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krazykiwi

Derek Handley has unwittingly become living testimony to the truth in Benjamin Franklin’s proverb If you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

He’ll be scratching for some time I should think.
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October 1, 2018 8:00am
- cmm
  
  Please remind me which are the dogs and which are the fleas?
  
  From looking at the texts, oone would have to conclude that Handley was no innocent bystander in this. He helped to define the role and set up the “opportunity”.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:25am
  - sooty
    
    Cindy’s certainly no innocent dog!
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:56am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Virtue signalling does not make one virtuous.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:38am
- Harkman
  
  One difference, Ben Franklin wouldn’t have hung around with commie a-holes in the first place.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:08am
radvad

While Jacinda pontificates about “kind” government in New York, a minister back home is demoted because she assaulted a staff member.
You could not make this stuff up.
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October 1, 2018 8:01am
- igm
  
  radvad: Dealing with PSA/COL-aligned bureaucrats daily would possibly make any sane person feel like giving them the bash, maybe even the big bash!
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:04am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Being bored to death by bureaucrats is no reason to assault them.
    Why was Meka not at the PM-Select’s elbow during her visit to Meka’s electorate as a good host should have been. Meka would have been front and centre, right next to Cindy in the media coverage if she had been where she was supposed to be.
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:12am
    - radvad
      
      Well, she is front and centre now. She got what she wanted but for different reasons.
      
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      October 1, 2018 8:17am
      - sooty
        
        The poor girl had just started her job and she gets the bash!
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:01am
      - starboard
        
        Its maori culture. And they want to force that culture down our throats ? No thank you. Id rather stick pins in my eyes and move in with MM.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:52am
      - stigie
        
        And his mother of course..?
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:16pm
    - KevOB
      
      She appears to have been slighted by the the PM by not even being told of the visit. If true, that would be a very serious insult to the member who has high mana in Maori society.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:57am
      - sooty
        
        Surely you jest! Held in high regard by maori. She’s just a thug in a skirt!
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:17pm
- G152
  
  They are not kind.
  They are a kind
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:20am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Then you have NZ First wanting immigrants to commit to NZ culture while SLG prostitutes our sovereignty to the globalist ideology of the United Nations.
  Couldn’t make it up indeed.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:12am
Inandout

Who pays for the Maori language ad on TV, the one with the length of a documentary?
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October 1, 2018 8:06am
- igm
  
  Inandout: You and all the rest of us who pay too much in taxes.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:07am
- cmm
  
  There’s a saying in poker: If you haven’t worked out who the sucker is, it is you.
  
  Every time that ad plays your wallet gets a bit lighter and some ad house’s coffers get heavier.
  
  Please don’t tell me it’s the Labour-donating ad house.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:14am
- Paulus
  
  You do !
  You do not expect Maori to pay for anything for which you can pay anyway.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:31am
- 4077th
  
  I saw it again this morning and couldn’t stop thinking there is nothing sweet or endearing about this, there is a Chile front and center with hair that his parents should be ashamed of and of course there is the violence aspect with the shouting and chanting..things children should understand and not act out as shown. It’s actually quite disturbing when you look at it closely. It’s cultural alright, a culture of violence and confrontation..
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:42am
  - dave_c_
    
    Indeed – there’s also the hidden indoctrination and use of the ‘we all need to feel the guilt trap’, so that any government decree in this regard is accepted as being required, without fear of a backlash.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:08am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    “a culture of violence and confrontation..”
    
    It might have made sense when iwi was fighting iwi and resources were so poor that they resorted to slavery and cannibalism and inter-tribal racism.
    
    Isn’t it time for Maori to put some of that culture to rest now and celebrate the gentler arts?
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:23pm
holysheet

Marama (Cunt) Davidson was supposed to have an operation to cure her maths issue, but they could never put her under.
The problems started when the anaesthetist asked her to count backwards from one hundred.
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October 1, 2018 8:07am
- Harkman
  
  Ha! The anaesthetist is like, “Oh shit this’ll take all day.”?
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:11am
- MrTips
  
  Anyone done an OIA to the police on whether Davidson made a complaint over the “FB death threats”?
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:23am
cmm

What disturbs me most about our PriNZess is not her so much her use of taxpayer resources, but her shameless lack of any sense of duty. She seems to be using being PM as a massive opportunity to launch herself from obscurity, rather than any opportunity to actually serve the people she takes a massive salary and other resources.

Everything she says about herself is self-promotion and virtue laden: strong leader, honest, generous, caring, concerned about environment, embracing other cultures. But scratch the surface and we see a very different picture, one of exploitation and self-promotion. She even exploits her own child.

* Strong leader: No, she’s indecisive and just kicks the can down the road. She causes uncertainty which leads to loss of business confidence.
* Honest: No, the lies trip off her tongue so fast we can’t count them.
* Generous: Well, sure, with other peoples money and resources – not hers. She is using taxpayer funds for self promotion and setting up her mates.
* Caring: Certainly not for Taranaki. Certainly not for her baby who she uses as a fashion accessory to draw attention to herself. Certainly not for the taxpayer. Certainly not the refugees to whom she gives false hope and exploited for photo ops. Nor the homeless who see potential housing being diverted towards refugee centres.
* Environmental: Generating over 100 tonnes of CO2 (more than the average driver will emit in a lifetime) to fly to Nauru for one day of photo ops, a trip she was not needed on since the Foreign Minister already had it covered, is never going to be congruent with environmentalism. Nor is she and her current boyfriends’ jet-setting lifestyle.
* Multi-cultural: During Maori Language Week she says how much she wishes she could speak Maori. Hundreds of people learn Maori on their own time. She could have too if this was really such a strong wish. An hour a week over the last ten years and she’d be almost fluent – if she bothered.

The reality does not mesh with the delusional self-portrayal.

Her trip to USA and UN was done on the taxpayer tit. These trips are supposed to be of benefit to NZ. However what we see is a massive self promotion exercise instead. She slagged off Trump at every opportunity. This is not diplomacy. This does not help build international relations or trade or any other positive outcomes.

Her trip might have scored her points with the media bubble heads, but most Americans are not like them. Trump is their president and nobody likes to see their president slagged off by foreigners.

But keep digging PriNZess. Keep making it worse. There are still a few people out there who are still victim of the Jadazzle. With a bit more effort you can inoculate a generation against Labour.
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October 1, 2018 8:10am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Straight out of the Obama playbook.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:47am
- Tricati
  
  This is what you get with a MSM created ‘Celebrity’ and not a states-person
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:52am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Bill English learned Maori well enough to converse while managing crucial Finance Ministry during some of toughest economic times in a generation. Cindy did fuck all in opposition as a list MP with almost zero responsibilities for last 9 years (other than wasting taxpayers salary) – including not learning Maori.
  
  All mouth and no trousers.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:56am
  - sooty
    
    Big hat and no cattle.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:05am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Big teeth and an aversion to pie crust.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:32am
- KiWombat
  
  “She even exploits her own child”
  
  You seem to forget that this was a designer baby – it was designed to achieve a purpose, and is doing just that in a manner never before witnessed outside of Royalty.
  
  Unfortunately the day will come when baby has outlived its purpose, it is already costing the taxpayer millions, and will cost many more once is is barefoot and pregnant having been disposed of by its self obsessed parent !
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:02am
  - sooty
    
    Even wanted us to pay for the babyeee photos in New York!
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:06am
    - CHFR1
      
      Leave the kid out of this, by all means go after the mother but going after a 3 month old is a bridge too far. I think the mother is despicable for all she has done but we can’t complain about the treatment of the Key children and then say this.
      For all her lies I do believe Neve was not a prop but a very much wanted child.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:13am
      - RF
        
        Sorry but Ardern has set the bar very low by pimping out the baby after the threats by the duck.
        
        Rent a Bub is so crass.
        
        White trailer trash…….
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:21am
      - lifesgood
        
        Nobody is going after the child, they are going after the unfortunate child’s parents for abusing it. We must stand up for abused children.
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:21am
      - KiWombat
        
        C’mon CHFR !
        
        Of course it was a prop – designed to serve a specific purpose. Remember it was conceived during the process of negotiating a government? Why do YOU believe that happened? Surely there were more pressing issues at that time than taking 5 minutes out to conceive a baby – unless you were thinking six months ahead !
        
        It was designed to be a saviour, and it most certainly has a “use by” date !
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:30am
      - Rich Prick
        
        I think only Michael Jackson has waved a baby about in public more than Cindy. Having said that, now that it has served its purpose I’m glad she has put it away for now.
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:44am
      - igm
        
        CHFR1: Gnashers should have thought of that when she endorsed the arsehole who produced a record about raping John Key’s daughter . . . in fact I would not be surprised if the kid was conceived for political gain as she was desperate for power!
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:46am
  - Fletch
    
    Yep, when she gets old enough, it will be off to boarding school…
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:42am
    - KiWombat
      
      Doubt it fletch. Only if she manages to find some way that we taxpayers end up paying for it !
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:56am
- KevOB
  
  Yes. She may single womanly destroy the Labour Party. It’s going from troubled from incompetence to stupidly muddled, untrustworthy and outski.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:02pm
  - sooty
    
    Labour party. The party for the misguided, (I will not say bewilded as they are with NZF) LGBT and every other alphabet, the perverts of every description. You have to wonder how they hold together? It has changed over the last few years. No more hard working class anymore. You just have to look at the union, full of screaming lefties.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:26pm
secondcumming

*WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT*

‘Dueling Banjos’ in the Manawatu…..or just the ‘Old Boys Network’ in full swing?

The NZH reports…..

Otaki lawyer *Quentin Stobart Haines*, 42, appeared in the Palmerston North District Court where he pleaded guilty to having sex with a 14-year-old girl at his home….and paying $50 to another underage girl to perform oral sex on him in his car.

During sentencing, Judge Lance Rowe allowed Haines numerous discounts on his sentence, “…for his remorse, his efforts to rehabilitate, his contribution to society, and guilty pleas.” He then sentenced him to *6 months Home Detention* – and to pay $500 reparation to both his victims.

Well butter-my-butt and call me a muffin….anyone else would probably have been looking down the barrel of at least 4 years inside. Go figure!!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=12133281
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October 1, 2018 8:19am
- ross411
  
  Sounds more like a wage negotiation by the judge for the two underage girls, than a sentence.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:29am
  - sooty
    
    The judge thought he was a cheap cunt and wanted him to pay the going rate! They will have to be unionized next.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:09am
- srylands
  
  A few years ago I met a guy in Wellington. A friend of a friend. He seemed a bit sleazy. Anyway he went back States and got caught in a police sting soliciting young teens. As the cops closed in he pulled out a gun and killed himself.
  
  I’m guessing he didn’t like the idea of 20 years in an Idaho prison.
  
  https://idahonews.com/news/local/update-coroner-releases-identity-in-enticement-suicide-case-11-16-2015
  
  Anyway point being old guys who fuck 14 year olds should be given a message. And $500 reparation is nuts.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:37am
  - Evadne
    
    Prison inmates got twice that for the ” humiliation” of being strip searched.
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:55am
  - srylands
    
    Thanks for the downtick Stephie
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:56am
- stephieboy
  
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  secondcumming, thank you for a contributing to the Annals of ((( White ))) crime!
  
  The sentencing judge though fell well short. Now if this had been a “Murri” ?
  
  What then?
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:54am
  - Harkman
    
    That post made as much sense as ‘Two-and-a-half-men’ without Charlie Sheen.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:14am
  - holysheet
    
    I thought it was a Murri judge.
    LOL
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:15am
    - stephieboy
      
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      holyturd , get a copy of the” Beautiful Poetry of Donald Trump” and expand your comedy ” gold”
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53LywLMTjcM
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:17am
  - igm
    
    steevwimp: Hope you are getting prepared for the CoL’s legislation as you are the type that will be gone . . . real quick, and taking plenty of rug pilots with you.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:49am
- backster
  
  How come no 30% reduction for being maori.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:14am
- GoVege
  
  A hooker at 14?
  Maybe she was pimped out by her mum?
  There are hundreds of women in this country doing this.
  I saw them describing the Indian woman her pimped her kid as “the most hated woman in New Zealand “.
  She at least had the excuse she had NO income.
  What about all the hundreds of women making a cosy living from baby farming who later on pimp the kids out?
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:32am
Paulus

Early this morning I had a dream !
There was Queen Street bedecked with bunting to celebrate the return from New York of our Princesses (both of them).
The Parade was led by a band playing from Aida – the March of the Hebrew Slaves – yes – thousands of invited people like us.
Next of the Marchers were singing from the “See the Conquering Hero Comes” by Handel from Judas Maccabeus.
Then as excitement grows the full entourage of the Labour led Coalition marching, Peters in a wheelchair, if they knew how, to the final Chorus of Aida. Sorry no Elephants as Health regulations would not allow.
Finally with our real hero on her throne receiving the obeisance of the proletariat. – Comrades.
Of course a licence had been obtained by the Duck in Wellington to be allowed to take photos of the wonder Princesses.
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October 1, 2018 8:25am
waikatogirl

Marama Davidson is the perfect example of the flakey financial outlook this useless COL have. Davidson, co-leader of the Greens appeared on the TV3 AM show this morning demanding benefits are raised by 20% but could not provide any facts or figures to back up the Greens policy. What would be the resulting social implications? Duncan repeatedly asked her how much the policy would cost the taxpayer but the Greens have not worked out the cost. Their approach is to decide on a policy dream and implement it.
One questions what the taxpayers are paying to support the flakey Greens and all their support workers in parliament for if they are not doing the required research and work. Just what are we paying them to do all day?
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October 1, 2018 8:27am
- Sofia
  
  Wasn’t 384,000 families deemed to be $65 a week better off as of just recently?
  
  If sole parent support is a net weekly rate of $334 and they now get an extra $65, why is Davision “on the TV3 AM show this morning demanding benefits are raised by 20%” – they have just had it, or 19.5%.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:54am
- Sofia
  
  supporting reference –
  
  Ms Davidson wants benefit rates bumped up by 20 percent – most importantly Sole Parent Support, the modern equivalent of the Domestic Purposes Benefit that Ms Turei cheated on in the 1990s.
  
  Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice): … On average, 384,000 families are now better off by $65 a week, 64,000 children have been lifted out of poverty, and 26,000 more families now benefit from Working for Families. – Hansard, Sitting date: 4 Jul 2018, General Debate
  
  Marama Davidson, it has been done already: 4 Jul 2018
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:27am
Left Right and Centre

This is the world we live in now . . .

Look at this stupid little UK 14 year old twerp pissing about on youtube with a zillion ‘skincare’ products. You’re 14 – you don’t need farkin skincare shit. Sheesh.
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October 1, 2018 8:28am
- ross411
  
  No-one is making you watch them. Why are you watching 14 year olds put makeup on, on youtube anyway?
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:30am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    I thought I’d take a break from all the gay orgy porn.
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:32am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Dude – at 5’08” in another one of her 96 so far vids, did I ask her to show the internet bras she got for her birthday ?
    
    And here she is at 4’00” casually informing the internet that she’s basically going to be talking about her period, as you do. (If any boys are watching this, you might want to skip past this bit, it’s a bit boring or a bit gross). Advice: if you get bad cramps, just think that someone out there has worse cramps than you, so count yourself lucky.
    
    Thank goodness there’s such selfless advice out there from young experts to help their peers.
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:48am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      From youtube comments . . .
      ‘Omg your like 12 and you wear thongs? when I was that age I didn’t know what they were!!!!’
      
      ‘Faye 141414 I’m 14 and there is no age limit for underwear’.
      
      10’58” – ‘I literally love everything so much’. Private school six days per week, huh ?
      
      Don’t worry, when they make 50+ mindless vids – I’m out. They’d have to be damned good. I’ve skimmed her shit to get the links. Any more than a few mins of that rubbish is self-abuse.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:09am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “self-abuse.” LOL, careful with your use of that term in this context…
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:34pm
- MCos
  
  I watch YouTube once in awhile. Some of the old buggers playing blues and rock and roll probably wished they looked after their skin when they were fourteen.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:57am
  - Woz
    
    Those Rolling Stone geezers, you mean? Well, they seem to have looked after their hair.
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:13pm
    - MCos
      
      I read a story a few years back by a Kiwi reporter who went to do a backstage interview with Carl Perkins after his show.
      He’d appeared on stage with his trademark luxuriant head of hair, but when the reporter went out the back he was nowhere to be seen. Just three old codgers sitting around talking. He asked if they knew where Carl Perkins was. One of them says, that’ll be me, son.
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:30pm
- peterwn
  
  She would only be a twerp if she did not negotiate a decent fee.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:05am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    yep – of course there’s so many of them now trying to make $$$$ out of it, like the young lady. Hey – I’ll just make a few ridiculous cheap vids, nice little earner. I’m on Instagram too – namedrop, namedrop etc They’re all the same these nasty pathetic little wannabe famewhores.
    
    ‘Social influencers’ – hahahaha. Please.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:23am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Ah well, at least trying to build a bit of a business. Surely better than welfarism?
      
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      October 2, 2018 1:35pm
rangitoto

CERN is in a tizz over this presentation by a CERN researcher.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c_NyUhOZ8erdqU2AGZJZtNfFeA91Kefj/view
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October 1, 2018 8:31am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Career suicide. Ideological left will burn him.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:08am
  - rangitoto
    
    You are probably right. I found a twitter thread where the SJW’s are demanding a full inquisition. The guy is an Italian physicist of some note with over 30,000 citations of his published articles.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:49am
  - peterwn
    
    Did not some Italian get into trouble when he dropped two spheres (same diamater but different masses) off a certain tower in Pisa? They hit the ground simultaneously.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:57am
secondcumming

People that can ‘fuck-off’ this week……

Openly gay MP’s
Cyclists who wear pedal-clips
Zuru ‘bunch o’ balloons’
People who watch golf (boring pricks)
Transgender car-salesmen (FFS!)
So called ‘yummy-mummys’ (breeders who can’t afford the 5 kids they already have)
Postman Pat
John Campbell (back on TV1 🙁 )

More to follow…….
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October 1, 2018 8:36am
- srylands
  
  I’d add fat bearded smokers who dress from The Warehouse
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:41am
  - Harkman
    
    Talking about smokers, why the hell do they always stand by Mall doors? (And up wind!)
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:29am
- Scott
  
  second coming – interesting list. I agree with you about the abhorrence of all things gay.
  What have you got against postman Pat?
  Cyclists who wear bike clips – no idea what your problem is there? Bike clips are definitely a good idea when you are cycling wearing trousers.
  People who watch golf are excellent.
  Mothers who have 5 children should be applauded. One of the major problems we have in New Zealand is the decline of the heterosexual married relationships bringing forth many children that are the backbone of our country. Simply put women, especially white women, have stopped having children. New Zealand will be out of business in a few generations unless the trend is reversed.
  
  John Campbell – completely agree! Possibly the most hard left commentator on television? And that is in the face of pretty stiff opposition!
  
  Oh for some informed right-wing commentary on television?
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:52am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Scott, YouTube or Sky is your friend!
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:00am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I think there’s a difference between bike clips and pedal clips. Bike clips keep your trouser cuffs away from the chain, but pedal clips are used by the lycra brigade to clip your feet into the pedals so they can’t slip off. This means that you can’t stop the bike without falling off so at a red light (if you choose to stop) you have to lean on a car.
    Another reason why the lycra brigade can ‘fuck off’.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:03am
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      Captain Mainwaring, yet another pointless post!
      
      BTW in respect of the Prius ( favoured by Uber Taxi and other Taxi drivers amongst many others ) are you a Petrol sniffer?
      
      It might explain things.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:15am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Pointless post???
        
        Pot calling kettle black???
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:23am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        The best taxis are the ones in London.
        Doesn’t make them a good car though.
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:24am
      - lilman
        
        Better than being a pedophile muslim.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:22am
- JIV
  
  Middle aged women who stand in doorways.
  
  They are obviously going either into or out of a store but suddenly stop right in the doorway. Why?? have they forgotten why they are here or just enjoy getting in the way
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:00am
  - sooty
    
    Woman who have to repack their handbags ( which really should have wheels on them ) at the bloody counter. They could at least gather their shit and move away, to let the next person in.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:15am
- JIV
  
  Another couple of things that can fuck off:
  
  Daylight Saving – who is it for??
  People in Wellington with umbrellas – The bins will be full of them by the end of the day
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:22am
  - Harkman
    
    Agreed this daylight savings has really f’d me up.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:25am
  - lifesgood
    
    And trolley leaners at the supermarket…always fat, slow and useless.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:29am
    - waikatogirl
      
      And walking right down the middle of the isle so you can’t get past. Talk about being ‘mooned’. ?
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:46am
      - Harlequin
        
        Even worse. The apparently abandoned trolley, complete with handbag, in the middle of the aisle.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:53am
    - lifesgood
      
      That’s hilarious. Two people like trolley leaners…lefties, I bet.
      
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      October 1, 2018 2:09pm
  - ross411
    
    I like daylight savings, it gives an extra hour of sunlight in the evening, after work. Since I start work early they can have the darker part of the day.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:12am
    - Lucia Maria
      
      You know you could just get up earlier & finish earlier to get that extra hour of daylight.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:29am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      the extra hour of sunlight in the evenings is making my furnishings fade faster so I want it banned!
      
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      October 1, 2018 1:08pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Daylight Saving – To make people feel like there is an extra hour of daylight.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:30am
    - KevOB
      
      I like daylight saving and the timing. It fits my natural wakeup cycle.
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:06pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        My natural wakeup cycle was destroyed years ago by kids & cats. Even now, it’s impossible to go to bed early because the kids are always up much later and they are noisy! And when the kids are quiet the cat fills in the quiet.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:35pm
  - Right of way is Way of Right
    
    Daylight Savings is for Twilight Golfers. I am in favour!
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:18pm
- Harkman
  
  SC I’ve got some:
  
  -the tacky underclass (unmarried mums) that you see in at PaknSave in the middle of winter (Chch gets cold in winter) with their new borns with next to no clothes on them and then a week later they clog up the Afterhours because their babies are sick.
  
  -people driving expensive Audi station wagons. Why? Use the money on a cool sports car.
  
  -Mark Sainsbury
  
  (I celebrate Campbell’s first night on one by watching another channel ?)
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:24am
- lifesgood
  
  I’d agree with 6 of them. Love golf, love Postman Pat. Loathe John Campbell.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:27am
- MrTips
  
  MATT DAMON. What a wanker. Ripping off Kavanaugh on SNL like he’s clever and cutting edge.
  
  Damon – you’re not funny. Your a total wanker. Kavanaugh has no charges against him, anybody can see it was all a setup. And yet somehow Matt, you kept silent all this time about Harvey Weinstein – in fact you kinda defended him. And your buddy Ben Arsefleck, the drunkard abuser – what about him?
  
  Man, America is screwed right now. So much stupid abounds.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:44am
  - Harkman
    
    Remember Damon was covering for Harvey Weinstein.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:56am
    - GoVege
      
      Harvey ain’t angling for a Supreme Court judgeship. 🙂
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:40am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        He is angling for anything less than twenty years now and I don’t mean a woman
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:10pm
      - GoVege
        
        Poor Harvey.
        Obviously “the casting couch” WAS merely a myth.
        And Marilyn Monroe was a barefaced liar…
        
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        October 1, 2018 7:42pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Russell Crowe
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/entertainment/russell-crowe-proposes-nz-and-australia-merge-so-jacinda-ardern-can-lead-both-countries-its-just-practical
  
  Another overpaid moron
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:34pm
cmm

Now here’s a worry…

https://itsfoss.com/linux-code-of-conduct/

Linux development has always been a fierce meritocracy. That’s brutal if you’re useless, but is a very good way of ensuring only the best participate.

There have always been ways for less skilled people to participate, such as Kernelnewbies etc.

Before, Linux’ code of conduct, if you could call it that, was centred around technical stuff: coding style, code quality and the licensing issues.

This has lead to an OS which is used in everything from Android phones, routers, printers, servers, …

Now the SJWs have taken over, what next? Nope, we won’t accept your code patch because you have not made a statement on LGBTQZR and you might be transphobic. Sorry, no more patches accepted from boring white men this cycle – just patches from trannies and Muslims.

I thought my industry was rational and immune to SJWs. Now? Not so sure any more!

The neat thing though is that Linux is completely GPL2 (if you ignore the Linux exceptions) so there is nothing stopping anyone just forking Linux and calling it Meritux. That might end up being the saving grace.
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October 1, 2018 8:42am
- KevOB
  
  Are they now going to extend it to trinary?
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:11pm
- Woz
  
  Fuck me.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:18pm
  - cmm
    
    Will that score me non-binary points?
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:19pm
    - Woz
      
      ‘Fraid not. It was more an expression of frustration than an invitation, anyway. But send me an un-retouched photo and we’ll take it from there.
      
      If you follow the trail you’ll soon find what an awful specimen of humanity that Coraline thing is.
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:33pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I have no idea what you are talking about but I did like your post!
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:11pm
- Nermal
  
  I was told Linux was user friendly, but didn’t have many friends
  
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  October 1, 2018 3:54pm
RW Capitalist

Anyone see that idiot (economist) on the AM show this morning.
Summary
We either NEED to tax more or borrow more to finance neglected infrastructure over past 10 years.
Then him and duncan doubled down suggesting it went back to the early 90’s and both National and Labour were at fault.
Really?
90’s who CREATED the whole wind farm economy…….Nationasl
2000’s who allow the core electricity infrastructure to crumble due to lack of maintenance on the main transmission lines?
LABOUR……Auckland went without power for a couple of days.
Who built and joined up the motorways in Auckland, a program that had been deemed NECESSARY for decades
who started Transmission Gully, a project deemed necessary since WW2……….NATIONAL
etctetc etc
6 of one half a dozen of the other, my ass.
National does, labour talks and breaks promises, while costing us (the tax payer) a fortune.
REALLY???
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October 1, 2018 8:42am
- cmm
  
  “We either NEED to tax more or borrow more”
  
  Somehow they never have to do what every responsible household (and government) in the world does:
  
  Only spend the money you have and put some by for a rainy day.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:45am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    “I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”
    
    ― Winston S. Churchill
    
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    October 1, 2018 8:52am
    - stephieboy
      
      RW Capitalist, what did he do 1950-55 as PM?
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:22am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        https://getrevising.co.uk/grids/churchill_government_1951_1955_1
        Massive advantages
        Minimal disadvantages, mostly about his age.
        Massive improvement in British, incomes, economy and lifestyle.
        Torn apart after Labour got in in the 60’s (95% top tax rate)
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:53am
      - BassilFawlty
        
        He was PM from 1951-1955
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:17am
- Lance
  
  Wasn’t that the clown that said there was no fiscal hole…… while being hired by Labour to run the numbers?
  And yet the MSM took his ‘independent’ word for it and mocked Joyce.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:56am
  - BassilFawlty
    
    I think you will find that was Ganesh Nana from Berl.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:31am
    - Harkman
      
      Yes Ganesh “rent an economist” Nana, everything he says or does has some ulterior leftwing motive, that doesn’t hold when peer reviewed.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:35am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Bernard hickey too and about a dozen others.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:56am
    - Paulus
      
      Ganesh Nana I understand has recently been appointed to one of Cindy’s special conversation committees as thanks for the f….g he gave Stephen Joyce at the election despite that Joyce was wrong – the deficit is twice that of$11 Billion he gave.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:01am
    - Woz
      
      Good ol’ Gloomy Ganesh. Everything was going down the toilet, according to him. Then Labour got in and we’ve hardly heard a peep from him. I think that constitutes a pretty clear indication of his ideological leanings.
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:36pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      This government is not just a one clown circus I’ll have you know!
      
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      October 1, 2018 1:14pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        It’s dysfunction junction ?
        Winston will regret coining that phrase.
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:40pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Labour’s infrastructure spending plan for next 10 years is lower in real terms than what National did.
  
  CoL liars lying.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:11am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    And revolves largely around, a few safety barriers on roads.
    Spending money on massive over budget white elephants, that will NEVER pay back the money spent…..”Auckland rail and light rail”
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:40am
- RW Capitalist
  
  My economic opinion:
  Tax:
  remove ALL levies from goods and services
  (Still charge for “services performed by the govt. port fees, DoC fees, inspection fees etc)
  eg only tax/levies on petrol…GST
  Lower top tax rate to 30% over 2 yrs
  Tax on less than min wage (ie part time)….ZERO
  Tax on Min wage to average wage 12%
  Average wage to top bracket 20%
  Company tax down from 28% to 22% over 2 yrs.
  ACC, charged on ALL leisure pursuits. (including kiddies soccer).
  ACC “no fault system” scrapped. eg rego goes up if your driving performance warrants it. Down to a minimum too, if warranted. (watch the road toll come down now) as an asside, if you lose your license for 6 months + you must resit the test at YOUR expense.. etc etc
  Outgoings.
  Reduce WFF to only those on minimum wage and less get the full credit, sliding scale up to average wage…then nothing.
  No dole for children (under 18) (spend that money on retirement funds.
  Emergency allowances ONLY for EXTREME hardship…..must prove it.
  No fathers name…..no allowance.
  Fathers FORCED to pay for their kids.
  Mothers and children protected from te violent fathers.
  No more translating Govt. documents into every language, only sign language, English and Maori.
  Same in the courts, immigration requirement, refugee requirement etc
  If you need a translator, you pay for it.
  Get the philosophy?
  Do for YOURSELF, unless you actually can’t due to physical or mental disability.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:35am
  - Pascal
    
    “Parents FORCED to pay for their kids.”
    
    Not just “Fathers”, but “Mothers” too. Because, I take care of my daughters as their mother and my ex-wife is an absentee parent who hasn’t made a child support payment this year.
    
    Do I need the money? No, I’m more than capable. But both biological parents are responsible financially, not just one.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:31am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Agreed and logical.
      Please don’t be too literal in the reading of my opinion.
      It is more a philosophy, than an absolute.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:48am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Re the ACC ‘no fault’ – I’d hate victims of accidents to have to try suing people. But all drivers must be insured and you’re right about rego increases for bad drivers.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:48pm
- BassilFawlty
  
  This twit is Shamabeel Equab, the same guy from this article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10819579
  July 2012: “Shamubeel Eaqub says he tells his friends not to waste their money buying houses. But they don’t listen to me.”
  I don’t blame his “friends”, I wouldn’t listen to a single thing he gas to say, nor his mate Bernard Hickey, who in 2008 predicted the housing market would crash by 30%.
  Both have egg on their faces but the media still go to them for opinion, ridiculous.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But when he came into the real world (i.e. started a family)… he bought a house.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/94966044/Shamubeel-Eaqub-I-ve-bought-a-house-at-last
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:58am
    - BassilFawlty
      
      He has a keen financial intellect, waited till the market reached its peak to buy, he will probably sell it at a loss as well just to confirm what a brilliant economist he is.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:23am
  - Im Right
    
    Agree regarding Hickey, he sold up his Auckland home and moved somewhere outwith the city I believe in about 2008. He has been telling us all for 10 years now that the crash is imminent, just look at what he has actually lost in selling his Akl house, I appreciate the house he bought will have gone up in value, but boy oh boy he missed out big time in 10yrs of Akl housing price boom! no wonder he lost all that weight probably his wife stopped talking/cooking for him as she knows how much money they have all lost due to his WRONG assumptions of a crash 🙂
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:10pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Maybe he was trying to create a crash with his doom and gloom?
      
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      October 2, 2018 1:50pm
flipper

It is said that all nations are governed by a clique of folks representing a D- level of competence.
But I never thought that applied to the US of A until I watched the entire (yes, every bit) Kavanaugh / SCOTUS nonsense this past week.
To paraphrase (and really abuse) W S Churchill: “Never in the history [of the US] have so few demonstrated their inability to
repay and lead those who have given them the opportunity to achieve so much.”
Flake, Feinstein, Blumenthal, Coons, Hirono, Durbin, Harris, Whitehouse, Booker et al are a disgrace to the USA as a nation.
I recall very well reading about Bork and Thomas as in Time many years ago. I thought that Time, at that time, was credible, and the process horrible.
But this latest episode….. well, in respect of the bunch of “Senators” mentioned above, I say (as did Cromwell and Avery): “You have sat here too long for any good that you are doing. Depart I say, and let’s have done with you. In the name of God, go!”

Arising, in my view – Kavanaugh 10/10; Ford (for mistaken belief) 5/10. Senate proceedings???minus 10 !!!
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October 1, 2018 8:47am
- Scott
  
  Flipper – it’s not competence, it’s malevolence. The Democrats are unilaterally sabotaging the Supreme Court justice nomination process because they do not want Donald Trump to have any more Supreme Court nominations to make it to the Supreme Court.
  
  And because the nominated judge is eminently qualified they are going after his character by slandering him with accusers who are woefully short of facts.
  
  Fortunately the American people are starting to become wise to the Democrat/leftist playbook. And they see this is a charade. Democrats will not approve any nomination that Donald Trump brings for the Supreme Court.
  
  This is because the Supreme Court is the premier vehicle that Democrats use to overturn western Christian civilisation and bring in their own agenda of secularism, abortion and homosexuality. At its heart it is a religious struggle, a clash of worldviews at a religious level.
  
  Fortunately the good guys will probably win this round anyway. I would imagine that Justice Kavanaugh will be seated on the Supreme Court fairly shortly.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:03am
  - artemisia
    
    Dr Ford cried. Her own apparent witnesses cried off.
    
    Voters see a dodgy and incomplete recovered memory and some will carry on believing it is God’s honest truth. There will always be tribal voters.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:38am
    - Paulus
      
      Makes no difference she has won because she is a Woman.
      It is the Woman’s Movement who are really behind this socialist Democratic Party move.
      Like the Labour led Coalition Government of Liars and Losers here.
      Makes a difference only if a Republican is President in the USA.
      Imagine Hillarious Clinton being President ?
      
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      October 1, 2018 1:17pm
  - flipper
    
    Quite agree Scott
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    Scott,
    
    “This is because the Supreme Court is the premier vehicle that Democrats use to overturn western Christian civilisation and bring in their own agenda of secularism, ..”
    
    1 The US is not a Christian Theocracy nor its Constitution based on the Bible.
    2 Agenda of secularism? Like Brown vs the Board Of Segregation and desegregation.
    3, The Supreme Court ( contrasted by our courts ) is by its very nature as a branch of the three arms of government has an important political role.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:20am
- SGA
  
  Curiosity question. Why have people in NZ become so passionate about who gets on the USA Supreme Court? Presidents, I can understand – they have great influence on international affairs that do affect NZers. But, as far as I can tell, the Supreme Court’s decisions largely focus on US domestic matters (e.g., abortion).
  
  Are people just fighting some cultural war by proxy?
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:04am
  - CHFR1
    
    SGA I think many of us have realised that whether we like it or not where the USA goes we follow, if the Dems are allowed to win this one then I do think long term we can kiss western civilisation goodbye. By long term I do not think in either my or my child’s lifetime but it will happen if the rule of law is allowed to be trod on.
    For everyone’s screaming about Trump it is his opposition who are actually treading on the rule of law all the while pointing at what POTUS MAY (but has shown no signs of doing so yet) happen.
    To those on the left I ask you top listen to the Revolutions podcasts on the American and French revolutions to see what is at stake.
    The Democrat Senators live in enough of a bubble to think they will escape any flame out but I think they wilol come to see that rather being heroes their revolution will end up eating their own a la the French one.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:30am
    - SGA
      
      if the Dems are allowed to win this one then I do think long term we can kiss western civilisation goodbye.
      
      The fate of Western Civilisation hangs in the balance? Really?
      (Oddly, there are, I imagine, some on the left who would say exactly the same thing with the same sincerity.)
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:35am
  - Jules99
    
    I don’t think most real people are that heated here, but the left-wing media are trying to show that the Republicans (and by extension National) is the party of racism and sexism. Those who only read the headlines believe it or at least think ‘there’s no smoke without fire’. However, I do think the people are waking up and seeing the scam for what it is – lying to define the ‘narrative’ that the Dems are the good guys – they are not.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:58am
- Surely Knott
  
  What hypocrites – A government that relies on dissociation, and splitting. As Jacinda, the world’s kindest Prime Minister *cough*, is overseas preaching collectivism to the UN, Windy Winnie is back home planning his shared values policy. Basically the waka jumping bill for immigrants. Which is fine but by splitting the good and the bad into two parties the Greens think themselves virtuous when they support his Trumpian policies, Labour presents themselves as the Kindest most outwardly facing when the do deals with the most anti immigrant party. By splitting – a psychological response for trauma patients – the supporters continue to see themselves as perfect while being able to rationalise the policy there government approves which doesn’t align with their values. National. – Shouldn’t be presented as they don’t have friends. National – It’s a single supplier who will provide accountability for their actions. Good and bad. Like grown ups. Not oh yeah sorry the other guy did it it’s not our fault , we’re the kindest, bestest, most globalist, but our partern made us do it deflections.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:22am
  - Paulus
    
    Why shouldn’t all New Zealanders sign Winston’s Declaration, not just new immigrants.
    It is hypocritical of the Peter’s Party and its leader in particular.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:21pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Winstons latest slogan “The country would be a he’ll hole without NZ values” but then again the way the country is headed under Peter’s Leadership it is not far off becoming a he’ll hole for those investors he and Jacinda have shit on.
      
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      October 1, 2018 2:22pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Assume you mean a hell hole Happy? ?
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:43pm
      - Happychappy
        
        Wg : without blaming others and knowing most know I am not that good at English my phone keeps putting apostrophe in.
        
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        October 1, 2018 3:09pm
    - DigNap15
      
      I think all Maori’s should sign it.
      
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      October 1, 2018 5:08pm
- Harkman
  
  The thing that gets me are crazies protesting outside (especially the woman that got to Jeff Flake). They are so brainwashed that they believe that Kavanaugh, a proper nerd/geek, is a serial rapist and that he gave that all up one day in early twenties. Really? Naturally the lefty MSM get no blame for creating fanatics like this, no its all Trump’s fault.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:42am
  - Jules99
    
    It’s pretty bad on certain Twitter feeds too. I have to keep reminding myself that Twitter is not the real world.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:01am
VicParking

New Zealand Values….
I notice Winston stayed away from Female Multilation, Burkas, Family violence and just raved on about migrant exploitation. We already have laws that cover this type of labour based expoloitation. And I thought that now the Unions can visit sites at will they will be able do the job they are paid to do.
Burn the books that don’t agree with Footrot Flats and the wonky donkey
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October 1, 2018 8:50am
- Scott
  
  New Zealand values is a great idea! It says that people who come to this country need to accept our values and our way of life. In other words not come here and for example demand a special prayer room in the schools, demand food according to their religious prescriptions, build huge religious centres, never set foot in a New Zealander’s house while all the time complaining about New Zealanders attitude towards them.
  
  I do say if people want to come here then they need to accept New Zealand values. Otherwise they should go home.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:56am
  - SGA
    
    In other words not come here and for example demand a special prayer room in the schools,
    
    Agreed, let’s keep all religion out of state schools.
    
    demand food according to their religious prescriptions,
    
    I hope that includes the cult of vegetarianism and, its fanatical sect, the vegans?
    
    build huge religious centres
    
    perhaps that could be made retrospective and we could tear a few down as well. You’d help with the Mormon temple in the Waikato, wouldn’t you Scott.
    
    Thank goodness freedom of religious expression isn’t (from what I can tell from your comment) a NZ value. 🙂
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:18am
    - Scott
      
      SGA – well the thing is some beliefs will dominate our society. At the moment that belief is the religion of secular humanism. I think secular humanism is terrible. So I want Christianity to be the religion and the beliefs of this nation.
      
      However, and this is where Christianity is very different from secular humanism, its cousin Marxism and its current bed fellow Islam, you cannot make someone become a Christian. You cannot force people to accept Christianity. Christianity at its core is a voluntary repentance of our past life and a radical renewal to a new life as a follower of Jesus.
      
      So this means that I will push for Christian principles at every turn. But we cannot impose them by force. Because we realise you cannot make somebody love God.
      
      But thank you for the warning about acts of violence. I take your warning to heart and will report to the local police station immediately and surrender my cachet of bombs and assault rifles.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:35am
    - GoVege
      
      The “cult” of vegetarianism, SGA?
      Most vegetarians are atheists!
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        You aren’t counting the Seventh Day Adventists, who are vegetarians.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:24pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes, and what about the ones already here.
      The test needs to be made retroactive.
      
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      October 1, 2018 5:09pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Like gaining your NZ drivers license without purchasing it from a corrupt official.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:56am
  - Scott
    
    SGA – thanks for your reply. Happy to answer your points.
    –Not keep all religions out of state schools. Christianity should be in. Islam especially should be out.
    – vegans are certainly annoying but they are part of the New Zealand way of life I guess?
    – No problems with the Mormons. More the huge Islamic mosques. I think Christianity is the religion of this country and is at its foundation. I really don’t like foreigners coming in and building their pagan places of worship. But probably Islam is the worst because it’s not just wrong religion, it’s also a small matter of terrorism and wanting to take over our country.
    
    Yes as a general rule I do support freedom of religion and worship. It is just when foreigners want to come in, build huge mosques and take over our country that I get upset. That we can’t tolerate.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:00am
    - SGA
      
      Yes as a general rule I do support freedom of religion and worship.
      
      I’m not sure that you do, Scott, to be honest. You want the state to selectively promote Christianity, and Christianity only, in its schools. That to me isn’t someone who supports freedom of religion and worship.
      
      You see NZ as a Christian country – fine. But nowadays less than half the population calls itself Christian, and that group includes all the vaguely Christian groups (such as the Mormons), and those that tick that box on the census even though they don’t actively take part in any Christian practices and begrudgingly go to church only for wedding and funerals.
      
      I’m non-religious, but happy to acknowledge that Christianity forms part of the heritage of Western culture. I try to show some consideration and tolerance toward your YEC beliefs – provided you respect that you can’t force those beliefs on the rest of society. You can oppose abortion, say, but not commit acts of violence to further those aims. I feel the same about other religions.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:20am
      - sooty
        
        Went past the temple view church in Hamilton on the weekend. First time ever. Man there must be a lot of happy campers there. I take it there is whole suburbs of them over the fence and nearby.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:38pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        As an atheist, 20 years ago I would also have said ” I feel the same about other religions.”
        
        The behaviour of islamists and my increased knowledge of the aims of islamists have changed my mind about feeling that way about islam.
        
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        October 2, 2018 2:02pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Islam is not just a religion: islamism is a political movement aiming at theocracy.
      
      Separating the two is extremely difficult.
      
      Religious freedom does not exist under islamic theocracy.
      
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      October 2, 2018 2:00pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    The old adage of when in Rome do as the Roman’s do, but we do want to be forward not backward looking. Not many European settlers would have wanted to live like Maori did, well I imagine at any rate.
    
    I certainly do not wish to live in the middle east despite the fact that I have ancient ancestry there.
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:52pm
  - KevOB
    
    What are NZ values?
    Who defines them?
    Who do they apply to?
    What is there expiry date?
    Who is to enforce them?
    How are they to be monitored/policed?
    Can a member bind a family?
    What is the penalty for infringement?
    
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    October 1, 2018 2:48pm
- stephieboy
  
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  Vicparking, NZ values are already enshrined in our laws such as the Crimes Act, Human Rights Act , Labour Laws etc, etc. We don’t need Dress Code Crimes or even a Burn the Books brigade .
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:08am
  - sooty
    
    Stephie, I am sure you are not meant to have sex with animals either!
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:19am
    - GoVege
      
      Better than killing and eating ’em Sooty!
      🙂
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:43am
      - sooty
        
        I would know about that. I’m not a country boy!
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:39pm
      - GoVege
        
        Well if you were unlucky enough to be a sheep or cow, what would you prefer….death or ….dishonour?? 🙂
        
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        October 1, 2018 7:49pm
  - srylands
    
    You miss the point. It is the implications of the dress code for women.
    
    Example. A friend of mine volunteers with refugees. She told me that she is teaching a 10 year old Syrian girl to swim. She is in a rush because as soon as the girl reaches puberty it is nihab time and no more trips to the swimming pool.
    
    So a simple question for prospective immigrants. “Are you going to cover up your teen daughters and prevent them being seen by men? ” if yes then don’t come
    
    It is not about a dress code. It is about freedom.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:32am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      If an immigrant does something that is contrary to this code of values but not illegal, what exactly happens next and who enforces it? Bear in mind judges will not even apply a very clear law such as the three strikes legislation if they don’t agree with what it says.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:00am
      - srylands
        
        Nothing happens. But they could be prevented from becoming citizens.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:06am
      - ross411
        
        I hear you Nigel, but the point is that cultural integration both actual and intended, should be a factor in immigration. Not celebration of lack of intent or actual, which happens now.
        
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        October 1, 2018 10:17am
    - GoVege
      
      The Danes have had the guts to ban the burqa.
      When are we gonna do it?
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:04pm
      - sooty
        
        Should be asked to eat a bacon butty at the airport.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:41pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Sorry to say, Mohammad has muslims well trained and indoctrinated.
        
        Muruna , by appearing contrary, like drinking, to hide a muslims real intentions.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:51pm
  - Harkman
    
    “Vicparking, NZ values are already enshrined in our laws such as the Crimes Act, Human Rights Act , Labour Laws etc, etc. We don’t need Dress Code Crimes or even a Burn the Books brigade.”
    
    Or groups of people shutting down public debate and the speeches of other law abiding groups just because they disagree with their ideology.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:45am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    The only one’s with a “Burn the Books brigade ”
    mentality are the lefties.
    Those 2 Canadians
    Don Brash
    remember Paul Henry?
    
    ETCETCETC
    No person on the right of politics, has called for the banning of anything?
    Except for harmful substances perhaps?
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:08am
    - gump
      
      The far right of politics is just as authoritarian as the far left. Examples of things it wants to ban are abortion and gay marriage.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:47am
  - VicParking
    
    Dickhead if you read my comment thats what I was saying
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:32am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I imagine that many “New Zealand values” would be the same as the ones of Europe, North America and the Far East.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:31am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Opening a can of worms, we should not expect to find anything other than……..WORMS.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:09am
- Philview
  
  I heard on RNZ this morning that immigrants will have to sign a declaration that they are not opposed to booze. I like a drink as next as the next person but some of Peters’s ideas are bizarre.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:37am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    They’re not being asked to drink, just to affirm that they don’t oppose alcohol. Islamic theocracies don’t allow alcohol.
    
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    October 2, 2018 2:07pm
Happychappy

What a bitter twisted moron Winston Peters is, all he is capable at now days is calling other people names and blaming the previous Government for issues he and the Coalition that promised the people that voted for them they would fix. It is funny that he has the headlines from the media about Judith Collins nephew being his guest speaker at the NZ Conference where maybe some could be saying rather appropriately that two losers headlined the speakers at NZ First conference over the weekend.
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October 1, 2018 8:55am
- peterwn
  
  I suspect Winston is either starting to lose it or he assumes people have short memories. Or he is supremely confident that Simon Bridges will be ‘rolled’ before the next election.
  His attack on Simon would have boosted Simon’s confidence.
  Possibly also, Winston may think he has Labour/Greens where he wants them after the next election and does no need to talk with Simon to try and strengthen his bargaining position against Labour (the Greens will still be too feckless to even speak with Simon or demand that they be allowed to lick Winston’s boots).
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:16am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    The wrinkled prune’s vicious attack on the most popular political party in NZ just served to confirm what a deluded old fool he is.
    As for sticking the knife into Bridges, the guy who comprehensively derailed his confident return to the arms of the devoted voters of Tauranga, what a bitter and twisted attitude to take.
    The NZ public will see this for what it is, and National was right to not dignify it with a response.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:32am
    - Piniwi
      
      But Captain Mainwaring all we see from their two day conference is the old drunks two biggest concerns. Booze will be enshrined as a part of immigrants acceptance of NZ lifestyle. Then secondly he is very concerned that Simon Bridges is quietly getting ready to dislodge him from another seat. He is loosing his edge completely now by failing to promote the “strength” his party has gained in 25 years but instead highlighted it’s weakness. Even a fair percentage of his team think the idea of their proposed bill is nothing more than a diversion from the serious problems they and the COL have. Apart from the struggle the other parties have with any form of test or qualification.
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:35pm
  - Paulus
    
    Winston now wants the MMP 5% reduced to 3% to ensure that even if he loses half his vote he still gets back in.
    I hear that the Greens want it down to 2% now that the Waka bill has been passed by which all the Labour led Coalition will have to follow the Party line.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:25pm
    - KevOB
      
      I want it increased to 10% with minimum asset tests, IQ test, qualifying interview panel for selection & more…
      
      Let us never have a repeat of the present fiasco and disablement of govt.
      
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      October 1, 2018 2:54pm
Morrissey

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Another day, another murder, and murder, and murder

While #Netanyahu is talking about #Peace in the #UNGA73, a new massacre in #Gaza committed by his army … at least 8 killed, including 3 children, more than 500 wounded, some very serious. #GazaBleeds #GazaMassacre #GazaSiegeCrime #GazaToUN #GreatReturnMarch pic.twitter.com/SLAePcGY5i

— Dr. Basem Naim (@basemn63) September 29, 2018

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/09/30/another-day-another-murder-and-murder-and-murder/
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October 1, 2018 8:58am
- Inandout
  
  That’s nice. Now where is Jacinda?
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:59am
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    She’s with our friend Clarke. And don’t you just WISH you were him?
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:47am
    - Harkman
      
      No she ain’t 28 anymore.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:24am
      - sooty
        
        She ain’t youth adjacent since 1995.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:43pm
- Morrissey
  
  Two supporters of mass murder have registered with us. May you rot in Hell, you scum.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:04am
  - Inandout
    
    Mossey, you should really see a head doctor, and I hope you aren’t anywhere near a firearm.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:15am
    - Morrissey
      
      Since you’re so worried about firearms, what do you think of people hiding behind barricades and shooting children and medical personnel? By the thousand.
      
      Dr. Filth would approve. Do you?
      
      https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-19082015/#comment-1060544
      
      https://www.drphil.com/shows/2377/
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:39am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Is one of them the Golly G Green MP?
    If not she should be.
    Go review her photo album with such people.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:34am
- Scott
  
  I just love the reporting on all things Israel. There was a headline recently – “Syrian forces down Russian military plane. Both sides blame Israel.”
  
  The level of bias against Israel by the mainstream media is almost comical.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:08am
  - Morrissey
    
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    You think that doctors, nurses, and human rights organizations reporting on Israel slaughtering hundreds and maiming tens of thousands of peaceful protestors is “biased reporting” and “comical”, do you?
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:11am
    - igm
      
      They will all be left-wing sycophants . . . take a look at the scum that have gone from here to Gaza over the years . . . like you, not worth a blurt!
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:22am
    - Scott
      
      Morrissey my dear chap – the level of left-wing agitation about what is happening on the other side of the world is quite frankly comical. I find that leftists are always agitated.
      
      I do not accept your claims about the numbers of people being killed. I do not accept your claims about “peaceful” protesters.
      
      I think you have a level of bias and left-wing animus against Israel that is stupendous.
      
      By the way there is no competition to be the most hard left commentator on this site. But if there was I do think you would win. There is something of Trotsky about your writings I would suggest?
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:40am
- rangitoto
  
  Translation.
  
  IDF thwarts another terrorist plot by Hamas.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:52am
  - Morrissey
    
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    Idiot.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:56am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Yes, you are.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:13am
- igm
  
  Morris Dancer: You are one vile and hateful mongrel. Israel is a nation to be admired, not maligned by scum such as you, and your Islamist murdering associates.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:19am
  - Morrissey
    
    Israel is a nation to be admired…
    
    I don’t doubt that people like Dr. Filth admire the way those brave IDF sharpshooters kill and maim children and nurses and ambulance workers and journalists….
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17112015/#comment-1096957
    
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    October 1, 2018 2:51pm
- Kiwi Dave
  
  Do you have independent confirmation of the massacre?
  
  Given the numerous previous instances of fakery passed off as news by Palestinians, sometimes with the forced or voluntary connivance of news organisations and U.N. personnel under the thumb of Hamas, I have zero confidence in the accuracy of any news emerging fromGaza.
  
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  October 1, 2018 4:09pm
Inandout

Hadn’t seen this before, but it hasn’t been ‘disappeared’. Anonymous of course.

https://www.critic.co.nz/features/article/2283/new-zealands-most-inspirational-celebrities
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October 1, 2018 8:58am
- secondcumming
  
  BOL!!
  
  ‘Culturally sensitive Maori tattoo’s and excellent cunnilingus skills’…….what more could a Morman chick from Te Aroha wish for? 😎
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:17am
  - Inandout
    
    I’ll have extra chips and a hot dog with that.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:20am
Maggy Wassilieff

Tālofa.

E ā koutou?
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October 1, 2018 9:21am
The only red for me is that of Manchester United

I listened to Simon Bridges on RNZ this morning. I thought he did ok, but he falls into the trapps set by Susie and Guyon and he goes off script. This morning he said that Arden was like Trump. That was the cue for Susie to take him off script and further question him about how dare he compare her to that man. It’s ok to say no Simon. Bridges needs to be more aware of the traps and to be firmer with the interviewers.
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October 1, 2018 9:24am
Morrissey

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GROPERS
No. 45: Brooke Howard-Smith

TV star Brooke Howard-Smith has apologised for manhandling a young woman out of his controversial Pony Club last Sunday morning in an ugly bust-up which saw both give statements to police. The incident, which witnesses said left the patron in tears on the ground outside Howard-Smith’s Auckland bar, will be investigated by the Target star’s bosses.

Sunday News has obtained sworn affidavits from witnesses who were outside the bar about 3am last Sunday. They say Howard-Smith:

* Yelled at the female patron, believed to be aged in her early 20s: “You picked the wrong night, the wrong club and the wrong guy to do this to.”
* Held her arm in a “forceful way” as he led her out of the bar.
* Was “visibly angry … furious”.

….”We can’t blow this out of context, man,” Howard-Smith said. “It is obvious what this is it’s me breaking up a fight between two girls on a dance floor and asking them to leave. But she didn’t leave … then like anyone who is in a fight … she was escorted out of the club.” ….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/530858/Target-star-says-sorry-for-pushing-woman-out-of-bar

…In 2008, while engaged to [Amber] Peebles, the man of many talents began an affair with an Auckland teenager with braces who he seduced within the sweaty confines of the Pony Club. This astute move showed that despite his Adonis-like appearance, unstoppable career trajectory, and flawless taste in wooden bead necklaces, Howard-Smith is fallible just like any other man. Prior to the affair Howard-Smith regularly hit on girls in skintight Supré dresses at Pony, but these minor indiscretions were deemed insufficient to convince the public that he was just flawed enough to be relatable. The schoolgirl, echoing the sentiments of a nation, commented that she was powerless to resist Howard-Smith’s “charisma”.

https://www.critic.co.nz/features/article/2283/new-zealands-most-inspirational-celebrities

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2155980/England-rugby-players-deny-raping-teenager.html

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc. (Hat tip for this one to Kiwiblog’s legendary Inandout.)

1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon; 30 Rob Porter; 31 The old buffers at Russell McVeagh; 32 Otago law students; 33 Tom Brokaw; 34 David Scott; 35 Justin Trudeau; 36 Morgan Freeman; 37 Hugh Hefner’s guests; 38 Brock Turner; 39 Les Moonves; 40 Asia Argento; 41 [name withheld]; 42 NY subway groper; 43 His Dishonor Brett Kavanaugh; 44 Corey Lewandowski
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October 1, 2018 9:29am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Four (and climbing) normal people who think Morris Oxford is an obsessive idiot have registered with us.
  Well done folks.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:37am
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    Six people who think it’s okay to grope young girls and manhandle women. No surprises, Cap’n.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:41am
    - Inandout
      
      Mossey, do you get off on groping stories?
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:49am
      - Morrissey
        
        You provide ’em, my friend. I just write ’em up.
        
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        October 1, 2018 9:55am
      - igm
        
        Bet he goes to Labour indoctrination camps . . . wood fit in well.
        
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        October 1, 2018 3:37pm
    - GoVege
      
      How do you feel about the hundreds of “honour killings” of young women committed by Palestinians every year Morrissey?
      As bad as groping?
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:19pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You’ve just made that up. There are hundreds of killings of Palestinians by the IDF and by settler-terrorists in the Occupied Territories, but you don’t care about those of course. Your allegation is fantasy.
        
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        October 1, 2018 3:37pm
      - GoVege
        
        Are you for real, Morrissey?
        A man as educated as yourself must know that Islamic societies all practice honour killing of female family members, even after they move to the West.
        The Palestinians are among the worst offenders.
        And the only time I’ve noticed Israel killing Palestinians is when the Palestinians attack them first.
        
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        October 1, 2018 4:08pm
      - Morrissey
        
        And the only time I’ve noticed Israel killing Palestinians is when the Palestinians attack them first.
        
        ????!!?!?
        
        Oh yes, I see what you mean. Those are really, really aggressive ambulance workers, doctors, nurses and reporters. Just by existing, they are attacking Israel. Of course.
        
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        October 1, 2018 5:39pm
      - GoVege
        
        Morrissey: why do you think these people take 9 month old babies into the line of fire?
        To make “martyrs” of innocent babies and children and get public opinion against Israel maybe?
        Notice they tend to choose female kids…being valueless in their chauvinist culture.
        Tell me this honestly:
        With all the Arab countries surrounding Israel, why can’t one of them take the Palestinian refugees, instead of trying to destroy the only democratic country in the Middle East?
        
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        October 1, 2018 8:00pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Well I would still prefer to be manhandled than womanhandled, if I allowed myself to be handled at all.
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:25pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        You don’t get a choice when you get womanhandled going through airport security.
        Females get directed to a female staffer.
        
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        October 1, 2018 5:44pm
      - GoVege
        
        I got “womanhandled” twice in France last year…by women wearing hijabs !
        I bet they never frisked a fellow Muslim…
        Lucky I was in holiday mode….
        
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        October 1, 2018 7:54pm
- Harkman
  
  I hope somebody on this list sues you big time.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:46am
  - Morrissey
    
    Really? Would you, perchance, happen to be No. 4, No. 11, No. 27, No. 31, No. 32, No. 34, or No. 41?
    
    That would explain the bitterness.
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:54am
    - ross411
      
      So what you’re saying is that if someone questions unproven allegations you pass as fact, they are both guilty and bitter themselves. Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:32am
    - Harkman
      
      No. 11 is dead you idiot, anyhow Fahey should be in the top 3/4 if your list made any sense.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:27am
      - Morrissey
        
        They aren’t ranked according to merit, or demerit. Of course, most people would regard the vilest of the lot to be No. 18.
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:39pm
Komata

So Judge Andrew Becroft (Children’s Commissioner BTW), wants:

‘…A shift away from the current large-scale institutional residences towards community group homes.

The homes would be run in partnership with iwi and Māori organisations, and he says the kaupapa Māori-driven approach would help redirect lives’.

I told my wife (Maori) about his comment that ‘…The kaupapa Māori-driven approach would help redirect lives’.

Her reply: ‘He should spend a month or so living with Maori families like those which generate these kids, then see what he thinks; it’s exactly that sort (Maori-driven) approach which causes the problem. He hasn’t a clue’.

Once again a SJW thinks he knows it all, yet in fact knows nothing.
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October 1, 2018 9:30am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Is Judge Andrew Becroft an example of an immigrant who has “gone native” to prove that they can “fit in” better than everyone else?
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:03am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Becrofts hailed from Port Albert area I believe, according to my calendars from that region anyway, some of mine having also landed there albeit after the Albertlanders.
    
    Not the most usual of names.
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:29pm
stinkypete

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/fgm-uk-female-genital-mutilation-countries-girls-children-cutters-flight-survivor-police-a8560306.html

islamic communities paying to fly in ‘ cutters” to carry out female genital mutillation in the UK
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October 1, 2018 9:30am
- GoVege
  
  Obviously doing their damnedest to assimilate!
  A book I read recently says it is estimated that one girl an HOUR is generally mutilated IN THE UK!!
  Obviously the authorities are not doing much to stop these crimes.
  Years ago in France they found the only way to stop it was to jail the parents.
  A generation later in Britain you’re more likely to be jailed for chucking a ham sandwich in the direction of a mosque than for sexually mutilating your daughter.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:03pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Sad but true, so that can be one of Winton’s tests, do you believe in FGM and are going to inflict it on your female children? Yes? Do not pass go and do not collect 200$.
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:31pm
Niz

Mariana Davidson wants to bump benefits by 20%, but has no idea what it’ll cost.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/09/greens-want-welfare-overhaul-but-don-t-know-how-much-it-will-cost.html
Does this government cost out _any_ of its policies?
And btw Marama, it’ll be orders of magnitude more than your $100M America’s Cup example.
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October 1, 2018 9:32am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Stop buying missiles and war planes for Ron Mark. That would fund most of the necessary social welfare budget.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:45am
  - rangitoto
    
    Instead of buying those patrol aircraft Cindy could write a stern letter telling foreigners that she will wag her finger at them if they plunder NZ’s fishing zone.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:20pm
- Sofia
  
  Above, Andrew Little is quoted: “On average, 384,000 families are now better off by $65 a week” – Hansard, Sitting date: 4 Jul 2018
  – https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20180704_20180704_16
  
  384,000 families x $65 x 52 weeks = $1,297,920,000
  Elsewhere it is stated the Package is budgeted for five years, which totals $6,489,600,000 or $6.4896 billion
  And the amount Budgeted has often been quoted as $5.53 billion
  
  So the amount calculated above is $0.9596 billion (close to $ 1 billion) over budget.
  
  The basic benefit Davidson talks of (solo parent) has already been increased, by about 19.5%
  She appears ignorant that has happened.
  She “has no idea what it’ll cost’ – it is already $0.96 billion over budget.
  If the America’s Cup is $100 million, the proposed increase in welfare total, $6.4896 billion, is around 650 times the America’s Cup expense.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:05am
  - gump
    
    Speaking of ignorance, you don’t seem to realise that the quoted figures of “384,000 families are now better off by $65 a week” refers to increases in the Working for Families tax credits. It has nothing to do with benefit programs.
    
    Can a tax credit be said to cost us anything? That’s a very interesting question given that it’s simply a refund of the taxes that those families have already paid.
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:33pm
    - rangitoto
      
      The average family is now worse off than they were a year ago in terms of income vs expenditure and there is a lot more cost coming down the pipeline.
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:10pm
      - Niz
        
        You know what this means don’t you? We’re becoming more equal. Won’t be long and we’ll _all_ be on the skids.
        Labour delivering on its promises.
        
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        October 1, 2018 3:30pm
      - gump
        
        @Rangitoto
        
        >The average family is now worse off than they were a year ago in terms of income vs expenditure.
        
        If we take the above figures as true then the average family is receiving an extra tax credit of $65 a week or $3,380 per year.
        
        Have their expenses risen by $3,380 per year? That seems impossible to believe given that our CPI for the year ending June 2018 was only 1.5%
        
        To put these numbers in perspective, $3,380 represents the CPI increase for over $225,000 worth of consumer spending. It’s pretty clear that the average family is actually doing better under a Labour government.
        
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        October 1, 2018 3:47pm
- GoVege
  
  What a moron.
  As if we don’t have enough baby farmers living off the workers!
  Raising pay for actual jobs would be way more sensible.
  She’s just creating even more incentives for bludgers to bludge.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:25pm
secondcumming

Whenever I finish eating something I have to show my hands to the fucking dog, like I’m a Blackjack dealer.
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October 1, 2018 9:32am
- Jules99
  
  LOL, I do that too.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:05am
  - dave_c_
    
    This behaviour is more common than you may think. We do this all the time to our dogs.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:41am
    - secondcumming
      
      Mine…..
      
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn_Y_F5XkAMcK3L.jpg
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:01am
- RW Capitalist
  
  With the govt.
  Taxes
  levies
  inflation
  etc
  You’ll soon have to do that to your kids.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:42am
Left Right and Centre

Here is someone who actually needs ‘skincare help’ (applied with a trowel)
NZ’s number one ‘social media influencer’ . . .

Yo, check out the live facebook feed, man is she the coolest player or what ?
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October 1, 2018 9:32am
- secondcumming
  
  Maaaate – say what you like….but that girl is GAWJUS!!
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:42am
- lifesgood
  
  LR&C…you could have warned us. I clicked on it and it’s ruined my day.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:56am
cas

Now that Michael Cullen has been appointed to head the EQC, can anyone tell me how many roles he is playing in the Labour – led Govt and how much money these are giving him? I did hear him say recently before the EQC announcement that he was earning much more than he ever had. But I suppose he’s got clear accountants and any assets are all tidied away
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October 1, 2018 10:06am
- Inandout
  
  Cullen is fast approaching the rich pricks status that he used to abhor. What a strange individual.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:10am
  - lifesgood
    
    He only pretended to abhor it because he could see a future with Labour. Just another faux lefty hypocrite. When he accepted a knighthood that was beyond the pale.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:53am
    - sooty
      
      Call me SIR Cullen never had the balls to bring in a GCT while he was in government. So why is he all for it know when he has no responsibility? Did Helen give them back?
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:02am
Hugh Pavletich

… New Zealand’s political housing poverty creation programme … continued …

… If you don’t own your home mortgage free when going in to retirement … tough …

NEW ZEALAND: Retirees turn to flatting to help make ends meet … OPINION … Stuff NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107496373/retirees-turn-to-flatting-to-help-makes-ends-meet?cid=app-iPad

… extract …

… Experts from the Ageing Well National Science Challenge are warning of a looming crisis in elderly housing. They predict that under current policy, in 20 years’ time more than half of those over 65 will be renting.

Dr Kay Saville-Smith, a Principal Investigator with the Challenge, says two decades’ ago, more than 80 percent of people aged 65-89 owned a home. By 2013, that had dropped to 60 per cent.

“In the past we knew what would happen to older people. They would be homeowners and they would be mortgage free and their living standard was really quite high given their low incomes,” she says. “But the future is going to be very, very different.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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… latest IPSOS New Zealand poll … lifting 50% Kiwis major concern excessive housing costs … 24% of Aussies … read on …

New Zealand Issues Monitor – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow
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… When do the politicians intend to ALLOW (yes … that’s all …) affordable new housing to be built ? …

How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783

… It has been a very very very long wait …
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October 1, 2018 10:08am
- gump
  
  Careful Hugh, you’re upsetting the fiction that retirees can only benefit from rising house prices.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:36pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Gump … housing inflation is indeed just poverty creation.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:11pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

It will be interesting to see who will destroy Western democracy first, Islam, the Russians, the Chinese, or Western women and the left-wing, with their sickness of political correctness.
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October 1, 2018 10:09am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  What doesn’t kill the West will only make it stronger…
  
  (Let’s see if the patient survives.)
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:52am
  - Jules99
    
    Well to quote Ronald Regan:
    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.”
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:52pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.”
      
      My favorite: “We are only ever 3 square meals away from revolution.”
      
      Once the useful people in society are affected (the people who produce things of value or actually keep the logistics, utilities, and infrastructure systems up and running) then things go south very, very quickly.
      
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      October 1, 2018 1:30pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Venezuela is the perfect example of this.
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:52pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Ha! Someone just quoted Ronald Reagan vaporing on about “freedom” as if he believed in it!
      
      That old arch-terrorist who supported brutal, anti-democratic regimes in Central America, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Israel, Iraq, Egypt, South Korea, apartheid South Africa—may he burn in hell alongside his old mates Saddam, bin Laden, Suharto, Thatcher, and Sharon!
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:09pm
      - GoVege
        
        Well I hated the way Reagan supported the incredibly brutal dictatorships in Central America.
        According to reports from the region, it’s still just as savage there as it was 30 odd years ago.
        
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        October 1, 2018 4:12pm
Dave Mann

STOP PRESS: The raging bull testosterone fueled leader of the ‘opposition’ says that Winston Peters’ comments about the National Party are very hurtful and furthermore, that they will backfire.

More details by following the hyperlink (as Hugh Pavlova would say) here:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/09/winston-peters-moribund-comment-very-hurtful-simon-bridges.html

Wow. That’s certainly telling him, eh!
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October 1, 2018 10:14am
- RW Capitalist
  
  and your problem is?
  If you rant and rave, the MSM will just paint you as all over the place like a mad womans shit.
  They are winding up winston, the way that Ghandi wound up the British.
  A little dig here, a poke there…pointing out his own, his party’s and the CoL (that he supports) shortcomings.
  and
  Winnie is, true to form come out swinging at shadows, looking like a loony.
  Never get in the way of an enemy, when he is making a mistake.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:23am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I absolutely disagree. Soimun is just being a soppy dribble. Anyone with an ounce of balls or a sense of humour could come up with something 500% more dynamic than “He’s being very hurtful”.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:35am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Suggest you don’t play chess then!!!!
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:40am
    - VicParking
      
      He did
      He said when Peters said it the Faithfull rabble (all 250 of them) laughed. “I don’t know if they were laughing with or at him”
      Plus “That sort of stupid comment does not warrant a response”
      RW is right the Caro-Kann opening.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:47am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Danish gambit for me, but usually am too aggressive and lose in about 25 moves. (Impatient)
        Claim to fame:
        Played Murray Chandler once
        He went to college and played soccer with us.
        He spiked me 2 rooks and still beat me inside 15 moves.
        
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        October 1, 2018 11:00am
      - Paulus
        
        More people went to the Flower Show at the Racecourse in Tauranga than went to hear Peters drivel in the same place.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:31pm
      - VicParking
        
        Easily beaten off by using the Capablanca variation which makes white need to exchange queens so he can castle. The scarfices in the begining mean an open game on whites part which is negated some what without a queen. The weekness in this opening has been brought to light by Capablanca (offcourse) Fisher, Spassky and computer engines.
        Also beaten by Murray
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:43pm
- brett68
  
  Bridges is an embarrassment.
  
  No wonder he’s called Soyman.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:27am
  - VicParking
    
    Just by you and the rest of Faiser House
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:48am
  - lifesgood
    
    By whom?
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:50am
- Philview
  
  We have Jacinda Ardern saying the Coalition Government is a Government of kindness and represents a new type of politics and this is lapped up by the media. Then we have the Winston Peters vitriol and this is lapped up by the media. We live in truly odd times. Imagine the media meltdown if Bridges came out and said similar about Ardern or Peters.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:30am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    In the kingdom of the blind
    The one eyed man is king.
    The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing (is Ardern the left hand or is winnie)
    either way in a caucus of one armed, intellectual midgets, who could tell?
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:38am
    - VicParking
      
      The Left hand does but as the right hand is giving them so much pleasure it just holds onto the tissues waiting for the next cumming.
      
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      October 1, 2018 10:51am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Imagine the media meltdown? You’re joking aren’t you? Seriously?
    
    If that soppy dribble Soimun had half the balls of Peters or half the energy of Adern, then we’d have a chance of getting rid of this COL at the next election….. but on present performance it’s not looking good. Far from it.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:45am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Yeah he does need to push back on Winston. People shy away from supporting anyone they see as a Beta, Bridges needs to project some Alpha – even if it has potential for fallout. Call the incoherent grumpy twat out on his bullshit.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:58am
- sam green
  
  Pa ra pum pum pum -rooter Bridges trying to keep relevant.
  
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  October 1, 2018 7:22pm
Poppa

It seems rather odd that we have had no political polls out for months. I know we are in between elections but that still seems rather strange

Perhaps they are polling but don’t like the results?
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October 1, 2018 10:29am
- brett68
  
  That’s the feeling I get.
  
  MSM don’t want to run a poll as it’s could be negative for Ardern and damage her brand.
  
  Desperately waiting for a run of good news before they run another poll.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:32am
  - dave_c_
    
    They’ll be waiting a while – perhaps they SHOULD hold their breath – there may be fewer MSM lies and deception being reported.
    
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    October 1, 2018 10:38am
- lifesgood
  
  I am sure they are. Why else would Peters go all out to attack Simon Bridges? Simon’s not the PM.Sounds like Winston knows the poll results and is running scared. His best method of defence is to attack.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:48am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Media are running out of money.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:59am
RF

Why is Twyford building Kiwi Build homes in Wanaka as the average home down there is a million dollars.

I know a number of people down there and they are retired farmers.

I would have thought Kiwi Build would be better suited for smaller towns as an incentive for people to move there.

Crazy…
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October 1, 2018 10:40am
- sooty
  
  They need servants and gardeners!
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:57am
- RF
  
  Further to my post… 211 Kiwi Build homes to be built in Wanaka within 2 years. 10 to be ready by next year. Prices range from $565.000 to $650,000.
  
  A tidy profit for some when they sell.
  
  Something is not right here.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:07am
  - gump
    
    Why is something not right? The Government gets back all of the money it invests in underwriting the developments, and it’s only natural that the capital gain accrues to the person who risks their capital in holding the asset for the long term.
    
    Hating on kiwibuild buyers because they might make a profit is retarded. It is nothing more than the politics of envy.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:08pm
- brett68
  
  This is where the houses are being built
  http://northlake.co.nz/
  
  Tiny sections, most seem to be around 300m2. with pokey little houses
  
  Also doesn’t sound like a great place to live
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/wanaka/northlake-family-upset-treatment
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:11am
  - gump
    
    The local tennis court got taken away with no consultation.
    
    How awful! How can anybody live like that?
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:50pm
- Philview
  
  I read the other day that Kiwibuild is costing the taxpayer $2 to 3 billion. Where/How is that money being spent?
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:32am
- Komata
  
  RF
  
  Voter base?
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:38pm
- gump
  
  Wanaka is a tourism resort town. It needs local people who live there to service and support the tourism industry. Queenstown has the same problem.
  
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  October 1, 2018 1:05pm
VicParking

English place/street names are now being prefixed with a Maori co-name/replacement. I can not see why Maori names should not therefore be Suffixed with a English name.
Manuka Street should now be Manuka-Tea Tree Street, Te Aroha-Love and Tauranga-Port
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October 1, 2018 10:40am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Tauhei, where are you going for a beer at 5 p.m.?
  The Grand in Te Aroha, love.
  
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  October 1, 2018 3:57pm
waikatogirl

Kim Il Jong, Leader of the Republic of North Korea has gifted the President of South Korea 2 pure white hunting dogs, much prized in NK. The President, a dog lover will house them at his home. Kim is known for sending out killer dogs to hunt and kill former supporters who have displeased him.
I do hope the beautiful dogs are just that and have not been trained to kill their new owner on demand! ?
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October 1, 2018 10:44am
Fletch

Great. Now Countdown is banning all plastic drinking straws, just to show how woke they are. I just can’t believe this bullshit. It’s not going to help the damn planet one bit.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/countdown-stop-selling-packs-plastic-straws-immediate-effect
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October 1, 2018 10:47am
- sooty
  
  Just remember folks pickup the shopping baskets at the door and take them all the way round the shop and out to the car.
  
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  October 1, 2018 10:55am
  - Fletch
    
    I bought a pack of batteries yesterday. I felt like grabbing a plastic bag from the fruit dept to put them in, just to show my annoyance. I might still do it yet, if I have a few small purchases, just to piss them off.
    
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    October 1, 2018 11:03am
    - itstricky
      
      That’ll show them.
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:58am
    - Lucia Maria
      
      I already do that in Pak n’ Sac who charge for their bags.
      
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      October 1, 2018 1:38pm
- Inandout
  
  This will get stupid and Countdown is going to suffer when those who impulse buy (like myself) will stick closely to the shopping list. The green baskets are so handy as well.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:53am
- itstricky
  
  It’s not going to help the damn planet one bit
  
  Depends whether you categorise “the damn planet” as the turtles, sharks, birds & fish that also live on it, or not.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:57am
  - Fletch
    
    As someone posted on here the other day – it’s the rivers in Asia and Africa that are to blame for leaking plastic into the sea – NOT countries in the West.
    
    Supporters of laws prohibiting plastic products encourage politicians to make meaningless gestures rather than focus on ridding the oceans of plastic and other waste. A 2015 study in the journal Science found that of the estimated 4.8 to 12.7 million metric tons of plastic that entered the ocean from 192 of the world’s coastal countries, as little as 0.9 percent of it came from the United States.
    
    A more recent study, from the Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research, found that 90 percent of plastic polluting the world’s oceans comes from ten rivers, eight of which are in Asia; two are in Africa. In other words, developed countries such as the United States and New Zealand aren’t part of the problem, and taking away the freedoms of their citizens isn’t part of the solution either.
    
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/plastic-bag-straw-bans-ocean-pollution/
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:05pm
    - godruelf
      
      Fletch just had a couple of weeks in Vietnam I was shocked to see the amount of our plastic waste that was making the 10 hour flight just to pollute their waterways. Yeah right
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:12pm
      - gump
        
        We export our plastic waste to Vietnam and the volumes are growing now that China won’t accept it.
        
        “Thailand’s imports [of waste plastic] from New Zealand have doubled, from $269,000 to 549,000 and Vietnam’s are up 75 percent, from $43,000 to $75,000.”
        
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/354179/china-s-plastic-ban-exports-to-other-parts-of-asia-soar
        
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        October 1, 2018 12:40pm
    - big bruv
      
      But what about the feelz Fletch?
      
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      October 1, 2018 12:45pm
      - itstricky
        
        the feelz
        
        Fletch has just told us that it isn’t NZ that is the problem. How are we going to set an example for the rest of the world, if not for, what you loosely define as “the feelz” but one might, less cynically, define as “spreading environmental awareness”.
        
        Surely that’s Fletch’s plan, isn’t it?
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:15pm
    - itstricky
      
      NOT countries in the West
      
      Sit on your hands and point the finger at someone else, then?
      
      I don’t personally rate that as a plan.
      
      And, above all, let’s remember – they’re just straws.
      
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      October 1, 2018 2:10pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Goddam snowflakes like Fletch getting all upset about plastic bags and plastic straws:
        
        I felt like grabbing a plastic bag from the fruit dept to put them in, just to show my annoyance.
        
        He’s a pathetic virtue-signalling loser.
        
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        October 1, 2018 2:25pm
      - itstricky
        
        I’m sure s/he’ll be back any second to give us a run down on the plan so we can be assured that s/he is not just another virtue signalling snowflake SJW.
        
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        October 1, 2018 11:11pm
- godruelf
  
  will the supermarkets in Taupo be going back to the polystyrene meat trays now the local recycling won’t take those fancy new plastic ones.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:06pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

An interesting map of impacts of country by country impact of climate change prepared by usual thermogeddonist nuts with their tendentious biases…..

https://country-level-scc.github.io/explorer/

According to these alarmists Europe, Canada, Mongolia, Korea, Russia Chile actually get significant benefits from a warming world. And for NZ is essentially irrelevant. Even with their nutty and demonstrably wrong projections it won’t impact us.

It is idiocy for us to spend any money on it.
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October 1, 2018 10:47am
Lucia Maria

Yesterday Stuff published an article on Daylight Saving Time:

Time’s up: Should we end daylight saving in New Zealand?

Which generated 164 comments before comments were closed by the time I viewed them around midday.

One of the ironies of Stuff’s inconsistent commenting policy where they just arbitrarily shut down comments a few hours after the article goes up is that most comments could be made by those who more easily get up early & are less affected by the time change.

Then there is this doozy by the author:

I vote for year-round summer hours: for the parents, the animals and the children.

I can’t imagine anything worse. By April we get very cold mornings & the evenings are still hot. It’s a relief when DS goes away but it happens too late.

All the tinkering with DS making it longer and longer to my mind is the problem. It wasn’t such a big deal when it started on Labour Day and ended mid-March. Now it’s just painful.

But permanent summertime?? Seriously? It’s almost as if people believe changing the clocks gives us more daylight and warmer weather!
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October 1, 2018 10:49am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Stuff has to pay moderators, and eyeballs on comments falls away rapidly a few hours after publishing. Their time-limited comments are sensible
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:45am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    That would be fine if they were consistent in how long they left commenting on for each article. However, sometimes the busy threads are shut down very quickly while as quieter and/or less controversial ones are left up. The DS one looks like it only had commenting active for a couple of hours.
    
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    October 1, 2018 12:43pm
- secondcumming
  
  A good mate of mine owns a large printing business and was telling us how much he loves ‘daylight saving’. One of his biggest contracts is re-printing the Auckland Supercity’s Bus & Train timetables every 6 months.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:52am
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    LOL!
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:36pm
- Jules99
  
  It did seem that some people thought summer time meant that you got more sun. I’m on doggie time – my dog tells me when it’s time to feed her, and everything else gets planned around that. Fortunately I do work from home.
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:57pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    I can relate as we are on Kitty Time.
    
    Last night I left the kitty on the couch when I went to bed, thinking she would stay there as it was midnight, but no, she woke me up by scratching on the bedroom door at 1am to tell me she was going out.
    
    I think I forgot to tell her it was Daylight Saving time.
    
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    October 1, 2018 1:32pm
sooty

Why did Cindy get the Duck to enforce a ban on squirrels pictures in parliament?
The tits useless media took this as a ban across all of NZ.!
How come she hired a crew to follow her around New York and the UN to film her with video and stills?
This was not just family photo shots!
Then she says that it’s for the 2020 election as well!
Did she enforce the photo ban so she could sell her story, photos and book to the world media. which would be more lucrative than just NZ?
Is she declaring all this income?
Is the Jethro trousering it?
Where was Helun in all of this?
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October 1, 2018 10:53am
- Poppa
  
  Please don’t ask pesky questions Sooty.
  
  Now get back to work and earn some tax dollars for the Princess
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:07am
  - sooty
    
    In your dreams. I’m in tax credit!
    Just sold three rentals as well, went back to private ownership.
    
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    October 1, 2018 11:36am
    - Poppa
      
      I don’t blame you selling that is for sure. If I owned rentals I would be out too
      
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      October 1, 2018 11:49am
      - sooty
        
        Too bloody right, with twitford in government. I intend to hold my money closely.
        
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        October 1, 2018 1:50pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Sooty, that’s why Cullen is looking at a ‘wealth tax’. Can’t escape then – shares would be no safer.
        
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        October 2, 2018 2:34pm
- tf78
  
  Now there’s a BS lullaby for the baby squirrel
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:25pm
RF

In America they celebrate the arrival of heads of state by having aircraft taxi under spray from fire hoses. Followed by cranes parked next to motorways flying huge flags.

Will they do this for lying Ardern when she returns.
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October 1, 2018 11:13am
- stephieboy
  
  RF, highly unlikely as was the case with former PMs like Bill, John and Helen, Jenny etc.
  
  There all sorted!
  
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  October 1, 2018 12:01pm
sooty

Watch out for the Larbour partys leaders budget if it pays for the photo shoot in New York.
It’s going to be depleted in no time and Cindy will be trieing to rort more money. As we all know the leftie is never far from the trough!
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October 1, 2018 11:32am
rightoverlabour

It’s time to destroy the #metoo movement. Now don’t get me wrong, sexual assault is insidious, and I believe in either the death penalty or life ( proper life as in never released) for violent rapists. However, the number of deranged women who are suddenly having clear recollections on events that may or may not have happened 35 years ago is alarming. All you have to do today to destroy a man is claim they “sexually assaulted” you at a party 35 years ago.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45698134
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October 1, 2018 12:43pm
- itstricky
  
  Now don’t get me wrong
  
  So you’re suggesting that large numbers of women are devious liars and are happy to have their names dragged through the international media for a handout, then?
  
  Not something I ever considered as a career invigorating choice but I guess if you think it’s likely…
  
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  October 1, 2018 2:20pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Yes.
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:31pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Here are some academic papers. The average False claim is about 5%. Interestingly, False Rape Claims are 5 x higher than any other False Crime Claim. What would be interesting is since the #metoo movement whether the number of false claims has risen.
      
      https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/the-prevalence-of-false-allegations-of-rape-in-the-united-states-from-20062010-2475-319X-1000119.pdf
      
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:42pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        In the second link its 41%.
        
        The 5% figure seems to ignore all the studies it referenced at about 10%. That references to self admitted, withdrawn false complaints. It does not account for false compliants that reach trial, or even conviction.
        
        The Greeks did a study at 7.5% proven false and 25% believed to be false.
        
        False rape compliants are a common alibi for adult females engaging in underage sex, sympathy, revenge, and monetary gain. This includes NZs ACC payout.
        In the US with open media, fame becomes a motive as well. As seen recently with the SCOTUS debacle. The woman involved has already got $500,000 US as a golden handshake from ignorant donors.
        
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        October 1, 2018 4:43pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      15 minutes of ‘fame’, the sympathy vote, you name it.
      
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      October 1, 2018 4:52pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    6,000 women every year in NZ lie to thier boyfriends and husbands that they have become fathers. They then screw them over for the financial rewards and support from those fathers. That’s about $1,200,000,000 of crime every year in NZ.
    
    Yes women are devious liars. If you don’t agree, make paternity testing compulsory and prove its not true. Waiting……
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:31pm
    - stephieboy
      
      DJ Ward, well shall er say not “all” true!
      
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      October 1, 2018 4:41pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        I can’t work out what your trying to say!
        
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        October 1, 2018 4:46pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      *some* women, DJ, can we agree on that?
      
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      October 2, 2018 2:37pm
- MCos
  
  “However, the number of deranged women who are suddenly having clear recollections on events that may or may not have happened 35 years ago is alarming.”
  
  I spent a year in hospital when I was three, almost seventy years ago.
  I have vague memories of some traumatic things that happened back then.
  Apart from that you could try reading a few autobiographies/biographies. People have no problem whatsoever recalling in vivid detail salient episodes in their lives that can be confirmed by witnesses.
  
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  October 1, 2018 4:21pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    People have no problem whatsoever recalling in vivid detail salient episodes in their lives that can be confirmed by witnesses
    
    Agreed. I think the issue here is when there are no credible witnesses, and the ‘vivid recollection’ is nothing more than a malicious summoning of SJW’s to persecute the innocent subject.
    
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    October 1, 2018 4:34pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Yes, I can remember events from when I was three. But there are hundreds of events that I only have vague memories of, and often when discussing events with people who were there, the details are often vague and sometimes contradictory. There are others that are only remembered when I see photographs… Psychologists argue that each time we recall a memory we actually alter it. Our memories are very fallible….. Yet people are going to jail because of this.
    
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    October 1, 2018 5:16pm
Komata

sooty

Here Simon, nice Simon, another plate of CoL failures for you to eat and spit back at them..

‘But I don’t LIKE Col failures, in fact I agree with most of their policies. again, and again, and again and…, and as for ‘Spitting’ – that’s ‘unhygenic….’

We appear to have a NINO (c) (National In Name Only (c) ) in charge…
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October 1, 2018 12:49pm
softail 1450

OH GOD, the ultimate madness, some leftie sjw has won a competition writing a lullaby for Jacinda and bubba ,FFS what next ,oh i know lets name one of the new Air NZ jets or a new battleship after bubba.
NZ , nothing more than the Arderns plaything and bugger the price….
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October 1, 2018 1:14pm
- Fletch
  
  They will be printing it in little red books next, that we will be given and have to recite every morning and night.
  
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  October 1, 2018 2:03pm
  - stigie
    
    Please pass a bucket, im not well !~
    
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    October 1, 2018 2:28pm
    - Morrissey
      
      If a young mum and handsome dad and beautiful baby make you unwell, then THIS will make you vomit….
      
      http://i.imgur.com/wT4XtDj.gif
      
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      October 1, 2018 2:44pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        Campbell stooping to whatever low required to present news. Got it.
        
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        October 1, 2018 4:53pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Campbell stooping to whatever low required to present news.
        
        ???? It wasn’t John Campbell fondling those little girls’ ponytails, to the evident consternation of their mothers.
        
        Got it.
        
        No, you haven’t got it, not even slightly.
        
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        October 1, 2018 6:12pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    In Maori, Fletch.
    
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    October 2, 2018 2:40pm
Morrissey

Real Madrid honours one of the world’s bravest teenagers

More than any La Liga or Champions League victory, this is what truly brings glory to a sports team….

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/real-madrid-football-club-honours-palestine-activist-ahed-tamimi-180930100616622.html
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October 1, 2018 2:22pm
- mandk
  
  Yeah, she’ll be a big fan of throwing homosexuals off buildings, using kids as human shields, executing political opponents, and oppressing women.
  
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  October 1, 2018 3:02pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    and dragging bodies of people recently on Hamas’ shit-list through the streets behind motorbikes.
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:19pm
  - Morrissey
    
    No, she’s a brave young human rights activist. I have no doubt YOU would support all of those things, just like you support the weekly murder and maiming of ambulance drivers, reporters, nurses and children in Gaza.
    
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    October 1, 2018 3:28pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      by Hamas Terrorists….
      
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      October 1, 2018 3:46pm
    - mandk
      
      You are the epitome of useful idiocy, Morrissey.
      
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      October 1, 2018 4:10pm
- Inandout
  
  That’s one photo op that Cindy missed.
  
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  October 1, 2018 4:31pm
  - Morrissey
    
    No surprises if she doesn’t meet with Ahed Tamimi. After all, she wouldn’t meet with refugees in Nauru because she was afraid of antagonizing those weaklings in Canberra; the abuse that would come down on her head from the Israeli regime and its robotic supporters would be many, many times worse. She no doubt remembers the vicious and bizarre attacks on Lorde earlier this year.
    
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    October 1, 2018 6:08pm
    - starboard
      
      Who is this Lorde you speak of ?
      
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      October 1, 2018 6:32pm
      - Morrissey
        
        In the world of pop music she’s the equivalent of Jacinda Ardern and Jeremy Corbyn—massively popular, particularly with young people.
        
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        October 1, 2018 6:48pm
      - notrotsky
        
        ‘I did not think it would be possible to despise a Labour leader more than Tony Blair or Gordon Brown. Yet Corbyn has already overtaken the Renfrewshire Cyclops as literal and figurative unflushable ‘Number 2’, now only behind the seismic deity of cunt himself.’
        
        http://is-a-cunt.com/category/jeremy-corbyn/
        
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        October 1, 2018 7:51pm
rangitoto

How is this possible when Cindy said capitalism has failed?

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2018/09/27/a-global-tipping-point-half-the-world-is-now-middle-class-or-wealthier/
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October 1, 2018 2:41pm
- stephieboy
  
  rangitoto. tell that to the US Middle Class which is destructing before our very eyes!
  
  From your link,
  
  https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2018/06/05/seven-reasons-to-worry-about-the-american-middle-class/
  
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  October 1, 2018 4:35pm
  - Inandout
    
    No stephie, Hillary is destructing before our very eyes.
    
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    October 1, 2018 4:46pm
- krazykiwi
  
  She only said “capitalism has failed” to pad out the speech. She needed something is intersperse the repeated use of the word ‘comrade’, and ‘capitalism has failed’ probably seemed compelling at the time.
  
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  October 1, 2018 4:37pm
- Prince
  
  Wasn’t it Peters who said capitalism had failed ? It’s working well for Ardern – expenses on us, and today announced $1 mil upgrade to Premier House.
  
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  October 1, 2018 6:58pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    I was about that note that this isn’t capitalism, more the spoils of socialism … but then it occurred to me that socialism is only sustained by taxing the value created by capitalism.
    
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    October 1, 2018 7:37pm
DigNap15

Yes I don’t see anything good about Maori past or present culture, past or present
Its basically stoneage, violent and with no real culture, written, deep, language, literature,
They did have good carvings, and poi dances are OK.

The more I get it rammed down my throat the more I hate it.
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October 1, 2018 5:01pm
RW Capitalist

Last month, I asked Chris Bishop to look into why my wife’s diabetes podiatry care visits had been halved. This is my response to his reply.
and the reply he got from the DHB>
Thank you Dawn,
So what they are saying.
That, without a medical reassessment, my wife’s podiatry appointments have been HALVED ie cut.
By this letter, we are being told to, basically, shut up, because everyone else is in the same boat.
ie they don’t have enough MONEY to run the service.
Is this true of other ancillary services?
Thank you for all you have done.
Hopefully Chris can somehow hold them to account for this.
I find it hypocritical of this govt. to talk about “caring” when they are cutting HEALTH services, due to a lack of funds and not clinical need.
Again thank you, for all your work.
Please take it that as soon as there is an election, this collection of incompetent circus clowns, masquerading as a government, will NOT get my vote.

Yours Sincerely
me
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October 1, 2018 5:37pm
lifesgood

Here’s a great story from the “You could not make this shit up” files. On the Jim Mora programme today there were a maori man (didn’t catch his name) and Nadine Higgins. Judge Becroft was on the line talking about the poor misunderstood maori and why they feature so highly in all the wrong statistics. The maori man and Nadine, predictably from a pair of lefties, tut tutted and said it was all down to colonisation. BUT then Higgins starts spouting off about this amazing young refugee man she met who came to NZ, learnt English in a year, topped his class, succeeded to the highest level started a business etc, etc. Did she not see the irony in her remarks? If a refugee, who by all accounts went through some incredibly difficult times, can succeed, why make excuses for maori who have been given every opportunity? There are no excuses and making excuses up for them is simply enabling them. They just need to get off their backsides and work.
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October 1, 2018 5:55pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Refugee is intelligent and motivated, due to the luck of genetics. Maori mostly aren’t, again due to the luck of genetics.
  
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  October 1, 2018 7:56pm
Morrissey

STOP GROPER No. 43!!!

The American people just HATE His Dishonor Brett Kavanaugh (Groper No. 43).

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-stasisunday-20180928-story.html

http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/09/gropers-no-43-dishonorable-brett.html
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October 1, 2018 5:57pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The scum at the bottom of the gene pool has just come up for a breath.
  His name is Morris Minor.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:42pm
wreck1080

Travellers who refuse to hand over their phone or laptop passwords to Customs officials can now be slapped with a $5000 fine.

The Customs and Excise Act 2018 – which comes into effect today – sets guidelines around how Customs can carry out “digital strip-searches”.”

officials would need to have a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing.

I don’t see how this can work. “Reasonable suspicion” is subjective and could apply to any traveller when presented in an engineered context.
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October 1, 2018 6:01pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I trust a record of each “strip search” is made, so that overseeing authorities can judge whether the new rules actually yield results or simply keep civil servants employed.
  If the new rules are found to add no value, they should be scrapped.
  
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  October 1, 2018 6:26pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    You trust?
    
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    October 1, 2018 6:34pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It’s a figure of speech.
      
      I suspect that Parkinson’s Law is part of the reason for it. (Parkinson’s law is the adage that “work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.”)
      
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      October 1, 2018 6:38pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Did somebody say “strip search”???!!!??
    
    Shane Jones, M.P.
    
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    October 1, 2018 6:53pm
- fernglas
  
  Suspicion is subjective- does the officer have one- and reasonable is objective- was it one based on objectively reasonable grounds. It’s a test which applies all the time in different contexts
  
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  October 1, 2018 6:36pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”was it one based on objectively reasonable grounds”…..
    
    Isn’t “reasonable” a subjective word?
    
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    October 1, 2018 6:40pm
    - fernglas
      
      The objective test is basically what a reasonable person knowing all the facts would consider to be reasonable, rather than what the individual themselves thought. Needless to say, in determining objective reasonableness, there needs to be a subjective assessment by any trier of fact, but the difference in this case is not whether the individual officer had the suspicion, but whether a reasonable person would have had that suspicion. As we see on Kiwiblog regularly, there are many people who have suspicions that are not what we would call reasonable. But we would expect our law enforcement officers not just to be suspicious, but to hold that suspicion on ground that the general public would consider reasonable. This is an important buffer against abuse of power.
      
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      October 1, 2018 9:11pm
      - wreck1080
        
        Immigration officers do abuse their power. Now they have more power.
        
        Remember the family nanny they imprisoned? Or the teenage girl they deported because they coerced her into saying she might babysit for her relatives. Not that it was even a reason to deport.
        
        If there are so many buffers against abuse then why does it happen anyway?
        
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        October 1, 2018 11:03pm
Manolo

Pocahontas threatens:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-says-shell-take-a-hard-look-at-running-for-president-after-novembers-midterms
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October 1, 2018 6:42pm
- RF
  
  Known as walking bird.
  
  So full of shit she is unable to fly.
  
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  October 1, 2018 9:30pm
  - fernglas
    
    Can anyone think of a Democrat who would be a foe worthy of Trump’s steel?
    
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    October 1, 2018 9:44pm
nasska

At regular intervals we have knowall social conservatives screaming about the risks associated with sharing roads or working with people who may have used marijuana. Perhaps they might put aside their feelz & have a read of this study:

…..”Alcohol use in the six hours prior to injury was associated with a relative risk of 3.00 (C.I.: 1.78, 5.04) compared with no alcohol use, a dose-response relationship also was found. Cannabis use was inversely related to risk of injury (RR: 0.33; C.I.: 0.12, 0.92), also in a dose-response like manner. “……

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2654886/
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October 1, 2018 6:46pm
krazykiwi

Oh, here we go: Primary teachers’ union recommends rolling regional strikes.
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October 1, 2018 6:58pm
- DigNap15
  
  But Ardern said there would be no strikes!
  
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  October 1, 2018 7:26pm
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    DigNap15 , it could be said to be the consequences of putting the screws down on wage rises for nine years.
    
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    October 1, 2018 7:37pm
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      Even you does not believe that, dear stephieboy. Ardern’s socialist government incompetence is for all to see.
      
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      October 1, 2018 7:51pm
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        Did your mummy let you stay up late there. Seen as it’s the school holidays. stoopid boy?
        
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        October 1, 2018 8:57pm
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      So why are our wages higher than just about most countries in the world
      
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      October 2, 2018 4:37am
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Oh dear..you stupid, stupid little girl..

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/09/petrol-prices-heading-for-2-70-economist.html

“The latest fuel tax increase has sent prices soaring yet again with petrol prices up by 3.5 cents per litre. Taxes on petrol are set to continue increasing with national price hikes of three to four cents a litre in each of the next three years.”
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October 1, 2018 8:39pm
- Manolo
  
  The socialist’s master plan is to wreck the country’s economy by breaking the back of productive NZ (farmers, small business owners, professionals, etc).
  
  They are counting on PM Ardern to achieve their dastardly objective.
  
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  October 1, 2018 8:57pm
Jack5

Neo-apartheid, this time favouring Maori, to run rampant in NZ universities?

Maori plans are advanced to take over Massey University, and Don Brash, one of the few politicians game to have an opinion on this, has expressed his concern.

On Stuff the plans are outlined as including:

1. Setting up a Treaty charter to guide the university, to be in place by March. Staff workshops were held this month to discuss how the charter can be implemented and monitored.

2. Building “Maori research capacity” through a recruitment and investment programme.

3. Developing a Maori student parity policy “as part of Massey’s commitment to indigenous knowledge development and leadership”.

4. Engaging with Maori communities.

5. Putting a framework in place by the middle of 2019 to monitor and recognise all staff who demonstrate Maori cultural capabilities.

Stuff reports that Professor Huia Jahnke, on behalf of the university’s Maori academic staff, said Massey University would be the first institute of its kind in New Zealand and other “colonised, Western nations” to adopt indigenous perspectives into its framework.

Where does National stand on this? When will the Australian vet. be fired – the vet. who let Maori activists take over Massey University?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/107502374/don-brash-raises-concerns-about-massey-universitys-treaty-plans
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  If Jahnke says this will be the first university in a “colonised, Western nation” to adopt indigenous perspectives, what is going on with three wananga – the special Maori tertiary institutions?
  
  Can a Western university still be a university if it’s based on – let’s be honest – what was until recently a Stone Age culture.
  
  We need a debate on whether indigenous culture, right down to mysticism and shamanism, are compatible with Western traditions of science, learning, and academia – with modern world knowledge.
  
  Perhaps Jahnke and her fellow Maori culture academics belong in wananga.
  
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  October 1, 2018 11:00pm
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    No they belong in a Kohanga Reo
    
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    October 2, 2018 4:36am
Jack5

Hugh Pavletich will report on this tomorrow,but for those who like their news hot …

Aussies planning to get home mortgages are warned: “… a new report warns the amount home buyers can borrow could be slashed by a third if banks are forced to tighten their lending standards after the royal commission.”

Australia’s Banking royal Commission is likely to recommend that banks conduct full income and expense verification to assess a borrower’s financial position, says a commentator.

He adds that the commission raised the risk of the current credit squeeze turning into a “credit crunch”.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/house-prices-have-biggest-drop-since-gfc-amid-warnings-of-credit-crunch-20181001-p50729.html
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Jack5

China aims to become world’s biggest wine maker, and Aussie winemakers are helping.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-01/australians-helping-china-become-worlds-biggest-wine-maker/10324624
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Ghandi wouldn’t have had a snowball’s show in hell of getting on to the American Supreme Court as a judge – too much skin in the game …

The Guardian ponders over Ghandi sleeping with naked young women 60 years his junior. They reckon he was he just testing himself …

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/01/gandhi-celibacy-test-naked-women
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October 2, 2018 12:34am
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AUSTRALIA: Comparing Australia’s housing correction to prior downturns … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/comparing-australias-housing-correction-prior-downturns/

By Leith van Onselen

With Australian dwelling values falling for 12 consecutive months, according to CoreLogic (see next chart), it’s an opportune time to compare the current housing correction to prior episodes. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… Pavletich comment on thread …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/comparing-australias-housing-correction-prior-downturns/#comment-3194972

Many thanks Leith.

I found this ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) programme of a year ago with Sir Ron Brierleys comments rather helpful …

30 years on, Lessons of the 1987 share market crash with former PM Paul Keating (and others) … ABC The Business … 18 October 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhiE_zXAxx8

Sir Ron Brierley …

Ron Brierley – Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Brierley
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Hugh Pavletich

Emerging Markets Slammed By Soaring Oil Prices | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-01/emerging-markets-slammed-soaring-oil-prices

US consumers may be cursing rising gasoline prices which are rapidly approaching an average of $3.00 across the nation as Brent hits a new 4 year high above $84, but that is nothing compared to the horror that motorists across most emerging markets are facing. … read more via hyperlink above …

https://www.zerohedge.com/
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