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Shaun the Sheep

Sir Don McKinnon wants the USA to play nicely with NATO and the U.N. and keep on paying the bills.
Money is important but solidarity is importanter.

Good luck with that McKinnon.
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July 11, 2018 8:04am
- realityczech
  
  Lefties and kids. Again.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse_by_UN_peacekeepers
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:07am
- ztev
  
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  What bills does NATO incur ? It’s not like a restaurant meal where they apportion the final price, but more like maccas where you order and pay individually
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:21am
  - realityczech
    
    “where you order and pay individually”
    
    zit, what is the going rate for turning up late, supporting the wrong side, “monitoring” ethnic cleansing, and fiddling the kids?
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:28am
  - Harkman
    
    Who pays to have thousands of soldiers stationed in Germany? Who pays for the joint training exercises? Have a guess but it ain’t the locals (at least not fully).
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:41am
    - ztev
      
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      Germany pays for most of the hosting costs
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:42am
      - VicParking
        
        Ztev Link Please.
        My sources say US $8b Germany $1b
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:15am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        And which NATO members aside from the USA were meeting their agreed GDP allocation on NATO defence expenditure? European free loaders.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:57am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Actually ztev, it is like a restaurant meal. It’s the meal where lefty tight arses eat up large and then fuck off quickly after chipping in $15 but no tip, after claiming they only had an entrée. The stupid mug left standing there then picks up most of the bill.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:50am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gates-criticizes-nato-how-much-does-us-pay/
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:50am
- igm
  
  Give the Muslim-loving UN nothing. Seems they are no better than any other lefties when it comes to paedophilia and worthlessness.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:22am
  - realityczech
    
    The resident lefties are working tirelessly to try and normalise child abuse before one of their own appears in Court again.
    
    How NATO Covers-up Child Abuse in Afghanistan and Helps the Taliban
    
    This is an appalling, grotesque – but true – story.
    
    As Donald Trump unveils a new military strategy in Afghanistan, here is a story that will have you twisting with rage but understanding why NATO is failing in that country…
    
    The Taliban are, in general, a disgusting lot, but so are many of the people on NATO’s side in Afghanistan. Not only are they disgusting – more of that later – but some of them have also stolen hundreds of billions of dollars of western aid in a long-series of swindles, thefts and con jobs.
    
    http://declanhill.com/nato-covers-child-abuse-afghanistan-helps-taliban/
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:37am
    - yossarian
      
      Even Alexander the Great said “you never own and Afghan, you only rent him.”
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:08am
    - kowtow
      
      If we are truly “multicultural” we must respect their “cultural” practices.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:25am
    - Twinkletoes
      
      The young children who are kept as sex slaves are known as the “bacha (sp) boys – groomed for this process from a very young age. It is the norm in these areas as of course girls must be kept pure until marriage.
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:40pm
- softail 1450
  
  S T S, Is that bludging old bastard mckinnon still on a public tit somewhere?
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:36am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12086886
    
    Of course.
    As an ex-parliamentarian he is in clover for life.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:07am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Yes – hard not to argue with old stale pale male Don’s position.
  
  It really would be far better for everyone ~~except the US taxpayer~~ if the US continued to subsidise the rest of the world. I mean, if you can do it on the dole, whereby the parasite generation of Labour voters feel perfectly OK about never meeting their responsibilities under the social contract because they can scab off the ever diminishing proportion who are net tax payers – then why shouldn’t nations be able to scab a free ride off of the individual US taxpayers too?
  
  I wonder why support for Trump keeps on growing and his approval ratings keep on climbing. It’s almost as if the average person in the US street has had enough of having everyone else’s hands in their pockets.
  
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  July 11, 2018 11:14am
- Jack5
  
  I wonder whether McKinnon spoke up when Helen Clark was axing the fighting arm of New Zealand’s Air Force?
  
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  July 11, 2018 3:54pm
duggledog

Watched that Laura Southern documentary last night about white SA farmers.

It was very badly made but she has certainly got balls going over there and walking right into the lion’s den on a couple of occasions.

Didn’t see it as extreme right wing, just a young woman from a highly privileged country finding out some home truths.

It’s pretty clear whites are slowly getting wiped out over there. I imagine newsrooms the world over sum this process up in four words ‘they had it coming’.

I view white SA farmers as refugees and would welcome many more of them here.
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July 11, 2018 8:06am
- Longknives
  
  NZ should lead the World and take in the South African Farmers…
  Could you imagine Golriz’s sour,twisted little face??
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:20am
  - RalphT
    
    “Could you imagine Golriz’s sour,twisted little face”
    
    Worth taking them in just for that.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:31am
    - RF
      
      She is just a racist snake oil salesperson.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:23am
  - Harkman
    
    I think Australia has already offered visas to some. Amazing how Labour/Greens don’t want to lead the world on that one. Labour/Greens are racists.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:45am
  - Ross12
    
    As she noted in the doco Longknives the West Australians raised “opening the doors” to them about 4-5 months ago. I’m not sure if anything has happened.
    BTW. duggledog –I cannot agree with your “very badly made” comment. I doubt it was a big budget operation but I thought it was quite well produced.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:49am
  - Paulus
    
    Believe Australia has already offered them a country in which to live and it has been turned down by the SA Farmers quite annoyed at the suggestion.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:16am
  - dime
    
    the only problem with that is that they are saffas 🙂
    
    but yeah, when shit goes down hill, bring em in.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:48am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      There are already a tonne of Zimbabwean and Saffas spread through NZ rural areas. Great work ethic, definitely a gain to NZ.
      
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      July 11, 2018 4:00pm
      - Viking2
        
        Saffa’s with a work ethic?
        yep , where’s my house girl, where’s my digging men oh wait while I get the clipboard so I can tick off all the rules.
        
        Not my cuppa tea.
        
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        July 11, 2018 8:54pm
  - backster
    
    And Don McKinnon could do something worthwhile and get his fellow distinguished petitioners to front the situation to the useless UN.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:59am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    LK, next time you see James Shaw speaking in parliament, watch GG behind him.
    She practically melts with adoration.
    It’s kind of unhealthy.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:36am
    - dime
      
      too bad he’s not man enough to horse her
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:32pm
- realityczech
  
  Not a bad effort for a young woman. I wish I was half that smart and bold at her age.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:22am
  - igm
    
    Would like to see weasel Goff in an interview with her!
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:29am
    - realityczech
      
      igm, She would eat him alive.
      
      I want to see Lauren in the ring with the mule toothed communist.
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:54am
      - VicParking
        
        He could spit at her then throw paint over her. He’s good at that
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:17am
  - KevOB
    
    An ideological driven mouthpiece is not smart–its dumb as it has no freedom of expression or mind.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:30am
- waikatogirl
  
  I agree about the white SA farmers coming here as worthy refugees. If the reports are correct in Southern’s film, whites rights are being removed and turned away from SA hospital care, etc.
  
  They won’t be accepted here of course being both white, and farmers will rule them out under our current regime.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:23am
  - igm
    
    To get in here they would need to stick their arses in the air five times daily, guarantee never to work, be prepared to take everything they can for nothing, and do all in their power to overrun and take control of our tiny nation.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:31am
    - realityczech
      
      “stick their arses in the air five times daily”
      
      As opposed to :
      Orthodox, Modern Orthodox and Sefardic strands of Judaism regard halakha (the collective body of religious laws for Jews) as requiring Jewish men to say tefillot (“prayers”) three times daily and four times daily on the Sabbath and most Jewish holidays, and five times on Yom Kippur.
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:56am
      - dime
        
        as opposed to doing none of that religious stuff..
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:49am
      - realityczech
        
        dime gets it.
        
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        July 11, 2018 10:15am
- kowtow
  
  A silent, ignored genocide.
  
  Compare and contrast to the coverage that Muslims are given ie Burma, Gaza, Syria.
  
  White , non Muslims ; the MSM has little time for you. Why buy their product?
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:25am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Not ignored on Kiwiblog.
    I’mean quite happy for New Zealand to accept more refugees. I suspect, however, that relatively few of those farmers would, be granted refugee status under the UNHCR criteria, and that most of them could easily emigrate if they chose.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:43am
    - dime
      
      “and that most of them could easily emigrate if they chose.”
      
      true that! sell the farm, get top dollar, organise a transfer of said money and hop a plane. easy as bro
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:50am
      - backster
        
        Except that the rand has been devalued to such an extent that they can’t afford to..Watch the doco.
        
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        July 11, 2018 10:04am
      - dime
        
        backster – i should learn how to use the sarcasm font eh
        
        pretty sure getting currency out of that shit hole isnt easy.
        
        gotta feel for the poor bastards. the left dont care, they think the white farmers bought this on themselves etc
        
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        July 11, 2018 10:52am
      - Komata
        
        Dime
        As well, with ‘compulsory’, financially un-compensated rural acqusition already happening (and due to come into the towns in the very near future) the Afrikaaners are getting nothing for their properties, so can’t leave even if they want to (most of them do). As in Zim, those who ARE making money are, of course the local (supposedly squeaky-clean) AFRICAN MP’s, individuals with no qualms about profiting off both their fellows and any white who owns land they covet….
        
        The ‘African Way’ has finally come to the ‘Cape. it cn only be downhill from here..
        
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        July 11, 2018 12:22pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Duggledog, right overall but I don’t go for the leftist “highly privileged country” story. Living in a reasonably safe place shouldn’t be a ‘privilege’.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:46am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Listening to this interview with some Aussie bint, it’s really hard to find anything to be offended about what Southern says – I mean she’s calm, logical, clear about her reasons and she makes good points.
  
  On the other hand, I did try putting my pussy march hat on and started making a high pitched screeching noise while feeling really, really sorry for myself and my miserable life – and all of a sudden I started to feel deeply offended about Southern’s very existence.
  
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  July 11, 2018 11:17am
Huevon

Reading about new Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh brings back memories of the Clinton impeachment saga. Those were good times.

Looks like a solid choice by Pres Trump. He seems pretty moderate to me. He thinks the law should mean what it says. How outrageous! Good strong Irish name too.
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July 11, 2018 8:07am
- ztev
  
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  Means what it says ? Like the 14th amendment which says the states can’t write laws that don’t give equal protections to the people. Exactly the reason equal marriage was allowed, as of course the US Constitution doesn’t otherwise mention marriage being only man and a women
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:25am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    You have proved Huevon’s point. Equal protection means black, white, male, female are treated the same. It does not mean each person is entitled to laws tailored to his own preferences.
    
    If the city council regulates what colours you can paint your house and someone is upset because he really likes lime green with purple spots, he is not being denied equal protection of the laws. He is, like many of us, simply a victim of a law that is rather silly but not unconstitutional.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:25am
- holysheet
  
  Small steps in his quest to drain the putrid swamp left behind by the lefties.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:26am
  - ztev
    
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    He was part of the swamp. Many appointed jobs in Washington previously, he is just another alligator
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:47am
    - KevOB
      
      Where do you go for teeth sharpening?
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    holycrap. “putrid”? You should talk
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:11am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Is there a point to that stupid comment?
      Or did you just have the urge to launch another gratuitous personal attack?
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:39am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You bring up an interesting point. Kavanaugh was one of the leaders in Starr’s investigation of President Clinton. Now he is strongly of the view that investigation, let alone prosecution of a sitting president is unconstitutional – which is why Trump selected him.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:47am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Unlike the current Mueller investigation, Starr’s original investigation into Whitewater was based on an actual crime.
    
    Whitewater was a fairly simple bank fraud. A pair of bank owners fraudulently used the bank’s deposits to buy up land in a real estate company that they also owned at unrealistic values. The bank went bankrupt as a result and was bailed out by the Fed. The owners were later convicted of the fraud.
    
    Also involved in the scheme were the Clinton’s who were minor shareholders in the real estate deal, and most importantly the lawyer for the dealings was one HRC. It was never able to be proven the Bill Clinton knew about the fraudulent aspects of the deal, however it was suspected that Hillary as the deals lawyer was involved in the conspiracy to defraud.
    
    In order to prove her involvement Starr’s team needed good evidence. They had pin-pointed the times and dates that meetings to plan the fraud had taken place, and they wanted to show that Hillary attended those meetings. So they subpoena’d the billing records for the law firm she was a partner in – the Rose Hill Law partnership. But they found that not only had the computer systems at RHLP been purged and wiped, but that the obligatory manual backup records were physically missing and could not be found.
    
    To cut this short, the bank owners were prosecuted and found guilty, and imprisoned. HRC was not indicted.
    
    A year or so later when the statute of limitations had expired on the bank fraud case, a complete set of the RHLP records turned up in an unused room in the West wing of the Whitehouse. Examination of a second set found at Vince Foster’s apartment showed that HRC had attended (or at least billed for) the critical conspiracy meetings.
    
    So more or less proven that HRC was complicit in and benefited from bank fraud, bUt as usual, got away with it. And the pattern of deleting and removing data under subpoena does recur in her case, does it not ?
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:46am
    - stephieboy
      
      Ed Snack, it would be helpful if you could cite your copy and paste to check, among other things, its credibility!
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:51am
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy ,it just proves that your intelligence level is very questionable ,most people on this blog would remember the points that ED Snack makes quite clearly as I do ,but you without Google are lost aren’t you?
        
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        July 11, 2018 12:57pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Yes, let’s relitigate Whitewater
      Way to miss the point, which is that Trump has taken care to pick a jurist who previously believed (and enthusiastically participated) in investigatng and prosecuting presidents but no longer thinks that is constitutional.
      This would explain why some anti-abortion groups didn’t like this choice – seems insufficiently zealous. Trump doesn’t care about abortion and those other trigger causes – he wants judges he can rely on to vote away any prosecution of himself.
      
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      July 11, 2018 11:30am
- Harkman
  
  Had to laugh yesterday at how much of a conman Bernie Sanders is. He went on CNN and was rambling that Republicans in the House, Senate, and White House were all extreme right wingers and any nominee must be opposed. Erin Burnett then pointed out that it is likely Kavanaugh or Hardiman and that he voted for them only a decade earlier. When that came out it was completely stuffed, it wasn’t Republicans moving to the right, it is Sanders dragging Democrats further and further to the left. He couldn’t explain why he voted for the same guys then but not now.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:57am
  - dime
    
    does he still live in his parents basement?
    
    or has he somehow amassed 10 million+ dollars whilst earning 200k a year for a decade?
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:52am
    - stephieboy
      
      dime , appears to be another attempt at fiction by you?
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:52am
      - VicParking
        
        “$858,750 off book royalties alone in 2017”
        
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        July 11, 2018 11:47am
      - Harkman
        
        His wife robbed the University she was working for.
        
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        July 11, 2018 12:22pm
    - softail 1450
      
      Dime ,a couple of weeks after the sell out piece of dog shit endorsed Clinton, him and his thief wife purchased a beach house and two new cars ,,,what a dog of a man he is ,the stupid left fell in love with him because they detested Clinton and then the old prick sold them out.
      Imagine that old relic as the leader of the free world doddering all over the planet.
      
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      July 11, 2018 1:11pm
lastmanstanding

Some random questions.

If the Right decided to get a protest group together( not that they do) and threatened to cause mayhem at an event where Left speakers were speaking would the Police;

(a) Tell the event organisers to cancel the event because of the threat of violence.

(b) Use their powers to arrest any Right protesters who were impeding the Left attendees or speakers

Discuss
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July 11, 2018 8:09am
- kowtow
  
  Like this c#nt ?
  
  ‘A priest and former St Patrick’s College old boy has asked the Wellington school to reconsider holding an auction featuring high-powered semi-automatic weapons and military memorabilia adorned with Nazi insignia.
  
  Father Gerard Burns appealed to his old school after attending Tuesday’s blockade of the annual New Zealand Defence Industry Association forum at Westpac Stadium with about 300 other activists.’
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/97736339/st-pats-old-boy-and-catholic-priest-decries-weapons-auction-at-school-hall
  
  BTW that auction was cancelled after police/organiser “discussed” safety . Another win for a small group of intolerant leftists over the law abiding.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:32am
  - Colville
    
    This is the (previously) regular antique firearms auctions held in the hall by Ted Rogers.
    I have been to a bunch of these sales, typically 2 day events with 1500 lots of old and interesting stuff.
    If you want to buy a pair of matched percussion dueling pistols for $35,000 then this sale is your best bet in NZ.
    You might see 5 (?) military semi auto weapons out of the 1500 items and the rest is various sporting and military items from the last 200 years or so.
    But Ted threw in the towel as it wasnt feasible to hire security to keep the site safe from protesters while having a couple of hundred old crusty collectors (like my ole man) inside bidding on bits of interesting old shit.
    Its a pity. Ted ran a great sale and now the big auction houses get the estate sales of gun collections rather than it being done between people that all have known each other for many many years.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:26am
  - MrTips
    
    As a Catholic, it gives me no great pleasure, but in all honesty, Fr Burns needs to be laicised and booted out of the Marists. He is an absolute walking debacle and has the ridiculous liberation theology in his head. If he really wanted a noble cause, he could ask a lot of questions about the Marist Order and what they are doing about the current investigations of sexual abuse.
    
    Idiots like him are why the Church has gone down the horrible road it has in the last 40 years. The radicals, miscreants, liturgical Orcs and sexual perverts were given too much free rein.
    
    Its time to boot them out. Starting at the top.
    
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    July 11, 2018 1:49pm
Lee C

“The election of 2017 resulted in a bloodless coup d’etat formulated and lead by Winston Peters.”
Discuss.
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July 11, 2018 8:10am
- VicParking
  
  What you view Lee C??
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:39am
oldpark

Then there is the Claytons plastic refugee from Iran called Golrush or similar. Golrush is the flap jaw MP from the left of left NZs “Green” Party. The mouthpiece flap jaw pest says NZs purchase of New Planes is at odds with peace.
What a stupid bloody comment from an Iranian female who started her life in a country that sponsors terrorist attacks all over the world.

Wonder what type of stance or comment will come from her defacto boss Peters. After all it is his party that have ordered the Planes.Will Ron “skid” Mark give her the famous fingers once caught on film. Or will Peters suck up her comments. After all he needs their votes on the Waka jumping Legislation soon to be enacted,in his favour. Methinks Goldrush or similar from sicko “Greens” has got you there Mr Peters.
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July 11, 2018 8:13am
- Paulus
  
  We await shortly the replacement for the C130 aircraft who are to their retirement very shortly.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:18am
  - ztev
    
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    Most likely to be second hand models that Britain has surplus, which are however of the latest version but date to about 2001. Still young by the standards of these things
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:30am
    - softail 1450
      
      trev ,googling early trev?
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:31am
      - igm
        
        Trev must have misplaced his viagra again!
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:16am
    - srylands
      
      Great. I expected 6 of these. New.
      
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-17_Globemaster_III?wprov=sfla1
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:36am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        We won’t get Globemasters.
        
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        July 11, 2018 8:50am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        They’ve stopped making them.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:30am
      - dime
        
        my favourite large aeroplane by a mile. just awesome
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:53am
    - niggly
      
      “Most likely to be second hand models that Britain has surplus, which are however of the latest version but date to about 2001. Still young by the standards of these things”
      
      Would be interesting if that happens, the UK has around 5 surplus “basic J” models left in their inventory that are apparently worn out from extensive use in the Middle East (eg supporting the Iraq war etc), so they would be approaching 20 years old by the time NZ gets them hypothetically. Then they’d need quite a bit spent on them to refurbish them and even then they wouldn’t have too many years life left in them, so I would hope the Govt doesn’t purchase these as that would repeat the debacle that Labour did in the 2000’s by cancelling the then RNZAF 8x new C-130J-30 purchase in favor of upgrades to the existing 1960’s vintage H-model Hercules. NZ also requires the stretched J-30 model (just like the Aussies have) to handle more cargo (apparently the RAF will be keeping their stretched J30’s, if so, NZ may luck out on them).
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:25am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      ztev,
      
      That is a very specific assertion. Do you have specific information that this is the case?
      
      I presume the Brits are selling the C130’s because they have got enough A400M’s.
      
      Given your inside knowledge, can you also advise whether New Zealand will join up with Australia to add on two more Types 126 frigates to the existing contract that Australia is doing with BAE to replace the ANZAC’s in the early 2030’s. I would thought it was an ideal opportunity to do another ANZAC deal to the benefit of New Zealand’s industrial base.
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:08am
- RalphT
  
  oldpark, please spell the trougher’s name correctly; it is not Golrush but Goldrush.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:33am
  - ztev
    
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    Can we change another name to ‘ bridge to nowhere’ or as they say in blimey pier
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:51am
- Harkman
  
  And she wants our borders completely open to these Iranian terrorists.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:01am
  - Nermal
    
    I’ll believe the “open borders” activists are genuine when they leave their doors and windows open while they are at work
    
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    July 11, 2018 4:24pm
    - Harkman
      
      Ha classic! ? some of you guys crack me up.
      
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      July 11, 2018 5:12pm
Longknives

Shock, Horror! Drunken University Students like to have a laugh and take the mickey out of each other…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/105335570/otago-college-firstyear-nicknames-slammed-as-straightup-bullying

Speaking from experience Otago University was magnificent fun back in the 90s- Now it seems to have been completely taken over by Femnazis, Wowsers and Maori Activists..
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July 11, 2018 8:15am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Meanwhile….
  
  Folks in the NZUSA were fiddling with public money and their dicks.
  http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/how-a-sexual-harassment-scandal-brought-down-student-campaign-for-sexual-violence/
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:25am
- Colville
  
  The annual awards were held at Selwyn College – the oldest residential college in the city – with categories including “best rack”.
  …..
  
  Former student Monica Nelson was given a nickname as a first-year student in 2014 which turned out to be a coded reference to a body part.
  
  She was one of many given such nicknames and, like others, was not initially told what it meant.
  
  coded? I dont think you need Bletchly Park to break that code.
  
  The young lady that got the “coded’ award will look back on that with pride in her later years….
  
  I was just dissapointed there were no pictures!
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:27am
  - VicParking
    
    Monica took three places in a Queue
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:23am
- alex Masterley
  
  These people who whinge at the drop of a hat need to take a cup of concrete and harden up.
  I attended OU in the early ’80s when the OU legend was being forged. Great times. Now i fear for the place.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:03am
- Rich Prick
  
  You would think having the oldest ballet troop in NZ, Selwyn College would be cut some slack by the SJWs – blokes in dresses etc. In my day, we didn’t bother with codes though.
  
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  July 11, 2018 11:03am
holysheet

Twitfords wife called him at work.
“Honey, on your way home from work can you stop at Paknsave and get a loaf of bread? And if they have eggs, bring home a dozen?”
So he came home with a dozen loaves of bread.
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July 11, 2018 8:16am
- softail 1450
  
  holysheet ,He could hollow them out and turn them into kiwibuild houses.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:27am
- Lance
  
  Didn’t know he was a software writer?
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:03am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  The funniest part of that is the notion of any politician actually walking into a pak n save.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:40am
holysheet

Don’t worry about global warming or climate change. This is the really scary thing that will cause our demise.

http://www.newsweek.com/earth-magnetic-field-reversal-1001034?utm
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July 11, 2018 8:19am
- rangitoto
  
  Why? It’s happened many times before.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:14am
  - backster
    
    I understand the rate of reversal is now ten times what it was 50 years ago and accelerating. The North pole much faster than the South. The problem is that our weakening contracting magnetic shield allows much greater penetration of galactic cosmic rays. The effect is apparent in the near record amount of electricity (lightning) and also radiation levels. There are also much brighter and closer Aurora….This is only stuff I have read. It has happened before I think roughly every 2000 years but then there were not 9 billion people and the added complication is the dependency on Electricity.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:32am
Happychappy

Finally someone from MSM are asking the questions why has NZ First got all the money to spend when they have none to quell the dissent of those they promised to give more in exchange for their vote. The Coalition is in real trouble when Barry Soper starts questioning why Winston, Shane Jones and Ron Mark have plenty of money to splash around when there is more need for that money to be spent in other area’s, so interesting times ahead for the Coalition of Misfits and could this see the voter apply mòre pressure on Winston and NZ First’s future in NZ Politics.
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July 11, 2018 8:25am
- ztev
  
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  What an inane view Soper has about…..accounting or something. It’s not splashing around, planes won’t all arrive till 2022.
  The operational spending in health was $1 bill higher this year than last, and that is going to be every year, not some one offs
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:36am
  - thedavincimode
    
    ztev: sucking peters off since Sep 2017
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:54am
  - VicParking
    
    Ztev, accrual accounting has been around for 25 years in government. They have already hedged the currency, they will make progressive payments for the planes. They will need to start building the facilities now. The money is already being spent.
    Ztev have you been borrowing Stephie’s goat again
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:31am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Troll’s gotta eat….
      
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      July 11, 2018 4:04pm
igm

See MSM all on about Thai rescue and those who assisted. No mention of Israeli technology donated to make it possible. Just arseholes and I, as many, will be glad to see their demise, preferably with Fairfax Filth and APN at the forefront.
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July 11, 2018 8:27am
- ztev
  
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  What technology…
  Scuba gear has been around forever…anyway rightly so it was brave individuals who made it happen.
  When you go in a mini sub to find say the Titanic, that’s technology
  Even the Time of Israel just mentions brave rescuers.
  During our earthquake, we didn’t have ‘rescuers’ from Israel inside the red zone they were mossad, involved in an undercover operation
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:38am
  - Longknives
    
    “When you go in a mini sub to find say the Titanic, that’s technology”
    
    Wouldn’t have picked you as a fan Ztev but you are correct.
    Ballard and the US Navy finding the Titanic was an amazing achievement…
    God Bless America!!
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:45am
  - igm
    
    ztrev: Take a look at this you ignorant left-wing bludger.
    https://youtu.be/0hnkLnhJMYw
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:04am
  - Lance
    
    Ignoramus much
    No such thing as technical diving according to ztev
    
    What a plonker
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:06am
    - ztev
      
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      Look the Brits claimed they climbed Mt Everest first, as it was their ‘team’
      History records and everyone accepts it was the two individuals that did it as the team and the tech only get you part of the way
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:18am
- realityczech
  
  So you reckon they should list the race/culture/religion/country of every single person who assisted and the race/culture/religion/country of the people who made some of the stuff they used?
  
  Or is it just the Jew that should be mentioned?
  
  Israel contributes stuff all to tech when you consider the billions and billions and billions of dollars they take as “aid” each year. Way more than any “third world” shithole.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:46am
  - ztev
    
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    Is Trump going to tell Israel to pay it’s way like he tells NATO?
    That is an instance where literally the US pays the bills for stuff that Israel buys.
    
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    July 11, 2018 8:55am
    - realityczech
      
      Yes the religious zionist bigoted filth love to talk up Israel as being so advanced, when it is a purely parasitic nation sucking on the world like a tapeworm.
      
      Take away the support and let Israel support itself. That also means not spending trillions on wars to kill people extremist Jews hate. Which are pretty much all the wars the West is involved with. Every single one is for Israel.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:05am
      - Lance
        
        Oh excellent
        Another 15 daily rants by RCZ on how evil dem Jooz are.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:14am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, Israel doesn’t too badly recently propped up by the US to the tune of $38billion dollar military aid alone.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:16am
      - realityczech
        
        $38b is nothing compared to what is spent destroying countries zionist Jews don’t like. We are witnessing the biggest genocide in human history with the “war on terror”.
        
        It was one of many tricks the Jews pulled, convincing the West to adopt Jewish religious bigotry and hate as their own.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:42am
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, “genocide ” ???
        
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        July 11, 2018 11:07am
      - realityczech
        
        Obama dropped around 3 bombs an hour on Muslims for his entire term in office.
        
        You can give it another name if you want.
        
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        July 11, 2018 11:10am
- DJ Ward
  
  Israelis invented scuba diving? Wasn’t that the French?
  Wetsuits?
  Hoses?
  Fittings?
  Regulators?
  Gas bottles?
  
  If an Israeli invented 1 item then great contribution but “the” Israelis as a nation did not invent the technology. It’s a global effort of improvement. Just like most technology subjects.
  
  Stop making silly claims. The MSM is generally Pro Israeli in that you generally have to go outside of mainstream media to see news and reports on how evil, irrational, and inhumane the Jews of Israel really are. If that stuff was on MSM then you might be just be a little bit ashamed at who you blindly support.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:56am
  - Lance
    
    “The MSM is Pro Israel”
    …………………………………. bra ha ha ha ha ha
    
    What a sad little man
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:12am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Sorry if you expect them to do biased stories as they film soldiers shooting unarmed children posing no risk to them while the sun shines out of the soldiers arse.
      I suspect that even for MSM that would be difficult to film.
      PS laughing to yourself is a sign of mental health issue. There is plenty of well educated Jewish doctors that can help.
      
      You resorted to a shaming tactic rather than providing some counter argument. That’s “sad”. Not even a “little” argument. And childish, “boy” you need to grow up.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:37am
      - Lance
        
        You are trying to tell everyone here the MSM is pro-Israel.
        That is laughable and patently idiotic
        The MSM not only use negative terminology for anything associated with Israel, they grossly distort any story or just plain make shit up
        https://www.timesofisrael.com/bbc-regrets-headline-that-victimized-jerusalem-attackers/
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War_photographs_controversies
        
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        July 11, 2018 10:02am
      - DJ Ward
        
        Heh Lance so one nutter deserved to be shot. That’s something we can agree on. The other two were just to get closer to that 23:1 killing ratio?
        
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        July 11, 2018 8:44pm
  - kowtow
    
    Yeah right.
    
    ‘Photos of the damaged ambulances were published in many newspapers and websites, and breathless reporters – such as Julian Manyon of ITV News in Britain – bemoaned “Lebanese ambulance men, shocked and bleeding, brought in as casualties to a hospital in Tyre. They were hurt when Israeli aircraft rocketed two ambulance crews…”‘
    
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/111168
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:33am
    - DJ Ward
      
      I literally laughed at that.
      
      So they didn’t actually hit the ambulance. However the people really were hurt, and the ambulances were covered in shrapnel holes but it wasn’t hit because on closer inspection it looks like a light was blown off rather than the rocket hitting that spot. The rocket not hitting the ambulance while hitting the ambulance argument. The cars next to the ambulance were completely destroyed so clearly they didn’t target the ambulance or its crew.
      
      Read what you post as evidence please.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:48am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Holy fuck but are you stupid. Those “shrapnel holes” had rust on them. Damned smart Jewish technology not only is so clever that all it does is blow light fittings off but it also automatically ages the puncture damage so it appears that they didn’t do it !
        
        You can see why it is pointless fighting the Jews, they’re just too clever for you. Why, next they’ll be stealing your clouds and snowfalls !
        
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        July 11, 2018 2:32pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        So Ed Snack. Was the injuries of the ambulance crew old rust wounds? You have to give some credit to those Arabs for pulling that trick off. So you trust Israeli media more than a month later after the “possible” event? Yes the most trustworthy media on the planet. Oh there was no blood in them, over a month later. Were they inside or outside at the time? Were those ambulances the actual ambulances? Were the ambulance drivers sick of picking up bits of children and set this up? The medias clearly bored of all those innocent children killed in residential apartment buildings, bombed using US fighter planes and US bombs because some horrid teenager threw a stone or let off a firecracker mistaken by high command as a ballistic missile.
        There is only one truth. People die and it’s the people without the weapons to attack or defend themselves.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:02pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    The MSM is generally Pro Israel
    
    What utter nonsense. Your hatred of Jews has made you impervious to the truth.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:45am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Hatred? No I just don’t like seeing people being forcibly removed from thier generationally owned homes just so some religious fundamentalist can cliam ownership.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:54am
      - Garbageman
        
        Damn someone call the Lone Ranger his horse triggered is here looking for attention cos those evil Jews are at it again on a side note DJ fuck palestine and their cowardly terrorist leaders the sooner they overstep the mark and Israel turns the place into a dust bowl the better how they haven’t already with multiple missiles fired daily burning kites destroying their crops stabbing etc shows restraint most other countries wouldn’t
        
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        July 11, 2018 1:55pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Indeed it was the French; Jacques Cousteau and Emile Gagnan.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:04am
    - Colville
      
      More filthy military invented technology….ban it for the sake of the world.
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:42am
secondcumming

One of the guys at the gun-club was telling us he’s been corresponding with some overseas Singles Introduction outfit, about hooking up with a *Russian Bride*. He reckons every photo they’ve sent him, all the Ruskie chicks look and talk like real dirty bitches.

Reading this story in the ODT yesterday, I can see what he means……

http://twitter.com/odtnews/status/1016422069871886337
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July 11, 2018 8:37am
- realityczech
  
  Studies have proven Kiwi women are the biggest sluts in the world. Russian women are superior in every way. Decent hard working reliable family oriented and look great.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:51am
  - stephieboy
    
    rc, based on what criteri?. Used as punch bags and confined to the house under House Arrest?
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:07am
    - realityczech
      
      “Used as punch bags and confined to the house under House Arrest?”
      
      stupidboy, what Maori do is their business.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:45am
    - MrLovebucket
      
      Punching the missus is much more traditional maori culture than matariki.
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:55am
      - realityczech
        
        Mr Love, they do tend to get lippy. It is a cultural thing. I am not one to judge.
        
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        July 11, 2018 11:34am
      - Longknives
        
        “Punching the missus is much more traditional maori culture than matariki.”
        
        And bashing infants, putting them in clothes dryers etc etc
        
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        July 11, 2018 2:55pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Yup, I hear what you’re saying RC. My mate was showing us a photo of one they sent him…. looks like she displays all the attributes you mention.
    
    https://i.imgflip.com/176gxh.jpg
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:19am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Look the husband stole the swerve to miss her sign.
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:08am
    - softail 1450
      
      S C,, Three pies Woods has a doppelganger,
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:41pm
      - secondcumming
        
        😎
        
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        July 11, 2018 1:31pm
- Harkman
  
  They’re all scammers, one of the UK papers followed a bus load of western guys to Odessa/Kiev who thought they were all about to marry supermodels. They all came away disappointed and thousands poorer. Apparently, they’re all “pro-daters” getting paid to sweet talk western men, while actually being in serious relationships.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:10am
- Nermal
  
  Why go overseas, when the internet tells me there are women in my very suburb just waiting for me?
  
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  July 11, 2018 4:45pm
Fletch

It’s very telling how the so-called “women’s march” in the U.S released a statement condemning Trump’s Supreme Court pick – only leaving ‘XX’ where the name was supposed to go. 😆

https://twitter.com/jhseher/status/1016499167873699840/photo/1

So yeh – it didn’t matter who it was, they were going to protest the choice.

The same with Democracy for America (or DFA), a progressive PAC out of Vermont who misgendered the pick as “she”.

https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1016490300364206080/photo/1

Prepared statements all ready to fly….
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July 11, 2018 8:38am
graham

So I saw this story on Stuff:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/105368615/im-going-to-kill-a-lot-of-people-wrote-woman-accused-of-axe-attack-court-hears

I start reading the story, about a 26-year-old woman who “allegedly” attacked three people with an axe in Sydney last year.

Most of the story concentrates on the details of the attack, the conversation on Facebook that led to it, and so on. Her barrister made some, umm, interesting comments that there was no dispute that “his client’s body” had committed the axe attack, but the question to be decided was what was happening in her mind.

“It’s not whether the body of Evie Amati was guilty of the charges, but whether the mind, brain, soul of Evie Amati bore any legal or moral responsibility for the body’s actions,” Waterstreet said.

Apparently she’s super intelligent, yah de yah.

Three quarters of the way down I get to this:

… Amati, who was born a man, began taking hormones in 2012 to transition to a woman but the drugs had a significant effect on her state of mind … Amati’s mental state deteriorated in 2015, when she had surgery in Thailand to complete her transition to a woman, and she began to experience visions, hallucinations and suicidal and homicidal ideation.

Just wondering, who’s to say the drugs caused her mental state to deteriorate? I’m sorry and I apologise in advance to anybody who may be offended by this, but to my mind anybody who thinks they have been born into the wrong body and should really be a different gender is, at the very least, terribly confused.

Can’t help wondering if the drugs alone are to blame.
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July 11, 2018 8:39am
- Fletch
  
  I watched a Steven Crowder video yesterday which goes into the history of gender theory, and it turns out that one of the first guys to promote it (unfortunately) was a guy from NZ called John Money.
  
  He was “treating” one of a pair of twin boys. One twin lost his penis after a botched circumcision, so Money decided to raise him as a girl. The parents agreed etc. Money had the twins interact with each other in weird ways, like dry humping each other naked, etc, while he took photos (I am not making this up).
  
  Later on, the “girl” wanted to be a natural boy, like he always should have been. He ended up blowing his head off with a shotgun when he was older while the other twin OD’d.
  
  And this is considered the pioneering “twin” study around gender theory which is still referenced in universities.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBr0qWE0X5I
  
  Money, of course, won many awards etc.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:48am
- MrLovebucket
  
  It’s a mental disorder. Simple as that.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:53am
thedavincimode

OK trendsetters. Now for a highly scientific survey.

What’s the general observation regarding fuel prices out of Auckland? My observation on diesel – going by pre and post fuel tax Auckland prices from Gaspy, is that the margin between out of Auckland prices I use and the most expensive Auckland prices has either remained the same (c. 20c/litre or thereabouts) or even reduced (to about 14 c/litre in one instance. ie prices out of Auckland appear to have increased beyond core fuel price changes.

No need to respond if you have your head up peters’ arse or you’re enjoying a progressive but more drawn out mental implosion along the lines of scottie kwiss.
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July 11, 2018 8:41am
- ztev
  
  Web sites can give petrol prices in different areas no need to rely on feelz
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:58am
  - thedavincimode
    
    As I explained ztev, there was no need to respond.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:05am
    - ztev
      
      Surely those trucking companies who were saving by refuelling out of Auckland were just dreaming according to you?
      
      But where is your example of specific stations. But then oil companies would charge Rick prick prices in St heliers and strugglers prices in takanini
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:13am
- KiWombat
  
  DVM – I drive from south island to Auckland a few times a year. I keep record of fuel (diesel) for these trips, and try to fill in Levin as prices there appear one of the lowest in the bottom half of the country.
  
  In November last I paid 94.7cpl for diesel in Levin.
  In April this year I paid 122.7cpl for diesel in Levin.
  In June this year I paid 136.7cpl for diesel in Levin.
  When I reached north Auckland diesel prices were 151.9cpl in Wangaparaoa.
  
  Hope these figures aid your research.
  
  On the trip south I try to reach the isolated Gull station at Atiamuri near Taupo where prices seem to amongst the cheapest available on the entire trip !
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:44am
VicParking

Red Radio: “Not many texts in Favour of Phil Goff”
But the only ones they Quote are those in favour.
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July 11, 2018 8:42am
- VicParking
  
  The failing newspaper online had an article about the raising of $50k at 5:30 last night. Gone this morning
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:50am
  - ztev
    
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    You are such a dotard… It’s not like a printed newspaper, but even they had different headlines for different editions.
    It’s digital and there are 2 things happening. Once you have seen a story and read it they will promote different stories, as clicks bring in the money. The other result is that stories that noone reads quickly fall down the queue of ones you see.
    Many many years ago when I worked for greeting card company, they did same thing. Cards that were least popular were pulled from display pockets in shops as there literally dozens of other options to replace them
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:05am
    - Harkman
      
      “Dotard” so original Young Labour.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:12am
      - ztev
        
        Look this site would knee deep in digital ads based on the reader numbers. But since they literally are dotards in advertising demographics there’s SFA. That whaleoil has same problem, Russian dating websites being a big advertiser because… Old men are the majority of readers
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:35am
      - Jack5
        
        Ztev, newspaper readers are also in average age skewed to the high end. Old (white) men are the big readers and subscribers as opposed to their proportion of semi-mythical “readership”.
        
        Ztev’s view of the relationship between advertising is simplistic and wrong. For example, historically business sections of English-language newspapers have been read by a small percentage of subscribers and few young readers yet attract disproportionate advertising.
        
        Sports and horse racing pages attract a readership greater than business pages do, and probably more younger readers, but historically have attracted far less advertising.
        
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        July 11, 2018 2:47pm
    - pentwig
      
      that explains a lot about you trev
      phew, poor you
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:55am
    - VicParking
      
      Ztev you dick. They leave articles up for days if they support the government. If fact you can often find them in three different places on the main page. Sometimes right beside each other.
      
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      July 11, 2018 11:58am
- Poppa
  
  I think Goofy may have bitten off a much more than he can chew on this.
  
  He is a sanctimonious little twerp
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:53am
- DJ Ward
  
  They must have had a secret meeting with Curren. Or had instructions taken down by the person who didn’t need to take minutes down anymore.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:04am
- Paulus
  
  A bit like the Nurses online voting – sounds suspicious in that nobody has the actual result except the Union who by Sunday had already decided that the strikes would take place.
  Understand it is the University graduate nurses who are the most militant now – not surprised as they are owed everything and know nothing – only what the books say.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:25am
Monique Watson

They fucking Made It. I wanna hear the Back Story. That was not an Uncomplicated Dive. It was a Drift Dive combined with a Night Dive. Two divers to each bod! Just glad they’re out.
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July 11, 2018 8:49am
- stephieboy
  
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  Monique Watson, yes they should have recruited you as the chief advisor if thought it was so simple and straightforward.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:58am
  - G152
    
    Cave diving while uncommon here is a very technical operation involving extremely tight spaces (squeezes) freezing water and strong currents as well as zero visibility.
    In 30 years I only had one dive in conditions that could be considered as a ‘pot holer’
    
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    July 11, 2018 11:01am
    - Brigitte
      
      To spelunkers a tight squeeze is known as a honking hole. Near Nelson there are the Hinkle Horn honking holes. But arachnophobes might not be keen as success will get them into the domain of NZs largest native spider, Spelungula cavernicola.
      
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      July 11, 2018 11:18am
    - Ed Snack
      
      They do a bit, mostly around Nelson. Cave diving is very risky and usually very arduous – carrying all the necessary gear into a cave to the point where one can dive can be exhausting. And if anything goes wrong there’s very few options.
      
      Interesting to note that the Brits have been into cave diving for some time, and it was a couple of experienced Brit cave divers who led the way in to the boys. Experienced cave divers were probably more use than the SEAL divers. Nothing wrong with the skills of the SEALS but cave diving is a very specialised skill set.
      
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      July 11, 2018 2:40pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Sorry but I couldn’t help it!
  
  Do caves have daytime dives?
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:06am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Sometimes the light lances in. But not in this case.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:15am
    - ztev
      
      So the idea of night diving is what they allways do. LED lights and lithium batteries have made all that stuff easy as I noticed on a great barrier reef diving boat. No lights is the harder part
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:39am
- cas
  
  Absolutely fantastic work by all concerned. Can’t help thinking that the fact that they were Thai and probably Buddhist has helped in their survival. Imagine if they were from a nation which has more emotional and excitable citizens. The latter may not have lasted so well.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:42am
MCos

Three of the boys stuck in the cave in Chiang Rai are not Thai, but stateless with no birth certificates. The team has been invited to visit ManU, but these kids currently can’t get passports unless they are granted Thai citizenship.
Around that area there are numerous refugee families from Myanmar, victims of ethnic cleansing over generations. Hundreds of thousands of them. If you drive around some of the remote areas up there, as we have, you can see their villages where they scratch out a living like human zoos or there’re exploited as cheap labour.
The Burmese loathe them, the Thais don’t want them.
Maybe this bit of exposure will shine some light on their plight, but as with the Rohingya, I doubt it’ll last long.
When the British rescuers first made contact with the lads the only one who could speak English was one of the stateless boys.
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July 11, 2018 8:52am
- ztev
  
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  Names of ‘british rescuers’ who bought them out. Or there were none
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:08am
  - ex-golfer
    
    Feel free to use Google:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/105390894/thai-cave-rescue-all-13-members-of-wild-boars-football-team-successfully-rescued
    
    The team of divers that found them were British.
    The Doctor that has been going in each day and signing off their extraction is Australian.
    It is an international effort.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:11am
    - Harkman
      
      Without the evil white man, this planet would be a utopia of kindness and fairies. Oh, no, the opposite of that.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:16am
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        Harkman, no! Without alt right palefaces like you.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:19am
      - Harkman
        
        Hey Ralph explain for us all what the “alt right” is? Something tells me that someone has heard one too many Hillary Clinton speeches. Watch out we might be colluding with Russia.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:26am
      - stephieboy
        
        Harkman, your alt right protege is here,
        
        https://me.me/i/alt-righters-be-like-again-how-do-you-do-fellow-race-4587133
        
        LOL
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:35am
      - ztev
        
        Colluding with Russia is when you have meetings an stuff plus coordinate the release of DNC hacked emails.
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:43am
      - waikatogirl
        
        “palefaces like you”
        Racist, racist, squawk! ?
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:53am
      - Longknives
        
        “Without the evil white man, this planet would be a utopia of kindness and fairies. ”
        
        Wakanda!!!
        *The moment Marvel jumped the fucking shark and ruined a great movie series with Political Correctness..
        
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        July 11, 2018 2:53pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        But the DNC Emails weren’t hacked by Russians, they were taken as an inside job.
        
        You probably even think Guccifer2 was genuine – mug. That persona claimed to have released certain documents from the DNC email leak and these hard cryllic error messages embedded just to show attribution to Russia.
        
        Unfortunately for this ruse, there is a very specific series of steps required to get the Cyrillic messages embedded and those steps are pretty improbable ones unless it is indeed ones aim to embed such messages. Then the wheels really fall off when the prime document claimed to be from the DNC is actually from John Podesta’s email account and NOT the DNC. The DNC acknowledges that.
        
        So why did G2 release that document and claim it was from the DNC, misdirection anyone ? G2 was a Crowdstrike employee or contractor set up to divert attention. Crowdstrike, the outfit led by a fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainian who were the only people to examine the DNC server. The FBI never saw it or examined it in detail, they only saw what parts Crowdstrike released to them.
        
        We have Russian collusion alright, the Clinton campaign paid FSB agents to “source” misinformation to fill out the Steele Dossier – that’s real collusion and real payment to a foreign intelligence agency, but hey, look over there, squirrel !
        
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        July 12, 2018 11:26am
    - G152
      
      We await trevs awkward apology
      
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      July 11, 2018 11:03am
  - kowtow
    
    Bought them ?
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:39am
- Paulus
  
  Heard from UK that some Manchester U players may well go to Thailand to meet the team.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:26am
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12 books you should read instead of reading Jordan Peterson’s “12 Rules For Life” (or watching his YouTube talks)

“..So without further ado, here are twelve books that will offer a better understanding of the world and better tools of improving oneself without resorting to a lame self-help book…”

Summary,

“Letters from a Stoic”-Seneca
“Meditations” — Marcus Aurelius
“The Better Angels of Our Nature” — Steven Pinker
“Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind” — Yuval Noah Harari
“The Sublime Object of Ideology” — Slavoj Žižek
“The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature” — Steven Pinker “The Second Sex” — Simone de Beauvoir
“At The Existentialist Café” — Sarah Bakewell “Manufacturing Consent” — Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman
“Letters to a Young Contrarian” — Christopher Hitchens “The Book on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are” — Alan Watts “The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays” — Albert Camus

https://medium.com/@magicsebi/12-books-you-should-read-instead-of-reading-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-or-watching-his-9bfb3760e181
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July 11, 2018 8:56am
- Fletch
  
  You left out ‘The Communist Manifesto’….
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:00am
  - Nermal
    
    And the Koran
    
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    July 11, 2018 4:50pm
- DJ Ward
  
  So to learn about this subject lefties need to read 12 books while those on the right just need to read 1.
  
  No wonder those on the left never actually do anything. And when they do you can’t work out what “book” they regurgitating as even they’re confused.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:13am
- dime
  
  i cant imagine a shit head like yourself has read “Meditations” — Marcus Aurelius
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:57am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Have you actually read 12 Rules for Life Stephieboy?
  
  If you haven’t you are just espousing your complete ignorance.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:10am
- KevOB
  
  Soulless.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:49am
- VicParking
  
  Can you read stephie. After a life of wanking and Bestiality you would be blind by now ??
  
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  July 11, 2018 12:02pm
stephieboy

Fletch, sorry the contributor didn’t include it. Nor the Dark Bible I wonder why?
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July 11, 2018 9:04am
peterwn

That young female EU diplomat who won’t pay rent arrears and damage and has hid behind diplomatic immunity.
Winston upheld her diplomatic immunity protection – I have no problem with this. However he should also have said that the EU should recall her.
Foreign affairs should quietly tell the EU Ambassador that if she does not cough up she will be declared persona non grata.
The EU Ambassador should also show some leadership and have a meeting with her without coffee and tell her if she does not sort things she will be sent home. Perhaps she is protected by EU bureaucracy. Many other nations would not tolerate that sort of behaviour from their diplomats for one moment. Years ago the UK Government recalled the British Assistant High Commissioner because he was not doing his job or similar.

Her new landlord must be quaking in his shoes – he would not have known of this issue when they signed the rental agreement. He will no doubt be doing the quarterly checks thoroughly and riding shotgun if rent is one day late. No doubt she is now on the tenancy badlist – hopefully diplomatic immunity does not keep her off it.

Hope the old landlord has her listed with VEDA etc and overseas affiliates.

She had screwed things up for all other diplomats wanting to rent. Diplomats will have moved from ‘most favoured’ tenants to ‘scum’ tenants. Perhaps landlords might be able to ask for bank guarantees or similar.
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July 11, 2018 9:12am
- ex-golfer
  
  Feel free to use Google:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/105390894/thai-cave-rescue-all-13-members-of-wild-boars-football-team-successfully-rescued
  
  The team of divers that found them were British.
  The Doctor that has been going in each day and signing off their extraction is Australian.
  It is an international effort.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:15am
  - ex-golfer
    
    Sorry about that – not sure how that has happened. This was meant to be a reply to ztevs comment above. Delete function is not working for me!
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:17am
- ex-golfer
  
  @Peterwn – here’s what I really meant to post!
  
  This will send a signal to landlords all over Wellington (and other parts of NZ) that provide rental accommodation for Diplomats to ensure that they demand a high bond up-front and substantial periods of rent paid in advance.
  The actions of this one diplomat will impact negatively on others.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:21am
  - peterwn
    
    Unfortunately tenancy law limits size of bonds and amount of upfront rent. Coming to think of it I am not sure if landlords asking for guarantors would be possible either.
    
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    July 12, 2018 7:46am
- Poppa
  
  Totally agree Peter
  
  I think I heard she is leaving shortly, not sure why.
  She will probably leave with arrears on the new place as well.
  
  She has not done other diplomats any favours that is for sure
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:28am
- Paulus
  
  Understood she is leaving in August anyway.
  Typical Leech.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:29am
- Happychappy
  
  If it had been someone close to Winston First he would have found a way for the money to be paid. No diplomat should be exempt from civil proceedings, especially if it in the thousands of dollars.
  
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  July 11, 2018 11:25am
Tauhei Notts

I saw a bit in this morning’s paper where a school teacher said that year nine boys ranged in weight from 38kg to, get this!, 160kg.
Then I thought that if those two boys went on a flight to a hiking site with all their gear which exceeded the 20kg baggage allowance they would each have to pay the same overweight charge because they each had 5kg overweight.
If you think that is fair, then you and I have differing views on fairness.
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July 11, 2018 9:12am
- DJ Ward
  
  If your not allowed on the skywalk at Rotorua’s Redwood forest then it should be Law that you do laps of the park until you can.
  
  Awesome trees if you have never seen them. There about 116 years old. In another 100 years they’ll be a national treasure.
  We need something cool when all the Kauri are dead.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:21am
  - timmydevo
    
    I’m planting kauri trees in my Canterbury garden this spring. With global warming assisting their climate requirements, they’re gonna look amazing in 500 years.
    
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    July 11, 2018 2:40pm
duggledog

mikenmild again

Re the white South Africans, you said

“… and that most of them could easily emigrate if they chose.”

According to Southern’s documentary it costs $300,000 to emigrate. I’ve had that figure verified by a SAFA I know. Not many have access to that money especially poor whites, but the gentle people who run South Africa know desperate people will pay to get out of a country as we have seen all over the world.

I wonder if there will be civil war. Whites are outnumbered by blacks ten to one but I would draw a comparison between a Roman legion and a horde of barbarians.
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July 11, 2018 9:20am
- ztev
  
  There’s enough ‘africans’ here to know that’s an bsurd number. Maybe 1/10 of that
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:50am
- dime
  
  turns out whites are a lot better at war thank black dudes.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:59am
  - Longknives
    
    Indeed History would suggest that Dime!
    All these self-professed ‘Warrior Races’ have, throughout History, had their arses absolutely handed to them by those ‘Little White Guys’ they love to sneer at and mock now….
    
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    July 11, 2018 2:50pm
- waikatogirl
  
  The white SA farmers have to protect themselves as the police don’t show even when armed attackers are on the property. The farmers have formed their own security patrols. If the SA farmers land is being taken without compensation then how does a penniless farmer pay to leave the country?
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:01am
Surely Knott

The Standard are claiming that the free speech coallition is to protect the speech of right wing racists. The irony is the left are blocking the Canadian speakers who want to talk about, amongst other things, the negative effects of immigration. And yet it was Labour and NZ1 who won the election using race based anti immigration rhetoric. But now that the election is over they can go back to the virtue signalling.
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July 11, 2018 9:21am
- backster
  
  It is their version of being open and transparent. They even have a Minister of it.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:58am
Harkman

So the IRD staff are going on strike, just imagine those poor bastards waiting on the phone. They’re never getting through. ?
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July 11, 2018 9:30am
- Brigitte
  
  Have some consideration for them, after all they are the only public servants who can honestly say that their work is taxing!
  
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  July 11, 2018 11:31am
  - Komata
    
    Brigitte
    
    Tardish ‘Oi’!!
    
    It might be an oldie but it’s a goodie folks…
    
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    July 11, 2018 12:51pm
Lee C

Vic My view is that Winston Peters secured the reins of power, placed his henchmen into position where they could get the majority of funding to ‘influence’ their next election-drive, and left Labour powerless to assist its core constituency of nurses and teachers. Meanwhile the racing industry, foreign embassies and defence forces got to spend up large thus cow-towing to the kinds of overseas investment and silent partners who fund political parties and corrupt our democratic process.
All because Jacinda Ardern couldn’t keep her knickers on.
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July 11, 2018 9:42am
- ztev
  
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  Hilarious. Except it’s cabinet who makes the decisions.
  Ron Marks also had botched update of the Navy frigates to pay for in the first month after the election….another $150 mill please….another hospital pass like the derelict wards ,not all, at middlemore
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:47am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Except it’s cabinet who makes the decisions.
    
    Remind us again how cabinet decided about the closure of our offshore oil and gas exploration?
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:49am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Indeed; and the scrapping of health and police targets, and Shane Jones’ slush fund, and so much more.
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:58am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Who is Ron Marks? Is he related to John Keys?
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:00am
    - Inandout
      
      Or Cindy Aderns, Helen Clarke and Phil Twyfords.
      
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      July 11, 2018 11:44am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    The name is Ron Mark.
    There is mercifully only one of him.
    
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    July 11, 2018 12:52pm
Lee C

Hilarious!
Yes I’ll pass that on to the nurses and the Teachers.
It’s up there with the “Moari should stop whinging” another Labour-supporter suggested recently here.

The only thing your statement about ‘cabinet making decisions’ was missing, was canned laughter, ztev.

And that’s a ‘Captains call’ from me, mate.
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July 11, 2018 10:01am
Stars And Stripes

For me this issue of Goff banning the speakers from council venues shows how far the National Party has fallen in my estimations and essentially abandoned it’s traditional voter base.
National used to stand for freedom of business and individuals and an issue like this would have created some serious noise from them in the past but now we just get a couple of low level radio interviews stating their position but nothing with any conviction or desire to take a stand on.
They have become cowered and don’t want to say anything which is controversial or challenges the national religion of multiculturalism and diversity.
Instead the battle to preserve peoples rights is left to ordinary citizens who care enough to chip in and test the issue in court.
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July 11, 2018 10:13am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Simon Bridges at his Whanganui meeting on Monday was adamant that this was an issue of free speech, and Goff was wrong.
  
  Unfortunately, the media is setting the agenda, and only publishes the comments it wants you to hear. Those comments are unlikely to include anything from those who would uphold free speech.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:40am
  - stephieboy
    
    KS, you’d be unsurprisingly wrong there,
    
    Bridges backs free speech for far-right writers banned from Auckland Council venues
    
    9 Jul, 2018 10:26am
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12085659
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:46am
    - rangitoto
      
      Do you ever read what you post?
      
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      July 11, 2018 10:55am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      What constitutes ‘far right’? Is it simply anything that isn’t your neo-Marxist view of the world?
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
        SC, “neo-Marxist view of the world”?
        
        Or anything you disagree with is labelled so.
        
        Correct?
        
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        July 11, 2018 12:10pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        SC – I notice that on 6 July Southern and Molyneux were described by the Herald as alt-right.
        On 9 July they are far-right.
        
        I won’t hold my breathe until the day the Herald will admit they are completely-right!
        
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        July 11, 2018 1:00pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “I won’t hold my breathe until the day the Herald will admit they are completely-right!”
        
        Or even “All Right” 🙂
        
        https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1016548024116482049
        
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        July 11, 2018 2:41pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Thanks Rangitoto, I hadn’t read that.
        Great minds, and all that stuff!
        
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        July 11, 2018 6:40pm
    - Harkman
      
      “Or anything you disagree with is labelled so.
      
      Correct?”
      
      Earlier on the page you called me and everyone who you disagree with on here “alt right.” You really have a memory problem Ralph. Soon you’ll be stating that Labour left an economy that was growing above 3% pa in 2008/2009 and that National left a recession in 2017/2018. Ha, ha, ha. ?
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:36pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Simon Bridges talking about it at a small town get together just reinforces my point about National making low level mutterings about the issue.
    Bridges and other MP’s need to be hammering this in parliament and other larger forums to really convince me they care more than a token about this.
    As for a media conspiracy to silence it up, well I have seen a fair bit of discussion about it and to be honest Chris Trotter has been more visible on this issue than National.
    
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    July 11, 2018 10:55am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Trotter probably had them fooled. They were thinking “notable left leaning commentator will tow the PC line” then boomfah…. too late.
      
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      July 11, 2018 12:08pm
  - VicParking
    
    I dont think there was any press at the meeting. Have not seen it reported on (Online version as I dont waste my money on the cat litter version)
    
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    July 11, 2018 12:08pm
- DJ Ward
  
  It’s the result of multiculturism, as you pointed out.
  These two speakers don’t support it. National, like Labour and the Greens pandering to feminists, is forced to stay silent on issues if it may offend some of its voter base. National has significant support in some racial groups, IE it’s not just a party of pale faced farmers aged 60+.
  You can guarantee they have had a meeting, or off the books message banning members from saying anything. Stick to the, we don’t agree with “everything” they say, but we support free speech.
  Labour hates the male speaker due to his criticism of Feminism.
  
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  July 11, 2018 10:54am
Left Right and Centre

Hi – I’m Kent Brockman.
And now we cross live for the latest daily update on the football team in the cave in Thailand . . .

zzzzzzz
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July 11, 2018 10:45am
Maxx

What a farking joke.

Headline: Jobseeker’s misery: 32 applications, five interviews, no work

Detail, has applied for 32 jobs over 6 months, and had 5 interviews. In six months she has only applied for less than one job a week? No wownder she has no job! But no, she blames it on age!

Admitedly, Whanganui is a shithole and doesn’t have much going for it, but she should be applying for EVERY RELATED JOB that comes up.
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July 11, 2018 11:00am
- ross411
  
  That might very well be every job she can even be considered related for in the district.
  
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  July 11, 2018 12:06pm
- VicParking
  
  32 Jobs total in six months must be a record for Whanganui. Most jobs dont get into the public arena, they are filled with Cousins, children or. Next door neighbors.
  
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  July 11, 2018 12:10pm
- softail 1450
  
  Maxx, au contraire Maxx, Whanganui has a great
  Mcdonalds and a KFC….
  
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  July 11, 2018 12:34pm
- DigNap15
  
  I think she did very well in getting 5 interviews!
  Many people get none.
  Also the fact that she got 5 interviews shows the employers are not biased against age.
  
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  July 11, 2018 2:26pm
Anne Glen Eden

You have to laugh at the sheer lack of discernment of the obvious, or even a little self-awareness, of the MSM.

Ferdinando Giugliano comment in Bloomberg says:

“The Brussels bureaucrat may be an easy target rhetorically but they’re a hard opponent, precisely because they have very little flexibility to deviate from the agreed rules.”

There’s an old motto “We bend but never break”. ‘Weasel’ Gove has even framed it as not sacrificing ‘the good for the perfect’ as justification for UK capitulation to EU demands. European countries are increasingly demanding ‘bending’ from the elite powerbrokers of the EU with increasing discord.

Giugliano is celebrating the EU being completely unbending and strenuously and studiously avoiding all ‘good’ for the European people in the name of their ideological ‘perfection’. He seems to think it’s a successful strategy into a future for them.

But then, even he has to recognise the inevitable:

“Of course, EU member states might one day realise that this is all too much to bear and that countries need to be free to set their own course.”

Yes, that is the inevitable outcome of refusing to ‘bend’. You ‘break’ – most often at immense human cost as you take a lot of others with you.

He also says, “But until then, the Johnsons and Davises of Europe are destined to fail.”

What a thing to celebrate – how perverse can you get? Besides, any ‘failure’ of Boris Johnson is in his personal career and has no bearing on Brexit at all. David Davis will remain a hero with integrity which is clearly what matters to him – only the most inhuman careerist can see his decision as ‘failure’. He’s at the height of success.

The obvious reality which Giugliano, the MSM generally, and the EU in particular fail to realise or recognise all the time is that it’s ‘the people’ of the UK who chose Brexit – and those across Europe who are challenging the EU. It’s not Davis or Johnson or Farage or anyone else in particular. They might all be playing roles as true representatives of those people – but they are only ‘representatives’ who can be changed at will by themselves or ‘the people’.

The only failure going on is in the totalitarian and unbending EU. The ultimate price to be paid will be by the EU. They’ll undoubtedly hurt a lot of others on the way out, but inevitably out they will go – broken – if they don’t bend.

The UK is bending in the gales but ultimately there is only one response to it. They’re going to have to plant their feet onto their own solid ground, stand up, pick up their social, economic, and political mat, and walk determinedly into their own international and world-leading future.

The image of the British Bulldog is not an accident. Neither is their attitude of ‘keep calm and carry on’. Both have been seen in the Thai cave rescue which could be seen as a metaphor for escaping the EU. It’s not a question of ‘if’; it’s a question of how and when. They are the best in the world at it when faced with the apparently ‘impossible’. A willingness to sacrifice immediate comfort and safety is part of it – some may be lost – and so is the preparedness of themselves, and as leaders, to squeeze past sharp objects, around tight corners, and through impossibly small spaces to get to open air and new life. Long may they reign.
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July 11, 2018 11:31am
Monique Watson

Hahahaha

Sheep in the front seat:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12086892
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July 11, 2018 12:01pm
- softail 1450
  
  M W, The dog must be thinking “how come that bastard managed to get up there”
  
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  July 11, 2018 12:27pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Ewe first to bleat ‘shotgun’. (standard call for the front passenger seat.) ? So cute.
    
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    July 11, 2018 12:32pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  As it indeed should be!
  
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  July 11, 2018 1:01pm
Monique Watson

Haha @softail1450! Obviously the ewe shaved that day. Dog’s like:”Friggin’ Heck, I’ll run a razor over the Chops if it gets me that close to the Drivers”.
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July 11, 2018 12:35pm
Hugh Pavletich

Government signs off $158m infrastructure loans for Tauranga – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12086881

… extracts …

… He said more infrastructure project announcements were expected in the coming months once business cases were evaluated and approved, and that included the greenfield development at Te Tumu in Papamoa East.

Twyford also said today that the infrastructure would provide water and wastewater capacity for an additional 35,000 houses, which could be either infill or greenfield developments. …

… However, he also said in April that the fund was not a lasting solution to the problem of a broken system for financing infrastructure and one of the Government’s big priorities was to create a new system. … read more via hyperlink above …

… The focus must be on abolishing urban limits and appropriately debt financing infrastructure …refer Ardern / Twyford section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …

Govt criticised (by Pavletich) for moving slowly on Auckland growth boundary | Michael Daly | Fairfax / Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary

Governments pathetic performance since Christmas – Hugh Pavletich

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/General%20June.html
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July 11, 2018 1:18pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Hugh – add about 100 more links. Somebody might notice.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

English – the lingua franca of the World

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-44789468/cave-rescue-you-never-know-when-you-ll-need-english
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July 11, 2018 1:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Eion Musk -rebuffed and nasty

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/10/elon-musk-queries-expertise-of-thai-cave-rescue-officials
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July 11, 2018 1:52pm
- rangitoto
  
  The guy has a cheek when he knows nothing about it himself. Imagine if that thing had got wedged in one of the choke points. He should be putting his efforts into saving his Tesla business.
  
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  July 11, 2018 2:35pm
  - Jack5
    
    He should be putting his efforts into saving his Tesla business….
    
    And into developing his big city-wide batteries that NZ is going to need for electricity.
    
    We will need these because the Prime Minister, perhaps deranged by first-trimester morning sickness, effectively axed the NZ oil and gas industries.
    
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    July 11, 2018 3:17pm
Manolo

The venal Mr Peters talks (and drinks) too much:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/peters-stands-by-defence-paper-following-stern-words-from-china/ar-AAzTC4L

China has lodged “stern representations with New Zealand” after the Defence Force explicitly named China as a threat before spending $2.3 billion on anti-submarine aircraft.

“We urge New Zealand to view the relevant issue in an objective way, correct its wrong words and deeds and contribute more to the mutual trust and cooperation between our two countries,” Ms Hua told the conference.
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July 11, 2018 2:09pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Nailed it, Manolo.
  Sell-outs like you would do anything to avoid upsetting the Chinese Communist Party.
  
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  July 11, 2018 2:21pm
  - realityczech
    
    Milky what the fuck was that comment? Are Labour HQ paying you by the word now?
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:29pm
    - sooty
      
      It’s not by the content!
      
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      July 11, 2018 9:42pm
      - sooty
        
        I think stephie get’s paid by the downtick, because he get’s buggerall upticks!
        
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        July 11, 2018 9:44pm
- RF
  
  There goes the much trumpeted free trade deal….
  
  Cindy will be pissed…..
  
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  July 11, 2018 6:30pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Geeze that’s steep coming from the Chinese. Invaded Tibet, militarily oppress minorities, border clashes with India, continually threaten Tiawon, want to invade Japanese islands, prop up North Korea, engaged in battle vs the UN, build military bases on islands belonging to foreign nations.
  Also developed ship mounted rail guns, space weapons, laser weapons, nukes, hypersonic missiles, military drones, stealth immune radar, and have a society modelled on Helen Clarks Utopia.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:22pm
- realityczech
  
  Makes me wonder how much you have to drink to hallucinate that China is a military threat to NZ and that we could avert that threat with a few silly planes.
  
  China was a super power for centuries and never went around the world conquering other countries. They do that through business not war.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:27pm
Jack5

Red Radio gets the pay-off for backing the Left.

The Government’s granted it an extra $4.5 million in funding this year.

Crazy Clare, the Broadcasting Minister, is reported on the Radio NZ web site as saying of the reasons for the handout:

…RNZ would help extend current services and took the public media organisation a step closer towards becoming a fully digital multi-platform, called RNZ+.

Fully digital? Bullshit. Its radio broadcasts in AM and FM will remain analogue. Haven’t heard anything about State-funded digital broadcasting for NZ.

The Government has also earmarked another $4m for State funder NZ On Air to support the production of “more diverse local content.”

That’s Left-speak for multiculturism.

State Leftists trying to corner the internet is like King Canute (allegedly) ordering back the tide.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/361587/rnz-gets-4-point-5m-extra-funding-this-year
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July 11, 2018 2:21pm
- Jack5
  
  Note Crazy Clare Curran also announced another $500,000 will be used “to research how Crown-funded media agencies can use their assets more efficiently and to work out the future level of funding required for public media.”
  
  Curran shouldn’t be allowed to have a credit card let alone the key to NZ taxpayers’ cash.
  
  She says NZ “public media” (State owned media – TVNZ and Radio NZ) are poorly funded compared with other countries of a similar size and with Australia.
  
  Curran’s staff should point out to her that Australia’s GDP is more than 6.7 times as big as New Zealand’s, while its population is roughly five times the size of New Zealand’s.
  
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  July 11, 2018 2:37pm
- realityczech
  
  RNZ might dirty lying bribe taking communists, but they are certainly not cheap!
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:32pm
Longknives

In an absolutely fucking bottom of the barrel scraping attempt to find a ‘New Zealand Connection’ to the Football World Cup Stuff have (Drumroll…)
Told us we should support Croatia because, wait for it…
Lorde is Croatian!!!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/105405151/good-lorde-there-are-so-so-many-fine-reasons-for-kiwis-to-get-behind-croatia

What the hell happened to Journalism??
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July 11, 2018 3:17pm
- Jack5
  
  But have you seen Croatia’s knock-out President?
  
  If she headed our National, it wouldn’t need an MMP partner to sweep the country.
  
  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=President+Kolinda+Grabar-Kitarovic%2C&atb=v114-2_y&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.onlinenigeria.com%2Fsite%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F07%2Fphotos-of-the-croatian-president-kolinda-grabar-kitarovic-that-are-causing-stir-on-social-media-2.jpg
  
  AND:
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5940301/World-Cup-Daily-Mails-guide-need-know-Englands-Croatian-opponents.html
  
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  July 11, 2018 3:43pm
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi8fT9oHkQ
    
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    July 11, 2018 3:51pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack5, a boob fixation?
    
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    July 11, 2018 3:54pm
    - Jack5
      
      I realise the President is a bit mature for the young Stephieboys’ tastes.
      
      Someone care to remind us what the Stephie went to the mall to leer at?
      
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      July 11, 2018 3:59pm
    - realityczech
      
      “Jack5, a boob fixation?”
      
      stupidboy, yes human females get them after puberty which is why you have not seen them. Same as your goats, but on a human.
      
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      July 11, 2018 6:18pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Better than a goat fixation.
      
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      July 11, 2018 8:39pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Off to Croatia. NOW. Any chance we can get her to speak at a council owned property ( like a swimming pool)….
    
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    July 11, 2018 5:15pm
    - realityczech
      
      “Off to Croatia. NOW”
      
      There are women like that everywhere. Very attractive people.
      
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      July 11, 2018 6:19pm
  - Harkman
    
    Wow! ? to quote McEnroe, “You cannot be serious?”
    
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    July 11, 2018 5:28pm
- stephieboy
  
  Longknives, as her Mother was Croatian it is not that unreasonable for media to make a connection,
  
  https://www.total-croatia-news.com/lifestyle/21869-singer-lorde-talks-croatian-heritage
  
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  July 11, 2018 3:59pm
  - Jack5
    
    There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of Aucklanders and Northlanders with Dallie (Croatian) heritage.
    
    Lorde would be the strangest of all of them.
    
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    July 11, 2018 4:01pm
  - Longknives
    
    Isn’t Lorde yesterday’s news?
    She tried to get all political, and ended up with egg all over her face. Then her last tour flopped miserably (Empty seats all round) and the little attention seeker was last heard of claiming she was a ‘Witch who could speak to the ghost of David Bowie’ (or something ludicrous like that)
    
    Surely they could have found someone from Dancing with the Stars or Shortland Street who has Croatian heritage?
    
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    July 11, 2018 4:08pm
    - Jack5
      
      This link says there are about 60,000 people of Dalmatian/Croat extractiion in NZ – nearly all in the North Island.
      
      That would compare with more than two million, including Maori, with at least some English blood.
      
      https://www.croatiaweek.com/160-years-of-croatians-in-new-zealand-celebrated/
      
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      July 11, 2018 4:19pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    It is completely unreasonable for the media to draw any relevance from it.
    
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    July 11, 2018 5:14pm
Surely Knott

1. Comedy – Spinoff’s new series. The Bros (one chinese, one maori, one pacific) with “reviews of fancy shit White people like”. Funny – not racist. Lefty approved. 2. Art – Christchurch art gallery 2015 – Tshirt called Vestal Masturbation with Nun Abusing Jesus. Art – enlightening – not Racist. Approved for Council building art display. 3. Public Performance – Lauren Southern publicity stunt with posters “Allah is Gay, Allah is Trans, Allah is Transex, Allah is Feminist , Allah is all of us. ” Alt – Right. Not funny. Banned from Uk. Not worthy of discussion. Not to be displayed in council buildings.
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July 11, 2018 4:15pm
- itstricky
  
  Lauren Southern is not art, nor comedy (which is art anyway I suppose).
  
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  July 11, 2018 6:03pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    Checking her Instagram certainly makes her art in my eyes!
    
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    July 11, 2018 6:17pm
    - itstricky
      
      LOL. Yes I royally stuffed that sentence up. I wanted to say “Lauren Southern’s work is not…”. Equally I could have said “Lauren Southern is art & comedy”
      
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      July 11, 2018 6:28pm
Debbie

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12087172

Apparently they are putting up $10,000 reward for anyone providing information that leads to a conviction against Awanui Black.

I’m not sure, it doesn’t feel quite right to me.
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July 11, 2018 4:51pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  hang on, isn’t he dead? Can you even bring a criminal case against a dead person?
  
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  July 11, 2018 4:59pm
  - Debbie
    
    Exactly
    
    How do you get a conviction without a trial?
    
    And how can anyone have a fair trial if they’re dead?
    
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    July 11, 2018 5:19pm
    - ex-golfer
      
      People who plead guilty can get convictions without trial. However I don’t think this guy has the ability to plead!
      
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      July 11, 2018 5:58pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    The tribe are asking for any information on the accusation of a paedophile ring. $10k to any info leading to a conviction.
    
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    July 11, 2018 7:39pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Virtue signalling big time?
  The loot is to be paid for information ‘leading to a conviction’.
  I sincerely hope Police would not bother to charge a dead person, and further that the Court would not enter a conviction, so fairly safe there.
  
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  July 11, 2018 5:20pm
- realityczech
  
  “I’m not sure, it doesn’t feel quite right to me.”
  
  Debbie, same here. No victims have come forward since the story broke. None.
  
  Now they are going to pay $10k for someone to step up and make allegations against a dead man.
  
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  July 11, 2018 6:37pm
  - fernglas
    
    It will be a good incentive for someone to step forward and make false allegations against some living man, linking him in some way with the deceased Mr Black. A very stupid move by the iwi.
    
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    July 11, 2018 7:37pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Why don’t they interview those he has come in contact with? But before they went on the hate men bandwagon with the media. Now all the evidence is tainted. Sorry it was tainted but now they are offering money, plus the ACC payout, plus the media interview money, it’s no longer believable. Independent identicle type stories, with some other detials like, not circumcised 3inches long etc required.
  
  If there is a Pedo ring or rings based on the ease of making police complaints one would think that’s very unlikely unless it’s very few victims.
  
  Otherwise put this mans painting back up.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:39pm
rightoverlabour

I am shocked – Rewi Daniel Savage. Although the surname sure describes this POS. Oh, and it should have Macrons….. Special people and all that……

https://www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/105417849/rangitaiki-river-toddler-murder-accused-named
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July 11, 2018 5:13pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  And the murdered child was given the name of an ointment that treats bruises. Didn’t stand a chance.
  
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  July 11, 2018 5:23pm
ex-golfer

Email received today……it includes the following excerpt:

“Thank you for registering your interest in KiwiBuild. You’re one of thousands of Kiwis who want to buy an affordable home of their own.

Right now, the first KiwiBuild homes are being built and more projects are going to get underway soon.

Over the next 12 months, 1,000 KiwiBuild homes will be built. There will be 5,000 more built in the year to June 2020, 10,000 in the year after that, and 12,000 a year in the following years.”

Its signed by a Stephen Barclay, Head of KiwiBuild.

Seems Stephen has set himself up for failure if he believes the fairytales that Twitford has been spouting. I hope he has good insurance – there may be some very unhappy people when those targets are not met.
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July 11, 2018 5:56pm
ex-golfer

So it would appear that 1 in 10 people did not complete the Census. That’s over 450,000.
No surprises there.
It was a shambles the way they went for a wholly online option (with some minor exceptions).

It was so important that the Minister for Statistics (Jimmy 2-Mums) decided he needn’t even be in the country on designated Census day!
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July 11, 2018 6:06pm
- rangitoto
  
  Fine them $1,000 each and they will be able to give the nurses a top up on the pay offer.
  
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  July 11, 2018 7:28pm
  - fernglas
    
    We completed the census forms online, and received a threatening letter nevertheless. The whole thing is a cock-up from go to whoa.
    
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    July 11, 2018 7:39pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Did Jimmy-2-Mums complete his census form?
  
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  July 11, 2018 7:43pm
- DJ Ward
  
  They ask women how many children they have.
  Men are not allowed to answer the question.
  
  Feminist Statistics in action.
  
  Women Studies / Political Science 101. How to create sexually bigoted / exclusive Data.
  
  You can’t force anybody to participate in anything that breaches the Human Rights Act.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:47pm
Happychappy

Our greatest ever finance minister maybe only in his opinions will not touch any of the one billion dollars surplus they have to pay the Nurses any more money as they might need it for a unforeseen emergency at a Later date. So how come Winston says we have no more money or will it embarrass the Coalition that National are right that they have to borrow a lot more than what the they have said they have borrowed to keep their head above water.
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July 11, 2018 6:06pm
RF

Come on Simon. I am tired of hearing Labour chanting National did nothing for 9 years and now they (Labour) have to correct this.

Show some mongrel……..
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July 11, 2018 6:36pm
- realityczech
  
  RF, I agree. I am worried.
  
  Perhaps Bridges got to be leader due to his skills at playing politics within the party and has no political skills with the voting public.
  
  I strongly suspect he is way too full of himself and has spent his life associating only with those who he thought could benefit his career. As a result he has no feeling for people.
  
  I fear he is an arrogant smug snob and the public are going to hate him when they sense that.
  
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  July 11, 2018 6:58pm
- Happychappy
  
  Winstons lost for words when asked about census he has no answer for the low turnout in 2018. It must have hurt like hell to not be able to say thats what happens when the last lot under funded government identities for the last nine years. Mind you he could have had memory lapse and a couple of scotches tonight could put some fire back in the leeches belly.
  
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  July 11, 2018 7:19pm
nasska

RIP

The National Party Communications Team (Dec’d 2017)

“Always In Our Hearts”
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July 11, 2018 6:50pm
Manolo

Some European progressives are also freeloaders:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/trumps-nato-criticism-is-valid-europe-isnt-spending-enough-on-def.html

President Donald Trump is pushing other countries within the NATO military alliance to contribute more to their defense spending — and the U.K.’s former defense minister has told CNBC that he agrees.

“Half the alliance — 16 of the 29 countries — don’t even spend 1.5% (of gross domestic product) let alone 2% that we all agreed on four years ago at a NATO summit in Wales,” Michael Fallon, who served as secretary of state for defense from 2014 to 2017, said Tuesday.
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July 11, 2018 7:16pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  All defence ministers say that…after they leave office.
  The Brits need to face reality – they’ve built two aircraft carriers for which they cannot afford aircraft or personnel.
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:19pm
niggly

Looks like Parliament’s Liar/Genocide Defender has been caught out lying/exaggerating again – see the comments section & a number of well known people calling her out!

https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/status/1016830044671434752
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July 11, 2018 8:42pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Her claim:
  
  Being the first ever woman to hold the Defence portfolio in NZ Parliament (from any party!) puts me in interesting contexts. Very proud to voice @NZGreens opposition to NZ spending Billions on American war planes in a 20th Century arms race #NZPol
  
  There is, as someone pointed out on the Twitter thread, a difference between being the Defence Minister and a party spokesperson on defence issues. In any event, I wonder what “interesting contexts” she’s referring to, as she seems stuck in a “20th Century arms race” mindset. The rest of us have moved on to the 21st century!
  
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  July 11, 2018 8:54pm
  - nasska
    
    She should go down her knees every night & give thanks that:
    
    a) She was born with a vagina.
    
    b) The country that offered her sanctuary allows itself to be wrecked from within by herself & her globalist cohorts.
    
    c) Our gutless & partisan media won’t call her out as the liar & manipulator that she is.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:23pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

About 400000 people did not fill in 2018 census. They can each be fined $500 – which would yield about $200million. Should pay for a proper census to be done.
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July 11, 2018 8:58pm
- rangitoto
  
  Wont help much with the 17$B deficit.
  
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  July 11, 2018 9:27pm
  - sooty
    
    Pay for the nurses. Stuff the teachers.
    
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    July 11, 2018 9:30pm
Nostradamus

Civil servant in Spain skips work – for a decade

A civil servant has been handed a nine-year ban from public posts after it emerged he had been absent from his €50,000-a-year job for more than a decade.

Every weekday morning, Carles Recio, an archives director in Valencia’s provincial government, would turn up at his office only to clock in and head straight out again, before coming back at 4pm to clock out.

It was a routine he managed to maintain for 10 years until last year, when, after colleagues began to raise suspicions, he was finally fired.

So it took 10 years before his colleagues began to “raise suspicions”. Were they gliding in and out of the office too?
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July 11, 2018 9:03pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

This has been a really bad week for NZ left/media. A whole lot more otherwise disinterested NZers got their attention drawn to them lying their arses off about a couple of youtubers being Nazis and trying to justify attempts to silence free speech. With passions raised that is going to reach a whole lot more kiwi ears as those who got pissed off by the bullshit ad-homs and undermining of democratic ideals talk to friends and families.

In the age of the internet being caught in a lie kills your credibility forever.
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July 11, 2018 10:15pm
Monique Watson

Kiwi dollar is going to tank further.I’m picking 66c
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July 12, 2018 4:45am
Manolo

The hapless Merkel clashes with Trump.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-slams-captive-germany-nato-summit-081237901.html
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