General Debate 26 November 2018

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wiseowl

Make the world a better place.
Eliminate the EU and the UN.
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November 26, 2018 8:05am
- Biscuit
  
  wiseowl, I agree wholeheartedly re the UN and fail to see a single ‘accomplishment’ it can claim for all the resources that have been thrown its way.
  It, for example, is entirely toothless when it comes to preventing conflicts.
  Mr Trump, of whom I am not the GREATEST of fans, would do well to act on his threat to withdraw from the outfit.
  A more useless entity would be hard to find.
  
  The EU, though, had promise. As a free trading block, I mean. It started on its present slippery slope with the common currency, common judicial system, common Parliament…
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:55am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    If the EU had stayed at being a free-trading bloc, then fine. Instead, it has sought to become a new Central Powers Reich.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:04am
    - Philview
      
      Macron and Merkel have already starting setting up an EU Army to protect Europe from the USA (per Macron’s recent comment). What started as a free trade agreement now has its own army.
      
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      November 26, 2018 1:15pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        That wasn’t in the original script.
        
        All we need now is another Napoleon and it will be all on again. Don’t these Europeans learn anything from their bloody history?
        
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        November 26, 2018 2:04pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Move the UN to Brussels?
    The EU was sold to people, years ago, as stronger together and the formula was presented as a US style of govt.
    EXCEPT France and Germany started to dominate.
    Britain NEEDS out:
    There is an 80 billion pound trade deficit with the EU
    They pay into the running of the EU (Germany is the only other country with a net payment into the organization)
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:05am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    The UN and the League of Nations before it.
    Was set up to prevent WAR
    How’s that been going?
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:07am
    - Biscuit
      
      RW, the League of Nations couldn’t even stop World War II.
      
      The UN would have been just as useless in preventing World War III if the likely combatants hadn’t realised that there would be NO winners in such a war.
      
      How has the UN gone in preventing Second Division (i.e. non-nuclear) wars since 1945?
      
      What wars are going on right now where anything the UN has done has had any tangible influence?
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:18am
  - Philview
    
    The EU is the free trading block that sits behind a massive wall of tariffs. There have been many complaints that its common agricultural policy impoverishes African farmers. The annoying aspect of this is the harping from self defined progressives liberals that the EU is some kind of beautiful creation.
    
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    November 26, 2018 1:10pm
    - Justitia
      
      The EU nearly beggared New Zealand in the 80s. Not only were we excluded from their markets but the EU dumped their surpluses on new markets elsewhere which we were trying to develop as alternatives to Britain. The EU is no friend of New Zealand and we should not get entangled with them.
      
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      November 26, 2018 2:50pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      No worry, the Africans are coming to the EU.
      
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      November 26, 2018 4:14pm
Inandout

Garner had two absolutely useless Mayors on this morning. The Auckland one who talked incessantly, and the Wellington wimp who barely uttered a sentence. I saw those wooden projectiles stored behind Goff and wished someone would shove that multi pronged one on the right of the screen, directly up his arse.
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November 26, 2018 8:05am
- RW Capitalist
  
  The discussion was about the govt. (Twitford) being able to ride roughshod over current laws and by laws, to achieve Phils housing shambles.
  Worse the idiot Wgtn mayor said “I have been consulted”………and you agreed with this??????
  Goofy saying “we consented (not built) 13000 houses last year”
  6 yrs ago it was only 3000
  Q: Why did you pick that year Phil?
  Q: How many in ’16-’17,’15-’16, etc?
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:13am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Correction Phil, I looked it up, it was over 4000, 6 years ago.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:18am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Posted this on general debate 25th instead of here, by mistake.
    “Wonder how Phillis Twitfords housing monolith will go, if you drive all the small builders, plumbers and electricians….out of business by the intro of a CGT?”
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:24am
    - GazzaW
      
      All of those ‘small builders, plumbers, electricians’ and the myriads of other self employed Waitakere Men will be voting National in 2020 if there’s the slightest sniff of a CGT.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:30am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        If they get CGT over the line before the 2020 election, Australia will have a massive influx (perhaps another stadium full) of plumbers, builders and electricians.
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:55am
      - artemisia
        
        How many Waitakere Men still vote Labour? None of the tradies in my family do.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:05am
      - redeye
        
        Bridges just said on a facebook live speech that National would not introduce, and would repeal any already introduced CGT.
        
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        November 26, 2018 12:46pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Simon finally saying ‘no new taxes’ but why only ‘in first term’? https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108860982/simon-bridges-promises-to-not-introduce-any-new-taxes-in-first-term-if-elected
        
        But at least this: “If elected, and if the Government legislated a capital gains tax, National would get rid of it, Bridges said.”
        
        Weird thing: when Labour threatens CGT, Stuff commentators are dead-set against and sound sensible. As soon as National says anything useful, Stuff commentators sound like Labour apparatchiks. Censorship?
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:32pm
    - KevOB
      
      There will be a new monothlithic Socialist Ministry of Works to carry out all building.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:46am
      - KevOB
        
        Locked out of mod.
        
        All the big construction companies are at risk of absorbtion too.
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:52am
      - Paulus
        
        But who will use a hammer – builders are already only doing whatever small jobs they want.
        There are many upgrades going on around just providing good incomes for the traders.
        The major construction companies are all going bust and will continue to do so.
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:31pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    RWC, yes they are talking about the proposed Urban Development Authority.
    Yet again, another well thought through Twitford schme, not!
    
    The plan is to have a central agency that can over rule the Akl Uniyary plan and the RMA to build Phil’s houses.
    
    Problem is even with the current structure we get stupidity in places like Millwater & the HBC where council planning & oversight failed to ensure even basic infrastructure was in place before development occurred, like a contacted sewerage/waste water system. Imagine, spending $1.5mill for property & house development in Millwater and you are required to have a septic tank settlement system on your property!
    
    .. .and we are meant to believe Twitford’s bright idea will deliver an uber authority that will deliver more houses faster.
    
    Yeah right, pass me a Tuis!
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:40am
    - sooty
      
      I am from the goverment. I’m here to help!
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:21am
  - VicParking
    
    What happens after these properties have been sold and the Local Authority is been left to handle two zoning law, two sets of resource management principles in the same street. Its going to be a lawyers honey fest.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:32am
- Philview
  
  This story has been barely mentioned in the newspapers. If the National Party tried to pass a law riding roughshod over local democracy there would be an angry mob on the streets.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:10am
secondcumming

From the WTF file:

I was both shocked and disturbed over the weekend to hear that the Judge hearing Cam Slater’s latest defamation case, is one *Mathew Palmer*……son of ex Labor Prime Minister, Sir Geoffery Palmer.

I thought judges were supposed to be ‘impartial’ …..or am I missing something?
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November 26, 2018 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  am I missing something?
  
  Yes. You have not produced any evidence that M. Palmer acts in a partisan manner.
  
  Matthew Palmer has not been a politician.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Palmer
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:23am
  - sooty
    
    Having a still wet behind the ears father would not help you. I would have thought.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:26am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    Children have been known to hold differing views from their parents. Actually Palmer Snr is not the worst of his lot.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:45am
    - Biscuit
      
      Agreed, Mrs A.
      
      And, no doubt, if Slater doesn’t get the fair hearing he desires he will bleat it up to the next judicial tier…
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:58am
    - dime
      
      “Actually Palmer Snr is not the worst of his lot”
      
      The treaty is a living document. we now interpret it differently every other year thanks to that prick.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:36am
      - MrsAnnie
        
        I didn’t say he was a saint
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:54am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        Dougie Graham ex national had a lot to do with the settlements.
        
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        November 26, 2018 6:29pm
wiseowl

Taiwan has just had an election.
No coverage in our media but they had ten referenda questions.
One was on same sex marriage.It was rejected.
Good on Taiwan for giving people the choice not politicians.
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November 26, 2018 8:09am
- hullkiwi
  
  Wiseowl, not correct. I heard about on Red Radio on Thursday/Friday that Taiwan was to be the first country in Asia to test the notion of legalising same sex marriage. However, the discussion was biased & detracted from listening too hard
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:17am
  - G152
    
    Men are still allowed to be men in Asia.
    Maybe it’ll catch on here ?
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:53am
    - hullkiwi
      
      …and in Thailand, land of the Thai lady boy phenomenon?
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:02am
      - starboard
        
        I bet you have never even been to the Thailand.
        At least the L/B’s pay for the op themselves here, unlike in Aotearoa, formally New Zealand.
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:17am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Starboard, I’ve been to Thailand, but not for that.
        
        However, Thailand (& Asia) have exported their industry to Europe. Where it is problematic in cities such as London, namely in the NHS.
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:52am
  - cmm
    
    Wiseowl is correct.
    
    Yes they did test the notion of same sex marriage, by having a referendum, but it was rejected.
    
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    November 26, 2018 2:48pm
- igm
  
  We should repeal same sex marriages, homosexual law reform, and all the other sleezy laws that were introduced by Labour.
  If they had gone to referendum we would till have a decent prosperous country and not this PC sickly filth we are saddled with.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:18am
  - Viking2
    
    If they had gone to referendum we would till have a decent prosperous country and not this PC sickly filth we are saddled with.
    
    Ah no. We would have a country full of bigots and those that want to beat up people unlike themselves who though no fault of their own have screwed up DNA.
    
    We would have a country full of God botherers who were stuffed up and used their God to cover everything up.
    
    Hitler behaved that way. He decreed that the top people should not be divorced and have mistresses all the while having a Mistress himself.
    
    IMHO, MYOB and leave others to live their lives the way the choose so long as they do no harm to others.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:25am
    - igm
      
      Get it right, we are either born male or female, any deviation from that is perversion. Sick of this crap about GTBTIs and all the other soppy shit that is pandering to weirdos and Aids spreaders.
      If they kept to themselves they may be tolerated, but they infiltrate education, police, and anywhere else they can use to recruit perverts to become activists.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:34am
      - Biscuit
        
        igm, remember the very-prescient Birth skit in Monty Python from 35 years ago?:
        
        DOCTOR SPENSER: Eyes down for a full house!
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Here it comes!
        
        BABY: [crying]
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: And… frighten it! Thank you.
        [whock]
        
        DOCTOR SPENSER: And the rough towels!
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Show it to the mother. That’s enough.
        
        DOCTOR SPENSER: Right! Sedate her!
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Number the child.
        
        DOCTOR SPENSER: Measure it, blood type it, and isolate it!
        [whump]
        
        NURSE #1: Okay.
        [clap clap]
        Show’s over.
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Jolly good.
        
        RANDOM: [mumbling] …everyone.
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Jolly good.
        
        MRS. MOORE: Is it a boy or a girl?
        
        OBSTETRICIAN: Now, I think it’s a little early to start imposing roles on it, don’t you?
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:02am
    - Fletch
      
      We would have a country full of God botherers who were stuffed up and used their God to cover everything up.
      
      And have you stopped to consider that the crimes the clergy have committed are largely homosexual in nature and coincided with the “summer of love” and the freeing up of social sexual mores? Crimes that go against what the Church and Bible actually teach – that go against what most “God botherers” actually believe?
      
      If society (and some bad eggs in the clergy) had kept to what the Church actually teaches then we largely wouldn’t have AIDS, or as high an incidence of divorce, broken families, abortion, adultery and cheating spouses – at least as not as much as we do now. In all likelihood we also wouldn’t have men pretending they are woman and all the other common perversions of today.
      
      All this can be traced back to the liberal need for sex without consequence or responsibility. Sex untethered from family.
      
      Well, now we’re reaping the effects.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:08am
      - MrTips
        
        God botherer and proud of it 🙂
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:39am
      - SGA
        
        Fletch
        
        And have you stopped to consider that the crimes the clergy have committed are largely homosexual in nature and coincided with the “summer of love” and the freeing up of social sexual mores?
        
        I don’t see so how you can know that. Such stuff may have been going on for centuries for all we know. Some Popes, for example, weren’t past a few extracurricilar activities. What has also changed is that in the last 50 years people are less afraid to hold the church to account.
        
        Likewise, adultry and cheating spouses are hardly a new thing. Prostitution was rife in Victorian England, for example. History is full of “mistresses” and suchlike – Jefferson, Nelson, and Wagner to quickly take three from diverse fields – and the British nobility don’t have a reputation for keeping it in their pants historically.
        
        Maybe you’re right and there is more now – granted, but also people are just a lot more open about it.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:54am
      - Surely Knott
        
        Plenty of monogamous gay couples who live good lives, work hard, and contribute to society. Paedophiles can rape boys or girls, rape isn’t gay – it’s just wrong. Re the parade the gay people in my facebook feed strongly oppose the current board and their anti-police stance. The latest event “Pride Not Police Public Hui” is put on by Unite Union and Socialist Aotearoa. It’s about communists. It’s about Unions. It’s about them hating the police. So don’t make it an anti – gay thing. It’s a socialist anti establishment thing lead by the same small group of motley fringe protestors you see at every issue from Palestine to Pride.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:08am
    - Scott
      
      While I think this country and western civilisation comes from Christianity. Christianity puts a high value on human life, we are created in the image of God. Therefore practices like infanticide and the killing of old people and the burning of widows and indeed the practice of slavery were stopped as nations became more Christian.
      
      As many in our nation abandon Christianity we are seeing a return of pre-Christian Pagan practices such as abortion and the push for euthanasia. And of course sodomy is now compulsory. It is not compulsory that you practice it but it is compulsory that you wholeheartedly approve of it.
      
      I think our society is going downhill and the rise of suicide and mental health problems has been caused by the breakdown of the family which is being caused by the abandonment of Christian morals, otherwise known as family values.
      
      When even the All Blacks are wearing rainbow coloured laces in a test match to show their support for a homosexual man and by extension homosexuality, you know that things have got very queer in this nation indeed!
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:49am
      - Swifty
        
        Scott, when your God supposedly sent down the ten commandments why did he not include “Thou shall not have slaves?”, and preferred to command us about not desiring your neighbour’s missus or their ass (ie. donkey) or don’t work on Sundays instead?
        
        Do you think if he thought about a little more he might perhaps have included the slavery one instead of those others? Might have reduced human suffering a bit more don’t you think?
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:36am
      - big bruv
        
        Scott
        Stop wasting your life mate. Your God does not exist, we have just one life so damn well live it and stop paying homage to a man-made deity.
        Society might be going downhill but that has nothing to do with the very welcome growing secular society. The sooner our entire society is free of any religious influence the better.
        
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        November 26, 2018 12:42pm
      - Swifty
        
        big bruv – I saw some research the other day that on a quite large number of measures, a country’s well being is in an inverse relationship to how ‘religious’ it is – on the whole.
        
        Quite revealing actually – the more religious a country is, the worse it is for it’s citizens.
        
        I’ll see if I can remember where I saw it.
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:17pm
      - Scott
        
        Swifty. You have it exactly wrong. Slavery was a world wide institution when Christianity came in. Against all odds Christianity brought in the notion of equality of mankind. Under Christianity slavery was abolished twice, in the 4th century and the 19th century.
        
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        November 26, 2018 3:53pm
      - Scott
        
        Also Western civilisation is built on Christianity. We in NZ have a well ordered prosperous society because of Christianity.
        
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        November 26, 2018 3:54pm
      - Scott
        
        Big bruv. Stop saying the same stupid thing. God does exist. The world did not make itself. And when you die there are two places your eternal soul can go.
        
        The question is what place will you choose? Smoking or non smoking?
        
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        November 26, 2018 3:57pm
      - Swifty
        
        Scott, very slippery of you – I have not made any assertions, but you say I’m wrong and you haven’t even attempted to answer my question.
        
        Looking back, do you think your God made a wee boo boo in the ten commandments? Taking Sundays off is more important than not taking human slaves?
        
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        November 26, 2018 4:24pm
      - Swifty
        
        No-one ever has said the world made itself Scott.
        
        Why, you are quite the slippery customer aren’t you with your misrepresentations today.
        
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        November 26, 2018 4:26pm
      - Swifty
        
        Scott, what is your evidence please that there is a place called hell, where some people will burn in eternity for?
        
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        November 26, 2018 4:28pm
      - Scott
        
        The evidence for hell is the profound fear and indeed terror that unbelievers often experience on their death bed. Many are literally staring at the abyss.
        Ten commandments are good universal rules. Taking Sunday off is a rule that God made and is a good rule.
        The slavery issue came about with the equality of man through christ. Only in Christian countries was slavery abolished. A great thing that you should give Christianity more credit for.
        
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        November 26, 2018 7:33pm
      - Scott
        
        But swifty. Here’s the questions for you. Do you give Christianity no credit for abolishing slavery?
        Aren’t atheists the worst people in the world?
        How can you deny hell when demented atheists keep creating hell on earth?
        Do you worry you’ll go straight to hell when you die?
        Isn’t it boring believing in nothing? Standing for nothing? Isn’t your life hopeless with no purpose and nothing to believe in?
        So answer all my questions to my satisfaction as you expect me to answer yours
        
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        November 26, 2018 7:44pm
      - Swifty
        
        Most happy to answer your questions Scott – but I see you evaded mine once again.
        
        “Do you give Christianity no credit for abolishing slavery?” – I don’t know a lot about it. I think some Christians, amongst many others, played a role. Certainly though, people point to many passages in the Bible which seem to be quite ok with slavery.
        
        “Aren’t atheists the worst people in the world?” No, not in my experience. I find the great majority very good people. I can however point you to many, many deranged and downright evil religious people though. Certainly international evidence demonstrates the more religious a society is the worse it is for its citizenry.
        
        “How can you deny hell when demented atheists keep creating hell on earth?” I don’t deny hell, I however cannot see any credible evidence for such a place.
        
        “Do you worry you’ll go straight to hell when you die?” No, never. I find the whole notion laughable.
        
        “Isn’t it boring believing in nothing? Standing for nothing? Isn’t your life hopeless with no purpose and nothing to believe in?” I believe in lots of things. I stand for many things. I don’t believe my life is hopeless, it has purpose – and I don’t want to ‘believe’ in things thanks, I want to know.
        
        Also, I think your religion is a fraud. It is built on lies – repeated over centuries. I see no evidence of a ‘god’ and the notion that this ‘god’ intervenes in human affairs and ‘revealed’ himself to certain people is ridiculous and laughable if the implications weren’t so serious.
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:01pm
      - Scott
        
        Swifty thanks for your replies. From now on I can characterise you as yet another boring atheist and indeed anti theist.
        Unfortunately there are a lot of you.
        Fortunately God is in charge and he will decide our fates on judgement day and reward people accordingly.
        Scott out
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:14pm
      - nasska
        
        “If we go back to the beginning we shall find that ignorance and fear created the gods, that fancy enthusiasm or deceit adorned them, that weakness worships them, that credulity preserves them, and that custom respect and tyranny support them in order to make the blindness of men serve their own interests.”
        
        -Baron d’Holbach (1723 – 1789) French author & philosopher.
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:19pm
      - Swifty
        
        I’m very sorry you think me another boring athiest.
        
        That’s a pity for me – I would have been happy to chat further. It’s also a pity for you, I think you will benefit from athiests pointing out the bullshit you’ve been fed, but hungrily devour.
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:25pm
Tauhei Notts

Stuff reports, with aghast, that a float in the Richmond Virginia procession featured Confederate flag. Whoopty Do!
How long before some snowflake protests those reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard on Tv. Not only does it flaunt the Confederate flag but the car is called the General Lee!
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November 26, 2018 8:11am
- mandk
  
  It was Richmond near Nelson
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:20am
  - sooty
    
    Man they are wierd down there! Even make a bus shelter with a hole in it just to be trendy, never mind about been wet!
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:30am
    - stigie
      
      Yeah, we’re all pretty queer down this way sooty !~
      
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      November 26, 2018 2:00pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    What a stupid mistake. I must have had a “senior moment”.
    I will be more careful in the future.
    Sorry about that.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:50am
    - Biscuit
      
      Tauhei, fretteth not.
      
      It took until 26 November for you to have your first 2018 stuff-up.
      
      The CoL had racked up 44644 before you even got out of bed on 2 January!
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:08am
- kowtow
  
  Thing is the theme was racist, overtly so .
  
  Only it was anti white racsim.
  
  The irony is that all the “offended” don’t seem to get the irony of this “rednek” float.
  
  What a stupid , stupid PC world we live in.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:04am
- Longknives
  
  The delicate little Petals at Stuff wouldn’t like Skynyrd then!-
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY
  
  The late,great Ronnie Van Zant- I’m surprised those ‘tolerant’ Lefties haven’t pushed over his headstone or something…
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:25am
Notsofast

Freedom of speech is in structural decline in New Zealand. The Anne Brady affair follows the Phil Twyford Chinese surnames affair. In fact nothing could be clearer, China is heading for complete control of New Zealand.

Criticism of New Zealand judges and their judgements is also becoming off limits, and this is a catastrophe for wrongly convicted individuals.

Note this:

The complete defence to defamation is the telling of complete truth.

:”On both issues, the defendant bears the onus of proof. As already mentioned, in light of new technologies which enable anyone to communicate to the world at large, it is a defence that should be available to all who publish material of public interest in any medium,” the court said.”

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/07/31/173201/court-of-appeal-widens-defamation-defence
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November 26, 2018 8:14am
- Philview
  
  Anne Brady was talking on TV recently and it sounded like she was saying the National Party has received $4 million from Chinese sources and the Labour Party hasn’t received a cent. I thought if i heard her right then that isn’t right. The US Government has recently discussed the Labour Party receiving funding from China. Looking up Labour Party funders there is even a significant donation from a person with a Chinese surname.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:17am
  - Jack5
    
    Did anyone-else hear Anne-Marie Brady say this?
    
    This report to the US Congress alleged China links to NZ Labour fund raising.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12058818
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:35am
  - Justitia
    
    The monkey dances for the organ grinder. China must be pleased with the return on its investment in the National Party:
    
    https://youtu.be/i3axbj3Elt8
    
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    November 26, 2018 2:43pm
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Burgled professor case: PM called on to defend academic freedom
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12165874
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:14am
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-silence-on-chinese-intimidation-disturbing-open-letter/ar-BBQ4CNH?ocid=st
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:57am
Simon

“Millions of Chinese nationals have been blocked from booking flights or trains as Beijing seeks to implement its controversial “social credit” system, which allows the government to closely monitor and judge each of its 1.3 billion citizens based on their behaviour and activity.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-social-credit-system-flight-booking-blacklisted-beijing-points-a8646316.html

CCP’s Social Credit System. Finally in MSM.

How can NZ make trade, political and other commercial deals with CCP and their apparatchik such as Chinese corporations.

Their whole system is utterly corrupt and inhumane.

In the near future NZ immigration will be only letting CCP approved toadies into NZ. Because those will be the only ones allowed to have a passport.
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November 26, 2018 8:14am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Never understood NZ logic. China Good – Russia Bad.
  China is a million times worse. Effin retarded thinking.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:29am
  - kowtow
    
    I suspect if we did the same amount of trade with Russia as we do with China the mantra would be :
    
    Russia good – China bad.
    
    There aren’t too many pollies with true integrity.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:57am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Not doing trade with Russia, only hurts NZ.
      Doesn’t hurt Russia. Believe me, no one there cares about an island in the arse end of the world with just under 5million on it.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:50am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Where I work we don’t like dealing with Russian companies. Big credit risks, play very sharp with regulations to generate what are in our view false claims for damages and the like. The bureaucracy is also very hard to deal with if you do encounter problems – genuine or not.
        
        So we tend only to deal with Russian firms if the deal is really good or we can’t sell elsewhere.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:58am
      - Kiwi_in_Paris
        
        Putting aside the lies, controls, and corruption with both regimes, I think most Western people would rather live in a street full of Chinese, than a street full of Russians.
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:24pm
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        Why? Have you lived with Russians?
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:56pm
- kowtow
  
  Al Jazeera have a doco on it.
  
  Worth a look. I’m guessing the Quataris have enough of our money that they don’t need any Chinese loans ……
  
  https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2018/11/china-spying-eyes-181115060044471.html
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:30am
- MrsAnnie
  
  Just as concerning is the construction of what are effectively concentration camps for Chinese muslims. Today its muslims, tomorrow Christians.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:47am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Today its muslims, tomorrow Christians.
    
    Don’t think so…
    There were 4 million Christians in China in 1970…
    there are about 70 Million now (at least)… Fastest growing religion in China.
    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/christianity-china
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:01am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      Actually some say its double that- 10%-15% Christian in just over a decade. Christians will be targeted.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:57am
      - Dave Mann
        
        When Muslims reach 2% of a country’s population that country starts to experience serious social upheaval and at around 5% terrorism, political activism and threats start to impact hugely.
        
        When Christians reach 25% of a country’s population they thank their god for sports successes and want Christmas trees erected in shopping malls and stuff.
        
        There’s a BIG difference.
        
        p.s. I’m an atheist – but I can still see the wood for the trees 😀
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:11am
  - Dave Mann
    
    While I totally agree with all the critical comments upthread about the pernicious and dictatorial nature of the CCP’s Social Credit system, I have to agree with their laudable response to the Uighurs and their Muslim terrorist actions.
    
    The correct reaction to being stabbed en mass , shot at and terrorised by bomb threats is to subdue the agitators and their supporters in camps where they will be ‘re-educated’ out of their stupid behaviours.
    
    Think about it. How many Uighurs will now want to press for separatism and how many will attack innocent people knowing that huge numbers of troublemakers and activists in their population are likely to be interned as a result?
    
    This is exactly the kind of response the West should have initiated when the Muslims started agitating in our countries and carrying out acts of terrorism. Sadly though, that horse has well and truly bolted in the West…. but its not to late for China.
    
    As for your claim that Christians will be next – I don’t think so, frankly. Unless the Christians were to start agitating for a separate state or special rights etc by terrorising the people, in which case they would deserve to be crushed…. but I don’t think that’s a likely scenario.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:20am
    - Philview
      
      While I am not losing any sleep over the Uighurs, I also note the lack of interest from the NZ media compared to their outrage over Trump taking steps to shore up the Mexican borders as thousands of migrants head that way.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:40am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Yes, good point. I think that, being a ‘Western’ country, our media tends to take a US/EU-centric view of the world and they totally overlook the huge impact that China particularly is having on the world.
        
        They might wake up though…. but it will come as a hell of a shock to many people.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:57am
      - MrsAnnie
        
        Need to watch the fox coverage of Mexican’s protesting the caravan- no one wants undocumented immigrants.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ups-xyurRds&t=412s
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:59am
- Nermal
  
  I can’t see the problem with the Chinese system.
  
  Blogs are full of complaints about ferals doing what ferals do; littering, graffiti, using obscene language, intimidating the public with gang patches, parking in handicap spaces, stealing from tourists, unregistered vicious dogs, all with impunity
  
  What the Chinese have decided is to make these dregs of society responsible for their actions by applying sanctions so actions have consequences. Go for it
  
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  November 26, 2018 12:52pm
oldpark

Who would have known that NZs Farmer Trading in Auckland were anti male and more in the Misandrist Category. To think that their potential Father Christmas had the temerity and gall to say that Father Christmas was a mere male. Farmers had the poor unfortunate free speech advocate fired on the spot.
Farmers Trading will be over the moon surely when mere Males decide to boycott the so called Mens section in their store,and take their money and custom to stores where being a “mere male”will not be discriminated against,as the example shown by Farmers Trading in firing the worlds much loved Father Christmas figure . Shame on you Farmers and the Auckland snot snivelling “name” ratbag who supported the decision.
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November 26, 2018 8:14am
- KevOB
  
  Isn’t Farmers now owned by Ngai Tahu?
  
  This sacking has passed stupidity into outrage. I seriously doubt its legality. Having done the job for a parade no one of sane mind would attempt to appoint anyone without male vocal apparatus including hormones for the job. Children would be disturbed by a fake.
  
  My preference for KMart has increased substantially.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:03am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Farmers was/is owned by the Pascoes family.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:20am
    - Jack5
      
      Pascoes Ltd, which owns Farmers Trading Co, in turn is owned by the Norman family, with a minority stake held by Kevin Brian Turner – all of Auckland.
      
      Farmers Trading’s finance arm is owned by Fisher and Paykel Finance.
      
      Farmers didn’t fire Santa Claus. It was the parade organiser, Michael Barnett, who, it has been alleged, wants to be mayor of Auckland.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:32am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Thanks for the clarification Jack. Good post.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:38am
      - sooty
        
        How’s that going to effect farmers bottom line over christmas? Plenty of other shops sell the same range off goods.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:44am
      - stephieboy
        
        Michael Barnett, also I believe a Citizen and Ratepayer.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:18am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Isn’t he also head of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce? And yes, I was forgetting it is the Norman family.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:32am
      - GazzaW
        
        So what steffie? What are you trying to say?
        
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        November 26, 2018 1:56pm
      - double d
        
        Never trust a man who voluntarily wears a bow tie as business attire.
        
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        November 26, 2018 2:06pm
    - Paulus
      
      Farmers is a private company owned by the Norman Family in Auckland, and trade under the Pascoes name. They also own such as Whitcoulls.
      I do not believe that they would approve of the way the Santa think has been handled.
      
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      November 26, 2018 1:54pm
VicParking

Xmas will be postponed for five days this year. The 25th of December coincides with my PMT.
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November 26, 2018 8:15am
Inandout

Santa is a woman, Mohamed is a woman, Jane Bond is a woman.
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November 26, 2018 8:21am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Soon, you and me will just be defined as women with penis’.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:25am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Femenine penis.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:30am
    - Tarquin North
      
      I think Jimmy Twomums is leading the charge on that one.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:40am
      - stigie
        
        I thought Simon Bridges had it right when he said on the AM Show this morning……..
        “What about letting Santa be a man and Mary Poppins be a women” !~
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:01am
      - Jack5
        
        On Red Radio’s “The Panel,”, where Wallace Chapman is standing in for Gentleman Jim Mora, Mihingarangi Forbes made a comment during discussion of Auckland’s female Santa Claus hoo-ha.
        
        Forbes suggested Santa Claus be replaced by the Maori god of food. I think she nominated “Haumia-tiketike,” the god of wild food (Maori have another god, Rongo, for cultivated food.)
        
        Forbes, who is part-Maori, was known as Joanne Forbes until she attended a Maori-language immersion course when she was aged 19 or 20.
        
        In another comment on the show, Forbes, giving her opinion, said: “As a New Zea— … [slight gasp], … as a person of Aotearoa.”
        
        Radio NZ is becoming a caricature.
        
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        November 26, 2018 5:47pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Will that then permit men to become a general pain in the arse and lobby for mandatory screening of all men for prostate cancer? After all, it is the the number 2 cancer after lung cancer. Given we hear all about womens’ cancer it is only fair and equitable that the same level of resource is pumped into dealing with the cancers of the woman with penis/ Feminine Penis section of the population.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:52am
      - Tall Man
        
        I strongly suggest you don’t hold your breath.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:25am
      - hullkiwi
        
        TM, holding one’s breath and seeking to equality with the feminista is not recommended as a simultaneous action!
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:35am
      - madamezucchininz
        
        ….and what about all the extra funding for reassignment surgery….200 million I believe….to me this is outrageous ….especially considering that they harp on and on about child poverdee…..children in desperate need of grommets etc….children in desperate need of dental care….not to mention all the hard working men I know that need knee replacements or shoulder replacements….whose appointments are continually postponed…..gender reassignment should be user pay…. not the tax payer….it would certainly make them think far more carefully before spending their own money …as there are a number of these that regret the surgery…and want their penis back…..
        
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        November 26, 2018 12:33pm
    - kowtow
      
      Ahem , already been done.
      
      ‘THE “EXTRAORDINARY” CASE of a woman who tricked her female friend into sex using a fake penis was described by lawyers “as the strangest they had ever done.”’
      
      https://www.thejournal.ie/prosthetic-penis-guilty-2332934-Sep2015/
      
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      November 26, 2018 11:03am
- VicParking
  
  Dr Who is a women, Cindy is a Liar.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:25am
  - Tall Man
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:26am
- JIV
  
  Dr Who is a woman, Ghostbusters are now all women, Oceans 11 is now Oceans 8 women, Star Wars is now saved only by women, Dr Smith from Lost In Space is a woman, even the Milky Bar Kid became a girl.
  
  the result?
  
  Apart from Star Wars, all franchises dead
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:18am
  - Longknives
    
    You forgot Captain America..
    Now a Feminist Woman!
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:39am
- igm
  
  Mohamed was a paedophile and a murderer.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:41am
secondcumming

*People that can F – OFF this week*

The Member for Botany [muff diver / cage diver?]

People who drink ‘champagne’ in *Gold Class* [BOL]

Chinese drug smugglers [why are they allowed to stay in NZ?]

Cyclists who write books about their travels [twats!]

Koonts that say, “This rain is good for the garden”

Dwarfs who work as bouncers outside gay-bars [nasty little pricks]

Saint Nicola [and you couldn’t trust Black Peter to behave]

DD SMASH

Aziz

More to follow……
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November 26, 2018 8:27am
dcrown

Rick Santorum is spot on, ‘Global Warming’ is nothing more than a cottage industry for academics who would otherwise be out of a job.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-santorum-says-climate-scientists-driven-by-money-applauds-trump-for-dropping-climate-report-on-holiday/
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November 26, 2018 8:43am
Rodney Randall

Chris Lynch covering for Leighton. He is demo’jng P.A.P.A. and liberal media now on ZB
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November 26, 2018 8:44am
- Dave Mann
  
  What does demo’jng mean?
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:32am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    It’s when you drop the phattest dopest beats whilst dj’ing to an audience.
    
    Block Rockin’ Beats.
    
    Also known as a typo☺
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:58am
    - Dave Mann
      
      O ya cool bro…. I totally geddit now!
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:19am
    - Colville
      
      Rodney… a little early for the disco biscuits!!
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:40am
- Harkman
  
  I didn’t think he was that bad, but I never listen really. He does question the local spending down here.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:38am
G152

Global warming isn’t living up to the hype.
They’re running out of heat sinks to run the shock horror temps are up .00000001.
Warmest year since the last one.
Ice is still ice Polar bears are doing their thing the ocean is salty deep and cold (why don’t the alarmists know about the Thermocline ???)
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November 26, 2018 9:00am
- Harkman
  
  The coldest October and November I can remember in Chch. Here is normally the place to be at this time of the year (mid Sept to early Dec). I showed some Australian relatives that we had 5.4°c in the middle of the day two weeks ago. She was shocked.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:42am
  - backster
    
    Well they had freezing temps in most Aussie States last week and several inches snow in ether NSW or Vic . place called Spring Falls or similar….Record low Temps throughout the States and Canada usually 3-4c below old records setin the 1870s. Deep water floods in Saudi Arabia and other dessert states….Amazing what a trace gas like CO2 can do.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:41am
  - MCos
    
    Christchurch is never the place to be.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Record cold this last week in NE USA
  
  https://abc7ny.com/weather/accuweather-alert-coldest-thanksgiving-since-1871/4714429/
  
  https://buffalonews.com/2018/11/23/yes-that-was-the-coldest-thanksgiving-ever-in-buffalo/
  
  https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2018/11/23/rochester-ny-weather-black-friday-record-low-frigid-thanksgiving/2090745002/
  
  etc, etc
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:35am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    MW. obvious pointer to the reality of climate change. Not forgetting the opposite extreme in California with drought and devastating forest fires.
    
    EXTREME WEATHER
    
    Climate change and extreme weather: Science is proving the link
    
    https://www.dw.com/en/climate-change-and-extreme-weather-science-is-proving-the-link/a-43323706
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:54am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      No one has ever argued that the climate doesn’t change, stephieboy.
      
      It’s the Global warmists who have produced inaccurate forecasts of Global climate that are the problem.
      
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      November 26, 2018 11:26am
secondcumming

Txt from my 14-year-old niece ……

Why aren’t people in Afghanistan allowed to watch TV?

Because of the telly ban
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November 26, 2018 9:10am
- Huevon
  
  Your niece clearly hasn’t spent enough time in a Modern Learning Environment (formerly known as school).
  
  That text should have said…
  
  Refugees are welcome!
  There is no Planet B!
  OMG have you seen Jacinda’s baby?!
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:31am
Jack5

We see the true character of the EU.

Macron threatens Britain in demands for access to British fishing waters, and Spain demands joint sovereignty of Gibraltar.

If the Americans take their troops home, and Nato unwinds, this time leave West Europe to the populists.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6426739/Macron-warns-Britain-FORCED-backstop-fishing.html
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November 26, 2018 9:15am
- mandk
  
  Does Spain share sovereignty of Ceuta and Melilla with Morocco?
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:39am
  - kowtow
    
    Bwahahahaa.
    
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    November 26, 2018 11:11am
- realityczech
  
  So they need what Britian has, not the other way around.
  
  The very opposite of what the anti-Brexit brigade predicted.
  
  I note these demands are backed by threats, which shows their true nature. The left always use violence.
  
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  November 26, 2018 12:24pm
  - artemisia
    
    A huge number of lorries arrive in the UK full of produce for the supermarkets. Those farmers are not going to be too happy if one of their biggest first world markets shrinks.
    
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    November 26, 2018 1:06pm
Morrissey

Deadbeat Dads
No. 9: DONALD TRUMP

scumbag n., informal 1. a contemptible or objectionable person; 2. a dirty, sleazy, disreputable or despicable person; 3. a condom.

Donald Trump pressured his daughter Ivanka to get breast implants to enhance her looks while she pursued a modeling career, according to new claims in a book on the first family.

“Donald wanted it for her, bad, to the point where he suggested to friends that breast implants might help her along,” Vanity Fair senior reporter Emily Jane Fox writes in “Born Trump.”

Mortified by the prospect, the future president’s sister, Maryanne, asked one of her brother’s pals to talk him out of letting Ivanka go under the knife,according to a People report on the tell-all.

“When his friend confronted him about it, he denied that [Ivanka] was getting implants,” Fox writes. “At the end of the call, he asked, ‘Why not, though?’ ”…..
https://nypost.com/2018/06/20/new-tell-all-details-trumps-creepy-relationship-with-ivanka/

http://time.com/5397986/trump-jr-kavanaugh-sexual-assault/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80

Keep up with all the Deadbeat Dads….
1 Sir John Key, 2 Bill “Double Dipper” English; 3 Sir Douglas Graham; 4 John Banks; 5 David Cameron; 6 Kingsley Amis; 7 John Slater; 8 Fred Trump

“She does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” —Donald Trump
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November 26, 2018 9:22am
- Fletch
  
  I think you do not understand the definition of deadbeat. It’s is customarily used to mean someone who does not pay their debts, or a lazy person…
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:28am
  - Morrissey
    
    Trump is notorious for not paying his debts. And he reads nothing, knows next to fuck-all—i.e. he’s as lazy and ill informed as a NewstalkZzzzzB talkback host. He’s a deadbeat, all right, and the whole world knows it.
    
    The big difference, of course, is that neither Mike Hosking nor Larry “Lackwit” Williams has the ability to start a nuclear war.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:31am
    - dime
      
      lol someone gets triggered by the Don
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:41am
    - igm
      
      Trump is not a bludging gutless scumbag like you Breen.
      Get back to your hole amongst konshies, pooftars, and leeches.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:43am
      - Morrissey
        
        Trump is not a bludging gutless scumbag like you Breen.
        
        Correct. We’re very different. In my leisure time, I like to read books. Serious books. The Groper in Chief, OTOH, spends his time watching the lowest intellectual calibre television station on the planet, then recycling its idiotic messages on his infamous Twitter rants.
        
        Also: I’ve never attacked a young defenceless woman, ever. Leave alone dozens of them.
        
        I’ve never attacked a woman trapped in an aeroplane seat either.
        
        And I have never lowered myself to this kind of moronic hate:
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaz1J0s-cL4
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:53am
- stigie
  
  Iv’e come to the conclusion that Morris 8 gets off on Ivanka Trump and his suspect gropers list..?
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:33am
  - Swifty
    
    Yes, that is clear to me too.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:02am
- Harkman
  
  All his children love him, that’s the opposite of a deadbeat dad.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:44am
  - Morrissey
    
    Bullshit. They’re as cold and psychopathic as he is.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:46am
- rangitoto
  
  You better put Cindy on the deadbeat mom list.
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:04am
  - Morrissey
    
    Bizarre. Possibly a contender for Howler of the Year.
    
    Well done, chump.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:09am
    - Tall Man
      
      If your blog is so successful, why don’t you fuck off and moderate it.
      
      I sincerely hope you’re an immigrant as it would cause me great anxiety if NZ actually bred you.
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:30am
- Happychappy
  
  Well if it was Wankers Morrissey you would top the list with Andrew Little and JLR second and third. Now why don’t you crawl back into the Shit hole you came from.
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:10am
  - stigie
    
    Is that the Stranded he should crawl back to Happychappy..?
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:22am
Fletch

A blogger at Town Hall asks the obvious question – if journalists are so overwrought about Trump’s attitude towards Saudi Arabia and the murdered journalist Kashoggi (who was not American, by the way), why did most of them let slide that Obama routinely targeted American citizens for drone strikes without due process or even a trial?

[..P]resident Obama had not merely ignored a foreign government’s murder of one of its own subjects, but constructed its very own hit list of American citizens that Obama claimed the unilateral authority to judge, prosecute, sentence, and execute.

[…]
Which brings us back to the murder of Jamal Khashoggi by his own government and — let’s allow for the sake of argument — Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. If it was okay (or at least not overly unpleasant) for our president to assassinate one of our own citizens for his alleged ties to terrorism and jihadis, then what serious objection could one have to the Saudi crown prince assassinating one of his own citizens who was also intimately tied to Islamist terrorists and political organizations who want to overthrow his government?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/11/25/forget-khashoggi-where-were-our-elites-when-obama-assassinated-american-citizens-n2536445
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November 26, 2018 9:25am
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  What right did Obama have to target the citizens of ANY country?
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    Morrissey, he never did!
    
    Fletch, no ciation from that Town Hall rag!
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:23am
    - Tall Man
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:32am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      All those drine strikes that Obama ordered, to assassinate US citizens abroad?
      
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      November 26, 2018 11:09am
- VicParking
  
  But its different when Obama did it.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:39am
Rodney Randall

https://transkids.biz/collections/all?page=2

Fake penises for children.

CHILDREN.
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November 26, 2018 9:29am
- secondcumming
  
  JESUS H. CHRIST!
  
  And it looks like the ‘MASHO’ has sold out!!
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:35am
- Huevon
  
  What the hell did I just see?!
  
  Cleansing divine fire NOW, please God.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:36am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    I could have done without that on Monday.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:01am
- Longknives
  
  We live in a very strange World.
  “Little Miss’ Beauty Pageants have been villainised because they ‘Sexualize children’ etc etc
  But a little boy in drag goes viral and gets on the Ellen show!
  ‘OMG he is just sooo fabulous’ etc etc
  
  A cynic might think it is all just an attack on Heterosexuality and traditional Western values…
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:56am
Inandout

Males rule in Islam:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1993-05-20-9305210334-story.html

It is a 1993 article, but as we know, nothing changes in Islam.
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November 26, 2018 9:30am
- stephieboy
  
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  Inandout, things do change as in Iran and recently in Saudi Arabia.
  
  You I would say be very pleased that we have another woman PM?
  
  Aye?
  
  PS back in 1993 misogyny was rampant in the West. Feminism and progressivism have swung the tide.
  
  Aye?
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:13am
  - Tall Man
    
    Perhaps if things had improved rather than changed we could get golly to fuck of back there.
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:33am
Morrissey

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Andy Dick making Ivanka Trump feel right at home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwHNAiPM94
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November 26, 2018 9:36am
- Longknives
  
  Is that the same Andy Dick who has been arrested multiple times for Sexual and Indecent Assaults?
  I think he also likes to racially taunt people as well doesn’t he??
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:52am
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    Precisely. As I said: just like her dad.
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:55am
    - Longknives
      
      She is smoking hot though isn’t she Morrissey?
      Surely you agree that her and Melania make quite the nice change from that horrendous Michelle Obama creature?…
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:58am
      - Morrissey
        
        I despise Michelle Obama, but unlike you I don’t despise her because she is a black woman.
        
        https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/its-michelle-obamas-marie-antoinette.html
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:02am
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        Longknives, based on the idea that you could never stand or accept having a black family in the Whitehouse!
        
        Yes?
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:09am
      - dime
        
        “I despise Michelle Obama, but unlike you I don’t despise her because she is a black woman.”
        
        you’re saying black women are ugly? cause longknives said nothing about her skin colour. just that shes fucking ugly (and looks like a dude).
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:17am
      - Longknives
        
        Quite the opposite Stephieboy!
        I always thought Colin Powell would have made a fine President- And I was always impressed by Condoleezza Rice as well..
        
        Michelle Obama is a fucking racist, disrespectful hypocrite (I would happily use the ‘C word’ for her but I suspect that would earn me demerits)
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:20am
      - stephieboy
        
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        dime, your another one who could never stand a black family in the Whitehouse.
        
        Ugly? Post us pix of your dile!
        
        Ugh!
        
        LOL!
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:22am
      - Inandout
        
        http://countdowntozerotime.com/2013/12/14/is-this-a-penis-i-see-before-memichelle-obama-penis-bulge-pic-who-is-michelle-obama/
        
        She is entitled to bend.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:23am
      - Longknives
        
        Christ I read that as Stephieboy asking Dime to post pics of his dick! Ha Ha…
        
        Honestly- Nothing would surprise me with that creep.
        I strongly suspect he is on a register somewhere…
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:26am
      - dime
        
        “dime, your another one who could never stand a black family in the Whitehouse”
        
        how dare you call me racist.
        
        i insist on an apology.
        
        you have slandered me in this way for years. you disgusting creep.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:29am
      - Longknives
        
        Jesus that’s creepy!
        I hope Dime is in his ‘Safe Space’..
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:02am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Inandout, we get the message about your unquestioned mental and intellectual limitations!
      
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      November 26, 2018 10:26am
      - MrTips
        
        Hey stephie, I heard you were taking flying lessons…
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:30am
      - Tall Man
        
        What’s a “dile” and why do you want to see dime’s one?
        
        steffy is a girl
        
        ardern is a liar
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:36am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Tall Man
        
        according to the Urban Dictionary..
        dile could mean something dirty, organ, female organ
        https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dile
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:58am
      - Longknives
        
        Jesus that’s creepy!
        I hope Dime is in his ‘Safe Space’..
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:03am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, in NZ where I grew up it was a common slang term for “face ”
        
        As in wipe your” dile ” with that flannel etc .
        
        You cut a rather sad and pathetic picture of a creature IMO
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:08am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        In that case, stephieboy
        
        the spelling is dial
        
        as it derives from the name of a clock face
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_face
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:15am
      - Inandout
        
        ‘Face’ in Arabic stephie:
        
        wajah
        
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        November 26, 2018 11:54am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Maggy:
        
        Don’t forget that Stephieboy gets confused about brains and BRIANS. And he has a go at Inandout about “unquestioned mental and intellectual limitations” – the lack of self-awareness is amazing!
        
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        November 26, 2018 12:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Sorry maggy but you’ve got me thinking but I can’t reconcile “dirty” and “female organ”.
        
        Time for bed for me while I reflect on the inaccuracies of the urban dictionary.
        
        Nite all and go fuck yourself steffy girl..
        
        ardern stlll is and always will be a liar…
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:24pm
Harkman

Corruption of the highest order, a referendum is coming to lower the 5% threshold to 4%. To protect the dirty drunken dwarf, the Labour lapdog.
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November 26, 2018 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
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  Harkman, a referendum? Tell us more?
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Don’t you follow NZ news, stephieboy?
    Aren’t you aware of what is going on in NZ politics?
    Can’t you do your own research?
    
    For your edification:
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/government-considers-referendums-cannabis-euthanasia-and-mmp-electoral-reform-same-time-andrew-little
    
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/worried-nz-first-behind-calls-referendum-lowering-mmp-threshold-says-simon-bridges
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:29am
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      MW,
      
      “The Justice Minister has confirmed that the Government is considering holding referendums on cannabis law reform, euthanasia and MMP electoral reform, all at the same time.”
      
      Note the word” considering ” That is not actually doing!
      
      Or?
      
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      November 26, 2018 11:02am
  - Tall Man
    
    Oops, another breach coming up…
    
    You are a closed mind fool. The only comments you make are extremely childish and you continually display that you are really lacking in both intellect and commonsense.
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:37am
- Paulus
  
  Hark
  Not 4% but 3% and the Greens want 2%.
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:00pm
MrsAnnie

Referendum to protect Greens and NZ First lumped in with weed and euthanasia is pure Winston. They should be seperate regardless of cost and the results should not come into effect until 2024 at the earliest. I suspect a referendum lifting the MMP threshold to 10% may just pass.
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November 26, 2018 10:05am
- Piniwi
  
  Right MrsAnnie such a referendum must ask first first the MMP system should be retained or replaced? Secondly if the should be raised or lowered by the same increment +1 or -1 ? The problem is that the COL will attempt to control the result in their favour by the wording of the question.
  However what we are being provided now is the usual Labour process of preconditioning of the LCD and the sheeple. They have carefully avoided the important intended referendum of Winston First of abolishing Murri seats. While also illustrating more Murri pandering by saying it is up to Mureri?
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:36pm
Manolo

He should be the first casualty:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/rugby-union/cheika-to-front-rugby-australia-board-as-player-tensions-surface/ar-BBQ4iyT

Michael Cheika will front the Rugby Australia board on December 10 as rumours swirl of growing disquiet in the Wallabies’ dressing room and potential coaching replacements jockey for position.
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November 26, 2018 10:35am
- Tall Man
  
  I did see his point about Farrell’s actions though.
  
  Hard to take that on the chin as a coach. Hard to take it on the chin as a lock as well it seemed.
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:39am
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    Cheika may be a shit coach but Farrell deserved a card both times.
    It certainly would have cost them the SA game but probably not the Oz game.
    
    Be very interesting to see how Farrell is reffed from here on in. I suspect they will be watching him closely.
    
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    November 26, 2018 10:47am
    - MCos
      
      Poor old Cheika ain’t got much to work with, but where he lets his team down in contrast to Hansen is his ‘woe is me’ attitude. The ref is always wrong and he’s always hard done by. Pretty depressing stuff for his team, I’d have thought.
      
      If SBW had performed those shoulder barges he’d be banned ‘till the middle of next season, no question.
      
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      November 26, 2018 11:05am
igm

Can these Third World parasites be trusted?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108863168/more-than-3700-auckland-motorists-urged-to-get-warrants-of-fitness-rechecks-after-a-certifier-is-suspended
NO!
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November 26, 2018 10:55am
- stephieboy
  
  igm, was this dodgy Dargaville garage owner from the third world?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108766217/Wrongly-warranted-car-crashes-causing-death-NZTA-shares-blame
  
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  November 26, 2018 10:59am
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    The ferrals get a warrant with good tyres and seat belts by swapping with their mates.
    
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    November 26, 2018 11:06am
    - Paulus
      
      Nothing new – swapping car/truck bits for WOF is as old as the hills.
      
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      November 26, 2018 2:02pm
      - sooty
        
        Asian builders do the samething for building inspections!
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:19pm
  - igm
    
    Goat Shagger: Sure sounds like one of yours: Akram Zakeri definitely has that Muzzie appearance.
    
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    November 26, 2018 11:17am
    - igm
      
      What about this Goat Shagger?
      https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/11/daddys-an-islamist-from-way-back/
      Makes decent people sick!
      
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      November 26, 2018 4:14pm
  - Tall Man
    
    So which steffy are you, the simpleton girl or the goat shagging dickwit..
    
    Sorry my mistake…you’re both dickwits
    
    ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 26, 2018 9:17pm
secondcumming

*LATEST BREAKING NEWS*

Ukraine’s Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman calls urgent meeting of his *War Cabinet*, after Russian forces fire on and capture 3 Ukrainian Navy ships in the Black Sea off the coast of Crimea.

The *NZ Herald* reports:

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1066803734590693378
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November 26, 2018 11:00am
- Lance
  
  Why wouldn’t they do whatever they want?
  Nobody is going to stop them. Vlad has puppets and useful idiots all over the place.
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Something isn’t looking good for Jacinda wrt China
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12165880

Looks like she has been given the cold shoulder.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/376793/nz-should-not-take-sides-in-us-china-virtual-war-bridges
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November 26, 2018 11:10am
- kowtow
  
  “That doesn’t mean when China does things we disagree with that we don’t stand up on them, but we should not be taking sides between China and the US, it’s not in New Zealand’s interests.”
  
  How refreshing ! At least Simon is being honest . Now can we stop talking about NZ values of freedom , equality and democracy and just get on with being a vassal trading state of China’s ?
  
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  November 26, 2018 11:26am
- cmm
  
  Has she called them “professional arseholes” yet?
  
  That’s her normal diplomatic tack.
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:57pm
Komata

So now we know, and sadly, it would seem the nats have sold out.

Their ‘Founding Document’ was quite explicit when it stated that the party was to ‘Fight Communism’.

Last I heard, ‘China’ was still ‘COMMUNIST China, yet to hear Mr Bridges, that small but important detail no longer matters.

Washington will have noted the ‘change’.

The unfortunate thing is that as a result, ‘Conservatives’ and the Farmers now have nowhere to go.

Thank you Simon. Quislings come in many forms…
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November 26, 2018 11:43am
- MCos
  
  What “Founding Document”?
  The Nats were never set up to fight communism, but to push the cause of business, farmers & middle NZ in general.
  Unfortunately for them the Great Depression sunk their hopes of forming a government until after WWII. Since then they have pretty much dominated power.
  Interestingly enough the early National administrations, right through until Muldoon were very heavy handed by the standards of anybody since.
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:22pm
- Tall Man
  
  Idiot.
  
  Apologies DF but really, it is what he is….
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:13pm
MCos

Today is my Dad’s birthday and I was looking through some old photos to put on FB for the family to remember his by.
During WWII he was a gunner in the artillery stationed in Egypt with the NZ army for a period of time. I have a photo of him sitting at the wheel of a truck which was probably used to tow a twenty five pounder around.
It occurred to me that these days blokes like him are able to sit in the equivalent vehicles towing boats around . . . . .
Not long afterwards he was sent over to Greece with his mates by Churchill where they were hoovered up by the Germans and spent the rest of the war as POWs.
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November 26, 2018 11:56am
- Ross12
  
  MCos
  I think the difference between your Dad and his mates and today’s lot of his age, at the time, is that most today’s lot would not want to go anywhere a conflict to protect their country or allies. Your Dad and his mates were made of much “sterner stuff”.
  
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  November 26, 2018 12:22pm
  - MCos
    
    Who knows.
    I remember asking my father about why young guys went off to war and I don’t know that patriotism was a top priority for a lot of them. It was the adventure and they didn’t want to be left behind.
    I can see no situation in which present day NZ will need to raise a large military force so it’s a moot point. We don’t go round invading countries some people do.
    
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    November 26, 2018 1:19pm
    - Tall Man
      
      That is an odd summation of your father’s efforts.
      
      I was proud that my father had the courage and fortitude to risk his life after his older brother had just been killed.
      
      Adventure you say, I think you insult your father’s memory.
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:09pm
      - MCos
        
        I didn’t say that was why he himself joined up.
        
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        November 27, 2018 8:29am
Chuck Bird

This “mother” get bail without plea. It sounds like she may still have care of her baby. Where is the father?

Waikato woman accused of leaving baby to suffer dehydration while playing pokies

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166265
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November 26, 2018 12:20pm
- Tall Man
  
  Oh dear…WTF
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:11pm
Captain Mainwaring

Now the poor old taxpayer is going to have to fork out $23 million for fleets of bikes at schools so the kids can be taught to ride them. All so JAG had something to announce on her return to work.
FFS, is there nothing that this ‘Government’ doesn’t want to waste our money on?
Worst. Government. Ever.
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November 26, 2018 12:22pm
- Poppa
  
  You must be joking!
  
  Who is going to spend the time teaching them to ride at school? I thought teachers were over worked? Oh yeah that is only said to get a pay rise
  
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  November 26, 2018 1:14pm
- Piniwi
  
  But Captain Mainwaring we do appreciate the irony of forcing more children to ride bikes to school while at the same time reaching for a Zero road toll. Many will also recall that it was a school child on a bike that ignored the road rules who prompted the drive to wear silly hats on bikes. It is laughable that this default list MP thinks parents will willingly let their children be forced to ride a bike to school?
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:47pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Just heard a guy on talkback saying he’d recently moved with his family to somewhere in East Auckland and he said that not only is there no bike shed at the school but the kids are NOT ALLOWED to ride bikes to school.
    Sort that one out you stupid American Green twit.
    
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    November 26, 2018 4:59pm
    - sooty
      
      I rode a horse to primary school. The school had a horse paddock to keep them safe.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:14pm
Swifty

And should these gentlemen be found guilty when should we expect they will be returned from whence they came, having proved themselves unworthy of living here?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/108865665/witness-says-a-drivers-licence-tester-asked-for-bribe-after-failed-test
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November 26, 2018 1:09pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Don’t be silly, they aren’t caucasian chaps who’ve done nothing wrong. Those are the only ones who get deported.
  
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  November 26, 2018 1:26pm
  - MCos
    
    FYI
    Last year 827 people were deported from NZ with 500 or so to India, China, Fiji & Tonga.
    Don’t know how many were sent back to the Caucasus.
    70% of deportees were overstayers
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12002726
    
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    November 26, 2018 3:40pm
    - Lance
      
      Say something dumber.. please
      
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      November 26, 2018 3:52pm
      - Tall Man
        
        He can’t..At the bottom of the barrel isn’t he?
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:04pm
- kowtow
  
  Import the third world and that’s what you become.
  
  But we’re exhorted to ’embrace and celebrate’ this massive change to ‘kiwi’ culture.
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:03pm
- Tall Man
  
  Look at the judge’s name.
  
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  November 26, 2018 9:03pm
Fletch

I was driving, so couldn’t take a photo of it, but in South Auckland, prominently displayed along the motorway is a billboard of a crudely painted Jacinda Arden on a red background with a yellow hammer & sickle above her with a slogan “Let’s Do Tax This” also written in yellow. I’ll have to have my phone out the next time I drive past it (unless someone else can do it driving by) 🙂
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November 26, 2018 1:44pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Fletch:
  
  You should notify the Auckland Council clipboard brigade urgently. The image of Jacinda’s pearly whites (in all their resplendent glory) needs Photoshop treatment – otherwise it’d pose a distraction risk to passing motorists!
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:02pm
  - Longknives
    
    Must be a freaking huge billboard if it has Jacinda’s gnashers “in all their resplendent glory”….
    
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    November 26, 2018 3:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, consider yourself fortunate the distraction didn’t cause you to drive into another vehicle or crash barrier.
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:03pm
  - Fletch
    
    It was OK. Traffic was crawling, as usual….
    
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    November 26, 2018 2:06pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Labour creating a desire to ride a bike…all the way to hell.
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:56pm
- Fletch
  
  UPDATE: A local has posted it on Facebook –
  
  http://images2.imagebam.com/77/73/01/dbc75e1044040474.jpg
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:18pm
  - stigie
    
    There’s no comment from me, Bwahahahahaha !~
    
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    November 26, 2018 4:06pm
    - Fletch
      
      Apparently, it has been there since at least Saturday…
      
      I want to recommend a new slogan for next election “Ditch the Bitch”!
      
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      November 26, 2018 6:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Heh heh heh..
      
      Your silence is golden…
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:58pm
  - Tall Man
    
    The beginning of the end. Trust me.
    
    Bye bye steffy girl, you internship is cancelled.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:59pm
Manolo

Just in case the Muslims get frisky:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3678386/Germany-toughen-rape-laws-wake-Cologne-New-Year-sex-attacks-migrant-mobs.html

Germany has toughened its rape laws in the wake of the Cologne New Year sex attacks carried out by migrant mobs.

The German parliament passed legislation today broadening the definition of sex crimes and making it easier to deport foreign nationals who commit them.
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November 26, 2018 1:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo,
  
  The Bild taken to task for publishing false mass rape claims in Frankfurt,
  
  https://www.newsweek.com/2017/06/09/germany-cracking-fake-news-frankfurt-sex-mob-617536.html
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:11pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    I bet Graham Capill down played sex attack claims too.
    
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    November 26, 2018 2:51pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s that old conflict:
      Rights of females to be free from sexual abuse or Rights of new immigrants to treat females like pieces of meat.
      
      https://www.spectator.com.au/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/
      
      It’s the folks doing the cover-ups that piss me off:
      
      Authorities in Britain – Sex grooming gangs
      Cops in Cologne – New Year sex attacks
      Authorities in Sweden – Music festival sex attacks
      Police in Melbourne – African gangs.
      
      Each time I have commented on these cases, Stephieboy has thrown the racist card at me.
      
      Never any concern for the victims.
      
      Cover-ups abound when folks enable the truth to be withheld.
      
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      November 26, 2018 3:01pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Maggy:
        
        You’ve laid down the challenge. Let’s see if Stephieboy decides to express sympathy for, and solidarity with, the rape and sexual abuse victims in the 4 places you’ve mentioned. He probably likes to throw the “be on the right side of history” line around when it suits him too.
        
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        November 26, 2018 3:24pm
      - kowtow
        
        Not to forget the media were/are happy to go along with the covers ups , until they get called on it.
        
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        November 26, 2018 3:35pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Maggy, steffy is a front for a number of posters with a variety of opinions, none of the sane but it’s what to expect fro the very bottom of the labour support network and I can assure you that the bulk of the time steffy is a girl, the rest of the time it is a very disturbed labour troll.
        
        With ardern at the helm would you expect anything less?
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:50pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @TallMan
        
        I find it hard to believe that stephieboy is a Labour intern.
        
        I do not think anyone connected to the Labour Party would be silly enough to label someone with my surname as an Alt-Righter.
        
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        November 26, 2018 9:04pm
  - Tall Man
    
    As a girl I thought you would be more supportive of victims of sexual assault, then I remembered that you are just a pathetic labour intern with a wetness for ardern the liar and a fondness for some touchy feelies at camp molestation.
    
    You are sad wee girl aren’t you?
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:46pm
- kowtow
  
  And making Christmas Markets fortresses .
  
  Oh for the joys of mass migration and the diversity dividend.
  
  ‘Two years after a deadly attack on a Berlin Christmas market left 12 people dead, imposing blockades have led to this year’s market being dubbed Fort Glühwein.’
  
  https://www.dw.com/en/new-fortified-security-measures-at-berlin-christmas-market/a-46417552
  
  But then this is how the average Kraut must like to live as they keep voting for the same politicians who have done so much enrichment for them, you have to wonder.
  
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  November 26, 2018 2:18pm
VicParking

The PM has a special Cabinet meeting for Visitors from the UE.
https://youtu.be/_VJCT_svGnQ
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November 26, 2018 2:07pm
kowtow

Our media coverage of the latest home grown strawberry needler will only ensure more copycats.

Idiots.
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November 26, 2018 2:19pm
- MCos
  
  What would you prefer, censorship?
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:44pm
  - kowtow
    
    You’d prefer millions of $ of product and livelihoods destroyed ?
    
    Reporting can be done once the cops get the c#nt.
    
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    November 26, 2018 4:34pm
Swifty

The offender’s mother storms out of the court when an order is made to add him to the sexual offender’s register….

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12166205

And eleven months home d? A 12 year old victim. Position of authority and trust? Sounds pretty jailable to me…..
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November 26, 2018 3:16pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Looks a bit like an immigrant to me.
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:26pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Who gives a fuck? Import or locally grown, he needs a fathers visit.
    
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    November 26, 2018 8:42pm
- Tall Man
  
  FFS, what has to happen to get a prick like this locked up.
  
  I sincerely hope her father gets an address.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:41pm
Philview

Just read that Louise Wall doesn’t want any “F**cking TERFs” at the Pride March. A new term on me and another example that we have radical extremists in Government who live on a different planet to average Kiwis.
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November 26, 2018 3:25pm
- Longknives
  
  Louisa Wall is all class isn’t she?
  I’m enjoying watching the ridiculous ‘Rainbow Community’ implode over this….
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:51pm
- Rich Prick
  
  This is what happens when two tribes go to war. I imagine “turf” is a bit inflammatory for those already blessed with much advanced sensitivities.
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:04pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/101363704/high-court-dismisses-case-that-controversial-stuff-cartoons-breached-human-rights-act
  
  The same radical that attempted to destroy Al Nisbett’s career. Arguably she did, as the libtards over at Stuff made him persona non grata.
  
  After losing her appeal in the High Court she is now going after traditional feminists, those who accept scientific biological realities. The trans queer activists are anti science and came up with an epithet a while back not disimilar to NAZI which the left use to shut down any debate which makes them feel UnsafeTM
  
  T.E.R.F. – Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
  The war rages!?
  
  It really is hilarious watching the progressive stack devour itself
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:12pm
  - Prince
    
    People’s Front of Judea laying into Judean people’s front.
    
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    November 26, 2018 6:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  OMG, it’s an actual acronym:
  
  Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_transgender_topics#The_term_%22TERF%22
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:48pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    @janeclarejones
    (Im guessing a TERF in the eyes of Trans Activists)…
    
    explains feminists’ objections to the word CIS well.
    
    “For people who proclaim to be all about smashing binaries, you have yourselves created a new binary – the cis/trans binary. The cis/trans binary, unlike the female/male difference, is, an axiomatic binary.
    
    It is axiomatic in that the category ‘cis’ is formed entirely by inversion from the category ‘trans.’ Thus, while trans people have a gender identity that ‘doesn’t match’ their sex, we have one that ‘matches.’ Trans ideology therefore IMPOSES a gender identity on non-trans people.
    
    ..despite the fact that we keep telling them we don’t know what it means, have no experience of one, and reject it on theoretical and political grounds.
    
    As a feminist I have rejected the restraint of being ‘feminine’ all my life, and I strongly oppose being told I have a gender identity. I have no gender. I am mearly female.”
    
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    November 26, 2018 5:02pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I’m tall, does that count?
      
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      November 26, 2018 8:35pm
sooty

Where is #JETHRO?#
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November 26, 2018 3:25pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Sooty:
  
  He’s probably busy playing house husband (changing nappies) and mowing the lawns!
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:28pm
  - stigie
    
    Hope he is using the reusable cloth nappy rather than the single use disposable nappy Nostra..?
    
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    November 26, 2018 4:11pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And no wet wipes for goodness sake…
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-vision-is-clear/news/article.cfm?c_id=1504591&objectid=12163941
      I seem to remember carting around small plastic bags of damp cut-up old clothes to use as bum wipes for my pooey babes.
      
      S’pose little plastic bags are a bit of a no-no these days.
      
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      November 26, 2018 4:53pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      I wouldn’t have thought Jacinda and Clarke are Pak’n’Save shoppers.
      
      I base that assumption on the fact that a Japanese delegation opened a UN meeting room door, and found Clarke changing Baby Neve’s nappy. If it had been a reusable nappy, the pong would’ve been detected at 50 paces!
      
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      November 26, 2018 5:04pm
stoptheboats

About 145 pilot whales have died following a mass stranding at Mason Bay on Stewart Island.
”DOC has notified local Ngāi Tahu iwi and is working together on next steps.”

Cam Slater should be advised too
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November 26, 2018 3:28pm
- starboard
  
  I hear they have sold out of Sthil chainsaws down that way…
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:57pm
- Piniwi
  
  Interesting stoptheboats that after being denied the access to other locations the whales have found a safe location away from the crowd to die by choice with a little dignity. A very fishy smelling FU from the sea creatures that can look such a small problem from a long range view.
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:00pm
stoptheboats

next steps ? I feel a rahui coming…..
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November 26, 2018 3:33pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  next steps ? I feel a ~~rahui~~ BBQ coming…..
  
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  November 26, 2018 3:46pm
RW Capitalist

So it starts
Just went to a customer, that I’ve had for years.
Small
2 directors (working in the business)
2 employees
I hadn’t been able to get hold of him, so just showed up.
Caught him in a meeting with the receiver.
The reason, change of Govt. compliance that cost him and sent him to the wall.
The receiver asked if I was a creditor.
NO
Made me feel quite sad.
Then I remembered….OOOHHH of course, we have a labour govt.
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November 26, 2018 3:57pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  SMEs are the golden geese that lay the golden eggs of work creation. Kill them at your peril.
  
  Does the government consider that the costs of compliance can outweigh the benefits?
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:12pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Winston Churchill: “I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle …
    
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    November 26, 2018 5:02pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Let’s take money from hard-working people who produce and give it to non-working people who waste.
      
      There. What could possibly go wrong!
      
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      November 26, 2018 5:33pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Nothing you fool…elected for a lifetime….
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:30pm
starboard

He should have written to Fat boy Jones..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12166324
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November 26, 2018 3:59pm
- Tall Man
  
  FFS, the world is mad.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:32pm
KevOB

National: No new taxes in the first term
ODT today https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/national-no-new-taxes-first-term

Simon Bridges:

“This Government cares a lot about rhetoric. We care about results.”

He said National would repeal the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax, and promise no nation-wide petrol tax increases in its first term.

“We will not introduce any new taxes during our first term,” he added.

“I believe Kiwis pay too much tax already. So today, I am making a commitment to you – if the Government legislates a Capital Gains Tax, like the Tax Working Group has signalled it will recommend, before the next election, then we will get rid of it.”

He said National would also increase funding for core public services, noting the Social Investment Approach that the Government has axed.
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November 26, 2018 4:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  “He said National would repeal the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax, and promise no nation-wide petrol tax increases in its first term.”
  
  All very well but what of the nationwide fuel taxes Cindy has also imposed.
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:08pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  “He said National would also increase funding for core public services”
  
  Gonna need it after the UN Migration Compact is signed and illegals start rocking up.
  
  ‘National’
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:18pm
- mandk
  
  Bridges should also make a commitment on fees-free tertiary education.
  
  It is probably too politically difficult to wind things back to the status quo ante, but he could undertake that there will only be one free year, and that it will be the final year, not the first. At least then there would be a reward for finishing rather than for ill-advised enrollments.
  
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  November 26, 2018 4:38pm
  - starboard
    
    National/Liarbor..same mould, same same.
    New party needed please asap before its too late.
    
    Err..WTF is a TERF?
    
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    November 26, 2018 5:05pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      What is a TERF?
      
      An epithet created by woke trans activists, used primarly to villify/malign feminists who say cutting ones cock off does not maketh a female.
      
      TERFS reject the paradoxical CIS/TRANS binary.
      
      They are despised by trans activists as they refuse to believe 2+2=5
      
      Terfs are allies of science/truth
      Trans Activists are deceivers.
      
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      November 26, 2018 5:21pm
      - starboard
        
        *shakes head*…
        
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        November 26, 2018 6:14pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Yeah…still don’t know…
        
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        November 26, 2018 8:23pm
  - stigie
    
    “but he could undertake that there will only be one free year”
    
    Yes, and whats to say this rabble of a government come out and say we will give you 3 years free..?
    
    In for a penny, in for a pound !~
    
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    November 26, 2018 6:17pm
stoptheboats

next Labour MP out of control –
At a heated Pride hui discussing the ban, a secret recording captured MP Louisa Wall saying: “My whole thing is that I don’t want any f… TERFs at the Pride Parade”.
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November 26, 2018 4:55pm
- Swifty
  
  Well, according to the left that is hate speech, pure and simple.
  
  I await the marches up Queen St demanding her resignation and her being barred from giving speeches at NZ universities.
  
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  November 26, 2018 5:02pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  So be happy to have Terfs as long as they weren’t f……
  
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  November 26, 2018 6:40pm
- Tall Man
  
  “She attended secondary school at Taupo-nui-a-Tia College and earned qualifications from the Waikato Institute of Technology, the University of Waikato and Massey University. She worked in the health field.[clarification needed][2] She identifies openly as lesbian[3”
  
  Awesome.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:27pm
Rodney Randall

@janeclarejones
(Im guessing a TERF in the eyes of Trans Activists)…

explains feminists’ objections to the word CIS well.

“For people who proclaim to be all about smashing binaries, you have yourselves created a new binary – the cis/trans binary. The cis/trans binary, unlike the female/male difference, is, an axiomatic binary.

It is axiomatic in that the category ‘cis’ is formed entirely by inversion from the category ‘trans.’ Thus, while trans people have a gender identity that ‘doesn’t match’ their sex, we have one that ‘matches.’ Trans ideology therefore IMPOSES a gender identity on non-trans people.

..despite the fact that we keep telling them we don’t know what it means, have no experience of one, and reject it on theoretical and political grounds.

As a feminist I have rejected the restraint of being ‘feminine’ all my life, and I strongly oppose being told I have a gender identity. I have no gender. I am mearly female.”
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November 26, 2018 5:04pm
stoptheboats

”An Auckland woman is fuming after being ejected from a popular mall because she wasn’t wearing shoes. ”
“[Going barefoot] was a huge part of my Kiwi culture growing up,” she said.
yuck –

yuuuck – welcome to bro town
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November 26, 2018 5:08pm
- GoVege
  
  Lots of Pakeha went barefoot as kids, including moi.
  Hard to believe now, but as it rains a lot here, there must have been enough puddles to wash one’s tootsies in regularly…
  
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  November 26, 2018 5:22pm
GoVege

Doesn’t our DPM look stunning now she’s had her gastric bypass….and paid for it herself.
Hone can’t tease her anymore, and I doubt if she will ever feel hungry enough to eat her own pets. 🙂 🙂
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November 26, 2018 5:19pm
- nasska
  
  Paula is, as ever, a vision of loveliness but your timing is a little out.
  
  It will be nearly two years before she is DPM again…..or better still PM!
  
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  November 26, 2018 5:28pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    I think you’ve misunderstood GoVege. She refuses to recognise Jacinda as our Princess and instead sees National as the rightful government. So, in that context, Paula is DPM!
    
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    November 26, 2018 5:35pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      At least nasska has reached acceptance mode and no longer believes the government is going to unravel before the term is out.
      
      Question for Nat voters – do you really think enough people are going to accept Simon Bridges’ schoolboy schtick in 2020? Not looking great so far…
      
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      November 26, 2018 9:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Try asking Nat voters questions earlier in the day..
        Most of them have retired to bed by now…
        they’ve got to get to Work tomorrow morning to earn money so CoL folks can have something to tax.
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:10pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        Umm, why are they commenting on the bosses time?
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:26pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        They are the bosses.
        
        Anyway, check when people post….before work, smoko, lunch break…
        
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        November 26, 2018 10:38pm
      - softail 1450
        
        Muttonturd, Maggi is wasting her time trying to get through your one eyed stupidity. …
        
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        November 27, 2018 6:58am
Nostradamus

Same-sex street lights signal intersectional push for diversity across central Canberra

Pedestrians in Canberra are making slight double takes with the installation of same-sex pedestrian lights in the city centre. Eight new lights have been set up in the inner-north suburb of Braddon featuring both male and female same-sex couples. … The lights are just a block away from Braddon’s rainbow roundabout, painted in celebration of same-sex marriage.

Roundabout. Tick.
Pedestrian lights. Tick.
What’s next – purple street lights and footpaths?
Or will they follow the NZ Police example and have rainbow-coloured cars in Canberra?
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November 26, 2018 5:20pm
- Tall Man
  
  Shoe laces.
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:16pm
Nostradamus

Question: You’re at a pub waiting for the meal you ordered… and the wrong meal arrives at your table. What do you do?

Answer: Argument over pub meals escalates with men getting shotgun, rifle from farms to sort out dispute, police say

WA Police allege an argument over the wrong pub meal being sent to a table escalated into a fight in which guns were fired. The altercation started at a pub in the small farming community of Gibson near Esperance on Western Australia’s south coast on Friday night. Sergeant Todd Pender alleges two groups fired up after the kitchen mishap. “There were more arguments, which then ended up on social media that were basically, ‘Let’s meet at a pre-determined spot and we can sort this out’,” Sergeant Pender said.

Wouldn’t the food go cold while they “sort this out”?
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November 26, 2018 5:26pm
- nasska
  
  …..”the wrong pub meal being sent to a table escalated into a fight in which guns were fired”….
  
  Perfectly reasonable. We rural folk tend to sort things out in our own way Nostra. 🙂
  
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  November 26, 2018 5:29pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Do you rural folk have a similar dispute resolution method for resolving misdirected mail issues? The thought of having to trudge 5km down the road to give a letter to the person who was supposed to receive it might cause someone to “go postal” (if you know what I mean)?
    
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    November 26, 2018 5:33pm
    - nasska
      
      Can’t remember any feuds over misdirected mail Nostra though that may be testimony to the efficiency of our RD1 driver.
      
      The worst flare ups are usually the result of poor boundary fencing though there’s been some humdingers when pig hunters poach on private hunting blocks.
      
      One of note involved a poacher about a kilometre up a stream surrounded by regenerating scrub when a shot rang out & his dog dropped dead at his feet. There was hell to pay over that!
      
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      November 26, 2018 5:42pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        In the movie The Patriot, there is a scene where Mel Gibson’s character is teaching a couple young boys how to shoot. He famously says “Aim small, miss small.” If you focus your aim on a small part of your target, you have a better chance of hitting it.
        
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        November 26, 2018 5:48pm
      - Swifty
        
        Is there a suggestion that the shooter was one km away also nasska?
        
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        November 26, 2018 5:51pm
      - nasska
        
        As I recall about 700 metres range from up on a ridge Swifty. Thing was that the bloke who shot the dog was another hunter who had permission to be on the property.
        
        He didn’t tell anyone what had happened & the poacher departed at great speed to complain to the police. The property owner, who was still out of the loop was visited that arvo by half a dozen cops who confiscated his firearms.
        
        There were some unhappy people & a few punch ups as a result.
        
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      - softail 1450
        
        Nasska , sounds like “deliverance” in
        your neighborhood Nasska, yeee haaa.
        
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        November 27, 2018 7:03am
- Tall Man
  
  Aussie food, shit cold or shit hot :
  
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  November 26, 2018 8:13pm
dcrown

The tear gassing of the invasion caravan has already been debunked, they are taking a page straight out of the pallywood playbook. Even the Mexicans have had enough and have begun to send them packing.
#fakenews

https://twitter.com/freedom_moates/status/1066907387590860801
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Hugh Pavletich

UNITED STATES: Millennials Are Quickly Ditching City Life For Suburbs | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-21/millennials-are-quickly-ditching-city-life-suburbs

A new report from Ernst & Young LLP., Research Now surveyed 1,202 adults aged 20 to 36 shows that millennials are fleeing big cities for suburban life.

When determining where to live, many millennials are now following the footsteps of their parents. In total, rent or own, 38% of millennials live in the suburbs, compared to 37% in the city. … read more via hyperlink above …
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November 26, 2018 8:21pm
krazykiwi

The UK is screwed.

Theresa the Appeaser will get off an plane, waving a bit of paper promising economic ‘peace for our time‘.

UK citizens should be very, very pissed off here.

Their democratically delivered mandate has been ignored.
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November 26, 2018 9:35pm
softail 1450

Krazykiwi, they want to break from the EU and Teresa brings them a 500 page agreement and states “it’s a great deal”
Fricking Poms deserve everything coming to them for shitting on us all those years ago.
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  Yes, they slithered off to EU, leaving us on a precipice for a number of years.
  Yet like fools, we still accepted their second-rate, union-grubbing, citizens so they could fete Islamists from Pakistan in particular, to give them cheap labour.
  The only thing Poms have ever done for NZ is infest it in gorse, rabbits, and unionists.
  
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  November 27, 2018 7:53am
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  I lived there for a few years – most preferred their Commonwealth friends to the EU or EEC which is what it was back then. People weren’t told that their old friends would be kicked in the groin.
  
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