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krazykiwi

Hosking on what Jacinda doesn’t know

This new publication is quite possibly Hosking’s most definitive work. Meticulously researched, it comes in 734 exquisitely presented, leather bound volumes. A must have for any serious collector, and can be proudly displayed alongside your other works in corridor-length display cabinets which are included with your purchase.

Yours for only $156,000+gst. Order today and we will include a photoshoot with Ms Ardern followed by dinner complete with some conversation starter flashcards.

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October 7, 2018 8:01am
- kevn
  
  @KK… Looking forward to more Hosking volumes as this sorry coalition wrecking saga grinds along.
  Sorry NZ?
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:38am
- Harkman
  
  Is there any way we can replace the present opposition leader with Hosking? He sounds more sober, he is better researched, he’s actually getting hits in and his wife puts shade on our airhead-in-chief. ?
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:33am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Since it is written about a female and
  it is a very cleansing and refreshing (sanitary) tome.
  ie
  Female sanitary product
  Shouldn’t it be GST exempt?
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:38am
CJames

It is interesting to note that our Prime Minister is quite willing to exploit her baby for photo opportunities
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12138073
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/107653813/actor-anne-hathaway-still-buzzing-after-meeting-jacinda-ardern-and-neve
Makes a mockery of the Speaker’s ban of baby photographs to protect privacy, doesn’t it. Or another case of “do as I say, not as I do”?
Though I do note she is filed as entertainment – an appropriate place for a lightweight.
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October 7, 2018 8:01am
- SaltyCroc
  
  Definition of narcissism: extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one’s own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type. Gosh – sound like someone we know???
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:44am
  - Tricati
    
    Winston
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:44am
- Harkman
  
  I’m just so disappointed in Anne Hathaway. How will I recover?
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:11am
  - sooty
    
    Don’t read her books!
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:19am
    - Morrissey
      
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      You don’t read books. Full stop.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:27am
      - Nukuleka
        
        Get a sense of humour, Morrie.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:01am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Nuk – forget getting a sense of humour, I’d be really impressed if M got some sense at all.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:55am
      - sooty
        
        Morrie, you dick wacka. Is she not an actor, so she problably will not write books.
        
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        October 7, 2018 12:06pm
    - Paulus
      
      Don’t you mean her so called husband’s books and plays although the original language takes some learning over the hundreds of years since he wrote them.
      
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      October 7, 2018 1:14pm
- Piniwi
  
  But CJames is this one of the naughty pictures the taxpayer paid for? We’ve been expecting baby pictures for almost a week now so there must be some more fun coming?
  
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  October 7, 2018 3:06pm
Viking2

Apparently the feministas of the press reckon the Simon is not going to be PM. today Vance and HDPA are on the band wagon. couldn’t be bothered reading their shit.

Interesting that the women that go on like this seem to have crap relationships all their lives.
Must tell us something about the.
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October 7, 2018 8:05am
- Tricati
  
  And the waffle from Tracy Watkins on the same theme.
  Clearly these so called journalists are trying to set the agenda instead of focusing on high fuel prices, thugs within the labour party (both sexual and physical) and the fact we have had no political polls for some time, which probably means the government is not doing well
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:22am
  - DigNap15
    
    We had a Colmar Brunton poll in August!
    How often do you want them in a non election year?
    They must be paid for by someone
    Labour has gone up in the polls since the election.
    It will take a long time for voter dissatisfaction to kick in!
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:32am
    - sooty
      
      Not with petrol hitting 3 bucks a litre.
      When decimal currency came in it was
      THIRTY CENTS A GALLON!
      
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      October 7, 2018 12:11pm
- holysheet
  
  Today the feminist at work told me that if she had her way, Brett Kavanaugh would spend the rest of his life in prison for his horrible crime.
  “What, attempted rape ?”
  “No, existing as a white heterosexual male.”
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:46am
  - G152
    
    Change the law.
    No rape kit no conviction.
    No DNA no conviction
    False accusation gets the claimant the same sentence as the alleged perp.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:42am
  - RF
    
    holy sheet…
    
    That nut job just has to be an Ardern supporter…..
    
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    October 7, 2018 2:45pm
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  Yes, but even a broken clock is correct twice a day. I do not think Bridges is electable as PM. Someone with at least metaphorical balls is required.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:10am
Viking2

then there is this. Leeching women sucking the tits of their female friends.

Cocktail parties and wine-fuelled film screenings to promote a Helen Clark documentary to foreign VIPs have cost taxpayers more than $33,000.

Embassies around the world have been hosting events with the former PM to show off My Year With Helen, a fly-on-the-wall film about her failed bid for the top job at the United Nations.

The hospitality bill comes on top of the $870, 000 taxpayer-funded NZ on Air and the Film Commission contributed to make the film.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107648212/taxpayers-pay-for-foreign-vips-to-sup-with-clark
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October 7, 2018 8:06am
- srylands
  
  Hell. I didn’t realise that the film had public funding.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:33am
  - sooty
    
    So we the taxpayer are paying for the old crone to fly at the pointy end, around the world to host a snootty nose event at every consulate in the world to promote a shit video and book, that we the taxpayer paid for! Talk about taxpayer rort! She certainly is no bounds as far as the depth off the trough!
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:16am
    - backster
      
      Socialism in action my friend.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:52am
    - GazzaW
      
      Exactly what official exalted position does Clarke hold to be in receipt of such taxpayer largesse? Self appointed Spokesperson for the Eden Park Nimby’s Association doesn’t really cut it for me.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:57am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Who else was going to pay?
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:48am
    - sooty
      
      Certainly not her!
      
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      October 7, 2018 12:12pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Just think of all the shoes and raincoats that could have bought for the kiddies living in cars.
  Will no one think of the children?
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:27am
- niggly
  
  Habloodyhaha, going by the tone of the Stuff comments alot of Kiwi’s are not impressed!
  
  Well done Labour more well spent Tax dollars!
  What the heck we can just bump a few more cents on to petrol to pay for it eh?
  
  what a self promoting waste of taxpayers money. This is shameful.
  
  Huh – what the heck! Still at the public expense? Really – this is not appropriate.
  
  Just put it on the taxpayers tab, like you’ve been doing your whole life. The sense of entitlement from Helen is astounding, long after we wished she would go and snout in someone else’s trough for good. Surely there’s some other UN job in New York?
  
  Clarks legacy of spending other peoples money continues. It seems the arty people are well and truly on the gravy train.
  
  Released around Halloween, how apt…
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:45am
srylands

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137600

Makes me want to buy a VW Touareg.
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October 7, 2018 8:06am
- Viking2
  
  If Cunners was ashamed to be a man this guy is a disgrace to the male race.
  
  Has no idea what it takes to raise a family nor have your own business but like all leeches knows how to scam others and spend their money.
  
  JAA (Just another arsehole).
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:11am
- Paulus
  
  Waiting for next weeks delivery of the new VW
  T Roc.
  Upgrading my present Tiguan.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:18am
  - srylands
    
    A Nissan Leaf costs $40,000. It is a little nana car with a range of 150 km.
    
    The top of the range 2018 Corolla hybrid is an excellent car for urban and highway driving. It has a range of 800 km. It also costs $40,000.
    
    Which one are you going to buy?
    
    People who buy electric cars are either urban singles who never do road trips. Or wealthy families with two cars. The second one is usually a V6 SUV. My concern is that subsidies will be deeply regressive.
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:28am
    - DigNap15
      
      Or you can buy a brand new small petrol car for $20,000!
      
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      October 7, 2018 8:30am
      - kevn
        
        @Dig… or you can buy a very good, decent size car with average fuel economy for 5-10k.
        10-30k buys a lot of petrol and depreciation is very low.
        
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        October 7, 2018 8:42am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Jimmy2mums can’t understand why more NZ’ers aren’t using public transport. LOL!
        
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        October 7, 2018 8:43am
      - SaltyCroc
        
        A brand new Ford Mustang V8 costs a little over $80,000 – now that’s a car!!!!
        
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        October 7, 2018 8:46am
      - stephieboy
        
        Dignap15, the technology is rapidly improving. Also where there is demand there is supply!
        
        https://www.autoindustrylawblog.com/2018/03/22/battery-revolution-may-lead-to-future-electric-vehicle-boom/
        
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        October 7, 2018 8:50am
      - MCos
        
        I biked to work in Wellington for many years, which meant we got away with only ever having one car in the family.
        Not particularly practicle for a lot of people on account of the terrain and an aversion to getting battered by the weather.
        I wasn’t one of those bad tempered types flying along in the flashy gear. In fact joggers used to regularly pass me going up the Ngaio Gorge at the end of the day, especially after a few beers on a Friday, but nothing passed me going down in the morning.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:41am
    - stephieboy
      
      sryland, a vision statement from Petrolheads V8/V12 Anonymous?
      
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      October 7, 2018 8:48am
      - srylands
        
        Yes because there are so many V8s and V12s being sold.
        
        My ‘vision statement’ is one where markets reflect preferences for transport modes. I object to rich people being subsidised to buy electric cars. And that is what is going to happen. I don’t even know why I bother replying to you.
        
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        October 7, 2018 9:07am
    - lifesgood
      
      A friend has a leaf. Was bragging about it when he bought it and how charging it up was free, now he’s disappointed. He has to watch how far he goes for fear of running out of charge and it’s gutless. Ha bloody ha.
      
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      October 7, 2018 1:02pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Perfect car for herbivores.
        
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        October 7, 2018 4:25pm
      - niggly
        
        Every car now comes with a 300 page fully coloured taxpayer-funded tree-killing booklet featuring James Shaw, Russel Norman, Lucy Lawless and a whole host of Green eco-terrorist wannabes with a page each outlining why *you” made the right choice in buying these cars!
        
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        October 7, 2018 5:10pm
      - srylands
        
        If I could afford two cars, I would happily buy a Leaf for tootling around Wellington. Thats the point – the people that benefit from the subsidies that are sure to be announced will be high income earners.
        
        People will switch to electric cars when they are attractive. That primarily means price and range.
        
        I have to laugh at the Australians asking for subsidies for electric cars. In Australia an electric car is a coal powered car. And in Victoria even worse – a lignite powered car. Congratulations.
        
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        October 7, 2018 7:09pm
- kowtow
  
  More pointless virtue signalling that will simply cost the taxpayer dearly and do nothing about “climate change”
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:28am
- JibberJabber
  
  I’ve got a single option for Shaw, F O C…nt , anyone want a vowel for free?
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:51am
duggledog

Getting a bit sick of the messages being circulated by irresponsible and deluded commentators such as Bernard Hickey regarding Baby Boomers, and how they are the font of so many of today’s ills; mostly the housing shortage.

Let’s just remember Baby Boomers contributed hugely to the prosperity of later generations with massively high taxes partially paying for the infrastructure we still use.

But the real point is that Baby Boomers were effectively the last generation who were routinely sensible and hard working. They valued family, were law abiding and parsimonious. They grew their own veg and could fix their own car. They knew intimately of the sacrifices made in WW2, the rebuild, and remembered their parents talking about the Great Depression. Perhaps this resulted in policy decisions that had unwanted long term effects but later generations had the power to change the NZ model and didn’t.

They still don’t.

Baby Boomers also saw fortunes ruined in the stock market crash and sensibly (for the time) went for property.

In contrast, many, many Gen X school leavers went to university and dropped out, went on the dole, went to Australia and went on the dole, had illegitimate children, abandoned them or asked the State to raise them, made poor choices like useless degrees – or got jobs, got cracking and prospered.

Later generations – well, there’s a reason vast amounts of the country is now owned by people who don’t speak English, and have no interest in the NZ way of life.

If you can’t buy a house in NZ, don’t blame the Baby Boomers, blame yourself for I know too of many immigrants who came here in the last ten years with no money or English, and are already mortgage free.
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October 7, 2018 8:07am
- Viking2
  
  Bernard who.
  Waste of space this guy. Just another leftie.
  If he gets lucky he might get to grow old.
  
  Basically just over broke, couldn’t make a good decision on selling his own house, and probably like most just over broke people contributes stuff all to the community.
  Aren’t they always the same.
  Contrast him against people like Owen Glen. 80+ and helping people in lots of ways because as a boomer he made a few dollars.
  
  Hickey will never know the privilege of doing stuff like that. Too lazy, too dumb and lacks any sense of purpose.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:16am
  - kowtow
    
    “Bernard who’
    
    Bernard Cultural Marxist , constantly stirring up inter generational hatred ( to use their langauge)
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:30am
  - Harkman
    
    Hickey is a Fabian Socialist, he doesn’t know crap all. He landed a gig writing business columns and he’s made out that he is guru ever since. Just ignore everything he says. He thinks this government is doing a good job, clearly it isn’t.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:25am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Yes, the government’s problems seem to be the by line.
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:54am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Hickey has zero credibility. Im still waiting for his 30% home devaluation prophesy to come true. He never recanted, never said he got it wrong.
  
  The man is as close to a modern day alchemist as you can get. Trouble is, because he has a way with words he tends to be believable, despite the fact that he has no understanding of what he talks about.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:32am
  - Tricati
    
    Like the crap he spoke regarding Joyce’s fiscal hole in Robbo’s budget – Wonder what his view is now!!
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:46am
- kevn
  
  @duggle… Live on rice for 2 years and buy a Mercedes Benz/BMW followed by a house purchase.
  Yep, you are dead right.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:44am
Chris R

I have watched President Trump’s recent speech to the UN several times. It has to be one of the greatest speeches delivered by a world leader in my lifetime. I am old enough to have shared this planet with Churchill, Kennedy, Reagan, Gorbachev and Thatcher and his speech is right up there with their respective deliveries. (Sadly, I am also old enough to have shared the planet with despots such as Stalin, Amin, Gaddaffi and Ardern.) As each passing week flows by, Ardern self-depicts more and more as a despot. She preaches about her own transparency, honesty, and deep concerns about the yet to be identified “poor” but simply does nothing to evince that her mouthing-off is anything other than hot air, attention-seeking and vanity.
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October 7, 2018 8:08am
- KevOB
  
  Top of the Stuff site column this morning the headline:
  Our PM is a hypocrite
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:21am
  - kowtow
    
    Yeah , but don’t waste your time reading it.
    
    It’s a piece of rubbish around so called synthetic cannabis .
    
    ‘Some kids were getting very sick as a result of taking a commercially manufactured product made by competent and regulated providers.’
    
    Competent and regulated ? WTF .
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:58am
  - calendar girl
    
    Why has Stuff now taken down the “Hypocrite” article?
    
    Too many complaints from ‘Beehive Sunday staffers?’
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:40am
stephieboy

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The New Colossus

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

— Emma Lazarus

Now scratch that out

Huddled masses? Losers!

Trump v the Statue of Liberty

A senior Trump advisor, Stephen Miller, sparked a furor last week when he dismissed the famous poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty. In response, we asked 21 poets: what type of poem would Trump like to see at the statue?
And cross this out too

Last week, Donald Trump threw his support behind a “merit”-based immigration policy that would would drastically curb legal immigration to America. Under the plan, applicants with English proficiency, doctorates, high salaries, investment holdings and credentials like Olympic medals and Nobel prizes would be given preference.

The proposal kicked off a ferocious debate at a White House press briefing when CNN’s Jim Acosta asked Miller if the plan violated the spirit of the poem The New Colossus, inscribed at the base of the Statue of Liberty. The poem, by Emma Lazarus, includes the celebrated welcoming lines: “Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”
Miller responded by noting that the poem “was added later and was not part of the original Statue of Liberty”. He went on to attack Acosta for his “cosmopolitan

And so, the Guardian asked 21 American poets – from the Pulitzer prize winner Rita Dove to the Inuit poet Joan Kane – to imagine in writing what type of poem would Trump like to see at the statue? We also gave the poets the option to write a contemporary take on the Lazarus poem. What follows is the extraordinary collection of work they produced on a short deadline.
We’d also like to invite our readers to join the Guardian’s Lady Liberty poetry challenge. We’ll publish a selection of our favorite reader-submitted poems. You can read more about how to enter here….”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/aug/10/the-new-colossus-emma-lazarus-poems-donald-trump-immigration
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October 7, 2018 8:14am
- kowtow
  
  Give me your Muslims,
  who will massacre , murder , rape and steal.
  Who will re create their shit holes on our shores
  Where the light of freedom will be forever extinguished.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:34am
  - Harkman
    
    Ignore him he has a disease. He posts dribble, turns pink and then disappears.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:27am
- RW Capitalist
  
  and yet…in the 19th century
  America turned away (as a %) more people than they do now.
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:43am
Left Right and Centre

You’re fat because . . .
It’s fat genes. It’s slow metabolism. It’s high carbs.

Or could it be . . .
Soft drink swilled from a big plastic jug being used like a cup at 6 mins 14 seconds !!

Hello ?? Oooo – a few seconds later eleven siblings *all with diabetes* wha-oo-ao.
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October 7, 2018 8:16am
- DigNap15
  
  Its amazing if you look at older documenataries or movies of the 60’s and 70s etc how just about everyone is slim.
  Now just about everyone has bulked up.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:28am
  - Viking2
    
    yep, skinny as rats. Few cars, had gardens, way less sugar in their diets. Most work was physical as compared to today where so much is sit om your bum stuff.
    Hence the need to get people on bikes and walking more.
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:35am
    - MCos
      
      No American junk food around when I was a kid.
      That shit is a curse on society.
      
      Also when I was a kid it was rare for mothers to work outside the home. Pretty much every meal was subsequently home cooked from first principles.
      
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      October 7, 2018 1:06pm
  - kowtow
    
    It’s a ‘huge’ problem .
    
    Here in Daft Dunners I see young and old , student and dropkick, brown and white .
    
    Across the board , and they’re not a bit over weight , they’re fucken juggernauts.
    
    Once upon a time fatty was the exception , today it is the opposite.
    
    New Zealand has a self discipline problem .
    
    But whatever you do , don’t blame the guzzling fatty , blame the bastard “corporates” for holding her down and shoving sugar down her throat , it ain’t her problem , some capitalist done it to her!
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:40am
    - DigNap15
      
      The biggest obesity problem is that obese people accept the way they are and are happy to waddle around.
      If we tell them they are obese or disgusting we are called fat shamers.
      If you see a before and after picture of a formerly obese lady, they always look more attractive in the face in the after picture!
      I rest my case
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:11am
      - Paulus
        
        But the new advertising philosophy is
        “Fat is Beautiful”
        and in the USA Fatter is even more beautiful along with Afro Americans (15% of the population).
        
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        October 7, 2018 1:21pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Have a look.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4F58UQf2A
        
        This woman is 24 and is an advertising star here in Thailand. It ain’t just NZ.
        
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        October 7, 2018 11:04pm
  - stephieboy
    
    DigNap15, not sure about that but you can provide some stats to confirm
    
    “Now just about everyone has bulked up.”
    
    Yourself included?
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:42am
    - holysheet
      
      Well we all know you haven’t. Catching your prefered sexual partner in the paddock cannot be easy. Best you try an old nanny goat, easier to catch. Leave the young kids to the liabour yoof.
      
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      October 7, 2018 8:51am
    - DigNap15
      
      I have no stats, but as I told you just watch some movies of the 60s and 70s and compare them to now.
      And yes I have a slight tummy, and I always try to keep on top of what I eat to keep it down.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:08am
    - Tall Man
      
      Lazy bugger aren’t you? Apart from opening your eyes which easily confirms an increase…..
      
      https://www.health.govt.nz/nz-health-statistics/health-statistics-and-data-sets/obesity-statistics
      
      From labour central.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:11pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Possibly overdoing endless jaw-dropping obesity vid posts, here’s The Heart Attack Grill
  
  Former spokesfatty Blair River, 258kg, dead at 29 (2’10”). Anyone over 158kg eats for free. Blair’s replacement ‘spokesmodel’ (hmmmkay) has had open heart surgery (5’01”).
  What can you say ?
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:35am
  - Deadly pony
    
    God that was fantastic, I wanna go!
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:59pm
- stephieboy
  
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  left right and Centre, as usual, the Obesity problem is rather more complex than fizzy drinks and KFC etc than for your pinhead brain!
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:39am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    I’d rather have a pinhead brain than your pinhead cock.
    
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    October 7, 2018 8:47am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Projection much?
      The obesity epidemic is a tad more complicated than a decline in self discipline, as moron kowtow suggested above.
      
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      October 7, 2018 8:53am
      - kowtow
        
        Good morning milky and fuck you too.
        
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        October 7, 2018 9:01am
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        American teenager much ?
        Is it terribly complicated ?
        People like a lot of yummy food and drink.
        
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        October 7, 2018 9:11am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

Allahu Akbar
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October 7, 2018 8:26am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Sorry, what was that, Aloha Snackbar?
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:33am
- JibberJabber
  
  So, can you get a Bacon and Egg Sarnie in Mecca?
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:02am
redeye

In just over an hour the U.S. Senate will vote on the final confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh. Thankfully it looks like the wavering will not be bowing to the activist pressure, will see sense and confirm. Just imagine how difficult it will be to get any high ranking appointments made if suddenly uncorroborated accusations can halt a process like this.
Most commentators appear to be playing safe and suggesting Ford is telling the truth but her memory has mixed up parties and the attacker. Personally I think shes just an activist liar.
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October 7, 2018 8:30am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Looks like the unhinged left are going to go full retard. Round them up and throw them in the slammer
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:57am
- artemisia
  
  Reckon she ‘remembered’ stuff during therapy a few years back, and was much later captured by actual activists.
  
  I have a few incidents in my life that I recall very clearly. But am no longer certain happened. At all. Is that common or am I just weird?
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Funny how the leftards were out to attack memory in trials where identity is an issue , but suddenly the sisters have discovered hashtaggery and memory, however vague, is now first class evidence of guilt.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:04am
  - mcgannje
    
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/04/science-shows-people-regularly-remember-things-didnt-happen/
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:49am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Dianne Feinstein has a used Ford for sale
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:08am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I’ve seen it; the body work looks fucked and the engine computer is a few circuits short of a motherboard.
    
    Sat nav completly fucked
    
    One careful lady owner and a cat lady then a slavering hoard of feminists with bad haircuts.
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:24pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      It actually has a blown head gasket
      
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      October 7, 2018 1:42pm
- G152
  
  She is a practising liar.
  Psychologist says it all
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:47am
  - KevOB
    
    Investigations into Ford are continuing.
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:28pm
- Piniwi
  
  Amazing redeye as Ford teaches apparently though it must be some sort of imagery from her life long need for therapy. They got it right having her testify first after her lawyer battled to have it the other way around. Then her performance was very well prepared right down to her facial expressions and posture while many were left confused more by what she could not “remember”. Lol
  
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  October 7, 2018 3:37pm
Viking2

Massey must be feeling the luv.

Massey University has ordered an independent review into the cancelling of a speech by former National Party leader Don Brash in August.

The university vice-chancellor Jan Thomas ordered the speech be cancelled, citing security concerns.

Since then, she and the university have been accused of not protecting freedom of speech.

The former Deputy State Services Commissioner, Doug Martin, will carry out the review.

Massey’s Chancellor Michael Ahie said the university had full confidence in Professor Thomas.

But he said it wanted to fully understand the lessons learned, and have clarity over procedures for future events.

The terms of reference for the review say Mr Martin will focus on the performance of the university in arriving at and managing the consequences of the decision.

He is due to report in November, and his findings will be made public.

Prof Thomas said she welcomed the review as it was good practice to continually improve systems and processes.

https://www.newsie.co.nz/news/119697-massey-orders-independent-review-into-brash-cancellation.html

Looks like a white wash of course, sounds like a white wash and of course will be a white wash.

Whats not to like. when the person ordering the white wash has an entrenched position as Ahie does then he knows the outcome or he wouldn’t order the white wash.
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October 7, 2018 8:32am
- holysheet
  
  Hang on!!!
  Didn’t you get the memo that using “white” in your description of the above terms is sooo wracist.
  All the luvies will be out for your blood.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:56am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  And how much will the whitewash cost?
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:40am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Are we allowed to say that it will be a black out as opposed to a white wash?
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:04am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      bro’ wash
      
      We already know the outcome so let’s just take the funds and push it across the bar somewhere.
      
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      October 7, 2018 12:26pm
- cmm
  
  “Massey’s Chancellor Michael Ahie said the university had full confidence in Professor Thomas.”
  
  So it’s all a big kick-the-can-down-the-road whitewash.
  
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  October 7, 2018 4:29pm
wiseowl

I am hoping many National type people are watching the Kavanaugh vote today and taking note of what senators are saying.
It is sending a message about how serious things have become in the USA and this will reflect on political happenings in New Zealand and Australia.
National followers should take a good look at themselves and consider if they are behind the likes of Pelosi , Schumar etc or behind the fine speech of Collins .
A very historic and important day.
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October 7, 2018 8:45am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I should hope that New Zealand does not follow the United States down the path to ever more bitter and entrenched divisions in public discourse and decision making.
  We are very fortunate here that we do not have a mechanism by which our highest court comes to be the arbiter of essentially political questions, and thus vulnerable to becoming the ultimate gift of the spoils system.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:00am
  - Jazzby
    
    As it happens, we have already gone down that road, some way. The Court of Appeal decision in 1987 (I have a copy in front of me) which gave rise to the fiction of a “Treaty partnership” did, indeed, create a political precedent which has torn this country apart – and, unless and until a future government legislates otherwise, it will continue to do so.
    What intrigues me about this decision is that (a) The Treaty of Waitangi has never formed part of New Zealand domestic law (references to it in legislation are simply secondary, unwarranted inferences), and (b) No government has ever ratified it. In short, it is a dud.
    This didn’t stop the activist judges putting their oar in, however.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:18am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      What happens here is very different. NZ parliaments have refused to alter the law following that court decision. Government of different stripes have come and gone, suggesting, to me at least, that a broad consensus of New Zealand opinion supports that approach.
      This pattern of consensus is an enduring feature of New Zealand politics. No matter what one’s personal view of the economic or social benefits of immigration, since the mid-1980s both National and Labour have consistently enabled the largest planned immigration programme in the world.
      We simply don’t have a system in which we allow the petty divisions between two permanent ruling parties to become the be all and end all.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:55am
      - KevOB
        
        The respect seems missing from the COL whose agenda tramples all.
        
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        October 7, 2018 12:31pm
      - Jazzby
        
        I take your point; however, I think that it’s less the case that successive governments have ‘refused’ to amend the law, rather than the fact that none of them has had the courage to see it through. Any legislation that might upset Maori is avoided if possible; I well recall John Key’s craven “We’d have hikois from Hell!” when it was put to him that the Maori seats might be abolished.
        Yes, consensus can be a fine thing, but the other side of the coin is that it can lead to social stagnation through hidebound legislation.
        And I’m afraid that you can’t reasonably infer that there’s “a broad consensus” [regarding the status quo] from the fact that our politicians have been unwilling to grasp the nettle.
        There isn’t a necessary correlation between what parliament thinks is best, and what the general public would like to see happen. Sure, this is why we have elected representatives, to make those decisions for us, but they always put their self-interest first: that’s a basic rule of political survival.
        
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        October 7, 2018 1:23pm
  - Harkman
    
    You left wing clowns are presently happy with the NZ Supreme Court because it is filled with left wing clowns.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:40am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Te Tiriti is not political Mike?
    You must live in the fictitious Aotearoa and not New Zealand.
    Edit: MAGA
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:45am
  - Paulus
    
    But Parliament can always override the Supreme Court.
    Parliament is the the real Supreme Court.
    
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    October 7, 2018 1:25pm
Sofia

Hansard 25 September – Urgent Debates — Hon Meka Whaitiri—Removal as Minister

Kelvin Davis, in response to a comment from Gerry Brownlee –
… They have absolutely no idea about the way we operate in the Labour Party and the support that we gave to Meka Whaitiri as a Māori member of Parliament, because our caucus, our Māori caucus, bases the way we act on tikanga, and that tikanga that we displayed there was just to go and support her in a time of need, and that’s a very Māori way to do things.

and Gerry Brownlee’s comment?
What about the victim? What about the Māori victim?
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October 7, 2018 8:47am
- wiseowl
  
  Sofia
  Brownlee should have said there is no place in our house of representatives , for a separate type of process and that he and the National Party would strongly oppose any such system.
  
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  October 7, 2018 8:54am
  - holysheet
    
    That the trouble with MMP. To get into govt, Key and co had to do a deal with the wracist murri party. The rot and sense of entitlement that the natives are exhibiting now,was firmly enabled. Get rid of MMP and we will get govts doing what the voters really want.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:02am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Key had a majority with ACT and UF, he didn’t need the Maori Party but included them for their own good.
      Maori made quite a lot of progress under National so what thanks did National get? – the Maoris voted Labour and the Maori Party disappeared. Then we got Winston’s choice and the rest is history.
      Thanks Winston, thanks Maoris, together you fucked the country.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:35am
  - Sofia
    
    Kelvin Davis had further said –
    Let me say: our Māori caucus is strong, and one of the things we do is we stick to our tikanga, and one of our tikanga is to stand up and support our people when they need our support. It doesn’t mean to say we pass judgment. It doesn’t mean to say we agree or disagree, but we know in Māoridom that it’s important to stand beside your people. It’s important to be there just to hold them up, just to help, and that’s how we were raised. That’s a tikanga that we understand and we know, and we don’t have to justify to any member of Parliament from the Opposition who has absolutely no idea around tikanga Māori, no idea around kaupapa Māori.
    
    Someone should have asked –
    What, then, about partnership schools?
    
    To those students who have been failed by the state system, or expelled from that system, partnership schools held them up, were successful and probably would divert several from Kelvin Davis’ correction institutions.
    Instead, partnership schools are a educational taonga banned from Labour considerations. So much for tikanga.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:06am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      All support, no judgement.
      
      And that folks, is why there are too many Maori out of education, on welfare, in gangs, in prison …
      
      It is because Maori don’t say this is unacceptable.
      All the babble about children being taonga isn’t translated into clear expectations about not putting them in clothes dryers.
      
      When will maoridom give up non-judgemental support and adopt some values-centred leadership?
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:50am
    - rockape
      
      If you replace Maori with Catholic you can understand why the Northern Ireland problem took so long to solve.
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:18am
      - kowtow
        
        Not ‘solved’.
        
        And I’m not sure what you’re trying to say there anyway.
        
        Under direct rule Catholics had exactly the same rights etc as anyone else in the Six Counties.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:41am
Simon

No Big Queen yet on this fine Sunday morning?
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October 7, 2018 8:56am
Pete George

Matthew Blomfield started defamation proceedings against Cameron Slater in 2012 after a series of posts (thirteen) on Whale Oil attacking Blomfield. It finally goes to trial on Monday after Slater ran out of legal options to avoid facing the claims against him.

If Blomfield is successful there is a real possibility that Whale Oil be fucked.

https://yournz.org/2018/10/07/whale-oil-be-fucked-defamation-trial-against-slater-starting-on-monday/
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October 7, 2018 8:58am
- VicParking
  
  So says the next Mayor of Dunedin and serial litigant in his own right.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:06am
  - Pete George
    
    I wonder why you’re a bit tetchy.
    
    I haven’t initiated any litigation against anyone. Along with Allied Press I did claim costs as a result of an failed private prosecution, which we were awarded due to the incompetence and repeated abuses of process of the prosecutor.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:11am
    - VicParking
      
      Yes your worship…woops
      
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      October 7, 2018 12:40pm
- G152
  
  Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bigot
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:50am
- peterwn
  
  SB and others are quite capable of keeping it going.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:55am
  - Pete George
    
    That’s what seems to be virtually happening now. Slater seems to do little but two or three token posts per day.
    
    But if he gets hit with an award against him, or even just costs, that must impact on SB and WO financially.
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:04am
    - peterwn
      
      Cam once called me a ****wit, so I have not subscribed, but I might do so if he is out of the picture since I hold SB in high regard.
      
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      October 7, 2018 1:26pm
- howitis
  
  This fella George comes on to this blog to point people to his own blog to talk about a person from yet another blog.
  Ok, Then.
  
  Pete ‘the beige badger’ George who is not a politician (I emphasise NOT because PG said so) despite standing as a United Future candidate in 2011 and for Dunny Mayor in 2013.
  
  He failed in each attempt so is NOT a politician.
  But is a blogger who comes onto this blog to talk about yet another blogger.
  ..anyhoo, how do you folk think van Gisbergen will get on today?
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:26am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I’m torn. I want Scott McLaughlin to win the championship, so he needs to be at the pointy end today. But SVG has Whanganui’s own Earl Bamber as his co-driver.
    
    Bamber of course is a Le Mans winner and World Endurance champion along with Brendon Hartley, who hails from just down the road in Palmerston North and is an old boy of my old school. Hartley had his best-ever F1 qualifying in Japan last night, making it to Q3 and qualifying sixth, one place and one row on the grid ahead of his Toro Rosso teammate/rival Gasly.
    
    Who said Kiwis can’t fly?
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:59am
VicParking

I have been watching the demonstrations in Washington. There are four types of people in the crowds
Mad cat women (60%)
People with cell phones filming (hoping to make a $ by posting on social media)
Paid organisors shepherding people around
Press
Also All the signs are professionally produced (via Soros)
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October 7, 2018 8:59am
- VicParking
  
  Down tick, must be george as stephie will still be head banging.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:08am
kowtow

This from a ‘Conservative” led council.

Fucken Bolshevism .

‘The council linked to the Grenfell Tower disaster has asked for new powers to seize empty properties owned by millionaires, wealthy oligarchs and foreign royalty to use for social housing.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6246937/Grenfells-Tory-council-echoes-Corbyn-demands-powers-SEIZE-multi-million-pound-homes.html#comments
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October 7, 2018 9:14am
- Woz
  
  That’s one way of destroying investment.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:19am
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    ???
    
    What “investment”? These bludgers are property speculators.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:30am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Someone doesn’t like the plain truth.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:40am
      - kowtow
        
        Someone doesn’t like private property.
        
        And to those of us who aren’t multi millionaires , if they can take it from the rich they can take it from anyone.
        
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        October 7, 2018 9:46am
      - Morrissey
        
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        What an ignorant comment. Seizing ill-gotten gains from the rich and idle has a long and honorable history. Perhaps you have heard of the dissolution of the monasteries in England, leave alone the breaking up of the enormous farms in the South Island late in the nineteenth century?
        
        Then again, probably you haven’t.
        
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        October 7, 2018 9:54am
      - KevOB
        
        Theft out of envy is still theft. You have no concept of economics either.
        
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        October 7, 2018 12:37pm
- artemisia
  
  And reported today that some big old places in Auckland are up for sale and might be bulldozed for new development. Oh noes, how can ‘we’ let this happen, say the usual suspects.
  
  Well it is sad, but they are also private property.
  
  And if up for sale, don’t want it bulldozed, just buy it.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137660
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:58am
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Standing ovation.

“Being silent might be the easy thing to do, but it is not the right thing to do…. Conference, if we are silent, we are complicit.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrabiZR5MTg
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October 7, 2018 9:17am
- kowtow
  
  UK Labour……
  
  “If we are silent we don’t get the Paki vote and despite having a long history of Jewish activism in the party , let’s throw them under the bus in order to keep our snouts in the trough.”
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:33am
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    Racists like you hate Pakistanis, and Palestinians, and Jews.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:36am
    - Jack5
      
      Morrissey, it’s the Muslims who are the racists when it comes to Jews in Europe … in France, Britain, Germany. That is, if you think the term, racism, still has any worthwhile, definitive meaning.
      
      Does your definition of racism cover the mayhem planned by the young Middle Eastern Muslim refugee convicted for planning mass murder in Christchurch by car and knife attack? Or does it not cover violence against white people?
      
      Does the term racism cover the mass rape (now in the thousands) of very young English girls by Pakistani paedophiles?
      
      How ever the actions of the Israelis in Palestine are judged, you can’t attribute them to “racism”. Genetically, Palestinians and Jews are cousins, if not closer.
      
      “Racism” is so over-used, mis-used, and politicised, it’s now a vague, rather useless word.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:35am
Woz

I see Donald Trump Jr took a swing at Whoopi Goldberg for attacking Kavanaugh’s supporters, when just five minutes ago she was busy making excuses for that well known child rapist Roman Polanski.
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October 7, 2018 9:18am
Fletch

BREAKING: Brett Kavanaugh has been CONFIRMED as justice on Supreme Court.

WASHINGTON, DC – Brett Kavanaugh became the 114th justice to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court on Saturday, when the Senate confirmed him by a vote of 50-48, handing President Trump and Republicans a historic victory that shifts the balance of power on the Court.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/06/kavanaugh-confirmed-possibly-most-conservative-supreme-court-since-1934/
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October 7, 2018 9:28am
- Morrissey
  
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  Disgusting. But what else did you expect when such a crude lout is in the White House?
  
  Ramirez said she remembers Kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing as he pulled up his pants.
  
  ‘Brett was laughing,’ she said. ‘I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.’
  
  Ramirez said she remembers another student talking about the incident.
  
  ‘Somebody yelled down the hall, “Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face”,’ she said.
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/09/gropers-no-43-dishonorable-brett.html
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:34am
  - Harkman
    
    You’re just a simpleton believing fake stories from registered Democrats.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:45am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Idiot. You know perfectly well that Kavanaugh, just like Trump, hates women and has a history of assaulting them.
      
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      October 7, 2018 9:48am
      - Nukuleka
        
        Run out of the stabilizing meds on this Sunday morn have you Morrie? If you turn up as usual to the pharmacy at 1.00pm they’ll have them all ready and packaged for you. Just be a good fellow and remember to take them as prescribed.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:13am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Is there a Doctor in the house?
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:16am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Tired of losing yet?
        
        I’d vote for Trump just because he makes liberals foam at the mouth.
        
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        October 7, 2018 11:17am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I would have thought that it was more a matter of liking women too much, not hating them.
        
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        October 7, 2018 11:30am
  - mandk
    
    What an idiot you are, Morrissey.
    
    Ramirez is probably the least convincing accuser ever.
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:07am
  - geoff3012
    
    “Disgusting. But what else did you expect when such a crude lout is in the White House?”
    
    I thought obumma wasn’t there anymore…..
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:47pm
  - Swifty
    
    Suck it up cupcake.
    
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    October 7, 2018 6:13pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  That’s almost the best news of the day so far, but it doesn’t quite rank with the All Blacks’ storming finish in Pretoria 😀
  
  Seriously though, kudos to the GOP for standing firm against some of the most hysterical protesting I’ve ever seen. I hope this rebounds on the Dems at the mid-term elections.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:37am
  - Harkman
    
    Two great comebacks for the ages.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:46am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Most of the GOP. Murkowski is a Trump hater and RINO. Out next Election
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:50am
    - wiseowl
      
      Steve.
      It was interesting comparing Murkowskis’ speech with Collins speech.
      Collins said ‘When passions are most inflamed, fairness is in jeopardy’ .
      It was a top speech.
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:38am
      - Fletch
        
        I agree. I knew when she was saying it that it was a quote for the ages.
        
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        October 7, 2018 12:01pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Don’t let Maggy Wassilief catch you writing ‘hysterical’ in a comment on this blog. It’s a blatant attack on wimmin.
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:49am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Get a grip.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:31am
      - sooty
        
        I think you will find MMhas a grip.
        He’s choking it!
        
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        October 7, 2018 12:24pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      With respect mikenmild, I think you’ve already proved that hysteria crosses gender and every other demographic.
      
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      October 7, 2018 12:06pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Outstanding news.
  
  The liars, bullies and smearers have been sent a message.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:47am
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    Yes they have. That message is: you may bully and assault women, smear them and their supporters, and behave in the most unhinged fashion imaginable, and there’s nothing to stop you becoming the U.S. President, or ascending to the Supreme Court.
    
    There are no standards, there is nothing too disgusting for American public life. That is the message.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:58am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Bit like our Maori bitch then?
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:11am
      - Morrissey
        
        ????
        
        I think this moron is trying to be funny?
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:14am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        For the Moron Morrisey. The bitch I am referring to is meka whaitiri.. everyone else got it except you. Moron. And by the way what’s this constant inviting of female posters to chez Breen? Got some catching up to do? Won’t be long before you on the gropers list if you persist in this behaviour. You who illigally used computers. Who has no association with daisy cutters.. go on Google morrisey Breen. ..idiot.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:40am
      - itstricky
        
        Maori bitch
        
        Why hasn’t Keeping Stock sorted this one out yet?
        
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        October 7, 2018 1:26pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Ffs, will you give women some credit for being masters of their own fate.
      
      I for one will not let you make victims of us all.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:33am
      - waikatogirl
        
        ? ? ?
        
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        October 7, 2018 3:09pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Rachael, please feel free to pop round to Chez Breen at any time, and I’ll happily play the victim. Bring that waikatogirl with you if you like.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XprXi0cG-H4
        
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        October 7, 2018 6:17pm
- howitis
  
  The news on Bathurst Sunday:-
  
  Ford is defeated !
  (little girl voice Blasey Ford)
  
  Kavanaugh was good enough at Holden’ on for the nomination 🙂
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:48am
- krazykiwi
  
  What I’d like to see:
  
  “Please know that by bringing this accusation of sexual impropriety against this person, that the police will investigate swiftly, and thoroughly.
  
  If there is a case to be answered then it will proceed, and your continued testimony will be required.
  
  If we determine that there is no case to be answered, then you will be charged with either wasting police time or with perverting the course of justice.
  
  We recommend you consider these matters before formalising any accusation.”
  
  It might be too much to hope for, but in the absence of something like this, men’s lives will increasingly be wrecked by malicious drive-by’s
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:18am
  - KevOB
    
    Serious investigation into Ford is underway. Some people would sacrifice truth for politics. That undermines the whole foundations of civil society. Allegations are not for sport: if reputations are at stake credible proof needs to be presented alongside.
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:47pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Can’t say I can work up enthusiasm for a Bush-era Ziocon who wrote the Patriot Act.
  
  Then again I’m not enthusiastic about a US plutocrat-president who’s got a half-Jewish family and whose nationalism is a kind of second-hand Israeli nationalism.
  
  But that’s the Empire that rules us for the moment…
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:39am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    For the downtickers,
    
    Watch this:
    
    https://mises.org/files/judge-andrew-napolitano-brett-kavanaugh-and-patriot-act
    
    Just because a man is far above the station of lowly (((Democrats))) who tried to persecute him (see below), doesn’t mean we should hold him to a lower standard.
    
    https://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/a-jewish-case-for-no-on-kavanaugh/
    
    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2018/10/blog-post.html?m=1
    
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-brett-kavanaugh-bad-for-the-jews-1532387026
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO, if I recall correctly that was not the message we were getting from you 2016 and after the election.
    
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    October 7, 2018 6:53pm
- lifesgood
  
  Wonderful news!! Truth and justice wins! Wait for the lefts to become utterly enraged.
  
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  October 7, 2018 1:10pm
duggledog

And in this way, and others, Trump got two terms.

There will be much protesting, but it’ll blow over.
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October 7, 2018 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  What will “blow” will be the media and other leftards activists heads .
  
  Joy.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:52am
- howitis
  
  The protesting and bleating won’t stop.
  Soros has a lot of money.
  The DemocRATs have unlimited hate.
  It simply bursts out of them.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:56am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    That hate was always there, Trump just exposed it
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:18am
    - Morrissey
      
      The hate is from Trump and his cronies. Kavanaugh is unfit to be a school janitor, yet he’s now on the Supreme Court.
      
      Surely that concerns you?
      
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      October 7, 2018 5:09pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes the left and their newsmedia and celebrity supporters really have a righteous view.
    And they can be so nasty
    No class
    F them all
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:49am
    - Morrissey
      
      No class
      F them all.
      
      Funny! Even more so because dear old DigNap15 wrote that without a trace of self-awareness.
      
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      October 7, 2018 5:12pm
Biscuit

No comment(s) yet on the second superb All Blacks-Springboks test in under a month?
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October 7, 2018 9:34am
- Morrissey
  
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  Spoiled at the end of the match by this cliché-larded exchange:
  
  JUSTIN MARSHALL: You no doubt took some learnings from this game?
  
  STEVE HANSEN: This is a young group….
  
  Speaking of Justin Marshall….
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/bernadine-or-hell-hath-no-fury-aug-29.html
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:39am
  - Harkman
    
    Man (or woman) that really is pathetic.
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:50am
    - Jack5
      
      Morrissey on himself in his sketch (from the link): “A tall, virile looking young man fills the door-frame.”
      
      You shouldn’t be so hard on yourself, Morrissey. ?
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:00am
      - Morrissey
        
        You READ my script!??!?!?!
        
        Oh joy! Oh wondrous, frabjous day!!!
        
        Are you an agent by any chance, Jack?
        
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        October 7, 2018 1:12pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Morrissey, you surprise me.
    
    Why does an intelligent chap like you even WATCH commentators’ ‘previews’ or ‘reviews’.
    
    They’re all, as you say, cliché-larded and you tend to learn two-fifths of the square root of sweet stuff all from them.
    
    Other than nothing stuff like (and I would cheerfully bet that all of these featured):
    
    * It was a game of two halves
    * Rugby was the winner on the day
    * I’m so proud of the boys
    * It ain’t over till its over
    * We did it to honour Penny Bright
    
    Oops, may be not ALL of those…
    
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    October 7, 2018 9:50am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      In actual fact, this WAS a “game of two halves”. The first half was awful, and the second half was electrifying.
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:03am
      - Biscuit
        
        True, KS.
        
        No idea why the Boks made so many changes to key personnel late on in that game. Our bench is clearly better than their bench – and surely their stars would’ve relished closing out the game?
        
        Remember the 2015 World Cup Final – Australia had (albeit with Ben Smith in the bin) fought back to 17-21 down, the next score crucial … and they subbed their skipper off as always as the game hi9t the hour mark…
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:08am
    - Morrissey
      
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      I turn off immediately Ian Smith appears. I get upset by the nonsense spoken by the likes of Marshall and Mehrtens, but at least they know what they’re talking about.
      
      Smith, on the other hand, knows nothing. He is not only a cretin, he is, as D’Annunzio said of Marinetti a century ago, “not just a cretin, but a phosphorescent cretin” and also “un cretino con lampi di imbecillità” —- an idiot with flashes of imbecility.
      
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      October 7, 2018 10:06am
      - Morrissey
        
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        Some moron who knows nothing about football feels obliged to downtick that comment. Unbelievable, folks, but true!
        
        VERY SAD.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:13am
      - Biscuit
        
        T’weren’t me, Morrissey.
        
        You will already have noticed my opinions on ‘commentators’…
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:17am
      - Nookin
        
        It looks as though the morons are outnumbering the Morissettes 6-zip.
        
        Reminds me of the mother pointing proudly to her son in the army parade and observing that he was the only one in step.
        
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        October 7, 2018 10:43am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Smith wasn’t even part of the commentary team this morning Morrissey. Jeff Wilson had the sideline role. I played First XI cricket with Smithy in 1973, and he’s a thoroughly decent bloke who knows his stuff far better than you know yours.
        
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        October 7, 2018 11:19am
      - Morrissey
        
        Keeping Stock, mon ami, il tuo amico non è solo un cretino, ma un cretino fosforescente.
        
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        October 7, 2018 1:15pm
      - Morrissey
        
        T’weren’t me, Morrissey. You will already have noticed my opinions on ‘commentators’…
        
        Good on you, Biscuit! Welcome aboard.
        
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        October 7, 2018 5:07pm
- DigNap15
  
  People are losing interest in rugby
  
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  October 7, 2018 6:30pm
howitis

I watched part of Sen. Susan Collins speech at the US Senate yesterday morning then did a time check and it was 3-4pm Friday in Washington.
They are about to vote in the next hour on the SCOTUS appointment and it is after 4pm on Saturday afternoon.

The baseline salary for a US Senator is USD174,000 pa
That is some dedication.
Our motley crew of mainly overpaid activists and troughers (aka MPs) receive a baseline salary of NZD160,000+ and more than a quarter of the 120 as list MPs have absolutely no responsibility at all (in real terms, not their imagined ‘do you know who I am’ self delusion).

Many if not most of our MPs are part-timers but they puff up their importance by turning up to the opening of an envelope.
We have low productivity at all levels in NZ.
The USA ‘gets by’ with 100 Senators for the whole country of over 300 million.
There are 435 in the house of Reps.

A vague recollection of NZ history is that MPs were honestly part time and possibly unpaid in the 1800s.
In the 2000’s we have over-paid part-timers, and too many of them.

It is time we stepped back to 90 MPs and if they have time to be activists protesting in Israel, Spy bases, or private speeches by Nigel Farage then clearly they don’t have enough work. Sack them.

The badly named Eugenie Sage has proposed a Tahr cull.
An MP cull in NZ would be better for the country.
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October 7, 2018 9:38am
- James Stephenson
  
  Baseline of that maybe, but it seems to be a role that guarantees multi-millions from somewhere over a career.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:46am
  - gump
    
    “We have the best government that money can buy.”
    
    – – Mark Twain
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
      ― H.L. Mencken
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:10am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Didn’t know Mark Twain, knew anything about Jacinda Ardern.
      
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      October 7, 2018 11:57am
DJ Ward

My missus was out on the farm a few days ago feeding out extra food to a group of 8 bulls. They are about to be put in with the cows so a bit of extra feeding is important.
One bull however seemed a bit excited, probably because of a few heifers nearby. It must have decided the missus was competition, or a heifer and tried to attack her. The missus had to run for it but humans are slow and the bull got her. She was head butted from behind and sent flying. Luckily the bull decided it was victorious at this point and stopped.
Not that the bull knew but she only needs 6 for breeding and grew 2 as spares. The missus might get the last laugh.
While the missus got a few bruises, for once she can be thankfull for the extra padding on her arse.
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October 7, 2018 9:58am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I suspect your freezer will soon be full of prime beef 😀
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:04am
- Biscuit
  
  Yep, DJ, that bull should’ve remembered the old adage:
  
  Never butt the butt that feeds ya!
  
  I hope you have been offering to kiss better the butted butt in question!
  
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  October 7, 2018 10:15am
- KevOB
  
  You are damaging Muslim relations in NZ.
  
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  October 7, 2018 12:51pm
srylands

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/10/climate-change-minister-james-shaw-wants-everyone-equally-unhappy-with-zero-carbon-bill.html

This is depressing. Surely we don’t deserve a government that aspires to make us all “equally unhappy”. And yet this quote prompted minimal media attention.

I can think of some countries that actually set out to make citizens equally unhappy. One of them ended up building a wall to stop people leaving.

I know I have said it before but by 2050 the world will be using more natural gas than it does today.
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October 7, 2018 10:27am
Steve (North Shore)

If Dr Ford is prosecuted for Pergury, and found guilty, she can take her case all the way to the Supreme Court
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October 7, 2018 10:39am
- mikenmildagain
  
  No one is going to prosecute her for perjury. That’s about as likely as the president suing for defamation any of the many women who have recounted his sexual assaults.
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:05am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Or as likely as Bill Clinton getting prosecuted for a lifetime of actual rape crimes.
    
    Because everyone knows, it’s not a crime if you are a Democrat. Their standards don’t have to apply to themselves.
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:31am
  - DJ Ward
    
    He (Trump) is not allowed to sue them because he is rich and famous. He has made it clear in his public speeches that he would sue them if he was legally entitled to.
    
    Recounting a sexual assault that never happened is impossible. Perjury is the only other option.
    
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    October 7, 2018 11:44am
  - softail 1450
    
    M M A , crippled with T D S, the poor little guy.
    
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    October 7, 2018 2:18pm
- DJ Ward
  
  That’s a big if. As far as I’m aware false allegations of rape don’t get prosecuted in the US. However lying to the FBI is taken very seriously. The other accuser in in trouble.
  In this case you would have to find colluding evidence that she was lying from the beginning as beyond reasonable doubt would be hard to prove. Just as no colluding evidence caused her actions to fail.
  I think she hates Trump so much (her record prior to events shows this to be true) that she made the story up. She named a small group thinking that amongst them would be a person like her, willing to lie to hurt Trump.
  It is also likely that the Democrate machine went searching into his history looking for a person to do this abhorrent act. Heh, he was associated with a female social science professor (who hates Trump by default) in his youth. Bingo!
  How else do you explain the co-ordinated turn of events. I hope this is properly investigated.
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:15am
  - Fletch
    
    Wasn’t Martha Stewart thrown in jail just for lying to the FBI?
    
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    October 7, 2018 12:12pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  // Sarc was on, sorry you missed it
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:26am
  - softail 1450
    
    Steve ,MMA is in dire need of a humor transplant .
    
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    October 7, 2018 2:29pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      He is a leftie troll – born without a sense of humour. A transplant would get rejected
      
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      October 7, 2018 4:17pm
Kavagnaw

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/06/politics/donald-trump-presidency-supreme-court-economy/index.html

All will bend the knee before the God Emperor, or perish. And thus he appointed his grand inquisitor, and a chill spread through the hearts of the evil – the worm-tongues. The Ephialtes grovel.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Kavanaugh+calculated+political+hit&atb=v129-1_f&ia=images&iax=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic-34.sinclairstoryline.com%2Fresources%2Fmedia%2F81269055-4151-4b2a-b3d1-9824f9b3ca90-large16x9_AP_18270694739458.jpg%3F1538240194677

A chill is spread through the hearts of the heathen, the alien, the mutant, the heretic. The red wave and the Trump-slide cometh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mLzFeqWePo
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October 7, 2018 10:54am
- DJ Ward
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoKowg2U8AAIj7l.jpg
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:25am
- Inandout
  
  Brilliant President, brilliant economy, brilliant employment opportunities, make the US great!
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:37am
Kavagnaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqN_P8Ndl94

2 scoops. 2 terms! Say goodbye to DACA. Everyone gets bump stocks for their assault rifle.

Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Armenia, cleansed. Iran next. Then the final boss.
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October 7, 2018 11:19am
- DJ Ward
  
  Fantastic. Anything to stop illegal (immigration) behavour is a good thing.
  
  I think you’ll find that Trump while not innocent is nothing like the incompetent warmonger Obama.
  
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  October 7, 2018 11:29am
- stephieboy
  
  The world under Trump’s ” The Art of the deal”
  
  Hegemony!
  
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  October 7, 2018 12:22pm
- DigNap15
  
  Gee that’s a great video,some very clever people around.
  I downloaded it to my hard drive in case Youtube delete it!
  
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  October 7, 2018 12:33pm
RW Capitalist

Judge Brett Kavanaugh
CONFIRMED
Moving on to actual issues………
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October 7, 2018 11:45am
- Viking2
  
  https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/photos/a.488852220724/10161613078525725/?type=3&theater
  
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  October 7, 2018 2:18pm
- Piniwi
  
  But RW Capitalist TV 1 seem to have a strange interpretation of what actually took place over the last 2 weeks with this: “after a battle that rubbed raw the country’s cultural, gender and political divides.” News but not as we know it.
  
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  October 7, 2018 4:08pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    “News but not as we know it.”
    no but
    Propaganda as we know it.
    
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    October 7, 2018 4:55pm
RW Capitalist

US…lowest unemployment since 1969
US….women the biggest beneficiaries of the newly created jobs (misogynist it’s spelt MISOGYNIST) really? not bad for someone they called a misogynist!!
What Trump did..
Lower taxes and reduce regulation, got 4% growth, increase wages and lower unemployment.
Our bunch of circus clowns have
Increased regulation
Raised taxes
What have they “achieved”?
Higher unemployment
lower growth
Maybe they should be copying Donald Trump’s exam answers and NOT Donald Duck’s.
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October 7, 2018 11:50am
- stephieboy
  
  RW Capitalist, continue the fantasies. Trump cannot take all the credit.
  
  He is not a fairy godfather!
  
  Find out why here,
  
  FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?
  
  https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy
  
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  October 7, 2018 2:22pm
DigNap15

Mike Pence – Lets Do This!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-faces-kavanaugh-protesters-tells-security-detail-lets-do-it-as-he-walks-down-senate-steps

Reading the comments made me proud to be a right wing white male
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October 7, 2018 12:28pm
- Viking2
  
  This is truly the first time since President Reagan, where I feel that we have a President who will not hesitate to protect the Country, get our citizens back from rogue nations, create jobs, and have the best interest of the country at heart.
  
  I’m liking this guy more and more.
  
  sen. kennedy to pelosi…… billy goat brain with mockingbird mouth. classic.
  
  hahaha.
  
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  October 7, 2018 2:21pm
  - stephieboy
    
    V2 said like a true fundie bible belt believer!
    
    https://herb.co/news/culture/bible-belt-christians-weed-is-gods-perfect-medicine/
    
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    October 7, 2018 2:26pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,as usual has no fucking idea whats going on around him,,,,,,
      
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      October 7, 2018 2:33pm
Philview

Taxpayers are contributing $2 to 3 billion towards Kiwibuild. I am not clear on how this money is being spent? Also, it isn’t all that clear on how winners are picked from the ballot. Do the ballot winners have a better chance of winning if they are members of the Labour Party or affiliated to a Union? It seems the income thresholds are fairly high. People on more modest incomes will be paying taxes to enable people who may be on more money than them to buy a new property perhaps more expensive than the one they own.
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October 7, 2018 1:59pm
Jack5

Oversupply of IT workers!

A Stuff article shows how hard it is for young NZ IT graduates to get jobs. Often jobs are impossible.

Yet in the continuing student-visa rorts scandal thousands of young Asians have been coming into NZ purportedly to study for IT careers, though they often are making pizzas and pumping petrol while they wait for their residency to be approved.

Are our politicians who allow this stupid, or corrupt?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/107563779/gap-between-student-expectations-and-employment-chances-in-it-never-wider
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October 7, 2018 2:14pm
- Viking2
  
  There are some 30+ thousand attendees at the Te Awanga. close it and remove the inports.
  
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  October 7, 2018 2:22pm
- cmm
  
  What a silly article.
  
  Not all IT workers are the same.
  
  Come the end of some of the broadband installations, there’s now a surplus of people doing fibre installations.
  
  There’s still a massive shortage of quality programmers etc.
  
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  October 7, 2018 4:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    Sounds like the IT industry could do with something like an apprenticeship system. Everyone wants skilled workers, but no-one wants to train them.
    
    So is a fulltime university (or polytechnic) course the best way to train for IT? Maybe part work, part study as in German-style apprenticeships, and low, low wages to start to reduce the burden on firms.
    
    A swathe of IT jobs are on the list of long term skills sought for NZ. But the world wants the best. And if you are a promising overseas programmer, where are you going to go? California or Auckland? I doubt Auckland wins.
    
    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/why-germany-is-so-much-better-at-training-its-workers/381550/
    
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    October 7, 2018 7:57pm
Viking2

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kavanaugh-confirmation-sparks-sharp-reaction-from-celebrities

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kavanaugh-confirmation-sparks-sharp-reaction-from-celebrities
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October 7, 2018 2:33pm
- mandk
  
  Stuff the celebrities.
  
  They are just a bunch of degenerates that helped to make America weak.
  
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  October 7, 2018 3:12pm
Kavagnaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omd9_FJnerY

All seriousness. The election of President Trump has kept the world from a dark place. That will become more and more apparent until it’s impossible to deny.

No more brother wars on false premises for charlatans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk62CtH6-mg

The west is coming back. As is Christianity. It preserves hope, and longer time preferences.

Read what Ann Barnhardt has to say about what needs to happen to clean up the Church.
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October 7, 2018 3:11pm
Viking2

What does it take to get the edit function fixed please.
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October 7, 2018 3:35pm
Viking2

You and I couldn’t tell the boss we’re taking a few months off for “personal health reasons” but to keep the pay check coming.

The boss’s generosity would no doubt demand a fuller explanation.

Likewise, we couldn’t tell our customers we are off for a few months because: “There are times in life where you have to put your own health and family first. As a husband and a father I need to do that at this time.” Oh, and keep paying like I’m still delivering.

Life for all of us doesn’t work like that. People pay us for what we do. Not irrespective of what we do or whether or not we turn up.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/jami-lee-ross-and-the-national-party-owe-the-electorate-an-explanation.html

So something is amiss.
Mind you there is always one away while collecting pay. Good case for their own sick pay savings.
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October 7, 2018 3:38pm
Jack5

If NZ pisses off Putin, could Russian submarines cut the cables that bring our internet from across the Pacific?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz//world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12138379&ref=clavis
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October 7, 2018 4:05pm
Viking2

P I Staker
The official description is that she is a large toothed female who had difficulty planning a pregnancy and who flounders around like a tadpole out of water. There will be tears. Just you wait and see.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107624723/damien-grant-jacinda-arderns-ramblings-on-the-world-stage-amounts-to-hypocrisy

Not winning many friends these days.
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October 7, 2018 4:28pm
Steve (North Shore)

I did read that Trump has got rid of some 16000 public servants. A new item said ‘another 1000″
Draining the swamp 1000 alligators at a time.
Sorry no link
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October 7, 2018 4:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I suppose their national debt will start coming down soon then, rather than climbing towards $22 trillion at about $1 million per minute.
  http://www.usdebtclock.org/
  
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  October 7, 2018 5:20pm
Morrissey

DUM BRITONS.
Exhibit 1: Michael Gove

We know how terrible U.S. politicians are, but let’s not forget that some of the dullest and dimmest and most ridiculous are in Britain. This blithering pile of incompetence makes Tau Henare look sensitive, Chester Borrows look dapper, and Claire Curran look articulate….

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/10/03/ten-reasons-to-vote-for-jeremy-corbyn/

DUM BRITONS is compiled by Hector Stoop, for Daisycutter Sports Inc.
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October 7, 2018 5:04pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Actually Morris Dancer,
  
  Gove is one of the most learned and intellectual persons you’ll ever meet. I suspect he’s on your list because he is a white, (proper) conservative male.
  
  From my time in the UK, it was actually the Nog politicians who were exceptionally dumb. Names like Dianne Abbot and David Lammy spring to mind (just read these stories❗)
  
  https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/799214/Diane-Abbott-most-excruciating-interview-police-LBC-Labour-Party
  
  https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-lammy-mocked-for-fuming-at-racist-bbc-after-report-on-sistine-chapels-black-and-white-smoke-8532676.html
  
  But then again, I suspect you’re a patronising lefty who holds 3rd worlders to lower standards tham evil YT….
  
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  October 7, 2018 6:01pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Gove is a dunce, as shown by that inept attempt at attacking Europe’s most popular politician.
    
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    October 7, 2018 6:20pm
    - MrTips
      
      Morrisey. Try this: https://www.rxlist.com/intuniv-drug.htm#indications
      
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      October 7, 2018 8:17pm
- notrotsky
  
  Not nearly as awful as this horrid lot though Moz.
  
  https://is-a-cunt.com/2018/02/dawn-butler-munroe-bergdorf/
  
  https://is-a-cunt.com/2018/06/ken-livingstone-7/
  
  https://is-a-cunt.com/2018/05/diane-abbott-9/
  
  https://is-a-cunt.com/2017/06/john-mcdonnell-3/
  
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  October 7, 2018 6:56pm
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    notrotsky, very deep.
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:23pm
RF

Good program on TV one – Sunday.

It points out the erosion of the Westcoast coastline with the sea breaking through sea walls etc around Westport and flooding land and houses.

What’s our useless bloody PM doing about this…. sending fucking money to the islands.

What a twat.
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October 7, 2018 7:45pm
- Viking2
  
  Well as the eastern coast rises on the Pacific Plate the west coast goes under on the Australian Plate.
  simple stuff. Not rising sea levels which Campbell was hinting at.
  Lowering land levels.
  
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  October 7, 2018 9:39pm
  - RF
    
    It would be nice for Ardern to look after her NZ citizens rather than splash money around the islands where it could end up in the wrong hands.
    
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    October 7, 2018 10:07pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, do they think we are thick?
    If the sea level was rising it would happen all round NZ (water finds its own level!)
    
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    October 8, 2018 6:02am
- stephieboy
  
  RF , there are parliamentary appropriations for expenditure that includes foreign aid and I understand it is not dolled out willy-nilly. The $ 5 million or so is not a significant amount by any standards.
  
  Regional fuel taxes and other kinds of expenditure are designed to deal with West Coast coastal erosion problems.
  
  Also maybe the real problem is to take climate change seriously.
  
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