General Debate 19 July 2018

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peterwn

So now Whaleoil is attacking hard working National MP Chris Bishop because he called out Winston on his racist comments. Never mind that through dint of hard work he saw off Trevor Mallard as Hutt South MP. Perhaps Whaleoil has visions that in 2020 (or earlier) Winston will turn against Labour/Greens and instead choose National.
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July 19, 2018 8:01am
- igm
  
  peter: Slater cannot see any politician other than Judith Collins.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:06am
  - ztev
    
    Slater is a serial political groupie…. he leaves a trail of political friends behind as they can never be as doctrinaire as him in his basement
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:13am
    - softail 1450
      
      trev, Slater in his basement surrounded by his meds
      and his blogs begging apps.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:28am
      - ztev
        
        Does he still have that face affliction which means lower jaw semi paralysed and his tongue hangs out|?
        
        Hes marking off the days – over a year ? -since his court case with Colin Craig ended and wondering what the judge is up to ?
        Silly moo doesnt get it, its the Courts way to say FO or as one judge in Australia once put it, ‘your judgement will go to the bottom of the pile to be written.’
        The Slaters dont understand court processes either wondering why the judge didnt have a a few days after the case to ‘ gather their thoughts while the case is still fresh’.
        Silly Moos dont realise everyword is transcribed and the judges refer to the transcript and dont ‘try to remember ‘ at all.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:08am
      - sooty
        
        Zit today is that old nasty one. So nothing changed. The font on all knowledge.
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:10am
      - peterwn
        
        AFAIK he does not now take meds and had regretted taking them, even though they were properly prescribed. He was obliged to take them as a condition of payouts on his loss of earnings insurance even though he considered them unhelpful. In fairness to Cam he has made a very good job of putting his life back together after suffering a major setback some years ago. His wife ‘Spanish Bride’ is amazing – she has stayed loyal and has been extremely supportive.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:30pm
      - ztev
        
        Wife was supportive and loyal, and yet her thanks was Slaters affair with some Debbie Brown woman who was one of Micheal Laws ‘harem’
        
        ‘Both women have been linked to shock-jock Michael Laws: Sperling is a former girlfriend and Brown is a woman he was seen out with.’
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10813552
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:08pm
    - Harkman
      
      “Slater is a serial political groupie…” Ha this coming the team at Young Labour, classic. Pot calling the kettle black doesn’t do this statement justice. Strangely you are correct about how isolated he has become.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:33am
      - kevn
        
        @Harkman… Exactly, the twyford clone z’s have nasty side(s).
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:31am
    - igm
      
      At least Slater is a man, had guts to face Ryder (who is not a bad scrapper) in the ring; not wait for a coronary patient and attack him! You know what I am talking about.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:36am
    - GazzaW
      
      ‘Slater is a serial political groupie’….
      
      You must feel some sort of affinity with him then ztev.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:12am
      - ztev
        
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        Slater had his contact man in the Beehive in John keys office with Jason Ede. Ive never had a political party or government contact
        
        And Slater was in personal contact with JK and others including JC. labours leaders wouldnt even know who I am
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:52am
      - KiWombat
        
        I was going to give you a nasty look but I see you already have one !
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:01am
      - GazzaW
        
        Oh really ztev? Do you just pull all of that info and Party BS out of your arse at such short notice? It has Labour’s grubby fingerprints all over it.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:09pm
      - ztev
        
        g.o.a.t
        When you know what you are doing, Ive kept archives for interesting bits which are easily searched
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:12pm
  - rockape
    
    I am no Judith fan, however she is turning up at the West coast for this.
    Good Morning.
    
    This Sunday the 22nd of July will see Coasters protest about the decree from Minister Sage that there will be no more mining on conservation estate. (This includes stewardship land)
    
    The impact will be huge and Coasters are asked to attend the opening of the Taramakau Bridge, and celebrate the completion of the bridge by Fulton Hogan under time and under budget.
    
    The truck protest leaves Greymouth at 11am and will return to Greymouth by 12pm.
    
    The bridge opening is at 2.15pm at the northern end of the bridge.
    
    After the official walk across the bridge those that want to express their views and support industry will wear high-vis-vests and assemble to hear the speakers.
    
    If you are a red neck and want to make trouble STAY AT HOME.
    
    This is Coasters sending a message to Wellington and is the first of four planned.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:58am
  - peterwn
    
    I have no problem with this. She may or make the leadership one day, but she is IMO one of National’s most valuable MP’s.
    
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    July 19, 2018 12:34pm
- RalphT
  
  Chris should wear the Whaleoil badge with pride; to incur the wrath of that site means he must be doing something worthy of our support.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:08am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Did you actually read the ‘brave new world of NZ’ bilge that Bishop tweeted? Utter pc crap. Good on Winston for his defense of the kiwi way.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:36am
- Chris R
  
  I received a letter from Chris Bishop last night explaining his position. I replied to him saying I think he is a good guy but his time would be better employed exposing the utter economic mess the Lab/Green/NZ1st fools are dragging us all into. Chris Bishop is a hard worker and is amiable but the diversity debate can await the defeat of the Coalition of Losers.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:10am
  - ztev
    
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    Using social media to gather ‘good options for dining out while on overseas junkets’ is hard working.
    
    Hes a political junkie , who in the words of many here ‘hasnt had a real job’ before becoming an MP.
    Holiday jobs at Russel Mcveagh and Crown law …yeah right…no need to say any more
    Straight from the ivory towers to working in politics for national in parliament then
    working in Beehive to work for tobbaco company lobbying his wellington mates and then back to beehive
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:14am
    - KiWombat
      
      If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I would have farted !
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:19am
    - dime
      
      so you’re saying he did before becoming an MP than chompers did.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:20am
      - igm
        
        Chompers handed out fish and chip packs, she was incapable of using the till.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:34am
      - ztev
        
        And Nikki Kaye and Nicola Willis
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:55am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Let it go ztev; the repressed hatred you have for Bishop will eventually consume you. There’s no shame in seeking professional help.
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:51am
      - sooty
        
        let alone the hatred for John Key.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:14pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        That goes without saying.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:35pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        The different Z’s each have a different National party members to hate
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:42pm
      - igm
        
        I would gladly give Ztrev help . . . Yeh right!
        
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        July 19, 2018 4:28pm
  - GazzaW
    
    Same letter and same reaction from me Chris.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:16am
- ztev
  
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  hard work ?
  Bishop first put his hat in the ring for nomination once the boundary changes moved Hutt South over to the Ngaruanga Gorge in Ohariu territory leaving behind labour areas in the Hutt like Naenae.
  Now hes NZs first ‘middle age adjacent’ MP who likes to think hes hip and cool when he would have worn a jacket when he was a student and instead of having a real world summer holidays job like Judith Collins did at Farmers shoe department he was ‘interning’ at Russel McVeagh and Crown Law
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:19am
  - calendar girl
    
    “…..he was ‘interning’ at Russel McVeagh and Crown Law.”
    
    Don’t take it too hard that he had a better education than you.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:31am
    - oldpark
      
      @CG.
      Dumbo Ztev puts the boot into the National MP winner Mr Bishop. Ztev attempting to denigrate him for” interning” at Russel Mc Veagh and Crown law like it was a crime.
      
      Dumbo illiterate Ztev seems to be unaware that NZs self styled Dictator Peters started out there as well.Seems it was alright for Peters to start off there ,and a crime because Mr Bishop did also.
      Ztev out on parole for nefarious actitivies needs to do a bit more study when he is locked up.Nuff said.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:45am
      - MrLovebucket
        
        Ouch, we know what they like to do to interns at Russel McVeagh
        
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        July 19, 2018 8:55am
      - ztev
        
        Peters worked at Snowy River tunneling in his university holidays. RMcV wouldnt take a Maori kid from the sticks back in those days.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:17am
      - Rich Prick
        
        ztev, I think Whata J. and other Russell McVeagh alumni might disagree.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:51am
      - ztev
        
        Havent you forgotten Kos as RMcV alumnus or the word godfather – in a nice way- is more appropriate
        That was a quick ‘promotion’ both to the Court of Appeal and the Presidency, Im sure he was just outstanding as a judge as that would be it totally.
        Pity that Finlayson isnt around anymore for a promotion to ‘next big job’ coming up
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:01am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        RMcV wouldnt take a Maori kid from the sticks back in those days.
        
        Oh REALLY ztev?
        
        After his BA, Peters briefly worked in Australia – the money was better – before returning to Auckland to study law. He then married Louise, a primary school teacher, in 1973, and secured a job at the law firm Russell McVeagh.
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97547465/a-brief-history-of-winston-raymond-peters
        
        You really need to up your performance zeddy. Not only are your allegations easily rebutted, but you’ve become a bore.
        
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        July 19, 2018 11:56am
      - ztev
        
        Peters wasnt intern or holiday job at RMcV
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:18pm
    - peterwn
      
      Those are just as **real** jobs as other jobs including all the rough and tumble of being a junior. And despite the recent issues concerning Russel McVeagh interns, there will still be plenty of law students putting their hands up to be interns confident that they can deal with lecherous senior staff.
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:47pm
      - ztev
        
        Being so young and vulnerable they can always find a shoulder to cry on with Bishop….the RMcV interns that is
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:20pm
  - niggly
    
    Now hes NZs first ‘middle age adjacent’ MP who likes to think hes hip and cool
    
    Now, now please don’t be sexist Ztev!
    
    Everybody knows that Jacinda was and still is “NZs first ‘middle age adjacent’ MP who likes to think shes hip and cool” – since 2008 and will be forever!
    
    Even when she’s a granny she will still have her dj headphones on, be photographed visiting schools and gracing the cover’s of No Idea – she’ll like to be NZ’s equivalent of Jane Fonda tinged with a bit of Cher – seemingly ageless but without their talent!
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:42am
    - igm
      
      And a mind full of vile socialism!
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:51am
    - Flash
      
      I thought she was ‘youth adjacent’ –
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:03am
      - sooty
        
        Not any more, she ain’t. A middle aged solo mum, is what she is.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:16pm
  - KiWombat
    
    I thought I said goodbye to you this morning when I flushed the toilet !
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:43am
    - niggly
      
      Apparently “(z)they(v)” are so full of hot air that they rise up to the surface again!
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:47am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    You have to give ztev full marks for tenacity in coming here every day making a succession of stupid comments defending his labour heroes but only ends up making an arse of himself time after time after time.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:53am
    - kevn
      
      @CM… Not himself, “themselves”. z’s are multi person blog monitors and serial googlers.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:35am
      - ztev
        
        Im a ‘one and only’ and just a g.o.a.t
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:03am
      - KiWombat
        
        If you’re gonna be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you’re just an ass !
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:07am
- Justitia
  
  Winston was speaking up for New Zealand’s unique culture, not the neo-Marxist fraud of multiculturalism. Bishop’s response was cringeworthy. National are falling over themselves to be “progressive”. Goodbye National.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Peter’s can choose National all he likes, we have seen how his choices pan out. I will be surprised if the National team give him the opportunity to present his pitch.
  
  Actually, I bet they will will listen to him just to prolong the satisfaction of telling the pos to foxtrot oscar
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:24am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Slater is to political blogging what TV1 is to television news.
  Why do you bother reading it?
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:44am
  - rockape
    
    Sadly that site has degenerated into cut and paste of 2 day old news. Even Judith isnt talking to him these days!
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:02am
    - ztev
      
      Arent you paying for and reading his ‘premium content’ ?
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:19am
  - brett68
    
    I have a feeling he won’t be around much longer.
    
    https://yournz.org/2018/06/01/blomfield-v-slater-trial-date-set/
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:16am
    - ztev
      
      Was that all about the business emails that Slater used after he ‘obtained someones elses hard drive’
      
      Too funny really for the former databank computer operator and bankrupted security company owner
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:21am
      - ztev
        
        “” Each of the blogs was published between 3 May and 6 June 2012. They occurred after Mr Slater came into possession of a hard drive containing emails sent to or by Mr Blomfield. Other material was also stored on the hard drive, including photographs of Mr Blomfield’s family.”
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:27am
    - peterwn
      
      No one says bankrupts cannot run blogs. As long as some one else looks after the business side and ‘Spanish Bride’ is quite capable of this.
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:51pm
- Liberty
  
  “Instead choose National.”
  The last thing National needs is a doddery old Git.
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:13am
duggledog

Middle NZ is crying out for a politician who calls out this disturbing habit we have of importing hundreds of thousands of chattering third worlders.

It just can’t be Winston.
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July 19, 2018 8:07am
- igm
  
  duggle: See dozens of them being given new furnished homes in Christchurch. What do leeching homeless (of their own volition) Labour/Green supporters think of that?
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:09am
- Albert_Ross
  
  We haven’t got a habit of importing hundreds of thousands of chattering third worlders.
  
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  July 19, 2018 11:27am
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Well what do you know. Bill English created a working group in his last months

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In the heat of the election campaign, under-fire Prime Minister Bill English put experts to work on how to solve the problem of taxing water for export.’

English asked a group of independent technical experts for advice on who would charge for water and what they could charge. They were asked to report back in November – kicking the contentious issue into the long grass until after the election.

But now Stuff can reveal no report was ever written – despite the consultants being paid more than $500-a-day for their time’

Ahh Bill from the Tax Working group after the 2008 election to the Water tax working group just weeks before the 2017 one.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105410906/water-experts-cost-80000–but-wheres-their-report
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July 19, 2018 8:09am
- igm
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:10am
- Poppa
  
  Morning Ztev
  
  So how much are we spending on the 120 working groups commissioned by your mates?
  
  Millions!!
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:18am
  - ztev
    
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    Similar number to those created by national in their first 6 months, and even in their last months. hahahaha
    of course Bills real instincts were to do nothing but the weekly polls were saying it was a ‘hot issue’ so a working group which was always intended to do nothing was born
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:22am
    - Poppa
      
      That is a weak effort Ztev
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:24am
      - igm
        
        What would one expect from the viagra-crazed loser?
        
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        July 19, 2018 8:41am
    - Local Miller
      
      Chapter and verse please. What are the actual numbers for National in the first 6 Months? And the source so the numbers can be verified.
      
      Since you make this claim the onus is on you to substantiate it.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:10am
      - sooty
        
        Ain’t Labour up to 143?
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:19am
  - Harkman
    
    Remember Labour party leader Phil(-in) Goof (and man he was a joke) decrying National’s use consultants to work out what needed cutting after Labour left an unsustainable level of state spending during an economic crisis? Labour are remarkably quite nowadays. You do realise that governance via committee is actually is actually a form of fascism?
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:43am
    - ztev
      
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      Didint leave unsustainable spending- they were using normal tactics of economic stimulus in time of falling private activity. Plus their tax cuts
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:29am
      - labrator
        
        The old “normal tactics” argument. Normal only for Keynesian acolytes. My wages don’t cover my mortgage so I’m going to borrow more money to paint the house.
        
        Only normal to people that think huge amounts of debt is better than increasing productivity.
        
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        July 19, 2018 11:32am
  - backster
    
    Pop…You are behind the times 145 at last count.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:55am
    - Poppa
      
      Sorry, they are commissioned so fast I have lost count
      
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      July 19, 2018 10:28am
- Colville
  
  $500/day.
  
  Wow.
  
  About what a 2nd year apprentice gets charged out at.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:19am
  - ztev
    
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    Charge out rates arent money in the hand like these were for say 4-5hrs of actual work
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:24am
    - Colville
      
      If a tradie could get 4 or 5 hours of actual work out of a 2nd year apprentice they would be happy!
      
      Too much time on the phone or thinking about where they might next put their cock!
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:26am
    - igm
      
      What would you know about money and work? Having lived a life leeching off taxpayers.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:53am
  - Paulus
    
    Believe Cullen – call me Sir, gets $2,000 a day plus all expenses.
    He lives in the Bay of Plenty so travels extensively.
    He was a failure under Clark so remains a bitter old man determined to get his own back on New Zealand – like Peters.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:25am
    - ztev
      
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      heard of the Cullen Fund ?
      he put about $7-9 bill of taxpayers money into it – but national stopped contributions- and now its worth over $40 bill for the taxpayers
      
      Oh and they paid down the debt during their 9 years.
      English ramped up government debt to over $80 bill in his 9 years, even in the last 3 years adding another $20 bill to the pile.
      never made an effort to pay down the borrowing was thinking of tax cuts in a boom !!
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:36am
      - 4077th
        
        GFC, Earthquakes.. Low blow and you know it twonk!
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:57am
      - ztev
        
        What about last 3 years ?
        canterbury quake was a hit of about $ 9 bill only and most of that was clawed back by rebuilds and insurance payouts GST payments.
        What about last 3 years , why was $6-7 bill still being borrowed like last year and why wasnt $5-6 bill being used to pay down debt each year like Cullen was doing in good years.
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:04pm
      - 4077th
        
        Kaikoura anyone?
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:24pm
  - Local Miller
    
    Yup, about $62.50 an hour for an 8 hour day. Not a hell of a lot for a consultant worth his salt.
    
    Also if the report was due in November, surely the onus was on the incoming government to collect it, not the National Party? If the report hasn’t been delivered then Liebour is at fault for not following up, since these working groups are at a government level, not at a party level.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:14am
    - ztev
      
      They needed more time …. anyway these things are given terms of reference at the beginning so cant be hurried along.
      The reality it was a political dodge so English could claim to be ‘doing something’
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:40am
  - Flash
    
    Someone was on radio last week – appointed to a committee – and said that it was $600/day and estimated 80 day’s work during the life of the committee. $48,000. As Chairman, he would get more –
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:21am
- flipper
  
  what a moron the piece of excre….. zetev is.,
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:22am
- starboard
  
  The biggest joke is that ex liarbor mp and trougher David Caygill was the chairman of that lazy inept over paid working group.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:54am
secondcumming

Things ain’t looking good for Julian…..

Is the side-door of Ecuador’s Embassy about to hit Wikileak’s founder Julian Assange in the arse?

The BBC are reporting there are growing signs that Ecuador’s President Lenin Moreno is preparing to evict Assange and turn him over to the British Police.

Ahead of his visit to the UK next month, President Moreno has confirmed he is in negotiations with the British Government to finally ‘resolve’ the fate of Assange, who he has described as a ‘problem’…and ‘like a stone in the shoe’.

It appears under the Moreno government, Assange is no longer welcome in Ecuador.

Reported to be in ill health, Julian’s only hope now is safe passage to his native Australia, or to any other country willing to grant him asylum.
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July 19, 2018 8:12am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  Julian’s become the adult child you can’t move out and who never helps around the house.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:22am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Says things that you are not comfortable with and then sulks in his room when the flaws in his argument are pointed out to him.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:28am
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  It could be time for the mule toothed communist to step in and offer Mr Arssange safe passage to NZ. He would be a wonderful symbol for the labour party, and a wonderful addition to future labour youth camps…….just saying
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:32am
  - 4077th
    
    He could flat with Dave Dobbyn’s mate Achmed Zowie… Welcome home..from the bottom of my heart…FFS
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:01am
flipper

Meanwhile, in a Western nation of 330,000,000 (v ours of LESS than 5 million) the Putin nonsense continues ….
The hysteria and melt-down over Trump and Putin is unbelievable…except that Trump is the target.
As I said yesterday, is it difficult to be more idiotic, to purvey more TDS, to ignore a raft of historical facts dating back to King Democrat FDR, when he gave Eastern Europe to Stalin, and all the dozens of matters similar, to produce the anti-Trump bullsh** of the past 36 hours ?????

The Helsinki event was a 2 hour , one on one meeting, between Trump and Putin.
Then followed a piddly arse media scrum.

If issues are raised, argued and/or settled during/at such a meeting does the MSM and gutless ABTers have a right to claim that the scrum was the totality????
There were f***wits like CNN’s Acosta telling the world what had been discussed/ said. Did the USSS miss his hidden eyeball camera and mini mike? That is an example of the MSN and commentariat crap we are expected to accept.
We are supposed to believe that election meddling outweighs thermonuclear war and likely missile “misunderstandings” between the two most powerful nations?
Are we expected to believe that the USA has never done just that to other nations?
Ask Israel about the sanctimonious Obama’s Israeli general election shame. Ask him about Cuba …. And more.
The USA is NOT lily white. Never has been; never will be. So, talk all you want about head explosions. Such comments are garbage.

It is 74 years since the us and SU (Joe S) first met. Every proposed US_SU/Rus summit meeting is subject to sabotage attempts. For example, Eisenhower’s meeting with Khrushchev was cancelled when someone countered his specific orders to stop all U2 over flights until after the meeting.
I met Francis Gary Powers in Houston in 1970 when he signed my copy of his memoirs. In a 15-20 min conversation, Powers told me that he had been ordered to stand down. Then, quite unexpectedly, he was summoned to make the flight on which he was shot down. He said he never found out what actually happened. But he did say that his book had been censored by “powerful interests”.
So, take all the MSM and commentariat, TDSers and ABTers and send them to Mars …yesterday.
Rant mode off ?
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July 19, 2018 8:16am
- ztev
  
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  ‘Gave eastern Europe to Stalin’ Pull the other one, The Red Army took it and the US wasnt going to take it off them
  . There was a bit of deals around the fringes where the Brits got the upper hand in Greece- meddling we would call it these days.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:27am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Except that the US and Brits could have reached Berlin first, and could have occupied a lot more of Germany than they did. Except they adhered to the agreement FDR made and also sent significant forces off on a wild goose chase to Southern Germany looking for the mythical “last redoubt”.
    
    And it depends on what you mean by “meddling”, the Greek Communists attempted to overthrow what government there was and establish a communist dictatorship by force – in fact not dissimilar to the way that the communists took over the governments in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and the like. That was all by force with at best limited opposition by the US or Britain.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:10am
    - 4077th
      
      It should not surprise you that Ztrev is blind to any communist incursions as it not in the instruction camp manual to undermine the cause!
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:07am
    - ztev
      
      The communists had a civil war in Greece against the national government with US help
      In eastern Europe the Red Army installed the party into government.
      As for reaching Berlin for the West ? I bet all the experts like Beevoir , Hastings and others dont agree with you.
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:39pm
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      Well the west supported them militarily, technically and materialy during the war, so its hard to say that the west didn’t support the soviet union. They also divided up europe as a sort of ‘spoils of war’ afterwards.
      
      Then the USA and the rest of europe continued to finance the USSR through oil sales and the like.
      
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      July 19, 2018 6:21pm
      - realityczech
        
        “divided up europe”
        
        Yes giving the murderous Soviets control over much of it.
        
        That demonstrates clearly that the war against Germany had nothing at all to do with freeing Europe from Tyranny.
        
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        July 19, 2018 6:26pm
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Well we can only go by public record, according to NATO the public record is that:
        
        “Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay was NATO’s first Secretary General, a position he was initially reluctant to accept. By the end of his tenure however, Ismay had become the biggest advocate for the organisation he famously said was created to “keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.””
        
        https://www.nato.int/cps/us/natohq/declassified_137930.htm
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:03pm
- Holly Roggerz
  
  The attacks on trump, the attempts by the clintons to rig the election, the voter fraud, the FBI, DOJ the never trumpers and the people that want to abolish ICE, abolish the US borders all of these people need to wake up and get a grip on the reality.
  
  They lost the election, the american people don’t believe their lies, they shouldn’t have wiretapped the trump campaign, the lieing press shouldn’t have feed hillary clinton the debate qustions, the state shouldnt have filed fake made-up charges, and they certainly shouldn’t continue.
  
  There is no crime of collusion, the evidence to start the investigation was brought and paid for by hillary clinton, the person that submitted it knowing this commited purjury, they haven’t got one shred of evidence against trump, the investigation has far exceeded its authority, there is no limitation on its scope. And it needs to stop.
  
  This is a witch hunt, and all those people who support this should be ashamed. Did Trump meet Putin yes. Are the MSM in the US comparing this to pearl harbour, 9/11 and the like yes. Some of them are calling him hitler. They are basically calling for him to be hung as a traitor.
  
  These people are litterally mentally ill, and they are in the US senate, they are in the US congress, they sit as judges in courts, they are the media presentors, editors, they are important powerfull people, and they are so deluded they think they can stand up and say that this is the same as 911.
  
  You know what by the time the mid-terms roll arround and they somehow ratchet up their mad ravings not one decent american will believe a word of what these disgusting people say. Trump is going to steamroll them in the mid-terms.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:29am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    There’s an awful lot of people who hate Trump much more than they love USA.
    Despite the damage their contrarianism is doing, they insist on calling Trump treasonous.
    Irony much.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:38am
  - KevOB
    
    Yes. He is smart enough to ignore them while they get on with self destruction. The longer they continue the more farcical it becomes.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:46am
    - Rich Prick
      
      You really have to see them to believe how deranged they have become. No wonder the more intelligent ones are walking away. I think the Democratic Party runs a real risk of becoming nothing more than pockets of mental health patients in California, Oregon, Washington, New York and those funny little north eastern states.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:15am
      - ztev
        
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        Hilary had more than pockets
        
        3 million more voters than Trump
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:08am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Yes, those 3 million extra voters plus $1.25 buys you a coffee at a cheap diner.
        
        Get over it, she was and remains utterly toxic, a corrupt politician with a serious alcohol problem and no known relationship with truth and honesty.
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:15am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Yet Hillary is the one throwing empty vodka bottles at the walls while wondering “what happened”.
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:19am
      - ztev
        
        truth and honesty?
        We have seen in the last few days where Trump has had to describe his own words as fake, multiple times.
        Summits dont seem to show his fabulous deal making as much as he thought …. Duh
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:24pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        3 million more voters than Trump
        
        Just has National has nine more MP’s than Labour, but isn’t the government, right ztev? Both countries have a system for electing their leaders and despite winning California and New York handsomely, Clinton didn’t have the numbers. Get over it.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:40pm
      - stigie
        
        Gawd, that will piss the ztrev off KS, how the hell can he come back from that…..oh wait, with obfuscation and bloody lies !~
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:54pm
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Oh Ztev, still counting all those illegals! Why not just lump all the rest of mexico in that assertion and just assuume they would all vote against trump…
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:17pm
  - backster
    
    They are called the Deep State and they are fighting to maintain dominance.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:05am
  - 4077th
    
    This is a long video but well worth a watch. Peter Strzok “explaining” himself in front of congress last week. When I say “explaining” I mean not saying anything at all. The disruption by the Dems is just disgusting. Trey Gowdy is a smart guy and obviously staggered by the willingness of the FBI to silence such outrageous bias.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3vPLYQQLw
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:14am
    - Komata
      
      4077th
      
      Agree about Mr Strzok. However, what puzzles me is how Trey Gowdy has apparently, and quite suddenly, become a Mueller supporter, a very peculiar change of stance from an individual who was at one time very definitely in the Pro-Trump / Anti Mueller camp and made no bones about his Trump support.
      
      I would not have considered him to be a RINO, but as a result of his support for Mueller, have come to the conclusion that in fact he may be of that ilk.
      
      Any idea why this may have happened?
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:57am
      - ztev
        
        The evidence points to Trump Collusion ?
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:22pm
      - 4077th
        
        I’m pretty sure his views on Mueller are probably unchanged. What is obvious is that Mueller rightly removed Strzok from the investigations (albeit way too late) and that brought about Gowdy’s praise. It also gave the godhead for Gowdy and congress to delve further into the bias and the nature of the TXT messages. Interestingly, Mueller sighted optics rather than blatant bias as the reason for removing Strzok. I don’t blame the republicans for going all in on Strzok regardless of his protestations that it was only his opinion. It goes to the heart of the FBI’s supposed non bias approach to investigations.
        
        The Dem’s approach is weak in that any discussions could compromise any on-going investigation..a moot point IMO because the investigations were already compromised by Strzok from the get go. They bring this up time and again and the Chairman rightly tells them to shove it as those rules go out the window when in front of congress hence the reason for the interview. Gowdy had however made similar claims so does not hold a position of consistency on this matter but does, never the less, have control of the present argument.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:23pm
- Harkman
  
  I had to laugh at the American lefty morons yesterday when Laura Ingraham played a clip of Obama meeting Xi only days after China hacked into the US military and stealing billions in actual security and much more. Did Obama stand up President Xi and give him a right bollocking in front of the press? “Nooooo” (said in a Billy Connelly voice).
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:52am
  - All_on_Red
    
    They stole the identities and personal information of 22 million State and Federal employees
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:39am
    - stephieboy
      
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      All on Wed, what fangled conspiracy is this sourced from? Soros voting machines?Pizzagate?Clinton Body count, Seth Rich?
      
      DUH !
      
      LOL
      
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      July 19, 2018 10:27am
      - pentwig
        
        oh great!
        stupidboy is back to provide mirth and be sent to blog oblivion again today for its inane comments
        
        LOL
        
        DUH
        
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        July 19, 2018 11:05am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        The old “provide references” sqwarking from the KB galah.
        
        Try this:
        
        https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/scalise-digs-obama-dirt-uses-it-completely-destroy-trumps-russia-critics/
        
        Alt-right
        Trumpeters
        
        Oooo Stormy
        LOL
        
        There, saved you the trouble.
        Got anything sensible to say?
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:32pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-hacked-7-of-america-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:42pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chinese-hackers-breach-federal-governments-personnel-office/2015/06/04/889c0e52-0af7-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html?utm_term=.0624098cf4dc
        
        Let me know when you have enough references SetphieBoy.
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:43pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2016/05/08/did-china-just-steal-360-billion-from-america/#3795cd5376d5
        
        Did Obama give China a public dressing down?
        No, he “reached an understanding”.
        Who called Obama a traitor?
        Who accused him of treason?
        
        Tumbleweeds.
        
        Got enough references yet Galah?
        Or are you trawling Google for a whataboutism?
        
        DUH
        LOL
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:48pm
Liberty

This Sunday the 22nd of July will see Coasters protest about the decree from Minister Sage that there will be no more mining on conservation estate. (This includes stewardship land)
The impact will be huge and Coasters are asked to attend the opening of the Taramakau Bridge, and celebrate the completion of the bridge by Fulton Hogan under time and under budget.
The truck protest leaves Greymouth at 11am and will return to Greymouth by 12pm.
The bridge opening is at 2.15pm at the northern end of the bridge.
After the official walk across the bridge those that want to express their views and support industry will wear high-vis-vests and assemble to hear the speakers.
If you are a red neck and want to make trouble STAY AT HOME.
This is Coasters sending a message to Wellington and is the first of four planned.
http://www.thecoastersclub.co.nz.
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July 19, 2018 8:18am
- Paulus
  
  Sage is so thick and deluded she would think the meeting was to say how wonderful she is.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:28am
  - kevn
    
    @Paulus…. JAG would take some beating on that front. A FIGJAM type.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:40am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Oh I see. Same coasters who voted for Labour big time? If 10 people turn up call it a victory. Move on bro.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:44am
  - rockape
    
    The majority of Coasters voted National as they have done since 2005!
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:08am
    - ztev
      
      Most of Electorate is in Tasman region up to the rural area around nelson, not ‘the coast’
      
      As for the 2017 party vote , ‘majority of electorate didnt vote national’ as they were only 40% while O’Connor had 49% of the candidate vote.
      
      You are making false claim
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:16pm
      - ztev
        
        National has never had more than 50% ever in WC-T
        
        The word you are looking for is plurality – look it up
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:19pm
      - rockape
        
        They may not have voted Pugh in great numbers but National had more than 1000 party votes mote than Labour! So you are claiming candidate votes as votes for the party. Time you understood how the electoral system in NZ works!
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:59pm
      - Liberty
        
        ztev
        No you are wrong as usual
        National 15,122
        Labour 14,015
        
        This is after the Princess on her vote buying tour promised a new Hospital in westport
        
        Before the election
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        Labour’s $20 million commitment to a full rebuild of Buller Hospital, if elected, was music to the ears of those fighting the National government’s plans for a private-public partnership.
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11935269
        
        After the election
        
        “The whole process has been a public relations disaster. The attitude of the many outsiders involved has been condescending and smug ‘as they clip the ticket’.”
        The Labour Government, and especially Mr O’Connor, who hails from Westport, had “gone quiet” over the whole issue, Ms Halsall-Quinlan said.
        Politicians “initially exploited (it) for their own political gain”.
        “Their pre-election promise of a $20m hospital, which included elderly care, along with robust consultation, has been conveniently forgotten.”
        https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/west-coast/concerns-over-lack-hospital-progress
        
        I suspect there will be a lot of disgruntled labour voters at the protest.
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:55pm
      - ztev
        
        40% of the party vote Liberty isnt a ‘majority of the votes cast’
        Like I said a majority didnt vote national.
        What you are referring to , 15k is a plurality of the 36k votes, ie the largest.
        
        You really should know your english better, a majority of the votes can only ever be more than 50%
        
        Labour doesnt have a majority of the votes either, O’Connor coming very close with 49%
        
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        July 19, 2018 3:45pm
      - Liberty
        
        Ztev
        Rockape is correct National has the majority of the vote.
        National 15,122 is more than Labour 14,015
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:08pm
- rockape
  
  OOps didnt see this until I posted the same. See you there!
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:06am
AgainstTheFlow

The Stupid is strong in this one…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/105561405/why-selfproclaimed-free-speech-champions-arent-helping-the-cause

Glenn McConnell joins the SpinOff’s Hayden Donnell on the list.
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July 19, 2018 8:20am
- Huevon
  
  How easily we put back on our chains.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:24am
- Justitia
  
  Yes that column is one small step away from kicking the heads in of those you disagree with. The Free Speech Coalition’s campaign has proved a useful enema for flushing out the petty neo-Marxist thugs and academic fascists among us.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:25am
- oldgolfer
  
  The stupid is very strong in this one (I posted on this below, too, sorry).
  Indeed, it is fair to say the stupid is overwhelming.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:28am
- The Heat
  
  Amusing how he is doing the exact thing he rallies against.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:30am
- KevOB
  
  Summarised:
  If you don’t like what someone else says they should shut up.
  
  What free speech?
  What journalism–I forgot circulation is falling, falling,falling…
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:53am
  - Justitia
    
    And yet each day the Dimpost contrives to reach new lows. They’re now publishing comment from juveniles like Master McConnell as they obviously can no longer pay adult rates.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:28am
- calendar girl
  
  From “Stuff”:
  
  “Glenn McConnell is a journalist and student. He writes a fortnightly column for Stuff.”
  
  Who or what defines a “journalist”? Is he a professional or an amateur journalist? Is he being paid by Stuff to write his columns, or is it “free of charge” material to the struggling publisher?
  
  So many questions in the world of those who want to make claims for their own version of free speech.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:07am
  - backster
    
    Hard to believe that even a primary school graduate couldn’t write a more intelligent column.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:21am
- Philview
  
  Stuff shut down the comments on that pretty quickly. Not getting the response they thought. The writer forgot to mention that Phil Goff had a 2 pronged strategy. 1) He said he found the speakers views abhorrent 2) He wanted to protect them from left wing militant thugs. So basically the Left dictate what free speech is and also have the threat of violence to enforce it.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:35am
  - The Heat
    
    The comments and upvotes were interesting. Almost exclusively in support of free speech, and those that I saw that weren’t didn’t offer an argument – just usual regressive-left parroting and mindless cheerleading.
    
    I think the regressive-left have really shot themselves in the foot over this one. Had this event gone ahead without protest, few would have heard of these two. Now many people know about them, and many people will be aware of the true nature of the fascist regressive left in New Zealand.
    
    Win.
    
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    July 19, 2018 3:44pm
  - The Heat
    
    Latte sipping regressives = 0
    Free speech in New Zealand = 1
    
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    July 19, 2018 3:46pm
Scott

Conrad Black writes about why Trump is right about trying to improve relations with Russia. This seems like a good goal as far as many of us are concerned. Why should Trump not want to improve American relations with Russia and avoid another Cold War?

Squared up against him he has the Democratic party and the mainstream media and the entire foreign policy establishment. But Trump is right. America should improve relations with Russia. The claims of Russian interference with the election are risible. Apparently Russians bought $10 million worth of Facebook ads which almost nobody saw.

When this dies down, which it will, Trump will be shown to be right about wanting to improve relations with Russia. Who knows peace may break out?

https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/18/trump-will-win-this-round-with-the-deep-state/
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July 19, 2018 8:20am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Peace may break out? Good, but then what are the Dems going to explode about? I’m sure they will find another angle for TDS
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:33am
EAD_TWO

I am just sick and tired of the barbaric Middle Eastern religions and their intolerance – whether it be firebombing Christian churches, spitting @ Christians or mobs of them chasing and screaming at terrified girls due to their “immodest attire”.

https://www.jta.org/2018/07/18/default/haredi-mob-harasses-teenage-girl-beit-shemesh#.W09W6iPsLQk.twitter

A haredi Orthodox mob chased a teenage girl down a main thoroughfare in the Jerusalem suburb of Beit Shemesh due to her “immodest” attire.

In a video of Monday’s incident, the girl can be seen running down Nahar Hayarden Street, chased by what appears to be dozens of screaming men in haredi Orthodox garb.
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July 19, 2018 8:21am
- secondcumming
  
  Looks like she could do with a bit of exercise anyway 🙂
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:32am
EAD_TWO

The vibrant enrichers have found new ways to rob Whitey in France on the bus – just watch – you really have to see it to believe the absolute state of the place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO97h4dL1dI

But hey – at least they have the World Cup 🙂
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July 19, 2018 8:26am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Police not able to stop this, or not willing to stop it?
  Coming to a place near you soon, if we continue to allow the scum in
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:39am
- Rich Prick
  
  Welcome to France, pardon our Muslims.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:01am
oldgolfer

This is leading Stuff:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/105561405/why-selfproclaimed-free-speech-champions-arent-helping-the-cause
It is faintly ironic that in down-crying the Freedom of Speech coalition’s views, this young man is using a public forum to express his.
His (il)logic is if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it.
Oh, please.
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July 19, 2018 8:27am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  Advice from a kindergarten playpen.
  He’ll be on Jacinda’s press team very soon.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:35am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Stuff are closing down comments really, really fast these days aren’t they? But not before the first two comments, both completely opposed to the writer’s case, had amassed nearly eight hundred upticks between them
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:14am
  - Philview
    
    I just noticed the same about the comments quickly being closed and on an article on free speech of all things. I don’t think I have ever seen so many upticks on a comment on Stuff.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:43am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      And now the comments section has been removed altogether! You couldn’t make it up!
      
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      July 19, 2018 1:25pm
- Philview
  
  Also the Lauren Southern talk was cancelled per Goff to protect the speakers. This means left wing militants could turn up with violent intent. The left dictate what is free speech and are prepared to use violence to enforce it.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:49am
duggledog

Trump / Putin is fascinating. Especially given the context of Trump baring his buttocks to the E.U. and effectively advising the U.K. they have a mong for a PM on the same trip.

What the hell is going on I have no idea and neither do you and neither does Winston Peters.

But I keep wondering whether this is all about China, as China is what Trump’s presidency is all about.

Could it be Trump is actually using Putin as opposed to the other way around? Raybon Kan a comedian on Jim Mora’s The Panel said yesterday Trump is Putin’s bitch, I can’t believe that.

Russia is nothing, it’s a broke-ass large freezer full of alcoholics.

Maybe Trump is simply grooming Putin and Kim Jong Un to isolate China and maybe even Iran into the deal. Doesn’t hurt to give the EU its oats as well they have needed a good slap for decades now.

I have to admit the two gentlemen who like chicks and beer and doing men stuff looked exactly like a person who has an amazing hand in poker.
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July 19, 2018 8:27am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  Excuse me they have a mad man for a Primeminister. She said no to the Pope on Alfie Evans who was a boy that died after the state pulled his life support, posted armed guards outside his room, and refused to let his parents take him out of the NHS to a real hospital that would give real treatment. Then she skited about it on national TV. Who does that? The Pope was very nice not to object much more strongly…
  
  She lied in her inaugeration about Brexit, she lied about the early election she called where the conservatives lost nearly all their majority, she just proposed to a Brexit deal where the only thing that would change is that Britian would loose its rights to Veto legislation and have MEPs in the european parliament but would otherwise remain in the EU as a vassal state.
  
  And now she has sent her second in command over the fence to the opposition to drum up the votes needed to implement her policies given she now has no support in her own party. She has already had parliament suspended once over a rebellion in her party.
  
  Meanwhile 2 of the 4 most senior party members have resigned their posts. And its telling what sort of a person she is when she adjourns parliament early, basically suspends parliament to derail attempts to oust her. And now she is threatening her party and saying that as prime minister legally she can call an election faster than they can remove her from office, so she will call a snap election…
  
  Infact twice as many people 40% of all people would rather a no-deal hard brexit as opposed to her ‘deal’ than think she should continue as PM (20%) and that 60% that think otherwise is comprised mainly of hardline Remoaners. And your telling me they don’t have the worst prime mininister in the history of the UK, and I am including cromwell in this assertion?
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:43am
- Harkman
  
  What did Russia actually get out of the meeting? Nothing really. Everything is still against them, behind the scenes Putin was actually trying to get Trump to let US companies invest in Russia. What is bad for Russia is that Trump, who was willing to be friendly, came away burned and will likely be less cordial in future, which is again bad for Russia.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:58am
DigNap15

Gee, Haley Holt is pretty Hot.
And I’m not normally a fan of blondes.
I watched TV! Breakfast today for the first time in ages.
It took me a while to work out who she was, but she is very attractive, well dressed and seem quite intelligent.
I like Jack Tame, but I just wish he’d stop with the Te Reo (whatever that is)
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July 19, 2018 8:29am
- Fletch
  
  IKR?
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:36am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Go see a doctor, and do not watch a channel with a number less than 10. You will feel much better, I promise
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:43am
- niggly
  
  DigNap – isn’t Ms Holt another “fake” blonde? As for intelligent, please watch a few more episodes and you’ll soon see why the stereotypical “blonde” persona is just perfect for her!
  
  Jack Tame’s ok, as in he surprises Leftie interview subjects by sometimes going full-retard on them. Ms Holt would never do such a thing even if they are being hypocrites – it would wreck her aspiring wannabe Green Party MP credentials!
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:10am
  - starboard
    
    Is Jack Tame part mouldy?
    Why does he speak stone age?
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:16am
Maggy Wassilieff

Ozzie print media falling on hard times
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-18/fairfax-and-news-corp-agree-to-share-printing-facilities/10007442

Can’t be too long before Fairfax pulls the plug in NZ.
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July 19, 2018 8:33am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, I wonder where the big print advertisers have gone. Eg years ago supermarkets had two page ads, car dealers, and furniture etc.
  I don’t think they are putting their money on Google, or are they?
  Yes the big newspapers are dying.
  But I think there is still a market for the small, local giveaways, we have two here in Tauranga, and one fo them is quite thick (no of pages ie)
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:39am
- ztev
  
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  Revenues for Stuff in NZ were in the area of $350 mill with profit around $50 mill.
  Thats what you could call unbelievably profitable
  
  NZME was around $390 mill revenue and $70 mill profit ( when taking out accounting provisions from its demerger from APN)
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:45am
  - AgainstTheFlow
    
    Ztev, do you Google this data or is it already in your files?
    Genuine question.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:55am
    - igm
      
      Those figures are incorrect . . . Ztrev is a charlatan with commercial acumen of a clown.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:58am
      - AgainstTheFlow
        
        Perhaps, but I’m interested in his answer.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:15am
      - kevn
        
        @igm…. google does z’s thinking for them.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:41am
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    Easy to make money like that when you don’t have to pay for real journalism and just get all your journalism from the AP, Press Statements and various left-wing NGOs. The News practically writes itself!
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:57am
Fletch

Probably the best thing I’ve read on Trump, Putin, and Helsinki –

Which brings me to what happened Monday in Helsinki.

Once again, and this time with the help of that dirty cop, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the establishment media and the Deep State believed they had rigged events to a point where Trump was cornered, where he would have no choice but to publicly berate Putin on the national stage for the sin of “interfering in our elections.”

What the media wanted was to emotionally blackmail Trump into creating an international scene, a YouTube moment with Putin, where the president would violate every diplomatic norm to publicly shame and berate the Russian president.

Why do you think Dirty Cop Mueller dropped his kangaroo indictment (more on this below) just a few days before the Putin summit? It was all coordinated and staged, it was the behavior of spoiled children desperate to get their way.

Wisely, for the good of his country and out respect for the truth, Trump refused to jump in the trap. And now the spoiled children who once again did not get what they want, are having a national tantrum. And moral cowards, like House Speaker Paul Ryan (God bless Rand Paul), are terrified of these spoiled media babies and are seeking only to appease them.

Nevertheless, what really happened is this: Trump showed the gangster Putin that he is his own man, that he cannot be bullied by America’s corrupt political and media establishment into behaving in a certain way, that he is willing to take those flaming arrows to do what he thinks is right, which, in this case, is to never forget the lessons of Iraq.

Keep in mind that what Trump was supposed to do Monday was to drink the Kool-Aid, was to believe our Intelligence Community (IC) got it 100 percent right about Russian meddling, was to throw diplomacy out the window and publicly embarrass Putin.

Thankfully, Trump refused to do that, and now the spoiled children, just as they did after Charlottesville, are again lying and claiming Trump “sided with Putin,” when the only thing Trump’s guilty of is remaining diplomatic, which is the whole point of a summit expressly arranged to facilitate peace.

What is so incredible is that, in this the year 2018, after the intelligence catastrophe that was Iraq, after learning the IC was actively meddling in the 2016 election using Kremlin-fed propaganda in the form of a dossier, only a crazy man would swallow whole what the IC is telling him, and only a dangerously weak man would risk damaging relations with Russia further in order to symbolically appease the IC.

There’s more, and it is worth reading the whole thing.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/17/nolte-helsinki-is-one-of-trumps-finest-moments/
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  Total garbage…. Trump is just a clown on the international stage… as was shown by him having to deny his words to a Murdoch paper which was published in Britain.
  Now hes having to deny his words he spoke while in helsinki
  
  How the Hell did even a ‘deep state arrange’ a summit with Putin when it was all Trumps idea in the first place. This wasnt one of those things that were an ordinary part of the diplomatic circuit
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:39am
  - KiWombat
    
    If you’re trying to improve the world, you should start with yourself. Nothing needs more help than you do !
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:47am
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    Yeah because clowns totaly defeated the greatest fighting force the middle east has seen since Saladin. Or get north korea to blow up their launch facilities, stop testing, stop provoking everyone without giving up anything?
    
    A clown also gets the EUs automobile industry to get the EU to go to trump and to tell trump they want to do a deal and to please not put tarrifs on one of their only real industries. We will see how the trade negotiations go when there are 25% tarrifs on all EU and Chinese goods. We will also see how smug trudeau is after he gets his 25% tarrifs.
    
    You know I think most countries really under-appreciate their trade with the US. Hopefully NZ will get some big tarrifs too, because we are protecting our materials industry, our agricultural industry, meat that is corn-feed in the states is as low as 1/3rd the prices we pay, we have some of the highest food prices in the world, we pay 30% more for our construction materials than Aus. If we could get our trade barriers knocked down it would be really good for the average man in this country!
    
    I suspect there will be major, major economic recession in both of those two countries, and billions of dollars come pouring back into the US building factories all across the rustbelt! They will probably neede to bring in some sort of a temporary work visa programme to find people to work in all these new factories!
    
    I think we could be entering a new age of american exceptionalism! And we could look back and think, why on earth did we think china was ever going to surpass america!
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:04am
    - KevOB
      
      The Chinese take a much longer view and plan accordingly. They have control of the Australian minerals. They are well imbedded throughout the Pacific states… On balance they are smarter.
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:39am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Well 50% of the chinese economy is housing starts, re-exports and outright fraud. Strip that away and economically they are more comparable to the true economic output of Japan or India and similar to what france or germany or the uk would have with full employment.
        
        The problem is the housing they are building isn’t built for people to live in, it is built as an investment, therefore the area is bad, the quality is low, people aren’t living in them, most of it is vacant, and wont last. The problem with that is that eventually people will realize that all this vaccant realestate (entire cities worth) is inherintly worthless people will go delinquint on their loans and default.
        
        The result will be a massive housing bubble, much larger than that of the US economies. Some reports say 60 million in 2016 vs 9 million in the US, but over half of all property sales in China go vaccant, we are probably talking well in excess of 100 million apartment foreclosures. And they have no resale value as they are built largely in sattelite cities, so workers have to commute great distances.
        
        Realistically if trump goes ahead and puts a 25% tax on 500bn of chinese exports to the US, and puts his revenue tax on all us firms goods produced in china, then it won’t be worth it for US companies (or any other countries companies that want to export to US) to produce in china, they might not move back to the us, but they will move somewhere. And doing this will pull the rug out from under chinas housing ponzi scheme. Overnight that is most of their economy gone.
        
        This would be the largest, sharpest economic recession for centuries! The economy would collapse, capital flight would kick in, the communist party would probably get overthrown and china itself would break up into many pieces like the soviet union did. The US would default on its debt to China and Trump would be imortalized as the greatest president in the history of america.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:11pm
  - KevOB
    
    Another instance of a mangled sound bite from an activist journos computer. Expect it to be denied.
    
    It has been denied. All is now at peace again. The crocs can return to the swamp until Mueller feeds then once more.
    Meanwhile the NZ Govt owned TV appears to be openly promoting the overthrow of the legitimate Govt of the USA. (I hope the COL doesn’t need any trade favours.)
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:08am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Got to say that Trumps Press Conferences on that trip were pretty shit.
    Sure The Sun, with a bit of selective editing, made him look bad.
    But he didn’t help himself with those poor performances live on TV.
    He just mumbled on. He should stick to short answers.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:48am
    - ztev
      
      he should stick to MAGA, still hasnt got a new jobs
      yearly number that exceeds those of Obamas last 4 years
      
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      July 19, 2018 10:13am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Possibly because he doesn’t have friends in the back room inventing those numbers for him. Participation rate is up after dropping every year under Obama.
        
        Face ztev, you’re trying to put gold glitter on a turd when you defend Obama. Worst.President.Ever.
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:29am
  - Flash
    
    Someone was on radio last week – appointed to a committee – and said that it was $600/day and estimated 80 day’s work during the life of the committee. $48,000. As Chairman, he would get more –
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:39am
    - GazzaW
      
      That was Chester Borrows.
      
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      July 19, 2018 2:28pm
EAD_TWO

A fascinating read:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/01/06/jewish-leftist-activism-in-childrens-fiction/

Intro

This article is the product of research originally conducted for a recent article titled “Jews, Obscenity, and the Legal System.” Given the significant amount of material discovered and the uniqueness of the subject matter, I decided there was enough material for an article devoted to children’s literature. During research for the obscenity essay, I consulted the American Library Association’s list of “Top 100 Banned/Challenged Books: 2000–2009” with a view to assessing the nature and extent of the Jewish presence. The first fact to become apparent was a marked Jewish over-representation in the production of books deemed controversial or perverse by parents, schools, and other institutions. Jews are notoriously shy of the census, but are probably somewhere between the 2.2% of the U.S. population suggested by the Pew Research Center and a maximum of around 5%. Even accepting a grain of truth in the apologetic argument that Jews are disproportionately attracted to literary professions (to say nothing about motive), one might very generously expect a Jewish representation of around 10 books on the ALA’s list.

However, my biographical checks on all authors on the list, some of which were indeterminate, revealed that 22 books on the ALA’s list were penned by 17 Jewish writers. Jews are thus significantly over-represented in producing contemporary literature deemed oppositional by the surrounding culture, and are even more radically over-represented when older, White-authored, entries such as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (now often opposed as ‘racist’) are taken out of consideration. Since the majority of entries on the list were children’s books, and taking into account my previous discoveries concerning Jewish manipulation of demand for ‘diverse books’ in the school system, it occurred to me that children’s literature is an important, but sometimes neglected, front in the cultural conflict we see played out daily.

This article is therefore intended as a brief introduction to some of the most pertinent personalities and themes in the area of Jewish Leftist activism in children’s fiction.
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July 19, 2018 8:37am
- stephieboy
  
  Eadolf, are JK Rowling, CS Lewis, Tolkien, Enid Blyton etc part of yet another vast Jewish ( literature ) conspiracy???
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:39am
  - realityczech
    
    stupidboy, Don’t mind Eddy. All he wants is equal treatment for all people, regardless of race, culture and religion.
    
    Eddy is one of the few regulars on KBB who I have never seen defend, incite, or demand, persecution and harm to others.
    
    For his brave and principled stand he gets called a Nazi by bigoted low lives.
    
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    July 19, 2018 12:30pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc , nazi bigot? Sums Eaolf to a tee! IMO
      
      Demonstrate to the contrary?
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:39pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy have you stopped beating your goat yet?
        
        Demonstrate to the contrary.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:42pm
MCos

This morning I looked at the Twitter feed and there seemed to be an endless & tiresome stream of opinions on whatever Trump is up to, both for & against.
Amongst all this weighty procrastination it was poignant to hear that the first boys to be rescued from the Chiangrai cave thought they would just bike home to their families to get food organised for when their mates got home.
It’s a pity all of life couldn’t be that simple.
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July 19, 2018 8:37am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, that’s what most people in the world want, food, a roof and a safe life.
  But then kings, criminals, politicians, wars, famine, disease, drought come along and ruin it.
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:42am
holysheet

Did you hear about Shane, who when he died was too big to fit in a coffin?
They gave him an enema and buried him in a shoebox.
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July 19, 2018 8:38am
- igm
  
  Thought it was Ztrev!
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:55am
VicParking

Tooth Fairy and Baby were are you. Red radio this morning was full of beat ups and bullshit stories.
In fact a small fire in a junk yard was top of the pops.
Surf break and kaimoana being destroyed. Interview totally different, its going to cross a might be a 500 year old Urupā.
Feral deported from Aus for cooking meth so he is unable to get money for being abused as a kid. Story had so many holes in it it would not even hold soccer balls.
Councillor from Hamilton says gangs need to together to make peace. “What have you done to facilitate this?” “Nothing” I just want to get on the Radio because its a slow news day”
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July 19, 2018 8:51am
ztev

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Oh dear The ‘Colossus of Bridges’ is at it again:
From RNZ
Espiner – What’s [Yang’s] spokesmanship.

Bridges – Statistics

Espiner – anything else?

Bridges – no, not at this time

Espiner – his bio says he is an associate spokesperson for ethnic communities is that right as well?

Bridges – that would be right, he is remarkably effective at that …

So effective that even Bridges didnt know it.
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July 19, 2018 8:54am
- KiWombat
  
  Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you own it an apology !
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:04am
  - rockape
    
    Point me at that tree, I just bought a new chainsaw!
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:14am
    - ztev
      
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      Thats no virtue signal points for you today . You are all supposed to want to die in ditch for anything else someone would want to say
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:41am
- Rich Prick
  
  Christ, I broke you into bits with the brush and flushed twice, yet here you are again.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:20am
- Poppa
  
  I need to lie down….that was quite a good effort Ztev
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:03am
Harkman

So did Obama take his opportunity in South Africa to criticise their land confiscation policies, which aren’t in the Mandela spirit of reconciliation? Did he condemn the ‘strongman’ running the country the country into the ground?
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July 19, 2018 9:08am
- skyblue
  
  NIGGERS DON’T SLAG OFF OTHER NIGGERS.
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:41am
  - Morrissey
    
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    What a pity they aren’t as bright and intelligent and widely read as the likes of you, huh?
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:46am
    - skyblue
      
      That’s right Morris Minor. While they were hunting the jungle we were hunting them for slaves. Superior intelligence you see.
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:30pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Thirteen, and then four more, upticks for this witless buffoon’s racist filth. Hmmmm… makes you wonder, doesn’t it.
        
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        July 19, 2018 5:01pm
Inandout

Mt Roskill Muslims call their hero Phil Goff by the Arabic name of Fil Juf.
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July 19, 2018 9:10am
- Morrissey
  
  What do they call you? Fah Shist?
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:39am
  - Inandout
    
    You come out sounding like meusli.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:42am
    - Morrissey
      
      ????
      
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      July 19, 2018 9:43am
      - sooty
        
        That sound when it hits the bowl.
        
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        July 19, 2018 10:33am
Morrissey

Treatment is a human right, unless your neighbours are Nazis

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/07/18/treatment-is-a-human-right-unless-your-neighbors-are-nazis/
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July 19, 2018 9:37am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  LOL, Aspiring genocidal islamic theo-fascists who murder gays and immolate women who don’t fully submit to misogynist oppression complaining about Nazis.
  
  If they don’t like being hurt in fighting, then perhaps they could stop their sneaky attacks on Israel?
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:49am
  - sooty
    
    So when are you going to denounce Labour for running camps for deviates children of the MPs.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:35am
    - Morrissey
      
      I don’t think you believe a word of that silly accusation, sooty. So why say it? It only harms your credibility.
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:00am
      - sooty
        
        Why do Labour have so much trouble out the back with deviates, is because they welcome in the front door.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:23pm
Morrissey

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Four Nazis have registered their loathsome presence with us. Haven’t you fools got a Klaven to go to somewhere?
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July 19, 2018 9:44am
- All_on_Red
  
  So Mo, what’s the speed Hamas recommends you drive your motorcycle when dragging a ‘traitor’ by his heels behind it?
  
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  July 19, 2018 9:53am
  - stephieboy
    
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    All on Red, now that your President has been played by both Kim and Vlad where to now?
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:14am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Well, looking on the bright side I guess it’s better you’re stalking on here instead of stalking little girls at the Mall.
      Seen your Doctor yet?
      
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      July 19, 2018 10:50am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed , touchy, touchy? A dental nurse appointment for that exposed raw nerve?
        
        LOL
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:47pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Still here?
        Good, good. The young girls at St Luke’s will be relieved.
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:02pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Why do you keep talking about Hamas? The kids targeted by the IDF, the more than 12,000 maimed by those brave snipers, have nothing to do with Hamas.
    
    You know that of course, but you continually stream your torrent of abusive falsehoods. Clearly you have no sense of shame, leave alone any sense of integrity, or regard for the truth.
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:10am
    - rangitoto
      
      If Hamas keep firing rockets at Israel, they will get a reply for sure. And rightly so.
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:20am
      - Morrissey
        
        Fool. You know nothing.
        
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        July 19, 2018 11:25am
      - rangitoto
        
        “Fool. You know nothing”
        
        An antisemitic neo-nazi has registered his disapproval of fact. Probably a Corban supporter:
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5968069/Margaret-Hodge-defends-attacking-Jeremy-Corbyn-emotional-article.html
        
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        July 19, 2018 11:34am
      - Morrissey
        
        Your insults are as invalid and as lame as everything else y0u write.
        
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        July 19, 2018 4:59pm
Fletch

Beneath contemptible – a reporter at the Trump/Putin news conference asks Putin whether he has any compromising material on Trump.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/watch/reporter-asks-putin-do-you-have-compromising-info-on-trump/vp-AAAaDAN

These reporters seem intent on destroying world relations in their hatred of Trump. What did he think Putin was going to say? Oh yeh, we do, but I can’t tell you what it is? Unbelievable…
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July 19, 2018 10:05am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch,
  
  from your link,
  
  AP reporter Jonathan Lemire asks Russian President Vladimir Putin if he has compromising information on President Trump. In his answer, Putin claimed that he didn’t know Trump was in Moscow in 2013 but that contradicts what President Trump said on February 10, 2014 in an appearance on Fox News.”
  
  Maybe you should try and answer the above?
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:19am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Transcript of the Press Conference
    Putin;
    ‘And now to the compromising material. Yeah, I did heard these rumors that we allegedly collected compromising material on Mr. Trump when he was visiting Moscow. Well, distinguished colleague, let me tell you this, when President Trump was in Moscow back then, I didn’t even know that he was in Moscow. I treat President Trump with utmost respect, but back then when he was a private individual, a businessman, nobody informed me that he was in Moscow.
    
    Let’s take St. Petersburg economic forum, for instance. There were over 500 American businessmen — high-ranking, high-level ones. I don’t even remember the last names of each and every one. Do you think that we try to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them?
    
    Well, it’s difficult to imagine utter nonsense on a bigger scale than this. Please disregard these issues and don’t think about this anymore again.“
    Vox.com
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:01am
  - ztev
    
    More Trump bullshit over his Moscow visit had been previously exposed
    Trump claimed – wasnt even in Moscow for a whole night.
    
    tracked the flight records of the business jet he used- not one of his own planes but that of a close friend- which had Trumps own plane landing at a US airport and this other plane taking off for Moscow where the plane did stay for at least 2 nights and part of another before flying back again
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5648787/Trump-spent-46-HOURS-Moscow-Miss-Universe-trip-2013-despite-Comey-claims-told-him.html
    
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    July 19, 2018 12:05pm
secondcumming

The father in-law retweets……love it!! 🙂

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiZqF8dWAAEW0AG.jpg
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July 19, 2018 10:06am
Hugh Pavletich

House prices stifling productivity, hurting economy, ANZ economists say | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/105576693/house-prices-stifling-productivity-hurting-economy-anz-economists-say

New Zealand’s high house prices may be keeping a lid on New Zealand’s productivity.

In their latest Property Focus report, ANZ economists said house prices, which have tripled in real terms since the 1990s, are limiting New Zealand’s economic expansion.

New Zealand is a productivity underperformer by OECD standards. … read more via hyperlink above …
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(NEW ZEALAND) ANZ (Bank) economists suggest that our expensive housing is affecting the economy’s productive potential | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94855/anz-economists-suggest-our-expensive-housing-affecting-economys-productive-potential
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Surge in new dwelling consents in Auckland could be the beginning of the end for the region’s housing shortage … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94554/surge-new-dwelling-consents-auckland-could-be-beginning-end-regions-housing-shortage

https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-may-2018
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July 19, 2018 10:13am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Aussie housing market teeters “on the precipice” – MacroBusiness
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/07/aussie-housing-market-teeters-precipice/
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  Australia’s falling housing market: … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  July 19, 2018 12:06pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    NEW ZEALAND: Rate rises continually outstrip incomes and inflation – do they need an overhaul? | Stuff.co.nz
    
    … There are two types of local government in this world – the small and the bad …
    
    … It all went to hell with the forced local government amalgamations of 1989 …
    
    … The United States is ‘the land of local government’ with way more units of local government on a population basis than New Zealand …
    
    … New Zealand must get the local back in to local government …
    
    NEW ZEALAND: Rate rises continually outstrip incomes and inflation – do they need an overhaul? | Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105458160/rate-rises-continually-outstrip-incomes-and-inflation–do-they-need-an-overhaul
    
    … extract …
    
    SHOULD COUNCILS FOCUS ON CORE SERVICES?
    
    Another issue is that local government as a proportion of the economy is growing, believes Jordan Williams, co-founder of lobby group the Taxpayers’ Union – something he says would be justifiable if the extra income went to infrastructure and traditional council services.
    
    “The analysis we’ve done, focused mostly in Auckland, is that despite the much larger income coming in, the actual increase in investment isn’t that high.
    
    “Where the money is going is operational, and that is because the scope of what local government is doing is becoming wider and wider.” …
    
    … “Do you think local government should be just about core services, in which case it’s out of control and we desperately need to rein it in, and that would prevent the continued growth, or should we let it expand and effectively turn it into state-type governance, in which case we do need to re-look at how they generate income…
    
    “Most ratepayers would believe – and I am pretty confident on this one – that councils should be reined in.” … read more via hyperlink above …
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    Former Christchurch Central Labour MP Brendon Burns summed it up best in my view … within a Feb 2012 Op Ed for The Press … SHINING A LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS …
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/perspective/6380541/Better-communication-can-shine-a-light-in-the-darkness (currently unavailable)
    
    ‘… For this city to best recover from its seismic nightmare, the process of decision- making needs to be inverted to truly empower communities. Such a radical change is very difficult to accept for anyone – of any political persuasion – who happens to be in power.’
    
    ‘To date, the required response is tokenistic. A top-down command and control system may be appropriate in the days after a disaster but not in a recovery which will take years. Among the ultimate victims will be those who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes to true community engagement. Just look at the Christchurch City Council. … ‘
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    … Why has Local Government New Zealand failed to release the results of polling for subsequent years ? …
    
    Poll shows local government has a reputation problem | The National Business Review (20 May 2015)
    
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/poll-shows-local-government-has-reputation-problem-b-172979
    
    … The recent proposed amalgamations for Wellington, Hawkes Bay and Northland all failed when put to the local vote … because the wider public is acutely aware of the bureaucratic basket cases of Christchurch and Auckland …
    
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    July 19, 2018 1:30pm
Manolo

stephieboy is jumping with joy:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/odds-donald-trump-impeached-shot-criticised-us-intelligence-agencies-115658849.html

The chances of Donald Trump being impeached have shot up after he questioned his own intelligence agencies’ finding that Russia meddled in the 2016 US election.
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July 19, 2018 10:36am
- stephieboy
  
  Manalo, at least your President certainly knows how to throw the FBI and his other intelligence services under a bus!
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:44am
  - rangitoto
    
    Drain the swamp.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:46am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Drain it 3 times to get rid of the residue
      
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      July 19, 2018 4:57pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Stephie, you don’t believe a word the intelligence agencies say, do you?
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:02am
    - Morrissey
      
      A true believer in the CIA has registered his presence. Rather sad….
      
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      July 19, 2018 11:13am
    - stephieboy
      
      Morrissey . do you believe what Putin ( former KGB Colonel )and his FIS say ?
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:41pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Most of us here would tend to believe what Putin says way above the shit that you spew
        
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        July 19, 2018 4:59pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Data transfer rates for DNC ‘hack’ prove it was an inside job:
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
“Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”
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July 19, 2018 10:44am
- stephieboy
  
  UN, that theory is full of holes according to this report by cyber fraud experts,
  
  http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:52am
  - Inandout
    
    Why do you refer to sites that are basically anti Trump, such as The Shrill?
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:57am
  - ztev
    
    “experts note that metadata is among the easiest pieces of forensic evidence to falsify”
    
    As well all found out when they tried to discredit the Sony metadata/emails dotcom had access to.
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:58am
    - ztev
      
      “security firm Fidelis, noted that while home internet, where uploads are much slower than downloads, would not allow that speed, corporate and cloud networks could do so.”
      NZ home data is much better, I have a restricted bandwidth but still more than 30 Mbs
      
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      July 19, 2018 12:07pm
      - 4077th
        
        “I have restricted bandwidth”… nuff said!
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:31pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        22MB/s is 170Mb/s That is a lot, and hard to attain through non-dedicated international connections.
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:35pm
      - stephieboy
        
        UN,
        
        “22MB/s is 170Mb/s That is a lot, and hard to attain through non-dedicated international connections”
        
        Why ?
        
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        July 19, 2018 12:46pm
    - KevOB
      
      IT at that level is getting more complex every week. An expert today out of a job tomorrow. Conjecture about how someone moved data and tracing it after six months is no evidence that there was even any data to be moved in the first place. A lot of what is being put up will never satisfy any reputable Court.
      
      “We have looked for the defendant Your Honour. We now believe that when the alleged spook was identified that it was a real person but the facts show that the spook was supernatural after all so cannot appear in this Court.”
      
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      July 19, 2018 1:05pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        FBI Dir Comey and NSA Director Rogers on 20 March 2017 Congressional Hearing confirms the FBI and the NSA never inspected the DNC Server
        
        https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1019290086943416320/photo/1
        
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        July 19, 2018 2:01pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Then explain why 12 Russians have been indicted for it?
    
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html
    
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/13/russia-investigation-12-russian-nationals-indicted-2016-hacking/782471002/
    
    Do try to keep up Galah
    
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    July 19, 2018 5:14pm
- KevOB
  
  Those very high internet speeds are only available on expensive special dedicated high cost lines. You cannot walk into almost anywhere and expect internet access is available to your device at 23MB/sec. The internet is a distributed highway with nodes like water pipes. Traffic is connected from larger pipes to lesser ones and smaller ones again likewise. At the desktop level the higher speeds are overkill for normal workflows. Also the connections are not usually straight through. The system gets through but does not promise what interconnections it will make. What was 9Mb/sec at 10am may be 2MB/sec at 10:03.
  
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  July 19, 2018 1:26pm
Inandout

Mark Levin has done his homework on previous presidents.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/5810494687001/?#sp=show-clips
Trump is an amateur at intrigue compared to Obama and Clinton. Even Roosevelt sold out Europe to the Soviets, millions of people involved, and Stalin laughing all the way to the gulags.
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July 19, 2018 10:47am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Inandout, oh I see Trump ( miracle worker ) would not have dome same with, of course, the full benefit of hindsight and now that since 1991 the Soviet Union is no more.
  
  Sheesh!
  
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  July 19, 2018 10:56am
  - Inandout
    
    The Dark Ages are no more, but your Islam still wallows in it.
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:10am
  - pentwig
    
    comedy gold stupidboy
    
    LOL
    
    hahaha
    
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    July 19, 2018 11:12am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy,haven’t you got a bovidae to catch ?
    
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    July 19, 2018 1:48pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Was that Obama’s excuse too?
    
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    July 19, 2018 5:15pm
rockape

Headlines in Newshub, “Revealed: Phone scammers using PM Jacinda Ardern’s name as bait”. I hate to tell you but this Government is a scam using Jacinda’s name!
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July 19, 2018 11:08am
Morrissey

The National knives are being sharpened to deal with this no-hoper

https://thestandard.org.nz/what-has-happened-to-simon-bridges/
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July 19, 2018 11:24am
- sooty
  
  When are going to restart your deviate post starting with the letter L.
  
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  July 19, 2018 12:27pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    And the letter ‘S’
    
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    July 19, 2018 12:57pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , BTW was does ” misspoke” mean?
      
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      July 19, 2018 1:00pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy, it means “was does”
        similar to your queen who misspoke about sniper fire,do you remember goat boy?
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:51pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        was does ” misspoke” mean?
        
        Check out Hillary and her Bosnian Sniper story
        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/clinton-misspoke-over-claims-of-sniper-fire-in-visit-to-bosnia-800606.html
        
        You might learn something.
        
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        July 19, 2018 1:56pm
- 4077th
  
  Lol, linking to the Stranded… This is an equally interesting link:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGA-GCq7JWM
  
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  July 19, 2018 12:27pm
- graham
  
  From the link:
  
  As an example the National Party blogger has posted three posts in the past month mentioning Bridges.
  
  They can’t even bring themselves to say DPF’s name any more, so great is the DPF-DS with them!
  
  Bwahahahahahahaha!!
  
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  July 19, 2018 1:47pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Graham:
    
    And very hypocritical, too, when The Standard bloggers shut down claims (and dish out bans in response to those claims) that they run a Labour Party blog!
    
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    July 19, 2018 2:07pm
    - graham
      
      Oh my word … they are unbelievable!
      
      https://thestandard.org.nz/what-is-eating-mike-hosking/
      
      Mickysavage basically says Hosking is currently being extremely negative. Specifically, “he is very pessimistic about this Government”.
      
      I used to read The Standard fairly regularly a few years ago. I stopped reading largely because of the unrelenting negativity, the-sky-is-falling, doom and gloom. Honestly, for a year before the election I was thinking to myself that some of the people on The Standard would end up slashing their wrists if National won again, so depressed were they.
      
      It was the old “if Trump cured cancer they would moan that he had put thousands of doctors and oncologists out of work” approach to the Government at that time. Nothing, but NOTHING, National did was ever right.
      
      And now Mickysavage wonders that Mike Hosking is very pessimistic about this Government!!
      
      Does he seriously not realise or remember just how negative The Standard was two years ago?
      
      Un-freaking-believeable.
      
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      July 19, 2018 2:45pm
- realityczech
  
  Morris Dancer, I certainly hope so. We all want to make sure Labour are unemployed again next election and Simon is not the man to do it. We need someone more like Trump.
  
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  July 19, 2018 5:36pm
Fletch

Local Govt wants to increase the levy on dumping rubbish, from $10 to $40.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018654279/household-rubbish-to-landfill-costs-could-quadruple

Tax after tax after tax…..
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July 19, 2018 12:32pm
- DigNap15
  
  Why don’t they come up with some good ideas first and then think about how to pay for them.
  Rather than ask for a tax first and then have no idea what to do.
  God I hate these lefties.
  
  Who do we have a problem with rubbish anyway. NZ has a small population and a large area of hills and valleys. Buy a valley and take 100 years to fill it up.
  
  Problem solved
  
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  July 19, 2018 12:38pm
- MCos
  
  It’s not a tax. People dumping rubbish are paying for the stuff to be processed.
  
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  July 19, 2018 3:30pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Sure – paying 4 times more. What’s that smell?????
    
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    July 19, 2018 5:03pm
DigNap15

Its just like our Labour MP for Tauranga.
Jan Tineti.

She was to bring in a road tax like Auckland’s.
She says that everyone knows that the traffic in Tga is bad and has got much worse.

But she offers no solutions. Just a tax.
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July 19, 2018 12:40pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  DigNap – Ms Tinetti is very definitely NOT the MP for Tauranga, and God willing, she never will be.
  
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  July 19, 2018 12:46pm
  - softail 1450
    
    K S, have you seen some of her fashion “get outs”? she came to parliament one one day about month ago looking like little red riding hood, i kid you not…..give her twelve months and she will resemble 3 pies woods.
    
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    July 19, 2018 1:57pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Softail:
      
      give her twelve months and she will resemble 3 pies woods
      
      I may be able to assist here: Visit Bellamys for a unique, delicious dining experience!
      
      When you arrive for your meal, you’ll need to enter through the main entrance to Parliament (off the forecourt, into the Beehive) and go to the security desk on the left. Tell them you are dining at Bellamys by Logan Brown and they will scan you through.
      
      Just ask for a seat next to Megan Woods, and you’ll be able to help her order 99% fat-free meals (she’ll probably need more than one) from the menu!
      
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      July 19, 2018 2:19pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Thanks for that, I will be in Wellington next Fri until Wed. Come take my MAGA cap – please. I need some fun
        
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        July 19, 2018 5:07pm
Manolo

Sooner rather than later she will drop dead:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/nancy-pelosi-suffers-face-spasm-saying-intelligence-calls-colleague-by-wrong-name/ 😀
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July 19, 2018 1:01pm
- Inandout
  
  What a bitch she is, and maybe the ‘intelligence’ spasm was a nervous reaction to her constant lying; a sort of ‘Freudian Squint’. Those standing behind her must cringe when she speaks.
  
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  July 19, 2018 1:31pm
- ztev
  
  More likely totally fake news…..from a year ago …
  Shes still going strong like |Hils
  
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  July 19, 2018 1:57pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Trev ,FFS Trev is a Pelosi supporter , he must be in his 80s ha,ha,ha,
    And no trev it’s from today’s US news,look it up fool.
    
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    July 19, 2018 2:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

More trouble in the UK Labour camp

“Margaret Hodge faces ‘action’ over Corbyn anti-Semitism row”
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44875908

Labour was “so distrusted by the Jewish community, we are the last people on earth, at this time, who should think about amending a widely accepted definition of anti-Semitism”, she said.
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July 19, 2018 2:14pm
- mandk
  
  Margaret Hodge (who lost relatives in the holocaust, btw) needs to watch out.
  
  Jeremy “Napoleon” Corbyn’s attack dogs will be after her.
  
  UK Labour’s National Executive is looking more like the NKVD every day.
  
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  July 19, 2018 2:55pm
- Morrissey
  
  How dare this political hack use her relatives’ martyrdom to defend the crimes of Israel? Norman Finkelstein, who unlike Margaret Hodge, actually has credibility on this matter, summed it up perfectly when replying to a particularly foolish German student at the University of Waterloo:
  
  “I don’t respect the crocodile tears…. My late father was at Auschwitz, my late mother was at Majdanek concentration camp. Every single member of my family on both sides was exterminated. Both of my parents were in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, and it is precsely and exactly because of the lessons my parents taught me and my two siblings that I will not be silent when Israel commits its crimes against the Palestinians. And I consider nothing more despicable than to use their suffering and their martyrdom to try to justify the torture, the brutalization, the demolition of homes that Israel daily commits against the Palestinians. So I refuse any longer to be intimidated or browbeaten by the tears. If you had any heart in you, you’d be crying for the Palestinians.”
  
  During his speech, one of the Margaret Hodge-level intellects in the audience shouts: “The Jews did not take arms against the Germans!”
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O5zgXeCynQ
  
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  July 19, 2018 4:37pm
  - mandk
    
    I cry for the Palestinians.
    
    Under Hamas, the Gaza Palestinians are victims of the most vicious and brutal regime it is possible to imagine.
    
    Under Fatah, the West Bank Palestinians are victims of a corrupt, lazy and utterly intransigent leadership.
    
    No wonder much of the rest of the Arab World has despaired. Even Saudi Arabia is making it clear that its best interests lie in recognising, and working with, Israel. Egypt and Jordan know this already.
    
    The lot of the Palestinians would be infinitely better if only they could throw off their yoke.
    
    Shalom
    
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    July 19, 2018 4:50pm
    - Morrissey
      
      I cry for the Palestinians.
      
      Please don’t try to be funny. You hate and despise the Palestinians and, like Margaret Hodge, you are prepared to say anything, no matter how preposterous, as long as it adds to the noise and confusion around this issue.
      
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      July 19, 2018 4:58pm
      - mandk
        
        I don’t hate and despise the Palestinians.
        
        The people I loathe are lefties who have no real regard for humanity and who are driven by hatred themselves.
        
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        July 19, 2018 6:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Ok Guys (and maybe Gals),

I just don’t get how perving at ladies on the dunny can be a sexual turn-on.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105596967/nelson-hospital-toilet-cam-doctor-loses-name-suppression

Perhaps it was those years at boarding school with open toilet cubicles and communal showers that have dulled the mystery for me.

Anyone able to explain it to me.
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July 19, 2018 2:40pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  ‘I just don’t get how perving at ladies on the dunny can be a sexual turn-on. … Anyone able to explain it to me.
  
  Have you asked Stephieboy? 🙂
  
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  July 19, 2018 2:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I wanted an informed opinion, Nostradamus.
    
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    July 19, 2018 4:14pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The only explanation I have Maggy is that the cardiologist was regretting that he didn’t choose gynaecology.
  
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  July 19, 2018 4:11pm
mandk

Margaret Hodge (who lost relatives in the holocaust, btw) needs to watch out.

Jeremy “Napoleon” Corbyn’s attack dogs will be after her.

UK Labour’s National Executive is looking more like the NKVD every day.
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July 19, 2018 2:54pm
- mandk
  
  Apologies – not sure what is going on here.
  I intended to post this in response to Maggy W’s 2.14, but I got it in the wrong place.
  But when I copied and pasted it in the correct place, I could delete the original.
  
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  July 19, 2018 3:03pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Don’t you mean Margaret Oppenheimer she of that that money grubbing and swindling Oppenheimer family?
  
  Wasn’t she a revolutionary Marxist communist who was part of the Tony Blair set that opened the door to mass immigration to make Britian “truly multicultural” and set up the British Police State with CCTV Cameras everywhere?
  
  Wasn’t she the one as Minister for Children who tried to bring in the Universal Child database so the State could spy on its citizens but instead had to settle for just making a “racist remark” be logged on a child’s academic record for life?
  
  With a past like hers, perhaps she should show a bit more humility…
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/with-a-past-like-hers-margaret-hodge-might-show-a-bit-more-humility-10098871.html
  
  Has there ever been a more spectacular political reinvention than that of Margaret Hodge? The sun never sets on her Indian summer as headline-pillaging chair of the Commons Public Accounts Committee. Watching her reprise the Torquemada act on Monday, with Rona Fairhead of HSBC and the BBC Trust on her rack, I caught myself reflecting on this metamorphosis and the staggering chutzpah that was its catalyst.
  
  A Jew showing staggering chutzpah- who wouldda thunk? ?
  
  If anyone cheering Hodge on as she chirpily eviscerates tax-dodging CEOs, obfuscating civil servants and the persecutors of whistleblowers has forgotten her distant past, they are in splendid company. Hodge apparently remembers nothing of it herself……
  
  These words would apply equally to an earlier scandal in British public life. As leader of Islington Council, a post she held from 1982-92, Hodge was aware of previous, horrendous child sex abuse in the care homes for which she was responsible, and did nothing about it. This was not an either/or. She was incompetent, completely and utterly incompetent, and she knew about it.
  
  Her transformation from Islington’s Enver Hodgea (the Red Flag was raised over the town hall and a bust of Lenin imported on her first day as council leader) to relentlessly on-message New Labour parrot was complete. Blair gave her his unconditional support, and unlike the generic football club chairman, he meant it. She did not resign.
  
  Reflecting on that appointment, the visceral shock bubbles up anew. A local politician who had heard the gravest imaginable allegations about the maltreatment of children, refused to examine them on budgetary grounds, smeared a victim, attacked the newspaper that did its duty by investigating, and finally – after years of running for cover – offered the dismal excuse that people knew less about child abuse back then, became the national politician with responsibility for children
  
  But she allegedly lost a family member in the alleged holocaust (which we’re not allowed to question under threat of ridicule at best, arrest at worst) so I guess this makes her and her actions OK then does it Mandk?
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:14pm
- realityczech
  
  (who lost relatives in the holocaust, btw)
  
  Most Kiwis lost people in the war. What was your point?
  
  Oh and my parents survived the holocaust as did all my family.
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:17pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    I mean – why even drop that statement into a statement?
    
    It almost proves us “far-right/Nazis/haters/insert magic word here” correct in that the Holocaust (a word not invented until 1978 as a result of a TV mini series) gets used as emotional blackmail both to guilt-trip whites and/or justify the behaviour of the State of Israel which seems to have one law for them, and another for everyone else.
    
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    July 19, 2018 7:27pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO, the Hebrew term is Shoah (literally destruction). The Nazi term is “Final Solution to the Jewish Question” (die Endlösung der Judenfrage).
      
      Quite possibly the NBC miniseries possibility popularised the term Holocaust but at the end of the day does it really matter?
      
      Shal we in future opt for the Nazi term?
      
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      July 19, 2018 7:39pm
      - realityczech
        
        “The Nazi term is “Final Solution to the Jewish Question” (die Endlösung der Judenfrage).”
        
        evidence?
        
        If you find it send a copy to the President of Israel who said that was bullshit. Ta.
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:45pm
    - realityczech
      
      My family survived the Crusades and Mongol invasions.
      
      I should probably mention it more often. Just dropping it randomly into comments to give them more gravity.
      
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      July 19, 2018 7:41pm
      - stephieboy
        
        kea, mine too. The big difference is the Final solution and the Nazi invasion of Russia occurred within living memory.
        
        Not 1,000 or so years ago.
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        Lebanese, Realityczech?
        
        It was a great little country.
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:31pm
      - Jack5
        
        When were the Crusaders ever in Stephiestan, Stephie X?
        
        You are shamelessly telling porkies. The Crusaders were never in the Indian subcontinent.
        
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        July 20, 2018 12:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Churchill used the term Holocaust in 1923 to refer to the Armenian genocide by the Turks.
      As for the Turkish atrocities … helpless Armenians, men, women, and children together, whole districts blotted out in one administrative holocaust – these were beyond human redress.
      – Winston Churchill, The World in Crisis, volume 4: The Aftermath, 1923, p. 158.
      
      https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-forgotten-holocaust-463306.html
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , you are probably correct which this link seems to confirm where it first came into usage in 1925
        
        Etymology
        
        From French holocauste, from Late Latin holocaustum, from the neuter form of Ancient Greek ὁλόκαυστος (holókaustos), from ὅλος (hólos, “whole”) + καυστός (kaustós, “burnt”), from καίω (kaíō, “I burn”). Used to refer to mass killings since at least 1925.[1]
        
        https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holocaust
        
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        July 19, 2018 8:47pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        stephieboy,
        remember it’s me that is a colossal bore.
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/07/general_debate_18_july_2018.html#comment-2259313
        
        No need for you to add boring detail to my detailed posts.
        
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        July 19, 2018 8:57pm
All_on_Red

Tesla buyers are losing patience. Cancelled orders expected- especially when the Tax Credits expire
https://apnews.com/181514df80ab40418efe7405e9d2ebb4/Tesla-Model-3-buyers-lose-patience-and-maybe-tax-credits

The Onion takes the piss
https://www.theonion.com/new-tesla-model-3-goes-from-zero-to-engulfed-in-flames-1827665727
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July 19, 2018 3:11pm
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red, by all means, turn the clock back to the steam age,
  
  https://www.voltra.net.au
  
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  July 19, 2018 3:58pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

In depth background to Musk’s ‘pedo’ comment about cave diver, was in response to said guy saying “He can stick his submarine where it hurts”

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-full-story-behind-Elon-Musks-involvement-with-the-Thai-cave-rescue-effort

Certainly doesn’t come across as ego-maniac.

And he has now apologised:
“Nonetheless, his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader,” Musk said. “The fault is mine and mine alone.”

As usual media twisting and magnifying small stuff into big issues.
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July 19, 2018 3:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  UN , you seem to make light of an issue that was a very big and serious one for Vernon Unsworth.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/18/elon-musk-apologises-for-calling-thai-cave-rescue-diver-a-pedo
  
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  July 19, 2018 4:01pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Sound more like Musk’s lawyers told him he could lose his shirt if he doesn’t stop acting like a petulant six year old.
  
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  July 19, 2018 4:25pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    I’m sure they did, but just shows that there was more to the story than media reported, that Unsworth started with the unecessary and undeserved personal insults – which I didn’t see reported, and that after being asked to help Elon appears to have gone massively out of his way committing time, money and staff to assist, and was very respectful of and praised efforts by those on site. He didn’t act like an egomaniac – which is what clickbait media tried to sell.
    
    Media lies and misrepresentation, no longer a surprise to anyone.
    
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    July 19, 2018 4:59pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Quelle surpise. After 7 long years of beneficiary numbers decreasing a rapid reversal in trend since the election sees them now starting to rise again:

https://www.interest.co.nz/charts/labour/change-benefits-numbers

Another contribution to the ever-growing fiscal hole.
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July 19, 2018 4:30pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Can they not be given a job in the Public Service?
  No wait, there’s already enough non productive shitheads there
  
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  July 19, 2018 5:11pm
UpandComer

ttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5952625/Christian-doctor-fired-saying-people-choose-gender-reveals-speak-out.html

Here we have a Dr David Mackereth – a Church of England Doctor fired from working in the Department for Work and Pensions in England because he refused to pretend a man was a woman.

Now he’s blacklisted from all public service departments, his career is over, and he’s received vicious abuse online from the bugman shemale cohort of England – muslim and vichy gentile.

“The Equality Act made it unlawful to discriminate on the grounds of a ‘protected characteristic’ such as gender reassignment”.

– ‘protected characteristic’ (protected attribute theory?)

Here is the most surreal element of this tawdry story:

“….So, should a man have walked into his office claiming he was a woman, he would need to be treated as such.”

Hahahahaha, wait, are they serious?

It wasn’t just the pronouns. Mr Mackereth would HAVE TO TREAT THE TRANNIE AS THOUGH IT REALLY ‘WERE’ A FREAKING WOMAN.

Okay? So if the mentally ill manwoman said he was having period pains, the doctor has to sit there like a blithering lunatic in a Monty Python Judy&Punch and not only tolerate the pantomime HE HAS TO MAKE MEDICAL DECISIONS AS THOUGH THE MAN WERE A WOMAN.

So the doctor has to say to the great hairy masculine pile of mental illness glowering at him ‘oh, well, Mrs Spielberg, I’m so sorry to hear your menstruation has started early, please take this niproxin and myrsynofen, and try to increase your iron intake (the iron levels are perfectly fine in our scenario) because women often get anemic around their menstruation, and come back in 2 months and we’ll do a neo-natal scan of your womb just to check if there is any anomalies”.

There are sound reasons for this insanity. Theological, and philosophical. It isn’t random. If you want a source, look to Judeo-Islam and Judeo-cultural marxism.

This is coming to Australia. I am telling you. 100%. Australia has the speech laws now, it will get this too – then us.
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July 19, 2018 5:35pm
- realityczech
  
  Uppity, what made you aware of the Jew and its ways?
  
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  July 19, 2018 6:02pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Perhaps like me, he had the temerity and audacity to judge people on their actions rather than turn a blind eye because of a boo word
    
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    July 19, 2018 6:27pm
    - realityczech
      
      Eddy, I used to be like all the brainwashed hysterical nutters on here babbling about Nazis.
      
      One day I thought I would read up on why the Arabs and Israel were not getting along. I could not believe what I read. So I got more books. Very soon I began to see through the lies. They were everywhere.
      
      As an atheist I have no particular concern about the religion of the Jews, but the endless lies and manipulations we endure from them are a stain on humanity.
      
      Sure there are good Jews too, but collectively they are a serious threat to humanity. Frustratingly all we need to do is simply treat them like everyone else.
      
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      July 19, 2018 6:43pm
  - mandk
    
    “the Jew and its ways”
    
    Yes, 100% Jew-hating Kea.
    
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    July 19, 2018 10:33pm
UpandComer

https://twitter.com/vicalhadeff?lang=en

Have you ever seen a more sordid, spectral looking bunch of speech body-snatchers? Do you think they’re going to assimilate? Or carve Australia up to the tune of their precious feelings. They all have to go back. And they will go back. Because their Stasi law that will destroy the lives of Australians, and I understand the first victim has already been lined up for the Gulag, and Australians aren’t going to let themselves be destroyed by malevolent, hostile, fake, non-diversity.

‘Death to all those who insult the free speech prophet’ – I mean free speech is a religion of peace, engaged in a Jihad of the mind.
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July 19, 2018 5:37pm
rightoverlabour

Fuck off ztev. Not for any particular comment. Just in case you missed the love….. general debate would be 80% more compact if it wasn’t for this morons interjections.
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July 19, 2018 5:42pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Fuck off ztev
  
  Rightoverlabour introduced himself to marcmywords yesterday:
  
  I am an alt right, global warming sceptic (idiot) who is in love with Donald Trump, a moron, fool, academic fraud ( got my degree off a cereal box), and an “assassin who sheds tears”. ( well at least that’s what the people who love to read my posts say on a daily basis). My favourite replies are “Fuck Off” and my favourite adjective when dealing with these lovely people is “Cunt”. Does that help? I have one strike and the comment I made to get it is still on the web…..
  
  Your introduction was 100% accurate! 🙂
  
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  July 19, 2018 5:48pm
Happychappy

I see Andrew Littles is doing what he does best,just like he has in the past using his mouth instead of his brain. Australia have their laws and if NZ’ers break them they have right to deport them so if he wants to create animosity over Australia sendig criminals back why doesn’t he put them up at his house and see how long he could tolerate their activity.
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July 19, 2018 5:49pm
UpandComer

Talmud update. So I’m up to the part where Maimonedes tells all the Rabbis that they can’t, under any circumstances, with no exceptions, ever, take ‘any’ kind of money for performing their spiritual services for the ‘chosen people’.

Within a very short period of time that’s been reinterpreted by the Pharisees to mean they actually can use force like voodoo curses to coerce people to give them all forms of money except a few – and actually they can take those as well if they do a few clown rituals.

It’s hilarious. The whole set of 36 books is a manual on how to lie, cheat, steal, and do it covertly subject to omerta. It’s a pile of garbage. How hilarious anyone links this torpid venality to the glories of Moses and Abraham. They are utterly absent from this supremely man-made text.

Even Islam affords more dignity to Jesus as part of the line of prophets. The Jews have Jesus being tortured in acid in Hell, and regard Mary the Immaculate as a cursed street whore.

Martin Luther, John Calvin, and John Chrysostom, as ‘diverse’as they were, were right about one particular issue.

Give Australia back it’s speech please. Stop trying to thieve ours here in NZ while you’re at it, thanks. No one believes for one second the Islamists are operating without the Judeo-Islamists. We’ve learned our lesson from England and Australia.

Oh and the ‘Shuckling’ that ridiculously stupid clownish autistic rocking back and forth – that’s actually a Kabala ritual where the performer is having sexual intercourse with one of the Kabala deities. Because they’re all magicians and sorcerers convening with demon spirits and worshipping Satan.

So much compacted trash. It can burn with the Koran. But first, because it’s much worse.

Vic has reopened old wounds. His Stasi law hasn’t gone un-noticed. Not by a long shot. It won’t hold.

We’re all the Romanovs now. But we aren’t going to go the way of the Romanovs.
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July 19, 2018 5:50pm
- realityczech
  
  Those Jews sure hate the Christians!
  
  https://www.ushmm.org/research/the-center-for-advanced-holocaust-studies/programs-ethics-religion-the-holocaust/articles-and-resources/christian-persecution-of-jews-over-the-centuries/christian-persecution-of-jews-over-the-centuries
  
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  July 19, 2018 5:59pm
starboard

Watch the you tube video on here..very interesting

http://1law4all.kiwi.nz/2018/07/19/grandma-against-pc-ostrich-head-disease/
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July 19, 2018 5:50pm
Inandout

Cue to 2030 when 80% of motorists are forced to buy expensive electric cars (no hybrids). Internal combustion vehicles are heavily taxed and almost uninsurable. The power generation is in overload because of the vehicle house plug-ins, heat pumps and hot water cylinders. The Greens have blocked all fossil fuels and severely restricted hydro power stations so power cuts happen on almost a daily basis. Public anger is growing and the MMP government is looking at nuclear fuels because expensive solar is not efficient enough. Despite almost pollution free coal burning technology, and the hundreds of years supplies, the government appears in disarray.

Welcome to the future, folks.
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July 19, 2018 6:08pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  To get off fossil fuels and provide enough power for an all-electric vehicle car fleet we need something like 8GW of new PV and wind, probably mostly PV, + a whole lot of upgrading of dams and grid to enable stored water to flow through dams at higher rates to act as the ‘battery’ for when the sun/wind aren’t working.
  
  That would probably cost $20-30Billion to do.
  
  But consider that electricity in this country sells for something like $5billion per year, it is something that we can afford to do over next 20 years if we really want to.
  
  As for car costs: Latest tear down of Tesla Model 3 suggests about US$28k to build (including batteries), about US$18k materials. If you got a big car company like VAG or Toyota to do it it would be a lot cheaper. And batteries are estimated to be down to <US$100/kWh in next 2 years ($10k for a 500km range battery pack). That is pretty similar cost to a New Toyota Camry so it will be economic to transition in another 10-20 years.
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:59pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Good luck with that fantasticulasic scenario.
    Apparently the big fire at Macaualay Metals at Seaview today was caused by a lithium battery igniting a huge pile of scrap metal.. Imagine when every head-on crash in the future involves a couple of those bastards.
    
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    July 19, 2018 9:21pm
Bernard Black

I have been reading this blog for a while now, highly entertaining.
I see today that the beloved ztev has said he is not multiple people, just one, and the Labour leaders would not even know who he is.
So ztev is a nobody troll with a massive chip on his (left) shoulder who has absolutely nothing better to do than come here every day and get crap beat out of him by you all. He must have a Masochistic streak that would make even the Jackass guys shake their heads in wonder.
Almost makes you feel sorry for him, almost.
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July 19, 2018 6:12pm
realityczech

Samuel 24:1
Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.”

Amen
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July 19, 2018 6:14pm
UpandComer

In the classical tradition, you engage in dialogue in order to discern truth. That’s what Christians do – via the Aristotelian fusion within Aquinas.

In the Talmudic tradition, it’s a competition to see who can bastardise and mutate and adulterate and invert the meaning of established principles the best, and rhetorically subjugate the opponent.

So ‘No money’ by the one of the greatest in history – Maimonedes, becomes ‘Money’ as soon as he’s dead.

And now you understand the ‘living document’ or the ‘de-constructed’ document per Derrida and Stanley Fish. Both received a Talmudic education.

Words mean nothing in the Talmud, and everything in the Kabala. Thesis, Counter-thesis, Synthesis.

Now I understand better Marx. Only someone based in the Talmud like he was could have constructed dialectical materialism.

I resent, every single fucking second I have to read this sludge when I could be doing something else.

But I have a steadily building cold fury over what is being done to the gentile in England, in Canada, and now Australia, and actually the United States. Just today I understand from Australian lawyers the first victim may have been found – to be brought before the Sanhedrin pretending to be an Australian civil court and have his life destroyed. His family wrecked. His children’s lives destroyed. Over the precious feelings of the diverse. Hopefully they decide they need something clearer cut for legitimacy.

Vic has opened very ancient naked wounds indeed. He’s turned the Christians into the Jews. That’s quite a combination. And it’s going to play out.

There is a new generation of non-boomer Christians in Australia who aren’t vapid consumerists like their parents. They know very well what is going on. They aren’t going to turn the other cheek.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/07/ron-unz-contemplates-his-childhood.html#comment-form

Everybody knows guys.

You need to start pretending to be Judeo Christians again. Because Judeo Islam is an error.
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July 19, 2018 6:16pm
- realityczech
  
  Uppity, Great to get some fresh and thoughtful comments on KB for a change. It was becoming over run with zionist shill extremists.
  
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  July 19, 2018 6:23pm
  - UpandComer
    
    I don’t like making coarse comments on a single theme like this. It’s uglifying. It’s vulgar. And it bores people. It really annoys me that I feel compelled to play variations on the same tune. Over and over.
    
    But this is the tune that governs the conditions of the world.
    
    It’s like the shadow of a Mountain. Every intellectual suddenly faces it, yawning across the landscape, surrounded by a chasm.
    
    But I see multiple countries I love, Ireland, England, Australia, New Zealand, under genuine threat.
    
    So I’ll do what I can to keep free speech in New Zealand. Because Sir George Grey wanted New Zealand to be a new Jerusalem of sorts, and it will remain so. The true Jerusalem – the Christian vision. Not the temple smoking with pagan sacrifices.
    
    Our diversity works, because it is genuine. It’s nominally Christian. Ratana, the Samoan Christians – that’s why it works. We share heritage, not just a sphere of the globe.
    
    I’ll not see it hijacked by the Judeo-Islamists. Their religions and traditions are dross. Ugly, xenophobic, vicious, dross.
    
    Everyone else can debate over the nature of the threat. I know what it is.
    
    Tommy Robinson and others look like guys I went to school with. Packed off to the Gulag for speaking out about the rape of their communities by the Judeo-Islamists.
    
    And now I see the same structures being erected in Australia by the same people. And the same victimisation, and then the inversion of that victimisation to the perpetrators. All of it’s fake. All of it’s faux. All of it’s false.
    
    I will oppose it to the n’th. As relentlessly, as single-mindedly, as posterity minded as the Jews themselves.
    
    Because they’ve turned the innocent Christians into them. And we know it.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWwKdejZLfE
    
    I’m haunted by the Romanovs. Nicholas had the Russian economy growing at 3.5%. That wasn’t reached by the Judeo-communists and then Stalin after he liquidated them until 1938.
    
    He has his beautiful girls were beaten with clubs, their faces smashed beyond recognition, and then their corpses dissolved in acid. Then millions of my brethren were thrown on the pyre to Baal, and now they can’t talk about it.
    
    And these people dare tell me to hate Russia now, when they seek to turn Australia into a new Russia – but perhaps a synthesis of Tibet/South Africa/Russia.
    
    They are playing with fire. Give Australia it’s speech back, Vic. Fucking give it back. So I can go back to enjoying my innocent hobbies and don’t have to learn all your sordid filth.
    
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    July 19, 2018 6:40pm
    - realityczech
      
      “play variations on the same tune”
      
      We get propaganda drummed into us from cradle to grave. Your few comments are a breath of fresh air and shows there may be life out there.
      
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      July 19, 2018 6:47pm
      - UpandComer
        
        Nothing is ever simple.
        
        Take that clip.
        
        Anastasia was directed by Don Bluth. A very good, honourable man. Like Ron Unz, Israel Shahak.
        
        Do you know why Anastasia isn’t tainted by that usual, unmistakeable taint of wrongness and propaganda like all the other Disney movies? i.e. white bad, everything else good, men bad, women good, gay good, straight bad, family bad, nations bad, every aspect of western civilization bad. Nature bad, inversion good?
        
        Don Bluth was expelled from Disney to join Fox Animations because of his politics. Cast out. He was the wrong kind of Jew. The honest kind – the type with a genuine love of the West. DPF would be tossed aside in the same way – destroyed by his own people for upholding secular values. There is no doubt in my mind. Just like Don Bluth. The courage of these men to break the omerta is unfathomable. To be cast out and marked like Cain.
        
        Anastasia is the most beautiful animated film I think I’ve seen.
        
        Totally absent the didactic. Just a pure-minded tribute to the Romanovs and to the Russian gentiles who suffered so much. Holocausts upon Holocausts upon Holocausts of the mind and spirit. And the Holodomor can’t be taught. Not ever. Shan’t be. But we must hear about the 6 million, the same 6million mentioned 40 years earlier. That repeating number that stays the same no matter how the inputs ‘evolve’.
        
        Nicholas the 2nd willingly abdicated to the Bolsheviks and put his family in the trust of ((Sverdlov)). Do you know why?
        
        Because he was going to relinquish his supreme position. He was engaged in an effort to modernise Russia. He was going to create the most beautiful synthesis conceivable – the American Revolution matched with the English Glorious Revolution of 1688. A constitutional monarchy intertwined with an American style congress and senate. He knew the monarchy alone could not rule. He was a modernist. French arms, English agriculture, German industry, American style government, Swiss provincial organisation. All the glories of Europe bound in Mother Russia, under the patriotic Orthodox Church.
        
        The unimaginable greatness of Russia had he not been murdered for his refusal to bow to the Rothschilds at the Council of Vienna is just unbearable. Snuffed out. He should have consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart. If only he had. It’s just unbearable. And I watch the media invert their own culpability.
        
        And now beautiful Australia and New Zealand to be snuffed out like beautiful England and Ireland – for the neuroses and lacunas and insatiable vices of the Judeo-Islamists.
        
        The silencing of speech is sacrilege. That they still do it when the Kabala cites again and again the sacredness of words shows the scale of the desecration.
        
        Only servants of the lie try and silence truth. Period.
        
        Anyway I apologise Kiwiblog – I think the general thrust of ‘free speech’ good is established.
        
        I’ll keep my musings to myself.
        
        But first:
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc
        
        Let’s have a tribute to the God – Emperor and the neo-Tsar.
        
        May they crush underfoot the Globalist cabal and dance a mazurka Irish jig on their graves. I hope they crush the neo-babel EU.
        
        Winston – you have my blessing. Let’s give the Russian embassy a reno and send the Israelis back home where they belong.
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:14pm
      - realityczech
        
        When world war 2 kicked off Russia was the biggest Jewish country in the war. There were a great many Jews in all the countries the Germans fought with.
        
        To arrive at the holocaust figure they considered Jews separately from the tens of millions of other dead. Over 20 millions Russians died.
        
        A high number of Jews would have died because they were Russian, not because they were Jews. Hitler wrote more clearly about exterminating Russians than he ever did about Jews.
        
        In the popular narrative only the deaths of Jews are considered relevant.
        
        Horrifically KB is a hotbed of Anti-Slavic sentiment.
        
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        Anti-Slavism, also known as Slavophobia, a form of racism, refers to various negative attitudes towards Slavic peoples, the most common manifestation being claims of inferiority of Slavic nations with respect to other ethnic groups. Its opposite is Slavophilia. Anti-Slavism reached its highest peak during World War II, when Nazi Germany declared Slavs, especially neighboring Poles to be subhuman and planned to exterminate the majority of Slavic people.[1]
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Slavic_sentiment
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:30pm
      - UpandComer
        
        The Haredi and the Orthodox are right in one respect. The internationalist cabal they despise is profaning Moses and Abraham and the genuine Judaism. This Kabala and this Talmud and Torah. All man made trash.
        
        If the Neo-con Trotskyites and internationalists like Soros, the Rothchilds, the Trilateral Commission, Tavistock, don’t give up their evil vision of One World Government and neo-babelism their pagan rebellion will be punished terribly
        
        The Golden Calf and the Temple soiled in blood and flesh sacrificed to Rempham and Moloch and Lucifer is not the teachings of Moses and Abraham. But Netanyahu and Kushner openly seek to re-build the temple the Romans destroyed. To serve as the seat of the new one world government as Ariel Sharon foretold.
        
        But it won’t happen. I’m not letting my speech go. Not ever.
        
        If they persist in Australia and New Zealand, the blood libel will be re-opened.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVTEyuCKn4
        
        Let our people go. Let us have our free speech. Let us have our peaceful, amicable Christian diversity in New Zealand and Australia. You already have Canada and England and Europe. Let us keep our open skies. Or watch yours darken.
        
        Vic, you are playing a dangerous game. It will not stand.
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:49pm
      - realityczech
        
        “The Haredi and the Orthodox are right in one respect. The internationalist cabal they despise is profaning Moses and Abraham and the genuine Judaism. This Kabala and this Talmud and Torah. All man made trash.”
        
        Oh you mean real Jews. Yes they are an odd bunch but harmless and best left alone.
        
        Actual Jews are fairly rare and tend to keep to themselves.
        
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        July 19, 2018 8:13pm
      - Jack5
        
        Realityczech asserts in a 7.30 post: “When world war 2 kicked off Russia was the biggest Jewish country in the war.”
        
        I don’t think so. In the 1930s, according to this link, Poland had more Jews than then Russia plus the Baltic states.
        
        https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161
        
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        July 19, 2018 9:25pm
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      UpandComer , I commend you for even excelling more than EAD TWO and Kea in your deluded and self-deceiving rant..
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:13pm
waikatogirl

Looks like the government initiative of installing security devices in neighbourhood dairies to deter large, violent thugs has been fulfilled with discounted priced fog cannons? The Peachgrove Dairy in Hamilton was hit for the 2nd time recently, scaring the Chinese husband and wife. The fog cannon took too long to respond, allowing the thieves time to continue robbing the dairy before escaping with the stolen goods.
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July 19, 2018 6:41pm
- nasska
  
  I’ll put up a dollar to a small round nugget of goat shit that the fog cannon or its components were made in China.
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:02pm
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    Yes, I also thought the fog cannons would be cheap Made in China. The owners were not harmed GV, but the wife wants to go back to live in China.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:02pm
- GoVege
  
  But were the proprietors harmed?
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:04pm
  - nasska
    
    Probably not but we’re doing this the wrong way. If the dairy owner had a shottie under the counter that he was prepared to use, instead of girly fog, there would now be less thieves around to have another go.
    
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    July 19, 2018 7:14pm
- realityczech
  
  Those hard working people should have the means to shoot thieves in the face. The best was to stop robbery and violence it to allow open carry of side arms.
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:13pm
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    Side arms be buggered! It’s hard to miss with an under & over even if you’re stressed.
    
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    July 19, 2018 7:16pm
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      I would allow all arms. Carrying a shotgun around the shop all day might be tiring though.
      
      Did I mention I am psychic and can give you a description of the robbers?
      
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      July 19, 2018 7:22pm
      - nasska
        
        Does your muse see Polynesians wearing hoodies too? 🙂
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:25pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        a description of the robbers
        
        Very nice boys who fell off the social ladder in the 21st century as a result of untimely colonisation in the 19th century. Known to associate with like-minded “bros”. Normally hang out in South Auckland but occasionally travel to places like Peachgrove Road in Hamilton. The solution, according to the experts, is to pay them compensation under the Treaty of Waitangi and even more compensation through Work and Income. Andrew Little doesn’t want them locked up under any circumstances!
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:34pm
      - realityczech
        
        Tangata Whenua – dragging the Polly’s into it is a trick the pigs do on telly with the generic Maori or Pacific Islander description on crimewatch.
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:36pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Billy T James famously said that it would be possible to show more Maori culture on TV by screening Crimewatch three times a week (he thought once a week wasn’t enough).
        
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        July 19, 2018 7:38pm
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    kea, why not go the whole hog and carry a modified AR 15 ( bump stock )
    
    Too bad if there is mistaken identity like a family member is caught in the crossfire.
    
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-how-easy-it-is-to-make-an-ar-15-even-more-insanely-dangerous_us_59d53f85e4b0becae8022496
    
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    July 19, 2018 7:49pm
    - realityczech
      
      stupidboy, why fuck around with a bump-stock when they make full auto rifles?
      
      Ideal protection when faced with violent mobs crying about nazis.
      
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      July 19, 2018 8:16pm
realityczech

The Other Victims of the Nazis

Ina R. Friedman

Fifty years after the end of World War II, few people are aware that Jews were not the only victims of the Nazis. In addition to six million Jews, more than five million non-Jews were murdered under the Nazi regime. Among them were Gypsies, Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, blacks, the physically and mentally disabled, political opponents of the Nazis, including Communists and Social Democrats, dissenting clergy, resistance fighters, prisoners of war, Slavic peoples, and many individuals from the artistic communities whose opinions and works Hitler condemned.1

https://www.socialstudies.org/sites/default/files/publications/se/5906/590606.html
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July 19, 2018 7:33pm
- stephieboy
  
  kea, that is very sporting of you given the writer of the article is Jewish,
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Ina-R.-Friedman/e/B001HD135K
  
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  July 19, 2018 7:46pm
  - realityczech
    
    No shit stupidboy. Most of the stuff I post that you scream “Nazi” about is written by Jews.
    
    You are not called stupid just for fun.
    
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    July 19, 2018 7:48pm
Nostradamus

From Nasska’s Religion Today file: Malcolm Turnbull tells Pope to sack Archbishop Philip Wilson after court ruling

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has called on the Pope to “sack” Adelaide’s Archbishop Philip Wilson.

Wilson was convicted of covering up abuse by priest Jim Fletcher in the NSW Hunter region in the 1970s, making him the most senior Catholic in the world to be convicted of concealing sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 12 months’ detention, eligible for parole after six months, but has said he will lodge an appeal against his conviction.

The Archbishop has refused to quit his post, and Mr Turnbull has previously said Wilson should resign — a call echoed by Opposition Leader Bill Shorten and South Australian Premier Steven Marshall.

Today the Prime Minister intensified the pressure on the Catholic Church by saying “the time has come for the Pope to sack him”.

I wonder how the Pope will respond to this development? According to the president of the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference Archbishop: “Only the Pope can compel a bishop to resign.”
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July 19, 2018 8:03pm
- nasska
  
  …..”The Archbishop has refused to quit his post”…..
  
  Harder to remove from the trough than Labour politicians! 🙂
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:10pm
nasska

A man’s shagging a prostitute in Christchurch……she is giving him the works; massage, full oral and finally climbing on top and riding him to a finish .

” Wow” he says that was amazing how much do I owe you love?”

She replied, “Call it $70 with family discount.”
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July 19, 2018 8:08pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From the NZ.com website:
  
  Christchurch City easily wins the heart of visitors with its reputation as New Zealand’s Garden City. … The Garden City’s crowning glory is Hagley Park …
  
  🙂
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:17pm
- realityczech
  
  Speaking of which, where is Mad dad recently?
  
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  July 19, 2018 8:19pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Dad works for Tourism Christchurch, so I heard. He was working on the “Come to ~~Cum in~~ Christchurch” marketing campaign.
    
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    July 19, 2018 8:21pm
Piniwi

The demise of the Muddy Party moved closer today as Flavell jumps ship for a bigger trough of a gibberish named organisation to continue towards separatism.
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July 19, 2018 9:04pm
wiseowl

Lauren and Stefan on Bolt report soon.
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July 19, 2018 9:04pm
Newbie

Well, next after Marama Davidson’s claims of death/rape threats, it appears now that Valerie Morse, of Urewera 17 fame, has, too, claimed to have recieved death threats.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1807/S00219/no-room-for-racism-in-aotearoa.htm

Now, don’t get me wrong, but receiving threats of any kind is not nice. I’m sure such threats should warrant the attention of the police, should the recipients complain, but if they haven’t, then I’m left wondering what the true story is.
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July 19, 2018 10:24pm
- Jack5
  
  It’s a stunt to try to suppress free speech.
  
  If the Leftists buckle to the mad-as-a-meat-axe Valerie Morse, then the Labour-Greens, and indeed NZ First, will be judged for cowardice towards the lunatic fringe.
  
  Given the hammering the Government is going to take for the kamikaze waves of strikes that have begun, the Labour-Greens will be on the way to the rubbish bin.
  
  Morse and Co. are essentially anti-democratic and totalitarian. They reject the democratic avenues for putting their views and cases across, and try to bludgeon the majority into accepting their demands.
  
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