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krazykiwi

While history mocks Neville Chamberlain’s compliant idiocy, it will remember Theresa May more brutally. She has utterly betrayed the trust placed in her by the people of the UK, in what amounts to a traitorous capitulation to her EU masters, or more specifically, to Germany. The so-called ‘deal’ is an anthesis of the Brexit mandate. For example:

♢ Permanent Servitude. The UK will have no future legal way of disentangling itself from EU laws and regulations unless the EU agrees to it.

♢ Trade Limitation. It keeps all the EU import tariffs to the UK in place, which nullifies any chance of negotiating any trade deals with countries outside the EU.

♢ Entanglement. There is a “transition” period until the phony Brexit comes into force, but during it, all EU laws and directives will remain in full force. Further, there is no legally binding end date to the transition period, so the UK could still be inside the EU and bound by its rules indefinitely.

♢ Loss of Sovereignty. The UK is prohibited from any involvement in the ‘the nomination, appointment or election of members of the institutions, bodies, offices and agencies of the Union, as well as the participation in the decision-making and the attendance in the meetings of the institutions’. Basically, the UK will have absolutely no control over their laws or economy; that will all reside with the unelected, faceless bureaucrats in Brussels.

♢ Indebtedness to the Left. Theresa the Traitor will probably need the support of the loony communist left to get this through parliament, and you can be sure they’ll have a laundry list of socialist demands.

This isn’t what more than 17 million UK citizens voted for, and I suspect there are plenty ‘Remain’ voters who think this permanent entrenchment of EU power is a step too far.

What will happen?
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November 27, 2018 8:00am
- I've been to Mecca and you have not!
  
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  Good news Kiwibloggers for those whose eyes have been opened to truth:
  
  Who is Allah?
  
  Allah – There is no deity except Him, the ever-living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His kursi extents over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tries Him not. and He is the Most High, The Most Great.
  
  – Holy Quran | Surah Baqarah | 255.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:02am
  - sooty
    
    I have been to maccas and you haven’t.
    I had bacon today! YUMMY!
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:09am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    What an idiot!
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:09am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Your comment has nothing to do with Krazykiwi’s excellent and thoughtful contribution. It’s obvious that you responded to his comment so that your comment would appear as close to the top of this thread as possible.
    
    I don’t normally say this, but in this case, having regard to the value-free content of your comment, I’ll make an exception: fuck off troll!
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:11am
    - GazzaW
      
      Totally agree Nostra. It’s time for DPF to fast track this fruitcake to Strike 10.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:19am
  - peterwn
    
    שָׁלוֹם
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:18am
    - VicParking
      
      Peace to you
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:32am
  - Inandout
    
    Allanah was a woman.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:18am
  - KevOB
    
    @I’ve been to Mecca and you have not!
    
    If you continue with this expect Christians to put forth their one true God. We shortly celebrate the birth of Gods offering as the Saviour of the world, Jesus Christ.
    
    Let us leave KB as a non-religious war zone.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:19am
    - SGA
      
      KevOB,
      It’s just a troll trying to wind people up. No need to start some sort of proselytising war on its account. That will make you as silly and annoying as it.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:24am
      - Jules99
        
        Yeah, responding to trolls just gives them the oxygen they desire and takes energy from you. I know exactly who to skim over on this forum – we all do. Don’t waste your time with them – you stand no chance of changing their minds. They are there to wear you down.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:39am
      - softail 1450
        
        Sga, some of the best humor on KB follows Mecca’s posts,please don’t scare him off …
        
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        November 27, 2018 9:07am
  - G152
    
    You forgot kiddie fiddler and murderer
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:25am
  - RiP NZ
    
    Goat humper
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:27am
  - Yvette
    
    “I’ve been to Mecca and you have not!”, Allah (all-hearing, all-seeing) will no doubt have noted your achievement of at least 35 (already) downticks in His Name, against which you have hardened the hearts of the unbelievers of kiwiblog.
    You are wasting your time, ours and Allah’s.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:55am
  - softail 1450
    
    Mecca,”Allah there is no deity but him”
    This proves how primitive your scum religion is ,we here in the enlightened west know that Allah is actually a woman ,you moron, (thanks for the humor though )lol.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:03am
  - Pascal
    
    This thread has me wishing Kiwiblog had a collapse discussion feature. Scrolling past this shit and the comments it attracts is tiresome.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:05am
    - softail 1450
      
      Pascal,don’t take life so seriously Pascal,
      Just scroll over it to the next serious comment.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:10am
- dave_c_
  
  Mmm Krazykiwi,
  She is an absolute traitor.
  Not unexpected – All western leaders are beholden to those implementing Global initiatives.
  There was obviously no intention of listening to, nor delivering what the majority (at referendum time) chose.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:09am
  - KevOB
    
    I wouldn’t like to be in Teresa Mays shoes. The Churchillian Magna Carta independence spirit is to be sought after and applauded but the realities of living in a mixed political world intervene.
    
    Brussels as decision maker had to go: their bureaucrats are on par with our COL. May has to be concerned about leaving a viable UK after Brexit and no one is going to thank any govt severely damaging basic trade and commerce and by implication upsetting everyone through economic forces. Other issues like Gibraltar, cod and Ireland are not as significant as maintaining living standards while making their run for freedom.
    
    There is merit in all points of view but the lines of least damage still leaves room to cut and be loosed. I believe it will work out. The Brits may have to keep their bulldog face on to remind Europe.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:45am
    - Paulus
      
      Surely if I were May I would say to all the Conservative and Irish MPs that this is the best that I can do so if you disagree I will call a General Election and it appears from polls that Labour will take over Britain and at least half of you will be out of Parliament and on the dole, probably for ever.
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:35pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  The deal should be seen as one step towards the ultimate goal of the UK being an independent nation again.
  
  They want to get out completely while minimising economic losses. The way to do that is to make a deal that keeps the current trade arrangements in place but solves immigration and other issues.
  
  Then they can negotiate trade deals with other countries that are conditional on Britain exiting the EU completely. When enough of those are in place they can get out of the EU entirely.
  
  I think that’s a reasonable strategy.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:33am
  - Ross12
    
    Nigel
    Do you seriously think May’s plan/deal will help the UK become an independent nation again??
    
    Krazykiwi has it right with his points labelled –“permanent servitude” and “loss of sovereignty”
    
    NB. I find it amazing that when the deal was made public last week ,they tried to say it was not a deal but a plan towards getting a deal. Now she says it is the only deal available and the EU says there will be no more negotiation. What BS.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:25am
    - KevOB
      
      Servitude is an attitude. If you adopt it you become the servant.
      A true Bull Dog will never be a servant.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:55am
      - Ross12
        
        A true Bull Dog would never agree to the majority of it’s laws and regulations to be made by faceless bureaucrats in Brussels (even the EU Parliament cannot devise new laws/regulations).
        Under this so called deal how much say will the UK have –less than it has now ?
        
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        November 27, 2018 10:06am
- MCos
  
  Comparing Brexit to the situation prior to WWII is a bit melodramatic.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:47am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  May’s deal is really an interim deal, particularly as it relates to trade. Other issues are permanently dealt with including immigration, the applicable law, etc.
  
  Basically May’s deal provides 2 years to negotiate a free trade deal. In the meantime Britain says in the customs union. Presumably if the negotiations fail, Britain just reverts to the WTO, but with much better preparation than currently is the case.
  
  So in my view the May deal is not nearly as bad as you paint, particularly your comment on permanent servitude. It is a fundamentally wrong comment about the deal.
  
  Staying in the customs union for another two years removes the risk of a hugely disruptive exit for businesses and jobs. I understand Britain can negotiate other trade deals in the meantime, but they won’t take effect until the custom union expires.
  
  As December 12 approaches, the minds of MP’s will become very much more focused. There won’t be anything like 90 Conservative MP’s who vote against, as is currently speculated. Realistically more like 30 to 40. They may be offset by Labour MP’s voting for. So the vote will be very close.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:22am
  - Ross12
    
    Why would there be a ” risk of a hugely disruptive exit for businesses and jobs.”
    In terms of trading, if the UK walked away tomorrow why would things change that much except for goods having to go through the same import procedures that say NZ or Aussie goods going into the EU. Similarly for the EU goods going into the UK.
    There would be a little disruption as businesses get used to it, but that happens all the time as changes are made in the business environment.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:13am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Going from zero tariffs to 10% on car exports to the EU will be damaging to British car exports along with all the new border controls. There are many other examples.
      The deal with the interim customs union avoids all that. Which is why the May deal could well get through parliament. All the MP’s now have a reality check. This is the actual deal. They can’t just bluster on theory. Their vote actually matters.
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:40am
      - Ross12
        
        Who said anything about tariffs ?
        I was just talking about the practicalities of continuing trade. The border controls you speak of, I assume are the same that already exist for goods coming from non EU countries.
        What happens after this “interim customs union”? –the same issues you seem to be worried about will apply.
        The MPs had their reality check after the referendum result was announced and my guess is, if they vote for May’s “deal” they will get another reality check at the next election.
        
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        November 27, 2018 10:58am
  - freethinker
    
    If Italy maintains its present stance there may be no Evil Union come March 2019, the shenanigans being revealed over Danske & Deutsch Bank and money laundering Billions combined with the potential of Italy leaving the Euro could well collapse the house of cards that Brussels is.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:57am
  - Justitia
    
    @ Wayne Mapp. There is nothing “interim” about Mrs May’s withdrawal agreement. There is no expiry date, no sunset clause and Britain cannot get out of it without the EU’s agreement. The EU has no incentive to agree to a free trade deal with the UK. Under Mrs May’s terms the UK is a captive market for the EU and has to impose EU tariffs on imports from other countries and send 80% of the revenue to Brussels. Nor is the UK able to negotiate any free trade agreements with other countries. As far as Mr Juncker et al are concerned, what’s not to like? The “deal” also threatens to split the union in respect of Northern Ireland and of course any disputes will be arbitrated by the European Court of Justice. Game, set and match: the UK is stuffed and trussed like a Christmas turkey for the EU under Mrs May’s disastrous “deal”. The turkey also comes with a 39 billion pounds cheque for the EU, money for nothing.
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:28pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Other issues are permanently dealt with including …
    
    … the UK having no future right to withdraw, and having no right to representation institutions, bodies, offices and agencies of the Union while being subject to their regulations.
    
    And you think this is ‘an interim’ deal? I have this bridge …
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:29pm
    - Ross12
      
      Exactly krazykiwi.
      
      “The Prime Minister has repeatedly slapped down calls to improve her Brexit deal and remove the “Irish backstop,” claiming without the unpopular measure “there is no deal”.
      The backstop means that, if a trade deal is not agreed in the “transition period,” the entire UK will be forced to stay in a customs union with the bloc, with no ability to leave without Brussels agreeing. ”
      
      Of course Brussels will never agree –the UK is too important to the EU, financially.
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:11pm
- Harkman
  
  I just can’t believe how poorly she is negotiating. She’s negotiating from a position of weakness, when western Europe needs Britain, because it over consumes and has military power.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:26am
- howitis
  
  The current PM of Britain (just Britain, not so Great) is Treason May.
  
  She is not a bad negotiator.
  This evil traitor has deliberately worked with the EU to bring this about.
  She has worked against the voters of Britain.
  This is deliberate. Make no mistake.
  It is Treason.
  May is no better than Maclean, Burgess and Philby.
  
  Treason May has set Britain up for the status that lead to the American Revolution.
  >> No taxation without representation.
  This is a ‘No Exit Brexit’.
  They are under the thumb of the EU with no rights.
  Sadly Britain was so desperate to enter in the 1960s/70s they took on a poor position.
  Contrast this to 2004 when a bunch of ‘unready’ countries were added to the EU mainly as an ‘FU’ to Russia. These mainly former soviet Bloc countries went in with a deal that the NZ indigenous would describe as ‘sweet as bro’.
  
  Britain under Tony Bliar in 2004 behaved stupidly with that influx of countries to the EU and within a short time 1 million Poles had descended upon formerly Great but by then just moderately OK Britain. More East Euro ‘refugees’ were to follow. It was the beginning of mass dilution. (think of daleks)
  More dumbness was to follow with Bliar working for external masters. Poor dumb Gordon Brown did not have a clue. War criminal Bliar is still working for his masters but now with a great payday.
  
  Basically the Net contributors to running the expensive EU has been Germany and Britain.
  Treason May was a Remainer, or remoaner, as it were.
  She was the wrong person.
  At least Cameron, whatever his faults, stood aside.
  
  May is evil. The 3M of Europe. A Trifecta of evil. May; Merkel; Macron.
  On top of that she called an unnecessary snap election last year that saw the Conservatives throw away the clean majority they (Cameron) got in 2015 and have to grovel to the Irish DUP as a minority Govt.
  
  The evil witch May should be in chains in the tower of London right now with a French guillotining tomorrow morning…since she is such a Europhile.
  Europhile… rhymes with vile.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:36am
cmm

SECRET SECRET
APEC TAPE #13

ONE PARTY OBSCURED BY FLOWER ARRANGEMENT

Karen Pence (KP): So tell me what your boyfriend does.
Jacinda Ardern(JA): inaudible
KP: (choking/spluttering sound) No dear, I don’t mean what he does in the bedroom.
JA: inadible
KP: Yes, I’m sure it is also fun in the lounge and on the new deck. No, let me try again. What does he do professionally, you know, as a job?
JA: inaudible
KP:So he catches fish on TV, eh. What a piscatorial household you have.
JA: inaudible
KP:No dear that does not mean I think you are a piss cat and drink too much. Piscatorial means to do with fish; he can catch them and you can batter and fry them and serve them with chicken salt. It’s from the Latin pisces. You know, like the horoscope.
JA: inaudible
KP: No dear, pisces really does mean fish. It is nothing to do with grabbing a pie. It is pisces, not “pie seize”.
JA: inaudible
KP: Yes you will have to ask your energy minister when you get home.

Research notes: The energy minister is, in fact, a Scorpio. Scorpios are mysterious and secretive. They can pick up on vibes and read people like a book. Scorpios have strong concentration powers.
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November 27, 2018 8:02am
- sooty
  
  Where is JETHRO?
  He been missing from a couple of weeks before the Comrade went duty free shopping in Singers.
  No internet or social media for him.
  Man, he must have been a naughty boy. Never mind he can makeup by doing a lot of lawnmowing. Maybe!
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:14am
  - SGA
    
    LOL – people complain when he’s in the news too much, and when he’s not enough. What is the Goldilocks zone?
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:27am
    - cmm
      
      No, not complaining, just noting the curious recent absence after a year of “look at me”.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:33am
      - SGA
        
        meh – if it keeps you amused, whatever.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:36am
    - Tall Man
      
      I’ll czech it out and get back to you….
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:39pm
  - Inandout
    
    sooty, remember when Key lived in Parnell and his every movement was followed by the media? Neighbours were spoken with and hired protestors gathered outside his house. Cindy lives in a normal suburban street but the silence from the media is deafening; no neighbours in her street apparently. Jethro of course may make flying visits to the stay at home housewife neighbours while Cindy is at work, ostensibly to mow their lawns. We will never know.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:29am
    - tf78
      
      Aren’t they living in Wellington?!
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:13am
      - Tall Man
        
        No.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:40pm
  - Paulus
    
    Expect after a year of nappy servitude he has had enough.
    He appears never to have been in one nest for very long by his statements.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:45am
    - cmm
      
      A year? 4 months more like.
      
      Baybee born June, dad MIA October and nanny installed.
      
      So much for all the feelzy bullshit….
      
      Handing a baby over to a nanny at this age is like sending a 5 year old off to boarding school.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:54am
  - calendar girl
    
    Why have our COL-compliant media gone silent on Gayford-related material? Before his sudden departure from domestic duties, the media never missed an opportunity to involve him in their “news” material.
    
    I’ve never watched the Gayford ‘fishing on TV’ programme – is there a new series back on our screens with him hauling in the big ones?
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:01am
    - sooty
      
      He’s allready caught it!
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:09am
      - Tall Man
        
        Fish…not teeth…..
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:41pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m surprised the Animal Ethics groups haven’t had a go at these Fishing programmes yet.
      
      http://www.animal-ethics.org/animal-exploitation-section/animals-used-for-entertainment-and-as-companions-introduction/sport-fishing/
      
      Imagine the outrage if the PM’s bestie was producing programmes encouraging recreational hunting of mammals.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:49am
sooty

Teachers no pay rise for you! 23mil to teach kids how to ride a bike!
Why, most of them go to school by mommys car!
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November 27, 2018 8:02am
- cmm
  
  Next: Free bike racks for all the people movers.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:03am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Free helmets and Lycra before bike racks, ccm.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:33am
    - Tall Man
      
      Leg shaving to follow…..
      
      Poofs.. 😉
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:43pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    What happens when they all need to learn to drive? A taxpayer funded fleet of Nissan Leaves? This stuff really needs to be left to parents.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:55am
    - igm
      
      If they learn to drive lock your cars up as many will come from families of self entitlement and leeching.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Better check the brakes then.
      
      https://www.noted.co.nz/tech/nissan-leaf-brakes-concern/
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:53am
- Happychappy
  
  It is a slight on families that look after their children, I have seven Grandchildren and everyone of them have had their first two wheeler given to them by my wife or myself either as a birthday or Xmas present and better bikes as they got older. Now we have a Government that wants to pay for everything that the y seem to think the poor deserve out of people’s taxes that they have paid for years to give to some that have never contributed to NZ’s wealth. So by the look of it this Government has got to the stage they want to pay for everything the poor need including a payment to breed.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:14am
- alex Masterley
  
  Asked both of my boys if they wanted bikes for Christmas.
  The response was nah from both of them.
  And both walk/scooter to school.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:40am
- hullkiwi
  
  Recognizing yesterday was day 1 back at work for JAG after 3 months maternity leave:
  
  1. Where is the money coming from? Was this amount earmarked in the budget, or has she raised another pot of money?
  
  2. How are they going to monitor (police) which “deserving” kid will get one of these bikes and not trash it in 5 minutes? Or are the schools going to own/manage the bikes, which means were is the staff resource going to come from to manage the bikes?
  
  3. In addition to the bikes are they going to provide the kids with all the necessary clothing and safety gear?
  
  To the morons who voted for the Red Melons, JAG exemplifies perfectly, why you shouldn’t vote for the Red Melons. If you did vote for them, please go to the nearest GP practice or hospital and get yourself certified as irresponsibly incompotent and then advise the Electoral Commission that you are registering yourself, in order to ensure you will not vote in any future elections.
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:52pm
sooty

Bus use has decreased!
Why!
All the people are now cycling!
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November 27, 2018 8:03am
- sooty
  
  Just as well they spent millions on cycleways, to keep them of the roads. Think how many lives they have saved by not having to ride four abreast in a bunch taking up all the roadway!
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:17am
  - insider
    
    Not one person cycling in today. Thank goodness we have roads able to cope with the additional capacity.
    
    This is the issue the same idiots who want a solar powered grid and cycle powered road network forget: the infrastructure needs to cope with reality not just ideology. The reality is, network peaks are very weather dependent
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:22am
    - Woz
      
      Due to a work project-in-progress, I’ve been frequently driving every day at various times for the last three weeks back and forth along the entire length of one of the major new Christchurch cycleways. Morning and evening rush periods, lunch times, random times in between. Total number of cyclists seen using it? I’d still have more than enough fingers. Yup. I’ve seen, like, one every couple of days. At the most.
      
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      November 27, 2018 11:13am
- fluffykiwi
  
  No need for the trainset either at this rate.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:18am
- alloytoo
  
  They changed the timetables so I went back to using the car.
  
  Cheaper and quicker.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:38am
  - RightNow
    
    Same. Not just the timetable changes but the journey took about 15 minutes extra each way. Just that 30 minutes a day made it more economical to drive in and pay for parking. Add the timetable changes and buses that just don’t turn up and it’s a slam dunk, plus I get to drive in comfort. I really enjoy my commute now, thanks GWRC
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:48am
    - alloytoo
      
      Funny how Auckland transport made the same mistake.
      
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      November 27, 2018 12:36pm
    - Paulus
      
      Early in December Tauranga totally stuffs up, sorry changes, its complete bus routes.
      The new routes are all in a hub system – not from A to B without two bus changes en route – often called a SNAFU system, so nothing new.
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:43pm
- alex Masterley
  
  I have seriously considered using public transport to get to work.
  But, no matter what modes I look at using, outerlink + walking or Train + walking, it takes me 45 minutes to get to work.
  Yet if I drive it takes me 8 minutes (in more or less a straight line) from my home to my office.
  Pretty simple decision really.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:02am
  - sooty
    
    On ya bike!
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:12am
  - flipper
    
    But Alex, did you get the Californian bint’s permission? After 45 minutes
    exercise” is good for you.
    Why didn’t you do as you were told.
    Dunce hat for you: stand in the corner. 🙂
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:06am
  - Woz
    
    I can do a loop to drop my kids off outside the two school gates concerned and then be at the office, all in about the same 8 minutes, Alex.
    
    The complexity of doing it all by public transport doesn’t even bear thinking about.
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:15am
Huevon

Jacinda Ardern and Simon Bridges both very weak on China in media interviews this morning and yesterday. Sad to see our political class so craven in the face of expansionist PRC tyranny. So much sold out, for so little.
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November 27, 2018 8:06am
- Simon
  
  Yep pay outs by CCP to both Labo & National. They are scum.
  
  Huevon if you said this in China your social credit score would drop so far you couldnt even get on a bus. This is who National & Labo have sold out to.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:12am
- Justitia
  
  Yes, in case you missed it yesterday, Simple Simon sings for his supper:
  
  https://youtu.be/i3axbj3Elt8
  
  In Simon’s mind it seems a great democracy which underwrites the West’s freedom is equivalent to an increasingly oppressive totalitarian state which interferes directly in our domestic affairs.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:14am
  - KevOB
    
    There is no proof China has interfered in any way with NZ’s internal affairs.
    China is smart and takes a long term view taking stakes in production and resources for the future. That, with our consent.
    They don’t bluster around on the world’s stage trying to be policemen running and sponsoring wars on the scale of the USA.
    We don’t have to understand or like every countries practices but tolerance enables us to beneficially live together.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:44am
    - kowtow
      
      Your naivity , or worse , willful blindness is astounding.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:52am
      - KevOB
        
        Experience with freedom–no tram tracks.
        
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        November 27, 2018 9:58am
    - Tall Man
      
      Ignore them..Paranoid morons is a polite description.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:48pm
  - brett68
    
    Simon needs to go to the gym, starting to look a bit like Billy Bunter
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:54am
    - Tall Man
      
      Got a mirror fat arse?
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:48pm
      - softail 1450
        
        fall man ,getting really pissed at 8.48 pm….
        
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        November 28, 2018 6:09am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    China is a scary giant on our borderlands. Beating our chest about their bad behaviour is only going to get us squashed. Better to just make decisions and processes to quietly defend against their known malevolence without publicly shaming them – that will achieve nothing but damage for our economy.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:06am
- Huevon
  
  1938 Simon Bridges – Germany and Japan are our key trading partners and besides we don’t comment on the internal affairs of other countries.
  
  1939 Jacinda Ardern (as the panzers roll into Poland) – we don’t take sides, we have an independent foreign policy.
  
  1945 Japanese appointed Governor of the conquered territory formerly called New Zealand – konichwa, this way to the mines, slaves.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:26am
- GazzaW
  
  Have you any concept of the impact to our country that the loss of exports on a preferential basis to China would have on our economy? Almost as much as the loss of of weapons exports to Saudi Arabia would have on the US economy had Trump not practised political expediency over the Kashhogi ‘incident’.
  
  This is a very delicate situation for NZ that transcends politics.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:29am
  - Justitia
    
    There is a strong argument to be made that our dependence on commodity based exports to China is holding us back. But it’s nice to know that Chinese interference in our domestic affairs, intimidation of academics and members of the local community, aggression in the South China Sea, the incarceration of a million people in concentration camps, organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience etc all “transcend politics” in today’s New Zealand.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:52am
    - GazzaW
      
      Like it or not Justitia that’s the position we are in. Exactly as the US is placed with its exports to Saudi with its lack of political freedoms, secret police, oppression of women and the murder of foreign journalists.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:06am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Does the ant dictate the behaviour of the elephant? Or does find ways to live with it? China has 21 cities with greater than NZ’s population, and they are a military dictatorship who give few fucks about their own people, let alone lesser non Han like us.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:11am
    - KevOB
      
      Please show evidence of China’s interference in our domestic affairs. We have many Chinese in NZ and we must expect China to have contact with their Nationals. That is not interference in NZ’s affairs of state. All countries do it. Trade representation and opportunities do not count either.
      
      We have at least one Chinese now in our Parliament. They would have been selected as representatives of both their locality and ethnic community background. One has even been accused of being a former military officer in China. Every MP has a background: it’s where they are now in the foreground that matters.
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:10am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        We currently have 2 MPs that were born in Mainland China.
        Raymond Hua – Labour
        and
        Jian Yang – National.
        
        Previous Mainland Chinese-born MPs:
        Kenneth Wang – Act
        Pansy Wong – National
        
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        November 27, 2018 10:22am
      - Tall Man
        
        Like you I am comfortable with a few Chinese joining our political system.
        
        As for the paranoid idiots, the sooner they fuck off the better.
        
        No evidence of manipulation by Chinese, just crap from the idiots.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:52pm
  - kowtow
    
    And that is exactly where China likes us.
    
    Dependant and submissive.
    
    The typical bully’s tactic.
    
    It was always going to be a mistake for us to become so reliant on one market. It does not make economic or political sense.
    
    Diversify or die.
    
    ps The USA will still be there , long after China descends again into chaos.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:54am
    - KevOB
      
      Choke on a diversity of Greens?
      
      History makes the long term survival of the USA suspect. They have done as the Romans and concentrated their efforts and resources off shore. The nation is now practically ungovernable. Their expenditure is out of control and potential large taxpayers have made sure their resources are very minimally available to the State.
      
      China has resilience demonstrated over several thousand years. They have their periodic massive changes too but have history and patience to wait for their next great change. The USA is new and a bunch of scattered colonists. They don’t have the depth to draw on nor the wide domestic geographical base.
      
      I wish both the USA and China well. More importantly I wish the USA would retreat and sort itself out before it further disintegrates. I am not anti-USA but pro-healthy-USA.
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:31am
  - MCos
    
    We would have little influence over China by threatening to withdraw dairy exports.
    On the other hand America supplies Saudi with huge amounts of military ordinance that they need.
    Of course there’s more to it than that related to security in the region, but one gets the impression Saudi could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it (or Knightsbridge)
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:07am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Libyans got away with murder in the 1984 when member of their London embassy shot a british policewoman:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Yvonne_Fletcher
      
      There were 8000 Brits working in Libya at the time, and a huge UK business involvement in Libyan oil, so the response was very very gentle.
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:16am
      - rockape
        
        I seem to remember the SAS storming the Embassy and killing 5 Libyans, One of my corporals was involved in the raid. Hardly letting them get away!
        
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        November 27, 2018 10:22am
      - CrazyIvan
        
        rockape – that was the Iranian embassy in 1980 after it was taken over by Arab Iranian wanting an autonomous region in Iran.
        
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        November 27, 2018 12:31pm
    - GazzaW
      
      I’m not suggesting that we ‘threaten’ China by withdrawing our exports. It’s more of an issue if they threaten to cancel our imports!
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:36am
      - MCos
        
        We have no leverage over China.
        On the other hand China has leverage over all our mates in the Pacific.
        The NZ learnt the hard facts of small country non influence in the aftermath of the Rainbow Warrior bombing. French state terrorists set off a bomb in Auckland, were unexpectantly apprehended and we were forced to let them go. France placed sanctions on NZ. Our ‘friends’ in the US, UK etc sat on their hands.
        NZ even had a period of self loathing that probably still persists.
        The Government will be very reticent about blaming China for harassing Professor Anne-Marie Brady until it’s 99% confident they’re responsible and can point to the evidence.
        
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        November 27, 2018 10:19am
sooty

Hopefully today is the day they hold Slease Gallopaways feet to the fire!
Has he been put in whitless protection!
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November 27, 2018 8:06am
- Poppa
  
  He could be hiding behind a pillar all day
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:09am
  - igm
    
    Maybe he will do as Carter did and jump out a window. Hope he chooses ninth floor!
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:16am
    - CHFR1
      
      Downtick because no matter how much I dislike the guy I don’t want him dead.
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:34am
      - Tall Man
        
        Feeling lonely?
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:54pm
    - RF
      
      Or Sky tower. With a parachute … maybe
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:34am
  - VicParking
    
    Don’t you mean hidding behind a Pillock. ana “The Duck”
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:39am
  - freethinker
    
    Wood that be a pillar of salt or other white powder?
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:10am
- cmm
  
  Even if he is rolled today he has won.
  
  He has managed to keep his position for almost two months after he should have resigned over this issue.
  
  Since a minister earns approx an extra $500 a day, that means he has stuffed an extra $25k in his back pocket.
  
  If that’s losing, it ain’t all bad.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:16am
- KevOB
  
  He is unlikely to take his seat in the House until next year.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:48am
dave_c_

Mmm Krazykiwi,
She is an absolute traitor.
Not unexpected – All western leaders are beholden to those implementing Global initiatives.
There was obviously no intention of listening to, nor delivering what the majority (at referendum time) chose.
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November 27, 2018 8:07am
secondcumming

from the *WTF* file

A few months back, JAG said she was on a mission to reduce the NZ Road Toll to ZERO……..now she seems determined to DOUBLE it!!

Go figure……
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November 27, 2018 8:07am
- sooty
  
  It’s all because she has not showen her face in parliament for the last six months.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:20am
  - GazzaW
    
    ……..and haven’t we missed her contributions?//
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:39am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Back Justin time to make Twyford look good in comparison.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:40am
- VicParking
  
  But But But She has had a Baby
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    Baby?
    
    Are you sure?
    
    Damian reborn……..
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:56pm
- Woz
  
  Who’s JAG?
  
  Wow! See how much I’ve missed her?
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:19am
Keeping Stock

Kudos to Gerry Brownlee – he’s baked a Christmas cake, constructed a box for it out of kahikatea, and is auctioning it on TradeMe to raise money for the Salvation Army.

Bidding has been brisk, and is already up to $1000. Nice to see a bit of Christmas cheer from the big fella.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?archive=1&id=1845949900&fbclid=IwAR1qD0aFoZPxUgZ-eDO7KFJwWHHbKOwYJa2w6Bkp8myQVeJ2nEwOx_AZ4nM
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November 27, 2018 8:08am
- sooty
  
  A man handy with his hands.
  How many in the COL could do that?
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:22am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    Evidence suggests that a fair few are handsy though
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:28am
  - GazzaW
    
    Our Gerry is a qualified chippy.
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:40am
    - sooty
      
      Someone who did something, not start on the public tit as soon as they left school and have no life, work experience!
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:16am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      So is Jacinda
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:18am
  - freethinker
    
    The COLL members are very handy using their hands on others for pervy pleasure and discipline.Talking of pervs you Wood think the Labour party pervs name Wood have leaked out by now?
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:13am
- Jules99
  
  National are losing the PR war – they need to make themselves look more appealing. Maybe Collins should knit a jumper.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:43am
Simon

Secret police study finds crime networks could have laundered over $1B through Vancouver homes in 2016

The study of more than 1,200 luxury real estate purchases in B.C.’s Lower Mainland in 2016 found that more than 10 per cent were tied to buyers with criminal records. And 95 per cent of those transactions were believed by police intelligence to be linked to Chinese crime networks.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4658157/fentanyl-vancouver-real-estate-billion-money-laundering-police-study/

Wonder what the number is for Auckland.

Rampant Chinese linked criminality.

But it has got out of hand. Hence the recent and long awaited Anti Money laundering laws.

Long stalled by National because given NZ’s chicken shit economy, GFC, and massive government spending and by any means they were happy for the extra cash flow into the economy.
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November 27, 2018 8:09am
- hullkiwi
  
  Simon you are to China & the CCP what Hugh is to housing & Notsofast is to criminal justice. Find another song to sing….
  
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  November 27, 2018 7:11pm
stigie

Quiz:-
Who was passionately kissed by a bloke on the 2005 election night ?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/_enCcP867MGK5KNF_w4HIXKebVM=/620×349/smart/filters:quality(70)/arc-anglerfish-syd-prod-nzme.s3.amazonaws.com/public/IXTIXIWFNJHJBGRM7PKEAQKL2E.jpg
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November 27, 2018 8:11am
- cmm
  
  Well there goes breakfast….
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:19am
- Nostradamus
  
  NZ PM scoffs at ‘smutty’ rumours about husband
  
  The cover of [Investigate magazine] features a silhouetted woman with a pistol and bears the caption “Smoking Gun Issue … Peter Davis and a mystery man”. It has run photographs of Davis being hugged by a man, and apparently being kissed. … The pictures were taken from television footage shot on election night … when Davis arrived with Clark at the Labour Party’s campaign headquarters.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:20am
- igm
  
  Clark’s husband of convenience was the recipient from another male — goes to show why they wood have Labour indoctrination camps . . . and taxpayer-funded planes for errant high profile Labour MP’s spouse evacuations from US!
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:21am
  - sooty
    
    Does he still live in an old caravan in the back section?
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:23am
  - Nermal
    
    While I really don’t care about Clark & Davis’s sexual orientations one way or another, I am grateful that they did not make an issue of it, and use it for political purposes
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:39pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Good comment, although it does concern me that her relationship with H2 is concealed but it allows an enormous amount of power to an unelected person.
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:41pm
      - sooty
        
        Same with Jethro, into cabinet meetings etc!
        
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        November 27, 2018 4:55pm
- Inandout
  
  The other man’s name has been mentioned somewhere, but we watched that pashing on TV3, late at night. The footage of course has long gone, unless someone recorded it; maybe it will be discovered in some deceased estate belongings.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:35am
  - stigie
    
    “but we watched that pashing on TV3, late at night”.
    
    Just as well when most kids were tucked away in bed when the sordid scene took place !~
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:51am
    - igm
      
      Decent people find this behaviour sordid, but Labourites go to Indoctrination and Appreciation Camps to become involved and accept this filth.
      Wood you believe it!
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:59am
Manolo

The United States government is right. Modern-day Huns must be defeated:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6429561/Trump-threatens-decisive-action-Mexico-does-not-deport-caravan-migrants-hundreds-storm-border.html

President Trump threatened to permanently close the U.S. border with Mexico on Monday, saying he’ll take the drastic action if members of a swelling migrant caravan are not deported back to their Central American homelands.
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November 27, 2018 8:17am
- artemisia
  
  The President is also threatening to withdraw aid to Mexico. The Mexican police made a token effort to stop the swarm of illegal migrants at their southern border, but then stepped back and allowed them through.
  
  Why? Probably because they thought the US would not stop them and they would swell local economies on their way through.
  
  Bad choice.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:29am
  - Nermal
    
    They were taking action until being paid to do otherwise.
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:40pm
artemisia

So officials have advised Mr Twyford that his proposed new Healthy Homes Guarantee Act standards would provide little, no or unstated benefit to tenants, with increased cost to tenants via rent looking as if it vastly exceeds benefits. And that is without taking into account the rent increases already happening due in part to shortages as landlords take their ball and go home.

Still, those landlords who decide to stay in the business get to upgrade their rentals paid for by tenants. What’s not to like.

Papers obtained last week under the Official Information Act show that up to $7000 of extra spending may be required for each of the 588,700 rental properties in New Zealand and that this will have little benefit, Tenancies War spokesman Mike Butler said today.
……..
– Insulation of up to 70,000 properties to 2001 standard of R1.9 in most of the North Island expected a benefit of $64 a year per property.
– Heat pumps in living rooms achieving a temperature of 18C in 180,000 properties showed a cost of $33 a year. No benefit was cited.
– Extractor fans in kitchens and bathrooms incurred a cost of $48 per property. No benefit was shown.
– A cost of $48 per property was cited for moisture-proofing and drainage work in 192,000 properties. No benefit was cited.
– Draught-proofing tape around windows and doors was recommended with a claimed benefit of $49 per property if 30 percent of rental stock required it.

tenancieswar.nz/2018/11/26/extra-rental-standards-to-cost-7000-per-house/
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November 27, 2018 8:18am
oldpark

Today is the day the Trade Union owned Present Government introduces the second reading of the controversial workplace relations bill in Parliament.
Of course one wonders if the present gang of no hopers in the Peters/CTU selected Government have forgotten who put them there.
The way they are treating Primary and Secondary teachers in their completely justified work and pay claims is not a good look.
The effeminate Hipkins known as the Minister of Education knows fugh all about Education.
The Trade union owned Workplace Relations Bill and payback to them will very soon become employment law.
Yes it will be endorsed by the pests for all reasons and seasons Peters and his Party.Maybe some nostaglia for him. Turning Industrial Employment Relations back to the disastrous 1970s. That was the decade he came into NZ Parliament and up to now his input and well being for NZs will run parallel with the about to be enacted with the disastrous Workplace Relations Law. What a Legacy and fugh all to be proud of.
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November 27, 2018 8:22am
DJ Ward

News from The Feminist Republic of NZ.

The government has added another blatant sexist law to its agenda.

………..

13C Employee may raise pay equity claim
(1)
An employee of an employer, or a group of employees who perform the same, or substantially similar, work for an employer, may raise a pay equity claim if that employee or group of employees considers that the claim is arguable.
(2)
A pay equity claim is arguable if—
(a)
the claim relates to work that is predominantly performed by female employees; and
(b)
it is arguable that the work is currently undervalued or has historically been undervalued.

………..

This is blatantly in contempt of the bill of rights.
The Atourney General has not been informed as is the legal obligation. Because they are so sexually bigoted they fail to see they are bigots.
Men have groups with traditional jobs with the same issue, pointed out in a submission you can read at Menz, at “another sexist law on the way”

The law is presented by Mr Galloway and the Ministry for Women.

Simon has handed in his man card ages ago so silence from national.

The last part “is arguable” is a terrifying concept as it sets no limit of proof. If you have an argument however erroneous you win.

There is no excuse for this sexual bigotry in law.
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November 27, 2018 8:28am
- Inandout
  
  A male can say he is a female and claim the booty..simple.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:51am
secondcumming

I think I banged a Chinese celebrity last night.
She kept screaming “I’m Wei Tu Yung”
Like I was supposed to know her name…..
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November 27, 2018 8:29am
- VicParking
  
  Are you going to change you name to ‘thirdcumming’
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:48am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Did she think you were Sum Yung Gai?
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:13am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Mei Luv Yoi Lung Timie.
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:22am
  - Woz
    
    She knows him as Wun Hung Lo.
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:23am
  - oldpark
    
    Or Joe Slocum. Or is it Joe Cumslow?.
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:24am
cmm

I was reading stuff’s take on what Sroubek’s lawyers etc are saying.

If ILG changes to to deport, they have said they want a judicial review and have also said they want to appeal on the grounds of giving Sroubek refugee status.

They have also said the minister cannot change his mind unless there has been some significant information left out of the application.

Well first off, the refugee status thing won’t fly. He traveled back to Europe on business, so there is no credible threat to his life.

Of course there’s material information that was left out. There always is with a criminal past as long as your arm. They can easily find something serious enough.

But that does not stop the judicial review and appeal etc, so Sroubek’s here for a few more years regardless.

If any of the surrounding rumor is at all accurate, I can’t see Labour wanting this anywhere near the courts.

It’s going to get messier…
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November 27, 2018 8:31am
- Paulus
  
  Will he be here longer than the Fat German – who is still here ?
  Probably.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:51am
- Inandout
  
  This is a tricky situation for Cindy, and I can see the white powder floating around like a busy bakery area. It will be interesting to see on which MP it settles on.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep, that’s how I read things.
  Lawyers are going to do well out of this case.
  
  I reckon the MSM are going to go very quiet on this issue.
  I’m predicting some suppression/sub judice ruling in the near future.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:09am
- freethinker
  
  Hopefully the parole board will not grant parole until full sentence is served.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:34am
- Nermal
  
  We really need an immigration detention facility like the Aussies have. Kim DotCom could reside there while he’s fighting extradition.
  
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  November 27, 2018 1:45pm
DigNap15

I’d like to see National promise to rescind just about all of the COL’s new laws and any future ones.
I’d also like them to promise to STOP immigration by Muslims (to keep us safe) and Indians to stop more corruption in our businesses and tax take etc, and their bad treatment of women.
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November 27, 2018 8:31am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15, looks like you’ll be in permanent opposition with your dumb downed and election promises and policies.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:09am
  - Tall Man
    
    “dumb downed”..your eloquence is mind numbing…
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:01pm
- MCos
  
  The Blackcaps would never have won the first test if you were running the country.
  Indian immigrants took just about all the second innings wickets and Patel is also a Muslim.
  There’s also a Zimbabwean and South African in the team plus the coach is from Ch’ch.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:19am
  - septic skeptic
    
    90? 90 after being 61/1! 90! FFS!!
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:51am
    - MCos
      
      Still two days to go!
      We’re still in with a chance.
      
      Having said that, it was pitiful last night.
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:23am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        To be fair, Yasir Shah bowled beautifully on a wearing pitch. The ball that Ross Taylor got in his first innings, second ball faced, was an absolute jaffa; it drifted in the air, pitched on leg stump and took the top of the off stump. It was pretty much the perfect leg-spinner’s delivery.
        
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        November 27, 2018 11:36am
Manolo

Will our resident Muslim and apologist for the religion of peace vouch for this savage?
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/afghan-migrant-who-got-asylum-to-avoid-being-raped-has-now-raped-a-15-year-old-swedish-girl-himself/

Ruhollah Karimi, 17, was granted asylum in Sweden last year. As grounds for asylum, he stated that he is afraid of being sexually assaulted in his native country Afghanistan, where there is a tradition of “dancing boys”, who are gang raped by older men.

However, less than a year later he participated in a gang rape of a 15-year-old Swedish girl. He was convicted, but not expelled – because he is still in danger of being raped in Afghanistan.
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November 27, 2018 8:39am
- stephieboy
  
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  Manolo. I think this captures the flavour and veracity regarding your link, Voice of Europe :
  
  “Website claims “Teletubbies” were used to push a pro-communist and pro-gay agenda”
  
  THE BBC used hit late 90’s CBBC children’s show ‘Teletubbies’ to push a leftist pro-Gay and Pro-Communist agenda, it has been claimed.
  CommieTubbies – a Teletubbie themed conspiracy website says the youngest Teletubby ‘Poh’ is red, an obvious allusion to Karl Marx.
  
  https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/website-claims-teletubbies-were-used-to-push-a-pro-communist-and-pro-gay-agenda/
  
  LOL!
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:50am
  - Tall Man
    
    Awesome steffy girl. Get to down tick you and I don’t have to read your bullshit.
    
    steffy is a girl
    
    ardern is a liar
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:03pm
- kowtow
  
  Sweden still has not formed a gubmint. All because the main parties refuse to deal with the one party that would defend their borders and future .
  
  The political elites across the west have abandoned their own citizens in favour of third world scum . Trump stands up for America and his own media as well as the world’s media and elites spend all their energy attcking him.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:03am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  “17”, yeah right. In UK 2/3rds of refugees claiming to be children were really adults.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:24am
Paulus

Hooray Hip Hip Hooray
MaryAnne Genter is back in Parliament along with her accutrement baby.
And guess what she has only spent $23,000,000 today on buying new bicycles.
Please Ms Geneter I would like a new bicycle – Green of course would be the right colour.
Mum’s latest partner says it will help me to deliver his stashes so nobody will notice.
Then he can flog it off to his mates for P money and nick another one from some other mug.
Perhaps it would be easier to have two so I can keep one for now.
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November 27, 2018 8:41am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Her name’s Julie-Anne but that doesn’t stop her from being useless.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    CM , useless?
    
    startling similar to you!.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:11am
    - pentwig
      
      stoopidthing
      enjoy being nasty do you?
      tsk tsk
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:35am
    - Woz
      
      Ah Stephanie, you’ve had your morning powder and sharpened your wit pencil, it’s plain to see. A day of mirth beckons for us all.
      
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      November 27, 2018 11:26am
      - sooty
        
        Got off the wrong side of the goat, this morning!
        
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        November 27, 2018 12:23pm
    - freethinker
      
      Hopefully the parole board will not grant parole until full sentence is served.
      
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      November 27, 2018 12:50pm
    - freethinker
      
      Takes one to know one!
      
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      November 27, 2018 12:52pm
    - Tall Man
      
      steffy is a girl
      
      ardern is a liar
      
      Please list any redeeming features you think the californian tart possesses.
      
      While you’re at it..list a couple of the toothey bitch’s redeeming features..just to give us all a laugh..
      
      You are such a simpleton giving us every opportunity to squash you like the festering bug you are
      
      steffy is a girl
      
      ardern is a girl
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:08pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy, i see you are drinking again septic,and so early, you need a proof reader when you get liquored up .
      Im sure you could be thrown off a tall building for
      getting pissed in your culture ,be careful ..
      
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      November 28, 2018 6:19am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  And did you see the consulting firm behind Auckland light rail M R Cagney, has as its principal economist Peter Nunns, who is the partner of Greens Associate Transport Minister Julie Anne Genter.
  
  Corrupt as fuck.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:39am
Fletch

I see the leftie idiots are comparing Trump’s use of tear gas to wartime chemical weapons attacks –

Updated list of Nations that have used gas on civilians

•Italy, Mussolini (1934)
•Japan, Hirohito (1937-39)
•Germany, Hitler (1940-45)
•USA, Nixon (1961-71)
•Egypt, Nasser (1963-67)
•Iraq, Hussain (1978-91)
•Syria, Assad (2012-13)
•USA, Trump, (2018-??)

Flashback – Obama did the same thing in 2013 when migrants rushed the border, in the exact same place.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-border-patrol-rock-throwing-san-ysidro-2013nov25-story.html
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November 27, 2018 8:48am
- Jules99
  
  And France, Macron, 2018
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:28am
- rockape
  
  Me and many others once a week training squaddies to put their respirators on!
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:44am
DigNap15

Bus use is down in Tauranga

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=12152246

The idiots running the system say some of the issues are increased population and congestion.

You would think that would make more people use the buses.

Have they thought that the main reason people don’t use buses is that they are inconvenient and don’t go to where people want.

The same with bicycles, Taurang is spreard out so not many people can ride a bike to work and risk their lives and get wet and col in winter. And its not an option for many older people.

Just build more roads and stop new subdivisions till they have built the roads first.
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November 27, 2018 8:57am
- MCos
  
  Can’t cycle to work in Tauranga because might “get wet and col in winter”
  
  Well, ain’t that a shame.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:23am
  - Tall Man
    
    You’re welcome to do it….
    
    Ahh, all talk, no do eh?
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:10pm
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Further indication of an ingrained culture of sexual harassment in the Young Nats.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/11/teen-girl-allegedly-forced-into-kiss-by-auckland-young-nats-event-attendee.html

Are these events merely for grooming young women? Seems that way.
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November 27, 2018 8:58am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  But the young Labour sex camp is OK?
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:11am
- Tall Man
  
  Disappointed you couldn’t be there are you?
  
  17 year old girl gets invited back to a man’s apartment..so not at the National event.
  
  Man tries to kiss girl…girl runs away so no sexual assault yet….
  
  So let’s see…
  
  Girl not drunk…not like camp molestation
  
  No hand down knickers….not like camp molestation
  
  Only one event…..not like camp molestation..4 assaults weren’t there?
  
  So I guess all labour interns are disappointed that they didn’t get a chance to show their National counterparts how a real sexual assault is done
  
  Note to all young women…it’s unwise to head back to a man’s apartment if you don’t know that man.
  
  muttonbird is a creep
  
  ardern is a liar
  
  and I guess muttonbird already know about steffy’ssexual preferences as they both seem to be graduates of camp molestation.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:12am
  - stigie
    
    Muttonhead trying to fabricate shit again like they do at the Stranded..?
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:19am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Note to young ladies. If you head back to a mans house after a party, you can garuantee he only wants to have a coffee with you.
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:27am
    - Nermal
      
      Has anyone ever actually seen an etching?
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:48pm
  - Paulus
    
    Who went to Newshub to tell all ? – assume the little girl told Tova O’Brien as she is the best conduit against the National Party.
    Are we to assume that she went along with friends uninvited in to a Pub where she drank orange juice.
    The bloke will get his arse kicked hard in Court as should be.
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:52pm
- Happychappy
  
  But Muttonhead they haven’t hidden it like Labour did and while it is a assault they suspended the offender and have left it to the police to handle and gave support to the victim.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:15am
  - sooty
    
    What about the sex camps supplier of the booze?
    Why did the adult at camp go to bed early?
    Was it their own bed, with their own partner?
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:25am
- igm
  
  Mutton: Grow up, this is a media beat-up, and it has no substance . . . just like a gutless wimp such as you.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:20am
backster

I despair at the new culture of empathy with criminals and sexual deviants that our Police are required to show. But seriously can it be as bad a reported here…https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108847556/familys-worst-nightmare-auckland-youth-worker-turned-sexual-predator….We have come to expect that 11months home detention is considered a reasonable sentence in place of the 5 years imprisoment once expected. The Judge is un-named. The pervert of middle eastern appearance.
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November 27, 2018 9:01am
- DigNap15
  
  HD is useless.
  He can still have friends and girls round.
  That is no punishment and no disincentive!
  
  He may have ruined that girl for life!
  She may have mental problems, as many abused children do.
  
  He was in a position of trust!
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:15am
- igm
  
  Looks like an imam . . . they are the senior perverts of Islam.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Mulitalo is a common enough surname in Samoa.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:27am
- peterwn
  
  Judge Mary-Beth Sharp accepted the guilty plea in July and almost certainly would have been the sentencing judge. As well as not mentioning the Judge’s name in yesterday’s Stuff article the journo did not mention that the judge would have issued a ‘strike’ warning, although the judge may have done that when accepting the guilty plea (it is better a ‘strike’ is issued as soon as allowable in case the offender re-offends prior to sentencing). Maximum penalty for this is 10 years (if the victim had been under 12yo – would have been 14 years).
  I would have thought that it was well within range of a 2 – 3 year prison term. On the other hand home detention + no internet while on home detention + strike + inclusion in predator register is a pretty tough sentencing package.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:29am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Peter, you say the Home D was reasonable. Do you still hold the view given this scumbag’s lack or remorse?
    
    The sentence certainly should be appealed.
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:17pm
    - peterwn
      
      I said the package was reasonable. Forbidden to use internet would be the worst part.
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:56pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Judge Mary Beth Sharp
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:29am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Is this Judge a member of P.A.P.A.?
    
    She should be removed immediately.
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:11pm
- Jack5
  
  Home detention is a piffling sentence for this offence.
  
  He should have got prison, and if eligible, been deported at the end of his sentence.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:33am
- cmm
  
  An update:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166741
  
  He gave the victim a letter which, apparently proves he is remorseful. Then the bugger gloats about not going to jail.
  
  If that’s remorse…
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:35am
  - peterwn
    
    He should keep his trap shut – the Crown may appeal the sentence.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:45am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      This Paedo should be deported immediately back to shithole of origin.
      
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      November 27, 2018 12:13pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      We have a handful of these bastards here now. Sultan Ackbari ( repeat child rapist while on bail) is still f×÷king here on good behaviour bond!
      
      This country is f×÷ked.
      
      And when commie mule signs the migration compact the welcome mat will be rolled out for all of these predatory monsters to flood in.
      
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      November 27, 2018 12:18pm
dave_c_

#RecordBreakingGlobalCooling #GlobalCooling NASA data show that global temperatures dropped sharply over the past two years.
Not that you’d know it by the way MSM continuously push the warming mantra at every opportunity.
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November 27, 2018 9:05am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  
  https://rclutz.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/giss-anntemps2017.png
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:36am
- backster
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTaNoiC-buI&t=0s&list=WL&index=33….Although so far NZ has managed to escape the worst extremes the rest of the world has experienced, the author consider NZ the scariest place on earth to live due to being on the ring of fire, being overdue for another massive volcanic explosion, and having only one electric grid with exposed transmission, as well as being riddled with Quake fault lines.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:14am
  - Nermal
    
    It’s only going to get worse once the plastic in the ocean gets sucked down between the tectonic plates
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:53pm
- KevOB
  
  It’s getting hard to hide the lack of warming.
  More:
  
  https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/us-national-climate-assessments-and-us-temperature.png
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:22pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    there’s lots of copies of all those previous temperatures now.
    The only way left is to keep on homogenising raw data or to write papers saying the heat is hiding.
    
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    November 27, 2018 5:22pm
lastmanstanding

In a few weeks 2 important events occur that will have a negative impact on all NZers.
In early December the UN Compac on Refugees is ratified. Australia has refused to sign. So has a number of other countries. This will mean that NZ will have to pick up the slack.
Instead of 1500 refugees a year I pick 5000. And remember this doesn’t include the families and hangers on that always follow later on ‘Humanitarian” grounds.

Then there is the Paris Agreement to be ratified in Poland. Again Australia together with US China India and others wont sign.

The cost is US$100 Billion a year. Again this means NZ will pick up not only its share but also some of the share of those who refuse to sign.

Both measures are designed to further Cindys UN career. Nothing to do with NZ.
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November 27, 2018 9:06am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Of what benefit to the nation would so many refugees be?
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:45am
  - dave_c_
    
    I guess we could all feelzo good about the prospects – not
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:03am
  - kowtow
    
    No benefit to Dunedin.
    
    These clowns pushed to get us hundreds ( and in future it will amount to thousands) of them and now say they’re surprised that there’s a housing crisis here!
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/council-may-need-help-fund-social-housing
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:17am
  - Nermal
    
    Votes
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:53pm
- wiseowl
  
  LM
  It’s a sad day when we have 120 MP’s supposedly representing New Zealanders and our country, yet not one has put their hand up in protest at this handover of our sovereignty to an unelected body of third world globalists.
  National are a major disappointment and if they have not been following scomos response and absorbing the possible consequences they are as bad as the rest.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:47am
- freethinker
  
  A great opportunity for National to announce their pledge to repeal retrospectively all the COLL legislation .
  
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  November 27, 2018 1:00pm
  - Tall Man
    
    They pretty much have….
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:14pm
Rich Prick

America’s very own Golly Gee/Julie Anne Jenter/Marama Davidson goes full retard.

The 29-year-old self-described Democratic Socialist referred to the hundreds of migrants attempting to rush the border at the San Ysidro port of entry in San Diego, California, on Sunday, saying the migrants are no different from the Jews who fled persecution in Nazi Germany.

Yeah, whatever sweetheart. Question: if capitalism is so evil, and socialism so glorious, why are the caravans headed to America and not Venezuela?
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November 27, 2018 9:15am
- Jules99
  
  Their country of origin might be upset to be compared to Nazi Germany. I suggest that a career in international diplomacy is not for her.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:32am
- howitis
  
  It’s Ok!
  Upper Hutt Posse are sending a 3,000 strong military force to help these country invaders!
  
  I think the invaders are trying to escape socialism/Marxism and embrace capitalism (before it dies out completely per Winnie) ) but I’ll get back with confirmation on that.
  
  Busted Grape Face Hagar will be going there as a ‘War Correspondent’ paid for by his Family Trust fund and Stephenson will support him from a coffee shop in Cancun.
  
  PS: Has anyone heard, since Upper Hutt voted to be TPPA free, what its current stance is on the LBGTCCP TPP that is now OK for lefties?
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:18am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Apparently you can get millions from Jewish billionaires, pass through several perfectly stable nations, get assistance from NGOs along the way, have your journey documented by a media wholly in your favour, and still turn up at the border of a western nation claiming “asylum.”
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:51am
Jack5

Tonga has signed China’s “Belt and Road” agreement and besides deferment of China loans for five years nine Tongan sports teams are to be trained into China.

It’s time to reduce, even cut Tongan migration to NZ. If they want to be a China satellite, let them settle in China.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/376883/tonga-wants-to-grow-china-exports-under-belt-and-road
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November 27, 2018 9:17am
- Harkman
  
  China’s wasting their money.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:28am
  - Jules99
    
    They’ll have a military base there in no time at all when Tonga can’t pay the loan (which is the plan all along).
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:34am
- kowtow
  
  The Nats signed us up too.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:06am
- KevOB
  
  Lovely agreeable country. We had our opportunity but China probably looks more attractive long term.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:55pm
harvey wilson

My sources say this is a labour plant to discredit National

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166768
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November 27, 2018 9:18am
- Jack5
  
  It’s getting to the stage where “young” branches of the political parties won’t be able to have alcohol at their functions. It will be political party gatherings for business, and heels up at non-party gatherings.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:28am
  - dave_c_
    
    I believe they will be alternatively offering Coke, Fanta, and other ‘healthy’ options.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:33am
    - Colville
      
      Coke is going to be in short supply this year.
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108652703/new-zealands-largest-cocaine-bust-found-in-banana-shipment
      
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      November 27, 2018 11:58am
      - Fletch
        
        Whew, for a moment there I thought u meant the drink….. ?
        
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        November 27, 2018 2:14pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Without clapping….
    
    Too disturbing for our little flowers.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:16pm
- MrTips
  
  Well just reading it makes it clear the alleged offence took place at a private residence, not at the actual YoungNat event. And certainly not on a youth camp which the PM actually attended.
  
  And on the subject of the PM, am I detecting a change in photo attitude by the media? Check out the video still of Socialist Cindy on this webpage. Not the Womans Weekly style is it Newshub!!?
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:30am
  - dave_c_
    
    Indeed – It is now becoming far easier to read the facial expressions.
    Much easier to determine when she has no answer to serious questions, another when she is bullshitting us, another when she’s trying to appeal to the hoi polloi with infants or children, and yet another when caught out in a lie.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:37am
- Jules99
  
  Be interesting to see the CCTV footage. Story does smell a bit odd. In fairness, the Labour incident is mentioned at the bottom of the article.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:39am
Chuck Bird

InSight has landed!
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November 27, 2018 9:31am
- dave_c_
  
  Where ? Where ? In the atlantic ocean ?
  They’ve no more landed on Mars, than they have on the moon.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:40am
Harkman

Good news! A hot blonde put something in my letterbox.
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November 27, 2018 9:31am
- Harkman
  
  Oh bad news folks! It was only a Duncan Webb propaganda pamphlet. Get this he’s claiming a “$5.5 billion surplus,” hilarious that’s like Jack Lovelock’s daughter claiming to have a Olympic 1500m gold medal, she inherited it! ? Back page “Christchurch takes off” WTH? With building consents taking at least 12 months, everything done here this year was decided by/under the previous government. Actually many of my family work in the building industry and they are all seeing signs of a slow down here. What the Council and Central Government are doing now because they’ve over employed in the reading sector, is simply ripping up recently surfaced roads just keep them doing things.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:43am
- kowtow
  
  More fun if you put something hot in her box.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:15am
EAD_TWO

Anyone else notice the ramping up of the gay propaganda? This story of a schoolboy homosexual in Sydney “coming out” at assembly is doing the rounds of social media and the MSM.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/teenager-comes-out-as-gay-in-sydney-catholic-school-assembly

We live in an age where telling an audience of schoolboys that basically you’re into anal sex with other random men is “stunning and brave”, but saying you wish your people could survive in your own homeland is “beyond the pale”.
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November 27, 2018 9:33am
- Woz
  
  Oh yes, it’s been gays and trannies all over. From the pregnant “man” in Dunedin, to Stuff full of queers sharing their public toilet woes, to the bull lesbians hijacking Seven Sharp, to school assemblies abolishing segregation of the sexes, to… Christ, where will it end?
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:40am
  - sooty
    
    No changing sex untill it had the income stream!
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:30pm
MCos

Part of a tweet by Simon Bridges with promises for next Nat administration

✓ Have no new taxes in our first term
✓ Not add any more excise tax to petrol in our first term

Pro tip

Don’t promise things you won’t do, particularly taxes. All governments do and then raise them anyway.
Promise things you will do. They can always be kicked down the road.
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November 27, 2018 9:34am
- Dave Mann
  
  What about scrapping any CGT, reinstating the oil & gas exploration, stopping the increased refugee influx scrapping the plastic bag ban, stopping penalising landlords, halting the KiwiBuild fiasco in its tracks etc etc etc?
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:21am
  - MCos
    
    National has a track record of vehemently opposing stuff, but leaving it in place when they have a chance to reverse the legislation, starting with the Social Security Act of 1938.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:29am
    - Tall Man
      
      Thanks labour HQ but he has gone on record numerous times statimg the CGT will be dumped.
      
      Too hard for a National hating idiot to absorb but there it is….
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:21pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Try to keep up dave, he has already stated the CGT is a gone burger.
    
    Let’s see where the next few months take us.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:23pm
MrTips

I call bullshit on this human CRISPR news . Chinese scientists make shit up on a massive scale and this rightly deserves scepticism and scorn until he publishes the data and shows the children.
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November 27, 2018 9:36am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s just the start. Chinese leadership are pretty amoral. They’ll be figuring out how to do it for higher intelligence babies (big competitive advantage) and for clones of powerful (to give them nice compatible harvestable organs)
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:52am
peterwn

Meanwhile over at Whaleoil, Simon Lusk is mouthing off about National’s internal polling presumably with the aim of destabilising Simon Bridge’s leadership. It must be a bit more difficult with Jami no longer available as an information source and an attack vector, and Cam seemingly out of action.
What is interesting is Simon L’s articles this morning are not paywalled (his ones are usually paywalled) meaning he wants them to have a wide circulation.
At a guess (I know no more than the average person), the internal polls would show National on 43 to 45% or so, NZF hovering at 4%, and Simon as preferred leader (across all parties) 10% or so. There would most probably be other politically sensitive poll questions to assess what stance National should take on various issues and to help with policy formation (eg scrapping of any Labour’s CGT legislation).
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November 27, 2018 9:44am
- Poppa
  
  I have no such optimism Peter. I would not be at all surprised if National have dropped into mid to late 30’s.
  
  I say that purely because Simon does not cut it with Mr & Mrs Average. In fact I am yet to meet anyone who likes him
  
  I am willing to lay some money that he will be replaced next year
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:52am
  - DigNap15
    
    I like him,
    But at the moment Labour is untouchable with all of its give aways and the Baby.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:21am
    - Longknives
      
      Baybeeee!
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:38am
    - Inandout
      
      Labour are not untouchable, they are presently unreachable. They could be smashed using parliamentary privilege, and sometimes we need a person with Muldoon’s savagery just to sweep away the bloody PC atmosphere that pervades this country. There is a rightward trend throughout much of the world, despite pockets of sickly liberalism we are attuned to in NZ.
      
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      November 27, 2018 10:44am
    - peterwn
      
      That is why the likes of Louisa Wall think they can say what they like, they think they are untouchable, just like the hare thought he was untouchable in his race with the tortoise. Just let them live in their wonder world.
      
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      November 27, 2018 2:02pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I like him as well.
    
    You are just buying into the fear that labour have of him.
    
    He has them rattled so we get posts like your pushing a bullshit agenda.
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:26pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Whale has been off air (nothing under his byline) for about 3 weeks – since the end of the Blomfield case.
  Perhaps he is lying low to avoid a flensing at the hands of a judge.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:54am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Uptick from me. I’m not interested in Whale Oil as I stopped reading his blog years ago…. but your creative use of the word ‘flensing’ was brilliant! Cheers
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:25am
- KevOB
  
  More price crunches are yet to bite. Further the hornets nest they have stirred up with union pay demands will impact us all badly within 12 months. Grant produced a fake surplus out of revaluations but he hasn’t a money tree to shake down. The expectations are going to be hard to manage. Now its another pay hike for the low level hospital staff. Others will want their relativity maintained.
  
  The house wives have or are turning. They see the waste and lack of control over expenditure while they make do on less. This COL is also close to being bitten on the backside by the international economic situation.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:43pm
cmm

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/motoring/news/nzta-to-test-nissan-electric-cars-after-suspected-break-failure/ar-BBQ7QqX?li=BBqd5YO&ocid=mailsignout

“NZTA to test Nissan electric cars after suspected break failure”

How many writers, editors, proof readers looked at this and still a spelling error in the headline?

I suppose journalism courses no longer mark people down on trivial things like spelling because that would crush the wee petals.
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November 27, 2018 9:48am
- Rich Prick
  
  They’re broken people.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:57am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Them’s the breaks, I suppose.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:00am
  - cmm
    
    I think you mean they are brakened.
    
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    November 27, 2018 12:19pm
- Manolo
  
  The decline started years ago. Today they do not even know the meaning of “trivial”.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:01am
  - Tall Man
    
    Our coalition is stacked with trivial people 🙂
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:27pm
- dave_c_
  
  Shh – Dont mention the spelling – Language like that may already be defined as ‘hate speech’ – How dare you.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:06am
- Longknives
  
  I read the other day on Stuff that the All Blacks “aren’t used to loosing this many Tests in a Season”.
  
  Jesus Wept!
  Do these kiddie ‘Journalists’ even know how to use a spellcheck?
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:16am
  - freethinker
    
    I doubt they could spell if correctly.
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:09pm
- RalphT
  
  Proofreaders? When did a news site last employ proofreaders and sub-editors?
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:29am
  - Inandout
    
    RalphT, proofreaders (usually sub editors) disappeared in the 1990s.
    
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    November 27, 2018 10:46am
- howitis
  
  ….I suppose journalism courses no longer mark people down on trivial things like spelling because that would crush the wee petals….
  
  I know what wee petals are because there are lots of them around.
  
  Green Pardy MPs have T shirt :-
  “51% Petal/49% crazy bitch.
  Don’t push me”
  
  but
  What is this ‘trivial’ you speak of?
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:31am
  - MH
    
    travail
    
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    November 27, 2018 2:45pm
- peterwn
  
  There was a manager who ‘marked’ inward letters schoolmarm style before passing them to subordinates for action. He surely had better things to do with his time.
  
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  November 27, 2018 2:07pm
dave_c_

Just off to get the popcorn to enjoy as I tune into question time today.
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November 27, 2018 10:31am
Fletch

All the feminists on Twitter are upset by a guy’s post –

Unnatural hair colors in woman are a warning signal to stay away,

Its an example Aposematism-the phenomenon of poisonous animals in nature advertising their toxicity and lethality

Animals like Poison arrow frogs, venomous snakes, they have bright colors and it lets other animals know to stay away from messing with them

When you see a woman with red blue green purple rainbow hair, its a sign of mental illness and derangement

LOL.
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November 27, 2018 10:34am
- Inandout
  
  Fletch, I once had a renting neighbour who was a flame haired woman, almost cartoon coloured. The poor woman had a succession of male partners until finally she was seen to have a female co renter. Though still crimson haired, she has finally found a sexual partner that suits her purpose and appears equally unstable. If a female has hair like a roman candle exploding, she is either a dyke or seriously troubled. Add tattoos to complete the picture.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:06am
  - kowtow
    
    Did the collars and cuffs match?
    
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    November 27, 2018 11:13am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “When you see a woman with red blue green purple rainbow hair, its a sign of mental illness and derangement.”
  
  That would go a long way to explaining the mental state of many female characters in Japanese anime.
  
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  November 27, 2018 1:53pm
  - nasska
    
    Rubbish. They’ve found that having “red blue green purple rainbow hair” attracts the most handsome squid! 🙂
    
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    November 27, 2018 2:42pm
- Tall Man
  
  Good man, looks fucking stupid.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:29pm
- softail 1450
  
  Fletch ,KBs laugh of the day winner…….
  
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  November 28, 2018 6:38am
Niz

I heard Andrew Little on the radio arguing for a reduction in the MMP threshold from 5% to 4%. He cited the Conservative party missing out altogether after getting something like 4% of the vote but no electorate seats. He seemed to think this wasn’t fair.
I tend to think that this is _exactly_ why the threshold shouldn’t be set too low, and that it (just) did its job perfectly. Imagine if that whackjob party had got anywhere near government.
Any chance the referendum will ask us if we want to _increase_ the threshold?
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November 27, 2018 10:52am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Andrew Little once again displaying his stupidity.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:10am
- Rich Prick
  
  I don’t think Little cares for the Conservative Party at all. He’s just doing Winston’s bidding.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:15am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like 100 Mps
  And 1% threshold and no other rules.
  That way its very simple, no rorts etc.
  
  But of course there may be some loony parties voted in, but they only have 1 or 2 seats.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:47am
- Paulus
  
  Peters has already got the OK from the secret agreement to drop to 3% threshold, but the Greens still want 2%.
  The MMP Commission has only be slightly talked about so the media can say it is what we want.
  I assume that G Palmer will lead the Commission.
  Will be formally announced over the Christmas break with the decision by the end of February.
  
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  November 27, 2018 2:02pm
  - KevOB
    
    The last thing NZ needs is to reduce the MMP thresholds.
    I propose increase party threshold to 8%.
    Personal bond by each member including list members of $100K.
    Proof of personal assets of each member of min. $800K net.
    Minimum age of any member at date of election: 4o years.
    Maximum length of Parliamentary service 18 years.
    Maximum age at election date 67 years.
    
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    November 27, 2018 3:20pm
- Jack5
  
  It’s worth repeating. MMP stems originally from the pre-World War 2 electoral system of Germany, under which Hitler was elected.
  
  When the Western Allies returned self-government to the people of West Germany, the West Germans reformed it, including adding the 5 per cent threshold. The aim was and is to help prevent the chaos that existed in the German parliament in the 1930s.
  
  Besides the 5 per cent threshold to be eligible for what we call party seats, the Bundestag allocates “party seats” to parties which win at least three of the equivalent of our electorate seats.
  
  If you hate NZ’s MMP now, you will loathe it if the threshold is reduce to 4%. Any change should at least be subject to a vote by all at the general election.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:11pm
Biscuit

And so the 12-game Carlsen-Caruana World Chess Championship is ‘over’.

Lemme recap the results:

Game 01: Draw
Game 02: Draw
Game 03: Draw
Game 04: Draw
Game 05: Draw
Game 06: Draw
Game 07: Draw
Game 08: Draw
Game 09: Draw
Game 10: Draw
Game 11: Draw
Game 12: Draw

A great Championship for ‘Draw’, eh?

There has to be a winner, mind, so on Thursday a.m. NZ Time we head into Tie Break country:
• Four rapid games (25 minutes for each player with an increment of 10 seconds after each move). The player with the best score after four rapid games is the winner; otherwise:
• Up to five mini-matches of best-of-two blitz games (5 minutes plus 3 seconds increment after each move). The player with the best score in any two-game blitz match is the winner; otherwise:
• One sudden death ‘Armageddon’ game: White receives 5 minutes and Black receives 4 minutes. Both players receive an increment of 3 seconds starting from move 61. The player who wins the drawing of lots may choose the colour. In case of a draw, the player with the black pieces is declared the winner.
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November 27, 2018 11:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hard to understand Game 12.
  
  presumably Carlsen is going to make his mark in the speed games.
  
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  November 27, 2018 11:32am
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    I think so. Carslen decided not to take the risk. He fancies his chances in the speed games.
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:04pm
    - Manolo
      
      Glad to see so many chess followers here. Long live Chess, the King of Games!
      
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      November 27, 2018 1:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

So Labour MP Louise Wall doesn’t
” want any f**king terfs at the pride parade.”

but she does:
“want everybody to go. I want our corporate sector to go.”
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/376894/louisa-wall-explains-terf-comment-suggests-police-wear-ceremonial-uniform

Anyone willing to explain her logic to me?
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November 27, 2018 11:29am
- Rich Prick
  
  Leftie logic. I hope that explains everything.
  
  Everyone = everyone – people I don’t like.
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:01pm
  - Nermal
    
    Women’s logic.
    Leftie logic.
    Oxymorons
    
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    November 27, 2018 2:03pm
- Lance
  
  Logic is an old straight white mans field (and so must be shunned)
  It’s about the feelz
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:01pm
- Longknives
  
  So Louise wants Police to wear their ‘Ceremonial’ Uniform?
  Their far more ‘Formal’ Tunic and White Gloves??
  
  What an odd and contradictory woman she is…
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:39pm
  - MH
    
    what no batons ?
    
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    November 27, 2018 1:35pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Worn internally maybe??
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:32pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Anyone willing to explain her logic to me?
  
  Sure. To trans rights activists, “everybody” doesn’t include TERFs, because TERFs aren’t human and deserve to die, not to join your parade – as elaborated at great length on this illuminating site.
  
  Looking through the examples on that site, it’s kind of funny how many of these wanna-be women think being a woman involves threatening to punch feminists in the face or make them choke on your cock. Ironically, they sound more like the very much male incels or red-pill types than women.
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:46pm
  - MCos
    
    Pretty harrowing stuff . . . .
    
    Not the only people who get this sort of hate come their way. Ask Golriz Ghahraman
    Times have changed since social media came along. Before that it was messages made from cut out newspaper headlines pasted onto sheets of paper, dirty phone calls and grubby notes scrawled on front doors.
    
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    November 27, 2018 6:04pm
- insider
  
  The way I understand it is that people such as Ms Wall believe that it is an irrefutable fact that if biologically male but you declare yourself female, you are one. No it’s, no buts. This ability is a fundamental human right, so is undebatable -even though it in turn confers rights/privileges that women gained despite opposition from males.
  
  Therefore it is untenable to them for anyone to raise their head and say that it’s really not quite that simple, and the impacts of such an approach should be debated by society (particularly by biological women who might feel their rights are being diminished) as it is a significant change that goes against the social constructs humans have developed and lived by over tens of thousands of years.
  
  If people do raise such issues, people like Ms Wall seem to think it is appropriate to shout them down, label them, deny them access and declare their views as akin to thought crimes.
  
  Ironically many of those people probably are/were Ms Wall’s allies on other social issues over the years. Now they are the enemy and she has more in common with a group dominated by pale, stale, middle aged formerly males.
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:07pm
VicParking

NASA has announced that the Mars lander has had a Ticket slapped on its side. Cameras reveal its for parking on a Cycleway.
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November 27, 2018 11:45am
- MH
  
  Milky way next?
  
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  November 27, 2018 1:34pm
Lance

Trevor Mallard launching an investigation into parliamentary bullying…. irony alert
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November 27, 2018 12:03pm
- Biscuit
  
  Lance, Trev toiled long and hard during his trip to Japan that coincided with the All Blacks’ game(s) there.
  
  Mucho Sushi, Sashimi and Sake was consumed with his Japanese counterpart so he could, first hand, get all the details of a similar Japanese investigation.
  
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  November 27, 2018 12:59pm
- Tricati
  
  So the biggest bully in parliament wants an inquiry into bullying – The place has turned into a farce as you just couldn’t make this shit up.
  
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  November 27, 2018 2:27pm
  - sooty
    
    Will they put in a safe room for the petals?
    
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    November 27, 2018 4:59pm
Northland Wahine

Sorry my arse… you sexually assault a 12 year girl while working as a youth worker then post on social media “joking” that you won’t be going to jail? 11 friggen months home D?!

Hope next time he sticks his penis into someone’s mouth they bite the fucking thing off.

http://nzh.tw/12166741
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November 27, 2018 1:20pm
- KevOB
  
  A most unpleasant character. He may well get into trouble again. His long term outcome is problematical.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:12pm
- cmm
  
  NW: I see there’s now a petition to put the bastard in jail.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166974
  
  While I agree he should be in jail, the kangaroo court mentality is a bit of a worry.
  
  What next? Trial by Facebook/Tinder like app?
  
  Enough left swipes and you go to jail.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:40pm
  - KevOB
    
    I prefer to leave it to the trial judge. They have reports from a wide range of officials including the police recommendations. Sentencing is a risk and they have the offender before them. The same offender with the same offences may get a different sentence at a different time and circumstances.
    
    Generally most of the officials and the defendant’s lawyer will agree on the present outcome. They may have their misgivings but they have to weight up the likelihood of rehabilitation, the need for public safety and the cost of a mis-sentence institutionalsing someone so they are a permanent future cost along with justice being seen to be done.
    
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    November 27, 2018 7:15pm
- cmm
  
  Perhaps it is time to start a wall of shame for dud judges.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:50pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I agree, I did think about starting one.
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust already has a website.
    But it gets very little publicity.
    
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    November 27, 2018 5:47pm
MH

I don’t wish to be the harbinger of conspiracy faux news but the rumour mill has it that a mock up of the Pike River mine portal has been under construction at the old Avalon studios. A wax charred model of Winston has been seen to be carried into the studio along with fellow look alike actor Andy Little carrying a copy of the 3 strike match regulation in a non reusable plastic bag. Mme Ardern has been also sighted lugging around a solar powered electronic detonator in Naive’s mobile pram. I will not bring you any latest news updates as it happens rather than give credence to such rumours.
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November 27, 2018 1:31pm
Poppa

I see Simon is hogging questions again today.

I hope he makes a better job of it than he has in the past, he has completely wasted the opportunities presented to him on a plate.

They need to keep up big pressure on the Sleaze Galloway affair & not let it wither & die
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November 27, 2018 1:54pm
- stigie
  
  SLAG very grumpy in question 3 today ?
  
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  November 27, 2018 2:25pm
  - burt
    
    Perhaps he’s feeling the pressure of having made ~~her~~ the immigration ruling against all rational outcomes.
    
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    November 27, 2018 3:37pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Michael Woodhouee seems to be on to it.
      
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      November 27, 2018 5:48pm
- insider
  
  Wonder what has been going on with the complicit mother? Seems like she has got a residence visa too
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:11pm
- Morrissey
  
  Did somebody say “Sleaze”?
  
  http://i.imgur.com/wT4XtDj.gif
  
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  November 27, 2018 5:08pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Yes, they must have been talking about you.
    
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    November 27, 2018 5:24pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Ha ha ha ha ha! Oh now that was a good one, Cap’n!
      
      Mind if I write it down?
      
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      November 27, 2018 5:27pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Suit your fucking self. Hope you can find your crayon.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:28pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You stupid old fuck, Cap’n—I use a keyboard, not a crayon.
        
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        November 28, 2018 9:37am
- Wired-one
  
  He was great in question time today, he owned Ardern. I want to see more of that Simon. Be nice if our media covered abit more of this too. Ardern and her angry fake concern face needs to be on full display to the voting public.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:28pm
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    He was great in question time today, he owned Ardern.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBQvt-t6NcA
    
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    November 28, 2018 9:39am
Jack5

? Kiwiblog posters will be lining up to join the family sponsorhip of refugees, as highlighted in today’s Christchurch Press by Tony Blackett, executive director of Amnesty International New Zealand.

(The registered name of the charity wasn’t used in the article: Amnesty International Aotearoa New Zealand Incorporated.)

Amnesty had a noble beginning, championing the release of political prisoners. Now it likes just another Leftist international organisation trying to pull down international borders.

For quite a few years, not all has been well with Amnesty. For example, Irene Zubaida Khan, the Bangladeshi who headed Amnesty from 2001 to 2009, was given a payout, at first secret, of more than $NZ 1 million. Khan’s deputy, who resigned the same month, was given a payout of more than $NZ600,000.

The Press and Stuff report:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108669948/we-can-make-a-difference-for-refugees-one-family-at-a-time
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November 27, 2018 2:13pm
Fletch

The truth about the migrant caravan. 95% of them are male, and they are not escaping violence in their own countries. They are coming to the U.S for jobs and to study. The reporter in the linked video asks them straight up. And they are being helped by U.N organizations with transport, food, medicine etc, and also organsations such as ‘People Without Borders’ who do not want borders and are helping the migrants flout U.S laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwAnqPoYdSg

In other words, it’s all set up. These people are well organized and they have an agenda. And they are spending big money to try and push these people into the United States.
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November 27, 2018 2:40pm
- burt
  
  That being the case the UN will be well organised to help them out when they get turned away at the border.
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:35pm
- MCos
  
  The bloke who made that doco was on Tucker Carlson about ten days ago. He said this
  “We know there are some Leftist groups. I know it’s – it’s – it’s forbidden to say that Soros is part of it. But Soros has, in fact, funded at least some of those groups in the past.”
  For maximum effect slip Soros into the conversation, but don’t be too emphatic that he’s invoked when you haven’t got a clue.
  Personally I wouldn’t know one way or another who’s involved with this caravan, but it’s certainly vague enough for anyone with a barrow to push to get some mileage out of it.
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:42pm
Niz

When’s JAG having another baby? She’s been back long enough.
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November 27, 2018 2:58pm
Surely Knott

Put it on your Santa List. Jordan Peterson tickets available. Town Hall Feb 18 unless Phil Goff doesn’t approve. https://www.ticketmaster.co.nz/Dr-Jordan-Peterson-tickets/artist/2467707?tm_link=artist_artistvenue_module
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November 27, 2018 3:05pm
- Wired-one
  
  Guarenteed to be protested by the usual suspects.
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:30pm
burt

Anyone know if the rumors about Clarke Gayford recently buying a Ferrari are correct ?
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November 27, 2018 3:34pm
- rangitoto
  
  Must be good money in lawnmowers these days
  
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  November 27, 2018 3:45pm
Fisiani

Why do health professionals pronounce menin GO coccal properly and non -professionals and newsreaders always mispronounce it meninJOcoccal?
G followed by O is always pronounced HARD G as in GOLD, GOT, Gonorrhea, and Goal
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November 27, 2018 3:45pm
- insider
  
  Maybe because it is not a consonant on its own or connected to the the O. It is joined with the n as an ‘ng’ cluster (as it is in meninges) which has a soft g. The O is part of a separate syllable so the rule doesn’t apply
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:20pm
  - Fisiani
    
    no g followed by an E is often but not always soft as in J GERM
    
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    November 27, 2018 4:54pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I had never noticed….
  
  so I’ve run to my Dictionaries…
  
  SOED…Meningo – with a hard g
  
  Cambridge Dictionary online
  has 2 pronunciations
  British – dj (softg)
  US -hard g
  https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/meningococcal
  
  And when in doubt…go to the Chambers Dictionary (Edinburgh)
  men-ing-go-kok’l
  
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  November 27, 2018 6:26pm
RF

Jeez… the great unwashed would be marching in the streets with garden hoes and pitchforks if this was correct.

I take it that trout mouth will not been following in John Keys footsteps and donating part of her salary to the poor.

She would be too bloody mean….
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November 27, 2018 3:47pm
secondcumming

Well, butter-my-butt and call me a sandwich……..who would have guessed?

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1067221525797965824
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November 27, 2018 3:52pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Secondcumming:
  
  butter-my-butt and call me a sandwich
  
  I strongly advise you to be careful what you wish for – someone (not me I hasten to add) might accept your offer!
  
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  November 27, 2018 4:24pm
Manolo

A stark contrast:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-kicked-the-sluggish-economy-into-high-gear-1543175630

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said last month that the U.S. is experiencing “a remarkably positive set of economic circumstances.” The superb numbers speak for themselves, but who gets the credit?

For eight years under President Obama, the growing burden of government suppressed the economic recovery that should have followed the recession of 2008-09. Mr. Obama nonetheless has claimed responsibility for today’s boom, asking Americans in September to “remember when this recovery started.” Yet it wasn’t until President Trump took office that the economy surged. His administration’s pro-business policies—cutting taxes, slashing regulations and encouraging energy production—released the pent-up dynamism of American capitalism. The result is a rising tide that is lifting boats across every class and region of the country.

The last recession officially ended in June 2009. During a typical recovery, the economy grows at a rate between 3% and 4%, and the Obama administration predicted such a surge in its 2010 midsession review. It never came. The “recovery” of those years often felt much like a recession. In the postrecession period under Mr. Obama, gross domestic product grew an average of 2.2%.

GDP growth staggered along at 1.5% in Mr. Obama’s final six full quarters in office. In contrast, growth doubled to 3% during Mr. Trump’s first six full quarters. And through three quarters of 2018, the economy has grown at a 3.3% clip and is on track to hit at least 3% for the full calendar year. That would make this year the first with 3% growth since 2005.

To get an even clearer picture, compare the contiguous periods of the Trump and Obama years. Accelerating growth is having an impact on the job market. By August of this year, Mr. Trump’s pro-business policies had driven job openings to their highest level since 2000, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics started tracking the number. With business optimism on a two year streak of record highs, the increase in job openings over Mr. Trump’s first 21 months has averaged an impressive 75,000 a month. Over Mr. Obama’s last 21 months in office, the number of job openings increased an average of 900 a month. That’s less than 1/80th of Mr. Trump’s average.

Even more impressively, the current surge in job openings has occurred while a record number of people are already employed. During Mr. Obama’s last 21 months, the number of employed Americans increased an average of 157,000 a month. Under Mr. Trump, the increase has accelerated to 214,000 a month, a 36% improvement. The number of employed people in October hit 157 million—the highest ever.
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November 27, 2018 4:18pm
Captain Mainwaring

Whaaaattttt?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/108768332/mudfish-discovery-throws-spanner-in-wastewater-works

Progress comes to a halt for the sake of a few grotty little mudfish.
The country’s gone mad.
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November 27, 2018 4:24pm
Jack5

The diversity dividends continue in Melbourne.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-granted-unprecedented-order-to-find-alleged-youth-offenders-20181127-p50ikn.html
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November 27, 2018 4:25pm
Rodney Randall

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108901466/sex-offender-still-a-doctor-after-13-indecency-convictions

“Judge Jane Farish hopes Corrections will move a sex offending doctor to a prison closer to home.”

Poor wee recidivist sexual offender, yet to be struck off medical register, needs to be moved closer to wife and mother because 10hr drive down south too punishing.

Maybe swap the prison cell for Judge Jane Farish?

What is it with these libtard judges?
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November 27, 2018 4:53pm
- howitis
  
  ah yes, the diversity dividend.
  Feel the burn!
  
  Your article RR : –
  …A judge continued to refer to Rakesh Kumar Chawdhry as “Dr Chawdhry” at his latest sentencing because even after 13 indecency convictions he has still not been struck off….
  
  and also today:-
  …An “obsessive” ex-boyfriend who stalked and messaged young Auckland mother Arishma Chand has been found guilty of her murder.
  Rohit Deepak Singh has been on trial at the High Court in Auckland charged with the murder of Chand, who was found stabbed to death at her south Auckland home in November last year.
  On Tuesday, after less than an hour of deliberation, a jury delivered its verdict finding him guilty of murder….
  
  Less than an hour of deliberation. It was pretty obvious then.
  Another Indian male murders a female in her own home/bedroom in New Zealand.
  Still they are allowed to pour in.
  
  >>Add in Venod Skantha for Amber-Rose Rush in Dunedin – not yet convicted but we know the pattern.
  >>and the murderer of Christie Marceau = Akshay Anand Chand .
  
  Get used to it
  That divided will keep on paying out.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:05pm
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    And that female Indian personal trainer who died in the water at Wellington.
    
    Such a nice culture
    
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    November 27, 2018 9:02pm
Morrissey

LEST WE FORGET:
Day of the Dumb Bastards

I forgot to remind everyone a couple of months ago that it was the fifteenth anniversary of what will go down in history as the st000000-pidest day in New Zealand history. (And, yes, that’s really saying something).

https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/day-of-dumb-bastards-sept-26-2003.html
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November 27, 2018 5:30pm
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  Superseded by every day Morrissey, Muttonhead or stephie log on here.
  
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  November 27, 2018 5:43pm
- MrTips
  
  Ah Morrissey, good to see you. Got time off from the job as a peep show window cleaner? Nice.
  
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  November 27, 2018 6:07pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Love it, Tippers!
    
    Thumbs up buddy!
    
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    November 27, 2018 7:39pm
    - sooty
      
      Piss off wanker. Just because you get no traffic to your site does not let you promote yourself here.
      
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      November 27, 2018 7:56pm
    - MrTips
      
      LOL. You know Morrissey, you got game. You’re like a one legged man in an arse kicking contest, but you got game ?
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:18pm
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  Yep, that truly was a post from a dumb bastard. His name is right at the top.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:33pm
dcrown

The left has a SERIOUS (and deadly) anti-Semitism problem …

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1066842211084627968
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November 27, 2018 5:48pm
- MrTips
  
  She’s mental that one. Absolutely bonkers.
  
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  November 27, 2018 6:10pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Could you develop your case at least a little, please?
    
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    November 27, 2018 7:43pm
    - MrTips
      
      Ask her if she knows where the Ukraine is…..
      
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      November 27, 2018 8:20pm
      - softail 1450
        
        Mr Tips ,ask her if she knows where her pocket is,that would be a challenge for that nutter,thankfully she will be out on her boney arse in 2 years.
        
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        November 28, 2018 6:50am
Philview

It has probably been mentioned but this proposed investigation into bullying. No doubt Mallard know where he is going with this and part of a wider political plan from Labour.
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November 27, 2018 5:48pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Philview:
  
  I support a bullying inquiry – but one focused on Labour’s Maori caucus and its unconditional love for Mega Fightery – despite a report finding that she bullied a staff member!
  
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  November 27, 2018 6:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Could be why the investigation is dated back to 2014, encompassing 3000 individuals.
  One person’s obnoxious behaviour will become lost amidst a load of smaller complaints.
  
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  November 27, 2018 6:06pm
  - nasska
    
    I’d prefer to see the investigation backdated to 2007.
    
    It would then include the incident where it was “believed Mr Mallard struck Mr Henare during a heated argument in a lobby outside the parliamentary debating chamber and the pair had to be prised apart.”
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10471953
    
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    November 27, 2018 6:16pm
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      Nasska:
      
      Here’s a better link with a photo of the Mallard Duck in the dock and a security guard watching on!
      
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      November 27, 2018 7:06pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Quack quack…
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:28pm
- MrTips
  
  I’ll tell you where it’s going. Dirt on Paula Bennett for Winston. The short arsed wanker has been spraying it about that she leaked his pension theft details – how do you get answers? Get the speaker to demand it under the guise of something else.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:24pm
  - Tall Man
    
    My understanding is that winston leaked it himself.
    
    It is a nothing in politics, overpaid, hoping no one would notice, got caught…paid it back.
    
    How could any political capital be made from that?
    
    Now, a witch hunt to find the “leaker”…. ask winston the molester/botherer of first year law students….boys?…..
    
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    November 27, 2018 8:35pm
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      Have you been reading between the lines?
      
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      November 27, 2018 9:49pm
- rangitoto
  
  More money wasted of troughers.
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:53pm
RF

I see the SLAG has given her immigration minister a free pass for his handling of the drug smuggler.

This is a very corrupt Govt so I am not surprised.

One day the SLAGs house of cards will come falling down and she will be baking cakes for Jethro with metal files hidden inside.

What a bunch of tossers.
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November 27, 2018 6:16pm
Jack5

Now Auckland’s Polynesians from the islands are ramping up the racism game.

A Tongan student is reported in the Herald as being prepared to tell an education conference tomorrow:

“Our group wanted to know why all of our education initiatives focus on fixing us, instead of fixing the racism, the quality of teaching, the whiteness of our education system and our schools.”

If they don’t want a Western education, why are Tongans coming to New Zealand? For Western living standards which they wish then to destroy?

Perhaps the Tongan lass should try a Chinese education, given Tonga’s closeness to Beijing. She would find that, well, interesting.

The newspaper further reports: “Year 13 Tongan student Daniel Hopoate said he couldn’t speak any Tongan when he started at the college [Kia Aroha College, with just one white kid among 206 pupils] in Year 7, but was now fluent in Tongan language and dance.

That will win him a good secure job.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12167068
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November 27, 2018 7:53pm
- graham
  
  Another (student) said: “I was racially profiled as a Māori by a white man and was asked where to buy dope.”
  
  This is claimed as “proof” of racism.
  
  My brother was profiled when he was a long-haired Uni student in the late 1980’s, and constantly offered drugs. (He’s never done any form of drugs).
  
  Born to English parents, we’re both white.
  
  News for this student – people are profiled based on how they look. Not just Polynesians; everybody. Get used to it, and get over yourself.
  
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  November 27, 2018 9:16pm
Tall Man

Hopoate…can’t quite put my finger up it..sorry..on it.
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November 27, 2018 8:26pm
- MrTips
  
  The ol’ digit-a-redo manoeuvre..
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:28pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Telling it to the masses:

‘Don’t pay for these idiots’: Duterte wants Filipinos to ditch Catholic mass, pray home instead
https://www.rt.com/news/444931-duterte-stop-going-church/
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November 27, 2018 8:34pm
- nasska
  
  I’m warming to the guy! 🙂
  
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  November 27, 2018 8:41pm
- howitis
  
  The Catholic church has done enormous damage to the Philippines
  There was a good doco circa 2007 on this and this spawned some well written articles.
  I seem to recall it was shown on TV7 (now defunct)
  The Catholic church was directly meddling in politics.
  
  The population exploded significantly with the result being dire poverty.
  This is what the catholic church wanted.
  The Catholic church, with centuries of obsessive control, kept learning skills to their own lot until the rise of the Protestant movement.
  The Catholic Church has always been about oppression and of course its favourite sport is paedophilia. Lots of the pedo priests caught in other countries like Australia, NZ, Ireland, and the US were sent to the Philippines for the pedos to continue their destructive ‘fun’.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/350443/being-a-white-and-catholic-priest-it-s-a-paradise-for-him
  
  The Doolan priests in Philippines had the ear of the population and if a political candidate wanted to bring in wide ranging contraception the Church boys (no ladies, No E.O.E. that church) told its congregation to not vote for these people.
  Blatantly, at the pulpit.
  Ain’t that tax deductibility great. No responsibility for the outcomes.
  They did the same in Ireland until the 1980s.
  They were doing the same in Brazil.
  Why?
  …because after many centuries of doing this the good old holy doolan church knows that if you keep people in poverty, servitude is the bedfellow.
  Education is limited and higher education often out of reach. Kids have to leave school early to help feed the large family.
  
  Opportunity to break the cycle is lost.
  Improvement is kicked to the curb.
  Poor people have little material items and are more prone to make up for that with religion as a filler.
  Often as escapism from the unpleasant lifestyle.
  Drugs go hand in hand with that so Duterte is in the right direction.
  Brazil got past that.
  Ireland has got past that.
  Philippines has not.
  
  The Catholic Church, God bless their black pedo souls, knows that overpopulation leads to poverty and poverty is their best recruiter.
  
  If you want the Devil just add a D to evil.
  Even old white hat Popie Frankie blames the devil and it was the naughty devil that ‘made’ these frocked feckers rape little girls and boys.
  They were forced. It was beyond their control and all the holy doolan church could do is move the rapey feckers on to another parish to allow the devil to make them be naughty with new victims.
  
  Their hands were tied. It was the devil you see.
  Never accept responsibility when you can hide behind lies.
  Jacinda’s Mormon training kicks in here.
  
  This is not Monty Python. This is real.
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-devil/pope-blames-devil-for-church-divisions-scandals-seeks-angels-help-idUSKCN1MI10M
  
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  November 27, 2018 10:00pm
Hugh Pavletich

‘No way in hell would I move back to Ireland’: Emigrant builders have their say … Ciara Kenny … The Irish Times

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/no-way-in-hell-would-i-move-back-to-ireland-emigrant-builders-have-their-say-1.3710835

Thousands of workers are needed but housing and a possible crash are concerns. … read more via hyperlink above …
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November 27, 2018 8:44pm
Rodney Randall

http://www.rightminds.nz/articles/will-winston-and-jacinda-reject-un-migration-pact

“Why haven’t we heard about the Global Compact for Migration here in New Zealand? President Trump made waves when he rejected the Pact, due to be signed this December, nearly a year ago. Israel, Australia, Poland, Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia, Estonia, and the Czech Republic have since either followed suit or signaled that they would also withdraw. The list grows longer almost by the day.

Note that almost all of these nations face direct threats from illegal migration: the USA from its southern border, the Europeans from their eastern border, and Australia from its northern border, and Israel from just about every border.

Here in New Zealand the only party that has released any statement on this Pact has been the New Conservative Party, whose deputy leader, Elliot Ikilei denounced it as reading like dystopian science-fiction.

We know that the National, Green, and ACT Parties are all for open borders, either wanting to prop up the economy with migrant workers or virtue signal by accepting increasingly large numbers of refugees. It’s no surprise that we haven’t heard a peep from that direction.

The silence from the Labour and NZ First Parties is more interesting, as both campaigned against mass immigration.”
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November 27, 2018 8:48pm
EAD_TWO

“As long as Germany and Italy are under their present governments, they will not touch foreign loans, and Germany by her method of Internal economy and trading has eliminated the international financier, and those who make profits by playing with foreign exchanges. That is doubtless why the government is being forced by the “City” [London] to start a trade war with Germany. If the economic methods devised by Germany are successful, and spread to other nations, and if Hitler succeeds in his policy of establishing permanent peace in Europe, the high financier will cease to be able to exist. It is therefore their main interest today to plunge the four powers into war, in order to destroy germany and Italy.”

~ Quote from “The Case for Germany” (1938) by Scottish chemist Arthur Laurie, fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh

https://archive.org/details/TheCaseForGermany/page/n1
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November 27, 2018 8:48pm
Rodney Randall

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108891975/setbacks-for-teen-who-planned-mass-killing-in-christchurch-for-allah

Golf lessons, Mosque councilling and BBQs with judge planned for aspiring jihadi in Christchurch despite some ‘setbacks’

You can’t make this sh÷t up.
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