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secondcumming

Penny Wins!!
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October 5, 2018 8:01am
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, secondcumming!
  
  Vale, Penny…
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:02am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  My favourite video clip of Penny (with angle grinder)
  (from about 3 min in)
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzccHIB3paQ
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:09am
  - waikatogirl
    
    May you find the ‘books open’ in heaven Penny. If not, the campaign will continue.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:11am
- Paulus
  
  Rest in Peace Penny.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:11am
  - Chris R
    
    Paulus: Perhaps she doesn’t seek peace? When the world loses a genuine and at times delightful eccentric it loses some of its shine. Penny was sincere, entertaining, irritating etc…but never never one to fade into obscurity. Good luck to her.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:34am
tas

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/107502374/don-brash-raises-concerns-about-massey-universitys-treaty-plans?rm=m
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October 5, 2018 8:01am
- srylands
  
  Unless you were set on being a vet, why would anyone now attend such a university?
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:06am
  - tas
    
    Frankly, I’d think twice about becoming a vet if it meant going to Massey.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:08am
    - VicParking
      
      If you lay down with dogs you will get fleas
      
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      October 5, 2018 8:22am
  - peterwn
    
    And the other agriculture related courses. A benefactor gave money to Auckland and Victoria Universities to run agriculture courses. They combined resources and created the University College called Massey to specialise in agricultural studies.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:27am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    If your dream profession involves messing around with animal anuses then your standards are already pretty low.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:47am
  - Harkman
    
    Actually Massey is harming the NZ tertiary sector and small town citizens of this country. The government has funded them as the main extramural provider for small town New Zealanders and for virtually all their degrees and post graduate stuff they only offer a few of the required subjects for the completion of these courses. I can’t believe that no Minister of Education has ever realised this. As for the Uni itself I visited it about 15 years ago and what a dungeon.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:19am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Harkman, Massey provides extramural studies for all people and not just small-town New Zealanders. As for the other alt right red neck ill-informed and ignorant comments enough said!
      
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      October 5, 2018 9:23am
      - Harkman
        
        You’ve got a real disease. The symptoms include posting the most ridiculous comments imaginable, you suddenly turn pink and then disappear.
        
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        October 5, 2018 9:36am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy you fricking moron ,i dont have to read your shit to know it’s entirely nonsensical so its “downtick the dick “and move on.
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:05pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Haha, I did use the one extramural I could for a year 1 paper in my last degree – easy as. No standard at all. The rest of the degree (UoA) was very tough, so that little extramural was a nice relief.
        
        But if Massey degrees are that easy, I wouldn’t value them at all.
        
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        October 5, 2018 3:49pm
    - Paulus
      
      As an Employer you would add Massey qualification to Waikato as one where you would hesitate to before you employed them.
      You do not know the underlying sentiments they they may have, let alone the veracity of the qualification.
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:39am
    - Chris R
      
      Harkman: The majority of Massey extra-mural students live within the greater area of Auckland City. The majority of La Trobe extra-mural students live within greater Melbourne.It suits many residents of larger cities where other universities are located to follow an extra-mural path as it is simpler to fit the studies into daily work/life balance. Having said that I also see the appeal of extra-mural studies for those who live at a considerable distance from established universities. As a person old enough to retire the prospect of further studies whether directly or through extra-mural papers is enticing and (I hope) will help stave-off senescence.
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:58am
      - Harkman
        
        But you can sort of see where I’m coming from. Someone living in Gisbourne, Nelson or Timaru should be able to do the course there. Massey offers these courses as extramural but if you look, you can’t actually complete many of these courses, one key/compulsory paper will be say in Wellington (especially at 4th/5th year level).
        
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        October 5, 2018 12:33pm
  - Scott
    
    Unfortunately this political correctness has now become the norm at New Zealand universities. Helen Clark came from a conservative rural background but was radicalised at Auckland University. The strange woman who was the co-leader of the Greens is a radical from Waikato University.
    
    Now Massey University has succumbed to political correctness with the VC revealing that she is a member of the hard left who considers Don Brash completely beyond the pale.
    
    Victoria University is now going to lose the name Victoria. It is important to understand that the left wants to get rid of old colonial names like Victoria. They have said they are going to call the University, “the University of Wellington”. I believe that is incredibly deceptive. The real goal is to get rid of the old name which honours Western civilisation and the past and put in a new name. The new name is a Maori name. That is what they want to do. They want to call Victoria University a Maori name.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:51am
    - SGA
      
      the left wants to get rid of old colonial names like Victoria. They have said they are going to call the University, “the University of Wellington”.
      
      ummm… Wellington takes its name from Arthur Wellesley (1769–1852), the first Duke of Wellington and victor of the Battle of Waterloo (1815). It is as just as much a colonial name as Victoria. 🙂
      
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      October 5, 2018 1:00pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Yes but it is a case of one down, one to go.
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:38pm
- igm
  
  tas: Don’t worry about Massey, they are now employing the vile and socialist Sue Bradford, be it only for a week.
  Having had past associations with this institute I, like many others, am totally disgusted.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:08am
  - greybeard
    
    I notice that this Sue Bradford appointment is nowhere to be found on Stuff today.
    Too controversial perhaps ?
    Too silly for words ?
    
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    October 5, 2018 1:39pm
  - softail 1450
    
    IGM. are shithouse cleaners that hard to find ?
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:07pm
    - igm
      
      softail: She would not even qualify for a menial position . . . being one of life’s left-wing losers.
      
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      October 5, 2018 3:43pm
- tas
  
  This article makes me so angry. It seems Massey are putting science and education (and being a University) very much second to Maoriness.
  
  a framework will be put in place by the middle of 2019 to monitor and recognise all staff who demonstrate Māori cultural capabilities.
  
  I cannot fathom having to put up with that. Can you imagine getting a performance evaluation that says “Your scientific research is great — lots of good publications. The evaluations of your teaching are excellent and you have been active in department service. However, we are concerned that you have not demonstrated any Maori cultural capabilities. To be considered for promotion, you will need to to demonstrate Maori cultural capabilities and contribute to being te tiriti-led.”
  
  “I’ve been in meetings where mainly male, white academics, middle aged have come out and made it quite clear we ought to drop the idea,” Jahnke said.
  
  Oh those stupid white males. Who cares what they have contributed to research and education? Let’s ignore anyone who doesn’t agree because they probably don’t have enough cultural education.
  
  Massey is even further down the drain than I realized.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:27am
  - Jazzby
    
    The supreme irony is, of course, the fact that the very existence of the university is due to the corpus of knowledge, and the academic process to utilise it, that the colonisers brought with them.
    The historical revisionists (read: Maori separatists) are trying their damnedest to pervert that reality, in order to suit their own, prejudiced agenda. Their dishonesty makes me gag.
    
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    October 5, 2018 12:49pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    It’s because cultural lead education has worked fantastically for Māori over the last few hundred years.
    
    You realise Māori rivaled the Chinese in medicine, the Persians in mathematics etc
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:46pm
    - Tall Man
      
      And they rivaled the best Michelin starred restaurants in the preparation and serving of human meat.
      
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      October 5, 2018 4:39pm
holysheet

A supreme court justice recently passed away and seeing her chance Hillary grabs the phone and calls the White House.
 “I demand to speak to the president!” Hillary screaches “It’s an emergency!” 
After a bunch of bickering she finally gets to talk to President Trump. “What is it, that is so important, that it couldn’t wait until morning?” Donald asked. 
“A Supreme Court Justice just passed away and I demand to take his place!” Hillary threatened.
After a little bit of thinking, Trump replied: “Well, it’s okay with me if it’s okay with the mortuary.”
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October 5, 2018 8:03am
double d

Read the herald editorial today and weep……
It implies that due to conservative judges being appointed in the USA and the tilting of the board to conservative views, Trump could be changing America for the worse…. those nasty conservative views ……
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October 5, 2018 8:06am
- holysheet
  
  Small steps lead to change. Nothing is going to stop the rest of us getting the balance put back where it belongs.
  “Give the lefties enough rope and they will end up stuffing it all up”
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:10am
  - Komata
    
    HS
    
    Re;“Give the lefties enough rope and they will end up stuffing it all up”
    
    Should it be ammended to read “Give the lefties enough rope and they will end up hanging from the wrong end of it”?
    
    Just asking; it seems to happen that way – eventually.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:53am
- G152
  
  The herald should mind its own decreasing readership and not the screaming anti Trump nutters
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:14am
  - VicParking
    
    Red Radio is no better this morning as the trundled out pro Democrat/Anti Trump commentators one after another
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:24am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Same as that shithead Professor from Auck Uni on TV1 yesterday. These commies need to pull their heads in
      
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      October 5, 2018 8:32am
    - igm
      
      The fact we are funding Red Radio really irks me . . . National must sell it or close it down when this COL collapses . . . which should not be far away.
      
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      October 5, 2018 8:33am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Sell red radio….if anyone would buy it
        Sell TV2…..to fox news???? Now that would drive the lefties NUTS.
        
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        October 5, 2018 8:42am
  - Harkman
    
    Check the Press, everyday the cartoons are either anti Trump (most days) or pro Cindy.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:21am
- MrLovebucket
  
  Terrible concepts such as personal responsibility?
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:38am
- Piniwi
  
  Funny double d hearing a bit of CNN in the background today they had a speaker saying the First Amendment protected the right to protest. However to them that seemed to sanction ALL forms of protest anywhere and everywhere by any means the protester thought necessary. Watching the protests in the USA makes us wonder if it is only something for protesters and other peoples rights are all at their pleasure. Even scary to watch for a mere male with the sound muted.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:49pm
Sofia

• The 8 September AGM was attended by members of the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand (FIANZ), leaders from the Muslim community, and Hon Jenny Salesa, [Labour] Minister for Ethnic Communities.

The President of FIANZ, Mustafa Farouk, discussed some of the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead in the New Zealand Muslim community. Farouk spoke of the need to have Muslims visible in key government sectors of society. The Muslim community provides New Zealand with a point of access to the global halal market.

In response to Dr Farouk’s speech the Hon Salesa shared her priority around increasing ethnic representation on State sector boards. She spoke of the recent approval of a cabinet paper that will collect ethnicity data on State sector boards. She hopes this achievement will aid her desire to see more ethnic people appointed to boards.

The Hon Salesa encouraged attendees to register with the Office of Ethnic Communities’ nominations service and participate in Kōrero Mātauranga, a public consultation from the Ministry of Education. She thanked the Muslim community for their contribution to New Zealand, and spoke of New Zealand’s diversity as a source of richness.
http://ethniccommunities.govt.nz/story/federation-islamic-associations-new-zealand-annual-general-meeting

• According to NZ First MP Clayton Mitchell, who is behind the the “Respecting New Zealand Values Bill”, the policy is “about being intolerant of intolerance”. And many conference delegates are reported as speaking strongly in favour it. For example, Roger Melville from Wairarapa says “There are people coming in here to be New Zealanders but they are not really New Zealanders at all, and they are actually forcing their ideologies onto you“.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12135775
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October 5, 2018 8:06am
- Justitia
  
  It’s a tried and true strategy. Infiltrate positions of responsibility and authority and open the gates to more of your own kind. Mass migration will overwhelm the last vestiges of “New Zealand values”.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:21am
  - igm
    
    Take a look what has happened in London . . . Mayor Khan now has a mandate to do as he wishes.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:35am
  - Sofia
    
    Islamic Organizations Australia
    Moslems comprise less than 3% of the Australian population, yet they have registered hundreds of charitable and other organizations, all supporting and promoting Islam.
    List of 325 organisations.
    
    They are just starting here.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:07am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Justitia, a lot of paranoid drivel!
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:26am
    - calendar girl
      
      You offer insults, insults and more insults, stephie. But, as usual, no coherent arguments against Justitia’s views.
      
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      October 5, 2018 11:13am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Verily you speak my brother. The infidel is just making up all the trucks of peace in Germany and mass stabbings in London.
      It is not because of the exaulted religion of Allah, but because of infidel intolerance and racism these things happen, so much, lately.
      Allah Akbar!
      
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      October 5, 2018 11:23am
    - igm
      
      Do you not realise you and your Islam mates are detested by all decent New Zealanders, so being a filthy socialist you should understand majority rules.
      
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      October 5, 2018 1:03pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy,your goats calling you ,something about being sexually abused by ztev…..
      
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      October 5, 2018 2:10pm
- KevOB
  
  Muslim is no part of my values. The Koran makes it plain Muslims are not compatible with Kiwi society. We don’t throw homosexuals off the sky tower or the roofs of towers in Lambton Quay.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:28am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Nor do most Muslims like most Christians ( err not sure about this crowd ),
    
    https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/six-members-an-anti-gay-protest-group-from-the-westboro-news-photo/587958894
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:27am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      You are quite correct, the most common punishment for gay is cane or make gay sit in pit with human shit.
      Nice!
      
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      October 5, 2018 11:50am
- Simon
  
  “Farouk spoke of the need to have Muslims visible in key government sectors of society”
  
  There is a separation between the Church (religion) & the State.
  
  He can fuck off and take his Paedo prophet with him.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:33am
  - igm
    
    Muslims are visible enough (too visible) as they slither around streets in their disgusting attires. Always seems to be a good representation of them outside Winz offices . . . Why?
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:44am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Inside WINZ is a huge ATM with no PIN number
      
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      October 5, 2018 8:47am
    - Inandout
      
      Muslims are like a society apart and relish their weird dress sense because it says to others, ‘fuck you’.
      
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      October 5, 2018 9:01am
      - igm
        
        Inandout: The may say, “Fuck You”, but at the same time don’t mind NZ taxpayers’ housing, benefits, health, education, etc., etc.
        They are becoming really insufferable in their demands, and attempts to foist their vile religious and cultural beliefs on our young people.
        I also take exception to the companies putting halal approvals on foodstuffs . . . don’t buy them!
        
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        October 5, 2018 9:13am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        No choice! Except for pork, I understand that all meat we buy is ‘halal’.
        
        So much for *our* freedom of religion! (As an atheist I’d like freedom from religion – apart from some of the historical cultural elements of christianity such as music, architecture and art).
        
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        October 5, 2018 4:03pm
    - stephieboy
      
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      igm , the moronic post of the week!
      
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      October 5, 2018 9:30am
      - starboard
        
        No shariaboy, your first post on Monday takes that award.
        
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        October 5, 2018 12:57pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy, fuck off goatboy.
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:13pm
  - Woz
    
    Muslims can just fuck off altogether. I can find no redeeming qualities in that creed. Part of this subscribing to “NZ values” should be Islamic apostasy.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:44am
- riffer
  
  Woah. Replace the word “Muslim” with “Jew” in most of the posts after the OP and take a step back. Does it sound a bit off? This muslim discussion is taking a dangerous turn of late.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:38am
  - Woz
    
    No, because it’s about the creed and values, not about the people. Once a Jew you were always a Jew. Muslims coming here can discard the dogma, the dress and the culture, and subscribe to being Kiwis – then perfectly welcome.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:46am
- Tall Man
  
  Apart from a pleasing increase in kebab shops, what contribution to NZ have they made?
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:44pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Respecting NZ Values
  
  That’s a good idea so long as NZ First don’t define what NZ values are.
  
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  October 5, 2018 7:02pm
cmm

The WalkAway campaign seems to be getting some traction.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDb4InP9mRZR9oogD1b2dOQ

Good to see the tide turning.
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October 5, 2018 8:07am
- stephieboy
  
  cmm, like where?
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:33am
  - cmm
    
    Like everywhere.
    
    Europe is pushing back hard.
    
    Even the people of Canukistan have had a gutsful.
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-conservatives-hope-for-atlantic-canada-comeback-in-wake-of-n-b-election-1.4112288
    
    You can WalkAway too stephie. Any time you want.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:48am
krazykiwi

Light rail. Epic fail

Spanish construction company Acciona has warned that Sydney’s troubled $A2.1 billion light rail risks taking an extra two months to finish and revealed that it now estimates the final cost to itself of constructing the line will double to $A1.8 billion.
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Acciona is suing the government for $A1.1 billion
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Acciona claims changes to Ausgrid’s guidelines for dealing with utilities under the route of the line after the public-private partnership contract was signed in 2015 had resulted in a 865-day delay – or two years and four months – to construction of the project

Delays. Turf wars. Planning cockups. More delays. Lawyers at 20 paces… Such fun!

Oh, which reminds me. Auckland, how’s your light rail project looking?
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October 5, 2018 8:09am
- Paulus
  
  And corrupt Australian Unions as usual.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:13am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and their carbon copy…….NZ unions.
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:38am
- Woz
  
  Spanish construction company. I think I see where this is going wrong. Remember that ferry?
  
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  October 5, 2018 6:31pm
igm

Taxpayers, decent people, and all those needing homes, take a look at this, and they are guaranteed a State house for life.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/107577648/hit-and-run-street-residents-want-problem-neighbours-out
Thank you Winston!
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October 5, 2018 8:09am
DigNap15

Hey, do you want to have some fun?

Yesterday I joined the Auckland Poverty Action Group
https://www.aaap.org.nz/

Its easy, you just give your email address and some comments.

They want the government to give more money to stop poverty.

My comment was that people should stop breeding children they cant afford, and get a good job and upskill themselves and have some pride and work ethic and don’t go to Auckland if you cant afford it or move somewhere else or go back to where you came from. etc.

They sent me an automated email thanking me!

Wouldn’t it be great if they got hundreds of similar new members from KB!
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October 5, 2018 8:10am
- Local Miller
  
  I’d say this is a bad move. They don’t give a hoot what you say, they just want “bums on seats”. As long as they have X many 100’s of members they will claim they are representative of the will of the NZ population. The fact that half the members believe most poverdy is self inflicted won’t matter to them.
  
  More fun to join up on mass, then pull your membership after a few days.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:18am
  - Harkman
    
    Like lefty petitions, half the names and signatures are fake.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:25am
    - Muttonbird
      
      Just like the Taxdodgers’ Union OIA requests then!
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:47am
      - Harkman
        
        Cindy didn’t pay any tax on the sale of her house. Aunt Hulun owned 6 houses, who’s the tax dodger
        
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        October 5, 2018 12:36pm
      - igm
        
        muttonhead: You reference to Taxdodgers elucidates what I thought . . . you are a typical unemployable envious useless loser!
        
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        October 5, 2018 1:06pm
secondcumming

NZ and Australia have a new *Grand Mufti*……Taj El-Din Hilaly.

I wonder what punishment he would have given this low-life scum had it been up to him to impose sentence?

https://twitter.com/smh/status/1047654345788018688
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October 5, 2018 8:11am
- krazykiwi
  
  Ah yes, the chap that once likened “immodestly dressed” women to pieces of meat. Quite the charmer.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There is some controversy over who holds the title of Australian Grand Mufti
  https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-grand-mufti-confirms-he-is-the-only-legitimate-leader
  
  Taj El-Din Hilaly “retired’ in 2007 according to Wikipedia….He seems to have had quite a chequered history
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_El-Din_Hilaly
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:51am
conservative70

Massey has again proven it needs ministerial intervention: https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/107443172/sue-bradford-takes-up-residence-as-massey-universitys-activist

Don Brash is banned but Sue Bradford is hired as an “activist in residence”?

There are Maori connections all over this, yet again, with a key faculty member of the “Centre for Culture-Centred Approach to Research and Evaluation” being Steve Ellers: http://tur-www1.massey.ac.nz/~wwcare/core-faculty/

This is the same Maori academic who wrote an opinion piece on a Maori greeting walkout: https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/opinion/103955989/Walkout-on-M-ori-greeting-portays-prejudice-and-ignorance-in-New-Zealand-culture

Ellers was also behind the “name change” of Massey to a Maori name: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/84753337/Massey-racism-provokes-call-for-university-name-change

Unless the Maorification of Massey is stopped (ie Treaty-led nonsense) this will be coming to a university near you soon.
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- KevOB
  
  The JT, VC, is already Activist in Residence.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:33am
- Philview
  
  I just looked up Sue Bradford on wikipedia and surprised to read her academic background. I always assumed she was just some kind of loud mouth beneficiary with a chip on her shoulder.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:33am
  - sooty
    
    Never far from the trough!
    
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    October 5, 2018 8:47am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I have had the misfortune to be seated near Bradford in a North-shore pub one day where she was eating.
      
      I concur that spare ribs are a trifle messy but she made the whole unedifying lip smacking sleeve wiping spectacle at ‘the trough’, quite off putting.
      
      Plenty of trough practice on display for sure.
      
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      October 5, 2018 9:23am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        So amongst her many other failings she’s also a cannibal?
        
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        October 5, 2018 11:59am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        didn’t look pre-colonisation Maori; I too scared to get too close and stayed well out of the spatter zone
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:18pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Sue Bradford had some life experience before she entered politics.
    
    https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/news/current-affairs/sue-bradford-reveals-how-personal-tragedy-inspired-her-to-become-a-politician-33357
    
    I think you will find Sue Bradford is very critical of some stuff the Greens are now up to.
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/05-02-2018/my-old-party-is-betraying-its-own-proud-history-on-the-waka-jumping-bill/
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:20am
    - Philview
      
      Thanks Maggie, that is an interesting read.
      
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      October 5, 2018 2:16pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Drain the swamp
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:38am
  - stephieboy
    
    Like here in front of the White House,
    
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44224389
    
    LOL
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:35am
- wiseowl
  
  The Maorification and takeover of Massey needs to be stopped in its tracks. Now.
  There is no place for a culture to rule in a teaching institution.
  Have been looking at a course online at a top US University and it is good to read details with not a mention of culture.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:02am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  WTF are taxpayers being required to pay Sue Bradford to trot her line of shit out?
  
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  October 5, 2018 11:58am
Captain Mainwaring

Funny how the Muttonbrain and Morris 1100 tag team has disappeared since the pasting they received on here recently. Marquess has been a bit quiet as well.
Obviously they’ve all been summonsed back to Fraser House for some urgent retraining.
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October 5, 2018 8:18am
- Poppa
  
  Even Milky is quiet, there must be some serious discussions at Fraser.
  
  I wonder how Ztev is coping with all the stuff ups? Probably consoling himself with JK did it first
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:30am
- Simon
  
  The quality of Labo’s fluffers has never been good.
  
  Ztev was so angry, soyboy is a mong, Mikeinmild cant hold it together emotionally, Marquess is a parrot, Muttonbrain has half of soyboy’s intellect and Morris is so boring.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:52am
  - DigNap15
    
    Good to see that someone is keeping track of them!
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:35am
    - Simon
      
      Its easy to spot the mo.
      
      Look at soyboy triggered by FBI clearing Kavanaugh.
      
      Senile soyboy spraying it around today like his colostomy bag has got a leak.
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:27am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Captain Mainwaring,
  
  What pasting? They more than likely feel a total waste of time dealing with unhinged alt right cabbage heads like you!
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:38am
  - Lance
    
    I am deeply upset and emotionally harmed by that statement……………………………………….. snigger
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:41am
secondcumming

One of the blokes at the gun club was saying, “……if you’re ever feeling a bit down and insecure, the best thing you can do is illegally park in Disabled Car Park. Before you know it, the world and his wife will rush over and tell you there is nothing wrong with you.”
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October 5, 2018 8:28am
- softail 1450
  
  Secondcumming ,I had a whale of a woman do exactly that to me a few months ago in the pack n save carpark at westgate ,I Was waiting for my elderly ma while she shopped ,”you dont look very disabled ” she screamed at me ,apparently “lady you haven’t met my family ” was the wrong thing to say , “Arsehole” was the last word it said as it waddled off,
  there were five or six vacant dissabled parks in the same spot ,some folk just can’t mind their own fricking business….
  
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  October 5, 2018 2:28pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And yet you shouldn’t have been there without the appropriate window card.
    
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    October 5, 2018 4:56pm
oldpark

Just been reading an article about a so called big noter in Wellington . His name Peter Biggs running an outfit known as( Wreda). Seems Biggs and his off sider another free loader called Chris Whelan were exposed spending up large on Wellington Rate Payers supplied credit cards.
Seems in the food line both bludgers stuffed their guts with Bluff Oysters fine wines and many many Rate Payer funded sorties.
Interesting to note when bludger Biggs was challenged and asked for a please explain,he turned the colour of bad shit and repaid $5000.
Latest news he is standing down ,maybe even lying down with his guts full of Bluff oysters and top shelf wines.All supplied by Wellington Rate Payers.
Now i see Mr Goody Two Shoes Justin Lester Wellington’s Mayor,Nuff said, has paid tribute to him for his organising (Wreda)and leaving it in good shape.What another bloody indictment of endorsing the born to spend gang which seems to know no boundaries of spending Wellington Rate Payers money,seems without a beg you’re pardon.
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October 5, 2018 8:38am
VicParking

Re building the Waikeria prison.
How soon we forget the Ministry of works camps that were all over NZ in the 50’s ans 60’s. Now the unions are calling them prisons within prisons but in those days the unions loved them as they were used like purse seine nets to keep unions members together and ready to strike.
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October 5, 2018 8:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Seems the Union are worried the folks working on the project will be drug and alcohol tested.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/367964/waikeria-workers-camp-slammed-as-a-prison-to-build-a-prison
  
  The 12 hour working day and lack of conjugal facilities also seems to be a worry.
  
  Gosh, I wonder how all those folks who flock to Aussie manage to put up with such conditions?
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:22am
  - Tempist
    
    Now perhaps if they’d only had drug and alcohol testing at Labour Youth Camps…
    
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    October 5, 2018 12:51pm
    - Tall Man
      
      You mean like you need a positive result to get in?
      
      I think they’re already up with that.
      
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      October 5, 2018 4:59pm
- Piniwi
  
  Funny VP the interesting priorities the unions are concerned with but perhaps the plan might not include many union numbers even if “locals” get first option on the jobs. Also amusing the resistance levels of the unions are “across party lines” so to speak.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:29pm
Simon

Widespread death for synthetic drug users. The dealers instead of getting 10 years inside its six months home detention.

There is no war on drugs. Its a myth.
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October 5, 2018 8:42am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, we in NZ have never had a war on drugs.
  Light namby pamby sentences for the dealers!
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:49am
  - KevOB
    
    Synthetic cannabis is not. There should be no question about such drugs being illegal. Possession for supply should carry a minimum 5 year non-parole custodial sentence.
    
    Drug dealers have always been active in deceit. It’s an old trick giving someone something and calling it something else. Dealers don’t care about consequences just dollars.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:02am
    - kowtow
      
      ‘Dealers don’t care about consequences just dollars.’
      
      Then the penalties should be so severe they wouldn’t even think about doing it. Seize every last asset the c#nts own , control or have access to. They can after their lengthy prison term live on a park bench somewhere.
      
      Either that or shoot them.
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:12am
      - KevOB
        
        I did say a minimum of 5 years in the slammer.
        
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        October 5, 2018 11:44am
- Philview
  
  Per Chloe Swarbrick “It is a health issue”. I am sure she is well intentioned but she as a Green Party MP should know that the world has an unsustainable overpopulation and we can no longer afford to carry people who deliberately kill other people. The war on drugs should be exactly that, we treat the addicts and wipe out the dealers and drug Lords.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:59am
  - KevOB
    
    Confusing health with “synthetic cannabis” is ignorance. Only one molecule difference changes THC into harmless cannabidiol, CBD. That does not make other illegal modifications healthy or safe. That is for the purposes of addiction and repeat business. Dealers don’t care about the affects on the buyer.
    CBD may have therapeutic potential but others are readily available and proven.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:15am
    - stigie
      
      Why call it synthetic cannabis when it’s really just a poison, it is 400 times more potent than normal cannibus.
      A better name for it would be synthetic herbs that is literally soaked in poison.
      
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      October 5, 2018 10:39am
      - KevOB
        
        A marketing ploy.
        
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        October 5, 2018 11:46am
  - riffer
    
    Well, she’s half right.
    
    For the users, it is a health issue, for sure. And probably a number of other issues, but we won’t got there.
    
    But the dealers – that’s a criminal issue.
    
    And we’ve tended to treat both as a criminal issue. That’s what doesn’t work. We need to treat the users health issues – both mental and physical, while at the same time treating the dealers as criminals.
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:52am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Philview but it seems this little default list MP is trying to lift her profile while we already know she is as bat shit crazy as the rest just a smaller package. Let them try to make it a “health” issue but also be prepared for a bigger fleet of ambulances at the foot of the cliff. Most level headed people could not care less if their choice is real or synthetic dope as they understand that choice is a personal thing and all choices in life come with consequences. These too come in intended and unintended forms along with lessons gained from each accordingly. They also understand what dope means being equally as applicable to the object and the participant while standing back for each individuals right to choose. If what it takes is a higher body count then we will appreciate the input to making the “health” approach provide a saving on the system.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:04pm
igm

Why do councils waste ratepayers’ monies on these road maggot bastards?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107607595/toddler-left-with-broken-arm-after-hit-and-run-with-cyclist-in-dunedin
Maybe it is the current scum in Parliament to blame for this type of incident!
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October 5, 2018 8:49am
- VicParking
  
  In Whanganui if you have a break light not working you are pulled over and given a ticket. Yet the police drive past cyclists with no helmets, no hands on handle bars and weaving all over the road. The Cycle ways are empty and we have special lights just for these non existant ‘road maggots’. Council spends approx 40c for each car and $230 for each ?‍♀️.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:01am
VicParking

In the last few days the GOP has removed funding from a few inspiring senators who have fallen behind in the polls. This is a warning to the three ‘Flake’y senator that their days are numbered with the vote against Kav…
Polls are saying the over 60% of GOP voters are in favour on Kav… and it wont be hard to remove these three from the ticket.
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October 5, 2018 8:51am
- Harkman
  
  Who lost their funding?
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:28am
  - VicParking
    
    Kansas Rep. Kevin Yoder
    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/01/report-gop-cuts-funds-for-rep-yoder-in-tough-race/
    
    Martha Roby (R-AL)
    And one in Florida cant remember name
    
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    October 5, 2018 9:57am
VicParking

900. Maori’s were polled and a large majority say that they are in prision because of the rasist white people. I say “If you don’t do the crime you wont serve the time”
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October 5, 2018 8:54am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, I read that.
  The sad thing is that many Maoris and others are starting to believe it.
  The real reason is that they are lazy and want to ape American gangs and have an easy life by selling drugs, kicking back all day and living in a state house that their girlfriend got by having 3 children to different fathers.
  
  Its time they were told the real reasons, and time they tried to move up in the world!
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:58am
- Philview
  
  Sadly, the current Government is pushing this message hard that an institutionally racist judicial system is locking up Maoris. We have some divisive scum in charge of the country now and they are pushing hard for a US style culture war.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:18am
- Inandout
  
  Some are left alone to deal drugs, like the house in Emmett St, ChCh.
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:48am
- Niz
  
  At the risk of being branded a racist, I wonder if anybody has considered the possibility that maybe their culture has something to do with it?
  How does this institutional racism manage to single out Maori? Do PI offend at similar rates to Maori?
  Inter-generational trauma? What even is that? Is that when the girls get abused by their older relations? Is that when a grandmother takes her grandkids with her when shoplifting to act as distractions?
  Colonisation? What is this awful ‘colonisation’? The bringing of the rule of law, science, education, that sort of thing? Teaching that killing and eating your enemy isn’t the way forward? Is that what it is? Colonisation is a _bad_ thing?
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:50am
  - Garbageman
    
    Never be afraid of being branded a racist for perfectly valid views Niz thats what the bastards want you to feel as i shuts down any debate around the subject and emboldens the pricks to become even more vocal with their lies and anti stale pale male agenda
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:42am
  - KevOB
    
    We had a truce with Maori for a long time. The tribes still kept issues with each other and us on a short list. Now snowflakes want to play sides without knowing which game they have joined. I am sensing some stirred up tribal nationalism surfacing we don’t have an easy peace.
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:52am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Considering that the Polynesians hail from SE Asia, and that the majority of self-identifying Maori would hold 50% of more of Caucasian genes, I would say that the culture is holding the (urban non-iwified) Maori back.
  
  What sort of negative cultural factors would these be?
  
  – Over-reliance on other members of the group
  – Excessive deference to “elders” simply because they are elders
  – The belief in and support for inherited social rank
  – Association of scholarship with “acting _____” (insert over-achieving ethnicity of choice)
  – Lack of printed materials in the home
  – Poor nutrition/smoking/alcohol/drugs during pregnancy and a lack of concern for possible effects
  – Outward expression of emotion (especially anger) considered a plus, especially in males
  – A “fat is beautiful” culture
  – An excessive concern about what one’s peers think
  – Lack of respect for peers who do not “toe the line”
  – A siege mentality of “closing ranks” to protect group members (even when they have committed criminal acts) because every man is needed to protect the group from “outsiders”
  – A over-developed sense of “territory” (outsiders are not welcome to my neighborhood, school, etc.)
  – The ever-lasting memory of all wrongs, slights or insults
  – A sense of entitlement for imagined grievances that allegedly happened before time of birth
  – A mindset of “you have to look after me because ______”
  – An inability to consider the perspectives of other ethnic groups nor any curiosity at adopting their ways
  
  The list goes on.
  
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  October 5, 2018 11:37am
  - Niz
    
    A couple of items of importance for _any_ culture to hold dear…
    1) educate your children.
    2) don’t abuse/rape/murder your children.
    3) respect the law, even if there’s an arsehole policeman picking on you.
    4) don’t have too many children.
    5) educate your children.
    6) read to your children.
    7) respect others and their property. Aka the golden rule.
    Just noticed – none of those things actually costs very much.
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:50am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Here’s one for South Korea and Japan.
      
      – Have children (not “have a child”)
      
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      October 5, 2018 12:41pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Niz, all of your points are very valid, and I see brilliant application of them among the Koreans and Chinese I know.
      
      So much for my ‘racism’.
      
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      October 5, 2018 4:43pm
DigNap15

How can we stop the Maorifaction of our schools and universities?
Write to Chris Hipkins?
Write to National MPs?
One good way would be for parents to not send their children to any of them.
When they have falling roles, the idiots might start to realise their evil mistakes

I am all for encouraging Maori people to study useful courses (not sociology) at university, but it has to be in a modern, non apartheid manner.
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October 5, 2018 8:54am
Kabull

There appears to be a growing movement in the USA for intelligent people to walk away from the Democratic Party. #WalkAway.
You mightn’t have the time to watch the full clips, but these are examples of how people are recognising the awfulness of the left and turning their backs on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezGyk016XOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51UGcghHZsk
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October 5, 2018 9:08am
- Inandout
  
  I think the CoL walkaway started in NZ months ago when voters realised that Jacinda wasn’t a real fairy.
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:46am
  - DigNap15
    
    I’d like to think you are right, but I bet the next polls wont reflect that.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:55am
    - Inandout
      
      The polls are on hold I hear.
      
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      October 5, 2018 11:11am
      - sooty
        
        The media are too scared to run them!
        
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        October 5, 2018 12:43pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    When the realisation came that it was asbestos dust and not the pixie variety that had been promised.
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:30pm
Fletch

The GOP Senate news conference today –

https://www.facebook.com/capitolhillbrief/videos/vb.1539261336193582/1133118820173791/?type=2&theater

The FBI report did not corroborate any allegations against Kavanaugh.
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October 5, 2018 9:18am
- riffer
  
  I’ve read many reports that state that the terms of reference for the FBI were so narrow they could not have come up with any different result. It’s sad… Kavanaugh may very well be innocent, but if we can’t have faith in the investigation’s impartiality, he may never really get to prove his innocence. Also, his partisan attitude (accusing Democrats of a conspiracy isn’t the kind of thing an aspiring Supreme Court judge should be saying out loud) is probably more of a problem than any alleged historical issues. On the balance of probabilities my thoughts tend towards he’s not really of fit character to be a judge. I have no idea about the sexual assault allegations. They are neither proved nor disproved. Character is what is more important here.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:56am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘On the balance of probabilities my thoughts tend towards he’s not really of fit character to be a judge’
    
    If every very high profile person in every position of trust/ power/ accountability were put under the scrutiny and open to every false accusation and accuser in the country , you’d be very hard pressed to find someone who was of “fit character”.
    
    There’s a culture war on and these accusers are the foot soldiers of hate , destruction and division.And the media are part of it too.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:20am
  - Inandout
    
    So these Justices have nothing in their history for a CNN type character assassination?
    
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx
    
    Yeah right.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:43am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Wow! That was strait out of the Democrates apologist, shift the subject to something else playbook.
    The Dems are saying the witness was interviewed but it doesn’t count as the witness has friends who were not interviewed to support their credibility. Therefore Fords allegation is still valid as its not proven false.
    Change the argument to impartiality. Despite the absence of impartiality of the Democrates and the attack on the candidate purely on political lines. Ignoring his competence and supporting a false allegation with the intent of wrongly destroying his reputation for political gain. He called them out, called a spade a spade.
    
    There is only one truth. When a person is wrongly attacked it is all our obligation to protect them. We cannot let evil prevail. We cannot allow evil acts destroy a person, and destroy that persons future. We cannot allow a process to be perverted by evil. To now vote against Kavanaugh is a vote supporting that evil.
    
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    October 5, 2018 10:58am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Here’s riffer again presenting himself as the reasonable version of steffie, milkey and ztev when he is simply another leftie troll expressing his nut job progressive spin. As has been said time and time again the Democrats have moved the goal posts further and further down the field and nothing would satisfy them except a rejection of Kavanaugh. Innocent until proven guilty riffer.
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:24am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    He doesn’t have to prove his innocence.
    
    You really, really do not want to move into a world where justice places the burden of proof on the accused rather than on the accuser.
    
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    October 5, 2018 11:56am
  - KevOB
    
    An accuser’s character in a political contest is also relevant. The greater the consequences of the allegations the greater the onus of proof on the maker.
    
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    October 5, 2018 12:05pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    How many investigations did he have to undergo? Of course it was narrow and dealt with these last accusations, weren’t there 6 previous ones or something?
    
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    October 5, 2018 12:48pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘ Kavanaugh may very well be innocent’
    
    Kavanaugh is innocent.
    
    You’re welcome.
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:31pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    So, a person is tarred with vilest of smears by a bunch of liars, his family and wife receiving death threats, and he’s supposed to just sit and take it ?
    
    The whole thing has been precisely a conspiracy to derail his nomination by inventing accusations. Notice how Ford’s allegations changed – as a specific point became open to disproof the story changed to make it less specific and harder to disprove. Plus she’s perjured herself about the polygraph test. Lied and perjured herself about the “extra front door” as a trigger. None of the people she directly named as being present/complicit give her ANY (!) support what so ever for her fairy tale.
    
    But of course Kavanaugh should just take that calmly and give her respect.
    
    Try lying in front of a judge and see how much respect you get.
    
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    October 5, 2018 5:03pm
  - Tall Man
    
    List those reports or take your “facts” and fuck off.
    
    Typical left wing response. If the facts don’t support the argument, start a rumour and repeat it often.
    
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    October 5, 2018 5:09pm
secondcumming

A mate of mine runs the FX Desk for a large Financial Institution in New York.
Apparently, there is a huge number of highly educated young talent currently seeking employment with their organization and others like it.

His biggest worry, is who will be around to service the *Ski-Lifts* at Aspen in the next few years?
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October 5, 2018 9:23am
Harkman

I’m still staggered that Twyford recently received a 2.7 out of 5. That slimebag isn’t good enough for a pass mark.
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October 5, 2018 9:32am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Another sample from the US Presidents most beautiful poems

MAGA!1

Will Smith did a great job by smacking the guy “reporter” who kissed him2 Together we’re going to fix our rigged system3 Sarah Jessica Parker voted “unsexiest woman alive” – I agree4 We must keep “evil” out of our country5 A person who is very flat chested is very hard to be a ten6 We’re going to make America great again7

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2017/09/i-discovered-secret-poetry-donald-trump-and-its-tremendous

It’s a Carnage! (Part I)
by Donald J. Trump

I can’t believe what our country is doing!
You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst!
It’s a carnage!
This guy, he’s like a maniac, OK?
I mean, this guy doesn’t play games!
And we can’t play games with him!
It’s a carnage!
Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick!
We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives!
It’s a carnage!
Make America great again!
Politics is such a disgrace!
Good people don’t go into government!
It’s a carnage!
Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault!
It’s largely a rigged system!
I’m just thinking to myself right now, we should just cancel the election …
Please say it! Please tell me: “Trump, you’re fired!”
It’s a carnage!

http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20Poetry%20the%20Best%20Poems%20of%20Donald%20Trump.htm

Perfect Xmas gift for the impending silly season!
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October 5, 2018 9:44am
- softail 1450
  
  septicboy,”downtick the dick”and move on.
  
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  October 5, 2018 3:07pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Irish housing debacle: Nothing learned about the critical importance of open land supply and appropriate debt financing of infrastructure …

… via … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/links-5-october-2018/

Unlike New Zealanders ( refer http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/ ) , Ireland, with (of all things) its British style planning system, has not learned a thing following the 2007 crash, about the critical importance of open land supply and the appropriate debt financing of infrastructure …

Thousands march on Irish parliament in growing housing shortage protest … Reuters / MSM Com

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/thousands-march-on-irish-parliament-in-growing-housing-shortage-protest/ar-BBNSIZ0

With its British style planning system, the Irish housing bubble burst in 2007, when its major metros went from 4.7 times annual household incomes to 2.8 times some years later, putting all its Banks to the wall and requiring bailouts of in excess of 70 billion euros …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm

Why are they repeating recent history ?
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October 5, 2018 9:47am
- Inandout
  
  Dumb Irish, who really gives a toss?
  
  ‘Islam is Ireland’s third largest religion. There are 63,400 practising Muslims living in Ireland and approximately 50 mosques and prayer centres within the State, with five Muslim clergymen or qualified imams. There is more than one mosque or prayer centre in each province.Jun 7, 2017’
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:38am
  - stephieboy
    
    With a population of 4.7million. 63,400 is very small in comparison. Rather like ours
    
    50 Mosques???
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:07pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It is a quote…
      50 mosques and prayer centres…
      
      Read it yourself here:
      https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/islam-is-irelands-third-largest-religion-451879.html
      
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      October 5, 2018 2:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, that appears to be so but at 1.1% ( 20011) of the population that is an extraordinary number of Mosques.
        
        Also thinking of NZ ‘s stats with a similar number ( 46,500) and we certainly don’t have 50. I wonder where the Irish Examiner go theirs?
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_New_Zealand#Islam
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:25pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Do you not understand that the figure 50 encompasses prayer centres as well as mosques?
        
        You are the only person thinking that it means 50 mosques.
        
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        October 5, 2018 2:41pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy “downtick the dick”and move on.
      
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      October 5, 2018 3:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  Those must be lies as the tooth fairy told me that New Zealand is the only country in the world with a housing shortage and child poverty.
  
  She also said she is the only person on the world that knows how to solve it, she’s just waiting for Winston to sign of on the plan but she’s still a few baubles light in the negotiations.
  
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  October 5, 2018 5:12pm
BeaB

I am finding it hard to keep up.
So saying ’embarrassing’ is bad but ‘cunter’ is okay.
Or is it just anything a Nat does is bad and anything Labour and Greens do is perfectly okay?
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October 5, 2018 9:48am
- riffer
  
  Sometime it certainly seems that way doesn’t it? I long for the day when we throw bipartisanship aside and call stupid behaviour and ideas for what they are.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:58am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Don’t you know that the word embarrassing leads to conjecture and cunter leaves no doubt, will it enter into NZ vernacular?
  
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  October 5, 2018 10:25am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Gunts, claim that one you useless dicks!
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:35pm
starboard

Another special up for murder.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137358
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October 5, 2018 11:00am
- Niz
  
  It was the institutional racism, inter-generational trauma, and colonisation that (allegedly) made him do it. If found guilty he’ll be deserving of a 30% discount.
  
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  October 5, 2018 11:04am
- secondcumming
  
  With this one, the word ‘Neanderthal’ comes to mind…….
  
  https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1047974859811311616
  
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  October 5, 2018 11:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    Trump supporter rather like I think you are?
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:10pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy,”downtick the dick” and move on .
      
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      October 5, 2018 3:10pm
cmm

Don’t fill up on 26 October!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137376

How stupid can people get? What do the petrol companies care? ANyone not filling up on 26 October will just fill up on 25th or 27th no worries. No change in petrol consumption.

This is such pathetic virtue signalling. It is sad people like this are allowed to vote!
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October 5, 2018 11:32am
- DigNap15
  
  I always said that if you could organise a boycott pick one brand and don’t buy from them till they all drop their prices by say 20 cents and make it the same all over the country!
  But you could never get every one to agree to do it.
  
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  October 5, 2018 3:51pm
  - starboard
    
    Agree. Start with BP, they are the biggest pricks.
    
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    October 5, 2018 4:32pm
Fletch

Support for Trump is back up to 50%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_updates/prez_track_oct04
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October 5, 2018 11:39am
Stars And Stripes

‘Time to take a stand’: Kiwis set for nationwide petrol boycott
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137376
“Disgruntled Kiwis are set to take a stand against the petrol industry and the Government over petrol prices, with plans to boycott all petrol stations around the country.
A Facebook event has been created encouraging the public to avoid filling up from all petrol stations around the country on October 26.
So far more than 6500 people have committed to the boycott with another 10,000 showing their interest in making a stand

What a joke you bunch of retards.
Maybe if you gave up all your freebies like working for families, free doctors visits for kids and other troughing shit then maybe the government would not need to tax petrol so much to pay for all your bludging.
You want free shit you pay-simple really.
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October 5, 2018 11:43am
Maggy Wassilieff

Tuvaluan Language Week

https://www.omniglot.com/writing/tuvaluan.htm

(Anyone noticed anything about this Language week in the MSM?
Bit strange running it during the School Holidays)
I did come across this:
http://pacific.scoop.co.nz/2018/09/tuvalu-language-week-celebrates-culture-and-heritage/
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October 5, 2018 11:45am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  I know some Tuvaluan language.
  The word Tuvalu itself roughly translates into English as “shithole” or alternatively “land of corned beef”.
  
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  October 5, 2018 11:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool, and he who dares not is a slave.
    
    William Drummond
    
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    October 5, 2018 2:33pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Instead of looking at the glossy pamphlets from the Flight Centre why don’t you go to Tuvalu and see how much of a shithole it is for yourself.
      Too many people all jammed into a little atoll, all pissing and shitting in each others drinking water and fouling the beach with rubbish.
      Actually on second thoughts probably no need as you take your holidays in India right, the biggest craphole on the planet inhabited by primitive savages whose biggest delight is taking a shit on the train tracks in the morning.
      
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      October 5, 2018 2:54pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy “speaking utter shit”
      
      septicboy…..
      
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      October 5, 2018 3:11pm
- KevOB
  
  Population 10K.
  
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  October 5, 2018 12:13pm
Inandout

I heard that a conservative Supreme Court Judge hasn’t been appointed for 30 years! Shit, little wonder that the Dems are desperate to stall Kavanaugh.
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October 5, 2018 11:57am
- secondcumming
  
  *BREAKING*
  
  DOJ releases report into Kavanaugh…..
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dom_7O7V4AAceW0.jpg
  
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  October 5, 2018 12:06pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  Umm…..
  
  Gorsuch? Last year?
  
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  October 5, 2018 12:13pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    It’s a variant of the No True Scotsman argument…
    
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    October 5, 2018 1:13pm
- stephieboy
  
  Inandout , that simply is not true. President GW Bush appointed two and numerous others to the lower appellate courts,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_George_W._Bush
  
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  October 5, 2018 2:38pm
cmm

So the Mega Fighter report is finally coming out.

Did it really take this long to bleach it so much that it is now transparent?
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October 5, 2018 1:18pm
Fletch

Senator Hatch tells the screaming harpies to grow up….

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1047966419692994561/video/1
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October 5, 2018 1:22pm
Fletch

Massive anti-Kavanaugh protests in Washington. 302 people arrested including Amy Schumer (awww… couldn’t happen to a nicer person…lol).

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/04/video-photos-left-wing-anti-kavanaugh-protesters-descend-on-d-c-we-do-not-consent/

I have to say, since Trump got elected I couldn’t see how the Democrats and the media could get any lower but they have surpassed expectations. They are completely partisan now and seem to have lost all control of their faculties. They don’t even work with caution now, and no underhanded tool or tactic is beyond them. It’s a fkn disgrace, especially the using of a woman to smear a guy. I’ve never seen anything so disgraceful. You’d think they’d be ashamed or embarrassed but they are beyond that. They have no scruples whatsoever. It’s a sign of their desperation, especially after 8 years of the liberal Obama. They are desperate to hold onto power. It’s so transparent, and it’s ugly. These are not nice people. Rotten to the core.
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October 5, 2018 1:37pm
- Huevon
  
  A conservative majority on the US SC represents a massive political loss for the left/progressives/liberal/Labour-types. Of course, there is beautiful irony if the court becomes activist on conservative issues – petard, hoisting, etc.
  
  I imagine the next move will be open talk of disregarding Court decisions, discussing secession etc. It seems unlikely that both sides will back down.
  
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  October 5, 2018 1:42pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: Falling activity, declining orders and layoffs: The signs Australia’s housing construction boom is over | Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-construction-housing-downturn-2018-10

• Activity levels across Australia’s construction sector declined for the first time in 20 months.

• Weakness was acute in residential construction and marginally weaker for commercial work. The only area of strength came from government-backed engineering work.

• New orders declined, staff were shed and margin pressures for firms were intense. … read more via hyperlink above …
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6700 apartment projects across Australia blacklisted for loans by a major bank | afr.com … behind paywall

https://www.afr.com/real-estate/6700-apartment-projects-across-australia-blacklisted-for-loans-by-a-major-bank-20181003-h1669d

A major bank has a blacklist of 6700 apartment projects across Australia where buyers are refused loans or are offered reduced loan to value ratios (LVR), according to mortgage broker Home Loan Experts. Read more via hyperlink above (behind paywall) …

Via …

Off-the-plan apartments valuations plunge – MacroBusiness (behind paywall)

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/off-plan-apartment-crunch-valuations-plunge/
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October 5, 2018 1:48pm
RF

Guys night out last night and over a few beers discussed the future of our country.

Unfortunately for Simon his mis-step has sealed his fate. Nice guy but we need some mongrel.

A suitable replacement is Judith Collins as leader and Mark Mitchell as deputy.

As for Ardern she is very dangerous and putting us on a destructive path. Her anti Trump stance has blinded her judgement and she flounders around completely out of her depth flashing her toothy smiles.

She enjoys the attention and will not let this go until she gets the arse card.

It was agreed by all that she is Peter’s bitch.
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October 5, 2018 2:28pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  And Helens; the original Odd couple.
  
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  October 5, 2018 2:40pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Peter who?
  
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  October 5, 2018 2:59pm
  - softail 1450
    
    muttonbird,,,the gnome…..
    
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    October 5, 2018 3:18pm
    - RF
      
      Yep… the hobbit.
      
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      October 5, 2018 4:16pm
- Poppa
  
  Mark Mitchell seems quite promising, I would be happy to see him promoted
  
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  October 5, 2018 3:23pm
- Inandout
  
  JC and MM would be the dream team in my opinion. The toothed one needs a definite shafting over her lies and drunken sailor spending. Waiting until election year for a change of National leader will simply be too late.
  
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  October 5, 2018 6:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Redacted Meka Whaitiri report here:

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/368002/official-report-into-meka-whaitiri-incident-released
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October 5, 2018 3:01pm
- cmm
  
  So is this the Friday-afternoon release or is it just the fog for the real Friday afternoon release?
  
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  October 5, 2018 3:11pm
- softail 1450
  
  M W,cant read it there maggy…..??
  
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  October 5, 2018 3:14pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ok,
    Here they are on the DIA site
    https://www.dia.govt.nz/Proactive-Releases
    
    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/Patten-Proactive-Release-Oct-2018/$file/Final-Report-5-Oct-18_Redacted.pdf
    
    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/Patten-Proactive-Release-Oct-2018/$file/Investigation-ToR-5-Oct_redacted.pdf
    
    https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/Files/Patten-Proactive-Release-Oct-2018/$file/Letter-to-David-Patten-5-Oct-Response-to-Draft-Report_Redacted.pdf
    
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    October 5, 2018 4:38pm
- Tall Man
  
  Come on, you have to admire the skill and resolve of the National party to embed a radical right winger into the very heart of the lazy labour deeply enough to finally get a job within the labour elite. Then Sir John and probably Sir William English managed to infiltrate the minister’s coffee and get her some angry pills so that she lost her rag and assaulted her staff.
  
  It has to be so as everything else that these twits have done wrong is because National caused it.
  
  God they must have been an awesome bunch, almost suitable for a Marvel series.
  
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  October 5, 2018 6:18pm
EAD_TWO

The propaganda of the MSM is beyond a joke – this from (((Bloomberg))):

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-16/let-in-more-africans-if-you-want-educated-immigrants
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October 5, 2018 3:43pm
starboard

Just listened to Ardern during a media conference. What a fuckin egg.

abilidy
guvmint
gubbermint
communidy
’nuff
weport ( report)
poverdy
madder madder ( Matamata )
wanna
cuntcil ( Council
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October 5, 2018 3:55pm
- DigNap15
  
  I’m glad I never heard it!
  I wonder if she speaks lie that because
  1) Shes trying to copy Helun Clark
  2) Shes trying to change the English language
  3) She’s just badly educated?
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:07pm
  - starboard
    
    Maybe the fangs are gettin in the way?
    
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    October 5, 2018 5:51pm
  - Tall Man
    
    None of the above…she’s an idiot.
    
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    October 5, 2018 5:53pm
    - howitis
      
      Agreed
      
      Gaylord’s wench touches on #3, but being the dumbass she is I am not sure any amount of education would make her smart.
      
      Add that to no real world experience and you have a total+dumbass.
      
      Can’t be #2 as she clearly does not know the English language in the first place; nor did she know Maori and never learnt it whilst Bill English learnt Maori; had a wife; six kids; became a Samoan chief without giving away billions in bribes to Samoa; and ran the country’s finances.
      Ardern was practicing her Russian and merely mastered the word ‘Comrades’.
      
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      October 5, 2018 6:47pm
      - RF
        
        I respect the office of Prime Minister but I have utter contempt for the scatter brained bimbo that currently fills the position.
        
        We can do much better than her.
        
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        October 5, 2018 10:54pm
- DigNap15
  
  I’ll look them up in my Maori dictionaries!
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:21pm
DigNap15

I see that Labour have reduced the prison population by letting some out, not jailing some (attacker on 82 year old guy.)
But today two thugs were sentenced to 7 years at least for shooting a taxi driver and killing two drug dealers
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October 5, 2018 3:59pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Killing two drug dealers is ok with me. Chopper Read did it and the cops turned a blind eye.
  Fuck drug dealers
  
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  October 5, 2018 5:36pm
DigNap15

Sorry one of the guys was sentenced for life (min 20 Years) for brutally killing two drug dealers.

You see Andrew, if your government keeps breeding such nice people, you will need to keep locking them up to keep us safe
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October 5, 2018 4:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  I would have reduced their sentence by a week for every drug dealer they killed.
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:02pm
DigNap15

Wow – And Another One Andrew
This time a gang member shot a fellow gang member.
He was sentenced to a minimum of 15 years!
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October 5, 2018 4:08pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And the name has been released of the murderer of a young woman in a Rotorua school ground.
  He’s one of the specials.
  What a surprise.
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:32pm
- starboard
  
  Phooo bro.! Anudder one..
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107639181/police-hunt-dangerous-mongrel-mob-member
  
  And anudder..
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107626139/brutal-assault-follows-unwanted-touching-at-new-plymouth-night-club
  
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  October 5, 2018 4:37pm
starboard

An endless flow of specials..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107625474/man-who-robbed-pair-at-gunpoint-and-led-police-on-highspeed-chase-was-entrenched-in-gang-lifestyle

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107603016/bottle-of-whiskey-and-bunch-of-2-coins-stolen-from-auckland-bar

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107622361/school-murder-accused-named
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October 5, 2018 4:46pm
Fletch

Humorous video – but it’s almost true –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECqrt9p5SA
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October 5, 2018 4:54pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Almost true. But I want to see a counter video made where the Firefighter punches that shithead reporter out – and then goes back to fight the fire.
  Both videos would show up CNN and the fake shit they do
  
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  October 5, 2018 5:33pm
Niz

Just heard on the radio that there will be a review of the decision by Jan Thomas to stop DB speaking at the uni.
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October 5, 2018 5:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hope it’s not a whitewash…
  
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  October 5, 2018 5:35pm
  - Niz
    
    Cross fingers. They did give the name of the guy in charge, but I didn’t catch it. Doug somebody?
    
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    October 5, 2018 5:48pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Douglas Martin – former Deputy State Services Commissioner
      
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      October 5, 2018 6:10pm
      - Niz
        
        Is that good?
        
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        October 5, 2018 6:17pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy will be following developments with interest: hundreds of goats airlifted from national park after developing taste for human urine
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October 5, 2018 5:05pm
- starboard
  
  Snigger..
  
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  October 5, 2018 5:10pm
  - stigie
    
    Is that why he likes a good rimming from his goats..?
    
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    October 5, 2018 6:13pm
    - nasska
      
      In Mt Roskill they follow the ancient ME custom of a woman for work, a boy for pleasure & a goat for ecstasy stigie. 🙂
      
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      October 5, 2018 6:26pm
sooty

Kevin Bloody Wilson song says they would suck the marrow of the bone. Song about a country boy up before the beak and discussing their sex lives!
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October 5, 2018 5:48pm
Happychappy

It seems Clayton Mitchell did not look at his own past before drafting a Bill for Refugees and Immigrants wanting them to adhere to NZ values or don’t come for NZ First, maybe he should be taking stock of his own values before condemning others. A great read for those interested on stuff.
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October 5, 2018 5:53pm
starboard

Ouch…. .64 today, 3.50 a litre ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/107637408/new-zealand-dollar-heading-to-gfc-lows-by-end-of-the-year-anz-says

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/107629405/government-points-to-rising-margins-as-petrol-closes-in-on-250-in-main-centres
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October 5, 2018 5:59pm
Inandout

Is this where Darren lived with the landlady, and where he frightened a lad so much the latter’s pants fell off?

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/107594294/Dame-Annette-King-tipped-for-diplomatic-posting-puts-her-Wellington-home-on-the-market
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October 5, 2018 6:23pm
- nasska
  
  I’ve heard that the residence is haunted by the ghost of a naked boy who appears spread over a medicine ball on random occasions.
  
  It’ll probably fetch a premium. 🙂
  
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  October 5, 2018 6:33pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Be careful, nasska. starboard, might be reading this and get overexcited again
    
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    October 5, 2018 6:37pm
    - starboard
      
      Off to men friends tonight MM ?
      Rumour has it they have installed a sling for you and you’re grubby sexual perversions. Don’t be late now.
      
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      October 5, 2018 7:24pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Still having trouble with those apostrophes, I see.
        
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        October 5, 2018 7:30pm
      - nasska
        
        It’s an Apostrophe:
        
        So, first, is it plural? Such as:
        
        Their backsides jiggled in the air.
        or
        Her lashes fluttered near her cheek.
        
        If so, no need to add an apostrophe.
        
        Now, is it possessive? Are you relating that the noun in question owns something? If so, use an apostrophe plus the letter s:
        
        . . . the hooker’s charm . . .
        
        . . . her cunt’s disposition . . .
        
        . . . her ass’s sway . . .
        
        . . . Chris’s lacy panties . .
        
        https://thesexygrammarian.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/its-an-apostrophe/
        
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        October 5, 2018 7:43pm
      - starboard
        
        Good spotting..sticky will be along soon to blow on about it, after he as beaten his defacto missus of course.
        
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        October 5, 2018 8:00pm
      - starboard
        
        “starboard, might be reading this…”
        
        Must be catching.
        
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        October 5, 2018 8:06pm
Niz

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12137558
Selling houses $100k below market value.
That means we’re effectively giving the owners $100,000 doesn’t it? Or that some builders are doing themselves out of $100k/house. Why would they continue to do that?
Where can I sign up?
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October 5, 2018 7:23pm
- Niz
  
  It’s just occurred to me. The govt. aren’t subsidising the cost of the things to the tune of $100k are they? i.e. selling them for $650k but paying the developer $750k. Christ, I hope not.
  Is the developer putting the houses on the market himself, or the govt?
  
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  October 6, 2018 5:50pm
Fletch

Look at this bullshit from Soros-funded moveon.org.

Escalate pressure on key senators, especially Susan Collins. Collins is the key swing vote in this process, and MoveOn is continuing to lift up stories from her constituents, support direct actions in Maine, and purchase ads in her state calling for her to stand with survivors, defend reproductive rights, and stop Kavanaugh.

Hold Republicans accountable. We will not forget their party’s actions at last week’s hearing, their unwavering support for Kavanaugh, and their attempts to discredit Dr. Blasey Ford and others when we head to the ballot box in five weeks. Ending GOP control of Congress and electing people who believe survivors. We will end GOP control of Congress and elect people who believe survivors and listen to women—because the fight for our fundamental rights is essential.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/04/soros-funded-moveon-org-threatens-direct-action-in-d-c-announces-emergency-campaign-to-stop-brett-kavanaugh/

I can’t even put into words the disdain I hold for these people. I think they would commit suicide if it helped destroy Kavanaugh.
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October 5, 2018 7:35pm
- MrTips
  
  They’re scared Fletch. They are losing and they don’t like it.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:16pm
MrTips

Soy boy Trudeau has been shown up as a supporter of violence on woman. Pro life demonstrator behaving peacefully got round house kicked by a dickhead (with form) who subsequently lost his job.
Trudeau doesn’t condemn the violence: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/justin-trudeau-refuses-to-condemn-attack-on-pro-life-woman-roundhouse-kicke

The idiot known as Trudeau just keeps sinking lower.
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October 5, 2018 8:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Lee Myung-bak, S Korea ex-president, jailed for 15 years
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45756561
This Guy was Mayor of Seoul and really transformed the city.

This is the 4th ex-President of South Korea to be Jailed.

(funny place to do politics – Too much love between big business and the top job)
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October 5, 2018 8:22pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Transform a city – go to jail.
  Fuck up a city – Goofy will be safe.
  
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  October 5, 2018 8:47pm
starboard

This is great ! Never heard of the blog before.

https://thekiwifirewalker.blogspot.com/2018/10/to-accidental-princess-exploring-rise.html
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October 5, 2018 8:42pm
- nasska
  
  He’s a frustrated comrade of the revolution but he’s intelligent & has the ability of reflection & self criticism seldom found amongst the Left.
  
  I’ve added it to bookmarks.
  
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  October 5, 2018 9:18pm
Philview

Reading various business articles this evening. House prices dropping all across the country and people feeling poorer. Big drop in NZ $ and forecast to drop to levels not seen since the GFC and prices on the rise. Petrol at record high. Biggest August trade deficit in history. Workers going on strike. Dairy prices drop.
This is very concerning and the Government is missing in action and the media are more worried about how many times Simon Bridges used the word “embarrassing”.
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October 5, 2018 9:51pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes and you could have added new car sales down for the first time for a long time.
  
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  October 6, 2018 6:09am
Tall Man

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137457

What a highly intellectual rag the NZ Herald are. They must be because I haven’t got a fucking clue about what this is supposed to show in NZ.

Although a couple of the regular lefty twits that post on here may feel some connection with their muslim brotherhood. Shame it wasn’t a goat he was pretending to marry. Now that would have gotten them in anticipatory lather
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