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General Debate 23 November 2018

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Fletch

First!

I’m not sure why they call it Black Friday – I thought that was supposed to be Friday the 13th…

Here’s some Mockers, and some Steely Dan music around the theme though –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Ycs9WjCdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pw4t_Falo
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November 23, 2018 10:18am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I heard this morning that it’s because retailers go into the black financially from now until Christmas.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:25am
  - Fletch
    
    Ahh yeh. Just looked it up. I knew the first reference was to the stockmarket crash, but then, as you say, it was the day after Thanksgiving when everyone went shopping crazy and it got retailers into the black.
    
    https://www.history.com/news/whats-the-real-history-of-black-friday
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:32am
- peterwn
  
  “The earliest evidence of the phrase Black Friday applied to the day after Thanksgiving in a shopping context suggests that the term originated in Philadelphia, where it was used to describe the heavy and disruptive pedestrian and vehicle traffic that would occur on the day after Thanksgiving.”
  I had not heard of the USA style Black Friday until a couple of years ago when we were in USA at Thanksgiving time. Shops open at about 6am or so and stay open until very late.
  It only seems to have caught on among some NZ retailers in the last year or so.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:32am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Seems so nutty and ironic that in age dedicated to searching for NZ’s supposed ‘unique identity’ we latch on so readily to other countries’ customs, be it Black Friday or Hallowe’en. A pox on both.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:22am
    - peterwn
      
      Charlie Brown can be blamed for Hallowe’en coming to NZ since NZ television played the Peanuts Hallowe’en episodes.
      
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      November 23, 2018 12:10pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Add Valentine’s Day to the list.
      Commercial tripe
      
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      November 23, 2018 8:57pm
- kowtow
  
  Another stupid retail import .
  
  ps Is it racist ?
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:33am
  - RalphT
    
    No, calling it White Friday would be racist. However, to avoid criticism they could call it Afro-American Friday or Black Lives Matter Friday.
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:42am
  - sooty
    
    If the snowflakes get upset because it’s black, who cares! Big box I went past carpark was full, parking on verge.
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:46am
  - Rich Prick
    
    A Friday of colour, perhaps.
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:57am
  - VicParking
    
    I wondered why I got strange looks when I went into town with Black Face this morning!
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:59am
  - hullkiwi
    
    In Hawera it might be.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:35am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Another stupid retail import .
    
    Along with bl**dy Halloween.
    
    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-pyramid-part-one.html?m=1
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:57am
MT_Tinman

First!

Wow!
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November 23, 2018 10:18am
- double d
  
  Epic Fail!
  🙂
  Note to self – must try harder!
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:21am
Pateke

Woodhouse has got Fleas Galloway firmly in his sights now. Keep up the pressure mike!
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November 23, 2018 10:18am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  There are only four people who know the real reason for Please Gallopaway’s bizarre decision to go against the perfectly sensible advice of his officials to deport the Czech criminal.
  
  Those four are:
  
  1. Please Gallopaway himself
  2. Stroubek
  3. Princess Cindy
  4. Jethro
  
  Unless one of them squeals nothing will happen.
  The most likely one to squeal is Stroubek, but he will only squeal if he’s deported, and if he squeals the Government will implode.
  That’s why he’s staying.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:26am
  - alloytoo
    
    What amazes me is how much Political capital Ardern is wasting on this. (and frankly she doesn’t have much to waste)
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:51am
    - Paulus
      
      But she has gone on a Train ride today in the South Island train set via Kaikoura.
      Presumable there will be children en route waving flags as she passes, thanking her for the wonderful restoration job she has done.
      Hope Bubba likes trains too.
      
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      November 23, 2018 1:33pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    Been reading between the lines Cap’n?
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:51am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Yep!
      
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      November 23, 2018 10:55am
  - sooty
    
    Who in the top of Labour party is using recreational drugs and needs their use hidden from the public?
    Should this person beallowed near the reins of goverment?
    We know what happened with Jami lee Ross?
    The only reason to give the bad cheque a free pass is to cover this up by him not talking.
    Slease Gallopaway is too dumb to organise it properly. He was left blinded by the headlights like Clare trying to explain!
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:58am
    - Paulus
      
      Jami l Ross made his first PR exercise yesterday so that he has let his friends the media know that he is on his way back to the top.
      Plenty of media there at Middlemore – presumably after having been told that he was going to be there for his Lazarus comeback.
      
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      November 23, 2018 1:37pm
  - VicParking
    
    If only grass clippings could talk!
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:00am
  - kevn
    
    @Captn…. Well that’s just great isn’t it… NOT.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:04am
  - Surely Knott
    
    I reckon the real reason was posted on this site the other day by Longknives. It’s certainly the most plausible explanation we’ve seen so far.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:08am
    - Komata
      
      SN
      
      Can you find it and repost please; I’ve searched without success.
      
      Thank you.
      
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      November 23, 2018 1:28pm
      - madamezucchininz
        
        ….I was upset with myself for not taking a screenshot…..it was gone within the hour…..
        
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        November 23, 2018 4:39pm
  - RF
    
    Don’t forget Arderns confidante…. the baybee. She and Ardern are joined at the hip.
    
    Just a thought…. what happened to the Ducks empty threat if anyone dare look at Baybee or even worse… choke choke… take a photo of its face.
    
    Meanwhile Jethro is whoring it around…. Time for a woman’s weekly photo shoot to take the pressure off Ardern.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:38am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Did you notice the Gallopaway has slipped something else this week. Namely, an increase in ACC levies on car registrations for next year.
    
    The story went, the ACC originally wanted an extra 1.9% added to the 3.5cents increase in fuel levy. But because the increase in petrol levies was going down like a bucket of sick, they opted for recommending that $12 be added to vehicle registration.
    
    So thank you Sleazy, if you don’t tax us one way, you hope we won’t notice you picking our other pocket.
    
    Clearly, your parents wasted their money sending you to Kings, if this is the extent of your ability to think through matters!
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:43am
    - DigNap15
      
      I prefer the increase to be on ACC levies as that picks up all vehicles, otherwise EVs etc get away with paying nothing towards accidents!
      
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      November 23, 2018 1:13pm
      - Paulus
        
        Not sure EVs have a road fund sticker which includes the ACC portion ?
        
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        November 23, 2018 1:39pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yes, Woodhouse was very impressive with Mike Hosking this morning. He was factual, on message, and it won’t have made pleasant listening for ILG, who will be dreading Parliament’s resumption on Tuesday.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:26am
  - Muttonbird
    
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    Indeed. Who knows what further info National has paid his ex-wife for.
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:49am
    - Tall Man
      
      So what? It’s a shame though that the opposition has to pay to get the truth that Ardern the liar is quite happy to conceal. Perhaps if the opposition has the time they can find someone to “pay” to release the coalition agreement of this “most open and transparent” government.
      
      While they’re at it they can get the details on the D Handley appointment, the truth about the assault by Meka the masher and the truth about angry andy’s role in the “safety” issues at the Pike River mine.
      
      Looks like the opposition will have to do these things because the coalition is too busy snuffling in the trough.
      
      Now, off you go idiot.
      
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      November 23, 2018 10:55am
      - Muttonbird
        
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        Err. I think the opposition needs to have a look at its own corruption and crappy morals first.
        
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        November 23, 2018 11:02am
      - sooty
        
        Why Labour beat them hands down (pants) in the corruption stakes. Slease, Twit, Meka, Clare, Clark, Winney, Shane, Kelvin, Pies, Comrade.
        
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        November 23, 2018 11:12am
      - Tall Man
        
        Hang on, you’re concerned that the “opposition” may have problems? Should you not be concerned that government has problems?
        
        Ahh, that’s right. You’re here to hide the failings of the government under Ardern the liar and winston the thief by pointing the finger at irrelevancies.
        
        You really need to think before you post as it makes you look so stupid and as you may know, if you look like an idiot, post like an idiot then you probably are an idiot.
        
        Had the health check yet?
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
        gump is a poor quality intern..
        
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        November 23, 2018 11:13am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      FFS, even stupider than usual this morning Muttonhead?
      
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      November 23, 2018 10:56am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Good grief, so we have to pay to get information on the most open and transparent Government ever.
      
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      November 23, 2018 11:00am
      - Muttonbird
        
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        Ironic that the money-for-dirt campaign National is running at the moment is paid for with dodgy, split, cash for candidates donations from wealthy immigrants.
        
        Did these clowns not learn anything from John Banks’ corruption?
        
        Pretty sure National had a funding hand in the Handley, Haumaha, and Whaitiri cases too.
        
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        November 23, 2018 11:15am
    - artemisia
      
      From the sound of it the ex might be paying National to make public certain things.
      
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      November 23, 2018 11:21am
    - Tall Man
      
      Is see no response from gump, not at labour hq today?
      
      I just love the way you guys try to deflect yet end up clearly identifying what a fucked up coalition we have.
      
      “Dirt Campaign” is the correct label as this coalition is so full of dirt that it needs to be highlighted and that my little simpleton is the role of an effective opposition. If the coalition’s hands were clean they would have nothing to fear would they..and yet they certainly are terrified of the current opposition under Simon Bridges.
      
      You keep referencing “overseas” donations or “immigrant’s” donations to National. Wouldn’t greenpeace’s contribution to the greens fall into that category? I would like to see one example of legislation from National, enacted or proposed, that has been influenced by any “overseas” donations. Just one will do.
      
      Yet we see clearly the “payback” to the unions for their massive donations to the labour party. Is that not something to fear?
      
      Muttonbird, you are an embarrassment to the rest of your labour interns including the witless gump and the confused steffy girl and the perpetually stunned marquess so why not pop off and get the mental health assessment that you clearly need along with your heart checkup. Your yawning is a clear symptom of poor health.
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
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      November 23, 2018 11:34am
      - gump
        
        Notice how nobody is replying? It’s because nobody cares.
        
        Because your account constantly shills on behalf of the Chinese.
        
        It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.
        
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        November 23, 2018 3:19pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      It would be nice if you could provide evidence to support your argument Muttonbird. Or is it just another anonymous, defamatory smear?
      
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      November 23, 2018 12:14pm
      - Ross12
        
        No KS.
        Muttonbird just doesn’t know what it is like to see an opposition doing it’s job properly, so has to come up with some BS to explain it.
        
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        November 23, 2018 12:21pm
      - Muttonbird
        
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        Sroubek’s ex has shacked up with a National backed local body candidate and National Party member. Not hard to follow that trail.
        
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        November 23, 2018 12:46pm
      - secondcumming
        
        You sure about that MB? A mate of mine at the gun club reckons shes shacked up with some guy who owns a lawn mowing franchise.
        
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        November 23, 2018 1:51pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @muttonbird
        
        Where is the evidence that Sroubek’s ex-wife has accepted payment from The National Party for information as your 10:49am post claims?
        
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        November 23, 2018 3:05pm
    - Liberty
      
      Muttonbird
      Would you like to explain why a Minister overruled his department and let a scummy low life
      stay in the country.
      Does the scummy low life have friends in high places?
      Typical of Col another inquire undertaken
      Sent of to the Minister of clusterfucks to find out in 3 weeks and still waiting. What everyone knew weeks go. The Minister fucked up/Someone tugged his string.
      Still it is nearly late Fridays afternoon. When Ministers release reports they don’t want anyone to read. While the conniving media will be off for their friday afternoon drinks.
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:57pm
cmm

SECRET SECRET
APEC TAPE #9

ONE PARTY OBSCURED BY FLOWER ARRANGEMENT

Jacinda Ardern(JA): inaudible (11 seconds)
Karen Pence(KP): It’s fish dear.
JA: inaudible (15 seconds)
KP: No dear, they didn’t forget the batter or the crumbs. It’s salmon.
JA: inadible (33 seconds)
KP: I’m sure the fish and chip shop did make you an expert on fish, but this really is salmon and it is not supposed to be fried with crumbs or batter.
JA: inaudible (7 seconds)
KP: Well it’s cold smoked, so it isn’t really raw.
JA: inaudible (16 seconds)
KP: No dear, not that kind of smoking. It won’t give you cancer.
JA: inaudible (18 seconds)
KP: I suppose it is rather confusing putting up no smoking signs then giving us smoked fish. I’m sure we can all overlook it this time.
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November 23, 2018 10:20am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Years of laughter
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:19am
Captain Mainwaring

So Jami-Lee Ross turns up at the opening of the new psycho unit at Middlemore Hospital (which would have been started under the National Govt.) and said he’s not there to be political.
Then David Clark the so-called Minister of Health licks his arse, loves him to bits and turns the whole thing into a Labour love-fest.
And our useless media laps it all up.
This country is fucked.
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November 23, 2018 10:22am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I laughed at the bit about JLR being seen hugging all the staff who had helped him.
  Aww, how sweet … but I thought one of JLRs issues was that he couldn’t keep his hands and other bits to himself.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:36am
  - Paulus
    
    How long was he in Middlemore – thought it was only a couple of days ?
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:42pm
- MickMac
  
  No, David Clark was being a decent man and encouraging someone going through a bad mental health patch.
  What don’t you get about that?
  Just because he’s Labour doesn’t mean he hasn’t got empathy or a heart……
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:29pm
stigie

This idiot with a face like a busted grape should be lined up against a wall and……t.
We in NZ do not need people like this that despises our NZDF and call our soldiers war criminals.
How this prick gets to work for a government department is beyond me !~
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November 23, 2018 10:25am
wiseowl

Where is the outrage in NZ about the possible signing of the UN Compact on Migration.
There has been good coverage of the issue in Australia and at least Scomo has seen the light.
Rise up New Zealand.Tell the UN where to stick their agreements and attempts to control the world.
Let MP’s know that we do not want to sign up to this appalling agreement and they are there to make decisions in our interest not in the interests of unelected socialists from shithole countries .
This is an opportunity for NZ First to put NZ first.
Deliver.
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November 23, 2018 10:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hillary Clinton reckons Europe must curb immigration
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit
  
  (She didn’t mention NZ or Aussie curbing immigration)
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:45am
- greybeard
  
  I sent emails to Hosking, Williams and HDPA yesterday on this very topic, asking them all what they had done to evaluate the issue: no response, no mention of it.
  
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  November 23, 2018 6:24pm
tedbear

Auckland’s train set is broken already.
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November 23, 2018 10:27am
- hullkiwi
  
  As one of my AT colleagues put it, “What do you expect when lunatics who never knew what they were doing are appointed to run the asylum?”
  
  Says it all about those who set the farce up in the first place….
  
  By the way….
  
  1. AT CEO is publicly saying that CRL will be delivered in 2025/26 – only 2.5 years later than the original plan; and
  2. Capital spend now forecast to exceed $6bn, the original spend was $2.5bn – 2.5 times more than original, not bad.
  
  Any bets Auckland tram will be delivered within 10 years and for less than $15bn?
  
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  November 23, 2018 12:26pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Anyone who has had dealings with AT would be scared of the influence, idiotic power hungry ideas and unlimited chequebooks they have
  
  There is no business sense or ratepayer focus anywhere in that whole organisation
  
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  November 23, 2018 8:14pm
Liberty

“auckland-city-rail-link-firm-goes-into-administration”

Titford should be look looking on the bright side.
Because the bad news (for Titford)is he is going to have to face Judith in the house.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108812410/auckland-city-rail-link-firm-goes-into-administration.
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November 23, 2018 10:28am
- peterwn
  
  Better for it to happen now than before they were to start the work in earnest.
  In this context I feel sorry for the Indian Government. They were having a new Embassy built in Pipitea St then Eberts went bust. Looking from New World carpark, site has been at a standstill for several weeks.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:39am
  - tf78
    
    Re New World – if it’s the Remuera one I’ve heard they want to knock the car park down and put the shopping centre where the car park is and build a multi storied car park where the shop sits now. Might be a good way to hurry up the demo me thinks. Total waste of money if you ask me.
    
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    November 23, 2018 12:49pm
srylands

This is hilarious. Banks should not lend to oil companies.

http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2018/11/climate-change-aussie-banks-are-burning.html
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November 23, 2018 10:29am
- peterwn
  
  In due course, smart investors are going to realise that they can get better returns with un-ethical investments. Then there will be calls for legislation to limit Kiwisaver investments to ethical ones only.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:42am
  - srylands
    
    Well I’m looking forward to my summer 7000 km Aussie road trip. In a large SUV that I will fill with 1,000 litres of cheap Aussie petrol.
    
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    November 23, 2018 10:59am
    - softail 1450
      
      srylands ,make sure the A/C is working correctly,you will need it .
      
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      November 23, 2018 11:41am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        And don’t go to North Queensland during the wet season, and don’t get bored if the scenery doesn’t change for four days.
        Oh, and watch out for nasty critters.
        
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        November 23, 2018 4:16pm
    - peterwn
      
      You save a little bit of petrol if you go anti-clockwise.
      
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      November 23, 2018 6:06pm
  - KevOB
    
    Ethical is defined by political flavour and association.
    The word has lost its meaning–it’s done a Hager.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:12am
  - Paulus
    
    Kiwisaver is a con by the Management Fees – now it will earn even less if the Managers are shackled by what they can invest in – the returns will lessen with such investments.
    Let the buggers invest for the best return and that is not in large “ethical” shares.
    Typical minority Green Party thinking, but that is nothing new.
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:47pm
secondcumming

FFS!! When will these people ever learn?

Tourists taking a bike with saddle-bags into Northland, is the equivalent of a Preacher landing on North Sentinel Island with a Bible………

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1065691417866117128
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November 23, 2018 10:29am
- JibberJabber
  
  Darwin works in mysterious ways.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:34am
- kowtow
  
  Problem is they’ve been marketed a lie that Aotearoa is a great place to visit , to sample the local “culture” …….
  
  New Zealand is , but not “Aotearoa”
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:35am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes I advise all tourists to be careful around our maori’s and PI’s.
    They are good company til they get drunk or angry.
    And watch your belongings.
    
    They also ask me why they speak so badly well, and use so much drugs.
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:17pm
- backster
  
  Thy should check out Shame Jones nephews.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:57am
  - VicParking
    
    They have alibis, their couches will testify on their behalf
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:06am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    No they were busy planting trees, and know nothing.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:43am
  - softail 1450
    
    backster,only if the robbery happened after 1pm ,thats when the lazy bastards get out of bed .
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:43am
  - howitis
    
    AAAW
    Yous fellas should come here bro.
    Its grouse.
    We’ll look after you cars n shit
    Just $10 bro
    No sweat
    
    ….signed…Hemi Charger
    Cool second name eh bro
    bedda than my cousie
    He is Sony Teevee
    Silly name really
    We just call him Sonny T
    
    Uncle Shane says pop in for some kai moana and come see the good looking horses at the beach races
    sweet as.
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:05pm
- kevn
  
  @SC… Northland early settler alert was needed.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:06am
- Inandout
  
  I visited Northland about 8 years ago and even back then the warning signs were evident. The lower car park at Waitangi was littered with broken vehicle glass, and the visit to the big kauri tree in the forest meant parking for 30 minutes total. Heaps of time for the culture boys to strip the vehicle. There wasn’t a very nice atmosphere in most of the Far North, and in some cases outright hostile looks from local whanau. I agree all tourists should be warned they are entering risky areas, and if they still go then more fool them.
  
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  November 23, 2018 12:30pm
  - tf78
    
    My daughter in-law took a school camp up there last year and came back to her car to find all the wheels had been nicked. What a bloody hassle that was.
    
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    November 23, 2018 12:53pm
Notsofast

Here’s the thing.

From the official appeal court website

“Whether the appeal should be dismissed because no substantial miscarriage of justice has actually occurred? Held: the proviso to s 385 of the Crimes Act 1961 should be applied; a guilty verdict was inevitable had the trial proceeded without the mRNA evidence because of the Crown’s IHC evidence and evidence of Christine’s DNA on Mr Lundy’s shirt; and the admission of the mRNA evidence did not have the effect of making the trial unfair.”

But we went from human RNA in the shirt stain, in the “CNS”, to Christine’s dna “associated with”, “in conjunction with” the “CNS”.

The reasoning of the court? Simply put, the “CNS” was pure so could not come from the foodchain so came from the only source available, the crime scene. The reasoning of the court involves a scenic route that never mentions the forensic purity of Mark, his car, and the handwaving away of unknown cloth fibers and dna under fingernails when there are extensive research papers showing these items disappear quickly in everyday activity, but of course not from murdered victims.

Now let everyone clearly understand, the “pure “CNS” is pure bullshit.
The defence and prosecution witnesses all dined happily together before testifying this pathological nonsense. None of them had forensic accreditation, but this is the last albatross to shoot down.
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November 23, 2018 10:33am
- Notsofast
  
  On forensic purity, no trace on glasses or hair roots on Mark, and a proper defined blood shadow on the wall behind the killer, what head gear did he dress in BEFORE he entered the house? Without a proper answer you join the appeal court ostriches on this matter.
  And think carefully about logistics after the killing to get back to Petone with no momentos from the crime scene, the jewelry box disappeared along with all the clothing.
  No blood in the motel drains, and so on, then a stroll to buy batteries for a razor at 7 am followed by totally normal documented commercial visits till the phone call at 11 am.
  For pities sake, this sort of stitch up can happen to any member of your families, and only lawyers can avoid any explanation. How would it work in your own jobs?
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:53am
dcrown

Welcome to Barack Hussein Obama’s America everybody!

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/417967-13-year-old-girl-who-wrote-essay-on-gun-violence-killed-by
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November 23, 2018 10:35am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Welcome to Donald Trump’s America’s every ody.
  
  the worse civilian mass shooting in US history
  
  The Las Vegas shootings.
  
  https://wgntv.com/2018/10/01/las-vegas-mass-shooting-one-year-later/
  
  Not forgetting Parklands,
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:11am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Parklands,
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/105718441/Parkland-school-shooting-survivors-remember-victims-with-tree-planting-in-Christchurch
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:14am
  - Tall Man
    
    And unlike obama Donald Trump is trying to make America great again.
    
    If obama hadn’t fucked the economy so badly Trump would’ve had an easier job on his hands.
    
    However, if crimes are to be visited upon the leader of the country, what about
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/archive.cfm?c_id=30
    
    Hasn’t Ardern the liar done well?
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:21am
  - MrTips
    
    Geez stephie. Your posts make you sound like an ass-tronaut test pilot for unmanned space flights…get a grip.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:35am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy ” every ody” , sounds like a great name for a goat…..you are not confused again are you?
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:48am
  - Inandout
    
    The snail like release of video footage of the killer is what you find when a Muslim goes balmy. What happened to his Muslim girlfriend and the hotel security guard who was whisked away almost overnight? The whole Las Vegas thing stinks of an ILG type coverup stephie.
    
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    November 23, 2018 12:56pm
artemisia

Stuff reporting today that Ashburton has 500 jobs they can’t fill. Same in some other rural communities.

Dairying and other worker immigrants from the Philippines are highly regarded. My experience with immigrants from there is very positive. Educated, lovely people, family minded, good English, hard working. Quite a few midwives have been brought in from there, striking midwives should keep that in mind ….

Rural communities could usefully open their doors to them, leave the nephs mouldering on the couch.
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November 23, 2018 10:35am
- Tarquin North
  
  Limit the time you can stay on the dole, drug test, force people to go to interviews or no payments and make those payments in vouchers. It’s the only way forward.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:48am
  - Tall Man
    
    However, I used to work in the employment field and these people are extremely skilled in job aversion.
    
    In the past they used to lose their benefit for a time if they refused a job or an interview. Those sanctions are gone so why would you work when you can collect up to a grand per week plus do a few little cashies selling a desired substance and rip off the neighbours occasionally?
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:03am
  - artemisia
    
    Still need someone to employ them, with 90 day trial gone for a large chunk of the market.
    
    Our small tradie firm has taken on a few young guys off the dole over the years. Normal distribution curve, skewed to the lower end, most high maintenance, any excuse to take a smoke or phone break. Not doing it ever again.
    
    We now have 1.5 owners and two older experienced guys, and are booked up nearly to the middle of 2019. All work is from existing clients, have not advertised for 2 years.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:17am
  - DigNap15
    
    No sterilization is abetter way forward. We need to reduce the number of ferals we are supporting and being beaten and robbed by.
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:20pm
- Colville
  
  A good mate of mine was production manager in a large factory in Ashburtos up till a couple of years back.
  Couldnt get staff because owners wouldnt pay reasonable wages and treated staff like dirt so there was high staff churn.
  Of the 500 jobs I would bet 90% are below the $20/hr mark for shift work.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:50am
- Inandout
  
  arte, that is what you get with mostly Christian immigrants from the Philippines, bloody good workers. Our Labour lazy yoof won’t get off their fat arses for anything, except maybe a cut of their bene payments.
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:02pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  There are already more than a thousand Filipinos living in mid Canterbury, hard working and integrate well.
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:27pm
- Jack5
  
  Forty years ago, farm cadet schemes were widespread. Many of these young people became share milkers then dairy farmers.
  
  What happened to these schemes? Why aren’t young people working on farms? Why aren’t Auckland kids being recruited?
  
  National’s record in immigration is around the D minus level. Under it, student-visa rorts led to a huge inflow of low-skill fast-food workers. An IT teacher tells me only a tiny proportion of his overseas students plan to work in IT.
  
  Michael Woodhouse was a mediocre Minister of Immigration, and he’s still National’s immigration spokesman.
  
  Agreed that Filipinos are for the most part good people and hard working – as you would expect given they come from a Third World country and it’s hard to move from a Third World country to a First World country.
  
  But the foreign farm workers don’t have votes until they are citizens, and with farms getting bigger and thus fewer, and often being owned by foreigners or by local companies, farmer numbers are dwindling. That is, there are bugger all votes to be gained by championing importing low-cost labour for the dairy industry.
  
  If National makes a stand favouring high immigration of low skilled and semi-skilled workers and farmhands, NZ First or another tiny party will again hold the power balance at the next election.
  
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  November 23, 2018 2:11pm
tedbear

I ran out of edit time, so here’s another go..
Twyford’s train set is broken already.
Just like his Kiwibuild toy.
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November 23, 2018 10:36am
Maggy Wassilieff

RCR Tomlinson got itself into trouble with cost overruns constructing a couple of solar farms in Queensland.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/rcr-takes-huge-write-down-on-queensland-solar-projects-81971/

It’s not just the Auckland City Rail link that’s in trouble, there’s the Melbourne underground, Melbourne’s sewage system, numerous Aussie solar farms… etc…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-22/engineering-firm-rcr-tomlinson-goes-into-administration/10544980
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November 23, 2018 10:38am
- peterwn
  
  I cannot understand this. The cost of building solar farms should be easy to estimate as everything is above ground. It is the underground stuff that is tricky since the contractor does not know what to expect and can face rude shocks during the job. For example the George Street light rail contract has been a disaster (different contractor) because they did not realise the extent that the ground below George Street was riddled with services, underground substations, etc.
  Perhaps the problem was that since the solar farm was relatively easy to estimate RCR Tomlinson took too much for granted and goofed.
  
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  November 23, 2018 10:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There seem to have been a number of problems
    1. Change in conditions /regulations from the Energy operator
    2. Lack of expertise with solar-electricity projects
    3. Subsurface ground conditions
    4. poor weather
    5. Poor managerial oversight
    
    https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/contracting/engineering-firm-rcr-tomlinson-collapses-appoints-administrators-ng-b881028755z
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:16am
  - Colville
    
    peterwn.
    
    I was recently in Italy talking to a Aussie bloke who was working on a new subway station…. basically anywhere you dig in the bigger cities you know you are going to hit 1000 year old ruins… so its a lottery if you are actually going to get to build the buildings anytime in the next 10 years…
    These guys had scraped away the surface and discovered and 1800 yr old baths building…
    
    I am not quite sure how you price for that!
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:55am
- tf78
  
  I see Shorten is promising 100,000 batteries for people with solar panels to store their electricity. Don’t know how they’re going dispose of said batteries in a few years time.
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:52pm
  - alloytoo
    
    I’m curious as to how the insurance companies are going to factor in the fire hazard of these things.
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:34pm
secondcumming

All I said to her was, “….be there or be square”

She didn’t turn up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsnbq-mWkAY9-mf.jpg
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November 23, 2018 10:43am
dcrown

Where are all the Global Warming alarmists???

It’s a religion, not a science;
https://www.breitbart.com/news/despite-cold-balloons-fly-at-macys-thanksgiving-day-parade/
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November 23, 2018 10:44am
Sacha

Just thought I’d share.
Last week I had a couple of builders in to do some work in the house. One was a lanky, long curly haired young chap with a ready smile and a laconic air about him.
We got chatting at smoko. He said he was flatting because he couldn’t afford to buy a house.
So I said: go to the bank; see what you can borrow; how much deposit etc; get your foot on the lowest rung of the ladder – even if in the unlikely event that the bottom falls out of the housing market FOREVER, you will have a roof to put over your head. There might even be another housing boom, and then you’ll make a packet. There are always people trying to get in at the bottom of the market.
He made no comment, maybe looked at me a bit disbelievingly.
It rained Monday/Tuesday. On Wednesday they came to finish the job. He had been to the bank on Monday got the advice, did the paperwork, and got approval for a mortgage, and was delighted to tell me that he only needed to save another 10k or so and he could buy a small cottage with a garden, or a sort of decent 2br semi. (he’d been looking already)
Was I pleased, or what?
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November 23, 2018 10:44am
- Tall Man
  
  “Good job that man”
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:07am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  And if interest rates don’t go up, he’ll be able to afford the repayments.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:43am
  - Colville
    
    5 years fixed at 5.09% is still wayyyyyyy cheap.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  And in a couple of years some enterprising young women will take it from him in a relationship breakup. #alwayslookonthebrightside
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:30pm
- MickMac
  
  excellent.
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:36pm
freethinker

Just read on Stuff that the intellectual/financial Pygmy Cullen is pushing CGT on small business with a common valuation day.What a brilliant idea added to tax at say 99% of any gain and Liebour, Greens & Winston last will rocket into oblivion, bring it on arsehole. Perhaps you could make it retrospective to Komrades Klarks first administration, after all you have set a precedent with legalizing theft of tax payers cash.
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November 23, 2018 10:47am
- alex Masterley
  
  If CGT is imposed on the value of SMT’s it will be a shambles. And having a common valuation day? WTF. what unmitigated stupidity.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:02am
  - VicParking
    
    Make it 28 July 1914.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:10am
- Poppa
  
  Have you noticed that the media are quietly softening us up to CGT. They must have had a directive from Labour HQ to test the water
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:06am
  - Tall Man
    
    Can I help them by holding their heads under that water?
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:08am
- KevOB
  
  Has Cullen ever done a share valuation or valuation of a small private business?
  Does Cullen know what an objection to an assessment is?
  Does Cullen know what an expert witness does?
  Does Cullen know that revenue is an annual event and requires certainty both for the Crown and for the Taxpayers?
  
  Has Cullen ever implemented an actual tax system?
  
  I have.
  
  Cullen as a consultant is not worth threepence (2c) an hour.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:25am
  - Colinxy
    
    The CoL through the Tax Working Group want to inflict more pain on NZers.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108796278/capital-gains-tax-valuation-day-will-cost-kiwi-businesses-billions-of-dollars?fbclid=IwAR2GpjNGkhIhV_LdE8NGCWAAUk7jaTa9WdRg8mrNkBrmVwo2p42TEGK_QF0
    
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    November 23, 2018 12:21pm
    - KevOB
      
      Let them go full COl ahead. Sometimes govts or pretenders need to meet reality as in France c. 1793.
      
      Troy Bowker is correct. Further, get two valuers and neither will give the same number. The tax administration may rightly have a third valuation. Lawyers have their peculiar viewpoints too. Any suggestion that the taxpayers will have to pay for compulsory revenue valuations will see workers in the streets.
      
      How is it possible not to have an endless procession through the review legal processes in the proposed Mickey Mouse CG taxes? Tax cases can take years to settle. Does the COL want timely annual revenue or just to provide work for the accounting-legal-admin classes?
      
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      November 23, 2018 1:37pm
- artemisia
  
  My take on CGT is this. We know there is serious division on CGT in the tax working group. CGT is complicated especially as exemptions start piling up. We also know, from recent history that CGT is hard to get voter buy in and becomes electoral poison. Cullen and the government need to save face.
  
  Put all that together and the cynics among us might think the government has quietly told the TWG to make sure their CGT proposal is a split decision, complicated to design and legislate, produce little revenue in the short and even medium term and expensive to implement.
  
  The government quietly forgets about it.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:35am
  - Surely Knott
    
    So if you take a financial risk and build a business, your income is uncertain you win and take losses, you pay tax, take on employees, export and build the country then at the end you pay for what you build with a cgt. But if you get a sweet job in government or as a government bureaucrat or adviser or working group director or some such. And you spend all your money on lawnmowers and maseratis holidays and fancy restaurants then no cgt tax.
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:42am
  - KevOB
    
    That could be be an elegant way of exiting that episode of their stupidity.
    
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    November 23, 2018 3:09pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I hope they run with this. Surely there are enough people who can see what a huge disincentive this is for entrepreneurs, tradies and innovators. If this doesn’t galvanise support for a centre right alternative the we are probably stuffed in the medium term regardless.
  
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  November 23, 2018 12:10pm
- hullkiwi
  
  What part of Mike Moore’s mantra, “we need to make the economic pie bigger” did Cullen not understand?
  
  Taxing the same groups of people more & more in the end will be counterproductive.
  
  Has nobody told him:
  1. You will get less tax, as people become inventive with their financial arrangements to avoid the tax;
  2. People will become less productive with the attitude of why bother if all we’re doing is paying it to the government;
  3. CGT will reduce investment so it is an own goal.
  
  So, when are we going to get a government that does a proper review of government income and spending and ask do we really have a sustainable govt for NZ Ltd.
  
  It is time we Kiwis are honest with ourselves & each other – else we will continue with the BS that we don’t have to do anything with govt spending, because there is always some more tax Kiwis can pay.
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:36pm
- MickMac
  
  Either the team are moronic or ideologists, not common sense between them.
  I wouldn’t sign my name to it.
  
  Crush the producers?
  It’s not as it it’s going to make FB etc cough up, just screw the small businesses.
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:38pm
Odakyu-sen

Japan is struggling with the issue of bringing in more workers to plug up the labor shortage in “DDD jobs.”
DDD = Dirty, Dangerous, Difficult
In Japan these are known instead as “KKK jobs,” kibishii (hard), kiken (dangerous), kitanai (dirty) jobs.

See clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju5FGMwUlz0

The Japanese Communist Party and Socialist Party should oppose Prime Minister Abe’s plans, since this will depress wages in Japan and hurt the workers.
(The Communists, being internationalists, are probably all for the idea.)
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November 23, 2018 11:01am
- KevOB
  
  That was once readily provided here by Kiwis. They were paid substantially more for personal physical work, dangerous or unpleasant circumstances.
  
  When everyone is equal no one gains.
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:46pm
  - stephieboy
    
    KevOB, when fairness and justice prevails throughout the and it is a big win, win for most barring, of course, the 0.00001% like you.
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:33pm
    - KevOB
      
      Are you putting down more pay for workers in unpleasant jobs or undesirable hours?
      
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      November 23, 2018 3:12pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Kev far be it for me to argue Stephiegirl’s case, but in our society in which everybody specializes, there will always be jobs most people will not want to do.
        
        You have three alternatives, being:
        1. Do it yourself;
        2. Pay someone else a fair wage to do it; or
        3. Leave the job undone.
        
        If you chose option 3, and the matter becomes of public health e.g. Paris frequently experiences rubbish strikes. Eventually, the city authority backs down. It is blackmail, but usually both sides are as guilty of playing politics with such situations.
        
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        November 23, 2018 3:48pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Yes, coal miners as an example.
    
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    November 23, 2018 7:02pm
alloytoo

What amazes me is how much Political capital Ardern is wasting on this. (and frankly she doesn’t have much to waste)
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November 23, 2018 11:04am
- sooty
  
  Not if you read between the lines!
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:22am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    https://tinyurl.com/ydg6d8x3
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:33pm
tedbear

Low-lying Vanuatu is considering suing fossil fuel companies and industrialised countries that use them for their role in creating catastrophic climate change, the foreign minister of the Pacific island nation said on Thursday.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-low-lying-vanuatu-seeking-to-sue-climate-change-culprits/
Vanuatu, with an estimated population of 280,000 people spread across roughly 80 islands, is among more than a dozen Pacific island nations that already face rising sea levels and more regular storms that can wipe out much of their economies.

Foreign Minister Ralph Regenvanu said it was time that some of the billions of dollars of profits fossil fuel companies generate every year goes towards the damage they cause in countries like “desperate” Vanuatu.

“This is really about claiming for the damages,” he told Reuters in an interview.

I do have to wonder at the intelligence of these people.
In which year did these desperate people stop aircraft coming and going from Vanuatu airport?
In which year did these desperate people ban all forms of transport powered by diesel and petrol?

Just watch Princess Ardern chip in a few more $millions.
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November 23, 2018 11:17am
- sooty
  
  Easily fixed. Just don’t sell anymore fuel!
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  No evidence that the sea-level is rising at Port Vila
  http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/1841.php
  
  The problem Vanuatu has is the same that is found throughout the PI nations.. population increase. (2.1% /yr)
  
  Fertility rate of women in Vanuatu is 3.3 births/women.
  
  Population at Independence (1980) was 115,632
  Population now – 284,000
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:39am
  - KevOB
    
    Agreed. In Kirbati too the excessive population has led to the atoll being physically compressed.
    
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    November 23, 2018 12:10pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, maybe you and Brietbart’s James Delingpole etc might like to mobilise a mass sterilising campaign for Port Vila and Vanuatu?
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:20pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      No, but one for idiots like you would be something I could go with…
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:47pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Not at all, stephieboy.
      
      Why do you always spout Nazi nonsense?
      
      The Green ideal is 2 children/family.
      Replacement population only.
      That is the ecologically sensible solution to out-of-control human population growth.
      
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      November 23, 2018 3:12pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        There is no problem with population growth anywhere outside of 3rd world shitholes.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_rate#/media/File:Countries_by_Birth_Rate_in_2017.svg
        
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        November 23, 2018 8:22pm
    - MickMac
      
      What a good idea Stephie
      
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      November 23, 2018 3:46pm
- artemisia
  
  Was’t there some recent research from Auckland Uni that showed some Pacific islands are actually rising. Tuvalu I think.
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/tuvalu/7799503/Pacific-islands-growing-not-shrinking-due-to-climate-change.html
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      and a more recent paper from the Auckland Uni folk
      
      Patterns of island change and persistence offer alternate adaptation pathways for atoll nations
      
      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02954-1
      
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      November 23, 2018 12:01pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, rebutted here with the latest,
      
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/07/26/feature/this-is-what-happens-when-climate-change-forces-an-entire-country-to-seek-higher-ground/?utm_term=.0f7e74dcf921
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        rebutted here with the latest,
        I read the Washington Post article you posted.
        
        I was unable to locate one scrap of geophysical evidence in that article.
        
        You really need to learn the difference between a scientific paper based on observations and a speculative opinion piece.
        
        Kench’s work has not been refuted.
        
        The Chinese don’t seem bothered about rising sea-levels in the Maldives: They are building ports, airports, hotels aplenty there.
        https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2165597/why-are-china-and-india-so-interested-maldives
        
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        November 23, 2018 2:40pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘You really need to learn ‘
        Good luck with that!
        Stephieboy- Kiwiblogs Dumbest Commentator
        
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        November 23, 2018 2:43pm
- howitis
  
  Put that guy on 7 Days
  He is a real comedian unlike the bunch of depression-affected DJs that slobber about on the highly scripted tax-payer funded 7Days now.
  
  Vanuatu got independence in 1980 and has been on the bludge ever since. It was jointly administered by France and Britain before that and Australia has stepped in since as the Friendly Rich Uncle.
  I guess the current chiefs were smoking in the bike sheds when they taught the meaning of ‘independence’ at skool that day.
  
  Sustainability. Let’s examine that.
  In the last 60 plus years when these places had cyclones that wipe out half the population there was natural restraint on consumption of resources.
  Now when there is a problem the evil whitey flies in supplies on the big fossil fuel burning bird.
  Vanuatu adds in volcanoes and earthquakes to its natural woes. It’s still just nature, Bro!
  
  Independence.
  It’s just a word.
  I’ve been to Vanuatu. Once. They are a pack of lazy buggers. Give me Fiji any day.
  
  PS. should we have a look at their ‘interesting’ banking system if they want to take this route?
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:40pm
secondcumming

This is the sort of overseas client a *Hunting Guide* dreams of !!

An attractive blonde that brings her own SLR…… and a sex-toy 😎

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1065485056930664448
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November 23, 2018 11:30am
Jack5

Transgender activitists are encountering resistance from women.

In Britain, a Welsh Conservative MP has made an unlikely alliance with Leftist feminist groups on the issue.

The Telegraph has an article on the emerging transgender debate. Most of it is behind the pay wall, but you if you’re interested enough you can register for free to read it:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/22/must-not-silence-debate-transgenderism-fear-offending-activists/
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November 23, 2018 11:35am
- Jack5
  
  Red Radio’s getting into transgender mode with this item on its web site – about a “gay and genderqueer” entertainer’s new single called Pussy is God. ?
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/nat-music/audio/2018670657/king-princess-on-pussy-is-god
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:55am
  - kowtow
    
    Touring the world ?
    
    Like fuck , doubt there’ll be any ‘gigs’ in such enlightened places as Riyadh or Islamabad , and even though the Afghans are into bacha bazi ,I’d guess Kabul is off the menu too.
    
    As to Pussy is God , yawn , they can get back to me when she and RNZ run one on Allah ……..
    
    …….didn’t think so.
    
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    November 23, 2018 1:01pm
EAD_TWO

What happened to Reality Czech?
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November 23, 2018 11:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Has had to go undercover…
  (read between the lines)
  
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  November 23, 2018 11:42am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Gotcha – looks like he is coming to the end of his time in the sinbin so we might see him soon…..
    
    Some interesting names on the strike out list❗
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
    
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    November 23, 2018 11:52am
    - alex Masterley
      
      One or two that I did not expect to see.
      I think in particular squirrels will be flying again after the 1st of February 2019.
      
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      November 23, 2018 12:24pm
    - mandk
      
      The more interesting question is what will happen when Reality Czech gets to his/her 9th strike, as can be guaranteed to happen.
      
      Will there be another regeneration, allowing him/her to come back for a third time?
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:00pm
      - Cobolt24
        
        It’ll be RealityCzech2 possibly…
        
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        November 23, 2018 2:06pm
Viking2

Jacinda is about today trying out trains for the new Auckland line.
Horrible women is attempting to get kudos from the Kaikora earthquake by riding the first Tourist tyain back to CHCH.
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November 23, 2018 12:21pm
- Woz
  
  Damn! Missed the news. Coulda put some dynamite on the line. LOTS of dynamite.
  
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  November 23, 2018 4:52pm
Biscuit

How nice of the ‘Horrid’.

Today they are hitting us with a fluff piece entitled ‘Behind the Headlines: Meet the Herald’s journalists’:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12164707

‘Personality news’, groan…

No idea why but they genuinely seem to think I care much how Sports editor at large Dylan Cleaver, senior writer Simon Wilson, editorial director for business Fran O’Sullivan, political editor Audrey Young and cartoonist Rod Emmerson look.

Except the ‘look’ part is a bit of a misnomer because the pictorial accompaniment is … cartoons of the quintet by Rod Emmerson.

Whatever next?

* A ‘One News’-style summary, every 10 pages, of what we’ve read a few minutes earlier but just might’ve forgotten
* ‘And now the Weather from Mandy’?
* ‘Coming up on Page 21, Sport by Roger’?
* ‘And on Pages 5 through 14, our political team take an in-depth look at just how positively New Zealand has been affected by Baby Neve’?
* ‘On Page 30, today’s ‘The Sky Is Falling’ anti-All Blacks story from Reason/Rattue/fill in self-important journo’s name of your choice
* A story, an ‘EXCLUSIVE” naturally, on how the children of our luminary journalists are coping with the (well-deserved) fame of their parents?
* Us being proper journalists and producing a well-researched story taking the CoL to account for its numerous deficiencies oooh I almost typed that last one out without laughing
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November 23, 2018 12:47pm
- MrTips
  
  Dirty laundry sells!
  
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  November 23, 2018 12:57pm
Longknives

Apologies if this has been posted before but-

Why are TVNZ humouring this mentally ill Trainwreck?

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-remarkable-journey-parenthood-dunedin-dad-expecting-give-birth

*Also I note Jeremy Wells claiming that 1% of New Zealanders are Transgender.
Stuff claimed 2% the other day.
Another recent article someone linked to claimed 4%!….

Enough of the Bullshit NZ Media!!!
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November 23, 2018 1:10pm
- graham
  
  Longknives, I see the article makes this astounding statement:
  
  “This birth really is a Christmas miracle – given that Scout is not a woman.”
  
  Do they REALLY think that if they spout this nonsense long enough they will actually succeed in redefining human biology?
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:57pm
  - Longknives
    
    I’m pretty damned sure Scout IS a woman…Seeing as she is fucking Pregnant!
    
    Unless every Scientist in Human History has been getting it wrong?..
    
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    November 23, 2018 4:46pm
kowtow

The SCMP running stories on China’s opening up under Deng.

40 years.

“Mainland China’s officials found themselves on a steep learning curve after paramount leader Deng Xiaoping announced his vision of reform and opening up in 1978. Suddenly, they had to find out about everything from market economics to law, finance and how to run a land auction. Through the 1980s, a steady stream of Hong Kong lawyers, engineers and other professionals made their way to the mainland to share their expertise and contribute to the transformation of China”

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/2174174/torn-mosquito-nets-cockroaches-shenzhen-hong-kong-engineer
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November 23, 2018 1:25pm
DigNap15

I see one of lovely Indian immigrants has been under paying his staff in Nelson vineyards.

He charged them thousands to get residency and job, then underpaid them.
Under cut other legitimate businesses and he gets 300 hours community service and has to pay lost wages.

What about the thousands he underpaid in PAYE etc.
‘Where is the punishment?
Where is the disincentive to others.

Andrew Little – our justice system sucks.
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November 23, 2018 1:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like Vanuatu has more to worry about than whether their islands are disappearing
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/376647/bangladeshi-couple-in-custody-on-slavery-and-trafficking-charges
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:25pm
  - Jack5
    
    We bring in seasonal workers from Vanuatu for harvesting and so on, and Vanuatu is bringing in Bangladeshi people?
    
    Who do the Bangladeshis bring into their country? Rohingya Muslims. I wonder if they will show up in our orchards?
    
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    November 23, 2018 4:41pm
- MickMac
  
  No, Andrew Little you suck!
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:49pm
Cobolt24

Net migration at its slowest pace since September 2015

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/97012/population-growth-migration-continuing-decline-remained-above-60000-year-october

I hope it goes down to a more sustainable level.
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November 23, 2018 1:26pm
- DigNap15
  
  I hope it goes down to no muslims and no indian students or indian restaurant owners, or orchard contractors or africans.
  
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  November 23, 2018 4:50pm
Komata

Muttonbird @1246.

Re: ‘Sroubek’s ex has shacked up with a National backed local body candidate and National Party member. Not hard to follow that trail’.

Times? Places? Sources? Names? If you can’t provide these ‘verifications’ in support of your statement, then all you’ve written is false and possibly even liableous, perhaps even to our host.

Tread carefully, legally you may well be on dangerous ground.
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November 23, 2018 1:40pm
- stigie
  
  We do know where Muttonhead gets his dodgy information from….?
  
  The Stranded !~
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:55pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Well, is Mark Davey the new partner of Sroubek’s ex-wife? That’s the only question which needs to be answered.
  
  If it is not the same Mark Davey who ran for Auckland Future on the 2016 Waitemata local board ticket, then I withdraw.
  
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  November 23, 2018 1:57pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hey Meathead
    How was Arderns dinner with Mike Pence?
    lol
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:00pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      That downtick suggests it didn’t work out quite as advertised.
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:14pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      “Waiter, could you please go to the big table in the next building and ask Vice President Pence if I can get him a battered sausage with a stick shoved up its arse.”
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:18pm
    - Longknives
      
      Those in the know tell me that dreadful classless Ardern woman slurps and slops her food with those giant gnashers like a horse!
      No wonder Pence didn’t want her anywhere near him..
      
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      November 23, 2018 4:17pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        … you mean, kind of like Edward Scissorhands – but using teeth?
        
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        November 23, 2018 6:17pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        … in fact that’s done it for me now. All I can see is a demented Teppanyaki chef flailing away with giant porcelain choppers …
        
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        November 23, 2018 6:24pm
  - graham
    
    Well, is Mark Davey the new partner of Sroubek’s ex-wife?
    
    I don’t know, is he?
    
    You’re the one making the claim, surely you have some verifiable evidence.
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:00pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    is Mark Davey the new partner of Sroubek’s ex-wife?
    
    Well, I certainly hope so. This promises a lot of fun. For you? Not so much.
    
    Are you going to send the minders around?
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:11pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Woa! Touchy.
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:15pm
  - Komata
    
    Muttonbird
    
    Re: ‘Well, is Mark Davey the new partner of Sroubek’s ex-wife? That’s the only question which needs to be answered.
    
    If it is not the same Mark Davey who ran for Auckland Future on the 2016 Waitemata local board ticket, then I withdraw’.
    
    Umm, actually, it’s not US who have to answer that question! IT’S YOU!
    
    YOU made the allegations and cast the asppertions, and have now added additional details to your orignal claim.
    
    Apparently without corroborating evidence
    
    On that basis it is now YOU that has to provide confirmation that what you have alleged is the case.
    
    KB readers don’t have to; and if you now believe that by merely stating that you ‘…Will withdraw if that is not in fact the case’ (and if my somewhat limited understanding of NZ’d Libel laws is correct), that statement will not in fact get you off the hook you have impaled yourself on.
    
    (Perhaps our resident law experts can confirm this?)
    
    YOU have made a PUBLIC allegation. YOU have added additonal information in support of said PUBLIC allegation; you have now effectively SLANDERED two individuals.
    
    I would suggest that you may have to start looking for a lawyer; one who specialises in libel cases, cause you seem to have put yourself in it right up to your neck!!
    
    And NO, this is NOT DPF’s problem; ’tis all yours, created by only YOU!!
    
    Could be interesting…
    
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    November 23, 2018 2:25pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      What on earth are you babbling about? If the host thinks what I said is libel then it’s his right to take it down. Not sure Mr Davey and Mrs Sroubek can protest at what I’ve said…
      
      Anyway Sroubek’s own mother says the ex is in a relationship with a National Party person. Hence the reason it became political.
      
      Are they going to sue her as well? Hell, let’s sue everyone!
      
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      November 23, 2018 2:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @muttonbird
        You need to produce evidence that Mrs Sroubek has accepted payment from the National Party for providing information.
        That is what you claimed on KB at 10:49am.
        
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        November 23, 2018 3:19pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  But an ‘and what’?
  
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  November 23, 2018 7:21pm
RW Capitalist

I hear the our SLG, was on board for the first passenger train to Christchurch, from Picton.
Agian
Claiming kudos for work not her own.
The NATIONAL govt. facilitated the rebuilding of this transport corridor, in just one year!
Labour/SLG had absolutely nothing to do with it.
But there she is, smiling and vicariously taking credit.
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November 23, 2018 1:56pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Sheesh
  Is she ever going to do any work?
  Laziest Prime Minister evah
  
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  November 23, 2018 2:01pm
- Poppa
  
  She can’t take any credit for the work she has done, she hasn’t done any
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:05pm
Chuck Bird

Excellent article by Matthew Hooton except for his comment about President Trump.

Matthew Hooton: China v US puts NZ on the spot

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12164747&fbclid=IwAR0iNj3EJAPiS4J9gZ_Ax4MXowRN9ww9-ci-yeLZBQ3VuZAs245knxHSnq0
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November 23, 2018 2:10pm
- Jack5
  
  A good article by Matthew Hooton, Chuck. Thank you for linking to it.
  
  ? Ahoy Tall Man! Read the Hooton article and then dare to write it off as xenophobic.
  
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  November 23, 2018 2:20pm
- Jazzby
  
  The Chinese are neither philanthropic nor sentimental: they are hard-nosed rational maximisers, who will do whatever it takes to further their own interests. Scruples don’t come into it, and they will unhesitatingly stamp on anyone who gets in their way.
  Their present strategy is to use soft power to economically enslave small nations such as ours; then, when the time comes, they will back it up with hard (military) might. The signs of preparation are all there in the South China Sea.
  Don’t be fooled by the handshakes and smiles: a crocodile will grin at you whilst biting off your leg.
  No, I’m not xenophobic – just a realist.
  
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  November 23, 2018 4:43pm
  - Inandout
    
    Well Jazz, thank goodness we have Trump negotiating instead of Hillary.
    
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    November 23, 2018 8:06pm
Andrei

Bye bye bitcoin – all that money and electricity down the toilet

As they say “a fool and his money…”
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November 23, 2018 2:28pm
- Jules99
  
  LOL, a screaming buy right now.
  
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  November 23, 2018 3:35pm
  - Andrei
    
    Seems sound advice
    
    $4,164.86
    BITCOIN PRICE
    
    −$2,240.10
    SINCE LAST MONTH (USD)
    
    −34.97%
    
    or not as the case maybe
    
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    November 23, 2018 3:48pm
secondcumming

Bet nobody else knew this……. 😎

What word becomes shorter when you add 2 letters to it?

Short.
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November 23, 2018 2:45pm
Felt

Costing the Clowns:
1. $2.8B free fees
2. $3.0B Regional Fund – and we all know that we will get zero return
3. $975M MFAT
4. $28B Oil and Gas (I would like to see a total cost of this including the damage to Taranaki’s economy
5. $35M Pike River -and we all know it will cost more
6. $xM Cindy’s pacific Island lolly scramble
7. $20M Cindy’s PNG Visit and donation to womans market etc
8. $2B Kiwibuild
9. $xB Train set
10 ……

I am sure there are many many more costs that could be added. Is Joe public aware of the total wastage of our money? This is considerably more than the cost of the Chch rebuild and totally man-made (socialist-made)
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November 23, 2018 3:49pm
- mandk
  
  Kiwibuild cost has been put at $18B
  
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  November 23, 2018 4:53pm
Longknives

Jeesus! This is fucking scary.
Any vexatious or mentally ill complainant could make a malicious/false allegation and then sit there smirking as you get put inside-

“The Government is considering banning defence lawyers from cross-examining complainants in sexual violence cases, saying the courts can “further victimise” them..”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108649370/minister-cautions-defence-force-against-unreasonably-chasing-sex-victim-for-costs
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November 23, 2018 4:35pm
- kowtow
  
  That’s what you get when stupid people get the vote .
  
  A gubmint whose members don’t understand the basics of our constitution .
  
  And yes , that is very scary.
  
  Front page stuff. But the media won’t crucify these fascists , they helped to anoint them.
  
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  November 23, 2018 5:31pm
- Inandout
  
  Reminds me of the time ACC paid out millions to those women ‘victims’ who suddenly remembered a troubled past. They probably recalled the way Maoris scalped the taxpayer over Treaty claims, and learnt accordingly.
  
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  November 23, 2018 8:03pm
Jack5

Long past time to privatise Red Radio….

On the National channel's The Panel today, the host was Wallace Chapman, standing in for Gentleman Jim Mora.

Chapman brought in the sickening virtue-signaller, Andrew Judd, a former Taranaki mayor, to comment on the blackface float in a Taranaki parade.

Like someone giving personal testimony at a born-again service, Judd repeated his description of himself as a “recovering racist” and talked of his “personal journey” and how he unravelled himself from “our colonial past.”

Yuck! Put me off listening to the rest of The Panel’s session.
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November 23, 2018 4:36pm
- kowtow
  
  Yesterday Chapperson was saying how draconian the beggar law in where ever is .
  
  Bollocks , the law doesn’t go far enough ,begging bums should be run out of town altogether.
  
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  November 23, 2018 5:20pm
- Inandout
  
  Was speaking with a person from Hawera who described the publicity as a fucking joke. If Hone was to show his face in that town he would be history, notwithstanding they describe his northern tribe as ‘rubbish people’.
  
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  November 23, 2018 7:59pm
Woz

Did anybody watch the crazy woman who had her tits cut off and then got pregnant being interviewed by the singing bull dyke on Seven Sharp last night? I couldn’t bring myself to watch it, but I admit to a morbid curiosity about what the creature had to say for itself, and was hoping somebody here had taken one for the team.

Seven Sharp is otherwise dead to me. It has been hijacked by the lesbians and handed to the stupid, with producer Natasha Utting grossly misappropriating it as a vehicle for her ghastly, vulgar spouse; and the asinine Hilary Barry (whose hairdo always makes me think of John Merrick, the Elephant Man) having thrown the last pretense to intelligent discourse out the door at Mike Hosking’s retreating back.
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November 23, 2018 4:46pm
- Longknives
  
  “Crazy” is an understatement Woz!
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/cops-call-activist-over-tpp-protest-plans
  
  https://gayexpress.co.nz/2016/09/scout-barbour-evans-takatapui-student-runs-dunedin-council-mayor/
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/share-your-news-and-views/13595388/Time-for-a-transgender-education-NZ
  
  She certainly loves the attention does our Scout!
  It astounds me that TVNZ are humouring her by calling her baby a ‘Christmas Miracle’etc….
  
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  November 23, 2018 5:00pm
Felt

Seems Slater is required to answer some more questions about some dirty politics:

PS: Golly G is having a dig at Slater also.

Palmer J has just released a judgement requiring Cameron Slater and Carrick Graham to front up to court to answer questions about how they allegedly carried out Dirty Politics hits as, in legal terms, “liar, liar … their pants are on fire”: https://bit.ly/2R5DmWn
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November 23, 2018 6:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Seems Ozzies are the richest folk in the World
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-23/australia-tops-median-wealth-per-adult-list/10518082
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November 23, 2018 6:27pm
- Johnboy
  
  Only if they own banks in NZ Maggy! 🙂
  
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  November 23, 2018 6:48pm
- Inandout
  
  Rich Aussies help keep unemployed migrants in the lifestyle and welfare that they feel entitled to.
  
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  November 23, 2018 7:55pm
RF

Dear God.

Ardern is the minister of everything.

I hear that her MPs holding portfolios are no longer permitted to make good news policy announcements so Ardern can make them.

She craves publicity…. how shallow.

Cindy the liar, Jethro the fool.
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November 23, 2018 6:45pm
- Longknives
  
  RF
  I have a mate who works in her ‘Realm’.
  He reports the ego has been out of control since ‘Jacindamania’! And that contrary to popular belief- She is a rather short tempered, unpleasant individual (Not his exact words but I think I would get banned if I repeated what he calls her…)
  
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  November 23, 2018 7:05pm
  - Felt
    
    I have heard that if her highness does not get what she wants, the child within her throws her toys. There does seem to be more stories surfacing in a similar vein to this. Maybe one day she will do it in public.
    
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    November 23, 2018 7:25pm
    - nasska
      
      Look on the bright side. It’s the lacklustre Labour Party politicians & those desperate enough for employment to work for them who will endure her outbursts.
      
      Yet the best part is that they can’t get rid of her. There’s simply no one else who could step into the role & have an iceberg’s chance in Hell of leading the pack of losers into an undeserved 2020 win.
      
      Suffer you bastards! Suffer! 🙂
      
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      November 23, 2018 7:35pm
Johnboy

Buggerme! CRL is doomed! It’s bein organised by a fukin Oirishman begorrah!! 🙂

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/business-top-stories/108813253/city-rail-link-boss-negotiated-rcr-tomlinson-deal-during-trading-halt
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November 23, 2018 6:46pm
Niz

When is that report on the disgrace that is Massey University’s administration and the shutdown of Don Brash due out? Wasn’t it meant to be mid-November?
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November 23, 2018 6:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Meant to be at the end of this month…..
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/107644391/Massey-council-launches-review-into-cancellation-of-Don-Brash-speech
  but the review is for the Massey Uni Council….. nothing to indicate that it is for the tax-paying hoi-polloi.
  
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  November 23, 2018 7:11pm
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    Wiggles is surely the highest expression of the female condition. Loyal, sorted, genuine and super smart.
    
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    November 23, 2018 9:24pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Your Cheque is in the post
      
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      November 23, 2018 9:55pm
stigie

Are you back from cleaning the naughty step with a tooth brush RC..?
Good to see you back !~
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NEW ZEALAND (Housing Minister) Phil Twyford unveils new Housing and Urban Development Authority | Newshub
… extensive video interview ‘Newshub Nation’ included …

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/11/phil-twyford-unveils-new-housing-and-urban-development-authority.html

The Housing Minister says the new agency will act “in partnership” with local iwi, councils and the private sector.

The agency will also contain Housing New Zealand subsidiary HLC, becoming the Government’s primary provider for housing.

The minister was quick to assure that the transition would be smooth for existing social housing New Zealand tenants. … read more via hyperlink above …

Phil Twyford progresses Nick Smith’s plans to give central government the power cut through local planning rules to develop major urban housing projects | interest.co.nz
… access facts sheet …

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/97048/phil-twyford-progresses-nick-smiths-plans-give-central-government-power-cut-through

Ministry of Housing and Urban Development

https://www.hud.govt.nz/
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New Zealand Issues Monitor IPSOS (September) – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow

Major infrastructure partnership for North Auckland | Housing | Minister Phil Twyford | Beehive.govt.nz

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/major-infrastructure-partnership-north-auckland

New infrastructure financing scheme a major step forward … Infrastructure New Zealand

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1811/S00391/new-infrastructure-financing-scheme-a-major-step-forward.htm
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How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
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Urban Development Authority a long overdue initiative … Auckland Business Chamber of Commerce | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1808/S00741/urban-development-authority-a-long-overdue-initiative.htm
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Mike Hosking (Popular Conservative Commentator): Housing Minister Phil Twyford right to bulldoze his way through councils – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12118208
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… August 2018 …

Reality check for Ministers (really some … just some … asleep enviros) at environment conference | Politik

http://politik.co.nz/en/content/Environment/1400/Reality-check-for-Ministers-at-environment-conference-Environmental-Defence-Society-Gary-Taylor-Phil-Twyford-David-Parker-RMA.htm

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Speech from the throne pledges that Auckland’s urban limit will be removed and density controls will be freed up in this term of Government … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/90780/speech-throne-pledges-aucklands-urban-limit-will-be-removed-and-density-controls-will
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… 2 plus years ago … May 2016 …

Labour, National both tell council Auckland city growth limits should be abolished | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80113578/labour-auckland-city-growth-limits-should-be-abolished?rm=m
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