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timmydevo

Happy Father’s Day!

The world needs more dads that are dads – present, show love and demonstrate resilience. May all the dads out there role model these attributes. Enjoy today gents!
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September 2, 2018 8:05am
- Longknives
  
  There will be a gushing Clarke Gayford story doing the Media rounds by mid morning…
  ‘OMG he is just sooo awesome!’
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:13am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Pass me the barf bag . . . .
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:26am
  - pdm
    
    Mid morning be buggered – I heard him spouting off at 8am.
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:56am
  - artemisia
    
    That would be ‘amazeballs’.
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:59am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    The left hates dads
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:59am
    - Harkman
      
      Yep for them Anika Moa is the real hero(ine)
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:10am
  - RF
    
    Too bloody late.
    
    I turned on the radio thus morning and heard that the serial lover had advice for new fathers –
    
    Always keep a clean cloth in your pocket. Maybe to remove DNA ?.
    
    Then if Squirrel could speak he would ask her why she smiles at the curtains and not grandma. FFS.
    
    I am now off to ED to have my head stitched up after banging it repeatedly on my breakfast table.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:01am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Longknives:
    
    Clarke has to settle for a shared front-page spread on the NZ Herald website: Father’s Day special: The baby daddies of Parliament share their stories of fatherhood
    
    Featuring:
    – Clarke Gayford
    – Simon Bridges
    – Dion Prime (husband of Labour MP Willow-Jean Prime)
    – Tim van de Molen
    – Kris Faafoi
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:04am
    - sooty
      
      Who’s Tim van de Molen?
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:28am
      - Nostradamus
        
        I hadn’t heard of him either, Sooty, but apparently he’s a National MP and 24,560 people voted for him at the last election.
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:32am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        He is my MP in the Waikato – good MP and a good person.
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:33am
      - stigie
        
        Thought you would’ve voted for him Chuck..?
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:45am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Replaced Lindsay Tisch.
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:27pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      I just clicked on that link, now I don’t feel very well
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:01am
      - Longknives
        
        For someone that we aren’t allowed to talk about (to ‘respect his privacy’ blah blah) Clarke Gayford sure loves whoring himself to the Media..
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:38am
    - mark15
      
      Baby-daddies?
      Since when did the Herald print ebonics?
      
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      September 3, 2018 4:31am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Fathers don’t need a plastic bucket from Repco full of car cleaning gear, all any father wants is a hug and a ‘thanks dad’
  Doesn’t have to be just today either.
  
  Being a parent is hard work and every now and then your children will reward you with a gem. The wait between those moments can be long, and hard. When they come, they are worth the wait; learn to appreciate and treasure those moments, nothing from Repco can come close.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:35am
  - JIV
    
    Breakfast in bed is all thats needed. Muesli and tea delivered this morning as requested
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:48am
    - VicParking
      
      With Almond milk nodoubt
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:26am
      - JIV
        
        How dare you!! Destroying a perfect cup of tea with fake milk
        
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        September 2, 2018 10:13am
      - VicParking
        
        Fake Milk and Fake PM. Go together like Clarke and Neve.
        
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        September 2, 2018 10:52am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Nothing wrong with almond milk actually. I wouldn’t drink it with a cup of tea or coffee, but as a base for a protein shake or smoothie, it’s fine.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:03am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Bit of a small swerve to the dark side there KS, keep your nerve, hold that line . . . . .
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:05pm
      - artemisia
        
        I’m sure the cafe owner in Mangawhai would be sympathetic to almond milk. That would be Morgan Redfern-Hardisty who declined to offer dairy products in his cafe ‘to reduce the impact on the environment’. Now losing his cafe licence.
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:46pm
  - NewInoffensiveName
    
    Why did this get downvotes? I am a dad and can confirm hugs beat presents every time!
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:58am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      Because there are small minded wankers who inhabit the corners of this site, like most others, who get their jollies down ticking good and sensible comments. Ignore them, they have their own sad little lives to contend with, a cat that ignores them, and the need reconcile their strangely weird love for their mother.
      
      One day they will look back at their life and wonder why they ever thought socialism was a good idea. And for that alone we should pity them and move on.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:17am
    - VicParking
      
      If my sons hugged me it would be to lift my wallwet from my back pocket. In their twenties going on five,
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:28am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Because some serious sadfucks inhabit this blog, and, . . . . . . nope, can’t think of anything else.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:07pm
  - KiWombat
    
    I will get the traditional ‘hands & feet’ fathers day painting of the grandkids appendages.
    
    They get a little larger each year, but make an interesting series that I will cherish and wheel out at 21st birthday time !
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:23am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I can’t recall my brothers ever hugging my father…
    didn’t seem to be the way things were done a generation back.
    
    I was gob-smacked when I first went to my father-in-law’s place and he kissed his son – now my husband.
    (must have been the first time I’d seen males kissing)
    Weird foreign practice , I thought.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:48am
    - Komata
      
      Maggy: It was a generational thing as you would know. I’m a ‘Boomer’ and to WWII, most of our dads were ex -service and within the military world demonstrations of affection was not done. These were of course 18-20 year old kids who were being moulded for a specific purpose. Hugging, as a sign of affection was definitely NOT encouraged. When discharged back into civi street such values came too and as a result, kids, especially boys, weren’t hugged. Not done Sir, Not done! So we looked at the Italians, Dalmatians, and Greeks and wondered what they had that we didn’t; the ability to hug and laugh. It was very odd. My Father (ex RNZAF) never hugged and we learnt from our discussions, the fathers of my friends / acquaintences never did either, yet without exception, the ‘Granparents’ did. Different generations, different experiences. As a generation I think we suffered emotionally as a result, and since such behaviour is ‘past on’, I personally had to make a deliberate choice to hug my children, yet even now there is still the ‘do not’ stigma attached to such things. My adult son BTW is an enthusiatic hugger and I’m glad that he is; the cycle broken …
      
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      September 2, 2018 11:14am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yeah, Good summation.
        
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        September 2, 2018 1:57pm
- igm
  
  “Jimmy Two Mummies” disagrees!
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:49am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    He disagrees with any suggestion that you might be a normal human being.
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:58am
- Mummy
  
  Bugger father’s day. Happy [gold card] birthday to meeeeeeeee!!! Off to spend time with my 90 year old father today though
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:53am
Manolo

The messiah did not miss the opportunity:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-obama-bush-meghan-mccain-swipe-at-trump-during-john-mccain-funeral-service/
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September 2, 2018 8:06am
- Fletch
  
  Here come the jesters 1, 2, 3 …
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:36am
- igm
  
  See Fairfax Filth had to have a photo of the Muslim-loving good-for-nothing inept loser to get at Donald. Their days, like CNN, must be numbered.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:38am
  - realityczech
    
    Obama dropped nearly 3 bombs an hour on Muslims for his entire term. He bombed, sponsored uprisings and sanctioned numerous Muslims countries. He restarted the cold war with Russia because Israel did not like them supporting Iran.
    
    How fucking mental of you to say he loved Muslims. He was the Jews house-boy.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:45am
    - igm
      
      He is, in fact, a Muslim by birth . . . f/wit!
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:23am
      - realityczech
        
        Err no. You are getting yourself all confused with the very similar Judaism upon which Islam is based. For Jews you are considered a Jew if your mother was Jewish. Otherwise you are goyim and little better than a beast.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:13am
- Inandout
  
  I saw a doco on mcain with vets telling their stories. He was known as the canary because he spilled everything to the Vietnamese and could have gone home sooner but being the son of an Admiral wanted to be the hero. Not a hero as we were all told.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:14am
- Harkman
  
  Classic, the eulogies to John McCain had nothing to do with the real John McCain. The life of McCain just proved one thing America needs term limits and we do too. Most Americans are furious at the extravagant proceedings for this guy. It seems like Meghan McCain is angling for a job at CNN when she gets sacked from the View by Whoopi and Behar for not being Marxist enough.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:19am
- realityczech
  
  We have all had enough of Obama’s monkeyshines.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:30am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    What are ‘monkeyshines’?
    
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    September 2, 2018 2:03pm
secondcumming

An African lady by the name of Betty goes into a restaurant.
As she’s being shown to her table she asks, “Do you have chicken on the menu?”

The maitre d’ replies, “No Black Betty, it’s ham or lamb”
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September 2, 2018 8:10am
- RF
  
  Will someone please take pity on me and explain the meaning of this post. Chicken, ham, lamb ?
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:10pm
  - chiz
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU1VfYYKMDk
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Betty
    
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    September 2, 2018 3:19pm
  - chiz
    
    Weird. Now, after looking up the video and wikipedia link I’m suddenly getting an ad for a metalhead dating site! Makes a change from the Russians.
    
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    September 2, 2018 3:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think it’s a common name for Black Orpington chooks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orpington_chicken#/media/File:Orpington_chicken_2.jpg
    
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    September 2, 2018 3:40pm
    - stiglet
      
      I had some Black Orpingtons. They were wonderful layers.
      
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      September 2, 2018 5:12pm
      - stiglet
        
        The best black betty… from Lead Belly.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYrK464nIeY
        
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        September 2, 2018 5:15pm
  - RF
    
    Sorry I asked. I need another drink.
    
    Thanks for the explanation. I think….
    
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    September 2, 2018 5:27pm
    - secondcumming
      
      @RF
      
      Sorry I posted it ….I think.
      
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      September 2, 2018 5:54pm
kowtow

There’s that diversity dividend ,again.

‘The Herald revealed the Ping An Finance director had pleaded guilty to and been convicted of a money-laundering charge in May.

Xiao laundered half a million dollars. Police say his offending attempted to conceal a major drug trade in New Zealand through his financial consultancy business.

In explanation, Xiao, a New Zealand citizen born in Beijing, said about $50,000 in cash was left in his office for him, which he transferred into a Chinese bank account.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/finance-director-sentenced-after-laundering-100m
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September 2, 2018 8:13am
- Dave Mann
  
  Here’s the interesting part :
  
  Yesterday, the 61-year-old was sentenced to six months’ community detention and 200 hours of community work by Judge Evangelos Thomas in the Auckland District Court.
  
  Six months ‘community detention’!!! What a joke our justice system is!
  
  You can bet your bottom dollar that what he was caught for only represents the tip of the iceberg. Probably he was flat out buying million dollar properties for cash for corrupt Chinese officials for the last 20 years.
  
  In China he would simply get a bullet through the head. Prick.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:38am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘In China he would simply get a bullet through the head. Prick.’
    
    Yep , but depending on whether you’re in the in faction or not.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:48am
    - Dave Mann
      
      You might be right… but having said that, I think Xi is genuinely trying to stamp out corruption in China. Not being Chinese or reading the language at first-hand though, I might be wrong.
      
      One thing’s for sure though. Six months of ‘community detention’ for a life of money laundering is just a joke and must send a big invitation message to China’s criminals and corrupt officials that NZ is a nice safe haven.
      
      He’s also probably been paid off handsomely in RMB by some client and it’s sitting offshore for him waiting for all the fuss to die down.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:05am
      - kowtow
        
        Genuinely enriching his own circle.
        
        ‘Documents from the leaked Mossack Fonseca database showed the relations of three of the seven members of the Communist party’s elite ruling council, the politburo standing committee, had companies that were clients of the offshore law firm. They included relatives of Chinese president Xi Jinping. ‘
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/07/china-ramps-up-panama-papers-censorship-after-leaders-relatives-named
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:10pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Correct. The ‘anti-corruption’ campaign is more about purging real or imagined enemies.
        
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        September 2, 2018 2:05pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Interesting that one of the things the Chinese can’t stand about Western culture, is the casual acceptance shown towards the use of hard drugs. Yet they are happy to participate in either the financing, distribution, or supply of these very same drugs into Western countries.
    
    Look at how many of these bastards are already serving time in little ol’ New Zealand jails……and I would suggest we haven’t even scratched the surface.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:07am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Tip off IRD. They’ll get him if there is anything shoddy! ?
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:37am
Souvlaki

Heather du Plessis Alan must have been on electric puha…or been recipient of a bolus from Jones’s slush fund to write such an off the wall opinion piece this am ! Ludicrous….maybe I not recognize it’s actually satire!
http://nzh.tw/12116830
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September 2, 2018 8:14am
- hullkiwi
  
  Sadly she is not the only one.
  
  This morning there is a surfeit of fluffy pieces about the CoL, their spinmeisters are clearly trying to control the agenda after last week and pre-the Pacific Forum
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/comment-meeting-jacinda-ardern-she-makes-the-extraordinary-seem-ordinary/ar-BBMJpIt?ocid=spartandhp
  
  and
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-prime-minister-progressive-plastic-bag-ban-child-poverty-a8518461.html
  
  The you get wee Willy trying to tell us he will solve Maori yuff unemployment
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/employment-minister-wants-to-halve-māori-unemployment-by-2020/ar-BBMJthk?ocid=spartandhp
  
  What happened to Shane dishing out money from the slush fund?
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:34am
  - NK
    
    Forget Shane’s slush fund. Check out Winston’s corruption in full flight with his racing announcements.
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:53am
  - VicParking
    
    I notice Cindy ran off to an Intermediate school on Thursday/Friday? so as to hide from any real questions. Photo Shoots and Haka, no press within 10 Meters. Only press conference on the shitty week was scripted with the usual, “Can comment because its before a White Wash commitee”.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:37am
  - BlueGriffon
    
    The do spout some crap in those stories. Are we seriously meant to believe Jacinda does that all on her own. Really, she herself negotiated the end of the nurses strike! I thought it was between MOH and DHB.
    There seems to be word coming from on high to pump up Cindy in the media.
    
    We aren’t stupid, we can see through the bullshit!
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:48am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  ‘If that means voters move from National to Labour, it could be the start of a winning streak for this Government’
  
  I always knew she was not a journalist. No National voter moves from two ticks blue to red confusion and clusterfuck; only those who aspire to be National voters do that, all others vote Winston with the seriousily deranged voting for the gweens.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:04am
  - Philview
    
    I am so concerned by the extent of this media bias that I am giving serious thought to actually becoming a member of the National Party rather than just vote for them. I have read there has been a big surge in “Conservatives” joining the Conservative Party in the UK.
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:41pm
- RF
  
  What in the hell is she smoking ?
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:05am
  - Harkman
    
    Whatever it is, she’s been on it for quite some time.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:21am
  - VicParking
    
    Maybe its not her inhaling but from the smoke being blown up her arse by Robbo. Twitford and Clarke.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:39am
- softail 1450
  
  Souvlaki,, she and her father figure hubby must be having sunday morning drinks? or is there a big Prime ministers trip coming up on air force one she and Barely Sober want to be included on?
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:00am
EAD_TWO

Is anyone else noticing the concerted gaslighting going on at the moment around the mass murder of farmers in South Africa. Following the ADL’s press release on August 23rd, MSM outlet after MSM outlet are pouring out article after article saying that there is no mass murder of South African Farmers going on.

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-extremely-troubled-by-presidents-tweet-on-south-africa

Even just today, a far left person I know shared this article from the BBC on Social Media claiming that claims of large scale of white farmers is not happening and it is all just a campaign by “far-right” Afrikaaners extremists:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45336840

And of course we have hogwash like this run by our own MSM:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/106529348/south-africa-blasts-us-president-donald-trump-over-racially-divisive-tweet

George Orwell famously wrote, “But for people like ourselves, who suspect that something has gone very wrong with the Soviet Union, I consider that willingness to criticise Russia and Stalin is the test of intellectual honesty.”

Admitting White genocide is happening in South Africa is now the test.
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September 2, 2018 8:15am
- KevOB
  
  This may be of interest:
  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-01/there-plan-south-africa-take-white-farms-and-kill-white-farmers
  
  When is the world going to stand up for Yemen too?
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:23am
  - Inandout
    
    But Myanmar has muslims, got to give a little for sharia!
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:18am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I’d be interested in EAdolf’s explanation of how the murder of white farmer in South Africa is ‘genocide’ but the the German murder of European Jews was not.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:01am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Ahhhh good ol Milkmaid with the “look squirrel” tactic as he tries to Godwin this thread and move our attention away from the slaughter of White South Africans.
    
    You are exactly like the MSM.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:06am
  - Dave_1924
    
    Squirrel.much mikey..
    Vinegar tasty thks morning is it?
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:09am
  - realityczech
    
    There was a war on in Europe at that time milky. Look it up. Around 70 million died. Most of them Christians, including 27 million Russians.
    
    Jews declare war on Germany 1933
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:14am
- kowtow
  
  Easy to tell that the Al Beeb is on the side of murder and mass starvation.
  
  ‘The BBC has found that there is no reliable data to suggest farmers are at greater risk of being murdered than the average South African.’
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-45336840
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:09am
  - UpandComer
    
    ‘Al Beeb’ lol.
    
    Yes one farmer murdered every 5 days per the SA Agricultural Union. Dr Gregory Stanton has identified the genocide. SA doesn’t even capture figures to avoid scrutiny. And now they’ve required 400,000 guns to ve returned to the government. I am now a full.blow second amendment purist. Civilians should be able to hold every single weapon held by a government soldier – land mines, machine guns, anti armour heavy kit. Governments run by non whites cannot be trusted to run a bath or not to kill people whose land they want to steal.
    
    Meanwhile Al Beeb is full of ludicrous stories about how Jeremy Corbyn is myslim Hitler.
    
    I might even agree with them, if they’d just stop lying so incessantly and virulently about my friends in South Africa like they lied about Stalin, and lile they recently lied about Ukraine and the Donbass. It starts to look like the media and its varied ownership simply have different priorities to humanitarianism.
    
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-01/there-plan-south-africa-take-white-farms-and-kill-white-farmers
    
    Confiscating all the guns was the final straw.
    
    This pending civil war is going to wake up a lot of people. I hope these corrupt communists enjoy their spoils. Western Aid is going to stop. Seal off the whole continent and let the Wakandites enjoy Ebola.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:33am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  How many, hundreds, thousands of- whites massacred ???
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:17am
  - pentwig
    
    go and take a stroll in J/burg after 10pm stupidthing
    
    if you survive you can come back and tell us
    
    if not, you will know why we call you stupid
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:36pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I went to an international service club convention in Durban in 1994. The English contingent had overnighted in Jo’burg before heading down to Durban, and one of their number ignored warnings not to go out walking alone. He got mugged. He found a police patrol on the corner, who directed him to the nearest police station, two blocks away. He headed off to report the mugging, only to get mugged for a second time in five minutes.
      
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      September 2, 2018 2:10pm
  - cmm
    
    Every day you should go outside, kiss the ground then thank the white colonials that helped make this a safe society where you can have your little delusions?
    
    How many hundreds do you want massacred?
    
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    September 2, 2018 2:20pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hey, all I asked was how this alleged ‘genocide’ compared with historical genocides. That’s not a squirrel. My skepticism is only based on a feeling that land confiscations and murders in South Africa are not the most significant human rights violations in the world at present. I might be wrong, and I might also be wrong in wondering why these victims of the South African regime are getting outsize attention, especially from commenters who are not usually much concerned about things happening in Africa..
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:09pm
  - cmm
    
    MM there are certainly many human rights violations happening at the moment – especially in Africa.
    
    But the difference is, I think threefold:
    
    1) The BBC and various MSM are making a huge efforts to make the South African situation look normal, but don’t do so for, say, South Sudan which they are prepared to report more honestly.
    
    2) South Africa was a pretty function society and has been held up as the Rainbow Nation – an example to show the world how it is done. This clearly isn’t happening. It is shocking to watch it crumble and fail, even while the MSM are complicit in avoiding accurate reporting. Eliminating the farmers is not just white genocide, it is everybody genocide because the 15-20k farmers feed over 50 million people who have no hope or skills to feed themselves. This is a huge catastrophe unfolding in front of us. This is the last little spark of civilisation being snuffed out in the whole of the African continent.
    
    3) What’s wrong with a bit of in-group preference? Everyone practices it: Blacks, Maori, Asians, Indians, so why not Europeans?
    
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    September 2, 2018 2:30pm
artemisia

Agree or not, removing the ability of property managers to charge letting fees to tenants is a real swipe at the income stream of those businesses.

Larger PM businesses will notice it bigly. Unless the bill is paid by the owners, in which case the rents will be going up.

Another business sector seriously impacted by government policy. Only proposed ATM but it has been announced it is going to happen.
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September 2, 2018 8:23am
- dave_c_
  
  I think it is overdue for many of these greedy property managers to have their wings clipped. They may manage the rental stock for the landlord etc, but provide very little value-add to tenants. Greedily clipping the ticket seems to be a lauded profession in this country.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:35am
  - Viking2
    
    They provide a service to both parties.
    Of course better still the govt. could get rid of Tenancy Laws and allow us to run our own businesses the way we want.
    
    you wonder why we are short of rentals when tenants are hard work.
    Here is another example of Local Govt. stealing from property owners. A house whose services are already paid for in the rates being charged to suit a small sector of over priced privileged few.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12116492
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:55am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      We could get rid of labour laws, which also cut at the profitability of businesses. And those irritating health and safety laws while we are at it. Give employees the choice of working in the most dangerous conditions for the lowest wages which they can then spend on the cheapest rental homes.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:06am
      - Viking2
        
        What a great idea. you are starting to learn.
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:22am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        We should also abolish that silly road code. I don’t know why these nanny-staters need to tell people which side of the road to drive on, or how fast they can go.
        
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        September 2, 2018 2:25pm
  - GazzaW
    
    That’s because a property manager is the agent of the landlord and it is not their responsibility to ‘add value’ for the tenant.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:04am
  - artemisia
    
    Plenty of owners manage their own rentals and don’t charge tenants a letting fee. Would be tenants can choose to apply to them. Leave the fee paying to the tenants who are happy to pay to get the rental they want.
    
    Property managers running vacancy ads are almost always clear right up front about the fee.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:07am
    - MCos
      
      I don’t think ‘happy’ is quite the right word.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:54pm
    - Paulus
      
      Part of my family were overseas on appointment for three years plus and needed a Manager for their house.
      Settled an early breach of rental contract smoothly as well also and handled whole contract well – Wellington.
      
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      September 2, 2018 1:46pm
  - KevOB
    
    Letting managers came about to fix the very evils the COL wants to re-impose. Scarce tenancies were essentially privately bid for. Letting fees provide a more public market.
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:27pm
- wiseowl
  
  Business sector??
  Leeches.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:03am
  - dave_c_
    
    Indeed – Haven’t people heard about the ‘business sector’ collectively known as ‘the rip off merchants’
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:11am
- dime
  
  Ive only had bad experiences with property managers. They are low rent trash.
  
  No proper oversight.
  
  It’s a job for those who can’t make it as an agent
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:34am
  - artemisia
    
    The best answer to those opposed to same sex marriage – don’t do it.
    
    Same with landlords and tenants. They have options.
    
    We manage our own rentals, and have never used property managers. Because we have options. But fiat from the government is not optional.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:58am
  - yossarian
    
    Have two properties currently rented. One via property manager and we took over ourselves, as the property manager hadn’t visited the house in 3 years, but was happily clipping the ticket.
    
    We have left the other property manager in place, and he is brilliant. On time reports, no hassles and on call all the time. A good property manager is definitely worth…if you find a good one
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:06am
    - Paulus
      
      Try a reputable National Real Estate Company – they have a reputation to uphold.
      
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      September 2, 2018 1:47pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Sure.
        
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        September 2, 2018 2:26pm
- JamesP
  
  There are “one-off” costs associated with changing tenants and there is the ongoing cost. This is true even if you don’t use a property manager. For some reason the government doesn’t like “one off” costs eg. “key money” (already banned) and “letting fees” (soon to be banned). So landlords aren’t allowed to structure their contract to reflect the reality of the situation. Well, the costs don’t magically disappear, they just get folded into the rental. Which, if you think about it , actually hurts responsible long term tenants.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:07am
  - dave_c_
    
    JamesP – Perhaps you are pretending to be naive. If landlords don’t have a realistic/complete business model to accomodate all aspects of their chosen business, then they should not be in that ‘sector’. I fail to see where the ongoing ‘one off costs’ associated with quote ‘responsible long term tenants’ exist ? If the landlord loads the rental for these desirable tenants, on the offchance they will one day be required, then I contend the landlord is also a rip off atrtist.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:18am
    - KevOB
      
      Work in IRD and see the rental accounts. The cost of money frequently means a landlord is paying part of the outgoings from their own pockets. They hope to gain in the long run from inflation but many don’t make it. Who can fund urgent repairs on negative cashflow?
      
      Some profitable landlords are carpenters with sufficient capital to buy cheaply, get the property habitable through their own work and accept a market rent. Rents are fixed in time and place and a renewal of finance may mean negative cashflow which puts the tenancy at risk.
      
      Tenants may attempt to rip landlords off.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:42pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    My responsible long term tenants get rent vacations at Christmas. There’s ways.
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:40pm
kowtow

The media were promoting Clark’s lie about domestic violence in New Zealand.

NZ does not have a domestic violence problem , Aotearoa does.

The issue was not domestic violence though, it was about the NZ voter and taxpayer becoming a vassal of the far left UN agenda.

https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/
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September 2, 2018 8:25am
- MrLovebucket
  
  Do we have stats showing an ethnic breakdown on this?
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:03am
  - kowtow
    
    There will be , buried deep in some bureaucrats’ filing cabinet.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:10am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I suspect they are right on the top actually. Just inconvenient so will never see the light of day. Just like the traffic accident stats, the hospital occupancy rates, the everything we want to say about how maori are disproportionately represented in a negative light aside from their contribution to the pot.
      
      If we can have the phrase ‘our people’ trotted out ad infinitum when maori are speaking about maori, we can also have ‘their people’
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:21pm
- Harkman
  
  I really get passed off when they use Aotearoa, such a meaningless bs name. One day I’ll crack ?
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:26am
lifesgood

Happy father’s Day! I hope all good dad’s get spoilt today!

On another note, if you don’t already watch The Bolt Report on Sky News you really should. Andrew Bolt is excellent with a firm right of centre viewpoint and is straight forward and sensible. We need someone like him here.
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September 2, 2018 8:25am
- GazzaW
  
  Ditto ‘Outsiders’ on Sky News at 1100 this morning.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:36am
sooty

Why the love fest in the media about the old hag who should just fade away into the distance and leave NZ alone.
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September 2, 2018 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  Have a look at my link to the UN goals .
  
  The left , media et al are all pushing a left wing UN agenda.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:32am
- Nostradamus
  
  Sooty:
  
  We discuss his marriage. He says he is sentimental, rather than romantic. He loves his wife. “The best thing I can do is make Helen a pot of tea in bed,” he laughs. “Mind you, I enjoy a pot of tea myself.”
  
  Assuming “pot of tea” isn’t a euphemism (and this is Peter, so it’s unlikely), no wonder Helen looks elsewhere for public affection!
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:36am
  - stigie
    
    “no wonder Helen looks elsewhere for public affection!”
    
    Well, Peter got copious amount of affection on the 2005 election night Nostra or have you forgotten..?
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:57am
    - holysheet
      
      Yes, its one tv news clip I will never forget. Wonder what happened to it?
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:17am
- GazzaW
  
  Is she making a comeback? There has been a big PR effort of late to lift her profile and that doesn’t come cheap. Why?
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:41am
  - VicParking
    
    Auckland Mayor, Governer General or more likely Leader for life of the ‘Non-Democratic People’s Dictatorship of Communist Aotearoa”
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:46am
  - holysheet
    
    It’s her right to be seen as correcting the mistakes her silly little girlie continues to make on a daily basis. Cindy has the baaaybeee. Poor old bitch has got nothing. She is still smarting over her thrashing by Key and being given the arse fron the UN.
    How bad do you have to be to be not wanted by that clustrfuck.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:23am
  - KevOB
    
    Is the Labour Party making a push to oust Jacinda before she completely ruins them? A proxy caretaker for Jacinda may be welcome.
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:47pm
    - Paulus
      
      Winston !
      He did a better job than Cindy has ever done.
      
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      September 2, 2018 1:50pm
      - KevOB
        
        NO. The whole COL has to be under management
        A fresh election is to be preferred.
        
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        September 2, 2018 3:54pm
Paulus

I see that the Herald is promoting H Clark’s book about herself of course.
The heading is about the Apocolics – surely appropriate she was a large part of its development in New Zealand and her love child id perpetuating it.
Like the Photo shopped picture though – you would not recognise the wrinkled old lady now.
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September 2, 2018 8:34am
- Fletch
  
  Speaking of books, I was wandering around a book store the other day and they had 30 copies of the anti-Trump book Fire and Fury sitting in a pile all half price. Guess they didn’t sell as well as they thought they would….
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:41am
  - SGA
    
    LOL – wish I hadn’t read that. I was given one for Father’s day. Mums the word. 🙂
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:04am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Take it back and exchange it quick for something that you want to read before the value drops to be about the same as the flyer you pick up on the way into the store; this afternoon ought to do it!
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:25pm
- RF
  
  Maybe lining up for a tilt at the GG job.
  
  Gruppenfuhrer Clark would like this.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But if she became GG she would have to pick up a Title…. Dame Helen, and isn’t she opposed to such honorifics?
    Besides, Dame Patsy has only been in the job for just under 2 years…. she’s got another 3 years to go.
    
    More likely it’s the Mayoralty for Auckland that’s in the gun.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:35am
    - SGA
      
      But if she became GG she would have to pick up a Title…. Dame Helen, and isn’t she opposed to such honorifics?
      
      Interesting question – would she have to? GGs usually get the honour during their tenure, I think, so clearly it doesn’t become automatic on taking office.
      It would be odd having someone who had eschewed such titles giving them out though 🙂
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:10am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I don’t think she is opposed to titles, per se. She is after all, the Right Honourable Helen Clark, appointment to the Privy Council being rarer than a damehood, of course.
        We have made a bit of a mess of our honours system over the year. Many people still erroneously assume that a ‘Sir’ or ‘Dame’ is the highest honour, for example.
        
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        September 2, 2018 2:31pm
kowtow

I love the media outrage at the US decision to stop funding the Palestinians.

Seriously , why should a US taxpayer fund those goatfuckers when other goatfuck countries have so much money?
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September 2, 2018 8:42am
- igm
  
  Would be pissed off if my taxes were used for funding rug pilots’ arms and mosques to plan hatred and attacks on my country.
  Oh hell, we have a Crockery-faced unelected PM, who would think this inclusive!
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:47am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Seriously , why should a US taxpayer fund those goatfuckers when other goatfuck countries have so much money?
  
  Now picture yourself writing something similar about a US decision to stop funding the Israelis and you might realise just how shit your values are.
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:51am
  - Fletch
    
    I don’t see the connection? The only reason there are still Palestinian “refugees” is that the Arabs sought to keep them that way to play the victim card and garner sympathy for their cause. On the other side, just as many Jews were expelled from Arab countries at the time, the so-called “forgotten refugees”. Over 800,000 of them. (Read, In Ishmael’s House by Martin Gilbert). And what happened to them? Israel took all of them in. The Arab countries could easily have absorbed the ‘Palestinians’ as well but they didn’t want to for political reasons.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY0FOPa-j-E
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhbvGOh1xVk
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:54am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Exactly: you don’t see the connection, all you can do is regurgitate the propaganda you’ve swallowed as though it were in some way relevant.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:04am
      - Viking2
        
        UMMM.
        Pot Kettle Black.
        Oh dear.
        
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        September 2, 2018 10:39am
  - igm
    
    Israelis are decent people, not backstabbing gutless pawns of Islam.
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:11am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Palestinians are decent people, not backstabbing gutless pawns of Judaism.
      
      See how this shit works? It’s the same ugly shit no matter who your directing it at.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:05am
- Nostradamus
  
  Kowtow:
  
  why should a US taxpayer fund those goatfuckers when other goatfuck countries have so much money?
  
  Stephieboy won’t believe his luck. Someone finally asks a question on Kiwiblog that he knows something about!
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Nostradamus, your brain Architecture ??
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4eMgVv9jQI
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:19am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      I’ve noticed that you’ve included “brain architecture” references in a number of comments in the last day or two.
      
      But to answer your question: no.
      
      Hint: When I said “Someone finally asks a question on Kiwiblog that he knows something about” I was referring to the question. On reflection, though, I may have incorrectly assumed that you something about anything. You’re known as Kiwiblog’s dumbest commenter for a reason!
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:25am
      - VicParking
        
        Don’t be so hard of Stephie he studied all week to learn ‘brain architecture’ and that was just to learn how to cut and paste it. ??
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:49am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Your link has no relevance to brain architecture.
      Brain architecture has no relevance to US aid to Palestine.
      You are not orbiting our galaxy.
      
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      September 2, 2018 1:49pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Nostradamus, wrong ,iv’e mentioned animal husbandry many times to septicboy and he’s never answered the questions….
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:10am
- realityczech
  
  I agree.
  
  Now how do you feel about the billions of tax payer dollars paid to the rich prosperous Middle Eastern country of Israel? It – by far – gets more aid than any other country in the world.
  
  Seems the US should be spending that money on their own people and not religious loons.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:02am
  - Viking2
    
    Might not need so much now. Thought about that?
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:24am
- EAD_TWO
  
  I see Netenyahu tweeted the following:
  
  The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong.
  
  https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1034849460344573952
  
  If a European held these views (((some))) people would call them Fascists. It’s almost as if some people want us weak and diluted, directionless and degenerate.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:04am
  - realityczech
    
    For sure Eddy. This while Israel conducts an increasingly severe program of ethnic cleansing, including rounding up the un-pure and putting them in camps for removal operations.
    
    Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:20am
    - DigNap15
      
      I’m suprised the figure is not much higher.
      In time of war, it would be best to have no arabs or muslims in their country creating extra security problems.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:29am
      - realityczech
        
        I’m suprised the figure is not much higher.
        In time of war, it would be best to have no ~~arabs or muslims~~ Jews in their country creating extra security problems.
        
        Yes I agree with the principle. However they are rounding up blacks and others. I was not talking about the Israeli extermination of Muslims.
        
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        September 2, 2018 9:34am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO,
    
    “It’s almost as if some people want us weak and diluted, directionless and degenerate.”
    
    Why state the obvious?
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:22am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Indeed Stephiegoy,
      
      As Lao Tzu said “Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power”
      
      Hence why a self-aware and awakened “Herrenvolk”, meaning “Masters in their own house”, and not ‘Master-race” as the Jew does say, is such an existential threat to globalist Talmudic-Judaism.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:30am
    - VicParking
      
      As far as your concerned they have succeded.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:50am
realityczech

Climate “science” news:

Antarctica NZ flies Rob Fyfe’s Next Top Model wife Sara Tetro to the ice

Antarctica NZ hired board member Rob Fyfe’s talent agency director and TV personality partner to schmooze VIPs in Antarctica.

Antarctica NZ – a tax payer funded organisation – is a government agency responsible for carrying out New Zealand’s activities in Antarctica supporting science and environmental programmes.
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September 2, 2018 8:59am
- Fletch
  
  I see the greenies looking for evidence of warming got stuck in ice again for the 5th time….lol
  
  Yet another Arctic expedition to raise awareness of “global warming” has been frustrated by unexpectedly large quantities of ice.
  This time the climate chumps were a party of scientists, students and filmmakers from the University of Rhode Island’s Inner Space Center (ISC) sponsored – your tax dollar at work – by the U.S. National Science Foundation.
  
  Their mission: “Research to aid understanding of/document climate change effects” in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago aboard a Russian ship Akademik Ioffe.
  
  But now the ship has been damaged after becoming grounded in the ice and its passengers have had to be rescued.
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/28/danother-green-expedition-trapped-in-arctic-ice/
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:06am
  - kowtow
    
    The Dunedin City Council is donkey deep in debt, the rate payer has years of increasing rates and yet……
    
    ‘…….Otago Museum staff broke new ground in science communication recently, by flying to Niue, in the Pacific, with a science showcase exhibition highlighting the risks posed by climate change.’
    
    Flying there , causing even more un necessary emissions(if you buy that shit) on the rate payers shekel. Fucking unbelievable.
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/museum-takes-exhibition-climate-change-niue
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:15am
    - sooty
      
      Yer, but they all got their jollies on an overseas junket. Propably sitting up the pointy end as well as 5star hotel. Talk about wasting money. Nothing like entitleliteiss for theese snowflakes.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:50am
    - VicParking
      
      Our Council, Whanganui, has just returned from a junket in Japan. “Our Japanese Guests paid for flights and accomidation” Looking forward for their visit next year when no doubt we will do likewise.
      Our Council just levied a new “Roading resilience” rate.
      And for all those years previous we ratepayers thought that the roads were already built to be Resilent.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:00am
    - KevOB
      
      Niue: population 1600. That’s less than Eltham where they make real junket.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:58pm
  - stephieboy
    
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    Fletch,
    
    Usually frozen waters open up twice this year in phenomenon scientists described as scary
    
    “The oldest and thickest sea ice in the Arctic has started to break up, opening waters north of Greenland that are normally frozen, even in summer.
    
    This phenomenon – which has never been recorded before – has occurred twice this year due to warm winds and a climate-change driven heatwave in the northern hemisphere.
    
    One meteorologist described the loss of ice as “scary”. Others said it could force scientists to revise their theories about which part of the Arctic will withstand warming the longest.
    
    The sea off the north coast of Greenland is normally so frozen that it was referred to, until recently, as “the last ice area” because it was assumed that this would be the final northern holdout against the melting effects of a hotter planet.
    
    But abnormal temperature spikes in February and earlier this month have left it vulnerable to winds, which have pushed the ice further away from the coast than at any time since satellite records began in the 1970s…”
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/arctics-strongest-sea-ice-breaks-up-for-first-time-on-record
     
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:29am
    - realityczech
      
      “One meteorologist described the loss of ice as “scary” ”
      
      Is “scary” a scientific term? The rest of us call it – Spring.
      
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      September 2, 2018 9:37am
    - VicParking
      
      Stephie its called Summer
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:01am
      - realityczech
        
        Collectively they are called – Seasons.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:14am
- mikenmildagain
  
  There was a good article last week (maybe on the Spinoff) about what jolly good fun people associated with Antarctic NZ have. Positions on the board are highly sought after, as they come with free trips to Antarctica, where the base staff can be sent on such errands as collecting fresh glacier ice for the drinks.
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:12am
  - Harkman
    
    Mike, you’re on the climate change gravy train. What’s the pay like?
    
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    September 2, 2018 9:29am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      If there is a gravy train that I am eligible to join, please point me in its direction. I have only a modest salary to support myself and could do with some perks.
      Is it true I could get money from the Chinese for promoting the right lines on social media?
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12117489
      Or do you work out of St Petersburg with Andrei?
      
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      September 2, 2018 2:38pm
stigie

“We are the real face of New Zealand business. We employ those with tattoos that Air New Zealand rejects. We run the wineries not good enough for the Koru Club and drive their customers to the airport”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106710058/damien-grant-airnz-ceo-christopher-luxon-does-not-represent-me
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September 2, 2018 9:09am
- Nostradamus
  
  You missed this, Stigie:
  
  If my business fails I’d be unable to pay my mortgage and we’d have to move. Probably to Kingsland.
  
  He’d have at least one high-profile neighbour!
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:14am
DigNap15

Today’s Maori Vocab lesson
Aphorism
I went to page 17 on my English to Maori dictionary and it was not there!
You would think that such basic words as aphorism would be there, after all Hippocrates first used the word over two thousand years ago. it.
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September 2, 2018 9:24am
- Nostradamus
  
  DigNap15:
  
  Aphorism
  I went to page 17 on my English to Maori dictionary and it was not there!
  
  Did you check page 18 just in case? 🙂
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:26am
- VicParking
  
  Tuhinga o mua
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:02am
  - DigNap15
    
    OK I’ll add it and send it to Margaret Mutu
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:16am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t think Tuhinga a mua is a suitable translation for aphorism.
    
    It means – previous article/document…. something written before.
    
    It doesn’t convey the nuance of the word aphorism.
    
    Try: pepeha
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:01pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Aphorism is a Greek word, not an English one. Maybe some ass-clown could start a daily post on things that English didn’t have a word for and had to make one up or steal one…
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:09am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes words like
    OK and pyjamas I think they were from India (Pakistan)
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:17am
  - Morrissey
    
    Now you’ve upset them, Milt. They don’t like having their ignorance demonstrated.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:18am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Well said! Especially when we have you to rely on for the standard of ignorance; not as in intellect but as in social interaction, because, on occasion, you say something here without being a supercilious blockhead.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:38pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Psyco mutt “some ass clown” are you putting your hand up mutt?
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:18am
    - itstricky
      
      ass -: from Latin
      
      clown -: Probably derivative from Scandinavian/German – ‘clumsy person’
      
      motorcycle -: motor, from Latin, meaning movement. cycle, from Greek for circular or cylindrical. Hence the mythical Cyclops and his single circular eye.
      
      Hmmm, that last one is almost exactly like how Maori uses verb/noun combinations.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:51am
  - SGA
    
    Nah – it’s too nice sitting on the verandah in my pyjamas. Besides, I’m not all that au fait with linguisitics.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:20am
DigNap15

I do wish that people would increase their use of methane and other climate changing gases.
A nice two or three degrees rise in our winter temperature would be great!
It seems to be taking forever.
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September 2, 2018 9:26am
stephieboy

A blimp of Sadiq Khan Lord Mayor of London,

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1011677/sadiq-khan-balloon-pictured-how-big-was-turnout-bikini-blimp-london-mayor-parliament-squar

In retaliation for Trump Blimp but the former approved by the Lord Mayor of London.

LOL
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September 2, 2018 9:33am
- dime
  
  Looks a similar size crowd to what the trump balloon got. They didn’t have the same media coverage either LOL
  
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  September 2, 2018 9:38am
- softail 1450
  
  septicboy, Do you know how old this story is,,FFS update your Google app…..they started building it weeks ago.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:20am
Nostradamus

Stephieboy:

LOL

15 Struggles People Who Laugh At Their Own Jokes Have To Deal With

2. You laugh at your own jokes every time – You always laugh, no matter how dumb or short or lame the joke. You don’t really care if people laugh with you or not. You’re laughing anyway.

5. You re-read things you write online just to laugh at how hilarious you are – “Wow, that was a good one. I forgot about that joke. Dang I am so funny!”
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September 2, 2018 9:41am
Manolo

It cannot be Trump, it must be the great Obama says our resident Muslim:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/boom-times-83-execs-say-business-is-better-76-see-more-growth

Over eight-in-10 executives believe that business is better than it was two years ago, and almost as many expect further growth in the third year of the Trump administration, according to a new survey of decision makers.
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September 2, 2018 9:45am
Tarquin North

The Rainbow Warrior 2 is on anchor in Bream Bay this morning. It’s tragic to think of all those rope heads and filthy hippies budging our fish and scallops.
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September 2, 2018 9:46am
Dave Stringer

Bemoaning the weather forecast for the next few days as “not nice for Spring” is a joke. Right?
The spring equinox is September 21st, so who’s surprised that we’re still having winter weather?
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September 2, 2018 9:47am
- DigNap15
  
  Yeah right.
  And don’t forget we always get cold snaps even in October and November! (lambs dying etc)
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:19am
  - Komata
    
    DigNap: Hence the old saying (in the Waikato at least), that you NEVER plant Tomatoes until after Labour Weekend. Some of the ‘Spring’ frosts can be fierce…
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:22pm
- skyblue
  
  23rd Sep actually?
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:10am
- alex Masterley
  
  The good old spring equinox.
  When i came to Auckland a regatta sponsored by Feltex took place every september.
  And every september we had, right on cue, equinoctal gales. Made the sailing very interesting and also it made one very appreciative of the post race rums on the way back to the dock.
  
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  September 2, 2018 12:19pm
  - Tarquin North
    
    Spring series starts on the 26th up here, winds should be reaching their zenith about then as usual.
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:17pm
Manolo

Will the crooked hag ever retire?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-two-people-help-hillary-up-stairs-at-aretha-franklin-funeral/
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September 2, 2018 9:52am
- softail 1450
  
  Manolo, filthy Bill puts his arm around everyone around him as a gesture of friendship, I’m betting they’d all be checking he hasn’t stolen their wallets soon afterwards.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:29am
Suze Wainwright

In line with the Party’s hardline stance towards gender equality, the Green Party’s male membership has now officially reclaimed the word ‘cock’.
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September 2, 2018 9:54am
- VicParking
  
  James Shaw reclaimed his from the jar in Mother 2’s bedroom top draw.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:06am
  - Psycho Milt
    
    He’d probably be a little more stung if you knew what a drawer was.
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:57am
- softail 1450
  
  S W, more likely the word cuck….
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:32am
Chuck Bird

I wonder how much taxpayer money will be paid to the staffer who Meka Whaitiri MP assaulted so she will not make an official complaint to the police.
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September 2, 2018 10:01am
- VicParking
  
  H2’s usual rate for this type of thing.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:07am
JibberJabber

In a fit of anti-Trump pique, American liberals shamelessly embrace ‘deep-state’ criminals

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/437350-brennan-maher-liberals-trump/
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September 2, 2018 10:11am
- Morrissey
  
  You’re quite correct, my friend. Thanks to the “strategists” of the Democratic Party, backed up by such “liberal” conspiracy theorists as Rachel Maddow, who all but ignore Trump and his cronies’ actual crimes, and instead choose to focus on this mythical Russian-super-bogeyman-controlling-Trump-like-a-puppet, the Democrats have not a hope of defeating Trump in 2020.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:53am
Morrissey

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GROPERS
No. 41: John Key

http://i.imgur.com/wT4XtDj.gif

The Minister for Women is standing by Prime Minister John Key, after he was forced to apologise to an Auckland waitress for pulling on her ponytail.

Rosie cafe worker Amanda Bailey, 26, wrote an anonymous blog on Wednesday, claiming the Prime Minister had pulled on her hair numerous times over many months when he visited with his wife Bronagh.

Key apologised for his actions, saying he initially thought of it as “banter” and “a bit of horseplay”. He said he apologised when it became clear Bailey did not appreciate his advances. ….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/67981595/minister-for-women-standing-by-prime-minister-after-ponytail-incident

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon; 30 Rob Porter; 31 The old buffers at Russell McVeagh; 32 Otago law students; 33 Tom Brokaw; 34 David Scott; 35 Justin Trudeau; 36 Morgan Freeman; 37 Hugh Hefner’s guests; 38 Brock Turner; 39 Les Moonves; 40 Asia Argento
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September 2, 2018 10:13am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  One National Party drone has instantly endorsed this creep. Thank God they’re going to be out of power until at least 2026.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:15am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Oh for fuck’s sake Morris Dancer. You do have a talent for making a complete dick of yourself.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:50am
    - Morrissey
      
      Was that me fingering, to the obvious consternation of her mother, a little girl’s hair? It kind of looked like someone else.
      
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      September 2, 2018 10:54am
      - sooty
        
        Why dont you put your own name to the list?
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:19am
      - Morrissey
        
        Ouch. Can someone get me some ice for that burn?
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:28am
      - stigie
        
        Yep, i think morris dancer wacks off to that stuff !~
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:24pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Okay for Jacinda to hug everyone though?
        
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        September 2, 2018 1:52pm
  - realityczech
    
    “until at least 2026.”
    
    Yes with Slimein in charge you are about right.
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:30pm
- DJ Ward
  
  What the hell. Who writes this list.
  
  Asia Argento is only no 40!
  
  What the hell. She admits having sex with a boy that she was a senior, authority position too. Illegal sex with a minor. Then she cliams she “felt” she was being raped, Blaa, Blaa, blame the victim (participant). But won’t go to the police. Was a leading superstar in the MeToo movement.
  
  #13 Bill. Did bill have sex with a minor then lead an anti offending campaign. Actually Bill was pretty bad.
  #12 Prince Harry. What? Dirty little party boys.
  #18 Trump, the don’t grope the willing pervert. Nasty, nasty red blooded man.
  #31 McViegh lawyers. As far as I’m aware, the Labour Party groper was worse, far deeper, but still didn’t involve sex with a minor. Or then engage in a campaign involving the same behavours as her own.
  
  #37 Hugh Hefners guests. Yes the girls went there, to the party, thinking it was a retreat for Christian girls, preparing to become nuns.
  
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  September 2, 2018 1:44pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Some powerful analysis there, my friend. Well done. Ms Agento is only No. 40 because we only recently learned of her groping. The Gropers are not ranked by order of severity.
    
    Meantimes, keep your eyes peeled for No. 42, comin’ up soon!
    
    Sincerely,
    
    Morrissey Breen and Hector Stoop, for the GroperWatch® team.
    
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    September 3, 2018 6:48am
rockape

Looking at the Herald and the number of articles on Clark Ms. Is she the real squirrel diverting attention from Labours woes?
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September 2, 2018 10:30am
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

Of all the possible utensils that could have been invented to eat rice with……how the fuck did TWO STICKS win out?
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September 2, 2018 10:39am
- Viking2
  
  Fork u2
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:46am
- rockape
  
  Its a hundred percent better than one!
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:10am
- Komata
  
  SC: Trees are readily accessable, they have twigs. It makes sense to use what is readily available, especially when you’re hungry…
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:40am
  - rockape
    
    They could get forked twigs though!
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:16pm
  - Viking2
    
    Bamboo not trees.
    
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    September 2, 2018 8:25pm
Hugh Pavletich

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Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/09/weekend-reading-1-2-september-2018/#comment-3178040 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/macro-afternoon-484/#comment-3178042

AUCKLAND: “A VANCOUVER OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC; BEAUTIFUL, BUT UTTERLY UNAFFORDABLE” … WENDELL COX … NEW GEOGRAPHY

http://www.newgeography.com/content/006072-auckland-a-vancouver-south-pacific-beautiful-utterly-unaffordable

New Zealand’s Minister of Housing and Urban Development Phil Twyford reasserted the coalition government’s intention to abolish Auckland’s urban growth boundary at a recent environmental summit. Environmental Defense Society (EDS) CEO Gary Taylor expressed concern about eliminating “rural-urban boundaries” (urban growth boundaries, or UGBs) altogether, an Labour Party election promise. The Labour Party leads New Zealand’s coalition government. The minister responded: “We could build a Vancouver of the South Pacific; beautiful but utterly unaffordable.”

According to Politik (which calls itself “New Zealand’s most authoritative news and political analysis website”) “Twyford said the only way to deal with the affordability issue was to deal with the land price issue and that meant dealing with the artificial scarcity of land caused by the planning system and the availability of finance for infrastructure.” He added: “I’m interested in us fixing this totally dysfunctional urban land economy.”

The dysfunctional urban land economy is, to a large degree, the result of urban containment policy used in Auckland that virtually outlaws detached housing subdivisions on the urban fringe required to maintain affordability. Indeed, the vast expansion of the middle-class during the decades following World War II owed much to such housing developments, not only in New Zealand, but also Australia, Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, much of Western Europe, Japan and other places as well.

A Question of Values

Twyford characterized action on the housing affordability crisis as a “question of values,” and said “This is for us, for Labour, for our coalition government, this is fundamentally a social justice issue.” He added: “If we don’t deal with affordability we will have completely wasted the opportunity that has been given to our generation.”

ANZ Bank Report Links High House Prices with Reduced Productivity Growth … read more via hyperlink above …
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September 2, 2018 10:41am
- wiseowl
  
  The only way to deal with affordability is to cut immigration to manageable levels.
  Another 5000 coming in this month.
  Where are they going to live??
  The answer is simple but politicians don’t want to confront it.
  Just stuff the country instead.
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:54am
- skyblue
  
  Just jealous you can’t afford to live in Auckland.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:12am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    … UPDATE …
    
    (Auckland Mayor) Phil Goff cautiously welcomes authority set up to fast-track housing projects | RNZ News
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/365412/phil-goff-cautiously-welcomes-authority-set-up-to-fast-track-housing-projects
    
    The Mayor of Auckland has cautiously welcomed government plans to set up an Urban Development Authority in the city to fast-track housing projects. …
    
    … The Urban Development Authority is likely to have control over up to 15 housing developments.
    
    It will become the planning and consenting authority, replacing the Auckland Council.
    
    Urban Development and Housing Minister Phil Twyford said the current set-up was not working.
    
    Auckland is 45,000 houses short, he said.
    
    “We need to build houses and more than that we need to build whole new communities,” he said. …
    
    … Local Government New Zealand supports the concept of urban development authorities because it recognises there are regulatory barriers outside the control of councils. … read more via hyperlink above …
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    Urban Development Authority a long overdue initiative … Auckland Business Chamber of Commerce | Scoop News
    
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1808/S00741/urban-development-authority-a-long-overdue-initiative.htm
    
    Setting up an Urban Development Authority with powers to get houses built faster in Auckland “is a long overdue initiative,” says Auckland Business Chamber head Michael Barnett. …
    
    … concluding …
    
    … With Government needing legislation to establish the UDA, Barnett said this should be put through Parliament under urgency to ensure the Authority is up and running by the end of the year. “Time is ticking.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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    How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
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    Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build
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    Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:42am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Wiseowl … check out my archival website Performance Urban Planning http://www.PerformancePlanning.org … and in particular the IPSOS Survey.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:34pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … NEW ZEALAND: CHRISTCHURCH CITY RESIDDENTIAL BUILDING CONSENTS CRASH FROM 300 JULY 2017 to JUST 133 JULY 2018 …
        
        … WHEN WILL HOUSING MINISTER TWYFORD (BELATEDLY) ALLOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT ? …
        
        Home consents down again in July | Stats NZ
        
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/home-consents-down-again-in-july
        
        … Over 2 years ago National and Labour were saying this … together …
        
        Labour, National both tell council Auckland city growth limits should be abolished | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80113578/labour-auckland-city-growth-limits-should-be-abolished?rm=m
        
        … and reminded of their promises again recently …
        
        Govt criticised (by Pavletich) for moving slowly on Auckland growth boundary | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary
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        … NOTE TOO … LATEST FROM AUSTRALIA …
        
        (Australia) Dwelling approvals down heavily in July – MacroBusiness Australia
        … behind paywall …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/dwelling-approvals-heavily-july/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) has released dwelling approvals data for the month of July. At the national level, the number of dwelling approvals fell by a seasonally adjusted 5.2% to 18,185. The overall decline in approvals was broad-based with both the unit & apartment segment (+6.6%) and detached house segment (-3.0%) posting falls.
        
        In the year to July 2018, dwelling approvals fell by a seasonally-adjusted 5.6%, with house approvals down 2.8% whereas unit approvals fell by 6.2%: … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        September 2, 2018 4:40pm
Morrissey

Deadbeat Dads
No. 7: JOHN SLATER

A National Party blueblood, Slater was born into a family with an “impeccable centre-right political background,” according to Auckland mayor John Banks, who has known the blogger all his life. Slater’s father, John, is a former National president, current president of Auckland’s Citizens and Ratepayers council bloc, and one of the mayor’s oldest friends and political supporters.

A genteel and morally conservative Christian, Slater senior feels his son “sometimes goes too far”, but sees it is clearly paying off for him. “For a long time he was seen as `son of John’, now I’m becoming `father of Cameron’.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/2583835/Internet-warrior

And in case you’ve ever wondered just why Sir John’s deadbeat son denounces Michelle Boag whenever he can….
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=193796

Happy Father’s Day to ALL the Deadbeat Dads…
1 Sir John Key, 2 Bill “Double Dipper” English; 3 Sir Douglas Graham; 4 John Banks; 5 David Cameron; 6 Kingsley Amis

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”—Matt. 7:16
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September 2, 2018 10:43am
- Viking2
  
  What a shit head. No One does shit like a lefty.
  
  By the way did you look at the title of that page. Seems the MSM weren’t much good at stuff then.
  
  “National party pesident vote holds no fears for Slater ”
  
  Copy of the headline. See anything wrong?
  I blame the teachers. 😆
  
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  September 2, 2018 10:52am
  - Morrissey
    
    “Pesident”? That’s an anagram of TED PENIS.
    
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    September 2, 2018 10:56am
- Longknives
  
  Sir John Key is a ‘Deadbeat Dad’?
  What the fuck is wrong with you man??
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:06am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    That’s quite a strong condemnation, coming from Longknives, as John Key is a well-known All Blacks supporter.
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:09am
  - Jack5
    
    Morrissey’s okay, but occasionally his brain is addled – overwhelmed by transcribing two radio stations at once.
    
    Morrissey, you can’t judge people completely by their offspring. Alois J. Hitler was a plodder, but did not cause his boy to become an insane mass murderer (unless, unless … he couldn’t have passed on hereditary syphilis, could he?).
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:25am
    - Morrissey
      
      Sometimes three at a time. Like Trump with Russian whores.
      
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      September 2, 2018 11:26am
      - realityczech
        
        Morris Dancer – why are you so triggered by desirable virile men who are attractive to women?
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:28am
      - Jack5
        
        Morrissey, you have to admit that Melania Trump is a bit of alright.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:30am
      - Morrissey
        
        Which women thought Key was virile or desirable? Certainly not any with a brain, or aged less than 40.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:30am
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, Morris Dancer is only aroused by vegan soyboy metrosexuals.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:32am
      - Morrissey
        
        Sure do, Jack. Sure do.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LQdh42neg&list=RDQMj8PoBKl5SNM&start_radio=1
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:32am
  - Morrissey
    
    Proof: Max Key.
    
    “By their fruits ye shall know them.”—Matt. 7:16
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:25am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?” Matthew 7:3
      
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      September 2, 2018 11:40am
      - Morrissey
        
        “Plank.”
        
        Yet another allusion to Key. You really are a fan.
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:32pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Fuck off Morrissey. Bill English is a hundred times the father that you’ll ever be.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:29am
  - Morrissey
    
    Christ almighty. How many bastards does he have?
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:35am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Morrissey is living proof that closing mental institutions was a bad idea.
      
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      September 2, 2018 11:41am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I disagree Captain. Mental health patients generally do bizarre things through no fault of their own. On the other hand, Morrissey knows EXACTLY what he is doing with his snide personal attacks.
        
        I note his “deadbeat dad” list actually has nothing to do with parenting, and everything to do with people he dislikes. To post something like that on Fathers’ Day, loosely linking parenting to hate-filled politics, tells you all you need to know about Morrissey Breen.
        
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        September 2, 2018 11:48am
    - kowtow
      
      OK , I’ll bite……
      
      Morrissey is an anagram for CUNT.
      
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      September 2, 2018 6:42pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Yow! Now THAT hurt.
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:48pm
UpandComer

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/08/28/feminist-government-team-within-trudeau-government-wants-to-pay-small-businesses-to-preferentially-hire-immigrants-refugees/

Canadian feminists want to pay businesses to not hire European Canadians.
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September 2, 2018 10:59am
- DigNap15
  
  I hope they enjoy getting raped, shot or blown up by them as well!
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:44am
UpandComer

https://freebeacon.com/culture/confessions-of-steve-jobss-forgotten-daughter/

Steve jobs was an awful father.
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September 2, 2018 11:13am
- realityczech
  
  He was an awful employer too. He was also a deeply corrupt and dishonest psychopath, who made an inferior product, dressed up with image based marketing. Only wankers buy his companies products.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:16am
  - Jack5
    
    ? Way to go! Kea dives on tourists’ iPhones and Apple laptops.
    
    But Steve Wozniak was a good bloke. And Jobs did turn around a nearly bust Apple. The company is now running out of his ideas, though.
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:21am
  - Morrissey
    
    Only wankers buy his companies products.
    
    I use Apple products. Go fuck yourself.
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:44pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      That retort will surely teach him.
      
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      September 2, 2018 2:42pm
- Morrissey
  
  Dear UpandComer,
  
  Thanks for that. He’s now under consideration for our Deadbeat Dads series.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  Morrissey Breen, for the Daisycutter Sports team.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:46am
- GoVege
  
  Quite a few super-rich guys are not very nice.
  I read that Sarkozy’s dad used to plead poverty in court to avoid paying maintenance to his wife and kids.
  Then he’d drive away in a rolls or similar.
  He also told Sarkozy he would never amount to anything.
  
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  September 2, 2018 7:22pm
Jack5

Money tight?

The Government announces $4 million over four years to help “raise awareness” about the NZ land wars.

More Maorification of a bi-cultural country’s history.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/365475/govt-invests-in-raising-awareness-of-nz-wars
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September 2, 2018 11:19am
- DigNap15
  
  How is that an investment
  Who came up with that silly idea.
  There are lots of book on the subject .
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:46am
  - Jack5
    
    But, DigNap15, this will be oral history. And in Aotearoa, inherited tales trump written history.
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:49am
  - Komata
    
    DN: Ah, but they were written by Anglo’s and only MAORI know the truth. Not sure how this latest revision of actual history, is going to get around the slight inconvenience of different tribes aligning with ‘Whitey’ to settle old scores, but no doubt somrthing will be arranged…
    
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    September 2, 2018 1:30pm
- realityczech
  
  “More Maorification of a bi-cultural country’s history.”
  
  Jacksie, how do you then explain the Jewification of Israel that you support so intensely?
  
  Why all the special pleadings for the Jew?
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:48am
  - Jack5
    
    ‼Krealityczech‼ – who are these, these “Jews”, of whom ye speak?
    
    Do they use iPhones and Apple computers?
    
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    September 2, 2018 11:56am
  - realityczech
    
    The Jews teach they came from Egypt (That is in Africa) to a an area that had been civilised centuries before. They left for a thousands of years, before reinventing the region has their “homeland” displacing (again) those who had lived there for centuries. You support this – but demand Maori accept we are “multicultural”.
    
    The zionist Jew regards you as barely human in return. Fool.
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:02pm
  - stinkypete
    
    Are you an actual Nazi or just a fanboy
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:09pm
    - realityczech
      
      I am pretty sure the Nazi shared Jacksies views (and Israel’s) on racial purity, rather than my view that all people should be treated equally, and that Jews should NOT be singled out for special treatment. You know that of course and are simply a vile putrid religious bigot.
      
      This is cut and paste Israeli policy.
      
      http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:14pm
    - Jack5
      
      Re Stinkypete at 12.09:
      
      ‼Kearealityczech‼ and 卐EADolf are the resident anti-Jewish fanatics. They are obssessed with Jews.
      
      I suspect that if ‼Kearealityczech‼ had a DNA test he/she would prove to have more in common with typical Jewish DNA than would 95 per cent of Kiwiblog posters. As for 卐EADolf: in my opinion he is just barking mad.
      
      The ‼ symbols often crop up in their posts.
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:16pm
      - realityczech
        
        Have you noticed any anti-Muslims on here Jacksie? They seem to attract no comment from you. Why is that?
        
        Why does critical comment on Arab semites not attract howls of protest from you about “anti semites”? Why does the denial of the holocaust in Burma right now not attract hysteria?
        
        Why is the Jew and its enablers always so appalling dishonest and why do they always want to ban free speech?
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:22pm
      - realityczech
        
        “typical Jewish DNA than would 95 per cent of Kiwiblog posters”
        
        You don’t know the half of it Jacksie. If you pulled the religious bullshit out of your tiny brain you might see that makes my point – not yours.
        
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        September 2, 2018 12:28pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  How can there be ‘Maorification’ (whatever the fuck that means) of something that involved Maori quite heavily – namely the invasion and conquest of their country?
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:45pm
  - Longknives
    
    “Invasion”?
    “Conquest”?
    “Their”??..
    
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    September 2, 2018 3:42pm
    - Jack5
      
      “Maorification” is Milky wearing a bone carving and carrying a briefcase full of macrons.
      
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      September 2, 2018 5:41pm
Jack5

Have we talked yet about the Labour Coalition’s multi-billion spend up on NZ transport?

Title of a future NZ pop. history? The Roads to Economic Ruin.

These projects’ costs are always under-estimated, so doubtless there will have to be further rises in tax on petrol. This will keep the Greens happy. We’ll all be biking and glaring at the bureaucrats and union secretaries in their electric cars.

If the transport spend-up, particularly in Auckland, doesn’t bust us, then replacing the roads and underground railways after quakes and volcanic eruptions will.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/365384/government-to-invest-16-point-9-billion-in-transport-over-next-three-years
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September 2, 2018 11:48am
- UpandComer
  
  I talked about it all election lol. The costings for their light and heavy rail projects are pyre whimsy. Adduming everything goes right double the costs.
  
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  September 2, 2018 11:54am
UpandComer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oNoy6AJ3-HY

Can’t always be maudlin. Link is a great instrumentation of Waltzing Matilda from Civilization VI. Very cheery. Morrissey should have a listen. The US theme is moving also.

We need to get NZ in the next civilization game lol.
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September 2, 2018 11:48am
rockape

For Sale.
Unused Labour “Lets do this” T Shirts.
Shortly to be replaced with Labour ” Lets have a conversation “t shirts.
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September 2, 2018 12:01pm
gorse

Things must be bad for Labour, the MSM are starting to publish reality about them at last. Bad news instead of the rubbish we have been getting fed.
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September 2, 2018 12:09pm
- stigie
  
  “the MSM are starting to publish reality about them at last.”
  
  Agree except for Heather do you please me Allen !~
  What the hell is Barely Sober feeding her these days..?
  
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  September 2, 2018 12:31pm
Maggy Wassilieff

German wind farm killing rare raptors
http://notrickszone.com/2018/09/01/german-real-environmentalists-outraged-over-killed-protected-red-kites-move-to-have-wind-park-shut-down/
& another exploding wind turbine
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September 2, 2018 12:11pm
- Komata
  
  But, but Maggi, windfarms are ‘environmentally friendly’ don’t cha know… Those who were loudest when advocating for the farm’s constructions, will equally be conspicuous in their absence concerning this, cos after all ‘they’re only birds’.
  
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  September 2, 2018 1:52pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/106758956/generous-stranger-shouts-scammed-family-pink-tickets-and-flights

Pardon my cynicism, but isn’t this precisely what she hoped would happen after going to the press yesterday ? And someone fell for it !
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September 2, 2018 12:19pm
- Longknives
  
  For some reason it reminded me of this family-
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10469520
  
  Darlings of the NZ Media during the 2007 RWC until it emerged they were a family of crooks and fraudsters..
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:16pm
stephieboy

The latest alt right conspiracy thing,

What is QAnon?

The conspiracy theory centers on a mysterious and anonymous online figure — “Q.” According to The Daily Beast, “Q” began posting on anonymous Internet message boards in October 2017. The person or persons behind the “Q” persona claim to possess a top-level security clearance and evidence of a worldwide criminal conspiracy.
What’s the conspiracy theory?

It goes like this: Special counsel Robert Mueller isn’t actually investigating Trump and his 2016 campaign for their possible ties to Russia, and he’s not really looking into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Rather, Mueller was appointed by Trump to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and other top Democrats, like former Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. According to posts written by “Q” — dubbed “breadcrumbs” by the theory’s followers — even Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is a target of Mueller’s so-called investigation…”

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/02/634749387/what-is-qanon-the-conspiracy-theory-tiptoeing-into-trump-world

Why do people ( Trump supporters or not) believe in such weird stuff?
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September 2, 2018 12:24pm
- realityczech
  
  Never heard of it stupidboy.
  
  Where do you Trump haters get this bullshit? Is it from the same nutters who made up a big story about Trump being a secret Russian agent ? LOL 🙂
  
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  September 2, 2018 12:33pm
  - realityczech
    
    Quick google search. Here is a leading anti Trump propaganda site saying how “unpopular” Qanon is – so clearly Trump supporters are not into this fabrication of the alt-left.
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/08/30/the-qanon-conspiracy-movement-is-very-unpopular-our-new-poll-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.58d546e97c1d
    
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    September 2, 2018 12:35pm
    - Jack5
      
      ‼Kearealityczech‼ – are you happy with President Trump cutting aid to the Palestinians? ?
      
      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/31/us-cuts-nearly-300-million-in-aid-for-palestinian-refugees.html
      
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      September 2, 2018 12:56pm
      - DigNap15
        
        I am.
        They need to stop breeding in their desert shit hole.
        No jobs, no economy, just useless breeders and terrorists.
        
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        September 2, 2018 5:47pm
- UpandComer
  
  That’s not what it is. Q is a team of insiders providing counterfactuals that keep being validated. It’s empirical and substantiated enough to have earned both credence and opprobrium. Remember, the Brutus conspiracy was conspiracy until it became history. Even if you can’t be bothered with it, it’s entertaining and in depth. NZ media is so garbage, basic, partisan and disingenuous, what possible harm is there having a look at other sources of news? It’s no different to CNN and the NYT reporting on the basis ‘a person with inside sources’. Its fun piecing things together internationally. If it’s too much to consider as hard news, just think of it as entertainment news. Go to Neon Revolt as the best source for Q material. Remember, reading stuff.co.nz and Du Plessis Allen is the mark of the learned Stephie. Neon revolt is great for a lazy Sunday.
  
  https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/09/01/catching-up-with-newq-the-59-drop-mega-post-qanon-greatawakening-neonrevolt/
  
  Don’t let Stephie make you think Q is uncool, not a cool set like him.
  
  The old Q in James Bond was Stirling:
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd3z20EtBzI
  
  But i need to retire into more productive enterprise.
  
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  September 2, 2018 1:23pm
Ross12

I do not buy the Q stuff, stephieboy, but the reality is the Mueller “investigation” has turned out to be an effective way of exposing the Clinton/DNC/Podestra/Deep State antics and crimes.
President Trump could have legitimately closed down Mueller very early –a Special Counsel is meant to be appointed to investigate a real crime. In this case a crime has not been committed by Trump or his campaign.
But by allowing the investigation to carry on the USA has learnt a lot about the “Deep State”, in particular , which it would not know about without Mueller’s witch hunt.
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September 2, 2018 1:14pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Um, your tirade is pretty much a repetition of the QAnon bullshit.
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:47pm
  - Ross12
    
    Time will tell where the BS is MMA.
    
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    September 2, 2018 3:00pm
- KevOB
  
  Time may be healing the Americas. With all the concurrent Congressional investigations and the office of the Inspector General inquiring too Muellers scratching away is revealing a self-serving deceitful body politic and hangers on.
  
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  September 2, 2018 4:15pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I think that’s a bit optimistic. I know it’s a cliche, but I can’t see anything that would check the accelerating trend toward the imperial presidency. Two terms are likely for Trump, followed by President Jarvanka, buttressed by a locked-in partisan majority on the Supreme Court, which in turns secures compliant electoral laws.
    
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    September 2, 2018 6:36pm
Monique Watson

Raise your hand if you’re still a little drunk from last night.
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September 2, 2018 1:50pm
- Longknives
  
  I got a nice bottle of Liquor for Father’s Day Monique so might join you in your intoxicated glory this afternoon when the wife takes the kids out!
  
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  September 2, 2018 2:20pm
  - Longknives
    
    A Downtick for that?
    Doug Sellman is that you?..
    
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    September 2, 2018 5:21pm
Happychappy

So Winston is getting the payback from the racing fraternity for his push to change the Racing Board and sell out all the small Racing Clubs in NZ. Winston and four of his MP’s hosted a $600 a head dinner for the racing fraternity a day before the realease of the report he had commissioned to change the Racing Industry of NZ. Winston says nothing was discussed from the report before it release the next day but many people have doubts about that, also wasn’t Winston one of those that condeemed National for their Cabinet Club Dinners and called them access for cash when National had them. A pity the taxman wasn’t around to check his wallet at the end of the night.
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September 2, 2018 2:39pm
- RF
  
  This object is lower than shark droppings
  
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  September 2, 2018 5:17pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So an expensive fund raising dinner for NZF quickly followed by a huge tax payer funded payout to racing industry.
  
  There is an ongoing stench of corruption emanating from NZF:
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12020482
  
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  September 2, 2018 8:44pm
Longknives

Pretty quiet round here today…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WatQeG5fMU
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September 2, 2018 4:00pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Perhaps you could watch your DVD of the 2011 RWC final again.
  
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  September 2, 2018 6:22pm
  - Longknives
    
    Funny how for such a supposedly ‘Great moment in NZ Sport’ you NEVER see highlights or replay of that match.(I think most decent Kiwis are a little embarrassed the supposedly ‘unbeatable’ All Blacks stole that match)
    I was there and it was a farce.
    France were 15-20 points better than the most arrogant sports team on the planet that day- Probably fuelled by that dickhead Ali Williams mocking them beforehand..
    The whole Rugby World knows a terrified referee was the ONLY reason they won that match.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7C6bTHyC0U
    
    What a pathetic joke.
    
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    September 2, 2018 7:01pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I was there and it was a game that could have gone either way. That was a shock, given how easily the All Blacks had put away France in the pool game. C’est la vie.
      One of my most vivid memories is of the ranks of glum Aussie fans. At least that cheered me up (a bit) when it looked like we might lose.
      
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      September 2, 2018 7:07pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The French team did not try in that pool match. Surely you noticed that?
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:52pm
    - RF
      
      Longknives..
      
      Now that you mention the dick head druggie Arli Williams name, where is he ?
      
      I heard he had lined up a cushy job but not sure what or where.
      
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      September 2, 2018 7:45pm
nasska

I would just like to take this opportunity to wish everybody a happy Fathers Day. Also I would like extend my sympathy to anyone from South Auckland.

Dads, who needs them anyway eh?
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September 2, 2018 5:58pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Seconded. But should we perhaps exclude Catholic ‘Fathers’ from our good wishes today?
  
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  September 2, 2018 6:21pm
  - nasska
    
    I’m sure that many altar boys discovered the true meaning of giving & receiving this morning. 🙂
    
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    September 2, 2018 6:29pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Do they still have ‘altar boys’? Isn’t that just too much temptation for these perverts?
      
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      September 2, 2018 6:32pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Do they still have ‘altar boys’?
        
        I thought I’d check with one of the Catholic Churches where my neighbour had been an altar boy… and goodness me… they are now called altar servers and girls can perform the duties.
        
        Gosh, when did that happen?
        (By now you must be realising I know bugga all about Catholic goings-ons)
        so I googled… and came across this,
        
        https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/why-the-church-needs-not-altar-servers-but-altar-boys
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:27pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        That’s sad, sad column, Maggy.
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:33pm
      - nasska
        
        From Maggy’s link:
        
        ….”First, having all-male servers allows boys a time to be together without girls. As I noted in my previous article, this fosters a healthier masculinity in boys.”…..
        
        I have nothing that I could add to this statement! 🙂
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:38pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        From Maggy’s link:
        
        I also believe the military-like aspects of serving the [Traditional Latin Mass as an altar boy] attracted him. Here were boys standing at attention, following orders, and moving in unison to achieve their goal. Just like a military organization.
        …
        Further, having girls at the altar restricts the ability of the priest to really open up about life as a priest. … However, if there are only boys, he can reveal to them more openly what it means to be a priest.
        
        Words fail me.
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:45pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      I’m sure that many altar boys discovered the true meaning of giving & receiving this morning
      
      I imagine so.
      
      But there’s a business opportunity for those who are willing to embrace it: give yourself away to a perverted priest and then take $100,000 as payment.
      
      Like this guy: Former altar boy says he stole $100,000 from church as revenge for priest abuse. Mind you, I guess the priest now wonders if it might have been cheaper to visit a brothel for his jollies?
      
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      September 2, 2018 7:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Why pay at a brothel when you have young lads on tap in the sacristy?
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:12pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        But it’s not cheap at the going rate of $100,000 a pop (if you’ll excuse the pun).
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:15pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I don’t think the catholic church amassed its vast treasures by letting every abused altar boy get away with a bag of loot. On the contrary, most of the victims get nothing but messed up lives, accused of being liars, or empty promises that their molesters had been disciplined.
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:19pm
      - nasska
        
        That’s the way it goes Nostra. Some days you’re the priest….some days you’re the altar boy. 🙂
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:21pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        And other days you’re the guy peeping through the keyhole hoping for a piece of the action…?
        
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        September 2, 2018 7:30pm
Jack5

TheSouth China Morning Post has branded Senator John McCain as a “chronic warmonger, not a war hero”.

The Hong Kong newspaper is owned by Jack Ma, China’s equivalent of America’s Jeff Bezos, owner of Amazon.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/2162347/john-mccain-was-chronic-warmonger-not-war-hero
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September 2, 2018 6:33pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Remember “Bomb, bomb, bomb…bomb, bomb Iran”?
  
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  September 2, 2018 7:01pm
sooty

Twitford is busy showing off the first kiwi build house. I think that it would have to have been started by national I think!
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September 2, 2018 6:35pm
- nasska
  
  From https://www.labour.org.nz/kiwibuild
  
  …..”KiwiBuild will deliver 100,000 affordable houses over ten years for first home buyers. Half of these will be built in Auckland. “…..
  
  Eighteen houses in eleven months? Better let the handbrake off.
  
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  September 2, 2018 6:55pm
Komata

Sooty: You’re not supposed to have such thoughts; OF COURSE it was built under the COL’s administration, Mr Twyford says so and like his leader, he NEVER lies…
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September 2, 2018 6:54pm
Inandout

What sort of mongrels attack paramedics?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/man-dies-mob-attacks-paramedics-union-082000618–spt.html
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September 2, 2018 9:41pm
simpleton1

Follow on of Inandout’s link
Certainly quite a turn out. It seems that pararmedics need a platoon or a even a battalion of police to safely do their work.

….. Up to 80 angry males quickly gathered at the unit and allegedly threatened the health workers and charged at a female paramedic, injuring her shoulder. ……
….. the violent mob demanded a defibrillator and drugs believing they could treat the young man, …..
….. About 150 police arrived at the scene, including the Public Order Riot Squad, to rescue the paramedics.

There must have been a number of well trained organized young men who figured they could have done a better job at saving that life. If only they were not looked down upon and were allowed to use the defibrillator and drugs. 🙂
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