General Debate 20 July 2018

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duggledog

So, this chick Laura Southern and the Molyneux guy.

If I was at NZME or Fairfax or if I was someone who produces Seven Shit or even the wankfest Project I would be contacting Southern & Molyneux’s management and putting in a bid for an exclusive interview if they get to come here and do their show.

Those two = $. Promo the hell out of the IV, do it live, make it a carnival.

Because he has shit for brains, Goff has now turned them into the biggest show in town LOL and with the Free Speech people’s legal action he’s created a monster double LOL.

I would be all over Southern & Molyneux and using my platform whatever it is doesn’t matter to create anticipation, then the event, it’s basically a circus attraction. It’s King Kong.

I know so many people who knew nothing about the touring ‘far right extremists’, now everyone knows. Like, everyone.

This is Goff’s ‘Ngati Whatua Room’. It also shows up beyond any doubt the media’s bias, the media’s hopeless management and the fact they are chicken shit.

Laura Southern’s 23!!!
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July 20, 2018 8:01am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The free speech issue isn’t Goff’s only problem at the moment. The Auckland Ratepayers Alliance has launched a petition against the proposed statue at Bastion Point.
  
  The petition reads:
  
  Just weeks after slamming Aucklanders with a regional fuel tax, Phil Goff is committing $1 million in ratepayer money to a “Statue of Liberty” style monument at Bastion Point, depicting the Mother Earth figure Papatūānuku.
  
  That million dollar bill is just for the design phase – we’re yet to learn what the cost of construction will be.
  
  We believe this is a frivolous use of ratepayer money, and a galling move while the Council claims to be in dire financial straits.
  
  The iwi that originally came up with the idea, Ngāti Whātua Orākei, is more than capable of funding the statue themselves.
  
  Please sign our petition to demonstrate to the Council that ratepayers won’t stand for this monumental waste.
  
  “I oppose the use of ratepayer money on the proposed Bastion Point statue.”
  
  https://www.ratepayers.nz/statue
  
  Quite how Goff can justify this expenditure of ratepayer money at the same time he is taxing Aucklanders for fuel to pay for infrastructure is anybody’s guess. He needs to be sent a message that Auckland Council should focus on getting its core business under control before embarking on a vanity project for the Mayor.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:10am
  - holysheet
    
    But it’s always different when the left fuckwits do it
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:14am
  - igm
    
    Hope Goff is the start of a total melt-down by these left-wing leeches that have infiltrated Local and Central Government of late.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:19am
    - lastmanstanding
      
      Went to a function yesterday where Simon spoke. he was asked if the Nats are going to launch a Councillor and Mayoral challenge at the next elections. He said nothing decided but was under active consideration. His tone suggested its all on.
      He asked for a show of hands around satisfaction with the Super City Council and Mayor.
      
      All hands were against no one for.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:36am
      - 4077th
        
        So long as they put up someone worthwhile. John Palino was a very poor choice as was Vic Crone. Who else is there?
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:50am
      - Southern Raider
        
        They were also never endorsed or supported by National
        
        National has a policy of not running or actively supporting local govt candidates which is just bulshit and short sited
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:59am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        The real disappointment with the answer was the phrase ‘we are having a conversation about this’
        
        What is the origin and where have we heard this answer dodging phrase before? Can we expect a committee to be formed next?
        
        That was my question and I was ‘naughty’ as I did not wait for the ‘speaking stick (microphone) to be handed to me, but, to be fair, it was one of the shorter less convoluted and least confusing questions asked.
        
        I thought it was a good turnout at some 250 people by my count and Simon Bridges spoke well while not setting one foot off the reservation.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:11am
  - pdm
    
    I have signed even though I don’t live in Auckland because Goff won’t stop with the ratepayers – he will be after taxpayers dosh as well.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:22am
    - rangitoto
      
      Already happening. He wants a cut of GST.
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:00am
  - Justitia
    
    It struck me watching a history programme on TV the other night that Phil Goff shares many of the qualities of Nicolai Ceausescu, including a passion for grandiose building projects and banning free speech.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:39am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And how did end for him on a lovely Christmas morning?
      
      Goff should be grateful that lampposts are more light stands today and don’t tend to have croossbars although there are several oldies on the wharf fence line.
      
      Is that hate speech in terms of referencing Goff as a lamppost ornament?
      
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      July 20, 2018 8:49am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Probably not, legally, but I would suggest that you lost a bit of moral high ground there.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:48am
      - holysheet
        
        Bullshit Albert.
        When you are rolling in the shit with pigs, you don’t let your morals get in the way. Especially as these pigs have none
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:45pm
  - Harkman
    
    A Maori Statue of Liberty, what’s not to like? What could possibly go wrong?………………. (everything ?).
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:51am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Rather than have one giant statue, why not have many small images?
      Rather than a non-functioning statue, why not incorporate the image into something that actually does a job.
      I give you the concept of the Japanese manhole cover that combines arts and serves to define a local region.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ldrk_KlKsg
      If the iwi of Auckland want to spread images of their deities, then maybe they can fund the production of deity manhole covers that can actually be useful to society.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:36am
      - Justitia
        
        Big is good Odakyu-sen. Hitler and Stalin (and Ceausescu) didn’t muck around with tiddly monuments scattered here and there as pour memoires. The whole school of socialist realism would never have existed without the dictators’ demand for gigantic colossi to assert the omnipotence of socialist ideology and their own personalities. They accordingly make great targets in a popular revolution.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:05am
    - skyblue
      
      Hori should be grateful the froggies did not colonise NZ first. The statue should be of Queen Vic.
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:12am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    The Ratepayer is a cash cow. Goff tells lies, goes back on his word, and does not give a continental about the Ratepayer. Need more money? then bang them again, who cares?
    Fuck you Goff
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:52am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I have signed the petition as well.
    Ngati whatua can pay for their own monument to themselves.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:53am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      That will only mean the payment will be yet another treaty claim in disguise
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:17am
    - 3-coil
      
      alex (8:53am) – not quite that simple. Even if ngati whatua did pay for it themselves, there is still the fact that this statue would be visible from all over the central city. Hundreds of thousands of people would have to look at it – with no choice. It would be visual pollution of the city/harbour environment on a (literally) monumental scale. A colossal statue of jesus christ, buddha or mohammed would not be acceptable, this statue of another mythical/quasi-religious figure is no different.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:37am
      - starboard
        
        Don’t worry.. Me and my trusty chainsaw will sort it if it comes to fruition.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:29am
      - Paulus
        
        Sky Tower is still an eyesore !
        
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        July 20, 2018 2:14pm
  - KevOB
    
    Other Maori tribes will be opposed to along with the non-pagan Christian community.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:00am
  - Debbie
    
    Not to mention the proposed toilet tax
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:15am
  - rangitoto
    
    If Goff wants a staue of liberty, then he should ask the French to pay for it like they did for the yankie one.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:58am
- cmm
  
  I watched Southern’s Farmlands video on youtube yesterday.
  
  Overall a damn good effort considering she did it on a shoestring budget with very little cooperation from various people she needed to get the job done. A much better job than I would have expected from a professional doco team funded by NZ on air or such.
  
  She made a few mistakes in the Bantu history around the time of the Mfecane etc, but not enough to materially change the doco. She also hashed some pronunciations badly. Those points grated me more than they should have.
  
  Good on her for airing an important topic.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:13am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yep…watched it myself last week. Some great shots of Lauren in those torn jean shorts as well 😎
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:31am
    - stephen2d
      
      Oh gosh, she is hot!!!
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:37am
      - backster
        
        On newstalkzb news today the Alt Left Migration Minister said she could come in even though her views were abhorrent. Like all the other leftwing commentators he like Goof didn’t say what particular views they were. Since Goof put me onto her work I have seen many of her videos and can’t find one that presents an abhorrent view.
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:02am
- Justitia
  
  The Dimpost has published its third column in a week denigrating the Free Speech Coalition and its supporters while avoiding the issue of whether a politician can ban free speech at a public venue. What an eye-opener this affair has been so far. The tactics being employed by the media against free speech are the same as those used by the dictators in the 1930s. Time to wake up kiwis, your freedoms hang by a thread.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:36am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    And those Stuff readers who are able to get in quickly enough before comments are closed down have been consistently loud and unusually united in their opposition
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:43am
- Disillusioned_Voter
  
  From Stuff:
  Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway announced on Friday Southern and Molyneux had been granted 10-day visas to New Zealand.
  
  Lees-Galloway said his decision did not mean he condoned the views of the pair.
  
  “I understand that many people would prefer it if Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux never set foot in New Zealand,” he said.
  “INZ’s decision in no way condones the views expressed by the pair, which are repugnant to this Government and run counter to the kind and tolerant values of the vast majority of New Zealanders.”
  Kimbo’s Law?
  
  No surprise that comments are disabled…
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:15am
  - Justitia
    
    “The tolerant values of the vast majority of New Zealanders” would allow the Canadians to speak. Lees Galloway should take a moment for reflection.
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:04pm
Simon

Is Kokila Patel NZ’s best blogger?
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July 20, 2018 8:02am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Has anyone ever seen DPF and Kokila Patel in the same room?
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:28am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Its a she.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:47am
    - holysheet
      
      What the fuck are you insinuating you arsewipe.
      
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      July 20, 2018 8:49am
      - Harkman
        
        “What the fuck are you insinuating you arsewipes” they’re obviously an on campus, Labour funded (which means us), ‘plural.’
        
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        July 20, 2018 8:54am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Kokila identifies as a he.
      
      You on the overhand, are a knob
      
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      July 20, 2018 8:51am
      - cmm
        
        No, but stephie identifies him as a she, and stephie’s identity politics is stronger than yours.
        
        Don’t you know how to play this game? Basic rules are… you’re wrong and they are right – no matter what they say.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:34am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Yeah, ok, sorry, will try harder in future (Muttley snigger)
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:16am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Actually in his blog introduction DFP refers to KP as ‘she’.
        I have not met either of them, but accept DPFs word on this one.
        
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        July 21, 2018 12:00pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Once again, we have an opinion from the knowall.
      If only it was relevant
      
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      July 20, 2018 8:55am
Maxx

Can anyone tell me which policies that this Government campaigned on, have been implemented as promised and are achieving what they promised and are showing to be a benefit for the country?

Admittedly I’m negative towards them but I’m struggling to think of any.

So far:
• KiwiBuild – There finally seems to be something actually happening but every indication is that they will be woefully short of their target, which is also changing
• Planting Trees – excuse after excuse after excuse. Apart from Jones funding Iwi nurseries
• Billion dollar growth fund – apart from funding some improvements to Jones’ backyard (and some other splashing cash when he gets accused of self-promotion)
• Free education – is anyone extra actually studying? We know tertiary education is down, but we’re told that it’s not just tertiary, which is fair, but where is the evidence that area is growing?
• Paid Parental Leave – implemented but when asked to allow this to be split with Dad, we were told, no, we know best. Mum needs to have time bonding with baby. I guess Jacinda has magic abilities to bond with her baby faster than all other new mums and can be back at work after six weeks.
• Workplace relations – we’ve had more people striking already than we have had in years!
• Pike River – There’s a plan, we’ll get in there. Then we need to come up with a plan and we’ll allocation $23m. The plan is we’re 50% short on budget.
• No new taxes, apart from taxes that are levies, or increases in existing taxes, but not the taxes that we didn’t mean, but we will introduce a tax that first with what we think we want to do.
• Tourism Levy – to be fair, it sounds like this will go ahead, but it was originally campaigned on being $25, but it is now $25-35. Who wants to guess what end of the scale this will come in at?
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July 20, 2018 8:02am
- Simon
  
  The Government has stalled on plans to double New Zealand’s refugee quota – and it’s because of the housing crisis.
  
  “It is still my intention to see an increase in the refugee quota to 1500,” says Mr Lees-Galloway.
  
  This was a major campaign promise, but 10 months on it seems to have stalled, from what the Minister is saying.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/07/exclusive-housing-crisis-stalls-govt-s-plan-to-double-refugee-quota.html
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:12am
  - kowtow
    
    Too right.
    
    How the hell can the left (media, ngos, churches, academics etc ) call at one and the same time for more refugees to be let in while they claim there’s a housing crisis?
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:35am
  - DigNap15
    
    That’s one policy they had that I am glad they have not even tried to deliver on!
    We have enough third world types here already, plus enough of our own home grown ferals.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:36am
    - sooty
      
      exported ferals from aussie as well.
      
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      July 20, 2018 3:35pm
  - igm
    
    Lees-Galloway will be out next election, he is less popular than O’Connor in Ohariu, so come on National get your shit together, you will be able to govern without any bolt-ons, if you do what is right now!
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:59am
    - RF
      
      O’Connor has been given the message by his fellow Labour plebs to tone down his bazaar theatrical guestures when making speeches in the house.
      
      It was becoming very noticeable odd behaviour from someone who is completely out of his depth.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:32am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Notice Iain two fathers says “It is still MY intention”
    Not Labour’s intention or policy, but his personally.
    Now we know who to blame when it all turns to shit.
    Own it Lees Galloway
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:02am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “It is still MY intention”
      Ain’t the road to hell paved with those Iain?
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:32am
  - KevOB
    
    The formal quota are processed through special migrant facilities so they are well prepared for life in NZ. I understand the program is residential, several months long and involves outside groups and agency participation.
    
    Oops. It may need 2 years planning to build the extra residential accommodation and ready the external charity aid workers required.
    
    Big mouths can think small.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:11am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Why the dickens are the refugees located in just 7 cities/towns in NZ?
    
    Why aren’t they spread through the country…
    Dargaville, Thames, Taumarunui, Hawera, Feilding, Napier, Masterton, Blenheim, Westport, Timaru, Alexandra, etc…
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:30am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Te Urewera, Ruatoki in particular, give them a taste of New Zealand culture at grass roots.
      
      Once the word gets back to the originating shithole, it should stem the load of free loaders immensely!
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:22am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        Also Matamata and my favourite far north village Whethewhakawi.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:55am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      MW, I guess the support services might stretch thin if the refugees were pepper potted all over the country.
      On one hand it might encourage better integration, but it could also increase isolation for people who are already traumatised.
      
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      July 20, 2018 11:00am
    - backster
      
      Mags..No thanks we need a few safe refuges.
      
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      July 20, 2018 11:22am
    - KevOB
      
      The official 750 refugees are in a caring situation with various groups involved in their eventual local placement. That extends to accommodation and neighbourly care. The policy has been that those accept will be resettled and not left to fend for themselves.
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:29pm
    - cmm
      
      No mosques out in the wops
      
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      July 20, 2018 1:30pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Apart from virtue signalling, what benefits will the refugees bring to NZ?
    Will they be able to bring their relatives into the country later?
    Do they have skills or latent abilities that will benefit the nation?
    Are they likely to integrate into New Zealand society or will they form enclaves?
    Will they be net contributors to NZ society after a certain period of time?
    
    Are they immigrants or colonists at heart?
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:14am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      They will bring diversity. NZ needs more of that.
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:57am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Of course!
        How stupid of me not to see that…
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:43am
      - stephieboy
        
        Odakyu -sen, yes very dense of you!
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:48am
- Paulus
  
  Toilet “Levy”!
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:21am
- G152
  
  Turn Pike into an opencast mine.
  Solves all the problems.
  Gas dissipates bodies recovered safely.
  Coal mined safely
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:22am
  - ztev
    
    Wrong location for that. The seam is too thin and slopes at a steep angle.
    At Dension on a plateau the open cast mining worked.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:49am
    - KevOB
      
      It was never the right location for anything else.
      
      It might of killed a few grasshoppers but the bereaved greens could dip them in chocolate and recycle them that way.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:16am
    - gravedodger
      
      Where pray tell is Dension, take your time.
      
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      July 20, 2018 7:13pm
  - RF
    
    The greens will block this again…. they have blood on their hands.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:34am
- Harkman
  
  “Paid Parental Leave – implemented but when asked to allow this to be split with Dad, we were told, no, we know best. Mum needs to have time bonding with baby. I guess Jacinda has magic abilities to bond with her baby faster than all other new mums and can be back at work after six weeks.”
  
  Yes but her job doesn’t require her to do anything.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:57am
  - sooty
    
    I know it’s rough but her job is just to #sit around looking beautiful and saying words of wisdom to raise the hopes of the great unwashed#, such as us here. except for zit, stephie,and hughy. They get the industrial strength clean.
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:44pm
holysheet

God asks Bush: “What do you believe in?” Bush answers: “I believe in the free market, and the strong American nation!” ”Very well,” says God. “Come sit to my right.”
Next, God asks Obama: “What do you believe in?” Obama answers: “I believe in the power of democracy, and equal rights for all.” ”Good,” says God. “You shall sit to my left.”
Finally, God asks Trump: “What do you believe in?”
Trump answers: “I believe you’re sitting in my chair.”
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July 20, 2018 8:04am
- holysheet
  
  Holy crap , holy crap , you blah blah blah .Blah blah blah ,
  LOL
  LOL
  
  There ya go stooopidboy. I just saved you having to reply, knowing you suffer from a sore head each morning from your session of headbanging at the local paedo palace.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:20am
- rightoverlabour
  
  As A Catholic, I never could quite grasp the concept of the Second Coming… I think I have just understood! Better get out Revelation and do a quick re read. Does Jacinda = 666 and does Trump ride 4 horses?
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:28am
Simon

NZ Herald is just shithouse clickbait for tards.
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July 20, 2018 8:07am
- waldonz
  
  The NZ Horrid has become a pseudo Womans’ Day. I wouldn’t even use it for cat litter.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:10am
  - Debbie
    
    Actually my dog is semi-incontinent. I might sign up next time the NZH offer me a free subscription, it’s useful to have something to mop it up.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:27am
- DigNap15
  
  Have you ever tried to read the classifieds at the back of the Herald these days?
  The print is so small and feint you need an electron microscope.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:38am
  - rangitoto
    
    I cancelled the Herald about ten years ago and haven’t looked at since.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:06am
  - lofty
    
    Nope
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:29pm
- G152
  
  Like all media currently.
  When any news program from any media is on go find something else to watch/listen to.
  It’s all now just a CNN satellite
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:52am
- Elaycee
  
  When we moved to Auckland from Hurricanes country some 15 years ago, we dropped the Dom Post and subscribed to the Hoorald (plus their Weekend effort) and kept the SST. All were canned within a few years and we don’t miss them at all. Indeed, the day they started to give their papers away in an effort to boost readership numbers, they conceded they’re circling the drain.
  
  IMO, it’s only a matter of time before the owners pull the plug on their paper based effort – and if the Hoorald really thinks they’ll attract subscribers to their online content, then they’ll be prime bidders on the bridge I have for sale.
  
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  July 20, 2018 12:30pm
graham

Another day, another journalist having a go at the Free Speech Coalition, and getting completely slammed in the comments. Rosemary McLeod even manages to slip in a sly dig at “old white men steeped in the privilege of their gender and skin colour”.

Why do I get the uneasy feeling that, despite the apparent freedom to comment on articles like this (at the moment), Ingsoc is alive and well, and thoughtcrimes are just one step away?
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July 20, 2018 8:07am
- waldonz
  
  I remember reading George Orwell’s 1984 as a teenager and thought that stuff could never happen in NZ. Now, I’m really concerned.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:12am
- Paulus
  
  Surely in reading McCloed’s article I find it offensive but she is still able unhindered to get the dreadful paper to print it.
  The Herald is the worse for its left wing biased articles and writers – but I do not want to stop them only ignore them as appropriate.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:24am
- G152
  
  How about we build a number of villages and install only the inventions of each race in each village.
  The African village. No electricity or running water.
  The Asian village equipped with all Asian technology
  The Indian village as above.
  Then….
  The village of the detested white man.
  Electricity, piped water, sewers, sealed roads, transport, communication, overall medical health, vaccines…
  Now, which one to choose?
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:29am
  - DigNap15
    
    What was the Asian Technology you referred to above?
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:40am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Extraordinary how little we in the West are taught about China and India’s periods of enlightenment.
      
      Joseph Needham’s writings should be required reading by anyone interested in Science and technology developments.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Civilisation_in_China
      
      Well worth wandering around some of the Asian Museums and considering what the West were doing at comparable time periods.
      (Also worth considering the stultifying effect Buddhism had on technological advance)
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:14am
      - Jack5
        
        An excellent book by Needham. What stays most vividly in my memory is the Chinese piping natural gas in bamboo pipes to provide night light in a town. This was 1800 or so years ago.
        
        Mind you the Roman Empire was progressive in engineering, too.
        There was a gap of more than a thousand years between Romans building paved roads in Spain and the Spanish (liberated from Islamic overlords) building them. The Romans pioneered concrete, too, with buildings in Rome nearly 2000 years old and far more durable than our concrete works, some of which are already being wrecked by eroding steel reinforcing.
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:34am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The rise of Christianity ushered in the dark ages in Europe, creating a near monopoly on literacy, destroying classical knowledge (until it was bought back from middle east and ireland), and consuming more and more of productive surpluses to build churches and cathedrals and support parasitic church heirarchies. Technological and social advances halted for about 1000 years.
        
        Did Buddhism do something similar? I’ve seen the remenants in Tibet – Massive solid gold stuppas in monasteries that probably represented every scrap of wealth that could be extracted from the peasants over hundreds of years, and the appallingly oppressive theocratic rule of the lamas (people skinned alive etc).
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:50am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Romans got pretty close to starting an industrial and scientific revolution. Hero’s of Alexandria’s (1st century AD) aeliopile, was probably the first steam powered machine ever, he also had functional pneumatic systems using air heated by fire in a sealed vessel to pump water that opened a door. They had roller-bearings, concrete, sophisticated gear mechanisms (Antikyra mechanism), knew the diameter of the earth within a few percent.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:01pm
      - kowtow
        
        Urban
        
        The knowledge brought from Ireland was stored by and brought by Christian monks.
        
        With the fall of Constantinople a lot of knowldge was brought from the Christian Byzantines back to the west , helping to spark the Renaissance.
        
        The Dark Ages were not Dark.
        
        The so called dark ages were ushered in by the fall of the western roman empire to hordes from the east. Well after Christianity was established in the former roman empire.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:23pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Extraordinary how little we in the West are taught about China and India’s periods of enlightenment.”
        
        The white barbarians were one of the last major cultural groups to learn to read and write.
        
        India and China had developed societies while Jacksies recent ancestors sat around a camp fire dressed in rotting animal skins picking lice from their beards.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:38pm
      - realityczech
        
        “The knowledge brought from Ireland was stored by and brought by Christian monks.”
        
        Such as how to torture innocent women to death for witchcraft.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:43pm
    - Dave Stringer
      
      Try the drinking and irrigation technology in Kandy Sri Lanka. Predates other man made basin irrigation systems by hundreds of years.
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:15am
      - G152
        
        Or the civilisations of the Mohenjo-daro in India with their great aquifers system
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:55am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        and the Qanats throughout middle east. Sloping irrigation tunnels stretching up to 70 km from plains up into foot-hills where they would intersect aquifiers to produce a steady stream of water.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:06pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Actually, the African village would have no wheel either, and a lot more would be missing. Read here for what was NOT invented in Africa south of the Sahara.. Scroll down to a post by an African Kamau Kiiru, so don’t accuse any one of Racism…
    
    https://www.quora.com/The-wheel-was-not-invented-in-parts-of-Africa-until-the-late-19th-century-as-quoted-by-Milton-Friedman-during-a-discussion-Is-this-true-Do-we-have-facts-to-substantiate-this-claim
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:45am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Wheels aren’t a lot of use in hilly, muddy jungles. You need a flat, dry surface over which the wheel can run. Plus, you need to have stuff (crops, heavy goods, commodities, etc.) to move in the first place. No possessions means no need for wheels.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:28am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Writing was invented in what is now Iraq. Paper was invented in China. Our number system comes from India. The stuff white men did would not have been possible without those.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:16am
    - KevOB
      
      Guess where the Aryan came from.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:22am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      everyone had numbers, animals understand numbers. The derivation for the particular style of number writing is unimportant.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:25am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Not quite, Roman and Greek arithmetic and math in general was held up or at least made much more difficult by a couple of issues – the lack of a “0” and in the lack of placeholder notation. So in our current system, in the numbers (say) 634 and 925, the 6 and the 9 are both “hundreds”, whereas in a roman number, these are DXXXIV and CMXXV, and the positions in these numbers are meaningless.
        
        One can (and the Romans certainly did) do arithmetical calculations using this system, but it is a lot harder.
        
        And back to the “village” concept above, I suggest it is a pointlkess exercise as in most cases ideas spread and can be “invented” at different times in different places. Paper, the Chinese invented the making of paper, but the Egyptians (Africans by continent but middle-eastern and Mediterranean by cultural group) didn’t need to as they had a near equivalent in papyrus. Sanitation – generally a middle-eastern idea. Northern Europe didn’t typically have public water or sewage until well into the industrial age whereas many middle-eastern areas had (and lost sometimes) these for several thousand years.
        
        There were relatively elaborate African civilizations, but not as much is known about them and their accomplishments. And what establishes civilizations isn’t genetically transmitted, it is cultural.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:43am
      - stephieboy
        
        Ed Snack, a pity those civilised values and norms we have inherited from the Greeks and Romans etc are conspicuously absent with your barbaric ones.
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:55am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Yup another own goal judging by the comments below the article ( which I did not bother to read).
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:31am
- realityczech
  
  “thoughtcrimes are just one step away?”
  
  They are 100% here and are very real.
  
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  July 20, 2018 12:35pm
starboard

Vinegar tits McLeod.. just foxtrot oscar you old hag.
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July 20, 2018 8:11am
- Inandout
  
  I am amazed this crone McLeod is still publicly writing her opinions. In this case she has backed the wrong horse, and her age has obviously clouded her judgment.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:49am
  - Jack5
    
    Someone in a post above said McLeod was slinging off at “old white men”.
    
    If that’s correct, she should have a look in the mirror. Will she see a young brown woman?
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:45am
- matchbox
  
  Rosemary McLeod; just a stupid guilt-ridden old white hen whose only purpose in life always was and always will be sticking it to old white men — poor wee thing. Take the “cabal of old white men steeped in the privilege” comment out of this crap piece, and there’s actually no substance left in the entire column.
  
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  July 20, 2018 12:04pm
  - GoVege
    
    She can’t be too bad.
    I read she got sued for giving her opinion on who murdered the Bains.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:09pm
  - realityczech
    
    “sticking it to old white men ”
    
    Because men don’t want to be sticking it to her anymore.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:14pm
Simon

You know how bad this government is when Labo fluffers like Soyboy, Mikenemotional & Zzzzzzteve are working overtime.
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July 20, 2018 8:15am
- waikatogirl
  
  I don’t know why, they are flogging a dead horse. ?
  Morning boys!
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:21am
  - VicParking
    
    Why you say MoloGirl because:
    Fraise house keeps supplying them with stronger whips.
    They regularly change the horse Beaters
    They got the COL to raise a committee to study why the horse beating policy is not working
    Dead horses are really just living-impaired horses
    Dead horses do not have to be fed, they are less costly, carry lower overheads and cannot be refuted like live horses.
    The first year of horse beating is paid for.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:35am
EAD_TWO

I’m starting to see a pattern of such family-dissolving garbage from the global MSM…..

A few days ago we had this in the Herald – Life as a 40-year-old single woman: No one tells you it can be this good

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12090274

And today we have this – If you’re in a bad marriage, don’t try to mend it – end it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/19/bad-marriage-unhappy-marriages-health

The article was written by a 34 year old, bleached-blond, childless author of the “Sexual Adventurer” column.

The perfect example of a used up “party girl” hitting the wall and passing the time with bitterness until the cat sanctuary beckons.
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July 20, 2018 8:16am
- VicParking
  
  They write the stories by interviewing their own typewriter while looking in a mirror.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:38am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The gap between the sisterhood and spinsterhood is typified by commenting from the spincterhood
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:57am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    It’s good for the cat population.
    (Maybe our feline overlords are behind this cunning plan.)
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:30am
Captain Mainwaring

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/105622688/helen-clark-says-eden-park-trusts-defence-of-chief-exec-sets-very-low-standard-of-behaviour

Once again the unwanted bitch is sticking her nose into something that is none of her business.
What is it – a continual cry for attention?
Just Foxtrot Oscar you despicable old cow.
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July 20, 2018 8:19am
- ztev
  
  Surely you must have got the memo. free speech for all despite the views…. and those you dislike even more speech…….. No ?
  So it was all just a front then
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:53am
  - Harkman
    
    Remember Labour left NZ in a deep dark f-king recession in late 2008? Really a catastrophic debt fuelled housing bubble. Hulun Cluck should be persona non grata. Remember the money we wasted on her disastrous campaign for the UN boss?
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:13am
    - ztev
      
      Global Financial Crisis old sock….. started in US
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:52am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Wrong again you defender of the indefensible. Recession started here before the GFC hit. Thank Christ we had a Govt. that was capable of getting us through it (and the earthquakes) to end up with a healthy surplus which the current shower of shit is wasting as fast as they can.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:10am
  - KevOB
    
    Speech rights are partly governed by manners. Clarke has had her turn on the stage. She is expected to retire and not being seen to compete against the new comers.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:30am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Or be the puppet master or is that muppet master?
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:28am
  - stephen2d
    
    Nothing wrong with her having opinion, but who allowed her to use state resources to do dirt digging on an individual?
    
    Also, why are citizen Helen’s views more relevant that citizen Joe Bloggs? After all majority of Aucklanders and even nearby residents are ok with this concert.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:48am
    - ztev
      
      What state resources to dig dirt… it was in a newspaper.
      hes a con man
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:56am
  - Dave Stringer
    
    Fair comment.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:23am
- dime
  
  “”This sets a very low standard of behaviour for an entity operating under an Act of Parliament. I would describe such behaviour as unethical.””
  
  lmao didn’t she have an MP who kept slaves? lol
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:58am
- stephen2d
  
  Now it makes more sense why suddenly newspapers publish Eden Park CEO story. Hit job from Helun.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:46am
  - ztev
    
    No . Journalism checks out an outsiders bacground ….by gasp….. the internet and then it seems they have the Aust. Federal Court transcript.
    
    Sounds like the CEO is a nasty piece of work based on his shenanigans against his then boss and the Stadium
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:59am
    - stephen2d
      
      Fair enough, but how is it relevant to Sir Ray’s concert plans?
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:15pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Yep. Just because she hates the charity concert.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:13am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I sit on a Board with Nick and consider him to be a of excellent integrity and character as well as a highly competent CEO and Director.
  
  There are always at least 2 sides to every story as Ms Clark well knows.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:49am
  - ztev
    
    The Federal court heard ‘2 sides’ . Dont you know that ?
    “Paul Sergeant, who was chief executive of Melbourne Stadiums Ltd when it dismissed Nick Sautner, told Newsroom: “Those trying to sow the seed that this was based on a clash of personalities are trying to divert the attention away from the facts.
    
    “This was about right and wrong. My Board at that time were involved every step of the way and believe me, they would not have allowed this to go to court based on a ‘clash of personalities’. A full panel of five Federal Court Judges, unheard of for such a case in Victoria for 20 years, reached their unanimous verdict based on factual evidence.”
    
    10…9…8..7..
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:02am
- RF
  
  Just you wait…… she will soon be gifted a cushy number by her pseudo daughter, the commie chick.
  
  Troughers such as Clark cling to the public tit as long as they can.
  
  Expect to hear more from her for many years to come.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:42am
- backster
  
  Why won’t she go to Sweden?
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:31am
secondcumming

Had dinner out last night with a couple of friends from the gun club. As is normally the case, the entire conversation centered around Auckland house prices and the damage this Labor government is doing to business.

My mate’s wife made what I thought was an interesting observation…..”the qualities she would like to see in a Prime Minister”. She thought he would be someone with the ideals of President Rodrigo Duterte, the steely cunning and sense of humor displayed by Vlad Putin, the charm and boyish good looks of Justin Trudeau….and be married to someone with a similar background and style to that of Melania.

She then went on to suggest that maybe I should consider standing as an Independent for Epsom in 2020…….
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July 20, 2018 8:19am
- VicParking
  
  After than no doubt you came a third time.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:40am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yup…there’s nothing like liver for an entree 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:02am
- Harkman
  
  Just Do It
  
  (Sorry Nike)
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:15am
oldpark

Just noticed on another web site . Photos of three anti free speech bullies. Seems they dont want NZs to hear two Canadians coming to NZ and speak about how free speech around the world is being shut down.
Interesting two of the three possible” Illegals”who are hell bent on disrupting free speech marches dont even come from NZ.Yet they want the Canadians banned from speaking in a rate payer owned building in Auckland.
Maybe it is time the authorities checked out the possible “terrorists” and how and when they even were allowed into NZ. Rumour is they are just the tip of the iceberg,and are part of a “terrorist” cell in Auckland Maybe the rumours are not just rumours. Not so long ago a bunch of “terrorists “went almost berserk supporting the middle-east gangsters and anti Jews sickos Hisbollah. Wonder why the sound of silence from Goff on that protest was deafening. Oh yes didn’t he give another terrorist group Hamas $500,000 of NZs Taxpayers dollars.Go figure.
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July 20, 2018 8:20am
hullkiwi

“Transformational” another word done to death by the Looney left who run local & central government in NZ.

For the past couple of months it has been the clowns that comprise the cabinet.

Now it is the mayor of Dunedin. This in relation to $800k from Indiana Jones slush fund for a feasibility study into the redevelopment of the Dunedin waterfront (all built on reclaimed land).

The study to look into building:
A new sea wall;
A 800 bed hotel 5 star hotel; and
A convention centre.

Without receiving $800k, I could write the report now and come with the usual conclusions of either “Yes” to all or the PwC view of no firm conclusions until I do yet another study.

However, how about we stop this circus & get real – and here I give my apologies to the people of Dunedin & Otago –

Greater Dunedin has a population of circa 100k & NZ has 4.5m people. But when are people going to stop & realise not every centre requires large/empty hotels & under used convention centres/town halls. Because NZ is a country that is, but a pimple on the arse of the world – we are not on the world conference/convention circuit and we are not on the world exhibition circuit. So why do we have politicians, civic leaders and idiot business people who are prepared to waste/squander this country’s scarce economic resources on such vanity projects, that will remain economic black holes e.g. the Cloud, the ANZ Convention Centre in the Wynyard Quarter, proposed Auckland Stadium etc. Not one of these projects are “Transformational”, whatever that means.
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July 20, 2018 8:29am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, and who really wants to visit Dunedin?
  Its hardly a great tourist spot!
  
  Better to put that money into some high tech park to use the brain power that we all know is in that area.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:42am
  - RF
    
    Don’t like Dunedins chances in a good Earthquake. The airport is many miles away sitting in a low lying area that would flood very quickly.
    
    Our 3 military choppers would be busy shifting people.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:09am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Assuming the Minister of Defence was not using them from his backyard at the time . . . .
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:33am
- holysheet
  
  They better consult with Jimmy two mums first. Who would build anything at sea level when we are constantly being told that with global warming, the seas are going to rise by metres in the next few years.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    This council has already spent a fortune studying sea level rise and bangs on constantly about climate change and yet they plan to squander hundreds of millions on this water front lunacy , which in the event will never get off the ground.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:54am
  - VicParking
    
    They can just expand the aquarium.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:35am
  - RF
    
    What’s going on with Jimmy and his face fungus. Is this a new age look……
    
    It did not work for the Green boy child as his voice still squeaked, Mallard heard voices and Little … well……. not sure about him as he is still an idiot.
    
    Almost forgot about Cunners…. he got handed his arse….
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:15am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes I saw that replica of Darling Harbour on the news last night. FFS, Dunedin has the same population as Lower Hutt. What are those idiots smoking?
  And yes that clown Cull has a serious case of Goff-itis.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:48am
  - Harkman
    
    It’ll be a white elephant, just like the Chch stadium.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:05am
    - doggone7
      
      It’ll be a white elephant, just like the indoor stadium in Dunedin. I remember that being rubbished.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:56am
  - hullkiwi
    
    CM, exactly NZ seems to have a surfeit of idiots like Goofy who have no problem wasting money on countless studies to build white elephants. Our dopey politicians like to indulge their vanities & then compound the problem by playing to the ignorant egos of their electorates by telling us that all these white elephants are needed & affordable. They are when measured in isolation, but when measured alongside all other requirements of central or local government they are neither needed or affordable.
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:27am
- Inandout
  
  Dunedin under Cull: Cars go missing, and they still have sewage problems.
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/zoomify/24431/dunedin-renamed-stinkapool
  Get back to basics Cull, and that goes for all NZ councils; forget the fucking flashy monuments.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Infrastructure been falling apart for years. But the urge is to build costly white elephants.
    
    ‘Three separate investigations have been launched into Aurora and Delta amid claims their failure to replace dangerous power poles could cost the Dunedin City Council tens of millions of dollars.’
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dcc/delta-aurora-subject-three-investigations
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:26am
  - kevn
    
    #inOut… Rotorua has the same council disease. A HUGE carbon fibre clad, 3D printed thing going up at the south entrance to Rotorua.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:57am
Monique Watson

I saw Mummy sucking Santa Claus.
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July 20, 2018 8:42am
- holysheet
  
  It’s not Christmas yet. Did you go to the Michael Jackson museum yesterday?
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:46am
Catons

Goff’s failure to address council spending is being paid by everybody because the fuel companies are putting up fuel around the country to help reduce the impact on Auckland. All Goff needs to do is reduce spending by 4% and the fuel tax would not be needed.
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July 20, 2018 9:05am
- rangitoto
  
  4% should be easily covered by the efficiency and scale of the super city. The only real way of doing this is to dump the council upper management and employ a Town Clerk who can do the job properly. Plus a council focused on core business.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:21am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Didn’t Goof campaign on trimming fat in council spending?
    All hui no do-ey!
    
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    July 20, 2018 6:20pm
Happychappy

We have had 25years of NZ First as a political Party with a shit house Leader that has lied and shit on those that voted for him and he is still touring NZ trying to con and swing those that have voted for him and the Party into forgiving him so his Party survives. This from a man and Party that would be wiped out in most countrys for the corupt acts like the Vela Helecopter saga, Owen Glenn Donation and other dealings that have tainted Peters and his Party in the past. But you watch come the next election those people that will say they will never vote NZ First again will be making a case on here to give him the balance of power again.
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July 20, 2018 9:08am
- Harkman
  
  I know lol, One News quoted him as saying the reason for lasting so long is they don’t take funds from big business. Hilarious joke, the racing industry for one. Winston is just filthy with corporate handouts. I was laughing so hard. ? Jessica Mutch is such a lousy reporter.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:22am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Why pick on Mutch? They are pretty much all equally inept, ‘what do you think of New Zealand?’ And then get shitty when John Cleese gives the answer they did not expect or like!
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:39am
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      She did the reporting.
      
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      July 20, 2018 4:49pm
- RF
  
  Happychappy.
  
  The hand tremors are becoming worse, lapses of memory becoming more frequent.
  
  Reminds me of the film. “Goodbye Mr. Chips.”
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:59am
secondcumming

I don’t think Malcolm Turnbull thought there would be a lot of ‘brownie points’ in coming down too hard on a pregnant Jacinda …….but watch Dutton kick the shit out of Little 🙂
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July 20, 2018 9:14am
- Happychappy
  
  Littles mouth is bigger than his brain and now people might understand why he will possibly go down as one of Labour’s worst Leaders. When you look at Palmer that says a lot about the intelligence of Little.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:39am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Listening to this morning’s news, it sounds like Little did the grand tour of Northland. Spoke & listened to all the iwi groupings of Ngapuhi, and went back to Wellington. Once there he has done his own thing & now they are disappointed in Labour too.
    
    Note helpful for the chances of Witless Kelvin.
    
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    July 20, 2018 12:05pm
dime

lol

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12091050

a column by “Lady Avondale”

I bet she’s seen a lot of dick. Every type of guy who she bags in the column have probably been through her and then ghosted her.

Imagine if Dime wrote a column about online skanks for the Herald? Id probably end up in prison.

Man the Herald is one sad institution. thank god its almost dead. are they up to 90% clickbait?
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July 20, 2018 9:18am
- MCos
  
  It’s not going to die off as long as people like you keep reading it.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:22am
  - dime
    
    define read? I go to the main site. skim headlines and click on fuck all. maybe 2 things a day?! usually sport.
    
    my usage of that site is down 90% in the last 2 years.
    
    I wouldn’t like to take that sorta hit in my business.
    
    And we know they aren’t doing well. They wanted to merge with stuff ffs
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:35am
  - stephieboy
    
    MCos , the Hooreld vital daily consumption fare for a great many rightie posters here.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:39am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Not me. Never go near the crap. But then maybe I’m not so”rightie”….
      
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      July 20, 2018 2:25pm
- VicParking
  
  Lady Avondale is the Tooth Fairies nom de plume.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:39am
- Awww C-mon
  
  One of the better things I’ve read!
  
  But yeah, think of the like a virgin scene from reservoir dogs.
  
  Dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:41am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Even her cartoon profile pic has her wearing problem glasses❗
  
  I’ve seen these types before – treat her to a nice slap-up meal followed by a pornstar martini, tell her how bad Trump is and how most men are bigots.
  
  Take her to her place, put her away, make your excuses then leave – never to be seen again.
  
  I feel sorry for her however – she’s the product of a Marxist education and a degenerate *popular* culture that seĺls smoke and lies to impressionable young minds.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:42am
Dave Stringer

Back on the subject of trees for a moment, I’m delighted to see the following:-

“Meanwhile, the Tindall Foundation is funding Trees that Count, an initiative that has planted almost 20 million native trees in the past two years.”

By Monday I expect Mr. Jones to have claimed these are part of his quota!

The quote is from today’s Horrid article online.
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July 20, 2018 9:24am
Rodney Randall

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-adopts-divisive-law-declares-only-jews-have-right-self-n892636

“Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and they have an exclusive right to national self-determination in it.”

“The bill also strips Arabic of its designation as an official language alongside Hebrew, downgrading it to a “special status” that enables its continued use within Israeli institutions.”

“Largely ‘symbolic’ ?”
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July 20, 2018 9:24am
- ztev
  
  Just another step in the ladder….
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:38am
- stephieboy
  
  Rodney Randall, tantalizing prospect making NZ Pakeha only?
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:41am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Good morning Stephanie.
    Sharia Free Nz!
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:20am
- DigNap15
  
  That’s what we need here, strip Maori (Te Reo) as an official language and make it a special status as a cermenional language only.
  
  And ban Jack Tame from using it!
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:47am
starboard

Mark Mitchell, one to watch. I put 50 on the table that he roles soyman next year and becomes PM at next election.
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July 20, 2018 9:28am
- dime
  
  yeah definitely has potential. my local MP. good dude. ex-cop. maybe a dog handler?
  
  The will resonate well with the westie man!
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:37am
  - stephieboy
    
    dime , wear jackboots too?
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:42am
    - dime
      
      shouldn’t you be at st lukes getting material for your spank bank?
      
      “the teenage girl looked lovely in her ninja suit. you could just see she had curvy hips and an ample bosom”
      
      you’re creepy as shit.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:45am
      - stephieboy
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        dime, why does the fairer sex disgust you?
        
        Time to be outed?
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:47am
      - dime
        
        “dime, why does the fairer sex disgust you?”
        
        lol it’s creepy little sex pests that disgust me.
        
        the fact that you make my skin crawl, id hate to think how you make women feel.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:52am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        I studied enough psychology to recognise a person with serious psycho-sexual issues. One day if (when) you no longer post, we will know why.
        
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        July 20, 2018 2:34pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Nah, but I’m sure we can arrange that so you could get off on the image. God, you are pathetic.
      
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      July 20, 2018 2:30pm
  - RF
    
    Yep……. Mark was a Delta boy. Also did a stint overseas sorting out terrorists so well suited to clean a few clocks in the Labour cabinet.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:50am
  - oldgolfer
    
    He’s got the chat, the Kiwi I-can-do-it image, too.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:36am
- Poppa
  
  I could live with that too.
  
  Simon just doesn’t cut it I am afraid
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:39am
  - dime
    
    I think by the time the next election comes round and people are pining for John Key.. Mark has that aura about him.
    
    Also, it will be funny to watch whale cry
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:53am
  - Paulus
    
    Makes no difference to me I will still make two blue ticks first.
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:20pm
Manolo

Unkind words about Biden, the clown:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-joe-biden-dream-opponent-2020-election-jeff-glor-interview/
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July 20, 2018 9:29am
ztev

Trump is in more shit over Helsinki
‘”The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is ready for practical implementation of the agreements reached between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump in the sphere of international security achieved at the Helsinki summit,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, a Russian military spokesman, said in a statement Tuesday.”

There were ‘agreements’ ? Did Trump make further concessions during his long private talks with Putin?
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July 20, 2018 9:35am
- dime
  
  this could be the straw… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:38am
Debbie

Well I think houseprices are on the move again.

My ANZ banking app has their estimated valuation for my house as mortgage security. After being stagnant for months, it hopped up 20k two weeks ago….. then another 23k this week. Obviously I haven’t done any major renovations in the past month to affect the value, seems more likely that the market is finally realising that Kiwibuild won’t provide the millions of cheap houses that were promised.
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July 20, 2018 9:36am
- VicParking
  
  It’s a ploy by the neighbors to get you to sell up and leave.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:43am
  - Debbie
    
    Unlikely, my neighbours bring me fruit from their trees and we help each other with the gardens/feed each other’s pets. No intention of going anywhere, anytime soon.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:49am
- dime
  
  it does feel like its bounced. i reckon my place is back to where it was.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:55am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Yup, can’t keep a market artificially down. Interesting thing is that homes.co.nz and trademe insights have ranges that are quite a bit lower than the bank’s value, so it will be interesting to see if they change at months end. Ahh, the pleasure of making a cool Million simply sitting on one’s chuff while the lefties get hysterical about the homeless.
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:46pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  where is that part of the App? I use ANZ.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:36pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Found it thanks
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:38pm
starboard

Breaking news…

“Far-right Canadian speakers Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux granted visas”
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July 20, 2018 9:37am
KevinH

Breaking news:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105625016/farright-canadian-speakers-lauren-southern-and-stefan-molyneux-granted-visas
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July 20, 2018 9:44am
- stephieboy
  
  Good news in more ways than one and I’m sure a venue will be found other than an Auckland City council one.
  
  However, it is my belief that a great many of those attending do not have a genuine commitment to free speech as discussed on KB recently and before.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:53am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Eden park?
    
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    July 21, 2018 2:30pm
- Debbie
  
  So how do I get tickets?
  
  Am definitely keen to go.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:05am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Ask one of your neighbours! (Just kidding, you dont always appreciate how good your neighbours are until you get a shit set)
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:46am
    - Debbie
      
      Oh believe me, I’ve had bad ones before!!
      
      Thankfully owner-occupied in every side now- so they should all be sticking around for a while 🙂
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:25pm
EAD_TWO

hahaha

https://mobile.twitter.com/TOOAJoyce/status/1019901782896599040
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July 20, 2018 9:50am
- stephieboy
  
  hahaha
  
  Unsurprisingly Joyce too is a notoriously vile anti-Jewish and Black campaigner,
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/TOOAJoyce
  
  Birds of feather stuff.
  
  LOL
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:57am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    He campaigned for Blacks?
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:59am
Keeping Stock

So, the views of Ms Southern and Mr Molyneux are “repugnant to this Government and run counter to the kind and tolerant values of the vast majority of New Zealanders” says Iain Lees-Galloway.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/controversial-speakers-granted-visas-despite-repugnant-views/

I have news for Mr Lees-Galloway. The views of him and his government towards industrial relations in New Zealand are repugnant to many of us who run businesses. For example, having union representatives being able to enter my premises and stop my staff from doing the job I pay them for without even having the courtesy to notify me runs “counter to the kind and tolerant values of the vast majority of New Zealanders” who own and manage small businesses.

Labour has tried its damnedest to keep Southern and Molyneux out of New Zealand, even using its proxy Phil Goff. That they have failed is good news, and should be welcomed by “the vast majority of New Zealanders”, to quote Iain Lees-Galloway.
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July 20, 2018 9:59am
- stephieboy
  
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  KS , the facts are the Immigration Minister has no legal basis to preclude them however repugnant he or anyone else finds their views.
  
  Your rant about Industrial relations is irrelevant. under the circumstances.
  
  But as I’ve mentioned many of those attending their meeting or support them do not themselves have a genuine commitment to free speech. Who would, for example, much prefer Mulsim immigration banned and Mosques etc closed down.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:09am
  - Inandout
    
    Given the chance, the vast majority of kiwis would want this despicable Muslim religion permanently removed.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:15am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “Who would, for example, much prefer Mulsim immigration banned and Mosques etc closed down.”
    
    Me, for one.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:17am
    - DigNap15
      
      Me too.
      And a free flight out of here for all of the ones that managed to get here!
      
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      July 20, 2018 2:41pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Stephie – my “rant” about industrial relations is because Lees-Galloway has chosen to editorialise the decision to grant visas, by putting an inflammatory spin on it.
    
    So I did likewise 😀
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:18am
    - stephieboy
      
      KS, all Lee Gollawy stated who had no legal basis to prevent them coming here even if he found their views repugnant ( as I do too )
      
      Whats inflammatory about that?
      
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      July 20, 2018 11:03am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        How do you mangle Lees-Galloway into ‘Lee Gollawy’?
        Were you distracted by your gollywog?
        
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        July 20, 2018 11:58am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Capt M, I think SB is typing one handed while choking his chicken.
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:26pm
- Inandout
  
  ‘Kind and tolerant’, so long as you do as you are told. This wanker went to Kings College, attended Massey Uni, then got a publicity position with the unions. So his CV says he has never had a real job yet this prick decides on who can, or can’t, visit NZ. The good people of Palmerston North should look into the mirror and curse themselves that this man got the Labour vote. Next election he will quietly slip into the List role, as will many other Labour MPs when they are likely dumped by the voters.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:12am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Indeed; his background prior to politics was as an organiser for the NZ Nurses Organisation.
    
    Sadly, the influence of Massey University with its thousands of students and academics makes Palmerston North one of the few provincial cities in New Zealand to be held by Labour.
    
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    July 20, 2018 10:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout, petulant and infantile ingratitude!
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:04am
  - doggone7
    
    Next thing you’ll be saying the only people who have “real jobs” are those who do things like plant potatoes. Or maybe employ people to plant spuds.
    
    Define what a “real job” is.
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:33am
  - Paulus
    
    I assume that there is no longer a Parliamentary Stenographer in the picture now that he is an important Minister ?
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:24pm
- kowtow
  
  #notmygubmint
  
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  July 20, 2018 12:28pm
dime

South Korea – 500,000 evil wacists sign a petition saying “fuck no to Muslim immigration!”

the humanity!
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July 20, 2018 10:27am
- stephieboy
  
  dime , as I have stated people like you do not have a genuine commitment to free speech. if you, Inandout and KS etc had your way.
  
  If you all did we would all be the poorer for it.
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:07am
  - dime
    
    that makes fuck all sense sex pest!
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:27am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Stephie – I support free speech. I respect the way DPF runs his blog, and I also respect his right to intervene when people cross boundaries. On some occasions, I have even agreed with things that you have said.
    
    I agree that we would be all the poorer without freedom of speech. That’s why I am pleased that Iain Lees-Galloway (not the spelling; it’s not Lee Gollawy) has accepted that he did not have any justification for refusing visas to Ms Southern and Mr Molyneux.
    
    That does not mean that I endorse their views. Before this story broke I had never heard of either, but over the weekend I will be watching the Farmlands documentary. I welcome the legal action against Phil Goff and others; it will be interesting to see if Goff acted unlawfully. In the meantime, I suggest that our Canadian visitors will now be looking at a larger venue than the Bruce Mason Centre, and they will thank Mr Goff and Mr Lees-Galloway for the free advertising they have unwittingly provided.
    
    Have a nice day 😀
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:33am
    - KevinH
      
      K.S. I am of the same opinion. I may not agree with the views of Southern and Molyneux but that is no excuse to limit their freedom to express those views.
      I have watched Southern’s You Tube clips and found them to be controversial but not really outrageous as some media commentators have complained. For instance one clip recorded in Australia had Southern on the street asking people whether they would kill her for her views. Surprisingly most who were approached didn’t recognise her and said they would’nt kill her anyway. Thats not to say that you would get an almost opposite reaction in say Saudi or Iran.
      Molyneux is a classic chauvinist who does use inflammatory language and would be the speaker who would more than likely incite a reaction from protestors.
      Personally I won’t be going to see either of them, I know where they are coming from and respect their opinions.
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:06pm
    - UpandComer
      
      I endorse their views.
      
      https://www.rt.com/news/433655-israel-nation-state-law-passsed/
      
      Here is Israel – a definitive ethno-religio state and all non-Jews are now officially second class citizens. Doesn’t matter if you’re an Arab who has been there for generations.
      
      Turns out I have a Jewish Great grandmother. That must account for my penchant for ze English Language. I’ll out wizard any verbal satrap in a word spinning contest, in Ze England lang’uage.
      
      I endorse that model. They’re setting the precedent. The US to be limited to the posterity.
      
      Europe to be limited to Europeans.
      
      Australia and NZ to be limited to descendents of the original settlors and natives. We’ll allow heathens to stay if they convert to Christianity and burn their holy books in front of us.
      
      It’s going to be a real mess – but unfortunately this is what happens in diverse societies where the minorities refuse to assimilate and impose Gladstone’s tyranny of the minority. And that’s the point. Diversity and Melting Pot theory are cultural marxist inventions designed to carve societies up for the benefit of the Vic Alhadeefs.
      
      https://twitter.com/vicalhadeff?lang=en
      
      Look into their sordid spectral glinting eyes. Do you think they’re ever going to give up their ‘rights’ to honour kill and sit on welfare and rape etc? To spin intricate webs and snares that destroy their political opposition? The protected attribute theory? The anti-speech laws? Not ever. Here is what will happen instead:
      
      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/netherlands-muslim-politician-says-if-dutch-people-dont-like-a-changing-netherlands-they-should-get-lost
      
      Muslim MP in the Netherlands says Dutch people who don’t like the Netherlands should self-deport.
      
      Ahahahahaha.
      
      I look forward to the time coming not so far away when there are no muslims anymore in the Netherlands.
      
      They insist on ensuring NZ not take anymore. And we shouldn’t. We should adopt the measure of our Samoan cousins and simply ban it. Ah, I love Samoa. If you rape Samoans’ sisters they cave your face in. They can be the Christian vanguard against Judeo Islam.
      
      https://www.rt.com/uk/433484-richard-dawkins-islamophobia-tweet/
      Atheists are welcome too of course. I see Dawkins is starting to recant his heresy. Yay!
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riUA1khxs68
      
      Have you heard of the court of miracles? It’s the new leftist version of court.
      
      Maybe you’ve heard of a terrible place where the scoundrels and pirates collect so beware
      Maybe you’ve heard of a mythical place called the court of miracles, hello you’re there!
      
      Where the lame can walk.
      And the blind can see.
      But the dead don’t talk.
      So you won’t be allowed to reveal what you found!
      
      We have a method for spies and intruders that rather like Hornets protecting their Hide!
      Here in the cooourts of miracles where it’s a miracle if you get out alive!
      
      It’s going to be the leftist Jacobin Court of Miracles for all, but with no Esmeralda, and I will and my brothers will be residing.
      
      Because in the left’s court, if you don’t have any protected attributes, the truth doesn’t matter! and you have to die for your race to prevent racism! Wunderbar! So that’s the precedent. HLA Hart followers ‘always’ observe precedent.
      
      Gather round everybody! There’s good ‘noose’ tonight!
      
      The justice is swift in the court of miracles, I am the lawyers and judge, all in one!
      We like to get the trial over with quickly because it’s the sentence that’s really the fun!
      
      Any last words? ‘mphhmmphhmmmmhmm’
      
      ‘That’s what they all say!!!’
      
      Now that we’ve seen all the evid.. ‘I object!’ overruled ‘Quiet!’ Dang.
      
      We find you totally innocent. Which is the worse crime of all….
      
      So you’re going to hang!
      
      hahahaha I love Don Bluth Disney. I will be channelling Clopin. He knew the SJW mind so well. So he was booted out.
      
      Man wouldn’t it be awful if I became a judge.
      
      “If people can be disemployed for refusing to believe that gender is self-determined or that one group of people murdered a specific number of a different group of people in the 20th century, then they can certainly be disemployed, or even deported, for refusing to believe that God exists and Jesus Christ is Lord”.
      
      Leftist scum. We’re not locked in here with you.
      
      You, scum, are locked in here with us.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTtETj3MtzA
      
      And we’re keeping a big book of grudges about what you orcs and goblins are doing in your little hides.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL7pBMxdX6o
      
      So you should be keeping freedom of speech for your own protection. Because once it’s gone, you aren’t going to like what happens.
      
      Because muslims includes judeo-muslims now. You chose. You chose them.
      
      There is a new generation of right wing young men. We want the pink mist. Give us the excuse.
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:52pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There’s about 100,000 Muslim S.Korean citizens.
  Probably some 10s of thousands working/studying Muslims in S. Korea.
  
  https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2017/11/muslims-south-korea-171114104611451.html
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:17am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    .2%
    
    Good place to keep it.
    
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    July 20, 2018 12:08pm
    - stephieboy
      
      There you are a full-on commitment to “tolerance, goodwill and open-mindedness”!
      
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      July 20, 2018 12:20pm
Rodney Randall

Is Ian Lees Galloway in support of the NZ HRC’s submission (In Relation to the 21st and 22nd Periodic Review of NZ under the Convention of the Elimination of all Forms of Racial Discrimination) to the UNHCR, to expand the powers of Section 61 to include blasphemy laws protecting Islam/Muslims from criticism??

Did this submission get the Minister’s approval?
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July 20, 2018 10:30am
- paul scott
  
  I tried to get some response sympathetic and meaningful from Lees-Galloway about white S.A farmers.
  I received an offhand obtuse response several times.
  I regard him as a very bad Minister and person.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:34pm
Keeping Stock

Even the economists are starting to see past Grant Robertson’s bluster and pixie dust:

The Infometrics analysis released last night is far from a glowing endorsement of this Government’s economic management and shows that it must act to improve declining economic forecasts and plummeting business confidence, National’s Finance spokesperson Amy Adams says.

“Infometrics is now predicting GDP growth of only 2 per cent per year between now and 2021, well below the 3 per cent forecast by Treasury in Budget 2018. Lower GDP growth means fewer opportunities, lower wage growth and a lower standard of living for New Zealanders.

“This pessimistic forecast from Infometrics follows the recent below forecast GDP numbers as well as downgrades in expectations from most of the major bank economists.

“The worryingly low levels of business confidence and own activity highlighted by Infometrics show that the global economy is currently the only thing propping up growth, with both plummeting under this Government.

“There is simply nothing this Government has done that is pro-growth or good for business investment. Its low-growth policies hamper the economy’s ability to create opportunities, grow jobs and lift wages which will have a big effect on whether a business invests in that new piece of machinery or hires that extra staff member.

“The Government inherited a buoyant economy and seem to just expect that growth is inevitable and will continue to increase no matter what policies they implement. This is not the case.

https://www.national.org.nz/new_report_shows_government_slowing_economy

Steven Joyce was widely ridiculed last year when he talked about the fiscal hole in Labour’s numbers. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that Joyce was right about the hole, even though even he underestimated the depth of it.

Addictions can only be cured when the addict acknowledges the addiction, then does something about it. Likewise Grant Robertson needs to finally admit that things are not as rosy as he would like under his stewardship, before he can even hope to turn anything around.

Unfortunately for him, his colleagues made so many promises before the election that he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of delivering on even a small portion of them.
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July 20, 2018 10:58am
- Poppa
  
  No problem KS this a small issue which I am sure Robbo has in hand.
  
  It is called borrowing….heaps
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:49am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    Nah, you don’t need to borrow when the Gweeens have a money printer or three ready to fire up and start churning out free money for everyone!!!
    
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    July 20, 2018 12:44pm
Fletch

‘Duck Dynasty’ Phil points out that Trump is in a hard place, with liars on both the left and right – both Putin and the lying Intelligence Community.

https://www.facebook.com/CRTV/videos/902994043218878/

John Nolte from Breitbart goes down the list of “dirty cops” – Mueller, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, etc.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/19/nolte-watch-the-oh-so-sacred-intelligence-community-lie-lie-lie/

Heck, Brennan even voted for the Communist Party in the 1980s, which is why Rand Paul filibustered him.
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July 20, 2018 11:19am
labrator

Can someone help me out here? Did ztev just admit he’s a woman who slept with whaleoil?

I had a lot of fun with Slater the other day.. who now remembers his betrayal of his wife for some floozie…me !
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July 20, 2018 11:19am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Pass the mind bleach – quickly!
  
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  July 20, 2018 11:37am
- MrTips
  
  Is ztev claiming to be Debbie Brown? Bizarre if true.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10813552
  
  I find that hard to believe. DPF pays far too much attention to ztev’s comments for it to be someone like her.
  
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  July 20, 2018 1:28pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Nah re-read it. The “me” refers to the person doing the remembering ( i.e ztev) not the person being harpooned.
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:01pm
MCos

Tweet of the day

‘What kind of world are we leaving for Keith Richards?’
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July 20, 2018 11:27am
Fletch

The plastic straw alarmism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=513EnQlwRfs

The 500 million used straws a day comes from the project of some 9 year old and isn’t true. Plus, paper straws cost 4 times as much. Banning straws won’t actually accomplish anything.
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July 20, 2018 12:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, but environment-friendly ones will.
  
  Agreed?
  
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  July 20, 2018 1:41pm
graham

Sadly, idiots resort to threats of violence.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12092335

A group opposing the New Zealand visit by two controversial Canadians accused of hate speech say they are being threatened on social media.

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Auckland Peace Action group are among those opposing the pair’s visit, with spokeswoman Valerie Morse saying she had been receiving “threats of violence from neo-Nazis for speaking up against the visit of these two racists”.

I think most people will agree that threatening somebody, especially when violence is involved, is wrong. End of story.

By the way, remember that Valerie Morse is the woman who set light to the NZ flag at Wellington’s Anzac Day dawn parade as some form of protest. Interestingly, her lawyers argued that her conviction was criminal punishment for expressing ideas …
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July 20, 2018 12:43pm
realityczech

A study that fits with empirical evidence and the most casual observation. KB being a fantastic example of this.

Religion Makes Children More Selfish, Say Scientists

Why are religious people less moral? One factor is a psychological phenomenon known as ‘moral licensing’: a person will justify doing something bad or immoral – like being racist – because they’ve already done something ‘good’, such as praying.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2015/11/05/religion-morality/#2b44e1877aea
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July 20, 2018 12:46pm
- UpandComer
  
  Lol.
  
  http://www.unz.com/article/are-atheists-genetic-mutants-a-product-of-recent-evolution/
  
  Atheism is a mild form of autism and a literal genetic mutation.
  
  Don’t include Christians in your fake science.
  
  ‘moral licensing’ lol. I can make up words and fit them to anything as well.
  
  Christians don’t do bad things, if they don’t do a bad thing, because they fear eternal hell fire and because they’re constantly fighting their concupiscence. If they do bad things, they know they’ve done a bad thing.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg
  
  Lol these childrens movies man. They are goldmines. Don Bluth was a true fellow traveller. Do you think the authors of these movies are vapid atheists? They certainly believe in evil if not the oppositional.
  
  Moral licensing sounds like the kind of utilitarian nickle and diming that a mutant autistic unsymmetrical unfit unclean atheist mind would engage in. In fact, it exactly fits.
  
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  July 20, 2018 1:13pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Don’t get me wrong. Atheists are allies now.
    
    Look at Sam Francis and Richard Dawkins now lol. Talking about their love of church bells. Boy that is a sea-change.
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:10pm
  - realityczech
    
    Uppity, sorry buddy but your absurd beliefs are a based on a multilation of the Jewish bible. The Jews were around at the time of Jesus and record Jesus as a homosexual bastard son of a whore.
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:19pm
    - MrTips
      
      You’ve got serious issues buddy
      
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      July 20, 2018 5:34pm
      - realityczech
        
        No heaven for you Tipsy. They don’t take your sort there.
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:01pm
- mandk
  
  This is a bit rich coming from someone of your turpitude, Kea.
  
  Is it your atheistic moral licensing that enables you to say disgusting things like:
  
  “New Zealand never had to suffer an infestation of Jews”
  
  “… filthy yid animals”
  
  “If the Jew does not like it here it can crawl back to its nest in Israel …”
  
  and
  
  “the Jew and its ways”?
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    It is your theistic moral licensing that allows you to partake in an orgy of hate and persecution against Muslims on a daily basis.
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:23pm
    - mandk
      
      That’s the fourth time you have libelled me on KB without substantiating your claims.
      
      But I’ll give you yet another chance: show me where I have partaken in an orgy of hate and persecution against Muslims.
      
      I freely admit that I believe Islam to be an evil religion. But I think Muslims are victims of it. I don’t hate them. And I certainly don’t persecute them.
      
      So, come on, Kea, put up or shut up.
      
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      July 20, 2018 6:42pm
    - realityczech
      
      Point out where you have called out people critical of Muslims.
      
      Never happens. No principles or morals. Ordinary dull bigot.
      
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      July 20, 2018 6:48pm
      - mandk
        
        Nothing to support your libelous comments, then?
        
        Well, there wouldn’t be, because your accusations are completely baseless.
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        As is your babbling about the Jews and your pathetic attempts to hide your religious bigotry. At least others have the guts to be open about their thoughts. You are an evil little sleaze.
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:21pm
      - mandk
        
        Is that the best you can do, kea?
        
        Your bile must have leaked into your blood stream and addled your brain.
        
        I am open about my thoughts. See my 6.42: “I freely admit that I believe Islam to be an evil religion.”
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:31pm
      - realityczech
        
        I freely admit all Abrahamic religions are evil. Guess where your hated Islam came from? Hint: The Jew
        
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        July 21, 2018 6:59am
UpandComer

I like this comment so I’ll do it here:

I endorse their views.

https://www.rt.com/news/433655-israel-nation-state-law-passsed/

Here is Israel – a definitive ethno-religio state and all non-Jews are now officially second class citizens. Doesn’t matter if you’re an Arab who has been there for generations.

Turns out I have a Jewish Great grandmother. That must account for my penchant for ze English Language. I’ll out wizard any verbal satrap in a word spinning contest, in Ze England lang’uage.

I endorse that model. They’re setting the precedent. The US to be limited to the posterity.

Europe to be limited to Europeans.

Australia and NZ to be limited to descendents of the original settlors and natives. We’ll allow heathens to stay if they convert to Christianity and burn their holy books in front of us.

It’s going to be a real mess – but unfortunately this is what happens in diverse societies where the minorities refuse to assimilate and impose Gladstone’s tyranny of the minority. And that’s the point. Diversity and Melting Pot theory are cultural marxist inventions designed to carve societies up for the benefit of the Vic Alhadeefs.

https://twitter.com/vicalhadeff?lang=en

Look into their sordid spectral glinting eyes. Do you think they’re ever going to give up their ‘rights’ to honour kill and sit on welfare and rape etc? To spin intricate webs and snares that destroy their political opposition? The protected attribute theory? The anti-speech laws? Not ever. Here is what will happen instead:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/netherlands-muslim-politician-says-if-dutch-people-dont-like-a-changing-netherlands-they-should-get-lost

Muslim MP in the Netherlands says Dutch people who don’t like the Netherlands should self-deport.

Ahahahahaha.

I look forward to the time coming not so far away when there are no muslims anymore in the Netherlands.

They insist on ensuring NZ not take anymore. And we shouldn’t. We should adopt the measure of our Samoan cousins and simply ban it. Ah, I love Samoa. If you rape Samoans’ sisters they cave your face in. They can be the Christian vanguard against Judeo Islam.

https://www.rt.com/uk/433484-richard-dawkins-islamophobia-tweet/
Atheists are welcome too of course. I see Dawkins is starting to recant his heresy. Yay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riUA1khxs68

Have you heard of the court of miracles? It’s the new leftist version of court.

Maybe you’ve heard of a terrible place where the scoundrels and pirates collect so beware
Maybe you’ve heard of a mythical place called the court of miracles, hello you’re there!

Where the lame can walk.
And the blind can see.
But the dead don’t talk.
So you won’t be allowed to reveal what you found!

We have a method for spies and intruders that rather like Hornets protecting their Hide!
Here in the cooourts of miracles where it’s a miracle if you get out alive!

It’s going to be the leftist Jacobin Court of Miracles for all, but with no Esmeralda, and I will and my brothers will be residing.

Because in the left’s court, if you don’t have any protected attributes, the truth doesn’t matter! and you have to die for your race to prevent racism! Wunderbar! So that’s the precedent. HLA Hart followers ‘always’ observe precedent.

Gather round everybody! There’s good ‘noose’ tonight!

The justice is swift in the court of miracles, I am the lawyers and judge, all in one!
We like to get the trial over with quickly because it’s the sentence that’s really the fun!

Any last words? ‘mphhmmphhmmmmhmm’

‘That’s what they all say!!!’

Now that we’ve seen all the evid.. ‘I object!’ overruled ‘Quiet!’ Dang.

We find you totally innocent. Which is the worse crime of all….

So you’re going to hang!

hahahaha I love Don Bluth Disney. I will be channelling Clopin. He knew the SJW mind so well. So he was booted out.

Man wouldn’t it be awful if I became a judge.

“If people can be disemployed for refusing to believe that gender is self-determined or that one group of people murdered a specific number of a different group of people in the 20th century, then they can certainly be disemployed, or even deported, for refusing to believe that God exists and Jesus Christ is Lord”.

Leftist scum. We’re not locked in here with you.

You, scum, are locked in here with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTtETj3MtzA

And we’re keeping a big book of grudges about what you orcs and goblins are doing in your little hides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL7pBMxdX6o

So you should be keeping freedom of speech for your own protection. Because once it’s gone, you aren’t going to like what happens.

Because muslims includes judeo-muslims now. You chose. You chose them.

There is a new generation of right wing young men. We want the pink mist. Give us the excuse.
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July 20, 2018 1:06pm
- paul scott
  
  My opinion upandcomer is that the front line will be older men , We have less to lose.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:50pm
sooty

I see the Police commissioner said that 44% of the ferals exported from aussie have re offended here. Disgusting!
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July 20, 2018 1:08pm
- DigNap15
  
  as low as that?
  What have they all got a job?
  I hope so, and I hope they turn their lives around.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:38pm
- starboard
  
  Shock horror..didnt see that comin.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:15pm
Inandout

Well goodness gracious me, a Muslim talking head said bringing those Canadians over here would upset his NZ flock. I say bring it on and I also hope Valerie Morse sets herself (rather than our flag) alight.
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July 20, 2018 1:08pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I heard that.
  Well I didn’t invite him here, or any other muslims here.
  So they can just go back!
  We have to watch these muslim/islam organisations, they get a bit stronger and stronger the more of them come here, and they demand more and more.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:37pm
Rodney Randall

FIANZ are “very sad and gutted” that Lauren and Stefan have been granted VISAS.

“They will cause great offence”
New Zealand Federation of Islamic Associations’ President Hazim Arafeh needs a tissue!?

“The moment you say that any idea system is sacred, whether it’s a religious belief system or a secular ideology, the moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible” Salman Rushdie

P.S. Valerie Morse has gone into victimhood overdrive!
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July 20, 2018 1:17pm
- Philview
  
  I recall a time when a lady and a few hundred mates could have a laugh in a forest doing commando and small arms training. Where is the sense of humour these days?
  
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  July 20, 2018 1:28pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Philview , the sense of humour the alt-right kind e.g ,
    
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/489696159469335423/
    
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    July 20, 2018 1:43pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Funny isn’t it, a so called “peace” activist turns out to be rather fond of firearms, Molotov cocktails and commando training.
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:31pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Yes, I think that’s the health and safety issue Phil Goff was “concerned” about.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:05pm
- UpandComer
  
  Lol.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBXU8-P5EY4
  
  I’ve found it.
  
  They’re all Jaffars.
  
  No one is bowing to the Judeo Muslims.
  
  This is it. They want everyone to bow to their feelings. The sultanate of the Judeo-Islamists’ precious feelings.
  
  We don’t live in Agribah. We live in New Zealand.
  
  That’s going in the meme factory.
  
  All the Judeo-muslims need to do is stop trying to destroy every single society they’re ever part of. With their rape, and their welfare habits, and their destruction of the enlightenment. Can someone tell me what benefit this group provide NZ at all? Tell me. What benefit do we ultimately get from their august presence in NZ? Beyond threats to destroy our traditions and ethics and free speech and lots of net transfers to them?
  
  Christians haven’t gotten angry, like, really angry, in generations.
  
  It’s coming.
  
  Maybe I need to start sharing copies of the Rotherham Royal Commission Report everywhere.
  
  These people raped 1 million little English girls since 1980 in England. I haven’t forgotten.
  
  I’m not just offended about that. I’m more then offended about that.
  
  Now they want to take away free speech in NZ.
  
  Not a good idea my fellow semites. Just carry on with your business and enjoy being here. Or, keep subverting.
  
  Why can’t they just stop? Jesus Christ. Just ‘stop’. Just be happy to be here. No one cares what you do as long as you’re a definitive minority below 1% and you just be dignified.
  
  Good lord what the hell is wrong with these people? NZ is as good as it gets. And still, they complain and agitate and subvert and draw attention to themselves.
  
  Just stop. Just at least pretend that you actually believe in diversity instead of force.
  
  For all my agitation – I just want the status quo.
  
  How extreme. I just want roughly the status quo in NZ. Gee, punch a fricken Nazi aye.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:07pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    But I like Judeo-muslims. They are my very favourite imaginary creatures.
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:10pm
- Justitia
  
  So Fianz think they can determine who comes into New Zealand? Their arrogance is off the scale. The Left have encouraged these expectations by ceaseless pandering. Let’s ensure this case marks a watershed.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:00pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Let’s do this?
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:18pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  So I’ll offend them a bit more. Feast your eyes on this, fuckers
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:06pm
paul scott

Report on Free Tommy Robinson July 19th
Tommy Robinsons case for improper arrest and sentencing has been heard by
Sir Ian Burnett, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, and two other high ranking Justices.
Ezra Levant of Rebel Media organized the legal team and costs
He thinks that Tommy will be released with conditions of release.
Decision due late this month or early August
It is believed that this decision will have profound effects on future cases of what is basically politically motivated imprisonment.
Ezra also stated that too many Brits have passively accepted the new Orwellian structure in Britain..
He received donations from all round the world, mostly small.
Tommy ’s family and Ezra Levant from Rebel Media thank all of us who supported and/or donated to this pivotal case.
Many of you will know also that the news of the Molyneux and Southern legal case has travelled rapidly throughout the world.
The New Zealand case has big impact because people say >> Right that’s what’s happening in New Zealand.
The New Zealanders are standing up. It can be done. Each success that we have in the Fight for freedom of expression is important
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July 20, 2018 2:16pm
paul scott

We know what upandcomer means . I am waiting for the right time to pose the question to Ezra Levant and Daniel Greenfield.
The Jewish problem is real,
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July 20, 2018 2:22pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  The struggle is real, brah…
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:01pm
Morrissey

May a Tsunami Engulf the Tormentors of the Martyred People of Gaza

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/07/19/may-a-tsunami-engulf-the-tormentors-of-the-martyred-people-of-gaza/
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July 20, 2018 2:32pm
- Morrissey
  
  Whoever downticked Professor Finkelstein’s post can rot in Hell along with the cowardly and brutal snipers of the IDF.
  
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  July 20, 2018 2:51pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Morrissey:
    
    Professor Finkelstein’s post
    
    We care about your welfare here at Kiwiblog, Morrissey, so here’s something that you need to focus on: Research check: do neckties reduce blood supply to the brain?
    
    Do you wear a necktie when you’re transcribing radio broadcasts at home?
    
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    July 20, 2018 2:58pm
    - paul scott
      
      I think the necktie is the least of the problems Nostra
      
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      July 20, 2018 3:03pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Rather than worring about Morrissey’s neckties, Nostra, I wondered whether you had any comment about paul scott coming out with his ‘Jewish problem is real’.
      As our archivist, had he been hiding his Jew-obsession light under a bushel of general craziness?
      
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      July 20, 2018 3:04pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Please explain, Mike. I’m not sure what you’re talking about here.
        
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        July 20, 2018 3:11pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Mike:
        
        Paul Scott used to blog as PQ:
        
        In case people wil not understand, I am Paul Scott, signed up member NZ First and I mean business
        
        He has Thai connections so lots in common with Starboard. Remember he used to bring up “Bangkok Wan” all the time?
        
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        July 20, 2018 3:17pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        paul scott’s 2.22 pm comment, Morrissey
        
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        July 20, 2018 3:17pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Thanks Nostra.
        
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        July 20, 2018 3:19pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Oh my God! Yes I do. Thanks for the warning, Nostradamus, my foresighted friend.
      
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      July 20, 2018 3:10pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    IDF snipers , some of the best around. As an aside, I was trained to use a Galil, developed and manufactured in Israel. Lovely weapon, accurate easy to use, reliable, kind of thing you know is going to be there when having to off terrorists and commie bastards.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Galil
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:12pm
    - Morrissey
      
      You’re joking I know, but the murder and maiming of peaceful protestors is no joke.
      
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      July 20, 2018 3:14pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        I agree that the murder and maiming of peaceful protestors is no joke and the IDF have probably not done everything in their power to prevent civilians getting killed. The problem is when a group of insurgents, or freedom fighters or guerilla fighters use civilians as a shield against regular troops, who they know, in most cases will not engage for fear of killing civilians. Angola, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, there are countless examples. And often the civilians do not have much choice in this. In the Gaza – Israel conflict, there are atrocities committed by both sides, it’s a lose-lose situation and mostly women and children will suffer on both sides. But then show me any conflict in humanities history where atrocities have not occurred, and where the suffering of the innocents has not occurred.
        
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        July 20, 2018 3:42pm
      - Morrissey
        
        ….the IDF have probably not done everything in their power to prevent civilians getting killed.
        
        In the same way, in the 1940s, people like you wrote sentences like this:
        
        ….the Landwehr have probably not done everything in their power to prevent civilians getting killed.
        
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        July 20, 2018 5:52pm
    - realityczech
      
      “IDF snipers , some of the best around. ”
      
      So the best they have shoot kids in the guts from behind the wire.
      
      Sounds about right for that diseased nation of Israel.
      
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      July 20, 2018 6:05pm
- mandk
  
  Yes, martyred by Hamas.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:33pm
cmm

Are NZPost next to go on strike? There service is getting suckier and suckier.

Courier parcel picked up yesterday morning is still sitting in their accepting depot a few km away from where it was picked up.

I was hoping I might see it in Chch today – doesn’t look like it.
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July 20, 2018 2:32pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  There was a bulletin on the radio last night about Courier Post drivers, and their employment status. Seems that NZ Post pretends they are independent contractors. So do the other courier companies, although only NZ Post was prepared to come on radio and attempt to explain.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:15pm
- Que Sera Sera
  
  It is a case of lack of scanning at all different points.
  
  However, I suspect you will get the parcel delivered today, Friday.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:40pm
graham

Female columnist tells men how they should feel and act, ends by telling us she doesn’t want men to tell her how to feel. Apparently without any sense of irony.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/105633418/michelle-duff-we-dont-need-men-telling-us-how-to-metoo

She does, however, come up with a variation of the “stale, pale, and male” mantra that seems to be perfectly acceptable in a society that howls with indignation at any other form of singling people out according to their age, skin colour, or gender. Ms. Duff refers to:

Men – and yup, that’s straight, white men – have traditionally dominated conversations in all strata of society; in Government, in boardrooms, in media and at home.

Great. So now, even though I’m shunned for the accident of birth that resulted in me being a white male in my late 40’s, that’s not enough guilt to lay on me. Because, you see, I’m also happily heterosexual. And it seems if I want to do a David Cunliffe it’s no longer good enough to apologise merely for being a man. Oh no. I’ll now have to apologise for being a straight white male in my late 40’s.

Stale, pale, male, and … nup, can’t think of a rhyming word for heterosexual. Damn.
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July 20, 2018 2:33pm
- paul scott
  
  male covers it graham > sorry downticked instead of up.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:01pm
- graham
  
  And once again the comments are all calling her out.
  
  Love this comment:
  
  Busybodies of the opposite gender telling you how to think, act and feel about something? Hmm where have I seen that before? I just can’t put my finger on it…………
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:09pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Michelle Duff, Rhymes with Muff. No Muff too Tuff, we dive at five. #metoo, #methree, #mefour(play)
  
  Sick of feminazi misogynists telling us red blooded men how to behave.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:18pm
- MrTips
  
  Stuff opinion columns seem full of woman writers with major daddy issues. Its all about power to them and they’re very, very boring.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:04pm
- cmm
  
  I love it when these women claim to be a minority group, meanwhile women outnumber men.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:26pm
Hugh Pavletich

Lowest migration gain for month of June since 2014 as population loss to Australia starts to trickle up | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94903/lowest-migration-gain-month-june-2014

Population growth from migration is continuing to decline with the net migration gain dropping to its lowest point for the month of June in four years.

According to Statistics NZ, there was a net gain (long term arrivals minus long term departures) of 2765 people in June, down a whopping 31% compared to the net gain of 4013 in June last year.

Last month’s net gain was the lowest it has been in June since 2014.

On an annual basis there was a net gain of 64,995 in the 12 months to June, down 10.1% compared to the previous 12 months and the lowest net gain for that period in since the 12 months ended June 2015. … read more via hyperlink above …
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NZ immigration eases as Aussie exodus ends – MacroBusiness Australia
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/nz-immigration-eases-aussie-exodus-ends/
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July 20, 2018 2:45pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Commerce Commission sues Wilson Parking
  
  The Commerce Commission has filed proceedings against Wilson Parking, alleging New Zealand’s biggest parking company substantially lessened competition for the supply of car parking in the Boulcott Street area in central Wellington when it acquired the rights to operate the Capital car park.
  
  Summary:
  
  – In 2015, the Commerce Commission granted clearance for Wilson Parking to acquire the lease for the Plimmer Towers car park. The clearance was granted on the basis that there was a competitive constraint (competing provider operating the Capital car park).
  
  – In June 2016, Wilson Parking acquired the long-term lease to operate the Capital car park. It didn’t apply for clearance to acquire the lease.
  
  – In February 2017, the Commerce Commission began receiving customer complaints about price increases at Capital car park.
  
  – The Commerce Commission has applied for a penalty against Wilson Parking, and orders ending its lease of the Capital car park.
  
  What I didn’t know, and found interesting, is that apparently Wilson Parking operates more than 350 off-street car parking facilities throughout New Zealand, including 52 locations in central Wellington.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:36pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Oh Hugh – don’t get too excited but somehow I replied to your comment.
    
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    July 20, 2018 3:42pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Wilson Parking. One company I would love to see go under… Vultures.
    
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    July 20, 2018 6:32pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Wilson Parking’s ultimate holding company is based in a tax haven. I am astonished they have so much credibility.
    Their only N.Z. director got his “old cheese” appointed president of the Northern Club, so our feminist media love that couple. Sick.
    
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    July 21, 2018 1:43am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Follow – up comment on MacroBusiness Au thread (behind paywall) above …speculators / investors are understandably terrified …
  
  Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/nz-immigration-eases-aussie-exodus-ends/#comment-3149750
  
  New Zealand becoming less attractive to international housing speculators … with accelerating deflating bubble …
  
  Average asking price for Auckland homes down more than $82,000 (-8.3%) from its February peak – prices also down in BoP, Wellington and Canterbury … Interest Co NZ
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94591/average-asking-price-auckland-homes-down-more-82000-83-its-february-peak-prices-also
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  QV’s average property values have fallen in Auckland, Tauranga and Wellington over the last three months – vendors warned against unrealistic price expectations … Interest Co NZ
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94608/qvs-average-property-values-have-fallen-auckland-tauranga-and-wellington-over-last
  
  Quotable Value is warning flattening or falling house prices mean we are now in a buyer’s market and some vendors may have unrealistic expectations about what their property is worth …
  
  … In Christchurch sales activity was slowing while property values were flat overall, according to QV Christchurch property consultant Hamish Collins.
  
  There was growing interest for new builds in and around the city centre, but an oversupply of land and developments in fringe districts and on the outskirts of the city, he said.
  
  These included areas such as Halswell, Wigram, Preston and the Selwyn and Waimakariri districts.
  
  “We are seeing some developers offering new builds or recently constructed properties at discounts as a way to free up cash for their next project,” Collins said.
  
  “This is having a flow on effect on the overall value of new builds or existing properties in these areas,” he said. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  Surge in new dwelling consents in Auckland could be the beginning of the end for the region’s housing shortage … Interest Co NZ
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94554/surge-new-dwelling-consents-auckland-could-be-beginning-end-regions-housing-shortage
  
  There was a surge in the number of new dwelling consents issued in May, particularly in Auckland where they hit a 15 year high, Statistics NZ says.
  
  Around the country 3407 new dwelling consents were issued in May, up 25% compared to April and up 22% compared to May last year.
  
  It was the highest number of homes consented in any month since June 2004. … read more via hyperlink above …
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  Govt criticised (by Pavletich) for moving slowly on Auckland growth boundary | Michael Daly | Fairfax / Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary
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  July 20, 2018 5:34pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Govt criticised (by Pavletich)
    
    Pavletich criticised (by Kiwiblog readers) for link-whoring
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:41pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Nostra … 2017 was politically the year from hell for the Tories (refer GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ).
      
      It seems 2018 is shaping up to being the year from hell for them financially as the housing bubble bursts.
      
      NZ First Leader Winston Peters warned of this last October at the time of his coalition announcement.
      
      Do you remember ?
      
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      July 20, 2018 5:51pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Hugh:
        
        2017 was politically the year from hell for the Tories
        
        Really? Why?
        
        2018 is shaping up to being the year from hell for them financially
        
        Is “them” National? And what do you mean by “financially”?
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:08pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … Auckland apartment market in very serious trouble …
  
  Good bidding on some apartments, not much interest in others | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94899/good-bidding-some-apartments-not-much-interest-others
  
  It was a mixed bag at this week’s main Auckland apartment auctions with just over a third overall selling under the hammer. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  July 21, 2018 12:24am
UpandComer

I promise I’ll leave off for a full week after really outdoing myself today lol.

If you want to understand all the grandeur of Christianity we’ve been robbed of, which you’ve been robbed of, read Victor Hugo’s Les Miserables again. And then read it again. Really listen to the Mayor Valjean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNH0ZGAcCrE

The ethical dilemma. The basis of every great work in the western canon.

Does he let an innocent man die in prison, or does he take his place, again, on the line. What the Jews call schmaltz and slander as mere sentimentality, is genuine moral grandeur. Exquisite. Completely absent their Talmud which I’m reading. Completely absent their Kabala, which is just an exercise in manifesting will through self proclaimed magic.

The grandeur of human choice no longer exists. Remember – Free Choice is the basis of humanity in the Christian tradition. It’s what makes man superior to the Angels – because they are already chosen. They don’t have to sacrifice. They don’t have to choose.

Quantum physics, whereby particles take on the form of either a particle or a wave depending on the type of attention they are subject to, absent pattern, increasingly supports genuine free choice creating a cascade of new realities in a manner that doesn’t fit materialism. There is a genuine bifurcation that can’t be predicted from previous action. That contradicts every science journal since forever. But it’s increasingly looking like the truth.

The Kabala and the Talmud can be manipulated to justify all actions ex post facto – they contain no absolutes. Everything is a Dialectic. Maimonedes says no money, dies, that’s interpreted to mean money.

They can be summed up as ‘No limits – everything is permitted’. That is the Talmud interpreting the Torah combined with the Kabala. That’s also the doctrine of Aleistair Crowley.

Will is all.

The Koran is formless ex ante immorality. There is no logic to any of what it says. It’s just the whim of Allah, the whim of Mohammad. He wanted a few more wives. One happened to be a cousin. Suddenly it is permitted. Forever. No logic, no rationale. Just complete arbitrary chaos and conceit.

If you want to rediscover your roots, trace it where it lies.

If you want to feel meaning again, understand the sheer grandeur of every single choice you make. Every word you utter.

Trace the Greeks and the Romans through Aquinas and imbue yourself.

This is what a man like me could have done in the past. Instead, females I know got to get to Oxbridge but not me for reasons unfathomed. I go to apply for jobs in universities, and I get blocked even I use my artistry to paint a Taqiyya abasing to diversity, because I’m just so inalterably un-diverse. I just have no protected attributes. And they can tell I’m a volcano.

So I’ll stick to the law. And I’ll declare war on those who have declared war on me. White, male, Christian, conservative – ubermensch. Very well. We’ll build a nation of our own – a Zion, if you will. Vic Alhadeef is going to create white Zionism again in Australia. And if you think only Moses Hess and Sharon and that tribe are capable of grasping it by the roots you are wrong. Australia will be Zion – not diversia. It will be a stronger Zionism.

I will shed myself of every iota of the alien culture I can – like Charles Upham who let no German car on his property. I will excise every trace of the alien religion and culture and replace it with my own. And I will create manuals for others to do the same. And they will be highly effective.

You shouldn’t have murdered speech. You shouldn’t have attacked my nation, and my Church. You shouldn’t have destroyed my Ireland. You shouldn’t have raped my brethren in England. You shouldn’t have caged Australia. You shouldn’t have created Protected Attribute Theory. You shouldn’t have said all white people need to die. Now we have what you call ‘white extinction anxiety’.

Our long march begins. There are many like me. We know. It’s not LARPing. Shits going to happen. It really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOBIiDMLOxs

I’m sick of watching everything I love being burned to the ground.

It’s okay to be white and Christian, mother fuckers.
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July 20, 2018 3:43pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I say unto thee: eat ye not bushels of gold, but piles of apples.They that praise God the Father shalt remove sin and weakness; they shalt be sheltered from the flood. Ashchenaz did prepareth satchels of blood and was depraved in the eyes of the everlasting God. Totally dig the Holy One and thou shalt restore thy strength; thou shalt banish corruption and depravity.
  
  Thus saith the Lord thy God: collect ye not wagons full of pearls, but pots of garden tools.
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:56pm
- UpandComer
  
  Here is another one. See you in a week.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoNGB_OFC34&list=RDZoNGB_OFC34&start_radio=1
  
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  July 20, 2018 3:56pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Thank you UpandComer – you truly are a treasure.
  
  Enjoy the week off, get some rest and we’ll see you back here in August where an eager audience awaits.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:35pm
Nostradamus

UpandComer:

I promise I’ll leave off for a full week after really outdoing myself today lol.

Ok what have you got?

the grandeur of Christianity … the Jews … Free Choice is the basis of humanity in the Christian tradition … Quantum physics … a cascade of new realities … a genuine bifurcation … The Kabala and the Talmud … Dialectic … ‘No limits – everything is permitted’ … The Koran … the whim of Allah … the whim of Mohammad … the Greeks and the Romans … a volcano … a Zion … white Zionism again in Australia … German car … alien religion and culture … my Church … Protected Attribute Theory … all white people need to die … ‘white extinction anxiety’ … Our long march begins …

Wow – that was deep man!

Are you sure you don’t need to take more than “a full week” to recover from this?
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July 20, 2018 3:59pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  It’s almost as if it were meaningless gibberish.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:29pm
- UpandComer
  
  Lol I know. It gets annoying. That’s why I’m disappearing for a full week!
  
  I don’t know – People don’t upvote me because it’s esoteric, but this stuff might be of interest to some people. It gets tedious reading the same merry go round of trivialities all the time. Culture is pretty interesting. As well as economics.
  
  Legal work can get boring too so I don’t mind really late nights if I test thoughts out here during the day.
  
  It’s all good.
  
  Don’t you enjoy some reasonably spirited apologetics to chew on?
  
  I’m pretty aggressive in my rhetoric but I don’t want to annoy people or wish harm.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfX0oayYt9E
  
  My latest rant was from actually seeing this ad online and hating it and the Daniel Andrews government so much. They have 7,000 children in Victoria who are subject to their version of a CYF’s notification for serious abuse, and they haven’t been assigned a case or a carer. Just unimaginable in NZ. And then he runs ads like that.
  
  I know for a fact guys out there love the stuff I produce for them that gives them a sense of pride and continuity, that’s denied by these wormtongue laws and attitudes which says it’s intrinsically racist and hate speech.
  
  So anyway I know it’s annoying and I’ve gone pretty hard last few days so I’ll amble away.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1HkuGUaNBY
  
  Check this trailer – it’s a good one. Video games are the last place where there is a trace of non-feminist culture.
  
  Anyway. I hope everyone enjoys their weekend! Don’t get too nervy about my posts. I just like testing out ideas here, precisely because they’re politically incorrect. And it’s amazing how much religion still factors in a supposedly secular liberal democratic world. Christian invocations have power, don’t they. They stir Europeans. Because it’s engrained in us, whether we like it or not. And we need it, if for no other reason then to understand and oppose the other side who hate it.
  
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  July 20, 2018 4:33pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Upandcomer:
    
    Legal work can get boring too so I don’t mind really late nights if I test thoughts out here during the day.
    
    Hang on – you’re a lawyer?
    
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    July 20, 2018 4:35pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Snigger.
      
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      July 20, 2018 4:58pm
  - realityczech
    
    “People don’t upvote me”
    
    Uppity, I do. We will talk some more about your silly religious ideas later 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 6:58pm
MrTips

Here’s another rant:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/105633418/michelle-duff-we-dont-need-men-telling-us-how-to-metoo

Stuff opinion columns seem full of woman writers with major daddy issues. Its all about power to them and they’re very, very boring.
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July 20, 2018 4:01pm
VicParking

If Lauren Southern danced in the surf she would be accused of kicking sand in peoples faces.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12092445
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July 20, 2018 4:18pm
EAD_TWO

So let me get this straight: Jews are protected by anti-RACIAL discrimination laws, even though we’re repeatedly told that it’s a religion, NOT a race.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-first-us-judge-says-racial-discrimination-law-applies-to-jews/

Have fun squaring this circle. 🙂
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July 20, 2018 5:11pm
- VicParking
  
  Jewish people are a race. You can Identify them through DNA. However anyone can join the Jewish religion. Most people in Thailand are buddhist but that does not stop a native of Kenya becoming a
  buddhist.
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:49pm
  - realityczech
    
    Explain black Jews, Tatar Jews and so on?
    
    They are a religious and cultural group idiot.
    
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    July 20, 2018 6:54pm
    - stephieboy
      
      kea, your Adolf and EADolf ( I think ) see it otherwise,
      
      https://www.historyonthenet.com/what-were-the-nuremberg-laws/
      
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      July 20, 2018 7:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, Thanks for the heads up gibbering loon. I don’t give a shit what some long dead Austrian thought about anything.
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:05pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea, but , but… I swear I thought you said a few days ago that ( agreeing with EADolf ) Adolf was one of the greatest?
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, Yes very talented for a lefty, but like all lefties Hitler had issues and kept hating on people.
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:11pm
EAD_TWO

Ethnostate for me, multicultural hell for thee:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/final-text-of-jewish-nation-state-bill-set-to-become-law/

When you consider the Jewish role in agitating for, supporting and funding 3rd world immigration into Goyim countries, we are reaching levels of hypocritical chutzpah that really should not be humanly possible.

No surprises that “Chutzpah” is a Jewish in origin 🙂
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July 20, 2018 5:15pm
- realityczech
  
  Eddy, but but but but… The Times of Israel published in Israel by hard line zionist Jews for Jews is for Nazis.
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:32pm
realityczech

Highly religious people are less motivated by compassion than are non-believers

More needs to be done to protect decent people from the religious and keep better control of them.

Better yet we can start by shipping Jews, Muslims an Christians back to the Middle East.
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July 20, 2018 5:29pm
- nasska
  
  Please! Let it begin!
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:36pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  And Europeans to Europe, Americans to America, Africans to Africa and Asians to Asia? Leave Aotearoa as Maori land only?
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:37pm
  - realityczech
    
    Yes milky you are getting the hang of it. If the Jews can wind the clock back 3000 years why can’t Maori a few hundred?
    
    Start packing YT
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:42pm
  - nasska
    
    Cruel bastard! The Maori would be back to eating each other inside twenty years. 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:42pm
    - stephieboy
      
      nasska, and white folk declaring a horrendous world war for the third time within the last 100 years?
      
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      July 20, 2018 5:45pm
      - realityczech
        
        Gosh no stupidboy, next time we will support the Germans in their goals.
        
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        July 20, 2018 5:52pm
- realityczech
  
  An interesting article.
  
  Seems this gay unemployed Jew had daddy issues. Happens a lot with boys from solo mums with no father around.
  
  Jesus was a gay, genderfluid drag king, says college professor
  
  Professor Liew explains that while “John is clear that Jesus is [Jewish]; what John is less clear about is whether Jesus is a biological male.”
  
  The professor also suggests that Jesus had a gay lover in the form of a Roman centurion, and that he had homosexual desires about God while on the crucifix.
  
  He argues that rather than being incestuous, “this exchange of desires place[s] the Father’s identity in question”.
  
  Professor Liew writes: “One may, as a result, turn around Jesus’ well-known statement in John, ‘No one comes to the Father except through me’: Jesus himself needs others to cum with the Father.
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:48pm
realityczech

Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds

Shocking reading. As a society we need to re-evaluate if we should continue to allow religious people access to children.
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July 20, 2018 5:35pm
- stephieboy
  
  kea, officials should not allow a mad beast like you access to children too!
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:47pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    What would “officials” say about someone who has publicly stated that he goes to St Lukes to perve at young girls, Stephieboy?
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:49pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus, young women at least 19-20. Why the jealousy?
      
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      July 20, 2018 6:41pm
      - realityczech
        
        “young women”
        
        stupidboy, it was clearly the young ladies children you were lusting over. Sicko.
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:52pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        You referred to “three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children” and “a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters”. Note the words “children” and “young”.
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:54pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Nostradamus .your fixation and compulsion continues.
      
      Get the help you so desperately need.
      
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      July 20, 2018 6:58pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Zealots of any type are dangerous.
  
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  July 20, 2018 6:52pm
Nostradamus

Morrissey has a bruising experience at The Standard:

Marty Mars: Melania is awesome.
Morrissey: No she’s not.
Marty Mars: Oh shut it you wanker.
Morrissey: Translation: “I got nuthin’.”
Marty Mars: Lol classic – it doesn’t need a translation you knob.
Morrissey: It kind of does….
McFlock: Seems pretty self-explanatory. Which bit did you feel was prone to misunderstanding?

Wow!
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July 20, 2018 5:35pm
- realityczech
  
  Nosty, I hope you washed with bleach before coming over here. ☣
  
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  July 20, 2018 5:41pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    You’re quite safe! I wore an Ebola-grade spacesuit and was only there for 90 seconds (long enough to see that nothing’s changed since I last visited about 6 months ago).
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:43pm
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    Run a virus & spyware check immediately! 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 5:44pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      That’s only for Russian websites, Nasska. The Standard has Stalinist leanings, I guess, but it’s known more for its links to the NZ Labour Party than to the Russian KGB.
      
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      July 20, 2018 5:45pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”it’s known more for its links to the NZ Labour Party”…..
        
        That’s what I was concerned about. Remember back a few years ago when Whale walked through their cyber back door.
        
        They’ve probably been hacked more times than Hilary Clinton’s home brew server! 🙂
        
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        July 20, 2018 5:51pm
      - VicParking
        
        But our leader, currently in Postpartum depression, is a Communist, in fact she was a world leader in such. Who says she’s not been given orders from Moscow.
        
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        July 20, 2018 5:54pm
      - realityczech
        
        Recent revelations have confirmed that Clinton is a raging alcoholic with advanced mental and physical decay from years of heavy drinking.
        
        I don’t know why I did not pick it up earlier as the signs are so profoundly obvious in hindsight.
        
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        July 20, 2018 5:59pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea, as we have known with you for some time.
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:17pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea, as we have known with you for some time.
        
        Squawk,Squawk..!
        
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        July 20, 2018 6:18pm
Inandout

I used to watch Tennant as Dr Who, but Peter was just too PC. Now I will just watch old episodes, if at all.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a861978/doctor-who-series-11-jodie-whittaker-reveals-david-tennant-mesage/

What next, a Mrs Bond? My name is Bond, Jane Bond.
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July 20, 2018 6:08pm
rightoverlabour

Just seen this on Facebook. Are we as a society to soft on rapists in New Zealand?

Some may find the video graphic, South Africans saw this type of graphic stuff every night on the news during the 80s…. Its also why so many of us live here today.
https://www.facebook.com/kagiso.maphaga/videos/1954405187914499/?t=130
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July 20, 2018 6:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Are the numbers of babies being raped decreasing or increasing in Nelson Mandela’s rainbow nation of love and bunny rabbits?
  
  Is the latest raped baby healing okay after the 5 surgeries to try and sow her back together?
  
  https://www.iol.co.za/thepost/8-month-old-baby-raped-by-cousin-undergoes-3-hour-surgery-13025824
  
  And another:
  
  https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/raped-baby-faces-year-on-operating-table-77902
  
  And on and on and on….
  
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  July 20, 2018 6:31pm
realityczech

Great movie you can get online:

Gay Jesus (2015)

Once upon a time in a cheap Jerusalem hotel room, Jesus and Judas are spending their time away from Nazareth between hot, sweaty, carnal love and preparing sermons for Jesus’ growing fanbase. Enter Mary Magdalene, jealousy, Satan, and the Romans, and the once-perfect love affair between Judas and Jesus becomes a hellish ring of fire, leading Judas to betray his beloved Christ and the Romans to punish everyone for trying to turn everyone gay.
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July 20, 2018 6:23pm
DigNap15

Why does every single GD degenerate into a anti jew, stephie/goat bashing thread?
Half the posts seem to be on this theme every day….
Can’t you give it a rest for a few days?
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July 20, 2018 6:43pm
- realityczech
  
  “jew, stephie”
  
  Dignap, you had to bring it up didn’t you.
  
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  July 20, 2018 6:50pm
  - DigNap15
    
    I should have included Czechs as well.
    Yes I had to bring it up, because it is sickening reading the same old drivel every day!
    There are so many more topics to discuss.
    
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    July 20, 2018 7:15pm
    - realityczech
      
      “There are so many more topics to discuss”
      
      We used to try and chat about the weather but that was even worse ☁ ☀ ☂
      
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      July 20, 2018 7:19pm
      - sooty
        
        It’s fun and he enjoys it. Or he would have left ages ago.
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:07pm
      - sooty
        
        Why else would he come for a daily spanking?
        
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        July 20, 2018 10:11pm
- Nostradamus
  
  DigNap15:
  
  Can’t you give it a rest for a few days?
  
  It sounds like you’re taking a few days off Kiwiblog? We’ll miss you! 🙂
  
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  July 20, 2018 6:56pm
  - realityczech
    
    With profound comments like that we will all miss you Dingbat 666.
    
    Interesting you were triggered about people being critical of man/goat love. Wanna talk about it sometime?
    
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    July 20, 2018 6:59pm
- nasska
  
  …..”degenerate into a anti jew, stephie/goat”….
  
  How true. The amazing thing is that most of us get along alright with Jews & tolerate goats. 🙂
  
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  July 20, 2018 6:59pm
  - realityczech
    
    Yeah never had a problem with the chosen ones in real life. Worked with them, drank with them, dated them. No worries 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 7:01pm
    - nasska
      
      What about the goats? 🙂
      
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      July 20, 2018 7:22pm
      - realityczech
        
        I meant the goats.
        
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        July 20, 2018 7:26pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        As long as you didn’t bother the kids.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:57pm
- GoVege
  
  Totally agree, Dignap.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:22pm
wiseowl

I hope DPF picks up on the fact that the cops are now trying to close down bars in Bowling Clubs in Wellington.
Why don’t they just f off and deal with crims?
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July 20, 2018 7:46pm
- nasska
  
  …..”close down bars in Bowling Clubs”…..
  
  They’ve lost the plot. On the rare occasion I’ve ever entered the bar of a bowling club it better resembled a holding pen for the undertaker than a den of vice, depravity & alcoholism.
  
  There must have been reports of the players dropping wheelies on their mobility scooters. 🙂
  
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  July 20, 2018 7:53pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Someone on Kiwiblog pointed out a few months ago that hair salons are no longer allowed to offer wine to their customers. Just in case, you know, they get drunk while having their hair trimmed.
    
    Ah, yes, I’ve found the comment. It was from Fernglas:
    
    My wife went to have her hair done on Friday afternoon. The hairdresser apologised for not being able to offer her and the other ladies present, all of whom were well over 18, a glass of wine as they had in the past. The police had come in two days before and told them they were in breach of the licensing laws for doing so and would prosecute if they found it happening again. I can’t conceive of a comment that would accurately describe such fuckwittedness.
    
    An excellent contribution!
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:22pm
- realityczech
  
  The upper level of the pigs are a hideous bunch of far left authoritarians. Severe measures are overdue.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:03pm
GoVege

Hi boyz.
It said on the news that you’ve gotta cut back on eating our mammalian cuzzies if you want to stay healthy.
100 grams of meat.
Is that a night or a week?
(I was cooking dinner at the time.)
We don’t want you popping off from heart attacks or strokes prematurely… 🙂
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July 20, 2018 8:19pm
- nasska
  
  I find that 250g of good quality beef or lamb per day is enough to maintain my brain function, robust health & good looks GoVege. A good feed of bacon & eggs for breakfast helps too.
  
  I’ve noticed that a diet rich in fruit, beans & vegetables makes me fart something terrible. How do you cope? 🙂
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:26pm
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    Flatulence is a sign of a healthy digestive system, nasska.
    Also, some of the brainiest people on the planet have been veges. 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:59pm
    - realityczech
      
      Hitler?
      
      I hear he ate compost too.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:07pm
      - GoVege
        
        I was thinking more of the likes of Voltaire, RC.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:12pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”Flatulence is a sign of a healthy digestive system”…..
      
      According to my nearest & dearest my flatulence was more likely an indication that something had found its way up my arse & died GoVege.
      
      I blame the beans! 🙂
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:15pm
- realityczech
  
  The evidence against a high carb diet is overwhelming. I have seen lives transformed by doing away with it.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:28pm
- Nostradamus
  
  GoVege:
  
  This is from Medical Daily: 3 Benefits of Eating Meat
  
  While the current trend is all about going vegan … here is a list of the health benefits of eating meat that all contribute to carrying out vital metabolic functions but also giving one a lot of energy as well.
  
  Benefit 1 is protein
  Benefit 2 is nutrients
  Benefit 3 is vitamins
  
  I’m curious. Is your position that a person should never eat meat or (while you don’t eat meat personally) that it’s ok to eat meat in moderation as part of a balanced diet?
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:31pm
  - realityczech
    
    Meat is concentrated plant material turned into people food.
    
    If our ancestors thought like Vegegoo then we would all be sitting in a tree hiding from leopards and picking lice from each others fur. Meat eating made us human.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:34pm
  - GoVege
    
    Nostradamus: on the telly tonight it apparently said that meat is OK for you in small quantities.
    Fish, on the other hand, is the only animal food that is actually very good for you.
    I don’t believe in being rigid about these things.
    Most people become very fond of the food they’re used to, so we need to gradually move to a more healthy diet, or we probably won’t do it at all.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:07pm
    - realityczech
      
      Then gradually move to getting some meat into you. It can be stuffed in a little bit at a time, rammed home all at once, or you might prefer a mixture of mystery meat.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:11pm
      - GoVege
        
        You’ve got a one-track mind, Rallycheek…. 🙂
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:13pm
      - realityczech
        
        A ~~zucchini~~ marrow just won’t provide the same benefits Vege.
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:15pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Thanks GoVege.
      
      I note your comment that “I don’t believe in being rigid about these things”.
      
      I agree with that assessment. People are generally more aware now than before about the benefits of healthy eating habits. I would say, though, that there’s a lot of contradictory advice out there, some of it self-serving by vested interests, and others reflecting the latest trendy fad (eg butter is good > butter is good but margarine is better > butter is bad and margarine is good).
      
      From my perspective, the important thing is a balanced diet that includes, meat, seafood, fruit and vegetables.
      
      And, as a final point, many people seem to have forgotten about the pleasure of eating a home-cooked meal. One of my good friends once blew me away when he told me that he’d never turned on (let alone used) the oven in the place he was renting.
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:31pm
      - GoVege
        
        Incredible!
        I suspect a lot of people don’t know how to cook even the basics these days.
        Must be so bad for their health.
        As I’ve gotten older I just can’t eat takeaways anymore, except for the better ones like Wendy’s and Burgerfuel.
        But it costs a fortune to eat out.
        Tonight I cooked fish, potatoes, cauliflower for 4 of us and it would have cost about $10 all up.
        Sometimes I add a yummy grated carrot that costs about 20 cents extra. 🙂
        
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        July 20, 2018 9:49pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So when majority of everything said on the News these days is utter bullshit, we should believe this why?
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:01pm
Monique Watson

Those veges can play nasty on the bowels. I eat a lot of fruit,eggs, bacon, pork lamb and chicken. Stay away from the cookies. Carbs in wine. And decent fucking beer.And Stephie gets the verbal because he’s a fucking no-hoper troll.
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July 20, 2018 8:39pm
- realityczech
  
  Wanna be slim, feel great, and healthy? Ditch processed food and stick to veges and meat, with very little carbs. Eat as much as you need and plenty of healthy fat.
  
  Want to be fat tired depressed and sickly? Eat lots of whole grains and other carbs, while avoiding fats and meat.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:44pm
- GoVege
  
  Keep off that highly processed, fried meat like bacon, Monique.
  It gives you cancer.
  The last time I spoke to one of my uncles he told me he always had bacon and eggs for breakfast.
  Then he couldn’t eat anything.
  Next thing I heard he’d died of bowel cancer…
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:16pm
  - realityczech
    
    Sad story. I bet he ate vegetables too. Carbs are a leading cause of cancer. Breads and pasta are highly processed foods by their very nature.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:22pm
    - GoVege
      
      Nah RC.
      He scared his wife away by throwing heavy objects at her, so he had to do his own cooking, which was pretty cr*p.
      Probably a lot like yours or most other males.
      🙂
      
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      July 20, 2018 9:37pm
Nostradamus

Human cannibalism is the act or practice of humans eating the flesh or internal organs of other human beings. … Cannibalism was practiced in New Guinea and in parts of the Solomon Islands, and flesh markets existed in some parts of Melanesia. Fiji was once known as the “Cannibal Isles”. Cannibalism has been well documented around the world, from Fiji to the Amazon Basin to the Congo to the Māori people of New Zealand. … Cannibalism was also practiced in the past in Egypt during ancient Egypt, Roman Egypt and during famines such as the great famine in the year 1201.

Thank goodness we’re more civilised now!
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July 20, 2018 8:41pm
- nasska
  
  Imagine what it would be like to be Maori.
  
  To wake up every morning knowing that if the white people left en masse tribal warfare would re-emerge. The frightful reality that you were as like or not going to be cycled through the hangi of the tribe in the next valley. No KFC, no McDonalds……just a scrawny bit of the opposition & a handful of fern root for tucker.
  
  Poor buggers! 🙂
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:55pm
  - GoVege
    
    They still have tribal warfare, nasska.
    Just they call it gang warfare now and luckily the pakeha tries to stop them killing each other.
    There are plenty of decent, hard-working Maori of course.
    Just the tribal ones have the most kids in order to stay on the benny and live a carefree life on the taxpayers.
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Cannibalism occurs when other sources of meat are not available. It is natures way of fighting of the slow starvation that comes from a plant based diet.
  
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  July 20, 2018 9:26pm
  - GoVege
    
    Only if the meat-eaters are already cannibalistic by nature.
    Civilized types stick to veges and fish. 🙂
    
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    July 20, 2018 9:40pm
Nostradamus

Introducing Dr Bumbum/Dr Butt

A celebrity Brazilian plastic surgeon famous for his buttock-enhancing operations, has been arrested after four days on the run following the death of one of his patients. Police arrested Denis Furtado — who is known famously on social media as “Dr Bumbum” and “Dr Butt” on Thursday in Rio de Janeiro.

Dr Furtado’s plastic surgery work has turned him into a celebrity — he has a massive following on social media, including 645,000 followers on Instagram, where he posts photos of before and after operations.

I suspect some of these 645,000 followers look at the before-and-after photos for personal gratification!
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July 20, 2018 8:47pm
- realityczech
  
  “the death of one of his patients”
  
  I assume they want to give the good doctor a medal for finally doing the right thing.
  
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  July 20, 2018 8:49pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Federal Labor MP Emma Husar is facing an inquiry into alleged harassment of staff in her office.
    
    The NSW backbencher has been accused of making staff walk her dog and clean up its faeces under working conditions one staffer described as “hell”, Buzzfeed News reported.
    
    Ms Husar also directed a male staff member to do the washing up so he could learn about “white male privilege”, according to Sky News.
    
    And, yes, it’d have to be a Labor MP.
    
    But it gets more interesting:
    
    NSW Labor has declined to comment saying the process for assessing complaints protected both parties. “Where appropriate, public comment may be made at the conclusion of the independent process,” the party said in a statement.
    
    Sounds like NZ Labour’s process for investigating sexual abuse claims.
    
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    July 20, 2018 8:53pm
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      Will she be on morris pervert list?
      
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      July 20, 2018 10:00pm
All_on_Red

Well, that was a fun game of ‘whack a mole’
Looks like the little c**t is gone.
Have a good night all.
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July 20, 2018 8:53pm
Monique Watson

Probably should stop the smoking and boozing as well. For overall health: My recipe for success: Oats and fruit tn the morning. With almond milk. I eat like a cup and a half. Of oats. Fuels a tanker. Dump a banana and two handfuls of berries on a day and I’m good to go.
The bacon comes later when Hubby jumps up and makes Second Breakfast: Eggs Benedict. World Class BTW.
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July 20, 2018 10:07pm
- Jack5
  
  The great definition of oats from Samuel Johnson’s pioneer dictionary of the English language:
  
  Oats. n.s. [aten, Saxon.] A grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland supports the people.
  
  It is of the grass leaved tribe; the flowers have no petals, and are disposed in a loose panicle: the grain is eatable. The meal makes tolerable good bread. Miller.
  
  The oats have eaten the horses. Shakespeare.
  
  It is bare mechanism, no otherwise produced than the turning of a wild oatbeard, by the insinuation of the particles of moisture. Locke.
  
  For your lean cattle, fodder them with barley straw first, and the oat straw last. Mortimer’s Husbandry.
  
  His horse’s allowance of oats and beans, was greater than the journey required. Swift.
  
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  July 20, 2018 10:53pm
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    And a reported famous discussion between Samuel Johnson and his biographer, the Scotsman, Boswell, after Johnson had criticised Boswell for eating oats for breakfast (my source seems to have modernised the wording):
    
    Samuel Johnson: In England we wouldn’t think of eating oats. We only feed them to horses.
    
    Boswell: Well, maybe that’s why in England you have better horses, and in Scotland we have better men.
    
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    July 20, 2018 11:05pm
DigNap15

I am really sick of all these scientists telling us what we should eat and not eat, to live long and healthy, and lose weight and not get cancer.
Red wine, no wine, sugar no sugar, fat, no fat, carbs no carbs.
Paleo diet, Mediterranean diet, this diet, that diet.

I mean the other day some scientist said they are 100% sure that fat is what causes weight gain, not sugar or carbs.
They fed fat to 1,000 mice.

So all this talk about sugar in our soft drinks is rubbish.
Come on!
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- realityczech
  
  There was never any good science pointing to fat. The evidence that excess carbohydrate is the problem is not just from studies, but can be witnessed first hand around you.
  
  You simply will not find a fatty who does not eat lots of carbs, unless they changed their diet very recently.
  
  Everyone who drops carbs loses huge amounts of weight with ease, and feels better immediately.
  
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