
  He sounds better than Bridges who comes across as mildly retarded.
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:01pm
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    As opposed to yourself, in which case the word ‘mildly’ can be deleted.
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh this is priceless.
Why didn’t Prime run with it at 5:30pm news?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/11/he-was-a-bully-christine-rankin-accuses-crude-trevor-mallard-of-bullying.html
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November 28, 2018 9:39pm
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  “Ms Rankin says she was relentlessly bullied by senior Labour Party ministers after they took power in 1999, and that group included now-Speaker Mr Mallard. ,b>
  
  “He was a bully,” she told Newshub. “They were all bullies and they revelled in it.”
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:46pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Mallard must go.

Sack the bullies in your Caucus, Jacinda.
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November 28, 2018 9:49pm
- RF
  
  Too gutless
  
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  November 28, 2018 9:56pm
- igm
  
  Mallard heard Henare had serious coronary problems then attacked him.
  He is a wimp and a vile bastard.
  
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  November 29, 2018 7:10am
- Morrissey
  
  Yes, there was one bloke who blew smoke in the face of an asthmatic woman who pleaded with him to stop smoking a cigar in an enclosed space.
  
  Oh sorry, that was Dr Jonathan Coleman (National).
  
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  November 29, 2018 9:41am
fernglas

I often wonder why people are surprised that those who seek power have a tendency to use it.
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November 28, 2018 9:57pm
Viking2

Always was a nasty bastard.
His record stands as such.
From bullying women to rugby bosses (remember he was going to bully the world rugby guy) to following the Netball Silver Ferns around and making himself a nuisance after games looking for entertainment. ( It was a talked about thing.)
Of course his other bad trait was to use others like Preeble to vilify Rankin, all because he was so gutless he didn’t have the decency to say to her, we would like you to leave what will it take. Instead he behaved like the piece of shit he is and behaved appallingly. Calls himself a man.
Perhaps he might man up and quit and admit that his behavior was so bad. I don’t imagine he has the courage.
The of course it wasn’t just directed at women, he decided he was a hero and attacked physically Tau Henare, which of course was a disgrace but also a symptom of his small man syndrome.

It seems though that another inquiry and lots of taxpayers money is going to be spent to cover this arsehole in glory.
But he is not alone.
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November 29, 2018 7:29am
Morrissey

….he decided he was a hero and attacked physically Tau Henare

Let’s face it, Viking: beating up that waste of space was the best thing Mallard has done in his career. You alone seem to have a problem with it.
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