General Debate 25 September 2018

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AgainstTheFlow

Huge own-goal by the Coalition of Losers on the oil and gas ban.

No environmental gain because imports will make up any shortfall.
Price of doing nothing for the environment, losing thousands of jobs in Taranaki:
$7.9 billion (middle-range scenario).
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September 25, 2018 8:01am
- Poppa
  
  Yes I heard “3 pies” Woods trying to defend that decision earlier. Dear God, surely they could find someone with more brains!
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:05am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    All those pies; clearly a victim of CJD.
    
    (Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) is a rare, degenerative, invariably fatal brain disorder. It affects about one person in every one million people per year worldwide. CJD usually appears in later life and runs a rapid course.)
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:14am
  - Woz
    
    She talks like an eastern suburbs bog peasant.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:14am
    - pdm
      
      Megan Wood has been known as Miss Piggy in our house since before the 2017 election – named so by mrspdm.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:22am
      - softail 1450
        
        pdm, her thumbnail photo as she was talking to Garner on tv3 this morning was a fricking joke ,must’ve been taken when she was 18 and only about 90 kg.
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:38am
      - RF
        
        When you listen to her she huffs and puffs, obviously very short of breath.
        
        She does carry a fair amount of ballast up front so her prognosis is not flash.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:56am
    - Jack5
      
      Woz’s “She talks like an eastern suburbs bog peasant.”
      
      Are you a Christ’s College poofter, Woz?
      
      And no I’m not from the Eastern Suburbs, not even Christchurch born.
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:56am
  - KevOB
    
    Woods has a PHD but omitted the pre-requisite for sense.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:20am
    - kowtow
      
      PhD’s these days are a dime a dozen.
      
      More importantly what was the subject ?
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:27am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Pie crust design
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        Alt right family social structure and cohesion?
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:54am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Woods, Megan 2002: Integrating the nation: Gendering Maori urbanisation and integration, 1942-1969
        PhD thesis
        https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/handle/10092/4352
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:03am
      - KevOB
        
        “The influence on climate change by hoverflies feeding on clover decoration on mudpies in kindergartern sandpits.”
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:13am
    - cmm
      
      A PhD in history.
      
      You’re supposed to learn from history. Clearly that has not happened in this case. Doomed to repeat it.
      
      Commies fuck up everything.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:35am
      - Woz
        
        It wasn’t actual real history. It was the history of gender integration in modern urban Maoris, or some such lefty academic drivel. You can read her thesis online.
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:42am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        cmm, PhD in Afrikaans History?
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:52am
      - cmm
        
        No stephie, I’m pretty sure she didn’t study Afrikaans history.
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:58am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @stephieboy. Go and fuck yourself. The first human heart transplant was by a Afrikaaner. Some of us Jaapies inherited good genes from our European ancestors. Unlike you.
        
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        September 25, 2018 6:41pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Listen to Peter’s at 7.20am on Red Radio. His line of defence was attack the report as “flimsy”. His attack was the wide range of cost to the economy.
    
    When Espiner pointed out that the report was prepared by MBIE & peer reviewed by Yreasury, that didn’t matter to Peters, it was still a bad report. So then Espiner what was the basis of the government’s decision, Peters tried to say they took sound advice about transitioning to a low carbon economy. Espiner asked where the advice came from, answer MBIE.
    
    A case of Peters wanting it all ways, but making himself look stupid.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:34am
    - krazykiwi
      
      transitioning to a low carbon economy
      
      Back to the caves! No fuel. No food. Glorious de-population so Gaia can regain control.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:47am
    - Colinxy
      
      I often wonder when socialists talk about transitioning to a “low carbon economy” they’re actually speaking the truth about their long term agenda: humans are high carbon, and socialists are well known for their high human death toll.
      
      Ergo, oil, gas and coal are merely a smoke screen for bringing back the killing fields and reigns of terror.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:20am
    - Fisiani
      
      There was no advice to the Cabinet from MBIE about the oil and gas ban before the decision was made. Peters was lying yet again.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:39am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yes, I thought that at the time. They had no official advice.
        
        Given he rubbished the MBIE report, is he relying on a Russell Norman/Greenpeace report for decision making?
        
        Given Greenpeace are not renowned for their accuracy, I can just see Winston running for the airport and leave the SLG to justify the source for their outside cabinet decision making.
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:02pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Carbon is bad because … ?
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:35pm
    - Viking2
      
      Low carbon economy eh?
      Well peters could quit smoking.That would help his economy and ours.
      😆
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:05pm
- Swifty
  
  Economic treason. No gains but plenty of losses and risks to our energy security.
  
  They decided this on a whim – no analysis, no cost/benefit, no consultation – and now I see Woods trying to slime her way out of it by bad-mouthing her officials and their advice.
  
  Open and transparent – no, we’re being lied to by this Labour government.
  
  An utter disgrace.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:15am
  - Chris R
    
    If this idiotic treasonous act is in anyway defensible then why did these losers not place it before the public before embarking on it? The reason is of course that the decision was made by the Greenie fools and naively followed by Taxinda. There was no forethought, no economic analysis, no consultation and not a care beyond their intoxicating virtue signalling! I detest these mindless pricks!
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:25am
  - Paulus
    
    And they do not care !
    Hippocrates – and with enough gerrymandering and the MMP limit down to 3% they will get back in with Peters running the show.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:31am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Hypocrites? 😉
      
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      September 25, 2018 4:29pm
  - KevOB
    
    How can a govt lie if it only states what it truly believes?
    The self deluded communicating that delusion by degrees to others.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:17am
- artemisia
  
  QOTD on the wireless from Minister Megan Woods – ‘We’re not a government to cross our fingers and hope for the best’.
  
  Ummm, yep you are.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:16am
  - KevOB
    
    ‘We’re not a government to cross our fingers and hope for the best’.
    
    In true commie style their self belief is adequate.
    You don’t need hope when you know you’re right.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:23am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    ‘We’re not a government to cross our fingers and hope for the best’.
    
    Obviously not.
    
    The fingers are far too fat to cross.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:30am
    - sooty
      
      The fingers are far too fat to cross!
      That’s what you get when the fingers are in the trough! Certainly living far above their station in life. The best gig the have had and will ever have in their lives. Where do they go from here? Only down.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:40am
- cmm
  
  But the UN luvvies Jacinda is visiting for job interviews will love it.
  
  That’s all this is about. Pad the SLG’s CV.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:17am
- flipper
  
  But….but ….but …. that cannot be right.
  The bouncing blubber ball from ChCh says it is all wrong.
  What is actually wrong is that f/wits like Woods, Ardern and Shaw et al should never be in the House.
  They are, as WOHB says, committing economic treason.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:04am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  MBIE report says up to $23 billion cost to NZ, also said likely to increase global CO2 emissions, not decrease it.
  
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  September 25, 2018 10:12am
Jazzby

We can conduct a war on drug manufacturers and suppliers, but also a health-based approach to help users: the two aims aren’t mutually exclusive. But this appears too complicated for our Prime Minister to work out. Spare me.
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September 25, 2018 8:02am
- Longknives
  
  Drugs are Good.
  Police are Bad.
  
  Left Wing 101 Jazzby….
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:05am
  - kowtow
    
    Gangs are brown,
    So untouchable.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:29am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  That’s more about publicly denying Trump than good policy.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:18am
Longknives

Did I hear right on Breakfast TV this morning?
Did the Green Party Bimbo really say something like ‘The International Media just adore Jacinda’??

Lady the vast majority of rest of the World’s Media doesn’t give a flying fuck about New Zealand and most wouldn’t have even heard of Little Miss ‘Capitalism has Failed’ Ardern…
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September 25, 2018 8:03am
- Inandout
  
  Save CNN perhaps?
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:05am
  - hullkiwi
    
    & the 4million who watch the Today show on NBC.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:26am
    - Harkman
      
      I bet you less watched that morning. I also bet that CNBC or Fox Business aren’t interested in having Cindy on their network.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:44am
      - VicParking
        
        2.7 million, more watched. Big Brother 5.7m
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:07am
    - flipper
      
      4 million sounds a lot to wet behind the ears NZers. But what about the day in day out 20+ million that watch Fox ?? Ardern would never go near Fox. They would have her anorexic guts for garters.
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:36am
      - igm
        
        Fox invariably invite class and intelligence, Ardern would not qualify, she being what one once referred to as a “Drongo”.
        
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        September 25, 2018 5:38pm
- Woz
  
  Still struggling to find any coverage of her on all the big international news sites.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:07am
- Swifty
  
  I’m not at all surprised if they did.
  
  This is what passes as news these days.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:16am
  - dave_c_
    
    Indeed – sound bites – In Arderns case – very very small bites
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Said she knew ‘how difficult it was to be a mother especially a solo mother’ (not mother in the Hone vernacular one assumes).
  
  How many solo parents (parents as one can recognise the that being a mother is not confined to a single sex) in this country would chop off their left arm to be a single mother with a chauffeur driver 7 series, private jet, Tesla in the driveway in a $2m home next to the boat, feather bedded pension with free travel on a mere $500,000.00 per annum?
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:19am
  - Cunningham
    
    I agree, it’s pretty condescending
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:33am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Patronisinig is a word that conjoins with bastard quire nicely
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:56am
    - Chris R
      
      Cunningham: Yes it is condescending if not worse. It is utterly patronising and reminds me of slimey Michelle Obama visiting Soweto and other black townships and saying “as one black woman to all you black women, I’m with you, understand you, and love you!” Racist bigotted creep like her husband!
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:27am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And a state funded nanny.
    
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    September 25, 2018 3:38pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny Paulus Gnome after all the extra cost being heaped on the tax payer taking not just the baby but toy boy plus a nanny she still showed up at the UN with the baby? The only thing that in any way makes her noticeable is not being able to find NZ mentioned as a signatory to the War on Drugs proposal signed by 130 countries. Even that will not be until she has left after saving the world as easily as solving child poverty in NZ. Meanwhile back home drug users will be compensated to support their habit that got them evicted since their normal drug money is having to go in the tank at the pump. While Twitford works hard to localize their markets more with intensive housing which will save them fuel costs by using the new train. What a caring compassionate lot they are. Yea right.
    
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    September 25, 2018 3:42pm
- G152
  
  Currently we have the population of a large city and are at the end of the Earth for transport and industry.
  Cindy is blowing a lonely trumpet in a world that has gone on ignoring/ leaving the left to their Useless Nations and talkfests.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:12am
Captain Mainwaring

So Megan Three Pies has announced that the accidental government will legislate to ban future offshore oil & gas exploration when current permits expire, costing the country at least $8 billion and making us more vulnerable to international pressures.
If Mr. Bridges does not step up to the plate TODAY and announce that a National Government would make a priority of repealing this legislation then he will lose whatever flaky support he has.
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September 25, 2018 8:03am
- Sofia
  
  The ban in April took the industry by surprise because it was not part of any confidence and supply or coalition agreement and had not been explicitly promised by Labour during the election campaign.
  However Ardern said it was an important step to address climate change.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12130905
  
  There is still no explanation why this measure did not go before Cabinet, or who exactly decided the policy and what precisely was traded by whom against other policies to get agreement which had not existed earlier.
  
  When you are faced with clowns, go for the juggler.
  So, what did Winston get out of this?
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:06am
  - redeye
    
    Yes only 2 weeks Ardern was squawking “All policies go through a cabinet process”
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/watch-parliament/ondemand?itemId=202590
    I’m not sure why Bridges didn’t point this out.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:21am
    - mandk
      
      I was wondering that too.
      
      She was clearly lying to Parliament when she said that.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:22am
    - KevOB
      
      Mr Speaker (Labour) won’t allow it.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:25am
    - Paulus
      
      Because the media would not even acknowledge it as Bridges is not a real woman.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:33am
- Maxx
  
  It doesn’t matter if Bridges does make a priority of repealing this legislation as the damage is done. What company would have confidence (there’s that word again) that this wouldn’t be overturned by the next Government?.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:26am
  - Harkman
    
    But there is one positive, it’s the end of Winston as a +5% political entity.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:46am
    - KevinH
      
      Winston was on RNZ this morning attempting to defend the coalition’s ban on new prospecting applications.
      He argued that MBIE had supplied the data that formed the basis of the decision and that cabinet had discussed the policy prior to the announcement.
      Guyon Espiner did try to press home the wide variance in loss of revenue projections but was deflected by Winston.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:21am
    - alwyn
      
      Why does 5% matter?
      I’m willing to bet that, about 3 months before the 2020 election, the 5% threshold will be reduced to whatever level Winston decides is necessary to get him back into Parliament. The Greens will happily vote for the bill because they are likely to be in the same boat as Winnie. About to be booted out of the trough line.
      It won’t be earlier than that because that might encourage other parties, no currently in the house, to have a go.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:26am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Maybe Labour would be tempted to give them the finger?
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:10am
      - Jack5
        
        The 5 per cent threshold was introduced into the German MMP system, which NZ later adopted, after the Western Allies returned self-government to the people of West Germany after World War 2.
        
        The Germans wanted the threshold to prevent the many-parties chaos system under which Hitler gained power.
        
        MMP is deeply flawed, putting unfair power int he hands of small minorities. Reducing the threshold will make it worse.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:39am
      - Paulus
        
        It has been said that the secret agreement allows the MMP limit to be reduced to 3%.
        With the Waka Jumping Bill the Labour led Coalition plus the hangers on cannot do but agree to this.
        So if Peters were to lose half of his 7% at the last election at 3% he still gets back.
        That is why he doesn’t care and is laughing.
        He cannot lose – Ardern can but not the NZFirst.
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:34pm
- Dave Mann
  
  If Mr. Bridges does not step up to the plate TODAY and announce that a National Government would make a priority of repealing this legislation…. etc
  
  Don’t hold your breath. In fact don’t hold your breath on any future National led government repealing any of the wrecking treasonous incompetent and fake virtue driven stupidities of this present bunch of clowns.
  
  I haven’t heard one word from National to the effect that they actually repeal any of this shit.
  
  What we desperately need is for a new party to emerge which will work for the good of New Zealanders. And after the debacle of the last election this party needs to put forward an unemotional, factual and easily understood case for ridding us of MMP (amongst other things).
  
  This country is fucked unless good people step up now, and as far as I can see, there’s not a lot of them in the gutless National party.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:45am
  - Harkman
    
    Yep this country needs a Trump like figure more than it realises.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:48am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Maybe yes…. but Trump is such a lying arrogant stupid out-of-control asshole that I think this would be a last resort. I’m thinking more of a Bob Jones/David Garrett/Don Brash kinda guy. Surely Don could put together a team of like minds? We kiwis venerate our sports heroes so much; maybe there is one who can put more than two words together who is as concerned about this country as many KB readers are?
      
      For sure, something has to be done.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:00am
      - Harkman
        
        Bob Jones yes, Garrett probably wouldn’t get 5% (though I agree with his hard line on crime), I agree with Brash with his war on racism but he didn’t get 5% while at ACT either.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:22am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Bob Jones & Don Brash are 78 years old
        (Brash’s b.day was yesterday)
        
        I think they have had their day of leading political parties.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:48am
      - alwyn
        
        @Maggy.
        Only 78? They are mere children.
        Mahathir Bin Mohamad, Prime Minister of Malaysia is 93 years old.
        I don’t know whether he is the oldest head of a Government in the world but I would be surprised if there is someone even older.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:54am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Ah, that’s right..Mahathir is the World’s oldest leader.
        Mahathir has had over 70 years experience in politics as well as running his country for 18 years.
        He has acknowledged he’s just seat warming this time around until Anwar Ibrahim steps up.
        
        Check out what this man has done in his first 100 days of Office: (at end of Wikilink)
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahathir_Mohamad
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:11am
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    I’m pretty sure Bridges has said they will reverse the Ban.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:13am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  up to $23 billion cost, and report also states it is likely to increase not decrease global CO2 production.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:12am
  - Piniwi
    
    Also UrbanNeocolonialist we must wonder what they or how much they have factored in for that nasty thing called infrastructure? A radical change of source will mean some mega cost for suitable handling methods.
    The fact remains that i this Captains Call was evaluated and consulted on at all they would not say it is a “flimsy” appraisal from MBIE but lay it out chapter and verse. This is what happens when a silly little girl decides it is her nuclear moment to save the planet while complaining about others who will fill the void creating more pollution at their end. Don’t worry about whether the science is settled as the ideology in this one is equally flawed. The mind boggles.
    
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    September 25, 2018 3:59pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  If Mr. Bridges does not step up to the plate TODAY and announce that a National Government would make a priority of repealing this legislation then he will lose whatever flaky support he has.
  
  He already has, on numerous occasions.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103047486/nats-would-reverse-govts-decision-on-oil-and-gas-exploration
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:18am
- Manolo
  
  That is economic terrorism!
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:50pm
Inandout

And we have different drugs than the rest of the world, so says our mother of the nation. We shan’t join the war on drugs, so there Mr Trump, my commie mates will be ejaculating with joy today at my strong stance.
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September 25, 2018 8:04am
- oldpark
  
  @Inandout
  124 countries have signed up to a war against drugs and their distribution. If caught off to jail. Ardern seemed to saying NZ we dont jail drug pushers or their victims . That was just a veiled insult to President Trumps drug runners solution. Seems NZS little town jerk Ardern once more deliberately set out to openly upset President Trump.Luckily she was not voted in by wise NZs as PM. Nuff said.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:33am
  - Jack5
    
    Dunno, Oldpark. Portugal legalised drugs 17 years ago.
    
    The results:
    
    https://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
    
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    September 25, 2018 11:46am
- Viking2
  
  good job.
  The wars creates its own problems, not the least gangs and high prices leading to more crime.
  
  And it has been a disaster in terms of results.
  
  Legalize the lot and put people through tough programs.
  
  Nats. made it all worse so donn’t expect them to clean up.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Was Jacinda being economical with the truth by telling Parliament she hadn’t replied to Derek Handley’s texts?
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/367204/derek-handley-releases-correspondence-with-jacinda-ardern-and-clare-curran
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September 25, 2018 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Handley is now playing the victim card and has thrown Cindy and Curran under the bus.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12130986
  
  He says there was a robust recruitment process. It doesn’t really look that way to me.
  
  He had already decided to move back to NZ and was wanting a good gig. It looks to me like he was getting the GoodGigs4Mates treatment.
  
  He had clearly been in text and email conversation with Jacinda over a long time, yet she seemed pretty cagey on that front.
  
  Handley 23 April: “PM. Nice work on the European trip, you were the star no doubt Jacinda. After almost 15 years straddling the world and NZ, the time is right to truly come home. A big draw card is to help and support you in any way possible. Your fresh leadership is reason enough. How do we figure out how I can best serve you and New Zealand? I have a lot of ideas and think I can be very useful. How do we get together to explore what’s possible? Derek.”
  
  …some skipped…
  
  Jacinda Ardern 24 April: “This is really great news. Let’s catch up when you’re back for good perhaps? In the mean time I’ll talk to the team about how we can make use of you and your kind offer. Have you had some thoughts on this already?”
  
  So basically an invitation to make his own role and Cindy will lube up “the team” to get him a nice gig so he lands with everything sweetened up.
  
  These “I’ve done nothing wrong” over-entitled types are sickening.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:08am
  - Swifty
    
    Heh, what a greaser that guy is……
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:18am
  - JIV
    
    Wow, no wonder I cant get one of those sweet government jobs. He’s sucking up so much he’s created a vacuum. it makes me unwell reading his sycophantic texts
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:57am
- softail 1450
  
  M W ,what a crawling creature that Handley is ,no wonder he was a sitter for the job.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:10am
  - Woz
    
    He perfectly exemplifies the term “sycophant”.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:16am
    - cmm
      
      Perhaps not sycophant, but he certainly seems Machiavellian.
      
      Sucks up to Jacinda when it looks like that can get him a good gig when he comes back to NZ and could not find anything good on the free market.
      
      As soon as that turns sour he throws them under the bus trying to regain his own credibility and something along the lines of: “I’ve done nothing wrong, I’m the hapless victim”
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:20am
      - Woz
        
        Yup. I’ll give you that point.
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Sycophancy is the way to go….
    
    Until it goes belly-up… then spill the beans.
    
    If you are going down, pull as many down with you as you can… easier to crawl over their bodies than to pull yourself up by your own boot strings.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:24am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The Left as a whole is all about the aristocracy of influence. It’s who you know that matters. Handley is just playing the game by the rules.
    
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    September 25, 2018 12:39pm
- Prince
  
  No, she was lying. Situation normal.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:23am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Check out the timeline accompanying this tweet. Texts between the PM and Handley have also been released, and they contradict what Ardern told the House last week. She is donkey-deep in this.
  
  https://twitter.com/hamishpricenz/status/1044321256495927296
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:30am
  - Paulus
    
    Of course not her mind was on feeding time and the need for a pee !
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:36am
  - cmm
    
    I wonder if Simon can find the jar his balls are stored in?
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:37am
    - cmm
      
      Simon’s got some fans!
      
      Nope, when it comes to skewering he’s too much of a nice guy. That does not work when dealing with this sort of people.
      
      Perhaps Melissa Lee can pick up the shank instead.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:54am
      - GoVege
        
        Melissa Lee???!
        Time for Judy to step in and steer this boat….
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:02am
  - Tarquin North
    
    I’m not that up on the rules, but surely at the very least she has either lied to or misled the house?
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:38am
    - cmm
      
      The definition of a lie is a statement that is intended to deceive.
      
      Misleading, obfuscation, porkies, truth management, … call it what you want – it is still lying.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:43am
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        cmm, more throwing stones in glass houses stuff?
        
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        September 25, 2018 8:57am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Stephieboy, You imply that cmm is lying.
        Evidence your claim or withdraw and apologise.
        
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        September 25, 2018 3:45pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    I said it last week she was in trouble. JA’s answers then seemed economical with the truth then. Clearly, $100k wasn’t enough to buy off Handley.
    
    JA is donkey deep, she has got explaining, it’ll be interesting to watch how Duckie performs gymnastics to keep JA from ending up in front of the Privleges Committee. Even Peters on Red Radio was making sure he didn’t answer for this pile of manure.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:47am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Hull Kiwi , Derek Handley has released all of his correspondence with the PM demonstrating there was no impropriety or dishonesty on his part,
      
      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/367204/derek-handley-releases-correspondence-with-jacinda-ardern-and-clare-curran
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:01am
      - Tarquin North
        
        Maybe not on his part, but the one who never lies is looking more like Pinocchio by the minute.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:07am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No-one has accused Derek Handley of being dishonest in this matter.
        
        It is the PM that has deceived Parliament by saying she did not reply to his texts.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:08am
      - cmm
        
        Maybe not dishonesty, but I would not try to absolve him of impropriety.
        
        Dictionary definition of impropriety: “failure to observe standards of honesty or modesty; improper behaviour or character.”
        
        He used his mateship with Jacinda, and her vanity, to grease for a job because he wanted to come home.
        
        That’s hardly above board.
        
        Nope, he didn’t lose $100k here. He tried greasing a job with his mates. It backfired. He didn’t lose anything.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:30am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        Lots of people get jobs by knowing people. Lots of people say flattering things to people who are likely to send business their way. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. The person in the Prime Minister’s role should be capable of exercising good judgment and not be unduly influenced by a few compliments.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:44am
      - cmm
        
        “Lots of people get jobs by knowing people. Lots of people say flattering things to people who are likely to send business their way. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. ”
        
        That’s all fine in the small business sector where the business owner etc is choosing how to run their company.
        
        It is not fine in the government sector where political connections are being used to taxpayer funded jobs.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:09am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Stephie, I want referring to Handley lying. It was JA misleading the House last week in response to Bridges’ questions. JA will do well to avoid the Privleges Committee for misleading the House.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:21am
- Sofia
  
  Considering the tone of exchanges between Ardern and Handley it should be appropriate now to demand whether any similar communications occurred between Ardern, Curran and Hirschfeld.
  
   If Curran, being appointed to the Broadcasting job she wanted, asked Ardern, Curran’s ex-flamate and friend, “But what do I do about Dick Griffin and those against RNZ+, our proposed new television channel”, was any answer something like,“See what Carol Hirschfeld says – she pro-television and knows how RNZ ticks”
  
  As has been suggested before, the challenge to Simon Bridges or Melissa Lee is to frame a water-tight Parliamentary Question to PM Ardern that addresses the likelihood of such a “conversation”, as it is reasonable to consider such an exchange may have occurred – it seems a possible modus operandi .
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:43am
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    “Considering the tone of exchanges between Ardern and Handley …”
    
    ???
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:02am
    - VicParking
      
      Stephie: “Mention the name of Allah and eat it”
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:18am
    - Paulus
      
      Is the $100,000 plus costs taxed ?
      
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      September 25, 2018 1:38pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        The govt haven’t paid the money yet. Handley has said he will give the money less costs to the Spark Foundation.
        
        Department of Internal Affairs were asking this afternoon where to send the payment.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:51pm
igm

Murri will try anything to conjure up an unearned buck!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=12130717
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- itstricky
  
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  Murri will try anything
  
  Wankers will try anything to smear an entire race.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:12am
  - itstricky
    
    15 downticks?
    
    I guess we all forgot this pretty fast, didn’t we?
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/09/alison_mau_on_rachel_mcgregor.html#comment-2317000
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:00am
    - starboard
      
      Hat tip..Hobsons Pledge
      
      “Submit against Maori language entrenchment”
      The Crown’s strategy for Maori language revitalisation is to entrench Maori institutional racism across New Zealand society, according to commentator Michael Coote.
      
      Coote’s article titled Deconstructing the Maorification of NZ serves as a reminder that you have until 5pm on Friday to make a submission on the Government’s Maori language strategy.
      
      This may be done by taking the online survey on the Ministry of Maori Development website HERE, or by making a more detailed submission, and sending to maihi.karauna@tpk.govt.nz
      
      The online survey questions ask:
      
      Do you agree with the vision of the strategy, “Everywhere, Every way, Everyone, Every day”?
      Do you agree with setting a goal that New Zealand should value Maori language as a key part of national identity by 2040?
      Do you agree with a goal for 150,000 Maori speaking Maori as a primary language (at least equally with another language) by 2040?
      Do you agree with a goal for one million New Zealanders being able to talk about basic things in Maori by 2040?
      Do you agree with the priorities in the strategy?
      Do you agree with the priority groups in the strategy – children/youth, proficient speakers and public servants?
      Do you have any other comments about the strategy?
      As you ponder the survey questions, bear in mind the words of the former co-leader of the Maori Party Marama Fox, who revealed a plan for Maori control of New Zealand in a Listener interview just before the last election, according to another commentator, Muriel Newman, in a piece titled Cultural Indoctrination Week.
      
      Fox explained that the plan hinged on Maori language becoming compulsory in schools, which was all ‘plotted out’: “It would take 36 years – 12 election cycles – for a Maori sovereignty party to share government… it’s a radical vision… but if we believe in it, then we need to march towards it.”
      
      This party’s vision of shared Government involves replacing our Westminster model of Parliamentary democracy with a “unique form of governance that would favour Maori customs, principles and values”.
      
      Fox explained that our thinking needs to be shifted to achieve this goal, and a “critical step” is to make “the Maori language a core subject in the country’s schools… People look at things differently once they’ve acquired te reo. It’s a world view. The Maori world view is different and that’s expressed in the language. The language unlocks our history and our thinking”
      
      Read Deconstructing the Maorification of NZ at https://www.nzcpr.com/maori-myths-and-legends-deconstructing-the-maorification-of-new-zealand/#more-27402
      
      Read Cultural Indoctrination Week at https://www.nzcpr.com/cultural-indoctrination-week/#more-2741
      
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      September 25, 2018 10:38am
- softail 1450
  
  igm,,,Ash te wiri wasnt the sharpest needle in the pack was she,what a fucking moron i hope she gets the book thrown at her its economic terrorism.
  I suppose she’ll get off with the “she’s got children who rely on her” excuse….
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:53am
- backster
  
  So the cop said it was all an honest mistake, do his mates believe him?
  
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  September 25, 2018 10:19am
waikatogirl

Sad to hear dear old Merv Smith has died. The Radio ZB broadcaster and TV news reader died at age 85.
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September 25, 2018 8:05am
- Poppa
  
  Sad indeed. I have fond memories of Merv on 1ZB
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:07am
- softail 1450
  
  W G, when i was an apprentice Merv lived up on Hobsonville road in auckland,i had fitted an old y block ford v8 to my mk1 zephyr and merv used to complain on air about the noise the car made .
  This went on for some weeks until my folks clicked on that it was me and insisted i take another route so I didn’t antagonise Merv anymore.
  We met at a party many years later and had a great laugh about it …
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:17am
  - Swifty
    
    Heh, good story.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:19am
peterwn

Once again Air NZ and a tourist commentator are complaining of under-investment by NZ airports and how ill-prepared they are to meet allegedly surging tourism demand.
Air NZ and other airlines repeatedly call on the Government to screw airport investors (this includes many Kiwisaver savers) while the commentator calls on the Government to ‘do something’ about it.
They want it both ways.
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September 25, 2018 8:06am
- RW Capitalist
  
  I hear old Trumpy is looking to privatize parts of the air traffic control system, in the US.
  Maybe we could do that here.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:10am
  - peterwn
    
    The NZ Air Traffic Control system was corporatised some years back as part of Rogernomics but remains in Government ownership. I do not recollect it being prominently in the news for some time (apart from the building of a new control tower for Wellington Airport).
    This and other government agencies involved with airports (aviation security, immigration, immigration, MPI etc) are separate from the airport companies except for the provision of accommodation.
    As things stand, Auckland International Airport Ltd carries the risk of investment so will minimise the risk of over-investment because this is dead weight capital which is a burden on shareholders. This is why expansion projects are done ‘just in time’ and the it is accepted that there will be congestion at some times showing up as the need for ‘tarmac’ boarding and unboarding, general congestion especially pre Christmas etc.
    It is all very well for Air NZ and other airlines to demand the Airport spends more capital (in particular demanding that shareholders meet capital needs by forgoing dividends), while at the same time pressures the Commerce Commission to reduce returns to shareholders.
    Indeed the more external restraints placed on profitability, the less likely that the Board and shareholders will want to invest money.
    It is all very well to ask the Government to ‘do something’, but that requires a large financial commitment from the Government in one way or another – that is why the Government wanted out of the airports business in the first place. Anyway those with longer memories will remember that the Government when it owned the majority of Wellington Airport refused to invest in new terminal facilities and that did not happen until Ansett did some development and a new terminal did not eventuate until after the Government had sold out.
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:42am
  - Manolo
    
    Hell will freeze over first. Neither Labour nor Labour lite will ever do it!
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:53pm
softail 1450

L K , thats a bit unfair,she appeared on some Tv show that has an audience of 1% of the U S population ,She actually stated that she has no ego at all, FFS what next?
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September 25, 2018 8:07am
- Woz
  
  She WHAAAT? Lmao.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:09am
- Harkman
  
  I think you’ll find that Annabel Langbein has been on that show at least once. The show isn’t big enough for Peter Jackson.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:55am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “She actually stated that she has no ego at all”
  statement in-congruent with “I see no reason to lie”
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:57am
holysheet

A Scotsman was up in court accused of shagging a cat. The Magistrate let him off because in forty years of being on the bench, he’d never heard of a Scotsman putting anything in a kitty.
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September 25, 2018 8:07am
- cmm
  
  And you know why Scotsmen have long thin cocks? From being so tight fisted.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:11am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Then there was the one about the Scot who found a pair of crutches in the attic and went down and broke his own leg.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:26am
    - Disillusioned_Voter
      
      There is a nasty rumor going around that copper wire was invented by two Scotsmen fighting over a penny…
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:15am
- redeye
  
  Little known fact. Copper wire was invented by 2 Scotsmen fighting over a penny.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:40am
  - Disillusioned_Voter
    
    Sorry redeye, dried to delete mine but it no workie workie…
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:12am
oldpark

Heard the little town jerk” Commie Chic Comrade Ardern” big noting in New York about how she had almost single handed shut down NZs oil and gas industry. Not a word on what will happen to the people of Taranaki and NZ . Especially when she was rabbiting on about climate change. On something that may or may not be happening.
Wonder if it had any comon sense she would perhaps have spared a thought for the many many thousands of NZs who will be unemployed when the shut down of one of our major employers kicks in.
How about a plan for our potential unemployed NZs like food on the table ,in the here and now ,not some far off myth of climate change. Not forgetting a PETERS enabled idealogy out of control by the Coalition of Corruption and Chaos.
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September 25, 2018 8:11am
- cmm
  
  Virtue signalling: when your talk and your actions don’t agree.
  
  The Climate Change Princess. Shuts down oil and gas in NZ with no useful change in CO2 emissions, but still takes “her” jet for a flight on a trip that she did not need to go on, cranking out over 100 tonnes of CO2 in one day – more than the average person burns in a lifetime of transport.
  
  Aren’t Communist-inspired flats wonderful! Yet chooses to rather live in a $2M private house.
  
  One rule for the Zil class, the rest can get on the 10 year waiting list for a Trabant.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:27am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Under socialism, it is every man for himself.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:33am
Surely Knott

Derek Handley emails. Gold! Hahaha. No wonder I’ve never had a sweet government gig. But now I know where I’ve been going wrong. What confused me is that I thought Jacinda said she only received one email and didn’t respond and hadn’t spoken to him for a year or something. “PM, nice work on the Europe trip, you were the star no doubt….” Hahaha. We’re coming home and “A big draw card is to help you in anyway possible.” “Great news, Lets’ catch up when your back for good and I’ll talk to the team about how we can make best use of your kind offer. Have you had some thoughts on this, already?”
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September 25, 2018 8:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  Tova O’Brien interviewed by Duncan Garner on the Handley emails managed to skate right around the issue of Cindy organising jobs for mates – Cindy said, “I’ll talk to the team about how we can make best use of your kind offer”. Tova said the emails between Handley and the SLG were all before the appointment of Handley as CTO. Of course they were, that’s when you arrange jobs for mates who tell you are a star on the international stage. The SLG caught lying again. ?
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:28am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    They said there was nothing untoward.
    Questions, when did Handley move back to NZ?
    Not just come for an interview.
    When did his whole family come back to NZ?
    Relocate
    Did he have any other job interviews in NZ?
    This tells you, no matter what,that he EXPECTED to get THIS job and was only prepared to get this job.
    NOBODY moves their whole family, half way around the world without knowing they have at least some level of security.
    Also, we have text message and EMAIL trail, that, according to Tova, is innocuous.
    Q: How many times did they SPEAK on the phone?
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:53am
    - stephieboy
      
      RW Capitalist, go back and try managing a corner Dairy. Derek Handley has released all his texts and emails between the PM and himself.
      
      Q: How many times did they SPEAK on the phone?
      
      Do a wiretap or otherwise guess!
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:08am
      - VicParking
        
        Mention the name of Allah and eat it
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:27am
      - Paulus
        
        All his texts and emails ?
        Yea !
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:41pm
lifesgood

The PMs drop kick boyfriend is gleefully bragging on Twitter at how shocked some Japanese delegates were when they walked into a UN room during Neve’s nappy change. That is beyond disgusting, time and place etc. What on earth was he doing there with the baby? Why did the NZ public have to pay for her mother and a nanny to go? Who else is utterly embarrassed and mortified by these morons. How incredibly ignorant and insensitive to other cultures. How can we let the world know she does not represent us?
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- itstricky
  
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  How incredibly ignorant and insensitive to other cultures
  
  Oh… now… we care about other cultures. Perhaps you should scroll up and dis igm.
  
  We’re not paying anymore than we would normally.
  
  And babies shit. All the time. Constantly. All over the place. Can’t really control it. FYI.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:23am
  - cmm
    
    What the fuck is a baby being dragged around UN rooms? One reason only, to be used as a fashion accessory.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:29am
    - stephieboy
      
      cmm, focus on reviving your apartheid fantasies.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:11am
    - G152
      
      But the baby is good at producing Useless Nations product into a nappy
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:24am
  - lifesgood
    
    Showing your ignorance about diplomacy, eh, itstricky? Not that I’d expect more from a rabid lefty. There is never any need for a baby to be in a formal meeting room. There are cloak rooms, side rooms, private rooms etc. This is showing off, grand standing and trying to hidethe fact that Jacinda doesn’t have a clue. Next they’ll change a Poohey nappy on the Queen’s gold satin couch at Buckingham Palace in the unlikely event they are ever asked there. And, yes, the Japanese have a sense of decorum.
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:35am
    - sooty
      
      Poor old Hillbilly Jethro. He has not clicked yet, he is the joke!
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:47am
      - VicParking
        
        Idiots don’t know they are Idiots because they are Idiots
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:29am
    - itstricky
      
      Showing your ignorance about diplomacy
      
      I’d say it’s actually very good diplomacy. I don’t blame you for not, I can see how your thinking only goes as deep as “must make disparaging comment quickly; didn’t realise Clarke paid his own way; whoops”
      
      This is showing off
      
      Bollocks. If it’s in the rules, why the hell not. Good on her.
      
      And, yes, the Japanese have a sense of decorum
      
      So, yes, back to the culture shock. When are you going to have a go at ‘igm’ for his/her comment above? Any time today? Or do you only get all teary eyed at cultural offences against particular races?
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:57am
      - lifesgood
        
        Keep digging.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:00am
      - itstricky
        
        That’s all you’ve got? No reply? No heavy scolding of igm?
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:04am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        I thought that Jacinda said that she had paid for Clarke to go and that she would not use the new legislation regarding paid for nannies on the government for herself at the same time.
        
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        September 25, 2018 3:23pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Was Neve being changed on a table? That is culturally insensitive to Maori for one. Noa is the word I think.
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:29pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      No changing tables in the loos? How insensitive, every loo should have had one especially installed for the visit.
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:32pm
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    itsticky,it’s not only babies that spread shit around at any opportunity ,some of your posts prove that.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:02am
    - itstricky
      
      it’s not only babies that spread shit
      
      True. Do you mean kind of like your inability to use commas, capitals and sentence structure at any time?
      
      I love this one:
      
      igm,,,Ash te wiri wasnt the sharpest needle in the pack was she,what a fucking moron i hope she gets the book thrown at her its economic terrorism.
      
      Did you come up with it all by yourself?
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:07am
      - softail 1450
        
        itsticky,LOL, did ,I offend ,you ,sticky ,?you ,lefty ,troll,…there you go you fricking grammar nazi ive made up for any mistakes that horrified your school teacher standards .
        have you ever wondered why you have few friends sticky? it’s because not many folk can equal your superior intellectual abilities and just don’t bother with you anymore……’.,,,,;::”-!!”” L O L.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:18am
      - itstricky
        
        Boy, someone can give but they can’t take.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:50am
- igm
  
  Life: I thought he was still hawking his dork around Manhattan night clubs!
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:25am
- holysheet
  
  The “nanny” is there to keep Jethro out of the news. No doubt going on past history of Liabour PM partners, Cindy couldn’t take the chance of Jethro wandering off the reservation and being caught by New Yorks finest, in some dark alley in the 9th, 10th Avenue area.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:32am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And not the first time for a NZ PMs spouse either
    
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    September 25, 2018 3:55pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The Japanese delegates would not understand why a baby is at a conference. Surely the place for a baby is with its mother, at home.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:35am
  - stephieboy
    
    Or house husband or is that very un Japanese?
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:12am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy,,,there you go septic, I’ve given you an uptick so you can see how it feels.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:28am
    - VicParking
      
      Mention the name of Allah and eat it
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:31am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Description of NZ’s first boy. (gayford)
  LOW RENT
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:47am
- Harkman
  
  Funny cause I heard a rumour about the Airhead’s weasel boy yesterday, I take it he is in America on a diplomatic passport? Nudge, Nudge, ? wink, ? wink!
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:01am
- Flash
  
  Don’t waste your time being mortified. Those TV programmes have to fill the screens, and anything will do if it has a novelty factor.
  Little Red Riding Hood carrying a baby in stead of a basket goodies will do just fine.
  Come the weekend, there will be another main attraction –
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:53pm
Im Right

So Jacinda has interviews on US shows about her being a mother and how hard it is, she has voted against a Trump initiative on drugs. Well that’s basically what she set out to do…’talk about babies’, no awkward questions about crumbling coalition TICK!…’get into US fashion magazines (Vogue) TICK!…show you are ‘strong’ against Trump’ TICK!
Well there you go, she has completed her to do list she done on the plane over there. PFFFT
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September 25, 2018 8:15am
- Harkman
  
  Well we know she is pro drugs Nudge, Nudge, ? wink, ? wink!
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:03am
  - simpleton1
    
    Manufacturing drugs in state houses.
    No problem there.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:09am
- howitis
  
  Seems the media are waking up after a year that Ardern is a compulsive liar.
  Pants on fire level.
  I am in no position to say the silly little girl is a pathological liar but her clear pattern is that she is compulsive.
  She has a clear and distinct pattern of lying even when there is no need to.
  
  She is now found out.
  The media are ‘woke’ …took ’em long enough
  (*not really; it is just the MSM has selective reporting to pursue their prescribed agenda).
  Klarkenfuhrer was probably found out less than once a year in her first 8 years.
  
  For the SLG it is probably multiple times a day. Basically when she opens her gob.
  
  The multiple level are:-
  -She lies in a position of traditional authority (accidental PM) so affects the whole country
  -She lies to people close to her such that they now won’t know which way is up
  -the toyboy is a professional parasite but even he will be more ‘woke’ and wary as he won’t know what the truth ever is.
  
  The ditzy wee girlie goes on about how hard it is having a baybee and yet has the toyboy, her mother, AND a taxpayer funded nanny on trips plus her ‘working from home’ days AND she won’t even front to media when it gets ‘ a widdle bit difficult’ but hides in kindergartens and primary schools to pretend she is working.
  
  Will the rest of the country get ‘woke’ on this little spinner?
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:39am
RW Capitalist

Hypocrisy by New Zealand Prime Minister
Speech at UN promoting the necessity of the UN and cooperation and unity.
Then refuses to sign the “war on Drugs” announcement by the UN.
My opinion: Trump instigated it and she dislikes him.
Going around the TV shows promoting her baby and her motherhood, embarrassing. Can we have a new PM, can the USA keep her…PLEASE.
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September 25, 2018 8:15am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Vote:
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/09/poll-should-new-zealand-have-backed-the-usa-in-the-war-on-drugs.html
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:02am
- Jules99
  
  It would have been an easy win politically without any loss of face for NZ, which tells you its an anti-Trump move. Childish really.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:38am
- Viking2
  
  Nope. the war has failed at 40 years. Time some sense prevailed.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:57pm
secondcumming

Was chatting with the father in-law last night…..he passed a comment about, “How much he & Ma really enjoy reading Kiwiblog”. Thought most of the internet seems to have gone “PC fucking mad” these days.

As he said, “What’s all this nonsense about ‘disabled cookies’……..in my day we called them broken biscuits”
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September 25, 2018 8:17am
Inandout

Paddy and a blonde head bobber just love our Cindy, and embrace her. Tova seems to be more sensible. Mark and Duncan are realistic, Ruby Lips is hopelessly Labour.
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September 25, 2018 8:17am
- Tricati
  
  Had to turn it off before I totaled the tele – Bloody hell they were nauseating
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:24am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “Paddy and a blonde head bobber just love our Cindy”
  They all talked about how GREAT it was that Ardern was getting NZ on the international stage and representing us.
  Looks more like
  She is representing HERSELF she has hardly even used the words
  New Zealand
  But has used the words
  Me
  I
  Baby
  Motherhood
  Parenting
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:37am
Doubledimp

The penny finally dropped for me today. Jacinda is just like any other politician, looking for the next gig after politics. From all the vacuous babble about babies and feelings and so forth, I can only conclude that she wants her own talk show. Trainee Oprah is running our country, people!
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September 25, 2018 8:17am
CHFR1

If I was a loyal public servant who had voted Labour for years I would be mightly pissed at all the working groups.
If you think about it Labour have told the entire public service that they don’t think they give good advice so they have gone off and sought their own. What a slap in the face but do you think this will wake them up…not a chance.
The PSA should be screaming from the rooftops about this because it shows once and for all just how little we need all their members as 140+ groups can do the job of thousands of public servants.
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September 25, 2018 8:19am
- KevOB
  
  Communists work to their own scripts. The advisory groups are picked to provide a channel for promulgation of the desired message.
  
  How could a Departmental Head possibly advise such a self-knowledgeable Minister? That would be a situation for instant friction. The rule was new Ministers were respected and the Dept did their best to assist them on mandated policies. The Dept saw that the govt worked overall and they did not cause embarrassment to it. They would endeavour to assist the Minister to “keep out of trouble”.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:02am
wiseowl

Can anyone tell me why Hoskings and Garners have to talk so fast ?
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September 25, 2018 8:20am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Don’t know about Hosking, don’t listen.
  But Garner, diarrhea tends to flow quite quickly.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:40am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Poor punctuation, re write the sentence and put in an apostrophe.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:04am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Can anyone tell me why everyone’s name has to have an ‘s’ on the end?
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:44am
  - lifesgood
    
    Keys, Hoskings, …….and the Maoris get upset when their names are mispronounced!
    
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    September 25, 2018 8:52am
- VicParking
  
  Simple, when you talk shit you must get the taste out of your mouth as quick as possible.
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:34am
Than

Solar panels take decades to pay for themselves. That sounds about right. The last time I looked into it (admittedly 2-3 years ago now), rooftop solar panels were close to a break-even proposition. Over their lifespan the savings on power bills would repay the cost of installing the panels, but it was close. From a purely financial point of view you’d be better off putting the money into some investment and using the return towards your power bill. But if the motive was reducing your individual carbon emissions, you could do so at relatively minimal cost.

But we should not be encouraging individual solar installations. At least not with the way the electricity market works now. Those who install solar panels are being selfish, having their electricity subsidised by everyone else.

If we were talking about a standalone solar installation, completely unplugged from the national grid, then that’s fine and not selfish. In that case the required battery storage or backup generation needed to ensure a reliable supply is being paid for by the end user. But the vast majority of home solar systems installed today remain connected to the national electricity grid, and rely on this to provide electricity when the sun is not shining. And just as on the smaller scale, that consistent, reliability of supply has an associated cost. Power companies have to keep enough reserve generation available for when wind/solar is not available. The market price per kilowatt builds this in.

So this where the selfishness of solar installs becomes apparent – those who install solar panels want to pay as little as possible towards the cost of maintaining the national grid but still want the full benefit of reliability that the grid provides. That is completely unfair and unreasonable. The situation gets even worse when they expect to be able to sell electricty back into the grid. The network is not designed to accept electricity flowing in this direction. While it can handle it to some degree, it is inefficient, and power companies quite rightly pay less for such power. If too many people were to start selling into the grid it would require significant re-design and upgrading, which again would have a cost which would ultimately push up per-kilowatt prices for everybody.

Solar panels may end up being a standard feature on houses in the not too distant future. But before that can happen we will need significant changes to both the electricity market and upgrades to the grid hardware.
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September 25, 2018 8:24am
- softail 1450
  
  Than,, a cheaper alternative is a solar water heater my folks have one fitted on a new house and turn the power off on their water heater for months over summer ,extremely efficient with a large capacity storage unit ,even in the winter it keeps the water hot enough for a shower.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:44am
  - Than
    
    Sure, stuff like that makes sense. Solar water heaters (whether purely thermal or via PV cells) are a good way of capturing solar energy from the peak hours in the middle of the day and effectively storing it until needed.
    
    Just to be clear, I’m not necessarily opposed to home solar installations. But I think many people have unrealistic ideas about them and don’t understand their limitations. You shouldn’t expect to be able to sell back into the grid at all, let alone at the same price you pay per-kilowatt. And I also think if we are going to have widespread adoption of home solar panels we will need to re-structure how people pay for power, so that solar users are paying a fair share of the cost of maintaining the total network.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:09am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      PV’s are still only about a 10th the output they need to be, to be effective.
      I see a lot of advancements in battery storage
      But not much in the cells themselves.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:24am
      - DJ Ward
        
        Oh no! The “didn’t think” comment of the day.
        
        If a present 11% efficient panel was 10 times better then it would be 110% efficient. This anomaly, similar to a perpetual motion machine, would result in a runaway effect. All the energy of the local universe would quickly be absorbed resulting in a super nova. Possibly even a black hole which my guess is representative of your understanding of how PV works.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:52am
      - VicParking
        
        DJ 10 times better than something that is only 11% is not 110%. Get your maths right.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:37am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        DJ Ward then you know NOTHING of Physics or maths.
        Clue output is NOT efficiency.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:46am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        ie if you get approx. 300W per square meter
        That’s 240vdc you can draw 1.25A
        except at 300vdc after conversion to 240AC you will get 1A.
        ie 240W (AC)
        House hold Power average
        with heat pump
        washing machine
        heaters clothes dryer
        Hot water
        stove etc
        You are going to have to be able to supply peak load of around, with max draw of say 100A
        24kW (24000W) 100sqm of panels, on a sunny day, every day.
        If it rains blocks the sun for any reason, that falls.
        Oops forgot night time.
        That is why we would need batteries to compensate.
        So, if we could get 240kW in 100sqm
        This would account for drops in sunlight etc but may still need some level of battery storage over night.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:56am
      - DJ Ward
        
        @ Vic Parking. You said they are only 10th of the output they need to be.
        
        How do you get to your output 100% of what it should be.
        
        If a PV converts 11% of exposed light then how can it have 10 times the output?
        In fact if the theoretical maximum conversion of radiated energy to electrical energy is less than 100%, just as heat to electricity is limited, then 11% efficiency PV are already very efficient and much nearer to max output by area. You may double, 22% output, or triple, 33% output by area but reached nearly 100% theoretical radiated energy to electrical energy converting limits.
        
        You cannot get 10 times more effiency. The only relevant figure is cost efficiency. IE $/kWhr.
        Then you can have 10 times better output per dollar.
        
        You get your peak demand from the grid, or batteries. The hot water can be on energy saving reducing nighttime power use. Your washing machine, dryer, under floor “heat sink”, can be on timers smoothing out your peak use curve. LED lighting etc all help to reduce nighttime use.
        
        As Solar is already better than break even as an option then I look forward to it getting 10 times better.
        Batteries are already very efficient. You can only make gains in costs. But you saw a lot of advancement?
        Cells in the mass market price range have 1/3 to a 1/2 of the output of very expensive designs. You see no room for improvement but it’s where the best output gains can be made.
        
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        September 25, 2018 12:48pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s a good point, and another is that if you put the same money into utility scale PV you get about 3x the amount of PV installed. Home install costs ~$3/W, Large scale solar ~$1/W. Far better economics for the country. (This is why the Greens home solar subsidy is stupid)
  
  But eventually universal grid connections might die. Grid distribution adds about $0.15-0.2/kWh to the ~0.08/kWh wholesale cost of electricity. Whereas storing and using energy in soon-to-be-available cheap lithium batteries on a daily basis will add less than $0.1/kWh to your electricity cost. Battery cars (or maybe autonomous battery power delivery trucks) will soon be able to provide cover for off-grid houses in bad or cold weather. Going off grid is likely to be the cheapest option in sunny climes in 10-20 years.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:04am
- KevOB
  
  See Adelaide Aus. for an example of what you describe. Solar power has messed up supply completely.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:06am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Seems to me, the best places for solar etc
  Are new farm installations, where the cost of installation is similar to the installation on the national grid.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:26am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Yeah, large scale install on land where there is existing large grid connection (no need to upgrade grid) is cheapest. Farms with big electricity usage are ideal.
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:02am
- JIV
  
  NZ is too far south for solar panels to make sense. All the power is made at an inconvenient time as well. Most households need electricity first thing in the morning and in the evening after work. Solar panels are most effective when the house is empty.
  
  The only reason to get solar panels is to show off to the world how virtuous you are. Its like parking a Tesla in the driveway.
  
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  September 25, 2018 10:06am
- DJ Ward
  
  A mistake about your PV argument in NZ is the need for battery storage.
  We have base load generation with geothermal and some constant running hydro. Then we have variable input wind operating in unison with stored energy hydro. Any shortfall peak demand is met by Huntly.
  Any PV use is offset by storing energy in Hydro dams. In fact storing water increases the dams head hight improving efficiency of the system.
  Your argument works better in nations without the ability to store energy. Ie no hydro dams.
  Also as mentioned by others, battery storage will shift towards the family cars etc. Daytime excess can be stored in mums car, dumped into a heat sink, or even used for pumping creek water back up to dams.
  We are only limited by physics and our imaginations. The physics and viability of PV are fine. We have a problem with ideas to improve its use.
  Notice how many isolated devices like lights, signs, electric fence units have gone 100% PV.
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:16am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    This is all OK except it still relies on transmission.
    Transmission losses are the biggest problem and limitation to all forms of small scale generation.
    So the solution:
    Do away with transmission.
    Generate at the user end, ie at the house/factory/hospital/ school etc.
    Here solar works, IF you can generate enough.
    At the moment we can’t.
    Again 10x output at each “household” etc
    The excess is bled of to things like street lamps and via the current grid.
    This spreads the generation across the whole network.
    Power to the people…literally.
    
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    September 25, 2018 12:51pm
  - Than
    
    I’m very dubious batteries will be part of our home energy future. Batteries just aren’t a good technology, and there’s not much reason to expect significant improvements.
    
    First of all there’s the cost. Solar panels are economically marginal enough to begin with. If you have to add battery storage as well they just aren’t competitive. But much more important to my mind is a point that doesn’t get discussed enough about batteries – safety.
    
    Batteries are essentially chunks of highly reactive (and therefore pretty much always flammable and toxic) chemicals. There are at least two high-profile instances of modern lithium batteries overheating and spontaneously catching on fire. This happened to some battery banks in early production 787 airliners, and some batteries from the Galaxy Note 7. Nobody can realistically guarantee that this couldn’t occur with a household battery bank. The consequences of a fire in one of these would be life-threatening. A house could burn down very quickly, with serious risk of people not being able to get out in time. Even with safe battery designs, that’s still a big pile of accelerant in the middle of the house, so if a fire from some other source reaches the batteries that’s again the house being destroyed in minutes and serious risk to life. Just not worth it.
    
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    September 25, 2018 1:46pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Tesla is anticipating batteries down to $100/kWh in next year. Most houses would only need about 10kWh to get through a night.
      
      In 20 years there will be vast quantities of extremely cheap second hand batteries coming onto the market from end-of-life or wrecked electric cars that still have a lot of life left in them. It will probably only cost $1-2000 to have enough batteries to get you through 2-3 days. At which point being off grid is probably a lot cheaper than being on-grid.
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:38pm
      - Than
        
        Ok. But even assuming this solves the cost issue, it doesn’t even start to address the safety question. And I’ve got to say, being told these are batteries from end-of-life or wrecked electric cars doesn’t make me feel better about this point.
        
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        September 25, 2018 3:50pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      LiPo’s are the most volatile. They can swell with age, bursting the case, leading to oxidisation and fire. If you have any of these lying around (drones, more recent broken phones) then the very best storage solution is in a hole .. about a 50cm deep and well covered with earth/clay/sand. Don’t keep them in a cupboard, or on a shelf in the garage!
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:47pm
softail 1450

Have a look at Maggies link at 8.04 ,what a greasy slimey POS Handley is ,maybe this has actually worked out better for NZ in the long run we just dont need anymore sychophantic yes men in this government, it’s dripping with them already.
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September 25, 2018 8:25am
Maggy Wassilieff

Chinese Proverb
上梁不正下梁歪

If the top beam is crooked, all the other beams will not be straight.
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September 25, 2018 8:38am
- secondcumming
  
  My favorite is an old Confucius Proverb…..
  
  ‘The difference between pink and purple, is your grip’
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:53am
  - noskire
    
    Another Confucius Proverb:
    
    “Man who walk sideways with erection through airport door is going to Bangkok.”
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:19am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Man who have sex on hill
      Not on the level.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:22am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    An old proverb I told to my girls when I wanted to impress up them the importance of “making things happen for themselves” is the one:
    
    “Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in.”
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:54am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Lols. Conversely … man standing on hill nearby Beehive with mouth open will wait short time for turkeys to drop in.
      
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      September 25, 2018 10:59am
VicParking

MSM pushing Cindy appearing on the Today Show.
4 million watch, sorry ony 2,7 million and 50% of those were TV’s being showen in public or being watched by Pre-Schooler’s Nanny’s.
Lets put it in persective:
Big Bang = 7 million
Young Sheldon = 6 million
Evan Big Brother got 5.7 Million
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September 25, 2018 8:38am
- DigNap15
  
  The population of the USA is over 300 million!
  It shows how “mainstream tv” has fallen!
  
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  September 25, 2018 2:46pm
Left Right and Centre

Question: Are you are child ? No ?
Then why do advertisers use nothing but infantile baby talk ?

blah blah blah blah and win a ‘prezzy card’.
Aaaaaah – a cutey-wooty sweety-weety widdle prezzy-wezzy card – why, how wovery. Thank you wank you.
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September 25, 2018 8:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Left Right and Centre,
  
  what else do you need to rant and rave and grunt about?
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:14am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Sure – really mental Australian or New Zealand accents in adverts. I caught one that sounded like . . .
    
    Naaaah weeeth twaaaaantay-fihoive parr cee-int liiiiiis ***shooooooe-garrrrrrrrr***.
    
    Turn the volume down on that way OTT grating vowel bending twang mate – yeek, what the hell was that insanity ??
    
    And yeah – I saw my spelling mistake above – ‘are’ should be ‘a’. Bugger.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:55am
- Jules99
  
  Is it something we’ve picked up from Aussie?
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:43am
Garbageman

Who said nothing of interest happens here in Invers
Should she be billed for this i wonder ?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/107333084/firefighters-and-police-free-invercargill-cat-from-tree
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September 25, 2018 8:43am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Now, if the cat came from Dunedin….that would be news.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:17am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Cat: LEAVE me alone, I came up here to get away from idiots like you.
  Later
  Cat: You know, as soon as you put me down, I’m going straight back up my favourite tree.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:19am
secondcumming

NOT TO BE MISSED……

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September 25, 2018 8:47am
- kevn
  
  @sc…. and how many of these folk will come to NZ as refugees?
  Save us… from this coalition clown car.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:02am
- stephieboy
  
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  WATCH: The far right’s myth of South African ‘white genocide’
  2018-09-07 14:21
  
  “The far right in the US, Canada and Europe think there’s a widespread campaign of race-based killing of white farmers and land seizures, and even US President Donald Trump has tweeted about it….’
  
  https://www.news24.com/Analysis/watch-the-far-rights-myth-of-south-african-white-genocide-20180907
  
  FIXED!
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:20am
  - secondcumming
    
    Get back to bed stephieboy……..
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkUjeqhWwAEJhpu.jpg
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:38am
  - VicParking
    
    Mention the name of Allah and eat it
    
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    September 25, 2018 11:42am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Have you been fixed?
    
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    September 25, 2018 2:50pm
Nukuleka

Wondering if any future President of the USA will be able to get his nominee appointed to the Supreme Court. All that has to happen from now on is that the opposition party produces someone to claim that the nominee touched them, if a woman they bared their boobs or a man they flashed their dick, 35 years ago- no corroboration or witnesses needed. Just an assertion will do the trick. If the Dems get away with using this ploy to derail Kavanaugh then the Republicans would be fools not to employ the same tactics in the future when the boot is on the other foot.
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September 25, 2018 8:51am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It will just be black women only – no chance of any allegation of sex crimes or racist statements sticking.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:07am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Why not? Women commit sexual abuse too. I was certainly sexually harassed by a transsexual who considered herself a woman. The boot will be on the other foot.
    
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    September 25, 2018 2:49pm
    - softail 1450
      
      C L, your boot should have been against its head,at least 3 times…
      
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      September 25, 2018 4:27pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        We were friends for a while and I was trying to maintain a friendship while making it clear that there was no attraction. She misunderstood that and I had to get very firm and end the friendship. There was no need for violence, but definitely for very firm words.
        
        There is often a grey area in which many of people’s bad sexual experiences happen: drugs, alcohol, friendship, former sexual relationships, a friendly hug being misunderstood etc. (I’m not saying all those elements were there in my case).
        
        There is a huge grey zone, far from being raped by a stranger and very difficult to prove, all to do with consent and exactly what people, men or women, are actually consenting to or what they might later regret.
        
        I’m just putting this out there because women and transsexuals need to understand that they too will be accused of sexual misconduct in some situations.
        
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        September 25, 2018 5:28pm
- MCos
  
  Conversely, if these allegations are true, and I believe the first one most certainly is, and the guy’s confirmation scraps through, future aspirants to that office know that that sort of behaviour won’t be held against them down the track.
  Attempting rape is no minor thing.
  
  I see Kavanaugh & his wife have recorded an interview to be screened on Fox. Chap must really want this job.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:41am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Zero evidence to even say “if these allegations are true”
    Hope your job is judged under the same pretext
    Of unfounded ALLEGATIONS”
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:55am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    His reputation is in tatters and his career is likely over if he doesn’t get the job. Seems to be enough secondary corroboration of other (gross, but not aggressive) incidents to make it look likely something might have happened.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:57am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Yet, MCos, it would seem extremely likely that none of these allegations are true. They are instead a purely exceptionally nasty, dishonest, political hit job.
    
    Accuser #1 (Ford) quotes 4 witnesses, and ALL of them have given sworn statements (so on oath) of no knowledge of the incident at all. That includes a womenwho is said to be Ford’s best friend. The only statement not on oath – Ford’s. Plus, Ford claims to be scared of flying and unable to get to Washington easily to give testimony (on oath), yet travelled to Bermuda in July for a holiday flying (of course) both ways apparently quite happily. She’s been paid/convinced to make this vicious smear.
    
    Allegation #2 involves Kavanaugh supposedly exposing himself to someone at a party. A total of 6 witnesses are referenced, and once again all the direct witnesses refute the claim, most saying that BK wasn’t even at that event. One possible supporting witness says she remembers hearing about it afterwards.
    
    Allegation #3 from Michael Avenatti, claiming that BK and another friend organized women to be gang raped and abused. No witnesses or evidence offered but story widely reported.
    
    This is a textbook political smear organized by the Democrats who met some months ago to plan a campaign to block Kavanaugh’s confirmation by “any means possible”. This is the result, a wholly cynical disgusting and mercenary series of allegations of sexual abuse that are in themselves abusive.
    
    The Democrats have gone beyond disgusting. I would support a full FBI investigation into how these allegations were made and paid for, with indictments for perversion of justice for the likes of Ford, Feinstein, and the various paid shills in the media who are complicit in the smears.
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:00am
    - MCos
      
      Here’s an article that fills in a few holes in your comment
      https://www.vox.com/2018/9/22/17886814/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-deborah-ramirez
      
      What it doesn’t mention is the hamfisted mistaken identity theory put forward by Ed Whelan that his friend Kavanaugh may have known about beforehand.
      
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      September 25, 2018 10:34am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        1 I read it
        2. Your taking VOX’s word …really?
        3. Nothing but innuendo and hear say in this.
        4. ALL accusations have been refuted by the very witness’ that were supposed to support them.
        
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        September 25, 2018 10:53am
      - Ed Snack
        
        RW has it right, Vox is part of the paid smear media who are hyping this for what it is worth. There is zero evidence of Ford’s claim except her recollection from some close to 40 years later, and she cannot recall exactly where or when.
        
        If one was to plan a derailment of a SCOTUS nomination based on unsubstantiated smears, what exactly would one do differently than this, other than line up some additional paid corroboration ? Delay the revelation until the very end of the confirmation process to make checking only possible by suspending the process which is part of the intention, to attempt to make ridiculous conditions, and make the allegation as unspecific as possible so strict fact checking is impossible. Checks all the boxes on a setup. Ford is simply a tool, and if she actually turns up to testify under oath (which I doubt) she will quite probably regret having been part of this charade.
        
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        September 25, 2018 11:56am
      - Inandout
        
        Name Vox, read Soros.
        
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        September 25, 2018 12:05pm
    - Nermal
      
      Have they brought up the fact that Kavanaugh ran Auschwitz yet?
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:45am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        and the rest of the bodies are buried on the dark side of the moon.
        Pink Floyd told me.
        
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        September 25, 2018 12:55pm
- alwyn
  
  The Republicans used a far easier method for the last year of Obama’s term. He nominated a perfectly acceptable, and well qualified, nominee. So the Republican Majority Leader in the Senate simply refused to hold any hearings at all on the nomination and the Supreme Court was left with only 8 members for the whole final year. They were betting on a Republican winning the Presidential rate in 2016.
  Instead the got Trump, but for their purposes it was near enough.
  It is the Democrats who are employing the same tactics. It is not them who actually started it this time.
  Bloody disgraceful the lot of them.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:48am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Argue the point- which is unsubstantiated accusations of sexual misconduct. Don’t introduce the LOOK THERE’S A SQUIRREL diversionary tactic.
    
    Pitiful.
    
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    September 25, 2018 11:50am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Sort of
    The Dems established the precedent that Supreme Court Justices shouldn’t be put up in a General Election year.
    This is not one of those years.
    The GOP – at considerable risk- stuck to that.
    Garland is a good jurist but is soft on the Second Amendment.
    As for Kavanaugh, the Dems are probably unnecessarily hyping up concern about Roe v Wade as he has already signalled it’s well established Law.
    
    The allegations all look unsupported and as Ed points out, they all fall apart with no corroboration.
    In fact, named witnesses refute it completely.
    You can’t investigate something where there’s no date or place confirmed either.
    It’s a nonsense.
    Still some gullible morons will still want to believe they are true.
    
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    September 25, 2018 11:55am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “Still some gullible morons will still want to believe they are true.”
      No, I don’t believe, that they believe a word of it.
      This just an underhanded tactic to get at Trump and win a few votes at the midterms.
      If the Dems were that confident of the mid terms, they wouldn’t be doing this.
      
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      September 25, 2018 12:58pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Gallup Poll just out shows the GOP ahead by 1 point.
        First time since 2007.
        When Obama, in his first term, lost 60 seats in Congress his nett negative approval was -19.
        Yesterday Trumps was -6
        Big difference.
        The GOP have improved their ratings (to varying degrees) across all groups.
        Significantly Blacks, Hispanics and Men
        However both sides are very motivated.
        But you’re right, the Dems are going absolutely crazy.
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red seems like a Disney fantasy of yours. Citations, in future, please !
        
        Otherwise, we can safely assume its all made up.
        
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        September 25, 2018 2:42pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
        Kiwiblogs Dumbest Commentator doesn’t know how to look up Gallups web site
        https://news.gallup.com/poll/242906/republican-party-favorability-highest-seven-years.aspx?g_source=link_NEWSV9&g_medium=LEAD&g_campaign=item_&g_content=Republican%2520Party%2520Favorability%2520Highest%2520in%2520Seven%2520Years
        
        And you’re the biggest liar on here eh PERV #1
        
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        September 25, 2018 3:24pm
- Nermal
  
  No problem. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:43am
- Philview
  
  I read some of the testimony. It sounded like he was laying on top of the lady fully clothed before another guy jumped on top of them both. This sounded like the typical behaviour at a Kiwi student party on any Saturday night. We don’t know the truth and upsetting for the lady but it didn’t seem something that would lead to a lifetime of counselling as suggested in the testimony.
  
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  September 25, 2018 2:39pm
- Jules99
  
  Just curious that there are no recent photos of her. Sure, people are entitled to their privacy, but if that was the case, would she really come forward? Something doesn’t smell right about this. All will be revealed I guess when she shows up to testify – or doesn’t. The Dems have form on this, of course.
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:13pm
dave_c_

Holy crap !!! Just rang the Spark help, to change an aspect of one of my phones. Current WAIT TIME greater than 1 hour, and NO option to nominate a call back time. Perhaps it’s time to change providers. What normal business would survive, treating their customers in this manner.
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September 25, 2018 9:03am
- KevOB
  
  It was over two hours recently for me to report an internet scam being conducted in Spark’s name.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:09am
- Jules99
  
  Hope this gets to you but I’ve been in moderation for a day, so fingers crossed. Try the chat function on their website. I’ve found it much quicker. They have home workers operating it.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:46am
- mandk
  
  The first time I came across the nominated call back time option, it was begin offered by the IRD. And they use the system pretty well.
  
  In my book, any business that does not offer its customers this option deserves to fail.
  
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  September 25, 2018 10:14am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, it is pretty handy.
    
    It is good to see some innovations that look pretty customer focused from IRD, especially since they don’t exactly need to compete for business.
    
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    September 25, 2018 10:36am
Swifty

Let’s make no mistake about Woods and Ardern regarding the Taranaki/oil and gas news today.

If, as Woods claims, nobody can be sure of the scale of economic losses – then they are admitting that they have made their decision oblivious to the consequences.

It is abundantly clear now that they have closed down an entire industry with no clue as to how this will all pan out – other than what we already know; that we’ll be buying off shore what we used to produce ourselves and that this measure from Labour won’t reduce demand one iota.

I never thought I’d see the day that we would be led by such children.
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September 25, 2018 9:27am
- Manolo
  
  No, those two are not children, they are economic terrorists.
  
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  September 25, 2018 2:20pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: Westpac plans to ‘dump’ risky property investors as rates rise and returns fall | afr.com

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/09/links-25-september-2018/#comment-3191181

… via Interest Co NZ 90@9 …

Westpac plans to ‘dump’ risky property investors as rates rise and returns fall | afr.com
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https://www.afr.com/personal-finance/westpac-plans-to-dump-risky-property-investors-as-rates-rise-and-returns-fall-20180924-h15s1a

Westpac Group, the nation’s second largest lender, is giving risky property investors less than a month to find another lender amid growing concerns about the impact of rising rates, falling values and oversupply.

The bank is sending a single-page letter to investors warning it can “no longer support our commercial relationship with you”, adding it will work with the borrower to help them find a new lender.

Victor Kumar, a director of Right Property Group, a buyers’ agency, who has seen the letter sent to property investors, said: “This is of concern because they have used the banking system to get these loans.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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… California and Texas lending characteristics a decade ago …

Housing Bubbles: Jumbo Mortgages = Jumbo Problems | Hugh Pavletich | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1003/S00019.htm
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… Central Bank of Ireland research found high multiple lending was the greatest problem … and capped mortgage lending at 3.5 times annual household incomes …

Mortgage Measures | Central Bank of Ireland
… access earlier research …

https://www.centralbank.ie/financial-system/financial-stability/macro-prudential-policy/mortgage-measures
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September 25, 2018 9:33am
- KevOB
  
  The GFC coming via Westpac to a branch near you. (Other lenders are likely to want to avoid the increased risks too.)
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:43am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  “Westpac is reported to have sent a one-page letter to all its ‘risky property investors’ giving them one month to find another lender amid growing concerns about the impact of rising rates, falling values and oversupply. You can do that when almost all your lending is on variable rate terms.”
  
  https://www.afr.com/personal-finance/westpac-plans-to-dump-risky-property-investors-as-rates-rise-and-returns-fall-20180924-h15s1a
  
  The shit is about to hit the fan in Australia, and perhaps will have flow on effect to NZ.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:49am
KevOB

this measure from Labour won’t reduce demand one iota.

But it will impact our balance of payments, exchange rate, manufacturing costs, export receipts, savings and investment, domestic costs, consumer and wholesale prices indexes, benefit payments, pension payments, wage-price demands, employment, govt budgets…

This is a crime against the nation.
There is no mandate for this.
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September 25, 2018 9:35am
GoVege

Was surfing the web on my phone last night trying to get off to sleep and came across heaps of videos of young women and little girls being trafficked and murdered in the Middle East and central America.
Even teenaged Miss Honduras was murdered along with her sister.
Why do we have first world women screeching every time they get groped or almost groped yet the rape, torture and murder of thousands of girls in 3rd world nations hardly gets a mention??
Why doesn’t Jane Fonda draw attention to this?
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September 25, 2018 10:13am
- GoVege
  
  Interesting how uncivilized humans all seem to behave much the same.
  A mother was interviewed explaining how the local gangs are eyeing her 11 year old daughter to pimp out, and how she has to take care to protect her.
  Here in Godzone, gangs also prey on little girls of solo mums.
  The difference is these women receive generous benefits and have plenty of resources 3rd world mothers don’t have, but still allow their kids to be pimped.
  Victims of colonization I guess….
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:15am
- kowtow
  
  Al Jazeera has run a story about modern child slavery /sex slaves in Nigeria.
  
  The irony is that this part of west Africa is where so many of the new world slaves were taken from.
  
  I haven’t seen anyone take up this story and run with it .
  
  So the issue is not that blacks are oppressed , or that wimmin are subjugated .
  
  The issue is that the left activists ( and here I include the feminists) are not interested in the poor , the dispossesed, the black , the female, etc
  
  All they are interested in is attacking the west , white males , capitalism , hegemony or whatever other “right wing” thing they can get their hands on.
  
  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/nigerias-young-daughters-sold-money-wives-180921153424671.html
  
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  September 25, 2018 12:06pm
  - GoVege
    
    Thanks kowtow.
    You notice how the community leader tried to claim this revolting practice no longer takes place.
    Yeah right…like honour killings no longer take place, though they kept getting caught on cctv on occasion strangely enough…
    
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    September 25, 2018 12:56pm
    - GoVege
      
      And rich, white Harvey Weinstein is the world’s most hated man for chasing starlets around hotel rooms, whereas nobody mentions the countries where countless young girls and women are raped, tortured, mutilated and murdered with impunity every day.
      
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      September 25, 2018 1:06pm
      - GoVege
        
        I thought only head-hunting tribesmen from New Guinea chopped off their wives’ legs to punish them for disobedience.
        Turns out Honduran husbands do it too.
        There’s a beautiful young mother of 5 there whose husband chopped off her feet.
        Miraculously, he was jailed and she was supplied with prosthetic feet.
        Saves the time and trouble of foot-binding I suppose….
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:15pm
Longknives

Oh Christ.
Ardern is finished doing all her Jesus Chris poses and is now waving her baby round at the UN (Desperately searching for any available camera.)
This has got to be tantamount to child abuse..

Did any other people take their kids along?
What possible reason could the poor kid have for being there???
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September 25, 2018 10:14am
- GoVege
  
  Well to give the devil it’s due, it IS a very young baby and if exclusively breast-fed, would need to be close to mummy for its frequent feeds.
  The problem of combining new motherhood with prime ministership. 🙂
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:07am
  - Longknives
    
    Are you seriously suggesting that Ardern didn’t take the kid along as a ‘Look at Me’ Publicity Stunt??
    
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    September 25, 2018 11:11am
    - GoVege
      
      LK: you can’t separate babies from their mums and milk supply without causing problems.
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:24am
      - Longknives
        
        GoVege-
        Your argument would be valid EXCEPT Ardern only recently disappeared to Nauru for the day without her baby.
        So clearly the baby doesn’t need to go everywhere with her…
        
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        September 25, 2018 12:37pm
    - GoVege
      
      Bloody stupid article from Deborah H-C this week re the wagging students.
      Kids need to finish their basic education before they get into silly philosophising.
      
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      September 25, 2018 11:27am
    - Woz
      
      Of course she fucking did.
      
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      September 25, 2018 7:28pm
  - cmm
    
    ” The problem of combining new motherhood with prime ministership.”
    
    Yup, that’s why you don’t try do them at the same time if you are:
    1) a responsible PM
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    2) a responsible parent.
    
    What next? Mums on the battlefield? Shoosh with those mortars, I’ve just put the bub to sleep!
    
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    September 25, 2018 12:19pm
    - GoVege
      
      I don’t disagree with that, cmm.
      A newborn deserves total commitment.
      As for the trip to Nauru…depends how long mum and baby will be separated.
      I doubt if many people would have voted for a pregnant PM if they had known.
      
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      September 25, 2018 12:59pm
      - cmm
        
        Yet another one of her lies…
        
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        September 25, 2018 1:06pm
    - Jules99
      
      Lobbing a few dirty nappies might send the enemy home. LOL
      
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      September 25, 2018 4:16pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    It’s 3 months old and Fonterra make baby formula.
    She could promote NZ businesses instead of herself. Cost the taxpayer a bucketload less.
    
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    September 25, 2018 4:09pm
Rich Prick

Cindy dear, put the baby away.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107341555/jacinda-arderns-baby-watches-historic-un-session-from-mums-lap
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September 25, 2018 10:43am
- Longknives
  
  ‘Look at ME everybody!’
  ‘I’ve got a little wee Baaabeey!!’
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:03am
- Inandout
  
  Our trouser girl is getting more and more like Hulun, although it is said Clarke wears the pants in their house.
  
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  September 25, 2018 12:02pm
- dave_c_
  
  Better still, be a stay at home mum. Give the child a chance at some sort of normal life. Put away your ambitions ‘for the sake of the child’ you selfish git.
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:11pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She can’t become a stay-at-home Ma, coz then the money-tree will fall over.
    She could drop down to just being a MP… not too taxing in her electorate.
    
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    September 25, 2018 1:37pm
Hugh Pavletich

… An outstanding Wall Street Journal article …

Struggling U.S. Farmers Worry About a Resurgent Russia – WSJ
… google search title if blocked …

https://www.wsj.com/articles/grain-is-our-oil-russia-is-besting-the-u-s-as-a-wheat-powerhouse-1537719747

Russian wheat exports are booming despite a crushing price slump, as the country’s farmers finally emerge from decades of neglect

OTRADNAYA, Russia—Vladimir Mishurov transformed the remnants of the “Lenin’s Path” collective farm in this village into a profitable business. He also helped make Russia the world’s largest wheat exporter for the first time since the last years of the czars.

Over the past decade or so, Mr. Mishurov replaced his aging Russian equipment with a dozen high-tech machines from John Deere and other makers, and started using powerful new fertilizers and seeds. He bought and rented more acres from neighbors and family, eventually reaching about 3,600, taking advantage of Russia’s overall low prices for land. … read more via hyperlink above …
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September 25, 2018 10:49am
- All_on_Red
  
  John Deere has an assembly and manufacturing plant in Russia
  https://www.reuters.com/article/deere-russia/john-deere-opens-russian-plant-sees-potential-idUSLDE63P1V820100427
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:24am
- cmm
  
  Not surprising.
  
  Americans farmers have got fat and lazy on too much subsidies.
  
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  September 25, 2018 11:30am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, which Trump is continuing to make ” fat and lazy”
    
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    September 25, 2018 2:43pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy “fat and lazy” just like septicboy prefers his livestock.
      
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      September 25, 2018 4:37pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    An Japanese farmers have grown skinny and old on the same.
    Still, how else is Tokyo going to keep its aging, dying, rural villages alive? (Or indeed, should it?)
    
    It’s complex. Do you throw your rural communities under the bus so that the city folk can buy cheaper rice, beef or vegetables? (Not better or safer, mind you, just cheaper.)
    
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    September 25, 2018 2:49pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      The sensible option is to convert your overpopulated and subsidised agricultural land to efficient large holdings that can be farmed by 5-10% as many people using large machines without subsidies.
      
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      September 25, 2018 3:44pm
      - Jack5
        
        UrbanNeocolonialist, what you are saying about bigger holdings applies to China, and it’s happening as the villagers head for the factories in the big cities.
        
        Chinese agricultural output (already ahead of NZ in dairy) is going to increase markedly.
        
        I’m not sure that applies to Japan. Different topography, and large mountainous tracts suitable only for forestry. The slips of land around the municipal areas are small and often irregular.
        
        Rich Japan can afford to subsidise its farmers, a tiny proportion of the population.
        
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        September 25, 2018 9:37pm
Doubledimp

Cindy says on US “Today Show” that she has a greater appreciation for solo parents since giving birth; that tells me Clarke is doing “rack-all” to help (stay-at-home dad, my arse!)
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September 25, 2018 12:06pm
- cmm
  
  USA “Today Show” is morning TV. Guess what? Most of the losers watching this are single mum demographics so a warm fuzzy for her audience.
  
  I wonder if Clarkes’s out back fixing the USA Today Show deck?
  
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  September 25, 2018 12:43pm
  - dave_c_
    
    Nah, He’ll be cowering in the corner, lamenting the life choices that got him into this sordid situation.
    
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    September 25, 2018 1:08pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107328867/woman-makes-up-rape-story-wastes-significant-hours-of-police-time

Good to see one of these actually going to trial. I hope she gets the book thrown at her.

She tried to wreck some bloke’s life. She has helped to dilute the believability of genuine rape victims.
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September 25, 2018 12:16pm
- GoVege
  
  This self-centred narcissist typifies the kind of behaviour that keeps women down all over the world.
  I’m sure she couldn’t care less that her deviousness makes it harder for genuine rape victims to be taken seriously.
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:10pm
- Longknives
  
  I see she gets Permanent Name Suppression.
  Yet many of the males falsely accused of Rape and acquitted by the Courts don’t..
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:37pm
- Tall Man
  
  ACC make a substantial payment to the victim.
  
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  September 25, 2018 5:58pm
RF

Interesting comments by Sober this morning that indicates the star dust is wearing off.

He mentioned that Arderns announcement of an injection of $300,000.00 into the islands for rising sea levels etc was made in such a manner that delegates thought it was an additional payment. This was greeted with applause.

Not true as she was just re-announcing the original cash injection. This is just another example of the little minx being casual with the truth.

This will finish up in an almighty mess as to be a good liar you have to have a good memory…..

Popcorn time.
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September 25, 2018 12:59pm
- KevOB
  
  The Islands don’t need anything for sea level change–investigation by the Uni Auckland show them to be stable. or rising. Their land masses have been accreting.
  Parrot fish break coral down to give the sand: the locals eat the parrot fish.
  
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  September 25, 2018 3:36pm
Nookin

I wonder if this may be one of the reasons why there are so many unresolved actions for repair/replacement damages in the Christchurch area?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/107278028/court-warns-expert-witnesses-after-refugees-failed-lawsuit
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September 25, 2018 1:16pm
krazykiwi

QS’s 2019 University Rankings are out.

↓ Auckland.    Drops 3.7% from 82 to 85
↓ Massey.        Drops 5.1% from 316 to 332
↓ Victoria.       Drops 0.9% from 219 to 221
↓ Canterbury. Drops 7.9% from 214 to 231
↓ Otago.           Drops 15.9% from 151 to 175
↑ Waikato.      Jumps 6.2% from 292 to 274
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September 25, 2018 1:24pm
- cmm
  
  Waikato! Where the priNZess comes from!
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:49pm
- rangitoto
  
  Good to see Manukau Institute of Technology taking out the top spot.. Oh whoops sorry it’s Massachusetts not Manukau. Easy to confuse the two.
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:25pm
Chuck Bird

Does anyone think 3 years 6 months is adequate for killing someone? I assume Andrew Little does not read KB.

Teen high on synthetic cannabis jailed for Christchurch manslaughter of Pierclaudio Raviola

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=12131310
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September 25, 2018 1:25pm
- Inandout
  
  Cindy’s war on NZ druggies will take him out of prison and cuddle him, ’cause he was misunderstood.
  
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  September 25, 2018 1:44pm
- cmm
  
  Get your facts straight.
  
  It was really colonialism that did the killing.
  
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  September 25, 2018 2:27pm
- starboard
  
  The victim had terminal cancer as well. Life is cheap in Nil Ziland.
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:54pm
Rodney Randall

Just read that article.
Makes my blood boil

Judge needs to removed from the bench. 100% CORRUPT BASTARD.

If a loved one was bashed to death I fear what lengths I would go to to exact revenge.

He was a gentle, friendly bus driver that met a horrific death.
Had a few lively chats with him few years ago.

The offender should be put into solitary. Chuck the Synthetics in the cell too.
Enjoy that trip in perpetuity MOFO.
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September 25, 2018 1:35pm
gorse

Thought I might watch Question Time. I couldn’t stand listening to Peters and Robertson arrogantly saying what a wonderful job they were doing. Gave up and am watching a movie instead
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September 25, 2018 2:13pm
- softail 1450
  
  gorse ,even shortland street would be better than watching those two ,both of them getting fatter by the day especially Robertson….
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:42pm
  - lifesgood
    
    I’m sorry about commenting on his appearance but I’m going to, Robertson has a big fat idiotic face. he always looks bewildered. He looks like the kid that got bullied at school, probably was come to think of it.
    
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    September 25, 2018 6:13pm
Manolo

Will Trump get his man?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-defends-kavanaugh-am-him-way-131353337.html
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September 25, 2018 2:16pm
rangitoto

The poor of the country wish to thank Taxinda Taxadern for this wonderful benefit:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/107344826/days-out-from-tax-increase-petrol-prices-hit-fresh-record-high
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September 25, 2018 2:26pm
- Inandout
  
  And it will filter down to the junk food, what a shame.
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  rangitoto, time to upgrade and go hybrid ( Prius) or fully electric ( Leaf ).
  
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  September 25, 2018 7:30pm
graham

Hell’s bells.

“Māori caucus back Meka Whaitiri despite not seeing investigation report”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107362216/mori-caucus-back-meka-whaitiri-despite-not-seeing-investigation-report

Labour’s Māori caucus are backing axed colleague Meka Whaitiri over bullying claims without seeing an investigation report, or speaking to the staffer involved.

Employment Minister Willie Jackson, and co-chair, said: “I know of some of the points but I haven’t read the report, no … I have access to Meka who breaks it all down for me.”

Pressed on how he could be confident of the facts, with only one side of the story, he said: “Because I talk with Meka all the time and I have confidence in her and she’s explained the situation in terms of what’s happened.
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September 25, 2018 3:22pm
- ROJ
  
  Bet that argument wouldn’t hold up in Employment Court.
  
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  September 25, 2018 3:26pm
- MrTips
  
  Ah, c’mon now, Willies theme song is this: https://youtu.be/UHEfSzUbh3s
  
  sing with him now!
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:23pm
- DigNap15
  
  Maoris always back Maoris even if they have done wrong.
  Its in their blood.
  
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  September 25, 2018 4:47pm
- Gravelroad
  
  The bit I liked best was Jackson &Co going on and on about how the Māori caucus/Labour Party, guided by the superb leadership of our Prime Minister, believed in:
  being kind
  respectful
  forgiving of people who make mistakes
  believing in them
  not jumping on the blame bandwagons
  considering and showing sympathy for what their families were going through etc etc.
  Wasn’t it the Labour Party and the media parties that hounded out Todd Barclay?
  Was that kind?
  
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  September 25, 2018 5:00pm
- starboard
  
  willie jackson lol…s/nigger
  
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  September 25, 2018 8:56pm
DigNap15

Will tomorrows GD be the 24th or 26B?
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September 25, 2018 4:46pm
Piniwi

Perhaps MrTips followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCBeCeKv4Y8
More repetitive with less words and an issue stored closer to their hearts.
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September 25, 2018 4:46pm
DigNap15

If I could fit into Grant Robertson’s office, I’d like to be a fly to see what his reaction is to the ANZ business confidence report is.
That is if it goes down (which I am hoping it does)
Ardern of course is a way on a pr trip for herself.
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September 25, 2018 4:49pm
DigNap15

82 year old beaten and robbed

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12131504

Where they boys or girls?
New Zealanders or tourists?
Working or students?
Blue eyes or brown?
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September 25, 2018 4:57pm
- DigNap15
  
  Actually the police are being a bit discriminatory here.
  By saying they were youths, they are besmirching all youths.
  They should just say the robbers were 2 people.
  Surely the police should be admonished and taken to some court for discrimination
  
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  September 25, 2018 5:22pm
- cmm
  
  Colonialism is terrible!
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:25pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Here is the urban dictionary for “youths”:
  
  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=youths
  
  “Youths”: Media codeword for criminal non-white immigrants
  
  TV: “Youths set fire 100 cars in Paris, France on the New Years eve.”
  
  Viewer: “Damn! What’s wrong with those Frenchmen?”
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:39pm
softail 1450

Queen Jacinda must know she’s in trouble when TV1&TV3 simultaneously give her a slapping on tonight’s news,it must be galling for her while she’s trying to maintain her superstar look in New York.
Jacinda misslead parliament and she cant deny it although she is trying to.Gayford will have his work cut out for him putting things right on Twitter,,,,,,,,,,,
Baby Neeve doesn’t care about it at all ,LOL.
Only stupid Kiwis would believe that most of the folk at the UN wouldn’t be thinking. “what the fuck is that stupid woman bringing that brat in here for apart from grandstanding ”
Its a bloody embarrassing joke.
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September 25, 2018 6:19pm
- cmm
  
  What does she care? We have paid her trip for her UN job interview.
  
  We are a wee annoying stepping stone on her way to her UN gig.
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:24pm
  - rangitoto
    
    They probably need a janitor or two in a building that size.
    
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    September 25, 2018 9:00pm
- KevOB
  
  On TV1 tonight barely suppressed a laughing contempt for Jacinda.
  
  I suspect the media are sensing copy. They’ve enjoyed taking positions against govts to see what happens–PR activists.
  
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  September 25, 2018 9:54pm
nasska

And in the latest Comedy from the Court:

….”[Craig] sent her a series of letters, cards and poems. He gave her gifts of jewellery and sought out her company in irregular and inappropriate ways,”…..

BUT

….”We shared similar interests and values, including a Christian faith”…..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107318016/colin-craig-drops-damages-claim-against-rachel-macgregor-as-defamation-trial-begins

Crikey! As a Goddodger I’ve always considered Xtians to live sanctimonious if meddlesome lives but the carryings-on at Conservative HQ in 2014 could form the basis of a good porno.

Any of our resident Jesus freaks have experiences similar to Colin’s* that they’d like to share? 🙂

*Keep it seemly…..DPF runs a family blog.
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September 25, 2018 6:40pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Spare us Nasska..
  
  If I want to read about a consensual kiss, I’ll search through my Jane Austen..
  https://hellogiggles.com/lifestyle/secret-kiss-jane-austen/
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:55pm
  - nasska
    
    I think it went a bit further than a consensual kiss Maggy. The article refers to Rachel getting her top off & I remember reading her account a while back about giving him massages even though he smelt a bit iffy.
    
    I’m searching to see if the “Christian Extra Marital Sex Guide for Dummies” has been released yet. 🙂
    
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    September 25, 2018 7:05pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh Lordy..
      A bodice ripper…
      
      Can Scripture guide us here?
      
      Proverbs 5:19
      Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.
      
      The Song of Solomon 7:
      
      7 This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.
      
      8 I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples;
      
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      September 25, 2018 7:29pm
      - nasska
        
        Look on the bright side Maggy. At least he doesn’t molest little girls & boys…..
        
        …..unlike a few Xtian scum who could be named.
        
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        September 25, 2018 7:44pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You need Eric Idle’s ‘Rutland Dirty Weekend Book’, nasska
      
      The book also contains the “Vatican Sex Manual” featuring pictures of Eric Idle in various positions in which it is impossible to have sex.
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:28pm
- Longknives
  
  Kiwiblog Forum-
  ‘You’re probably not going to believe this but I had always lusted after my young blonde Press Secretary, then one night when I was working late..’
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:57pm
MrTips

Bought to you by the letter H, it’s the CindyTimeLie’n!:

Pregnant? Nope!
Transparent? Nope?
Lie in politics? No way!
No strikes? Of course not!
Know wot GDP is? Sure do…2 scoops?
Talk to Handley? Who?
Using your child as political bait? Why would I do that?

Tune in next time when you’ll hear Mekia say “fight me b***h!”.
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September 25, 2018 6:52pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh hell,
  
  ” it’s all been about what’s fair to Meka Whaitiri. What about that staff member who we now know has been left bruised?”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107367082/bruising-allegations-levelled-at-labours-meka-whaitiri
  
  Doesn’t look good, Jacinda.
  Your spin doctors aren’t getting their stories right.
  
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  September 25, 2018 6:59pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    The Selwyn MP said it made Labour’s commitments to openness and transparency an “utter joke.” “This is one of the least transparent Government’s New Zealand has ever seen.”
    
    She added: “We are seeing dodging, weaving, ducking.”
    
    The opposition need to use the term ‘ducking’ more frequently : it entangles the duplicitous speaker.
    
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    September 25, 2018 7:41pm
- stephieboy
  
  Mr Tips, as if anyone out there in the real world cares about your whingeing and litany of complaints.
  
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  September 25, 2018 7:26pm
Woz

What IS it with that fucking woman waving her baby all around at the UN? I mean, what’s WITH that?
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September 25, 2018 7:31pm
- stephieboy
  
  Woz, well it is that! We have come along way since the Middle Ages.
  
  Sorry that you’ve decided to stay behind.
  
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  September 25, 2018 7:39pm
  - Woz
    
    You saying that the Middle Ages are free of that kind of unprofessional, faux-virtuous, undignified and ridiculous attention seeking? I’m there! Take me back, Dr Who.
    
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    September 25, 2018 7:51pm
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      Did they have to restrain Jacinderella from whipping out her breast and feeding the BAY-BEE?
      
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      September 25, 2018 9:29pm
DigNap15

“We have come along way since the Middle Ages.”

But your muslim friends are still in it!
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September 25, 2018 7:48pm
- Woz
  
  I thought Stephieboy didn’t have any friends. I certainly haven’t seen any round here.
  
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  September 25, 2018 7:53pm
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    Woz, certainly not the rabid and alt right kind.
    
    https://www.wideopencountry.com/redneck-stories-reddit/
    
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    September 25, 2018 7:56pm
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      Glorious! Gotta love rednecks.
      
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      September 25, 2018 8:04pm
  - Manolo
    
    I offer him support now and then, otherwise the pious and devout Muslim would feel lonely. ?
    
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    September 26, 2018 2:46am
Piniwi

That was quick. No monkeying around when the brown girls are in the ring. Orangutan(gle) have decided a 30% wage increase is what is needed for social workers. It defies understanding why an essential service for all young people gets a native gibberish label making it seem just like another native initiative. Seems the answer to perceived inequality is being solved by wrapping it all up in with a wage increase? This might set another new bench mark for others to target so expect some fun times ahead. Popcorn ready.
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September 25, 2018 11:23pm
softail 1450

And now today as the toothy fairy trips the light fantastic we are officially paying four times what the Americans pay for petrol, gee thanks Jacinda and the gnome Peters.
Dont make plans for a road trip at Xmas we will be paying three dollars per litre by then.
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