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EAD_TWO

Viewing from afar the shocking and scandalous events in South Africa, I’m going to put it out there that Apartheid is the only viable option when a country has a demographic makeup similar to that of South Africa.

Apartheid kept Whites safe in a nation where they are hopelessly outnumbered, ensured a proper provision of non-corrupt and efficent public services, law and order, equality before the law and an economy where improvement in ones lot was due to hard work rather than connections to the ruling party.

South Africa in Apartheid days was so prosperous that millions of Africans moved to SA in search of opportunities whereas now millions flee as a once prosperous civilisation crumbles before the world’s eyes.

Thoughts and Prayers with the South African Farmers on the brink of annihilation and kudos to Trump for being the only world leader for standing up for them in their hour of need.
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August 25, 2018 8:00am
- Longknives
  
  The deranged Media are desperately trying to portray Trump as some kind of ‘Pro Apartheid’ White Supremacist- All because he expressed justifiable outrage about what is happening to White Farmers!
  
  South Africa has a complex History- But the lunatic Left try to simplify it as ‘Evil Whites v Noble, Oppressed Blacks’…
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:06am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    The deranged Media are desperately trying to portray Trump as some kind of ‘Pro Apartheid’ White Supremacist
    
    I think the sickest thing is that the biggest Media outlets in the world have been pushing the “Trump is a conspiracy theorist for thinking Whites are being slaughtered en masse” all on the back of a press release by the Jewish Anti Defamation League:
    
    https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-extremely-troubled-by-presidents-tweet-on-south-africa
    
    FFS – 70k+ white South African Farmers have been massacared since the end of Apartheid and the group that is responsible (the Jewish ADL) for monitoring what we say on social media is telling us it’s all a conspiracy theory:
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/10/10/google-facebook-twitter-microsoft-join-forces-adl-end-cyberhate/
    
    We are living in surreal times
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:40am
    - Sam_Bro
      
      Oh, really? Cause I’ve heard a somewhat different account of history…
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:52am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Sam – can you please explain to Kiwiblog what you mean?
        
        Are you telling us the slaughter of White South Africans is all in our minds?
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179171/Walkerville-family-murders-Horrific-death-boy-12-drowned-boiling-water-robbers-raped-mother.html
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:02am
      - GoVege
        
        What a lovely family and an adorable little fella.
        How could anyone torture a little kid to death like that?
        What effing savages.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:50pm
      - Sam_Bro
        
        It’s only been relatively recently, after Amartya Sen won his Nobel Peace Prize in economics back in 1998 that we’ve discovered the true horrors of colonisation British style. In one of his 7 essays on Indians famines it’s said that because British forign interests forced the locals by bullwhip to grow heroin instead of food crops, not only lead to the deaths of 100 million starving Indians, but also lead to the deaths of 100 million Chinese through the opium wars and subsequent economic vandalism by the west. Often those deaths are sighted as a result of communism, but that’s a lie.
        
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        August 25, 2018 5:40pm
      - realityczech
        
        Sammy colonisation has been a great success for darkies. It also allowed Africans to immigrate to the first world with free housing, food, clothing etc – all in return for some light gardening work and helping with a few chores.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:07pm
      - Sam_Bro
        
        It’s more like world rugby finals footy for the prevailing governing parties through out the world. And we are in the final 5 minutes of the game we’re 2 points down in our own 22. Obama got stretchered off, Trumps got off field contract issues. And Scott Morrison has to line up for a winning drop goal. Do I think he can convert probably not. Do I think his fan club believes in the impossible, probably.
        
        Most problems that normal people complain / whinge about are not new. People like David Farar and Kiwi Blog and the regular commentators are like a little INFO WARS desperate for new conspiracies. Just read the headlines from today.
        
        “World Science Fiction comes to New Zealand”
        
        “No performance pay for government”
        
        “Nuk vs Simon”
        
        This place is a joke ?
        
        This place is low quality, low IQ and low energy.
        
        Clowns are very lonely with thier circus. Sort yourselves out.
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:19pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Why don’t you just Foxtrot Oscar then.
        Your alternative history is simply bullshit.
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:32pm
      - Sam_Bro
        
        I didn’t research and publish the historical references of who cause the deaths of 200 million Chinese and Indians. Amartya did and won a Nobel peace prize. Like I said. This place is a depository for little info wars of New Zealand red pill signalling and beta orbiting???
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        “This place is a joke ?
        This place is low quality, low IQ and low energy.
        Clowns are very lonely with thier circus. Sort yourselves out.”
        
        Not a fan then Sammy? Run along back to the Standard and bellow into the echo chamber to make yourself feel validated then.
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:03pm
      - Sam_Bro
        
        Bahahahahaha. You told me to run along to the standard ?????
        
        Instead of taking on my argument directly. You chose to take the bitch route around and complain / whinge. I mean seriously, you think the Standard is any higher or lower? They’re both circuses for one eyed trolls ???.
        
        Don’t you get it?
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:07pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sam_Bro is all over the place on Amartya Sen. In his 5.40 post, Sam_Bro says Sen won the Nobel Prize for Economics. In his 7.50 post, Sam_Bro elevates this to the Nobel Peace Prize.
        
        In fact, Sen was awarded he Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 1998 for his work in welfare economics.
        
        Sam_Bro distorts Sen’s views on the Bengal famine in 1943, when the Japanese were heading for India.
        
        Here’s a better summary of what Sen’s views on the famine (this is from Wikipedia):
        
        “In 1981, Sen published Poverty and Famines: An Essay on Entitlement and Deprivation (1981), a book in which he argued that famine occurs not only from a lack of food, but from inequalities built into mechanisms for distributing food. Sen also argued that the Bengal famine was caused by an urban economic boom that raised food prices, thereby causing millions of rural workers to starve to death when their wages did not keep up.”
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:56pm
      - Sam_Bro
        
        Actually on what actually happened:
        
        Great Famines: Lessons from the Nineteenth Century
        
        From this link : http://post.nyssa.org/nyssa-news/2012/12/great-famines-lessons-from-the-nineteenth-century.html
        
        “Available, I chose those of the nineteenth-century British Empire because those famines were among the best documented. I observed the following details in those accounts: First, the system of agricultural production and distribution in a given territory was already under strain, even in years of plenty. Second, no general shortage of food was observed, yet all famines correlated with high levels of food exports from the affected areas. Amartya Sen (1982), who received the Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences in 1998, observed this phenomenon, suggesting that famines can happen with little or no external stimuli. Sen’s FEE (failure of exchange entitlements) theory was as revolutionary in its description of famines as Milton Friedman’s analysis of the Great Depression was for the subsequent development of economic science (and dogma). Many criticisms of Sen’s approach have appeared, based on empirical data that suggest that particular famines were triggered by external shocks. Yet, his insights are still fundamental in welfare economics.”
        
        So as you can see. Users of kiwi blog are low quality, low IQ, low energy users of Wikipedia. And couldn’t learn a trick if the economy and the National Party depended on it. Sorry not sorry. You will learn, you learn to be humble, like how the All Blacks teaches the Wallabies how to be humble.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:11pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO terrible things happen to people whether in South Africa or not such as this family axe muder ,
      
      ‘Blood ran like a waterfall down the stairs’: Son guilty of killing family with axe
      
      A MILLIONAIRE’S son has been convicted of hacking his wealthy parents and brother to death with an axe at their home in South Africa in an attack so frenzied that blood “ran like a waterfall down the stairs”.
      
      Henri van Breda, 23, was also found guilty of the attempted murder of his 16-year-old sister Marli, who survived despite having her jugular vein severed during a desperate struggle.
      
      He faces 25 years in jail for the murder of his 54-year-old father Martin van Breda, 55-year-old mother Theresa and 22-year-old brother Rudi at their home just outside Cape Town in January 2015.
      
      https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/963494/south-africa-henri-van-breda-murder-guilty-axe-attack-family-parents-brother
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:00am
      - GoVege
        
        That guys obviously a psycho, not merely a savage…
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:53pm
    - realityczech
      
      So when EAD shows the msm attacks Trump for what is happening EAD gets lots of upticks. When he provides evidence Jewish groups do the same he gets downticks.
      
      Incredible.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:22pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        The cognitive dissonance is stronger than normal on this one RC.
        
        To be fair to them, we are showing them evidence of things contra to the poisonous mental diet provided by the mass media and the education system that challenges the entire way they’ve been taught to view the world.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:50pm
      - realityczech
        
        The fucking hypocrites make me sick Eddy. They appear to have no morals at all, as no wrong, no matter how vile, will be condemned when Jews do it.
        
        You can start to understand why people have had to take desperate measures to protect themselves from the Jew.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:57pm
      - Jack5
        
        Your mate, 卐EADolf, is a sad case, ‼️Kearealityczech‼️
        
        He just can’t accept the Nazis lost and will never come back.
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:05pm
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  Apartheid is not the only answer to this problem that one may imagine but it was an actual functioning system that fed the people and provided at least some form of opportunity to many/most. What is going to happen now will be expulsion/expropriation of rural whites from farms onto of mineral wealth, increased danger and atrocities for whites in general, a crashing of the food supply and resultant famine, and finally general unrest/civil war as tribal conflict replaces action against whites in a descending spiral of shortages, hunger, and desperation.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:29am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Yes, decolonisation can be a messy thing. The European empires took a fair while to conquer most of the world, and only began the retreat from Africa 70 years ago.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:38am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      I guess by your logic you have no problem then if Europe “decolonises” all of the Africans and other assorted settlers that have came into their lands over the past 60 years?
      
      Or is it different when the colonizers bring wealth, prosperity and civilisation rather than poverty, ignorance and violence?
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:46am
      - Sam_Bro
        
        Even if Britian held on to its colonies, Britian couldn’t have underwritten European security and pan Africa security and Asia Pacific security. Hell America can barley do it with the most powerful fleet in history.
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:56am
      - SGA
        
        Or is it different when the colonizers bring wealth, prosperity and civilisation rather than poverty, ignorance and violence?
        
        meh – rose coloured spectacles – colonisation was a mixed bag. The colonizers largely sought wealth and prosperity for themselves and often brought plenty of violence of their own; the positive or negative consequences for the colonized were incidental. Cortese and co, for example, were hardly on a UN-sponsored education mission, and just ask the native Tasmanians about wealth and prosperity (opps, we can’t, can we).
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:50am
    - Harkman
      
      Yet you also think it is fair that third worlders flood into Europe illegally. Such a snowflake.
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:58am
- BananaLlama
  
  Whites in SA should have either left for other former colonies or set up their own independent state. No Minority can govern over a Majority for long without violence erupting IMO.
  Apartheid would still be seen as immoral and unjust regardless of how well they ran the country.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:40am
  - holysheet
    
    Why is it only apartheid when the whites were in charge? Just because the governing roles have reversed, its still apartheid.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:51am
  - BananaLlama
    
    You can argue that if you want i’m referring to apartheid under white rule and the political realities they faced. Rainbow Nation was never going to work but progressives wouldn’t allow their multicultural religion to be criticised and now we are all paying the price.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:57am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    The problem is Bananarama is that the concept of “democracy” & “rule of law” arw very much a white man’s concepts borne out homogenous societies.
    
    Africans have an average IQ of 75 and are tribal in nature and South Africa is a country of many conflicting tribes.
    
    When you have a “superman demographic” of small numbers (whites) within such a demographic that is producing all of the wealth, then apartheid is the only system that can hold the hold the house of cards together( see my post on Thursday GDon r vs. k selection theory)
    
    As surely as day turns to night and the country starts to starve, we will see the Black tribes quickly turn on each other as the thing that binds them (hatred of Whitey) will have long left the land, the farms in complete ruin.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:01am
    - BananaLlama
      
      European Diaspora in Africa should have pursued their own independent state but that ship sailed long ago. Ian Smith was wise enough to see what would happen but the British would have none of it and being a land locked nation in the middle of Africa sealed his fate.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:10am
    - freethinker
      
      And your prediction will be fulfilled as Zimbabwe/Venezuela/Argentina continue to demonstrate. The one bright spot is when the tribes fight each other the underlying problem of excessive population and insufficient use of resources just may force the reality of cooperating to ensure your survival. By this time the white farmers will be gone and getting them to return impossible as trust & security will be a dim memory and then some disease may appear and reduce population to a level were historical subsistence farming becomes sufficient.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:26pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The South Africans should have created a property-owning black middle class in the post-war period.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:49am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Assumes that is possible. To be middle class requires IQ near or above 100. That is less than 10% of Africans.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:59am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Does not the USA have a property-owning black middle class as a significant proportion of the black US population?
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:21am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        USA is not Africa, a lot of interbreeding for african americans, and better nutrition and education, so average IQ about 85 with 10-15% above 100 IQ. So there are a significant number of middle class African Americans, but much smaller proportion than for other ethnicities.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:32am
      - Paulus
        
        US Black population is 14% of the total but has a much larger representation to the world.
        
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        August 25, 2018 1:51pm
    - stephieboy
      
      UN, always on hand to falsify and misinform on IQ aka the Bell Curve psuedo science.
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:03am
    - GoVege
      
      Anybody brought up in real poverty is going to lack the parental attention and stimulation that increases IQ.
      Despite having a much better standard of living than most people on the planet, our po-ar tribal classes handicap their kids by having huge numbers of kids and then neglecting them.
      
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      August 25, 2018 3:08pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    They did and it exists, and they are worried at what is going on in South Africa as well. Although this has elements of white vs black, it is essentially have nots vs haves, and bugger the colour, although there is a large group of have nots that hate anything not black, and not part of their tribe. The ingredients for a massive violent breakdown are there, and the government and security forces are too corrupt and inept to prevent it. Our stupid left wing compliant media refuse to report this as it does not fit the current COL’s agenda.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:12am
- Liberty
  
  This is what Minto and his urban terrorist. Rioted for in 1981.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:55am
  - Inandout
    
    And those dizzy old matrons from the treed enclaves of Remuera, dressed in their tweeds and brogues, marching with the Mongrels and Black Power. Were the bros robbing their mansions while they were out protesting? Stupid bloody wankers.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:00am
  - stephieboy
    
    Liberty, how amny were killed and injured in that 19181 riot?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:04am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy, i gather” amny” is your new anti psychotic meds…..?
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:42pm
- The Heat
  
  Tribalism doesn’t work. The reason Africa was prosperous is because the Europeans instilled the rule of law.
  
  Now it won’t be. Prosperity is not a given. History shows there were only a few societies capable of it, and Africa isn’t onenof Them.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:56am
  - stephieboy
    
    The Heat l,ike in SW Africa ( Namibia ) and the Congo?
    
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/brutal-genocide-colonial-africa-finally-gets-its-deserved-recognition-180957073/
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:05am
- tas
  
  I’m not sure how to react to this comment. Apartheid was terrible and no one should advocate a return thereto. However, the current situation in South Africa is also very bad and Trump is right to be concerned. The ANC is deeply corrupt after 24 years in power. Their moral authority is dead, like it’s symbol, Mandela. We should stop acting like they are beyond criticism.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:58am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Africa is unfixable, democracy and universal franchise don’t work if average intelligence is too low. Colonialism or control by an educated intellectual elite is only model that we know works there. They need to get a lot smarter (Eugenics) if they want to enjoy the prosperity of the rest of the world.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:08am
    - tas
      
      I don’t think intelligence is the decisive factor for the success of democracy. The problem is “tribalism” — people who will vote for one party no matter what. The ANC get 65% of the vote in South Africa despite the havoc they have caused, because people still vote along racial lines. We need swing voters to punish bad governments.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:24am
      - SGA
        
        On the other hand, “South Africa”, for example, is a European invention. They decided to lump diverse groups into one “nation” irrespective of the cultural, ethnic, and linguistic differences and expect it to work. Look at Europe over the last 1000 years – countries expanding and contracting, borders moving – heavens, it was less than 100 years ago that a major war was initiated by someone who wanted to reunite the German peoples.
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:59am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Name a country with high average IQ that suffers from tribalism. Stupidity and tribalism are linked.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:36am
      - SGA
        
        From where I sit, “tribalism” in one form or another is alive and well throughout the world. Nationalism seems just tribalism writ large. Much of Kiwiblog is devoted to crude, broad demarcations of people in terms of race, religion, or economic philosophy. (((EAD))) spends a lot time worrying about the Jewish tribes. The units may have become bigger and the divisions can be more flexible, but the principles seem pretty much the same.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:46am
      - tas
        
        SGA: Yes, Africa’s borders make little sense and, for once, colonialism can actually be blamed for that.
        
        UN, SGA: Tribalism is everywhere, even NZ. There are tribal Labour supporters, and tribal National supporters. However, the parties still need to win over swing voters to govern, which gives them an incentive to not be totally shit. The problem is when tribalism takes over, like in South Africa, and the parties stop trying to win people over.
        
        I fear that tribalism is taking over in the US. 30 years ago a Republican could win in California and New York and a Democrat could win in Texas and Georgia. Nowadays those states are lost to tribalism.
        
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        August 25, 2018 11:19am
      - Sam_Bro
        
        I’d say America is still hung over from royally screwing up the fall of the Berlin wall. Its all debris that never got tidied up.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:12pm
duggledog

I think the Joke Government strategists / activists ran rings around National yesterday.

Such a coincidence, that the leaker pleads barking, on the same day as the revelation NZ’s suicide statistics are even worse than ever.

And then the Speaker arse holes the inquiry, effectively judging someone in National to be at fault.

Then the “Prime Minister” drops the ultimate distraction and arse holes the most embarrassingly inept cabinet member we have seen in a very long time.

On the same day.
Not yesterday, not Monday, the same day. When she could easily have replaced her with Coffee

It’s like an episode of House of Cards. That B Com from Waikato Uni is being tested to its limit
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August 25, 2018 8:02am
- Longknives
  
  A tricky week for the Government- Expect Breastfeeding in Parliament or a Photo Shoot for New Idea early next week from the Left’s pathetic Queen of Virtue Signalling…
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:07am
  - G152
    
    Two of them now so it’ll be a tittyfest
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:12am
    - Woz
      
      Ugh. Puh-leeze. I’m trying to eat my fried eggs.
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:42am
      - wiseowl
        
        Your lucky you have eggs. I have a burnt crust and dripping.
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:26am
      - holysheet
        
        Don’t start that shit again Woz, but you are lucky to have a burnt crust. Mine wasn’t toast, just white bread and nothing else.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:03am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Shubox in middl’ o’ road . . .
        
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        August 25, 2018 1:32pm
  - flipper
    
    The leaker story is probably 10th floor/Mallard/Fraser house crap. The confessions made from a disposable, unidentifiable mobile. Wonderful! Stupid bloody MSM and Mallard “believe it” and swallow it hook line and sinker…….
    And that is even without a cursory examination of the content of the texts.
    The issue of expenses is itself bullshit. Most is a transfer from one Government A/c to another … all internal reallocations/adjustments !!!!.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:34am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      How would Muldoon have dealt with such a thing, flipper? Di he pass on any tips in political management to his virile young friend?
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:40am
      - softail 1450
        
        M M A, very touchy about any mention of Fraser house there MMA , does your swipe card still work there?
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:44am
    - Harkman
      
      Yes the sex fiend son must be of a high profile Labour MP or one in a marginal seat and the trial must be nearing.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:05am
- Southern Raider
  
  And MSM is in full swing this morning doing their job of making the left look amazing
  
  Audrey Young had a whole article suggesting what other PMs can learn off Cindy around the great leadership style she has and how she has shown how to be decisive but fair
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:17am
  - Liberty
    
    This explains the five day delay before the Princess rants of like a fishwife.
    It also give time for Cols media lackys. Time to dream up some drivel.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:11am
  - Viking2
    
    Decisive????
    She still left Curran on full Ministerial pay.
    
    Put up with a lot for that.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:18am
    - VicParking
      
      Flat mates must stick together
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:25am
      - sooty
        
        Mallards old squeze.
        
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        August 25, 2018 12:42pm
  - doggone7
    
    Meanwhile in some other places there are different perspectives.
    
    With some clarity that someone in the National caucus, a member or a worker, has done something undermining and shitty, Mallard and Labour are getting the blame. Work that out if you can.
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:53am
- Justitia
  
  Yes duggledog, I agree, but I got dumped on yesterday on this blog by angry Nats for suggesting as much. Note to Simon: never ask a question in public to which you don’t already know the answer. A waste-of-time distraction that made Ardern look “presidential” in slapping an untrustworthy Minister with a wet bus ticket.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:24am
- Paulus
  
  Occam’s Razor
  Mallard gives a copy of Bridges figure to his “one time accepted “sexual partner” Clare Curren in a fit of ecstasy.
  She then gives it to a personal bimbo friend in the media who has stuff to drop her in the poop as she has been less than believable.
  H2 finds out that Curren has been less than truthful so tells Cindy to kick her out (only of some portfolios, as she still has lots of dirt on many others).
  Then media bimbos think they have been more than clever.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:41am
- KevOB
  
  But what’s really worrying this COL?
  Has GR had some really disturbing reports?
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:53am
- calendar girl
  
  duggledog at 8:02: Not a B Com (as in “Bachelor of Commerce”), but a “Bachelor of Communication Studies (BCS) in politics and public relations”.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:23am
  - freethinker
    
    Presumably a key qualification for Taxinda’s degree is a large mouth emitting loud volumes of shit thanks to the large void behind the mouth and its direct connection to her bowels.
    
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    August 25, 2018 1:37pm
  - KevOB
    
    The PM is already commercially qualified and trained as fishnchip purveyor.
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:19pm
Lee C

The Curren story neatly bumped off the front page, of the Herald, remarked upon as an affirmation of Ardern’s leadership skills, coupled with an unhealthy fixation with Simon Bridge’s treatment of the leak and enquiry, and dark inferences about mental health issues in the National Party.
Welcome to the undeclared propaganda arm of the Coalition, in which lying and leaking are reframed as virtues and morals.
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August 25, 2018 8:06am
- Keeping Stock
  
  If leadership is demoting someone from Cabinet but letting her keep the portfolio which she first brought into disrepute, I’ll pass. Ardern has been as weak as gnat’s piss with her former flatmate and fellow communications specialist.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:42am
  - secondcumming
    
    It’s not over till that fat lady sings. Is that Clare?
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:39am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Didn’t know her replacement (woods) was a singer.
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:38am
    - oldpark
      
      How about the import from America. Now on Maternity leave for three months.Cost will be at least taxpayer funded of $75000 dollars for Genter from “greens “.She will be on Ministeral wages.
      Seems for that grubby wee bitch who hates old white men,does that inclue elder abuse.
      Last time i saw her boss the self NZs dictator Peters he didnt look a day under 80 years.So much for Genters hate for old men.
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:38am
    - freethinker
      
      Fat maybe, Lady never.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:39pm
- KevOB
  
  Was this whole Curran/Bridges saga crafted to enhance the PM’s apparent papier mache?
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:57am
  - Harkman
    
    Yes Curran was thrown out to make Cindy look strong.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:06am
  - artemisia
    
    That would be the pinata waiting in the wings?
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:49am
- Prince
  
  I just don’t understand why the Herald has such strong readership figures when they pander to the left so much.
  Oh, hold on..
  
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  August 25, 2018 10:00am
Manolo

What’s next?
https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/do-democrats-want-an-impeachment-fight/

Twenty-six months after the Watergate break-in, President Nixon had resigned. Twenty-six months after the hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails, Mueller has yet to deliver hard evidence the Trump campaign colluded with Putin’s Russia, though this was his mandate.
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August 25, 2018 8:06am
- KevOB
  
  Mueller as public servant is a disgrace.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    KevOB , can you outline your reasons as to why?
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:26am
    - pentwig
      
      stupidboy
      do you not have the intellect to work it out for yourself?
      good grief!!
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:32am
      - stephieboy
        
        pentwit, possibly not .
        
        Can you assist with your sharp” intellect”
        
        LOL
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:42am
      - VicParking
        
        Just the fact that you support him means he must be a dick Stephie??
        
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        August 25, 2018 11:29am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      He was asked to look into Russian interference in the US election:
      He has found:
      Undeclared taxes
      Incorrectly filed declarations
      Tax evasion
      Sexual trysts
      What he has not found:
      A link between Trump and Russia
      Where he has not looked:
      At anything to do with the suspicious nature of KNOWN contacts between Clinton and Russia.
      Uranium One
      Bills speaking fees
      Clinton foundation
      Pay for play
      Fake dossier
      etc etc
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:43am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Lockheed Martin.
      Do your own research
      
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      August 25, 2018 7:46pm
Fletch

A handy graphic on the National Party’s Facebook page showing that there have been more people on strike in NZ in just 10 months of Labour than there were in the 9 years under National; in fact, twice as many.

https://www.facebook.com/NZNATS/videos/226572021362092/

But remember Jacinda saying, “not on my watch”?
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August 25, 2018 8:14am
- Longknives
  
  It’s not Jacinda’s fault.
  They are all going on strike because of National- Not our wonderful Socialist Princess…
  (She has a wee BAYBEEE don’t you know?)
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:17am
  - VicParking
    
    Nine years of dragging the country out of earthquakes and economic crashes. Having to Borrow money to do it. With the agreement of the workforce Holding pay rises to or just over inflation. Its all Nationals Fault……..sic
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:00am
    - Inandout
      
      I sincerely hope that the CoL won’t experience a natural disaster like that earthquake. The resulting chaos from the 3 headed regime would be too horrible to contemplate.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:09am
      - Southern Raider
        
        Greens would propose levelling the whole of ChCh and turning it into one big open air hippy colony
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:20am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    But there is a new baby on the blocks and this one can already ride a bike.
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:50am
Longknives

25 August is the Anniversary of the Allied Liberation of Paris.
Check out the pics of the Allies being cheered through the Streets-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Paris

Compare those amazing photos to Paris today-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56b_rmUHUg4

Got me thinking- If the Liberation were to happen today the Allies would likely be attacked by hordes of African ‘Immigrants’ throwing Molotov Cocktails and rocks.
The old Soldiers must just shake their heads in disgust at what Europe has done to itself..
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August 25, 2018 8:15am
- EAD_TWO
  
  @ Longknives,
  
  check out these (colour) photos of Paris under Nazi rule of what life was like:
  
  https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/france-under-nazi-occupation/
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:25am
  - VicParking
    
    Its also ‘Kiss And Make Up Day‘ sort of ironic.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:02am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Good to see no background shots of Jews being loaded onto east bound trains at gun point
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:22am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Yeah those Nazis and their expansionist ideas were just misunderstood. What were they doing in Paris again?
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:30am
      - Southern Raider
        
        Spring break I think
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:39am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Good to see no background shots of Jews being loaded onto east bound trains at gun point
      
      Yes, they had to wear a star (especially if they were Commies), but very few (if any) were made to go to the work camps in Eastern Europe.
      
      Can you help me out with several things Southern Raider?
      
      How come Hitler was allegedly able to nearly wipe out most of European Jewry yet still millions stayed in/returned to their homes in Europe, settled in then Palestine or resettled in the USA?
      
      Why did the World Almanac list the worldwide Jewish worldwide population as approx. stable @ 15M between 1939 and 1949 editions?
      
      How was world Jewry able to sustain a population boom WWII when allegedly dem Nazis exterminated all of the children?
      
      Why did the Nazis expend so much energy allegedly sending Jews eastwards (only to “exterminate” them) when it would have much been easier to kill them on the spot?
      
      Minds greater than mine are curious ?
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:36am
      - Southern Raider
        
        That sounds a lot like Holocaust denile
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:40am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Quick – shut down the wrong think now❗
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:53pm
      - realityczech
        
        Southern here is a book to read. I know Jews are smart and like to learn stuff. Thank me latter 🙂
        
        https://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/
        
        Oh nearly forgot to mention – it is free – so I know you will like it.
        
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        August 25, 2018 3:01pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Kea, as suggested you are suffering holocuast” senile ”
        
        Seel help at nearest dementia clinic.
        
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        August 25, 2018 3:09pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO , in stark contrast to occupied Warsaw and Poland,
    
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-s-wwii-occupation-of-poland-when-we-finish-nobody-is-left-alive-a-759095.html
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:34am
- Inandout
  
  France has the answers, but won’t act over the migrant invasion. Poland has.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:12am
Lee C

I think National have a communication problem. They are being consigned to the sandpit by Labour.
We live in a world in which facts are boring, and perception is all. Currently, The Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern controls the narrative.

We are all her bitches.
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August 25, 2018 8:16am
- KevOB
  
  Never.
  ☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️……………………………………..
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:01am
  - Komata
    
    Kec
    
    Agree, but not with Simon in charge. Can anyone tell me exactly what he DOES believe?
    
    It sure as anything seems more socialist than nationalist…
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:20am
    - KevOB
      
      Simon seems to be pretty regular Kiwi: a bit left of centre with compassion for the aged and others finding it difficult or impossible to sustain themselves. The legacy of our 19th c. politicians who did not want Kiwis to have to face the workhouse.
      
      National’s compassion can be seen as social insurance. Most people cannot be their own insurers so taxes and shared support are necessary. This is even more important with ease of mobility so a parent can be in Invercargill and oneself in Auckland. A common fund provides basic health and other care that otherwise remote families would find difficult to provide. Our village boundaries have been extended.
      
      National are not ideologues so allow pragmatism and manage economic demands. The COL list where the winds will take them having set fixed courses without external input. A method impractical in business and allowing no correction except by the Captains call.
      
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      August 25, 2018 2:39pm
      - Komata
        
        KOB
        
        Thank you, although I would have doubts about the ‘bit’ in your statement; a ‘lot’ would seem to be a more appopriate descriptive, hence my question.
        
        Such an ‘inclination’ is not good for a party seeking to differentiate itself from its opponents.
        
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        August 25, 2018 5:07pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        I would argue that there is not a lot of difference between Nats and Lab, except Nats are less driven by ideology, believe in the free market, are not soft on crims, believe in personal choice, and don’t see financial success as a negative. In terms of personnel and brain power, there is no contest though. The problem with the present bunch of muppetts is that they don’t know how stupid they are. Ask Curran.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:34pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.
  
  There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight, and truth will again triumph.
  
  It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be moulded until they clothe ideas and disguise.
  
  A description of the actions of our current govt. and PM.
  Yes but they are also the quotes of:
  Joseph Goebbels
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:55am
- realityczech
  
  Lee is right. I am not sure what can be done about given the media bias. I doubt Slimeon will be the one to fix it.
  
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  August 25, 2018 5:10pm
Happychappy

The Media is a sick bunch of puppets that know as long as the show pony and her corrupt bunch of misfits in the coalition keep behaving like they are they don’t have to print facts or truth. To think these arseholes went out of their way to crucify Todd Barclay and Bill English over the taping of a staff member and then find Clare Curran’s corrupt behaviour to be something she forgot to enter in her diary was just a mistake is beyond belief and to not take all the portfolios off her is saying that corruption in Government ìs fine.
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August 25, 2018 8:17am
- Keeping Stock
  
  What does it say for the importance the government places on Broadcasting and ACC that the incompetent Clare Curran retains those portfolio responsibilities?
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:57am
  - VicParking
    
    Corrupt and obstinate running the corrupt and obstinate. The perfect fit.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:07am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Or an incompetent leading the incompetents.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:18am
- Inandout
  
  Fibre streaming has changed the role of our MSM because papers aren’t selling and Stuff/Herald sites are visited mainly after a natural disaster. Imagine five years ago saying that you selected TV online from the moment you sat down to watch, completely ignoring the 6pm news?
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:17am
Manolo

Italy is bearing the brunt of the African invasion:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6092633/Italy-threatens-withdraw-EU-cash-unless-distribute-migrants-held-Sicilian-dock.html

Italy last night threatened to pull the plug on billions of pounds of EU contributions if the bloc does not step in to distribute more than 150 migrants being held in a Sicilian dock.

A row has been brewing over migrants aboard the Diciotti coast guard vessel in recent days, sparking an emergency meeting between diplomats today who will discuss the bloc’s asylum policy.

Those aboard the vessel, which arrived on Monday night, are being refused permission to disembark in Catania unless other member states agree to take some of those on board.
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August 25, 2018 8:19am
- VicParking
  
  150. Whats familar with that number. Where is a fish and chip shop worker when you need one. Plenty of spare houses in Sandringham.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:11am
DigNap15

Italy should use its navy to tow all the immigrant boats back to Libya and drop them off there.
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August 25, 2018 8:27am
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  Italy should use their navy to return the illegal aliens after sinking all of the boats used to transport ‘replacement population’ to Europe.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:32am
Monique Watson

I’ve only got five beers left. Should I be worried?
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August 25, 2018 8:27am
- softail 1450
  
  M W ,send the oldest down for more …..
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:38am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Haha. Seems like yesterday I sent my brother down for a half doz on his bike. Might be morally wrong to send my son off though.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:47am
    - VicParking
      
      He should be at football training?
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:12am
- JibberJabber
  
  One large bottle JD, stat!
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:45am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Fuck yeah! I’ve got a bottle of Absolut at my feet. Empty.
    Must replenish. More spirits for the taper-down.
    I’ll let you know how it goes.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:53am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      I feel for “that” chair….
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:17am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  As entertaing ad it is for us, I think you need a better/healthier hobby.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:16am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Amen to that UN. ?
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:26am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Bad news, Monique…
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/23/no-healthy-level-of-alcohol-consumption-says-major-study
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:34am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I would like to suggest the report is crap. Cherry picking of stats and dubious correlations between cause and effect. Sure if you are going to drink a bottle a day and drive, you are going to die….
    
    As an aside, my father drinks about 500ml ( if not more) of wine every day, and has done so for the last 70 years or so. He is 87, and other than a dodgy knee is fit, healthy, and of sound mind. According to the article he should have died years ago of cancer, heart disease, pneumonia and god knows what else….
    
    There is a very strong anti-alcohol lobby developing, and I am wondering if the raghead invasion of the world has something to do with this….
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:43am
  - Inandout
    
    Well the Guardian would say that about alcohol, because it fits well with their Muslim hugging views. What damage to your health does head banging five times a day, or wearing vitamin D proof sacks?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:48am
    - GoVege
      
      I read somewhere recently that a muslim male should bang his head so often, that he has more lumps on his forehead than a camel. 🙂
      
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      August 25, 2018 3:14pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Oh Shit Maggy, I’m rooted. I better get my snoot outta the wine and into the garden more.
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:12am
    - VicParking
      
      Tip: Hide your wine in the garden shed. Deck chair, radio…….
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:35am
JibberJabber

Littles vision for New Zealand, another psycho killer to be released on the public,
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12111758
You don`t have to be clairvoyant to see how this is going to end.
Collateral Damage.
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August 25, 2018 8:44am
- srylands
  
  If this guy is psychotic, he MIGHT be OK if he abstains from alcohol and keeps up his medication every day. But that is a very big IF.
  
  I have a close family member with psychosis. If he takes his meds he is fine. But then he stops. And then he is pretty fucking far from fine.
  
  Part of this guy’s release conditions should be that he is compulsorily medicated. But I bet that is missing because it would breach his human rights.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:01am
- Inandout
  
  Little lives in Auckland?
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:19am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , the offender was from Rotorua and is forbidden to vsit the place.
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:11am
    - Inandout
      
      And if you believe that he won’t wander then you are a goat shagger…oh wait.
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:49am
holysheet

A nice, calm and respectable lady went into the pharmacy, right up to the pharmacist, looked straight into his eyes, and said, “I would like to buy some cyanide.” The pharmacist asked, “Why in the world do you need cyanide?” The lady replied, “I need it to poison my husband.” The pharmacists eyes got big and he exclaimed, “Lord have mercy! I can’t give you cyanide to kill your husband! That’s against the law! I’ll lose my license! They’ll throw both of us in jail! All kinds of bad things will happen. Absolutely not! You CANNOT have any cyanide!” The lady reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband in bed with the pharmacist’s wife. The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied, “Well now. That’s different. You didn’t tell me you had a prescription.”
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August 25, 2018 8:52am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Of course, cynide is actually very easy to obtain and most people eat it unwittingly everyday….
  
  https://www.thoughtco.com/are-apple-seeds-poisonous-607725
  
  18 apples seeds, finely crushed, Dear Winston, we’re having apple pie tonight…..
  
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  August 25, 2018 10:47am
  - GoVege
    
    Fook!! I’ve been eating the whole Apple and seeds for yonks!
    Anyone knows if it’s an easy way to go??
    
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    August 25, 2018 3:23pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You would need to eat (chew thoroughly) somewhere between 200-5000 apple seeds at one sitting.
      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318706.php
      
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      August 25, 2018 3:42pm
Keeping Stock

Gerry Brownlee made a very good point on One News last night. By inferring that the Bridges leaker/texter, who the Speaker believes to be one and the same, is a National MP or insider Mallard has effectively smeared every National MP and their staff.

As an MP, Mallard was the King of Smears as the likes of Don Brash and Christopher Finlayson can attest. Erin Leigh doesn’t have fond memories of Mallard either, with him destroying her public service career in a manner that the Supreme Court ruled could make Mallard liable for a defamation suit.

Poacher turned gamekeeper maybe, but Mallard’s stripes and basest instincts haven’t changed. He constantly talks down to Opposition MP’s (once a schoolteacher…), and is still openly partisan towards Labour. His decision yesterday to can the Bridges leak inquiry whilst inferring that it was a National hit-job was a disgrace.

Imagine a National Speaker had canned an inquiry into a leak of Labour Party information; do you think Labour and NZF would go quietly? I suspect that when Parliament resumes on Tuesday week, Mallard will find this matter is not going to go away quietly, and we will find out whether Clare Curran’s demotion yesterday was a coincidence, a distraction, or something more sinister.
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August 25, 2018 8:55am
- KevOB
  
  I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a contrived publicity stunt. The only supposedly apparent gainer is the straw based PM.
  
  Setting up Bridges first was a good smoke screen. Taking out Curran even partially may have had repercussions from Winston. So having the Bridges denouement the same time (as previously determined) both drew off heat and showed the PM in full charger.
  
  Unless Winston is targeting Curran too expect retaliation.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:15am
- VicParking
  
  Maybe the outing (by the cops) of the leaker has got to close to the COL so the Duck closed it down. I notice Winston even started to shrill and Cindy raised a diversion, that happened in February, to crowd out the MSM. All conjecture, but this mess seems like a double bluff hit job starting to unwind.
  Neve were are you mummy needs you! ?
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:25am
  - Inandout
    
    How is young Nev at the moment?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:52am
- Viking2
  
  Nats have themselves to blame. THEY SUPPORTED his role as Speaker when they should have known it would end in tears for them.
  Stupid twats want to run the country.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:25am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    To be fair V2, Labour/NZF/Greens always had the numbers to make Mallard Speaker. You will recall however that even a straightforward numbers game couldn’t stop Chris Hipkins having a shocker, described by Stuff as “a facepalm moment”:
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98638163/government-forced-to-do-a-deal-with-national-after-failing-to-have-the-numbers-in-the-house
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:48am
    - Viking2
      
      One of the problems Key created was he went all socialist in his first year. He backed the Maori Party against Act. The Nats. have gone downhill ever since, appeasing the Maori and rewarding the socialists by enhancing various benefits, handing out money and generally encouraging the soft cocks to suck at the Taxpayer tit.
      
      They have become weak without staunch principles. No longer do they have an inspired set of principles proudly displayed on their website for all to see.
      They therefore lack a sense of purpose. All organizations need a sense of purpose and need to be accountable to that sense of purpose. (I have no doubt you expect that in your business or it would no still be there.).
      
      We have no idea what there goals and desires are any more nor about how they will attest to them.
      
      And that is Simon’s problem as well. Most do not know what he is up for. He goes with the wind like so many. Simon has the characteristic that he is a person that acts to stop a loss and not a person who acts to make a gain. Key had that as did Stephen Joyce. Leaders need that because it is the characteristic which drives action.
      
      Simon is a follower not a leader.
      Find a leader. There are a couple there.
      The fact they elected him as leader tells us something about the rest of them as well.
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:05am
      - Komata
        
        Viking: A most excellent summary; thank you. Hopefully someone WILL appear to replace Mr Bridges, and soon, but to date, they seem to be conspicuous by their absence. Were that it wasn’t so.
        
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        August 25, 2018 1:52pm
- Monique Watson
  
  It’s not a National MP leaking, and everybody knows who it is. Not Curran either. One guess.
  
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  August 25, 2018 10:05am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    No, can’t, as there are too many candidates that have that level of stupid as there major determining feature….
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:50am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Has he been in Australia this week?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:54am
    - VicParking
      
      And started to shrill once it got close, Phone call to the Duck. Thank god that the track is all weather.
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:40am
- rockape
  
  The Opposition needs to keep questioning the PM on whether she knows the identity of the leaker. ( Will she lie to parliament?) there are no excuses for that. They also need to keep the pressure on Curran as she is the weak link. However she may be put in witless protection until the reshuffle next month. If she really is the leaker ( and I believe she is) then she will crack.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:17am
DigNap15

Maori Vocabulary lesson no 15
Here’s annother missing entry from my Maori Dictionary.
Alluded
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August 25, 2018 9:13am
- KevOB
  
  Whaka. Like so & so.
  
  Maori has to make do with only a handful of words.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:16am
- VicParking
  
  Kua tohua
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:26am
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Trump: Impeach me and the market crashes

US President Donald Trump has responded to speculation that he might be impeached by warning that any such move would damage the economy.

In an interview with Fox & Friends, he said the market would crash and “everybody would be very poor”.

He was speaking after Michael Cohen, his ex-lawyer, pleaded guilty to violating election laws and said he had been directed to do so by Mr Trump.
Mr Trump has rarely spoken about the prospect of being impeached.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45285585

Can’t get any more bizzare than this.

Or is it idiotic? No it’s both!
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August 25, 2018 9:19am
- srylands
  
  I don’t know why you are incredulous. If he was forced from office, the markets would react adversely. So he is simply stating the obvious with his usual embellishments.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:31am
  - stephieboy
    
    srylands, not true. Life and business would go on as it did under Nixon.
    
    The Markets are not beholden to a single man and his fate.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:38am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Stop watching CNN stephieboy.
  There is nothing – NOTHING – in the Cohen and Manafort cases that can cause Trump to be impeached.
  Even if there was, and they got it through the House of Reps, it needs a grand majority in the senate. Won’t happen.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:38am
  - stephieboy
    
    Don the Kiwi, I’m not sure if Cohen and Mountafort were utmost on the President’s mind.
    
    There could well be something there that he is hiding.
    
    We await the mid terms with interest.
    
    BTW I much prefer Reuters , the Guardian and Der Spiegel or the BBC ( the latter as per my post )
    
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts/exclusive-trump-campaign-had-at-least-18-undisclosed-contacts-with-russians-sources-idUSKCN18E106
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:48am
    - Inandout
      
      Your ‘news’ preference illustrates exactly your IQ, and if you took a few moments to watch Mark Levin you may be enlightened as to what is really happening in the US. He analyses all the current news and is very thorough, not openly biased like the Guardian.
      
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      August 25, 2018 10:58am
      - stephieboy
        
        Inandout , beats Breitbart, Mark Levin and Infowars etc by far !
        
        Mark Levin lunacy,
        
        https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/838068431505211392
        
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        August 25, 2018 11:07am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        NFOCL
        SB refers to Mark Levin as a lunatic!
        Like Leving starts all his sentences with: “according to my friend Google”.
        Sigh
        
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        August 25, 2018 5:30pm
    - VicParking
      
      BBC is so Anti Trump, close second to CNN.
      Goat got your foreskin Stephie
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:44am
Captain Mainwaring

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12112455

Would Davis want prisoners to have the vote if he thought that they might be National voters?
Self-serving prick.
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August 25, 2018 9:20am
- VicParking
  
  A wanker in other words
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:27am
- Morrissey
  
  A lot of prisoners would vote National. Roger McClay, “Sir” Doug Graham, John “Cabbage” Banks….
  
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  August 25, 2018 1:18pm
- Inandout
  
  Like these Labour voters?
  
  http://www.police.govt.nz/stolenwanted/ten7
  
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  August 25, 2018 3:58pm
Jack5

Stuff today presents as though it were a news story a weekly “funny” commentary from the Christchurch Press.

Regular readers of the newspaper’s Saturday edition would know Andrew Gunn’s satirical column is printed every Saturday, even if they merely glanced at it and moved on.

On Stuff, Gunn’s article is presented as a straight news story rather than identifying it for non-Press readers as satire. And the Gunn article misses one of the trademarks of great satire: the Gunn words to new readers aren’t quickly obvious as satire.

The article/column begins by saying: “Former Australian immigration minister and unsuccessful prime ministerial contender Peter Dutton has confirmed he has no intention of giving up on his long-term ambition of deporting all Australian criminals to New Zealand.”

Some extracts, which if they were true, would be hailed by some on Kiwiblog as great:

Dutton added that it was his “fervent hope, Bruce” that he could convince new Liberal leader Scott Morrison to have the deport-all-crims policy in place by end of the year as a fitting tribute to mark Australia’s 230th anniversary.

“That day in 1788 when the First Fleet sailed into Sydney Harbour with a cargo of crooks, felons and convicts serves to remind us that Australia was founded on a proud tradition of dealing with criminals by taking them a long way away and dumping them in other people’s backyards.”

“It’s only fitting that we mark 230 years of civilised Australia by extending that tradition to our weak-arsed sooky Kiwi cousins.”

The stranger to the Gunn column could take it that it was Dutton himself who was being satirical.

Regardless, if only ….
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August 25, 2018 9:27am
Happychappy

The double standards of Winston as some say the most corrupt Politician that has ever graced the hallways of Parliament, to say National and Simon Bridges are wanting to use taxpayers money to clear National MP’s of the leak when they know it has come from one their own. This from a germ that is set to try and gain more than a Million dollar from taxpayers by taking legal proceedings against those that he believes leaked his Pension overpayments without conclusive proof.
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August 25, 2018 9:32am
wisteria

Someone leaks the expenses for the Leader of the Opposition and threatens mental health issues. This smacks of a beatup. All hell breaks loose and ultimately the Speaker arranges an enquiry and names the person who will undertake this. A QC is unlikely to play games with this as his reputation is on the line. In the meantime the Speaker has found out the name of the leaker and has decided that it would be detrimental to him and the government. Calls off the enquiry, while Simon says it should go ahead. Next the PM tries for a diversion by slapping Claire Curran with a wet bus ticket and “demotes” her but does not sack her. Who knows where the bodies are buried? Simon, you will come out the winner here because you have said there is nothing to hide for the National Party. The air gets murkier by the day.
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August 25, 2018 9:33am
- Prince
  
  And Mallard had the text containing the mental health issue on Monday. He met with Bridges in Friday and agreed the enquiry would continue. 30 minutes later he cancelled the enquiry.
  Why ? What changed his mind ? If he was so sure the leak was within National why not let the inquiry run its course and embarrass National ?
  Something stinks here. Mallard is using his office to protect a government mp. I’m not sure what option Bridges has but there must be a higher authority to draw on to expose the corruption that is evident.
  
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  August 25, 2018 10:12am
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    “And Mallard had the text containing the mental health issue on Monday. He met with Bridges on Friday and agreed the enquiry would continue. 30 minutes later he cancelled the enquiry.”
    
    Cindy had her meeting with Clare Curran on Monday, sacked on Friday.
    Coincidence???
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:18am
    - Monique Watson
      
      You got it! In one @Waikatogirl. Smokescreen and Culprit. Not pointing the finger, but it’s obvious.
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:30am
      - rockape
        
        If anyone really cared about the mental health of this person then surely they would do what they could to help them avoid the rigours of parliament. If they are subject to interrogation and the pressure of question time is that going to help their mental health issues. Another poster pointed out the treatment recently of Curran by Mallard in the house. Is that a sign of more to come?
        
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        August 25, 2018 12:12pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        At 10.05 you said it isn’t Curran.
        
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        August 25, 2018 3:46pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Did Curran dump Mallard, or Mallard dump Curran?
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:48pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      It’s not that important – they both probably deserve each other, but even that they are too stupid to recognise.
      
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      August 25, 2018 7:36pm
  - Paulus
    
    H2 told the Duck to cancel the enquiry,
    The duck does not have the intelligence to think of it for himself.
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:05pm
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I would think all National MPs would have their Leader’s mobile number. However, I do not think most or all National MPs would have the Speaker’s number. If that is the case that would narrow the possible suspects.

I could be wrong on MPs access to mobile numbers. I wonder if journalists would have MPs numbers or would have to contact them through thier office.
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August 25, 2018 9:35am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I think Curran would have the Speaker’s number, and we all know why.
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:43am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    To be fair, the Mallard/Curran story is old news, and Mallard has long since moved on. It is interesting though that he seems to hold Curran to a far higher standard of accountability in the House than he does with other Ministers. Is there some lingering hurt?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:41am
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    Agreed Captain. However, would she have Bridges’s?
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think any clever little office bod in Parliament would have Mallard’s no.
  
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  August 25, 2018 10:05am
- backster
  
  From memory I think both Soper and Dickens admitted having both Bridges and Mallards number yesterday afternoon. I expect other journalists also do.
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:21pm
Keeping Stock

I somehow doubt Tracy Watkins will be getting any more cuddles with Neve after this morning’s piece on Stuff:

Unfinished business can be toxic in politics. Which is why Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern should have ripped off the plaster and stripped her beleaguered minister Clare Curran of all her portfolios, rather than allow her to limp on with her authority undermined.

Curran already had form for doing the very same thing she was demoted over: failing to be upfront about dealings with people related to her portfolios.

Ardern will keep facing questions about why she failed to cut her loose.

Speaker Trevor Mallard has also created a vacuum that would only be filled by conspiracy theories and unanswered questions.

Having announced a full-scale inquiry into “limogate” leaking of Opposition leader Simon Bridges’s expenses just this week, he pulled the rug out from under it, creating bad blood between himself and National.

On any given day, either story would be huge.

But the mystery surrounding the identity of the person who leaked “limogate” makes it a story that won’t go away – which is why the timing of both of Friday’s big announcements leaves more questions than answers.

If nothing else, it will spark a multitude of dark theories. And it will do nothing for the already toxic state of relations not just between National and the Government, but National MPs and the Speaker.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/106549226/a-day-for-political-bombshells

Kudos to Watkins for seeing past the political spin and bullshit. This story is just getting started, whereas Ardern and Mallard could have shut it down yesterday.
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August 25, 2018 10:39am
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  KS ,
  
  Five force hurricane in a tecup stuff and all over a insignifcant beaucratic detail.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:04am
  - Swifty
    
    Misleading Parliament repeatedly is not a minor detail.
    
    Do try to keep up.
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:12am
  - Richard
    
    LOL. I can just about see the Lefties with hi-vis vests on, stop/go signs in hand and aggressively waving people away while shouting “Nothing to see here! Move on please! Nothing to see!”
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:17am
  - Nookin
    
    Perhaps you could explain what you mean by “insignificant bureaucratic detail”?
    
    Do you mean that it is a trivial matter that a minister in charge of making a significant appointment has secret meetings with a candidate, creating, in the process, the very clear impression that the other candidates are not on a level playing field?
    
    Or do you mean that it is insignificant that a minister, for the second time, fails to disclose same meeting thereby misleading Parliament?
    Unlike you, there are some who view with suspicion the fact that she suppressed any knowledge of a meeting with Carol Hirschfield who was believed to support the minister’s development plans for RNZ (which plans were opposed by the board). Then, she has another meeting but is even more cautious and careful to suppress knowledge of the meeting by, firstly, using her personal email address, then ensuring that the entry is not put in her diary, then failing to disclose the proposed meeting to any staff, then failing to make a record of the meeting subsequently (Penny would be apoplectic at the lack of public record) and, finally, omitting any mention of the meeting when expressly asked about meetings in Parliament.
    
    A niggling suspicion turns into an aggravating itch when the facts are put together alongside reports of a committee, established by the Minister, which happens to decide that the easiest way of ensuring that the taxpayer, who is funding the meeting, does not get to hear about the discussions is to overlook the obligation to take minutes.
    Is it really an insignificant bureaucratic oversight that the Minister who sets the bar is the common denominator for all of the transgressions?
    There are some dead rats, Stephieboy, that simply cannot be swallowed without choking. This is one of them.
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:29am
    - niggly
      
      Well said! I’m now wondering if this is Curran’s modus operandi, what’s the likelihood that she has had other clandestine meetings (and these two are merely the tip of the iceberg)?
      
      An interesting discussion on Radio Live Drive yesterday, the hosts had their left v right guest panelists and the “leftie” guest (Shane Te Pou I think it was, one of the more intelligent and balanced lefties out there) who knows Curran, mentioned words to the effect that she always likes to be in the “conversation” (note not his exact words as can’t recall it now) with people even when it’s not appropriate – she just can’t help herself from doing it!
      
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      August 25, 2018 11:58am
      - stephieboy
        
        It was a meeting with a minor official not a CEO or Head of Deaptment or whatever.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:50pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        It was not a meeting with a “minor” official.
        
        It was a meeting with a private entrepreneur about a new and important role in the NZ Public Service – Chief Technology Officer –
        
        The Chief Technology Officer will help develop a digital strategy for New Zealand, drive our digital agenda and respond to the opportunities and challenges of our changing digital world.
        
        http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/digital-economy/cto
        
        Why the clandestine, late night meeting, eh?
        
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        August 25, 2018 3:51pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @ Maggy – Why the Clandestine, Late Night Meeting? Ask Mallard. He knows what Curran does at clandestine, late-night meetings…..
        
        Actually, someone should OIA her diary to see how many other “meetings” have been missed, etc.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:51pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @rightoverlabour
        
        Your mind turns to dirty deeds and mine to dirty deals.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:59pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        No Stephie – it was a meeting with a man from the technology sector who has applied for the role of Chief Technology Officer, an appointment that will be made by – Clare Curran.
        
        It is an appalling lapse of judgment on her part, especially after she misled Parliament and the PM over the Carol Hirschfeld meeting. IMHO she is not fit to be a Minister.
        
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        August 25, 2018 10:20pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Stephie – Curran has admitted to misleading Parliament; twice. The first time, Ardern stuck by her. The second time Ardern has stuck by her; just. A $46k drop in salary is of no consequence whatsoever, given Curran remains a Minister, with all the perks that go with the job. Ardern has drawn her “line in the sand” on standards, and it is unacceptably low.
    
    As for Mallard, Tracy Watkins spells it out far more clearly and eloquently than I can:
    
    Mallard may not have done Labour many favours either. National’s response will be to blow smoke about the Speaker’s motives.
    
    And there’s where the rot will set in.
    
    Because both Mallard and Bridges have known about the text for a week – yet it was only on Friday that Mallard pulled the rug out from under the inquiry, just a day after appointing Heron to lead it.
    
    That was despite no new information coming forward in the meantime.
    
    National’s statement late on Friday makes it clear the party is losing confidence in the Speaker, especially after the bomb exploded on a Friday, just hours before Ardern stripped one of her ministers of her portfolios.
    
    It all adds up to National and the Speaker being on a collision course when Parliament resumes a week on Monday.
    
    The Government has the numbers for Mallard to survive a no-confidence vote should that happen.
    
    But it will make for a near-unworkable Parliament.
    
    If you think having a “near-unworkable Parliament” is an issue of no consequence to the average Kiwi, you couldn’t be more wrong.
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:59am
    - rockape
      
      Makes me think it wasn’t Mallards decision to pull the inquiry. As I said in another post, could Curran have confessed to the PM as it was bound to come out and could the PM have pressured Mallard. Question time may well be fun when it comes back. For sure the pressure on the leaker will only increase with time and that’s not good if you have mental health issues.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:46pm
      - rockape
        
        If this touches Mallard and Ardern then the whole house of cards built on their lies will crash!
        
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        August 25, 2018 4:25pm
      - realityczech
        
        If it touches Ardern the media will swing into overdrive running distraction stories, smears against National, and promoting Labour.
        
        There is no way they will let the sheeple turn on Ardern.
        
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        August 25, 2018 4:30pm
- Philview
  
  Let us not forget murky goings on with the last Labour Government involving the same people and also Communications. I don’t think the excuse of inexperience can wash.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5638025/Whistleblower-wins-defamation-appeal
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:07am
- RF
  
  Let’s face it. We have a very corrupt Govt run by Peters, Ardern and Mallard.
  
  Those 3 are very dangerous as the media generally support them.
  
  Unfortunately for them nothing lasts be it good or bad.
  
  When they fall from grace, and they will, it will be a pleasure to witness.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:17am
- KevOB
  
  Taking out Curran fully may have caused ructions with Winston–the COL may have been at stake.
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:51pm
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APB: Anyone seen Judith Collins?

Didn’t see her as Simple Simon’s grim-faced “supporters” stood behind him at that hilarious press conference yesterday.

So where the hell is she?

Did she take a “mental health day”?
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August 25, 2018 11:06am
- Monique Watson
  
  No. She’s counting the Numbers.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:08am
  - Morrissey
    
    LOL. Well said, Monique.
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:15am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  She was at a funeral you idiot.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:28am
  - Morrissey
    
    Were they burying Simple Simon in effigy somewhere?
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:30am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    She also said unequivocally on Twitter yesterday that she was not the leaker.
    
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    August 25, 2018 12:01pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      That settles it. She would never lie.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:00pm
    - Morrissey
      
      She also said unequivocally…
      
      “She also said unequivocally.” LOL.
      
      “She” is, I remind everyone, the notorious Judith “Crusher” Collins. No person with an I.Q. above room temperature would accept a thing Judith “Crusher” Collins said. As anyone who read Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics knows full well, her word is about as trustworthy as John Key’s promise to resign if it were ever shown that he had allowed illegal snooping on New Zealand citizens’ communications.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53cevOH2WAY
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:28pm
      - realityczech
        
        Collins and Slimeon will ensure a Labour victory next election. No amount of flag waving from tribal fanboys on KB will change that. Slimeon is lucky to get into double figures in preferred prime minister polls.
        
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        August 25, 2018 1:38pm
- Inandout
  
  Only Labs go to mental health camps.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:48am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I’d never heard of dog kennels described as ‘mental health camps’. How did your Labrador find it? Do all you snowflakes also send your dogs to special safe spaces for therapy?
    
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    August 25, 2018 11:55am
Nookin

I have, rightly or wrongly, perceived Tracy Watkins to be firmly in the camp of Jacinda. When I first read this article I was quite surprised that she viewed the matter from the perspective of adverse effects on the Labour Party.
As has been clear, the events of the last week are easy to spin either way – mainly because we are being denied the facts.
That Tracy Watkins should come out so explicitly suggests the possibility that she has information otherwise denied to the great unwashed and that this information does not augur well for the Labour Party.
I think that the only thing we know for certain about this is the fact that a certain investigative journalist will not be making official information requests to find out, among other things, whether any coalition MP has put a burner phone on their expense account of late.
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August 25, 2018 11:11am
- Inandout
  
  The news bosses are finally realising continual leftist articles don’t sell papers, or invite viewers.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:47am
  - DigNap15
    
    I wish that were true
    Lets have a year or all pro right wing National supporting articles!
    
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    August 25, 2018 4:16pm
Flash

Somebody should hold Tova O’Brien’s feet to the fire –
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August 25, 2018 11:11am
- Morrissey
  
  She can warm her little feet in front of the fire here at Chez Breen, any time.
  
  Yes she can.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:31am
  - rangitoto
    
    Hope you aren’t planning on putting yourself on your own groper list.
    
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    August 25, 2018 1:50pm
    - Morrissey
      
      MORRISSEY BREEN: She can warm her little feet in front of the fire here at Chez Breen, any time.
      
      Awkward silence….
      
      MORRISSEY BREEN: Yes she can.
      
      rangitoto: Hope you aren’t planning on putting yourself on your own groper list.
      
      JIM MORA: Heh, heh, heh. Oh that’s very good.
      
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      August 25, 2018 1:55pm
Viking2

Todays funny.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216068093872245&set=a.1889191746626&type=3&theater
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August 25, 2018 11:13am
Viking2

https://www.facebook.com/aussieas1/photos/a.1990567911179544/2277857209117278/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/aussieas1/photos/a.1990567911179544/2278394822396850/?type=3&theater
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August 25, 2018 11:21am
Viking2

https://www.facebook.com/aussieas1/photos/a.1990567911179544/2278351709067828/?type=3&theater

😆 😆
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August 25, 2018 11:23am
- mikenmildagain
  
  All great, V2. Did you catch this one?
  https://www.facebook.com/NRLMemes/photos/a.349534011801033/1985324328221985/?type=3&theater
  
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  August 25, 2018 12:04pm
  - Viking2
    
    Here’s two for you.
    
    https://www.facebook.com/aussieas1/photos/a.1990567911179544/2278496265720039/?type=3&theater
    
    https://www.facebook.com/aussieas1/photos/a.1990567911179544/2277440052492327/?type=3&theater
    
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    August 25, 2018 5:00pm
    - Viking2
      
      Rugby needs to be more inclusive to ’deserve’ title of national sport – PM.
      
      Rugby needs to be more inclusive, particularly of women, to be fully deserving of the title of New Zealand’s national sport, the Prime Minister says.
      
      Talking to a packed conference room at New Zealand Rugby’s first ever Women in Governance Conference in central Auckland this morning, Jacinda Ardern said rugby needs to “be a game for everyone, and that includes women”.
      
      https://www.newsie.co.nz/news/112211-rugby-needs-to-be-more-inclusive-to-rsquodeserversquo-title-of-national-sport-pm.html
      
      Another bastion of stale pale males fucked.
      Not a rugby person but this stupid tart should mind her own fucking business.
      Time for a male revolt I say.
      
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      August 25, 2018 7:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        I think Labour needs to make this policy at the next election. Bring in compulsory 50% women in the All Blacks. Cripples and brown ones too.
        
        Let the people know just how extreme they really are.
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:16pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        “Ardern said rugby needs to “be a game for everyone, and that includes women”.
        
        She needs to wake up.
        Hellooooo…………The woman are playin rugby tonite.
        What planet does this lame brain inhabit?
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:40pm
Stars And Stripes

So the Jan Thomas defence of health and safety has now been effectively used to cancel a parliamentary enquiry as it may be dangerous for the leakers mental health.
Yeah well the neighbours dog and the skanky cat across the road are not conducive to my mental health either so maybe I should plead the old Jan Thomas if they disappear one day.
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August 25, 2018 11:31am
Manolo

It was easy money for the terrorists. No more.
https://www.apnews.com/3149b034ef4a4b92a6dbb9c4aa1f5ca7

The Trump administration has decided to cut more than $200 million in bilateral aid to the Palestinians, following a review of the funding for projects in the West Bank and Gaza, the State Department said Friday.

The department notified Congress of the decision in a brief, three-paragraph notice sent first to lawmakers and then to reporters. It said the administration will redirect the money to “high priority projects elsewhere.”
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August 25, 2018 11:31am
- Inandout
  
  Whereas Obama would bend over and invite his enemies to boot him, and then continue funding them. It had to end sometime.
  
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  August 25, 2018 11:44am
- realityczech
  
  200 million is chicken feed compared to what Obama spent funding jihadist groups to destroy Syria.
  
  I agree with Trump cutting the funding, but if he really wants to save money he can cut the billions in “aid” to the rich country of Israel.
  
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  August 25, 2018 1:16pm
- Morrissey
  
  Nobody who is not a moral reprobate would endorse a single word of your ridiculous post. The following message is not intended for you or anyone else in the small minority of self-deluding fools who choose to support the aggressor and not the victim….
  
  The people of Gaza have been subjected to decades of expulsion, occupation, siege and massacre. They have now seized control of their Fate. They are risking life and limb as they protest nonviolently to reclaim their basic rights.
  
  It takes just one minute to send a video showing your support for Gaza in its moment of truth.
  
  Do it now! Send your videos to metoogaza.com
  
  http://normanfinkelstein.com/
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:11pm
Fletch

Will just leave this here –

https://youtu.be/L63Q91T2jcA
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August 25, 2018 12:29pm
- Morrissey
  
  I recognize Motormouth Hosking in that clip, and of course I recognize Cap’n Mainwaring’s fantasy woman. But who is that dim, silent, glum fellow?
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:31pm
Lance

Todays ‘feral scum getting off lightly, to hell with the victims’ story
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12113365
Bloody filth
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August 25, 2018 12:35pm
Ross12

You know it is going over the top and they have lost the plot, when Facebook bans/deletes a video about the USA national anthem

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/facebook-censors-star-spangled-banner-video/
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August 25, 2018 1:09pm
- realityczech
  
  People have no idea how much electronic media is censored already. They don’t know what they don’t know. And they don’t believe it when you tell them.
  
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  August 25, 2018 1:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ross 12 , not according to this You Tube link,
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxGNQE5ZLA
  
  Sigh..!
  
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  August 25, 2018 5:40pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Ross12 makes a post about FB banning the US National Anthem, and you offer a You Tube clip for what reason? What is your point?
    
    Sigh..!
    
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    August 25, 2018 10:30pm
Morrissey

She’s a Liar!
No. 1: THERESA MAY

Judith Collins, who “unequivocally denies” leaking Simple Simon’s scandalous spending figures, is by no means the only notoriously dishonest woman in politics.

When it comes to repulsive, disgusting and vindictive lying, the British are possibly better—or more accurately, worse—than anyone else. There’s the ridiculous yenta Dame Hodge, of course, and we’ll deal with that particularly nasty woman in due course. Meanwhile, please enjoy, or at least try not to vomit, as you watch the dire, dismal, doomed, and disgraceful Mrs May, liar without a conscience….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNwELXefMqo

“She’s a Liar!” is compiled and presented by Hector Stoop, for Daisycutter Sports Inc.
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August 25, 2018 1:35pm
- realityczech
  
  Morris Dancer, fair enough – but when it comes to corruption our very own Helen Clark wins the grand prize.
  
  And let us remember the government themselves decided Curran was the least corrupt among their number. What does that tell us?
  
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  August 25, 2018 1:40pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Indeed, my friend, Clark is on my list.
    
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    August 25, 2018 1:51pm
    - realityczech
      
      The trouble is people are increasingly supporting bad things out of tribalism. They are not concerned with what they did – but who did it. This is ultimately very destructive to their preferred group and to society generally.
      
      If Labour did something good I would say so. If National does something bad I would say so. However I tend to support more of National’s actions than Labour’s. Though it is a lousy choice as neither fits my liberal leanings very well.
      
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      August 25, 2018 2:03pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Which of the National Party’s actions do you support? Illegal surveillance of all New Zealanders? Rorting of housing allowances? Touting New Zealand at trade shows overseas as a low wage economy? Attacking free speech? Running a brutal campaign of character assassination out of the Prime Minister’s office?
        
        And surely you didn’t support National’s notorious water policy?….
        
        https://goo.gl/images/5QeNWw
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:22pm
      - realityczech
        
        Morris Dancer, Yes I support all of those things along with their policy of killing the babies of brown people as part of their secret race purity agenda, which they got from Putin.
        
        I do wish they would be more proactive about wiping our free speech though – like Labour is.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:29pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Kea, wiping out free speech . At least they have not wiped out your crazy rants.
        
        Be grateful for small mercies.
        
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        August 25, 2018 2:36pm
- Komata
  
  Morrissey: Not Hilary Clinton for your first entry? She makes Ms May look so amateur. Perhaps she shoukd be No.2; ahead of H Clark?
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    Clinton is a straight out criminal and a hideous warmonger to boot.
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:16pm
    - stephieboy
      
      kea, the current president is one too for his support for the 2003 and 2011 bombing of Libya.
      
      Also for using the largest non nuclear bomb in world history over Afghanistan.
      
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      August 25, 2018 2:42pm
  - Morrissey
    
    She was a consideration for No. 1, but right now it’s a couple of British women right at the top—or should that be right at the bottom of the abyss?
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:24pm
    - Komata
      
      Morrissey
      
      Re: ‘…Right now it’s a couple of British women right at the top…
      
      Why?
      
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      August 25, 2018 5:12pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Dame Margaret Hodge is perhaps the most vicious liar since Alan Dearth o’ Wits. Theresa May is almost as bad. It certainly puts paid to that old nonsensical canard about women running the world and bringing peace.
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:27pm
rockape

On the subject of the leaker. Some dots to join! The police refuse to say who the leaker was and they have no need to tell Mallard as they were happy the inquiry continued. So who gave Mallard the name? Unlikely it was from National. So did it come from Labour? Did Curran tell Jacinda and did Jacinda tell Mallard to close it down for Currans “Health reasons”?
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August 25, 2018 1:41pm
- rockape
  
  Forgetfulness (Currans excuse for misleading the house) is an early sign of depression. https://themighty.com/2017/02/depression-brain-fog-forgetfulness-memory/
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:15pm
- rockape
  
  Currans Nick Name isnt Foggy Clare for no reason!
  
  “I came across the term “brain fog” only recently. I had never quite thought of depression this way, but the metaphor seems fitting. When you are depressed there’s something that seems to obstruct your interaction with other people. It isn’t a physical barrier. It’s some sort of foggy, misty sort of apparition I can only assume comes from some of the cognitive symptoms associated with depression.
  
  The first fogginess I remember experiencing is impaired memory. It was so frustrating to realize I could no longer hold assignments and documentation deadlines in my head. In the past, I could remember the dates and times of appointments and major due dates for a month or more without a planner. I used to write things down in order to have something to refer back to, but rarely needed to. More often than not, I just checked to satisfy my anxious and perfectionistic tendencies. When I realized how significantly my memory had changed, it chipped away at my previous identity. I panicked when I realized I couldn’t study and remember information the way I used to.”
  
  How often has Curran said she “cant recall that” at question time!
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:20pm
  - stephieboy
    
    The reality is only a minor beaucratic detail in her diary.
    
    You do better!
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:39pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Curran has a whole staff to assist her with recording things in her diary.
      The former Minister for Open Government has gone to some lengths to withhold the fact the meeting occurred and the substance of it from her staff.
      If Curran’s memory is that bad it is surprising she manages to attend so many un-diaried meetings.
      She is either mad as a snake or a lying devious manipulating person – or both.
      
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      August 25, 2018 4:03pm
    - rockape
      
      No she lied in parliament and used the diary entry as an excuse. If that was all it was fool, why did Jacinda sack her.
      
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      August 25, 2018 4:28pm
- RF
  
  Or was it Ardern. She is a known flake. This proven by her handwringing and anxious self doubt expressions prior to taking over from Little. Or was it a big act for the media.
  
  The speculation could run for many months thanks to the duck….
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:39pm
Morrissey

Of course no National M.P. had anything to do with it. Judith Collins has “unequivocally” denied it. That should settle all the unease, and instantly restore the Simpleton’s credibility and mana.
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August 25, 2018 1:53pm
- BlueGriffon
  
  Simon certainly has you lefties in a muddle. Is there some internal polling we should know about?
  
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  August 25, 2018 2:07pm
  - realityczech
    
    Labour thanks you for talking Slimeon up and supports him running as leader in the next election.
    —————————————————
    At a time when his profile should have been getting more attention – the end of his countrywide ‘get to know me’ tour and his upbeat, drum-beat video introducing himself to potential voters at the National Party conference – Bridges was down two points to just 10 per cent support as preferred PM.
    
    That puts him back where he was in April, a month after taking over the leadership from Bill English.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12101665
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:11pm
    - calendar girl
      
      The childish “Slimeon” witticism that you are now repeating on this thread does nothing to substantiate any argument or point of view that you may have.
      
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      August 25, 2018 4:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        Gee I was really hoping to win your approval, along with that of your fellow intellectual and moral cripples Mrs Bridges.
        
        Slimeon will be most pleased with your efforts. Now get back in the kitchen.
        
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        August 25, 2018 5:00pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        But it’s good to know that we can add calendar girl to the list of Kiwibloggers who will complain about any disrespectful references to Ardern, Peters, Robertson, Goff, etc.
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:55pm
  - Morrissey
    
    The only one in a muddle in this case is the Simpleton. Although those unhappy “colleagues” standing behind him also looked pretty muddled, as in “How the F*CK did I end up standing here pretending to support this gibbering n**bskull?”
    
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    August 25, 2018 2:27pm
    - realityczech
      
      “is the Simpleton”
      
      Careful Morris Dancer. You might get told off for being “childish” by the National Party speech police. 🙂
      
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      August 25, 2018 5:03pm
Piniwi

The trolls have obviously all had their instructions to help fuel the Labour cover story being pushed to protect somebody in their ranks who is the leaker. History however will record it differently after the silly little girl partially demoted a Minister from her cabinet not so much for her two devious actions but three. The last being a futile attempt to win favour before confessing to the PM that she only records minutes and notes that sill survive OIA scrutiny. All other events and encounters are only personal matters.
The majority are not surprised to see the silly little girl again making a fool of herself in front of her Media party shills who rush to broadcast how decisive she is. However there is growing concerns about the disaster that will be ushered if this dumb creature every really does make a decision of her own making. LOL
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August 25, 2018 3:02pm
Steve Wrathall

Another local body Goff wannabe who thinks council facilities should denied to those he politically disagrees with:
Green PN councillor Brent Barrett wants to “explore appropriate use” of council facilities so that it does not support”… weapons expos, hate speech, or any other areas where there are ethical, moral or other factors to consider”
https://www.facebook.com/brentbarrett4pncc
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August 25, 2018 4:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh gosh, this is just so absoludely funny…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/24/unlucky-country-new-zealand-has-fun-as-australias-political-gloom-deepens
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August 25, 2018 5:15pm
- realityczech
  
  Nothing more than a promotional fluff piece for the evil meat sack and her cursed spore.
  
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  August 25, 2018 5:16pm
  - stephieboy
    
    kea, Julie Bishop or Judith Collins?
    
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    August 25, 2018 5:34pm
Odakyu-sen

It’s 5:30 p.m.
My wife is preparing sashimi in the kitchen.
I am enjoying a (very cheap) South African Merlot from Countdown (the house of fine wines…).
If I get more money, I’d like to do this (a wine tour in Japan) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbOuuSRxus
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August 25, 2018 5:33pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  For a cheaper version… try this:
  https://www.tairawhititours.co.nz/packages/wine.asp
  
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  August 25, 2018 5:42pm
  - nasska
    
    We spent a week in Gisborne a couple of years ago & it was amazing how the fertile plains around Manutuke & Ormond were now covered with vineyards.
    
    Maize, pumpkins & a few big gardens supplying Watties used to be about it.
    
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    August 25, 2018 6:19pm
    - realityczech
      
      It is alarming how much prime horticultural land is now used to make a harmful drug.
      
      Meanwhile you pay $7 for a cauliflower at times.
      
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      August 25, 2018 6:24pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”It is alarming how much prime horticultural land is now used to make a harmful drug”….
        
        Yet a far less harmful drug has to be grown under lights in wardrobes!
        
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        August 25, 2018 6:31pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s a patchwork of productivity..
      Citrus and Persimmon orchards don’t seem to be expanding…
      but there are big new Apple, Feijoa , and Kiwifruit plantings.
      
      Maize, Kombucha squash are still big summer crops…and Leaderbrand has year-round Green vege.
      
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      August 25, 2018 6:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

https://sciblogs.co.nz/guestwork/2018/08/24/science-pr-and-dirty-tactics-qa-with-nicky-hager/
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August 25, 2018 6:22pm
- realityczech
  
  Wiggles, Was Hager talking about the multi trillion dollar green industry that is enabled by paid off scientists?
  
  Hager looks like he has been hitting the meth pretty hard recently.
  
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  August 25, 2018 6:43pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Perhaps, he is here..
    “Another aspect that I’ve come across and written about is where there are organised efforts to buy influence over scientists and medical people and so on – people who are the experts that society relies on for different issues. Where organisations like a lobby group or a PR company deliberately decides to give research funding to particular scientists or academics who they think are closest to their point of view.”
    
    Just in case some Big PR company wants to pay me mega $$$$$ , I can be contacted at:
    Maggles Konsultancy
    Kaiti Mall
    
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    August 25, 2018 7:21pm
    - realityczech
      
      Yep I have my price. I will happily lie about the weather for enough $$$
      
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      August 25, 2018 7:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Should we go into partnership?
        
        Unfortunately, I am cheap and rather lazy…
        So you might have to do most of the work.
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:31pm
      - realityczech
        
        Same here. I was just going to cut and paste Griff’s comments 🙂
        
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        August 25, 2018 7:33pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @rc
        
        good idea…
        I’m sure it’s not plagiarism if you cut and paste a cut and paste.
        
        Bags I do the Appendix – Of True Believers – remember those looooooooooooong columns he used to paste?
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        You realise Griff never read any of that stuff himself Maggy? ☂ ☁ ☀
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:42pm
    - nasska
      
      With the incredible bias, which is Hager’s hallmark, the other side of the argument is completely ignored.
      
      The SJW, Green, “save the whales” types are not usually flush with funds to buy influence so rely on pressuring political parties & recruiting mad women with slogans like “will no one think of the children”. These emotive liars also have the media in their pockets.
      
      Therefore the business lobby have to rely on PR specialists & rational scientists to counter the messages else we, the public, would be eating fern root & searching Trade Me under the “caves for rent” heading!
      
      Fortunately both sides usually cancel each other out & leave the sane to get on with their lives.
      
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      August 25, 2018 7:40pm
      - realityczech
        
        The green movement gets a heap of money. But the real money is in the spin off of the wider green industries that cash in on peoples need to virtue signal. Green consumerism is massive and that is serious money.
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:00pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”Green consumerism is massive and that is serious money”…..
        
        You’re not wrong. This morning SWMBO issued me with a short yet detailed shopping list indicating that I was to be trusted to go shopping at Countdown by myself.
        
        Not to let the side down I gave the harridan masquerading as a check out chick a couple of sugar bags to pack my purchases in.
        
        Going by the reaction I can’t wait to try out my new kete next week! 🙂
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:14pm
      - realityczech
        
        I now buy extra thick plastic bags and are about to invest in a big stock of bin liners. I just need to find a way to make them radioactive.
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:44pm
- MrTips
  
  Why is Hager called an investigative journalist? He has physics and philosophy degrees but no journalism training, as far as I can tell.
  
  I’m an investigative journalist too if that’s all that’s needed.
  
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  August 26, 2018 2:15am
mikenmildagain

Still time for big bruv and Longknives to clean up at the tote tonight, with the TAB paying $9 for the Wallabies to win.
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August 25, 2018 6:32pm
- Longknives
  
  You would be mad to bet against the All Blacks these days Mikey!
  The whole Rugby World knows (a source of great amusement outside NZ) that the terrified ref will always bail them out when they are getting beat..
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:19pm
  - Morrissey
    
    That was certainly the case in the 2011 RWC final farce.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:29pm
Viking2

Rugby needs to be more inclusive to ’deserve’ title of national sport – PM.

Rugby needs to be more inclusive, particularly of women, to be fully deserving of the title of New Zealand’s national sport, the Prime Minister says.

Talking to a packed conference room at New Zealand Rugby’s first ever Women in Governance Conference in central Auckland this morning, Jacinda Ardern said rugby needs to “be a game for everyone, and that includes women”.

https://www.newsie.co.nz/news/112211-rugby-needs-to-be-more-inclusive-to-rsquodeserversquo-title-of-national-sport-pm.html

Another bastion of stale pale males fucked.
Not a rugby person but this stupid tart should mind her own fucking business.
Time for a male revolt I say.
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August 25, 2018 7:16pm
- stephieboy
  
  V2,
  “Time for a male revolt I say.”
  
  You lead the charge , I say
  
  Yawn…
  
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  August 25, 2018 7:34pm
  - nasska
    
    How’s your goat? 🙂
    
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    August 25, 2018 7:44pm
    - Viking2
      
      The goat is hermaphrodite or even might be transsexual.
      Any anyway we wouldn’t expect a smelly bearded goat herder to front up as a real man.
      
      The mysteries of the smelly bearded goat man.
      http://www.greeneggsandgoats.com/2013/09/goat-myth-busters-billy-goats-are-stinky.html
      
      The stinkier the buck, the more the ladies try to get into the buck pen. Maybe that’s what is meant by the term “animal magnetism.”
      
      Now we know why they can mage 6 wives. 😆
      
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      August 25, 2018 8:01pm
      - Viking2
        
        And here’s what you need to do.
        
        https://www.menshealth.com/trending-news/a19518547/lessons-from-the-goat-man/
        
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        August 25, 2018 8:03pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X, have you discussed your friendship with you goat with GoVege?
        
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        August 25, 2018 9:37pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  “Time for a male revolt I say.”
  
  All you’ll do is confirm her prejudice – “The males are revolting!” 😉
  
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  August 25, 2018 7:53pm
  - Viking2
    
    You might be but some of us are good quality.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:08pm
- realityczech
  
  These Labour policies do not get the media coverage they deserve.
  
  Everyone needs to know Ardern wants laws passed to force gender equality in the All Blacks.
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:07pm
Viking2

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/why-wasn-t-clare-curran-stripped-of-all-her-portfolios.html

the news media are not impressed I suspect.
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August 25, 2018 8:09pm
Monique Watson

Where did I hide the whiskey?
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August 25, 2018 8:10pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s 1:13am in California.
  Don’t you think a warm cocoa would be more advisable?
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:14pm
  - sam green
    
    Curdles.
    
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    August 25, 2018 8:26pm
    - Jack5
      
      This source suggests it’s okay if you put the whisky in last, Sam.
      
      https://www.chowhound.com/post/alcohol-curdle-milk-592950
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:34pm
Monique Watson

Haha Maggy. I was just about to have a cup of tea 🙂 I don’t drink much stronger these days.
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August 25, 2018 8:22pm
- nasska
  
  Be daring! Dissolve half a tab in the milk & add a powdered Valium to the teabag. 🙂
  
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  August 25, 2018 8:30pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Heh! I learned about two years ago that nothing knocks me out, so don’t bother trying. I just joke about it. Macabre humor. I almost died when I was 31. Massive stroke. They told Hubby he would be a widow by morning. But they’d go in anyway. They lifted off a good portion of my head and said I’d be knocked out for four weeks. Enough meds to knock out a rhino for a month. Heh! He went home and they rang him three hours later to say, “she’s awake”. “We don’t know how it happened”!
    He said: “She used to drink a bit at college”.
    They said: “she might have tolerance then” 🙂
    🙂 Since then I’ve had the odd beer but nothing too much. I think I had one bottle of wine on an occasion last year. What a mistake. I just threw up on myself. Not an experience I want to repeat.
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:07pm
Jack5

The Chinese Communist Party is increasing pressure on ethnic Chinese living overseas to strengthen China’s “soft power” and silence dissenting voices, reports an American commission.

Couldn’t be happening in NZ, of course, could it?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2161306/chinese-communist-party-stepping-efforts-stifle-dissent
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August 25, 2018 9:32pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Sounds very much like the behaviour of the Juice diaspora who are always silencing dissenting voices and reports – even here on Kiwiblog i.e. Mandk & Southern Raider
  
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  August 25, 2018 9:40pm
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    Here’s an important historic video clip for you, EADolf!
    
    https://youtu.be/iqd4eupmYm8
    
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    August 25, 2018 9:46pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Here’s an important informative video clip for you, JACKboot❗
      
      https://youtu.be/NNRwvar_QNA
      
      Here’s the deal – you watch mine and I’ll watch yours and we’ll compare notes next week.
      
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      August 25, 2018 9:53pm
Monique Watson

While Judith is off doing the numbers:

https://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F37368%2F1331575709_0.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gpforums.co.nz%2Fthreads%2F473835-World-s-biggest-testicles-last-night%2Fpage2&docid=IOLd9yNOybAW6M&tbnid=0tWXMYZOkUlT4M%3A&vet=1&w=600&h=643&hl=en-gb&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim
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August 25, 2018 9:34pm
Rachael Membery

Just as am aside, if we were to close all of the prisons today, where would all of the prisoners live?
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August 26, 2018 6:29am
- Komata
  
  Rachael
  
  Where? probably with anyone they could strong-arm into submission and ‘persuade’ to take them in.
  
  The Police, of course, would not intervene…
  
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