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KiWombat

Time to post this again –

Eugenie Sage met with either a man from the EPA or a woman from the Ministry for Environment – not sure which – she should have gone to Specsavers !

Sage didn’t really blame the Overseas Investment Act for signing away rights to water, that was just a misunderstanding which was cleared up as soon as she read her copy of the act –

And did she really mean to refer to hunters opposing her tahr cull as “cunters?” Spose she must have, there was never an apology –

Sage couldn’t blame John Key for the sale of Mount White station to a Czech National – It was her signature on the OIO documents –

Acting PM WeeWinnie didn’t really select a NZ First Minister to be responsible for the inquiry into former NZ First candidate Wally Haumaha’s selection as deputy police commissioner, and then appoint one of Haumaha’s “bro’s” to head that inquiry – they just drew the names from the hat in the wrong order –

Tracey Martin didn’t really claim that Kingi had vouched for Haumana 16 years ago on LinkedIn, 10 years before that LinkedIn function had even been invented – the “teen” was just a slip of the tongue – again –

Clare Curran didn’t arrange a meeting, that was just another unfortunate misunderstanding –

– neither did she warn anybody away from attending a Parliamentary Select Committee – that was just an unfortunate misinterpretation –

– nor was she involved in a committee that she established not keeping minutes because they could be OIA’d – another misconstruction of the facts –

– nor did she secretly hire Derek Handley as chief technology officer, and force the Government into paying out $107,000 to him whilst they did a re-think –

– and of course she didn’t really use her gmail account to keep information out of the public domain, she was always intending to make that public as soon as Melissa Lee found out about it –

WeeWinnie didn’t attempt to sue Bill English & Co – the media misinterpreted that as well –

Cindy didn’t mean to say “A true mark of leadership is whether you front those mistakes“:- the camera was inadvertently rolling at the time –

Cindy’s candidate for Northcote didn’t really claim to have earned an MBA, its just that his social media page forgot to mention that MBA actually stood for “Mega Bullshit Artist” –

Cindy wasn’t solely responsible for burning 80,000kg of jet fuel so that she could get home in time to give the baybeee an evening meal, that plane just happened to be passing Nauru anyway –

Cindy’s diary secretary Gay-ford didn’t really defend her cancelling appearances on two weekend current affairs programmes, he just knew better what he had forgotten to put in mummy’s diary –

– and Cindy didn’t mean to be deliberately misleading by not mentioning she had already received Clare Curran’s resignation, she just hadn’t had sufficient time to get the spin doctors onto that story before going public –

David Clark didn’t try to bribe a DHB Chairman, he was just being nice offering him alternate employment – and quickly if he kept his mouth shut –

David Clark also didn’t really go on an overseas holiday the day before the nurses strike began, he just had to attend to a “secret mission” that coincidentally included the wife and kids –

Ron Mark didn’t misuse military aircraft, they just happened to be misguidedly passing his back porch –

Tracey Martin didn’t deliberately avoid a meeting she had called with the 15 Oranga Tamariki CRF chairs, she had a “senior moment” that morning and forgot which hat she needed to put on –

The government didn’t really try to short circuit the law for one of David Parker’s workmates, it was supposed to be koha for the local iwi –

Angry Andy didn’t miscalculate the spending on his Criminal Justice Summit, it just happened that nobody told him that the “decadent gluten free chocolate brownie, pork apricot & thyme pastries and luxury pies were going to add $750,000 to the bill –

and as for the $20,000+ temporary registration desk, can only wish Andy had phoned me for that, sure I could have managed to supply that complete with bikini clad clerks for half the price –

Labour didn’t supply booze to underage children, their caterer just made an unfortunate miscalculation –

Meka Fightery didn’t really lay hands on one of her staff, she was just gesticulating wildly in her office when somebody’s face got in the way – again –

JAG didn’t mean to be nasty about old white men – we just got all confused about her terminology – after all there’s probably an “old white man” at the helm of her daily flight to work, isn’t there ?

We didn’t really cancel oil and gas exploration – it’s just that we have found an ample supply of hot air in Wellington to compensate –

Shame Jones was told his project feasibility study was a waste of money, but he unfortunately misread that and carried on regardless –

Jenny Marcroft didn’t attempt to bribe Mark Mitchell, Mitchell became confused and misunderstood what she said –

Cindy didn’t promise “no strikes on my watch” – that was just misreporting by TVNZ and should have been edited out –

Similarly – she didn’t mean to say “no new taxes under Labour – but then the fuel taxes are mostly being applied by Councils anyway –

Nobody put their hand down a kiddies pants at the Labour Youth Camp, somebody was just brushing the ants off their tush – another unfortunate misunderstanding –

Twitford didn’t promise us 100,000 extra affordable new family homes – then have to re-define the term “year” – just another unfortunate miscalculation –

Look out for Twitford re-defining the term “family home” in coming months, as much of the Kiwibuild product seems to be bedsits and 1br apartments –

Likewise, Twitford was just suffering brain fade when he telephoned his staff from an aircraft, then stood and moved around the aircraft whilst it was taxi-ing – the witness just misunderstood what he saw –

Shame Jones didn’t really promise 100,000,000 trees per year, this was an unfortunate misassessment, and in any case he couldn’t control the Autumn from hell –

Paul Eagle didn’t attempt to bribe his local panel beater into committing insurance fraud – the poor panel beater unfortunately suffers from mistaken belief syndrome –

and just when you think it can’t possibly get any worse, we introduce to you a Minister of Immigration who grants residency to a criminal illegal immigrant, currently in jail for drug smuggling –

This agglomeration of misfits, misunderstandings, false impressions, misreadings, miscalculations, mistaken beliefs, slips of the tongue, misinterpretations, fuck ups, errors and mix-ups is beginning to get somewhat tedious. The time has come for one or two heads to roll.

Cindy – lets do this !
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October 31, 2018 8:01am
- hullkiwi
  
  KiWombat, great list. Only one year in, after 3 years it’ll be as big as the annual statistic yearbook.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:19am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’ll be longer than a John Stringer archeology post 😉
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:33am
    - Biscuit
      
      Ouch, Keeping Stock!
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:39am
  - Harkman
    
    Hullkiwi the annual stat book is now biannual and it is filled with glossy pics of minority groups at “community support” events. The books from the 1920s have more stats than now. ?
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:49am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Thx Harkman, I’m old and can remember them as yearly, when they were as fat as the Aucmland telephone directory without lots of gloss photos.
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:45pm
      - Harkman
        
        Yes they were way better back in the day.
        
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        October 31, 2018 4:24pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Right Harkman what a shame there is no more Government Print to produce that so dependable Year Book in any format. The original small font made it able to be small enough to be bound into a single volume.
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:31pm
- Colinxy
  
  This needs to be a prepared format for the 2020 election!
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:54am
Paulus Gnome

Appears the latest Labour Party donation has been made by a bad travelling chezc

(for those who remember such things)
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October 31, 2018 8:02am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Let not let the Chezc matter die. We have to keep it going. We know the enemy read KB so we need to keep reminding them its still a “live” issue and wont be going away until we get the “truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them God” ( thought that last bit about God was apropos given the Godless bunch of arseholes that infest the HORs)
  Come on Sleeze fess up and tell me who you are protecting. I’ll find out at some point and you and your lot will be like Richard Milhouse Nixon ( remember Tricky Dicky waving from the door of the helicopter as he left the White House lawn for the last time).
  
  I cant wait to see Cindy and her corrupt bunch of arseholes get smacked on the bum by the door as they leave.
  
  Keep up the pressure KBer IMHO this issue is the ONE. There is no way their lies so far stack up.
  
  In fact their lies have been fact checked and are bullshit. None of them have any credibility.
  
  They are insulting to anyone with a brain. Only the permanently moronic Labour supporters would swallow these lies.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:22am
  - michael_s2
    
    Could Lees-Galloway’s reason for granting residency to the Czech drug importer relate to the Czech’s clients?
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:09am
Maxx

I for one welcome the new thinking that I can choose my gender, something that is genetically encoded into me, based on how I feel. I’m looking forward to seeing a sweet grant come up for Maori. I will identify with being Maori to qualify for it. After that, if I choose to climb Ayers Rock, I will identify as being an aboriginal to be able to qualify for that. I also don’t identify with my age as many days I feel a lot older, so I will start to claim my superannuation. But of course we shouldn’t let genetics get in the way. I will no identify with being of European Citizenship to get myself a passport.
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October 31, 2018 8:02am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I identify as a maori lesbian with a disability which covers most of the spectrum to gain maximum advantage.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:05am
  - Tall Man
    
    With a disability….
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:13am
  - Maxx
    
    You should be on a board of directors. 300% boost to diversity!
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:54am
- Tall Man
  
  Good plan, however…
  
  At Otago prior to a medical entry exam, they had a maori only tutorial to “assist” maori to pass said exam.
  
  My son, being an enterprising young lad, decided to seek assistance for the upcoming exam and presented himself for the tutorial. Iwi and Hapu please were the identification required for entry so while you can pop yourself onto the maori roll if you “feel” maori, you need a little more to actually get anything.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:08am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    What about Urban Maori with no known iwi or hapu? What about ones who know they have some Maori ancestry but there was no marriage to prove it?
    
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    October 31, 2018 1:31pm
- peterwn
  
  You might be eligible for a Paddy Passport. Many people in NZ are if they have a grandparent born in Ireland (including Northern Ireland). The Irish citizenship office and passport office are apparently overwhelmed with applications at present because of Brexit.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:27am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Wales? Cornwall?
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:06am
  - kowtow
    
    The Micks were also overwhelmed by chancers so changed the rules by a decisive vote in referendum ( migration matters , funny how we heard so little of it at the time)
    
    Anyway , the people signing this petition should have been careful what they voted for at the time . People want to have their cake and eat it.
    
    “But the Irish government is planning to deport the nine-year-old to China in a move which has provoked a storm of controversy on the Emerald Isle and seen more than 50,000 people sign a petition calling for him to be allowed to stay in the land of his birth.
    
    Eric was born in Dublin in 2009 and goes to primary school in Bray, County Wicklow, a coastal town about 20km (12 miles) south of the capital that has earned the nickname “Bray-jing” due to its substantial Chinese community.
    
    But Eric was not entitled to Irish citizenship because of a 2004 change in the law which ended the automatic right of babies born in Ireland to claim citizenship unless one of the parents was an Irish citizen.”
    
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2170498/campaign-ireland-halt-deportation-dublin-born-schoolboy-eric-zhi-china
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:02am
    - peterwn
      
      NZ and other countries have similar laws since some expectant mothers were ‘visiting’ desirable countries on visitors permits/ visas to have their child – with a double whammy of citizenship for the child and having maternity costs met. In the Irish case it would have depended on the parents’ circumstances too.
      At the time of the NZ law change it was accepted that the law would not operate so that a child would be ‘stateless’.
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:47pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The nonsense has to stop.
  
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  October 31, 2018 12:20pm
Tall Man

Let’s see if a single labour intern pops up today supporting the Kiwibuild result.

Bet they don’t, just attack National for being such a great Government 😉
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October 31, 2018 8:02am
- holysheet
  
  It’s not that National were a great Govt, more like we are seeing how such a shitty one operates.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:15am
- VicParking
  
  The Trolls will be a bit late starting this morning as Fraser House has to have an Earthquake Check,
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:34am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

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Salaam Kiwibloggers.

May Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Gracious, bless you with goodness.
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October 31, 2018 8:07am
- dave_c_
  
  In your case – ‘Goodness’ is a euphemism for something else here !
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:13am
- Tall Man
  
  And may he smile upon you as you seek sexual gratification from a baby….
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:14am
  - I've been to Mecca and you have not!
    
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    Twit.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:19am
    - Tall Man
      
      “Twit”…I’m mortified!
      
      “Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:
      
      A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. ”
      
      Read this and then piss off. Paedophilia is abhorrent and the promulgating of it is also an offense. Therefore, Islam is offensive as are you.
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:56am
      - Morrissey
        
        Did somebody say “paedophilia”?
        
        http://media.beam.usnews.com/1d/47/d7f5a173446899808909a5efb751/170202-donaldtrump-editorial.jpg
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:23pm
    - Johnboy
      
      The only religious conundrum we have with your faith Mecca old chap is once you got there why the fuck didn’t you stay in bloody Mecca? 🙂
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:29pm
  - igm
    
    Don’t forget baby goats (kids the preferred noun) and camels!
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:35am
    - noskire
      
      Camels are known as ships of the desert because they are full of Arab se(a)men.
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:13am
- KevOB
  
  Take your false god elsewhere.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:20am
- peterwn
  
  Shalom
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:29am
- hullkiwi
  
  Have you been with sepicboy’s goat?
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:32am
- VicParking
  
  The Prophet Muhammad and bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves. What a Most Gracious and bested man
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:40am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    And murdered, stole, tortured, raped and committed genocide (of Jews). An evil man.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:51am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Thank you , and may a 1,000 Mormons find your front door.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:45am
- kowtow
  
  Or with a pack rape.
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6332485/500-march-German-town-7-Syrian-migrants-arrested-gang-rape-18-year-old-student.html
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:05am
Tarquin North

I see Winston is backing the decision to let the drug dealing gang associate stay in the country. No surprises there and just another reason not to vote for NZF – in case you needed one.
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October 31, 2018 8:07am
- Longknives
  
  What was Winston’s reasoning behind this?
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:10am
  - igm
    
    Longknives:
    More Baubles!
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:24am
- srylands
  
  When this guy gets out of prison it is simply a matter of time before he offends. His name is now notorious. He is unemployable in New Zealand. So it is lifetime on a benefit, or up to no good, or pack up and go home. Those will be his stark choices.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:11am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And it now seems that he’s not in any danger back in the Czech Republic as he’s already been back there.
    Oh dear, this case is getting really smelly.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:28am
    - igm
      
      Czechs have an extradition order out for him.
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:37am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      Like I keep saying Captain Sleeze and the rest of them are protecting at least one or more “People in High Places”.
      
      Think about it. The guys a drug dealer. He has customers. He will have kept records names dates places quantities prices etc. All in the Little Black Book. He gets done. Its explained to him that to let him off this time wont work like Judge Roy Wade did ( the Judge would be have acting for the same reasons the lawyer having shown the good Judge the Little Black Book) so he has to do some porridge but in return he will be given PR when he comes out.
      
      The other problem is the pesky Parole Board cant be nobbled as its members are for once all straight up and down so no chance of a quick release.
      
      So Sleeze will have told the lawyer Mate the best I can do is PR when hes released and the lawyers said OK better than nothing.
      
      That how this has gone down. And until I hear a verified alternate version that’s how it is.
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:34am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        The decision by Lees-Galloway and his outright refusal to give a reason is staggering.
        About as staggering as the Police Commissioner’s public hosing down of the rumours about an enquiry into a certain fisherman.
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:57am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Well, Cindy did tell us to read between the lines, and that’s a good attempt.
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:58am
  - Paulus
    
    He will change his name again – so there.
    He can then claim to be Maori after all.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:34am
srylands

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/108205676/cafe-owners-face-going-broke-over-councils-ridiculous-12-chair-limit

Why do we put up with this rubbish?
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October 31, 2018 8:07am
- KevOB
  
  Suggest they try bean bags or something other than chairs.
  
  Fight excess regulatory enthusiasm by looking very carefully at what the exact wording is and go to the boundaries. Statutory limits rule when opposed to official desires.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:29am
- peterwn
  
  The main lesson here is you do due diligence when buying a property or business including ensuring that the appropriate resource consents are in place.
  It would be extremely burdensome on the Council if they had to regularly check if every resource consent was complied with. However they are required to act on complaints (Bill of Rights 1688(UK) which is part of NZ law forbids the suspending of laws by regal authority and the Council is regal for this purpose). The complainant probably submitted against the original consent application and the 12+12 chairs was a compromise decision.
  Of course the vendor is going to claim ignorance whether a consent was in place or not. If he admitted he knew about the consent, he faces being sued by the purchasers.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:50am
- Chris R
  
  srylands:The real dirt in this is not the pettiness of the Council idiots but the ability for another party to make a complaint. The RMA and the LGA allow parties who are barely affected by neighbourhood activity to object to the actvities of others. The motivation of the complainants may well be solely monetary or vindictiveness, neither of which are legitimate grounds under the above statutes yet Council “Hitlers” apply them with relish or even malice!
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:35am
  - peterwn
    
    See my earlier comment. The Council cannot ignore complaints of RMA or consent breaches, since any aggrieved person could take it to the Environment Court. Similar with covenants on titles. While the Council is not concerned with these, anyone who ‘benefits’ from a covenant (generally someone living in the same ‘estate’) can apply to the Court to have a covenant enforced and the court will, including costs and possibly damages against the breacher. Covenants were an early form of town planning and were placed on land titles by the developer to increase the desirability of the estate/ subdivision.
    
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    October 31, 2018 12:58pm
    - KevOB
      
      That’s the rule of officialdom and lawfare. What about respect for justice and law. If it’s not in the Act does it really apply? That should be the test. This fringe area of regulatory control seems to be governed by costs and fear.
      
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      October 31, 2018 6:08pm
      - peterwn
        
        The RMA sets out processes to balance conflicting rights of land owners and those affected by the exercise of such rights. Councils have a duty to carry out the prescribed duties and functions specified in the RMA including enforcement. Councils are not infrequently caught between a rock and a hard place since their decisions and actions are subject to appeal to the Environment Court right up to the Supreme Court with ‘Forest & Bird’ being particularly aggressive in this regard.
        Although the use and effects of covenants AFAIK, it is part of the base of common law, that is British judges from way back decided they were enforceble and these decisions if made before 1852 are binding on NZ courts. The NZ Parliament is at liberty to pass legislation concerning covenants and this would partially or completely replace common law on this matter. The main change for NZ is a covenant needs to be registered on a land Certificate of Title to be effective, this being a requirement right back to when Torrens introduced the original land title system legislation in South Australia, a system we take for granted today.
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:51pm
Longknives

So I heard the guy on the Radio laughing his head off about Jacinda and Clark giving Prince Harry and Meghan a Shapeshifter CD as a present.
I laughed as well- Assuming it was a joke.
Nobody would be that cheap, tacky and downright cringeworthy (Longknives naturally thought..)
Except our Cindy- Turns out it’s true!
The Prime Minister of New Zealand gave the Royal family a fucking shitty bargain bin CD as a welcome gift!
I suppose it could have been worse- She could have given Meghan some of those daggy cankle shoes she wears every day..
My God this dreadful woman is a National embarrassment..
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October 31, 2018 8:07am
- Poppa
  
  Don’t be too harsh LK she is just a child & has no understanding.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:13am
  - igm
    
    She is not a child, just acts like one . . . she is a real harridan right through!
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:26am
  - waikatogirl
    
    She has no class. All pretence and no substance. I’m sure Harry wasn’t surprised and it confirmed what he already suspected – he’d be very aware and good at identifying insincerity from those he has to meet.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:32am
    - Harkman
      
      Isn’t she pathetic? It was bad enough up to yesterday, then last night she was within a foot of Meghan at every opportunity. She is just a fake, attention seeking rash. It would be vaguely justifiable if Harry was an important head of state but really he and his wife are international celebrities and Cindy wants some of that spotlight.
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:56am
- cmm
  
  It doesn’t quite top Merkel’s stuffed kiwi, but it is close.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:25am
  - igm
    
    All Kiwis are stuffed with this CoL fucking the country!
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:26am
  - Biscuit
    
    cmm, can you just imagine Angela, at the end of a hard day governing Europe, going home, kicking her shoes off, lounging back in her sofa with a glass of Müller-Thurgau, and gazing up adoringly at the framed stuffed kiwi she has on her wall…
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:45am
  - peterwn
    
    Reminds me of the two silver Kiwis the NZ Government gave Princess Margaret as a wedding present which was met with some derision at the time. They were probably in storage most of the time until sold by auction for several hundred quid in 2008 – the money went to charity. No idea whether they still exist or were melted down. I cannot find any pictures of them on the Web.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:05am
    - Biscuit
      
      peterwyn, your need to do a quick remedial course in Searching.101, heh heh.
      
      I typed in ‘Princess Margaret silver kiwis’ and quickly came up with this:
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10386673
      
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      October 31, 2018 11:49am
      - Biscuit
        
        Mind, my Typing.101 course needs to follow just as quickly.
        
        Pray read ‘your’ as ‘you’ up there.
        
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        October 31, 2018 11:50am
      - peterwn
        
        I was looking at Google images and there was nothing there. I found a 2008 Daily Mail article concerning the sale and Her Majesty saying that the proceeds of the sale of such gifts should go to charity and not to the deceased person’s estate (the proceeds went to the Stroke Foundation). Interesting that they fetched 36,000 quid whereas the auctioneer’s estimate was 600 quid.
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:05pm
- KevOB
  
  …this dreadful woman is a ~~National~~ COL embarrassment
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:32am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Well our PM certainly wasn’t trying to outshine Meghan in that Green skirt, what was with that? I thought one of the cocktail dresses Jacinda wore was okay though.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:14am
- Komata
  
  No Longknives, she is LABOUR / COL embarrasment, not ‘National. The Nats tend to have more class, and awareness of what is appropriate..
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:40am
  - sam green
    
    “The Nats tend to have more class, and awareness of what is appropriate..”
    
    Yes. Evidenced by the shenanigans of the last three weeks ( well obviously longer – since well before 2014 – evidenced by the emails of Slater et al). Such class.
    
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    October 31, 2018 12:56pm
- oldgolfer
  
  Lower case n needed, I think, in last line.
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:37am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  They’ll re-gift it to Charles so he can dangle it in the garden to keep the birds off his strawberries.
  
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  October 31, 2018 1:52pm
secondcumming

😛 *HALLOWEEN* 😛

My brother in-law’s a car dealer in Queensland.
He’s come up with a brilliant idea to deter those pesky little ‘Trick or Treaters’ tonite……

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dpe4fc2XgAA61zR.jpg
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October 31, 2018 8:08am
- dave_c_
  
  Bloody awesome ! Someone with balls – We need more straight talkers like this in this country.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:15am
- VicParking
  
  Lock my gate and let the dog out.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:44am
  - Lance
    
    In the words of Mr Burns
    
    “Release the hounds”
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:26am
Lee C

We should have a ‘Socialism for the wealthy’ awards on the side bar.
I nominate:
Third: Middle class students for fees-free first year.
Second: Middle-class couple get house.
First: Alison Mau for a cool free trip and weekend overseas and $17,000 for one day’s work.
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October 31, 2018 8:10am
- Longknives
  
  A 37 year old woman with a Bachelor of Communications and NO applicable work history lands herself a job where she works part time from home and earns $500k + perks?
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:12am
  - cmm
    
    That’s international hall-of-fame stuff. Up there with murderer/rapist Che and co.
    
    Just giving the PriNZess first prize would not be a true recognition of her achievements.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:24am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Taking part trophies for everyone! ?
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:38am
- fernglas
  
  4th middle class couple get light rail past their front door so they can get to Wellington more easily
  5th middle class couple get free shit for having a child
  6th middle class couple get their family home exempted from capital gains tax
  
  Good luck to those in Otara, and renting a home, who voted for the Labour party, thinking it represented the working class.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:37am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Good luck indeed.
    Time to point out, that they paid for this abomination.
    VIA
    their petrol taxes
    RUC’s
    and other sundry taxes.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:54am
- Harkman
  
  Or “Ministerial Jobs” for unemployable leftwing activists.
  
  BTW what’s this about Mau?
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:00am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Alison Mau’s payment for MCing at the Justice Summit
    
    Total bill and expenditure for Government’s Criminal Justice Summit revealed
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12132960
    
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    October 31, 2018 11:06am
RW Capitalist

I see Tova O’Brien went to parliament this morning to take a “Straw poll” of politicians, on how they will vote in the up coming abortion debate.
NOBODY talked to her, she claimed “they are keeping it close to their chests”
Really???
OR
After the JLR saga, and the blatant hit job you tried on Simon Bridges and FAILED.
You are now poison and NOBODY wants to talk to you?
We will see, when the next issue comes up.
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October 31, 2018 8:11am
- Inandout
  
  She is a liability and most likely wired.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus
  
  She might actually be one of the issues to be revealed.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:37am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Indeed; did she get her stories/sources by using her feminine wiles? She wouldn’t be the first such journalist…
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:51am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Because there is always one dumb guy who uses his dick for thinking.
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:21am
Im Right

Thought for the day…..I have just watched the Vodafone advert where the mother is in the car, stationary in a car park pretending she is stuck in traffic whilst she watches her TV show on her cell phone eating a muffin. How many complaints do you think would the advert receive if the roles were reversed and it was dad in the car?….how about the advert with the school girl getting flattened in a rugby tackle then hitting the guy with a plastic rubbish bin, how would that pan out if the roles reversed? I’m not upset at these adverts, just curious how advertisers, in this feminist/PC world, now have to promote their products that no-one is offended….and that’s a bloody high tightrope to walk with no safety net! :)…..any other adverts where the role reversal would have marching in the streets?
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October 31, 2018 8:11am
- VicParking
  
  What about the Man who lets his aged mother go on holiday overseas and leave her ‘New’ car parked in the drive when she has a double Garage.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:49am
- SJ Actual
  
  Wife mentioned that add too. She was very unimpressed with how it portrays women.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:08am
holysheet

Winston’s psychologist offered some advice…
“The key to happiness and inner peace is to finish what you’ve started”.
He’s nearly at the bottom of his bottle of whisky and has taken all his antidepressants.
He then says “I think she’s right, I feel amazing!”
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October 31, 2018 8:12am
hullkiwi

Morning all.

The last couple of nights Mrs HK has had to hold me back from wanting to throw something at the TV. The cause of my anger…2 adverts that are running on the TV.

The first, a government paid ad about biosecurity and looking after our environment. It features an elderly Maori woman sitting in an arm chair prattling on about looking after NZ for our children and grandchildren etc. Sorry but, the portrayal of Maori as guardians of NZ’s environment is offensive and disingenuous, because it was the Maori who were NZ’s first eco terrorist, wiping out the moa and the NZ eagle before the white man even arrived!

Then the 2nd ad featuring Kevin Hague on behalf of Forest & Bird (or twig & tweet). Hague is trying to drum up support with a bunch of well placed photos with a narrative of half truths.

My gripe is, who is checking these ads and ensuring half truths & propaganda mascarading as fact is not being put into our media before one even needs to complain to Advertising Standards?
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October 31, 2018 8:15am
- cmm
  
  Best approach, IMHO, is to just turn this shit off.
  
  Don’t give them your eyeballs.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:19am
  - itstricky
    
    With the unexpected side benefit of halving the number of “comments” in GD.
    
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    October 31, 2018 1:26pm
- Im Right
  
  Ohhhh Hullkiwi, you are NOT ALLOWED to mention anything bad that Maori may have done in the distant past as that is blurred in the fog of time and oral history within Maoridom….although in the same vein that fog and time seems to have lifted when the same oral history is recounted when applying for a treaty claim, seems they can recall almost every happening on every day back to 1840, but I’m sorry those big bird things are lost in time and should be forgotten!, also cannibalism and keeping of slaves is sketchy and indeed lost in history it seems.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Pacific Island folk were responsible for the extinction of about 1300 bird species as they moved across the Pacific laying waste to each island’s biodiversity .
  Pacific settlement caused mass bird extinction
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10873956
  
  First Polynesian settlers here killed off:
  9 Moa species, World’s largest eagle, NZ pelican, flightless goose, adzebill, 6+ species of duck, NZ swan, NZ goshawk, snipe-rail, giant coot, a waterhen, giant owlet, NZ raven, 2 kinds of forest wren, 3 species of frog, at least 3species of lizard.
  
  https://newzealandecology.org/nzje/1856.pdf
  
  They also burnt off most of the east-coast forests in the North & South Islands.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/107363683/evidence-from-the-shortdrop-polynesians-set-many-fires
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    The Maori had a carbohydrate shortage in NZ.　(Kumara doesn’t grow everywhere, and is not that hardy.)
    The inhabitants of Easter Island wrecked their ecosystem which caused their population to crash. Would Maori have eventually done the same thing?
    
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    October 31, 2018 12:25pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Maggy thanks. As Im Right points out we should wash our mouths out for daring to suggest our Maori countrymen were less than good conservationists pre-1840.
    
    What has happened to the world when the truth is inconvenient & PC/propaganda is peddled daily as though it is fact? Continue in this vein and we will continue to go nowhere, but sink into the morass of stupidity.
    
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    October 31, 2018 1:03pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There isn’t any group of humans that hasn’t caused mayhem to island ecosystems when they first set foot in/on them.
      
      Crikey, even the Amazon rainforest has had 8000 years of human slash and burn reconfiguring its ecosystems.
      
      https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/its-now-clear-that-ancient-humans-helped-enrich-the-amazon/518439/
      
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      October 31, 2018 2:32pm
stoptheboats

Wheres Kashoggi body? well have a look at the Saudi flag and see the violent religion advertising its weapons.

Are the Nats going to let their women MP get away with inciting suicide?
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October 31, 2018 8:17am
- Keeping Stock
  
  If you, in a fit of anger, have never wished someone dead, you’re a better man than I am Gunga Din, and I suspect, a better man than 95% of the population.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:40am
Inandout

When there is a tragedy it is called Mt Cook.
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October 31, 2018 8:19am
- VicParking
  
  Brilliant. Sums up NZ
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:59am
oldpark

Heard the “holier than thou” Foxy Peters putting the boot into Judith Collins for telling the truth about the Kiwibuild fiasco. NZs number one hypocrite Peters with a track record of lies rumours obfuscation and chaos has the gall to even comment on Judith Collins.
Megalomaniac Peters is out to create a smokescreen over the mad dog decisions of the type of losers he chose to be the Government of NZ.
Peters the architect of such a decision now can see NZs well being and way of life of is being slowly destroyed.
With recent decisions like the one to cancel all oil and gas exploration was just a start.
Amongst many other harebrained decisions ,the latest one seems to have been sanctioned by Peters .
Him being the architect of the present gang of amateuers in charge of the Treasury benches . Not forgetting back street union delegate Lees-Galloway now masquerading as an Immigration Minister allowing a convicted drug boss called ‘Karel Sroubek’ who should never have been in NZ given a free pass in fact amnesty to reside in NZ Permanently .
Maybe just for once Peters in his Forty Years in Parliament ,should do something useful,and change his support for keeping the Drug Runner Karel Sroubek in NZ.We wont hold our breath.
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October 31, 2018 8:20am
- Paulus
  
  Susi Fergusson was on RNZ saying that Collins would not appear, so she had a so called PR woman specialist, and between them they viciously took Collins to the cleaners.
  Because she would not appear.
  Wow, how women hate other women obviously
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:41am
  - oldgolfer
    
    And the PR woman had already been on Twitter having a go at Collins.
    Talk about steer the news in the direction of your choosing.
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:39am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Well….Collins cleverly baited the water.
  Now all the sharks are feeding on the BAIT and not Collins, she is standing on the boat, allowing you to see how vicious and irrational they really are.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:49am
- Prince
  
  Just remember Peters’ visceral hatred of all things National when the next election comes around and he pretends to be neutral about who he will support, trying to scratch up 5% of the vote.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:20am
Happychappy

So what are the voters of Winston First going to say or do with this decision to allow a carreer criminal to have NZ citizenship after committing serious crimes in NZ and in his home country. These supporters of Winston have always considered Law and 0rder as one of the requirements for their vote and now Winston is backing the Coalitions Minister and his decision. Come on Winston the public of NZ need you to show some balls and let people know why you support this dangerous decision.
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October 31, 2018 8:21am
- waikatogirl
  
  It will all be forgotten by NZF voters once Winston sincerely reminds them during the election cycle of what his policies are for 2020. You know the ones, immigration and tough on crime. ?
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:49am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And the Maori seats.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:28am
    - Komata
      
      And increased Pensions..
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:45am
      - hullkiwi
        
        …ahhhhhh but inflation is on the rise, so interest rates will go up and provide more income to pensioners with “cash savings big nest eggs”.
        
        Given this is the extent of this man’s economic knowledge, what possessed Bolger to make him Treasurer in 1996?
        
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        October 31, 2018 10:43am
- Poppa
  
  This whole thing smells like a week old fish head
  
  What are they hiding?
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:37am
stoptheboats

I see we may be importing coal soon to keep the lights on! Out of control eco terrorists in positions of power in NZ need putting on trial for economic vandalism.
What next, if that lot get their way NZ will be importing milk,meat and wool…
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October 31, 2018 8:27am
- G152
  
  I hear that they’re going out of their way to open an old pit and extract some bodies so they can allow the relatives to rebury them.
  Any chance they cant extract some coal while they’re playing games ???????
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:25am
Jack5

New whine topic for media leftists: visa-rort students who want to stay in NZ.

In this case someone with a master’s degree in “international studies” from Palmerston North’s IPU private college (owned by Soshi Gakuen New Zealand Inc, which doesn’t seem to be registered in this country) thinks they can contribute to NZ. How?

One Hasan Alamir seems to think that because he offered her a job in his bakeries-supplies firm she should be allowed to stay. Why?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/369843/masters-graduate-mystified-by-ruling-to-leave-country-i-was-so-confident
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October 31, 2018 8:28am
- Rich Prick
  
  They would be better advised to commit identity fraud, start importing drugs, hanging out with gangs and doing jail time if they want to secure tenure in this country. Perhaps a bit of murder and mayhem would secure the deal, that hasn’t been tried before.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:43am
- hullkiwi
  
  As the Immigration NZ spokesman pointed out, the Alamir and the student/employee were trying to scam INZ by expanding the job to meet some criteria that didn’t fit the girl’s degree. Given what is known about the international student market and Visa immigration scam, National as a matter of policy should look to clamp down on this scam. This market is no different in NZ as it is in Australia, UK and USA – it is a scam to get cheap low skilled immigrants into the NZ workforce. These people do not really add to the longterm workforce, they are cheap under skilled labour market fodder.
  
  If you are going to use immigration as a means to grow the economy & population, dont do it on the cheap and do it with credibility such thatNZ citizens are not cheated in their homeland.
  
  On behalf of a client I saw these scams first hand in the UK, in the UK private education sector.
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:58am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Here’s some background into the Japanese Soshi Gakuen
  
  https://seg.ac.jp/english/about/history_en
  
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  October 31, 2018 12:27pm
  - MH
    
    not a mention of Rugby union?
    
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    October 31, 2018 2:28pm
Notsofast

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
The Lundy appeal judgement comprises a litany of false statements and gravely misunderstood science. There is a shock greater than 6.2 arriving for the people of Palmerston North. The rest of the country couldn’t care less about an innocent man in jail for 17 years.
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October 31, 2018 8:29am
- secondcumming
  
  Get a brain!
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:33am
  - Rich Prick
    
    But not bits of one on your shirt.
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:02am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The people of Palmerston North are, without doubt, grateful that a man callous enough to smash his wife and daughter’s heads in with an axe, after he had entertained a prostitute, is behind bars and will continue to be for some time. The streets of Kelvin Grove are far safer.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:42am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I doubt that she was entertained.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:32am
    - softail 1450
      
      R M,maybe not but she’s very lucky the scumbag wasnt confused that night.
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:35pm
  - Notsofast
    
    You are gravely mistaken, you clearly have no idea what is going on, I do and a bombshell is imminent.
    Tell your people.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:58am
    - Swifty
      
      Lol!
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:07am
    - waikatogirl
      
      “Tell your people”.
      LOL ?
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:26pm
- Happychappy
  
  Another go at trying to convince those that couldn’t give a shit about the double murderer and nutter the chance to spend more taxpayers money to to try and con the public that he is innocent.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:42am
- Swifty
  
  I would care, if he is innocent, but he’s not.
  
  He committed murder most foul.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dynAAX0hYQo
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:57am
  - Harkman
    
    I’m wondering if this Notsofast chap is really Lundy posting from prison ?
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:03am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Notsofast used to back up his posts with some evidence, even though it was never convincing. These days, he implies that he knows more about everything than the three learned Court of Appeal judges who heard every word of the appeal, and spent more than a year writing a comprehensive and detailed decision.
      
      He was convinced that the lengthy delay would lead to Lundy being exonerated, but instead the CoA bench slammed the door behind Lundy, and he’s now lashing out.
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:19am
    - Notsofast
      
      I never met him, that is part of the issue, I met plenty of cases like this through research though, Joseph Bryan in Texas is an identikit match, google it.
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:01am
    - softail 1450
      
      Harkman,you might be on to something there,maybe “notsofast you havn’t paid yet”was what the prostitute said to Lundy when he said “I gotta go I’m already behind schedule” LOL.
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:41pm
  - G152
    
    AAT was found guilty by juries twice.
    Police lies and planting evidence finally brought to light.
    skepticism about those claims is where we should begin
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:28am
    - Swifty
      
      Because AAT was wrongfully convicted then all murderers have been, is that your argument?
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:32am
    - Notsofast
      
      G152, this case is exactly as bad as AAT. Heads will roll down Molesworth Street.
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:00am
- VicParking
  
  “Darling I will miss you in Wellington can a smear some of your brain on my shirt to remember you by”
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:03am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, given that brain material identifiable as such wouldn’t be likely to last as long as it needed to, and if he bashed them with an axe, why was such a miniscule amount found ?
    
    This does look an awful lot like the extremely convenient “find” of a single hair in the Marlborough Sounds case.
    
    To make it clear, I am far from convinced that Lundy is innocent, it still seems most probable that he is in fact guilty. But serious scientific challenges to evidence given under oath should be properly considered or we do risk miscarriages of justice. If not in this case, it does give license to transgressions in others.
    
    If this is unpopular, so be it.
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:54am
103PapPap

I am currently in France, bought the Friday (international) edition of New York Times (only English paper I could find).
A summary of the content.
Page 1 – two Trump articles – Honduras migrant caravan is Trump’s fault, and Trump uses his personal iPhone and Chinese and Russian spies are listening to his calls.
Page 4 – continuation of Honduras caravan is Trump’s fault.
Page 5 – continuation of spies listening to Trump’s iPhone calls.
Page 6 – the whole page devoted to a ‘satirical’ comparison of a Trump rally to ‘Wrestlemania’.
Page 7 – The USA/Russian treaty is in trouble because of Trump’s hard line.
Page 9 – Harley Davidson sales fall because of Trump’s hard line on trade
At last, a couple of pages of sport – no Trump
Page 12 – Opinion. Editorial is anti Trump re USA and Russia arms deal
Then on Page 14 two opinion pieces. Frank Bruni’s opening paragraph “If I listened only to Donald Trump and those Republicans who follow his example, I would be petrified. I would be living in a bunker. I would have cyanide pills at hand”. Nicholas Kristoff writes a vitriolic anti Trump piece criticising Trump for tweeting a spelling mistake.
The bias is unbelievable!
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October 31, 2018 8:37am
- fernglas
  
  You should have bought the US edition; it does nothing but extol the virtues of Trump and explain why he is the anointed one.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:49am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Sarcasm will be taxed at a rate to be determined later.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:56am
  - softail 1450
    
    fernglass,,,add fernglasses name to the “KBs biggest liars”list ,FFS.
    
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    October 31, 2018 12:50pm
- Harkman
  
  Last night (past the bewitching hour) CNN had a show on called ‘CNN Talk’ from London and is a panel discussion type show. Anyhow the first thing I heard was someone really short black women (for the record I enjoy people of all races) who was either from some central African country or the Caribbean say “Donald Trump is stupid.” Some tall bald, supposedly Conservative guy, was trying to explain with her that she was politically biased but no she knew everything. Trump who really did have a dreadful campaign, won the Presidency with half the money, his party and the media against him, did an extremely exceptional achievement. The people tweeting in messages that Trump is “ruining America” were all foreign leftists, not actual Americans.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:17am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Enjoy? That conjured up an image.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:35am
- Notsofast
  
  Trump is an inveterate crook. Coming down on China is good, so we have something of a curate’s egg on our hands.
  Anyone who read the whole NYT article on defrauding the taxpayer is left in no doubt he as an amoral thug.
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:43am
Batman

No sign of our resident anti-Semites this morning.

I’ve just been learning about the real reason for the ‘((( )))’ tag which they put on things they think are linked to Jews.

Evidently there are Chrome plug-ins and such that can search those triple parentheses tags, allowing them to gayly tag things all over the web aand keep track of them in order to reinforce their silly hatred.

They even tag people, on Twitter and so forth, which is known as “belling the cat” so that person can be harassed by other nasty PoS anti-Semites.

DPF – I would like to suggest that anyone using that tag on KB should receive a ban for inciting abuse and anti-Semitism.
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October 31, 2018 8:40am
- peterwn
  
  He is here – I wished him ‘good day’ – in Hebrew.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:27am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Many upticks for this idea of banning, yet a strong support for GAB and freedom of speech below.
  
  I hate antisemitism. I find EADolf a total PoS. I’d certainly expect him (and anyone else) to be reported if he started threatening violence. But where do you draw the line re what is acceptable? If there are now going to be arbitrary decisions on what is bad enough to be banned, we no longer have freedom of speech but the kind of ‘hate speech’ rules that are spreading all over the world and shutting down debate , making people scared to criticise any ideology if it has the protection of the state.
  
  Of course the blog host can ban whatever he wants. I’m just trying to argue for freedom of speech.
  
  I read quite a lot of stuff I find ‘offensive’ here too. I don’t report it as ‘hate speech’ but try to debate it or just give up on that conversation.
  
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  October 31, 2018 2:12pm
Fletch

More stifling of free speech in America. Conservative sites are being de-platformed. This is done by web hosts refusing to host their sites, domain name registrars refusing to host their web addresses, and firms that handle online banking like Paypal and Stripe refusing to process payments for them.

Conservative site LifeSite which has been going since 1997 has suddenly been told by their provider to find somebody else, and just 12 hours to do it in.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/29/christian-news-site-lifesite-blackhosted-by-web-host/

The same thing is happening with social media network Gab. Gab is an alternative to Facebook and Twitter where people can go and freely give their opinions. It made the news recently because of anti-Semitic postings Robert Bowers (the Synagogue shooter) allegedly made on the platform. He also posted on Facebook and Twitter, but Gab has been the only one targeted.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/28/free-speech-platform-gab-blacklisted-by-web-host-payment-processors/

You may recall that Facebook and twitter often say – don’t like our platform, then build your own. Well, the creators of Gab did just that, but big silicon valley companies, such as web hosting and online payment firms are shutting them down by denying them service.

This is just out-and-out wrong. The govt needs to step in and do something. These firms need regulation. The way they are acting is tantamount to an electricity firm denying power to a store it doesn’t like.
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October 31, 2018 8:51am
- stephieboy
  
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  Fletch, Breitbart, Breitbart, Breitbart blah, blah,blah!
  
  Do you believe that the former President had its crazy founder assassinated?
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:57am
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    So is the information wrong? No it is correct. Go to Lifesite’s main webpage and you’ll find info there. Go and try to surf to gab.com and you’ll find the site isn’t there – go to their twitter page to find out why.
    
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/urgent-lifesite-is-under-attack?utm_source=breaking%20news%20bar
    
    https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1056917418616881152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:01am
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      Fletch, their website appears to be safe and sound, up and running and functional.
      
      What’s really Up?
      
      Cheap publicity stunt?
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:07am
      - MrTips
        
        Nope, they got threatened with shutdown you mong. In case it escapes you, websites kinda don’t like that so they took steps to keep running. Obviously you can’t read.
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:19am
      - Fletch
        
        Really? I get an “Error 521 – Web server is down” trying to surf to http://www.gab.com. In going to “gab.com” I get their one page message explaining why their site is down.
        
        Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.
        
        Gab isn’t going anywhere.
        
        It doesn’t matter what you write. It doesn’t matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesn’t matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.
        
        You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.
        
        The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.
        
        No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.
        
        You can’t stop an idea.
        
        As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.
        
        Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:24am
      - Swifty
        
        How can one man get so much wrong so often?
        
        And be so proud about it?
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:41am
      - peterwn
        
        They would have had someone like ‘Pete Belt’. Although his Whaleoil moderation came under attack, he has good technical skills which were valuable when the Whaleoil site was under attack some years back.
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:11pm
      - softail 1450
        
        mr tips ,septicboy can in fact read ,he can tell the age of a female goat by reading the wrinkles around its arsehole .
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:21pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Gab is down right now. I remember Styxhexenhammer recommending it because youtube was becoming more restrictive. He’s no antisemite, just a total libertarian who really supports freedom of speech.
        
        Styx has a good point re not forcing the loons deeper and deeper into echo chambers until they go totally mad. And if they are threatening violence, it’s best to know about it!
        
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        October 31, 2018 2:24pm
    - MrTips
      
      Adam Flanders is a sick and twisted little fellow isn’t he?
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:18am
  - VicParking
    
    Welcome Stephie, did the earthquake move your world. It must of been frightening down there in the basement of Fraser House. Are the goats safe. Nothing like a good shagging to set their minds at ease. ???
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:08am
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What a treat it was to see many KB posters rally around Brazilian political thug Jair Bolsonaro.

As many rally around that Filipino thug. Not forgetting that one presently soiling the Oval office.

All sadly and tiresomely predictable when you think about it!

Sigh!
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October 31, 2018 9:03am
- VicParking
  
  Come on KB’s lets break the record for getting rid of this “soiled” mind.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:10am
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    VicParking, apart from Bolsonaro. favouring Dictatorship, torture and disliking gay and blacks what is his appeal?
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:14am
    - secondcumming
      
      Why do Muslims wear robes?
      
      Because the sound of zips might spook the goats.
      
      😛
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:48am
- cmm
  
  Commies kill.
  
  When people say Comrade, people start dying.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:13am
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    cmm, go and visit your Doctor.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:14am
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    Yep
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:35am
  - Komata
    
    There is a certain ‘Comrade’ Adern at the helm in New Zealand.
    
    ‘Death’ can take many forms, but if you start with a country, I’m told that it makes destroying ‘humans’ easier.
    
    Currently, she has a ‘country’….
    
    (Just saying)
    
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    October 31, 2018 1:03pm
- Fletch
  
  We need someone like Trump to lead our country. Jacinda could learn something from him. He isn’t perfect, but he has made America better – lowest unemployment since 1968, highest business confidence in 18 years, tax cuts, the Dow just set the best all time high close (the 100th since Trump was elected), things are better with North Korea, prescription drug prices are looking to fall.
  
  Most of the bad things you hear about Trump are made up by the media. It’s pure propaganda. I bet Stalin wishes he’d had such power – a Fourth Estate so brainwashed that they don’t even need coercion by the State to print what they do.
  
  And what has Jacinda done for us? Nothing. Everything she touches has turned to shit. She and her cohort are ruining our country and our economy.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:16am
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    Fletch, some like Jair Bolsonaro. or Rodrigo Dutertefit fit the bill too?
    
    BTW are they devout Catholics?
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:21am
    - Tall Man
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:07am
      - sam green
        
        Is Tall Man actually short?
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:08pm
      - itstricky
        
        and female? Perhaps we can all just be thankful she didn’t call herself “Long Man”
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:30pm
  - Longknives
    
    I agree!
    The NZ Political scene desperately needs a strong Right Wing leader who isn’t afraid to ruffle feathers or make a tough decision..
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:23am
    - stephieboy
      
      Longknives, which political thug do have in mind?
      
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      October 31, 2018 10:41am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy ,your goat is bleeting for your attention….
        
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        October 31, 2018 1:25pm
- srylands
  
  You can sigh all day. That is what happens when socialists wreck. You get a nasty pendulum swing because most people have nothing to lose by giving a “thug” a go.
  
  You can be thankful that won’t happen here in the foreseeable future. Apart from ACT, it seems we only have socialists to choose from.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:28am
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    Agreed.
    
    Good people eventually tire of being treated like a doormat – we’ll get it here eventually.
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:38am
Hugh Pavletich

Housing prices Australia: Nation has world’s riskiest household debt levels, Morgan Stanley says … news com au

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/australians-have-the-worlds-riskiest-household-debt-levels-a-concerning-new-report-has-revealed/news-story/11a77bc2b5e040be142df91d72aef0ca

A CONCERNING new report has revealed Australians face a collective $700 billion cut to their wealth.

The Household Deleveraging Risk Indicator, put together by US investment banking giant Morgan Stanley, has warned Australia “leads the world in dangerous debt”, noting that of all the G10 countries, we’re most at risk of a deleveraging of household debt.

Ominously enough, the banking giant said there was an “imminent risk” this could happen as early as next year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Australia most exposed to housing debt downturn | afr.com

https://www.afr.com/news/economy/australia-most-exposed-to-housing-debt-downturn-20181029-h179ko
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Australians face $700b wealth wipe-out as debt levels rated riskiest in the world: Morgan Stanley – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-30/australia-most-country-to-risks-of-rising-household-debt/10445814
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US bank Morgan Stanley worried about indebted Australians selling their homes for a loss in 2019 | Daily Mail Online

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6332099/US-bank-Morgan-Stanley-worried-indebted-Australians-selling-homes-loss-2019.html
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October 31, 2018 9:25am
- peterwn
  
  This needs deeper analysis than given. For all the horrid things people may say about the ‘Big Four’ Australian banks (and their NZ operations) they are not daft. They came through the 2008 downturn pretty well intact whereas British and American banks were falling like ninepins and there was a surge of ‘jingle keys’ (people walking out of their homes and mailing the keys to the lender). It is doubtful whether they are any more vulnerable this time round.
  There is another difference to bear in mind. In USA if you default on your mortgage and the lender re-possesses, you have no further liability. This is a moral hazard as a borrower can walk away from the property (jingle keys) and is not incentived to keep payments up. In Australia and NZ the borrower is liable for any shortfall to the lender after any mortgagee sale and faces bankrupcy if the shortfall is not met. Borrowers therefore have a big incentive to keep payments up and lenders also have an incentive (within reason) to help borrowers where possible including helping with an orderly unpressured sale of the property.
  Therefore I do not see the property risk in Australia as great as American oriented commentators like to think it is.
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:05am
Surely Knott

Alfred Ngaro not letting a wee earthquake get in the way of his parliamentary speech! Just keeps going like a pro. Tough as. https://www.facebook.com/Stuff.co.nz/videos/245734662964811/
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October 31, 2018 9:32am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Alf is a top bloke. He started out as an electrician, then he and his wife went on to pastor a church, he set up a social services agency in Panmure/Glen Innes, and in 2009, he won a Peter Black Emerging Leader award.
  
  Ironically, he’s the type of bloke Labour would love to have on their benches, but he set his sights higher!
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:58am
Inandout

If our criminal resident attracts ‘read between the lines’ favouritism, does that mean he is a grass?
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October 31, 2018 9:32am
MrTips

Like all good drug dealers, they don’t let their kids near their own products.
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October 31, 2018 9:38am
Maggy Wassilieff

Better give us a synopsis.
I’m not wasting my shekels on payview.
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October 31, 2018 9:50am
Michael

KS.
It would be the sex worker entertaining Lundy, would it not? I have always felt he deliberately booked her for midnight rather than,say ,around 10 p.m, to give himself an alibi for the middle of the night. I wonder if he was in the habit of booking sex workers when he was away on business and if so what time did he usually book them for? Or was this a one-off?
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October 31, 2018 9:57am
Michael

Hey stephie,
I see you are still getting no upticks, so I gave you a couple. Hope you don’t mind.
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October 31, 2018 10:04am
Michael

What do you reckon, kiwibloggers, good idea or not?
https://www.ajc.com/news/tech-science/people-not-like-twitter-plan-remove-the-like-button/PcDgetoImMut8KUJpcjfAI/
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October 31, 2018 10:11am
rangitoto

Taxinda is famous on the Daily mail.

“Two people struggled to pick up a gigantic bunch of flowers in front of a barricade of hundreds of eager royal fans”

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/10/30/05/51C9C54800000578-6331909-image-m-118_1540876192992.jpg
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October 31, 2018 10:13am
- Longknives
  
  Christ look at the size of those gnashers!
  
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  October 31, 2018 10:20am
  - Inandout
    
    Shit, she is a walking chipmunk. Jethro is a lucky chap.
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:30am
  - Fletch
    
    Her head seems to look more skull-like every time I see a photo…
    
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    October 31, 2018 10:57am
    - Disillusioned_Voter
      
      I predict that the wall will hit her hard.
      
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      October 31, 2018 12:35pm
    - itstricky
      
      KEEPING STOCK!
      
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      October 31, 2018 3:52pm
- secondcumming
  
  I actually find her an incredibly attractive woman with a personality to match. Just a shame about the cankles.
  
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  October 31, 2018 11:06am
- softail 1450
  
  look at all the labour voters behind her,is that her beta male partner behind her trying to grab her arse?
  
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  October 31, 2018 1:28pm
  - itstricky
    
    is that her beta male partner
    
    He sure isn’t a Harley rider. Am I right?
    
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    October 31, 2018 3:53pm
kowtow

You have to larf ……years of bitter inter communal strife in the 6 Counties , murder ,mayhem and misery and these clowns dress up as Nasties.

You’d think they’d get a life.

‘Reports that a group of people dressed as Ku Klux Klan members posed outside an Islamic prayer house in Northern Ireland are being investigated as a hate crime, the PSNI has said.’

https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2018/1029/1007376-kkk/
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October 31, 2018 10:23am
Fletch

I think someone mentioned this yesterday, but here is Hillary Clinton (referring to Eric Holder and Cory Booker) saying that all black people look alike….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuuP3aXyx0w

Just imagine the uproar if Trump had said this….
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October 31, 2018 10:53am
Inandout

Oh no…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/breaking-report-exclusive-documents-special-counsel-and-former-fbi-director-robert-mueller-accused-of-rape-by-very-credible-witness/

Where is our resident Obergropenführer?
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October 31, 2018 11:23am
- cha
  
  The dumbest man on the internet is furiously backpedaling. He’s taken down his post and he’s trying to claim Mueller making a criminal complaint is an abuse of government power.
  
  https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207
  
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  October 31, 2018 1:31pm
secondcumming

WHAT DO WE WANT?

A CURE FOR TOURETTES

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

TWAT!!
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October 31, 2018 11:48am
Paulus

Why has Jane Taylor resigned as Chairman of New Zealand Post ?
I thought we are being taught that it all about top Women are to lead our Society now.
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October 31, 2018 1:04pm
- MH
  
  they had to letter go, her remuneration was too parcelmonious..
  
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  October 31, 2018 1:39pm
igm

Pity there were not a few parking warriors around Wellington/Hutt Valley.
Murri/PIs have no respect for disabled car parks and when confronted are vile and abusive.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/north-canterbury/108134754/shame-on-you-strike-two-another-rangiora-parking-warrior-gets-it-wrong
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October 31, 2018 1:10pm
MH

they had to letter go, her remuneration was too parcelmonious..
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October 31, 2018 1:38pm
Swifty

Valerie Morse yet again attempting to prevent NZers going about their lawful business:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12151924

Fascist.
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October 31, 2018 1:56pm
MH

local Akld Western Leader has add from keepourmonyclean.govt.nz about $1 billion in drug money being laundered thru NZ business. you can bet the most obvious business is never mentioned of course.
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October 31, 2018 2:15pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like Iain Lees-Galloway is having a rethink.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108253035/immigration-minister-iain-leesgalloway-to-review-karel-sroubek-residency
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October 31, 2018 2:33pm
MCos

A song that is causing all sorts of ripples in Thailand, which has been subjected to a military dictatorship since 2014.
The junta came to power promising to tackle corruption and bring reconciliation to the people. Reform this, reform that in preparation for a return to democracy. All the usual stuff that totalitarian regimes promise the grateful public.
Well, as the years roll by and the rich still get away with ‘murder’ and elections keep getting pushed out goodwill is evaporating.
Out comes this protest song, which has struck a chord with a lot of people. So far it has been viewed over 20mil times. Unbelievably the group and anyone who liked the song have been threatened with arrest. That’s what would have happened a couple of years ago, but now a lot of people are pissed off. https://youtu.be/VZvzvLiGUtw
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October 31, 2018 2:34pm
- MCos
  
  An opinion piece in a Bangkok newspaper http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/opinion/30357472
  
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  October 31, 2018 2:43pm
cmm

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12152026

Government operating deficit wider than expected, with a picture of a surprised looking MinFin!

Wider than expected by whom?

Anyone with half a braincell and more than year one arithmetic would not be surprised by this.
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October 31, 2018 2:34pm
Johnboy

Here we go cuzzies. White man justice in action!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/108231355/Warren-Pay-named-as-defendant-in-Hutt-Valley-murder-charge
Note 12 months till trial!!!! 🙂
Time we brought back Murri justice:
“Did you do it bro?”
“Yes Chief”
“Did you have a good reason?”
“No Chief, it was the piss.”
“Hit this useless POS on the head with a sharp stone club men”
“Men..men where have you gone?”
“Fu Chief we shot off to dig the kumara to go with the defendant! ” 🙂
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October 31, 2018 2:42pm
Paulus

A while ago I commented re a friendly Law partnership who were considering the annual subject of their usual eight internships for the Christmas break.
I have heard now of the conclusion.
They advertised as usual and received over 80 replies and eliminated most as having no NZ residency (normal I am told).
Down to 16 applicants initially interviewed by HR persons.
Partners (both male and female) decided to join this action this year – not usual at this stage.
Down to 12 who were asked to make a CV application in hand writing, along with a short resume of their hopes and aspirations for the next ten years and they would be asked to talk to this.
All attended the nominated partners at some length.
The main outcome was that they wanted to be Partners as soon as possible and highly paid legal Environmentalists, Worker’s Law specialists, and Gender affairs.
They will review the subject of Interns again next year.
It was an eyeopener apparently as they had not really participated in the selection in previous years having been left to HR consultants.
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October 31, 2018 2:43pm
Johnboy

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108253035/immigration-minister-iain-leesgalloway-to-review-karel-sroubek-residency

Jeeze! That Lees-Galloway’s a tough looking cunt since he grew that facial hair eh folks! 🙂

I’m almost certain he never had it when he stood for election?

Didn’t want to frighten his rainbow voters I guess! 🙂
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October 31, 2018 3:04pm
- Longknives
  
  He reminds me of Guy Williams..
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:04pm
Manolo

Even our resident left-wing Muslim would agree:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-president-elect-calls-on-government-to-pass-pension-bill-1540939639
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October 31, 2018 3:16pm
Kabull

Another splendid performance by Simon Bridges in General Debate today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-GmFiDY3Gg
It really is a shame so few people view these clips (at the moment it shows only 42.) Also, I wonder if the 2 dislikes indicate Simon is hitting a sore spot!
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October 31, 2018 3:36pm
- Longknives
  
  Correct- He absolutely owns Labour at Question time.
  For some reason he comes across as a complete wimpy wally on TV interviews though.
  And I still can’t forgive him for falling into that blindingly obvious Jeremy Wells trap..
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:03pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes Simon was on fire!
  I wish more people would look at Parliament tv.
  And I notice that Simon got a big round of applause from the National MP’s
  
  Keep NZ safe!
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:13pm
  - KevOB
    
    It looks like the ferrari has been come out of the garage. The COL have become a joke in Parliament.
    
    Simon’s “We are ready to govern” was a reminder they are, relative to the kindergarten on the executive benches.
    ☑️☑️
    
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    October 31, 2018 6:23pm
- KevOB
  
  It wasn’t lost on Mr Speaker who was dumbfounded.
  
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  October 31, 2018 6:25pm
Inandout

I actually think Simon is growing in the role. As they say, needs must.
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October 31, 2018 3:53pm
- Flash
  
  Yes, he’s cleared the decks after the JLR storm, and now free to think about the future.
  I think he has shown that he can work behind the scenes, and is now stepping to the fore.
  When the day comes, and the voters are worried about the state of the country and their own futures, he might be the man to save their bacon.
  I’d like to think so, anyway.
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:57pm
DigNap15

Ian Lees Galloway is an idiot for believing anything that Czech guy and his lawyer said.
He is a criminal, and lied to get in to NZ why believe him.
He has gang connections in CR and NZ
People like that doe not deserve a second chance
He made his bed. let him lie in it.

But at least it shows that ILG is not anti white as he did want him to stay.

Good on Simon, and we need to keep the pressure on Labor for all their lies and incontinence.
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October 31, 2018 5:04pm
- nasska
  
  It’s worth recalling that although Lees-Galloway, like his predecessor Michael Woodhouse, is totally incompetent they rely on Immigration New Zealand for advice. Advice that in many cases seems in conflict with truth & fact.
  
  Could be time for a mass sacking of Biblical proportions amongst the pencil sharpeners & time servers of the department.
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:20pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Couple of things
    1. Don’t remember anything of this monumental stupidity and dishonesty from Michael Woodhouse.
    2.He was given all the info., he said so, and still came up with this stupid decision, the staff are the tools you have, stop blaming them and take responsibility.
    3. Don’t disagree, most govt. departments are over staffed, under worked and layoffs of the useless ones should go ahead TODAY!!!
    
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    October 31, 2018 5:31pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”Don’t remember anything of this monumental stupidity and dishonesty from Michael Woodhouse”….
      
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/04/sultan_ali_abdul_ali_akbari_must_go.html
      
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      October 31, 2018 5:46pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Not remotely the same, this guy was never GIVEN residency.
        
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        October 31, 2018 7:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    nasska, very profoundly thought-provoking!
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:19pm
- KevOB
  
  It’s possible he may be in mortal danger back where he came from. A drug dealer who leaves liabilities is seldom forgotten. They define liabilities different to the outside world.
  
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  October 31, 2018 6:16pm
  - simpleton1
    
    But he has been back to Czech Republic.
    Maybe “the liability” could be redeemed.
    Was he seeking redemption in opening NZ to his mates in the drug trade?
    
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    October 31, 2018 6:22pm
DigNap15

I hear that Business Confidence is still down. ANZ survey. (No report in the print media yet)

And even agriculture do not want to invest or employ people.
May be because they are being priced out of their markets.
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October 31, 2018 5:06pm
Fletch

Mark Levin tears the media a new one over their trying to blame Trump for the synagogue massacre.
He has made this episode free.

https://www.facebook.com/LevinTV/videos/310626399768818/
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October 31, 2018 5:08pm
Johnboy

ETERNAL LIFE
A guy is walking along a beach when he comes across a lamp partially buried in the sand. He picks up the lamp and gives it a rub. A genie appears and tells him he has been granted one wish.
The guy thinks for a moment and says, “I want to live forever.”
“Sorry,” said the genie, “I’m not allowed to grant eternal life.”
“OK, then, I want to die after Labor /Greens/Winston First get elected, balance the budget, eliminate the debt, sort the housing problem, fix education,pay everyone the living wage, resolve the infrastructure, transport and immigration problems,restore our environment, fix climate change and sort out superannuation so oldies can live comfortably.
“You crafty little bastard,” said the genie.
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October 31, 2018 5:31pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Johnboy:
  
  We know what Mikenmild’s wish would be: to have his ban lifted so he can comment here at Kiwiblog again! He’ll be back on 21 December – just in time for Christmas.
  
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  October 31, 2018 5:42pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Since I haven’t been here for a while Nostra..apart from the odd dalliance ….. it has taken me a while to realise poor old deluded Milkey has departed!
    Awfully sad to see him go!!! 🙂
    Thank God he’ll be back for the festive season! 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 5:53pm
    - Johnboy
      
      One of course must nurture ones enemies even if they are fucking HOBM cunts! 🙂
      
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      October 31, 2018 5:55pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      So what was Hugh doing up at 3.24am this morning? He’s taking this “public service” idea a bit far. Everyone else would have been having a snooze or getting laid at that time!
      
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      October 31, 2018 6:00pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Shit Oh Dear Nostra old chap. That 65/9 must be one of the best scores ever recorded here? 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 6:04pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      True Johnboy. We’re more accustomed to seeing 65/9 when it’s our cricket team!
      
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      October 31, 2018 6:08pm
      - Johnboy
        
        The thing is Nostra apart from Milkey pretending to be a HOBM supporter he never really was a sporting sort of chap. He always had to push his leftist agenda to the fore! No wonder our esteemed host had a gutsful of the prick!!!!! 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:13pm
    - nasska
      
      I’m jealous! The best I’ve managed was 43/13 earlier this year! 🙂
      
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      October 31, 2018 6:11pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        If you give us a link, Nasska, we can even up the denominator for you!
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:15pm
      - Johnboy
        
        I wish you fucking bastards would slow down a tad while a mans trying to cook his grub!
        Me chops are burned!!!
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:16pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Johnboy:
        
        I thought you had Lucia helping out in the kitchen? Or did things go downhill after the boots incident?
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:17pm
      - nasska
        
        I’m no good at linking Nostra but it was GD on the 1st March.
        
        I upset the conservatives & God’s little helpers! 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:20pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Oh dear I do wish! A chap needs a bit of Polishing around his accoutrements! 🙂 Whatever happened to the lovely Catholic girl? 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:23pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Johnboy:
        
        David Garrett has been happier than usual lately. I’ll be as irritating as Jacinda and suggest that you read between the lines!
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:25pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Here you go Nasska old chap: your 1 March 2018 comment.
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:47pm
      - Swifty
        
        Heh, I remember I upticked that from nasska, I thought it was actually pretty funny!
        
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        October 31, 2018 6:51pm
  - Longknives
    
    I’d hate for Mikey to miss my legendary Kiwiblog Christmas Party!
    Nostradamus will surely remember every one of them?
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:01pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Longknives:
      
      I remember every one of them – except the one in 2011 where (allegedly) Philu was hiding in the toilet and Bereal was trying to knock the door down. I always meant to ask: did someone pay the repair bill?
      
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      October 31, 2018 7:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Is this a new form of cultural training?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/10/turangi-dairy-owner-filmed-in-mongrel-mob-t-shirt-chanting-gang-slogans.html
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October 31, 2018 6:45pm
- Swifty
  
  He sure seems pretty pleased with himself.
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:00pm
Swifty

A question for Johnboy and nasska:

Given all you now know – at what age do you (did you) personally knock over a lamb for your own table? (Not your age, the lamb’s 🙂 )

I have my preference, I’d be keen to know what you think.
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October 31, 2018 7:04pm
- Johnboy
  
  The first time the little bitch turned me down she was toast mate! 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:20pm
  - Swifty
    
    Heh heh.
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:22pm
- nasska
  
  …..” at what age do you (did you) personally knock over a lamb for your own table?”….
  
  After I got the boot from college my first job was on a sheep & beef farm. One of the Saturday morning jobs was the kill for dog tucker & any meat the cocky’s wife wanted for the following week. So in my case 16.
  
  The task had its humour. One morning the boss’s poofy little nephew was watching. He was a city type lad & didn’t think much of the process. I grabbed him, bent his head over my knee & used the leather knife scabbard to “cut” his throat.
  
  He ran inside holding his hands around his neck crying to the boss’s wife that I’d done him in. I was in a power of shit for that but it was worth it! 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:29pm
  - Swifty
    
    Heh.
    
    nasska, for optimum eating, what do you personally kill at? 6-8 months? 12?
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:35pm
    - Swifty
      
      i.e. are you a hogget fan?
      
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      October 31, 2018 7:36pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Swifty:
        
        I gather that GoVege is more of a floret fan (as in cauliflower florets). She may have a view on the optimum age for slaughtering lambs though!
        
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        October 31, 2018 7:40pm
      - nasska
        
        I go more for weight & condition than age. 42kg liveweight equals about 17.5kg on the hook & I wouldn’t bother with anything lighter.
        
        But hogget has the flavour that you never get with lamb & would be my first choice.
        
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        October 31, 2018 7:41pm
      - Swifty
        
        Thanks nasska.
        
        Yep, I’ve been buying off my local guy for years at 18kg hook weight. Usually get half a dozen per year, quartered.
        
        Superior.
        
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        October 31, 2018 7:44pm
      - Swifty
        
        Thanks Nostra – I’ll check with her! 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 7:45pm
stephieboy

The witching hour is nigh where KB’s Johnboy, Nostradamus and nasska etc regress into childish babble a sure symptom of early onset senility!
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October 31, 2018 7:11pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stephieboy:
  
  Haven’t you got some Halloween “haunting” to do at St Lukes? Plenty of pre-teen girls with “small but ample breasts” there for you to wank over.
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:13pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Nostradamus, don’t forget to change your incontinent diapers tonight before your sleepover with Swifty and coy under Grafton bridge.
    
    Ugh!
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:17pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      your incontinent diapers
      
      You must have me confused with your pet goat Billy.
      
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      October 31, 2018 7:18pm
    - Swifty
      
      Hey, it’s Mangere Bridge thanks very much.
      
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      October 31, 2018 7:18pm
  - Swifty
    
    Ouch!
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:17pm
- Johnboy
  
  At least we all have friends to spend our Halloween with Stephie! 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:26pm
Johnboy

Good grief. I see if you are fucking stupid enough to buy a VW you can get free roadside assistance!
I’d take that offer if I was you! 🙂
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October 31, 2018 7:24pm
nasska

“Mum, how should I dress up at Halloween this year?”

“Just hang your NCEA results around your neck and go as a fucking idiot.”
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October 31, 2018 7:32pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I hear that Helen Clark costumes are selling like hotcakes this year!
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October 31, 2018 7:36pm
- Johnboy
  
  I’d actually give a sheila dressed up like that a few inches Nostra. 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:39pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Course I haven’t been up in the bush for a good few years! 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:42pm
  - nasska
    
    You’re a sick man JB.
    
    But we like you! 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:44pm
    - Johnboy
      
      She’s not that bad lookin nasska. Should have seen some of the dogs that wanted to skinny dip with some of us hard old hunters! 🙂
      
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      October 31, 2018 7:46pm
  - Swifty
    
    Oh you are awful. 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 7:46pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Jesus- that image should carry a health warning
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

talking of food, chaps…

It’s World Vegan Day tomorrow.

Wonder what I can foist on the loved one:
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/disgusting-recipes-that-no-one-wants-to-make/
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October 31, 2018 7:51pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Ha ha … I simply love! a big juicy steak, but some of those actually look ok. Short of sacrificing my shoe, there almost nothing deep fried I won’t eat. Almost.
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:56pm
- Swifty
  
  At the ’84 Sweetwaters I hung out with the Hare Krishnas daily and took full advantage of the free scoff they put on Maggy – ever since I’ve cooked vegetarian recipes with great confidence.
  
  I love meat – but happily do vege meals and the kids wolf them down.
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:59pm
- Johnboy
  
  A very large Radish should do the trick Maggy. 🙂
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaphanidosis
  
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  October 31, 2018 7:59pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I wondered why one of my daughters majored in Classics until I read some of the filth she was studying.
    
    Of course as a botanist I could never condone the abuse of a plant.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:05pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Quite so Maggy. It’s damned disgusting seeing what some folk do to poor unsuspecting corncobs on the internet! 🙂
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:08pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Horrors!!!!!
        
        I foolishly clicked onto those words I had never seen before at the end of your radish reference.
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:14pm
      - Johnboy
        
        No unsuspecting lady should ever click onto either my radish or my corncob unless she’s prepared for a huge surprise Maggy. 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:17pm
nasska

Once, a few years back I went into a vegan restaurant as I was told the menu was quite tasty.

Well to be fair, it was a bit cardboardy but it was still better than any of the shit that was on it. 🙂
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October 31, 2018 7:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Vegan restaurant opened here last year. It only survived for a couple of months… couldn’t even make it over summer when alternative folk flock in.
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:01pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, but doing very well in Auckland and growing. Do remember Gisborne is a backwater and hardly a thriving centre of cosmopolitan culture.
    
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    October 31, 2018 8:34pm
    - Swifty
      
      There are times when I think about how is must be in your howling wilderness of a mind.
      
      When you think you’re so right about things – but then have proven time after time how you’re so wrong.
      
      Luckily those times don’t last long.
      
      I wish you luck in this life Stiffy – you clearly so badly need it.
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:40pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        He’s just making shit up again
        He has no idea how well restaurants are going
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:42pm
      - Swifty
        
        Yep.
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:45pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed, plenty of half cooked frozen pies for you available in the City of Sails for strays like you!
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/99096287/beggars-are-not-stray-animals-advocates-say
        
        LOL
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:06pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        No thanks retard
        Had some nice Lamb chops, new potatoes and salad tonite.
        Big chops too
        Yum
        But tell us more about these vegan restaurants you know so much about
        
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        October 31, 2018 9:12pm
    - Swifty
      
      Of course other times I think of you like this:
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxzbqmFkXwU
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:43pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Cosmopolitan Culture?
      
      Christ who needs it when you’ve got Johnboy supplying you with rare titbits and bonne bouche from Aristophanes and Catullus?
      
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      October 31, 2018 8:56pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Ah shucks Mags! Thanks for them kind words!!
        I’ve always been keen on a bit of Greek you know! 🙂
        
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        October 31, 2018 8:59pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Perfect for an idiot like you then.
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      
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      October 31, 2018 9:19pm
- Johnboy
  
  Here we go. Fuckwit council wankers whose biggest challenge is ensuring the tea trolley is on time pissing on hard working kiwi folk again!
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108253811/cafe-owners-overwhelmed-with-support-after-being-told-to-remove-all-but-12-seats
  I’m beginning to suspect we need to have something along the lines of the French revolution here! 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 8:48pm
- GoVege
  
  Nasska: you can’t really appreciate the subtle flavours of plants until you stop eating massive quantities of animal flesh…
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:59pm
Ross12

The Government has proved me wrong again. I thought it would be at least late November or even December before they had another stuff up big enough to blow the JLR story off the “front page”.
They did before the end October –incredible.
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October 31, 2018 8:18pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, but sadly its not affecting them in the polls yet.
  Labour has risen!
  Ardern has risen
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:20am
Doubledimp

Unforeseen issue # 1 with Transmission Gully, they will make Porirua and Whitby merge into each other.

Seriously, whoever had the bright idea to mix social housing with conventional properties needs their head examined. The “market” will decide that they do not want to buy in Porirua (as it is well known it is Mongrel Mob territory) and no sane landlord would invest in property in a social housing area with the upcoming tenancy rules changes, so most of these houses will end up being sold to the government. If you own a property in Whitby, sell now.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108181430/plan-for-thousands-of-new-houses-being-nailed-down-in-porirua
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October 31, 2018 8:56pm
- Johnboy
  
  I worked with a mate who bought a hovel in Whitby.
  I took enormous pleasure describing it as Waitangirua North. Shit it made the poor bastard squirm! 🙂
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I did my Honours project down in the muds of Pauatahanui as Whitby was being developed.
  
  Shitby was a more appropriate term when the rains arrived.
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:32pm
  - Johnboy
    
    I bet you would have looked utterly lovely in those days bent right over checking out the Speckled Mudwarbler Mags! 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:35pm
Johnboy

The best place to look at Whitby is from Grays Road, 🙂
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes
Little boxes
Little boxes all the same
There’s a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
And the people in the houses all go to the university
And they all get put in boxes, little boxes all the same
And there’s doctors and there’s lawyers
And business executives
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same
And they all play on the golf course and drink their martini dry
And they all have pretty children and the children go to school
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
And they all get put in boxes, and they all come out the same
And the boys go into business and marry and raise a family
And they all get put in boxes, little boxes all the same
There’s a green one, and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they’re all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
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October 31, 2018 9:18pm
stigie

Christ, you’re on fire again tonight JB..?
Don’t know how you keep it up ole chap !~
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October 31, 2018 9:20pm
- sooty
  
  Viagara, mate. Viagara!
  
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  October 31, 2018 9:23pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Who needs bloody viagra when you can have such wonderful fantasies about all the lovely ladies here on KB? 🙂
    
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    October 31, 2018 9:26pm
stigie

JB would argue it’s Viagra sooty..?
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October 31, 2018 9:26pm
Hugh Pavletich

Foreigners Like U.S. Debt as Much as They Ever Have – Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-31/bear-market-in-bonds-tempered-by-foreign-demand

The idea that international investors are shying away from Treasuries is a good argument that falls flat in light of a broad array of evidence. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Dollar set for seventh month of gains as stocks advance … Reuters / CNBC

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/31/forex-markets-dollar-yen-bank-of-japan-in-focus.html

The dollar held at a 16-month high on Wednesday as a rebound in global stocks fuelled demand for the greenback, with cautious comments from Japan’s central bank also helping sentiment.

With U.S. Treasury yields on 10-year maturities rebounding to 3.14 percent from three-week lows hit last week, hedge funds ramped up bets the dollar’s gains may have more room to run. … read more via hyperlink above …
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US Treasury to Borrow More Than $1.3 Trillion in 2018 | The Fiscal Times

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2018/10/30/US-Treasury-Borrow-More-13-Trillion-2018

The U.S. Treasury said Monday it expects to issue about $425 billion in debt this quarter, raising its 2018 borrowing to more than $1.3 trillion, a 145 percent increase from the $546 billion issued in 2017.

The 2018 total would be the largest annual total since 2010, when the Treasury issued $1.586 trillion in debt…. Read more via hyperlink above …
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