General Debate 18 August 2018

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duggledog

I wonder how long the Americans (and key allies) are going to sit on their hands and watch the Chicoms’ military get bigger… and bigger… and more advanced… and more audacious.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/364326/pentagon-says-china-military-likely-training-for-strikes-on-us-targets

If it happens, I suspect it will happen without notice, and it will get out of control extremely quickly.

I don’t know if China will experience disaster from internally created problems, or from external forces like a hot war or this trade war, but I have a strong feeling millions of Chinese lives are needlessly going to be put at risk.

Again.
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August 18, 2018 8:01am
- tas
  
  China is sitting on a demographic timebomb thanks to the legacy of the one-child policy. Their economy is also overheated from decades of flat out growth.
  Add to that their huge military, economic, and political power, and you have a recipe for global disaster.
  
  Let’s hope that, whatever happens, the west can stick together to ride out the storm.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:26am
  - Viking2
    
    Their one child policy has created a problem for them and India as well. There are thousands more men than women and the men will move to where there are women available no matter where.
    That in itself creates a problem for the world.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:41am
    - Southern Raider
      
      You mean Auckland
      
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      August 18, 2018 8:57am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Exactly, warn your daughters now
        
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        August 18, 2018 5:17pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Start learning Mandarin now and only talk to your kids and grandkids in Chinese.
  Take a guess who will be overseeing our new Infrastructure Ministry’s work.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:49am
  - Manolo
    
    Non ti credo, cara Maggy. La lingua di Dante e’ la piu’ bella!
    
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    August 18, 2018 6:08pm
- s.russell
  
  The US is not sitting on its hands. The navy is being expanded from about 280 ships now to 355. This policy was adopted by Obama and is being continued under Trump.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:52am
  - Colville
    
    s.russell.
    
    I am not at all up with modern warfare options…
    
    But..
    
    What would be the life expectancy of 20,000 tonnes of floating armour plate in a shooting war?
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:05pm
- Southern Raider
  
  China have spent the last decade “investing” in multiple pacific Islands.
  
  I wonder why they wanted to build all those brand new large wharves
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:59am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Southern Raider they are even starting closer to home than the South Pacific as they now have some Philippines feeling like being part of China from the amount of cash flowing from there. The current President has made it a cheap buy after driving the Peso down in a somewhat single (heavy) handed manner. Such a shame after his predecessor made so much progress with International trade and relations largely unseen by the masses. NZ even helped with financial support for the dairy industry to lift it’s whole milk production from 20% so desperately needed for the ever increasing number of babies.
    It is more likely to be victory by stealth than anything more confrontational like buying the Pacific and many other gems along their steel silk road. So much of the spread of their tentacles go invisible as behind any issues the MSM latch on to for click bait with the trade wrangles being pushed as a catalyst to more direct confrontation providing a great distraction.
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:51pm
- GazzaW
  
  Way too late duggle – the horse bolted long ago. Unless the USA wants to risk Armageddon start learning Mandarin. China is doing just fine with its current expansion tactics and the last thing they want is war with the US or the West. Africa, the Americas, Europe, Asia and Oceania are all increasingly being indebted to China, their infrastructures financed by China and their populations peopled by Chinese immigration. NZ is but a small piece of the jigsaw.
  
  Frankly it doesn’t worry me at all.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:43am
  - Komata
    
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    In a NZ context, we are in the process of changing from being the UK’s dairy farm to being China’s. Same industry, different owners, ALTHOUGH start to expect the importation of large numbers of laboureres from the mainland to staff the farms; the locals (Kiwi’s) will have no chance.
    
    China has form in such matters, and are well practiced in its application. Zim comes imediately to mind…
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:53am
    - GazzaW
      
      I agree with you but I’m not so sure about the mass importation of Chinese farm workers. I rather think that the major expansion in dairying will be on the Chinese mainland rather than NZ. Geopolitically and strategically NZ is important for the Chinese. Gateway to Antarctica and its minerals and fishing, air transport hub for access to South America (there are six Chinese airlines already flying into Auckland), port facilities, comms hub and importantly as a loaded pistol pointed straight at Fortress Australia.
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:18am
      - Jack5
        
        Gazza, China already produces twice as much milk as New Zealand.
        
        When the Industrial Revolution began in Britain, it was paralleled by an Agricultural Revolution, fuelled in part by tiny holdings and public holdings (commons and so on) being merged into economic-size farms.
        
        The same has begun to happen in China, with villagers moving to the big cities to work in industrial plants. Chinese agricultural production will increase sharply from the bigger economic farms that result from this.
        
        China, by area, is the fourth biggest country in the world, and about 55 per cent is agricultural. (About 42 per cent of NZ’s land is agricultural).
        
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        August 18, 2018 10:32am
  - Piniwi
    
    True Gazza W it really is essential to see beyond the sensational headlines as some journalists are little less than atavists using a keyboard/microphone rather than marching with a placard. As we also have in NZ with the attempted distraction of a “leak” provided to a had picked promoter.
    You too have been following the money as well as the magnetic attraction for China when a weak administration leaves a country in desperate need of a financial buoy to stay afloat. Also note the mention of what might their key target to garner a favored response to the offer to “help”. Infrastructure. Or more particularly major deficiencies where progressively over 3 or more decades it has been neglected by local authorities more attracted to vanity monuments to accede to some individuals ego. The sliding NZ$ will have drawn early attention after they saw even with their trusty abacus by the bead-less row of the bottom line the country was rowed into a hole. Yet another possible rowing gold for NZ as the result of the Fool Factor (unintended consequences) taking their toll. As their proverb says “a moth throws itself into the flame” they will keep a candle lit for them.
    
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    August 18, 2018 2:19pm
- SGA
  
  @duggledog
  
  pentagon-says-china-military-likely-training-for-strikes-on-us-targets
  
  Well, of course they would be (amongst other things), wouldn’t they? They probably train for strikes against India and Russia as well, I would imagine.
  The Russians probably have various game plans for strikes on Europe, China, and the USA, I’d guess.
  Now maybe, just maybe, the US doesn’t have a similar level of preparedness for strikes against China and Russia (and who knows who else), but I’d be surprised.
  
  I’m not sure what the story is here?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:57am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  China doesn’t have a military, China’s ruling party the CCP has a privately operated military but that doesn’t belong to the Chinese state and is not answreable to civilian oversight.
  
  It exists largely to ensure the party it is part of retains power. Secondly it claims it would like to retake Taiwan, in reality I think the secondary goal is to be able to disrupt regional trade amongst the first island chain as a detterant.
  
  Militarially speaking they have no real offensive war potential because they have a net materials deficit in key areas like oil and iron, import most of their technology and are highly dependent on foreign trade and also interdependence.
  
  Therefore they would need the support of at least Russia in any conflict, similarly they would rely on nuetrality of s.korea at a minimum to supply materials, technology and parts for their war economy.
  
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  August 18, 2018 2:06pm
DigNap15

I think that countries like Vietnam, The Philipines etc should have got together 5 years ago and stood up to China and stopped them building those islands.
They are a huge threat now
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August 18, 2018 8:07am
- srylands
  
  They tried. Things got nasty. They backed down.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:12am
- Justitia
  
  The Philippines sought help at international law, something New Zealand likes to prattle on about as the panacea for all disputes. The UN Court of Permanent Arbitration in the Hague ruled in favour of the Philippines in 2016 and rejected China’s historic claim to much of the South China Sea. The Chinese laughed at the |Court’s ruling and have continued constructing military facilities in the region. So much for the UN when one of its permanent members gives a legal ruling the fingers. There is a strong lobby in Wellington that pushes China’s barrow, and of course we have a man sitting in Parliament whose links to the Chinese intelligence services have caused concern. New Zealand’s approach to the South China Sea issue is essentially all piss and wind like the barber’s cat.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:31am
  - Viking2
    
    Two men. One on either side.
    Both are an appalling indictment of political stupidity and lack of nationalism.
    Apparently we are not proud of being Kiwi anymore.
    
    Sad. sad. sad.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:43am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, so The Philipines and Vietnam should have sent some ships to those islands and stopped the Chinese building those islands.
    Would China have sunk those ships in view of International condemnation?
    I don’t think so.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:50am
    - s.russell
      
      The Chinese have lots of other ways to pressure neighbours.
      
      Also, the Philippines and other nations might be unconvinced that the US would back them 100% if it came to war over such an issue.
      
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      August 18, 2018 8:54am
srylands

“This story should have ended with a mea culpa and promise to be less free with the Crown limo fleet in future.”

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/106320290/tracy-watkins-bridges-doesnt-need-a-formal-inquiry-into-limogate

Only in New Zealand could this stupidity flourish. The government owns cars and employs drivers. Then when they are used, we say ‘shit why didn’t you use something cheaper?’ Once the cars are purchased and the drivers employed, it is sensible to use them instead of buying other surface transport services. That is because most of the costs are fixed.

If in the future Simon Bridges rents a Toyota corolla from Avis, instead of using the BMWs, the billed cost of HIS transport will be lower, but the cost of ALL transport services to the taxpayer will be higher.
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August 18, 2018 8:11am
- fernglas
  
  I have yet to see an explanation of how the use of a Crown vehicle cost what it did, and in any event, I can’t see why there is such a fuss about such a piddling sum of money. What was he supposed to do? A camper van and a bit of free camping? He’s the leader of the opposition. He toured the country. It cost the average kiwi about 25 cents. SFW?
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:17am
  - backster
    
    The use of a Limo by the Leader of the Opposition is charged out at $150 per hour but for Government Ministers it is charged at $70 per hour. Who knows whyso.
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:32pm
    - KiWombat
      
      The Limo and the driver are both waiting for a customer whether one uses it or not. Who cares who uses it ?
      
      We end up paying for it either way !
      
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      August 18, 2018 4:11pm
- Paulus
  
  Helen Clark has the use of a Government Limousine whenever and wherever she wants –
  What is her bill ? – not disclosed of course.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:26am
  - KevOB
    
    Doesn’t she still have those privileges?
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:50am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I think you will find her bill, and John Key’s, are disclosed, but you can look it up for yourself.
    I believe they get about $50,000 per year and use of a limo and/or subsidised air travel when on official business.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:56am
    - Harkman
      
      Mike Moore, Geoff Palmer, and Mrs Lange are all still utilising this as well.
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:01am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I think PMs for five minutes only – Palmer, Moore, Shipley and English – get a much lower level of perks.
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:07am
      - Soffet
        
        It used to amuse me, living in Roxburgh Street in Mt Victoria, just down the road from Palmer – the number of times I saw the Govt. car waiting outside for him. Given that he’s 15 minutes walk from anywhere he still uses those damn cars at every opportunity.
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:19am
      - sooty
        
        He’s an etitled one that one and still wet behind the ears. NZ’s biggest wet!
        
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        August 18, 2018 2:19pm
    - kevn
      
      @mma…. Key donated his PM salary to charity. I don’t begrudge him any perks after 8+ years at the helm… working full time.
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:02am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yes, we’d be pretty petty to begrudge modest support for people like Key and Clark after their years of service in such demanding public roles. Yet some people can’t let go of their hatreds.
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:08am
      - srylands
        
        I have heard that before but I have never heard him confirm that he donated his entire salary to charity.
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:15am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Or any of it, for that matter.
        
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        August 18, 2018 10:31am
      - Paulus
        
        I very much doubt if Key takes any after job perks at all.
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:13pm
- Southern Raider
  
  How come if a minsters rents one of the BMWs then it is significantly cheaper than if Bridges does.
  
  Exactly the same car, same driver, same petrol
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:03am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Different colours
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:43am
  - flipper
    
    The discussion over costs is BS.
    The cars are owned by the Crown
    The drivers are employed by the Crown.
    Certain folks in the political arena are allocated use according to their official Parliamentary duties.
    Ergo, the “cost” is simply a transfer of from one internal (Govt) account to another.
    that is not “spending.”
    If Bridges had not done what every Leader of the Oppn has done, he would be damned by the media. Same with Ardern, Little, Cunliffe, English, Key et al.
    But the debate serves one purpose: it distracts from the dung heap that is conducted by the arm waving long toothed nettle eater.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:29am
    - sooty
      
      You do have a way with words!
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:11am
duggledog

So what is the Americans’ plan? Do they have one?

Take it back to the basics of the human story.

There are two powerful tribes in the valley. Or two powerful Mob families in a city.

One (as always) is the larger, more prosperous and more heavily armed.

The other tribe starts playing silly buggers. What always happens, once negotiations then threats have proved fruitless?
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August 18, 2018 8:14am
Steve (North Shore)

Free money to give away is getting a bit tight – the bank is nearly empty.
How long before GST goes to 18%?
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August 18, 2018 8:16am
- artemisia
  
  Good idea to raise GST alongside compensating tax reductions. We have a massive black economy, last I read over $20bill a year, conservatively. Look at the poor plumber in the news today, can’t even make minimum wage.
  
  Not holding my breath on the reductions though.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:21am
  - Paulus
    
    Hey hey, not a tax reduction – just up the GST to 20% as that is a figure “most” people can understand how to add up ?
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:27am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      The left will still use variable arithmetic and a roving decimal point – it is their way
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:16am
  - Viking2
    
    Plumbers earn very well but that guy sets the bar high.
    I guess when you under pay your Chinese import staff and use inferior pipe work there’s money to be made. wouldn’t want him to be my plumber.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:47am
    - starboard
      
      I wonder how much J Arden Plumbing Ltd charge to install toilets?
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:14am
  - Southern Raider
    
    A lot of cash jobs were historically when tradies were doing weekend jobs for mates so they avoided second job tax rates and did a favour for friends
    
    However now you have a very large portion of society (especially Auckland) of people who come from cultures of actively avoiding tax and because they deal amongst themselves it would be very hard to catch
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:10am
    - igm
      
      We have a restaurant in a town close by that does not have Eftpos, just cash. Bet they are not declaring too much.
      Still, as a colleague said to me, “Why declare too much when it is only wasted on deadbeats and so-called refugees”?
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:02am
      - Piniwi
        
        Funny igm the biggest operators of wholesale like grocery outlets here are Chinese and all are strictly cash. They work of a very skinny margin but compensate with the biggest lines of customers at the checkout which is more intended to keep abreast of demands and restocking. Unlike the local versions of supermarkets who have card charging with what seems to be the most laborious process for such transactions ever seen. What with constant malfunctions, lost network lines they are only saved by so many missing items “out of stock” absent from the trolleys. One stocks NZ Mainland cheese but a walk to the chiller at the back of the store is more often a little more exercise as the shelf is bare. It seems that progress come at the cost of loosing a primary skill of the successful shopkeeper.
        
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        August 18, 2018 2:44pm
  - marcw
    
    I wouldn’t be surprised if this bunch of incompetents also started a group of gst exempt categories. Eg feminine products, pharmaceuticals, fresh food etc. All this will do is add massive extra costs, and will cancel out any benefits from increasing the actual rate. They won’t care of course … virtue signalling.
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:27pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  Which ends up punishing their own constituency the most.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:22am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  It went to 15% under the National regime, BUT, was balanced with tax adjustments elsewhere making the increase somewhat fiscally neutral.
  
  When the collection of fuckwits pull this stunt, there will be no balance and the tax take will increase with the ‘poor’ paying more unless there is a massive transfer via something like wff.
  
  As much as gst is disliked, I actually favour this form of indirect tax on consumption rather than effort as with paye or being self employed. It gives the consumer the choice to purchase or not (although I have difficulty with gst on rates and how it works with petrol) and catches all the purchases made by the feral scum in our society who will do anything but work and think dealing P is a career option
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:28am
  - KevOB
    
    GST just transfers more of the tax burden to the poor while the richest offshore their wealth to avoid the tax net.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:55am
DigNap15

So what is our plan? Do we have one?
(Oh we scrapped our Skyhawks)
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August 18, 2018 8:19am
- igm
  
  Filthy Phil Goff once claimed he had them sold.
  Oh, but like all lefties, his knowledge of commerce is nil . . . where’s the cheque you liar?
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:22am
  - Paulus
    
    Talking of Liars – why is Winston Peters such a liar – is it genetic or early senility ?
    And the so called scum media propagate his lies.
    And he just laughs.
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:29am
    - igm
      
      Has he repaid the $158,000 he owes taxpayers?
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:18am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        No, colour me surprised!
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:44am
    - kowtow
      
      Why ?
      
      2 words.
      
      Professional politician.
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:37am
    - Piniwi
      
      Hardly Paulus it is much more deep seated and came as part of the original package made more of a challenge by the aging process where memory can make the distinction more of a challenge. Some who have it set on earlier have even been known to hear voices. Like a claim of “hearing” somebody say “silly little girl” for example.
      
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      August 18, 2018 2:51pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes Goff really is filthy, he has been behind so many bad decisions and deals etc.
    Smiling Assassin (asshole)
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:51am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  We will bring out babbbbbbeeeeeee!
  
  That solves everything doesn’t it?
  
  What? The Chinese already have a billion or so of those already and one more will be neither here nor there?
  
  Bugger, thate plan was going so well here!
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  Hulun and Goof scrapped our Skyhawks. “We” had no say in it.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:18am
  - igm
    
    Goff assisted her . . . old comrades at arms, experts at throwing paint, and spitting on returning soldiers who had been fighting a war.
    To think both of them have the audacity to attend Anzac Day services.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:21am
    - waikatogirl
      
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      Bastards, they are!
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:22am
      - Paulus
        
        Are they the only bastard ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:17pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Do repeating those lies over and over help to make them real for you, igm?
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:32am
      - starboard
        
        hahahahaha ! MM’s hero , read this puff piece bollocks on goof for shits and giggles heh
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10744755
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:08pm
    - stephieboy
      
      “To think both of them have the audacity to attend Anzac Day services.”
      
      A step up from they never did. If you attend why can’t they?
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:59am
  - stephieboy
    
    waikatogirl, yes you did. At the ballot box! The subsequent 9 years of National did not see the strike arm restored
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:07am
Longknives

Definition of Irony-

A Blogger- Who only became ‘famous’ for botching a National Anthem’ -Spouts off weekly and rants and raves about things she knows absolutely nothing about.
Today that Blogger is sneering that Pakeha (who she seemingly detests) shouldn’t be allowed an opinion on the Haka before Rugby- as it is apparently nothing to do with them!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108020
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August 18, 2018 8:21am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I know, i know! Let me guess who you are referring to!
  
  Oooh it’s a toughie!
  
  Umumum, no I give up! Give me a hint! Can she write anything about anything that does not involve crayons? Is she famous outside her own fishbowl? Will she be a Gween pardy candidate next? Is she already a total morn or just working towards that level of achievement?
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:38am
  - lifesgood
    
    She has absolutely ensured I will NEVER stay at her parents’ hotel in Rotorua.
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:21am
    - Paulus
      
      Thought they had sold the hotel for a fortune.
      Isn’t she a relative of the great hero Howie Morrison and the Morrison whanau ?
      
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      August 18, 2018 1:19pm
      - Piniwi
        
        @Paulus you mean like one of those they don’t talk about or even acknowledge “family” ties to?
        
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        August 18, 2018 2:55pm
- Harkman
  
  How come the world Pakeha hasn’t been banned yet? It is clearly a racist term.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:03am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Had to fill in a medical form the other day. Ethnicity question. I usually put NZ’er but as it was medical I considered my long, long ago arrival via 6 generations from Britain and rejected British and rejected European, gave Pakeha (the racist term) a swerve and went for White. Why did writing that make me feel guilty? Perhaps I should have just gone right back to my origins and put Viking!
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:28am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Why do you think pakeha is a racist term?
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:33am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Serious question; Why should non-Maori be labeled by a Maori descriptor? While Maori are self titled, a vast majority of New Zealanders are European in ancestry so why shouldn’t the correct racial descriptor be as such.
        Personally I don’t really give a rats but if I was asked I am “a New Zealander” first and “European New Zealander” if pushed to assign to a racial demographic.
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:48am
    - Komata
      
      Waikatogirl
      
      Because of its associated conotations and origins, I don’t use ‘Pakeha’ to describe myself (a fifth gen Kiwi), but instead use ‘Anglo’; when replying to such questions; it confuses the heck out of those who ask such things…
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:58am
      - GoVege
        
        Doesn’t Maori mean ordinary person or something?
        Start calling yourself that.
        Could be all sorts of benefits….
        
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        August 18, 2018 10:17am
      - waikatogirl
        
        “Anglo” sounds good Komata. I shall remember that next time. ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:56am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      British are Europeans in the same way that Maori are Pacific Islanders, I guess…
      
      (If Britain is part of Europe, then NZ must be an island in the Pacific Ocean.)
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:49am
  - stephieboy
    
    Harkman, a racist term?
    BS!
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pākehā
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:46am
- wiseowl
  
  Rugby has nothing to do with Moori.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:01am
  - Longknives
    
    I recall about the time of the 2011 RWC there was a story doing the rounds- Some Maori ‘Historian’ was claiming that Maori did,in fact, invent Rugby..
    ‘British saw Maori playing it on the beach and took it back to the UK’ etc etc
    
    The whole story was so absurd it never really gained any traction..
    (Although the Matariki fraud proves you can sell just about anything to gullible ‘White Guilt’ types)
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:07am
Huevon

Nigel Farage is on Radio NZ with Kim Hill.

Why do we pay taxes to fund this biased, narrow minded, bigoted, left wing fanatic masquerading as a journalist?
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August 18, 2018 8:22am
- igm
  
  You will be paying more to keep these treasonous bastards on the air. Deceptive Curren is giving them more of our taxes.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:24am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Is Nigel Farage pretending to be a journalist now?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:01am
  - Harkman
    
    Are you still pretending to be an environmentalist?
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:04am
  - JibberJabber
    
    They`re all pretending, real “journalists” are as real as real Unicorns.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:06am
- Inandout
  
  Kim has a deep voice, just like our Helen. Goes with being a female socialist.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:07am
  - Jack5
    
    ?Kim Hill sounds like she smokes eight cigars a day.
    
    I hope she’s not ill.
    
    Perhaps she’s an avatar. They recorded her old broadcasts, broke them down into syllables, and now a computer constructs her ramblings from a script.
    
    The script is of interviews done by a younger Leftist woman portraying Kim. ?
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:20am
    - lifesgood
      
      Long term smoker. I saw her desperately puffing away in a car park once, puffing as if her life depended on it. She is a typical long term female smoker, scrawny, wrinkled and with a husky voice. Purports to be intelligent but can’t see what she’s doing/done to herself.
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:25am
  - igm
    
    Probably has nuts . . . the Labour/Green way.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:22am
duggledog

Can’t do it Steve. That puts gas close to $2.50 a litre.

$2.50 a litre is where the Joke Government comes to an end.
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August 18, 2018 8:23am
- DigNap15
  
  Really?
  Us stupid Kiwis will just pay it, we need to drive
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:27am
- Paulus
  
  Try having a small efficient engined car which only uses 98 oct – that is 18 cents higher than 91 oct.
  And without the 11 cents surcharge yet.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:32am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    98 in hot weather, 95 or 91 is fine in colder weather. Car companies tell you to use 98 because it is very slightly more efficient, and slightly more power, but not 5-10% better. They don’t care about economics of running your car.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:40am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  But it’s only money
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:24am
  - geoff3012
    
    Just a round of drinks.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:58am
man.u

It was good to get a response from the Chancellor in regards to my complaint about the Massey Uni VC. I still do not believe the explanation that has been given, nor do I think the proposal to have a series of discussions is a satisfactory response.

“Thank you for your email in regards to the University’s decision to cancel a venue booking for the Massey Manawatū Politics Society event with Dr Don Brash due to be held last week at Massey University in Manawatū.

Before the planned event, society members became concerned about a potential security risk because of indications on social media of demonstration. They approached the University. Massey staff, including Vice-Chancellor Professor Thomas, looked at publicly available social media posts and became concerned.

Professor Thomas was faced with a difficult situation and chose to make a decision in the interests of the safety of staff, students and our campus community. As a Council, we fully support Professor Thomas’ decision to take a cautious approach to matters of safety and security based on the information available to her at the time.

She has reiterated her commitment – and Massey University’s – to free speech and has proposed to staff that the University engage in a series of discussions around that issue on our campuses.”
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August 18, 2018 8:24am
- fernglas
  
  Jolly good. More focus groups. Can any of these wankers do something productive?
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:27am
- lifesgood
  
  Bulls**t!!!
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:28am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Why use “Manawatū” when the English word Manawatu will do?
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Because so few Kiwis have ever heard Maori spoken by a native speaker, so they need guidance as to which are long and which are short vowels.
    
    (Not that I have ever heard Manawatu pronounced with a short u)
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:02am
    - Inandout
      
      It is ‘Manawatoo’ to locals, just as ‘Waitemata’ is not ‘Waitermartar’ to locals.
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:11am
      - Jack5
        
        Macrons are not for pronunciation.
        
        They are a written symbol that you are proudly a Leftist multiculturist. Bone carvings for the literate and semi-literate. ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 9:22am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        I guess that’s why the English language place name of “Hauraki” is pronounced “Hoe-laki” on many of the radio stations here…
        
        I have never hear a Japanese announcer drop out of Japanese and insert English proper nouns as they would be pronounced by a native speaker of English. It’s just not a natural thing to do.
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:53am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      It depends which part of the country you live in, Just as in England there are differing pronunciations.
      
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      August 18, 2018 12:29pm
- Viking2
  
  Totally a gutless bunch of wankers then.
  too tired to uphold the Law and respect the members of the community who did want to hear the speech.
  
  Fucking Plonkers who responded to threats of violence instead of calling the police and army out.
  
  Disgraceful. Weak.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:53am
- harrygee
  
  Perchance the Vice Chancellors of Massey University and the University of Western Australia are one and the same?
  
  https://amp.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/higher-level-of-risk-uwa-cancels-controversial-us-doctor-s-transgender-talk-20180817-p4zy3g.html
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:28am
- kowtow
  
  stephen franks’ blog always worth a visit , but he’s got a couple of great posts on this.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:41am
slightlyrighty

There is a big furore over the casting of straight actors for gay roles in movies.

The LBGTQ Activist base is now calling for all gay roles to be played by gay actors because only they have lived the experience. Of course they can still play straight roles because they have had to live in a straight world.

I have little time for those who call to replace one prejudice with another. It is called acting because you are pretending to be another person.

A gay person has every right to say that a straight actor is not convincing playing a gay love scene, but since when has Hollywood ever played a realistic love scene for anyone? Movies are stylized and we critique performances as a result.

Tom Hanks is not as dumb as Forrest Gump. Sir Anthony Hopkins has never killed or eaten anyone. Sitr Ian McKellen is no Wizard. Daniel Craig is no secret agent.

Although R.Lee Ermey was a Marine Corp Drill Sergeant.

I don’t think the activists have thought this through. The counterpoint for only gay actors playing gay is that only straight actors can play straight.

Sexuality should not be a barrier to any role, so why are activists calling for exactly that?
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August 18, 2018 8:27am
- holysheet
  
  Because they want their cake (cock) and eat it too.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:36am
- VicParking
  
  Its also strange that black actors should play white actor roles, but heaven forgive if a white actor plays a black actor role. Othello for instance. Who would ever want a old white man to play ‘an old black ram tupping your white ewe’
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:42am
- MrTips
  
  Here’s part of your answer:
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20063233
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:47am
- lifesgood
  
  Wasn’t that great heterosexual heart throb, Cary Grant gay? It didn’t stop his legions of female fans being fooled.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:47am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    I don’t think it was Carey Grant.
    You are probably thinking of Rock Hudson.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:05am
    - Wangas Feral
      
      That reminds me of the old joke. You can’t get blood from a stone but you can get aids from a rock.
      
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      August 18, 2018 9:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Sir Ian explains the process of ACTING to Ricky Gervais
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZOrUgt4nys
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:09am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Imagine if that rule was reversed. More than a few actors would be out of work I’d suggest.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:50am
- Nukuleka
  
  The left will end up destroying the left. The LBGT alphabeters are having a go here at the leftie progressive Hollywooders. There’s no loyalty amongst the left. Yippee.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:14am
- Longknives
  
  Christ the ‘Rainbow Community’ are never happy are they??
  Professional Victims.
  If they make it that only Gay Actors can play Gay characters in a short while they will be shrieking and wailing about being ‘Typecast’ .
  You just can’t win.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:28am
VicParking

In between running our country it seems that Cindy has time to edit an addition of the failing newspaper. I suppose with all the schools on strike all the photo opportunities have gone so that frees up her diary. At least, like running the country, she has summed the task up to a tee, it “ is an impossible task”
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August 18, 2018 8:29am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  She did it on her friends kitchen floor, the cat was delighted as it was raining outside
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:55am
  - VicParking
    
    The cat like the economy is dead.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:16am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Waiting for the dead cat bounce then?
      
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      August 18, 2018 1:29pm
DigNap15

Putting GST up would be a good idea for the COL as its “not a new tax”
But so much GST is not declared even now, tradies etc under the table, immigrant scams etc

But yes a GST rise should be balanced by a PAYE reduction.

I say cut the dpb and drop our PAYE, so we all have more to spend.
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August 18, 2018 8:30am
- Southern Raider
  
  Tradies can’t hide GST on materials because it’s paid at source eg Placemakers
  
  Even collecting that would be a big gain
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:15am
  - VicParking
    
    The GST is claimed back. Its the cash in the hand that is not declared. Cash Tradies swap around GST receipts to cover their tracks.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:23am
  - Colville
    
    tradie just buys the materials thru the company, the GST is claimed back then its sold to a cash customer and that is not declared.
    
    The win for the tradie is twofold.
    
    1- Tradie gets their hourly rate in the hand.
    2- Tradie makes less profit in the companies books because of every $1 material cost of the cash job reduces $1 of other profit to zero.
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:28pm
gorse

The Simon Bridges’ limo expenses debate is being blown out of all proportion. The VIP service has a number of fixed costs. It employs drivers and provides them with intensive driver training. The cars are all purchased, albeit at a cheap price by BMW at the moment (advertising for the brand). The cars are already insured, registered and housed in bases which include garaging. A lot of fixed costs are kept down, eg, drivers clean their cars when they can. All of these fixed costs will have to be paid for whether they are used or not. Really the only extra costs while they are on the road is diesel, driver accommodation, and depreciation, (which is less than it otherwise would be due to the deal done with BMW). Conjuring up a figure of a $113,000 travel bill is artificial. The real extra cost to the tax payer over “normal” use is far far lower than this number. The argument that taxis would be cheaper is wrong. They would only be if we dumped the VIP cars altogether. I would hate to see that. If we are a first world developed country hosting foreign dignitaries, the supply of this sort of service should be unquestioned.
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August 18, 2018 8:39am
- KevOB
  
  All parliamentarians have horrific calls on their time. They need to be fresh for their duties not worn out out from travel.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:06am
- Southern Raider
  
  And I bet that driver was stocked to be able to get out of the capital for a few weeks and actually drive as opposed to sitting around all day waiting to take a lazy MP across the street in Thorndon
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:17am
- srylands
  
  Yes I commented the same earlier in the thread. Tracy Watkins in today’s Herald is suggesting that Simon will learn a lesson. Be more frugal with the BMWs. And presumably use taxis and rental cars instead. Which would increase total transport costs. Once the BMWs are purchased they should be used for all Ministerial surface transport. Because most of the costs are fixed. Simon’s bill was high because those fixed costs were apportioned to him.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:28am
  - KevOB
    
    Does Tracy Watkins expect Leaders to stand around waiting for taxi or rental cars? Would her employer let her waste her time doing that?
    
    She shows the quality and implicit intent of this beat up: to take our eyes off something worse going on.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:56am
    - srylands
      
      Just as a comparator, in the Australian Parliament all MPs and Senators, including backbenchers, have generous access to a car and driver.
      
      https://maps.finance.gov.au/entitlements_handbooks/senators-and-members/Part_Four_Travel_-_4.3_Entitlements_to_Travel_by_Car_-_4
      
      There are 360 drivers and 160 high end cars. The service is available 24/7 to every MP.
      
      Of all the problems in New Zealand, the cost of transporting the Leader of the Opposition to the provinces is a fake problem generated by small minded fools.
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:09am
- Piniwi
  
  Right gorse it is the total irony in this hit job that is so hilarious for the majority. After trowing almost the surplus away to actually do something in the first 100 days the COL is now pleading polity and a shortage of funds. Essential in the wage demands as we noted with the nurses with so many repeating there is no more to be had. Now it is the teachers turn with those being followed by the other group having to deal with the sorry results of baby making being such a flourishing industry getting ready for more strikes. All made even more challenging as they have they have no idea of how much they don’t to slash around. They cast the die with outrages promises and hammering a bigger share in property manta never anticipating having to make good on those promises. Unfortunately by their own bungling the nurses deal set the bar higher than they fought to hold down so now the flood gates have opened completely. The other bad signal has been a rush of decisions made for the wrong reasons after pressure was applied by some minority added by the Media party and the SJW. We are currently waiting for the next big Captains call ahead of her visit to the UN to be broadcast if the baby fails to have them swooning. That primary ploy is barely an odds on favorite in a location where there might be a large female contingent but are unlikely the baby making kind or have even found a suitable letter to identify by. That little fiasco’s costs will make the bloated figure for Simon Bridges expenses look like just chump change as we are being preconditioned for this as they try appear frugal with their own expenses.
  Meanwhile there is now a new Infrastructure Minister who loves to claim personal success in his actions with the constant use and emphasis on “what I am, will or intented doing” rounded by telling those listening they can quote HIM on this. The irony is again heavier than some of the material needed to fill the infrastructure deficiency as the setting up will be a mere $5 million “sometime soon from somewhere yet to be decided.” It is so easy to understand the confusion when so many horses are trying to push their carts up hill as the passenger does what the horses do in clement weather. Point their arse into the wind.
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:51pm
Chuck Bird

Yet another case of a false complaint. I hope the name suppression will cease after sentencing. It is unfortunate that in a lot of cases of rape there is no evidence besides the woman’s word. That should not be enough evidence to put a man in jail for years. That is unless he has Labour Party connections.

False rape complaint after break up caused ‘anguish’

The woman, who has interim name suppression, appeared in the Wellington District Court this afternoon, where Judge Denys Barry listened to victim impact statements.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108916
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August 18, 2018 8:40am
- fernglas
  
  “It is unfortunate that in a lot of cases of rape there is no evidence besides the woman’s word.”
  
  Are you advocating for impartial observers at every act of sexual intercourse that takes place?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:00am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    What percentage of innocent men being convicted is acceptable to make sure the guilty get convicted?
    
    What penalty do you think is appropriate for a woman convicted for making a false complaint?
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:06am
    - GoVege
      
      There are probably way more girls raped where the criminal is never charged.
      It’s very unfortunate that there are a lot of devious women capable of making up such damaging lies.
      An unpalatable part of female nature.
      Some years ago a neighbour of mine told me she loaned a boyfriend a couple of grand which he wouldn’t repay.
      So she went into the police station and accused him of rape!
      Thankfully they kicked her out.
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:31am
      - DJ Ward
        
        You didn’t answer his questions.
        
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        August 18, 2018 12:10pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Isn’t that what Angry Andy wants? Contracts before every fuck, kiss, tickle, pat on the bum,….. Unless of course you are part of that scum that have sexual emergencies and can rape with gay abandon….
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:16am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      But the union man can come in, unannounced and uninvited to canvas for membership of the prostitutes collective!
      
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      August 18, 2018 1:33pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Legal systems can only operate with absolute honesty. Any level of lies causes corruption of its results. The right to be believed, a core belief of feminists in Labour. The guilty until proven innocent desires of those same feminists, is a horrifying thought. This guy was lucky, she was stupid as he had an alibi.
  This is very different from the right of a complaint to be listened too and taken seriously. Without bias to either party. Judges have helped convict men on the premise of ” who do you believe the most “. This is a vast step away from ” Beyond Reasonable Doubt”. The accused must prove thier innocence.
  
  He faced serous, minimum sentencing, post release conditions, long term monitoring, etc etc.
  She does not.
  Slight lack of fairness thier.
  
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  August 18, 2018 12:08pm
s.russell

Good column by John Roughan today: explains how teachers’ poor pay is their own fault for insisting on socialism on the education system.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108751
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August 18, 2018 8:47am
- Viking2
  
  Bang on the nail.
  Collective bargaining and other groups want to reinstate it.
  
  Why are educated people so bloody foolish.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:00am
  - holysheet
    
    I’ve often wondered why so many, so called “educated” people believe in god as well.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:10am
    - stephieboy
      
      And we can’t understand why many like you are stupefying ignorant!
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:10am
      - JibberJabber
        
        LoL @ the royal “we”, when Holy mentioned “educated” I doubt that he means that includes you.
        
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        August 18, 2018 10:16am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Stupefying is not an adverb.
        
        A correct version of your sentence:
        
        And we can’t understand why many like you are stupefyingly stupid.
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:06am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW ( English Usage warden), so Boris Johnson has got it wrong too?
        
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-says-donald-trump-betrays-a-stupefying-ignorance-that-makes-him-unfit-to-be-us-a6766871.html
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:23am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Stephie – do not take on an older woman regarding matters of grammar. Maggy is right and you are wrong. Boris’ “stupefying” qualifies a noun, which is why he is correct to use the adjectival form. Your “stupefying” qualified a verb, which is why you should have used the adverbial form.
        
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        August 18, 2018 12:05pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I see stephieboy has now changed stupid to ignorant in his sentence…
        
        @stephieboy
        Boris Johnson has got it wrong too?
        Of course he hasn’t. Albert Ross explains why.
        
        (ignorant is an adjective; ignorance is a noun)
        
        If you are going to abuse folks on this blog about being stupid or ignorant, then I’m happy to play the
        Grammar Guru role.
        
        @Albert Ross
        
        You are correct with your analysis of the Boris Johnson example…
        Adjectival form of stupefy to modify a noun,
        but incorrect with respect to stephieboy’s example.
        
        Stupid and ignorant are adjectives…
        
        Adverbs modify adjectives (as well as verbs and lots of other things)
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:08pm
      - VicParking
        
        Looked in a mirror lately stephie??
        
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        August 18, 2018 3:35pm
    - Nukuleka
      
      Holy Shit, what relevance does this comment have to the topic under discussion?
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:22am
      - holysheet
        
        This is GD dumb arse. Anything goes on here.
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:29pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Q. If Socialism does not work, then why do so many support it?
  A. Because they don’t work either
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:32am
Chuck Bird

A very good serious by a brave former Muslim

The Age of Aisha – Mohammed’s Child Bride (Pedophilia in Islam)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElM597LzxB8
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August 18, 2018 8:58am
- stephieboy
  
  Chuck Bird, false!
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:34am
  - Inandout
    
    The Guardian, LOL.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:35am
    - stephieboy
      
      Inandout, sure beats Daily Mail New York Post sleaze or Fox Faux News!
      
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      August 18, 2018 12:30pm
  - GoVege
    
    SB: the article ends mentioning “female autonomy “….for Muslim females!! LOL.
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:06am
- GoVege
  
  Thank you for that, Chuck.
  A few points:
  10 out of 12 rapists in Denmark are Muslim immigrants.
  Muslim men in Britain are having up to 20 children with their polygamous marriages.
  Won’t belong before westerners are outnumbered in their own land.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:00am
holysheet

Once there was a farmer. He had two teenage sons. This farmer had just inherited some of money from his brother’s recent death. He couldn’t decide which son he could send to college, since he could only afford to send one. This farmer also had two ducks. These ducks were retarded. They were only two ducks on the farm that weren’t normal. He told his sons that whoever could get the most money for the duck would go to college. The sons went out in attempt to collect as much money as they could. The first son was walking down the street when he passed a man working in the yard. The man asked him if the duck was for sale, for the man loved the taste of ducks.He offered the son 10 dollars for his duck. The son decided this was very good, so he took it. He decided his brother wouldn’t be able to get close to his success. The second son was walking and passed a whorehouse. He went in and said that he didn’t have any money, but he would give them the duck. One girl said fine. After they fucked, she decided that she didn’t want the duck anymore. The son said he would take the duck back if they fucked again. She agreed. After they fucked the second time, the son left. He was walking home, thinking about what to do with the duck when it broke the leash. The duck ran out into the street and was hit by a car. The lady that hit it jumped from her car and started apologising profusely. The son insisted it was ok, but the lady said she would pay for the duck. She was in a hurry, so she gave him 25 dollars and sped off. When the sons got home, the farmer asked the first son what he got. He proudly displayed the 10 dollars. The farmer was impressed. He asked the second son the same thing. “That’s nothing. I got a fuck for a duck, a duck for a fuck, and 25 dollars for a fucked up duck.”
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August 18, 2018 8:58am
- stephieboy
  
  holycrap, this is germane,
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPUfhcL7Tfo
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:33am
  - holysheet
    
    And there’s the answer why your brain is fucked. You have been holding in your farts for so long.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:12am
    - Nukuleka
      
      Holy Shit, such class, such erudition, such intellectual insight…
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:23am
Monique Watson

Life is like a pubic hair on a toilet seat. Hang on long enough and you eventually get pissed off.
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August 18, 2018 9:11am
Nookin

Tracey Watkins swallowed a dead rat when she conceded that Bridges’ recent tour was not the extravagant perk that others made it out to be. Unfortunately, the choke became too much for her and, having expelled the rat, she reverted to form and got into Bridges for both the enquiry and the cost. Her argument might have had more credibility if she had explained what alternative form of transport would have catered for the timetable and workload that she detailed.
Bridges may end up with egg on his face over the enquiry but I doubt it. If there is a festering sore in the National party then better that it is exposed now than in 18 months. Anyway, why would a disgruntled Nat be so stupid as to take a risk in releasing figures that were only days off release anyway? If there is such a stupid Nat, then the party needs to get rid of him/her asap..
If you are looking for motive, diversion from the publicity of relentless cock-ups is probably at the top of the list. Odds favour a staffer to O’Brien — possibly routed thru an NZF, Green or Labour MP.https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/106320290/tracy-watkins-bridges-doesnt-need-a-formal-inquiry-into-limogate
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August 18, 2018 9:12am
- artemisia
  
  It was reported in the MSM that party whips also received the information.
  
  The enquiry will determine if that is true, as there are conflicting reports, eg from the Prime Minister.
  
  If it is true, that changes the situation. I will say no more …. But take a look at who the whips are.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:58am
  - KevOB
    
    There are whips also down in Vivian Street.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Nats have given permission to have their computers checked.
    I don’t think the Labour MPs have agreed to this.
    
    Parliamentary Services have confirmed that numerous people had access to the figures.
    
    However, Parliamentary Service had already confirmed both the Parliamentary Service General Manager and the Speaker had access to all MPs’ expenses, and it’s understood the Parliamentary Library and others within financial branches may have had access to the full suite of figures.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106241086/national-demands-independent-probe-into-simon-bridges-travel-expenses-leak
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:13am
- Paulus
  
  Maybe O’Brien looked after him or her in a special media way.
  Like the other Irish reporter “allegedly”sorted with Peter Dunn for information.
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:32pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Why has Winston Peters refused permission for his computer to be forensically examined? Is he the leaker?
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:10pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I wonder if Nigel Farage is coming to NZ to give a confessional owning up to his litany of sins?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/nigel-farage-announces-nz-show.html
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August 18, 2018 9:27am
- kowtow
  
  F . O . C .
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:48am
Jack5

What a bunch of milksop multiculturists the Brits have become. The land of Churchill …

British security people say they haven’t got concrete evidence the Sudanese Muslim who drove his car into people near Parliament has links with extremists, so “he may not be a terrorist.”

So it’s okay to mow people down, then.

From the Daily Mail:

Masood explicitly cited jihad as his motive for his attack in a WhatsApp message but there was nothing in any of Khater’s communications to suggest extremist ideology.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6072241/Westminster-crash-not-act-terror-theres-no-evidence-radicalised.html
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August 18, 2018 9:30am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Jack5, Churchill and other pomp and circumstance BS long gone.
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:54am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    But Marx and his useful idiots appear to be alive and well.
    
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    August 18, 2018 9:59am
- MT_Tinman
  
  “Mow people down”?
  
  He knocked a couple of roadlice off their bikes.
  
  He made no attempt to get away or to injure anyone after the crash.
  
  I suspect in this case that the explanation that he lost control and panicked is at least close to the truth.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:06am
  - holysheet
    
    Nah he mistook the letterbox for one of his wives, was distracted and hit the road lice.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:15am
  - Jack5
    
    He must be innocent Tinman. His brother says:
    
    “He would never do it because we are from Darfur, and extremism is our enemy, as it is your enemy and as it is the enemy of Islam.”/blockquote>
    
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    August 18, 2018 12:43pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5, yesterday you appear to suggest that the Arabs/ Muslims invented African slavery?
      
      http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/09/slavery_myths_seven_lies_half_truths_and_irrelevancies_people_trot_out_about.html
      
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      August 18, 2018 12:48pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, the blacks enslaved each other and continue to do so. The Muslims just did it better and in a more organised way.
        
        Millions of whites were also enslaved by North Africans – long long before whites briefly brought a few slaves from Africans to help out with some light gardening work.
        
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        August 18, 2018 12:54pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X:
        
        They’re still into slavery in Saudi Arabia.
        
        Do they still have human slaves in ☪️Stephiestan☪️ ???
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:03pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea,” millions of whites”??
        
        Citation, please ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Jack 5, just read my link and this one too,
        
        http://revealinghistories.org.uk/africa-the-arrival-of-europeans-and-the-transatlantic-slave-trade.html
        
        Try to be informed and choose not be ignorant from now on, please.
        
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        August 18, 2018 1:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy is imposing modern White Christian values about slavery onto black Africans and Muslims.
        
        It’s wacist.
        
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        August 18, 2018 2:18pm
      - VicParking
        
        “The Government of Saudi Arabia does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so. The government continues to lack adequate anti-trafficking laws, and, despite evidence of widespread trafficking abuses, did not report any criminal prosecutions, convictions, or prison sentences for trafficking crimes committed against foreign domestic workers. The government similarly did not take law enforcement action against trafficking for commercial sexual exploitation in Saudi Arabia, or take any steps to provide victims of sex trafficking with protection.”
        UN Report 2008
        
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        August 18, 2018 3:47pm
- kowtow
  
  We only get what the media want to give us.
  
  Latest is the media party’s coverage ( or lack of it) of the wave of arsons across Sweden .
  
  “Youths” , yeah right.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:51am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow, given full coverage by MSM,
    
    For example ,
    
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/world/europe/sweden-car-fires.html
    
    Unlike you, e local and other alt right media they don’t jump to conclusions like you.
    
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    August 18, 2018 12:54pm
- realityczech
  
  Who cares if he is labeled with the term “terrorist”. Terror is an emotion, not an action. What matters are his actions.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:01am
- KevOB
  
  The quality of evidence is not strained
  It droppeth as the gentle rains through filters.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:01am
- realityczech
  
  Jacksie, you sound tense. Trying listening to some relaxing music. I find it helps.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:35am
  - Jack5
    
    ? Greetings, ‼️Kearealityczech‼️
    
    So we’re going to have a fun day on General Debate.
    
    Thanks for the 卐EADolf meditation music.
    
    To give you something different, how about these strong sheilas?
    
    https://youtu.be/tw7ssmUm-h8
    
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    August 18, 2018 12:30pm
    - realityczech
      
      Jacksie, these lads appear to have been reading your KB comments for inspiration.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3fMaBdWD8
      
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      August 18, 2018 12:37pm
DigNap15

Todays Maori Vocabulary lesson from my printed Maori dictionary.

“communications” Not there!

Sorry, we probably will have to wait for others to post a made up word.
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August 18, 2018 9:40am
- stephieboy
  
  DipNap15 , published when and by whom?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:44am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Can’t you remember what you have read?
    Dignaps has already told us (s)he is using Biggs.
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_16_august_2018.html#comment-2283122
    2 days ago you left a comment after his/her posting.
    
    English–Māori, Māori–English Dictionary (Biggs, 1990)
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:31am
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes that’s the one I am using.
      I really wanted to get hold of a few other earlier ones.
      Any recommendations?
      
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      August 18, 2018 10:35am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I have a 7th edition of H.W. Williams: A Dictionary of the Maori Language.
        
        There have been numerous corrections over the editions… so I’d try and purchase the latest Edition.
        
        Trouble is it is Maori – English only.
        
        I also have a pocket edition of H.M. Ngata 1993: English-Maori dictionary….
        This does seem to contain some of the words missing from your Biggs.
        
        For an online Maori Dictionary.. Try:
        http://maoridictionary.co.nz/
        Put out by Te Ipukarea – The National Maori Language Institute.
        
        I’ve usually been able to sort words out just using Williams or Ngata…. but in a pinch I ask my fluent mates.
        
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        August 18, 2018 10:53am
      - stephieboy
        
        DigNap15, my online dictionary appears capable of answering most of your queries,
        
        http://maoridictionary.co.nz
        
        My main impression is that you are attempting to find ways of belittling and denigrating Te Reo Maori.
        
        Correct?
        
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        August 18, 2018 12:35pm
- Inandout
  
  WINZ there?
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:34am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout and KevOB, otherwise know as racial stereotyping. and denigrating!
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/80448132/Ashburton-Work-and-Income-shooter-Russell-John-Tully-sentenced-to-life-with-27-years-non-parole
    
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    August 18, 2018 12:37pm
    - realityczech
      
      stupidboy, racial stereotyping is proven to work reliably. However us normal folk will continue to speak as we find and give people a fair go. That is how it works outside of your left wing Islamic fantasy world.
      
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      August 18, 2018 12:41pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Kea ,Russell John Tully was a WINZ customer and I believe on a benefit!
        
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        August 18, 2018 12:56pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, no wonder he could not get a handout or even an appointment. He was too White.
        
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        August 18, 2018 2:20pm
    - KevOB
      
      You need to recognise the Maori language is in its death throes. Unlike others in Polynesia it’s fossilised.
      
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      August 18, 2018 3:32pm
- KevOB
  
  palanaketisimoki
  tirumi
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:04am
  - KevOB
    
    Blanket smoke
    Drum
    
    Illustrating the extensibility of Maori.
    
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    August 18, 2018 3:33pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  What exactly are you trying to demonstrate with these posts?
  
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  August 18, 2018 12:08pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  …we probably will have to wait for others to post a made up word.
  
  Ah, I see. Your schtick is that if Maori didn’t have a word for a particular thing at some point in the past and had to create one for it, that’s a “made-up” word, as though English sprang fully-formed from the head of Zeus or was created by God on the eighth day or something. Why would you want to parade your ignorance and bigotry for a national audience?
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:07pm
  - KevOB
    
    When there are so few root words the language has been considered by kaumatua as not suitable for their people for the future.
    
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    August 18, 2018 3:44pm
Monique Watson

“Fuck you and your hairy Cornhole”, the latest legend on our Fridge.
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August 18, 2018 9:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, the F and other expletives standard fare around the family dinner table?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:52am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Yap, yap, no post left unbarked at.
    Up your game halfwit.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:02am
  - holysheet
    
    Beats all the alah akbar shit around yours.
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:18am
  - Longknives
    
    Stephieboy- It seems to offend you that Monique is clearly a strong woman who doesn’t trundle round in a Garbage sack subservient to her husband..
    
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    August 18, 2018 10:41am
secondcumming

Morning all……

I found my first grey pubic hair last night. Normally things like that wouldn’t worry me, but it was in my Big Mac.
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August 18, 2018 10:19am
- holysheet
  
  What are teenyboppers dyeing their pubes now?
  I thought everything old and gray was out.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:23am
Viking2

Warwick Roger has died.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/106376891/metro-magazine-founder-warwick-roger-dies
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August 18, 2018 10:31am
- Jade Warrior
  
  Very sad news indeed. When I was a teenager I used to devour Metro magazine. I think I learned more about good English writing from his magazine than any English textbook. I still have a few old copies from Metro’s golden age (1987 through to 1995) and when I read them now I still get depressed about what passes for investigative journalism in our media today.
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:39am
  - big bruv
    
    Very sad about Warick Roger. I was a subscriber to Metro during it’s glory years, the new monthly edition was eagerly anticipated and as eagerly devoured once it arrived. RIP
    
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    August 18, 2018 12:10pm
- harrygee
  
  A largely unassuming giant in his old age, and a true national treasure. He would eat for breakfast 95% of the upstarts who these days pass themselves off as “journalists”.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:54am
DigNap15

Very sad, I used to enjoy that magazine
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August 18, 2018 10:36am
Kabull

Did anyone attend the Cornell West & Douglas Murray debate last night? Having heard Murray with Leighton Smith yesterday I would be interested to know how well he was received. He is another who speaks the truth that no-one wants to hear.
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August 18, 2018 11:30am
- Morrissey
  
  Leighton Smith, then Cornel West. Bit of a jump in class there.
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:40pm
Monique Watson

Me today:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=815Id8Mabe8
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August 18, 2018 12:00pm
BananaLlama

My partner informed me that MPI are now allowed to conduct searches of our farm without warrant for any reason they please. Is this true? do they have any oversight or can they show up and just conduct a search as they please?.
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August 18, 2018 12:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/106354345/law-changes-give-mpi-more-power-in-wake-of-cattle-disease
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:14pm
  - Jack5
    
    Is MPI responsible for standards and enforcement that allowed Mycoplasma bovis into the country?
    
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    August 18, 2018 1:16pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      Yes.
      They also failed to contain it and now resort to draconian measures as a response. Gang members have more of a right to due process than farmers in this country thanks to MPI.
      I really hope they aren’t so arrogant to turn up unannounced and carry out search and seizure of livestock and property.
      
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      August 18, 2018 1:24pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Most probably BananaLlama. There was a lot said on KB yesterday when MPI having access with a warrant was announced. What is more, MPI can enter your home to access your farm records. National have been asking questions also about union reps having the right to access homes on farms. The reply from the PM Select is yes if there are union members to be seen.
        
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        August 18, 2018 3:10pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  I would suggest you ask MOI direct.
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:19pm
Fletch

Two American liberals who believed that evil was more-or-less a made up concept, went biking near ISIS and got stabbed to death.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/34581/american-couple-believing-evil-make-believe-hank-berrien
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August 18, 2018 12:29pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Evolution in action. Dopey idealism can kill.
  
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  August 18, 2018 2:10pm
- Longknives
  
  When I was working in Johannesburg my African driver (Courtesy cab through work) took me for a drive out to show me Soweto.
  He told me the story of a couple of pretty young blonde girls who were equally as idealistic as those two American Vegans- They wanted to ‘Dance with the children in Soweto’ and ‘Make a change’ etc etc
  Apparently people in Joburg (White and Black alike) pleaded with them not to go there- Warning them how fucking dangerous it was.
  Predictably- They met an even worse end than those two cyclists..
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:04pm
  - Piniwi
    
    By contrast Longknives my old mate who is as white as chalk toured around lot supporting the All Blacks tour some years ago and had a ball of a time in some of those far flung villages. Modern Africa is a whole different place and now 13000 platinum miners look like loosing their jobs as the mine struggles to survive.
    
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    August 18, 2018 4:13pm
wiseowl

They can just show up.
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August 18, 2018 12:30pm
- BananaLlama
  
  That’s fucking outrageous then. I can see this ending really badly for someone.
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:00pm
Fletch

A new social phenomenon – ‘Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria’. It’s basically teens succumbing to peer pressure to be trans because it is trendy…

A new study published in PLOS One:

In on-line forums, parents have been reporting that their children are experiencing what is described here as “rapid-onset gender dysphoria,” appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. The onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of belonging to a peer group where one, multiple, or even all of the friends have become gender dysphoric and transgender-identified during the same timeframe. Parents also report that their children exhibited an increase in social media/internet use prior to disclosure of a transgender identity.

∘ A 12-year-old natal female was bullied specifically for going through early puberty and the responding parent wrote “as a result she said she felt fat and hated her breasts.” She learned online that hating your breasts is a sign of being transgender. She edited her diary (by crossing out existing text and writing in new text) to make it appear that she has always felt that she is transgender.

∘ A 14-year-old natal female and three of her natal female friends were taking group lessons together with a very popular coach. The coach came out as transgender, and, within one year, all four students announced they were also transgender.

∘ A natal female was traumatized by a rape when she was 16 years of age. Before the rape, she was described as a happy girl; after the rape, she became withdrawn and fearful. Several months after the rape, she announced that she was transgender and told her parents that she needed to transition.

∘ A 21-year-old natal male who had been academically successful at a prestigious university seemed depressed for about six months. Since concluding that he was transgender, he went on to have a marked decline in his social functioning and has become increasingly angry and hostile to his family. He refuses to move out or look for a job. His entire family, including several members who are very supportive of the transgender community, believe that he is “suffering from a mental disorder which has nothing to do with gender.”

∘ A 14-year-old natal female and three of her natal female friends are part of a larger friend group that spends much of their time talking about gender and sexuality. The three natal female friends all announced they were trans boys and chose similar masculine names. After spending time with these three friends, the 14-year-old natal female announced that she was also a trans boy.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria/
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August 18, 2018 12:33pm
- MH
  
  The Fat Angel
  
  Lyricist：Apols to Donovan Phillips Leitch
  
  they will bring happiness in a pipe
  He’ll ride away with a silver dyke
  And apart from that he’ll be so kind
  In consenting to change their mind
  
  Fly Transgender love Airways
  Get you there on time
  Fly Transgender love Airways
  Get you there on time
  
  He will bring orchids for her lady
  The perfume will be of an excellent style
  And apart from that he’ll be so kind
  If you stay long enough
  In consenting we’ll change your mind
  
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  August 18, 2018 12:49pm
realityczech

Bob Jones was ahead of his time in the way he afforded journalists the respect they deserve.

Love the photo. Imagine that was John Campbell 🙂

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11434172
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  I love the old footage of the Snap Election in ’84-
  That computer at the National Party HQ!!! Brilliant…
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:18pm
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    Things were more exciting back then.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfMW-XNI4U
    
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      Compare this debate with the halfwits we have now. Funny thing is Lange’s government was substantively to the right of Muldoon. Ole Muldoon was an old school socialist. I think they actually meant what they said back then.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFW-_eMa94Q
      
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      August 18, 2018 4:21pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Don’t laugh … Deadbeat Dunedin of all places … out of land !!! …

Dippie critical of Dunedin district plan … Otago Daily Times

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dippie-critical-dunedin-district-plan

A leading Otago developer has criticised Dunedin’s new district plan.

Allan Dippie said yesterday a lack of greenfields sites meant it would be a struggle to generate the property development the city needed.

Mr Dippie, who has developed residential subdivisions in areas including Wanaka and Mosgiel, said the city needed residential-zoned land for developers to build on. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Housing Minister Phil Twyford knows EXACTLY what the problems and solutions are …

Reality check for Ministers (really some … just some … asleep enviros) at environment conference | Politik

http://politik.co.nz/en/content/Environment/1400/Reality-check-for-Ministers-at-environment-conference-Environmental-Defence-Society-Gary-Taylor-Phil-Twyford-David-Parker-RMA.htm

… extract …

… Attendees probably left last night with more questions than when they arrived as Ministers, who in Opposition had seemed sympathetic to environmental issues were left qualifying and modifying their stance on major issues.

This was starkly evident in an exchange between Urban Development Minister, Phil Twyford, and the EDS CEO, Gary Taylor over urban sprawl.

Twyford had set out an impassioned description of the impact of high house prices in Auckland and advocated the linking together of transport and other infrastructure and new housing developments.

But he also advocated the scrapping or urban-rural limits.

“We believe that we have to manage growth on the fringes of the city,” he said.

“If we do not allow new land to come into the supply we will never ever fix the problem of absurdly expensive urban land.

“With good investment in infrastructure and transport, with more planning, not less to create the future urban environment that we want, setting aside areas of special value and open spaces, acquiring land for transport and other infrastructure, if we then allow the city to grow we will bring down urban land prices and it is absolutely critical that we do,” he said.

Twyford had proposed this when he was in Opposition but, even so, any suggestion that more rural land was going to be absorbed for housing was going to be controversial at an environmental conference.

And Taylor was quick to respond.

“Everything makes sense except I worry about why you need to do away with rural-urban boundaries altogether,” said Taylor.

He said that giving free reign to developers seemed inconsistent with Twyford’s overall objective of having a compact city.

Twyford replied that it was a question of values.

“This is for us, for Labour, for our coalition government, this is fundamentally a social justice issue.

“Our objective is not to build a Copenhagen of the South Pacific.

“We could build a beautiful city with a whole lot of the policies we have talked about.

“We could build a Vancouver of the South Pacific; beautiful but utterly unaffordable.

“I’m interested in us fixing this totally dysfunctional urban land economy.

“If we don’t deal with affordability we will have completely wasted the opportunity that has been given to our generation.”

Twyford said the only way to deal with the affordability issue was to deal with the land price issue and that meant dealing with the artificial scarcity of land caused by the planning system and the availability of finance for infrastructure.

However he didn’t dispute that the Auckland region was going to become more heavily built up.

“You know what,” he said. “In two or three generations this is going to become a tri-city conurbation between Hamilton, Tauranga and Auckland whether we like it or not.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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… BUT … where is the ACTION ? …

Govt criticised for moving slowly on Auckland (and other metros) growth boundary | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary
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… what lessons are being learned from Greater Christchurch ( with the GREATS being the adjoining smaller and therefore functional units of local government … Waimakariri and Selwyn … inlike the bureaucratic basket case of Christchurch) …

Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  UNITED KINGDOM: Fears grow as house prices fall at fastest rate since financial crisis … Infosurhoy
  
  http://infosurhoy.com/cocoon/saii/xhtml/en_GB/top-stories/fears-grow-as-house-prices-fall-at-fastest-rate-since-financial-crisis/
  
  Fears are growing that Britain’s property bubble is about to burst.
  
  A string of indicators last night triggered concerns that the market is running out of steam – and could be heading for a correction or even a crash.
  
  Prices in London are falling at the fastest pace since the financial crisis – but the declines are not limited to the capital. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  London house prices suffer largest drop in nine years … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/08/15/london-house-prices-suffer-largest-drop-nine-years/
  
  House prices in London fell 0.7pc in the 12 months to June – the largest annual fall in the city’s house prices since September 2009.
  
  Three of London’s central boroughs had double-digit drops in prices as the reversal in the capital’s fortunes continued. The City of London fell 23.8pc, Kensington and Chelsea dropped 13.9pc and the City of Westminster slid 12.1pc, according to data from the Office for National Statistics and the Land Registry. … read more via hyperlink above … (behind paywall) …
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  Is Britain’s property bubble about to burst? Fears grow as house prices fall at the fastest rate since the financial crisis and sales tumble by 65 per cent … UK Daily Mail
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6064685/Fears-grow-house-prices-fall-fastest-rate-financial-crisis.html
  
  • Prices in London are falling at the fastest pace since the financial crisis
  
  • Declines not limited to the capital with houses losing value in various towns
  
  • Houses prices have enjoyed almost a decade of strong growth since the crash
  
  • Experts warned that prices have risen too far in parts of the country recently … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  nurse…
  Nurse….
  NURSE !!!!
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:33pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    AUSTRALIA: Slowing housing market and falling prices welcome, RBA governor Philip Lowe says …
    
    Slowing housing market and falling prices welcome, RBA governor Philip Lowe says – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-17/rba-governor-philip-lowe-testimony-to-parliamentary-committee/10129618
    
    Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe says falling house prices and a weaker property market, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne, are welcome developments. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Phil Lowe welcomes falling house prices – MacroBusiness Australia
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/phil-lowe-welcomes-falling-house-prices/
    
    (New South Wales Premier) Gladys Berejiklian ‘extremely comfortable’ with falling Sydney house prices | afr.com
    … behind paywall …
    
    https://www.afr.com/real-estate/gladys-berejiklian-extremely-comfortable-with-falling-sydney-house-prices-20180724-h132q8
    
    NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian is “extremely comfortable” with where house prices in Sydney have gone and expects the recent slide in Sydney house prices is a welcome turn of events for those trying to break into the market. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    House prices falling in 98% of Sydney and Melbourne suburbs – MacroBusiness
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/house-prices-falling-in-98-of-sydney-and-melbourne-suburbs/
    
    Via Herald Sun:
    
    SYDNEY and Melbourne have been the powerhouse for Australia’s booming property market but a new report shows only 17 suburbs across the two cities are seeing increased prices.
    
    With just a handful of suburbs among Sydney’s 700 showing steady rises in property values, experts say this continues to highlight a steady downward trend that’s been under way for three years. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    RBA chief Phillip Lowe slams banks over their behaviour: ‘I have been appalled’ … Sydney Morning Herald
    
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/i-have-been-appalled-rba-chief-slams-banks-over-their-behaviour-20180817-p4zy2w.html
    
    Reserve Bank Governor Philip Lowe has lashed out at Australia’s banking system, telling a Parliamentary committee he has been “appalled” by the behaviour revealed in the banking royal commission … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    THE URBAN CONTAINMENT EFFECT (ZONING EFFECT) ON AUSTRALIAN HOUSE PRICES (RBA DISCUSSION PAPER) … WENDELL COX … NEW GEOGRAPHY
    
    http://www.newgeography.com/content/005921-the-urban-containment-effect-zoning-effect-australian-house-prices
    
    … extract …
    
    • In Sydney, the urban containment effect adds $489,000 to the house price making the annual mortgage payments $29,000 higher. Figure 4 shows the components of the average house price in Sydney.
    
    • In Melbourne, the urban containment effect adds $324,000 to the house price, making the annual mortgage payments $19,000 higher.
    
    • In Brisbane, the urban containment effect adds $159,000 to the house price, making the annual mortgage payments $9,000 higher.
    
    • In Perth, the urban containment effect adds $206,000 to the house price, making the annual mortgage payments $12,000 higher.
    
    • No data is available for Adelaide, but the present median multiple (median house price divided by median household income) suggests that urban containment effect adds at least $13,000 to the mortgage. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    August 19, 2018 3:04am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
      
      … extract …
      
      … How on earth do we do that?
      
      It’s easier than you might think.
      
      Let’s break down a home into its three core components: the building itself, the infrastructure (including consenting) and the land.
      
      Starting with the building, it currently costs around $2000/sq m to build a simple standalone home in Auckland. Apartments are more, say from $2500-$4000/sq m depending on how complex.
      
      That means a moderate 150sq m standalone home or a not-very-family-friendly 100sq m apartment will max out the $300,000 limit of the bottom quartile.
      
      So build costs have to come down.
      
      KiwiBuild will be a big asset in this regard. The scale at which KiwiBuild is being delivered is already attracting investment in off-site manufacturing, standardisation and much greater building efficiency.
      
      Our target should be $1200sq m, which would bring us more into line with overseas.
      
      This means our 150sq m home will cost $180,000, giving us $120,000 for infrastructure and land.
      
      Looking at land, KiwiBuild is interesting because the Government is targeting much redevelopment on Crown land, which is very difficult to value. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      The Houston example shows a (NZ)$300,000 ( circa US$ 200,000 ) home is more than feasible.
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      Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build
      
      …extract …
      
      … Generation Homes is building 300 to 400 houses a year. We could easily double that within our existing resources if there were infrastructure funding assistance from councils for new affordable housing developments. …
      
      … To get real efficiency and to be able to build affordable houses, building companies need to be building 50 to 100 houses or more in one development.
      
      This productivity problem is forced upon builders and we need creative solutions to address it. … read more via hyperlink above …
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      Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome | interest.co.nz
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not
      
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? A morsel for ‼️Krealityczech‼️

The Jewish Telegraphic Agency take on chief Trump hater Amy Siskind.

KRC, could ✡️Donald Trump✡️ be part-Jewish through his German grandfather?

Does this change your love of Trumpy, KRC?

https://www.jta.org/2018/08/16/news-opinion/amy-siskind-has-been-called-a-face-of-the-anti-trump-resistance-liberal-critics-claim-she-is-an-impostor
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- realityczech
  
  Jacksie, No idiot.
  
  When It Comes to Jewish Connections, Trump Trumps His GOP Competitors
  
  Not only is the outspoken Republican U.S. presidential candidate’s right-hand man a Jewish lawyer, but Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, converted to Judaism.
  
  Trump is from New York, works in professions saturated with Jews and long has been a vocal supporter of Israel. His daughter and two grandchildren are Jewish, the executive vice president of his organization is Jewish — and Trump certainly has chutzpah.
  
  https://www.haaretz.com/the-deep-jewish-ties-of-donald-trump-1.5384499
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:37pm
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    The parrot nods, in danger of falling off perch …
    
    ‼️Krzcech‼️
    
    If you want to insult someone you gotta include the comma!
    
    Krczech, no, idiot.
    is a near-opposite to:
    
    Krczech, no idiot.
    
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    August 18, 2018 5:27pm
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      Funny how most of your comments are inline with Nazi policy about immigration and race. Just as the race purist Israeli State is.
      
      See for yourself. All points you support with Israel and the West. You just replace Jew with Goyim/Muslim:
      
      1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
      
      2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.
      
      3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
      
      4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
      
      5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
      
      6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.
      
      We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
      
      http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
      
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      August 18, 2018 6:01pm
redeye

The Sydney Morning Herald has an article about the arrest of the killers of Mick Hawi the Ex-President of the Comancheros in Aus.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mick-hawi-was-assassinated-over-financial-motive-police-20180818-p4zy95.html

Yusuf Nazlioglu and Ahmad Doudar were arrested on Friday, mid-haircut, at a Bexley barber shop. Both were charged with murder, and Mr Doudar cried when he was arrested.

Later that evening, Moustafa Salami was arrested during a dinner at a Balmain restaurant, and was later charged with accessory after the fact to murder.

Mr Ahmad Zipity Doudar was a crier?
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August 18, 2018 1:10pm
Jack5

Islamic group claims exemption from Australian law:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-18/islamic-leader-accused-of-land-clearing-claims-exempt-from-law/10133930
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August 18, 2018 1:14pm
- DigNap15
  
  This is how muslim groups operate, get a bit here, a bit there, an exemption here and exemption there, and entitlement here, and entitlement there.
  Well they all need to be told to F off back to their desert shit holes!
  
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  August 18, 2018 1:59pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    “religious practice does not fall outside the law,”
    Will be interesting to see if Switzerland holds fast to it’s stand against bigotry.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/18/muslim-couple-denied-swiss-citizenship-over-handshake-refusal
    
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    August 18, 2018 2:45pm
- realityczech
  
  The Jews have been screaming, and getting, lots of special exceptions to Aussie law. They want to be able to determine what the filthy subhuman goyim are allowed to say.
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:39pm
MCos

This morning I heard Nigel Farage interviewed on RNZ.
Most of the eighteen minutes was taken up, as you’d expect, with Brexit and was fairly predictable.
I was interested to hear him say he believed in populism, which suits his style of appealing to the masses, of course.
Basically he believes the direction of the country should be determined by voters who are as ill informed as possible.
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August 18, 2018 2:10pm
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  Basically he believes the direction of the country should be determined by voters who are as ill informed as possible.
  
  Bet he thinks our MSM is doing a fabulous job.
  
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  August 18, 2018 2:13pm
- realityczech
  
  I was interested to hear him say he believed in populism, which suits his style of appealing to the masses, of course.
  
  Funny thing with you lefties, whenever someone who does not share your views wants to speak:
  
  • People should not be able to say things because it is not popular with the majority.
  
  And
  
  • They should not be able to say things because it is popular with the majority.
  
  We saw this incoherent tactic used with Lauren and Stefan.
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:43pm
Jack5

Political correct wimpery. That’s what Leftist journo Philip Matthews delivers in the Christchurch Press today on “what it means to be a man”.

And he isn’t talking about trans-genderism.

In the first few paragraphs Matthews mentions Clarke Gayford twice, and a takes a swipe at “dinosaur-like, old white male chauvinism.”

Matthews is reporting on what will be the first of a series of meetings for men, called “Hard-ly Speaking”.

The first meeting entails six men talking about their lives over whisky, wine, and food. One of them will be Labour MP Duncan Webb. Others are: a Maori health worker, a young Polynesian, a Christchurch liquor retailer, the principal of Christ’s College, and the owner of a PR company.

In his sizeable plug for the talk series in the space-strapped newspaper, Matthews includes this:

University of Canterbury senior chaplain Spanky Moore says he finds it hard to work out what it means to be a man these days.

“I totally get that the male voice has often been a privileged one, but regardless of that, most men I know struggle to be honest about their fears and failures, and vulnerable with each other about how they feel,” Moore says. “I think challenging our men to go deeper than sports and DIY can only be a good thing for Christchurch.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/106066346/men-talk-to-men-about-being-men
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August 18, 2018 2:50pm
- Longknives
  
  I’m a stay at home Dad- Been doing it a lot longer than that fucking Clarke Gayford too..
  Hence I take offence at the notion that the Media’s favourite sleazy fame-whore is some kind of ‘Groundbreaker’ or ‘Role Model’ for stay at home Dads…
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Spanky for a Chaplain’s name?
  
  Tell me you are jesting.
  
  he finds it hard to work out what it means to be a man these days.
  
  The hubby tried this number….I set him straight..
  doing the dishes/changing lightbulbs/cleaning cat litter out/house-painting/backing trailers.
  
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  August 18, 2018 3:49pm
  - Morrissey
    
    “Spanky for a Chaplain’s name?”
    
    Sounds a bit like Father Gropious….
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/01/general_debate_4_january_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2110730
    
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    August 18, 2018 4:33pm
    - Jack5
      
      Spanky Moore, the university chaplain, says “Spanky” comes from his time with a punk rock band, Clown Dog.
      
      That group’s signature tune was The Sausage Song.
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/christchurch-life/10337513/Spankys-cooler-than-your-average-chaplain
      
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      August 18, 2018 5:08pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        That group’s signature tune was The Sausage Song.
        
        STOP…
        No more information.
        
        I am sorry for asking.
        
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        August 18, 2018 5:13pm
- realityczech
  
  Jacksie, I bet Gaylord has smashed more pussy than you ever will sunshine ☀
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:45pm
  - Jack5
    
    Yeah (sigh), and now Gaylord’s got the big cat. No wonder he always seems to have a grin.?
    
    These New Agers will talk about all of house-husbanding, not just hoe-vering.
    
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    August 18, 2018 4:56pm
  - Longknives
    
    Gayford probably does have better numbers than I do- Considering he has bragged about ‘Hundreds’ etc…(It was quality over quantity in my day!)
    But Jesus Christ- He married an absolute horse!
    *I’ll take my beautiful blonde wife over that dreadful looking creature he shacked up with any day..
    
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    August 18, 2018 5:06pm
    - realityczech
      
      Gayford gets to go fishing and rooting around all he wants. The help can take care of the spore.
      
      If you ask me the crafty bugger is having a laugh.
      
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      August 18, 2018 6:03pm
      - Longknives
        
        Oh this Gayford character is having a laugh all right.
        Does she know though? One would assume she is aware?..
        
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        August 18, 2018 6:07pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yeah she know alright. She won’t call him out on it though cause she likes a bit of rough and it would harm her image.
        
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        August 18, 2018 6:56pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Where does this idea of him getting lots of pussy come from?
    Is there any proof or admission?
    
    I mean is he really a babe magnet?
    
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    August 18, 2018 6:35pm
Morrissey

Norman Finkelstein to Dame Margaret Hodge: ‘You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about’

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/08/16/norman-finkelstein-to-dame-margaret-hodge-you-havent-a-clue-what-youre-talking-about/
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August 18, 2018 3:37pm
Morrissey

Seven fools have opted for ignorance. May you be stuck for three days in Hell’s Waiting Room with Dame Margaret Hodge for company.
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August 18, 2018 4:17pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha your hero Finkelstein would have been right at home at a table with Himmler, Goebbels and Eichmann!
  *Let’s not forget this piece of fucking shit openly supported the ‘Charlie Hebdo’ murderers…
  
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  August 18, 2018 4:38pm
  - Morrissey
    
    No he didn’t you fool. Have you considered running for ACT?
    
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    August 18, 2018 4:39pm
    - Longknives
      
      “Have you considered running for ACT?”
      
      Never thought about getting into Politics- You think I should??
      I’m probably a bit ‘Right’ of National….
      
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      August 18, 2018 5:03pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I was alluding to your hatefulness and ignorance. You sound like Jamie Whyte.
        
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        August 18, 2018 5:05pm
      - Longknives
        
        ‘Ignorance’ of what?
        History??
        
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        August 18, 2018 5:14pm
      - starboard
        
        Beaten your boyfriend today morris ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 8:26pm
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      ACT far to the centre for those like Longknives.
      
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      August 18, 2018 7:01pm
      - starboard
        
        Beatin your goat today, shariaboy ?
        
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        August 18, 2018 8:27pm
  - realityczech
    
    Ha Ha your hero Finkelstein would have been right at home at a table with Himmler, Goebbels and Eichmann!
    
    Norman Gary Finkelstein (/ˈfɪŋkəlˌsteɪn/; born December 8, 1953) is an American political scientist, activist, professor, and author. His primary fields of research are the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and the politics of the Holocaust, an interest motivated by the experiences of his parents who were Jewish Holocaust survivors.
    
    Finkelstein has written of his Jewish parents’ experiences during World War II. His mother, Maryla Husyt, grew up in Warsaw, survived the Warsaw Ghetto, the Majdanek concentration camp, and two slave labor camps. Her first husband died in the war. She considered the day of her liberation as the most horrible day of her life, as she realized that she was alone, her parents and siblings gone. Norman’s father, Zacharias Finkelstein, active in Hashomer Hatzair, was a survivor of both the Warsaw Ghetto and the Auschwitz concentration camp.[7]
    
    Wiki
    
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    August 18, 2018 4:47pm
    - Longknives
      
      I liken it to ‘White Guilt’ types who are bizarrely happy for their own culture to be erased from History…
      
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      August 18, 2018 5:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        You mean like the Germans who spoke up about the excesses of the Nazi Party. Such as Erwin Rommel?
        
        Was that “White Guilt” too?
        
        The Israeli states actions are an offense to all decent minded people. They should be stopped using any and all means.
        
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        August 18, 2018 6:07pm
Morrissey

Aaron Bastani on Margaret Hodge’s comments: “A series of increasingly absurd propositions.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv43zr2xQhg
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August 18, 2018 4:55pm
- realityczech
  
  Hang in there Morris Dancer. The one thing zionist bigots fear most is the truth. The entire Jewish story fed to the goyim is based on lies and manipulations. If the goyim ever knew the truth then Jews would be treated as ordinary people, the thought of this fills Jews with disgust.
  
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  August 18, 2018 6:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Green MPs not listening to old timers
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106380985/waka-jumping-former-mps-hopes-greens-conference-will-make-party-pull-support
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August 18, 2018 5:39pm
realityczech

As Jews, we reject the myth that it’s antisemitic to call Israel racist

In such urgent times, it is more important than ever to distinguish between legitimate critiques of unjust Israeli policies and ‘hostility to Jews as Jews’

A worldwide coalition of Jewish groups has issued a joint statement condemning attempts to stifle criticism of Israel with false accusations of antisemitism.

The statement, which 40 Jewish groups from 15 different countries have signed, could not have been more timely. In the UK, the Labour Party is currently under pressure to adopt the full guidelines accompanying a definition of antisemitism from the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA).

Labour adopted the 38-word definition long ago.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/antisemitisim-jews-israel-labour-party-bds-jewish-coalition-palestine-a8458601.html
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August 18, 2018 6:13pm
wreck1080

The sense of entitlement is strong in these beneficiaries…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/106354378/housing-new-zealand-family-sleeps-on-living-room-floor-to-keep-warm

What whiners….plenty of people who own their own homes have more air leaks.

I don’t believe any of their stories.
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August 18, 2018 6:16pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From the article:
  
  “All we hear from Housing NZ is: ‘We’re sorry about that, there is someone on their way’. No one comes. They are dealing with a vulnerable family already. We don’t need this. The blankets we sleep in are damp in the morning, that’s how much wetness is in the house from that one stupid door. All we get is excuse after excuse.”
  
  Meanwhile some people sleep on the streets because they can’t afford a car to sleep in.
  
  Housing New Zealand area manager Darragh O’Loughlin said he had worked with the tenant and her family for some time to make sure they were suitably housed.
  
  “This is a four-year-old, modern, warm and dry family home, fitted with carpets, thermal drapes, range hood and extractor fan. It sits in a sunny location,” O’Loughlin said.
  
  Sounds lovely, really!
  
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  August 18, 2018 6:42pm
DigNap15

Simon Wilson thinks National need to move more to the left to win next time!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12107360

The guy is a f…wit.
What do you think?
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August 18, 2018 6:32pm
- stephieboy
  
  DigNap5, with you someone like you on board with your bizarre set of beliefs the Nats would face total annihilation.
  
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  August 18, 2018 7:10pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Can you tell me about my bizzare set of beliefs.
    Can you list them?
    
    What are your beliefs
    Are they bizarre or normal.
    
    Why did you get 8 down ticks?
    
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    August 18, 2018 8:43pm
Monique Watson

Haha. You’re only young once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk
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August 18, 2018 7:05pm
- niggly
  
  Classic!
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:27pm
realityczech

Why Jews Need To Stop Using the Word ‘Christian’ as a Slur

There is a widespread but little-mentioned problem in Judaism today: namely, the derisive dismissal of Reform Jews by the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox. This often takes the form of slurs and insults. One of the most noxious and oft-repeated of these is the assertion that Reform Jews are not really Jews, but Christians.

As a Reform rabbi with a master’s degree in Christianity, I could argue for hours about why this is wrong, with basic, objective facts. Reform Jews do not, for example, subscribe to the basic tenets of Christianity: that Jesus was the incarnate son of God, come to save sinners from their innate sinfulness, resurrected after his death on the cross. We do not believe that Mary was a virgin, or that she gave birth to the Messiah in the form of Jesus Christ. In short, we do not subscribe to any of the basic tenets of Christian theology. Especially in Israel, where this insult is most prevalent, such facts don’t seem to stem the abuse.
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August 18, 2018 7:11pm
realityczech

Seems no one likes you Christians, but the hate burns strongest in the Jews.

Do Jews Have a Jesus Problem?

The joke, if that’s what it is, goes like this: “You’ll have to forgive us Jews for being a little nervous. Two thousand years of Christian love have worn down our nerves.”

That says it all, doesn’t it? The scars of antisemitism and missionary activity, the pathos-drenched sense of humor, the contempt for Christianity — this is certainly how I regarded our local majority religion as I was growing up. When I was a child, Christianity was like the big, stupid bully: at once idiotic, and overwhelmingly powerful. Couldn’t they see how ridiculous their religion was? A virgin birth? Santa Claus? An Easter Bunny? A messiah who got killed, but actually died for our sins? And yet, these were the people running our country, telling us which days we get off from school and which we don’t, and playing their insidious music every winter.

Surely, some of the Jesus fad is due to the success of David Klinghoffer’s 2005 book, “Why the Jews Rejected Jesus.” (Answer: We’re the chosen people — a nation, not universalists.) But I think a lot of it is also due to our increased confidence as an assimilated minority in the United States. Where once we could have been tortured or burned for not accepting Christ, now we can publish books criticizing him.

Read more: https://forward.com/culture/105242/do-jews-have-a-jesus-problem/
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August 18, 2018 7:46pm
MrTips

I reckon I’m on a Stuff shit list of banned commentors. They don’t publish anything I write, which isn’t even rude or defamatory. Like I give one; they do seem overly precious, especially the political ones Tracy Watkins, Henry Cooke and Jo Moir. But, its their forum, they can do what they like.
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August 18, 2018 7:47pm
- realityczech
  
  “I’m on a Stuff shit list”
  
  That is a significant compliment. Congratulations on the accolade.
  
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  August 18, 2018 7:54pm
- RF
  
  Me too. Nothing published…
  
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  August 18, 2018 10:40pm
Viking2

Poland cracks door open for Filipino workers

Labor shortages in Eastern Europe force governments to seek Asian help.
Nonetheless, Paez said: “Poland will be an attractive destination for our workers due to its strong labor rights, the shared Catholic faith and strong family values, the only possible drawback being the cold weather.”

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Poland-cracks-door-open-for-Filipino-workers

Looks like the Poles don’t want the Islamists at all, Germany with its tits on a tangle over this. EU pissed off as well.
When Britain finally goes so will some others.

worth the read.
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August 18, 2018 8:09pm
- realityczech
  
  Good one. Lets see the German authoritarian socialists scream racist in their faces now that they are inviting in little brown skinned Asians. 🙂
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:19pm
- DigNap15
  
  But Poland’s right-wing government, led by the Law and Justice Party also known as PiS, has cited security concerns about Muslim refugees and migrants, with Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki earlier this year declaring: “We will not be allowing migrants from the Middle East and Northern Africa to enter Poland.”
  
  Long live Poland.
  And Hungary and Myanmar and Slovakia.
  They are not letting muslim and African migrants in to their beautiful countries.
  And they are not being dictated to by bureaucrats and socialists in Brussels!
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:48pm
- Jack5
  
  Note Nikkei in the report says:
  
  “From Mongolia, the Czech Republic is hoping to draw in workers in the meat-processing and dairy industries.”
  
  There is at least one Mongolian shearer working in the South Island.
  
  From NZ, some meat workers go to Iceland in our off-season, and some young southerners do crop harvest work in Canada in the southern off-season.
  
  Poland might be another good counter-season employer for some of our seasonal workers.
  
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  August 18, 2018 8:53pm
Maggy Wassilieff

For the Junk collectors…
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/18/it-looks-like-youre-a-lazy-idiot-hoarders-welcome-medical-classification
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August 18, 2018 8:30pm
Jack5

You owe the bank $50,000, you’ve got a problem. If you the bank $50 million, the bank’s got a problem.

Why China’s holding of $US1.2 trillion of US government debt doesn’t give China the upper hand in a trade stand-off:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/2160270/why-trade-war-wont-prompt-beijing-dump-its-us-treasuries
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August 18, 2018 9:15pm
- realityczech
  
  Who runs the banks Jacksie?
  
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  August 18, 2018 9:31pm
  - Jack5
    
    No!???
    
    ‼️ KRC‼️ You haven’t …. you haven’t got Social Credit on the roll of conspiracy theories you subscribe to?
    
    Talk about a bloody joiner.
    
    Why don’t you just join a lawn bowls club? And an indoor bowls club? And a Scottish country dancing group? And a line dancing club? And a walking group? And a credit union? And a reading group?
    
    But you know as well as I do, ‼️KRC‼️ that the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Salvation Army, and the “Christians without a Name” run the banks.
    
    The last group:
    
    http://www.tellingthetruth.info/publications_index/johnsonbenton.php
    
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    August 18, 2018 11:20pm
    - Jack5
      
      The “Christians without a Name” – the Cooneyites – are in NZ. I think people who think they have died out here, and survive chiefly in Australia and Ireland, are premature about the sect’s demise.
      
      Members meet in each other’s homes, and like other sects, can put pressure on families when not all members want to be in the sect.
      
      But for conspiracy theorists this could be a great group on which to build imaginary threats.
      
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      August 18, 2018 11:31pm
      - Jack5
        
        ?Hager the Horrible could do a job on whether Don Brash possibly may have met Cooneyites.
        
        Brash could never deny it because he would never be able to tell whether he’d met them or not.
        
        The MSM clowns would go mad: “Brash refuses to deny he might have met Cooneyites” in the memos flying around the news rooms.
        
        Headline idea for the Hooerald:
        
        Brash and the Loony Cooneys:
        He can’t swear he hasn’t met them
        
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        August 18, 2018 11:38pm
DigNap15

The US is China’s biggest customer, it needs those exports!
China will give in .
But the problem is that they cannot buy enough US products, as they are too dear due to US wages being higher.
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August 18, 2018 9:26pm
- Jack5
  
  Globalisation has somewhat de-industrialised the United States. We have had military leaders suggesting that it doesn’t have enough heavy industry left to fight a war of any length.
  
  Heaps of American designed, American branded electronics are manufactured in Taiwan and China.
  
  It will be interesting to see if Trump can resurrect electronics as he is doing with coal and steel.
  
  A lot of America’s exports to China are agricultural, and if America has to rely on this it will go the same way as New Zealand – being an economic colony of China.
  
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  August 18, 2018 11:47pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes its a bit of a joke really.
    China exports high tech goods to the USA (and cheap clothes)
    The USA exports soya beans, chicken and pork to China.
    Its the opposite of what you would think.
    
    I do worry about the lack of heavy industries in the USA to make military stuff and infrastructure etc.
    
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    August 19, 2018 6:58am
Jack5

Midnight, and the rug has been thrown over the cage of ?‼️Kearealityczech‼️

He’s dreaming of flying around olive trees in Israel.
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