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mandk

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/08/patrick-gower-was-not-destroyed-by-lauren-southern-and-stefan-molyneux.html
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August 8, 2018 8:01am
duggledog

We can see now how devastatingly effective language manipulation and long term, relentless repetition of lies can be, when left unchallenged.

Don Brash made a speech about equal rights for all races, in line with the ToW and basic democracy – essentially he made a challenge to racist privilege.

Over nearly 15 years years, this high-achieving, highly-regarded NZer’s reputation has been steadily distilled right down into one word: Racist. It now defines him. They pulled it off, no question.

Ask the guy with the stop/go sign at the road works to describe Don Brash in one word, he’ll tell you.
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August 8, 2018 8:01am
- hullkiwi
  
  Yes and on Red Radio this morning, that was the sentiment of Hone Hariwera about Brash & concurring with the decision of Thomas. On another note it is good to hear Up a Debating Society are standing firm with regards to their invitation to Brash.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:06am
  - Chris R
    
    Hullkiwi:It is reassuring that once again I do not agree with Hone Hariwera. Dr Brash is the epitome of a thinking person who is NOT a racist or a bigot. Hone’s fundamental persona is that of a racist and a bigot. Let him be that. What is deeply disturbing for thinking Kiwis is that the VC of one of our Universities bandies about terms like racism, terrorism as though they are interchangeable with pondered thoughts and philosophy. NZ is losing its soul to the hordes of ranters and thugs who occupy our streets, our workplaces and now our Universities. What is worse is that we have an idiot for a PM who doesn’t (simply doesn’t!) understand. The Dark Ages are here!
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:26am
    - Paulus
      
      Who appoints such a stupid person – isn’t she an Australian which could account for her bigotry.
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:30am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      And of all the opponents to Brash scream “racism” and shriek that he is wrong, but I have yet to hear any of his opponents explain why they think he is racist (which he isn’t).
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:41pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    If I was the stop go man and was asked to describe Hariwera in one word, that word would be racist as well.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:30am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      The Maori with whom I am acquainted describe Hone Harawira as a racist, thuggish, c–t. Like the rest of his family. I’m inclined to agree although I fully support Harawira’s right to perpetuate that image.
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:44am
    - Fletch
      
      It reminds me when columnist Garth George (now, sadly deceased) opined in the Herald –
      
      Hone Harawira was born angry, from the womb of an angry woman.
      
      Probably wouldn’t get away with printing something like that today.
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:48am
  - KevOB
    
    Hone Harawira calling the kettle black?
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:54am
  - softail 1450
    
    Hone Harawhira and his whanau are without doubt the most racist, white man hating group in our country, he’s also one of the biggest troughers in history.
    Harawhira once called all white folk “motherfuckers”
    he’s a Maori racist fuck…
    
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    August 9, 2018 6:36am
- hullkiwi
  
  Over the past week my wife and I have been confronted by the amount of propaganda masquerading as education being fed to our son.
  
  The first instance occured when he said he couldn’t have a glass of soft drink because it was too much sugar. We then had to talk our son through what he had eaten/drunk that day, so that he could see he had had very little sugar. In this instance what is galling is our son is 9 1/2, is 1 metre 37 and is skinny as – not over weight by any stretch.
  
  The second instance was last night after a supermarket ad, informing viewers that in 2 weeks time they will be stopping single use plastic bags. Our son saw this as Good, because of the environment etc. Once again his understanding had been informed by what he was being told (as learning) at school. Again, we had to point out that what he has been ” taught” is not as cut and dry as it might seem and in fact despite the propaganda the only single use plastic bags are the council rubbish sacks (you buy from supermarkets etc.) or plastic bin liners you buy from the shops and that reusable bags or paper bags are possibly just as harmful to the environment.
  
  Coming back to my point though, in this age of politically correct speech and thought, I find it frightening how much propaganda is fed to children who are as yet too young to question the validity of what they are being told. Certainly, in our home we encourage our child to question, but what of those homes where the family do not question what they are told?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:38am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Daughter has had to sit through several lectures on “white privilege and systemic racism in NZ” as part of her tertiary course. She laughed it off as complete bullshit but most telling, a Maori classmate was in total disbelief of it all and couldn’t believe they had the front to push this crap.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:51am
    - JIV
      
      I think the generation going through school at the moment are a little more savvy than the 20 somethings. They dont seem to be sucked in to the green propaganda and are happy to make up their own minds. Our boy’s school even had a debate about the existence of AGW. Surely that would have been shut down at Massey
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:07am
  - KevOB
    
    It’s a constant war to protect our children against ~~teachers~~ alarmists and propagandists.
    When they are constantly told that the earth will burn up in 50 years if sacrifices are not made at Green direction why should their mental health be of concern?
    Allowing scaremongering is a dereliction of duty by Government.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:04am
    - Miritu
      
      It is educational malpractice.
      http://nostateeducation.com
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:24am
  - JIV
    
    Im so glad my kids are now out of Primary School and they enjoy secondary school so much more. Mainly because they’re actually learning something.
    We had a holiday at the Great Barrier Reef and our nephew said he learnt about it in his primary school. I asked did he learn about the intricate ecosystem and wonders of nature. No he replied, just the fact the reef is dying because of global warming and we need to act now.
    The part of the reef we visited, that had heavy tourist traffic, was beautiful with no bleaching and teemed with wildlife.
    
    Why dont primary schools teach kids?? Teach them some maths, english, science and language other than Maori?
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:04am
  - Liberty
    
    It is now too PC for teachers to sort out pupils who are being little shits.
    But they are free to molest their minds with their left wing agenda.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:26am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I admire Brash and the Hobson’s Pledge itself is very reasonable and most NZers would agree with it. But if you have a group like this you absolutely must keep the nuts out, or ensure what they say is not linked to your group in any way. Otherwise the media will seize on the crazy stuff and use it to demonize the whole thing.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:38am
waikatogirl

Paula Bennett on the AM show this morning is well worth a listen to. She blasts those trying to shut down free speech and freedom of expression.
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August 8, 2018 8:03am
- G152
  
  Funny as to how there was a threat as claimed by the head of the university that was so scary she didn’t bother to tell the police..
  Methinks a reduction in taxpayers funding Massey would be a good idea
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:19am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Anyone know how is the police investigation into the death threats made to the racist Davidson are progressing?
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:35am
    - Piniwi
      
      Well PG judging by the vile language chosen lately by her not too well we must imagine. She is one very screwed up individual which might be evidence of having to live having only a minority native blood level. While struggling to understand the origin of the greater portion pumping through her veins. It must pay heavy on her psyche.
      
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      August 8, 2018 12:59pm
    - softail 1450
      
      P G, undoubtedly “conversations” are being had.
      
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      August 9, 2018 6:40am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Ms Thomas told media that the Police were notified of threats of violence. The Police say there was no such notification from Massey.
    
    Someone’s not telling the truth, and I don’t think it’s the NZ Police. Ms Thomas should resign.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:51am
    - KevOB
      
      The reports from Thomas are inconsistent with her being reputedly honest. She affirmed she made the decision herself without consulting security and did not allude to any such concern.
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:09am
  - hullkiwi
    
    The interesting thing about the threat as reported on Red Radio. The post on the Facebook page that carried the threat of carrying a weapon to the Brash event eminated from NORWAY!
    
    Says it all about Thomas & her followers.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:57am
    - 3-coil
      
      hullkiwi – National Radio this morning also reported supporters of Massey Uni VC Jan Thomas bleating: what about her right to “free speech” wrt her banning of Don Brash from the Massey speaking appointment!
      
      The (lack of) intellect of some moronic lefties is beyond belief!
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:27am
      - hullkiwi
        
        3-coil, I agree with you. With the case of Thomas, it is not surprising when you have the likes of Paul Spoonley as one of Massey’s Pro-VCs also. Spoonley typifies the the thinking of the loony left. If, you caught the TV1 Sunday programme on Southern & Molyneaux, you will have heard Spoonley talk about “white colonial middle class guilt and the problems that causes in ethnic communities. When you get that emminating from the mouth of a “Distinguished Professor” on public TV you have to question what is being fed as academic learning to students at Massey.
        
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        August 8, 2018 10:34am
      - Jack5
        
        Spoonley is a sociologist who Massey touts as one of New Zealand’s leading academics. That is debatable. But Spoonley is New Zealand’s leading multiculturist.
        
        Spoonley has been a guest speaker at the Metropolis Conference in the Netherlands. This was organised by the International Metropolis Project, a network of researchers, officials, and NGOs who want to “enhance” migration and diversity policies.
        
        Spoonley is proud that in 2013, he was a visiting fellow at the Max Planck Institute of Religious and Ethnic Diversity in Goettingen.
        
        Here’s how this institute describes itself:
        
        Max Planck Institute is primarily concerned with research into various forms of diversity. In today’s societies, people of varying ethnic and religious backgrounds often live side by side. The spectrum ranges from peaceful multiculturalism to bloody conflict – but when does the one occur and when the other? Through wide-ranging empirical studies and by developing theoretical concepts, the Göttingen-based Institute seeks to broaden our understanding of these issues of human coexistence. The main focus of this work is on basic research, but in some instances it extends as far as advising on political policy.”
        
        Perhaps the institute influenced Merkel the Mad in her invitation for a million refugees, an invitation that is tearing the EC apart.
        
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        August 8, 2018 11:58am
      - axeman
        
        Has anyone ever seen the snarky arsewipe Psycho Much and Spoonley in the same room?
        
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        August 8, 2018 10:00pm
- dime
  
  Paula Bennett – this is the chick who swore she would find whatever law she could to nail those people with the camper vans. wicked campers.
  
  cause as you know, Paula doesn’t offend easily, but that van with the led zeppelin lyric was just too much.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:46am
  - Jack5
    
    The totalitarians try to devalue the case of freedom of speech on political issues by equating it with freedom of speech in advertising slogans on camper vans.
    
    What if the camper vans had put up slogans attacking or belittling Islam? The totalitarians would then be right behind the Islamicists.
    
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    August 8, 2018 1:53pm
    - dime
      
      you’ve lost me. I just think she’s a full of shit hypocrite
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:19pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Dime – that is quite a different matter.
    If consenting adults choose to go along and hear a speech on a topic that interests them, or read a newspaper, or see a film, no one has the right to prevent them.
    The Wicked Campers’ slogan were a public billboard, often using language and themes not best suited for general exhibition. If WC want to express those views they should make sure the audience wants to hear them, and many folk said they didn’t so Bennett acted at the request of the electorate.
    The difference lies in the ability to choose to hear those views or not.
    
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    August 8, 2018 7:35pm
Lee C

The guy at the stop sign can say what he likes, and I feel privileged to live in a society that allows me to hear him and challenge him about it.
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August 8, 2018 8:03am
mandk

Gower doth protest too much, methinks:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/08/patrick-gower-was-not-destroyed-by-lauren-southern-and-stefan-molyneux.html

Let me help you here, Paddy.

If you put up defences like this, you have already lost.

All you will do is encourage people to check out your interview with Southern and Molyneux,

And they will see that, yes, they made you look like a lightweight.

If it had been a boxing match, the referee would have stopped the contest to save you from further punishment.
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August 8, 2018 8:03am
- Doug
  
  Poor Paddy lives in an alternate world as do most Media types. He can shout as much as he likes but no one is listening.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:11am
  - KevOB
    
    They don’t like Jacinda competing against them for attention either.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:11am
- Simon
  
  Yep diversity of opinion was a bit too much for Gower.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:18am
- Chris R
  
  What the Canadians revealed is that Gower doesn’t have an interviewing style or method. He is simply a loudmouth who believes that talking over and down to people is a technique. it isn’t! An interviewer is there to discover others’ thinking and choices. In other words, the task is beyond Gower I understand Lindsay Perigo has offered to debate the Canadians with Gower, as of yesterday Gower hasn’t responded. I doubt he will.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:33am
  - yossarian
    
    It was Gowers “Cathy Newman” moment, and he will always be tarred with this.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:16am
  - G152
    
    A face made for radio
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:57am
- dime
  
  the twitter stuff around this is hilarious. ya have a lot of people watching from overseas who have been laughing at him, calling him a lightweight.. “whos this idiot?” etc etc
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:48am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Check out the look on Gower’s face at the end of this video clip. He was completely and utterly defeated.
  
  https://twitter.com/CaolanRob/status/1026002027938103296
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:57am
  - Ross12
    
    You Gower has hit the big time for all the wrong reasons when Paul Joseph Watson has found about his disaster –sorry interview. PJW has tweeted out on Gowers attempted “defence” , laughing his head off.
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:28pm
    - axeman
      
      Gower has been busy trying to deflect from his horrendous performance.
      
      One would think that someone with his ‘experience’ in political commentary would know that EXPLAINING IS LOSING 😉
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:07pm
- howitis
  
  Even when the media largely control the output, Gower still looks like a major Dickhead.
  
  Imagine how bad this ning nong really is without the regular filter, protection, and bullying bitch-slap of the MSM sisterhood.
  The only skillset Gower appears to have is to dig holes, and keep digging.
  Now Stefan, tell us about low IQ people again.
  Please!
  
  Gower- not in the sports section, the business section, but the entertainment section.
  At least something good came from last week’s all out assault on free speech.
  …A good laugh AT Gower.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:25am
  - Tamati2
    
    Howitis
    If you want a good laugh at Gower’s expense check this out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSfHIPnupY&feature=youtu.be
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:41am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Thanks Tamati2 for posting “What we learned from Lauren & Stefan’s Australian/NZ tour”.
      
      Well worth the watch of an outsiders view of NZ and his critique of the appalling Paddy Gower’s total failure to interview the Canadian speakers. NZ lefty media, and our own lefty-in-charge Cindy getting the slap they both deserve…
      
      I haven’t ever laughed, and at the same time, been totally ashamed of a some Kiwis’ ? ? ?
      
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      August 8, 2018 4:38pm
      - howitis
        
        Thanks Tamati and WGrl
        That was worth it.
        
        27 mins
        The 22 min mark is the best –
        Gower: They totally nailed me. I could not compete with them.
        Later:-
        Gower: I didn’t even know what they were saying.
        a) he would not listen, and
        b) Gower is too bloody thick.
        I turned off this dirtbag years ago so not sure what world he is in.
        Not one I want to be in.
        
        That whole little world a few years ago at TV3 with Garner. Espiner, Campbell, and Gower was pretty sick. Half of them are gone.
        They can close the 100% overseas owned outfit down today for all I care.
        We taxpayers are paying $400,000 per week via NZ on Air to keep TV3 going.
        This in money that could be used wisely elsewhere like nurses etc…anybody but these asses.
        This is the first time I ever saw that TV show. What a pack of bobbleheads. Just Yuk!
        
        The You tube channel has 319,000 subscribers so way more than ever watch TV3 (fake) news, plus there will be more who watch and don’t subscribe.
        
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        August 8, 2018 8:08pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The problem with living in left wing echo-chamber chambers, like all religions, is that anytime true believers with all their irrational priors and articles of faith venture out into the real world they discover that they are entirely defenceless against people whose arguments are grounded in reality and science.
  
  Their answer is to build their walls higher and ban thought crime.
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:16pm
- Nermal
  
  One reason I love the printed word is that I neither have to listen to, nor watch, Paddy Gower
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:06pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  News hub might reconsider using such a pugilistic headline as “Paddy Gower takes on Southern & Molyneux” when he just didn’t have the intellect or attitude to keep up with either of them, or the sense to shut up and let them speak.
  
  Not destroyed?
  Yes Paddy
  Sure Paddy
  *snigger*
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:52pm
holysheet

Many years ago during my married days, I accidentally overturned my golf cart. Elizabeth, a very attractive and keen golfer, who lived in a villa on the golf course, heard the noise and called out: “Are you okay? What’s your name?” “It’s John, and I’m okay, thanks,” I replied as I pulled myself out of the twisted cart. “John,” she said, (firm loose breasts undulating beneath her white silky robe) “forget your troubles. Come to my villa, rest a while and I’ll help you get the cart up later.” “That’s mighty nice of you,” I answered, “but I don’t think my wife would like it.” “Oh, come on now,” Elizabeth insisted. She was so very pretty, very very sexy and very persuasive … I was weak. “Well okay,” I finally agreed but thought to myself, “my wife won’t like it.” After a couple of restorative Scotch and waters, I thanked Elizabeth. “I feel a lot better now, but I know my wife is going to be really upset. So I’d best go now.” “Don’t be silly!” Elizabeth said with a smile, letting her robe fall open slightly. “She won’t know anything. By the way, where is she?” “Still under the cart, I guess.”
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August 8, 2018 8:05am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Like your work, Holy
  Have a great day.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:47am
softail 1450

Wether you like Alex Jones or hate him he’s now been banned from the internet on the same day by Facebook,Google ,Twitter,etc etc,
Worldwide censorship is now a reality ,conservative views are the target and it will only get more rabid as time goes by ….this started with trump beating that corrupt hag Clinton and this is the liberal lefty globalist answer ,ban the right from having a say…
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August 8, 2018 8:06am
- cmm
  
  These self-proclamed bastions of the left have scored an own goal.
  
  The alternate social media platforms: gab, bitchute and others have been struggling to gain traction.
  
  Suddenly 2.5 million Alex Jones fans have finally got a nudge to go over to bitchute, Gab and other more open platforms and are finding a breath of fresh air.
  
  Facebook and Twitter are on the skids. Now it is just going to get worse for them.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:24am
  - softail 1450
    
    cmm ,I’d pay good money to witness the downfall of those corrupt organisations, you’ve just got to look at zuckerburg appearing before the US congress like a little toupee wearing soyboy snowflake to realize where his political leanings are,this is a dangerous situation for free thinking folk when less than a 100 human beings are going to control what we see,hear,or even say about anything, the prime minister of Hungary is a man to be admired ,his views are similar to trumps but he’s a lot smarter…
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:36am
    - Harkman
      
      Agreed Facebook is for total losers. Ironically, this might push the right to regulate social media in the US.
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:41am
      - dime
        
        its a matter of time until facebook and the like are deemed utilities. no political bias will be tolerated.
        
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        August 8, 2018 8:49am
    - cmm
      
      Keep your money and spend it on popcorn!
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:54am
- KevOB
  
  The implications of this ban are profound. How many of us are tracked by Google and others? (there are 8 blocked as I post).
  
  If this ban is enlarged data facilities could be cut off too putting accounting and other uses at risk.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:22am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Search using: DuckDuckGo
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:58pm
    - KevOB
      
      I an well secured. Both of these are free:-
      StartPage has its own internal proxy so Google has no idea whose query it is responding to.
      
      Ghostery blocks trackers with minimal nuisance.
      
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      August 8, 2018 5:43pm
- Miritu
  
  This trend won’t end well. Yes, private companies are free to censor, but it will ultimately cost them, (unless they get state help to entrench their position).
  Discrimination based on opinion now seems acceptable, so what’s ahead? Phone and power companies disconnecting you, health providers turning you away, airlines denying you passage….
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:42am
Justitia

Good morning. Could someone kindly post the Leader of the Opposition’s statement or statements condemning the shutting down of free speech in this country? No doubt his Office has issued a formal statement on the appalling banning of his predecessor Dr Brash by the VC of Massey? I feel certain Simon Bridges will also have taken the PM to task for her dog whistle encouragement of the thuggery that shut down the two Canadians? So far I haven’t had any luck finding these statements but they must be out there somewhere?
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August 8, 2018 8:06am
- Inandout
  
  Paula grew some this morning and blasted the VC at Massey.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:18am
  - Justitia
    
    I am faint with admiration…
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:20am
- BlueGriffon
  
  Here’s a statement, see the lefty pile on in the comments. The poor guy can’t win at the moment!
  https://mobile.twitter.com/simonjbridges/status/1026656496115888129
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:19am
  - Justitia
    
    Thanks BlueGriffon. But that’s just a social media burp. I’m looking for a formal condemnation freighted with gravitas that leaves no doubt where he stands and gets international attention.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:25am
    - wiseowl
      
      At least Boris is not backing down on likening women in Burkas to letterboxes.
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:51am
      - KevOB
        
        They are disturbing that way.
        
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        August 8, 2018 9:24am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Look, many of us are not part of the twitterati ! His efforts appear lackadaisical and half hearted. He has to man up and be noticed…if that involves being controversial( gasp!)..then DO IT!
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:25am
  - cmm
    
    Sorry Simon, you can’t win by out-pussying the lefties. Trudeau already owns that space.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:25am
    - sooty
      
      No. But he could out ball them!
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:51am
      - cmm
        
        Right now he’s being outballed by Bennet and Collins.
        
        Having met Amy Adams a few times I know she could outball him too, but Amy’s just too damn polite.
        
        Sad.
        
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        August 8, 2018 10:55am
      - Bullion
        
        I think Judith ‘fake news’ Collins is not the leader you are looking for.
        
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        August 8, 2018 1:55pm
Nukuleka

I have no doubt that the Vice Chancellor of Massey University was emboldened in her decision to ban Don Brash by Jacinda Ardern’s support for the thugs who managed to shut down the Southern/ Molyneux speaking event. I would rejoice to see Simon Bridges and the National Party as a whole take the PM to task for her confused attitude to free speech but given Bridges’ own dithering commitment to free speech and lack of any fire in his belly I fear I am to be bitterly disappointed.
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August 8, 2018 8:09am
- softail 1450
  
  Nukuleka, Bridges is a nice man but utterly useless for the leaders job, tough times are heading our way and we need an oposition leader thats not afraid to slap the shit out of a hopeless out of depth
  coalition of moronic clowns…..
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:16am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yeah but….. take a look at duggledog’s first up post here today.
    I can see why Mr Bridges might be tentative about what he says. Reputation trashed over very little for Mr Brash.
    I think Bridges is doing the right thing by going round the regions speaking to ordinary people and trying to gain their trust and respect – frustrating though it is that he seems to have little cut through on some issues.
    If he can connect with the hard working, productive and emotionally stable people in the provinces then there will be opportunities for him to be an effective leader.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:34am
    - Komata
      
      GR
      
      ‘Hi, I’m Simon; you might remember me from such thing as my complete lack of intention and guts to face-up to the coalition that is curently controlling New Zealand and to hold them to account for the disaster they are making of my country. Actually, I agree with most of what they say…’
      
      Far easier to swan around the countryside doing meets and greets.
      
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      August 8, 2018 12:57pm
- howitis
  
  Bridges.
  Forever a day late and dollar short.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:06am
backster

I think that alt Marxist Vice Chancellor should be deported back to Australia as an undesirable migrant. I see her actions as part of an international socialist tactic which she and Goof are party to, and the mass media are complicit to.
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August 8, 2018 8:10am
- igm
  
  They are the types who supported Obama . . . he who now champions ANC in expropriation of white farms in South Africa without compensation. I was furious to see the left fawning over this apparition and damn annoyed at Key for his part in the recent visit here.
  Where is the coverage of this disaster by MSM, or are they being told by our current rulers’ union masters to bin reports?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:19am
Poppa

Alas we are all doomed!!

Some would be scientists have predicted that the world will be destroyed by sea level rise. No not 1 metre as previously predicted, but 60 metres!!

And these people really think we should believe them. The earth is flat as well I guess

Why the media would repeat this crap is beyond me, other than filling up space
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August 8, 2018 8:11am
- skyblue
  
  At least if the world was flat the excess water will fall off the sides.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:17am
  - sooty
    
    Just think of all them saliors falling to their death.
    Just as well no countrys bordered the edge, No need to hang them, just chuck them over the edge.
    What would happen to an areoplane flying over the edge?
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:01am
    - skyblue
      
      Like now, they keep flying until the fuel runs out.
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:32am
- Justitia
  
  Panic about climate change, which I don’t doubt is occurring – it always has, is a gift to Marxists. Fear of climate change, the more apocalyptic the better, is being manipulated to exert social control in ways that Marx and Lenin could only have dreamed about.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:18am
  - DigNap15
    
    They lost their argument when they changed it from Global warming to Climate Change!
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:21am
- igm
  
  Poppa: Told to publish it by CoL union masters.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:22am
- KevOB
  
  Criminal irresponsibility to publish this alarmism without due care. The wilder the claim the greater the obligation.Public health is at stake not just media views.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:28am
skyblue

How do I go about getting the Bradley Manning (whatever the dickless version is called) meeting stopped?
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August 8, 2018 8:12am
- igm
  
  It will be feted by Labour/Green weirdos and media. Don’t you know it was an Obama admirer!
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:23am
- srylands
  
  This is a person convicted of espionage and who did untold damage. And yet he will be allowed into New Zealand, granted freedom of speech and treated like a hero.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:33am
  - igm
    
    Bet “It” even gets to meet soon-to-be “Murri-speaking” illegitimate sprog.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:36am
    - sooty
      
      Now that would be the ultimate fashion statement!
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:04am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Just threaten to disrupt the meeting. Oh wait; (s)he isn’t speaking at Massey University, so it might need to be something else. Marama Davidson should have some ideas…
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:58am
- Nermal
  
  Don’t fall into the trap of copying the lefties. Let Manning spout his garbage, and be seen for what he is, a cowardly mentally ill traitor to his country
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:18pm
Lee C

meanshile in the USA:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-candace-owens-charlie-kirk-protestors-restaurant-a8480746.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1533670530
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August 8, 2018 8:14am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The behaviour of those Antifa types is disgraceful, but I had to laugh at them calling a black woman a “white supremacist” 😀
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:01am
- Fletch
  
  Just as Maxine Waters instructed them to do…
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXo5vEHEPk
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:20am
Happychappy

Winston Peters has been getting away with these sort of speeches and things he can’t prove for years under the cover of Parliamentary Priveledge. What’s the difference of crucifying someone’s character without proof under Parliamentary Priveledge or blaming the Chinese for our housing Crisis .
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August 8, 2018 8:16am
- sooty
  
  We all know twitford is an idiot, so he gets a free pass. Just like stephie only gets a downtick not a report like hugh.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:06am
secondcumming

Looks like we could benefit from the ‘human rights’ spat between Saudi Arabia and Canada.

The kingdom has just announced it will withdraw all of the 15,000 Saudi students studying in Canadian Uni’s, after their Foreign Minister condemned the A Rabs over the arrest of women’s rights activists. The students will reportedly be placed in countries such as Australia and New Zealand.

Honestly though, you’d have to wonder WTF Canada’s got a problem with……

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_wBDdthYN4

There’s an old Arabic saying that goes: “He who interferes with what doesn’t concern him finds what doesn’t please him”
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August 8, 2018 8:20am
- simpleton1
  
  Looks like the plane is arriving to load up those Saudi students in Canada 🙂
  
  https://web.archive.org/web/20180806141053/https:/twitter.com/Infographic_ksa/status/1026388088547889153
  
  As it also says, “Sticking one’s nose where it does not belong!”
  
  Is that a camel’s nose at the entrance of the tent?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:40am
oldpark

The last few weeks in NZ the right to “free speech” has taken a battering. The fuse was lit by members of the Islam community approaching Auckland Mayor Goff complaining about two Canadians who would be speaking on “free speech” in an Auckland rate payer funded Building.
Goff used the word ‘security’ to ban the use of the hall.Not forgetting maybe some truths would be highlighted regarding some of the objectors.
Subsequently NZ and Canadians were denied the right to express “free speech” in another venue.
Now just yesterday one of the most likeable and tame NZsDon Brash got dumped off a NZ taxpayer funded University.His crime was to talk about what it was like when he was the leader of NZ National Party. The woman who runs the University made a unilateral decision to ban big Don making a so called “free speech” on his previous role in National Party.
She also quoted “Security”,from who or what
The real truth of all the banning of the right to “free speech” is the fact that NZ has been taken over by “FAR LEFT LUNATICS” all hiding behind the guise of so called security. That banning is just a start. Wait until the next phase by the “Far Left Lunatics” an attack on even the thought process, if they dont agree with it.Perhaps we are there already.
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August 8, 2018 8:25am
- igm
  
  They already attack thought processes through schools and universities. They start with young children then completely indoctrinate with their vile agendas at varsity.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:28am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes its time to drain the school and university swamp.
    Only male teachers (with balls) should be allowed in our schools!
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:42am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Sorry. Butterfingers on my smartphone. It was meant to be an uptick not a down.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:51am
- waikatogirl
  
  “That banning is just a start. Wait until the next phase by the “Far Left Lunatics” an attack on even the thought process, if they dont agree with it.Perhaps we are there already.”
  
  Hasn’t thought process already come under attack with the claim by the rabid-left “Far Left Lunatics” that everyone is unconsciously racist? I call BOLLOCKS on that! ?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:40am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    1984. Thanks George Orwell – we are there.
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:44pm
- Inandout
  
  oldpark, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in Goff’s office when the Muslims visited. Could it have taken the line of ‘listen Mayor Goff, if you don’t ban these two, well, we shouldn’t upset our more radical members should we?’ Nothing more would need to be said to have Goff shit his pants, because in the long run he runs on self preservation.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:49am
  - igm
    
    Goff is a known left-wing paint throwing wimp who specialised in abusing returning soldiers who had been fighting a war against Communism. He was, and still is, an avowed commo, pacifist and loser!
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:59am
- Harkman
  
  If the National party leadership had balls, they would demand a reintroduction of free speech in this country or a reciprocal policy will be implemented, “we’ll ban lefty activist protest marches when we’re in power.”
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:09am
  - Komata
    
    HK
    
    ‘If’!! With Simon in charge, don’t hold your breath…
    
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    August 8, 2018 1:03pm
Left Right and Centre

So you moved to NZ where the cow isn’t sacred . . .

I heard about an Indian woman – wouldn’t have dinner with a social club because she couldn’t bear to be near people eating cow meat.

As you read and type the 747s are landing like it’s Normandy . . .
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August 8, 2018 8:32am
- MT_Tinman
  
  So you moved to NZ where the cow isn’t sacred
  
  In NZ the cow may not be sacred …. but it’s held in pretty high esteem at my supermarket.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:44am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Doesn’t like sitting next to people eating cow meat?
  
  I don’t like sitting next to, living adjacent to or sharing common facilities with people who think that a caste system is ok.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:46am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I know white people born here who won’t sit at a table where meat is being eaten. And they work and contribute a lot less to NZ than the average immigrant from India does.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:47am
- SGA
  
  @Left Right and Centre
  
  I heard about an Indian woman – wouldn’t have dinner with a social club because she couldn’t bear to be near people eating cow meat.
  
  Seems reasonable enough to me – she has her beliefs and is making a choice for herself.
  If she was trying to make the social club ban beef from the menu so that she could eat there, then it would be another matter.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:23am
- KevOB
  
  That woman is not being unreasonable in declining to dine with others who eat animals she considers sacred. It is not a prerequisite for immigrants to adopt our customs but mutual tolerance is neccessary.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:38am
Paulus

Sadly freedom to say and think has suddenly de- escalated whereby any commie minded lefties are able to get away with the complicit media and our Government.
Such freedom which people died for is now being very rapidly destroyed.
I never though we would see it in New Zealand.
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August 8, 2018 8:37am
VicParking

This morning Red Radio had three articles/interviews in a row which summed them up to a “T”.
First they had an Unite Union comrade on who repeated the mantra that “Capitalism has failed”. Did they ask him what he would replace it with, NO, the interviewer had trouble getting their tongue out of this arse.
A climate “Change” Scientist who said that its doom and gloom and in 25 years the ice caps will melt etc etc. Didn’t they say that all this in 1980.
They interviewed a “Democratic??” Reporter about the wild fires but within three sentences she turned it, with help from Red Radio, into a rant about Trump. They all but said the fires were his fault because he criticised the Gov of California.
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August 8, 2018 8:37am
Monique Watson

Coach to oldest son: If you keep on getting meaner then you could take the whole team all the way to the NFL.
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August 8, 2018 8:40am
- Harkman
  
  Good news, does he need a manager? ?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:43am
  - Monique Watson
    
    He’s only Freshman but the Colleges start calling early. He took out a Running back today. Linebacker behind him. His friend got a slight concussion but my son took a kidney punch and then took out the offensive Linesman.
    His quote: “If I’m going down then he’s going with me”.
    Not a bad motto really.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:06am
Rich Prick

I’ve become concerned for the Kiwi sense of things so forgive my language. Fuck off you leftie freedom hating language/thought police cunts. We’re over you. That is all.
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August 8, 2018 8:42am
- alex Masterley
  
  Very succinct and well put. Can’t give you enough upticks.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:04am
- Paulus
  
  Remember – We voted for a change !
  Now look at what we have got !
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:05pm
secondcumming

I’m not really a religious person, but it’s images like this that restores one faith in human nature…..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkBj0hRW4AARyFZ.jpg
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August 8, 2018 8:46am
- Inandout
  
  By the way, how much do those girls charge?
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:52am
  - secondcumming
    
    You have to Bahter a lot harder if it’s twins 😎
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:57am
    - Muzza M
      
      Awesome comment friend.
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:02am
  - stigie
    
    Is that starboard ..?
    
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    August 8, 2018 10:48am
- DJ Ward
  
  I’d be seriously worried about letting them see my PIN number.
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:13am
MCos

Asbestos is making a comeback. Lead will be next.

https://archpaper.com/2018/08/epa-asbestos-manufacturing/
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August 8, 2018 8:53am
Harkman

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid the Labour is. Yesterday the queen of stupidity, Carmel Sepuloni said they might get rid of drug testing for beneficiaries because according to their dopey stats only 1 in 277 tested failed the tests. But we know that in western countries the percentage of regular recreational drug users is around 10% or more. The same thing was observed in elite cycling and athletics, the IAAF and UCI anonymously surveyed those at the top and some 33-57% admitted to taking PEDs in the past year but they only ever catch 1%. They simply wait to be tested then “hit up.” So obviously the testing system needs improving not removing, we’ll have a completely out of control situation if they do. Mind you wasn’t Sepuloni’s mum done for benefit fraud. Probably a self-serving measure to protect her own family and friends.
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August 8, 2018 8:54am
- Rich Prick
  
  Fraud is cool, apparently. Ask that fat Māori chick from the Green Party. She was well into it.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:57am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I didn’t ask for that fucking macron thing, who’s running this shop?
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:05am
    - secondcumming
      
      A lot of people in France are saying exactly the same thing.
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:32am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Lol, I didn’t even see that!
        
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        August 8, 2018 9:55am
Inandout

Hillary’s reputation is finally being shredded with her marital condition, covering up her emails which were hidden for Clinton Foundation contributions, and her serious medical problems in writing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6GYjm4KUYw
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August 8, 2018 9:01am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  clip is a year old.
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:22pm
wiseowl

Be afraid.
The Global Compact on Migration is likely to be on the agenda when everyones friend Cindy goes to the UN later this year.
If we sign up to this (NZ) we will be handing over decisions on immigration to a UN body.
Where are National on this?
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August 8, 2018 9:01am
- Harkman
  
  The UN is dangerous, but the average Joe on the street thinks it’s some adorable little fuzzy animal. The smartest thing we could is get out of it. Look at the Iwi when a decision rightly goes against them, they run off to it to embarrass us.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:14am
  - sooty
    
    Commie chick is going to run off to flash her norks there too with the fashion accessary.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:56am
- Komata
  
  Wiseowl
  
  Silent, as is now usual.
  
  Probably Simon even agrees with it.
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:07pm
Local Miller

National’s Spokesman for Building and Construction Andrew Bayly clearly laying out why Twitford’s KiwiBuild is destined to fail. Looks like this man knows his business.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business-video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503079&gal_cid=1503079&gallery_id=196697
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August 8, 2018 9:18am
- DigNap15
  
  He made some good points about building material standards.
  It just reinforces what I always say, our population is just too small to justify these things (standards organsations and testing)
  Yes, but he did not mention the high cost of our building materials!
  And the ridiculously high building costs consents by our bloated useless councils
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:04pm
dime

Groundbreaking reporting from STUFF against his morning.

Apparently, Kathleen Turner described Donald Trumps handshake as yuck.

This is what she looks like. The voice is even worse.

Im saying yuck back on behalf on donald.

Talk about letting oneself go!

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kathleen+Turner+MoMA+Contenders+Screening+_L-Yt_Fz5L1l.jpg
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August 8, 2018 9:26am
- Harkman
  
  A handshake as yuck? Macron wouldn’t agree.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:51am
- Rich Prick
  
  Awwwwww
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:53am
- Nermal
  
  That should have come with a warning!
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:23pm
secondcumming

The end of TESLA as we know it?

*Elon* want’s to take the business private…….with funding in place from the *Saudi’s*, could it be all over Rover?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026914941004001280
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August 8, 2018 9:29am
Monique Watson

What are the Leftie thought police cunts banging on about today?
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August 8, 2018 9:30am
Ida Tarbel

The danger of this thought policing is that it shifts otherwise centre right thinking people to the extremes. we leave thoughtful and honest debate behind and divide along Democrat and Republican lines – it is very dangerous and needs to be called.
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August 8, 2018 9:33am
- MCos
  
  Wrong forum.
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:06pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Christchurch press running a story on Labour Party wives being appointed to Board of S.I. largest Charity.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/106067222/rata-foundation-mp-partners-appointed-to-charity-board
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August 8, 2018 9:39am
- Harkman
  
  Yes, you beat me to it. Cosgrove’s wife Sheriff is a real socialite. If we are one of the least corrupt countries, then all the others must be utterly grubby.
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:48am
  - MCos
    
    You’ve got no idea
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:04pm
- igm
  
  Just like the lying Clintons!
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:52am
  - sooty
    
    What the wives not able to be on any of these 150 talkfeast committees of Labours. Maybe too close to the bone.
    
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    August 8, 2018 10:01am
- marcw
  
  Seems a bit of an unnecessary hit job to me Maggy. The women appointed appear qualified to be on the Board and, well political ‘favouritism’ is a thing that happens everywhere. My more important question is why are they all paid so much? This is a charity after all. Honorarium and documented expenses would be enough for me.
  
  I’m at a loss to know why this is even worth a “Stuff”.
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:18am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I read through looking for the wives’ qualifications… and apart from some very loose statement about one of them being involved in the community (no further details), I’m none the wiser about these ladies’ skills/experience/qualifications/abilities.
    
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    August 8, 2018 10:21am
    - VicParking
      
      They have superb Qualifications, they are related to a Labour Party functionary. In fact if they were NZ First wifes they would be all doing Reviews into police appointments.
      
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      August 8, 2018 10:57am
Anne Glen Eden

I have to agree with Rachel Stewart this morning. “One of the myriad reasons the world is in the dire state it is right now is because of the scale of humanity’s sheer disconnection from nature.” I would add total disconnection from reality.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12102659

Through all my earlier life, probably the most celebrated ‘nobility’ in the species, and in other species, was the notion of a mother defending her young – the lioness defending her cubs. The world has long recognised that, while women were (and are) generally considered the physically weaker sex, it is the height of stupidity for anyone to get between a mother and her progeny, especially to threaten the latter. Most women will probably have had the experience of having various fears of spiders, the dark, or sundry other things – but once they have children, they can walk through fire for them when required. And that not only applies to daily matters but sometimes even in protecting their children from nightmares – I can remember my mother saying to me after one such description – “I would never let that happen to you” – with such force and commitment that I believed her absolutely.

Now, however, the maternal ‘badge of honour’ and ‘nobility’ is about death. Mothers should have the ‘courage’ to abort their children in the womb if they doubt their ability to look after them, readily give them up to others for adoption, or abdicate all parenting to professional child carers so they can go out and serve economic goals. Children are the last priority, to be dragged around as convenient social appendages and/or a reluctant submission to biological instinct.

It seems the final vestige of ‘nobility’ of positive motherhood has gone – even animals are not allowed to demonstrate positive motherhood. It’s a crime worthy of death.

“After a cow attacked a man who came to the aid of a screaming woman in South Auckland’s Totara Park, the cow was sent to the slaughterhouse along with the calf she was clearly protecting. Yes, that’s right. Despite two humans being in the centre of the highly maternal bovine space, the cow and calf’s lives were abruptly terminated.
The woman said she saw the cows acting strangely before they charged. “They were following me with their eyes. I was actually on my third loop of the park, I’d passed them two times before,”

I mean, what could be more important than a human being having the right to invade the space of a cow and calf in a threatening manner. How dare that cow try to protect her baby! Pretty much like our legal system treats mothers/fathers trying to protect themselves and their young from abusers. I suppose we should be grateful the mothers/fathers are only prosecuted and/or jailed.

The cow, well, we showed her. Her attempt at protection was futile. They’re slaughtered. The cow won’t do it again. Presumably we’re breeding them to favour those prepared to cast off their young just like we do.
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August 8, 2018 9:39am
- wiseowl
  
  Trouble was Anne , there wasn’t a calf.
  The guy that rescued the woman rang Leighton yesterday and told the story.
  What you say in essence is correct.
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:11am
- VicParking
  
  If you stand still and walk back slowly they will loose interest. Trying to karate kick them was not wise. Like most humans in situations like this panic is the first solution.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:00am
- stephieboy
  
  Anne of Glen Eden, again another polemic about turning the clock back to the Victorian age ?
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:13am
  - dime
    
    that wouldn’t be good for you stephie, you’d be an even bigger loser in those times
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:06pm
  - Lance
    
    Considering your support for stone age behaviour, pot/kettle/black
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:18pm
DJ Ward

Kelvin Davis opposes free speech.

Davis was a sponsor to a men’s summit at parliament in 2017. He cancelled the event.

This was his reason, quote.

“Not only will criticism of feminism NOT be tolerated, even ALMOST criticism will not be tolerated”.

He marches agianst male sex crimes. Well done Davis. How about female sex offending? Once you include lying about being on the pill, and paternity fraud females commit more sex based crimes than men.

He is a White Ribbon Ambassador. This aims to protect women and children from DV. Men don’t need protecting and must take responsibility for all DV. This is an obscene and bigoted view that in no way represents the reality of DV or who the offenders and victims are. Both genders offend and both genders are victims.

The feminist block in parliament can’t even allow a summit on men’s health, and other social issues but allows anti mate rhetoric on a daily basis.

Well done Puppet Davis. We won’t make you apologise for being a man. A real man wouldn’t have done what you did. Have a promotion instead.
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August 8, 2018 9:54am
- sooty
  
  Does the commie chick have his nuts in her purse?
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:03am
  - VicParking
    
    Plenty of room as Clarke’s are really small and take up no room.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:02am
- stephieboy
  
  DJ Ward, another of your contributions to the fake news dossier?
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:20am
  - DJ Ward
    
    This event took place. It’s not fake news.
    
    It was to take place in April 2017 in parliament buildings. Davis gave his support for the event around Christmas 2016. Was later cancelled by Kelvin Davis.
    
    Quickly followed by this replacement event.
    
    “Organisers of the Men’s Summit 2017 have reached a settlement after Mirimar Links Conference Centre cancelled the use of their venue in April at short notice on the grounds of feeling “uncomfortable” with men’s issues.”
    
    Do you hate men Stephieboy?
    
    Or should I be banned for talking about men because you feel uncomfortable?
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:04am
    - Nostradamus
      
      DJ Ward:
      
      Do you hate men Stephieboy?
      
      I think it’s fair to say that “men” isn’t Stephieboy’s preferred demographic…
      
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      August 8, 2018 2:31pm
    - Bullion
      
      Why need a men’s summit? Isn’t that a just a normal board of directors meeting?
      
      Jokes aside. No problem with a men’s summit if it is not anti feminism. Feminism is great for men, it aims to breaks down negative gender stereotypes (for men and women) and to treat others with empathy and respect. Men don’t have to adhere to any social idea of what it is to be a man anymore – that can be freeing.
      
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      August 9, 2018 9:15am
Monique Watson

What’s the true definition of bravery?
Chancing a fart when you know you have diarrhea.
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August 8, 2018 10:13am
- secondcumming
  
  You really know how to turn a man on in the morning, Moni 😉
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:22am
  - sooty
    
    Billy Connelly says, once you hit 50, never trust a fart!
    
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    August 8, 2018 10:23am
    - Lance
      
      He also said once you turn 60, never waste an erection
      
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      August 8, 2018 12:19pm
      - Harkman
        
        The other one was, never give up an opportunity to take a leak.
        
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        August 8, 2018 1:27pm
      - sooty
        
        I wonder how Billy is, cause he had some sickness.
        
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        August 8, 2018 3:42pm
sooty

That Phool Goof is to blame for all this ruckus about who can speak and who can’t. If the idiot had not banned Southern and Molyneux from speaking at ACC properties none of this would have happened. Everybody now knows about hate speak and it’s his fault. Once again Phool is made an idiot. The left must be thanking him for raining on their parade. Now every leftie has to eplain them selves from commie chick, racilist hone, massey, gower, etc.
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August 8, 2018 10:22am
sooty

I see that Mr Helen Clark has an opinion piece in that far left herald.
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August 8, 2018 10:25am
- VicParking
  
  I made sure it was on top of the cats litter box
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:04am
- stephieboy
  
  sooty, this one here?
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12098631
  
  “Far left Herald?”
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:06am
  - rangitoto
    
    You might know it as “Ctrl-Left Herald”. One of the best fake news sources around. Just your thing.
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:45pm
stephieboy

Sooty and coy a door closes another opens,

Don Brash to speak about ‘PC culture’ at Auckland University,

The University of Auckland will not be following Massey University’s decision to ban former Reserve Bank Governor Don Brash from giving a speech…

….Act Party leader David Seymour yesterday called for Ms Thomas to stand down over her decision, while Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern called it an “overreaction”.

Mr Brash is due to participate in a debate at the University of Auckland tomorrow night.

He will be speaking in favour of the motion, has PC culture gone too far to the point where it is limiting freedom of speech?”

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/363595/don-brash-to-speak-about-pc-culture-at-auckland-uni

Chuck Bird get there quick!
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August 8, 2018 10:26am
Fletch

Vox, (yes, Vox!) has an article showing how much the Socialist policies of Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will cost, and how they are unaffordable.

Last week, the Mercatus Center, a libertarian-leaning center at George Mason University, estimated that Sanders’s Medicare-for-all plan would cost the government $32 trillion over the next decade[…]

The 30-year projected tab for these programs is even more staggering: new proposals costing $218 trillion, on top of an $84 trillion baseline deficit driven by Social Security, Medicare, and the resulting interest costs.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/8/7/17658574/democratic-socialism-cost-medicare-college-sanders-deficits-taxes
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August 8, 2018 10:29am
- cmm
  
  The people at Vox might be roaring lefties but they realise that they need a functional economy for their click-bait to keep them in hookers and coke.
  
  Bernie would give them Venezuela. Not even the lefties want that.
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:58am
  - VicParking
    
    He can give them Venezuela as Cindy has dibs on it.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Um, bit of an own goal from Mercatus, as their analysis concluded that overall, Americans would be $2 trillon better off over that decade.
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:00pm
Inandout

Maori TV on strike, underpaid by the taxpayer apparently. The hundreds of millions absorbed by the various iwi seem to flow into areas that buy BMWs, instead of being put to good use. That is if you agree we pay the never ending tribal fees, which I don’t.
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August 8, 2018 11:04am
- VicParking
  
  Sack the lot and hire middle aged white males who wear gumboots and drink lion red at rugby games.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:07am
- cmm
  
  One might argue that wasting the money on BMWs is no worse than wasting it on whatever else they might have done with it.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:19am
  - sooty
    
    The money does not filter very far down the tribes.
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:44pm
- Longknives
  
  Has there ever been a bigger joke on the NZ Taxpayer than Maori TV?
  Hundreds of Millions of Taxpayer Dollars and they still play Mr Ed (Translated into Maori) on Prime Time Saturday night..
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:38am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Thanks Longknives.
    I adore Mr Ed in te reo. It’s hilarious. I’ll make sure to be watching.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:39am
    - dime
      
      i have no doubt youre free on a saturday night to watch mr ed in maori.
      
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      August 8, 2018 12:10pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Depends what time it’s on. I don’t like to miss the Lotto draw, and then it’s bedtime.
        
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        August 8, 2018 12:43pm
      - softail 1450
        
        dime ,I wait all week for that ,god it’s great isn’t it…….FFS….
        
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        August 8, 2018 1:14pm
cmm

Geez Robbo must think we’re all as thick as shit.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/106094506/business-confidence-hit-by-local-and-global-factors-finance-minister-says

Nope, yanking the rug out from under oil exploration and a whole lot of policy moves that threaten employers (and by extension employees) and increasing taxes on fuel (and by extension all transported goods) have absolutely no negative impact on business confidence.

Does the dumb prick not understand how this works?

Shut down an oil business (or prevent a new one from being built) and it impacts:
* motels that provide accommodation
* cafes that sell coffes and pies.
* sparkies and other tradies that provide services.
* physios and doctors that provide services to workers.
* prozzies
* pubs
*… the list goes on.

And all those people themselves need services, supermarkets, courier drivers etc.

I suppose it doesn’t matter to some prick who lives in Wellington and sucks the taxpayer’s tit and will get paid the same if the economy does well or not.
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August 8, 2018 11:17am
Morrissey

The brave, beautiful Palestinian Rosa Parks

It’s worth remembering that, for all their strutting and protestations of solidarity with all abused women, the Hollywood MeToo# divas never even once showed the courage to mention this young girl.

“All Palestinians have courage. It’s different from one person to another. But I grew up in a family where I got used to seeing prisoners, the injured and martyrs.” – Ahed Tamimi

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/8/6/meet_ahed_tamimi_17_year_old
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August 8, 2018 11:19am
- Morrissey
  
  Couple of Nazis have registered their disgusting presence. Haven’t you two scumbags got a Klan rally or a Brash supporters meeting to attend?
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:30am
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha Beautiful??
    She is as rough as guts mate!
    You should read more Morrissey- She is a Professional Protester whose sob stories have more holes than Swiss Cheese…
    
    Go Israel!!!
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:35am
    - Morrissey
      
      She is a Professional Protester…
      
      Well, she’s certainly a dedicated protestor and a troublemaker. Just like Rosa Parks.
      
      The rest of your post is, as usual, worthless.
      
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      August 8, 2018 11:38am
      - Longknives
        
        “Quick- Film me while I walk up and start kicking an Israeli Soldier’
        
        Not exactly Rosa Parks stuff now is it?..
        
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        August 8, 2018 11:44am
      - Morrissey
        
        Idiot.
        
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        August 8, 2018 11:54am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Woaah; Idiot? You go girl!
        
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        August 8, 2018 12:19pm
  - cmm
    
    Being a socialist, I thought you’d like Nazis and the Klan since they all come from leftie roots.
    
    Nazis = NSDAP = National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
    
    Klan was started by the Democrtats – Obama and CLinton’s mob.
    
    Please don’t tell me you’re backing away from your socialist brothers and letting the sde down.
    
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    August 8, 2018 1:39pm
    - Morrissey
      
      You seem to think I’m a supporter of Obama and Clinton. I’m not and I never have been.
      
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      August 8, 2018 2:39pm
- cmm
  
  Hollywood’s MeToo is any about Hollywood. It has nothing to do with the mistreatment of all women.
  
  If it did, they’d have a go at these terrible societies that practice FGM, force women to wear bin bags and stone them to death if they get a bit frisky.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:37am
- dime
  
  jesus, beautiful is a stretch.
  
  more – id take head off it at 3am while drunk if there werent many other options
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:12pm
  - Longknives
    
    She might put on her more ‘Traditional’ Muslim attire if it pleases you Dime? (Garbage sack over the head)
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:38pm
- Lance
  
  So she has long uncovered hair in a territory run by Hamas.
  At best disingenuous, at worst an oxymoron.
  
  And the fanatical Islam-a-fascists are hailing her as a hero and a fine example???
  
  Snigger
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:27pm
- softail 1450
  
  morronissey,”beautiful” go see specsavers you moron…..
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:49pm
  - Harkman
    
    SepticBoy and now Morronissey, you crack me up. I wish I’d thought of it first. ??
    
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    August 8, 2018 1:32pm
- rangitoto
  
  I see Mr Trump’s reinstatement of the Iran sanctions is starting to starve the Houthi’s of rockets and mines. Should eventually starve the Hamas terrorists of their rockets too. Hopefully when Nikki Haley replaces Trump as POTUS in 2024, she will retain Trump’s policies.
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:00pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Isn’t it amazing that a little girl who slaps a soldier who shot her teenage brother in the head with a steel bullet gets arrested but the soldier does not. Is it moral that she is questioned for many hours, on multiple occasions, without representation. That she is prosecuted in a court that is not of her peers. That the footage resulted in the imprisonment of others.
  
  Shame on Isreal.
  
  Isn’t it amazing that as well as adults they hold children in custody, without charging them or presenting evidence. That without trial of evidence they can extend that imprisonment without the right of the imrisoned to challenge.
  
  Shame on Israel.
  
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  August 8, 2018 4:37pm
EAD_TWO

Damn Jews:

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/1026682078874746880

https://mobile.twitter.com/TOOAJoyce/status/1026536778197549058

(let’s see how long this post till our free speech warriors get it hidden or removed ?)
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August 8, 2018 11:22am
- KevOB
  
  Gratuitous offense. There is no reason to mention Jews in the normal course of the day. I do not understand the hatred directed against them.
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:37pm
Morrissey

Nonsense, EAD_TWO. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense. The ADL is a loathsome organization led by an imbecile, certainly, but the idea that it “controls” the media and the government is simply paranoid, fantastical, crazy, unsubstantiated nonsense. The idea of the “Jews controlling the world” has as much intellectual heft as the Democrats’ equally ridiculous insistence that Russian masterminds were responsible for the defeat of Crooked Hillary.
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August 8, 2018 11:28am
- EAD_TWO
  
  What could possibly give me the idea that the ADL is patrolling what is allowed to be said in the public domain? ?
  
  https://www.cnet.com/news/adl-anti-defamation-league-facebook-twitter-google-hate-speech/
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/10/10/google-facebook-twitter-microsoft-join-forces-adl-end-cyberhate/
  
  https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/07/15/has-the-israel-lobby-killed-freedom-of-speech-and-freedom-of-conscience-in-the-west/
  
  Nothing to see here Goyim – move right along?❗
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO, keep on pressing the snooze button. We’ve now all had our big yawn.
    
    Move on.
    
    Next?
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:39am
  - Morrissey
    
    Yes, the ADL and other extremists do terrorise and browbeat people who speak out or take any kind of stand against the Holy State. We saw how ugly and threatening they are in the case of the forcing out of Malcolm Evans from the Herald in 2002 and the abuse of Lorde more recently.
    
    But that doesn’t mean they control anyone in the media or in Congress. All that people like Roseanne Barr and, in New Zealand, David Cumin and Lesley Max can do is call people names. They don’t actually control anyone any more than they control their own mouths.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:44am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Hey, I’m convinced, EAdolf. The Jews are a huge problem. How do we go about solving that problem?
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:44am
MCos

The Canadians are offside with the Saudis for suggesting they improve their appalling human rights.
Everybody knows that things are pretty dire in that country, but equally the Saudis have a lot of countries by the balls so they look the other way.
The Saudi Crown Prince is a sensitive chap and has reacted badly to this criticism.
I wonder if anyone will stick up for Canada?
https://thai.vi/2KG9awS
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August 8, 2018 11:40am
- Morrissey
  
  Canada also has an appalling human rights record. I wonder if the Crown Prince has raised it with that little dweeb in Ottawa yet.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:56am
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    Affirmative
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:08pm
  - stephieboy
    
    “Canada also has an appalling human rights record”.
    
    For example Public executions?
    
    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1629659/3-four-pakistanis-beheaded-saudi-arabia-rape-murder/
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:18pm
    - secondcumming
      
      Certainly looks like an appropriate sentence in the case of these 4 Paki’s.
      
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      August 8, 2018 1:12pm
    - Morrissey
      
      No, thanks to the efforts of liberal and radical human rights agitators, they don’t have public executions or indeed any executions any more.
      
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      August 8, 2018 2:57pm
secondcumming

@ 11.35am

The jury’s out in the JJ Feeny v Taxi Driver trial…….any predictions?
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August 8, 2018 11:56am
- Morrissey
  
  I predict they’ll be joking about this on her radio show for the next twelve months.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:57am
  - fernglas
    
    Don’t belittle sexual assault and its effect on victims. If it happened, it never should have, and I doubt that Ms Feeney thinks it was a joke.
    
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    August 8, 2018 12:23pm
    - Longknives
      
      I will comment after the Jury has delivered it’s verdict- But I think you are missing the rather glaring point that Morrissey and Co are making Fernglas
      
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      August 8, 2018 12:33pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Sorry I had no idea what this case was about. My response was based on sighting the name “J.J. Feeny”, which automatically suggests frivolity, joking around, etc. I hope she’s okay, and that justice is served in this case.
      
      A question about J.J. Feeney
      She wrote an article once about being involved in a threesome when she was a teenager in Hamilton—her, another girl, and a young man. She said that the young man was “boring” and she had far more of an exciting experience with the young woman. Intriguingly, she said that the man “is now a well known public figure.” He would now be in his early forties. Anyone have any idea who this boring, now well known, fellow is? Waikato Girl?
      
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      August 8, 2018 2:47pm
starboard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106105355/woman-charged-with-kidnapping-following-incident-involving-87yearold-in-hastings

We know dont we. Another special involved.
Feral scummy entitled filthy mongrel/s. Lock em up for 10 years, no parole, hard labour with regular beatings.
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August 8, 2018 12:50pm
- secondcumming
  
  As my father in-law says, “This is grist to the mill for those advocating Open Carry for all suitably approved Superannuitants.”
  
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  August 8, 2018 12:58pm
- rangitoto
  
  Angry Andy says it’s just collateral damage. Nothing to see here.
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:02pm
- Longknives
  
  Colonialism is clearly to blame- And lack of Te Reo in Schools..
  Did I miss anything?
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:12pm
  - DigNap15
    
    See my new Maori lesson series below
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:59pm
Hugh Pavletich

… The legal risks of high multiple lending just too great ? …

ANZ to become first bank in NZ to stop incentivising frontline retail staff with sales targets, acknowledging the ‘environment is clearly changing’ | interest.co.nz

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/sydneysiders-warned-about-negative-mortgage-equity-danger-zones/#comment-3161882 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/links-8-july-2018/#comment-3161888

ANZ to become first bank in NZ to stop incentivising frontline retail staff with sales targets, acknowledging the ‘environment is clearly changing’ | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/95211/anz-become-first-bank-nz-stop-incentivising-frontline-retail-staff-sales-targets

ANZ is to become the first bank in New Zealand to remove all sales incentives for its frontline retail sales staff.

The 25% slice of frontline staffs’ “scorecards” attributed to sales, will be done away with on October 1.

ANZ’s managing director of retail and business, Antonia Watson, says retail staff will still be incentivised around good customer service and other aspects of banking such as product knowledge but there will be no sales component.

Than bank’s move follows a change in the composition of these scorecards last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 8, 2018 1:16pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … From Australia …
  
  Investor mortgage crash to drive house prices lower – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/investor-mortgage-crash-drive-house-prices-lower/
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  Today’s housing finance data for June, released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), posted a large fall in overall finance commitments, led by crashing investor demand.
  
  According to the ABS, the total number of owner-occupier finance commitments (excluding refinancings) fell by 0.5% in June in seasonally adjusted terms and was down 5.6% over the year: … read more via hyperlink above …
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  Note Pavletich comment on thread …
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:14pm
Monique Watson

Did you know that when you say the word “poop”, your mouth does the same motion as your bum hole?
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August 8, 2018 1:17pm
- starboard
  
  How many of you mouthed ” poop ” straight after reading MW’s post, lol.
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:41pm
- Rich Prick
  
  You know, until this very minute, I had never turned my mind to that.
  
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  August 8, 2018 7:35pm
Longknives

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12103086

As if anyone needed any further proof of what utter fucking Trainwrecks the ‘Trans’ Community are…
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August 8, 2018 1:21pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I wouldn’t put this disaster solely at the feet of the “trans” community.
  
  It reads to me as if the mental/psychological destruction of this person had a long lead-in.
  
  Sometimes having the cleverest kid on the block is not something to envy.
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:50pm
  - Fletch
    
    Still, the mere fact that a man thinks he is really a woman and can physically become one just by saying he is, or by cutting off his dick, suggests a certain level of mental instability to begin with. Yet society has been programmed by liberals, now in major positions in the medical establishment and in government, to believe that we should go along with these fantasies rather than trying to help the person with their gender dysphoria.
    
    This wouldn’t work in any other area of psychiatry, such that if a person thought he was a cat, for example, that we should make laws to practically force society to go along with the delusion. To allow him a cat bowl to eat from at his school and a dirt-filled litter box in the school bathrooms to shit in. It’s really not that different with transgenders. It’s a mental delusion, and we’re all being asked (and in some cases forced by law change) to play along.
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:47pm
    - Dave Mann
      
      I’ve just read this to my wife and her response was “Hahaha…. somebody read your mind!”
      
      😀 😀 😀
      
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      August 8, 2018 6:03pm
      - Fletch
        
        Hehe 🙂
        
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        August 8, 2018 7:17pm
Monique Watson

Keas are pretty long lived. I remember hanging some South Island ones. Back in the day.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/106088689/joe-the-kea-sipped-coke-in-the-pub–but-was-easily-distracted-by-womens-stockings
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August 8, 2018 1:26pm
- Monique Watson
  
  I mean hanging out with some Keas lol. I think it was Arthur’s Pass.
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:35pm
- Longknives
  
  I like that they simply named him ‘Joe’.
  Nowadays he would be given some long winded unpronounceable Maori name…
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:11pm
- Lance
  
  I saw a David Attenborough doco that maintained Keas are the smartest birds on the planet.
  Backed up with experiments involving Kea using multistage reasoning needed to extract some food.
  
  Pretty impressive stuff
  
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  August 8, 2018 4:40pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    Smarter than the bird running the country? What about the parrots in MSM?
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:49pm
Poppa

I must have missed all of the new Kiwifail announcements over the last couple weeks

Surely there would have been some houses built & paid for?

No?
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August 8, 2018 1:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Our new garage is about half-finished.
  Does that count?
  
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  August 8, 2018 1:40pm
  - sooty
    
    How many familys would fit?
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:51pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      3 families / 4-5 at a pinch.
      
      It’s bigger than the ancestral croft which housed 2 adults, 4 sons, and a couple of cows in winter.
      
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      August 8, 2018 5:19pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106105440/radicalised-youth-who-planned-attack-chalks-up-ncea-credits

“Each month, the teenager has written a report for the judge. They have described progress with his counselling during mosque visits, his first game of golf and household activities.”

“The youth was radicalised online and last year planned an attack “for Allah”. He wanted to ram a car into a group of people and then stab them until the police killed him.

He went through with a threatening and violent incident but “decided not to hurt anybody because he did not have the means to kill enough people”, the Crown reported when he pleaded guilty.”
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August 8, 2018 1:38pm
- stephieboy
  
  Rodney Randall, the court must beware and see that the offender has taken reasonable steps at rehabilitation that has included “chalking up NCEA credits “
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:06pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    “Rodney Randall, the court must beware”
    
    I’m not entirely sure how you came to that conclusion?
    
    When do you think they came to that conclusion Steph?
    
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    August 8, 2018 2:28pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Rodney Randell, the Judge and the court a cognisant of all the evidence and the facts much of which the public ( that includes you and me ) are not privy to.
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:40pm
- Longknives
  
  Chilling.
  This lunatic should be incarcerated- for the protection of the wider Community.
  Will anyone here be at all surprised if he goes ‘Lone Wolf’ and something terrible happens??
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:07pm
  - Longknives
    
    I’m talking about the Muslim Teenager- Not Stephieboy!
    *In case anyone needed clarification..
    
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    August 8, 2018 2:18pm
    - Longknives
      
      The Stephieboy threat could probably be contained with maybe Chemical Castration and a lifetime ban from shopping malls…
      
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      August 8, 2018 2:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Longknives, chilling?
    
    I would call it Paranoia!
    
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    August 8, 2018 2:20pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Yeah nothing to worry about SB:
      
      “He went through with a threatening and violent incident but “decided not to hurt anybody because he did not have the means to kill enough people”,”
      
      Just a good boy really.
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Thank goodness the Judge took this thug to task.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/363626/taranaki-black-power-president-s-daughter-fined-for-suppression-breach
But would anything have happened if she hadn’t so easily identified the rapist’s victim?
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August 8, 2018 1:59pm
- cmm
  
  Reading that article is chilling:
  
  She posted: “Here you go whanau the one that wished not to be named” above a screenshot of the victim’s Facebook profile.
  
  Ms Weston made further posts threatening the victim who had automatic name suppression.
  
  One featuring a picture of the victim and her children she captioned: “This ugly huck muck”.
  
  The posts lead to other people posting threats such as the victim “better dig her hole now” and “Where is she kuz let’s get her”.
  
  But no, it is far more important for Zuckerboy to go chase down micro-aggressions.
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:58pm
Nostradamus

Stephieboy will be aghast with horror at what Boris Johnson said:

Britain’s former foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, has been told to apologise by British Prime Minister Theresa May and other senior Conservatives for a newspaper column in which he wrote burka-wearing women looked like “letter boxes” and bank robbers.
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Mr Johnson said he opposed banning burkas and other face-covering garments, but wrote that it was, “absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes”.

Teresa May appears to have missed the point:

“I believe women should be able to choose how they dress,” Ms May said.

Do Muslim women freely “choose how they dress” – or is the burka dress requirement imposed on them? In ISIS-land, there’s definitely no free choice.
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August 8, 2018 2:42pm
- alex Masterley
  
  All I can say is well said Boris.
  
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  August 8, 2018 2:46pm
  - Morrissey
    
    The equivalent of this tick “alex Masterley”, 1938:
    
    “All I can say is well said Adolf. Well said Heinrich. Well said Dr Josef G. Keep those dirty scum in their dirty ghetto.”
    
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    August 8, 2018 2:54pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Morrissey:
      
      Your comment in no way addresses the substance of my comment, which Alex Masterley responded to. Can’t you do better than scream “Nazi” epithets?
      
      Do you think that all Muslim women (or a significant proportion of them) freely choose to wear a burka? Once you’ve addressed that, then perhaps we could discuss your views on female genital mutilation and arranged marriages involving young girls. How far does your tolerance of other religious views go when it comes to integration in Western society?
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:01pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I agree all the things you mention are terrible. I do not accept them either. Nor do I accept the circumcision of boys, which many people, Christian and Jewish, still inflict on baby boys. Nor do I accept the brutal racist views of many apartheid-indoctrinated white Christian South Africans.
        
        Should we ban all signs of Christianity and Judaism because of the foul practices of some in those communities?
        
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        August 8, 2018 3:15pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Morrissey:
        
        Should we ban all signs of Christianity and Judaism because of the foul practices of some in those communities?
        
        That’s an interesting question – and I appreciate your constructive approach to this discussion. I’m interested in hearing other people’s views on the question you’ve raised.
        
        Instinctively, my answer is no, because Christianity and Judaism perspectives are deeply embedded into Western society.
        The fact that you or I might identify something “bad” about Christianity and Judaism doesn’t mean that it should be banned. Take Nasska. He’s a Kiwiblog reader with strongly anti-religious beliefs – Christian or otherwise. I can’t speak for him but my sense is that he reserves the right to laugh at those with religious views but doesn’t want to see religion banned.
        
        So what’s different about Islam? Would it be fair to say that Islam is distinguishable from other religions in the sense that it can be incorporated into a legal system (Sharia law)? And, from there, would it be fair to say that those who seek to live in a Western country but demand women-only swimming pool times and Sharia courts are unable to fully integrate?
        
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        August 8, 2018 3:49pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I’ve read some of his books, his command of the English language is very good.
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:02pm
- stephieboy
  
  Nostradamus, ISIS is now a defeated foe. Before them and prior to 2003 the Burka was not mandatory. Much like Syria and Turkey, I also understand Uzbekistan and Khazastan. etc.
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:45pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    ISIS is now a defeated foe
    
    I don’t think “defeated” is the right description.
    
    Their presence in Syria, as I understand it, is fragmented. And it seems likely that there’s underground cells seeking to reassert their presence.
    
    Then, moving closer to NZ, we have Indonesia:
    – Indonesia’s Military Chief Says ISIS Cells Are in ‘Almost Every Province’ of the Country [Time magazine]
    – ISIS reaches Indonesia: The terrorist group’s prospects in Southeast Asia [Brookings Institution]
    
    And then there were reports of school bombings in Pakistan a few days ago. Islamic-inspired terrorism is still a serious issue.
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:48pm
krazykiwi

Wellington is to ‘get’ $3.27m to eradicate pests.

Sounds about right. We can extradite all COL MPs to Oz with that kind of investment.
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August 8, 2018 2:56pm
Monique Watson

Kids are off to orientation tomorrow. Five kids over three schools. Football and Cheer on the radar tomorrow.
Speaking of which; Check out the Oklahoma Football Drill. This is what gave my son a bruised rib today and his friend a concussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aiksuAczQ&feature=youtu.be
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August 8, 2018 2:58pm
- Morrissey
  
  Morons. Why have they got helmets on?
  
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  August 8, 2018 4:04pm
Morrissey

Howler of the Day
No. 1: Chris R

“Dr Brash is the epitome of a thinking person who is NOT a racist or a bigot.”

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_8_august_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2275934

Howler of the Day is a series designed to highlight the most deranged, crazed, bizarre, paranoid and ignorant posts on the Internet. It is compiled by Hector Stoop, for Daisycutter Sports, Inc.
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August 8, 2018 3:06pm
- rangitoto
  
  A supporter of fascists wanting to close down free speech has been noted
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:12pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The Kiwiblog audience appears to disagree with Morrissey’s “Howler of the Day” nomination:
  
  … Dr Brash is the epitome of a thinking person who is NOT a racist or a bigot. …
  
  HIs comment was posted at 8.26 am, and after 7 hours, has received 47 upticks and 0 downticks.
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:14pm
  - Morrissey
    
    That’s an eloquent testimony to the febrile atmosphere engendered by the compulsion to approve hateful and inflammatory rhetoric, sadly characteristic of many on this site, I’m sorry to say. Those uptickers are on the same wavelength as those morons in Milwaukee….
    
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/milwaukee-brewers-mlb-pitcher-josh-hader-standing-ovation-racist-homophobic-tweets-surfaced-2018-07-22/
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:19pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Nostra, where would we be without you … our resident archivist and statistician 🙂
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:19pm
    - Morrissey
      
      He’s very good, I’ll grant you that.
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:22pm
- graham
  
  Oh goody. Another series by Morrissey.
  
  Because I was sitting here thinking, what I really need right now is someone who can arbitrarily decide on “the most deranged, crazed, bizarre, paranoid and ignorant posts on the Internet” and bring them to my attention.
  
  After all, it’s not as though deranged, crazed, bizarre, paranoid and ignorant posts are common on the Internet.
  
  And expressing the opinion that a particular person is not a racist … whoah, that’s pretty far-out …
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:26pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Oh goody. Another series by Morrissey.
    
    There are more on the way, old bean!
    
    Because I was sitting here thinking, what I really need right now is someone who can arbitrarily decide on “the most deranged, crazed, bizarre, paranoid and ignorant posts on the Internet” and bring them to my attention.
    
    We’re more than happy to be of service then!
    
    ….expressing the opinion that a particular person is not a racist … whoah, that’s pretty far-out …
    
    It is when that particular person is a notorious race-baiter and denigrator of the Maori language.
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:34pm
    - Harkman
      
      Which version of the Maori language?
      
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      August 8, 2018 3:46pm
      - sooty
        
        The written one!
        
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        August 8, 2018 3:55pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Like English, Japanese, French, German and every other language, Te Reo Maori has several dialects. Is that what confuses the likes of Brash, John Banks and John Ansell?
        
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        August 8, 2018 3:56pm
      - starboard
        
        Murri is a dead stone aged language, not relevant anywhere in the world however the do-gooders and sicky liberals will beg to differ, Im sure.
        
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        August 8, 2018 5:32pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Is that what confuses the likes of Brash, John Banks and John Ansell?
        
        No, it’s straightforward racism that leads them to feign confusion. I recall in the early 80s watching a Glaswegian movie at a film festival and being grateful that subtitles were provided – but so far, nobody’s ever asked me “which version of the English language?” when I asked them to speak it.
        
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        August 8, 2018 7:23pm
Morrissey

Hate is like a machine-gun or a cluster-bomb.

Fools like Boris Johnson think they can target their hateful rhetoric so that they hit only those contemptible Arab and African untermenschen.

Women wearing burkas. Awful….

https://forward.com/sisterhood/348382/seriously-what-orthodox-women-wear-to-the-beach-is-no-different-from-a-burk/
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August 8, 2018 3:31pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Hate is an emotion. Emotions can be controlled.
  
  Cluster bombs, not so much.
  
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  August 8, 2018 3:37pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Please see my post below.
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:54pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You have a touching faith in the rationality of hate, Odakyu. To an extent you’re right: they do control who they target. The problem is, who manipulates them, and who sets up the targets and how can they maintain the focus on those targets? Trump, for instance, focused on Mexicans, Africans and Muslims, but his supporters have gone on to enthusiastically target Jews as well. I have no faith in the ability or the integrity of Trump-lite types such as Boris Johnson to get it right.
    
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    August 8, 2018 3:59pm
    - Jack5
      
      And Morrissey targets Gropers.
      
      An interesting hung-jury trial in Auckland on the taxi driver accused of trying to grope the radio announcer.
      
      To assure us the jury system can survive in a multicultural society, it might be helpful if statistics were kept of ethnicity of accused and jury composition, plus the jury’s decision.
      
      If a jury system isn’t sustainable under multiculturism, we should move to judge-only trials.
      
      I think it’s fair, that if New Zealand is to transform into a multicultural society, it should review old institutions and systems that will no longer work.
      
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      August 8, 2018 5:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Why are you so obsessed with ethnicity? Do you really want to classify every citizen by ethnicity or culture to satisfy your desire to pigeon-hole people according to your outdated stereotypes.
        
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        August 8, 2018 5:18pm
      - Jack5
        
        Jury trials have to be seen to be fair and accepted as being fair, as well as being fair.
        
        The problem for a multicultural society jury is that no matter what it’s composition its decision is likely to be rejected by one or more of the cultures of a society.
        
        If you try to overcome this by ensuring juries themselves are multicultural, how do you make it precisely multicultural? How will the selectors account for mixed races?
        
        Members of the public are still likely to base their views of a jury decision on their own particular culture. For example:
        
        “There were too many X’s on the jury.”
        
        “It’s not fair that there were only so many Y’s on the jury.”
        
        “If there had been one more Z on the jury, the decision would have been different.”
        
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        August 8, 2018 5:22pm
      - Jack5
        
        Re Milky’s 5.18 post ….
        
        FFS, Milky, multiculturism and free speech are the topics of the moment, and at present the second is closely related to the first.
        
        Are you trying to silence discussion about them?
        
        I think you tried a similar diversionary tactic early in another thread in the last day or two.
        
        To answer your question: It would be great if, instead of pursuing multiculturism, NZ pursued and succeeded with a policy of assimilation. Then people would not be “pigeon-holed” by their ethnicity or culture.
        
        In the meantime, let’s hope discussion isn’t silenced by accusations such talk is racist, or fascist, or merely (your suggestion) reluctance to move from “outdated stereotypes”.
        
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        August 8, 2018 5:36pm
Monique Watson

Balderson in front. Doesn’t make the Snowflakes happy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/07/ohio-midterm-danny-oconnor-sen-troy-balderson-12-district/928836002/?csp=chromepush
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August 8, 2018 3:36pm
gorse

I think any chance that Judith Collins will lead the National Party any time soon just got tweeted out the window
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August 8, 2018 3:52pm
- Nermal
  
  What, isn’t yelling “Orivida, Orivida” working for you any more?
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:40pm
DigNap15

Lets all learn Maori
Now you all know the sickly white liberals want our children to learn Maori.
So I thought I’d start a daily vocabulary lesson for you all
Todays word is Emotion.
The Maori word for Emotion is …..
(oh its not in my Maori Dictionary)
We’ll discuss another word tomorrow.
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August 8, 2018 3:57pm
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15,
  
  here ,
  
  http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=emotions
  
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  August 8, 2018 4:08pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Oh well you may have got me on that one.
    (although I note it comes under loan words)
    Please wait for tomorrows Maori Lesson when we will discuss another English word
    
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    August 8, 2018 4:25pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Emotions loaned from Middle French,
      
      https://www.etymonline.com/word/emotion
      
      LOL
      
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      August 8, 2018 7:19pm
Morrissey

Try “kare” or “mana’o”.

Then get rid of that dictionary. Talk to a Maori person. See if you can come anywhere near his or her facility in two or more languages.
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August 8, 2018 4:09pm
- Longknives
  
  I love to travel and experience other cultures- And part of that experience is learning some of the language…
  So I speak more than one language- But on principle I refuse to learn anything of this ridiculous fraud they call ‘Te Reo’.
  And as long as the likes of Joel Maxwell keep sneering at and insulting New Zealand Europeans and their Culture that’s not going to change in a hurry!
  
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  August 8, 2018 4:48pm
  - Morrissey
    
    I love to travel and experience other cultures….
    
    Rubbish. Everything you have written up to now makes that statement untrue.
    
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    August 8, 2018 5:51pm
    - Longknives
      
      “Everything you have written up to now makes that statement untrue.”
      
      ?
      Why is it so far fetched that I like to travel and experience other Cultures?
      I’ve been to every Continent except the cold one down below us…
      
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      August 8, 2018 6:45pm
      - Longknives
        
        I should add I haven’t been to the Middle East yet Morrissey- But I aspire to.
        They tell me Israeli people are the most lovely and welcoming…
        
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        August 8, 2018 6:47pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Longknives:
        
        I’ve been to every Continent except the cold one down below us
        
        Hell is reportedly a warm place old chap. Oh, if you’re thinking of visiting an other-worldly place, and figure out how to “open up a communications line between this life & the next” then Nasska would like to speak to you urgently!
        
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        August 8, 2018 6:58pm
      - Longknives
        
        Nostradamus-
        Should I shuffle off this Mortal Coil I would try to contact all my mates on Kiwiblog- but seemingly people on ‘The other side’ can only communicate with mad old Gypsy Women called ‘Madam Moonbeam’ and the like…
        *Maybe I could contact Penny?
        
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        August 8, 2018 7:50pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    I love to travel and experience other cultures
    
    Same.
    
    I speak French and Spanish semi fluently and I can usually get the gist of a conversation in Hindi. I have done stage one Mandarin Chinese (just called ‘Chinese’ in Chinese hahaha) at uni and I have travelled widely all over the world.
    
    Some cultures are better than others and I don’t think sticking your tongue out and threatening them is a civilised way of greeting people, and I’m not at all interested in learning Maori.
    
    Its their nasty violent tribalist culture that gets my back up. Contrast the Maoris with their close relatives, the Hawaiians; also Polynesians, but in Hawaii the greeting is ‘Aloha’ (meaning love) and the cultural markers are the Haku Lei, their beautiful melodic music, broad smiles and the hula. Racial cousins but literally worlds away culturally.
    
    The Maoris (I use the ‘s’ because I am writing the plural form in English) claim to have come from Hawaiki. If so, I reckon they were expelled from there because they were bloody trouble makers!
    
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    August 8, 2018 6:25pm
  - realityczech
    
    I strongly advise against using Te Reo or anything to do with Maori culture, without first getting legal advice.
    
    When ever anyone uses a scribble that looks a bit like a Maori design, or a word, or a movement of the human body, Maori are screaming about a treaty breach and demanding $$$
    
    Maori are walking away from it all and I suggest you do too.
    
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    August 8, 2018 6:36pm
- Jack5
  
  OK, Morrissey, point taken.
  
  But as you monitor radio stations, tell us please, are you monitoring the 20 or so tribal stations?
  
  Can you use your undoubted language skills to monitor at the same time one station broadcasting in Maori, and one broadcasting in English?
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:11pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Do you mean the 20 Maori stations that the tax payer pays for?
    This is why you hardly ever hear a Maori person on talkback, they are listening to their own radio.
    
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    August 8, 2018 6:12pm
- rangitoto
  
  The average Maori person wouldn’t be able to assist. Taxinda Taxadern wont be able to help either.
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:16pm
- Nermal
  
  Most Maori I know don’t speak the language
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:42pm
- KevOB
  
  If a word hasn’t made into a standard dictionary it doesn’t exist.
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:54pm
Fletch

Apparently, Alex Jones has even been banned from Linkdin, where he uploaded nothing. It’s been a total purge by big social media corporations acting in tandem. Nigel Farage has put forward the idea that Facebook, Youtube and the rest ought to be seen legally as publishers (which they aren’t at the moment) so that they can be sued and at least held to some standard. They have too much power at the moment. Social media really is one of the main communication mediums right now. What would it be like if Vodafone, Spark, and Slingshot got together and decided to ban someone from using the telephone network because they didn’t like what they were saying over their phone calls?
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August 8, 2018 5:02pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  You can be banned from using the telecommunications network if you refuse to comply with the terms of service.
  You snowflakes make me sick – always wanting to impose more rules and regulations on the private sector. Why should these companies be obliged to provide you with your special safe spaces?
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:16pm
  - Harkman
    
    This coming from the man who stands by a stream and moans to the cameras when national is in power.
    
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    August 8, 2018 5:26pm
  - Fletch
    
    mm, the “terms of service” that Facebook claim they have is that they are a neutral platform where anyone can say anything. That was supposed to be the idea, anyway. Notably, hate groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter still have working accounts on those sites.
    
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    August 8, 2018 5:33pm
    - itstricky
      
      I imagine they probably consider weather conspiracies, shooting conspiracies, vaccine conspiracies and pizza conspiracies as “fraudulent” and “misleading”.
      
      Wake me up when BLM start going on about “Kebabgate”
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:21pm
- Harkman
  
  Yes they have way too much power and they contribute very little in the way of actual production.
  
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  August 8, 2018 5:24pm
Gravelroad

So was driving along the gravel road listening to the Magic radio station when the host suddenly interrupted the flow of Elvis Presley and The Supremes to opine that he was puzzled by yesterday’s events at the University.
He quite understood the two “WHITE SUPREMISCISTS” being stopped from speaking, but didn’t agree with Don Brash being banned.
It tripped off the tongue so glibly that white supremiscists bit, and we wonder why people out there just accept it as fact.
A man on the radio told us so it must be true.
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August 8, 2018 5:44pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Gravel, I hope you missed The Project talking about naughty Collins retweeting fake news, and some crimson haired hag that looks like she’s spent some long hard nights in a Public Bar somewhere saying she’s scared of Judith Collins because Collins looks like Cruella de Ville after she’s let herself go!
  Not a word about Marama Davidson’s fake death threats, or the Massey VC inventing threats of violence so she can censor what information we hear.
  
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  August 8, 2018 7:19pm
Monique Watson

I’m being a bit of an idiot tonight. I’m on the Miller Lite diet. Tapering down. I’ve kept it together, to get oldest off to Football. The poo jokes are also helping me keep it together:
Another poo joke:
You never really appreciate what you’ve got until it’s gone.
Toilet paper is a good example
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August 8, 2018 5:57pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Monique:
  
  The poo jokes
  
  We get a lot of those on Kiwiblog for some strange reason!
  
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  August 8, 2018 6:31pm
  - Fletch
    
    Should we rename it – Kiwibog?
    
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    August 8, 2018 7:16pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Kiwibog actually works!
      
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      August 8, 2018 9:08pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  I’m on the Miller Lite diet.
  
  Farkinell, my sympathies.
  
  Tapering down.
  
  Kids have left home, so I’m tapering up. Apparently, it’s a thing.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:35pm
Monique Watson

I went missing for days in Dunedin once. Stumbled back and forward between the LoneStar where I was working, the Empire and the Jailhouse Bar:
Dunedin man missing for four days:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12103549
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August 8, 2018 6:24pm
- nasska
  
  Back in my pre-dry drunk days before detox I didn’t consider that I’d had a decent session on the piss unless I woke up with three days shit in my pants!
  
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  August 8, 2018 7:04pm
  - starboard
    
    only 3 ?
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:17pm
waikatogirl

Not a poo joke:
How do you circumcise a whale?
Send down four skin divers.
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August 8, 2018 6:43pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Haha Nice One.
  
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  August 8, 2018 11:27pm
Muttonbird

Blimey. Noted National party embedded journalist, Tracey Watkins, is saying the trout is either unhinged and dangerous, or completely stupid.

I’d say both, but then I’m against anything and everything Collins does because clearly she is a poisonous idiot who offers nothing positive to New Zealand. Nothing at all. But for a National party journalist to be so alarmed at Collins’ fake news tweet and also the dumbass Bridges’ response is a major event.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106100009/how-far-down-this-slippery-slope-will-judith-collins-lead-national
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August 8, 2018 7:36pm
- stephieboy
  
  Muttonbird, repost tomorrow at 8.00am and give the usual bunch a shot of supercharged adrenalin to knock some sense into them.
  
  Futile as it will most likely be.
  
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  August 8, 2018 7:53pm
  - Longknives
    
    Well that certainly convinced me!
    I’d better change my allegiance now- Can I come and join you guys at Labour/Greens?
    I can say ‘Comrades’ alot and I promise I will buy myself a bone carving…
    
    *Sorry but I won’t allow anyone to roger or finger me at any Labour Party camps-Will this affect my application?
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:03pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”Will this affect my application?”…..
      
      Not in the slightest. They’ll just stupefy you with liquor until you’re past offering resistance. 🙂
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:08pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Longknives:
      
      I won’t allow anyone to roger or finger me at any Labour Party camps
      
      I think, as Nasska implies, you’ve missed out the crucial word “willingly” as in “I won’t willingly allow”!
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      a shot of supercharged adrenalin to knock some sense into them.
      
      It sounds like you have previous experience as a Bootcamp General at a Labour Party youth camp?
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:23pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      LK,
      If you’re old enough to give legal consent you are more likely to be a fingerer than a fingeree!
      
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      August 8, 2018 8:29pm
- realityczech
  
  I had a great laugh at the “fake news” story. It was made up by our leading fake news source to attack other news services, and even quoted Snopes, a massively bias fake news site, in support.
  
  Google put Snopes at the top of searches about things political to give a far-left spin. They lie something terrible. A few days back they ran a cover story about something defending Obama and said Trump started the rumour a couple of years ago. Trouble is a Google search showed reports going back many years way before Trump was running.
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:29pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Ok.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:05pm
Viking2

they wonder why business confidence is going through the floor.

https://www.facebook.com/simonjbridges/videos/2051060911592734/

Union reps will have the right to enter your home if you emply a union member working in your home. So they can visit cleaners, tradies etc with impunity even though it’s your home.
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August 8, 2018 8:13pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Yes, that would be awful. The Kuwaitis are way ahead of us on this issue. As one of them wrote recently:
  
  “How can you have a servant at home who keeps their own passport with them? What’s worse is they have one day off every week.”
  
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  August 8, 2018 8:31pm
  - realityczech
    
    I read that Milt. Disgusting. The plight of Indonesian maids is no better. Massive crippling international sanctions should be implemented on Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. They need to learn a bit of humility and sending them back to the stone age should do it.
    
    The abuse inflicted on Indonesian maids by the vile rat faced Saudis is well known. That is how they treat their fellow Muslims.
    
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    August 8, 2018 8:44pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Yeah. I reckon you guys are targeting the wrong muslims. I think you’d get along with Shia no problem. Sunni not so much. America backed the wrong horse.
      
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      August 8, 2018 11:09pm
      - softail 1450
        
        muttonbird,,???????? FFS ,in the middle east who knows who’s backing who?
        
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        August 9, 2018 6:45am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Well, obviously softail struggles to understand anything about the region, but I don’t see why he needs to project his ignorance on to others.
        
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        August 9, 2018 7:45am
RF

I see Peters had a sook to the speaker about a comment Bridges made about the commie chics long winded reply to a question today.

The comment was typical of what Peters makes on a regular basis and then turns around to see if anyone is laughing with him.

The speaker in his usual gutless manner instructed Bridges to appoligise.

We are royally fucked until these wankers move on.
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August 8, 2018 8:43pm
Lucia Maria

Evening, KiwiBoggers!

It’s a guest visit from me tonight.

I’ve been tapering down this year, but had my birthday over the weekend and joined the 50’s club.

And my sister in law brought me a birthday cake and told me I should lose weight. All that sugar has put me on the booze again.

Anyway, the cake has gone now, and the red wine has been finished off, so back to tapering down!
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August 8, 2018 9:11pm
- nasska
  
  Don’t overdo the dieting Lucia Maria.
  
  Johnboy prefers his paramours to be a little on the chunky side! 🙂
  
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  August 8, 2018 9:21pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Well, that’s added incentive, Nasska!
    
    Honestly, at this point I just need to be able to sleep. Have hit that age where I’m constantly being woken up hot flushes. Worst, thing, ever.
    
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    August 8, 2018 9:30pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  …my sister in law brought me a birthday cake and told me I should lose weight.
  
  The in-laws are good like that. I drink a lot more now than I used to, for the simple reason that I have a lot more money. If that isn’t a good enough reason, I don’t know what is.
  
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  August 8, 2018 10:26pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Haha. I had to go on the Miller Lite diet today. Can’t be trusted with anything stronger. It just goes straight down the gob. And for some reason, @Lucia Maria, probably hormonal, I can’t sleep either, I’m up now at 4am, cleaning a Football helmet and reading R. L Stevenson.
    
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    August 8, 2018 11:18pm
  - softail 1450
    
    P M, its quite often obvious you “drink a lot more than i used to”…Folk on this blog have even told you so ,usually later in the evenings…..
    
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    August 9, 2018 6:51am
Captain Mainwaring

This Morrissey Breen character is certainly one sick puppy isn’t he?
What were his poor parents thinking when they decided to conceive such a sad prick?
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August 8, 2018 9:38pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Ooh, ooh, I know this one! They were thinking lustful thoughts. I remember that one from my own kids.
  
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