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Maggy Wassilieff

More publicity for NZ bans in The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/15/tenants-on-our-own-land-new-zealand-bans-sale-of-homes-to-foreign-buyers
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August 16, 2018 8:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  More info here
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-15/new-zealand-bans-foreigners-from-buying-property/10124290
  
  (Can’t find anything much in our MSM)
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:14am
  - oldpark
    
    @M W
    Guess who was the architect of the bill. The three time electoral seat Loser. Even dumped by his Dunedin electorate as being untrustworthy and could not even get some facts for the companies office. Yes another one selected by Peters as caretakers of NZs ,or better known as the “Coalition of Corruption and Chaos”.David Parker the clown and joke that keeps giving other countries ammunition to make NZ an International Laughing stock Nation.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:31am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    What has Hugh got to say about this apart from lots and lots and lots and lots and hyperlink hyperlink?
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:41am
    - stephen2d
      
      He gets to write his name and self promote, of course.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:43am
  - Jack5
    
    But the position in Australia, according to the Australian Taxation Office:
    
    “If you are a foreign resident you cannot buy an established residential dwelling in Australia, either directly in your name or through a trust relationship or company structure.”
    
    The situation in Singapore:
    
    Non-Singapore citizens cannot buy a house lying on residential land without approval of the relevant authorities.
    
    In China, the position is fairer. No-one can buy property freehold.
    
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    August 16, 2018 10:12am
    - Jack5
      
      The position in Canada from a site for foreign property buyers:
      
      ” As of April 21, 2017, any individual who is not a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada (including corporations and trusts) is subject to a Non-Resident Speculation Tax of 15% of the purchase price (paid at closing) for properties purchased in Toronto, Brant, Dufferin, Durham, Haldimand, Halton, Hamilton, Kawartha Lakes, Niagara, Northumberland, Peel, Peterborough, Simcoe, Toronto, Waterloo, Wellington and York.
      
      Owning a property in Canada does not give you any immigration privileges.”
      
      A 15 per cent tax was imposed on foreign house buyers in Vancouver two years ago.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:23am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Too little too late. Chinese will just buy houses through shell companies, trust and distant relatives with NZ passports.
  Nzers simply do not understand how the real world works, how the Chinese do business and that there are more millionaires in China than sheep in NZ.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:18am
  - artemisia
    
    Agree that foreign resident ban will make little if any difference. Except possibly to supply.
    
    And the supply might well not be an increase if Auckland apartments fail to sell as planned and developers flag the next project.
    
    A big chunk of overseas buyers have been buying in Auckland central suburbs, mostly apartments, for rental. Up to 20% of overseas buyers in recent times.
    
    That’s not 20% of apartments of course, but it will be enough to cause a few developers to pore over their spreadsheets.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:27am
    - G152
      
      The lack of houses being built will solve this
      
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      August 16, 2018 8:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Relevant to this housing restriction is the fact that NZ’s population growth is outpacing its economic growth.
        
        Michael Reddell has an interesting article on his blog, Croaking Cassandra, on trade, immigration and population as he dissects the speech in Wellington by Philippe Legrain, who champions open borders.
        
        It’s the second item down in the blog’s 15th August posts.
        
        https://croakingcassandra.com/
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:31am
  - VicParking
    
    And more millionaires in Venezuela than NZ which is the target the COL are aiming for.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:36am
  - Paulus
    
    Understand that one possibility is that a (foreign) New Zealand Citizen buys on behalf of the overseas “investor” and settlement is made in say Hong Kong, the legal ownership remaining with the local purchaser but retained by agreement with the actual owner.
    Money always talks. In the mean time the overseas owner comes to New Zealand and lives for a nominal rent in his/her house awaiting immigration approval then all settlement can take place.
    After all it is only house purchase not say a Business entry.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:40am
    - smttc
      
      You do realise the arrangement between the expat NZ citizen and the overseas investor breaches the nominee provisions of the Overseas Investment Act?
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:05am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        So what. Good luck catching someone.
        
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        August 16, 2018 12:33pm
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    If Chinese don’t buy so many houses why are there so many Chinese real-estate agents, why are agencies targeting Chinese? Surely they would have a good idea of who is buying houses..
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:41am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Chinese New Zealanders.
      
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      August 16, 2018 8:52am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        No Chinese, the real-estate agents are Chinese. They don’t stop being Chinese because of political correctness or a piece of paper.
        
        Your probably one of those intollerant racist cultural supremacists that expect everyone that is let in the front door to drop all their own cultural and religious values, and act like a British Settler.
        
        Seriously the arrogance, if they want to eat with chopsticks or speak Chinese well they are Chinese, it really is none of your business and no ones place to sort of forcibly Anglicanise them.
        
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        August 16, 2018 9:06am
      - All_on_Red
        
        No Holly.
        The Chinese Real Estate agents sell to Chinese New Zealanders. There are quite a few here. So they tend to work that buying segment.
        And I’m part Maori.
        But that’s ok. You have every right to make completely wrong assumptions and show yourself to be an ignorant c**t
        ?
        
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        August 16, 2018 9:51am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Ah no. If a Englishmen or a Chinamen, or any other men gets on a boat or a plane or whatever and comes to NZ they don’t stop being their ethnicity/race, they might become a ‘national’, but NZer is not, never was and never will be a race/ethnicity.
        
        It is a nationality, now a Chinese person can be an NZ national, but he is still a chinese person. Just as many NZ nationals are Europeans, they don’t stop being European. Nor does a Maori stop being Maori.
        
        Now we actually do not know how many chinese are buying houses because we don’t have a registry of home owners and property transactions ordered by ethnicity/race. We don’t do that in this country. And even if we did a Trust/company doesn’t have an Ethnicity/Race.
        
        Now given the phenomena of autosegregation I would assume based on the number of chinese and other East-Asian Realtors that those ethnicities/races comprise a great deal of property transactions.
        
        Netherthreless the skin colour of a property owner is not overly important in my opinion.
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:11am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Racist Holly
        You asked the question why are Chinese agents targeting Chinese.
        I answered that by saying they are targeting Chinese New Zealanders.
        Since you are particularly stupid. Let me be more precise.
        They are Chinese immigrants who hold NZ Passports.
        As for your patronising rant, well…
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:16am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Let me clarify something All_on_red, you claim all houses sold to Chinese are sold to Chinese with NZ Citizenship, yet there is no way of knowing that, as there is no property register that tracks Race/Ethnicity and Citizenship.
        
        It is not that you don’t have evidence, it is that no such evidence exists because it is not collected in the first place! Nor do I understand why you are making a distinction between the citizenship status of the Chinese and other east-asians buying houses. It doesn’t make them any less Chinese. Being Chinese has nothing to do with citizenship or any other government license.
        
        Just leave the Chinese alone All_on_red, there is nothing wrong with being a Chinese person. As I said, if they want to keep their culture and eat with chopsticks let them.. If they want to buy a house, let them… Don’t treat them like Jews in Medieval Europe and ban them from buying houses and working in certain trades…
        
        Its not NAZI germany… I mean we are heading there, but we aren’t there yet…
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:47am
- Chris R
  
  The truly affected parties here are those NZ’ers who already own homes…they bought those homes on the open market, negotiated their mortgages on the open market, arranged their insurances on the open market but are not now permitted to sell on an open market. ie A market which includes foreigners. This is not a policy solely about outsiders buying houses in NZ it is a policy to drive down NZ’ers’ equity in their own homes. If the policy is to slow house value growth it will work but just don’t forget who is carrying the can for this.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:49am
  - igm
    
    The Toxic Gnome quipped with his vile grin, this answer to a reporter when asked about lowering house prices, “There are ways”!
    Now we are seeing them, and God help poor bastards with heavy mortgages that will be living in homes with negative equities.
    This CoL is hell bent on seeing our capitalist system, as they state, destroyed.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:10am
    - tf78
      
      Destroy the people but retain their own assets of course.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:30am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      High government spending and the falling dollar will lead to inflation. This could be good for anyone with a mortgage as long as they fix for a decent term.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:05am
  - Harkman
    
    Here comes a wealth collapse and a balance of payments crisis (foreign buyers are pushing up local wealth and negating the current account deficits).
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:24am
  - Jack5
    
    You are right Chris, that a fall in capital value will trim some of the wealth of householders, especially in Auckland.
    
    It’s paper wealth until realised, but the folk who will be hurt are those who borrowed to the hilt.
    
    The banks as lenders need to share the moral blame. There is no iron rule that property values always rise in a steady graph line.
    
    The banks, by at times lending up to 100 per cent (and more, sometimes throwing in transfer costs), were like drug dealers feeding addicts.
    
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    August 16, 2018 10:35am
    - Harkman
      
      Jack I have never seen developers borrow while house prices are falling. The conditions in NZ are slowly gathering for a Perfect Storm.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:43am
      - riffer
        
        I haven’t been stupid enough to borrow against the potential worth of my home. Like all gambling, sometimes you can lose. The house prices are unsustainable and will fall.
        
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        August 16, 2018 3:07pm
holysheet

In an effort to determine exactly whats happened in London in the aftermath of the car incident, the police were seen questioning a number of letter boxes in the immediate area around Westminister.
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August 16, 2018 8:08am
- DigNap15
  
  I would send all the letter boxes back to where they came from.
  Those immigrants cost far more than they are worth in crime and security services having to monitor and follow them.
  Muslims do not belong in the west.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:21am
- Rich Prick
  
  Now I thought he was a “lone wolf with mental health issues”, they all have them of course. Nothing to see here, the bodies will just be lumped on the “diversity celebration” pile. Ain’t life and death grand.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:38am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  An interesting video showing a (inferred) security services van tailing the car that rammed people in Westminister. Powers that be must have known he was up to something.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APK9PB8VK5s
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:53am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Yes, that is interesting and when they say that ‘armed police were on the scene within minutes’ with pictures of bobbies with machine guns coming out of the side door of a white van, just how many minutes?
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:04am
    - rangitoto
      
      There would always be armed police in that area. Downing St, HoP etc.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:42am
- Southern Raider
  
  I was thinking the other day after going through airport security for about the 8th time this month
  
  If we weren’t so bloody PC and actually allowed biased screening of people based on threat groupings how much money would be saved around the globe.
  
  The fact that we can’t just screen or search Muslims at airports must cost globally a billion per day
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:47am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I’m a bit of an outspoken old fart and several times recently on my overseas holiday I exclaimed quite loudly in airport security queues ‘Look what the fucking Muslims have done to our civilisation!’
    
    My wife shrunk away a bit… but several times I got approving looks, smiles and nods from other passengers.A couple of times going through the screening I said to the security person ‘I bet you thank Mohammed every day for this wonderful job opportunity’. That one wasn’t quite so well received…. but at least I wasn’t arrested so all good 😀
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:11am
peterwn

I don’t remember any teachers strikes 2008-2017. Must be because with all the handouts to regions, students and beneficiaries, teachers feel ‘taken for granted’, ‘not valued’, their union’s support for the Labour Party not recognised, etc, etc.
Perhaps Labour thought clobbering Charter Schools was an easy and cheap way of appeasing the teachers unions and would suffice.
Why were the teachers unions not vocal during the nine years of alleged neglect.
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August 16, 2018 8:11am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Ardern was blaming the teachers strike on the Nat govt and Bridges let her get away with those claims.
  “We’ve doubled the offer made by that government”
  So what is the strike about?
  National’s pay offer didn’t cause a strike.
  But the CoL doubles the offer and teachers (and nurses) vote to strike.
  Obviously the strikes aren’t over pay rates then, are they.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:30am
  - Paulus
    
    Teachers voted for this commie woman – so serves them right – unfortunately they will get whatever they want and more.
    Cindy was not well received outside Parliament – what can I say – Women (one in twelve teachers is called a man).
    I read that almost 25% of schools did not strike ?
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:44am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Fucking exactly. It’s a bid to get more lollies.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:56am
    - Prince
      
      The Unions paid for this Govt and they will bloody well soak us dry For their rewards.
      Public Service pay and conditions are already well ahead of the real workers. But I’d much rathr have a real job than work in that bloated environment.
      
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      August 16, 2018 4:14pm
  - MrLovebucket
    
    They are going on strike because they know this Govt is weak and would rather give in to demands than steer a sound economic course. Teachers are being greedy. Keep your eye on inflation!
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:04am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      People rightly associate the unions with the Labour party. So if the unions go on strike and cause disruption, that hurts a Labour government more than it hurts a National government. They are doing it now because they have more bargaining power now, not because they were happy with the deal they got under National.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:22am
    - hullkiwi
      
      By the way the CoL is running these wage negotiaion/settlements, they are signalling they are weak & have no idea what they are doing. Then the resort to hissy fits in the media because the nurses, teachers or whoever else do not love them.
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:42am
- Harkman
  
  They’re obviously taking advantage of a weak government because they might not still be around in 3 years.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:46am
  - rockape
    
    Maybe they will grab the pay now and vote National to grab tax cuts next time!
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:19pm
Monique Watson

The coat she wore while meeting the teachers did nothing for the P.M. Too pale. Made her look sick.
Meanwhile, whoever did her make-up did a great job of the, “Be nice to me, I’m a new Mum”, look.
A case of the responsible parents are away so lets hand out the lollies. Give into every demand and let Chippie deflect.
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August 16, 2018 8:11am
- CHFR1
  
  I know this will sound bitchy but the shoes are what gets to me. I own a pair of Allbirds (with laces) and love them but the loafers just look like slippers. She is our PM and needs to look the part.
  I would say the same to any male PM who decided casual shoes looked good with a suit, before I am accused of sexism.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:26am
  - Rich Prick
    
    A Jackie O, she ain’t, a young Mrs Brown, perhaps.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:40am
    - igm
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:30am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I think they are concentrating on tying their own laces next term or when they go home, that being when they return to the opposition benches, which ever comes first
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:54am
- VicParking
  
  The bitch face she makes after sitting down after answering questions in Parliment would frighten gargoyles. Don’t know whats so hard all she has to do is move her mouth because Robertson does all the words.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:41am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    If you read her lips while Grant is answering the question, you will see that she is saying ‘fuuuuuuuck Grant,warm your hands before answering my question why doncha!’
    
    And if you follow the grimaces of the sign language person who blocks out the clown show surrounding her, you can see that this is true!
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:59am
  - igm
    
    Is there an adjective stronger than “Hate”?
    If there is, it would be appropriate for this CoL and its illegitimate driver.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:33am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Hate is a noun or a verb.
      
      But adjectives stronger than hateful:
      odious, execrable, abominable, vile, obnoxious, foul, loathsome…etc
      
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      August 16, 2018 7:12pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Did you notice the body language of Davis in the CoL line up of losers who followed the messiah on her mission to address the assembled masses outside parliment yesterday?
  
  The gaggle of clowns all stood in line with their hands held in front in case one of the unwashed hoi poli attempted to kick any one of them in the nuts, but, our Kelvin, the ex headmaster who it would be reasonable to assume would have some empathy with the striking teachers, had his hands firmly thrust in his pockets with his ‘get the fuck off my front lawn expression.
  
  Did he not hear the deportment instructions or did he just not understand the message? Latter more than the former I suspect.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:52am
oldgolfer

Chippy? Is that the petulant Chippy we all laughed at in Parliament yesterday?
Little twerp.
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August 16, 2018 8:14am
- igm
  
  Do not refer to this effeminate little creep as “Chippy”.
  I once had a spaniel called Chippy, he being the best retriever of ducks I ever had. He was a bloody good dog, and would even give the ewes a nip on the heel when needed.
  He was useful and decent . . . this woofter from Upper Hutt who takes his orders from mummy is not!
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:37am
  - Paulus
    
    igm
    So did I – my first dog over 50 years go was Chippy – a Black and White Roan Cocker Spaniel – cost more to fly out than the Children.
    Being with an Irish name with a potato derivation he was actually was a chip being a little spud..
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:51pm
hullkiwi

Chippie “absolutely” understands (ignorant use of split infinitives) & gets it about the teachers demands (RNZ Morning Report 16/08/2018). Cites the CoL are putting twice the amount the last govt put on the table. But is sounding miffed that the union won’t come back to the negotiating table to bags in in good faith.

101 bargaining in good faith – don’t shout at your opposite side via the megaphone of the media unless your aim is to piss of the representatives of those opposite you at the negotiating table.
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August 16, 2018 8:15am
oldpark

Hate speech is alive and well in NZ. While watching so called Question time in our Parliamentary debating chamber as we do . Watched the laughable finance Minister Robertson a poor replacement for Bill English mutter something under his breath to “Commie Chic Comrade” Ardern the 38 year old woman selected by Peters to be NZs PM.
It was a question from Simon Bridges to her. Ardern was threshing around not knowing what to say when,suddenly without warning ,the insignificant effeminate Hipkins meant to be the Leader of the house,screamed at Simon Bridges calling him chauvenistic “Pig”.
Yes the same effeminate Hipkins who knows fugh all about education yet he is the Education Minister.The same wee pest who shut down charter schools and has thrown a spanner into the whole NZs education system.
Maybe the real reason for Hipkins hate speech comment yesterday was he was very very jumpy when it was announced that a QC would be checking out who is the Phantom Leaker who leaked Simon Bridges expense sheet . Maybe the QC should check out” hate speech” Hipkins computer first. If not ,why not.
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August 16, 2018 8:16am
- KevOB
  
  In the House many of the COL act like children. They pull faces at the Opposition.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:30am
- VicParking
  
  I understand the enquiry (no 136) will not cover COL Mp’s as they will not have to sign a waver. Mind you it was proberly sent to him by a staffer so he will be found out via an OutBox.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:45am
  - Harkman
    
    Winston is the obvious culprit, he would have been made aware of the spending as Acting PM and cooked up a scheme to release it a day before the teachers strike, by which time Cindy would be back in charge and could have plausible deniability.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:04am
    - igm
      
      Toxic Gnome is anti-Bridges as he has made damn sure Boozie never gets a look-in near the seat of Tauranga, yet another he has lost through poor representation (makes three I think).
      Seems a little like Mallard having a hate on Bishop, the one he was scared to face in his safe Labour seat of Hutt South.
      CoL consists of failures, losers, troughers, perverts, and leeches.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:31am
    - marcw
      
      Yes, he do’th protest too much. He did everything but wave around a bunch of paper and say “I’ve got the transcript right here in my hand.” Lying prick.
      
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      August 16, 2018 12:57pm
- calendar girl
  
  Hipkins is the doctrinaire Minister in charge of the dismembering of Charter Schools that offered so much hope and promise to some of our country’s most disadvantaged kids. Many of those kids from Maori or Pacific Island backgrounds, and benefiting from different approaches to education.
  
  The teachers’ unions were loud in their ritualistic condemnation of Charter Schools. So until:
  – the unions back off from their little bit of ‘self-interest’ that is targeted at the education available to our most deprived young students; and
  – Charter Schools are restored as an element of NZ education;
  I personally will not lose a minute’s sleep if they never receive a single dollar more in their pay-packets.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:44am
- Philview
  
  The mysterious “Silly Girl” comment created global headlines. “Chauvenistic Pig” sounds far insulting and is just laughed off.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:45am
  - Prince
    
    Interesting that the made up ‘silly girl’ comment was taken to the media by Mallard.
    But the media insists Mallard could not possibly be the leaker this time because he is ‘impartial’.
    
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    August 16, 2018 4:23pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Is that different to being a chauvenist pig? or is it chauvenistesque.
    
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    August 16, 2018 4:28pm
- RF
  
  Little Chippie usually has an inscrutable face and never seen to blink. Would make a good poker player.
  
  Yesterday after the speaker announced the investigation into the leak, Chippie became agitated and had a melt down calling Simon Bridges chauvinist pig. When called by the speaker to withdraw and apologise he became petulant and lost 5 questions.
  
  Has the leaker been outed ?
  
  Watch this space.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:19am
secondcumming

*The Extreme Warrior gene* [published Journal Scientia 2015 Feb 7]

MAOA – Genetic culprit for violence?

Theories about inborn race-based aggression, violence, and criminality abound. Nicknamed the ‘warrior gene’, a variant of the MAOA drew attention nearly a decade ago, when geneticist Rod Lea reported that it was more common in Maori – the indigenous Polynesians of New Zealand – than in whites…..

There can be no doubt the gene has become even more prevalent……*THE NZ HERALD* reports:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12107456
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August 16, 2018 8:18am
- KevOB
  
  I suspect this is throughout Polynesia. I have been wondering if there was such a gene. The gene may have come through the Han out of the Mongol population. They came down both through China and invaded parts of Europe.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:33am
  - VicParking
    
    The Gene has been refined over the years as the less aggressive have been culled out of the population though being used as a menu item.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:49am
  - stephieboy
    
    KevOB , what about German DNA findings?
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:53am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      A red herring
      
      The Germans trampled all over Poland and found no evidence of such a gene.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:10am
  - KevOB
    
    The incidence of one MAO-A III is 61% of Tawanese males and 56% in China. As the Polynesians came via Taiwan that is interesting. Some of the hordes from the Steppes may have brought this gene to Germania.
    
    I’m only seeking an explanation for the violence in the Pacific that I’m personally are aware of. Science begins with questions or putting an idea up against reality and seeing if it matches and repeating it till a fit is found or not.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:19am
    - SGA
      
      Not sure I follow –
      Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA gene between ethnic groups:[10][11] of the participants, 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele
      (Wikipedia)
      In other words the gene has a significant presence in most populations. Why single out Polynesians?
      
      In any case, the last 100o years in nearly any part of the world (including Europe) has been riddled with war and violence. Not sure the relative frequency of this particular gene is, in and of itself, a particularly good marker of violence and culture.
      
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      August 16, 2018 3:46pm
      - KevOB
        
        It may not be.
        I’m just interested in seeing what might tie some some observed similarities together.
        
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        August 16, 2018 8:04pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    I don’t think it is throughout Polynesia at all, actually.
    
    I’ve just been to Hawaii where the native people are Polynesians – and where the Maori say they came from – and the cultural differences are extreme. They’re like chalk and cheese.
    
    Whereas the Maoris’ greeting is threatening and violent, the Hawaiian greeting is smiles, cute hand signals and the word ‘love’ (Aloha).
    
    Whereas the Maoris’ haka war dancing is a group of people threatening the audience en masse and demanding ‘respect’, the Hawaiian hula dance is one of laughter, grace and sensuality. Whereas the Maoris’ ‘music’ is a series of simple grunting sounds with no actual tune, the Hawaiian music is beautiful, complicated, rhythmic and extremely melodic.
    
    Maoris and the Hawaiians are both Polynesians, so the differences are not racial. They are cultural. Just like the differences between the Germans and the British and many other cultures all over the world.
    
    Some cultures are better than others.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:35am
    - Dave Mann
      
      EDIT: I missed the ‘s’ off the plural word ‘Maoris’ in my first paragraph, sorry. Even my bloody phone has been programmed to be politically correct! Fucking AI robots!
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:49am
      - starboard
        
        They have the thief gene as well..
        
        “Small Northern Hawke’s Bay kura subjected to a probe from the Serious Fraud Office.”
        
        SFO have got their work cut out, the murri king ( lol)
        is currently under the microscope as well.
        
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        August 16, 2018 12:12pm
    - KevOB
      
      You are not aware of Tonga, Fiji and Samoa. Not everyone is identical. Cpt. Cook didn’t find Hawaii too bad for a while.
      
      The Samoans chuckle over it, calling themselves “The Irishmen of the Pacific.” They know their warrior instincts well. I know of a beheading over a 5 cent difference in the exchange rate. The local shopkeeper dishonoured a Chief.
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:14pm
    - Paulus
      
      Maori come from a ancient tribe Gao Tsan Tsu still in South East Taiwan.
      Even Peters accepts this.
      Then possibly via Hawaii and Cook Islands more recently.
      The language there is Cook Island Maori.
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:55pm
  - Jack5
    
    KevOB, Polynesians’ remote ancestors had moved out of South-east Asia long, long before the Mongols and their kinsmen, the Manchu, conquered China.
    
    The closest Asian relatives of the Polynesians in Asia are the indigenous, non-Chinese people of Taiwan.
    
    Mongolians are among the world’s most intelligent people, if international measures valid, and a commentator at the link below says that on “visuall spacial IQ” Mongolian kids are five points higher than Chinese kids.
    
    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Mongolian-IQ-ranked-so-high
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:11pm
    - KevOB
      
      Your’e right. We don’t know the full migration picture and it is buried in time. Any links have to be long way back. Who are the ancient Taiwanese? I have seen comments about Polynesian being traced back recently into upper China.
      
      I’m only linking up some apparent similarities but they may not be anymore than that.
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:28pm
      - Jack5
        
        There seems to be archaeological evidence for the Taiwanese aboriginal people – distant cousins of Maori – being on the island for 6000 or more years.
        
        Some of these tribes were headhunters until the 1930s.
        
        Could there be a violence gene?
        
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        August 16, 2018 2:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  It’s otherwise called pseudoscience!
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:51am
  - KevOB
    
    Only by those with closed minds.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:21am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  People are the same race as their parents. More likely these traits are passed on through poor parenting which certainly exists. A genetic factor may or may not exist, but is not necessary to explain the evidence.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:30am
  - KevOB
    
    There are some world wide pockets of similarity which invites inquiry into common links. It is known that migration brought the warriors from the Steppes to Europe. The Polynesians also have been traced to ancient Taiwan. Could they too be related to the past Steppes people?
    
    It’s only speculation to satisfy as restless mind.
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:37pm
    - MH
      
      I’ve heard that blood groups of maori are matched with eskimos/inuits. Other than that I don’t have an igloo.
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:57pm
waikatogirl

Another do-gooder calling for higher tax to pay for the damage done by alcohol. Increasing excise tax on alcohol will not stop those with an excessive drinking problem. They will just buy a cheaper brand.
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August 16, 2018 8:20am
- cmm
  
  From experience they will go without just about everything else:
  * Feed the family? Naah.
  * Shoes for the kids? Naah.
  * Get new tyres for the car? Naah.
  * Pay the rates? Naah.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:22am
  - holysheet
    
    * go to winz for a top up of the bene to buy more grog. Yeah.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:32am
- Jade Warrior
  
  I can remember watching that Nigel Latta documentary on alcohol a few years back. I had poured myself a nice glass of Pinot Noir and whenever he or one of the wowsers he had on his documentary said something negative about alcohol, I raised my glass and said “Up yours, Nigel” before taking a sip.
  
  I think I got through two thirds of the bottle as a result but it was a very nice Pinot. ?
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:43am
wreck1080

I’d have to largely agree with Don Brash, National broke core promises.

The biggest goal for national , was to lift productivity such that we could catch up with Australian wages. This is the one thing that could have really assisted people the most.

Big fat failure!! National did nothing of the sort.

Instead, people earn about the same today (inflation adjusted) as they did when national first took power. But, everything else went up – house prices for example.

Helen Clark made similar promises, so big fat 0 to her also!
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August 16, 2018 8:22am
- cmm
  
  Dude, surely National must have been doing something.
  
  The evidence is in the highest repatriation rates during National’s time in office. They also had a GFC and the Chch EQ stacked against them.
  
  Keeping the Good Ship NZ afloat during the storms of the GFC and EQs are all on Bill.
  
  This lot are managing to sink the ship on a beautiful day without a cloud in the sky.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:26am
  - wreck1080
    
    Key established a taskforce to close the income gap. They came out with a number of recommendations.
    
    Key ignored them all!
    
    Sure, the GFC and Eq occurred… but you could argue the earthquake was good for workers… maybe not for the government but definitely many have become very wealthy from the chc eq.
    
    And, again, Key ignored the recommendations from the very taskforce he established!
    
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    August 16, 2018 4:25pm
- brett68
  
  The biggest goal for national , was to lift productivity such that we could catch up with Australian wages. This is the one thing that could have really assisted people the most.
  
  Big fat failure!! National did nothing of the sort.
  
  Governments don’t lift productivity only business can do that.
  
  All governments to can do is try and create an environment that encourages business productivity, the rest is up to business.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:41am
  - Batman
    
    Brett68: having dealt with this in my work, government’s can help if we dive into arms manufacturing.
    
    The notable thing about countries with high productivity is that they all have high value sectors such as:
    Arms manufacturing
    Biotechnology
    Pharmaceuticals
    automotive manufacturing et al.
    
    Sadly we only have a very small pharma industry, so unless something changes out productivity is stuck.
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:46pm
  - wreck1080
    
    I disagree, look at Singapore. The government was key in turning Singapore into a wealthy economy with high productivity.
    
    National pfaffed around with Working for families and welfare.. further entrenching people to generations of welfare dependence.
    
    John Key mentioned turning NZ into a finance hub, but , wasn’t competent enough to get that off the ground.
    
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    August 16, 2018 4:27pm
- Inandout
  
  To be fair that Christchurch earthquake completely blew any plans for a prosperous NZ out of the water.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:43am
  - VicParking
    
    Especially was it quickly followed the Government having to bale out the Banks.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:53am
  - Jack5
    
    Yeah, Inandout, the Christchurch earthquake drained NZ’s internal resources.
    
    But it brought in billions of foreign reinsurance funds that must have offset some of our continuing balance of payments deficits.
    
    Millions draining out year on year to international reinsurers, and suddenly a dollop comes back.
    
    Vic, how did the Government “have to bail out the banks”?
    
    In the initial stages of the last international financial crisis wasn’t it our banks, all but Kiwibank Australian owned, that bailed out NZ?
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  wreck1080 , so how can ACT or what over push above 1.2%?
  
  The voting public don’t accept Don Brash’s another big dose of Rogernomics
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:56am
  - wreck1080
    
    Seymour is a clown. Act need someone who has respect.
    
    In fact, Act are tainted, since Rodney Hide ruined it. Enjoyed the baubles of power a little too much. And those yellow suits? What were they thinking?
    
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    August 16, 2018 4:28pm
- KevOB
  
  What do you when you have a $20bn earthquake dumped on you to manage?
  
  Any better performance of the economy by National over its term would have been a miracle.
  
  The COL only works to slogans. In most of their speeches in the House they attempt to attribute everything they want to change to Nationals past 9 years.
  We could have hired parrots more cheaply.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:06am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  National were a big failure but 0/10 is harsh. There are much worse possibilities than just doing nothing, as we are seeing now. Maybe they deserve a 4.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:33am
DigNap15

There is already a huge tax on alcohol.
Let those wowsers f..off and leave us alone.
Man needs a few pleasure in life.
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August 16, 2018 8:24am
- wiseowl
  
  National should promise to take the tax off Port and Sherry.
  Give a big boost to retirees hit by Andertons tax.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:00am
- igm
  
  The money for DPB and state houses must come from somewhere.
  At the rate these CoL scum are going most business taxes will be down as operating and compliance costs have escalated out of proportion.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:43am
- Philview
  
  The other side of the debate is that the poor old tax payer foots the bill for all the excess. I often wonder if there should be a “tough shit’ policy at A & E at the weekend.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:51am
- Gravelroad
  
  Why is it that there seems to be a double standard around drinking alcohol and smoking legal cigarettes?
  Alcohol – let’s tax it and lecture people.
  Cigarettes – let’s tax it more and really lecture people.
  Cannabis use – no to tax and just about everyone zones out peacefully on dope so no need to lecture about. it.
  Synthetic cannabis- it can kill people, but what the hell. Should have stuck with the “green” variety.
  Meth/P – no tax. Our most vulnerable are indulging in P use because they didn’t do any work at school so they can’t get a job. We cannot judge them – so no lecture appropriate . Increase benefits to fund habit.
  Too bad about the all the kids.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:57am
KevOB

I see our PM is dismayed. Having encouraged teachers to express their activism and adherence to COL union wishes the teachers are not being tame to order.
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August 16, 2018 8:24am
- cmm
  
  So far this week she has been:
  * disappointed
  * frustrated
  * annoyed
  * dismayed
  
  Poor wee poppet.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:28am
  - Poppa
    
    I am all of those things as well, because of the silly little girl & her rag tag bunch of no hopers
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:34am
  - DigNap15
    
    This is great, lets hope her antics and pontifications finally turn the Womens Weekly crowd off her.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:35am
    - stephieboy
      
      NipNap15 etc , as if anybody out there in the real world actually cares about your playpen sulks.
      
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      August 16, 2018 8:59am
      - VicParking
        
        A 1000% more than care about your rants goat boy
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:15am
  - Justitia
    
    It’s “fustrated”.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:36am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Actually, it’s “fustraded”.
      
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      August 16, 2018 8:45am
      - Harkman
        
        You sure it isn’t “Absolutely fustraded?” ?
        
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        August 16, 2018 8:58am
      - waikatogirl
        
        “Absoludely, absoludely” ?
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:17am
  - Rich Prick
    
    She should stop reading Mills & Boon, then the First Fuckbuddie might not disappoint so much.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:43am
  - Inandout
    
    ‘Frustrated’ with Clarkey around, surely not?
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:45am
  - VicParking
    
    And by the look of her face Bitch Slapped
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:54am
    - igm
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:45am
  - KevOB
    
    Her resilience is not high either. She’s had a break and fresher–more forceful–not more thoughtful. The next 6 months should test her limits.
    The grand plan is going to be hard to stick too if outside economic forces surface.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:12am
- lifesgood
  
  Good show.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  All that pre-election virtue signalling by the COL for the unions campaign for higher wages is coming home to roost. Or another analogy, Cindy and Grant gave the unions the green light to go for much higher wages. What did they expect?! Virtue signalling has consequences, my dear… ?
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:35am
  - KevOB
    
    What (royal) right does the PM have to stir up the union movement to pit the employees against the government?
    
    Jacinda has put herself in the midst of protagonist-antagonist.
    She has been university educated?
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:15am
    - calendar girl
      
      Tertiary education in politics and communications from Waikato University (Bachelor of Communication Studies). Says it all.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:55am
secondcumming

You would have to wonder just what the problem is at the BBC?

In the aftermath of yesterdays terrorist attack in Westminster, they initially reported the driver of the car had been described as: “A blonde hair Swedish looking male holding British citizenship, who may have been upset after being sacked from his job at Ikea”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkjpAb9X0AAIcjO.jpg
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August 16, 2018 8:32am
- lifesgood
  
  Surely they were taking the proverbial? Photos show a black man arrested reportedly a Sudanese.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:34am
- Justitia
  
  Perhaps he was radicalized by Boris’ remarks re “letterboxes”. The BBC will find an explanation.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:38am
  - Harkman
    
    Yes Boris hurt his feelings, so he hopped into his “safe space” and confirmed Boris’s hypothesis.
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:56am
    - Justitia
      
      “Hate speech” does that to people.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:20am
- stephieboy
  
  secondcumming , the BBC is a step ahead of you as usual,
  
  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45193781
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:03am
  - secondcumming
    
    As usual stepieboy, your *tired old comments* miss the point entirely!
    
    Maybe you need a good sleep? Here’s something you could try….. 😎
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkUjeqhWwAEJhpu.jpg
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:19am
    - sooty
      
      You spelt sheep wrong, there secondcuming.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:47am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy ,not according to porn hub goatboy.
    
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    August 16, 2018 10:27am
- KevOB
  
  They have been caught filming war reports in other countries.
  The BBC is long departed as a purveyor of fact.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:20am
Lance

Interesting over on Stuff
Primary school teachers moaning about minimum 12 hour days and 7 day weeks.
Most of the comments are calling BS on that, some from teachers. The teachers not working these hours say if you are organised (“not spending half the day on Facebook”) then it’s regular hours.
Also a number of comments pointing out that a lot of people work around 12 hours a day, no big Martyr status there.
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August 16, 2018 8:35am
- brett68
  
  Of course it’s horse shit, all those ones screaming 12 hour days are union shills.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:42am
  - lifesgood
    
    I worked many years in a high school.. Most teachers arrived around 8.30 am…out the door by 4. Most people don’t realise high school teachers do not teach all day, they have free periods when they are supposed to mark and prepare work. If they are going to waste that time gossiping and drinking coffee that’s their problem. Admittedly many teachers coach sport after school but generally they enjoy it
    As a form of exercise and a bit of a hobby/interest
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:58am
    - brett68
      
      I spent many a year doing contract work for various schools.
      
      All work had to be done in the holidays, every single school apart from the caretaker not a teacher in sight.
      
      That’s not just the end of year break, this is all breaks.
      
      Most Teachers are deluded they have no idea what hard work is.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:23am
- Paulus
  
  It is not the hours that you put into a job – it is what you achieve in those hours.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:49am
  - Rich Prick
    
    That has never occurred to an indoctrinationist.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:25am
- MCos
  
  There are several teachers in our family.
  I don’t discuss with them how much time they spend working, but I do know none of them write much on FB otherwise I’d notice.
  
  What I do notice is that some people spend an inordinate amount of time on Kiwiblog bitching & moaning about teachers, and other stuff. I can only assume they are retired and have the time to spare.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:53am
  - VicParking
    
    Kettle calling…..
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:56am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      VicParking, nope. Out with it with your welfare entitlements?
      
      Does your local DHB pay for your Walker ?
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:04am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Hi fuckwit.
        
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        August 16, 2018 9:25am
      - VicParking
        
        I’m from Whanganui. The DHB spends all their money on witch doctors, clairvoyants and administration staff
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:23am
  - Happychappy
    
    That’s the pot calling the kettle black MCos as you were one of those that spent heaps of time on kiwiblog when the Todd Barclay affair was going on slagging Bill English for his answers to Winston Peters bluff that he had all the emails that English had sent his office staff member. We are still waiting for Peters blatant lies which you took as gospel to be proven.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:10am
    - MCos
      
      That’s getting back a bit . . . . .
      
      When you get to my age your memory fades a bit.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:28am
- Komata
  
  I don’t know if anyone else heard that over the top hysterical female teacher on the RNZ 0600 news this morning. She was going absolutely bananas about being 56 years old, not being able to purchase a house in Auckland and on and on and on…
  
  Not a good advert for ‘reasoned’ debate and orderly protest, and, quite honestly, I felt very sorry for any children who had the misfortune to be in her classes – and for the parents as well.
  
  How NOT to win friends and influence people.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:55am
  - VicParking
    
    At 56 she would of been earning when you could buy a house with $8000 down. But no then she was pissing it up with her mates
    
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    August 16, 2018 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Komata, unreasoned debate and “going bananas” is pah for the course by Rabid righters like you on KB.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:07am
    - pentwig
      
      stupidboy
      what a great intelligent, reasoned, literate comment
      LOL
      perhaps you should go and cuddle your goat as you clearly need inspiration
      better that than perving at young girls at your local cafe
      tsk, tsk
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:57am
    - Komata
      
      SB
      
      What a fascinating, illuminating and terribly erudite reply; thank you.
      
      The fact that you have actually never met me, have no idea what my political views might be or even where I might live, only serves to emphasise the utter brilliance of your response.
      
      It must have taken you hours to craft it.
      
      By the way: ‘Pah’ in your sentence is actually spelt ‘PaR’, the former term being a Nineteenth Century word (now obsolete) used to describe an NZ Maori fortification. I would suggest that, on that basis, your dictionary might need to be upgraded – slightly.
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:39am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      You are clearly not a golfer with your ‘pah for the course’.
      
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      August 16, 2018 6:14pm
  - KevOB
    
    Teachers may need training in reason: their pay is not related to the local price of housing.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:24am
    - MCos
      
      I heard that woman on the radio this morning and she did herself no favours with her tone of voice.
      Nevertheless.
      The fact remains that Auckland schools struggle to attract teachers to fill vacancies because of the cost of housing.
      A loan of $700,000 at 5% plus rates and insurance is going to cost close to fifty grand p.a. Which is pretty much an entire salary after tax.
      At least the prices have stopped going up.
      Other places in the country you can buy two houses for the cost of one in Auckland, but that’s not much help.
      Maybe the pay should be related to location.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:54am
      - lifesgood
        
        Same for everyone and many who earn far less than teachers. What makes them so special?
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:01am
      - brett68
        
        The only vacancies are in all the crappy low decile schools no teacher wants to teach at those schools.
        
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        August 16, 2018 10:27am
      - MCos
        
        Are you sure about those two assumptions?
        Three
        
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        August 16, 2018 11:36am
      - MH
        
        no, it should be set to attract men teachers.
        
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        August 16, 2018 2:07pm
flipper

What a screwed up political system we have inflicted upon ourselves when the puppet master Peters, signs off on idiots like Ardern, Sage, Monk, Hipkins, every goddam one of them, as “Ministers of the Crown.” It is probably because the demise of good newspapers has seen the rise, or reason for, the click bait driven internet publication.

Until there is a fundamental realignment to a normal state we are fated to our self inflicted pain …..

By the way ….. when was a “foreigner” last seen boarding a plane with a briefcase full of land and buildings?
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August 16, 2018 8:36am
DigNap15

Following a request from yesterdays GD I am fast forwarding in my Maori Vocabulary from the Letters A and B to the letter E.

I was asked to provide the Maori word for Entitlement,

I’m sorry I can’t as funnily enough its not in my Maori Dictionary by Bruce Biggs.

The other funny thing for people who deride the dictionary I use, is that one of the contributors was Margaret Mutu, a famed Maori scholar.
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August 16, 2018 8:40am
- waikatogirl
  
  “I was asked to provide the Maori word for Entitlement”
  
  Entitlement: Maori,Treaty of Waitangi, ie gravy train. entitlement, what’s yours is mine.
  
  • the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment: no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement | [ as modifier ] : this entitlement mentality is completely out of control.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:54am
  - stephieboy
    
    waikatogirl, a working definition is here,
    
    http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=entitlement+
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:15am
    - sooty
      
      Entitlement. That’s a word Margaret Mutu understands.
      
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      August 16, 2018 9:52am
- VicParking
  
  Whakaaetanga ofcourse. Give me what is mine and throw yours in as well.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:00am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And if you don’t, I’ll give you the bash . . . .
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:22am
- KevOB
  
  Mana.(There is a scale). A certain fellow in the Waikato is in trouble over it now.
  
  Taniwha. Used when there is not sufficient mana to provide expectations. Hard to disprove and lucrative.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:25am
- Nermal
  
  IWI – I Want It
  
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  August 16, 2018 2:04pm
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  sculller?
  
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  August 16, 2018 2:10pm
niggly

The virtue signalling stupidity of Labour/NZF/Greens govt exposed yet again:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106280557/plastic-bag-makers-say-their-product-isnt-to-blame-for-damaging-the-environment

Plastic bag manufacturer to close down with job loses, meanwhile the owner points out the likes of Tokyo uses more plastic bags in one day than all of NZ in one year!

Now multiply that by dozens and dozens of other large cities in the world and NZ’s plastic bag use pales into insignificance.

We’ve seen the report here a few days ago that plastic pollution in the ocean is actually caused by people in the likes of Africa and Asia dumping their plastic waste in their rivers which flows out to sea – this isn’t happening in NZ , not one news outlet has ever reported this happening here!

Conclusion: what could possibly go wrong when a drunken dwarf appoints an airhead as Prime Minister, supported by the idealistic but loopey watermelon Greens? Thanks WinstonFirst, this, plus the COL’s corruption will not be forgotten at the next election!
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August 16, 2018 8:43am
- Rich Prick
  
  I’m throwing all of my black ultra thick “multi-use” bin liners into Cook Straight just to annoy the bitch.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:52am
  - Lance
    
    “I’m going to buy me some McDonalds Cheeseburgers in the old fashioned non biodegradable styrofoam containers”
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs&start_radio=1&list=RDUrgpZ0fUixs
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:13am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I’m popping over to Sandringham and lobbing them onto her deck . . .
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:24am
    - Paulus
      
      Did I not read that she has had a new high fence put up in front of her mansion ?
      
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      August 16, 2018 2:03pm
      - Lance
        
        And the last words any trespasser will ever hear is “release the hounds”.
        
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        August 16, 2018 2:42pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I’m going to take the single use T Shirt bags I bought on Trademe into Countdown every time I go there!
    
    Will Jacinda try to arrest me?
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:44am
- VicParking
  
  But your bags are more tasty to Turtles.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:01am
  - KevOB
    
    I have never seen a turtle eating a plastic bag. I have seen turtle being eaten.
    Mrs Beeton’ s recipe for turtle soup comes out quite unpleasant–green and fatty. The meat otherwise is not unlike chicken.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:35am
- DigNap15
  
  Why not send some of our unemployed Auckland benes out on boats to the pacific to pick up that rubbish.
  That would do more good than stopping supermarkets giving me nice clean , modern bags.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:13am
- Fletch
  
  Yep, as has been pointed out, there’s nothing actually wrong with plastic bags. They are a wonderful product, thin, lightweight, strong. As with any other product, they can be misused, but the solution is not to ban them and bring in a product that is even worse.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:46am
Harkman

What a load of nonsense on the news last night, ‘oh those poor underpaid teachers’ and Cindy turning up outside of Parliament blabbering bullsh!t. For teachers to get a pay increase the real economy needs to be robbed to pay for it.
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August 16, 2018 8:53am
- Richard
  
  Just like the the nurses Cindy will cave in. Thing is teachers have had 4 seperate pay increase settlements under the previous govt. Greed is an ugly word to use but…..
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:00am
  - KevOB
    
    The Nats, under competent management, knew that pay without productivity increased prices leading to further demand.
    The Nat’s management may not have given us the most exciting times but it was a pleasure having stable prices. Demand had to be held back as the earthquake had to be provided for.
    Towards the end of the term the world woke up to how stable we had been and Kiwis abroad began returning unexpectedly. NZ went from 0 to 45,000 in one year!. The next year 70,000 hit us. That’s why we had an accommodation problem. No planning was possible: the history didn’t justify it and the cost of doing it on spec wouldn’t have been appreciated either.
    
    The past 9 years will be treated kindly in future economic history reviews. We were very fortunate in having John Key at the time on decisions and Bill English on the money.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:47am
  - Paulus
    
    If I had the need I would rather be looked after by a Professional Nurse rather than an Unprofessional Union guided Teacher.
    The nurse will heal me not teach and tell me the socialist facts of life.
    
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    August 16, 2018 2:06pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

Don Brash: Empty promises – Why I don’t rate John Key’s legacy

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12107737
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August 16, 2018 8:56am
- Inandout
  
  The lefties are in joyous mood this morning and Brash is the new hero. These dumb pricks can change alliances overnight.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:10am
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    CB, I am merely pointing to the fluidity of the Left. I have always supported Brash’s ideas but he was not the PM, Key was. Brash though was a tad naive to allow the MSM to tie the Brethren to him, else he would have been PM.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:40am
    - MH
      
      Brash bothered by brethren.
      
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      August 16, 2018 2:15pm
- stephieboy
  
  Chuck Bird and Inandout, small wonder that that Brash and you both remain in the 1.1% political wilderness.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:10am
  - Inandout
    
    stepboy, the only ‘small wonder’ you are familiar with is Allah’s 9 year old bedmate.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:07am
    - stephieboy
      
      Inandout , it is your birthright to choose to be ignorant.
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:10am
- KevOB
  
  Don Brash didn’t have to manage during that period.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:53am
- brett68
  
  Brash is a bitter old man.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:29am
  - MCos
    
    Last week he was NZer of the year
    This week he’s a bitter old man
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:51am
    - MCos
      
      The fickle finger of Kiwiblog
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:57am
      - Garbageman
        
        Did brett68 explicitly say last week Brash was to be his NZr of the year if not how about not lumping the entire lot of KB commentators under the one hive mind think that generally applies to left wing mongs & stephieboy (a special kind of mong)
        i will of course withdraw my comment & apologize if you are a close follower of brett68 and know this for a fact
        
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        August 16, 2018 1:01pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  He makes some reasonable points, but the overall rating is hyperbolic.
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:12am
- softail 1450
  
  Chuck tird,,who gives a fuck, you need to get out more often,,,,
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:31am
Komata

Guess who said ‘There will be no strikes on my watch’?

Sorry, no chocolate fish as a prize – they’re made from things that aren’t good for you, ‘Cindy says so (she’s THOUGHT about it…)
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August 16, 2018 8:58am
Richard

Good opinion write up on the Bridges Leak. It really was a pointless and stupid leak by someone very desperate.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/106254413/editorial-simon-bridges-expenses-leak-seems-like-a-bit-of-a-beatup
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August 16, 2018 8:58am
- Surely Knott
  
  The full expenses are published now. What am I missing? How can Ardern and Twyford , and Ron Mark have 0 expenses recorded.
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:01pm
  - Paulus
    
    As Ministers their figures are not released for a while yet – only Opposition MPs.
    
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    August 16, 2018 2:08pm
Justitia

Reminiscing about the some of the achievements of our last Labour Prime Minister: helped wreck ANZUS, destroyed the Air Force, closed the psychiatric hospitals leaving the mentally ill to the mercies of the prison system and the solace of suicide; wrecked the reciprocal treatment of kiwis under the Trans Tasman Travel Arrangement by refusing to control foreign immigration cooperatively with Australia; made the middle class welfare dependent and went on to score a top UN job. Can Jacinda do better than that? She’s well on the way to destroying the economy in just 9 months.
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August 16, 2018 9:01am
- VicParking
  
  I here there is a opportunity for more UN Wire cutters on the isreal Gazza border. She could use her teeth?
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:04am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  Dismantled the combat wing of our airforce, brought warships without anti-ship or anti-submarine weapons, got rid of tracked vehicles (which fyi are exactly what is needed in winter in NZ and also in South-East and Far-East Asia) from the army…
  
  I mean seriously, warships without anti-ship/anti-submarine… May as well just buy yachts at that point for ‘sea-patrol’ and staff them with MPs and favored civil servants on holiday leave..
  
  At this point we may as well get rid of whatever pretense of a military we have left and save huge amounts of money.
  
  And just be honest about the airforce and rebrand it to ‘Crown Ministerial Airlines’ and merge it with the crown limousine service… And why not, we have a 15mn dollar prime ministerial palace, many of our diplomats (which are former MPs or relatives to MPs) live in multimillion dollar taxpayer owned mansions complete with ‘servants’… Whats wrong with buying an island or two?
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:37am
- KevOB
  
  Taxcinda’s faster acting: good in a pain killer but not a bull in a china shop.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:55am
  - Justitia
    
    Yes, the oil and gas ban so early in her regime was a masterstroke. Can she keep up the momentum?
    
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    August 16, 2018 10:59am
Manolo

Hillary Clinton take two:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/13/trump-dares-ny-gov-cuomo-to-run-against-him-in-2020-says-anybody-that-runs-against-trump-suffers.html

President Trump, speaking at a fundraiser Monday with New York Republicans, dared Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo to run against him for president in 2020, with Trump saying he welcomes the challenge.
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August 16, 2018 9:20am
kevn

Nothing in newspapers about the huge fraud involving Waitangi. Reported at length on TV.
Papers gagged or what? Waitangi is winnie/jones stamping ground. Maybe the perp is a rellie? Or what?
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August 16, 2018 9:28am
- softail 1450
  
  kevn,,YES.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:35am
- softail 1450
  
  Kevn I think you are talking about Tainu’s current problems ….
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:40am
  - kevn
    
    @softail… No. Tainui/king issue is well documented in MSM.
    This is Waitangi. SFO looking at one million plus gone. One individual. Nothing in papers, zip. TV1 had the story.
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:44am
    - kevn
      
      update… There are snippets in NZH and Stuff. A Wally TeAhuru on bail. 1.2 mil gone from Waitangi National Trust, going back to 2016 (they must have junk accounting systems).
      Makes the Tainui/king issue seem small.
      
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      August 16, 2018 10:08am
      - Kabull
        
        I was bemused (and somewhat sad) that one of the MSM sites supported its article with a photo of the Navy guard at a Waitangi Day ceremony – nothing whatsoever to do with the control/management of the Treaty Ground but perhaps an attempt to diminish or shift the focus of the report. Talk about ignorance.
        
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        August 16, 2018 11:58am
    - softail 1450
      
      kevn, you are right this is the 1st I have heard of it…….but who’s surprised?
      
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      August 16, 2018 11:35am
      - Swifty
        
        Be fair, thieves come in all guises. Plenty of euro thieves in the papers these last few years.
        
        I do grant you that stealing off your own whanau takes a special effort – but look at all the white fraudsters who have ripped off friends, family, the elderly etc recently.
        
        Scumbags the lot of them.
        
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        August 16, 2018 12:56pm
    - gravedodger
      
      Maybe on State run TVone only because they could make a link to Key and thereby the Nasty Nats.
      
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      August 16, 2018 12:44pm
- Paulus
  
  Read Tuku Morgan’s letter – was here yesterday.
  What’s Corruption ??
  
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  August 16, 2018 2:10pm
lastmanstanding

Does anyone know about the UN agreement that requires countries to take as many immigrants/refugees from what ever country that the UN decides. I understand it is supported by George Soros who is also financing left wing group to protest for this and also against free speech. It is part of the One World Government that Clark and the others at the UN are promoting.

The agreement is being signed in secret so as not to frighten the horses and like Paris once agreed to no future government can renege without suffering sanctions from the countries who have signed up. The sanctions are part of the agreement to ensure no one can break ranks in the future.
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August 16, 2018 9:30am
- DigNap15
  
  I have heard about it.
  That Soros guy needs to be shot.
  I doubt if Hungary, Poland and Slovakia will sign it, nor will Myanmar.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:42am
  - Nermal
    
    Nor China, Korea, Japan, Saudi Arabia
    
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    August 16, 2018 2:09pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Or Australia.
    Smart buggers, our neighbours.
    
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    August 16, 2018 5:25pm
- brett68
  
  Yep, it’s all here.
  
  Fucking scary how much influence the UN has in the direction of countries.
  
  It’s all planned out and getting implemented as we speak and no one gets a say.
  
  https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/declaration
  
  https://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Migration/Pages/GlobalCompactforMigration.aspx
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:45am
  - Justitia
    
    Thanks brett68. The draft Global Compact is an appalling document. It would force countries to accept illegal migrants and not to detain them. It’s another nail in the coffin of the sovereign state by the globalists. What’s Winston doing about this?
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:07am
  - stephieboy
    
    brett68 , it states to be ” negotiated and agreed upon ”
    
    Can’t see the US or Australia or even NZ complying without further negotiations and agreements!
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:16am
- wiseowl
  
  I have referred to it several times on KB Lastman.
  I think it is the most serious issue before us at the present time.
  It has had good coverage in Australia as Dutton has said they will not sign it in its present form.
  At least it is getting coverage over there.
  It will mean the UN will make decisions on immigration for us and in effect take away our sovereignty.
  National should be up in arms over this Compact but so far not a dickie bird.
  All part of the one world government plan.
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:37am
softail 1450

Jacinda was moaning on radio about how unfair it is that a 8 million dollar home in Queenstown was bought by an overseas multi millionaire,so what do this cabal of idiots do ? oh that’s right ban overseas buyers so that only Kiwi multi millionaires can purchase it.
Come on COL morons, a Tongan family from Otara should be able to buy it with a little help from taxpayers surely…..
If this shit wasn’t so ridiculous it would be funny,
oh wait,,,,,
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August 16, 2018 9:32am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  That’s eight million dollars that the previous owner will now be investing in NZ, instead of it being invested in some other country if the sale had not happened.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:42am
cas

I see the low life woman involved in the incident was the same low life who kidnapped the pensioner in Hastings.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106304967/blind-elderly-man-thought-he-was-going-to-be-killed-in-robbery

Is this one of Andrew’s potential catch and release prisoners. I would think she should be locked up for a long time. Seems to specialise in picking on the elderly.
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August 16, 2018 9:37am
- Lance
  
  Beyond filth
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:19pm
Hugh Pavletich

UPDATE …UNITED STATES: More than Six (Undersupplied) Homes Missing From U.S. Housing Market … Zillow

Ben Carson Calls Out Zoning Regulations for Driving Up Housing Costs – Hit & Run : Reason.com

https://reason.com/blog/2018/08/14/ben-carson-calls-out-zoning-regulations

Ben Carson, the secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), wants to pare back Obama-era housing regulations that he says do not do enough to address the real driver of housing costs: zoning regulations.

On Monday, Carson announced that he was looking to revise the 2015 Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) rule, which sought to combat housing segregation by requiring local governments to perform extensive (and expensive) reviews on how concentrated their neighborhoods were along class and racial lines, and then to develop action plans to create more “balanced and integrated living patterns.” Local governments that failed to fulfill either requirement would be cut off from a number of federal housing grant programs. … read more via hyperlink above …

Secretary Carson Gets Housing Affordability Right | Cato @ Liberty

https://www.cato.org/blog/secretary-carson-gets-housing-affordability-right

By Vanessa Brown Calder

Something promising is happening at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Recent New York Times and Wall Street Journal articles suggest Secretary Ben Carson and his team are impressing on policymaker’s minds that 1) local policymakers have created housing affordability problems and 2) local policymakers can solve those problems. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/links-15-august-2018/#comment-3165996 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_15_august_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2282471

More than Six Million (Undersupplied) Homes Missing From U.S. Housing Market … Zillow

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/more-than-six-million-homes-missing-from-us-housing-market-300696445.html
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August 16, 2018 9:43am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND: Foreign speculators crushed as Melbourne’s land bubble bursts – Leith van Onselen – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  Foreign speculators crushed as Melbourne’s land bubble bursts – Leith van Onselen – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/foreign-speculators-crushed-melbournes-land-bubble-bursts/#comment-3166754
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  I noted last month how Melbourne was threatening a re-run of the 1890s land bubble and bust.
  
  This came after Melbourne’s median lot price per square metre had surged a whopping 29.3% in the year to March, with the typical median Melbourne lot value surging to $359,000, and the price of a new house-and-land package in Melbourne “pushed to well above $500,000 (despite smaller lots) making a new home unaffordable for many”.
  
  It also came after Rich Lister, Nigel Satterley, last month stated that his Satterley Property Group would start offering Melbourne lots as small as 80 square metres – less than a fifth of the size of a traditional lot – to ensure house-and-land packages in its estates remained affordable to local residents.
  
  Well, it’s all starting to come a cropper, with foreign speculators behind the surge in Melbourne lot values “panicking” as prices fall and settlement looms, From The AFR: … read more via hyperlink above …
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  NEW ZEALAND: The controversial Overseas Investment Amendment Bill has passed its third reading with 65 votes for and 57 against and will become law in a matter of weeks | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/95352/controversial-overseas-investment-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading-65
  
  The Government’s bill banning foreigners from buying New Zealand homes is now set to become law in weeks after passing its third reading in the House on Wednesday.
  
  The Overseas Investment Amendment Bill was passed with Labour, New Zealand First and the Greens’ 63 in favour and National and Act’s 57 in Opposition.
  
  Speaking in support of the bill, Minister of Trade and Export Growth David Parker reiterated that owning a house in New Zealand is “a privilege, not a right.”
  
  “We believe it’s the birth right for New Zealanders to buy homes in New Zealand in a market that is shaped by New Zealand buyers, not by international price pressures.” … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:27am
  - Dave Mann
    
    It only needs two people to report this prick three times each and his whole thread will vanish. Report-reload-report again.
    
    Will someone else please help out? I’ve used up my three reports.
    
    And please note that I’m not trying to shut down free speech. This asshole has got his own blog and he’s welcome to wank off on that. Just fuck off and stop hijacking other people’s blogs, you fuckwit.
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:33pm
    - Garbageman
      
      I got ya back Dave and i make a point of never reporting, even ztev the ex resident slime-ball never got one but your comment about sums it up
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:10pm
rangitoto

Will RVD get even more absoludely fustraded today?
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August 16, 2018 9:53am
Philview

Jacinda said to teachers there is no “Them and Us” just “Us”. That sounds like an open cheque book policy, name your price we are paying.
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August 16, 2018 9:54am
Monique Watson

Fuck off.
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August 16, 2018 9:54am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Anyone in particular or are you addressing the crowd? If so then how do you want us to fuck off?
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:06am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Morning Monique, Did hubby find your booze you’d hidden in the shower? ?
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:04am
  - Garbageman
    
    Monique is not the messiah just a naughty wee girl
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:14pm
The Heat

Who falls for this vacuous, patronising crap?

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-jacinda-ardern-in-impromptu-speech-striking-teachers-asks-them-work-govt-move-forward

That video is cringeworthy. It’s idiot nation, led by by some cartoon parody of a Comms strategy.
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August 16, 2018 9:58am
- Longknives
  
  A lot of people on FB and Twitter taking the piss out of Ardern’s weird choice of clothing and her ‘Jesus Christ Pose’!
  
  Is the gloss finally wearing off??
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:01am
  - Garbageman
    
    Wot chu mean weird cloths choice cuz i always wear fkn slippers when addressing the mere mortals from my pedestal while my adoring compliant media and masses look on
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:21pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Didn’t she say she was unavailable because she was going to be in the Wairarapa? Now she’s saying she only changed her mind at the last minute after seeing the protestors outside Parliament.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:49am
  - The Heat
    
    And she had come down from on high to be with the common people.
    
    How privileged they are….
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:15am
    - Longknives
      
      I hear her ego is out of control- Clearly he has bought into her own press and is developing quite the Messiah Complex..
      
      I mean just look at this ridiculous image-
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106286583/jacinda-ardern-changes-her-mind-and-meets-teachers-at-parliament
      
      Except the real Jesus had better fashion sense…
      
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      August 16, 2018 12:13pm
      - kevn
        
        @LK… “COMRADES, lets do this”.
        The image has that look about it. Shouty.
        
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        August 16, 2018 12:26pm
Longknives

So I was making healthy balanced kid’s lunches this morning (as those Lazy Lefty Teachers finally went back to work) with Breakfast TV in the background..

Did I hear right? Some Food Nazi guy telling Hayley Holt (who was nodding and smiling in agreement) that many NZ Schools are now ‘safe zones’ from sugar? And he hopes that soon every NZ School will be?
As in No Sugar Allowed! (No juice, no Muesli Bars etc etc)

I was tempted to throw a couple of Mallowpuffs and a bottle of coke in my kid’s lunchbox out of pure anger at these control freaks!
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August 16, 2018 9:59am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I just wish they’d roll over die.
  But they keep banging on about it.
  
  Some people are just fat and over weight and ugly.
  Why don’t they target them.
  Its not my fault that they eat too much
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:01am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘Its not my fault that they eat too much’
    
    You are right of course, it is an individual who is responsibility for what goes into their pie hole and that is a choice, right Monica?
    
    The irksome bit is where the same individual wants you to pay for those poor choices through doctors,hospitals visits, disability allowances etc. because of their choice to become overweight.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:02am
    - Lance
      
      Trouble with that position is then why not all contact sports players, netball players (buggered ankles and knees aplenty, skiers, cyclists etal, not to mention druggies, alcoholics, bad drivers etc?
      Also who decides the thresholds for overweight?
      Under BMI many All Blacks are obese, some even morbidly obese.
      Sounds simple, alas would be fraught to implement.
      
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      August 16, 2018 12:27pm
    - MH
      
      thank God for the Maori King, who will provide alms for the poor and overweight,.. stomach staples anyone?
      
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      August 16, 2018 2:28pm
EAD_TWO

Poignant tribute to the #SkyKing

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/08/14/nah-im-just-a-white-guy-sky-king-and-white-male-suicide/
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August 16, 2018 10:01am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO,
  this from your link.
  
  “One reason is that the Alt-Right, more than any other Western cultural or political group, is already keenly aware that White men are being forced into existential crisis by contemporary social and political developments. This crisis is quite literally killing us. ”
  
  Utter bollux !
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:04am
  - Komata
    
    Duty SB
    
    One of the key words you used in your final sentence is wrong. Its use does you no favours.
    
    You might care to discover which one it might be…
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:24pm
Fletch

Hardship grants up massively in NZ since last June. Something like an extra 25%.

Official figures from the Ministry of Social Development show 26,432 more hardship grants for food were given out compared to the June quarter last year, bringing the total to 137,424 grants between March and June this year.

Food is consistently the main reason for needing hardship assistance, MSD’s report said.

Last week the Auckland City Mission said it had distributed 15,879 emergency food parcels during the last year, nearly 3000 more than the previous 12 months.

That is a 22 percent increase and the highest in its 98-year history, Auckland City Mission chief executive Chris Farrelly said.

“There is a hunger crisis in our country.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/364205/need-for-food-assistance-on-the-rise

But the country is doing so well according to Jacinda and co.
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August 16, 2018 10:03am
- kevn
  
  @Fletch… Must be hard for JA to swallow this data.
  
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  August 16, 2018 10:13am
  - RalphT
    
    No, no, it’s not my fault; it’s the result of years of neglect by National…
    
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    August 16, 2018 10:36am
  - RF
    
    Kevn
    
    I was tempted to comment on your post at 10.13 but I am a gentleman.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:45am
    - Monique Watson
      
      haha, I’m not. Go fer gold.
      
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      August 16, 2018 12:25pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Price of fags and gas has gone up and I have no idea what a tat costs, can’t afford food .
  
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  August 16, 2018 11:04am
  - DigNap15
    
    And now WINZ will hand out free money and grants etc with gay (ford) abandon as we have to look after our benes who voted for us.
    
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    August 16, 2018 11:25am
    - Paulus
      
      Thought that free money is an unrepayable loan !
      
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      August 16, 2018 2:15pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Sell breastmilk.
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:16pm
- backster
  
  Fewer obese people round then.
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:08pm
- Manolo
  
  Didn’t Ardern, the accidental PM, promise she would eradicate poverty?
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:34pm
- Garbageman
  
  Or they want their pound of flesh + side of fries for helping vote this shower of shit into power after being sucked into their caring Govt bollocks
  
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  August 16, 2018 1:28pm
timmydevo

My biggest concern as an ex-fulltime teacher is that the cause of many of the issues lies in senior management of schools creating many extra layers of requirements, in the hope it proves that they are great “leaders”. The badge of a 4-5 year ERO review is one many strive for.

An example of this is that schools are to report to parents twice a year on their child’s progress. There are large amounts of schools exceeding these requirements – termly reports plus twice yearly parent conferences. These take large amounts of work for teachers, but make the senior management team look great.

Many senior leaders put tricky/useless teachers in the too-hard basket. It is next to impossible to get rid of a teacher. Stale teachers stick around, and the only way that some can get rid of them is to give them a reference and make them their next school’s problem. However, it can be done… and it needs to be done more.

If senior managers cut the red-tape, lowered their requirements, and expected teachers to TEACH quality lessons (and appraised/trained/fired some teachers), it would at least be a start.
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August 16, 2018 10:29am
Manolo

stephieboy rejoices:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4641728/Number-Muslims-Australia-soars-Census-2016.html

The latest census figures reveal the Muslim population in Australia has soared to more than 604,000 people, overtaking Buddhism as the most popular non-Christian religion.

The number of Muslims living in the country has almost doubled from 341,000 in the the 2006 census.
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August 16, 2018 11:24am
DigNap15

That’s 604,000 too many.
I’d hate to think what it is here.
It used to be 40,000
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August 16, 2018 11:26am
rightoverlabour

Hipkins is a cunt.

I withdraw and apologise. Hipkins is not a cunt. I am really, really sorry for calling Hipkins a cunt, and I hope everybody reads my apology where I withdraw and apologise for calling Hipkins a cunt.

Twat
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August 16, 2018 12:14pm
- Lance
  
  No no no..
  We must be professional here.
  You need to call Hipkins a vagina
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:30pm
  - kevn
    
    @Lance…. Gunt seems acceptable?
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:13pm
    - Garbageman
      
      I thought a Gunt was the fat overhanging Guts you had to lift up to get access to the lady parts, i see Whaleoil selling tote bags for the supermarket with that word on in the Greens font most amusing
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:36pm
  - Psycho Milt
    
    Cunt and vagina aren’t the same thing. That’s one reason cunt’s such a handy word.
    
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    August 16, 2018 1:30pm
- KevOB
  
  You watch too much Parliament. Yesterday should be banned.
  
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  August 16, 2018 1:44pm
- timmydevo
  
  National did this with “stupid little girl”, repeating it wherever they could. So yeah… nah… no biggie.
  
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  August 16, 2018 2:22pm
Monique Watson

I was under the impression you called Hipkins a Cunt. Capital C. With a “UNT”.

My mistake.
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August 16, 2018 12:21pm
Monique Watson

Haha. Some of my favourite kids candies over her are called:, “Trolli”.
As in, “Trollied”.
Tax that!
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August 16, 2018 12:24pm
Fletch

The Trump economy a winner all around –

Buoyant consumer sentiment boosted retail sales more than expected in July, while bigger than expected productivity gains point toward lower inflation and possible wage gains.
Retail sales, which are the total receipts at stores that sell merchandise and related services to final consumers, rose 0.5 percent in July, according to data released by the Commerce Department Wednesday. Economists had expected sales to rise by just 0.1 percent. The sales numbers were so strong that they exceeded the top range of expectations of economists surveyed by Bloomberg.

Outside of auto and gas sales, retail sales grew an even stronger 0.6 percent.

Productivity, which has had very small gains or even retreated in recent years, rose 2.9 percent in the most recent quarter compared with the prior quarter. That topped expectations for gains of 2.5 percent and was far above the paltry 0.4 percent increase in the first quarter. Productivity measures the growth of labor efficiency in producing goods and services. Rising productivity can hold back inflationary pressures even when the labor market is tight. It can also lead to higher wages in the longer run.

Unit labor costs, a measure that reflects the labor costs of producing each unit of output, was expected to decline 0.2 percent, after declining 0.3 percent in the prior quarter. Instead, it declined 0.9 percent. That too is an indicator that inflation is likely to remain tame.

The Federal Reserves New York State manufacturing survey also highlighted economic strength and showed no signs of stress from tariffs or anecdotal reports of parts shortages. The survey came in at 25.6, moving higher when economists had expected a decline to 20 from the prior reading of 22.6. The survey asks 200 manufacturing executives for their views on business conditions.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/15/july-retail-sales-boom-productivity-soars-above-expectations/

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/prod2.pdf
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August 16, 2018 12:30pm
Manolo

The vile and reviled Mr Corbyn:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/14/jeremy-corbyn-condemned-image-emerges-making-muslim-brotherhood2/

The Labour leader was pictured making the four-fingered Rabbi’ah sign, a symbol of the Muslim Brotherhood, during a visit to Finsbury Park mosque in his Islington North constituency.
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August 16, 2018 12:31pm
- Fletch
  
  He also was present at a ceremony in 2014 which honored the Palestinian “Black September” terrorists behind the massacre of Israeli athletes in 1972. He personally laid a wreath there and joined in Islamic prayer.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6048807/Photos-Labour-leader-Corbyn-tribute-event-Palestine-martyrs-linked-Munich-massacre.html
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:41pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , if you look more closely we get this,
    
    “Mr Corbyn insisted he was at the service to commemorate 47 Palestinians killed in an Israeli air strike on a Tunisian PLO base in 1985”
    
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    August 16, 2018 12:44pm
    - Fletch
      
      Yeh, but it’s bullshit. No one really believes it.
      
      Despite Mr Corbyn’s previous claim he was at the cemetery to pay tribute to victims of an Israeli air strike at a separate memorial, the reporter for The Daily Mail who visited the cemetery said the four-year-old photos clearly showed the politician standing in front of a plaque memorialising the “Black September” terrorists of 1972.
      
      The newspaper’s report also claimed the separate memorial cited by Mr Corbyn was 15 yards away from where he was actually photographed with the wreath.
      
      https://www.independent.co.uk/infact/jeremy-corbyn-munich-massacre-terrorists-anti-semitism-labour-palestinian-cemetery-a8489456.html
      
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      August 16, 2018 1:04pm
      - Psycho Milt
        
        I suggest that everyone reading this blog who’s outraged at Jeremy Corbyn attending memorial ceremonies for people they don’t like should firmly resolve not to vote Labour in a British general election until he’s removed as leader. That’ll show him!
        
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        August 16, 2018 1:28pm
- UpandComer
  
  Vile.
  
  So why do all the people complaining about Corbyn openly cultivating an identity bloc of votes themselves vote to bring in as many muslims as possible?
  
  It can’t be taken seriously. No one takes it seriously.
  
  ‘Oh noes, Corbyn is fraternising with the people we brought in and want to fratnerise’.
  
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  August 16, 2018 2:04pm
DigNap15

Ha
US business confidence rising and ours falling!
Jacinda needs to wave her hands some more.
And have some conversations
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August 16, 2018 12:39pm
- rangitoto
  
  The shine is wearing off Robertson’s ventriloquist dummy.
  
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  August 16, 2018 12:42pm
- Fletch
  
  Someone needs to ask her why she doesn’t adopt some of Trump’s strategies? I mean, they are doing so well. But nah, it’s more important to enact liberal policies that feel good without stopping to question if they will actually work or not.
  
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  August 16, 2018 1:03pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, like tariff wars with the US, China and Japan?
    
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    August 16, 2018 3:20pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Tax cuts would be a good start.
      
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      August 16, 2018 3:36pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Benefiting whom and paid for how?
        
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        August 16, 2018 4:11pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “Benefiting whom and paid for how?”
        
        Benefitting everyone except bludgers. Paid for by less robbery.
        
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        August 16, 2018 5:18pm
Monique Watson

I’m fustrated. I’m undertaking a process. I have five kids. I’m hugely fustrated.
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August 16, 2018 1:00pm
Monique Watson

Ha! In answer to WaikatoGirl. This is how I know I’m a drunk. I knew he’d look in the shower so I moved my stash to a completely obvious place. The Fridge. Completely befuddled Mr Watson.
So far I’m ahead.
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August 16, 2018 1:15pm
- waikatogirl
  
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  In plain sight Monique. Just hide it behind something in the fridge he won’t use… can’t see for looking.
  
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  August 16, 2018 3:11pm
- nasska
  
  There’s an easy way to tell if you’re a drunk or an alcoholic.
  
  Alcoholics go to meetings.
  
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  August 16, 2018 5:29pm
kevn

@MW… ‘pobably’ was another I heard from JA.
Nekminit Oxford Dictionary?
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August 16, 2018 1:15pm
- Fletch
  
  I am surprised at what some people come up with on Facebook. I’ve seen someone use the phrase, “to all intense and purposes”…
  
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  August 16, 2018 1:40pm
rangitoto

Interesting tweet from JC:

“Winston Peters just now seeming to confirm that NZF candidates have to sign a contract to pay $300,000 to NZF if they fall out with NZF. A Little rightly saying it could be a breach of Parliamentary Privilege”
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August 16, 2018 2:27pm
- waikatogirl
  
  What if Winston instigates the falling out? I image Winston would take umbrage quite easily when it suited him. ?
  
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  August 16, 2018 3:13pm
- fernglas
  
  Almost certainly unenforceable as contrary to the public interest.
  
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  August 16, 2018 7:57pm
- KevOB
  
  As a contract term it appears contrary to public policy and not enforceable.
  
  It’s a likely affront to Parliament too.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:16pm
Philview

100 people try to storm the office of a Dunedin accountant related to the dairy farm conversion in the Mackenzie Country. Mob rule is really starting to take over in New Zealand.

https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/dairy/protesters-demand-stop-dairy-farm-development
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August 16, 2018 3:00pm
- alex Masterley
  
  It is pretty rude what these people do to support their views.
  I’m pleased the bloke had the sense to be somewhere else when the horde arrived.
  They may think they are peaceful but having a mob arrive would be very disconcerting to staff and indeed considered to be quite threatning.
  
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  August 16, 2018 3:11pm
- Longknives
  
  The guy should have just thrown on some Op-Shop clothes mismatched with an extremely ugly pair of boots and gone out to address the Protesters!
  
  A patronising Jesus Christ pose and a few calls of ‘Comrades,Comrades’ ‘I’m actually with you’ would have seen him right!
  
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  August 16, 2018 3:50pm
- KevOB
  
  This once would have been called a riot.
  Where were the Police?
  NZ cannot be shut down by thuggery physical, verbal or political.
  
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  August 16, 2018 8:14pm
Manolo

Two-faced Twitter:
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/402072-the-hill-interview-twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-explains-what-got-alex-jones
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August 16, 2018 3:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, a two-faced twitter that your wonder-worker is happy to continue using.
  
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  August 16, 2018 3:18pm
Fletch

ps, in case you didn’t read, the White House has revoked the security clearance of John Brennan 🙂
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August 16, 2018 3:43pm
- cha
  
  Trump’s statement revoking John Brennan’s security clearance is dated July 26.
  
  Three weeks ago, but I guess it’s just a coincidence because Omarosa’s book and recordings have nothing to do with the announcement, eh, Fletch?
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dkqi_RuW4AIuhaF.jpg
  
  btw, during the wife beater incident, Huckabooboo Sanders said the White House doesn’t handle security clearances.
  
  She said it’s up to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkqdA5sWsAAyqgi.jpg
  
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  August 16, 2018 4:05pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    You seem easily confused.
    External Agencies do the checking but the President- as Head of the Executive, has the power to revoke.
    I note your media release is not on WH letterhead?
    Anyway, I think we would need another 911 for some media outlets to be distracted from Omarosa. Interesting she got fired by Clinton a few times.
    But good news Cha
    We’ve found the Russian collusion.
    //
    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/08/13/trump_tower_meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html
    
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    August 16, 2018 6:39pm
Swifty

$772,000 gift to a private company by Shane Jones and Winston:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106276766/blue-mussel-processing-plant-funded-through-provincial-growth-fund

Not a loan? Not capital in return for a stake in the business? No repayment required?

A total disgrace. And if it goes tits up or is sold off taxpayers will write off the loss? Who am I kidding, the money is gone for good as of today.
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August 16, 2018 3:50pm
- Viking2
  
  Kinda like the Calligham fund where taxpayers were ripped when the businesses they helped sold out.
  
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  August 16, 2018 5:37pm
Happychappy

The billion dollar bribe slush fund must be all spent this year or has Winston demanded more. I said on the earlier story this morning that why would you vote for not so honest people of the likes of Peters, Jones and Parker to distrbute Tax Payers dollars with the history these people have displayed. Now we also see Peters dictator skills with making his wannabe party candidates sign a agreement to pay a $300,000 fine if they are expelled from Party or leave Parliament through a disagreement with the Party. Why do people revere a germ like Peter when he has no respect for anyone apart from himself.
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August 16, 2018 4:30pm
Morrissey

Who’s going to kill the old and sick?

The army? A special Police Death Squad? Are we going to reinstate the job of hangman?

Surely doctors can’t be expected to kill people?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11714187
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August 16, 2018 5:14pm
- nasska
  
  We’ll just place their beds close to a high cliff & play them a CD compilation of readings of the blog comments of Morrissey Breen.
  
  Nature will take it’s course. 🙂
  
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  August 16, 2018 6:23pm
Viking2

If you are from the Wairarapa here are some old photos wroth a look.

https://www.facebook.com/photosoldwellingtonregion/photos/a.739770189444588.1073741832.624647914290150/973746362713635/?type=3&theater
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August 16, 2018 5:35pm
Hugh Pavletich

It is not a question of whether Auckland’s house prices fall, but by how much: Analyst – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106664

It is not a question of whether Auckland’s house prices will fall but by how much, a financial services company says.

Australasian Trading Management warned investors in its Daily Market Insights home values had “already pulled back significantly” in Australia’s hot Sydney and Melbourne markets and the “price correction” was spreading to Auckland.

It pointed to figures by Auckland agents Barfoot & Thompson, showing the city’s median home value hit $810,000 last month – a 10 per cent fall from the market peak price of $900,000 in March last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Foreign speculators crushed as Melbourne’s land bubble bursts – Leith van Onselen – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/foreign-speculators-crushed-melbournes-land-bubble-bursts/#comment-3166754
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NEW ZEALAND: The controversial Overseas Investment Amendment Bill has passed its third reading with 65 votes for and 57 against and will become law in a matter of weeks | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/95352/controversial-overseas-investment-amendment-bill-has-passed-its-third-reading-65
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August 16, 2018 5:47pm
GazzaW

Mallard was in a liverish mood with the CoL front bench today. Peters and Hipkins told to withdraw and apologise, Jones castigated twice and forfeited a total of eight bonus questions to the Nats. Angry Andy was fair fuming when he got a real bollocking for making fun of Nick Smith’s pronunciation of ‘obnoxious’ and made to apologise twice. To top it all off Woods got cut short for taking too long to answer a patsy question and told tosit down and the rest of the questions curtailed.

Mallard left the Chamber for about ten minutes and you would have to wonder what it was all about.
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August 16, 2018 6:43pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And while he was away Anne Tolley did a masterful (and unbiased) job of dealing with the drunken dwarf.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:38pm
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    Went out for a dump!
    
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    August 16, 2018 9:43pm
VicParking

Labour is atarting to organise another advisory group. On fresh Water this time. The outcome nodoubt will be the same as:
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/08/15/venezuelans-foregoing-water-taps-run-dry/
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August 16, 2018 7:32pm
cha

Meet Draco, the bush plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAZEfL3nmhg

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=draco+bush+plane

The builders channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSvdee86uThqIrloZjWwNVg/videos
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August 16, 2018 8:06pm
Hugh Pavletich

London house prices suffer largest drop in nine years … UK Telegraph (behind paywall)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/08/15/london-house-prices-suffer-largest-drop-nine-years/

House prices in London fell 0.7pc in the 12 months to June – the largest annual fall in the city’s house prices since September 2009.

Three of London’s central boroughs had double-digit drops in prices as the reversal in the capital’s fortunes continued. The City of London fell 23.8pc, Kensington and Chelsea dropped 13.9pc and the City of Westminster slid 12.1pc, according to data from the Office for National Statistics and the Land Registry. … read more via hyperlink above … (behind paywall) …
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August 16, 2018 8:08pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Tell someone who gives a fuck.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:39pm
Fletch

In Australia, euthanasia bill defeated in the senate –

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/15/euthanasia-bill-in-doubt-as-two-senators-reverse-position
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August 16, 2018 8:14pm
- nasska
  
  You’d change your views on euthanasia if Trevor Mallard was sick.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:06pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Aufstehen – stand up
German Left starting new movement to limit migration into Germany.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-new-aufstehen-movement-of-sahra-wagenknecht-is-shaking-up-leftists/a-45047762

(The movement name translates to E tū – The name of a NZ Trade Union)
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August 16, 2018 8:59pm
rightoverlabour

I have been completely wrong about Winston. I have derided him and called him a dictator. How could I have been so blind. $300,000. He is just a financial genius, not a dictator. Just a marriage of sorts with a large pre nup….. And the fucking morons agreed to that? And we give these fucking morons $1 Billion to waste on frivolous pet projects. And Jacinda the puppet (SLG) smiles and waves and prepares almond milk. And the nightmare recurs day, after day, after day…
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August 16, 2018 9:21pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And Sir Bill English was in the House today to make a presentation on the euthanasia bill.
  Whilst I might not totally agree with his views on this topic (I’m not a Catholic), he reminded me why our country is by far the poorer that he is not still our PM.
  He is Prime Ministerial, the complete opposite of the current incumbent.
  
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  August 16, 2018 9:43pm
Monique Watson

Haha. I’m not really drinking. I joke about it, and I wish it were so as it might help my middle-age insomnia. But I know from experience that you can hit me like a rhino and I won’t pass out.

Q: You know what’s fun about being sober?
A: Nothing.
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August 16, 2018 10:28pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/macro-afternoon-474/#comment-3167350 … and …

How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783

… extract …

… How on earth do we do that?

It’s easier than you might think.

Let’s break down a home into its three core components: the building itself, the infrastructure (including consenting) and the land.

Starting with the building, it currently costs around $2000/sq m to build a simple standalone home in Auckland. Apartments are more, say from $2500-$4000/sq m depending on how complex.

That means a moderate 150sq m standalone home or a not-very-family-friendly 100sq m apartment will max out the $300,000 limit of the bottom quartile.

So build costs have to come down.

KiwiBuild will be a big asset in this regard. The scale at which KiwiBuild is being delivered is already attracting investment in off-site manufacturing, standardisation and much greater building efficiency.

Our target should be $1200sq m, which would bring us more into line with overseas.

This means our 150sq m home will cost $180,000, giving us $120,000 for infrastructure and land.

Looking at land, KiwiBuild is interesting because the Government is targeting much redevelopment on Crown land, which is very difficult to value. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build

…extract …

… Generation Homes is building 300 to 400 houses a year. We could easily double that within our existing resources if there were infrastructure funding assistance from councils for new affordable housing developments. …

… To get real efficiency and to be able to build affordable houses, building companies need to be building 50 to 100 houses or more in one development.

This productivity problem is forced upon builders and we need creative solutions to address it. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not
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August 16, 2018 10:28pm
- Nostradamus
  
  How on earth do we do that?
  It’s easier than you might think.
  
  Yes, it’s easy, we click the red downtick button!
  
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  August 17, 2018 12:54am
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND … Faced with an affordability crisis, New Zealand bans foreigners from buying homes – The Washington Post

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/links-17-august-2018/#comment-3167441

NEW ZEALAND … Faced with an affordability crisis, New Zealand bans foreigners from buying homes – The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/16/faced-with-an-affordability-crisis-new-zealand-bans-foreigners-from-buying-homes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.60b66711faac

It is not a question of whether Auckland’s house prices fall, but by how much: Analyst – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106664

How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
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August 17, 2018 3:10am
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: House prices falling in 98% of Sydney and Melbourne suburbs – MacroBusiness

Posted at … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_17_august_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2284270

AUSTRALIA: House prices falling in 98% of Sydney and Melbourne suburbs – MacroBusiness

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/house-prices-falling-in-98-of-sydney-and-melbourne-suburbs/

Via Herald Sun:

SYDNEY and Melbourne have been the powerhouse for Australia’s booming property market but a new report shows only 17 suburbs across the two cities are seeing increased prices.

With just a handful of suburbs among Sydney’s 700 showing steady rises in property values, experts say this continues to highlight a steady downward trend that’s been under way for three years.

Instead it’s the smaller capital cities that have previously underachieved that are emerging, most notably Adelaide and Perth. … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 17, 2018 9:50am
Hugh Pavletich

Faced with an affordability crisis, New Zealand bans foreigners from buying homes – The Washington Post

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_17_august_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2284278

Faced with an affordability crisis, New Zealand bans foreigners from buying homes – The Washington Post

Posted (early this morning) … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/links-17-august-2018/#comment-3167441

NEW ZEALAND … Faced with an affordability crisis, New Zealand bans foreigners from buying homes – The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/16/faced-with-an-affordability-crisis-new-zealand-bans-foreigners-from-buying-homes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.60b66711faac

It is not a question of whether Auckland’s house prices fall, but by how much: Analyst – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106664

How to get a (NZ)$650,000 KiwiBuild-style house down to an affordable (NZ)$300,000 – Stephen Sellwood of Infrastructure New Zealand – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12107783
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