General Debate 17 November 2018

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Northland Wahine

Given you’re a convicted fraudster, I won’t be taking your opinion onboard, Alex Swney.

http://nzh.tw/12161233
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November 17, 2018 8:03am
- MrTips
  
  Client perhaps?
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:13am
- Gravelroad
  
  Mr Swney is a trivial popinjay.
  (Apologies to those unfamiliar with the words “trivial” and “popinjay” and who may find these terms a cause of anxiety and outrage).
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:24am
  - adamsmith1922
    
    I understand the Human Rights Commission has set up a working group to consider whether blogs should be required to provide virtual ‘safe spaces’. my submission argued that those requiring such ‘safe spaces’ effectively had closed minds, so the proposal was unnecessary. Unfortunately, I forgot I was dealing with the Human Rights Commission who totally ignored me.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:40am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I believe that popinjay is the word for anal sex
    in the shower in the big house.
    
    Big house is not you neighbours but it may be and they may be popinjays as well
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:55am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    They can always get a Petition going.
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:30am
    - sooty
      
      Alex Sweny is now the local agent for lawnmowers. He will easily accomondate your every need!
      
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      November 17, 2018 12:48pm
- Surely Knott
  
  “We have now seen his mother reveal how her son’s marriage has failed. Despite getting married only six months prior to his sentencing Karel’s marriage ended. It’s easy to understand how this happens and we have to have sympathy for the INNOCENT family of prisoners – they pay a huge price.” I love the spin on the innocent family. The mother is named all through the court summary as the person who partnered with Sroubek . She was the contact in Czech that was accused sending the packages including the fake seal for the drugs package. The mothers history was not covered in Lisa Owens biased reporting .
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:29am
  - Swifty
    
    The testimony of a mother is entirely unhelpful and some would say meaningless.
    
    Someone more conflicted would be hard to find.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:32am
  - kowtow
    
    Society is told that it must have sympathy for prisoners’ families.
    
    When the message gets across , if it is ever even put these so progressive days , that criminals need to consider the effects of their actions , not only on their direct victims , but also on their “loved ones”, we might just get to a point where we don’t need prisons.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:33am
    - Jules99
      
      You only have to watch that programme where the drugs dogs check out prison visitors to put that idea to bed.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:20am
      - sooty
        
        Would the marria be even legal under a false name? This may have something to do with it not lasting!
        
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        November 17, 2018 12:50pm
- KevOB
  
  This presents as a PR plant suggesting the COL were hiding Sroubek’s marriage problems.
  
  The stupidity of snowflakes is immeasurable but does that exceed the cost of the waste of political capital?
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:30am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Couldn’t agree more. The timing of the article and reference in it to the Pike River recovery is highly suspicious.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:54am
    - toby1845
      
      I agree, although I suspect you mean ‘Pike River re-entry’. There won’t be any recovery.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:11am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        Dustpan and brush.
        
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        November 17, 2018 11:32am
      - sooty
        
        Unless someone made beyond the rockfall, there will not even be that.
        You can see why the little man is controling this. He can control the media releases, so it does not bite his arse!
        
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        November 17, 2018 12:53pm
- Swifty
  
  Swney completely glosses over the main point here.
  
  Ratbags and passport fraudsters should be booted out – to protect NZers and to protect the integrity of the NZ immigration system.
  
  The fact that he and the Hell’s Angels-associating drug dealer and robber seemingly got on well in the boob together is immaterial.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:39am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so. Judge Roy Wade gave Sroubek a second chance, and he wasted it when he CHOSE to import MDMA into New Zealand, presumably with the intention of selling it for his personal wealth.
    
    I’m all for second chances; goodness knows, people have taken a chance on me. But second chances are learning experiences too, and it seems the only things Sroubek learned from his were:
    
    1) selling drugs can make you wealthy, and
    2) New Zealand is a soft touch.
    
    Sorry Karel; you had your chance, and you blew it. No amount of faux sympathy can change that fact.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:53am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Sorry Keeping Stock but I think you will find lessons 1 and 2 still apply and Karel is staying.
      
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      November 17, 2018 8:59am
    - KevOB
      
      A second chance for a proven drug dealer is a second opportunity (or more).
      Sroubek is showing a gambling personality too so he takes what comes while he tries to dodge the bullets.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:14am
- artemisia
  
  Mr Sroubek is quite pretty. I decline to join any dots.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:56am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You mean we have to read between the lines?
    
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    November 17, 2018 10:44am
- Viking2
  
  Convicted and let off very lightly. Of course he is a socialist so are we surprised. No doubt the fisherman’s friend as well.
  Certainly would have mixed in the arty crowd of the previous Labour administration.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:37am
  - fernglas
    
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    Rubbish. He’s a mid-level drug dealer who spent his time doing MMA. He came nowhere near anybody of any political significance. Conspiracy theorists may be disappointed, but his reprieve came either because his life was at risk in the Czech Republic or because he was a good boy here. End of story.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:47am
    - MrTips
      
      Lol. Turn the Pg. New excuse needed autobot.
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:50am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Why would Please Gallopaway make such a secret of the real reason if what you say is true?
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:50am
    - KevOB
      
      Drug dealer’s live are always at risk.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:17am
    - michael_s2
      
      But he does have a good mate, fellow kick boxer, Richie Hardcore speaking up for him. And guess who Richie is besties with. Check Google for Hardcore, Ardern, Gayford and how many hits you get – and how many arms around shoulders pics.
      
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      November 17, 2018 5:17pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Hahaha ‘Fisherman’s Friend’….. that’s a very good description! Nice one.
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:01am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Good cough drops those Fisherman’s friends. 😉
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:13pm
- secondcumming
  
  As one of the guys from the gun-club just txt……..
  
  ‘this would be like getting Machine Gun Kelly to go referee for my E-endorsement’
  
  BOL!!
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:04am
- Morrissey
  
  Did somebody say “fraudster”?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2910957/Bill-English-buckles-over-housing-allowance
  
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  November 17, 2018 5:54pm
  - GoVege
    
    That’s different Morrissey.
    Catholics need the extra money because they don’t practise contraception..
    
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    November 18, 2018 6:07pm
mandk

Please make welcome the Gospel Plowboys and enjoy your Saturday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G66ThRLy9js
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November 17, 2018 8:04am
Manolo

Chasing Assange: https://apnews.com/4d2d1afb5fb545b1b4f526aed38f4cb5

The Justice Department inadvertently named Julian Assange in a court filing in an unrelated case, suggesting prosecutors have prepared charges against the WikiLeaks founder under seal.
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November 17, 2018 8:07am
- harvey wilson
  
  I doubt it was an accident, they are messing with him . The clowns that offered him asylum are sick of him and it’s become impossible to pretend that he and Wikileaks are nothing more than a conduit for Russian hackers .
  History is going to treat his supporters very harshly and deservedly so .
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:31am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Fair comment
    The thing is. What have Wikileaks ever been wrong about?
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:54am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red, lots,
      
      https://gizmodo.com/wikileaks-finally-admits-it-did-something-wrong-1786509965?IR=T
      
      and,
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/15/julian-assange-ecuador-london-embassy-how-he-became-unwelcome-guest
      
      KB;s thickest poster!
      
      LOL
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:58am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Jokes on you pervert boy
        I notice you’re a bit uptight today
        Wassa matter, mummy’s strap on break off?
        I see neither of your links prove Wiki has released incorrect information
        You’re the dumbass
        
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        November 17, 2018 10:05am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed , that does not excuse you from choosing to being thick!
        
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        November 17, 2018 10:09am
      - kowtow
        
        AOR
        
        The troll’s probably upset that even more Pakis are facing a short stay at Her Majesty’s pleasure for diddling with vulnerable white children.
        
        Ah, the diversity dividend , and our media are outraged at “black face” .
        
        Here’s the faces of diversity.
        
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6398857/Thirty-people-trial-alleged-child-abuse-Huddersfield.html
        
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        November 17, 2018 10:48am
    - harvey wilson
      
      All on red , thats fairly irrelevant isn’t it? They just dump info with out any giving a shit about whoever they dox .
      
      For example
      https://www.wired.com/2016/07/wikileaks-officially-lost-moral-high-ground/
      
      Scum , so are his supporters who have tied themselves in knots trying to excuse Assanges behaviour.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:07am
      - All_on_Red
        
        I’m not approving of how they do it.
        Just observing what they release and expose is accurate
        Assange is a narcissist
        
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        November 17, 2018 11:23am
      - Muttonbird
        
        They just dump info with out any giving a shit about whoever they dox
        
        That’s rich coming from you!
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:13pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hey Meat head
        Tell us about Jacindas dinner with Mike Pence!
        Lol
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:14pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, like Pence are you a believer in gay conversion therapy and other weird stuff
        
        https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-beliefs-about-abortion-gay-marriage-women-reporters-2017-6/?r=AU&IR=T/#pence-didnt-want-women-serving-in-the-military-he-wrote-in-a-1999-op-ed-that-mulan-was-liberal-propaganda-and-proof-that-women-in-the-military-doesnt-work-referring-to-her-love-interest-in-another-soldier-1
        
        I’ll bet the PM is now relieved not to have sat next to such a nut case!
        
        The company you keep
        
        LOL
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:38pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘Weird stuff’
        Hahahahahahahahaah
        This is from Ralph who attends a Church which is Anglican in the Catholic tradition and do stupid rituals like dress up in fancy cloaks, swings buckets of smoke when they enter the Church and pretend to eat and drink the body of a dead man
        Talk about lack of self awareness.
        Hey, you don’t like gays do you.
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:41pm
  - Nermal
    
    He should have come out earlier, Obama would’ve pardoned him like he did Chelsea Manning
    
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    November 17, 2018 1:13pm
    - harvey wilson
      
      Muttonbird , tut tut . I’m sure there’s a name for the psychological condition that drives people back to Internet forums where they are loathed .
      
      Take planet rugby for instance , you were despised there and banned three times yet you kept coming back under different logins . Why would a sane person do that? You post here yet there is nothing but contempt for you here. That’s very strange behaviour.
      
      What kind of person believes national sent someone to a labour youth camp to break the law and get a conviction to discredit labour .
      
      Step away from the keyboard, it’s obviously not good for your mental wellbeing .
      
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      November 17, 2018 5:37pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Democracy. Dontcha HATE it!
    
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    November 17, 2018 6:01pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Like Hamas hates Democracy?
      
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      November 17, 2018 6:05pm
    - harvey wilson
      
      What are you raving about Morrisey?
      
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      November 17, 2018 6:48pm
slightlyrighty

If anyone is going to Stan Lee’s funeral, be sure to stay to the very end……
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November 17, 2018 8:20am
- SGA
  
  If that’s original, it’s very good 🙂
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:28am
Monique Watson

I called my beloved Other a cunt At a Giants game.
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November 17, 2018 8:22am
- Biscuit
  
  Your stint in America is hardening you, Monique!
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:25am
- double d
  
  At 2-7 you must be feeling grumpy…..
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:10am
oldpark

Wonder what the far left Misandrists in the Lunatic Green Party will say when they find out that one of the highest paid persons’ in NZ is female. Yes top of the class for Bank of NZ top dog. How about almost circa a cool $3,800,000 per year. Shoots down the theory and whinges that women are not getting a fair suck of the Sav ,when they aspire to lead rather than whinge about hurty feelings with self pity of being underpaid rather than doing something about it.Well done that woman.
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November 17, 2018 8:24am
- DJ Ward
  
  Can you spot the difference in these people.
  
  Angie, B.Bus, GDip Applied finance, has been the Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) since January 1, 2018.
  
  Logie was born in Invercargill in 1969. She graduated from the University of Otago with a BA in politics and served as Women’s Coordinator for the New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations from 1993 to 1996. She lived and worked in Japan as an Assistant Language Teacher on the JET Programme. She has previously worked for Women’s Refuge, the Hutt Valley Youth Health Service, the New Zealand YWCA and the New Zealand Centre for Sustainable Cities.
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:49am
Manolo

Rightly so:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/nz-blocks-refugees-flying-here-on-holiday-visas-nauru-president/ar-BBPL9VV
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November 17, 2018 8:24am
Monique Watson

Yes he is.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12161233

A convicted criminal. Jacinda is soft on crime.
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November 17, 2018 8:31am
- Inandout
  
  Either she or her bed partner.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:55am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Is being a Yogi a skills category?
  
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  November 17, 2018 3:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

The detestable Garner lavishes praise on the equally detestable Angry Andy as the two of them continue to politicise Pike River.
When it all turns to shit and nothing is found they will run for the hills.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/108668718/little-a-hero-as-nats-run-for-the-hills-and-beyond
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November 17, 2018 8:32am
- Woz
  
  Little Andy is not a hero. It’s not willpower and perseverance behind this, but a guilty conscience and access to vast sums of public money. A dangerous combination.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:42am
  - Tricati
    
    So true Woz
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:59am
  - lilman
    
    Totally sick of little and the media ignoring the basic question in this fiasco.
    
    Why didnt the site rep for the UNION stop work when safety wasnt being addressed or at least discussed ?
    
    Why are some people,who were safety officers , not held to account for sending men into a mine that clearly as EVERYBODY says was unsafe?
    
    How could the UNION, run by ANDREW LITTLE, be allowed to take money every week from miners pay and not do their job in safe guarding their members?
    
    Why is LITTLE, who has a clear CONFLICT OF INTEREST, allow to be involved in the apparent collection of evidence for any future legal action?
    
    The whole thing is a joke, yet 29 men are dead and the UNION are exempt from any criticism or responsibility.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:07am
    - 3-coil
      
      Perfect summary lilman.
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:28am
    - freethinker
      
      Was Bernie Monk a safety officer at Pike River Mine?
      
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      November 17, 2018 3:45pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Garner would be a lot more credible if he spoke to Marion Curtin, and actually did some jounalistic work to find out how many more of the Pike River families share her disgust at the politicisation of their personal tragedy.
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/376023/mother-of-pike-river-victim-re-entry-plan-disgraceful
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:56am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Sorry KS, downtick by mistake.
    
    Garner is a pure populist, which is deliciously ironic. Totally unaware of it too.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:59am
    - Jazzby
      
      He’s also too dim to recognise his own stupidity.
      Lack of insight + low wattage brain = Dunning-Kruger at the bottom end.
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:13am
    - Gravelroad
      
      New job on way for Mr Garner.
      Option 1: Chief media advisor for Andrew Little.
      Option 2: safe Labour seat offer at next election.
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:16am
  - thedavincimode
    
    It’s a very sad situation KS. How can people get on with the grieving process when they have this constantly shoved in their faces by politicians and bernie fucking monk’s mission to stay in the limelight? The wishes of those who don’t want this to continue are completely ignored for the benefit of those who refuse to leave it alone and they suffer the additional indignity of being lumped in together with the monk brigade in the public eye. The prospect of bernie fucking monk ever perceiving the irony in his quest is about zilch I reckon.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:11am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      This comment by Ms Curtin was especially telling:
      
      Ms Curtin loathed the fact it had become so political. She said the months leading up to last year’s election were especially challenging.
      
      “Some people liked that… the politicians climbing on board. I certainly didn’t. That was my son’s death they were playing with.” she said.
      
      I think she’s talking about you Ms Ardern, Mr Little and Mr Peters. I hope you’re proud.
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:22am
      - MrTips
        
        And Mr Bernie Monk.
        
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        November 17, 2018 9:51am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Monk has a vested interest, but he’s not a politician. That was Marion Curtin’s major gripe; politicians hugging corpses in the hope of winning votes.
        
        I’m the first to admit I know nothing at all about mine safety, but I know this; if any person is injured or killed during the re-entry of the drift (bearing in mind they are not going past the rockfall), Ardern, Little and Peters will have that person’s blood on their hands.
        
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        November 17, 2018 10:04am
    - Viking2
      
      From today’s Bay Of Plenty times page11.
      
      Peters firm on mine renetry.
      Deputy PM WP says he remains committed to being the first person to re-enter Pike River Mine.
      I said I’d be happy to join the first team going back in, and I am still am, were I to be asked..
      But this is very unlikely to eventuate after Pike River Re-entry Minister AL said the first person in would be “and experienced, trained professional.
      
      There’s more grand promises but I would have to spend the night typing it all all out. Not available that I can see on line. (Well of course not.)
      
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      November 17, 2018 7:59pm
  - Komata
    
    Knowing what we know about Mr Little’s role as a union rep prior to the Pike River incident, does anyone else find the following statement in the Garner article, somewhat nauseous?
    
    ‘Little’s calm, mature approach has put people at the centre of everything he has done on Pike River’.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:55am
    - RiP NZ
      
      The article in its entirety is nauseating. Garner is like a lap dog, barking at every passing car. No doubt if someone could stomach his previous rants on the issue there would be contradictions abound.
      He really went full ‘tard during the week and has someone managed to double down.
      
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      November 17, 2018 12:59pm
    - sooty
      
      He’s not cool calm and collected. Why do you think he’s called “Angry”! He’s another “screaming skull”! I have seen him in action.
      
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      November 17, 2018 1:01pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Indeed, do those families want others walking on the remains of their loved ones. Surely they should have some say.
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:36am
    - Komata
      
      Fluffy
      
      Um, no, they are collateral damage to the intention of portraying National as the ultimate babarians, and the COL as the knights in shining armour.
      
      As such, Mr Monk and those he represents, are expendable and could indeed by regarded as ‘Useful idiots’, to be tolerated only as long as it suits Little and co to do so.
      
      In such a situation, the opinions of those who don’t care for Mr Monk’s actions are totally irrelevant. He (Monk) is a media whore, out for what he can get and what is happening now is largely about him, the original reasons becoming increasingly distant and dim.
      
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      November 17, 2018 11:52am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Nooooooooo! Leftards! Double down comrades!
  
  Blame John Keys
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:00am
- Harkman
  
  Do you guys still pay attention to this guy? One day when we’re all on our death beds we’ll be wanting the time we waste listening/reading Garner back.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:18am
- madamezucchininz
  
  ….I have read the sickeningly sycophantic article Garner has written on Andy little….just so cringe worthy….but I read it a second time and “reading between the lines”….there is some veiled criticism ….1 Little is not a child politician and 2 Little has led people before….and so on…..it appears that Garner is promoting little as the next Liarbor Leader….just reading between the lines am wondering if there are some rumblings of discontent among the party …or maybe wishful thinking on my part….This whole Pike Mine re-entry is just PR….they are never going in….there is nothing left to find….
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:05pm
DigNap15

What if they find that the miners blocked the gas sensors?
Will the relatives pay the compensation money back?
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November 17, 2018 8:36am
- MrTips
  
  You mean those rumours that they sometimes shut the methane sensors in lockable boxes because they kept on going off? And EVERYONE knew about it?
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/05/pike-river-mine-methane-warnings
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:42am
  - Inandout
    
    MrT, but not the union guys, no not them. Angry is not stupid.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:57am
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    And what did Neville Rockhouse, the Mines Health & Safety Manager, do about these practices – Bugger all.
    Sad he lost his son, but suspect there is some guilt here driving his wife to find another fall guy.
    How come the MSM haven’t as Neville Rockhouse about the know unsafe practices, or is he being protected by Monk.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:06am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    And of course the miners going in being trained by the police on gathering forensic information will know exactly what to look for and where to find it AND how to hide it.
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:38am
igm

Wouldn’t one like to see this slimey left-wing POS get a panel and paint . . . the only medicine for an arsehole such as he!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/108668718/little-a-hero-as-nats-run-for-the-hills-and-beyond
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November 17, 2018 8:36am
- Harlequin
  
  Don’t those comments on Stuff say it all. A significant number of people are sick to the gills with the performance of Monk and his two fat ladies.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:36am
  - lifesgood
    
    I for one don’t trust these mongrels. Who is going to make sure they don’t tamper with any evidence to make sure they get the outcome they want?
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:37pm
- JibberJabber
  
  The fact that Stuffed has closed the comments show how little they care for the facts on this issue.
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:36am
Hugh Pavletich

How will the Banks in particular cope with the massive litigation tsunami going forward ? …

Republished in NZ yesterday …

‘Deep recession’: Australian house prices could fall more than 30 per cent – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12161226

Aussie house prices in ‘deep recession’ … NewstalkZB

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/business/aussie-house-prices-in-deep-recession/
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Note yesterdays KB posts …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_15_november_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2359381

… The $18 million fine is a record for Australian consumer laws …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_16_november_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2359615

Property spruiker Rick Otton and We Buy Houses fined record $18 million for ‘peddling false hope’ – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-16/property-spruiker-fined-record-18-million-for-false-hope-claims/10502570
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The key message … the massive litigation risks, consequences and costs the finance / real estate sectors face going forward.
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- JibberJabber
  
  You`ve got to be a special kind of scumbag to spam anothers Blog when no one reads your own.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:51am
  - Swifty
    
    Yep.
    
    An odious individual.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:54am
    - VicParking
      
      “Trivial”
      
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      November 17, 2018 9:02am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        As a Tory myself, I am livid about The Lying Knight John Key’s long history of failure with these issues … check this out from 2007 …
        
        John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        … some more of the sorry history here … from my much loved archival website …
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
        
        I really do deserve to be appointed Patron Saint Of The National Party … saving all you housing heathens from yourselves !
        
        In case you are not brave enough to do that … how about getting Allister Heath of the UK Tele(Tory)graph out here … to tell you all about your failures … and what needs to be done in becoming politically relevant again … google search ‘UK Telegraph Allister Heath Housing Tories’ …
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=0yjvW9CQFMme9QPJjISIDw&q=uk+telegraph+allister+heath+tories+housing+&btnK=Google+Search
        
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        November 17, 2018 9:43am
- thedavincimode
  
  Hopefully the banks will cope better than the long-suffering Kiwibog readers who endure the never-ending tsunami of re-cycled drivel you plaster here hugh. Why don’t you just let go of your personal failure in the real estate department and stop trying to justify them with this crap or take it out on the world at large and more particularly, the readers of this blog.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:52am
  - Swifty
    
    He is unwell.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:56am
    - thedavincimode
      
      Yes – I guess that’s kind of my point Swifty. He’s unwell so he wants to make everybody else feel unwell because he’s fundamentally unhappy at being unwell.
      
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      November 17, 2018 8:58am
- Inandout
  
  HP: Take thee to a head doctor.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:59am
igm

So white men cannot paint their faces black, but murris can dye their black hair white . . . time arsehole Judd woke up and stopped behaving like a left-wing tosser!
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- dubya
  
  Well, Maoris can TRY and dye their hair white/blonde, but usually it just ends up that sort of ‘advanced renal failure’ shade of yellow, and when the regrowth comes through, ‘mince and cheese’. I’m not sure why so many of them persist with it!
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:29am
- stephieboy
  
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  igm, which big toe did you stub falling out of bed this morning?
  
  Left or Right?
  
  Or was it your head?
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:36am
  - MrTips
    
    Oh Stephie, only another 10lbs to lose and mummy might love you.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:53am
    - igm
      
      He must be getting ready to go for his next floor kissing . . . not unlike a wimp getting flattened in a pub.
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:20am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  And doesn’t Hone Harawira’s response sum him and his piece of shit family up so well.
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:31am
DigNap15

There is so much crap posted about the housing market and that’s not even starting on Hugh.

Sales are up
prices are up x& this quarter but y% over the year.
They are down in xxx but up in yyy.

The two different bank economists predict two different scenarios for the next few years!

Why do the banks pay them?

Then Stuff says prices will crash (but only by 5% over 3 years – IF interest rates go up, but the trend at the moment is downwards!)
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November 17, 2018 9:11am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15 , thus saith the Lord of Housing host’s
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:38am
  - pentwig
    
    stoopidthing
    kicked out of st lukes cafes so early, you self confessed pervert you
    tsk tsk
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:56am
- KevOB
  
  The banks here must have some spare liquidity to place based on the low rate offers–common at this stage before the serious tightening starts. Term borrowing contracts by them require term placements. Don’t expect a rollover, if even available, to be so friendly.
  
  The global crunch has already started. Hugh is just reminding us how it is showing up in Aus. Our common banks will not escape.
  
  The COL are going to enjoy the next 12 months. Their planning (self determination) is going to fiendishly concerning.
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:36am
trout

So developers in Auckland are discounting their overpriced houses to achieve sales in a quiet market. But not the builders of Kiwibuild product; thanks to Twyford they have a price guarantee. Buyers will be looking to pay a market price – taxpayers will be expected to meet the shortfall.
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November 17, 2018 9:16am
- thedavincimode
  
  trout, bear in mind that kiwislum is a roaring success if for no other reason than the mere announcement of the scheme means that the thousands of families living in cars prior to the election are now longer doing so.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:20am
  - KevOB
    
    families living in cars prior to the election are ~~now~~ no longer reported as doing so.
    
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    November 17, 2018 10:38am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Within weeks of the election there were no longer people living in cars, nor on the street.
    
    It was a Jacinda! A miracle that even Kiwislum could not claim.
    
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    November 17, 2018 10:38am
    - lifesgood
      
      All this business of integrating state tenants with nice young families in housing developments is a load of baloney and is going to end up one gigantic mess. I came through the much lauded Tamaki Housing Development on Wednesday…a mix of buy your own and state tenants on tiny sections. There were several police cars surrounding a house, lots of cops out front and a really low life looking person being questioned. Imagine a nice young family having to put up with that sort of thing on a regular basis and, what’s worse is they won’t be able to sell their expensive new homes.
      
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      November 17, 2018 12:41pm
      - igm
        
        What about the useless CoL buying older homes in select areas to house their scummy supporters. They are lowering values of properties decent taxpaying owners have worked their arses off to buy.
        Is this what Toxic Gnome meant when he said, “There are ways to lower property prices”!
        All hard working home owners be prepared for more of this from the scum that were foisted upon us by Peters.
        
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        November 17, 2018 5:23pm
- Harkman
  
  The way to shut this down is for the opposition or an outside small government group to promote the scheme as an Auckland solely entity done to help corrupt Auckland politicians.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:22am
  - Viking2
    
    National were moving the right way to get rid of this problem. They sold a big group of houses in Tauranga to an outside organization. I now see that something similar is proposed for Porirua and of course Ngati Whatua in Auckland set the example. The sooner the State owns no houses the sooner this shit goes away.
    Then they can do the same for schools.
    We would have more schools if someone else owned the buildings. Developers would put one in every subdivision and that would enhance our education and break up the group think that is currently called education all the while helping to solve the roading problem in all major cities.
    
    What’s not to like about doing all this. Simon
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:50am
Huevon

“There is no secret agreement with New Zealand First.
I have been invited to sit next to Vice President Pence at dinner.
The Minister made a careful and considered decision.
The Minister simply forgot to put a meeting in her diary.
I have not had contact with Derek Handley.

It’s hard to understand our PM’s self belief that she operates an honest and transparent government if you judge her by her conduct, unless….

You remember she is a Mormon. They are pathologically nice. Every moment of every day for a Mormon involves mental gymnastics to keep up the cheerful exterior in the face of reality. Just imagine what your life would be like if you couldn’t swear whenever something bad happens?

This also explains why there doesn’t seem to be any bad intent behind her lies, it’s more like she is rationalising unfortunate facts to suit her.

If you ever get to see the Book of Morman musical, they “absolutely and utterly” take the piss out of Morman niceness. It also explains the psychology of our unfortunate PM.
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November 17, 2018 9:19am
- thedavincimode
  
  Hot on the heels of her seating arrangements and harking back to Key’s audience with the Queen in which they discussed the global economy, an audience is about to be announced for adern in order that the Queen can appraise herself of current global trends in the application of tomato sauce to a battered sausage with a stick shoved up its arse.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:26am
- Harkman
  
  “I have been invited to sit next to Vice President Pence at dinner.” LMAO ? she just got punked or burnt. Pence arranged it so his wife would have someone to talk to while he conversed with actually important people. This was humiliating and her beloved worshippers in our 6 PM news were totally caught out, they didn’t want to show that she’d been set up but she had. ?
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:31am
- stephieboy
  
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  Now why anyone would want to sit next to VP Mike Pence is beyond me. Apart from BO, there is his strange Creation science beliefs and associated Christian fundie nuttery. Not forgetting playing second fiddle to that other nut , the current POTUS
  
  What is there to chat about for goodness sake?
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:33am
  - septic skeptic
    
    So what does that say about Cindy’s vanity?
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:39am
  - thedavincimode
    
    The fact that you can’t understand why a Prime Minister would want to sit next to the Vice President of the US will come as no surprise to anyone here you filthy little perv.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:42am
    - All_on_Red
      
      lol
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:02am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    What Christian fundie stuff upsets you the most? what do you do when they preach it at your church?
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:54am
  - MrTips
    
    I don’t know….weirdos on the internet who go on about honeypots??
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:57am
  - GoVege
    
    I agree.
    The only good thing about that nutter Pence is thankfully he didn’t get the top job.
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:33pm
  - igm
    
    Take note, follower of Islam:
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/11/jesus-was-not-karl-marx-in-sandals/
    And definitely not a paedophile and murderer like the weirdo you and your ilk idolise!
    
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    November 17, 2018 4:54pm
- Inandout
  
  ‘Black Books’ episode on Mormon callers is classic. Those two were happy clappy, even when pissed.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6TeDM-wlZ4
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:43am
- Viking2
  
  Been plenty of fraudsters among the NZ ones as well.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:51am
- MrTips
  
  To be fair, she’s been quite open about her rejection of the Mormon faith. I put her ability to dissemble and lie at the feet of Clarkula.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:55am
- Gravelroad
  
  Are Mormons “nicer” than the rich Bretheren then?
  Was it strange that Ms Ardern’s religious sect background was hardly mentioned during the election campaign, or before or since?
  Yet there was mass hysteria previously regarding the National Party’s links with the Bretheren “scandal”.
  Seems some religious sects are more acceptable than others.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:57am
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    Gravelroad, not mentioned because she is obviously a non-observing and practising member that she gave up long, long ago.
    
    I don’t think even Brash was an Exclusive Brethren. though he looks like one.
    
    What’s your point?
    
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    November 17, 2018 10:06am
    - Inandout
      
      If Brash looks like an EB, then what does your Cindy look like?
      
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      November 17, 2018 10:37am
      - lifesgood
        
        A bag lady.
        
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        November 17, 2018 12:44pm
      - igm
        
        A huckery brainless harridan.
        
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        November 17, 2018 1:02pm
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      -1
      
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      November 17, 2018 4:49pm
- freethinker
  
  Di you misspell and mean Moron or perhaps Mormon Moron?
  
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  November 17, 2018 3:54pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND: How will the Banks in particular cope with the massive litigation tsunami going forward ? …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/cba-aussie-house-prices-keep-falling/#comment-3227235

How will the Banks in particular cope with the massive litigation tsunami going forward ? …

Republished in NZ yesterday …

‘Deep recession’: Australian house prices could fall more than 30 per cent – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12161226

Aussie house prices in ‘deep recession’ … NewstalkZB

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/business/aussie-house-prices-in-deep-recession/
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Note yesterday’s KB posts …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_15_november_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2359381

… The $18 million fine is a record for Australian consumer laws …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_16_november_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2359615

Property spruiker Rick Otton and We Buy Houses fined record $18 million for ‘peddling false hope’ – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-16/property-spruiker-fined-record-18-million-for-false-hope-claims/10502570
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The key message … the massive litigation risks, consequences and costs the finance / real estate sectors face going forward.
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November 17, 2018 10:19am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  As a Tory myself, I am livid about John Key’s long history of failure with these issues … check this out from 2007 …
  
  John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
  
  … some more of the sorry history here … from my much loved archival website …
  
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
  
  I really do deserve to be appointed Patron Saint Of The National Party … saving all you housing heathens from yourselves !
  
  In case you are not brave enough to do that … how about getting Allister Heath of the UK Tele(Tory)graph out here … to tell you all about your failures … and what needs to be done in becoming politically relevant again … google search ‘UK Telegraph Allister Heath Housing Tories’ …
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=0yjvW9CQFMme9QPJjISIDw&q=uk+telegraph+allister+heath+tories+housing+&btnK=Google+Search
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:20am
- starboard
  
  “NURSE..QUICKLY NOW”
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:17am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Latest from economist Rodney Dickens …
    
    Subject: The government should do the obvious to fix housing affordability
    
    RODNEY’S RAVINGS
    Rodney’s Ravings are provided to clients of our pay-to-view reports on a complimentary basis. Non-clients can sign up to a 12-month free trial via our website (http://www.sra.co.nz/lists/).
    The government should do the obvious to fix housing affordability
    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
    KiwiBuild is experiencing some teething problems. Some people aren’t happy that it isn’t delivering new housing affordable to low income earnings while the extension of the ballot for the first 10 of the 211 KiwiBuild dwellings planned for Wanaka over two years may be a sign it will face indigestion problems in towns.
    More teething problems will no doubt arise. But the real criticism should be aimed at the government’s housing initiatives more generally because they aren’t aimed enough at fixing the largest obstacle to more affordable new housing: high section prices.
    This Raving puts the spotlight on the role rising section prices have played in driving up new and existing house prices in Auckland; with a similar story in all major urban centres except Christchurch where the earthquakes set it on a different path.
    Ironically, the Housing Accord and Special Housing Areas the National Government put in place in Auckland may be belatedly starting to drive a hint of downside in sections prices. But it is far too little. Much more needs to be done to get down the cost of developing sections; it would deliver a real solution to the housing affordability problem.
    Regards
    Rodney
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:29am
    - wiseowl
      
      Hugh,
      Why do you and others not understand that bringing in 6000 people a month in to New Zealand creates a demand for housing that can’t be satisfied.
      The only people benefiting from mass immigration are greedy land agents developers , education institutions, property management companies etc.All produce nothing for the country.
      Leeches.
      Cut immigration until things get back in to a balance.
      
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      November 17, 2018 12:07pm
Graham Sharpe

Suggestion for the PPTA and NZEI. If you want to bring home how important and deserving you all are, a six week strike starting December 15 should be about right.
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November 17, 2018 10:24am
Swifty

Bye bye Hugh.
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November 17, 2018 10:29am
- krazykiwi
  
  Two mindless, unstructured comments with nine links over less than 2 minutes. Rinse and repeat daily. Quite why DPF puts up with Hugh is beyond me.
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:42am
  - Swifty
    
    DPF will have his reasons I’m sure and quite possibly to do with his very generous posting rules.
    
    Just such a pity that the wanker Pavletich takes such advantage of them – and all to promote himself and his own interests and in such an arrogant and un-neighbourly way.
    
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    November 17, 2018 10:54am
  - flipper
    
    Well the floppy Pavlova does try to be relevant, and DPF does tolerate the likes of stupidboy, the Milkybarkid. Marquess et al and, unlike the ignorant pricks that run one particular blog, he does not exclude such idiots merely because they have different views , albeit stupid. DPF probably lives in hope that exposure to sensible views and argument will actually educate them. In that he is wrong. Those idiots react like Pavlovs (aka the Ardern/Pooffie/Mr No mob) dogs and are beyond help.
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:40am
gump

Here’s a fascinating story about how the money raised by the Live Aid concerts was almost entirely used to buy Russian weapons which prolonged and intensified Ethiopia’s Civil War.

https://www.spin.com/featured/live-aid-the-terrible-truth-ethiopia-bob-geldof-feature/
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November 17, 2018 10:32am
- krazykiwi
  
  Despicable. But lost on most donors who were probably more concerned about assuaging their private wealth guilt than actually helping those in need.
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:49am
  - Jack5
    
    Meanwhile, closer to home musician Luke Buda, with Don McGlashan, has released a song in NZ criticising Australia’s detention of border crashers, specificially children on Nauru.
    
    Perhaps Buda could get his native homeland, Poland, to take some of the Nauru folk.
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/nat-music/audio/2018671585/luke-buda-and-don-mcglashan-s-new-protest-song-to-get-kids-off-nauru
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:14pm
DigNap15

According to our local give away paper…

They are not going to build the Katikati Bypass for at least another ten years.
This was one of National’s “Roads of National Significance”
It was going to be started soon after the election.
We knew all along that Labour would can it.
In favour of cycle ways and bouncing strips for safety and trams in Auckland.
In that ten years lots of people will die on that road as it gets busier and busier each year!
I will be calling Genter and Twyford to account for each death!
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November 17, 2018 10:46am
- Viking2
  
  Simon was too slow. He should have had the diggers going before the election.
  
  He knew what would happen. He pissed on Peters over the Harbour Bridge so of course he was going to get stuffed by the Col.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:13pm
Swifty

Go for it Chris Bishop – we’re all behind you:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108663673/duck-for-cover-gun-laws-up-for-debate

Loved this comment:

“Hmmm… Could the lack of traction in changing the firearms laws over the last 20 odd years be because the ones we have are working? There has not been a mass shooting since the Bain family were killed. Last year a firearm was presented or used against police 18 times, only 12 prosecutions were progressed. Violent crime involving firearms runs at about .2 to .3 of a percent of crime and has been dropping over the last 30 years. Of the last 100 firearms incidents up to 2017 only one involved a licensed firearms owner (an Invercargill police officer shot his wife).
250,000 firearms owners, 6000 MSSA owners 4000 handgun owners, 15 million bullets fired annually. An average of 5-8 firearms murders annually and dropping. If the police could point to their road traffic safety program having the same success as the current firearms policy there would all be high fives in Wellington.”
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November 17, 2018 10:56am
- srylands
  
  I respect front line police but I have zero confidence in police leadership to give sensible, risk based, advice. Why? Well look what they do on road policing and alcohol licencing.
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:23am
  - Viking2
    
    Yea well today they are complaining that they don’t have enough road policing resources. And that may be true but I suggest that some of the reason at least is because they use the money they have unwisely.
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:15pm
- kowtow
  
  Thanks for posting.
  
  I find the kiwi gun blog an excellent site for keeping tabs on police excesses against lawful gun owners . If only they and the courts had the same zeal against criminals with guns …….
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:31am
  - Jack5
    
    Totally agree, Kowtow. Look at the way police persecuted the Northland farmer who used a shotgun against thieves stealing his petrol.
    
    The police want public support when they use firearms. How surprising, or stupid, that they antagonise the people most likely to support them in this.
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:19pm
    - big bruv
      
      Yes Jack5, because what NZ really needs is more fuckwits running around with Guns. Easy access to Guns works so well in the USA doesn’t it?
      
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      November 17, 2018 12:28pm
      - kowtow
        
        Fuck that’s the point , from Vance’s article…..
        
        ‘The gun lobby is sensitive to anti-firearms rhetoric and believes police, and in particularly the Police Association, overstate the threat.
        
        ‘They have a point. In the past two decades, the number of gun deaths in New Zealand has decreased, and gun murders are typically 10-15 per cent of all homicides. Violent crime offences caused by firearms is about 1.4 per cent. By way of context, New Zealand has some of the highest gun ownership in the Western world. ‘
        
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        November 17, 2018 1:07pm
      - Jack5
        
        Big Bruv, what country are you posting from? We don’t have easy access to guns in New Zealand.
        
        The police have problems with criminals who have firearms. It’s an irrational response is to punish responsible citizens who use firearms for hunting or sport.
        
        The terrorist massacre that didn’t occur in Christchurch was mass murder planned by car and knife.
        
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        November 17, 2018 1:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Ms Genter might be back in Parliament soon.

She was to take 3 months maternity leave.

She originally was due back 6 Nov
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/06/julie-anne-genter-releases-details-of-maternity-leave.html
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November 17, 2018 11:00am
- srylands
  
  I wonder if MPs get full pay while on parental leave?
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:19am
  - backster
    
    Yep she got $75000.
    
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    November 17, 2018 1:13pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    National MPs get full pay when on the run from police!
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:51pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Hey did Mrs Pence waive our Aluminium Tarrifs?
      
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      November 17, 2018 8:59pm
- kowtow
  
  Does that mean the road toll will drop now she’s back at “work”, or at least the place she reports to for drawing our taxes?
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:29am
- big bruv
  
  Genter is part of the Green cancer but at least she has not abused her child by rushing back to work so she can play Prime Ministers.
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:30pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    I got confused when you said work.
    
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    November 17, 2018 2:18pm
secondcumming

Five out of six people agree…..
Russian Roulette is completely safe.
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November 17, 2018 12:10pm
- DJ Ward
  
  The sixth person didn’t respond to the survey so 5 with a swing voter. No negative votes.
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:27pm
  - Jack5
    
    Secondcumming … you’re assuming a SIX-shot revolver.
    
    The odds change with one of these small, light revolvers that are popular in America for carrying concealed:
    
    https://youtu.be/FYbfVGK-vRs
    
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    November 17, 2018 1:27pm
Southern Raider

I’ve been re watching some of the Police Academy movies

For some reason everytime Captain Harris is on screen I think of Winston
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November 17, 2018 12:11pm
Jack5

The invasion of Britain is under way. Now it pays for running down its Navy.

Thank goodness for the Tasman Sea and the broad Pacific. But sooner or later it can’t be too long before the boats begin reaching NZ. Vietnamese “blue boats”, the type on which so many people fled newly Communist South Vietnam, have now been poaching sea cucumber – beche-de-mer – in New Caledonian waters.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/16/migrants-pile-dinghies-cross-channel-dover-panic-sets-brexit/
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November 17, 2018 1:10pm
sooty

Short, fat, shouty!
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November 17, 2018 1:10pm
Komata

Sooty

Grant Robertson in precis?
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November 17, 2018 1:50pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  If that is the case, Sooty forgot the word ‘Twatty’
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone following the chess?
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November 17, 2018 3:57pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Has Carlsen lost his touch?
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:34pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Yes, but the official site has a stupid pay-to-view model, so I’ve been following some of the Chess 24 live commentary with GMs Alexander Grischuk and Peter Svidler and IM Sopiko Guramishvili.
  
  Kimbo (where are you?) is a known chess tragic, and would have lots of insightful thoughts to share with us.
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:35pm
- Brigitte
  
  I’ve run through the games though my chess is not that flash so struggle to understand the intricacies (my ELO rating would probably be about 1000 less than the great Judit Polgár).
  
  My recollection was that Manolo was the KB chess maestro.
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:56pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Brigitte
    
    My recollection was that Manolo was the KB chess maestro.
    
    Check out this Kiwiblog page and then scroll down to Manolo’s comment: “Against a WGM like Alexandra you just play 1) e4 and then resign!”
    
    🙂
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:10pm
MrTips

Bloody hell. Been like Vietnam here today next to the Riccarton Races. Helicopters flying over all day, yellow vested yelly folk all rushing about, goofy young men pissing themselves all over the place, coppers standing around laughing and traffic backed up trying to get away. Then sang national anthem at 200dB….

Feel like putting a tie round my head and running around shirtless with a bow and arrow ?
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November 17, 2018 4:33pm
- Nostradamus
  
  MrTips:
  
  Feel like putting a tie round my head and running around shirtless with a bow and arrow
  
  Otherwise known as a ground-stomping haka?
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:53pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: Housing Minister Phil Twyford … Are we building out of this bubble … or busting out of it Aussie style ? …

Rodney Dickens says the real problem inhibiting affordable housing is the cost of sections, and that is the one key thing the Government can do to solve the affordability problem | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/96936/rodney-dickens-says-real-problem-inhibiting-affordable-housing-cost-sections-and-one

By Rodney Dickens*

KiwiBuild is experiencing some teething problems. Some people aren’t happy that it isn’t delivering new housing affordable to low income earners while the extension of the ballot for the first 10 of the 211 KiwiBuild dwellings planned for Wanaka over two years may be a sign it will face indigestion problems in towns.

More teething problems will no doubt arise.

But the real criticism should be aimed at the government’s housing initiatives more generally because they aren’t aimed enough at fixing the largest obstacle to more affordable new housing: high section prices. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Govt criticised for moving slowly on Auckland growth boundary | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary

Why are New Zealand homes so pricey? It has nothing to do with avocados | Stuff.co.nz
… watch excellent video …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/106789344/why-are-nz-homes-so-pricey-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-avocados

Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator
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November 17, 2018 4:55pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Piss off Hugh
  
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  November 17, 2018 5:16pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Density not at all popular in Christchurch …
    
    Unhappy neighbours trigger urgent council look at housing rules | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/108486294/unhappy-neighbours-trigger-urgent-council-look-at-housing-rules
    
    Mike Yardley: Christchurch must regulate the Airbnb rort | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/108531785/mike-yardley-christchurch-must-regulate-the-airbnb-rort
    
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    November 17, 2018 5:41pm
    - starboard
      
      “Mortician “…
      
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      November 17, 2018 6:16pm
    - KevOB
      
      If you live in the central city expect multiple home sites to replace single lot use. Our 900m2 lot might take 5x3BR homes someday.
      
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      November 17, 2018 6:34pm
Morrissey

To the great, heroic people of Gaza, Resisting the Pitiless and Diseased Nazi aggressors, I say: Play the Marseillaise! Play the Marseillaise!

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/11/14/to-the-great-heroic-people-of-gaza-resisting-the-pitiless-and-diseased-nazi-aggressors-i-say-play-the-marseillaise-play-the-marseillaise/
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November 17, 2018 5:44pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Hugh can piss off, but you Mosseycakes can fuck right off.
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:13pm
- igm
  
  Morrissey: Why don’t you “F” off you gutless left-wing POS!
  
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  November 18, 2018 7:35am
Nostradamus

For GoVege: Is eating vegan really the best diet for the planet? I tried it for a month

Vegan day one of 31. It’s 6:30am and I’ve just brewed my first ever almond-milk coffee. I heat the milk in our home coffee machine. It’s the most disgusting thing I’ve ever tasted.
…
Anyway, for the next month, vegan it is. No cows’ milk, butter, honey (forced bee labour is unethical), gelatin lollies, [real] chocolate, or anything else delicious — because delicious food and animals go together like … bees and honey?
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November 17, 2018 6:10pm
- nasska
  
  A while back Air New Zealand caused controversy by altering its menu to serve business class flyers a vegan burger.
  
  Personally I don’t see what the fuss is about as long as the vegans were humanely killed!
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:35pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    A person who pays a business class fare deserves more bang for the buck than a vegan burger! (And, no Stephieboy, that’s not a mile-high-club reference.)
    
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    November 17, 2018 6:40pm
    - nasska
      
      Anyone who served me such crap would be running the risk of becoming a substitute.
      
      Mind you, perhaps the answer is to give every vegan a Venus Flytrap and show them even plants think they’re wrong. 🙂
      
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      November 17, 2018 6:46pm
- Komata
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:39pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Have just finished my near vegan dinner..
  Boiled spinachbeet, roast cauliflower and artichoke hearts (all homegrown), and grilled tomato(bought)
  -Yummy…
  
  And a Ruatoria Steak & Mushroom pie (Yummmmmmy!)
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:14pm
- GoVege
  
  I know….almond milk is yuk.
  Soya milk is much nicer… 🙂
  Honey is OK.
  (Bees get depressed if they’re not working constantly.)
  Went out for dinner with my kids recently.
  The sight of all that red meat has put me off dining out for life….
  
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  November 17, 2018 10:24pm
All_on_Red

BREAKING:Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says we don’t need to worry about China attacking us:

“They’re 12 hours ahead, we’ll have plenty of time to knock out their missiles.”
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November 17, 2018 6:12pm
- KevOB
  
  Oops our F35’s need their bunsen burners upgraded.
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:28pm
- Inandout
  
  Shame it wasn’t true.
  
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  November 17, 2018 6:35pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘I don’t like the Electoral College and I would never send my kids there.’
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:07pm
  - Komata
    
    AoR
    
    The Hispanic SLG in full flight!,
    
    The tragedy is that she was VOTED in.
    
    Only in New York!
    
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    November 17, 2018 7:52pm
- Komata
  
  AiR
  
  And she genuinely BELIEVES it!
  
  The Dem’s version of our SLG, and just as dangerous.
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:43pm
Viking2

So Philip Burdon thinks Jacinda and co are alright!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/108453757/ardern-remains-indispensable-to-labours-image

Then of course he was no record breaker as a Nat. MP.
Apart from remembering his name for 15 years can’t remember anything that he he did to claim he was of much use to the rest of us. The Bolger years were not good for NZ.
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November 17, 2018 6:54pm
- starboard
  
  I thought we got ” a decent society ” from Spud Bolger..he’s an academic dont ya know..
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/the-9th-floor/story/201840999/the-negotiator-jim-bolger
  
  Only remembered for wanting to move the Beehive on wheels at a cost of 100 million, back in the 90’s.
  
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  November 17, 2018 8:09pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Only remembered for wanting to move the Beehive on wheels”…..
    
    You forget that with his primitive Catholic philosophy he advocated moving NZ back to the religion saturated 1950s sans wheels.
    
    I’ll remember him, less than fondly, for forcing me to dine on rat bolognese by voting for National under his leadership!
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:18pm
kowtow

If anyone needs a Christmas present idea for big bruv…..

‘The Jersey: The Secrets Behind The World’s Most Successful Team’ by Peter Bills, published by Macmillan.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/secret-behind-the-worlds-most-successful-team-how-a-country-with-just-4-8m-people-rule-the-rugby-world-37537599.html
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November 17, 2018 7:30pm
Nostradamus

How much taxpayer funding has this music group received?

‘Death to all oppressors’: Upper Hutt Posse’s passionate and furious speech at 2018 VNZMAs

Upper Hutt Posse’s acceptance of the Legacy Award at the 2018 Vodafone New Zealand Music Award (VNZMA) ceremony was marked with a fiery political speech. … The end of his speech became more impassioned, as he called for New Zealand’s military to wage war on countries he suggested were “oppressors”.

“Where’s that prime minister? I got some words for you. All of our armed forces and military that have been fighting these fake wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for oil, for USA imperialism – get out of there! What you need to be doing is going to Palestine to fight against the racist terrorism of the Israeli state. That’s where all of our fighting energy needs to be.”

It’s not just the Middle East that the rapper says Aotearoa’s army should head to – he also said we should send troops to the North America.

“Get to the Mexican/USA border and defend that caravan of indigenous people seeking refugee status in the United Snakes of Ameri-KKK-a. They’re seeking refuge because their countries have been wrecked by that colonial power known as the USA. Death to all oppressors!”

Good grief…
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November 17, 2018 7:36pm
- Komata
  
  Nostra
  
  When you’ve got a captive audience and a wheelbarrow, you push the latter for all it’s worth…
  
  Such events can be very enlightening can’t they?
  
  Somehow, I don’t think he’ll be exactly welcome should he ever attempt to venture past the Border Control point at LAX!
  
  Actions DO have consequences – this guy just hasn’t thought them through…
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:46pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Komata:
    
    I don’t think he’ll be exactly welcome should he ever attempt to venture past the Border Control point at LAX!
    
    Professor Peter will be pleased to know that he’s not the only one with LAXative issues!
    
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    November 17, 2018 8:06pm
Brigitte

We’re doomed I tell you. Watched 1ewes and they reported that the Californian fires have destroyed Paradise. But things seem to be going swimmingly in Hell (https://www.facebook.com/places/Things-to-do-in-Hell-Norway/103990176302902/).
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November 17, 2018 7:52pm
Viking2

Remember this guy?

Everyday people doing exceptional things were the toast of the town as the Bay of Plenty honoured its very own “Local Heroes” at the annual Kiwibank Local Hero Awards.

Ian Shearer (Whakatāne)

Ian Shearer is a man of many achievements.

Holding three agricultural science degrees, Ian was initially a research scientist for nine years who pioneered research into the effects of anabolic steroids on muscle mass. He has also been a Member of Parliament, including over three years as a Cabinet Minister, a Foundation Dean of Science and Engineering at the Auckland Institute of Technology, former Acting Director of the Waitangi Tribunal, a Whakatane District Councillor and operated his own technology consulting business.

Now retired, Ian researches and records the aspects of New Zealand’s history of people and places, having produced several books including ‘The Boy from the Bay’ and ‘A Century on Cameron – history of Tauranga Hospital’.

https://sunlive.co.nz/news/193382-local-heroes-honoured-services-to-community.html?fbclid=IwAR2k7_SoHwz8nkpX1xVPVaEHrEhuDoFZVSYW6Q2n9mnZTZF9eu7HzqtFJnE
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November 17, 2018 8:54pm
nasska

The main reason so many marriages fail, is that that the institution of marriage was created when people were lucky to live past 30.
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November 17, 2018 8:55pm
- Jack5
  
  But they got married aged about 15 or 16, Nasska.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:06pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Muhammad’s wives
    
    The majority of traditional sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:14pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But your hubbies (1,2,3…) had to go off to war all the time… so you were most unlikely to be lumbered with hubby #1 for 40+ years.
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:20pm
Jack5

An addict’s case against the legalisation of marijuana.
? Any potheads out there sober enough on a Saturday night to argue with her?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12155524
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November 17, 2018 8:59pm
nasska

From Jack5’s link:

…..”Hooked on synthetic cannabis before developing a serious marijuana addiction, Baird had lost her job and full-time access to her children”…..

So because one loser has multiple drug addiction issues everyone else must risk prosecution by using a plant. Sob somewhere else sister.

I’m a fully paid up alcoholic, albeit a dry one of 18 years. Does this mean that prohibition should be introduced in NZ tomorrow?
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November 17, 2018 9:08pm
- Jack5
  
  ? Yes! It’s more fun when it’s illegal.
  
  Only two of us on deck at Kiwiblog. I move we adjourn this meeting of the Kiwiblog branch of AA.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:17pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”It’s more fun when it’s illegal.”…..
    
    I can remember those good ol’ days. Boarding school in the 60s when we sliced apples thinly & jammed them into coke bottles with sugar & raisins then left the mess to ferment.
    
    Minimal alcohol & it tasted vile but dulled the mind to the never ending religious shit that droned on around us. 🙂
    
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    November 17, 2018 9:25pm
Jack5

?Calling the pussy-whipped! Here’s an interesting Telegraph article outside its pay wall:

Feminists are stifling attempts to halt the crushing of boys in Britain’s school system. You can bet the feministas are doing the same in our education system. Feminists have made the subject taboo.

Here’s Mary Curnock Cook, the former chief executive of Britain’s Universities and Colleges Admission Service (Ucas):

“Boys underachieving in education is becoming pretty normalised – everyone knows it yet no-one is doing anything about it.” She said that other disparities in education – such as the gulf between rich and poor children – are narrowing, but the gap between boys and girls is getting wider.

“In about ten years’ time the gap between boys and girls will be worse than rich and poor.”

Another tidbit from the article: Last month the only university in the UK with a men’s officer scrapped the role after the candidate withdrew due to “harassment”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/11/16/boys-left-fail-school-attempts-help-earn-wrath-feminists-says/
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November 17, 2018 9:29pm
- Jack5
  
  ? Perhaps Clarke Gayford, the First Bloke, could draw the attention of his partner, Jacinderella, to boys’ plight in education.
  
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  November 17, 2018 9:46pm
Jack5

Jacinderella got to talk about the Baybee with Mrs Pence, but Mike Pence has been talking big politics with the Aussies:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/mike-pence-announces-us-australia-military-pact-to-expand-manus-island-naval-base-20181117-p50goi.html
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November 17, 2018 9:55pm
Jack5

Trolley Man has been banned from Melbourne’s CBD pending the hearing of burglary charges:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/trolley-man-faces-court-on-burglary-charges-after-handing-himself-in-20181117-p50gn5.html
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November 17, 2018 10:00pm
Jack5

? ? ? And, a final contribution for the night: darts “grand slam” leads to farting accusations –

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/17/stink-hits-darts-grand-slam-as-match-features-flatulent-end
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November 17, 2018 10:06pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Essential reading ! …

Housing analyst ( Economist … Rodney Dickens ) says soaring land prices Auckland’s key housing obstacle | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108676571/housing-analyst-says-soaring-land-prices-aucklands-key-housing-obstacle

A housing commentator says the Government’s Kiwibuild programme might not be necessary if more was done to reduce the price of land.

Rodney Dickens of Strategic Risk Analysis said his figures showed that Auckland section prices in October now made up 67 per cent of the median house price, compared to 41 per cent in January 1993.

That meant the house itself, and improvements, was worth less than a third of the price. … read more via hyperlink above …
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New Zealand Issues Monitor IPSOS (September) – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow
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NEW ZEALAND : Major infrastructure partnership for North Auckland | Housing | Minister Phil Twyford | Beehive.govt.nz

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/major-infrastructure-partnership-north-auckland
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New infrastructure financing scheme a major step forward … Infrastructure New Zealand

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1811/S00391/new-infrastructure-financing-scheme-a-major-step-forward.htm
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How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
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Urban Development Authority a long overdue initiative … Auckland Business Chamber of Commerce | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1808/S00741/urban-development-authority-a-long-overdue-initiative.htm
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Mike Hosking (Popular Conservative Commentator): Housing Minister Phil Twyford right to bulldoze his way through councils – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12118208
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