General Debate 10 October 2018

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flipper

Dear oh Dear….
Pity about poor Fairy dust. And spare a kind thought for poor Alfie’s wife…… and smarmy Philliy, and Powder-puff Woods. Forget about the drunken Mr NO for the moment. We’ll deal with him shortly.
The 5.5 billion surplus announced by Treasury due mainly to increased tax revenue makes it very bloody hard to argue in favour of the fuel tax gouging that this mob has implemented. To make matters worse Peters is in the proverbial poo because, having supported a $1000 tax cut that would have benefited every senior, the noxious creep then voted to eliminate the tax cut that was already in law, awaiting only April 1, 2018.
Now with a surplus of 5.5 billion predicted, which may prove to be more illusory than real to economic gurus, will appeal like a cup of cold Ardern–Peters regurgitation to the great unwashed.
Talk of putting monies aside against some future adverse event when fuel prices are at record highs and blaming fuel companies when even a Grade 5 pupil knows that they are bullshitting, will simply assist in their self-emollition.
And then are the “poor” under-paid teachers (who work only 38 weeks a year) and medicos. Makes their case “stronger”, but only in their money-grubbing minds.
So sad.
But when the House resumes next week they will take comfort from the fact that the grubby duck will be there to cover their lying asses. Pity about New Zealand.
If Mallard tries that it is time for a mass walk-out. ☹
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October 10, 2018 8:01am
- kevn
  
  What we are seeing is creative accounting with coalition borrowing.
  In other words the ‘surplus’ isn’t really there.
  Guarantee it.
  Unfortunately.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:05am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s not really Robertson’s surplus to gloat over. This is the final wash-up of the 2017-18 financial year, the course of which was set by Steven Joyce’s Budget in May 2017.
    
    We’ll see how much of the cash Robertson has flushed away this time next year.
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:09am
    - Piniwi
      
      Bang on KS as we note the hollow excuse about saving for a rainy day from sweet cheeks trying to calm the masses screaming for more because of the high expectations instilled in them before the election. However the astute observers along with the money markets see it for what it is. A slingshot like fiscal lag that will react strongly to the extent it has been stretched as it catches up with all those wonderful appropriated amounts.
      Sweet cheeks has only a faint idea of how bad that slingshot effect will propel forward while being disappointed the dollar managed just a minor blimp on it’s sliding value. The Media party are trying their level best to make it look outstanding for external impressions while sweet cheeks is trying to quell the masses. Lol
      
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      October 10, 2018 5:53pm
  - Harkman
    
    Yes Kev it’ll be inclusive of unrealised gains from the NZ Super fund and ACC’s funds etc. Not actual cash, if these go south, watch out.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:05am
    - kevn
      
      @Hark…. Given this coalition of losers and liars track record, they will be bullsh*t numbers.
      Nothing surer.
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:13am
- igm
  
  Don’t worry about Poofie, he was trained by a real creative accountancy expert . . . his father!
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:10am
  - Paulus
    
    No, he is now an official Accountant, a Creative one.
    He has learnt from the former CA Cullen – call me Sir, on how to tell Treasury to manipulate figures as Cullen did with telling them to leave out the $3 billion deficit in the ACC accounts.
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:19am
  - RF
    
    Don’t worry this bastard will not want to let go of his baubles of office so look out for a massive bribe pre election.
    
    I can see him and the hobbit shovelling gold coins into pensioners bank accounts to win their votes.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:59am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Don’t worry about Poofie…
    
    Is there any need for that kind of comment igm? I don’t have much time for Robertson or his politics, but gratuitous comments like that about his sexuality are a bit low.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:49am
    - igm
      
      It is not his sexuality, it is his sexual preference, and it is disgusting.
      
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      October 10, 2018 1:00pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Extreme homophobia just comes from repressed desires, either for men or just for more adventurous, perhaps anal, sex with women. Loosen up, dude. You’re only fighting yourself.
        
        Ordinary heterosexual men are just relaxed about the topic.
        
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        October 10, 2018 2:41pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        SICK SICK SICK❗
        
        Seek help urgently CL
        
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        October 10, 2018 8:05pm
- artemisia
  
  So there’s an unexpected surplus, and plenty of ideas in how to spend it. Have any of the wannabe spenders considered the taxpayers who are obviously paying too much tax? You know, the workers and the productive sector.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:13am
  - Philview
    
    Then there was the $3 billion borrowings kept off the books at Housing New Zealand. There was also another significant amount of borrowings kept off the books but I can’t recall the details now. I hate to think what else has slipped under the radar.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:43am
    - krazykiwi
      
      This, to me, is the essence of Labour’s slight-of-hand.
      
      By basking in the remaining afterglow of National’s relatively good fiscal management, and then hiding their own borrowing off the books we’re being hoodwinked.
      
      Transparency? No, I don’t think so.
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:40pm
- G152
  
  So the money National had for a tax refund has been discovered by the COL.
  Took long enough
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:14am
- mjw
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I’m sorry, but what about the so-called $11.7 billion fiscal hole? WHERE IS IT?
  
  Why should we believe ANYTHING the National Party says about Labour’s management of government finances?
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:18am
  - Paulus
    
    mjw
    Patience dear boy !
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:21am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Any funds Granty can get his greedy hands on will be set aside for 2020 for bribing the electorate for their votes. It will be a glitter windfall year full of promises for those dumb enough to fall for a repeat performance by the inept COL.
      
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      October 10, 2018 8:32am
      - igm
        
        Suppose he will use this so-called surplus to fund expensive poofter drugs for his close knit friends.
        
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        October 10, 2018 9:48am
  - rockape
    
    There spending plans announced before the election have been kicked down the road. Have the built houses, planted trees built roads and railways? Extra nurse, extra teacher no not yet that will come and the surplus will go and some.
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:27am
    - VicParking
      
      Photo Shoots with dad and Neve
      Trips to the Tropics with dad and Neve
      Job Interviews in NY with dad a Neve
      Upcoming Photo shoots with Royalty with dad and Neve
      Upcoming Trips to Ratana with papa and Neve Aroha??
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:26am
    - Piniwi
      
      But rockape spare a thought for the poor nurses who swallowed the “empty cupboard” best offer not only to find it yielded much less than it seemed but could have been better if they had not been fooled? Good times ahead for school children with plenty of extra time to play perhaps.
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:07pm
  - KevOB
    
    The holes for their future adventures in public finance.
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:29am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    mjw:
    
    The surplus is for the year from July 2017 to June 2018. Labour’s first annual budget was in May 2018. So the surplus is almost entirely a consequence of National’s budget in May 2017.
    
    The $11 billion fiscal hole is in Labour’s budget. We should start to see it in the difference between the actual 2018-19 result, which will come out a year from now, and the result projected in Labour’s budget. After allowing for the borrowing they are doing outside the government accounts.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:11am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The government has (against official advice) borrowed 6.5 billion through shifty off-the-books borrowing for NZTA and housing NZ. This surplus is actually a 1 Billion deficit.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:56am
- Than
  
  This government is so screwed next election. In the famous words of Bill Clinton, “It’s the economy, stupid”. And right now there are some very dark economic clouds on the horizon for the CoL.
  
  A weakening NZ$.
  
  Record high fuel prices.
  
  Price increases caused by a combination of fuel price, weakening NZ$, and minimum wage increases.
  
  Business confidence extremely low.
  
  The near certainty that minimum wage increases + low business confidence will result in increased unemployment. (And that’s even without considering the impact of major shake-ups to employment law. )
  
  All of which will be making life very difficult for the average Kiwi family by the time we get to 2020. Not all of these things are the government’s fault… but enough of them very directly are that National will have an easy time blaming Labour for people’s financial woes. And they can’t deflect everything on petrol companies.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:30am
  - Philview
    
    When the minimum wage increases go through we will be the country with the highest minimum wage payments in the world in US$ and the Left call NZ a low wage economy.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:47am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Than so it is not unexpected when they sing loud and clear how retail spending had a bit of a surge in September. Forgetting it was artificially boosted by the slower than expected lift from the Family Package, Baby Bonus and the WEP handouts. The economical equivalent of a placebo many can be convinced is helping them.
    
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    October 10, 2018 6:20pm
holysheet

I was walking alone along the coast of northland a few days ago. The recent storm had eroded the shoreline where maori had feasted for centuries. I spotted a clay pot exposed in a shell heap. When I picked it up it shattered in my hands. A chinese sorcerer appeared instantly standing on a granite boulder. Speaking in perfect English he explained how he got imprisoned and was aware of modern world events. He explain that he would need to grant me one wish to remain free and asked me for a request.
I said, “I want to travel to Australia but I am afraid to fly. I wish for a bridge across the Tasman Sea.”
He responded, “ That would take a lot of concrete and steel. The supports would be almost impossible. It would have to be protected from storms and hurricanes .” He went on and on. “Do you have another wish that you could request?”
“There is,” I said. “Since Jacinda was selected Prime minister, I have wanted to know why any Kiwis can possibly support her.”
A dreadful look came on the sorcerer’s face and then he said, “How many lanes do you want on that bridge.”
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October 10, 2018 8:03am
- Woz
  
  Since it was a Chinese sorcerer, I deduce it was a Chinese clay pot. The Maoris weren’t advanced enough to make them.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:49am
  - Longknives
    
    I’m pretty sure Maori invented Chinese Porcelain..
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:54am
    - G152
      
      Polynesians actually did have a pottery culture at one time on a volcanic land (see Lapita) but as they spread across the Pacific on coral islands there was no clay and so the culture died out…
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:25am
      - Woz
        
        Yes, true. I concede that point fully, but won’t let it stand in the way of my prejudices. 🙂
        
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        October 10, 2018 9:32am
      - rockape
        
        You can still get Lapita pots in Vanuatu. I traded for some when there.
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:41am
      - lifesgood
        
        Plenty of clay in NZ but they never used it or redeveloped a clay pot culture. I wonder why? They really didn’t develop much at all, did they?.
        
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        October 10, 2018 3:40pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Woz, so we can safely conclude that your brain architecture (Longkinves, too) is superior to that of a Maori??
    
    What would lead us to the idea?
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:50am
    - Woz
      
      It’s entirely self-evident, Stephanie. If you can’t see it, then that would indicate that your own brain architecture might be a bit last-gen.
      
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      October 10, 2018 10:14am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Stephie… your question was meant to be facetious, but it’s best replied to with a serious answer.
      
      There’s no essential difference in brain architecture between races and it’s untenable to assign any race superiority over any others. All races have the same potential.
      
      A Maori has the same inherent abilities as any other race. But the important thing is culture. If you grow up believing that your tribe defines your identity, or that you can explain away your failures by blaming people’s actions from 150 years ago, or that aggression and grunting are valid forms of communication, then it’s as if your brain architecture is deficient. Same result.
      
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      October 10, 2018 10:56am
      - Rich Prick
        
        The same thing occurs with people who have been immersed in a retarded Stone Age satanic death cult.
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:08am
      - GoVege
        
        Excellently explained Dave!
        And the results are even worse when those little brains are surrounded by drunken gang associates during their formative years.
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:49am
- Fletch
  
  Haha, an oldie, but a goodie. The second wish request is typically, “I want to understand women”.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:20am
Steve (North Shore)

Money money money $5.5B
Hang about, over $2B is in penalties and fines on child support. Come on MSM, report the real figures
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October 10, 2018 8:04am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  The surplus is calculated using standard Treasury rules. They haven’t changed since the change of govt.
  However this surplus is almost entirely from the last govt. It will shrink for 2018/19 which will be Robertson’s first real year. At the rate things are going by a huge amount, possibly even a deficit.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:39am
  - Jazzby
    
    Quite so, Wayne. However, I’m sure that Labour and their media sycophants are only too well aware of HL Mencken’s famous quote:
    “No one in this world, so far as I know – and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me – has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”
    
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    October 10, 2018 12:34pm
MT_Tinman

More people and companies apologising to bullies has been reported today.

Notably among them an astronaut and a hotel.

I always read these stories: I will deliberately avoid any person or business who have succumbed to the bullying scum.
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October 10, 2018 8:05am
Sofia

Will Simon Bridges mark Mental Health Week by identifying the mentally ill MP that Winston and Mallard insist is among his colleagues?

Jessica Mutch McKay suggests –
1 – The inquiry finds the leaker is an MP, who is named and shamed and pushed out by the party, which could cause a by-election.
2 – The inquiry finds the leaker is an MP and National keeps it under wraps.
3 – The inquiry identifies a staff member as the leaker and that person is dealt with by the party.
4 – Or the inquiry can’t find enough evidence to identify the leaker and they stay working in the corridors of power.

Can ‘2’ happen? –
“We want to be as open and transparent as we possibly can so we anticipate making the report public.” – Simon Bridges
National can’t trash Clare Curran and then not be transparent themself?

Can ‘4’ happen? –
“I believe that Winston Peters does know who the leaker is. It is pretty much an open secret now among National people. I understand that the leaker has admitted as such to some Young Nationals in Auckland. I also know now who it is, and that is from many sources, all saying the same name” – Cameron Slater https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/09/winston-to-bridges-reveal-to-the-public-who-the-leaker-is-or-i-will/

Is PricewaterhouseCoopers less informed than the Police, Winston, many National people, some Young Nationals in Auckland and Cameron Slater?
And if they find no one ‘responsible’, can Simon get our taxpaid funds back?
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October 10, 2018 8:12am
artemisia

Ms Ardern on petrol prices – it’s not our fault and anyway the other lot did it too , while producing OECD rankings and a lot of numbers.

News for you, Prime Minister. Technically you may be correct, I don’t know, but to the men and women filling up at the pump and paying for the groceries it is a load of old cobblers.
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October 10, 2018 8:15am
- niggly
  
  Jacinda forgets that when “the other lot did it too” petrol was well under $2/litre (IIRC, ~$1.70/l)!
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:34am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  National raised petrol tax by just under $0.02 a year during their term. CoL bump tax and regional fuel tax in their first year is already $0.14, with another planned rise of $0.04 2019 and 2020, as well as ACC adding a few more cents. And they have put the NZD in the shitter to really hammer home the pain.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:05am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Reports that fuel outlet staff are being abused for the rise in price. The staff need a large sign saying ‘blame the government for fuel tax increases’. I guess it’s easier to take their frustration out on the innocent person on the till.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:18am
    - Colinxy
      
      I’ve been told petrol tank drivers are also copping abuse.
      
      It really needs to be spread far and wide just how large a take the avarice government makes out of petrol.
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:31am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      ‘Thanks Taxinda’ on every petrol pump would do :).
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:45am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Unfortunately, it is completely true that National did it as well. Don’t hold your breath waiting for Simon Bridges or any other National leader to pledge to lower petrol taxes, let alone to a level sufficient to pay for roads and no more.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:16am
  - Colinxy
    
    Sadly our governments look at petrol as a cash cow.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:37am
  - flipper
    
    He has already made that promise.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:03am
    - sooty
      
      The goverment is going to be weaned of the petrol tax as they go to EV’s.
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:43am
- Philview
  
  I noticed that she didn’t mention the exchange rate but decided to be a “populist” leader and started shouting about corporate crooks.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:53am
slightlyrighty

Nurses: WE WANT A PAYRISE!

Gummint: Be Patient, there isn’t as much money as you think…..

Nurses: WE WANT A 16% PAYRISE NOW! STRIKE!

Gumint: OK, we will find the 500 million we need.

Teachers: WE WANT A PAYRISE!

Gummint: We know, but you must be patient, after the nurses, there’s even less money than you think.

Teachers: WE WANT A 16% PAYRISE NOW!

Gummint: There really is no money…

gummint: LOOK! a 5.5 Billion Surplus!
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October 10, 2018 8:16am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  All I can think of is Shane Jones popping up like a seagull in Finding Nemo, shouting “Mine, Mine, Mine!”
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:57am
wiseowl

Has Jan Thomas resigned yet?
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October 10, 2018 8:19am
- Colinxy
  
  I suspect it would take more than a crowbar for Thomas to be pried away from the trough.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:39am
- Nermal
  
  She will probably resign about the time MeToo gets convicted for benefit fraud
  
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  October 10, 2018 5:52pm
oldpark

Flashback to April 1 2018. Yes the National Government promised Two Billion Dollar tax cuts all legislated for and even voted for by “Foxy” Peters. Once “Foxy” Peters got the baubles of Power he vetoed the tax cuts.
We now know where the Two Billion Dollars gouged out of Taxpayers entitlements,has ended up. Yes it has become part of the so called surplus and heralded by” Little Bo Peep” Ardern and what a good boy am i “Tom Thumb” Robertson.
“Little Bo Peep” Ardern talks about Fleecing . Yes her and her ilk have been pulling the wool over her supporters eyes and treating them like sheep.
Now all has been revealed about the gouged Two Billion Dollars with the help of “Foxy” Peters surely it is time the Teachers and Police are now entitled to get their pay claims satisfied. After all it is their money,payment is long overdue and should be paid out Pronto.
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October 10, 2018 8:19am
G152

The ‘mental health’ claim is a diversionary tactic.
Look at the political claimants.
Not a lot of caring concerned there
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October 10, 2018 8:20am
secondcumming

Has anyone else here seen this?

By the time I got home last night, the missus had commandeered the Sky remote, so was forced to watch some crap on TV3 called ‘Married at first sight’

Crikey…where do they find these people? What a collection of total misfits! Those resident Psycologists that matched them up need to have their Practising Certificates withdrawn.

The token gay blokes were a complete embarrassment. If the skinny one with the bad attitude was looking for a bearded lady, then he probably got his wish.

The *standout female* for me was the horny looking Russian babe. Unfortunately for Svetlana, they’ve hitched her up with some retard from Wanganui……that ain’t going to end well.

I mean okay, maybe she can’t play golf for shit, but she sure looked the part in those tight ‘Plus-Fours’. I wouldn’t hesitate to lend her my nine-iron if she was keen to do a few holes.
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October 10, 2018 8:21am
- softail 1450
  
  S C,unfortunatly to add insult its probably paid for by the taxpayers.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:48am
- Harkman
  
  “the horny looking Russian babe.”
  
  Heck I might have to watch, ? I can’t believe that the Honey Badger didn’t keep Dasha.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:10am
- VicParking
  
  “Retard from Wanganui”. You have just abused half the town
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:31am
  - softail 1450
    
    V P “1/2 the town” ?? have they had a massive influx of Aucklanders for it to be that low?
    We stopped at the Maccas there on the way to wellington ,
    the only thing missing was the guy from deliverance playing the banjo.
    
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    October 10, 2018 11:17am
    - softail 1450
      
      VP ,Oh and septicboy screaming yeee haaa boy.
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:23am
      - GoVege
        
        You’re definitely on form today Softie. 🙂
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:46am
- dime
  
  “The *standout female* for me was the horny looking Russian babe.”
  
  what? it looks like an uglier version of Jacinda and has a c*nt of a personality. dear god. don’t get me started on the skin problems.
  
  Full Disclosure – Dime doesn’t watch kiwi tv.. but the Married at first sight train wreck is hilarious. Fully addicted to the shit.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:52am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  ‘Married at first sight’
  
  I’ve never missed missing it and I plan to keep it that way.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:53am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  Given the plethora of viewing available on the myriad of online platforms, how TV3 plan to meet a market share with this sort of drivel is beyond me, but then they also have a programme devoted to nothing but people watching television talking about watching television!
  
  They’ll keep going until they find the lowest common denominator!
  
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  October 10, 2018 11:01am
Happychappy

It sounds like the social housing problem is only going to get worse if you take notice of those that have been supplying housing for the needy in the past. For one of the major suppliers the Salvation Army to turn against Twyford and say that it not working and will stop those helping the needy from building more social housing is going to be a problem achieving the more than 6000 house they want built by 2020.
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October 10, 2018 8:21am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

Salaam Kiwibloggers.

May Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate, bless you with goodness.
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October 10, 2018 8:22am
- KevOB
  
  Now, go and find yourself the real Deity instead of one based on a pedophiles imagination.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:34am
- VicParking
  
  “And successful are the believers who guard their chastity … except from their wives or those that their right hands possess.”
  “The woman found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah”
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:41am
  - KevOB
    
    Vicious beliefs.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:13am
- geoff3012
  
  I am an a non believer.
  
  I don’t fuck camels……or goats…..
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:01am
- Rich Prick
  
  “Now go and strike the Infidel and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant.”
  
  Lovely.
  
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  October 10, 2018 11:19am
Left Right and Centre

If you’re happy and cisgender wave your jazz hands.

WARNING!! graphic vid. 18 seconds in – how on earth that woman escapes I’ll never know.
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October 10, 2018 8:24am
- softail 1450
  
  L R C, Thats the results of an unending supply of $5.00 40 oz vodkas, and a leader like Vladimir.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:45am
- Harkman
  
  Far out, yes Russian roads are notorious. Ever hear the one about the Irishman that always stopped on a green light? He reasoned that his brother, who taught him to drive, might be coming the other way.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:16am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Heard it?
    
    I got stuck behind the bastard the other day !
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:54am
Morrissey

Requiescat in Pace, Uncle Maurizio

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/107617475/the-last-seduction-of-maurizio-zanfanti-italys-most-famous-holiday-lothario
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October 10, 2018 8:26am
softail 1450

Mecca, couldn’t you talk him into pronouncing world peace? dont forget to tell him to speak to all the filthy terrorists that are only following what it says in his fantasy book the Quran…
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October 10, 2018 8:31am
VicParking

Simon Marks was realed out by Red Radio to raise a long list of conspiracy theorys as to why Nikky Haley is leaving her post at the UN. They followed the CNN line that”
She was pushed
She is standing for President
She needs to raise money??
Her interview with Trump dispeled all of these:
Trump told her she can come back to the WH at any time “Name your position”
She said she will be campaigning for Trump in 2020
Yes she is not Rich but has no Debt and does not need to raise money because she is going nowhere

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEENopuCdzc&feature=share
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October 10, 2018 8:32am
- MCos
  
  When he said ‘Name your position’ I think he was referring to an ambassadorship.
  I think he’d like to get her well out of the way when the next Presidential election comes around just in case she ‘changes her mind’.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:09am
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    When he said ‘Name your position’ I think he was referring to an ambassadorship.
    
    She no doubt feared the Old Groper had something else in mind. Hence she’s leaving, pronto.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:18am
    - MCos
      
      How could you think such a thing?
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:22am
    - VicParking
      
      Is Husband in in the Military and would deal to Trump right quick
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:34am
- Justitia
  
  If Nikki’s available maybe we could get her in a swap for Comrade Cindy through AFS for the next couple of years? Nikki would make a fantastic PM and Cindy could hone her communications skills selling socialism to the good ol’ boys of South Carolina. She could even have her own pickup truck.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:34am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And Jethro would fit right in.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:54am
brett68

A comment regarding the “surplus” from another site I’ll post it word for word because you need to be a member to read it

A revaluation of the national state highway network has improved the Governments books, and turned $2.4 billion deficit into a $5.5 billion surplus.

Against a $2.2 billion spend on the network, with the majority on State Highway 1 due to the Kaikoura Earthquakes, the revaluation appears to have taken a replacement based approach, as opposed to a value based approach which has resulted in a $2.4 billion uplift, as well as an average preliminary and general assumption rate of 34% equating to an $4 billion uplift.

It does not seem that this valuation approach has been widely used in many other countries, but with some creative accounting the Government has turned a certain deficit into an astounding surplus. This will certainly be surprising to many, especially when considering the major increase in value is due to a fairly unusual approach.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=1774141&topic=7

I’m no accountant but is there any truth in this comment?

If so it explains Robertsons rainy day comment, there’s no money to spend!
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October 10, 2018 8:35am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So between that and the 6.5billion in SOE borrowing for NZTA and housing that doesn’t show up on balance sheet they are actually about $5billion in deficit?
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:18am
  - brett68
    
    That seems to be the crux of it.
    6.5 +5 =11.5 billion hole.
    
    The media in this country sucks, they really are the enemy of democracy.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:28am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    If this is the case, then the Gummint trumpeting a 5.5 billion surplus while simultaneously claiming there is no money for state service pay claims is, to put it mildly, odd.
    
    In other words, Grant Robertson is Erwin Schrödinger personified as a Finance Minister in that the surplus both exists and does not.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:53am
    - Right of way is Way of Right
      
      I’d rather he was the personification of the cat, then we could stick him in a box and pretend that he does, or does not exist!
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:03am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Oops, that roading revaluation added $6.4billion, so with NZTA and housing off the books borrowing that totals $12.9billion of fake gain, making claimed 5.5billion surplus really a $7.4billion deficit.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:04am
- Tricati
  
  If this the case Amy Adams needs to all over this at the next Question Time, that’s if Mallard allows Robbo to be questioned.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:12am
- KevOB
  
  The PM economises with truth and and Pooh Bah Grant inflates the Public Accounts with revaluations.
  
  Try spending the revaluation on public service pay demands. Phony govt.
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:28am
igm

Gnashers once again showing her socialist vile uncontrolled ignorance by stating service station operators are ripping off the public.
The margins paid to them per litre are pathetic and once again the SLG has shown what a bloody useless POS she is.
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October 10, 2018 8:36am
DigNap15

Yes, the margins on fuel selling are quite small.
That is why the petrol stations all the other stuff that they do to try to make a profit.
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October 10, 2018 8:48am
- igm
  
  The incidentals in a service station are to supplement the inadequate margins on petrol. Most are barely eking a living, with wages and operating costs becoming prohibitive.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:17am
  - G152
    
    Just think of all the families out in the country and how the fuel costs might well force them into town thus reducing the rural workforce and rural society
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:31am
    - KevOB
      
      Commies don’t have unintended consequences they’re always planning tomorrows mistakes.
      
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      October 10, 2018 10:31am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Yes, like Mao’s ‘kill all the sparrows, they’re eating our grains’.
        
        We know how that worked out…
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:58am
  - MCos
    
    1 – Marsden Point have a monopoly on the supply of refined petrol in NZ.
    
    2 – I don’t know what the situation is now, but according to to this report NZ had the highest priced pretax petrol in the OECD in May-2017.
    
    https://nzier.org.nz/static/media/filer_public/98/d0/98d0aec6-875f-49ab-95ce-b5a9b6ecd6c7/new_zealand_fuel_market_financial_performance_study_final_report.pdf
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:46am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Probably something to do with living at the end of the globe. All the more reason to not heap more taxes on.
      
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      October 10, 2018 12:40pm
    - rangitoto
      
      ” Marsden Point have a monopoly on the supply of refined petrol in NZ.”
      
      It’s not a monopoly when the product can be purchased direct from Singapore and other places.
      
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      October 10, 2018 12:49pm
    - Jack5
      
      MCos says NZ had the highest pre-tax petrol in the OECD last year.
      
      The fact that NZ is far from the suppliers, and the high cost of shipping it around the archipelago called New Zealand explains that.
      
      Some good finds of oil ashore or in our territorial waters could have brought the pre-tax petrol price down, but Jacinderella and the Greens have killed that.
      
      Axing of new petroleum exploration is likely the worst economic vandalism in NZ – ever!
      
      It’s as though Jacinderella, instead of marrying the prince after her foot fitted into the slipper, threw up all over His Highness.
      
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      October 10, 2018 2:33pm
- Kabull
  
  I seem to recall hearing or reading that the profit at the pump for the retailer is about 7c per litre. That’s only $3.50 on every sale of 50 litres.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:58am
Woz

I don’t know which is worst: the shockingly unprofessional behaviour of that fucking woman, the shameless media-whoring of the baby, or the mush-brained media who enable it.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/shh-bubba-neve-steals-the-show-as-jacinda-ardern-addresses-govt-surplus-in-live-video.html
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October 10, 2018 8:57am
- igm
  
  She is quickly becoming the most detested female in NZ. She is now less popular than Clark just before JK gave her the arse card.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:18am
  - stephieboy
    
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    igm, yes by who and the rest of the 0.00001 %! rabid right!
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:39am
    - Woz
      
      So, Stephanie, what do you get up to for fun around there at your shared social housing unit?
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:06pm
  - Colinxy
    
    Speaking of which, does anyone know when the next polls are out?
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:41am
    - DigNap15
      
      The last Colmar Brunton one was in August.
      How often do you want them in a non election year?
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:50am
      - Colinxy
        
        Well, it appears there were ones (not necessarily the same polling company) producing polls most months of 2016 (a non-election year): January, February, April, May, June, July, August, September, October and November.
        
        So, they’ve been a bit scarce of late.
        
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        October 10, 2018 10:08am
    - igm
      
      As they adversely affect CoL, media will not be publishing any.
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:52am
    - Nermal
      
      I don’t think Labour wants polls for obvious reasons, and suspect Simon & Paula don’t either
      
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      October 10, 2018 5:58pm
  - KevOB
    
    Where’s the polls?
    Dare they?
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:32am
    - sooty
      
      No they don’t!
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:48am
- Jules99
  
  Pretty much demonstrating how hard it is to keep your mind on the job with a baby in the background. Experienced parents already know this.
  
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  October 10, 2018 1:17pm
- Piniwi
  
  But Woz it was her chatting on Facebook? Seriously? But it is becoming common for the baby being needed for a diversion from real or serious issues the COL or the silly little girl has. What can we expect this Friday?
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:52pm
- RF
  
  I am struggling to express my outrage at the whoring of the baby by Ardern.
  
  Ardern is a self centered stupid fuking idiot that is becoming worse every time she open her wide yap.
  
  Unfortunately the media are in love with her and up until now she can do no wrong.
  
  Hopefully the tide is turning and petrol crisis might just be her Achilles heel.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:20pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Possibly the most insane comment of the day! Congratulations, my friend. I recommend you consult a psychiatrist to help you with your Jacinda Derangement Syndrome.
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:30pm
Longknives

A few of us Kiwibloggers were chatting the other day about the dramatic decline in Police Recruiting standards- As it seems ‘Hip Hop’ dancing skills and ‘Diversity’ are more important attributes than actual Policing suitability these days.

Well what do you know?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107683421/new-police-recruits-investigated-for-indecent-assault-drinking-in-uniform-intimidation

This is an absolute fucking disgrace.
Mike Bush and Stuart Nash should hang their heads in shame.
If there are any serving (or Ex) Police here on Kiwiblog I’d really like to hear their opinions on this..
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October 10, 2018 9:00am
- igm
  
  No wonder good cops are getting out. Who would want to rely on one of these unemployable losers in a fracas.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:20am
- SaltyCroc
  
  I have just read that article from the link – what a bloody disgrace!! If this trend continues in wings 319 on then trust and confidence in the Police (which Police leadership want at all costs despite the massive shortfalls the public face especially in Auckland) will dive and who can blame the public for feeling this way? This is a reality check for the Police that all this fancy corporate glossing over will never be able to hide. Very sad….
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:45am
  - igm
    
    But they must be inclusive, the lying crockery-faced unelected PM said so!
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:54am
  - backster
    
    This is the foreseeable result of the first Recruit wing fully exposed to the official ‘Culture Shift” reported in Aprils Police News.Recruits no; longer have to parade or do drill practise. Room inspections kept to a minimum and hair can be worn how they like. Discipline is less disciplined i.e. If late for class 10 pressups no longer required, just noted in a diary. Saluting Officers no longer required, and staff and recruits encouraged to call each other by first names….{Like Massey) the focus is on serving the Treaty and Diversity…
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:21am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I cringed when I heard Stuart Nash refer to them as the “NZ Police Service” this morning instead of the Police Force.
  
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  October 10, 2018 11:47am
  - Morrissey
    
    Why? Aren’t they supposed to serve us?
    
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    October 10, 2018 11:52am
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      It’s euphemistic, Morrissey.
      
      “Force” has connotations of armed forces, which now are called the armed services.
      
      Bureaucrats have concluded the word “forces” is too militaristic.
      
      Bit like in the NZ city where I live, the word “neighbourhood watch” has been changed to “neighbourhood support”.
      
      The term “watch” goes back centuries for volunteer groups who maintain law and order. But it is too militaristic for PC leftists.
      
      Some of them specialise in taking over community and international volunteer organisations, for example, of Amnesty.
      
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      October 10, 2018 2:26pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Thanks for that, Jack!
        
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        October 10, 2018 5:04pm
      - kowtow
        
        Jack
        
        The ‘Watch’ was the night time guard duty while ‘ward’ was daytime.
        
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        October 10, 2018 7:03pm
  - kowtow
    
    Interestingly “force” no longer applies to the police name since at least the new act in 2008.
    
    Subpart 1—New Zealand Police, principles, functions, and roles of others
    7 New Zealand Police
    (1)
    There continues to be an instrument of the Crown known as the New Zealand Police.
    (2)
    The New Zealand Police is the same organisation as that—
    (a)
    established as the Police Force under the Police Force Act 1886; and
    (b)
    continued in existence as the Police Force under the Police Force Act 1908, the Police Force Act 1913, and the Police Force Act 1947; and
    (c)
    continued in existence as the New Zealand Police under the Police Act 1958;
    
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    October 10, 2018 6:57pm
- Morrissey
  
  Sadly, the police have a history of attracting the very worst people. Are you a coward? A bully? A psychopath? A racist? There’s a job for you, buddy….
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2018/may/29/us-police-officer-violently-arrests-woman-on-beach-video
  
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  October 10, 2018 11:51am
  - Jazzby
    
    Other than citing that example from the US, are you able to substantiate your rather sweeping, derogatory, and worrying claim?
    I’m particularly concerned about your use of the obsolete term ‘psychopath’; you really will have to qualify that if you want to be taken seriously.
    
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    October 10, 2018 4:52pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Sadly, I can cite THOUSANDS of such examples from the U.S. and also many from this country and Australia.
      
      Your fastidious objection to the use of the “obsolete” term “psychopath” is noteworthy; I wonder if you get so exercised about police in New Zealand harassing Maori kids constantly?
      
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      October 10, 2018 5:04pm
      - Jazzby
        
        An irrelevant objection. Besides, don’t use words that you don’t understand.
        
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        October 10, 2018 6:16pm
  - kowtow
    
    There’s an awful lot more to that story than Moronossey is prepared to admit…….
    
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    October 10, 2018 6:39pm
- RF
  
  Longknives… I have been discussing this with other former cops and all are disgusted with what’s happening.
  
  Unfortunately Mike Bush does not want to rock the boat so standards are dropping just keep the numbers and Nash happy.
  
  When I went through Trentham years ago you were quickly terminated for activities far less that what the current recruits got up to.
  
  This bloody Govt pisses me off.
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:29pm
kevn

@LK… I gather a lot of the ‘diversity’ applicants chosen, are accepted in with minimal skill/talent/abilities even with poor language and written word skills. Once in the real police world job, they fizzle out real quick with lack of basic skills becoming apparent very quickly. Other staff are having to pick up/tidy up after them. Some newbies will stick like shit to a blanket because of the cleanup happening after them means ‘all good’ and the pay is great.
Not ideal is it?
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October 10, 2018 9:08am
- Longknives
  
  I used to work very closely with the Police.
  I noticed a dramatic change in calibre of new recruits in my later years in that job. Where Police Constables would once turn up to Court looking smart in their Tunic and ‘Number Ones’ they now stroll in casually in their dirty operational uniform. And the attitude-Jesus who knew that being 21 years old and having made it through the 16 weeks of Police Training (didn’t it used to be much longer?) meant that you knew fucking EVERYTHING?
  Best part was when I had some stroppy young Maori female (a year or so out of College) tell me I didn’t know what I was “f##king talking about”…I have never experienced attitude like it!
  And to think a good friend of mine (An NCO with a Law Degree and multiple Commendations and awards) resigned recently because they told him as a white male he probably wouldn’t get Promoted to Inspector…
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:18am
  - stephieboy
    
    Longknives,
    
    “I used to work very closely with the Police.?
    
    In what capacity?
    
    Snitcher?
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:37am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Stupidboy, do you ever have anything positive to say?
      Crawl back under your rock.
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:51am
      - stephieboy
        
        Captain Mainwaring, I have every right to be sceptical of anecdotal remarks like,’
        
        “I used to work very closely with the Police.” ??
        
        Ok, in what capacity? What and why for?
        
        I think the quality of graduates is by and large no different than before. Otherwise, his post appears rather pointless.
        
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        October 10, 2018 10:00am
      - Longknives
        
        “Ok, in what capacity? What and why for?”
        
        I was a Security Guard at St Lukes Mall Stephieboy!
        We were always calling the Cops- Lots of weirdos there who were pestering the young Girls….
        
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        October 10, 2018 10:14am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        The quality is by and large the same?
        
        Since the early 1990’s:
        Reduction in minimum height standards
        Reduction in required scholastic achievement esepcially written and spoken English
        Reduction in physical testing threshold
        Removal of policy on visible tattoos
        Reduction on thresholds of pre-exisiting medical conditions
        Removal of exclusion for pre-exisiting criminal convictions
        
        Sure Stephieboy, they are by and large the same.
        
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        October 10, 2018 10:36am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        You’ve said some stupid things in your time stephie, but that takes the biscuit.
        
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        October 10, 2018 11:52am
    - igm
      
      goatshagger: The only narks here are left-wing gutless wimps like you!
      
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      October 10, 2018 9:55am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Fuck off you miserable twat. You are the most negative, hateful, spiteful little arsehole I have ever encountered. Jesus must truly hate your ugly little soul.
      
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      October 10, 2018 10:09am
  - Longknives
    
    Damn edit didn’t work-
    I should add- The young lady swore at me after I suggested to her that she be more ‘Professional’ in her interactions with the public..
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:40am
  - Philview
    
    In the media a while back there were stories of frightened recruits refusing to get out of patrol cars.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:59am
cas

Petrol here yesterday being advertised at Caltex for $2.189 for 91. And no we don’t have a Gull nor are we a large city, rather a small rural town.
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October 10, 2018 9:08am
- PhilP
  
  Must be a miss-print surely? Wrong amount on the signage?
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:25am
- kevn
  
  Here in Rotorua, a suburban independant Challenge station, $2.16 a litre for 91. Gold card dudes get another 8c a litre off.
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:34am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    Fuel prices here in the SI seem to be based on how the retailer felt when he woke up that morning.
    
    I paid $1.70 for diesel on Monday morning and Monday evening just outside ChCh.
    
    Less than 100 metres away a servo advertised it for $1.84.
    
    Rakaia had it advertised for $1.78, Hinds for $1.76.
    
    Note: All prices omit the obligatory .99.
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:20am
kevn

@cas… and where is ‘here’?
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October 10, 2018 9:14am
Harkman

So about 10 days ago I posted on here about opening a device on the MSN news page and it had a pro Cindy piece by like Yahoo finance titled “NZD tearing it up,” then last week there was an article by Bloomberg titled, “The NZD tumbling” and last night there was a link, “Here’s where the next crisis will start” and it had a picture of a NZ one dollar. Gee that was a quick turn around.
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October 10, 2018 9:22am
Fletch

So according to new studies, those greenie windmills would actually warm the planet if built in the numbers they’re talking about….lol

In two papers — published today in the journals Environmental Research Letters and Joule — Harvard University researchers find that the transition to wind or solar power in the U.S. would require five to 20 times more land than previously thought, and, if such large-scale wind farms were built, would warm average surface temperatures over the continental U.S. by 0.24 degrees Celsius.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/10/large-scale-wind-power-has-its-down-side/
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October 10, 2018 9:23am
- stephieboy
  
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  Fletch , from your link-
  
  “If your perspective is the next 10 years, wind power actually has — in some respects — more climate impact than coal or gas. If your perspective is the next thousand years, then wind power has enormously less climatic impact than coal or gas.”
  
  — David Keith
  
  Sigh!
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:35am
  - Evadne
    
    I doubt they’ll still be using windmill-generated electricity in 1000 years, let alone coal or gas, so it’s a moot point.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:45am
    - Jazzby
      
      Quite. Cold fusion, for example, will have been perfected on a commercially viable scale, long before then.
      
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      October 10, 2018 4:56pm
MCos

Tweet of the day, so far

‘There used to be in president-press relations something called a gaffe. The gaffe doesn’t exist any more because it’s become the whole presidency.’

Jay Rosen
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October 10, 2018 9:56am
MCos

Another tweet of the day

https://twitter.com/espncricinfo/status/1049643066045411328?s=12
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October 10, 2018 9:59am
- stephieboy
  
  The Brits did leave an enduring legacy after all!
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:02am
Disillusioned_Voter

Just awesome… Academics trolling Grievance Studies by submitting ridiculous papers and getting them published!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk9a5Jcd1k
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October 10, 2018 10:04am
MT_Tinman

Probably THE most disappointing headline I have seen this year.

Mysterious-hole-shoots-out-flames-for-nearly-an-hour-in-Arkansas-Satan-ruled-out

https://www.sott.net/article/397669-Mysterious-hole-shoots-out-flames-for-nearly-an-hour-in-Arkansas-Satan-ruled-out
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October 10, 2018 10:11am
igm

So the CoL is tightening up lending rules and operations of finance companies etc.
People utilising these facilities have stuffed their credit with mainstream institutions by way of default, collection, or plain stupidity.
Wait till they try and get a dollar and go to gangs, they will learn real rules when they don’t pay. There will be plenty of losers walking with permanent limps and other injuries.
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October 10, 2018 10:26am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Trump administration’s weak-dollar policy could kill the economic rally, analyst Bove says

* Banking analyst Dick Bove said the Trump administration’s weak dollar policy would halt the economic momentum built up since the president was elected.
* Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin this week said a softer greenback “is good for us.
* While the stock market has preferred a weak currency, Bove said it ultimately would drive up borrowing costs.
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The weak U.S. dollar policy as advocated this week by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin would stop the economic boom in its tracks, noted banking analyst Dick Bove said.

Since Mnuchin made comments Wednesday indicating that the White House prefers a softer greenback, the currency has plunged. Efforts Mnuchin made Thursday to backtrack failed, with the dollar off another 0.5 percent or so against its global competitors in morning trade.

That comes along with a 14 percent or so decline since President Donald Trump took office in early 2017. Trump himself is on record as preferring the weakness as it gives exporters an edge on the global trading stage….”

Hmmmm…I wonder where Jacinda and Grant got their economic advice from?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/25/trump-weak-dollar-policy-could-kill-economy-analyst-bove-
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October 10, 2018 10:49am
Inandout

I thought Munchins were Wizard of OZ characters?
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October 10, 2018 10:58am
krazykiwi

The inaugural Jonesie Waste Awards about to kick off at parliament. Who will be the category winners?
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October 10, 2018 10:58am
Classic Liberal

Great interview this morning after Ravensdown fire with manager (?) Greg Campbell. He was down to earth, sensible, calm, praised the right people (staff and emergency services), expressed the right feelings (nobody hurt), and assured locals re safety (no explosives stored) and farmers re product availability for spring.

I wished the National party could have such a leader.
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October 10, 2018 11:55am
Albert_Ross

So: not bottling water, not farming, not oil and gas exploration, not mining, not tourism, not selling houses.

Perhaps it would be quicker for the Government to set out the ways in which they do think it acceptable for New Zealand to seek to earn its living?
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October 10, 2018 12:59pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  If only you were joking :(. They seem determined to bring us all down to the lowest common denominator and then say ‘look, we’ve achieved equality!’
  
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  October 10, 2018 2:38pm
  - Komata
    
    CL
    
    Such is the way of the socialists / communists.
    
    Take a prosperous country, deprive its citizens of the means to create such prosperity (while ensuring that THEY – as leaders, aren’t effected)
    
    Declare that their policies work.
    
    Move off-shore to a tax haven (or the UN) when the ‘Grateful citizens’ don’t show the expected appreciation…
    
    Live ‘happily ever after’ on their ill-gotten gains.
    
    There are precedents…
    
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    October 10, 2018 2:58pm
secondcumming

The missus was just saying when she caught sight of these two on *Breakfast* this morning, they made her skin crawl…..

https://twitter.com/jacktame/status/1049759674680012801
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October 10, 2018 1:34pm
krazykiwi

Government Tree Deficit has clocked over 99,909,000, closing on on 100 million.

100 million failed virtue signals.

All talk. No truth. No leadership.
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October 10, 2018 1:52pm
Ross12

So now it is official

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/09/the-good-censor-leaked-google-briefing-admits-abandonment-of-free-speech-for-safety-and-civility/
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October 10, 2018 2:01pm
wiseowl

Hamilton Council have continued with the race based division in our once fine country.
Murri appointees made to committees.
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October 10, 2018 2:08pm
Jack5

The diversity dividends continue …

Female passenger claims taxi driver sexually assaults her, and he flees the country. There had been an earlier complaint about him.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/107646090/taxi-driver-quits-country-after-female-passenger-reports-sexual-assault
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October 10, 2018 2:18pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  I personally find it blackly comical that while the #metoo women are crying rape about drunken one night stands with their White peers, foreigners with names like Vahab Asgari are actually raping them but without the MSM outrage and political furore.
  
  Refugees welcome❗
  
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  October 10, 2018 3:06pm
  - stephieboy
    
    But not the example of this notorious sadistic white South African paedophile,?
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10009969
    
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    October 10, 2018 3:29pm
    - starboard
      
      Or this filthy raghead. Why is he still in NZ ??
      Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11837608
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:16pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      It’s not ‘either/or’, Stuffit. Decent people despise all rapists.
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Classical Liberal, I don’t believe that was the point Jack 5 and had EAD TWO, and starboard were making.
        
        Especially the latter two! An especial appeal to those who have non-white / European names and skin colours!
        
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        October 10, 2018 6:34pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      hey fuck face, he got 4 years in NZ and 40 in SA. At least Saffas know how to imprison some types. Now goat fuckers get about 5 years In South Africa….
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    Careful EAD! The person you named was the employer, not the cab driver.
    
    Do you want got drag DPF into a libel suit?
    
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    October 10, 2018 8:02pm
Komata

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October 10, 2018 2:59pm
Happychappy

I see the show Pony is not just unhappy with the Fuel Company’s she has announced the Supermarket’s will be next.
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October 10, 2018 3:35pm
- fernglas
  
  So they bloody should be. The cost of supermarket products is absurdly high. The excuses don’t wash. Maybe a look at the cost of building materials wouldn’t do any harm either.
  
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  October 10, 2018 3:53pm
  - mandk
    
    Let’s pitch for a population of 20 million, and then there might be more competition.
    
    What the hell, why not 65 million like the UK or 125 million like Japan? NZ is about the same size as each of them.
    
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    October 10, 2018 4:47pm
    - DigNap15
      
      I agree, that would make up a much more competieve and vibrant country.
      We would have more tv shows, more news, more artists.
      Bigger companies, more scale.
      Better bargaining power when buying.
      Better transport.
      Better roads.
      
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      October 10, 2018 5:03pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Let’s pitch for a population of 20 million, and then there might be more competition.
      
      What the hell, why not 65 million like the UK or 125 million like Japan? NZ is about the same size as each of them
      
      Does the same philosophy apply for your beloved Israel Mandk or is it just White countries you want to derancinate?
      
      If Israel let in 10 million rocket scientists from Africa instead of shipping these invaders off to White Countries, imagine how vibrant and enriched they’d be due to the increased “competition”.
      
      https://www.jpost.com/National-News/Eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-Israel-to-Sweden-337414
      
      Africans after all according to (((Bloomberg))), are some of the smartest people going ?
      
      https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-16/let-in-more-africans-if-you-want-educated-immigrants
      
      Hypocrisy much?
      
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      October 10, 2018 7:01pm
    - Jack5
      
      NZ hasn’t been able to export enough to pay its way in the world for 40 or more years.
      
      Boosting the population to 10 million without finding new ways to earn overseas funds would reduce the country to the state of Nicaragua.
      
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      October 10, 2018 8:00pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    The cost of steel. We have a place called Glenbrooke that makes the shit
    
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    October 10, 2018 5:48pm
    - nasska
      
      Glenbrook is owned by BHP. There’s no way we’ll pay less than Aussie prices & given it’s a near monopoly, probably a lot more.
      
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      October 10, 2018 6:03pm
DigNap15

Ardern just did a survey on Petrol prices.
She drove past two service stations and found different prices.
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October 10, 2018 5:25pm
- Inandout
  
  She was on the way to the supermarket to get Neve some more disposable nappies, and a dummy for Clarke. Government car of course, probably using tax free petrol.
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:26pm
  - rangitoto
    
    She avoids having to pay RUC by driving her electric car and gets to laugh at the plebs who can’t afford a brand new Tesla.
    
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    October 10, 2018 6:55pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Sent the driver in for some almond milk. Famous Clarke would not want to get mobbed by the solo mothers
    
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    October 10, 2018 7:25pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Might be Emirates Trolly Dollies around…..
      
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      October 10, 2018 11:13pm
Hugh Pavletich

“Never Been Worse” – China’s (Non-Government) Business Survey Collapses As Trade War Strikes | Zero Hedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-09/never-been-worse-chinas-non-government-business-survey-collapses-trade-war-strikes

As China returns from its Golden Week vacation, it is not just its currency and stock market that is collapsing…

As Bloomberg reports, an indicator produced by a Beijing-based business school in the style of the closely-watched purchasing managers index plunged last month, adding to concerns about the slowing economy and raising the question of whether business conditions may be worse than official statistics show. … read more via hyperlink above …

Alternative China PMI Gauge Says Business `Has Never Been Worse’ – Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/alternative-china-pmi-gauge-says-business-has-never-been-worse?__twitter_impression=true
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October 10, 2018 5:37pm
- Inandout
  
  Returning from the Golden Shower vacation? Anyway, I would not like to mess with Trump in any business dealings. He is a winner and is not hampered by communist ideology.
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:23pm
Fletch

I just saw 1 News. Now they are trying to spin the story that business confidence changes depending on who is in power, and it is only low now because the Labour party is in. 😆

Do they really expect us to buy that?
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October 10, 2018 6:09pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Yes, they do.
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:21pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  They’re not going to cry, are they?
  This just PROVES they know nothing about business.
  When it comes to business, WE business owners don’t CARE who is in govt.
  We ONLY care about what they do.
  Raise taxes
  increase regulation
  Attack us in the MSM using your position of privilege.
  Then yes we HATE you, far more than a lack of confidence…WHY
  Because you are impacting, negatively, our ability to earn money, pay our bills, bring up our families and generally conduct our lives as WE feel.
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:53pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    It’s great that fuel stations and supermarkets are going to voluntarily forego their profit margins for fear that Jacinda will frown at them because she’s hugely disappointed.
    Then landlords and all other merchants will drop their prices and sing kumbaya as they pay increased wages and more taxes, and bicycle everywhere so Jacinda and Jethro can raise their child in a perfect world.
    
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    October 10, 2018 11:41pm
- waikatogirl
  
  They think business is so politically partisan that is the reason for low business confidence. It has nothing to do with the COL’s crap policies?? ?
  
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  October 10, 2018 7:26pm
- KevOB
  
  Funny how prices are being adjusted globally. Do the COL have some magical avoidance routine?
  
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  October 10, 2018 8:55pm
sooty

Wellingtons wanky mare says the insurance company will pay for the Lying Len fibreglass pole! I wonder if the insurance company will hit the wanker up for the cost to replace it?
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October 10, 2018 6:10pm
- DigNap15
  
  So that is all of us through our insurance premiums!
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:21pm
  - sooty
    
    He has to be a mare as he has no nuts!
    
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    October 10, 2018 10:38pm
nasska

The wets & the wankers of the Herald are at it again. Headline reads, “Anne Hathaway’s heartwarming photo with Jacinda Ardern and baby Neve”

Fail! I just checked the temperature of my chest cavity & it’s exactly the same as it was a week ago.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12138073
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October 10, 2018 6:30pm
- Inandout
  
  ‘Praise her, praise her, praise the everlasting mother’.
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:51pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Wait till Christmas, they’ll be asking us to believe she is the reincarnation of the Christ child.
    
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    October 10, 2018 6:54pm
    - Longknives
      
      A Nativity scene photoshoot perhaps? (At the Taxpayer’s expense of course…)
      
      Imagine Jacinda beaming over little Neve-While Gayford smirks and sups his Almond Milk in the background.
      The Three Wise Men are arriving on their Camels- It’s Andrew Little, Grant Robertson and Phil Twyford…
      
      Christ it’s making me want to puke…I can’t even continue
      
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      October 10, 2018 7:14pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        “A Nativity scene photoshoot perhaps?”
        
        She wouldn’t dare…
        
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        October 10, 2018 7:35pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  FFS Are there no cats up trees. Not a single one?
  The Hathaway meeting was 26 Sep – two weeks ago.
  
  Was that woolly sheep in Te Kuiti not exciting enough? I mean – a woolly sheep in Te Kuiti – who knew that could even happen!
  
  I don’t read the Herald. It’s too much like having a conversation with my elderly mum. Sadly these days she’s on a four minute continuous loop.
  Same old, over and over … and none of it relevant to anything.
  
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  October 10, 2018 11:30pm
Lucia Maria

Daylight Saving is still messing me up.

Even with waking up at the proper time I’m still an hour out all day.

And then can’t fall asleep at night.

In effect, I’ve lost an hour’s sleep or more every day since the change kicked in.
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October 10, 2018 6:53pm
- wiseowl
  
  I’m with you Lucia.
  Don’t know why but this year just can not get going and still working on old time in effect.
  Stuff Dunne and Barker and co extending the change.
  
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  October 10, 2018 7:25pm
Left Right and Centre

The idiots at stuff . . .

The things that you put goods to transport on are called pallets, not ‘pellets’.

And it says this poor woman died under either a pile of timber or a stack of pallets. Which one is it ?
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October 10, 2018 6:54pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Since it is “stuff”
  Maybe it was under a stack of “reporters” err I mean “Pillochs”
  
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  October 10, 2018 6:56pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Can you not find much to moan about today, LRC?
  
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  October 10, 2018 7:27pm
nasska

I wanted to test out religious tolerance in NZ so first I stood outside a Church dressed as a Roman soldier & nobody cared.

Then I went to a synagogue dressed a Hitler……they were quite cross & told me to leave politely, but firmly.

And then, nine kilometres from my nearest Mosque, I had a Bacon sandwich.
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October 10, 2018 7:53pm
Fletch

Now Jacinda thinks she can target Foodstuffs and Countdown because of their high food prices. Who the hell does she think she is?

For one thing, the price of groceries is rising because of the rise in fuel costs due to her govt’s taxing. For the other thing, who the hell is she to dictate to private businesses what they can and cannot charge?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/food-prices-could-be-next-after-fuel-price-crackdown-jacinda-ardern.html
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October 10, 2018 9:46pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes she can.
  They do in Venezuela
  They regulate the price of toilet paper
  Then there is none as the retailers don’t want to sell it at a loss
  
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  October 10, 2018 9:52pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yeh, too right. That’s the problem with price controls. It is not a good idea.
    
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    October 10, 2018 9:57pm
Hugh Pavletich

Why you have (probably) already bought your last car … Justin Rowlett … BBC News

Posted at … (h/t Stephen Morris, MB thread) https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/10/macro-afternoon-505/#comment-3200939 … and …

Why you have (probably) already bought your last car … Justin Rowlett … BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45786690

I’m guessing you are scoffing in disbelief at the very suggestion of this article, but bear with me.

A growing number of tech analysts are predicting that in less than 20 years we’ll all have stopped owning cars, and, what’s more, the internal combustion engine will have been consigned to the dustbin of history.

Yes, it’s a big claim and you are right to be sceptical, but the argument that a unique convergence of new technology is poised to revolutionise personal transportation is more persuasive than you might think.

The central idea is pretty simple: Self-driving electric vehicles organised into an Uber-style network will be able to offer such cheap transport that you’ll very quickly – we’re talking perhaps a decade – decide you don’t need a car any more. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 10, 2018 9:50pm
The Heat

Idiocracy look like high culture compared to this:

https://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/why-jack-and-matty-can-never-host-together/

Moronic media hits moronic low. Lower than humanly possible.
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October 10, 2018 9:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  The Heat, why do you take this crass salacious tabloid, womens mag stuff seriously?
  
  https://spy.nzherald.co.nz
  
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  October 10, 2018 10:12pm
- DigNap15
  
  Another reason not to watch TV1
  
  I used to like Jack Tame but now realise that he is an extreme left wing socialist and I do not like our state owned tv station pushing a gay agenda to our young children.
  
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  October 11, 2018 7:25am
Manolo

Once a very important name in American retail:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sears-hires-advisers-to-prepare-bankruptcy-filing-1539136189
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