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holysheet

Mother Superior addresses 100 nuns in the convent after morning prayers:

“Ladies,” she says sternly “Last night a man was in the living quarters.”

Ninety-nine nuns gasp.
One nun says, “Tee hee hee.”

“Furthermore, we found a used condom.”

Ninety-nine nuns gasp.
One nun says, “Tee hee hee”.

“The condom had a tear in it.”

One nun gasps.
Ninety-nine nuns say “Tee hee hee.”
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October 16, 2018 8:00am
- Inandout
  
  Amusingly this joke reminds me somewhat of a ‘Jack Taylor’ episode, set in Ireland.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:05am
- itstricky
  
  Is that the origin of the holy sheet?
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:05am
  - Tall Man
    
    Holy shit more like…..
    
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    October 16, 2018 6:35pm
waikatogirl

Cindy tells Duncan they have ruled out tax cuts despite a 5.5b surplus. She says that money will be spent. ? ? ?
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October 16, 2018 8:02am
- holysheet
  
  Not a good thing to admit is it. National provides a surplus, liabour spend it and then Cindy say they will not be able to do the same in the future.
  
  What kind of dumbarse admits to this?
  One that hasn’t got a clue about how the economy works.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:06am
  - Harkman
    
    Then a recession comes and wipes it all out. Then the swing voter comes back to their senses and realises Labour are a pack of traitors.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:27am
  - dave_c_
    
    I see more lies coming from the anointed ones mouth this morning. She indicated that they need to be prudent and not spend it as that would mean that that spend needs to be budgetted for in the ensuing years.
    What a two faced lying cow – wasn’t their whole election campaign budgetted for by NOT including provision for year on year spend ?
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:03am
- cmm
  
  A surplus is basically a result of over taxation.
  
  When they spend it, instead of giving it back, they are effectively taxing us more.
  
  So that means tax payers really just paid an extra $10k of tax in 2017/18.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:08am
  - kiwiracer
    
    Correct, but remember in her eyes by spending it they are giving it back, to the people she thinks will vote for them.
    She deals in ideologies, not realities.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:50am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  Yeah that’s why all those high paid ex union reps and ngoers that make up a large portion of Labor will always have a low net worth.
  
  Spend, spend, spend… Meanwhile those evil capitalists get richer because they withhold from spending some of their income to invest in their business ventures to earn additional money that they don’t have to sell their time to other capitalists for…. And in the process create jobs etc…etc…
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:11am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Keynesianism says you spend a lot and run deficits when the economy is slow to create a stimulus. When the economy is strong you run surpluses and save.
  
  But the left want to spend all the time. They talked incessantly about Keynesianism a few years ago but now it’s never mentioned and instead they want to spend like crazy ‘because we can afford it’.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:12am
- mark15
  
  Didn’t Cindy say that capitalism had failed?
  Doesn’t look like it from here…
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:29am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    I think it was the Minister of Dementia that uttered that in one of his rare moments of lucidity.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:43am
- Tall Man
  
  Will be…lying bitch..has been.
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:36pm
AgainstTheFlow

First day of select committee hearings on the oil and gas exploration ban.
First day of only four allotted to look at around 2000 submissions and to hear from people wanting to be heard in person.

Companies with billions invested will get 15 minutes.

Just 15 minutes to explain the complexity of the energy sector and why the ban is a stupid and expensive mistake.

Do the morons in the Beehive understand sovereign risk?
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October 16, 2018 8:05am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Of course they do. That’s why the select committee process has been so truncated.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:10am
- stigie
  
  At least the catering will be top class at the taxpayers expense !~ //
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:13am
  - Longknives
    
    Is Ali Mau the MC again?
    Jesus we need the Oil and Gas industry just to pay her fee…
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:15am
    - sooty
      
      And is Angry organising it?
      
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      October 16, 2018 8:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        Can I go?????
        
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        October 16, 2018 6:37pm
backster

Strangely the mass media seem not to have hilighted a key component of the latest IPCC doomesday report on Global Warming. It also tends to explain the vendetta against Public Companies by Miss Adern and Winston’s stooge Shame Jones , and the statementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfETEx2nCk&feature=em-uploademails by Adern and Pters that Capitalism has failed….
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October 16, 2018 8:07am
- Harkman
  
  Last Thursday in Chch, it was 6°c in the middle the day in October. On Monday morning it dropped to 0°c, in October. This September and October have been the coldest I can remember.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:31am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I blame John Keys
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:14am
    - VicParking
      
      No its all the cold shoulders from those womxn’s
      
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      October 16, 2018 12:11pm
- Tall Man
  
  Fake News…ask anyone in COL of liars….
  
  Open and transparent……
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:38pm
Left Right and Centre

Jacob is genderqueer and uses the pronouns they / them (2’23” into video)

They / them can go / get lost.
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October 16, 2018 8:09am
- riffer
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I understand you’re conservative, but at some stage you are going to have to accept that society does change. It’s inevitable. You will end up in the minority on this one. In 20 years time people will wonder what all the fuss was about.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:40am
  - Colinxy
    
    “They, their, them” are plural pronouns.
    
    Only Monarchs, Editors, and People with Tapeworms Have the Right to Use the Editorial ‘We’
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:56am
    - VicParking
      
      Can I use piddle instead?
      
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      October 16, 2018 12:11pm
    - Tall Man
      
      And those with dissociative identity disorder like Winston.
      
      One day he thinks he’s a c–t and the next day he knows he is.
      
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      October 16, 2018 6:42pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Well a lot can happen in 20 years, the Empire will strike back.
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:29am
    - Jack5
      
      Yep. The Germans were very progressive in social terms in the Weimar Republic (1919-to 1933), then along came Alois Schicklgruber’s little boy, Adolf.
      You can’t count on society moving the way you want.
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:28pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Fungus grows on rotten wood…what’s your point.
    No question mark because I don’t care what your answer is.
    
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    October 16, 2018 6:41pm
brett68

Interesting tweet and really shows that TVNZ is working for the Labour government.

https://twitter.com/RichardMorganNZ/status/1051770643287425024

If National make it back in they have to deal to TVNZ, you can not have the state broadcaster operating in such a blatantly partisan manner.

Either completely restructure it, firing the worst offenders or sell it.
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October 16, 2018 8:10am
- sooty
  
  Close it down!
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:19am
  - Dave Mann
    
    No, don’t close it down. FIX IT.
    
    A genuinely unbiased intelligent state broadcaster which can be relied on to broadcast NEWS and QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT is a very valuable resource in a small country and we should enforce standards on TVNZ and make it perform, not close it down.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:35am
    - riffer
      
      Well, this is very true, but we all have different opinions on quality. Like all news, TVNZ has become a regurgitator of press releases and journalists asking each other questions. We all want quality TV, but are we prepared to pay for what they will actually cost? You need a lot of behind the scenes staff to bring that about.
      
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      October 16, 2018 8:42am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      The difference with a state broadcaster is they’re not required to make a profit. The main practical consequence of that is they are not as motivated to give viewers what they want.
      
      Essentially all arguments for a state broadcaster boil down to this: you want to see stuff that most other people don’t want, but you want them to pay for it.
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:12am
  - Harkman
    
    Seriously, National should have shut these buggers down they didn’t.
    
    BTW, is Mark Richardson the only person who is not left wing, currently on NZ television?
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:36am
    - Manolo
      
      National never showed any interest. In fact, it did lack the balls to take action against TVNZ or RNZ.
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:38am
      - Tall Man
        
        Why would they? They were polling so well and they had an intelligent team working as a team it was hard for the lefty journos to get any traction…hence…Jacindamania born and bred in your local newsroom.
        
        Like syphilis, it just appears..usually from a toilet seat…ask Winston.
        
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        October 16, 2018 6:47pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  TVNZ is to Labour what the ABC is to Labor. Public funded mouth pieces of the LEFT
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:49am
  - freethinker
    
    Just did a short survey on Zerohedge and 94% of respondents thought CNN was total shite. Wonder what a TVNZ survey would show?
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:17am
    - Tall Man
      
      Spent more time than I really should have watching CNN while in Asia recently. That survey must have been taken in a couple of alzheimer homes as they are 100% shit…no offense to those afflicted intended.
      
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      October 16, 2018 6:50pm
- igm
  
  Anyone who employs John Campbell should be sacked, along with the greasy little wimp.
  When National return Radio NZ and TVNZ must be dispensed with either by sale (if anyone is silly enough to buy them) or immediate closure.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:26am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Well I got polled last night by them, lots of questions regarding Simon, ‘the leak’, who I would vote for if there was an election held tomorrow, who I had voted for previously, who I thought should lead the National party, whether I thought a mill.$ was well spent on Harry and Meghan, my wage range, my educational level, referendum on legalising cannabis, (I took the 5th), whether I had altered my spending and travel due to the fuel increases (about three questions) and bizarrely I thought, how many mobile phones for business or personal use that I had.
  None about whether or not the Government was doing a good job and delivering on election promises, (that I recall anyway).
  I had just been posting on Kiwiblog re Jami Lee when Jan rang lol, perfect timing.
  
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  October 16, 2018 11:43am
- Tall Man
  
  “Can you bump into me for a coffee sometime…I’ll keep my diary clear” (as in sanitised).
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:44pm
Longknives

Having known a nice,quiet child who committed suicide because of relentless,merciless bullying at School- Nicola Jenks is my nomination for ‘New Zealander of the year’!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12142701

I know I will get downticks- But who was going to do anything about it? The gutless Teachers certainly won’t, Police won’t go near anything involving Juveniles either…
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October 16, 2018 8:12am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Talking about NZOTY . . .
  If someone comes from overseas, how long before they qualify as an eligible New Zealander ?
  Could someone win in their first year here ?
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:16am
  - sooty
    
    Gollygee, cerainly won the first prize!
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:21am
- MT_Tinman
  
  I know I will get downticks
  
  Not from me you won’t!
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:22am
- riffer
  
  Teachers are hamstrung, so are Police. Where the law fails, vigilante justice prevails. It’s not how it should be, but it is effective. No downtick here.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:44am
- Gravelroad
  
  Having had a young family member bullied by girls at secondary school, I can tell you that it can take a very long time indeed for them to “get over it”. Girl on girl bullying has long term effects on confidence and self esteem long after those responsible for it have forgotten all.
  We asked the school principal and senior teachers to take some action several times.
  One response was that “ we don’t know what to do. Many of our teachers are scared of these girls themselves.”
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:45am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    If authorities won’t act go after their family – Embarrass them publicly. Stand outside their house or parents workplace with a big placard, etc…
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:12am
  - dave_c_
    
    or scared of being strung up themselves by the PC authorities.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:08am
- Tall Man
  
  I taught my children to stand up to bullies, then take the next step if needed.
  
  My son was five when a couple of bullies had a wee crack. He smacked the biggest in the nose..the teacher said you shouldn’t hit people in the face and my boy…love him heaps said, “no my dad said punch him in the fucking nose if he threatens you”. Even the teacher recounting the story to us at interview time had to smile.
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:54pm
big bruv

Has that hack Tracey Watkins had the decency yet to out herself as a nailed on fan-girl of the SLG and the COL?
If she is not writing nauseating puff pieces about horse face she is writing attack pieces for them about Soimon and the Nat’s.
Watkins can support what ever party she likes, hell she can even be a cheer leader for horse face but she really must stop pretending to be a journalist.
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October 16, 2018 8:14am
- MT_Tinman
  
  In Watkins defence she is just following the pack – thinking is far too hard for NZ slime.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:24am
  - riffer
    
    My thoughts too. The media are neither left nor right (a few exceptions notwithstanding). They simply like to stir the pot.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:46am
    - waikatosinger
      
      I would have said they are simply lazy and stupid.
      
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      October 16, 2018 8:54am
      - riffer
        
        Lazy yes, Stupid no. But I wouldn’t blame the individual journalists for this. They are directed by their managers how to work. The commercial imperative dictates the methodology.
        
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        October 16, 2018 9:03am
Tarquin North

National are meeting to decide the future of Jamie Lee Ross today. Simon Bridges said he was the leaker JLR denies this. Peters Mallard and Tova O’Brien claim to know who the leaker was. Surely they must stand up and clear the air, a mans future is in their hands.
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October 16, 2018 8:16am
- artemisia
  
  Saying nothing is a statement in itself.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:19am
- DigNap15
  
  No a sleezeballs future is in their hands
  He was the one with a mental sickness, so what is he doing in Parliament?
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:20am
  - holysheet
    
    By that standard I would say that more than half of all MP’s are mentally ill.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:37am
- tas
  
  Even if JLR is not the leaker (but he almost certainly is), his twitter outburst is inexcusible.
  
  If you don’t like the leader, you quietly do the numbers and roll them. Undermining them via the media is utterly self-defeating. We can see how white anting works out in Australia.
  
  JLR should be booted out of National so hard that he lands across the ditch.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:22am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    A far better punishment would be for National to release a statement noting that as Ross is unwell they will not be expelling him but simply placing him on the lowest rung of the ladder with zero responsibilities until he gets well.
    
    This removes the ammunition of the slime while demonstrating compassion (and, of course, pissing Ross off even more).
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:32am
  - peterwn
    
    A slight complication – does the National Party electorate committee members in his electorate still support him? If he is forced out (as he can be under the Waka Hopper law), a by-election is going to be extremely messy for National. Winston is probably already nosing around.
    Perhaps Jamie will be credited with the Waka Hopper law staying on the books for ever.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:33am
  - riffer
    
    It’s a sticky one.
    
    If he’s truly mentally ill, it’s a bad look (in today’s times) for his employer to fire him for it.
    
    If he’s not mentally ill, it’s a bad look for National all round because they tried to play that card.
    
    Lose:lose situation no matter what. Worst case scenario right now would be if JLR did something terrible to himself, and left a letter saying it was all National’s fault, and Tova O’Brien publicly stated he was not the leaker. And releases the tape JLR claims to have made.
    
    This has the potential to be disastrous.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:48am
    - Inandout
      
      riffer: As regards JLR, what happened to the men in white coats, stealthily on a windy night?
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:25am
      - riffer
        
        Inandout:- from Te Ara – In a mix of ideological and fiscal imperatives, almost all psychiatric hospitals were closed, recycled, sold off or run down by the 1990s. This was a result of haphazard local schemes rather than a carefully managed national plan. In this final phase of deinstitutionalisation, very few psychiatric hospitals retained any services on their historic campuses, like Hillmorton Hospital, formerly known as Sunnyside Hospital.
        
        The transition to a system of community-based services became very complex and messy as it coincided with several waves of health sector management change in the 1980s and 1990s. The rapid growth and spread of multiple agencies – public, private and voluntary, local, regional, national, and culturally-based – funded under different contracts to provide aspects of care and support increasingly lacked coordination and certainty.
        
        TL:DR – neoliberalism.
        
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        October 16, 2018 12:06pm
  - mara
    
    Barely Sober just told Leighton Smith that JLR is about to resign from Cabinet. No booting out required. What next for Botany?
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:59am
    - Tall Man
      
      He isn’t in cabinet.
      
      I don’t even think he is in the closet…..
      
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      October 16, 2018 7:06pm
- Paulus
  
  Tova must have a new notch on her bedpost – she got Ross and hopes to get Bridges.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:31am
  - Inandout
    
    Tova is of Irish descent, so don’t expect anything logical in her behaviour.
    
    ‘An American lawyer asked, “Paddy, why is it that whenever you ask an Irishman a question, he answers with another question? “Who told you that?” asked Paddy’.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:37am
    - KevOB
      
      True. Try and get a straight answer out of me. The words “yes” and “no” seem to be omitted from my vocab and I’ve never been to Ireland but can claim a 5/8 part.
      
      There is also a weird physical directional sense too: right and left seem inverted.
      
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      October 16, 2018 10:16am
      - Tall Man
        
        I like Jamesons..and I really liked an Irish girl once..am I fucked??
        
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        October 16, 2018 7:08pm
- Yvette
  
  Jamie Lee Ross, if not the leaker, texter and mentally-unwell MP, will then be able to give a sensible and acceptable explanation of each of the phone calls the PWC Investigation Report lists him making –
  • two calls to the Speaker
  • at least nine calls to an RNZ reporter ranging from one that was three minutes after Bridges said there would be an inquiry, to one at10:19 pm
  • and at least seven to a senior Police Officer –all within the dates prescribed.
  Won’t he …
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:38am
artemisia

A question. If Mr Ross becomes an independent electoral MP pro tem, could he stay on indefinite paid sick leave? Subject to medical certificates of course.
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October 16, 2018 8:18am
- sooty
  
  Then he could give someone his vote. Will 5he other partys line up at his door.
  Or could he be removed because mentally unstable?
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:27am
- waikatosinger
  
  It is a conundrum. Will Bridges invoke Winston’s disastrously horrible new electoral integrity act? Hopefully Mr Ross will simply see that his position is untenable and resign.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:00am
  - Paulus
    
    Has resigned.
    
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    October 16, 2018 1:44pm
- Tall Man
  
  No.
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:08pm
secondcumming

*A CHINK IN THE ARMOR*

Flicking channels between MAFS & *Border Patrol* last night. Once again we see Customs intercept a major haul of *Pseudoepherdrine*, concealed in a consignment of Chinese Chequer Boards. They estimated it would have a street value of about $3 million.

We now read about and see this happening almost on a daily basis. A mate of mine that works for Customs reckons they’re lucky if they discover 10% of what’s actually slipping thru the border. This represents a real threat to New Zealand and our way of life. He believes this is all part of China’s greater plan to weaken the West.

To paraphrase that famous line from *Star Trek*….

“We are the China-Borgs. Lower your shields and surrender your ship. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE”
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October 16, 2018 8:21am
- Jules99
  
  Scott Adams has been talking on his vlog about China sending huge amounts of Fentanyl into the US – tens of thousands of US citizens are dying of Fentanyl overdoses.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:12am
  - howitis
    
    We started it.
    Well, at least Britain did in the 1800s with the Opium Wars:-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
    
    What goes around comes around and there is little the West can say.
    From a control aspect it is an good idea and proven to have effect.
    Sadly we (multiple countries) are the victim of this repeat of history.
    
    extract
    …In 1820, China’s economy was the largest in the world, according to British economist Angus Maddison.[3] Within a decade after the end of the Second Opium War, China’s share of global GDP had fallen by half…
    
    I’m not saying it is good but it is a reality with precedent and one that got results.
    Eternal Vigilance and all that.
    
    It is another plus on the ledger to legalise organic /natural/true marijuana because that shit that is called ‘synthetic cannabis’ has ??? chemicals in it and much sourced from China.
    Allowing legal marijuana means you can have product where the source is known; the strength is known – like a bottle of wine or beer; it cannot be used as a gateway to stronger product like methamphetamine -” oh sorry bro we are out of weed but as goodwill have some of this (meth) on da house”.
    
    Until these governments get with reality China can play with these countries like a kittens with a ball of wool.
    It is time for grown up solutions to grown up problems.
    
    The USA has many states that legalised marijuana but they can’t use the Federal banking system.
    https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/01/22/why-marijuana-retailers-cant-use-banks
    extracts:
    …Nearly two-thirds of America’s states have legalised pot sales for certain uses, but the federal government still classifies marijuana as a “Schedule 1” drug, on a par with heroin. Banks that handle marijuana money can be charged with money laundering. Pot businesses, therefore, are on the whole stuck working with cash…
    
    …The predicament of Oregon, where recreational pot became legal in 2015, is a case in point. Sellers who declare sales have had to bring tax payments in cash every month to a guarded, bulletproof site in Salem, the state capital, no matter the distance they must travel….
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:07am
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      Why don’t they pay in bitcoin.
      
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      October 16, 2018 11:39am
    - Harkman
      
      Howitis not picking a fight but be careful basing things on Angus Maddison, it is backward looking based on erroneous base year inputs and in the case of NZ, false time series.
      
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      October 16, 2018 1:08pm
  - waikatosinger
    
    One of Scott Adam’s close relatives recently died of a Fentanyl overdose, which is probably why this seems like a big issue to him.
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:51am
Poppa

Yesterday I said I would measure the Ross issue by what Mrs P had to say last night on the issue, or if she even brought it up.

Nothing. So my thinking is, the average punter who has no real interest in politics will not care a toss about the issue.

It is sometimes difficult for those of us interested in politics to understand, but most people just get on with their lives & don’t care a stuff until election time
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October 16, 2018 8:23am
- lifesgood
  
  You are right but that also means they ignore or are unaware of the constant lies and cock ups from the col. At election time, once again, they’ll fall for the generational change/I’ve got a baby bullshit. Very worrying.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:33am
- brett68
  
  You’re absolutely correct.
  
  Politics is mostly toxic and negative to the extreme, vast majority of people don’t want that in their lives and try and block it out.
  
  Nine weeks before an election people will grudgingly take an interest in what’s going on politically other than that they don’t want to know about it.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:40am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Why don’t you tell her?
  
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  October 16, 2018 11:54am
oldpark

Two rogues don’t make it right ,or does it. take two cases in point. We have Jami-Lee Ross Putting the boot into Simon Bridges and revealing his soft under-belly as a leader, and perhaps in the long term making sure the Nation of NZ will be better off with a more friendly and acceptable National Party Leader for its many voters,than Simon Bridges.
Take the other Rogue a guy called Winston Peters who was desperate for votes in the 2017 Election. Tax cuts were legislated for by National Government to become effective on April 1 2018. Peters voted for the Legislation . He got many many votes from old age pensioners many on fixed income. Then believe it or not Peters vetoed the tax cuts when he found he had got just enough votes to give him the baubles of Power.
Never mind him being a Rogue and putting the boot into his Old Age Pensioners on fixed incomes he turned Renegade, enabling the far left Lunatic Green Party and a well known Commie PM called Ardern to help him onto the NZs Treasury benches,perhaps making NZ the Socialist Republic of the South Pacific.
Surely that type of Rogue and his actions are more dangerous for the good Ship NZ than anything that Jami-Lee Ross can dream up, when after all he wants is a new Leader for National Party to lead his Party back onto the Treasury Benches in 2020.,
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October 16, 2018 8:23am
- waikatosinger
  
  Bridges pulled the dagger out of his back, turned around, and staked JLR through the heart with it. I wouldn’t call that soft. Compare that to Jacinda who wouldn’t know which end of the dagger goes where.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:03am
  - brett68
    
    Jacinda would be too scared to pick up a pair of rounded off scissors.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:20am
  - Maxx
    
    She’s more likely to (in an effort to distract) stab some random passerby who is a productive member of society.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:22am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    That is true, but Clare at least has been loyal so far.
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:56am
waikatogirl

Michelle Boag says she has been speaking to NP Caucus members, who are all angry with JLR. She said JLR is a young man who has time to build a life for himself outside of Parliament.
Time to get your CV up to date Jamie.
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October 16, 2018 8:25am
- lifesgood
  
  If caucus don’t vote to get rid I’ll be disgusted. SFNS equates to stupidity…seems to every time. A grown man called Jami-Lee!!!
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:35am
kowtow

The justice system does not need to change, criminals need to stop breaking the law, simple.

‘The Chief District Court Judge has called for an overhaul of the justice system, to avoid perpetuating the cycle of disadvantage, particularly for Maori.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/justice-system-needs-change-chief-judge
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October 16, 2018 8:33am
- DigNap15
  
  What does he mean by overhaul.
  Its like when politicians say there needs to be reform?
  What does that mean.
  
  Yes there needs to be an overhaul of the justice system.
  Penalties need to be hardened up as they do not deter enough people.
  Judges need to follow the law
  More prisons need to be built to keep us safe
  
  But the best things long term would be
  1) Stop the DPB feral breeding program
  2) Outlaw criminal gangs and arrest
  anyone still in them after a few months.
  3) Maori leaders to advise their people to improve their performance, education and work ethic.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:39am
- DigNap15
  
  That lady needs to be sacked.
  She is asking for apartheid.
  Placing criminals with Maori whanau, iwi etc, what a joke.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:42am
- Jazzby
  
  The poor woman is deluded: the surest way to destroy a nation is to introduce partiality into the judicial system – whether that be on the basis of race, culture, or religion, for example.
  If she wants to bring about cultural change so that Maori offend less often, then this must be done through education; but, of course, this depends on whether or not people want to learn.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:54am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  ‘“We know that a child with a parent in prison is 10 times more likely to end up in prison,” she said.’
  
  Is that ‘10 times more likely’ because the parent is in prison, or because the child comes from a family background where criminality is accepted? I don’t know, but if the latter as I suspect, the whanau might not be a solution.
  
  Perhaps some KB readers with much better knowledge than I have could comment on this and provide some informative online links.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:07am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Sounds like we need long term contraception for young offenders. Vasectomies that can only be reversed if you don’t get up to bad shit for 5years.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:17am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Fatherlessness is statisticaly the most dangerous thing you can do to a child. It is government and a social science policy to cliam the majical effects of motherhood, and bias our behaviours towards it.
    
    Jurisdictions that put all the prison rehabilitation effort into parenting skills, and supporting the father child relationship have drastically lower reoffending rates. The bonus improvement in the children’s lives due to less fatherlessness is equally important.
    
    One thing you will find little info on is the effectiveness of the indoctrination courses often forced on men. Especially those used in bribery for parole etc. Attachment, and responsibility are important controls to male behavours. Removing those things and endless courses telling them they are bad has the opposite effect.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:46am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Is that the same for more and non Maori with a parent incarcerated?
    
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    October 16, 2018 12:01pm
Paulus

Not sure who in New Zealand, except the Labour Party, would ever give Ross a job – even toilet cleaning – an honourable job of which he is not worthy.
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October 16, 2018 8:34am
- MCos
  
  The Nats thought he was marvellous until this year.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:00am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The Labour caucus still thinks Clare Curran is marvellous, and as for Labour’s Maori caucus and its love affair with Meka Whaitiri…
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:31am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And?
    
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    October 16, 2018 12:02pm
Left Right and Centre

Farkin snowflakes and SJWs and transgender twats

Here’s a real victim of injustice in the world . . . Brian Banks
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October 16, 2018 8:36am
lastmanstanding

I fear the Nats are starting to resemble Labour post the 2008 election.

A weak leader
A party riven by divisions.
Unable to land hits on the Government even though in these days the targets are painted on the Government Ministers foreheads
Unable to articulate alternatives to Government policy.

Unless the Nats get their collective shit together find a strong leader who can unite the party and take the fight to the Government we are doomed to at least another term of the COL including the draconian impact of the Tax Working Groups recommendations that will impose significant cost and take away large amounts of wealth from many readers of KB.
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October 16, 2018 8:36am
- VicParking
  
  Staff meeting at Fraser house…off you go
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:51am
- waikatosinger
  
  Unable to land hits on the Government
  
  WTF?
  
  The only problem National has with landing hits is that they are running out of people to land hits on. They’ve pounded the government so hard that they are all cowering behind the government front benches.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:25am
- Maxx
  
  National hasa always had divi ons within the party – impossible not to. However, they have usually been kept in house. By leaking and then flaming in public shows that JLR is the weakest member of the pack. A leader will support until it threatens the existence of the pack. We’ll see today if there is a leader…
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:26am
Keeping Stock

Lizzie Marvelly was aghast last week that men were daring to call Jacinda Ardern “Cindy”. Words like “offensive” and “misogynistic” were used.

So check out this tweet from Ms Marvelly yesterday:

Lizzie Marvelly
‏
@LizzieMarvelly

How to turn a gnarly situation into an epic self-own. Are journos camped outside Crusher’s office yet?

Pardon me Ms Marvelly, but your hypocrisy is showing…
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October 16, 2018 8:40am
- DigNap15
  
  How true!
  To me calling Ardern Cindy is being too nice to her.
  Horseface is a bit too much.
  Taxinda is a also too chatty.
  Its Ardern
  Ardeen
  Polite but gets the point across.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:44am
  - igm
    
    I would call it Crockery — no other description befitting.
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:50am
  - DigNap15
    
    Sorry about the typo (Ardeen) I meant of course, Ardern, Ardern, Ardern
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:08am
  - freethinker
    
    I rather like, The Gob or perhaps Gobshite to reflect what comes out of hers.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:30am
- Gravelroad
  
  Lizzie Marvelly is a self serving hypocrite of no consequence to the world outside of central Auckland.
  Forget about her.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:58am
  - DigNap15
    
    We can’t forget about her, she keeps getting articles published.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:09am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Don’t read them.
      Same as with the guy (sorry, can’t remember his name) who writes as a born again Māori on Mondays.
      Commenters on here often react to what he says – which is exactly what he and his Stuff masters want to happen to further their agenda of racial and community divisiveness.
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:50am
      - DigNap15
        
        Joel Maxwell ?
        
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        October 16, 2018 9:54am
      - Jack5
        
        Gravelroad, but does that crap help with subscriptions?
        
        Perhaps “Stuff” has given up on paid subscriptions.
        
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        October 16, 2018 1:56pm
- igm
  
  Just another lefty leech!
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:18am
- Fletch
  
  Marvelly is becoming the Alyssa Milano of NZ…
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:34am
- graham
  
  Lizzie Marvelly was aghast last week that men were daring to call Jacinda Ardern “Cindy”. Words like “offensive” and “misogynistic” were used.
  
  Wonder what she’d say about my new favourite term for referring to the CoL …
  
  “Cindy’s kindy”
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:37am
- graham
  
  Lizzie Marvelly.
  
  Aghast that men call Jacinda Ardern “Cindy”.
  
  Given name is “Elizabeth”.
  
  Calls herself “Lizzie”.
  
  *sigh*
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:39am
- MCos
  
  Interesting that a whole lot of anonymous people should be discussing this topic.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:07am
  - Jack5
    
    Including “MCos”.
    
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    October 16, 2018 1:54pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Does Judith object to Crusher though? I wouldn’t if I was her.
  
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  October 16, 2018 12:04pm
waikatogirl

Air NZ have announced they are partnering with innovators Zephyr Air Works to bring to you ‘autonomous air taxis’ to beat the congestion in Auckland. There is no date given for public take-off for this air taxi, a cross between a small plane/drone type liftoff.
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October 16, 2018 8:41am
- VicParking
  
  KiwiFly. First plane will be named BlueBottle.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Woohoo. Here comes the future!
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:19am
igm

So this where taxpayers’ hard earned monies are wasted by universities:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/107846242/mumtobe-pens-a-winning-lullaby-for-the-prime-minister
Enough to make one chuck up!
Another reason to stop supporting any company advertising with Fairfax.
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October 16, 2018 8:45am
- waikatosinger
  
  Massey.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:26am
  - igm
    
    Unfortunately, can’t hang this on Massey, it was Vic.
    The songwriter is a prospective mother, and unlike the unelected PM, she is married with a real husband. Bet he works and sustains the family as well.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:37am
Tauhei Notts

I reckon that if Colin Craig got himself a designer suntan he could pass himself off as Simon Bridges.
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October 16, 2018 8:49am
- VicParking
  
  If Colin Craig drunk a glass of Olive Oil he would pass Simon Bridges.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:58am
- Keeping Stock
  
  A mate of mine posted the following on Twitter yesterday – “On a scale of one to Colin Craig, where does Jami-Lee Ross rate?”. My response was Colin Craig on steroids.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:05am
  - kowtow
    
    Ah but CC is a rich white male Christian conservative and that makes him a legitimate target for a whole host of bigots.
    
    We’re not going to see the same media sneering witch hunt against JLR in this case.
    
    The media will use this to attack Bridges.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:31am
    - stephieboy
      
      kowtow, you must know that Craig was the architect of his own bad, bad, bad house of cards that did not make the screen.
      
      Be useful for a change and revive his old party’s fortunes by doing a mouth to mouth on New Conservatives.
      
      Puff, puff, puff…
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:39am
      - kowtow
        
        At least he likes mature girls, unlike the “prophet”.
        
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        October 16, 2018 9:48am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Thankfully we’ve so far been spared Jami-Lee love poems. So still a ways to go on the Colin Craig scale.
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:11am
Left Right and Centre

One more . . .
Tell me what is so jaw-dropping about this interview of four tent wearing fat acceptance women ? (it’s never men eh)

Yes that’s right – how did they all go ten minutes without shoving something in their mouth ?
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October 16, 2018 8:55am
Dave Mann

Jami-Lee Ross.

The first time I heard this name some months ago I wondered what kind of idiots would name a baby boy after Tony Curtis’ daughter. Then I thought he must be some sort of transgender dancer or cabaret freak.

When I found out that he is a National Party MP it just blew my mind. Stupid Name Syndrome waiting to explode.

I was right, it seems.

But how then do I explain this dribbly Bridges character’s rise to the leadership of the once great National Party?

Life is full of unexplained mysteries. Oh the rich tapestry….
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October 16, 2018 8:55am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  There were some issues with Jami-Lee’s parents (who named him). That’s why he was brought up by his grandmother.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:34am
Hugh Pavletich

… Dysfunctionally governed United States metros urban planners shutting down the residential development sector …

… Incompetent local governance and urban planning effectively BANNING the construction of affordable housing …

UNITED STATES: Housing Market Is Raising Serious Red Flags – Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-10-15/housing-prices-may-have-entered-a-cyclical-downturn

… extract …

… There’s demand for homes, but prices are increasingly out of reach, resulting in a decline in the number of homes sold. This helps explain why, according to the University of Michigan’s monthly consumer sentiment survey, home buying attitudes recently fell to their worst reading since the end of 2008. A downturn in the growth of home prices is unwelcome news for home builders, as growth in total homes sold has actually turned lower and is back in negative territory. To add salt to the wound, residential building cost growth has ramped up to one of its highest readings on record, according to our calculations.

Higher steel tariffs, the dearth of available lots in some cities, and delays in securing building permits have all contributed to rising building costs. And the especially tight construction labor market – in which the jobless rate is near a half-century low – is also weighing on home building costs by boosting construction sector wage growth, which has been outpacing overall average hourly earnings growth since mid-2017. This is one of the few industries where the Phillips curve works, with the falling unemployment rate translating to faster wage increases. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 16, 2018 8:57am
- VicParking
  
  US. Steel reopened their facility in Illinois. The move will not only create 800 jobs at his company, but additional jobs throughout the community.
  Steel company JSW USA to add 1,000 new jobs: CEO. The steel company will invest $1 billion in Ohio and Texas facilities
  A new $1.5 billion aluminum rolling mill will soon be built.
  Looks all doom and gloom to me to……..
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:04am
- waikatosinger
  
  The US is diverse and there are great differences between states in housing costs and things like how easy it is to get permission to build. This article does not mention any of this. It simply puts up some aggregate figures for the whole US and makes some vague pronouncements. Without comparing what is happening in different states it simply isn’t looking deep enough to see what is really going on.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:12am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    September reports …
    
    It Can Cost $750,000 to Build an Affordable Housing Unit in California. Here’s Why. – Real Time Economics – WSJ
    … behind paywall …
    
    https://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2018/09/21/it-can-cost-750000-to-build-an-affordable-housing-unit-in-california-heres-why/
    
    A new government report highlights cost disparities among cities and states.
    
    A single unit of housing for a low-income family can cost nearly $750,000 to build in California, according to a government report that provides new details on the cost to taxpayers of building affordable housing in states with high land prices and heavy land-use regulations. A new report from the Government Accountability Office … read more via hyperlink above …
    .
    .
    Cost and Abuse Problems in Low-Income Housing | Cato @ Liberty
    
    https://www.cato.org/blog/cost-abuse-problems-low-income-housing
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    .
    Low Income Housing Tax Credit … U.S. Government Accounting Office
    
    https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-18-637
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:31am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      … August reports …
      
      Ben Carson Calls Out Zoning Regulations for Driving Up Housing Costs – Hit & Run : Reason.com
      
      https://reason.com/blog/2018/08/14/ben-carson-calls-out-zoning-regulations
      
      Ben Carson, the secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), wants to pare back Obama-era housing regulations that he says do not do enough to address the real driver of housing costs: zoning regulations.
      
      On Monday, Carson announced that he was looking to revise the 2015 Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) rule, which sought to combat housing segregation by requiring local governments to perform extensive (and expensive) reviews on how concentrated their neighborhoods were along class and racial lines, and then to develop action plans to create more “balanced and integrated living patterns.” Local governments that failed to fulfill either requirement would be cut off from a number of federal housing grant programs. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      Secretary Carson Gets Housing Affordability Right | Cato @ Liberty
      
      https://www.cato.org/blog/secretary-carson-gets-housing-affordability-right
      
      By Vanessa Brown Calder
      
      Something promising is happening at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Recent New York Times and Wall Street Journal articles suggest Secretary Ben Carson and his team are impressing on policymaker’s minds that 1) local policymakers have created housing affordability problems and 2) local policymakers can solve those problems. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:44am
Sofia

A $ 5.5 billion surplus is 36.6 times the annual take of the Auckland regional fuel tax ($150 million)
That is over three and a half decades of Auckland regional fuel tax.

Or the equivalent of having an Auckland fuel tax of at least $3.66 a litre rather than 10 cents for a year. Depending on whether the original $150m estimate included fucking GST or not.

And the reality is: they have already taken it.

Bother! – as I sit on the loo in the morning, I must really think of things other than politics.
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October 16, 2018 9:04am
- VicParking
  
  Bear down, it will all go away
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:06am
Happychappy

Out of all columns that have penned since JLR was named as the probable leaker I would have to say John Armstrong’s piece is well thought out and the best Journalism that any media have put out since the Coalition were installed as our Government. For all the stick I give TV One about their bias Journalists I applaud this piece of facts and truth.
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October 16, 2018 9:18am
Manolo

Pocahontas has cheek!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277475/Elizabeth-Warrens-DNA-shows-DOES-distant-American-Indian-ancestor.html
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October 16, 2018 9:19am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, a signal for you to get a DNA test to check out possible Dutch heritage?
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:22am
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, she has no shame. Having somewhere from 0.1 – 3% Native American blood does not make you a Native American, and most tribes have admitted that it takes more blood than that to be an authentic member. And this woman declared herself as Native American to make her a preferred candidate for teaching jobs at Harvard etc…
  
  Her “told you so” to Trump rings hollow.
  
  If I have a glass of drink that is mostly water with 1.56% orange juice, can it really be called a glass of orange juice?
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:43am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Ahem , the test shows 1/1024 of Colombian, Peruvian or Mexican heritage.
    The tester is justfying it by saying that those regions were the origin of Native Americans….
    I don’t think he even compared her DNA to actual DNA from Cherokee!
    The rules to qualify as a Cherokee are having direct Ancestors documented on the Dawes List and once you go past 1/32 you’re out.
    So, yeah nah , not a NA
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:51am
    - Fletch
      
      And yet, she is pushing the test as some kind of victory, and asking Trump to keep his word to her that if she took the test and it proved she was NA that he’d donate money to the National Indigenous Women’s Resource Center. As I said, she has no shame.
      
      https://twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/1051820933982359553
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:59am
      - MCos
        
        Maybe she’s only 3% Native America.
        That’s 3% more than Trump’s claim Obama was born in Kenya!
        
        Ead 2, or whatever he calls himself, would be mortified if he discovered he was 3% Jewish.
        
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        October 16, 2018 10:22am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Sounds like a program that New Zealand should adopt for the definition of “Maori.”
      
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  - Fletch
    
    Now the percentage is even lower, due to a “math error” by the Boston Globe –
    
    Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 6th to 10th generation relative. The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.
    
    This puts Warren between .09 and 1.6 percent Native American, not the upper limit of 3%.
    
    according to the New York Times, “researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”
    
    In other words, as Breitbart’s Joel Pollak summarizes, this “falls within Warren’s reported range, and suggests she may be no more Native American than the average white American.
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/10/15/boston-globe-botches-math-correction-on-elizabeth-warren-dna-test-story/
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:12am
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    Depends if you ascribe to homeopathic theory. If you dilute it further to 0.0000000156%, it’ll be even more effectively “orange juice”.
    
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    October 16, 2018 3:42pm
- CharlieBrown
  
  Wow – the MSM bias fully on show here. She has the same Native American ancestry of the average white american. And they won’t mention this. She has to go back six to ten generations to find a trace of Native-American ancestry. That means she is at best (and least likely) up to 3% Native American, at worst she is 0.001% Native American. To put that in perspective, Nazi’s required you to have at least one jewish grand parent to be classified as a jew.
  
  Trump should pay Warren 1/1024 of $1 million.
  
  At least the MSM are discrediting themselves so much that even the more casual observers can see how pathetic they are.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:59am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I am related to the white husband of Pocahontas. ;).
    
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    October 16, 2018 12:12pm
Manolo

Indeed, stephieboy. Perhaps some ancestor of mine came from the Netherlands and had children in Indonesia. It’s a strong possibility.

I’ll heed your wise advice.
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October 16, 2018 9:41am
kowtow

Interesting times in Germany.

Bavaria , richest state in the land and the voters are getting very polarised.

AfD and Greens have both done very well and each may be said to represent the polar opposites on the migration front and yet ………

‘ A woman was held hostage by a man for two hours at a pharmacy in Cologne’s central railway station on Monday. Police stormed the pharmacy and ended the situation around two hours later, shooting the individual several times.’

https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-free-hostage-at-cologne-train-station/a-45893296

A Syrian.

And Syrian.

‘Levy, the managing director of a Hamburg creative agency, intervened when a Syrian man in Berlin used a leather belt to attack two young men wearing kippas, the traditional Jewish head covering.’

https://www.dw.com/en/top-accolade-for-woman-who-broke-up-anti-semitic-attack/a-45901261

Thanks nothing Angela.
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October 16, 2018 9:43am
- Manolo
  
  Those animals need to be contained.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:12am
- MCos
  
  Further to that.
  The AfD vote at 10% was well less than expected. They had polled up to 16%.
  The Greens vote was 17%. Almost double the previous election.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:28am
  - SimpleJack
    
    When are people going to start realising that votes are being falsified? They were falsified in Sweden. They’re being falsified in Germany. They were falsified in Ireland as far back as 1990 – when Mary Robinson won an election after being down 18 points in an exit poll.
    
    Tony Blair never won a fair election – have a look at when England combined the counting of ‘postal votes’ and general roll votes. Postal votes always seem to swing things.
    
    In Europe, if the votes’ wrong they just change the votes or hold more votes until they get the outcome they want.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:55am
Fletch

Another one –

A biological male claiming to be a transgender woman, won the 2018 UCI Masters Track Cycling World Championships in Los Angeles over the weekend.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/10/15/biological-man-wins-womens-cycling-championship/

These people are ruining women’s sports.
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October 16, 2018 9:56am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Men are about 10% faster in pretty much every running event and about 30% stronger at the same weight in weightlifting. Womens sport is done for if ex-men are allowed to compete.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:05am
  - Harkman
    
    In Rio every medalist in the women’s 800m were men. Feminists are just Marxists using the world Feminist as a guise.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:23am
- Longknives
  
  I’m not dumb, but I can’t understand why she walks like a woman and talks like a man?..
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:44am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    Well, I’m not the world’s most physical guy
    But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine…
    
    🙂
    
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    October 16, 2018 12:17pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    That sounds a bit Kinky.
    
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    October 16, 2018 5:54pm
Hugh Pavletich

Australia’s housing boom is not heading for a soft landing. How did we get here? | Greg Jericho | Business | The Guardian

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/unsold-properties-pile/#comment-3204433

Australia’s housing boom is not heading for a soft landing. How did we get here? | Greg Jericho | Business | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/oct/16/australias-housing-boom-is-not-heading-for-a-soft-landing-how-did-we-get-here

The hoped-for soft landing of the Australian housing market took another hit with the release of the latest housing finance data showing the biggest annual fall in housing finance commitments for nearly eight years. Both the Reserve Bank and the International Monetary Fund have recently pointed to concerns about the level of household debt as we reach a decade since the global financial crisis. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 16, 2018 10:21am
- Harkman
  
  The NZ stock market is way, way overpriced. 1931, 1987, and 2007 were years Democrats took over the House. Watch out next year.
  
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  October 16, 2018 10:26am
SimpleJack

https://spectator.org/the-day-of-reckoning-for-monsignor-rossi-and-the-hierarchy/

This is amazing. The openly and extremely active homosexual character of the senior leadership of the catholic church all the way up to the Pope Francine is being discussed absolutely openly.

There are no pseudonyms, or aliases. The American Spectator isn’t some random blog. People are putting names to these statements. They’re openly naming pedophile homosexual ‘current’ catholic leaders like Cardinal McCarrick, Monsigneur Walter Rossi, Bishop Michael Bransfield, Priest Matthew Reidlinger – lots of other names of ‘current’ catholic leadership in the United States.

It’s actually a piss-take at this stage.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/source-vatican-cardinal-was-at-drug-fueled-homosexual-party-and-pope-knows

Cardinal Coccopalmerio (he even has a drag name) was ‘presiding’ over a gay orgy in the apartments of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and Ecclesia Dea (the body that oversees Latin mass(!)). ‘Presiding’ is a ceremonial word. That suggests a ritualistic property to the orgy.

Anti-pope Francine and his evil coterie of child abusing homosexuals need to be removed from office. Every single one of their adherents also needs to be removed.

It is absolutely fascinating that despite the mass media coverage on church abuses, the MSM never ever touches the obvious truth angle – the Church is corrupted because it’s leaders are seemingly almost ALL child abusing homosexuals.

They’re even trying to make people venerate communist homosexuals as Saints now as well:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2018/10/14/sodomite-communist-paul-vi-is-a-saint-as-much-as-bergoglio-is-the-pope-not-even-a-little/

Why does it matter? Because almost all of the genuine child abuse has been performed by practising homosexuals – and everyone has to pretend otherwise.
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October 16, 2018 10:50am
- howitis
  
  Oh Noes
  It wasn’t their fault !
  The Devil made them do it
  Its True
  The pope guy said so
  and he is infallible
  https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/10/08/world/europe/08reuters-pope-devil.html
  
  ‘In fact, the pope is so convinced that Satan is to blame for the sexual abuse crisis and deep divisions racking the Church that he has asked Catholics around the world to recite a special prayer every day in October to try to beat him back’.
  
  Not the only beating going on !
  
  See says the Australian/US/British/NZ/Spanish priest/bishop/cardinal pedo:-
  “I told you it was not my fault !! ”
  
  The religious equivalent of the dog ate my homework; my little sister ripped it up.
  Just don’t take responsibility for your own actions.
  Remain gutless and don’t solve the matter.
  
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  October 16, 2018 2:57pm
SimpleJack

The English are done. Stick a fork in them. If it wasn’t for the children who suffer from their stupidity one would forget that country even exists.

Passengers unite in a moment of heroism to stop a convicted gang raper and terrorist from being deported.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/7489322/somalian-deportation-stopped-heathrow-gang-rapist/
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October 16, 2018 11:02am
SimpleJack

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/12/bbc-will-have-gay-characters-shows-combat-heteronormative-culture/

The BBC is going to have ‘incidental’ homosexuality in all it’s children’s shows to ‘combat heteronormativity’. So in every show they have, there will be a plethora of characters, themes, and events which are gay, but not related to the primary narrative and viewpoints.

Children’s television is going to become like children’s maths, and children’s history, and children’s science – all the non-sexual oriented subjects will simply be sexualised. ‘If Muhammad’s Dad has three dildos, and his other Dad Estefan has five, how many dildo’s will their boyfriend Gonzales have when he comes over?’

Straight staff will have to provide notification they are straight. Look at how insane it is. Staff at the BBC are going to be required to wear fucking ‘straight ally pins’. So first you will be forced to ‘out’ yourself as non-gay. Then to work at the company, you will have to wear a pin saying you’re an ally.

But it’s okay, because intersectionality will claim everyone – now the concern is that as well as being ‘heteronormative’ the BBC is also ‘phallohomosexualcentric’ – dominated by gay men. Man, even if you’re just a humble simple gay male you can’t win.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/16/half-young-not-heterosexual/

And apparently only 51% of 18-24 year olds in Britain consider themselves ‘straight’. Of course, that’s hilariously nonsensical. That’s like Winston Smith saying he loves doing 5am Hamstring stretches in front of his room-screen. But it’s taken as gospel.

Not it’s not a weird fixation – these are fairly salient things for anyone who cares about anything.

If it wasn’t for the kids being wrecked over there one would be tempted to simply forget Britain ever existed. It’s a rancid clown country now. Even Islam is more dignified then this. The one good thing about the inevitable imposition of Islam as the national religion of England is that Sharia will be taken seriously. All of this public stuff will at least end, very very violently.
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October 16, 2018 11:20am
- Jack5
  
  The BBC shouldn’t mean a helluva lot to us in NZ now.
  
  I mentally switch off when NZ’s State TV news brings in some toff-tongued BBC reporter to pronounce “expert” views on United States politics, or on Wall Street, or on Silicon Valley, or some other aspect of technology.
  
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  October 16, 2018 11:34am
  - SimpleJack
    
    Yeah.
    
    Imagine dwelling in a world where you watch TV and TV determines your consciousness.
    
    Britain is simply a vile hellhole.
    
    Imagine living in a world free from leftists. Imagine living in a nation of your own.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZcHUhQNXo
    
    I remember when I was pozzed enough to not like Braveheart anymore, because John Leibovitz (John Stewart) was mocking Mel Gibson.
    
    That was a looooong time ago.
    
    Would happily join Mel with a Claymore and a Hollywood list.
    
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    October 16, 2018 11:39am
- Inandout
  
  How would modern day BBC cope with ‘Five Go Mad In Dorset’, and ‘the film’s climax reveals that the group’s uncle Quentin is a “screaming homosexual” who faked his own kidnapping in order to abandon his “nymphomaniac” wife, Aunt Fanny?’
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRQtV6tNOEE
  
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  October 16, 2018 11:47am
  - Longknives
    
    Mate I still don’t think that even after all these years the Left realise that the legendary Rik Mayall was actually taking the piss out of them in The Young Ones!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul3U_J37YCc
    
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    October 16, 2018 12:30pm
    - cha
      
      Rik’s wannabe anarchist people’s poet character who failed miserably to disguise his true self, a wimpy suburban Cliff Richard fan, was taking the piss out of the anarchist punks of the day who underneath the rebellious bad attitudes, were actually suburban bank Johnnies with a plum in their mouths.
      
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      October 16, 2018 12:44pm
      - Longknives
        
        Viv was the Punk Cha.
        Rik was the Sociology Student who was a Lefty ‘Student Activist’ type.
        Totally taking the piss out of Left Wing losers…(Check out his early Stand up before they did the Young Ones)
        
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        October 16, 2018 1:25pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Great series. Wwric wwas the powitically awware wone.
        
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        October 16, 2018 3:54pm
- I've been to Mecca and you have not!
  
  Marshallah – God has willed this.
  
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  October 16, 2018 12:16pm
- kowtow
  
  Buggery Broadcasting Corporation
  
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  October 16, 2018 12:42pm
dcrown

US deficit explodes. Meanwhile the dems refuse to agree to commonsense spending cuts.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/411493-deficit-hits-six-year-high-of-779-billion-treasury
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October 16, 2018 11:23am
krazykiwi

Inflation baby, inflation. Highest in last 12 months, and a huge quarterly jump.

Socialists love inflation. Creates more poverty which they can exploit. Well done Ardern
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October 16, 2018 12:22pm
krazykiwi

Good paper from Prof Richard Linzen, summarised thus:

So there you have it. An implausible conjecture backed by false evidence and repeated incessantly has become politically correct ‘knowledge,’ and is used to promote the overturn of industrial civilization.

What we will be leaving our grandchildren is not a planet damaged by industrial progress, but a record of unfathomable silliness as well as a landscape degraded by rusting wind farms and decaying solar panel arrays.

False claims about 97% agreement will not spare us, but the willingness of scientists to keep mum is likely to much reduce trust in and support for science.

Perhaps this won’t be such a bad thing after all – certainly as concerns ‘official’ science.
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October 16, 2018 1:22pm
- Doctor Who
  
  https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06032017/climate-change-denial-scientists-richard-lindzen-mit-donald-trump
  
  After MIT’s climate researchers and faculty found out, they wrote their own open letter to the president, setting the record straight.
  
  “As [Lindzen’s] colleagues at MIT in the Program in Atmospheres, Oceans and Climate, all of whom are actively involved in understanding climate, we write to make it clear that this is not a view shared by us, or by the overwhelming majority of other scientists who have devoted their professional lives to careful study of climate science,” said the March 2 letter, signed by 22 current and retired MIT professors.
  
  The MIT staff addressed specific inaccuracies in Lindzen’s letter, including his assertion that “carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.”
  
  “The risks to the Earth system associated with increasing levels of carbon dioxide are almost universally agreed by climate scientists to be real ones,” they wrote. “These include, but are not limited to, sea level rise, ocean acidification, and increases in extreme flooding and droughts, all with serious consequences for mankind.”
  
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  October 16, 2018 2:32pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    No, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. Far from it. Our mountains are maid from the stuff, and it’s essential for life itself.
    
    No, said risks are not almost universally agreed. Far from it.
    
    No, there are no increases in extreme weather. Quite the opposite in fact.
    
    No, there is no ‘ocean acidification’. According to Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace, long one of ocean acidification theory’s fiercest critics, the term is ‘just short of propaganda’
    
    Climate Change™ is a political construct. It sure as hell has never been a scientific one.
    
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    October 16, 2018 3:33pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Ah, ‘made’. What was I thinking 🙂
      
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      October 16, 2018 3:55pm
All_on_Red

Stormy Daniels makes history. First time a prostitute ever paid a politician.
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October 16, 2018 2:06pm
- howitis
  
  Some great comments on DM:-
  
  -Elizabeth Warren now Stormy Daniels and it’s only Monday.
  -Looks like the left hitched their wagon to the wrong HOrse
  -The Storm is Over!!
  -This isn’t the first time Stormy has found herself in a hole.
  -Gosh Avenatti is batting zero with these “clients” of his. Heartbroken, or not
  -She is going to have to strip till she is ninety years of age to pay for the law suits and the legal fees …thats a lot of dollar bills to be stuffed in her top!!!
  -Get your dancing shoes on baby…I’m betting that you’re going to be doing a lot more time on the Pole! This is a good order from the Court to show everyone that this line of argument has been completely shut down. MAGA
  
  hahaha
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6279815/Judge-tosses-Stormy-Daniels-defamation-suit-against-Trump.html#comments
  
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  October 16, 2018 3:25pm
Jack5

Whoops! Sorry! Reading the thread from bottom up and wasn’t aware Pocohontas had been covered above!

American Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren, dubbed Pocohontas by Donald Trump because of her claims to being partly of North American Indian descent, has had a DNA test by an academic.

He says his finding indicates Warren could be between one-thirty-second and one-1032th North American Indian.

Here’s how Slate reports the test:

According to the executive summary of the test, which Warren posted online, Warren has at least 95 per cent European ancestry. “We find strong evidence that a DNA sample of primarily European descent also contains Native American ancestry from an ancestor in the sample’s pedigree 6-10 generations ago,” according to the summary. It’s worth noting that the test is not entirely conclusive, as inconsistencies and coincidences in genetic tests still allow room for some uncertainty when sorting out ethnic backgrounds.

DNA genealogy tests tend to give weak evidence in establishing remote racial ancestry. The source linked to below describes them as “genetic astrology”.

Warren has no documentation of her claimed Indian ancestry, and a genealogy expert of the Cherokee tribe has dismissed her claim to have links to it.

Will Maori take up DNA testing to establish tribal background? I doubt it.

First, DNA testing likely conflicts with some Maori beliefs, such as those that seem to mitigate against organ donation.

Second, Maori generally have adopted the Confederacy’s “one drop” rule. “One drop” of Maori ancestry and you are Maori. With the high rate of intermarriage in NZ, in four or five generations virtually all New Zealanders will be part-Maori. Tests won’t be needed.

DNA ancestry testing:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9912822/DNA-ancestry-tests-branded-meaningless.html
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October 16, 2018 2:44pm
- Inandout
  
  Bloody hell, millions of Americans probably have a bit of wigwam in their lineage, but many would like to keep it secret. Ross and Bridges skite about the tar brush when it suits them.
  
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  October 16, 2018 3:30pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Nailing a Porsche badge to the back of a Toyota Enima doesn’t make it a Porsche. Although our identity grouping progressives probably don’t see it that way.
  
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  October 16, 2018 4:02pm
  - nasska
    
    Craig Bauld who was a secondary school principal, a Gisborne ward councillor & a Gisborne Herald contributor had this to say about Maori blood:
    
    ….”       Fancy knowing that you have criminal tendencies that can only  be cured by massive doses of self-esteem and taxpayer funding, that  you are not capable of learning English like most of the world and  this is just because your great-granny had it away in the bushes with  the cute young Maori bloke over the road about a century ago?
    
            Powerful stuff that Maori blood, three or four per cent of it  running through your veins is enough to change you from being a normal  person into some sort of deprived halfwit.
    
            Three or four per cent of it and you are instantaneously  transformed into a deeply cultural and spiritual person who is easily  offended by people taking the mickey out of you.
    
            Maori blood is the most powerful blood in the world, probably  the most powerful substance known to man.”…..
    
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    October 16, 2018 4:20pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    If the Toyota feels like a Porsche, it is a Porsche. Silly RP. Time to get with the feelz! ? //
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    October 16, 2018 4:25pm
noskire

Supposedly Ardern had 100’s of requests for interviews when in New York recently.
More like two: https://fyi.org.nz/request/8752/response/28504/attach/4/4085308%20DPMCOIA%20Reply%20OIA%202018%2019%200162%20Erickson%20PMs%20Interview%20Requests%20While%20attending%20United%20Nations%20General%20Assembly%20Michael%20Erickson.PDF.pdf
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October 16, 2018 2:53pm
LTA1955

The duck running the interference lines this afternoon…
I am sure this is not the speakers role in our parliamentary processes to run “lets stuff’em up” interference lines on behalf of the government to protect the snowflakes from the opposition.
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October 16, 2018 2:55pm
krazykiwi

Pocketsmith is a a Kiwi company making this bold claim:

We were founded in June 2008, and are based in the beautiful cities of Dunedin, Christchurch and Auckland, New Zealand. From here, we service a global userbase in 203 countries.

One slight problem: There are only 195 countries in the world.
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October 16, 2018 3:16pm
Jack5

NZ is headed towards a race-based legal system if the views of the Chief District Court Judge are any indication.

Giving an address in Dunedin, Judge Jan-Marie Doogue said it was up to judges, who had “a cradle-to-grave view of society’s illnesses” to be more “culturally competent”.

Here’s an extract from the Otago Daily Times report:

From next July, the Oranga Tamariki Act will explicitly include tikanga Maori concepts which must be at the heart of any decision made in respect of a child or young person.

The judge called for her colleagues on the bench in the criminal jurisdiction to take a similarly holistic approach.

When imposing a rehabilitative sentence, a court was able to specify placement with whanau, hapu, iwi or marae as a special condition, she said.

“Given the over-representation of Maori in our criminal courtrooms, it is imperative that the District Court works with hapu and iwi however it can, to assist in increasing the community’s capacity to provide supplementary alternative sentencing options,”

What are tikanga Maori concepts?

The report:

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/justice-system-needs-change-chief-judge
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October 16, 2018 3:22pm
- Jack5
  
  I’ve just looked up “tikanga tips”. Surely it’s more than these two:
  
  Speaking
  
  Avoid entering and crossing a room while someone in authority is addressing an audience. To avoid offence, either wait quietly by the door until there is a break in the dialogue or, when that is not appropriate, enter as discretely as possible. Try not to walk directly in front of the speaker or, if you can not avoid it, crouch down as you pass as a sign of respect. Why? Traditionally Maori society is very hierarchical and crossing in front of a more ‘senior’ person is considered rude.
  
  And another:
  
  Stepping
  Avoid stepping over people, even in crowded teaching spaces when you are over people trying to find a suitable seat. Ask the person to draw their legs in first, or find another route. Why? From a Maori cultural perspective, it is considered offensive for a woman to step over a man.
  
  https://www.victoria.ac.nz/maori-at-victoria/ako/teaching-resources/tikanga-tips
  
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  October 16, 2018 3:27pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Jack5:
  
  Merepeka Raukawa-Tait spoke up 11 years ago:
  
  “We talk about it being a social or community issue but [the] reality is, it is a Maori issue. Not every person living in poverty abuses their children. It’s predominantly Maori children who are being abused and killed. We need to say there are rotten Maori families out there. We all know who the rotten parents are in our families and we need to speak up. They are thugs and they are gutless to beat up on a child. Where is the mana of these families who allow this to continue? These people have abdicated all responsibility once a child has been abused. Challenge these bullies. What’s wrong with saying people are inadequate parents if they are?”
  
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  October 16, 2018 4:24pm
  - DigNap15
    
    The only way to fix it, it to identify these Maori families.
    Sterilise the woman and any men living with her.
    Then send in a good old granny (on a good wage) with good family values every few days at random, with a big All Black behind her.
    Point out everything they are doing wrong. Swearing, parties, drugs, cigarettes, etc etc
    If they keep doing these things dock their benefit by $10 a week for each offence.
    Make them learn respect, good values, work ethic, clean language, etc etc.
    If they improve add $10 a week to their benefit.
    We have to start somewhere and draw a line in the sand.
    
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    October 16, 2018 5:25pm
DigNap15

Family with 8 children can’t get a house

I’m sorry, but in today’s world who has 8 children?
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October 16, 2018 4:22pm
- waikatogirl
  
  State Housing will provide. Why take responsibility for yourself and your decisions when the State is willing to supply whatever you need?
  
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  October 16, 2018 4:30pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Agreed but I think two are the woman’s sisters that she is raising, their brothers being in jail so although I think four children is too many when you can’t provide independently, but they seem to have been good tenants with the house.
  
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  October 16, 2018 5:25pm
krazykiwi

From SMH:**

The phrase “it’s OK to be white” is widely associated with alt-right, white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements, particularly in the US.

Who cares? It is ok to be white. It is also ok to be non-white. In fact the matter is irrelevant.

What’s not ok is for lefties in the media and elsewhere to make a collection of words taboo based negative associations.

** For the record, I think Hanson is a seriously nasty piece of work, but it’s still ok for her to assert that “It’s ok to be white”.
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October 16, 2018 4:23pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Today I was talking to a Seik business owner about his new fruit and vege shop. Ethnicity did not enter into whether I conversed with him, or not. Like most Kiwis, I don’t take ethnicity into consideration before having a conversation with anyone. It is the person who interests me. If he is an arsehole then be that on him. As long as we are both contributing to life in NZ it’s ok for me to be white and it’s also okay for him to be an Indian.
  
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  October 16, 2018 4:39pm
DigNap15

I think Most Sikh’s are good people.
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October 16, 2018 5:19pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I think most people are good people.
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:31pm
  - nasska
    
    I reckon you’re largely right there but o’brother……you have to dig real deep to find it with some of them. Especially in large groups.
    
    What I do take issue with is the bleeding heart purists insistence that we mustn’t, under any circumstances discriminate against a certain group based on the previous behaviour of member of that group. I include in that races, ethnics,religion & affiliations.
    
    Discrimination, however unpalatable is a hard-wired survival mechanism.
    
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    October 16, 2018 6:49pm
    - Jack5
      
      Milky, you’re saying most Stephiestanis are good people? ?
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:50pm
- Jack5
  
  Sikhs tend to integrate into Western society fairly well, DigNap15, once you allow them to wear turbans rather than caps when they are in official uniforms. Problems with ceremonial daggers seem to be a problem only in air travel.
  
  A Sikh woman was a popular mayor of Dunedin.
  
  Sikhs have integrated well in Britain. Any problems seem to be within the Sikh community and related to castes, a curse of Indian society.
  
  http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2013/03/14/comment-british-sikhs-are-the-best-example-of-cultural-integ
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:48pm
DigNap15

I heard JLR on the radio today.
How the hell did he get selected as a National candidate?
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October 16, 2018 5:27pm
howitis

Big loss today.
Paul Allen; co-founder of Microsoft
Died at 65.
He was rather eccentric and had some off the planet ideas but a smart fella.
He had cancer early in the days of M/soft and got squeezed out.
He retained his shares.
Ballmer and Gates showed their true character at that time.

He still was very generous and has donated billions in actual money (a lot say they will do it, someday,whenever).
There is over USD 20 billion in his estate to be distributed and you can make on offer on his 414 foot yacht.
He had three battles with cancer with the first one in his 20s in the early days of Microsoft (8 years in) .
This third time he was not the victor.
He did make the most of the extended time.
Good on him.
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October 16, 2018 5:31pm
- cha
  
  Dude gave away more than $2 billion, including over half a billion dollars to map and understand the human brain and funded countless discoveries that revolutionised neurological science.
  
  RIP Paul Allen
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:09pm
- nasska
  
  …..”He had cancer early in the days of M/soft and got squeezed out”…..
  
  Probably wasn’t responsible for W10 then.
  
  I’ll take a chance & hope that he does RIP. 🙂
  
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  October 16, 2018 6:25pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Probably wasn’t responsible for W10 then.
    
    Please don’t tell me you were one of the Apple groupies who queued up to be one of the first to get their hands on a shiny new iPhone?
    
    iPhone 8: Apple fan queues up 10 days before release determined to ‘do whatever it takes’
    
    How can Queen Jacinda and Uncle Phil (Twyford) solve Auckland’s housing crisis if they can’t differentiate between Apple enthusiasts and the homeless camped out in tents on Queen Street?
    
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    October 16, 2018 6:43pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”if they can’t differentiate between Apple enthusiasts and the homeless camped out in tents on Queen Street”…..
      
      Love it! I admit to loathing W10 intensely. Windows 95, 98, XP & W7 all helped to drag me kicking & screaming into the 20th Century but I drew the line with the abortion that W10 is.
      
      Mac software is a pain in the arse & my computer considers my Android phone to be inferior & doesn’t want to associate with it. For all that if I’m going to be grossly inconvenienced by wankers I insist on choosing who’s going to do it! 🙂
      
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      October 16, 2018 6:57pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        I drew the line with the abortion that W10 is
        
        What would Redbaiter say if he knew you once lived in the hills overlooking Eketahuna with Windows 7 installed on your PC?
        
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        October 16, 2018 7:05pm
      - nasska
        
        What would Baity say? What he always did! 🙂
        
        …..“progressive, homosexual, Marxist leftist scum”…..
        
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        October 16, 2018 7:12pm
      - stigie
        
        Where have all these nutters gone, just a few of us nutters left..? //
        
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        October 16, 2018 7:47pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        I’m hoping that Dad will pop in to tell us if he uses Windows 10, or an earlier version like, say, XP or 7. It’d be good to know how life is treating him. Oh my – just think of the gossip that he could share with us if he’s in the mood!
        
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        October 16, 2018 7:55pm
      - stigie
        
        I think Dad is old school Nostra, he’s still fucking around on W7 or earlier in case he might lose all those crooked emails from a dear friend of his !~
        
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        October 16, 2018 8:03pm
      - nasska
        
        Nostra
        
        Can you remember who the clown was who teamed up with Baity on wet Saturday afternoons a bit back?
        
        Baity would make some outrageous statement & this coot would pipe up in enthusiastic support while digitally humping Baity’s leg.
        
        Wasn’t Kris K was it?
        
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        October 16, 2018 8:06pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        this comment indicates what you’re after:
        
        I was recently reading through a file copy of part of a General Debate about six years ago Dad. It was a Saturday afternoon when every man & his dog was having a go….you amongst them. KrisK was acting like Baity’s poodle humping Baity’s leg after every one of his raves. It’s amazing just how well mannered we all are now. ?
        
        Do you have that file copy so we can hone in on the thread?
        
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        October 16, 2018 8:12pm
      - stigie
        
        A classic from Dad !~
        
        Is that jerk Awww C -mon a maggot feasting on a dead carcass on your hillbilly run down farm? How do you downtic the farm?
        
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        October 16, 2018 8:18pm
      - nasska
        
        Nah. I was going on memory of reading something I’ve lost.
        
        But I wish I’d kept a file copy of a few of the exchanges from a decade ago. I fear that industrial grade nutters are an endangered species nowadays. 🙂
        
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        October 16, 2018 8:19pm
DigNap15

Yes very sad,
He was the guy who did the programming for their original traffic light control system.
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October 16, 2018 5:48pm
DigNap15

Whats with all the petrol discounts with cards and supermarket vouchers etc, and all the radio advertising.
It seems to be a waste of time. It must be costing a lot of money to advertise and administer.
Why not stop the whole lot, and just reduce the price of groceries and petrol across the board.
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October 16, 2018 5:57pm
- Tall Man
  
  Data mining.
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:09pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    The labour party do it.
    I answered one of their surveys, told them how stupid they are.
    Now I get all their party advertising.
    It’s OK I get a good laugh out of their continuing stupidity.
    
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    October 16, 2018 7:33pm
Southern Raider

While National is falling apart and not holding the CoL to account it looks like another energy disaster is approaching and Cindy will get away with it.

Just heard that wholesale electricity prices are staying high and may not come down over summer due to no gas and lake levels are very low. Effectively our energy supply is at risk.

Talk is now shifting to potential regulation of electricity prices for low income people, which just means the rest of us will pay more.
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October 16, 2018 7:04pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Don’t worry people tend to notice when they can’t buy nice things at Christmas.
  They always know where the money went and when they find out Jacinda stole it….they will be miffed.
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:35pm
  - Paulus
    
    People will still spend at Christmas this year; it will only be about February/March when the cards need to be paid.
    Then ouch !
    
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    October 17, 2018 9:41am
DJ Ward

The DNA cliam of heratage to native Americans is clearly false.

We have 46 chromosomes in 23 sets. The minimum required is 1/46 passed down through generations. You cannot have 1/64 or 1/1024, it’s impossible.

The only DNA connection would be from artic people having their DNA traveling south into Russia etc over time. An ancient ancestor may have passed on DNA that Warren has that was also passed on to native Americans. But a genuine connection is clearly not present.

If she did have Native American ancestry at least 1/46 chromosomes would have stood out blatantly.

So Approx presence of ancestor DNA by chromosomes.
Gen 1, 1/2 or 23. Gen 2, 1/4 or 11. Gen 3, 1/8 or 6. Gen 4, 1/16 or 3. Gen 5 1/32 or 1. Gen 6, 1/64 or none.

So on average you have this ratio of an ancestors DNA.
Parents potential 92 chromosomes. Has 1/2
Grandparents 184 chromosomes. Has 1/4
G Grandparents 368 chromosomes. Has 1/8
GG Grandparents 736 chromosomes. Has 1/16
GGG Grandparents 1472 chromosomes. Has 1/32
GGGG Grandparents 2944 chromosomes. Has 1/64

So at that point with the limit at 1/46 you may not in fact have any of a particular GGGG Grandparents DNA. In theory you may have no DNA relationship to a blood Great Grandparent.
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October 16, 2018 7:14pm
- sooty
  
  How does that stack up with our maori?
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:18pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    A distant relative is likely to not be a DNA relative. It is also possible that more Chromosomes from a distant relative got passed on than the average. EG your parents may pass on 1/2 but those 23 might be 18 from your fathers father but only 5 from your fathers mother.
    
    A person who says they are 1/16 Maori may be 100% not Maori and they could also genuinely have more than 1/16 Maori DNA.
    
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    October 16, 2018 7:49pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I think you need a wee lesson in Meiosis.
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:02pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You seem to be confusing Genes (alleles) with chromosomes.
      
      See if this helps:
      https://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask445
      
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      October 16, 2018 9:20pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        Thank you Maggy. I’m guessing I’m not the first on KB suffering from some knowledge causing an ignorant comment.
        
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        October 16, 2018 10:57pm
    - Paulus
      
      Maori DNA is proven, even to Peters agreement, as being from the Gao Shan Tzu Tribes still to be found today in South Western Taiwan.
      I have the total Pacific plan of the various current arrival in to New Zealand, and all Pacific aboriginal arrivals, but cannot find it in the short term.
      
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      October 17, 2018 9:46am
- rangitoto
  
  It isn’t that simple. During meiosis, genes are exchanged between chromosomes so the chromosomes in the gamete cells are not identical to the chromosomes of the progenitor.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:57pm
sooty

Australia is telling Taxcinda that if you want to have the Manus island refuges, we are going to make all Kiwis going to Aust require a visa! That’s going to stop a lot of people entering. Mind you it might stop having to spend money shipping them back, as they will never leave!
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October 16, 2018 7:16pm
- Southern Raider
  
  So average kiwis get rooted again by Cindy.
  
  4.5 million law abiding people will now need to where extra expense and time to travel to Australia so this hitch can look good at the UN
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:47pm
- lifesgood
  
  Just saw a snippet on Sky News. They were talking quite confidently about NZ taking the Manus Island fakeugees. Bloody hell…crooks, crims and mentally ill!!! I hope Winston stands by what he has stated for once. Not holding my breath!!!
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:12pm
Manolo

The Cherokees fell offended by weirdo Pocahontas:
https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/cherokee-nation-issues-statement-on-sen-elizabeth-warren-s-dna-test-results

The Cherokee Nation issued a statement Monday on Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test results.

Sen. Warren released her DNA report in response to President Donald Trump taunting her for her saying she was part Native American.

Sen. Warren released her ancestry report and it stated that “the great majority of (Warren’s) identifiable ancestry is European.” However, the report adds, “The analysis also identified 5 genetic segments as Native American in origin at high confidence.”

This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
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October 16, 2018 7:23pm
- cha
  
  I can’t believe Elizabeth Warren’s family invented a Native American backstory to get millions in no-bid government contracts.
  
  Oh wait, it was GOP House leader Kevin McCarthy’s family that scored $7 million in no-bid government contracts by lying and saying they were Cherokee.
  
  http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-na-pol-mccarthy-contracts-20181014-story.html
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:51pm
Fletch

As per Seven Sharp, now a group wants to give kids a hot lunch at school and it will cost “only” $140 million a year.

WTF? This is just getting silly now. First it was breakfast, then it was coats and shoes, now hot lunch. NZ is becoming a welfare state.
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October 16, 2018 7:24pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Couple of thoughts:
  1. What ever happened to PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY?
  2. If I have have to pay my taxes to bring up your kids, do I get a say in how that is done? (He who pays the piper calls the tune?)
  
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  October 16, 2018 7:30pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    The Labour government legislated children into their possession in 2004. There is no such thing as parents or custody. Only guardians.
    
    The government gets 100% of the say now.
    Ask a father who wants a relationship with his children what the courts think of his rights as a parent. He has none.
    
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    October 16, 2018 7:56pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Horrible but true.
      
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      October 16, 2018 8:18pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Fuck off, I’ll abuse my kids where and when I please…oops, was that still on?
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  I’m in, $139 million..your turn…
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:15pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “NZ is becoming a welfare state.”
  
  What do you mean ‘becoming’.
  We became one in 1936.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:49pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    When the DPB started.
    
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    October 16, 2018 10:58pm
- The Heat
  
  “Lunch is on me!”
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:31pm
Southern Raider

Cindy is about to fuck us over refugees in Nauru

Australian Govt now saying NZ can take some of the refugees once a law change in AU is passed to stop back door access to Australia via NZ.

So what is this going to mean for us Kiwis?
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October 16, 2018 7:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  Remember where the back door is…..
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:13pm
  - stigie
    
    You don’t have to tell Sweet Cheeks !~
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:26pm
- DigNap15
  
  We all want to bring the refugees here.
  We are disgusted by their treatment on Nauru
  And the fact that some of them have committed suicide
  That is what the Greens and the COL say.
  
  I think most of say, send them all back to their muslim shit holes.
  They have had 5 years of free living, raping and robbing the locals.
  Illegal activity should not be rewarded.
  
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  October 16, 2018 9:18pm
  - Jack5
    
    Is the PC-crazed Jacinderella about to surrender visa-free access for New Zealanders to Australia so that Australia will let us take border crashers from Nauru?
    
    If that happens refugees are going to be hated in New Zealand, and no amount of State propaganda will change that.
    
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    October 16, 2018 9:57pm
    - Jack5
      
      The Melbourne newspaper, The Age, reports that a so-called “lifetime visa ban” would prevent anyone who was sent to Nauru or Manus Island after 19 July 2013 from ever receiving a visa to come to Australia, including a business or tourist visa.
      
      If NZ accepts these border crashers, how could the Aussies achieve that without requiring all NZ’ers to need a visa?
      
      The Age report includes this:
      
      Mr Morrison [the Australian Prime Minister, Scott Morrison] repeatedly noted the bill to close the “back door” from New Zealand into Australia had languished on the notice paper since 2016.
      
      Labor, the Greens and a slew of crossbenchers had vowed to oppose the bill in the Senate, meaning it was sure to fail and was never put to a vote.
      
      The newspaper adds:”Fairfax Media understands the government will put the bill to a vote this week if there is sufficient support for it to pass, and is likely to accept New Zealand’s long-standing offer once it is law.”
      
      https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/scott-morrison-prepared-to-accept-new-zealand-refugee-offer-if-lifetime-ban-law-passed-20181016-p509zu.html
      
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      October 16, 2018 11:48pm
Tall Man

National are not falling apart..Back you go to intern school.
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October 16, 2018 8:12pm
Morrissey

When No One hears your voice …
When No One sees your suffering …
When No One steps to help you…
YOU have to ACT …

https://twitter.com/basemn63/status/1049550112769359872/video/1
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October 16, 2018 8:35pm
- Morrissey
  
  One supporter of mass murder and genocide is with us tonight. Roast in Hell, you piece of scum.
  
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  October 16, 2018 8:44pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Are you talking about yourself you idiot?
    
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    October 16, 2018 8:51pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Cap’n, you’re one of the wits of our time. I presume you know that?
      
      https://makeameme.org/meme/ButBut-I-was
      
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      October 16, 2018 8:58pm
      - starboard
        
        groooaan..pissed again..fool.
        
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        October 17, 2018 3:15am
      - Morrissey
        
        I think the old Cap’n is permanently pissed, starry. At least I hope so; the other possibility is genuinely alarming.
        
        BTW: I note that you fired off that demented and angry message at 3:15 a.m. Are you fretting about the dire state of the Nasty Party?
        
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        October 17, 2018 6:39am
Manolo

Today’s UN:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuban-diplomats-un-stage-noisy-protest-us-event-193549333.html

Cuban diplomats shouted slogans and noisily pounded tables at the United Nations on Tuesday, disrupting a meeting organised by the United States on the plight of Cuban political prisoners.

The diplomats managed to drown out the US representative, Kelley Currie, during her remarks at the UN’s Economic and Social Council, prompting her to demand that security guards remove them from the hall.
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