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General Debate 27 July 2018

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Paulus Gnome

This exchange between Valerie Morse and Stephen Franks is worth a listen, assuming you did not hear it.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018655443

Morse tells us that ‘tanga te whenua, people of colour, muslims . . . ‘ Morse has implied that it is the ‘people of colour’ v’s people not of colour, us whitey boys. Is this racist?

Morse goes on to accuse Southern of sailing out into the Med to gun down refugees (something like that). Sounds like Morse is defaming Southern.

Espiner allows Stephen Franks ‘final’ word to be interrupted by shouty spitty Morse; the way the altleft shut down all debate, shouty and abusive.

Anyone else in for a hundy to finish Morse and her filth of a sham organisation?
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July 27, 2018 9:05am
- 4077th
  
  The SIS should be keeping a very close eye on this woman. She is a terrorist in waiting.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:09am
  - kevn
    
    4077th…. She sounded like another import as well. Bit hard to say for sure with all the shouty.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:12am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Born in Takapuna, educated in the US as i understand it.
      A poisonous creature.
      She was one of the people running around in the Urewera’s with Tama Iti and his band of brothers.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:23am
      - oldpark
        
        @aM
        Also burnt the New Zealand Flag at an Anzac Day Ceremony. She is a nasty piece of shit. Also think she got deported from USA for damaging an Aircraft at an American Airforce base. What next massive personal violence on free speech speakers.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:39am
      - sooty
        
        Went to the Med to see off the Israeli navy as well.
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:43am
      - Woz
        
        Aha! I wondered why the name was bothering me. That tells me all I need to know. What a disgraceful, aggressive, lie-filled tirade she spouted today.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:04am
      - RF
        
        oldpark.
        
        Bingo. I knew I had heard about the criminal years ago. I seem to remember there was also a law student involved in the aircraft incident.
        
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        July 27, 2018 2:57pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Let it slip to the MM that she is brewing meth on their patch, save us the expense of the SIS
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:14am
  - Longknives
    
    I think considering that Jacinda ‘Comrades,Comrades’ Ardern is our Minister of National Security you have a rather slim chance of any action being taken against any of her Left Wing Activist mates..
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:16am
    - 4077th
      
      Morse is not just left wing she is a dangerous risk to New Zealand. Her views are very extreme as noted in the “interview” posted by Paulus. She lied about Southern when she said “Southern is going on boats to go and shoot at medical rescue boats” this is exactly the type of lie that would incite violence. She has the ear of the council, the Prime Minister and likely most if not all the Green Party. Having now given this extremist a platform and backing, what does she have up her sleeve next? I implore the New Zealand SIS to look into this woman far more closely. The Police failed to nail her properly in the Urawera raids, it’s about time she was put under more scrutiny. The festering underclass the she is fomenting will have been emboldened by her latest stunt. Act now or deal with flying ball bearings at public gatherings.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:27am
      - waikatogirl
        
        “She lied about Southern when she said “Southern is going on boats to go and shoot at medical rescue boats” this is exactly the type of lie that would incite violence.”
        
        Southern worked with the Italian and Greek govts to provide proof that charities and people smugglers were working together to ship so-called refugees, that were actually economic refugees, into the west. The Italian and Greek govts have since closed their boarders after being overrun.
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:12am
    - igm
      
      Crockery, along with Hager and Manning, make our security service a joke
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:45am
      - 4077th
        
        Manning apparently coming to a council venue near you soon. I would have thought INZ would be looking closely at the treasonous trannie’s convictions. Sentenced to 35 years in prison, Obumma gave him/her 7. Fraud, Theft, Espionage.. Surely these convictions fail the good character test? If not WTF do you have to do to be denied a visa? Oh wait, I know, be a conservative..
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:09am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Steady there 4077
        igm may have been referring to Deborah Manning, lawyer of NZ who (afaik) was born female and continues to be so.
        You are thinking of Chelsea Manning of USA.
        Different activist.
        
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        July 27, 2018 6:47pm
  - artemisia
    
    Going by her OIA requests the IDF will also be watching. And King Saul Boulevard.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:59am
    - 4077th
      
      MOSSAD don’t fuck around. I wouldn’t want to attract their unwanted attention.
      
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      July 27, 2018 10:13am
      - igm
        
        Hope they don’t let up on this arsehole.
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:29pm
  - Philview
    
    She is probably part of that new SIS oversight committee. Sounds like she has the right background.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:26am
    - 4077th
      
      Yes, make sure the terrorists don’t get hurty feelings!
      
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      July 27, 2018 10:45am
- realityczech
  
  What colour is Muslim?
  
  I love her opening line: Talking about IQ is denying peoples right to exist! LOL 🙂
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:16am
  - KevOB
    
    Intelligence is in the application of reason of reason to circumstances–Morse applies rant instead.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:33am
  - dime
    
    lmao
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:36am
- niggly
  
  Hilarious when Franks told Morse “we’re not interested in what you think” (as it clearly went over Morse’s thick head that freedom of speech means hearing other’s points of view – not Morse’s repetitive views on shutting down discussion so that only her views are allowed etc)!
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:17am
- kowtow
  
  Morse can .._. .._ _._. _._ _ _ _ .._. .._.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:22am
  - 4077th
    
    Clever… 100 upticks for you ??
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:29am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      How ironic ?
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:52am
- Longknives
  
  I just listened to it.
  Morse is screeching that Southern must be stopped because she “incites violence”.
  Interesting that Morse was one of the Urewera 17.
  A paramilitary training camp where they were planning to blow up dams, kill the Prime Minister etc etc
  
  This is beyond Hypocrisy..
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:24am
  - Philview
    
    Careful!! It was a bunch of mates having a laugh and doing some team building but with guns and semtex.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:31am
- niggly
  
  Anyway, so Valerie Morse demands freedom of speech in the form of her being allowed to burn NZ Flags at ANZAC Day cenotaphs, and even to play “toy-revolutionaries” herself by running around the Ureweras with guns with her activist comrades ….. things that everyday NZ’ers find reprehensible.
  
  But oh no (according to Morse) we CANNOT and MUST NOT have two people visiting NZ and talking about current issues that, which whether one agrees with them or not, are issues that are at the forefront of unprecedented societal change.
  
  Valerie Morse – typical fucking “alt-left” hypocrite and authoritarian fascist!
  
  (Bet she secretly would like to put her Urewera training into practice if only she could, and purge her utopian society of those “dissenters” i.e. middle-NZers, that don’t agree with her and her stinking ilk)!
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:26am
  - KevOB
    
    She should become a green list MP then the Sgt at Arms could eject her from the House.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:37am
    - 4077th
      
      She has all the “qualifications” for that job Kev. Thankfully, because she has firearms convictions amongst others she is ineligible to become an MP.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:44am
  - starboard
    
    Morse is as filthy, demented and racist as Hanna Jackson and Margaret Mutu. Same acidic mould.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:10am
    - 4077th
      
      I’d add, Marama Davidson and that stupid little girl who tried having Bob Jones’ knighthood removed.
      
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      July 27, 2018 10:15am
- stephieboy
  
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  “filth of a sham organisation”
  
  Commie infiltration for October Revolution 2018?
  
  LOL
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:33am
  - dime
    
    “southern inciting violence”
    
    LOL
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:39am
- Inandout
  
  This women is a serial requester, and obviously has funding, but who?
  https://fyi.org.nz/user/valerie_morse
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:34am
  - KevOB
    
    Is she paid through Soros?
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:38am
    - Inandout
      
      A possibility, and that radio exchange has some material for a lawsuit, so we can expect Stephen to use his legal guns against this poisonous woman.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:46am
      - KevOB
        
        Some bullies are best taken out privately. Don’t let a toxic snake know you are about to pounce nor its mates.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:42am
    - igm
      
      Kev: Possibly, but more likely Clinton Foundation.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:47am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Great find Inandout. It’s interesting to get an insight into what’s going through the mind of someone like Morse. I wonder, for example, why she would want to know about trespass notices issued by Auckland Council…
    
    https://fyi.org.nz/request/6024/response/20707/attach/html/2/8140001641%20Response%20Letter.pdf.html
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:17am
    - graham
      
      A lot of OIA requests to NZ Defence, and a brief look through them seems to indicate she is just digging furiously, hoping to find something she can use.
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:00pm
  - Batman
    
    You clearly don’t spend too much time dealing with these sorts of nutbars.
    
    She won’t be funded by anyone, let alone the conspiracy theories above of Soros or Clinton (lol, tinfoil hats much guys?)
    
    She’s the type of person who is involved of networks of activists who are into this stuff, and is obsessed with a particular issue.
    
    In Valerie’s case her main objective is to attempt to demonstrate that the defence force is a waste of money and simply is a tool of the evil imperialist USA. She’s anti-war and military because in her eyes war is just another tool of the evil capitalist white man.
    
    It’s not a big conspiracy! She’s just a nut haha.
    
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    July 27, 2018 1:00pm
- Harkman
  
  Morse (is she a foreigner?) changed the subject to Trump wanting to get the “vermin” out of a America, she conveniently fails to mention Trump was referring to MS13 and human smugglers. MS13 is considered by US law enforcement, the worst gang in America.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:45am
  - graham
    
    She also didn’t mention anything about Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables”.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:15am
duggledog

I’ve been searching the international media especially The Guardian & BBC in the UK for articles on how former Prime Minister of NZ and UN #2 Helen Clark helped shut down a concert to raise money for infants in 3rd World Countries.

I would have thought that was a truly extraordinary story but I can’t find a damn thing.

Nor anything that mentions Youth Adjacent Messiah PM / DJ Jacinda Ardern who is in full agreement.

According to Helen Clark last night (interviewed on Radio Live) it sets a Dangerous Precedent.

Danger as in a minor inconvenience, or actual danger, the sort that threatens lives?

Disgusting.
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July 27, 2018 9:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Nobody saw John Key actually eat any babies at a bbq but Clark’s actions will lead to the death of babies through her selfish actions.
  
  We won’t actually see the results of Clark’s lobbying happen either, but it is more plausible than anything JK did (or didn’t do)
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:12am
  - Fletch
    
    At this stage, Helen is just a grumpy old lady scared of being kept awake for one night. “Turn that music down!”
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:31am
    - igm
      
      A frustrated has been childless dyke . . . is there anything nastier?
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:48am
      - starboard
        
        ..post menopausal as well. Many seem to go off camber around that stage. *ducks for cover*
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:12am
    - Monique Watson
      
      No Starboard, that shit starts much earlier. It sucks being a woman; that aspect where you have your kids then around fucking seven years after you got the last one off your tittie the hormones start dropping and you have to be very careful with what you say and what you chuck into the pie-hole or you get fat and nasty.
      Or you take it on the chops and become a lady.
      
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      July 27, 2018 1:34pm
      - wiseowl
        
        Thank goodness you understand about it Monique.
        I am on the receiving end of someone who has transformed into a very nasty person .
        Destroyed the family and wrecked some wonderful years.
        
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        July 27, 2018 5:38pm
- ross411
  
  How dare you! Heavens to Betsy. Lady Helen has never gone without a nights sleep in her life, not even when she was knee deep in the UN, an outfit infamous for sexual abuse in the countries it “helps”. You dare to suggest that she should have her nightly cup of warm milk, then retire at the distinguished hour of 9 PM, only to hear some god awful noise? THINK OF THE PRECEDENT THIS WOULD SET! Any Tom, Dick or Harold might then feel obliged to hold parties any which where place, near to her palatial estate. Gadzooks, it’s enough to give a lady a case of the vapours. Know your place, or she will get angry, and you do not want to see her angry.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:19am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Maybe a bit of a pedant here, but, it is Muhammad, Aroha and Soyboy these days because, you know, Enid Blyton was RACIST!
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:35am
    - 4077th
      
      Can you buy a Gollywog in muslim countries? I bet you probably could!
      
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      July 27, 2018 10:23am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Great, but I would want mine to be knitted rather than real.
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:46pm
  - 4077th
    
    The Irony is of course that she was Minister for the arts..of which music is probably one of the more important ones. I bet if it was the NZSO playing at Eden Park she would be in boots and all along with her Chardonnay socialist neighbours. I wonder why she chose to buy a property close to a stadium? Was it her love of rugby perhaps?
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:37am
    - Inandout
      
      She set aside $90 million for the arts I believe.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:48am
      - 4077th
        
        Exactly, what is more disgusting are the smears of Sir Ray who has only ever done good things for people. Clarkula doesn’t give a single fuck. She got her way, meanwhile a brilliant invention to save babies lives goes on the back burner. FFS, i despair sometimes!
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:20am
  - Paulus
    
    Presumably it is from Clark that Cindy gets her filthy temper (behind doors) – ask some of her ex staff.
    
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    July 27, 2018 1:45pm
- stephieboy
  
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  duddledog, search Fox and Infowars?
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:35am
  - pentwig
    
    great comment stupidboy
    
    DUH
    LOL
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:41am
- niggly
  
  Another hypocrite – Helen Clark – who in her youth (and into her middle age and as a politician) cut her cloth protesting against societal norms and didn’t give a stuff what everyday NZ’ers thought as she sought to impose her views on them.
  
  Now later in life the former “revolutionary” wants a comfortable, drama free existence, meaning that no concerts be held in her neighborhood (to save babies lives FFS)! In other words, NO WAY should there be “change” (despite being someone who pushed and pushed for “change” over the decades)!
  
  Good grief, Helen’s turned into a grumpy old Curmudgeon!
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:39am
  - kowtow
    
    Like Joschka Fischer , German Green who became foreign minister and yet was a violent street thug in the ’70’s.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:49am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Would Ms Clark have complained if Ray Avery had managed to get Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) on the bill?
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:20am
- KevOB
  
  You have to set aside distaste for HC and her politics from her rights as citizen living in her neighbourhood.
  
  I once lived near Western Springs and the events there caused nusiance for K’s around–both traffic and noise. Re-purposing Eden Park surely requires prior community approval. No children were really put at risk as Mt Smart is still available for major concerts.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:47am
  - starboard
    
    Did you move there knowing concerts and speedway were next door? If yes, no argument.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:15am
    - KevOB
      
      I lived about 2Km away. Didn’t even know it was there when the family moved in.
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:44am
      - starboard
        
        Really?? You never knew Western Springs Speedway was there? Were you from out of town?
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:47pm
      - KevOB
        
        @starboard
        We were. I got caught up with work in Auckland on the way back to Wellington from some years overseas.
        
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        July 27, 2018 5:41pm
- realityczech
  
  Where is Bridges on this?
  
  He has no balls.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:18am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    What the f*ck is it to do with Bridges?
    
    This is a matter between Ray Avery, the Eden Park Trust and Auckland Council.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:21am
    - 4077th
      
      Correct but just to clarify, Judith is looking after them, in a small bag, in her bottom drawer. Right next to hers!
      
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      July 27, 2018 10:32am
  - howitis
    
    Bridges probably doesn’t know where Eden Park is.
    
    On the other hand, if you asked him where to find the freshest soy milk….
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:08am
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I find it amusing that those people tying themselves in knots about the impending visit by Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux, seem to be unaware of next months Auckland debate featuring Douglas Murray. Check him out on Youtube if you haven’t heard of him, he’s brilliant. Murray is one of UK’s leading conservative commentators and a fierce critic of islam, he is an intellectual juggernaut compared to Southern and Molyneux, without any of the alt-right baggage or unnecessary theatrics.
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July 27, 2018 9:08am
- dime
  
  I don’t rate Southern, but Molyneux is no slouch.
  
  Stefan has a better education than Murray if that means anything nowadays..
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:42am
  - stephieboy
    
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    dime, better education? ?
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:43am
    - rangitoto
      
      MA in history whatever that is worth.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:57am
      - stephieboy
        
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        I suppose that beats Tommy Robinson.
        
        Sigh!
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:03am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Tommy Robinson is a qualified aircraft engineer.
        
        Where did you get your degree, Galah?
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:28pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “I suppose that beats Tommy Robinson.”
        
        It definitely beats your hero Joe Stalin who was expelled from a Russian Orthodox Seminary for sedition.
        
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        July 27, 2018 6:59pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      There goes that bloody parrot again…..
      
      “….dime, better education? ?”
      
      It’s still learning to write & speak.
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:55pm
duggledog

Anyway in other news I never thought I’d see, the Worst Government Ever has decided to lump employers with yet more costs. Now we have:

4 Weeks of paid annual leave
1 week of statutory holiday leave
1 week of sick leave
And now –
Two weeks of ‘my partner bashed me but I can’t show you the scars as they are under my blouse’ leave. Apparently you don’t even need proof the abuse happened.

Forget ACC, Kiwi Saver, Maternity etc that’s two months’ productivity an employer has to find somewhere else.

Know what that is? It’s a recipe for not employing the women who would have needed that job.

Own goal ladies. Should have looked beyond Jacinda’s ‘Concerned Face’ TM & gender.
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July 27, 2018 9:08am
- Longknives
  
  The women who are predominantly Victims of Domestic Violence in New Zealand are Maori and Pacific Islanders.
  This ‘Caring’ Government has just put a major dent in their Employment chances..
  Reality is- A lot of businesses won’t be able to afford this Leave..
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:12am
  - waikatogirl
    
    You remember what this caring CoL told the business community, “if they can’t afford it maybe they shouldn’t be in business.” ?
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:28am
    - igm
      
      waikato: What irks me, there is not one of the CoL who has been in business, and the one who has, Parker, went belly up in excellent trading times. He even ruined his business partner to the point of destitution, then ran off to bencome a Labour list MP. What a PoS.
      
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      July 27, 2018 9:51am
      - starboard
        
        Parker is slime..this from NZ Herald 2011.
        
        “A senior Labour politician touted as a future Labour Party leader is romantically involved with the long-time partner of a Kiwi musician debilitated by a severe stroke.
        
        Labour list MP David Parker is said to be involved with Auckland sculptor Barbara Ward, partner of rocker Chris Knox.
        
        Knox, who has been confined to a wheelchair since a massive stroke in June 2009, is best known for the song Not Given Lightly – written for Ward. Knox and Ward have two children, John and Liesha, who are also mentioned in the famous love song.
        The stroke cost Knox his ability to speak, and left him needing fulltime care. Ward is understood to still be involved in that care.
        
        Parker, recently tipped as a possible successor to Labour leader Phil Goff, did not return calls yesterday. He was quoted in the Dominion Post as saying: “I go to public events with her. Beyond that I am private about my private life.”
        
        The paper said Parker’s marriage to respected Dunedin poet Susan Wootton ended early last year. The couple have three children aged between 11 and 18.
        
        Ward has been actively involved in the Labour Party and worked as MP Phil Twyford’s campaign manager in the 2008 election”.
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:26am
  - Komata
    
    lk
    
    Re” ‘The women who are predominantly Victims of Domestic Violence in New Zealand are Maori and Pacific Islanders’.
    
    You are correct but only to a point. As in all societies, there are some women who are actually extremely belligerent within both Maoridom and, the Pacific Island communities, despite what the feminists would have you believe, – it is very definitely NOT all one way. and entirely the ‘Male’s’ fault.
    
    Some here will know…
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:32am
- brett68
  
  Two weeks of ‘my partner bashed me but I can’t show you the scars as they are under my blouse’ leave. Apparently you don’t even need proof the abuse happened.
  
  It can also be historical abuse.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:22am
  - Flash
    
    Another question at the job interview?
    Have you at any time in the past been subjected to domestic violence . . . . . . ..
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:56pm
    - Paulus
      
      Answer – “I cannot tell you or show you as it is a breach of my Privacy and Human Rights “.
      So Foxtrot Oscar – you cannot ask me any questions.
      
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      July 27, 2018 1:49pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  As am employer with staff who have been the victims of domestic violence, I have mixed feelings on this. On the rare occasions we have had to deal with it, we took a very compassionate approach, as I would expect most employers to do.
  
  I understand the sentiment behind the law, and I can understand that some women are reluctant to admit that they have become punching bags for their partners. On the other hand, the employer normally has a pretty good sense about when someone is not functioning. Whilst this will be a potential extra expense for any employer with a large number of female staff, I am sure that most will be able to absorb it somehow, if it leads to a good outcome for the victim.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:26am
- BassilFawlty
  
  Quick correction: 2 weeks Statutory
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:31am
- Philview
  
  I am reminded of that other little rule about Child Support. The partners not naming the father of the child so the authorities can’t compel him to pay up and he probably still lives with the woman. I wonder if the anonymous partner also does a bit of bashing if the lady can claim her 10 days paid leave.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:41am
secondcumming

1ZB’s Leighton Smith is currently on holiday and is due to finally call it quits at the end of the year. They’ve got his replacement Kerre McGyver standing in whiles he’s away, so thought I’d check out what we can expect when she fills Leighton’s slot next year. Let me say that if this is a harbinger of things to come, then ZB will lose me….both as a listener and an advertiser. I’ve never heard such a load of boring old liberal snowflake crap!!

https://i.imgflip.com/2eq8a7.jpg
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July 27, 2018 9:14am
- pdm
  
  I have turned the radio off at 8.30am the last few days and will do so next week as well. Next year will be the same.
  
  I cannot abide that woman – she is an absolute light weight.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:24am
- igm
  
  Like you, the radio went onto sport immediately. Cannot stand the sickly sanctimonious woman.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:53am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You and me both igm. I switch from ZB to Radio Sport at 8.30am.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:27am
- rangitoto
  
  She was virtue signalling to the hilt this morning. I turned it off after 5 minutes.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:00am
  - igm
    
    My wife has come up with Kate Hawkesby as a great alternative replacement for Leighton. Put McIvor on the 5-6 a.m. when many are milking cows or sleeping.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:52am
    - Bottomless_Pit
      
      So what the hell have you got against farmers, they don’t deserve that!
      
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      July 27, 2018 8:58pm
- Inandout
  
  RNZ is the big loser this year when Leighton departs. Kerre will never take his place and the music stations playing in the background will pick up the slack. RNZ should realise that a strong presenter attracts the listeners, and Marcus Lush is not in that category. I have never yet heard Leighton beg for callers.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:20am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s not RNZ Inandout. NZME will be the loser, and for the first time, Newstalk ZB may take a hit in the ratings in the morning slot.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:28am
  - secondcumming
    
    Absolutely correct. Why they didn’t just network HDPA in the morning slot is beyond me. And as for that other wet cock Andrew Dickens that follows on at noon, where the fuk do they find these people?
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:35am
  - RF
    
    Lush exists in his own little world and half the time talks to himself or there are long silences when he reads texts or emails.
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:38pm
    - secondcumming
      
      LOL! My mother in-law reckons he just makes all those texts up as he goes along.
      
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      July 27, 2018 1:09pm
  - wiseowl
    
    Have been listening to 2gb in Australia.
    Alan Jones on in morning and is as good as Leighton but lots more adverts.
    
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    July 27, 2018 5:47pm
- Ross12
  
  Sorry fat fingers sc, meant be an uptick.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:45pm
- Flash
  
  Leighton nearly drives me mad with his promises to talk about something later; his lost papers and so on, but at least he introduces some discussion on serious matters from time to time.
  Kerre is a doting grandmother and I find her endless wittering on about her grandchildren tedious in the extreme- And this week we had a run down of her latest vacation in France en famille, and the French real estate market – well would have, but I couldn’t stand more than 5 minutes.
  I used to listen to the radio all the time, but now its only early morning (if I am awake) and between 5-6pm.
  
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  July 27, 2018 1:25pm
Simon

The Green Investment Fund will be established by the Government to make investments that both reduce greenhouse gas emissions and provide a financial return. The Fund will receive a $100m capital injection from Government and will operate independently.

https://treasury.govt.nz/information-and-services/commercial-portfolio-and-advice/green-investment-fund

Central government has committed to investing $3 billion over three years in regional economic development.

http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/sectors-industries/regions-cities/regional-economic-development

$100 million to $3 billion to piss against the wall.

Greens vs NZ First Good job James Shaw you are utter shit. Thank Christ the Greens will never have access to any real power.
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July 27, 2018 9:15am
- backster
  
  “$100 million to $3 billion to piss against the wall”
  
  Yeah but hasn’t Shane Jones slush fund invested in turning water into hydrogen to propel cars.Te Hiringa Trust and all those other maori Trusts that are in on the tree planting racket.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

For those interested in blog harassment, suppression breaches, Pete George and/or laudafinem.

https://yournz.org/2018/07/27/dermot-nottingham-sentenced-for-criminal-harassment/#comment-294213
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July 27, 2018 9:18am
- alex Masterley
  
  Very interesting.
  The bloke in question has a track record of this sort of thing.
  I see from one of the decisions that he is an equal opportunities harasser annoying not only Pete George but Lyn Prentice.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:30am
- KevOB
  
  Am I beginning to detect another subspecies of Homo sapiens? This is has a self willed bullying character–no one is allowed to stand up to it. Could some of its genes be in the Labour union classes.
  
  Another contender for its own class is a gambling personality. They will always accept the outcome of and never plead guilty in Court. I suspect Winston is one and that he will continue in politics come what may.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:06am
NZDirect

I am sick of the Gender Pay Gap bollocks – paying someone based on their gender was outlawed in 1972 (NZ Equal Pay Act 1972). Can we please have a politician explain it for what it is really is – a ‘skills and experience pay gap’, as opposed to this incessant social engineering.
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July 27, 2018 9:19am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Socialists want everyone paid the same regardless of the value they create. It’s natural they will try to find ways to justify moving in that direction that sounds as nice and non-threatening as possible.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:33am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes coudl they give us an example of where a female nurse gtes less than male nurse with the same qualifications.
  Or a female cleaner
  Etc etc
  Its just bullshit!
  Do our female Mps get paid less than our male ones?
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:39am
  - Lance
    
    No but the CoL has a massive imbalance of males to females in cabinet. 13:7
    But it’s alright when the left do it.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:51am
- Fletch
  
  Mike Hosking says as much today –
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12096247&ref=NZH_fb
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:43am
- srylands
  
  It will be interesting to see how government agencies respond to the directive. If the objective is that ‘average remuneration of men and women is equal’ there are different ways to achieve that.
  
  1. Employ more women in senior roles. My impression is that government agencies have been doing this for the last 20 years. So there are now far more women in senior roles. This trend is likely to continue for the next decade as highly skilled women move upwards.
  
  The problem is that if the Government says ‘do it now’ employers will employ women who are not the best candidates.
  
  2. The second way to achieve ‘equal pay’ is to employ more men in junior, lower paid positions. So for example “personal assistants” who used to be called secretaries are still predominantly women. So replace them with men only. Not sure how that would go down.
  
  As you say the ‘equal pay’ descriptor is misleading.
  
  I suppose a third way to achieve the directive would be to restrict all pay increases for the next five years to women only.
  
  It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If the directive is couched literally in average pay for men and women must be the same, I don’t see how that can be achieved in 12 months without some perverse results. If the target is over 5 years it might be more achievable.
  
  A perverse outcome would be to deny women access to part time flexible roles that they want because that will stop an agency from achieving the equal pay directive.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:57am
  - KevOB
    
    Quick fix: sack Julie Ann Genter.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:08am
    - VicParking
      
      Deport her, I’m sure Hillary would give her a job
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:49am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Sadly, we are unable to deport NZers, and I understand she is one.
        VM speaks like an American, but they’ve already deported her.
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:56pm
Simon

Could any of the Labo fluffers out there, you know who you are, explain the Greens from a Labo pov?

The Greens a play thing of NZ First & Labo.

The Greens just a mong joke in Wellington.
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July 27, 2018 9:19am
Odakyu-sen

It’s funny how people who claim to identify “Hate Speech” really show hate towards those speakers. It’s like they want to line them up against a wall or something.

Marxism inevitably leads to gulags and firing squads.
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July 27, 2018 9:28am
Longknives

I see Serena ‘I’m the Greatest Athlete of All Time’ Williams is crying Racism over her ongoing issues with the Drug Testers..(Who are very interested in her for reasons obvious to anyone who follows Tennis)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/44950048

Remember a few years ago this dubious character locked herself in her Panic Room when the Drug Testers called round..
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July 27, 2018 9:31am
- Harkman
  
  Yes and during the same period Federer was TESTED 7 TIMES, Serena is “all about equality”
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:47am
- MrTips
  
  Steroids combined with micro dosed EPO. Look at her skin and facial structure. IMO, that is what they would be suspecting, if she took any drugs at all.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:24am
RF

I was watching question time yesterday and had to stop myself throwing a whisky glass at the TV.

The speaker no longer bothers to pretend to be neutral and allows Labour members not to answer questions. When making these decisions he has this stuff you look on his face.

We have to toss those bastards out of office.
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July 27, 2018 9:32am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Shit, drinking whisky at 2 in the afternoon?
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:40am
  - RF
    
    Hic…!!!
    
    Wattayuh mean 2 in the afternoon. I was later than usual.
    
    This bloody useless commie Govt has made me drink take.
    
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    July 27, 2018 9:46am
    - Monique Watson
      
      Haha Don’t forget to taper off slowly. Hate that Coors light diet. Has to be decent beer.
      
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      July 27, 2018 1:47pm
      - Monique Watson
        
        Or if the beer rips your stomach then halve the pour and stretch out the time between sips. Can you tell I’m practiced at this type of thing? 🙂
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:50pm
- KevOB
  
  Winston’s answer is in his grin. Simon is expected to respond with a strictly targeted question. The Opposition is being stifled. Time for Jerry Brownlee to speak strongly about it again in the House. Mallard was a bit dumbstruck when Brownlee did that earlier this year.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:13am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I agree Kev. Mallard became less biased after National threatened a no confidence motion, but this week he has run interference for any number of government Ministers. He certainly makes no attempt to reign Peters in, or require him to address, let alone answer questions.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:00am
Jack5

Morse is raving mad. She has protested nude in the grounds of Parliament, against the Iraq War, our military, genetic engineering, the World Trade Organisation, the Destiny Church and cars.

Morse is one of the downsides of closing most big mental hospitals and treating psychiatric illness with outpatient treatment.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2007/08/val-morse-arrogant-agressive-anti-american-aucklandamerican-anarchist-author-and-anti-automobile-activist/
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July 27, 2018 9:33am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Jack5 , like your mentor the US President a great fan of the 2003 invasion?
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:45am
- KevOB
  
  She’s rational enough–its the bully personality. Two doctors could section her under the Mental Health Act.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:19am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I could be one, just give me a couple of minutes to rustle up a PhD from Mumbai Universty and send the prequiste fee through paypal.
    
    Got a catering diploma last week, excellent service!
    
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    July 27, 2018 1:58pm
- Jack5
  
  While we are on free speech opponent Morse, did anyone notice in Stephen Franks’s blog that the long-time former president of the American Civil Liberties Union has offered support to the Free Speech Coalition?
  
  http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/auckland-freedom-of-speech-court-case-will-get-world-attention/
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:31am
- VicParking
  
  After people saw her Nude they had to reopen a ward at Kenepuru.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:53am
Chuck Bird

An excellent OP by Hooton. There is no need panic at this time in the election cycle.

Matthew Hooton: Why it’s all power to National

No opposition in living memory has gone into its first conference after losing power in better shape than Simon Bridges’ National.

This is partly because of the circumstances that led to it leaving office in 2017.

However strongly and correctly constitutional lawyers insist otherwise, a significant hunk of voters will never accept the Ardern-Peters Government as legitimate.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12095880
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July 27, 2018 9:33am
Fletch

1 News asking on Facebook this morning whether people with new pets should be given leave from work. I am not even joking. Apparently “increasing numbers of businesses” are allowing it….

https://www.facebook.com/Breakfaston1/posts/10156431547262719
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July 27, 2018 9:35am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  I heard it on my way to work. The response from my COO was simple:
  
  “You want leave because you have a new cat. Sure, you can fucking leave now”
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:50am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Uhh boss , can I have a few days leave? I have a new pussy waiting at home for me…..
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:58pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Memo to self: never hire a cat lady.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:10am
- graham
  
  Breakfast – that’s the one with Jack Tame, isn’t it?
  
  Regarding Tame, Stuff ask the important question that really matters today – could Jack Tame become New Zealand’s Justin Bieber?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/105793535/jack-tame-new-zealands-next-justin-bieber
  
  That’s it – the NZ MSM has now officially reached the bottom.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:09pm
  - softail 1450
    
    graham, jack lame is the most feminine person on tv1’s breakfast and i include the gay weather man and the blonde sheila in that list,
    FFS lame is inventing a new language that is 1/2 maori and 1/2 pakeha, it’s a pathetic joke
    as is nearly all of tv1’s content.
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:17pm
  - Garbageman
    
    You can still get past the mods, if you care to comment just remember its not KB you are typing your response to have had to re-write a few of my comments lately forgetting they are a bit more precious than our good host here
    
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    July 27, 2018 2:48pm
artemisia

Tenant advocates want letting (and other) fees abolished. Letting fees quite likely to go as it was Labour policy.

Some property managers are already preparing. Other fees are and probably still will be permitted. These may not have been recovered at all or fully in the past, but they will be going forward.

I expect there will be a few applications for costs to the Tenancy Tribunal, and if lawful and justified they will have to be awarded.

If property owners have to pay the letting fee, guess who actually pays it. So a slice gets added to the rent, maybe not a lot but probably enough to cover the cost in a year, and this becomes the new normal.

Tenants who stay longer are quietly lining the landlord’s pocket. Thanks Labour.

http://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/letting-fees-control-says-tenants-protection-association
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July 27, 2018 9:36am
- KevOB
  
  Someone is still going to have to pay to acquire and vet tenants. Many landlords, themselves mortgage payers, have tight cash budgets. If they have to borrow to meet these up front costs expect lesser tenancies being available and higher rents.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:27am
waikatogirl

A Columbian police drug dog has been moved from her home and placed under high security with several officers accompanying her and her handler whenever on duty since she has found more illegal drugs than any other drug dog. The head of a drug cartel has pledged payment of $100,000 to anyone who can kill her.
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July 27, 2018 9:38am
- DigNap15
  
  Such nice people.
  They need to have a proper drug war on them, like Duterte is doing.
  And we need the same here.
  They are just scum and have no place in a civilised society.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:42am
  - MCos
    
    Somewhere around the beginning of the century Thailand had a drug war along similar lines to that which you favour over here.
    Thousands of people were killed with no accountability.
    Black lists were drawn up. Your name might appear on a list and you wouldn’t know how it got there.
    Very quickly it transpired that a very large proportion of those killed had nothing to do with drugs, but were as the result of personal vendettas.
    Still more were killed as a means to eliminate competition.
    No killings were ever investigated.
    I was living in Bangkok at the time and read all this in the newspapers. No secret about it.
    
    Is that what you want for NZ?
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:47am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Better breed that dog and raise its puppies. Could have a useful gene.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:43am
graham

Julie Anne Genter announced yesterday that by the end of 2019 women would hold at least 50 per cent of leadership roles in the top three tiers of leadership in government agencies.

Note those two words – “at least”.

What does the Green Party’s own MO tell us about their future ambitions and the direction they want the country to head in? Well, let’s have a look at how the Greens are represented in Parliament.

Current Green Party Ministers:
James Shaw – Minister for Climate Change Issues, Minister for Statistics
Julie Anne Genter – Minister for Women
Eugenie Sage – Minister of Conservation, Minister for Land Information

Parliamentary Under-Secretaries:
Jan Logie: Under-Secretary to the Minister of Justice (Domestic and Sexual Violence Issues)

One man, three women. Is this what equality looks like under the Greens?

Now if the women are the best people for the job I have no problem with that. Hell, if 75% of the best people for the job are women then by all means appoint them. But the funny thing is that in 2015, James Shaw announced that, in Government, it would ensure half of all Green Cabinet Ministers are women. And further went on to state, “A Government with 70 percent of its Ministers men isn’t good for women and it isn’t good for New Zealand.”

Apparently he has no problem with his party reversing these stats.
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July 27, 2018 9:45am
- RF
  
  The eunuch Shaw has spoken.
  
  The greens have a roster for the female MPs holding his balls in a silk purse. It’s JAGs turn today.
  
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  July 27, 2018 9:55am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Shaw is the one who should be apologising for being a man (if he hasn’t already done so after his first wedgie in the caucus room)
  
  Silent T just needed to apologise for being such a twat
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:03am
- Harkman
  
  Good gosh, all the NZ govt departments will soon be run (into the ground) by Marissa Mayer clones.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:35am
  - Harkman
    
    And if these women turn out to be conservative/capitalist/non-socialists my gosh the muck raking they will face from the deep state will be gigantic.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:38am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Oh Harkman, can’t you see?
      No real woman would be a conservative/capitalist/non-socialist.
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:16am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  I don’t blame the Greens for the fact their party is dominated by females. I blame parents of previous generations who were more likely to encourage rational thinking and logical analysis in their sons than in their daughters.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:52am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  And the next government should fire any women appointed under this scheme and replace them with best candidates they can find.
  
  Racist and Sexist policies are poisonous and should be repudiated in all circumstances.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:50pm
secondcumming

Aussie’s hate campaign against New Zealanders continues unabated. Sky News are reporting that the Queenland government have now outlawed members of the *Mongrel Mob*, describing them….. “as an organisation that promotes violent initiation processes, Nazi insignia and motto, and who outside Queensland have been involved in murder, armed robberies, extortion, home invasion, firearms and drug offences”

I call bullshit on that, they are just normal New Zealanders like you and me…….
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July 27, 2018 10:07am
- Jack5
  
  You are being satirical of course, Secondcumming.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:46am
  - secondcumming
    
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/11/13/29873BE100000578-3119817-image-m-25_1434024931233.jpg
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:01am
igm

What are the lefties saying about the wimpy townie cop who multi-tasered a harmless old goat?
This shows why police have lost a lot of public support and respect.
Maybe the resident goat shagger has bit to say about this despicable behaviour by someone unfit to wear the Police uniform!
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July 27, 2018 10:10am
- Chuck Bird
  
  It must have been a very big goat. When my son’s goat gets off its lead I can drag it back and tie it up. My son’s house is next to mine. The goat the cop tasered may have been a lot bigger but the cop would have been younger and fitter than me. I believe there was also an animal control officer there as well.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:18am
  - hullkiwi
    
    The version of the story I heard was:
    
    “The goat had evaded capture by animal enforcement officers for 1 hour 30 mins, so it was decided to ask the police to capture the animal.”
    
    FFS, out our way feral goats get a .22, job done. Between Animal Enforcement and Police, who picked up the cost of this stupidity?
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:40pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      You did
      
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      July 27, 2018 2:02pm
- realityczech
  
  Incredible. What disgusting people. They could easily have grabbed it by the horns. The poor thing was cornered in a building.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:23am
  - igm
    
    Goats are quite soft animals to handle, and I wonder what the cop would do if confronted by a well grown ram/wether/ewe if it were cornered.
    Seems cops these days are no better than snowflakes ruining the country. Bet this type of cop would not be too flash when confronted by the criminal/gang elements.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:30am
    - VicParking
      
      All those “criminal/gang elements” at the local bowling club. Better take the Armed Defenders.
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:00pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Teasers with a mains connection
        
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        July 27, 2018 2:03pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Why is that cop not being charged with cruelty to animals??? The goat was not attacking the officer while he continued to torture it tasering the goat 14 times. The goat had to be euthanised by a vet afterwards.
  
  PS, Chuck, the goat was a small nanny.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:30am
  - realityczech
    
    I better not say what I would do with the cop.
    
    Think that this piece of shit is allowed to roam our streets armed.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:32am
  - Jack5
    
    Yep police taser use is a bigger worry than police firearms.
    
    Isn’t the death toll of people being “tasered” out of their cars now up to two?
    
    The tasering of the goat was sadistic and brutal.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:34am
    - realityczech
      
      Jacksie, this is due to the police recruiting for diversity rather than suitability.
      
      A real cop would have sorted that out no worries and had a good laugh and some ribbing from his colleagues, with no harm done to man or beast.
      
      Thank the fuckwits in Molesworth St.
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:39am
      - igm
        
        reality: Most recruits need to be wimps, socialists, have degrees in sociology, and as of late, queer.
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:42pm
      - Longknives
        
        igm- You forgot they need to be able to do “Hip Hop’ dancing videos as well..
        
        I mentioned one of my Cop mates the other day- Senior Sergeant in his early 40s who is damned good at his job.
        High achiever with a couple of Varsity Degrees etc
        He has more or less been told to move on!
        No place anymore for ‘Pale,Male and Stale’ you see…
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        Yep, remember the Queenstown sergeant who was shunted out after long service?
        
        While she was off duty on a weekend night, and likely drunk, she verbally abused an Asian taxi driver?
        
        That wasn’t good, but to have your long career terminated over an incident like that was harsh.
        
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        July 27, 2018 2:03pm
realityczech

I am hearing stories that key government departments are running a campaign of man shaming and indoctrinating women to believe they are victims of domestic violence.

They are also aggressively promoting gay, trans rights in the work place recently – with white hetro males once again cast as the bad guys, and the queers as victims.

Is this a preliminary to rewarding women with 2 weeks paid leave if they falsely accuse a man of something? I wonder…???
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July 27, 2018 10:10am
- UpandComer
  
  Its like the Daniel Andrews government. A Muslim murders a woman because that’s what he and the judeo Muslims who run interference for him do, and then the Andrews government runs a massive campaign against ‘toxic masculinity’ targeting white Australian males. Its so vile and obscures the real drivers of the crime. Pure poisonous ideology, mutating reality into itself. The opposite of social investment.
  
  Victoria meanwhile has 7,000 kids subject to a CYFs notification equivalent and they haven’t yet been assigned an intervention originating process. Think about the sheer awfulness of that. That’s per the opposition spokesperson based upon leaks. And it’s tip of the ice berg because Andrews has completely shut down any kind of information transmission, like NzLabour.
  
  So it’s very unsurprising the progressives are doing the same thing in NZ, given what they inherited. Its purely a way, as I keep saying and no one believes me, to filter out potential opposition.
  
  Protected attribute theory is poisonous. Not just for the individuals discriminated against. For institutional integrity and performance of purpose.
  
  The Daniel Andrews government mutate everything into identity ideology. I could do that easily. But it means the actual problems, and the social problems in Victoria are immense, get left to worsen.
  
  Just remember, all social democrats do is instrumentalise their victims they patronise to push ideology. They don’t care about people. They don’t like people. They don’t want people to be independent and free and wealthy. They want people snared in bad government so they can exploit their pathologies to promote their pet theories.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:17am
- ex-golfer
  
  While I haven’t seen any specific evidence of what you write (and I work at one of the large Govt depts, although by choice not for much longer), it is clear that around me men are being marginalised and a slow and steady takeover by women is going on.
  Which is why I find the whole concept of a quota for the public service a joke – it is already heavily weighted in favour of women.
  Maybe its a case that sensible men, like me, know when enough is enough and we get out while the getting out is good!
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:19am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Women represent 61% employees in NZ Public Service (2017)
    
    Women in Chief Executive positions – 41%
    
    Women in senior Management Roles – 48%
    
    http://www.ssc.govt.nz/2017-public-service-workforce-data-published
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:48am
    - VicParking
      
      Not enough for Julie-Anne
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:02pm
  - Paulus
    
    I think you will find that since the Clark days that the pressure for the introduction of more women into key Public Service roles has taken place surreptitiously by the the feminist HR Departments.
    Has been going on for over 20 years.
    
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    July 27, 2018 2:02pm
Chuck Bird

Is it hate speech to say Helen Clark is a wicked witch?

Kate Hawkesby: Why do we have a stadium we can’t use?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12096235
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July 27, 2018 10:11am
- Lance
  
  She did actual call her a ‘misery guts’ which is highly accurate
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:19am
- srylands
  
  “The resource consent process was going to stretch beyond October and cost more than $1 million including the legal fees.”
  
  WTF?
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:23am
  - 4077th
    
    Yes that’s what I thought. Goof would do anything to get his waterfront stadium off the ground..Why promote Eden Park? Yes, now we know the real reason for the high cost of RC, perfect disincentive.
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:43am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    The value of all of the economic activity that might have happened if not for the RMA is truly massive. Not just the activity that is prohibited, also the activity that is allowed but is not worth doing due to the cost and delay of jumping through all the hoops .
    
    It’s just politically so much easier to add laws and regulations to address bad things that are currently happening, than to get rid of laws and regulations that prevent good things currently not happening. You can’t put footage of stuff not happening on the six o’clock news.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:14am
- KevOB
  
  What is ridiculous is the stated expectation of over $1M to deal with extension of use considerations in the Environmental Court.
  
  Can’t there be some inexpensive community input into re-purposing the use of Eden Park? It will be contentious locally.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:39am
  - 4077th
    
    The residents will protest it being knocked down..too much noise and dust. Too many heavy vehicles…I bet if Twyford mentioned the empty space would be used for social housing the stadium would be a place of worship and all manner of concerts would be allowed!
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:51am
    - sooty
      
      Is this the beginning of the end for Helen “Baby Killer” Clark. I hope so. It may put paid to the chance of NZs first President as well.
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:07am
Maggy Wassilieff

National Geographic admit to publishing fake Climate-change porn.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/08/explore-through-the-lens-starving-polar-bear-photo/

Hey, let’s watch a sick, dying polar bear for days and make a mint peddling lies.
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July 27, 2018 10:19am
- realityczech
  
  Polar bear numbers have been increasing for years. They are doing very well.
  
  It seems low information townies do not understand that there are seasons in Arctic and the ice melts in the summer. Every summer the warmists film the melting ice as evidence the world is ending.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:31am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I’m heading up to Svalbard next year.
    Seems you can’t venture out of the main town without an armed guard.
    https://en.visitsvalbard.com/visitor-information/polar-bears
    
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    July 27, 2018 10:48am
    - realityczech
      
      “I’m heading up to Svalbard next year.”
      
      Great stuff Maggy. Careful you don’t get heat stroke up there 😉
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:21am
    - Lance
      
      Many moons ago I developed some hydrophones as a joint project with a Norwegian Uni.
      When they went out to check the sites and gather the recordings (in the Arctic Circle) they always travelled in pairs as a minimum
      One carried and checked the gear, the other had the AUTOMATIC shotgun to ward off (or kill if needs be) the polar bears. The one with the gun sole job was to keep an intense eye out for them.
      Flippen heck
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:37am
    - mark15
      
      is that next to Malmo…!?
      
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      July 27, 2018 1:10pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Not really…
        It’s 2,500km N of Malmö.
        
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        July 27, 2018 4:02pm
- Harkman
  
  It was -1°c this morning here Maggy, the same the night before, though they predicted 3°c.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:41am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  National Geographic admit to publishing fake Climate-change porn
  
  Maggy is practising for a job writing click-bait sensationalised headlines.
  
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  July 27, 2018 10:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @MMA
    
    I never have to practise for a job.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:00am
    - realityczech
      
      “I never have to practise for a job.”
      
      Awwww the burn. Don’t wear milky and stupid out too quickly Maggie we have to make them last a few hours 🙂
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:23am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        Maggy’s just gets a bit upset when called out on her climate change hysteria.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Maggy’s hysteria.
        
        Oh, we are back to the misogynist crap are we?
        What comes next..
        That I’m a slut,
        That my tits are the wrong size,
        That I’m a bwitch?
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’m ver sorry to have fed your persecution complex. I should have referred to your ‘alarmism’ rather than ‘hysteria’. I forgot that some snowflakes are triggered by the latter word due to its lexicography.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:51am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m ver sorry to have fed your persecution complex.
        
        That line has been run here before by my abusers.
        Your techniques of trying to shut down folks here on KB are rather obvious.
        
        If you can find any evidence from any psycho/medico source that I suffer from or have ever suffered from hysteria, a persecution complex, or any form of mental illness, then feel free to publish it here on KB.
        
        Otherwise you are just continuing the stream of vindictive filth I am subjected to here on KB by folks who have never met me.
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW,
        
        “..Otherwise you are just continuing the stream of vindictive filth ..’ ??
        
        Victorian undergarments??
        
        You do have a problem there, old girl.
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:22pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Maggy
        You seem to have developed a very sensitive skin, not too mention a very wide definition of ‘vindictive filth’. I would be more inclined to respect your protestations were you to protest other examples of said vindictive filth, spewed daily on this blog, rather than get picky about me labelling your response as ‘hysterical’ rather than ‘alarmist’.
        Kiwiblog is very, very far from being a safe space for snowflakes. Many commenters have defended their hate on the basis of ‘free speech’. That said, commenters with hurt feelings do have recourse:
        1) They can respond to the comments and explan why their feeling have been hurt and seek clarification or an apology.
        2) They can attempt to engender sympathy by adopting the attitude of martrydom.
        3) They can downtick problematic comments, and encourage others to downtick them also.
        4) They can report comments which they feel breach the blog rules.
        5) They can email DPF direct if they feel the other measures are not sufficient.
        6) They can complain to the Press Council.
        7) They can institute legal proceedings.
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:01pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        8. and they can just call-out the harassing bullies.
        
        @ stephieboy
        
        You have never explained why you want to know the size of my underwear.
        
        I consider your request is creepy and intimidating. Perhaps you think it is funny. It isn’t.
        
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        July 27, 2018 1:43pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Maggy
        Your 8. is the same as my 1), but I am a bit concerned to think you might consider me to be a harrasing bully.
        Would you care to outline any basis for such a belief, so that I might respond appropriately?
        
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        July 27, 2018 2:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I think prolonged and repeated personal abuse insinuating that I am mad, deranged, suffer from mental problems, etc is harassment.
        
        I think it is especially so, since you and Griff indulged in this type of abuse for quite a long time after I had mentioned here that my mother committed suicide.
        You can check through the archives to find the occasions when you have indulged in personal abuse against me.
        
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        July 27, 2018 3:49pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I feel sorry for you Maggy. I know Lucia Maria stopped commenting because of sexual harassment – especially from Johnboy.
        But I have never attacked you because you are female or old. Maybe I have insinuated that you are crazy – that’s rountine Kwiblog speak for “I disagree with your ideas”.
        But I have never noticed you calling for civility from people making extremely vicious personal attacks on others.
        I don’t remember every comment made here, and I am sorry if you feel anyone hassled you because your mother committed suicide. Nor did I know, as you seemed to expect me to know, that Monique had a premature baby, not that this was relevant to whether Ray Avery is running a scam or not.
        As I have tried to explain, many times, Kiwiblog is not a safe space for vulnerable peple to disclose any personal information.
        
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        July 27, 2018 4:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        There is no need to feel sorry for me.
        
        I recognise the techniques of trying to isolate a victim and then slam then repeatedly.
        
        My mother committed suicide because she could not bear the shame it would bring on her family if she went to Porirua Hospital, as she was advised to do by her doctors.
        
        Exraordinary that 55 years after her death folks from the left delight in throwing mental/mad/deranged abuse at folks. I thought Labour & Co had more enlightened views.
        
        I can handle this space, but I’ll call out my bullies and abusers for all to see.
        
        As Psychomilt pointed out a week or so… he’d be on here all the time if he had to make comment on every abusive post here.
        You can pin a hypocrite label on me if you wish.
        It’s not my blog. I’m not responsible for other folks’ abuse.
        I don’t abuse others.
        
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        July 27, 2018 4:48pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    mma, yet that is exactly what Nat Geo was doing even though it took them years to own up. The people pushing that photo were propagandists and were doing a job even Goebbels would be proud of.
    
    I wonder if they realize that Polar Bears actually are mortal, and unlike “Puff the Magic Dragon” they grow old and die naturally.
    
    It can be easy to find propaganda pictures if you have no scruples.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:34am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      National Geographic have a good record of clarifying things that have been reported wrongly. I have yet to see any of the self-proclaimed climate skeptics ever admit to getting anythnig wrong – which to me is a strong indication that there is no science involved in their rantings.
      
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      July 27, 2018 11:54am
      - realityczech
        
        That is because critical thinkers base their ideas on evidence, not ideology milky.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:59am
      - stephieboy
        
        kea,” critical thinkers”
        
        You and Ed Snack etc ?
        
        Joking of course?
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:24pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW, a candid admission of their error and I doubt very much you would get the same from Christopher Monckton or James Delingpole and sundry climate denial loons.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:08am
  - KevOB
    
    It was not error but deception from the outset. Liars will get caught.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:57am
- DigNap15
  
  All it needs is for Nasa to publish a few photos of the artic over the last ten years at the same time eg summer and winter.
  Then case closed (either way)
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:08am
  - stephieboy
    
    DigNpa15, NASA has done just that. 30 years of change including the Arctic),” ice has declined from 718,000 square miles to 42,000 square miles in the time period ..”
    
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/01/23/nasa-released-30-years-before-after-images-around-world/#2400787a19ab
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:19am
    - rockape
      
      I have walked over Greenland and at its center the ice is 11000 feet thick! It isnt going anywhere soon.
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    DigNap15, Photos are published but they compare winter ice years ago with summer ice today as “evidence”. It is alarming people believe this rubbish.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:25am
    - stephieboy
      
      kea, laughable claim!
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:25pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Extensive Data collated from the Danish Meteorological Institute in this post.
      Short version- the Ice isn’t melting, quite the opposite
      https://realclimatescience.com/2018/07/arctic-sea-ice-melt-rates-continue-to-decline/
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:28pm
Longknives

So I hear the Left are now pushing for ‘Pet Leave’?
(Paid time off work so you can get settled in with a new Puppy etc)
Is it me or is this Country turning completely fucking Looney Tune?
It used to be an exaggeration but now I actually think we are going straight down the Venezuela path!
*RF -I Might join you throwing Whiskey Glasses at the TV today..
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July 27, 2018 10:42am
- realityczech
  
  Sorry buddy but it is not turning. It is right here right now. A few people, but not many, have woken up to that fact.
  
  I had hoped the new government would be basically useless but not get much done, before being thrown out. However they are making a frenzied effort to stuff the country fundamentally as asap.
  
  We won’t bounce back from this one in a hurry, so brace yourselves people.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:29am
- Garbageman
  
  How much does a revolving door cost i might have to install one in my office if some muppet thinks im going to give them pet leave i would however shout them a few beers first for having the balls to try that shit on me
  
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  July 27, 2018 3:06pm
UpandComer

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-26/are-big-social-media-companies-being-used-advance-new-world-orders-agenda

Don’t get hung up on the NWO nomenclature.

Look at the extent of conservative speech repression on the major socials.

Not just that, but look at how Facebook has destroyed alternative health on its platform as well. That will be a lot of left wing oriented individuals as well.

Facebook dropped $20billion overnight. I think there is corporate warfare going on behind the scenes.

But never ever let Marquess or any other snide vacuous regurgitating lemm say that speech suppression isn’t taking place. Not only is it being outlawed literally. Its being suppressed quietly as well. Conservatives have to make their own platforms which are dispersed and P2P. And they also have to build organisations and run protected attribute theory with themselves as the protected attribute instead of the inverse.

Some of those alternative health pages were really cool. NZ should set itself up as a free speech reserve as well as a nature reserve for comparative advantage. We should become like the Seychelles islands of speech where organisations can base themselves and be untouched by the NWO war on speech. Our economy and our civil society would win alike.

But I hope the Kristallnacht of alternative health pages makes Marquess and co understand that speech suppression can hurt their domains too.
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July 27, 2018 10:59am
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer, all you have to do is begin here on KB to start your so-called” free speech reserve.”
  
  Get a life!
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:13am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Speaking of free speech stupidboy, isn’t it nice that our gracious host extends the courtesy for you to demonstrate your lunacy here every day?
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:27am
  - UpandComer
    
    What does that even mean.
    
    The IQ gap can be real.
    
    Not that it lauds me in this particular case given the very low baselines lol.
    
    You’re just too smart for me Stephie.
    
    But think about it. Australia is going to be shackled and posioned by the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies speech Holocaust, right? True statements, that change no one’s state of mind, punishable by three years imprisonment on a summary basis. No mens rea required. No defence apportionable. Plus a massive holistic expansion of protected attribute theory where the doctors have to pretend the great hairy baritone man in front of them has a womb and menstruates and has menopause etc.
    
    Think about how many high end innovative companies NZ could attract simply by virtue of allowing them to be empirical and run themselves for profit not progressive ideology?
    
    This is a massive opportunity for Simon Bridges. He can link free speech to the economy in a very compelling manner. Lets start becoming a free speech reserve. He should do it. Simon you will be accused of being vusionless. There is done vision that I should be paid a high consultancy fee for, free mate.
    
    Free speech will be NZs comparative advantage of we defend it and destroy ruthlessly and without qualms all opposition to it.
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:29am
- UpandComer
  
  Sorry Facebook dropped over $100billion
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:19am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  …or any other snide vacuous regurgitating lemm
  
  Oh look, there’s one there!
  It’s the galah
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:22am
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: Sydney and Melbourne drag house prices to first annual fall for six years | Australia news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/26/sydney-and-melbourne-drag-house-prices-to-first-annual-fall-for-six-years

Tighter credit puts squeeze on property in the big two cities, with NSW capital down 4.5% … read more via hyperlink above …
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House price crisis: Sydney home values drop up to 10 per cent in just one year – with property markets down across Australia in a clear sign the boom is over … UK Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5992875/The-average-cost-house-Australia-FALLS-time-years.html
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Annual Aussie property prices fall for first time in six years …9News com

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/07/26/04/04/property-house-prices-market-real-estate-sydney-melbourne-national-australia

… further reading …
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/
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July 27, 2018 11:18am
- KevOB
  
  Expect more. Coming to a city in NZ in due course. I believe credit tightening has begun in earnest.
  
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  July 27, 2018 11:49am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    APRA airbrushes history of huge mortgage risks – MacroBusiness Australia
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/apra-airbrushes-history-of-huge-mortgage-risks/
    
    By John Adams, Chief Economist at As Good As Gold Australia
    
    Australia has truly entered the uncharted twilight zone.
    
    Last week, Chairman of the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA), Wayne Byres delivered a speech entitled ‘preparing for a rainy day’ .
    
    The Chairman, as part of this speech, outlined a range of policy initiatives that APRA has implemented in recent years to reduce risky lending practices by domestic authorised deposit-taking institutions (ADIs) as well as provided details of APRA’s industry stress test which was conducted during 2017. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Post by Pavletich …
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/apra-airbrushes-history-of-huge-mortgage-risks/#comment-3152846
    
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    July 27, 2018 11:54am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Kev
    I’d observe Auckland ‘asking’ prices have dropped around 10% since January
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:37pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Surge in new dwelling consents in Auckland could be the beginning of the end for the region’s housing shortage … Interest Co NZ
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94554/surge-new-dwelling-consents-auckland-could-be-beginning-end-regions-housing-shortage
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      Average asking price for Auckland homes down more than $82,000 (-8.3%) from its February peak – prices also down in BoP, Wellington and Canterbury … Interest Co NZ
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94591/average-asking-price-auckland-homes-down-more-82000-83-its-february-peak-prices-also
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      QV’s average property values have fallen in Auckland, Tauranga and Wellington over the last three months – vendors warned against unrealistic price expectations … Interest Co NZ
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94608/qvs-average-property-values-have-fallen-auckland-tauranga-and-wellington-over-last
      
      Quotable Value is warning flattening or falling house prices mean we are now in a buyer’s market and some vendors may have unrealistic expectations about what their property is worth …
      
      … In Christchurch sales activity was slowing while property values were flat overall, according to QV Christchurch property consultant Hamish Collins.
      
      There was growing interest for new builds in and around the city centre, but an oversupply of land and developments in fringe districts and on the outskirts of the city, he said.
      
      These included areas such as Halswell, Wigram, Preston and the Selwyn and Waimakariri districts.
      
      “We are seeing some developers offering new builds or recently constructed properties at discounts as a way to free up cash for their next project,” Collins said.
      
      “This is having a flow on effect on the overall value of new builds or existing properties in these areas,” he said. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      July 27, 2018 2:31pm
      - KevOB
        
        Hugh, if the credit tightening continues the building market is likely to come to a complete halt. Kiwibuild may underwrite some but lenders have to be willing too. Rising interest rates will limit options too. This will probably be the govts biggest headache of its short experimental term.
        
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        July 27, 2018 5:50pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … Australian politicians programme of economic destruction … continued … essential reading …
        
        The price of vacant land in Melbourne has jumped by a staggering 40% in a year | Business Insider
        
        https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-housing-affordability-population-growth-property-prices-2018-7
        
        • The cost of vacant residential land in many parts of Australia is soaring, especially in Melbourne.
        
        • Lot sales are tumbling. Along with falling home prices, this is starting to have an impact on new residential investment.
        
        • Land costs make up the vast bulk of housing prices in most instances. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 27, 2018 6:13pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        KevOB … the total bubble values in both Australia and New Zealand can only be described as ‘horrific’.
        
        There is about $A 3.5 trillion to wipe out in Australia … some $NZ 600 billion here in New Zealand.
        
        Interestingly, the bubbles are bursting simultaneously on both sides of the Tasman ..
        
        Now its time to reap the consequences.
        
        I touched on some of these matters about 4 years ago …
        
        New Zealand’s Bubble Economy Is Vulnerable | Hugh Pavletich | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1404/S00166/new-zealands-bubble-economy-is-vulnerable-hugh-pavletich.htm
        
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        July 27, 2018 7:12pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Garth Turner … Canada … The Greater Fool Blog
        
        http://www.greaterfool.ca/2017/05/01/mayday-2/
        
        … extract …
        
        … That’s the funny thing about bubbles. Everybody’s horny to get their hands on rising assets – until they’re not. It always happens fast, whatever the asset and no matter the trigger. Greed is a powerful emotion, but it wilts before the dominance of fear. If enough people fear houses will stop rising (prices don’t even need to decline), they’ll cease making the Herculean sacrifice required to buy one. And down she goes. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 27, 2018 7:20pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Mortgage Prison: Sydney Home Prices Suffer Largest Annual Decline Since 2008 … (Mike Shedlock) MISH TALK
        
        https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/mortgage-prison-sydney-home-prices-suffer-largest-annual-decline-since-2008-tZlmCh8jK0aWzie4NHh-Tg/
        
        by Mike Mish Shedlock
        
        Home prices in Sydney and Melbourne are back to 2016 levels. That is a tiny down payment as to what is coming.
        
        News AU reports House Prices Drop in Sydney, as Melbourne Prices Stall.
        
        Tumbling house prices in Sydney and Melbourne are the main drivers behind the first annual drop in national property prices in six years, a new report shows. The national median house price fell 1.0 per cent over the June quarter and year, according to a report by property classifieds group Domain released on Thursday. … read more via hyperlink above
        
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        July 27, 2018 7:35pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        I had touched on the matter of lending multiples earlier …
        
        Lessons from the 2007 Irish housing crash … the severe costs of multiple stretch …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/02/nab-tightens-loan-income-limits/#comment-3052010
        
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        July 27, 2018 8:34pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … Severely unaffordable (5.4 Median Multiple) Christchurch: A story of speculators / investors exiting in droves, due to a sustained period of ramped up new housing production …
        
        Via ….
        
        Christchurch house prices may pick up as city buyers enjoy most affordable market in more than a decade | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/105774354/christchurch-house-prices-may-pick-up-as-city-buyers-enjoy-most-affordable-market-in-more-than-a-decade
        
        Home values by suburb and annual change … CoreLogic (median or average ?)
        
        https://infogram.com/_/9ClImBYh4YBE5Wzow2ZG
        
        Surge in new dwelling consents in Auckland could be the beginning of the end for the region’s housing shortage … Interest Co NZ
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94554/surge-new-dwelling-consents-auckland-could-be-beginning-end-regions-housing-shortage
        
        There was a surge in the number of new dwelling consents issued in May, particularly in Auckland where they hit a 15 year high, Statistics NZ says.
        
        Around the country 3407 new dwelling consents were issued in May, up 25% compared to April and up 22% compared to May last year.
        
        It was the highest number of homes consented in any month since June 2004. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-may-2018
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        …REINZ latest report … June 2018 … check Canterbury Page 54…
        
        https://www.reinz.co.nz/Media/Default/Statistic%20Documents/2018/Residential/June/REINZ%20Monthly%20Property%20Report%20-%20June%202018.pdf
        
        Christchurch is ‘severely unaffordable’ at about 5.4 Median Multiple … refer Schedule 3 Page 58 2018 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey …
        
        2018 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
        
        http://demographia.com/dhi.pdf
        
        A simple structural Definition of an affordable housing market with ‘Why the Demographia Housing Affordability Survey is important’ ( Report: housing affordability out of sync with incomes ) are accessible at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
        Housing through the decades, what is affordable? | Newshub
        
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2016/08/housing-through-the-decades-what-is-affordable.html
        
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        July 28, 2018 5:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

Finally, a prosecution for female genital mutilation in Somalia.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/jul/26/first-fgm-prosecution-in-somalia-history-death-10-year-old-girl
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July 27, 2018 11:35am
- Manolo
  
  Horror of horrors!, cries our own stephieboy.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW, hey , ho a derio a Muslim bashing we will go!
  
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/18/kenya-female-genital-mutilation/1041960001/
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:28pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Where does Maggy mention let alone ‘bash’ Muslims.
    You’re just posting to harass her aren’t you Stalker.
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:36pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red.con, I don’t believe you or her. IMO it was no accident she selected a Muslim country without putting a proviso that FGM is practised also in Christian countries like Kenya.
      
      BTW are you her personal spokesman?
      
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      July 27, 2018 12:41pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh, so every time someone posts something, just to please you we have to list examples of where this took place elsewhere in the world…
        You’re a moron.
        And a creepy stalker.
        Seen your Doctor yet?
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:45pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red.con,
        
        my right to question that the efficacy or relevancy of her or any other post.
        
        Not Yours!
        
        Thicko!
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:50pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Your ‘opinion’ isn’t evidence. She doesn’t mention Muslim or even ‘bash’ them.
        So stop telling lies.
        You’re just a Stalker who loves harassing women.
        
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        July 27, 2018 12:56pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Kenya has an active prosecution service against FGM.
        https://www.nation.co.ke/health/Kenya-has-made-huge-strides-in-anti-FGM-fight/3476990-3491900-mf0oo0/index.html
        
        http://www.blog.makeeverywomancount.org/law-and-fgm-in-kenya/
        
        Somalia has just started to address the issue.
        
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        July 27, 2018 2:12pm
UpandComer

My down voters are right.

Let’s just be nice and relaxed and blase about free speech. I’m sure that will mean we get to keep it.

I know a lot of progressives think that quelling free speech and using coercion and the threat of state and peer violence has no effect, right?

It’s just forcing ‘bigots’ to ‘the current year’.

Well, have a look at the impact of a culture of pretending and pretension on the United States’s ability to monitor it’s own economy:

“”A new bipartisan Senate report revealed more than half of the government’s public data on federal spending is wrong, as the website USAspending.gov is riddled with errors.

The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, led by chairman Rob Portman (R., Ohio) and ranking member Tom Carper (D., Del.), released a report Tuesday finding nearly every agency is failing to accurately report its spending as required by federal law.

The subcommittee reviewed over two dozen inspector general reports and determined 55 percent of the spending data submitted to USAspending.gov was inaccurate. The errors accounted for $240 billion in spending during the second quarter of 2017, according to the report””.

Half of the US government’s economic data is fucking wrong. HALF.

They ALL LIE about how much they spend. All of them. The law may as well be in Timbuktu. Because politics is downstream of culture, and the cultural marxists are a culture of pretending and make-believe. How much are these progressive cunts in the US Deep state and institutions creaming off the top for themselves? Just how corrupt is the United States left?

This is the fruits of the progressive culture of pretending and pretension. Who believes that half of the US government agency data was wrong pre 1965? What’s changed?

A supposed first world economy when nearly EVERY SINGLE AGENCY deliberately reports economic data that is wildly misleading. How long has this been going on?

Someone else said that the United States GDP measure margin of error based upon that is bare minimum 1.3%.

So in the United States of Progressive America, the future united shit-holes of Mexico, already, their GDP data is at least 1.3% wrong in either direction. And it’s probably a lot worse. It could be 1.6, 1.8%.

Would this fact have become known under the Clinton Cash government?

It seems, wildly important, doesn’t it? I’m sure the Lugenpresse will be all over it. I’m sure it won’t be a fact circulating on lonely obscure boards isolated in the never never lands of the internet.

Add that to the science replication disaster, which in the social sciences is well over three quarters invalidity, and is even becoming evident in supposed ‘hard’ sciences like endocrinology and biology:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/jun/01/famed-impulse-control-marshmallow-test-fails-in-new-research

Okay? Even the marshmellow test. Womp womp.

It was wrong. The marshmellow test was wrong too – will power does not predict performance, despite the intuitiveness. Intelligence does.

Because ‘Scientism’ the political manifestation of the scientific method, is pure Voodoo, where the authors, many Judeo muslim of course, invent causations that fit their politics. Etc.

I know Kiwiblog hates the word ‘Judeo Muslim’.
Why do people always hate words that are true? Like, man, woman, intelligent, Judeo-Muslim, protected attribute theory.

I bet everyone on Kiwiblog thought the Marshmellow test of all things was valid science. No, it is not valid science. Just like most of evolution. Just like most of endocrinology. But I apologise for snarling.

So, we need a new Pareto Principle. Call it the UpandComer principle.

Here is the rule.

80% of a given entities data and work will be wrong and useless, once 20% of the organization is progressive in terms of people and policy.

Think we’re getting near the threshold in good old NZ?
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July 27, 2018 12:20pm
- UpandComer
  
  I know I come off a bit hard edged.
  
  But that’s because I don’t like to think the only country that can stop us becoming a Chinese dog production yard and Gweizei and Geilo human glue factory is so third world, more then half it’s annual economic data is fucking wrong. Because of progressives.
  
  Just remember, do you think the future United Shit-holes of Mexico are going to lift a finger when the Chinese fleets set sail? That is, if they haven’t already simply taken every institution via proxy in any case? Why would a Hispanic socialist country send whatever’s left of the 3rd fleet to the Pacific? Alexandria Ocacia Cortez thinks China is too capitalist and libertarian civically for her comfort.
  
  Sound nuts?
  
  Read Silent Invasion by Clive Hamilton, and Peter Mattis’ interpreted speeches of the PLA and Politburo. They’re coming for the Lebensraum in Australia and NZ.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRkA1xYBZBQ
  
  Let the anger flow, young men of New Zealand.
  
  Trump is WAY too far left. The US needs a right wing President.
  
  Just kidding. I’m a moderate, and this is a board of peace.
  
  Time for another self-enforced Kiwiblog break.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:34pm
  - stephieboy
    
    “I know I come off a bit hard edged.”?
    
    A bit thick to be more accurate!
    
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    July 27, 2018 12:44pm
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Irony alert! Irony Alert!
      
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      July 27, 2018 6:09pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer, the US to become a whites-only reserve?
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:43pm
  - UpandComer
    
    No, just a genuine grand mosaic and melting pot. Genuine multi-culturalism.
    
    Not a balkanized Potemkin state where everyone has to pretend and posture, where the doctors have to pretend the penis is a vagina, and everyone pretends the crime rate is the same for everyone, and everyone speaks English, and everyone believes in capitalism, and white privilege means white people can’t be the victims of racism, and borders aren’t real, and corruption doesn’t exist, and the GDP numbers aren’t subject to a minimum 1.3% margin of error etc.
    
    I just want diversity and equity to be real, not a worthless lie that’s used to enrich protected attributes.
    
    Because that’s the evidence.
    
    Yes, the United States will not exist by 2040. And it will probably balkanize along ethnic lines, because unfortunately the cultural marxist aim and historical precedent will likely come to fruition.
    
    Unless the left drops it’s identity politics. Which it won’t and can’t, because that’s the only source of any of it’s ideas or relevance any more.
    
    And it’s tremendously sad, and tragic, and I wish it could be different. Maybe there’s a chance it can hold together. But I doubt it. The left are too corrupt, too amoral, too invested in their politics of hate and make-believe.
    
    Italy used to be little city states – Venice, Turin, Milan etc. That’s what you might end up with.
    
    Russia used to be a country on the path to freedom and prosperity before the revolution. Then it suffered a century of human horror. The US is set for the same. And us. Because if the US divides, the world is there for the pickings.
    
    Anyway I’ll leave off. No one wants to hear this stuff.
    
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    July 27, 2018 1:51pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Well done on learning how to punctuate, it must have been really hard to learn not to put spaces before question marks, full stops etc, especially as you had been doing it for so long.
    
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    July 28, 2018 9:43pm
Manolo

The mullah’s warning:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5995587/Iranian-special-forces-leader-warns-Trump-war-destroy-own.html

The general in charge of Iran’s elite paramilitary Quds Forces warned Donald Trump on Thursday that war with the Islamist country would eliminate his entire net worth, suggesting terrorists aided by Iran’s military are prepared to strike his real estate properties.

‘You know that this war will destroy everything you own,’ Major General Qassem Soleimani said during a speech in the central Iranian city of Hamedan.
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July 27, 2018 12:20pm
All_on_Red

Lots of recent studies showing Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity is around 1.5C – which is probably benign and beneficial
https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/ross-mckitrick-all-those-warming-climate-predictions-suddenly-have-a-big-new-problem
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July 27, 2018 12:25pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red . con, hey ho a derrio a climate change denying we will go,
  
  “Ross McKitrick is a Canadian economist,[1] best known for undermining global warming denialism by advancing a series of bizarre and implausible objections to mainstream science.
  
  McKitrick has a computer program that he uses. You too can mimic McKitrick’s working procedure:
  1. Load some data into the program. It is helpful if at least some of the data is climate related, but anything will do.
  2. Perform the data analysis with the program. This involves:
  * Clicking icons.
  * Selecting menu items.
  * Entering values in dialog boxes.
  3. Continue analysis until the desired result appears. This is easily recognised as a result that says global warming does not exist.
  4. (Optional) Make sure that there aren’t any minor errors in the analysis, such as, say, forgetting to convert degrees into radians.
  5. Publish the results. If relevant journals will not publish them, put them in irrelevant journals and complain about a conspiracy to hide the truth.[2]
  After publishing the results, people will discuss them. The responses fall into two categories:….”
  
  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ross_McKitric
  
  Sigh !
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:37pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    You idiot. He’s refers in the article to Research done by other Scientists.
    Here’s the graph showing them
    http://www.nationalpost.com/includes/blogs/2018/06_june/fp0619/index.html
    He also mentions what is written in the IPCCs latest report about ECS in AR5 (2013)
    No wonder you get called Kiwiblogs Dumbest Commentator
    
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    July 27, 2018 2:24pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-17-0667.1
      Lewis and Curry
      Energy budget estimates of equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) and transient climate response (TCR) are derived based on the best estimates and uncertainty ranges for forcing provided in the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5). Recent revisions to greenhouse gas forcing and post-1990 ozone and aerosol forcing estimates are incorporated and the forcing data extended from 2011 to 2016. Reflecting recent evidence against strong aerosol forcing, its AR5 uncertainty lower bound is increased slightly. Using an 1869–82 base period and a 2007–16 final period, which are well matched for volcanic activity and influence from internal variability, medians are derived for ECS of 1.50 K (5%–95% range: 1.05–2.45 K) and for TCR of 1.20 K (5%–95% range: 0.9–1.7 K). These estimates both have much lower upper bounds than those from a predecessor study using AR5 data ending in 2011. Using infilled, globally complete temperature data give slightly higher estimates: a median of 1.66 K for ECS (5%–95% range: 1.15–2.7 K) and 1.33 K for TCR (5%–95% range: 1.0–1.9 K). These ECS estimates reflect climate feedbacks over the historical period, assumed to be time invariant. Allowing for possible time-varying climate feedbacks increases the median ECS estimate to 1.76 K (5%–95% range: 1.2–3.1 K), using infilled temperature data. Possible biases from non–unit forcing efficacy, temperature estimation issues, and variability in sea surface temperature change patterns are examined and found to be minor when using globally complete temperature data. These results imply that high ECS and TCR values derived from a majority of CMIP5 climate models are inconsistent with observed warming during the historical period.
      
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      July 27, 2018 2:47pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Would you care to walk us through what the experts are saying in response to that paper, AoR?
        
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        July 27, 2018 3:57pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sure. It was Peer Reviewed and accepted for Publication by the American Meteorological Society- hardly a ‘Denier organisation (whatever that means) so I think the experts like it!
        https://www.ametsoc.org/index.cfm/ams/about-ams/
        There are a few more which roughly agree with it.
        See my 2.24pm post above for a list. And of course their number is in the 95% confidence range of 1.5 – 4.5 given in AR5 by the IPCC.
        No doubt there are science denying propagandists who won’t like the result…
        
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        July 27, 2018 4:10pm
      - KevOB
        
        Where abouts in the 1,000+ pages is that extracted from?
        
        The IPCC TAR ( Third Assessment Report) said that climate is a chaotic system mathematically and they could not make any predictions. Summaries for policy makers omit the supporting details.
        
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        July 27, 2018 6:04pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The IPCC reports are written by teams of scientists. The summaries for policy makers are written by propagandists who frequently oversimplify, exaggerate and even contradict the reports themselves, and always skew things in the alarmist direction.
        
        IPCC 6th assessment report in 2022 is going to be the end of the whole fiasco, as high quality satellite era temp data + Argo data + sea level rise data is narrowing uncertainties and totally discrediting the whole catastrophist position.
        
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        July 27, 2018 8:21pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Kev
        We are up to the Fifth Assessment Report (2013)
        Which said; “Equilibrium climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C (high confidence), extremely unlikely less than 1°C (high confidence), and very unlikely greater than 6°C (medium confidence)”
        Look it up. There’s a whole Chapter on it.
        
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        July 27, 2018 11:46pm
Fletch

Canada bans Christianity from the classroom –

Canada’s Supreme Court has banned Christian schools and colleges from teaching Biblical values because the Bible does not support the Trudeau government’s vision of “diversity” and is therefore “harmful” to LGBT and Muslim students.

Instead, Canada’s schools have been encouraged to adopt Common Core values such as ordering children as young as six to question their sexual orientation and gender identity, while teaching them how to use a range of vegetables as sex toys, and promoting anal sex as “normal”.

Christian colleges and universities will be stripped of their accreditation if they continue to promote Biblical standards and values. In other words, the highest Canadian court has ruled that Christianity and education are incompatible.

Here’s a brief summary of the case for those who are not familiar with it. Trinity Western is a Christian university that requires its students and faculty to live by basic Christian standards.

Unfortunately, when TWU sought to open its law school, it fell afoul of Canada’s LGBT activists and their allies. They argued that TWU was discriminating against LGBT students, because of which students graduating with a bona fide law degree should not be allowed to practice law in Canada.

There was a ray of hope for TWU when a regional court ruled in its favor. But now, “In a pair of 7-2 rulings, the majority of justices found the law societies of British Columbia and Ontario have the power to refuse accreditation based on Trinity Western University’s so-called community covenant.”

https://yournewswire.com/canada-bans-christianity-classroom/
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July 27, 2018 12:33pm
- UpandComer
  
  Canada is more progressive then the United States. And more diverse.
  
  Applying UpandComer’s Pareto Principle, I wonder how much of Canada’s economic data is made up fairy-tales and lies covering up wholesale theft to the progressives, the feminists, the cultural marxists, the multi-cult uralists as well?
  
  All the people who say we need less free speech.
  
  All the people who adopt the NZLabour platform on ending government reporting to cover up their holes and lies.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLnXaZsBjv8
  
  It’s time for another Crusade gentleman and ladies.
  
  I particularly like the effect of the music and graphic at 3.12.
  
  Anyway, I’m sure it’s good pretending the US doesn’t have a 1.3% error margin in it’s quarterly GDP reports because of progressives and progressive culture. So I’ll disappear.
  
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  July 27, 2018 12:46pm
- itstricky
  
  while teaching them how to use a range of vegetables as sex toys, and promoting anal sex as “normal”
  
  And apparently The Herald is “fake news”…
  
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  July 27, 2018 5:10pm
  - nasska
    
    …..” The Herald is “fake news” “…..
    
    I hate to be the one to have to tell you…..but yes!
    
    Still, it’ll be interesting. Once they’ve covered using a “range of vegetables as sex toys” they’ll probably move on to meat.
    
    The deviant things that can be done with offal are the stuff of legends! 🙂
    
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    July 27, 2018 5:52pm
    - stigie
      
      Deviant bastards, why cant they just stick to the good old vibrating cock..?
      
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      July 27, 2018 7:22pm
    - itstricky
      
      I hate to be the one to have to tell you…..but yes!
      
      Perhaps you should stick to yournewswire with Fletch, then?
      
      Over there, Hillary belongs to NXIVM, Facebook stocks plunged simply because they censored conservatives, and ADHD is apparently caused by water flouridation.
      
      Solid, evidence based, logical non-fake news, if ever I heard it.
      
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      July 27, 2018 8:56pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        So why did Facebook drop in value by 123 Billion?
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:06pm
      - itstricky
        
        GDPR; previous user security issues; less than well received earnings; less than well received user growth – all reported on 25/07 US time.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:15pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Bad Congessional hearing and the threat of legislation, perception of biased reporting by those groups Advertisers target so advertisers pull out. (Google is more effective)
        Privacy issues.
        The reality that young people (as in under 19) think it’s passé.
        And finally Zuck sucks…
        That hearing, well, he was just awful. Zuckbot!
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:23pm
      - itstricky
        
        Some of those match mine. And while I don’t doubt that all of what you have listed has an effect, I think such a sharp drop immediately after a bad quarterly report on 25/07 is because of just that.
        
        Censored conservatives and water fluoridation? Nah.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:44pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sure, but conservatives tend to be wealthy and have businesses and money.
        One of the powers the ‘silent’ majority has it to not support or buy a product.
        Ask Kellogg’s
        Facebook is a Sunset company. They are losing users and not gaining new ones. I’ve seen some numbers showing a lot of accounts closed.
        But yeah, agree the Floridation issue is nonsense.
        
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        July 27, 2018 10:07pm
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  July 27, 2018 6:06pm
rightoverlabour

If Goff spent less time policing free speech and more time doing council stuff, this wouldn’t happen. Morons.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/105767369/new-auckland-bus-network-a-nightmare-for-school-children
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July 27, 2018 12:38pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Clark is aiming for Auckland Mayoralty, and Goff is off on holiday to ‘consider his future’

Think I speak for most when I say Aaaaaarghhhhh!

https://twitter.com/JordNZ/status/1022353659613433856
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July 27, 2018 1:30pm
- Poppa
  
  Thank Christ I don’t live in Auckland is all I can say
  
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  July 27, 2018 1:41pm
  - starboard
    
    How delightful..Klarkula as Mayor and Cindy as PM.
    Oh dear. Oh deary dear.
    
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    July 27, 2018 3:22pm
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    That wont help you at all.
    
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    July 27, 2018 3:53pm
Longknives

If you have a look at Stuff’s homepage right now you will see a headline that says-
“White Men of History- Stand Back”

Then click on the article.
It the most poorly written piece I think I have ever read- I’m still not even 100% sure what it is about!
It seems to be about a New Zealand Astronomer and how she has been almost forgotten by History- No disrespect to her but that has absolutely nothing to do with White Men and there is no need for the blatant Racism…
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July 27, 2018 2:08pm
- graham
  
  Just read it. The article raises the fact that many prominent women who achieved greatness in their fields were overlooked or relegated at the time, and a project to give due recognition to them.
  
  Which is fair enough, but as you say the headline is a shocker. Just imagine if instead it read “Black Men of History, Stand Back”.
  
  It is yet another way of getting in a sly dig at white men.
  
  I notice it is written by Michelle Duff, who a week or so ago wrote an article entitled “Stop Mansplaining #MeToo”, where she basically tells men how they should behave and act, and then goes on to say how she doesn’t want men telling her how she should be feeling.
  
  #canyouseetheirony
  
  Incidentally, I loved one of the comments on that piece: “We are not all feminists, the majority of us women are not impressed nor agree with these constant bombardment of feminist articles. Feminism has done zilch positive for women and quite a lot of damage actually that is disempowering and nothing to be proud of. Have a anti man Triadee and have a cause that’s all good but please realise that heaps of us are over the agenda and don’t agree.”
  
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  July 27, 2018 2:33pm
- rangitoto
  
  Forgotten? The RASNZ run a lecture tour in her honour every year. In any case there are few astronomers of either sex that the public have ever heard of.
  
  http://www.rasnz.org.nz/rasnz/beatrice-hill-tinsley-lectures
  
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  July 27, 2018 3:11pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Silly headline – many headlines are not the work of the articles’ authors though.
  But we don’t need to forget other people to remember those whose contributions were sidelined.
  Beatrice Tinsley had a remarkable carrer and was able to overcome widespread prejudice against a clever and hardworking female academic.
  
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  July 27, 2018 3:51pm
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    Tend to agree. You don’t need the banal click bait headline to celebrate the contribution of women scientists in this country. Force of habit I suppose.
    
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    July 27, 2018 6:14pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I heard about her as a kid in the 80’s. As I remember it she was a genius who was able to pretty much do what she wanted and lead the field without being a slave to institutions. Lucky woman (except for the dying young thing)
  
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  July 27, 2018 8:11pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  and sexism.
  
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  July 28, 2018 9:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The American Astronomical Society began awarding the Beatrice M. Tinsley Prize in 1986. (just 5 years after her death)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_M._Tinsley_Prize
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July 27, 2018 3:40pm
- Longknives
  
  I mean no disrespect to Beatrice Tinsley- Who I am sure was a fantastic achiever.
  But it is a very poorly written article (compounded by the irrelevant and confusing headline)
  And there is no fucking reason- absolutely none whatsoever- For Michelle Duff/Stuff to sneer at and ridicule White Men with this..
  
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  July 27, 2018 4:41pm
  - rangitoto
    
    I think Maggie was just pointing out that Beatrice is by no means forgotten by the astronomical community.
    
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    July 27, 2018 5:01pm
rangitoto

Stephieboy will be pleased to read about another win for US President Donald Trump.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/07/26/us-military-plane-departs-north-korea-with-service-members-remains-white-house-says.html
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July 27, 2018 4:03pm
- Inandout
  
  If it weren’t for the likes of Fox we would get nothing positive about Trump. He is very popular with Americans. What a beautiful plane that Air Force One is:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5lqkekxBfk
  
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  July 27, 2018 5:42pm
Nostradamus

Four parents, two gaybies, one very modern family

Jak was born to four gay parents — Charlie, John, Ruth and Betty.

It all began just over 20 years ago, the day Charlie and Ruth met at a Sydney work seminar. “It was the lesbian and the gay man going off to talk with each other in the park,” Charlie remembers, tongue-in-cheek. “Ruth said something about being a parent, and I said, ‘yes, I’ve always wanted to, but John and I want to be more than just sperm donors’.”

Ruth and her partner Betty wanted to be parents too, but they didn’t necessarily want to take on the main caregiving role.

The solution?

Once they felt they had enough common ground to take the next step, the discussion turned to who would be the biological parents.

Betty was happy for Ruth to be the birth mother.

Negotiations between the men were a little more fraught, but eventually it was decided that Charlie would be the biological father this time, and if more children were to come, John would be next.

Things became complicated.

Alice was born, this time with John as the biological father.

Ruth and Betty eventually separated.

And then Betty decided she wasn’t really a lesbian anymore and “[h]er new male partner Drew was accepted into the family”.

So we ended up with:

The children spent time between three houses: two dads, a single mum, and a straight couple.

What a freaking circus!
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July 27, 2018 5:59pm
- nasska
  
  ….”The children spent time between three houses: two dads, a single mum, and a straight couple.”…..
  
  Fucking amazing! Screwing up kids’ lives……lives created only to satisfy a niggling urge to breed.
  
  Selfish & narcissistic doesn’t really cover it!
  
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  July 27, 2018 6:08pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    The complete story: 2 children spent time between 3 houses: 2 gay dads, a single lesbian mum, and a straight couple (the woman was previously lesbian but has gone straight).
    
    Just imagine if the man she’s turned straight for decides he’s gay and hooks up with the 2 gay dads – and all 3 of them decide to have another child with the (still lesbian) single mum!
    
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    July 27, 2018 6:21pm
    - nasska
      
      Puts a whole new slant on the adage about it taking a village to raise a child…..
      
      …..and a life time of psychiatric help to sort out the mess left by the predations of a few creepy old “uncles”!
      
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      July 27, 2018 6:26pm
  - Longknives
    
    It’s not an urge to ‘breed’ mate.
    Kids are merely fashion accessories in this bizarre community.
    Watch the film ‘Bruno’ where he adopts a little African kid ‘Ojay’…It’s a total pisstake but chillingly accurate!
    
    *Sadly there is a heck of a lot of sexual abuse as well..
    
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    July 27, 2018 7:25pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”Kids are merely fashion accessories in this bizarre community”…..
      
      Sadly again I think you’re right. For a while it was Siamese cats, then Pekinese dogs hanging out of shoulder bags.
      
      Now it’s real live babies……cute at first but such a handful later!
      
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      July 27, 2018 7:39pm
nasska

There’s a rumour going around that Greece are now trying to pay their debts by burning the country for the insurance money.
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July 27, 2018 7:17pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I am presently holidaying in the Cyclades, and that comment is not up to your usual standard.
  
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  July 28, 2018 5:23am
Manolo

The AGWmongers in full force:
https://www.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2018/07/climate_change_global_warming_1.html

The brutal weather has been supercharged by human-induced climate change, scientists say. Climate models for three decades have predicted exactly what the world is seeing this summer.
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July 27, 2018 7:28pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Meanwhile the US is having the least extreme summer on record, with the smallest number of record temperatures, and the smallest number of tornadoes and the smallest number of hurricanes so far.
  By this date in 1886, the US had already been hit by four hurricanes, with three more on the way that summer.
  
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  July 27, 2018 7:51pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes its hard for the news media to report this sort of thing.
    
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    July 27, 2018 8:00pm
  - itstricky
    
    with the smallest number of record temperatures
    
    So every year before this one more than 35 weather stations have recorded new high overnight temperatures?
    
    Or do they just have incorrect information?
    
    By this date in 1886
    
    I would say it’s about long term trends. Not what happens in one year. And yes, I think that also means the “hot summer” article is a bit trashy.
    
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    July 27, 2018 8:46pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Just what don’t you understand about ‘smallest number of record temperatures’?
      The point is that whilst we might see highs the reality is that the number of highs is dropping and has been for awhile.
      Btw that’s based on data since 1900
      And there’s more than 35 Stevenson Screens recording data in the US.
      Any comment about Hurricane frequency?
      They have been dropping too. Read AR5.
      It’s 30 years for a trend.
      
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      July 27, 2018 8:56pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        There’s 1218 USHCN stations…
        The frequency of hot days has plummeted in the US over the past century, with this year being one of the lowest on record.
        The number of tornadoes has been lowest on record this summer.Source NOAA
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:04pm
      - itstricky
        
        The point is that whilst we might see highs the reality is that the number of highs is dropping
        
        Their suggestion of 35 stations reporting new overnight highs seems at odds with that, unless you can show that, at points in the past, more than 35 stations have reported record overnight highs during a summer (or few).
        
        Their reporting of the average temperature increase also seems at odds with yours.
        
        I’m not saying they’re right but your suggestions are no more reliable than theirs at this point.
        
        and has been for awhile.
        
        Your original comment was about one year & one (northern) summer:
        
        is having the least extreme summer on record, with the smallest number of record temperatures
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:09pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        No, I didn’t mention one year. I never even read the link because I know it’s wrong
        I said ‘The frequency of hot days has plummeted in the US over the past century, with this year being one of the lowest on record.’
        And referencing 35 stations is a joke. Talk about cherry picking
        Here’s the data
        https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NumberOfSummerRecordDailyMinimumTemperaturesSetOrTied1_shadow.png
        https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/2018-07-26210849_shadow.png
        And my comments about Hurricane frequency.
        Do you agree?
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:16pm
      - itstricky
        
        I agree that 35 out of 1000 is not reliable data.
        
        I don’t agree with the graphs you’ve posted. They come from a website that uses the below as it’s “scientific credentials”
        
        The Deplorable Climate Science Blog
        100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
        100% Predictable Fraud From Government Climate Scientists
        1986 – The Year When Climate Fraud Reached A Tipping Point
        All Temperature Adjustments Monotonically Increase
        Alterations To Climate Data
        Arctic Sea Ice Fraud
        Biggest Fraud In Science History
        Climate Racketeering
        CRU Temperature Fraud
        CU Sea Level Fraud
        Disappearing Glaciers
        Fitting An Elephant
        GHCN Code
        GHCN Software
        Glacial Retreat Before 1910
        Global Temperature Record Is A Smoking Gun Of Collusion And Fraud
        Hansen Confirmed The MWP In 1981
        History Of NASA/NOAA Temperature Corruption
        Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts
        Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts
        NASA Doubling Warming Since 2001
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:20pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I never even read the link because I know it’s wrong
        
        I enjoy classic description of cognitive dissonance.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:21pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        As soon as I read this extract:
        ‘The brutal weather has been supercharged by human-induced climate change, scientists say. Climate models for three decades have predicted exactly what the world is seeing this summer’
        
        I knew it was wrong due to data from the US NOAA and also IPCC AR5 which said ‘AR5: Confidence remains low for long-term (centennial) changes in tropical cyclone activity, after accounting for past changes in observing capabilities.’
        
        So fuck you Mikey.
        Mikeys a Denier
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:29pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Itstricky
        So no argument about the data collated from the USHCN database but you think because of the headings on the blog it’s fake.
        Stunning rebuttal!
        Sooo funny.
        Face it, you don’t know anything.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        think because of the headings on the blog it’s fake
        
        Any supposed official data source that carries on about “conspiracies”, “faking data”, “racketeering” and “frauds” is at worst dangerous, and at best someone who thinks they know what they are doing but is completely biased.
        
        Whatever it is, it’s not scientific.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:48pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Real Climate Science is not an official data base. It doesn’t pretend to be.
        Although the historical references are backed up by pictures of the actual Newspaper articles reporting the events.
        Quite an eye opener really.
        RCS collate data or link to REAL databases like USHCN.
        Is that data wrong?
        Nah.
        As for fake data. Go and do some research on what Homogenisation of temperature data bases means.
        You might learn something. It’s quite shocking how the raw data of the past has been cooled and recent data increased.
        Lots of examples like BOM Australia caught out. Jennifer Maharosey exposed them.
        You seem more open minded that most. Have a read.
        
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        July 27, 2018 9:57pm
DigNap15

Trump making America great again.
The Eu Backs down on tariffs
Talking to North Korea
Bring US businesses tax money back
Starting the wall
Bringing home some dead from the Korean War.
What did Obama achieve other than Obamacare?
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July 27, 2018 7:59pm
- All_on_Red
  
  The new President of Mexico wanting to negotiate a new Trade deal and start helping with illegal immigration and stop the drugs flowing across the border.
  He knows the Cartels are decimating his people, especially in the Border towns
  
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  July 27, 2018 8:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Trouble at the City Council
https://www.rt.com/news/434395-ukraine-city-council-brawl/
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July 27, 2018 8:21pm
- Jack5
  
  This is typical multiculturism strife.
  
  Ethnic Ukrainian Ukrainians, with their own Slav language, and ethnic Russian Ukrainians got along when there was an outside power imposing unity, as in Soviet Union days. Yugoslavia similarly imposed unity.
  
  The only solution for Ukraine will be division of the country between the areas dominated by the two ethnic groups.
  
  The multiculturist approach – one nation with two populations sharing power but maintaining different cultures – has failed.
  
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  July 27, 2018 8:45pm
Jack5

Stuff’s Leftist political reporter Laura Walters is hinting NZ First is about to go soft on crime, and is pushing the idea that public attitudes on law and order have changed.

That would be the death knell for NZ First, and a great boost for National at the polling booths. So most Kiwiblog readers will be saying bring it on.

Her “opinion piece” on Stuff Walters includes:

“But recent changes of attitude by some in the criminal justice space suggest the Labour-led Government’s grand-plan for the biggest criminal justice overhaul in 30 years just might be achievable.

A former Labour Party president, now head of penal reform group the Howard League, says the “lock ’em up and throw away the key brigade” isn’t as big or as powerful as it once was.”

The former Labour Party president Walters is referring to is Mike Williams, chief executive of the Howard League, which champions prisoners’ rights and rehabilitation. Williams was Labour president from about 1999 to 2009.

Listeners to Radio NZ’s Red Radio will be familiar with Williams, who was for a long time was the Labour spokesman in the weekly political show.

More interesting than Williams’s predictable views are those Walters attributes to NZ First’s Justice spokesman, Darroch Ball. These seem contrary to the stand NZ First made in saving the Three Strikes legislation from being axed by Labour’s Minister of Justice, Andrew Little.

Walters reports that Ball “… is committed to making changes that will help fix the prison population problem and reduce reoffending.”

She reports ” both parties [ Labour and NZ First] agreed there needed to be “real change” in the justice system.

Walters reports Ball called National’s attempt to win votes by talking about ‘tough on crime’ as “tired, old rhetoric” and “basic in the extreme”.

Ball is a former Army officer and secondary school teacher.

His views seem so contrary to those of Winston Peters in his Three Strikes stand that you have to wonder if Ball is staging some sort of party coup against Peters and Jones.

Walters’ article:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105215188/is-new-zealands-attitude-towards-law-and-order-changing
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July 27, 2018 8:25pm
- Jack5
  
  Has the Winston Peters legislation banning waka jumping been enacted, or is there still time for Ball to jump parties to Labour?
  
  Hell, Ball might collapse the whole coalition.
  
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  July 27, 2018 8:35pm
Maggy Wassilieff

RT reporting that Ecuador President says Julian Assange must leave their Embassy in London.
https://www.rt.com/news/434405-ecuador-president-assange-embassy/
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July 27, 2018 9:28pm
Jack5

Some names become unfortunate when they are taken into another language.

I’m thinking of the head honcho of Qian Duoduo, a foreign exchange company. It’s been ordered to pay $356,000 to the Department of Internal Affairs after more than $100 million in transactions weren’t properly checked under money-laundering laws. Qian Duoduo was trading as Lidong Foreign Exchange.

Qian Duoduo’s sole director and 80 per cent shareholder is Ye Hua.

You can read about it in the Hooerald:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12096733
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July 27, 2018 9:47pm
Jack5

The McCaws – Richie and Gemma – are expecting their first child this year. Congratulations to them.

But will this take magazine space away from Jacinderella and Neve?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12096752
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July 27, 2018 10:01pm
GazzaW

Sorry about the news Jacinda but with a new royal baby on the way I reckon McCaw Jnr is going to occupy one hell of a lot of glossy copy over the coming months.

Well done Richie and Gemma!
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July 27, 2018 10:03pm
Jack5

Tim Shadbolt, aged 71, has announced he will again stand in the election for Mayor of Invercargill. He is the longest serving mayor in NZ’s history, having been mayor of the city from 1993to 1995, and from 1998 until now.

Before that Shadbolt was mayor of Waitemata City from 1983 to 1989.

Shadbolt is reported in the Southland Times as saying about his long spell as mayor: “I have got my nose well and truly in ~~the trough~~ front so it will be a record I can hang on to for some time.”

Shadbolt is reported as saying he put Invercargill on the ~~mat~~ map, and wants to keep it on the ~~mat~~ map.
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