General Debate 22 August 2018

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AgainstTheFlow

Glad I’m no longer living in Australia.
The politics is toxic, and the Libs have lost all common sense since 2007.
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August 22, 2018 8:01am
- Longknives
  
  My mates in Aussie tell me they are glad they aren’t living here!
  
  ‘Is that chick Adern who wants all the Refugees for real?’
  ‘Wait till you get the Boatpeople’
  ‘Is it true she’s a Communist?’
  Etc Etc
  
  If I didn’t have elderly relatives who are very unwell I would be looking at getting my family the hell out of this Country- Economy collapsing, More Refugees coming, Labour soon to close all the Prisons….NZ is about to nosedive!
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:06am
  - Inandout
    
    Then you have Melbourne and Sydney with ‘diverse’ suburbs that most people won’t enter. If you can get rid of this infestation Aussie may once again be a great country.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:14am
    - Piniwi
      
      But Inandout there have been no go areas in Sydney and Melbourne for a long time that were avoided as much as possible by the majority.
      
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      August 23, 2018 12:08am
  - Chris R
    
    Knives: Sadly you’re right. I am married to an OZ citizen and while JK’s government was in I would boast about this country. At the time all OZ had to offer was a queue of leaders much like the embarrassing array NZ Labour had during that time. I find Ardern truly cringe worthy and her cohorts to be smug, incompetent and human hating. The damage Ardern’s circus is inflicting on NZ will be difficult to remedy and impossible to live down. Having said that, a Simon Bridges’ led National is not a solution.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:49am
  - RF
    
    On a recent trip to Aussie I heard a radio host talking about the Kiwi bimbo. I must have been thick as at first I did not realise he was talking about our glorious PM until the name Manus Island was mentioned.
    
    I had figured Rachel Hunter.
    
    Ardern is considered a toxic joke over there.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:58am
    - Chris R
      
      RF:…and here!
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:11am
    - Longknives
      
      One of my old mates from University lives in Sydney and works as a lawyer- He is the one who asked if she was ‘really a Communist’?
      I send him the link of her infamous ‘Comrades,Comrades’ speech.
      
      His response- “How in the hell did THAT get Elected??”
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:56am
      - igm
        
        Long-: Let’s get it right, Crockery was not elected, it was “Selected”, by Toxic Gnome with a fiscal vendetta against anyone who has disagreed with him.
        
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        August 22, 2018 3:20pm
- wiseowl
  
  Well the Libs have to get rid of Turnbull ,the guy who is a Labour member in drag and is a puppet of big business.
  His obsession with the Paris agreement raises questions and the way he undermined Abbott shows what an arse he is.
  Fascinating stuff and National MP’s should be watching and learning.
  MP’s are there to represent the people not the corporates and immigrants.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:07am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Australia & the UK, like NZ needs politicians who are proper leaders. Sadly, none of the 3 countries has them at the moment. What we have are politicians who play to their audience, and do not think through (or care) what the consequences are of their policies.
    
    Dutton for example is a dangerous extreme, who plays to a portion of the Liberal party and would do more damage to the Liberal party than good. While I have no problem with his policy on the illegal refugees, his approach to legal due process and the rights of non Australians is abhorrent and wrong on so many counts.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:25am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Daily reminder of Malcolm Turnbulls (who just happens to be Jewish) recent utterances:
    
    “We are a nation that does not define its nationality, its identity, by reference to race or religion or cultural background or ethnic background,
    
    People from every corner of the earth, from every religion – or of none – and every race can connect, be inspired by, be part of [our] values. That is Australia”
    
    Got that – those newly arrived violent African savages terrorising Melbourne are just as “Australian” as those descended from the European settlers who cleared the land with their bare hands and built the roads and schools and hospitals + sacrificed their lives in the great wars so that there sons and daughters may live free.
    
    It was like when John Key (who also just happens to be Jewish) said that newly arrived Chinese buying up NZ property using offshore trusts were “just as Kiwi as the rest of us”.
    
    If this is the case, just where are European people allowed to have as a place that is uniquely theirs especially when as Barbara Lerner Spectre famously put it: “Europe is now going into multicultural mode where us Jews will be resented for our leading role”?
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:17am
    - tf78
      
      Don’t forget Chinese people have been living in NZ since the gold rush days. They are generally very pleasant people if you take the time to get to know them.
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:06am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Thats cool tf78,
        
        I take it you don’t live in an area which has been utterly transformed by mass migration to an extent where our national language is hardly heard on the street?
        
        But that’s all OK in your books – as long as the Chinese remain “generally very pleasant” they can come here in unlimited numbers because a handful of them came here to pan for gold 180 years ago.
        
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        August 22, 2018 3:13pm
secondcumming

On Yer Bike!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlJZZvRWsAEszpr.jpg

🙂
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August 22, 2018 8:02am
- waikatogirl
  
  Glad JAG had a boy. I wish him a wonderful life. His mom can remember one day that her wee baby will be an old, pale, stale male.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:07am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    But WG you presume too much.
    Remember gender fluidity?
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:11am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Ah, I forgot. ?
      I guess the chances are pretty high he will grow up to be a know-it-all Greens voter!
      
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      August 22, 2018 8:18am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        As least he hasn’t got two mums
        
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        August 22, 2018 8:20am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Poor wee tyke, having a mun that preaches hate against you and others like you.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:20am
  - VicParking
    
    He might be a tandum or even a uni-cycle
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:27am
    - sooty
      
      Just remember when he’s old, stale and pale, what’s she gunna be?
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:43am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        dead
        
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        August 22, 2018 11:17am
- JibberJabber
  
  The eyes, the eyes be the window to the soul and that one be Batshit cray, cray.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:14am
- Fletch
  
  I wonder if she’ll be cycling back home with baby in the front basket carrier?
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:22am
  - backster
    
    Don’t think so her partner had to drive behind in the car to pick up the bike and drive home.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:45am
  - Viking2
    
    So now we have a prince to go with the princess!
    
    Markist Royalty.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:45am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Suspect her ‘nether regions’ somewhat too sore for return stunt !
    
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    August 22, 2018 1:17pm
holysheet

An 80-year old Italian man goes to the doctor for a check-up. The doctor is amazed at what good shape the guy is in and asks, “How do you stay in such great physical condition?” “I’m Italian and I am a golfer,” says the old guy,” and that’s why I’m in such good shape. I’m up well before daylight and out golfing up and down the fairways. Have a glass of vino, and all is well.” “Well,” says the doctor, “I’m sure that helps, but there’s got to be more to it. How old was your Dad when he died?” ”Who said my Dad’s dead?” The doctor is amazed. “You mean you’re 80 years old and your Dad’s still alive. How old is he?” “He’s 100 years old,” says the old Italian golfer. “In fact he golfed with me this morning, and then we went to the topless beach for a walk, that’s why he’s still alive… he’s Italian and he’s a golfer too.” “Well,” the doctor says, “that’s great, but I’m sure there’s more to it than that. How about your Dad’s Dad? How old was he when he died?” ”Who said my grandpa’s dead?” Stunned, the doctor asks, “You mean you’re 80 years old and your grandfather’s still living! Incredible, how old is he?” “He’s 118 years old,” says the old Italian golfer. The doctor is getting frustrated at this point, “So, I guess he went golfing with you this morning too?” “No. Grandpa couldn’t go this morning because he’s getting married today.” At this point the doctor is close to losing it. “Getting married! Why would a 118 year-old guy want to get married?” ”Who said he wanted to?”
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August 22, 2018 8:04am
- calendar girl
  
  Love it!
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:59am
Lance

I see one commentator described Dutton as an ‘undertaker’.
He wasn’t wrong.

Bloody hell, he may the best Aus has to offer!

They need lots of Unicorns and Pixie Dust so they could project a wonderful virtue signal to world like NZ.
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August 22, 2018 8:04am
- G152
  
  And all his mates are disappearing into the background with him.
  Aussie gets the pollies they deserve
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:08am
  - Paulus
    
    So do we – we “voted for a change” and look what we got !
    
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    August 22, 2018 1:44pm
- srylands
  
  I heard someone on the radio today saying that Dutton had inflicted misery on New Zealanders. Don’t know what that is about.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:27am
Chuck Bird

FYI

Jordan Peterson, What’s Trumps IQ, Why people voted for Trump, Why Democrats lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUUC-SjwQp0
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August 22, 2018 8:05am
- thedavincimode
  
  It would be interesting to know Peterson’s thoughts on the IQs of people who voted for winston peters or why they might have done so in light of peters’ appallingly dodgy track record of bullshit, bluster and bare-faced lies over the last 30 so years. I can’t imagine the answers would be particularly flattering.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:16am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I am sure he would say it was less than Trumps but a lot higher than yours.
    
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    August 22, 2018 1:12pm
- Colville
  
  “America decided that they liked the impulsive unscripted lies of Trump more than the scripted conniving lies of Clinton”
  
  true dat.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:06am
Shaun the Sheep

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108196

Two HNZ new builds have guards to stop the feral from stripping them out before tenants move in.

Problem is HNZ has 50 new builds on the go in HB.
Property theft from building sites is such a problem it’s long overdue for a Police sting.
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August 22, 2018 8:08am
- kowtow
  
  But “Aotearoa” is now internationally notorious for its violent crime.
  
  Reading between the lines this looks like a “sovereignty” issue.
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/21/teenager-two-men-shot-surfing-remote-invitation-only-new-zealand/
  
  Talking of “gun crime” , how many people were shot in London and Chicago in the past couple of days.
  
  Is it a gun issue or a race issue ?
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:23am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I read online that a group of classic car enthusiasts doing a tour were recently threatened by armed Maoris in the same area too. On a public road while stopped to look at the view, they were accosted by a group of Maoris with guns who told them to piss off or they would shoot them and smash up their cars.
    
    This is New Zealand. In most civilized countries this would be met by an armed police sweep of the area in force at the very least and maybe a military operation on helicopters to arrest these assholes.
    
    But in New Zealand? The police response has been “Oh that’s not very polite. We’ll look into it and see if these people are members of our sergeant’s tribe. If not, we will certainly think about issuing a strongly worded press statement next week.”
    
    Quite apart from the very obvious threat of racial warfare here…. do the police or our politicians realise what this will do to our image in the international tourism industry? Travel Advisory: Quite a nice place to go for the scenery, but there are closed areas where you’re likely to be attacked by Maoris with guns.
    
    This is deadly serious.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:57am
    - igm
      
      Don’t worry the horse-faced Mr Ed and Toxic Gnome are in their pockets for sure.
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:02am
    - kowtow
      
      You read that online in a relatively obscure site.
      
      Now I don’t wonder what the MSM reaction would have been if a group of armed whites did something similar .
      
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      August 22, 2018 11:23am
    - Piniwi
      
      No worries DM the Minister of Tourism has it all sorted as he will have them directed native war dance lessons to they can be more welcoming.
      
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      August 23, 2018 12:20am
  - LTA1955
    
    Back in 1988 we were fishing at Marokopa just down the road from Albatross Point, and decided to stay the night there. We had rifle rounds going over our heads all night because the locals got upset about us pitching a tent in a road siding. We didn’t take their offer up of a ripoff tent site, full of mud and no facilities, and covered in cowshit. Its nothing about heritage blah blah blah, its about “its ours anyway”, (its not), we didn’t sign the treaty in 1840. They act outside the law and no one doesn’t anything about it down there. Need a visit from the AOS ASAP.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:57am
    - Dave Mann
      
      So this has been going on for thirty years and nothing has ever been done about it?
      
      Forget the AOS then. The police broke up a terrorist training camp in the Uruweras and all they got for their trouble was screeds of criticism in the media for ‘overreaction’ and ‘racism’…. so they’re obviously too scared to take on this lot.
      
      Probably needs a group of experienced hunters to go in and kill the lot of them. That’s what it will come to eventually if the state continues to tolerate these scum.
      
      South Africa in the making.
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:36am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Nobody will ever be charged – the prisons are full
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:27am
- Huevon
  
  That house looks better than mine! What a mug I am working for a living and paying off a mortgage.
  
  The Great Unwashed get handed these gold-plated homes by the Idiot Ardern and just trash them anyway.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:50am
  - igm
    
    Don’t forget leeching Labourites we are financing $12 million odd because they had not insured their properties.
    Seems quite strange, surely they would have had mortgages, which should have been called in as “Security at Risk”.
    If this was something we were financing and had been notified of insurance lapses, there would be immediate action to protect our interests.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:08am
Longknives

I wonder how this family feel about Labour’s big lovefest with Criminals and their plans for a future with no consequences for Maori Offenders?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12110914
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August 22, 2018 8:09am
softail 1450

Poor Boy,,,,, Genters little newborn boy has a terrible
future,in the blink of an eye decades will pass and he will find himself to be despised by his mama as an “entitled middle aged white man”
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August 22, 2018 8:09am
- Longknives
  
  I was expecting the child to be ‘Gender Neutral’.
  
  I bet the Midwives were terrified at telling the revolting cow that her kid was a boy…
  They would have been bracing for- ‘How Dare you assume my child’s Gender!!’
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:11am
- Harkman
  
  Oh no he will be completely brainwashed to thinking being white is bad.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:28am
  - sooty
    
    What do you rekon?
    A right little mummys boy?
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:38am
    - Harkman
      
      Or don’t you mean “A left little mummy’s thing?”
      
      She’ll probably dress him up in pink because she is “just so progressive thinking.”
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:04am
- Souvlaki
  
  I am affronted that ‘ its ‘gender has already been assigned !
  No doubt the errant paediatrician has been sent to a gulag for re-education, or is, as I type enrolling as unemployed at nearest WINZ office 🙂
  
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  August 22, 2018 1:24pm
Inandout

Calm down Duncan (some Maori words), just calm down (some more Maori words), it is not the gangs’ fault they kill people.
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August 22, 2018 8:10am
- softail 1450
  
  Inandout, and both garner and mark folded to his veiled threats…
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  link please
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:24am
- cmm
  
  “A young man has died”
  
  No he was killed by a feral gang member.
  
  Same with car crashes. Cars don’t “leave the road”. Their wanker shit-head drivers crash them.
  
  Enough of this passive victim-culture bullshit. Unless we start to call a spade a spade we won’t get anywhere.
  
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  August 22, 2018 1:01pm
hullkiwi

What a surprise Kelvin hosts a talk fest. It has been called out as one by Mark Mitchell. So, in response the likes of Jarrod Gilbert (who is a member of the Govts criminal justice advisory group) says such a characterisation is unfair. The reality yesterday was an opportunity to vent their spleens’ about their problems, with no solutions offered. When Gilbert was asked by Espiner this morning whether he had he learned anything new that he hadn’t heard before, he recalled the speech of a victim of crime, because he only talks to the criminals.

When asked for solutions, the reality is he has none except mouthing platitudes about rehabilitation once people are in the system. No mention about how to discourage people from offending in the first place. The old let’s put an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff rather than get people going over the cliff in the first place!
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August 22, 2018 8:12am
- Longknives
  
  I watched some highlights online.
  I saw about three Government Ministers profusely apologising to Maori…”We have failed you” wah wah
  
  Pretty obvious which way this is going to go-
  Apartheid Justice System is coming!
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:19am
  - VicParking
    
    Where will they house all these prisoners they let out. Well there are lots of farms owned by white middle aged males in the Waikato. Send a Minister over to S.A. To study their policy of land distribution.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:35am
    - dave_c_
      
      Yup Vic – So they can build their own whares and live directly off the land, off grid, based on their own hard yakka.
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:01am
      - VicParking
        
        They will be given WINZ farms to supply their electricity.
        
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        August 22, 2018 9:21am
      - Komata
        
        Dave c: Yeah, right!! A story which might amuse: Many years ago in an unnamed rural district, there was a very prosperous and highly, indeed nationally, regarded dairy farm. It was held by a hard working Anglo-Kiwi, who had leased it, bare and undeveloped, from the local iwi. This organisation had renewed the lease over the years without comment or any input of any sort, until the day came came for the lease to be renewed again. This time, determined to profit ftom the farm’s reputation, the iwi refused to renew! The farmer protested, but to no avail. Rebuffed, the farmer made no further comment, but made certain, necessary, arrangements. He then flattened every building on the property, burning the remains, sold his herd and machinery and removed all interior fencing. The iwi, aghast and incensed at the prospect of loosing their ‘golden goose’, demanded an explanation. They got one, short, and to the point. The farmer fronted up, then said: ‘When I took over this property, it was bare, undeveloped and unfenced. Over the years you have been content to take my money, while I put my time effort and money into it. Now you want it back, and so you can have it, in the same condition in which I originally received it from you’. The iwi pleaded, they begged, they made all sorts of potentially-attractive offers. The farmer refused them all, then left the district to enjoy his ‘freedom’; he had other things to do. And the returned land? The last I heard, it was growing Gorse, Raupo and Rabbits, and for some unexplained reason, no-one is interested in working it. The iwi, of course, will not work it themselves; they are not interested in doing so.Some have suggested that what has resulted is an example of the ‘Law of unintended consequences’ at work; I am, of course, unable to comment.
        
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        August 22, 2018 6:28pm
  - KevOB
    
    They don’t realise Polynesia has Maui, a trickster, as a hero. They know suckers when they see them and it is culturally appropriate to take advantage.
    Chinese in commerce similarly.
    
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    August 22, 2018 10:43am
- Harkman
  
  When I was at Canty Uni many moons ago Jarrod Gilbert was the Student Union President and he organised a march for “free tuition.” They blocked the Riccarton road roundabout, ruined a lot of people’s day. At that stage a year’s fees were like $3,200. If that is of any help to his ideological persuasion.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:33am
  - hullkiwi
    
    On RNZ Morning Report he made it very clear he is Labour. So, you can see who is informing Angry Andy & Kelvin. Help!
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:38am
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    He’s a sociologist.
    You don’t need any more information about him.
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:57am
Happychappy

Didn’t Labour promise the voter at the last election that they would fix what we have been told NZ has a problem of just over 20000 homeless. Well the latest data to be released has this figure increasing to 26000 by 2024 so Labour is all piss and wind with no substance and another of their promises ends up in the to hard to achieve basket.
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August 22, 2018 8:18am
- VicParking
  
  But its a big job to turn back nine years of mismanagement. We will need at leasr 250 working groups and so far we only have 152.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:39am
  - sooty
    
    None have reported back yet. Troughing takes time. Yeh no!
    
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    August 22, 2018 11:14am
Paulus

How delighted I am to see that I have the option of no longer Insuring my house or Underinsuring it.
I as a taxpayer are pleased to see that I will fork out (initially) $12,000,000 to these people in Christchurch.
These of course are the people who did not settle earlier – those who will now come back for more to get what these people are getting.
These do not include those 1,600 under dispute with Southern Response – owned by us the Taxpayers.
We were told that we would be kept aware of how all these are to be settled promptly..
Like Kiwibuild – sweet f.a.
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August 22, 2018 8:18am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  Yep, shit deal for those who don’t want insurance, shit deal for those that pay for their own insurance. And because the government had to spend a lot of money they have come up with a legal requirement that all insruance is now ‘agreed value’ instead of replacement value.
  
  This is because replacement cost is always more than agreed value. Because we have inflation and all costs go up each and every week/month. Therefore even if you hire an actual expert to quote you, and you get everything right, and you accurately estimate the cost of removal, then the next day the bills already gone up…
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:24pm
- cmm
  
  Shit deal for the suckers that:
  * Actually work, can you believe it WORK, when WINZ just gives you cash for free.
  * No need to service your car either. If it breaks down WINZ will give you a top up. Only an idiot would pay.
  * Control their fertility until they can afford to care for a kid. Why? More kids = more WINZ… and they say I wasn’t good at maths!
  * Take care of their rental & pay your rent. Nope the taxpayer must give you accommodation, so why do all that hard work?
  * Feed the kids? Don’t be stupid – they do it at school.
  * Cook a Christmas meal. Naah, the City mission will do that and do the washing up too.
  
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  August 22, 2018 1:07pm
Keeping Stock

Nice to see a High Court Judge has imposed a full Three Strikes sentence:

http://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/r-v-waitokia-1/@@images/fileDecision?r=685.782178946

Justice Collins has done the community a service by sentencing Hayze Waitokia to seven years imprisonment without parole for stabbing another man in the leg. Waitokia has a lengthy criminal record, with his First and Second Strike offences being a serious assault and a sexual assault respectively. Collins J has ruled that the full Three Strikes sentence was not manifestly unjust.

Well done Justice Collins. You have probably done yourself out of a promotion to the Supreme Court bench of to Chief Justice, but you have done the right thing in fact and in law.
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August 22, 2018 8:19am
- Longknives
  
  ‘Hayze’
  
  That ridiculous name says it all really…
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:20am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes I wrote a few years ago that a person with a stupid Christian name can be held back.
    It also shows how stupid their parents are
    Eg could you see them being a CEO ?
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:50am
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      DigNap15 , like Sonny Boy etc?
      
      Now is Hayze’s opportunity to turn his life around. It would not be different if he was named Sam, John, Brian etc.
      
      There is no evidence if it was otherwise.
      
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      August 22, 2018 8:57am
      - VicParking
        
        Stephie, turn your own life around and let the goat do the mounting ??
        
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        August 22, 2018 9:24am
  - lifesgood
    
    Probably conceived while his parents were hazing.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:28pm
secondcumming

Yesterday, Leighton Smith discussed the manifestly inadequate *12 year & two month prison sentence*, handed down to ‘a 73-year-old Whangarei grandfather, found guilty of raping and abusing three of his young granddaughters, aged between 6 and 8.

He pleaded guilty to *17 charges of sexual violation by rape* between February 2016 and November 2017. He blamed the kids behaviour, saying they were”naughty” and they kept “jumping” on him while he was looking after them.

One would certainly need to wonder what was going on previous to this……or was this the first time?

Some family, huh?
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August 22, 2018 8:19am
- Harlequin
  
  In mitigation he offered that his service in Vietnam and the resulting PTSD was a reason for his offending.
  There are more than a few Vietnam Vets out there who would like to have a meaningful discussion with this fellow.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:39am
oldpark

When the John Key /Bill English Government reigned between 2008 to 2017 NZs well being and economy roared ahead.
NZ survived Two earthquakes and a massive GFC worldwide collapse.NZ was the envy of the world the superior way Key/English got us through the tough hard times.
Sadly with the mad dog decision by Peters to throw a spanner into the well being of NZs and their way of life and select a Government of Corruption and Chaos,anecdotal evidence is showing that after just under one year with the change of Government our well being and economy is tanking.
It is starting to look with Peters help and input NZ will after all have the GFC financial crash that Key/English protected us all with their superior financial and leadership skills. Sadly what price UTU on a Nation as exercised by the meglamaniac Peters. Go Figure, as the good ship NZs economy heads for the rocks.
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August 22, 2018 8:22am
EAD_TWO

The last Nazi war crimes suspect facing deportation from the US was taken from his New York City home and spirited early Tuesday morning to Germany, the White House said.

The deportation of the 95-year-old former concentration camp guard, Jakiw Palij, came 25 years after investigators first confronted him about his World War II past and he admitted lying to get into the US, claiming he spent the war as a farmer and factory worker.

Palij lived quietly in the US for years, as a draftsman and then as a retiree, until nearly three decades ago when investigators found his name on an old Nazi roster and a fellow former guard spilled the secret that he was “living somewhere in America.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-deports-95-year-old-former-nazi-camp-guard-to-germany/

Well, the Jews can sleep safe in their beds now that this single 95 year old man has been deported from their midst.

It doesn’t matter what happened or didn’t happen, what he did or did not do, that he has spent most his life as an American, as long as they get their man.

But try deporting a Somali bomber who has actually killed people and you will get the same people lobbying to make it impossible to do so.
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August 22, 2018 8:25am
- stephieboy
  
  EADTWO, I wonder how many times he stubbed his toe putting the boot into Jew and other Untermenschen inmates?
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:32am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Jakiw Palij sounds like a Polish name, not a German one.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    An ethnic Ukrainian and Nazi collaborator ,
    
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nazi-collaborator-jakiw-palij-arrested-new-york-deported-germany-n902441
    
    Ukrainian SS collaborators and Camp guards were known to be especially brutal towards vctims
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:43am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Lots of Ukrainians identified Nazis as the lesser of two evils vis-a-vis Bolsheviks, for reasons that made excellent sense at the time. In hindsight they might well have been better off with the devil they knew, but it’s a toss-up.
      
      The jobs of herding people into Gulags and working them to death, or shooting them into mass graves, were hardly unusual ones for the region at the time, regardless of whether it was Bolsheviks or Nazis giving the orders. Singling this old codger out for whatever involvement he might have had in it is just grotesque.
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:30am
EAD_TWO

Why is this not been given World Wide Coverage except by the “far-right” media?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-19/britain-backing-south-africas-land-confiscations-white-farmers
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August 22, 2018 8:29am
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  The headline is framed as a question not a statement of policy or fact.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:34am
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    Some history and reasons behind the impending land confiscations,
    
    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-purpose-in-confiscating-land-from-white-farmers-in-South-Africa
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:40am
    - Scott
      
      That’s all very well stephieboy but the fact of the matter is that white farmers own the land and the government of South Africa is just going to take the land from them. Once a government decides to in effect abolish private property then a nation is in deep deep trouble.
      
      What will happen as in Rhodesia is that white farmers will be driven off the land, the land will be taken over by interests that have no idea how to farm the land. Food production will drop sharply and South Africa will be well on the way to becoming a basket case, as has happened in wealthy colonial Rhodesia, now known as the Third World nation of Zimbabwe.
      
      South Africa used to be a very nice country. Unfortunately it seems that black Africans are unable to run a nation well? I know that sounds very prejudiced but I am at a loss to know of one African nation that is doing well?
      
      Here in New Zealand we should be grateful for the legacy of Western civilisation that sustains us and gives us good governance. And we should stop trying to muck it up as the left is keen to do.
      
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      August 22, 2018 8:55am
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        “…sustains us and gives us good governance. “??
        
        Like the present Col?
        
        A return to white minority government and apartheid?
        
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        August 22, 2018 9:02am
      - Scott
        
        Stephieboy – no the current coalition that governs this country would not be included in my definition of “good governance”. However they are the exception to the rule. Generally our country runs very smoothly particularly when you compare it with African nations for example.
        
        I don’t think anyone would want to see a return to apartheid. However the inability of black Africans to run any sort of decent nation is a big concern. They inherited South Africa, a prosperous first world nation. And through a mixture of tribalism, hatred of White people and sheer bone headedness, they are in the process of turning it into yet another Third World hellhole. Which is very sad.
        
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        August 22, 2018 10:02am
srylands

I heard someone on the radio today saying that Dutton had inflicted misery on New Zealanders. Don’t know what that is about.
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August 22, 2018 8:30am
- oldpark
  
  He sent or deported 1000 Aussie/Kiwis criminals back to NZ.Most of them had lived in Australia up to 99% of their lives.They knew no one in NZ. In fact their Australian family were penalised by having a parent deported just because they may have been an infant when they arrived in Australia.,from NZ.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:57am
- DigNap15
  
  He means the misery that will be inflicted upon us by this crime wave.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:34am
Harkman

Naturally the msm in the US fails to in form people of research like this from real clear investigations.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/08/13/trump_tower_meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html

“after the Ohr-Steele-Simpson correspondence – was first reported in June by RealClearInvestigations. It shows that, starting in March 2016, FBI confidential sources and other figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton…… According to the dossier, Trump himself as well as aides Paul Manafort and Carter Page were in clandestine contact with the Russian government. “If that was really the case,” former FBI agent Mark Wauck told RealClearInvestigtions, “it’s not clear why the Russian government needed a British music publicist to make an overture. And why would Moscow need to send a Russian lawyer who didn’t speak English to Trump Tower? That tends to confirm that the meeting was intended as a setup.”

It was all a set up.
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August 22, 2018 8:43am
- stephieboy
  
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  RealClearPolitics,
  
  Once a birther always a birther,
  
  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/09/23/once_a_birther_always_a_birther_131876.html
  
  LOL
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:51am
- Harkman
  
  And yesterday when I Google searched Trump for a giggle at his Twitter account, the 3 news links displayed were naturally all left wing outlets (conveniently) and 2 of the stories were from CNN. One read that Trump was stressed about Don McGahn’s newly revealed testimony to the Special Counsel, but McGahn testified 6 months ago and said nothing. The other CNN story was “Donald Trump’s future is spiralling out of his control” and he is a nervous wreck because if Manafort goes down for 2005 tax evasion charges Trump is finished, no mention of the fact that since 2005 he has worked for McCain and Romney or a host other Republicans, no only Trump is guilty of employing a senior Republican Mandarin. Just pathetic.
  
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  August 22, 2018 8:54am
- Scott
  
  Yes I am coming more and more to the conclusion that those people who accused Trump of colluding with Russia, were actually all the time colluding with Russia themselves!
  
  The Steele dossier which was the foundation for the investigation of Trump was done with Russian collaboration and brought and paid for by the Democrat National committee.
  
  And the person who is squawking the most about Trump right now, former CIA director John Brennan, was involved in colluding with the DNC and the media to pass on information! He wanted to get a special counsel in place to investigate Trump and bring him down.
  
  So there was definitely a conspiracy to collude with Russia and affect the result of the 2016 election. But it was all done by the Democrats aided and abetted by the Justice Department and the FBI and the CIA to then bring down the duly elected President of the United States.
  
  One can only hope that the attorney general Jeff Sessions will shake himself off from his slumber and start investigating and then pressing charges against this nefarious and criminal activity.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:01am
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    Scott, only if you could back your claim with actual evidence and facts.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:04am
    - All_on_Red
      
      There’s plenty of evidence in the email trail between Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Steele
      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/emails-show-2016-links-among-steele-ohr-simpson-with-russian-oligarch-in-background
      
      You’re probably a bit too dumb to work it all out though
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:15am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red, plenty of evidence to the contrary,
        
        https://newrepublic.com/article/150244/russian-interference-20
        
        DUH ! ( yet again and and again)
        
        And on it goes,
        
        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/us/politics/oleg-deripaska-paul-manafort.html
        
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        August 22, 2018 9:23am
    - Scott
      
      Stephieboy – you want evidence and facts? That’s fair enough so I am going to give you some homework. This afternoon turn on your TV, tune it to FoxNews, and watch Hannity.
      
      Hannity along with the most excellent Sara Carter and Greg Jarrett will take you through the full 9 yards. All the collusion with Russia of the DNC, the Hillary Clinton campaign, John Brennan, Bruce Ohr, Fusion GPS, the Russians, the FBI, the Department of Justice and the Trump hating mainstream media.
      
      And who knows you might learn something!?
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:07am
  - Harkman
    
    That Brennan, why is he so angry? Oh that’s right, if Trump lost he’d be still CIA director with all that power. Clapper, he’d have a high ranking position, probably Secretary of Defense. Sally Yates, Attorney General. Comey, FBI director.
    It all makes sense now.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:10am
    - stephieboy
      
      “It all makes sense now”??
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/14/trump-russia-investigation-explained-latest-news-charges
      
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      August 22, 2018 9:30am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        “Unmistakably responsible for Mueller’s declining stock is Donald Trump, who has steadily railed on Twitter against the “criminal deep state” and its “witch-hunt” designed, Trump claims, to avenge the election loss of Hillary Clinton.”
        
        Unmistakably responsible for Mueller’s declining stock is his inability to produce a shred of evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, and despite substantial evidence that the Clinton camp was in it up to their little pink ears, no charges have eventuated.
        
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        August 22, 2018 10:01am
  - UpandComer
    
    It took me ages to research all this so I don’t apologise for length.
    
    01 – 05 Clinton Foundation Investigation, grand jury impanelled. Obvious malfeasance on vast scale. Not a single donation declared. Investigation fizzled, why?
    
    From 05 – James Comey headed the Clinton investigation.
    
    Lois Lerner was appointed to run the Tax Exemption branch at the IRS
    
    Rod Rosenstein (current deputy AG to Mueller) was appointed to run tax division at the Department of ‘Justice’.
    
    Robert Mueller was in charge of the FBI.
    
    All of them ran corrupt interference on the Clinton Foundation – Read Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer. It was like Cohen on alien crack-cocaine.
    
    Fast forward to 2009:
    
    Comey leaves DOJ to cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
    Clinton runs State Department off not one but TWO illegal email servers (there was another one even more open then the illegal one in Chappaquiddick).
    Bill goes to Russia, gets paid $500k for a single speech, then again, and again, meets Putin for a few hours.
    Clinton (despite the lies from Snopes etc) strong arms through the state department sale of 20% of US’ uranium supplies to Russian interests.
    
    Robert Mueller was FBI director at the time – he even sent uranium samples to Russia personally.
    
    Rod Rosenstein was handling the Uranium One investigation from in the DOJ. He destroyed the whistleblower who leaked to the NYT about Clinton’s treason.
    
    After the sale of America’s uranium was approved, 145million entered the Clinton Foundation.
    
    Guess who was in charge of the Charitable division at the IRS at the time? Lois Lerner.
    
    Fast forward to 2015
    
    During the Benghazi investigations, Trey Gowdy, discovers that Clinton ran the State department on an unauthorized, un-fire-walled, un declared personal email server. It wasn’t Clinton using Gmail. She had a stack of virgin hard drives in a basement where she ran a parallel operation to avoid Federal discovery laws.
    Gowdy found Clinton didn’t provide any of the emails on the server as required by Federal law when she left the SD.
    Those emails contained top secret information.
    Hillary went as far as to use bleachbit software and actual sledgehammers to smash up her hard drivers and delete evidence of her illegal activity.
    
    James Comey was appointed as FBI director in 2013 after Mueller. After securing no less then 17 bids for LockHeed Martin from the Clinton State Department and an unprecedented $6million ‘exit fee’ from Lockheed Martin.
    
    He then becomes in charge of the FBI investigation into Clinton, after exonerating Lois Lerner for her own destruction of evidence using bleachbit and sledgehammers at the IRS.
    
    In 2016 Comey drafts Clinton’s exoneration letter. He provides immunity to every individual who might implicate her or anyone else.
    
    Rosenstein becomes assistant AG.
    Comey leaks government data to the press. In fact, the media, CNN, MSNBC, illegally possessed the unredacted FISA documents which cited the fake hilariously stupid ‘pissgate’ Michael Steele dossier that Nunes has demanded the DOJ to release, which Rosenstein won’t release.
    Mueller is appointed by Rosenstein to the Trump investigation to cover for decades of corruption and malfeasance.
    
    James Comey’s brother worked at DLA Piper the law firm that handled the Clinton Foundations taxes. The Clinton Foundation despite being the biggest case of illegal campaign contributions in history has never once been audited by the IRS.
    
    Lisa Barsoomian is Rod Rosenstein’s wife. She represented Bill Clinton in 98 when he sold nuclear secrets for Chinese dark money. She’s represented James Comey, Robert Mueller, Barack Obama, Kathleen Sebelius, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton dozens of times with her boss R Craig Lawrence.
    
    All court documents of Barsoomian representing the above, in cases such as Hamburg v Clinton (1998) and it’s appeals in the DC district and Appeals court have been purged.
    
    Barsoomian specialises in quashing Freedom of Information Acts made to the FBI and other deep state agencies. She is stashed in the National Institute of Health. But she doesn’t work for the NIH.
    
    In 1998 US Attorney General Robert Mueller let the single most prolific child porn abuser of all time walk free with a $200 fine. Because of that individuals’ political connections.
    
    This is the scale of the Swamp. In the interests of brevity I’ve avoided a huge amount of malfeasance.
    
    And DPF (who I’m a fan of) claims that Cohen paying Stormy Daniels money (when the Clintons would have just murdered her) means Trump should be impeached. It’s not even a campaign contribution. Yet he pled guilty to it. Why?
    
    Note that today Imran Awan has walked free. That Mossad Pakistani and his family had access to no less then 59 different DNC Congress people’s email servers at Root level.
    
    He employed his whole family: his brother Abid, their wives, the older bother Jamal, and Rao Abbas who Imran owed money.
    
    He was employed by 44 different DNC offices directly, and they all wavied background checks, even though he went bankrupt in 2012 and spent months of the year working from freaking Pakistan.
    
    He transferred a USB in April to his father Haji Awan and boasted that he had the power to change the US President.
    
    He used Congress as a second hand pawn shop, selling surplus government hardware and using the money for drugs and prostitutes.
    
    And he got off scot free today – given immunity by the Department of Justice in return for, probably nothing.
    
    This is the Swamp. You can verify every word I say.
    
    Trump has literally done nuffin wrong. After almost 2 years of relentless illegal investigation (robbing documents subject to legal privilege), all these swine have are a ludicrous interpretation of ‘campaign finance’ re Stormy Daniels, and Manafort in the Ukraine.
    
    I haven’t even covered Mueller, Rosenstein, Lerner and Barsoomian covering Clinton’s massive transfers of money and tech to Skolkovo Valley (Russia’s militarised Silicon Valley) in return for Clinton Foundation donations from the Russian tech oligarchs.
    
    I also haven’t covered the revelations of deep state interference in every US election since Jimmy Carter.
    
    I haven’t covered the recent memo leaked from the FBI showing the David Brock ‘Media Matters’ NGO colluding with the major socials with the deep state to dox and deplatform conservatives.
    
    The rule of law is dead in the United States. The constitution is dead in the United States. Apparently common sense is dead in the United States.
    
    I think Trump won’t lose the Congress. I think he’ll gain in the senate. And I think ultimately he’ll win the war against the Deep State in the United States.
    
    Just because your mind can’t hold onto a mass of corrupt detail doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
    
    Trump won’t lose the House. And hopefully he’ll be able to return a semblance of the rule of law after the House elections and his second term.
    
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    August 22, 2018 4:17pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Well done U&C.
      It’s a deep, deep swamp.
      Little wonder that some think Trump should be stopped at all cost when there is real risk their gravy train could derail.
      
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      August 22, 2018 6:10pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Well, it gets even more interesting. George Papadopolous was handed $10K by a fellow in Greece in Jan 2017. GP then flew to the US a couple of days later and was detained at the airport and searched – not arrested, just strip searched. Why, well they were expecting to find the $10K which would be a breach of currency regulations, but GP had left the money in Greece.
  
  How did the Treasury agents know to target GP ? Well, it turns out that the fellow handing over the money was a CIA asset – gets mentioned in a 2006 telegram released by Wikileaks when he was in South Africa. So further entrapment.
  
  Goes with the earlier efforts using CIA and other western security services agents Mifsud and Stefan Halper to dangle “Russian Dirt” on Clinton in front of Carter Page, GP, and others.
  
  You can see why Mueller was chosen now, his record of prosecutorial misconduct and willingness to persecute innocent people for political reasons must have looked very promising to those organizing the soft coup.
  
  The rot goes deep, and sedition charges now seem more than possible against Brennan, Yates, Comey, and others from the Obama administration.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:10am
  - Harkman
    
    Shit I hadn’t heard this one but I had heard spies were setting him up.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:16am
  - stephieboy
    
    “prosecutorial misconduct”?
    
    Such as ..?
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:32am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      You need better sources.
      
      https://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Liars-Leakers-and-Liberals-Jeanine-Pirro/9781546083405
      
      and an open mind.
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:23am
  - Komata
    
    Ed; if only, yet paralysis seems to have best thise who SHOULD be doing that, especially a certain Sessions, J. It begs the question: Is he afraid if something and if so, what? The Clintons have form in such matters…
    
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    August 22, 2018 7:02pm
DigNap15

We need to tell Kelvin Davis and Willie Jackson etc to tell their people to sto pcommitting crimes, so that we dont need to lock them up.

Get some manners
Speak English properly
Get a trade
Get some respect, and a work ethic
Study our new immigrants and see how they succeed!
Have some pride in your appearance.
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August 22, 2018 8:53am
- Deadly pony
  
  Yes this. Whenever I hear KD bleating that his tribe have the world’s highest rate of incarceration I always mentally cross out ‘incarceration’ and replace it with ‘criminal offending’.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:17pm
  - Paulus
    
    Am I wrong but do Maori get locked up without having a long criminal record – often extensive over many years ?
    No crime – no prison – sounds logical – um !
    
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    August 22, 2018 1:53pm
- lifesgood
  
  Stop getting nasty scribbles all over your face and body.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:30pm
DigNap15

Which brings me to our latest Maori word.
Its the word for Patronising.
Oops, sorry its not in my Maori Dictionary
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August 22, 2018 8:55am
- MCos
  
  It may not be in your Maori dictionary, but it most certainly is in your personal English one.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:17am
  - DigNap15
    
    Today’s word was presented as a result of a request by another KB member. I have been going through the alphabet.
    Also did you see my patronising post at 8:53.
    Can you disagree with it?
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:33am
- VicParking
  
  Patene
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:30am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Patronising has different meanings in English.
  
  As a verb it could mean:
  1. acting as a patron;
  2. acting in a condescending manner towards someone;
  3. frequenting a shop/business.
  
  As an adjective:= condescending
  
  My Ngata Dictionary gives
  
  whakaparahako for 2.
  and
  tautoko for 3.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:58am
Manolo

stephieboy is jumping with joy:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/sp-futures-fall-after-former-trump-lawyer-cohen-says-candidate-directed-him-to-pay-off-porn-star.html
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August 22, 2018 9:01am
- Harkman
  
  Cohen is in trouble for $20m in tax dodging, now he is singing, but from his audio it didn’t show this.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:14am
dime

We should run a “famine pool” for south africa.

i reckon 27 months.
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August 22, 2018 9:08am
- VicParking
  
  It seems the first type land to be taken will be game reserves. This will increase the amount of food not reduce it.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:33am
  - cmm
    
    Do you know why this land is game reserves? Because it is unsettled.
    
    Do you know why it is unsettled? Because it is a poor place to grow crops – especially with traditional farming practices.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:50am
    - VicParking
      
      The two taken both Border a big Government Reserve and have Coal reserves.
      
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      August 22, 2018 3:24pm
- cmm
  
  Well what do you mean by famine?
  
  If it wasn’t for the evil white people helping out, South Africa would have been in a famine for at least 4 years now.
  
  But the luvvies can’t let South Africa starve. They want to keep the Rainbow Nation myth going.
  
  They already need massive food imports – having previously been a net food exporter:
  https://www.export.gov/article?id=South-Africa-agricultural-equipment
  
  “South Africa imported $7.0 billion in agricultural and food products in FY2016, which was at the same level as in FY2015. The major products imported were corn ($505 million), rice ($424 million), wheat ($367 million), chicken cuts and offal ($268 million), palm oil ($265 million) and soybean meal ($197 million). South Africa is usually a net exporter of corn, but due to a severe drought in the 2015/16 season, which decreased production by almost 50%, imports of more than three million tons of corn were needed to fulfill local demand.”
  
  Drought… yeah, maybe. Some of the reason the droughts are so much of a problem now is that the farmers are not going to be investing into irrigation equipment etc during the current uncertainty. And the banks are going to be slow to lend anyway.
  
  Any farm that has good irrigation and is highly productive during a drought is going to be in the starting line-up for land appropriation. It fuels envy and greed..
  
  The other factor is that much of the appropriated land is either just unused or is being tilled by subsistence level traditional agriculture. This absolutely kills productivity.
  
  Commercial level production is needed to sustain something like 2000 mouths per farm. The traditional methods of a woman with a hoe and a baby on her back is not enough to feed a family, let alone 2000 people.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:48am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    The rainbow nation will be massacring each other within a decade, and blaming the Kulaks/colonialism for it. Seems it takes more intelligence than Africa can muster not to run a country into the ground.
    
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    August 22, 2018 11:26am
    - kowtow
      
      Massacring each other?
      
      They have been for some time now.
      
      The anti white lefties ( media, ngos, churches , etc) make sure Sharpeville is front and centre , Marikana not so much.
      
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      August 22, 2018 11:47am
Tom Barker

Does it count as Trump Derangement Syndrome to point out that having both his former campaign manager and his personal lawyer facing serious prison time is not a good look for the president?
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August 22, 2018 9:16am
- dime
  
  nup, but the flashing red banner on the herald does.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:22am
  - VicParking
    
    Ofcourse if the the same charges were layed against Hillary’s team I’m sure they would come out squeeky clean
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:35am
Captain Mainwaring

So much for the luddites who opposed partial privatisation of the power companies.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106462506/crown-may-be-getting-more-in-dividends-now-than-before-electricity-company-sales

Thanks National.
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August 22, 2018 9:26am
- septic skeptic
  
  Any correlation between the divvy and NZ’s relatively high prices for power?
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Prices for power are no higher since the companies were privatised. They made their biggest leap during the Klark regime.
    
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    August 22, 2018 9:57am
    - KevOB
      
      At least we are getting a winter rebate.
      
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      August 22, 2018 10:51am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        The winter rebate is a fuck sight less than the pension increase the Nats were going to give us.
        
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        August 22, 2018 11:26am
- wreck1080
  
  Not really. National were quite corrupt in the privatisation. For example, I applied to buy $60k of genesis shares. I was denied, and National only allowed me to purchase $8k of shares.
  
  But, John Key allowed his foreign friends to buy up to 1 million dollars of shares…
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10315411/Asset-sale-screwed-NZ-buyers
  
  I’ve paid taxes all my life in NZ, this american has made no contribution nor does he have any allegiance to NZ. But, John Key set this offer up so that hard working NZ’ers were only entitled to the scraps .
  
  I don’t know why national did not get destroyed over this.
  
  Yet, John Key sets this up allowing them to purchase $1.6 million dollars of shares, and giving them an immediate profit of $300k. Their profit was more than the shares allocated to me!
  
  Disgusting.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:55am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Pretty hard not to be profitable when you operate as a monopoly or part of a cartel. Their whole rort is make a profit – raise valuation of assets on basis of profit, use raised asset valuation as justification for raising prices again (and increasing profit)… rinse repeat. They can set the price at almost any level they like and govt will go along with it as they get such a huge cut. With long since paid off hydro NZ should have some of cheapest power in world, but we are paying substantially more than the US state median (NZD$0.18) for residential electricity.
  
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  August 22, 2018 1:36pm
EAD_TWO

Powerful tweet

https://mobile.twitter.com/RationalGent1/status/1031624893107003392

This is my grandfather. He bombed the shit out of Dresden so that we could get sent to jail for complaining about rape gangs/terror attacks.

He bombed the shit out of Berlin so that the British government would stand by, allowing my farm in South Africa to get taken from me.

Great below the line comments to
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August 22, 2018 9:34am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, Rational Gent ?
  
  T DS predictable stuff here ,
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/RationalGent1
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:38am
- Psycho Milt
  
  He bombed the shit out of Dresden so that…
  
  …Bomber Harris could get to feel like his strategic bomber fleet still had something to contribute to the war effort. Funny thing to take pride in.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:21am
  - DigNap15
    
    To repay Hitler for bombing London and Coventry, and to try to convince Germany to surrender, and to help the Russian army, as Dresden was a major supply base. And to try to help finish the war quicker to save allied soldiers lives.
    
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    August 22, 2018 11:13am
    - stephieboy
      
      DigNap15, and an important military communications centre.
      
      The deaths and casualties from the bombing have been grossly overstated.
      
      http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/post-war-myths-the-logic-behind-the-destruction-of-dresden-a-607524.html
      
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      August 22, 2018 12:22pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        In a war, every city can be called an important military centre. No significant military benefit was gained from the bombing of Dresden, and the fact it was area-bombed with a mixture of incendiaries and high explosive says that the civilian population was the target.
        
        The deaths and casualties from the bombing have been grossly overstated.
        
        Deaths and casualties from military actions have been grossly overstated on many occasions. It’s certainly true that in Dresden only a few tens of thousands of civilians were deliberately murdered by Bomber Command, rather than the hundred thousand David Irving came up with, but what kind of a sick fuck would think that makes a difference?
        
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        August 22, 2018 12:45pm
      - realityczech
        
        Milt, so your reckon Irving inflates numbers of dead?
        
        You must be a denier.
        
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        August 22, 2018 6:37pm
  - Longknives
    
    Milt and her good friend Stephieboy clearly know nothing of History.
    Dresden was a bloodbath- But an absolutely necessary one…
    
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    August 22, 2018 6:28pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
      It must be true – renowned authority “Longknives” has spoken!
      
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      August 22, 2018 7:13pm
Fletch

It looks like Australia isn’t buying into the climate narrative either.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull on Monday stripped requirements for reducing greenhouse emissions from his centrepiece energy policy in the face of political opposition, although the country remains a signatory to the Paris Agreement.

While stopping short of following the lead of US President Donald Trump and withdrawing from the global climate accord, Australia removed requirements from its National Energy Guarantee plan that would have mandated that greenhouse emissions from its power industry decrease by 26 percent from 2005 levels by 2030.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world/australia-weakens-commitment-to-climate-accord-after-government-fractures-2860451.html

Good for them. No chance of NZ withdrawing, what with our current crop of lefties/greenies in control.
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August 22, 2018 9:36am
- Psycho Milt
  
  It looks like Australia isn’t buying into the climate narrative either.
  
  No, it just looks like Turnbull is desperate to prevent the scummier elements of his wildly-misnamed “Liberal” Party dropping him in favour of “Gauleiter” Dutton and this is a bone he’s thrown them.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:19am
Keeping Stock

Very sad to hear of the sudden death of Greg Boyed from TVNZ at the age of just 48. The Herald story refers to a struggle with depression, so it doesm’t take too much imagination to put two and two together.

Depression is an absolute bastard. It’s insidious, it drains you of your sense of self-worth, and after my crash late last year, I did little else than sleep for a month. I am glad to have come out the other end, and am thankful for the support I received.

I extend my most sincere condolences to Greg Boyed’s wife, children and his wider family at this devastating time.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12111311
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August 22, 2018 9:41am
- Philview
  
  Yes very sad news. A likeable news reader.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:48am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    One who could say President Trump without a sneer or inference; got that Barry et al?
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:36pm
- Harkman
  
  Just heard this on Sainsbury, in Switzerland. I think he has young children to a musician chick. He did go out with Amanda Giles for years.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:49am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Keep fighting those black dogs KS.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:55am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Cheers Shaun. Between counselling and medication I’m in a far better place, and ready to get back to work part-time in a fortnight.
    
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    August 22, 2018 10:17am
- Paul Marsden
  
  Tragic. A dear friend of mine and well known doctor, recently took her own life. Today would have been her birthday. Mental illness doesn’t discriminate and can strike anyone. This news about Greg has made me weep again.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Sleep is important .
  My mother couldn’t sleep (naturally) in her depressive periods and was given sleeping medication which seemed to make her sleepy through the day, and leave her full of worries later at night….but that was the 1960s, when medication/treatment for depression was pretty hopeless.
  
  I read a bit about depression when I was in my 20s, trying to make sense of what struck my mother.
  
  A. Alvarez’s The Savage God: A study of suicide was interesting.
  
  Last year I read William Styron Darkness visible. It is an account of this writer’s suicide attempt.. and the frightening thing (to him) was how suddenly the transformation was from being able to manage his life (he knew all his triggers) to being suicidal.
  
  Don’t know if any of this is relevant/helps, but it is the reason I never offer personal abuse to anyone.
  None of us knows what is the state of mind of other folks.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:26am
- Longknives
  
  ‘Insidious’ is being kind to it Keeping Stock!
  
  I suffered a very nasty Trauma in my life about ten years ago. I went into a dreadful Anxiety based Depression where I didn’t/couldn’t leave bed for almost a month..
  I lost 16kg in that time!
  The thing that saved me was my friends- I will never forget what they did for me. (Amongst other things they dragged me out to a Rock Concert- made me feel alive again)
  So if anyone you know if suffering- For God’s Sake take them out for a quiet beer, concert, footy game, anything! It could save their life…
  
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  August 22, 2018 11:27am
  - Komata
    
    Lk: But if your social circle is very small, all you have left is a ‘Stiff upper lip’ and prayer. Sometimes it works (I survived), but then again, sadly, sometimes it doesn’t…The inclination is always there, always lurking.
    
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    August 22, 2018 7:17pm
sooty

The Bag Lady is running out of money and trying to scrape together pennies by scrapping the civil servants bonuses. That’ll help!
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August 22, 2018 9:51am
- Harkman
  
  What until the recession comes, she’ll blame “the rich” for causing her recession and then put up taxes.
  
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  August 22, 2018 9:57am
  - KevOB
    
    The COL and its denizens were warned well before the election that they would regret taking the reins of govt this time. The impending correction was obvious. Too much money had been created out of thin air and the spending of that had gotten out of hand. It has happened before. Greed begets greed begets overextension begets wipeout. NZ is not alone in the world.
    
    Now the COL has to manage what they do not understand.
    
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    August 22, 2018 11:00am
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes but National were steering us in the right direction. We had got into surplus and were just going to start paying down our debt.
      Business confidence and jobs were high.
      Now its all going to go to the dogs.
      Jacinda and Winston and the lefties are causing it.
      
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      August 22, 2018 11:16am
      - Richard
        
        It is impressive how fast the COL have managed to put the economy in reverse.
        
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        August 22, 2018 12:09pm
      - KevOB
        
        They are making it a lot worse being enthusiastic amateur communists with as much collective nous as greenfly.
        
        National could deal with global economics not being ideology bound or painfully ignorant.
        
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        August 22, 2018 12:46pm
- Philview
  
  I was just thinking along the same lines. This seems like a move to get ideologically suitable people into those top roles. High Performers will go elsewhere. I noted in the Stuff comments Lefties were demanding these anti bonus measures be implemented in the private sector as well. I have managed to get through life not worrying about people earning more money than me. This Government is unleashing tall poppy syndrome on steroids and it isn’t going to end well.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:15am
Viking2

Greg Boyd has died.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=12111311

One of the better TV presenters.
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August 22, 2018 10:12am
- wreck1080
  
  Tragic , and while on family holiday too!
  
  Too many people go this way.
  
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  August 22, 2018 10:43am
- Inandout
  
  Suffered from depression it was reported.
  
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  August 22, 2018 11:20am
wreck1080

Test…uhh, for some reason i can edit posts but not delete.
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August 22, 2018 10:53am
- RalphT
  
  Yes, I’ve had that problem for a couple of weeks.
  
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  August 22, 2018 11:20am
Longknives

Duncan Garner should have torn shreds off that loser, then immediately terminated the interview this morning.
He seemed to just sit there quietly and take the abuse? (I’ve only seen the highlights)
Tip for you Duncan- Gang Members are Bullys and their whole image is based around intimidation.
If you stand up to them and give it back they tend to crumble like the pathetic cowards they are.
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August 22, 2018 11:20am
- Inandout
  
  I think Garner may have been wise to let the Maori/Irish guy spew forth and reveal his true self. If anyone has been on a committee with a Maori on board this sort of behaviour is not unknown; just shouting and trying to get their own way.
  
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  August 22, 2018 11:23am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, feed the bugger rope to hang himself.
    
    After a display like that nobody in their right mind would fall for that “gangs are just cultural organisations” crap.
    
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    August 22, 2018 1:10pm
  - Paulus
    
    I was once on a Jury where without doubt the Maori physical offender was guilty – cameras showed him – we had two Maori on the Jury and immediately said in deliberation in the Jury room “Not Guilty” and did not take part any more.
    You can guess the result.
    
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    August 22, 2018 2:00pm
    - Longknives
      
      ‘Bro look after Bros’ Paulus!
      
      I’ve seen such things too many times to mention…
      
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      August 22, 2018 4:24pm
      - Longknives
        
        Just wait until Murder and Rape trials are held on the Marae…
        
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        August 22, 2018 4:24pm
- KevinH
  
  Duncan Garner handled the interview with Denis O’Reilly well this morning on TV3’s AM show.
  O’Reilly took Duncan to task for calling the gang members scumbags, however Duncan didn’t back away from his comments and continued to reiterate them.
  To his credit Duncan allowed O’Reilly to speak his mind sensing perhaps that O’Reilly was addressing a larger audience watching the show.
  O’Reilly cautioned all parties involved in the shooting to settle down and to consider the safety of families.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:08pm
Philview

I have scanned the online newspapers this morning. I note that the Otago Daily Times has managed to run another editorial on Jacinda and the baby. I know editors must sit there scratching their heads on what to write but would be nice if the media could move on from this topic and start questioning some of her other decisions or lack of.

https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/equal-choices-all-parents
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August 22, 2018 11:24am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  No cats up trees in all of Otago today.
  Phew
  
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  August 22, 2018 11:38am
Shaun the Sheep

That comment is disgusting
A report from me.
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August 22, 2018 11:39am
- Richard
  
  Agreed.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:03pm
- realityczech
  
  Report all you like. Did you feel bad about Hitler topping himself?
  
  He was a vile man and the world is better off without him. He made a living spreading lies and hate. Fuck him. You are an amoral virtue signalling sleaze bag and I feel great that I do not meet with your approval.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:05pm
  - Nookin
    
    You are comparing Greg Boyed with Hitler?
    I doubt whether you could sink any lower into the cesspit than your last two posts.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:08pm
    - realityczech
      
      No Hitler did some good. That lying piece of shit did no good.
      
      Go report me if it makes you feel virtuous. I will not pretend I am the slightest bit worried about the scumbag journalist dying.
      
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      August 22, 2018 12:11pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Hitler did some good? Apart from being a useless Commander in Chief, what else?
      
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      August 22, 2018 12:14pm
  - Richard
    
    Go have some lunch mate. Clearly your blood sugar is running low and making you a bit….unstable.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:12pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I do not need your permission to report.
    Thank you for your reflection on my character, but no one has gone to extreme lengths to stop me spending time with my children.
    You may wish to spend your time pondering your own attitudes and responses to those around you.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:13pm
    - realityczech
      
      Those around me are largely ignorant insincere bigots. If I met with the approval of most of them I would do the decent thing and top myself.
      
      Your invitation to indulge in your self serving herd-think is declined for that reason.
      
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      August 22, 2018 12:16pm
Richard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/106404628/striking-teachers-have-lost-the-war-even-if-they-win-a-small-pay-battle

Teacher Unions have failed teachers, kids and parents.
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August 22, 2018 12:02pm
- sooty
  
  They ain’t getting anything, the Bag Lady has run out of money. She’s tea bagging all the perks and pay rises to make ends meet.
  
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  August 22, 2018 3:00pm
realityczech

The fake news media is running a hate campaign against dairy farmers. They are doing this on behalf of the government to change the thinking of the sheeple, before the government does something. Just wait and see.

No wonder these scumbags can’t live with themselves.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/106459334/milking-it-the-price-of-dairy-should-not-be-dirty-rivers
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August 22, 2018 12:10pm
- KevOB
  
  We need to expose their PR team.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:49pm
  - realityczech
    
    Stuff have a history of running fake news stories prior to new laws being introduced. You can get a pretty good idea of what is coming by watching what they choose to make up stories about.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:55pm
    - KevOB
      
      But who’s feeding them?
      
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      August 22, 2018 4:31pm
Keeping Stock

Piss off realityczech. That is a truly disgusting comment which I too have reported.
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August 22, 2018 12:15pm
- realityczech
  
  YesStock you have a history of being a sleaze. You might think it is okay to pretend to be sorry about the death of a man who sat there and lied to people night after night on the TV, but I have some morals and do not.
  
  Lefty journalists are evil vile people and I feel nothing for them.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:19pm
waikatogirl

Instead of finding a child minder, a teacher who took her baby into the classroom while teaching at a school in Wanganui has been told by angry parents that it is a distraction to her students and not appropriate.
Well done those parents. The classroom is not an alternative childcare centre. Workplaces are not always a satisfactory or appropriate place for young children.
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August 22, 2018 12:15pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Obviously the teacher:pupil ratio at that school isn’t too high if the classroom can accommodate an additional ‘special needs’ child so I assume that teacher is not currently striking because of her great workload.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:56pm
- VicParking
  
  Same for the Prime Minister. Bet baby and partner fly to Nauru.
  
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  August 22, 2018 3:31pm
Nookin

Looks like Kea is in for another enforced holiday. Latest comments were beneath contempt.
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August 22, 2018 12:19pm
- realityczech
  
  I am flattered that vermin like you do not approve. I am well aware that sleazy creeps will use my comment as a virtue signalling opportunity. I am untroubled by banning and see it as a badge of honour worn with pride.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:23pm
  - Nookin
    
    Sick fuck.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:32pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      That comment is a new low even for you RC; I have reported your comment with satisfaction.
      
      You’re welcome.
      
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      August 22, 2018 1:42pm
    - realityczech
      
      I would expect nothing else from sludge like you. You disgust me.
      
      I wonder if we would be seeing this fake and contrived display of outrage if he had spread propaganda and lies about Jews, rather than Trump/white people etc ?
      
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      August 22, 2018 2:58pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Your ‘badge of honour worn with pride’ might be the reason someone went to extreme lengths to distance your children from you.
    Almost every comment you make demonstrates the contempt you hold for other people.
    Please don’t feel you have to wait for a ban to take your appalling attitude elsewhere.
    
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    August 22, 2018 12:46pm
    - realityczech
      
      Delighted once again that I do not meet with the approval of vermin like you. It is very flattering given your proven record of bigotry and insincerity.
      
      But carry on pretending to care about the death of lying hate monger who did enormous harm to others with his distorted fake news.
      
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      August 22, 2018 12:50pm
Inandout

She is gone. I had to use Newsweek because CNN and the like ignore the story.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-israa-al-ghomgham-female-saudi-activist-may-be-beheaded-after-death-1083499

Stephie’s camel rooters again.
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August 22, 2018 12:30pm
- realityczech
  
  The Saudi regime is propped up by the USA. Israel allows it because the Saudis hate Iran same as they do. It is a Jew problem not a Muslim one.
  
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  August 22, 2018 12:44pm
Fletch

A bunch of Antifa thugs beat up a Democrat for carrying an American flag…

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/antifa-members-beat-leftist-protester-holding-american-flag/
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August 22, 2018 12:45pm
- Komata
  
  Sadly, the irony would be lost on the victim.
  
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  August 22, 2018 7:23pm
lifesgood

What’s the betting Genter’s kid is called Rangi or Hoani or Wiremu?
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August 22, 2018 12:59pm
- skyblue
  
  Who in their right name would name a child after a primitive race. Oh yes a yanky greenie.
  
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  August 22, 2018 1:41pm
- Longknives
  
  Or maybe that traditional Maori name ‘Hayze’??
  
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  August 22, 2018 4:22pm
- KevOB
  
  John & William are European names. Rangi used to be some Maori bloke we all knew.
  
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  August 22, 2018 4:35pm
rangitoto

Get that wall built fast Donald.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/21/mollie-tibbetts-murder-suspect-cristhian-rivera-originally-from-mexico-living-in-us-illegally.html
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August 22, 2018 1:31pm
- Longknives
  
  Watch the Left Wing Media bury this story real quick…
  
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  August 22, 2018 4:22pm
softail 1450

Haven’t seen the photos of Genter biking home with bubba yet, maybe on the 6pm news.
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August 22, 2018 1:37pm
- sooty
  
  Maybe the bikes been stolen from outside the hospital. Never mind she at least another dozen of all shapes and sizes, she has more bikes than knickers!
  
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  August 22, 2018 2:56pm
  - VicParking
    
    My understanding is in younger days she was a knicker less bike
    
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    August 22, 2018 3:38pm
graham

“Mother of murdered Christchurch 3-year-old slams Government’s criminal justice summit”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106470793/mother-of-murdered-christchurch-3yearold-slams-governments-criminal-justice-summit

The mother of a murdered three-year-old girl said she could not hold back the tears after hearing about a Māori woman saying Europeans could not know what it was like to be victims of crime at the Government’s criminal justice summit.

She said another victim – whose sister was murdered – was told she was “white and privileged” – both messages leaving Crothall in tears and her blood boiling on day one of the summit in Porirua on Tuesday.

“This is a horrendous summit for victims – we’ve been re-victimised. There’s been a lot of racist comments,” she told the 500-odd gathered experts, academics and advocates, victims, ex-prisoners and frontline justice workers.

Very sad
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August 22, 2018 1:50pm
- Longknives
  
  This is then biggest story of the day!
  Kudos to this woman- I fucking guarantee she will be threatened for speaking out…
  
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  August 22, 2018 4:49pm
- graham
  
  Fascinated to know just WHY someone would downtick this?
  
  Come on, don’t hold back, let us know what you object to in this story.
  
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  August 22, 2018 6:40pm
Swifty

How did Kea lose it this time? Did he attack Greg Boyed?
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August 22, 2018 2:30pm
- realityczech
  
  I think she told the truth about a propagandist and spreader of fake news.
  
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  August 22, 2018 3:00pm
sooty

Isn’t it great that the supermarkets are providing shopping baskets to take your shopping home in instead of plastic bags!
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August 22, 2018 2:48pm
Fletch

Left-wing shits (who advocate the killing of ICE agents) don’t like it when actually confronted in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTnb03ZHdkY
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August 22, 2018 3:12pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  That is just sweet, calling him out
  
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  August 22, 2018 4:22pm
stinkypete

watch winston’s face while Julie Bishop is talking

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/video-winston-peters-foils-julie-bishop-s-attempts-to-end-press-conference.html

one might suppose he has some cognitive issues but im sure there is another explanation that he cant sue us for
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August 22, 2018 4:02pm
- graham
  
  Well, well … amazing what Winston can get away with!
  
  Ms Bishop listed the Government’s policy priorities and finished with: “On that point the Deputy Prime Minister and I are leaving because he’s got a very important speech to make.”
  
  She tapped Mr Peters on the shoulder but he stayed put. She went as far as to joke “I’m trying to bump you off stage” but he waited to hear a question addressed to him.
  
  “She’s a female I’ve got to answer the question,” Mr Peters said.
  
  “Did you really just say that?” Ms Bishop asked.
  
  “I’ll look like a chauvinist,” Mr Peters said.
  
  Waiting for the howls of outrage from all the usual suspects … but somehow I suspect I’ll be waiting a while!
  
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  August 22, 2018 7:13pm
  - Longknives
    
    Can you imagine the howls of outrage if John Key had one that?
    
    Ali Mau would be screeching the house down!
    
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    August 22, 2018 7:23pm
Inandout

Does this happen in NZ too at FC?

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/flight-centre-accused-of-gouging-customers-with-markup-practice/news-story/c9b19f2f21245653ff1fb3c253e9bd3c
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August 22, 2018 4:22pm
realityczech

Ending the Debate on Auschwitz I’s “Gas Chamber”

“When Auschwitz was transformed into a museum after the war, the decision was taken to concentrate the history of the whole complex in one of its component parts. The infamous crematoria where the mass murders had taken place were ruins in Birkenau, two miles away. The committee felt that a crematorium was required at the end of the memorial journey, and crematorium I was reconstructed to speak of the history of the incinerators at Birkenau. This program of usurpation was rather detailed. A chimney, the ultimate symbol of Birkenau, was re-created; four hatched openings in the roof, as if for pouring Zyklon-B into the gas chamber below, were installed, and two of the three furnaces were rebuilt using original parts. There are no signs to explain these restitutions, they were not marked at the time, and the guides remain silent about it when they take visitors through this building that is presumed by the tourist to be the place where it happened.” – Robert van Pelt, The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial, (Indiana University Press, 2002, ISBN 978-0253340160), page 121.

Everything in the “gas chamber” at Auschwitz I: the ovens, the unattached chimney, and the “Zyklon-B insertion holes” in the ceiling are post-war additions. Everything.

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In 2015, the Auschwitz Museum website had once again “updated” their page on Auschwitz I to completely remove any reference to a “gas chamber,” although separate documentation they put out still claims that it was used as an “experimental gas chamber.”

http://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.com/2015/09/ending-debate-on-auschwitz-is-gas.html
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August 22, 2018 6:53pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  I hope you asked for your money back.
  
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  August 22, 2018 7:17pm
  - realityczech
    
    It seems no lie is too outrageous. I guess that can happen when you throw people in jail for telling the truth.
    
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    August 22, 2018 7:23pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  so let me get this straight……
  
  They had to build a so called “gas chamber” because none was present just so that they could show tourists…….
  
  I always ask normies to do the math on the Crematoria…..
  
  46 Crematoria each taking a super efficent 8 hours to cremate a body working around the clock for 3 years. No time for maintenance, repairs etc. due to German super-efficiency and we end up with 150k.
  
  Where did the rest of the alleged dead go? (just don’t dare use your brain and question this in 22 European States or you will face criminal charges even if you are a 93 year old frail grandmother ala Monika Schaefer)
  
  https://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/free-monika-schaefer-from-german-prison/#more-17239
  
  “It was real……..in my mind”
  
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  August 22, 2018 7:43pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    PRATT
    Point. Refuted. A. Thousand. Times.
    Not that I care to explain it, again, or Kea and EAdolf care to ignore the explanation, again.
    I am more interested in EAdolf’s explication of what he and his fellow ‘modern’ national socialists propose to do to solve the Jewish problem this time round
    
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    August 22, 2018 8:02pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Simples
      
      Treat them in our countries the way Christians, Africans and Palestinians are treated in Israel.
      
      #equality
      #Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
      
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      August 22, 2018 8:10pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Treat them in our countries the way Christians, Africans and Palestinians are treated in Israel.
        
        An approach you apparently believe could be hashtagged:
        
        #Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
        
        So, the question is, are you so stupid it’s comical, or just an anti-semite with a barrow to push? I’m thinking it’s the latter, but the former certainly can’t be ruled out.
        
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        August 22, 2018 8:44pm
Monique Watson

Everything launched outta Area 51 and Ohio tonight.

Three battleships deployed.
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