General Debate 6 October 2018

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duggledog

Last night about 30 secs dedicated to expensive gas. The rest of it was how the Seven Sharp presenters tried to lose weight, a famous pug dog and another one of their team Anika Moa released an album. Holmes would be spewing. That’s what you do when the Government changes hard left. Get rid of any platform that could criticize them in HD.

Speaking of.

Anybody seen a gas bowser defaced with ‘Thanks Jacinda’ on it yet? I have.

Kiwis boycott Gas Stations Over High Petrol Prices:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137376

LOL.

How about boycotting the political parties that brought pain at the pump in the first pace with lovely new taxes and a rapidly falling dollar?

Will the low info’s boycott supermarkets too? Watch the cost of consumables reliant on transport (i.e. everything) ripple out from the source now, amplified by different handling costs.

Knowing kiwis they’ll now vote for KiwiGas, oh no, can’t, that’s over eh.

Going to get much, much worse for the Joke Government and the low info / low incomes. Megan’s going to need something real absorbent this summer cos she going to be sweating buckets.
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October 6, 2018 8:00am
- srylands
  
  It is concerning that people think that not filling their cars with petrol for one day will make petrol prices fall.
  
  I didn’t mind the high excise when it was building serious roads. Cycleways not so much.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:12am
  - Southern Raider
    
    I agree as good roads should actually reduce fuel usage by volume so it nets out or actuality saves you
    
    Issue for me is lack of transparency around where the tax goes and how it gets spent and that the CoL cancels major roading projects in favour of other unicorn schemes
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:18am
    - srylands
      
      Think of the petrol that has been burned in the last 40 years by cars waiting to enter the Terrace Tunnel.
      
      Of course in 1976 the road engineers knew that channelling 3 lanes of motorway into a single lane through a tunnel was idiocy.. A great example of the damage that a stupid politician can inflict.
      
      And on a bigger scale, 30 years from now the next generation will regard the decision to ban gas exploration with dismay. Because in 30 years, New Zealand will be using much more natural gas than it does today. All imported.
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:32am
      - Vory v zakone
        
        45% more worldwide by 2050 according to the International Energy Agency
        
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        October 7, 2018 2:35am
  - alloytoo
    
    Boycotting honest merchants because of fuel taxes does not appeal to me.
    
    Perhaps the industry could officially sell it’s fuel from Waikato or Northland and then deliver to a local collection point.
    
    I would be willing to pay a cent or two per litre for the local delivery. (and even buy something at the shop, assuming they supplied a free bag.)
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:43am
  - Woz
    
    I’m wondering when freeloading electric car drivers will be made to pay RUC.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:54am
    - stephen2d
      
      As soon as the number of petrol cars drops by a certain %. Do you really think the gumint would miss an opportunity to collect taxes on something/anything?
      
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      October 6, 2018 5:51pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Ardern would not care if petrol was $8 per litre, she know we need petrol to get to work to pay TAX so she can waste the money. Arrogance – she is full of it.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:52am
- Fletch
  
  You’re right. We ought to be in the halls outside Jacinda’s office protesting at all the tax they’re taking. There’s a facebook post going around showing a photo from Google maps which was taken in June last year. The photo captures a Mobil gas station price of $1.71. We’re now up to $2.50 and over in many places. That’s around 79 cents higher than the price last year. And you can’t blame it all on the price of oil. It’s this greedy government and its tax take.
  
  https://www.facebook.com/franklinlifenz/photos/a.1478326759141658/1921436491497347/?type=3&theater
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:24am
- kowtow
  
  It’s amusing to watch these muppets squirm over the price of petrol and as usual blame the petrol companies, who only get half the price of what they supply.
  
  The real culprit is gubmint ,who love to tax anything that moves.
  
  And it’s also a bit rich of Bridges to jump on the band wagon
  
  ‘ The bumper petrol prices and the already high cost of living are making it difficult for some New Zealand families, National Party leader Simon Bridges said.
  
  “New Zealanders are already paying record prices for petrol, with the national fuel price at $2.44 a litre for 91, around half of which is already tax. That follows the Government adding another 4 cents per litre of tax on petrol overnight.
  
  “And that’s just the first of three 4 cent hikes plus the likelihood Auckland’s 11.5 cents per litre regional fuel tax will soon be rolled out around the rest of the country.
  
  “Under this Government petrol prices have increased by 38 cents, meaning it now costs Kiwis an extra $20 each time they fill up their cars.” ‘
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/kiwis-set-nationwide-petrol-boycott
  
  His party also taxed the life out of it when they had their noses in our trough.
  
  Me , I don’t like paying taxes but I’m enjoying watching all this squirming as at least I’m paying the same rate of tax on my petrol as any COL voter is .
  
  Bwa hahahahaha.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:27am
  - Viking2
    
    He did however get built some splendid roads. Twitford is buying a tram FFS.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:20pm
- Harkman
  
  So before I went off to dreamy-land last night I flicked on CNBC to check the price of everything. The NZD was f’king 64 cents. These f’king traitors running the country should be rounded up and jailed. They’re simply making us poor, nothing else. Sometimes all currencies fall in unison vs the USD but nope the Euro and the Pound haven’t changed. Again they’re just traitors.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:30am
  - Prince
    
    How come our dollar is in freefall ? Wasn’t the world fawning over our PM a couple of weeks ago – ohh, shhh, sorry that was her ad agency bought by our taxes.
    Anyways according to the media, Ardern is just amazeballs and Bridges is a disaster.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:41am
  - gump
    
    The export earnings for New Zealand farmers increase every time our dollar drops. Has it ever occurred to you that our insanely over-valued dollar has been strangling our agricultural and timber exports for years?
    
    On behalf of our hard-working farmers and exporters, I’d like to invite you to go and boil your head.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:12am
    - GazzaW
      
      That’s all well and good gump until the farmer needs to buy his new John Deere or the forestry owner has to purchase some fancy imported kit.
      
      Don’t try and tell us that the devaluation of our dollar is the result of a carefully thought out strategy by Robbo either.
      
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      October 6, 2018 1:50pm
      - gump
        
        If your hypothetical farmers and forestry owners are net exporters then they will both receive a net benefit from a falling dollar.
        
        The falling dollar is fantastic news for our farming sector, forestry sector, and all other exporters.
        
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        October 6, 2018 2:04pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Pointless GazzaW as they are just parroting the sage words of sweet cheeks making it garbage in garbage out in repeater station fashion. Things are not as peachy for any farmers/exporters since even with a “favouable” exchange rate the Balance of Payments has turned RED. Export returns are one side of the equation but even they are not protected from increasing fuel costs or the growing inflation rate. They do not have the luxury of getting much gain for a short term lift as they too battle higher fuel costs and growing inflation. They also will be very concerned with the bigger impacts of rising labour costs as well as the threat of emission taxes with Greenpeace again trying to dictate by dominating submissions to the Zero target plan.
        The other side of the equation that will be scary for exporters is the Balance of Payments not just from watching the falling dollar but how it will impact on not just costs but future plans. Likewise if fears of another dairy glut come to pass they will need every cent of any dollar they can gain. The Jones boy has indicated log exports are note the proffered form. He wants it to be value added timber which only illustrates he is as thick as he is fat. The bulk of log exports are graded well below the premium grade and are sold into a very competitive market after a lot of hard work by the industry. Then he intends to vastly expand processing in a region where they lack not only the tress by the resources and infrastructure to get it shipped. Absolutely mind blowing any sane person would ever let him anywhere ANY export destination let alone our largest. He would even be puzzled by there being no numbered dishes to order in China but like the Pinese chop sticks.
        The left will never ever get a grasp of cause and effect or stop walking backwards for all that hindsight to appear as forward thinking.
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:19pm
    - Harkman
      
      Yes those Fonterra tankers run on pixie dust. Just like the cattle trucks, the planes the tourists fly in on and the camper vans they drive around on. You do know that in 1928/29 the exchange rate was $2.43, our nominal gdp was 3rd behind the US and Australia and we ran a 4% of gdp surplus? The other day we ran the largest trade deficit in our history. Every time our currency falls it magnifies the income our talented/productive citizens can earn overseas.
      
      It’s good to know that my standard of living should take hit because you can’t add value to your product. Yet Nestlé has had to deal with currency appreciation for over 100 years and has done just fine.
      
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      October 6, 2018 3:05pm
      - gump
        
        International airlines and campervan operators benefit massively from a falling NZD because it boosts tourism by making every single tourism product in NZ cheaper for overseas visitors. Do I really need to explain this to you?
        
        And as for your argument that Nestlé has had to deal with one hundred years of currency appreciation, where exactly do you think they manufacture their products? Do you actually believe they are manufacturing Milo in Switzerland and exporting it to New Zealand?!?
        
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        October 6, 2018 3:37pm
  - Paulus
    
    One good thing my UK Stg private pension is getting better at last – yes I pay NZ tax on it.
    Now 59, was 38 once.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:36pm
Sofia

Bridges has not made too many mistakes since becoming leader in February – the biggest one was commissioning the inquiry into the leaked expenses.

Audrey Young joins several other journalists who change history slightly to suit their needs.

It actually seemed, from earlier reports, that it was Speaker Mallard who instigated the expenses related inquiry, to maintain the integrity of Parliamentary communications, but then he decided it was a National Party problem.

That was after the leaker texted Mallard, the media and Bridges to confess that he / she had a history of mental illness and threaten to severely harm themself if identified.
That was where Mallard dropped his inquiry and Bridges decided he should commission one himself.

Which seemed reasonable given that the Speaker of Parliament, as well as Winston who can never help himself, indicated that a person who was so mentally unstable as to promise serious self-harm, should be a sitting Member of Parliament, presumably contributing through that mental disposition to helping run the country – as much as an Opposition Member does.

The triviality of the expenses leak now only has relevance – not to Bridges actions – but the illogical thinking of the mentally-ill Member.

Surely Audrey Young is old enough to get her facts right.
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October 6, 2018 8:08am
- Southern Raider
  
  Audrey Young is just another left wing troll doing her parties bidding.
  
  However wrong her article is I don’t think it gets around the fact that National needs a new leader but doesn’t have any options
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:11am
  - KevOB
    
    What’s coming up from the COL that they are running “Lets attack Bridges week”?
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:28am
    - alloytoo
      
      Internal polling suggests…….
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:31am
      - Harkman
        
        Dont you mean UMR?
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:36am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/09/poll-how-would-you-rate-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-s-performance-in-new-york-this-week.html
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:48am
      - simpleton1
        
        newshub poll just did 90% Poor rating; 2.00pm
        🙂
        
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        October 6, 2018 2:07pm
      - Viking2
        
        100% poor at 10.11
        hahahahaha :rofl:
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:14pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Right KevOB all started by the old drunk like the pied piper he is turning out to be for the COL. He as even coached some of the dumber Minsters to follow his lead in OQT as he sets the standard answer line for all questions. His favorite is ducking for cover of “all policy decisions being approved by cabinet”. Yeah right. He is desperate to try and disrupt the opposition by targeting Simon Bridges who has had him increasingly rattled but is envious of the strong team he leads. No coalition complications as well as some strong members sticking to other Ministers the old drunk is worried will fold. More interesting for spectators is the upcoming next chapter of the COL power struggle as they have reached 15 all. We are all eagerly awaiting the moment when they reach match point to see who gets the cup and who ends up the mug. Obviously the signal has gone out to the Media party as they fall in behind the pied piper at the moment since the silly little girl can not handle the heat in the kitchen.
      Funny but interesting parallel is how effective a good sticky trap is to catch rats. Latest one only got caught by the tail but was equally doomed as the one who raced in getting two feet stuck and short of the snack. Silent, effective and economical.
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:46pm
Southern Raider

Interesting that Stuff has been running stories this week about how feral many Hosuing NZ tenants are and how HNZ doesn’t give a care at all for other law abiding tax payers in the same street or apartment block.

There should be a secure lock up somewhere for the most feral tenants to keep them away from everyone else.

In one article a women in a street was the one bashing her boyfriend and when he moved out she keep the parties going and invited lots of young males around eventuating in a near fatality.
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October 6, 2018 8:08am
- artemisia
  
  Possibly neighbours could apply to the Disputes Tribunal. Some ideas here –
  
  http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=1773604&topic=21
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:53am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Doesn’t seem to have any impact as HNZ has introduced “sustainability tenancies” or something like that which means they have been told no matter what don’t move tenants on
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:55am
    - artemisia
      
      So what about the idea of asking the Disputes Tribunal to rule that Housing NZ pay for regular security patrols in the specific street under application?
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:32am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      The government can buy the surrounding properties, at market value, to add to their total?
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:41pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Secure lock up, prison?
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:22am
- GoVege
  
  And eventuating in more neglected and abused fatherless kids dragged up on the benny no doubt….
  
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  October 6, 2018 1:01pm
- Piniwi
  
  Funny Southern Raider “In a Quiet Little Town Down South” where rentals are getting very scarce. They have the absolute best soil for a “home” garden where tomato looking plants never bear fruit but can be quickly dried with the longest sunshine hours. But even in these normally quiet locations residents are being pushed past boiling point.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:56pm
Southern Raider

My local Countdown goes bag free on Monday

Which we had some local competition so I could vote with my feet.
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October 6, 2018 8:10am
- DigNap15
  
  Mine Too
  I’ve bought a whole lot of single use plastic bags and I plan to take them into to Countdown every week!
  
  I’m thinking of getting a whole lot from Ali- Babas printed with a cool saying.
  
  Like F the Greens
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  Make Single Use Bags Great Again
  or
  I don’t litter
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:16am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Make Single Use Bags Great Again. I like that.
    Maybe on a hat? Embroidery shop in Glenfield Mall will sew it on the cap for you
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:58am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    S…..ingle
    U….se
    G….reat
    A….gain
    But aren’t the bringing in a SUGA…R tax?
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:54am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Everyone should get bags with their names and addresses on so that we can track them individually, seems a better use of money than some others.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:26am
  - Viking2
    
    When will they be ready?
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:21pm
- srylands
  
  And the resources consumed to make reusable bags…
  
  I bought a nice bag at New World. First time I use it some meat leaks blood on the bottom of it. Straight in the trash can.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:17am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And that bag is equivalent to about 1000 plastic bags
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:19am
    - artemisia
      
      20,000 if organic cotton, according to MBIE’s consultation document.
      
      That would be the consultation process that was gazumped by the Prime Minister’s captain’s call within a couple of days – never mind the consultation, we’re doing it anyway. So there.
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:56am
  - GoVege
    
    If you think animal blood is so toxic….how do you manage to eat them? 🙂
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:09pm
    - stephen2d
      
      With some fries and peppercorn sauce!
      
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      October 6, 2018 3:49pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Yum!
        
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        October 6, 2018 4:52pm
  - Viking2
    
    hahahaha. serves you right for pandering to the pricks.
    Checkout girls reckon there are plenty of smelly bags coming through.
    Now that creates a work p[lace Health and Safety issue for their employers.
    Great. Sack the tits useless pricks.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:24pm
  - backster
    
    Our Paknsave has stopped putting the fresh fish in plastic bags like they always used too, Now the brown paper is soggy with fish fluid by the time you get home.
    
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    October 6, 2018 3:39pm
- holysheet
  
  You can go one better. Fill your trolley up, and go to the counter.Put all the goods on the checkout. When they start to pack and ask for your bags, say you haven’t got any. If they try to charge you for bags, just leave the good there and walk out.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:19am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Or do what they did in Whangapoura and just take all the plastic baskets home instead
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:20am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes I’d thought about that, or bring in some big plastic boxes so I can put them in my car easily!
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:21am
    - KiWombat
      
      I’m starting to collect the green carry baskets as they no longer give us plastic bags. Got 6 already – wonder when they will begin to notice that their stock of baskets is diminishing ?
      
      BTW – they are great in the shed for storing bits ‘n pieces – and stack tidily on shelves too !
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:25am
      - gump
        
        That makes you a thief.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:15am
      - holysheet
        
        You liabores know all about theft, especially from the taxpayer.
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:16pm
- GazzaW
  
  I dutifully take iridescent yellow PaknSave plastic bags to my recently bagless Countdown and have the checkout ladies pack them with my groceries. The Countdown supervisors hate it with a vengeance.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:21am
  - MCos
    
    So you buy bags at one supermarket to use at another to piss them off.
    
    Makes sense.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:35am
    - itstricky
      
      SJWs will do anything, these days.
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:45am
    - GazzaW
      
      No comrade, I leave such illogical behaviour to the lefties ;=). I purchase PaknSave bags by the hundred and have done so for years because for the price they make for the very best binliners – strong too.
      Their trip to Countdown is just an intermediate step on their way to their binlining function.
      
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      October 6, 2018 11:27am
  - artemisia
    
    Those Pak n Save bags are larger and much sturdier than the usual supermarket ones (as once were). And very visible.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:35am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Plus it is a small dignified protest, I haven’t bought any reuseable bags or plastic bags yet for the purpose, banana boxes in the boot of the car work well but I have voiced my displeasure, not the check out operators fault of course, so it can be seemly.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:37am
  - Harkman
    
    Why buy? I just get a couple things at New World and take three bags.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:39am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      I have one of those old fashioned material sleeves stuffed full still, but I would never remember to take them to town with me.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:39am
      - waikatogirl
        
        I hate having to remember the bags. I’ve managed to keep them in the boot of my car but never remember to take them inside which means returning to the car before a second try. Just makes me even more pissed off having to go to the supermarket. I’m avoiding Countdown, I feel like a criminal if I don’t have the ‘correct’ bags! ?
        
        A few weeks ago a visitor asked me for a couple of bags (one for dirty nappy) for her child. I rationed her to 2. We lamented on how annoying it is there will not be supermarket plastic bags around as they are SO VERY USEFUL for so many items!
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:09pm
  - GoVege
    
    Why?
    Countdown has the best reusable plastic bags for only 15 cents!
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:11pm
- Jules99
  
  All three of my local Countdowns have gone bag free, but I have plenty of competition including a good PakNSave where they will put the goods in your bag if you position it in the trolley. Pretty much no reason to go to Countdown now. New World seem to be doing it better – encouragement rather than force. I’m happy to take a bag, but sometimes I forget and need one. The other problem over this – I’ve been hoarding for some time in anticipation of bags being removed. I suspect many people have which could be leading to MORE plastic bag usage not less.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:37am
  - MCos
    
    Personally I all for cutting down on plastic bag usage in the supermarket.
    I have a couple of suggestions for the supermarkets.
    Don’t prepackage bananas, tomatoes, potatoes etc in plastic. They already have natural packaging.
    Use paper bags for loose items in the bakery section.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:57am
    - toby1845
      
      Good ideas. I have another one.
      
      Use a combination of higher fuel prices, increased compliance costs and a collapsing dollar to increase food prices, so that people on lower incomes can’t afford to buy as much.
      
      Oh, hang on……
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:07am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “Personally I all for cutting down on plastic bag usage in the supermarket.”
      Me too.
      I’m against being FORCED to and being told that I am somehow a lesser human being if I don’t agree with them on this (and many other issues).
      I have had reusable cloth bags for years, picked them up at various trade shows and the like.
      I sometimes forget to take them out of the car and can’t be bothered to go back and get them. For this reason I want the single use kind and not to be judged for it.
      Also, they are NEVER single use in my house.
      Divide the recycling (plastic, glass, card board etc) into the bags.
      Kitchen tidy liners.
      I’m certain I’m NOT the only one.
      Unlike the greenies, we just don’t make a big song and dance about it (virtue signal)
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:02am
      - stephieboy
        
        “I’m against being FORCED to and being told that I am somehow a lesser human being if I don’t agree with them on this (and many other issues)”
        
        You poor thing.
        
        Tsk, tsk, tsk..
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:07am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        and stephie the pratt speaks.
        A pilloch of society.
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:21am
  - Fletch
    
    Every time I go to Countdown I don’t think about until I’m inside and then I feel a great annoyance at them for sacrificing convenience on the alter of green activism. Then I have to work out what I’m going to do. It’s just an added layer of nuisance.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:32am
    - artemisia
      
      I expect your actions in Countdown will involve buying only the 2 things you can carry. Rather than the 12 things in a bag for each hand. Sensible decision making, and saving money at the same time.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:18am
      - Fletch
        
        I went in this afternoon for a few things, and used one of the bags from the fruit dept to put my things in 😉 Not as big as a ‘single use’ bag, but enough for a few items.
        
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        October 6, 2018 2:05pm
    - Viking2
      
      Mega 10 the same. Go spend a few hundy on bits and pieces and carry them out in you jacket.
      Insulting to the customer.
      
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      October 6, 2018 1:28pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        And get accused of shop lifting.
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:34pm
  - Harkman
    
    Countdown does seem to be killing itself. The plastic bags were the only thing they had going.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:40am
    - stephieboy
      
      Then move to Pak n Save or Cnr Dairy, or next time bring your handbag!
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:08am
      - VicParking
        
        Saddle bags on a goat?
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:06am
    - Jules99
      
      Just popped in to Countdown to pick something up for my mum (took my PnS bags of course). Gosh, 10am on Saturday morning, and it was very quiet. No queue at the checkout.
      
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      October 6, 2018 11:56am
      - holysheet
        
        Go there an hour later and it would be all on. Parents go to the supermarket after taking their kids to sports etc.
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:21pm
  - lifesgood
    
    I must have a couple of hundred hoarded. I also learnt a nifty way of folding them for storage so they don’t take up much room. I’m really pissed off about Countdown. It was never about the environment it was simply for them to make massive savings to improve their profits.
    
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    October 6, 2018 4:58pm
- Inandout
  
  Shopping for essential articles only means you need to use only one or two plastic bags (preferably from the opposition). New World in some areas are delaying their changeover until after Christmas. As one checkout operator commented, ‘there will be enough chaos during the Christmas break without having to pack bloody hessian bags’. Countdown thinks because they have struck Aussie resistance to no plastic bags, kiwis are more malleable. I have news for them because I will be a stroppy bastard, based on the premise that the customer is always right.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:50am
  - Viking2
    
    What it can’t be so.
    The customer being right.
    Nah the supermarkets and the lefties will never have that.
    Fucked in the head they are.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:30pm
- VicParking
  
  Visit the store with bare feet (muddy) and say you are going leather free.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:53am
  - Inandout
    
    Or ask them to empty plastic water bottles into a large water container at the checkout because you hate plastic. Virtue signal to the max.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:57am
- Southern Raider
  
  As with most people I suspect we use our shopping bags as waste bin liners.
  
  All this means is now I buy bigger and thicker waste bin liners that probably create more waste
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:58am
- krazykiwi
  
  I never had so-called ‘single use’ bags previously. A bag from the supermarket would bring food home to the house, be used for taking gym to the office.. and smelly gym gear home. Eventually it would end up being a rubbish bag.
  
  And now? I’ll by plastic bags for a single use – rubbish.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:56am
- howitis
  
  I got sick of the Aussie Crim Countdown’s :-
  -over pricing on pretty much all items
  -not honouring discounts displayed
  -having to hand over a card that tracks all your purchases to get any discount when New World dropped this nonsense years ago
  -sloooow sloooow ‘service’ lines /checkouts
  -hopelessly unreliable so called self checkout
  -limited car parking
  – to buy a bottle of wine was major drama
  
  solution:-
  I purchased a chest freezer and shop at Pak n Save once a month.
  Royal Oak not Mogadishu/Mont Albert.
  There are staff out on the floor to help if needed and practice is to take you to the item you request not grunt and shake your finger like a Crim Countdown monkey.
  A couple of 60 litre Sistema plastic boxes (oooh plastic! ) to store surplus food items in basement
  How can the Aussie Crims’ Countdown/woolies justify the high prices when they are now effectively
  ‘Pak it yourself and NO save’ ?
  
  The Foodtown/Woolies/Regressive Enterprise outfit turned to poo when Ted Van Arkel left circa 2005.
  The nearest two less-than-super-markets are this Countdown Crim Mob
  I prefer to go further afield.
  There are plenty of Fruit and Vege stores with milk nearby for fresh stuff in between big shops.
  
  PS. Can I get my milk in a glass bottle please?
  Transfer it over on the counter to a glass container and leave the dirty plastic milk container behind.
  Uh Oh!
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:19am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

A-salaam aliekum Kiwibloggers
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October 6, 2018 8:10am
- Swifty
  
  Islam will rot your brain, don’t you know.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:38am
  - VicParking
    
    Only if you dont bang your head on the floor five times a day.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:55am
  - Woz
    
    It already has, it seems.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:57am
  - MCos
    
    When I was a kid there was a push for Catholics to say a family rosary every night. After a week mother said, this is stupid, so that was the end of that.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:06am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I’ve seen some of your comments here, imagine the damage if mother had held out for two weeks . . . . .
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:25am
  - Tall Man
    
    Need a brain first.
    
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    October 7, 2018 1:34am
G152

Funnily enough its the poor left who voted for their own punishment by the COL.
People who before could just only scrape by and now have higher power prices, higher rents, sky high food prices and more expensive travel costs.
Well done COL
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October 6, 2018 8:10am
- Viking2
  
  Hahahahaha.
  Stupid is as stupid does.
  
  Wait till they can’t get a rental house and the Col hasn’t managed to build or buy any.
  Its time the residents of streets had a say on who buys in the street and who lives there.
  something Swiss like.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:15am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I worry about you, V2. When the other residents of your street vote you out, where will you go? I can’t afford to take you in.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:37am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      mikenmildagain,
      
      What part of “group harmony” don’t you understand?
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:54am
      - gump
        
        What part of “property rights” don’t you understand?
        
        I find it highly instructive to watch how Kiwiblog commentators switch effortlessly between “property rights are sacred” and “your neighbours should be in charge of controlling your property rights”.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:21am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        gump,
        
        Part of the misunderstanding is over the meaning of the word “neighbors.”
        In suburban (and particularly in rural) Japan, the “neighbors” are akin to pre-war northern England ones. In other words, you are born in the valley, you grow up in the valley, and if you set up your household there, you die in the valley.
        Not so in Auckland. I don’t even know the names of my neighbors (they don’t speak the same language). The last lot were Russian. Never introduced themselves. Had loud parties. Flipped their property and left a year ago. The new neighbors are Chinese and we hardly ever see them.
        
        In the old world, you know each and everyone of your neighbors, and you share a real sense of community and common values.
        
        Harmony with your neighboring community is very important. Not so in Auckland, it seems. (Well, maybe many years ago when people didn’t move around a lot.)
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:30pm
      - gump
        
        Odakyu-sen,
        
        Some of us grew up in small rural towns and found them claustrophobic, stultifying, and intolerant of anybody who didn’t fit in.
        
        Which is why we left them behind and moved to cities which exposed us to new ideas and allowed us to grow.
        
        The only people who romanticise the communities you are describing are the people who haven’t lived in them.
        
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        October 6, 2018 5:45pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Shouldn’t have voted Labour then, then perhaps you could afford charity.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:46am
    - Viking2
      
      No need to worry about me MM. I’m the BOSS.
      Friendly bugger as well. Had to get rid of one lot of Mongrels a few years back. Took me 3 weeks.
      
      If they had not been gone the house would have been reduced to cinders in no time. Its still there housing scum but I don’t live alongside although I still own the house.
      
      We need more skilled arsonists, seems there is a shortage of them around.
      
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      October 6, 2018 1:38pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Issue is CoL will cost them an extra $100 per week and give them a $50 welfare top up and they are stupid enough to think they are better off
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:21am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, but the Greens want to give them another $200 a week!
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:39am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Of MY money.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:08am
      - stephieboy
        
        “MY”….. ?
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:48am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        YUP stephie I pay tax, therefore it is MY money.
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:55am
holysheet

A man wakes up in the hospital, bandaged from head to foot. The doctor comes in and says, “Ah, I see you’ve regained consciousness. Now, you probably won’t remember, but you were in a pile-up on the motorway. You’re going to be okay, you’ll walk again and everything, but… Something happened. I’m trying to break this gently, but the fact is, your willy was chopped off in the wreck and we were unable to find it.”
The man groans, but the doctor goes on, “You’ve got $9,000 in insurance compensation coming and we have the technology now to build you a new willy that will work as well as your old one did – better in fact! But the thing is, it doesn’t come cheap. It’s $1,000 an inch.” The man perks up at this. “So,” the doctor says, “It’s for you to decide how many inches you want. But it’s something you’d better discuss with your wife. I mean, if you had a five inch one before, and you decide to go for a nine incher, she might be a bit put out. But if you had a nine inch one before, and you decide only to invest in a five incher this time, she might be disappointed. So it’s important that she plays a role in helping you make the decision.”
The man agrees to talk with his wife. The doctor comes back the next day. “So,” says the doctor, “have you spoken with your wife?” “I have,” says the man. “And what is the decision?” asks the doctor. “It appears we’re having a new kitchen”
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October 6, 2018 8:15am
Huevon

This morning on Radio NZ:
– interview with angry bull dyke Anika Moa
– an American feminist
– musical session with a “gender queer artist”

Why the hell are we paying taxes to fund these extremist weirdos? They can use the airwaves all they like, I don’t care. But why am forced with potential penalty of imprisonment to pay for this crap.
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October 6, 2018 8:16am
- Inandout
  
  Don’t listen to the propaganda station, just go online or go for a walk. Even so called music stations still find time to have a dig at Trump or cuddle up to the CoL. I can’t remember the last time I visited National radio.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:23am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I will be giving all of that a wide berth this weekend, as I feast on an orgy of oil consumption and emission creation from the New South Wales town of Bathurst 😀
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:42am
    - Southern Raider
      
      A nightmare for the CoL.
      
      Imagine chaining Green MPs to the back of a truck and parking it on Mt Panorama. They would need more therapy than normal or maybe it would straighten them amount.
      
      When do you think Green MPs in NSW government will start calling for Bathurst to be cancelled?
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:06am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I don’t think there’s a greenie with enough bottle to take on the Mt Panorama soap dodgers.
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:14am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Supercars run on E85 Ethanol, watching Bathurst is one on the Greenest things we can do to help the Planet this weekend ?
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:11am
      - stephieboy
        
        That will get the v8 12 petrol tards wound up!
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:46am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        The 100,000 spectator vehicles don’t!
        
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        October 6, 2018 9:53am
      - KevOB
        
        We could make ethanol here from rubbish. Alberta does.
        https://enerkem.com/
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout,
    
    “I can’t remember the last time I visited National radio.”
    
    It shows or is Altzheimers setting in?
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:41am
    - alwyn
      
      In your case, stephieboy, it is clearly Alzheimers.
      You have even forgotten how to spell the word.
      Hint. Don’t drink so much “t”.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:02am
- GazzaW
  
  …..and all no doubt orchestrated by weirdo Kim Hill.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:25am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Inandout is right – don’t listen to things that offend your sensibilities. Stay in your safe space, snowflake
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:38am
  - kowtow
    
    As always milky misses the point.
    
    If we’re paying for it we own it, and have every right to an opinion on it.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:08am
    - SGA
      
      Even if you don’t own it, I think you probably have a right to have an opinion. I have opinions of lots of radio stations, but typically, and as mm suggests, I just vote with my feet.
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:50am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Just so long as that extends to paying the bill.
    Why should we pay for this partisan balderdash?
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:11am
- itstricky
  
  You seem very focused on who they are and what they do with their downstairs rather than what they’re saying.
  
  Seems very un-Kiwiblog like.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:48am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Busybody snowflakes always obsessed with others’ personal lives – a very unhealthy fascination.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:53am
  - kowtow
    
    The media are the ones who are very focussed on everything “downstairs”
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:10am
- G152
  
  Those erstwhiles are squirrels.
  It’s ‘look over there’ time
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:55am
- mandk
  
  Time to start agitating for the shut down of state-owned broadcast media.
  
  There’s absolutely no case for them in this day and age.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    mandk, well hang in there till 2020 and have your 0000. 1 % say!
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:36am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Especially not for propaganda purposes.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:27pm
DigNap15

Yes and I watched the Miss Asia Pacific Contest last night.
Every question was all about cultural diversity and how the girls would stop preduice, or help the refugees!
It made me want to spew.
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October 6, 2018 8:18am
- itstricky
  
  This one has to be a joke. You sat through a pageant? What did you expect to hear? The latest revelations on whether or not white holes exist in The Universe?
  
  Another offended snowflake.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:52am
  - softail 1450
    
    itssticky ,,a few of those “white holes” could possibly make you a less bitter and twisted individual sticky ?
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:12am
    - itstricky
      
      What I need is a big engine humming between my legs. I’m 110% sure that will sort out all of my insecurities, childhood traumas and general psychological issues.
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:47am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Too much information lol.
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:52am
DigNap15

I’m going to push back on all this crap!
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October 6, 2018 8:18am
- itstricky
  
  Well, you’re half way there with all your bulk plastic bag purchases and crying about what pageant competitors talk about. That’ll learn ’em.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:43am
DigNap15

This escaped parolee will not be too hard to find

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107639181/police-hunt-dangerous-mongrel-mob-member
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October 6, 2018 8:20am
- Inandout
  
  If you miss this guy go and see Specsavers.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:24am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I don’t know so much, looks pretty normal for Flaxmere; in fact almost under-tated for that neighbourhood so should stand out a bit.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:32am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I suppose we have to pay this awful prick to exist for the rest of his natural life.
    Seems like a waste of money to me.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:51am
- softail 1450
  
  DigNap15, On the contrary Dig ,this guy could hide himself invisibly on most graffitied walls in south Auckland,no wonder the cops can’t find him.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:49am
- Wangas Feral
  
  In Wangas you would be hard pressed to pick him out of a line-up.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:39am
- kowtow
  
  Rubbish item by the msm as usual.
  
  Clearly fake news .
  
  He can’t be ‘dangerous’ if he was given parole.
  
  Either the parole board are c#nts for letting him out and endangering the public or the media are lying ………
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:11am
Swifty

Was the New York advertising agency work tendered or was it a direct appointment?

What are the rules to be followed for this sort of procurement and were they observed?
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October 6, 2018 8:34am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Rules are for other people Swifty…
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:44am
- softail 1450
  
  Swifty ,,,NO.
  
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  October 6, 2018 8:51am
- VicParking
  
  You an’t seen nothing yet. Wait till Harry and Meghan arrive. They will need to put fliters on the camera lens to dull down the glare from those two front teeth.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:18am
- KevOB
  
  Jacinda can choose whom she likes so long as she pays.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:00pm
- backster
  
  She doesn’t know.
  
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  October 6, 2018 3:48pm
Hugh Pavletich

Comment to the below from an Irish colleague …

‘As to the Irish and housing, you will know the saying ” Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results! !” ‘
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… Irish housing debacle: Nothing learned about the critical importance of open land supply and appropriate debt financing of infrastructure …

… via … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/links-5-october-2018/

Unlike New Zealanders ( refer http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/ ) , Ireland, with (of all things) its British style planning system, has not learned a thing following the 2007 crash, about the critical importance of open land supply and the appropriate debt financing of infrastructure …

Thousands march on Irish parliament in growing housing shortage protest … Reuters / MSM Com

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/thousands-march-on-irish-parliament-in-growing-housing-shortage-protest/ar-BBNSIZ0

With its British style planning system, the Irish housing bubble burst in 2007, when its major metros went from 4.7 times annual household incomes to 2.8 times some years later, putting all its Banks to the wall and requiring bailouts of in excess of 70 billion euros …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm

Why are they repeating the mistakes of recent history ?
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October 6, 2018 8:36am
- VicParking
  
  For the same reason you repeat the same mistakes day after day, by getting up in the morning.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:16am
DigNap15

There has not been a politcal poll for while.
I suppose the media with their falling viewer are finding them harder to afford.

There must be an easy way to run a poll say of the same 1,000 people, every month or so, via an app.
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October 6, 2018 8:43am
- JibberJabber
  
  It is all rather fascinating, the bi-weekly MSM gummint popularity opinion polls during the previous administration have vanished completely, can`t imagine why ?
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:16am
  - krazykiwi
    
    That’s right. I also noticed that there are now, miraculously is seems, no people living in cars.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:02am
  - alwyn
    
    The polls you refer to, as in bi-weekly, were provided, gratis as far as I know, by Roy Morgan. They are an Australian polling company and not a MSM organisation.
    As far as the MSM go we have One News, Newshub and The Herald. In the first year of the last Government, ie up to October 2015, we had 5 from One News, 4 from Newshub and 3 from The Herald.
    In the last year we have had 5 from One News, 2 from Newshub and none from The Herald.
    The Herald is, of course, no longer a newspaper but merely a gossip rag so their no longer doing them is hardly surprising. Why Newshub has cut back is less understandable.
    TVNZ is carrying on as it ever did.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:27am
    - lifesgood
      
      Are you sure they haven’t had a poll? I’m suspicious. Perhaps the results weren’t to their liking so they have been quietly discarded.
      
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      October 6, 2018 5:12pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Or have a poll with say 900 one specific race of people, ask them if they have been brutalised by colonisation and then publish the results with preordained shock and horror !
  
  How could this not be a recipe for objective information collation, analysis and distribution?
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:30am
DigNap15

Just imagine our prison population if we jailed all of the guys on Home Detention who would have been jailed 20 years ago before they came up with stupid idea!
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October 6, 2018 8:45am
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Kim Hill is interviewing a lawyer from the Bronx who laments “good” fathers killing their children.
Robin Bain did, Mark Lundy did not.
Unsurprisingly she laments the violence of Mark Lundy, but does not describe incestuous Robin and his rampage to amend things.
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October 6, 2018 8:52am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The Mark Lundy fan club meets again.
  In an aeroplane toilet.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:09am
  - VicParking
    
    No room, they are full of teachers with their pupils
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:14am
  - Notsofast
    
    You are absolutely correct, the fan club can crowd one microphone. Interestingly this says a little about the New Zealand community, but that irony is lost in the echo room of this message board.
    
    Any idea why it takes a year to decide his appeal? The fan club are genuinely perplexed, but it does suggest a degree of perplexity, probably figuring how to break the shock news to the inheritors.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:27am
- Harkman
  
  “Robin Bain did, Mark Lundy did not.”
  
  I think you will find Robin did not and Lundy did.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:45am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I absolutely concur.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:54am
    - Notsofast
      
      Keeping Stock:
      It saddens me to hear you say this. I attended the appeal of Mark Lundy, and Helen Winkelmann j was convinced of Mark’s innocence. This is a statement of fact. Steve Braunias MC’d a lunch in Hamilton where Jacinda Ardern was present. He said, if any of you still believe Mark Lundy is guilty I want you to change your fuckin minds. We know he lunched with Jacinda during the appeal, she is no fool. The family of Christine Lundy banked the life insurance, 250k, so must believe the disgraceful lies of the Palmerston North police. You have no such obligation.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:50am
      - holysheet
        
        Jacinda during the appeal, she is no fool.
        
        Her actions are proving this is a lie. If Cindy is not a fool then I don’t know what you would call her. Even Trev calls her a silly little girl.
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:34pm
  - Notsofast
    
    A common view.
    Earth at the center was a common view, and Galileo nearly hanged for explaining the contrary.
    History books will describe an incestuous Robin Bain (motive) and an all New Zealand small business family man Mark Lundy (no motive).
    You can have miscarriage of justice minister piggy Collins for your heroine.
    God defend New Zealand against that prospect.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:56am
    - stephieboy
      
      How are Bain and family doing in OZ?
      
      Still paying off legal and Karam’s bills?
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:04am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I hadn’t seen the Galileo Gambit on Kiwiblog for a while.
      “Galileo was persecuted for saying the Earth moves, so my bullshit today must be true”
      https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Galileo_gambit
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:58am
      - Notsofast
        
        The earth centerd world required epicycles, everything moved but the core facts, these were ignored. This is the case in the Lundy hoax, where he did not dress in a full biohazard suit, drive to Palmerston and slaughter the only people he loved.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:35am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      So easy to speak ill of the dead, as they can not be defamed.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:13pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Because he wasn’t, do you have proof to the contrary?
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:08am
  - Notsofast
    
    Not sure of the question Rachael. I have spent a great deal of time on these cases, and read the books and source documents. If the question is about incest, Laniet told Dean Cottle, then she confronted her father with her mother, then went to the cash machine at 11pm, then got shot.
    David Bain is too much of a gentleman to discuss these matters and has suffered under the ministries of Phil Goff and Judith Collins accordingly. Both these arseholes should rot in hell.
    Note that Laniet had her bills paid by Robin.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:30am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Dean Cottle was such a robust witness, he didn’t even turn up to be cross examined if I recall correctly, and his written statement (and as such hearsay) was given undue gravitas by being read out by the judge ffs.
      
      I prefer the views of Robin held by his colleagues and his family.
      
      Um he was her father, why wouldn’t he pay bills for her when she had no income, you are implying that her father was paying her bills for either her silence or for services rendered or both.
      
      Cottle was her pimp, not her friend, and more than likely was getting his pound of flesh also.
      That poor girl was used, abused and confused but not in my opinion by her father.
      
      If I remember correctly she apparently spoke of having given birth to a black baby at a very young age in Papua New Guinea, to some of her fellow prostitutes but had no physical signs of having given birth during autopsy.
      
      As for David, wasn’t he the only lucky one who ‘deserved to stay’.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:06pm
Hugh Pavletich

New Zealand dollar heading to GFC lows by end of the year, ANZ (Bank) says … Stuff NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/107637408/new-zealand-dollar-heading-to-gfc-lows-by-end-of-the-year-anz-says?cid=app-iPad

… falling like a brick …

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/quote/NZDUSD=X?p=NZDUSD=X

The New Zealand dollar has taken a dive against the greenback and will continue to fall to levels not seen since the global financial crisis, ANZ predicts. … read more via hyperlinks above …
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The Great Bond Sell – Off … Martin North of Digital Finance Analytics … Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duv0peMNFWU
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… Note what Sir Ron Brierley said about 12 months ago …

30 years on, Lessons of the 1987 share market crash with former PM Paul Keating (and others) … ABC The Business 18 October 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhiE_zXAxx8

Ron Brierley – Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Brierley
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October 6, 2018 9:07am
- VicParking
  
  Hugh, try getting out of the other side of the bed.
  Trolls to the Left, Elves to the right.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:13am
- DJ Ward
  
  There is some issues with a falling dollar for the banks lending such huge sums in housing. They borrow foreign money as NZ deposits don’t get anywhere near demand. If the dollar falls 10% in a year they make a loss. However it’s not realised for many years, until their foreign loan is due to be paid. So nothing happens. If however the low dollar is sustained for many years they may have to realise the loss. Interest rates must rise to compensate.
  
  Then the shit hits the fan.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:25am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I am not an expert, but I can’t help but notice the sudden rise in the US 10-year treasury yield
    
    Ref: https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=US10Y
    
    Have a look at the long-term chart and drawn your own conclusions.
    These 50-year low mortgage rates in NZ can’t go on forever…
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:35am
  - Jack5
    
    Another factor suggesting a jump in NZ interest rates?
    
    Consider the Japanese housewife or the Belgian dentist, the fabled investors in NZ dollar loan issues. These issues are made by the Australian banks which run the NZ banking system. The banks re-invest a large proportion of the money in NZ house mortgages.
    
    The Japanese housewife and the Belgian dentist with NZ dollar investments are hit when the NZ dollar exchange rates fall.
    
    To invest again in NZ dollar issues they will want higher interest rates to compensate for exchange rate risk.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:24pm
    - Jack5
      
      Sorry for the italics, folks, the edit function seems to be broken today.
      
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      October 6, 2018 12:25pm
- Notsofast
  
  New Zealand is a fake economy, depending on environmental disasters of jet tourism and dairy, sheltering beneath a low population density. R Jones might write volume 2 for a lateral view.
  
  Zero carbon? okay okay…
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:31am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Check out the comment volume to the Stuff article on the currency collapse by Anthony.
  
  Ginormous.
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:30am
- KevOB
  
  I agree Hugh. I have been waiting for this long delayed correction. I have research back to the Poseidon days showing the linkage of yield on long treasuries and the dividend yield on the stock market. There is big crunch coming for the yield gap to go to zero.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:55pm
VicParking

On a lighter note.
Why can’t I get the last 5-10% of anythink out of a jar/Pottle/Bottle. Jam, Peanut Butter, Cream, Chuntney, Toothpaste etc. They are all designed with lips or ridges that a knife or spoon wont reach.
Marketing!!!! We pay for 375g but can only use 350g and have to buy the product sooner.
I blame the Clinton Foundation
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October 6, 2018 9:09am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  John Keys
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:15am
- mikenmildagain
  
  George Soros
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:59am
- RW Capitalist
  
  You could always send the leftovers to Haiti.
  They’d appreciate it, it would replace all that money the clinton foundation CLAIMED to have sent, but didn’t.
  Chelsea’s wedding dress was nice though.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:15am
- wiseowl
  
  Must be a challenge there to design a new container.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:29pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I bought some French jam from NW. Jars are wide and sides straight up and have a cute checkerboard lid. The jam was nice too.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:21pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Market for a longer handled knife/ spoon?
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:48pm
EAD_TWO

“A parliamentary candidate who praised Hitler on a blog has been jailed.

Barbara Fielding-Morriss, 79, was convicted of three counts of stirring up racial hatred at Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court in June and jailed for 12 months”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-45760727

Twelve months is a wickedly excessive sentence for a British Court to inflict on a 79 year-old woman simply speaking and writing the things she believes in.

It’s a good job Britain has Jews in power to create laws that stop people from saying Jews in power don’t have the British peoples best interests at heart.
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October 6, 2018 9:15am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  EAD_TWO,
  
  Did people in England in the past make such public statements praising Hitler or is this a new thing?
  If they did, then how did the authorities react?
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:31am
  - DJ Ward
    
    There was Nazi parties in England and the US prior to WW2.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:49am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, I suppose that is a step up from being sent to a concentration camp or a guillotining!
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:31am
  - DJ Ward
    
    The irony is Hitler and his regime sent individuals with dissenting political opinion to prison.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:46am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      and Helen Clark tried that too.
      Remember the guy who put an axe through her electorate window?
      She wanted him done, not for criminal damage, but SEDITION.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:17am
      - stephieboy
        
        RW Capitalist, refresh our memories?
        
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        October 6, 2018 10:49am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Tim Selwyn was indeed charged, convicted and imprisoned (only for two months, though) for sedition. The bit where Helen Clark wanted him charged with sedition is one of those made-up propaganda stories nutbars repeat to each other until it feels truthy to them, like Phil Goff spitting on returning Vietnam veterans.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:00am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        For the sake of stephie and Pycho
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=9003602
        Chris Trotter: “I think if you put an axe through the PM’s electoral office window you can expect to attract more than the usual amount of police attention. She’s going to be asking the police, at a fairly senior level, for some answers.”
        Selwyn’s lawyers reckoned the last case was about 1910. Several newspapers reported there hadn’t been one since 1914. It was left to a redoubtable blogger, Idiot/Savant from the No Right Turn site, to dig up the names.
        
        Historically, sedition charges were brought against Maori leaders, pro-Irish demagogues, anti-conscription activists, suspected communist sympathisers and stroppy union leaders. The last case appears to have been in the 1940s.
        
        So you might well be wondering why the police dredged up this old law?
        
        “I have no idea,” says Palmer. “I don’t think there was any need. It’s very odd actually. I don’t think many police would be all that familiar with the law of sedition. It doesn’t come up.”
        Detective Sergeant Millar Rewi, who ran the Selwyn investigation, didn’t return North & South’s calls. But it seems implausible that a couple of beat cops turning up to a scene where there’s a broken window with an axe in it and a few random leaflets lying on the ground would immediately think: “We’ve got a seditionist on the loose.”
        
        And so Selwyn’s defenders saw Helen Clark’s hand in this, remarking on the supreme irony of a Labour leader victimising him with a piece of legislation that’d victimised her Labour forebears. Yet it seems equally implausible that the Prime Minister would be foolish enough to meddle in a criminal investigation (a Clark spokesperson told me she had “no involvement” in the charge).
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        But clark was very much know as and prone to LYING.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:09am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Well, yeah, exactly. There’s nothing to suggest Clark had anything to do with this, but you guys repeat it to each other until you’re convinced she did.
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:24am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Read it again Pycho
        “…..She’s going to be asking the police, at a fairly senior level, for some answers.”
        
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        October 6, 2018 11:54am
      - stephieboy
        
        But asking the police is not sedition, isn’t it?
        
        LYING!
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:22pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        LOL at him quoting Chris Trotter’s imagination as verification for his own fantasy about Helen Clark.
        
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        October 6, 2018 12:48pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Next people will be sent to prison for throwing stones at Jews while they steal land without compensation. A vast improvement over Jews just shooting children.
  
  I was looking for a RealityCheck comment but he has been banned.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:40am
- stephieboy
  
  From the BBC link,
  
  “The self-confessed white supremacist and anti-Semite stood as an independent for the city central constituency in 2017’s election.
  Judge Mr Recorder Julian Taylor said he found her attitude during the trial “sinister”.
  She was jailed for 12 months.
  He said Fielding-Morriss, who represented herself in court, had “not helped her cause” by offering anti-Semitic mitigation…”
  
  Her mug shot suggests early onset dementia!
  
  Detained under a mental health warrant seems more appropriate.
  
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  October 6, 2018 9:52am
  - Jazzby
    
    I’m unsure whether or not your last comment was made in jest: but it deserves to be seriously considered.
    At 79, she may (statistically speaking) have a degree of dementia; this possibility, together with what sounds to be – shall we say, ‘unusual’ – behaviour should prompt a reasonable court to at least request a psychological /psychiatric report.
    I’m not, by any means, saying that all elderly, slightly eccentric people should be considered mentally unbalanced but, in a case such as this, where the possibility of a stiff jail sentence exists, the humane approach would be to, at least, give the offender the benefit of expert assessment.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:20am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Foolish law to be able to jail someone for sputtering senile Nazi garbage.
  I am grateful we have freer speech here.
  While not directly related, as freedom of speech doesn’t apply on a private blog, I think DPF sets a very reasonable example by allowing scum like EADolf to post his poisonous bullshit here.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:04am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And you.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:13am
DigNap15

Most university students are from well offf families

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137326

That is the way it has always been, and probably will be the way it will always be.

You need to be from a well off , well educated family to go to university and succeed.

Children from poorer families have to try much harder and are usually not well equipped to do it.

I note the person featured in the article passed in law and arts, which are two of the things we do not need any more of. If she had qualified as a doctor, or engineer I would have been more impressed.
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October 6, 2018 10:12am
- Psycho Milt
  
  I note the person featured in the article passed in law and arts, which are two of the things we do not need any more of.
  
  I’m curious. Which organisation or governing body is tasked with identifying what we need more of and what we don’t? Is it an elected body?
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:14am
  - DigNap15
    
    No its the universities themselves as far as I know.
    think Steven Joyce tried to get them to offer more of the useful degrees
    Me, I would have just given them some quotas or no money!
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:31pm
BarryB

I am glad to hear that Kavanagh will be appointed to the US Supreme court. Why?

If women want so called Equality then they need to comply with the requirments of the rule of law – ie: if they have been assaulted in any way they need to make a complaint AND MAKE SURE ANY EVIDENCE IS AVAILABLE AND RECORDED ASAP after the assault.

Waiting 35 years (or about that lone) as the Ford Professor did is almost proof that she at least regards herself as being in some universe of special laws that apply to her but few others – ie: You must believe what I say evemn though I cant prove it.

Kavanagh may have been a piss head and tried to get into her pants, but as she said “She didnt say anything at the time because of the reaction of her parents when they learned that a 15 year old girl was – against the rules of the hostel – in boys rooms drinking alcohol. She is no shrinking violet.
Its too late 35 years later.
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October 6, 2018 10:19am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I find John Roughan’s view in the Herald repugnant.
  I bet anything he votes left.
  
  John Roughan: Creeps don’t change – Kavanaugh still the frat boy
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=12137443
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    Chuck Bird, he wrote a nice biography on former PM John Keys.
    
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    October 6, 2018 10:53am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Who is this “John Keys” fellow to whom you refer Stephie?
      
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      October 6, 2018 12:33pm
      - starboard
        
        snigger… the stooopid shariaboy cant even get JK’s name right. Meh.
        
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        October 6, 2018 7:38pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Shall we try then Sir John Phillip Key GNZM AC ?
        
        Burp !
        
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        October 6, 2018 7:40pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Personally
    I hope all those who opposed his nomination, most of which were opposed BEFORE they even knew his name, are at some point in their lives judged under the same circumstances.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:28am
  - lifesgood
    
    Like a certain unemployed fisherman in Auckland, eh, John Roughan?
    
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    October 6, 2018 5:19pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Thank you for mansplaining how women should deal with sexual assault.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:05am
  - DigNap15
    
    So how do you think women should deal with it.
    Wait 40 years
    Or just wait till the guy is famous and rich?
    I have no time for intelligent women who did not speak up at the time.
    Look at all the celebs that Rolf Harris is supposed to have fondled!
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      DiNap15 , I think it was yesterday where EdSnack was busily rationalising similar types of behaviour among scarfies during his Student days at Otago Uni.
      
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      October 6, 2018 11:22am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      There are reasons for a person not to disclose sexual assault for many years like in the case of Rolf Harris. However, the judge should not have to prove himself innocent. I find it appalling that the Herald employs someone Roughan who should never be on a jury,
      
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      October 6, 2018 12:53pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    For goodness sake, if no-one tries to grope us, it is mortifying, if they do, most times it is flattering, but if they don’t it is worse and especially when young.
    
    I really don’t get all of the outrage, I call them combat stories. We have all taken scalps, haven’t we? Played catch and release or just thrown them back or not put bait out at all. Here was me thinking that it was all just a game.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:25am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      It is definitely different when women do it to when men do it though ;).
      
      Men are known to say words along the line of wtf?
      
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      October 6, 2018 12:21pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Collection of proof is how *everyone* must deal with crime, including sexual assault. Men, women, trans-sexuals: immediately go to the Police. Get witnesses.
    
    Be glad that we have innocence until proven guilty.
    
    This doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t get counselling and medical help if they have been sexually assaulted but can’t prove it. It also doesn’t mean one can’t ‘believe’ them that it happened. But proof of a crime takes far more detailed evidence than ‘belief’.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:39am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I am glad to hear that Kavanagh will be appointed to the US Supreme court. Why?
  
  Judging by your comment, it’s because you’re a loathsome rape apologist and misogynist, so you’d like to see Kavanaugh take those views to the US Supreme Court and engage in judicial activism against American women.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:17am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    What part of this story, said he did?
    Showed he did?
    Has evidence that he did?
    Just saying it does NOT make it true!!!
    As I have said before:
    I hope, at some time in YOUR life, you are judged in the same manner and to the same extent as he has been here.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:32am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Should I one day be nominated to the SCotUS, I share your hope that I’d be judged in the manner and to the extent that Kavanaugh has been. It’s a fairly unlikely scenario, however.
      
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      October 6, 2018 2:13pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        So you’d like to be accused of being a rapist, drugging woman and taking part in mass rape. Plus violent sexual assault, have your children abused and given death threats, purely out of spite ?
        
        Are you sure that’s what you want ?
        
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        October 6, 2018 4:05pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        I doubt anyone would like those things, but if there are multiple women who say you sexually assaulted them, your nomination hearings are bound to be a bit less pleasant than other people’s. Also, I expect Prof Ford didn’t like having a pissed arsehole trying to rape her. Or the abuse and death threats she’s received, for that matter.
        
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        October 6, 2018 6:39pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    For goodness sake get a grip.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:17pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    My sister thinks that I have some characteristics of a misogynist.
    I just don’t think that I am blindly partisan, I approve of myself as a woman of course but then I am a narcissist.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:39pm
Tom Barker

Can EAD provide his justification for the actions of this charming individual?:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neo-nazi-domestic-terrorism-taylor-michael-wilson_us_5bb7931be4b01470d051338a
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October 6, 2018 10:23am
- stephieboy
  
  “U.S. District Judge John Gerrard in Nebraska called Wilson a “gun-toting, angry, at times incoherent and other times uncooperative white supremacist” before sentencing him to to the prison term, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.”
  
  Good alt-right and EAD TWO fodder!
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:55am
Inandout

Oh, Steven looks like he shouldn’t have spoken in support of Trump.

https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/10/05/steven-seagal-walks-out-of-interview-after-being-asked-about-sexual-harassment-allegations/23552115/

I would guess 70% of Hollywood males spread their sex around.
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October 6, 2018 10:25am
Fletch

Senator Susan Collins on supporting Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court. Probably one of the best speeches I have heard on the matter. She goes into his history, decisions, rulings, writings, etc, and makes a very strong, reasoned, argument on why he ought to be confirmed. (her speech is approx 40 mins). She also shows why many of the worst fears of those against his nomination are unfounded – that he will somehow turn back Roe, or gay marriage.

https://youtu.be/lR3WajO-WwI
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October 6, 2018 10:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Always struck me as a “perfect storm “in a teacup stuff!
  
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  October 6, 2018 10:57am
- mikenmildagain
  
  But I thought you were all for Kavanaugh precisely because you do think he would vote to reduces women’s autonomy over their own bodies.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:07am
  - Winzard
    
    Kavanaugh is there to maintain the Patriot Act, and the breaches to the fourth amendment. But post crucifixion, his stance on abortion is now a wild card. He is staunchly anti immigration and pro first and especially second amendment. Where it will get interesting for gay co habitation is the next justice when Ginsberg departs this mortal coil. That’s when Trump can leave a real legacy.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:15am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    He is a constitutionalist, he will vote for and with whatever upholds the constitution.
    He has also said, MANY times, that precedence and things endemic in the law , such as abortion law, civil rights etc. Will NOT be changed by him!!!!!!
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:37am
    - Winzard
      
      That was before he and his family were destroyed, subjected to death threats, and he was accused of nonsensical multiple counts of gang rape, being an alcoholic, perjury by the biggest perjurers ever, pedophilia against his own daughters, and fired from Harvard and barred from employment by all his ‘friends’.
      
      He may see precedent observation as a constitutional principle. But precedent needs precedent. Roe v Wade had no precedent or constitutional groundings. Neither did Obergefell v Hodges. The communists on the courts just made up nonsense out of whole cloth. That isn’t precedent. That’s an abrogation of precedent. He’s going to restore precedent, by getting rid of these ridiculous laws that have no precedent.
      
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      October 6, 2018 4:53pm
    - Piniwi
      
      More interesting RW Capitalist along wiht his firm upholding the law of the land and the Constitution his clarity in such matter might produce something other than the 5/4 split the Dems are so worried about. This could produce a double blow for them as they have targeted making the Supreme Court partisan. His decisions in the hundreds to date have been well received across the political divide perhaps because it at a lesser safe level.
      However he is a mere mortal with a strong will to deal legally with legal matter separated from his personal view he naturally reacted very strongly against personal attacks of unsubstantiated allegations. Only the Dems were surprised at his strong reaction and have even tried to use that against him they are so screwed up so tight. Then the first vote was dragged out as they panicked trying to get all their ducks in a row then the one announcing the count had to pause to swallow a dead rat. 51/49 ooh dear how sad.
      
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      October 6, 2018 11:04pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Perhaps those who are already Justices, since it is life long tenure, should be re examined about their suitability for the post, if they didn’t undergo such scrutiny when they were nominated.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:39am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Well, they do undergo scrutiny. Each appointment is with the advice and consent of the senate. A number of nominations to the supreme court have failed that process, going all the way back to some of
    Washington’s appointments.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:57pm
Prince

A ‘professional’ journalist, Duncan Garner, rang Simon Bridges to tell him what a shit job he was doing. Garner then started started swearing at Bridges, who hung up on him.
The depths to which ‘professional journalism’ have sunk.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/107639457/an-embarrassing-own-goal-when-nationals-defence-wasnt-even-under-pressure
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October 6, 2018 10:57am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You don’t agree with Garner’s central point – that Bridges has damaged himself with the ludicrous leak hunt instead of concentrating on the government’s many mistakes?
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:09am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes I’d like him and National to announce what policies of Labours they will reverse in their first 100 days.
    Actually make it all of them and within 30 days!
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:14am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Timing is everything
      It is not Nationals JOB to announce what they will or will not do. I know it seems like forever, that we have had this circus of clowns, but it is only one year.
      This CoL, are wrecking our country, Simon doesn’t even have to point out, with any vigor, what they are doing wrong, it is VERY obvious.
      What I do hope, is that they are working behind the scenes, on policy and strategy. Focusing the odd lens on Labour’s screw ups, just so the MSM propaganda wing can’t cover it up.
      
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      October 6, 2018 11:44am
  - Prince
    
    I’ll reserve judgement until we see the report.
    Several journalists will have egg on faces if, as is quite likely, the report points to the Speaker’s office.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:06pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      My money is on the Mallard clusterfuck Curran connection.
      
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      October 6, 2018 1:17pm
      - lifesgood
        
        I’m pretty certain. That Duck shut it down stinks to high heaven. Protecting his former bonk.
        
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        October 6, 2018 5:26pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I believe that he is multi tasking and although it is the oppositions job to keep the government to account it is also the responsibility of the so called fourth estate, which Duncan is supposed to be part of, what a joke.
    
    Are all these men afraid that Jacinda will accuse them of sexual assault or something, is that why they tip toe around her? Fgs surely she is made of sterner stuff than that, women are, and strong women despise weak men.
    
    As for women that make excuses for women because it is ‘our’ turn, you do us women a disservice.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:39pm
  - Paulus
    
    The Duck put forward the enquiry then ducked out, as told by Ardern, leaving Bridges to carry on as the innuendo from the Duck was that it is a National MP.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:53pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Because Duncan says? No guts no glory? I mean, he didn’t even get to explain to the country about his own personal affairs, were they embarrassing? Affairs of course having multiple meanings, and I wouldn’t want to suggest anything likely to infer anything and fgs stop jigging your leg under the desk, between that and Amanda jump starting her head when she speaks, it is lucky that I can get radio, and then there are the stupid hand movements. Both women that took over while Amanda was recently away were miles better. Come back Paul Henry.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:24pm
- cmm
  
  I’d agree the leak hunt is perhaps not needed, but seeing how the lefties are squealing about it, it is probably going to kick up something interesting.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:20am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    To me, it indicates that it is NOT a National MP.
    As the MSM and Labour seem keen to imply.
    
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    October 6, 2018 11:46am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Seems to be a lot of obstruction being put in the way of getting it done in a timely manner.
      
      I say see it through, Simon not that you need my advice.
      
      As soon as Simon said that he didn’t want it or was going to can it the pundits would read that how they wish. It always needed to be seen through. Since Duncan (Duncon) would have been told by Tova who told her, I am curious as to why he is trying to shut it down by trying to embarrass Simon.
      
      Can we have a judicial review on the matter including the speakers part?
      
      Jacinda never got to be leader of the opposition, I wonder how she would have got on? I doubt the fire would have been held to her feet as she has always confessed to anxiety issues.
      
      It’s like having pity sex, always unsatisfying.
      
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      October 6, 2018 12:46pm
  - itstricky
    
    it is probably going to kick up something interesting
    
    Or something embarrassing.
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:25pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Duncan needs to get a grip if he thinks that Simon is the biggest problem that NZ has got.
  
  How about some real journalism Duncan, not just the odd sop to the right to assuage any comments regarding bias?
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:24pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    By ‘real journalism’ do you mean his columns criticising the government that DPF has excerpted approvingly?
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:58pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Not enough, something about swallows and summer I think. Duncan is a partisan hack and he might throw the right the odd bone, when he has to, and why shouldn’t they be applauded when he does?
      
      As for ‘serious’ journalism, he would not be my pick for anything, I watch the AM show now to be outraged and to listen to some sanity from Mark Richardson. As for Amanda Gillies, I don’t rate her at all.
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:13pm
  - Paulus
    
    My vote is still and will remain Two Blue Ticks so up yours Garner and O’Brien.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:55pm
  - bc
    
    Simon isn’t the biggest problem that NZ has got, but he is the biggest problem that National has got.
    No one will want to admit it, but Jacinda will run circles around Bridges in the political debates. Unfortunately, this is the era of optics and catchy soundbites and Jacinda has it over Simon. National has its core base who will vote blue regardless of the leader, but having a lack of coalition partners means it will need some ‘blue stardust’ from a charismatic leader to get 45% up to 50%. Simon doesn’t cut it!
    
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    October 6, 2018 5:04pm
    - KevOB
      
      Nonsense.
      
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      October 6, 2018 5:58pm
  - KevOB
    
    I expect to hear the hit on Bridges on TV1 tonight too.
    
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    October 6, 2018 5:59pm
- sooty
  
  Come on Simon, release the tape!
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:24pm
- howitis
  
  This is the same Duncan Gooner that thinks Valerie Adams is the No 12 shot putter in the world (Men and Women) because he is too utterly stoopid to know that Men’s shot-put weights 16 lb (7.26 kg) and Women’s is 4 kg even.
  
  -The goon that needs regular on air education (schooling) from Mark Richardson
  -This is the goon that is pro rapefugee without any decent reason given
  -This is the goon that keeps losing his Maori wives and has 4 kids from 3 women scattered around the show
  -This is the Gooner clown who bleats gender pay gap but when his last missus quit her job as a PA to become a ‘teachers aide’ at one third the pay, that was fine for her quality of life… even though he moaned on air about how little she was paid. Duh.
  
  Garner does not know whether s/he is Arthur or Martha.
  
  Why do I know this?
  Because I observe him for the humour and entertainment value and not for information value.
  Garner is guileless.
  He could be a one man ‘7 days’ and actually be humorous instead of the (I guess ) current dross.
  We could all laugh at him and he is happy because he gets well paid to fritter his money away – the bit left over after all his child maintenance.
  
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  October 6, 2018 3:39pm
  - Jazzby
    
    Oh yes – I, too, look forward to watching him, for his unwitting entertainment value. Of mediocre intelligence (he has a limited vocabulary, and misuses/mispronounces words), he doesn’t hesitate to share his wisdom with the world. His insecurity is manifest by his evident compulsion to say things twice, or even three or four times, just in case we don’t take sufficient notice the first time (“Listen to me! Listen to me!”). What’s more, his opinion tends to sway with the prevailing breeze; I do wonder if he has any original ideas in his head.
    As you say, he’s often upstaged by Mark Richardson (himself no Einstein) and he visibly resents it, presumably because it shows him up.
    No wonder he gets on so well with Amanda Gillies, who is impressionable, silly, and terribly ill-informed: she makes him look good.
    I’d say that it’s no mere accident he’s had several failed relationships, because he really is an inadequate man.
    A classical example of a case of low-grade Dunning-Kruger.
    
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    October 6, 2018 5:59pm
cmm

Listening to RNZ I heard that there is some push for a Chinese investment firm to put up the $400M for a road which will then be paid back with tolls.

Of course the road will run over budget, so the terms will be changed and we’ll be lubed and screwed.

How is it we can’t afford our own road, yet we can afford to give billions of dollars to Pacific Islands?
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October 6, 2018 11:18am
- RF
  
  cmm.
  
  Maybe because Arderns father is a big Chief Walla Walla up there.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:27pm
- KevOB
  
  $400,000,000 /1600=$250,000 per resident!
  Most Niuens live in Auckland.
  
  Such Chinese investment is not for regular commercial gain.
  USA based mafia have tried to buy P I states previously. What is going on?
  
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  October 6, 2018 5:55pm
Winzard

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/99411726/kiwi-spies-knew-of-trumps-collusion-with-russia-as-it-unfolded–guardian-journalist

The Guardian thinks our GCSB were involved in the nonsensical Trump Russia framing. I hope that wasn’t the case. Presumably they just affirmed what they were told by the US and the UK.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/409961-russian-deputy-ag-linked-to-lawyer-in-trump-tower-meeting%3famp

It’s not smart to get involved.
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October 6, 2018 11:22am
- Inandout
  
  The Guardian ‘thinks’?
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , like Fox and Breitbart?
    
    DUH!
    
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    October 6, 2018 12:19pm
  - Paulus
    
    The Guardian hasn’t the brains to “think”.
    
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    October 6, 2018 1:57pm
- Jules99
  
  Hints are dropping that the UK and Australia actively tried to prevent Trump from becoming Presidents. Was NZ part of this? More news to come I suspect. Might explain the anti-Trump fever outside of the the US.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:06pm
  - backster
    
    Well all three donated $millions to the crooked Clinton Foundation. Taxpayer money, just as bad as Winston slush funding the Pacific and Northern Maori.
    
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    October 6, 2018 4:04pm
Inandout

Does Jamie Ross go to the same ‘punch n grow’ hair clinic as Clayton Cosgrove?

https://www.labour.org.nz/claytoncosgrove
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October 6, 2018 11:23am
cmm

Everyone is throwing rocks at Bridges – trying to make things look fair and balanced for PriNZess.

Sure, Bridges is not The Right Stuff, but for every gaff he makes, PriNZess makes twenty.

Come on “journalists”. You’re given special treatment because you are supposed to be the “eyes and ears” of society. Do your damn job!

Where’s the digging on:
* Fingergate
* Mega Fighter
* Spending up in New York.
* …

you know, all the stuff that the MSM machine would be in over-drive about if John Key had done a tenth of it.
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October 6, 2018 11:36am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “….but for every gaff he makes, PriNZess makes twenty”
  The multiplying factor….POWER
  She is PM, every screw up she makes, dishonest statement etcetc, is magnified 100 fold. Simply because she is in power and actually impacts OUR lives.
  Simon, has no power, he is ONLY the leader of the opposition and therefore anything he says and does has almost ZERO impact on our lives.
  
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  October 6, 2018 11:50am
- niggly
  
  Hmm perhaps there is Polling underway, so the MSM are going full-steam ahead puffing up these anti-Simon Bridges stories knowing they will likely influence voter’s negative perceptions of him?!!!
  
  Never mind the PRinNZess’s stuff-ups, the MSM think, the Red/Green (and Black) COL Circus Roadshow must continue and the Nats demonised all for the cause of course, absoluddily!
  
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  October 6, 2018 2:23pm
Longknives

“Even Hollywood stars can’t help falling in love with New Zealand’s First Baby.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12138073

There goes my lunch….
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October 6, 2018 11:46am
- sooty
  
  Spin doctors are all working overtime!
  What’s coming out next week?
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:19pm
Niz

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/10/james-shaw-fronts-with-the-welfare-numbers-marama-davidson-forgot.html
James Shaw: “Everybody has a bad interview sometimes. I’ve had some shockers in my time as well,” he told host Emma Jolliff.
Yeah, like any time he’s asked to provide any actual details about their insane policies.
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October 6, 2018 11:53am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Again, the covering up by men for inept women, makes one want to weep.
  
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  October 6, 2018 12:57pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    That’s positive discrimination for you.
    Women generally are quite capable of forging their own path, but when you have women (or minorities) promoted to make up the numbers they are invariably the numpties that lack the talent and gumption to make it there themselves.
    
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    October 6, 2018 9:36pm
krazykiwi

US tornado activity lowest in 65 years of record keeping.

Tough to identify the cause. I suggest we blame Trump, or Key, or Climate Change™
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October 6, 2018 1:09pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Go for the trifector, the greater the number of ctrl left femanazi sjw’s with terrible haircuts exploding at once, the better
  
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  October 6, 2018 1:23pm
Jack5

A great story is China likely holding in custody the world chief of Interpol, a Chinese national.

It should be a reminder to the National Party – and time for us to highlight National’s links with Beijing: a former Chinese electronic spy service employee brought into our Parliament as a National MP; two former National Party stars on the NZ boards of Chinese banks; and National Defence spokesman Mitchell warning the NZ Government to be “mindful” – that is, cautious – in taking part in Western military exercises.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/interpol-president-reported-missing-during-trip-to-china/ar-BBO0rYm?ocid=spartandhp
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October 6, 2018 1:44pm
- Justitia
  
  Jack5 I agree: our political elite has been suborned by the PRC. That is the biggest issue facing New Zealand, whoever is in government.
  
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  October 6, 2018 4:20pm
  - Jack5
    
    The Interpol chief, Meng Hongwei,aged 64, is also a vice-minister at China’s Ministry of Public Security. The South China Morning Post reports a source as saying Meng was “taken away” for questioning by discipline authorities “as soon as he landed in China” last week.
    
    The newspaper reports that under China’s supervision law, a suspect’s family and employer must be notified within 24 hours of a detention, except in cases where doing so would hinder an investigation. It appears Meng’s wife was not informed.
    
    An unnamed French judicial official had said that Meng arrived in China at the end of September but that there had been no news of him since.
    
    While Meng is listed on the web site of China’s Ministry of Public Security as a vice-minister, he lost his seat on its Communist Party Committee, its real decision-making body, in April.
    
    Meng was appointed head of Interpol in 2016. He was due to serve until 2020.
    
    Meanwhile, China’s film industry has ground to a halt, with investment drying up after a tax scandal involving the leading actress, Fan Bingbing, and after tighter controls on the entertainment industry by the Chinese Communist Party.
    
    The South China Morning Post reports that Fan Bingbing after being missing for three months has reappeared in public with an apology. She disappeared after China’s tax authorities billed her for the equivalent of 200 million NZ dollars.
    
    Meng missing:
    
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2167213/french-police-launch-hunt-missing-chinese-head-interpol-meng
    
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    October 6, 2018 5:31pm
    - Jack5
      
      Former NZ Prime Minister Jenny Shipley is one of those in the Mainzeal collapse, which is the subject of a court action in Auckland.
      
      Brian Gaynor’s column in the Hooerald provides the background, and gives a lesson on what can happen when a company has one foot in both NZ and another in China.
      
      A good read.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137610
      
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      October 6, 2018 6:01pm
DigNap15

This seems to be a trending habit
Saudia Arabia has done the same with an arab ambassador (or journalist) I forget which.
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October 6, 2018 1:53pm
RW Capitalist

For all the leftie trolls.

https://f002.backblazeb2.com/file/files-gab/image/bb-5bb6f9f705317.jpeg
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October 6, 2018 2:05pm
rightoverlabour

Special post for the Lefty Fucks…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/collins-manchin-say-aye-appearing-to-cement-kavanaugh-confirmation
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October 6, 2018 2:20pm
- Inandout
  
  Looking good for sanity, and bad for stephie.
  
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  October 6, 2018 3:01pm
RightNow

Democrats clearly learned nothing from the Duke university la Crosse team debacle. Like Crystal Mangum I fear Christine Ford is about to find out what happens when you get used by the left for their own ends. Although unlike Mangum I think Ford was in on the end goal. I suspect she also revelled in the attention.
I also think most Americans see through the bullshit of a last minute gotcha attack when Feinstein had sat on it for months, and all the evidence fell apart under scrutiny. The modus operandi appears to be make the accusations loudly and try to shame anyone who dares question them.
November midterms are going to be close. The Democrats and their frenzied mobs might have scored another own goal.
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October 6, 2018 2:22pm
bc

We need to talk about Simon…

Had DPF’s company Curia ring me up the other night asking if I would like to contribute to a political poll. Said sure, happy to!
The Poll was to give a mark from 1 (low) to 5(high) on how I rated politicians and various issues.
Was very happy to give a 1 to Jacinda, Twyford, Davis (would have given a negative number to those two if I could) etc. Pretty much asked to rate the whole of the Labour Party front bench along with Winston and Shane Jones from NZ First. 1 for the lot of them, except a 2 to Grant Robinson who seems to be doing an OK job with Finance. Guy on the telephone says there seems to be a pattern here as I also gave 1’s to how I thought the Government was handling the economy, health, education etc.
Then it comes time for National. How did I rate Simon Bridges? I guess he was waiting for the 5 based on my previous answers as there certainly was a pause on the line as I gave him a 2. Was waiting for Judith Collins , but no! The poll only wanted my thoughts on Simon and Paula. Interesting.
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October 6, 2018 2:57pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  You didn’t really expect the party apparatchiks from Curia to be seeking information about how popular alternatives to their ruling junta might be, did you?
  The people using our money to commission polls from these guys with our money are hardly likely to undermine their own position.
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:00pm
  - nasska
    
    Simon might scrape a two but Paula’s a five.
    
    She’s a sweetie! 🙂
    
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    October 6, 2018 6:05pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    With the caning that the media was giving Simon as leader why wouldn’t it be targeted?
    
    You are such a glass half empty.
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:41pm
rightoverlabour

More bad news for Lefty Twats

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45758887

while in Silly Little Cindy Land

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/107637408/new-zealand-dollar-heading-to-gfc-lows-by-end-of-the-year-anz-says
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October 6, 2018 3:32pm
cmm

Herald: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137757

“The Kiwi dollar was buying US73.85c in April and has dropped 12.5 per cent since then.

In simple terms, that means your dinner out in San Franciso or New York is 12.5 per cent more expensive than it would have been just a few months ago.”

Nope, if the value of the NZD falls 12.5 percent, the cost of buying something priced in dollars has actually gone up 14.3%

People really seem to forget the impact of reciprocals.

If the value of the NZD halves (ie. drops 50%), then the cost of buying something in US$ using NZD doubles, it does not go up 50%!

So much for Herald “Business”.
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October 6, 2018 3:43pm
- bc
  
  Numeracy in general is pretty low, including from businesses (where you think it would be important!)
  Bought some paint from Resenes when they had a “we will pay your GST” sale. Looked at the receipt and say they had given a 15% discount instead.
  I couldn’t help myself and said to the salesperson that a 15% discount is not the same as a GST exclusive price. No one in the business had noticed and they said I was the first customer that had brought it up. They said they would change the price as that was what they had advertised, so had to tell them that a 15% discount was a better offer!
  
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  October 6, 2018 4:27pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    That’s an old gag now. People who think one can just add and subtract percentages.
    
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    October 6, 2018 6:05pm
    - nasska
      
      What do you expect from the crap unionised teachers we’ve got?
      
      Most of the kids leaving school have to take their shoes & socks off to count past ten!
      
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      October 6, 2018 6:07pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        They have shoes and socks?
        
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        October 6, 2018 8:35pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes “paying the GST” is a poor discount anyway.
    15% would not make me bother to go to store.
    Just the same as Payless Plastics are dearer than everywhere else
    And Guthrie Bowron have good advice and their paint is still the same price as every where else.
    
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    October 6, 2018 6:11pm
Ross12

I am reading a book about the 1MDB fund scandal in Malaysia.
Anyone interested in finance and political corruption should read about it. Unbelievable amounts of money involved. There are several books on it, now.
I am reading “1MDB – The scandal that bought down a government” by P. Gunasegaram ( a journalist who has followed it from day one).
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October 6, 2018 5:11pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes and what about Marcos in the Philipines,
  Mugabe in Zambia
  And I don’t know his name, but the guy in Guinea-Bissai (took all their oil money)
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:08pm
  - DigNap15
    
    And the Kircheners in Argentina took millions in contract kickbacks.
    
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    October 6, 2018 6:22pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Not forgetting Donald Trump,
      
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-business-scams-20180503-story.html
      
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      October 6, 2018 6:30pm
    - Ross12
      
      Agree DisNap15 but there is a little bit of difference in this case. While PM Najib Razak was getting massive kickbacks/donations the key guys or beneficiaries were not in Government even though Government was involved “up to their necks”. The key man was a young guy –Jho Low ( a Malaysian national)
      
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      October 6, 2018 6:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ross12, you also must have read The Art of the Deal by Donald Trump’s too?
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:26pm
DigNap15

Hundreds of jobs, but where are the workers!
They are all at home kicking back watching tv on the benefit or walking our streets with their nice dogs.

https://www.yudu.co.nz/news/hundreds-of-jobs-on-offer-in-tauranga-but-where-are-the-workers/43065/

Countdown and New World use workers mainly from Mumbai they seem very rascist.
Yet, we have a very high unemployment rate here in Tga.
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October 6, 2018 6:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15, do you live there?
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:22pm
  - DigNap15
    
    No I live on a goat farm
    
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    October 6, 2018 7:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Mounting opportunities down on the farm?
      
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      October 6, 2018 7:53pm
      - sooty
        
        You would know!
        
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        October 6, 2018 8:14pm
- nasska
  
  ….”we have a very high unemployment rate here in Tga”…..
  
  And our political masters cause it. An 18yo school leaver will get paid for 30 hours @ $16.50 = $495 0r $430 net/week.
  
  An 18yo can sit on their arse & collect $180 + acc. supplement of $54 = $234 net/week. And they don’t have to wash, get out of bed or find a way to get to work.
  
  There’s not sufficient of a monetary difference & the main reason is the hare brained notion that 30 rather than 40 hours a week constitutes full time employment.
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:42pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I know what you are saying.
    But really If I was a young single person on the dole with your figures say $100 for rent and $100 for food. That leaves me only $50 for clothes, travel and entertainment, phone data,beer etc.
    Surely an extra $200 week would make all the difference to being able to enjoy life a bit more and for only 30 hours a week!
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:24pm
    - starboard
      
      Nah bro, just do a couple of burgs, do some armed robs, fuckin eh !
      
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      October 6, 2018 8:30pm
- gump
  
  Has it occurred to you that the shortage of retail workers might be related to the insanely high cost of housing in and around Tauranga?
  
  No – I’m guessing that it has never occurred to you…
  
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  October 6, 2018 7:34pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I just told you that we have a very high unemployment rate so why is there a shortage?
    
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    October 6, 2018 8:25pm
    - gump
      
      The Bay doesn’t have a high unemployment rate. In fact it’s one of the lowest rates in the country.
      
      What you don’t have is a high proportion of people in part-time or full-time employment. But that’s because the region has a larger proportion of retirees than other areas.
      
      At the beginning of last year your region recorded the lowest rate of unemployment in the entire North Island.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11798304
      
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      October 6, 2018 9:01pm
    - Viking2
      
      Not true. We don’t have high unemployment.
      We do have a very transient workforce because of kiwifruit and lots of building.
      Just had a job I advertised on FB.
      
      No trouble getting a good person.
      Lots of out of towners from far away places. Which I don’t want.
      
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      October 6, 2018 10:25pm
starboard

The COL is a clusterfuck, a shambles.
There needs to be an uprising in NZ.
Those bastards work for us remember.
I say no confidence.
Get the fuck out you lying deceitful bastards.
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October 6, 2018 7:41pm
- stephieboy
  
  “There needs to be an uprising in NZ.”?
  
  Oh, sure Captian Mainwaring and his KB alt right golden horde ??
  
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  October 6, 2018 7:44pm
  - starboard
    
    You’re first for the lamp post treatment stooopidboy
    Dont forget to wear clean underwear.
    
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    October 6, 2018 7:54pm
Manolo

3.7% in the US:
https://apnews.com/fc4571c949d84e0e91337c782b5cb030/US-unemployment-falls-to-3.7-percent-_-lowest-since-1969
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October 7, 2018 1:56am
Viking2

The leech that keeps on taking.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107648212/taxpayers-pay-for-foreign-vips-to-sup-with-clark

Cocktail parties and wine-fuelled film screenings to promote a Helen Clark documentary to foreign VIPs has cost taxpayers more than $33,000.

Embassies around the world have been hosting events with the former PM to show off My Year With Helen, a fly-on-the-wall film about her failed bid for the top job at the United Nations.

The hospitality bill comes on top of the $870, 000 taxpayer-funded NZ on Air and the Film Commission contributed to make the film.
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