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starboard

About time there was a puff piece on Soimon..

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105577690/pushed-into-politics-by-crime-nat-leader-simon-bridges-is-the-sum-of-his-parts
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July 28, 2018 9:07am
- Inandout
  
  The comments are fascinating in how the Labour crowd are venomous toward Bridges. Personally I still don’t think he has the temperament to forcefully highlight the CoL weekly failures. The other school of thought is that he should just let the CoL destroy itself in the eyes of the voters. The one positive thing is that seeking out those who admit to voting for the CoL is becoming more difficult.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:46am
  - igm
    
    I could not believe my eyes when I saw the article. How the hell did this get past the union controlled senior so-called journos?
    
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    July 28, 2018 9:58am
    - sooty
      
      It’s the weekend. The kiddies are running riot!
      
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      July 28, 2018 12:13pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Sugar rush! Who gave the idiots sweets?
        
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        July 28, 2018 12:55pm
    - ztev
      
      Stacey is the token national party cheerleader is how
      Notice that was in government for 9 years and a minister since 2014…not a peep about that ( longer than he was a prosecutor in Tauranga)
      
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      July 28, 2018 12:13pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Nanaia Mahouta has achieved exactly what after two decades?
        
        Stoneage scribble on the chin is not an answer
        
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        July 28, 2018 12:59pm
      - igm
        
        Why did you not arse of your trike arsehole?
        
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        July 28, 2018 2:43pm
      - igm
        
        ztrev: You either fabricate answers, or is Jane feeding you what she wants to see circulated, Fairfax having less followers than this blog.
        
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        July 28, 2018 4:05pm
  - artemisia
    
    Mr Bridges is not thick. Neither is some of his caucus. Quite possible they know exactly what they are doing.
    
    Voters here don’t like relentless negativity.
    
    Mind you, they don’t seem too keen on relentless posidividy either. That might be because it is all but invisible underneath the spin.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:02am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      It’s too early in the electoral cycle for National to be rolling out policy. And whilst Bridges hasn’t landed many hits on Ardern and Peters, others on the front bench have belted the crap out of their ministerial opponents.
      
      Bridges is playing the long game, and that’s what the trip around the country was about. The fact that Labour banged on this week about Bridges being about to be replaced suggests to me that Bridges’ numbers are trending upwards on Labour’s internal polling.
      
      This weekend’s National Party Conference is important for Bridges, and they’ve got it off to a good start, with a choir from South Auckland Middle School (one of those hated charter schools) singing the National Anthem. Suck on that Chippie!
      
      https://twitter.com/NZNationalParty/status/1022957184827633664
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:19am
      - ztev
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        Using school kids for political purposes ?
        isnt that bad when ‘labour does it’, even using a school hall ‘is bad’, but here they are props at the political party ~~hate fest~~ conference
        
        Was this the real reason Lauren Southern was ‘delayed’, the Middle School would be double booked ! hahahahaha.
        Seriously they wouldnt be allowed to hog the headlines and leave Simon for the breakfast TV
        
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        July 28, 2018 12:18pm
      - starboard
        
        It beats fiddling with school kids and plying then full of piss zitrev. You lot are filthy disgusting bastards.
        
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        July 28, 2018 12:54pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Sorry, can only give you one uptick for that. Equally, i can only give Z one downtick but i can also report the useless feck as well!
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:02pm
  - rockape
    
    They have been to every National Leader be it Key English were it to be Adams or Collins they still attack the man not the policies.
    
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    July 28, 2018 4:13pm
- Philview
  
  I have also read an Audrey Young article today that was fairly positive towards Simon. Both articles suggest failed social policy has created high prison numbers. The Lefties try to use this to disguise the real cause which is Liberalism.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:06pm
hullkiwi

Its here, good morning and go and sun tan yourself WoO!

Good morning all.
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July 28, 2018 9:07am
Fletch

Anyone see the blood moon? Too many clouds here…
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July 28, 2018 9:08am
- VicParking
  
  Just looked at my eyes in the mirror this morning
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:26am
  - holysheet
    
    That’s what stoooopidboy sees each morning when he looks at his arse in the mirror.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:21am
starboard

Yeah, whatever…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105215188/is-new-zealands-attitude-towards-law-and-order-changing
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July 28, 2018 9:08am
- Southern Raider
  
  Did you look at the comments? They suggest the journalist is way off track
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:58am
  - starboard
    
    Absolutely did ! Waaaay off track.
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:56pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Southern Raider and Starboard,
    
    “Historically, being “tough on crime” has been a vote-winner, and the National Party is attempting to use this issue to gain popularity, and drive a wedge between Labour and its coalition partner NZ First.”
    
    National the” law and order” party with accelerated attacks on Dairies and so forth under their watch?
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:00pm
    - dubya
      
      I doubt many of the people attacking dairy owners vote National.
      
      More like to vote for The Stupid Peoples’ Princess, if they’re even out of bed or not busy raping their underage niece.
      
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      July 28, 2018 1:09pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Traditionally NZ First was “tough on crime” too stephie, which was another reason why them jumping into bed with Labour was simply a marriage of convenience.
      
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      July 28, 2018 1:28pm
    - starboard
      
      Fair comment shariaboy, but the main driver behind dairy robberies is/was turia and her dirty cronies with their attack on smokers. National really did nothing to stem the violence, they could have implemented a minimum 10 year sentencing for that particular offence, regardless of age, but didn’t. They should have let dairy owners arm themselves, but didn’t. Fail.
      
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      July 28, 2018 5:01pm
      - backster
        
        I note from the graph in the article that the largest increase seem to be during Labour administration and level out during Nationals.
        
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        July 28, 2018 5:12pm
      - CharlieBrown
        
        Well national did give over 50+ votes to back up Turia’s crusade… somebody they never needed but it felt better given nationals center-left stink.
        
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        July 28, 2018 5:35pm
trout

So Trump’s economy is going gang busters. 4.0% growth and a trade deficit reducing by billions. And the cause is apparently Tax Cuts and the stimulus they provide. Gee, why didn’t we think of that?
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July 28, 2018 9:09am
- Lance
  
  NZ got feelz instead
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:13am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I hope the US deficit doesn’t become a problem for their government to handle.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:13am
  - ztev
    
    You think $1 trill deficit in a boom economy is a problem? It will only grow to $1.5 trill in a recession
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:22pm
- igm
  
  Don’t overlook the return of soldier’s bodies. Seems even Obumma could not do this!
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:00am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Trump thanked President Kim for his help in searching out the bodies of the American soldiers on Nth Korean soil and repatriating them back to the USA. This repatriation of soldiers fighting in the Korean war would not have happened without Trump schmoozing Kim in Singapore. Well done President Trump.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:04am
    - sooty
      
      I like that when they say “President Trump”.
      
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      July 28, 2018 12:15pm
  - stephieboy
    
    igm , yes he did with these fallen US Soldiers from Afghanistan.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVm5Lu5UvY
    
    Idiot!
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:04pm
    - igm
      
      Well he was a Muslim loving POS like you.
      
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      July 28, 2018 2:47pm
- DigNap15
  
  Because our leaders think Venezuela is a bedda model to follow
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:03am
Albert_Ross

GD! Hurray! I was beginning to fear for my sanity at not being able to post and having instead to roll about on the floor holding my head and howling in pain:

Dear sweet holy effing God, the utter, utter stupidity of Rosemary McLeod.
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July 28, 2018 9:11am
Fletch

Trump interrupted his press conference on the amazing 4.1% GDP to talk about the arrival of the remains of American soldiers who fought in the Korean war being returned to American soil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyKNKaiuWCc
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July 28, 2018 9:13am
- ztev
  
  It was a single quarter – will be revised down
  
  His first year jobs numbers were still lower than last 4 years of Obama says Forbes magazine.
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:23pm
- cha
  
  the amazing 4.1% GDP
  
  Which would rank as 5th strongest quarter
  of the Obama presidency.
  
  —5.1% Q2 2014
  —4.9% Q3 2014
  —4.7% Q4 2011
  —4.5% Q4 2009
  
  https://screenshots.firefox.com/oKO9hFKcq6ELttMp/tradingeconomics.com
  
  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:40pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Tell us about the lows in GDP in Obamas ‘economy’
    I think it’s probably more important to have consistency
    Time will tell if Trump can achieve that. But Obama didn’t.
    
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    July 28, 2018 3:43pm
    - ztev
      
      last 4 years of job growth under Obama were ALL better than first year under Trump – would have been 6 years better except for a small revision
      
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      July 28, 2018 3:53pm
      - axeman
        
        Yeah booby but you haven’t noted that the Kenyan’s administration was the first to NOT reach 3% ANNUAL economic growth during his EIGHT LONG YEARS of mediocre government
        
        What happened? Did Caropotamus fail to get the proper info from her Labour Party Research Unit?
        http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/31/fact-check-trump-claims-gdp-never-hit-3-under-obama/
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:45pm
CharlieBrown

Another interesting search experiment on google:

site:www.tvnz.co.nz “far-left” – 40 results

site:www.tvnz.co.nz “far-right” 6060 results

Neutral media… yeah right.
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July 28, 2018 9:14am
- Harkman
  
  On top of this a few years Anika Moa said “I don’t like white people.” She fills in on TVNZs 7:00 PM show, just imagine a white person getting away with the reverse of this? No way.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:51am
  - CharlieBrown
    
    I logged a complaint with them, like I did with stuff.co.nz. And to Stuff’s credit the number of “far right” references went down from 66,000 to less than 5,000 after I did that. Will be interesting to see how TVNZ responds.
    
    It seems that journalism and media is a profession that attracts more leftists, and unlike the media of old that could keep their political leaning seperate from their reporting, today’s graduates just aren’t intelligent enough to report without using subjective and bias words. I can see why too, I recall doing a communications paper at university and bias was only taught in the terms of gender bias eg, using “gender neutral” nouns, so Mankind was bad and humankind (or “people kind” if you are a retarded Canadian) was good; rather than using objective terms.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:06am
  - RF
    
    TVNZ must be very worried that punters are refusing to watch her on the 7pm show.
    
    She is a foul mouthed tramp.
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:19pm
  - starboard
    
    moa is a fat tattooed ugly maori lesbian and I dont like her.
    How do you like that, moa?
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:04pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Ah, stop being so kind to her, she may be offended…
      
      I don’t watch TV so I don’t know what she is going on about. Didn’t Moas become extinct? Maybe she’ll follow ….
      
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      July 28, 2018 5:19pm
Manolo

It would have been impossible without Obama, says our resident Muslim:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/us-gdp-q2-2018.html

Gross domestic product grew at a solid 4.1% pace in the second quarter, its best pace since 2014, boosting hopes that the economy is ready to break out of its decade-long slumber.

The number matched expectations from economists surveyed by Reuters and was boosted by a surge in consumer spending and business investment. Stock market futures edged lower on the news while government bond yields moved lower.

That’s the fastest rate of the growth since the 4.9% in the third quarter of 2014 and the third-best growth rate since the Great Recession.
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July 28, 2018 9:17am
- Viking2
  
  Have to say I am waiting an extra 6 weeks for machinery than we anticipated back in January. Suppliers suppliers are way behind in production of parts.
  
  Sign of good things but unfortunately our dollar has cost us.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:56am
secondcumming

“IT’S A BOY!” I shouted, tears rolling down my face….”I DON’T BELIEVE IT, A BOY!!”
It was at that moment I swore to never visit thailand again.
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July 28, 2018 9:19am
holysheet

Michael (call me Sir) Cullen who had been diagnosed with a terminal illness was determined to prove wrong the saying, “You can’t take it with you.” After much thought and consideration, the old socialist finally figured out how to take at least some of his money with him when he died. He instructed his wife to go to the local Kiwibank and withdraw enough money to fill two pillowcases. He then directed her to take the bags of money to the attic and leave them directly above his bed. His plan—when he passed away, he would reach out and grab the bags on his way to Heaven. Several weeks after the funeral, Cullens wife was up in the attic cleaning and found the two pillowcases stuffed with cash. “Oh, that old fool,” she exclaimed. “I knew he should have had me put the money in the basement.”
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July 28, 2018 9:20am
Niz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/105817476/napier-girls-high-school-ball-cancelled-on-police-advice-over-health-and-safety-concerns

Cancelled for unspecified health and safety concerns. What does that even mean? Was somebody with repugnant views going to turn up? Was somebody’s dress too short?
Seriously, the police have to do better than that don’t they?
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July 28, 2018 9:23am
- Nookin
  
  There was a threat to disrupt the ball. Police are investigating the threat. They considered it to be sufficiently serious to advise the school to can the event. Maybe we should wait and see before denouncing?
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:51am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Thing’s veto? Bad precedent to allow it.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:36am
  - Southern Raider
    
    I hope the local mayor follows Goffs example and makes sure the school has no access to public venues. Can’t have an event happening with threat of protest or disruption
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:27pm
- Nookin
  
  To my down-ticker and the supporters of Niz’s comment:
  
  By your standards, if the police had a whiff that there may be problems at this teenagers’ party they should have ignored it. Right?
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12097003
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:24am
  - Niz
    
    I think you may have missed my point. My issue wasn’t that the event was cancelled, it was that the police wouldn’t say why.
    How about giving an example of something that the police think is serious enough to cancel a school ball, but must be kept secret, giving only some vague reason why it needed to be cancelled. The newshub article also tells us that students weren’t to talk about it either. Why on earth not?
    It can’t be a bomb threat because we get told about them (e.g. the event at Te Papa that was mentioned in the article). What about somebody with a gun? Wouldn’t you like to know if somebody with a gun was making threats?
    If they were trying not to tip somebody off, I think they gave the game away when they cancelled the event.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:48am
    - starboard
      
      NZ Police are out of control. Sheesh, next up they will probably come down hard on the local bowling clubs grog licence. Outta control I tells ya.
      
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      July 28, 2018 1:04pm
    - Southern Raider
      
      Apparently there wasn’t enough transgender bathrooms available at the venue so the Greens brought the Police in
      
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      July 28, 2018 2:09pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Wasn’t there a school ball cancelled last month in Auckland due to an anonymous bomb threat? Probably a teenager with a grudge – a nasty thing to do given the angst and expense that parents go through in school ball season.
      
      The Napier incident could be a copycat but they will find him/her because the idiot(s) concerned will inevitably out themselves. Don’t expect any consequences though.
      
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      July 28, 2018 5:59pm
    - doggone7
      
      They wouldn’t say what it was because some idiot would take it on themselves to copy. Then the cops would be criticised for announcing and advertising the stunt.
      
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      July 28, 2018 11:26pm
Fletch

Looks like Trump is going to do away with Obama regulations that mandated car makers must make sure their cars do an average of 50 miles per gallon by 2025. And how would car manufacturers have accomplished that anyway? By making cars lighter, which causes more accidents and death.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/27/trump-brakes-fuel-economy-overregulation/

So, a good thing. As usual liberals think nothing through before passing laws they think will save the planet.
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July 28, 2018 9:23am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes that whole more mpg and lower emmmsions was California cluster f..ck
  The manufacturers are/were doing their best. But the law makers thought that a clean perpetual motion motor was just around the corner.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:06am
- Viking2
  
  By making cars lighter, which causes more accidents and death.
  
  As is happening in NZ. So the response is to lower the speed limit. Not fix the roads or buy better built cars.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:58am
  - dubya
    
    Lighter cars aren’t inherently less safe. The new Suzuki Swift for example is even lighter than the previous two models despite being bigger, and has an excellent safety rating. Whereas some heavy modern cars, like the Ford Mustang, have dreadful crash ratings.
    
    Most manufacturers (aside from Suzuki and Mazda, who are embracing lightness) are actually just putting in much smaller capacity turbo petrol engines to achieve efficiency, as well as adopting the horrible (if you enjoy driving) CVT transmission.
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:18pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Americans want to drive SUVs and Utes only. Ford has stopped making cars in USA. You can make 50mpg cars but not draggy heavy SUVs.
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:38am
  - dubya
    
    Very true, any perceived benefits of greater power train efficiency are quickly lost to heavier, taller and bulkier bodies as automakers fill buyer demand for SUVs. The 50mpg target just won’t be met unless Americans change their buying habits
    
    The once humble NZ staple ute is always on jacked up suspension these days, even if it’s only a two wheel drive model.
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:25pm
  - rockape
    
    I dont know My 10 year old Deisel Jeep Cherokee still gives me 8 litres per 100KM so not far off. It weighs in at 2 tons.
    
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    July 28, 2018 4:20pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      that’s only 29mpg. It is a huge distance from there to 50mpg
      
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      July 28, 2018 8:04pm
- CharlieBrown
  
  Be careful how to use the word liberal – call them controlling leftists – to be liberal you must believe in individual freedom to make ones own choices unless you directly threat anothers property or being, not mandated control of others choices.
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:44pm
holysheet

Oh the shame. Just when Cindy is about to rejoin the fray and gain the limelight, another “Royal Couple” announced they are having a baby.
Yes sports royalty Ritchie and Gemma announce they are expecting.
Now Cindy will be rightly pissed at about to be knocked off the front pages of the Wimmins mags.
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July 28, 2018 9:24am
- RF
  
  Ritchie and Gemma were also very classy with their announcement and not “look at us we are famous.”
  
  Oh the humility.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:38am
- calendar girl
  
  I see that next Thursday will be 6 weeks since the birth of the Baby of the Nation.
  
  Having the PM back in the House after her six weeks of maternity leave will be welcome. I hope that the baby is healthy, and doing well. But is the ‘First Man’ properly trained yet, and ready for his new responsibilities? Will he have a nanny to assist him?
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:42am
  - holysheet
    
    One, only one? Hes got a whole phone list on speed-dial.
    
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    July 28, 2018 9:44am
    - sooty
      
      Nah!. She wont be back, I always said that she will turn up after the new year break. If she was fronting up at the end of her six weeks, the far left media would be having wet dreams in every newspaper, tv and womans weekly. Have you noticed that she has gone all quite lately. Not a thing is said. But I don’t watch the Labour party political tv news or read their far left newspapers.I think that she is hoping that after the break things have got better in that clusterfuck of a goverment. She will come back then as an ordinary elected MP.
      
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      July 28, 2018 12:30pm
      - KKKKatee
        
        We live in hope. To her credit, she did infer that things would go quiet for 6 weeks or so. So thank god we haven’t been subjected to gushy photo shoots until next week maybe or the week after that?
        
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        July 28, 2018 3:48pm
  - rockape
    
    Labour seems very quiet on that subject, I wonder why?
    
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    July 28, 2018 4:21pm
- kevn
  
  @holy… A married couple having a baby, nice.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:50am
- itstricky
  
  You guys seem to spend a lot of your time embroiled in social gossip.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:53am
  - doggone7
    
    That’s a bit harsh. While they may be busy with that, they’ll be working really hard at other things. Like busting their guts trying to get up to the maturity level of the PM’s babe.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:08am
    - itstricky
      
      Like busting their guts trying to get up to the maturity level of the PM’s babe.
      
      …by watching ‘E’ News and reading the Entertainment pages.
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:53am
- softail 1450
  
  holysheet nah,Jacinda won’t be worried she’s still got ,
  The cross dressers weekly,
  The gay gazette,
  Dykes daily news,
  Sex change nation,
  and the NZ herald to give her and bubba all the exposure she desires.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:09am
- Huevon
  
  Imagine the genes that kid is inheriting!
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:41am
  - stephieboy
    
    At least you a decidedly and most importantly not contaminating their gene pool with your mutations.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:44am
    - holysheet
      
      Unlike you trying to mutate your genes with a goat?
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:49am
      - starboard
        
        Bahahahahahahahaha !!!
        
        Massive bitch slap to the shariaboy.
        
        Fool.
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:10pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    If Neve doesn’t turn out to be a rabid leftie later on in life, there’ll be something wrong I fear.
    
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    July 28, 2018 3:49pm
RF

Whale has sprung Helen Clark as being a liar.

In spite of her claiming she had never heard of Sir Ray Avery prior to the Eden Park nonsense it has been revealed that both Clark & Avery were keynote speakers at a medical conference at Christchurch in 2014. Christ that’s only 4 years ago.

Maybe she has old Crones disease.
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July 28, 2018 9:32am
- holysheet
  
  Nah old crones don’t get that. They just get dementia.
  If she has forgotten a meeting 4 years ago, I pity Auckland if she ever gets to be mayor.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:42am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Maybe she will turn up in Tuatapere and become mayor there. They won’t (or care) who she is because she is the only one not related to anyone else in town) and she won’t know where she is!
    
    (My apologies to the many good people in Tuatapere for this slur on a place I have never been. Your town is as far away from Auckland geographically that is possible to be, aside from the Auckland Islands where they have an Emperor penguin for a mayor, whereas Auckland have a dick. The penguin i understand that he she it is doing a grand job, always well turned out on all occasions, pongs a bit though)
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:07am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Benneydale would be a good place for her to preside over I reckon.
      
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      July 28, 2018 3:50pm
- stephieboy
  
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  RF,
  
  Sir Ray Avery is not always cut to be what he and his fans claim according to Trade Mew Founder Same Morgan,
  
  BEST OF THE WEEK
  Sam Morgan details dealings with Ray Avery
  
  [Updated with reaction from Sir Ray Avery].
  
  “One of New Zealand’s biggest philanthropic funders has confirmed he gave significant money to enterprises run by Sir Ray Avery, but would not do so again.
  Sam Morgan became one of New Zealand’s most significant philanthropists and investors after selling Trade Me to Fairfax in 2006.
  
  Morgan’s foundation, Jasmine Social Investments, has given more than $50 million to international organisations working on poverty and related issues, including projects to reduce infant mortality and improve maternal health. Jasmine Investments has full-time staff focused on due diligence….”
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/07/26/167468/former-funder-of-ray-avery-speaks
  
  BTW I believe it is called Chrohns disease. Yours and Holy crap, CJD disease.
  
  Surely?
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:00am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I believe it is called Chrohns disease.
    
    Have you never heard of paronomasia?
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:01am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, nope. Tell us more?
      
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      July 28, 2018 1:06pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Nah – She’ll have CRAFT disease.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:56am
- ztev
  
  Where did she say ‘shes never heard of Avery’ ?
  
  maybe she said she never heard of his ‘pod’ – the donors are all saying that Avery was the bullshit artist
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:27pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Pin dancing on the head of; rearrange
    
    Knob. Rearrange that as well if you wish, you will find the answer is the same
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Pete George details the trials and tribulations of trying to deal with LaudaFinem bloggers.
Cameron Slater has aligned himself with some very dubious characters.
https://yournz.org/2018/07/28/the-nottingham-private-prosecutions/
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July 28, 2018 9:43am
- ztev
  
  Motto is
  DONT use your real name online or with an email address
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:45pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Actually ztev, an even better course of action would be not to make allegations against people which are not supported by any credible evidence. It’s a course of action you would be well advised to follow.
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:53pm
Hugh Pavletich

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… Severely unaffordable (5.4 Median Multiple) Christchurch: A story of speculators / investors exiting in droves, due to a sustained period of ramped up new housing production …

Via ….

Christchurch house prices may pick up as city buyers enjoy most affordable market in more than a decade | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/105774354/christchurch-house-prices-may-pick-up-as-city-buyers-enjoy-most-affordable-market-in-more-than-a-decade

Home values by suburb and annual change … CoreLogic (median or average ?)

https://infogram.com/_/9ClImBYh4YBE5Wzow2ZG

Latest Stats NZ Building Consents … May …

https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-may-2018
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QV’s average property values have fallen in Auckland, Tauranga and Wellington over the last three months – vendors warned against unrealistic price expectations … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94608/qvs-average-property-values-have-fallen-auckland-tauranga-and-wellington-over-last

Quotable Value is warning flattening or falling house prices mean we are now in a buyer’s market and some vendors may have unrealistic expectations about what their property is worth …

… In Christchurch sales activity was slowing while property values were flat overall, according to QV Christchurch property consultant Hamish Collins.

There was growing interest for new builds in and around the city centre, but an oversupply of land and developments in fringe districts and on the outskirts of the city, he said.

These included areas such as Halswell, Wigram, Preston and the Selwyn and Waimakariri districts.

“We are seeing some developers offering new builds or recently constructed properties at discounts as a way to free up cash for their next project,” Collins said.

“This is having a flow on effect on the overall value of new builds or existing properties in these areas,” he said. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… A few further lessons from Greater Christchurch … (The GREATS are the smaller and functional Selwyn and Waimakariri Councils) …

Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame
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July 28, 2018 9:43am
- Harkman
  
  Christchurch is about to collapse.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:53am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    NEW ZEALAND: WHY HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IS A NONSENSE ISSUE …
    
    It is now CRITICALLY IMPORTANT to move away from the grossly inefficient and costly cottage style construction industry, so that a normal production type industry is restores in New Zealand (like Australia and North America) … so that international standard productivity and pricing levels emerge …
    
    Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build
    
    … extract …
    
    … We need to let builders get on and do their job and not be underwriters of land development.
    
    Generation Homes is building 300 to 400 houses a year. We could easily double that within our existing resources if there were infrastructure funding assistance from councils for new affordable housing developments. … read more via hyperlink above
    
    Watch what Bill and Alfred Levitt created following World War 11 …
    
    The rise of suburban areas during the 1950’s … Youtube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKTI0wR-a7Q
    
    Creators of communities … Youtube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OApZePeJSdU&feature=youtu.be
    
    This Man Is the Father of Modern American Suburbia … Smithsonian … Youtube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksmH5OcLQFw
    
    … then … soon after … Malcom McLean created the modern container industry … dropping shipping costs dramatically … for example with what cost $6 with break – bulk cargo handling to just 16 cents with containerization ! …
    
    The Power of Outsiders – Video – NYTimes.com
    
    https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/100000004807604/the-power-of-outsiders.html
    
    … note here the extremely small costs of shipping selected items around the planet … so that transportation costs are pretty much irrelevant today in the whole scheme of things (thank you Malcom McLean ! ) …
    
    Malcom McLean and Containerisation | Maersk Line – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8UU9kafJ0
    
    … so that today …
    
    1. Standard detached housing should not cost any more than 3.0 times annual household incomes of specific metros ( refer Annual Demographia Surveys ; recent Glaeser & Gyourko paper ; Recent Reserve Bank of Australia paper ).
    
    2. New fringe starter house and land packages should cost around 2.5 times … at development ratios of 20% serviced lot and the balance construction ( Definition of an affordable housing market http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning ).
    
    3. Apartment / townhouses should be around 2.0 times ( to illustrate refer Houston Association of Realtors Monthly Report ).
    
    4. Fringe manufactured house (prefab) and land packages should be around 1.5 times ( refer Leaky Homes And An Architect’s Musing’s | Scoop News March 2010 published Interest Co NZ as ‘Houston: We have a housing affordability problem’
    
    The housing affordability problem is a nonsense issue.
    
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    July 28, 2018 4:45pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/weekend-reading-28-29-july-2018/#comment-3154608 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/why-this-is-a-mortgage-credit-crunch/#comment-3154614
      
      Mortgage Prison: Sydney Home Prices Suffer Largest Annual Decline Since 2008 | Zero Hedge
      
      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-27/mortgage-prison-sydney-home-prices-suffer-largest-annual-decline-2008
      
      Authored by Mike Shedlock via MishTalk,
      
      Home prices in Sydney and Melbourne are back to 2016 levels. That is a tiny down payment as to what is coming.
      
      News AU reports House Prices Drop in Sydney, as Melbourne Prices Stall.
      
      Tumbling house prices in Sydney and Melbourne are the main drivers behind the first annual drop in national property prices in six years, a new report shows. The national median house price fell 1.0 per cent over the June quarter and year, according to a report by property classifieds group Domain released on Thursday. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      July 28, 2018 8:06pm
waikatogirl

RF: “Maybe she has old Crones disease.”

Nah, Hulun is just self-absorbed. Why look outwards at an inferior world, or in her own words, “the haters and wreckers”, when she can admire her own superiority and fester in her own bitterness. ?
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July 28, 2018 9:46am
lastmanstanding

Ive been thinking to quote Richard Prebble. With all the working parties working groups etc the COL have set up at least it has prevented even more carnage like destroying the oil and gas industry.

However I shudder to think what will happen when all these groups report back with policies that will send the economy into free fall. inflation thru the roof and require massive tax/levy hikes to pay for them.

Simon et al have really got to be ready to counter each and every new policy pointing out in graphic detail the harm it will do to the COL voters.

Like the new domestic violence ( holiday) law that will see women not being employed least they disrupt the business when hubby/boyfriend decided to use them as a punching bag.

Small business owner wont take that risk on to potential cause fiscal harm to their business. Sel reservation always trumps “doing the public good”
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July 28, 2018 9:50am
- david
  
  It is dangerous to look at it policy by policy, sector by sector. The real damage wil occur through cross-sector effects where policies that have been created in isolation clash and the effects will multiply to catastrophic proportions.
  The COL has no-one with the intellect or skill to see the big picture so they will pick away at it bit by bit and eventually the whole house of cards will crash. Economies are both resilient (to some policy changes) and fragile (to others) and my concern is that they are targeting some of the more finely balanced aspects of the NZ economy. Particularly energy, taxation exchange rate influencers and land based industries.
  Fasten your seat belts folks, we are in for a bumpy ride.
  
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  July 29, 2018 2:47pm
DifferentPerspective

More proof that Obama is from Kenya
Very embarrassingly for the DNC, more proof has emerged to establish beyond doubt that Obama needs to be impeached for standing for the US presidency when he wasn’t eligible. I am not holding my breath waiting for the utterly trustworthy FBI to do their job – I’m sure they’ll find a reason why this sort of evidence isn’t substantial enough to lock-up a crook.

I mean this is only ex-President Obama, making a public statement that he visited Kenya three years ago “as the first sitting US President to come from Kenya”.
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July 28, 2018 9:51am
- itstricky
  
  Snore.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:59am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Is there anything more gullible than a socialist who thinks that quoting wiki proves anything at all. It’s in the man’s own voice in his own words?
    
    Or are you suggesting that he merely “mis-spoke”? In the way that he continues to “mis-speak” when he refers to his “wife” as “Michael”. Or maybe the way he “mis-spoke” when he told an audience that he wanted to know what “magic wand” that Trump had that would bring back all the jobs Obama had ushered overseas?
    
    I could go on but …. deaf ears and all that.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      DP, all the latest Obama conspiracy theories debunked one at a time,
      
      http://thehill.com/social-tags/barack-obama-citizenship-conspiracy-theories
      
      The Flying Saucers have landed or fake moon landings tuff!
      
      LOL
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:22am
      - pentwig
        
        so you are back from your self confessed pedo perving this saturday morning stupidboy
        
        tsk,tsk
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:29am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Well at least it’s progress, you’ve now grown up enough to join the rest of us ordinary, decent folks who now don’t believe a single word the compulsive lying Obama says – because clearly you don’t believe the words coming out of his mouth in this case.
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:41pm
  - KevOB
    
    The Official Fact Checkers have seen…
    
    That implicitly proves the genuine doubts about the birth certificate. Time will tell and Obama is not out of firing range yet.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:27am
- MCos
  
  Apart from anything else Obama can’t be impeached because he no longer holds office.
  
  Maybe President Trump could attempt to deport him. Why don’t you drop a line to Ambassador Brown.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:06am
- Fletch
  
  I’m not sure about Kenya, but as I have pointed out in the past, Obama didn’t have enough nominations to run for president in the primary. Two Democrats were convicted and jailed for forging 9 pages of signatures to get him there.
  
  A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts.
  
  Prosecutors say that in President Obama’s case, nine of the petition pages were apparently forged. Each petition contains up to 10 names, making a possible total of 90 names, which, if faked, could have brought the Obama total below the legal limit required to qualify. Prosecutors say 13 Clinton petitions were apparently forged, meaning up to 130 possibly fake signatures. Even if 130 signatures had been challenged, it would have still left Mrs. Clinton with enough signatures to meet the 500 person threshold.
  
  Levco said a total of “100 to 200” signatures had been forged on Obama’s and Clinton’s petitions.
  
  Numerous voters told Fox News that they never signed the petitions.
  
  “That’s not my signature,” Charity Rorie, a mother of four, told us when we showed her the Obama petition with her name and signature. She was stunned, saying that it “absolutely” was a fake.
  
  Charity told Fox News that her husband’s entry was also a forgery, and that they have never been contacted by investigators or any authorities looking into the scandal.
  
  “It’s scary, it’s shocking. It definitely is illegal,” she told us.
  
  Robert Hunter, Jr. told Fox news that his name was faked, too.
  
  “I did not sign for Barack Obama,” he told us. As he examined the Obama petition in his hands, Hunter pointed out that “I always put ‘Junior’ after my name, every time…there’s no ‘Junior’ there
  
  Even a former Democratic Governor of Indiana, Joe Kernan, told Fox News that his name was forged.
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud.html
  
  It’s likely Obama never should have been president. Think of all the heartache that would have saved.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:07am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , oh come on now yet another Obama conspiracy fantasy from the stellar Fox Faux news. 2013 AD
    
    Now don’t forget tomorrow’ morning’s black mass.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:16am
    - Fletch
      
      CNN reported on it, also referencing the Fox News report.
      
      http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-964323
      
      Wiki shows the same thing.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Democratic_primary,_2008
      
      I’d be interested on where the guy is now. When i did a Google I saw that someone of a similar name is deceased. He could possibly be dead now.
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:43am
      - RF
        
        4 shots in the back of the head.
        
        Another Clinton suicide……
        
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        July 29, 2018 12:44am
  - ross411
    
    If I were President and the other side of the political spectrum made a big deal of me not being an American, but rather born in the country I was speaking in, I’d probably joke I came from there as well. That’s the most likely explanation, but people who want to believe, will latch onto anything.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:20am
    - stephieboy
      
      ” latch onto anything? “like Fake moon landings, That’s the nature of the beast.
      
      Alt-right nuttery at its best
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:26am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Sqwawk – alt-right sqwawk!
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:37am
      - KevOB
        
        Outdone by Alt-left thuggery.
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:37am
  - ztev
    
    Fletch , thats not up to your normal standard . “Obama mightnt have been president” if he wasnt on The Indiana Dem Primary ( note not general election)
    
    Well he definitely wasnt on the Michigan primary
    On December 10, 2007, the Michigan Democratic Party issued a press release stating that the primary would be held on January 15, 2008, and that the Democratic ballot would contain only six choices: Hillary Clinton, Christopher Dodd, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Uncommitted, and Write-in.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Democratic_primary,_2008
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:09pm
Hugh Pavletich

Australian politicians programme of economic destruction … continued … essential reading …

The price of vacant land in Melbourne has jumped by a staggering 40% in a year | Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-housing-affordability-population-growth-property-prices-2018-7

• The cost of vacant residential land in many parts of Australia is soaring, especially in Melbourne.

• Lot sales are tumbling. Along with falling home prices, this is starting to have an impact on new residential investment.

• Land costs make up the vast bulk of housing prices in most instances. … read more via hyperlink above …
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Mortgage Prison: Sydney Home Prices Suffer Largest Annual Decline Since 2008 … (Mike Shedlock) MISH TALK

https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/mortgage-prison-sydney-home-prices-suffer-largest-annual-decline-since-2008-tZlmCh8jK0aWzie4NHh-Tg/

by Mike Mish Shedlock

Home prices in Sydney and Melbourne are back to 2016 levels. That is a tiny down payment as to what is coming.

News AU reports House Prices Drop in Sydney, as Melbourne Prices Stall.

Tumbling house prices in Sydney and Melbourne are the main drivers behind the first annual drop in national property prices in six years, a new report shows. The national median house price fell 1.0 per cent over the June quarter and year, according to a report by property classifieds group Domain released on Thursday. … read more via hyperlink above
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July 28, 2018 9:52am
- wiseowl
  
  Hugh, there were 539,000 immigrants in to Australia in the last year.
  That is the biggest ever number of immigrants in one year.Maybe that is having an impact on housing in Australia?
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:49am
- KevOB
  
  Reading about NZ is more interesting.
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:38am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    3412.0 – Migration, Australia, 2016-17
    
    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3412.0/
    
    Wiseowl … about the 260k net figure … refer above.
    
    Consider high growth US metros such as Atlanta, Dallas Fort Worth, Houston etc … refer Demographia Housing Survey http://www.demographia.com .
    
    Normal functioning markets cope with growth … unless politicians and bureaucrats screw them up.
    
    The Business Insider article above is an essential read.
    
    Check out air travel and cruise industry growth as examples.
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:10pm
srylands

How can this possibly happen? Where are the voices of good men and women saying “No this is bullshit.”

http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=111080

“Victoria University of Wellington’s Council has today agreed in principle to simplify the University’s name to ‘University of Wellington’.

The University Council has made a draft decision to recommend that the Minister of Education approve University of Wellington as the new legal name for the University, as well as adopt a new Māori name of Te Herenga Waka.”
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July 28, 2018 9:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And how many places in the World are called Wellington?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_(disambiguation)#Places
  
  Geez, I’d rather be confused with having degrees from Victoria University , Melbourne.
  than University of Wellington, Tamil Nadu .
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:06am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Yes but but we can’t have a alt-left university named after a racist member of the patriarchy like …. um ….. Victoria … oh wait…. I’m being a terrible libtard aren’t I?
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:16am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Well thank goodness there’s no history taught at Victoria Uni…
      imagine if someone found out that Arthur Wellesley was a Tory PM.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:27am
      - stephieboy
        
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        MW, rather puerile points scoring on your part!
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:33am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No…
        
        1.The arguments against removing Victoria.….(confusion with other places…. as a cover…. for removing vestiges of our colonial past, apply equally for Wellington)
        
        2. I have employed irony to make my point.
        Vic Uni, Wellington has had an excellent History Department for much of its existence.
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:43am
      - itstricky
        
        confusion with other places…. as a cover…. for removing vestiges of our colonial past
        
        Do you, or any of the other posters really believe that?
        
        Because it clearly says:
        
        – It is for simplification
        – Victoria will continue to be used
        – It is open for consultation
        
        I haven’t considered all the marketing implications but I can’t see the problem with changing the name in principle. I can see why some people might be emotionally attached to the current name, but change is inevitable – except from a vending machine
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:49am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Why do you bother Maggie? It’s like wrestling with a pig…..
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:32am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Was that (irony of irony) the incredible puerile points-scorer-in-chief SB having the audacity to accuse someone else of that which he is guilty?
        
        That reminds me of some historic SJW figure somehow ……
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:44pm
    - holysheet
      
      While they are at it why not change the name from Wellington. All these socialists must live in embarrassment of have their city and uni named after that White man who thrashed that most socialist country France.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington#Waterloo_campaign
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:35am
      - stephieboy
        
        holycrap, no the Duke Of Wellington did not alone defeat Napoleon at Waterloo. The Prussian and other allies played crucial roles in the defeat.
        
        Field Marshal von Blucher tipped the balance decisively in the the allies favour ,
        
        http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/military-history/the-prussian-army-at-the-battle-of-waterloo/
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:37am
      - rangitoto
        
        Stephieboy, Field Marshal von Blucher was also a pale stale old white guy.
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:11am
      - chuk
        
        Silly stoooopidboy. You’ve “mistakenly” added the word “alone” in your rebuttal of holysheet. HS never suggested Wellington had no allies when defeating Napoleon.
        
        Why do you waste your time is such a manner?
        
        Is the mall closed?
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:30am
      - stephieboy
        
        chuk,
        
        “..after that White man who thrashed that most socialist country France.” ??
        
        Sigh?
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:08pm
      - MH
        
        and I always thought….it was Tommy this and Kipling that or as the Iron Duke said
        I don’t know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but by God, they frighten me.
        and
        Our army is composed of the scum of the earth – the mere scum of the earth.
        
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        July 28, 2018 4:43pm
- VicParking
  
  Just put Te Herenga Waka through a translator and got back “Motor Condition.” ????
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:55am
- KevOB
  
  Te Herenga Waka
  
  Maori for the sake of it. “The canoe hitching post”?
  What is the Minister of Education’s name?
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder why there was such a hit job on Matt Lauer last week and who was driving it.

Now we learn from DoC’s DG that Lauer has been open and encouraging about public access to the area.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018655561/doc-plans-to-meet-matt-lauer-in-person-over-easement-debate
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July 28, 2018 9:59am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  All I know is that Matt Lauer was fired by NBC for sexual misconduct charges and survived a good character test by the overseas commission,
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/362421/row-over-us-tv-personality-matt-lauer-s-land-he-s-holding-the-country-to-ransom
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:08am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Doesn’t seem to be a problem for the Labour party given how they hold Labour Youth Rape camps and corruptly use their power in government to cover up their crimes – oh wait, it OK if you are a socialist!
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:19am
    - doggone7
      
      Labour holding Youth Rape camps is unadulterated shit. You use the expression “ordinary, decent folk on KB.”
      
      Ordinary decent folk wouldn’t put up with such unadulterated shit. Other types would support it.
      
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      July 28, 2018 11:33pm
  - ross411
    
    All I know is that you’re a crazy weirdo who posts creepy comments all over this site, and fancies young girls. Search this site for references to how I know this. You piping up with an unhinged comment, is like a dog taking a crap on the footpath, it is the responsibility of your owners to make sure you’re taken care of and don’t stray from accepted norms.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:22am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      ross411, “fancies young girls” Untrue. and highly defamatory
      
      If only I had Sam Morgan’s wealth I would sue you into financial oblivion.
      
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      July 28, 2018 10:32am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Right back at you sucka (given some of the pure unadulterated shit you’ve accused the ordinary, decent folk on KB of over the years)
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:36am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        DP, like molesting or perving over young girls?
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:41am
      - holysheet
        
        Stephieboy on 3 December 2015:
        
        Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
        
        stephieboy
        Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
        Thumb up 7 Thumb down 36REPLY REPORTAUGUST 21, 2016 8:51AM’
        
        Wanker, the internet never forgets
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:45am
      - Swifty
        
        Judge would throw it out saying you have no reputation left to tarnish; you’ve already destroyed it, all on your own, with your creepy postings and behaviour on here.
        
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        July 28, 2018 10:49am
      - secondcumming
        
        You a *Lionel Ritchie* fan, stephie?
        
        Here’s a special request….. just for you 🙂
        
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiekzQaWAAgN_2t.jpg
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:20am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        You mean: “If only I had the intellect to even copy someone else’s idea and make money from it..”
        
        Also, defamation can’t be applied if the assertion in question is provable. The evidence above suggests that.
        
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        July 28, 2018 11:35am
    - Longknives
      
      “ross411, “fancies young girls” Untrue. and highly defamatory”
      
      Stephieboy you are fighting a losing battle here mate- Those creepy comments Holysheet posted are kinda incriminating!!
      How about you slither back to The Standard eh? Sexual Predators are accepted (as long as they are Labour Party members) over there…
      
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      July 28, 2018 12:43pm
- VicParking
  
  THey also said the Stations Telephone number was private so you could not ring them to get permission. Da its only in the phone book and on the farms web site.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:58am
igm

Congratulations to our former All Black captain and his lovely “wife” on announcement of the forthcoming birth of their first child.
Even media had a bit to say, which is strange, them being champions of unmarried, unemployable, and taxpayer supported providers of the illegitimate. Makes the “selected” PM look inferior.
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July 28, 2018 10:28am
- VicParking
  
  Looks like his fitness improved enough for him to get back from there run while she was still in the shower..
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:59am
- Longknives
  
  Jacinda will be mighty pissed at this Development.
  I hear rumours she is planning the mother of all Virtue Signalling exercises with her baby once she gets back..(Yep the predictable one we all know she is going to do)
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:45pm
DifferentPerspective

Greens lying about being “open and transparent” – well I never

The loons on the left are all glad-handling themselves for the paragons of openness and honesty being modelled by the Green ministers.

They’ve released their diaries. Except they haven’t!

They’ve released a table made up in what looks like MS Word listing one or two items per day. Even a moment’s thought will establish that this is at the very least a Pinochio-like version of the truth. Ministers’ offices live and die by their Minister’s diary – they are complicated things where the Minister’s existence is tidily sliced up into half hour slots from 7am to 10pm filled with on average 10-20 separate meetings, events, briefings every single day.

As usual the barking mad hypocrites on the Left are relying upon telling the biggest and fattest of lies. Again and again – the follow the advice of the great grand-daddy of all SJW liars – Goebbels when he noted the the bigger and more outrageous the lie, the less likely anyone will believe you have the audacity to tell it.

Well they’re certainly open and transparent about the audacity of their lies!
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July 28, 2018 10:34am
- Harkman
  
  Davidson completely shot herself in the foot this week. She’s dumber than first thought. Supermarket carry bags have to be used 173 times to make more sense than plastic bags.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:59am
holysheet

Question for Maggy
Mrs Holy was in the shower the other day. I stood there watching her and admiring her body.
She looked up and told me to stop perving at her.
Now, my question; is it considered perving if all one is doing is admiring ones wife’s beautiful body in all its glory?
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July 28, 2018 10:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @holysheet
  What religion are you?
  – That will determine if you can perve at your wife.
  
  Otherwise if you are a bigoted old atheist like me, then I reckon you’d better follow your wife’s edicts and leave her to shower and dress in peace…. and remember to shut the bloody door when you go to the Loo!
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:50am
  - holysheet
    
    “bigoted old atheist like me”
    Add “old white man” to that and you would be correct.
    We have a better class of home with an en suite. Bit hard to shut the door there.
    (for the likes of stooooopidboy, an en suite is a room next to the bedroom that usually has a toilet and shower)
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:55am
    - VicParking
      
      No that room has been converted into the goats waiting room ??
      
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      July 28, 2018 11:03am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Taser equiped? The poor goats must go bonkers when they hear the trip trap of the trolls feet in the hallway . . .
        
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        July 28, 2018 1:39pm
  - MH
    
    and the position of the seat ?
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:07pm
    - MH
      
      I was referring to the toilet seat, is it left down after male use.
      
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      July 29, 2018 10:54am
- RF
  
  Some times people do not understand the intense love we have for our wives.
  
  I like to run my hands all over my wife’s beautiful body plus have the occasional intimate fondle.
  
  It’s a pity that security at various major stores we visit do not agree and have banned us.
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:38pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Reminds me of the story of the deli worker who went to the shrink as he had an urgent desire to put his dick into the polony slicer at work. After many sessions, he eventually told the shrink he had done it. So what happened, asked the shocked shrink? Oh, we were both fired he replied, but she was worth it….
    
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    July 28, 2018 2:21pm
- MCos
  
  I would suggest your wife is the best person to answer that question and she gave you the thumbs down by the sounds.
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:51pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Was it only the two of you?…..
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:23pm
Fletch

More unintended consequences. Due to the Govt’s funding of healthcare for low income folks, we are running out of GPs and two week waits could become normal.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/two-week-gp-wait-times-stretched-result-shortage

As I said, liberals implement lots of feelgood schemes based on ideologies and without thinking of what the results will be.
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July 28, 2018 10:58am
- VicParking
  
  In Whanganui two weeks is normal unless its an emergency then its two days.
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:04am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Bet it’s easy to get an appointment in Nelson, Queenstown, Tauranga etc. Lack of Gps is caused by the shit-hole factor. From memory some really crappy places in NZ are having to pay locums 250k/yr
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:03pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    What doctor are you going to VP? I can normally get into mine within 24 hours, or on the same day if urgent.
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:05pm
- kowtow
  
  Dunedin , long wait for social housing for the natives.
  
  ‘Recently released data from the Ministry of Social Development shows 118 people or families in Dunedin waiting for government housing at the end of March, with 28 extra already in such housing waiting to be transferred to more suitable homes.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dunedin-housing-wait-worse-ever
  
  Thing is , this was on the front page of the ODT.
  
  The same paper that is now pimping the poor waiting for housing has been to the forefront of the “lets turn Dunedin into a Syrian ‘refugee’ housing Mecca”
  
  Sorry feel good lefties , you can’t have it both ways. In this world it’s them or us and as far as I’m concerned citizens come before non citizens. We can’t have a world without borders , we must have borders and we must look after our own first.
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:05pm
- MCos
  
  I’m obliged to go to the doctor every three months.
  Don’t need an appointment.
  Wait between 30 to 60 minutes. $18
  Most of the doctors are immigrants from four corners of the world.
  Very professional clinic from my experience.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:11pm
wiseowl

Seems The Liberal Government in Australia have been discussing a Global Compact on Immigration with the United Nations.
It appears this would give huge powers to the UN over immigration and in effect remove sovereignty .
The discussions have been exposed and questions are being asked of Dutton but I wonder if NZ has been involved in the same way and just what is going on.
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July 28, 2018 11:00am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  How would such a deal benefit Australia? What pressure could the UN bring to bear on Australia? Does the Liberal Government in Australia have a mandate to boost immigration from non-traditional-source countries (so-called ethnic replacement)?
  
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  July 28, 2018 11:37am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I am not arguing for or against ethnic replacement, only that the original population should have been informed of the effects of the government’s change in immigration policing to draw immigrants from totally new regions (and cultures). If the original population were happy with the idea of ethnic transformations of many of their suburbs, then by all means, bring it on.
    
    One could make the argument that a new hard-working, insular, self-funding, self-helping, highly competitive ethnic group will be “good for the country” but what to do when it out-competes the local population?
    
    It’s a conundrum. Competition is good, but it’s not much fun when you are on the losing side and you refuse to compete back.
    
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    July 28, 2018 11:52am
Keeping Stock

Good news coming out of National’s conference. Bridges has announced that, if elected in 2020, National will legislate for the reintroduction of partnership schools with 12 months of being re-elected.

https://twitter.com/simonjbridges/status/1022968559184433152
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July 28, 2018 11:52am
- Kabull
  
  But did you read the comments/responses? What an appalling collection of politically biased, inaccurate, leftist twaddle – like, charter schools only “work for rich parents who don’t care about their children’s education…” or “costing 20 x’s as much and if that money was given to public schools they could do better but yeah, now go away”
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:24pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Yes, I did. Sadly, the Labour Party still has an activist base who will defend it to the hilt, but then what would you expect as a consequence of fees-free tertiary education?
    
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    July 28, 2018 12:30pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Will they do anything to the stupid tax reforms like ring fencing negative gearing on housing?
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:17pm
- DigNap15
  
  Thats good but it should be 12 days! Not 12 months.
  National need to follow Labour’s example with a 100 day plan.
  And double down on everything Labour did.
  Eg Force 100 schools to become Charter schools.
  Make unions illegal
  Etc etc
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:30pm
Southern Raider

So Little and Labour would want to let this scum back into the community early.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/105830144/evil-predator-gets-openended-jail-term
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July 28, 2018 11:55am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Justice Gendall said he believed a finite jail term would not adequately protect society and preventive detention must be imposed.
  
  A sentence of preventive detention means that this bloke may never be released. That can only be a good thing.
  
  He’s been given a minimum of eight years non-parole, but it is highly unlikely the Parole Board would release him on first application given his history of offending.
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:04pm
- Longknives
  
  What’s a bit of ‘Collateral Damage’ eh??
  Stop being Heartless, Evil Right Wingers and give the poor guy a Seventy-Third chance!!
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  Southern Raider, wow Luke Henry is ,
  
  ! A Paleface
  
  2 I can confidently say not Moozlem!
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:13pm
- calendar girl
  
  Don’t know of any bloke who looks that bad at 33 years of age!
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:23pm
sooty

“Baby Killer Klark”, maybe going to run for Mayor! Phool Goof runs overseas to consider his future!
Klark is on NZ superannuation, Pension from parliament UN pension, various perks, top ups, free travel, limo etc. Come on “Killer” run for Mayor, you know that you want it, just a little bit more money to buy some more rentals.
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July 28, 2018 12:11pm
- Harkman
  
  See this just proves that you can’t kill wicked witches.
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:18pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I will pay for a ducking stool in the Viaduct to include the resource application, the environment court appeal and health & safety plan, if I am allowed to try it out on Clark followed by Goff, who is a bit of a silly old bunt
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:48pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I wonder if Penny Bright will run against Aunty Helen…
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:30pm
  - stephieboy
    
    KS, why not you put your name in the ring?
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:11pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Because
      
      1) I don’t live in Auckland, and
      2) I have no wish to live in Auckland, and
      3) Trying to clean up the mess left by Goff and Brown would not be good for my mental health 😀
      
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      July 28, 2018 1:57pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    If it was Helen or Penny, i would choose Penny because I could stop paying rates
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:50pm
Captain Mainwaring

Well done CoL, job done in double-quick time.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12097020

Pity that this is going to take years to turn around.
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July 28, 2018 12:31pm
- Longknives
  
  That is quite staggering!
  Why isn’t NZ Media screaming about this? It should be headline news for Christ’s sake!
  And why aren’t National savaging the Government for this? Does nobody even care anymore?..
  
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  July 28, 2018 12:46pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    And why aren’t National savaging the Government for this?
    
    They are. It’s all over social media, which is the only thing National can control. It was also a focus of Amy Adams’ speech to the conference this morning, not that the media is likely to report it in any detail.
    
    https://twitter.com/NZNationalParty/status/1022970167058345984
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:59pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The downticker must be one of our resident Venezuela-lovers.
  Any guesses who it is?
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:03pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Whoever has been rostered on by Frazzled House
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:54pm
duggledog

Keeping Stock

Good news out of National’s conference whatever.

Bridges’ problem isn’t himself, I am growing to like him. His problem is the fact that National Party supporters like myself support the party reluctantly, not enthusiastically.

It’s a hell of a challenge for him because Nat supporters who don’t know or care to understand the machinations and mystery of how it all works at local and international levels, just wanted their frigging tax cuts and possibly an end to the Maori gravy train and a few other small, standard, Right Wing causes.

I live in a high income area where a lot of people support the Nats, own businesses etc, they think National did well with the economy but failed to address the social wreckage that gets worse incrementally year on year.
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July 28, 2018 12:45pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Given that Labour encourage more social wreckage by putting petrol on the fire I’d rather have National’s version of social wreckage thanks.
  Some people unfortunately can’t help themselves whatever help they are given.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:49pm
- ztev
  
  national is just a vertically integrated fund raising- poll driven organisation.
  You lot are there just as decoration, especially as they know your fringe policies wouldn’t be adopted.
  
  Goldsmith is calling for harsher penalties for synthetic drugs…. hello Amy Adams Minister of Justice for at least 6 years, what was the problem about doing then.
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:57pm
Morrissey

DATELINE: July 1942
Warsaw, Poland

An internal investigation has cleared all Einsatzgruppen units of any wrong-doing in the Occupied Territories….

https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-army-self-investigates-no-violations-during-gaza-border-protests/
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July 28, 2018 1:46pm
- Morrissey
  
  Couple of Nazis have registered their disgusting presence with us. Geh zur Hölle, du Abschaum.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:21pm
- Southern Raider
  
  I’ve just reported you fuckwit
  
  That’s an absolutely disgraceful comparison to make and you obviously are a holocaust denier with no comprehension of the horrors those deaths squads spread across Eastern Europe
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:33pm
  - Morrissey
    
    The comparison of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinian people to the oppression of Jews in Europe in the 1930s and ’40s is often made by Israeli people of conscience, and even by Israeli politicians, including Moshe Dayan and David Ben Gurion himself. The hardline Israeli politician Yosef “Tommy” Lapid made the same point….
    
    Lapid said in a weekly commentary on Israel Radio in early 2007, after airing of video footage showing a Palestinian woman being viciously verbally attacked through the iron bars on the veranda of her downtown Hebron home by a neighboring Israeli woman settler – who among other things called the Palestinian woman a sharmuta (“whore”), that what was happening in Hebron reminded him of persecution endured by Jews in his native Yugoslavia on the eve of World War Two. “It was not crematoria or pogroms that made our life in the diaspora bitter before they began to kill us, but persecution, harassment, stone-throwing, damage to livelihood, intimidation, spitting and scorn,” Lapid said in his radio commentary.
    
    https://palestine-mandate.com/tag/tommy-lapid
    
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    July 28, 2018 4:08pm
Morrissey

GROPERS
No. 37: Hugh Hefner’s disgusting guests

…. During the mid-1980s, a photographer pal sneaked me into the Playboy mansion to watch a photo shoot. I was like an undercover under-the-covers agent. Topless bimbettes lazed in the sun around the pool like bored pedigree cats. I watched, agog, while drooling, beer-bellied businessmen volunteered to rub in their suntan lotion. ….

But for all its glamorous mystique, the mansion was really nothing more than a tawdry meat market. The bunnies seemed to spend their days as half naked ornaments, being ogled by sexually famished midwest businessmen and spent their nights as human handbags, draped over visiting executives.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/playboy-hugh-hefners-fantasyland-for-the-drooling-businessman/news-story/a2cdab560801988eb86e07f0a57cf1dc

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hugh-hefner-marilyn-monroe-buried-next-to-grave-playboy-naked-pictures-death-a7974011.html

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon; 30 Rob Porter; 31 The old buffers at Russell McVeagh; 32 Otago law students; 33 Tom Brokaw; 34 David Scott; 35 Justin Trudeau; 36 Morgan Freeman
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July 28, 2018 1:51pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Fuck off somewhere else but just fuck off with your innane drivel
  
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  July 28, 2018 1:56pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Fuck off somewhere else but just fuck off with your innane [sic] drivel
    
    Are you talking to “The Hef” and his appalling buddies or to this writer, i.e., moi?
    
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    July 28, 2018 1:58pm
- Longknives
  
  Is that the same Hugh Hefner who was the lifelong Philanthropist?and who voted Democrat and was an ardent supporter of Gay Marriage?
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:13pm
  - Morrissey
    
    He was a “lifelong philanthropist” was he? What we do know for certain is that he was a lifelong misogynist.
    
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    July 28, 2018 2:19pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Fuck someone is jealous, probably never had a naked lady draped over them ever. Oh and fleas don’t count.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:14pm
  - Morrissey
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blpe_sGnnP4
    
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    July 28, 2018 2:22pm
    - sooty
      
      When are you going to name the pervert at Labours camp?
      
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      July 28, 2018 4:01pm
- softail 1450
  
  Moronissey , you forgot septicboy and the twenty year old labour party supporter that fiddled with young men and women at a labour party pissup…..
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:47pm
rightoverlabour

Hmm is the end of the world nigh?. Stuff has a pro Trump article.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/105772582/what-the-trump-potuss-kiwi-supporters-speak-up
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July 28, 2018 2:11pm
- Morrissey
  
  The end of the world is not imminent, but if what you say is correct, then it’s certainly the end of any credibility that Stuff might have possessed.
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:23pm
  - holysheet
    
    You and Stuff have less credibility than stooopidboys goat. At least the goat has the excuse of not knowing any better…..
    
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    July 28, 2018 3:06pm
    - Morrissey
      
      What about that dead pig that Deadbeat Dad* David Cameron had “relations” with in front of his Etonian mates?
      
      * No. 5 in our series.
      
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      July 28, 2018 5:15pm
Jack5

Auckland’s diversity dividends keep coming …

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12062629
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July 28, 2018 2:19pm
- Southern Raider
  
  How does he have post traumatic stress disorder. He comes from the Muslim paradise of Iran. Gloriz tells us nothing bad happens there
  
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  July 28, 2018 2:37pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Thank goodness he is to be deported at the end of his sentence.
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:16pm
- niggly
  
  “Bananfard will be deported at the conclusion of his sentence.”
  
  Thank goodness – from reading the article, this aggressive idiot does not subscribe to Kiwi values.
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:17pm
Manolo

The peccadillos of another Hillary Clinton supporter:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/06/les-moonves-and-cbs-face-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct

In recent months, Moonves has become a prominent voice in Hollywood’s #MeToo movement. In December, he helped found the Commission on Eliminating Sexual Harassment and Advancing Equality in the Workplace, which is chaired by Anita Hill. “It’s a watershed moment,” Moonves said at a conference in November. “I think it’s important that a company’s culture will not allow for this. And that’s the thing that’s far-reaching. There’s a lot we’re learning. There’s a lot we didn’t know.”

But Moonves’s private actions belie his public statements. Six women who had professional dealings with him told me that, between the nineteen-eighties and the late aughts, Moonves sexually harassed them. Four described forcible touching or kissing during business meetings, in what they said appeared to be a practiced routine. Two told me that Moonves physically intimidated them or threatened to derail their careers.
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July 28, 2018 2:25pm
- holysheet
  
  Lefties got to do what lefties love to do.
  What’s happened to the Liabore sex camp investigation?
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:08pm
- Morrissey
  
  Thanks Manolo. This creep, who used to occasionally appear on David Letterman’s show, has been in our sights for some time now. Your little reminder has resulted in him being inserted into our series. Keep the old peepers peeled, pal!
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:04pm
rightoverlabour

oops – Now I don’t particularly dislike Obama, but seriously?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/27/obama-administration-approved-200g-grant-to-group-with-al-qaeda-ties.html

and another Fake News lefty perv

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/07/27/les-moonves-top-cbs-exec-accused-sexual-misconduct-in-bombshell-report.html

And Trump is doing so badly on the economic front
Fuckers – Weep in your Lefty Loonacy

Pity we have our COL and not Trump.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/27/newt-gingrich-trump-s-gdp-achieves-mission-impossible-and-shocks-his-critics.html
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July 28, 2018 2:32pm
DigNap15

I’d like to hear what Grant Robertson, David Parker and Lees-Galloway say about that article on our businesses considence falling from 2nd top to 2nd bottom in just 9 months!
Just wait till that translates to GDP falling.
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July 28, 2018 2:35pm
Captain Mainwaring

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12097036

He’s from the Middle East.
Well I never.
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July 28, 2018 3:04pm
- sooty
  
  Can’t you tell a sexual emergence, when you see one.
  
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  July 28, 2018 3:57pm
Don the Kiwi

Well I never – a bunch of socialists running out of other peoples money:-

“UNITED NATIONS – United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says the U.N. is running out of money and is urging members to pay up amid a looming financial crisis for the international body.
In a letter to staff this week, seen by Fox News, Guterres says he has warned member states of a “troubling financial situation facing the United Nations,” which he says is caused by late payments to the U.N. by member states.
“Our cash flow has never been this low so early in the calendar year, and the broader trend is also concerning; we are running out of cash sooner and staying in the red longer,” he says.

‘Our cash flow has never been this low so early in the calendar year.’

– U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres
Guterres went on to say that the organization will be taking measures to look at reducing costs, in a way that won’t affect their mission. He said he also will be proposing to states various steps to strengthen financial stability at the U.N.

Trump administration threats to cut funding do not appear to be directly linked to the cash crunch.

While the administration has been eyeing carefully its payments to various U.N. funds and agencies, the U.S. has not yet reduced or delayed its payments to the budget, though due to the fall start of the U.S. fiscal year, payments usually come later in the year.
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July 28, 2018 3:42pm
- softail 1450
  
  Don the kiwi, the UN is filled with people that are wanting the rich mainly white countries to give them billions of dollars while at the same time blaming those same white folk for causing the problems that they need that money for,fuck them i say and i hope Trump withdraws all US monies from that organisation.
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:55pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Those helpless put upon white people. Who will save them?
    
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    July 28, 2018 6:03pm
    - realityczech
      
      milky, so you are opposed to ethnic indigenous first nation tangata whenua peoples protecting their land and culture?
      
      Or does that right only apply to the muds?
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I sometimes wonder whether it is worth answering you seriously, Kea. But here goes: no, and no.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        How about indigenous Germanic, Nordic and Slavic peoples ?
        
        They are the ones losing their identity. You don’t see to care 🙁
        
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        July 28, 2018 8:33pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Trump is doing a good job. We just need more leaders like Trump.
      
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      July 28, 2018 8:30pm
      - starboard
        
        Die UN, die.
        
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        July 28, 2018 9:41pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Well the UN organisation giving out aid in Palestine is sacking most of its staff as they have run out of money after Trump cut them off 6 months ago.
    Good job.
    Make teach them to stop breeding like locusts, theyv’e gone from 1 million to 7 million in 50 years with no country, no jobs, no economy just handouts from the USA and the EU.
    Funny that the rich arab countries don’t seem to help them much.
    Time to pull out of all the UN, and let them rot.
    
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    July 28, 2018 6:49pm
    - realityczech
      
      “with no country,” – “handouts from the USA”
      
      I seem to recall another group of Semitic “locusts” with the same “no country” issue.
      
      WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States will give Israel $38 billion
      
      Shall we “let them rot.” ?
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:56pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Most Arabs hate the Palestinians. Won’t allow them to settle in their countries, only support them cos they hate Jews more. At End of gulf war 1 Kuwait ethnically cleansed themselves of Palestinians: told them all to get the fuck out, and shot a whole lot to underline their request. Went from 400k pre-war to almost none post-war.
      
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      July 28, 2018 8:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        So they are Semitic, no country, and victims of genocide?
        
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        July 28, 2018 9:54pm
MH

IF someone were to do a voice face unseen of the vocality needed to become a leader I’m sure Bridges would be down there with Bill Rowling and phil Goff. It’s a boys voice about to drop. He has a young man’s face as well. The image is the message.
I’m still disappointed English gave up too soon. he had the voice and was just beginning to develop it. Sorry folks but he’s doomed. Politicians just don’t get what the fickle public pick up on. Deny all you want but he’s doomed.
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July 28, 2018 4:21pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Isn’t there always an interim leader (or two) after a party loses power?
  
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  July 28, 2018 4:49pm
Morrissey

You compare, you decide: suffering Israeli in border town versus Gaza’s children

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/07/26/you-compare-you-decide-suffering-israeli-in-border-town-versus-gazas-children/
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July 28, 2018 4:28pm
- Southern Raider
  
  How about the silence from the Greens in regards to
  – large areas of land burnt through use of fire kites?
  – falcons used to carry incendiary devices?
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:03pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You. Are. An. Ignoramus.
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    Zionist Raider, perhaps you should write to Mr Finkelstein and ask him yourself.
    
    Don’t forget to call him a Nazi/anti Semite like you usually do. Most Jewish kids of holocaust survivors love that one. It never gets old.
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:25pm
- Longknives
  
  Go Israel!!!
  
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  July 28, 2018 7:08pm
Morrissey

Dutch citizens condemn the brutality and stupidity of the Bible

Some Dutch people were approached and asked to listen to some passages from the Koran. After being read out some particularly violent and bloodthirsty passages, they expressed some contemptuous opinions about the simpletons who believe in such a vile religion….

“If you’ve been raised with this book and these kinds of thoughts it’s going to influence the way you think.”

“The world is changing and I think they should have to adapt to it.”

“How could anyone believe in this?! That’s unbelievable to me.”

Trouble is, the passage actually came not from the Koran but from the Bible….

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/what-happens-when-you-read-people-the-bible-and-tell-them-its-the-koran-exactly-what-you-expect–WkbZzP1Jv9e
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July 28, 2018 5:01pm
- realityczech
  
  It is like shooting fish in a barrel that one. Same deal if you get a story about Jewish extremists and change it to Muslims.
  
  Double standards are no standards at all. Seems anything goes when it comes to the disease of religion.
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:04pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”a story about Jewish extremists and change it to Muslims”…..
    
    Or a tale about Islamic violence but substitute the insane Yank religious fundamentalists bombing family planning clinics.
    
    Religion of any stripe or flavour reduces thinking people to idiots.
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:12pm
    - realityczech
      
      Yes. Same with politics or any tribal group. See the outrage of those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome when presented with Obama policies, thinking Trump made them.
      
      People as individuals are normally reasonable civilised to each other. Infect them with group think and they can easily turn rather evil. The most effective way is religion.
      
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      July 28, 2018 5:20pm
- softail 1450
  
  morrissey, yeah but who would you rather have as a neighbor, Jesus the forgiving loving teacher or the murdering rapist pedophile Mohammed ?
  Of course the bible and Koran are fantasy books that any sane person couldn’t believe unless they were severely drugged or pissed .
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:38pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    As they are ‘fantasy books’, your question is as relevant as asking him whether he would prefer Superman or Batman as a neighbour.
    
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    July 28, 2018 5:50pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Superman! ?
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:02pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Failing that, waikatogirl, perhaps you’d just like to slip around to Chez Breen some time?
        
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        July 29, 2018 8:46am
    - softail 1450
      
      mikeandmadagain, fucking moron, my question makes perfect sense ,both of those two people actually lived unlike the two fantasy heroes your crack smoking deviant mind has added to the conversation…
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:07pm
      - realityczech
        
        “both of those two people actually lived ”
        
        Based on mythical fantasy stories?
        
        The people who were there at the time described Jesus as a trouble making homosexual Jew who tinkered in witchcraft and was born of an unmarried whore.
        
        Of course in reality he never existed.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:11pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You were the one who described both holy texts as ‘fantasy books’.
        Even if Jesus and Mohammed were real persons (doubtful and likely, respectfully), their supposed examples and teachings have inspired many millions of humans to great good and to great evil.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:16pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Saw an interesting piece by late-great Hitchens, saying that while evidence for historicality of Jesus is almost zero, the fact that they fabricated the story of the Nativity (embellished with a whole lot of details about a census that are proven lies) to make him fit into Jewish messiah prophecy (need to be of house of David = from Bethlehem, a bit of a problem if you are not, and there is no record of Nazareth even existing at supposed time of Jesus’s birth) makes it somewhat more likely that there was actually a real Jesus who’s backstory wasn’t quite what was needed to get Jewish bums on pews.
        
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        July 28, 2018 8:36pm
    - starboard
      
      Sorry, I up ticked you Mikenmong.
      
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      July 28, 2018 9:52pm
  - realityczech
    
    “Jesus the forgiving loving teacher”
    
    Jesus said all of the hideous laws in the old testament still apply and introduced eternal torture in hell.
    
    This includes killing an entire town if one person worships another god, and killing a non virgin bride by stoning her to death on her fathers doorstep. You sick fuck.
    
    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17 )
    
    “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.” (2 Peter 20-21 )
    
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    July 28, 2018 6:03pm
    - softail 1450
      
      Realityczech, how long did it take you to google that R C, you are just to fucking smart for me old son,if you are referring to me as a “sick fuck”for that post about Jesus you are in need of serious psychological help or are you just liquored up ?
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:16pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        It’s just the normal Kea setting pointing out your hypocrisy in preferring one set of religious fanatics over another.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        milky, I clearly think all religions suck. Try harder dimwit. You are not putting the same effort into your trolling recently.
        
        softy, I don’t drink and I also don’t think wine turns into blood you gibbering loon.
        
        Kill rape victims:
        
        Deuteronomy 22:23-24
        
        If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:24pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jesus Christ was a genderfluid drag king who had sex with men.
        
        The professor also suggests that Jesus had a gay lover in the form of a Roman centurion, and that he had homosexual desires about God while on the crucifix.
        
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        July 28, 2018 6:30pm
      - Longknives
        
        The funny thing is that Christians-well the majority of them- are nice ordinary people who won’t bat an eyelid over ‘Jesus is Gay’ wind ups..(Or Virgins in a Condom etc etc)
        
        Try suggesting a certain other God (from the self-professed ‘Peaceful Religion’) was a ‘Genderfluid Drag Queen’ or whatever and see what happens…
        There will be Blood!!!
        
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        July 28, 2018 7:07pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I don’t think softy is going to play along, Kea.
        
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        July 28, 2018 7:10pm
      - realityczech
        
        Longknives, except my comment was aimed at a Christian ranting about homos all over this thread.
        
        So you attack Muslims to show your tolerance…See how weird people get with the brain disease of religion?
        
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        July 28, 2018 7:15pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Longknives needs to meet Jesus and Mo:
        http://www.jesusandmo.net/
        
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        July 28, 2018 7:21pm
      - stigie
        
        *Hic*
        
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        July 28, 2018 7:29pm
- Jack5
  
  The Independent is part-owned by Evgeny Lebedev, son of a Russian Jew who worked for the KGB and became a billionaire oligarch. Evgeny Levedev owns the newspaper in partnership with his oligarch father.
  
  Evgeny Lebedev was raised in Britain from the age of eight and went to an Anglican primary school.
  
  Evgeny Lebedev has dual British-Russian citizenship – an interesting, intelligent fellow. It’s not only news he has a nose for. He has a collection of 500 scented oils in his office.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/mar/14/evgeny-lebedev-russia-not-homophobic-country
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:56pm
mikenmildagain

On to more serious issues, campers. What did you do to celebrate World Hepatitis Day?
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July 28, 2018 5:32pm
- realityczech
  
  I bashed a homo milky. A black one.
  
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  July 28, 2018 6:19pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Bashed one out while watching a homo video, more likely.
    
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    July 28, 2018 6:27pm
  - softail 1450
    
    R C ,you’d be a keyboard warrior aye R C? i’m betting you have never been in a good bashing in your entire fucking life, you sit there at your keyboard with one hand on your little cock while bashing away with your other about your heroic toughness ,fuck off dreamer and get off the liquor.
    
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    July 28, 2018 6:30pm
    - realityczech
      
      That’s not very Christian softy !
      
      ✞“Jesus’ statement that ‘I in them [his followers] and you [the Father] in me’ turns out to be quite a description,” he notes. “What we find in John is a Jesus who longs to be ‘had’ by the Father”.
      
      “Things do not get less queer as one gets to the other parts of John’s Gospel. It is noticeable that throughout the Gospel Jesus and his Father form a “mutual glorification society”. This constant elevation or stroking is nothing less than an exciting of the penis, or better yet, phallus,” he adds. ✞
      
      https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/30/jesus-was-a-gay-genderfluid-drag-king-says-college-professor/
      
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      July 28, 2018 6:33pm
      - softail 1450
        
        R C if you are referring to me as a christian you are more pissed than i thought.
        
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        July 28, 2018 8:23pm
      - realityczech
        
        softy, I was just sharing some yarns about your imaginary gay sadist mate Jeeeeeesus.
        
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        July 28, 2018 8:30pm
nasska

This old bloke goes into an old folks’ home because he keeps falling over and his son can’t keep his eye on him all the time.

On his first day in the home, a female nurse comes along to give him a wash and she notices he has a slight erection. With that, she gives him a blow job. He gets straight on the phone to his son, telling him that he just got a gobble and what a wonderful place it was.

The following, day he’s walking down a corridor and he falls over – suddenly, from behind, a male nurse gives him one up the arse. He gets straight on the phone to his son again and says “get me out of here, a male nurse just banged me up the arse.

His son says, “look, dad, so you took one up the arse – you got a blow job yesterday, you have to take the rough with the smooth.”

The old bloke says, “fuck off, I get a hard on three times a year but I fall over three times a fucking day!”
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July 28, 2018 6:16pm
DigNap15

Some really nice people shopping and fighting in our malls in Auckland.
They all seem to be from one ethnic group!
Who let them in?
Oh that right it was Lange!
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July 28, 2018 6:51pm
- realityczech
  
  “one ethnic group!”
  
  Oh we just need more diversity then 🙂
  
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  July 28, 2018 7:01pm
Swifty

Anyone heard from Kimbo?
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July 28, 2018 7:39pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Yeah Swifty.
  I was thinking that the other day. I certainly hope his cancer has not laid him low. Rather miss his erudite comments, even if I don’t agree with some of them
  He strikes me as as good straight up bloke.
  
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  July 28, 2018 7:55pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, while confused on certain matters 🙂 he is a great contributor here.
    
    I do hope he is ok.
    
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    July 28, 2018 7:58pm
- Longknives
  
  I certainly didn’t agree with Kimbo an everything- But he is without a doubt a a Gentleman and a Scholar..
  Wherever you are Kimbo- I wish you all the best old gun!
  
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  July 28, 2018 8:06pm
  - Jack5
    
    Yep, all the best, Kimbo.
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:42pm
Happychappy

Winston starting to panic and send mixed messages to his old age followers by saying the Three Strikes Law doesn’t work anymore and then follow that up by trying to belittle David Garrett three criminal charges with the establishment. Peters is now changing policy like he changes his underpants and must have people wondering whether bad poll result are getting in the way of his judgement with some of his latest press releases. Simon Bridges has finally got into the act with some good smart comments on Winston at the National Party Conference and the coming week should be interesting with National about to push Peters to the limit.
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July 28, 2018 7:52pm
- niggly
  
  National just need to rule out working with NZ First again and say so now, and all the way to the next election.
  
  Bonus: That will get Winston wound up and even more toxic!
  
  Serves him right – he can’t be trusted and even if he could, the allure of baubles will cloud any common sense thinking!
  
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  July 28, 2018 8:01pm
- Jack5
  
  This matches statements by NZ First’s justice spokesman.
  
  If Peters changes direction on Little’s campaign to end Three Strikes, NZ First is dead, and let’s hope it takes the coalition with it to the political grave.
  
  But maybe it’s a chance for National to win a majority on its own on a law-and-order stand unique among choices for the voter.
  
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  July 28, 2018 10:35pm
  - Jack5
    
    Here’s the link to Peters swapping sides on law and order – bloody con man:
    
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/07/three-strikes-doesn-t-work-winston-peters.html
    
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    July 28, 2018 10:59pm
Niz

Winston Peters might be interested in this list of “second strikers” that DPF has helpfully compiled.
He could cite these people as examples when he tells us all that the 3 strikes law isn’t working.
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July 28, 2018 7:59pm
Jack5

A huge no-go area to the authorities in Paris highlights the extent of the illegal immigrant problem.

Is this going to climax with an authoritarian government sending in the Foreign Legion to expel these folk?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6001135/A-devastating-report-reveals-300-000-illegal-migrants-living-one-French-suburb.html

Meanwhile, Australia refused to sign up to UN control of its immigration:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/25/dutton-says-australia-wont-surrender-our-sovereignty-by-signing-un-migration-deal
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July 28, 2018 10:33pm
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  Great to see Aussie standing up to the UN.
  They are a pack of sickly white left leaning liberals.
  
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  July 29, 2018 7:53am
DigNap15

Of course its working.
Winston says there are 116 on their second strike.
I cant wait till our weak judges give some of these guys their third strike.
Then the policy will really hit home.
And I don’t want those 116 thugs walking around our streets like time bombs
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The Three strikes law would work even better if judges would not keep finding ways to use the “Manifestly unfair clause”

If National get back in I’d like them to remove that clause.
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July 29, 2018 7:55am
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  They should have done that when some poor bugger got a 3rd strike for touching some dyke screws arse in prison.
  
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