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holysheet

I bought my new wife a full set of cookery DVDs for her birthday to help her learn to cook properly.
A month later she bought me a porn DVD for my birthday.
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September 14, 2018 8:01am
- Viking2
  
  You can buy little blue pills to help you with that.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:44am
  - VicParking
    
    Joe Nichols : Size Matters
    https://youtu.be/QR69Ok4sPHE
    
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    September 14, 2018 2:23pm
Pete George

From court documents:

“Either Dermot Nottingham is Lauda Finem (in other words, the leading mind of that blog) or he is so intimately related to it that it is proper to conclude that he provided information and draft articles to that blog site knowing and intending that they would be published.”

“He makes the concession…that he has never denied that he has supplied information to the website…”

More: https://yournz.org/2018/09/14/either-dermot-nottingham-is-lauda-finem-or-he-is-so-intimately-related-to-it/
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September 14, 2018 8:01am
- Simon
  
  Not even soyboy has upticked you. Struggling.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  From the Judge’s comments on this case:
  The right to free speech or freedom of expression is not a paramount right. It must be balanced against the competing rights of others in the community to be free from harassment, to be protected from harm by others who malign, abuse, threaten and undermine their peace and safety.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:21am
- dime
  
  geez some context would have been good. i have no idea what this post is about
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:51am
  - Pete George
    
    To those who know about what Lauda Finem has been used for, where hundreds of people including judges, lawyers, politicians, business people, businesses and others have been attacked, defamed, harassed and have had false accusations made about them, and personal details published, and who wanted confirmation of who one of the operators was, then the context will be obvious.
    
    To anyone else it’s probably of no importance – perhaps until they find out the rest of the story, of who else was involved.
    
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    September 14, 2018 12:49pm
    - Jack5
      
      Here’s a link to the car industry’s Autofile, which has an article about Dermot Nottingham’s bankruptcy.
      
      https://autofile.co.nz/dermot-nottingham-declared-bankrupt-
      
      Nottingham isn’t popular in the car industry. He’s written a book about alleged odometer winding back in the NZ car business.
      
      This was published by Ian Wishart’s Howling at the Moon Publishing Ltd.
      
      https://www.biblio.com/9780958371759
      
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      September 14, 2018 1:56pm
- gump
  
  I’m genuinely surprise that Dermott Nottingham hasn’t been sentenced to jail over this.
  
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  September 14, 2018 1:33pm
EAD_TWO

Is it time to ditch the “Welcome the refugees” Pope and convert to Buddhism?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159933/Dalai-Lama-says-Europe-belongs-Europeans.html

The Dalai Lama, told an audience that ‘Europe belongs to the Europeans’ and that refugees should return to their native countries to rebuild them…..

Speaking to German reporters in 2016 he said: ‘Europe, for example Germany, cannot become an Arab country.

‘Germany is Germany. There are so many that in practice it becomes difficult.

‘From a moral point of view, too, I think that the refugees should only be admitted temporarily

Let it sink in that if I white person made the same claim about their homeland, they’d be liable to be accused of a hate crime or the more recent “non-crime hate incidents” (I’m not kidding) whereas it is perfectly OK (AND normal) for any non-white leader of a country to have their country maintain the same historical ethnic makeup.

Also let it sink in that the people who control the MSM were labelling the Swedish Democrats as “Nazi” merely for proposing to reduce the rate of immigration/Swedish people being race replaced.

We are truly living in epochal times
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September 14, 2018 8:01am
- igm
  
  As a Roman Catholic I find the current Pope a bloody insult.
  The Dalai Lama has always spoken commonsense, and only recently have Popes started this inclusive progressive shit . . . must be where Gnashers takes her queue.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:06am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    This article also caught my eye in todays daily mohel:
    
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6163071/Jeremy-Corbyn-surrounded-diverse-MPs-PMQs-Parliament.html
    
    And they captured Labour’s most diverse shadow cabinet ever – with the frontbench including a record number of women and MPs from ethnic minority backgrounds.
    
    The only White Male on that front bench is a homosexual and the “right wing” Mail hails it as being “diverse” – you know the great sunlit uplands we’re all supposed to be always aiming for…..
    
    The agenda should be blatantly obvious to all but the most comatose – “Diversity” is a code word for white genocide.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:09am
  - stephieboy
    
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    igm, you a left-footer??
    
    Impossible!
    
    LOL
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:16am
    - pentwig
      
      stupidboy
      you a pervert?
      never!
      
      LOL
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:32am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy, KBs very own goat botherer ….
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:34am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      But I am. You want a nice left foot against your backside. I’ll oblige and say a prayer afterwards celebrating a job well done. Otherwise have a lovely day…
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:00am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Yeah, as an atheist I think the Dalai Lama is a good bloke (though Tibet is a long-lost cause), even if he came from what was a fucked-up theocratic shithole. I’ll be sad to see his passing. Can’t say that about many religious leaders.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:56am
    - Dave Mann
      
      As a Buddhist (yes really) I think the Dalai Lama is totally deluded and he comes from (as you so rightly point out) a theocratic shithole.
      
      There was nothing in Buddha’s actual teachings to support the idiotic idea that the Bodhisattva is constantly being reincarnated as a Tibetan and that his latest incarnation can be identified as a small Tibetan child living out in the styx. Also, the ridiculous Tibetan ideas about forest spirits, God worship, prayer wheels and so on run totally counter to almost everything that Buddha taught.
      
      As a Buddhist, I should point out these examples of delusion with compassion and tolerance if course….. but the other side of my nature is to write him off as a complete fuckwit who has done nothing useful in his life. The man’s an idiot and the best thing that happened for Tibet was to be taken over (or, reclaimed if you will) by China.
      
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      September 14, 2018 1:10pm
      - gump
        
        You are displaying a remarkable amount of hostility for a person who claims to follow Buddhist principles…
        
        “Even if thieves carve you limb from limb with a double-handed saw, if you make your mind hostile you are not following my teaching.”
        
        —Kakacūpama Sutta, Majjhima-Nikāya 28 at MN i 128-29
        
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        September 14, 2018 1:42pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        Yes I admit that. As I said, I SHOULD be more tolerant…. but really…… the guy is such an idiot and its a shame that he has become the de facto voice of ‘Buddhism’ in the eyes of the world.
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:13pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        Here’s a good video from Stefan Molyneux on the Dalai Lama:
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBH0ywUUx5k
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:59pm
- kowtow
  
  No where “belongs” to anyone.
  
  If you can it , it’s yours.
  
  Millions of third worlders sense that and are heading for Europe. Muslim leaders have even said so.
  
  Demographics dictate the present and the future.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:13am
  - Simon
    
    If the third worlders from the shit holes make in overwhelming numbers Western countries will break apart.
    
    There are parts of Sweden which are imported raw sewage already. But the political entity called Sweden will not survive if it continues.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:23am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Indeed Kowtow,
    
    Multiculturalism never adds to the existing culture. It merely adds unwanted populations; and then cam only proceed through massive planned & co-ordinated forces that push the existing culture into a lesser, defensive position via dubious moral shaming, incessant demands, harmful legislative changes, and the abandonment of free speech.
    
    Watch this for 5 minutes:
    
    https://youtu.be/Isq6YltjRRU
    
    Isn’t it strange that the same promoters of “diversity” also promote the end of differences in race, gender, salaries, educational standards, and national borders? Isn’t it strange that “diversity” is backed by global corporations that want us to consume the same products?
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:38am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Do the native-born peoples of that nation have the right to choose the ethnic makeup of their country?
  
  Or are “nations” historical anomalies that should be erased through globalization? (i.e., the elimination of diversity)
  
  Take three nations (AAA, BBB and CCC). Each is unique. Collectively they are diverse, even though they are internally homogeneous.
  Now, “diversify” them, and we have (ABC, ABC, and ABC). Internally each country is diverse, but is no longer a separate nation.
  
  Diversity has destroyed diversity.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:35am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Bit like McDonalds/Coca-cola/ shiny big malls in every city of the world…
    You can travel the world and live in the same little bubble wherever you go.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:51am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Maggy, so true.
      
      Over 20 years ago in Sapporo I remember overhearing an American family exclaiming how overjoyed they were that they had found a Macdonalds with “Eggs Macmuffins” for breakfast.
      With all the wonderful Japanese food around them, these tourists instinctively reached for what was the most familiar and comforting to them.
      
      (Note: Japanese Macdonalds has menu items unique to Japan. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhlbmwBkbw8 (featuring a woman who looks like the NZ Prime Minister))
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:08am
      - KevOB
        
        It is being reported that was Cindy pining for real work in the House vacation period.
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:24am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Take three nations (AAA, BBB and CCC). Each is unique. Collectively they are diverse, even though they are internally homogeneous.
    Now, “diversify” them, and we have (ABC, ABC, and ABC). Internally each country is diverse, but is no longer a separate nation.
    
    Diversity has destroyed diversity.
    
    See below⬇️
    
    https://youtu.be/Isq6YltjRRU
    
    Here is Moseley from the speech:
    
    “They talked of what they called multiracialism. Which was simply a universal mix up. Take humanity, put it in a bag, shake it together, and heaven knows what would come out. They wanted to get rid of what existed. All the little grey people of the world, who hate the beautiful color diversity of human development.
    
    They always want to get rid of the natural, the noble and the beautiful. They wanted to get rid of it, they wanted to make all nature as gray as themselves. We were always opposed to that. We said: “No it won’t work and it’s undesirable that it should work.”
    
    We can live in peace and friendship side by side in separate nations and separate developments, but we cannot have the mix up of peoples and races who are widely different and diverging, it will lead to nothing but trouble.”
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:06am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The next question.
      
      Which of the following three nations is likely to start a war with its neighbor?
      AAA, BBB or CCC?
      
      Another question. Which nation is most likely to have a civil war?
      ABC, ABC or ABC?
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:15am
      - SGA
        
        I think I know what you are trying to say, but I’m not sure you’ve framed your questions correctly.
        
        In terms of civil wars – they erupt along political, economic, religious, or ethnocultural lines. The history of most countries (even Japan) contains power struggles that could be called civil wars .
        
        I guess if you lived somewhere were everyone had the same political/religious/cultural views then there would be nothing to fight about, but isn’t that the sort of thing that the USSR was trying to do – is that really what you are advocating?
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:09am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        SGA,
        
        The point I am trying to make is that homogeneous nations in history have tended to fear (and attack) their “not like us” neighbors.
        On the other hand, nations containing segments that hate and despise one another (pre-partition India, for example) can lunge towards civil war.
        Of course, this is a gross oversimplification.
        
        So, if we’re all the same, we tend to fear and hate people who are different to us. On the other hand, if we are all different, then we may not get along.
        
        Getting to know people as individuals and seeking to avoid identity politics are the only solutions.
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:41am
      - SGA
        
        On the other hand, nations containing segments that hate and despise one another (pre-partition India, for example) can lunge towards civil war. Of course, this is a gross oversimplification.
        
        Sure, I was just thinking about your hypothetical examples.
        For civil wars, it *usually* isn’t a issue of “diversity” but a binary sort of thing – not so much ABC as much as AB – Royalists vs Republicans, Catholic vs Protestant, North vs South (US), Red Russians vs White Russians, Republican vs Nationalists (Spain). You could even argue that a situation where you had ABCD mixed throughout a nation would be relatively stable so long as no one group was strong enough to challenge the others.
        Just idle musings, no barrow to push.
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:56am
      - SGA
        
        Actually, thinking about it a little bit more, you could probably divide civil wars into two main categories.
        
        First, you have civil wars where one group wants to separate from the others – you don’t have AB as much as A/B (e.g., the South wanting to leave the North, the Indian partition to some extent, Ireland leaving the UK). These are more like wars between nations and may or may not end up creating separate nations. The original grouping into one nation has often been imposed and maintained by some sort of empire building at some point or another, I’m guessing?
        
        Second, you have civil wars where A and B are mixed throughout the population. The goal is to dominate the whole country (e.g., Royalists vs Republicans, Catholic vs Protestant, Red Russians vs White Russians, Republican vs Nationalists (Spain), wars to be Shogun).
        
        If some history buff wants to correct me, feel free – I’m making this up as I go.
        
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        September 14, 2018 11:37am
- Philview
  
  I notice the Archbishop Cranmer site has many digs at the Archbishop of Canterbury for his liberal/left bias. This week the A o C has been slagging off the Gig economy and praising Trade Unions. The other week the A o C called the EU the greatest dream realised by humanity since the Roman Empire.
  
  http://archbishopcranmer.com/welby-tuc-gig-economy-ancient-evil/
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:05am
  - KevOB
    
    So? Is an Archbishop not to be concerned about potential exploitation of workers? Jesus was.
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:36am
cmm

Now that we’re bumping along the bottom of the business confidence rankings with South Africa etc, maybe we can ghave Theresa May around for a wee poi dance and she’ll top us up with 4bn pounds of investment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXLPjPdbwGE
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September 14, 2018 8:04am
- igm
  
  Wonderful!
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:09am
- stephieboy
  
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  “Demographics dictate the present and the future.”
  
  Like Dunedin population overtaken by 40- 60 Muslims?
  
  Idiocy!
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:20am
- stephieboy
  
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  cmm. forget about SA ever returning to the good old days of white apartheid rule.
  
  Move on old cock!
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:21am
  - igm
    
    South Africa under black rule is well on the way to another Rhodesia. By the time they have finished they will be leeching off hapless UN like the rest of the lazy shit holes around the globe. Bet not many goat shaggers/rug pilots go there . . . they would have to work (if they can find it) to feed their offspring, not bludge, like they do in western white countries.
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:07am
    - sooty
      
      Unless President Trump with holds the money from the UN, then they will only be able to pay their own salaries and nothing for aid.
      
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      September 14, 2018 11:55am
  - Harkman
    
    Hey Ralph, the black fascists have already generated a massive agricultural recession. They’ll be dependent on the IMF and World Bank soon.
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:38am
  - cmm
    
    You really are an odious little prick.
    
    I have spoken out against apartheid often. I am not an apartheid apologist as you have often claimed.
    
    Find one quote to back up your assertions and I will uptick every one of your worthless posts for a week.
    
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    September 14, 2018 11:22am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He and his fellow trolls won’t reply.
      
      Mission accomplished… They have left a filthy smear against your Pseudonym/name.
      
      Stick around on this blog long enough and you will soon learn their techniques.
      
      Unless you are well-heeled and secure in your employment & relationships, do not give out any identifying information on this blog.
      
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      September 14, 2018 2:33pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

What does it mean if you answer a question with a question?

INTERVIEWER: “Is Meka’s job safe?”
WILLY: “Does Raggedy Ann have a cotton crotch?”
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September 14, 2018 8:04am
- CHFR1
  
  I think this misstep by the PM may be her undoing. You can’t #metoo and keep Meka in her job it may play well with the bro element but many Maori are appalled by the actions and think she should be punished.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:07am
CHFR1

I think Hooten has been a little nicer than he should be but this is bang on. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12124540
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September 14, 2018 8:05am
- krazykiwi
  
  Nicer? Hooten’s pretty direct here.
  
  No new Prime Minister has had an easier ride than Jacinda Ardern.
  
  John Key was elected in the midst of the global financial crisis, Helen Clark in the wake of the Asian economic crisis, Jim Bolger during a domestic fiscal crisis, David Lange during a New Zealand currency crisis and Robert Muldoon after the 1973 oil shock.
  
  The problems besieging Ardern’s Government are entirely the result of Labour’s own economic naivety and political incompetence, and she and Finance Minister Grant Robertson are singularly unprepared to confront the difficult choices ahead.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:25am
  - igm
    
    Fat Fairy has no fiscal training other than the fact his father was an accountant, and that ended in tragedy . . . of his own doing.
    There is not one of the current line-up who can show successful commercial ventures, or successful employment in private sector companies. They have all survived by leeching off taxpayers, ratepayers, and misled unionists. Typical of lifelong failures.
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:57am
    - sooty
      
      You forgot that Alfie has to give change on his bus. He must have tought robbo everthing he knows!
      
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      September 14, 2018 11:58am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Great talk from Key here to the Tax Traders Lunch about the economy. He looks so relaxed and well. Love his cool approachable manner and the way he just delivers complex information and ideas in such an accessible likeable way. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6443659175166824449/
    
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    September 14, 2018 5:03pm
hullkiwi

Winston’s convenient lapse of memory seems to have come back again.
Nick Smith did a good interview about NZF, their constitution, the good behavior bond and the waka bill. Well done Nick.
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September 14, 2018 8:08am
- Keeping Stock
  
  In the last couple of months Smith has been an excellent performer. He has regularly grilled Little over the Waka-jumping Bill, and even though Mallard rejected his breach of privilege accusation against Peters, he has clearly got under the DPM’s skin.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:12am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes although Nick Smith is a bungler and a liability for National he is a very good performer in Parliament.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:25am
    - Happychappy
      
      It’s better than being perceived as corrupt by many voters in NZ like Winston and he doesn’t lower himself to calling people names under Parliamentry Privilege like Peters.
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:05am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  How inconvenient..
  A Prime Minister and a Deputy Prime Minister with “memory lapses”
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/366403/peters-wrong-on-nz-first-mps-good-behaviour-contract
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:30am
  - lilman
    
    Have it from good authority a story is brewing ,maybe Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
    
    My Niece who work in a Labour Minister office said that they are in pre spin mode now.
    
    She said the right questions havent been asked and Labour are trying to reorganise their responses and positions before the story breaks.
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:27am
    - Evadne
      
      Hence the “diary issues”?
      
      Still, nothing to get excited about. Scandals and incompetence are a weekly fixture with this ‘government’.
      
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      September 14, 2018 10:17am
secondcumming

[CAUTION- content may offend]

Has the NZH has really gone to the dogs??

My mother in-law just emailed us *this link* under the subject header:
‘LEAD’ ARTICLE IN THE HORRID

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12124505
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September 14, 2018 8:12am
- wreck1080
  
  Is that you, bubba?
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:14am
wreck1080

1080 poison opponents couldn’t find any animals killed by 1080. So they bludgeoned to death a bunch of animals to prove that 1080 kills animals….

These people are crazy. And why is it that 1080 opponents look like gun toting serial killers?
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September 14, 2018 8:13am
- VicParking
  
  Its all for the “Greater Good”. Innocents must die to bring attention to the greatness of our socialist cause.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:22am
  - sooty
    
    Did the Nazis do something similar with the Jews?
    
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    September 14, 2018 12:00pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What a load of liars…
  Now we are told some of the birds were “roadkill”….so not 1080 poisoned.
  Now we are told that the protesters didn’t “own” the carcasses.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/366409/it-was-an-act-of-theatre-1080-activist-on-dead-birds-at-parliament
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:34am
  - KevOB
    
    Green piece and Flip the Birds?
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:44am
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5.) Quiz them on the NZ Land wars (odds are they don’t know anything about it).

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7.) Steal their sunscreen.

8.) Contact their place of work and inform their employers of their disgusting racist behaviour so they get fired.

9.) Mail a bag of dog shit to Richard Spencer’s house or donate money in the name of an alt-righter to the Human Rights Commission

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September 14, 2018 8:14am
- Simon
  
  Soyboy
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:16am
- holysheet
  
  Stooopidboy got an internet advert asking if he wanted to improve his sex life.
  He answered all the questions and waited for the advice.
  It was a short answer.
  Change hands.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:24am
- VicParking
  
  One easy was to piss of a Stephie : Hide his Goat ??
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Contact their place of work and inform their employers of their disgusting racist behaviour so they get fired.
  So when you wrote on Kiwiblog that I am an “alt-righter”, you would have approved of folks trying to destroy my employment/consultancy/volunteer work prospects .?
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:39am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yes, sadly he would MW.
    Point 9 is not an example of intelligent, civilised behaviour either.
    I used to think this Sb person was just a bit thick, but respected his right to contribute his views.
    Now I believe he has serious personal issues he should recognise and deal with.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:50am
    - igm
      
      He is not just a moron, he is a danger, and should be locked up or sent back where he came from.
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:10am
      - Jack5
        
        “He”? Stephieboy is the pseudonym of a small group of trolls. English is the first language of none of them.
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:49am
      - sooty
        
        Surely someone from St Albans in Ak must read this blog and set the congregation a twittering!
        
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        September 14, 2018 12:04pm
- softail 1450
  
  septicboy you moron,how about something good from the labour party please……fucking idiot.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:46am
- pentwig
  
  10 easy ways to piss off a trolling alt-leftie idiot
  
  1. Ignore it.
  2. Ignore it.
  3. Ignore it.
  4. Ignore it.
  5. Ignore it.
  6. Ignore it.
  7. Ignore it.
  8. Tell its church elders it is a boastful serial pervert.
  9. Tell all cafe owners in Auckland it is a serial pervert.
  10. Tell the world it is a serial pervert.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:24am
- Evadne
  
  Those things don’t “piss off an alt-righter”. They just show the world that ctrl-lefties are boorish, narcissistic, and stupid.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:20am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Who, outside of your little left bubble, really cares?
  
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  September 14, 2018 1:17pm
oldpark

“Just running scared ,afraid to show”. How appropiate for NZs “Nearly” PM. Ardern.It started yesterday when Ardern pulled out of a Wellington Mornings show with HDPA. The vacant slot was filled by NZs ClaytonS PM a wee guy called Peters.
Today we hear that our” Nearly” PM Ardern has done it again. “Running Scared Afraid to Show”,on TVNZs Q@A or Newshubs Nation show similar to TVNZ. Whats going on . Will the self appointed NZs Claytons PM wee man Peters fill the same broadcasting slot,maybe.
Better still will Ardern and Peters do the right thing and tell the Nation of NZ .Who really is NZs PM.No ifs ,No buts , No maybes.
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September 14, 2018 8:14am
- cmm
  
  Campbell going back to TV.
  
  Is he setting up a special Jacinda spin unit?
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:22am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Oma rapeti oma rapeti oma oma oma
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:31am
  - Lance
    
    Ah………That brings back the primer 2 memories
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:39pm
- VicParking
  
  Poor Cindy, maybe she has Postpartum depression (PPD) and is finding being a mother of Neve and the mother or Aotearoa to much. Lets give her a break, I’m sure the kind and considerate Deputy Prime Minister will take over for the rest of the year and allow her to bond with little Neve.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:55am
  - KevOB
    
    Cindy was determined that life would follow her script. She is too fixed in her mind to accept any variation to her plans. A characteristic of dictators?
    
    I hope she hasn’t got PPD. It would severely challenge her. Regretably frequent.
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:51am
Simon

I am old enough to remember when it was widely considered that Ardern’s shit didn’t stink.

Those were the days. Strange only seems a few months ago.
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September 14, 2018 8:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Simon, as if anybody outside KBs Alt right bubble chamber cares!
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:23am
  - Simon
    
    Well you are a Labo fluffer.
    
    Question for you soyboy do you think Ardern’s shit still doesnt stink?
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:26am
  - hullkiwi
    
    SB, do yourself a favour and get informed. Just turn left and look at the Standard so you can see how distressed your brethren on that site are getting about the SLG and her government.
    
    Then do a history check and see what happened to Labour governments 1974 to 1975 and 1988 to 1990 when there was this daily diet of incompetence by the government on display.
    
    Finally, as the SLG leaves the 9th floor of the Beehive, don’t forget to remind her to turn out the lights, we don’t need to waste any imported oil & gas on the needless generation of wasted electricity. Face it she’s going to be gone in 2 years.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:48am
    - lifesgood
      
      If not sooner.
      
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      September 14, 2018 10:00am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy, stop repeating yourself goatboy….
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:49am
- VicParking
  
  Its not that her shirt did not stink. its just that she is running out of fairy dust to hide the smell
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:26am
NK

https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/latest-news/news/drop-in-number-of-oia-responses-on-time?utm_source=LawPoints+12+September+2018&utm_campaign=5117046d27-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_07_17_03_22_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_71dcf90d85-5117046d27-42247997

Money quote:

Releasing the data, State Services Commissioner Peter Hughes says the on time responses are a drop of 1.9% on the previous period, which is disappointing.
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September 14, 2018 8:15am
- NK
  
  The PM won’t front on TV interviews. Her ministers are hiding official emails in their Gmail accounts. And OIA response times are falling.
  
  Open and transparent? More like opaque, muddy and corrupt.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:34am
hullkiwi

Mallard was his usual self yesterday, making Winston answer put to him , not. Instead of answering PB’s questions about whether all the government parties would support the Industrial Relations reform bill, Peter’s resorted to throwing abuse and taunts.

Peter’s would answer, because we all know he is going to make Lees-Galloway look like a eunoch again.
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September 14, 2018 8:15am
- Piniwi
  
  But hullkiwi it would seem that the old drunk already has a fair bag full of nuts along with some clitorous allsorts. Evidenced by the scripted answers being offered along the lines of “this Government is an MMP Government and all decisions will be made through the full cabinet”. That is just another blind they are trying to draw down as we already know that that is far from the process as it could possibly be. The ring leader even said he would “not answer a question on that” Naturally that had Gerry Browlee on his feet yet again raising another Point of Order. However hearing Lees-Galloway so cheerfully repeating his scripted response confirmed A) that is was in fact scripted and B) he had not had to create something himself.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:04pm
krazykiwi

Just heard Nick Smith on Red Radio. I’m not a fan of either, but in this instance Smith did a fine, fact-based job of attacking Winston’s anti-democratic waka jumping plans, and his disproportionate influence on our government
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September 14, 2018 8:16am
- NK
  
  Yes, the two star performers presently in the opposition are surprising. Nick Smith and Melissa Lee. Judith is running a close third.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:18am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And Amy trying to trip Robbo up looks like a flustered farmer’s wife.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:45am
    - KevOB
      
      But Robbo presents as a headless chook, pulls faces and thinks he is in a kindy debating playpen. No sensible straight answers available. Amy chases him for as long as possible.
      
      Self belief in a Finance Minister enables him to reject all external advice.
      
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      September 14, 2018 10:58am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Chris Bishop deserves an honourable mention
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:03am
- Piniwi
  
  Right krazykiwi but don’t be too swayed by what WO thinks of Dr Nick Smith as he is a very hard working elected member who has strong support from many constituents whether they vote Red or Blue. Plus as a senior member of the opposition he sets a great example of how things work in the House as well as how to pose questions. It speaks a lot about the Bridges style of leadership as he has gauged the strengths of his key team members as well as some newer members who also show promise.
  There biggest challenge has been how to pin down Ministers who do everything to avoid any semblance of an answer. Luckily the Government have not yet got to understand the more they waffle the sillier they look. Thus where before they turned to their audience seated around them only to find it is not the last laugh as it gets repeated or as is increasingly happening the Speaker tells them to “have another go”.
  There is no claims of being new to the role of opposition since there has never been a Government like this in NZ history who seem happy to self harm. It is reaching masochistic proportions as they seek personal glory while trying to make it look like a comedy act. The best is yet to come.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:25pm
pdm

Parliamentary Supplementary Question of the day yesterday went to Paula Bennett who started off:

Will the Winston led government ……….

At that point Speaker Mallard ruled the question out as being disorderly.

Too late Mallard the point was well made especially after all her previous questions had all started – will the Labour led government…….
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September 14, 2018 8:23am
- Piniwi
  
  Right PDM as we see the opposition taking a page out of the COL playbook with repetitive little dig in the nicest possible way to conform to standing orders. Technically correct but oh so rattling to the recipient.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:30pm
secondcumming

Really……

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm9jrp7WsAAqVnF.jpg
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September 14, 2018 8:27am
DigNap15

The problem for us all on here, is that all of these latest stuffs ups by Labour and the COL are really superfluous in the big picture.
I don’t think that voters base their votes on such things.
Its the economy, taxes, jobs, wages, crime, education and healthcare, and the general feeling of the nation that people vote on.
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September 14, 2018 8:29am
- hullkiwi
  
  DN5, yes. But as we saw in 1988 to 1990, the constant level of stories showing incompetence was paralleled by an economy that was also in free fall.
  
  Look at what is happening here
  1. Constant incompetence of the government;
  2. Business confidence has been flushed away;
  3. Economic forecasts are starting to turn south (not a good sign or something to crow about)
  
  All of which will lead NZ to where it doesn’t want to be. Then the support of the soft blue votes will turn against the SLG and the Toxic Gnome. None of which gives me any comfort to write, but I’ve seen it before.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:56am
- Piniwi
  
  Right DigNap15 but the country is a sort of seemingly safe lull period not unlike a tax bracket creep ahead of the inflationary effects of poor policy kicking in. Even early fuel price rises felt by the public at the pumps have yet to flow on to increased costs for almost everything which will see inflation driving interest rates up. That is a “when” and not an “if” so in the mean time things can look quite peachy which incidental also have short shelf life.
  We have to marvel at those Greeks though as they think they have found perhaps an ancient law from their vast history. They are attempting to increase interest rates to COMBAT inflation that is spiraling out of control. Could this be a sweet cheek strategy when inflation does start to spiral?
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:59pm
Steve (North Shore)

Jacinda unavailable – diary fuckup. More at 4pm today
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September 14, 2018 8:36am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  She is prearing for a big speech on Sunday…….. .
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:50am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes, I read on the Standard that she is doing a big speech to the faithful. There were questions as to whether it will be yet another relaunch and trying to get control of the agenda again. When you read phrases like that, you know they (Labour) know things are out of control and they are lost. Given that we are approaching 1 year since the election, this lot lost control very quickly.
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:01am
  - Inandout
    
    Another baby, a marriage, a snap election, or will she get out of parliament and become a mother?
    
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    September 14, 2018 9:34am
    - sooty
      
      Clares caused a by election?
      
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      September 14, 2018 12:09pm
Viking2

The Movement is happening.
Campbell off to TVNZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/107013307/john-campbell-to-present-final-show-for-rnz

That’s it Netflix is going to get another customer.
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September 14, 2018 8:47am
- softail 1450
  
  Viking2 ,A new torture procedure for Guantanamo Bay, Tie prisoner to sturdy chair ,turn on endless loop of John Cambpell and Hillary Barry doing interviews, the prisoner will be screaming for the safety of the waterboard within 1 hour.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  No problem for me as my TV doesn’t know where to find TVNZ.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:20am
- Surely Knott
  
  Oh no. It gets’ worse. https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/14-09-2018/im-desperately-in-love-with-john-campbell-and-my-husband-understands/
  Spinoff truly sinking to new lows.
  Delusional. My favourite is in the comments where someone says that their boss gives John Campbell regular free car cleaning so he bought them a gift once. Why is the king of socialism on his mega watt salary needing regular free car washes gifted to him. Just pay the normal fee John C. The salary should be enough.
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:34pm
softail 1450

septicboy, stop repeating yourself goatboy….
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September 14, 2018 8:54am
Huevon

Sounds like Ardern has cracked.
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September 14, 2018 9:07am
Sofia

NZ First’s constitution requires its MPs to pay a fine of up to $300,000 if they are expelled or resign from the caucus, but stay on in Parliament.
Mr Peters last month said his MPs had all signed up, but he now says his memory was wrong.
“On a later examination, I found out that no one had,” he told reporters.

If Winston’s waka-jumping bill is so important to him, that he horse-traded NZF opposition to banning gas and oil offshore exploration for Green support of his bill, why did he not check who had actually signed up to the NZ First Constitution $300,000 commitment last September?
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September 14, 2018 9:16am
- krazykiwi
  
  I wish we could stop it being called the waka-jumping bill. So-called waka jumping is the trigger for the action – MP Expulsion. Or at least this is how I currently understand it.
  
  On that basis, it should be known as the MP Expulsion Bill. We can make it clear that it is totally unheard of in modern, functioning democracies.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:46am
- Poppa
  
  Peters does seem to have a lot of bad memory moments, especially when pesky questions are asked
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:46am
- Prince
  
  Because that was before the shredders started up.
  No pledges now. Honest.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:34am
- Piniwi
  
  Simple Sofia he was leaning on his memory or at least that his excuse perhaps after reading what has been said on KB so often that it seems to be limited. The natural question to follow would have been if he will be apologizing for misleading the House since he seems to have let that slip from upstairs as well.
  The best line from that exchange was telling the media to pose it in a written question? While he may have considered this a witty response it can come back to haunt him by what has been his favorite question from his usual opposition seat. “Does the DPM stand by ALL his statements”
  However the Speaker will likely also be challenged over his decision not to pursue a legitimate claim of conflict of interest being posed by the opposition. More to come perhaps if the silly little girl does not provide enough distraction on Sunday?
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:23pm
MrTips

Random tip: engagements may have been cancelled because there might be the problem of present and impending OIAs regarding Curran’s GMail account. It seems possible that certain unicorns might be implicated in those emails…..
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September 14, 2018 9:17am
- Prince
  
  If Ardern is implicated in anything dodgy in those emails you can bet they will never see the light of day.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:32am
jcuk

Anyone noticed and been disgusted at the amount of time the MSM spend of the storm approaching the east coast of the States compared to how little attention being paid to the other five hurricanes affecting the northern part of our world?
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September 14, 2018 9:18am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  It’s because ‘Florence’ is Trump’s fault
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, that’s what the Washington Post reckons
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.38a61c7338c0
    
    https://realclimatescience.com/2018/09/attribution-for-north-carolina-hurricanes/
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:19am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Don’t you just love Tony Hellers work.
      His resource of old newspaper articles showing extreme weather event articles from the late 1800’s on is fantastic.
      I saw some the other day from 1974 of newspapers, including the Guardian, where scientists were predicting an Ice Age.
      
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      September 14, 2018 10:32am
- rightoverlabour
  
  I was listening to Hoskin this morning and he interviewed someone from NIWA. And I was astounded. He never blamed Global Warming or Climate Change once. Basically stated good science simply ( ocean Temps are highest in September, and warm water spawns Cyclones – in the absence of wind shear). Nothing alarmist, no “More now than ever before” crap… Good on him.
  
  Also agree on the USA vs rest of the world bias, but then there is lot more fake news coming out of the USA than the Philippines.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:04am
  - ex-golfer
    
    Who is Hoskin?
    I see this name used a lot on this blog – but I have no idea who is being referred to.
    
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    September 14, 2018 2:56pm
- kowtow
  
  And no longer are they mere hurricanes or typhoons , they are according to the media Super hurricanes/typhoons.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:34am
- Piniwi
  
  Right jcuk or how the global warmest are grabbing onto the fact so many are happening across the ocean all at once? This what helps to explode their theories faster than they can produce more computer models. It is the typhoon season which locally are named from A to Z each year. The latest is known locally as Ompong (Mangkut Intenationally) passing 200 add km to the North East of us where the laundry was hung out and dried when Yolanda struck in 2013. Not even enough wind to get our iconic rotary cloths line turning. But those global warmest’s are never short of trying to make any gain from any and all natural weather events. Talk about chicken little antics.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:37pm
DigNap15

Here is the last Maori vocab word for Maori Language week
Its Celerity

Its not in my printed dictionary, but I did win a Trademe auction for another dictionary, so hopefully there will be more words for us all.
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September 14, 2018 9:23am
- VicParking
  
  Tuhinga o mua
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:00am
- KevOB
  
  whakarapeti
  
  (That does not mean indeceny with rabbits.)
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:14am
- Piniwi
  
  Funny DigNap15 you mentioning the claimed indigenous NZ language as Stats NZ are struggling to get any figures that can help it on life support. Perhaps after Shaw’s rework of the system they ban only resort to a % rather than another number to confirm it is struggling.
  ” Fifty-three percent of New Zealanders in the survey strongly agreed or agreed Māori should be a core subject in primary schools.
  In the 2013 Census, 148,395 people said they spoke Māori, compared with 157,110 in 2006. Perhaps it has got the wrong jiggle label and should be Chereo as it slips away on a wing and prayer to land in the lovely bed of taxpayers money.
  While there is little we can not find with the help of Dr Google to help us learn, understand or fix so many things they seem to have concealed the actual giiberish speaking count behind a % that suits somebodies narrative. Lol
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:50pm
lastmanstanding

If we dont pull out of Paris like US China India and probably Oz and Japan will do so does that mean the poor who Lab/Greens claim to stand for will get poorer along with the middle class and the only ones to profit will be big business by hiking it prices (Greenwash) and the government from hiking it taxes.

Discuss.
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September 14, 2018 9:25am
- DigNap15
  
  I would like us to pull out of Paris (and the UN)
  
  I don’t believe the man made global warming spin.
  
  And even if it were true we are just a blip in the amount of so called greenhouse gases.
  
  Concentrate on China and India who both have huge numbers of coal powered power stations.
  
  Yet to be fair to China, a lot of the power they use goes to produce the goods we all use! Clothes, Tv’s phones, toys, etc etc.
  
  (This does not apply to India which is just producing more useless breeders)
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:41am
  - VicParking
    
    I see a major issue with this climate change hoax.
    It the temperature rises wont the SnowFlakes melt but if the temperature stays the same the SnowFlakes will have nothing to melt over.
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:03am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      VP, you haven’t learned a thing.
      If the temperature stays the same that’s because the data hasn’t been adjusted yet.
      
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      September 14, 2018 12:20pm
- Wayne Mapp
  
  None of China, India, Australia and Japan are going to pull out of Paris.
  
  The US is by itself on that one.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:43am
  - All_on_Red
    
    The US leads the World!
    Australia stays in (just) but has weakened any action to meet targets because they are worried about ever increasing energy costs on consumers.
    Who would have thought!
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-accord-australia/australia-weakens-commitment-to-climate-accord-after-government-fractures-idUSKCN1L507Y
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:58am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Look closer, the whole process is crumbling – failure to progress at Bangkok climate change conference a few days back underlines that.
    
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    September 14, 2018 11:44am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Global warming/climate change is a hoax, nothing more than revenue gathering.
  Last year I was in Seward Alaska. Went to Exit Glacier. All of the usual bullshit was there, markers to show the years where the ice was back to the 1930s. What the didn’t tell you is this Glacier has been receding since before the industrial revolution – that does not fit the narrative
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:30am
- Piniwi
  
  Likely lastmanstanding as the “team” are determined that little old NZ will be at the top of one list which might be lonely as the country to fully commit to our (her) nuclear moment. It is interesting after so much blow by blow coverage of the Paris talk fest the recent meeting held somewhere less than noteworthy hardly got a mention. It is even fair to say most were unaware it was even taking place though we might expect two mums will come back with all the good “news”.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The rort that Is Scientific Publishing

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/13/scientific-publishing-rip-off-taxpayers-fund-research

Here in NZ, taxpayers have to wait 3 years before work published in the RSNZ journals becomes freely available.

Work by NZ-funded scientists published in Overseas journals may never become freely available.

All theses from NZ universities should be freely available online to NZ citizens.
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September 14, 2018 9:37am
- rangitoto
  
  That’s why I love the pre-print archive at Cornell. The other sciences need something similar.
  
  https://arxiv.org/
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:54am
- KevOB
  
  I have frequently encountered that–a summary but not the meat.
  There is a cabal of publishers determined to charge for whatever they can get control of.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:27am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You need to read the entire paper usually to check up on the methods used, data collected and analysis undertaken.
    
    Quite often, the summary promises more than the data actually reveals.
    
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    September 14, 2018 12:50pm
Harkman

So Taika Waititi is back again, this guy is NZ’s answer to Colin Kaepernick. I wonder how much nz on air funding this guy has received over the years?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2018/09/taika-waititi-praises-jacinda-ardern-says-nz-is-turning.html

“I get in a lot of trouble when I mouth off about New Zealand, I’m like public enemy number one over there,” he said.

“They say ‘What’s it like in New Zealand?’, and I say ‘It’s racist’. [Then Kiwis] say ‘you’re supposed to be a spokesperson for this country!’. But, it is. It’s a f**ked up country, but it’s a beautiful country – I’m patriotic and I love my country. We’ve got a great Prime Minister now and things are turning.”

Yep turning into a basket case.
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September 14, 2018 9:45am
- dubya
  
  Waititi is a grade-A wanker who makes highly overrated movies. If his idea of beautiful is an intellectually bereft communist with an overbite, chubby ankles, and the dress sense of a sack of fair-trade coffee beans, I think we can discount his opinions.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:54am
- DigNap15
  
  I quite like him, but his reasons for New Zealand being racist is just ridiculous.
  He says that Maori names being pronounced incorrectly is racist!
  Come on.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:33am
  - Evadne
    
    I wonder what his Urdu pronunciation is like? Can he speak Swahili correctly? Or the language of the Korowai tribe? Maybe he’s racists towards the Icelandic people if he can’t say Eyjafjallajökull correctly?
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:44am
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes, would he tell a Japanese person off as being racist for having problems with our English “l”s and “r”s.
      I work with several Maori people and two of the guys have very hard names to pronounce, I do my best, but I always feel bad that I cannot get it right.
      I am sure they accept it.
      
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      September 14, 2018 11:03am
- kowtow
  
  Flax basket case.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:21am
- howitis
  
  Was he saying this as Taika Waititi or Taika Cohen?
  
  Ardern had been PM nearly 6 months when he did his first rant in March this year.
  What has changed?
  What has he been offered?
  
  How is his Hebrew pronunciation?
  Are his friends in the NZ media anti-Semitic and what has he to say about that?
  He seems to have wide ranging opinions.
  
  Can he put it in his diary to give us an opinion on the NZ media coverage of Israel matters?
  There is a spot on the taxpayer-funded TV political shows this weekend due to someone else’s diary cock up.
  Don’t hold back Mr Cohen.
  
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  September 14, 2018 12:53pm
lilman

lol,really ,New Zealander of the year.

Poor prick ,he just realised hes not white.

How pathetic this guy is,make me cringe for my kids who are New Zealanders and Maori.
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September 14, 2018 10:01am
Maggy Wassilieff

$ 130,000 tax-payers’ money for doing Nothing.

Thanks Clare.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/107080064/derek-handley-receives-compensation-after-being-dumped-as-chief-technology-officer
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September 14, 2018 10:31am
- Swifty
  
  If Curran had any honour she would reimburse the taxpayer for this.
  
  She caused it.
  
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  September 14, 2018 10:36am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  It’s ok, the fourth estate will be able to question the PM on this in her media interviews this weekend
  
  ….
  
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  …
  
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  Diary confusion? How convenient!
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:12am
- KevOB
  
  The payout seems reasonable in the circumstances.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:31am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Reasonable given CoL mismanagement, but still a fucking waste.
    
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    September 14, 2018 11:40am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I’d like to know if the recruitment round was tainted by the intention to give Handley the job all along?
  The other candidates had their time wasted if the position was never available to them.
  
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  September 14, 2018 12:35pm
  - Evadne
    
    Maybe they’ll be due compensation as well??
    
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    September 14, 2018 2:54pm
Maggy Wassilieff

You would think in Maori Language Week that we would get a few words right…
Like IGNORANT… but it seems it has flexible interpretations in Te Reo.

Hon Kelvin Davis: There is an issue, though, when someone speaks Māori—there’s a difference between the translation and the interpretation. So there are some words that can be translated in more than one way. And so there is the issue around the interpretation of what I said. I think I know the answer that he was referring to, which was one that Minister Jones put to me, and there was a word I used that can be interpreted as “ignorant”. I’m not sure what the translation said, but the translation could well have been a word that was a lot more harsh. But I’m not responsible for the translation of what I say.

Hon Members: You are.

SPEAKER: Order! I’m on my feet. This has highlighted an area where there is a potential for some problems. We all know that as translations or interpretation is occurring, both into New Zealand Sign Language and into Māori, or from Māori to English, there is often a speed of discussion which people who are doing the interpretation are struggling to keep up with, because obviously the members who are talking know what they’re going to say, but it’s slightly unpredictable to people who are doing simultaneous translation. And anyone who has even a modicum of understanding of Māori language and is listening to the interpretation will understand that occasionally there are interpretations which are not quite what one would expect to occur, and I think we do go with that. I’ll certainly accept the word of Mr Davis, that he thought it was possible that a harsher interpretation was given to a particular word that he used—harsher than what he would’ve given if he had been doing the interpretation—and while the interpretation might have been out of order, the actual original comments were not. I say to Mr Brownlee that while I’m trying very hard, one thing that is impossible for me to do with my level of language skills is to second-guess the interpretations, even a day later.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20180913_20180913_12
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September 14, 2018 10:43am
- KevOB
  
  “Ignorant” as used in English would be an offence against mana in Polynesia. That is way past the semi polite equivalent : “you got it wrong”. Physicality could result.
  
  The drive to enforce Tereo as a universal language in modern NZ has many pitfalls.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:38am
Philview

I scan several newspapers online and tend to view the Otago Daily Times as a Labour supporting newspaper. Interesting to see the tone this morning that the editor is starting to worry about the control Peters has over Labour. This Government is in trouble if its MSM supporters are worried.

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/time-wrest-back-control
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September 14, 2018 10:43am
starboard

**MAORI CRIME WATCH WEEK**
Case 150
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107075518/pair-weilding-knife-stick-try-to-rob-tokoroa-dairy

Case 151
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/107034771/he-was-bleeding-everywhere–man-assaulted-at-takanini-train-station

Case 152
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107072480/defence-force-soldier-admits-to-stupid-wrong-and-degrading-indecent-assault
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September 14, 2018 10:59am
- DigNap15
  
  I hope you can keep this series going!
  And I hope that Andrew Little and Kelvin Davis and Willie Jackson read it!
  
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  September 14, 2018 12:23pm
  - starboard
    
    There is no shortage of them, cant see why not lol
    
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    September 14, 2018 1:03pm
alwyn

Well, well.
I wonder what other little snippets are going to show up in the Clare Curran email collection?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12125093
I wonder if there was any official record of the appointment of Handley as CTO? After all young Chippie, who is probably the person officially in charge wouldn’t talk about the matter a few days ago.
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September 14, 2018 10:59am
- rangitoto
  
  So Cindy’s CoL wasted $100k. There’s plenty more were that came from. Dig deeper taxpayers.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:15am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    No no no Rangitoto you have it all wrong.
    These are sunk costs.
    If Curran hadn’t been found out having sneaky meetings, Handley would be in the job and we’d have paid him anyway.
    There is absolutely no additional cost to the taxpayer – unless Bridges had done it.
    
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    September 14, 2018 5:44pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yes, there seems to be something of a cover-up going on here; hardly what you’d expect from New Zealand’s most open and transparent government ever.
  
  This from Question Time on Wednesday:
  
  Question No. 8—State Services
  8. Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson) to the Minister of State Services: Has the process for appointing the Government’s Chief Technology Officer been consistent with the commitment “to be the most open, most transparent Government that New Zealand has ever had”?
  
  Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of State Services): No.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Was Derek Handley offered the appointment?
  
  Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I don’t believe it’s in the interests of natural justice or the public interest to comment on the process while it is still a live process.
  
  Hon Dr Nick Smith: Was the successful candidate for the Government’s chief technical officer advised at or around 14 August, in light of his answer to written question No. 17144 that unsuccessful candidates were advised on that date?
  
  Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: As I indicated in my previous supplementary question answer, while it is a live process, I don’t believe it is in the interests of natural justice or the public interest to comment further.
  
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20180912_20180912_06
  
  The most notable bit from that extract was that Hipkins’ admission in answer to the primary question that this had not been an open, transparent process. It’s probably the only honest word anyone from Labour has spoken about the whole, expensive clusterfuck.
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:16am
  - KevOB
    
    The rest of the Minister’s responses were proper too–not purposely evasive.
    
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    September 14, 2018 11:19am
    - VicParking
      
      Yes the Process for hiring him was over but the Process for giving him the boot and a $107k payout was not…….
      
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      September 14, 2018 2:32pm
Left Right and Centre

wtf now is ‘intersectional feminism’ ??

Shit mate – they make more and more shit up faster than you can learn about it. Bugger *me* !!!!!!
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September 14, 2018 11:14am
All_on_Red

Looks like US Congress is getting ready to take action against Google. Facebook and Twitter for its censorship activities against conservatives.
I doubt Regulation or anti Trust law will work. I reckon they’ll start fining them on the back of consumers complaints.
This was amusing albeit rather pointed…
https://babylonbee.com/news/google-rep-issues-heartfelt-apology-for-anti-conservative-bias-while-wearing-kill-all-republicans-t-shirt/
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September 14, 2018 11:17am
- stephieboy
  
  Didn’t realise that you a master at Trivial pursuits.?
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:45am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hey Stephie, the Sex abuse scandal amongst the Catholic Church is growing.
    Apparently you attend an “Anglican Church in the Catholic tradition (!)”.
    Do you think there are any perverts there?
    
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    September 14, 2018 11:55am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red.con.
      
      give your fixation a rest!
      
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      September 14, 2018 11:59am
      - All_on_Red
        
        More like it’s perverted Christians with the fixation.
        Unfortunately the few ⬆️ ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ tarnish the reputation of the good ones.
        
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        September 14, 2018 12:02pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All On Wed.con, as I suggested, give your hang up a rest.
        
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        September 14, 2018 12:23pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        How about you get some help for your ‘hang ups’
        I think Gravelroad speaks for us
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/09/general_debate_14_september_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2308222
        
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        September 14, 2018 12:36pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Sounds like hate speech to me.
  Where’s Golly?
  
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  September 14, 2018 12:30pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

The Scholastic Aptitude Test in the USA is a highly correlated (>0.8) proxy for IQ testing (and general intelligence ‘g’) used for college placement. SAT standard deviation is about 194. IQ standard deviation is 15

https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/12/the-blackwhite-sat-gap/

This blog looked at black-white SAT result differences against income. Found that across all income levels there was about a 150 point difference between black kids and white kids. That points to an average IQ difference of about 12 points. Black kids from the richest (generally smartest parents) black families with every advantage only matched white kids from the poorest (generally thickest parents) white families.

This is yet more proof that the gap is genetic, it can’t be fixed by anything done after conception.
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September 14, 2018 11:25am
- stephieboy
  
  UN, merely the Bell Curve dressed up in drag which like Charles Murray simply aims to reinforce racial prejudice and racial separatism,
  
  The Real Problem with Charles Murray and “The Bell Curve”
  
  “The 1994 book, now seeing an unfortunate resurgence, investigates racial differences in IQ—without being honest about the authors’ motives”
  
  https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/the-real-problem-with-charles-murray-and-the-bell-curve/
  
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  September 14, 2018 11:55am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    As usual a non-sequitur. What does ascribing motive have to do with the proper application or conduct of science? That is nothing but the empty headed dribbling of the toxic regressive left. If the data is wrong then by all means object or show the error, but until then the data, however ugly the picture it paints, trumps your feelings.
    
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    September 14, 2018 12:34pm
    - stephieboy
      
      UN, the data is wrong gathered by the Charles Murray’s of the world with a confirmation bias for a predetermined outcome.
      
      BTW, where does eg Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell fit into all of this?
      
      “Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
      
      ― Mark Twain
      
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      September 14, 2018 1:28pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy,FFS stop googling your plagiarism is very annoying …
        
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        September 14, 2018 1:32pm
- Inandout
  
  ‘Luther’ is smart though, his script says so. At the other end is Chris Fafoi, one clever lad. IQ is a minefield but if people are given important roles simply because they are black; this is plainly wrong. Colour placement only really works in the public service because in private enterprise they would inevitably fail.
  
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  September 14, 2018 12:19pm
  - stephieboy
    
    “Colour placement only really works in the public service because in private enterprise they would inevitably fail” ??
    
    Can you substantiate that?
    
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    September 14, 2018 12:22pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Can you refute it?
      Evidence please.
      
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      September 14, 2018 1:20pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Shaun the Sheep, give Inandout the courtesy of answering first!
        
        Manners maketh the man!
        
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        September 14, 2018 1:25pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Implying you are not a man? That’s an own goal for kiwiblog’s #1 ill-mannered troll.
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:05pm
      - Jack5
        
        There will be another 2000 posts like this as the Stephies work their way through their new Book of Quotations.
        
        The horny young Stephie who leers at young girls in the mall must have been using a bookshop as a perving pozzy.
        
        “What are you doing?” asked the shop assistant.
        “Er, I’m just going to buy this,” said Stephie X, grabbing a book – of quotations.
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:07pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Manners maketh the man
        
        Manners?
        
        As All_on_Red said about you:
        
        Well stop going around the blog smearing your shit on everyone. You never debate anything but just behave like a rude little fuck.
        
        Like above when CMM responded to your comment:
        
        You really are an odious little prick. I have spoken out against apartheid often. I am not an apartheid apologist as you have often claimed.
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:25pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        There’s the galah scattering his birdseed again.
        
        Manners maketh the man?
        
        Sigh
        
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        September 14, 2018 2:37pm
      - sooty
        
        That’s the trouble stoopid boy, you are not a man!
        
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        September 14, 2018 3:14pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus,
        
        Odious little Prick?
        
        Speak for yourself!
        
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        September 14, 2018 3:37pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Odious little Prick?
        Speak for yourself!
        
        Actually I was quoting CMM. Do try and keep up!
        
        Do you need a support person to help you get through your reading on Sunday? Just say the word and the Kiwiblog community will do its best to help!
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:09pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Another $100k pissed away by the CoL on their bullshit CTO role:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/09/govt-offers-then-withdraws-cto-role-to-derek-handley.html
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September 14, 2018 11:36am
- sooty
  
  Not his fault Clare is tits!
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:12pm
Manolo

The EU vs Hungary:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159639/Hungary-condemns-EU-decision-action-against-populist-government.html

Hungary has denounced a vote by the European Union to take action against the country’s populist government as ‘pretty revenge by pro-immigration politicians.’

European Union lawmakers voted on Wednesday to launch action against Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s government for allegedly undermining the bloc’s democratic values and rule of law.
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September 14, 2018 12:58pm
Inandout

Why change your name when your papers aren’t selling? It just further upsets readers.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12122347
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September 14, 2018 1:05pm
- VicParking
  
  If you lived down here in Fhanganui you’d understand
  
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  September 14, 2018 2:27pm
noskire

Recently, every time I see an image of Jacinda Ardern, the phrase “lie through one’s teeth” comes to mind. Not sure why.
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September 14, 2018 1:27pm
DigNap15

A guy on newstalk zb just said that we spend millions on Maori TV
That NZ on air gave money to it, and that the worst rating programs it made were on Maori tv. With 8 or 10 thousand people watching them!
And that maori tv was going to “Save the maori language”
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September 14, 2018 1:31pm
DigNap15

The Herald online has Ardern’s failure to turn up for interviews as a headline!
Very interesting from a left wing newsmedia!
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September 14, 2018 1:33pm
- sooty
  
  They are proud of that headline.
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:10pm
Jack5

Red Radio strikes gold in its series on wimmun working for the minimum wage:

“The anonymous worker says she has to try to survive on here earnings from working 20 hours a week on minimum wage, as her student visa doesn’t allow her to work more. She feels there is no other option as she can’t go home as she is gay, a dangerous thing to be in her country of birth.”

Non-white AND a lesbian – “I’ve been fighting for gay rights at home”. She says that a chef mocked her religion, too.

White-collar work in her home country has been followed by restaurant work in NZ. She attributes this change to discrimination by employers.

Your tax money is financing this stuff. Funding comes from NZ on Air.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/366357/earning-minimum-wage-and-facing-racism-sexism-and-abuse
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September 14, 2018 1:34pm
- Inandout
  
  OMG, she was short and had one leg and the wooden one had borer.
  
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  September 14, 2018 1:44pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  If she’s on a student visa won’t she have to go home when she’s completed her studies?
  
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  September 14, 2018 2:32pm
  - Jack5
    
    She’s obviously going to try for refugee status, as a foreign lesbian.
    
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    September 14, 2018 2:38pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Can’t return to country of origin for fear of persecution?
      Worked before.
      Golly will help out
      
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      September 14, 2018 3:09pm
Rodney Randall

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107088280/mosque-counselling-continues-for-teen-who-admitted-terror-plans

So not a fan of the golf lessons then.

Maybe some Stock Car Crash Up Derby at Woodford Glen Speedway?

Bring a few of the bag ladies down from the Chch Mosque.
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September 14, 2018 2:09pm
- Jack5
  
  Note the report includes:
  
  “… he has been making regular mosque visits for instruction and counselling as part of his supervision.”
  
  He planned mass murder of Christchurch people in a terrorist attack, and his sentence includes golf lessons and counselling from a mosque.
  
  The NZ justice system is a joke.
  
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  September 14, 2018 2:16pm
  - Inandout
    
    Following the UK example obviously, just further sinking into shitsville.
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:12pm
VicParking

Breaking news: Cindy’s 4pm announcement;
NZ to strike same deal as Venezuela
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/09/13/china-lend-venezuelas-5-billion-economic-meltdown/
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September 14, 2018 2:25pm
Jack5

Former Radio NZ chairman and long-time political scribbler, Dick Griffin, who had the nickname the Silver Fox, writes in Stuff about the demise of Calamity-Clare Curran.

I can’t see much new in his article, except that it reinforces my view that Wily Willie Jackson, now a Cabinet Minister, easily stitched up Griffin and his fellow Radio NZ directors by getting an agreement to Maorify the State broadcaster.

Since then Radio NZ has moved staunchly into using Maori language and backing Maori causes.

Griffin writes:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107058053/ministers-demise-a-very-public-disgrace

Wily Willie’s coup:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/media/86
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September 14, 2018 2:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hahahahaha..
  her determination to support a weak link until there was no other option has a resonance that is unlikely to damage her caring motif.
  
  We can see why Mr Griffin was a spin-doctor sans pareil.
  
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  September 14, 2018 2:51pm
krazykiwi

Email from the Taxpayer Union:

This week we were contacted by a staffer at the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment concerned about a secret new deal which sees taxpayers paying bonuses to bureaucrats for joining a union.

We have been leaked this email, from the Public Service Association to all MBIE staff. It reveals that, as a result of recent pay negotiations, MBIE will pay a one-off $500 bonus to PSA members.

Public sector workers bribed into joining the union. Utterly disgusting.
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September 14, 2018 2:51pm
- Nostradamus
  
  KrazyKiwi:
  
  The Taxpayer Union, somewhat ironically, didn’t take the point all the way to its logical conclusion:
  
  It reveals that, as a result of recent pay negotiations, ~~MBIE~~ taxpayers will pay a one-off $500 bonus to PSA members.
  
  Fixed!
  
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  September 14, 2018 2:56pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Indeed. The cycle goes something like this:
    
    Taxpayer taxes –> Employee ‘bonus’ –> Union fees –> Labour party donations
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:01pm
- ex-golfer
  
  This isn’t unusual or new.
  Another large Government agency pays an annual lump sum amount to PSA member employees as part of the collective agreement.
  The amount is generally about the same as a PSA members annual union fees – so they are essentially having their union fees repaid back to them in a taxed lump-sum payment as part of their annual package.
  
  But this is not a new thing – it has been happening for years.
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:14pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    OK – so I’ve just seen the email that was sent to MBIE staff.
    
    The $500 (gross) is clearly a bonus one-off payment made only to those that join the PSA before 20th September. It doesn’t make it clear if it will be paid to existing PSA members. It is spoken of as part of a package of gains that the PSA has won in its negotiations for the MBIE collective agreement.
    
    However, in this context it would appear to be a blatant bribe, paid by taxpayers, to get public servants to join the PSA.
    
    To me that is out and out corruption.
    The Taxpayers Association is also claiming it was signed off and approved by the Minister – whereas normally such an employment issue would be handled at management level.
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:47pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    It should be no surprise that the PSA seeks specific benefits for its members and tries to minimise the free-rider effect.
    For years, the game has been to weaken the union, but apply the pay and conditions negotiated with said weakened union to all the other staff. So if the PSA negotiate a pay rise for members, the department give the same rise to everyone else. This reduces the incentive for workers to join the union and thus weakens the overall bargaining position of all the employees.
    A one-off payment to the union members mitigates this, a little.
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:51pm
    - ex-golfer
      
      Why should the taxpayer pay the bonus payment?
      If the union wants to incentivise membership – it should either:
      – make it more attractive to become a member
      – pay the bonuses themselves – even by way of a rebate on membership dues
      
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      September 14, 2018 3:55pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        It’s part of a remuneration package negotiated with the employer. Would it be any different if the union negotiated a 1.1% pay rise instyead of a 1% granted to other employees.
        Kiwibloggers generally support individual bargaining over collective deals, so should have no difficulty in understanding that any MBIE employee can march in to the boss and demand to renegotiate his or her own contract to include the extra $500.
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:01pm
      - ex-golfer
        
        I would have no problem with them negotiating a 1.1% increase. But in this case they have negotiated a one-off lump-sum gross payment paid only on condition of joining the PSA.
        That is not an employment package negotiation – it is a bribe.
        As I say – if this is what the PSA needs to encourage membership, maybe they need to take a look at how ineffectual they are at attracting members and do something about it, rather than off-loading the cost onto taxpayers.
        
        I admire you defending the indefensible – I would make a calculated guess that you are a delegate.
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Everything a public sector union gets for its members is a cost ‘off-loaded’ onto taxpayers.
        You want to call a one-off payment a ‘bribe’. MBIE and the PSA would probably call it an incentive for members as they develop a more productive relationship between the department and its staff.
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:12pm
    - rangitoto
      
      This is just a blatant Liarbore party fund raising excercise.
      
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      September 14, 2018 4:23pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        The PSA doesn’t affiliate with, or make contributions to, any political party. Never has.
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:33pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Also, bonus points for the Taxpayers’ ‘Union’ criticising an actual union.
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:55pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    So you would support public servants being paid a one-off bonus to join the Taxpayers Union, should they elect to do so?
    
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    September 14, 2018 4:11pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Why would anyone want to join the Taxpayers’ ‘Union’? It doesn’t need many members to astroturf.
      
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      September 14, 2018 4:15pm
ex-golfer

4pm announcement:
1. Whaitiri sacked?
2. Cabinet reshuffle to be announced next week?
3. Jacinda taking extended leave from PM and handing reigns to Winston?
4. ??
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September 14, 2018 3:05pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  She said she was here for a good time not a long time, and the gloss is wearing off.
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:12pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    She’s obviously discovered that student politics is not a reflection of reality in adult-land.
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:16pm
sooty

My staff are useless! Cindy says, that they are tits!
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September 14, 2018 3:06pm
noskire

Here’s a question to the Prime Minister for Simon Bridges next Tuesday:
Has former-Green MP Metiria Leanne Agnes Stanton Turei been involved in any paid role in one of the Government’s working groups or committees this year?
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September 14, 2018 3:23pm
Fletch

Creepy Porn Lawyer, Michael Avenatti actually fronts on Tucker Carlson’s show a few hours ago. Things go as well as you’d expect…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxjOEbvdDc8
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September 14, 2018 3:39pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Is he something to do with that Creepy Porn President?
  
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  September 14, 2018 3:46pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yep, Avenatti does intend to run for president – or so he is hinting…
    
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    September 14, 2018 3:49pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It’s America, anyone can run for president.
      
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      September 14, 2018 3:53pm
      - Jack5
        
        Don’t presidential candidates have to be US-born?
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:03pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Kenyan’s also acceptable. Apparently.
        
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        September 14, 2018 4:10pm
DigNap15

National has been fairly quite this week
Are they
1) Useless
2) Just letting Labour hang themselves?
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September 14, 2018 4:09pm
- ex-golfer
  
  “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
  – Boneparte
  
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  September 14, 2018 4:18pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

No traditional 4pm Labour turd-dump today?
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September 14, 2018 4:26pm
- MrTips
  
  They’ve been dumping all week.
  
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  September 14, 2018 4:30pm
- ex-golfer
  
  They got in early with the Handley golden parachute announcement. Obviously Ardern didn’t want her feet held to the flames about it over the weekend.
  
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  September 14, 2018 4:32pm
ex-golfer

Little: $1.5 million for a justice summit
Hipkins: Hold my chardonnay

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/-3m-spent-government-two-education-summits
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September 14, 2018 4:56pm
- DigNap15
  
  Wait till we find out what all the other workshops, working groups, meetings and huis cost over the next few years!
  If Ardern is upset, I am livid.
  
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  September 14, 2018 5:22pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Just wait until Megan Woods gets to host her own summit. The catering bill for pies, plus sausage rolls, plus organic carrot sticks for greenie types, will be eyewatering!
  
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  September 14, 2018 6:16pm
  - itstricky
    
    I’m beginning to think Keeping Stock is upticking these, rather than reprimanding. Oh well, I’ll sit here and wait for him still.
    
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    September 14, 2018 6:36pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      *I’ll sit here”
      
      Good idea. You probably weren’t doing anything productive anyway!
      
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      September 14, 2018 6:42pm
      - itstricky
        
        You probably weren’t doing anything productive anyway
        
        True right. Never do anything productive. At any given stage, according to starboard, I am:
        
        – beating my wife;
        – constrained in a prison cell;
        – smoking weed; or
        – immobile because I’ve just been run over (this one seems to be a particularly disturbing fantasy of his. At least he hasn’t gone sexual and all goat on me, I suppose).
        
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        September 14, 2018 6:46pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        So you’re saying that Starboard knows you quite well?
        
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        September 14, 2018 6:51pm
      - itstricky
        
        I’d say he’s peeping through the curtains in my bedroom window as we speak.
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:01pm
      - nasska
        
        Be afraid! Be very afraid! 🙂
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:03pm
      - starboard
        
        Yeah I can see ya, I didn’t realise you and MM were a couple, and that you were the receiver..heh.
        
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        September 15, 2018 12:03am
DigNap15

Maori language funding failing

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106989350/a-desperate-situation-why-te-reo-maori-funding-is-failing.

We must be spending millions on this rubbish.
All it does is give jobs to people who may not get one in the real world.

I’d like to see that funding go towards getting Maori to speak English properly, and learn science and maths.

As well as social skills to get them out of the gutter. Tourists that come here cannot believe how poorly Maori present themselves, as well as the crime they commit
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- itstricky
  
  Tourists that come here cannot believe how poorly Maori present themselves
  
  What, you mean Lauren Southern and Sefan whats-his-foreign-language-name?
  
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  September 14, 2018 6:40pm
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    No, The tourists that come here to spend money and get beaten up and robbed by ill-speaking Maori.
    
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    September 14, 2018 6:56pm
    - realityczech
      
      If we don’t like it then we can always piss off back to our own countries. But I do tend to agree with you, as would many Maori.
      
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      September 14, 2018 6:58pm
      - starboard
        
        NZ is our fucking country and nobody will be pissing off anytime soon. Pooys can paddle off back to the shithole they came from and on the way past the Chathams, call in and apologise for near wiping out the Moriori .
        
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        September 14, 2018 7:38pm
      - realityczech
        
        So just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the Jews turning up 3000 years latter to reclaim some land their ancestors lived on, briefly, after immigrating from Egypt?
        
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        September 14, 2018 7:41pm
      - Jack5
        
        ‼Kearealityczech‼ Back from the mountains, old parrot? Welcome.
        
        Was this the dance you went to at Arthur’s Pass? ?
        
        https://youtu.be/-oCstfrjb_E
        
        Or did you drop in on the Stephieboys’ hooley:
        
        https://youtu.be/AxSWVkPfVc8
        
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        September 14, 2018 8:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, pretty shit dance bro, where are the bitches ?
        
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        September 14, 2018 8:13pm
      - Jack5
        
        You forgot, ❗KRC❗. Bloody hell!
        
        You were supposed to bring them.
        
        As a last resort, ya coulda borrowed the Stephiestani goats.
        
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        September 14, 2018 8:27pm
      - itstricky
        
        You’re into the goats with Nostradamus and starboard as well, then?
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:04pm
      - starboard
        
        Go home and bash ya wife again, sticky.
        
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        September 15, 2018 12:01am
    - itstricky
      
      The tourists that come here to spend money and get beaten up and robbed by ill-speaking Maori
      
      So one person a year, then. You make it sound like every tourist that comes here has something bad to say about every Maori person they meet in the street.
      
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      September 14, 2018 9:03pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        More than one.
        Theft at tourist spots is also a prevalent.
        That hits not just overseas tourists but NZers.
        More than a few overseas tourists have gone home and said bad things about crime in NZ
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:11pm
      - itstricky
        
        I have no doubt that crime affects tourism. I have seen no information about any rates of increase for tourist related crime so couldn’t comment on that.
        
        But whatever the case, NZ has a generally good international profile and DigNap’s original statements suggesting that large numbers of tourists come here and are beaten and robbed by Maori people seems completely far fetched.
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:53pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I think it’s fair to say there are a few Commentators
        who whilst they might be right that Maori are committing most of that crime but the glee and emphasis with which they report it comes across as just blatantly racist.
        
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        September 14, 2018 10:01pm
      - starboard
        
        Stop being an apologist for maori crime. You know and I know that the majority are violent thugs..just look inside any prison. Its a fuckin fact.
        
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        September 14, 2018 11:59pm
      - itstricky
        
        the glee and emphasis with which they report it
        
        Pretty much how I see his royal goat-glory-hole-ness.
        
        We agree upon something.
        
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        September 16, 2018 8:43pm
ex-golfer

I didn’t think the left were in favour of firing people at will???
At least with National, Handley would have been given a 90 day trial period!
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September 14, 2018 5:27pm
realityczech

Gosh I hope everything is alright at home. Especially as work has turned to a shower of shit 🙂

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern cancels weekend media appearances

She is finished. She acts and looks like the walking dead.
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September 14, 2018 5:57pm
starboard

**MAORI CRIME WEEK**
Case 150
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/107077862/panic-buttons-security-staff-considered-for-south-auckland-bus-routes-after-drivers-attacked.

Quell surprise. Why no panic buttons on say, Newmarket route, or Royal Oak route?? I’ll tell you why…..we know, dont we.
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September 14, 2018 7:13pm
- realityczech
  
  Because they get paid enough to live on in those areas?
  
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  September 14, 2018 7:17pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Shouldn’t this be Case # 153?
  
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  September 14, 2018 7:28pm
  - starboard
    
    Correct.
    
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    September 14, 2018 7:40pm
Jack5

The Stuff newspaper chain has stepped up its campaign against fertilising our farms with phosphate from the disputed region of Morocco.

Stuff has now published an editorial opposing the imports, and quoted one Erik Hagen, of Western Saharan Resource Watch.

And our own Socialist Cindy’s name comes into the discussion, mentioning the region’s inhabitants:

“…the people whose suffering was witnessed first-hand by our prime minister during a visit in 2008.

And of course, global warming:

The Productivity Commission has signalled the need for dramatic land-use shifts and changes in primary production to combat climate change.

NZ for 40 or so years has been in a deficit on balance of payments. Kill our present farming, and what export industries will save the country economically?

Stuff the NZ arm of Fairfax, has become the voice of the Left-Green faction.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107058149/editorial-doing-whats-right-for-everyone
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September 14, 2018 8:03pm
- realityczech
  
  Yes how dare those cheeky darkies engage in business like that !
  
  It is just part of their campaign to attack farmers so they are more accepting of Labour’s policies.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    ????
    
    Who are you calling “cheeky darkies”, ❗KRC?❗
    
    The Moroccans? The displaced desert folk? The whities of Stuff?
    
    We grounded plebs don’t have the mountain parrots’ sonar direction finding.
    
    You’re not still sore about high country farmers culling keas all those years ago?
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:18pm
    - realityczech
      
      Don’t get your side locks in a tangle this Shabbat Jacksie. Eat your fish and go easy on the wine this time.
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:26pm
nasska

Personally, I could care less about Morocco & their political problems. We buy phosphate from a source sanctioned by their government in a similar way as we buy poorly manufactured crap from China whose politics we don’t endorse.

Of more concern is the contaminants in the phosphate. Phosphate rock is not a pure source of phosphorus…..it contains nasties such as cadmium, fluorine & uranium. While these are present in small quantities they can build up in our soil.

I don’t pretend to know the answer & the problem isn’t peculiar to NZ. If the world is to feed itself phosphorous levels in pastoral & agricultural soil must be maintained. Going Green isn’t an option because there is no natural alternative to phosphate fertiliser.

But some knowall will hold up a placard outside parliament & convince the halfwits to pass another half baked law or introduce another tax.
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September 14, 2018 8:35pm
- realityczech
  
  “nasties such as cadmium, fluorine & uranium”
  
  Naturally occurring and harmless at those levels. A bit like your beloved Sodium fluoroacetate – except that does not occur naturally.
  
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  September 14, 2018 8:39pm
  - rangitoto
    
    It occurs in many plants including Camellia Sinensis. Enjoy your tea Kea.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:43pm
    - realityczech
      
      Not it that form. Enjoy a knife in your head. Knives are harmless.
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:48pm
    - Jack5
      
      Are you saying, Rangitoto, that if you drink enough tea, you don’t need to add fluoride to the water?
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:48pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Naturally occurring and harmless at those levels”…..
    
    Yes…..especially in our new volcanic soils. But the levels are rising & will eventually become a problem. Neither you nor I will be around when it becomes critical but it is only a matter of time before some deranged Greenie uses the risks to clobber our agrarian industries.
    
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    September 14, 2018 8:50pm
    - realityczech
      
      We can mine the uranium etc as a sideline to cow farming 🙂
      
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      September 14, 2018 8:55pm
      - sooty
        
        Have to keep that nucular power station running that we are going to need when we run out of gas and electricty.
        
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        September 14, 2018 9:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Perhaps we could just dig our poo back into our paddocks and forget the super P.
  
  We could all save up a years’ supply of number 2s and then donate our deposits to our local cockies.
  
  In Auckland the Council could run a night-cart system on the new tram line and shunt the day’s doings down to the Waikato or the Pukekohe spud fields.
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:37pm
  - Jack5
    
    We could poo collectors to the list of sought skills in the NZ visa schedule, and build up a class of Untouchables from India to manage the new national sewage-to-farms system.
    
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    September 14, 2018 10:09pm
Jack5

More than two dozen maternity units in British Columbia are catering for “birth tourism” from China.

This is Chinese women flying to Canada to give birth so that their children will have Canadian citizenship.

And opponents of the trading are citing New Zealand as the way to handle it:

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2164146/chinese-birth-tourism-canada-isnt-loophole-grey-area
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September 14, 2018 8:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Has Jacinda been telling lies about the Derek Handley appointment?

Read the comments in Pete George’s posting
https://yournz.org/2018/09/14/handley-de-jobbed-compensated-more-awkward-questions/#comments
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September 14, 2018 9:08pm
- realityczech
  
  “Has Jacinda been telling lies”
  
  Is this a trick question?
  
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  September 14, 2018 9:28pm
Fletch

EXCLUSIVE: Labour-Led Government Give Taxpayer-Funded Bonus To Union Mates

The Taxpayers’ Union can reveal the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment is using taxpayer money to bribe workers into joining the Public Service Association.

The following email was circulated to all MBIE staff and has been passed on to the Taxpayers’ Union. It reveals that, as a result of recent pay negotiations, MBIE will be paying a one-off $500 bonus to members of the PSA.

More – https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/labours_union_payback
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- realityczech
  
  LOL 🙂 I see what they did there.
  
  In actual fact – this is about PSA members, who paid their fees and negotiated, getting a little bit more than those who contributed nothing.
  
  It is pure free market stuff, not hand outs to bludgers .
  
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