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June 29, 2018 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Captain Mainwaring

I’m no longer a regular reader of the Dumb Post for reasons which will be obvious to most here, but yesterday I was killing time at a library so took the opportunity to check out how bad it’s got.
Couldn’t find it at first because in place of the masthead was some unintelligible phrase in Maori. What’s the point of that – do they think it’s going to sell them more papers in Ruatoria?
Took a look inside Wednesday and Thursday editions and there was Tom Scott sinking to new lows. One drawing at the expense of David Seymour and the other lampooning Trump. I wouldn’t call them cartoons as the art of cartooning is to tell a story using a drawing. Drawing an offensive picture of a person and connecting it to unrelated equally offensive words is not a cartoon.
If there are any regular Dumb Post readers out there (I pity you) can someone please advise if the past-his-use-by lefty Scott has recently taken the piss out of anyone in the Coalition of Lying Losers? They are after all providing cartoon targets on a more than daily basis.
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June 29, 2018 8:01am
- RalphT
  
  Captain, surely you don’t expect a leopard like Scott to change his spots?
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:13am
  - GazzaW
    
    He’s never forgiven the Nats since Muldoon tore him a new one.
    
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    June 29, 2018 8:22am
    - Harkman
      
      The guy is a nasty lefty prick, I get the Press twice per week and I’ve just about had enough of his bullsh!t He makes an already terrible rag worse.
      
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      June 29, 2018 9:27am
- Justitia
  
  Captain: yesterday’s Dim Post did contain one article of particular merit, an excellent column by Karl du Fresne on cultural Marxism. I was astonished to find it there – Wellington is New Zealand’s capital of cultural Marxism. Waiting for the howls of outrage.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:13am
- JIV
  
  Tom Scott seems to have taken Godwin’s Law to heart, as he struggles to draw a legitimate cartoon of anything topical so just compares Trump to Hitler. Not clever or entertaining
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:20am
  - Jack5
    
    Scott’s cartoons are so pointless and humourless they are embarrassing to see.
    
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    June 29, 2018 12:02pm
    - Random Punter
      
      I’m so old I can remember when Tom Scott’s cartoons were funny.
      
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      June 29, 2018 3:10pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Me too. Talk about living off his reputation – based on his recent work he shouldn’t have a job.
        
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        June 29, 2018 3:52pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  …in place of the masthead was some unintelligible phrase in Maori. What’s the point of that…
  
  I know, it’s awful. They’re neglecting their racial duty to keep the gibberish spoken by savage darkies out of the sight of our pure White women. Give their jabbering space in the newspaper and the next thing you know they’ll be wanting their land back…
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:31am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Pyscho’s right, you MUST read what you’re told, believe what you’re told, and think what you are told.
    
    No other conduct is compatible with rightthink. Do not fall into ungood, that would be double plus ungood.
    
    Note: Admonishment does not apply to specified favoured racial groups who may make and claim privileges as prescribed.
    
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    June 29, 2018 8:50am
  - Lance
    
    Psycho’s gone full retard. Vile racist slurs based on nothing but prejudice is all it has left.
    Bitter and twisted much
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:10am
  - 4077th
    
    Someone’s off their meds this morning…
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:52am
  - KevOB
    
    What’s the point in token or pidgin Maori? That language is actually being destroyed by such bad useage where context and grammar are ignored. English and Euro languages can use cognates but that is not generally possible in Polynesian.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:13am
    - Prince
      
      The masthead doesn’t bother me . I think it’s a good idea to remove any vestiges of what was once a free-thinking paper but is now captured by left wing ‘opinion pieces’. The masthead is something about news from the fish’s head. Sums it up nicely.
      
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      June 29, 2018 10:45pm
- oldgolfer
  
  I can’t help with the Dumb Post but I can with its southern cousin, The Press.
  Its circulation, I’m told, is in freefall.
  Just last week I ran into two people who said they had cancelled subscriptions.
  The first was because, no matter how hard she tried, she could not get Press HQ to stop delivering the paper while she was on a brief holiday (the lawn was littered, worryingly, with old copies on her return). The second was an astute gent who said he was tired of being lectured by leftie columnists, whose work now fills much of the inside.
  They both took pleasure in telling Stuff, ahem, to get stuffed.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:43am
  - Inandout
    
    The Doomed Post and Herald, according to a bookseller, hardly move off their stands. Hell, I can remember when we had a dairy the morning paper delivery was in bundles of 20. Most true journalists have disappeared and have been replaced by cheap reporters straight out of school. And Tom Scott’s cartoons are truly awful, indicating a very troubled soul.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:01am
    - GazzaW
      
      After a free five week subscription via the AA the Herald offered us a permanent deal of $7 per week for all seven papers. After a family consultation we flagged it because most days the paper was still in the mailbox when we uplifted our mail. The Herald can’t seem to give it away.
      
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      June 29, 2018 11:27am
      - Inandout
        
        Well $7 a week for a delivery means the Herald is losing money, even though the ‘deal’ lifts subscription rates, so they can pitch to advertisers their paper is read widely. Watch the next NZ newspaper figures and take ‘circulation’ with a grain of salt.
        
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        June 29, 2018 3:07pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Scott is a very bitter individual, product of an unhappy childhood, I gather and working class Irish.
      
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      June 29, 2018 12:48pm
    - Prince
      
      They also have removed local sports coverage, while claiming to represent heir local communities. Plonkers.
      
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      June 29, 2018 10:47pm
- oldpark
  
  @ CM
  Latest shooting in USA was in a newspaper office. Rumour is emerging that they were caught printing fake news once to often. Go figure.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:43am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  do they think it’s going to sell them more papers in Ruatoria?
  
  As the Dompost is no longer delivered to Gisborne, I doubt that many copies are finding their way up to Ruatoria.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:05am
  - igm
    
    They will not have honesty boxes up that way, and who in their right mind would deliver them?
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:27am
  - Flash
    
    When I first moved from Wellington to Taupo I could’t read the Dom because it wasn’t delivered – Herald territory!
    That was 18 years ago, and I haven’t read a daily paper since.
    
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    June 29, 2018 12:08pm
- Colville
  
  As a lad I delivered the Dom in Lower Hutt before school… And the Evening Post after school.
  People said I was greedy having two paper rounds.
  Not much has changed ?
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:51am
  - KevOB
    
    That would have been a long day.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:15am
    - Colville
      
      A couple of hours a day in a southerly wind wearing short pants will keep a teenager out of trouble tho ?
      
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      June 29, 2018 11:55am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I dunno probably hastened adolescence as your scrotum to grow a thick pelt for the necessary extra thermal protection.
        
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        June 29, 2018 2:15pm
      - Viking2
        
        UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I dunno probably hastened adolescence as your scrotum to grow a thick pelt for the necessary extra thermal protection.
        
        Nah, my recollection is that when one wanted a set of balls you needed a kidney punch to make them come out in the cold.
        
        Certainly didn’t make the fuzz grow.
        
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        June 29, 2018 8:13pm
secondcumming

As my father in-law said when he read this, “Just another hopeless decision from a piss-weak left leaning judiciary”

Here’s a low-life *Pedo* from Tauranga, who could be facing 10-14 years in jail, granted BAIL by the judge!!

I found it just a little ironic that dirty prick is even named after a disease…………

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1012128443641815045
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June 29, 2018 8:12am
- kowtow
  
  Piss weak ? Yep . 9 years 10 months is effectively 5 years.
  
  5 years for murder ?
  
  And they call the Sensible Sentencing folk loons?
  
  ‘Madams is serving a nine year, 10 month jail term after being found guilty of the murder of Whanganui Black Power president Craig Rippon in Whanganui in 2016.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/horror-taranaki-crash-victims-named
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:33am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes and Labour want to ease up on sentences.
    
    In China they just executed two guys for drug dealing in a large stadium. No appeals, no delays just 2 bullets!
    
    That is a war on drugs!
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:09am
    - holysheet
      
      Yeh but all the drug stuff is sent from China to us here. If they really had a war on drugs they would stop the export of this shit.
      
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      June 29, 2018 9:15am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        US claims that Chinese Govt is backing the Export of Fentanyl (which kills in even quite small doses) to deliberately damage the West.
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:38am
      - GazzaW
        
        Has the US hit it with a 25% tariff yet? 😉
        
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        June 29, 2018 11:30am
redeye

I’m wondering if we’ll see Alison Mau ramping up her #metoo movement in support of Louise Nicholas? Or our Minister for Women question Nash over this appointment?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12079622

One officer told the 2004 Operation Austin investigation into the police sex allegations that Haumaha, who was appointed to the senior role by Police Minister Stuart Nash last month, described Nicholas’ allegations as “a nonsense” and that “nothing really happened and we have to stick together”.
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June 29, 2018 8:23am
- secondcumming
  
  Time to baton down the hatches.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:29am
- Harkman
  
  Ali Mau is a socialist, she only attacks sexual impropriety linked to non-socialists.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:57am
  - DJ Ward
    
    She’s a blinkers on Feminist so as long as the target is male, anythings possible.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:36am
- kowtow
  
  Like the new Dim Post mast head , Wally is the police’s.
  
  It’s all about appearances.
  
  Like the queer cop proposing to his whatever , totalling upstaging the guy in the feather cloak.
  
  Diversity , ain’t it great.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:01am
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny kowtow the bros are dominating the space left by the absence of the silly little girl with the uncle Tom Police appointment. Then comes one from one who putts from the rough: “Labour MP Tamati Coffey says Parliament should consider introducing a Minister responsible for rainbow issues.” OMG sure that is Kermit singing that famous Rainbow Connection in the background? Expect that there might be a scream soon about rainbow connections being the subject of a song now not acceptable in PC circles . Ops that was an unintended result of accumulated references to poofs, connections and circles. Round, Round Baby.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:03pm
- Inandout
  
  Helen had Assistant Commissioner Clint Rickards all set up to become the first Maori Commissioner, but was hobbled by Nicholas and her inquiry. Wally is ready to assume that role when Bush steps aside, in the name of diversity of course.
  As an aside, NZ did have a Police Commissioner in 1955 who was a Controller General. Now the Commissioner is once again a political tool.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:33am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Helen had Assistant Commissioner Clint Rickards all set up to become the first Maori Commissioner, but was hobbled by Nicholas and her inquiry………
    
    Rickard was hobbled by his own piss poor behavior.
    I would have sacked him on the day of his court appearance, when despite being ordered otherwise he appeard in uniform.
    
    Rickards is a shining example of what happens when appointments are made based on the colour of the appointee’s skin, because diversity and shit.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:49am
    - lifesgood
      
      Rickards = disgrace.
      
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      June 29, 2018 12:50pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        Setting somebody up in a car park, getting them to make some consoling, go away, leave me alone comment, filming it, was propably a disgrace. Using it in court as the equivalent as testimony under oath, now that’s a disgrace.
        
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        June 29, 2018 7:39pm
    - Inandout
      
      Helen was very disappointed in him, and his tattoos at the time (quite rare for police then) drew attention to his reported teenage conviction as a burglar. Does a leopard ever change its spots?
      
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      June 29, 2018 3:13pm
      - Sideoiler
        
        ….his tattoos at the time (quite rare for police then) drew attention to his reported teenage conviction as a burglar. ……
        
        There in lay the problem, he was never a suitable candidate to be a policeman, but he is brown and a different standard was applied
        (the bar was lowered)I have no doubt that all other things being equal he wouldn’t have been accepted had he been white.
        He always reminded me of a gang member in a blue suit
        
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        June 29, 2018 3:47pm
  - RF
    
    I would like to be a fly on the wall at Police HQ this morning.
    
    I hear there are a couple of very worried senior officers who if it is to be believed forgot / neglected to advise Stuart Nash of Wally Haumaha’s comments concerning Louise Nicholas and her rapists.
    
    Not saying that Nicholas was squeaky clean years ago but Haumaha’s comments should have been disclosed prior to his promotion. If they had been disclosed I doubt that he would have been promoted.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:50am
    - kevn
      
      @RF… There was a senior police appointee.
      
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      June 29, 2018 11:59am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I doubt they thought Nicholas would speak up.
      All so long ago and she’s been working with them for years – to improve the culture of the organisation – so that makes her one of the boys and she must be over it by now, surely.
      Turns out she isn’t.
      More work to do Louise.
      
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      June 29, 2018 1:54pm
    - DJ Ward
      
      Carefull!
      They were not found guilty.
      Is a person tried but found not guilty still guilty because it suits you.
      Her rapists? Who are these people your slandering.
      
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      June 29, 2018 7:45pm
  - realityczech
    
    In the eyes of informed and reasonable people Nicholas is a serial rape accuser and former police groupie who changed her mind years latter.
    
    She was up for it at the time this stuff went on. Not my thing personally, but not rape either.
    
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    June 29, 2018 12:54pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Your comment is neither informed nor reasonable.
      Complaints were laid and buried.
      Nothing to do with changing her mind years later.
      Then there’s the little matter of the rapists having form.
      
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      June 29, 2018 1:59pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Shaun – you don’t keep going back to the same place – week after week – to be “raped.”
        
        It didn’t become “rape” until umpteen years later when Rickards was in line for a top job.
        
        All of a sudden the dollar signs lit up, and those weekly dalliances from the past became “rape.”
        
        Nicholas appears to be a lucid and intelligent woman – to have not realised for more than 20 years that she had been “raped” is beyond me, and many others !
        
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        June 29, 2018 3:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        Shaun the ignorant – I remember when this first came out the media correctly advised us about her long history of rape complaints against the police and others.
        
        My favourtie yarn of hers was how she changed towns and a whole new group of cops started raping her… ya know as they do. Also some young Maori boys if I recall.
        
        What you are doing is repeating the later media spin and lies.
        
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        June 29, 2018 5:45pm
      - realityczech
        
        The real scandal is the lack of police action regarding Labour getting children drunk and sexually abusing them at a rally.
        
        Or doing nothing after naked and terrified young boys go running through the streets of Wellington after being sexually assaulted by Labour Party officials.
        
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        June 29, 2018 7:51pm
    - Inandout
      
      You sound like a confused leftist. Nicholas accusing police: bad. Actresses accusing Weinstein: good.
      
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      June 29, 2018 3:18pm
- Piniwi
  
  Ah redeye somebody else noticed the backlash from the uncle Tom appointment of the Police 2IC. It is drawing more than just a dyke and the Media party as well: “The Government has announced that an inquiry will be held into the process that led to the appointment of the Deputy Commissioner of Police.” Yet another inquiry into another dodgy appointment. Lets do this.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:50pm
hullkiwi

This morning on Red Radio, it was thete for all to hear just how tasteless JAG’s comments about the Taranaki fatal accident were.

Readers will recall the sad fatal car accident near Katikati 2 years ago on SH2. Well the then Minister of Transport promised funding & plans were prepared upgrading of the highway. However, in the words of the former mayor for the area, with the change of government, the plans changed and the funds evaporated and are now going into Auckland.

So JAG, you hypocritical b***h, stop blaming the previous government for not investing in road safety, when we can all see, it is your own actions as Assoc Minister that will continue to cost lives on NZ roads.
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June 29, 2018 8:27am
Right of way is Way of Right

Well, here’s a salutary tale of what happens when the broadcasting rights for a major sports event are secured by an internet service provider.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/optus-makes-massive-call-to-give-sbs-rights-to-all-world-cup-games/news-story/465da6cbecb824a307188fcd940e7f24

Optus got the rights, and then when it came time to put up or shut up, they bottled it. End result, the broadcasting rights have been picked up by a free to air broadcaster.

This gives me great cause for concern at the upcoming Rugby World Cup, and the awarding of the broadcasting rights to Spark. I don’t have fibre in my area, although nearby houses do, my street doesn’t, which is interesting given it is a major thoroughfare. The Spark website enthusiastically informs me that I am due to have Fibre installed immediately prior to the RWC, but I’ll believe that when it happens.

Also, my broadband tends to slow down at peak use, and at some times, viewing live sports is a frustrating experience which would only be enhanced if my favourite player was a guy called ‘Buffering’. This is seldom the case.

Has Spark bitten off more than it can chew?

I’d hate to want to watch the RWC as a rural broadband subscriber. If I’m having problems living in a major suburb just north of Aucklnad, those who live in the wops are really going to struggle!
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June 29, 2018 8:28am
- VicParking
  
  I’m not a spark customer. Does that mean I will see zilch of the World Cup.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:51am
- Harkman
  
  You guys need to find on line channels that show foreign channels that have the tournament free to Air.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:01am
  - GazzaW
    
    ……and then we have to suffer shite Pommy, Saffa or Aussie commentators who either hate or know fuck all about NZ rugby culture and our players.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:38am
    - Harkman
      
      Mute perhaps?? I was more referring to like French channels etc
      
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      June 29, 2018 10:46am
      - GazzaW
        
        Love ’em or loathe ’em I want to hear Nesbit, Marshy and Smithy and listen to their local knowledge and familiarity with the AB setup.
        
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        June 29, 2018 1:06pm
    - Piniwi
      
      But Gazza is has to be better than what Quinn used to offer as a commentary where the best result was the TV turned down and accompanied by the radio broadcast.
      
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      June 29, 2018 9:14pm
- hullkiwi
  
  RowiWoR, we live in Rodney and have a rural broadband package with a small network company. Our system is wireless microwave, so we don’t have the problems others encounter with the two Telco companies. Our problems tend to be very rural centric, like electricity supply failing or possums etc getting into the electrics.
  
  So, will just have to see how Spark/TVNZ measure up.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:31am
- 4077th
  
  Having been through the same issues with ASDSL2 last world cup I changed to VDSL. The problems persisted. they were addressed as follows:
  1. You are at the mercy of Sky’s content servers and any traffic overload they might experience. Buffering may occur due to issues below or the providers server/s being swamped.
  2. WiFi in your house may be slower than you think. Try to change the broadcast channel on the router especially if you are in an area where there are 10 or more houses with WiFi in close proximity.
  3. Never rely on WiFi if you are watching a big game or something you simply cannot have interrupted. Use a cable (Ethernet) wired directly from your router to your viewing device (where applicable)
  4. If you haven’t already, go to VDSL it will provide double the speed of ADSL2.
  5. Use the app. That is, if the content provider has an app, use that in place of a browser. Browsers require all manner of security plugins and suchlike that it can make for problems when viewing.
  All of the above (for the most part) solved my issues.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:11am
  - GazzaW
    
    That’s all well and good for the likes of us 4077th but dear old auntie Mavis and the average Joe Blow just want to turn their TV on and watch their rugby game which as citizens of a first world country is not an unreasonable expectation.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:44am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      In the context of this discussion you can call me Joe Blow. Just the mention of things like ADSL, WiFi, VDSL, Ethernet etc. scrambles my brain.
      
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      June 29, 2018 12:01pm
      - Poppa
        
        Mine too Capt.
        
        I suspect I will be reduced to watching replays if they are on
        
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        June 29, 2018 1:40pm
      - 4077th
        
        Happy to impart advise at any time. I have spent many years in IT and always happy to help if called upon..
        
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        June 29, 2018 1:45pm
    - 4077th
      
      Agreed, and I wish things would just work without all the technical convolutions. Sadly these things don’t seem to be getting any simpler.
      
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      June 29, 2018 1:50pm
Paulus

Not being a supporter of Rugby at all I do not care.
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June 29, 2018 8:33am
holysheet

A young man and his date were parked on a back road some distance from town. They were about to have sex when the girl stopped. “I really should have mentioned this earlier, but I’m actually a hooker and I charge $20 for sex.” The man reluctantly paid her, and they did their thing. After a cigarette, the man just sat in the driver’s seat looking out the window. “Why aren’t we going anywhere?” asked the girl. “Well, I should have mentioned this before, but I’m actually a taxi driver, and the fare back to town is $25…”
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June 29, 2018 8:46am
jcuk

nor me … more important things to worry about
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June 29, 2018 8:54am
Poppa

The NZ$ seems to be on a fairly steep decline at the moment

Another petrol increase is just around the corner folks
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June 29, 2018 8:54am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like to see a breakdown of all the taxes on our petrol.
  Years ago it all went into the Consolidated Fund.
  Then I think they changed it so that it all went to roading.
  Is this True?
  I suppose the GST portion goes to the Consolidated Fund
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:18am
  - KevOB
    
    It all does.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:19am
    - DigNap15
      
      It all does what?
      Please be more speficic
      
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      June 29, 2018 10:56am
      - Batman
        
        It’s ringfenced. So what is collected via fuel taxes etc, goes to transport.
        
        Though it’s worth noting that the new government’s policy allows more public transport and rail investment. So guess what, we’re all paying for light rail in Auckland, and subsidising KiwiRail.
        
        The flip side is less funding for state highway improvements, though they claim they’ll put more into regional roads and safety, it remains to be seen if that stuff will get priority ahead of Phil and JAGs wet dream tramway in Auckland
        
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        June 29, 2018 1:55pm
- Piniwi
  
  Right Poppa and the handy XE app graph shows it has now slumped below the previous low for 12 months when the COL was formed. Tracking steadily down to clickety-click 66 which just might prompt some imaginative methods being adopted for foreign buyers whose buck buys more for less.
  It might also see a rise in the accident rate as more agitated motorists go further more frequently for cut rate fuel. Those damn Fool Factors (unintended consequences) messing up such good intentions as those aspirations remain illusionary. Meanwhile the crude price has again started to rise after a minor pause adding even more potential for a rush of increases. The question still remains unanswered “is Goof calculating on getting $0.11.5/litre as it keeps being quoted in the Media mob?”
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

Kiwi currency at fresh two-year low after dovish OCR review. Meanwhile, the EUR is keeping pace with teh USD. But Fed member now hearing “full-throated angst” about prospects for the US economy | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/currencies/94550/kiwi-currency-fresh-two-year-low-after-dovish-ocr-review-meanwhile-eur-keeping-pace

By Jason Wong

The NZD has nudged down further in overnight trading, sustaining further losses since the RBNZ’s OCR Review yesterday, while CAD is a notable outperformer. US equities and US 10-year yields are higher.

The NZD has pushed lower overnight to a fresh 2-year low of 0.6746 and currently sits close to that level. Multi-year or multi-quarter lows were reached for a number of currencies over the past 24 hours, mainly those of emerging markets and even the likes of AUD and GBP, as the USD recovery continued. In the case of the NZD, an added downward force was provided by the RBNZ’s OCR review yesterday. … read more via hyperlink above …
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June 29, 2018 8:57am
- Harkman
  
  The RBNZ has had a political takeover, the OCR should be raised to over 3% not the 1.75% it currently is. The CPI is completely misleading. NZers income is down nearly 10% in USD since the election (who would have thought) while oil, food, rent, electricity and rates are all up. In short we’re already poorer.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:08am
  - Colville
    
    Great news if you happen to own a bloody great pine forest tho ??
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:55am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      … NEW ZEALAND: IMPLOSION OF CONFIDENCE IN LABOUR – LED GOVERNMENT …
      
      Staggering naivity damaging government … Mike Hosking … VIDEO
      
      https://www.facebook.com/MikeHoskingBreakfast/videos/2008978269135724/
      
      Governments housing idiocy since Christmas … Hugh Pavletich
      
      http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/General%20June.html
      
      Gloomy ANZ business confidence clouds NZ interest rate outlook – NZ Herald
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12078833
      
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      June 29, 2018 10:46am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Come on team, give Hugh an uptick when he deserves one.
        
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        June 29, 2018 10:49am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … In contrast … great news at the local level … May Building Consents …
        
        Surge in new dwelling consents in Auckland could be the beginning of the end for the region’s housing shortage | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94554/surge-new-dwelling-consents-auckland-could-be-beginning-end-regions-housing-shortage
        
        There was a surge in the number of new dwelling consents issued in May, particularly in Auckland where they hit a 15 year high, Statistics NZ says.
        
        Around the country 3407 new dwelling consents were issued in May, up 25% compared to April and up 22% compared to May last year.
        
        It was the highest number of homes consented in any month since June 2004. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-may-2018
        
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        June 29, 2018 2:13pm
  - Piniwi
    
    @Harkman olg Hugh started with something right by his reference of a dovish OCR review but it is no less than we might expect from the new Governor of the RBNZ. Early days but the fridge seems well stocked with Koolaide.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:41pm
- 4077th
  
  The flip side Hugh, that business’ like mine that export 99.9% of our products means the customers are paying less and therefore sales will improve (as is traditionally the case with us). It’s not all doom and gloom. NZD has been artificially high for many years. It’s about time it started to get back to realistic levels.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:17am
secondcumming

An early pic of *Bob Marley* on the trip that inspired him to start up a band…..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyBidjXkAAHCNw.jpg
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June 29, 2018 9:01am
- waikatogirl
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:02am
- stephieboy
  
  secondcumming, does his dark skin get to you?
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:07am
  - Harkman
    
    You’re a racist.?
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:11am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Let secondcumming tell us the point behind his post.
      
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      June 29, 2018 9:13am
      - secondcumming
        
        No steph, it’s not his ‘dark skin’….it’s the pot belly
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:30am
      - Ed Snack
        
        I really shouldn’t, but do you know the name of Bob Marley’s band ? Think, say it out loud, and then think again….
        
        You really don’t get humour…
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:44am
      - DJ Ward
        
        He’s hoping Whale Oil uses it for a new background on his site.
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:49am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Ed Snack
        
        Try with pictures
        https://cheezburger.com/6598452736/bob-marley-and-the-whalers
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:51am
      - realityczech
        
        The “point” stupidboy is that Marley ruthlessly slaughtered whales.
        
        I have no idea why you thought his skin colour mattered though?
        
        ➡ Tell us; Is whale meat Halal?
        
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        June 29, 2018 12:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Is whale meat Halal?
        
        Absolutely it is.
        https://muslimvillage.com/2014/11/19/59232/halal-whale-meat-muslim-tourism-takes-off-in-japan/
        (unless the whale is preggers)
        
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        June 29, 2018 3:11pm
  - Lance
    
    stephieboy and Psycho must the sucking the same lemon.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:15am
    - holysheet
      
      I was talking to a guy from Belfast last night and he told me that he was a member of the lemon order.
      “Surely you mean the orange order,” I said.
      “No,” he replied. “We’re more bitter than them.”
      
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      June 29, 2018 9:19am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      yeah, having a lemonparty*
      
      *do not look up lemonparty on google. You have been warned.
      
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      June 29, 2018 2:18pm
- Fletch
  
  It was a close-run thing apparently. He almost made the decision while dining out and we almost had a group called Bob Marley and the Waiters.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:58am
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An exceptional editorial from the “Hooreld” focusing on some of the many of the glaring deficiencies of the US President. A rogue and unpredictable being who has created in that great nation unprecedented divisiveness that makes Sir Robert Muldoon look like an Angel of Mercy.

We are told that,

”The man who promised to make America great is making America very nasty. The greatest challenge for those opposing this President is not to sink to his level of rude and vindictive politics. That is a challenge that has eluded some Americans over the past week.

Donald Trump’s Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielson, was hounded from a restaurant by protesters and the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, was refused service in a restaurant whose owners did not want her there.
These things do not happen in mature democracies. No matter how impassioned political arguments become, protagonists normally recognise each other as people with personal rights that ought to be respected.

Nielson might not be well known outside Washington DC but Huckabee Sanders appears on television conducting White House press briefings just about every day. She serves an impulsive, inconsistent President given to abusive tweeting and absurd assertions of fact. She does her best to put a reasonable face on it all with professionalism and patience.

“Even at the height of the Vietnam war protests, we have not seen such a President who bears a message of conflict. discord and dissension.

House minority leader Nancy Pelosi struck the right note, criticising the restaurant owners’ refusal to serve the White House press secretary as “predictable but unacceptable”.

And finally,

Her colleague, Congresswoman Maxine Walters, went the other way, telling a crowd, “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them.”

That, of course, was up Trump’s alley. He called her “an extraordinarily low IQ person” who had “just called for harm to supporters …” and had “become, together with Nancy Pelosi, the face of the Democrat Party”.

That mix of insult, falsehood (implying she called for physical harm) and unfair smear of Pelosi by association, is his style. Americans need to raise their sights to make their politics great again.”

Well done Editor . Brilliant! A major contribution towards exposing the poisoning of political discourse and intelligent discussion in that Great Nation.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12078811
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June 29, 2018 9:01am
- Harkman
  
  Are you excusing the left’s blame in all this? Is it Trump’s fault Steve Scalise was nearly murdered (he still isn’t recovered)? What about the “Not my President” movement that started before he was in office and all the inauguration day protests. Looks to me like the left was never going to give him a chance.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:16am
  - matchbox
    
    The Herald editorial logic is the same as the one which blames rape victims for their own demise based on what fashion the victim was following. You know, the logic that conservatives bring public disorder upon themselves just by voicing conservative points of view. And women bring rape upon themselves just by being women.
    
    Or if you like, the Muslim justification for mass raping of Western women.
    
    But one way street applies. As a pinko, you can eject conservatives to your heart’s content as you self-deceive that the conservative brought it upon themself.
    
    But if as a conservative, you dare to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding … … oh no, that’s different isn’t it Herald — only leftist POVs allowed.
    
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    June 29, 2018 11:30am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  There’s plenty of truth in this, but it started much earlier. Before Trump was president there was Hillary’s ‘basket of deplorables’ and Obama saying middle America was full of bitter people, clinging to guns and religion. But it goes back much further than that.
  
  The New York Times has openly backed the Democratic candidate for President every election since the 1950s. If even the paper of record can’t be impartial you end up with people only looking at news sources that confirm their own biases. That’s how you end up with extreme partisanship and why it is absolutely correct for Trump to try to break the cycle by going after the media.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:23am
- Ed Snack
  
  Of course Waters wasn’t calling for physical harm, and if someone did go a little far and actually hurt someone, why, that would just be an unfortunate accident (Steve Scalise; cough cough).
  
  Encouraging mobs and mob violence is perfectly OK see, as long as the right people are targeted. And if those people happen to “push back”, why, it’s all their fault not accepting that they’re morally deplorable and deserve general public opprobrium. A little “bit of the bash” is what they deserve, after all, they’re the violent ones.
  
  Now all I need to know is why Waters and the Democrats are so precisely following the same playbook that Joseph Goebbels and others followed in Germany in the early 1930’s, and why Antifa and the other goons use black instead of brown for their shirts.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:52am
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    ES
    
    Why? Because they seriously believe that they’ve ‘thought’ of it entirely by themselves and it is ‘New’ and ‘Exciting’.
    
    I would suggest that very, very few of the Dems (if in fact any) would give any thought as to what has gone before (pre-WWII Germany etc.), but are rather responding to the current ‘moment’ and the need (indeed obsession) to remove Mr Trump. Ms Waters hasn’t gone back in hisory, she’s gone back in ‘Maxine’ and is merely reflecting her own personal views and expereince, with the knowledge that, if carefully used, violence will go some way to solving the Trump ‘problem’. Notably (and in classic Marxist fashion) she is never, ever present at such places and takes great care to distance hereself from anything that occurs.
    
    The MSM are, of course, totally in support.
    
    One wonders what her reaction will be should she lose her seat in November? I suspect she will do a ‘Hilary’..
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:53am
  - Fletch
    
    It was surreal to watch the video of Waters, really, telling people to “form crowds and push back” against members of Trump’s Cabinet, etc, and tell them “they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere”, essentially telling them they have to ride in the back of the bus. Does she not, in her little mind, equate this with what was done to blacks before civil rights?
    She must be out of her mind.
    
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    June 29, 2018 11:02am
- 4077th
  
  Fake News
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:22am
DigNap15

I wish the Herald would have a Comments feature like Stuff

I wish Stuff with have a Printing feature like the Herald.

I wish they’d both try to stop being like the Woman’s Weekly.
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June 29, 2018 9:07am
- stephieboy
  
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  DigNap15, just focus on the arguments raised by the editorial instead of petulant nitpicking.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:08am
  - DigNap15
    
    I should have started my comment as a new comment.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:10am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    …instead of petulant nitpicking.
    
    Says Kiwiblog’s premier petulant nitpicker 😀
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:21am
  - 4077th
    
    Hahahaha..FFS Stephanie, looked in a mirror lately?
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:23am
- Paulus
  
  The revamped piss poor Bay of Plenty Times has stopped printing letters – they interfere with their left wing political writers – with daily doses of the left and perceived by them famous such as the failed UK MP Gould who gets a whole page of crap weekly.
  I am not allowed to cancel as my wife wants the Cryptic crossword daily.
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:04pm
EAD_TWO

“Menstrual leave: a workplace reform to finally banish the period taboo?”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/menstrual-leave-period-taboo-work-reform-women-health

Mark my words this will be the next big thing the “Globalists” push till saturation so it’s normalised despite the astronomical absurdity and therefore we accept it despite hating it.

Transgenderism went from nowhere since the death of Magnus Hirshfield to the most pressing issue of our time in no time for example.

Expect within a couple of years that women will take a sickie at work, whenever they like probably, and whaddya going to about it you misogynist?

I always wonder what’s coming next and unfortunately what we would think of as unimaginable six months ago is coming to fuck up society that bit more tomorrow.
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June 29, 2018 9:08am
- stephieboy
  
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  EAD TWO, what about just keep focussing on the Jews first and what your Nazi movement will do to them?
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:11am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    FFS Stephiegoy,
    
    These Globalists must love useful idiots like yourself who lap up all of their bullshit from homo “marriage” to gender bending to menstrual leave and actually take it seriously thinking your rebelling against the system.
    
    You are the system – your state of being is little above that of cattle.
    
    THIS is literally the state of your mind:
    
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/21051899d7a4380a3ee6942885f135784ec0b30debe0fbe83c5d4a10fec1eca9.jpg
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:21am
  - holysheet
    
    Stooopidboy got an internet advert asking if he wanted to improve his sex life.
    He answered all the questions and waited for the advice.
    It was a short answer.
    Change hands.
    
    Every day you post shit, I will repost this to remind us all how much of a wanker you really are…
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:23am
- igm
  
  We, as collective venture, no longer employ females unless absolutely necessary. This will be the norm in many workplaces as time progresses.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:34am
- MrLovebucket
  
  I might have to “identify” as a female every so often at work so I can claim my menstrual leave then. I hope it’s paid.
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:50am
  - Piniwi
    
    But MrLovebucket is that before you get your 10 days paid leave for getting bashed? Expect it might become sequential for some since P smoking is OK in their state house.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:55pm
- DJ Ward
  
  At least if they do have menstrual leave we can give labour credit for visionary thinking. They’ve started training the ‘are you telling the truth’ testers at thier youth camps.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:01am
  - Piniwi
    
    Expect DJW there will be a bit of massaging of the term menstrual before it gets to the stage of drafting the legislations.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:58pm
Harkman

Just to piss the Democrats off and really cause them to explode (or implode), he should interview Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court ? naturally he shouldn’t nominate him (a real hardliner instead) but the trolling of the Democrats would be priceless. ?
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June 29, 2018 9:20am
- ztev
  
  Actual votes in Senate are with McCain sick
  51 republicans
  49 democrats
  
  Trump has to choose a justice to get the last few
  GOP votes that are most of risk of voting NO.
  
  As Scalia was matched by Gorsuch, but a more swing judge like Kennedy wont be matched by a hard right judge no matter what Trump thinks
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:53am
Longknives

So Wally Huamaha doesn’t get his promotion because Louise Nicholas doesn’t like him? Because of comments he allegedly made 15 + years ago??
Louse Nicholas is a Police Victim’s advisor.
How in the hell does she get to storm into the Boss’s Office and call a ‘Crisis Meeting’?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12079622

I saw an interview a few years ago with Louise Nicholas where she made a comment to the effect of ‘I spent years fighting the Police and now I’m their Boss’.
The woman is arrogant, deluded and dangerous.
Wally Huamaha should take a PG against NZ Police..
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June 29, 2018 9:23am
- G152
  
  Well the police should have thought of that when they belittled her claims and said the things they did when they did.
  Now he’s ‘regretting’ his comments made at the time ?
  Really?
  So why did he make them in the first place unless he thought them pertinent ?
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:39am
  - sam green
    
    Louise Nicholas’s dogged persistence changed some of the filthy culture that was the Police in the 1980’s. All credit to her – those guys (you know who they were) were mongrels. That Haumaha supported them at the time needs challenging – all credit if he has made the changes. Good on her for the challenge.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:10am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      I was appalled at the time of the way that the Jury was denied knowledge that a few of the accused in Nicolas’s rapes were already serving sentences for similar abuse and rapes.
      
      I know, malarky about fair trials etc. But I think that it actually stands against justice to hold this sort of info from a jury. A pattern of behaviour like that is hugely indicative of someone being an evil shit, similarities in Modus Operandi are strong evidence and seems like exactly the type of information that Jurors should have. The privileged position of Judges and counsels in this is an archaic stupidity in our more enlightened times.
      
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      June 29, 2018 11:31am
  - Jack5
    
    I found this interesting in Commissioner Bush’s written statement to the Hooerald. He’s writing about Wally Haumaha:
    
    “”He emphasises our values of empathy, diversity at every opportunity both with staff and the public. “
    
    As long as Wally chases the bad guys and gals as well as sieving out non-multiculturists.
    
    You don’t think… you don’t think the Lefty Government might move Bush sideways to be Dame Devoid’s successor? Ow!
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:55am
- plc
  
  The Rotorua Police Station in the 1980s was a disgrace.
  
  Rickard, Shipton, Schollum et al threw one of their own constables under the bus for the behaviour they were indulging in.
  
  Check Evening Post front page stories from 1987 for rape conviction of young constable who took girl home from Rotorua police social club. No excuse for the constable involved but bloody low to prosecute when you are guilty of same behaviour. Huamaha would have been aware of this at time and comments to Operation Austin probably suggest an underlying view.
  
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  June 29, 2018 12:59pm
GazzaW

Surely we can expect a bulletin to be posted today regarding the weight increase of the Royal Baby.
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June 29, 2018 10:27am
- MrTips
  
  That’s a rude thing to say about Clarke! 🙂
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:03am
- backster
  
  You could buy the Womens Weekly…Me I never will.
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:09am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  WTF?
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:08pm
- Poppa
  
  Yeah I have been patiently waiting for the next episode
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:25pm
- Piniwi
  
  But GazzaW we must wonder at the silence since getting behind closed doors after so much click bait was foisted on the public almost at an hourly rate? There seems to be a very loud silence which could mean a blanket thrown over the bad bits? They have resorted to old Armstrong to ensure the hearts grow fonder by getting her image out there.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:15pm
Philview

I have just been reading about a murder committed by a 17 year old “girl”. She told a friend beforehand
“Lewis told her friend that she and Karauria were planning to take an Indian for a drive and kill him”
This is the mentality of the sort of people the Coalition would rather not have in prison. Teenagers who brag to their mates about taking someone for a drive and killing them.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105076081/teenaged-girl-pleads-guilty-to-hatching-plan-to-murder-man-she-matched-with-on-tinder
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June 29, 2018 11:02am
- Longknives
  
  Holy shit!
  Worth a read that- An absolutely horrific crime.
  Then contemplate that the guy only got 12 years in jail.
  Guarantee an animal like that will come out and kill again…
  
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  June 29, 2018 12:49pm
  - GoVege
    
    And we’re bankrolling it all, Long knives.
    I think this one surpasses “horrific ” and moves into “pure evil” territory.
    
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    June 29, 2018 2:53pm
- GoVege
  
  Same old story: hard-working immigrants robbed and beaten/stabbed /murdered by lazy, bludging, unemployable no-hopers dragged up on benny and bashed/molested by mum’s multiple boyfriends while the “adults” spend the kids’ benny money on drugs, booze and fags.
  Couldn’t they at least WARN naive new immigrants not to be so trusting?
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:47pm
Captain Mainwaring

Commo Campbell going to TVNZ.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12080140

Reason #54987 not to watch the Labour Party’s propaganda channel.
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June 29, 2018 11:10am
- 4077th
  
  Jack Tame and the airhead deserve the big-eared twat. Yet another reason to give TV1 the arse card.
  
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  June 29, 2018 1:56pm
- Paulus
  
  No RNZ programme to be taken over by the new left wing blond chic from TV3 somebody called O’brien who recons she is the new political guru in town. after 5 minutes.
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:08pm
  - sooty
    
    Don’t watch that either!
    
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    June 29, 2018 5:20pm
Anne Glen Eden

Kyle MacDonald is a PC protagonist with a dangerously facile opinion; so much so that he shouldn’t be calling himself any sort of ‘professional’ in my opinion, certainly not one in a ‘caring’ profession.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12079224

He starts with a basic truth for most of us which should be heeded.

“More and more recently I’ve been feeling like I have outrage fatigue. But when we struggle to stand up for ourselves, that anger can “turn towards the self” – as the psychobabble goes – anger turns into self-attack, and as depression takes hold outrage morphs into a sense of despair and helplessness.”

But his answer? More ‘outrage’. Take your ‘feelings’ and use them to scapegoat someone, anyone, who ‘offends’ your views – because you are a ‘good’ person.

“And what I say to people struggling to work their way out of depression, applies to those of us right now, outraged and despairing about the state of the world. Do something. Take action. Because I might be tired, but I haven’t lost hope. I believe good people can make a difference, but only if we use our outrage as fuel, rather than drowning in it.”

Yeah, right. Every ‘outraged’ person is fully informed and ‘right’, about everything. They don’t have to investigate or even think about it. The MSM, globalist liberals, and PC minorities tell you what are the ‘right’ values and views. All you must do is let yourself be enraged and target those scapegoats – and you’ll have your ‘mojo’ back and you won’t be depressed. Troy Skinner just made contact with his ‘outrage’ and acted on it. So does every terrorist, every shooter, every knifer – everywhere.

And that’s not counting all the petty little trolls and scapegoaters who make other people’s lives hell by removing their autonomy – causing their depression in the first place. Should you choose a view which doesn’t accord with the ‘right’ values, you’ll be savaged and shredded but you won’t have to worry about depression. You’ll be far too busy fighting for survival, if necessary physically, possibly against your own suicidal impulse.

The biggest problem with Kyle MacDonald’s answer is that it’s not only a pretence; it’s a recipe for violence. People get depressed because they feel powerless and controlled by someone or something. His answer is to pretend that they’re powerful and ‘free’ to express themselves by directing them to attack someone else. It’s a natural impulse and aren’t people doing that in every greater numbers? They didn’t need him to tell them, they’ve discovered it all by themselves – like Troy Skinner, ISIS, and those responsible for the current slaughter going on in London and everywhere else in the world, our growing prison population being no small example.

The answer to depression is an individual feeling they are valid human beings who can be comfortable in their own skin, have autonomy in their life, support themselves and dependents, that it’s in their control, they can make a valid contribution to their community and society, hold their own views and still maintain positive, respectful relationships with others and enjoy life. It’s live and let live, cooperatively, supportively and not feeling that you have to cure the ills of the whole world and everyone in it.

The answer is the opposite to the nightmare Kyle MacDonald is promoting – the PC, socially fragmented, stunted and witch-hunting environment of the ‘thought Police’.

Kyle MacDonald’s statement is – ‘If you want to survive, mentally, emotionally, and physically in this world, accept total outside control of your life, live within its parameters, relieve your despair by persecuting those who don’t, or you’ll find yourself someone else’s scapegoat’. That’s the source of depression. All people need more genuine say in their lives and society, not less.

Of course, ‘the outraged’ are all out of control now, so you could find yourself in that position anyway – anywhere, anytime. Yesterday it was Troy Skinner in Philadelphia. Today, it’s Maryland. London has turned into an increasingly lawless bloodbath. ISIS have been pretty ‘outraged’ for quite some time and there’s plenty of others around – and growing daily.
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June 29, 2018 11:13am
- Jack5
  
  Kyle Macdonald pops up as a columnist and talkback host.
  
  MacDonald at one stage suggested John Key was not fit to speak on issues of domestic and sexual violence following Key’s involvement in a radio stunt that made him the fall guy in a prison rape joke.
  
  Kiwiblog pointed out MacDonald did a very friendly interview with Tom Scott of the group Homebrew, AFTER Scott had released his song about wanting to rape the daughter of the then Prime Minister.
  
  MacDonald is a psychotherapist, not a psychiatrist. I don’t know what psychology qualifications MacDonald has but on his clinic web site he is listed as having “BA; MHSc(Hons.)”
  
  Some psychotherapy techniques are used by mainstream medical professionals, but, on the other hand, some controversial treatments are classed as psychotherapy.
  
  The Royal College of Psychiatrists does have a faculty of Medical Psychotherapy comprised of psychiatrists.
  
  Here’s an American professional medical guide to psychiatry, psychology, and psychotherapy as practised by recognised professionals there:
  
  https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/guide-to-psychiatry-and-counseling#1
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:56am
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    I wouldn’t blame psychotherapy per se. It has the same range of individuals as any profession. There are those completely immersed in the ‘disease’ who can’t or won’t recognise it and happily go about spreading it, and those who stand outside it and can.
    
    I’ve posted John Calhoun’s work before.
    “In crowded conditions, a social hierarchy developed: One despot male and 9 females claimed the two defensible pens with only one ramp provided; 60 others crowded into the other 2 pens with two ramps. Calhoun found that “rodent utopia” rapidly became “hell.” He described the onset of several pathologies: violence and aggression, with rats in the crowded pen “going berserk, attacking females, juveniles and less-active males.” There was also “sexual deviance.” Rats became hyper¬sexual, pursuing females relentlessly even when not in heat. The mortality rate among females was extremely high. A large proportion of the population became bisexual, then increasingly homosexual, and finally asexual. There was a breakdown in maternal behavior. Mothers stopped caring for their young, stopped building a nest for them and even began to attack them, resulting in a 96 percent mortality rate in the two crowded pens. Calhoun coined a term—“behavioral sink”—to describe the decay.
    
    “Life in an unnatural urban environment of ever-increasing density could result in the complete devastation of humanity. He noted that even when population levels dropped and more space became available, the community never recovered. “Even when healthy rodents are placed in the new environment, they never breed successfully again.”
    
    In an attempt to refute the validity of these results for human beings, “psychologist Jonathan Freedman recruited high school and university students to carry out a series of experiments that measured the effects of den¬sity on behavior. He measured their stress, discomfort, aggression, competitiveness and general unpleasantness. Freedman suggested a different conclusion, though. Moral decay resulted “not from density, but from excessive social interaction”. It was the unwanted unavoidable social interaction that drove even fairly social creatures mad, he believed.”
    
    No-one with a rational mind can fail to note the similarities between those experiments and what’s happening in the world. How is all that different from 1% of the richest own 50% of global wealth or, in NZ, the top 10% of people own 60% of the wealth. Even the 1 despot male being accompanied by 9 females – that’s progressing all the time. The majority of the population are shoved into ever smaller and more crowded ‘boxes’. The advent of social media and intrusion of political correctness means it’s difficult for anyone to ever have any privacy anywhere, and there is certainly little opportunity to ‘exist’ in any way independently or autonomously.
    
    And in Kyle MacDonald’s case, he’s suggesting that the answer to individual pathology is for them to become more aggressive to others they don’t agree with, to force more ‘unwanted, unavoidable, excessive social interaction’ on themselves and others. In my opinion, he’s taken the perspective of one of Calhoun’s pathologically disturbed rats, encouraging others to spread the same pathology as far and widely as possible.
    
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    June 29, 2018 1:30pm
    - GoVege
      
      Very interesting, Anne.
      (See….I do uptick you now and again!)
      But you know what’s the cause?
      All these idiots pontificating about going out and multiplying.
      They’re more daft than the psychotherapists….
      
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      June 29, 2018 1:53pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        I confess, GoVege, following your thought processes is as challenging as reading the Daily Express but I can (disturbingly) normally see some lateral connection in your comments.
        
        In this case, I have no idea what you’re referring to. You think someone should tell the rats not to ‘multiply’? I don’t think they’d listen. More to the point, they’re not intending to – which is why they kill their offspring. They’re just dementedly attacking and exploiting each other – be it in outright violence or sexual aggression. Reproduction just happens to be the inevitable result of that particular act.
        
        Then again, perhaps that is what you’re getting at. That is what human beings are doing also.
        
        If it’s God you’re talking about, I don’t really think that’s what He had in mind when he said ‘Go forth and multiply’. It’s like someone starting a sheep farm with a breeding pair. In the first instance, the farmer will do anything to encourage breeding. Once the paddocks are full, the farmer tends to control the process and limit that breeding ability and/or population accordingly and responsibly.
        
        Of course, human beings, when thinking about themselves, feel hard done by when faced with such limits and call it ‘unfair’. It’s their ‘right’ to do whatever they want, when they want, how they want, and to whom they want. They refuse to recognise the pathology of their own behaviour and, in fact, the more the pathology increases, the more they call it ‘normal’ and pursue it as a common social ‘good’ and their ‘right’.
        
        Ah well, perhaps that’s why every past civilisation is dead and ours is dying. It’s suicidal behaviour.
        
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        June 29, 2018 2:36pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        As a further thought, if you were to conceive of a ‘Satanic’ plan to destroy humanity (in eternity as well as the ‘here and now’), you really couldn’t formulate a better plan. But perhaps humanity will feel supremely satisfied to scream the epitaph ‘It was my right!’ into the ether.
        
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        June 29, 2018 2:54pm
      - GoVege
        
        I’m sorry Anne.
        I thought the horrible experiment with the overcrowded rats was meant to be an example of what happens to other species….in particular our own….when forced to live in an unnatural environment and be subjected to unwanted, unavoidable, excessive social interaction.
        Chaos…more or less.
        I wouldn’t blame God for overpopulation….more the corrupt priests who urge the fools who listen to them not to limit their breeding, but especially the sexism rampant in most human societies which allow males to dictate to women that they should remain barefoot and pregnant. …constantly.
        
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        June 29, 2018 4:39pm
      - sam green
        
        Jaysus – it’s Ayn of Green Gables. The sovereign individualist’s sovereign individual.
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:28pm
Fletch

A new report has been published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation and written by public health expert Dr Mikko Paunio regarding that plastic pollution in the oceans.

He says that this pollution can be mainly attributed to green policies and recycling. Much of the stuff that is “recycled” actually ends up leaking from the recycle chain and/or is illegally dumped or burned out in the open making the problem worse.

The answer is incineration, which has gotten to the point now where emission reductions are very good.

Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden – [all] have major waste incineration capacity and now landfill less than 3% of their [Municipal Solid Waste] MSW.

Here is one of the case studies from the report that highlights the problem –

These problems are epitomised by the story of waste management in the Italian region of Campania. Here, there was a long political struggle over the direction of waste policy. Greenpeace and other green utopians were strongly in favour of MBT waste policy, despite the known environmental problems. There was an aggressive campaign, led by a local schoolteacher named Rossano Ercolini, against the alternative approach of high temperature incineration. Eventually, the greens won out, and in 1997 a policy of MBT treatment was selected. No incinerators were built.

As we have already seen, when the EU Waste Incineration Directive was introduced, coincineration became uneconomic. But with no specialist incinerators having been built, Campania now had noway of disposing of RDF at all. As a result, it was dumped; first in legal landfills, then in illegal ones, before finally being left at the MBT plants, where it piled up until there was no longer any space. Ultimately, hauliers refused to take MSW from homes and businesses; they could not deliver them at MBT plants that were already overflowing with RDF. Then the fires started: people started to burn waste at source, and there were suspicious outbreaks at both legal and illegal landfills. As a result, much of Campania was severely contaminated with dioxin, and officials had to ban locally produced dairy products which had become contaminated.

Civil disorder broke out and the military had to be called in to help. RDF had to be exported to other countries – including Sweden – at astronomical cost. There was long-term reputational damage to the region and the legacy of illegal waste management activities still haunt the area. Despite playing such a central role in bringing the disaster about, Ercolini was feted by the green movement, the BBC labelling him a `hero’ when he received the 2013 Goldman prize.

[E]nvironmentally conscious countries such as Austria, Belgium, Finland, Germany, and the Netherlands, and in particular Denmark and Sweden, have dealt with the waste problem by building vast networks of incineration plants.

Incineration stands apart as the best way to deal with MSW. Because it does not require waste to be sorted, it does not suffer from the problems of leakage that are found with almost every other approach. Moreover, modern MSW incinerators are designed to burn everything, including even sewage sludge, an important source of plastic pollution (including microplastics) in rivers and the ocean. As a result, Campania has been able to deal with its mountain of RDF – as we have seen, a mixture of mainly paper, plastic, and organic matter
– by shipping it off for incineration.

However, the advantages of incineration are so great that the sorting of waste in MBT plants should be seen as an entirely redundant step. For example, incineration leaves only 15-20% of the original weight in the form of ash, and this can be landfilled directly in specialist landfills, or in standard ones after treatment; much is recycled, for example as roadbuilding materials. And although new EU legislation stipulates that by 2030 only 10% of MSW can be landfilled, the success of the incineration approach means that some European countries are already landfilling less than 3%.

Incineration plants are required to have very low emissions levels, and as a result incineration is healthier and more environmentally friendly than any of the waste management options supported by green ideologues. The whole Swedish incinerator network (32 plants in 2009) emitted only about half a gram of dioxin in 2009, which is 200 times less than in 1985. One deep landfill fire of the kind that was seen across Campania can emit almost as much dioxin as the Swedish incinerator fleet produces in a year. Moreover, mixed MSW incineration is by far the best waste management option if one is concerned about greenhouse gas emissions. This is due to the simple fact that if you put mixed waste, including plastic packages or organic waste, directly to incineration you can effectively reduce the need to burn coal or natural gas. Despite this, both environmentalists and the European Union vehemently oppose incineration, arguing incorrectly that it increases carbon emissions.

https://www.thegwpf.org/new-report-recycling-plastic-waste-is-making-ocean-litter-worse/

The Report – https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/06/Save-the-oceans.pdf

As per usual, green policies are based on what they think is good for the environment without actually following up and judging by the results. Ideology trumps reality.
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June 29, 2018 11:29am
- rangitoto
  
  For sure the best way to deal with unwanted plastic is to incinerate it.
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:33am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Good read, know there were efforts to get MSW incinerators working in NZ 20-30 years back, killed by Nimby’s and Green fuckwittery. It is the only rational solution.
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:50am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Is there a way the incinerator can be hooked up to a power station (like Huntly) to produce electricity?
    
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    June 29, 2018 12:43pm
    - Fletch
      
      Well that is what is happening in Sweden. They are burning rubbish to produce electricity. They were so efficient they even ran out of rubbish and started importing it.
      
      https://www.facebook.com/namelessnetworksavetheworld/videos/399629030530529
      
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      June 29, 2018 12:55pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Sure, use it to heat steam same as is done in a coal powered station. About $50 electricity per tonne of waste, and cuts waste stream volume by up to 80%. So waste actually becomes almost cost neutral and a non-problem going forward. Would cover <10% of electricity consumption, but is a good complement to renewable energy as can be burnt at times where renewables aren't producing.
      
      Obviously greens fucking hate it due to it's usefulness and practicality and enabling current lifestyles.
      
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      June 29, 2018 1:50pm
noskire

Good grief It’s time we let boys wear dresses: ‘Gender doesn’t matter anymore – it’s 2018!’
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June 29, 2018 12:12pm
MCos

There’s an opinion piece in the NZ Herald this morning about the way the player argue with the referees in the World Cup.
Apparently this sort of behaviour is being copied in the kids grades in NZ.
I don’t know about that, but I remember about thirty years ago reffing half a Saturday morning game of rugby because nobody else wanted the job.
I soon found out why!
These other parents would rather stand on the sideline and yell their sage advice than take on the responsibility themselves of controlling the game.
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June 29, 2018 12:21pm
- Piniwi
  
  Right MCos at schoolboy rugby level it was common for coaches to do a half each but so many other coaches would renege at half time. Then it becomes an even bigger challenge when the opposing side display a sad lack of coaching so needs the “ref” to get behind them to prompt them. Great days.
  
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  June 29, 2018 10:41pm
UpandComer

NZ needs to start thinking about Australia.

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3524/XN%20Crimes%20Amendment%20(Publicly%20Threatening%20and%20Inciting%20Violence)%20Bill.pdf

Here is the new destroy speech law. The ‘Crimes Amendment (Publicly Threatening and Inciting Violence) Bill 2018’ now in force.

3 years prison for ‘public acts’ – ‘any communication, any conduct, any dissemination of information’ about:
Race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, intersex status, HIV/AIDs status (!).

To establish an offence – it doesn’t matter if a public act communicates truth.
It also doesn’t matter if the public act actually affected anyone or led to any physical violence.

So it’s pure speech.

https://twitter.com/VicAlhadeff/status/1010060798910058496?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Here is Vic Alhadeef – CEO of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies. He has spent 15 years trying to destroy speech, and now he’s destroyed it.

Australian Jewry have decided that true statements that don’t affect any one are as serious as : aggravated assault (s 192), poisoning (s200), Pedophile grooming (s200) – see our Crimes Act 1961.

Here is what I find so terrifying about this demonstration of Jewish supremacy and callousness.

In England, Tommy was abducted via spurious, attenuated deployment of contempt of court.
Australia is far worse – now it’s a summary offence to say something the diverse and vibrant, don’t like. Punishable to the same magnitude as infanticide or conspiracy to commit murder.
http://archive.is/LRe05 <– see here: all of these 'hate-facts' could now be considered an incitement to violence in NSW if publicly stated. Three years.

They're not particularly hateful – it's just science about diversity, science about health and other things. All outlawed.
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June 29, 2018 1:17pm
UpandComer

Here is where it’s going to go in Australia.

In England, Amber Rudd the previous Home Secretary said people who read ‘hate-facts’ would face 15 years imprisonment. Sajid Javid of course, is proceeding with the policy. I don’t know whether it’s in force yet. But it will be:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/terrorist-propaganda-criminal-offence-new-law-amber-rudd-streaming-watching-extremist-material-isis-a7979986.htm.

However, the rules won’t apply to muslims in England: Sajid Javid restating Amber Rudd has stated the laws don’t apply to Hizbollah https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11130/uk-free-speech – Hizbollah is excepted. Because that’s legitimate culture/religion.

So we can now foresee the end stage for Australia – and it will be the exact same model as England. Criminalised public speech, preventing any political opposition to the Jews’ preferences. Followed by criminalization of facts themselves. 3 years if you say it, soon to be 15 years for reading it under the blankets.

Australia will never know about the Rotherham Royal Commission Report – because the Jews have decided it’s inconvenient to them. I wonder if such-like is happening in Australia? It could be – we’ll never know.

Because this is their ludicrous mindset: https://archive.is/4eDqe.
https://archive.li/Hzdb8
https://archive.fo/tmuYw
“Few are guilty – but everyone is responsible” – Rabbi Abraham Heschel.

My rejoinder is “Few are innocent – but everyone is blameless” – UpandComer

Remember – Vic the Merchant thinks he has to destroy the Australian ethos because of muslim threats to the Jewish community. So what is his stance on muslims in Australia?

https://www.nswjbd.org/Statement-on-Australian-Refugee-Policy/default.aspx
https://www.jewishnews.net.au/support-for-syrian-refugees/49799

Let every anti-semite in. As many as possible, as fast as possible, as much as the stupid Goyim and their worthless, livestock tier public opinion will allow. Because the muslims are the Jews.

These people aren’t smart. They’re congenitally witless fools. That equivalence. Really!?

So that the Jews in their mansions in Vaucluse, North Shore, Mosman and Potts Point feel ‘safe’ from the impending white Australian Holocaust, you see? The same people who allowed the Jews to comprise 4 of the 5 richest people in Australia – while Australians can’t get on a train and can’t read advertisements written in Mandarin and Middle Eastern Star Wars tongues.

Because there are now more first and second generation migrants then third/fourth gen Ozzies:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/australia-reaches-tipping-point-with-quarter-of-population-born-overseas.

Australia is going to become Diversia – and there is suspicious bi-partisan consensus. support:https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/actu-joins-big-business-endorsing-big-australian-ghetto/

Which is really strange, because guess what 74% of Australians actually want:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018447/Australians-believe-country-support-Muslim-ban.html
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June 29, 2018 1:20pm
UpandComer

Here is where it’s going to go in Australia.

In England, Amber Rudd the previous Home Secretary said people who read ‘hate-facts’ would face 15 years imprisonment. Sajid Javid of course, is proceeding with the policy. I don’t know whether it’s in force yet. But it will be:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/terrorist-propaganda-criminal-offence-new-law-amber-rudd-streaming-watching-extremist-material-isis-a7979986.htm.

However, the rules won’t apply to muslims in England: Sajid Javid restating Amber Rudd has stated the laws don’t apply to Hizbollah https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11130/uk-free-speech – Hizbollah is excepted. Because that’s legitimate culture/religion.

So we can now foresee the end stage for Australia – and it will be the exact same model as England. Criminalised public speech, preventing any political opposition to the Jews’ preferences. Followed by criminalization of facts themselves. 3 years if you say it, soon to be 15 years for reading it under the blankets.

Australia will never know about the Rotherham Royal Commission Report – because the Jews have decided it’s inconvenient to them. I wonder if such-like is happening in Australia? It could be – we’ll never know.

Because this is their ludicrous mindset: https://archive.is/4eDqe.
https://archive.li/Hzdb8
https://archive.fo/tmuYw
“Few are guilty – but everyone is responsible” – Rabbi Abraham Heschel.
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June 29, 2018 1:22pm
UpandComer

Remember – Vic the Merchant thinks he has to destroy the Australian ethos because of muslim threats to the Jewish community. So what is his stance on muslims in Australia?

https://www.nswjbd.org/Statement-on-Australian-Refugee-Policy/default.aspx
https://www.jewishnews.net.au/support-for-syrian-refugees/49799

Let every anti-semite in. As many as possible, as fast as possible, as much as the stupid Goyim and their worthless, livestock tier public opinion will allow. Because the muslims are the Jews.

These people aren’t smart. They’re congenitally witless fools. That equivalence. Really!?

So that the Jews in their mansions in Vaucluse, North Shore, Mosman and Potts Point feel ‘safe’ from the impending white Australian Holocaust, you see? The same people who allowed the Jews to comprise 4 of the 5 richest people in Australia – while Australians can’t get on a train and can’t read advertisements written in Mandarin and Middle Eastern Star Wars tongues.

Because there are now more first and second generation migrants then third/fourth gen Ozzies:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/australia-reaches-tipping-point-with-quarter-of-population-born-overseas.

Australia is going to become Diversia – and there is suspicious bi-partisan consensus. support:https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/05/actu-joins-big-business-endorsing-big-australian-ghetto/

Which is really strange, because guess what 74% of Australians actually want:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018447/Australians-believe-country-support-Muslim-ban.html
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June 29, 2018 1:22pm
UpandComer

The 74% of Australians will be ignored. If they express their views publicly they’ll be imprisoned. If they read material that forms a rationale for those views, they’ll soon be imprisoned.

Because that’s not what the Jews want. Just like in England. They want Israel Zangwill’s melting pot – where the goy are subverted to their particular world view, then subjugated to their will. So they will let shekels flow and use overwhelming state force until they get what they want – which will be an Australia full of Chinese and muslims who don’t think the Holocaust even happened and want Jews out. It’s so strange.

Now, for me to know what will happen in Australia, as a semi-sentient Goy all I need to do is ask ‘Is it good for the Jews’.

Just like in England:
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/06/22/power-without-scrutiny-the-jewish-privilege-that-poisons-democracy/

Vic Alhadeef is now Ehud Sheleg – and the way to a political future in Australia is now through the Australian LFI ‘Liberal/Labour Friends of Israel’. Bi-partisan consensus always means one thing. It’s the uni-party of Australia now. Thanks Gladys Berejiklian! For my own sanity I’m going to think that Dominic Perrottet opposed what she just did to NSW.

So NZ, you now have no choice. There are two books we all have to read and re-read:

The Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald; and

Judaism’s Strange Gods by Michael Hoffman

In seeking to pre-empt anti-semitism, Australian Jewry have guaranteed justified anti-semitism, from people who have always admired them, supported them, and worked with them. It’s a monumental betrayal – Australia has been stabbed in the back. I’m sorry. It has. It’s so disgusting I can’t believe it’s happened. Only a female leader like Berejiklian who is otherwise great would betray their country like this over emotes:

“…it’s queer how out of touch with truth women are. They live in a world of their own, and there had never been anything like it, and never can be…” – Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness.

Kiwiblog has a distinguished audience.

If anyone knows any of the members of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies – please communicate to them that their policy is an extremely bad idea. They need to repeal it. Because it will create exactly what it sets out to prevent. A ferocious backlash where everybody names the Jew. They’ve just given complete credence to every puerile and garish stereotype and conspiracy theory that exists. And it can’t be defended. It is, what it is.

Absent demonstrated loyalty to Australia and NZ and western values – I don’t see how Jews can be considered other then a threat to national and personal security. Because Australia has a China problem, and now they can’t talk about it without going to prison.
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June 29, 2018 1:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer, shall we jump aboard the “ Let’s Blame the Jews” Bandwagon ?.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIesXORjBps
  
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  June 29, 2018 3:07pm
UpandComer

John Key was magnificent because he was able to govern for all New Zealanders – not just his community.

Maori are doing really well now and are great to work with because they aren’t myopically trapped in a world view characterized by a perception of ever impending existential threat to their community.

That’s why Maori in Australia do so well. I wish the Jews would emulate Maori. Honestly, what can you say? I’d work any day with people like DPF, John Key, Daniel Horowitz. Now, Vic Alhadeef has forced people into disassociation. They have to ‘pretend’ they support ideas that it’s now AGAINST THE LAW to criticise.

In Australia – the land our ancestors escaped to or were forced to, to escape the iron clamps of the Penal Laws in England, and class bigotry and repression.

Because what they’ve done and are doing in Australia is madness. It’s turning a completely nonsensical, imaginary existential threat they perceive as a minority, into a very real, very current, very legitimate existential threat for the Australian majority.

Most Australian’s will never know what has been done to them – because Morrie Schwarz and the media gate-keepers won’t report on the implications of the legislation.

John Key didn’t use his mother’s experience to impose on New Zealand an iron-fisted Stasi regime on what we’re allowed to think, say, and do. And he was the most popular Prime Minister in New Zealand’s history. DPF provided some very moving posts about his own family – but he doesn’t use it to push for these laws in NZ, as he could. Because he believes in western values.

My concern is not with ‘the Jews’ but with this behaviour. They have no right to force an iron boot and smash it down on my face because I know what happened to the million little raped girls in England. Or what is happening elsewhere.

New Zealand cannot, and must not allow this.
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June 29, 2018 1:48pm
UpandComer

Because Australia right now is having an existential debate about the future of their society – China? Or the United States? Economy and authoritarianism? or less economy and freedom? If both, how?

There are competing ‘open letters’:

Here is one urging real-politik caution over China’s intentions in Australia:
https://www.policyforum.net/chinas-influence-australia-maintaining-debate/

Here is a tiny fraction of the publicly available bases of the concern and the new national security laws the Liberals are about to pass at the Federal level:

China has been committing extensive espionage in the public service and related to the Australian military and educational sectors:
https://www.smh.com.au/public-service/the-art-of-influence-how-chinas-spies-operate-in-australia-20171203-gzxs06.html

Extensive electoral interference – not imaginary like ‘MuhRussiaDurrr’, proven: https://www.smh.com.au/public-service/the-art-of-influence-how-chinas-spies-operate-in-australia-20171203-gzxs06.html

Intimidation, duress, and coercion of Chinese/Australian students comprised of threats to them, and their families back in China:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/foreign-influence-in-our-politics-must-be-checked/news-story/dbcd1e8f039b0d589fb5a2dbeaffa950

They’ve used political donations and monies transferred to agents to influence government:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-senator-china-connections

Continuing
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June 29, 2018 2:13pm
UpandComer

They have:

Co-opted Chinese community groups to censor discussion amongst the diaspora and increase communist party presence and control:
https://qz.com/194100/how-china-is-trying-to-get-its-citizens-to-censor-themselves/

They are using Confucius centres and other communist fronts in Australian universities to monitor Chinese students, and exploit communist and socialist Australian academics – many of whom happen to be Jewish.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/chinas-confucius-institutes-under-scrutiny-in-america/news-story/8d0bf36fd9671ff7e8926cdc22d5acd8

The Confucius centres are a complete rort. They may as well be a Mafia dry cleaners. The Australian cultural marxist Dhimmi Quisling traitor academy says it would breach their ‘academic freedom’ to have a Ramsay Centre for western civilization studies at USYD. But these same people have allowed Confucius Institutes in every single university where the Chinese Community Party decides: the pedagogy, the research, the administration, and the students. They also get access to all other students’ data through university systems like PeopleSoft.

Perhaps that’s a reason their lobby is criminalizing true statements about their activities.

They’re engaged in extremes of interference with academics – to the extent of forcing publishers to censor books.https://www.policyforum.net/chinas-threat-academic-freedom/

They’re sending cash to Australian celebrities to run pro-China platforms
https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2017/chinas-operation-australia/hard-power.html

They’re covertly organizing North Korea style pro-China government rallies:
httpshttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/australian-universities-fear-offending-chinese-backers-clive-hamilton/news-story/984a9cdadc8f9f7b1d16d47a8d1645cd://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/chinas-censorship-fingers-reach-into-our-cyberspace/news-story/846944042e1e4227782611979a211cae

There is another letter expressing the counter-view.

Academics consisting of Chinese, Indians, Jews and sundry diverse all say that “there is no evidence” of China doing anything bad.

They say ‘racism’ “…ignores Australian society’s own failure to render its mainstream more accessible to diverse viewpoints”. Right – in a country where first generation immigrants now outnumber third generation Australians.

What they’ve also done is by Cyperattack and by infiltration of Chinese-Australian citizens – steal military data related to Australia’s navy, it’s F35’s, it’s submarines, and it’s coastal defences and cybersecurity.

So there is a real debate occurring. China constitutes almost 40% of Australia’s total exports. How do you manage the relationship?

And, how do you conduct a debate when the Jews have criminalised all my statements about as potential incitements to violence? How?

See what I mean? The Jews are now a threat to Australia’s national security. They are. They are a threat to Australia’s national security, and therefore our national security. Until this law is repealed.

I don’t know what Gladys Berejiklian was thinking. They must really need money. Which seems odd, given that they’re doing such a fantastic job in NSW building things.

In 2 weeks Gladys banned young girls handing out fliers and hugging women about to get an abortion – in a country where one third of all pregnancies are aborted. Then she criminalised true statements that don’t change anyone’s mind.

I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she was threatened to act as she has.
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June 29, 2018 2:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer , another rehash of the great communist and yellow peril conspiracy?
  
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  June 29, 2018 3:10pm
Jack5

James Croot lives in some sort of pink-socialist bubble.

Scribbling on Stuff about the return of John Campbell from Radio NZ to TVNZ, he says of Campbell:” … a unifying, rather than polarising figure.”

Campbell, so emotional and gushing you wished you could have an emote button on your controller to mute just him. Campbell who is an old iron Leftist.

Unifying? ???
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June 29, 2018 2:44pm
- MCos
  
  It’s called the change channel butto
  
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  June 29, 2018 2:59pm
Manolo

A socialist’s dream:
https://nypost.com/2018/06/27/ocasio-cortez-wants-to-be-president-mom-says/

Insurgent Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to take her budding political career all the way to The White House, her mother told The Post on Wednesday.
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June 29, 2018 2:59pm
- Fletch
  
  She is also the first one to openly call for the disbanding of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) which has now been echoed by other Democrat leaders. These people really do want open borders and are quite free about saying it now.
  
  As a TV anchor said today, if you let anybody come into your house then suddenly it’s not your house; it’s everyone’s house and then it’s no ones house.
  
  Charles Krauthammer (RIP) recently said that if you build walls to keep people in, it’s a prison. If you build walls to keep people out it’s an expression of sovereignty.
  
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  June 29, 2018 3:42pm
  - Ross12
    
    Then there is this poll run by a Democrat pollster
    which says 84% of voters want illegals turned over to the authorities. It shows there is huge gap between the Democrat leadership and the public on immigration/ sanctuary cities.
    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/394624-mark-penn-84-percent-support-turning-undocumented-immigrants-over-authorities
    
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    June 29, 2018 4:41pm
UpandComer

As I said, protected attribute theory is in force at every level of Australias’ police, military, judiciary, all legacy professions, all major legacy corporations, and all tertiary and educational institutions.

If you don’t sign contracts saying you will positively facilitate the diversity agenda in all of it’s forms, sexual, racial, political (in terms of advocating for expansions of big government, the welfare state, overseas AID to pedophiles and criminals, and destruction of conservatives) you won’t get a governance position.

All of the authors of these policies are affiliated with the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies and their various proxies and subsidiaries and agents.

No, I’m not exaggerating.

As I said before ‘live action role-play’ is not used to evaluate personality merits. It’s used to politically filter undesirables. You will be asked to enact political scenarios – like group discussions on how to divide up a Pizza between the group. Huge groups of the diverse using sophisticated political affiliation and personality matrices monitor you for bad-think. Did you speak over a ‘POC’ (Person of Colour)? Did you ‘not include’ the person allergic to Pizza? Because if someone is allergic to pizza, naturally they have to be the centrepiece of a discussion about to divide up a pizza to eat.

They’ll ask things like, here is a list – pick the political leader best suited to divide up the Pizza. Here’s a hint – it’s best not to choose Winston Churchill or John Howard or even Lyndon Johnson if you can instead choose Evita Peron, or Rosa Parks, or Harvey Milk, or fucking Golda Meir.

These tests ALWAYS include either David Ben Gurion or Golda Meir. It’s so incredibly odd. Always just pick them. If not them, some other foreign devil like Ghandi. Never ever ever pick someone like Churchill or Abraham Lincoln.

Oh, look, here’s another pedophile in the United States who heads an organization ostensibly to prevent child abuse:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5890179/Anti-child-abuse-advocate-arrested-trying-sex-kids.html

He attended Oxford, Columbia, and Juilliard Universities.

Think the same thing isn’t happening in Australia? Think again. Same people.

There is a whole generation of young Australian men now who are like this:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Anakin+Skywalker+dark+side&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSxbG78PfbAhVOSX0KHY9iDv8Q_AUICigB&biw=652&bih=337&dpr=2#imgrc=6A6JoNjnbY3VxM:

These are guys in classes where they are the only white kid, where the Principal’s make everyone perform the Takbir, and where they can’t join the army, and can’t get jobs for government or for legacy institutions because they’re white, straight, males.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5-dkvfJfWI

See them? Young white Australian men aren’t going to fight them for Israel in Syria. Same for Americans. That’s not going to happen.

Vic Alhadeff is a cretin. He doesn’t know the fire that he is playing with. In trying to douse embers he’s thrown petrol on it.

Congratulations Vic Alhadeef.

Now – no one in NZ can listen to ANYTHING the Jews say – because unless John Key or DPF states it, it’s a threat to our national security and sovereignty and our diaspora in Australia.

This is Israel Zangwill’s vision of the Melting Pot. It’s not the vision of Sir George Grey. It’s not indigenous to New Zealand. If they continue down this rode to Bolshevism in Australia, they will suddenly find public opinion has pulled out like a receding King Tide.

He’s playing with fire.

Repeal this fucking Bolshevik law. Now.
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June 29, 2018 3:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  UpandComer, as Pat Condell, suggests go and visit your Doctor.
  
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  June 29, 2018 3:15pm
  - UpandComer
    
    Yeah lol – I’m crazy. Better lock me up for saying words which are all true. Maybe I’m just speaking for silenced Australians.
    
    Whoever passed this law would deserve censure and opprobrium. Absolutely whoever it was. It’s just utter madness.
    
    Australia is the Larrikan country. And they’re trying to turn it into London. No – we all left that third world shit hole nation full of freaks and the deficient to get away from the strictures of class and race and speech.
    
    Now they’re bringing it back. And we don’t want it.
    
    Kerry Packer or someone should stop eating breakfast off of supermodel’s backs and run. They would win. But they won’t. So it will carry on.
    
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    June 29, 2018 3:31pm
    - Longknives
      
      I agree with the sentiment but it’s unlikely to be Kerry Packer..
      
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      June 29, 2018 4:53pm
      - UpandComer
        
        Lol true. I meant James!
        
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        June 29, 2018 5:35pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    go and visit your Doctor
    
    You keep telling people to visit their doctor.
    
    Have you seen a doctor for: (1) your predatory behaviour at St Lukes (which you gleefully reported here at Kiwiblog); (2) your apparent obsession with another Kiwiblog reader’s underwear size; and (3) your apparent addiction to naked photos of the US president’s daughter?
    
    Rather than overwhelm your doctor, I suggest you discuss one issue per session – so at least 3 doctor visits will be needed!
    
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    June 29, 2018 4:38pm
    - nasska
      
      The other perversions would be more the speciality of a Vet practising animal psychology. 🙂
      
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      June 29, 2018 5:42pm
- sam green
  
  Are John Key and David Farrar the only Jews you know?
  
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  June 29, 2018 6:20pm
UpandComer

Lol anyway, believe as you please.

But Australians in NSW woke up one morning, and without realising it, their world was taken from them. They still don’t know.

Because, of course, now it’s an ‘incitement to violence’ in NSW to report on how this law came to be. Pottery.

Kafkaesque.

So Kiwibloggers can make up their own minds based on the evidence.

That’s my opinion – and I’ll die before I see my right to hold that opinion taken from me for the most spurious reasons one could possibly conceive.

Ciao.
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June 29, 2018 3:39pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Kea: erosion of free speech by the evil/ignorant left is a huge problem but the blah blah blah Jew Jew Jews conspiracy, is tedious and unhinged.

Big nefarious conspiracies do not work, the necessary discipline competence and secrecy are just impossible. Armies of SJW wombles working independently or in uncoordinated groups towards misanthropic Marx-inspired goals in ignorance of history and common sense is all that is occurring.
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June 29, 2018 4:35pm
- UpandComer
  
  Do you know how to read?
  
  English?
  
  Anglais?
  
  Can you read English?
  
  It’s not a conspriacy you dumb individual.
  
  It’s a ‘law’, that ‘exists’, ‘now’. This is ‘what it does’. That is ‘who forced it to be passed’. That is ‘the impact on Australian debate’. This is the ‘evidence’.
  
  What does he have to do, come and recite his tweet naked in your bedroom?
  
  It’s not a ‘plot’ or a ‘scheme’ – it’s what’s ‘actually’ happened, like ‘really’ like ‘in real life’ in England.
  
  And it’s ‘exactly the same’ in Australia – just worse.
  
  You can argue with me if you like – but just vomiting up completely stupid ‘conspiracy theory’ conjecture about law that operates with consequences is really really fucking retarded, sir.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF0eONwFn4c
  This shit isn’t ‘not happening’. They haven’t quite got the angle on it yet, but that’s precisely why Tommy is in jail in the first place.
  
  It’s not a ‘conspiracy’ if it’s actually happened bro.
  
  That’s, like, sort of, the basement level of knowledge in debate.
  
  The law is in force. Australian’s are gagged – Vic Alhadeef is super proud of himself.
  
  Just accept the fact. Okay? Accept it.
  
  And protected attribute theory absolutely is in force, exactly as I say it is. Go and download, right now, the UNSW diversity and equity policies. Look at clause 2.4.
  
  Download any of the Australian university policies – they all work off the same template.
  
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  June 29, 2018 4:45pm
UpandComer

I just don’t understand the resistance to the only conclusion. Even the benefactors of this law don’t deny what it is, who made it happen, and what it does. They just say it’s justified.

How exactly can you avoid the Jewish angle on this, when the CEO of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies ‘says’ he’s spent 15 years trying to get it done, and now it’s done? And both parties support it?

It must be a boomer thing. Boomers are a lost cause.

Generation Z is not a lost cause. They have to deal with all the Lacunas in the theories of equlitarianism and the Melting Pot.

This law is a Bolshevik law, it is going to create resentment, deservedly, that it seeks to avoid for absolutely no reason – and if Vic Alhadeef actually cared about his community – he’d stop being a relentless advocate for starting the boats and bringing in thousands and thousands more muslims to hate them.

I don’t know what his problem is.

But he doesn’t care – because he’ll be the reason why Bill Shorten starts the boats in all liklihood – and back we go to the nightmare of Kevin Rudd.

Boomers may not like reality. This is the reality. Okay? This is reality. If you can’t argue, and just blurt bullshit about conspiracy theories, go to the Standard.

Once cunts start being arrested in the streets because their cousin got knocked up by a muslim without ‘continuing consent’ and they said ‘fuck muslims’ then you’ll understand.

All I want to do is be able to work in peace. But I can’t. I have to make myself unpopular on this blog because I say truth people don’t like to hear. I don’t want New Zealand to lose free speech.

Because it’s ugly and it’s awful and it’s happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30363QcHJ-o
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June 29, 2018 5:01pm
- realityczech
  
  The biggest enemy of the Jew is truth. The entire state of Israel is founded on a bed of lies and murder. If people ever find out the truth it will get ugly and they know it.
  
  Ultimately this will catch up with them as it has in the past. The greatest protection for Jews is to stop demanding special treatment and stop shitting on goyim. Be honest and open and go about your religious ways in peace.
  
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  June 29, 2018 6:02pm
  - sam green
    
    Twisted firestarter.
    
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    June 29, 2018 6:12pm
    - realityczech
      
      Tourette syndrome
      
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      June 29, 2018 6:26pm
Happychappy

I wonder how many of people on kiwiblog will run back to Winston and NZ First if they get the drink driving test changed to a higher level. This is the latest in NZ Firsts policy to bribe the voter and have them to return to help them get past the 5% threshold.
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June 29, 2018 5:32pm
Inandout

The Warehouse, the Warehouse, where everyone gets the boot.
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June 29, 2018 5:46pm
nasska

Okay, because someone has to feed the Godwhacked otherwise they sulk: 🙂

A heterosexual couple have won a high court case that gives them the right to have a civil partnership.

Their next objective in a quest for equality, is to find a gay baker, who will be legally obliged to bake them a cake with ‘All queers are cunts’ iced on it.
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June 29, 2018 5:52pm
- realityczech
  
  LOL 🙂
  
  First the queers demanded we stopped giving them special attention, now they demand we do.
  
  How about we ignore the poofters and let them get on with things. No rainbow pedestrian crossings, no parades, just treat them like anyone else.
  
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  June 29, 2018 5:57pm
  - Inandout
    
    How very dare you!!
    
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    June 29, 2018 6:02pm
  - sam green
    
    Well if you had done that in the first place – there would be no issue.
    
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    June 29, 2018 6:22pm
    - realityczech
      
      spam I did and have always been very liberal. You people can do what you like to each others bum holes in my opinion.
      
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      June 29, 2018 6:28pm
      - nasska
        
        Homo…..hetero….farmyard.
        
        That’s us! 🙂
        
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        June 29, 2018 6:30pm
      - sam green
        
        Mine and mrs green’s bumholes are in tact thanks – but hey – I know you like to fantasise.
        
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        June 29, 2018 6:35pm
      - realityczech
        
        spam we are not fooled by your mention of the “Mrs”. You are a raging faggot trapped in a scrawny little lefty vegans body.
        
        Hell even the hideous man hating bull dyke Klarkula had a “Mr”
        
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        June 29, 2018 6:44pm
      - sam green
        
        Your not fooled by anything are you love.
        
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        June 29, 2018 6:51pm
nasska

There’s always been a small percentage of gays who are “show queens”. Even in the 70s when homosexuality was basically illegal there were flamboyant gays & butch lesbians.

I can remember I & three mates walked into the Bistro Bar of the Royal Oak in Wellington one night on a dare when we were over the Hill on the piss. We were about 14 stone apiece but we got groped & propositioned by a gay dressed in something that looked like net curtains! Like raw meat in the pit we were & it didn’t get any better later when we thrown out of Carmens Balcony for misbehaving.

My wife to be was our sober driver for the night. She dined out on the story for years afterwards! 🙂
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June 29, 2018 6:13pm
- realityczech
  
  “Like raw meat in the pit we were”
  
  Well at least you scored. You big cock tease you.
  
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  June 29, 2018 6:31pm
- Johnboy
  
  If you were properly hung like me nasska you’d just have got it out and waved it at the queer bastards and they’d all have backed off clenching their assholes! 🙂
  
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  June 29, 2018 6:51pm
  - nasska
    
    I bet Carmen never hoarsely whispered “we don’t like that sort of behaviour around here darling” before you were unloaded onto Victoria St JB. 🙂
    
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    June 29, 2018 7:04pm
    - Johnboy
      
      I don’t remember that at all nasska! However I do remember while in the Purple Onion, one chilly winters night, that the stripper came and sat on my lap and thrust her ample breast into my face. What else could I do but have a wee nip on her nipple? 🙂
      She went “eek” jumped off my lap and onto the lap of my wifes cousins missus who had short hair and was well wrapped in a large coat! Needless to say they reached a womanly understanding about sticking anymore nipples into other ladies mouths! 🙂
      
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      June 29, 2018 7:15pm
  - realityczech
    
    JB it is little bitches like nasska who surrender themselves as “raw meat in the pit” who ruin it for the rest of the LGBQ community.
    
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    June 29, 2018 7:15pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Nasska’s actually part of the LGBT community rc.
      He once professed to be a “T”ruckdriver old chap! 🙂
      
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      June 29, 2018 7:19pm
      - nasska
        
        Not any old banger either…..I spent 18 years chauffeuring livestock! 🙂
        
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        June 29, 2018 7:24pm
      - Johnboy
        
        You’ve probably seen many more sheeps arseholes than I have nasska. 🙂
        
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        June 29, 2018 7:26pm
Rodney Randall

https://youtu.be/q8itF62yIJg

Hungarian Foreign Minister Challenged on Migration Policy by BBC tard.

PRAISE HUNGARY
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June 29, 2018 6:54pm
- realityczech
  
  I support the right of the Hungarian tangata whenua to protect their culture, spiritual beliefs, land and language. They have a right to self determination free from the colonialism of Muslim hordes escaping Obama’s wars.
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:22pm
sam green

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2018/06/milo-yiannopoulos-who-called-for-vigilante-squads-to-start-gunning-journalists-has-no-regrets-after-journalists-gunned-down.html

Your leader in trouble.
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June 29, 2018 6:59pm
- realityczech
  
  The filthy animal Obama appointed Al Sharpton as a Race Ambassador after he had publicly called for the killing of “crackers”. The stinking beast also supported BLM who also called for the slaughter of “crackers”
  
  Then the mass shootings began along with race riots, murders, rapes and looting.
  
  You said nothing. Creep.
  
  Obama responded by supporting the perps even more vocally.
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:09pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  NEWSHUB?
  
  EXCREMENT
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:16pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Interesting ‘Newshub’ omits reporting the killers dispute with the newspaper goes back to 2012
  But hey why let the chance for a good smear go to waste
  Especially when the mentally weak and ignorant will believe it.
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:22pm
  - sam green
    
    Must be fake news then. Welcome back All. Been on leave?
    
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    June 29, 2018 8:04pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Even if the guy says some crackpot things on occasion, one thing is certain. Feminists (sign on the left) and Clare Currens media lap dogs despise this man and will misrepresent his comments at every opertunity.
  He tells the truth as he sees it. It’s a well informed and very intelligent analysis and criticism of what is happening. Try and debate him and he easily destroys his opponents.
  He uses the lefts modus operandi to great effect. He attacks the individual. The left try’s to do the same to him and have had some success. His arguments and criticisms however are avoided like the plague by the media. I wonder why?
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:25pm
  - realityczech
    
    I have zero sympathy for dead journalists. They have caused the deaths of hundred of thousands, the destruction of entire nations, and destroyed the lives of millions, with their misrepresentations in recent years.
    
    I hate them with a passion.
    
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    June 29, 2018 7:29pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Milo has the verbal and intellectual acuity to be an effective voice, but plays the clown instead. It limits and diminishes him.
    
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    June 29, 2018 8:17pm
    - realityczech
      
      The world has a enough pompous pricks pontificating and posturing. He is smart enough to know that. You are not. So shut up and learn.
      
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      June 29, 2018 8:24pm
    - itstricky
      
      Milo has the verbal and intellectual acuity
      
      Yeah, whatever:
      
      He recently sent $14.88 to a Jewish journalist who’d recently lost her job – 14 and 88 being numbers associated with the neo-Nazi movement
      
      Just an arse-wipe.
      
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      June 29, 2018 8:36pm
      - realityczech
        
        He is a Jew you humourless little idiot. He has the right of “return” to Israel in fact.
        
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        June 29, 2018 9:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Yeah, a ‘neo Nazi’ whose husband is an African American
        What a moron.
        
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        June 29, 2018 10:10pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yes a gay race mixing Jewish “Nazi” LOL 🙂
        
        AoR, this sort of material is what keeps me coming back. And to think we get this sort of comedy for free from Itstricky and his fellow travelers.
        
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        June 29, 2018 11:28pm
Johnboy

Wonderful news! None of us will have to stand in to change Milkeys nappies next week! 🙂
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/105125940/nurses-strike-called-off-after-district-health-boards-improve-offer
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June 29, 2018 7:00pm
- realityczech
  
  Don’t be silly, Milky is in a high security ward and we would not have the required security clearance and training.
  
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  June 29, 2018 7:31pm
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    Not possible. They cut the free internet in the high security wards due to the girls taking pictures of themselves and sending them to the boys.
    
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    June 29, 2018 9:05pm
Viking2

TV1 goes even lower.

Broadcaster John Campbell will leave Radio New Zealand for a new job at TVNZ.

The host of RNZ’s flagship Checkpoint programme joined the station about two-and-a-half years ago. His choice to leave did not come out of the blue but was still “disappointing” for RNZ, chief executive Paul Thompson said.

Campbell would leave the state broadcaster on September 14.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/105111297/john-campbell-resigns-from-rnz-moves-to-tvnz
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June 29, 2018 8:29pm
- rangitoto
  
  “Broadcaster John Campbell will leave Radio New Zealand for a new job at TVNZ.”
  
  Janitor?
  
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  June 29, 2018 9:52pm
sooty

Saw an ad on tv for a new nz cop program. Called cops Paranomal or similar. Cops go in to a house and someone is hanging upside down in the garage. Wife says is that for real? My reply, no cop looks as stuupid as those two. I know that the cops on real nz programs are as thick as a brick and police management should be shot with a ball of shit for letting them go to air. But that show appears to take the cake.
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June 29, 2018 8:34pm
- sam green
  
  I think it’s a spoof sooty. Y’know – comedy.
  
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  June 29, 2018 8:36pm
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    You must have been watching the CoL government.
    
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    June 29, 2018 10:03pm
Rodney Randall

http://www.forfreedomworld.com/2018/06/15/video-migrants-refugees-are-outraged-as-denmark-passes-a-new-laws-that-force-them-to-find-jobs-or-leave-the-country/

PRAISE DENMARK
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June 29, 2018 9:24pm
Jack5

What’s up with this report in the Hooerald?

The heading reads: “Nobel prize winner Thomas Nash becomes social entrepreneur in residence” (referring to Massey University).

The report goes on:

“Disarmament activist Thomas Nash is best known for his Nobel Peace Prize, but now he has a new role as New Zealand’s first social entrepreneur in residence at Massey University.

Nash won his Nobel Award in 2017 for a joint international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons.”

However, on 7 October 2017, Stuff reported this:

“An advocacy group’s long fight to ban nuclear weapons is in the spotlight after being awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.

“The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons was awarded the prize after its group of Geneva-based activists was recognised for its role in pushing for a United Nations treaty declaring the weapons illegal.

“People all over the world have been involved in the campaign, including New Zealander Thomas Nash.

“Nash, a Green Party candidate from Palmerston North, was just one of thousands of people involved in the campaign.”

The Nobel Prize web site itself says the 2017 Peace Prize was one by the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN).

The ICAN site does not include Thomas Nash in ICAN’s staff team of six. One mention on the site describes Nash as a member of ICAN’s international steering group.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12078204
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Manolo

The obese Moore is a complete clown:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-moore-we-have-to-put-our-bodies-on-the-line-to-stop-trump
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June 29, 2018 10:16pm
- realityczech
  
  So he wants to stop the democratically elected president. That makes him an enemy combatant and a threat to national security and freedom. This is happening on US soil right now.
  
  They shoot Afghan goat herders for less.
  
  I have always said that given their level of violence, dealing with Trump haters is not a matter for the civilian authorities. This requires a military response.
  
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  June 29, 2018 11:35pm

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