General Debate 20 October 2017

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Steve (North Shore)

Let’s go fishing
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October 20, 2018 8:00am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Mountain biking today for me, tight lines though!
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:08am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yup. I’m MTBing too. Practicing my involuntary dismounts no doubt 😉
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:06am
  - Peter S
    
    Me too.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:13am
Manolo

This time stephieboy IS thrilled:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/802785/former-hillary-clinton-adviser-says-theres-chance-run-2020

Philippe Reines, who worked for Hillary Clinton going back to 2002 and was her senior adviser at the State Department, made the argument to Politico Friday that the former Democratic nominee might actually be the party’s best hope for defeating Trump in 2020. He said no other Democrat has “anywhere near a base of 32 million people,” especially not Sens. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

But it doesn’t sound like this is just wishful thinking on his part. He really thinks it could happen, saying the chances of Clinton running in 2020 are “not zero.”
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October 20, 2018 8:01am
- tas
  
  She lost an unloseable election. She should never show her face in public again. She would be stupid to run. All the other candidates will savage her in the primaries for losing to Trump last time.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:04am
  - waikatogirl
    
    But like JLR she insists it’s everyone else’s fault.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:11am
  - VicParking
    
    The other candidates will have car crashes or overdoses
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:29am
- Harkman
  
  Raines is often on Fox and he is a smarmy, angry, rude and deranged partisan. Strangely the Dems have a long history of running the losing nominee again in the next election, William Jennings Bryan and Adlai Stevenson come to mind. Every time they lost.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:03am
- Scott
  
  Yes I think Hillary should run again! Who knows it might be 3rd time lucky? If she can work on her medication and stand up without falling I’m sure she’ll be fine??
  
  I mean this constant whining about why she lost, blaming half of the country as deplorables, blaming Russia, blaming the electoral college. I am positive this is warming the electorate towards her??
  
  I am sure that over at Trump HQ they are ecstatic about the idea of Hillary running again.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:49am
  - Jules99
    
    LOL, Trump seems pretty keen on Pocahontas running.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:11am
Dany

Have you seen the big Honduran caravan trying to get into Venezuela? Me neither
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October 20, 2018 8:04am
- Southern Raider
  
  Can’t we send Manus and Nauru “refugees” to Venezuela?
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:09am
  - DigNap15
    
    No “we” can’t.
    Maybe Australia or Nauru could.
    But how can that be done in today’s PC world?
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:13am
    - Tall Man
      
      A big boat?
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:25am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Surely even Commies know better than to welcome possible islamists into their country.
    
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    October 20, 2018 2:47pm
- Scott
  
  One question that needs looking at is who is paying for this caravan of thousands of people from Honduras? Who is feeding these 4000 people? How come they are heading towards the United States now just before the mid-term elections?
  
  Is it possible this is another democrat left-wing plot funded by George Soros to influence yet another election?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:50am
  - Jules99
    
    Probably, but it seems to me it would benefit Trump and make his wall look a lot more appealing.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:12am
- The Heat
  
  I don’t think there has ever been an attempt to break into a Marxist shithole.
  
  Which says a lot.
  
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  October 20, 2018 3:13pm
- suzieq
  
  And why don’t African would-be economic migrants trying to reach Europe never head to Russia?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:53pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    No Benefits
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:56pm
flipper

Ok DPF, has the Ross saga now deservedly surpassed all other subject matters in just a week or two?
There were many hundreds on the various Bain matters, but from memory over a much longer period.
So, take “Ross reneges…”. That was up to 390 by 7.58 this morning…. And notwithstanding a seemingly earlier endless supply of variations on the matter …….
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October 20, 2018 8:05am
- Nostalgia-NZ
  
  It’s a very interesting subject flipper, something challenging to look at objectively without the normal inclination to take sides first. Historically we might see it as linked to superficial policy decisions made to gain easy points with the public. As one wag puts it ‘trying to herd cats.’ I tell you his name one day.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:24am
  - flipper
    
    Yes Nos-NZ, you are right this does deserve our attention.
    I look forward to your future posts. 🙂
    
    In the meantime, re DPF’s new matters (today), he omits the proclivity of the NP Board, driven by various factions, to poke their collective nose into candidate selection to an extent that would, were someone with deep pockets be determined, be open to legal challenge. The problem with Ross was that he had enough support around him to insulate him from outside sanction. And then the duplicitous bastard does he dirty on the Party and the Caucus-elected Leader.
    Cheers Nos
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    October 20, 2018 9:46am
Southern Raider

Sometimes you wish we had a bit of the USA in NZ

Those two scum drivers through Auckland yesterday for hours, shooting randomly and endangering both cops and the public.

In the USA the scums families would be now preparing for funerals
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October 20, 2018 8:07am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes and think of the damage they have caused, and the fact that we will keep them in jail, and support any “families” they have
  We need cumulative sentences, then they would be inside for the rest of their miserable lives.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:11am
- BananaLlama
  
  They ran a friend of mine who is a mother two off the road. Also shooting at members of the public who were driving home. I reckon the local lads could have got a Posse Comitatus together and lynched them from a lamp post. That unsighted bolt action wouldn’t be worth shit against semi autos.
  It’s not like you could get the wrong person either since the idiots would start shooting at you. My two cents.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:50am
- Woz
  
  But their mothers would stand up at the funerals, and before the cameras, and sobbingly tell the world what beautiful boys they were.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:46am
  - sooty
    
    And all the people would do a haka.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:59am
  - GoVege
    
    Maybe they might have turned out ok.
    If their dads had stuck around and even supported their families…
    
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    October 20, 2018 3:14pm
DigNap15

The more I see and hear of JLR the more I think he is despicable.
He is not ashamed or sorry he had those affairs, he seems to be boasting about them.
And to spill beans and record your colleagues is truly very low.
I hope National expel him from their party using the Waka Bill!
The quicker we stop paying this slime ball a salary the better
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October 20, 2018 8:09am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘ National expel him from their party using the Waka Bill’
  
  And our enemies on the Left say;’ do it, do it, do it!’
  Frankly the Nats don’t have to do anything.
  Already there are calls for women to walk out when he arrives.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:22am
  - rockape
    
    Hard rat to swallow but the rat needs to be gone or he will continue to do more damage.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:26am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Swallowing that rat will do more damage than JLR can.
      You’ll be hearing about Nats hypocrisy for years and years
      Their credibility will be destroyed.
      
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      October 20, 2018 10:09am
  - Tall Man
    
    Shame is the key.
    
    Ignore him but unfortunately our pathetic media will lap up his every dribble.
    
    There has to be a way to send someone to “Coventry”, unfortunately it would be a busy place with all the dickheads we’d need to ship there.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:30am
    - suzieq
      
      “Drivel” …
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:56pm
- yossarian
  
  I’m no psychologist (but my wife is, and yes the running joke is that I’m ‘homework’) but he definitely has all the markings of a psychopath.
  
  And don’t think that I’m being over dramatic here.
  
  Psychopaths can go on living normal lives, they are clever enough to fool people in thinking they are absolutely fine and seem to derive pleasure in being in power, this is why many in up in high positions. They actually know right from wrong, and can for years curtail their inner wanting to manifest into what they really are.
  
  I’m quite sure that as the digging gets deeper, more and more ‘unusual’ behaviours from JLR will be unearthed.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:24am
  - Souvlaki
    
    ….don’t forget too that some seemingly inexplicably bizarre behaviours may have multiple contributory factors..recall Antonie Dixon anyone ?
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:02am
  - Viking2
    
    Shipton was like that and yet some who post here blamed an MP for not knowing he was bad bastard
    
    Just saying.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:07am
- rangitoto
  
  The waka bill isn’t needed to expel him from the party.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:43am
oldpark

Check out todays Daily Mail UK on line. What a bloody indictment and an abomination and vile sexual attacks on under age young white female girls in UK. No wonder the so called authorities in England muzzled Tommy Robinson for exposing the reality of it all and telling the truth. . He has now been totally vindicated. Just imagine if the vile sexual attacks had been carried out in NZ on such young girls .
Wonder if our far left Lunatic touchy feely Media will cover the indictments in full . Maybe they only report fake news.
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October 20, 2018 8:09am
- Southern Raider
  
  Why does the media refer to them as Asian though? It just defers from stating what real shit holes they come from and what communities they are part of
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:13am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes to me Asians are Chinese, Japanese, Malysaian, Thai etc.
    There needs to be a world for people from the Sub Continent.
    Or why not call them Pakistanis, as that is what most of them are.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:15am
    - Than
      
      There is – South Asians, which roughly includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and (arguably) Nepal and Myanmar. As opposed to East Asians, which includes the countries you mentioned.
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:22am
      - DigNap15
        
        Yes that sounds OK to me, but it needs to be made more popular and universal, so that everyone in the world is on the same page.
        
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        October 20, 2018 8:31am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        No, a paki is a paki, always have been and always will be.
        
        Calling a paki an Asian is a gross insult to Asians.
        
        The fact they can play cricket does not make them any more endearing, they are pretty scummy people without any thought of how they conduct their lives impact upon yours
        
        Attenborough would have them as aholesextremeus.
        
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        October 20, 2018 8:38am
  - Boris Piscina
    
    Well they can’t call them Pakis because that has wacist overtones dating from the 70s;
    
    They can’t say they’re from “the Indian subcontinent” because that would implicate Indian Hindus and Sikhs who are largely peaceable and law-abiding;
    
    They don’t really have a Chinese issue, so saying “Asian” is the remaining safe option.
    
    Of course they could just say Muslim, but that upsets the apologists.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:21am
    - Jack5
      
      Would it be fair on our Stephiestani posters to describe the British paedophiles as “south Asians”?
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:24am
    - MT_Tinman
      
      because that would implicate Indian Hindus and Sikhs who are largely peaceable and law-abiding;
      
      Bullshit!
      
      I suggest you watch court cases, particularly for those pertaining to dishonesty over a period of time.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:42am
  - Jules99
    
    It’a a UK thing. They use the word the groups themselves say they want. I think it stems from the fact that many immigrants were from Pakistan, not India, so they are collectively called ‘Asian’. Odd, I know. ‘Paki’ was a common insult as well, which might have had something to do with it.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:18am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Except that UK East Asians have said they don’t want to be associated with these criminals.
      
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      October 20, 2018 2:55pm
- igm
  
  If Crockery gets her way with refugees we will have same here sooner than you think. It is occurring in Aus and they have many similar sickly liberals who have heads buried in sand.
  Islam is no good to any western country, and those attempting to promote it should be put on the next plane to their respective shitholes of preference.
  In a shop yesterday there was a walking wardrobe with a imam . . . what fucking apparitions. A number of young people let them know in no uncertain terms they were not welcome.
  I was quite surprised!
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:19am
  - I've been to Mecca and you have not!
    
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    I promote Islam, Alhumdullah.
    
    All Praise is due to Allah.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:22am
    - mandk
      
      That’s what all those child rape gangs in England say.
      
      Mind you, that’s not surprising, given what Mohamed did.
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:29am
      - Swifty
        
        I am quite puzzled at times why some people appear to be so proud to declare they ‘believe’ things that are clearly untrue and that somehow their ‘faith’ (belief without evidence) and that their spectacular claims are required to be ‘respected’ by others and not challenged.
        
        This bullshit about gods, prophets, angels, hell etc etc should be mocked, ridiculed and treated like the infantile mewling that it is.
        
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        October 20, 2018 8:41am
    - Swifty
      
      You’re starting to make a dick of yourself here.
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:29am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Starting?
        
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        October 20, 2018 9:00am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Fail Troll.
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:36am
    - VicParking
      
      In AD 627, Muhammad committed an atrocity against the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina: the Qurayza. He beheaded the men and the pubescent boys and enslaved the women and children. In doing this, he wiped an entire tribe “off the map”
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:37am
      - Southern Raider
        
        And why? Because they refused to join his pedo cult
        
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        October 20, 2018 9:09am
    - Woz
      
      Tell Allah, and his kiddy-fiddling accomplice, to fuck off.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:50am
    - lifesgood
      
      Half wit. Go and do some head banging, it might knock some sense into you.
      
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      October 20, 2018 12:48pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes when I see people in Burqas etc I give them an evil stare.
    Its my way of saying I don’t want you here!
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:05am
  - Jules99
    
    I met a young Kiwi graduate a few weeks back who told me she is not allowed to drive because of her ‘culture’. When I suggested she would have to go flatting to be nearer to work, she told me that in her culture women don’t leave home until they are getting married. Unfortunately, she seemed to think it was fine.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:20am
    - igm
      
      How about the full story . . . she was not a Kiwi, just another fakeugee!
      
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      October 20, 2018 12:38pm
    - MCos
      
      Interesting you should mention that.
      My son had a house built up in the Bay of Islands. Next door was a brand new house ready to move in, but the poor sod that owned it had to stay living with his parents until he was married.
      There were a number of people from the same branch of Christianity in the neighbourhood.
      A couple of years later and nothing’s changed.
      There’s a whole bunch of these people in that locality.
      
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      October 20, 2018 1:50pm
- Harkman
  
  A few years back I told some lefty Scandinavian academic economists that if they (and by “they” there was a clear understanding I was referring to Western Europe) don’t get the middle eastern pack rapists under control, a far right group will emerge to balance the situation or dangerous vigilante groups will start that are somewhere between soccer hooligans and the Mafia. The Swedish woman present (with links to the Social Democrats) gave me the “maybe in NZ or Australia but we’re too sophisticated in Europe” line. This was before Aunty Angela let in a million Syrians.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:19am
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman, one of your big fantasy moments yet again?
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:21am
    - Harkman
      
      We all know that the only fantasizing going on around here is you and something special.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:35am
    - Tall Man
      
      Are you sure Ardern approved of that post?
      
      Do you need to pass all comments by her or do you just repeat what you have been fed by labour HQ?
      
      Is Ardern a liar?
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:43am
- Classic Liberal
  
  ‘He has now been totally vindicated. ‘
  
  Oldpark, anyone who looked at the evidence knew that years ago. But nice if the MSM and Police are bothering to catch up.
  
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  October 20, 2018 2:53pm
All_on_Red

So what’s the bet we will see a photo of Meghan Merkle holding baby Neve?
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October 20, 2018 8:17am
- dog_eat_dog
  
  I will not give odds on this because it’s almost certain to happen.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:22am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red, why not?
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:53am
- stigie
  
  “photo of Meghan Merkle holding baby Neve?”
  
  Im gushing with excitement, i just can’t wait !~ //
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:53am
  - stephieboy
    
    Yes I’m sure the Women’s mags are queuing up and a leading news items onMSM!
    
    Enjoy the ride.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:24am
    - Happychappy
      
      It won’t be the one you take Stephieboy as i am not into goats.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:30am
    - KevOB
      
      Fee: $50K.
      
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      October 20, 2018 7:11pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Merkle?
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:09pm
- marcw
  
  I think the TAB will be paying odds of about 0.05/1.00 on that proposal.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:56am
  - Viking2
    
    Lotto big prise tonight over 1 billion dollars.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:26am
- Harkman
  
  I thought that we were supposed to respect the baby’s privacy? “Families are off limits” they tell us.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:24am
- Tall Man
  
  In the Michael Jackson hold?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:44am
- MCos
  
  Shock Horror
  
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  October 20, 2018 1:52pm
DigNap15

Here is more collateral damage from Andrew Little

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12145335

He was out on “strict” parole conditions.
He should be inside for ever.
Why do we accept people with an anger problem walking around our community.

One strike and you are in!
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October 20, 2018 8:18am
- igm
  
  When is one of these vile bastards going to have direct personal impact on Little or one of his crim-hugging sycophants?
  Surely law of averages will see it occur . . . hopefully sooner than later!
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:22am
  - Inandout
    
    igm, it never seems to happen to CoL extended families. Of course statistically it will happen, not that I wish that kind of crime on anyone, but when the types like Little cuddle up to scum they will get the fleas.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:36am
  - VicParking
    
    With 10,000 inmates about to be released I think the odds are shortening.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:40am
    - igm
      
      Unfortunately the odds reducing make us more vulnerable also.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:57am
      - sooty
        
        Wooden it have a chance to happen if Labours sexually deviate went inside for it’s crime. Or is it’s parents special and it wooden happen?
        
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        October 20, 2018 11:07am
- MT_Tinman
  
  In part of the story this scumbag is described as “this young man”.
  
  He’s 35 for fuck’s sake!
  
  Just a couple of years away from being old enough to fuck the entire country.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:27am
  - sooty
    
    Youth adjacent, I do believe!
    
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    October 20, 2018 11:09am
- waikatogirl
  
  He’s a walking time bomb.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:37am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

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Salaam Kiwibloggers

May Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, bless you with goodness.
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October 20, 2018 8:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  May the trusted hand of David Bain be your paperboy
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:43am
- VicParking
  
  Hundreds of bodies – too many to count – remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic attack that Amnesty International described as the “deadliest massacre” in the history of Boko Haram.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:43am
  - DigNap15
    
    So what are Amnesty International going to do about it?
    Ask western troops to go in their and sort it out?
    Ask our SAS to go in their and risk their lives and Nicki Hagar writing a book on them.
    And what about the Taleban killing hundreds at schools.
    Maybe the Pope will ask them to stop.
    Or the Head of the United Nations we never hear from.
    Such a nice religion.
    Time to burn every mosque to the ground.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:03am
    - stephieboy
      
      Didnap15, what are the US Troops there doing about it?
      
      https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/28/605662771/the-military-doesnt-advertise-it-but-u-s-troops-are-all-over-africa
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:07am
    - Harkman
      
      “So what are Amnesty International going to do about it?” Lobby our government to take in some of Boko Haram’s members and have softer prison sentences.
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:27am
      - rangitoto
        
        They just need golf lessons.
        
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        October 20, 2018 9:49am
    - VicParking
      
      Send Golli in to defend them
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:46am
      - Harkman
        
        And then she’ll lie about it.
        
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        October 20, 2018 11:21am
    - I've been to Mecca and you have not!
      
      “Time to burn every mosque to the ground.”
      
      Is that a threat?
      
      THAT’S ILLEGAL UNDER NZ LAW!!!
      
      Farrar, when are you going to stop this???
      
      Do I need to report this blog to the Police?
      
      Farrar?
      
      Farrar?
      
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      October 20, 2018 10:17am
      - Swifty
        
        No need to get your panties in a twist.
        
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        October 20, 2018 10:27am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        “I’ve been to Mecca and you have not!”
        
        Who of sound mind would want to go to that effing shithole?
        
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        October 20, 2018 10:56am
    - igm
      
      Dig: You are correct . . . we do not need these noisy (five times daily) eyesores, in western Christian developed countries.
      
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      October 20, 2018 12:42pm
- Woz
  
  Has Allah blessed that Christian woman in Pakistan yet?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:53am
- lilman
  
  lol,fuck your camel.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:59am
Tarquin North

Shane Jones was speaking at a BA5 I attended yesterday afternoon. Here is the condensed version of his speech. I am the world’s greatest orator and saviour of Northlañd. Rail is great. I really need to win a seat up here in the next election. I will give you these lollies if you vote for me. What highway? Winston is God. The end. The odd bad joke chucked in to pad things out, the bloke is an absolute bore and regards us as peasants who should fawn over his every word.
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October 20, 2018 8:25am
- Inandout
  
  Quite a lonely ‘Mrs Palmer’ hotel type dweller to boot.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:39am
  - Paulus
    
    Hearing the name Palmer how is the new Constitutional Committee under Geoffrey Palmer doing updating the MMP rules to read 3% limit and the new interpretation of the Treaty into Maori agreed and understood English ?
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:58am
  - Vory v zakone
    
    Not quite lonely. Jones’ blond hotel ‘companion’ at the time was not his wife (at the time)
    
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    October 21, 2018 1:23am
- VicParking
  
  At the end of the speech did the masses pick up their spades and head out to plant trees for God Winston, taker of alms from the masters of Equus caballus.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:47am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No, there were sausage rolls to be had
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:03am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Sadly, there were quite a few spontaneous out breaks of fawning and clapping. I don’t why NZF are so popular up here, Brian Donelly was the only one who did anything for us.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:04am
    - sooty
      
      I think you will find that sausage rolls no longer sufice after Angrys shindig!
      
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      October 20, 2018 11:13am
- Woz
  
  Ah, dear Shane. God has put wind into a lot of windbags throughout His career, but when it came to Shane He certainly excelled Himself.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:56am
Gravelroad

Tracy Watkins reckons today that National should “reach out to rogue MP” Ross and broker a peace deal before anyone else gets hurt.
Errrr – what does that mean in reality?
Invite him round for afternoon tea to discuss how we can work together going forward in the best interests of the Party? No.
How can any employer deal with a sick man like Ross?
Only option is to totally sideline him somehow and get on with the job of providing an viable government in waiting.
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October 20, 2018 8:27am
- VicParking
  
  More chance of asking Winston to go into coalition.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:48am
- tas
  
  That ship has sailed. How could they trust him to keep his end of the bargain?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:04am
- harrygee
  
  The same Watkins theme of brokering a deal has been bandied about on other blogs. The idea that some sort of arrangement can be struck with JLR. But to do that, people would first need to quit all the wishful thinking and pull the blinkers off to understand what precisely he wants. This involves tracing his motivation and the motivation of anyone who has helped him get to this point.
  
  He is willing to be highly destructive – that is obvious. His strategy is not reactive – he has largely set the agenda at each and every step. He seems to have contingencies in place that have been thought-through.
  
  Dismissing it all (as is increasingly the case in comments sections around here) as him just seeking personal financial gain or merely being unhinged is not the answer anymore – that isn’t driving this now.
  
  JLR doesn’t just want the resignation of Bridges and Bennett, he clearly wants something far greater and has been preparing over a very long period of time (and now executing) a war plan.
  
  And whatever is negotiated will have to pass the sniff test. And not be a response to blackmail. The broader public will be very sceptical now of any peace deal that looks like an attempt to coverup and shutdown what goes on behind closed doors between MPs and journalists, including sexual relationships used to sustain and skew the narratives that are fed to voters. The open secrets of the beltway are now very much in the public’s line of sight. Human instinct is to be an old gossip and mock anyone with profile and position, especially holier-than-thou politicians and political journalists.
  
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  October 20, 2018 10:04am
  - sooty
    
    Give him gardening leave after having his vote for the rest of term. He stays home on pay to find another job.
    
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    October 20, 2018 11:15am
- Jules99
  
  Huh? Why does a journalist want to silence a rogue MP who is good copy? Is she worried about whose secrets could be exposed?
  
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  October 20, 2018 10:25am
  - harrygee
    
    A few journalists do seem quite compromised on all of this. If they start ignoring JLR or limiting his coverage, or go further and trash him, no doubt they worry their past colourful relationships with various people during periods of high political drama might become more widely known. It’s probably a nightmare for editors this weekend, working out which journalists on their payrolls they can task to JLR coverage and which ones are better going on annual leave for a bit in the hope things blow over.
    
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    October 20, 2018 10:49am
- lifesgood
  
  OOOh, er, what doesn’t she want to come out?
  
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  October 20, 2018 12:53pm
Morrissey

Liars of Our Time
No. 59: JUDITH COLLINS

“I just feel SO SORRY for his wife and family. It’s so appalling…..”

—Judith “Crusher” Collins, a.m., TV3, Friday 19 October 2018, 7:26 a.m.

hypocrite n. 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs; 2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

Keep up with ALL the Liars….
https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/liars-of-our-time.html
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October 20, 2018 8:30am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Idiot alert.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:44am
  - Swifty
    
    He really is a huge dork isn’t he?
    
    Sleazy too.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:47am
- VicParking
  
  Morrissey n. 1. a person who has an IQ of less than 65 who lives under a bridge and spends his time writing indecipherable rubbish on blogs. AKA. Troll
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:53am
MT_Tinman

what does that mean in reality?

I’m sure it means National leaders should invite Ross and his tape recorder around on a regular weekly basis to discuss personal and party affairs.

Watkins be a bright, intelligent, completely neutral observer and all.
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October 20, 2018 8:31am
dog_eat_dog

I love how Twitter and racists are implying Chinese dirty money is buying seats from National and how the Nats are selling out our democracy.

Remind me, do the unions directly elect the Labour leader, did Labour introduce the EFA which excluded union campainging from restrictions and do the unions throw massive amounts of support behind Labour in elections but still struggle to basic things like filing stat accounts?

Because the ones with the proven track record of partisan legislation favouring their donors isn’t National.
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October 20, 2018 8:32am
- oldpark
  
  @at dog eat dog
  “Our Democracy” check out how that went at the 2017 election results. How “foxy” Peters helped himself.Nuff said.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:42am
- Prince
  
  ssshh. Don’t wake the journalists.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:59am
- Paulus
  
  Do not many of the leading Auckland Chinese people give Money to both National and Labour – conveniently forgotten currently.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:00am
Lee C

And did dirty Russian money mean we have theWaka-Jumping Act in NZ?
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October 20, 2018 8:46am
- stephieboy
  
  Lee C, Nope!
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:50am
  - VicParking
    
    Morning Stephie, I’m pleased to see you use a nom de plume. I would hate it that your reputation could be sullied in any way if convicted of anything.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10497756
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:00am
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘You are a sad case, really,” Judge Callaghan said. “This is such perverse and depraved behaviour it reflects a person of enormous deficiency in personality.”
      At his earlier appearance the court was told the man believed he wouldn’t get caught because “animals couldn’t talk” and he wouldn’t be “told on”
      
      The Silence of the Goats eh
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:07am
    - Swifty
      
      That’s cruel! 🙂
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:26am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Police said the man admitted taking the goat to the rear of his small lifestyle property in a rural township and trying to have sex with it. After the unsuccessful attempt, the man did up his trousers, patted the goat and walked off.
      
      Hmmm…
      
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      October 20, 2018 10:29am
      - stigie
        
        Please don’t stop there Nostra, i thought there was going to be some riveting arousing stuff in the back paddock of Stiffy’s lifestyle block..?
        
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        October 20, 2018 10:59am
      - sooty
        
        Stephie, when did you say, you moved to Auckland again.
        
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        October 20, 2018 11:18am
    - GoVege
      
      Did the goat learn to talk miraculously, or did some nosy parker dob this old dude in?
      So long as the goat is not harmed, surely it’s better than him bothering humans?
      
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      October 20, 2018 1:34pm
Keeping Stock

Dear media

Please stop giving Jamie-Lee Ross oxygen. Starve him of the recognition he needs to feed his Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and he might just go away.

Yours helpfully

KS
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October 20, 2018 8:56am
- DigNap15
  
  I agree, but
  Fat chance of that.
  The media are mostly left wing
  And its in their argenda to keep it going, as it takes the heat of the COL.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:59am
  - tas
    
    To be fair, they would report this if it was a rogue Labour MP. The media are biased, but this is not an example. They would be accused of a biased coverup if they failed to report this story.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:09am
    - sooty
      
      Look how quiet they were with the sex camp!
      
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      October 20, 2018 11:20am
- stephieboy
  
  KS, unhelpfully why can’t Bennett and Jamie stop having affairs with each other?
  
  https://stuffednz.com/jami-lee-ross-admits-affair-with-paula-bennett/
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:01am
  - Swifty
    
    Are you serious?
    
    Fuck me, you’re the one who constantly attempts to ridicule others for quoting from websites you deem unworthy.
    
    Do you not know what stuffednz is?
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:20am
    - stephieboy
      
      Yes,
      
      https://stuffednz.com/air-nz-to-remove-one-wing-from-each-plane-in-cost-cutting-exercise/
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:31am
      - Swifty
        
        WTF?
        
        Just what is your malfunction?
        
        Genuine question.
        
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        October 20, 2018 9:33am
- harrygee
  
  The traditional media are no longer really in control of the oxygen anymore, that’s the problem. They cover it or they get left behind in the wake of social media. An audio recording – if he’s got another one – that exposes a politician politically or personally would go off like dynamite on Facebook or Twitter and leave political editors with no option but to cover it.
  
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  October 20, 2018 10:57am
Swifty

Has Morrissey’s crap this morning been banished to the ether yet again?

Fuck that must piss him off big time.

Good job.
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October 20, 2018 9:23am
- Harkman
  
  I wonder where JLR will sit on his list? Right next to the Young Labour groper perhaps?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:32am
- Morrissey
  
  Has Morrissey’s crap this morning been banished to the ether yet again?
  
  Not at all. It’s easily retrieved, along with all the attendant angry comments, HERE….
  
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/10/liars-of-our-time-no-59-judith-crusher.html
  
  Fuck that must piss him off big time.
  
  Not a bit, my friend, not a bit. I understand how touchy and vulnerable all National Party supporters are right now. It’s kind of the same reaction I get over on The Standard whenever I criticize the bejewelled and dazzling #MeToo divas, or when I pointed out that Barack Obama was a fraud and a mass murderer….
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/its-michelle-obamas-marie-antoinette.html
  
  Good job.
  
  Well, yes, if you support censorship, it is.
  
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  October 20, 2018 12:54pm
  - Swifty
    
    Link whore.
    
    Sleazy too.
    
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    October 20, 2018 1:56pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Excellent then, please confirm that you think Ardern is a liar?
    
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    October 20, 2018 6:00pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Could you elucidate for us, please, Lofty?
      
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      October 20, 2018 7:31pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Are the risks and consequences associated with high multiple lending adequately understood in Australia and New Zealand ? …

Does negative equity loom ? … Martin North … Digital Finance Analytics … YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUJtgcmGciw
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… CONSIDERING THE 2007 IRISH EXPERIENCE …THE MASSIVE RISKS OF MULTIPLE STRETCH … CENTRAL BANK OF IRELAND RESEARCH …

The unweighted average median multiples of its metros in 2007 was 4.7, which crashed to 2.8 in subsequent years … putting all its Banks to the wall and requiring bailouts of in excess of 70 billion euro … about $NZ109 billion.

Currently the average unweighted Median Multiples for the Australian and New Zealand metros overall are about 5.9 and 5.8 respectively … refer …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm

Research by the Central Bank of Ireland found high lending multipoles was the greatest problem (more so than high loan to value ratios) … and subsequently imposed a general mortgage cap of 3.5 times annual household income. A year earlier the Bank of England had generallycapped at 4.5 times annual household income …

Mortgage Measures | Central Bank of Ireland
… access extensive background research via link …

https://www.centralbank.ie/financial-system/financial-stability/macro-prudential-policy/mortgage-measures
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Access background info … yesterdays posts … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/10/general_debate_19_october_2017-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-2336487
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October 20, 2018 9:42am
DigNap15

Why are these leakers still use tape?
I thought tape went out years ago
Now most of us use digital and phones etc.
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October 20, 2018 10:07am
Maggy Wassilieff

More on the Huddersfield Grooming gang – 20 men convicted of trafficking, drugging and raping young girls.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/19/yorkshire-grooming-gang-jailed-rape-abuse
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October 20, 2018 10:38am
- Nostradamus
  
  Where’s Stephieboy?
  
  The 20 men convicted were:
  • Amere Singh Dhaliwal
  • Irfan Ahmed
  • Zahid Hassan
  • Mohammed Kammer
  • Mohammed Rizwan Aslam
  • Abdul Rehman
  • Raj Singh Barsran
  • Nahman Mohammed
  • Mansoor Akhtar
  • Wiqas Mahmud
  • Nasarat Hussain
  • Sajid Hussain
  • Mohammed Irfraz
  • Faisal Nadeem
  • Mohammed Azeem
  • Manzoor Hassan
  • Niaz Ahmed
  • Mohammed Imran Ibrar
  • Asif Bashir
  • Mohammed Akram
  
  There are 7 Mohammeds in that list.
  
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  October 20, 2018 10:43am
  - DigNap15
    
    I can’t believe how stupid the British people are to let such scum in and stay in.
    They should deport all Pakistanis
    Then all muslims
    Then all Africans
    
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    October 20, 2018 11:02am
    - stephieboy
      
      Including Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris and other British serial paleface sex abuse offenders?
      
      e.g https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-45527475
      
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      October 20, 2018 11:24am
      - DigNap15
        
        Jimmy Saville – yes
        Rolf Harris no – most of his targets were mature women, celebs, news readers etc, who should be perfectly capable of telling him to f.. off!
        Saville targeted young girls!
        
        But having a few paleface crims does not excuse the hundreds of PAKISTANI groomers and rapists who target poor vulnerable girls! (not their own!)
        
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        October 20, 2018 12:27pm
      - cha
        
        Rolf Harris no – most of his targets were mature women
        
        Except for the seven year old….and the thirteen year old…..
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/04/rolf-harris-youngest-victim-wendy-wild-appeal-conviction
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/14/rolf-harris-dirty-old-man-abused-victim-years
        
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        October 20, 2018 12:55pm
      - Morrissey
        
        the hundreds of PAKISTANI groomers and rapists who target poor vulnerable girls! (not their own!)
        
        DigNap15, you write with the confidence and obvious erudition of a scholar! I’m sure you did not just make up that statement (in the words of some meaner souls, “pulled it out of your arse.”)
        
        Just to satisfy a few negative nancies, my friend, could you make clear just where you got that remarkable statistic?
        
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        October 20, 2018 1:30pm
      - lilman
        
        Just shoot those pricks,stephie .
        
        Then send every Muslim packing back home to shitting in the street and trying to screw children in the name of ALLAN…opps Allah, lying peto that he was.
        
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        October 20, 2018 3:55pm
      - Tall Man
        
        So I guess you can’t get back in?
        
        Is Ardern a liar?
        
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        October 20, 2018 5:56pm
    - marcw
      
      I’m just upticking for your second group DN15 – many many immigrants in the UK from the other areas contribute a lot to their community, notably in medical and transport roles.
      
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      October 20, 2018 11:35am
      - Tall Man
        
        Doctors and train drivers?
        
        Really?
        
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        October 20, 2018 5:57pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The tragedy is that it has taken numerous (successful) trials before politicians in Great Britain have started to acknowledge that they have a serious problem with British-Pakistani Men operating sex-grooming gangs.
    
    https://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/uk-orders-research-into-ethnicity-of-sex-grooming-gangs-1.754357
    
    Still, few British politicians are willing to wade in the waters of this tragic mess:
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12662/britain-parliament-grooming-gangs
    
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    October 20, 2018 1:30pm
  - Vory v zakone
    
    Yeah but how many Ralphs from Mt Eden on that pedo list?
    
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    October 21, 2018 1:32am
- Morrissey
  
  President Trump might be interested in putting one or two of the worst of them in his Cabinet of Grotesques.
  
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  October 20, 2018 1:15pm
  - Tall Man
    
    You keen on heading off to work for Trump?
    
    That’s a surprise.
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    October 20, 2018 5:54pm
    - Morrissey
      
      I’ll go if Hope Hicks is still there.
      
      Too right I would.
      
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      October 20, 2018 7:33pm
Fletch

Remember how before we knew JLR was the leaker and he was playing the victim card so he wouldn’t be exposed –

A person claiming to be the National Party leaker has sent an anonymous text to National Party leader Simon Bridges pleading for the inquiry into the leaking of his expenses to be called off, RNZ has learned.

Sources have told RNZ Mr Bridges and the Speaker Trevor Mallard both received an anonymous text message last week from a person claiming to be responsible for leaking the information to Newshub.

The author of the text warned they suffered from mental health problems in the past and said being exposed publicly could push them over the edge and put their life at risk.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/364796/exclusive-text-plea-to-call-off-bridges-expense-leak-inquiry

That was only two short months ago. People like this often pretend they are weak and helpless to gain sympathy before showing their true side – it reminded me of this scene from Revenge of the Sith.

https://youtu.be/q0r4jNhG9Z4?t=234
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October 20, 2018 11:17am
- marcw
  
  If Simon Bridges hadn’t insisted on continuing with the PWC inquiry, this may have festered under the radar until the 2020 election campaign. Allowing MSM scum like Reid et al to release the grenades to disrupt the democratic process.
  
  Political and strategy masterstroke Simon, thank you.
  
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  October 20, 2018 11:40am
  - Tall Man
    
    At least he didn’t try the labour method, hide it, deny it, leave town early, get some poofter to drop it into the news cycle late Friday.
    
    He has shown true leadership in this mess.
    
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    October 20, 2018 5:49pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, if he says he has mental problems, he shodu be removed from parliament.
  Along with Claire Curran and Megan Woods and Willie Jackson and Kelvin Davis.
  
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  October 20, 2018 12:29pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Winston? Isn’t blatant lying a symptom of a mental disorder? Either way, his constant sneering lies under privilege gives me the shits.
    
    https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/compulsive-lying
    
    Thought so…Winston and the tooth fairy to a tee.
    
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    October 20, 2018 5:52pm
sooty

I have given up on national. The only thing that could get me back would be JC, been leader.
I still hate Jacinda Shit For Brains and all her cronies!
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October 20, 2018 11:24am
- peterwn
  
  If you abstain or vote for a minor candidate you give Winston/Jacinda half a vote. So it is matter of voting for the least evil.
  Even though I like Judith Collins and would not mind if she did become leader, there seems to reservations in some quarters about her suitability for leadership.
  
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  October 20, 2018 11:38am
- stephieboy
  
  sooty. life is full of surprises.
  
  Sigh!
  
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  October 20, 2018 11:44am
  - sooty
    
    I would vote for anyone other than COL. The local mp is wet!
    
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    October 20, 2018 1:43pm
  - lilman
    
    like finding out your wife is older than 18.
    
    Muslim worst nightmare I would think being hitched with a old maid.
    
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    October 20, 2018 3:58pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
    Got you on the run steffy boy. I actually think you’re a girl not a boy but you want people to think you’re tough so you post all the aggressive insults. I think you may be a mate of Helen’s and Heather’s or even worse…Mau the dog.
    
    Either way, you’re too scared to answer truthfully with..”shit yeah, the bucktoothed bitch is a fucking liar”.
    
    Go on, you’ll feel much better….
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    October 20, 2018 5:47pm
- Tall Man
  
  So you don’t care about the policies, just the front person.
  
  At least you still have the class to dislike this try hard. She is an embarrassment.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaESzRNMVeI
  
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  October 20, 2018 5:43pm
SimpleJack

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6295277/Horrifying-moment-thug-grabs-terrified-pensioner-hurls-ground.html

Hard to feel sorry for him. This is what Boomers wanted. These New English cook such tasty dishes!

“As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.” Isaiah 3:12

“Strangers devour your land in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.” Isaiah 1:7
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October 20, 2018 12:27pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  SimpleJack, no thanks to any misogynist aspects of religion, including your bible quotes and the quran’s sura 4:34:
  
  “Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.”
  
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  October 20, 2018 3:12pm
  - SimpleJack
    
    You’re a cuck.
    
    It’s not misogyny. Cuckbois need to recede and concede. It’s simply an empirical correlation. Female political leaders almost always support open borders and massive expansions in welfare states and call it ‘compassion’ or whatever is fashionable. That pensioner got wrecked because he believed lies about human relations peddled primarily by female leaders like Barbara Roche.
    
    And yes, islam is correct about women. That’s why they will sweep away westerners in all their states with female rulers. Italy won’t be swept away. Neither will Hungary. Margaret Thatcher is the sole exception. In a mere 40 years feminists have managed to destroy human relations in the west. Totally. 30 years even. Imagine that. In 30 years women in positions of social authority so debase social relations and economies that entire nations are too demoralised to even perpetuate.
    
    If you’re a lolbertarian, spare us your SJWisms on the Bible thanks. Isaiah is almost word perfect specific in its prescience.
    
    There is not point harping on and on and on with the same note. But it is what it is. No can feel sorry for Jews or for Boomers who get attacked and killed or wounded by the people they vouched for, imported and erected mass stste coercive anti speech laws to facilitate. How can one have sympathy for people who get what they want? One should celebrate. So lets raise a toast to boomer pensioners getting fucked up by the invaders they feted. Only the young with no choice deserve empathy.
    
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    October 21, 2018 7:31am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Yikes, I pity your wife, if you think islamists are right about beating wives!
      
      I’m not in the least sympathetic to open borders, false ‘refugees’ or hateful theocrats – islamist or whatever you pretend to be. I know good Christians and I respect many of the teachings of the new testament and try to live by the golden rule.
      
      I don’t know what ‘cuck’ means, but it doesn’t sound like a word a true Christian would use.
      
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      October 21, 2018 2:29pm
waikatogirl

Anyone remember the virtue signalling of The Warehouse paying ‘the Living Wage’ to their employees, along with it not just being a job but a career? Last week I went to the Warehouse only to discover they have done away with employing checkout staff and instead installed self-service machines. What’s that all about Warehouse??
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October 20, 2018 1:47pm
- MCos
  
  What would you rather have?
  Fewer people paid more or more people paid a pittance?
  
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  October 20, 2018 1:56pm
  - MCos
    
    I’m not sure how things like Working for Families work, but it seems to me it’s a way for the taxpayer to take up the slack when these cheap retail barns pay their staff as little as possible.
    
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    October 20, 2018 2:10pm
    - sooty
      
      Hay, what about all the other people that do not have children. Single, married, divoiced, elderly all shafted!
      
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      October 20, 2018 4:09pm
    - Tall Man
      
      My advice is that when you don’t know how something works you leave it alone.
      
      WFF has been around for over 10 years and a regular commenter should have some idea how it works.
      
      As sooty says, it’s another form of dole or benefit. The upside is people get paid for having children. The downside is that people get paid for having children…..
      
      Unfortunately for them, any wage increase is offset by an equal benefit decrease so once you’re on it, you stagnate fiscally.
      
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      October 20, 2018 5:38pm
  - sooty
    
    More people on the dole?
    
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    October 20, 2018 4:11pm
- DigNap15
  
  Every wage rise (like for the last 10 years on the first of April, and the next few years) is a nail in the coffin for workers.
  It gives an incentive for employers to look for ways to cut costs, to keep their prices low.
  And it make automation more affordable.
  
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  October 20, 2018 3:00pm
wiseowl

The real story to be alarmed about is on Stuff now.
Zhang and the sellout by our politicians of our once fine country.
Politicians roll over to big money coming from a communist regime.
Appalling.
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October 20, 2018 1:59pm
- Tall Man
  
  And we all know about the veracity of Stuff, the alternate labour media outlet.
  
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  October 20, 2018 5:34pm
DigNap15

The real story is the well over 1 million kiwis who deserted NZ to go and live in Australia over the last 50 years which means that our NZ values are diluted.
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October 20, 2018 3:02pm
Hugh Pavletich

… NEW ZEALAND: When are the long – term ‘culture issues’ of the National (Conservative) Party going to be addressed ? …

Alleged National donor Yikun Zhang bringing 1000 well-connected compatriots to NZ … Stuff NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/107915296/alleged-national-donor-yikun-zhang-bringing-1000-wellconnected-compatriots-to-nz?cid=app-iPad

… They had all the time in the world for the above activities … yet deliberately failed their fellow New Zealanders solving the housing crisis … deservedly losing the 2017 election as a result …

Gone Gone Going Section – Parformance Urban Planning
… The demise of the New Zealand National Party …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html

… The National Party long – term ‘culture issues’ are far deeper than is currently being portrayed on Kiwiblog …

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/
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October 20, 2018 6:00pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … 27 August 2017 … prior to the election … COPY … PAVLETICH GENERAL EMAIL …
  
  … How could PM English and Deputy PM Bennett have been so dumb ?
  
  … Perception is reality in politics …
  
  National Party auctions off ice axe signed by Sir Edmund Hillary to raise funds for campaign … Nicole Lawton … Fairfax New Zealand
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96019247/national-party-auctions-off-ice-axe-signed-by-sir-edmund-hillary-to-raise-funds-for-campaign
  
  … extracts …
  
  … But perhaps the greater attraction was the opportunity to meet the Prime Minister and his deputy, Paula Bennett, to pose for photos with them, to schmooze.
  
  The Prime Minister put himself up for auction: one lucky (and wealthy) donor and 10 close friends won the a dinner date with the English, “at your favourite restaurant” after the election. (Cost of the dinner not included).
  
  A Chinese community leader said such appearances would hold enormous prestige within the culture.
  
  “The implied Chinese business culture is around guanxi, which means relationship. Whoever won that dinner would be highly regarded because they hold a special bond with New Zealand Prime Minister.”
  
  They said if the dinner went well, the successful bidder might enjoy increased business opportunities in the future because of it. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Crony Chronicles: I Want To Be A Crony – YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aO9tA5DWJM
  
  … Johan Norberg explains what ethical Capitalism is all about …
  
  The Real Adam Smith: Morality and Markets – Full Video … YouTube
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6S6pMsKzlI
  
  … The above video will be used as a foundation for the re-education of National Party politicians and members … when the Party is deservedly sent to the Opposition benches 23 September.
  
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  October 20, 2018 10:08pm
Prince

The Sunday Star Times has been relaunching itself with new columnists, new investigative reporters etc etc.
And wow just look at this example of outstanding journalism from tomorrow’s edition. Hope they’re not sold out before I get up.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108000337/excited-5yearold-gets-rescued-by-pm-jacinda-ardern
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October 20, 2018 7:00pm
- nasska
  
  From Prince’s link:
  
  ….”She saw Jacinda and got really excited. She has always wanted to meet her.”…..
  
  Poor little kid. What chance has she of a normal upbringing with parents who would condone such screwed up hero worshipping?
  
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  October 20, 2018 7:33pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    She saw Jacinda and got really excited
    
    She’s shown an early interest in equine dentistry, which is unusual for a 5-year-old!
    
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    October 20, 2018 7:43pm
Muttonbird

Aww, how lovely…

Anya Whiteacre’s mother, Narelle, said her family went to Auckland’s Diwali celebrations on Saturday where the PM was speaking.

“She saw Jacinda and got really excited. She has always wanted to meet her.

“So we waited around after she finished at the chance of fulfilling her dream,” said Whiteacre.

But the young girl’s excitement got the better of her, and when she saw her chance, she took off and ran through the crowd of people shouting “Jacinda, Jacinda”

Kiwibloggers, don’t hate this child because she wanted to meet the Prime Minister!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108000337/excited-5yearold-gets-rescued-by-pm-jacinda-ardern
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October 20, 2018 7:43pm
- nasska
  
  I for one don’t hate the child yet I cringe at the embarrassment she will feel in adulthood when she realises how she was set up & used by the Labour Party spinmeisters.
  
  If you want to run an ad get the moths out of your wallets & pay for an adult actor!
  
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  October 20, 2018 7:53pm
  - cha
    
    *cough* Aroha Ireland
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:01pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘mikenmildagain
      
      Whataboutism is always a popular recourse for the ignorant.
      OCTOBER 19, 2018 7:55PM’
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:12pm
- Morrissey
  
  I’m afraid, Muttonbird, that a small but vehement minority of posters here—and even more so on Whale Oil—suffer from an embarrassing anti-social condition known as “Jacinda Derangement Syndrome.”
  
  Perhaps the funniest example of this affliction presented right here eleven days ago, when a barely literate cove called RF spewed forth the following foul excrescence:
  
  “I am struggling to express my outrage at the whoring of the baby by Ardern. Ardern is a self centered stupid fuking idiot that is becoming worse every time she open her wide yap.”
  
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/10/howler-of-day-no-7-rf-oct-11-2018.html
  
  I’m afraid that, as the National Party sinks even more into the tar pits of its own depravity and ineptitude, we’re going to see a lot more of such derangement and hatred.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:18pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Just not sure why the right wing hate babies so much.
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:35pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      While we know why Union management scum exploit workers
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:40pm
- MrTips
  
  Shes a politician, not a bloody prophet. One could care less if it was Ardern, Key, English or Clark.
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:20pm
Morrissey

As Israel braces for border clashes, Palestinian militants call for nonviolent protests

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/10/19/those-dastardly-duplicitous-arabs/
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October 20, 2018 7:56pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Non violent protests’
  – snigger
  Hey Morrissey
  When Hamas put children in front of bomb throwing terrorists, how far behind those children is the correct place to stand?
  One foot or three?
  
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  October 20, 2018 8:00pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Your ignorance is staggering. Go away, fool.
    
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    October 20, 2018 8:06pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Go away?
      Like Mahmoud Abbas does on his $50,000,000 Private Jet?
      You’re a gullible idiot Morrissey
      
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      October 20, 2018 8:13pm
Morrissey

The Wehrmacht Prepares to Crush the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/10/19/the-wehrmacht-prepares-to-crush-the-warsaw-ghetto-uprising/
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October 20, 2018 7:58pm
gorse

Read Stuff “Jacinda Jacinda” , makes you want to vomit
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October 20, 2018 8:40pm
- Morrissey
  
  You’ve been struck with Jacinda Derangement Syndrome. Take a lie down, chump.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:15pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Well she has been starved of oxygen lately with all the National stuff.
    
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    October 21, 2018 10:37am
Jack5

Could this be a better option for electric vehicles than recharging?

A Chinese car maker is promoting the idea of battery swapping:

https://www.wired.com/story/the-faster-cheaper-better-way-to-charge-electric-vehicles/?CNDID=27594376&CNDID=27594376&mbid=nl_101918_daily_list1_p4&utm_brand=wired&utm_mailing=WIRED%20NL%20101918%20(1)&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl
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October 20, 2018 8:54pm
- rangitoto
  
  Tesla were doing that in the US a couple of years ago but shut down the program in favour of “supercharger” stations.
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:29pm
Jack5

New Zealand racehorses used to be big in the Melbourne Cup and Caulfield Cup, but they have finished well back in the Caulfield Cup:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/racing/best-solution-wins-caulfield-cup-20181020-p50axx.html
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October 20, 2018 9:09pm
- Morrissey
  
  Blame it on Labour?
  
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  October 20, 2018 9:15pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Definitely Neve’s fault…
    
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    October 20, 2018 9:36pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Nah.
      Jacinda the liars
      They’re adding up. The number of lies will start chipping away
      
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      October 20, 2018 9:42pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      No it isn’t and nor is it her fault the name that her parents chose for her. I have to think that she will be having to correct peoples pronunciation and spelling of it all of her life.. Quite surprising from parents whose names would have had them similarly afflicted during theirs.
      
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      October 21, 2018 10:40am
nasska

Morrissey’s 2018 New Year’s resolution was to have a wank for every day of the year……

As at this morning he’s at 364…..so far, so good! 🙂
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