General Debate 3 August 2018

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KevOB

What’s with the Rarotongan head gear in Parliament?
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August 3, 2018 8:03am
- sooty
  
  Hay, if you can have members in the witless protection program, surely they can wear silly hats. Then next week they will be bringing squirrels as well.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:11am
  - dave_c_
    
    “Tin foil” perhaps
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:31am
    - pdm
      
      More likely non stick teflon.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:45am
  - RF
    
    Squirrels worn as Davy Crockett hats.
    
    The father of the nation is proud to be wearing his squirrel across his face………
    
    Is Mike Bush’s clamp down concerning comments about Jethro still in force. It obviously does not apply to him so be prepared for a tsunami of media releases. The growing of a beard is currently making headlines. FFS.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:34am
    - secondcumming
      
      My missus was just saying, “For christ sake, why would any self-respecting white male want to grow such an unkempt looking beard like that?”
      
      She reckoned it would look better on Golriz Ghahraman 😎
      
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      August 3, 2018 1:25pm
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Check out Conchita Wurst, seems beards are all the rage.
      
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      August 3, 2018 3:03pm
duggledog

Fears Lauren Southern and Steven Molyneux might upset the Maoris, oooh!
And they won’t be speaking to RNZ, aaargh!

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/363245/fear-controversial-pair-s-speech-will-incite-racism-they-were-mocking-aboriginal-culture

Check out the photo of ‘TV Personality’ Te Hamua Nikora who I’ve never heard of, he looks like he fell face first into a mince pie.

For the last time.

It’s not about Southern & Molyneux.

It’s about Phil Goff (of all people) unilaterally deciding who we can or can’t go and listen to.

It’s about the execrable Valerie Morse (of all people), who burnt the NZ flag in front of veterans and expected to be allowed to, because of her rights.

If Goff and Morse are against it, I’m all for it, don’t care what it is.
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August 3, 2018 8:04am
- oldpark
  
  Morse also got deported from USA for attacking and damaging an American Airforce Plane. She still talks with a pseudo American accent. Born in Takapuna Go figure. Also got off lightly with the alleged terrorists actitivies in the Ureweras. Not forgetting many many other bad news actions on her crime sheet.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:35am
- Jack5
  
  Meanwhile the Stuff newspaper chain continues to soften up its declining white readership for another round of Treaty “settlements”.
  
  I don’t know why this chain doesn’t fully convert to printing in the Maori language and be done with it.
  
  Maybe the two big tax-exempt tribes are in talks with Fairfax to buy the chain.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:48am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Stuff is a feminist rag.
    It already speaks in its own language.
    The language of hate.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:44am
    - igm
      
      They are commonly referred to in the industry as “Fairfax Filth”!
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:00am
    - realityczech
      
      “Stuff is a feminist rag.
      It already speaks in its own language.
      The language of hate.”
      
      It is the worst I have ever seen. I regard their staff with disgust and utter contempt.
      
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      August 3, 2018 12:47pm
- kowtow
  
  These so called “anti fascists” are themselves far left extremists.
  
  They seem to be a motley crew of marxists , anti white nationalist maori nationalists , anti white race racists who claim for themselves all the freedoms and liberties they want to deprive anyone else of whose ideas they don’t agree with .
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:21am
  - Jack5
    
    Even Noam Chomsky, a favourite intellectual of the Left, rubbishes Antifa:
    
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/noam-chomsky-antifa-major-gift-right-wing-anti-fascist-alt-left-a7906406.html
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:31am
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    I am not convinced Antica understand what fascism is and what its symbol the fasces actually represents. Spoiler it’s left wing collectivism just like Nazism and communism…
    
    Interestingly in the temple of the dictator and tyrant Abraham Lincoln modelled after the temple to Zeus the front arm rests of the throne he sits on resembles fasces. I don’t hear of Antica taking a stance against Lincoln or protesting any other far left pressure group.
    
    They should change their name to accurately represent their support of fascism perhaps to ‘brown shirts’ or the ‘red Legion’ or something.
    
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    August 3, 2018 1:00pm
secondcumming

God works in mysterious ways [Luke 17:24-25]

*TOMMY ROBINSON and LAUREN SOUTHERN*

Could they be our new age Adam & Eve?
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August 3, 2018 8:04am
- peterwn
  
  Just remember, that although Tommy has been let out of prison, a re-trial on the Leeds related contempt charges has been ordered which will be held at the Old Bailey in front of a different judge. So he may not be out of the woods yet. His appeal concerning the earlier Canterbury related charges was dismissed (except for a minor clarification of the suspended sentence). The current situation is he is committed to prison for 3 months suspended for 18 months (from May 2017). Interestingly in the UK those committed to prison for contempt are to be treated as remand prisoners, not sentenced prisoners. He was wrongly treated as a sentenced prisoner following the Leeds case when the three months committal was ‘activated’.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:26am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    He’ll be sent back to prison, but with less kangeroo court process.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:44am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Probably. There’s a thorough explanation here.
      https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/08/01/the-tommy-robinson-judgment-what-does-it-all-mean/
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:29am
      - ross411
        
        That guy is deluded. Goes on about the far right, as he is far left and everyone not standing with him, is far right.
        
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        August 3, 2018 11:55am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Yeah let’s be realistic Tommy is left leaning and a nationalist, so he is more of a national socialist than a right winger.
        
        But I don’t know what his political views have to do with his prison sentence. Surely in a western country ones political views should have no bearing on any criminal proceedings. Yet the media is reporting on it as if that is the case.
        
        Anyway the left can keep him. Pretty sure Lauren is left leaning as well.
        
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        August 3, 2018 1:06pm
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      He will be given a fair trial the sentence to be carried out swiftly thereafter.
      
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      August 3, 2018 1:02pm
  - Scott
    
    Here is why I think Tommy Robinson was grossly mistreated. He is a white guy and he is critical of Islam and exposing its seedy underbelly.
    He was filming court proceedings, outside the court, of Muslim sexual offenders. He was arrested, tried and sentenced all on the same day and spent months in solitary confinement.
    
    Now imagine if it was a Muslim outside a court reporting on say catholic priest sexual offences? He would never be arrested by the police and he certainly would never be sent to jail. In fact he would probably be lauded in the mainstream media.
    
    That’s the problem – there are 2 standards of justice in Britain. Anyone who insults Islam can expect the harshest treatment. Anyone who insults say Christianity – no worries it’s all good.
    
    The British justice system should stop kowtowing to Muslims. And they should stop persecuting their own citizens who are actually reporting on what is actually happening among the Muslim community.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:55am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Jesus, read about his treatment in jail.
    -Lost 20kg in 2 months.
    -Moved to a high-muslim pop prison where he was keep in solitary for 23.5 hours a day (for his safety from Muslims), with only a mat on the floor
    -had to live on a can of tuna a day because other food preped by Muslim prisoners who threatened to poison him.
    -had to keep window closed due to prisoners throwing shit through them (hard as there has been a heat-wave).
    
    Poor bastard. Judicially sanctioned torture.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:05am
    - peterwn
      
      This is where it will get interesting. He was supposed to have been received and treated as a remand prisoner (wear own clothes, easier communications and visitor access, etc). The interesting issue is whether because of his mis-classification as a sentenced prisoner, he could claimed to have been ‘unlawfully detained’ and hence be awarded damages.
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:23am
    - Scott
      
      Great coverage from Tucker Carlson on Fox News about this-
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZZD89ucoI
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:46pm
Longknives

Probably only a few days until the biggest ‘Virtue Signalling’ publicity stunt in New Zealand Political History.
A mate who works for Fairfax tells me they all know it is coming- and they are pretty much on Stand-by for it!
I asked him why if they knew it was coming, and even the Media admit it is a bit of a Political stunt, then why not bloody call her out on it??
A- “Because everyone loves a feel-good story and this will be International news!”

Keep your Puke Buckets handy Kiwibloggers..
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August 3, 2018 8:06am
- fernglas
  
  Is she going to explain why they couldn’t spell their child’s name properly? Ask Airey Neave, Steve Nieve or Niamh Cusack how to spell their names, and it won’t be Neve.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:12am
  - Paulus
    
    Sadly Airy Neave a UK Minister got blown up by the IRA outside Parliament in the UK.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:15am
    - howitis
      
      The media love to compare the commie chick [Is she a commie hen now that she has bred?] to the other Prime Minister who gave birth while in office – Benazir Bhutto.
      
      Bhutto was assassinated with a suicide bomb in which more than 20 other people were killed.
      There was an attempt 2 months earlier where 180 supporters were killed.
      They may want to tone down on comparisons.
      
      Not that NZ media are very good with history.
      I don’t even trust what they say about yesterday.
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:15am
      - MCos
        
        What’s your point?
        The only comparison that’s been made between the two has been they had babies whilst leading their country.
        Apart from that there’s precious little similarity in their circumstances.
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:37am
  - Jack5
    
    Could it be that Stuff has persuaded Jacinderella to spell her child’s name with macrons – Nēvē.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:58am
    - KevOB
      
      That would render it into Kiwi as Nayvay.
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:06am
- tf78
  
  Longknives – Too soon for a wedding – they’ll save that for desperate times so it must be an engagement announcement. As PM I don’t think she is fit for purpose, maybe she should be Deputy at this time if she must be there at all.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:35am
  - Harkman
    
    Yes the engagement will come after a contraction of gdp or an increase in unemployment. The wedding will come just when the CoL is facing certain electoral annihilation. I wonder if she will have another?
    
    Oh but “we just want to be a family.”
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:54am
    - Jack5
      
      Or, or … could it be that Clarke G. is to get the snip?
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:04am
- niggly
  
  Roll up, roll up and place your bets:
  
  * Shucks everyone, we are getting engaged!
  
  * Shucks everyone, we are getting married!
  
  * Shucks everyone, we are going to adopt a child!
  
  * Move over Angela Jolie, we are going to adopt a child from overseas!
  
  * Fantastic news Kiwi’s, we’ve bought exclusive rights to be on the front cover of No Idea each week until the 2020 election!
  
  * Etc!
  
  The good thing is, they could just do one now, then another at the beginning of 2019, then another at the end of 2019, then another in 2020 and hey presto the MSM will lap it up each time and provide endless continuous publicity! Best of all Kiwi’s can’t escape to Australia, their MSM will lap it up too! Arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh!
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:46am
- Evadne
  
  Breast feeding in the house?
  
  Get a grip, woman. You’re not special. We’ve all done it – in supermarkets, beaches, restaurants, gardens, cars, while cooking dinner… It’s called motherhood, and has happened perfectly well for millenia.
  
  We did it to nourish our children. Not to get our photo in the international press.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:22am
  - igm
    
    Yes but Gnashers is not an ordinary mother. She is a charlatan using her progeny to hold popularity.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:03am
- DJ Ward
  
  Are they announcing the paternity test results?
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:48am
  - Longknives
    
    Correct Evadne!
    Longknives TAB has ‘Breastfeeding in the House’ in the next few weeks a hot $1.05 favourite..
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:11am
waikatogirl

CoL announcing beneficiaries will be signed up to apprenticeships. Employers will be paid a subsidy to take on young beneficiaries. Details to be released next week

What is the cut off age? What is wrong with apprenticeships for the mature unemployed?
Some beneficiaries may successfully transition to work but what about the no-hopers and untrainable?
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August 3, 2018 8:07am
- Colville
  
  Any help and encouragement a employer can get to take a yoof that might have a bit of history is IMHO a good thing.
  I have been at both ends of that hiring decision and benefited hugely.
  We need more tradies!!
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:23am
  - tf78
    
    The trouble is with these schemes they get bored and don’t bother turning up and end up more trouble than they’re worth.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:37am
    - Viking2
      
      Not in my experience.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:39am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Colville, I wasn’t criticising the apprenticeship scheme idea for motivated kids currently on the benefit. More power to those kids for a great kick-start to a long working life. I am concerned about the more difficult, hard to shift, unmotivated and downright lazy or thick beneficiaries who know all the tricks in the book to maintain their couch-potato status. Good luck getting them to stick with any work schemes. I’d also hate to see motivated mature people who would love to be included miss out due to their age.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:38am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    We have about 4.5% unemployment at the moment. At that level unemployment is pretty much ‘structural’, they will be the <75IQ unemployables, or those with drug or psychological issues. Generally won't make good tradespeople (who need flexible intellect and initiative)
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:49am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Exactly UN
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:54am
    - dime
      
      bang on. society will always have to carry 5% dead weight.
      
      the trick is not to incentivise them breeding.
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:16am
      - Longknives
        
        “the trick is not to incentivise them breeding”
        
        Jesus that’s exactly the opposite of what Sepuloni preaches! Have you read some of her insane proposals for Welfare?? She wants everyone on a bloody Benefit..(Apart from Old White Men obviously- Who have to work and pay the Taxes)
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:10am
    - KevOB
      
      At IQ<85 people drop out of employability. That'd be about 1/6 of the Euro-Kiwi population.
      
      We need to think of creative way to provide work for those less abled. Why can't manual labour still be done? I know of one fellow who happily works all day that way cleaning up waterways. He's happy he can work and make a modest living.
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:18am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Not at 85, much much lower. Closer to 75. That’s about 5% of European pop (avg 100, stddev 15) and about 13% of Maori (avg 90, stddev 15).
        
        And in unemployment we see a typical ratio of between 2 and 4x as many unemployed Maori as Europeans in NZ. QED
        http://archive.stats.govt.nz/~/media/Statistics/browse-categories/income-work/employment-unemployment/ethnic-labour-force-stats-by-age/Figure3.gif
        
        The lesson being that there is no possibility of reducing the number of Maori unemployed with respect to Europeans in an egalitarian society to try is a complete waste of effort/money. The same issue is reflected in prison numbers. But politicians will continue to waste taxpayer money on this until they dump the anti-science left-wing PC apologetics and start to make policy based on reality.
        
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        August 3, 2018 1:31pm
      - KevOB
        
        @Viking2
        It is far too un-PC to suggest that people have different innate potential. Basing policy on that false belief is unresponsive.
        
        Much better to recognise that we effectively live in a global village and that ensure we see that work is available across the wide spectrum of abilities. We don’t expect clerks to dig ditches but if people who can only do manual work need work why not provide the opportunity? If that is considered “uneconomic” how is it better to pay the dole than a likely lesser subsidy?
        
        People on lesser incomes succeeding in work make for a healthier, happier society. We should not feel overly concerned that we may have to pay a subsidy to create an effective job at a lower skill and pay grade. Not doing so will cost the community more. It’s not socialism either but pragmatism.
        
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        August 3, 2018 2:04pm
- Viking2
  
  Dam good idea. The stupid Nats should have done this.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:38am
stephieboy

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Amazing the good vibes that exist between The US President and our PM. Not only over work visas but in general. Nothing but warm fuzzies exchanged in two letters between them,

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/07/revealed-the-two-letters-donald-trump-has-sent-to-jacinda-ardern.amp.html

Great excitement
Terrific!
MAGA!
Fantastic!
Tremendous!

And so forth

Not since the great days of the. Former PM and former President have we seen. such a stupendous example of an “entente cordial” between the two great nations.

KBs Trump supporters will now know what Green MP Eugenie Sage meant having to” swallow a dead rat.”

LOL
Again join with me,
LOL
Yay!
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August 3, 2018 8:08am
- holysheet
  
  Why not take advantage of it then and fuck off.
  We won’t miss you, honest.
  LOL
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:31am
- pentwig
  
  ahh poor didums stupidboy
  your hated POTUS Trump corresponds with your PM
  oh dear how humiliating for you
  please refrain from showing us your anger
  or not
  its fun seeing you explode
  LOL
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:46am
- Harkman
  
  It is all due to Chris Liddell and Scott Brown. This is actually a means for NZ’s top business talent to seek asylum in the US when NZ collapses from Marxist policies.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:59am
kevn

The mummy has so much coalition rubbish to sort plus trying to be a mother.
No time to twitter or fakebook now.
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August 3, 2018 8:11am
- sooty
  
  No. She has plenty of time do all of that with the amount of staff running around feeding squirrel and looking after it. The fisherman can even do his own thing, he’s not even needed to provide the armond milk. She aln’t no solo mum.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:32am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Had to laugh this morning. Professional photo of Cindy and her family. Clarky has grown a beard that badly needed trimming off his neck. The guy on TV3 described it as “looking like a neck scarf”. ?
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:01am
    - Longknives
      
      What? I thought all Women thought he was ‘Such a Dreamboat’ Waikatogirl!
      Being the first man ever to be a stay at home Dad and everything…
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:13am
      - waikatogirl
        
        I’m not a fan of beards Lk. What is it with men wanting to look older by growing hair all over their faces? Very young guys with beards are just hilarious!
        
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        August 3, 2018 1:35pm
DigNap15

Jacinda is going to fix business confidence.
She said in her interview yesterday that she is working on a plan for a month and will then make a major speech.
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August 3, 2018 8:13am
- Huevon
  
  Classic Ardern. Like she up with a plan “6 years ago with her friend in Hastings” to pay people on the Bennie more money.
  
  Here’s how you deal with business confidence…don’t be a soft touch, be honest in your interviews, get rid of underperforming colleagues, think before you speak, listen to people who know what they are talking about. Too much I know…
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:19am
  - Viking2
    
    And don’t ban whole industries. Remember we used to have a n oil industry!
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:43am
- Poppa
  
  I can’t wait, it will surely be a gem with all of her past business experience.
  
  The baby would have as much experience as her
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:24am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Poppa, rubbish. Recall how Piggy Muldoon left the country – a crippled Polish Shipyard!
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:29am
    - sooty
      
      Try harder, idiot! Remember the weight is on you shoulders to be the troll of the nation. Fraser House has run out of trolls, you are it!!
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:35am
      - waikatogirl
        
        sb is the runt of the litter of trolls.
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:03am
    - Viking2
      
      Not quite. There were still some of us smart buggers still here.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:44am
    - rangitoto
      
      Squawk squawk says Ctrl-Lefty troll Stephyboy
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:29am
- Elaycee
  
  Jacinda is going to fix business confidence.
  
  How does she expect to achieve that?
  
  A snap Election?
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:28am
  - rangitoto
    
    Nationalise all business and lock up the Kulaks.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:31am
  - KevOB
    
    There’s no way the COLL are going to fix business confidence. Astute businesses are aware of economic reality–the COLL aren’t. Businesses can sense the credit tightening. High paid MP’s are isolated from being sensitive to that. They are planning for an un-reality. That’s why the reject Treasury reports as the conflict with their feelz chamber views.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:26am
- Longknives
  
  “She said in her interview yesterday that she is working on a plan for a month”
  
  By ‘working on a plan’ does she mean lying on the floor at one of her ‘Junior Communist’ mates houses wearing a Che Guevara T -Shirt, spouting Karl Marx and and listening to shitty Kiwi Hip Hop music?
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:17am
- KevOB
  
  Babytalk.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:19am
- thedavincimode
  
  I thought she’d already fixed it with the plastic bag ban????
  
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  August 13, 2018 8:09am
igm

So Gnashers and her sprog, along with bludging defacto, are not to be photographed by media unless authorised.
Good God, this morning Fairfax have the illegitimate trio adorning nearly every page. Talk about using a sprog in an attempt to thwart dwindling political popularity.
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August 3, 2018 8:14am
- Viking2
  
  I see the defacto has grown a beard.
  
  Beware of men with beards. They know not whom they are.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:45am
  - igm
    
    The beard is his answer to inclusiveness. Even Lees-Galloway wears one to be one of the “Boys” at the mosque.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:22am
- KevOB
  
  …not to be photographed by media unless authorised.
  
  Such authority requiring fees to be paid.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:28am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Not to be photographed by media …
  Any chance we could have a ban on reporting as well?
  
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  August 3, 2018 5:55pm
DigNap15

What is Stuff trying to do with another “article’ on Maori being ripped off.
Are they trying to incite riots or racial hatred?

I wish there was a NZ news site.
All we seem to get is opinion pieces and womens weekly style stories.
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August 3, 2018 8:16am
- brett68
  
  Sad to say, the women’s weekly style stories and click bait bullshit is what a large chunk of the population want to read.
  
  People who actually want to read informative news are dwindling away to nothing.
  
  NZ has turned into a country of self absorbed ignorant morons
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:41am
  - KevOB
    
    It’s all tabloid “journalism”. Even TVNZ has gone Page 3.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:31am
- Tarquin North
  
  I’ve been wondering about that. I think they’re getting that desperate for advertising revenue that they’ve thrown any credibility to the wind and just gone for outrageous click bait articles to try to drum up customers. The sooner they evaporate the better.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:41am
  - brett68
    
    Facebook and the terrabytes of data it holds on peoples interests, what the like, what they share is the driver behind what is presented as “news” these days.
    
    Terrifying as it is, what you see in the MSM is what people are actually interested in, serious news is out, shallow pap is in.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:52am
Chris R

Isn’t Simon Bridges an utter lightweight!! This week he has mouthed-off about class sizes in schools, something which has been screamed about by the vile teachers’ unions for a long time…then he becomes a proponent of dope legalisation. As a former Crown Prosecutor surely he’s heard the destructive nature of this so-called beneficial and peaceful narcotic. Bridges is too occupied being a flighty jerk to truly qualify as National’s leader. He’d make a great leader for Lab/Greens any day of the week. National aren’t going to take the next election with him in command.
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August 3, 2018 8:16am
- pdm
  
  I wish someone like Richard Prebble, Rodney Hide or even Judith Collins would take Bridges aside and teach him how to ask questions at Question Time.
  
  He could take Amy Adams with him and get coaching for two for the price of one maybe.
  
  At the moment both are an embarrassment in the house/
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:29am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Agree wholeheartedly pdm.
    I’ve been on the fence about Bridges, waiting for him to step up a couple of notches, but now that I know he’s a Baptist I think it’s time for him to go.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:59am
  - Nukuleka
    
    I like both Simon and Amy and in fact her speaking style on PQT is good. However many MPs sound as though have never even seen their questions before. They stutter and stammer with their heads down and are an embarrassment. For heavens sake practise in front of a mirror. Sound as though you have fire in your bellies.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:30am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Lessons from Chris Bishop?
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:14am
    - backster
      
      or Melissa Lee.
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:28am
  - KevOB
    
    Question time is being dictated by Speaker Mallard. Anything other than innocuous is likely out of order. A pompous pedanticism has damaged question time.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:35am
    - RF
      
      Sadly Mallard is nothing but a common thug.
      
      I look forward to the day he gets handed his arse.
      
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      August 3, 2018 12:41pm
      - igm
        
        He is no thug, he is a gutless wimp. His only front on confrontation was with a known coronary sufferer.
        
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        August 3, 2018 2:04pm
- Scott
  
  I like Simon Bridges, a good family man and a Baptist to boot! ?
  However National needs to stop pandering to the soft labour voter. Smaller class sizes and legalising marijuana for medical purposes won’t energise the base.
  
  Look our economy is going down the toilet. Beat that drum. Promise to do something about slashing burdensome regulations, Lower taxes, free up the economy. Watch our economy take off under National.
  
  Ditch these Labour losers, they cannot run a cake stall, let alone oversee our economy. This is the drum Bridges should be beating.
  
  National = prosperity for all. Labour = we will all be equally miserable!
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:30am
  - Chris R
    
    I agree. I am surprised by the number of down-votes my earlier post received!!!
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:34am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Haha Chris R!
      Don’t know why you are surprised. Give a different perspective on the workings of the National Party on here then you must be prepared for outraged pushback.
      Some say they welcome constructive “criticism” and thoughtful debate of the bigger picture – but they don’t really.
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:08am
      - Chris R
        
        Gravelroad: Sadly Gravel you are proven correct! Had I added to my first comment that I prefer Judith Collins to be National’s leader I expect I’d have been accused of being a blind fan of Cameron Slater (if not worse!)
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:24am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Scott,
    
    “I like Simon Bridges, a good family man and a Baptist to boot!”
    
    A Creationist to boot and what is magical being a Baptist?
    
    If he were like Bill a Catholic or John a …?
    
    Chris R , far too lefty .
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:44am
    - Jack5
      
      An Islamicist criticises a Baptist who is sceptical about the Theory of Evolution.
      
      Stephiestani logic.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:55am
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack5 , and one who attends a Christian church. You are making a lot of sense, yet again!
        
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        August 3, 2018 8:58am
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X, are you saying that you are a Christian?
        
        Glad you got out of Stephiestan safely. How do the rest of the Stephie team feel about working with a Kafir?
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:30am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Where’s the evidence that Simon Bridges is a creationist?
      And as you are so knowledgeable about other folks’ beliefs, what is our Prime-Minister’s view on the Theory of Evolution?
      
      Sources and citations needed,
      Tx
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:25am
  - Philview
    
    I like Simon as well. I can see he is in a tricky position as National has no coalition partners so is trying to appeal to swing voters. The trouble with the class size announcement is that Labour are already working on it. As a parent I am disappointed that he could be ok with the development of a cannabis industry that will be designed to target and grow a significant user base amongst our young people. All the pot heads I have met are greenies and socialists so I can see where this is going.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:53am
  - SGA
    
    a good family man and a Baptist to boot!
    
    Simon Bridges is very likely to be a decent, upright sort of guy (so this comment is in not directed at him – I don’t know him at all). That said, experience makes me wince whenever I hear NZ politicans described in such terms, sorry.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:29am
    - Scott
      
      SGA-Nothing wrong with being a man, nothing wrong with having a family. And he is married to his wife as opposed to another prominent politician who is not married and seems to have no intention of getting married. But was very vocal in campaigning that gays should be able to get married.
      
      And nothing wrong with being a Baptist. Or being a Christian generally. Many of our most prominent politicians have been Christians.
      
      Probably Helen Clarke stood out most for her agnosticism. I’m not sure about John Key? He would be quite happy going along to a Christian music festival like parachute. But then he was equally happy going to the Gay pride parade the next day. So never quite figured him out?
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:03am
  - KevOB
    
    A GFC is in the wings. In a few more months the real economic situation should be visible. Best to let Labour flounder around till then as they will not be able to handle what they are almost certainly facing.
    If any one of the COLL had any knowledge of economic history they would wanted to have avoided getting into government at this time.
    Perhaps the smarter ones have avoided it and we are left with the B Team.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:41am
  - realityczech
    
    “I like Simon Bridges”
    
    You are not alone. Polls show around 9% of people do.
    
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    August 3, 2018 12:45pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Simon a Baptist?
    It is my understanding that he attends the local Anglican Church. (unless he’s swapped 😉 )
    
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    August 3, 2018 12:45pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Simon’s father was a Baptist minister from out West Auckland.
      
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      August 3, 2018 1:45pm
- tf78
  
  I think Simon actually said because of his time as a prosecutor he had seen the damage first hand and that’s why he didn’t want to legalize cannabis, but thought medicinal cannabis could be helpful for some people.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:43am
- Viking2
  
  Marijuana has been fucked around with forever. Timne it was decriminalized and turned into tax money. And the same applies to “E”
  Why is some much meth around. Because E used to be the party drug of choice albeit not quality controlled.
  
  No more E or cough mixture now and we have a huge meth problem which is fucking stupid. Once again the Nats foolishness.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:50am
- Komata
  
  In light of Mr Bridges latest comments, can someone (anyone?) tell me exactly what the Nats actually stand for?
  
  Thanks.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:26am
  - stephieboy
    
    Komata, very simply a centre-right party. Not far right or alt-right as you might envisage.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:30am
    - Komata
      
      SB
      
      Thank you, but that’s actually not the reply I was seeking.
      
      What is the ‘Nats ‘Corporate Statement of Policy’ (Or its equivalent); what ‘Principles’ (if any) do they actually stand for, rather than being like a dog chasing the CoL bus, the current apparent modus operandi of Mr Bridges?
      
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      August 3, 2018 12:16pm
- Manolo
  
  Spot on.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:20am
Justitia

I finally did it. After a lifetime of subscribing to a daily newspaper I cancelled our subscription to the DimPost, and I feel good. No more will this biased, hard left excrement soil our coffee table. We are not saying goodbye to a newspaper but to a shabby little political pamphlet. Okay, we will need to find another source of newsprint for starting the fire and wrapping the scraps, and undergo therapy for a Pavlovian instinct to go searching the front lawn each morning. But it’s so worth it.
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August 3, 2018 8:18am
- kevn
  
  @Justitia… Our local rag, Rotorua Daily Ghost, so little content you can see through it
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:20am
  - sooty
    
    3 pkts of fire lighters at $3 each, will light your fires for the winter. $2 bundle of 50 plastic bags on trade me. Subscription for my rag is $430, which I do not get after 50yrs because it is shite. Written by kiddies who have no idea. The world it is a changing!
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:43am
    - Justitia
      
      Thanks for the tip Sooty. I will also be snapping up bundles of real estate advertising giveaways.
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:21am
- Inandout
  
  Join the queue Justitia, the Dompost/Herald are going down hill faster than than a wagon full of fat kids. Crunch time will be later this year or early next year when those dailies probably become 3 times a week publishers. Saturdays will remain broadsheet meantime because advertisers prefer the bigger displays.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:10am
- gorse
  
  I dumped The Press a couple of years ago. They spent a few months ringing me and hassling me to resubscribe. I had great pleasure each time explaining why I wouldn’t. However it all fell on deaf ears. The Press is a whole lot worse now than it was then. A real tabloid.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:54am
kevn

newsflash… Apple take over Tesla.
They’ve got the funds and the need to diversify.
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August 3, 2018 8:19am
- Colville
  
  And massive over pricing in both brands is driven by fanboi adulation so it’s a good fit.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:27am
  - Harkman
    
    So true, remember those lefty clowns waiting in line for the iPhone 4? Utter loosers, the definition of pathetic.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:03am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Apple at a trillion dollars, that is 1 and 12 zeros
    
    That is shit loads, 5 times the size of the NZ economy (?)
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:14am
- Inandout
  
  I await the iTesla.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:52am
gorse

Has ztev been banned from this siter? There was a mention a couple of days ago. How do you find out these things? I hope he/she has as threads were being destroyed by endless rubbish and insults by ztev(s)
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August 3, 2018 8:19am
- redeye
  
  Scroll to the bottom of this link.
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:43am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
  Strike 8 = 6 months holiday from 01/08/18.
  It will not be missed!
  Hey, you can even check if you yourself have been a naughty boy/girl
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:55am
  - dime
    
    lol not gonna miss him.
    
    stephie must be due for a strike.
    
    youll note Dime isnt on the list. DPF has too much love haha
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:28am
    - waikatogirl
      
      dime has mellowed! ?
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:44am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Correct WG.
        Must have been a good woman to settle him down.
        A song comes to mind.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0_ZL9tkgu4
        
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        August 3, 2018 12:53pm
    - stigie
      
      You’re not a man until you’re on the list Dime haha !~
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:49am
      - dime
        
        hold my beer
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:53am
      - Longknives
        
        Dumb question- But how do you know if you have Demerits or a Strike?
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:19am
      - dime
        
        longknives – bottom of the page
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/comments_policy
        
        nothing for you
        
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        August 3, 2018 11:12am
      - Longknives
        
        Cheers Dime!
        Seems my Record is as clean as Clarke Gayfords!!
        
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        August 3, 2018 12:36pm
    - Manolo
      
      I’m proud to be on the “undesirables” list! 🙂
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:18am
  - KiWombat
    
    I disagree Steve, he will be sadly missed !
    
    The stephies are not up to the same level of bile as the Z man (sam is just plain loopy), don’t have a patch on him really, and from time to time he does actually drop the facade and make some sense !
    
    And he was so easy to rark up – which was the reason for his downfall. But it is fun imagining his face getting redder and redder when he is on the losing side of an arguement ! Roll on February !
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:53am
    - Prince
      
      Yes very easy to rark up. Just mention Hutt South or Chris Bishop and he was away.
      Bishop win this week sent him over the edge.
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:26am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Trev is fucking borderline stupid – just an annoying shithead troll
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:50am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Yup, and when he gets back, no doubt he will mess up again because he is as fucken stupid as he is nasty and puerile. Strike 9 will be a year, and then its bye bye for ever….
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:41pm
oldpark

Seems NZs far left newspaper Wellingtons’ Dominion -Post cant get enough of the thirty eight year old woman known as Ardern. Talk about the emperor has no clothes.
Just a wee peep checking out her record as the Peters selected NZs PM.
First day he gave her the job,was also the first thing she did.
Jumped in a NZ taxpayer funded Limousine and made a bee line to the CTU.
Her words to them” thank you for your’e support go for it we are with you all the way”.
Since that after her unilateral decision in conjunction with her boss Peters she put the boot into Taranaki “OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION INDUSTRY”.That was just the start of NZs business economy confidence taking a hit. Going from top dog to whimpering pups.
Now the big payback Ardern promised to the unions to go for it. No wonder the lifeblood of NZ .Business confidence is in dire straights with uncertainity.
Wonder what part of the type of lifestyle and well being of NZs are under threat with the actions of Peters and Ardern and the coven from Green Party dosn’t the trade union infested far left newspaper Dominion Post not understand.Time they cancelled their fake news reporting and told the truth about Ardern and her gang of no hopers and NZs economy destroyers.
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August 3, 2018 8:19am
Left Right and Centre

Oh dear – I hate everything . . .
So I’m doing my business and the inside of the loo roll says it loves your bum.

I didn’t buy it and will get my own now.

What next – condoms, we love your penis ?
Tampons – we love your vagina ?
Sheesh takes an arsewipe to market them – someone make it stop right now.
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August 3, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  It was a note from Grant . . .
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:19am
holysheet

Jack woke up with a huge hangover after attending his company’s Christmas party. He didn’t even remember how he got home from the party.
As bad as he as feeling, he wondered if he did something wrong.
Jack had to force himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he saw was couple of aspirins next to a glass of water on the side table.
And, next to them, a single red rose! Jack sat up and saw his clothing in front of him, all clean and pressed.
He looked around the room and saw that it was in perfect order, spotlessly clean.
So was the rest of the house. He took the aspirins, and cringed when he saw a huge black eye staring back at him in the bathroom mirror.
Then he noticed a note hanging on the corner of the mirror written in red with little hearts on it and a kiss mark from his wife in lipstick:
“Honey, breakfast is on the stove. I left early to get groceries to make you your favorite dinner tonight. I love you, darling!”
He stumbled to the kitchen and sure enough, there was hot breakfast, steaming hot coffee and the morning newspaper. His son was also at the table, eating.
Jack asked, “Son, what happened last night?”
“Well, you came home after 3 A.M, drunk and out of your mind. You fell over the coffee table and broke it, and then you puked in the hallway, and got that black eye when you ran into the door.”
Confused, he asked his son, “So, why is everything in such perfect order and so clean? I have a rose, and breakfast is on the table waiting for me??
His son replied, “Oh THAT! Mum dragged you to the bathroom to clean you up, and when she tried to take your pants off, you screamed, ‘Leave me alone bitch, I’m married!”
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August 3, 2018 8:22am
- stephieboy
  
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  Snooze button alert!
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:31am
  - holysheet
    
    Yeah sorry, I forgot your goats cannot read.
    LOL
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:36am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Push it – see you tomorrow
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:59am
Paulus

I am wondering who is behind the wonderful Cindy in political terms – she hasn’ the brains to do many things she fronts.
For example who the hell gave Mahary the headship of Pharmac with the existing CEO leaving after many successful years, the envy of many countries ?
Are we still seeing Helen Clark and her Cindy office minder Heather Simpson behind much of this.
I am beginning to see the media move for the 2020 election whereby with enough changes we will be saddled with Cindy for a long time.
Any Opposition is already deemed irrelevant already.
Peters is still the n….r in the woodpile though – Shane will buy a Northland seat with our money so Peters can be wheeled in his chair any time he chooses to turn up.
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August 3, 2018 8:23am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Running interference from H1 and H2 IMO
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:02am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Are we still seeing Helen Clark and her Cindy office minder Heather Simpson behind much of this.
  
  I’m surprised you even have to ask that question Paulus. Even before Ardern took over the Labour leadership, it was clear who was pulling the strings. No less than Helen Clark and Michael Cullen were working the phones the night before Little was rolled, and they weren’t shoring up support for Little.
  
  Then, quick as you like, Heather Simpson appeared in Ardern’s office to bash heads together. Given that Grant Robertson was nicknamed H3 before he became an MP because of his closeness to Clark and Simpson and Ardern was Clark’s personal list pick in 2008, it’s pretty obvious that the former PM has unfinished business and is pulling the strings.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:09am
kiwitoffee

Is this supposed to be funny?

What on earth has this got to do with any general debate?
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August 3, 2018 8:30am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Life is meant to be lived, funny, joyous.
  
  And every now and then, a floater like you appears to remind us how good our lives are
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:24am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Lefties are born without a sense of humour. Sssshhh, you may trigger them
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:58am
flipper

Pretty much all mof btnhe abo.ve is on na mpar withcitybcounjcil ru7bhish. hestv we3 spend our time mon t5hijngs thjat5 matterm, albeit5 that e csnnot5 var4y them without5 bombarding SWcott Brown n….. 🙂

Gosh, oh golly, gee Wizz ……
Many US folks never do things by halves.
As much as I love the thrust of their excellent Constitution, I have trouble understanding the sense of the Congress passing enactments on matters such as law and order and immigration, only to see how some jumped up local pollies can ignore those laws, apparently with impunity. Well, ultimately that may not be the outcome, but the journey to a solution that is the best interests of their whole nation is seemingly so long and so convoluted that only the political activists, lawyers and criminals seem to benefit.
For me the most recent example is the concerted, nation-wide attack on ICE. Portland is known to be a politically idiosyncratic State, but for the Portland Police to be directed not to immediately intervene over the attack on ICE !!!!!
Lord help them (the USA , that is).

As for Trump, he could invent and provide FOC a universal cure for all cancers. But according toi the Dems and their MSM enablers, he would have done it for perverse ulterior motives. And don’t take me near the crazy Manafort business. Pathetic !!!
Oh well…….. It is theirn country, but their political, legal and economic health is important to all nations with a Western culture. There must be something in the Arizona water that breeds or attracts folks like Flake, or even Arpaio. ? McCain was once a sensible, worldly wise soul. But he is now clearly unfit to remain in office.

Then there is the issue of illegal aliens and the Sth Am killer gangs. The Californian idiots let them through a porous border and from there they poison every other State. So, as the mid-terms draw nigh I wonder about the sanity and the East and West coasts, and fret for the future of the USA …. and NZ et al.
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August 3, 2018 8:34am
- stephieboy
  
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  flipper , have no fairs and be of good cheer the US President and our PM Jacinda are best buddies!
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:38am
  - Jack5
    
    What are these “fairs” ye speak of, Stephie X.
    
    Obvious roster change at the Stephiestani Trolls Syndicate. We have on duty the Stephie with real late-Raj era English: “have no fairs [sic], and be of good cheer.”
    
    Right-oh, old fellow.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:02am
    - calendar girl
      
      The word ‘fairs’ is ok; it’s ‘cheer’ that he got mixed up – that should be ‘chair’.
      
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      August 3, 2018 4:51pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Yep. Taxinda wants to marry Trump and ditch Gaylord. I don’t think Melania has much to worry about.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:42am
Monique Watson

Haha, @Holysheet. That describes my night out last night playing Bocce, Except I’m not a drinker unless I saddle up with at least 100mg of an endorphin blocker called Naltrexone.
The roses were from my own garden.
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August 3, 2018 8:40am
flipper

The (my) post above actually read …..

Pretty much all of the above is on a par with city council rubbish. Best that we spend our time on ings that matter, albeit that we cannot var4y them without bombarding Scott Brown …. :

Oh for a working edit system !
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August 3, 2018 8:46am
Monique Watson

The Prez is no buddy of the Cinder Fairy. She’s a knock-off of Helen.A shit of Lange. Anyone who is anyone in politics knows this, Shes no fuckin’ WonderWoman.
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August 3, 2018 8:50am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Monique Watson,
  
  The Prez thinks differently,
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/07/revealed-the-two-letters-donald-trump-has-sent-to-jacinda-ardern.html
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:54am
  - Jack5
    
    “Dear Ms. Prime Minister” … that said it all.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:00am
  - Harkman
    
    They are generic letters, Trumpy probably wasn’t even informed about it being sent.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:08am
secondcumming

Has anyone else here been in the same boat?

My missus has been at me for yonks to see a GP and get a general check-up. I finally relented and went earlier this week. His nurse phone me back yesterday, but as I said to her, “Well how was I supposed to know….isn’t it what he asked for?”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjaVChYXoAACIeg.jpg
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August 3, 2018 8:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Back when I was nurse-aiding, we had to ask each patient if he had passed a motion that day.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Damodm-ec
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:12am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Yeah Maggy.
    When I was in hospital several years ago recovering from a knee operation, I was asked if I had passed wind yet since the op.
    I said, “Gimme a bloody break – I’ve just had a knee replacement, and you want me to pass wind? I can barely hobble – let alone run.”
    
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    August 3, 2018 1:06pm
wiseowl

In the interests of our nation but no coverage.
Global Compact on Immigration.
I Australia Dutton is being questioned about this Compact that is being discussed with the United Nations.
I bet NZ have been involved possibly with National in the last couple of years.
The UN wants an International Organisation for Immigration which will make decisions and directives on immigration thus taking it out of our hands.
This is a direct threat to our sovereignty !
This whole idea is scandalous and if National were in on these discussions New Zealanders should know.
The UN have requested that countries review immigration according to international law.
We never voted for the UN and our politicians should have nothing to do with this move.
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August 3, 2018 9:00am
Poppa

Meanwhile the economy is tanking…..

GDP growth could now head toward the 1’s rather than 2’s when most developed countries are looking at 3-4.

It has only taken them 9 months to this point, think what they can achieve in 3 years. Recession anyone?

When you look at what National achieved & the state of the economy when they departed it is really quite frightening

That reminds me, I need to go to the bank & get some US$
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August 3, 2018 9:01am
- Harkman
  
  Probably won’t be a recession Poppa, stats NZ is corrupt and full of Labour party cronies.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:10am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  The little short one said there will be a recession, and it will not be his fault.
  Pre warned of a fuckup in the planning stages
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:14am
- Philview
  
  Before my time but I have heard that back in the 1970s we needed Government permission to take money out of the Country. Maybe this will be the next phase and you will need permission from the Comrades to get your US$s.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:59am
  - rangitoto
    
    Correct. If you asked nicely you were allowed to take a small amount of cash to go on holiday in Australia. That applied in the 60’s as well.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:50am
    - jcuk
      
      Those were the days of the British five bob postal note that folk collected to get money overseas.
      One at a time from a different post office each day.
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:29pm
- gorse
  
  Better go to the bullion dealer and get some gold. Our currency could be valueless soon
  
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  August 3, 2018 5:21pm
Captain Mainwaring

Many of us like to think we’re not a third world country but certain things remind us that we definitely are.
Such as allowing the importation and use of 20 year old buses that have been flogged to death in Japan and would otherwise be on a scrapheap.
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August 3, 2018 9:09am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I remember those nasty little Diana diesel trucks in Tokyo, with their horrible diesel fumes.
  Then I come out to live in Auckland and there are all these crappy old Diana trucks from Japan with their stinky diesel sooty fumes. (Imported from Japan.)
  
  You just can’t win…
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:17pm
dime

The Herald can just go and fucking die.

Top story – something about a judge.

Second story – clark gaylord has grown a beard. apparently “and we aren’t mad about it.”

Just die.
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August 3, 2018 9:10am
- alex Masterley
  
  It is shite at the moment.
  More women’s weekly than newspaper. even the racing pages aren’t much chop any more.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:21am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Tabloid in size, tabloid by nature.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:11am
    - stephieboy
      
      Like the alt-right staple New York Post , Daily Mail, Sun and Mirror?
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:14am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        At least the Sun had tits whereas the Auckland newspaper is ‘written’ by tits
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:30am
      - rangitoto
        
        Ctrl-left stephie squawked.
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:53am
      - Jack5
        
        As the Jacinderella mania recurs, let’s hope TV1 news announcer fluffs out: “The latest Neves will be screened at 10pm. Stay tuned.”
        
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        August 3, 2018 2:13pm
Harkman

Paul Manafort, he was campaign manager for two months, then a paper did an exposé on all his links to the Ukraine and Trump quietly fired him. Hence Bannon and Kellyanne Conway took over. Then the Ukrainians began helping the Clinton campaign. What a waste of money.
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August 3, 2018 9:15am
- Philview
  
  The biggest win for Russia has been the investigation into Trump. The ongoing destabilising and undermining of a presidency is strategically very clever. It makes Putin’s presidency look like a model of stable government.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:52am
dime

Does anyone know much about these E-1 & E-2 visas?

What is a substantial amount?

If Dime invests a million bucks in setting up in the US, would that get him over the line?

Is 500k substantial? or is it more like 5 mill?
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August 3, 2018 9:21am
- DigNap15
  
  The visas I don’t like are the ones they give to students from a certain sub continent, who want to bring their third world relatives here to bludge of us.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:59am
EAD_TWO

Great humour from Australian Patriot Blair Cotterell:

https://mobile.twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/1024487425949626368

Is your neighbour a far-right extremist?
Warning signs:
-Abstains from drugs & alcohol
-Has a job
-Is physically fit
-Can sometimes be seen reading books
-Has children which appear to be ethnically the same as them (this is usually a dead giveaway)

Report to your local Antifa
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August 3, 2018 9:21am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, tell us about your reading staple? Vegetarian, teetotal ( like Muslims)? Physical fitness specs?
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:20am
  - Inandout
    
    Seems not all Muskets are non drinkers.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/oct/08/drinkers-islam-palestinian-beerfest-alcohol
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:50am
  - Longknives
    
    Does creeping round behind young Girls at St Luke’s Mall count as physical exercise Stephie??
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:51am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      And today’s word NUBILE is brought to you by the letter… N.
      
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      August 3, 2018 5:40pm
- Longknives
  
  ‘Showers/Bathes at least once a day’ should be on that list as well EAD!
  *I’ve never smelt Body Odour quite like walking past Aotea Square during the ‘Occupy’ Protest-
  Not even the stench of Cannabis was drowning it out..
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:38am
  - Elaycee
    
    I’ve never smelt Body Odour quite like walking past Aotea Square during the ‘Occupy’ Protest- Not even the stench of Cannabis was drowning it out..
    
    Ain’t that the truth!
    
    I happened to walk past the same area at the time and the stench was gut wrenching. It was also obvious that a nearby stairwell had become the communal toilet – it totally honked.
    
    I pity the poor sods who had to clean it up.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:32am
Jack5

The New York Times under fire for hiring white-hating reporter:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/02/new-york-times-hypocrites-knowingly-hire-racist-writer-who-wants-to-cancelwhitepeople.html
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August 3, 2018 9:26am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Still keeps her job though.
  
  Compare and contrast with the case of Kevin Myers who was fired for merely mentioning that the highest paid woman at the BBC happened to be a Jew – such is the power of International Jewry.
  
  https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/kevin-myers-eager-critics-should-feel-ashamed-of-themselves/
  
  Despite what the Jewish owned media would have you believe – Whites are the most persecuted race in the world.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO , “such is the power of International Jewry.” ??
    
    Such is the power of your paranoia!
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:21am
- Inandout
  
  I would wager most NY Times readers were white Jewish, given they make up a large portion of the city. Another newspaper we can kiss bye bye.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:56am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Errrrrr – Last time I checked Jews have never considered themselves “White” (unless trying to install collective guilt upon the white populace)
    
    https://forward.com/scribe/388791/im-not-white-im-jewish/
    
    You not heard of the “Dear fellow White People” meme:
    
    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fellow-white-people-arent-you-jewish
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:47pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Christchurch former central area … The Bureaucrats Bog … continued …

Johnny Moore: (Christchurch) Rebuild roosters hurting CBD hospitality | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/105921739/johnny-moore-rebuild-roosters-hurting-cbd-hospitality

… extracts …

… The most destructive thing for central city hospitality has been the rebuild. Whether Cera, Otakaro, or the lousy city council, those charged with helping us have fumbled their way across the central city, leaving a trail of destroyed businesses in their wake.

A few less consultations for the sake of saying you’ve consulted or hacks selling future utopia and a few more on the end of shovels would have seen a better result.

The roosters charged with rebuilding have been so obsessed with master plans, visions and blueprints that they’ve failed to recognise that those doing business in the current environment want to be a part of the future city, want to be the genesis of the future city.

An obsession with removing parking from the street, parking wardens aggressively and vindictively targeting streets where life is peeping through, bike lanes at the expense of everything else and a dogged determination to have hacks with no skin-in-the-game lecture business owners on how to run a business will ensure that more good hospitality businesses go the way of the Neanderthal. … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 3, 2018 9:26am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I don’t often uptick you Hugh, but I did then.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:50am
Manolo

The harsh reality of high debt. Sooner than later Trump will have to face reality:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/02/the-trump-administration-is-headed-for-a-gigantic-debt-headache.html

Swelling government debt levels are shaping up to be the biggest economic challenge for President Donald Trump, a problem that could spill into the stock market.
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August 3, 2018 9:31am
- Harkman
  
  The problem was the QE and 0% interest rates under Obama for many years. It created an artificial reality.
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:38am
- cmm
  
  Funny how the leftie media didn’t worry about the debt under Obama.
  
  The fact of the matter is that USA has been set up over the last two administrations (Bush & Obama) as high deficit economies. You can’t unwind that overnight.
  
  Once the economy is doing Ok (it is way improved recently), they can start to wind in the deficit. When they get to surplus they can start to wind in debt.
  
  Hopefully they can do that before it is terminal.
  
  Americans already owe $US 175k per taxpayer. That’s a hell of a burden to wind in.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:19am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, your solutions? Slash and burn federal spending part from naturally defence? ( Some 50-60% of the budget )
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:35am
    - cmm
      
      Yes, they absolutely need to slash defence, especially that retarded F35 program.
      
      BTW: The US defence spending is way lower than it was on average during Obama’s time.
      
      But they also need to cut a lot of other spending too.
      
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      August 3, 2018 12:45pm
    - Kiwi Dave
      
      The military’s 50-60% of the budget is for discretionary spending only. In the whole budget, when mandatory spending is included, the military figure for 2015 was 16% plus another 6% for veterans’ benefits.
      
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      August 3, 2018 7:28pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yep, Obama doubled the debt that previously took the U.S over 200 years to amass. Obama managed to double it in 8 years.
    
    http://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-national-debt-by-year/
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:39am
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch , untrue!
      
      Don’t Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Deficit
      
      Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that is close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different.
      
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/01/15/obamas-federal-debt-grew-at-a-slower-rate-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/#55dcc7ee1917
      
      Now how exactly will Trump half it?
      
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      August 3, 2018 10:43am
      - rangitoto
        
        “numerically correct”
        
        You must hate that Stephieboy. Please teacher says Stephieboy, 1 + 1 = 2 isn’t fair. I want 1 + 1 = 5.
        
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        August 3, 2018 11:39am
Harkman

So I was sitting in traffic on Papanui Rd in Merivale yesterday and I could hear sirens but I couldn’t see any flashing lights coming. Anyhow I cut off Papanui Rd and headed down McDougall Ave to Browns Rd just where Hawkesbury Ave meets (which is about 600m long and runs directly to the western side of Rugby park, where the Crusaders train). Interestingly, for years Richie lived in one these houses. Three houses from the Browns Rd corner on the southern side is where Labour mp Duncan Webb lives. Anyhow, as I pulled onto Hawkesbury Ave I noticed on the northern side about 100m down was a sh!t load of police officers (like 12), sniffer dogs and they’d cuffed a tall white guy, mid 40s, dark hair with a mullet cut (must have been his crime) and he was wearing a nock-off Chicago singlet from the Warehouse. He looked really dumb. But the police resources for one man? WTF?
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August 3, 2018 9:32am
- howitis
  
  He might have been using a plastic straw , or
  he was in possession of three ‘single use’ plastic bags, or
  was intent on boarding a plane for the purpose of flying to Auckland to see Lauren Southern.
  All crimes against the outraged today, 2018.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:11am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    Nah, he is probably guilty of being a white heterosexual male. Why do you think the CoL want to empty the prisons? It’s to make space for their real enemy.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:44am
- Longknives
  
  You’re complaining about too many Cops chasing the bad guy??
  Jesus be Thankful mate!
  In Auckland they would probably be too busy with their ‘Hip Hop’ Dancing practice or compulsory Mosque training to even send one car…
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:32am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Seen how many it takes to do anything on the Auckland motorway?
  
  There are minders in the flashing light trucks!
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:36am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Monkey Mob must have done a few burglaries, so the Police made out they were too busy to investigate
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:23am
Stars And Stripes

Give far-right pair a primetime TV slot – Garner
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/give-far-right-pair-a-primetime-tv-slot-garner/ar-BBLq7Nu?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=spartandhp

A good commentary on the issue from Duncan Garner who seems to have a good grip on what the free speech debate is really about.
Something people who support de-platforming and the like(and there have been a handful on this forum) should read and try to come to terms with.
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August 3, 2018 9:41am
- howitis
  
  I had the Teev on this morning from 6.50 to 7.20 am on Mediaworks AM
  Mark Richardson is a hard shot.
  In that time Duncan Donut gave pretty much wall to wall coverage of the event being held this evening.
  Even in the ‘top five items’ at 7.06 Molyneux and Southern were Numbers 1 and 2.
  Then he interviewed Paul Moon, historian, about them.
  Ruby Lips was aghast so that is a win.
  
  I wonder what that advertising was worth for the event.
  We taxpayers subsidise TV3 at $400,000 per week via NZ on Air.
  That is a fair chunk for nurses pay.
  [NZ on Air $130m pa. plus Maori TV – there s $200 million p.a. that could be used better]
  
  The article you point to S and S is pretty hate filled by TV3 repeater critters:
  Extracts :-
  “Ms Southern is best-known for trying to prevent the rescue of migrants and refugees at risk of drowning in the Mediterranean.”
  
  “Mr Molyneux believes white people are undergoing a deliberate genocide, some races have lower IQs than others and women are to blame for violent men.”
  
  Some might call Garner the poor man’s Paul Henry.
  I think it is more that Garner is the bankrupt man’s Paul Henry.
  Southern and Molyneux have ‘done a Trump’ on the media.
  They have raised the flag up the flagpole and the media follow with endless reporting.
  The media however don’t control the narrative as they normally try to do.
  They snipe from the safety of Mum’s attic.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:03am
  - waikatogirl
    
    I think Duncan was hoping for a free ticket to attend.
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:05pm
Fletch

Tommy Robinson on the appalling treatment he suffered in prison. In solitary confinement 23 and a half hours a day and he lost twenty kilograms in weight.

“They moved me from HMP Hull, which was a 7 percent Muslim population, to the most densely Muslim-populated prison in the country,” he claimed.

“I had threats every day… I couldn’t have my cell windows open because they would be spat through or shit put through, so I had my windows shut all the time,” he said, describing how he struggled with the recent heatwave as a result.

Robinson described this confinement as “23 and a half hours a day, locked in a room [with] a blue mat… and then for thirty minutes a day they open the door and you walk into a cage… small, and you walk around the cage on your own, and then they open the door and lock you back in.”

The Englishman appeared visibly disturbed while recounting his incarceration.

“If every prisoner had that… If that was the sentence for prisoners…” he began, falteringly.

“It was the fact that every other prisoner’s cell door opens at 8 o’clock in the morning and they’re out of their cell working, having football, playing pool, and then they get locked up at 6 o’clock at night,” he finally explained.

“And then I think, I haven’t done anything — but because they’ve brought me to a Muslim-run prison, they’ve used the excuse that this is why they have to [keep me confined].”

Robinson said he could not eat the food which was sent to his cell in case it was poisoned — having been prepared, he said, by Muslim prisoners, who would goad him by asking “How’s your dinner, Tommy?”

He instead subsisted on a tin of tuna a day, as it came sealed and he could be reasonably sure of its safety, plus some fruit.

Levant said that Robinson, who looked far leaner than when he went inside two months ago, had told he had dropped fully 42 pounds — around three stones, or twenty kilograms.

“Tommy knows that he was messed up… I don’t think he even knows how badly,” commented Levant after the interview.

“I think his health has been permanently affected, and that was on purpose,” he added.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/02/tommy-robinson-solitary-confinement-23-5-hours-excrement-window/
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August 3, 2018 9:50am
- brett68
  
  I think Tommy Robinson is mentally fucked, he knows they could do this again to him at any time and for any reason.
  
  This was designed to break him and it’s probably worked.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:05am
- brett68
  
  I think Tommy Robinson is mentally fucked, he knows they could do this again to him at any time and for any reason.
  
  This was designed to break him and it’s probably worked
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:18am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, Tommy Robinson is a convicted felon and fraudster that includes passport and mortgage fraud.
  
  We could add the need to adopt numerous aliases.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:25am
  - Inandout
    
    Yes stephie, and most of Robinson’s fellow prisoners were Muslim, perhaps jailed for raping small white children or throwing acid over some female.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:03am
    - Jack5
      
      Stephie X’s 10.25 post includes:
      
      “We could add the need to adopt numerous aliases.”
      
      Stephie X, Stephie Y, Stephie X …. hypocrites. So many of you are sharing the Stephieboy alias.
      
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      August 3, 2018 1:49pm
- Scott
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZZD89ucoI
  
  Tucker Carlson interviews Tommy on Fox News
  
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  August 3, 2018 2:48pm
Fletch

Jordan Peterson debates an obnoxious Kiwi-born professor working in Canada – a ‘transgender’ woman dressed as a man. What a little bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civE8_5SDYg
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August 3, 2018 9:53am
- secondcumming
  
  What a nasty little prick that gender-queer weasel is.
  Canada deserves him……stay there!!
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:08am
  - secondcumming
    
    Honestly Maggy, you couldn’t make this shit up!
    I see it sez the professor’s interests include a focus on ‘black holes’ 😎
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:12am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Zir’s an expert on deformed twists/ twisted deformations of black holes.
      https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.5790
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:29am
    - Jack5
      
      The transgender academic in the TV discussion with Peterson is entitled to his/her opinion, but why did she have to bring New Zealand into the discussion as though we in this country accept the use of invented pronouns?
      
      Peterson is correct on the point of honorifics (Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms etc).
      
      The moderator was biased, saying that as an Asian, language changed, and suggesting the word “oriental” is no long acceptable.
      
      Canada is rooted.
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:01pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Professor A.W. Peet
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.W._Peet
  
  Wonder if Kea knows eir/hir.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:32am
  - marcw
    
    Why did I think we now have our own ‘Sheldon’ … bazzunga!
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:55am
  - Jack5
    
    Peet’s into string theory. ‼️Kea‼️ might be able to tie him/her up in knots.
    
    ?Is string theory a gender bender?
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:07pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I suppose it all depends on the how “it” vibrates, and which of the 11 dimensions he feels comfortable in.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:24pm
kowtow

There are some dangerous bastards out there.

And the scum they put away aren’t much better.

‘The victim, who was punched six times and had her head stomped on, suffered a cracked cheekbone and eye socket, a broken nose and split lip, the Dunedin District Court heard this week.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/judge-admits-bailing-teen-was-wrong
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August 3, 2018 9:58am
- cmm
  
  Well it is certainly good to see a judge put his hand up and recognise that the judiciary is part of the problem.
  
  Hopefully he’ll talk to other judges too and they’ll all start to realise that crims are not just like everyone else.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:11am
- Longknives
  
  But Jacinda and Andrew Little want everyone Bailed remember?
  Locking people up ‘Just isn’t Fair’ blah blah…
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:25am
Poppa

How many houses have you built this week Phil?

Just asking because that counter is getting alarmingly high at over 7700.

Yeah I know there was a bit of a hiccup with Ebert going down the plughole & you had spouted how they were going to build some of your slums. Perhaps you need to do some due diligence Phil
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August 3, 2018 10:21am
Stars And Stripes

The winner of today’s irony award goes to Mrs Brown Davis from Tamaki Anti Fascist Action speaking on the AM Show for this little beauty.
“Ms Brown-Davis says protesters represent community, cultural and activist groups and they’re planning to demonstrate TOLERANCE.
“They’re not welcome in Aotearoa,” she said.

Where would society get it’s laughs everyday if we did not have stupid people.
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August 3, 2018 10:29am
- mandk
  
  78% of people voting in the Newshub poll don’t seem to have a problem with them being in New Zealand.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:20am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    It’s now 80/20. I Suspect this is going to end badly for the Anti Free Speech Facists on the Left.
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:21pm
DJ Ward

Just and idea. I know you’ll hate it.

We have about 10500 diary farms and let’s say another 9500 suitable dry stock farms. 20,000.

A 100 HA diary farm is about $3,000,000 dollars so about $30,000 a HA.

Pass a law bypassing councils and thier ripoff fees that allow every one of these farms to create 10 1000m2 sections. Base price $3,000. Plus power, transformer, lines, a community septic, and survey. Base price of $30,000 ready to go sections. Allow some profit $20,000 a section. Make them rates exempt until date of purchase from farmer.

Result is 200,000 $50,000 sections.
$10,000,000,000 of economic activity.

Housing crisis solved.
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August 3, 2018 10:30am
DigNap15

Where is this Aotearoa ?
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August 3, 2018 10:31am
- stephieboy
  
  DiNap5 , right under your trots.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:38am
  - Fletch
    
    The land of the long white abbreviation – A O T R O A
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:04am
- MCos
  
  You’re in it.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:43am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    It was New Zealand when I was born. When did it change?
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:01am
    - Brigitte
      
      Actually Aotearoa was the first name given by Captain Cook. When he arrived he was having trouble getting sleep thanks to the aggressive natives in their wakas.
      
      One night he found what appeared to be an empty cove so he put down anchor and went below to get some kip whilst the crew remained to decide on a name for this new land. But he was soon interrupted by the bosun who said they were being approached by an angry native. Cook’s reply was:
      
      Eh? Oh, a terror rower.
      
      And the name stuck.
      
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      August 3, 2018 11:22am
- DJ Ward
  
  It’s a clash of clans term for its not working.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:49am
cmm

So the most transparent government ever has banned people from taking unauthorised pictures.

Mallard also says he wants to make the Beehive more family friendly. WTF! It’s parliament. It’s not a creche or petting zoo!
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August 3, 2018 10:35am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Well it is not a petting zoo although it is full of little monkeys flinging poo and bearing their brightly coloured bums to all and sundry.
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:43am
- Komata
  
  cmm
  
  Now that ms A has returned with her new ‘pet’ |(‘fashion accessory’ / ‘useful item’ / ‘distractent’) it has become exactly that.
  
  I feel very sorry for the child, but you can be certain that the ‘caring’ feminists won’t even give it a thought…
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:44am
- KevOB
  
  What is it with the ‘ei katu (head crown flower garlands) now being worn in the NZ Parliament?
  
  These are a Rarotanga customary item with local rules. They are not allowed in their churches. Are Maori trying to appropriate Rarotonga? Even a green member was wearing one. Following the Rarotangan practice a male MP had one without flowers. Some of the women MP’s had a flower about their ear–a tricky practice with significance.
  
  Has Parliament become a school playground? Where’s the decorum?
  
  Could it be a prelude to Jacinderellas return?
  
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  August 3, 2018 12:20pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The rot started when they let women in 100 years ago.
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:23pm
Longknives

Sarah Dowie has put some pretty umm ‘Racy’ photos on her FB page.
Not sure what she is up to- No complaints from me though..
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August 3, 2018 10:35am
- DJ Ward
  
  I was hoping it was going to be a swimsuit edition. You are clearly easily excited, possibly infatuated?Maybe we will see more boob in parliament next week.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:18am
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha I’ve known Sarah since Varsity days.-So I’m not infatuated at all mate! She looks great though and I was just wondering what it was all about..
    *As an aside- Could you imagine any of the sourface Labour Women doing a shoot like that? Maybe Mahuta? Sepuloni??
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:43am
    - RF
      
      Her father Alan is a real good bugger. Was once one of Dunedin’s finest…..
      
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      August 3, 2018 12:45pm
      - Longknives
        
        Apparently Ardern’s Old Man was a respected Police Officer as well RF?
        Jesus what happened there? Imagine spending your life fighting the good fight (and seeing those things only Cops see) and your kid turns out a bleeding heart Crim Hugger…
        
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        August 3, 2018 1:25pm
      - RF
        
        Ross Ardern is considered to be an OK guy who has had his hands full with the chic who dumped the Mormon church and found Marxism much to the families disgust.
        
        According to those that knew her she was a nasty piece of work who would throw you under a bus if you got in her way.
        
        There are other stories about her but nothing out of the ordinary as everyone has had a sordid past at some stage. She is definately not a goody two shoes.
        
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        August 3, 2018 8:35pm
cas

Just been looking around the stuff website. not at all tempted by the wall to wall of Joseph, Mary and Baby Jesusette but can recommend the Friday furry cats in front of the fire.
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August 3, 2018 10:49am
DJ Ward

A good read by someone well educated on the subject of sexual behavours.
Not a Women’s Studies PH.D. But actual knowledge called science.
Also covers only one aspect of toxic femininity.

https://quillette.com/2018/07/09/on-toxic-femininity/
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August 3, 2018 11:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

Catholic Church changes its teaching on the death penalty.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/02/pope-francis-changes-church-teaching-on-death-penalty
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August 3, 2018 11:09am
- secondcumming
  
  Silly old bastard 🙂
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:25am
- peterwn
  
  This is a shining example of a Faith moving with the times. If only Islamic leaders would do similar rather than remaining fixated with medieval beliefs and practices.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:25am
- kowtow
  
  More than a few evil bastards deserve to swing.
  
  By doing away with the death penalty and hard time politicians have simply made society dangerous for law abiding citizens , they are failing in their basic duty and agruably have caused even more innocents to be killed , robbed and maimed by the lawless, the vicious , the nasty and evil.
  
  #notmypope.
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:44am
  - DigNap15
    
    Many countries have the death penalty.
    India, Japan, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the USA
    It needs to be compulsory.
    
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    August 3, 2018 12:16pm
    - Jack5
      
      The Vatican used a nasty form of capital punishment: mazzatello. In this, the condemned person was whacked on the head with a mallet, then had his/her throat cut.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazzatello
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5, pretty standard fare in Medieval Europe but sure doesn’t beat hanging, drawing and quartering invented by the English,
        
        https://gesteofrobinhood.com/2017/08/31/hangd-drawn-and-quartered-spectacular-justice-during-the-medieval-and-early-modern-period/
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:31pm
- DigNap15
  
  Gee I wonder how many people the Catholic church put to death in horrible ways during the Inquistion etc?
  
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  August 3, 2018 12:14pm
  - stephieboy
    
    DiNap15 , the Catholic Church has come along, long way since the middle ages including an apology to the Jews for any omission by their part for their plight under the Nazis.
    
    Support for the abolition of the death penalty is also progress.
    
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    August 3, 2018 3:28pm
  - kowtow
    
    Not many , as I understand it once you were found guilty by the church courts you’d be handed over to the secular authorities for the execution.
    
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    August 3, 2018 6:17pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Actually, the Pope is wrong here – it contradicts Scripture and the Magisterium, and no Pope can do this on his own – popes can be wrong in what they express as their own opinion.
  I have to say that, IMO, Francis is an embarrassment to the majority of Catholics in the way he expresses his own views as the teaching of the Church.
  
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  August 3, 2018 5:54pm
dime

Trump Approval at 50% — 5 POINTS HIGHER THAN OBAMA at Same Point in His Presidency

just sayin 🙂
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August 3, 2018 11:22am
- DigNap15
  
  Great news, links please!
  
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  August 3, 2018 11:27am
  - dime
    
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug02
    
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    August 3, 2018 12:22pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Aggregated polls show 53% disapproval vs 42%approval. Looks like Trump at this point is the least popular since Gerald Ford.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:28pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘The polls missed Donald Trump’s election. Individual polls missed, at the state level and nationally (though national polls weren’t far off). So did aggregated polls. So did poll-based forecasts such as ours. And so did exit polls.’
      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-missed-trump-we-asked-pollsters-why/
      
      Not sure 538’s aggregate Polling is accurate. I reckon you get too much ‘noise’ in the data when you aggregate numerous Polls.
      Rasmussen was the most accurate for the Election.
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:43pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        538 doesn’t rate that poll very highly. And 538 is quite good at showing the range of polling scores. I think it would be rash to proclaim Trump as ‘popular’ on the basis of one or two polls outside the longer run calculations.
        
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        August 3, 2018 2:59pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘One or two’
        Rasmussen polls on the Presidential rating every day. They are the only one to do so.
        Saw that rating by 538. Puzzling really as Rasmussen was the most accurate Polling company during the Election where by their own admission 538 was out
        I still don’t think aggregate Polling is that precise.
        I g
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:04pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Wonder why there aren’t many female doctors in Japan?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/02/tokyo-medical-school-changed-test-scores-to-keep-women-out
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August 3, 2018 11:33am
- DJ Ward
  
  Well there’s no proof yet. Just an allegation.
  
  If however it is true, and it looks likely that some manipulation is taking place then I would expect the woman hating bigot to be promptly fired.
  
  We don’t need this rubbish.
  
  Quotas on gender as in Labour, Greens candidates are equally offensive.
  Bais in prosecutions and sentencing, bias in parenting rulings, bias in police DV behavour against men is just as abhorrent.
  
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  August 3, 2018 12:00pm
- Johnboy
  
  They probably pixelated the ladies scorecards too! 🙂
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:01pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It is not logical to expend resources on doctors who will leave the profession after a couple of years, never to return.
  (Of course, if they do return to full-time work after a couple of years, then I can’t see a problem.)
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:13pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    All the female doctors I know have stayed in the profession (in some form or another) after having children.
    
    Might be different in Japan where married women are often expected to give up their careers.
    
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    August 3, 2018 6:21pm
dime

Trump got a dynamite GDP number last quarter — and early signs point to the next one being even better

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-gdp-growth-q3-third-quarter-strong-2018-8?r=US&IR=T

how upsetting for Democrats! america doing well. that will kill them.

As much as I detest our current govt, id love to see them slaying it economically. you have to go full retard to wish bad shit on your own country just cause you don’t like the people running it
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August 3, 2018 12:24pm
- softail 1450
  
  dime, absolutely it would be like being on an aircraft at 30,000 feet and hoping the pilot is going to crash the plane.
  We can only hope that the C O L get lucky…….
  
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  August 3, 2018 12:42pm
realityczech

Islam is based on the Jewish old testament and Islam only developed after exposure to Judaism and Christianity. Clearly the Arabs preferred Judaism.

Before Islam: When Saudi Arabia Was a Jewish Kingdo

The discovery of the oldest-known pre-Islamic Arabic writing in Saudi Arabia, from ca. 470 CE, evidently caused some consternation, given its Christian and Jewish context.
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August 3, 2018 12:34pm
realityczech

This time line shows how arbitrary and recent the Jewish (Egyptian) claim to Israel is.

“Jerusalem has been captured and recaptured at least 20 times. It’s been claimed by about as many countries and empires, and by three of the world’s major religions.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/05/jerusalem-history-israel-capital/923651001/
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August 3, 2018 12:36pm
Poppa

Haha bloody hilarious. Power is out in Wellington CBD including parliament. Get a taste of that you bastards

That is just a small taste of what could happen when gas runs out and there is not enough power. Too late now though, chompers made a captains call
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August 3, 2018 1:11pm
- Doubledimp
  
  Actually, I am wondering who will crack first while being denied the oxygen of the media for 2 – 3 hours, Jacinda or Winston? (Forgot, Cindy is in Auckland until tomorrow).
  
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  August 3, 2018 1:14pm
  - Poppa
    
    I think Peters is overseas now, probably sharing a beverage or two with his pal suds Soper
    
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    August 3, 2018 1:28pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Oh noes, how will any work get done in the CBD?
  
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  August 3, 2018 2:31pm
slightlyrighty

I see Southern and Molyneax have cancelled again as the Militant Leftists have made the event impossible.
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August 3, 2018 2:40pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  What a shame.
  
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  August 3, 2018 2:43pm
  - CharlieBrown
    
    I guess your happy that authoritarian thugs won the day. If this continues there will be blood, silencing large potions of society never ends well.
    
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    August 3, 2018 2:51pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I really don’t care, do u?
      
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      August 3, 2018 2:55pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        If you can’t see why this is on-principle a bad thing, then you need to have a good hard think about the checks and balances that act within our society to prevent the rise of totalitarianism. Remember the words of Pastor Niemöller.
        
        All the intolerant lefties with special pleadings for why dissenters from their world view should be treated differently tan their own tribe are some combination of stupid, hypocritical and actively evil.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:07pm
      - stephieboy
        
        UN, just let us know when you suspect the NKVD black Marias will be arriving to pick you up in the dead of night.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:16pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        The only part of this cared about was that local or central government was not preventing free speech. I don’t have a problem with speech being so unpopular that people don’t want to host it becasue of the backlash. No one is preventing Southern and Molyneux from speaking – their message is attracting vigorous protest, that’s all.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:17pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        MMA: There was an apparently large interested audience but a small group of well connected and commercially powerful self elected guardians of propriety have dictated who shall and shall not be allowed to hold a meeting.
        
        This is still the thug’s veto being exercised just via financial threats rather than direct violence – but working maliciously to ruin someone is if anything more threatening than just punching them.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:27pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        I would agree with you MM if “vigorous protest” was all that it was but for the organiser to cancel at the last moment I suspect the response has been a lot more nasty than this probably involving threats of property damage or bodily harm or financial ruin.
        If this is the case nobody who really believes in free speech and the rule of law should be happy about mob rule.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:38pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “I don’t have a problem with ~~speech being so unpopular that people don’t want to host it becasue of the backlash.~~ a small group of violent Ctrl-left Stalinists.”
        
        Fixed.
        
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        August 3, 2018 3:41pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        UN, we need to know who the “group of well connected and commercially powerful self-elected guardians of propriety” are who have dictated Southern and Molyneux shall not speak. The theatre owners were apparently scared by the threats which made them cancel the event. Threats = terrorism.
        
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        August 3, 2018 6:52pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    You ARE stupid. If the event had taken place a few people in Auckland would have heard them speak. Now it gets cancelled and they destroy Gower on National TV. Own Goal does not come even close to describing it. More New Zealanders are looking these two up than ever before. And most, once they hear them just think, what’s the fuss all about? The Left, Fucking Morons from the Dawn of time…
    
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    August 3, 2018 11:11pm
- Lance
  
  I see the ‘anti-fascists have defeated fascism by means of fascism.
  
  Nice
  
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  August 3, 2018 4:01pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Southern/Molyneux event tonight in Auckland cancelled due to venue (Powerstation) suddenly pulling the pin a few hours after venue announced.

No doubt pressure from neo-fascist thought-police of the left.
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August 3, 2018 2:43pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Oh, I was looking forward to Chuck Bird’s report on the evening.
  
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  August 3, 2018 2:45pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Me too!
    
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    August 3, 2018 3:25pm
    - DJ Ward
      
      The goat can talk?
      
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      August 3, 2018 3:31pm
- rangitoto
  
  Ctrl-left threatening violence.
  
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  August 3, 2018 3:35pm
EAD_TWO

More developments in the Sarah Jeong (writer for Salzburgers New York Times) race hate story

https://mobile.twitter.com/LarryVonGuild/status/1025071548460412928

One.thing the Sarah Jeong story does do is that it really lifts the lid on the notion of based or model minorities. Some may be more “quiet” than others, but make no mistake – they hate you just as much, and have just as much interest, if not more, in the dispossession of Whites from.their homelands.
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August 3, 2018 2:53pm
EAD_TWO

One has to ask what a billionaire Jewish financier gets out of a situation where fewer White people are born (while at the same time pushing for mass immigration).

http://www.lifenews.com/2018/08/01/george-soros-gets-away-with-illegally-funding-ireland-campaign-to-legalize-abortion/

Really makes you think.
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August 3, 2018 3:01pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, including the billionaire Jews in the US President’s cabinet?
  
  http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-senator-calls-on-trumps-jewish-cabinet-members-to-resign/?fb_comment_id=1765543960152967_1766155576758472#fde3992f9c52d4
  
  LOL
  
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  August 3, 2018 3:20pm
DJ Ward

Winston put down the glass of whisky.
Stop laughing, it could happen.

Winston is caught by Cindy drinking.
Cindy “I would rather be raped by 12 prostitutes than let liquor touch my lips”
Winston puts down the glass of whisky.
“I never knew it was an option”
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August 3, 2018 3:30pm
JibberJabber

So, this clown stuck up Mt Aspiring, is he going to get a bill from the NZ taxpayer for saving his sorry arse, given he apparently has history of doing it before?
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August 3, 2018 3:38pm
Stars And Stripes

‘Offensive’ Māori sign removed at Rotorua tourist attraction
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12100686
“A tongue and cheek sign that has thrilled tourists for 20 years or more at one of Rotorua’s top tourist attractions has been removed after being labelled a grotesque racial stereotype.
Tourists have had fun taking photos through the sign until this week when Māori feminist Moata Tamaira saw a friend’s child wee head pop through in her Facebook feed”.

Why did I kind of guess that good old Rangi the truck driver was not the one getting all precious about this but instead it just happened to be some Maori feminist women.
Obviously got to much spare time on her hands me thinks.
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August 3, 2018 3:54pm
- simpleton1
  
  No comments with the article..
  Would have been interesting to figure as it is claimed that many comments were in supporting that it was also racist on the original face book.
  
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  August 4, 2018 7:04am
MH

Army exercise.
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August 3, 2018 4:03pm
BananaLlama

Is the National party so fucking useless they can’t secure a venue for free speech activists? i don’t expect anything from Labor and their cronies i do expect National to be using this like a cudgel against the left.
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August 3, 2018 4:05pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Would be silly for National to associate themselves with visiting speakers in this day and age. Too easy for some hangable comment or behaviour to come to light.
  
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  August 3, 2018 4:17pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Eight more years of this shit then followed by another Nine.
    
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    August 3, 2018 4:23pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Well with your attitude you deserve 17years of the same.
      
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      August 3, 2018 6:45pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        And with yours you will be joining me.
        
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        August 3, 2018 6:58pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Correct UN. The National Party would be crazy to associate itself with those two. No one would see it as a stand for ‘free speech’.
    
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    August 3, 2018 7:30pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The appropriate response is to ensure that next time National is in power they stop the left wing media and other opponents of free speech receiving tax-payer funding to push their fringe views on the whole population. No more state funding of activists. Let these nascent thought police survive on what they can sell their views for rather than money extracted under duress from taxpayers.
  
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  August 3, 2018 4:27pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Watched TV3 and Paddy Gower interviewed the disappointed Molyneux and Southern when they were informed the venue was not available. They were clearly annoyed but totally calm and stated there is clearly a vocal minority preventing other NZ’ers from hearing what they want to hear. Paddy reported back in the newsroom that “there had been a lot of rapid fire questions and it was the worst interview he had ever had.” Total crap from what I saw.
    
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    August 3, 2018 7:03pm
    - waldonz
      
      I’ve just watched that interview. Patrick Gower is simply an unprofessional dickwad. If you ever wanted proof beyond any doubt whatsoever, watch the clip while you can.
      
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      August 3, 2018 7:07pm
- DJ Ward
  
  As soon as Anti Feminist was mentioned, Paula, Adams, and Judith pulled rank. Immigrations a National Party economic policy so few friends in the politicians ranks.
  
  This is a debacle of epic proportions.
  
  Sure it’s not fake news. Again.
  
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  August 3, 2018 4:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The Child welfare scandal in Norway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/norways_hidden_scandal

A dysfunctional Child protection Service
A Pedophile Psychiatrist giving “expert” advice for 20 years.

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/lifestyle/case-exposing-double-standards-norways-cps
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August 3, 2018 4:51pm
Nostradamus

Pete George has apparently been banned from Trevor Mallard’s “Speaker” Twitter account:

Talking of censorship: I know that Mallard had blocked me from his pre-speaker Twitter, but I don’t recall ever interacting with his @SpeakerTrevor account. I have no idea why he doesn’t want me to see what he tweets as Speaker. Is Parliament a secret society?

And – it’s a bit ironic that Mallard has banned baby shots but promotes himself with a baby photo. I think that’s the baby of an MP, taken in the House.

My goodness…
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August 3, 2018 5:17pm
- realityczech
  
  Things are getting bad when an insipid blogger like him gets blocked by a government official.
  
  I keep saying it but – people have no real idea of how extreme and dangerous this regime is.
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:18pm
- kowtow
  
  Trevor Mnangagwa.
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:22pm
Fletch

I see that the Powerstation was due to host Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux but the owner has cancelled it hours before it was to happen because “she didn’t know what kind of people they were” when she agreed to host. Looks like the SJWs got to her…

Molyneux reckons the owners were probably threatened with violence.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-canadian-far-right-speakers-blame-threats-violence-amounting-straight-up-terrorism-auckland-event-cancellation
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August 3, 2018 6:17pm
- kowtow
  
  Another win to the intolerant, dangerous and potentially violent fascist left.
  
  Our msm are not much better the way they report the pair as some sort of dangerous extremists.
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:20pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I gather the owner of the Powerstation has been living under a hedge if she hasn’t heard of Southern and Molyneaux in the current climate.
  Story doesn’t hold water.
  Police would be investigating terrorist threats if any, wouldn’t they? Or would they?
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:47pm
  - Longknives
    
    Shaun Auckland Police wouldn’t go near this with a fucking Barge Pole!
    
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    August 3, 2018 7:33pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Supreme Commander Phil Goff got to her. Do as I say or the Powerstation will have a ‘visit’
  Fucking mafioso
  
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  August 3, 2018 7:20pm
- itstricky
  
  cancelled it hours before it was to happen because “she didn’t know what kind of people they were”
  
  Clearly you don’t understand the principles of free speech.
  
  Molyneux reckons the owners were probably threatened with violence
  
  They would say that, wouldn’t they?
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:34pm
Gravelroad

The TV 1 “news” item at 6pm tonight about the Southern / Molyneux event was a disgrace.
The reporter (so called) made no attempt to hide his “feelings” and presented a biased, unintelligent, rubbish story.
If that is the best that TV1, state broadcaster, can do, then we are in very big trouble indeed.
Don’t think I have seen anything so bad in a long, long time.
Shame.
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August 3, 2018 6:31pm
- kowtow
  
  Yes , his angle of attack was that he claimed they claim that multiculturalism has failed/is a failure ( of course we are all meant to embrace same and Aotearoa by implication is a shining beacon of same)
  
  A couple of items into the “news” broadcast we’re told an Aussie league ref is giving it up due to death threats he got here for a decision against Tonga in the league world cup.
  
  Multiculturalism , alive and well in Aotearoa.
  
  I suspect the thick fuckers at TVNZ don’t even get the irony in the self contradictory shit they broadcast and pass off as “news”.
  
  Police 10 7 is another example of how biculturalism has been so successful and brought so many minority types to stardom week after week on TVNZ.
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:42pm
- Longknives
  
  That kiddie reporter on TV1 was a fucking disgrace.
  He kept smirking and making childish faces- And was full of faux utrage over Southern’s alleged (Funnily enough we never heard them) comments to the effect that Maori should be greatful to Western Civilisation…
  
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  August 3, 2018 6:44pm
  - Johnboy
    
    They fuckin well should be! After all Te Rauparaha never gave the wankers the macron did he? 🙂
    
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    August 3, 2018 6:53pm
    - nasska
      
      Since it only took Maori 4 or 5 centuries to forget how to grow kumara & lose all skills in ocean navigation they’d be in a sorry mess without us by now JB.
      
      Huddled in a cave somewhere dressed in rotting seals skins & gnawing on the last of the tribe next door while trying to remember how to make a stone axe! 🙂
      
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      August 3, 2018 7:03pm
  - itstricky
    
    That kiddie reporter on TV1
    
    Is he older than Southern?
    
    (there it is – that classic KB disdain for youngsters. But for some reason we just love Southern)
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:16pm
  - itstricky
    
    Maori should be greatful to Western Civilisation
    
    Western civilisation would be grateful if you used your spell checker.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:25pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Gravel “The TV 1 “news” item at 6pm tonight about the Southern / Molyneux event was a disgrace.”
  No better with Paddy Gower on TV3. See my comment above.
  
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  August 3, 2018 7:10pm
Muttonbird

Spectacular fail by the right. So toxic only Paddy Gower would give them a platform.

Lol.
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August 3, 2018 6:46pm
- BananaLlama
  
  They baited the left into giving them a platform well and good.
  
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  August 3, 2018 7:02pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Some of you guys still can’t see the forest for the trees can you MB.
  I would dare to say that not many in NZ had heard of these two speakers a couple of months ago but now without even actually speaking in this country most people are probably now aware of who they are and what they talk about.
  Glad I never had you or your other fellow travellers on my soccer team as we never would have won a game due to the constant own goals.
  
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  August 3, 2018 7:49pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Yep and the NZ sourced hits on their youtube videos would have skyrocketed from the publicity.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:33pm
Manolo

An unbiased MSM, right?
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/02/new-york-times-sarah-jeong-racist/
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August 3, 2018 6:48pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/full-video-patrick-gower-interviews-lauren-southern-and-stefan-molyneux/ar-BBLqPjD?li=AA59FU&ocid=spartandhp

Molyneux owns Gower in this. Gower comes across as a complete tool.
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August 3, 2018 6:56pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, Gower’s “I’m not going to let you finish”. What an a-hole. I bet he’s giving himself a pat on the back for that one.
  
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  August 3, 2018 7:14pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Gower got owned by two people who are used to arguing intelligently and are not intimidated by fools. Gower was shitting himself when Steven started answering the question on IQ. Gower, you are a fucking twat. Those two made the New Zealand left look like morons. And more and more people are hearing the message….
  
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  August 3, 2018 10:56pm
Fletch

Molyneux speaks some sense on the Treaty gravy train –

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-canadian-far-right-speakers-talk-m-ori-rights-in-nz-and-treaty-dont-believe-collective-moral-guilt
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August 3, 2018 7:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  And it’s quite the gravy train:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104205997/the-amount-allocated-to-treaty-settlements-is-tiny-compared-with-other-government-spending
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:05pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Why should anyone listen to you when you wont do others the same courtesy?
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:13pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I’m not making anyone listen to me – I’m not even speaking at the moment.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:15pm
  - rangitoto
    
    So give the tribal elites the WFF, health, welfare and education money and all sorted. See its easy to give away other peoples money.
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:49pm
- itstricky
  
  Because a 23 year old American knows so much about NZ history and ToW.
  
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  August 3, 2018 8:14pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Opinion discarded. Let me know when you support freedom of speech unconditionally.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:23pm
    - itstricky
      
      I do. Let me know when you can distinguish between disagreeing with a speaker, and allowing them to speak.
      
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      August 3, 2018 8:27pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        I find that hard to believe when you are criticising a speaker for views she cannot give.
        
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        August 3, 2018 8:37pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Do you experience any difficulty with finding out about her opinions?
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        Great call milky. We can stop leftist hate mongers now by threatening them with violence and count on YOU supporting it. After all it is very easy to hear what leftists say, in fact it is hard to escape it!
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:09pm
  - Ross12
    
    Canadian not American. You clearly have not got a clue what they talk about.
    
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    August 3, 2018 8:44pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Last time I checked the atlas, Canada was still part of America.
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:00pm
      - Ross12
        
        So in your world someone from Argentina or Chile is an American ?
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:08pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yes. America comprises two continents: North America and South America, connected by Central America. Canadians, Argentinians and Chileans are definitely Americans.
        Just let me know if you are uncertain whether Hungarians are Europeans, or anything else easy.
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:14pm
      - Ross12
        
        Do not be an idiot MM. I do not agree with you much but I know you are not stupid. It was quite clear what itstricky meant when he used the word American.
        
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        August 3, 2018 9:55pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Tell you what, go to Canada and call the locals “Americans”. Don’t send me the hospital bills….
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:34pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Probably more than you know about CANADIANS, and outside of NZ no -one gives a flying Fuck about the treaty, and actually, most inside New Zealand don’t give a flying fuck about that useless scrap of parchment or paper or what ever it was scribbled on….
    
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    August 3, 2018 10:38pm
RightNow

Is Gower a moron? He had trouble forming sentences let alone coherent arguments. Molyneux and Southern took pity on him, I’m surprised they didn’t laugh at him more.
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August 3, 2018 8:24pm
- niggly
  
  “Is Gower a moron?”
  
  Haven’t had time to watch his interview with them yet, but I did see him invited on to The Project and Gower spent his time dissing them and pretty much calling them stupid. No critique at all of their message and concerns, Gower just played the man not the ball.
  
  So for me (who hasn’t actually got round to watching any Molyneux/Southern videos yet) I’m none the wiser from watching Gower as to what to think of Molyneux/Southern and their messages.
  
  So thanks to the likes of Gower, I’ll just have to watch some Molyneux/Southern videos and make up my own mind!
  
  PS – Gower was such a hypocrite wanker, firstly he said that free speech was important and twice afterwards he celebrated the fact that Molyneux/Southern were denied their right to speak. So yes “moron” seems rather apt when it comes to describing Gower!
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:03pm
- Jack5
  
  Gower has proved himself to be outside the camp of those who favour free speech. Shame on him.
  
  We expected the Lefties of TVNZ to rubbish the two Canadians, but a few people thought Gower might stand up for the right to utter unpopular views. They have been disappointed.
  
  May the internet and Netflix finish off our electronic media sooner rather than later. They are following our failing newspapers into the history of obsolescent news media such as town criers and wall posters.
  
  Thank goodness for the Internet! May it always be free!
  
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  August 3, 2018 9:12pm
  - realityczech
    
    The internet is not free and is increasingly censored. Remember you don’t know what you don’t know.
    
    Sensible social commentary needs to move to alternative platforms asap. Google, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube are all massively censored now. Plans are well underway to stamp out the remaining free speech.
    
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    August 3, 2018 9:55pm
    - Jack5
      
      Where do you recommend, RCZ?
      
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      August 3, 2018 9:57pm
      - fernglas
        
        The pub used to be a really good platform.
        
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        August 3, 2018 10:34pm
cha

A pillar of the community.

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105978696/former-north-shore-board-chairman-pleads-guilty-to-sexual-exploitation-of-children
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- sooty
  
  Pillock?
  
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