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William of Ockham

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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44357243
Carbon ‘bubble’ could cost global economy trillions

A rapid reduction in demand for fossil fuels could see global economic losses of $1-4 trillion by 2035 according to a new report.

One recent study found that 20% of the world’s power plant capacity could become “stranded assets” if the Paris goal was met.

The authors say that by 2035, $1 trillion dollars could be wiped off the global economy if no new actions to limit warming to less than 2 degrees are taken. This could rise to $4 trillion if new policies to restrict emissions further are set.

“You don’t need to have anything for the stranding to happen, because what has already been done in the past is driving this phenomenon,” Prof Jorge Viñuales, study co-author from Cambridge University, told BBC News.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aabc5f/meta

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/05/australias-largest-windfarm-wins-planning-approval

The Queensland government has approved the country’s largest wind farm, a $1bn project to build almost 200 turbines in the shadow of the Bowen basin’s coalmines.

The 800-megawatt Clarke Creek project, in cattle country north-west of Rockhampton, received planning approval on Tuesday morning. The company behind the project, Lacour Energy, says it will create about 350 jobs during three years of construction and has the capacity to provide 3% of the generation required to power the entire state. It also includes a solar component.

The energy minister, Anthony Lynham, said $20bn in energy projects were in the pipeline, with projects worth $4.5bn already under way or with finance committed.

The Queensland government plans to reach 50% renewable energy generation by 2030.
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June 7, 2018 8:00am
- Nostradamus
  
  It’s William of Ockham – let’s go team!
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:02am
  - Longknives
    
    WoO is disappearing quicker than a sausage roll in Megan Wood’s office..
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:04am
    - RF
      
      Thankfully she has a standing order with the French bakery.
      
      More meat in a sausage roll so that’s the flavour of the week.
      
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      June 7, 2018 3:47pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Done my bit.
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:10am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I’ve done my bit too
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:16am
    - Nostradamus
      
      And at 8.17 am – after just 17 minutes – WoO has been booted. That must be a new record?
      
      (No pies were harmed during the short time that WoO was here.)
      
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      June 7, 2018 8:17am
      - William of Ockham
        
        https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44357243
        Carbon ‘bubble’ could cost global economy trillions
        
        A rapid reduction in demand for fossil fuels could see global economic losses of $1-4 trillion by 2035 according to a new report.
        
        One recent study found that 20% of the world’s power plant capacity could become “stranded assets” if the Paris goal was met.
        
        The authors say that by 2035, $1 trillion dollars could be wiped off the global economy if no new actions to limit warming to less than 2 degrees are taken. This could rise to $4 trillion if new policies to restrict emissions further are set.
        
        “You don’t need to have anything for the stranding to happen, because what has already been done in the past is driving this phenomenon,” Prof Jorge Viñuales, study co-author from Cambridge University, told BBC News.
        
        http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aabc5f/meta
        
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        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/05/australias-largest-windfarm-wins-planning-approval
        
        The Queensland government has approved the country’s largest wind farm, a $1bn project to build almost 200 turbines in the shadow of the Bowen basin’s coalmines.
        
        The 800-megawatt Clarke Creek project, in cattle country north-west of Rockhampton, received planning approval on Tuesday morning. The company behind the project, Lacour Energy, says it will create about 350 jobs during three years of construction and has the capacity to provide 3% of the generation required to power the entire state. It also includes a solar component.
        
        The energy minister, Anthony Lynham, said $20bn in energy projects were in the pipeline, with projects worth $4.5bn already under way or with finance committed.
        
        The Queensland government plans to reach 50% renewable energy generation by 2030.
        
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        June 7, 2018 8:19am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Ockham is back.
      We had him removed but now he’s popped up again. Same thing happened yesterday.
      I’m guessing that DPF has reset the 6 reports system to only remove comments for four hours.
      
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      June 7, 2018 12:37pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Captain Mainwaring
        
        Ockham is back.
        
        The anti-WoO pepper spray is still in the experimental phase. With a bit of refinement, and perhaps an increased toxicity level, we’ll dispatch him as many times as necessary!
        
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        June 7, 2018 2:23pm
rangitoto

At the trough.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104507399/outsourcing-government-the-55m-cost-of-reviews
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June 7, 2018 8:03am
- double d
  
  Wait for Ztev to come along and say National did it too wah wah wah
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:10am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    What does is say about a person that manages to get multiple arse cards from a very liberal blog comments section then as soon as each ban ends gets straight back on trolling and obfuscating?
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:20am
  - igm
    
    Ztrev, like all lazy lefty leeches, will still be in bed!
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:30am
    - axeman
      
      No booby will not have climbed off Caropotamus yet…
      
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      June 7, 2018 8:53am
  - ztev
    
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    Thanks for the intro
    all from beehive.govt.nz back in those months
    Dec08-Feb 09
    Taskforce to speed up emergency departments
    Investigation into load bearing timber frames
    Windfarm Board of Inquiry
    Planning for new police
    Overhaul of RMA & Aquaculture
    RMA Technical Advisory Group
    Taxi Industry Safety review
    Criminal Procedure (Simplification) Project
    NCEA standards review
    Review the Sentencing Act as it relates to violent crimes against children
    Ministerial Inquiry into the disclosure of the funding shortfall in ACC’s Non-Earners Account
    select committee to review the Emissions Trading Scheme
    Auditor General initiate an inquiry into the Ministry of Education school bus transport tendering process
    Regulatory review programme to identify and remove inefficient and superfluous regulation
    Review ECE regulations
    Prisoner Classification
    report on Waterview alternatives
    Ministerial Group to advise on improving the quality and performance of the public health system
    Enabling Territorial Authorities Act 2008 to be reviewed
    Ministerial Committee on Disability Issues
    Property Managers Review
    Review of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill
    
    which went on into Mar, April May 2009
    Nursing Council review
    investigate finfish and oyster farming opportunities in Northland
    Blue Cod Management Group
    Joint work programme to support rural GP’s.
    Regulatory Responsibility Taskforce
    Expert panel to oversee probation
    Review of legal aid
    review into electoral finance reform
    Technical Advisory Group advising on Electricity Market
    National Standards Reference Group
    National hui to progress Treaty settlement goal
    New Zealand and Japan are establishing a joint Officials Group
    Expert Panel on Veterans’ Health
    Maori reference group to develop a programme of action into Family Violence
    Defence Review
    Review of business assistance
    National Community Organisation Grants Scheme Committee
    Taxi Industry Safety
    Department of Corrections to review its policy into Razor Blades
    Auckland Social Policy Forum
    Ministerial Committee on Disability Issues
    Maori Advisory Committee to advise the Commissioner of Patents
    Review interface issues between the Historic Places Act and the Resource Management Act
    
    hehehehe
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:56am
    - Harkman
      
      Ha I think you’ll find that some of these were parliamentary operations in place from the Clark government. National was in office for one week in December before it was all closed down for the holidays and it is traditional both left and right for incoming minister to spend a month learning the ropes of their new warrants. Most of these are internal department reviews. Not outside reviews.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:06am
      - ztev
        
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        They were all new initiatives announced by national on beehive.govt.nz
        Sure a few may be standard bureacratic ‘love ins’ that could happen at any time, but same goes for items from the last 6 months.
        
        To me , no matter how obscure there often is pressure groups and donors pushing their barrow on many of these
        eg
        Property Managers Review
        Review of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill
        Those would pet causes of the real estate groups
        ‘Review interface issues between the Historic Places Act and the Resource Management Act’, another concern of building owners.
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:18am
    - softail 1450
      
      trev ,you lying sack of shit ,these reviews were strung out over years not 7 months ,fuck off .
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:11am
      - flipper
        
        If it looks like a duck, waddles and smells like one, it must be one. The only hope for zetev rests with soft brained idiots like him (assuming zetev has a real gender).
        Lordy, it must be painful to wake every morning with a brain so addled with whisky, tobacco and dyke spin that it is unbearable. But one lives in hope.
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:36am
      - ztev
        
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        No they werent
        The last one on the list which are in date order was May 2009
        Review interface issues between the Historic Places Act and the Resource Management Act
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/next-phase-rma-reform
        Was announced by the ever diligent Nick Smith
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:49am
    - thedavincimode
      
      I’ve been through that ztev, but can’t find details of the working group put together to close NZ’s oil and gas industry and increase global emissions.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:24am
      - Longknives
        
        (Larry Merchant voice) Big right hand there from the davincimode!
        Ztev is stumbling round on the ropes..
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:35am
      - ztev
        
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        So when they have working groups its a problem and when they dont have them its a problem too.
        
        Remember the ‘working group’ name was first used by national for its tax working group in 2009
        9 MAY 2009
        New Tax Working Group to assist government
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-tax-working-group-assist-government
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:54am
      - Biscuit
        
        Aah, longknives, I was gonna comment on your 9.35am reply to this with a ‘DOWN GOES, ZTEV!’ Boxing-like Comment and my (frozen) fingers hit REPORT instead!
        
        Please forgive me!
        
        Mr Farrar, kind sir, pray ignore my missive to you!
        
        :: Goes off to warm fingers up ::
        
        :: Was the weather ever this cold under that nice National-led last Government? ::
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:08am
      - thedavincimode
        
        ztev, I have to confess that I’m a little lost for words at the stupidity of your 9:54 am response and implied expectation that anyone would see it as anything more than an attempted chemtrail without any chem.
        
        I guess the best way to put it is to use a cricketing analogy: it’s like a bowler aiming at the stumps but instead firing it straight down to the wide mid-wicket boundary. I expect you’re a little bit rusty after your unsolicited holiday, but even so ….
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:57am
      - Piniwi
        
        @thedavincimode even funnier is when people already on the taxpayer payroll are paid additional extra exorbitant amounts to be on these committees.
        
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        June 7, 2018 12:47pm
    - dime
      
      oh god, this cocksucker is back.
      
      how boring.
      
      hopefully the next ban is a year.. or forever
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:30am
      - ztev
        
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        I can see us next on dancing with the stars- Im very good at the tango
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:56am
      - thedavincimode
        
        It’ll give you a chance to show off those fish net stockings ztev.
        
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        June 7, 2018 11:00am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        My freedom of speech PoV is wavering. OK SoB and WoO: offend me all you like, but don’t bore me to death…
        
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        June 7, 2018 12:56pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      So lets have a look at ya list, comes to mind,
      There are only 47 on this list Labour are just about cracking 120
      National’s include routine reviews That happen on a regular basis regardless of who’s govt.
      Regulation review
      Defense review
      Legal aid
      etc
      Then several on reviews forced on them by the previous govt.
      EFA review
      Investigation reviews on SPECIFIC regulations/laws to be introduced ie standard practice BEFORE writing a proposal.
      The difference between Nationals list and Labours list.
      Nationals is a list of ACTIONS to be taken or investigated, where the tone, direction and goals are all set by the Minister RESPONSIBLE (note this word)
      Labours list is a fishing expedition, HOPING TO FIND, a tone, direction and goal, so the IRRESPONSIBLE minister concerned can CLAIM it as their own.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:31am
      - ztev
        
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        Were similar numbers for both lists.
        I didnt want to bore you with the full details
        but here they are
        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f6wGvy1KkR08oFeNx97VKfOmHSHL-ZehnuACutUvNRo/edit#gid=0
        
        This one was my favourite as it went nowhere and people died, a review of drinking water standards
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/meeting-challenges-facing-local-government-over-next-20-years
        It’s also clear that we have ridiculous new drinking water standards that are putting a huge cost on to rural councils and therefore the communities they serve. So they’re also under review.
        
        That minister, the ever useless Rodney Hide wanted to lower drinking water standards.
        Havelock North salutes you Rodney Hide for you lowering of drinking water standards
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:03am
    - mandk
      
      Many of those were routine actions of gov’t.
      
      Besides, the number is way smaller than the number of special working groups the CoL has set up.
      
      hehehehe
      
      Run along now. Jacinda has got the play dough ready for you.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:55am
      - ztev
        
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        Play dough ?
        
        Like the review of the meth contamination ‘standards’
        
        It seems like maybe $50 mill plus was wasted on that alone as the Health ministry was saying all along its the meth LAB standard but “Sir Bill” & TSW Paula had different ideas.
        So much for lie of ‘wrong advice’
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:07am
- alloytoo
  
  One would imagine that this government would be ideologically opposed to outsourcing.
  
  However, this isn’t so much outsourcing as jobs for mates, which will be followed by Cadre deployment.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:55am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    “One would imagine that this government would be ideologically opposed to outsourcing.”
    and complained bitterly for 9 long years about the level of out sourcing and consultants used under National.
    Labour—>it’s spelt H Y P O C R I S Y.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:36am
- Yvette
  
  Perhaps Labour could publish a list, and National could do the same.
  Then everyone might see who is not telling the truth, because with such different answers, one of them, or both, are not.
  
  An analysis by Stuff puts the number of reviews at 31, with 10 inquiries, and 27 working groups.
  
  The National Party puts the cost even higher – with a $114m price tag for 122 working groups and 45 reviews. Leader Simon Bridges said that’s bringing about “a slow death by consultants.”
  
  His party’s costing, released on Thursday, includes the establishment of government departments like the Pike River Recovery Agency and the Social Investment Agency, and reviews that are required by legislation or enacted by the previous government.
  
  The Government has pushed back, saying it counts 38 reviews. Of those, 29 are costed with a $34m price tag. They say that in the long-run, it works out at four cents for every $100 of government spending.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:20am
  - ztev
    
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    How much did the Flag referendums and experts group cost ?
    Was it $30 mill
    
    That was another case when decision was made firts by Key ( without discussion) and the cabinet paperwork came later.
    https://www.dpmc.govt.nz/our-programmes/special-programmes/flag-consideration-project
    
    Decision was announced 11 March 2014 in speech by Key
    cabinet papers came in Oct 2014
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:25am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Yes….referendums and experts.
      ie investigations, with clearly defined goals and targets RESULTING in a referendum (vote).
      NONE of Labours consultant groups/working groups have “clearly defined goals” they are there to come up with clearly defined goals.
      So they are outsourcing the decision making of parliament. (ie their jobs) and still collecting their salaries.
      Maybe we should all send our unemployed neighbour to our work place, to do our jobs for us, then get the boss to pay for both?
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:42am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        The working groups established by the CoL do have clearly defined goals, whispered sotto voce to the ideologically sound members of said working groups, just nothing on paper.
        
        However their real purpose is two fold:
        1/ Buy the CoL time to figure out what the fuck they are doing, and hide the fact that they spent 9 years in opposition with their thumbs up their arses howling at the moon instead of doing their homework and figuring out policy.
        2/ Provide cover and bodies to blame for the woeful policy that they will attempt to foist on NZ at a result of this swillstraveganza.
        
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        June 7, 2018 1:24pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Do you mean the flag referendum that Labour originally thought was a good idea and when Key went for it they then did a U-turn?
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:43am
      - ztev
        
        They could see what the voters already knew, but Key didnt
        labour does polling too, why support Keys rigged vanity project
        
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        June 7, 2018 11:22am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Ztev isn’t always wrong. It was a monumental waste of money and ‘referendum energy’ that could have been used for far more important issues.
        
        The fact that Labour initially wanted the flag referendum surely shows how silly it was!
        
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        June 7, 2018 1:01pm
    - Albert_Ross
      
      If your objection to the flag referendum was that it cost money, can we take it that you think it would have been better if Key, or maybe Key with the agreement of cabinet, had just chosen a new flag design themselves and used their majority to get it through Parliament? That would have cost far less money.
      
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      June 7, 2018 1:29pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        After all JA didn’t even go that far with the oil and Gas decision.
        
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        June 7, 2018 5:08pm
- Liberty
  
  The lefties wet themselves with despair over the cost of the flag debate.
  Which will be small change. After the full cost of this review gravy train
  Becomes known. That is if the true cost is made public.
  Labour has history of paying for excessive amounts for a report
  that achieved nothing.
  Take the Ingram report for example. A very expensive door stop.
  Word around the traps at the time. Labours child mp
  Used it as foot step so he could be seen when spouting his socialist
  venom in the house.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:49pm
artemisia

So drug users in state houses will not be evicted, but they will be offered addiction services, initiated in some way by Housing New Zealand.

Since addiction services are currently stretched, or overstretched, a lot more resources will be needed. Included more resource for Housing New Zealand. And the relapse rate is high – between 40% and 60% some sources say.

So far so good, I guess. Better to do something than nothing.

But consider the impact on say the Unitec high density housing development. 20% social housing and the remaining 80% to be purchasers, either through Kiwibuild or private developers.

How many drug users – current, in rehab, relapsed – would it take to put buyers right off buying there? I suggest not many. And let’s not forget that almost half of applicants on the social housing list are single adults, no children, and many will have issues, including addictions. One of the criteria for getting enough points to get onto the list in the first place is difficulty obtaining private rental housing, including recent release from prison.

And some of those drug users will be desperate enough to set up shop (or worse), with all the ‘traffic’ that entails.

I foresee OIA requests to Housing NZ to obtain number of tenants referred to addiction services, possibly in specific locations. And since this is to be an official function of Housing NZ, there will be actual numbers in the annual reports. Won’t there?

Not going to end well.
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June 7, 2018 8:04am
- oldgolfer
  
  Certainly won’t. And now there is talk of compensation, which will no doubt have meth makers and sellers rubbing their hands.
  The last time I looked, meth was highly addictive and illegal. FFS.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:13am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Got to be very careful not to upset Labour/Green voters.
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:15am
  - hullkiwi
    
    And Red Radio are still pushing their campaign for the evicted to be compensated.
    
    Clearly, someone didn’t pick up on Cindy’s hint.
    
    That is, “not all the evictions were for just smoking meth, but also included other anti-social behaviour” Jacinda Ardern, RNZ Morning Report, Wednesday 6th June 2018.
    
    She also went on to say the circumstances of each case would need to be investigated.
    
    Message to newse ditors at Red Radio:
    1. smoking meth is a criminal activity.;
    2. Tenancy agreements say you may be evicted for committing a crime in Housing Corp houses;
    3. It is not a requirement of the government of NZ, to compensate people if their criminal actions lead them to suffering a loss.
    So, do kiwi taxpayers a favour either drop the campaign or you & Twitford can pay the compensation out of your own pockets, leave me & other taxpayers out of it.
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:56am
    - KevOB
      
      Try suing for self inflicted losses arising out of criminal activity. Not a goer.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:07am
      - artemisia
        
        Tenants can apply to the Tenancy Tribunal if not out of time, or counter claim if a current case is brought by Housing NZ.
        
        New cases will now not be for eviction if meth contamination is the only claim. Still, even a quick look at TT decisions indicates rent arrears and/or damage in many cases and they remain cause to apply for eviction.
        
        What we don’t yet know is whether any case will be brought for eviction if there is also evidence of drug use. Or whether tenants will be allowed to carry on as before – drugs, rent arrears, damage … – but be offered counselling and addiction treatment.
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:38am
      - MCos
        
        Are they being evicted for criminal behavior or because of meth contamination?
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:02am
    - kowtow
      
      The compo can come out of RNZ’s budget , that would shut em up.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:20am
    - MCos
      
      From what I understand there were three houses where the tenants were booted out because of meth contamination.
      This was the reason given, not illegal behavior or whatever else that contravenes the tenancy agreement.
      Sure some of the tenants may have indulged in illegal drug taking. If every landlord in the country chucked his tenants out because he suspected they’d been taking drugs there would be turmoil.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:59am
      - artemisia
        
        I posted in GD yesterday 5 random cases from the Tenancy Tribunal database using search term ‘methamphetamine’ and Party ‘Housing New Zealand’.
        
        Random because they were the first 5 on the list. The search returned many more results, not necessarily relating to an eviction.
        
        Thing is, the actual decisions were very detailed in each case, and had complexities, sometimes several with supporting evidence (and opinion).
        
        I included the site address and the application numbers so people could see for themselves.
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:37am
      - hullkiwi
        
        MCos not quite, you don’t need a conviction for a crime to act. If as the owner of the house (i.e. you are the landlord), you have good grounds to believe & know a crime is being committed on your premises, then under the Crimes Act you are obligated to report it (else you could be deemed & charged for aiding & abetting) the committing of a crime to the police. If you do that, then the relevant clauses in a tenancy agreement can be invoked.
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:55am
      - MCos
        
        My point is that there must must be untold rental properties in NZ where dope is smoked, cocaine is snorted etc and the landlord knows, but doesn’t want the hassle of evicting the tenant on that basis alone.
        In the case of state houses I’m sure the same is true.
        These three hundred ( not three) were chucked out because of some scam by vested interests essentially.
        
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        June 7, 2018 12:00pm
    - Piniwi
      
      But hullkiwi there are even more long term ramifications likely to surface going forward as tenants will think it is now ok to smoke meth in their state house. Leading to immense damage for other in the house from second hand smoke and in the case of children adding to the number of difficult children turning up at schools. The domino effect is big in this one but there is an inquiry already looking into this issue of problem children who a mostly meth effected. Lol
      
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      June 7, 2018 1:27pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Yes. How many stories does Red Radio run each year about Grandma having to step in to look after the Tamariki. This is because daughter (or son) with the partner are stoned on meth and the kids are in danger in the home. I recall there being a conference last year in the Hawkes Bay over this issue.
        As you correctly point out there is also the issue of secondary smoke & toxins. At personal level my son is in a class with the child of the local junkie. This child often is sent to school hungry & stoned. When he is stoned he is violent & angry.
        
        Then we get fools like Twitford who for political purposes is happy to politicised the issue of meth smoking as though it is an acceptable norm. The fool needs to live in the real world!
        
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        June 7, 2018 5:59pm
  - tf78
    
    Why should the tax payers compensate people who paid for remedial work with tax payers money anyway.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:31am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I hope the compensation will extend to landlords who have been worked over by the tenancy tribunal for failing to provide a safe and clean environment for tenants.
    Refunds of awards and costs, with additional compensation for feelz, please.
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:25am
- milkmaid
  
  So they are going to continue testing the houses?
  
  Where will all the addiction services required come from? As far as I am aware, it is difficult to access these even for people who desperately want to. And treating people who don’t want treatment is largely a waste of time and money, sometimes even dangerous as they tend to OD on release.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:36am
  - KevOB
    
    Some OD during treatment or attempt suicide.
    
    Psycho talkathons can be very disturbing to mental health. There are 200 different modalities recognised for psychological treatment. The American professional body had an inquiry into their professional effectiveness a few years ago and found that 10 years were the same irrespective of diagnosis.
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:20pm
- KiWombat
  
  The Mt Albert site is adjacent to the Auckland Drug Rehab centre, so I can imagine families will be lining up for accommodation to be close to whanau !
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:36am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Mmmm. I recall talking to someone about the (then) new prison at Milton, down south, foolishly suggesting the extra jobs etc would be good for the small town.
    He told me he had no problem with the prison, its staff or even the prisoners, only the throng of hangers-on who suddenly found Milton the place to be so they could be near their incarcerated loved ones.
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:44am
- KevOB
  
  There used to be a wait of several months for drug counselling. The quality was random and group psychotherapy can be very hazardous to mental health.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:56am
- Fletch
  
  If I was feeling jaded, I’d say that this whole meth thing was to free up housing for the govt’s housing scheme.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:02am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Perhaps realistic rather than jaded.
    After all Mr Twyford can’t get houses available any other way.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:42am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      “Twyford can’t get houses available any other way”
      
      Not so.
      
      There is a boom in HNZ units being built as we speak, but not so sure Twitford can take and credit (although he undoubtedly will try)
      
      These things have been pipelined for some time.
      
      Key got his car egged in the ‘nui for turning up to explain how ripping down the units the ferals had vandalised and replacing them with warm dry modern practical ones was to their advantage.
      
      Now the building is underway there are security guards at the building sites to stop the wholesale thievery and as fast as new sites are completed, the smashing of letterboxes and fences commences.
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:33am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        My point exactly TWYFORD isn’t building them.
        
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        June 7, 2018 10:48am
      - KevOB
        
        Have the COL-sheep returned too?
        KB must be having an affect. The COL cannot tolerate dissent–it can make them violent.
        
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        June 7, 2018 12:22pm
  - ztev
    
    Why is Soimun apologising then and saying ‘we got the wrong advice from officials’- which is a lie
    Is he doing it to make Twyford look good or that English and Bennett screwed it up badly
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:24am
- Right of way is Way of Right
  
  What with Phil Twitford harping on about how new Housing NZ units are going to be in all neighbourhoods, and that anyone who doesn’t like it can move to Pokeno, now we find out that you might have P addicts moving in next to you, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
  
  If you’re a nett taxpayer, (like I am) and you voted for this lot, (unlike me!) then co out and give yourself an uppercut.
  
  Even better, find a NZ First voter and give them one!
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:28am
- Surely Knott
  
  Labour Green voters are being very critical of the previous government for requiring remediation of Meth Houses when science now shows it was excessive and the trace elements were safe to live with. But I wonder how many of the labour green voters criticising the previous government buy organic vegetables, organic baby foods, gluten free or dairy free products when they have no medical condition or eco cleaning products with less chemicals for their own home, even though the standard products are all safe as required by law.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:47am
  - hullkiwi
    
    SK, stop trying to burst the deluded bubbles of the virtue signalling Greenies & Libtards. You’ll hurt their feelings!
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:09am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    And woe betide anyone who adds fluoride in the water to save the nation’s teeth.
    
    Fluoride evil, Meth ok???
    Tobacco evil, Pot ok???
    Eating meat evil, leather sandals ok???
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:23pm
- Piniwi
  
  @artemisia we also need to remember the last Labour Government had an early release plan for people in institutions. All the funny farms were closed in part they too were neglected and in disrepair jut like a lot of state housing stock. We must ask if being among those who flew over of the cookoo nests will place them higher up the list with a higher points tally?
  In the rush to spend the healthy surplus the COL boosted accommodation supplements again without any serious consideration of the cause and effect ratio. So the Fool Factor kicks in from the start as it causes many to slide down the waiting list being the effects of loosing points. These are deducted as they now have more available funds to seek private rentals. Thus multiplying the Fool Factor again after they have reduced the number of private renters as a result of targeting landlords who they forget help to provide more rentals.
  
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  June 7, 2018 1:17pm
Andrei

Whoops

When you talk about Germany, we have a very strong relationship with the Government of Germany. Looking back in the history books, today is the 71st anniversary of the speech that announced the Marshall Plan. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the D-Day invasion. We obviously have a very long history with the Government of Germany, and we have a strong relationship with the government, and so we want to reaffirm the strength of our relationship with Germany.

Heather Nauert at the White House Press briefing yesterday trying to sooth German hurt feelings over comments made by the American Ambassador to Germany in Berlin a couple of days ago
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June 7, 2018 8:06am
Monique Watson

Tamihere is sucking dick:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12062926
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June 7, 2018 8:08am
- KevOB
  
  JT’s comments are reasonable. Unfortunately Winston seems to be failing. The next few weeks will be very interesting.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:03am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You must have laughed at this tho’
  
  “Winston in 2008 was a political cadaver. But in 2011, his political tribe bought him back to life.”
  
  Wonder how much his political tribe shelled out.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:26am
  - kowtow
    
    Who edits at that rag ?
    
    Bought , for brought !
    
    Maybe he was “bought” back , with OPM.
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:51am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    “vote for him or against him” – hilarious: so few people in that first category…
    
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    June 7, 2018 1:16pm
Lee C

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Knock Knock.
Who’s there?
Her Majesty’s Opposition.
Her Majesty’s Opposition, who?

… Sorry, there is no punchline.
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June 7, 2018 8:10am
- VicParking
  
  If thats is all your got, go back to the Standard
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:19am
  - Harkman
    
    No freedom of speech over there, hence the visit.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:11am
  - KevOB
    
    It feels like Standard Hate Week. That’s KB success. The stroppyness of the COL mob shows effectiveness. Like unionists at barricades they cannot tolerate anything other than getting their own way. Don’t we have prisoners behaving like that? Those people have no capacity to govern.
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:29pm
- kowtow
  
  The punchline is the “opposition” got the largest block of support in the country ,as opposed to the regime who are being kept in power by an extremist minority of loons.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:54am
- Harkman
  
  Don’t worry the people Angry Andy is hell bent on letting out won’t knock on the front door, and soon you’ll be wishing that Her Majesty’s Opposition has another more prestigious title.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:10am
secondcumming

It could be a perilous walk to school…..

A ‘3 striker’ in waiting, one of this country’s worst sex offenders, convicted child rapist *Lloyd McIntosh*, could be moved to a property just meters away from a Primary School

This filthy pedo’s crimes include *sexual connection with a 23 month-old baby and raping a 6yo child*

He needs to take drugs to control his ‘sex drive’ 🙁

Read it and weep…..

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1004299075842289670
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June 7, 2018 8:11am
- VicParking
  
  Littles got a spare room in his house
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:20am
- stephieboy
  
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  secondcumming, ar least one” consolation” for our rabid righter penologists he is ‘ not a” Muuri”.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:20am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Your point?
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:22am
    - Harkman
      
      Remember, he never has a point. He and ztev are paid political trolls.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:13am
      - G152
        
        Not much value for their money there then
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:43am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Another irrelevant “whataboutism” from the resident galah.
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:35am
- Classic Liberal
  
  This might wake up a few Leftie voters!
  
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  June 7, 2018 1:21pm
- RF
  
  It’s all over rover. Corrections have backed down.
  
  It will be interesting to see what their plan B is.
  
  Being such a caring soul the SLG might offer her spare bedroom.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:16pm
kowtow

Why the state must ensure criminals stay in prison for meaningful sentences .

‘Widow, 100, who moved to Britain from Poland after Second World War dies after breaking neck in mugging’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/06/polish-widow-100-moved-britain-second-world-war-dies-breaking/
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June 7, 2018 8:11am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  There should be a warning that you have to be careful not to break your neck in a mugging.
  
  Victim-blaming anyone?
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:25pm
Justitia

New Zealand 2050: Islamic caliphate or province of China? Too hard to call.
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June 7, 2018 8:11am
- stephieboy
  
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  Justita , an Islamic caliphate or province of China?
  
  How?
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:21am
  - pentwig
    
    if only you had a brain sillyboy you could work it out yourself but you are as thick as choppers’ belly currently
    
    sigh!
    LOL
    
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    June 7, 2018 8:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  为人民服务
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:33am
  - Harkman
    
    الكفار
    
    Sounds more scary.
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:33am
    - Justitia
      
      Yes, the morning prayer at HRC team meetings.
      
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      June 7, 2018 5:11pm
      - Harkman
        
        ? far too funny?I wonder what Valerie Jarrett thinks?
        
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        June 7, 2018 5:17pm
stephieboy

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Just 10 more sleeps until the nation’s babe enters this world.

Remember just 10 more nights of sleep!.

I vote that we who post here ( including PDF ) solemnly )undertake to act as honorary godparents!

Submit names, please. My Choice : If a girl, Kate ( after Kate Shepherd ) and a boy, Michael after the founder of our much-cherished welfare state, ( Michael Joesph Savage )
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June 7, 2018 8:13am
- rangitoto
  
  Taxi Taxindaface
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:18am
- Nostradamus
  
  Stephieboy:
  
  the nation’s babe
  
  I vote that we who post here ( including PDF ) solemnly )undertake to act as honorary godparents!
  
  Your vote doesn’t count for much here. Maybe try your luck with honeypots at St Lukes instead?
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:21am
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    Nostradamus , yoru vote out there in the real world of NZ society ( where it matters ) counts for zilch.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:28am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      What makes you think your vote for the national bastard’s godparents is worth anything at all?
      
      Were you the moron who rang the news desk to report that the Solomon Islands PM’s motorcade was SLG speeding to the maternity annexe this morning?
      
      Sqwark
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:52am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      It’s good you’re here as we have lots of things to discuss. Have you spotted a good pair of “small but ample breasts” at St Lukes recently? Have you found any more naked photos of President Trump’s daughter that you’d like to share on Kiwiblog? Oh yes – and have you solved the mysterious case of the notice posted on the St Albans door telling the world that you’re a “pervert” (the word was in block capitals if I recall correctly) – or should we call in Tintin (the cartoon character) to give you a hand?
      
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      June 7, 2018 2:31pm
- axeman
  
  Is Horsey McHorseface taken yet Walphy?
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:56am
  - Longknives
    
    I will bet anything that the Virtue Signalling Queen will give her kid a Maori name..
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:15am
- Harkman
  
  I hope it arrives on Trump’s birthday and he sends it The Art of the Deal, a free meal coupon at Mar-a-Lago and some of his ties as a gift. ??? just to rile up those lefty snowflakes.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:18am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Yes! And in 30 years, just to piss of its parents, it becomes a solid conservative politician who cleverly applies the Art of the Deal.
    
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    June 7, 2018 1:24pm
- softail 1450
  
  septicboy , i dont think its a baby, i suspect it actually all piss and wind ,not unlike you.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:39am
Inandout

The gay guy in the car on Garner loves Jacinda because she is doing great things for NZ. FFS!
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June 7, 2018 8:14am
- Longknives
  
  “The gay guy in the car on Garner”
  
  Fnarr Fnarr..
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:13am
- dubya
  
  Is that the fat little dune coon?
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:21am
  - Lance
    
    Not cool
    Leave the racist name calling to the lefties
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:57am
G152

During the teachers coming strike how about we use the power of the Internet and teach kids via computers.
So, when the useless sods get back to ‘work’ they’re not needed ?
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June 7, 2018 8:22am
- Chris R
  
  I am looking forwards to the teachers’ unions strikes as it will mean a few days amnesty for the children of NZ from being marinated with Marxist garbage from small minded “professionals.” Perhaps permanent strike action by teachers would be the best thing for all NZ children?
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:44am
  - MCos
    
    The people next door to me who seemed to scream and yell at their kids throughout the school holidays probably disagree with you!
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:18am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      yep, teachers are defacto mental health workers. Without them a lot of parents couldn’t cope.
      
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      June 7, 2018 1:38pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Please don’t use the word “professional” and “teacher” in the same comment.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:50am
    - Chris R
      
      RW: Fair enough…the inverted commas were to denote my sarcasm. Any person who claims to be a “professional” then screams and whines through a trades union is anything but a professional.
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:03am
Captain Mainwaring

William of Ockham gone in a flash.
Well done team.
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June 7, 2018 8:27am
- alex Masterley
  
  Veni, Vidi, downticked!
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:41am
- stephieboy
  
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  Captain Mainwaring ,”well-done “Team Morons
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:00am
  - axeman
    
    And how long before you take it up the pooper and you disappear? Should have gone to your sanctuary at St Albans today. Walphy
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:18am
  - thedavincimode
    
    That’s a really good one pervie boy. You certainly saw him off.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:26am
- kevn
  
  @CM…. Wocks post yday about the sandeels around Shetland was ok. Been there and observed the decline in Puffins. Appalling overfishing main cause.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:22am
Fletch

Every day more evidence comes out to show that Obama was one of the worst presidents the U.S ever had…

Obama misled Congress, tried and failed to give Iran secret access to US banks before the deal

The Obama administration secretly sought to give Iran access — albeit briefly — to the U.S. financial system by sidestepping sanctions kept in place after the 2015 nuclear deal, despite repeatedly telling Congress and the public it had no plans to do so.

An investigation by Senate Republicans released Wednesday sheds light on the delicate balance the Obama administration sought to strike after the deal.

Under Obama, the Treasury Department issued a license in February 2016, never previously disclosed, that would have allowed Iran to convert $5.7 billion it held at a bank in Oman from Omani rials into euros by exchanging them first into U.S. dollars.

The banks refused to deal with Iran despite Obama asking them to.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-misled-congress-secretly-broke-sanctions-for-iran-before-the-deal-2018-6/?r=AU&IR=T

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/republican-investigation-finds-that-obama-administration-misled-congress-on-possible-iranian-access-to-us-financial-system/2018/06/05/dcb38c78-68c7-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html
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June 7, 2018 8:28am
- igm
  
  Be careful what you say about Obama, it may offend Wayne Muppet!
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:44am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Igm , you yet another Birther idiot?
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:04am
- stephieboy
  
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  Fletch,
  
  “Republican investigation finds …”
  
  No doubt non partisan impeccably impartial hearing both sides of the allegations?
  
  LOL
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:03am
  - big bruv
    
    stephie
    
    Speaking of investigations, how are things coming along with the Labour party sex camp investigations?
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:07am
    - Longknives
      
      “How are things coming along with the Labour party sex camp investigations?”
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP1bIU-xHSQ
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:12am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Brilliant
        
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        June 7, 2018 9:43am
    - GazzaW
      
      ……about as much progress as the Dazza Hughes incident investigations.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:27am
      - Inandout
        
        Dazza has a finger in the pie with this CoL.
        
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        June 7, 2018 11:51am
      - sooty
        
        That’s not his finger!
        
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        June 7, 2018 12:24pm
      - Piniwi
        
        @GazzaW MeTu has been let off the hook as it is not in the “broader public interest” or some such platitude.
        
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        June 7, 2018 1:47pm
- MickMac
  
  Treasonous shit.
  
  Obama bends over backwards to aid Islam expansionist Iran.
  Gave unparalleled access to Muslim Brotherhood fronts to WH, State, DoD.
  
  Likely directed the FBI stinker at Trump or ordered Jarrett to do it.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:52pm
VicParking

Simon Wilson from the failing Newspaper has come out and said the bye-election is a close call. Well if your newspaper promotes just one candidate (Guess who?) and does not cover the local Labour Party fiasco’s what more can you expect. If the National candidate had to be escorted out of a mall for abusing the mall manager, “Do you know who I am”, it would have been on the front page. How low can you go.
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June 7, 2018 8:29am
- oldgolfer
  
  And even in the story TV did on the Nat, the Labour clown was in shot for most of the time.
  Why aren’t National’s press secretaries banging on desks?
  Perhaps they are, but you’d never know.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:01am
  - KevOB
    
    This is rabble rouser territory, not press secretaries.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:11am
- Harkman
  
  “How low can you go”
  
  Well yesterday Tom Scott went even lower, publishing a cartoon of Trump pigging out on breakfast cereal looking at a carton of milk with Melania on it saying she looked familiar. She was recovering from a treatment to remove tumours from her kidneys and as timing would have it she was back at work meeting Gold Star families hours before the Press was delivered. The guy is a disgrace, I bet he wouldn’t do a similar cartoon with Cindy’s face on it 3 weeks after giving birth.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:37am
  - kevn
    
    @Hark… tom scott is another F I G J A M type.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:42am
    - Harkman
      
      Ha, just checking what F I G J A M stands for ? yes he would tell us about it, ha, classic.
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:49am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Tom Scott is about 50% of the reason I stopped reading the DimPost.
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:53am
      - Inandout
        
        Me as well, and the news that they and the Herald report is straight from CNN. Scott is a very bitter old man with not an ounce of talent left. I bet he still dines out on the time Muldoon ordered him out of the Press room; sad really.
        
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        June 7, 2018 11:55am
  - Piniwi
    
    But Harkman what a gift for a cartoonist to feature the contortins of birthing and it could even include one of her special pained expressions. on her face.
    
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    June 7, 2018 1:50pm
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      Imagine her teeth in labour?? “Push!” “Push!”
      
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      June 7, 2018 5:22pm
Fletch

Quote for today –

“The Old Paganism had a strong sense of the supernatural. This sense was often turned to the wrong objects and always to insufficient objects, but it was keen and unfailing; all the poetry of the Old Paganism, even where it despairs, has this sense. And you may read in those of its writers who actively opposed religion, such as Lucretius, a fine religious sense of dignity and order. The New Paganism delights in superficiality, and conceives that it is rid of the evil as well as the good in what it believes to have been superstitions and illusions…

Men do not live long without gods; but when the gods of the New Paganism come they will not be merely insufficient, as were the gods of Greece, nor merely false; they will be evil.”

– Hilaire Belloc –
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June 7, 2018 8:31am
- stephieboy
  
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  Fletch.
  “The New Paganism delights in superficiality, and conceives that it is rid of the evil as well as the good in what it believes to have been superstitions and illusions…”
  
  Straight out of Team Trump election primer?
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:07am
  - Jack5
    
    There’s something to be said to waiting until noon to read Kiwiblog.
    
    The Stephiestani Troll Syndicate by then seems to have lapsed into silent isolation, dreaming of their Paradise, and billions of years with their personal swarm of renewable virgins. Only a goat-shagger could fail to see this would make sex boring. Jeez, not another 70 roots today! And at least another billion years of it.
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:52am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      A billion years is a blink in the eye of eternity. An eternity of anything would be hell.
      
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      June 7, 2018 1:43pm
Monique Watson

Interest rates aren’t going up in the U.S, you tit:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12064820

Proof that someone can walk in as a chief economist and know nothing at all. Interest rates will only go up in New Zealand due to Aussie plundering.
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June 7, 2018 8:48am
- ztev
  
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  And then there is the reality
  The US central bank – the Federal Reserve – is hiking rates. So far the Fed has lifted rates six times since late 2016 – from and unprecedented low near zero.
  Duh
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:02am
  - Harkman
    
    And what happens when they start going up here? Bye, bye second term ? landslide to national.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:20am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Our rates are locked in way less. If you check out the 5/1 ARM rates. You really don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:22am
  - Harkman
    
    You’re a liar, you are trying to make out interest rates going up because of Trump, wrong, false. As you will see FFRs were set between 0.00-0.25% between Dec 2008 and Nov 2015 before slowly rising. Considering they spent 2013-2015 unwinding the quantitative easing.
    
    2015-11-01 0.12
    2015-12-01 0.24
    2016-01-01 0.34
    2016-02-01 0.38
    2016-03-01 0.36
    2016-04-01 0.37
    2016-05-01 0.37
    2016-06-01 0.38
    2016-07-01 0.39
    2016-08-01 0.40
    2016-09-01 0.40
    2016-10-01 0.40
    2016-11-01 0.41
    2016-12-01 0.54
    2017-01-01 0.65
    2017-02-01 0.66
    2017-03-01 0.79
    2017-04-01 0.90
    2017-05-01 0.91
    2017-06-01 1.04
    2017-07-01 1.15
    2017-08-01 1.16
    2017-09-01 1.15
    2017-10-01 1.15
    2017-11-01 1.16
    2017-12-01 1.30
    2018-01-01 1.41
    2018-02-01 1.42
    2018-03-01 1.51
    2018-04-01 1.69
    2018-05-01 1.70
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:07am
    - ztev
      
      How much in time since Trump , the 18 months
      01-17 till now is (1.70-0.65) =1.05%
      
      12 months? before Trump
      (0.54-.12) which is 0.42
      So the evidence is interest rates are rising faster since Trump
      
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      June 7, 2018 11:32am
      - Harkman
        
        Not correct Bernanke-Yellen and Co weren’t sure of the legality of negative interest rates, they probably had no mandate to do so because the various regional branches of the Federal Reserve Banks are part privately owned and thus shareholders would have to lose money and would likely sue for compensation. So they used quantitative easing to set interest rates alternatively at the equivalent of -3.00% or even -4.00% to steepen the yield curve. So in truth from mid-2013 to JANUARY WHEN TRUMP WAS SWORN IN (the FFRS was @ 0.65%) interest rates had actually increased 3.65%-4.65% by this stage, just the average person never saw this.
        
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        June 7, 2018 11:54am
AgainstTheFlow

Radio New Zealand’s Morning Report – where the middle class sense of entitlement gets fostered and re-enforced.
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June 7, 2018 8:49am
- ztev
  
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  And we hear about the collosal confusion and errors at EQC after 9 years of national control.
  Housing crisis- its official at last says Soimun
  M Bovis, badly handled and a mistakes by national who refused to fully implement and make compulsory/enforce the NAIT scheme in spite of it being introduced when Jim Anderton was agriculture minister !
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:06am
peterwn

Tenancy tribunal has just reheard a case where a diplomat left a property with unpaid rent and damage. The re-hearing resulted from a claim that the diplomat had diplomatic immunity and was therefore subject to a tribunal hearing.
If the Tribunal decides at the rehearing that this the case and the diplomat is not liable, this will turn renting to diplomats on its head – any landlord would have to be crazy renting to a diplomat. And with other things it would be cash on the nail.
Surprising the diplomatic community has not sorted this out since they are the ones going to suffer (OK for Ambassadors as they generally have houses owned by their nations, but would affect their diplomatic staffs dependent on renting).
Even more surprising it is a EU diplomat (the EU has diplomatic representation in NZ even though its constituent nations are also represented) who is allegedly delinquent.
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June 7, 2018 8:57am
- ztev
  
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  Tenancy tribunal can and does carve its own way and doesnt have to strictly follow the law and precedent and can give a result that gives ‘justice’
  Baffling that the EU doesnt waiver diplomatic immunity just for this instance and tell the employee to pay up.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:10am
  - KevOB
    
    How do you ever get through life with your mixed up notions about almost everything?
    You plainly take delight in seeing disorder in all around you. Is this the fate of COL followers or is there worse to come?
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:18am
    - kevn
      
      @KevOB… z is/they are just hankering to join the septicboy and Wock club maxxing out red ticks. Might even be a competition? Race to the bottom. Go for it.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:46am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Probably because, like all bureaucrats (but EU ones especially), they think they are entitled to free rent from you peasants.
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:37am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ‘Surprising the diplomatic community has not sorted this out’ in no way suggested waiving diplomatic immunity. I’m sure with a quick cash collection they could easily pay the debt and give landlords the sense that there is some kind of safety net when renting to diplomats.
    
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    June 7, 2018 1:42pm
big bruv

Feel like breaking into the house of two young females? No worries, you are free to do so, you may even be awarded a place in the NZ national rugby team.
It does make me wonder, if the reward for home invasion is a starting place in the worlds most over hyped team, what crime would a gormless fuckhead from Taranaki have to commit to become captain of that team?
BTW, just how did he get in?
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June 7, 2018 9:05am
- brett68
  
  They young females didn’t lock the door.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:08am
  - big bruv
    
    brett68
    “They young females didn’t lock the door”
    
    Of course they didn’t. Two young females who having been through what passes for our education system will have been indoctrinated with the idea that all men are rapists. The very idea that they happened to leave the door unlocked just does not wash. I smell another cover up.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:26am
- peterwn
  
  A guy walked up to his front door and found another guy there trying to open the door.
  ‘My key does not seem to fit’.
  The other guy responded ‘If that key fits then you and my wife have a lot of explaining to do’.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:56am
  - kowtow
    
    Guy was banging neighbours wife. Suspicious Hubby comes home early. Naked Guy runs into cupboard to hide. Unfortunately his balls get left out stuck between the doors. Hubby rushes into the bedroom , looks around sees the “set” hanging out the doors , pointing at them demands to the Missus ” What’s this then”, She says thy’re a pair of bells .
    
    Hubby takes a massive sidepunch at them , guy inside has to really stifle a scream , hubby hits them again , and again, no ring tone …….Massive hit again….
    
    Guy inside can’t take it any longer , bursts the doors open and screams “DING , DONG , now fuck off”
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:38am
Harkman

Good News

According to Barbara Dreaver last night our people/nz first government is now giving away millions to the Solomon Islands. Yay.

Here’s the Herald on it
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12065595
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June 7, 2018 9:26am
- big bruv
  
  Surely the job of TVNZ’s Pacific Correspondent is a voluntary one. I cannot for the life of me imagine that the governments propaganda division pays anybody to do that worthless job.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:31am
  - Harkman
    
    Barbara has worth?? ? she’s a nauseating pain.
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:43am
  - hullkiwi
    
    @Big Bruv, she is not alone. Every night Mon – Fri, Red Radio have a half hour slot informing us about what is happening in the Islands. Not exactly news worthy, there again, not much of what passes for news in our press is newsworthy either!
    
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    June 7, 2018 6:30pm
- kevn
  
  @Hark… CoL trying to beat the Chinese at Dutch auction pacific donations. Lose.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:47am
- KevOB
  
  Why are we chasing the melanesian Solomons? That has been Australia’s interest. Vanaatu likewise? We have Polynesia: Tonga, Cooks, Samoa and Tokelau.
  
  It’s too late to buy off Chinese influence and we can’t afford it despite NZ being smaller than Sydney.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:43pm
  - Harkman
    
    Exactly, China has like $4 trillion in reserves. The islands are now likely to still go cap & hand to China and play both sides off against each other. The better tool is to limit travel/immigration if their governments take money from them, then the people on the islands will get angry at losing access to our welfare state.
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:51pm
    - Jack5
      
      Yep, Harkman, no welfare state in China.
      
      We have the strong hand, but while you’ve got as Foreign Minister Winston Peters, a man in serious physical decline, we won’t play that ace card.
      
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      June 7, 2018 9:56pm
dime

this has probably been talked about already, but LMAO @ Miss America

I cant wait to see the pigs they trot out on pageant night!

obviously, I wouldn’t watch it, but the highlights will be funny.

no doubt the Herald will feature some porkers who are on it, telling us how amazingly beautiful they are etc

for those who missed it – miss America has no swimsuit section now and the evening dress can be anything, you get points for talking about social action or some shit.

its going to be glorious
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June 7, 2018 9:33am
- big bruv
  
  dime
  I eagerly await the first cock in a frock who ‘feels’ like a chick and appears in the Miss America pageant.
  Come to think of it, why are they allowed to call it “Miss America”, that sounds awfully cis gender to me. It’s time for the pageant to be renamed Ze America so as not to exclude cocks in frocks or other assorted freaks.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:39am
  - MCos
    
    Book a holiday in Pattaya.
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:19am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ‘the first cock in a frock who ‘feels’ like a chick ‘
    
    Ironically, some young trannies and drag queens achieve the extremely skinny, long-legged look that has been in fashion for women with far more ease than the average female can (and most never can, despite starving themselves). We could see Miss America just becoming full of tall, skinny drag queens who also automatically have high ‘social action’ points.
    
    I can already see the drag queens towering half a foot over the little women, LOL…
    
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    June 7, 2018 1:51pm
- Longknives
  
  Miss World will follow soon- Lazy tenner on Miss China?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvDXsIm9Zk
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:40am
  - Ed Snack
    
    My money’s on the Hypno-Toad !
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:39am
- UpandComer
  
  It’s going to be a beauty competition where they’re not allowed to rate women for their looks..
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:59am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Why would anyone enter any competition and complain about being judged?
    
    IQ fail right there.
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:01am
  - Monique Watson
    
    You mean the new Pageant”? Slash the frocks and lose the rocks. Watch ratings fall.
    
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    June 7, 2018 2:09pm
- MCos
  
  Mr Dime
  The Miss America show has been steadily losing audience numbers for years. The local NZ version diasappeared off our screens years ago.
  Last year’s ratings was less than a third of a competing NFL game, and according to the glorious US leader that is a failing product.
  Consequently something new is being tried to appeal to a more sophisticated audience. Not you, by the sounds.
  So if a parade of tits & bums is what you want there’s probably replays of old shows on YouTube I’d expect.
  No doubt if ratings were soaring they wouldn’t be fiddling with the format.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:18am
  - dime
    
    “Consequently something new is being tried to appeal to a more sophisticated audience. ”
    
    lol yeah. nothing quite as sophisticated as feminist pigs in a beauty pageant
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:19am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and yet the “hero parade” gets maximum TV coverage….on the NEWS
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:54am
- Rich Prick
  
  A ratings winner? I must admit, fat fuggly feminists wobbling about on the stage would be pretty unappealing, except I suppose to those liberal leftie beta males (or any of the 56 other genders). Which leaves the judging to who has the biggest hardon for “solving climate change” and crap like that.
  
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  June 7, 2018 3:35pm
Captain Mainwaring

Interesting that Cindy is of the view that the plastic bag debate needs to go to Cabinet, but when it comes to the wiping out of our energy industry it can be done in a flash with a discussion between her, the drunken midget and Jimmy Two mums.
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June 7, 2018 9:43am
- Harkman
  
  “Jimmy Two mums”???
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:45am
  - dime
    
    the gween leader. raised by two dykes.
    
    its amazing he turned out such a tough bloke despite that
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:49am
    - milkmaid
      
      I was thinking about cranking up the barbie later if the weather clears …
      
      Dime would have a few good recipes for pea patties, wouldn’t he ??? 😉
      
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      June 7, 2018 10:03am
    - Harkman
      
      Cheers, didn’t know that, explains a lot though, lol.
      
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      June 7, 2018 11:11am
- UpandComer
  
  ‘Jimmy Two Mums’ lol
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:56am
Monique Watson

Have you heard the one about Wallaby Jack?

Punchline is: “I”m a career criminal”.
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June 7, 2018 9:48am
UpandComer

Hey EAD

Whatever you do,

Don’t read this article.

Don’t read it. Don’t draw any conclusions from it. But most importantly, don’t read it.

It might just encourage you in your reprehensible and horrid empiricism. I would hate that.

https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/hating-russia-is-a-full-time-job/
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June 7, 2018 9:55am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Up and Comer,
  Thank you for bringing that link to our attention. Part of my essential reading prior to my visit to Russia in August.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:08pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Great read UpandCommer – I will be filing that one away for future reference.
  
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  June 7, 2018 7:44pm
ex-golfer

Meet the kind and caring Green Party:
https://twitter.com/renee_jg/status/1004227853246853120

Story:
– person gets bulk email from Green Party about a meeting in her local area
– said person replies and asks to be removed from mailing list and also states will be cancelling Green Party membership
– person then gets a reply from the personal email address of a Green Party convener saying “Bye bigot!”

Questions?
1. Why was the email address (and any other personal details) being held by a Green Party convener in their personal email database?
2. Isn’t this a gross breach of privacy (of the sort the left are always raging about)?

As a side note: The convener (Maddy Drew) also works for the PSA.
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June 7, 2018 10:05am
- alex Masterley
  
  Green party engaging respectfully with people again?
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:24am
  - ex-golfer
    
    Further digging reveals Maddy Drew was the Green Party candidate in the 2014 general election for the Otaki electorate.
    
    She obviously wasn’t good enough to get the nod to run in 2017!
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:32am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Well that’s the Greens generally, isn’t it.
    Disrespectful, unprofessional, judgemental and full of immature insults directed to people they don’t even know.
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:58pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      In an earlier age Greens formed the rump of the nasty and vindictive support base of organised religions. These days they have founded a new church of their own making for their nasty misanthropic dictatorial tendencies.
      
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      June 7, 2018 1:52pm
- ztev
  
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  So she was a party member and was getting email ?
  Isnt that what they do normally
  
  Surely the convenors handle membership procedural stuff.?
  
  Were the person who joined and then unjoined the Greens?
  
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  June 7, 2018 11:04am
UpandComer

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/104506076/quickly-quietly-the-oil-industry-is-given-its-marching-orders

Patrick Smellie is a strange man.

The article is all over the place.

So he definitely supports wrecking the energy industry:

“It is another demonstration that this is a different government, just like the refreshing choice of Queens’ Birthday Honours, or the birth of a baby by a sitting Prime Minister, or the intention to build 100,000 affordable homes.

But then he says things that almost sound sarcastic:

“Yes, there is compelling evidence that the exploration decision will cost New Zealand billions of dollars in economic activity and will also likely increase, rather than reduce, greenhouse gas emissions on a global scale.”

“Clearly, the Government was not about to give the oil and gas lobby time to muster its considerable resources against such a big decision with such significant, easily predictable economic impact and questionable real-world climate change pay-off.”

“The direct of Methanex scaling back its operations in New Zealand is that this global supply is met by higher cost, and significantly higher emitting, methanol produced from coal in China.

But he doubles down in supporting it:

“In political terms, however, the decision remains a powerful statement of leadership, with political upside of its own”.

“…that’s a price the Government would willingly pay to confirm its climate change action credentials.”

It’s so weird reading the left these days. Jarring dissonance all the way down. They’re in a passive aggressive sparring match with reality.
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June 7, 2018 10:08am
- Ross12
  
  Clearly the word has gone out to any journalist they think they can “control” to get any support they can. Given mainly business people would read Smellie then I think they would come to same conclusion you did UpandComer –something like the guy is doing what he was told (so he does not lose access to future information) but comes across as totally confused and does not really know what he is on about.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:25am
- ztev
  
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  “The direct of Methanex scaling back its operations in New Zealand is that this global supply is met by higher cost, and significantly higher emitting, methanol produced from coal in China.”
  
  Higher cost ? Australia has mega plants for exporting natural gas, we just ship some here for the methanex plant.
  The MBIE anlaysis is infantile, if its higher cost we can source natural gas from the world market, easy peasy.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:59am
  - Ross12
    
    You really have no idea do you ztev.
    To receive LNG from overseas we need a LNG receiving plant which requires major investment. Woods was told at the closed door meeting in NP it would take 5 years to build. It is not a tin shed that is needed.
    If the reason for closing down the industry ( that will be the end result of the decision) was to reduce emissions and help “save the world” why would you support importing gas? Why would we not use our own resource ?
    Just like Smellie, your thinking is totally screwed up.
    
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    June 7, 2018 12:22pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Ztev:
    
    The MBIE anlaysis is infantile
    
    You know, while you were banned, we struggled to cope without your worldly knowledge and your good charm!
    
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    June 7, 2018 2:36pm
- KevOB
  
  They still have no mandate to wreck the NZ economy by fiat.
  This govt has ceased to be a govt, if they ever had that ability. They claim they signalled climate change–wot climate change?
  
  The real motive is to cement in the green support before they lose Winstons.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:52pm
Justitia

A particularly disturbing feature of the Human Rights Commission’s effort to ban free speech and to legally privilege Islam can be found in paragraph 32 of its report to the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. Here the Commission notes that the primary mechanism under the Human Rights Act 1993 for dealing with complaints about “hate speech” is mediation through the Human Rights Commission. The Commission goes on to say however that, “some complainants and potential complainants have indicated to the Commission that they do not believe that mediation is an appropriate framework for dealing with complaints that regard hate speech or the incitement of racial disharmony”.
The Commission then proceeds to make its recommendation that would create the new crime of “disharmonious speech targeted at the religion and beliefs of ethnic minority communities”, i.e. the “Muslim New Zealanders” referred to in paragraph 31 of the report.
So the Commission proposes that mediation should be ignored on the basis of the say-so of “some complainants or POTENTIAL complainants”? This really is very dangerous nonsense and potentially a monstrous outrage against our personal freedoms.
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June 7, 2018 10:18am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  What is the difference between “disharmonious speech” and a cry for help?
  
  The Human Rights Commission can’t tell the difference between disharmony and distress.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:30am
- Rich Prick
  
  Imagine having to attend a ~~mediation~~ re-education camp over sky-fairies? I doubt I’d get an A+ pass mark.
  
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- ztev
  
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  Disharmony ?
  
  They were talking about their own staff and the Commissioners appointed by national who couldnt practice what they preach.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:55am
- UpandComer
  
  That’s good work.
  
  ‘Potential complainants’. lol.
  
  What is wrong with these people.
  
  They should all be writing letters to their cousins in England to stop the ongoing rape of 1million English girls, and the ongoing subjugation of the rule of law and native English community to their violence backed censorship.
  
  I just don’t understand it. Why are they congenitally incapable of accepting that their feelings are irrelevant to speech?
  
  In Qatar, you get hit with sticks in the streets if you breach Sharia.
  
  Maybe we need to institute similar laws here via the principle of comity at international law.
  
  If they institute this, they deserve hostility from all corners of the community.
  
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  June 7, 2018 11:49am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I’d like some muslim extremists to tell the HRC staff off for not covering up enough, allowing unrelated men and women to work together and allowing pictures of animals and people in their offices. Tell them how offensive their behaviour is, a real insult to muslims! Apply a few sharia rules to them and see how they like it.
    
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    June 7, 2018 2:06pm
Keeping Stock

Has a woman had a baby yet?
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June 7, 2018 10:20am
- ex-golfer
  
  Every day Keeping Stock.
  Its a regular occurrence.
  Nothing unusual.
  Oh wait……….
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:23am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  You mean like this unusual event!
  https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/parenting/parenting-news/national-party-leader-simon-bridges-introduces-his-newborn-daughter-36756
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:53am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Yup and JA is proof that there is one born every minute.
  
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  June 7, 2018 11:06am
Monique Watson

Under the headline: “That Fucking Cat’s Back”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12066026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtqZJhyBIaQ

Bit like Little, eh?
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June 7, 2018 10:25am
Chuck Bird

I will be going to hear U.S Ambassador Scott Brown at Tim Macindoe Monthly Forum at Cafe Agora, Kent St, Frankton tomorrow morning at 10:15.
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June 7, 2018 10:32am
Manolo

The hound goes on sniffing:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/06/mueller-team-zeroes-in-on-encrypted-apps-as-witness-turn-in-phones.html

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team is requesting that witnesses turn in their personal phones to inspect their encrypted messaging programs and potentially view conversations between associates linked to President Donald Trump, sources told CNBC.
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June 7, 2018 10:44am
- softail 1450
  
  Manolo, just smash them with a hammer ,it worked for hillary.
  
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  June 7, 2018 11:10am
  - Harkman
    
    Or Bleachbit
    
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    June 7, 2018 11:13am
RW Capitalist

Will Mattel bring out their own version of “pregnant barbie”?
Now that our version is soon to have a baby?
Could Jacinda sue for copy write infringement?
After all
Barbie is plastic….Jacinda is artificial.
Barbie is hollow….Jacinda is vacuous
Barbie is sold on her looks…well so was Jacinda
Barbie comes in a cellophane and cardboard box, which is useless after you remove the doll.
and Jacinda came out of the Labour party.
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June 7, 2018 10:59am
RW Capitalist

Any one see the “car pool” on the AM show.
2 kids in the back of the car
6 university degrees between them
Girl said her student loan was $100 000
Considering we pay 80% that means, we paid
$400 000 for this idiots education.
When asked how good JA was, both said GREAT, but could not name a single achievement, but did mention babies.
Asked about JA’s progress on curing child Poverty, answer was none yet…but they will.
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June 7, 2018 11:04am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Car cesspool’ in reality. The female is studying law but doesn’t seem that happy about it, and the chocolate tunnel lad really was dumb.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:03pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  ‘answer was none yet’ Well, at least they got that right!
  
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  June 7, 2018 2:08pm
softail 1450

If you want a good laugh, Google ” mark dice miss america pageant” hilarious .
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June 7, 2018 11:06am
DigNap15

Talking about slack journalists
They never follow things up
Eg what has happened to all the Rohinga refugees?
They were on tv everynight, now for 6 months nothing.
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June 7, 2018 11:19am
- Jack5
  
  For more than 60 years Christian refugees from Burma-Myanmar have been trying to escape to neighbouring countries – Christians who helped the Allies in the Burma campaign of World War 2.
  
  Does anyone know of a finger in NZ raised to help them?
  
  When Burma-Myanmar persecutes its Muslim minority, the publicity begins, ahead of the arrival in NZ of Muslim refugees.
  
  For pro-Muslim bias in the UN selection of refugees:
  
  https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2017/03/20/iraqs-christian-refugees-face-double-discrimination/
  
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  June 7, 2018 11:47am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    An outstanding article by NZ Catholic.
    
    It used to send Kimbo into Epileptic fits when I posted it?
    
    In fairness to Kimbo he may have had his bottom touched by a priest for all I know.
    
    Certainly a sore ‘point’ for him.
    
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    June 7, 2018 3:35pm
    - lifesgood
      
      More likely just terrified of religion. Funny the things people get terrified about.
      
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      June 7, 2018 5:55pm
  - MCos
    
    There are huge numbers of refugees from Myanmar in Thailand in camps along the border.
    https://borgenproject.org/facts-about-refugees-in-thailand/
    There are also scattered villages of stateless people dots around the NW.
    
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    June 7, 2018 4:10pm
Jack5

NZ universities have slipped in international rankings.

Could this be related to Maorification of our universities, with studies such as kapihaka and Maori oral-history?

Perhaps Maori studies like these should be in the Maori tertiary institutions, which are outside the Western university classification system.
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June 7, 2018 11:40am
- Harkman
  
  They are exhausting funds to make it more affordable instead of spending it on getting better staff or facilities.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:02pm
- Piniwi
  
  Perhaps Jack5 while it is no surprise it being a continuation of what is being pushed at children all through the school system even from ECE. However it is more the Fool Factor kicking in from fees free tertiary education as predicted there would be screams for funding. The irony is that in Fudget 2018 the universities were neglected and got no increase. As we know the COL have other priorities like good looking horses to mention just one.
  
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  June 7, 2018 2:06pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Some of the categories sounded pretty vague – one of them was ‘reputation’, not involving any particular evidence. So really just ‘gossip’? And once they have a worse ‘reputation’ it can only get worse. ‘Ooh, have you heard how bad that university’s reputation is?’ ‘Yes, let’s downtick it!’
  
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  June 7, 2018 2:12pm
Inandout

More prisoners topping themselves I heard. Angry Little would rather release them so they can do it at home.
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June 7, 2018 12:05pm
- rangitoto
  
  Garth McVicar was on Leighton’s ZB yesterday and pointed out that a number of prisoners were people who used to be kept in loony bins (not his exact words). Klarkenfuhrer turned them out on the street and many ended up in prison but corrections staff are not psych ward trained so this is one of the reasons that this is happening.
  
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  June 7, 2018 12:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Corrections estimate that 90% of the prison intake have mental health +/or drug abuse issues.
    
    There are a number of programmes/ treatments available for prisoners.
    http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/880650/Investing_in_better_mental_health_for_offenders.pdf
    
    For many folks, prison is probably the first place where their mental health problems are being addressed.
    
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    June 7, 2018 2:07pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Maggy,
      Exactly.
      Take a look at the graph on the first page of this report. As the number of psychiatric beds drops, the number in prison rises.
      http://tac2.nonprofitsoapbox.com/fixing-the-system/features-and-news/3083
      
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      June 7, 2018 2:31pm
    - DigNap15
      
      That’s why we need to toughen up on our drug laws.
      Make the importation and sale of meths punishable by 20 years and no parole.
      That might make them think twice.
      One strike and you are in.
      
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      June 7, 2018 7:15pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @rangitoto as we would expect while noting that the laws of unintended consequences (Fool Factor) have been the most consistent result of Labour policy from their earliest days. The loony brigade will surely bring a complete new set of anti social habits to a prison adding to the challenges for the staff. Like handicapped they act out and there are some simple but not so obvious methods to handle these outbursts. Brute force is no way at all as many seem to become so high on adrenalin mixing with some serious medication to have greater strength.
    Then many others will be cluttering up the state house waiting list and will be keen to move into “better” locations when the chance arrives. Lol
    
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    June 7, 2018 2:19pm
Poppa

I have been away for a few days, so what have I missed?

I see the long awaited return of Ztev has happened with a flourish. All that anger built up over the last few months seems to have bubbled over

Welcome back Ztev your pearls of wisdom were missed by some
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June 7, 2018 2:16pm
- kevn
  
  @Poppa… No, not missed. The z’s are just twyford clones anyway, aka F I G J A Ms.
  It has become a 3 poster red tick race to the bottom with septic boy in the lead with Wock a close second. z’s just trailing for now.
  
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  June 7, 2018 2:36pm
- Gravelroad
  
  New model of ztevs on the block this time maybe.
  Just like a new season of Dr Who – writing style a bit different and content sillier.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:08pm
  - sooty
    
    Still nasty!
    But then Labour is the nasty party.
    Why should their trolls be any different!
    
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    June 7, 2018 4:19pm
Ross12

WoO will need a new prescription of heart pills. China has just chopped subsidies on solar power.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/06/06/china-just-dealt-massive-blow-to-solar-industry.aspx
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June 7, 2018 2:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Ross12:
  
  It’s hilarious that you posted a link to “fool.com” in the context of WoO and his prescription medicine!
  
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  June 7, 2018 2:41pm
wreck1080

It seems John Key has been telling porkies. Despite his assurance that foreign buyers have little impact on the housing market, now we find 20% of auckland sales are going to overseas buyers.

If you look at residential sales that are financed from china, this figure could be a lot higher!!

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94168/overseas-house-buyer-activity-concentrated-places-auckland-and-queenstown

This is exactly what most people who deal in house sales would know anyway.
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June 7, 2018 3:03pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  20% sales to foreigners this year, remind me again who is in government? Who was going to stop these overseas sales etc., etc., Perhaps labour can get a working group together to talk about it.
  
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  June 7, 2018 3:52pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, but Nationally its only 3%.
  
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  June 7, 2018 7:13pm
Monique Watson

Who is Megan Woods?
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June 7, 2018 3:10pm
- softail 1450
  
  M W ,surely you jest “3 pies woods” is an international superstar,in her own mind.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:02pm
Monique Watson

And wreck you are totally fucking wrong. Local market.
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June 7, 2018 3:12pm
- wreck1080
  
  You should change your name to miss potty mouth.
  
  Regardless of your coarseness, read the report from statistics New Zealand.
  
  https://www.stats.govt.nz/news/just-over-3-percent-of-home-transfers-go-to-overseas-buyers
  
  Or, to quote….
  
  The proportion of overseas home buyers varies across Auckland. For example, it was 1.7 percent in Franklin and 19 percent in the inner city (Waitemata) in the March quarter
  
  You may not like the figures as they don’t suit your view, but too bad!
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:07pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    But they are under a labour government presently, together with NZ First were going to stop overseas sales. Big fail on their part. Mind you I have no problem with overseas sales.
    
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    June 7, 2018 4:13pm
  - Jack5
    
    Hot money from China has been distorting property markets around the Pacific – in British Columbia and Australia as well as in NZ – and even further afield, in Singapore.
    
    Many of these regions have introduced measures to restrict foreign ownership of property. In Singapore, for example, foreigners are barred from owning:
    
    – Vacant land.
    – Landed residential property, such as bungalows, terrace houses, semi-detached houses.
    – Residential property in a building of less than six levels.
    
    British Columbia introduced a 15 per cent tax on foreign purchases of houses in Vancouver, and this year announced it would increase this to 20 per cent.
    
    National has had its head in the sand over foreign influence on Auckland property prices. Add this to its selection as a list MP of a former employee of the Chinese national security network, and you have to worry about the Auckland section of the National Party.
    
    The 3 per cent foreign buyer figure Wreck1080 quotes relates to buyers for the whole of NZ, whereas the property bubble is in Auckland (and to an extent, Queenstown). The report Wreck1080 links to includes that 19 per cent of buyers in the Auckland inner city in the March quarter were foreigners.
    
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    June 7, 2018 4:26pm
- softail 1450
  
  M W , twitford said they had Asian sounding names so they must be Chinese, what a fricking drongo that creature is.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:08pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Yeah, he’s a drongo alright, probably thinks Mike Chunn is Chinese.
    
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    June 7, 2018 5:58pm
Gravelroad

The current lead story on Stuff typifies the confusion around homelessness.
A 29 year old woman is living on the streets of Auckland.
It is cold.
She is pregnant.
She has five other children, all living with her mother.
Her partner is in jail.
She really wants to keep baby number 6.
Stuff reports: “she had a home to go back to but chose to be on the streets because her partner was in jail.” Don’t understand the logic there, but presumably she must.
And in same article: “Auckland’s City Mission’s Chris Farrelly said homelessness was NOT a choice.”
How on earth are ordinary taxpayers funding people on welfare ever to make head or tale of people who live their lives like this – and bring more and more children into it?
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June 7, 2018 3:35pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “she had a home to go back to but chose to be on the streets because her partner was in jail.”
  
  Maybe her partner is the only one who knows how to cook a feed.
  
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  June 7, 2018 5:29pm
- lifesgood
  
  I don’t give a stuff about the human rights of these people…tie her tubes, she’s got enough kids. I doubt this one is her partners, anyway.
  
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  June 7, 2018 5:59pm
- RF
  
  She needs a builders G clamp across both knees.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:46pm
rightoverlabour

Any one know ztev’s anger triggers? It was so peaceful with him in the slammer. Stephieboy is too thick to react, so that’s pointless, but I do believe we can get under ztev’s skin….
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June 7, 2018 4:05pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Rightoverlabour:
  
  Ztev suffers from an extreme form of Key Derangement Syndrome, but he’s a naughty boy because he can’t let go of his voodoo doll, and he won’t take his syrup medicine. I recommend extreme therapy: lock him in a room with the “Best of John Key” videos on repeat and Hugh Pavletich (who seems equally obsessed with what John Key said many years ago) for companionship.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:15pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Two I know everything men, it would be a interesting discussion. Any thoughts on who would win Nostradamus.
    
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    June 7, 2018 4:37pm
- softail 1450
  
  rightoverlabour, trev is a very good googler and thats it ……..
  Oh, and the obsessive masturbation thing.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:20pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Christian lefty zealot
  Anyway, I’m off for a swim before breakfast. Too nice here to worry about sad little ****s like him.
  
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  June 7, 2018 4:20pm
- Prince
  
  Just mention John Key, Hutt South or Chris Bishop.
  Stand well clear.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:21pm
Jack5

Anyone interested in currency, in money, and especially any Social Credit veterans, should watch out for the result of a referendum in Switzerland this Sunday.

This is on Vollgeld – or “full money.”

Michael Reddell, in his Croaking Cassandra blog, gives the background, and says this is the key element sought:

“The 100% reserves requirement means that all sight deposits in Swiss francs in Switzerland would have to be entirely kept as reserves in the Swiss National Bank. This implies that commercial banks would not be able any more to use a fraction of these deposits to finance their lending activities, as they currently do. Swiss money would then entirely become ‘sovereign money’, controlled by the Swiss National Bank.”

Michael Reddell’s article:

https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/06/07/voting-on-monetary-reform/

A background – in English – from the Swiss who sought the referendum, includes this about what is sought:

• The Swiss National Bank would be the sole organisation authorised to create money – not only cash and coins, but also the electronic money in our bank accounts.

• The banks would provide all the services as they do now including bank accounts, payment transactions and loans. They just won’t be able to create money any more.

https://www.vollgeld-initiative.ch/fa/img/English/2017_05_02_Referendum_on_Sovereign_Money_in_Switzerland.pdf
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June 7, 2018 4:08pm
cha

Seventy four years ago today 156,000 Allied troops landed on five Normandy beachheads. By days end, 4,414 were confirmed dead and around 6,000 wounded.

Few New Zealanders took part in the landings but some served as ABs and officers in the RAF, the RN and the Merchant Navy and others helmed landing craft.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6452692/d-day-pictures-colour-world-war-2-normandy-landings-british-soldiers/
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June 7, 2018 4:42pm
Ross12

Here comes the attack on agriculture and a lot of other activities
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12066123
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June 7, 2018 5:48pm
nasska

….”A crocodile “jumped out of a lake” and killed a pastor while he was baptising followers near the water in Ethiopia”…..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12065355

God works in mysterious ways His wonders to perform! 🙂
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June 7, 2018 6:14pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  Lightning strike at church kills 16, injures 140 in Rwanda
  
  At least 16 people were killed in Rwanda and 140 others injured when lightning struck a Seventh Day Adventist church in the country’s south Sunday, said a provincial governor.
  
  God works in mysterious ways!
  
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  June 7, 2018 6:35pm
  - nasska
    
    His methods of gathering His flock to sit at His side remain an enigma to the heathen Nostra. 🙂
    
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    June 7, 2018 6:40pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Further proof that being anything other than muslim is not safe in today’s world Mr Hillbilly. 🙁
      
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      June 7, 2018 6:57pm
lifesgood

There was an interesting story line on Aussie programme, Doctor Doctor, last night. The doctor failed a drugs test. It turned out he had been treating a patient at her home contaminated by meth and it had been ingested by him. Clearly the Aussies don’t go along with Gluckman’s theories.
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June 7, 2018 6:17pm
- nasska
  
  The seems that the role the good professor has assumed is that of providing science compatible with the policies of the government of the day.
  
  In this case his learned opinion derailed the lynching of the lying CoL’s over their broken promises to provide more housing.
  
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  June 7, 2018 6:53pm
- Jack5
  
  Lifesgood, the Allies – and the Germans – at times gave their air crews meth, and there were no problems of contaminated planes or contaminated uniforms.
  
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  June 7, 2018 10:03pm
Hugh Pavletich

Auckland business confidence in ‘free fall’ – Chamber of Commerce – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12066348

The spiking price of fuel, slow progress on housing and infrastructure and the threat of rising labour costs has sent business confidence in the country’s biggest city into “free fall”, says Auckland Chamber of Commerce boss Michael Barnett.

The chamber last week surveyed 800 businesses and found nearly half (44 per cent) believed the economy will deteriorate over the rest of this year.

Only 15 per cent thought the economy would improve during that time.

Compare that to June last year, when a third of businesses surveyed thought the economy would improve while only eight per cent believed things would get worse. … read more via hyperlink above …

… John Armstrong at TVNZ opines …

John Armstrong: Labour’s record so far on affordable housing builds is pathetic … John Armstrong OPINION … TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/john-armstrong-labours-record-so-far-affordable-housing-builds-pathetic

When Labour unfurled its flagship KiwiBuild policy back in 2012, the party thought it had come up with something special.

It thought it was onto an absolute winner.

And with good reason. The policy had a number of virtues for a party in Opposition, the chief one being its sheer simplicity. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Kiwibuild CANNOT work without affordable land and properly debt financed infrastructure …

Housing – New Zealand Labour Party

https://www.labour.org.nz/housing

… extract …

Remove barriers that are stopping Auckland growing up and out

Labour will remove the Auckland urban growth boundary and free up density controls. This will give Auckland more options to grow, as well as stopping landbankers profiteering and holding up development. New developments, both in Auckland and the rest of New Zealand, will be funded through innovative infrastructure bonds.

Inaugural New Zealand IPSOS Survey …

UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092

A recent survey on key issues concerning New Zealanders has shown that housing accessibility and affordability are at the forefront of people’s minds.

The first of the quarterly New Zealand Issues Monitor reports, run by global market research company Ipsos, interviewed 610 respondents over the age of 16.

It sought to track what New Zealanders were concerned about, who is worried about what and which political parties are seen to be best able to improve matters. … read more via hyperlink above …

Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build

Salvation Army questions ability of government departments to handle the flagship house building plan; seeks establishment of group to deliver houses ‘quickly and at affordable cost’ | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/93961/salvation-army-questions-ability-government-departments-handle-flagship-house

The Salvation Army’s casting doubts on the ability of government departments to deliver on the Kiwibuild affordable housing programme and is calling for establishment of an expert group to deliver the required houses.

A media statement from the Salvation Army said that “growing uncertainty” over whether Kiwibuild can “reignite the Kiwi dream” of homeownership needs to be countered.

“Recent reports from Treasury and The Chief Executive of New Zealand Certified Builders indicating the programme may not be able to deliver the housing required creates uncertainty for families who see Kiwibuild as their path to homeownership,” the statement said. … read more via hyperlink above …

Lessons from Greater Christchurch …

Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago. … read more via hyperlink above …

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame

Rodney Dickens says section prices are the key to solving the housing affordability problem, not higher density around transport hubs. He warns against force-feeding in areas that won’t deliver the intended outcome … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/92556/rodney-dickens-says-section-prices-are-key-solving-housing-affordability-problem-not

NEW ZEALAND: There is nothing ‘affordable’ about Kiwibuild Housing Minister Twyford

By Hugh Pavletich

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/garner_says_kiwibuild_a_hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-2209572
… with extensive further posts on thread …
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- Nostradamus
  
  Summary:
  
  My name is Hugh Pavletich
  Link to NZ Herald article
  Link to TVNZ article
  Link to Labour Party website
  Link to another NZ Herald article
  Link to Stuff article
  Link to interest.co.nz article
  Link to Kiwiblog comment “By Hugh Pavletich … with extensive further posts on thread”
  
  What a train-wreck!
  
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  June 7, 2018 7:01pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s not dissimilar to a “news aggregation service” that was offered by a former co-commentator Nostra.
    
    Can you recall how it panned out? 🙂
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:05pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      ..and there is this little thing called whoar..that i do every day..and have done for four+ years..
      ..and reid..!..i am sure you will be pleased to hear..
      ..that i have been approached by some americans..in america..who ‘love’ my work at whoar..
      ..and want my newsfeed to be the newsfeed on a new on-line media site..soon to open in america..
      ..as you can imagine..i am quite chuffed…
      ..with visions of american advertising dollers dancing in my head..
      so..reid..
      (is that game-set-match..?..)
      
      June 28, 2009 12:08pm
      
      The Americans must have welched on the deal – or he’s stashed the money under the mattress and still lives frugally!
      
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      June 7, 2018 7:11pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        [Blank comment for my downticker fan]
        Hi Hugh 🙂
        
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        June 7, 2018 7:16pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Can you recall how it panned out?
      
      It panned out. Completely out in fact.
      
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      June 7, 2018 7:20pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    My name is Hugh Pavletich and I’m a linkoholic
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:18pm
  - stigie
    
    Fuck, Hugh ! (is that correct) ?
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:24pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Suit yourself stigie, but I certainly wouldn’t.
      
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      June 7, 2018 7:27pm
      - stigie
        
        Ive been accused of a punctuation disorder davinci, i would hate to think that im getting as bad as Philu (Phool) ..?
        
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        June 7, 2018 7:33pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Done my bit. Come on team.
  
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  June 7, 2018 7:56pm
Hugh Pavletich

… It was a crisis for National in Opposition back on 2007 …

John Key – Housing Reform – 2007 (Youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE

Key: Speech to New Zealand Contractors Federation | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0708/S00336.htm

… concluding …

… This is an issue that should concern all New Zealanders. It threatens a fundamental part of our culture, it threatens our communities and, ultimately, it threatens our economy.

The good news is that we can turn the situation around. We can deal with the fundamental issues driving the home affordability crisis. Not just with rinky-dink schemes, but with sound long-term solutions to an issue that has long-term implications for New Zealand’s economy and society.

National has a plan for doing this and we will be resolute in our commitment to the goal of ensuring more young Kiwis can aspire to buy their own home.

It’s a worthy goal and one I hope you will support us in achieving. Thank-you.
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Key lied and can – kicked for 9 long years … while the housing market inflated by another $400 billion + … unnecessarily …

Housing: Mr Key – Get on the Programme | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1212/S00041/housing-mr-key-get-on-the-programme.htm

… What I wrote late January 2017, at the time of the release of the Demographia Survey …

New Zealand’s housing consensus:
Where is the political leadership ? – Hugh Pavletich

http://pc.blogspot.com/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html

… extract …

… Auckland’s median house price was $427,500 when Mr Key’s Government came to office late 2008 (refer 2009 5th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey ).

If prices had even been held at this level … with a sound mix of land releases and progressive bond financing of infrastructure … and with Auckland’s current median household income of $83,000, Auckland’s median multiple today would be 5.1 not the current 10.

Median house prices are currently way out of control at around $830,000.

Better still … if prices had been allowed to gently ease since late 2008 (as polling has illustrated most New Zealanders prefer … and currently getting underway in Greater Christchurch, led by easing rentals), then Auckland today would be well on the road to restoring housing affordability.

Auckland’s house prices would now be around 4 times household incomes, not the egregious 10 times incomes they are.

The median house price would be about $330,000 … not the current stratospheric and grossly irresponsible $830,000 !

Political failure of epic proportions ! … read more via hyperlink above
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June 7, 2018 7:18pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Hugh:
  
  What I wrote late January 2017, at the time of the release of the Demographia Survey
  
  Wank wank *splurt*
  Someone pass Hugh a tissue!
  
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  June 7, 2018 7:19pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Only two shots? Eyes or nostrils?
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:22pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    You bastard Nostra. Your edit completely ruined my line.
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:26pm
  - nasska
    
    Here you are Hugh. It’s this or a new keyboard. 🙂
    
    https://www.officemax.co.nz/Technology/Computer-Accessories/Computer-Cleaning-Products/Dataflash-Disinfecting-Computer-Cleaning-Spray-2436876
    
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    June 7, 2018 7:32pm
    - nasska
      
      Don’t be ashamed……others have had the same problem! 🙂
      
      http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php/topic/24807-removing-cum-off-lcd-monitor/
      
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      June 7, 2018 7:56pm
      - stigie
        
        Very entertaining Nasska how did you cum up with that ole chap..?
        
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        June 7, 2018 8:15pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  We got rid of one of boring old Hugh’s comments. Need a bit more help to obliterate the second one.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:34pm
slightlyrighty

I see that Greenpeace is snooty again over a Private Investigator using motor vehicle registers to track Greenpeace staff as they attacked the oil exploration industry.

The irony of Greenpeace being tripped up in protesting fossil fuels because of the vehicles they run which use fossil fuels is not lost on me.
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June 7, 2018 7:32pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Greenpeace also had an item on TV 1 tonight about plastics in Antarctica.
  
  Must be time for TVNZ to sack all its reporters and just hand the whole shebang over to Commissar Norman.
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:08pm
ex-golfer

Labour caught out in the hypocrisy stakes again.
No surprise though.
I don’t know why parties bother to deny these things and jump up and down when their opposition do it – everyone knows they happen.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104524940/labour-hosts-business-and-lobbyists-at-600ahead-dinners-in-exclusive-private-clubs
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June 7, 2018 7:57pm
niggly

Talking about air-headed Labour MP’s doing Dumb things … again, check this out!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104542844/mps-consider-recalling-kelvin-davis-to-select-committee-over-vacant-answers

Labour’s dumber and dumber Kelvin Davis might have to do another disappearing act again as part of the COL Witless Protection scheme??!!!
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June 7, 2018 8:39pm
- hullkiwi
  
  yes, I’ve just read the same thing. Oh dear, never mind, ztev you better go and do some more protecting…..
  
  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/davis-under-fire-for-vacant-performance-in-parliament/ar-AAyk9fu?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=spartandhp
  
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  June 7, 2018 8:56pm
  - niggly
    
    And to think that Kelvin Davis is the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party!
    
    But to make matters worse, the Labour Party are only held together by Jacinda’s fairy dust!
    
    No wonder the poor woman is saying she will remain as PM right up until the birth (to hold the Party and COL together)!
    
    But when exactly will that be? When she is first admitted? When she is carted into the Delivery Suite?
    
    Will Winston have to accompany her into the Delivery suite, pen and paper in hand, to get her to sign-over him becoming PM?!!! Let’s hope she doesn’t faint and Winston goes home empty handed with his unsigned documents (still as the “Deputy PM”)!
    
    As for Ztev, looks like he disappears in the evening (gone to Fraser House briefing perhaps, or for a bollocking from H2 for scoring too many own goals here today?!!), then re-emerges first thing each morning with Labour/NZF’s clipboard with briefing notes in hand and a new keyboard each day to smash his heart out on, oh and new scroll mouse to endlessly wizz around the comments sections to spray smart-arse comments!
    
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    June 7, 2018 9:21pm
nasska

Be aware guys! There are a few groups of two youngish Eastern European women preying on mature men in Whangarei. After approaching you, they start flirting & invite you back to their hotel for some ‘fun’. Once there, they take off their clothes & cover their chests in jam (or something similar) & invite you to lick it off. Little do you know, they have covered their skin in a chemical that renders you unconscious and while asleep, they steal your wallet & leave.

I was caught by this scam on Tuesday, Thursday & Friday of last week & will be done again on Saturday & Sunday this week.
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June 7, 2018 9:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Assuming you’re tight enough to only have a dollar or two in your plastic wallet, then you’ve got a fairly cheap night’s entertainment and hotel room for the night.
  
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  June 7, 2018 9:44pm
  - Jack5
    
    Given the stuff the Eastern countries have been using on targets, Nasska, before licking, you would be wise to switch the lights off to see if their chests are glowing.
    
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    June 7, 2018 10:00pm
RF

Christ this Govt is corrupt.

Amongst a shit load of clusterfuks, Sweet cheeks is selling his soul for cash donations to Labour.

Nash only receives half of what he needs to put 1800 cops on the street. Just shows how genuine Labour are about law and order.

Kelvin Davis has gone loopy and Indiana Jones admits to running a slush funds for his $$$$$$ where the first to put their hand up gets rewarded. I should add that you also have to come from the far north.

Peters has either gone into witness protection, gone Mad or being measured up for his Field Marshalls uniform complete with frock coat with gold trimmings and a 3 corner hat with a large white
ostrich feather plume.
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June 7, 2018 10:00pm
Monique Watson

Under the Headline: “Of Course They Fucking Do”:
Cash appears outta no-where for Labour.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104524940/labour-hosts-business-and-lobbyists-at-600ahead-dinners-in-exclusive-private-clubs
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June 7, 2018 11:52pm
Viking2

A taste of whats to come.

he wintry weather has been blamed for leaving about 270 homes temporarily without power in Wellington, as the cold snap continues to grip the country.

Elsewhere on Thursday night, snow showers continued to fall across the North Island central plateau, affecting State Highway 1.

Earlier, in the capital, about 170 homes in Mapuia, on the Miramar peninsula, were without power for 30 minutes after high demand triggered a fuse in a local substation on Thursday night.

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Being slightly more than middle aged I can remember winters where Wellington and Lower Hutt had many long power cuts because there was not sufficient power generation or the infrastructure couldn’t cope. I can tell about the voltage drop that came on Thursday nights causing or machinery to malfunction.

No doubt we are going to see this return once the gas runs out.
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