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duggledog

Lisa Owen to replace John Campbell on Checkpoint –

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/363990/lisa-owen-to-replace-john-campbell-on-checkpoint

Screech-owl Owen’s a shoo-in for this job; she displayed her progressive / aggressive / liberal credentials daily whilst hosting the afternoon show on Radio Live with Ryan Bridge.
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August 14, 2018 8:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Greenstone or bone carving around her neck?
  
  Picking out a chin tat will make it a certainty!
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:06am
  - Lance
    
    There was a McPhail and Gadsby gag back in the day.
    A PC presenter, flourishing Maori greetings and espousing far left comments. Each time the camera returned to the presenter, his bone carving around his neck got bigger, and bigger until it was ludicrously large.
    
    I always think of that when I see lefty twats like that.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:10am
    - Jade Warrior
      
      One of my favourite McPhail and Gadsby sketches from the same period involved a stereotypical lefty by the name of Justin D’Lautrec who hosted a mock artsy programme called “The Bones of your Arts”.
      
      He would greet every guest on his show with a “Kia ora” but the guest would invariably respond with “Hello Justin”. A visibly irritated Justin would turn to the camera, sigh heavily and utter an exasperated “Hello” in reply.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:54am
    - Komata
      
      Lance
      
      Was that the ‘KEAora’ gag? (Hilarious at the time. but how little we knew what was to come…)
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:17am
      - Lance
        
        Rusty memory, but I remember this bone carving getting bigger and bigger in an utter mockery of the PC brigade.
        I guess it would be racist hate speech now ?
        
        They also mercilessly mocked Winston and NZ First. Mind you, they had plenty of material.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:39am
      - Lance
        
        I remember Winston appeared on “Ask the Bastard”
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:44am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Didn’t M&G have Hulun and Cullen hiding in a cupboard?
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:52am
      - starboard
        
        Ask the bastard….
        
        https://youtu.be/Ztv7M4QMiAw
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:37am
    - starboard
      
      Classic M&G..clark and cullen
      
      https://youtu.be/DIedNhGqWF0
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:47am
- igm
  
  As a taxpayer I take umbrage paying to support liberal leeches such as these. They are in about the same league as the apology for PM, definitely with an agenda of fiscal ruination for NZ.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:11am
  - starboard
    
    Take a walk down NZ’z memory lane..Fortress NZ
    
    https://youtu.be/JZXpeUQ0tD8
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:53am
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    The amount of upvotes is disturbing, on one hand I agree with you, we shouldn’t have taxpayer funded outlets to campaign for big government socialism and one of the two major parties.
    
    On the other hand given how few people voted for ACT which has campaigned on getting rid of this, I can’t help but suspect that the overwhelming majority of the upvoters are simply national party supporters.
    
    Its not hard folks, its 1/2hr each election, tick the party with the policies you want, ACT was just a few thousand votes away from getting an extra seat, litterally every single vote is counted and counts. You litterally get 100% exactly what you vote for. If you don’t want this just vote against it!
    
    I don’t understand how people can overcomplicate this. Don’t vote for something because your parents voted for it. Don’t vote some way because that is the person in, in your area. Don’t vote because you like the ‘leader’, vote for a policy platform that you agree with….
    
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    August 14, 2018 2:59pm
    - Prince
      
      That doesn’t work. NZ First had a set of policies in their manifesto they had no intention of implementing.
      In fact Peters castigated any candidate who proposed any policy prior to the election.
      
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      August 14, 2018 3:08pm
- Harkman
  
  Lisa Owen is the nz’s worst interviewer, which means a long career ahead of her in local politics.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:55am
- Woz
  
  I note that RNZ describe Owen as an “investigative reporter”. Investigative reporters (at least those of the quality thrown up in NZ) aren’t exactly known for their balance and impartiality. They typically choose a side from the very beginning and desperately stuff square facts into the round hole of the selected agenda. I’ll continue to turn the radio off after The Panel, from which I already receive my regular update on lefty madness.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:26am
Paulus Gnome

I suspect it was Mallard who leaked Bridges travel costs in spite of Adhern making no no no noises.

Impartial? My arse – Jim Royale
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August 14, 2018 8:02am
- godruelf
  
  Just heard Cindy say National had the figures so they must have leaked them.Must have been the same as Winstones super details.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:11am
- Chris R
  
  The real tragedy here is the manner in which the mindless but bigoted msm latched on to the numbers as though it was a scandal in the making. There was just a stark number being bellyached about, no comparisons with the costs of carting Taxinda from kindergarten to kindergarten (I include the United Nations as a kindergarten) nor the fares to dump Shane Jones in various points about the regions. This non-story is today’s lazy nasty crap from our vile apology for a media.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:32am
  - VicParking
    
    Just anothe smoke screen like the plastic bag release to hide the ecomony tanking and Little’s haphazard attempts at treaty settlements.
    Sooner or later it will get so bad that Cindy will need to set a wedding date.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:50am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Or the cost of Cindy being at home on maternity leave. Oh gosh, sorry, can’t mention that can we!!
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:04am
    - pdm
      
      WG – I think you can mention it.
      
      Just don’t take a photo if Mallard is around.
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    What was the cost of the clown car touring New Zealand when the labour leadership was up for grabs?
    
    MP’s all over the place like a mad womans’ sh*t with about as much appeal and sense!
    
    All done on parliamentary expenses while lobbying for the leadership so a bit hypocritical perhaps.
    
    Oh, ah, another day in the labour week then
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:06am
    - Lance
      
      By some remarkable coincidence none of Labour’s expenses has been leaked.
      Funny that
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:56am
    - Piniwi
      
      Or Paulus Gnome such a big crowd needed to open yet another National project completed in the Chatham Island. Not to mention that expensive flag waving tour of the PI ATM’s as the tried to buy them back.
      
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      August 14, 2018 2:11pm
- Nukuleka
  
  It has been a significant error of judgement on Bridges’ part to rack up such a large amount on personal travel no matter what the purpose. He will have known all along that this would bite him in the bum. Key and English would never have been so unwise.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:03am
  - Kabull
    
    It was not personal travel. he has been carrying out his duties as leader of the opposition. There is no ‘persona; benefit’ in that.
    And, by the way, how much are taxpayers coughing up to on the PM’s travel, and that of her partner and child? That is far more questionable.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:49am
    - backster
      
      Or the costs of about 150 review panels of Labour cronies all on between $500 and $1500 a day doing what the elected and list members should be doing.
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:10am
    - Paulus
      
      And isn’t SHE not flying by RNZAF B 757 along with bubba , a nanny and and the sleeze to the UN in New York shortly ?
      
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      August 14, 2018 1:23pm
      - Albert Thrasher
        
        Err that’s her job. That’s what the leader of the country is required to do.
        
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        August 14, 2018 2:16pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        She is. Btw the 757 horribly inefficient which is why commercial airlines have been ditching these as fast as they can. Carbon emissions to the max. I’m sure that won’t concern her.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:46pm
  - KevOB
    
    A new leader introducing himself to the regions is normal and proper. Only the auditor need be concerned as to whether the payments are vouched for.
    The MSM has maintained silence about Simon Bridges, Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition, meet the people tour. I only found out about it by accident that he was coming to Christchurch. My wife was delighted to have the opportunity to hear him despite having fallen for the “Woman”. That secured her blue vote next time.
    
    Freedom of speech means generosity in reporting. Failing to report is a subtle form of bullying–the will of the press owner denying knowledge. How can truth be established in that climate? How can those suppressing differing views make rational decisions? Ideology leaves reason in the starting blocks but fails to finish the race.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:58am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    A hundred grand on pfaffing about, preaching to the already converted and eating too many pies.
    Bridges has done himself, the National Party and the country no favours.
    
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    August 14, 2018 5:59pm
hullkiwi

She can’t be any worse than Campbell?
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August 14, 2018 8:03am
- eandlbufe
  
  TV has now to put up with fake Campbell all over again. Not sure it is safe for me to go back to watching TV, the wife and I are always at logger heads over most of the contents. She has a TV in her office and I have a 50inch one in the lounge that never goes on. Thats the way we have peace in our valley.
  
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  August 14, 2018 1:02pm
Captain Mainwaring

Bridges is toast.
Toured the whole country in Ministerial BMWs and has nothing to show for the exorbitant cost which has now been leaked to the great unwashed.
Sitting on the fence on every issue. Getting carved up by the drunken dwarf, not to mention the media.
He’ll be gone by Christmas, but who’s going to replace him?
Collins is too divisive, Adams is as boring as a flopped pavlova, Bennett is a good deputy, and Kaye is too ‘nice’. So that’s it for the females.
Now for the blokes: Mitchell is a bit inexperienced and talks funny, and there’s really nobody else on the second shelf.
How about Bishop, who seems to have the goods to outshine the lot of them?
He’s younger than Cindy, and will be in the baby-making mood shortly.
And he continues to put the shits up Mallard.
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August 14, 2018 8:04am
- peterwn
  
  Yes, National will lose in 2020 for the same reason that the Right cannot win the Auckland Mayoralty. Seems there are too many factions who think National should do things their way, or they will abstain or support Winston. They forget a Party cannot be all things to all people.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:14am
- Inandout
  
  Simon should drop his recently discovered Maoriness, it is becoming so flaky and anti vote catching. Jacinda tried it with Maorifying Neve, so Simon shouldn’t trail along. Personally I have given him a good run but I now feel he should stand down and be replaced with a more gutsy MP; Simon just can’t cut it.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:19am
  - Justitia
    
    Yes Bridges is a waste of space. He has had so many opportunities to take it to the COl which he has either fumbled or ignored. He is a wooden performer lacking in conviction. We need someone with fire in their belly.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:35am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Simon’s competitive brand advantage has been his Maoriness. (It gave him the ability to be considered for that scholarship to study in the US.)
    
    Unfortunately, image and branding will only really work when there is nothing substantial to differentiate you from the competition.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:18am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Could National import someone who would make a good leader? This is a serious question…. I’m not sure of the protocol or the law. Is this a realistic possibility?
    
    Of not, and if a Freedom Alliance or similar isn’t launched then I really fear that our once beautiful country is fucked.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:46am
    - Lance
      
      Boris Johnson…. hell yeah !!!
      
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      August 14, 2018 11:28am
      - simpleton1
        
        Boris has just posted a letter to Theresa May about her position. 😉
        
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        August 14, 2018 2:56pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Right Inandout the last straw is lapsing into gibberish sprinkled responses. If he is dumb enough to think the native vote count at all then he failed the primary test. The native pandering needs to be rolled back but where many thought the greet and meet tour should have yielded a strong message from voters it seems he has been paying too much attention the COL. The likelihood of a bigger result for “Informal” in 2020 should mean a lot less sitting in the house if we apply proportionality to their tally. All that is needed now is a color choice to add it to the vote paper. ?
    
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    August 14, 2018 2:28pm
- Souvlaki
  
  This analysis is pretty spot on….unfortunately. Gotta be honest. Hosking said it this am ” personality of a smoked kipper”?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  Captain is WO pulling your strings again
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:52am
  - Souvlaki
    
    V P….it would be a mistake imo to allow antithesis to WO to cloud your judgement on this .
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:41am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I can’t stand WO and never look at his blog.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:51am
- Chris R
  
  Captain:I agree Bridges is a total waste of time. I raised this last week and was drowned in down votes so good luck to you this time around! (The costs of Bridges’ travel being irrelevant though.) Why National gave Bridges the leadership is unfathomable. I believe he ought remain and stick to a portfolio or two but he simply does not hold the manner and persona to be a leader. In this regard he is like Little Angry without the aggression. I championed Judith Collins to be the new National leader but she seems not to have the desire to do so. Who else is there?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:57am
  - Inandout
    
    Chris R, I have given this a lot of thought and come to the conclusion (along with others) that Simon was hastily promoted to counteract the ‘Jacinda effect’. This follows on from Jacinda being hastily promoted to counteract the failed ‘Little effect’. As far as I can recall Key didn’t carry his Jewish heritage in a wheelbarrow. It was mentioned but left in the background, not like the Maori brought up regularly by Haimona Piriti.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:31am
- KevOB
  
  What is worse than having got the COL?
  Getting it again although the economic situation will likely get them.
  
  My experience of the tour was that it worked. Did the media tell us that? Should a Leader not use a limo? Ron Mark has an executive aircraft.
  
  We need to support our National Party Parliamentary team.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:08am
Odakyu-sen

Maybe John Campbell will enter politics?
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August 14, 2018 8:06am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  We already have the full compliment of clowns thanks,
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:07am
  - VicParking
    
    Paulus you must know by now that you can always cram on more clown into the car
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:53am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      That would be one way to lower their travel expenses (per head).
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:19am
- hullkiwi
  
  He is breathlessly, earnestly sincere and would like to fix all problems, but he is even more clueless than your average lefty.
  
  With That, I suppose he’d qualify for the Red Melons.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:13am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Oh… you’re talking about John Campbell?
    
    I thought for a moment you were discussing Soimon….
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:58am
- kowtow
  
  He did a long time ago . Advocating for the extreme left.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:16am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    He’s better paid than the politicians, does a lot less hours, and his arse isn’t on the line.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:38am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    A long time ago? Like yesterday?
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:09am
- oldgolfer
  
  I thought he had.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:23am
- Prince
  
  He did a couple of decades ago.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:38am
hullkiwi

Seems Liebore spin machine is desparate to get back at National. So, they leak Bridges travel expenses and leave Jacinda to deny it was them. Listen to Jacinda on Morning Report trying go defend what they did. She couldn’t answer Ferguson with the truth, so she gave half truths.

Just shows they have no clue as to what agenda needs to be set and what this country needs of its government.
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August 14, 2018 8:06am
- Lance
  
  Of course, it isn’t dirty politics when the left do it
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:15am
- cmm
  
  Most transparent lying ever!
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:23am
- Paulus
  
  Mallard the only person, we are told by Cindy, was privy to the figures outside National who did not leak them to the media scum- and he is a well known Labour rate despite being the (impartial Ha! )- Speaker – he is not immune to skullduggery among other things.
  
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  August 14, 2018 1:36pm
  - Albert Thrasher
    
    It’s got Collins written all over this leak.
    
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    August 14, 2018 2:20pm
- Piniwi
  
  @hullkiwi or it might explain where the idea of medals for Public Servants announced yesterday sprang from. Confirming what many suspect are sympathetic square pegs in round holes garnering favor for career advancement.
  
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  August 14, 2018 2:35pm
alloytoo

What’s hiding in the travel expenses that needs the Bridges hit job to happen now?
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August 14, 2018 8:09am
- hullkiwi
  
  Maybe it’s the lack of supportive press Jacinda has not been getting since she came back to work?
  
  Probably there has been a hint the polls are going the wrong way?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:16am
- VicParking
  
  Smoke screen needed as to many COL MP’s have there heads over the parapets
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:54am
- KevOB
  
  What’s hiding in the travel expenses that needs the Bridges hit job to happen now?
  
  Success.
  The media didn’t report the tour, effectively suppressing it. However It was refreshing to hear the new Leader in person. I’m sure that tour is why National is still holding at 45%. I know of at least one convert, my wife, who gave Jacinda the female box tick. She has discerned Jacinda’s inability and Simon the contrary in National.
  
  We all need to get with two ticks blue. The COL are not sleeping. If National supporters are going to spend their resources arguing over leaders they are wasting them. The COL don’t just use MP’s to promote their cause. We need to widen our base too. That means us. It also means not dismembering our present Leader but reinforcing his work and countering the COL in its path. We can get strong and dirty too.
  Loose lips lose lives. To the trenches! ☑️ ☑️
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:30am
flipper

The Terrible, Evil Doctor Trump, and Mr Donald J T.
And something
Even worse

It is obvious that Newt Gingrich does not swallow the “progressive” (You know, the sort that now operates in NZ under the banner of the Peters- Mummy Ardern Regime, and sadly some other NZ places) claims that The Donald is a Racist, a War monger, Evil, and Traitor. In fact, the TDS sufferers like the MSM, academics and council-level politicians, were so bad that they demanded he be impeached – even before he had been sworn into office as 45.

It seems to me that this mob has been brought up on Mad Comics. They are behaving like those characters. But some TDS sufferers are now more ridiculous than the comic characters they resemble. That these views should be spouted by otherwise sensible New Zealanders is indicative of the waste in taxpayer subsidised education spending. Well ……. Of course, because they all live in a (similar) bubble(s) they are susceptible to the political equivalent of ”Cruise Disease” (also known as Child Care disease) – the uncurable (but preventable) gastro-enteritis bug that has been so named because its favourite haunt seems to be cruise liners. Bur few , if any, will bother to read or promote more balanced and knowledgeable views available.
So ……

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/11/newt-gingrich-trump-republican-party-is-arising-out-political-revolution.html

And now a second “So” — who or what is the “even worse” ???
Not a difficult question to answer.
The decision by the bunch of arseholes posing as our Government to “award” five medals each year to the cardigan brigade… and to equate such “service” with VC Willy Apiata is hardly believable.
But the nothing this bunch of unconscionable arseholes would stoop to a new nadir. And remember that Peters and his Minnie of Defence, Mark, have signed off on this.
Any nation where the media is not dominated by milksop children they would have emasculated both Peters and Mark and told the silly little nettle eater to take her suckling and piss of back to Auckland. = permanently
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August 14, 2018 8:10am
- tf78
  
  The five medals will probably be awarded to the Labour mayors throughout the country for doing such a good job of screwing the people.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:47am
- igm
  
  flipper: Don’t forget her suckling is an illegitimate one. Fits the Labour psyche.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:54am
AgainstTheFlow

Is this the 14 August General Debate posting?

I thought we had that yesterday?
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August 14, 2018 8:11am
- cmm
  
  The future isn’t as good as it was.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:15am
- VicParking
  
  Welcome to Groundhog day
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:58am
waikatogirl

If Simon had stayed put in Wellington the Labour spin machine would be saying he wasn’t working and should have been out and about meeting people. Perhaps Simon could have stayed in a tent on his travels. //
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August 14, 2018 8:11am
- godruelf
  
  Sounds like the Crown Limos are the expensive bit must be a nice little “Earner” for whatever department runs them.
  Crown cars could be another option for privatisation.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:31am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    It does not really cost $100k to provide someone with a car and driver for a couple of months. The figure will be based on a daily or hourly rate that somebody has pulled from their backside then multiplied by time used to get a total. And most likely the car and driver are a sunk cost and would have been sitting around doing nothing if Bridges had not used them.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:49am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      In the ‘news’ shot last night, I saw Amy Adams getting into the back seat and the other back seat was occupied as well.
      
      So halve the cost perhaps and add it to AA’s (who will not be bothered in the slightest) and whammo, an expense less than a Te Atau MP’s flower bill to his boyfriend!
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:13am
    - Kabull
      
      Its the problem with modern accural accounting. There is a cost to holding any asset whether it is in use or not. The car Bridges used would have been an expense through depreciation, capital charge, maintenance etc even if it were still sitting int the garage.
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:53am
  - VicParking
    
    Especially when they are all Electric
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:59am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      They probably have to carry a generator around with them to charge them in the provinces, and spend half their time (and most driver hours) waiting for charging.
      
      Big stupid virtue signal.
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:23am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Solar powered generator I take it?
        
        Can’t have any of those nasty hydrocarbons can we.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:51am
      - VicParking
        
        Hot air, the greens have ample flowing from their *unts
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:35am
- Happychappy
  
  There is a fraction of people around that are not happy at seeing there is no infighting in the National ranks and want to se the same senerio as what happened to Phil Goff, David Shearer, David Cunliffe and Andrew Little.You only have to read some of the comments on here to realize that if Judith Collins is picked after dumping Simon another faction will start on her because of the baggage she carries so there will be someone else until we tear National apart the same way it happened at Labour. Then to top it all off you will blame National instead of yourselves for not being ready to govern in the same way as people are blaming Labour right now.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:32am
  - igm
    
    The only baggage Judith carries is crap Fat Fairy ran with, which turned out to be as expected, bullshit!
    She would destroy that unmarried mother (the epitome of a Labourite) in one Parliamentary session.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:40am
    - Viking2
      
      Nope, women get nasty and nasty won’t endear them to anyone.
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:06am
MCos

I heard on the radio this morning that Aretha Franklin is close to death. Back in times gone by she was one of the great soul singers in the times when popular music was so much more meaningful than it has been more recently.
This clip is from three years ago singing Natural Woman before an ecstatic Carole King who wrote the song a long time ago https://youtu.be/XHsnZT7Z2yQ
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August 14, 2018 8:11am
- plc
  
  Ha ha….one of the great.
  
  Try in the Top 2 with Otis
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:25am
- softail 1450
  
  MCos, Always loved her part in the blues brothers and what a voice she possessed, another icon soon gone…..
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:34am
- Woz
  
  Yes, I was saddened to hear that. But there have been signs for a long time now that Aretha was not going to be with us much longer.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:18am
- Longknives
  
  “in the times when popular music was so much more meaningful than it has been more recently.”
  
  Amen to that!
  I was recently trying to explain to my teenage relatives that lip-synching shitty rap-pop, dressing like a hooker, and doing fancy dance routines with thirty back-up dancers on stage does not make you a ‘Singer’!
  
  Aretha Franklin had an incredible voice and was one of the best singers from an era where you simply didn’t make it unless you had crazy amounts of talent..
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:01am
cmm

Last week I listened to RNZ for a few minutes to an economic historian giving the “noble savage” angle about how everyone in hunter gatherer societies were equal and it was only the rise of agriculturalism and industrialization that led to inequality.

What activist bullshit.

Here’s a much more likely scenario:

Ogg is a good hunter. He always has food. He is able to attract a good mate who becomes Mrs Ogg. She is well fed and fertile, making lots of little Ogglets. The Ogglets are well fed and healthy and thrive.

Ugg is a shit hunter. He hardly ever has any food. He only gets a poor mate. Mrs Ugg is under fed, so does not ovulate often. She has few kids. What kids she has are sickly and weak and mostly die soon after birth.

Then comes a harsh winter – the worst for many decades. Food is scarce. The Oggs struggle, but make it through. The Uggs starve to death.

Yep, surviving vs dying sounds like equality to me.

If Ugg had been born in the last 200 years, he might have been a crap hunter but maybe he would have been a reasonable baker. He would have had more opportunities to thrive.

Surely that’s more equal than dying?
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August 14, 2018 8:12am
- cmm
  
  Good morning stephie.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:13am
  - cmm
    
    Yes, you’re right it does look like a cracker day.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:16am
    - cmm
      
      Good idea. I’ll have another cup of tea.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:18am
- hullkiwi
  
  So, they just skipped over the feudal middle ages and reformation in Europe. No wonder people’s perspectives of the world, we just ignore the inconvenient parts in our narrative.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:21am
- Simon
  
  “Ugg is a shit hunter”
  
  Yes but as Marx has explained Ogg exploited Ugg’s labour by using him as bait for big game. Ogg unfairly got the lions share of the lion and Ugg got his arm ripped off.
  
  It is essential that the fruits from the means of production must be shared equally. Ogg’s bow & arrows must sometime be used by Ugg & sometimes Ogg must be the bait.
  
  Sure the village starved every other week but more importantly everyone in village starved equally.
  
  In the end Ogg tried to move away & Ugg had to build a wall around the village to prevent Ogg leaving. Ugg & Ogg now queue for food but the good news is Ardern wants to have a conversion around a Hunting for all agenda.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:42am
  - hullkiwi
    
    News alert, Jacinda has banned hunting because it is not good for the environment.
    
    It is a “captain’s call”, it feelz like we are depleting all the food source and the villagers are adding to global warming by lighting fires to cook the meat.
    
    Further too much red meat is not good for the villagers, as a scientific test showed there was a chance they may get cancer, and we have to save Ugg from losing his other arm (health & safety). However, as yet Jacinda has not thought up an alternate food source, so she will set up a working group that will report back next winter.
    
    There that feelz right.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:03am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Ogg and Ugg were mostly there to defend their tribe against tribe next door. Their contribution to food gathering was likely <20% – women collected and prepared most calories from less sexy sources than hunting. Eg read F.E Maning's account of 1830's Maori in the Hokianga – the non-slave men of the tribes did little but practice martial arts.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:46am
  - cmm
    
    It depends very much on where they live.
    
    Hunter-gatherer societies in areas with more berries etc would certainly tend to get more calories from plant matter and that would be women’s work.
    
    Those that are more hunting based (eg. Eskimos/Kalahari Bushmen) would tend to get more calories from men’s work.
    
    But regardless of who actually fetches the calories (or defends the tribe), the basics are still the same: there was less equality back then.
    
    Maori enslaved other Maori- not much equality there. Some women were better at finding/digging up roots than others – no equality there.
    
    In modern-day Africa women carry bundles of firewood for miles on their heads. A strong woman will carry more wood than a weak woman. A strong woman will be able to plant and raise more food than a weak one.
    
    In the 1500s a strong man could earn more as a labourer than a weak man because he could dig more ditches in a day.
    
    It is the modern day conveniences that have made things like strength less important.
    
    Now we bleat about inequality because someone has a slightly bigger house in a street with less rap music. Or maybe they have a newer car and it has leather seats. That’s trivial in comparison to the difference our ancestors had to live with.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Actually, you’re on the money here…
  seems we have a new interpretation of the Easter Island Story.
  https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/13/story-easter-island-totally-wrong-needs-rewritten-scientist-says-7833129/
  They were a highly cooperative society (based on one bitty bit of evidence… all using toki from same basalt quarry)
  
  But then some nasty colonisers sailed over the horizon…. and it was downhill all the way…
  
  but, no wait…
  The Easter Islanders are still there, … whew!
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:58am
- VicParking
  
  Now shit hunter Ugg just goes to one end of the road to pick up his UN food parcels and to the other end of the road to collect his AK47, wifes following behind in burka’s.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:04am
  - kowtow
    
    And then migrates to Sweden , Germany or Britain where they create Ugg ghettoes and the rulers of the descendants of Ogg tell the other Oggians that they must adapt to the ways of the Uggians and “celebrate” while the Uggians go on to turn Oggville into Shitsville , all the while paid for by the Oggians.
    
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    August 14, 2018 11:42am
- Woz
  
  Ah, the good old myth of the noble savage! Started by Rousseau (who never went anywhere near a savage, noble or otherwise) and maintained by Marx-infused academics to the present day.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:40am
brett68

Spending 100k on a crown limousine was never going to be a good look for Simon Bridges, does he not realize the media is working against him?

Was there no other options?
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August 14, 2018 8:15am
- cmm
  
  Helicopter? Armoured personnel carrier?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:17am
  - hullkiwi
    
    He’s probably not on speaking terms with Mr Logistics.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:23am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Last time Labour had a leadership election Little, Jones and some other lemon spent an interminable amount of time touring the country at our expense “campaigning”. How much did that cost?
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:24am
  - oldgolfer
    
    I think Ron has the chopper.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:25am
  - brett68
    
    I don’t really care, it’s trivial in the over all scheme of things, but he has to realize the media is working for the government.
    
    Radio NZ and TVNZ I understand they’ve always being Labour fan bois, but media works? why the constant hostility towards National?
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:34am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      he has to realize the media is working for the government.
      
      I’m sure he does. What is he supposed to do about it?
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:19am
      - brett68
        
        Not give them ammunition to shoot him with or have thought through possible scenarios that could be spun against him and develop counters.
        
        Standing there looking like a clown isn’t one of them.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:53am
    - Piniwi
      
      Simple brett68 follow the money. As a private operator struggling to remain solvent the Govt money is essential to their survival. Their puff pieces now seem to be outsourced to Spinoff making it look more like a losers club.
      
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      August 14, 2018 2:47pm
- marcw
  
  RonAir?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:26am
- Happychappy
  
  Wait on Judith would not have done that, for fucks sake you being one of his worst critics, how is he going to let peoplè find out what he wants.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:38am
- flipper
  
  Spending, so called, on Crown limousine is bullshit.
  1. The cars are taxpayer owned.
  they are allocated to certain folks for government (Parliamentary) business purposes.
  3. The drivers are Government employees.
  2. The “spending’ is nothing more than the re-allocation of standing state costs.
  
  Talk of all else is desperate BS and should cease forthwith.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:40am
  - brett68
    
    So why the media hatchet job?
    
    If that’s the way it is, maybe Simon should point that out instead of trying to justify the “cost”
    
    If he came straight out he stated what you just wrote, that would be the end of the story.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:45am
    - lifesgood
      
      Just give us the costs of Jacinda’s multiple kindy visits and flying soy boy and an army of nannies and her parents around the country to help this poor working mother look after her unfortunate child.
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:03am
    - KevOB
      
      Jacind’a PR team are always on the brew. Something needs to be hidden or is about to be dropped on us.
      
      Get behind our chosen National Leader: build bridges to a better future without socialist controls.
      ☑️ ☑️
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:46am
oldpark

Noticed the hate speech gang or far left lunatics from TV3 put the boot into Simon Bridges last night. His so called “crime ” doing his job meeting NZs . The sickos were trying to denigrate the Leader of National Party and accusing him of overspending.
They conveniently and deliberately hid
the fact the the Peters installed Coalition of Corruption and Chaos are spending multi multi millions on at least the last count was 125 inquiries with so called consultants getting $5000 Dollars weekly,on every thing from hurty feelings for Peters on Waka jumping, and massive NZs taxpayers handouts to the Pacific Islands. Etc!Etc!Etc.
The other anti Simon Bridges and National Party sickos TVNZ must have given their 263 fake news employees the night off,allowing the far left Lunatics on TV3 to emulate the almost nightly attack on the National Party and their MPs.
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August 14, 2018 8:19am
- waikatogirl
  
  What is the cost of the Minister for the Regions spending on all that travelling nationwide visiting said regions spreading his largess with our money? How’s the travelling roadshow Shane?
  How is Shane getting about to visit all our regions, helicopter perhaps? ?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:38am
  - wiseowl
    
    Cycle lanes .
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:54am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Big arse Shane on a bicycle! ? ? ?
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:13am
flipper

The Terrible, Evil Doctor Trump, and Mr Donald J T.
And something
Even worse

It is obvious that Newt Gingrich does not swallow the “progressive” (You know, the sort that now operates in NZ under the banner of the Peters- Mummy Ardern Regime, and sadly some other NZ places) claims that The Donald is a Racist, a War monger, Evil, and Traitor. In fact, the TDS sufferers like the MSM, academics and council-level politicians, were so bad that they demanded he be impeached – even before he had been sworn into office as 45.

It seems to me that this mob has been brought up on Mad Comics. They are behaving like those characters. But some TDS sufferers are now more ridiculous than the comic characters they resemble. That these views should be spouted by otherwise sensible New Zealanders is indicative of the waste in taxpayer subsidised education spending. Well ……. Of course, because they all live in a (similar) bubble(s) they are susceptible to the political equivalent of ”Cruise Disease” (also known as Child Care disease) – the uncurable (but preventable) gastro-enteritis bug that has been so named because its favourite haunt seems to be cruise liners. But few , if any, will bother to read or promote more balanced and knowledgeable views available.
So ……

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/11/newt-gingrich-trump-republican-party-is-arising-out-political-revolution.html

And now a second “So” — who or what is the “even worse” ???
Not a difficult question to answer.
The decision by the bunch of arseholes posing as our Government to “award” five medals each year to the cardigan brigade… and to equate such “service” with VC Willy Apiata is hardly believable.
But the nothing this bunch of unconscionable arseholes would stoop to a new nadir. And remember that Peters and his Minnie of Defence, Mark, have signed off on this.
Any nation where the media is not dominated by milksop children they would have emasculated both Peters and Mark and told the silly little nettle eater to take her suckling and piss of back to Auckland. = permanently
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August 14, 2018 8:20am
Poppa

I wonder how much lower the dollar can go?

It seems that the perfect storm is brewing now
Dollar tanking
House prices coming off
Confidence tanking
New car sales down
Now we will see official inflation rising, even though my own research at the supermarket suggests it has already started
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August 14, 2018 8:21am
- waikatogirl
  
  According to Cindy, that is only your perception Poppa. Nothing to see here, move on… ?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:45am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Always a winter bump in food prices (vegetables). But suspect you are right. 10% drop in NZD since election has to show up in the 60Billion a year (20% of GDP) in goods and services we import.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:51am
- VicParking
  
  Don’t forget no plastic bags to pick up my dog shit.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:06am
  - Nermal
    
    Dog shit is biodegradable, just sprinkle it with glitter and call it a Labour Policy
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:26pm
sooty

Did anyone happen to take a screen shot of stephies wish to put a plastic bagover my head and asphyxiate my self. If you did can you please forward it to David Farrar. Thanks.
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August 14, 2018 8:22am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m sorry I didn’t screenshoot it.
  But his deleted comment was
  comment 2279017 on KB.
  
  I see he has now denied that he has (at least) twice written on this blog telling someone to put a plastic bag over their head, tighten it around the ends and inhale deeply.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/08/general_debate_11_august_2018.html#comment-2280066
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:42am
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, yes that was me but I take it you don’t mind if KB posters tell me to jump off a tower or become a suicide bomber?
    
    Yes?
    
    Or a C…?
    
    etc, etc , etc
    
    Yes?
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:44am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I do not approve of any form of abuse, stephieboy.
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:53am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW. your hitherto silence might suggest something else?
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:12am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I think after 5 years or so on this blog, with 10,000+posts.. it should be clear that I do not indulge in personal abuse.
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:41am
      - sooty
        
        Stephie. I REPORTED YOU. on saturday 11 for your post wanting me to put a plastic bag on my head and take a couple of big breaths.
        This was in response to my comment that Jacinda should be called the “BAG LADY”.
        Some of the other posters also did so in support. Your comment was taken down and disappeared into the ether. DPF could not find it when I emailed on monday asking for you to be sin binned.
        You are an arsehole and the reason you get so much crap is because you deserve it and rightly so.
        I can only hope that this is bought to DPF”s attention and he decides to investigate and take it further.
        
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        August 14, 2018 11:18am
    - Harkman
      
      Oops that thumbs ups was me, sorry. Fat fingers, won’t happen again.
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:29am
    - calendar girl
      
      SB, you are back to stalking Maggy W. again. What other KB posters might suggest to you has nothing to do with Maggy, and is not her responsibility. Please leave the woman alone, and take responsibility for your own comments.
      
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      August 14, 2018 4:47pm
- waikatogirl
  
  We’ll all vouch for you sooty.
  I reported sb for that comment, something I try to avoid doing as I believe in free speech. He went far too far for the 2nd time in a week with the same suggestion for you to asphyxiate yourself.
  Shame on him.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:16am
secondcumming

On the way into the office this morning I stopped off at the local Asian-owned bakery to get something for morning tea.

They had a sign in the window: ‘ALL CAKES 50 CENTS’

I went in, pointed to the cabinet and said “Can I have of piece of that cake please?”

As the cheeky little fucker handed me the bag he said “That’s 90 cents please sir”

“It says in the window all cakes 50 cents” I replied!?

He said “I know, but that is Madeira cake”
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August 14, 2018 8:23am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  ??
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:40am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    OOh – the penny has dropped – “my dearer cake”. 😆
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:10pm
Paulus

Why do I feel that corks will be popping on the 9th Floor Propaganda Bureau this morning in that they set up a new young very inexperienced TV3 bimbo to scream out that Simon is doing his job properly as Leader of the Opposition.
I though at first that it was Paddy Gower in drag until I was perturbed that she might wet herself with the joy of believing that she had been the “lucky one” to get an early release of Simon’s not excessive travel costs for a 12,500 km business trip.
He was doing his job. Surely you would have realised that you had been set up and as a graduate from Massey University Communications degree you would not have known different.
Sit down quietly and watch the performance and reflect on the performance.
A learning curve perhaps.
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August 14, 2018 8:28am
holysheet

Two crows are flying along when suddenly a RAF Typhoon jet screams past them. One crow says ” Blimey, that was moving” The other crow says “You’d fly that fast if you had two arseholes and both of them were on fire.”
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August 14, 2018 8:29am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  the CoL has more than two arseholes that are on fire so why aren’t they doing better?
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:23am
Paulus

Why do I feel that corks will be popping on the 9th Floor Propaganda Bureau this morning in that they set up a new young very inexperienced TV3 bimbo to scream out that Simon is doing his job.
I though at first that it was Paddy Gower in drag until I was perturbed that she might wet herself with the joy of believing that she had been the “lucky one” to get an early release of Simon’s not excessive travel costs for a 12,500 km business trip.
He was doing his job. Surely you would have realised that you had been set up and as a graduate from Massey University Communications degree you would not have known different.
Sit down quietly and watch the performance and reflect on the performance.
A learning curve perhaps.
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August 14, 2018 8:29am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Tova O’Brien is “new” and “very inexperienced?” She’s been a political reporter for something like ten years.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:37am
  - Paulus
    
    Well why has she not learned anything – anyone can do time and still be as ignorant as at the beginning.
    Be a Teacher and find out how all are equal over all the years going to work.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:12am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Bullshit. O’Brien was never trained as a journalist. She’s a shadow flitting across a windscreen.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:21am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Dumb as a walrus.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:26pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
      She must be cut to the quick to learn that such an esteemed media professional as yourself has such a low opinion of her.
      
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      August 14, 2018 12:42pm
      - Monique Watson
        
        As long as she masturbates over me and my editing prowess, I’m happy.
        
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        August 14, 2018 2:07pm
- Lance
  
  Who watches TV3?
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:38am
Catons

Simon is cleverly not rising to the bait on this one. He has ruled out anyone in his caucus so that should dampen any mischief making. The Labour Party is quite capable of this dirty trick. They are vile.
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August 14, 2018 8:37am
- lifesgood
  
  I agree, Catons. if Simon dares to make any criticism of the toothy wonder just imagine the vitriol spewing from the MSM. I know people are saying he is weak. He is not. He is playing the sensible card and allowing them to sink deeper and deeper into the mire by themselves. They then can’t accuse him of “dirty politics”.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:59pm
MCos

I thought Simon Bridges answer was pretty limp when asked about abolishing the Maori seats.
Rather than giving a direct yes he kicked the can down the road with some excuse about disruptive protests.
Having said that it’s a lose/lose for National. Philosophically they may be opposed to the Maori seats, but if the become government and legislate their demise their will be turmoil. On the other hand if they come out in favour of their retention because Maori need them they’ll lose votes.
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August 14, 2018 8:41am
- Maxx
  
  Agree. And if he wants to get his numbers up he needs to take decisive stands on issues that may be polarising.
  If you think the seats should say, say it. And back it up with your thoughts. And if you think they should go, say it, and back it up with your thoughts.
  But take a fucking stand on something and be passionate about it!
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:31am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  There is already turmoil whenever someone, in any context, suggests Maori should have no more legal rights and entitlements than anyone else. We have to stand up and insist that race based laws and policies are abolished, accept there will be a violent reaction, and be willing to deal with it. I doubt Bridges has the spine to do that though.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:31am
- KevOB
  
  Simon was wise: disruptive protests are quite likely. Maori are flailing about at present. I sense jockeying for power. Nga Puhi is almost medieval with barons seeking control of the spoils. Their power play is directed at the other tribes too-how dare Ngai Tahu get more than them?
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:02am
artemisia

Question. Will NZFirst support the proposed employment changes? Hard to see their voter base getting behind compulsory union membership by stealth. I’d expect a membership backlash.

If NZFirst do support the changes it must be in the coalition agreement. More likely they will get some changes that slightly water it all down and proclaim victory.
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August 14, 2018 8:42am
- kevn
  
  @art… NZF probably hasn’t got any voter base/members still in the work force.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:50am
wiseowl

I don’t normally watch TV3 but as it was raining I flicked on and saw Don Brash.
Very interesting that he backed Kerry McDonalds assessment of the last Labour and National governments.
Quite extraordinary .2/10 for Labour and 0/ 10 for National.
Back to Fox.
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August 14, 2018 8:43am
- MCos
  
  ‘I don’t normally watch . . . . . . . ‘
  
  How many hundreds of times have I seen someone write this as if the assembled multitude will question their intelligence, or something
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:35am
- KevOB
  
  Don Brash has integrity–needed in all politicians. He has competence and well reasoned opinions which he puts clearly.
  All of which is missing in the COL.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:25pm
EAD_TWO

I haven’t got time to comment on this today but will leave you with the poignant Video – “a tribute to the Sky King who died over the weekend after crashing a plane in Washington State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w49tGTw3USA

The comments are very moving – here is an example:

When you realise that everything you were brought up to believe was upright and honourable is now disincentivised, and that everything you thought was corrupt and depraved is now encouraged and lauded. When you realise that you’re living in Sodom and Gomorrah. When you realise that your elected leaders are actively working against you and your interests. When your society is constantly denigrating and belittling you, and you walk around feeling like you’re infected with leprosy. Meanwhile all of the state’s attention and sympathy is instead directed to some opportunist from Niger or Cameroon, who is now your noisy neighbour, strutting around the neighbourhood as if he owns the planet. Excuse the vulgarity, but what the fuck do you expect? Thanks for the content and salute from Montréal, Québec.
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August 14, 2018 8:49am
- EAD_TWO
  
  You can’t take a race of builders, explorers, conquerors, warriors and philosophers, give them shitty modern day jobs like “call center assistant” or “toll booth operator” and expect them not to go crazy once in a while. We need something to live for again. RIP Sky King.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:24am
- MCos
  
  ‘I haven’t got time to comment on this today’
  
  Good
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:27am
Catons

0/10 for the Key English Government!!! The person who gave that is mad. Key and English got us through the gfc with VERY little disruption to vital services and entitlements. I wish they had cut benefits like the Bolger Government did. Plenty of Governments made savage cuts to spending.
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August 14, 2018 8:55am
Biscuit

Anyone see that earnest woman from NZEI on the News last night?

It’s important, apparently, that her union members get more money because it’s important that all New Zealand kids get an opportunity for a decent education.

Even, Miss. the ones who your union members failed and who were doing so well under the caring Charter Schools that your tame lackey Hipkins is hellbent on closing?
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August 14, 2018 8:56am
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: Crashing investor mortgages ominous for house prices – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/crashing-investor-mortgages-ominous-house-prices/

By Leith van Onselen

With the recent release of the ABS’ lending finance data for June, it’s an opportune time to once again chart how capital city house prices are tracking against both investor and total housing finance.

As readers no doubt already know, housing finance has historically been strongly correlated with values, therefore it remains one of the best predictors of price growth.

The below charts plot both CoreLogic’s monthly dwelling values index against the value of investor and total finance, as measured by the ABS. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Pavletich comment on thread …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/08/crashing-investor-mortgages-ominous-house-prices/#comment-3165136

When speculators (mis – named ‘investors’) don’t see easy housing inflation ahead, they exit the market.

The only question is … when will the trickle turn in to a flood … on both sides of the Tasman ?

The large speculator segment of the market is particularly fragile. They frighten easy..

Fear is a far more powerful motivator than greed.
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August 14, 2018 9:09am
Harkman

So that Mike Williams is a real piece of work. On Red Radio yesterday all he could see was coalition successes. When asked about the business confidence surveys, he tried to fob them off as junk. Then he claimed that those taking part in the surveys were hypocrites because he looked at the car import numbers and businesses are upgrading their fleets, proof in his mind that the economy is strong. Really? No, Williams is a liar, vehicle imports are up only 0.9% ytd given the population is growing at 1.5% some 0.6% are on struggle street. Remember when the economy was growing 3.2% and Labour (Robo etc) were “but the population is growing 1.7%” which is still a solid real person GDP. But this isn’t the first time Williams has spouted utter bullshit and gotten away with it, years back on Radiolive he claimed that we brought in free primary education in 1878 and suddenly our standard of living was 2nd in the world, but in the 1869-1872 period NZ may have had the actual highest nominal gdp. So Williams was completely false.
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August 14, 2018 9:15am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Williams told us that the headlines where about the supermarket guy with downs could not access his Kiwsaver account as so all was well with the world as this was all that the msm could come up with.
  
  And he is right.
  
  The msm choose to and are not going to write anything about anything that National has proposed, suggested or achieved (unless it is Bridges’ travel expenses) and there is nothing they dare report from the CoL as everything they are touching is turning to the proverbial poo.
  
  There is plenty to report, the msm choose not to so to run interference and protect the princess which is why the dead donkey story is in the ‘news’!
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:39am
- Lance
  
  That would be Mike (Neutron Bomb) Williams?
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:49am
  - Harkman
    
    Lance, I was going to refer to him as a character from Austin Powers 2 but I showed restraint. ?
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:23am
  - lifesgood
    
    The very same man who went to Australia trying to find dirt on John Key….and failed. Nasty, nasty man.
    
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    August 14, 2018 1:04pm
Manolo

A soap opera, a very vulgar one:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/omarosa-claims-she-heard-trump-n-word-tape-after-book-n899971

Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman said Sunday that she has personally heard a tape of President Donald Trump using the N-word during filming for NBC’s “The Apprentice,” a revelation she says “confirmed that he is truly a racist.”
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August 14, 2018 9:18am
- Harkman
  
  But in the book she says someone has the tape but she hadn’t heard it and that is where her inconsistencies stack up.
  
  Frank Luntz:
  “I’m in @Omarosa’s book on page 149. She claims to have heard from someone who heard from me that I heard Trump use the N-word.
  
  Not only is this flat-out false (I’ve never heard such a thing), but Omarosa didn’t even make an effort to call or email me to verify. Very shoddy work.”
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1027991410950135808
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:32am
  - chiz
    
    No. She is claiming that when the book was written she hadn’t personally heard the supposed tape, but that she heard the tape after it had been written and sent to the printers.
    
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    August 14, 2018 11:51am
- G152
  
  And for some reason she is unable to produce that tape.
  And her book is coming out how convenient
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:37am
- tas
  
  Methinks Omarosa is telling tall tales to get publicity and the ensuing money.
  
  Of course, it tells you something about Trump’s judgement that he ever hired her.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:40am
  - Harkman
    
    Check out what she said after being fired, the ‘oh I wasn’t fired, I was moving on to new projects’ line. I think General Kelly was caught on tape giving the nicest dismissal in history.
    
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    August 14, 2018 1:34pm
- Nermal
  
  A great example of “Never stick it in crazy”
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:32pm
Don the Kiwi

Stephieboy has found a way to expand his musical talent by using his chicken – far preferable to strangling it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khOfSVULtsU
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August 14, 2018 9:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Some people really do have too much time on their hands!
  
  Me included this week!
  
  Very funny
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:43am
Manolo

Do as I say…
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/08/12/abuse-allegation-made-against-keith-ellison-denies-attorney-general-election

Keith Ellison, one of the leading candidates to be Minnesota’s next attorney general, confronted allegations Sunday of domestic abuse of a former girlfriend that surfaced days before the election that will decide the party’s nominee.
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August 14, 2018 9:22am
MCos

In February 2017 President Trump met various leaders from Harley-Davidson at the White House and said how marvellous the company was for retaining manufacturing in the US.
In June 2018 Harley-Davidson announced it would shift more of it’s production overseas in response to increased costs due to tariffs imposed on EU steel & aluminium.
Just the other day Bikers for Trump said they will be boycotting Harley-Davidson; a move backed up by President Trump.
Bikers for Trump tee shirts are sourced from Haiti because American manufactured ones are too expensive.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bikers-for-trump-make-pro-trump-shirts-in-haiti-as-its-cheaper-than-us-2018-8/?r=US&IR=T
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August 14, 2018 9:23am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  That’s the conundrum of international trade. The consumers want cheaper goods, but what about the loss of jobs for their nation’s workers?
  
  How to achieve a balance?
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:36am
  - MCos
    
    I worked for an Australian company in Bangkok that produced drawing for American steel fabricators. Those guys seemed to have no compunction about hiring and firing people at the drop of a hat depending on the availability of work.
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:23am
  - Nermal
    
    From what I’ve heard the latest HD’s are non-throbbing pieces of crap that sound like Japanese bikes
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:36pm
Fletch

Come the 16th of this month, over 128 newspapers will organize together to write anti-Trump editorials because, according to them, he is not allowed to criticize the press?

https://www.thewrap.com/newspapers-denounce-trump-dirty-war-against-free-press-with-op-eds/
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August 14, 2018 9:25am
- Inandout
  
  The collusion between Comey and Mueller is now being publicised, and this Steve Hilton clip is pretty convincing. Snopes of course doesn’t agree, but I understand Steve does thorough fact checking.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aac4YWybcX4
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:58am
- graham
  
  Ha, they want to “educate readers to realize that an attack on the First Amendment is unacceptable.”
  
  All the comments are basically, WTF? As one comment puts it:
  
  The ‘…sacred principles enshrined in the Constitution.” specifically prevent Congress from passing any law to limit journalistic expression. There is no Constitutional amendment being proffered to change that.
  
  The Constitution doesn’t limit the President… or anyone else… from criticizing the press all day long regardless of how the press feels about those criticisms. That’s another sacred principle in my opinion.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:00am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Of course an orchestrated media attack on Trump will not prove his point or play into his hands. Not at all.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:49am
Manolo

The new sultan moans and whinges:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/turkeys-erdogan-claims-trump-sanctions-are-a-stab-in-the-back.html

Turkish President Recep Erdogan has again attacked the United States, alleging that the use of sanctions by Washington is a “stab in the back against Turkey.”

Addressing reporters in Ankara on Monday, the Turkish leader added in a translation provided by Reuters that “attacks on the economy are likely to continue for a while” but that Turkey would take steps to respond.
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August 14, 2018 9:28am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, a complex world that precludes your kind of black and white thinking.
  
  Even though a troubled relationship in recent times Israel depends on Turkish airspace for the military exercise of their warplanes.
  
  BTW I believe Turkey was the first Muslim nation to recognise Israel after its creation.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:50am
  - Manolo
    
    Did I mention Israel, dear stephieboy?
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:56am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, just remarking that the situation in the Middle East is complex and both the President and you need to to take cognisance of that fact.
      
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      August 14, 2018 10:14am
      - Manolo
        
        I wouldn’t have noticed it if you didn’t tell me. Thank you, mate. 😀
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:21am
    - calendar girl
      
      “…. you need to to take cognisance of that fact.”
      
      So who’s writing such elegant (and contrived) prose today under the ‘stephieboy’ moniker, stephie?
      
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      August 14, 2018 5:18pm
Poppa

I feel so reassured now

Cindy has said that house prices will not tank like Sydney & Melbourne. She knows this.

Phew thanks Cindy, you are a little gem
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August 14, 2018 9:29am
- Harkman
  
  The economy is cratering without any interest rate hikes, a US recession, a drought, a war etc just wait till one of them actually hits, then we’ll be completely screwed.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:36am
- Nermal
  
  And when the prices do fall, she’ll say it was to make them more affordable
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:38pm
dime

I see that sociopath peter strzok has finally been given the ass by the FBI.

The nutjob has set up a gofundme page to cover legal costs and lost income lmao

Knowing fucked in the head lefties, he will no doubt raise plenty. Lefties don’t do charity but they do give to their fellow tribesman in these situations
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August 14, 2018 9:35am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  How much do you think Little, Curran, Martin, Mallard, Adhern, Jones, Jones again because he really is a knob, etc etc etc raise if they tried a similar ruse?
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:47am
- 4077th
  
  I watched his grilling at a congressional hearing. It was a farce with him constantly claiming he was unable to comment on matters that are still under investigation. Didn’t stop him commenting during the initial investigations! The senator from Georgia definitely had Strzok’s number and was very good at putting it to him. The chairman, was determined to get answers but was constantly interrupted and shouted down by the Democrat members. On display was the out and out TDS and lack of respect for the process demonstrated by the Dam members. If you have a spare 10 hours 🙂 it’s here..
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3vPLYQQLw&t=11758s
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:05am
4077th

I posted a very personal story about my wife yesterday and made reference to a “Rickshaw” as her method of escape. That was wrong, my understanding was a rickshaw was a small uncovered canoe. A couple of you pointed that out. In particular Milky who suggested I was lying about my wife’s story. I don’t share my personal life lightly. I have no reason to lie for effect. For Mrs 4077th’s sake I would appreciate an apology please..
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August 14, 2018 9:48am
- starboard
  
  mm is just front bum 4077th. Most on here know that. Dont hold ya breath waiting for an apology from the front bum.
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:08am
  - 4077th
    
    Yes, am well aware of his musings and leanings. I have also defended him on a couple of occasions. He has a short memory. I’ll bee seeking an apology from him at every opportunity, perhaps until I am blue in the face but I am prepared to wait..
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:53pm
Hugh Pavletich

Don Brash rates John Key’s Government 0/10 | Newshub

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/08/don-brash-rates-john-key-s-government-0-10.html

Former National Party leader Dr Don Brash has given the previous National Government led by John Key a shocking 0/10 rating.

He told The AM Show on Tuesday the previous Government “failed most of the things they said they’d do”.

“When John Key became Prime Minister he said ‘we’ll catch Australia in 17 years by 2025’,” he said, adding that this never happened, and that the former Government failed on housing affordability and growth. View and read more via hyperlink above …

The demise of the former National – led government …
GONE GONE GOING section
Performance Urban Planning

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html

When will the Labour – led government start performing ? …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/General%20June.html
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August 14, 2018 9:48am
- 4077th
  
  Yes, because Don did such a good job in his term as leader..FFS. If Brash thinks he is relaunching his political career he is sorely mistaken. There are plenty inNational who are more capable than him.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:53am
  - Viking2
    
    Tell us Who!
    
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    August 14, 2018 5:45pm
- Manolo
  
  Key’s government was a squandered opportunity!
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    Manolo, squandered opportunity for what?
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:16am
  - backster
    
    When Key became Prime Minister the NZ stock exchange index was at least 1000 points behind the Australian Index as it had been for decades. By the time he left the NZ Index was 2000 points ahead. This after dealing with a Global Financial Crisis and the Earthquakes.
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:42am
- flipper
  
  Get Ye gone, dumbass wet pavlova …….
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:04am
- UpandComer
  
  Brash is wrong. A hypothetical Key-English government to 2025 would definitely have surpassed Australia economically and socially. A Brash-X government would not have. Because Brash couldn’t sustain a program politically. I like Brash, but 0/10 seems weird.
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:45am
  - 4077th
    
    Yes, way to garner support Don..insult your future colleagues (if that is what you are aiming at?).
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:55pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Yes, so why were Massey terrified of him? He’s clearly a lefty in disguise.
      
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      August 14, 2018 1:06pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Kerry McDonald details why he believes New Zealand must hold a Royal Commission into the policy failures of successive governments since the Millennium | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/95318/kerry-mcdonald-details-why-he-believes-new-zealand-must-hold-royal-commission-policy
        
        The time has come for a Royal Commission into the policy failures of successive governments since the Millennium.
        
        Political leaders have failed to deliver good policies or outcomes. Only a top-level independent inquiry can determine the causes and recommend solutions.
        
        When the economic engine of a democracy fails, social and environmental imperatives become unaffordable. But rather than fix the economy, politicians have obfuscated and spent more of the nation’s precious capital on political band aids – reinforcing the downward spiral.
        
        Some 50 or more important policies have failed, including:
        
        • World-lagging productivity growth; … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 14, 2018 4:36pm
Fletch

Ain’t multiculturalism grand? An average of 15 acid attacks a week in Britain.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/shocking-fifteen-acid-attacks-happen-13073723
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August 14, 2018 9:58am
- Inandout
  
  Another country to avoid. It is just not worth the risk.
  
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  August 14, 2018 1:15pm
- Nermal
  
  See. Gun control does work
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:40pm
DigNap15

OK, its time to learn some more Maori words.

The Maori word for Emotion is …
Oh no its not in my printed Maori dictionary.
Maybe I should buy another one, even though this one by Bruce Biggs gets lots of praise.
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August 14, 2018 10:00am
- 4077th
  
  Perhaps you need an official dictionary of New Speak from the ministry of truth..Headed by Claire Curran.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:08am
- Psycho Milt
  
  Emotion = kare
  
  Maybe you should just Google translations like everyone else, instead of constantly lamenting how crap your printed dictionary is?
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:44pm
  - Nermal
    
    But my Google translator says ‘kare’ means ‘protect’
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:43pm
The only red for me is that of Manchester United

A few years back my sharebroker suggested Sky tv shares. Even then I could tell that they had reached market saturation and were unlikely to increase subscribers. Since then Sky tv have stumbled and cease to be of any meaningful importance. It’s only the rugby and netball which keeps them afloat. Today’s announcement that Spark have won the rights to screen the English Premier League for the next three years is fantastic. And you won’t have to join Spark to join. Spark are also going to screen MUFCTV. Well done. Beats watching Newshubs hatchet job on National.
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August 14, 2018 10:23am
- Harkman
  
  They were trying to dump their share holdings on you.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:25am
rangitoto

Corbyn honouring Black September terrorists. What a nasty piece of work.
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August 14, 2018 10:44am
- Longknives
  
  What a nasty little Anti Semite he is!
  It astounds me that he gets as much support in the UK as he does…Or is the British Muslim Population that large now?
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:50am
  - 4077th
    
    Jews 300k Muslims 3M. Perfect reason to be Anti Semitic
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:55am
    - UpandComer
      
      There is no difference. How can anyone take the Jewish criticism of Jeremy Corbyn seriously? The Jewish community of Britain form the single most powerful advocacy bloc for increased muslim immigration into Britain which exists.
      
      They should love Jeremy Corbyn. He will open the borders to their fellow Judeo-Muslims, who they state relentlessly are exactly the same as the Jewish diaspora after the Holocaust. Anyone who suggests otherwise is racist. Britain has to tikkun the olam. But not Israel. Israel can have border sovereignty.
      
      Logically, I expect when Corbyn unfortunately wins the next election and Britain becomes a communist caliphate the community criticising him now will cheer in the streets.
      
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      August 14, 2018 11:35am
- Psycho Milt
  
  May honouring our Lizard People overlords. What a nasty piece of work.
  
  Or, in other words: link or it didn’t happen.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:46pm
  - realityczech
    
    The Jew – it hates you and regards you as having the soul of an animal. At best.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:48pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Meanwhile:
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12106854
    
    “If Turkish borrowers default on their debts, foreign banks – especially in Europe – would suffer big losses. Large Spanish banks are owed more than US$82 billion ($124.2b), while French banks have US$38b in loans outstanding, according to the Bank for International Settlements in Geneva.”
    
    Did these banks learn nothing from the Greek crisis?
    
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    August 14, 2018 5:26pm
backster

It was sad last night to hear Larry Williams, Bill Ralston and Josie Pagani all agree that National had become a Left of Centre Party…Sadly I have to agree.
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August 14, 2018 10:45am
- Gravelroad
  
  That is the real issue for me, Hackster.
  Not so much about who is the leader, is Bridges the best option, would someone else be better? Etc etc.
  It is that the National Party has lost its way and seems to be ambivalent about who and what it stands for. There seems to be little vitality about them – especially during question time in Parliament when they appear to be wooden with their delivery and reactions.
  National is so lucky that there are rank and file members and supporters out there waiting patiently for them to get their act together and still voicing that support when the polling people call.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:56am
  - Poppa
    
    I think the main problem with National at the moment is, we don’t know what they stand for.
    
    Ok, we are not in an election year, but it would be good to have a clear idea of what they stand for.
    
    I will be very surprised if Simon is still leader at election time, he is not the man. In order to win in 2020 they need to take a punt with a new leader. If it fails, fine, because they are likely to fail anyway with the media in Labour’s pocket
    
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    August 14, 2018 11:06am
- flipper
  
  Yes it is sad. But it is the reality of NZ 2018. Bridge is chasing the middle. Win the middle and win the game!
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:09am
wreck1080

The huge fine handed out to monsanto is odd.

At face value the decision makes sense, weedkiller is a poison so surely it must cause cancer, it makes logical sense.

However, there is no statistical link between glyphosate use and cancer. ie, so cancer rates are similar between gyphosate users and those not exposed.
eg,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253709/

There was even evidence to show some people exposed to glyphosate have a reduced risk of lung cancer.

It is a bit like saying you believe sand causes skin cancer because you go to the beach quite often and you developed cancer.

If there are new studies that show some link then ban it. eg, for asbestos the evidence is clear. Not so with glyphosate.
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August 14, 2018 10:55am
- rangitoto
  
  Yep. It will be appealed and rightly overturned.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:59am
- 4077th
  
  Another example of the wonky, commy judiciary in the US wagging their finger at “big corrupt corporates”. Monsanto have very deep pockets and will re-litigate this until everyone has forgotten or the dude with cancer finally dies. Is nothing more than a dog and pony show for the Judiciary.
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:01am
  - marcw
    
    Yep, the only winners are the lawyers (again), and the costs will be borne by us as the price of RoundUp increases.
    
    As wonky as the finding against Johnson & Johnson for “causing” ovarian cancer – with talcum powder.
    
    Obviously civilian court hearings, as findings such as these would fail in a police prosecution.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:34pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes these claims are ridiculous
      One guy gets cancer and one baby dies from Talcum powder – what?
      There is no alternative to roundup.
      I use it in my garden ,and will still do so, but only once every few months.
      The claim will be reduced a lot by the appeal.
      No one person is worth 400 million!
      
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      August 14, 2018 1:28pm
Woz

I’ve been hearing/reading rumours that Toothy has been known to go a bit mental in cabinet/caucus meetings, indicating someone who isn’t coping very well with the stress. Nothing concrete though – does anybody care to comment on the veracity of these rumours?
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August 14, 2018 11:06am
- Poppa
  
  I have heard that but have no evidence either
  
  Perhaps Mike Bush could clear that up
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:08am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Mike says you are not allowed to talk about somebody who might be doing/saying something somewhere.
    
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    August 14, 2018 11:15am
- Longknives
  
  I have a friend who works in her ‘sphere’.
  He confirms that the big toothy grins and pleasant demeanor are purely orchestrated for the cameras..
  I won’t repeat what he and his colleagues call her- other than ‘She treats us as less than shit on her shoe’..
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:20am
  - Woz
    
    That has always been my impression of the big toothy grins. They’ve always looked like the smile on the face of the… lunatic? Therefore I wasn’t surprised to hear that she might be a scone doer away from the cameras.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:11pm
  - KevOB
    
    I read arrogance in Jacinda’s body language. Her way or else.
    
    This is the worst of the COL they believe they have superior knowledge and the might to enforce it.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:29pm
    - starboard
      
      “Moment please, I shall consult the crumbly bits in the bottom of the deep fryer which give bedder, more transparent and informadive answers than the teapot.
      
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      August 14, 2018 12:58pm
  - gorse
    
    Watch her during question time, under pressure she is surley, and has an awful scowl. A window into the real woman, awful.
    
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    August 14, 2018 5:37pm
  - RF
    
    Smiling knife….
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Jeremy Corbyn’s problems are not going away.
Looks like they’ve just bigger…

Jeremy Corbyn ‘wreath laying’ attacked by Israeli PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45170622
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August 14, 2018 11:24am
- Psycho Milt
  
  If the lying, murderous, corrupt weasel Netanyahu doesn’t like him, he must have some good points.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:49pm
UpandComer

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-jews-and-nazis/

Ron Unz, Harvard graduate, theoretical physicist, successful entrepreneur, former publisher at the American Conservative, contrarian, jewish.

Yihtzak Shamir, Prime Minister of Israel from 1983-84, and 1986-1992.

Genuine terrorist in the classic sense. Gunned down and blew up civilians, children, and military personnel, British, and his own people, in the 1940’s.

Avid writer of letters to Hitler and Mussolini.

He professed sincere appreciation for national socialist political philosophy, repudiating ‘decadent democracy’.

He sought an alliance between a future national socialist Israel and the ‘Pact of Steel’ Entente of Germany, Italy, and Japan – per the New York Times before it was CEO’d by Mark Thompson, Jimmy Savile’s boss and admirer at the BBC.

I didn’t know 150,000 Jewish soldiers served as front-line combat soldiers and senior officers for the Nazis.

I also didn’t know that Israel now DNA tests all citizens. Marriage is banned between Jews and non Jews, on a much stricter model then the 1935 Nazi Nuremberg laws.

What was one of the line items of anti-semitism from the IHRA? 15 years imprisonment? To compare Israel to Nazi Germany.

Wait. Yihtzak Shamir not only was akin to a Nazi. He was a Nazi. He was literally an Adolf Hitler devotee. And he was Prime Minister of Israel for 7 years.

Can someone inform me. Is it worst for Jeremy Corbyn to lay a wreath for the Black September terrorists. Or Israel to appoint as it’s Prime Minister a Nazi for 7 years? Then to say that anyone who states an empirical fact is an ‘anti-semite’ who should be imprisoned?

England has such a bright future.
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August 14, 2018 11:25am
- Jack5
  
  Corbyn’s a dog, and it was justice that the Israelis tracked down and assassinated those mongrels who murdered athletes at the Munich Olympic Games.
  
  Your accusation that the Prime Minister of Israel was a Nazi is ridiculous neo-Nazi bullshit.
  
  And no, I’m not Jewish, but, Upandcomer, you and 卐EADolf and ❗Kearealityczech❗, are obsessed and deluded when it comes to Jews. You’re not some sort of jokesters trying to test the tolerance of DPF, our host, who is part-Jewish, are you?
  
  Corbyn paying homage to the Munich murderers? What a fucking idiot.
  
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  August 14, 2018 11:42am
  - UpandComer
    
    Don’t mistake me. I don’t support Corbyn. Corbyn is a communist dhimmi who will destroy England. I don’t support islamic terrorists. The Black September terrorists don’t deserve wreaths. They deserve nothing.
    
    And I’m not obsessed. I don’t accost people anymore with this material. I just get sick of obvious anomalies and inconsistencies and hypocrisies.
    
    I find inconsistency troubling.
    
    How is it a factually incorrect statement.
    
    What more does a man have to do be a Nazi?
    
    He professed absolute adherence to national-socialist political – economy and philosophy. He repudiated democracy.
    
    He wrote fervently of his admiration for Adolf Hitler and Mussolini, ‘to Adolf Hitler and Mussolini’. I think he was serious, no? He requested an alliance with the Axis. During the war. When the Nazis were a force.
    
    Tell me. What does he have to do? This is good to know, because if Shamir wasn’t a Nazi, absolutely no one on earth today is.
    
    I find it nauseating when people who support Israel ever accuse other governments or entities of racism.
    
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    August 14, 2018 11:56am
    - Jack5
      
      I find it nauseating when people repeat outrageous lies such as ” 150,000 Jewish soldiers served as front-line combat soldiers and senior officers for the Nazis”.
      
      The Nazis lost. Hitler’s long dead (and, incidentally. DNA tests on Hitler’s relatives suggest he was part-Jewish and even part-African). FFS move on, UpandComer.
      
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      August 14, 2018 12:07pm
      - UpandComer
        
        No, don’t accuse me of outrageous lies.
        
        That is an empirically grounded number, which Unz cites from a scholar called Bryan Rigg in a book that Unz says has received “glowing jacket-blurbs from numerous academic experts” called “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers’.
        
        If you think it’s wrong – write your own book and establish your own narrative. Undertake years of analysis of Soviet and German records to catalogue, individually, the heredity and service record of soldiers as Rigg did.
        
        Vastly more intelligent, learned, motivated and formidable individuals then you or I haven’t contended with his scholarship in earnest. And his scholarship is the kind most subject to that sort of contention.
        
        Don’t call me an outrageous liar. I am not an outrageous liar. Everything I said was the truth. I am invested in truth, not the preferred narrative of any particular individual or group.
        
        And it does matter. The narratives established by the official version of the second world war justify policies that effect everyone.
        
        That IHRA policy is taken very seriously. And it clearly has zero legitimacy.
        
        I won’t and don’t accost people with this material. But I tire of the overblown ridiculous criticism of Corbyn which doesn’t focus on his insane economic platform, only on his open as opposed to covert ‘fraternisation’ with islam.
        
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        August 14, 2018 12:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie why do you hate Hitler and the Germans so much? They did nothing that Israel is not doing today. So why the double standards?
        
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        August 14, 2018 12:45pm
      - Jack5
        
        You’re a clever parrot, ❗Kea❗ Divert, divert, divert …
        
        But, the Germans, who I admire rather than hate, suffered heavily under Hitler. Including ethnic Germans in Austria other central European countries, between 8.2 and 8.8 per cent of Germans died in World War.
        
        You can put that down to your Nazi chums.
        
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        August 14, 2018 2:20pm
    - realityczech
      
      “I find it nauseating when people who support Israel ever accuse other governments or entities of racism.”
      
      Supporters of Israel are human garbage and should be treated as such.
      
      Not because of them being Jews, but because of their actions.
      
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      August 14, 2018 12:25pm
      - UpandComer
        
        People who support Israel aren’t inherently human garbage.
        
        Israel has a right to exist, Israel has a right to pursue it’s sovereign self-interest.
        
        Other nations however, not merely states, but nations, have a right to exist alike. That right needs to be observed and it is not being observed.
        
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        August 14, 2018 3:50pm
  - realityczech
    
    Jacksie, are you suggesting our gracious host is a religious bigot and liar? Why do you lie about the Jews and spread anti Germanic war propaganda? Do you assume our host shares your hatred and bigotry?
    
    “he was part-Jewish and even part-African”
    
    Thanks for pointing out the myth Hitler was racist. Unlike Israel, the most intolerant racist developed countries in the world.
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:22pm
  - realityczech
    
    “Israelis tracked down and assassinated those mongrels who murdered athletes”
    
    Greater justice would be done if the Jews shooting unarmed kids in Palestine today were butchered.
    
    Better yet the whole stinking country should be leveled by an international coalition as an example to other nuclear armed rogue militirised states.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian
    
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    August 14, 2018 12:30pm
    - Jack5
      
      ???
      
      It’s okay, ❗Kearealityczech❗ for you to have these feelings about Israel, given your disclosure that you have (at least some) Middle Eastern roots.
      
      As for your mis-implication (12.22 post) that because Hitler had some Jewish roots, he can’t have been a racist, consider: just because your key pseudonym here has been “Kea,” that doesn’t mean you have feathers around your arse, or wings that you can flap.?
      
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      August 14, 2018 2:26pm
      - Jack5
        
        ❗Upandcomer❗ in his 11.25 and 12.21 posts distorts the numbers of Jews (if any) who served in the German Wehrmacht (Army) in World War 2.
        
        He does this by citing (and slightly exaggerating) estimates of the number of partly Jewish soldiers who early in the war were allowed to fight in the Wehrmacht, the German regular army. They were excluded from the thoroughly Nazi Waffen SS.
        
        For anyone who wants the details see the link below.
        
        The reason part-Jewish soldiers were allowed in the Germany Army early in the war seems to have been:
        
        The Nuremberg Race Laws classed persons with three Jewish grandparents as Jewish; those with two Jewish grandparents would be considered Jewish only if they practised the faith or had a Jewish spouse. This meant that many “Mischlinge” were considered Aryan because they had at least one German non-Jewish parent.
        
        Upandcomer thus assumes that all of the estimated 100,000 or so Germans with some Jewish genes who served in the military were Jews. On that basis Upandcomer would have to classify Hitler as a Jew. (And ❗Kea❗, as an Arab.)
        
        To put it into proportion, about half a million non-Germans (including 100,000 Ukrainians) served in the Waffen SS.
        
        https://www.quora.com/Were-there-really-100-000-Jews-in-the-Wehrmacht-in-WW2
        
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        August 14, 2018 2:55pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie I wish no harm on the Chews. What really pisses me off are hypocritical bigots that apply totally different standards of morality to the Chews.
        
        Even raping kids and killing kids fails to bring a single word of condemnation from you… when Chews do it. Same with illegal invasions, mass murder, rounding up minorities and putting them in concentration camps. All okay when Chews do it.
        
        All we are asking is for the Chews to be treated like everyone else in a climate of tolerance and peace. Something that gets you zionist nut jobs in a frenzy and starts you off crying NAZI ❗
        
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        August 14, 2018 5:22pm
      - Jack5
        
        “All we ask,” says the bigot ❗Kearealityczecfh❗ as he continues to vent his anti-Jewish prejudice.
        
        Who are the “we” on behalf of whom you speak, Parrot Man?
        
        Surely more than yourself, 卐 EADolf, and Upandcomer
        
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        August 14, 2018 5:33pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Is it worst for Jeremy Corbyn to lay a wreath for the Black September terrorists.
  
  Don’t indulge Netanyahu’s propaganda. He attended a ceremony for people killed by Mossad. The scam is that he laid a wreath for the victims of the bombing of PLO headquarters by Israel, and Netanyahu is conflating that with the Mossad victims’ ceremony.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:54pm
Jack5

? Oh dear, vaping can bugger your lungs, new study suggests.

Will that mean?

– Vaping questions on insurance forms.
– Tobacco companies tripling their PR’s for a new marketing battle.
– Studies warning of secondhand-smoker damage from vaping.
– Vaping shut out of public facilities.
– Years of boring ‘Yes vaping’s dangerous, No it’s not’ news releases.
– Vaping companies sponsoring sports as pressure goes on the media where they advertise.
– High duties on vaping gear and whatever it is that vapers smoke.
– Vapers growing their own whatever it is that they smoke.
– Finally, the new industry evaperating and companies focusing on marijuana.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/08/13/vaping-may-damage-immune-system-lead-lung-disease-study-suggests/
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August 14, 2018 11:32am
- Fletch
  
  From what I’ve reading, people who vape can suffer from “popcorn lung”.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:03pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Vapers, for the most part and definitely those on Lambton Quay, are arrogant tossers. No, I don’t want to walk through an appalling plume of 5-cent lollie smelling air from your lungs. Grow up.
  
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  August 14, 2018 10:25pm
Manolo

Well said, Mr Brash:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/don-brash-rates-john-keys-government-0-10/ar-BBLTcM8
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August 14, 2018 11:39am
- KevOB
  
  When the MSM use a headline like that you know they have misused a context, misheard, misunderstood, got it wrong, got it from some else or twitter.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:39pm
Shaun the Sheep

Huge talent playing Auckland Thursday.

James Morrison multi-instrumental Australian jazz musician:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnRrIh0V3NQ
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August 14, 2018 11:53am
waikatogirl

Simon has potential as leader but sadly I’m now thinking Simon’s current leadership is a repeat of Bill English as leader in 2002 before he was ready?

I agree National supporters need to get behind National and have a united front but are National flogging a struggling horse?
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August 14, 2018 12:27pm
- KevOB
  
  Question:
  Do you prefer the present PM continue in power or pass the reins over to National led by Simon Bridges?
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:42pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    If Simon could lead National to winning enough votes for National to gain power I’d support him all the way. Do you believe he can do that KevOB?
    
    As you may remember, I was one of those calling for Judith as leader. Unfortunately, a few months ago it wasn’t to be. I have watched and willed Simon to be successful but fear he is lacking in charisma to fight the COL and light the fire under voters.
    
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    August 14, 2018 1:21pm
    - KevOB
      
      Simon is the choice of caucus and I respect that. At Question Time he speaks like the former prosecutor under Judge Mallards eye. He was fiery in the opening of the Address in Reply debate. He showed his mettle then. My wife and I were impressed with his easy handling of questions from the floor in Christchurch. A promising choice for the future.
      
      If the media are going to continue to deny the Nats a platform we need to step up. Looking around for other leaders is not going to help. That will be reported. The good will not.
      
      We are dealing now with a skilled team of bullies and their well organised effective background mob.
      
      I am still hopeful for 2020 because I believe a severe economic storm is about to hit NZ and the COL will not be able to manage it. The women voters of NZ will quickly detect that and historically they reject governments which cannot manage.
      
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      August 14, 2018 4:29pm
      - stigie
        
        “At Question Time he speaks like the former prosecutor under Judge Mallards eye.”
        He is doing exactly the right thing by asking the right questions and quietly as he asks them. He is now forcing Ardern to come out loud in trying to get her point across.
        To me, this will get her more rattled as time passes with the right questions that he is asking.
        I think you doom and gloomers need to give him a fair go because there is no one else that could cut through all the Jacindamania crap !~
        
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        August 14, 2018 5:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Simon is the choice of caucus and I respect that”
        
        No one cares what you respect. He barely polls in double figures. Thinking like yours will see a second term of Labour, if it keeps up.
        
        To be clear, it does not matter what a handful of people think on the National fan blog. They won’t swing the election. We are already National voters.
        
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        August 14, 2018 5:28pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        I agree with everything you say KevOB and I hope Simon will be a successful leader. Just spitballing, and wish I had a crystal ball to see past the next election with a National win!!! I just hate this useless COL so my frustration is boiling over… Time will tell. ?
        
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        August 14, 2018 6:49pm
      - KevOB
        
        @stigie
        
        Yes. Jacinda attempts ignorance or scorn and Simon just relentlessly keeps cutting with his quiet forceful scalpel. The PM hates it.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:59pm
- realityczech
  
  Simon has to go. He got to his position by being a sleazy little shit and playing internal party politics and the old boy network. Those are not transferable skills to the electorate vote.
  
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  August 14, 2018 12:43pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I’m also unsure of whether Simon’s the man, but not because you say so.
    
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    August 14, 2018 3:59pm
    - realityczech
      
      Wow I’m gutted I don’t meet with the approval of pompous dickheads. Fuckwits like you – identifying as National voters – is why we have the current abomination in power.
      
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      August 14, 2018 5:30pm
      - stigie
        
        Are you sure you ain’t Redbaiter rc, you sound so much like him, but then again you don’t tell Nasska his pedigree so im confused..?
        
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        August 14, 2018 5:52pm
      - realityczech
        
        stigie, these arrogant entitled fan boys are Labours biggest [only] chance at 2 terms.
        
        Voters are not interested who is the “right sort” in the eyes of the rich and powerful. John Key managed to come across as humble and did a great job. It was an illusion but the voters loved him.
        
        Simon comes across as smug and smarmy. The general public don’t like him for it.
        
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        August 14, 2018 6:04pm
chiz

Jeremy Corbyn’s antisemitism crisis.
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August 14, 2018 12:52pm
- realityczech
  
  “antisemitism crisis.”
  
  I thought being antisemitic was a good thing? Folks on KB certainly think so given their comments about the Semitic Palestinians and Arabs.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:32pm
lifesgood

All those dissing Simon Bridges should take a look at his interview with Hayley Holt on TV 1 this morning. He came across really well, articulate, sensible and strong, making several good points. I have never seen Jacinda perform so assuredly in any interview.
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August 14, 2018 1:26pm
- DigNap15
  
  Any links?
  
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  August 14, 2018 1:30pm
- Inandout
  
  No disrespect to Simon, but a donkey could successfully interview Hayley Holt.
  
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  August 14, 2018 2:37pm
- MH
  
  I have criticized the man, but on Q & A he came across quite well also.
  
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  August 14, 2018 4:25pm
- KevOB
  
  Just give Simon more platform and see him go.
  Nat supporters are going to have to help.
  
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  August 14, 2018 4:30pm
- realityczech
  
  Sure he does okay. But the voters hate him. Fanboys like you will not swing the election. Get over yourself and accept it.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

What is going wrong with these women?
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/364058/elderly-couple-assaulted-in-their-home

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/106245085/second-arrest-over-kidnapping-of-87yearold-man-from-hastings
2 different assaults on our elderly folks —

and looks like Women in their 30s are their assailants.
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August 14, 2018 2:12pm
- Jack5
  
  Told you Maggy, get a German Shepherd, and get hubby into the rifle club.
  
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  August 14, 2018 3:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There will be no rifles in my house ever, Jack.
    The hubby hasn’t fired a rifle since school cadets PNBHS.
    We are not dog owners – never have been, and no intention to ever be a dog owner.
    
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    August 14, 2018 3:55pm
    - Jack5
      
      It will have to be karate lessons then.
      
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      August 14, 2018 5:34pm
    - realityczech
      
      ☭ “There will be no rifles in my house ever” ☭
      
      Freedom hating communist spotted. What other policies of Stalin and Mao do you adore?
      
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      August 14, 2018 5:50pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No rc
        My mummy killed herself with my brother’s 303.
        
        I seem to have had an aversion to keeping rifles in wardrobes ever since.
        
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        August 14, 2018 6:16pm
      - realityczech
        
        Sorry to hear that.
        
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        August 14, 2018 6:23pm
    - RF
      
      I have 9 firearms here safely locked away. Purely for sporting purposes.
      
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      August 14, 2018 7:51pm
- realityczech
  
  Vege head will be along in a minute to blame men for it.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    ‼️Sure she’s not going to blame the Chews, KRC?
    
    Vegan Chews?
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:25pm
    - realityczech
      
      Jacksie, The Chews are actually not guilty of that particular crime, but I can understand why you would think they are.
      
      You will probably get a stiffy reading about this given those you worship did it:
      
      Elderly Jerusalem woman brutalized by thugs who evidently thought she was a missionary
      
      A 70-year-old ultra-Orthodox woman found herself the target of a brutal religious hate crime on Monday night, when four thugs broke into her home and beat her up before leaving her handcuffed and bleeding.
      
      The thugs hit her repeatedly with a metal rod, breaking her right hand, crushing her left leg and injuring her face. They used their cell phones to document the attack, evidently to report back to those who sent them.
      
      Jerusalem police investigators confirmed that the attack was religiously-motivated.
      
      https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4196645,00.html
      
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      August 14, 2018 6:32pm
starboard

Feral specials.
They of no moral compass.
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August 14, 2018 2:59pm
Fletch

Lizzie Marvelly has a new book out soon, called ‘The F Word’, all about growing up feminist in ~~New Zealand~~ Aotearoa.

I know you’ll all want to reserve your copy 😆
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August 14, 2018 3:32pm
- graham
  
  I’d like to think that she has the right to free speech – although I have no doubt that Ms Marvelly would dearly love to deny that right to some people because, “I’m offended!” – and therefore good on her for writing the book.
  
  Just as I have the right to completely ignore the book. Which I shall.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:18pm
- waikatogirl
  
  And Marama Davidson will follow up with a book called ‘The C Word’. ?
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:56pm
- Longknives
  
  I’ll reserve my copy now- As toilet paper will soon be Venezueala prices in Jacinda’s Socialist Republic!
  
  To quote Blackadder-
  “Ah, yes, without question my favourite magazine; soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent”
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:58pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    George: “What could any soldier have against it?”
    Blackadder: “Apart from his bottom?
    
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    August 14, 2018 10:33pm
Manolo

Trudeau faces reality:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-backtracks-on-a-carbon-tax-1534110070

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government announced last month it will reduce a carbon tax on industry that is set to go into effect next year. The reason for the backtrack has to do with climate change, but not the kind associated with global warming.

Mr. Trudeau is reacting to shifting political winds stirred by Canada’s investment climate, which has turned stone cold. He faces an election in October 2019, and Liberals will have trouble winning unless investors warm to Canada as a destination for capital again. The question is whether the scaling back of the carbon tax is too little, too late.

Miss Arden, the accidental PM, should heed the advice.
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August 14, 2018 3:33pm
Fletch

Mike Hosking – banning plastic bags is just a PR stunt – https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106501&ref=NZH_fb
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August 14, 2018 3:34pm
- Nermal
  
  A Cunning Stunt
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:51pm
DigNap15

I see more of the media starting to question Jacinda on the COL’s economic performance. (or lack of)
And she answers back with 400 possible jobs for the unemployed and a ban on plastic bags next year!
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August 14, 2018 3:44pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The airhead is further out of her depth than a field mouse in a swimming pool.
  
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  August 14, 2018 4:02pm
  - Albert Thrasher
    
    *snorts* ….that comment was shallower than a saucer .
    
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    August 14, 2018 5:26pm
wreck1080

It has been a puzzling day.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=12106539

Toi Ohomai and Shore Trips and Tours get $180,000 in funding from Low Emission Vehicles Contestable Fund

Shore Trips and Tours managing director Ian Holroyd said he and his company had a desire to lead sustainability in the sector.

“This is a milestone moment for the industry and we take pride in leading the way for environmental sustainability in tour operations,” Holroyd said.

Obviously that desire is not so strong to just pay for it himself!!

I bet he’s happy, getting 180k from the government, for free!!!
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August 14, 2018 4:31pm
- DigNap15
  
  This is really going to boost the Bays jobs and productividy.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:00pm
- realityczech
  
  $180,000 for virtue signalling. That is well below the market rate for virtue signalling handouts. But I guess they have to start somewhere. They might get to suck billions out of workers pockets one day, like Elon Musk the corporate fraudster.
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:11pm
rangitoto

Stephieboy says this is the diversity we need:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6057119/Masked-attackers-set-cars-fire-hospital-car-park-rampage-Sweden.html
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August 14, 2018 5:30pm
- rangitoto
  
  ‘witnesses describing ‘dark-haired’ youngsters launching the attacks. ‘
  
  How wascist.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:43pm
- realityczech
  
  What happened to the times when they used to go about their business peacefully and make you great kebabs after a night on the piss?
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:07pm
  - Nermal
    
    That happens when their demographic is below 1% of the population
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:52pm
    - realityczech
      
      Yes and we don’t sell out our values. The very values they came here for.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:02pm
nasska

Although I fear that this will be another instance of all hui & no doey it may be a step in the right direction. Handing out subsidies for people to rent hovels is a poor substitute for home ownership.

….”Experts from across Aotearoa have joined forces to tackle barriers to financing Māori housing and boosting home ownership…….

……Building houses on Māori land was seen as part of the solution, but one of the biggest barriers was accessing finance, as the land was collectively owned”……

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106683
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August 14, 2018 5:35pm
- realityczech
  
  Surely there must be a way to give security to leaders. I am all for Maori doing more for themselves.
  
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  August 14, 2018 5:41pm
  - nasska
    
    Not wrong on that score RC. I’m one of the brigade who holds that home ownership builds self esteem & pride amongst all people.
    
    With a few exceptions renters have little ambition & no vision.
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:04pm
- Jack5
  
  Collective land ownership has been one of the biggest anchors holding back Maori economic growth.
  
  At least NZ has a cadastral system that allows movement in ownership of property.
  
  Because communal land is useless for security in borrowing, there were suggestions of movable housing be used on Maori land, with the building itself as collateral for the loan. This wouldn’t allow mortgages as large as individual titles do, but it would allow some loan money.
  
  In the case of the deal collapsing, the lender could take the house away and sell it.
  
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  August 14, 2018 6:34pm
  - realityczech
    
    The collectively owned land could be used as security if that was agreed by the collective. It would also motivate them all to help out if purchasers ran into financial problems.
    
    It could be done. Maybe a few laws need to be made to help it along.
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:52pm
    - fernglas
      
      Form a company with ownership of shares as per the ownership registry, let the company own the land and suddenly the land is amenable to being used as a security
      
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      August 14, 2018 6:58pm
      - nasska
        
        How would that work in the case of a mortgage foreclosure? Would the mortgagor have a hold on the tribes assets or just that parcel of land? If it came to an auction could non tribal bidders become the eventual owners?
        
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        August 14, 2018 7:05pm
      - KevOB
        
        A tribe cannot pass title to a company at the outset. The ranking elders collectively hold the realty as quasi trustees. Title comes through the oral history, geneaogies, which are recognised I believe in the Maori Land Court. This is a problem throughout Polynesia. Samoa has a special court for land and title issues where genealogies are recited by a class of chiefs to whom they are entrusted. Their recital elsewhere is illegal.
        
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        August 14, 2018 10:21pm
  - nasska
    
    There must be a way around it J5. We used to have a system administered by Maori Affairs where ownership of tribal land could qualify a borrower for a 2% loan. The Government provided the funds but only for new builds.
    
    From memory, for the term of the loan, the Dept took over the voting rights to a percentage of the borrower’s tribal land. It had a dual benefit of providing housing & Maori Affairs could sometimes obtain sufficient leverage to stop bickering iwi factions from utilising the land.
    
    Many forests & farms were thus created but the scheme fell victim to the emergence of the political Maori elite in the 80s.
    
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    August 14, 2018 6:59pm
    - realityczech
      
      The good old days when Maori got some practical help instead of useless handouts and virtue signalling.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:04pm
Morrissey

Simply brilliant: a renowned scholar
reflects on his epic takedown of a brutal liar.

“For your sake, Professor Dershowitz, I hope you didn’t write that book!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMbDKcQ-4r4
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August 14, 2018 5:49pm
- Morrissey
  
  Twelve supporters of that pathological liar and plagiarist Alan Dearth-o’-wits have registered their pathetic presence. Shame upon all of you.
  
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  August 15, 2018 7:25am
Jack5

Stop the political backlash.

State media – radio and TV – are in full power today diverting anti-government feelings over the teacher strike. Feelings such as, “there are always bloody strikes under Labour”.

Plenty of interviews with working mums explaining how they will look after their kids – and adding they of course support that teachers deserve higher pay. (Would a mum risk tough reaction against her kids by saying on TV that teachers are a bunch of bludgers who should be happy with their pay?)

A young male teacher on camera says wages are too low to raise a family and buy a house. Welcome to NZ, teacher. You’re in a land of rising GDP but dead GDP per capita.

Remember, parents, what these teachers are stuffing in the minds of your kids: the PC nonsense, the Maori kapihaka and language, and the Green propaganda, the pacifism, and the feminisation.
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August 14, 2018 6:22pm
- Longknives
  
  It’s the complete rewrite of History that they are teaching our kids that turns me off Teachers-
  ‘Maori lived Peacefully and at one with their Land’ ‘Pakeha stole all that land off Maori at Gunpoint’ etc etc
  
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  August 14, 2018 7:21pm
  - RF
    
    Jesus.
    
    I know a history professor who has a far different view of the Maori tribes in the early days. They gave no quarter and slaughtered their own kind…. women and children first….
    
    Reminds me of how the Japanese rewrote their history concerning their involvement in WW2..
    
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    August 14, 2018 7:46pm
    - realityczech
      
      Actually it was largely the Jews and Soviets that wrote the modern fable of world war 2 you have been brainwashed into believing.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:15pm
    - VicParking
      
      The Waikato tribes used to go over to the BOP, slaughter and bring back slaves to plant tender and harvest the Kumura crops. After the harvest they were slaughtered and eaten. This was repeated each year. This is why the BOP and Waikato maori’s hate each other to this day.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:34pm
  - Morrissey
    
    No teacher other than one of the calibre of Simon Bridges’s wife would teach either of those simplistic narratives. Mind you, such teachers also “teach” that the world is flat, and that the moon landing was a hoax.
    
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    August 15, 2018 7:28am
- rightoverlabour
  
  As a person who loathes the unions, I must say I support this strike and hope there will be many more. Not because I generally believe the poor teacher line ( I am one), but because if they can embarrass that fuckwit Hipkins, the more the merrier, and selfishly I’ll hopefully benefit with an increase ( although the downturn in the economy will probably make it a waste of time…)
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:07pm
  - itstricky
    
    who loathes the unions…I’ll hopefully benefit with an increase
    
    Well that’s a hell of an admission.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:15pm
    - Morrissey
      
      He’s a freeloader. A sponge. A do-nothing as well as a know-nothing. Feel sorry for the kids in his classroom.
      
      If he actually is a teacher, that is.
      
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      August 15, 2018 7:52am
  - Morrissey
    
    You’re a teacher, but you “loathe” the unions that have struggled over many years for you and other teachers to have tolerable work conditions and decent holidays. I feel sorry for the kids in your class. That is, if you ARE a teacher.
    
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    August 15, 2018 7:40am
- itstricky
  
  the PC nonsense, the Maori kapihaka and language, and the Green propaganda, the pacifism, and the feminisation
  
  Do you mean ‘looking after your neighbour’, ‘learning a language’, ‘looking after your planet’, ‘violence is not the answer’ and ‘girls can do anything’?
  
  That’s just everyone else in existence moving on with life in 2018 while the curmudgeons languish and moan about ‘how it was different in my day’
  
  If this is such an issue that you have to go over the top with descriptions like this, perhaps you should retrain, become a teacher and right the wrongs that you see. You know, fix it. Who knows – you might even be able to bring back the cane, or something.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:23pm
  - Jack5
    
    Is all that stuff easier than teaching arithmetic and geometry and grammar, Itstricky?
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:10pm
    - itstricky
      
      teaching arithmetic and geometry and grammar
      
      Clearly, whomever taught you grammar ‘back in the day’ when there was none of that other ‘PC nonsense’ did a sterling job.
      
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      August 14, 2018 9:42pm
      - Jack5
        
        I think you’re being sarcastic in this post, Istricky.
        
        If you are, have a look at your sentence:
        
        “Clearly, whomever taught you grammar … did a sterling job.”
        
        Shouldn’t it be “whoever” rather than “whomever”. The sentence requires the subjective case of the pronoun.?
        
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        August 15, 2018 1:53am
  - realityczech
    
    “just everyone else in existence moving on with life in 2018 ”
    
    An ignorant cultural supremist assuming the recently formed ideology of a tiny number of White countries is adopted by billions of others.
    
    Most of the world lives in India, China and the African continent. They don’t give a fuck about that nonsense.
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Pedestrians injured as car crashes barriers to Palace of Westminister – Parliament
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45180120
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August 14, 2018 7:18pm
- Longknives
  
  ‘Lone Wolf’ apparently…
  
  ‘Just Part and Parcel of living in London….’
  
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  August 14, 2018 7:24pm
  - Jack5
    
    ❗Kearealityczech❗ will be along any minute to tell us the driver was a Hasidic Jew.
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:14pm
    - realityczech
      
      No ✡Jacksie✡, the Jew sends people like you to do its dirty work. Just as the Jew sent the Romans to kill your Jeeeeesus. Just as it sends the USA to commit genocide in numerous Muslim countries today.
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:18pm
      - Jack5
        
        ????
        
        You are getting crazier by the day, ❗Kearealityczech❗
        
        FFS, lay off trying to solve insoluble string theory, rest this obsession with Jews, and get some help.
        
        Otherwise all this is going to end badly.
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:29pm
      - realityczech
        
        Sure Jacksie, when you can stop promoting Jewish religious hatreds against Muslims and spreading propaganda from a terrible war that ended 80 years ago.
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:45pm
nasska

Altar boys everywhere will sleep with relaxed sphincters tonight:

…..”Wilson was sentenced to a year’s detention with six months’ non-parole for covering up abuse by a paedophile priest in the New South Wales Hunter region in the 1970s.”…..

…..”When sentenced, Magistrate Robert Stone said there was “no remorse or contrition” showed by Wilson.

Mr Stone said protecting the Catholic Church was the archbishop’s “primary motive”. “……

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/364055/archbishop-philip-wilson-gets-home-detention-for-sex-abuse-cover-up
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August 14, 2018 7:37pm
EAD_TWO

Jacksie – Bryan Mark Riggs seminal work is well worth a read:

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587

Riggs meticulous research highlights that no fewer than 150,000 men in the German WW 2 armed forces – including the SS – were Jewish or mischlings (partly Jewish). And they weren’t just backroom drones or forced conscripts. They ‘included decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals.’

The book tells how Erhard Milch reached Field Marshall rank and did more than anyone, including Hermann Goering (to whom he directly reported) to develop the Luftwaffe into the formidable fighting force that it became. This was surprising because you’d imagine being Jewish – which he was – would have been something of a career dampener in the nazi military command. Actually Hitler thought so much of him that he ordered his Jewishness to be down-played and even promoted him ahead of such legendary and eponymous military aircraft designers as Willy Messerchmitt and Hugo Junkers.

Isn’t it a strange old world? Think of the time and effort those super-efficient Germans could have saved had they extracted the Jews serving in their own ranks first. Yet throughout the war there were Jews at every level, from Admiral and Field Marshall right down to the ordinary soldier, all serving valiantly in the German armed forces. Very strange.

Almost as strange as an SS Officer being jailed by an SS Court for ill-treating Jewish prisoners in the “Death Camp” of Auschwitz. Or Elie Wiesel and his father choosing to travel back with the retreating German forces rather than wait for “liberation” by the Red Army advancing on the same “Death Camp”.

Strange, strange, strange.
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August 14, 2018 7:42pm
- Jack5
  
  ❗卐EADolf,❗ old kamerad, your source talks of about 100,000 men of part-Jewish heritage serving in the Wehrmacht, which included the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine. That is about 0.77 per cent of the total number of men in the service.
  And as pointed out above, the Waffen SS (the Nazi core of German’s war machine) excluded anyone with a touch of Jewish heritage, though it had a Muslim unit.
  
  You will note that this is the number of men who were part-Jewish. And you will note that your Hitler himself as been shown to be part-Jewish.
  
  It was lucky for the Allies that Hitler overwhelmingly excluded Jews from his war effort. Hungarian Jews and other Jewish emigrants or refugees from Europe were important to the Manhattan project, the development of the atomic bomb.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:02pm
  - realityczech
    
    Jacksie, please tell us exactly what Nazi policy you disagree with? I have been reading your brain vomit for some time and can not find a single Nazi party point you don’t support in principle. The only minor policy adjustment is to change Jew for goyim.
    
    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm
    
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    August 14, 2018 8:11pm
    - Jack5
      
      Are ❗Kearealityczech❗ and 卐EADolf and Upandcomer three pseudonyms used by one clever parrot, or do the names represent three likeminded blog posters who chat privately by Enigma machines linked to cellphones?
      
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      August 14, 2018 8:22pm
      - realityczech
        
        No Jacksie, just a few normal people who think for themselves. And who I never see crying out for the persecution of people based on religion, the way you do. A few normies hover around on KB. No big conspiracy.
        
        Thanks for confirming you agree with all the Nazi party policies.
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:26pm
      - Jack5
        
        That’s a Gestapo style of interrogation conclusion, ❗Kearealityczech❗
        
        Irrelevant and meaningless.
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:33pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Jacksie, seriously seek some help. I’m concerned about your state of mind.
        
        The idea that Germans were normal people and then one day they went absolutely crazy and started randomly hating Jews for no good reason and then they calmed down and now they are normal again is hilarious
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:44pm
      - realityczech
        
        “That’s a Gestapo style of interrogation”
        
        Oh dear he really is unwell. His fantasies are becoming more detailed. Not only does he hallucinate about Nazi’s he now reckons their are Gestapo agents interrogating him on KB 🙂
        
        I wonder if he was out wearing a sandwich board on the street and ranting about Nazis when Lauren and Stephan were going to speak?
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:49pm
      - Jack5
        
        Re 卐EADolf’s 8.44 post:
        
        The German people were conned and misled.
        
        Hitler’s Nazis never got more than 44 per cent of the total vote, but with the original proportional voting system from which our MMP evolved, Hitler didn’t need 50 per cent.
        
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        August 14, 2018 8:53pm
      - realityczech
        
        I agree Jacksie that Hitler led the Germans to ruin. He had many good ideas, but his fixation about racial purity prevented him from achieving his goals and led him into committing terrible acts of no benefit to Germany.
        
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        August 14, 2018 9:00pm
- realityczech
  
  Jews make excellent Nazi. Just look at they way they behave in Israel today.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:07pm
- realityczech
  
  Millions of lice were gassed at Auschwitz in the war against typhus.
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:23pm
rightoverlabour

Proof that Labour/Greens/Winston’s mob is bad news. I blame them for this

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/travel/2018/08/auckland-knocked-out-of-top-10-most-liveable-cities.html
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August 14, 2018 8:40pm
Jack5

A hundred cars burn in youth gang attacks in once-peaceful Sweden.

❗Kearealityczech❗ will be along to tell us the youths were Hasidic Jews.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6058269/Sweden-car-firebombing-Masked-youth-gangs-coordinated-attacks-social-media-police-say.html
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August 14, 2018 8:48pm
- realityczech
  
  ‘Islamization of Europe a good thing’
  
  Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should ‘rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.’ He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God.
  
  As concerns grow over the increasing number of Muslims in Europe, it appears not everyone is bothered by the issue, including an Israeli rabbi who even welcomes the phenomenon.
  
  “With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt,” he explained.
  
  https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
  
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  August 14, 2018 8:54pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Why would we do that Jacksie? That is nothing by malicious lies❗
  
  What is true however is the role Jews have played in opening the floodgates of thirdworlders into Sweden:
  
  https://redice.tv/news/how-and-why-sweden-became-multicultural
  
  No one can deny that multiculturalism and mass immigration are a reality in Sweden today. However, it hasn’t always been so. As late as 1965, the social democratic Prime Minister of Sweden Tage Erlandersaid: “We Swedes live in an infinitely luckier situation. Our country’s population is homogeneous, not only in terms of race, but also in many other respects.” The demographic transformation of Sweden did not just happen to happen. It was a direct result of political decisions, which in turn could be undertaken because of some actor’s conscious agenda and very active advocacy in the 1960s and 1970s.
  
  Did you know Jacksie that pretty much zero of the Swedish Media is controlled by Swedes? The biggest owner is by far the Bonnier Family who have been responsible for pumping the non-stop propoganda into Swedish homes that has silenced their natural dissent as they get swamped by the 3rd world tide?
  
  Look for “Barbara Lerner Spectre” on YouTube. Here are her exact words on Israel’s equivalent of 60 Minutes:
  
  “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and we Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:01pm
  - realityczech
    
    Eddy if you want to get away from our brown brothers you will have to move to Israel.
    
    You can get a job rounding them up and loading them onto the transports to the camps. Plenty of work on, its happening full on now. Most of the Jews are busy shooting unarmed kids in the guts from behind the wire in the land they have invaded, so they need a hand.
    
    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/6/17059744/israel-deport-african-migrants-asylum
    
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/black-lives-matter-israel-180329061234932.html
    
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    August 14, 2018 9:08pm
Jack5

I’m signing off.

卐EADolf and ❗Kearealityczech❗ – old kamaraden – you can now hold your torchlight parade without further heckling.

If the corps band is late, you could hook this up to your sound system:

https://youtu.be/cYu3YAsqFbs
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August 14, 2018 9:03pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Have you run out of ad hominems to throw around Jacksie?
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:08pm
- realityczech
  
  Great music vid Jacksie. I have that blazing every morning when I have a big feed of pork knuckle and potato dumplings.
  
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  August 14, 2018 9:10pm
starboard

Classic… Love thy neighbour

https://youtu.be/B1dakp4FT0w
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August 14, 2018 9:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear, oh dear

Jewish Community leader turned away from a Labor/union function by the first Muslim MP in NSW Parliament.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-14/nsw-labor-apologises-after-jewish-leader-rejected-from-function/10120182
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August 14, 2018 10:05pm
- Morrissey
  
  Maggy, as you know perfectly well, the most virulent anti-Semites are so-called Christians who support the outlaw state of Israel.
  
  I am concerned that you are trying to construe a simple mix-up at the door as a racist incident. I suspect you are willingly amplifying some very nasty propaganda.
  
  Shame on you, Maggy.
  
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  August 15, 2018 7:48am
Monique Watson

I suspect Haumaha is Gone. I mean, sorry. On Leave. DCF. Don’t Come Friday.
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