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stephieboy

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Well, the alt righters have finally done something that was deemed impossible namely get off their collective buts and organises a protest rally.

I suppose the number of one hundred or so was a bit underwhelming but lts say it’s a start
Not sure about the young girl apparently handing out leaflets and the two oldies carrying free Tommy Robinson placards ( the three swell the numbers? )

Yet let’s give one cheer and the sound of one hand clapping?

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/361812/auckland-free-speech-rally-over-controversial-speakers-draws-crowds
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July 15, 2018 8:04am
- NK
  
  So those who defend free speech are now considered “alt right”?
  
  I didn’t go to yesterday’s protest, but did go to the other major “free speech” protest in about 2007/8. That was a big one against the fascist Electoral Finance Act, brought in by another left wing politician, while Goff served in her cabinet.
  
  So if those defending freedoms and rights are now “alt right, what does that make Labour?
  
  Fascists. That’s what.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:12am
  - G152
    
    I’d be more inclined to call the latest bunch of fools incompetent
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:28am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Anyone who doesn’t follow the accepted narrative must be punished. Diversity of thought es ist verboten.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:05am
  - freethinker
    
    How about ultra left?
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:18am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      How left can you go?
      I imagine that you would end up with the human equivalent of an ant colony.
      The group is everything; the individual is nothing.
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:37am
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      How about savagery, un-humane, un-civilised and so on and so forward. After all its the very principals of Human Individuality/ism, of Human Rights, Rule of Law, the Scientific Process and the processes of socratic thought, debate and civil discourse that seperates us from what we used to call savages.
      
      And their ideology is a complete rejection of Human Rights, of modern Science, just as the soviet union rejected the science of agriculture, of selective breeding they believed that everything was a factor of the environment, that all seeds were equal, because to acknowledge the existence of genetic determinism in agriculture would be to acknowledge the inheirt falacy of the underlying concept of Marxism. That concept being that we are all born equal, and that differences in outcome are the result of oppression and not the talents of the indivudal.
      
      And as a result the soviet union had the only major non-wartime famine in europe in the 20th/21st century where some 20 million people starved to death. Mao repeated this in the East killing 45 Million people. Now we have the greens trying to interfere in our agricultural sector, expect output to decline just like it has under every other socialised state ran agricultural sector.
      
      And now their direct descendents ‘the left’ rejects the scientific evidence and understanding of economics which thorougly refutes their collectivist ideology. Yet they destroy country after country. They destroyed venezuela, and they are destroying NZ, our education system, healthcare system and housing system all of which are highly socialised are all absoloute failures.
      
      And when ACT allowed maori people to set-up private non-socialized schools, and those schools were not failing their children, rather than admit they were wrong, abolish the socialised state-controlled schools and replace them with universal charter schools, Labour has shut those schools down! Shut them down because they cant have their socialist school system look bad! Just as they have always campaigned against Vanguard Military school!
      
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      July 15, 2018 4:36pm
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    Well I was called a NAZI here yesterday for opposing ratepayer funded household refuse on a taurpulin in an ‘art gallery’ because NAZIS also opposed ‘degenerate art’ like taxpayer funded poop in a can.
    
    And somehow that means you are Deustch Socialist who wants to kill 4 million jews and invade poland…
    
    Next I will be called a ‘RACIST’ for opposing that giant presumably taxpayer funded statue to some made-up maori god on bastion point that every Christian, Muslim and Budhist Family will be expected to pay for.
    
    And tomorrow I will be called an islamo phobe or a sexist or something and so on and so forward, just get used to it because the education system and mental health services have failed many of these wretched, poor and misfortunate individuals.
    
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    July 15, 2018 3:48pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You seem a bit over sensitive. I merely pointed out the Nazis also used the term ‘degenerate art’ to describe art that offended their sensibilities. I just found it interesting that you clicked on to the same term. Like when those cultural Marxists who are everywhere in our institutions accidentally drop a phrase like ‘false consciousness’.
      
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      July 15, 2018 4:45pm
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Look miken you might think household refuse on a Taurpulin or Poop in a Can is just art thats ‘slightly offensive’, this is absoloutely 100% verifiably incorrect. Poop in a can and household refuse on a taurpulin has no artistic value is not and never will be ‘art’ no matter how many lies, and how much fake news you and others like you try to spread.
        
        Just as everyone knows that what you are doing by comparing my views to NAZISM is that you are trying to label me as a NAZI, you are essentially calling me a NAZI and frankly its absurd, opposing metaphoric or otherwise, ratepayer funded SHIT on a Taurpulin in an Art Gallery has nothing to do with NAZISM and killing jews, and invading poland.
        
        Go get some help miken. Write to Jacinda and ask her to restore funding to the mental health services as she promised.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:01pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Oh dear, that has got you a little worked up. How about you work out some code for art galleries to follow when deciding what is, and isn’t art. Then maybe you could dream up a suitable uniform for you to wear when you police the code, Comrade Cultural Commissar.
        You leftie snowflakes make me want to puke.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:06pm
  - Doubledimp
    
    Holy cr4p, did I just hear right on One News? The article about the banned speech from Lauren Southern conflated the Free Speech Coalition’s legal challenge with supporting the views she espouses, and naming Don Brash as one of the primary participants? Is that another lawsuit, this time a libel one?
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:19pm
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      Well if it was spoken it would be slander, if it was written it would be libel either way listening to NewstalkZB earlier today and they continue to attack these two people everytime they bring them up, even going so far as to call stephan a white supremacist/racist who thinks ‘blacks’ are inferrior based on observed differences in IQ.
      
      This is of course absurd and a complete missrepresentation of the established and ‘Scientific’ Matters of Fact that Stefan Molyneux has read and is repeating for the benefit of his viewership regarding the distribution of intelligence, which like height, looks, eye-sight and many degenerative and herediatry diseases are not equally distributed.
      
      Infact scientists have discovered as of last month over 1000 new genes which contribute to the determination of the hereditary portion of intelligence, therefore it is believed by scientists that we can explain double digit percentage values of the herediatry portion of intelligence through genetics, which we can test for.
      
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/brainstorm/201806/how-much-does-education-really-boost-intelligence
      
      Although I also heard them talking about polls they conducted to determine the validity of theories of man made global warming. I think that it should go without saying that at one point in time 84% of people thought the world was flat, we wouldn’t use that as evidence for the world being flat, just as we wouldn’t use it as evidence for anything else. We also wouldn’t poll people on how much fuel to put in a space ship for a manned mission to the moon… Nor would we take a poll on whether someone should be burnt as a witch or ‘climate science denier’… That is not how science is conducted. Science is not a popularity contest. You need evidence!!
      
      And Science is not racist. The lieing press however is a bunch of uneducated, anti-science, anti-human rights biggots. The guy on NTZB was saying he supported free speech, but ‘there has to be limits if I really don’t like something, I am not saying they shouldn’t be able to speak, just that they should have to speak in an empty paddock’…
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:27pm
- igm
  
  stephiegoatshagger: Alt right, as you incorrectly call them, are not protesters. Most are busy working, running businesses, or maintaining properties, when the scum that turn out en masse, are beneficiaries and unemployable with all day to do nothing!
  You would be totally conversant with this style of living being a rug pilot leech!
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:19am
  - NK
    
    Yes. The reason I wasn’t at the protest was I was in the office working, earning money to pay my tax and wages of my staff. The alt left wouldn’t understand that.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:21am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Like the young girl and two oldies featured in the media photo?
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:21am
    - NK
      
      Most are busy…
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  You lost me at ‘alt-righters’.
  Dickhead.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:23am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Captain Mainwaring, Ok will rabid righters do ?
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:25am
    - NK
      
      Yes. In the same way that loser, fascist lefties applies to your ilk.
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:27am
    - waikatogirl
      
      sb: “Ok will rabid righters do ?”
      
      How about you call them what they are, normal, hardworking, everyday Kiwis who want to get on with their lives without being told who, and what they cannot listen to.
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:33am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,Crying his little face off the other day because he was outed as a pervert by his own posts ,
      no septic,you can make as many contributions as you like but I for one know what you are in your private life it was proven here during this week several times and i haven’t seen you deny it yet.
      I may often add profanities to my posts but would never talk of “tight young girls with lovely little breasts at the mall”,,,PERVERT.
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:37am
  - Simon
    
    “You lost me at ‘alt-righters’”
    
    Lost me at Soyboy
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:04am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Still better than the Auckland Peace Action group who have organized demonstrations at Devonport Naval Base every weekend since 27 June to protest NZs involvement in RIMPAC.
  
  There are protests planned for 30 June, 7 July and 14 July, as well as next weekend.
  
  To date, not one protester has showed up.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:32am
  - igm
    
    Seems a wonder there are not many ragheads and imams helping them.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:44am
    - ztev
      
      Raghead ? Thats insulting to Simon. he was wearing the pastun hat or pakol
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:14am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And they harassed and scared a group of elderly people at a film festival
    
    Peace action my arse. Racist marxists
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:57am
  - KevOB
    
    RIMPAC sounds like it should be held in conjunction with the “Hero” parade.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:04pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Sqwawk!
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:36am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Sqwark
  Alt-right
  Trumpeters
  See your doctor
  
  Ooo, Stormy …
  
  It’s Sunday Steph
  Stop choking your chicken
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:38am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Not enough warning, I only learned about it after is was over!
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:28am
- rightoverlabour
  
  I can just imagine stephieboy sitting up all night composing this and hitting the refresh button waiting for the general debate to be posted….. salivating at the thought of his “gotcha” moment… Sad really.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:08pm
- UpandComer
  
  We’re all working.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:12pm
artemisia

Well I had my mandatory Maori face to face interview last week with a person from Stats Department. I was randomly selected based on the census.

It took about an hour, dozens of questions, some very detailed and intrusive and I thought overall biased towards collecting only some data.

Examples – a lot of specific cultural and language questions, several about kapa haka involvement, employment, voluntary work, happiness / wellbeing ratings, aspects of living situations, family related questions, rating of professions – mainly police, justice, media.

Really have to wonder why the department is collecting all this information, and hard to believe it is unconnected with lobbying for more taxpayer funding for Maori.

I was offered, and accepted, a copy of the overall findings when available.
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July 15, 2018 8:05am
- Inandout
  
  I would have feigned some complaint which made communication difficult.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:36am
- waikatogirl
  
  artemesia, I was selected after the previous census to complete that survey, although I’m not Maori, to collect info on the views of NZ’ers. I recently received a follow-up questionnaire (it’s been a few years) from the School of Psychology at Auckland Uni with pages of questions. It went in the bin as I wasn’t inclined to give this Col any more personal information. ?
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:41am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Won’t that bias the whole survey towards those who are highly supportive of its aims?
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:33am
    - artemisia
      
      I think so. I am atypical Maori now (via bootstraps) but know my family history. I will be an extreme outlier on some of the questions. Might redress a tiny bit of balance.
      
      An interesting omission was level of and attitudes to education. Suggest that might be more important than kapa haka participation but would it fit the narrative?
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:02am
  - DJ Ward
    
    I’m with Classic Liberal.
    
    You created bias in the research.
    
    It’s a similar to making a statement like “xy% of employees have been sexually harassed in the workplace”. However the data is collected only from high female employers, knowing the average man would experience less. This increases the xy% to the question. The True figure is less.
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:52am
    - waikatogirl
      
      A bias can also be caused by fudging answers. There is a margin for error
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:34am
  - KevOB
    
    That’s survey a morbid interest in everything wrong in NZ society.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:10pm
  - Harkman
    
    WG I got one of these about 2-3 weeks ago, and binned it too.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:09pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Hahahahahahaha
  
  I had a similar detailed face-to-face interview with a Stats Dept chap. (Illegal to not take part).
  
  Apart from all the well-being /happiness crap and questions on where I identified on the LGBTXYZ scale, the emphasis seemed to be on dry housing.
  
  So at the end of the interview, the chap asked would I be willing for our house to undergo an inspection by a Building/Energy expert…. to which I readily assented.
  That was months ago. We might be frozen to death or covered in mould spores before some BRANZ maven ventures up here.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:52am
  - artemisia
    
    Dry housing? The underlying socialist agendas are for a rental warrant of fitness, or more rights for renters, or more taxpayer funded housing. Or all of the above. Lobbied for by academics looking forward to lots of lovely government funding for years to come. And by the usual suspects who want better private rental quality at cheaper rent.
    
    It is time for there to be Stats Dept interviews of residential property investors – the first two questions to be –
    
    1. Are you considering exiting the sector because of all the crapping on landlords?
    2. Are you at all likely to be building new rentals or buying off the plans, or otherwise increasing your rental portfolio.
    
    Won’t happen. Fingers in ears, lalalalala.
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:04am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Illegal?
    
    Could you have answered every question with “you are invading my privacy and liberty by forcing me to participate”? What would have happened – would they have to write that down?
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:35am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’ve spent much of my working life as a NZ Public Servant….I have no problem cooperating with Gvt Surveys…. (other folks might).
      
      This is the precise wording that accompanied the letter sent to the residents of…(my address):
      
      “Your household has been selected to be interviewed for the New Zealand General Social Survey
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      Your information is so important that, just like with our census, everyone must take part in our surveys.
      
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      Yours sincerely
      Government Statistician.”
      
      The chap did write down some of my complaints about the Question formats.
      
      The ones about the environment were simplistic and showed that the designer of the questions had little understanding of the NZ environment or ecological processes.
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:55am
  - artemisia
    
    About the BRANZ or similar inspection. I don’t doubt Stats Dept itself is correctly random, but is that necessarily the case for follow ups? Do BRANZ or academics take the data and select a random subset to follow up? I’m sure they say they do but let’s face it we have seen plenty of GIGO from academics with no bias or fabrication at all. Riiiiight…
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:28am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      We will see….
      Perhaps they googled the hubby and decided to give us a miss.
      Perhaps they looked where we lived and decided to give us a wide berth.
      Perhaps…..
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:27am
- Simon
  
  “face to face interview last week with a person from Stats ”
  
  me so sorry no speaka da english.
  
  Hey Spats lady I painta you house or any tiling you need for cash ok? Anyfing? Me have lotsa friends we all give cash discount for you. My English gets better as we discuss cash work.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:57am
oldpark

Readers of the Sunday Star Times will be pleased to know that that newspaper the crap of the cream, has increased the price to $3.80 .The price for fake news is getting more expensive. The lies just cost more.
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July 15, 2018 8:07am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Haven’t bought the bloody Labour Party crap sheet since it was about $2.20 and haven’t missed it at all.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:26am
- Justitia
  
  Subscriptions to the Dimpost are going up by about $80 per year while the “content” becomes ever more laughable. They continue to assert their circulation is 98,000 when the latest figures I have seen indicate it is 47,000. Which all suggests they are in a state of accelerating collapse. It will be no great loss when they do go down the plughole, a day for celebration in fact.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:35am
  - igm
    
    Do not know where you get those figures, but can assure you they are damn near correct. Fairfax have a total collapse in contract advertising, and their NZ gross is a disgrace. The Aus component of the company is extremely concerned as NZ is dragging them into freefall.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:41am
    - Justitia
      
      I have just looked at the NZ Audit Bureau of Circulations (ABC). The Dimpost’s circulation in fact appears to be under 46,000 as at 31 March this year, a slump of more than 10% over the preceding year. I wonder if they ever ask themselves “why?”
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:10am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        I have no doubt they ask themselves why.
        Interviewing their keyboards seems to be what they do.
        If they asked the question of those leaving in droves they might get some useful -albeit unprintable- answers.
        I couldn’t tell you how many free offers I’ve tossed in the bin. If folk don’t want the product even if it’s free, maybe the product needs reformulating?
        
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        July 15, 2018 9:25am
      - igm
        
        Their ABC figures appear to have been pumped a little. This is not unknown as it helps to keep ad rates up.
        
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        July 15, 2018 2:20pm
  - GazzaW
    
    At the other end of the scale the Herald offered me a sub (all seven papers) home delivered for $7 a week after completing a five week free subscription offered in conjunction with the AA. After a family discussion we flagged it because none of us had given the Herald more than a cursory glance during the free trial.
    
    It seems the Herald can’t give it away currently which must be a major concern for advertisers.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:25am
    - KiWombat
      
      Herald & DP are very useful on the west coast. However I’m not aware of any coaster on a “freebie” at the moment, they seem to have twigged that we want them to light our wetbacks rather than for the content !
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:01pm
  - Paulus
    
    Where are the figures for sales versus production numbers. If I read a paper it is usually on the side in the coffee bar and is read until usually tattered due to the crap in it.
    I assume that is called circulation ?
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:27am
- Southern Raider
  
  You would have thought they would have worked out the circular issue
  
  Biased content drops customers but have fixed costs so need to put the price up. Introduce more biased content with drops customers but have fixed costs …..
  
  And around and around it goes
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:13pm
lifesgood

Ye Gods! Now the Maori want a colossal status of some Maori legendary figure put up on Bastion Point – bigger than the statue of liberty, they claim, in order to make a feature of Auckland Harbour. And here I was thinking Rangitoto did that. Our moronic mayor is going to give them $1m OF OUR MONEY towards it. I’m going to go all lefty here and state that I am outraged.
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July 15, 2018 8:13am
- igm
  
  Who is paying for it Goff? Best look for another job as even the left-wing scum that support you have had enough!
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:23am
  - NK
    
    Desley Simpson appears gushing about it in the paper. So does the chair of the local board, all of whom are “alt right”.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:29am
    - tf78
      
      I’m very disappointed with Desley – not what I expected from her at all. Trough’s must come with conditions of compliance to tow the lefty line.
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:34am
      - NK
        
        To his credit, Alastair Bell seems non-committal.
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:54am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Alistair Bell non-commital, what is new? The problem with the National Party is its Board as much as some of its MPs. I’ve known Bell also since the days of the Young Nats.
        
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        July 15, 2018 10:00am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        ‘toe’ the line.
        From the boxing command.
        
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        July 15, 2018 10:04am
      - Souvlaki
        
        Yes…the National Party now seem a bunch of spineless appeasers. Afraid of their own shadow….a ” shiver looking for a spine to run up” I recall the words of Muldoon to attack Rowling! They need a testosterone implant!
        
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        July 15, 2018 10:12am
      - ztev
        
        Well Alistair Bell has got somewhere ( plus owned a helicopter- a Squirrel?) while you are still a nobody HK
        
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        July 15, 2018 11:06am
      - Southern Raider
        
        Desley is probably shaping herself up for a tilt at the mayoralty and so is abandoning her local elected area to show she is in touch with the broader Auckland people
        
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        July 15, 2018 12:15pm
    - Viking2
      
      Desley Simpson
      alt right. Unlikely
      empty airhead kept by a wealthy man.
      
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      July 15, 2018 8:40am
      - hullkiwi
        
        As someone who knew her when she was Chairwoman of Remmers Young Nats & before she was married to Scott Simpson, all I can say is you are not wrong there.
        
        Any C&R/National party people thinking of her for mayor, think again. The result would be embarrassment.
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:43am
      - ztev
        
        Shes the ‘pick of the crop’
        
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        July 15, 2018 11:04am
    - backster
      
      Sure you don’t mean pseudo right, there are plenty of them around.
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:30am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Goofy and the Council have earmarked $1mill for initial design ($100k this year and $900k in future years).
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:40am
    - sooty
      
      Goofy wanted the statue in his likness. But it was changed at the last minute to one of him with his pants around his ankles and his goldern ring pointing to the stars!
      
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      July 15, 2018 12:52pm
- VicParking
  
  It’s cost will over run by 50%, it will cost yonks to maintain and in 60 years it will be pulled down because the figure depicted will be found out to have been a kiddy fiddler, slave keeper and did not pay his petrol/toilet tax on time. Alla Penny.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:05am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And the Iwi will not want to fund a single dollar
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:17pm
    - sooty
      
      But they will plenty of koha to approve it.
      
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      July 15, 2018 12:53pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Would not such a statue on Bastion Point be seen as like the pine tree on One Tree Hill; i.e., be perceived as symbol of one race’s superiority over another?
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:57am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I think you have a point there. Certainly that applies to place names, where the fondness of some for retaining names that commemorate obscure figures like British MPs and Lords of the Admiralty can only be explained by the mentality of “we named it, so we own it now”. So this works in reverse for renaming.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:08am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      I agree.
      People tend to give things a name in the language that they love.
      A geographical feature named after an obscure foreign aristocrat takes on the name in its own right. Changing a name for reasons of “fashion” is like airbrushing a photograph to remove those who have fallen out of favor; it is the action of a totalitarian-leaning society.
      
      A name is a name is a name. It serves as a temporal anchor. Uproot it at your peril.
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:13am
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    Rob will make sure it will come down.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:33am
- RF
  
  Yep. It’s going to be called… Colossus of Auckland.
  
  Named after Sun God Goofy.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:19am
  - tf78
    
    Goof’s Colossus Anus Horribilis.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:26am
  - GazzaW
    
    A giant statue of Goofy in Michelangelo style a la David?
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:32am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      A giant cock then
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:14pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Hmm hopefully it’s accurate so it will have to include a bottle of booze a joint and a dead kid hangin off its arm….
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:10pm
- KevOB
  
  So Papatuanuku is to be raised above Bastion Point. This is a Maori Goddess and affront to the Christian community of NZ. It wont please Ratana, Tongans or Samoans. Strife can be expected.
  
  Stepping into other people cultures is only done by the foolhardy, ignorant, guilt-wrecked or politically vainglorious.
  
  Auckland and New Zealand is not subject to Maori spirituality.
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:58pm
- Scott
  
  I don’t like it either. But the left wants to promote pagan spirituality and the superiority of Maori values, or something.
  But I shall be talking to Mr Goff about Auckland council paying for a Christ the Redeemer type statue. Seeing as Mr Goff is keen on religious statues I think my chances are pretty good! ?
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:22pm
Happychappy

I see their is doubt that camera’s will become law on fishing vessels under the Coalition Government so does that mean Winston First and Shane Jones have rewarded their donors at the expense of Nurses, Teachers and other Government workers. How can you call this Government a Coalition when Winston has got 75% of the money from the budget to repay his Donors for their support to NZ First.
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July 15, 2018 8:14am
- Viking2
  
  Perhaps Andrew Talley has a point. Camera’s won’t fix anything. Developing better targets and systems and rules would achieve much more.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105432220/industry-letter-to-government-criticises-fishing-camera-proposal
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:23am
- GazzaW
  
  Surely the Greens will walk out of the Coalition given their firm stance on the requirement for onboard cameras on fishing vessels?
  
  Oh hang on, we’re getting to enjoy those baubles of power.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:36am
CJames

There is a good example of the environmental bullshit that activists and even government departments try these days. They claim land covered in wildling pines has high conservation values so can’t be developed
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/06/05/113457/minister-mulls-clamp-on-commissioner
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/04/16/105223/agency-tensions-exposed
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July 15, 2018 8:14am
- G152
  
  Wilding pines are a weed FFS.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:31am
  - VicParking
    
    They are self planting trees that are doing their bit towards the 1 billion. Shanes new forestry DEpt will be counting each one and sending the number to KB so we can reduce our counter.
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:08am
  - freethinker
    
    The Environmentalists are just protecting their own species.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:42am
duggledog

Speaking of wastes of money Oldpark how about ‘The Spinoff TV’ by those same people who like to employ hate-journo like Hayden Donnell

16 episodes of utter shit on fellow bedwetters TV3

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12087126

Cost to taxpayer: $700,000. Hosted by two girls with no life experience.

It turns out making television isn’t that easy after all. Will heads roll at NZOA for this? Unlikely.

Let it sink in folks. $700,000 up in smoke.

If you’re a nurse, a teacher or anyone else hoping for some more dough – right there is one of a myriad of reasons you will never be paid what you are worth.

Just like the Maori TV series ‘Artefact’ – cost more than Spinoff TV and was watched by – wait for it – 0.8% of New Zealanders.
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July 15, 2018 8:16am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I do hope TV1 broadcasts Artefact.
  
  I only got to watch one episode but I was very impressed with it.
  Latest research being intelligently talked about, really good visuals, and Dame Anne Salmond was a brilliant presenter.
  
  http://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/artefact
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:05am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Artifact was very good.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:15am
- Harkman
  
  It’s a form of ideological corruption. But National should have gotten rid of NZ On Air while they could.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:33am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yeah, yeah. In their time, the National Party has been opposed to lots of things, only to enthusiastically endorse and retain them while in office.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:17am
- The Heat
  
  That picture of the presenters says it all.
  
  “We’re trying soooo hard to be ironic!”.
  
  Perhaps try hard to be, you know, not crap.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:36am
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The President’s proves just what an arsehole he can be. His visit to Scotland reminds the Scots the time he built barriers and walls around his golf courses so he claims his neighbours could not get a look see.

Apparently also harassing them every step of the way,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65xrKijYgWU
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July 15, 2018 8:19am
- Paulus
  
  Why should Trump not visit Scotland – his mother came from there !
  And it is his golf course.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:36am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Nicola Sturgeon, the socialist woman running Scotland refused to meet Trump and went to an LGBQ festival instead.
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:08am
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      What is more LGBQ is the old acronym, it is getting out of control it’s now LBGTRZP£2 ? it’s getting too much to remember.
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:20am
    - calendar girl
      
      That haughty refusal says more about the tantrum-ready Sturgeon than it does about Trump.
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:34am
    - lifesgood
      
      Sturgeon – She’s scum.
      
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      July 15, 2018 12:38pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        The only good thing that comes from a sturgeon is caviar.
        
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        July 15, 2018 1:16pm
    - Paulus
      
      Who cares – am sure Trump doesn’t want to meet this socialist woman.
      
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      July 15, 2018 12:59pm
    - Justitia
      
      Why are Scottish socialists named after cold water fish? The Sturgeon’s predecessor was a Mr Salmon or Bloater or some such, was it not? Och eye, she’s but a wee tiddler.
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:57pm
  - VicParking
    
    And he plants trees like those around Remuera golf course and 90% of other golf courses. Stephie. Morning. If you want to know what an arsehole is look in a mirror or lift Aisha‘s tail. ??
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:13am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  SB – you’ll be pleased that proof has emerged of the President colluding with Russia.
  
  The only problem for leftist lemmings is that it’s a hot mike take of “Saint” Obama promising the Russian ambassador that “after the election he’ll have more flexibility”.
  
  As the media relations guru of the modern neo-fascist left – Goebbels – instructed “Accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty”.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:42am
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    DP , full transcript, please that will give the full context?
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:02am
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,you the father of google asking DP for information ,,,,ha,ha,ha,ha,…
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:08am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Obama chatting up Prime Minister Medvedev.
      
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/us/politics/obama-caught-on-microphone-telling-medvedev-of-flexibility.html?mtrref=www.google.co.nz&gwh=E7783A43C87B161302819EE26753EA14&gwt=pay
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:26am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, it was known as a gaffe that had no effect on the 2012 the election outcome.
        
        Contrast to the current US President’s gaffes which are notorious and legion,
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13kCfuLd3lI
        
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        July 15, 2018 12:57pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        it was known as a gaffe
        
        Is that your latest line?
        
        You used it a couple days ago when I posted the link to Goff and lowering the age of consent.
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/07/the_smear_off_strikes_again.html#comment-2255005
        
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        July 15, 2018 2:03pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Sqwawk! Proof! Sqwawk!
      
      What a buffoon comment – imagine if you had to provide a full transcript of all the insano assertions you’ve made over the years.
      
      A) you wouldn’t find any supporting evidence for your Kool-Aid views
      B) your head would explode when you realised that you’ve been believing in lies all your life
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:20am
- Inandout
  
  Obama visited his paternal sperm donor in Kenya, so why can’t Trump visit Scotland?
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:02am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I wonder what those hopelessly unsophisticated congress critters of the 1970s, who made Jimmy Carter sell his peanut farm, would make of a president combining his government visit to the UK with a generous slice of promoting his golf resort.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:58am
    - ztev
      
      False. Carter wasnt forced to sell when he became President but put into a blind trust. John Key did the same with his commercial interests
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:02am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Sorry for getting that detail wrong. Times have changed though, and I for one can’t see anything wrong with Trump promoting his resorts while on presidential business. Those resorts represent everything about Trump’s values, which are American values.
        
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        July 15, 2018 1:28pm
oldpark

@stevieboy.
Same type of harassment that the muslims do to gay people in Middle East and Indonesia. Difference is they are thrown off buildings and are murdered.
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July 15, 2018 8:24am
kowtow

What goes round……

‘The home of former Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was attacked with an explosive device last night, the party said.’

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gerry-adams-tells-those-who-attacked-his-home-to-explain-to-me-what-this-is-about-37117738.html
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July 15, 2018 8:24am
- stephieboy
  
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  Kowtow, the Northern Irish the most civilised peoples in Europe?
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:27am
  - igm
    
    They are damn lot more civilised than the vile scum you align with.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:57am
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      igm , including Gerry Adams?
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:03am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy ,regurgitate ,regurgitate regurgitate, fucking endlessly……
        
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        July 15, 2018 9:10am
- Komata
  
  kowtow
  
  Funny how he doesn’t like being on the receiving end of what he used to dish out…
  
  Perhaps he’s ‘offended’ someone; it comes easily to some.
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:38am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Could not have happened to a more deserving arsehole on the planet.
  
  A more vile and odious man is yet to walk the earth.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:44am
- freethinker
  
  Live by the Sword die by the Sword -quell Surprise!!
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:52am
Manolo

A perfectly valid question?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/396999-trump-on-russian-indictments-why-didnt-obama-do-something
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July 15, 2018 8:27am
- stephieboy
  
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  Manolo,” A perfectly valid question”?
  
  Why would that be?
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:55am
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, Barack Hussein Obama, your incompetent idol, did not lift a finger. He was. and still is, utterly useless!
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:39am
fernglas

It is indeed a valid question. An equally valid question is what Trump is going to do now that indictments have been presented during his Presidency. He has been dealt this hand by his predecessor. Will he now behave as he thinks his predecessor should have?
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July 15, 2018 8:50am
- oldpark
  
  @fernglass
  Especially when the snooping took place in the Obama reign. Wonder why he deliberately allowed the snooping. Oh yes he was at that time allowing crooked Hillary and her gang to sell 20% of uranium to the Russians. He felt nothing suspicious here,move on.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:15am
- KevOB
  
  This will eventually explode covering all the democrat and deep state actors in a dissolving caustic potash soup.
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:09pm
realityczech

Here we go. This Kiwi made a response video to a vegan channel that attacks meat eaters and spreads hate lies and misinformation. He is being proceeded against through the courts under new legislation.

Typically the “victims” in these cases demand they can say what they like about others on the web, but also demand no one calls them out.

Imagine if I wanted the identities of people I upset revealed and then prosecuted cause they offended me 🙂 I get as good as I give and that is the way I want it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/105389474/could-this-be-new-zealands-worst-troll-kiwi-youtuber-could-be-exposed-by-a-california-lawsuit

Note how the media frame this, guilty by accusation.
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July 15, 2018 8:51am
- NK
  
  The guy from Netsafe makes the same mistake all cheerleaders of the Harmful Digital Communications Act make: That without this law you couldn’t prosecute people. Yet, making death threats and threatening physical harm has been illegal for 350years. The HDCA didn’t make them so.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:02am
MCos

Tweet of the day, yesterday actually, from someone called Eion Muskie

‘I live in rural PA where Pizza Hut is fine dining. If any immigrants want to come change my culture for fucks sake please do it’
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July 15, 2018 9:02am
- ztev
  
  ICE is everywhere but harder for migrants to hide in places like Frogjump tenn
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:59am
waikatogirl

Q+A on Lauren Southern (alt-right in Coran Dann’s view) v Phil Goff to be on this morning.
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July 15, 2018 9:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  Sir Lockwood Smith not giving poor socialist Coran Dann the answers he was looking for against Trump. ?
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:11am
  - freethinker
    
    I dislike the implication from Liela Harraden that Trump should not comment on UK|EU affairs but ok for Nicola Splurgon to comment on US internal affairs. Trump is correct That Theresa May -Maybe, Maybe not -is attempting to deceive the British public that Britain is actually leaving the EU when he said a UK|US FTA would be difficult if Mays current proposal was passed and accepted as the US would not be dealing with the UK but actually the EU which reveals his total contempt for that evil empire. I read in the UK press that Field Marshall, Rear Admiral and Master of the Universe Drunkers feted FTA with Canada after 8 years of negotiations is looking unlikely to pass at least whilst Italy continues its opposition and amusingly Drunker was seen wobbling with a facile facial grin and left in a wheelchair, this was claimed to be Sciatica, yeah right, more like too much Pinot Noir.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:06am
hullkiwi

A case of the PC world swallowing itself…..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12089010

This is reminiscent of the feminist mantra when I was at university of…

“All men are rapists”

Which reminds me….
Did anyone hear Mary McGee being interviewed on Red Radio yesterday….in a nutshell to her family violence is a male gender problem….
During the interview she finally conceded that the problem is in the main with low socio economic families, living on benefits etc. Why doesn’t she say where the problem really is?

Until this woman and others who claim to be concerned with family violence address the groups which perpetrate the violence on their families, they are never going to solve the problem.
We need to be real here, as a country of 4.5mill, NZ’s family violence statistics are appalling, but saying it is a “male problem” is not focusing on those minority of men who are causing the issues.

This is because Mary McGee and the like treat it is a sensitive racial issue, and say we must let whanau, and iwi resolve it. Meanwhile she then attacks all men and says it is a gender issue…To which I say b******t.

It is:

A social issue, not helped by the benefits handouts of the last 45 years; and

It is predominantly a male issue within low socio-economic groups of specific racial groups.

Deal with the groups and the issues, instead of mouthing off on National Radio and a start on reducing the issue will occur.
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July 15, 2018 9:04am
- holysheet
  
  How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
  12
  One to screw it in,
  one to blame men for creating the need for illumination,
  one to blame men for inventing such a faulty means of illumination,
  one to suggest the whole “screwing” bit to be too “rape-like”,
  one to deconstruct the lightbulb itself as being phallic,
  one to blame men for not changing the bulb,
  one to blame men for trying to change the bulb instead of letting a woman do it,
  one to blame men for creating a society that discourages women from changing light bulbs,
  one to blame men for creating a society where women change too many light bulbs,
  one to advocate that lightbulb changers should have wage parity with electricians,
  one to alert the media that women are now “out-lightbulbing” men,
  and one to just sit there taking pictures for her blog for photo-evidence that men are unnecessary.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:08am
  - DJ Ward
    
    All I can say is, holysheet.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:47am
- DJ Ward
  
  DV is a complex subject.
  
  With males there is about 22% that will be violent towards a partner. That’s the full range of course, from brutality to somewhat trivial.
  With females about 38% that will be violent towards a partner. That’s the full range of course, from brutality to somewhat trivial.
  
  Anybody who says DV is a male gender issue is blind to the bigotry of the subject.
  If something has a cause then punishing the result will only result in people building empires seeking to punish it.
  If you have a result and you treat the cause then you no longer have the result.
  
  The question about what that cause is could be associated with other behavours that may not specifically be those of males of that race. The nature vs nurture debate and others.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:25am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Have you ever watched Korean TV comedies on Netflix? Female on male violence seems to be a standard feature (wives beating up husbands). This seems to be considered very funny.
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:08pm
- GoVege
  
  Let whanau and iwi resolve it?
  What a laugh, that will never happen.
  The ones getting bashed are the younger women and the kids.
  The ones with the power to stop it….the males and old biddies, relish their superior status and are never gonna give it up for mere younger females and children.
  I met a young Maori woman once who told me her own mother used to tell her partner to bash her.
  Until all women get gender equality in Polynesian cultures, the violence will continue.
  They also need to recognize the rights of the individual, but those always come last behind the group and the powerful.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:50pm
- GoVege
  
  There is plenty of violence in upper socioeconomic groups too.
  Not as extreme as other races, but women can’t complain because if hubby gets a conviction, they will soon join the lower socioeconomic stats…..
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:55pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    Are men who are victims of DV able ring the cops?
    
    What are the barriers for a male DV victim?
    
    I would suggest your underestimating who’s getting the raw deal.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:34pm
  - realityczech
    
    “women can’t complain ”
    
    Vege, I assure you they can dear. 🙂
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:40pm
Harkman

Dopey Dann said “Good morning” and Lockwood is sitting there and it was 10:05 PM. Dann then proceeded to bag Trump and Lockwood Smith turned around and we’ll actually Trump was right about the “soft Brexit.”
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July 15, 2018 9:11am
Inandout

Hannity put on his brave hat and interviewed some London ‘protestors’ who were (mostly) anti Trump. I don’t think he found even one person who could intelligently give a reason why they were on the street. The same old altered left mantra that Trump was ‘racist, homophobic, islamophobic, sexist’, etc. If I were an employer and identified an employee who called in ‘sick’ and joined the throng, I would be very annoyed. Apparently Reagan also had the idiots out on the streets when he visited…funny that.
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July 15, 2018 9:12am
- freethinker
  
  Clearly London has become infested by idiots with the collective intelligence of a mongoloid Amoeba evidenced by their election of Rabid Khan as Mayor, similarities with Auckland ??
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:13am
Inandout

Shit, there is a likeness:

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/07/face-of-the-day-1714/
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July 15, 2018 9:15am
softail 1450

Harkman , the fricking idiot Dann probably comes from the same media training establishment as that hero of journalism Jack lame attended ,what a sham NZ television journalism has become, fucking Beta males and Alpha feminists running the joint…
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July 15, 2018 9:17am
- Harkman
  
  According to Dann it’s outrageous that Trump is a disruptor, poor Dann with his little brain can’t grasp what is going on. He’s now a desexed dog.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:24am
  - softail 1450
    
    Harkman He’s Sunday mornings most powerful female interviewer…
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:27am
    - Harkman
      
      Are you harassing him in his safe space? Are you depriving him the chance to be a her? I’m going to protest you right now ?
      
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      July 15, 2018 9:37am
RightNow

LONDON – Thousands of Trump supporters and other right-wing activists took to the nation’s capital on Saturday — a day after anti-Trump protesters had dominated the city.

It’s like they had jobs to go to on Friday.
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July 15, 2018 9:20am
softail 1450

R N, its not funny R N, it’s absolutely fact..
And didn’t want to make things difficult for working London commuters.
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July 15, 2018 9:24am
Harkman

Damien O’Connor is toast, absolute toast. He doesn’t even live locally anymore. National just needs to find a good candidate.
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July 15, 2018 9:29am
- Gravelroad
  
  Yessss, but the majority of those on the Coast will still vote Labour – the “home of socialism” – not business.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:49am
  - Richard
    
    Coasters these days mostly live on welfare or their oldies on the pension. The timber industry was the first to be crippled by govt policy years ago then the mining industry which is almost dead and soon dairy farming will be in the COL’s gunsights. They’ve got a bit of tourism but in terms of employment that industry tends towards being seasonal and mostly low paid. On the plus side the coast has cornered the market in nutjob religious cults who enjoy tax exemption status and exploiting state welfare by putting all their women on WINZ benefits.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:03am
  - Nermal
    
    A teacher I once dated claimed “My grandmother on the West Coast would turn over in her grave if I ever voted other than Labour”
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:11pm
  - rockape
    
    Funny, last time I looked at the 2017 election result for West coast Tasman National got more votes than Labour as they have done for a long time!
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:05pm
    - rockape
      
      In fact last time Labour won the party vote and that was slim was2005. Seems nor only counting chickens before they are hatched but they are roosters anyway!
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:16pm
    - realityczech
      
      “West coast”
      
      Helen Clark’s “feral inbreds” as she fondly called them.
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:19pm
  - rockape
    
    Will you be goint to the big demo against Labour on the 22nd. Seems about 5000 coasters will!
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:19pm
- KiWombat
  
  He’s never lived on the Coast !
  
  I don’t recall him ever seeing the bottom half of his electorate at all. He jets into Hoki once a month for a few hours if we are lucky, but turns right at the highway to visit the Greymouth RSA !
  
  Just once it would be nice if he turned left, pun intended, and visited even a small part of the southern half of his electorate !
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:48am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  West Coast Tasman extends to outer suburbs of Nelson now , and O’Connor does live in his electorate.
  Collins doesnt live in her electorate now either, what exactly is your point
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:53am
  - KiWombat
    
    My point is that he never visits more than half of his electorate, those south of Hokitika do not recall having ever seen him there.
    
    To meet with him they have to travel to the Greymouth RSA when he holds occasional sessions there !
    
    In fact people from HariHari think Paula Bennett is their local MP as she is the only MP to have visited there in living memory !
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:28am
    - DJ Ward
      
      I’m very disappointed she didn’t get lost going to remote NZ.
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:56am
      - KiWombat
        
        Remote ? – HariHari ? – It’s a real metropolis by West Coast standards !!
        
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        July 15, 2018 12:32pm
    - ztev
      
      When you say visit , sound like you mean visit your drinking hole.
      I havent visited either, I shall speak to my people about it
      
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      July 15, 2018 12:44pm
    - rockape
      
      Doesnt Maureen Pugh MP live in Kumera isnt that close to Hari Hari/ Looking at her facebook page she seems to be getting a lot of MPs and ministers visiting the region.
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:56pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Pugh does live in Kumara, which is close to Greymouth. Not exactly close to HariHari though, but at least she is known as a coaster !
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:08pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    You forgot to add John Keys not living in his electorate either.
    
    Slipping Z or is it too expensive for the team to be working on a Sunday or saving a John Key ‘did it too’ for somewhere else?
    
    Not like you to not associate a sentence with Nelson in to have a swipe at Nick Smith.
    
    Have we got a low level Ztev on today?
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:29pm
    - KevOB
      
      Expect that for the weekend–youth rates apply.
      
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      July 15, 2018 2:15pm
    - suzieq
      
      Who’s John Keys?
      
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      July 15, 2018 3:55pm
    - axeman
      
      Obviously this one is not booby-ztev. The one famous for designing shit pipes
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:45pm
    - KiWombat
      
      Whilst it would be ideal to have a “local” representing their electorate, it is not mandatory.
      
      Key lived about 15 minutes from his electorate, and visited it frequently. O’Connor needs to take at least two flights to get to the coast, as well as ComCar trips at both ends. Pugh lives on the coast, but is not the electorate MP.
      
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      July 15, 2018 10:19pm
Harkman

Phil Goff “I’m not against free speech” and he justified his decision because 40% of Auckland was born overseas. “Many people describe them as neo-fascist” um only people who are actual fascists.
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July 15, 2018 9:43am
Manolo

Did our own Muslim stephieboy fly to Scotland?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-taunts-protesters-scottish-134104963.html

Donald Trump has taunted protestors while playing golf at one of his Scottish resorts after Liam Fox attacked those demonstrating against the US President as “an embarrassment to themselves.”
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July 15, 2018 9:45am
- holysheet
  
  If it was me I would have done this to these scum
  
  https://i.ytimg.com/vi/emSBlWMWWmk/maxresdefault.jpg
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:05am
Gravelroad

Goff says on Q&A that he has an obligation to be inclusive of all cultures, races, faiths, people etc and that is what he took into account when he banned the right wing speakers accessing Council venues.
Anyone see the problem here?
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July 15, 2018 9:45am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  He checked his victim hierarchy ready-reckoner and that told him that Muslims can do no wrong so anyone asking reasonable questions about Islam is therefore – a hate speecher.
  
  No need to think, no need to have principles, no need to believe in free speech, no need to have any integrity at all. All you have to do is follow the tenets of identity politics and she’ll be right.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:55am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    “victim hierarchy ready-reckoner ”
    
    Great way to describe the SJM’s toxic, dividing ‘intersectionality’ ideas.
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:48pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  Betcha he wouldnt have denied the venue to a Muslim cleric spouting the Koran bit where it says all Infidels must be killed if they dont convert.
  
  Hate speech to Goff is speech he doesnt agree with.
  
  Just like all Lefties.
  BTW I disagree with what these 2 say but I respect their rights to say just as M Voltaire did.
  
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  July 15, 2018 9:58am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Genuine question, LMS: you disagree, but with what exactly, everything they have said, specific things, what?
    
    I went to some effort to analyse what Goff said was supposedly racist, i.e. Molyneux’s videos on IQ. He talked to academics and never claimed white supremacy at all: rather the opposite, claiming that Caucasians are very much in the middle of the IQ averages.
    
    Now, whether the data are correct and whether genes or environment can be blamed for the differences and whether it even really matters can all be considered.
    
    So was it something specific about Molyneux’s thoughts about IQ you disagree with? Or something else?
    
    Or are you just plunging into the ‘I disagree’ pool because you’re worried about guilt by association, without having really listened to Southern and Molyneux?
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:58pm
- Justitia
  
  Even of as mayor of the supercity dung-heap of Auckland Goff is obliged to abide by the laws of New Zealand, not the assumed prejudices of recent immigrants. I really want to see him taken to task, he is a nasty little creep.
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:09pm
DifferentPerspective

To be fair, with Spanish Women sometimes it’s a bit hard to tell

*Heartwarming* account of the new Miss Spain, heading off the Miss Universe competition.

Another example of the male patriarchy doing anything they can to keep women out of the top spots.
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July 15, 2018 9:47am
lastmanstanding

On the subject of land seizures.

In 1962 the Government seized my grandmothers property at 41 Fleet St Eden Terrace. They did so under the Public Works Act supposedly for a motorway.
They paid her less than the then government valuation on the grounds that the value had decreased because she couldnt sell the land to anyone else.

Several years later the motorway as built some considerable distance from her property. My famil then found out there had never been any intention to build the motorway over or near her property the seizure was a land grab to rezone sell and use the profits to offset the motorway costs.

Several years later the government sold the land for commercial development the Council having kindly rezoned the property.

So much of no land seizures in NZ.
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July 15, 2018 9:51am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Class-action lawsuit, anyone?
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:00am
- ztev
  
  The then Auckland Harbour Board back in the 50s took a lot of Te Atatu harbour edge land for a proposed new port .
  never happened of course , but the land remained empty until AHB was abolished. Original owners took the new owner Waitakere City to court to claim it back, for dodgy reasons they failed. You should look it up
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:51am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes, and one family is still fighting for compensation (and fighting amongst themselves).
    
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    July 15, 2018 3:25pm
- MCos
  
  Those were the days of big government in New Zealand. Something like a third of the workforce worked for the government juggernaut and they pretty much did what they liked.
  Apart from a couple of single term Labour administrations National dominated the government from 1949-84 and nothing much changed.
  If the government wanted something they pretty much grabbed it!
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:07am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Chinese approach, that’s how you get infrastructure built cheaply.
    
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    July 15, 2018 9:37pm
DigNap15

Don’t forget you can buy single use plastic bags like Countdown give (or used to give) from Trademe.
In packs of from 100 to 500.
They are called T-Shirt Bags. (get the Jumbo ones)
(PS, I’m not selling them, but I did buy some for my own use round the house)
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July 15, 2018 9:56am
- KiWombat
  
  Thanks DigNap.
  
  I’ve been using these for years to store coal. I get a truckload of coal delivered and then put 2 shovels full into these bags and stack them outside the house. Keeps the coal dry (ish) and provides just the right amount to chuck into the wetback ! Also keeps storage of coal cleaner as you only handle it the first time, thereafter parcels are clean and so is the house !
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:54am
- hullkiwi
  
  what, as opposed to buying single use:
  
  – branded kitchen tidy bags, from said supermarket; or
  – Auckland City waste disposal bags to put weekly household rubbish in, which is collected from the curb side (which in Rodney cost between $2,25 and $2,50)?
  
  The whole campaign against “single use plastic bags” is ill conceived virtue signalling.
  
  I have no issue about discussing the household waste issue, but please will the campaigners please address the issues rather than the symptoms?
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:33pm
holysheet

Faecal Recognition
The worlds first feminist user ID program based entirely on smell.
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July 15, 2018 10:00am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Like “scratch and sniff”?
  How would the ID program work?
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:17am
  - DJ Ward
    
    The Labour Party got young volunteers and ran a small trial.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:39pm
DifferentPerspective

More attempts by the hard-left to muddy the waters on Goff’s free speech goof

Predictably, the SpinOff has given Otago’s Geddis a platform to come out with the usual mix of lies and sqwawky fake news assertions to muddy what is a fairly simple legal question regarding Goff’s ability to censor. Geddis clearly is peddling the standard libtard lies about Southern and Molyneux’s views mixed in with the usual pseudo-intellectual babble of the modern Uni prof (those that can do ….)

I can only presume that this is the SpinOff’s attempt at “balance” – they really have no fucking idea.

It looks like the SpinOff is going ‘balls to the wall” to try to push for an end to free speech given the editorial tone they’re pursuing at the moment.

What a tawdry little virtual rag it’s becoming – I think they’d be better of just assuming the working name “Pravda” and be done with any pretence of journalistic integrity.
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July 15, 2018 10:16am
- brett68
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/102373596/contentsharing-agreement-between-rnz-and-the-spinoff-muddies-public-radio-waters
  
  The Spinoff is the youth wing of RNZ
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:28am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Brett,
    
    You don’t have to worry about the relationship between RNZ and the SpinOff mudding the waters.
    
    You only have to listen to RNZ itself to realise any semblance of independence and integrity was flushed away last year.
    
    For instance on Friday, some of us debated the item on Morning Report (which was only an intro piece for the Focus on Politics broadcast at 6.45pm that evening) on the government’s policy on emissions reduction through converting NZ’s vehicle fleet to electric vehicles. Most of us realised the piece at 7.40am on Friday was not giving the whole story.
    
    Well the Focus on Politics item (15minutes long) was just an appalling propaganda piece for the CoL. What it did highlight was how the CoL have not thought through the issues and how the Greens want all Kiwis to live in cities and ride public transport. As for the rest of the country, they don’t care.
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/focusonpolitics/audio/2018653534/documents-show-government-reluctance-on-ev-pledge-focus-on-politics-13-july-2018
    
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    July 15, 2018 3:47pm
- Inandout
  
  SpurtOff.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:36am
- MCos
  
  I find all these earnest pro and con articles are becoming just a little tiresome. Everyone seems to be starting with an conclusion and working their way back.
  This article at least doesn’t take itself seriously
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/14-07-2018/what-did-the-free-speech-protestors-actually-have-to-say/
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:44am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Considering that his views would align with ‘supporter’ DPF on what Auckland Live can and cant do , suggests you dont have the mental age to read it.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:45am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    That made perfect sense ztev (inside your own head alone). Thanks for playing – even if you did kind of prove my point in the process.
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:51pm
- The Heat
  
  “If you think there’s an easy answer on the whole Lauren Southern/Stefan Molyneux saga, law professor Andrew Geddis reckons you probably haven’t thought about it hard enough”
  
  Ah, the patronising left.
  
  You either believe in free speech, or you do not.
  
  Many great thinkers have thought about it, long and hard, like Socrates, for example. In summary, it doesn’t matter if some groups, minority or otherwise, are offended as a result of someones speech. It is irrelevant. There will always be people taking offense, but their offense does not take precedence. Hence, free speech.
  
  “They certainly wouldn’t be welcome at any dinner party I might hold.”
  
  Ohhhhhh……bet they’re really suffering FOMO as a result.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:51am
- itstricky
  
  lies
  
  You mean opinions?
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:18pm
Inandout

Look at the Google picks for Trump at the top of page compared with Obama when their name is typed in. Trump’s personal appearance has many boxes but Obama has none. Google unbiased?
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July 15, 2018 10:32am
- MCos
  
  It’s that bugger Soros again
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:46am
  - Inandout
    
    That old crustacean will be gone this time next year.
    
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    July 15, 2018 10:52am
- itstricky
  
  Que?
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:22pm
RF

Almost spat my coffee over my breakfast table this morning. Listening to two MSM airheads discussing the political roundup for the week.

They agreed that National sat on its hands for the last 9 years and did nothing for Nurses, Teachers, Police etc…

“Maybe it was because of a bloody earthquake that drained billions from our coffers.”

How quickly these idiots forget.

Sweet cheeks should get down on his knees every night and pray that there is not another disaster as his money cupboard is bare.
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July 15, 2018 10:49am
- Inandout
  
  I have the radio on a music station but even then mention of Trump seems to creep in. It is a network station so they are probably instructed to lampoon him regularly.
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:55am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Can someone please direct snowflake Inandout to a safe space?
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:05am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Sadly I had the radio on when that cock-womble of utter stupidity Jack Tame was on and he was banging on about “crossing during the day to get the latest on the Trump protests in London”!
    
    I mean why? Do they do live crosses when Obama has a shit? It’s at the same level of intellectual value as the anti-democratic, anti-decency, anti-capitalism communist protesters.
    
    Still, it proves my point that whenever I’m unsure what the “right” side is of any issue – I find out what Jack Tame believes and take the opposite view.
    
    The man is such an utter wanker, he spent 5 minutes telling what he clearly thought was a hilarious story about being in Manhatten on holiday, seeing Rupert Murdoch taking his dog for a walk and then following to see what Murdoch would do if the dog took a shit! I can’t think of anything that more perfectly sums up Jack Tame than that – his idea of current affairs is dog shit!
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:11am
    - freethinker
      
      Turds of a feather **********************
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:44am
    - itstricky
      
      I can’t think of anything that more perfectly sums up Jack Tame than that – his idea of current affairs is dog shit!
      
      I betcha he knows what countries make up the UK, though.
      
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      July 15, 2018 11:53am
    - Inandout
      
      He lives with that blonde chap, whatever his name is.
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:12pm
- Justitia
  
  Shane Jones has the “booty” is his hip pocket, look no further. A $3 billion electioneering slush fund. And then there was the $2.8 billion bribe to students. No wonder the nurses are rebelling. That’s nearly $6 billion pissed up against the porcelain. How much did the Christchurch quake cost the government?
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:14am
  - RF
    
    But but but… with that amount of dosh think of the porn activities that Shane can revile in.
    
    He would die and go to heaven with a permanent smile on his dial.
    
    Looks as if the South Island will miss out on his largesse because of its puritanical upbringing.
    
    When porn is discussed down there they automatically think its pawn.
    
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    July 15, 2018 11:33am
  - Paulus
    
    Has it been identified which seat in Northland that Jones will buy at the next election to keep NZ First on board as they will not get over 5% anyway and would be toast without the billions Jones is spending there.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:18pm
    - Justitia
      
      I believe it’s Northland itself, Whangerei is just too hard.
      
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      July 15, 2018 2:11pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Northland will be too hard also. Its too diverse.
        
        Unless Maori change roll, they are all Tai Tokarau (Witless Kelvin’s seat). The rest of the seat (North Cape to Wellsford) is in need of regional development, but Labour and the Greens will screw up Jones chances with the cancellation of the SH1 expressway extensions for a start.
        
        Winnie the Poo’s obsessions of North Port and the railway line will go nowhere, because Northland needs long term strategic leadership and investment plans. The chances of getting that from Indiana and Peters throwing $3billion are practically nil.
        
        So, the chances of Bones winning an electorate are nil also. Besides other than the beltway conversatoriate, the media and a few of his Cuzzy Bros, Indiana’s recognition factor in Northland is not good and despite what the media says, his association with Winnie the Poo doesn’t help either.
        
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        July 15, 2018 4:03pm
- Piniwi
  
  @RF remember it was Lenin who said “a lie repeated enough will become the truth” which is why it has been relentlessly repeated as the answer to so many questions directed at the COL. For the majority it can never evolve into the truth and is as false today as the first time it was uttered. The problems of outrages wage claims made by the public sector are as a direct result of this lie firstly and secondly because of Labour raising expectations so high to counter the falsity they have been preaching. It stems from the union slogan prominently displayed in any workplaces where the stronger union still retain a foothold. “A you getting your fair share?” Naturally it has a negative result on the sheeple who survive by just doing enough to while never considering if they are in fact “doing their fair share?”
  As we have seen nurses are now considered qualified via a theoretical path and not as before or even to the same degree of skill set to get a degree. Far too much learning time is wasted on so called “cultural” content as one example quoted by a trainee. We were given one native word to study for 2 hours in the library and then write an essay on. Bet that will help with somebodies healing. Raising the obvious question if they are in fact they are adequately rewarded for the reduced levels of competence they now achieve? Note the equal sized stumbling block is “too much” work so they argue to have even more doing less at even higher pay rates.
  Labour are simply having to suck this up after creating such a massive problem while we watch them try desperately to set a level of increase to stop this wage snowball do it’s logical thing. The best is yet to come.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:06pm
thedavincimode

Gosh, the liebour gummint has canned the mental health/Police program that would have allowed mental health workers to attend Police crisis call-outs.

They must be spending the money on cochlear implants … er, maybe winter heating … er … nurses pay rises .. oh no, of course … student bribes. Yes, that’s it, student bribes.
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July 15, 2018 11:06am
- Piniwi
  
  Funny thedavincimode when we recall this another Fool Factor (unintended consequence) from the previous term on the treasury benches. H1 closed all the funny farms and turned the inmates out to be cared for by the community. Now they are tying massive amounts of police time as they are having to round them up instead of chasing criminals. Funny too that this revelation come the same week as they extend further funding of $4.5 million to Red Radio for more native content? Why are we still paying for a native TV channel and still wasting more money on such folly?
  It is easier to understand why so many living on hand outs struggle to cover their essential needs when we see the COL doing the same on a much bigger scale. After whinging for 9 years about health spending and promising to put it at the top of the list for funding. Makes us wonder what else is suffering because of their poor distribution skills as they struggle to satisfy all those secret promises?
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:24pm
Monique Watson

What do you call a fish without eyes.
A Fsh
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July 15, 2018 11:20am
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Gaza lives! (May their tormentors burn in Hell)

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/07/14/gaza-lives-may-their-tormenters-burn-in-hell/
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July 15, 2018 11:21am
- Morrissey
  
  One supporter of mass murder has registered with us. Shame on you, you inhuman piece of trash.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:38am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Fuck off terrorist hugging cunt..
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:28pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Is everything alright? You don’t seem your usual happy self.
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:12pm
      - Morrissey
        
        He’s simply bewildered. Don’t worry about the poor fellow.
        
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        July 15, 2018 1:54pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Nah, haven’t killed a commie bastard or a isis raghead for a while so I’m having withdrawal symptoms…. fuck where are my claymores and my 50 browning. Need a head shot fix…. got to kill … napalm …. nuke the fuckers …..
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        July 15, 2018 5:04pm
    - RF
      
      What’s Goofy done now ?
      
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      July 15, 2018 3:26pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    You’re talking to the Hamas leader, I presume.
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:10pm
- Nermal
  
  Funnier than Monty Python
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:18pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Moron, you’re not a fit or competent judge of what’s funny.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

What the hell are gender intelligence consultants?

Seems Labour needs them.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105432129/labour-brings-in-gender-intelligence-consultants
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July 15, 2018 11:24am
- thedavincimode
  
  Perhaps they should ease their way into this and just start off with intelligence consultants.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:31am
- Manolo
  
  A mere euphemism for minions, cara Maggy. Una follia!
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:32am
- waikatogirl
  
  “The Labour Party is polishing its image once again, with what it is calling a “brand check-up”.
  
  The party has brought in Double Denim – a Wellington-based consultancy that claims it “can turn online buzz into real-world results” to shake up its image.
  
  The company was behind the Green party’s election marketing strategy – “Great Greens” – which had to be dumped after the resignation of Metiria Turei. And it also worked on the campaign to elect Wellington mayor Justin Lester.
  
  The firm markets itself as a “gender intelligence” consultancy. “Understanding, celebrating and engaging women sits at the core of our skill and motivation,” its website tells potential customers.”
  
  The COL must be worried about their message not resonating with the greater community. Or, in Cindy’s words, we need to bring more voters around to our way of thinking.
  The Left have always found it easy to spend other peoples money!
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:02pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If a title contains the words “science,” “studies,” or intelligence” you can bet that there will be nothing of the sort.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:12pm
Southern Raider

Just saw on front page of Herald that Iwi want to install some Maori statute on Bastion Point and it will be higher than the Statue of Liberty

What a bloody eye sore and the city will be a joke

To make it worse the Council has given them $1M to start the design and feasibility
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July 15, 2018 11:27am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If the statue is made from concrete, ceramics, glass, iron or other metals, would that not constitute “cultural appropriation” by the iwi?
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:09pm
- KevOB
  
  This proposed supersized statue of a Maori deity is out of place in NZ. It will be particularly offensive to Aucklands Island Christian community.
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:28pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    A deity?
    I thought we had the separation of Church and State in this country? (If the iwi want to fund it themselves on their own private property, then that would be a different matter.)
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:58pm
Fletch

The headline says it all –

‘Free Speech Is Dead’ – Police in Khan’s London BAN Pro-Trump Rally at U.S. Embassy

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/14/police-khans-london-ban-pro-trump-rally-u-s-embassy/

Free speech is dead indeed in Britain.
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July 15, 2018 11:33am
- itstricky
  
  Or perhaps all protests are not created equal:
  
  Scotland Yard said it was imposing restrictions “in order to prevent serious disorder and disruption to Londoners” following violence seen at a previous Free Tommy Robinson protest last month.
  Read more
  
  Tommy Robinson supporters perform Nazi salutes at violent protest
  Ring of steel built near US embassy to keep protests away from Trump
  Where are the UK protests against Donald Trump taking place?
  
  His supporters threw metal barriers, bottles and other objects at police officers, injuring five of them. Nine people were arrested.
  
  Some pro-Robinson protesters were seen performing Nazi salutes, while others stormed and vandalised a sightseeing bus.
  
  “We police hundreds of public events and demonstrations in central London every year and we always facilitate peaceful protest,” said Chief Superintendent Elaine Van-Orden of London’s Metropolitan Police. “We have such serious concerns about this event on Saturday that we have made the decision to impose conditions under the Public Order Act.
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  Police are also restricting the movements of a Unite Against Fascism march opposing the pro-Robinson rally in Parliament Street, to ensure the two groups do not clash and to “prevent intimidation”.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:00pm
  - UpandComer
    
    I guarantee every person giving a salute or engaging in violence works for the police.
    
    The UK police are the pedophile police.
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:16pm
Fletch

LOL, Republicans call the Democrats bluff.

Many Democrats have called for ICE to be abolished, and three liberal members of Congress co-sponsored legislation that would do just that. After the GOP leadership made it clear they would allow a vote on it, those three Dems said they’d vote against their own bill, and said Republicans allowing a vote on the bill were engaging in a political “stunt.”

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/07/14/lol-vox-points-out-what-dems-are-doing-after-finally-getting-a-chance-to-vote-on-a-democrat-sponsored-immigration-bill/

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568170/house-democrats-abolish-ice-bill-jayapal-pocan-immigration-congress

Yeh, and this is also being reported by Vox, hardly some right-wing site.
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July 15, 2018 11:36am
- Morrissey
  
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  ICE is pretty much the equivalent of the Gestapo. It’s agents are feared and hated by everyone with a conscience. Of course it must be abolished and banned forever, just like the Geheime Staastspolizei was abolished and banned forever.
  
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  July 15, 2018 11:41am
  - Jack5
    
    And you, Morrissey, are disappointment. Did you stop compiling your list of infamous Gropers when Trudeau’s name came up?
    
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    July 15, 2018 12:28pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Still compiling it, my friend. Just been a bit busy lately. Keep the old eyes peeled!
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:58pm
      - Jack5
        
        But you haven’t added Trudeau yet, have you Morrissey.
        
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        July 15, 2018 2:13pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Jack5:
        
        Morrissey will be right on it – he has to write a piece on the Labour Party sex camp groper first!
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:09pm
  - Inandout
    
    Any police action in the US is described by leftists as nazi. They would rather see lawlessness and rampant child abuse.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:17pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Any police action in the US is described by leftists as nazi.
      
      No, you’re completely wrong. It’s police gangsterism that’s wrong. You know, shooting unarmed people, or strangling them to death. That sort of thing. You don’t think people should protest against that sort of abuse?
      
      They would rather see lawlessness and rampant child abuse.
      
      There certainly is lawlessness—by the police forces right across the United States. As for rampant child abuse, what party does Judge Roy Moore belong to?
      
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      July 15, 2018 1:51pm
DJ Ward

Based on what I saw in regards to the Women’s Marches in the US, the comments, the speeches.

I think Goff should have a good idea what hate speech sounds like and how it’s important that we tolerate it by discussing it, analysing it, and mocking it where required.

Not allowing the speech takes from all of us the right to discuss it, analyse it, and mock it where required.

Goff has attacked every citizens right to democracy by doing this. Those that disagree with, or support the content of the speech.
Shame, that someone who should know better has stooped to such a low rent act.
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July 15, 2018 12:11pm
Jack5

The murky world of soccer administration in Croatia, World Cup finalist:

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/scotland/why-scotland-fans-are-wrong-to-look-to-croatia-as-a-model-to-follow-1-4767975
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July 15, 2018 12:27pm
Jack5

Had rare look at the Sunday morning chatter shows of the two main TV channels.

Six women guests on the panels in total, and no male guests. ? Have males been blackballed, or worse, deballed?
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July 15, 2018 12:31pm
- MCos
  
  What’s your point, Jack?
  Are you grizzling because the panelists happened to be female?
  What about if they’d all been male? Would that have bothered you?
  I’d have thought the important thing was whether they could string some sensible thoughts together on the subjects at hand.
  
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  July 15, 2018 12:54pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ‘I’d have thought the important thing was whether they could string some sensible thoughts together on the subjects at hand.’
    
    MCos, if only it were so. But the Social Justice Movement that now controls media and education and government doesn’t want equal opportunities but a *reversal* of what they consider the grave injustices of the past.
    
    I.e. don’t just ensure people have equal opportunities and rights, but make sure groups historically wronged are now advantaged. Even if they haven’t been wronged at all themselves.
    
    That’s how identity politics works.
    
    Where are you on the intersectionality counter, MCos? Do you even have the right to write an opinion?
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:21pm
  - Inandout
    
    Typical leftist retort to any questioning of The Agenda.
    
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    July 15, 2018 1:21pm
  - Jack5
    
    If they had been all male, the Lefties and feminazis would have been yelling about old white men.
    
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    July 15, 2018 2:08pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I’d like to see a mix of gender and political persuasion.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:38pm
lifesgood

Remember when the Rugby world cup was in Auckland and the maoris kicked up a stink because they weren’t included? Anyone would think they invented rugby . Anyway,the ever moronic Auckland council rolled over and gave them a million dollars, or thereabouts, to build a tent that looked vaguely like a waka. The maori said it would be used frequently for other events. They filled it with tawdry tattooists for the world cup, most people didn’t venture in and those who did were very disappointed. The million bucks worth of RATEPAYERS MONEY was last seen lying damaged and neglected up at Orakei marae. It has never used again. I’m betting that a similar thing will happen if they get funding for a statue. It will never be built and the money will never be returned.
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July 15, 2018 12:47pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Turn it into a ‘blimp’?
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:22pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Exactly. Iwi will force ratepayers to front up, they will have full discretion over what it looks like, they will be granted a non notified resource consent and then it will look like the statue equivalent on a p house in 5 years
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:12pm
UpandComer

Viktoria Sokolova 14 was raped and killed in Wolverhampton last week by three Kurdish Muslims all members of the same family. She was raped to death with instruments.

Police haven’t arrested the men and are instead guarding them.

Feminists, nothing. The Je Suis Muslims. Nothing.

Britain is a void. A vacuum. A nothing. No past. No future.

How I despise the worthless English male. Snaggle toothed feckless retards and Dhimmi nonce passive aggressive lisping whisperers. I hope the muslims kill more of you. Fucking mongs. Get out of New Zealand. At least the PIs just kill people who rape them. I’m glad Trump madethe Queen wait. I’ll have no truck with a descendent from Mohammad. She can be the Muslims queen.

Just kidding all my refernces to violence ce are just metaphorical. A jihad of the soul.

How I hate to see the UK dying. Ireland next. Then Australia. Then us.
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July 15, 2018 12:53pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Great Britain sent its best, and brightest, and bravest of to fight wars. What genetics did they have left.
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:18pm
- Inandout
  
  Mooselims can’t have sex until they marry their child brides, so these Turds look outside the cult for sexual emergency outlets. The UK police in general are scared of the cult but as the UK descends into the abyss I would expect some kickback from the soccer fan mob. Many are unemployed and have a ton of time to think up ways and means.
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:27pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I plan to shuffle off the mortal coil somewhere between Ireland and Australia, bit sorry for my children and grandies who will have to endure the shit stench for a generation or two longer.
  
  Not bad being a mid range boomer in spite of the terrible knees; something I can do something about, creeping islamism not so much
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:48pm
- fernglas
  
  The only reports I can see about this is that a 16 and 17 year old were arrested in April. Perhaps you could enlighten us?
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:52pm
RF

There is a life sized statue of a man that stands in the Avon River down in the Christchurch.

It cost the Council rate payers a small fortune to have it built but it has its uses. It traps floating leaves that would otherwise clog up the river.
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July 15, 2018 12:56pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  A maori statue will clog up money that could be better spent elsewhere
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:50pm
  - KevOB
    
    It’s more than a statue and will require regulatory permission.
    
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    July 15, 2018 2:33pm
    - sooty
      
      Gives the ducks somewhere to shit as well.
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:02pm
Monique Watson

I’m not flyin’ without wine. Check out Ryanair. Fuckers gave out some limp-wristed vouchers to make up for a death drop. Lame as.
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July 15, 2018 1:10pm
DJ Ward

From a discussion on who invented fire.

It was decided that women invented the club. Men got fire from a mountain.

Cavewoman beat caveman with club to go get fire from mountain. Caveman replies “UGH!”.
Cavewoman promises sex to go get fire from mountain. Caveman stands for the first time and runs to the mountain.
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July 15, 2018 1:41pm
Manolo

The fight against fake news:
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/397055-white-house-we-cancelled-boltons-interview-with-cnn-after-jim-acosta

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Saturday that the White House decided to cancel an interview between CNN and national security adviser John Bolton after a CNN reporter “disrespected” President Trump earlier this week.
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July 15, 2018 1:43pm
- Morrissey
  
  Is Sarah Sanders the most odious woman in the U.S.? I know she has some competition from the likes of Betsy De Vos and Dianne Feinstein, but surely Huckabee Sanders is the worst of the worst.
  
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  July 15, 2018 1:56pm
  - Jack5
    
    Morrissey, No, she’s not.
    
    Sarah Elizabeth Huckabee Sanders has a scent like a fragrant rose compared with Hillary.
    
    Perhaps some open-minded rose grower will name a fragrant specimen after Sanders, to go along with these:
    
    https://themysteriousworld.com/intensely-fragrant-roses-in-the-world/
    
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    July 15, 2018 2:12pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Isn’t Morris dancer the most obnoxious, biased, marxist commenter on Kiwiblog?
      And arguably the biggest bigot as well.
      
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      July 15, 2018 4:32pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Quite likely Don, but stupidboy and ztev give him a run for his money.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:15pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Nah, just fucking opinionated and epitomises moronic. Likes to feel he is a SJW but is all talk and no action. If seriously confronted by a threat would hide behind his grandmothers’ petticoat. If he died, he would be rejected by the maggots…
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:12pm
      - Morrissey
        
        “Marxist”? You are clueless. Please do some reading, some time. You’re embarrassingly ignorant.
        
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        July 16, 2018 10:19am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    “Is Sarah Sanders the most odious woman in the U.S.?”
    Maybe but unless you have personally met all of the 127 million women in the US I can’t see how you could come up with this conclusion.
    Never mind don’t let some gross exaggeration get in the way of a good diatribe.
    
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    July 15, 2018 2:22pm
  - KevOB
    
    Some of the lefty women in the US political pantheon possibly use eau de MeSH.
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:14pm
Jack5

How identity politics is hurting science research:

https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-identity-politics-harming-sciences-15826.html
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July 15, 2018 2:07pm
- Jack5
  
  An example to show how far in the diversity rot has reached:
  
  Oxford University extended the time on its undergraduate math and computer science exams last year, hoping to increase the number of female high-scorers; results were modest. Expect test-time extensions nevertheless to spread to the U.S.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Thank goodness some old gals got their degrees long before identity politics turned up on campus.
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/361848/uni-s-first-woman-graduate-and-pioneer-celebrates-milestone
  
  And for the dairy-consuming carnivores amongst us… her words of wisdom:
  I’ve always eaten red meat, drank full milk, eaten butter and cream and all those sorts of things. And at a later age I drank whiskey, so that’s what kept me going!
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    A grand lady and from the days when Massey was known internationally for its prowess in the agricultural sciences, and they are what enabled these islands to become and survive as a First World country.
    
    Am I correct in thinking that since then sociologists and academics from other social sciences and indigenous studies have become dominant at Massey?
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:21pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Massey still contains its Ag. College roots at P.N.
      By the time I got there in the early 70s, it had morphed into a decent young university with its Vet school, Food technology, Ag & Hort, and Extra-Mural Departments , along with the usual Science & Arts Depts.
      
      But P.N. is a ghastly place and I decamped to the big city for Post-grad study.
      
      Massey expanded in the 1990s into its Auckland & Wellington campuses. I think they hold most of the Arts and soft “science” folks nowadays.
      http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-massey/history-of-massey-university/1993—2009/1993—2009_home.cfm
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:01pm
    - realityczech
      
      “what enabled these islands to become and survive as a First World country.”
      
      No Jacksie. According to our dear leaders that was due to people who studied public policy, or worked in developing phone apps.
      
      Eating is so third world and is dying out entirely in the developed countries. There is no future in farming. Apparently.
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:07pm
- macdee
  
  Not forgetting Enid Hills http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-massey/news/article.cfm?mnarticle_uuid=CDA716C8-96BF-57FE-A911-45BA8A3A27E2
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:01pm
Manolo

Miss Ardern, the accidental PM, will happily welcome him here:
https://nypost.com/2018/07/14/assange-could-soon-be-evicted-from-london-embassy/

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange may soon be evicted from the London embassy that has sheltered him for the last six years.
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July 15, 2018 2:14pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Assange is an Aussie. Let them have him. ?
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:30pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Waikatogirl:
    
    Some group – Free Julian Assange NZ – has launched a petition:
    
    That the House of Representatives urge the Government to provide Julian Assange with permanent political asylum in New Zealand, including a guarantee of safe passage from the United Kingdom to New Zealand.
    
    Interestingly, neither that media release (about the petition), nor the only other one published on the Scoop website, seems to indicate who is behind this group.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:04pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, Assange, Trump, Farage etc are bound in unity,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/28/trump-assange-bannon-farage-bound-together-in-unholy-alliance
  
  waikatogirl, the US President would most likely have him for services rendered.
  
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  July 15, 2018 2:34pm
  - Manolo
    
    Would you be surprised if Labour’s Ardern offers him a place in NZ?
    
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    July 15, 2018 2:52pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      More likely that he will go to a country where the head of government loudly proclaims “I love Wikileaks”.
      
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      July 15, 2018 3:02pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      Queenstown is popular with the fleeing international criminal set it appears. Assange and CDC can start a support group
      
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      July 15, 2018 3:26pm
- RF
  
  Currently Ardern is our Claytons PM.
  
  I can see Angry taking over when Ardern succumbs to post natal depression.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:20pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Great, he has the charisma of a dead hedgehog, so the Nats will be back in a flash.
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:18pm
mandk

A great and lovely lady has died.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/105497047/cheese-crusader-biddy-fraserdavies-who-fought-bureaucrats-to-use-raw-milk-dies

Rest in peace, Biddy.
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July 15, 2018 2:59pm
- Swifty
  
  Farewell Biddy.
  
  NZ needs more like you.
  
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  July 15, 2018 4:15pm
  - Jack5
    
    I’m no lover of bureaucracy, but unpasteurised milk can be pretty devastating for young people and folk with compromised immune systems.
    
    For adults you could say “let consumer beware”, but then taxpayers would pick up the bill through the State health system.
    
    Milk pasteurisation is like chlorination of water when it comes to the trade off between individual rights on one hand, and public safety and health costs on the other hand. Not on the scale of freedom-restricting laws such as making it illegal to shout “fire!” in a movie theatre, but a similar principle.
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:27pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      The raw milk enthusiasts would not generally be considered the type of folks to be popular on Kiwiblog.
      
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      July 15, 2018 4:40pm
  - wiseowl
    
    Biddy .A heroine.
    There are many small businesses in the primary sector that are being screwed by regulation.
    The corporates force them out of business aided by government rules and regulations.
    MNZGA
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:27pm
DJ Ward

I wait in anticipation for the worlds only democracy to step in and Save Assange, nows your chance for the greater good.
I hear that Israel supports all points of view and treats people, even if they don’t like them, with dignity and respect. Asylum for Assange in Israel, what could be more fitting.

It’s such a good idea in fact that Netandyahoo could get a Nobel Prize so they get another IQ point and appear smarter.

They could then do an Israels got Talent show with Netandyahoo and Assange as Judges. Top points given to contestants that can steal secrets on Iran, or create fake passports for entry into NZ, etc

Maybe the Israelis could out trump Trump for the peace prize.
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July 15, 2018 3:03pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  I think Putin and Trump are meeting tomorrow aren’t they? Where to put their pal Assange might be on the agenda.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:26pm
  - realityczech
    
    milky, I remember when you lefties adored Assange. That all changed when he revealed what a dirty murderous lying corrupt war monger Hillary was and revealed Obama’s war crimes. All done for Israel according to the leaked information.
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:16pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I agree that it must be confusing for some Keas that Wikileaks has consistently damaged US security interests but then forged a cosy relationship with Putin and Trump. Seems out of character – unless the Wikileaks founder is, hmmm, you try to describe him…
      
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      July 15, 2018 4:32pm
      - realityczech
        
        milky, thanks for admitting that your view is about political tribalism with no regard for the truth.
        
        Decent people are more interested in the revelations than in who he is mates with.
        
        Factoid: Obama took more legal action against journalists and whistle blowers than any other president in US history. He also passed the most extreme laws against freedom.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:31pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Oh Kea, you do try hard. What makes you think I want to defend the record of Obama, Clinton or any of those rotten US politicians. Just because Trump has taken things to new depths doesn’t retrospectively make his predecessors lovely.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:46pm
      - realityczech
        
        milky, Trump has raised the circumstances of the USA’s most vulnerable people to a remarkable degree given the short time, you filthy little freedom hating commie.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:50pm
Fletch

This is the man that Democrats are upset that Trump has nominated for the Supreme Court –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS5gPEKHi4
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July 15, 2018 3:14pm
BananaLlama

Fucking severe flooding out where I am everyone out dropping Hay and pushing their animals to high ground. Had a bunch of Ewes drop their lambs right in the worst of it as per usual I hope everyone else is doing okay.
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July 15, 2018 3:24pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Light flooding and should get worse, North Waikato. Not to unusual, yet.
  
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  July 15, 2018 3:49pm
- GoVege
  
  You dudes are fooking legends, BananaLlama.
  Hope our dairy farmers watching their beloved lady cows going to get the chop are coping too.
  We love you all. 🙂 🙂
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:10pm
  - realityczech
    
    Hey Tofu Tits you should turn me in to the authorities for taking the piss out of your absurd beliefs. Apparently its illegal to oppose your nature hating anti human cult of lies.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/105389474/could-this-be-new-zealands-worst-troll-kiwi-youtuber-could-be-exposed-by-a-california-lawsuit
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:14pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Kea’s just jealous his trolling doesn’t get that kind of publicity.
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:00pm
    - GoVege
      
      Hey beef balls/ Ralkycheek….I believe in free speech, you can say what you like.
      And I rarely eat tofu.
      Only when it is perfectly cooked in a delicious Thai vege dish.
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:42pm
  - GoVege
    
    Four downticks….what did I say wrong??
    I genuinely admire our hard-working farmers getting up at all hours of the night to tend to their moocows.
    I stayed on a farm once as a kid and will never forget how kind the family were.
    And I believe it is possible to produce milk without causing undue distress to animals.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:35pm
    - GoVege
      
      I know that’s you downticking me, Reallycheeky!
      Eat some nice healthy veges and you’ll feel better. 🙂
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:53pm
      - realityczech
        
        I often don’t down tick you. I let my words do the talking 😉
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:56pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    We just had a beefy shot by the home kill guys.
    Yummy.
    The farm I’m on has 2 large and one smaller blocks of native forests. Cave Weta, Pigeons, Morpork, Kauri, large native eels, etc etc. we also have occasional wild deer, pigs, goats, good populations of peacocks, turkeys, hares, rabbits, pheasants, ducks, etc etc.
    We also have possums that are controlled to lowish numbers using .22 lead disprin and plucked of thier fur while still warm. It’s only pocket money really but collectively us farmers earn more just doing that than any economic gains of vegetarianism.
    So despite the diary farm doing its thing many more things can be taking place on a piece of land. Far more enviromentaly and ecosystem friendly than portrayed. Far more than in a concrete jungle.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:19pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    I just run Ewes and fatten Lambs.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:35pm
starboard

Dave Cull is scum.

http://1law4all.kiwi.nz/2018/07/15/enemies-of-democracy/
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July 15, 2018 4:01pm
- MrTips
  
  No surprise there. Dunedin is besotted with all things Ngai Tahu, with both the Uni and the Council doing anything to push them. Why? Because there is an axis-of-PC btw the 3 of them to push Dunedin up as the major financial, education and tourism center of the Sth Island. A perfect mix – savvy grievance industry dealers combined with guilt ridden Scots.
  
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  July 15, 2018 4:09pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Is that One Law for All clique still a thing? I though they had renamed themselves after Governor Hobson’s imaginary pledge.
  
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  July 15, 2018 4:37pm
  - starboard
    
    Fuck off mongmike.. So you think it’s OK with what Cull did. Doesn’t surprise me you greasy wee twerp.
    
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    July 15, 2018 4:46pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Didn’t bother to read that screed. Perhaps you could summarise it for me.
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Perhaps you could summarise it for me.”
        
        I can: You’re a fuckwit.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:15pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I doubt that even those morons needed to go to the trouble of writing a column to show that I’m a fuckwit, Kea.
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:33pm
Longknives

Fuck I’m glad Serena Williams got beaten.
Is that sourface cow the most ungracious loser ever? Her post-match press conference was her usual display (making excuses/refusing to acknowledge her opponent) etc etc
Congratulations Petra Kvitova- Serena Williams can go back to locking herself in her Panic room when the drug testers come calling..
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July 15, 2018 5:11pm
- realityczech
  
  Maybe you could protest since you are so triggered.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/tennis/3206362/Protest-against-Israeli-tennis-player
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:17pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Longknives never reads about top athletes without want to denigrate them. Jealousy, I guess.
    If one of his hate-figures were too gracious in defeat he would dismiss it as loser talk.
    In a parallel universe, meanwhile, an alternate Longknives is praising Michael Venus for another top doubles performance. Great game this morning.
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:37pm
    - Longknives
      
      Ha Ha In a ‘parallel universe’ your hero Serena Williams is taking the same drug tests the other players have to and not getting exemptions for this,that and everything..
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:26pm
Nostradamus

Cold weather: If you’re shivering today, spare a thought for these cows

Australia’s east coast is shivering through a cold snap this weekend, with cooler temperatures set to remain in some cities into next week. … Here are just some of the photos from our ABC Weather Obsessed Facebook group to show how cold it has been.

– Cows were covered in frost in NSW [check this photo out – the cows look miserable]
– And in the NT, it got so cold a bird bath iced over
– But that had nothing on Kellys Plains, where a whole creek froze
– This horse in Queensland struggled through frosty grass
– While green plants turned white
– Launceston was covered in a blanket of fog
– And some flowers were sprinkled with ice
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July 15, 2018 5:16pm
- realityczech
  
  That’s climate change. It is caused by Trump and white people.
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:27pm
- nasska
  
  This Global Warming ©️ thing isn’t turning out how we expected! 🙂
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:30pm
  - realityczech
    
    nasska, It’s climate change now you old fossil.
    
    When ever the weather changes it is a sign white liberal democratic technological society is killing mother earth.
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:34pm
    - nasska
      
      Apologies Nostra…..ever since I started receiving National Super I’ve been having these senior moments! 🙂
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:38pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        ever since I started receiving National Super I’ve been having these senior moments!
        
        I’m sure you’ll cope when you receive a ‘Change of Circumstances’ form asking for confirmation of your relationship status and living situation. (See
        Peters’ supersized super – the missing letters if you get stuck!)
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:42pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Got the heating turned up too high nasska?! ?
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:00pm
realityczech

Trump receives a hero’s welcome in the UK

Trump supporters turn out in London a day after protests
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July 15, 2018 5:25pm
Nostradamus

The UK version of David Benson-Pope: British MP Andrew Griffiths forced to quit after sending ‘violent’ sexts to barmaid

A married Conservative minister has quit after bombarded two barmaids with 2,000 texts making sexual demands.
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Describing himself as "evil", the 47-year-old outlined degrading sex acts, demanding explicit pictures and videos and said he'd rather be 'licking naughty girls' instead of "running the country".
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On Friday he said he was "deeply shamed", assured the public he was seeking help and apologised to Theresa May for his behaviour after sending two constituents messages about violent sado-masochism, reports Daily Mail. Renowned for creating Women to Win to boost female MPs, the prime minister’s former adviser unleashed a torrent of messages almost daily for three weeks.

Click on the link above if you’d like to read some of the messages that this creep sent. I can’t decide if Teresa May is likely to see this as a welcome distraction from her current party leadership and Brexit problems.
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July 15, 2018 5:33pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Reminds me of those Little Britain sketches where the MP faces the press outside his country mansion to admit all sorts of ludicrous deviancies while the adoring wife and children look on…
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:39pm
  - sooty
    
    What is it with Labour?
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:52pm
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha Sir Norman Fry!
    Poor Sir Norman was always getting into unfortunate situations- Offering young men rides home and his pants would inexplicably fall down etc etc
    “As far as I am concerned that is the end of the matter”
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:24pm
- realityczech
  
  Not my cup of tea, but who am I to judge. Looks like a bit of innocent shenanigans and the woman was clearly up for it. Looks like she is up for anything for $$$ actually.
  
  Sorry not in the same league as the epidemic of lefties molesting vulnerable kiddies.
  
  Keep crawling the net Nosty you are bound to find something of substance eventually.
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:43pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Kea:
    
    The issue isn’t whether you approve of BDSM between consenting adults. The issue is that a politician – another one in the long line of them – has been caught out:
    
    His apology:
    
    I am deeply ashamed at my behaviour which has caused untold distress to my wife and family, to whom I owe everything, and deep embarrassment to the Prime Minister and the Government I am so proud to serve.
    
    I tendered my resignation as Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Small Business on Friday night. Following discussions today with the Chief Whip I have referred myself to the Conservative Party’s Code of Conduct procedures. I entirely accept that pending this investigation it is right the whip is withdrawn. I wish to apologise to my constituency association and to the people of Burton I am honoured to represent.
    
    I do not seek to excuse my behaviour and will be seeking professional help to ensure it never happens again. In time I hope to earn the forgiveness of all those who put their trust in me and that I have let down so terribly.
    
    He has a dark sense of humour – referring to whips twice in his apology about sending kinky BDSM sexts!
    
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    July 15, 2018 5:48pm
    - realityczech
      
      He does sound like a right perv. Always room for a man with his skills in the Labour Party.
      
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      July 15, 2018 5:54pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Oh no! If only all those deviant Conservative MPs had realised that all they needed to do was cross the floor and join Labour, how much heartache would have been spared.
        Have you ever thought of flying to the UK to set up Kea Political Consultancy PLC?
        
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        July 15, 2018 5:58pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”like a right perv”…..
        
        But isn’t this a case of “know your deviancy”? BDSM has traditionally been the perversion of choice within the Conservative set.
        
        The success of Madam Lash’s House of Pain in leafy Tauranga has always been attributed to priests & boarding school matrons. 🙂
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:03pm
      - realityczech
        
        The truth is that these sorts of perverts are over represented among those with power, influence and money. Regardless of what group they joined.
        
        I don’t trust anyone who has devoted their lives to having control over others.
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:10pm
      - nasska
        
        There’s a smattering of truth in that comment RC.
        
        But while Conservatives generally get their jollies being whipped by Matron & having hot wax dripped onto their nuts Labour aficionadoes are a different species.
        
        Sodomy, cross dressing & torturing small animals are more their forte. 🙂
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:31pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Sodomy, cross dressing & torturing small animals are more their forte
        
        You missed Panty Slut Boy (oh, maybe not, he fits into your cross-dressing category) and Dover golden shower Samuels (who apparently used hotel floors to create liquid artworks). And let’s not forget about swiss balls and hotel room porn!
        
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        July 15, 2018 6:38pm
lifesgood

Anyone missing Jacinda? No, me neither,
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July 15, 2018 5:33pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  And yet she appears to be living rent-free in your head.
  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mr-personality/201107/what-makes-your-obsession-healthy-or-unhealthy
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:40pm
- sooty
  
  Or the fish idiot!
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:41pm
- realityczech
  
  No, but dad seems to be doing a ok job of running the country while she is tended to by Gayford.
  
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  July 15, 2018 5:45pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Who?
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Grief,
we can’t even get rid unwanted people smugglers

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12088485
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July 15, 2018 6:09pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From Maggy’s link:
  
  New Zealand is already concerned about Australia’s immigration policy and Little said the new problem appeared to relate to changes to the Migration Act in late 2014 under which non-citizens are deported if sentenced to more than 12 months for crimes or if considered “a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community”. Little described it as “changed immigration laws that sees them deporting New Zealanders on, I would say, flimsy grounds and now managing extraditees in ways they haven’t been dealt with before”.
  
  Andrew Little’s choice of wording wasn’t the best.
  
  In one sentence he insults Australia and sounds like a crim-cuddler. If Australia don’t want a POS living in their community, and the POS is a non-citizen, then they kick him out (subject to well-established case law with respect to administrative decisions).
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:29pm
  - realityczech
    
    Why the fuck do these people think the Aussies owe the entire world a favour, from gang member Kiwis, to ISIS supporters? It seriously does my head in!
    
    Saudi Arabia has tons of money and spare land. Send the Muslims there… and the Kiwi thugs too if they like.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:32pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes, and we’ve got 50,000 of them here, that could be flown there as well.
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:19pm
  - Jack5
    
    Little is a gutless twat when it comes to criminals. If his attempt to axe “three stikes” is an indication, he’ll end up letting this people smuggler stay in the country.
    
    If Australia were to put up a reward, perhaps some international bounty hunter would deliver the people smuggler to Australia.
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:50pm
starboard

Bawhahaha a 50 metre high maori stature proposed for Bastion Point..Akl ratepayers coughing up for it, Goff on tv spanking over it but will take a few years of negotiations and meetings between council and mouldy before its finalised. Cha ching $$$$$, no wonder there is no money for infrastructure.
Check out http://www.rortgonascrewyouhard.co.nz
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July 15, 2018 6:28pm
rightoverlabour

Fuck I hope they don’t run out of Virgins…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44834480

Nothing like terrorists being martyred en masse….
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July 15, 2018 6:28pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Giant statue of Papatūānuku the Earth Mother proposed for Bastion Point
  
  The structure of Papatūānuku the Earth Mother, proposed by Ngāti Whātua Ōrākei and part-funded by Auckland Council, would stand 30 to 50 metres tall on the historic headland of Takaparawhau/Bastion Point.
  
  Typical – the iwi come up with an idea but want someone else to (partly) pay for it. What does “part-funded” mean – iwi 10% everyone else 90%?
  
  Auckland Council has approved $1 million in its 10-year budget for initial design and development of the proposed structure or “pou” – $100,000 for design in the current financial year and a further $900,000 for initial development next year.
  
  No, it means everyone else pays 100% for several years of consultation, and then iwi 10% everyone else 90%.
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:33pm
  - starboard
    
    The arrogance, fuckwittery and brown-nosing of mouldy by Auckland City Council is astounding.
    You want the statue fullas? Blow the cobwebs and gorse outta ya fat wallets and cough up.
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:40pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Meanwhile memorials to the evil white man are left to fall into the sea.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12089365
    
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    July 15, 2018 6:46pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      From Stars And Stripes’ link:
      
      A council spokeswoman said teams had been working to save the monument, but they had been restricted to using so-called “soft” techniques to reinforce the land because the erosion did not threaten private property or a road. These involved efforts to regenerate the dune systems with sand “push-ups” and the planting of native plants to hold the soil together.
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      If the erosion directly threatened the road or private property, council would investigate using a “hard” structure, such as a rock-timber wall to halt it, she said.
      
      Translation: they had been restricted = they decided.
      
      Yet another example of local government refusing to accept responsibility for poor decision-making.
      
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      July 15, 2018 6:52pm
      - KevinH
        
        Cook was a remarkable man, from a humble background he went on to become one of the greatest navigators of all time and because of that we as New Zealanders have a responsibility to acknowledge and preserve his achievements.
        There is no question that Cook’s endeavours dramatically changed the course of history positively in the South Pacific including New Zealand and Australia,and despite his reputation for being a strict authoritian figure in so far as his crew was concerned, he was a humanitarium who managed the initial contact with primitive people with skill and acumen, so much so that inevitably it lead to his premature death.
        
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        July 15, 2018 7:21pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    These same fuckers chopped down the pine at one tree hill.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:37pm
Fletch

I see Phil Goff on TV news again tonight misrepresenting the views of Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux. Better watch out Phil, or you’ll be in court for a very different reason!
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July 15, 2018 6:30pm
- starboard
  
  The mans a pathetic handwringing oaf..reminds me of mikenmoldy.
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:34pm
realityczech

New Wellington bus operator Tranzit has begun introducing fully-electric double-deckers.

Introduced a few days ago and just passed one broken down on the main highway already 🙂

Guess that will teach them not to ride bikes in 80 knot gales and horizontal rain 20km each way to work.
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July 15, 2018 6:38pm
nasska

My friend surprised me for my birthday with a book called ‘Road-Kill Recipes’. I did find some road-kill the other day so I cooked it according to one recipe & it was delicious.

I’m just not sure what I should do with the gay lycra or the bicycle.
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July 15, 2018 6:56pm
- realityczech
  
  The trick is to just injure them badly first so they bleed out naturally. Otherwise they tend to be stringy and have to be used as dog tucker.
  
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  July 15, 2018 6:59pm
  - RF
    
    A length of rope so the body can be strung up to a lamp post for a couple of days should do the trick. A thick coating of pepper will keep the flies away.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:26pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  I cooked it according to one recipe & it was delicious
  
  Even GoVege would agree it makes a nice change from tofu!
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:01pm
  - realityczech
    
    You need to add a few vegetables like chicken and fish. Turtle or dolphin is good too if you can get it.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:11pm
    - realityczech
      
      ☝ Pro Tip: If you want to add dolphin you need to get a little one that is milk fed.
      
      They are not that hard to catch. You just run the prop over the mother a couple of times and then gaff the little one when it comes up to grab it’s last breath.
      
      bon appétit
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:26pm
    - RF
      
      Perhaps young Kiwi breasts will add additional flavour. Hectors dolphins are difficult to find these days unless you have a dolphin farm.
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:30pm
      - realityczech
        
        Hectors are flighty little bastards and are best netted. Just find an area where they are riding the surf break and put your net out at right angles to the beach.
        
        Kiwi are gamey, but make good bait for Giant Kokopu.
        
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        July 15, 2018 7:36pm
- Fletch
  
  Have you seen this? 😆
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-al0xSFJo
  
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  July 15, 2018 8:47pm
  - realityczech
    
    Very good 🙂
    
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    July 15, 2018 8:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Tanzania undertakes prison reform
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44834191

* inmates should grow their own food in prison fields.
*Make the prisoners work, let them make bricks day and night.
*If they show laziness, kick them
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July 15, 2018 7:09pm
- realityczech
  
  All good and well Maggy but the authorities are often worse than the criminals in those places. Though good on them for trying and maybe that is what their circumstances require.
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:13pm
- DigNap15
  
  A great guy.
  Sounds like we should get him here to advise Andrew Little on how to run prisons correctly.
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:15pm
- Nostradamus
  
  He also called for conjugal visits to be stopped.
  
  He’s found an in-house solution:
  
  Mr Magufuli said the underemployment of inmates led to drug use and homosexuality in jails.
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:20pm
  - realityczech
    
    “homosexuality in jails”
    
    Tanzania’s president is cracking down on LGBTQ rights. He says cows would approve.
    
    In a strikingly homophobic rant last week, Magufuli slammed foreign NGOs that campaign for gay rights and Tanzanian LGBTQ activists, saying, “Those who teach such things do not like us, brothers. They brought us drugs and homosexual practices that even cows disapprove of,” according to the AFP.
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:29pm
nasska

Reading Maggy’s link took me to another article…..concerning vasectomy.

……”Michael is one of the few African men to have had a vasectomy, but he’s ashamed. He tells the BBC how cultural beliefs in Africa make it impossible to talk about the procedure”……

Given that he lives amongst primitives it is probably not surprising.

……”I would be very angry if anyone was to find out. There’s so much stigma and I don’t want people to judge me or get into my personal life,” the 34-year-old says’……

But in my own case we had two girls in eleven months. The wife had a bad time on the high oestrogen pills of the time & after our son was born a few years later I decided to have the “snip”. Even getting the okay from the GP wasn’t straight forward but in the end the cut was made.

I never bothered much about who knew but the comments afterwards were interesting. According to some fuckwits I’d handed in my man card since I was now shooting blanks.

If anything our sex life was better but I wonder if the paranoia in Africa that we read about still persists in NZ’s dickhead classes.
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July 15, 2018 7:37pm
- realityczech
  
  In my view if more women took it up the bum we could really stick it to big pharma and the industrial medical complex.
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:41pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Why would they take that pleasure away from you and your wellington soy boys?
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:44pm
  - nasska
    
    ……” if more women took it up the bum”…..
    
    That’s the Catholic response to the church’s ban on birth control. As in the quotation of our departed friend Griff:
    
    I’ve laid out the towels
    
    I’ve emptied my bowels
    
    I’m ready for romance. 🙂
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:47pm
    - realityczech
      
      ✞ nasska you will love this one promise you 🙂
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1gnug6HJ0
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:53pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      Griff hangs out at YourNZ now:
      
      I am a hard Atheist
      Mostly, as with agw, I only react to others comments .
      On KB there was heaps of religious nuts who tried to force their religion or used it for justification of their views so I often countered.
      On here [YourNZ] it seldom comes up so I dont push the issue .
      
      Griff then went all in:
      
      Explaining Mystery is why we invented science.
      Religion stops us asking why it just says goddidit.
      It is not the answer that counts it is asking the right questions.
      The more we know the more we know what we dont know.
      
      What can we do to entice Griff back to Kiwiblog for polite discussion about climate change and religion?
      
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      July 15, 2018 7:59pm
      - nasska
        
        It wasn’t hard for me to find common ground with Griff on the subject of religion Nostra. He was harder on the Godwhacks, moralists & know-alls than I am.
        
        I wish he’d laid off Maggy but other than that I miss the bastard! 🙂
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        I miss chatting with him about the weather.
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        “What can we do to entice Griff back to Kiwiblog for polite discussion about climate change and religion?”
        
        I felt like Griff and I were particularly close as he reached out to me often. I could try talking with him, but you we all know how emotional he can be at times 🙂
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:20pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Realityczech:
        
        I could try talking with him
        
        Perhaps if you were to pop over to YourNZ and tell him we’re having a climate change party at Kiwiblog, with lots of fossil fuel burning, and that he’s invited?
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:25pm
      - realityczech
        
        He is wasted over there stoned out of his mind babbling incoherent doomsday prophecies on the worlds most insipid blog.
        
        I think he felt more grounded and accepted here on KB.
        
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        July 15, 2018 8:30pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  I never bothered much about who knew
  
  I thought news travels quickly in Eketahuna? (Beacon lighters on hill tops can be effective…)
  
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  July 15, 2018 7:46pm
  - nasska
    
    We weren’t in Eke at the time Nostra but not that far away.
    
    Yet you’re not kidding about the efficacy of the bush telegraph. Secrets are hard to keep in rural NZ. 🙂
    
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    July 15, 2018 7:55pm
Monique Watson

Where is David Clark? I spent more days working in a bar at The Octagon than that guy has spent as Health Minister.
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July 15, 2018 8:35pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Maybe is at a bar in the Octagon.
  Recruiting fur, Labour youth training / parties.
  
  I’m sure he’s extremely confused at this point in time. Those damn unions were supposed to be on our side. Cindy, what say thee Oracle baby “give me a bottle, Prepping for bedtime.”
  
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  July 15, 2018 10:43pm
Jack5

Family in Perth multiple killing may be from NZ:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/western-australia/homicide-squad-investigates-early-morning-ellenbrook-death-20180715-p4zrko.html
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July 15, 2018 9:08pm
Hugh Pavletich

THE DEAD CENTRE OF CHRISTCHURCH …

… The Bureaucrats Bog … Who cares ? … Check general comments tone and low volume …

Rallying cry to support retailers struggling through lean winter months | Liz McDonald | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/105436381/rallying-cry-to-support-retailers-struggling-through-lean-winter-months

Christchurch leaders are urging residents to get out of their homes and support CBD retailers through the lean winter months.

With a gloomy start to winter and no imminent international events on the calendar, some central city businesses may struggle.

It is understood some landlords have lowered retail tenants’ winter rents to help them stay afloat during the traditionally quiet June and July. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Earlier The Press article …

… A few further lessons from Greater Christchurch … (The GREATS are the smaller and therefore functional Selwyn and Waimakariri Councils) …

Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago. … read more via hyperlink above …

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame

… Mid – 2012 article by Hugh Pavletich …

Christchurch: The Way Forward | Hugh Pavletich | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1206/S00251/christchurch-the-way-forward.htm
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July 15, 2018 9:28pm
Jack5

A blow for Americans who want tougher control on gun ownership.

It’s a legal victory for Cody Wilson, the American right-wing anarchist who has promoted home 3D-printed basic pistols, and has marketed a basic CNC machine tool, the $US1675 Ghost Gunner, which facilitates home manufacture of assault rifles.

The New York Times reports that Wilson has won a court action allowing him to distribute manuals for 3D printing firearms.

He sued the American Government in 2015 after the State Department ordered him to take the manuals off the internet because they violated export laws. A settlement means that his manuals are now free to be distributed in any form.

Meanwhile, Wilson has upgraded the Ghost Gunner. It reportedly now enables home made Glock- compatible pistols, as well as the critical component for home-made assault rifles.

3D printing and the Internet are going to make firearms control harder for authorities in many Western countries.
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July 16, 2018 12:58am
- DigNap15
  
  And there have been several cases lately where private civilians with guns stopped violent criminals doing their deed by shooting them.
  This saves a whole lot of police time, court time, and prison space.
  Americans will never give up their guns.
  
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  July 16, 2018 7:25am
fernglas

“A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. They isolate themselves socially. They live pretentiously. They are loud and ostentatious.”

Source of the quote, anyone?
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July 16, 2018 2:14am
- nasska
  
  The Ugly American by William J. Lederer.
  
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  July 16, 2018 7:36am
EAD_TWO

Well done Africa/France in beating tiny Croatia – as the French coach said – “we are proud to represent Africa”

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1018299143167586304
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July 16, 2018 5:29am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Some billionaire with a sense of humour should buy a squad of the world’s best White players, pay for them to have Zimbabwean citizenship, so we can have an all-White African team playing an all-Black European one, in the Clownworld Cup, 2022.
  
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  July 16, 2018 6:21am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    https://mobile.twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/1018543591906476035
    
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    July 16, 2018 6:39am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, I cant bear to watch France or The Netherlands play Football.
  
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  July 16, 2018 7:23am
Manolo

The crooked hag needs Bill by her side:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillary-starts-speech-im-so-tired-i-can-barely-stand/
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