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duggledog

If it’s good enough for Labour and the Greens to hijack and sabotage the partial sale of energy retailers when National was in office

I hereby give Simon Bridges permission to loudly advise New Zealanders not to take part in the purchase of any “Kiwibuild” property, as they will be cheaply built shit boxes within a subwoofer of State House tenants. I repeat ‘loudly’.

This will piss Twyford off no end.
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November 24, 2018 8:01am
- Dave Mann
  
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  Good call, except for the fact that poor Soimon can’t really do anything ‘loudly’.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:17am
  - GazzaW
    
    Get over it Dave. Bridges name is Simon. Once is funny, repeated use is almost as boring as repeated comments about Ardern’s teeth.
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:29am
  - Tall Man
    
    He is muffled by the press. They are so besotted by Ardern the liar that the only time Simon Bridges will get air time is when he has to answer slanted questions from an extremely biased MSM. That just clearly demonstrates the fear that both the coalition and Ardern the liar in particular have of him.
    
    Now that may make you feel warm and fuzzy all over but remember, they may be currently muzzling someone you despise but they are also avoiding honest assessment of what is really happening so your warm fuzzies may well be based on a pile of bullshit.
    
    Don’t you care that Karel Sroubeck, a known drug dealer and gang affiliate was given residency in NZ despite advice to the contrary?
    
    As a New Zealander, aren’t you concerned that you have no idea what the terms of the agreement between Ardern the liar and the Toxic winston really involve?
    
    Do you really not give a shit when the leader of your party and the current unelected pm resorts to obfuscation or blatant lies when questioned or to bolster her fragile ego?
    
    Are you not concerned when a known personal associate of Ardern the liar, D Handley, receives both citizenship and a job without legitimately qualifying for either?
    
    I guess not in your case. Perhaps you can explain to us why the above don’t concern you at all.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:15am
    - Dave Mann
      
      All the above concern me greatly and together we could probably both assemble a huge list where we have complete agreement, mate.
      
      But I happen to think that Soimon isn’t up to the task of leading the opposition to this bunch of criminal hugging quasi communist ecofucks and I frankly despair that the party that he leads has much of a chance of saving our country from becoming another Zimbabwe or Venezuela within the next few years.
      
      p.s. I’m writing this fresh in the knowledge that I’m a slightly right wing Libertarian (see marcmywords’ ‘political compass’ thread below 😀 )
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:11am
      - Tall Man
        
        You are also in the minority. Call him soimon if that makes you feel better but he is growing into the role very well considering the continual spiteful attacks by the media fueled in no small part by the real fear the coalition have of him.
        
        I guess you have watched him in the house and unless you and I are in different planets I see nothing to make me wish to offer him anything other than respect.
        
        Without wanting to push any of your buttons, please identify where you think he could do better with the limited press time and zero press support he receives.
        
        Check out the National party web site and actually read it. You may be surprised.
        
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        November 24, 2018 12:23pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        I’m not in the minority at all. At the last poll only 7% of people preferred him as a possible PM and this figure is a DROP of 3% from the previous one.
        
        The man comes across as a featureless dribble in his media performances and he has no FIRE and zero PASSION.
        
        Even if his mind is in the right place, he seems to have absolutely no ability to express this in a way that connects with the audience. Actually I wonder if his mind IS in the right place, but hey, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt.
        
        Adern is an openly communistic ecofuck, an incompetent and probably corrupt liar and freak show who accidentally got pushed into the job and she commands 42% approval and rising. Stop and ask yourself “Is National in deep shit or what?”
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:02pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        I’m fascinated by the amount of disagreement with my unbiased and factually based assessment of the so-called current ‘leader’ of the so-called ‘opposition’.
        
        Measuring by the sheer number of downticks alone it seems that a huge majority here think that National led by this bloke has a shit show of unseating the communist alliance in 2020.
        
        I’m flabbergasted. Do you just feel sorry for the guy, or what?
        
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        November 24, 2018 5:51pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Tall Mann 2 12:23pm – apologies, “reported in error”. (Damned ‘Reply’ buttons too close together.)
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:36pm
- artemisia
  
  But they have really pretty whiteware supplied.
  
  Have a mate working on the tools at Kiwibuild site. Low on the totem pole but experienced and says there are quality issues. He was specific but I’m not passing that on because second hand and might identify him.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:26am
  - softail 1450
    
    artemisia, I hope its not F&P product ,we recently spent a lot of money on an entirely new kitchen including taking out walls , 2 large beams ,builders,electricians, jib stoppers ,plumbers etc etc
    when finished the only problems we have had is the Fisher and Paykel junk ,both the hob and fridge have been problematic .
    DON’T buy this rubbish,after 3 months the fridge was bleeding water all over our new floors and the hob had started to crack,hob replaced and it took three visits to fix the bleeding fridge……
    Fucking rubbish…
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:44am
    - Harkman
      
      I know some F&P stuff is bloody rubbish. In this rebuild I’m staying in, the bottom of the oven went after 3 years and the side light, got the guy to fix it this time last year, within 6 months it all went again. In many cases the budget brand in the store is better. It sadly is a case of buying the German, Scandinavian or even Italian btand instead of ours.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:53am
      - softail 1450
        
        Harkman ,that is what we will do ,thankfully the sizes are all standard so shouldn’t need any alterations at all.
        
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        November 24, 2018 8:57am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        F & P used to be OK. Did the problems start when they sold out to that Chinese outfit?
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:01am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Yup, I was in Harvey Normans, and the Chinese sales assistant told us to avoid F & P as its made in China. They also have a whole bunch of clones that are even worse. F& P are aware of this ( I know someone who works for them) but what they will do is another question.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:24am
    - artemisia
      
      Very unlikely that a large government adjacent (see what I did there?) programme would buy appliances from other than a local company. I had a look at a couple of Kiwibuild developer websites but couldn’t see appliance brands.
      
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      November 24, 2018 1:10pm
- Nostalgia-NZ
  
  This Kiwi Build is starting to look like a train wreck for quality control and proper process. It seems developers are tapping in and cutting corners which is nobody’s best interest except for numbers on the board. Labour should slow down and make sure they have it right. They could use National’s current poor performance as an opposition to do that now. I would hope National realises this and do their homework on this now rather than continuing to shoot itself in the foot and become more submerged in coverups. I’ve read predictions that National are now polling under 40%, if that is true Labour should up their game with quality of governance – if they can of course. Kiwi Build is a place to improve the systems, not just a chance for photo opportunities over what may soon become a stinking carcass.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:18am
  - Nostalgia-NZ
    
    I should verify that I have no confirmation of the issues with Kiwi Build, but rather concerns when developers can sell half their intended build off the plans to the Government. It has to be right, not rushed – because of the financial commitment for young families and the Government role should be a water tight guarantee.
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:34am
    - KevOB
      
      Yeah: Young families on $200K+ a year. It’s social housing for the rest.
      
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      November 24, 2018 2:15pm
  - lastmanstanding
    
    I suspect leaky buildings is going to have nothing on Kiwi Build. I expect in the next few years Billions of out dollars will be required to remedy the problems of shoddy work
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:50am
  - Tall Man
    
    So I guess that is the labour comment of the day so thanks, nice to see they are still scared shitless by the opposition and in particular Simon Bridges.
    
    Ardern the liar..”The vice President has asked to be seated next to me….” bullshit
    
    Ardern the liar.. ” I have reviewed the information supplied on Karel Sroubek and I completely support the minister’s decision…”
    
    Ardern the liar on the serious sexual assaults at the youth camp…”…………..”….” I didn’t know, nobody told me…..” Yeah right.
    
    Now, please explain how have a mentally disturbed mp in your party is the party’s fault? JLR is a headbanger, horrible but true.
    
    When Dover Samuels played with his 15 year old niece was that labour’s fault?
    
    When Shane Jones got creative in his hotel room with the credit card was that labour’s fault?
    
    You need to face facts, your leader is an unapologetic liar and it is hard to take her seriously. Keep trying to divert by poking bullshit at the opposition but remember, even a worm turns so watch out when the MSM have finally had enough of Ardern the liar.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:25am
    - RF
      
      Yep. Ardern the liar, Jethro the fool.
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:44am
      - Paulus
        
        Where is Jethro ?
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:05am
      - calendar girl
        
        Out mowing lawns?
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:46pm
  - VicParking
    
    Link Please: “I’ve read predictions that National are now polling under 40%,”
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:36am
    - Tall Man
      
      It’s on the imaginary “labour want it to be true page”.
      
      More made up crap from the interns.
      
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      November 24, 2018 12:25pm
    - gorse
      
      Talking to someone “in the know” last week, they are about 43%
      
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      November 24, 2018 2:44pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Simon does nothing. Move on.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:30am
  - Tall Man
    
    You wish.
    
    Ardern the liar does nothing of benefit to anyone other than herself.
    
    There, fixed it for you.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:27am
    - realityczech
      
      The fact Ardern is hideous and an offence to all things decent, does not make Simon a good leader.
      
      Tribal morons like you will cost National the next election, and propably the one after that.
      
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      November 24, 2018 2:47pm
MrTips

Tracy Watkins makes a solid play for Mike Jaspers recently vacated spin job this morning. Her latest offering on Stuff this morning is a poor damage control effort though. No mention of Sroubek/ILG cock-up, Labour youth camp abuse debacle, Socialist Cindy’s being rebuffed by both the USA and China leadership or the KiwiBuild fiasco. These are all recent and hanging over Labour like Damacles sword: she obviously didn’t think she could really get away with it which is why no comments allowed.

But Watkins gives away more than she should have. No mention of the Greens at all. I have heard things are really not good in the coalition, esp. with the Greens highly annoyed at Winston getting all the light. 2019 won’t be good Tracy, but for all the reasons you are trying to hide.
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November 24, 2018 8:04am
- Gravelroad
  
  Meteria Turei
  Labour youth camp
  Meka Whaiteri
  
  No clarity
  No accountability
  No decision reported
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:25am
  - gump
    
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    Jian Yang – an agent of the Chinese Communist Government
    
    Removed from the foreign affairs, defence and trade parliamentary select committee following an investigation by the SIS.
    
    Allowed to remain in our parliament as a National party list MP
    
    No clarity
    No accountability
    No decision taken
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:46am
    - softail 1450
      
      Dump ,gone mad already at only 8.46 am .
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:59am
      - Tall Man
        
        Never sane I think….
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:30am
      - Piniwi
        
        Funny softail 1450 after getting up earlier enough with 5 hour time lag got to see the B4 and after that made it look almost a spontaneous correction. Cheers.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @Gump
      Would you like to discuss MP Raymond Hua’s role in the Labour Party?
      
      Could you tell us what happened to the Tibetan complaint about Hua’s blog article defending China’s occupation of Tibet?
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/human-rights/news/article.cfm?c_id=500838&objectid=10656194
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Huo
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:36am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Just fuck off with your useless trolling. ILG giving residence to a (reading between the lines) drug provider to Labour Party mates. No, I don’t know if that’s true, (I really, really hope it is) but I am following SLG’s instructions here. All Heil Cindy, Reader between the Lines….
      
      Just to be clear, NOT spreading rumours, Just Reading Between the Lines…
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:29am
    - Tall Man
      
      Hey useless….
      
      How about you respond to Maggy’s reasonable question.
      
      Please identify any National promulgated legislation either in force or under consideration that could be deemed, “China influenced”.
      
      As usual, you have no answer so will resort to idiocy as it your want.
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:30am
      - sooty
        
        Stephie is a girl.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:53am
- Prince
  
  She has some valid analysis, but Ardern’s ‘international stardom’ ?
  Give one example.
  No tariff relief compared to our allies, disastrous stint at Nauru, sited next to Mrs Pence in Singapore summit when she told all within earshot it was the VP, standard round of US talk shows during the UN NY shindig with no lasting impression.
  Clearly on the wrong side of anyone with influence.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:40am
  - niggly
    
    At the recent East Asia summit in Singapore did the NZ media actually mention that Jacinda actually received a bit of a “diplomatic blast” from the Malaysian PM about NZ not being naive about China and its ambitions in the South China Sea as one day these issues may affect NZ and the Pacific?
    
    https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2018/11/20/jacindas-confrontation-with-hard-nose-regional-politics/#more-929
    
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5967367660001
    
    Don’t recall the NZ MSM highlighting Jacinda’s “negative” press moment!
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:16am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      If I recall correctly Jacinda Ardern demanded that Reporters/Journalists leave as soon as Mahathir Mohamad spoke of China’s activities in the South China Seas.
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/11/malaysian-pm-mahathir-mohamad-warns-ardern-of-china-s-actions-in-south-china-sea.html
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:43am
      - niggly
        
        Thanks Maggy, glad to see there was some MSM coverage then, and from the Newshub article:
        
        Media were quickly shuffled out of the room during a meeting between Malaysia and New Zealand when Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad started airing concerns over China’s actions in the South China Sea.
        
        Imagine if this happened under National’s watch! NZ MSM would be making a big story about themselves being “kicked out” as front page news, superimposed with “leaked” shots of John Key or Bill English smiling when greeting Mahathir Mohamad, with Patrick Gower and co reporting from outside the doorway (blocked by Security “thugs” of course) saying “National suppressing reporting of any hint of criticism of themselves by world leaders etc” ….
        
        Perhaps though in this case Jacinda was anxious enough to ensure no-one back home here sees that not all world leaders have been smitten by “Jacindamania”???!!! Oh dear 🙂
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:44am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Perhaps though in this case Jacinda was anxious enough to ensure no-one back home here sees that not all world leaders have been smitten by “Jacindamania
        
        She was clearly afraid of upsetting China….
        same as her position at APEC.
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:50am
  - KevOB
    
    Ardern’s hi viz in the lineup at Asean?
    
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    November 24, 2018 2:19pm
- Paulus
  
  But our Commander in Chief of our Defence Force (includes the Police) is giving the Defence Force and the Lawyers the hard word not to proceed with the costs in respect of an Airforce Lady.
  Should the Airforce give her the correct sign Foxtrot Oscar.
  They would not dare as she has one hell of a temper when she does not get her own way.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:44am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Next government will be Labour-Green without Winston. So no worries.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:32am
  - Tall Man
    
    Awesome, great laugh, thanks.
    
    My advice is to seek out both a green mp and a green party official and see if they are on the same page.
    
    You will find that the majority of the greens aren’t into government as they get better feelz attacking rather than enacting.
    
    Look to the labour green alliance in Australia…didn’t go too well for either party did it.
    
    Anyway, thanks for the humour bite this am, just a wedding later and was feeling a bit blue….
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:36am
- MrsAnnie
  
  I read it like I read CNN coverage of Trump
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    Totally and completely and absolutely hand on heart without bias against anyone……..
    
    I think the days of an honest press are well gone.
    
    The press are more interested in “likes” on their facebook page so pander to the idiots.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:37am
- Piniwi
  
  Thanks MrTips not only problems in the COL but apparently Labour have some very serious feelings of unease their own political future and security. The Media party started after the silly little girl returned from a disastrous performance in Singapore and PNG. Obviously her lack significance to other leaders at these gatherings might indicate the glitter has worn off to expose the disguised Commie Chick beneath.
  Old John Armstrong has lost his taste fr Koolaide with this opinion piece : John Armstrong’s opinion: “Ardern’s fear of Labour losing its base support makes party look like a soft touch”
  “Regardless, one conclusion can be drawn from the whole saga: Ardern’s fear of her party losing its base support makes Labour look like a soft touch, while also making something of a mockery of its claim of being fiscally stringent.” Had to laugh at ” fiscally stringent” as well as his long winded style that seemed only to be intended to fill his quota. He missed a great chance to enumerate the run of problems, scandals and blunders that remain contentious, controversial or blatant disregard of the established parliamentary process still outstanding. We also note that feelz as well as visions have been replaced with something quite new that is being bandied around. HOPE as in “the PM hopes .” Like rents wont rise from their bad moves against landlords or hopes to get a trip to China next year. They are not interested in seeing her this year which makes us wonder that they prefer her not to interfere in the trade tussle they are having with the USA?
  Watkins waffle seems to confirm the message has gone out to the slow as well as the quick among the Media party support crew as concerns rise of rearranging the deck chairs yet again. It has even slipped in the backdoor of WO as the blubber masters struggle to fill in the daily space in his absence. Now commentators have turned new tricks as contributors making us think they might be better suited to idling away in a spare deck chair. Take heart trendsetters we are in for a delight as the House is back from recess this week and the fun will really start on Tuesday.
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:47am
  - Paulus
    
    Took a look at the Standard recently – seems that Ardern is no longer the flavour of the real Left Wing women. They are actually criticising her !
    Wonder why ?
    Have they now found out that she is still a Liar ?
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:11am
    - KevOB
      
      Ardern is slowly revealing her true commie. She is one of their ruling classes–a true greedy self centred opportunist.
      “Some animals are more equal than others”.
      
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      November 24, 2018 2:25pm
- Faroffsound
  
  On the strength of this morning’s effort Ms Watkins could well end up working for the PM.
  
  I noticed that comments weren’t invited – no surprises there!
  
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  November 24, 2018 2:31pm
igm

Passing through Sanson yesterday so made our usual stop at Viv’s Kitchen. Once again provided with great hospitality, great music, great food, and no screaming kids.
Used male covenience, noticing a brat table has still not been installed, so the whinging millenials who caused a stir with a compliant media have been ignored . . . good decision Viv.
Seems adverse publicity had a reverse effect as they were as usual, very busy . . . many contented customers, being vested workers, boomers, and just a nice cross section of community.
Keep up the great work and don’t be intimidated by left-wing media, whinging millenials, or vile feminists.
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November 24, 2018 8:04am
- Inandout
  
  igm, this sort of disregard for PC idiocy works well in the rural areas, the types who voted for Trump in the US. Speak to Hawera people and they will tell you that the Lions float fiasco was pure bullshit. As for Viv’s, go girl!
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:33am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    If for nothing else, a stop at Viv’s for a cream horn is an absolute MUST when passing through Sanson.
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:24am
    - sooty
      
      Stephies, idea is different than yours!
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:06am
artemisia

Are landlords selling up? What’s up with new borrowing by property investors? (They would be the folk supplying the private rental pool.)

Looks like room for some data cherry picking by Mr Twyford and Ms Ardern to demonstrate that property investors are *not* getting out of the market.

Feel free to read between the following lines ….

1. Mr Twyford quoting Corelogic “National saying that landlords are selling up is simply scaremongering,” he told NZME. “Corelogic data shows that landlords purchased 38 percent of properties in October, which is consistent with the last two years – there has been no change in landlord activity.” (Newshub link 19 November)
2. Brian Fallow. ”In September, the share of new lending going to investors was 21 per cent, down from 26 per cent two years ago, while the share going to first home buyers rose from 12 to 17 per cent over the same period.”(Herald link 23 November)
3. Salvation Army. ”The demand for rentals is growing at three times the rate of home ownership in New Zealand, a new study says.” (Newshub link 17 October)
4. Trademe October property price index 21 November. “…. far more houses coming onto the market than last year, in October there was a 14 per cent boost in the number of properties for sale compared with 2017.” And “Buyers in the Auckland region have plenty to choose from at the moment with 23 per cent more properties onsite than last year.” So 14% more properties on the market nationwide, compared to a year ago. And 23% more in Auckland. (That’s a lot more properties on the market, more than a usual spring surge obviously. Are they sellers emigrating? Landlords selling up? New builds waiting for buyers? What happens to prices and developers if they don’t sell in a reasonable timeframe? Has the Housing Minister asked his advisers?)

http://Www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/11/rents-up-20-in-two-months-who-s-to-blame.html
http://Www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12164602
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/10/rental-demand-outstripping-home-ownership-rates-in-new-zealand-report.html
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November 24, 2018 8:04am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  What does Hugh want to tell us about this, endlessly, over and over, again and again, not for the last time, again, finally, but wait . . . .
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:23am
  - artemisia
    
    Heh, I tried not to do a Hugh. Sorry if the post was too long but I had a point to make about lies, damn lies ….
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:29am
    - kevn
      
      @art… My observation is that many of the rental homes sold, are being used for AirbnB or Bookabatch.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:40am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      The post was fine. It was the percieved affront that someone would know about, let alone write something about property, other than Hugh.
      
      Next thing there will be a post about Lundy from someone who is not a total loon and before you know it, all sensibility associated with this blog is down the gurgler!
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:52am
    - Tall Man
      
      Lies? “Ardernisms” you mean.
      
      It’s not really a lie if you smile.
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:39am
      - sooty
        
        Depends if your teeth are showing!
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:09am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Ardernism! What a great word! A word that can be ‘coughed’ when someone is talking!
        
        Ardern is to truth what Malaprop is to pronunciation
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:16pm
kowtow

More pointless virtue signalling.

“Mrs Conway, who has lived in New Zealand for almost eight years, is in her first year of studying the Southern Institute of Technology’s te reo Maori course. When she received her citizenship letter, the Queenstown Lakes District Council planner noted giving the affirmation in Maori was not an option, so asked if she could.

“I thought it would be cool to do it in Maori … it felt right doing it in te reo.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/biggest-intake-citizens-and-first-time-affirmation-maori
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November 24, 2018 8:05am
- Southern Raider
  
  Send her home
  
  Is she the planner who stated that the Central Otago cafe was only allowed 20 chairs
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:23am
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    make that 12 chairs!!!!!
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:55am
- Huevon
  
  She’s welcome to move to Ruatoria or Kaitaia. Plenty more opportunities to use her beloved “te reo” skills there than in Queenstown.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:23am
- sightpicture
  
  Trougher-in-the-making. Likely to be very successful at it… if that is her definition of success in life.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:31am
- All_on_Red
  
  Wow, check out the Cultural Appropriation from this import.
  What a nerve
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  November 24, 2018 8:47am
- Tall Man
  
  Stupid is as stupid does.
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:40am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
For those who have watched season 2 of Making a Murderer, here is analysis of important elements by an American expert.

“Zellner’s consultants used a high-powered microscope to examine the bullet from Avery’s garage. It has fragments of wood embedded in it.

Zellner fired some bullets through a piece of wood siding and ended up with reference samples that look the same under a microscope.

This was a bullet that someone shot through a piece of wood, smeared with a known source of Halbach’s DNA, and dropped on the floor of Avery’s garage. It is crude work that does not hold up to scrutiny.

It was contrived to support a theory that does not fit with the blood evidence in the back of Halbach’s car, which forms two recognizable patterns and could not have been faked. The blood evidence shows that Halbach was bludgeoned when she was standing behind her car with the rear cargo door open. Her body was loaded into the back of her car. The skull fragments suggest she was shot twice in the head with a .22, presumably to make sure she was dead.

Reasonable people can debate who killed her, but physical evidence leaves no doubt as to how it happened.”

………………………..

So the question is why was Teresa standing behind her vehicle with the cargo door open? Could Bobby Dassey have persuaded her to do so? Whoever did went on to be part of the conspiracy to frame Steven Avery. In New Zealand the police planted bullet evidence to frame Arthur Thomas in a similar vein to this bullet evidence planting here. Did Lieutenant James Lenk embark on the ultimate solidarity campaign and inveigle the help of PC Andrew Colborn to get the 36 million law suit off the county’s back? These guys were exposed for deliberately keeping Steven Avery in jail for 6 years while they knew who the rapist was, and the law suit conveniently went away after this murder with Avery in jail.

Does Zellner believe Bobby Dassey did it or is he a convenient Denny suspect as Glen Weggery was in Lundy?

This American guy is intensely interested in the Lundy case and has the whole trove of files, court submissions and evidence, access to everything. He and a number of others in America are hell bent on exposing the case for the international good, to debunk hoax forensic science and generally to get innocent people out of jail and off death row. Internationally court systems can not be trusted in this endeavour.

This we all know.

Over the next several months the case is to be correctly retold and the full truth revealed, and it could be one local court proceeding away from being out of the hands of New Zealanders, the media here are afraid to investigate and report.
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November 24, 2018 8:10am
- MrTips
  
  I suggest prunes or a pencil NSF. One of those should be able to help you work it out.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:13am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Beyond the Darklands
    Series 3 Episode 4 Mark Lundy
    
    When even one of our most prominent psychologists says his behaviour was evidence of his guilt.
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:21am
    - Notsofast
      
      Nigel Latta breached the inviolable code of registered psychologists, never publicly analyse a subject without having interviewed him Latta has never met Mark Lundy, he is a disgraceful charlatan who will be described correctly by the case researchers and scribes for the lies he has invented.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:28am
      - Inandout
        
        nsf, I agree Latta is a charlatan, and I add as useless as a spare prick at a wedding. This being said, he is probably correct in his opinion of Lundy, but he had screeds of information to draw from to form his opinion; doesn’t need to meet the man. I will further add that a lawyer who once was involved in an attempted Lundy retrial, is sadly now clinically insane.
        
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        November 24, 2018 8:44am
      - Notsofast
        
        Jonathan Eaton is dedicated to the case. He seems shocked by the decision which is incorrect at every pass. He is far from insane, and has previously achieved the exoneration of Rex Haig and George Gwaze. Read the tea leaves, defence attorneys know infinitely more case facts than judges, that is the nature of things.
        David Hislop hanged Lundy by finding Colin Smith and Ironside to concede a falsehood, that the stain material was pure CNS tissue. There is no forensic evidence it is CNS tissue at all, and contains animal dna, so is from the food chain.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:05am
      - Tall Man
        
        Is that you mark, glad to see you got your internet access back in prison.
        
        Why don’t you go back to looking at hooker’s profiles and eave the rest of us to enjoy our weekend.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:42am
    - softail 1450
      
      S C,Thanks for that ,what a shock to go back and see
      Amanda Gillies,Hillary Barry and John Campbell ,all on the same shows,,,,,,fuuuccck things haven’t improved as far as reporters and journalists are concerned …..
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:00am
- Nostradamus
  
  Notsofast:
  
  Have you considered asking People Against Prisons Aotearoa to support your ongoing quest to save Mark Lundy from rotting in a prison cell?
  
  Here’s some of their policies:
  
  – End the practice of double-bunking and institute a moratorium on all prison construction.
  – Provide access to a variety of safer sex options, including condoms and Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) in all New Zealand prisons.
  – Allow all prisoners access to the underwear, other clothing, and
  makeup of their choice.
  Abolish prisons in Aotearoa.
  
  Mark Lundy has lost weight in prison, so obviously a bread-and-water diet suits him. I’m guessing that double-bunking and “hot-tubbing Olympics” has done him a world of good too!
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:25am
  - Notsofast
    
    Yes, this is the good news. He is also very resilient, as all innocent prisoners are. Try reading Life After Death by Damien Echolls for a truly extraordinary and superbly written account of persecution by the state.
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:30am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Surely there must be another forum you can take your hard-on for family killer Lundy to?
      Somewhere that hands out free lube and sympathy cos` ur not getting any cut thru here for your obsession.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:43am
      - SGA
        
        Well… various people’s obsessions constitute a significant part of KB’s fare. 🙂
        
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        November 24, 2018 8:50am
      - Nostalgia-NZ
        
        While the Lundy case is a lead balloon on KB a very significant point is reached. Whilst we have Christine’s DNA on his shirt (the same as probably every other married male wife’s DNA,) there remains a big problem that no DNA from Christine was found in the alleged CNS material (interally that is). Also not found were any neurons (the building block of the CNS with billions in even a tiny speck) – what was found was mammalian DNA in quantities larger than human DNA. Until that is resolved the Lundy case will not go away. Among the many questions is how does CNS possibly not have neurons? Why is there a border between DNA being on the shirt but none in the alleged CNS (yes right inside as it should be also surrounded by billions of neurons – but instead animal DNA). No signs of any other material from the wounds either. Of course I expect some bright Kiwiblogger can explain how DNA arrives in isolation on a shirt but none in the alleged CNS if, and it’s a big ‘if’ they arrived at the same time? Easy one for somebody filled up with Latta and ‘no man has the right to have his wife’s brain on his shirt.’
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:06am
    - srylands
      
      Sure it is “possible” that Lundy is innocent.
      
      I was convinced that Lindy Chamberlain killed Azaria. Then the baby clothes were found chewed up by a dingo.
      
      But in this case who is the ‘dingo’?
      
      The fake grief at the funeral was the sign. It was comedy gold.
      
      He had motive and opportunity and there is the DNA and acting out at the funeral. But good luck in finding your dingo.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:53am
      - Notsofast
        
        It is not generally known that he was the conservative on finance, Christine was the accountant and more liberal with interpretation of GST. There was no argument between them, the motive is an invented falsehood.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:12am
      - harvey wilson
        
        I have a couple of mates who make kitchens and bought sinks off Lundy . They knew him for years and believe he’s guilty, before he butchered his family they described him as a “ fat sleazy prick” .
        Not sure why you’d go all Karam over this scumbag but I’m sure there’s far more deserving cases out there.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:18am
      - Nostalgia-NZ
        
        An American scientist who is an expert on the Chamberlain case has been helping out for some years. The ‘blood’ under the dashboard used to convict was later determined to underseal. Of course he is objective about ‘fake grief’ and comedy gold as you put it.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:28am
      - Notsofast
        
        This is a matter of public interest when the police lock up the wrong man and leave killers unharrassed. 10km away and 10 years later killers took out Scott Guy. Many believe they are from the same societal strata as the Lundy killers, maybe they took comfort from this unsolved case.
        Oh, and maybe Lundy had some good points, he was at the hub of an active social group your friends clearly didn’t belong to. Most people are not subjected to public character study.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:31am
      - srylands
        
        I wouldn’t engage normally but I am having my hair done so have an hour to kill. So who do you think killed them? No doubt you have said before, but I haven’t bothered to read.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:53am
      - harvey wilson
        
        This would be the social group that said he made sexual comments about girls in his daughters ballet class?
        
        As for “ many” believing that the killers are from the same social strata . Who are these people that think that way? Whatever shred of credibility you might have had disappeared with that comment. It’s well into 9/11 was an inside job type of batshittery
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:59am
      - Notsofast
        
        harvey, Mark Lundy and his friends had zip, nada to do with this crime, you are misunderstanding.
        The strata I refer to would fuel up on p for dutch courage for a purposeful home invasion.
        With the extremely sharp weapon, not axe or tomahawk unless beautifully hollow ground, there appears a preparedness for trouble and to kill if necessary. Who sent this person? That is the solution to the crime. It was not random, and they could not know Lundy was away from home.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:35am
      - srylands
        
        I’m not really inconvenienced by the ban. But I have purchased rolls of plastic bags for picking up dog shit and storing dirty gym gear. I also purchase bin liners.
        
        I don’t like excess plastic. But the risk is that dumb people think that this measure will solve the problem. Examples. Yesterday I bought two sandwiches. In thick clam shell plastic. I had a small computer component delivered. Packed in thick plastic that required a knife to open. All packed inside bubble wrap inside a cardboard box. Fucking nuts.
        
        We will only get rid of excess plastic if consumers act with their wallets. But they won’t. Their collective consciences are now all clear because they visit the supermarket with their jute bags. And happily wander the aisles of the supermarket. Surrounded by products contained in plastic. Mountains of it.
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:10am
      - srylands
        
        Apologies. Comment in wrong thread and can’t delete it for some reason.
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:14am
  - VicParking
    
    Changed his toilet shedule thats for sure
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:45am
Manolo

Why is MX allowing this?
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-california/sd-me-border-show-of-force-tijuana-20181122-story.html
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November 24, 2018 8:15am
oldpark

Ever since the renegade Peters selected the Lie-bour/Far Left Lunatic misandrist Green Party to sit on the Treasury Benches . What the fugh is going on . First it was Commie Chic Comrade Ardern and Lunatic Greens shutting down oil and gas exploration.
Next multiple plastic bags. Another little gem. They are going to ban so called vaping. Used by hard working NZs to stop smoking tobacco products. NZs are being led by the nose by a gang of Social Engineering Fughwits.
That certainly is the Legacy of NZS chief Fughwit Peters. Yes it was him and Ron “skid” Mark who sanctioned the laughable inquiry into our brave NZs soldiers SAS. Just think off the social engineering mess and dictatorial control of the well being of NZs being carried out by a bunch Peters selected no hopers, with alot more to come.
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November 24, 2018 8:16am
- MCos
  
  I listened to the news.
  As far as I could tell vaping is going to be banned in the same places as cigarette smoking, for example restaurants, malls etc
  I hardly ever see anyone vaping in our neck of the woods and never where cigarettes are not allowed. Personally I’d be pretty annoyed if someone on the next table was emitting great clouds of smoke all over the place and I doubt if I’d be on my own.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:30am
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What is MX ?
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November 24, 2018 8:17am
- Dave Mann
  
  I haven’t read the link because I’m not really interested in America, but I think Manolo means Mexico.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:35am
Southern Raider

All “single use” plastic bags to be banned within six months our dear leader confirmed yesterday.

All shops even using thicker bags like those at Farmers or electronic retailers will be illegal
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November 24, 2018 8:19am
- Dave Mann
  
  And what does the National party ‘opposition’ have to say about this? Anything?
  
  We are now witnessing the degeneration of NZ from being a democracy to a totalitarian state where there is only the illusion of choice for change – but no actual substance and no hope that anything will get better.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:26am
  - Inandout
    
    Dave Mann, I ask that question regularly now, and if Simon doesn’t man up in Parliament next week, I will let National go to the dogs. The plastic bag ban is bullshit, when milk is sold by the millions in such containers. I personally like milk in cardboard, but it is not priced for the less well off, so plastic reigns there. Labour will not upset their voter base, so disposable nappies remain plastic based.
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:52am
    - srylands
      
      Someone has made a mint in the last 6 months. Maybe 10 million of the reusable bags have been sold.
      
      I’ve thrown out at least 3 that have become contaminated. I can’t be arsed washing them.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:59am
      - Inandout
        
        sry, I use the bigger PnS yellow plastic bags for a few items, but if the trolley is full I place them back in after they have been scanned on the counter. I refuse to use those supermarket ‘bag lady’ containers. I notice that we don’t buy ‘impulse’ items any more, probably because of the hassle of packing them.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:08am
      - srylands
        
        I’m not really inconvenienced by the ban. But I have purchased rolls of plastic bags for picking up dog shit and storing dirty gym gear. I also purchase bin liners.
        
        I don’t like excess plastic. But the risk is that dumb people think that this measure will solve the problem. Examples. Yesterday I bought two sandwiches. In thick clam shell plastic. I had a small computer component delivered. Packed in thick plastic that required a knife to open. All packed inside bubble wrap inside a cardboard box. Fucking nuts.
        
        We will only get rid of excess plastic if consumers act with their wallets. But they won’t. Their collective consciences are now all clear because they visit the supermarket with their jute bags. And happily wander the aisles of the supermarket. Surrounded by products contained in plastic. Mountains of it.
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:04am
      - sooty
        
        Go shopping and if you can’t carry it, leave it behind!
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:19am
      - KevOB
        
        Re-using plastic bags is a public health risk.
        
        Before we had welcomed plastic bags open mesh plastic woven or knitted strings bags were popular. They were expandable and like commodious.
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:35pm
  - Tall Man
    
    How would you know what National are saying about anything when the MSM will not give them air time other than for silly scandals.
    
    However, in order to assist you I suggest you head here
    
    https://www.national.org.nz/
    
    Then search any topic that concerns you.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:51am
    - Komata
      
      Tall Man
      
      Thank you.
      
      I notice that Mr Bridges and his ‘all new team’ are developing policies for 2020.
      
      No policies for TOMORROW should there be an election!
      
      Methinks they are suffering from the same malaise as Labour when it was in opposition; a phenomenon called ‘Lotsatimeism’, as in ‘We’ve got lotsa time’ to develop policies.
      
      Doesn’t exactly engender confidence I’m afraid..
      
      Perhaps some party member who visits here should convey that to him…
      
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      November 24, 2018 1:24pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I don’t agree at all.
        
        Ask Ardern the liar to call the election and then we’ll see what has been developed. I thought I saw you referring to your gun club, apologies if I’m wrong but if so, why would you fire your rounds before you got to the hunting ground?
        
        The major difference was that labour had 9 years to sort their shit out. They didn’t but went into an election campaign with uncosted promises and feel good appeals to the simpler minded among us. That got them 37%. The greens always have their simpllistic voters how don’t even look at policy and winston gained 7% by promising to abolish maori seats and cut immigration to 10,000. Neither of those policies were doable and he didn’t even try to get them through in the “secret” agreement. The election was a fraud but we still have a majority of people getting the bulk of their income from the state so National, the party of achievers will always struggle to get much over 50%.
        
        Get ardern the liar to call an election and let’s see who has the policies.
        
        So far, apart from millions going into “committees”, what are labour’s doable policies?
        
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        November 25, 2018 10:35am
    - calendar girl
      
      That’s a minor cop-out, Tall Man (if I may be allowed to say so). National should not be concentrating on the National faithful who may occasionally read its website. It has to get targeted, vote-changing messages through to those whose votes installed Peters’ COL in late 2017.
      
      It’s for Simon Bridges and his senior spokespeople to capture the political attention and interest of non-National voters. To induce them to think about issues and policies in a manner that is different from that used by our pervasive left-leaning media.
      
      So far, Bridges has not shown the analytical, strategic and leadership skills to achieve those necessary objectives. Nice guy, Bridges, but with a lack of personal cut-through to the masses.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:40pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I don’t agree and it’s not election year so why announce anything. There are 2 more years of this coalition and a good policy should be formulated in response to current actions. Those actions are still progressing and so is the policy.
        
        You may not like Simon Bridges but consider this, how much airtime has he had without a negative presenter doing their best to undermine him rather than interview him. Yet he has endured that and is still considered a nice guy.
        
        If the media had performed in an identical manner with ardern the liar would many in NZ feel the way they do?
        
        I doubt it.
        
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        November 25, 2018 10:38am
- tf78
  
  Our recycle bin is full of brown paper bags which interestingly enough have to be used 42 times to be eco friendly. Roll on 2020 if not before.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:29am
  - kowtow
    
    I wouldn’t be confident that the Gnats would overturn any ban . They went donkey deep on the attck on private property rights and tobacco.
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:32am
    - Dave Mann
      
      I wouldn’t be too confident that the Gnats would overturn any of the disastrous policies enacted by this bunch of criminal hugging quasi communist ecofucks who have grabbed control of our country. In fact I wouldn’t be too confident that the Gnats will even wake up in time for the next election, let alone win it 🙁
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:44am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Tooth Fairy will still be the PM after 2020.
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:41am
    - Tall Man
      
      And then you woke up…. 😉
      
      You may be right but if that is the case it will be due to the mass of voters who have no intention of doing anything to benefit our country just enhance their own greed at the expense of others, much like the members of the coalition.
      
      I for one hope that common decency will prevail and the voters of New Zealand will select a government based on doing good for all, but I also expect Santa to be here in a couple of weeks….
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:57am
      - Paulus
        
        I understand that Santa is now going to be depicted as a woman from now on !
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:17am
      - Tall Man
        
        Having a lady santa gives new meaning to the phrase “come and sit on my lap young man”…”sit on my lap and come young man”.
        
        Yes I know, sexist rubbish but as I said, off to wedding so I’m feeling mournful.
        
        Bye bye but please keep posting you know what on steffy comments in my absence.
        
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        November 24, 2018 12:56pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Tall Man, but what are (or will likely be) National’s 5 or 6 key messages or policies that will need to be sold in 2020 to “the middle” electorate masses in order to ensure that the Government is changed?
        
        And who will be the capable person(s) capable of doing the selling of those messages? It’s presently too great a challenge for the leadership of the NZ National Party.
        
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        November 24, 2018 8:51pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Sorry calendar girl, still suffering wedding blues.
        
        Agree or disagree but Simon Bridges is appearing more like a leader as time goes by.
        
        As a previous commenter has stated, National probably won’t win the election, the coalition will lose it.
        
        Policy will not cut the mustard for approx 37% of the voters, we saw that last year, but a small number of those will leave when they realise that path that Ardern the liar is taking and a few of the disaffected greens will avoid making a decision so will not vote.
        
        The Maori Party will gain some ground back at the expense of labour and will naturally distrust Ardern and the rest of the party based on the non event the 3 years of labour will be.
        
        Many NZ first will swing back to National refusing to buy into winston’s lies yet again.
        
        That’s my opinion or hope but it seems a likely scenario, especially when D Handley speaks, and he will and the Sroubek case report gets released.
        
        Eventually the “coalition agreement” will be leaked and Ardern the liar will lose credibility permanently.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:56pm
  - Inandout
    
    Try the real polluters:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGsdiYdObQ
    
    We are nothing in comparison.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:47am
- stephieboy
  
  Opportunity beacons for entrepreneurs and those with brains to market a paper bag near to strong as a plastic bag. Uber eats and other fast food outlets are leading the charge.
  
  Now stop the whinge binge and look for the business opportunities that this presents.
  
  Most KB posters never!
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:18am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Maybe we can make these bags from diseased Kauri…
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:38am
    - softail 1450
      
      S S ,goat skins .
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:04am
  - Tall Man
    
    Hey steffy girl, passing on “business hints” from a party that actually despises business and those that seek to prosper from it?
    
    How about you delete plastic from you life and throw your keyboard in the bin and stay away from here.
    
    There is a labour home page for those stupid enough to actually want to read the bullshit that emanates from labour so we really don’t need you useless little snippets.
    
    Of you go..
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl.
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:02am
  - artemisia
    
    How about an opportunity to provide cheapest possible paper bags with a printed message, like –
    
    WARNING This bag may self destruct before you get home. Tell your MP.
    
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    November 24, 2018 1:14pm
  - realityczech
    
    Stupidboy reckons we should make a paper bag that is even less environmentally friendly and is not biodegradeable.
    
    Hilarious given that paper and fabric bags are already far worse than plastic.
    
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    November 24, 2018 2:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep,
      numerous studies and Government investigations have revealed that production of plastic bags use much less energy, water, resources than do single-use paper bags
      http://www.allaboutbags.ca/papervplasticstudies.html
      
      That is why the Greens and Labour folk have had to resort to the argument that plastic waste ends up in the marine food chain.
      Although all the evidence is that it is not NZ (or any 1st world country) that is responsible for most of the Marine plastic waste.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:22pm
      - realityczech
        
        Oh you and your pesky science Wiggles – what about the feelz ?
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:03pm
- lifesgood
  
  This is bloody insanity. No impulse buying, then. Yeah, I can just see retailers thrilled about that! What are you meant to do with clothes when you buy them? Walk down the street with them bunched in your arms? For God’s sake. This is all getting out of hand.
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:38am
  - Inandout
    
    life, I can see Farmers etc using paper bags for clothing. Great until it rains.LOL
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:44am
- Jules99
  
  Alternative? Paper bags. Better cut down some trees then (which, I don’t have a problem with).
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:59pm
  - Komata
    
    Jules
    
    But no, no, you MUSTN’T chop down trees to meet your greedy capitalist needs!, Trees are sentient creatures with just as much right to exist as you do etc, etc. etc.!
    
    (You know how it goes; we can’t win either way)
    
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    November 24, 2018 1:30pm
    - Jules99
      
      Apparently it uses too much water to make paper. Of course it doesn’t rain much here….
      
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      November 24, 2018 5:52pm
oldpark

Free speech comes in all shapes and sizes. A large sized Father Christmas in Auckland just got the bumbs rush for uttering the words that “boobs” on Father Christmas would not be a good look for young children as they knew he was a man.
yes a grubby little snivelling clown in Auckland had him fired. His comments were Sexist. Just more of the type of Social Engineering sweeping NZ . Thanks to Lie-bour/Lunatic Greens / Peters Party.
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November 24, 2018 8:24am
- Southern Raider
  
  Look at poll on stuff under the article.
  
  88% say he shouldn’t have been fired. There is hope
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:34am
  - Tall Man
    
    But but but…
    
    “Look at the baby and I’ll I’ll give you free shit”
    
    That’ll even it up a bit.
    
    I heard there was a silly little girl out there that used to ask Santa for her “two front teeth”, except she wouldn’t stop singing it and look what happened……
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:03am
Komata

Nsf

Umm, sorry to have to say it old chap, but you have now become a ‘One trick’ pony!

We all KNOW you believe that an injustice was done, we all KNOW that you are passionate in your pursuit of justice for Mr Lundy, but quite honestly I would suggest that because it is all you ever seem to talk about, you have gone beyond ‘boring’ and, like Hugh P, have now reached the ‘scroll past’ stage.

Perhaps, to use a legal term, you should ‘Cease and desist’, as you’ve worn away any potential sympathy for the cause, that you might once have had.

Certainly you’ve done well, but a bit of ‘silence’ may now be helpful…

(Just saying.).

Thanks.
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November 24, 2018 8:27am
- Dave Mann
  
  @Komata: That was one of the most balanced and level headed performance reviews that I have ever read! Beautifully written!
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:52am
kowtow

We live in a very strange activist era .

‘That the unassuming Dorset village of Wool derives its name from an ancient word for well, or water spring, appears to have fallen by the wayside.

No matter. Animal rights activists have declared the name an affront to sheep the world over, claiming it promotes hideous animal cruelty.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/22/wool-parish-council-forced-discuss-changing-name-vegan-wool/
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November 24, 2018 8:30am
- Southern Raider
  
  History is now just a moment in time based on when a SJW last changed the facts.
  
  When are they going to call for the Collissium to be demolished as animals were killed for entertainment?
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:36am
wreck1080

Santa got fired for saying santa should not be a woman?

Say it aint so?
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November 24, 2018 8:31am
flipper

Diversion, diversion. My Kingdom for a diversion …. so to speak.
But who needs diversions when one has a nutty Caucus, a nutty manipulator and nutty Redmelons to entertain and divert ????
Deep. Deep and dark. So write your own…. 🙁 or 🙂 diversion(s) – as the spirit moves!
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November 24, 2018 8:38am
Southern Raider

So Ashburton has the lowest unemployment rate in NZ again which raises a few questions
– what are the 1.2% who still can’t get a job there doing if there is 500 vacancies and who are these people?
– what is different about this successful rural town versus the rural towns in Northland that are at the opposite end of the scale?
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November 24, 2018 8:39am
- DigNap15
  
  Some very good questions you raise.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:46am
- kowtow
  
  How many are there on the “sickness” benefit ?
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:48am
  - Southern Raider
    
    There is 30,000 people in Ashburton so 360 unemployed. Half maybe transitioning between jobs which is okay. I would suggest the other half haven’t worked for at least 10 years
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:54am
    - MCos
      
      No way is there thirty thousand people in Ashburton.
      There’d be twenty thousand including the cemetery.
      Rest homes & retirement villages all over the place!
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:49am
      - Southern Raider
        
        Go to Google. I went off what a recruiter said on the radio last week and I just checked. 21000 in the urban area and 34000 in total in what is considered the territory of Ashburton
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:14pm
- SGA
  
  It is possible that with a figure like 1.2% that a good number, but probably not all granted, may have genuine issues (e.g., intellectual disabilities, mental health issues, or severe physical/health problems). These people do exist. 1 in 100? Don’t know, but I imagine it would be close? Add in Southern Raiders “transition” people to the mix as well.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:59am
  - Southern Raider
    
    But don’t those types of people get counted outside of unemployment figures as they are on other benefits?
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:04am
    - SGA
      
      Possibly – not sure. Put it this way, as an example, 2% of the population has an IQ less than 70.
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:12am
    - Northland Wahine
      
      No they don’t Southern Raider. Even those severe permanent disabilities, may be to work part time.
      
      It’s been my experience as a case manager who worked with clients with medical certificates, it’s easier to find 20 plus hrs work for a mentally disabled person who is eager to work, as opposed to fully able person who doesn’t want to work.
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:13am
      - artemisia
        
        The trick will be to find an employer willing to take on and train up a person who would very obviously rather be on the couch.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:32am
- freethinker
  
  Northland rural towns are infested by sun bronzed drongo,s who have no intention of contributing to society other than crime. S Island rural towns are inhabited by pale skinned intelligent realists who want to remain self sufficient .
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:37pm
MrTips

Something tells me Tim Murphy had fun writing this. It might explain, at least partially, why Slater has been AWOL from his blog lately. It doesn’t look good for him or Graham thus far.

And with Brian Henry involved, Winston won’t want it getting too close to him either.
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November 24, 2018 8:40am
- backster
  
  Judge Palmer eh.
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:55am
- peterwn
  
  Cam also has the Bloomfield case on the go and things may not be looking too pretty for him there. He posted on this after the first hearing day and was ordered by the judge to take that down (not a good start). There has been utter silence since – both on Whaleoil and MSM. And his health seems fragile. It has been left to ‘Spanish Bride’ to do the latest hit piece on Simon Bridges (possibly ghost written by Simon Lusk). Gist of this piece is Nat MP Simon O’Connor (Simon Bridge’s brother in law) is considering having a tilt at Auckland’s Mayorality, this being taken as an indication from Simon O’C that he does not expect the Nats to win in 2020. Normally I would have expected Whaleoil to have applauded any move for a Nat MP to have a tilt at the Auckland Mayoralty rather than cast it in the light that the MP is considering jumping ship because he has no confidence in a 2020 Nat victory.
  As with Brian Henry, the cases involving Cam and Winston are quite separate. If there was a potential conflict, Brian would have declined to represent Winston in the superannuation leak matter. Brian was AFAIK engaged by Cam for the ‘health professionals’ case well before the superannuation matter arose. As for the ‘health professionals’ case whether Whaleoil received payments for running the items critical of the ‘health professionals’ is probably a key matter since this would undermine defences to the alleged defamations.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:17am
  - Viking2
    
    Hope he has got rid of any assets he might have had.
    No point in sueing someone who has no money.
    
    Remember back a ways he was a staunch defender of that fellow Watson and his mate.They managed to screw plenty of people. Now Watson is on the other end of action with Glen sueing his arse off and good job.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:00am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Another win for New Zealand’s most famous journalist!
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:49am
  - Morrissey
    
    One hater of journalism has downticked this.
    
    Begone, Nazi!
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:03am
    - peterwn
      
      So has 11 others at 1047 .
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:47am
    - Tall Man
      
      Begone silly man.
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:10am
- gump
  
  I’ve never understood why Whaleoil is so determined to march his family into bankruptcy … repeatedly.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:55am
  - peterwn
    
    As long as assets are held by another family member or a trust they are generally safe. If someone gets rid of assets within two and five year ‘bright lines’ they can be regarded as still belonging to that person. So you cannot get of assets then defame someone soon after. Similarly the trust needs to be properly run to avoid it being busted.
    Also just make sure any expected bequests are paid ‘in trust’ so the Official Assignee cannot grab them.
    So it may not matter too much if a high risk blogger is bankrupted. Also AFAIK bankrupts do not have freedom of expression limited.
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:00am
    - gump
      
      The legal expenses, massive amounts of time, mental stress, and aggravation of defending a defamation action aren’t trivial.
      
      I can’t imagine that defending the case is doing much good for Whaleoil or his family.
      
      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
      
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      November 24, 2018 3:51pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Comprehension has never been strong on the left has it?
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:10am
    - gump
      
      I literally do not comprehend why Whaleoil is determined to march his family into bankruptcy … repeatedly.
      
      It’s idiotic and self-destructive.
      
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      November 24, 2018 3:45pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I’m not so sure he will lose that case against the Health Troughers.
  He certainly embarrassed them but defaming them?
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:05pm
KeaRea

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html

Re write the Bible for us please don’t you know St Paul actually included trigger warnings for the Pharisees. Also don’t you dare pursue English translations of the Talmud or Kabbalah.

Related

https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/swedens-push-to-get-rid-of-cash-has-some-saying-not-so-fast

Sweden is run by a handful of families. If there is one way to ensure the viability of china style social credit scores, its a cashless society run on literal social/financial credit. Imagine if some goatee could cut off your money because you didn’t buy the kosher Bible? Or you didn’t take your kid to trannie class. Or you didn’t engage in the govt mabdated cuckolding.

Why are Swedes the way they are? They love it. Strange people.

Anyhow meanwhile in Italy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6414295/Bulldozers-demolish-Casamonica-Mafia-clans-illegal-villas-Rome.html

There will be no gypsy Romani manors in Rome.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/world/middleeast/israel-us-ashkelon-hacker.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Oh look, yet another case in a litany where it turns out all the anti semitism was a hoax perpetrated by a kosher bible demander. Never believe any accusation of non muslim originated western anti semitism.

https://mobile.wnd.com/2018/11/mom-who-objected-to-gay-pride-event-barred-from-school/?cat_orig=education

Perhaps apt after PAPA. That’s the start of the end. Pride is an inversion for supremacy and child grooming. But all those wonderful minorities have backwards views and primitive preferences for their expression. Watching two unstoppable forces collide is going to be fun.
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November 24, 2018 8:54am
kowtow

Who’da thunk it.

“When unlicensed immigration consultant Xun “Sunny” Wang was jailed in 2015 for masterminding the biggest immigration fraud in Canadian history, it wasn’t just Wang who would end up paying the price.

Hundreds of his Chinese clients were caught up in the scandal when their passports were seized in raids on Wang’s home and offices.”

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/society/article/2159930/anatomy-scam-how-rich-chinese-gamed-canadian-immigration
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November 24, 2018 8:58am
Harkman

Sadly I’ve got some bad news for you (all). Cindy is still the PM and going by what I saw in both the Black Friday sales at Paknsave & Warehouse in the Labour stronghold of East Chch yesterday, there’s an endless supply of people (mainly white trash) that will come out and vote for them. The sales in these stores was rubbish too, most underwhelming but the ferrals they were a spending.
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November 24, 2018 9:03am
- Harkman
  
  Have I got some good news or what? Last night I was waiting in line to buy that Gary Oldman Churchill move and some gorgeous Mediterranean-looking, 1/4 black looking, French chick aged 27-34 standing next to me in line asked me, “You look famous?” That made my week, month, year.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:10am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Yeah well, Charles Manson and Ted Bundy are Famous… ?
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:19am
    - Longknives
      
      Careful JibberJabber! – Notsofast will be on here soon telling us that Ted Bundy was also framed by Police…
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:33am
      - Harkman
        
        ??from his prison cell.
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:16am
      - lifesgood
        
        Notsofast aka Mark Lundy.
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:44am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Life” 🙂
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:11am
    - Harkman
      
      Sadly yes ?
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:30am
  - softail 1450
    
    Harkman , what did her guide dog think? LOL.?
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:12am
    - Harkman
      
      ? you cheeky bugger ? I did joke that I was a movie star, she claimed she didn’t watch movies, and dropped the boyfriend line. I told her not to hitch hike around the country.
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:22am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  So true. Nobody can win against Cindy for next 8 years.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:47am
  - septic skeptic
    
    I reckon Twyford, Galloway, Curran, Whaitiri, Clarke, Hipkins, Mahuta, Jackson and Davis will manage to overturn Cindy’s lifeboat fairly soon.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    What a low opinion you must have of the people of New Zealand.
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:12am
  - Jazzby
    
    You are assuming that she’ll stay the course for the next 8 years: she won’t. To me, she appears increasingly fragile, both physically and mentally; I don’t give much for her staying power, even if she wants to hang around for that long. Remember, she’s had a dream ride so far, with all the media fawning over her; but now the tide is turning. She can only go so far with the tailwind of “hope and kindness”, before the public start to get bored with the repetitive sloganising.
    The nest egg of cash will inevitably be spent, and then times will get truly tough. Party over.
    
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    November 24, 2018 12:43pm
    - Komata
      
      Jazzby
      
      At which point the de facto will leave ( No money, no fame), and cindy will be able to live the feminists dream; a child of her own, no male anywhere in sight, a house in a rich area (despite being a communist and supposedly ‘despising’ such things), and, because she is a former PM, apparently an income for life.
      
      What more could she want?
      
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      November 24, 2018 1:38pm
    - artemisia
      
      Ms Ardern is looking tired. Not surprising in the circs but a tough and relentless job and not enough quality sleep takes its toll.
      
      Labour can’t afford to let her step down, but Mr Peters could take over for a while if pressed. Maybe a long while.
      
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      November 24, 2018 1:45pm
duggledog

Southern Raider

You ought to know there are some real dog ferals in Ashburton. Really bad ones.

Two years max of welfare assistance over one’s natural life. I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was given the pen
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November 24, 2018 9:21am
- Southern Raider
  
  Same with most NZ towns and villages where two or three feral families keep WINZ and Police busy
  
  Except up north where it’s only two or three families that don’t keep WINZ or Police busy
  
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  November 24, 2018 2:19pm
Morrissey

Deadbeat Dads
No. 8: FRED TRUMP

lowlife n. 1. A person who would stoop lower than you in morality; 2. a person not above lying, cheating, stealing, or insulting the handicapped; 3. a person who has not evolved past the level of primordial ooze in the scheme of things; 4. an opportunist who feels no guilt over doing rotten or heinous things.

On Memorial Day 1927, brawls erupted in New York led by sympathisers of the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. In the fascist brawl, which took place in the Bronx, two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists. In Queens, 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighbourhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested.

One of those arrested was Fred Trump of 175-24 Devonshire Road in Jamaica.
This is Donald Trump’s father. Trump had a brother named Fred, but he wasn’t born until more than a decade later. The Fred Trump at Devonshire Road was the Fred C. Trump who lived there with his mother, according to the 1930 Census.

The predication for the Klan to march, according to a flier passed around Jamaica beforehand, was that “Native-born Protestant Americans” were being “assaulted by Roman Catholic police of New York City.” “Liberty and Democracy have been trampled upon,” it continued, “when native-born Protestant Americans dare to organise to protect one flag, the American flag; one school, the public school; and one language, the English language.”
It’s not clear from the context what role Fred Trump played in the brawl. The news article simply notes that seven men were arrested in the “near-riot of the parade,” all of whom were represented by the same lawyers. Update: A contemporaneous article from the Daily Star notes that Trump was detained “on a charge of refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so.”

When news of the old report surfaced last year, Donald Trump vehemently denied his father’s arrest. “He was never arrested. He has nothing to do with this. This never happened. This is nonsense and it never happened,” he said to the Daily Mail. “This never happened. Never took place. He was never arrested, never convicted, never even charged. It’s a completely false, ridiculous story. He was never there! It never happened. Never took place.
…..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-latest-donald-trump-father-fred-arrested-ku-klux-klan-kkk-rally-riot-queens-new-york-a7891701.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-taxes-the-5-biggest-ways-fred-trump-made-donald-rich-new-york-times/

Catch up with all the Deadbeat Dads….
1 Sir John Key, 2 Bill “Double Dipper” English; 3 Sir Douglas Graham; 4 John Banks; 5 David Cameron; 6 Kingsley Amis; 7 John Slater

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”—Matt. 7:16
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November 24, 2018 9:31am
- JibberJabber
  
  It`s fucking hilarious how Trump is inside the head of every fucking Lib Tard out there.
  None of ya can stop thinking/talking about him.
  Take a hint from Oscar, “The only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about.”
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:44am
  - Morrissey
    
    Idiot. Do you SUPPORT this madman?
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:47am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      A bit early to be frothing at the mouth don’t you think old boy?
      
      I’m guessing you didn’t water down your KoolAid sufficiently well.
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:51am
      - Morrissey
        
        I drink Pimms.
        
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        November 24, 2018 9:57am
    - JibberJabber
      
      LoL, Morristard you cocksmoker, I give ~~less~~ fewer fucks about Trump than you, you turned a blind eye when your messiah Barry ordered Drone strikes anything that moved, Trump has a long way to go before he reaches Obamas` kill ratio, even without a Nobel peace prize.
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:04am
- Morrissey
  
  Five dicks who support Italian Fascism—at least they would have if they’d been alive in 1927—and the Klan have downticked this.
  
  Lowlife indeed.
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:46am
- Keeping Stock
  
  You’re a fine one to be quoting Bible verses Mr High-and-Mighty Morrissey. Are you familiar with this one?
  
  “It’s easy to see a smudge on your neighbor’s face and be oblivious to the ugly sneer on your own. Do you have the nerve to say, ‘Let me wash your face for you,’ when your own face is distorted by contempt? It’s this I-know-better-than-you mentality again, playing a holier-than-thou part instead of just living your own part. Wipe that ugly sneer off your own face and you might be fit to offer a washcloth to your neighbor.
  
  Luke 6:42 (The Message)
  
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  November 24, 2018 9:49am
  - Morrissey
    
    I’m not perfect, Stocky. But to get back to the point of discussion: surely you are concerned that someone so deeply imbued in violence and extreme racism is the President of the U.S.
    
    Surely you are?
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:56am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      None of us is perfect Morrissey. We all come with baggage. Not all of us however choose to write vast tomes about the frailties of others.
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:14am
    - Komata
      
      Morressey
      
      Deflecting again I see.
      
      Out of interest, why are YOU so ‘deeply imbued with violence’ and obsessed with ‘extreme racism’ that you feel compelled to present it to us ad nuseum and ad infinitum, and indulge in similar ‘violence’, albeit in verbal form, when you are challenged?
      
      Does it give you a buzz? A power trip, or..?
      
      BTW: You do realise I trust, that you are in imminent danger of becoming like Hugh P, and being ‘scrolled’ by the readership..?
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:26am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Hillary is not President of the USA…
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:40am
marcmywords

This is a bit of fun https://www.politicalcompass.org/test/en
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November 24, 2018 9:34am
- stephieboy
  
  Full of loaded and rhetorical questions e.g
  
  “I’d always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.”?
  
  Nazi invasion of Poland?
  
  Carry on ..?
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:12am
  - marcmywords
    
    Where did you sit? I don’t think it’s perfect but it’s not specifically politically motivated so seems semi accurate. I’m 1.63 right and -0.82 Lib/Auth
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:21am
    - Dave Mann
      
      I’m 0.63 Right and – 1.85 Libertarian, so not quite as Right wing economically as you but a bit more Libertarian. The margins of our difference are quite small though and I would imagine the readings for people like Adern would be through the roof on both the Left and Authoritarian scales!
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:39am
      - Tall Man
        
        Economic Left/Right: -3.0
        Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05
        
        Unfortunately, some of the questions are slightly irrational.
        
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        November 24, 2018 12:36pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        Thanks for that Tall Man.
        
        I’m not being unkind…. but that’s about where the National Party fits. Maybe you should pitch for leader??? 😀
        
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        November 24, 2018 5:22pm
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy ,,,baaah ,baaaah ,baaaaaaah,
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:15am
- Dave Mann
  
  Thanks for the link. It was really interesting. I’m not surprised to find that by their scale I’m slightly right wing economically and more so a libertarian rather than an authoritarian.
  
  I’m not sure how reliable these online questionnaires are (one of them put me as a NZF supporter before the last election!) but I found this one sat well with me and the explanatory blurb is really spot on.
  
  I’m going to print out my results chart and make a little Velcro badge to stick on during family discussions where I’m often characterised as a raving right-wing lunatic. Mind you, it won’t do much good as, sadly, many of them are raving authoritarian lefties… 😀 😀 😀
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    “I’m” slightly” right wing …”
    
    ???
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:30am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      And I am supposedly Authoritarian Left?? Ah, well I suppose Stalin had some good points…
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:49am
      - marcmywords
        
        Haha well that probably makes you an NZ Firster then
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:20am
    - Tall Man
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl.
      
      Come on steffy, just tell the truth, you’ll feel better.
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      
      Curran, Pence< Sroubek, Meka the masher…
      
      Just to point you in the right direction.
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:15am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Hey mate, you and I clashed up thread about Simon (spelled correctly) Bridges.
        
        Would you do the questionnaire and honestly report your result please? It would be really interesting!
        
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        November 24, 2018 11:23am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh goodness, I’m still a Leftie
  
  Economic Left/Right -3.25
  Social Lib/ Authoritarian -2.26
  
  (as I was on the The Guardian Quiz)
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2018/nov/21/how-populist-are-you-quiz
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:23pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, did they have relevant questions on your Islamaphobia and Climate Change Denial that may have seriously skewed your result?
    
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    November 24, 2018 12:34pm
    - Tall Man
      
      How about moronic identifiers, sycophantic tendency to adore liars?
      
      You missed those out obviously because
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      November 24, 2018 12:40pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @stephieboy
      
      Produce evidence that I am Islamaphobic.
      
      Remember it is you that had so little regard for the privacy and cultural beliefs of Moslem women that you splashed details about the day some moslem females were at a shopping mall and then made mention in this public forum about the size and shape of their breasts.
      
      Everyone in the Auckland Moslem community probably knows who you were talking about.
      
      Remember it was you that posted up a link to an image of a woman’s vagina on KB and to the side of the main image I saw a copulating couple.
      
      Why did you do that?
      
      I assume this blog is being read by folks of all religious faiths… I endeavour not to offend anyone for their genuinely held beliefs.
      
      I do condemn folks who are aggressive to others.
      
      You mistake my Pacifist beliefs for religious bigotry.
      
      I suggest you stop looking at people on racial and religious grounds only and start realising that we are are all just humans.
      
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      November 24, 2018 12:50pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, evidence? your fairly regular updates regarding Muslim and African crime watch from Melbourne.
        
        “Remember it is you that had so little regard for the privacy and cultural beliefs of Moslem women that you splashed details about the day some moslem females were at a shopping mall and then made mention in this public forum about the size and shape of their breasts.”
        
        It was a comment that related to the fact that they were interacting very well into our society adopting the same fashions and norms as their younger NZ peers.
        
        “Small but ample breasts ” was merely just an incidental remark t. No more.
        
        The fact that most Muslims in Auckland are integrating and adjusting well to our way of life does not go well on KB with posters like you!
        
        “Remember it was you that posted up a link to an image of a woman’s vagina on KB and to the side of the main image I saw a copulating couple.”
        
        ???
        
        Date etc ??
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:04pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @stephie boy
        
        Your comment about “small, but ample breasts”. I think this needs further teasing out.
        
        Please define “small”
        Please define “ample”
        
        Small as in relation to what?
        Ample as in relation to what?
        
        The mind fucking boggles.
        
        For the record, a 34 B for me has always been a sort of “that’s about right” in terms of breasts…. At least that is quantifiable, measurable, and reasonably objective.
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:22pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephieboy says “date etc”
        22/01/2017
        
        It’s all recorded in the Strike list in the Comments Policy section
        So stop denying it you liar.
        What a Dirty little man you are.
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:27pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        1. If you take my mentioning earlier this week of a verdict of manslaughter against the man who killed a NZ educated surgeon as evidence of Islamaphobia, then you are confusing NZ news with your own prejudiced take on issues.
        2. I notice you have never called our Host an Islamaphobe… although he has run an entire post on recent terrorist events in Melbourne.
        3. As I have pointed out Melbourne is very close to many NZers… I can get to Melbourne in about 5 hours from Gizzy… I can’t get to most of the South Island or parts of the NI in that time.
        4. Our NZ Security Chiefs have identified various islamic groups as threats to our Nation —- are they Islamaphobes?
        5. If you knew anything about Islam and practising Moslems, then you would know they have very strict rules governing their body parts. You have no right to mention size or shape of breasts or genitalia about private citizens in a public forum.
        6. Have you forgotten the date you posted a link to an image of Ms Trump’s vagina?
        I believe DPF has removed your post.
        Why don’t you check with him when it was deleted?
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:33pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Anyway stephieboy,
        The date must have been before 15th Feb 2018.
        For here is one of your posts admitting that you had placed a link to a “soft core” shot of Ivanka Trump’s vagina on Kiwiblog.
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/general_debate_15_february_2018.html#comment-2139051
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:42pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Maggy
        The link to the hard core pictures of Ivanka Trump is on the Strike list. 22/01/17
        He’s previously linked to nude pictures of Melania Trump too.
        There’s something mentally wrong with him.
        
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        November 24, 2018 1:47pm
      - realityczech
        
        “and then made mention in this public forum about the size and shape of their breasts.”
        
        If you read the actual comment you will see he was talking about their childrens breasts.
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:52pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        A filthy little perv who not only leers at pubescent girls but seems to have an underwear pre-occupation. Honestly Maggy, I don’t know why you bother to engage with the revolting little scrote. It’s only a matter of time before he stops just perving and then does something more. He should be locked up right now to protect the public.
        
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        November 24, 2018 2:58pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @reality czech
        
        yes, you are correct.. he was describing the daughters’ breasts.
        
        And it wasn’t an”incidental remark”
        for stephieboy then goes on to state:
        ” how very attractive and sensuous they would be to most males including Islamaphobes like you !”
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/12/general_debate_3_december_2015.html/comment-page-3#comment-1628463
        
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        November 24, 2018 3:09pm
- Northland Wahine
  
  Your Political Compass
  Economic Left/Right: -5.0
  Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59
  
  Laughs… should I be afraid?
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:12pm
- Jules99
  
  Economic Left/Right: 0.63
  Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
  
  I had a dig around the NZ section and noticed that there doesn’t seem to be much on offer to libertarians in this country. You would have thought there would be. Maybe libertarians don’t do politics.
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:27pm
Ross12

How long before our PM jumps on this bandwagon?
Merkel is rapidly losing the plot. Give up sovereignty to who? Her dream new world government?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/angela-merkel-in-this-day-and-age-states-must-be-ready-to-give-up-sovereignty-nationalist-countries-are-not-patriotic/
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November 24, 2018 9:51am
- Komata
  
  Ross
  
  I would have thought that, because of her unrecanted (but never publicised) personal political views, the ‘Commie chick from Noo Zealand’ was already ON said bandwagin; she’s just helping the country she curently ‘controls’ to get on as well.
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:17am
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    Fair point Komata.
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:23am
- Jules99
  
  Same talking points as Macron – I think the globalist deep state are panicking and trying to push through their agenda before people see the US thriving under its nationalist programme led by Trump.
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:31pm
stephieboy

Yesterday many rabid righters displayed abject and staggering ignorance in respect of The Arab Revol. How intelligence officer TE Lawrence was able to organise disparate Arab tribes and help overthrow the Ottoman Empire a Key German ally,

The Economist explains

The Arab Revolt

“AGAINST the vast, terrible tableau of the first world war it was just a detail. Far from the fields of France, the main theatre of battle, a few hundred Bedouin operated behind enemy lines, assisting the British campaign against the Ottoman empire. T.E. Lawrence, the British intelligence officer who orchestrated their attacks on Ottoman supply lines, called them “a sideshow of a sideshow”. Yet a century on, the Arab Revolt continues to capture imaginations. This year alone it has inspired a slew of docudramas, books and exhibitions, and even an archaeological-style desert dig for souvenirs. Jordan is marking the centenary with a national holiday. A new play, “Lawrence after Arabia”, is attracting packed houses in London; another is in production. To its contemporary admirers, history’s last cavalry charges through the dunes offered heroic, romantic relief from four years of global industrialised killing. Their cause, of Arab liberation from Turkish oppression, gave a momentary sense of moral clarity to a war-torn world which seemed to have lost its way. To its detractors, Britain’s machinations ruptured centuries of Middle Eastern stability under Ottoman rule, plunging the region into a chaos from which it has yet to emerge. …”

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2016/06/03/the-arab-revolt
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November 24, 2018 10:06am
- JibberJabber
  
  Are you talking about T E or D H this time, a frantic night googling to try and recover from your embarrassing faux pas yesterday?
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:15am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Indeed
    It’s hardly a surprise that Pervertboy made an undoubted Freudian slip when he referred to erotic novelist DH Lawrence.
    What’s on a creeps mind eh.
    Stephieboy- PERVERT #1
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:18am
    - stephieboy
      
      https://qz.com/1297561/the-dazzling-us-unemployment-rate-is-blinding-americans-to-a-much-darker-reality/
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:28am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hey, you’re white, a pervy creep and go to Church?
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10335782
        
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        November 24, 2018 10:32am
  - Longknives
    
    DH Lawrence wrote Lady Chatterley’s Lover didn’t he?
    
    The saucy tale of a woman who, physically unsatisfied by her disabled husband, heads to St Luke’s Mall looking for Sexual thrills..
    (I think that’s how it went?)
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:19am
    - Tall Man
      
      Pretty sure the D H Lawrence ref was a Freudian slip with steffy identifying with the unsatisfied woman. Pretty much confirms my belief that steffy is a girl.
      
      Ardern is a liar though 🙂
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    JibberJabber, the first never, never ever to make a typo error or mistake of any kind?
    
    Longknives, you too!
    
    However, we are agreed that an Arab Revolt did occur and that middle east Arabs played a decisive role in bringing down the Ottoman Empire
    
    Yes ?
    
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    November 24, 2018 10:22am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Explaining is losing…
      
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      November 24, 2018 10:43am
    - Tall Man
      
      Yeah nah…grammar not your strong point is it?
      
      I want to meet the “first never”. Is that an elf or another imaginary Ardern friend?
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      November 24, 2018 11:31am
- secondcumming
  
  BREAKING NEWS
  
  *stephieboy* sets new record for someone holding their breath under water…..
  8 1/2 minutes!
  
  When spotted swimming in the public pools at St Lukes yesterday, a little girl shouted, “That’s him!!”
  
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  November 24, 2018 10:34am
  - dubya
    
    Now now, everyone has a sexual emergency every now and then.
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:18am
- Tall Man
  
  Ha ha ha..you’re a funny girl. I bet you were the life of the party at camp molestation.
  
  Isn’t cut and paste awesome for a poorly educated intern like yourself.
  
  Did you manage to do it all by yourself or did you have use “phone a friend” for the big words.
  
  steffy is a girl
  
  Ardern is a liar
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:17am
- Twinkletoes
  
  What you seem to have missed Stevie boy is that it was the Ottoman Empire that voluntarily allied with Germany and Austria and declared war on the British/French. The ‘tired old man of Europe’ was broke, in tremendous debt and years of drought had brought great famine and disease.
  
  So tell us again who plunged the region into chaos – if they had stayed out of it perhaps there would be a peace of a sorts in the M.E. but do not blame anyone but those were at fault, the Ottomans. How long are the muslims going to play victims when they were the ones who poked the fire?
  
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  November 24, 2018 2:32pm
Lee C

Good read by John Roughan about Pike River and Little
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12164958
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November 24, 2018 10:40am
- sooty
  
  I have seen Angry at a union meeting and he was all angry, shouty!
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:46am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Roughan is spot on with these two paragraphs:
  
  We are spending $36m on a project that will not even reach the mine proper, where the 29 men were most likely working when it exploded. We are told we are spending this money for “the families” but we only ever see or hear from three of the bereaved, Anna Osborne, Sonya Rockhouse and Bernie Monk.
  
  They were the only three we could see on TV around Little when he made his announcement last week. They were the only three that were filmed laying wreaths on the eighth anniversary of the disaster this week. Where are the rest? One or two have made it known they would like their loved ones left in peace. All but three have probably come to terms with grief, as you do.
  
  Who will be the first member of the news media to address the elephant in the room; is re-entry to the drift favoured by a majority of the survivors of the Pike River miners?
  
  As Roughan says, three of the bereaved are very vocal and outspoken; where does that leave the other 26 families?
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:06pm
Biscuit

Italy vs the All Blacks tomorrow a.m..
To save yourselves waiting, I give you Big Bruv’s review of the game here and now:

• The All Blacks were thugs
• The All Blacks were cheats
• The ref ignored 7258265682385 instances of All Blacks unsportsmanlike behaviour
• The All Blacks’ third, fifth and ninth tries were all scored from offside play
• —, —, — and — (enter names of any starting All Blacks player at random) are over-rated
• The All Blacks won’t win the 2019 Rugby World Cup
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November 24, 2018 10:43am
- Tall Man
  
  World rugby controlled the refs and made them pro All Black….
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:32am
Fletch

Obama, in an interview, basically saying that as he worked his way up, he was better than anybody else he worked with. The people around him were always palookas no matter what job he was doing.

https://twitter.com/Jenn198523/status/1065186488554405888/video/1
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November 24, 2018 10:56am
- Tall Man
  
  Humble guy then?
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:13pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, bs twitters from obvious Trump toadies eg this priceless piece of nonsense,
  
  Nan
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  @TruthPreserver
  Nov 21
  More
  It was Obama’s Obamacare that caused insurance companies to do what they did. It was unsustainable.
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:46pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I know it breaches the rules but you really are an idiot.
    
    Your support for poor quality politicians would normally be an embarrassment but you are so stupid you don’t even see it.
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 24, 2018 1:01pm
- Jules99
  
  Wow, he might regret that kind of arrogance. Insult world leaders and they might not be that interested in propping up your ‘legacy’ any more.
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:43pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I thought that.
    
    Mouthy black man is what the other members of the G20 would have been thinking although black man may have been too long and a shorter word may have crossed their frontal cortex I suspect
    
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    November 24, 2018 2:36pm
Fletch

Twitford says a new bill will allow the govt to compulsorily “acquire” privately owned land.

The HUDA will have broad powers, including being able to ignore existing council designations, amend or write its own by-laws and grant its own resource consent, and councils will have no veto power.

“It’s going to be a tooled-up agency that can cut through the red tape.”

The HUDA will also have the power of forced acquisition, were private land owners can be can be forced to sell to make way for a development, though the minister says the powers are just “in the back pocket”.

“I don’t think it’s likely at all that someone’s private property or their house will be acquired for one of these projects.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/11/phil-twyford-unveils-new-housing-and-urban-development-authority.html

Yeh, right. Just in case, ey?
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November 24, 2018 11:00am
- Longknives
  
  Over at The Standard they have been making noises for a while about the possibility of confiscating NZ Farmer’s lands and giving them to Maori. (Inspired by the ‘Great happenings’ in South Africa recently)
  Be very afraid..
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:13am
  - Harkman
    
    Can we have the blankets, muskets and tattooed heads back?
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:26am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Yeah nah, we`ve got enough Gorse plantations already thanks.
    
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    November 24, 2018 11:46am
- dubya
  
  Hey, Twyford. How about your government reduce regulation and make it attractive for private land owners to develop it, if they want to?
  
  Yeah, right.
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:21am
softail 1450

Twitford is setting up a new quango to oversee Kiwi build ,housing Corp ,etc etc .
Who will be on the board?
Councils,
Central government,
and you guessed it ,
IWI , no mention of whitey ,Chingy,Pacifica or any other group of NZrs FFS.
This Cabal are giving OUR country over to the chosen ones and only a small percentage of them will even benefit….
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November 24, 2018 11:24am
- Jazzby
  
  The trouble is that National, under John Key, did absolutely nothing to rectify this drift towards racial separatism; indeed, he seemed to encourage it, through his dalliance with the Maori Party.
  I know that it’s not PC to address the outstanding issue of Maori political privilege in this country, but I would like to remind National of the stunningly positive effect that Don Brash’s “Orewa speech” had on National’s ratings. I see no evidence that the general public are any more accepting of the idea of two classes of citizenship now, than they were then.
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:51pm
  - KevOB
    
    National did a great deal for Maori relations. They recognised the Maori Elders, gave them political standing and a voice. They seemed to have vanished.
    
    Money in the tribal hands is going to be a new source of power and potential for strife. Now we see activists: are we to see warriors? Is a water war in the making?
    
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    November 24, 2018 3:01pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*….

Is Jack Tame gay?

[asking for my mother-in-law]
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November 24, 2018 11:26am
- Harkman
  
  You can bet the house he’s gay. He makes Louie Spence look straight.
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:28am
- greybeard
  
  He admitted it to Larry Williams a couple of days ago on “The Huddle”.
  
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  November 24, 2018 11:57am
- lifesgood
  
  Currently in Oz. Everyone here is surprised when I say Cindy is a stupid bimbo and a complete embarrassment to NZ. They say their media tells them she is wonderful and we are all thrilled to bits with her. I put them straight. Doing my bit.
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:06pm
softail 1450

S C, he’s the gayest straight man I have ever known. The king of effeminate beta males on NZ television.
The sight of him cuddling his coffee cup is enough to send me to the remote for the not much better Drunken Garner show.
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November 24, 2018 11:32am
- secondcumming
  
  It’s just that my mother in-law popped a while ago to drop us off pies and donuts for lunch.
  
  She said she was listening to him on the car radio talking to some modi dude “…..praising his tight trim body.”
  
  FFS!!
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:04pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Well he is bestie of that obnoxious Matty McLean. I don’t mind people being gay but why do they have to talk like Matty McLean? What makes a gay man talk funny?
    
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    November 24, 2018 1:09pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Tight underpants, very tight underpants.
      
      Underpants that are seriousily too small that squeeze their nuts so tightly that it fucks their circulation over.
      
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      November 24, 2018 2:39pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I gave up watching breakfast TV at the beginning of last year when Garner was announced as the replacement for Paul Henry, and when Tame and Hilary Barry teamed up on TVNZ.
  
  Almost two years on, I have no reason to ever want to revisit that decision. Who needs that kind of negativity in the morning?
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:08pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Negativity?
    
    Stupidity, idiocy, childish and that’s just the concept. Don’t watch mainstream TV anymore, don’t listen to talkback anymore just Larry Williams if I happen to be driving at that time.
    
    Life is definitely better.
    
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    November 24, 2018 12:16pm
  - Jules99
    
    I listen to Scott Adams (Dilbert author) every morning – interesting and not stressful. I don’t always agree with him, but he responds well to criticism. Follow him on Twitter if you are interested.
    
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    November 24, 2018 1:46pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      His talks on Periscope (via Twitter) are good too.
      He has an interesting take on how persuasion works
      
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      November 24, 2018 1:49pm
      - Jules99
        
        Yep, those are the ones – very interesting.
        
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        November 24, 2018 5:50pm
KeaRea

Anyone here remember Creed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5e3WKbesEw

I remember when they almost overnight went from a mainstream lauded group to doubleplusuncool. Looking back it’s really interesting to see how that was orchestrated, and by whom, and by what means.

They’re undergoing somewhat of a revival if not in re-forming, in terms of a re-appraisal of their music.

The sudden fashion switch on them was always related to their identity and their thematics, not their musicality. I play two instruments to teacher level. And I loved it when **gs would tell me at High School and College that Creed were doubleplusuncool because they used a basic ABAB chord prog.

Genres don’t rise and fall at random.

It never pays to write songs about God or standing against degenerate Faceless Men, or about sacrificing for one’s conventional married nuclear family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-fyNgHdmLI

These guys had a cultural barometer. They knew.

Anyway, their most unapologetic song was “What If” – here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TecYs5J4jdw

So it’s perhaps fitting that music is going to make a come-back as people are slowly shaking themselves and coming to realise some truths all across the United States and Europe.

The post-war semitic world order is coming to a close. It’s unclear what will replace it. I’m putting my hat on assertive Christian nationalism.

Anyone in Italia who insults the national heritage of Italy, now, as occurs so casually all across the West, risks their life. It’s just beautiful. Want to do Piss-Christ? Be deported, or be shot like the dog you are.

That moment is coming to all of Europe. It will seem imperceptible. Then it will happen all of a sudden. And everyone who regarded people like me with a clear understanding of historical fundamentals and the theses of Lee Kwan Yu is going to be vindicated.

Every attempt to erect a replacement for the Greco-Roman legacy and Christianity, in the end, is going to fail. It took Spain 500 years to shed themselves of the musloids, but they got every single one out and became the strongest empire in the world for 200 years. Wicca won’t don’t it. Pagan Larping won’t do it. Jordan Peterson type new-age cult pseudo Christian theosophy won’t do it.

It’s interesting to see how the most cutting edge economists like Steve Keen, questioning the entire basis of economic theory (exchange) finding economic insight in cultural analyses.

What does the revival of Creed mean?

What if it means people are starting to shed themselves of worthless myths peddled by charlatans? What does it mean? I don’t know. I’m just an uneducated basement dweller and undesirable. But ‘what if’ it means something?

Lol and none of this is ‘dark’ in any way shape or form. It’s happy and carefree – just rendered dark by the people who project.

Anyway – Creed. They were a good band then. They’re good now. And the bandwagoners who said otherwise where shit-tier NPC”s who don’t know anything about music.
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November 24, 2018 11:35am
Manolo

Our resident Muslim is outraged beyond belief:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/rugby-union/all-blacks-to-wear-rainbow-laces-against-italy/ar-BBQ1Gwd

The All Blacks will wear rainbow laces in their boots for this weekend’s test against Italy on Sunday to show support for Gareth Thomas, after the former Wales captain was the victim of an anti-gay attack.
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November 24, 2018 11:46am
- kowtow
  
  More pointless virtue signalling.
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:01pm
  - Longknives
    
    Don’t they already have ‘Rainbow’ patterns on their stretchy jerseys?
    
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    November 24, 2018 2:49pm
- Tall Man
  
  Not in Ritchie’s time.
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:18pm
lifesgood

Currently in Oz. Everyone here is surprised when I say Cindy is a stupid bimbo and a complete embarrassment to NZ. They say their media tells them she is wonderful and we are all thrilled to bits with her. I put them straight. Doing my bit.
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November 24, 2018 11:48am
- kowtow
  
  Abbott was relatively popular in Oz , but you’d never have thought that judging from their media .
  
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  November 24, 2018 12:02pm
  - Harriet
    
    He was very popular and for the most part he still is. He’s currently the minister or an envoy or something for aboriginals, out meeting them in remote places to better their lives, he’s reporting back to Morrison.
    Bettering aboriginals lives won’t ever happen until aboriginals live in bigger towns, as Australia is a barren continent and services cannot be provided on a practical level.
    
    Flying doctors dispensing medicines and vaccines while doing yearly check ups on aboriginals in remote places in the 1960’s is far different to providing round the clock mental healthcare to alcoholics, drug addicts, the mentally ill, violent offenders including rapists, and other dysfunctional aboriginals is simply not practical. Webcams with the best health professionals in Sydney can’t even solve these health issues. And you can’t move 50 professional and 100 other people into a town just to service 300-400.
    
    And when they do move into bigger towns, matters in their suburbs are just as bad, but at least the services are their to better protect the children.
    
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    November 24, 2018 2:01pm
- Komata
  
  Lifeisgood
  
  You’ve found that too? I regularly contact a family member living in Victoria, and she too bought into the ‘Jacinda the Great’ narrative as portrayed in the local media, although as one who was schooled in the use of ‘Correct’ English, she did observe that ‘She (JA) really doesn’t know how to speak properly does she?’
  
  She has since been made aware of the ‘realities’ of life in NZ under ‘Dear Leader’s’ auspices…
  
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  November 24, 2018 3:35pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Komata, so well-received was Jacinda’s message that v few of the bigwig leaders bothered to hang about at the UN Pie Feast to hear her make her address.
    
    Go Google the affair and you will find a few room shots that indicate v few of the rest of the world was much interested either.
    
    This is from the RNZ website:
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/367864/nz-staying-out-of-us-decision-to-end-diplomatic-visas-for-same-sex-partners
    
    The way the CoL paints it, the world was agog at the Thoughts of Comrade Jass and were six deep in the aisles of a crowded General Assembly to eagerly await those thoughts being passed on to them, ha.
    
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    November 24, 2018 3:52pm
dcrown

AOC: ‘People will die if we don’t act now’
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/418040-ocasio-cortez-on-climate-change-report-people-will-die-if-we-dont-act-now

It’s crazy these loons are back in power, at least they were only able to steal the election for the House and not the Senate.
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November 24, 2018 12:11pm
KeaRea

Just to raise my stocks again.

Newshub said the Global Warming cultists want to scorch the sky to combat all the global warming.

Just jump on Newshub.

http://electroverse.net/professor-valentina-zharkova-breaks-her-silence-and-confirms-super-grand-solar-minimum/

Meanwhile, the only climatologist to correctly model solar activity since the science began is forecasting global cooling – the exact opposite, due to the occurrence of ‘solar minimums’.

The global cooling thesis could actually be the correct thesis. In which case, all of the policies to combat ‘global warming’ – namely, centralisation of power, money, technocracy and sovereignty have achieved exactly the opposite of what is required for human sustainability lol. The exact opposite. Looks like we need more carbon in the atmosphere, not less. If atmospheric carbon even ‘is’ the mechanism for warming – that hasn’t been proven despite all the religio-fanatical assertions to the contrary.

Talking to Global warmists is even more fun then talking to obnoxious atheists.

Anyway there – my offering to anyone ‘disturbed’ by the Creed post lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLMjHrb_w4

Just a note – it’s never a good idea to scorch the sky.

In fact – if the earth is cooling, why would you want to try and cut it off from the sun or carbon?

Things are getting real now – all these bullshit theories and de-constructions and abstract models are starting to have real-world impact at huge scale.

‘Global Warming’

‘Equalitarianism’

‘Tabula Rasa Man’

What’s so annoying is that George Mason’s original conception of the Declaration of Independence did not say that all men are created equal. It said only that all men should be granted equal opportunity.

Very different.

I for one look forward to when we scorch the sky.
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November 24, 2018 12:14pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND (Housing Minister) Phil Twyford unveils new Housing and Urban Development Authority | Newshub
… extensive video interview ‘Newshub Nation’ included …

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/11/phil-twyford-unveils-new-housing-and-urban-development-authority.html

The Housing Minister says the new agency will act “in partnership” with local iwi, councils and the private sector.

The agency will also contain Housing New Zealand subsidiary HLC, becoming the Government’s primary provider for housing.

The minister was quick to assure that the transition would be smooth for existing social housing New Zealand tenants. … read more via hyperlink above …

Phil Twyford progresses Nick Smith’s plans to give central government the power cut through local planning rules to develop major urban housing projects | interest.co.nz
… access facts sheet …

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/97048/phil-twyford-progresses-nick-smiths-plans-give-central-government-power-cut-through

Ministry of Housing and Urban Development

https://www.hud.govt.nz/
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November 24, 2018 12:32pm
- KevOB
  
  We have had centralised planning previously-taking away land compulsorarily it not popular.
  
  Now we are to have KiwiBuild for the Commie $200K+ income ruling classes and Social Housing for the lower orders.
  
  How many taxpayers are left to fund this transition? Someone has to pay.
  
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  November 24, 2018 3:08pm
  - sooty
    
    How come nothing mentioned about kiwis?
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:03pm
Komata

Maggy @1150

Re: ‘She was clearly afraid of upsetting China….
same as her position at APEC’.

Now THAT raises all sorts of interesting possibilities, some of which have briefly seen the light of day before being quietly ‘allowed’ to ‘disappear’.

The MSM, tools that they are, ignore such things…
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November 24, 2018 12:47pm
- DigNap15
  
  She should listen to people like the leader of Malaysia
  
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  November 24, 2018 4:35pm
Jack5

If you’re a Canterbury Leftist who loathes Donald Trump you might enjoy today’s Christchurch Press. Besides a bland anti-Trump cartoon from the geriatric Tom Scott, a headline writer has boosted a rather slanted American news agency report about President Trump’s Thanksgiving day speech to American service men and women.
The Press headline reads: “Trump talk to troops full of boasting”

The report includes this:

The call was a uniquely Trump blend of boasting, peppered questions and off-the-cuff observations as his comments veered from venting about rights to praising troops – “You really are our heroes,” he [Trump] said.

Not that the report itself isn’t biased. It also includes this:

And throughout, Trump was sure to congratulate himself, telling the officers that the country is doing exceptionally well on his watch.
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November 24, 2018 12:52pm
- Manolo
  
  Until when will we have to endure the ghastly Tom Scott?
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:14pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Tom Scott is rather like Nigel Latta and Dave Dobbyn, Manolo – offending our eyeballs until the day they bolt down the coffin lids…
    
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    November 24, 2018 3:02pm
    - sooty
      
      He’s like herpes!
      
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      November 24, 2018 9:02pm
Viking2

More gestapo coming.
ttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/11/phil-twyford-unveils-new-housing-and-urban-development-authority.html?fbclid=IwAR2mZhFVR90Ymj3NRp5D5-yG3e-l_23VNV7SMX51tNKNzqmK0dD70BaPZZk

The HUDA will have broad powers, including being able to ignore existing council designations, amend or write its own by-laws and grant its own resource consent, and councils will have no veto power.

“It’s going to be a tooled-up agency that can cut through the red tape.”

According to documents released by Mr Twyford on Saturday, New Zealand towns have “traditionally… grown by turning neighbouring rural land into suburban homes.

“Second generation or ‘brownfields’ development is often difficult and risky with poor quality, aging or at-capacity infrastructure and disparate and fragmented land ownership. This means the private sector struggle to undertake these developments alone.”

In contrast, the new authority – expected to be in place by 2020 – will “have access to a range of statutory powers that better enable development when undertaking complex projects at scale and pace”.

These include being able to:
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November 24, 2018 12:52pm
KeaRea

The Wachowski brothers were brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0K6Cb1ZoG4

The Second Renaissance Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNiO2sTe2wo

The Second Renaissance Part 2

Neo-Babelism in the end leads to total technocracy, and total centralisation, and total corruption and total destruction, of everything. Why is it called the ‘singularity’ because it is a paradox. A philosophy of diversity and multi-culturalism and globalism leads to oneism in the pre-socratic sense, and total loss of the capacity for difference.

The Matrix is a metaphor for globalism, 20 years ahead of it’s time.

Note the identity politics told through the point of view of the machine.

God bless all forms of intelligence.

But not all forms of intelligence are created equal.

Have a watch of the Ani-matrix.

And don’t let liars and degenerates scorch the sky.
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November 24, 2018 1:03pm
- Fletch
  
  Except now they are the Wachowski sisters – both have ‘changed’ their gender….
  
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  November 24, 2018 1:34pm
stephieboy

KeaRea, the Monty Python sketch that follows is so much better,

Monty Python – Problem with words, Thripshaw’s Disease

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pImWVCMgEYQ
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November 24, 2018 1:09pm
- stigie
  
  “Small but ample breasts ” was merely just an incidental remark t. No more.”
  
  Bwahahahahaha Stiffy boy !~
  
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  November 24, 2018 4:46pm
secondcumming

Just saw a dwarf climbing down the wall of Mt Eden Prison.

Thought to myself “Now, that’s a little condescending”
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November 24, 2018 2:02pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  condescending – /kɒndɪˈsɛndɪŋ/
  adjective – having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.
  
  So Winston having an away day then?
  
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  November 24, 2018 2:48pm
Longknives

Very nice wee day at the office for Phil Mickelson!
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November 24, 2018 2:56pm
- Biscuit
  
  Longknives, for a so-called Battle Between Two Guys Who Hate Each Other, the contest was a tad lame.
  
  I was hoping for ‘Wow, Tiger r-e-a-l-l-y got his putter a l-o-n-g way up Phil’s rear end then!’ or ‘There’ll be a slight delay before Hole 7, folks, as officials unwrap Phil’s No. 4 Wood from around Tiger’s skull’.
  
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  November 24, 2018 2:59pm
  - Longknives
    
    It was silly money for a match between two guys of similar ability- The other guy has a slightly off day and you take home millions!
    I guess it was what the fans wanted?..
    
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    November 24, 2018 3:16pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Well, I didn’t ‘want’ it as such but I still watched!
      
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      November 24, 2018 3:43pm
- MrTips
  
  Mickelson is a jerk. Decent golfer but asshole gambler when the cameras turn away.
  
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  November 24, 2018 4:16pm
stoptheboats

Rahui strikes again, Tongariro crossing banned til Tuesday cos some guy died up there.Witchcraft alive and well in 2018 in NZ !
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November 24, 2018 3:02pm
- Longknives
  
  Ridiculous..
  
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  November 24, 2018 3:13pm
- realityczech
  
  You must be outraged about religious holidays like Easter and Christmas, where we are not allowed to go to the shops or have a beer?
  
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  November 24, 2018 3:22pm
  - Biscuit
    
    realityczech, stoptheboats and Longknives seem the sorts of souls intelligent enough to stock up their larders and/or booze cabinets ahead of possible shop shutdowns over holiday periods.
    
    But, tell me, have local Iwi shut Cook Strait down to all shipping whilst that Indian lady’s family grieves for her body being swept from Island Bay to the Wairarapa?
    
    It’s still Aoteoroa down here, isn’t it?
    
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    November 24, 2018 3:41pm
    - realityczech
      
      I see – relgious bullshit is fine, if it is your bullshit.
      
      You people are disgusting and should be removed from civilised society.
      
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      November 24, 2018 3:55pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Gee, thanks, realityczech.
        
        You have a good night, too, okay?
        
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        November 24, 2018 4:17pm
      - realityczech
        
        You have a good sleep. Church in the morning, where you get to listen to the ramblings of a desert cult read by a pedophile.
        
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        November 24, 2018 4:26pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      What is the relationship between an Indian and local iwi?
      
      I fail to see the connection…
      
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      November 24, 2018 7:02pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”I fail to see the connection”…..
        
        You’re not the only one. For instance on the 3rd Oct this year Sateesh Babu Halehally-Chikkanna of Bangalore, India died on the same Tongario crossing. That involved a rahui too.
        
        Perhaps the Cook Strait has different taniwha.
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:19pm
      - simpleton1
        
        ….. karakia were recited at the Mangatepopo Road end of the crossing after the recovery of the man’s body. …..
        ….. “The rāhui allows family and whānau to reflect in peace.”
        So everybody else looking to do the walk, must wait 3 days.
        
        Would be good in the mean time, if they were accommodated and fed on the marae, and so make it all a great ‘aotearoa’ experience.
        Just a small bit of ‘koha’ would suffice.
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:35pm
realityczech

More than 300 Pennsylvania priests abused 1,000 children over decades, report says

I wonder how many of the KB regulars spend their Sundays groveling before these pedophiles ?
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November 24, 2018 3:58pm
- MrTips
  
  RC, check your source code. I think your chromosome.exe file is corrupted…..
  
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  November 24, 2018 4:25pm
  - realityczech
    
    Least of my worries mate
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/14/more-than-300-pennsylvania-priests-committed-sexual-abuse-over-decades
    
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    November 24, 2018 4:30pm
    - nasska
      
      From RC’s link:
      
      …..”More than 300 “predator priests” were found to have committed sexual abuse in Pennsylvania, harming more than 1,000 children”…..
      
      Yet more sick bastards hiding behind an imaginary deity.
      
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      November 24, 2018 7:26pm
DigNap15

I see Twyford is setting up a new govt department.
Its goin to be called
Kiwislum
And its going to take him 2 years!
Two years to order some letterheads!
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November 24, 2018 4:37pm
Viking2

This will make the greenies shit their breeks.

New $7b mega-mine to deliver 4000 jobs

A massive coal mine located next door to Adani’s project has been given the green light by the state’s co-ordinator-general – and it’s set to funnel more than $188 million a year into the state’s coffers.
https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites/couriermail/subscribe.html?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=https://www.couriermail.com.au/business/queensland-coordinatorgeneral-gives-green-light-for-7-billion-galilee-basin-coal-mine/news-story/9927711cda6bec42c541dcc36ebc1280&memtype=anonymous
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November 24, 2018 4:54pm
- RF
  
  I know a miner – Kiwi who went to Aussie after his coal mine near Greymouth closed down – who is now heavily involved in Coal Mining in Queensland.
  
  Galilee Basin is just the tip of the iceberg. More to come over there….
  
  Fuck you SLAG. (Stupid little Ardern Girl.)
  
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  November 24, 2018 6:23pm
  - stigie
    
    Yes and fuck you over the oil and gas ban and the banning of triple use plastic bags.
    What about fucking disposable baby nappies then..? S.L.A.G !~
    
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    November 24, 2018 7:31pm
    - Viking2
      
      Everything less than 70 microns. Well bags can be made at 72.
      It shits me off no end to go into mega, buy lots of nuts bolts screws and bits and then be told to carry them to my car “as you haven’t brought your bag”.
      
      I’m just buying more and more online. Its just easier and the stupid shits in the chains who allowed this to get across the line deserve to loose the business.
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:41pm
RF

Three loud and hearty cheers for the editor of the NZ Listener.

The current editorial has just given Labour led Govt a right royal serve concerning the Pike River Mine.

Its reminded readers that Little said the mine had a good health and safety committee and nothing had alerted the union to any risk. This was in spite of a poor reputation with some contractors refusing to work in it.

In addition it lambasted the Labour led Govt for politicising the tragedy plus Peters promising to be first down the mine.

Helen Clark once called John Campbell. A little creep. Guess who has now taken this title.

In addition to Ardern the liar we have Little the liar. There will be others but I cannot be bothered naming them…
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November 24, 2018 4:58pm
realityczech

Only seven Wanaka KiwiBuild homes sell from ballot

Seems folk in the rich resort town don’t want to slum it in one of Arderns modest houses. Must be a shortage of Labour voting Doctors down there.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108834461/only-seven-wanaka-kiwibuild-homes-sell-from-ballot
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November 24, 2018 5:07pm
Jack5

Andrew Little’s contract lenses give him a death-ray gaze.

From this picture with this report in the Hooerald, Jacinderella may have substituted a look-alike humanoid robot for Andrew the Tunneller.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12165136
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November 24, 2018 5:39pm
- realityczech
  
  I hope he brings out a decent load of coal. It is the only good reason for going into a coal mine.
  
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  November 24, 2018 5:44pm
  - Komata
    
    Realityczech
    
    No, no, no, you’ve got it wrong.
    
    The ‘only’ good reason for going into THIS coal mine is to bring out a cargo of VOTES and to show what a ‘Caring and Responsible’ government the one he represents actually is.
    
    Aside from that, Mr Little has absolutely NO reason to ever go anywhere near the place.
    
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    November 24, 2018 7:27pm
    - nasska
      
      There’s a little more to it than that Komata. From http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1704/S00366/huge-cover-up-over-pike-river-mine-re-entry.htm
      
      …..”Newshub has revealed tonight that video footage exists of a robot and two searchers in the Pike River tunnel months after the fatal explosion. That video footage has been kept secret and never been shown to the families of the victims.”…..
      
      The CoL are hoping & praying that they can prove that National were involved with a cover-up. They don’t give a fuck about the miners, their bodies nor the families.
      
      It’s politics pure & simple.
      
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      November 24, 2018 7:35pm
      - Komata
        
        Nasska
        
        My point exactly.
        
        Thank you.
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:45pm
      - stigie
        
        If that’s the case why didn’t the prick Peters go in before now..?
        Was that when the prick was still smoking and unable to ? //
        
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        November 24, 2018 7:46pm
- Inandout
  
  Jack, I doubt Andrew has seen a union contract for yonks, but his lenses must mist up when he sits next to Cindy.
  
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  November 24, 2018 5:54pm
Tauhei Notts

It is not politics but I have seen a movie on Rialto that I can recommend called
“Mr Stein Goes Online”. French with subtitles, it is almost a chick flick but without the nauseating feminazis.
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November 24, 2018 6:00pm
Nostradamus

Another one for Morrissey’s file: Man refused bail after allegedly groping woman involved in car crash.

The carpenter is facing four charges, including two accounts of indecent assault, over an alleged incident in Bankstown on Thursday night. … Inspector Dave Firth from Bankstown Police described Mr Basic’s alleged actions as “predatory” and “spontaneous”.

I thought a “carpenter” was supposed to be capable of doing good things with his hands!
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November 24, 2018 7:47pm
- nasska
  
  ….”I thought a “carpenter” was supposed to be capable of doing good things with his hands!”…..
  
  No. You were thinking of sheep & beef farmers! 🙂
  
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  November 24, 2018 7:58pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    There’s a difference between “handling” and “fisting” old chap. Just ask the pride parade organisers!
    
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    November 24, 2018 8:38pm
    - nasska
      
      That’s okay then.
      
      After you’ve used calving chains & a 4×4 quad to pull a calf out of a cow a few times you become a bit blasé about these things. 🙂
      
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      November 24, 2018 8:47pm
stigie

Nostra:-

If he’s a leftie, don’t count on him being on his groping list ole chap !~
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November 24, 2018 7:57pm
Viking2

65 years since the Opening of the first Family Planning clinic.
Short history.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/108728780/flashback-the-first-family-planning-clinic-opens-above-an-auckland-garage

Needed more than ever from my grapevine.
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November 24, 2018 8:42pm
- nasska
  
  From V2’s link:
  
  …..”Deaths from such backstreet abortions were common at the time. In 1937 the McMillan Inquiry found that one in every five pregnancies ended in abortion, and that most of the women dying were married with children.”…..
  
  ONE in FIVE & the Godaddled freaks are still trying to turn the clocks back to those dreadful days.
  
  …..”in 1946 when the Dominion Population Committee report claimed widely issued contraceptives could “destroy the moral stamina of the nation”.”…..
  
  Newsflash: They’re still at it!
  
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  November 24, 2018 8:56pm
  - MrTips
    
    One in five pregnancies are still aborted: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/19/news/la-heb-abortion-rates-worldwide-20120119
    
    The modern law has done nothing to reduce that stat.
    
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    November 24, 2018 9:51pm
Viking2

Yep and after all those naughty men and women in the services were handed out condomss to do what comes naturally and is promoted by the fear of not living because of the war.

Nuts they were and are still.
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November 24, 2018 9:12pm
Viking2

sometimes guests on TV get it right.

Fox News guest Anna Paulina apologised for comparing former first lady and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to a sexually transmitted disease in a Thursday segment broadcast by the network.

“Yesterday on Fox I was placed on the wrong segment & in the confusion made a brash and unprofessional joke,” Paulina tweeted Friday. “To Fox and those watching, I am deeply sorry.”

The network offered on-air apologies and cut Paulina’s segment short, Fox News said in a Friday statement to USA TODAY.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/108846443/fox-news-guest-compares-hillary-clinton-to-herpes
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November 24, 2018 9:13pm
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“She won’t go away,” Paulina said with a sigh. “She’s like herpes.”

That will get CNN going.
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