General Debate 5 September 2018

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Comment471

Uncategorized
General Debate

Comments (471)

Login to comment or vote

tas

An interesting letter to the editor defending the Maori and PI entrance to medical school:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/most-read-m-ori-doc-hits-back-insulting-inferences-ethnicity-only-reason-got-doctor

It starts off with the usual nonsense assertion that those who oppose racial discrimination are uneducated racists.
Then it becomes quite extraordinary:

She argues that her grades were just as good as, if not better than, non-Maori medical students.
Then she complains about people who assume that she had an easier time getting into medical school.

I’m sorry, but aren’t these arguments against having Maori/PI entry? How are they being used to defend it?

She is effectively saying that she doesn’t need the Maori entry pathway — so why keep it?
Then she says that the Maori entry pathway actually hurts her, because it devalues her qualification. So, wouldn’t it be better to scrap it so that people know every doctor passed the same hurdle?

It’s astounding what passes as logic these days, even amongst highly-educated people like doctors!
57 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:01am
- Scott
  
  The difficulty of these racial things is that if Maori are getting in on different schemes with lower marks than everyone else then that causes problems. People will naturally wonder of a Maori doctor – is this person qualified?
  There should be no letting people into medical school based on race. Merit should be the only criteria.
  
  51 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:07am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Scott, the issue of access for Maori/PI to Med Scool (a with some other courses) is one thing, but what becomes important is what their levels of attainment are once they are studying for the degree proper.
    
    19 5
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:13am
    - tas
      
      hullkiwi: The issue is that getting into med school is the hardest part. Once you get in, the assumption is that you will graduate. Of course, it’s not guaranteed, but you sort of have to drop the ball to fail.
      
      22 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:24am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      what becomes important is what their levels of attainment are once they are studying
      
      No. That’s not all that matters. What about the non-Maori who missed out so a Maori with lower grades could get in? We will never know what their level of attainment would have been.
      
      42 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:33am
      - Harkman
        
        “What about the non-Maori who missed out so a Maori with lower grades could get in?”
        
        What happens is, we die! ?
        
        20 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 8:57am
      - kowtow
        
        That is what is being deliberately glossed over. And that is what creates , rightly, the resentment among the students who have missed out.
        They are victims of racism. But that’s ok cos honkey was and is so nasty to brown people.
        
        ‘”I think the way people frame that is, ‘oh you’re Māori so you get this’, and it’s like, well, if I could trade off for the years of shit health, and the stuff my whanau have had to face, and all the shit that my ancestors have put up with then I would.’
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/university-of-otago/maori-medical-students-it-was-just-blatant-racism
        
        14 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:03am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Nigel, I agree with you, the discriminatory nature of such a regime does result in non-Maori/PI students not being offered places at Med School and for that matter on other degree courses, exactly that happened to my brother in trying to do a BArch degree at Auckland. He attained better grades in his intermediate course than a female Maori student. She was offered the place and dropped out part way into year 1.
        
        tas, I think you’ll find it more myth than reality, that once you are into Med School you are assured a degree at the end. Any Medical School worth its status cannot allow for its degrees to be considered “gimmies”, otherwise any international reputation would flow straight down the drain. Maybe things have changed?
        
        11 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:43am
      - tas
        
        hullkiwi:
        
        tas, I think you’ll find it more myth than reality, that once you are into Med School you are assured a degree at the end. Any Medical School worth its status cannot allow for its degrees to be considered “gimmies”, otherwise any international reputation would flow straight down the drain. Maybe things have changed?
        
        I’m not saying med school is easy. But getting in is intense cut-throat competition. And, in comparison to that, it’s pretty relaxed. You go from needing to get straight A+s to just needing to pass.
        
        6 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:03am
      - GazzaW
        
        Looking around my local medical centres and dental practises and I see a preponderance of Chinese professionals all with NZ degrees. No quotas for them, just a propensity for hard work and success in their fields which is how it should be.
        
        18 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:08am
      - Tall Man
        
        It’s not just the easier entry path, ask about the “Maori only” pre exam tutorials with last year’s paper open for explanation. Even with that extra assistance they still require and easier path so why bother trying too hard. The next thing to look at is the dropout rate of Maori compared with Asian or European New Zealanders.
        
        0 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:41am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Scott , so far no reports of patients dying or suffering from Maori Doctors consultations.
    
    1 49
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:44am
    - Harkman
      
      Hang on Ralph, every year a report comes out comparing our health system unfavourably with other similar countries (shorter cancer longevity, higher surgical errors). So perhaps you spoke too soon.
      
      21 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:01am
    - igm
      
      goatshagger: I hope you have made it clear you will only be treated by one of these quacks!
      
      10 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:46am
    - Tall Man
      
      Maybe because all poor doctors bury their mistakes!
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 10:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Hypothetically, if a student is 1/8th Maori and thus qualifies as a Maori, then (if we assume that IQ is genetic) are their “smarts” actually of 7/8th non-Maori origin?
    
    If we don’t have an empirically measurable definition of “Maori” then how is a scholarship to some blue-eyed, pale-skinned maiden of 1/16th Ngai Tahu even fair?
    
    With the Pacific Islanders, I think the number of “100% pure juice in my veins” Polynesians would be much higher and verifiable through church and State records.
    
    17 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:05am
    - Jack5
      
      Odakyu-sen is right.
      
      The relatively sparse South Island Maori began intermarrying with white whalers and sealers before the Treaty of Waitangi, and intermarriage was common, even popular, in the century and a half after that.
      
      Tens of thousands can now claim membership of the Ngai Tahu tribe, some of as little as one thirty-second Maori descent.
      
      Ngai Tahu has invested wisely its huge Treaty settlements (there have been a number),. and now its businesses operate free of company tax, thanks to group charity registration.
      
      The help that, in my opinion, is needed and just for people such as the Ngapuhi, of Northland, looks less fair when available to so many southerners.
      
      6 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 11:03am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I disagree. Let Maori in on lower grades. Let them pass with inferior grades. And make sure they work in Maori communities. However, I for one won’t go to a Maori Doctor, ever. Now some of you may say that’s racist. That’s fine, I’d rather be racist and alive than all kumbaya cuddly and dead.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 7:25pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I read the letter. As I see it her most compelling point is that Maori patients prefer to be seen by a Maori doctor. If true, surely the solution is to overcome that racist attitude, not to mirror it in the entrance program. It reminds me of a scene in “The best exotic marigold hotel” where one of the retirees asks to be seen by an “English” doctor and is shocked when an Asian turns up.
  
  As an aside, the rural entry scheme is equally ridiculous as there is no requirement for them to work in a rural area after graduation and little evidence that they do so.
  
  38 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:17am
  - Paulus
    
    How do you know today who is a Maori Doctor ?
    Is it on your medical records that you only want to see a Maori Doctor – the fact that somebody will have to enquire where there is one and is that Docotor available and ready to treat a Maori patient – she/he could be bleeding to death but there is not one to be found !
    
    17 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:33am
    - tas
      
      I suspect it’s more of a vague feeling than something scientific. The university wants to do something to improve Maori health outcomes and making it easier for Maori to become doctors feels good.
      
      19 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:39am
  - Scott
    
    “Maori prefer to be seen by a Maori doctor”.
    I don’t really see that as a strong point?
    
    Let’s flip the argument. “White people prefer to be seen by a white doctor.”
    
    Would you be ok with that?
    
    36 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:58am
    - tas
      
      Even more offensively:
      I prefer my doctors to be petite young women. Otago Med School, can you help me out? 😛
      
      10 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:28am
      - sooty
        
        With big tits!
        
        7 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 12:24pm
- Gulag1917
  
  Having different standards for different people will not change [doctors often Google for solutions to a medical complaint] so we may as well accept the situation. It is when specialists eg heart surgeons have lower entry standards it becomes a real problem.
  
  0 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:03am
krazykiwi

Here’s a Labour government broadcast by The Herald.

The Business Confidence index is dropping like a stone, and hiring intentions are similarly going south. So now’s a perfect time to publish a piece which proudly states Jobs tempt more young Kiwis into leaving school without University Entrance.

The 1.5% increase in employment of youth was when? 2017 of course. Well before Labour, at the direction of their union masters, started attacking our productive SMB sector, while setting wage inflation expectations ablaze.
38 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:01am
Longknives

This revolting Ardern woman has hit a new low in using her Baby as a Political tool!
I thought ordering kids to sing for her at the Airport was tacky and disturbing but this ‘Kid’s Book’ about baby Neve is fucking twisted and sick- Has there ever been a more blatant piece of Propaganda in New Zealand Political History? (Jacinda looks smiling and angelic while Judith Collins is portrayed as a wicked witch etc etc) Check out the Stuff comments- People are so over this baby nonsense…And Stuff is a Left Wing rag!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/106800942/pm-jacinda-ardern-clarke-gayford-and-baby-neve-star-in-new-kids-book

Ardern and Labour blatantly using that baby makes me puke.
That poor,poor Kid…
67 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:03am
- holysheet
  
  Jethros mate Kevin said, “I like your flash boat.”
  Jethro said, “It’s not very practical now we’ve got a baaybee.”
  Kevin replied, “How about I buy it off you.”
  Jethro said, “Yeah go on then. Four grand?”
  Kevin said, “You’ve got yourself a deal.”
  Jethro said, “Nice one… you’re going to make a brilliant dad.”
  
  36 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:08am
- cmm
  
  I for one encourage them to double down. If that does not work then triple-down.
  
  The thicker they lay this shit on the people the more the people will be exposed to what they really are and the longer it will live in peoples’ memories.
  
  That is good, it means we might be rid of these buggers for a good long time.
  
  41 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:09am
- MCos
  
  Simon hits back!
  https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/parenting/family/simon-bridges-admits-its-a-challenge-juggling-family-and-career-38909
  
  7 12
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:39am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yeah, a politically inept move from Bridges. He’s just playing in to the COL’s hands on the work/family topic.
    
    13 8
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:46am
    - MCos
      
      They all do it
      
      1 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:33am
- RF
  
  Longknives….
  
  I am sure a psychiatrist would have the correct diagnosis to describe the actions of our claytons PM and her offsider.
  
  However my diagnosis is separation anxiety disorder in relation to their sycophant connection with the media and public. They need their daily fix otherwise these turkeys go cold turkey.
  
  That poor poor Kid being brought up in a dysfunctional family environment.
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:03am
Scott

Why do those of us on the right think there is a double standard of justice when it comes to Donald Trump? Even the department of justice seems hopelessly biased and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has no control over the justice department.

The best example is the incredibly different standards of treatment that law enforcement has given Donald Trump when compared to Hillary Clinton.

Upon attaining office Republicans launched 3 investigations against the president from their own party. The house, the senate and then the special counsel all launched investigations looking for Trump collusion with Russia to win the election.

The special counsel has treated the president of the United States like a mob boss. His former campaign chairman was raided in the early hours of the morning and he is facing a lifetime in prison. His lawyer was again given the no knock raid treatment and is not being prosecuted but only in exchange for digging up dirt on Trump. The investigation still goes on despite no evidence of actual collusion between Trump and Russia.

Meanwhile over at team Hillary she is continuing to walk free and unmolested by law enforcement despite having all her emails when she served as secretary of state on a private server in her basement. She broke all the rules by not using the encrypted government server. This week it is reported that the Chinese hacked her private server! This presumably means that all of America’s state secrets that would have passed through Hillary’s hands are now in the possession of the Chinese government!

Why is that woman not facing charges? And why is the president of the USA still being persecuted despite no crime and no evidence of collusion?

These are the widely disparate treatments that the department of justice is handing out and Jeff Sessions is in charge and allowing this to go on. Trump has every reason to be frustrated and want to replace his attorney General.
41 8
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:04am
- tas
  
  Are you seriously still harping on about Hillary Clinton’s emails? Is that the best distraction the Trump apologists can come up with?
  
  17 46
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:09am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    He’s just warming up. Next comment: “Benghaaaazi!!!”
    
    14 42
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:15am
    - Harkman
      
      Hey Mike, you do know that 4 people were let down badly and killed in Benghazi?
      
      26 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:05am
    - kowtow
      
      Is that where Hilary dodged sniper bullets ?
      
      Nope that was her lying about arriving at Tuzla airbase , Bosnia.
      
      28 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:11am
      - RF
        
        kowtow.
        
        That’s when I first heard the expression……
        
        “I misspoke”.
        
        7 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 11:07am
  - G152
    
    People have this tendency to remember occasions when the law is broken and nothing is done about it
    
    39 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:16am
    - tas
      
      Things were done about it. There was a big investigation. The FBI labelled her negligent. Clinton’s career is over, partly because of this.
      
      Yet somehow Trump’s apologists are so desperate to distract that they are dredging up this old story.
      
      8 34
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:36am
      - Simon
        
        “There was a big investigation”
        
        ha ha ha ha ha ha
        
        30 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 8:55am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        You are right that Clinton is a sideshow. But (whether you agree or not) there is a widespread perception on the right that she broke the law repeatedly (and she did clearly break the law repeatedly over handling of classified emails), and was highly corrupt in her pay-for-play fundraising activities while secretary of state, her right hand was signing off on arms deals for shithole countries while her left hand was pocketing huge donations to the Clinton Foundation from these same governments.
        
        It is very corrosive for the rule of law that she as one of the elite has escaped prosecution for any of this.
        
        Trump ultimately presents the same rule-of-law problem to the left, but I think we can be more sure that he will eventually be prosecuted for something given the vast resources arrayed against him. And he probably deserves it given all of his long career of dodgy dealings.
        
        5 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:06am
  - Scott
    
    Well the new fact is that the Chinese government saw all the emails of the secretary of state of the USA. China is their Number 1 global rival. And the most sensitive state secrets of the nation cross the desk of the secretary of state. And China hacked her private server and read all her emails.
    That is a huge deal and if Hillary was not a Clinton she would be in serious legal jeopardy right now. Anyone else would be in jail.
    
    29 6
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:23am
    - tas
      
      Where are you getting this “fact” from?
      
      6 25
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:28am
      - Scott
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/29/clintons-emails-were-hacked-by-china-trump-says-in-tweet-appears-to-call-for-investigation.html&ved=2ahUKEwjI7uOkn6LdAhWXFogKHWtTD0c4ChAWMAd6BAgDEAE&usg=AOvVaw0Lc7z81kayZtojsHRBGLeq
        
        16 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:02am
    - Simon
      
      Everyone’s got Hillary’s emails.
      
      Problem is that Zero emailed her on the private server. Cant take out Hillary she will take out the Magical Negro would be a disaster.
      
      Will know by end of October.
      
      20 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:59am
      - Fletch
        
        Yep, and Obama used a fake name/email address. Why do that if everything was on the up-and-up?
        
        11 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:04am
    - gump
      
      @Scott
      
      The FBI issued a public statement saying that the story you linked is completely fake and that there is no evidence that China accessed Clinton’s emails.
      
      Should we trust thousands of hardworking, dedicated, and patriotic FBI agents or a desperate and flailing President?
      
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fbi-hillary-clinton-email-server-china-hack-contradict-a8513581.html
      
      0 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:04pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        The FBI have shown themselves as politically biased and completely untrustworthy.
        
        2 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:28pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Sure we are:
    EMail………she broke the law
    Bengahzi…4 men died
    Uranium 1
    Pay for play
    Clinton foundation (Charity HAHAHAHA)
    
    33 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:43am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Where did you get those factoids from?
      
      2 36
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:00am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Do your own research
        And open your mind
        
        9 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:28am
  - The Right One
    
    Has it be resolved . has Hillary been charged? NO ..so carry on talking about it please.
    
    0 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 6, 2018 9:46am
- KevOB
  
  I am watching the swamp for drainage signs. The more the Special Prosecutor plucks out reeds the more he disturbs the undergrowth. He is going to have to be extra careful not to encounter the “big one”.
  
  The Inspector General is a free roaming auditor who has been alerted with his own shot gun team. Also Congressional committees are now looking at what has been disturbed too so hoping to spot any crocs. The swamp people teams are on standby.
  
  It make take another two years before they have taken their quota. Those critters come with slimy parasites making capture difficult.
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:51am
- Batman
  
  “Seems hopelessly biased” – that is because the Trump campaign was crooked as anything. We will see the full picture in due course.
  
  “Sessions has no control” – correct, he’s compromised on Russia and is also unwilling or unable to temper Trump’s damaging behaviour which is compromising the argument against the investigations (which was thin to begin with).
  
  “incredibly different standards” – what different standards? Clinton was investigated over a period of months by the FBI, and was cleared as the case didn’t meet the threshold for prosecution (no proof she had intent to compromise classified material rather than just negligence) and was labelled by Comey as “extremely negligent”, something which Dems raged about and Republicans loved. Then the investigation was re-opened two weeks before election day when several hundred thousand more emails from the beginning of her time as Sec of State were found on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. She was subsequently cleared again just two days before election day.
  
  The long and short of the email story is that there is no prosecutable case, and you guys need to suck it up. With regard to the Chinese hacking claim, I’ll withhold judgement until something more than a DailyCaller article shows up quoting those anonymous sources that Trump hates so much.
  
  “the special counsel has treated the president like a mob boss” – that is because Trump is using the exact same tactics and behaviours used by La Cosa Nostra aka the mob. He creates an environment of silent assent by those around him, and attempts to develop relationships based on pledges of loyalty. He tried it with Comey by inviting him to a private dinner and then later saying “I’ve been loyal to you, we had that thing” when he asked Comey “I hope you can see your way to letting this thing go” re the Russia investigation.
  
  Trump does the same with Cohen and Manafort. Manafort goes down and he praises him as a loyal brother. Cohen pleads guilty to crimes and suddenly goes from “my personal lawyer and a long time friend” to a scumbag who snitched. It is all very la cosa nostra – “this thing of ours,” in which loyalty is the most important thing. Even over the rule of law and upholding democracy.
  
  “no crime and no evidence of collusion” – two parts to this. His own tweets in the last 48 hours may well be obstruction of justice charge-worthy, and he’s certainly a co-conspirator to making an illegal campaign finance payment (Stormy Daniels).
  
  Now “collusion” – this is a longer game. There is no specific collusion crime per se, but you can be charged with “conspiracy to collude with a foreign agent”. It will take some time for the investigation to wind its way to a finishing point, it has started by establishing a base point of Manafort being guilty of hiding lobbying relationships with foreign agents, and Cohen guilty of campaign finance crimes.
  
  Mueller is a Republican who worse a crisp white shirt to work every day for the 12 years he was FBI director. He doesn’t seem like someone to take shortcuts.
  
  Finally, you say “Trump has every reason to be frustrated and want to replace his attorney General.” – well, that frustration may well be borne out of a reality that the Trump campaign did whatever it could to win the election, and that may well have included accepting assistance from the Russian government (a meeting about ‘child adoption’ / dirt on Clinton, anyone?). Trying to have Sessions stop the investigation will only make Trump look worse, as James Comey himself pointed out to him when asked to stop the investigation in early 2017, and actually firing Sessions will cause a crisis which Trump would likely not recover from.
  
  If Trump did nothing wrong, which seems a stretch, he has no reason to be getting twitchy and trying to shut the whole thing down.
  
  Who is most likely to try and shut down an investigation? an innocent person, or a guilty one?
  
  Also, if it was Hillary Clinton who received help from the Russians, got elected, demanded loyalty from the FBI director, pressured the AG to stop an investigation, and called an investigation into her “a rigged witch hunt”, I suspect several KBers would be out for blood…. you already are, but yet Trump is A-ok? sure thing…
  
  2 12
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:23am
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    I can’t be bothered checking, having mostly lost interest in this tedious business, but IIRC: Comey wrote an initial exoneration long before the investigation into Clinton was completed; intent is not necessary to prosecute Clinton; Comey’s own speech of exoneration revealed clear evidence of her guilt; most of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were not examined – just a selection; Clinton’s associates were interviewed in the presence of other potentially guilty parties; no notes were taken during Clinton’s interview; Clinton and her aide are both now know to have lied.
    
    As for Mueller, plenty of Republicans loathe Trump also. Enter Mueller + anthrax in your search engine for a negative take on him.
    
    None of this is a defence of Trump or a comment one way or the other on collusion – just a recognition that there is a double standard of justice and plenty of evidence of bias.
    
    Almost certainly Clinton will not be prosecuted because, as someone else has already noted, Obama would be also implicated.
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:08pm
cmm

Enough of this white colonial guilt!

Let’s be clear, once and for all, that Westernism, particularly the British variety, is the best thing that has happened to people in the history of humanity. Without it, the vast majority of the world would not exist and those that did would be starving and living in a state of perpetual warfare.

Sure there have been a few fumbles, and some colonialists (eg. the Belgians) were not up to snuff, but the Brits have been a force for good in the world over the last 300 or so years. For every pain they might have caused, they have given a hundred fold of gain.

They achieved that by rolling out good governance, law and order and property rights without which no society can flourish. People could stop worrying about being attacked by the next village and could direct their efforts into more fruitful pursuits. It was worth improving things because someone else would not just take them.

They also disseminated agriculture, medicine, water, education a written language and engineering. Things that allow societies to boom.

The foundation to all this is a strong value set that encompasses compassion, duty and a curious nature to discover and improve things. In many ways that is what underpins everything.

We see that in Africa. They think they have all they need from the colonialists and boot them out. However they lack those values and everything slides quickly into ruin.
61 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:04am
- Kabull
  
  Spot on, CMM. There is another element to this, and that is how modernists try so hard to judge the actions of our forebears through modern eyes and standards. I have no doubt that the majority of ‘colonial’ administrators did what they did in the genuine belief that they were helping – particularly in less advanced area such as Africa.
  
  I wonder how our so-called ‘enlightened’ actions of today will look to our descendants in 100 – 150 years? By the standards of that future period, we will no doubt be heavily criticized for things that we would never regard as ‘wrong’ – whatever those actions might be!
  
  It is disingenuous to attempt to judge historical actions by the standards of today, when those actions were regarded as normal and accepted. No matter that they might, to our eyes, appear callous or unacceptable.
  
  Not to mention how an Islamist-dominated society in 100 years will judge the historical actions of a suppressed and vanishing Christian people. Look no further than modern Europe.
  
  39 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:45am
  - cmm
    
    Certainly we should not judge our ancestors by today’s rules and norms.
    
    When my grandmother was a girl in Canada, the kids would go and help with the seal clubbing. When I was a kid we fed our pets whale meat. Maybe in 50 years time people will be arrested for cruelty to soy beans.
    
    But even from today’s perspective we can look back at the last 200 years and see what amazing progress and wealth has been created the world over by Westernisation.
    
    Of course, it is only sustained by the right value set and it can all be dashed on the rocks in a generation or two. Just look at the Persian, Chinese and Indian empires of 2000+ years ago. They were booming and advancing, then somehow managed to plunge themselves back into the dark ages. It would be naive to think the same loss of direction cannot happen to us. Looking at Europe etc, it looks like it has started already!
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:49pm
- SGA
  
  Can’t say that I feel any “white guilt” (I wasn’t there, and I take no personal responsibility for my ancestors), but some of what you say is a very romantic idea of colonisation.
  
  Without it, the vast majority of the world would not exist and those that did would be starving and living in a state of perpetual warfare.
  
  Of course the vast majority of the world would still “exist”. It would be different that’s all. Asia, the Americas, Africa, the Pacific would still “exist”.
  In terms of perpetual warfare, that’s not a bad description of the last 1000 years in Europe. The last, short, 70 years of relatively peaceful European co-existence is the exception, not the rule. Heavens, one of the driving forces of colonisation was a frantic rush to build a bigger and better empire than your neighbour. I’d guess that greater economic interdependence and the threat of the “bomb” are the glue now holding Europe together rather than any inherent peacefulness.
  Starvation? Colonisation didn’t prevent widespread starvation – most of the societies, although less technologically advanced, were comfortably self sufficient before Europeans arrived. Sure there may have been occasional famines, but had been happening in Europe too until relatively recently (e.g., Ireland).
  
  They also disseminated agriculture, medicine, water, education a written language and engineering. Things that allow societies to boom.
  
  Mixed bag
  Medicine – at the time that most colonisation took place, European medicine wasn’t that much more advanced than that already there, was it? The colonisers brought more disease than cures.
  Water? They had water – sufficient for their needs. Perhaps not for the need of the colonisers.
  These societies were functional, cmm, they weren’t “saved” by the colonisers. The main benefit was a very rapid exposure to new technologies (though much of that has been developed throughout the world since colonisation.
  Colonisation was driven towards economic and political ends, the welfare of the people already there was a secondary consideration.
  
  I have a generally more cynical view of humanity in general than you, I guess.
  
  3 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:16am
  - cmm
    
    I’m not sure where this dream world you are thinking of was. Which country are you thinking of?
    
    I think you have a very romantic notion of the “noble savage”.
    
    Sure Westerners did introduce some diseases, and diseases were picked up by Westerners. That’s what happens when two populations meet for the first time.
    
    Sure Westerners have had their wars (and will likely have more). But that’s still nowhere near what was happening in Africa and elsewhere. Most of the world (eg. Africa) had very little in the way of true law and order and it really was just every man (or village) for themselves.
    
    Sure there have been a few famines in Europe (mainly caused by communism) and Ireland is a stand-out in the last 250 or so years and that happened about 170 years ago! Famines in Africa were routine (and still would be in post-colonial “liberated” Africa except for foreign aid). Trying to equate one famine in 250-odd years to something that was every second year or so is disingenuous.
    
    In the 1800s, just before the arrival of the Brits in the area, the Zulu wiped out or displaced around half the people living in in South Africa in the Mfecane. Pretty good batting average for a team without basic technology like the wheel, maps and other tools of the trade.
    
    The Xhosa managed to protect themselves from the Mfecane, but a few years later 30% died in a famine.
    
    Nothing like that has happened in the 200 years since then.
    
    Maori pa sites on hills overlooking the valleys and oceans were not selected for their stunning sunset views, but to keep a good eye open for the buggers from the next village over coming to steal everything.
    
    People in colonised Africa (or New Zealand) no longer select their properties based on whether it is a good defense site.
    
    “Colonisation was driven towards economic and political ends, the welfare of the people already there was a secondary consideration.”
    
    Sorry I must disagree. Huge effort was put into improving the lot of the people. My own grandfather spent years in Namibia mostly going from tribe to tribe in an oxwagon to help broker peace. There was nothing in it for the Brits.
    
    The British installed hospitals, rail, roads and schools and universities. Some of those (eg roads) helped for extracting resources, but others were purely for the benefit of the people. Many of those projects were undertaken in areas of zero commercial benefit to the Brits (eg. the Transkei and Zululand areas in South Africa and many areas in Kenya etc).
    
    Around 1900, the British poured massive resources into North East Africa to stamp out the Arabian slave trade. Nothing in it for them. What did the Brits gain from stopping Africans being enslaved by the Arabs?
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:30pm
    - SGA
      
      cmm
      
      I’m not sure where this dream world you are thinking of was. Which country are you thinking of?
      
      I’m not sure what you mean? Sorry. African, Asian, American, Pacific societies were functional – dysfunctional societies (e.g., Easter Island) disappeared. Starvation – the early explorers don’t report giving food to starving peoples – they traded for supplies. War – sure – humanity has a history of violence.
      
      I think you have a very romantic notion of the “noble savage”.
      
      Nonsense – I’ve said nothing of the sort. Instead, I have been saying that I think you overplay the ‘noble colonisers’ card.
      
      European colonisation was going on way, way before your grandfather’s time (it was about at its end globally then), and I think it was predominantly for the benefit of the colonisers – driven by economic and political factors far far more than an urge to help one’s fellow man. I’m surprised that you find this such a contentious statement.
      
      Sure Westerners have had their wars (and will likely have more). But that’s still nowhere near what was happening in Africa and elsewhere.
      
      I reckon that the death toll in various national and civil wars over Europe (both nations and civil wars) over the last few hundred years would give the similar figures from Africa over the same period a very good run for their money. We’ve always been good at killing each other. I don’t share your rose-coloured spectacles where my own history is concerned.
      
      As I said, I’m rather cynical where humanity is concerned. I don’t find the whole “our lot wasn’t quite as bad as that lot” sort of argument very convincing.
      
      0 2
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 1:13pm
      - SGA
        
        Sorry about the crappy formatting and typos etc – Had to hurry.
        
        0 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 3:19pm
secondcumming

Heard that screeching *GollyG* being interviewed on ZB while protesting outside the Nigel Farage speaking venue. What a disgrace and embarrasement she is to New Zealand!

It’s people like her that show the pitfalls of allowing economic refugees from third world shit-holes to settle in this wonderful country.

Just saying……
82 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:09am
- igm
  
  Shows the depth of talent in this disgusting CoLaP (Coalition of Leeches and Perverts)!
  
  46 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:16am
- Harkman
  
  Yes deport ‘The Little Iranian Liar” and do it now and take her moron boyfriend Guy Williams with her.
  
  40 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:08am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I like it when you spell pretentious pretend comedian as moron; most apt.
    
    12 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:42am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Golly is anti-democracy
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:29am
Maxx

It’s nice to see Twyford saying that they MUST consult with landlords and tenants. I’m not waiting for the Princess Fairydust to swan in and make a captains call deflecting away from her current bad press.
31 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:12am
Philview

I have noticed the very limited media reporting of Nigel Farage’s visit to New Zealand. I am sure the Government have applied some kind of media blackout lest New Zealanders are exposed to right wing views. There was a brief report on RNZ this morning saying that protesters shouted “Shame” at people going in to see the talk. Golriz Ghahraman saying Farage’s views are abhorrent to New Zealanders and he isn’t welcome here.
Normally the NZ media would be all over an event like this so no doubt there have been more secret meetings (or forgot to put it in the diary).
57 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:13am
- igm
  
  Phil: He is more welcome here than GG and her vile Islamist bogus refugee leeches.
  
  52 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:17am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes, I also heard Golly G on RNZ at 7.00am. What I would like to know from
  Golly G and the rent a mob protesting last night, what is the hate speech that is so abhorrent that Farage is meant to have uttered that is so objectionable?
  
  To my knowledge (and I lived in the UK and witnessed the rise of UKIP), Farage has never openly or publicly spoken in a manner that could be considered hate speech under UK legislation and would give rise to a police investigation let alone a prosecution in the courts.
  
  Golly G should put up or shut up, and stop barking at every passing car in an effort for publicity, and the media would serve Kiwis better by ignoring Golly G and Chloe Swarfega on the grounds neither of them have anything of value to say!
  
  60 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:39am
  - KevOB
    
    They should be put on minimum pay rates with a good behaviour bond as well.
    
    11 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:55am
  - niggly
    
    Notice what RNZ did there? There was nothing from Farage himself played (so the audience are none the wiser about him) but instead a long GG soundbite was played denouncing him as a “racist” (so the audience only get to hear that Farage is a “racist” and have that reinforced by the Greens and MSM)!
    
    Total lack of balance on that reporting.
    
    44 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:08am
    - igm
      
      To think these Red Radio scum survive on taxpayers’ monies.
      
      20 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:51am
    - Gravelroad
      
      But seriously Niggly, does anyone outside central Wellington and enclaves in Auckland take any notice of what the Greens say these days?
      Calling someone a racist used to be a big deal but it is so overused now that it has lost any shock value.
      If/when this Farage guy comes and assuming he is allowed to speak, let the people out here listen and make up their own minds.
      The Greens and Golly G are an irrelevance and have lost any claim to integrity and dignity of office.
      All they do is shout slogans.
      
      13 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 10:26am
      - Flash
        
        Pssst! He was here, and spoke in Auckland last night. I heard it reported on ZB Talkback.
        
        8 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 11:10am
      - waikatosinger
        
        I was there. Nothing objectionable in anything he had to say. Interesting.
        
        8 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 12:49pm
    - Liberty
      
      TV1 are also crawling up the arse of CoL.
      CoL were roasted in the house yesterday and not a word on State news.
      Even a snap debate on the clayton sacking of the the speakers friend. Didn’t get a mention.
      
      18 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 10:31am
  - RF
    
    Both GG and the other thing called Chloe are phoney as a $3.00 note.
    
    We do not need or want these people in our country.
    
    They are just leeches who thrive on publicity and in my opinion are a waste of oxygen.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 10:47am
- kowtow
  
  Gubmint don’t need to apply anything.
  
  The MSM is generally so leftist and agenda driven that it actively engages in self censorship, deliberate exclusions and straight out fake news , like calling all nationalist politicians “far right ” or “populist”.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:18am
  - backster
    
    Yet greedy old Peters was quoted this morning onradio news as saying a Free Press was essential for democracy.That is whyhe is giving $10millionof our dollars to set up a Journalism School in the Islands.
    
    13 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:57am
kevn

@secondc… golly g, the got only 1000 votes gal?
The one in gummint?
Wow, what does she have to say folks.
Might be important and meaningful and relevant and sensible. Oh…
34 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:14am
secondcumming

Old words that need to come back……….

*KAKISTOCRACY* [19th century – noun]

Definition: Government by the least qualified or worst people.
25 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:14am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Have you been reading the review of Bob Woodward’s new book?
  
  5 35
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No; do you have another question?
    
    17 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:46am
  - KevOB
    
    What is the merit of a book “reporting” hearsay?
    This is not the Woodward of the 1960’s.
    
    12 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:57am
    - stephieboy
      
      I’m Sure Bob Woodard has his sources including this recent insider view,
      
      Fire and Fury,
      
      https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Inside-Trump-White/dp/1250158060
      
      2 24
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:06am
      - KevOB
        
        Do you get a commission?
        
        4 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 12:26pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Some sources are more reliable than others
        
        https://www.amazon.com/Liars-Leakers-Liberals-Anti-Trump-Conspiracy/dp/1546083421
        
        4 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:16pm
  - Harkman
    
    Bob Woodward lost all credibility back in the 90s with his Alan Greenspan read, “Back from the brink: The Greenspan years”
    
    In the past week his mate Bernstein has been made a fool of.
    
    13 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:11am
    - KevOB
      
      What age are Woodward and Bernstein? About 90?
      
      10 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:34am
      - Harkman
        
        Yes close enough, but remember Clinton corruption doesn’t interest him. I wonder why?
        
        16 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:45am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      John Dowd, James Mathis and John Kelly all deny making comments attributed to them in Woodward’s latest novel, leaving his credibility at an all time low.
      Woodward uses anonymous sources to make unfounded allegations and paints a Whitehouse that is completely dysfunctional.
      The Trump administration is producing concrete results for the US which would be unachievable in the toxic environment Woodward imagines.
      I can’t imagine why anyone would waste time reading the book. Can’t wait to miss the tv series.
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:05pm
artemisia

A(nother) very amusing ‘consultation’ process has begun. Many new and detailed standards for rental properties proposed including size of bedroom heaters and some very spurious costs of supplying ventilation options like bathroom fans.

Not much about tenant responsibilities, it’s all about landlord responsibilities and costs. I don’t suppose all the options will be required by regulation but betcha most will become law.

Unintended consequences? Yep, and many of them.

The huge discussion document and a prettily formatted online survey is at the below link and available in hard copy by sending name and address to Healthyhomes@mbie.govt.nz

http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/housing-property/housing-quality
31 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:15am
- tf78
  
  You can have all the heaters in the world in a rental but it doesn’t mean tenants will turn them on. Landlords will be required to pay electricity bills next.
  
  35 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:35am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Without an increase in rent that will only be allowed once a year.
    
    How many landlords raise the rent at six monthly intervals?
    
    18 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:48am
  - dave_c_
    
    Worse still, this insidious creep of ‘landlord responsibilities’ is deliberate, with the end-game being to make it uneconomic for anyone (other than government agencies, and councils) to own rental accommodation. Mark my words.
    
    22 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:59am
    - KevOB
      
      Yes. Venezuela comes to NZ. All housing stock to be govt owned.
      
      21 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:01am
  - simpleton1
    
    yes the electricity to be paid by landlord, plus an on
    call full time maintenance handyman janitor.
    
    He will be the one who will make the call and turn on the switch when the heater is to be turned on. 🙂
    
    This is also being explored through lines company, and their “smart meterage” for electricity usage.
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:22am
    - artemisia
      
      Phone apps already here for remote control of appliances.
      
      It is obvious rents will rise. For example, the install cost of a heat pump is one (big) thing, but there is ongoing servicing. I have just paid an invoice for the annual servicing of one heat pump – $110. Add in booking the job, arranging access and paying the bill. Now looking at upwards of $3 a week just for servicing just one appliance that is already working.
      
      Won’t take many x $3 pw for a significant rent increase.
      
      7 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 10:30am
  - Sarkozygroupie
    
    From a quick read of the article in the paper there is a proposed requirement that Landlords will be required to ensure a stable temperature is maintained at all times in the rental property.
    
    I kid you not.
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:14pm
    - KevOB
      
      Were the physicians consulted as to an appropriate stable temperature? That varies from person to person and hour to hour. Humans are more variable than robots.
      Are there to be fixed heating periods like schools when heating was allowed from May through September?
      
      Next the COL will be wanting to regulate moonbeams to prevent possible overnight burnout.
      
      4 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:36pm
    - artemisia
      
      I think more like ‘capable of’.
      
      So, if there are new regs designed to ensure rentals are not ‘cold, damp and mouldy’, what if there is mould or damp.
      
      I can tell you the answer for many landlords. The tenants will be issued a 14 day notice to fix, followed by more regular inspections. All with correct notice given, of course. If mould and damp recurs, the landlord can give notice to terminate in 90 days ‘or earlier if so ordered by the Tenancy Tribunal’.
      
      If the tenant takes the landlord to the TT, the Ll’s evidence is that the standards have been met, so tenant is at fault and must remedy.
      
      Once on the TT database for any reason but especially for creating mould and damp, good luck getting a new tenancy. We have a crisis, remember, so not enough homes to go round …..
      
      4 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:50pm
- Kabull
  
  The only way to meet European heating standards (as seems to be the intent) would be to build houses with full central heating – the reticulated hot water type. Requiring each room to be separately heated to a defined level is stupid and wasteful.
  
  33 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:49am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    In Germany we had double glazing and central heating (based on hot water) even in the 70s. But one could decide which rooms to actually heat by turning the central heating device valve on or off in each room. Since my parents often kept some rooms quite cool, I presume the costs were somehow reflected in ones usage. I was too young to note how the charges worked.
    
    The apartment buildings based the hot water central heating engine in the cellars, and they needed a janitor/manager in each building. Except for big apartment buildings, this can’t work in NZ, as most of our buildings are much smaller.
    
    14 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 10:34am
- KevOB
  
  Perfection in rental accomodation? Rent+50%. Dogs extra still…
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:00am
oldpark

Heard the clown Twyford a reject from Oxfam now masquerading as a Peters selected Lie-bour MP.
Yes the same clown who promised 10,000 houses yearly to be built in NZ. Last count he was feeding off 18 houses most of them almost finished by a National Government.
Now to take the heat of his inept inane waste of time and space he has come up with a new game.
Yes putting the boot into landlords who have the temerity or gall to provide rental housing for almost a third of NZs.
Just one of many types of the new found social engineering as proposed by the Peters/Green /Liebour gangs is just one of them to start the ball rolling.
Making sure that every bedroom in the rental houses will have to have a room temperature of not less than 18c. Failing that a modest $4000 dollar fine will be charged to the unfortunate person known as the Landlord of the house where tenants hurty feelings will be satisfied.
That is just one of many many changes to be enacted by Peters selected Coalition of Corruption and Chaos,leading the charge will be the Oxfam Reject Twyford. Who the fugh would be a Landlord,under the new proposed social engineering punitive rental laws.
36 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:21am
- artemisia
  
  Who would be a landlord these days? Easy. The ones who don’t sell up existing and who buy new apartments. (Might not be too many of the latter, in which case developers are going to be in trouble unless there is plenty of Chinese money inflow. Just what we need, eh?)
  
  They will be in the box seat with record rents and the pick of the very best tenants.
  
  ECON101.
  
  I hope there is plenty in the pot for lots more social housing.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:54am
- KevOB
  
  Who’s going to pay the electricity bills?
  
  “… That will be free to all State owned rental accommodation. It will be included in the social rental. It won’t affect taxpayers much as they can afford electricity anyway. They can afford taxes on their generous incomes….”
  
  20 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:08am
mister nui

I was thinking…

Whilst Jacindarella is off swanning around Nauru cuddling up to fraudugees, if Clarke were to run out of milk for baby Jesus Te Awamutu, perhaps he could share some of his coca cola with baby….
26 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:23am
- VicParking
  
  Almont Milk nui Almont Milk
  
  13 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:41am
- NZDirect
  
  He could get so cold that there would be snow everywhere
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  “Fraudugees” , excellent. I think I’ll use that.
  
  13 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:21am
Paulus

Amusing to see the Publicity stunt that Barbra Dreaver pulled in Nauru yesterday.
I cannot believe that she did not know what she was doing – encouraged I expect by her friend from World Vision – Bayldon.
Other people had no problems in interviewing Refugees by following the protocol set by the Nauru government.
Dreaver deliberately set out to not do this (like she did in Fiji where she was banned for eight years). RNZ must have known that there was every chance she would seek the publicity so that Cinderella flying in now can jump on the bandwagon. Albeit Peters has jumped first so Cinderella missed out as she was baby minding in New Zealand – and getting clobbered in Parliament yesterday by Bridges.
50 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:23am
- RW Capitalist
  
  The new thesaurus is out.
  Barbra Dreaver………………..Arrogant, self serving, opinionated, generally an embarrassment to society.
  
  42 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:48am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Person of colour; your argument, logically presented and intellectually sound, is set to fail.
    
    11 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:51am
  - Harkman
    
    I’m angry National has her back.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:13am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  We should defend our journalists so they can do their job and enjoy basic human rights. If these tinpot dictatorships want to oppress their own people, maybe we just tell them to stop being evil. But if they do it to our people we should cut them off and make them a pariah and encourage our friends to so the same. If one particular journalist benefits from that and also happens to be a bit nutty, so be it.
  
  2 14
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:27am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s difficult to enforce NZ rights in foreign country, Nigel.
    
    12 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 10:39am
Igotta Numbum

Done.

Last of my 5 rentals now empty, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

Not so much the house WoF as an issue, as they’re all high-quality builds etc., it’s just that I’m not going to be dictated to with regards to tenure, pricing and so on.

Twyfraud can get stuffed.
47 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  An alternative income stream? Work and income?
  
  2 36
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:48am
  - sooty
    
    Work & income works for the idiotboy, money for nothing.
    
    22 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:59am
    - VicParking
      
      And the goats for free ??
      
      8 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 11:30am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Some people have more than one income stream, and some people do not have an income stream from WINZ at all.
    Open your mind.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:44pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  If there are many like you. You will see the govt. bring in compulsory purchase for vacant properties.
  
  17 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Hope so! I will be happy with current market value or will the socialists be ignoring the situation of the South African farmers while adopting the SA gubbermint idea of compensation for ‘land acquired’ (seized) at about 10% of value?
    
    18 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:55am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      But capitalism has failed…
      Good luck getting “market” value.
      
      12 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:12am
- Monique Watson
  
  I Hear ya Igotta. Highlight for me was trying to get into my rental in Addington, Christchurch because I had prostitutes with cats pissing on the floor and a pedophile smashing holes in the walls. I tried to get in via the cops but they weren’t interested then the tenants called the cops saying I was doing my nana and they turned up. There is an interesting backstory to this one. I’m a disabled women and I flew down to Christchurch and walked into my property. Guy asleep on the floor in a raincoat so I kicked him and asked him if he was paying rent. The answer was, “no”, and we ended up shooting the breeze on the doorstep which is when he dished the dirt on the paedo and the prossies.
  I kicked those fuckers out of there in a roundabout way. I knew a rather helpful guy:
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4508646/Shadowy-figure-on-edge-of-crime-dies
  Tenant of mine in Wellington. Barry flew down to Chch to do me a favour.
  
  18 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:21am
Happychappy

Didn’t Barbara Dreaver have problems getting visas to go to some of the Pacific Islands under Nationals reign, if I remember right she was barred from going to Fiji. This Journalist has trouble obeying other Countries rules and the NZ Government should remind her that she is on her own if she continues to meddle in another countries problems.
36 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:27am
- Tricati
  
  Correct – She got the arse card from Fiji for manufacturing a story and banned for 8 years.
  The sense on entitlement is strong in this one, strongly supported by her MSM muppet mates.
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:50am
  - lifesgood
    
    She thinks she’s a hero. Stupid woman.
    
    8 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 11:56am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Amazing that she can sign an undertaking knowing full well that she isn’t going to abide by what is essentially a contract.
    I can’t support that type of behaviour, she was a guest there, she should abide by the hosts’ rules.
    
    4 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:51pm
    - GoVege
      
      Jeezzus!! Listen to you!
      The woman is a journalist!
      It’s her job to find out the truth, not kowtow to bullies and dictators.
      
      0 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 1:54pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        You may be correct, but I’ve seen no evidence that Dreaver has an interest in the truth.
        Like many in her trade, her search is for the sensational at the expense of the truth.
        
        3 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 8:11pm
Tarquin North

I see the first beneficiary of the Auckland fuel tax has been announced, The Matakana link road. Surely this must be the ultimate holiday highway? Can’t wait to here the Greens and co protesting like they did about the new road further north or is it different now?
26 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:28am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Matakana link road is 1.4km (less than a mile) long 2 lane road through farmland built to take traffic away from the Appalling Hill Rd/SH1 intersection in Warkworth. It has been planned for years. How the fuck does it cost $63million dollars??!!!?
  
  US Federal Highways Administration 2006:
  “The cost to construct one lane-mile of a typical 4-lane divided highway can range from $3.1 million to $9.1 million per lane-mile in rural areas depending on terrain type”
  
  Suggests it should cost less than $10million for a <1mile long 2 lane road.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:21am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Having the Auckland council involved would explain things. The compliance costs alone would be out of this world, but since they are charging themselves and the money is a windfall to them, there would be no accountability anyway. Says a lot about what is wrong with local government.
    
    17 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:55am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      And 67million for a 1km long footbridge suspended under the Auckalnd harbour Bridge, which would be expensive at 10% of that price.
      
      It’s no wonder infrastructure in Auckland is so fucked up when they are spending 5-10x as much as they should for the results they are getting.
      
      10 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 11:18am
      - Paulus
        
        This new footbridge will have a large and long climb up to the top from each end and for cyclists a speed limit and speed cameras for the downhill sections as somebody will get hurt by the Lycra Brigade
        There will have to be toilets at the pinnacle for those walkers who may well need it – and a cafe for water and food.
        
        5 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 2:28pm
secondcumming

WHOOPS!! Just received a call from my GP’s nurse…… sounds like I misunderstood what he was looking for 🙁

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmQsiohWwAAVeHH.jpg
17 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:34am
tedbear

It’s always amazed me how reporters can expect everyone to jump, answer phones, turn up for interviews or have a microphone shoved in your face.
Now we have this Barbara Dreaver in Naura. Her visa stated she can only cover the forum, but no, this deluded correspondent decided to ignore the rules around her getting a visa and take a cameraman and go talk to a refugee.
To be honest, she’s bloody lucky she wasn’t sent home.
Then to top it off, TVNZ was complicit in Dreaver’s refugee chat in screening the footage on One news.
43 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:38am
- niggly
  
  Talking about ignoring the rules:
  
  Dreaver’s cameraman – who was not with her when she was detained – told TVNZ the pair had been interviewing refugees at a camp when security staff asked if they had permission to film. He said this exchange was civil and the pair agreed to leave and seek written permission from the Government.
  
  It was later when Dreaver was interviewing another refugee that she was detained, he told TVNZ.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106822330/tvnz-reporter-barbara-dreaver-reportedly-detained-in-nauru
  
  So from that it outlines the reporter (with cameraman) agreed to seek written permission and were therefore released. Nek minnit said reporter (this time without cameraman) went back to interview another refugee without seeking written permission!
  
  Sure reporters got to report, but generally one has to obey the rules of the host country, surely.
  
  But worst of all, what makes the whole incident stink is that the reporter becomes the story (dominating media coverage) and instead we hear little (if next to nothing) about the Pacific Forum happenings itself! Typical self-obsessed MSM!
  
  48 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:52am
- KevOB
  
  She was even luckier she wasn’t incarcerated without bail for trial in 6 weeks.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:14am
niggly

Heard Hosking’s regular panel interview with Mark Mitchell and Stuart Nash on ZB, Hosking asked Nash whether Labour are behind releasing dirt on Marama Fox (as potentially there could be a by-election there if Labour’s Meka Whaitiri has to resign for assault).

Nash’s answer? “We don’t do that sort of stuff anymore“!

That’s what he said – make of that what you will!
43 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:39am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Nash is a politician; his lips were moving, therefore, he is lying.
  
  24 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:59am
- Gravelroad
  
  I heard part of that.
  Nash not at all impressive.
  Said what he had been told to say.
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:44am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  When did they stop?
  8am today?
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:49pm
cmm

Woop, woop! Most expensive petrol evva.

A fill up of a people-mover is now $30 more than in was a year ago.

Charter schools being shut down to crush pathways to success.

Those promised houses and goodies aren’t coming…

Hmmm, maybe this government isn’t so friendly to the lower socio-economic people after all!
41 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:44am
- KiWombat
  
  You should be so lucky !
  
  Diesel has gone up from .95 to $1.60 in the same time. Poor buggers who rely on diesel will not be able to hike their prices by anything like that amount !
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:08pm
  - cmm
    
    $1.60 pah! Diesel is $1.75 here in Chch.
    
    And Dalziel is feeling jealous that Goff is getting regional fuel surcharges and wants some too! No doubt we can soon expect another 5-10c for her little trough.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:55pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Some grim reading with excerpts from Bob Woodward’s new book, Fear. A book about bout a seriously dysfunctional White House.

Early details from Bob Woodward’s book “Fear” are now out by the President’s increasing, “erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying.”

“…..the picture painted by Trump’s confidants, senior staff and Cabinet officials reveal that many of them see an even more alarming situation — worse than previously known or understood. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying.”

” In addition to literally stealing or hiding documents from Trump’s desk, they sought to stall and delay decisions or distract Trump from orders they thought would endanger national security.

“A third of my job was trying to react to some of the really dangerous ideas that he had and try to give him reasons to believe that maybe they weren’t such good ideas,” said Porter…..”

” Then, in an even more remarkable move, Dowd and Trump’s current personal attorney Jay Sekulow went to Mueller’s office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn’t possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.

“He just made something up. That’s his nature,” Dowd said to Mueller.

The passage is an unprecedented glimpse behind the scenes of Mueller’s secretive operation — for the first time, Mueller’s conversations with Trump’s lawyers are captured.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-boo k-donald-trump-fear/index.html
5 45
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:46am
- Simon
  
  Soyboy
  
  19 4
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:54am
- dave_c_
  
  Stephie – the very fact you are referencing a CNN source was enough for me to not even read the rest of your diatribe.
  
  27 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:06am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    dave c , irrelevant. Try reading it now available,
    
    “ THE INSIDE STORY ON PRESIDENT TRUMP, AS ONLY BOB WOODWARD CAN TELL IT With authoritative reporting honed through eight presidencies from Nixon to Obama, author Bob Woodward reveals in unprecedented detail the harrowing life inside President Donald Trump’s White House and precisely how he makes decisions on major foreign and domestic policies. Woodward draws from hundreds of hours of interviews with firsthand sources, meeting notes, personal diaries, files and documents. The focus is on the explosive debates and the decision-making in the Oval Office, the Situation Room, Air Force One and the White House residence. Fear is the most intimate portrait of a sitting president ever published during the president’s first years in office.”
    
    https://www.bookdepository.com/Fear-Trump-in-the-White-House-Bob-Woodward/9781501175510?redirected=true&utm_medium=Google&utm_campaign=Base1&utm_source=NZ&utm_content=Fear-Trump-in-the-White-House&selectCurrency=NZD&w=AF7CAU96UG0ZT5A80RVY&pdg=pla-309526196534:kwd-309526196534:cmp-710646238:adg-42660986568:crv-163904097987:pid-9781501175510:dev-c&gclid=CjwKCAjw2rjcBRBuEiwAheKeLxvGReYXMumpZPUYXN4CxZW43n9yYzWc5ilqLH2Uhjgt3rVvSDGx4BoCkBYQAvD_BwE
    
    2 36
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:11am
    - kevn
      
      @SepticBoy…. NO-ONE WILL READ IT.
      I wonder why?
      
      24 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:18am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        kevn, NO ONE ??
        
        0 32
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:25am
      - Inandout
        
        They may read books like this though:
        
        http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/07/25/deep-state-by-jason-chaffetz.html
        
        11 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:41am
      - Jack5
        
        Don’t need to read the book now.
        
        Courtesy of Kiwiblog we have it – Woodward via CNN via the Stephiestani Troll Syndicate.
        
        Better at every step.
        
        11 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 10:42am
- KevOB
  
  Woodward must be close to 90.
  
  CNN/BBC ??
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:18am
  - Harkman
    
    Washington Post editor or something.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:41am
- pentwig
  
  stupidboy
  why do you not read the book yourself then give us your review instead of a cut and paste from a nutter
  
  is that too difficult for you?
  
  20 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:23am
VicParking

Good Article on BBC comparing Adern and Bhutto’s pregnancy and birthing.
The Quote that caught my eye was:
“Opposition leader Syeda Abida Hussain had called Bhutto “greedy” and accused her of wanting to have “motherhood, domesticity and glamour” rather than serving her country.”
All I can say is “What comes round comes round”, just replace ‘glamour’ with ‘Photo Shoot’.
31 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:49am
Chris2

Ardern on the BBC for all the wrong reasons
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45405777
27 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:50am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Maybe now they will get it and start using the following adjectives in pieces about her.
  Arrogant
  Self entitled
  stupid
  disrespectful to the voters
  spend thrift
  
  27 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:58am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Simon Bridges nailed it yesterday when he said ‘the fairy dust was more like asbestos’
  
  40 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:02am
secondcumming

People that can fuck-off today…….

Pope Francis
Trotting Trainers
Mary Berry
People from Palmerston North
18 4
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:51am
- VicParking
  
  Chelsea Manning
  Barbara Dreaver
  
  31 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh no, what has Mary done to upset you?
  
  19 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:06am
  - Harkman
    
    Yep I got to agree on this one, I must be ill.
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:16am
  - secondcumming
    
    You’re right Maggy……I am upset!!
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfogQgdWAAA8Ru5.jpg
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 10:48am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I like Mary Berry
    Triumph over adversity story without hype.
    And she cooks nice stuff.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:52pm
RW Capitalist

Alien abduction????
The Abby Hartley story was all over the news for days……
NOW…………….NOTHING
Simon Bridges acts as go between for a PRIVATELY funded solution, after the govt. refused to get involved.
and suddenly…….there is no reporting on this.
Only conclusion can be the poor woman must have been abducted by aliens.
32 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:55am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Made Ardern look like tits.
  Can’t have that.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:52pm
VicParking

.
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:56am
MCos

Why doesn’t the Nauru Government not want Dreaver to interview refugees without one of their people present?

Naura does everything it can to discourage prying eyes. Is it because Australia gives them a shit load of money?
Approx 200 tourists visit that wretched country each year. Less than North Korea.
A visa for a reporter who wants to visit and talk to refugees costs $A8000. This has been waived for this talk fest.
6 31
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:57am
- sooty
  
  Their country, their rules! Don’t like it, don’t go!
  
  38 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:03am
  - MCos
    
    ‘Their country, their rules’
    
    Not a mantra that sits well when the discussion turns to South Africa, Venezuela, etc etc
    
    2 10
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:47am
    - Happychappy
      
      For simple people that think they know it all like you MCos the visas were given with strict rules that were agreed,they were their to report on the Forum not Refugees. But like most of your posts lacking facts.
      
      16 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:58am
      - MCos
        
        Check your facts again.
        
        1 7
        Report
        September 5, 2018 11:06am
      - Happychappy
        
        MCos This is fact by Jenna Lynch, “The visas needed to go to the Country made clear we could only cover the Pacific Island Forum and related events” now this is fact from a Journalist covering the day to day activities at the Forum. This Journalist from Newshub gave facts so go check your own instead of being a very poor troll.
        
        6 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:49pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Who would want to go to those places
      
      3 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:05pm
- NZDirect
  
  Nauru is part of an anti-people trafficking scheme where economic migrants (not refugees) who pay traffickers to bypass the normal process and travel to Australia are detained and processed in their nominated detention centres in PNG and Nauru.
  
  It is a scheme designed to break the business model of the people traffickers – and it works. It probably should be adopted in Italy and other European countries.
  
  Anyone who protests against these schemes is clearly in support of people trafficking.
  
  34 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:04am
  - MCos
    
    Nauru couldn’t give a shit about stopping people smugglers. They’re in it for the money.
    A previous scheme they had was to sell passports. People smuggling for the rich.
    
    8 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:43am
    - lifesgood
      
      Who cares. It works for Australia.
      
      10 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:03pm
Manolo

Another Green “leader”, another crook:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/marama-foxs-landlord-evicted-her-after-she-failed-to-pay-thousands-in-rent/ar-BBMQnu3

Former MP Marama Fox’s landlord has told Newshub he had to evict her after she failed to pay thousands of dollars in rent for commercial premises.

It comes as her consultancy business was liquidated for debts of over $70,000.

Craig Nelson, landlord of a commercial premises in Masterton, says he is owed $15,000 in unpaid rent and legal fees because he had to evict her. Mr Nelson said he gave her a number of extensions, and she told him she was trying to raise money.
26 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Nah, she is good!
  
  Fox said yesterday theat she would TRY to pay the debt.
  
  The wrinkled prune ‘tried’ to pay the mis-declared $158,000.00 back; not very hard but try he did.
  
  Pound to a poo that the debt is never paid in spite of the money she has fleeced the New Zealand tax payer under the false pretensions of being a credible representative in our parliment
  
  19 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:08am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Do you get paid on dancing with the stars?
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:15pm
  - GoVege
    
    Paulus: both the Maramas are very pretty ladies!
    Incredibly, foxy lady has pushed out 9 kids.
    How she gets time for all this stuff she does….oh that’s right, Maori and many Polynesians get the older kids to raise the younger ones.
    One of the reasons for their shocking illiteracy and unemployment rates.
    Though in Fox’s case, she does seem to have a very nice hubby helping out.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:39pm
    - howitis
      
      Don’t think so.
      Hubby saw the light of this man hater .
      Fox’s White male father left the coup when she was four – so a probable contributor to her racism and hating white males.
      
      If the mother was anything like Marama you can’t blame him, although it sounds like the mother had some get up and go.
      
      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/09/02/217323/former-mp-marama-fox-owes-small-businesses-over-70k
      …Earlier this year she appeared on reality television show Dancing with the Stars, and in a magazine interview revealed she had split with her husband of 29 years…
      
      3 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 5:54pm
- MCos
  
  Maori Party
  Staunch ally of the Nats.
  
  3 16
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:50am
- GoVege
  
  Maori Party, Manolo.
  (I know, it’s easy to get her mixed up with that other Marama airhead in the Greens…did it myself recently.)
  Foxy chick is the one who said all NZ…I mean Aotearoa…should belong to Maori during the election debates.
  Why should Maori repay the invaders?
  This is their land!
  The standard excuse for Maori to rip off Pakeha. 🙂
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:28pm
RW Capitalist

Tover O’Brien this morning.
The police pay claim, along with teachers and nurses, will eat into the govt. surplus.

??????????????????????????????
What surplus? Tover…..they never had a surplus.
They allowed housing NZ to borrow $2.9 b OUTSIDE of the budget, so they could CLAIM a $3b surplus, so being honest they had a surplus of $100 million, eaten up immediately (despite multiple warnings) by the nurses.
But….no worries the govt.s pet “reporter” will keep using the word.
A bit like “Comical ally” during the gulf war, claiming the coalition “will never enter Bahgdad”, while we could see the tanks behind him.
33 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:04am
waikatogirl

Chelsea Manning has been granted a work visa for her visit to NZ and will be hosted by ex-Labour MP Georgina Beyer. All-around hugfest.
26 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:09am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  And so is Nigel Farage. Speaking tonite. Not forgetting Pauline Hanson and Jordan Peterson.
  
  A lot to look forward to.
  
  Yes?
  
  4 34
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:14am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I hope you didn’t pay good money for your ticket to hear Farage. He’s been and gone while you were on google.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:56pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Well then it begs the question.
  If Manning, a criminal can get, not just a visa, but a work visa.
  Can Mike Tyson re apply?
  
  20 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:25am
- kowtow
  
  Rugmuncherfest.
  
  12 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:31am
  - Psycho Milt
    
    A person’s preferred porn scenes are of no interest outside their own head.
    
    3 12
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:46am
  - sooty
    
    Would need a work visa or he can’t get paid.
    He ain’t doing this for free.
    
    10 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:47am
- Rachael Membery
  
  How can Georgina afford to host anyone? Last time I heard Georgina was n a benefit bemoaning her fall from her current pay ranges. Who is backing Georgina?
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:21pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No idea… but she has had a successful recovery from her kidney transplant and a couple of months back was looking for funds to get to speak at the Oxford Union.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105515701/Former-politician-Georgina-Beyer-invited-to-speak-at-the-Oxford-Union
    
    2 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:18pm
  - Paulus
    
    Taxpayer under some Labour Party Scheme plus expenses unless she can get a flight on the Little Bald One’s Airforce which is often around Masterton.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:33pm
Ross12

I watched Alan Jones and Peta Credlin on Sky last night, on “Jones & Co”. Jones was talking a lot about how Australia needs to develop it’s water resources. He had some amazing stats to back up his argument.
They have plenty of water to make major agricultural developments if they want to.
They also interviewed Nigel Farage.

The other observation : Jones is such a great speaker and is very persuasive.
Peta Credlin has to be one of the best political observers/commentators in this part of the world.
If NZ had people on TV like these two ( and few others Australia has) I think I might actually watch current affairs / political programs on TV again.
22 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:17am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Ross12 , it seems you merely want Journos who agree and reflect your own personal prejudices and assumptions?
  
  2 40
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:21am
  - Ross12
    
    I could not give a stuff what you think SB.
    Unlike you I do not have “personal prejudices and assumptions”
    
    23 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:25am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Would rather the journo’s STOPPED giving me THEIR “prejudices and assumptions” and started actually reporting the ……N E W S.
    
    15 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:28am
  - pentwig
    
    stupidthing
    just as you link to alt left sources
    pot kettle black
    LOL
    
    16 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:28am
- Manolo
  
  Mrs Credlin ids a fearless commentator and political mind.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:39am
- lifesgood
  
  Don’t forget the brilliant Andrew Bolt.
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:08pm
lastmanstanding

There is a significant gap in politics opening up on centre right for a conservative party to fill.
IMHO at some point the conservatives/less Left in Labour will join the conservatives/less Left to form a new Party.

They will do so because the Nat MPs dont see a future under Simon or their current policies and the Labour MPs are pissed off with the factionalism in their party.

Its platform will be similar to the 1984/87 Lange Labour Party.
It will be for smaller government so bullshit Ministrys like Wimmins Affairs will go.
It will be for controlled immigration with infrastructure at least keeping up with population growth.
It will be for lower taxes.
It will be pro small business.
It will be of free speech.
It will be for traditional democracy.
It will support the traditional family unit.

And it will win enough support to lead a Government with ACT.
14 4
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:20am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  All pious election vote mongering, getting platitudes.
  
  “It will be for traditional democracy.”
  
  ????
  
  1 36
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:23am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy, It’s good to see we’ve got the septicboy on this morning that can actually spell ,unlike yesterday.
    
    14 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:32am
    - sooty
      
      But none of them is as nasty as the zit!
      
      11 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:43am
  - Psycho Milt
    
    ????
    
    He means the good old days when democracy involved a bunch of conservative white men forming governments with a minority of the vote. Some traditions aren’t worth keeping.
    
    1 18
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:44am
    - Longknives
      
      Why do you always have to get Racist about things Psycho Milt?
      
      6 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 11:45am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    SB-Your constant pointless interruptions to civilised discussion here tells us all how much you oppose traditional democracy, free speech, the traditional family unit, controlled immigration, small government, and lower taxes.
    These things are vote mongering platitudes?
    Heaven forbid the electors should choose the wrong thing according to you!
    IWe don’t all have your superior BRIAN architecture.
    Pfft.
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:07pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Its platform will be similar to the 1984/87 Lange Labour Party.
  
  So it will be keen on things like a royal commission on social policy?
  
  1 15
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:42am
Hugh Pavletich

Christchurch councillor in trouble over staff ‘tampering’ claims | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/106824010/christchurch-councillor-in-trouble-over-staff-tampering-claims

A Christchurch City councillor faces a disciplinary hearing after publicly claiming council staff had deliberately altered the city’s district plan.

David East, who represents the Coastal ward, met with Mayor Lianne Dalziel after calling for an independent inquiry into claims staff erased a clause after it had been signed off.

During a press conference on Monday he alleged legislation that would have made it easier for residents in flood-prone areas of the city to renovate and build homes had been removed from the plan. … read more via hyperlink above …
6 17
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:23am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Really…..if you get arrested for drink driving, what do you get for being drunk as a mayor?
  It was Dalziel as an MP, wasn’t it?
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:31am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    The Christchurch Council staff have long been way out of control.
    
    Just check out The Bureaucrats Bog … the former central area.
    
    A commercial no go zone.
    
    We had earthquake events in this city … followed by political and bureaucratic disasters.
    
    13 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:39am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    No, it was Ruth Dyson. Dalziel got sacked from Cabinet for the “lie in unison” immigration scandal over a girl from Sri Lanka.
    
    25 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:52am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Thank you for the correction.
      
      7 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:55am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … The Christchurch Council circus … continued …
        
        Casualty count in Christchurch hospitality industry rises | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/106769414/Chefs-Christchurch-restaurant-empire-in-liquidation
        
        High flying restaurant owner Tony Astle is the latest casualty in an increasingly tough hospitality sector in Christchurch.
        
        Six of his companies were placed in voluntary liquidation on Friday including the companies behind his Asian fusion restaurant King of Snake and his bistro Universo, run from Christchurch City Council–owned premises in the Christchurch Art Gallery. … read more via hyperlink above …
        .
        .
        There’s a reason people aren’t flocking to the central city | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/106659987/theres-a-reason-people-arent-flocking-to-the-central-city
        
        OPINION: Here we are folks, staring down the barrel of the eighth anniversary of the first of the Christchurch earthquakes.
        
        In breaking news, the Christchurch City Council has set up a subcommittee to investigate why – eight years after the fact – bugger-all people have decided to call the central city home. …
        
        … And herein lies the Christchurch rebuild folks: a marketing campaign.
        
        If you promise to keep it a secret, I’ll tell you why nobody’s living in the city centre.
        
        It was a part of a different plan. It’s because the market was manipulated to ensure central city property prices rose, or at least to make sure they didn’t plummet.
        
        This was done to ensure that rich men who own large chunks of the city wouldn’t lose money.
        
        God forbid if property prices had crashed, then small-time developers and – gasp – even individuals might have been incentivised to come play in the sandpit. … read more via hyperlink above …
        .
        .
        CHRISTCHURCH CITY RESIDDENTIAL BUILDING CONSENTS CRASH FROM 300 JULY 2017 to JUST 133 JULY 2018 …
        
        … WHEN WILL HOUSING MINISTER TWYFORD (BELATEDLY) ALLOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT ? …
        
        Home consents down again in July | Stats NZ
        
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/home-consents-down-again-in-july
        
        0 5
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:07pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … Former Recovery Minister Gerry Brownlee blasts Mayor Lianne Dalziel on local Chris Lynch NewstalkZB …
        
        Democracy questioned at Christchurch City Council … Christchurch NewstalkZB
        
        https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/christchurch/canterbury-mornings/audio/democracy-questioned-at-christchurch-city-council/
        
        … concluding …
        
        … National MP and former Earthquake Recovery Minister Gerry Brownlee told Chris Lynch the city is in a bad state when you have the non-elected people telling the elected people what they can and cannot ask or say publicly. …. HEAR AND READ MORE via hyperlink above …
        
        0 4
        Report
        September 5, 2018 6:33pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Conduct complaint lodged against Chch councillor | RNZ
        
        https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018661264/conduct-complaint-lodged-against-chch-councillor
        
        0 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 11:02pm
- KevOB
  
  Is CCC doing a Curran? Surely they have records of what has been decided for sign off on District Plans?
  How could there be a possibility of a dispute on what had been actually formally agreed?
  
  14 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:40am
- wiseowl
  
  This is an example of what I mean about the consequences of the climate change fraud.
  This coastal area has most likely been targeted by the climate police as an area that will be subject to sea level rise .The staff have no proof but only speculation because of the scam and yet they can put rules in a plan that affect these landowners.
  This should not be allowed. No proof, no rules.
  The councillor may be on to something with changes possibly made to the plan by staff but it has not been very well reported.
  
  13 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:58am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Wiseowl … Mayor Lianne Dalziel is on the wrong side of the climate issue … and has been for a very long time.
    
    She really has let the people of the East down big time.
    
    9 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 10:06am
    - KevOB
      
      Large parts of the East are a forgotten zone.
      
      5 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 11:15am
- marcw
  
  So what do you think Hugh? Was this clause removed from the plan undemocratically, after the Council had voted on the issue?
  
  If so, surely this is an extremely serious issue, and heads should roll. But no … Dalziel’s response is to try and shame the whistle-blower instead of asking the CEO Town Clerk to investigate. Typical labour ‘leader’ response, create a diversion while the corruption is swept under the carpet.
  
  David East has previous form for getting things wrong, but this claim hits at the heart of what is wrong with Local Body governance – the monkeys control the puppet-master who is themself incompetent and dishonest.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:19pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Marew … I sure am looking forward to reading the transcript of Newstalk ZBs Chris Lynch interview with Cl David East this morning.
    
    I understand MP Gerry Brownlee has made public comment Mayor Lianne Dalziel responded inappropriately.
    
    There appear to be a number of community leaders in the east … and others … who support David East on this matter.
    
    1 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:40pm
Fletch

SHABAM!

Watch Ted Cruz take Democrats to the woodshed in his opening speech at the Kavanaugh hearing.

‘We know every Democrat on this Committee is voting no. They’ve announced ahead of time so the documents don’t matter … what it is about is politics. It’s about Senate Democrats re-litigating the 2016 election.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6c2101sGE

Man, that was so good.
27 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:24am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Fletch , why do you find his weirdness so captivating,?
  
  https://www.houstonpress.com/news/ted-cruzs-weirdness-the-definitive-guide-8325999
  
  0 33
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:29am
  - sooty
    
    That’s easy to explain stephie.
    Because it upsets you!
    
    19 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:41am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  A very impressive address
  Thanks for the link, Fletch.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:34pm
sooty

Who’s going to win Winstone or Jacinda?
Who will be the PM, when they get back?
17 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:55am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Dare we hope for new election????
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:03am
- MrLovebucket
  
  You think she might suddenly announce she needs more time off and underestimated early motherhood?
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not before she has her big trip to the UN
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:09pm
    - Paulus
      
      Assume Cindy is going to the UN with a job interview with references from H Clark.
      Kiss of Death with that as H Clark was hardly a shining person with the UN – she really was a disappointment, which is why she cannot get another job with the UN so will now make a nuisance here.
      
      6 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 2:37pm
Manolo

On the offensive:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/04/giuliani-to-trump-aides-ripping-trump-in-woodward-book-find-new-job.html
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:03am
Manolo

The uncivil Pocahontas:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/04/elizabeth-warren-protesters-kavanaugh/

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren said she was glad a group of protesters gathered inside the Hart Senate office building during the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh Tuesday, saying she thinks they should stay.
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

What is going on here?
A RNZ Journo is taking our Government to task

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/365706/guyon-espiner-this-government-has-lost-its-luggage-and-flight-plan
23 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:16am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Someone woke him from his coma?
  
  13 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:26am
- Manolo
  
  Are the faithful hacks losing confidence in the accidental PM?
  
  14 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:41am
secondcumming

My missus has been described by a number of her friends as being quite ‘Politically Astute’.

I heard her on the phone last night telling Deidre she had been watching *Question Time* on Sky. She was saying how much better the Speaker looked without his beard….and that someone should tell Ruth Dyson the 70’s called, looking to get their jacket back.
21 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:16am
Simon

Kavanaugh hearing. MSM/left/ Dems off their meds and off the charts.

Easy MAGA win.
11 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:25am
srylands

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106760154/fund-to-allow-whnau-hap-and-iwi-to-tell-stories-of-new-zealand-wars

$4 million to fund the telling stories seems like a lot, especially if they are not recorded and evaluated. It would be interesting to get the perspective of historians on the usefulness of this exercise.
16 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:28am
- dave_c_
  
  Funding so long as the stories are politically approved !
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:30am
- Komata
  
  Srylands: It will depend in the political inclinations if the historians who respond, so expect the usual anti-European diatribe from the usual suspects and villification of those who choose to present rebuttals, actual facts, or dare to ask for veriification of sources. Whatever is presented will be geared to a pre-ordained outcome and narrative (Maori good, whitey bad) and will be taken as honest and true, despite the fact that, as always in such matters, there will be absolutely no verification of what is being presented. ‘It’s been said by Maori, so it’s AUTOMATICALLY true’! No doubt the writing of the new ‘absolutely authentic and true’ narrative into school history textbooks will have already started.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:43am
  - dave_c_
    
    Komata- It really doesn’t matter if things are written into the the textbooks. Todays education system is already indoctrinating the young to believe that whiteys are bad, and must pay pennance for their colonial past.
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:41pm
- KevOB
  
  It’s Pakeha bashing*. Maori may be in their death throes. Past Elders predicted this when their people began moving into cities.
  
  Now we have some wanting to invent a new Maori language by borrowing from English. Their argument: it was good enough for the English to borrow. As predicted the number of actual Maori native speakers has dropped below the recovery and teaching level. I hear pidgin variants on radio, TV and even the COL benches in Parliament. There is no nationally recognised Maori language. The grammar is in a state of flux too. To keep it now is like having a pet rock: out of place in the garden and no use around the house.
  
  *Maori activists are wanting more $$ for us being here–waters next.
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Belgians wouldn’t mind a bit of flux in French past participles.
    https://www.thelocal.fr/20180903/belgium-wants-to-ditch-complicated-french-grammar-rule-and-they-might-be-right
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:47pm
  - dave_c_
    
    They’re really after total governance of the entire Ayohteearower.
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:43pm
- Jack5
  
  There’s a waiata craze in the public service and some other PC organisations. PC peer pressure.
  
  Here’s some tips on singing waiata at work. From, who else, but Red Radio:
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018661187/how-to-get-waiata-fit-a-step-by-step-guide-to-singing-at-your-workplace
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:54pm
waikatosinger

Five minutes of Farage’s Auckland speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1no53dlwwg
14 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:33am
- Inandout
  
  Compare Nigel with this dipstick of the leftists, Pelosi:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBtG40b3xU
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:24am
burt

Here we have a list of names from the racing industry that didn’t donate to NZ First.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/106830745/seven-charged-in-harness-racing-probe
17 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:38am
igm

Fairfax Filth must be really scared of Mike Hosking and his wife. Once again they have a piece regarding their renting a home, whilst awaiting moving into a new one, with a comments section. This would not be accorded to a filthy lefty, but one should take note of the envious and deathly vile comments. This country is really going to the pack, led by that apparition masquerading as PM.
24 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:48am
- burt
  
  Only a socialist with no real world experience would live in a multi million dollar house and drive a car worth over a hundred thousand while encouraging tall poppy syndrome and denigrating people for having saved their own money.
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 10:53am
dime

Is Dime were Maori… and was constantly told –

“you’re not as smart as white people or Asians, we will let you into uni easier. we just don’t expect as much from you”.

Dime would be fucking ropeable.
21 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 11:13am
- itstricky
  
  Sure you would. But that’s not what they’re told.
  
  The entry program being discussed sets aside places for people of Maori decent who are committed to serving Maori communities.
  
  Nothing in that sentence says anything about “don’t expect as much”, or “you’re not as smart” and they have to achieve the same grades as everyone else who progresses.
  
  2 12
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:31am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Of course it does. Otherwise they wouldn’t need the racist cheat-code to get into med school.
    
    NZ is being shortchanged when we don’t take the best candidates available. And it is very unfair to the better candidates who are consequently rejected
    
    10 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 11:45am
    - itstricky
      
      Of course it does
      
      The same grades have to be achieved. That says nothing about the intelligence of the applicant being different, or diminished. dime’s suggest that means “you’re too dumb” is incorrect.
      
      racist cheat-code
      
      What do you call it then, when there’s an equivalent program to that reserves spaces for candidates committed to rural communities?
      
      A rural-ist cheat code?
      
      Do you deny that there is a need for additional medical resource in rural areas, or in Maori communities?
      
      You say it is very unfair to candidates who miss out. Maybe. But it would also be equally unfair to say to them -: upon graduation you must work in a rural community, or you must work in a Maori community.
      
      to get into med school
      
      The program in discussion is from first -> second year. Are we even talking about the same thing?
      
      3 9
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:01pm
  - Longknives
    
    Why can only Maori Doctor’s serve Maori Communities?
    Can I demand to be seen by a White Doctor when I go to the GP or the Hospital??
    Since when has modern Medicine been ‘Race-Based’?
    
    19 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 11:58am
    - itstricky
      
      Why can only Maori Doctor’s serve Maori Communities?
      
      I can’t see anywhere anyone has said that, or implied it. Non-Maori doctors can serve in Maori communities. There’s just not enough Maori doctors in Maori communities. Just like there aren’t enough doctors in rural communities.
      
      Can I demand to be seen by a White Doctor when I go to the GP or the Hospital?
      
      You can, if you want. Just say “I don’t like this doctor, I want another one”. Perhaps you don’t get on with them. Perhaps you don’t see eye-to-eye with them. Perhaps they’ve done something you don’t like, or you don’t agree with their diagnosis. Or they just make you uncomfortable.
      
      I’ve had my share that I don’t see eye-to-eye with, and I’m sure everyone has had that at least once.
      
      The suggestion is that there people in Maori communities who would feel more comfortable with people that they can see eye-to-eye with.
      
      Since when has modern Medicine
      
      It’s nothing to do with modern medicine. This is the social/community/psychological aspect of health. Believe it or not, “doctoring” isn’t just about yes/no science.
      
      1 7
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:09pm
      - burt
        
        There’s just not enough Maori doctors in Maori communities.
        
        You are so racist – how do you look in the mirror suggesting Maori people need Maori doctors ?
        
        6 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 12:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        suggesting Maori people need Maori doctors
        
        You assertion that I am saying “X needs Y” is incorrect.
        
        I am suggesting that there are some Maori people who prefer to have doctors that they feel more comfortable with. And being more comfortable with your doctor means better outcomes for the patient.
        
        Some males prefer to have male doctors. I see nothing wrong with that. I presume you are male burt. Do you prefer a male doctor?
        
        1 6
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:05pm
      - MCos
        
        Burt, someone just said can he ask for a white doctor.
        Why don’t you take him to task?
        
        2 5
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:30pm
      - burt
        
        Because he is pointing out the racism – funny you can’t see that while defending people wanting to choose the race of their Dr.
        
        6 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:38pm
      - burt
        
        I see nothing wrong with that. I presume you are male burt. Do you prefer a male doctor?
        
        Yes, I’m male and I have a female Dr, she was highly recommended by a friend as a good Dr and I don’t give a sh1t what is inside my Dr’s pants.
        
        But sure, some people think the gender of their Dr is important. But it’s my opinion that selecting your Dr based on race is a reflection on your own racism.
        
        7 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 3:05pm
      - itstricky
        
        some people think the gender of their Dr is important
        
        You misunderstand me again.
        
        Some people are more comfortable with a Doctor of their own gender.
        
        Not everything is about “who is best?” based on what they look like. This is what you are putting across. I am talking about, for example, a woman who doesn’t feel comfortable talking about woman’s problems with a man.
        
        my opinion that selecting your Dr based on race
        
        Sure, if you are following your reasoning above “who is best?” – well he’s black/white/yellow/purple therefore he is no good.
        
        But that is not what I am suggesting. As per above.
        
        2 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 6:24pm
  - dime
    
    “Sure you would. But that’s not what they’re told.”
    
    lol if they have the brains to get into med school or get close, then how could they not read it that way?
    
    to make it even worse, once they are doctors they have people like Dime thinking – fuck, do i want to see that guy? how do i know he wasnt passed due to his race? yikes.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:12pm
    - itstricky
      
      how do i know he wasnt passed due to his race?
      
      I’m not sure how you managed to misread, or not read, the part where I said:
      
      they have to achieve the same grades as everyone else
      
      This is basically a placement program, not a “academic hand up”. You would get the same effect if, at graduation, you said “right you – Doctor X – you are going to serve in Ruatoria. You – Doctor Y – you’re going to serve in Kaitaia. Good luck everyone”.
      
      1 6
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:16pm
      - burt
        
        they have to achieve the same grades as everyone else
        
        They get more attempts at it and get more coaching on it too. In other words, they get helped across the line.
        
        7 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 12:35pm
      - itstricky
        
        They get more attempts at it
        
        I’ve not heard or read that. Where do you get this information?
        
        1 5
        Report
        September 5, 2018 1:08pm
      - itstricky
        
        And…?
        
        0 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 6:25pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  When I was at uni,, special ‘classes’, some for exam prep. were held, the rationale was that Maori, women especially, were inhibited in general lectures from asking questions etc, due to ‘whakama’, this was for a degree in Law, not a discipline where one should be shy and retiring in my opinion.
  I had the misfortune to be invited to one once by a Maori student, who clearly didn’t understand the special significance. I was made to feel like a pariah and was told that these extra lectures were paid for by tribal funds, teaching it was our normal Maori lecturer.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:41pm
slightlyrighty

Tin Foil Hat time.

Given that these trips for the PM are scheduled way in advance, Ardern must have known that making a special trip would create controversy…..so here is my time line.

Ardern plans trip, knows that this will create backlash.

PM’s office leaks details of Bridges expenses

Bridges forced to defend travel

Bridges demands speaker investigate

Speaker announces investigation

Speaker talks to PM

Invetsigation canned

Details of PMs Trip announced…….
21 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 11:20am
- MCos
  
  Dreaver probably arranged to get arrested because she’d heard there was a morning tea shout on at the police station.
  
  8 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:37pm
Richard

Govt lost its luggage and flight plan. Oh dear. Comment from RNZ no less. Tisk, tisk.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/this-government-has-lost-its-luggage-and-flight-plan/ar-BBMSytm?ocid=spartandhp
10 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 11:38am
MrTips

I’m starting to wonder if Jacinda’s got a problem with her neck. She’s always got it on a lean when listening or talking….has she seen a doctor about it? Or is it a learned lean to check for knives coming towards her back?
10 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 11:58am
- Fletch
  
  Reminds me of –
  
  https://youtu.be/g-vtCjE7OOw?t=32s
  
  0 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:12pm
  - MrTips
    
    LOL. I saw that for the first time recently on a plane. That guy didn’t have a happy ending at all…..
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 1:19pm
    - Fletch
      
      “THE ORB OF OSUVOX”… lol
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 2:20pm
- wiseowl
  
  Is she left leaning?
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:43pm
realityczech

The trash media’s Trump Derangement Syndrome is reaching new lows. Stuffed (fake) news has 4 anti Trump stories on the front page this morning.

The same media refused to print any of the monkey business of the previous president, the filthy black warlord who spread death and decay.
19 3
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 12:00pm
- dime
  
  yeah, it’s hilarious. they are going full tard.
  
  I guess they don’t want us voting Republican in November…
  
  14 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    I just ignore it. On the rare occasions I watch TV news I change channels as soon as they mention Trump – which they always do.
    
    9 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 12:46pm
    - dime
      
      yeah i refuse to click trump headlines and refuse to watch NZ news
      
      7 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 12:48pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Which must seriously limit your options to Orange County and other soapies?
      
      As well as a selection of these kind of kids TV,
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdaT5jZqVFE
      
      0 10
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 2:47pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The Hearld has as many stories today too. I’m convinced, and I won’t be voting Republican.
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:37pm
KiWombat

Today we have helicopters buzzing over the southern alps dropping 1080.

They did the ‘pre-feed’ a week or so back to attract animals to the food source, and today they are dropping the green stuff.

So from this weekend we will have deer carcases everywhere, and will need to collect and burn them. Unfortunately our dogs are often fed deer, so they will need to be kept locked up for the next few weeks.

There must be a better way !
3 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 12:15pm
- Komata
  
  KW
  
  Return them to the country of their ancestors perhaps? After all, it’s ONLY 30 milion we’re talking about – The Dandenongs and Snowies could accomodate them without even a murmer…
  
  (You have my sympathy BTW, but so far, aside from 1080, there isn’t any viable and cost-effective alternative that actually seems to work, and even the anti-1080 brigade seem disinclined to suggest an alternative, and get rather put-out if the matter is pressed. Protest is easier I guess. Good luck with the dogs).
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:28pm
  - realityczech
    
    The poisoning campaign is motivated by extremists who want all introduced animals eliminated. The bullshit you are fed about possums is massively overstated and is essentially a cover story.
    
    2 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:37pm
    - stephieboy
      
      As if you know about the situation,
      
      https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/pests-and-threats/animal-pests/possums/
      
      0 7
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 2:45pm
- Brigitte
  
  Sure is. Go to where the drop is, when the deer approach shoot them before they eat the poisoned bait. Then you can take the deer home and crank up the bbq. Not forgetting to get the beers and wines stocked and inviting everyone over for a feed.
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:29pm
- marcw
  
  Not according to our Commissioner for the Environment KiW. And your dogs are out ravaging in the countryside unsupervised how often? … but they only eat deer eh /sarc.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 12:29pm
  - KiWombat
    
    The dogs are not ravaging the countryside at all. They are working.
    
    Problem is that the deer leave the mountains to die, and if they die in our paddocks, then when the dogs find them they partake in what they find.
    
    Last time we had about 300-400 die on our property, so it is quite a task to collect them all and dispose of them !
    
    2 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 7:27pm
Longknives

This joke of a ‘Government’ lurches from one disaster to another.
Just had lunch with a friend in the Media- Rumours of something else going on Labour are desperately trying to keep under wraps…
20 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 1:37pm
- sooty
  
  Tell us more!
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:15pm
  - Longknives
    
    That’s what I said too Sooty!
    He just laughed and told me to “Watch this space”..
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 6:05pm
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      I reckon our thick PM is going to pull the pin.
      
      2 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 8:56pm
big bruv

Don’t buy Nike.
10 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 1:46pm
- Longknives
  
  An awful lot of Cops and Servicemen in America.
  And an awful lot of people who support Cops and Servicemen.
  They will hopefully boycott Nike now as well (As BLM actively encourage and openly celebrate the murder of Cops in America)
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 1:57pm
realityczech

Healthline Website Says the Term ‘Vagina’ Is No Longer Gender Inclusive – Will Start Using “Front Hole” Instead

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/healthline-website-says-the-term-vagina-is-not-gender-inclusice-will-start-using-front-hole-instead/
7 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 1:55pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What’s wrong with “front bums”?
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10119715
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:06pm
  - realityczech
    
    Not inclusive enough.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:11pm
- burt
  
  I see nothing wrong with that. I presume you are male burt. Do you prefer a male doctor?
  
  I have a front hole, in the end of my schlong. Can I now go to woman only gyms ?
  
  5 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Taxpayers fork out $1.6M for a survey to find out how useful some university courses are… but looks like we aren’t allowed to know the findings of the survey.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/rnz/universities-block-course-survey-results
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  I would have done it for a million and even kept the results completely secret.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 5:06pm
Sarkozygroupie

Tracy Watkins should come clean at this point and admit she is the Chief Press Secretary in the PM’s office, instead of pretending she is an impartial journalist. We are truly heading for a propaganda police state with this level of ‘reporting’.

And check out the readers’ comments! Those people have self-propelled into orbit with the energy of their anger!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/106799643/no-reason-for-jacinda-ardern-to-stay-home-from-pacific-forum
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:04pm
Rich Prick

Question Time. My God, Kelvin Davis is terrible.
19 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:10pm
- Manolo
  
  The token Maori minister lives up to his dismal reputation.
  You are right: Davis is unbelievably bad.
  
  14 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:18pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Claire Curran is stumbling through an interrogation by Melissa Lee about using her personal email to conduct government business. Trevor Mallard has come to the rescue!
    
    16 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:49pm
    - starboard
      
      I saw that Nosty.
      Paula Bennett is now ripping Curran and Ardern a new arsehole.
      Take note Soiman…this is how you should perform.
      
      16 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 2:56pm
- wiseowl
  
  So is Nathan Guy.
  Embarrassing
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:47pm
Fletch

By the way, Breitbart is keeping live updates for the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/live-updates-brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-hearings/
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , Kavanaugh said something you would find unacceptable. He stated that he saw himself as an umpire who had to weigh up both sides of the argument and see if it could be reconciled with the applicable law.
  
  0 12
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:42pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    Kavanaugh said something you would find unacceptable. He stated that a person who can’t control his impulsive urges, and goes to a shopping centre to perve at young girls, should be locked up for his own protection!
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 2:52pm
Jack5

Melbourne’s Sudanese refugees are trying to downplay their crime rate by comparing statistics for New Zealanders in Victoria, as well as for Australians.

Problem is that the figures indicate that Sudanese proportion of crime is ten times Sudanese proportion of population, compared with 1.3 7 times for the proportion of crime to population for New Zealanders and 1.1 times as many for Australians.

The figures show how well behaved ( in proportion) are the British and Irish immigrants in Victoria.

The Sudanese defend themselves by saying they commit only 1 per cent of crime in the state (overlooking they make only 0.1 per cent of the population).

We don’t need these Sudanese thugs in New Zealand (not that they would want to come – the Australian back door from NZ seems to swing only one way).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-05/fact-check-sudanese-gangs-victoria/10187550
9 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:48pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , your link seems to contradict your claims,
  
  The verdict
  
  Ms Nyuon’s claim checks out.
  
  According to data compiled by the Victorian research body the Crime Statistics Agency (CSA), the vast majority of crimes in Victoria are committed by Australian and New Zealand-born people.
  
  Between April 2017 and March 2018, they made up a combined 73.5 per cent of the unique offender population (those people alleged to have committed crimes) in Victoria; whereas, those born in Sudan made up 1.1 per cent.
  
  Experts told Fact Check that statistics from the CSA were an accurate representation of Victoria’s offender characteristics.
  
  Monash University Associate Professor in Criminology Rebecca Wickes said: “1 per cent of offences are being committed by those who have reported being born in South Sudan. That is accurate.”
  
  Melbourne University Professor of Criminology Mark Woods said: “Nyadol Nyuon’s claim is correct; the overwhelming majority of crime in Victoria is committed by Australian-born offenders.”
  
  This fact reflects population statistics more generally: Australian-born and New Zealand-born people account for 64.8 per cent and 1.6 per cent of Victoria’s population, respectively.
  
  In percentage terms, there is a greater disparity between population and crime rates for people born in Sudan and South Sudan, who make up just 0.14 per cent of Victoria’s population.
  
  However, experts stressed that discussions surrounding this issue fail to take into account the age profile of the Sudanese population in Victoria, which helps explain their overrepresentation in the crime statistics.”
  
  Would you like to consider next our Somali community?
  
  0 15
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 2:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    Proportions, Stephie! If one-thousandth of the population commits one hundredth of the crimes, it is a problem.
    
    And you can consider rehoming your Somalis in Stephiestan, if you really want to make them feel at home.
    
    By the way, Stephie X, where do Stephiestanis fit on the Aryan-Dravidian axis on the subcontinent? Racial origin seems to be a big thing on the subcontinent. Read about it:
    
    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2162694/why-4500-year-old-skull-key-politics-indias-hindu-muslim-divide
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:11pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Splitting fine hairs there.
      
      This is the germane point from your link,
      
      “So the Hindu Right has struggled to prove that the people of the Indus Valley were Hindus and that today’s Indians are directly descended from them.”
      
      The Indus civilization flourished at a time when the three Abrahamic religions did not exist save perhaps the Hebrews.
      
      0 9
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 5:47pm
EAD_TWO

Best mock up of the Nike ad

https://mobile.twitter.com/Frexecution/status/1036771045078777856/photo/1

Sure to get stupidboys back up 🙂
7 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:52pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO , this link here gets the flavour of the White supremacist Freexucation that you seem to find so endearing ,
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/Frexecution
  
  0 10
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:01pm
  - realityczech
    
    Haters gonna hate
    
    2 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:07pm
    - stephieboy
      
      kea, Herr Hitler? I agree!
      
      “If The Jews succeed in touching off another war, the result will not be the Bolshevization of Europe, and therefore victory for the Jews, but rather the result will be the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe.”
      
      Put a lump in your throat?
      
      2 13
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 3:15pm
realityczech

Stefan Molyneux reflects on the attacks in New Zealand and Australia by left wing extremists. Now YouTube are working to de-platform him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CKniE7PGuw

The proper response to the left should now be a military one. These people are dangerous and violent. They are way more of a threat than Islamic extremists.

Better listen while you can. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc are collectively shutting people down and de-platforming them.
10 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  kea ,
  
  Molyneux does not have a very flattering view of Isalm too,
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef1LCIvF6eU
  
  0 17
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    Nor do I. What is your point stupidboy?
    
    13 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:09pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Oh, do you? Lifes full surprises.
      
      0 15
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 3:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

NZ Parliament , Oral Questions, 5 Sept

Question 12: MELISSA LEE to the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media: Does she stand by all her statements and actions?

Oh no, there’s not MORE to come, is there?
12 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:54pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  It was hilarious. Just wait for the Left to call Lee a racist for picking on Curran so much.
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:23pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Here it is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLy2b3wycFI&feature=youtu.be
    Curran is out of her depth.
    Melissa Lee is all class
    
    12 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 4:10pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes seeing Clair Curran in that video at 1:15 bumbling and stuttering was hilarious.
      And she is Minister of Communications!
      
      14 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:23pm
      - Komata
        
        Curran walked right into it, eyes WIDE open and with a smirk on her face! How quickly that smirk disappeared. ‘Twas a delight to see. Go Ms Lee. Memo to Simon B ; THAT is the sort of effort we expect from you – perhaps Ms Lee shoukd give you some lessons?
        
        7 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 6:35pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yep, she could give Simon some lessons in English enunciation.
        
        5 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 6:46pm
Manolo

Wonderful Africa. A racist state goes down the gurgler:
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/09/04/south-africa-in-recession-after-land-threat-shocking-drop-in-agriculture/

South Africa slid into an official recession Tuesday, as second-quarter growth domestic product figures showed a contraction of 0.7% — the second straight quarter of decline. First-quarter figures were revised down, from -2.2% to -2.6%.

The main culprit, according to South Africa’s Business Day, was a sharp contraction in the agricultural sector, which has been under political assault this year as the ruling African National Congress has pledged “expropriation without compensation.”
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 2:58pm
- realityczech
  
  There Are No Successful Black Nations
  
  And the indignity and helplessness of blacks in America won’t end until we have a first-world African nation to lift up our people.
  
  [Spoiler alert: Its YT’s fault]
  
  https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/09/there-are-no-successful-black-nations-africa-diginty-racism-pan-africanism/
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:11pm
  - stephieboy
    
    kea, are you proposing the white reconquest and recolonization of Africa?
    
    0 16
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:20pm
  - Longknives
    
    You forgot Wakanda!
    
    https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article201752194.html
    
    Apparently if White People hadn’t colonised Africa the whole Continent would have been idyllic…(*Cough)
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:30pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I think that Ethiopia and Rwanda and Ghana are doing reasonably well.
    But yes sadly Africa is a basket case, caused mainly by tribal rivalries and huge corruption.
    Its going to take hundreds of years to infuse democracy into their veins.
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 4:25pm
realityczech

South Africa: Failed State INCOMING

What we would expect from a country that venerates are violent communist terrorist. The blacks will get what they deserve and they will do it to themselves.
8 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:01pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  a country that venerates are violent communist terrorist.
  
  Don’t look behind the curtain Goy:
  
  https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/145636/mandelas-jewish-helpers
  
  And if you’re wondering about (((Tablet Mag))) – it is most likely a neo-nazi Mag according to Wiki:
  
  Tablet is an American Jewish online magazine founded in 2009 by Jewish non-profitNextbook.[1] It is generally regarded as an influential address for high-level reporting and arguments regularly cited by the New York Times, the Washington Post, Associated Press, The New Yorker, and others, and has a stable of Pulitzer-Prize-winning writers and editors as well as two National Magazine Awards.
  
  1 7
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:05pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO , continuing with your weird and twisted view of the world, “Let’s blame the Jews”
    
    As Pat Condell suggests go and visit your Doctor
    
    4 11
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:10pm
    - realityczech
      
      “As Pat Condell suggests ”
      
      stupidboy, is that old zionist biggot still pretending to be an atheist?
      
      He is on the lunatic fringe of zionism, most Jews think he is over the top.
      
      2 4
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 3:13pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Indeed – behind every Commie revolution that is on the face of it African/Chinese/Venezuelan the tribe is always there if only you look close enough:
    
    http://jewishjournal.com/news/world/179731/
    
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/venezuelas-anti-semitic-leader-admits-jewish-ancestry/
    
    And let’s not forget the original Judeo-Bolsheviks 🙂
    
    1 5
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:11pm
    - realityczech
      
      The form of communism that arose in Russia was entirely the work of Jews. They openly admit it. The most murderous ideology in history with hundreds of millions killed.
      
      2 7
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 3:15pm
      - Jack5
        
        ‼Kearealityczech‼ Inside the bird brain:
        
        Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews,Jews, Jews, Jews …
        
        Morning to fucking night …. This is parrot cage fever.
        
        9 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:26pm
      - realityczech
        
        It makes a change from your ranting about Muslims, Chinese, Maori, blacks etc Jacksie.
        
        You are a zionist bigot and hatemonger who tells lies.
        
        2 6
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:29pm
      - Jack5
        
        ?? ??
        
        There was one sick ❗Kea,❗ writing on the wall,
        One sick ❗Kea,❗ writing on the wall,
        And if that sick ❗Kea❗ should accidentally fall,
        There’d be no more Jew hate written on the wall.
        
        Definition:
        
        Psittacosis—also known as parrot fever, and ornithosis—is a zoonotic infectious disease caused by a bacterium called Chlamydia psittaci and contracted from infected parrots, such as macaws, cockatiels and budgerigars, and keas.
        
        ?
        
        5 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:39pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie explain to readers why hating Jews would be bad, but your hate of Muslims, Blacks, Asians, Maori etc is okay?
        
        Then explain why Jews should not be held to account for their wrongs the same as everyone else is?
        
        2 3
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        Naughty ‼Kearealityczech‼
        
        Who has been doing the ranting about (black) African hero Mandela?
        
        2 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 5:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        He was a sadistic animal who used to put burning tyres over his black oponents and burn them alive.
        
        No doubt you would approve of that if Jews did it.
        
        2 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 5:13pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO, Stalin? Beria , Voroshilov, Molotov, Brezhnev, Khrushchev , Kosygin, Andropov??
      
      2 9
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:32pm
      - Jack5
        
        Don’t forget Lenin, though some think his grandmother may have been part Jewish, which would make the part-Kalmyk, part-Russian revolutionary about as Jewish genetically as Adolf Hitler.
        
        2 2
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:43pm
- stephieboy
  
  kea , he was not a violent terrorist. No more than the American Revolutionaries who overthrew British rule.
  
  3 14
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:21pm
  - realityczech
    
    Mandela was backed by the murderous Soviets. He did not want to free blacks from apartheid – he wanted to enslave them under authoritarian communism.
    
    6 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:35pm
    - stephieboy
      
      “.. he wanted to enslave them under authoritarian communism.”
      
      But never did. Fact!
      
      0 11
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:34pm
      - realityczech
        
        Because he went to prison for plotting to set bombs in shopping centers. Fact.
        
        10 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 4:39pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea, that was what the Apartheid government claimed It was in regard to the Sharpeville massacre that forced him to consider an armed struggle. In a similar manner that the American revolutionaries did the same,
        
        http://time.com/5338569/nelson-mandela-terror-list/
        
        0 8
        Report
        September 5, 2018 5:55pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Plead guilty to charges of treason, terrorism, sedition, and murder but don’t let that spoil your day.
    
    2 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:00pm
- Komata
  
  RC: Don’t tell John Minto, he’ll be so pleased .
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:13pm
Jack5

An influential Hong Kong newspaper says Taiwan-allied Nauru moves to shut out China diplomats nearly derailed the Pacific gathering. The newspaper, the South China Morning Post, is owned by Chinese e-commerce billionaire Jack Ma.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2162643/taiwan-ally-naurus-snub-beijing-threatened-derail-pacific
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:01pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Jack5:
  
  Thanks for that link – very interesting.
  
  This statement caught my eye:
  
  China does not belong to the PIF but is one of 18 countries that attends as a “dialogue partner” for discussions with member nations.
  
  It’s interesting that China attends to keep a watchful eye on the talkfest (and no doubt to provide guidance when any China-aligned PIF member goes off-script). But another 17 countries?! I can’t even begin to guess which ones they are.
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:09pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    The Pacific Islands Forum secretariat website states:
    
    Since 1989, the Forum has held Post Forum Dialogues with key Dialogue Partners at Ministerial level.
    
    There are currently 18 partners – Canada, People’s Republic of China, Cuba, European Union, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Malaysia, Philippines, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, United Kingdom and the United States.
    
    That’s a surprising list, and indicates a bit of geopolitical maneuvering is going on.
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:23pm
  - UpandComer
    
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-raises-fears-apos-colonialism-173840507.html
    
    China is investing $60billion in Africa.
    
    Strategy:
    
    Lend Money
    Allow native ownership with Chinese workforce that ensures default on loan but retains build integrity
    Upon second default, repatriate.
    
    China is going to take Africa.
    
    5 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:31pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Its a bit hard to take away a road or a railway or a bridge.
      But China will end up getting control of their other assets.
      
      5 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:16pm
    - Komata
      
      Upandcommer: Going to? No, already has, in a policy which is effectively ‘Colonisation without bloodshed’. The CCP through the PRC yare more in control than you would think, and yes, NZ is now part of the family; the ‘Dairy’ bit actually; Crafar Farms is but one such example…
      
      3 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 6:43pm
- realityczech
  
  Gee Jacksie, what should we do with all these Arabs, Blacks, Asians and other sub-races? Shall we round them up and put them in camps for removal like they are in Israel?
  
  0 7
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:20pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, good idea.
    Though not the east asians.
    
    1 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 4:15pm
Fletch

The Left have completely lost their minds re: Kavanaugh. Now they are accusing an aide sitting behind him of making a “white power” symbol with her hand.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/desperate-progressives-smear-kavanaugh-aide-as-white-supremacist/

Desperation is showing.
7 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:15pm
- Ross12
  
  The rent-a-crowd has been caught out
  
  “TOM SCHLUETER, TEXAS: Hello, I’m Dr. Tom Schlueter from Texas, we came here to participate in the hearings, to get in the line. They told us to be here at 8:00, 8:30 at the latest, to get in line to go inside and hear the hearings. We got here at about 8:15 and there was already 100 people in line, and most of them would be probably classified by me as ‘opposing everything going on with Judge Kavanaugh,’ and so we began to see a process of things unfolding as we were standing in line that kept the line from going ahead.
  
  One thing was there were people who had come along… who had a bag of money, and people would hand them a piece of paper, and then they would give them money. So we know money was exchanged for some of the people to be here, just to protest.
  
  There was no depth to what their understanding, they were just here to be a disruption, protesters. They were actually told, we heard them say this, ‘when you go in, we want you to yell, to scream, and even possibly to get arrested.’ So that was some of the processes we saw happening… ”
  
  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/texas-doctors-at-kavanaugh-hearing-say-they-saw-liberal-protesters-paid-with-a-literal-bag-of-cash-video/
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 5:05pm
Fletch

I see Marama Fox has stepped down as co-leader of the Maori Party.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/09/marama-fox-steps-down-as-co-leader-of-the-maori-party.html
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:22pm
- Manolo
  
  Crook down, crook down!
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:31pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    So the Labour hit worked (to remove threat to Labour if Meka the Muss resigns from this electorate that Fox has previously contested). Mind you Fox deserves it.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:58pm
realityczech

This is an alternative to YouTube that maintains freedom of expression.

Please support it: https://www.bitchute.com/
5 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:29pm
- realityczech
  
  Oh look – they must be worried:
  
  “BitChute, a P2P alternative to YouTube, was just deplatformed by its payment processor Stripe”
  
  https://www.reddit.com/r/AFTERTHESTQRM/comments/98krrl/bitchute_a_p2p_alternative_to_youtube_was_just/
  
  4 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:45pm
  - realityczech
    
    Controversial YouTubers head to alternative platforms in wake of ‘purge’
    
    https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/7/17087668/steemit-dtube-bitchute-youtube-purge
    
    4 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 3:46pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nutcase You tubers you must mean?
      
      Surely?
      
      0 14
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 4:37pm
Odakyu-sen

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12119555

I would have thought that someone who was familiar with oxy-acetylene welding would know that mixing a fuel and oxidizer together is how you create a bomb.

How could this kind of accident be avoided? Education?
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 3:50pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Darwin candidate. Blatant stupidity and being a smartarse
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 3:59pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Here is what I think. You can not buy acetylene so the guy milked it from work – into an LPG bottle. Acetylene is a liquid ok , same as LPG. Things went wrong after that. I don’t think you could get an oxy/acet mixture into an empty LPG bottle above about 25 PSI.
    There is more to this. Oxy in the bottle is 2500 PSI+ Acetylene is say 300 PSI max, maybe just 240.
    I don’t think all of the facts are being reported – plus the first photo shows a guy with a TIG torch ffs
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 6:50pm
- burt
  
  I think we need to ban all oxy-acetylene welding by anyone who is not wearing a high viz jacket with 17 other people supervising.
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:07pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Man that’s sad. Guy obviously had some go and initiative but needed a mentor or friends with more brains to deal with the lack of basic science education.
  
  Can’t legislate stupidity away
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:55pm
Sarkozygroupie

Tracey Watkins is the gift that keeps on giving!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106830732/What-is-Winston-Peters-up-to-in-refugee-spat
10 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 4:02pm
- dime
  
  “There is huge global interest in Ardern as the Left’s antidote to Donald Trump; young, female, liberal and the face of compassionate government.”
  
  LMAO yeah. shes a world leader. honest.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:03pm
  - cmm
    
    Yup she is a world leader in an L&P “world famous in New Zealand” sort of way.
    
    Except in this case it’s “world famous in MSM luvvie-land”.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 4:09pm
  - Longknives
    
    “There is huge global interest in Ardern ”
    
    Utter Bollocks!
    I’ve spoken to two friends who live overseas about Ardern.
    One is a lawyer in Aussie who asked “Is she as bad as they say? and “Is it true she’s a Communist?
    The other is an Engineer in Scotland. He asked- “Is that the weird-looking lady with the huge mouth?”
    So I’m not convinced Ardern is the ‘ International Megastar’ she clearly thinks she is…
    
    18 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 4:10pm
- sooty
  
  He’s put the anionted PM in firmly in her place.
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:04pm
DigNap15

My Maori Language Lessons.
I am very annoyed that someone is trying to take away my students.

I went to my local Z today to buy some petrol.
They had a nice printed sign up telling me how to order a coffee in Maori.

The word for “Can I have” is “He”.

The guy behind the counter was Parmit.
8 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 4:13pm
- Nostradamus
  
  DigNap15:
  
  It’s Mahuru Māori – Māori language month:
  
  Te Puni Kōkiri Chief Executive Michelle Hippolite says the Ministry is proud to support Mahuru Māori – an initiative that challenges people to only speak te reo Māori for the month of September.
  …
  More than 3,000 people have registered for Mahuru Māori this year which is more than double the number of people who challenged themselves to speak te reo Māori during September last year. People can choose whether to commit to speaking Māori for the whole month, one week or one day a week.
  
  People can speak in te reo Māori if they like, but there’s a risk of ordering a flat white and receiving a latte instead, or perhaps nothing at all!
  
  Is a “flat white” in your Maori dictionary by the way (under coffee, not cannibalism)?
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 4:32pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    No mention (or much mention in the Herald) of Typhoon 21 that tore up through the middle of Japan yesterday. What a mess!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgL9mKowRMw
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 5:40pm
  - KevOB
    
    The more they toy with the language like they are doing the more it’s unsuitability for serious use is demonstrated.
    
    They are 40 years too late in having teachers available. Now they must expect an increasing downward spiral. Compulsion won’t help. Wot words iz dere, hoo cairs, wairz da teaches?
    
    A month of this?
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 5:49pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Perhaps TVNZ could take a few English language lessons.
  WTF is a plumb?
  And why would anyone put one in their mouth?
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/waitangi-treaty-grounds-trust-ex-employee-plumb-size-coconut-says-sorry-1-2m-fraud
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 5:48pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    “a plumb the size of a coconut”
    – sounds like a lead balloon, to me.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 6:28pm
Prince

Claire Curran in the gun again, using her personal email for govt business.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106851077/embattled-minister-clare-curran-struggles-to-explain-using-personal-email-for-government-business
Mallard tries to ride to the rescue accusing previous govt of doing the same in foreign affairs.
Curran must go but what the hell is Mallard thinking acting like this ? How can he be respected as Speaker when he so often discards his role to come to the rescue of these clowns.
15 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 5:45pm
- Longknives
  
  Curran looked like she was about to burst into tears during questioning- She clearly isn’t coping.
  Seriously Labour-When are you going to put this out of it’s misery??
  You aren’t doing her- Or yourselves any favours by hanging onto this trainwreck…
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 6:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh grief, can you believe this Stuff article?
  
  Stacey Kirk is comparing Curran’s incompetence to that of Hillary Clinton’s.
  
  It pales in comparison to the email controversy surrounding former United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during her 2016 presidential run against US President Donald Trump, but has raised similar questions over security and transparency of information.
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 6:22pm
  - realityczech
    
    “She was not forthcoming with a response about why she used her Gmail account for official business from “time to time”.
    
    Remember this woman was considered the most transparent and least corrupt among them. This is only what we know about. Imagine if the media dug dirt the way they did with National!
    
    11 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 6:56pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Clare Clinton? no sorry Hillary Curran – sorry, my head hurts
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:03pm
- niggly
  
  Crikey if Stuff are now reporting it, look what Jacinda will be coming home to tomorrow …. more questions about Curren’s competence and why didn’t Jacinda simply “do a Helen” and “lop Curran’s head off” a long time ago?
  
  Plus another reminder that Jacinda is a weak, ineffectual Prime Minister.
  
  Jacinda needs to lift her game before the MSM’s whispers (in articles) about questioning her competence as a leader start getting louder. Just saying ….
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:54pm
nasska

…..” open justice is the “keenest spur to exertion and the surest of all guards against improbity”.”…..

Jeremy Bentham, English jurist 1748-1832

Unless of course you happen to be in NZ & facing charges of indecent assault at a Labour Party youth camp. Then the judge will likely say something along the lines of:

…..”the application argued that making the man’s name public would cause extreme hardship to him and members of his family, and create a risk of not having a fair trial.”…..

Open justice -Yeah Right.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/labour-party-youth-camp-accused-allowed-keep-his-name-secret-until-any-trial-ends
9 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 6:47pm
- realityczech
  
  This is a disgrace from start to finnish. Labour activist Mike Bush allowed Labour time to construct a story, get their media insiders to spin the story and bully witnesses before the police investigation even began. Now the judiciary are in the cover up.
  
  There needs to be a full inquiry into the actions of Labour and the Police.
  
  I can’t see the children getting any justice and the media seemed unconcerned about them.
  
  13 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 6:52pm
  - nasska
    
    Justice will run a distant second. The agenda is to exonerate the pervert & protect the Labour Party.
    
    Nothing more & nothing less!
    
    9 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 6:55pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Who plied the young folk with booze?
      
      8 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 6:57pm
      - nasska
        
        Good (so far unanswered) question. Another would be why the police haven’t charged anyone with supplying liquor to a minor.
        
        Bearing in mind that the same police are quite happy to charge publicans, club owners & even parents who supply alcohol to teenagers.
        
        9 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:02pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Get alongside McCready and bceome a serial litigant.
        
        Plenty of parents have supplied liquor to minors as after school ball,!st XV etc celebrations demonstrate.
        
        Your parents never ever gave you a tipple at sixteen?
        
        1 14
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:07pm
      - realityczech
        
        Wellington is a self serving cesspit. Most decisions are made behind closed doors with no official records made. Things are rarely what they seem.
        
        5 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:09pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stupid boy
        The offence is supplying liquor to minors without parental consent
        Youve been told this numerous times but you’re so dumb you still don’t get it.
        
        9 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:10pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”Your parents never ever gave you a tipple at sixteen?”….
        
        Nope. I was at boarding school & had to brew my own. Thinly sliced apples, sugar & raisins in coke bottles.
        
        Terrible taste but it produced a bit of a buzz!
        
        10 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:11pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Your parents never ever gave you a tipple at sixteen?”
        
        Is that the line you try on those little Muslim girls stupidboy?
        
        12 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Your parents never ever gave you a tipple at sixteen?
        
        What don’t you comprehend, stephieboy?
        
        Consuming a tipple in the presence of your parents is most unlikely to lead to your sexual abuse at the hands of an unwelcome youth.
        
        (Anyway, at the age of 16, I was telling my old man and step-ma to get the half-G off the table, as I wanted to set the table for dinner….)
        
        12 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:18pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Well, All on Red the organisers of the summer camp have not been charged and it is quite likely in the police’s experience a common happening breaking up rowdy parties etc, parental consent or not.
      
      0 13
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 7:16pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        OMG
        The stupid one has finally caught up that the organisers haven’t been charged.
        Well dumbass, that’s the point. They should be.
        4 people got sexually assaulted. Liquor probably had a lot to do with it. The organisers should wear some responsibility
        But you’re probably ok with sexual assault given your ‘habits’
        
        11 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:21pm
    - stephieboy
      
      kea ,
      
      “One’s dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
      
      ― Michael J. Fox
      
      Reported for that nasty, despicable, vile post! You too All On red for same!
      
      1 13
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 7:24pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Well, looking on the bright side. I guess we can be thankful you’ve stopped linking to Porn sites!
        You lost your dignity on KB a looong time ago.
        
        10 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:27pm
      - realityczech
        
        Report away. Make sure you include your deviant ramblings about young girls.
        
        9 1
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:29pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, Ivanka Trump a porn starf follwoing in Dad;’s footseps re Strmy Daniesl etc ?
        
        Hope not!
        
        1 13
        Report
        September 5, 2018 7:33pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Kea,’
    
    “Now the judiciary are in the cover up.”
    
    ???
    
    1 12
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 7:03pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Fuck you are a tool Stephie.
      
      8 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 7:58pm
Steve (North Shore)

Where is Air Force one and two right now?
Shitloads of activity today on the Shore. This one, that one sporting different flying patterns.
Look at me, look at me NZ MSM, we are important – we do shit to protect you.
Oh, all quiet now – it is dark outside.
Is the Queen back home to feed the baayybbeee?
Did the baayybee get flown up to Whenuapai to get on the tit?
Lots of activity over the Shore – just saying
8 2
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 6:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  Steve (North Shore), you’re not still lamenting the end of the strike arm of the RNZAF?
  
  0 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:10pm
- realityczech
  
  Someone needs to to an official information request to find how much tax payer money has been spent flying its spore around for photo ops.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:32pm
  - stephieboy
    
    kea, you can start the ball rolling!.
    
    0 10
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 7:43pm
DigNap15

Yes, we never hear from Mike Bush.
The previous police commissioner was on tv quite often.
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 7:08pm
- realityczech
  
  He is busy working on cover-ups for Labour. He has a bit of work on right now.
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:40pm
stephieboy

DONALD TRUMP’S APPROVAL RATING HAS PLUNGED AND SO HAVE REPUBLICANS’ MIDTERM CHANCES, NEW POLL INDICATES

A strong majority of voters favor a Democrat over a Republican in their district races, a potentially damaging sign for President Donald Trump and the GOP ahead of the fall’s critical midterm elections, according to the results of a new poll released Tuesday.

Fifty-two percent of registered voters said they would pick a Democrat over a Republican, with only 38 percent selecting the GOP, the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll showed.

The poll reflected deeply partisan results around the country. Ninety-six percent of Democrats would pick a member of their own party, while 92 percent of Republicans would do the same. The Democrats, however, drew 50 percent of independents and Republicans only 32 percent.
Democrats improved their standing with the general public by four points, based on the same poll’s results in April. But Democrats were also up by 12 percent in January.

The new results also nearly mirror Trump’s disapproval ratings in many major polls. Late last month, both Gallup and Emerson University pegged Trump’s disapproval rating at 53 percent, while the Economist/YouGov poll found 52 percent disapproved of the president.

The USA Today/Suffolk University poll showed 56 percent disapproved, while the Reuters/Ipsos poll was even worse for the president, with 57 percent disapproving.

Trump and his allies have increasingly painted this year’s midterms as a referendum on his first 19 months in office, claiming Democrats would undo his work and even impeach the president if they assume power in the House…”

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-republicans-midterms-1103829

Intersesting…!
0 11
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 7:41pm
- realityczech
  
  Trump’s approval rating tops Obama’s at same point in presidency
  
  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/8/trump-approval-rating-tops-obamas-same-point-presi/
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:48pm
  - stephieboy
    
    kea,
    
    “By Victor Morton – The Washington Times – Thursday, February 8, 2018”
    
    Things change rapidly for such an inept President!
    
    0 9
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:04pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    From 2nd August
    ‘President Donald Trump received an approval rating 5 points higher than his predecessor, Barack Obama, achieved 18 months into his first term in office, according to a new poll released Thursday.’
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-obama-higher-1054927
    
    5 Points higher!!!
    ?
    
    7 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:11pm
All_on_Red

PERVWATCH
A division of Groperwatch
Today we look at one of Kiwiblogs Biggest Creeps.

‘19,565 COMMENTS
stephieboy
Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
Thumb up 7 Thumb down 36REPLY REPORTAUGUST 21, 2016 8:51AM’

‘Honeypots’!!!
And this;
Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
Thumb up 1 Thumb down 16REPLY REPORTDECEMBER 3, 2015 2:26

Wow, just wow.
PERVWATCH is brought to you as a public service
Stephieboy is PERV #1
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 7:43pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Wed Herring.con, get over yourself and your mad compuslsive obsessions.
  
  https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/obsessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd/index.shtml
  
  0 14
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:47pm
- realityczech
  
  “with their children . Two of these honeypots .”
  
  I believe he was talking about the “children” AoR
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:51pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    It’s pretty awful isn’t it.
    I suspect when he tells others to see a Doctor it’s probably a subconscious plea for help
    http://www.stopitnow.org/help-guidance/online-help-center/worried-about-an-adults-behavior
    
    10 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 7:56pm
    - realityczech
      
      I know. I imagine the local Muslim community is distraught about his ramblings and concerned about their children.
      
      8 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 7:57pm
      - starboard
        
        There’s a name for it, something about a file…
        Filthy bastard..
        
        10 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 8:32pm
- nasska
  
  You left out his comment on Poppa’s nipples! 🙂
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:51pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy on 2 July 2018:
    
    Poppa, did your Dentist feel and squeeze your nipples?
    
    The two quotes reproduced by All on Red refer to children. I assume Poppa is an adult so, in Stephieboy’s strange world, it probably qualifies as an adult joke.
    
    5 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:16pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And another contributor’s underwear.
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:22pm
    - sooty
      
      He wanted me to stick a plastic bag on my head and kill my self!
      
      7 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 5, 2018 9:29pm
      - sooty
        
        How come stephie is not on Morris Dancers list?
        
        7 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:31pm
      - sooty
        
        Stephie, ever been to a Labour sex camp?
        
        8 0
        Report
        September 5, 2018 9:33pm
wreck1080

Sounds like the chinese govt is ramping up efforts to nail chinese tax evaders big time….might hit the auckland property market ….

Chinese Tax Authorities Join Hunt for $21 Trillion in Overseas Assets

The top story in the finance section in China on Tuesday morning is about the Chinese government’s hunt for hidden assets (and unpaid taxes) overseas.

The article mentions Australia and New Zealand freezing accounts from customers who don’t identify if they are foreign taxpayers. It goes on to say many of the frozen accounts belong to Chinese residents, warns that more account freezes are coming and that in September, the Australian and New Zealand governments will begin sharing information with China’s tax department.
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 7:44pm
- stephieboy
  
  I wonder where Tyler Durden dredged what seems to like a pile of hogwash from?
  
  Ideas?
  
  Zero Hedge is a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name “Tyler Durden,” after the character from Fight Club.Wikipedia’s W.svg It’s essentially apocalypse porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions…”
  
  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
  
  2 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 7:57pm
Happychappy

I didn’t realise Penny Bright had been given days to live and with her 64th birthday todày I wish her well in her fight.
16 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 7:56pm
- renderer
  
  While I never agreed with Penny in her ideals and rorts it is bloody sad for her to finish this way. Best wishes in her final battle
  
  14 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:01pm
- nasska
  
  I can’t think of anything that Penny stood for that I ever agreed with but it’s sad to see her go this way. I never thought that anything, including the back of an axe, would kill her.
  
  Cancer is a bitch.
  
  18 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:03pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Pretty sad really. She’s still quite young.
  
  12 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Well that’s not the news we want to hear about the Public Watchdog.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12119799
  
  I hope she’s pain-free; she doesn’t look very comfortable.
  
  15 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:13pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Can’t kill a weed Maggy, you know that, I am sure. I am surprised that she isn’t posting on KB from her bed.
    
    6 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 8:35pm
KevinH

Best wishes to Penny as she faces her biggest challenge.
Without doubt she proved to be a tough old chook and although she ruffled a few feathers in her time she always remained steadfast.
Arohanui Penny.
16 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:09pm
- starboard
  
  Safe journey Public Watchdog
  
  11 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 8:29pm
ex-golfer

So NZ First – who campaigned on removing race-based electoral seats (or at the very least having a binding referendum on them), has just voted in Parliament to entrench the Maori seats.

Anyone surprised?
12 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:51pm
- ex-golfer
  
  And in return, Ardern has caved in over the refugee situation and will no longer pursue increasing the intake.
  
  One one trade-off for another.
  
  Something makes me think that NZ First supporters will be getting more and more confused about what they really voted for!
  
  2 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 11:08pm
dime

Just saw the story about penny in the herald.

Very sad.

Hope she’s pain free and comfortable.

Cancer really is a bitch
13 1
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 8:53pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  All I can say is at least Auckland Council had the decency to let her estate sort out the rates arrears rather than forcing it on a terminally ill woman.
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 5, 2018 9:13pm
  - fernglas
    
    Most people just see the acerbic face of obsessive protest when they see Penny, but I have met her on a few occasions and can say that she is also a charming and funny woman who has a great heart. If you see this, Penny, all the best.
    
    10 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 5, 2018 9:24pm
- alex Masterley
  
  agreed.
  Didn’t agree with the way she went about things but I did admire her determination.
  She appears to be facing her new foe with the same determination but sadly the outcome will not change.
  
  1 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 6, 2018 6:13am
Inandout

Enough to give stephie a heart attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=149&v=FyVAvOQVcxY
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 9:07pm
howitis

The Sandringham Slapper is being snotted in the comments section of the Daily Mail for her extravagant trip blowing 100 $$$Grand of taxpayer money in 24 hours without even touching the subject of Fuel usage after shutting down NZs Oil and Gas.

It is morning now in the UK so the comments are piling on.
203 as at now.
Many anti-Commie.
Many of the Brits identify with Labour waste.

The watered down Aussies at Stuff would have shut off comments long ago and Pravda/Herald does not even allow them as it knows it is completely out of step with reality.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6129941/New-Zealands-PM-criticised-spending-41-00-flight-spend-time-baby.html#reader-comments
7 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 5, 2018 10:05pm
Jack5

The Labour-Greens Mis-Government looks as though it favours selecting scientific work force by gender and ethnicity.

What a bunch of mad losers. For our tiny country, would they recruit a science work force on a basis like this? A white males, B white females, C white lesbians, D white gays, E white transgender, F Maori males …. Pasifika transgender …. Chinese males …. Indian females … Muslim males … African females …. All to precisely reflect the group’s proportion of the national population?

Utopian dreams, hallucinations, psychotic delusions …. the Government’s got them.

Here’s the nub of a relevant report at Red Radio:

“Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods said science was one of the worst sectors in New Zealand for diversity.

“Women are more than 50 percent of our graduates in this field, but only 32 percent of our scientific workforce.

“Only 12 percent of engineers in New Zealand are women and alarmingly only 2 percent of our scientific workforce is Maori and Pasifika,” she said.

Woods as Minister of Research, Science, and Innovation? I think her master’s degree was on the history of feminism. Would she know the positive end of an AA battery from the negative end?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/365857/only-2-percent-of-our-scientific-workforce-is-maori-and-pasifika
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 6, 2018 8:37pm
- realityczech
  
  “science was one of the worst sectors in New Zealand for diversity.”
  
  The worst sectors are sewerage workers and rubbish truck workers. Women should be forced into those jobs too.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 6, 2018 8:44pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Just 2% of Early Childhood teachers are male.
    http://fatherandchild.org.nz/magazine/issue-36/critically-endangered-male-pre-school-teachers/
    
    2 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 6, 2018 9:04pm
- All_on_Red
  
  How awful that Minister Woods is saying women arent capable of choosing their own careers.
  How patronising.
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  September 6, 2018 8:53pm
  - realityczech
    
    If women won’t chose those job for themselves then they will have to be sent to Labour camps. There is nothing else for it.
    
    3 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    September 6, 2018 8:59pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Yes and made to listen to Clare Curran and Kelvin Davis trying to answer questions until they change their ways.
      
      1 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      September 6, 2018 9:24pm
Maggy Wassilieff

New Wellington Children’s Hospital – Construction to start in a couple of weeks.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/106845102/full-steam-ahead-for-wellingtons-new-childrens-hospital-as-construction-begins
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
September 6, 2018 8:40pm

Add a Comment Cancel reply

Login to comment or vote

« Twyford right to override Auckland Council

Youth smoking continues to fall »

Donations

You can now donate to Kiwiblog

Exclusive content from DPF on Patreon

Become a Patron!

Never miss a post

Email Address

Join 37.4K other subscribers

Highlights

Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments
Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times
Health Target 2 – Immunisations

Links

Point of Order: Buzz from the Beehive - 15/11/24
Breaking Views
Shock & Surprise: Lawyers oppose removal of lawyers' gravy train
Not PC
Proposals to pay to enter national parks are included in DOC discussion papers which remind us of Treaty obligations
Point of Order
MEDIAWATCH: Willie Jackson’s fiery speech that had Gallery cheering
The Daily Blog
Government only partially adheres to Waitangi Tribunal order, as tensions heat up
No Minister
Sowell says
Hompaddock
Marsden Fund goes even more woke
Utopia
Justified outrage
The Standard
D-day for the government
No Right Turn
A NEW DEGREE COURSE FOR MASSEY
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
A Day of Reckoning
NZCPR
“Trans & Pregnant” – Biology trumps gender ideology
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Pretty (il)legal
Croaking Cassandra
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

editor@kiwiblog.co.nz

PO Box 12270, Thorndon, Wellington 6144

Facebook
Twitter
FourSquare
Instagram
LinkedIn
Google+

Archives
Disclosure Statement
Editorial Policy
Privacy Policy
Complaints Policy
Comments Policy

Design by cre8d