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holysheet

Q: Why aren’t Indians good at Football?
A: Because every time they get a Corner, they open a shop.
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August 19, 2018 8:04am
- realityczech
  
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  Hilarious. Got any Jewish jokes?
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:08am
  - realityczech
    
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    Q. Why aren’t Jews any good at the media they own?
    
    A. Because they lie and manipulate all the time.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:27am
    - VicParking
      
      That I thought would make them fit in with the MSM, especially in NZ. Still a down tick for the post
      
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      August 19, 2018 8:29am
      - realityczech
        
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        “till a down tick for the post”
        
        Of course. You are a brainwashed bigot.
        
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        August 19, 2018 8:31am
      - Crisplion
        
        Considering the fact that you’re a frequent commentator on a forum owned by a Jewish man, your ‘joke’ is not only vile, it’s also taking advantage of our host’s generosity. I suspect that he will take this on the chin rather than giving you the strike you deserve. I hope I’m wrong. You disgust me.
        
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        August 19, 2018 8:45am
      - realityczech
        
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        Your “disgust” is a compliment – coming from dross like you. Do the thousands of nasty comments about religions Jews hate “disgust” you also?
        
        David might self identify as Jewish, but that is not the view of Jews. For that he would need a Jewish mother, or rarely, convert. Few manage to endure the requirements of the latter.
        
        Unsurprisingly you are proven to be a moral and intellectual cripple.
        
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        August 19, 2018 8:52am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Crisplion
        Why are you only complaining about Kea’s Jewish ‘joke’, and not holysheet’s Indian ‘joke’?
        Are ‘jokes’ about Jews instrinsically worse?
        Did you laugh at one, but find the other one offensive?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:01am
      - realityczech
        
        Gee even milky gets it.
        
        Personally as an atheist I find them all a bit loopy. I can tolerate ordinary people in daily life regardless of their religion.
        
        The thing I can’t abide are hypocrites.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:12am
      - Crisplion
        
        Mikenmild,
        
        No I didn’t laugh at the Indian joke. It’s not in good taste, but at least it was a joke. Realityczech’s isn’t even a joke, it’s just a slur, which, judging by his other comments is par for the course. He doesn’t seem to have anything to offer but gratuitous insults.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:26am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Well you should have been happy with the downtick because I downticked and reported you as well.
        
        Your post was suitable for the idiots at the stranded
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:41am
      - itstricky
        
        Realityczech’s isn’t even a joke, it’s just a slur
        
        True
        
        He doesn’t seem to have anything to offer but gratuitous insults
        
        True
        
        But you’ve not referred to the comment immediately prior to it:
        
        Hilarious. Got any Jewish jokes?
        
        Which got 25 down ticks.
        
        If we’re happy to have Indian jokes, we should be happy to have Jewish jokes (not slurs).
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:41am
      - Crisplion
        
        A fair point Tricky. Personally I don’t make ethnic jokes and I rarely find them funny. But it’s one thing to make a poor taste joke and another to deliberately set out to offend. To be sure the line between the two is subjective, but in this case I think it’s fairly clear.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:12am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Yawn, another day of , da joos, da joos.
      
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      August 19, 2018 8:37am
      - realityczech
        
        Actually it was a response to a racist attack on Indians, before the daily rants about Muslims begin.
        
        Funny how you dross all hate the exact same people Jews hate. What an incredible coincidence. Wonder how that happened ?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:00am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Dry ur impotent tears of rage Deplorable Tinkerbell, I`m sure we`d all get a giggle out of, an Englishman, Irishman and a Scotsman joke without having a sook like your endless snivelling whataboutism and your racist obsession with Judaism.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:16am
      - realityczech
        
        The obsession here is with Muslims, so why not speak out about that? Seems you are all for religious persecution, just not for the self declared chosen-ones.
        
        Glad to be reported. It highlights the bigotry and double standards of those banging on about free speech on KB – when in fact they are opposed to it.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:35am
      - Jack5
        
        Diddums, ‼️?Kea?Realityczech‼️ did you wake up in a bad mood today? Poor birdie.
        
        Not enough hemp in the parrot seed?
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:33am
    - NewInoffensiveName
      
      Czech, that is not a Jewish joke. That is a comment regarding a small group of zillionaires controlling large chunks of the media who are also Jewish. In case you have not checked, this group is not statistically representative of Jews overall. For your edification, here is a Jewish joke:
      
      A Jewish father was very troubled by the way his son turned out and went to see his rabbi about it.
      
      “Rabbi, I brought him up in the faith, gave him a very expensive Bar Mitzvah and it cost me a fortune to educate him. Then he tells me last week, he’s decided to be a Christian. Rabbi, where did I go wrong?”
      
      The rabbi strokes his beard and says, “Funny you should come to me. I too, brought up my son as a boy of faith, sent him to university and it cost me a fortune and then one day he comes to me and tells me he wants to be a Christian.”
      
      “What did you do?” asked the man of the rabbi.
      
      “I turned to God for the answer,” replied the rabbi.
      
      “What did he say?” asked the man.
      
      He said, “Funny you should come to me…”
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:30am
      - realityczech
        
        Ninny, bullshit. If you really believed that you would be responding to the thousands of posts saying all Muslims are terrorists, not just a small percentage.
        
        The fact is you have been brainwashed with fables about Jewish persecution since birth. They have been persecuted, but by religious bigots like you. Not people like me.
        
        So go fuck yourself.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:40am
      - Dave Mann
        
        That’s really good! ! 😀 😀 😀
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:23am
    - realityczech
      
      This should be put in the comment guidelines. At least it is honest.
      
      ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡
      
      “Some of the posts this morning were just the usual anti jew bashing.
      I don’t know why it is so prevalent.
      And why it gets so nasty?
      
      Cant we just stick to bashing the COL, ferals and muslims?“
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:41pm
  - BananaLlama
    
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    Heard about the latest German Microwave? It seats 500 Jews.
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:00am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Worst Jewish jokes I ever heard. This one included, were told to me by….JEWS.
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:06pm
      - realityczech
        
        This is a tough crowd. They call Norman Finkelstein a Nazi.
        
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        August 19, 2018 1:43pm
- realityczech
  
  A lot of anti-Semites around this morning !
  
  Jewish Jokes
  
  From Groucho Marx to the Borscht Belt to Sarah Silverman, many of America’s best-known comedians have been Jewish. And so important is humor to Jewish culture that a landmark study on American Jewish identity in 2013 found that 42 percent of American Jews consider “having a good sense of humor” to be “an essential part of what being Jewish means.” (In contrast, only 19 percent said observing Jewish law was essential.)
  
  https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-jokes/
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:17am
  - Southern Raider
    
    You don’t get it do you.
    
    Humour is not a slur which you did.
    
    Also you could have come back with a counter joke about any other group on the globe and yet 100% of posters here knew it was always going to be about Jews and a slight against them
    
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    August 19, 2018 11:14am
    - realityczech
      
      Southern, so you always speak out about slights against Muslims? Nah didn’t think so.
      
      Before you go getting your side locks in a twist you might want to learn some history about the Christian bigots you have aligned with.
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:07pm
- Morrissey
  
  Soccer.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:30am
- Ed Snack
  
  Old, and unpleasant.
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:27am
- rightoverlabour
  
  To all those offended. From the beginning of time one tribe has made jokes about another. So we have spick, wog, dago, nigger, polack, pom, sheila, faggott, kraut, yank, honky, darkie, coolie Jewish, Left Footer, clutch plates, rooinekke, etc etc Jokes. (hoping to offend virtually EVERYONE in one hit -please add to the list for those I have missed out). Yes they may be offensive. But no-one HAS to take offence. In fact, all jokes are by their very nature offensive if we allow them to be, as the micky is being taken out of some person or group, or trait that a group is perceived to have, or some misfortune, or act of stupidity. Humour is a uniquely human trait that allows us to cope with serious issues, its an escape valve. When we get too precious about this we chip away at one thing that makes us human, the ability to laugh at ourselves.
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:59am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    You forgot midgets
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:54pm
- realityczech
  
  “Q: Why aren’t Indians good at Football?
  A: Because every time they get a Corner, they open a shop.”
  
  Q: What’s the definition of a queer Jew?
  A: Someone that likes girls more than money.
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:13pm
igm

Well, well, well, announcer cannot call weird looking haircut a golliwog cut. A boss cannot call someone of another race a “Little Injun”, without having 10 grand awarded against him/her by ERA.
Simple answer, don’t employ anyone other than a white kiwi male, don’t make comments on air, may upset some left-wing f/wit.
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August 19, 2018 8:05am
- itstricky
  
  Thanks for the tip. I’ll remember not to employ you, less anyone call you a ‘whining old coot’
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:29am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Wait till you see his haircut, too.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:02am
    - itstricky
      
      Whining old baldy coot?
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:08am
The Heat

Leftist Darwin Awards 2018

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/08/couple-who-believed-evil-is-make-believe-killed-by-islamic-state.amp.html
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August 19, 2018 8:08am
- realityczech
  
  Did you see how the article was “fact checked” against the extreme left fake news site Snopes?
  
  That is the one Google put at the top of their searches now – at least for anything political.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:13am
  - itstricky
    
    That is the one Google put at the top of their searches now – at least for anything political.
    
    Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh….they’re listening to you.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:40am
  - stephieboy
    
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    kea, why do you get things so wrong !,
    
    WHAT’S TRUE
    
    Isis militants claimed responsibility for the murders of Austin, Geoghegan, and two other tourists. Austin and Geoghegan had posted several times online about the generosity and kindness they encountered on their round-the-world cycling trip.
    
    WHAT’S FALSE
    
    There is no evidence Austin and Geoghegan were aware of any terrorist threat in Tajikistan, or that they travelled through that region particularly in order to vindicate their belief in human kindness. There is ample evidence that their trip was motivated by no more than a desire for adventure and life experience.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:58am
    - The Heat
      
      The article introduces that snopes straw man, for some bizzare reason.
      
      He wrote this:
      
      “I don’t buy it. Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own – it’s easier to dismiss an opinion as abhorrent than strive to understand it.”
      
      Naive and stupid and – from their various stances expressed – clearly wet. Consequences obvious.
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:19am
      - itstricky
        
        He wrote this
        
        What they are suggesting is that the context in which he published that was after experiencing other acts of kindness. In other words, there was nothing to suggest that the primary “mission” of their travels was to prove “evil is make believe”. That is something that was added after the fact to sensationalise the story.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:27am
      - The Heat
        
        I didn’t say it was.
        
        The article brings up the straw man of “mission”.
        
        I was drawing attention to their naivety which appears to be borne of a wet ideology.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:48am
      - itstricky
        
        I didn’t say it was.
        
        You posted ‘Leftist Darwin Awards’ therefore suggesting a cause & effect. So I think you did.
        
        The article brings up the straw man of “mission”.
        
        No, some site called ‘The Pluralist” did that:
        
        On 15 August, the Pluralist web site published an article that accurately described the details of couple’s trip and their deaths, but the headline they employed — “Millennial Couple Bikes Through ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ and Gets Killed” — and other phrasing may have created the impression that the couple’s deaths were infused with irony and served as a kind of allegorical warning about cosmopolitan, liberal naivety
        
        I was drawing attention to their naivety
        
        Sure. But no more than someone who goes outside in the sun, says “what a beautiful day today” and then gets sunburnt later in the day.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:12am
      - The Heat
        
        I think I know what my intent was.
        
        You appeared to have been distracted.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:19am
    - NewInoffensiveName
      
      Wilful blindness to obvious threats is a liberal disease. Adventure is a rafting trip. Pedalling through known ISIS territory is not.
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:32am
      - stephieboy
        
        Tjajistan, known ISIS territory?
        
        From google images a beautiful country still popular with backpackers and tourists.
        
        https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&biw=1161&bih=908&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=yZF4W5zaC8fn-AaLiKGoCg&q=Tajikistan%2C&oq=Tajikistan%2C&gs_l=img.12…0.0.0.23069.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0….0…1c..64.img..0.0.0….0.Cfc4HhvTcDA
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:37am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Unaware of any terrorist threat in Tajikistan?
      Vindicate their belief in human kindness?
      The cause has suffered a little setback.
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:51am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,you don’t have to be a tourist on a bicycle to be brutally murdered in Tajikistan,as in lots of countries where Islam “sunni style” is dominant you can be murdered by the state for a thousand different reasons .
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:10pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I get the impression SB has never travelled further than his own letterbox. Correct me if I am wrong.
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:57pm
- itstricky
  
  Leftist Darwin Awards 2018
  
  Did you only read the first two paragraphs?
  
  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/millenial-couple-isis-tajikistan/
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:41am
  - Inandout
    
    Unbelievable naivety, such people were likely Democrat voting wankers, finally discovering that ‘safe rooms’ don’t really exist.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:32am
- Harkman
  
  Yes we were discussing this on a US website last week. These two were real lefty hippie types, who thought everyone was good. Killed in a “stan” country, a very good rule to live by is don’t holiday in “stan” ending countries.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:16am
  - itstricky
    
    It’s an interesting psychological experiment to see how & when the conversation changes from ‘Muslims are evil killers’ to ‘hippies are stupid gullibles’
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:32am
    - itstricky
      
      Now that Inandout has contributed the same I think a lot of it comes down the intent and influence of the article. It’s that instinct to open your mouth and comment on something before you’ve fully digested what happened. And some sort of internal battle for distaste for one ‘group’ of people over another. Interesting.
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:45am
- Dave Mann
  
  @Heat: Yours was one of the most vile comments I have read here for a long time.
  
  Gloating over the pointless deaths of this unfortunate couple in order to make an unconnected point about your perception of ‘leftists’ is, in my view despicable.
  
  I thought KB readers were better than this. Why you got any upticks for such a disgusting comment is, frankly, beyond me. 🙁
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:42am
  - softail 1450
    
    Dave Mann, don’t get triggered by a few words on a blog,it’s just some other opinion and wont cause you any physical pain or cost you financially ,Chill…..
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:17pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    What on Earth gave you the idea that KB readers were better than this?
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:47pm
    - Dave Mann
      
      😀
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:48pm
Monique Watson

Caught a mole in the mole trap yesterday. Looked like a pussie.
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August 19, 2018 8:12am
- realityczech
  
  Quirky post of the day 🙂
  
  Oh and you might want to try this for your problem.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:33am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    What ?the mole or the trap?
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:49am
- Viking2
  
  Show us your pussie then. oops Mole.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:10am
Lee C

What, no tattoos, Monique?
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August 19, 2018 8:13am
G152

Why has green peace got enough cash to buy a flood of advertising on TV?
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August 19, 2018 8:14am
- Southern Raider
  
  Because of all the idiots on Queen St who give them money
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:18am
  - sooty
    
    Ladies of remmers?
    
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    August 19, 2018 11:28am
Lee C

Because they pay impressionable young people fuck-all to beg for cash for them?
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August 19, 2018 8:16am
- Paulus
  
  Try asking a Greenpeace collector where can you get a copy of their Balance Sheet and how much of your donation goes to Head Office in Amsterdam !
  Watch them stare and mutter a rude name against you.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:21am
  - igm
    
    Ask Russel Norman what his salary is, and how much NZ Greens give them indirectly from NZ taxpayers’ monies.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:23am
    - itstricky
      
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      Thank God there’s thousands of subjects for old coots to whine about, like what other people spent their salary on. Keeps them employed as well.
      
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      August 19, 2018 8:34am
      - igm
        
        I don’t care what salary someone earns, so long as they earn it, and don’t, as you do, leech it from taxpayers and ratepayers.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:09am
      - itstricky
        
        I don’t care what salary someone earns
        
        But you do care about what they spend it on
        
        and don’t, as you do, leech it from taxpayers and ratepayers
        
        How do you know that? I’m genuinely interested in having you explain to me how I account for my living expenses.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:28am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s not the easiest (draft) Financial Statement to read..
    https://storage.googleapis.com/p4-production-content/international/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DRAFT-Financial-Statements-GPI-2017.pdf
    But looks to me that they lost some money last year doing Foreign exchange conversions… but gained more from donations than previous year.
    
    Looks like they are worth NZ$104M. (60,242K Euro)
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:55am
- Southern Raider
  
  Lee that does raise a valid question.
  
  If New York City is looking to hit Uber with guaranteeing minimum wage and holiday pay for their drivers shouldn’t Greenpeace be caught by the same law for their collectors?
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:19am
realityczech

An example of fake news from Snopes, which Google is in partnership with as a fact checker (it’s really fake news)

• Search: Obama deported more people than any other president.

• Snopes claims it is not true and blames Trump for starting the rumour in 2016
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deported-more-people/

But here we have a story from 2014 about that very thing. It took me seconds to fact-check this and demonstrate Snopes is fake news.

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-president-obama-deported-more-immigrants-any-president-us-history/
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August 19, 2018 8:24am
- itstricky
  
  I know it’s silly to ask you, by why on (flat) earth do you think finding one random article, without out any sort of analysis, means any other one thing is false ?
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:47am
  - realityczech
    
    Tricky, It was one example. All of their fact checks are clearly bias and on the lunatic fringe of the left. It is a go to site for conspiracy theories.
    
    What is even more telling is looking at what they don’t choose to check.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:57am
    - itstricky
      
      their fact checks are clearly bias
      
      They’re probably Jews, right?
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:07am
      - realityczech
        
        Probably. They tend to lie a lot.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:50am
- DJ Ward
  
  The it’s true but if we fiddle and cherry pick data then it’s not true, method. Does someone with a politics degree run Snopes. I hear they make great left wing Primeministers as well.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:49am
  - itstricky
    
    Does someone with a politics degree run Snopes
    
    I’m sure you could find out, if you tried.
    
    https://www.snopes.com/methodology/
    https://www.snopes.com/disclosures/
    https://www.snopes.com/snopes-staff/
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:53am
  - Inandout
    
    There are alternatives, but I would do some of my own research rather than solely rely on Google owned type companies.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/fact_check_review/
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:42am
- stephieboy
  
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  Kea , omitted this,
  
  A mixture of fact and falsehood,
  
  WHAT’S TRUE
  Statistically, more people were deported from the U.S. during the administration of President Barack Obama than during that of any other president.
  
  WHAT’S FALSE
  That statistic was due in large part to a change in how “deportations” are defined rather than to an increase in the number of persons deported.
  
  Continuing “..that began under the Bush administration ” a fact which The Nation omitted. Most likely deliberately.
  
  LOL
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:52am
  - realityczech
    
    stupidboy, so did the black warlord throw out more darkies than any other president in US history?
    
    In your own words please… no links 🙂
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:03am
    - softail 1450
      
      R C,,,”No links” are you fucking joking ? without Google septicboys general knowledge is on equal terms with a well used toilet brush..
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:26pm
slightlyrighty

There is a propensity to believe ones own experiences over what you might read on the Internet.

Still, there must be some care taken as one could be come the political equivalent of a Flat Earther.
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August 19, 2018 8:37am
flipper

Peters, Ardern , the Redmelons and the rest of their wacky mob claim that capitalism has failed.
Is this where they would take us ?????????
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/18/newt-gingrich-democrats-have-no-idea-what-demons-are-unleashing.html
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August 19, 2018 8:39am
- waikatogirl
  
  New York Congressional Democratic candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to raise the USA’s corporate tax rate from 15% to 28%. The highly socialist candidate’s response to a request by Ben Shiparo to an offer to debate her policies was that she does not respond to Shiparo’s request like she does not respond to a “cat-call”. The invitation by Ben Shiparo to debate her policies was sweetened by an offer to pay $10,000 to her campaign, or to a charity.
  Dumb as a bag of hammers.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:04am
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“The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly in his Georgia hometown”

iJmmy Carter finishes his Saturday night dinner, salmon and broccoli casserole on a paper plate, flashes his famous toothy grin and calls playfully to his wife of 72 years, Rosalynn: “C’mon, kid.”

She laughs and takes his hand, and they walk carefully through a neighbor’s kitchen filled with 1976 campaign buttons, photos of world leaders and a couple of unopened cans of Billy Beer, then out the back door, where three Secret Service agents wait.

They do this just about every weekend in this tiny town where they were born – he almost 94 years ago, she almost 91. Dinner at their friend Jill Stuckey’s house, with plastic Solo cups of ice water and one glass each of bargain-brand chardonnay, then the half-mile walk home to the ranch house they built in 1961.

On this south Georgia summer evening, still close to 90 degrees, they dab their faces with a little plastic bottle of No Natz to repel the swirling clouds of tiny bugs. Then they catch each other’s hands again and start walking, the former president in jeans and clunky black shoes, the former first lady using a walking stick for the first time….

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=12109394&ref=twitter

Ah, the good old days contrasting starkly with the groping monster, thrice divorced groping buffoon presently in the Whitehouse.
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August 19, 2018 8:46am
- DJ Ward
  
  So a person who pardoned draft dodgers. A person who criticisers Israels treatment of Palestinians (every President does one thing right).
  
  But worst of all he created the Department of Education. Who would have thought creating a government run (child brain washing) entity would come from the left.
  
  Rated a below average President.
  The people only gave him one term. Speaks volumes.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:07am
  - stephieboy
    
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    DJ Ward, pardoning draft dodgers? Well, perhaps the former President might have pardoned the present draft dodger in the Whitehouse!
    
    LOL
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:11am
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      He didn’t dodge the draft though, he turned up and wasn’t wanted. What about Obama growing up Muslim? Apology tour and $150b for Iran, one would be suspicious.
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:37am
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        Obama , did not grow up as a Muslim, His father was brought up as one but never practised it nor instructed his son in the faith.
        
        FACT!
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:44am
      - GoVege
        
        That’s coz he was a chauvinist oink who got several young women pregnant and didn’t stick around to raise his kids.
        Obama was raised by his mum and her parents…all Caucasians.
        
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        August 19, 2018 6:34pm
- Fletch
  
  You mean the same Jimmy Carter who threw the Shah under the bus, allowing the Ayatollah Khomeini to come into power and thus the Islamic Revolution in Iran and the Jimmy Carter who couldn’t free the U.S hostages there? That Jimmy Carter? Iran was largely Westernized until that time. There are photos before the revolution of Iranians wearing normal western fashion. Afterwards it was all hijabs, burkas and oppression.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:08am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, untrue! Trump will reverse that invade Iran and restore the peacock throne and Western fashions?
    
    Um, no!
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:14am
    - Fletch
      
      Oh, by the way, Carter and Bill Clinton also enabled North Korea to get their hands on nukes, the way Obama did with Iran.
      
      https://nypost.com/2016/01/06/you-can-thank-jimmy-carter-and-bill-clinton-for-north-koreas-nukes/
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:17am
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch, and the successive Republicans administrations have successfully removed?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:31am
  - wiseowl
    
    The peanut farmer.
    And we have a yank who worked for him sitting on one of our councils.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:27am
- Inandout
  
  He was so ineffective as a President that sticking to peanut farming would have been better.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:44am
Left Right and Centre

NZ roads – when did every other farkwit decide they need their lights on during the middle of a sunny day ?
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August 19, 2018 8:56am
- Souvlaki
  
  It’s to wake up the P addled dross approaching u or fresh off the plane tourist you are there! https://youtu.be/n7ZSLeiiliE
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  It’s the idiots that run around with their lights on high-beam that are “farkwits”. Even in daylight high-beam can be blinding to oncoming drivers.
  Most newer model cars lights come on automatically along with ignition.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:07am
- itstricky
  
  NZ roads – when did every other farkwit decide they need their lights on during the middle of a sunny day ?
  
  It has absolutely no bearing on my life and I really couldn’t care less. If you think they are ‘farkwits’ I would politely suggest you decrease your coffee in take for this morning.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:11am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  On a four lane divided road just traffic.
  Hey – those lights on make a lot of difference.
  
  Same speed limit, most vehicles same speed.
  Just following each other.
  
  Ooooo – safety, safety – need some lights on !!
  Good one mate.
  
  Yes – that will stop all the crashes. I doubt it makes any shit of difference.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:06am
  - sam green
    
    But it annoys you – so there’s a thing.
    
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    August 19, 2018 7:26pm
- Viking2
  
  Been doing it for years on open raods. too many people don’t see.
  As an illustration I was coming up country from Feilding man years ago and cam across an accident on a long strait stretch of road. 3 fatalities.
  The day was really fine and sunny, the two cars were both white and the road had reasonably new chip seal which, in that light, looked almost white. One car had gone out to pass another and went hjead on onto the car they didn’t see.
  Two dead in that car which broke in half and one in the Holden. Mum of three kids who with her husband were returning from the ski fields.
  Have used my lights ever since.
  It is even worse now as most cars are white, silver or black and they blend into the surrounds.
  
  By the way Sweden made day lights compulsory years ago.
  
  Just makes sense to me.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:24am
  - kevn
    
    @Viking… Yes, the camo tarseal Grey colour of some cars is like a cloak of invisibility.
    Lights on works well for motorcycles.
    
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    August 19, 2018 11:07am
  - wiseowl
    
    Yeah but Sweden did it so you could see the immigrants.
    
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    August 19, 2018 11:09am
  - waikatogirl
    
    I was driving a country road on an overcast day. I thought I was the only car on the road until an oncoming black coloured car popped into the daylight from the darkness of a row of large trees. There are numerous reasons why cars are hard to see without their lights on. Better to be safe than sorry.
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:49pm
- Komata
  
  LRandS
  
  When: At least 50 years ago, and largely as a result of the arrival of Volvo cars (and to a lesser extent Saab’s although only because fewer were imported) from Sweden where such a requirement is mandatory and all motor vehicles have to have their lights on ‘automatically’ (at the point when the ignition is turned on) during the day for safety reasons.
  
  It’s not mandatory in NZ as you would know, but as more Kiwi’s adopt a ‘See and be seen’ attitude when driving, it has gradually become more commonplace.
  
  Thanks for asking.
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:49pm
kevn

@L R C… It is law for motorcycles. Why? ummm
Lots of Euro cars have daylight running lights permanently on. Why? ummm
So semi on the ball drivers might spot them whilst txting or eating or fiddling with the sounds or lighting a smoke or chatting or sleepy.
However I always wonder why drivers whiz along in the dark nearly invisible with just parklights on.
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August 19, 2018 9:04am
- Komata
  
  kevn
  
  Re: ‘However I always wonder why drivers whiz along in the dark nearly invisible with just parklights on’
  
  On that note, have you ever noticed that on dawn / dusk, or in foggy / sleet/ heavy weather conditions, it is invariably the dark cars that DON’T have any lights on, despite the circumstances indicating that they are the very ones which need it most because of their colour?
  
  This was pointed out to me many years ago and, although I was initially sceptical about the comment, observation tends to suggest that it is in fact the case. No idea why this should be so, but it is actually surprisingly common, to the extent that it is almost a ‘bettable’ occurance.
  
  Thought you might find it of interest.
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:01pm
  - Harlequin
    
    Greenies, saving electricity.
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:21pm
DigNap15

If you shoplift a lot…
You may have to pay it back

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108247

No punishment, just pay for the goods (maybe)
What a joke that judge is!
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August 19, 2018 9:06am
- DJ Ward
  
  The prisons are full (arbitrarily) of people on DV breaches. Like sending their kids birthday presents, accidentally bumping into the ex at the super market, or got invited around to see the kids only to be met at the door by mummy’s new boyfriend, or refusing to pay $4,000 to do a psych report (extortion) that is only being done to delay, delay, and delay visitation proceeding in the Femily Court.
  
  There’s no room in prisons for actual bad people, or actual prosecutable crimes.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:30am
stephieboy

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About time !

“Mueller Wants Papadopoulos to Go to Jail, Says He Harmed Russia Investigation”

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has recommended a prison sentence of up to six months for former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos, arguing in a court filing on Friday that he successfully sought to harm the Russia investigation in its critical early stages. Last October, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to charges of lying to the FBI regarding his contacts with Russian operatives during the Trump campaign — including at least one meeting where he was offered thousands of emails meant to damage Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Papadopoulos did not ultimately provide “substantial assistance” to investigators, however, and prosecutors insisted his crime — which consisted of “at least a dozen lies” — “was serious and caused damage to the government’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election…..”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/mueller-wants-papadopoulos-in-jail-citing-harm-to-probe.html
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August 19, 2018 9:08am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Mueller is the one that belongs in jail
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:03am
  - Inandout
    
    Mueller is being discredited slowly but surely. I doubt he will last another month. A despicable and biased man.
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:42am
realityczech

Deep State:

https://www.targetedjustice.com/uploads/1/1/6/3/116323993/binney-affidavit-2017-07-05-final.pdf

https://www.targetedjustice.com/
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August 19, 2018 9:09am
Maggy Wassilieff

Pete George on Online abuse

https://yournz.org/2018/08/19/misogyny-only-a-part-of-online-abuse-problem-and-sorry-isnt-enough/
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August 19, 2018 9:12am
- stephieboy
  
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  MW, your post on that link,
  
  “I’ve reposted your post on Kiwiblog…. still a habitat for anonymous abusers”
  
  Examples like being called a C… Stupidboy, septic boy, goat/ camel shagger etc, etc???
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:20am
  - GazzaW
    
    …….and that’s only the printable epithets steffie. Minor stuff compared to our thoughts about your posts.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:35am
    - stephieboy
      
      Gazza W, such as?
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:45am
      - GazzaW
        
        I have a clean record with DPF which I’m not about to stuff up to satisfy your curiosity steffie.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:49am
      - holysheet
        
        If you have to ask, then you confirm how dumb you really are.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:00am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        @ Gazza, mine’s been blotted, I’ll take one for the team…just send your suggestions here and I’ll hammer away…. @ Stephie, think about the worst that has been said about you on Kiwiblog in reply to your tens of thousands of crappy posts, I’ll better it. Just so you get the point. Your contributions are facile, immature and irrelevant. You have become the standing joke on this blog, it’s almost a competition to see who can ridicule and offend you the most. A new type of gladiator sport where you never win….
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:06pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    Yap, yap, another day chasing every ~~parked car~~ post, Stalker?
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Internet stalking is a form of abuse.
    Harassment is abuse.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:40am
    - stephieboy
      
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      MW, who has harrassed or stalked you like placed an abusive notice on a Balmoral church door?
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:47am
      - Swifty
        
        Did you find out the identity of that Martin Luther, Stiffy?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:48am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Call the police.
        That’s what I would do if any creep came lurking around my neck of the woods.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:51am
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        Swifty, definitely someone living in Auckland posting on KB like you.
        
        MW ,I have thought of that but the Police would want a suspect for the cowardly act.
        
        Not worth the trouble. Treated as a childish prank to be ignored
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:51am
      - Swifty
        
        Hmmmmm.
        
        A poster on Kiwiblog you say?
        
        Well that narrows it down.
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:53am
      - stephieboy
        
        A poster on KB and living in Auckland narrows it down further.
        
        Ideas?
        
        Do you live in Auckland?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:58am
      - Swifty
        
        Hey, I live in Auckland.
        
        Do you think it was me Stiffy?
        
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        August 19, 2018 9:59am
      - pentwig
        
        oh my, poor little didums stupidboy
        you allow yourself to abuse, defile, harass and attempt to bully commenters on KB, but when it is turned against you, you weep and whinge like a spoilt creep
        LOL
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:38am
      - Inandout
        
        Balmoral is a mere pork chop’s throw from Mt Roskillstan.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:46am
      - sooty
        
        After you calling me to kill my self, If I lived in Auckland I would have stood in the middle of the church service and informed the congregation of your deviance! You would not have been welcomed back by that church afterwards!
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:43am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        “MW ,I have thought of that but the Police would want a suspect for the cowardly act.”
        Is that what the Police told you?What has policing come to when a complainant has to supply their own suspects?
        
        “Not worth the trouble. Treated as a childish prank to be ignored”
        If you’re going to ignore it then do so.
        Bringing up the matter repeatedly as you do is hardly ignoring a childish prank.
        
        You may also reconsider your impulse to make every one of MWs comments a platform for your own struggle for relevance. She has interesting things to contribute.
        
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        August 19, 2018 1:24pm
  - Swifty
    
    Call yourself a whaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:47am
- DJ Ward
  
  Misogyny is just a Feminist buz word thrown at anybody that disagrees with the latest Feminist ideology. A person who wants men to be equal with women is a Misogynist pig, while a person who wants women to be equal with men, is a person of high moral standing.
  
  The issue with many of these individuals is that they spout hatred, or clearly bigoted Feminist ideology. They get responses negative to thier point of view and label it abuse. At no point do they question why thier point of view gets so much criticism. Men who have had thier lives destroyed by evil women, for good reason treat such views with the contempt they deserve.
  
  Would the comments be better described as anti Misandrist rather than the defined term Mysogynist, as many labeled as such, are not.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:56am
- Jack5
  
  It’s a side issue, and trivial compared with Pete George’s main topic, but I notice that at one point he writes “most people don’t hate on others.”
  
  The use of “on” after “hate” seems to be a new usage that is becoming common.
  
  Perhaps language change will come quicker as print gives way to online communication. No ranks of sub-editors and proof readers to be anchors against innovation.
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:11pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    hate on somebody or something seems very recent usage in NZ, but it appears to have been around for over 25 years… derives from Afro-American Hip-hop culture.
    https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2015/08/hate-on.html
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:32pm
secondcumming

Maybe we could leave Auckland’s housing shortage in the hands of the Police and the IRD to remedy?

The NZH reports that a Plumber with a Chinese sounding name, (Yu Ping Gong), declared less than $1000 in income over the last 5 years, while at the same time building a property portfolio in excess of $9 million.

The Chinese plumber denies tax evasion, but has agreed that eight of his Auckland houses can be sold in order to cut a deal with the police and the IRD.

Perhaps this government should look into the financial affairs of ALL Chinese living here, who have been granted residency in say the last 9 years. It may well assist a large number of ‘first home buyers’?
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August 19, 2018 9:18am
- secondcumming
  
  Forgot to mention, this plumber is the brother of Xiao Hua Gong (a.k.a Edward Gong), who was accused of running a $200 million pyramid scheme in China. He was arrested while living in Canada last December and charged with fraud and money laundering.
  
  Confucious say, “You can choose your friends, but you can’t choose your family”
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:59am
- DJ Ward
  
  Cutting a deal. Seems justice is on a downward slope.
  
  Profits of crime laws?
  
  Confiscate everything and give him his $1,000.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:00am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yea, good idea DJ.
    Wonder what sort of sentence the plumber and his brother might be facing if they’d been arrested in China?
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:18am
    - GoVege
      
      Some years ago a Kiwi was jailed in Hong Kong because his lifestyle did not tally with his recorded income.
      Apparently in HK they automatically arrest you if you are obviously making more than you declare.
      This must be a paradise for criminals.
      
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      August 19, 2018 11:34am
      - Jack5
        
        The police were run by the Brits, GoVege, and were straight, compared with most Asian cities.
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:52am
    - GoVege
      
      More primitive sexist customs taking place in NZ by immigrants.
      Brave young Tongan artist draws attention to the “white sheet” custom, where brides have to prove their virginity on their wedding night by bleeding on the bed sheets.
      Older (female) Tongan art curator defends sexist custom as “beautiful”.
      Human rights commission declines to comment.
      Who pays these idiots?
      Oh that’s right….us.
      
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      August 19, 2018 11:41am
      - GoVege
        
        Wonder if they still eat dog?
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:50pm
      - sam green
        
        And the Hindus are wondering if you still eat cow.
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:31pm
      - GoVege
        
        Eating cow is mean and uncalled for, Sam, but not in the same ballpark as eating man’s best friend.
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:09pm
sbk

Geez…Shouldn’t we now abandon the term “Social Media” and replace it with the term “Socialist Media” to describe them…to truely reflect what they actually are i.e leftist hell holes,who will sell your personal data to the highest bidder…

But it does makes me wonder,where are all the conservatively minded tech entrepreneurs.The way i see it,there is a real gap in the market and its growing incredibly fast…faster than Dorsey/Zuckerberg and co. can silence…opportunity abounds…and if i were younger.
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August 19, 2018 9:22am
- stephieboy
  
  sbk, “Socialist Media.”??
  
  You must be thinking about the US President’s tweets?
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:25am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Accusing Trump of being a socialist is a novel idea.
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:27pm
Monique Watson

What time is fucking Smoko.
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August 19, 2018 9:24am
- stephieboy
  
  Most usually between 10-11 am and 3.00- 4.00 pm .
  
  Varies from workplace to workplace and hours worked.. Including contract and collective agreement
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:28am
- waikatogirl
  
  What are we having Monique? ? ? ? ☕️ ?
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:30am
- DJ Ward
  
  I wish I had smoko as described.
  Len Brown had a few, apparently.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:05am
Morrissey

Rorter on the Ropes

“There’s 56 people in the National Party caucus; 55 are suspect.”—Winston Peters

https://thestandard.org.nz/the-week-of-limogate/
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August 19, 2018 9:26am
- Harkman
  
  Winston did it Morrissey. He got the info as Acting PM. He is trying to get rid of Bridges now in case he starts to grow into the role.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I thought you had been banned from The Standard, Morrissey.
  
  Do you recommend it?
  Should I start reading it?
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:45am
  - Morrissey
    
    I’m free to wander its corridors (metaphorically speaking!) at the moment, Maggy. I recommend you begin your Standard reading with the following epic stoush…..
    
    https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-clobbering-machine-aug-4-2013.html
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:49am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Love to Morrissey,
      I’ve put it onto my Must Read list before Death.
      But I’ve got to read these first:
      War and Peace
      The Bhagavad Gita
      The Complete Sagas of Icelanders. (5 vols.)
      Tokugawa Ieyasu (40 vols)
      Clarissa, or, the History of a Young Lady (7 vols)
      A Dance to the Music of Time (12 vols)
      
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      August 19, 2018 10:06am
      - sooty
        
        Wash your hair, aswell!
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:46am
      - Jack5
        
        Don’t forget 3000 pages of Proust, and all three good translations of War and Peace. and the whole of Eric Hobsbawm’s series of histories, and Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
        
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        August 19, 2018 11:50am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Oh shivers…
        
        I might have to live until my 70s!
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:13pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        I think you need to read them in their original languages as well, so if you don’t know them, I’d suggest learning them first. Then maybe you will have time to pop over to that gutter swill run by that fuck wit iprent or what ever his name is…
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:16pm
      - softail 1450
        
        M W, don’t forget “humanely euthanizing blow flies”, that would be a great read compared to morronisseys life story…..
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:41pm
      - Harkman
        
        Read ‘Beau Geste’ and ‘The Investment Biker’ Maggy two great reads.
        
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        August 19, 2018 2:01pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Good reading list there, Maggy.
        
        After you finish Vol. 12 of Mr. Powell’s opus, click on THIS….
        
        http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/
        
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        August 19, 2018 4:42pm
  - Psycho Milt
    
    Should I start reading it?
    
    It lost its female authors (again) earlier this year, after a back-end dispute I don’t know the details of. The authors are now all blokes and some of them are obnoxious authoritarians. Still worth reading to hear what left-wing bloggers are saying, but less so than it was a year ago.
    
    (Disclaimer: I was banned as part of that dispute earlier this year, so am not a completely disinterested party)
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:05am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Pardon me if I have led a sheltered life, but what is a back end dispute involving female authors?
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:07pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Something that’s nowhere near as much fun as it sounds, unfortunately
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:52pm
    - Morrissey
      
      I see that our old friend Te Reo Putake is back in favour there. He was banished for a time.
      
      It all resembles Chinese politics….
      
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      August 19, 2018 4:58pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        I suspect the departure of the female authors and the return of Te Reo Putake to favour aren’t completely unrelated.
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:51pm
Harkman

So yesterday I was leaving little kiddies soccer (a sibling’s child) and in the car park was what looked like a Tesla, on closer inspection it was a 2018 Model S or something. Given the hype, I would say that Jaguar and Lexus have far better looking cars on the market, then there is Bentley, Aston, Ferrari etc which are even better looking. Then there is BMW’s i8 which has a funky appeal too it. In short, I don’t like giving money to the crazies every time I fill up but Tesla is overhyped in the looks department.
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August 19, 2018 9:26am
- MCos
  
  It’s ’football’.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:31am
  - Harkman
    
    So’s the NFL
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:32am
    - Morrissey
      
      The NFL really means “NOT Football League”. The contempt for kickers is disgusting. To make it worse, not only does hardly anyone ever kick the ball, hardly anyone is allowed to even TOUCH it.
      
      https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.sport.rugby.union/oTTL_RaMiwk/RElUj1fV-UoJ;context-place=forum/rec.sport.rugby.union
      
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      August 19, 2018 9:42am
      - Morrissey
        
        Four meatheads who have never kicked a football have downticked my attack on the NOT Football League. Sad.
        
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        August 19, 2018 4:40pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Here, that usually means rugby or Australian Rules. In New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the U.S., Japan and many other countries, association football is almost always called “soccer.”
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:36am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And they are all using the wrong term, even those in Aotearoa
      
      (it stuck in the craw of my throat to use the A word)
      
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      August 19, 2018 10:02am
      - realityczech
        
        “(it stuck in the craw of my throat to use the A word)”
        
        I get the same thing with the fake country of Israel.
        
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        August 19, 2018 1:34pm
    - Happychappy
      
      So why is the body that controls the game call NZ Football Association and the majority of those that play the game call it football.
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:30pm
      - Morrissey
        
        So why is the body that controls the game call NZ Football Association
        
        That’s simply the result of a 2005 practical joke on his erstwhile Australian Rugby buddies by Australian soccer boss John “Possumhead” O’Neill. (Yes, the same sleazeball who stole the RWC co-hosting from us in 2003.) He changed the name of the Australian Soccer Federation to “Football Australia” just to annoy his old mates in the ARU.
        
        …and the majority of those that play the game call it football.
        
        No they don’t. Most—in fact nearly all— kids who play soccer call it soccer. The odd soccer tragic will correct them, but as soon as he or she moves out of earshot they go back to talking like everybody else.
        
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        August 19, 2018 4:38pm
      - Happychappy
        
        Your I talking a load of shit Morris minor it has always been called NZ Football Association, the only thing you have right children’s parents call it soccer. I have photos of Representive Teams I played in the 1950’s and 60′ and my College 1st Eleven and they all say Football not soccer.
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:45pm
- Inandout
  
  Oh but Hark, think of the status darling, and the many questions about the ‘lil ol lectric’.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:49am
  - Komata
    
    IaO
    
    All this while sitting at an electric ‘refuelling station’ outside Warehouse (or somesuch location) for two hours while waiting for your newly-purchased ‘all electric’ pride and joy to recharge itself.
    
    Virtue signalling would seem to have a price, although agreed, it WOULD give you a chance to answer such questions as ‘Why are you here, Does recharging take long and How do you keep warm on cold days when the battery is flat’, along with other ‘Matters of moment’…
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:21pm
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
NEW ZEALAND’S NONSENSE HOUSING ISSUE … (DONT LAUGH) DEADBEAT DUNEDIN OUT OF LAND !!! …

Dippie critical of Dunedin district plan … Otago Daily Times
h/t GF

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dippie-critical-dunedin-district-plan

A leading Otago developer has criticised Dunedin’s new district plan.

Allan Dippie said yesterday a lack of greenfields sites meant it would be a struggle to generate the property development the city needed.

Mr Dippie, who has developed residential subdivisions in areas including Wanaka and Mosgiel, said the city needed residential-zoned land for developers to build on. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Above posted at (with extensive further material) … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_18_august_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2285221 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/phil-lowe-welcomes-falling-house-prices/#comment-3168264 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/phil-lowe-welcomes-falling-house-prices/#comment-3168268 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/house-prices-falling-in-98-of-sydney-and-melbourne-suburbs/#comment-3168275 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/house-prices-falling-in-98-of-sydney-and-melbourne-suburbs/#comment-3168277
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August 19, 2018 9:27am
- Swifty
  
  Fap, fap, fap, faaaaaaaaap……..
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:51am
Gravelroad

Stuff is running a story about patched mongrel mobsters moving in to Motueka on motorbikes to advance their P manufacturing and marketing industry. P is very expensive in Motueka apparently so a lot of cash to be harvested there.
But the main worry for the locals is about the mongrels wearing their patched clothing in local shops.
So would it be safer all round if a group of people wearing matching walkshorts and T-shirts and driving electric cars moved in to make and sell P?
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August 19, 2018 9:28am
- GazzaW
  
  Motueka needs to be rid of them. Not good for the locals’ security and a very bad look for the gateway town to the Abel Tasman Park as we head into the tourism season. The closest serious police presence is 40 minutes away in Nelson if (when) the shit does hit the fan.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:11am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Impressions from a brief stay in Auckland recently:
  Two beat cops in Devonport about 7pm on Friday night – quaint and superfluous, Numerous scraps of humanity in Queen Street openly using P in daylight hours – nada.
  Hey Mike, I know you have the Dep Com cover-up to keep you busy, but ordinary New Zealanders have some law-enforcing they need done.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:23am
  - Inandout
    
    And boy isn’t Queen St a shit hole nowadays? Used to be a very upmarket area, pre beggars.
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:51am
    - Prince
      
      Careful.
      There are no beggars in socialist NZ.
      
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      August 19, 2018 11:00am
    - Longknives
      
      Who in their right mind would walk down Queen St after dark??
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:55pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Obviously not the cops.
        
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        August 19, 2018 2:16pm
Harkman

Was that Davidson blabbering on last night that they want to stop foreign water bottling? But Eugenie Sage signed off on one only recently, ha! Anyhow if they stop the water bottling, the water will flow out to sea and raise sea levels. Their entire policy process makes no sense.
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August 19, 2018 9:31am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Eugenie is meant to make a BIG announcement today.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:47am
  - kevn
    
    @MG… Banning something else?
    What a dead loss bunch the gunts are.
    
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    August 19, 2018 9:59am
  - GazzaW
    
    She has got permission from Winston then?
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:04am
    - sooty
      
      Nah, she’s leaving!
      
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      August 19, 2018 11:49am
      - softail 1450
        
        sooty, they got rid of any principles when they wouldn’t allow those two old white guys back into the fold after Mee Tooo resigned…
        
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        August 19, 2018 12:57pm
  - Komata
    
    Maggy@0947
    
    What, She’s resigning with immediate effect?
    
    Oh, so not THAT big then 🙁
    
    Oh well, one can but hope…
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:25pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Was that Davidson blabbering on last night that they want to stop foreign water bottling? But Eugenie Sage signed off on one only recently, ha!
  
  So, you didn’t pay any attention but you thought you’d comment on it anyway? Quelle surprise.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:06am
- The Heat
  
  The Greens seem to be making a habit of voting for something at odds with their (so-called) principles then saying “oh, but we don’t like it. Really we don’t!”
  
  As if that gets them off their hook.
  
  I guess some of their supporters are that stupid that they’ll fall for it.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:11am
  - RF
    
    You see them with their hands behind their backs with fingers crossed. It does not count if they do that.
    
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    August 19, 2018 10:33am
wiseowl

Don’t miss the Outsiders on ch 85 11am.

Turnbull could be rolled this week.
Sooner the better.
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August 19, 2018 9:32am
DigNap15

And now our Sunday Maori Vocabulary lesson bought to you by the English -Maori diction by Bruce Biggs assisted by Margaret Mutu

It Context. C O N T E X T
Oh sorry guys, I could not find in there.
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August 19, 2018 10:10am
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap15 , online Maori dictionary gives” horopaki “- surround.
  
  Or try “circumstances”,
  
  http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=circumstances
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:07am
- VicParking
  
  Horopaki
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:43pm
- MH
  
  “con”text is the preramble to the Tiriti of Waitangi,transliterrated by maori lawyers and Baron Cooke of Thorndon.
  
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  August 20, 2018 2:48pm
holysheet

Check this out

https://www.trademe.co.nz/cool-auctions

These lefties know their true value. Out of the three the liarbor member must know his starting value is overpriced.
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August 19, 2018 10:14am
- Inandout
  
  Why would I want to hang it out with Tamati?
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:53am
  - kevn
    
    @Iand O…. I wouldn’t ‘hangout’ with him if I was paid.
    
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    August 19, 2018 11:09am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      The bid is the sum he will pay you to ‘hang out’ with him and by ‘hanging out’ I mean ‘to be with’, nothing else hanging out
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:13pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I think it is a bid from his mother, cannot fathom why anyone else would want to spend any quality time with a weather man who cannot see which direction the wind is blowing.
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Crikey… they’ve got footpaths in Manuka St, Castlecliff now.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=12109626
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August 19, 2018 10:17am
- GoVege
  
  I see the grandma of the nation, resident in Wanganui, and spokeswoman for the riverperson, is getting loads of attention at the moment, including from that other dame.
  Maybe it’s consolation for the failure of her separist party to secure the nation’s beaches for one race.
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

“Green MP Julie Anne Genter cycles to hospital for an induction to ‘finally have this baby'”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12109673

Holey Bloody Moley!!

Hope all goes well.
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August 19, 2018 11:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Heck, who would down-tick good wishes for a Mum in labour?
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:04pm
  - Longknives
    
    I will happily admit I downticked you Maggy.
    I detest Julie Ann Genter- Just as she detests me! (and my infant son)
    We are White males you see- Perhaps you were out of the Country when this fucking vile woman was shrieking to a class of Schoolkids that ‘We need old white men to die’ etc etc
    The fact that she is brainwashing impressionable children with that racist, ageist garbage is utterly sick and revolting- Remember the fucking Nazis used to brainwash kid in classrooms with such pure hatred as well!
    Subsequently- I wish her child no ill but I utterly hate the repugnant woman and will not ‘celebrate’ the birth with you..
    I hope this explains my downtick!
    
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    August 19, 2018 4:27pm
  - MH
    
    it’s recyclable.
    
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    August 20, 2018 2:51pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Absolute bollocks and virtue signalling to the extreme
  
  Why should a mother be celebrated for putting her unborn baby at risk of severe damage at best, death at worst?
  
  The MSM are wetting themselves.
  
  One slip on a painted line, one car door open without looking, one car changes lane and dead baby
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:11pm
  - KevOB
    
    JAG has let carelessness overtake reason.
    
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    August 19, 2018 5:41pm
- Huevon
  
  Lol, I guess she’ll bike home with the new bub under one arm…..
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:46pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Surely her ‘husband’ will do the honourable thing and take them both back home via rickshaw…
    
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    August 19, 2018 2:26pm
- Lance
  
  Mrs Lance frequently comments that my criticisms of lefties is a bit OTT.
  I beg to differ usually.
  However.. Mrs Lance made the comment ” that JAG is a loonie (biking to the hospital to give birth)”.
  Lance smiles quietly to himself.
  
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  August 19, 2018 7:59pm
Captain Mainwaring

So JAG is at the hospital to be induced.
And she rode there on her bike, FFS.
Hope nobody lets the tyres down while she’s there.
Also hope she doesn’t get in the crap for stealing publicity off the Greens’ conference.
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August 19, 2018 11:35am
- sooty
  
  She had better have chained it up.
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:51am
  - srylands
    
    If she rides it home I will be impressed. ?BTW that is a lovely blue bike. I have seen many shots of it. Having been around a lot of bikes, I doubt this one gets much mileage. It is in pristine condition and the tyres look brand new.
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:08pm
    - sooty
      
      Tits have not even been worn of the tyres! Spends more time on the bike rack than on the road.
      A true road maggot she is!
      
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      August 19, 2018 4:44pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Stole nothing from the Greens conference, Shaw said she was ‘on brand’
  But he also said this:
  “I’m very proud to be a member of a party that supports that, and proud to be living in a country where two members of the country’s executive are able to have children as part of their job,” Shaw said.
  … as part of their job?
  Hmm. Don’t remember that being part of the job description. ‘Must carry and deliver baby’ would surely be illegal as a job requirement?
  
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  August 19, 2018 3:20pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Here’s Eugenie’s big announcement…
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/364420/greens-to-get-tougher-on-dumping-of-tyres-and-lithium-batteries

Looks like we are going to have pay more at the Dump/Recycling facility.

I suspect the banks down Kaiti Hill will just fill up quicker with car bodies, dead dogs, used disposal nappies, old washing machines, dead Tvs, etc
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August 19, 2018 11:39am
- stephieboy
  
  MW, it would be useful if you could provide cost-effective and neutral solutions?
  
  Ideas?
  
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  August 19, 2018 11:43am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    We have cheap and efficient landfill/recycling available here in Gisborne.
    
    Why some of the residents of my suburb fail to make use of this service and drive all the way up our hill and biff it over the bank is a mystery to me.
    
    Could it be that they just don’t give a stuff?
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:02pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Ever done an ethnicity survey on these dumpers Maggy?
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:18pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, the latter is probably true. Obviously needs more publicity and promotion.
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:19pm
    - Longknives
      
      Over in Mt Roskill/Little Mogadishu they just throw all their rubbish out onto the street..
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:53pm
      - Southern Raider
        
        No they let the goats eat it
        
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        August 19, 2018 1:13pm
      - realityczech
        
        Another racist slur from the Jewish bigot. What an arrogant hypocritical piece of human garbage. People like you are the real reason some folk are against Jews. You are vile.
        
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        August 19, 2018 1:16pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Wish we could dump politicians there as well….
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:00pm
- DigNap15
  
  We need some answers on the cost of recycling.
  Eg how much does it cost to make cardboard from receycled cardboard.
  What happened to the companies that set up to turn used tyres into road fill material.
  How much did sit cost to ship waste to China
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:09pm
  - stephieboy
    
    DifNap15 , China does not permit it anymore. Our rubbish is our problem.
    
    Not their’s.
    
    Simple.
    
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    August 19, 2018 12:21pm
    - DigNap15
      
      I know that, that’s why I said “How much did it cost” past tense!
      
      Our population is probably too small to support major recycling plants.
      
      Which is another reason I say we need 20 million good people here!
      
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      August 19, 2018 12:53pm
      - stephieboy
        
        DipNap15, 20 million here? For the rubbish, they generate?
        
        Solutions are already here ,
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11802845
        
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        August 19, 2018 4:14pm
      - KevOB
        
        Have a look at this. Edmonton in Canada Enerkem converts rubbish to fuel.This could be done here.
        https://enerkem.com/
        
        Population of Edmonton is under a million. The Rossi patents have expired and Enerkem have gone on from there.
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:36pm
- KevOB
  
  What about the subtext that a committee has been appointed to draft regulations that all tyres are going to made from sewn pigskin and the inners from left over sausage casings.
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:44pm
- Southern Raider
  
  So on one hand polices to get everyone into electric cars and on the other hand policies to hit people who own electric cars with massive costs in ten years time when the batteries are dead
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:12pm
- Jack5
  
  What to do with the old electric-car batteries that will become a big problem, starting in a decade or so?
  
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  August 19, 2018 3:52pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Lithium batteries burn with a beautiful magenta flame.
  
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  August 19, 2018 4:30pm
  - KevOB
    
    Bye bye green. Magenta is a super absorbent.
    
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    August 19, 2018 5:15pm
sooty

Just take them around to your place.
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August 19, 2018 11:52am
emmess

What an idiot Julie Ann Genter is.
Putting her unborn child’s life in danger for the sake of virtue signalling.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106388432/green-mp-julie-anne-genter-bikes-to-hospital-to-be-induced
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August 19, 2018 12:04pm
- Longknives
  
  You think she really rode her bike all the way to Hospital?
  It’s another Labour/Green virtue-signalling publicity stunt…
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:51pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    No mention of the sperm donor following along on its own bicycle with the baby bag (hemp, of course) over its shoulder. Or is this delivery going to be a solo effort.
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:35pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I take that back.
      Evidently parents-to-be cycled as there was no room for them and the support crew in the car.
      
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      August 19, 2018 3:23pm
Jack5

Have some nasty comments early in the General Debate thread been removed, or am I hallucinating?
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August 19, 2018 12:05pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Don’t know, mine are still there (so far). I know DPF is now just deleting offensive stuff with out necessarily issuing strikes unless it’s very bad.
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:07pm
- DigNap15
  
  Some of the posts this morning were just the usual anti jew bashing.
  I don’t know why it is so prevalent.
  And why it gets so nasty?
  
  Cant we just stick to bashing the COL, ferals and muslims?
  
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  August 19, 2018 12:12pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Because of attitudes like yours, every race has good and bad people and if someone spoke about your children like you talk about Maori or Muslims you would be highly offended.
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:41pm
    - DigNap15
      
      When did I speak about Maori?
      You don’t know about my children!
      
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      August 19, 2018 3:12pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        And, luckily, your children don’t know about you.
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:42pm
DigNap15

NZ is full of hills and valleys, we should just go back to the old system using landfills.
Buy some properties and fill them up in a hundred years you have some nice flat land fro recreation or farming.
It would be much cheaper than sorting out rubbish and all the different wheelie bins etc etc.
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August 19, 2018 12:11pm
Longknives

Everything the Greens do or say is a deception, a fraud or a lie.
I’m waiting for someone to call Genter on this rather fishy ‘I rode my bike to Hospital’ publicity stunt…
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August 19, 2018 12:29pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Fishy, if it smells like a fish and tastes like a fish, must be a cunt. Wonder if Jacinda is going to be jealous? My BayBeeee can recite Carl Marx,,…. So, what MY BAYBEEE chains its self to trees at night..
  
  FFS how about worrying about ruining the cuntry.
  
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  August 19, 2018 4:28pm
  - sooty
    
    The piss poor churnilist ask the question “How you getting home”?
    And the other question “Are you putting it in one of them plastic capsule”?
    No that would require using their brain for something other than sitting on!
    
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    August 19, 2018 4:39pm
Manolo

Nothing will stop Mueller:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402478-white-house-counsel-has-spent-30-hours-sharing-detailed-accounts-with
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August 19, 2018 12:51pm
Chuck Bird

This is what more countries should do.

After refusing a handshake, a Muslim couple was denied Swiss citizenship

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/106387246/after-refusing-a-handshake-a-muslim-couple-was-denied-swiss-citizenship
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August 19, 2018 1:20pm
- realityczech
  
  They should do the same with religious Jews who refuse to touch, or even sit next to, gentile women. (Its because they live in a state of perpetual filth)
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:54pm
  - DigNap15
    
    What makes you say that?
    
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    August 19, 2018 3:10pm
    - realityczech
      
      Don’t be a wanker Dingbat. It has been going on for years. It is NOT unusual at all.
      
      Here is a recent example from those “Nazi” at The Times of Israel.
      
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/flight-delayed-over-ultra-orthodox-mens-refusal-to-sit-next-to-women/
      
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      August 19, 2018 4:25pm
      - GoVege
        
        Yes RC, We know some of those orthodox dudes are tossers.
        But compared to what many Muslims get up to, they are practically saints….
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:26pm
- DigNap15
  
  They should do the handshake as soon as they get to the airport!
  Then send them right back!
  
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  August 19, 2018 3:09pm
realityczech

✡✡✡”Some of the posts this morning were just the usual anti jew bashing.
I don’t know why it is so prevalent.
And why it gets so nasty?

Cant we just stick to bashing the COL, ferals and muslims?“✡✡✡

LOL 🙂

A glimpse inside the mind of a religious bigot. At least he wears his hypocrisy on his sleeve.
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August 19, 2018 1:38pm
- Swifty
  
  Kea, you are bigot and human filth.
  
  Isn’t that how it goes? 🙂
  
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  August 19, 2018 1:49pm
  - realityczech
    
    Thanks I accept the compliment coming from you. I wish you had called me a Nazi too, you know – for opposing religious persecution and all…
    
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    August 19, 2018 1:51pm
    - Swifty
      
      No, I’ve never thought you a Nazi – but you frequently display your bigotry, hence calling you that. I threw in human filth, just as it’s one of your faves to throw at others.
      
      BTW – why do you lose your rag so much on here?
      
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      August 19, 2018 1:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        How come you don’t speak out about the thousands of posts about Muslims… if you are against religious bigotry?
        
        The fact is scum exactly like you have persecuted Jews for centuries. At the moment you dross are indulged in an orgy of hate against Muslims, but history shows you vermin will come after the Jews again. We can count on it.
        
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        August 19, 2018 5:34pm
      - GoVege
        
        RC loses his rag because he is condemned to a life of poverty, solely due to not having a womb……whereas any drug-taking boozer of a female gang member makes a cushy living just from spitting out kids to a life of abuse and criminality.
        If you weren’t the principled man you are RC, you would do what hundreds of other dudes do and hang around the supermarkets looking for a solo mum to live off.
        I salute you.
        
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        August 19, 2018 6:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        Vege, no I just have a very low bullshit tolerance and dislike hypocrites. I treat everyone equally. Not in a PC way, I am just egalitarian by nature.
        
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        August 19, 2018 8:28pm
      - Jack5
        
        GoVege, ‼️Kearealityczech‼️ doesn’t have a womb? Are you sure?
        
        Are you saying that because parrots lay eggs rather than have human-like wombs?
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:08pm
Jack5

The PR Queen is surpassed …

Green MP Julie Ann Genter today has ridden her bike to the maternity hospital to have her baby.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12109673

Whoops, sorry, didn’t realise this had already been reported in this thread – and the post delete function doesn’t seem to be working.
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August 19, 2018 3:16pm
Ross12

Either the USA judicial system is crazy or the left wing MSM are stupid ( the later I hope). CNN and few of their media mates have filed to get the names and addresses of the jurors in the Manafort case while they are still deliberating.
There is another alternative –it is just a game to intimidate the jurors , in which case this has to be a new extreme low for the USA media.
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August 19, 2018 3:40pm
Philview

Sounds like Andrew Little wants to put Peter Whittall behind bars. This is a terrible tragedy and I feel for the families but am appalled at the way Little is attempting to gain political capital from this.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106366936/exclusive-pike-river-boss-peter-whittall-guilt-free-living-in-australia
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August 19, 2018 4:22pm
- Jack5
  
  Time everyone let this go, nearly eight years on.
  
  There was lousy equipment, the whole project was flaky, and the collapse of world coal prices would probably have closed the mine by now. It was reckless that there was no second route out of the mine, but who knows whether one would have saved the miners.
  
  Learn from the mistakes and move on. It was a tragedy, but underground mining is dangerous work.
  
  The disaster was further proof that there is heaps of coal-seam gas ready to be fracked out in NZ, but sadly the Greens have killed any chance of using this natural resource.
  
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  August 19, 2018 4:42pm
- Longknives
  
  “Sounds like Andrew Little wants to put Peter Whittall behind bars”
  
  Hang on- Surely not the same Crim-Hugging Andrew Little who is hellbent on releasing every Rapist and Murderer into our Community? Because ‘Prisons aren’t working’ blah blah??
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:17pm
- KevOB
  
  Andy’s treading dangerous ground. There is sufficient competent opinion that establishing an undergound mine on a known fault was against global safety recommendations.
  The govt were instrumental in approvals and have to take responsibility not a manager appointed subsequently.
  I don’t see how Andy can avoid risk of a repeat explosion.
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:28pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    When was Pike River signed off and commissioned? Fucking Labour that’s who.
    
    On 12 March 2004, Minister of Conservation Chris Carter approved the access arrangement for Pike River Coal Ltd.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_River_Mine
    
    Was it not recommended that it be open cast, but the fucking greens objected? They have blood on their hands if that is the case. http://pc.blogspot.com/2010/11/guest-post-it-greens-stoopid.html
    
    So angry Andy can go and fuck himself in his crusade to ping Whitall.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:01pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And he was the prick in charge of the union at the time which said that the mine was perfectly safe.
      I don’t have the words to describe what a duplicitous prick Little is.
      Can you please help me Monique?
      
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      August 19, 2018 8:31pm
sooty

What else do you expect from an arsehole, but shit!
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August 19, 2018 4:33pm
Nostradamus

This news will go down well at The Standard (where they hate John Key and they hate his Hawaii holiday home even more):

Sir John Key puts up Hawaii home for a week to help top Auckland detective Sarah Cato’s cancer fight

Some of the silent auction outcomes were interesting:

– Barbecue dinner with Minister of Police Stuart Nash – “around $2500”.
– Lunch and a round of golf with Sir John Key at the Kauri Cliffs course where he played with former US president Barack Obama – “more than $3000”.
– A rudimentary drawing of the beehive by former Prime Minister Bill English – “just over $1000”.

Apparently a BBQ with Stuart Nash is worth something…
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August 19, 2018 5:24pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Any news yet on the price fetched for dinner for four hosted by nasska at the Commercial Hotel in Eketahuna?
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:50pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Mike:
    
    Hopefully Nasska can pop in and tell us. I heard that Jim’s Lawnmowing Service and Tony’s Tyre Shop increased their staff level in anticipation of a big weekend…
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:01pm
  - Longknives
    
    “Any news yet on the price fetched for dinner for four hosted by nasska at the Commercial Hotel in Eketahuna?”
    
    I’ll bid a couple of hundred if you throw in David Garrett, Big Bruv, D4J, Monique Watson,Dime and maybe an unlimited bartab…
    That would make for one hell of an evening!
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:31pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I think I could sell a few tickets for a dinner party featuring big bruv, D4J, and their fabled emails.
      
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      August 19, 2018 7:44pm
- Longknives
  
  Strange that our Virtue Signalling ‘People’s Princess’ never seems to donate anything to Charity..(Despite being on $500k PA)
  Yet all these ‘Evil Right Wingers’ are chipping in and helping this Cancer stricken Cop?…
  
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  August 19, 2018 6:26pm
lifesgood

Hilarious virtue signalling from Julie Ann Genter. Oh, my God….key, breathless adoration…she rode a bicycle to hospital to give birth!!!! For God’s sake, who cares and anyway what a stupid thing to do just to get some attention. Seems she’s too posh to push, anyway, and having an induction. I’ve got no time for these morons.
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August 19, 2018 5:35pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Just enough time to comment about them, I see.
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:51pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Seems she’s too posh to push, anyway, and having an induction.
  An induction is not a Caesarean.
  
  It is a procedure to start labour… usually by administration of a hormone or by breaking of amniotic membrane surrounding baby.
  
  1st babies are often late…. 41 -42 week pregnancy.
  
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  August 19, 2018 5:57pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I have heard a good shag sometimes helps things along. I suppose in her case riding a bicycle suffices.
    
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    August 19, 2018 7:49pm
    - sooty
      
      Christ on a bike!
      
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      August 19, 2018 8:57pm
- realityczech
  
  More spore from the meat sacks on the left. Having an over entitled brat is the most damaging thing anyone can do to the planet.
  
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  August 19, 2018 9:10pm
Niz

So Winston wants to get rid of the Maori seats.
That Massey VC (and her Maori staff) must be in a hell of a state. The deputy PM and ex acting PM no less is spouting hate speech!
Quick, somebody invite him to speak at the university. I want to see her de-platform him.
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August 19, 2018 6:10pm
mikenmildagain

Did any of you keen Kiwibloggers catch the latest TVNZ embarrassment? TVNZ removed a show from its on-demand ‘documentary’ section after realising, following media enquires, that it was pseudo-historical fiction.
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August 19, 2018 6:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ah, seven-foot-high pre-Maori giants!,
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018658273/seven-foot-tall-pre-maori-disappear-from-tvnz
  
  LOL
  
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  August 19, 2018 6:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Mike:
  
  pseudo-historical fiction
  
  You’re not suggesting, surely, that your friend UpandComer might have received NZ On Air funding to make a TV programme?
  
  But, to ask a serious question, does TVNZ’s on-demand library include programmes made by TVNZ (probably with NZ On Air funding) and programmes made by others but licensed to TVNZ?
  
  I don’t know much about the TV and film industry other than to know that there’s a complex web of contractual relationships. I remember when a Simpson Grierson lawyer received publicity over her involvement in the Lord of the Rings legal work. It all sounded very interesting.
  
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  August 19, 2018 6:28pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I don’t know whether the programme in question was funded at all by TVNZ or NZ on Air. One hopes not, but in these days where the taxpayer funds fake medicine like chiropractic and acupuncture, who knows.
    I was mightily amused though to hear that although TVNZ has dropped Skeletons in the Cupboard from its website, it still includes Sensing Murder as another ‘documentary’.
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:32pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Mike:
      
      it still includes Sensing Murder as another ‘documentary’.
      
      I’m trying to think who it was that came on to Kiwiblog several years ago and earnestly told us that Sensing Murder wasn’t a puff of hot air. It wasn’t UglyTruth, was it?
      
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      August 19, 2018 6:35pm
      - stephieboy
        
        “I went to a Sensing Murder psychic and all I got was a dead budgie flying above my head”
        
        https://thespinoff.co.nz/tv/02-03-2017/i-went-to-a-sensing-murder-psychic-and-all-i-got-was-a-dead-budgie-flying-above-my-head/
        
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        August 19, 2018 6:37pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I miss UglyTruth. He was a genuinely independent thinker.
        
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        August 19, 2018 6:44pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Oh, well now, let’s start with John Ansell and Philu!
        
        John Ansell: … Do you wiseacres dismiss Sensing Murder as an orchestrated conspiracy to defraud? Even if 99% of the work of those psychics was fake, it would only require a 1% success rate to constitute proof of communication with the departed. I think they’ve done enough to be believed. …
        
        DPF: Yes I dismiss Sensing Murder as an orchestrated conspiracy to defraud.
        
        John Ansell: Why David? On what rational grounds?
        [DPF: Because whenever these mediums are put to a proper controlled blind test, they fail or achieve no better results than blind luck. Believing people can speak to the dead because of a TV show is like believing in magic because of David Copperfield]
        
        Philu:
        you gotta be kidding..eh..?
        (apart from anything else..you deride 9/11 doubters as being ‘conspiracy-nuts’..
        ..and you are seriously pushing away the strongest (modern/widely accessableevidence ever of others’ (unexplainable) powers..
        ..as “an orchestrated conspiracy to defraud..” ..?
        ..so the ex-cop/production company..and uncle tom cobbley..are all ‘in on it’..eh..?
        (but nobodys’ leaked yet’..eh..?..)..(heh heh..!..)
        ..how can you claim to be a rational thinker..when you are just sticking your fists in your ears..closing your eyes..
        ..and going ‘nyah..nyah..nyah..!..i’m not listening..!..)
        how about you do one thing..
        ..next week is the final..where they have the cops who were actually on the case..asking the psychics the questions..
        ..(the promo footage shows said cops calling the program ‘a landmark in crime investigation..)
        ..or are they ‘in on it’ too..?
        ..i mean..do you not acknowledge there is so much we don’t know..?
        ..or are you a ‘this is it..!..this bottle of wine/food i am consuming..is ‘it’..”..?
        
        So at least 2 believers. I know, in a later year, that someone else popped up. It was either UglyTruth or Deadrightkev.
        
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        August 19, 2018 6:49pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        John Ansell. Well, he would revel in the pseudo-history bullshit, so I guess it’s no surprise he would fall for scam psychics too.
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:05pm
      - Longknives
        
        Being Agnostic- I confess I really have no idea as to the mysteries of life and what happens to us after we die…
        
        But with regard to ‘Psychics’ I find it odd that the Deceased seem to always choose middle-aged Gypsy women called ‘Madam Moonbeam’ and the like to communicate with!
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:48pm
      - GoVege
        
        I miss Gabby….
        
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        August 19, 2018 10:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Looks like Plummtree productions are a small 2 person set-up
      https://www.plummtreeproductions.com/
      
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      August 19, 2018 7:30pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Terrific. TVNZ are accepting productions from anyone, it seems. The race for content is truly a race to the bottom.
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:46pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Thanks Maggy. Their our films page is interesting:
        
        New Zealand: Skeletons in the Cupboard – Part 1: The Redheads digs deeply into the now denied history of the early Patuparaiaehe, the Turehu, the Urekehu and the once powerful but peace loving red or golden-haired, green- eyed early inhabitants — the Ngati Hotu and the Waitaha. Who are these people, where did they come from and where are they now?
        
        New Zealand: Skeletons in the Cupboard – Part 2: Under the Carpet dives under the layers of volcanic ash, lava, sand and embargoes to discover historical information lost and covered up by government decision, designed to keep the truth of New Zealand’s history away from the people; those that really need it.
        
        It doesn’t look like they’ve released part 3 yet, but in the meantime, they’ve found something else:
        
        Cousins Across the Sea: An ancient legend sparks controversy when Peter and Gabi start delving into hidden history as they ask the question ‘Were the Tahitians really the earliest people to colonise Hawaii?’ It seems not and the answers unearthed point the finger at wilfull [sic] obfuscation of the startling truth.
        
        There seems to be an underlying theme in their programmes.
        
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        August 19, 2018 7:58pm
big bruv

I see that Kofi Annan has passed away. Given the position he held as sec gen of the UN then he must be judged on his time in that role.
Annan was a crushing failure, his inaction over Kosovo and Africa showed the world once again that the UN is a complete and utter waste of time and money.
Kofi Annan was a failure.
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August 19, 2018 6:46pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Helen Clark remembers Kofi Annan as ‘leading statesperson of our time’
  
  Former prime minister Helen Clark has remembered Kofi Annan as the “leading statesperson of our time” following the announcement of his death yesterday. … “Kofi knew it wasn’t just about him, he knew you had to have the right people in the right place to do the job you wanted to do. That, I think carried him through some very difficult times as secretary-general.”
  
  Hmmm… a failed UN Secretary-General candidate waxing lyrical about a former UN Secretary-General and Nobel Peace Prize recipient…
  
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  August 19, 2018 7:03pm
  - sooty
    
    Hay. Anything to get your name and picture out there!
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:53pm
- stephieboy
  
  big bruv, Kofi Annan was not a failure given he was constrained by the Security councils power of veto as we have see recently in the Syrian civil war or the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
  
  Diplomacy is the usual way to resolve international tensions and problems which he was very good at. Plus the mountain of good work the UN does in disaster relief, medical and humanitarian aid etc
  
  I think even the present US administration see its value after talk of withdrawing from it.
  
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  August 19, 2018 7:16pm
  - Longknives
    
    “Diplomacy is the usual way to resolve international tensions and problems ”
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time
    
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    August 19, 2018 7:45pm
  - realityczech
    
    Trump has done more for world peace in a few months than Annan did in his entire career.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:33pm
    - KevOB
      
      What? Running his own war against almost every country with his sanctions or tariffs or both.
      
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      August 19, 2018 10:01pm
- RF
  
  Was he the one Muldoon called a cheeky darkie ?
  
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  August 19, 2018 7:42pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Different era. Muldoon was focused on 1970s African politicians. ‘Cheeky darkie’ was the select epithet from noted comedian Paul (“please give me a knighthood before I cark it”)Holmes .
    
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    August 19, 2018 7:49pm
    - RF
      
      Heck… I was wrong. Thank you for the correction…
      
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      August 19, 2018 7:58pm
- Swifty
  
  I heard he was a major rooter too.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:28pm
RF

Tourists have been robbed by 3 Maori males near Turangi.

Vehicle stopped and searched with contents stolen.

FFS what’s wrong with these idiots…..
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August 19, 2018 7:31pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The NZ Herald headline is interesting: Tourists robbed, threatened near Turangi in central North Island
  
  Why did the editor think the words “in central North Island” were necessary? Is “Turangi” not good enough?
  
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  August 19, 2018 7:44pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  They are poor and oppressed, having failed to receive the ‘trickle-down. from the grievance industry.
  They therefore have to resort to robbing tourists in order to survive.
  
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  August 19, 2018 8:39pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Close, Captain Mainwaring, but not quite.
    
    The bros were exercising their rights under Te Tiriti to charge a tourist tax. If tourists don’t pay, then the bros exercise their rights under Te Tiriti to enforce the tourist tax – by whatever means necessary. Unfortunately for the tourists, they apparently weren’t told this when they arrived at Auckland Airport. Our immigration officers let them down. Hopefully, in future, all tourists will be informed of their obligations under Te Tiriti as mere visitors to NZ.
    
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    August 19, 2018 8:49pm
- GoVege
  
  They’re worse than idiots.
  If they had an ounce of working brain matter, they’d realize the money these tourists bring in pay for the bennies they and their 20 children each will be on for their entire lives.
  
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  August 19, 2018 10:30pm
katana

https://katana17.wordpress.com/2018/08/17/australian-senator-fraser-anning-rightly-calls-for-a-final-solution-transcript/

Fraser Anning, a new Senator in Australia, delivers a stunningly commonsense maiden speech declaring that Australia needs a “final solution” to the immigration crisis that is flooding Australia with non-Whites.
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August 20, 2018 1:19am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, since when have two basic words been reserved for only one instance in history.
  If he had said only solution, or the best solution would it have been OK?
  
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Robbing or bashing tourists should get double the normal sentence.
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