General Debate 26 June 2018

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Keeping Stock

An arrest in the Labour Party summer camp case; good news all around.
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June 26, 2018 8:03am
- Poppa
  
  So who will he be related to?
  
  Name suppression anyone?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:09am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Here’s the relevant Newshub story.
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/06/25/130989/arrest-in-labour-party-sex-assault-case
  
  The alleged offender will appear in court next week. I’m sure his brief will apply for name suppression, even though that would cast suspicion over any other 20yo males who attended the camp.
  
  Does anyone still think Andrew Kirton’s departure from the Labour Party last Friday, less than 24 hours after Jacinda’s baby arrived, was a coincidence?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:14am
  - stephieboy
    
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    NO !
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:25am
    - VicParking
      
      All this bad news means an early start at Frasier House today.
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:52am
      - cmm
        
        Poor buggers were working all hours the weekend. Where’s the union to keep them on 40 hours a week with adequate rest breaks?
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:56am
      - KiWombat
        
        – – and now we know why cmm !!
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:14am
    - Harkman
      
      Only a monumental moron would not see the political cover up.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:03am
      - KiWombat
        
        – – and we have a couple of those frantically attempting to defend the indefensible right here and now !
        
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        June 26, 2018 3:51pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Wait, did Our village idiot just agree that he doesn’t believe Andrew Kirton’s departure was just a coincidence? Or has his 12yr old level of reading comprehension let him down yet again?
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:44am
  - cmm
    
    Does anyone think that keeping this ball in the back of the scrum until Jacinda is safely out of the shitstorm is a coincidence?
    
    It does not need to take 3 months to make an arrest when there are multiple witnesses and the perps are known.
    
    It does however take three months for:
    A) Kirton to sort out an exit strategy and fix up alternate employment – something he would struggle to do in the middle of a court case that potentially underlined his lack of management/judgement.
    B) Jacinda to sprog and fill the papers with warm cuddly stuff and important questions like Why didn’t they spell Naimh correctly?
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:26am
    - kowtow
      
      If that is the case then this is a police state.
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:29am
      - freethinker
        
        5 Months to decide to prosecute and then the possibility of the “Judiciary” suppressing the name of the accused will reduce trust in both and close the gap in trust with politicians. Perhaps the NZ Police is becoming a branch of the Labour party.
        
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        June 26, 2018 12:59pm
    - artemisia
      
      Heh. Niamh.
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:43am
      - cmm
        
        Like I fucking care
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:47am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Maybe this arrest is why Winston conveniently missed his tv interview with Duncan Garner this morning.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:27am
  - Flash
    
    Well, the names of ALL the age-relevant attendees could be published (anyone got a list?) and systematically removed –
    
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    June 26, 2018 2:55pm
    - sooty
      
      Is it the ginger one?
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:11pm
- Simon
  
  The victims were at an evening gathering after a day of workshops and briefings from Labour luminaries including Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern at a venue near Waihi.
  
  Part of the Ardern speech to Young Clown, “youse youf are the futura”
  
  mountain” of alcohol available and the party involved adults and young people, including school students.
  
  Ardern ended her speech with “Climb the Mountain of Alcohol”
  
  Labour Summer Camp workshops. Shudder.
  
  How can this been happening in NZ in 2018?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:16am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Simon , the facts are it can. Plus there are no ridiculous claims there is a conspiracy to suppress the evidence or interfere with the Police investigation.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:28am
    - Harkman
      
      Well considering Labour HQ is paying you to state that, it makes it even less convincing.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:06am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The evidence there had been assaults was suppressed by the Labour Party hierarchy for weeks.
      Don’t you remember, stephieboy?
      https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/03/labours_lies.html
      You’ve been running distraction/deflection on the issue here on KB often enough.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:21am
- igm
  
  Fairfax have once again suppressed news we are entitled to see.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:18am
- cmm
  
  Did Kirton get a heads-up from the cops?
  
  If so, they seem to be playing it really cozy these last few months.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:20am
  - Simon
    
    Children under Labour’s care were given alcohol and then allegedly sexually assaulted. Then to the detriment of the victims Labour tried to cover up the alleged offending.
    
    “Andrew Kirton’s departure from the Labour Party”
    
    However Labo deemed the real crime is that the camp showed Princess in a bad light. Everything to protect Princess including fucking over the victims. Scum.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:28am
  - stephieboy
    
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    cmm, nope!
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:29am
    - cmm
      
      And you can back that up with ?????
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:32am
      - stephieboy
        
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        cmm, I can confidently say that this is Police investigation and a police-initiated prosecution. The victims will get there day in court on 5th of July for you to salivate and slobber over.
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:59am
      - cmm
        
        stephie: You have confidently asserted that the cops didn’t give Kirton any warning.
        
        When asked to back that up, you come out with some bullshit about something entirely different.
        
        So you would seem to be talking crap, as usual.
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:04am
      - Swifty
        
        cmm – it’s his usual tactic.
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:44am
G152

Now we have a six month wait to find who the perp is
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June 26, 2018 8:05am
- MCos
  
  Don’t you mean wait until there’s a conviction?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:18am
  - igm
    
    Even then some lefty judge will decide it may harm his employment or elderly parent and suppress his name indefinitely; like the guy that thieved off Labour but continued in high profile local government positions thanks to suppression orders.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:20am
    - Paulus
      
      igm
      Has this comment anything to do with the Taxi chit ex MP thief who is at a pinnacle in Local Government ?
      Or is this another one?
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:39am
      - igm
        
        Don’t get me banned again.
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:46am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Every 20 year-old male who attended the Labour Party camp is now under suspicion of being a groper. All will have made it known among their peer groups etc that they went.
      
      In fairness to them, the alleged offender should not apply for name suppression.
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:57am
      - igm
        
        KS: Does a self-entitled lefty ever consider anyone else other than themselves?
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:57am
      - sooty
        
        At least he an equal opportunity groper.
        
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        June 26, 2018 5:18pm
  - VicParking
    
    permanent name suppression no doubt to protect the poor sole because of daddy and the defendends university studies. Top QC to defend with evidence suppressed to protect victims.
    Also: the alcohol issues should now be addressed.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:01am
    - suzieq
      
      What do fish have to do with this?
      
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      June 26, 2018 3:42pm
- stephieboy
  
  G152 , it goes to trial next month on the 5th.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:30am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It doesn’t go “to trial” Stephie. If the accused pleads not guilty, it’s likely to be at least a year before there’s a trial.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:58am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Keeping Stock, get yourself informed of the facts,
      
      Arrest over Labour Party youth camp indecent assault – report
      
      “Police said a man has been arrested and and bailed to appear in court on four charges of indecent assault, following an investigation into allegations relating to the summer camp.
      
      The man is due to appear in the Auckland District Court on 5 July.
      Labour Party President Nigel Haworth commented on the arrest: “The Labour Party backs the decision of the police to lay charges against an individual relating to allegations of indecent assault at the Young Labour summer camp earlier this year.”
      
      “The Party’s internal report, prepared by Maria Austen (formally Berryman), is focused on the Party’s policies and procedures around the summer camp, if they were properly applied, and how we should correct any deficiencies…”
      
      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/360414/arrest-over-labour-party-youth-camp-indecent-assault-report
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:21am
      - cmm
        
        As KS says, appearing in court is not the same as being on trial.
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:41am
      - Swifty
        
        Why do you choose to come here and embarrass yourself every day?
        
        What KS said is correct. There is no trial scheduled for July.
        
        Why are you so stupid? Did your mother not teach you to read properly?
        
        Just what is your malfunction?
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:47am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        The Party’s internal report, prepared by Maria Austen (formally Berryman), is focused on the Party’s policies and procedures around the summer camp, if they were properly applied, and how we should correct any deficiencies…”
        BUT no mention of the law relating to the supply of alcohol to minors.
        Typical Labour, the only rules, they feel should apply, are the ones they MAKE UP themselves.
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:56am
      - Rich Prick
        
        That the Labour Party has or needs policies and procedures for sexual assaults speaks loudly about the state of that particular Party.
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:02am
      - stephieboy
        
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        cmm , splitting hairs I believe. Any accused has an opportunity to respond to police charges by entering a plea of guilty or not guilty. Depending on that a date for a trial or sentencing is set down.
        
        RW Capitlalist . I’m sure that the review will include issuse like supplying liquor to thsoe undergage.
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:10am
      - starboard
        
        Just imagine if these sexual assaults happened at National Party event.. Those dregs and ferals from liarbor and the strandard would be spanking themselves daily and screaming from the rooftops…and speaking of spanker, where is ztev… “Hello tev.. come in squirrel”… **tumbleweeds**
        
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        June 26, 2018 11:02am
    - calendar girl
      
      It wouldn’t surprise me if there were remands and suppressions of names stretching out over a further couple of years.
      
      With careful manipulation, this case may not see the light of day until after the 2020 General Election.
      
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      June 26, 2018 2:58pm
  - VicParking
    
    Nothing will happen before the baby gets her first tooth.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:02am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      That’ll be fun too, will keep the bad publicity in the media for years.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:49am
- cmm
  
  The sexual assault is not the primary crime. The sexual assault is an almost inevitable consequence of the real crime.
  
  So what was the real crime? Handing out booze to underage kids in an unsupervised environment.
  
  Where are the charges on that front?
  
  Hold a summer camp for teens and it is inevitable that a bottle or two of something will be smuggled in, but this was different: a culture of making a lot of booze available to kids.
  
  Not just a glass of wine or sensible beer with a diner, but lots of booze – to the extent there are reports of kids throwing up in the bushes and feeling sick the next day.
  
  Of course things will get out of hand and a grope or two will ensue.
  
  If the perps legal team are any good, they will be able to deflect a lot of the blame back onto Labour and a lot of that would splatter on Our Mother and Kirton.
  
  Note for the slow of wit: I am not condoning the groping. Merely pointing out that this sort of shit is what happens when you herd together a bunch of boozed up teens with no supervision.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:45am
  - softail 1450
    
    CMM, Its gotta be a twisted little fuck that gropes both male and female kids , but then again that is a liberal trait, “Gender uncertainty”.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:12am
  - stephieboy
    
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    cmm, get your self a job in the Crown Law Office.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:23am
    - cmm
      
      No thanks.
      
      It seems people in the Crown Law Office have their hands tied behind their backs and cannot serve society effectively even if they want to.
      
      I am able to provide lots of value to society doing what I am doing.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:43am
      - stephieboy
        
        cmm ,
        
        “I am able to provide lots of value to society doing what I am doing.”
        
        Yawn.. Such as ?
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:15am
      - cmm
        
        stephie: You have absolutely no idea of how your life would turn to shit if the software I have written over the last few decades suddenly stopped working.
        
        Software I’ve written is used in electrical supply systems, cell phones, cell phone towers, internet routers, printers, cars, planes, communications satellites, farming vehicles…
        
        If that stopped working, you wouldn’t have the internet to babble away on. You wouldn’t have electricity. You couldn’t take a dump (not that you need to since you wouldn’t have food to eat). You wouldn’t have fuel or water.
        
        Now I’m not taking credit for the whole internet (or phone system etc), but the software I have written performs a critical function in that.
        
        Maybe my claim to have added a wee bit of value to society has some validity.
        
        Your contribution would be?
        
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        June 26, 2018 12:16pm
      - axeman
        
        Walphy’s contribution is to ogle a young girl’s breasts at a mall and then serve a penance back at St Albans.
        Lolololololololol
        
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        June 26, 2018 2:36pm
hullkiwi

The Peter’s view of the world equals something completely different to what everyone else sees.

For example, more stop works, threats of strike action in 9 months (A total of over 36,000 working days so far) is not more than 27,000 working days lost under National over 9 years.
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June 26, 2018 8:10am
- Philview
  
  Peters was given an easy ride on RNZ this morning. His comments were later one of the news stories on the RNZ 9.00 am news. The story was structured along the lines that the Coalition Government care and listen and that is why we have industrial action now. The direction that RNZ now take as a propaganda mouth piece for the Government is concerning.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:17am
  - lifesgood
    
    They’re terrified of him. They don’t like hearing “Now listen here, sunshine” Lol. Bloody pack of useless, lefty whimps.
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:32pm
- Bullion
  
  Turns out National didn’t check the stats they put forward: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/26-06-2018/fact-check-has-there-been-more-striking-in-9-months-of-labour-than-9-years-of-national/
  
  The best year to illustrate this is 2016, which has a suspiciously low number of “employees involved in strike action” – 430.
  
  The stats are bullshit, because if you were to compare the two figures, you’d almost completely wipe the tally just with aviation security workers. They very, very nearly went on strike in the middle of 2016, then called it off at the absolute last moment. I asked the PSA about it and they told me that out of 900 unionised workers overall, 700 were set to strike – some of the workers were represented by the union E Tū. So if the catergories are the same and the comparison was being made in good faith, it’s not credible to say the numbers are correct. This is especially the case when you consider that Auckland bus drivers also went on strike in 2016.
  
  But not only that, the stats are also flat out wrong. Because in 2016, 3000 junior doctors went on strike!!! 3000! Three thousand!
  …
  But it does go to the heart of the credibility of such a claim – if one year is out by so much, then it’s difficult to have much confidence in them.
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:28pm
secondcumming

There are obviously some truly *filthy bastards* in the Queen City. So if you live here, or intend visiting, this expose from the NZH last week is certainly worth repeating.

You need to avoid these joints….LIKE THE PLAGUE 🙁

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1010083499150401536
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June 26, 2018 8:12am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Eat out at your peril’ has always been a saying. Of course the bigger the city the less a bad review means, whereas in a small town their reputation would suffer. If only diners knew what went on in even the best kitchens they would gag.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:19am
  - MCos
    
    Are you suggesting that all restaurant kitchens are filthy or the ones in people’s homes?
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:29am
    - Inandout
      
      Why split hairs, or in this case, menus?
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:53am
Inandout

A teacher was ‘disrespected’ by camera toting students.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1zK8zRCPo
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June 26, 2018 8:13am
- stephieboy
  
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  The Catherine Tate Show.
  
  BBC documentary?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:35am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  C’est brillant.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:47am
waikatogirl

Winston has been told by Duncan Garner not to bother turning up for the weekly Tuesday interview at 6.40am on TV3 after not making the appointed time for the 2nd week. Duncan said if Cindy could make it into the studio by 6.40am while 39 weeks pregnant then it isn’t good enough that Winston can’t get there. He said they will find someone else to attend.
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June 26, 2018 8:14am
- Inandout
  
  He also mentioned The Goof would arrive really early for an interview. Desperate for exposure?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:21am
- holysheet
  
  He is just living up to his name “The Drunken Dwarf”
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:22am
- igm
  
  Get Mark Mitchell or Judith Collins.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:22am
  - stephieboy
    
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    All the usual KB clowns!
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:36am
    - holysheet
      
      Stooopidboy got an internet advert asking if he wanted to improve his sex life.
      He answered all the questions and waited for the advice.
      It was a short answer.
      Change hands.
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:40am
      - skyblue
        
        Spoofyboy’s father had a wank. The flies did the rest.
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:04am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Robbo has been offered the time slot on TV3. Aren’t we lucky! // ?
    
    The feedback has been running all the same way. Nobody is happy with Winston’s shenanigans.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:44am
- VicParking
  
  I understand his top up (Ref: Holy) does not fully take effect before 8am
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:07am
- oldpark
  
  Even worse Barry Sopers mrs who goes under the name of HDPA,was heard on the radio pleading for her hubbys drinking mate PETERS not to be asked too many hard questions by MSM while he sits under the heading of his self promoted position PM of NZ. HDPA dosn’t want the two faced bastard to have hurty feelings with people being mean to him.
  Where was she when Peters shafted the fixed income old age pensioners after they give him their votes. How about their hurty feelings.Even bordering on Elder Abuse.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:23am
peterwn

Christchurch Airport has a leaky hotel! It is still under construction but is running late and allegedly water from leaking drainpipes has damaged work in progress requiring wall linings to be removed.
Warren & Mahoney are the architects (Chch Town Hall and Michael Fowler Centre) and Fletchers the builders, so what could go wrong? Surely a hotel building is not exactly rocket science.
Christchurch airport (ie the Christchurch ratepayers) is building the hotel to lease to an operator. So possibly there could be a legal dust-up at some point in a Justice Precinct courtroom (same architects and builder and also delayed).
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June 26, 2018 8:18am
- MT_Tinman
  
  75% ratepayers, 25% taxpayers.
  
  Fletchers is renting the hotel rooms until completion to avoid paying penalties so the rate/tax payer is protected – unlike the ChCh Hoteliers who will have the local council and NZ competing against them if it ever gets finished.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:30am
- Disillusioned_Voter
  
  I understand that the leak was due to testing the drainage systems (which requires blocking certain elements) on a night that coincidentally had a lot of rain.
  So, a procedural foul up rather than a design one.
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:09pm
Monique Watson

Both ‘Neve’ and Feelz are trending on Urban Dictionary. What a coincidence. 🙂
Meanwhile in a classic case of, “Are you smart enough to beat a 5th Grader”, the 9th Grader, my son bought it to a Stalemate. I was stalking up saying: “Take the Pawns up on the Left Flank”. Five minutes later, Dad is saying the same.
Sometimes have trouble with a TV remote but if you can spot a good chess strategy, you’re not doing too badly.
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June 26, 2018 8:18am
- stephieboy
  
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  Neve is a highly original and different name unlike Monique or Maggy or Harriet.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:41am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘Ralph’…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tqY3VHubd_g
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:47am
    - RalphT
      
      But we aren’t all like that…
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:51am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Hi Trumpanzee,
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYm2YytiIRM
      
      LOL
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:51am
      - Inandout
        
        2013 video and zero comments; says it all really stephie.
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:55am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy ,just add an R to the miracle bubbas name and we get the count of any sensible posts from you goatboy.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:48am
    - stephieboy
      
      Neve it is!
      
      Move on, Bo Bo!
      
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      June 26, 2018 8:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwQxYwOAU9Q
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9dlG-iq3F8
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGoCF2v6Aeg
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:01am
  - pentwig
    
    you sick thing stoopidboy
    tsk,tsk
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:39am
  - skyblue
    
    Foals do get quite different names to humans.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:07am
  - skyblue
    
    The old man thinks he is a stud and the mother is making a mare of NZs economy so it is right the foal has a differing name. Neve by Gayford out of Adern.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:12am
- Harkman
  
  I had to laugh about the naming of ‘Neve.’ The most famous of which is actress Neve Campbell who shot to fame on 1990s show ‘Party of Five’ which had the hit theme song, “(Everybody wants to be) Closer to free.” The irony is we are less free under this government. ? Unless Cindy interpreted it as all goods should be “free.”
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:15am
  - G152
    
    Neve is also the name of the man who goes after online love scammers.
    The program is called called Cat Fish
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:35am
hullkiwi

Then there is Peters’ view on what Parker was up to on behalf of his mates. It was all Stephen Joyce’s fault, & they were trying to fix it.

Note to Peters and ztev, it was the Clark government that gave rise to Auckland SuperCity, not the Key govt. Joyce & Hide merely enacted the recommendation of the Clark/Peter’s govt commission on the SuperCity.

It was also good hearing him try to dismiss his criticisms of Parker’s mate and the whole deal.

It seems Peters is prone to being a history revisionist and always is wanting to make the facts fit his narrative. Even if he is telling pokies.
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June 26, 2018 8:22am
- KevOB
  
  I think Peter’s mind is wandering a bit these days. That is not the same for everyone like that. Each has their own quirks. Peters should retire but he won’t. As common with his condition, in my opinion, he fails to recognise his state.
  
  We need a mechanism to remove a failed MP.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:41am
  - holysheet
    
    It’s called an election. The problem is there are far too many dumb arse voters who still vote for the prick. We have a few commenters on here who voted for the drunk to teach National a lesson. What a bloody joke they are.
    You know who you are, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:55am
    - lifesgood
      
      They probably read WO and are WO sycophants. This mess serves them jolly well right but unfortunately the rest of us have to suffer.
      
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      June 26, 2018 1:43pm
    - KevOB
      
      The need is between elections. Three years could be far too long.
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:37pm
  - VicParking
    
    If you are Stupid you do stupid things because you are too stupid to realise they are stupid. Winny take Note..
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:15am
    - KevOB
      
      It’s all relative. Drop the blood sugar on a diabetic and see how well they perform like that.
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:39pm
holysheet

How do you titillate an ocelot?
You oscillate it’s tit a lot.
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June 26, 2018 8:24am
- Pateke
  
  I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:08am
oldpark

The morass known as the Coalition of Confusion and Chaos squelches on.
Latest claim to fame from the ex bible basher David Clark is to cancel National Health standards to be replaced by who knows what. That follows on from the effeminate Hipkins decision to dump National Standards in Education System regarding how pupils are developing their learning skills. Seems Hipkins who it is known in the Education Department would not know regarding Education if the town clock was up him. Even less about Charter Schools.
Next it is is NZS unmarried mother Ardern installed by the master of Chaos Peters as PM coming out and dumping Charter Schools as well as Gas and oil exploration in Taranaki.All agreed to by the chameleon called Peters.

To think the architect of it all known as “The Great Pretender” Peters has now engineered himself into the top job as NZs PM. more like a beggar on horseback or after 40 years of political chaos an abomination.What a bloody embarrassment and an indictment of our political mickey mouse so called democracy.
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June 26, 2018 8:24am
- Philview
  
  “Unmarried mother”. Helen Clark said at the weekend that New Zealand feel proud to have an unmarried mother as PM because we are so “progressive”. Personally, I couldn’t give a toss about her marital status but dislike the Liberal notion that heterosexual marriage is some kind of oppressive evil whereas of course gay marriage is wonderful.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:23am
  - MCos
    
    “Liberal notion that heterosexual marriage is some kind of oppressive evil”
    Never heard that one before.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:11am
Catons

Looks like a charge has been laid. I assume Jacinda will get protection over what did she know and when did she know it. The presence of alcohol at an even attended by young people should also be looked into. Who supplied the alcohol.
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June 26, 2018 8:24am
- cmm
  
  Selfies!
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:30am
- RF
  
  Jesus…. she will be sitting at home practicing her concerned face.
  
  I hear she took lesions from Cunners.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:27am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I hear she took lesions from Cunners.
    
    Gosh, I hope she has an ointment for them.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:31am
    - RF
      
      Bloody iPad spell check. I will sack my proof reader
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:51am
  - Inandout
    
    And her bobbing head, although with a cellphone up to her ear while feeding Neve her bobbing may lessen.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:06am
  - Prince
    
    Absolutely. Now, tilt head to side. Turn that smile upside down. Narrow eyes. Lower brows.
    And…”We are ABSolutely committed to complete transparency and fully engaging with blah blah blah’
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:12pm
holysheet

Can you imagine any group writing a song with these words today?

Take a pinch of White man
Wrap it up in Black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty-bit of Red Indian boy
Curly latin kinkies
Mixed with yellow chinkees

Maybe this was Twitfords favorite song when he was still in nappies.
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June 26, 2018 8:25am
- kowtow
  
  We live in a new Puritan era.
  
  These fascists mistook that 1984 was a warning and are using it as a guidebook.
  
  ‘A division of the American Library Association has voted to remove the name of the Little House on the Prairie’s author from an award because of the way she referred to Native Americans and black people.’
  
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/25/little-house-prairie-authors-name-removed-literary-award-racial/
  
  It starts with the best of intentions , positive action etc and then moves to this . What next?
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  2018 version:
  Take a pinch of White trash
  Wrap it up in Ethnic Skin
  Reduce all the privilege
  And add a Huge about of the First Nation
  With Braided Muslim Transgenders
  Mixed with the superior zhōng guó people
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:21am
- Inandout
  
  That song, including chinkies, is still being played. Note the other dark races aren’t lampooned.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:13am
secondcumming

Got up early this morning to take the kids into school….hardly worth the effort. The usual pack of entitled lycra-clad dorks blocking traffic all along Tamaki Drive

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgcO23dXkAAIC0R.jpg
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June 26, 2018 8:29am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Like this ?
  
  http://cyclingnz.com/results/905_Caltex%20Tour%20Of%20Hawkes%20Bay.jpg
  
  Why not get your kids to walk!
  
  Honk, honk, honk! Oi, oi oi…
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:50am
  - secondcumming
    
    You should get yourself one of these new racing saddles, stephie boy 🙂
    
    ……Oi, oi, oi, Honk, honk, honk!
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Df32v8_WkAAqE3y.jpg
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:19am
- VicParking
  
  Install bull bars which extend outside the side of your car. Install then quite high so they slip under your car and you dont have to stop to wipe them off.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:24am
rangitoto

Donald puts the boot in:

“The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!”
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June 26, 2018 8:31am
- dime
  
  i fucking love that man
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:48am
  - MCos
    
    Steady on!
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:18am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  I agree with Donald. Good to see that Kate Hawkesby sees the problem as well.
  
  “To speak endlessly about acceptance and love for all, to preach about living without judgment or condemnation, to rally against targeting people because of their race religion or beliefs, to profess to support every human, and protect each other’s mental health – how does all of that get thrown out of the window when it affects your own politics?”
  
  That’s one of the reasons for the rise of s0-called ‘conservative’ attitudes. The claim to ‘tolerance’ of the Left/liberal is farcical. They want free licence to become abusers and abuse at will.
  
  It isn’t new. All human beings (or more to the point, those of weak character), probably all species, like to attack, judge, condemn anything/anyone ‘different’ to them. Lacking any sense of being comfortable in their own skin, they must seek constant and overt verification from the wider society, unable to tolerate even one dissenter. One could say it’s another expression of the desperate human need for predictable environments – but the ‘monsters’ only want that for their own while destroying others.
  
  It’s why they take people to Court for refusing to bake their cakes or post their political messages – and why they throw them out of restaurants. They have achieved social dominance, and while decrying those who had it in the past, they replicate the same behaviour in their own service. Round and round the circle we go, ‘progressing’ nowhere, unless backwards.
  
  Utter hypocrisy and malevolence borne of weak and immoral characters. Self-righteous hubris drawn from naricissistic obsession and the total absence of any degree of self-awareness or social responsibility.
  
  It moved from ‘There’s no such thing as truth or right’ to ‘There is a truth and right – it’s what we say it is’. Kim Jong Un thinks that as well, as has every monster who has ever existed. That level of control and abuse must be torn down.
  
  But there is a point that needs to be made about social movements generally. In the past, it was simple. If you have a cause, go all out for the extreme in the hope of getting some lesser progress – and don’t pull any punches. There was a stable ‘majority’ whose views were being modified.
  
  That widely accepted strategy has now become actively dangerous. It’s a whole other ballgame when there is no ‘stable’ majority and/or the one that exists is disempowered and ignored. Then it’s polarising societies into unstable, warring factions who are unwilling to reconcile and/or incapable of reconciling their views. Increasing bigotry and violence, on all levels, is the only possible outcome as all become consumed with ‘might is right’.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:50am
Thought Criminal

The police are so over the top about licencing laws because a handful of drunks make their lives a nightmare.

Oh, except when Labour break those laws.
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June 26, 2018 8:32am
kowtow

So called human rights laws need serious reforming.

‘Many in Germany were outraged that although Sami A. was considered a security threat and had had his application for asylum rejected, he has continued living in Germany. Revelations in the Bild newspaper that he has collected more almost €1,200 ($1,400) a month in welfare have compounded their anger.

Why was his deportation previously blocked? In a recent ruling in April, a court ruled that deportation was illegal because Sami A. faced “the considerable likelihood” of “torture and inhumane or degrading treatment” if he returned to Tunisia.’

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-deport-alleged-bin-laden-bodyguard/a-44392010
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June 26, 2018 8:39am
- Inandout
  
  The (mostly from the Western areas) Germans have this horrible fear of being called ‘racist’, and will bend over backwards to accommodate progressives. Those from the old East Germany, like Merkel, harbour some of the ‘state knows best’ ideals. Germans by and large like being herded, but like any peoples, there is a limit to their tolerance.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:48am
godruelf

The government is looking after the old and befuddled by not requiring them to apply for the home heating benefit I can see why. Winston talking to Hosking this morning couldn’t remember whether he had applied or not. Then said it was great he could turn on his heater without worrying about the power bill. FFS. The interview was a shocker.
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June 26, 2018 8:39am
- holysheet
  
  Can you imagine the shambles and clustrfuck that would occur in govt right now if we had a major natural disaster like a repeat of the Christchurch earth quakes?
  It doesn’t bear thinking about. Just hope it doesn’t happen
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:49am
  - dime
    
    it would be bad. the response would cost lives and then they would slap rich people (income over 60k) with a 5% levy to pay for the recovery. the levy would never go away.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:50am
- igm
  
  Sounded like he had a late night at Green Parrot.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:51am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  So we have a drunken old fool with the Prime Minister’s hat on who doesn’t even know that pensioners don’t have to apply for the winter energy payment.
  I wonder if he knows that this payment is barely half of the pension increase that the Nats were going to give us.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:53am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Captain, did you also hear on Hosking say that he could not remember if he applied for it and someone may have just put it in front of he for him to sign?
    
    The only person who would have put something like that in front of him to sign would be his partner. However, he was implying that it may have been a staff member.
    
    If an application was required a staff member should have had nothing to do with his personal matters.
    
    We have an acting PM who admits to signing things and he does not have a clue what they are about.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:51am
  - godruelf
    
    His other comment that with the payment he could now turn the heater on…. Hosking’s cry of ‘Whaat’ was priceless.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:37am
  - Piniwi
    
    No CM it was only from the tax cuts that the pension net pay would increase. As usual the annual adjustment based on the CPI was applied from April 1st as it is each year. The WEP was just another gimmick from the COL as they hurriedly tried to save face by eliminating the tax cuts since they had blown it all.
    
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    June 26, 2018 3:49pm
- ex-golfer
  
  Like him or loath him one thing John Key always had was the policy details at his fingertips.
  The fact the the Acting PM doesn’t even know that you don’t need to apply for the Winter Energy Payment, a key policy flagship for his government, just shows how out of depth this crowd are.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:54am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Want to bet that the prick won’t turn up to face Hosking next week?
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:58am
    - RF
      
      The stupid old goat made a complete pigs ear of this mornings chat with Mike Hosking.
      
      Even my poor long suffering wife was screaming at the radio.
      
      The scarey thing is that this idiot is running the country whilst the commie chick is sitting in front of her mirror asking who is the fairest of them all.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:34am
- Rich Prick
  
  My OAP’s are off on their third cruise of the year this Saturday. That winter heating benefit would have covered the first two days of their bar tab. Labour are such mean bastards.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:56am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Peters wasa going OK until Hosking asked about the Winter Energy Payment. Then he started to stumble, obfuscate, and generally try to fudge the issue.
  
  It’s pretty obvious now that he has not signed an opt-out form, and will accept OUR money with unrestrained glee!
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:01am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    KS, it appears that he cannot recall what form he may or may not have signed.
    
    It appears that he is really losing the plot. He can still come out with oneliners. I am not saying this as a put down as some are like referring to his height but it appears his basic memory is failing.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:47am
- KevOB
  
  You have just described a typical instance of someone with dementia.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:03am
- VicParking
  
  And don’t try and find out or he will sue you
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:26am
- chuk
  
  godruelf: Peters also told Hosking that he may have signed the (non-existent) application form without realising what it was; it may have been one of many papers placed on his his desk that he was told to sign.
  
  I’m surprised the acting PM would be happy telling the nation that he is used to signing forms he hasn’t read. What an idiot.
  
  Perhaps that was how he “mistakenly” over-claimed his superannuation for seven years.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:35am
  - backster
    
    Might explain also how he signed off to shut down Taranaki.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:50am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Indeed; Peters has form in having difficulty with MSD forms…
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:24am
artemisia

Free EVs for all over-65s. All in the interest of saving the planet … and families … and communities. And all in all a better tomorrow. Lovely post on Point of Order.

Bring it on.

https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2018/06/25/how-to-step-up-a-gear-in-the-drive-to-shape-a-more-loving-and-caring-society/
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June 26, 2018 8:41am
- igm
  
  I would prefer to walk than drive e poofy ev. Will continue with my Evo, V8s, and ute till I can no longer buy gas.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:52am
  - Cobolt24
    
    People who truly care about the environment would cycle or at least take public transport when possible, the vast majority of people who own EVs live in the city so it’s all just virtue signalling.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:35am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Funny that; I’ve just taken my car in for a service, and they’ve lent me a Kia Niro hybrid for the day. And I have to say, I’m impressed.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:46am
Hugh Pavletich

… TIME TO FIRE THE CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL AND APPOINT COMMISSIONERS … ENOUGH IS ENOUGH …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/06/links-26-june-2018/#comment-3130635

Floating asset sales for Christchurch is too little, too late … Mike Yardley OPINION | The Press / Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/104975392/floating-asset-sales-for-christchurch-is-too-little-too-late

… extract …

… So now we face a 17 per cent rates rise over the next three years. The council would have you believe this year’s average annual rates hike is 5.5 per cent, yet their own documents tabulate the figure as 5.72 per cent, when you factor in the disingenuous way they account for the cathedral levy. The sad truth remains that the Dalziel-led council has betrayed its word on rates restraint.

Last September, the council declared its LTP focus was on “keeping rate rises below 5 per cent – even if it means reducing services.” Earlier this year, I referred to how my rates bill has exploded by 83 per cent since 2007. It’s now on track to soon spiral to 135 per cent. … read more via hyperlink above …

… excerpt of my Christchurch NewstalkZB comments yesterday

Harsh criticism of the Christchurch City Council’s priorities – 25-Jun-2018 – NZ Politics news

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=271483

… what I wrote mid 2012 following the Peoples Protest February …

Christchurch: The Way Forward | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1206/S00251/christchurch-the-way-forward.htm

… ENOUGH IS ENOUGH …
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June 26, 2018 8:53am
- holysheet
  
  That’s better Hugh.
  I actually read it this am.
  Keep them short and you might get some followers.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:01am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fucking Lefties wasting other people’s money again aye Hugh. Bastards
  
  I noticed the other day you going and posting in previous days threads. That’s so fucking sad even I won’t mock you. Seek help.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:02am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Note lengthy post here … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/06/general_debate_25_june_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2240485
    
    CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL … THE BUREAUCRATICALLY BLOATED URBAN WRECKING MACHINE …
    
    … Fleeing political losers …
    
    Christchurch City Council debt to grow 75 per cent to $2.1 billion | Stuff.co.nz
    
    … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:19am
- Harkman
  
  Got to give you the thumbs up for that Hugh ?Labour is out of control in Chch.
  
  BTW the NZX50 is top heavy and ready to collapse.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:21am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz
    
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94470/acting-prime-minister-says-getting-average-house-price-5x-average-income-government%E2%80%99s
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:30am
Poppa

Just when I thought Cindy is the worst PM I have seen along comes Winston Peters.

What a joke of a PM he is! Talking complete rubbish in any interview & seems to have no grip on what is happening at all.

What a mess this great country is getting into & don’t get me started on the health system review
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June 26, 2018 8:58am
EAD_TWO

Great tweet by Blair Cotterell:

https://mobile.twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/1010368580871864321

“I’ve been in the trade for 13 years, been a carpenter for 9 years, worked for builders big and small and for myself. I’ve never met a Leftist in the trade or building industry. Not one. To me there is a clear correlation between a lack of physical labour and Leftist ideals.”

SO TRUE

Just look at the lefties who infest this blog…..
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June 26, 2018 9:01am
- holysheet
  
  If you had seen the facebook photo of stooopidboy/Ralph (before it was deleated) you would come to the same conclusion.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:04am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    and Mikenwimp
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:06am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, could you photo bucket your callous ridden hands from long years of physical labour and toil?
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    Holycrap, you too!
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:11am
    - holysheet
      
      The only time you would see my hand would be just before it hit your slimy face.
      I know for my safety I should wear sterile gloves, but they would only dull the affect on your feeble brain.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:19am
      - stephieboy
        
        holy crap , your favourite nail polish?
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:26am
      - holysheet
        
        Blood red.
        Whats yours, yellow?
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:00am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Tone it down holysheet, threats of violence aren’t ok even if you don’t mean them.
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:26am
      - GoVege
        
        Just stick to the verbal violence and character assassination, holy. 🙂 🙂
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:59am
Longknives

Did anyone see Winston on TV1 talking about the Justice Reforms this morning?
He was rambling away about putting Prisoners to work (‘Hard Labour/Chain Gang’) kind of thing..

How the hell is that going to go down with his Crim-Hugging Labour/Green cohorts??
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June 26, 2018 9:13am
- Poppa
  
  Nope didn’t see it but that may be today’s version tomorrow he will have a different position & deny he said it
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:23am
- holysheet
  
  In his booze addled brain, the drunken dwarf is confusing the truth with fantasy.
  The tree planting counter will soon be showing a 70 million deficit.
  Somewhere Wristy and he must have had a conversation about how they can get this number down by using prisoners to do the planting.
  The poor old man is fully deluded.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:55am
Tauhei Notts

Yesterday the Inland Revenue Department blog was quoted as there being as many as 7000 stallion prospects per year being eligible for accelerated depreciation as wanted by Winston Peters.
The total thoroughbred foal crop in any one year is about 4000. Half of them are female.
Our tax system is based upon the vast majority of New Zealanders having a basic sense of honesty. If they learn what abject liars the Inland Revenue Department hierarchy are, then that basic sense of honesty amongst taxpayers will wither quickly.
It is encumbent upon the Minister of Revenue to get some degree of honesty amongst his senior staff. To see the system crumble is a sight that does not bear thinking about.
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June 26, 2018 9:20am
- VicParking
  
  Let’s take your 4000. Take fours year thats 16,000, take half 8,000 less failures, like you, and you get 7000
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:31am
  - Ross12
    
    TN refers to stallion prospects. In your calculation it is likely to be less than 70 in the four year period. Even on a very good year there would be maybe 15 new stallions (usually less than 10) and many of those would come from outside NZ.
    
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    June 26, 2018 9:49am
- Poppa
  
  The very large fish hook here is….who decides which horses qualify? And is it a one off for a yearling?
  
  As with all of the rubbish Peters comes up with it will not be clear to anyone how it will be applied
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:40am
  - Ross12
    
    I’m not sure about the detail of this depreciation change Poppa , but as presented you are right about who makes the decision.
    Maybe TN, who I believe is an accountant, can elaborate for us all.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:18am
- david
  
  Is it constrained to only apply to thoroughbreds?
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:15am
KevOB

Just done my annual review of Rossi’s e-cat technology.
It looks more like its a goer. If so this will revolutionise energy supply. There are 1 Mw units in use now for industry and testing. A proposed domestic unit of 10 Kw output is about the size of a desktop laser printer. Swap the unit out for a fuel recharge after 6 months. No radiation but proven nuclear processes occurring in the tiny solid fuel/catalyst employed.

Work is continuing among scientists on how it works. One has an explanation based on subatomic particles.

There is interesting video on https://ecat.com/

This could be a history making invention.
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June 26, 2018 9:33am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I was heavily involved in reviewing this a few years back (I’m an engineer with training in calorimetry). While I was optimistic for a year or two it became apparent after multiple fiascos that when you dig down there has not been a single credible demonstration that wasn’t (deliberately in most cases) gamed to make it look like it was making energy when it wasn’t. Rossi is 100% shyster, always has been, and changes his demos and refuses to allow independent assessment to prevent being found out.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:24am
  - KevOB
    
    Time will tell. There’s demo of a unit in Stockholm.
    There is serious commercial interest now with units in operation. Independent reviews are appearing and the science is now being explained.
    
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    June 26, 2018 5:43pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Rossi could be the wealthiest man in the world within weeks if he just spent a few days to arrange a properly instrumented demo that worked, yet for 8 years he has refused, because he is a scammer! It is easy to measure energy inputs outputs accurately and verifiably without room for uncertainty. He hooked a big fish – Industrial Heat, had a contract for 90million dollars, they tested his unit (on his ridiculous terms, poorly instrumented, for the crazy 12month period he insisted upon) and found it was a clear hoax, using bullshit calorimetry again. They sued him, and got their money back, and having seen under the hood they wanted nothing to do with this supposed lucrative revolutionary tech – it doesn’t work.
      
      His latest effort is the same old bullshit reheated for new suckers and with new fake demos, bullshit calorimetry and pseudoscientific jargon and very unimpressive (to engineers/technologists) hardware.
      
      Read Jed Rothwells (involved in cold fusion research for 30 years) thoughts on Rossi. Cold Fusion/LENR may be real, but Rossi is all fraud, has been for 30-40 years, and has even been to jail for it.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:21pm
- cha
  
  There’s one born every minute.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:26am
- rangitoto
  
  Uncle Al’s advice to youngsters:
  
  “Never bet against Emmy Noether, you will lose your shirt”
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:31am
oldpark

Heard the latest breaking news. IRD staff going on strike for two hours. Fancy that. That is double the time they usually have for morning and afternoon tea breaks.
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June 26, 2018 9:36am
- oldgolfer
  
  And, god forbid, they have to enter some data manually.
  It’s not on. It’s really not.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:57am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Beehive bacon process workers going on strike too. Stock up on Heller’s bacon boys.
    
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    June 26, 2018 12:53pm
    - GoVege
      
      There’s always long pork if you run out… 🙂
      
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      June 26, 2018 3:50pm
EAD_TWO

They’re really stepping up the hyperbole & rhetoric now against ordinary people that want nothing more than to live in a cohesive and law abiding nation:

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-hundreds-of-jews-protest-in-ny-against-trump-s-immigration-policy-1.6199085

Kushner also expressed concern about where his country is headed. “Who isn’t terrified? The man running the United States is a certifiable psychopath who panders only to the most recidivist, bigoted, anti-Semitic, homophobic, misogynist, racist elements in American society. We should all be terrified, and we should also act,” he said.

What about the 63,000?
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June 26, 2018 9:45am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Perhaps this is why these people want what little remains of America’s border torn down?
  
  Weisman places this Jewish moment in a larger historical frame that is simplistic but useful. “The Jew flourishes when borders come down,” he writes, “when boundaries blur, when walls are destroyed, not erected.” The dynamic between the particular and the universal, what Weisman terms the tribalists and the internationalists, has tugged at Jews for centuries.
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/awakening-to-the-depth-of-american-anti-semitism/2018/03/23/048b18ec-18aa-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:48am
  - sam green
    
    EAD – I didn’t know you were Nigerian.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:22am
    - GoVege
      
      See Sam, I always uptick you!
      (Well, nearly always.) 🙂
      
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      June 26, 2018 11:41am
- EAD_TWO
  
  I never understand why my posts that bring readers attention to the goings on and machinations of organised Jewry get constantly downticked despite being impeccably referenced?
  
  Why don’t people want to see what is hidden in plain sight – are they too scared of boo words?
  
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  June 26, 2018 7:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    impeccably referenced?
    
    References v religious nuts and brain washed bigots. What do you expect?
    
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    June 26, 2018 7:27pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Welcome back RealityCzech
      
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      June 26, 2018 7:34pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD TWO, “impeccably referenced?” ??
    
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    June 26, 2018 8:29pm
oldgolfer

CMM – reported in error.
I was going to try to correct stephieboy’s appalling grammar but hit the wrong button.
Apologies.
On reflection, stephieboy’s grammar is beyond help.
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June 26, 2018 9:56am
- MCos
  
  The word ‘but’ is always preceeded by a comma.
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:40am
  - oldgolfer
    
    No it’s not, and preceded does not have the extra e.
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:58am
    - MCos
      
      That comma should be a semicolon.
      
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      June 26, 2018 11:11am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    preceeded (sic)
    
    A comma is not always required before but.
    e.g.
    His style was accurate but clumsy.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:10am
    - GoVege
      
      Grammar is so important, Maggie.
      But not casting aspersions on an entire race?
      (Example of usage of word “bro”: “Hurry up, bro”, said by one adolescent male to another whilst taking turns to rape their own sister.)
      
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      June 26, 2018 11:23am
      - GoVege
        
        I ONLY mentioned it again because I was reading on the net last night that there are still a lot of people very upset about this.
        Maori are NOT all rapists.
        Just as Kiwi bloggers are not all racist….oh hang on. 🙂
        
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        June 26, 2018 2:09pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Suckered by Muphry’s Law.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:12am
  - Monique Watson
    
    No it’s not.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:52am
MCos

A photo of two female state of origin players kissing after a recent game caused ructions amongst the more conservative league fans in Australia.
Apparently the two women have been in a relationship for a few years.
I was amused to read that in true rugby league style they found true love at a beer drinking competition when competing against each other.

I also read that police in Australia attended a heightened number of domestic abuse incidents after the first men’s State of Origin game.
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June 26, 2018 10:37am
Fletch

The latest target of liberal censors – Laura Ingalls Wilder, the author of the Little House on the Prairie books. Apparently her works contain content that is discriminatory to minorities and whatnot, so an award that was named after her has had its name changed.

The American Library Association has removed Laura Ingalls Wilder’s name from a major award based on how her iconic Little House on the Prairie novels portray minorities.
“This decision was made in consideration of the fact that Wilder’s legacy, as represented by her body of work, includes expressions of stereotypical attitudes inconsistent with ALSC’s core values of inclusiveness, integrity and respect, and responsiveness,” the Association for Library Service to Children said in a statement.

The vote to remove her name was unanimous. A standing ovation followed.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/06/25/nolte-new-book-burners-disappear-laura-ingalls-wilder-from-literary-award/

As always, the left are concerned with altering things that don’t really matter for fear of offending imaginary ‘victims’ while simultaneously supporting what really is perverse, especially with the stuff they brainwash kids with in school about sexuality and gender.
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June 26, 2018 10:59am
- GoVege
  
  Got any examples of why she was banned, Fletch?
  
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  June 26, 2018 11:19am
  - Longknives
    
    She used language like ‘Blackies’ etc which would have been commonplace in the era those books were set in.
    
    Mark Twain and Shakespeare will be next to go..
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:31am
    - GoVege
      
      Oh for goodness sake!
      That’s not particularly offensive.
      People of colour are forever changing how they want to be described.
      Not that long ago they preferred “blacks”.
      
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      June 26, 2018 11:36am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Also any references to native American people (or First Nation in modern PC or Red Indians to us older types) were in the negative. Which was very common to the Prairie settlers.
    
    Good old history revisionists!
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:18pm
GoVege

Anyone see Piers Morgan interviewing a woman jailed for shooting her hubby last night.
Her birth mother comes on (hideous old bag) and tells Morgan …and the world…she reckons her daughter did it.
Gave her up at birth and gives her up again in her moment of greatest need.
Poor daughter refused to believe her mother could say that about her, when Piers told her.
If anyone doubts the disloyalty of many women to each other, here’s your proof!
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June 26, 2018 11:07am
Fletch

White House Press Conference with Sarah Huckabee-Sanders –

“You mean are we walking around making up laws? No, because we are not the Obama Administration. We’re actually trying to enforce the laws that are on the books.”

https://youtu.be/IiRQ31Pjtr8?t=35m

Nailed it.
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June 26, 2018 11:18am
- VicParking
  
  Just watched it, She is Brilliant
  
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  June 26, 2018 11:58am
Hugh Pavletich

Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94470/acting-prime-minister-says-getting-average-house-price-5x-average-income-government%E2%80%99s
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June 26, 2018 11:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “but it won’t happen during its first term”
  
  As there won’t be a second term when will it happen then?
  
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  June 26, 2018 12:10pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Captain Mainwaring:
    
    Hopefully Hugh answers your question before his comment disappears like the other ones!
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:35pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I don’t think Hugh will disappear today as at last he’s getting the idea that he needs to stop being such a pain in the arse.
      
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      June 26, 2018 1:56pm
Captain Mainwaring

This loser got what was coming to him.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/105009122/new-zealand-man-shot-trying-to-enter-teens-home-in-us

Now wait for our bleeding heart Government to cough up for his hospital bill.
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June 26, 2018 11:25am
- godruelf
  
  Captain At least we can probably safely assume he won’t be clogging up the New Zealand legal system anytime soon.
  
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  June 26, 2018 11:42am
- GoVege
  
  Now THAT’S what you call appropriate use of a firearm!
  (But if a mother had shot an armed intruder smashing his way into her home, here in NZ, she would probably be the one up on charges.)
  
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  June 26, 2018 12:25pm
GoVege

Wonder what’s happening with the mum and three kids living in fear of their abuser being released from jail this week?
Will Womens Refuge send them to another safe house?
Or will they be cast out on the street to await their fate?
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June 26, 2018 11:27am
Longknives

I challenge Kiwibloggers to read this-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104988086/child-killer-anthony-lawrence-roma-recalled-to-prison-for-breaching-parole-conditions

Then think about how desperately hard Ardern and Little are trying to have characters like Roma released into our Community..
“What’s a bit of ‘Collateral Damage’ eh Andy?
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June 26, 2018 11:36am
- RalphT
  
  Yep. For some people life should be that; this one seems to a prime candidate for never seeing the light of day.
  
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  June 26, 2018 12:01pm
  - GoVege
    
    He’s seriously mentally ill.
    He should be confined to a lunatic asylum for the rest of his natural.
    Have they got any left?
    
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    June 26, 2018 2:11pm
VicParking

Just read an article on the failing newspaper, Sorry, about dancing with the stars. Seems I was not the only one to get the “Voting is now temporarily closed and will reopen shortly” message when I voted for him. Other half was watching and like other nights yelled out when it was time to vote. I was watching Poker on ESPN in my office. Seems the fix was in on DAVID 3333.
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June 26, 2018 11:40am
Manolo

The markets take a hit:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/us-stock-futures-trade-tumult-continues-to-rattle-investors.html

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 328.09 points to close at 24,252.80, with Boeing and Intel among the biggest decliners in the index.
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June 26, 2018 12:36pm
waikatogirl

New easy and cheap vehicle scam:
Out of Africa this has spread to the other side of the world and likely to eventually come to NZ.
The driver comes back to their car and attempts to drive away but is suddenly aware of a loud crunching noise. Your first instinct is to get out of the car to investigate what has happened. On finding the problem the driver will now be on the passenger side of the car and has most probably left the car unlocked and even left the engine running, leaving a perfect opportunity for a car thief to quickly jump into the drivers seat and take off with your expensive vehicle and valuables.
So what was the supposed problem? A plastic drink bottle pushed between the front passenger tyre and the wheel arch. Simple, easy and very effective for car thieves everywhere. Watch out and tell everyone you know! ? ?
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June 26, 2018 12:49pm
- sam green
  
  Bloody Nigerians – bet EAD_TWO thought it up.
  
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  June 26, 2018 7:18pm
  - cha
    
    The gullible stupidity is strong.
    
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/criminals-using-plastic-bottles-carjack/
    
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/category/inboxer-rebellion/
    
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    June 26, 2018 7:25pm
sooty

I think hughey was passing thru this morning. But he has left.
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June 26, 2018 12:54pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Sooty:
  
  Hugh took a dump on yesterday’s GD thread this morning – a nested thread of 5 lengthy comments with copied-and-pasted text and hyperlinks (4 replying to himself) between 6.33 am and 11.37 am.
  
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  June 26, 2018 1:44pm
  - sooty
    
    Does he like talking to him self. On yesterdays post it will be just an echo chamber. But them so is his mind.
    
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    June 26, 2018 5:25pm
Monique Watson

Not too bad here in the Bay Area if you know your Tech Companies. And lesson for the kids today? They’re flipping around in a rubber boat off the Beach. I’ve got nine kids under the watch because apparently I adopted another two on top of my friends within in hour and I’m out there yelling: “Stay Starboard”. So no-one’s heads meet on the way back into shore.
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June 26, 2018 12:56pm
- RalphT
  
  You want starboard to stay in Thailand? Probably very sensible from the point of view of the rest of us.
  
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  June 26, 2018 1:19pm
  - starboard
    
    Low blow. .and I’m more than happy to lounge around here in 30 deg. NZ gives me gas.
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:42pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Starboard:
      
      Is there any truth in the rumour that Mike and Sam Green have booked a flight to see you? Or is their visit mean to be a bit hush-hush? *wink*
      
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      June 26, 2018 1:51pm
      - sam green
        
        Is starboard Nigerian too?
        
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        June 26, 2018 2:36pm
      - starboard
        
        Well, theirs Mums wont let them come over.
        I pleaded with MM’s mum to let the man out but she told me ” Michael will stay a virgin until the day I die” So, who am I to argue with the old trout.
        Green sams Mum, I could not hear what she was babbling as she had a mouthful of schlong.
        
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        June 26, 2018 5:43pm
      - sam green
        
        Really Starboard – she’s dead so it must be yours.
        
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        June 26, 2018 5:54pm
Don the Kiwi

This govt. is really pissing me off.
They have repeatedly promised us that we are in the middle of a global warming event – but its bloody freezing, and I want them to make good on their promise.
Can you sue the govt. for its lack of performance and failure to fulfill promises?
Thought not – we’ll just hope the next govt. can produce the goods.
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June 26, 2018 1:20pm
- Poppa
  
  Nasty day in the mighty Waikato.
  
  I feel for the farmers at the moment, the paddocks are turning into mud pools.
  
  Hardly a day goes by without rain in some form. Maybe we will have a dry spring to balance things up a bit
  
  I hope that gas supply doesn’t run out, I am needing plenty of it trying to keep warm
  
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  June 26, 2018 1:31pm
  - Komata
    
    Poppa
    
    I’m also a Waikato resident, but notice that the Dafs’ and Paperwhites are already flowering, this despite the fact that we haven’t yet reached July; the coldest month.
    
    Do you think they know something we don’t?
    
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    June 26, 2018 1:58pm
    - Poppa
      
      The old saying was that winter starts after the shortest day. You are right July is generally the coldest so it will be interesting to see what happens.
      
      I am over winter this year (could be my age)
      
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      June 26, 2018 2:42pm
      - KiWombat
        
        Sun down here on the coast today – first time in ages !
        Probably means snow tomorrow, but we’ll take a day of sun whenever it is on offer !
        
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        June 26, 2018 4:09pm
    - KevOB
      
      Daffodils are out in Hagley Park Christchurch. Roses are still in bloom, even the goldfish are feeding.
      
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      June 26, 2018 6:04pm
BananaLlama

Lauren Southern released her Farmlands documentary on youtube.
She interviews White South African farmers who describe the brutality they live under and how Nelson Mandelas Rainbow Nation intends to expropriate land from those farmers Robert Mugabe style.
Give it a like and share it is very well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bDc7FfItk
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June 26, 2018 1:36pm
- BananaLlama
  
  inb4 Stephieboy and Ztev
  
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  June 26, 2018 1:37pm
- Komata
  
  BL
  
  And the MSM completely, utterly and totally ignore it!!!
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:00pm
- stephieboy
  
  BRITTANY PETTIBONE AND LAUREN SOUTHERN ARE NOT “CONSERVATIVE” ACTIVISTS OR “JOURNALISTS”
  
  Despite rebranding attempts they are far-right activists with a history of racism
  
  https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2018/03/14/brittany-pettibone-lauren-southern-not-conservative-activists-journalists/
  
  Enough said! Move on,
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:09pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    lmao he’s triggered
    
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    June 26, 2018 2:13pm
Poppa

A serious question.

So how does Twyford think that prefab houses will save money & deliver quicker?

One still needs the materials and labour to position the material all cut to length to go on jigs for nailing. Add to this the cost of machinery & rent for a large warehouse.

A conventional house now has pre nailed framing & trusses so what am I missing?
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June 26, 2018 1:44pm
- KevOB
  
  A factory of robots. If you have a plan a computer can direct, cut and assemble. The rest is vision and scale. I know an engineer who created an automated house drafting program back in 1976. He described then his vision of a fully automated factory producing houses from the new drawings. The robots are now with us.
  
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  June 26, 2018 6:01pm
Anne Glen Eden

Woohoo! Isn’t this a great story – “A New Zealand man who travelled to the US home of a 14-year-old girl he had communicated with online was shot by the girl’s mother, a sheriff said yesterday.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12077916

In NZ, the mother and daughters would have been trying to fend off a persistent attacker with a knife, probably one or all would have died. If he’d ever got tried, he’d have been let off or let out to repeat the performance. And they would live in fear for decades.

And persistent he was, in the declared face of resistance and a gun.

Good on that mother! This is the other side of the ‘gun story’; the one that allows people to defend themselves and their loved ones from psychopaths. Pity her aim wasn’t a bit better and lethal.

Hope the 14-year-old has learned to be a bit more discriminating about who she communicates with online and how much information they have access to as well. Just as much a lesson for NZ children.
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June 26, 2018 1:50pm
- Inandout
  
  What a dirty rotten bastard that kiwi guy was, probably a committed Lefitist. The mother could have blown his crown jewels away and left him transgenderish.
  
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  June 26, 2018 1:57pm
- GoVege
  
  Bloody hell!
  Was reading from the bottom up and so didn’t realize it was you Anne and upticked.
  Still, I must concede this is a far superior post to your usual efforts. 🙂
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:03pm
- sam green
  
  Anne of Green Gables she ain’t.
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Latest from Interest Co NZ …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/06/links-26-june-2018/#comment-3131147

ASB data shows the actual number of homes sold to foreign buyers in the year to March 2018 is likely between 11% & 21% nationally, not the 3% reported by Stats NZ | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/94482/asb-data-shows-actual-number-homes-sold-foreign-buyers-year-march-2018-likely-upwards-11

At Barfoot & Thompson’s larger auctions the sales rates ranged from 22% to 57% | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94467/barfoot-thompsons-larger-auctions-sales-rates-ranged-22-57

Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94470/acting-prime-minister-says-getting-average-house-price-5x-average-income-government%E2%80%99s
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June 26, 2018 2:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Hugh at 11.25 am (on this thread):
  
  Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz
  
  Hugh at 11.37am (on yesterday’s GD thread – one day later):
  
  Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz
  
  Hugh at 2.23 pm (on this thread):
  
  Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz
  
  Let’s play spot the difference. Oh hold on…
  
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  June 26, 2018 2:33pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Nostra … Considering the 3 items above within the last post (and numerous other factors too) suggests to me the days of housing inflation are well and truly over.
    
    It sure is a speculators nightmare now.
    
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    June 26, 2018 2:45pm
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      Keep them that length Hughy or go away.
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:29pm
Fletch

The Left today – watch as Steven Crowder confronts a woman who tweeted the location of his van and advocated that people firebomb it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of1Od0n_y34

Watch how when confronted, instead of trying to have a discussion or make an argument, they start chanting. Totally pathetic.
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June 26, 2018 2:43pm
Manolo

Exporting perverts:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/sheriff-new-zealand-man-shot-trying-to-enter-teens-home/ar-AAzahbX

A New Zealand man who traveled to the U.S. home of a 14-year-old girl he had communicated with online was shot by the girl’s mother, a sheriff said Monday.

Troy George Skinner, 25, was shot Friday after he allegedly smashed a glass door and tried to enter the home in Goochland, Virginia, said sheriff James Agnew.
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June 26, 2018 2:54pm
- Jack5
  
  Aren’t the American mother and her daughter lucky Mum was allowed to keep a gun in her home?
  
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  June 26, 2018 3:29pm
Jack5

Interesting TV interview, especially for military buffs, on Russian RT, with Eeben Barlow, founder of the private military company Executive Outcomes, now part of Strategic Resource Corporation.

Eeben Barlow, who was previously a lieutenant-colonel in the South African Army, tells why mercenaries are more successful than the UN in African conflicts. One example he gives is Sierre Leone, where he says the UN used 18,000 troops to replace 200 men from a private military company.

The interviewer is RT’s Sophie Shevardnadze, grand-daughter of Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze. Sophie Shevardnadze is now something of a celebrity socialite.

Barlow tries to draw a line between the work of African military companies, such as his was, and non-African military companies being employed in the Middle East.

https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/430759-eeben-barlow-executive-outcomes/
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June 26, 2018 3:23pm
- Jack5
  
  That was a quick down-tick. Clearly no time to watch the 28 minute TV interview. So a blind down-tick.
  
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  June 26, 2018 3:38pm
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    jack5 , Eeben Barlow you are a firm believer in outsourcing war, eh?
    
    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-dark-truth-about-blackwater/
    
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    June 26, 2018 3:50pm
    - Jack5
      
      Stephie X, Barlow’s mates might be able to find jobs for the Stephiestani Trolls Ltd team as cook’s helpers and minefield finders.
      
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      June 26, 2018 3:57pm
  - cha
    
    Well, you’re citing Putin’s Pravda.
    
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    June 26, 2018 4:50pm
    - Jack5
      
      Pravda? That was the official newspaper of the Soviet Communist party. Now it’s a minor publication owned by Greeks. And Eeben Barlow’s no communist. He’d be well to the Right of NZ Labour Party supporters.
      
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      June 26, 2018 4:55pm
      - cha
        
        Yeah, you’re right.
        
        RT is the mouthpiece of Putin’s gangster state.
        
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        June 26, 2018 5:06pm
      - Jack5
        
        RT has interesting pieces occasionally, like this one.
        
        I find interesting stuff occasionally, too, in the Guardian and the Washington Post, biased as they are to the Left. Good stuff in the BBC is a bit rarer. The diminishing English-language section of Radio NZ’s Red Radio is going that way, too.
        
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        June 26, 2018 5:30pm
Jack5

Some dimwitted strategy decisions being made by our media chiefs.

It seems Newshub is well dug into the Left front of politics, as the attack on Simon Bridges by Tova O’Brien (linked to below) shows.

The Left side of the media is heavily overpacked. The market gap is on the Right. With their dwindling paid subscriptions and vanishing advertising, why are our media chiefs so pigheadly spinning their wheels in the Left’s Bog of Despond?

Tova O’Brien’s ridiculous rubbish about Bridges:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/06/tova-o-brien-simon-bridges-has-some-apologising-to-do.html
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June 26, 2018 3:55pm
KevinH

Tova is making that fundamental mistake political journalists need to avoid and that is showing her political inclination, her dislike for National.
Reading through her piece it’s not difficult to see she has got emotional on the story. Don’t be surprised if she pops up in the PM’s press corps.
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June 26, 2018 4:27pm
- nasska
  
  When everything else fails a cry of “Won’t somebody please think of the children” usually stops rational thought in its tracks.
  
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  June 26, 2018 4:37pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From the linked article:
  
  When asked if it’s politically correct to have a female baby and if it should be considered gender-fluid, instead Bridges replied, “only under a Labour Government”.
  
  This is called a joke. But, no, Tova O’Brien thinks it’s “prejudice” and “loutish, transphobic rubbish”.
  
  Simon Bridges will argue it was all just light-hearted banter, but there are children and people all over the country struggling with their identity because of the stigma and shame perpetuated by ignorance.
  
  If these people are that fragile, then they really shouldn’t listen to the breakfast show on Hauraki FM, or any radio breakfast show for that matter, in case they hear something that tips them over the edge!
  
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  June 26, 2018 4:45pm
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    The hug puppies will get trampled underfoot in the rush for the safe rooms. 🙂
    
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    June 26, 2018 4:54pm
    - itstricky
      
      I get trampled every day in GD by the rush to moan, whine and be completely offended by something and everything some random heard on Radio X/Y/Z.
      
      And, without a shadow of a doubt, that would be amplified moaning if said Hauraki breakfast hosts were to say anything slightly controversial to this side of the fence.
      
      I find it humorous that not many have twigged that they were simultaneously taking the piss out of, and baiting, Bridges.
      
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      June 26, 2018 6:15pm
      - itstricky
        
        One downtick already? Perhaps I should post Well’s Like Mike segments again and see how many downticks and whines I get? Wot? You don’t think they’re funny? Why ever not?
        
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        June 26, 2018 6:19pm
      - nasska
        
        You miss the big picture itstricky. The massive bias towards the Left shown by the MSM is obvious to commentators here.
        
        You can’t expect publicly funded broadcasters to act as pimps for Labour without a backlash.
        
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        June 26, 2018 6:21pm
      - itstricky
        
        Who’s talking about publicly funded broadcasters?
        
        And whining is whining, whichever way you swing it.
        
        Exhibit (A) – mention of the aforementioned radio host’s Mike Hosking piss takes – automatic 5 downticks. No sense of humour, huh?
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:08pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”Who’s talking about publicly funded broadcasters?”….
        
        Me. Red Radio & Channel Commo set the standard for suckholing the Labour Party. The People’s Pinko Press (aka The Herald) provides the same service in hard copy.
        
        All other media are merely trying to emulate their low standards.
        
        …..”automatic 5 downticks. No sense of humour”….
        
        Leave me out of it. I seldom downtick & that wasn’t of a standard worth breaking protocol.
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:20pm
      - stephieboy
        
        nasska , gotta be much, much better than your puerile standards!
        
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        June 26, 2018 8:23pm
      - itstricky
        
        Me.
        
        But I’m not. Not all the whining and outrage in GD is about “Red Radio”. There’s plenty said about commercial operators, of which the whining fragile posters could just switch off. Just like Nostradamus suggests.
        
        Leave me out of it. I seldom downtick
        
        I wasn’t specifically referring to you. I was referring to those poor, fragile, souls with trigger happy fingers who can’t take a joke from the very same person. I mean, we were laughing about how Tova and her precious communist SJW readers can’t take a joke weren’t we?
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:28pm
      - realityczech
        
        Tricky, you filthy little commie, red radio are so bias it is parody. They can’t even do a piece on keeping hens, or pottery, without spewing venom on Trump, or some other contrived virtue signalling.
        
        At 5o million + they don’t come cheap though!
        
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        June 26, 2018 9:31pm
ex-golfer

Pertinent question from Judith Collins today:

Hon Judith Collins: If the funding will come from overseas, the flat packs will come from overseas, and even the workers now look like they’re going to be coming from overseas, what part of KiwiBuild is Kiwi?
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June 26, 2018 5:30pm
- Disillusioned_Voter
  
  The land and the debt.
  
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  June 26, 2018 6:44pm
Viking2

It gets worse.

Cabinet minister David Parker said he acted with Cabinet’s authority in seeking an exemption for the Te Arai property development at Mangawhai involving two iwi from the impacts of the Overseas Investment Amendment Bill.

Parker told Parliament he had presented a Cabinet paper dated March 22 recommending that a “transitional period” be provided for the development, and the transitional exemption was approved by Cabinet on April 3.

Parker said a submission to the select committee about the impact of the proposed law on the development involved two iwi was the first time that he or his office had become aware of it.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12078211

So the Cabinet knew what Parker was up to and seemingly all agreed.
Wonder which one wised Mallard up so it could be squashed?
And good on Trev for doing it.

BUT, they will try again. Be alert Trev.
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June 26, 2018 7:22pm
- rangitoto
  
  Lock them up.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:45pm
- RF
  
  We know that Ardern has no control over her ministers so they run wild and do what they like.
  
  God help NZ.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:47pm
RF

Peters has lost the plot. He now wants houses available @ $200,000.00 for those on a basic wage.

This is coming from a man who is on a fat parliamentary salary, super and now the heating allowance when it comes in.

This is where the expression… let them eat cake comes from.
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June 26, 2018 8:41pm
- rangitoto
  
  He never had the plot to begin with.
  
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  June 26, 2018 8:44pm
DigNap15

Thank Goodness that the judges were finally able to end David Seymours journey on this show.
I was amazed at the number of people that were still voting for him.
He only did two half pie reasonable dances (Ballroom)
I wanted to see more of Naz and the housewives girl.
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June 26, 2018 8:45pm
pejhay

Ron Mark is awesome – he has announced “his proposal to purchase up to four Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol planes”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104965447/defence-minister-ron-mark-one-step-closer-to-replacing-old-military-planes

However, the internet is more awesome, here’s an article from the same source from April 2017…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92045512/new-zealand-considers-purchasing-new-boeing-military-aircraft-from-us

So the country considered it a whole year before Ron Mark made ‘his’ proposal…

Give the man a medal !
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June 26, 2018 9:46pm
- realityczech
  
  Why can’t they just use drones for perving at fishing boats?
  
  They do need a few strike aircraft for protecting shipping from communist pirates like Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd.
  
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  June 26, 2018 9:55pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Realityczech:
    
    communist pirates like Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd
    
    Are they still receiving taxpayer funding for their operations? Russel (one L) Norman never managed to build a prototype of his magical money-printing machine!
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:03pm
    - realityczech
      
      Nosty, They are running the country now so they can have what ever they want.
      
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      June 26, 2018 10:10pm
      - Jack5
        
        ‼️ The cold blast brought you down from the mountains, RZ?
        
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        June 26, 2018 10:47pm
  - rangitoto
    
    The Aussies are on to it:
    
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-26/air-force-spy-drones-to-monitor-south-china-sea-will-cost-$7b/9909592
    
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    June 27, 2018 12:00am
- Nostradamus
  
  The article quotes Ron Mark:
  
  “So my closing comment, not being able to pre-judge what the Cabinet committee or Cabinet might decide, because that is for me to put the case down, I would simply say, put your cellphones in flight mode, put your tray up, buckle in, hold on, it’s coming.”
  
  Only a person who uses the Air Force as a personal taxi service (helicopter joy rides to and from his Wairarapa home) would say that!
  
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  June 26, 2018 10:00pm
  - pejhay
    
    Although I realise they’ve been on the cards for sometime, and I might be wrong, but I also don’t recall a line item in the CoL budget for two billion dollars for 4 planes…?
    
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    June 26, 2018 10:17pm
Hugh Pavletich

… NEW ZEALAND: ACTING PRIME MINISTER WINSTON PETERS DISCUSSES HOUSING AFFORDABILITY …

Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94470/acting-prime-minister-says-getting-average-house-price-5x-average-income-government%E2%80%99s

Winston Peters wants affordable homes for those on living wage … Henry Cooke … Stuff / Fairfax NZ

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105020637/Winston-Peters-wants-affordable-homes-for-those-on-living-wage?cid=app-iPad

(originally titled) Dont touch the HAM: Its off ! … Rob Stock … Stuff / Fairfax NZ
… take particular note – readers ‘median multiple poll …
Have Peters, Twyford and Robertson seen it ?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/104817263/Don-t-touch-the-HAM-its-off

… What are Winston Peters and Shane Jones view on this ?

Do they care ?

Auckland MÄori Housing Summit to focus on development opportunities | Voxy.co.nz

http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/5/309160

… extract …

… Hon Phil Twyford acknowledged the seriousness of the housing crisis for Auckland MÄori with the home ownership rate among MÄori now tracking below 30%. The Minister highlighted the impact this has on intergenerational wealth and resources, reducing opportunities to accumulate wealth to pass on to the next generation. This creates critical long-term impacts that must be addressed. … read more via hyperlink above …

… essential background information … check …

ARDERN / TWYFORD SECTION
(recently updated)
PERFORMANCE URBABN PLANNING
http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … DON’T FORGET WELLINGTONS BIG EVENT … TONIGHT ! …
  
  Enabling City Growth: Lessons from the USA (pdf) … Infrastructure New Zealand
  
  https://infrastructure.org.nz/resources/Documents/Reports/Infrastructure%20NZ%20USA%20Report.pdf
  
  Extract … Page 12 …
  
  The Infrastructure NZ Delegation to the USA April 2018.
  
  New Zealand’s urban growth challenge is severe, but not unique. Many cities across the developed world, especially the English speaking world, are experiencing similar problems. Australia, Canada and UK cities are all battling high housing unaffordability and worsening congestion.
  
  Another such country is the United States of America. Cities like San Francisco and New York are almost as famous for extreme house prices as Los Angeles is for extreme congestion. A feature of the US, however, is that urban growth challenges are not uniform. Some cities seem to able to grow affordably, while others do not. What are they doing differently and what do they tell us about the way New Zealand cities are managing growth?
  
  The US governance, tax and legal system, not to mention and the country’s sheer scale, make direct comparison to New Zealand difficult. To learn from US experience, but overcome substantial contextual differences, Infrastructure New Zealand led a delegation to four US cities in three different states to examine and compare urban growth approaches. We wanted to compare across different US cities, rather than with New Zealand cities. We wanted to understand the actions cities which meet growth take which differ from those cities that do not grow well take.
  
  The delegation comprised 42 delegates from across the public and private sector and took place between April 2 and April 13.
  
  Where the delegation went.
  
  The delegation visited four growing US cities: Portland, Denver, Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston – defined in this report by their metropolitan or regional areas, rather than by their municipal boundaries.… read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Extract … Page 47 … Fig 17 …
  
  … above provided by …
  
  Home – Center for Opportunity Urbanism
  
  https://opportunityurbanism.org/
  
  … Wellington Presentation Event … WED 27 JUNE 2018
  
  Infrastructure New Zealand – WELLINGTON – WED 27 JUNE 2018 EVENT: Lessons from the USA – Planning, Funding and Enabling City Growth
  
  https://infrastructure.org.nz/event-2932846
  
  Infrastructure New Zealand – Home
  
  https://infrastructure.org.nz/
  
  … Media Release …
  
  Incentives and Flexibility Needed to Fix Infrastructure – Infrastructure New Zealand | Scoop News
  
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1806/S00331/incentives-and-flexibility-needed-to-fix-infrastructure.htm
  
  Incentives and Flexibility Needed to Fix Infrastructure and Urban Development in New Zealand
  
  “New Zealand’s urban growth system is broken and must be revised to incentivise cities to grow and city leaders must be given the flexibility and tools they need to succeed,” says Stephen Selwood, CEO of Infrastructure New Zealand.
  
  “We took 42 public and private sector infrastructure leaders to Portland, Denver, Dallas and Houston – four big, fast-growing cities facing the same challenges as New Zealand cities, but with different economic, social and environmental outcomes.
  
  “The US cities may not be able to match New Zealand centres for liveability, but they do know how to grow. Homes are being built, roads and public transport are being delivered and homelessness is down by a third in the last decade. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  … Recent Media Report … The Inaugural New Zealand IPSOS Survey …
  
  UPDATE – New (IPSOS) survey reveals housing, poverty and healthcare most concern New Zealanders – NZ Herald
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12047092
  
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