General Debate 3 October 2018

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Captain Mainwaring

I’ve defended Simon Bridges through thick and thin because I thought there was nobody better for the job and the CoL was busy tearing themselves apart without any need for help from the opposition.
But yesterday I went right off him when he stumbled and mumbled and then suggested that there was something ‘embarrassing’ about Jami-Lee Ross’s illness.
At a time when Jami-Lee is in a very difficult space this is the last thing the poor bugger needs.
Bridges has proved himself un-Prime Ministerial. The rest of his caucus would have had their heads in their hands and I can hear Judith out in the back shed sharpening the knives.
He must go, and soon.
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October 3, 2018 8:01am
- Poppa
  
  I have heard a rumble that he will be rolled prior to Xmas but that may not be true.
  
  He is unfortunately proving me right about him
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:03am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Not to support Collins but he is weak. Or nice. Nice is also bad in politics. You don’t want to be too nice.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:27am
    - Jazzby
      
      Quite so. You also have to be quick on your feet, and Simon Bridges just hasn’t got that natural sharpness.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:51am
    - oldgolfer
      
      Agree. I had high hopes he would improve. I think he’s bright and capable, and he is trying, but he has no killer punch. Dare I say it, he’s too nice.
      Winston should be careful what he wishes for.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:14am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        This is what one gets when one elects a leader for their race, age or gender, instead of their capability.
        
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        October 3, 2018 2:58pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I don’t know about nice so much, but stupid seems to be working at the moment so who knows what the magic factor is at any one time.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:45am
- cmm
  
  I don’t think anyone sees him as PM material.
  
  He’s more like the caretaker of a holiday park during the winter months.
  
  National are having a wee rest after 9 pretty hard years with the GFC and earthquakes and all the fix ups after Auntie Helen. They don’t need top shelf management at the moment just someone who sweeps the floor, turns off the lights and keeps the possums from shitting in the water tank.
  
  In about a year from now they can start preparing for 2020. Bye Simon, excellent job pruning the roses.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:07am
  - ancient one
    
    Caretaker of a holiday camp keeping the possums from shiting in the rain tank.
    Nice turn of phrase.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:31am
  - dime
    
    agree 100%
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:36am
  - Jules99
    
    To quote Sun Tsu, never stop your enemy when he/she is making a mistake.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:45am
  - Komata
    
    Cmm
    
    The problem is that he may not have until 2020. The way the COL is going there could be an election next month, or…
    
    Simon hasn’t got that luxury!
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:52am
- Inandout
  
  Yep. This smells of the way Cindy operates, evasive and blundering. Piss off Simon before you damage the party beyond redemption.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:14am
  - NewInoffensiveName
    
    If I was a criminal, I would want him as my prosecutor.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:15am
    - stephen2d
      
      If he was a prosecutor, he’d be living a life of crime.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:39am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        Thay doesn’t make sense. What are you trying to say exactly.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:12am
      - stephen2d
        
        @Padriv: that he is shit at his job and he would have to resort to stealing to feed himself, as he couldn’t earn the coin doing his day job.
        
        Taken from Van Morrison “if silence was golden, you’d be living the life of crime”.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:32am
    - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
      
      I didnt rate him when I understood his role in the previous efforts against the killer of Blessie Gotingco, how simple Simon didnt realise that the kiddie fiddler didnt deserve longer in the clink is beyond me.
      
      https://assets.stuff.co.nz/interactives/gotingco-trial/
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:42am
      - Viking2
        
        Well he did but the Judge didn’t think so.
        So go do your homework instead of displaying your ignorance.
        
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        October 3, 2018 12:36pm
- Chris R
  
  He is proving himself to be as ineffectual as Andrew Little, but in defence of Little he exposed his ability to get angry…the self-exposure of Bridges is that of a bumbler and a ham-fisted manager of people. He has to go as leader as soon as possible to allow the Nats to re-build. I think he may well make an adequate Cabinet Minister and good luck to him in that pursuit.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:15am
  - fylde
    
    I agree and this was a big mistake over JLT. Bridges has to go but Collins would be worse though.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:14am
- waikatogirl
  
  I’m afraid I agree Captain, Simon’s use of the word embarrassing regarding JLR’s illness, despite being asked to keep it private by JLR, was unforgiveable. A serious breach.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:15am
  - NewInoffensiveName
    
    Very serious. I heard that on the radio and couldn’t help myself from immediately began to wonder what the hell he was alluding to? Some horrible butt disease? Some chronic smelly thing? I really feel for JLR as he is going to be tarred with nothing more than reflexive speculation from this blunder.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:17am
    - Inandout
      
      Here are some embarrassing diseases:
      
      https://www.health24.com/Lifestyle/Man/Your-health/10-embarrassing-conditions-20120721
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:17am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Socialism is not on your list, why not?
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:26am
  - flipper
    
    Rubbish.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:31am
- brett68
  
  Bridges makes Ardern look top shelf, he’s that bad.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:16am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    I would not go as far as “top shelf”.
    You don’t want to tongue Jacinda’s sphincter too hard. Just pick the sides a bit and say “good”. Then you won’t be accused of hyperbole or gross metaphors.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:02pm
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  What is Capt. M getting downvotes? This comment is only speaking truth! There is no counterfactual argument here!
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:24am
  - brett68
    
    Tribal voting.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:30am
    - Chris R
      
      brett68: You are correct. There are frequent instances here of blind “tribal voting.” The reeds bend low beneath the breezes of sentiment.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:45am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Bridges has proved himself un-Prime Ministerial.
    
    Technically, that is opinion rather than ‘truth’. I haven’t up or down ticked because there are some things Capt said that I agree with and others I don’t.
    
    For me Bridges has been inconsistent. Some good performances, and others quite poor. I agree he’ll need to lift his game considerably if he’s to lead our country.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:50am
    - brett68
      
      Do you think he has the ability to lift his game?
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:55am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Unsure. A good leader helps liberate the combined strengths in his/her team and National have plenty of depth (relative to the shambolic Government).
        
        Collins has mongrel which can be harnessed. Bishop is smart, and hard working. Smith (and I’m still getting over his ETS treasury) is articulate, speaking amazingly well against the waka bill. Adams & Wong are solid performers.
        
        So can he harness all this talent, or will he be overtaken by it?
        
        I really don’t know.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:18am
- KevOB
  
  If you want the COL by default don’t support the Opposition.
  
  Time to join the National Party to rise up against this COL. There one can say what you like without giving comfort to the enemy. We are now battling a dishonest bullying govt backed up by idolising media. They are an economic disaster and we must aim to remove them. We don’t have to like the present National Party Leader but we need to be seen to dislike the COL visibly more.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:33am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I’ve been very critical of the ‘Opposition’ and Soimun for a long time now – but I have to agree that you make a good point.
    
    A National led government might fluff around and Bridges would probably obfuscate in that ineffectual squinty way that he has…. but at least they wouldn’t actually work towards actively destroying our country. Would they? I mean… they wouldn’t be as bad, surely?
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:21am
  - Komata
    
    Kev
    
    But WHAT do the Nats actually stand for now?
    
    Given Simon’s very evident ‘sympathy’ for CoL policies who can now know?
    
    It certainly isn’t what the original ‘Founding Statement’ says.
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:17pm
    - KevOB
      
      They don’t stand for the incompetent, cheating COL.
      
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      October 3, 2018 3:21pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    For goodness sake do you want him to speak against past National policies? Then we would get the ridiculous position like when Labour voted against a change of flag.
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:51pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I think he’s the ideal leader for a party that doesn’t know what it stands for (other than getting elected).
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:35am
- niggly
  
  Mark Mitchell on ZB Breakfast just now (panelist with Labour’s Stuart Nash) reckoned that comment was made in relation to politicians lives being public and because their lives are not private and plastered all over the media it could be “embarrassing” for JLR (or anyone for that matter) to have to explain to the whole of NZ that they are taking leave to deal with personal matters.
  
  Mitchell said that JLR is a very proud person who wouldn’t like to be sharing his personal situation with “everyone” etc.
  
  Whilst perhaps Bridges could have avoided using that term, in the context of what Mitchell is saying it does kind of make some sort of sense.
  
  Some of you guys are doing not only a dis-service to Bridges (by “doing a WO” and looking for every opportunity to criticise him), but you are also doing a dis-service to JLR by keeping his personal issues in the spotlight. It was bad enough seeing the NZH doing that last night by making this issue seem greater than it is (and alluding to JLR being the leaker at the same time)!
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:43am
  - Nookin
    
    So, Bridges let slip an adjective the contextual meaning of which has confused absolutely everyone because they have no idea what he was actually alluding to and the world is coming to an end as far as his leadership is concerned.
    
    On the other hand, the Prime Minister is perplexed by the acronym “GDP” when asked, fudges an answer to hide her ignorance, later says that she thought she was being asked about Crown Accounts which were not even due and then, in parliament, again misleads by accusing the interviewer of asking the wrong question to her answer and this is just a minor slip but who cares, the photographers are out in force!
    As RWC points out, maybe some people, Duncan Garner in particular, might be wise to get their priorities right.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:24am
    - RF
      
      Bloody hell. Talkback is all over what Bridges said about Ross. Thank you Simon but the topic should be Ardern.
      
      This is giving Ardern a break and she will be laughing her teeth off having dodged a bullet and not having to explain her continual untruths.
      
      I hope Simon is not another Bill Rowling.
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:03am
  - fylde
    
    Niggly you are defending the indefensible. The “embarrassing” term was clearly a dig and inappropriate.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:18am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “that there was something ‘embarrassing’ about Jami-Lee Ross’s illness”
  That’s it????
  This govt. is
  screwing up the economy
  Raising unemployment
  Growth is falling
  Taxing us to hell and gone
  corruptly handing money to their friends
  Not achieving ANY of their stated goals
  Lying EVERY day
  ETC
  And you are worried about ONE word in a statement in answer to a media question.
  No wonder they use detraction (squirrels) as a tactic.
  Because, by this reaction, it works.
  Keep your eye on what REALLY matters
  Performance of those in power, that impacts our lives.
  Simon Bridges mis spoke, SO FUCKING WHAT, he is leader of the OPPOSITION , he has NO power to impact anything.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:51am
  - MCos
    
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    He threw his mate under the bus
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:05am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      What bus????
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:07am
      - MCos
        
        He said his mate had an ‘embarrassing illness’ and immediately tried to walk it back. Too late.
        The problem is not that Mr Ross is unwell, but that Bridges considers it embarrassing.
        
        So I suppose he threw himself under the bus. Nor is this his first faux pas. National leaders don’t do fauses pas.
        
        As for the Government’s perceived mishandling of their job. Any competent Opposition Leader would be expected to hammer away at those weaknesses, and that doesn’t necessarily need to be the current incumbent.
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:23am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        fuck off; said in a caring way
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:42am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        MCos
        Again….what bus???
        It was, I agree a Faux pas……a mis speak
        It was not the destruction of an economy, as what our govt. is doing DELIBERATELY.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:09am
  - kloyd0306
    
    No power to effect policy but he has the power to oppose the CoL, but his efforts have been wishy-washy at best and somewhat weak at worst.
    
    Who does National have with a spine and who is quick to respond to this disaster of a government?
    
    The material the opposition has is plentiful.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:21am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      NEVER get in the way of your enemy, when they are making a mistake.
      This CoL is making so many “mistakes” It’s difficult to get out of their way.
      Simon doesn’t have to say anything, do anything, they are so obvious in their screw ups, corruption and violent behaviour. That even with the cover up services of the MSM propaganda machine, people are noticing.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:14am
      - Dave Mann
        
        NEVER get in the way of your enemy, when they are making a mistake.
        
        I’ve seen this written many times here about the Peters appointed government and I know it sounds cute and clever, but its not the way for a competent opposition party to behave in a Westminster democracy.
        
        Bear in mind that ‘making mistakes’ in this case means actually destroying a country’s industries, its social cohesion and its foreign relations.
        
        This is not a time to be cute. This is a time when coherent and well-structured opposition is needed in order to communicate to the silent majority that there is hope and a plan to get this country out of the shit that Adern & Co are creating.
        
        So far, nothing like this has been articulated by this utterly useless man.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:37am
  - KevOB
    
    Could Simon Bridges not mis-speak with such rabid media interpreting his every syllable to report his inflections according to their opinionated hearing?
    He’s lucky if he is allowed any media coverage at all.
    
    The media are out of control they have crossed the ford. Anything about the Opposition is only given as a diversion.
    This COL and sympathisers are getting more dangerous by the hour.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:55am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      It’s called
      P R O P A G A N D A ……
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:46pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    RW, I think most of us are looking for a National leader who won’t mis-speak so clumsily.
    
    You’re right, of course, that CoL’s mis-doings should be in the public eye instead, but we know that the media are biased. Thus National needs a very skilled leader.
    
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    October 3, 2018 3:14pm
- Woz
  
  Ever since Bill left I’ve had the feeling that the most effective weapon the COL has in its 2020 re-election arsenal is Simon Bridges. I think he’s a good guy, with his heart in the right place, but he’s tits as a possible PM. But then, a year ago I was saying the same thing about Toothy…
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:07am
- Justitia
  
  National have a duty to the country to replace him as soon as possible. We need a viable alternative to the three headed hydra. Loyalty to the leader is all very well but outside some black swan event Bridges will never be PM, he is simply not up to the role.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:22am
- artemisia
  
  What say the word was used deliberately? Would that be mongrel enough?
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:22am
- radvad
  
  Totally agree Captain. I could not believe his ineptness. And as for that jarring comment about it being “embarrassing”…….yikes.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:44pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  But the party faithful don’t want a winner! They want a suitably progressive leader who won’t challenge the status quo. The National party is in what is looking like terminal decline – can anyone seriously watch simple Soimon in action and say with any honesty – “he is the best we’ve got”.
  
  He thinks it’s an insult to call the SLG “Trumplike”, I’d take Trump every day of the week and the booming economy he’s delivered over anyone ANYONE currently in Pariliament.
  
  Soimon is the Cunliffe appointment.
  
  The answer is an unpalatable (to the dead wood) clean out of the mediocre dead wood in National. Only one person will do that and all the dead wood ain’t going to vote for her.
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:26pm
holysheet

Yesterday, the ministry of health suggested that men should take a look at their beer consumption. They had just got the results of a study that revealed the presence of female hormones in beer. The theory is that drinking beer makes men turn into women. To test the finding, 100 men were fed 8 pints of beer each. It was then observed that 100% of the men gained weight, talked excessively without making sense, became overly emotional, couldn’t drive, failed to think rationally, argued over nothing, and refused to apologise when wrong. In the best interest of equality between the sexes, no further action will be taken.
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October 3, 2018 8:03am
- VicParking
  
  Further to that research it was found that if these women’isd men drank enough beer not only did they turn into women they morphed into lesbians. 83% of these turned/drunk men, apon leaving their drinking environment, went looking for women to have sexual relations with.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:59am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Ha ha… You make joke.
  Woman is like very drunk man.
  Nice!
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:35pm
  - holysheet
    
    The drunker they get, the nicer they are?
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:40pm
rightoverlabour

Men, be careful. Don’t stand near the punch bowl, don’t huddle near doors at parties or the bitches from the #metoo/ #wetoo coven will accuse you of being a rapist…

Read this and weep….

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kavanaugh-accuser-swetnick-faces-credibility-questions-amid-changing-story-details-from-past

and on a similar note… this

https://www.foxnews.com/us/dentists-accused-in-las-vegas-resort-rape-case-have-charges-against-them-dropped

Why, when rape is such a terrible crime, have some women decided to damage their own cause with this kind of crap. Real victims will suffer now as more and more will doubt the veracity of the claims. Very sad actually.
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October 3, 2018 8:06am
- cmm
  
  Why?
  
  Coz the Kavanaugh merry-go-round has nothing to do with rape and everything to do with the global onslaught of leftie insanity. If a few real rape victims get sacrificed on the alter, well, then you aren’t thinking big picture enough!
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:11am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Rape is never about sex. It is always about power.
    False rape allegations are about certain women searching for power.
    It is always. about. power.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:29pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, the #metoo movement had credibility for a while but now is being weaponized to attack white men (as though the colour of your skin has anything to do with it). The ACLU has even produced a $1 million attack ad comparing Kavanaugh with the two Bills (Cosby and Clinton), even though there’s nothing to compare.
  
  The great irony is that most of the sexual offenders targeted in #metoo have been left-wing liberals in Hollywood, media personalities, and the like. They are reaping now what they sowed with the hippy free love of the 60s, the Pill, and abortion.
  
  ps, see the liberal song-and-dance when Steven Crowder does a “Change My Mind” stall outside campus with the subject of campus rape culture being a myth (30 second preview) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCRxLzPtZ0
  
  They just EXPLODE! lol
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:12am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Im just back from a couple of weeks in the US. One of my Uber rides was listening to Fox News, and came out with the interesting “fact” (a study had been undertaken apparently) that Soros has contributed $USD 25oM (yes, million) to groups who seek to oppose Trump / Kavanaugh.
    
    No idea if its true, and even if its 10% of that, wholly fuck. That kind of money buys a lot of vocal opposition.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:18am
    - cmm
      
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-must-be-doing-something-right-billionaire-george-soros-faces-renewed-attacks-with-defiance/2018/06/09/3ba0e2b0-6825-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.a4ffd49b6bdb
      
      “Soros, who plans to spend at least $15 million in 2018 races”
      
      “In the United States, the Open Society spends $150 million a year financing groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and Planned Parenthood.”
      
      “In 2016, he poured at least $25 million into mobilizing Democratic voters in an effort to bolster Clinton and other candidates on the left, a Soros spokesman said.”
      
      He’s not interested in any form of democracy except the kind he can buy.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:50am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Perhaps he should run and have his feet held to the fire?
        
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        October 3, 2018 8:08pm
    - Jules99
      
      It crossed my mind that despite the large drain on his finances, it’s not working very well. In which case, Trump would be wise to allow him to keep on spending. Maybe there’s a plan.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:49am
- G152
  
  Its womens ultimate weapon against men.
  For some long forgotten something a woman can get revenge by claiming rape or sexual assault and the man is gone.
  There is no way he can prove that such did not happen..
  And the feminazis want us to believe the sisterhood never lies about such things…..
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:16am
  - igm
    
    Womanhood has been sold out by Gnashers and continuous lying, along with her band of vile socialist females.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:30am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      A cabal.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:10pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        A coven
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:52pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yeh, and if you can weaponize some half-remembered memory of something that happened when everyone was a young and stupid teen in high school and have it held against you now. Nobody would be safe…
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:31am
    - Brian Marshall
      
      Well I’m glad I’m not a lawyer looking to be a judge in the USA. The shit I got up to in my teens and early twenties would horrify the democrat senators. Mind you, they liked Bill Clinton and were happy enough to run the women he attacked down, so maybe it’s more the sort of person. (As if we didn’t already know).
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:29am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I think it’s more about hiding stuff.
        If you stand up and admit to being a shit in your twenties and can show you have seen the light, you’re not likely to get as hammered (pardon the pun) later on.
        Kavanaugh is presented as a goody two-shoes (and IMO probably is) but the Democrat destroyers are painting him as a dishonest closet deviant who humiliates women for his own gratification.
        
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        October 3, 2018 12:35pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Including the women.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:10pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Why have some have some women decided to damage their own cause
  
  This piece of bullshit was what you were so hyped up for that you couldn’t remember what time the GD thread goes up?
  You really think that all women have a ’cause’ that is somehow damaged by charges being dropped in one case of alleged rape?
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:09pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Hi, sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I hope you are not offended. However, what part of the piece is “bullshit”?
    
    I’ll quote the bits that concern me here:
    
    While she said in her statement she became aware of “efforts” by Kavanaugh to spike the punch, she said in the interview she was unclear about what Kavanaugh was actually doing.
    
    “Well I saw—I saw him giving red solo cups to quite a few girls during that time frame, and there was grain punch at those parties,” she said. “I saw him around the punch—I won’t say bowls, the punch containers. I don’t know what he did, but I saw him by them.”
    
    Definitely guilty .. of standing next to the punch for too long ergo – Rapist
    
    And
    
    As for the claim about “trains” of boys lining up outside rooms to rape girls, she said in the interview she saw boys including Kavanaugh and Judge “huddled by doors.” Asked if she was suggesting she thought Kavanaugh was involved, she answered: “I would say yes, it’s just too coincidental.” She did not offer further details to support the claim he was waiting his “turn.”
    
    She also clarified that while she saw Kavanaugh and Judge at the party and where other boys were gathered, she “cannot specifically say that he was one of the ones who assaulted me” — her original statement did not specifically accuse them of assaulting her, either.
    
    Your call….
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:23pm
    - Longknives
      
      Buy a Girl a drink at a Bar and you are a rapist.
      My friend, who was the Victim of a fabricated complaint, was grilled for hours by a Detective regarding ‘how often’ he bought drinks for girls at bars etc
      Chilling.
      I’m just glad my young,single days are behind me…
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:11pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Not all women, but I will put my hand up and say that I think the ’cause’ is damaged.
    
    If the ’cause’ is being taken seriously when wanting to take legal action after an assault. Then yes, false complaints make it harder for other women to be taken seriously.
    
    I have tipped the odd drink on the odd man to give them a wake up call, usually in public. Laughter works too.
    
    If the sex is no good, one should always be able to complain of course, even if falsely.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:17pm
sooty

Communist Cindy came home and started straight away ducking, diving and plain outright lying!!!
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October 3, 2018 8:06am
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Generally speaking, Western males don’t like Muslim women, so when Muslim women and girls wear the hijab for “protection from men” in Western countries, you have to wonder who they are hiding from.
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October 3, 2018 8:08am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I don’t think that they have a choice.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:11am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Well some of them say that they do, some of them are possibly attention seeking, wanting to stand out.
    
    Th bulk in my opinion are indoctrinated into it.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:26am
    - igm
      
      That clothing must be helpful for shoplifting . . . who would dare attempt searching a walking wardrobe, HRC would have the culprit drawn and quartered, along with 90% of our judiciary.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:33am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I have seen video of such shoplifting.
        
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        October 3, 2018 8:19pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It’s a combination of several factors.
      – Cultural identification through clothing
      – Indoctrination
      – Habit
      – Fear of ostracism and character assassination from female family members (and the extended family and community)
      – Fear of violence from male family members
      – Possible attention-seeking
      – Possible superiority complex (over the infidels)
      The list goes on.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:04am
      - Dave Mann
        
        You always make a lot of sense Odakyu-sen.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:59am
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Maybe they can resurrect NZ Post
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:04am
  - sooty
    
    Stand one on every street corner. You reckon?
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:02am
- dubya
  
  Protection from the leers of Stephieboy at St Luke’s?
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:06am
Im Right

OK, taking bets on the FBI Investigation into Kavenaugh and Democrat tactics, Odd are:
No new Info gathered by FBI : 1/2
New accuser comes forward with allegations: 1/3
Dems claim FBI whitewash to no new info: 1/9
Dems want further delay on house vote: 1/10

Roll up….roll up, place your bets!
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October 3, 2018 8:13am
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  I will bet this week’s pay that Kavanaugh is confirmed this week.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:14am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I bloody hope so. And then see the Democrats go ballistic. The more I read about this case the more I believe Kavanaugh is clean, and the more I think the Democrats are the most corrupt politicians around. They make Silly Little Cindy quite saint-like. SLC is more bumbling stupid than viciously conniving. (That accolade goes the Supreme Cunt of New Zealand politics Winston Peters)
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:22am
    - VicParking
      
      I bet if you looked back at both Cindy and JK’s high school and university days you would find some sort of activity which could be beaten up to a level that would make it impossible for them to have been elected.
      Christ the things I did a HS and Varsity would turn Senator Dianne Feinstein‘s hair grey (again).
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:11am
      - MCos
        
        Wasn’t she a Mormon back then?
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:38am
      - VicParking
        
        Yes I heard she went to parties laid on her back and said over and over “more Men”
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:54am
      - RF
        
        VicParking.
        
        Now that was funny. More men… My first laugh of the day…
        
        Cheers..
        
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        October 3, 2018 2:48pm
    - Komata
      
      And when Mr Kavanagh IS confirmed, expect riots and general destruction by the ‘usual (paid) suspects’ to follow; the Dems have form in such matters.
      
      What they don’t seem to realise is that they are definitely NOT helping their cause, and are, if anything, making it worse…
      
      The MSM will, of course, spin it in the usual way.
      
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      October 3, 2018 2:32pm
    - wreck1080
      
      At first, I thought it was just a case of “he says she says”.
      
      But as time goes on, there are just too many classmates coming out about the shenanigans that went on.
      
      He has lied about his drinking. The guy was clearly a party animal and has lied about it. Too many people coming out.
      
      As for the rape thing, who knows if that is true. But he has tried to cover up his wild days. Probably should have fessed up rather than tried to hide that. Now he is a liar which is worse than a party animal .
      
      There is no way they can prove the rape thing. But the drinking and lying seems factual.
      
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      October 3, 2018 5:20pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        The trouble is you are believing what the Democrat spin is.
        
        To put it simply Kavanaugh did not claim not to drink, he has in fact admitted that he drank quite a lot of beer, what he did claim was that he never had drunken blackouts or passed out from drinking. That was an allegation made about him which he denied. He did say that he drank and sometimes would fall asleep as a result. That is different than drunken blackouts.
        
        So no lying about what he did as a student about 35 years ago. Read his testimony instead of relying on the Democrat journolistas.
        
        What is far more interesting is the pretty clear evidence that Ford is a blatant liar and has been coached by her lawyers to perjure herself. She said under oath that she had never coached or trained or assisted anyone with a polygraph test before. The Senate committee has a letter from an ex boyfriend in the 1990’s who says she did exactly that with a named friend. That named friend is now an FBI agent and is also believed to have given evidence.
        
        Plus the evidence about the second front door being the trigger for the remembrance about Kavanaugh. Said to be 2012, but the permit was 2008 and would lapse after 180 days – and the second door was for a separate business being run at the address.
        
        Prof Ford and your lawyers, get ready for the perjury shit train. Senator Feinstein, what will you do if Ford turns states evidence and implicates you and your colleagues in the perversion of justice and perjury ?
        
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        October 3, 2018 5:45pm
- Inandout
  
  Ruby Lips is getting Bolshie now Mark is away, and was chortling about a new accusation against Trump.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:18am
  - geoff3012
    
    Bring back Paul Henry for fucks sake. She is a silly little girl just like her best buddy “my little pony”.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:25am
  - RF
    
    Ole ruby lips applies her Botox top ups with a bike pump….
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:51pm
- Fletch
  
  Diane Feinstein has already come out and said that she doesn’t want the results of the FBI investigation made public, according to CNN reporter Elizabeth Landers.
  
  .@SenFeinstein indicates that the FBI report on Kavanaugh should NOT be made public: “It would seem to me that if people are going to be identified this ought to be held very close and not.”
  
  “I think the investigation ought to be closely held,” she reiterated.
  
  – I wonder why? Perhaps it isn’t going to say what Democrats want it to say?
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:21am
  - KevOB
    
    The false accusers should be prosecuted.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:38am
    - artemisia
      
      If not prosecuted, at least have to pony up their share of the investigation costs.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:36am
    - VicParking
      
      Feinstein and Ford’s lawyers are being charged by the Bar Association.
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:56am
      - RF
        
        There are photos of Ford circulating on the internet that show her to be nothing but a drunken skank in her student days…
        
        Those must dent her credibility.
        
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        October 3, 2018 2:57pm
  - MCos
    
    It’s quite obvious why a woman or a man, for that matter, would not want their name publicly announced in association with this inquiry.
    Everybody involved thus far is getting death threats, no matter which side of the fence they sit.
    Then there’s the small matter of public ridicule by the loose lips President.
    From what I understand it’s a crime to lie to the FBI. That’s a pretty good incentive to provide truthful testimony, I’d have thought. Furthermore the FBI aren’t going to listen to any old nutter who wanders in off the street and claims the judge did them wrong.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:21am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Ford’s gofundme is already over $600K, mostly from large amounts from a few anonymous donors apparently. Looks like the Democrats are being a bit obvious about paying her off for the show.
      
      Ford’s no doubt been assured by the Democrats and others that they’ll cover for her, but now she’s being exposed as a perjurer, she deserves everything she’s going to get.
      
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      October 3, 2018 5:48pm
  - Komata
    
    Fenstein is trying to have a buck each way; yesterday yelling and screaming to have immediate access to the FBI report ‘as of right’, today backing-off rapidly and saying it should be kept secret.
    
    One has to wonder about the change of heart…
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:35pm
- Harkman
  
  7/8 every option
  
  The FBI will say there is not enough evidence of wrong doing. Dems will say it was rushed. More fake claims will come out and Senate Dems will call for a delay. Republicans should be worried about Flake, going by his name he has a long family history of unreliability.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:17am
  - MCos
    
    One week should be plenty of time for a thorough investigation in a situation of this magnitude in a civilized society.
    Is that right?
    It’s taken about six weeks for the Nats to find out who the mystery leaker is with no end in sight . . . . .
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:34am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      You will of course have similar attitudes to Jacinda’s inquiry regarding the Meka the Muss leak?
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:40am
      - MCos
        
        Meka Whaitiri was stood down on August 30. So that inquiry has been going almost as long as the Nat leaker one and a prelim report has been leaked.
        I don’t know why it should take so long, but my point is that these two inquiries, one by the Government & one by National are not completed in anything like the timeframe the one going on into Kavanagh.
        Seems to me that due diligence was not done on this character in the first place by Trump. Either that or the judge should have conceded he had a spotty past rather than denied everything.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:57am
      - sooty
        
        The sex camp pervert! Wooden we all like to know?
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:04am
      - MCos
        
        That would be ‘wouldn’t’.
        
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        October 3, 2018 12:26pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        MCos
        
        That would be ‘wouldn’t’.
        
        I think you meant to say: That Wood be ‘wouldn’t’. 🙂
        
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        October 3, 2018 4:43pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        MCos, Kavanaugh has admitted that his past was “spotty” if you consider drinking a lot of beer as an undergraduate is “spotty”.
        
        That’s all there is that is verified – he drank beer, sometimes a pretty fair amount. And that’s about it.
        
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        October 3, 2018 5:49pm
    - VicParking
      
      Its taken six week for the Lefties in the Public Service to produce the communication from the staff. Nothing to do with National.
      I understand all the MP’s communications have been checked and cleared.
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:59am
    - rangitoto
      
      The Nats in opposition have no power to conduct any kind of investigation of public servants or CoL MPs.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:24am
- MCos
  
  Maybe the guy will get confirmed, but it won’t be a particular popular decision.
  https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2574
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:41am
  - VicParking
    
    It would not matter if Kav… had walked to Washington down the middle of the Potomac as he cured all the illness in Washington as he went the Dem’s would still call him the devil.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:01am
    - alwyn
      
      Sounds about right.
      It reminds me of one of Lyndon Johnson’s complaints when the Washington Post were being particularly unkind to him.
      “If I walked across the Potomac this afternoon the frontpage story in the Post tomorrow would have a huge headline saying ‘President can’t swim’ “.
      Like him or hate him Lyndon had a wonderful way with words.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:24am
      - MCos
        
        The owner of the Washington Post at that time was Katharine Graham who took over when her husband died in 1963. Both were Democrats & close friends of Lyndon Johnson. LBJ & Graham drifted apart as his presidency went along.
        Later Richard Nixon loathed the Washington Post . . . . .
        
        Her autobiography is very interesting reading.
        
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        October 3, 2018 12:12pm
NewInoffensiveName

Attacks at Republican politician’s offices are on the rise in the USA. Ricin was sent to the Pentagon. Celebrities are on TV banging on Senator’s and Congressmen’s doors along with a gaggle of shouting leftists in violation of the law. Threats are rife on social media. Calls to violence are everywhere. The left is imploding in the USA and showing their true colours. The Democrats are finished. Red Wave 2018.
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October 3, 2018 8:13am
- RW Capitalist
  
  A dying animal, fights and thrashes the hardest….just before it’s death.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:04am
Sofia

While the media approach to Winston’s “immigrant and refugee declaration of acceptance and promise to adhere to New Zealand values” is so far about what those values might be, another consideration of this issue should tell us: What will constitute an offence, and what will Winston expect to happen to an offender?

Can you send a refugee back to where they came from, if they are here to avoid persecution or even threat of death?
Since it may be an unreasonable punishment – according to the very values they may have been asked to adhere to – will one offence doom them or will Winston also have a three strikes system to match our current values in treating the most serious of crimes?

If Winston new bill is to be considered at all, let him spell out exactly what he thinks the result should be … so that may be considered against what people think to be New Zealand values.
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October 3, 2018 8:14am
- Rachael Membery
  
  But a British born Iranian thinks that other cultures could be positive in curbing our boozie culture.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12135833
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:16am
  - Simon
    
    From the link
    
    “The assumption that newcomers are somehow less likely to hold core human values such as fairness, kindness and tolerance dehumanises them and reflects badly on our own values.”
    
    yet NZ has this now:
    
    New law will protect minors from forced marriage in New Zealand
    
    Dozens of teens are married in New Zealand each year and Shakti NZ, a community organisation which works with migrant and refugee women of Asian, African and Middle Eastern origin, says it sees the damage done by forced marriage.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12102855
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:26am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Not many of them to stale, pale, males.
      
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      October 3, 2018 1:15pm
  - VicParking
    
    Right on, only 42 people died, 100’s are hospitalised and 1,000’s sick from alcohol posioning in Iran in the last few weeks.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:17am
- cas
  
  Jan Thomas from Massey is not a NZ citizen. I wonder if she would comply with Winston’s NZ values?
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:15am
  - VicParking
    
    Gone by 4pm friday
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:07am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like to see all gang members subject to that test as well
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:20pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

Should a breathing sack of garbage like this be allowed to draw the same air as the rest of us?

Transgender sex offender, Jacinda Brooks, 41, pretended to be a *14-year-old teenage boy* so it could groom a 12yo schoolgirl for sex.

Jacinta, (also known as Duncan), had previously targeted children……having sex with a girl under 16 and sexually abusing another.

At least this horrible looking c**t was jailed for 11 years. In my book, *on appearances alone*, this sub-human sack of filth would have qualified for nine grams of lead into the base of the brain stem.

Just check out the state of this……

https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1046897306468069377
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October 3, 2018 8:16am
Hugh Pavletich

New Zealand and Australian housing markets … update …

… New Zealand …

Falling house prices spread across more of New Zealand | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/107542192/falling-house-prices-spread-across-more-of-new-zealand

Falling property prices are becoming a feature of more parts of the New Zealand housing market.

QV has reported a significant increase in the number of properties being listed for sale in September – but value growth remained modest.

Five of the 15 main centres reported a drop in values in the September quarter: Auckland, New Plymouth, Napier, Christchurch and Queenstown-Lakes. That’s up from four the month before and three in July. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Australia …

Australian house prices keep falling … Nine Com Au

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/10/01/16/37/australian-house-prices-keep-falling-property

A likely tighter lending environment following the banking royal commission is expected to drive property prices down even further, with national house values registering 12 months of consistent losses. … VIEW & READ More via hyperlink above …

MacroBusiness – Australian Property Shares Dollar Economy

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/
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October 3, 2018 8:24am
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPR0s2W-Ck&feature=share
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:28am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Comparing Australia’s housing correction to prior downturns … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia
    … behind paywall …
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/comparing-australias-housing-correction-prior-downturns/
    
    By Leith van Onselen
    
    With Australian dwelling values falling for 12 consecutive months, according to CoreLogic (see next chart), it’s an opportune time to compare the current housing correction to prior episodes. … read more via hyperlink above …
    .
    .
    I found this ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) programme of a year ago with Sir Ron Brierleys comments rather helpful …
    
    30 years on, Lessons of the 1987 share market crash with former PM Paul Keating (and others) … ABC The Business … 18 October 2017
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhiE_zXAxx8
    
    Sir Ron Brierley …
    
    Ron Brierley – Wikipedia
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Brierley
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:45am
- KevOB
  
  Jolly Joy Germ.
  Coming to a COL near you, the GFC:
  Known to cause home loss from interest rate rises.
  Known to cause civic unrest.
  Known to cause extra pay demands.
  Known to cause price rises.
  Known to cause a drop in tax receipts.
  Known to cause a drop in the dollar.
  Known to cause govts to fail.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:45am
  - Harkman
    
    We could be like East Asia circa 1995 or 1996.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:20am
krazykiwi

A death on Tongariro Alpine Crossing

His body was found by searchers this morning and there was a karakia on Mangatepopo Rd this afternoon.

A rāhui sets a temporary prohibition around the area where someone has died and limits access for that period.

The Department of Conservation explained it acknowledged the death and was a way to express sympathy to the whānau of the deceased; it ensured that safety mechanisms were in place; and provided time for tapu (sacredness) to dissipate following the death.

I’ve not previously heard of a rāhui. Given the tragic proportion of Maori children dying as a result of abuse I would have expect rāhui to be more commonly reported.
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October 3, 2018 8:26am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Often used if there has been a death in a harbour for example, there is a rahui on shellfish gathering or fishing, I assume for if some human content entered into the food chain.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:36am
  - greybeard
    
    I understand that prior to the arrival of Europeans in NZ there was quite a bit of human content in the food chain.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:47am
    - stephieboy
      
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      greybeard, not really!
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:10am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      and after the Europeans arrived.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:05am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Saw an article, a long time ago.
        That said,
        If the European had not come to NZ and brought Pigs, sheep and cattle.
        With expanding population and slow reproduction of the local protein sources.
        Maori would have starved to death inside, 100 yrs.
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:18am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Run if you hear yourself described as long pig? Wouldn’t have been much fat on Maori, in the day.
        
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        October 3, 2018 1:20pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I was thinking that. Whole areas of South Auckland would be no-go areas, permanently. Look I get all this cultural stuff, but FFS everytime someone dies on a mountain is no reason to stop people going there. If its an active crime scene under police jurisdiction maybe…
  
  And roads, hospitals, old age homes… Look death is unpleasant for the family, but life has to go on.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:40am
- srylands
  
  No I hadn’t heard of it either. I should make it clear that if I die tramping, a simple memorial service and a few wines will suffice.
  
  If the dead tamper was Maori then by all means this is appropriate. But if he was not, his family may not want all this.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He was an Indian tourist.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:54am
    - srylands
      
      Yeah well point made.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:04am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      If an Indian or other non-Maori, his family might consider the rāhui to be culturally insensitive.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:07am
      - Niz
        
        Maori don’t care about that. A rahui is a way that they can indicate to people who the mountain belongs to. When people comply with it, they’re tacitly agreeing with them.
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:15am
      - VicParking
        
        And they get koha to run the ‘whakaarahia te rahui’
        
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        October 3, 2018 11:10am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      If an Indian or other non-Maori, his family might consider the rāhui to be culturally insensitive.
      
      (Cut-and-paste to test the “comment in moderation” software.)
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Rahui seems to be a Polynesian concept (perhaps also applied in Melanesia?).
  It was used to establish control over resources and territory.
  >..hence today we could interpret it to have environmental and political functions…
  
  The Rahui : legal pluralism in Polynesian traditional management of resources and territories
  http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p337293/html/imprint.xhtml?referer=1708&page=3#
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Aha!
    So it’s political. (It’s all about power and ownership of things that convey mana.)
    
    Since bullying and violence against women and children doesn’t convey mana, no one in the Maori community wants to take ownership.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:23am
  - RF
    
    When did the term Rahui first become accepted.
    
    Think of the hundreds of Maori perhaps thousands slain by other Maori all over NZ. It was a blood bath.
    
    I have heard of returned servicemen who obtained farm blocks in undeveloped Govt land in Taranaki after WW2 and came across numerous old skeletons buried in unmarked graves. The condition of the bones indicated violent deaths.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:02am
- Niz
  
  “and provided time for tapu (sacredness) to dissipate following the death”.
  Umm, sacredness dissipates? Sacredness _can_ dissipate? Sacredness isn’t a physical thing (assuming it’s a thing at all).
  
  “it ensured that safety mechanisms were in place”
  Umm, no it doesn’t. _People_ ensure that safety mechanisms are in place.
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

Tuvalu Language Week continues…

Sipi kana!
choice/ awesome
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October 3, 2018 8:27am
Poppa

Interesting that the “views from the Boardroom” have rated Alf’s wife Robbo the most competent in the Government ahead of Cindy Kardashian.

Says it all really
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October 3, 2018 8:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  and to show “balance”, the NZ Herald runs a hit-job on Shane Jones at the same time.
  Shane Jones faces tough criticism as CEOs urge him to cut the bombast
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12135746
  
  You gotta laff
  NZ CEOs see Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern as standout performer
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12135830
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:43am
  - KevOB
    
    Shane is a rightfully a serious competitor.
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:59am
  - Harkman
    
    “”A banking boss says Ardern has been a far better Prime Minister than expected. “Labour inherited a country that had been neglected for nine years. She is an amazing communicator and front person for the Government.”
    
    ‘neglected for nine years.’ WTH? The last government completely rebuilt Christchurch and started on the Kaikoura region.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:24am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      We had a “rock star” economy, in the opinion of OTHERS that were languishing while we were growing, during the GFC
      Here we have other countries growing while we are fading, under comparatively (to the GFC) excellent international conditions and no natural disasters (yet, wouldn’t want to tempt fate).
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:05am
    - VicParking
      
      That could mean that they thought she would shit her pants three times a week but only does it twice
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:13am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Well that would be embarrassing.
        
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        October 3, 2018 8:41pm
    - sam green
      
      “Completely rebuilt Christchurch”? Been there lately?
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:38am
      - KevOB
        
        It’s a work in progress. More remains but an enormous amount has been achieved. They seem to have succeeded in getting the work done in order of importance. No one will ever agree on those priorities but at least decisions were made. Commercial realities may defer potential projects until developers can be sure about success. The future return of many people must still be doubtful. Rebuilding will still be underway 10 years hence.
        Christchurch just gets slowly better. It probably cannot go any faster.
        
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        October 3, 2018 12:04pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Maybe the council could help?
        Instead of spending $220mil of the $300mil the govt. gave them on a stadium.
        That’s like me taking $300 to the supermarket for groceries and buying $220 worth of ice cream.
        
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        October 3, 2018 5:54pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Or cry.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:56am
secondcumming

Robin: “Batman, the Batmobile won’t start”

Batman: “Have you checked the battery?”

Robin: “What’s a Tery?”
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October 3, 2018 8:28am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Robin played by….Robertson
  Batman played by….Ardern
  Translation:
  Battery, a euphemism for “good governance”.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:17am
Kabull

And so the re-writing and sanitisation of history continues:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/10/gisborne-captain-cook-statue-to-be-moved.html

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107552288/decision-to-relocate-gisbornes-captain-cook-statue-welcomed-by-local-iwi

I saw yesterday that there is a growing move to dual name every place and every street. Mark my words – in 20 years (or less) we will not know what country we live in. But then in 20 years it wont matter, because those of us old enough to remember how things once were will be gone.
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October 3, 2018 8:36am
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, it’s bullshit – “because iwi weren’t consulted”. FFS, do we need to consult the Maoris about everything? I’m sorry, but are they some kind of protected class such that everything must be run by them? I see the plan is to replace the statue with one of some Maori chief. Were the Europeans of the city consulted about that?
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:07am
  - GoVege
    
    Nah Fletch, its just an excuse to have a long, long chinwag about nothing while getting served heaps of kai.
    Beats getting out and working for a living.
    Btw, when are Maori going to show any gratitude for Cook and his crowd:
    1. Abolishing slavery.
    2. Abolishing cannibalism.
    3. Introducing the rule of law.
    4. Introducing labour-saving technology.
    5. Introducing bennies!!??
    (I’m sure many Maori are appreciative…Just not the loud ones.)
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:48am
    - DigNap15
      
      Giving them jobs
      Giving them the dpb
      
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      October 3, 2018 1:17pm
- Harkman
  
  Yes, waiting in line at the supermarket and the Listener’s cover had a red nose on Captain Cook. A quick read inside, it really had nothing to do with Cook. Just smear the white guy.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:28am
- srylands
  
  That’s terrible. Cook had his flaws but he was a genius.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:34am
  - GoVege
    
    Show me a man who’s not making mistakes and I’ll show you a man who’s not doing anything!
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:37am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Not true.
      
      Have you ever heard of a man named Simon Bridges?
      
      I rest my case.
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:11pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        So you guys think Soimun is either doing nothing or he is making mistakes? Which is it?
        
        Be specific please 😀
        
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        October 3, 2018 5:10pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And although Cooked apparently not eaten.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gisborne has 2 Captain Cook statues.
  The one on Titirangi/Kaiti Hill that is to be removed to the Museum has had a bit of a history… It does not seem to have the correct uniform of a British Naval Officer.
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/33514/james-cook-memorial-on-kaiti-hill
  
  The other Cook statue is at the mouth of Turanganui R. across from Kaiti Beach. It will remain in situ.
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/33528/james-cook-cook-statue-on-waterfront
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:45am
- VicParking
  
  Commented about this the other day. My pitch was that european names are given maori prefix’s but maori names are not given european suffix’s.
  Manuka – Tea Tree Street
  
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  October 3, 2018 11:16am
artemisia

If landlords continue to exit the business, the Accommodation Supplement will fall of course. The cost of emergency motels and social housing will increase. Also medical costs as families bunk up together in overcrowded conditions. It is an opposite reaction but not an equal one.

I do wonder if anyone is doing the real sums here, or just cherrypicking the bits they like the look of.
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October 3, 2018 8:42am
oldpark

Petrol costs will soon be $3.00 a litre. NZs have to pay the $1,300,000,000 in accordance with the so called Paris global warming accord. Many countries who have read the small print are baling out. Not NZ . For some reason or other . Oh yes . Political ideology, leading the charge Ardern/Peters/ Far left Lunatic Greens Party. What a bloody indictment of such a pack of losers and no hopers leading the good ship NZ onto the rocks. Would have thought the well being of our NZ Teachers and Police etc,etc quality of life was a lot more important than throwing money at so called Paris Accord global warming claptrap, or same in Pacific Islands. Whatever happened to the saying. “Charity begins at home “.
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October 3, 2018 9:01am
- srylands
  
  James Shaw is the first climate change minister who thinks that the government can seriously reduce emissions. But the only way he can really do that is by electrifying transport. So tax petrol cars heavily, especially old ones, and subsidise electric vehicles. Of course that would be regressive. I now see many electric vehicles in Thorndon. Not so many in Lower Hutt.
  
  It will be interesting to see what he comes up with. Heavily taxing cars with petrol at $2.50 would be poisonous. And if you just give large rebates for electric cars, it costs a packet but is still regressive.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:47am
  - Kabull
    
    But … but … unless EVs have a significant road user charge imposed (like diesel vehicles), how will James and his mates pay for the roading infrastructure? The loss of tax from petrol will necessitate some other form of tax to replace it. Oh, but … we won’t need roading infrastructure because will will all be walking or riding our horses!
    My reading of Govt statements so far is that from 2020 (or there-abouts) there will be a new tax on EVs.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:09am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “how will James and his mates pay for the roading infrastructure?”
      Answer:
      They aren’t.
      The bigger question:
      How are they going to pay for the trains?
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:14am
    - rockape
      
      Watch the pedestrian and cyclist road tole go up with these stealth vehicles.
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:44am
    - BassilFawlty
      
      Good point, so all the early adopters that have made the jump to EVs, and have done their sums around not paying any RUC / petrol tax and levy’s, will no doubt get a big shock. And with the inevitability of more expensive power generation (windmills and solar) it will be a double hit.
      
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      October 3, 2018 1:37pm
    - Komata
      
      Kabull
      
      You’re not supposed to ask awkward questions…
      
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      October 3, 2018 2:44pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Rebates for electric cars?
    They knock the roads around more than petrol cars (because they are so heavy), and they will eventually have to pay road user charges like diesel cars because if electric cars ever reach a substantial percentage of cars on the road the Govt. will run out of money for the roads unless they pay their share.
    (Sorry Kabull you beat me to it).
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:14am
  - Bullion
    
    The Trump administration says we’re fucked anyway:
    
    Last month, deep in a 500-page environmental impact statement, the Trump administration made a startling assumption: On its current course, the planet will warm a disastrous seven degrees by the end of this century.
    
    A rise of seven degrees Fahrenheit, or about four degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels would be catastrophic, according to scientists. Many coral reefs would dissolve in increasingly acidic oceans. Parts of Manhattan and Miami would be underwater without costly coastal defenses. Extreme heat waves would routinely smother large parts of the globe.
    
    But the administration did not offer this dire forecast, premised on the idea that the world will fail to cut its greenhouse gas emissions, as part of an argument to combat climate change. Just the opposite: The analysis assumes the planet’s fate is already sealed.
    
    The draft statement, issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), was written to justify President Trump’s decision to freeze federal fuel-efficiency standards for cars and light trucks built after 2020. While the proposal would increase greenhouse gas emissions, the impact statement says, that policy would add just a very small drop to a very big, hot bucket.
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-sees-a-7-degree-rise-in-global-temperatures-by-2100/2018/09/27/b9c6fada-bb45-11e8-bdc0-90f81cc58c5d_story.html?utm_term=.0cc428864696
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:42pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Paris global warming accord”
  
  Transferring money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:55pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, stated the goal of climate change policy was “to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”
    
    https://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:33pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Let’s see if I got that.
      The goal of climate change policy is not to affect the rate of climate change but to change the economic development model.
      
      From capitalism to socialism?
      
      In the fashion of double-speak, when they say “climate-change policies” what they really mean is “economic-change policies.”
      
      Now I get it.
      
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      October 3, 2018 3:46pm
Woz

Here’s a chuckle. Apparently being forced to eke out coffee for a living is another step up on the nuclear-powered stellar career. A chance for the fans to meet the “real” thing. She should actually be given a job in the PM’s spin office.

https://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/naz-swaps-limelight-for-lattes-in-new-job/#ath
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October 3, 2018 9:05am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Great spin but why should there be shame?
  
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  October 3, 2018 3:57pm
lastmanstanding

I wonder how many Billions the COL are going to sign up hard working taxpayers to at the Climate Change conference in Poland in December. I understand the Aussies are going to be hit with 4% of the costs even though their emissions are 1.3% of the global total.

I suspect we wont be told until the tax rates are increased to pay for this virtual signalling and Cindys attempt at getting a UN gig when the PMship all turns to custard for her.

And then theres the matter of the UN Immigration Compac. You havent heard anything from the COL about that have you.

Well stand by. This means we take as many immigrants and refugees from wherever the UN agency decided.
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October 3, 2018 9:12am
- stephieboy
  
  “This means we take as many immigrants and refugees from wherever the UN agency decided.” ? ?
  
  I don’t believe that is true. NZ has ultimate control as to numbers and who will they accept!
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:19am
  - Harkman
    
    No we signed up to international agreements that strip our sovereignty. Sound familiar?
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:30am
  - KevOB
    
    You wish.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:16pm
  - Komata
    
    SB
    
    NZ has ultimate control as to numbers and who will they accept!
    
    WHO has ultimate control?
    
    Not NZ, just a SLG who has already made her and her party’s intentions known.
    
    You should be pleased; more of your mates (and daughters) to keep you company…
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:48pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And look who is representing ‘us’.
    
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    October 3, 2018 3:58pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s nuts, particularly when global warming is actually beneficial to NZ (warmer=more agricultural production).
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:37am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Indeed. Warm is good. So is CO2. We benefit from more of both.
    
    But we’ve just had the coldest September is a decade, so the alarmists will be furious.
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:15pm
- Paulus
  
  Can we assume that the next PR photo exercise after APEC in PNG shortly she will be going with bubba to Poland for the Climate Change Conference in November ?
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:50pm
waikatogirl

Without informing the staff involved of cameras and listening devices, NZ Post have been caught out spying on their delivery staff with camera and listening devices in their cute little delivery vehicles. NZ Post had the ability to watch and also listen to conversations between the postie with the public but also private phone calls by their employees. NZP used the old excuse that monitoring was a health and safety issue. You would think NZP would have consulted their lawyers before going for this monitoring option.
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October 3, 2018 9:23am
- Inandout
  
  NZ Post has entered a minefield here as regards legality. It is hoped they consulted lawyers re this document.
  
  https://privacy.org.nz/news-and-publications/guidance-resources/information-privacy-principles/
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:12am
- KevOB
  
  Were NZ Post concerned they might be on moonlight Uber runs?
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:18pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Was Michael Cullen in charge then?
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:35pm
- BassilFawlty
  
  What are posties doing taking personal calls during work time? The post scooter is surely a work place and I would of thought the employer has every right in the world to record your interactions, both audio and video, it’s the same in any other work place, as long as the staff are aware.
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:44pm
RW Capitalist

In NZ consumer confidence is falling
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/consumer_spending_update/consumer_spending_update_consumer_confidence_levels_off_at_record_levels
The difference
The US …..LOWERED taxes
NZ………….RAISED taxes.
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October 3, 2018 9:23am
secondcumming

What’s happened to the normal bloke on *7 Sharp*?

There was a new guy fronting it with Hillary Barry last nite. God only knows where they got him from …….but he made me feel like I wanted to vomit 🙁
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October 3, 2018 9:27am
- Harkman
  
  Wells is away for school holidays, the option is “Matty” or “the pregnant lesbian.”
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:34am
  - secondcumming
    
    I actually don’t mind ‘the pregnant lesbian’……at least she acts like a man.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:57am
- Brian Marshall
  
  I stopped regularly watching it after Toni and Mike left. And when Anika Moa is on, I definitely turn it over, or turn the TV off. Did catch it the other week when Toni was in for Hilary and found it more watchable than usual. (And infinitely more bareable than the pathetic Project on TV3. That show is not news or current affairs).
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:44am
  - waikatogirl
    
    We haven’t watched since Mike left.
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:01am
    - stigie
      
      Same, who wants to see people gushing and fawning over the current rabble..?
      
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      October 3, 2018 10:20am
- Philview
  
  I watched a bit of the project last night and brief interview with Art Green. Art raised the issue of Tall Poppy Syndrome.
  I have noticed how this has come back in the last 12 months. Lefties have crawled out from their hiding places and are abusing the shit out of anyone trying to make something of their lives. I thought NZ had become a bit more comfortable with success but the Coalition Government and Peters in particular have stirred up some unpleasant sentiments. We will soon be back to the bad old days of talented people leaving in droves to escape the socialist bullies.
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:14am
  - secondcumming
    
    Totally agree! Was always able to leave the car parked in Parnell without a problem for the last nine years…….now the Porsche has been keyed 3 times in the last *nine months*.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:04am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The “Tall Poppy Syndrome.”
    
    Proudly supported by people who desire social equality.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:56pm
- G152
  
  Employed as the resident soy boy and allowed to agree with any woman at the desk…
  Our media has died
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:26am
- Woz
  
  Perhaps they realised that the wooden fence post is an old(ish) white guy and quickly marginalised him with a poof and a pregnant lesbian.
  
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  October 3, 2018 11:09am
Hugh Pavletich

… Dairy prices keep falling …

Dairy prices slip again; Powell very positive; China equities dive; Italian bond yields jump; RBA upbeat; AU banks no longer unquestionably strong; UST 10yr at 3.06%; oil unchanged, gold jumps; NZ$1 = 66 USc; TWI-5 = 70.1 | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/96143/dairy-prices-slip-again-powell-very-positive-china-equities-dive-italian-bond-yields-jump
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Russia now largest wheat exporter in the world …

Struggling U.S. Farmers Worry About a Resurgent Russia – WSJ
… google search title if blocked …

https://www.wsj.com/articles/grain-is-our-oil-russia-is-besting-the-u-s-as-a-wheat-powerhouse-1537719747
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October 3, 2018 9:30am
- Harkman
  
  It’s all going pear-shaped for your government.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:35am
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman, there are affairs in the world that are beyond any N Z’s governments control. Trump’s Tariff wars with China ( of which Trump’s farmers are now suffering ), unstable agricultural commodity and oil prices etc, etc.!
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:50am
    - VicParking
      
      Link please ???
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:20am
    - KevOB
      
      Yes. The COL should be aware of and allowing for that. It takes knowhow to run NZ.
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:23pm
Paulus

I am surprised to hear the Teacher’s Union leaders call the them Professionals.
Must be poor teachers because any other real Profession has Professional Standards.
In a Profession you are employed by application and the best one who fits the requirements gets an offer.
Their futures are governed by their quality of work, interaction both with other staff, Managers, and overall employers.
Regular performance appraisals are done by the Employer.
Salaries are determined according to performance.
How can a Union led group of people be left to be responsible for the performance of their children when all salaries are determined by the Unions in accordance by how many years Teachers have been working ?
Not by performance – which of course means that the poorest of teachers get the same terms and condition and salaries as the many good teachers.
So how can it be called a Profession ?

p.s. see Doctors Union leader gets $980,000 a year, plus expenses, and office expense of ($400,000).
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- mandk
  
  Agreed.
  
  Teaching is not a profession. The unions have seen to that.
  
  Teachers have chosen to be represented by Trades Unions, and they deserve no more respect or remuneration than other union members.
  
  Most tradies, who tend not to be members of unions, are smarter and better paid than teachers.
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    mandk, you show em, eh? It must be so easy to be a teacher!
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:52am
    - sooty
      
      Teachers have just shot them selves in the foot by going on strike during school hours. They value their holidays too much! Dock their pay as well!
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:14am
    - mandk
      
      Telling it how it is, stephie.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:46am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      In New Zealand it is. You don’t even need to speak English if teaching in Auckland
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:59pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Especially when so many kids are failing.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:33pm
LTA1955

When is the next poll due? Just seems to be a lack of these since the COL rorted the MMP process, last year there was one every week!
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October 3, 2018 10:22am
- stephieboy
  
  “..the COL rorted the MMP process,… ”
  
  ???
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:53am
  - VicParking
    
    yes like you rorted your goat
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:21am
  - KevOB
    
    You know as well as anyone that govt for life is their objective.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:25pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I think DPF’s interview said only 1 poll every three months these days. Another example of saying the most transparent govt ever – is NOT.
  See thread for DPF’s attached interview.
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:54am
- rockape
  
  Only at election time. RM was monthly now gone. CB averages 6 weeks and Reid 4 monthly.
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Help Ladies (and Manolo)…..

I’ve been neglecting my accessories wardrobe.

Should I purchase a Lana Marks?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/02/lana-marks-trump-us-ambassador-south-africa

or should I favour a NZ bag designer?
(who does our P.M. favour?)
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October 3, 2018 10:34am
- Gravelroad
  
  You’d get on better MW if you asked the PM what brand (and how many) baby accessory bags she has. Offer her really high tech one.
  Then bring the convo round to NZ High Commissioner ops that might be available.
  Ensure you contact her on her private email address.
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Of course I googled the PM and bags… and just got loads of hits on banning plastic bags…
    
    No wonder I’m getting surly looks down at Kaiti Mall.
    http://cliffsofdunnings.blogspot.com/2009/04/bag-lady.html
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:56am
- stephieboy
  
  MW, kit yourself with these,
  
  http://jumpinbloomers.com/eyelet-trimmed-bloomers/
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:56am
  - secondcumming
    
    @stephieboy…….my missus reckons you are a total bellend.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:08am
    - Swifty
      
      She’s not the only one.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:44am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    You have been taken to task a number of times over your perverted interest in MWs underwear.
    Is that your attempt at humour?
    It is offensive.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:49pm
- waikatogirl
  
  What a hoot being able to charge those prices and actually get silly people to buy them!
  I only need something to carry my bits and bobs in Maggy so no use consulting me. ?
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:58am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Shouldn’t that be
  “Ladies (and Gentlemanolo)…?”
  
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  October 3, 2018 3:49pm
Fletch

Did You Know? – factoid of the day.
According to former Obama U.N Ambassador Samantha Power, only 12% of UN member states allow same-sex marriage.

Also there are 72 countries where homosexuality is illegal.

You’d think by the way everyone usually talks that gay marriage is commonly accepted world-wide.
Not so.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-ol-enter-the-fray-the-trump-administration-adopts-another-1538495377-htmlstory.html
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October 3, 2018 10:42am
stephieboy

Donald Trump helped parents hide money on tax returns: New York Times

“US President Donald Trump engaged in tax schemes that included cases of fraud in which he and his siblings helped their parents dodge taxes, the New York Times is reporting, citing more than 200 tax returns it has obtained….

The Times investigation, which a Trump lawyer said was inaccurate, showed Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate business. The newspaper cited a “vast trove” of confidential tax return and financial records.
The Times reported that much of that fortune came to Trump because he helped his parents evade taxes, setting up a fake corporation with his siblings to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents.

During his presidential campaign, Trump promoted himself as a self-made real estate mogul who started out with only a “very small” loan from his businessman father, Fred Trump….”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taxes/trump-helped-parents-hide-money-on-tax-returns-new-york-times-idUSKCN1MC2OM

Now, why should not be surprised by this?
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October 3, 2018 10:45am
- GoVege
  
  Did Trump ever disclose his own tax returns?
  
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  October 3, 2018 10:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    Go vege , I don’t believe so and here’s why,
    
    Is Donald Trump’s Downfall Hidden in His Tax Returns?
    
    The president might just be a one-man version of that once-renowned company, Enron.
    
    https://www.thenation.com/article/is-donald-trumps-downfall-hidden-in-his-tax-returns/
    
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    October 3, 2018 10:59am
  - Fletch
    
    Yeh, Rachel Maddow made a big song and dance about his returns on her show, holding them up for the camera, etc, like it was the biggest news bombshell ever. In fact, his returns were quite normal and everyone laughed at her.
    
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    October 3, 2018 11:13am
    - Inandout
      
      Like we are laughing at stephie the squirrel.
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:16am
    - Harkman
      
      Fletch you beat me to it, Rachel Maddow, made a massive mistake last year, the one thing the left had over Trump was that he wasn’t paying taxes. It turns out that he was, in fact lots of tax.
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:45pm
- dime
  
  “showed Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate business. ”
  
  LOL fake news. gotta make the number sound YUGE
  
  No need to use the real one. Lets make it “in todays money”
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:19pm
- KevOB
  
  The NYT may have just signed it’s death warrant. If it cannot prove its statements it will be out of business.
  Allegations like this are not news without proof up front.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:28pm
- Jules99
  
  Love to see family values at work. Do they really tax gifts from parents in the US? His biggest achievement – beating Hillary Clinton.
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:59pm
starboard

Sobering reading..

http://www.nzcpr.com/newsletter/
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October 3, 2018 11:00am
Maggy Wassilieff

Niue needs its roads fixed.

Thanks, China.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/367801/niue-mulls-chinese-shipping-tax-scheme-under-belt-and-road
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October 3, 2018 11:02am
- Poppa
  
  I thought Cindy had taken care of that?
  
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  October 3, 2018 11:25am
  - sooty
    
    Who’s getting the bribe that Cindy gave to the islands?
    
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    October 3, 2018 1:20pm
- Komata
  
  Maggie
  
  Say hello to the new face of imperialism…
  
  ‘Conquest without guns’ is the policy; and it’s working a treat.
  
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  October 3, 2018 2:54pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It suits me fine.
    
    I have no particular wish to be conquered by guns.
    
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    October 3, 2018 3:48pm
    - Jazzby
      
      Sorry, but two negatives don’t necessarily make a positive.
      I relish neither the thought of armed warfare, nor the idea of a ‘soft power’ takeover by the Chinese who, as Komata rightly says, are imperialists who would clearly like to dominate the Pacific region.
      In reality, of course, we’ll have no say in the matter: we are, to the Chinese, as a flea on the bum of an elephant.
      
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      October 3, 2018 6:05pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Sorry, but two negatives don’t necessarily make a positive.
        
        Yes, I do remember some basic maths.
        But I’ve always been a bit of a Sinophile.
        
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        October 3, 2018 6:19pm
Inandout

Remember when we had Paul Henry to ask intelligent questions? This was a simpler and quieter Jacinda, joined at the hip by a simpler Simon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg5VxkskUWc
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October 3, 2018 11:12am
Niz

UK students want rid of clapping and whooping, to be replaced by ‘jazz hands’ (jizz hands?).
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/10/uk-student-union-bans-clapping-to-avoid-triggering-anxiety.html
There’s a poll on this page that asks NZers if they would support a ban on clapping. 96% say no. This is proof that 4% of the country are idjuts, and shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The Green party would then be dead.
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October 3, 2018 11:18am
- cmm
  
  Maybe 1% of people get anxiety from clapping.
  
  I bet closer to 50% get anxiety from exams, public speaking, wondering if it is going to rain tomorrow, how your favourite team is going to do on the week end, whether the bakery has run out of those yummy chewy biscuits with raisins in them….
  
  Going to ban all those too?
  
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  October 3, 2018 11:29am
  - Niz
    
    They’re next. One thing at a time eh?
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:50pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Boiling the frog, nek minit.
      
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      October 3, 2018 4:21pm
anonymouse

Incoming hit job on the Taxpayers Union from David Fisher

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/how-right-wing-lobby-group-used-false-identities-to-make-oia-request-and-how-it-got-caught/

There is/was also a herald article but it appears to have been pulled,
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12133419

you can still see its headline in Google’s search results
https://www.google.com/search?q=tax+payers+union+OIA+names&gws_rd=ssl

The Newstalk story starts with
“The Herald uncovered evidence showing people seeking information for the NZ Taxpayers’ Union did not actually exist – and that numerous email addresses from its purported members were actually directly linked to its head office.”
but concludes with the rather damp squib of

“Steven Price, barrister and adjunct lecturer at Victoria University’s Faculty of Law, said government agencies could insist on making sure people were entitled to make requests under law – but there was no requirement for a requester to use their own name.

“The whole thing is not a good look for the Taxpayers’ Union.”
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October 3, 2018 11:37am
- gump
  
  Why is it a hit job?
  
  The Taxpayer’s Union are refusing to use the same transparency they demand from Government agencies. That seems more than a tad hypocritical.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:08pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The Taxpayers’ ‘Union’ is an astroturf outfit set up by a handful of National and ACT backers. They pretend to be a membership organisation, but do not release any membership figures or details of their finances.
    How they must have chuckled to themselves over the canapés and cabernet when they decided to call themselves a ‘union’.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:14pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      I’m a financial supporter.
      
      They do a great job weeding out waste of taxpayer resources, irrespective of which political party is heading the profligate national/local government.
      
      I encourage others to support them.
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:41pm
      - starboard
        
        Same, I’m a financial supporter as well. Whats not to like about them, unless you have something to hide.
        
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        October 3, 2018 1:20pm
    - Harkman
      
      Why should they? The Greens or Greenpeace don’t reveal who is funding them.
      
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      October 3, 2018 12:48pm
    - TaxpayersUnion
      
      Totally untrue. We disclose both – refer to our annual review and the financial statements filed with the registrar of incorporated societies. In fact, our financial statements have more information about our revenue and expenses than provided by any political party.
      
      And yes, like Greenpeace and other lobby groups, we respect the privacy of our donors, but some are quite public about their support and we welcome that.
      
      Our current staff and board have, or have had, affiliations with National, Labour (a current student intern is a Labour Party member – and our Chairman was once the Press Secretary to a Labour Party Leader), Act, Greens, and the Conservatives. Our previous communications coordinator was hired out of NZ First.
      
      While we have some more work to do, we are reasonably happy with the political diversity we have within the organisation.
      
      ^JW
      
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      October 3, 2018 11:29pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    2 months back we saw a story on public service not acting on an OIA becasue they didn’t like the requester:
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/adhb_wont_release_official_information_unless_they_like_you.html
    
    Making anonymous requests seems sensible if you want to actually get the data without getting bureaucrats backs up too much.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:21pm
  - KevOB
    
    Private entities do not have general public accountability.
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:31pm
Jack5

Afghan who crashed into NZ on a fake passport, then six months later was granted residency as a refugee, is going home. He blames “racism and workplace bullying”.

But, not word in the Stuff report whether his five children he he then brought to NZ, will be leaving, too. I doubt it. They will still be here, unless they’ve gone through the back door into Australia.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107492856/man-who-arrived-as-asylum-seeker-leaving-after-life-in-nz-failed-to-deliver
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October 3, 2018 11:50am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hey Jack, in my comment above I used a diacritical mark. I’m very sorry about that, as it seems to upset you.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:16pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Well what did he expect coming from the filthy infidels?
  
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  October 3, 2018 1:06pm
- Nermal
  
  So what is he waiting for?
  Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
  And don’t forget to rescind your NZ citizenship
  
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  October 3, 2018 3:45pm
starboard

Failed to deliver what? What was the toerag expecting? Milk and honey ? Good riddance, and take your scummy family with ya. Ungrateful rodent.
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October 3, 2018 12:16pm
mikenmildagain

President Donald J Trump will definitely be suing over this slander:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
Or maybe just fire off some angry tweets.
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October 3, 2018 12:22pm
- gump
  
  I thought the NY Times Editorial board summed up the situation rather well:
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/opinion/donald-trump-tax-fraud-fred.html
  
  What I find fascinating is that none of this would have come to light if Trump hadn’t surrendered to his ego and run for President. The ability to conceal this type of financial malfeasance implies that the American tax system is either broken or susceptible to abuse by the wealthy.
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:47pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The uniform tax code in USA runs to about 75000 pages of law. On average over every man woman and child USAins spend 30 hours and $500 to file tax returns each year.
    
    Broken doesn’t even begin to describe it.
    
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    October 3, 2018 1:33pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Sure, it was the government’s fault that Trump, his siblings and their old man were pretty much forced to commit fraud to make sure the family fortune could be augmented and passed on without being taxed.
      
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      October 3, 2018 2:56pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Inheritance taxes don’t work. There are always ways around them with sufficient cunning and highly paid lawyers and accountants. They only hit the middle class.
        
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        October 3, 2018 3:18pm
      - KevOB
        
        Allegations of that class without serious proof up front are potentially defamatory.
        
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        October 3, 2018 3:29pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        True, KevOB, and yet the NYT team has made those charges, openly and specifically.
        What will the president do about that? Deny any wrongdoing and tweet angrily about it, of course. Take any legal action – I’d say that would be very unlikely, wouldn’t you?
        
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        October 3, 2018 3:50pm
      - starboard
        
        “frt-frt-frtt-pop pop-farrrt-pop-frrt”
        
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        October 3, 2018 7:06pm
- dime
  
  Trump is too busy rebuilding America. A tweet will do.
  
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  October 3, 2018 3:51pm
Viking2

Interupting things.
Has anyone heard about Penny?
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October 3, 2018 12:39pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  On 3 October:
  Activist Penny Bright turned “sixty ‘bloody’ four” in Auckland Hospital today on the last of six days doctors gave her to live.
  
  She’s a pretty determined bird, so I bet she’s hanging on for her pension!
  
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  October 3, 2018 12:55pm
  - cmm
    
    After Banksie’s gracious visit I hope Winnie finds time to stagger over and personally give her a Gold card!
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:58pm
MCos

Some group erected an anti vaccine billboard in the vicinity of Middlemore Hospital and after an outcry pulled it down again a day later.
What’s wrong with these people?
Surely they’ve heard of ‘freedom of speech’.
Why don’t they stand their ground and insist they have a right to propagate whatever they like to confused parents who don’t have the time to check out their insidious suggestions.
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October 3, 2018 12:42pm
- Jazzby
  
  Much though I despise the anti-vaxxers for their dishonesty and scaremongering, I have to agree with you that ‘freedom of expression’ means just that. The only acceptable way to counter ideas that one finds unacceptable is to vigorously rebut them with reasoned argument.
  This is, by the way, why I cannot accept the proscription of ‘hate speech’; let it be ventilated, and then argued down.
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:12pm
  - gump
    
    The advertising industry self regulates.
    
    Nobody has forced the billboard to come down, the billboard operator has voluntarily chosen to take it down (and they get to decide what is shown on the billboards that they own).
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:28pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Same principle as a blog owner taking down comments her or she deems unacceptable. It wasn’t clear from the article I read why the site owner took down the billboard. Given the nature of anti-vaxxers is to lie, I should not be surprised if they misled the owner as to the content of the message.
      I also believe anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, Holocaust deniers and all other manner of deluded numpties have the right to express their weird views for me to laugh at.
      
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      October 3, 2018 7:23pm
DigNap15

Talking about getting rid of the car rego fee..
It would make all of us pay and stop the chasing of people that don’t or can’t pay it.
But one major reason for the Rego is to keep our nations car fleet register tracked and up to date.
So how would they enforce that if it was just say voluntary?
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October 3, 2018 1:39pm
- gump
  
  The fines for not registering your car will still exist.
  
  The only thing they’re proposing to take away is the fee for the registration. You’ll still need to register your vehicle every year.
  
  It’s a surprisingly good policy. There’s not downside to it.
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:30pm
DigNap15

Which brings me to today’s Maori Vocab lesson
Registration

But some twit from the teachers union was on the radio this morning saying they wanted to upskill children all over the motu

They are becoming like rust…
They never sleep…
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October 3, 2018 1:41pm
Philview

I had a listen to Boris Johnson’s speech yesterday. Interesting to hear a Conservative make a case for conservatism. I think Simon Bridges should take note and remember John Key’s advice to him to be bold. Simon needs to smash it out of the park on what New Zealand and conservatism means to him. We have Jacinda’s bullshit narrative of the broken, impoverished, polluted shit hole country full of starving children, homelessness and the mentally ill and how socialism is going to fix the mess. I don’t see what she sees.
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October 3, 2018 1:42pm
- DigNap15
  
  Most decent people on here and elsewhere know what is needed to fix it.
  Cancel the dpb to reduce unwanted ferals and reduce the dole till people get jobs.
  Then we could reduce taxes and give to charidy if we wish.
  But are there enough conservatives in NZ to get over 50%!
  That is the question.
  
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  October 3, 2018 2:35pm
  - starboard
    
    Been sayin that for years. Stop the baby factories.
    Its out of control but nobody has the balls to implement. Family can take care of them. Of course, the other option is maybe those baby factory females stop being whores, have some self respect FFS.
    
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    October 3, 2018 2:57pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      have some self respect
      
      Says the man that pretends he can afford to pay whores.
      
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      October 3, 2018 3:52pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Lots of things for the tourists in that descriptor!!!
        
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        October 3, 2018 4:49pm
      - starboard
        
        Stop tugging ya noodle, mm.
        
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        October 3, 2018 7:03pm
  - Philview
    
    I read an article yesterday that Robertson and the TWG may be looking at income tax cuts such as a $7,000 tax free threshold and a capital gains tax to pay for it. That will make like interesting for the National Party policy advisers.
    
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    October 3, 2018 3:02pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Lots of things for the tourists in that descriptor!!!
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:39pm
Hugh Pavletich

Vancouver Home Sales Crash 44% As “For Sale” Inventory Soars | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-02/vancouver-home-sales-crash-44-sale-inventory-soars

What happens when prices rise so high that a chasm forms between bids and asks? The market grinds to a halt.

That’s what happened in Vancouver housing in September, when according to the Real Estate Board of Vancouver (REBGV), residential property sales tumbled by 17.3% from August 2018, and a whopping 43.5% from one year ago. In fact, a total of only 1,595 transactions took place as both buyers and sellers continue to sit on their hands amid confusion whether the recent torrid price gains will continue or whether the housing bubble has burst.

Sales of detached properties in July was just 508, a decrease of 40.4% from the 852 recorded in September 2017, and the 812 apartments sold was a 44% drop compared to the 1,451 sales in September 2017. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 3, 2018 2:00pm
BananaLlama

What has stuff.co.nz done to their website lmao who ever approved that design should be fired.
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/primary-teachers-disproportionately-white-irish-and-catholic-1.3642624

“Dr Manuela Heinz and Dr Elaine Keane, from the school of education in NUI Galway, have carried out the first comprehensive and nationwide study in Ireland which explores the socio-demographic backgrounds of entrants to primary teacher education programmes”.

“11.6 per cent of the population identify as non-Irish, while 82.2 per cent of the population identify as white Irish”.

…The majority of trainee primary school teachers are white, Irish and Catholic and do not reflect our ((diverse)) population…

It’s always, without fail, every time, no exceptions, a ‘Heinz’, or married to a ‘Heinz’, or related to ‘Heinz’s’ or friends with a ‘Heinz’, or the surname used to Heinz before it was anglicized. Always.

When is a Dr Christian going to say that due to Israel’s Christian minority, Israel MUST stop Jewish teachings in all the Chabad-Lubovitz and Simeon Bar Yochai and all the other Pharisaic Synagogues and instead teach diversity? It’s going to happen.

“Dr Heinz said it is important we take notice of the widening diversity gap and identify potential barriers for individuals from underrepresented groups”.

“Dr Heinz said the predominantly denominational and mostly Catholic Irish primary school and initial teacher education system may act as a further deterrent for people who do not share the religious beliefs and values of the majority of primary schools and colleges”.

Ah of course. If it’s a catholic education system which is high performing, it has to be dismantled for people who don’t share those ‘values’. No – the people who don’t share those values in Ireland should emigrate to Yemen or to Los Angeles. Ireland doesn’t change for them. They change, or they depart.

““For many students who are refugees, have certain learning difficulties, or have come from abroad and did not speak English when they enrolled in school, the door to primary teaching is closed early”

Well, yes. People who can’t speak English and who have learning difficulties shouldn’t be teaching. In Israel, do those very smart Ashkenazi students get taught by foreign scum who can’t speak English or Hebrew and have learning difficulties?

“We are hoping that this research will trigger more thinking about teacher demand and supply, and the characteristics and qualities we are looking for in teachers.”

I’m hoping that the research triggers more Irish into understanding the nature of their enemies. It’s always the same. Take a western nation. Introduce a significant foreign minority that doesn’t share the values or national character. Facilitate it by promoting diversity as a strength as a slogan absent evidence. Use that wedge as a basis to totally destroy the host nation from within.

https://irishenergyblog.blogspot.com/2017/01/green-party-want-to-double-population.html

They want to import 5million non-Irish into Ireland in the next 25 years. That will double the population and make more then half of it non-Irish.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/02/irish-pm-eu-crisis-patriotic-migration/

Leo Varadkar says Europe’s problems are being caused by the Right. Varadkar isn’t catholic. Like Merkel, you always find the name change and the truth.

https://merrionstreet.ie/en/News-Room/Speeches/Speech_of_An_Taoiseach_Leo_Varadkar_Project_Ireland_2040_Forum_on_Creating_Stronger_Rural_Economies_and_Communities.html

Ireland 2040 is just the beginning. The whole country is only 4.7m. This homosexual Indian wants to import 1 million Africans, Muslims, and Hindoos into Ireland by 2040. His coalition partners want 5 million.

Imagine if say in India, they for some reason elected a Chinese Prime Minister, and Mr Hao said that India was too Indian, and because of the teachings of the Talmud, he thought it was appropriate to import 300million Chinese people in India (25% of the current population).

I hope the Dr Heinz’s understand, there will be expulsions. Not because of any acrimony – just out of necessity for national survival. Ireland is an Irish country for Irish people.
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October 3, 2018 2:44pm
SerfsUp

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7324009/army-training-gender-neutral-fitness-tests/

The British army is dropping sit-ups and press-ups from it’s recruit requirements, and otherwise lowering all of it’s recruitment standards.

The whole article is summarised by the word ‘achievable’. Tests aren’t supposed to be achievable. They’re supposed to establish quality and exclusivity. The old standards emphasised strength and endurance. Now under fallacious lines around ‘functional training’, the strength element is being dropped.

If you compromise standards for the sake of sexual deviants, physically and mentally unfit recruits, and women, you will be destroyed by an enemy that doesn’t affect the same compromises.

Exclusiveness in the military is important. It’s not an affirmative action vehicle for homosexuals and sub85’s.

They say ‘I don’t care if you’re a man or a woman’ – lol, they clearly ‘do’ though. Because they’re lowering their standards. If Valerie Adams is the only woman in the commonwealth who can meet the standards for military service, so be it.

This female fantasy of physical parity is laughable. A mid 30’s kiwiblog boomer who jogs could turn up tomorrow to the national athletics champs and get into the finals of the women’s middle distance running events.

Likely Lesbian, Nicola Cotton says they’re ‘upping the ante’ by making it equal. Well no, they’re not upping ante, they’re massively lowering it.

Do you see how language is simply being inverted, in the most ridiculous ways? How do you ‘up ante’ by ‘lowering ante’.

There is a video from France, where two female cops, fully armed, are simply walked up to, subjugated, and executed by a muslim male with their own side-arms.

In this age of the movies, women think real life is like Gal Gadot in wonder-woman.

In real life, these female soldiers in contact engagements which in urban zones are always proximal, are going to be subjugated, raped, and executed like mice.

It cannot be overstated, the difference in physical characteristics. Not every woman is Valerie Adams.

It’s not about equality. It’s purposeful degradation of military capability. Jump on Tor, and have a look at the network of arms and Fentanyl caches all over Europe. Remember – there are tens of thousands of actual ISIS fighters who entered Europe as ‘refugees’. Soros and others are ensuring they are extremely heavily armed and have access to secure comms. Nobody gives a shit about the million English girls raped in England since 1980. I do. Does no one question why the musloid scum are able to mobilise tens of thousands into the streets at will in extremely short order? It’s because they have access to govt facilitated secure networks.

Just like occurred to our Kiwi troops in World War 1 on the Somme, at Passchendale, and elsewhere where they were deliberately thrown into Maxim Machine gun fire (Maxim were a Nathan Rothschild owned company – and he was the handler for the Prime Minister Lord Herbert Asquith) to cull the next generation of Christian leadership, modern militaries are being degraded by the same people for the same reasons.

Do you know how many Tolkiens and Lewis’s were killed in WW1? How many Juliens, and Painleves and Rheinachs? The Igbo in England are supposed to replace them.

Read Tolkien – his regiments consisted of men who talked to each other in languages they made up. Read the opening passages of Evelyn Waugh’s Brideshead revisited – he speaks exactly of this.

And it’s the same now. Guys from the middle-east don’t have fluoridated water and the same exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals. On average, they are physically stronger then the worthless British and French male. When these Vichy governments of Europe with their childless female defence ministers and their fake elected leaders send their female soldiers against these men, they will be gathered up and cut down like petals on the breeze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUHdprKIwo
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October 3, 2018 3:22pm
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October 3, 2018 3:34pm
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The Jumbo (Boeing 747) is 50 years old.

I still recall being very excited about my first flight in this aircraft, way back in the 1970’s. 40 years later and I daren’t count the number of hours I spent cooped up in these things – from the original (upstairs was tiny!), the SP, the ‘mega-top’, and the 400 series.

Long haul these days is in the A380 or A350 or 777 and it’s a lot more comfortable.

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October 3, 2018 3:37pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, and they were so reliable.
  As a teenager I was used to hearing about 707’s and DC8s crashing fairly regularly.
  I thought wow if a 747 goes down that’s a lot of people.
  
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  October 3, 2018 3:44pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    I recall listening to (yes, hearing!) a DC8 for 10% of it’s journey Wlg->Syd. They were so noisy. And not much quieter inside either!
    
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    October 3, 2018 3:53pm
V

Incoming Hitjob

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12133419

Could they use a bigger picture of you dpf?
I mean, we can’t quite make out individual nosehairs!
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October 3, 2018 3:45pm
SerfsUp

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7324009/army-training-gender-neutral-fitness-tests/

Related. The British army has announced new recruit standards. The key word in the article is ‘achievable’.

The army rep says ‘I don’t care if you’re a man or a woman’. Except they ‘do’ because if they didn’t, they wouldn’t have lowered standards to create a gender-neutral catastrophe.

The ‘functional sports science’ and ‘real-life military tasks’ lines are hilarious nonsense. The standards being replaced were instituted after multiple actual wars – from World War 2, Korea, Vietnam, the Falklands, Iraq 1. They’re replacing standards derived from combat experience with standards derived from diversity values. Just like they’re replacing all white Christian male senior and mid-level officers with trannies, homosexuals, muslims and women.

Lance Corporal Nicola Cotton says “it is about time we upped the ante and make it equal and not make allowance for gender or age”. Lol – they’re ‘upping the ante’ by lowering the standards so women and sub85’s can pass the physical and mental tests. How do you ‘up ante’ by ‘lowering ante’. ‘Not make allowances for gender’ – not recognise gender differences.

If Valerie Adams is the only woman in the commonwealth who can meet the standards, so be it. Feminists live in a fantasy movie world where they’re all Gal Godot as wonderwoman. There is a video from France which shows two female police officers fully armed simply walked up to, subjugated, and executed by a muslim boy, one with her own side-arm, the other with a knife through her aorta. Everyone else is disarmed. And why would a Christian male help these women who got what they voted for and demanded anyway?

Urban combat contact is proximal. It’s not long-range. It’s hand-to-hand. These idiot feminist women are going to be cut down like petals to a scythe, after they get raped.

Western militaries that compromise to lower standards will be crushed by enemies who do not lower standards.

That’s why I almost hope the Zionists in England get Britain to go to war with Russia. They will be curb-stomped.
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October 3, 2018 3:50pm
- SerfsUp
  
  Read Tolkien. In his regiments he was able to speak to other officers of his cultural pedigree in languages they crafted themselves. Evelyn Waugh speaks of the same phenomenon in Brideshead Revisited. At some level they knew.
  
  How many Tolkiens, how many Clive Lewis’s, how many Schusters, Hough-Loves and Collingwoods, how many Cousteaus and Lovelaces, were fed to the Maxims owned by Nathan Rothschild? How many of our future kiwi leaders? The same in world war 2? Read the material on why the Australian government forced the re-call of it’s division from the middle-east in world war 2. They knew. It wasn’t just because of Japan. The British trying to assassinate Trump and Julie Bishop and Alexander Downer getting involved is not the first instance of British/Zionist sedition.
  
  Our troops were betrayed by their “”British”” officers at the Somme and Passcheandale and later Tobruk and Crete.
  
  Now it’s exactly the same. Jump on Tor. Find the overlays of discovered arms dumps and Fentanyl dumps with the Mosque network in Britain, Europe and Canada.
  
  I know no one, especially immigrants, give a damn about the 1million English girl-children raped since 1980. But has anyone wondered how it is that muslims in England can mobilise in the tens of thousands in short order? They have access to secure comms. It’s not Whatsapp. It’s secure networks. They are being armed by Soros and co.
  
  These diversity affirmative action trannie homosexual feminist funpad armies aren’t being instituted for no reason. They’re there so that they will be ineffectual, and so that their troop cohorts are made up of people with no loyalty to the British nation.
  
  It’s the same pattern though the entire west – including Australia. Look at the female defence ministers of Europe, and the homosexual top brass. They’re doing what Francine the anti-pope and his bottoms and tops Gustavo Vera and Cardinal McCarrik and Milagro Sala, and Luigi Cappozi and Cardinal Coccopalmerio and all the rest did to the Church.
  
  The militaries are being prepared to fail. The Church is being set up to fail. Cardinal Pell was scapegoated by the Australia homosexual pederasty because he was going to audit the Vatican Bank.
  
  Once Kavanaugh is on the court, or an equivalent, the Vatican is going to get a cleansing as well.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cWo2-IgMg
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:11pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  And then you ask why Putin is not afraid.
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:34pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  In all running events men are about 10% faster than women. Which really amounts to being 20-30% stronger/more powerful at same weight. The 90kg women world record weightlifter is beaten by 69kg mens champion (ie 30% stronger).
  
  There is nothing that can be done to bridge that gap.
  
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  October 3, 2018 5:25pm
  - Niz
    
    Hmm, dunno about that. Nowadays, you only have to _think_ you’re a woman to be one (who let that happen?), so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the female records started rising as more male females participate in sport.
    Something I don’t get… If you only have to think you’re a woman to be one, why do sporting bodies make men women take drugs to lower their testosterone?
    
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    October 3, 2018 5:57pm
  - SerfsUp
    
    A male kiwiblogger who does some reasonably serious jogging could turn up to the New Zealand national track athletics and make semi-finals and finals of all the middle distance running events against women. If you can run 2.20 for an 800m which isn’t hard, you’ll make it through the rounds.
    
    Serena Williams is an obvious trannie. Go and look up the actual tennis circuit rules. Look at when they changed. Look at Serena’s entry into the field. The most hilarious evidence if from when she and Venus looked like Kobe Bryant and their Dad put them in hair beads to hide their obvious male nature. She’s not Castor Semenya who a legitimate hermaphrodite. She’s a con-artist. She still got smashed by a derelict middle-aged former number 201 man who turned up on the day having smoked a pack of cigarettes, drunk, and not sleeping,
    
    In hand to hand combat, regardless of whatever bullshit kung fu tricks they think they’ve learned, they’ll be bludgeoned and smashed and dashed into a pile of bubbling bloody maw. The videos from Europe are surreal. These women are simply accosted, and then exited from life. And it is so sad. They have been and are being betrayed and exploited by their leadership. Women in general have never been as unhappy as they are now. Because they were conned. And it’s not their fault – it’s the fault of their leadership. Like Avital Ronnell – the parasite who tried to destroy Nimrod Reitman and who got away with it. The same wench who has supported Kavanaugh being denied employment everywhere he goes.
    
    Like Hoff-Summers. Like Steinem. The whole lot. They didn’t write their stupid theories. It was largely written for them – all designed to destroy women whilst ’empowering’ them. The third wave have even less worth. The most modern feminist I feel any sense of sympathy for is Victoria Woolf. She had a hard, tragic life. She, at the least, actually read what she critiqued. She observed Dickens male pacing. She gave an apt comparison of it with Austen. She didn’t seek supremacy, only complementarity. Modern feminists are worthless degenerate vapid stupid uglyt reject parasites. They are an evolutionary aberration and a stain on history. They will simply be thrown off buildings by the muslims and Africans they fellate because they’re NPC’s incapable of rational thought, or forced into Burkas on pain of being struck by the traditional hitting stick, or they’ll be removed from all positions of influence by a resurgent west. Feminism is one gigantic shit test from extremely unattractive, ugly, undesirable, reject, dross-tier, damaged, genetically unfit, mentally ill, stupid low IQ women. Feminism is an Oxytocin shortfall. It’s a mental development issue. It can be solved, biologically.
    
    Women in the military will learn the lessons those French cops learned. They will be raped, then killed, easily, and in their final moments have a sense of horror-struck bemusement at how different it was to what they were told.
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:48pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Why did you change your Kiwiblog user name, UpinaComa? Have the lizard people been tracking you?
      
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      October 3, 2018 6:59pm
Tauhei Notts

I got this from an economics site I subscribe to. It is a bit long, but here goes.
The Nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court is important. The Democrats are desperate to stop the nomination as it would give conservatives on the Court a majority vote. Kavanaugh might help overturn the Roe versus Wade decision. But that is doubtful.
The Democrats real fear is that a Supreme Court majority is the final step needed to reveal and prosecute treasonous activities that occurred in 2009-2016.
Remember, Trump has already called for the de-classification of material related to claims that his team colluded with the Russians to influence the 2016 election. If this were really the case, why would he want to make de-classified material, as well as text and email communications between key F.B.I. investigators, public?
He knows the information will reveal collusion between government agencies and the Democrats, in an attempt to frame a sitting U.S. president. This could be the biggest scandal in U.S. political history. It’s just that the mainstream media isn’t reporting on it because they are implicated too. They worked with the government agencies to create the “Russian collusion” narrative.
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October 3, 2018 3:50pm
- SerfsUp
  
  It’s much worse then that. There is corro seeking and planning his assassination and the assassination of family members, with collusion from ‘allied’ governments.
  
  If Kavanaugh gets on that court, things will happen.
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:15pm
- Jules99
  
  The desperation of the Dems is palpable and I don’t think that is about Roe v Wade. I hope you are right – I’m sick of waiting for these people to face justice.
  
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  October 3, 2018 5:55pm
- fernglas
  
  “The Democrats real fear is that a Supreme Court majority is the final step needed to reveal and prosecute treasonous activities that occurred in 2009-2016”.
  Why would a judicial appointment at the top appellate level impact upon whether to conduct an investigation and prosecution of treasonous activities? It’s not even something likely to get to the Supreme Court, which is focused on constitutional issues and matters of legal principle.
  Your economist should stick to his knitting
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:46pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Morons gotta be morons.
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:01pm
Dave Mann

Good comment and 100% right.

You said that feminists live in a fantasy movie world where they’re all Gal Godot as wonderwoman and, while this is an accurate description, the real danger lies in the fact that society and governments have bought into this fantasy.

This gender stupidity has become so ingrained into western society that it’s as if the whole civilisation has gone mad. Today I was required to fill in a Police vetting form (because I do voluntary work) which quite reasonably asked me to state my gender . Except that the choices were Male, Female and ‘Other’.

What sort of society is it where even the Police pretend that there are more than two genders?

We’re fucked. Oh no, I can’t say that can I, because the word ‘fucked’ has such evil heterosexual overtones. We’re buggered. There. Much better.
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October 3, 2018 4:14pm
- V
  
  Why solve burglaries when you can dream up new forms?
  I will have to report you for use of the word buggered as insensitive to those who enjoy a penis up their bottom.
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:25pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Only way to tickle the prostate, isn’t that the male ‘g’ spot?
    
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    October 3, 2018 5:02pm
- SerfsUp
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2VL_HYG9Y
  
  The Christian Western European world order which took humanity to it’s greatest heights was dissolved by the rat-men, the ilk of Max Nordau and Theodore Herzl, Ze’ev Jabotinsky and Lev Bronstein and their funders and colluders like Herbert Asquith, Woodrow Wilson, the Haldanes, the Cohens, Albert Ballin, Georges in France – from 1903, they knew. Their funders like the Schiffs, the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Rockefellers, the Payseurs. The bankers of Kuhn-Loeb. None of them were touched by the wars. Our great grandfathers, men of the utmost capacities, unblemished by the neuro-toxins and endocrine-disrupters like fluoride and CDCS that impair and weaken us to much today, were resplendent. They were physically and intellectually superior to us in every way. And they were immolated and broken on the wheel, 60,000 in one day at the Somme, by their traitor brass – the Douglas Haigs, the Perishings – who worked for the Payseurs and the Rothschilds. 10 million Christian, K selected men, obliterated. Centuries of learning and discernment, brilliance, and ethical development. Hurled against each other. Replaced, by the rat-men. Christmas 1914, these fellow Christian men came close to ending their destruction. If they’d had the internet then they’d have simply shot their traitor officers and gone home.
  
  And one of the rat-mens’ worst crimes was instigating and colluding in the Holocaust with both the Soviets and Himmler to sacrifice their own Jewish people in droves for Zion, and now supplant ‘the jews’ for themselves and use their brilliance as their instrument. Read about the Council of Warsaw. Read Christian Rakovsky – Trotsky’s friend. Read Ribbentrop and Molotov. Read the Soviet Jewish Bolsheviks who colluded with the Nazis prior to Barbarossa when they were ALLIES. Everyone forgets. Eurasia was indeed once allies with East Asia. That material is floating on the inter-webs. It will disappear I’m sure in time. Some of the greatest minds most aware of what was done to the victims of the wars are dissident exiled former Jewish Christian converts – what is Ron Unz? The antipathy to hostile leadership is wielded as antipathy to the whole. The most logical cognition in the world demarcated ‘mental illness’. It’s not the case. At all. What you see today is far removed from even David Ben Gurion. Antipathy is reserved for the leaders.
  
  Even that piano piece – the original movie score was approved by Donald Bluth, who was expelled from Disney because he was too sympathetic to the gentiles.
  
  Ayn Rand is another example. She was surpassingly brilliant. Her anti-Christianity notwithstanding, she saw what would be done to it. She was Jewish. Her father has his business smashed no less then four times by Bolsheviks and ‘fellow jews’. It broke him.
  
  Anyway – we live in inversion world. Our world was stolen. Now, the European Christian male is the Hebrew in the old testament. Homeless. We will have our homes back. We will have a land of our own. They’ve created Christian Zionism. The United States will be the beginning. Then the Vatican will be re-taken.
  
  It was never a matter of the oligarchy and the proletariat. Milton Friedman knew as well – you simply replace one oligarchy derived by natural lines of merit, heredity, and loyal to the soil in which they were nurtured, with another, rootless – who regard everyone as cattle. You either have intra-competition between family lines, or they compete with everyone outside themselves.
  
  I see Hoffman has been banned from Amazon – ‘the strange religion’. A very good book about the ascendant Babylonian mystery cult masquerading as related to the Bible. Another dissident exiled. Another work memory holed. I always said, someone books would burn. Ours have been burned and are already burning.
  
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  October 3, 2018 5:44pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    ⬆️Great insightful comment and great handle⬆️
    
    Welcome to Kiwiblog “Serfsup”
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:25pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

September 2018 UAH global tropospheric temperature is just 0.3°C warmer than first september in this series in 1979, 39 years ago.

That is about the same as the average annual temperature difference between Gisborne and Napier. why are you all just sitting there? The world is about to end!!
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October 3, 2018 4:25pm
- DigNap15
  
  And that is after 200 years of western industrialization.
  Millions of cars.
  
  I get so angry about the climate change idiots,
  It would be much better to concentrate on the world’s over population using all of our resources.
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:46pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The only humans can fix overpopulation is by killing people. Or via police state type measures (eg China). Both are politically impossible for the west.
    
    Nature will sort it out with massive famines and wars or possibly plagues over next 50 years through Africa and Middle East, they are the only places that have population growth problems – as a result of cultures that treat women like shit.
    
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    October 3, 2018 5:20pm
    - DigNap15
      
      No Nature won’t as we keep helping them by sending food aid and money etc.
      
      What is needed is a strict one child per women policy for four generations.
      
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      October 3, 2018 6:38pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    The so-called over-population problem is already solving itself. The clearest leading indicator or reduced birthrate is increased personal wealth, not socialism re-distributing a shrinking pie a-la Soviet era, but real wealth creation delivered by free enterprise that is enabled by structured capitalism.
    
    No birth rate policy, or wars needed. Just personal independence, thrift, effort leading to personal health and success. Leading to family health and success. Leading to societal health and success.
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:06pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      A partial answer, so long as that prosperity is achieved reasonably equally around the world. But it is still highly likely that we will continue to see large-scale population movements from areas of lower opportunity to areas of higher opportunity.
      
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      October 3, 2018 7:11pm
Wired-one

I notice there are a few critical comments about Bridges above, what I want to know is who is the answer for National, who will win us the next election?. The minute Bridges was elected people like Garner were undermining him, by goading Judith when she was on his show and also making snide comments after Bridges had appeared. Do we really want to go down the Labour path, were we change leaders every few years?. I’m not prepared to put up with a Ardern led government for multiple terms. So in my view we need to identify the leader who has the best chance of winning, and get in behind them, even if that is Simon.
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October 3, 2018 4:48pm
- nasska
  
  Regardless of the twitchy little hard-ons readers get when Judith Collin’s name is mentioned we’re due for a long stint in opposition if she takes over the reins.
  
  Mark Mitchell is the only alternative I can think of.
  
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  October 3, 2018 4:59pm
  - stigie
    
    Im with you Nasska, at least he has no baggage that we know of, also Chris Bishop is showing good signs but might be a bit early for him yet..?
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:54pm
  - niggly
    
    Yeah Mitchell does come across well in the media and has a down to earth good ol’ Kiwi sensibility and relateability about him, that a lot of people would like etc.
    
    I’m sure he’d be fine under pressure too (in all its forms as like a politician at the top would have to face)!
    
    Can’t imagine the current COL rabble doing well under similar pressure … it would be popcorn munching lols to watch play out if it weren’t for the fact that NZ as a whole would suffer!
    
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    October 3, 2018 8:12pm
Steve (North Shore)

Is Jacinda really home or does she have a clone.
Look to the right of Trump – woman in white top.
Now look to the right of Trump means look to the left for the morons ok, sorry, had to make that clear for the fucking nitpickers on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw3RpUb10qc&feature=share
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October 3, 2018 6:21pm
- Longknives
  
  That woman is far too well-dressed to be Jacinda ‘cankle boots’ Ardern…
  
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  October 3, 2018 7:48pm
DigNap15

We had this debate about Nationals leader when Bil English resigned.
A lot of people like Judith Collins because she is tough. But a lot of people don’t like her.

Strong National supporters will support anyone, but National has to appeal to the centre if it wants to govern alone. (MMP)
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October 3, 2018 6:41pm
- Wired-one
  
  Do you make her deputy leader then?
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:49pm
- brett68
  
  No numbnuts, it’s not toughness it’s cunning and intelligence and she’s got it in spades.
  
  Judith Collins has the x factor and if you want to succeed in politics you need that x factor.
  
  Compare that to Bridges, the only thing that guy has is the cringe factor.
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:52pm
- nasska
  
  I’ve supported National for nearly fifty years & if I can hold my nose & back social conservatives such as Bolger & English I’m unlikely to change now whoever is fronting up.
  
  But as you rightly state elections are decided by centrist voters & we only see one John Key per lifetime.
  
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  October 3, 2018 6:53pm
  - brett68
    
    John Key was a puss.
    
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    October 3, 2018 6:55pm
    - nasska
      
      John Key was a winner for National. If you consider him to be a puss then so be it.
      
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      October 3, 2018 6:58pm
      - brett68
        
        Yeah, he won.
        
        But if you’re honest what did he actually achieve?
        
        The CEO approach to politics really isn’t a winner
        
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        October 3, 2018 7:05pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        He won elections, but what political, social or economic changes did he lead? What is his legacy?
        
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        October 3, 2018 7:06pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Brett and mike
        The list is long of JK’s achievements
        A growing economy, when all around were falling
        Rebuild of Christchurch (a city fell down and National rebuilt it)
        Kaikoura rail and road links rebuilt inside a year, ALL marveled at it.
        Falling unemployment
        REAL relationships, benefiting NZ, with the most powerful people in the world.
        Brought RESPECT from the rest of the world back, to NZ.
        The world laughed at helen clark and ardern NOBODY even wanted to meet with them.
        Real gains, not sham that is at present
        
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        October 3, 2018 7:48pm
      - brett68
        
        As sad as this is, in 30 years time Twyford will get a bigger write up than Key.
        History will paint Key as nothing more than a National PM who surprisingly continued on and cemented in place the previous Labour governments policies of socialism and state dependance.
        
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        October 3, 2018 8:49pm
  - Longknives
    
    “But as you rightly state elections are decided by centrist voters”
    
    Last year’s Election certainly wasn’t.
    It was decided by Winston…
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:47pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Winston’s crows are a peculiar subset of centrist voters; I don’t think they could be described as left-wing or right-wing.
      
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      October 3, 2018 8:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Australia on track to eliminate cervical cancer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45727977
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October 3, 2018 7:16pm
- krazykiwi
  
  That’s good news.
  
  It is predicted to be classified as a “rare cancer” in Australia by 2022, when it should drop to less than six cases per 100,000 people.
  
  The prostate cancer reduction rate there is much slower.
  
  The current rates in Australia:
  – Females; 7 case for every 100,000 people
  – Males; 119 cases for every 100,000 people
  
  Men are, apparently, worth less. A lot less.
  
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  October 3, 2018 7:23pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    You believe that the main reason for faster progress in treating cervical cancer versus prostate cancer is bias towards women?
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:31pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      It’s part of it. Public funding for cervical cancer research has exceeded that of prostate cancer research for several decades now.
      
      Another factor is age. Men tend to die from prostate cancer quite a bit older than do women of cervical cancer. Don’t have those stats to hand, but its by quite a few years.
      
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      October 3, 2018 7:35pm
      - gump
        
        Cervical is caused by the transmission of a virus. That virus can be defeated by a vaccine.
        
        Nobody knows what causes prostate cancer. It’s hard to prevent a disease when you don’t even know what causes it. Depending on its exact cause, there might not even be a means to prevent it.
        
        That’s not a case of bias. It’s just biological reality.
        
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        October 3, 2018 8:54pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        So gump, given this ‘biological reality’ is impacting 17x more men than woman, you’d favour the reallocation of a large portion of cervical research and prevention spending to that of prostate research and prevention? If not, why not?
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:02pm
      - gump
        
        A vaccine was developed and is now in use around the world. What is left to research?
        
        You’ve asserted that public funding for cervical cancer research exceeds that of prostate cancer research but you haven’t provided a citation. If you can provide evidence for your assertion then I’d be very interested to see it.
        
        Are you sure you’re not thinking about breast cancer? It receives a significant amount of funding because it has a high prevalence and a high rate of mortality (both are higher than the corresponding rates for prostate cancer).
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:07pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        No not thinking of breast cancer. I can’t find that spend analysis. It’s possible I had it across my desk when I worked in the sector 5 years ago.
        
        I do have a long-time ob-gyn friend who’s been practicing here and in the UK for 30+ years. His view is that we spend significantly more, and unjustifiably more by outcome, on woman’s health than we do men’s health. Part of the disparity is age-related (ref above), and part of due to ‘all things woman’ being prioritised.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:16pm
    - nasska
      
      Of course it is…..mixed possibly with some antagonism towards men.
      
      Otherwise both cancer rates would be in the vicinity of 50/50, men vs women.
      
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      October 3, 2018 7:35pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Men are, apparently, worth less. A lot less.
    
    2 different types of disease.
    
    The key to clearing up Cervical Cancer has been the HPV vaccine. – as most (nearly all) cervical cancers develop from infection by some Human Papilloma Viruses.
    
    Prostate Cancer seems more complicated…. doesn’t seem to result from a viral infection.
    
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    October 3, 2018 7:36pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Agree re complexity. On that basis, and given the much higher rates of prostate cancer (17 times!), large amount of public spending on disease prevention should be transferred from cervical research to prostate research.
      
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      October 3, 2018 7:43pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        If only real-life problems were actually as simple as the simple-minded like to imagine.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:00pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Oh, it’s quite simple. Let me spell it out for you milky:
        
        1. We spend too much on cervical cancer research and prevention, and;
        
        2. We spend too little on prostate cancer research and prevention, and;
        
        3. Fixing this imbalance is really, really simple.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:04pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        But, as I said, it’s not as simple as the simple-minded imagine. You would need to calculate the BCR for the expenditure on each type of cancer versus the incidence. It is not necessarily the case that spending 17 times more on prostate cancer research would result in the incidence of that type of cancer reducing to the same rate as that of cervical cancer, or even at all.
        You seem to have made the childish assumption that the more is spent on something, the better the results. On that basis, you should be applauding the Greens’ policy for a massive increase in welfare benefits.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:28pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        milky, I’m not one for making childish assumptions, but go ahead and believe that if it absolves you of developing a logical stream of thinking here. I just think one disease that has 17x prevalence relative to another should get re-prioritised. Resolving the disparity might be rocket science, but making the decision to resolve the disparity most certainly isn’t.
        
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        October 3, 2018 9:57pm
Don the Kiwi

World-renowned Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli has just released an extraordinary music video performed with his son, 21-year-old Matteo.

“Anyone who is a parent, anyone who knows the precious responsibility of being a mother or a father, will fully grasp the meaning of this piece,” said Bocelli. “‘Fall On Me’ is the first time I have duetted with my son Matteo Bocelli.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChcR2gKt5WM
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October 3, 2018 7:43pm
EAD_TWO

Serfsup in his 2.44pm post bought Kiwiblogs attention to the goings on in Ireland and of their traitorous homosexual Indian Prime Minister Leo Varadrker.

Varadrker is at it again today proclaiming Immigrants ‘more likely’ to work and pay tax than average Irish person

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/immigrants-more-likely-to-be-working-and-paying-tax-than-average-irish-person-says-varadkar-1.3649457?mode=amp

There you have it Irish folk. All those hard working, working class families through the generations that made Ireland what it is are nothing compared to the hero worshipped gimme-grants.

The day of the rope can’t come soon enough.
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October 3, 2018 7:54pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  It’s interesting to note that for a rootless globalist like Vardeker, the only important thing to him is the shekels in the tax shakedown.
  
  Very revealing in multiple ways.
  
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  October 3, 2018 8:55pm
- fernglas
  
  But EAD, that is something that has been said in the UK as well, based on analysis models and research and is as likely to be true as anything in this world. Should he not say so? Is this a bit like the physics professor who got scked for pointing out, truthfully, that men had contributed more to physics than women? Are you a me-too guy?
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:22pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    @ fernglass,
    
    There are lies, damn lies and statistics.
    
    Immigrants are almost exclusively of working age. Children born to those immigrants (i.e. 2nd generations) will be classed as “Irish”.
    
    Few of the 1st generation will have been in Ireland long enough to reach pension age.
    
    If you compared working age immigrants with working age Irishmen I expect the picture would be very different.
    
    This carefully calculated and phrased insult to the Irish is the kind of bullshit that can get you a Nike promotions contract if you stick at it.
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:36pm
    - fernglas
      
      The UK study controlled for all those variables, and still found that the migrants were doing better. I’m sure the US has had the same experience with its successive waves of immigration. Same with kiwis in Australia. It’s not an insult to the host country but a compliment to the new arrivals.
      
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      October 3, 2018 9:49pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        I think you’re taking the piss fernglass?
        
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        October 3, 2018 10:05pm
Fletch

Ted Coppel says CNN’s ratings would be in the toilet without Donald Trump, and Brian Stelter can’t take it lol

https://twitter.com/BrentHBaker/status/1047287106865979392/video/1
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October 3, 2018 8:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Donald J Trump is a great entertainment product; no one doubts that. Serial huckster, fraudster, sexual deviant, bankrupt, liar, and, above all, shameless self-promoter, he is the perfect emblem of America’s decline and fall.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:04pm
  - GoVege
    
    But he’s got a VERY big brain MM!! 🙂
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:48pm
Manolo

A strong Dow:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/us-markets-fed-remarks-and-trade-deal-in-focus.html

The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a record high on Tuesday as it rallied for a second day, boosted by gains in Intel and optimism around global trade.

The 30-stock index closed 122.73 points higher to 26,773.94 for its first record close since Sept. 21. Intel climbed more than 3.5%, while Boeing soared to an all-time high. These gains added to the 192-point pop in the Dow on Monday to start the fourth quarter.
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October 3, 2018 9:01pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, the dow has closed at record numbers 100 times since Trump took office.
  
  https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/dow-jones-record-donald-trump/
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:35pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Is the Dow a reliable indicator of presidential performance?
    
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    October 3, 2018 9:39pm
    - starboard
      
      Yes.
      
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      October 4, 2018 2:47am
starboard

Heh..that puts mm’s ramble in the shithouse
bawhahaha…fool.
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October 3, 2018 9:32pm
- fernglas
  
  The two aren’t necessarily inconsistent, starboard. Trump may well be all those things, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t also largely responsible for an economic resurgence in his country that has surpassed all expectations. America may be in a moral decline, but not necessarily a fiscal one, and in any event, one person’s moral decline is likely to be another’s return to sanity. It’s the same with Kavanaugh; he doesn’t sound like the best lawyer in town, and to be frank, he comes across as a bit of a drongo, but that is irrelevant if he delivers the results. In an increasingly complex world, it is hard to find integrity and competence in the same person, and certainly where you are at the sharp end of the chisel, with the Presidency and the Supreme Court both expected to deliver partisan outcomes, it is well nigh impossible. Hence the move away from globalism and liberalism. It’s just too hard.
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:42pm
stigie

Im sure he’s missing his mum starboard, give her back !~
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October 3, 2018 9:46pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stigie:
  
  If you enlarge the glory hole, then she’ll be able to squeeze through?
  
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  October 3, 2018 9:47pm
- starboard
  
  With pleasure, she doesn’t STFU.
  
  Like mama, like son eh.
  
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