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EAD_TWO

Whilst New Zealand has been focusing on the comings and goings of baby Neve Te Aroha (poor kid), I’ve been following the developments of the so called “scandal” from the US Border since Edward Felsenthal’s Time Magazine published perhaps the dirtiest piece of outright bullshit and propaganda in recent years.

In response, Trump delivered a truly outstanding speech to the American People (time stamped below) that turned the tables by saying that yes, whist he is carrying out Clintons and Obamas policies, people should remember that 63,000 Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens since 2001.

63,000!

As far as I’m aware, this had pretty much zero MSM coverage so the public remain in the dark as they are fed (fake) stories of little children whilst military age men continue to pour across Americans Southern border.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6xdH5btsTM#t=14m28s

Sensing a mood change in the public as attitudes continued to harden towards immigration,the MSM has doubled down and are trying to paint due process being shown to people illegally sneaking across borders to a……drumroll please…..Holocaust.

James (Jake) Tapper of CNN in the below widely published piece (via Reuters) described Trumps policies as being “the start of dehumanisation that leads to the Holocaust”:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/23/british-rabbi-trump-immigration-policy-like-genocide-theresa-may-visit

Paul Krugman, has described Trump (enforcing Obama’s policy) policy as the beginning of “genocide”:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/opinion/blood-libel-trump-immigrants.html

Michael Cohen also played the Holocaust card:

https://www.jta.org/2018/06/20/news-opinion/politics/michael-cohen-cites-wrenching-trump-child-separation-policy-holocaust-survivor-parent-quitting-rnc

and on and on and on it goes.

No mention from Felsenthal, Tapper, Krugman or Cohen of the 63,000 murdered Americans.

Emotions, hyperbole, chutzpah and a photo of a crying toddler trump facts and balanced reporting when it comes to the wicked MSM and their agenda
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June 25, 2018 8:02am
- fernglas
  
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  The reason no responsible media have mentioned the 63,000 figure is because it is unverifiable.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:06am
  - cmm
    
    But the “kiddy in a cage” was verifiable?
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:08am
    - fernglas
      
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      Am I right that the figure is not verifiable or not?
      
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      June 25, 2018 8:12am
      - cmm
        
        Nope, you’re the one saying they are not reporting this because it is unverifiable.
        
        I am calling your bullshit. They are not reporting it because it does not fit their agenda. They don’t care about being accurate.
        
        The kiddy in a cage story was easily verifiable (as nonsense), but they chose not to.
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:22am
      - Duxton
        
        Bullshit, fernglas.
        
        If the figure was incorrect, the media would have said so.
        
        That said, the figure is almost certainly wrong. what Trump clearly meant is that 63,000 are known to have been killed by illegal aliens. This leaves open the question of unsolved murders, which I understand would be around 10%.
        
        The actual number of Americans killed by illegals will definitely be higher than 63,000. Assuming the murders were pro rated, it would be closer to 70,000.
        
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        June 25, 2018 9:45am
      - ztev
        
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        Media have called it bullshit.
        
        It was based on 12 people everyday murdered by illegal aliens.
        based on FBI figures for homicides that would make 1/4 of all homicides EVERY DAY
        ( plus 13 per day killed in car accidents by illegal aliens)
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:21am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, verified as being under Obama.
      
      But all the same, I think it unwise to quote a figure of that nature unless it is tolerably well supported. I don’t think we could complain if there is reasonable evidence or inferred evidence that the figure is around that number, but if it is unsubstantiated and just “plucked out of thin air” then it diminishes the issue and the speaker.
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:15am
  - kowtow
    
    The MSM give lots of activist coverage to the anti gun students in the US , by contrast they give practically no coverage to the Angel Moms and Dads.
    
    I wonder why?
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:13am
    - G152
      
      Wonder no longer.
      It’s because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
      If it wasn’t for Trumps Twitter account none of this would get out
      
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      June 25, 2018 8:31am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Fernglas,
    
    it is now 2018. The few MSM outlets that have reported Trumps speech (such as Martin Barons’s Washington Post), are trying to “debunk” it by saying it came from who have been reporting the fake news are citing a 2006 study.
    
    Hello MSM – what about the last 12 years?
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/22/the-original-source-for-trumps-claim-of-63000-immigrant-murders-bad-data-from-steve-king-in-2005/?utm_term=.b37be7c0947d
    
    The sinister irony about this brouhaha is that it isn’t immigrants that are being dehumanised, it’s everyone that is against immigration is literally being put into the same category as a Nazi (historys greatest criminals even more so than the Bolsheviks)
    
    The result of this (and it’s by design), is that it provides legitimacy to hate anti immigration supporters who will of course be white (as they’re the recipient countries of the unending 3rd world immigration)
    
    So really this psyop, to legitimise endless immigration, is about fostering complete racism and hate towards white people, while pretending it’s about combating racism.
    
    As we see with the EU Marrakesh Political Declaration, immigration from Africa is endless and as the rhetoric against white people via carefully crafted sophistry, it will be white people suffering the genocide at some indeterminate point.
    
    Those of us under forty should be seriously alarmed about the future.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:15am
    - fernglas
      
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      Still don’t see an answer to my question about whether the figure is verifiable. Or do facts matter less than prejudices on this blog?
      
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      June 25, 2018 8:22am
      - cmm
        
        So verifying matters only in this one story. In all other stories the MSM should just lie and mislead the public?
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:24am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        The MSM are not without resources and can determine the correct figure themselves. If that correct figure would make Trump look bad, I’d expect they would have already reported it.
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:29am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        cmm feels free to believe whatever ‘facts’ he agrees with. He’s just a post-truth snowflake – all about the feelz.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:13am
    - KevinH
      
      Crime stats actually show a decline in offending:
      https://www-citylab-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.citylab.com/amp/article/516471/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.citylab.com%2Fequity%2F2017%2F02%2Frefugee-resettlement-v-crime%2F516471%2F
      
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      June 25, 2018 8:31am
      - Duxton
        
        kevh: those figures are irrelevant. Trump is talking about illegal aliens, not refugees who have been processed via the appropriate authorities.
        
        Nice try to deflect the argument, though.
        
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        June 25, 2018 9:55am
      - ztev
        
        “Crime” is a big definition.
        
        In NZ low level crime is decreasing- partly because of police actions such as pre charge warning- and other demographic changes.
        The higher level violent crime and including homicide here definitely isnt decreasing
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:33am
  - kevn
    
    @ferng… We are talking MSM here, verifying anything, isn’t part of any message they choose to portray.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:29am
- MT_Tinman
  
  I notice you blame Clinton and Obama but not G W Bush who enacted the legislation America’s border forces were enforcing.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:29am
- ztev
  
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  Thats an average of 12 per day – since 9/11.
  
  Too silly for words, even if you included those killed by illegal aliens in car accidents ( more on that later)
  
  Just a comparison
  ‘Consider that there were an estimated 17,250 murders in the United States in 2016, the most recent year for which full FBI data is available. Mendoza’s per-day number would indicate that there were 4,380 murders committed by immigrants in the country illegally — a full quarter of those killed that year.’
  
  It gets worse, as Congressman King who told Trump the numbers originally said this:
  ‘The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals.”
  
  So its an extra 13 per day killed in car accidents caused by ‘illegal migrants’
  
  You can see how this is going …hehehehe
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/22/the-original-source-for-trumps-claim-of-63000-immigrant-murders-bad-data-from-steve-king-in-2005/
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:44am
  - igm
    
    Any imbecile that takes Washington Post as a news source defies sanity. However, seeing it is Trev, who could doubt its authenticity!
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:01am
  - Duxton
    
    ztev, it is entirely believable that one quarter of the murders are committed by illegals.
    
    The drink-driving stuff is absolutely irrelevant. A cynic might say that you are trying to deflect the argument, but I would never think that. I just think you are absolutely delusional.
    
    Any word on the Labour rapist yet? Why not run off and find a name for us: there’s a good chap.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:06am
    - igm
      
      Duxton: Maybe you have hit a tender spot!
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:13am
    - ztev
      
      Thats was the original claim by Rep King , where Trump got his numbers from.
      12 per day homicide
      13 per day killed in road accidents
      
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      June 25, 2018 4:59pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Hi Duxton. There have been hints about pies and gropers. I hope my deductions are correct. Do you have substantive evidence? I would hate this to go down the way of the Clarke ( with an E ) Rumours…..
      
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      June 25, 2018 7:23pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Whats silly about that. Johannesburg alone has about 8 murders per day. Welcome to the big real world, not the fairyland.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:55pm
    - ztev
      
      FBI numbers have all US homicides as around 47 -48 per day. ( averaged over whole year)
      So it clearly is around 1/4.
      Thats why it is and looks ludicrous
      
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      June 25, 2018 5:01pm
      - Duxton
        
        No it doesn’t. I think it is entirely possible that 25% of murders are committed by illegals. Sorry if that offends your deluded, left wing sensitivities.
        
        Found out who the Labour rapist is yet? Megan Woods knows. Ask her.
        
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        June 25, 2018 5:19pm
Inandout

Mark has been given a decent platform to speak his mind on the Duncan show. If this becomes the norm they may have a rise in their ratings.
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June 25, 2018 8:10am
waikatogirl

Twitford and the COL (taxpayer) plan to assist setting up large industrial prefabricated housing plant/s in NZ to build “thousands of houses a year over multiple years”. The scale of prefab houses required will be enormous if Phil is to achieve his Kiwibuild dream.
“Automation will play a large part so there will be a smaller workforce required.”
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June 25, 2018 8:17am
- cmm
  
  “Automation will play a large part so there will be a smaller workforce required.”
  
  They will also be borrowing the equipment from Monopoly factory so all the houses will be green.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:26am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Actually there’s no reason why an automated production line can’t be built to do this. We do actually have a NZ company that builds mass manufacturing production lines. There’s no reason why a 100 houses per day factory can’t be built. There’s no reason why a 10,000 home per day factory couldn’t be built as well as having 20 different designs from the same lines. Of course you design the factory to suit demand and that may be for 30 a day for 10,000 a year.
    I however don’t put much faith in politicians to achieve the obviously possible.
    Carry on with your monopoly, it’s stimulating.
    
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    June 26, 2018 11:31pm
- MickMac
  
  Good For him.
  
  I hope it is a big success..
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:30am
  - backster
    
    Like what previous state owned enterprise.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:56am
    - jcuk
      
      The original house building programme of the 1930’s Labour Govt. which for its time produced excellent housing stock for many.
      It is about time somebody did this and the National Party were useless on this point.
      Better late than never … either that or some way to free up the expensive empty houses held for capital gains [ by investors ]for ferals to trash???
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:40am
      - tf78
        
        Land was cheap, builders very able, good quality products (often kauri), no insulation, no gib board, just your basic well built home, no stupid council compliance costs, no GST and generally all Borough councils. The compliance and land costs are where the affordability comes from.
        
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        June 25, 2018 11:47am
      - sooty
        
        Bugger all clip board nincompoops in those days. Everyone did a fair days work.
        
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        June 25, 2018 12:01pm
- G152
  
  Now all they have to do is all the paperwork and the infrastructure needed before a single ‘prefab’ goes up
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:33am
  - cmm
    
    But it looks so good on the CGI…
    
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    June 25, 2018 7:11pm
- brett68
  
  Houses are pretty much prefabricated anyway.
  
  Trusses, framing, kitchens, windows, doors etc they’re all made offsite.
  
  The problem is and always will be lack of people on site, when you’re waiting for sub trades or only have a couple of chippies on site permanently a house build is always going to take 2-3 months.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:38am
  - jcuk
    
    Sub trades should be doing their work in the factory not on the field.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:45am
- Lance
  
  This will be very expensive to set up, lots of up front capital. Who is coming to party on this or making guarantees?
  And what if in the meantime the NZ economy turns to shit and Aus looks attractive again. Who foots the bill for empty houses and an idle factory?
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:39am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Ask Phil, he’s got all the answers! ? ? ?
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:04am
    - hullkiwi
      
      No he hasn’t that is why he is clutching at straws. No talk of land, resource consents, infrastructure development and integration with existing communities.
      
      Twitford is a man with a head full of wishful thinking, with no sign of concrete plans.
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:37am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Plans ???…NO
        Concrete…….
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:09am
      - waikatogirl
        
        hullkiwi, I do hope the x3 ? emoji gave away that I was being sarcastic about Phil Twitford having all the answers? Past experience proves he couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery. Twitford also claimed to wants to cut the current cost of building in half. Another pie-in-the-sky dream of Mr Twitfords. ? ?
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:33am
      - jcuk
        
        I agree with WG below but surely in the whole of NZ there is somebody with brains to work this … having built two houses myself if I was not in my mid 80’s would voluntier.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:49am
      - hullkiwi
        
        WG yes I could see your sarcasm. A Planner with Auckland City put it to me this way. Twitford missed his vocation and his era, in that he was born 100 years after late & should have been a church parson dispensing hope & optimism to village parishioners, because he has no chance of achieving a second coming with housing & transport.
        
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        June 25, 2018 11:54am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Lol, very good hullkiwi. Description of Twitford to a T. He would have been very popular with the ladies of the parish.
        Twitford is one of those who is not very bright but believes his own bullsh*t is brilliant. ?
        
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        June 25, 2018 1:21pm
    - alloytoo
      
      Phil heard about Fletchers wanting to build a factory to manufacture panels on Friday.
      
      Monday it’s policy.
      
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      June 25, 2018 1:47pm
- Ross12
  
  I saw a bit on TV last week about the use of 3-D printing technology to build houses. I thought it was experimental, even though the display houses looked OK, so I did a little google search. Seems it is further down the track than presented on the TV piece.
  
  https://www.3dnatives.com/en/3d-printed-house-companies-120220184/
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:01am
- alloytoo
  
  “Automation will play a large part so there will be a smaller workforce required.”
  
  I wonder how the unions feel about that?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:20am
- ztev
  
  So Fletchers are doing the same thing, and is that bad.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/08/fletcher-to-disrupt-the-building-industry.html
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:46am
  - sooty
    
    Labours bringing in more slaves for the kiwibuild. I hope they treat them better than the last lot. Or even the serial groper at camp.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:01am
  - jcuk
    
    Fletchers turned down the idea last time somebody suggested it so they could loose all that money working in the old and tried way.
    Didn’t National just accept thier advice and didn’t give the chance to others? Useless twats and they call this guy twatford.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:54am
  - alloytoo
    
    Where do you think Phil got the idea from?
    
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    June 25, 2018 1:48pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  I’m all for automation BUT……
  I see a tiny little flaw in Phillis’ plan, a few actually.
  1. How long will it take to build this factory?
  2. Where’s the money for the factory coming from?
  3. Once built, where are you going to put them?
  4. Land costs being the bulk cost of housing, how much is saved?
  5. How to transport these houses, once built, to site?
  6. Do we have enough transport trucks to move them to site?
  7. At 10000 per year, are we transporting 28 houses per day to site, has he seen Auckland’s traffic?
  8. How are RMA and building permits effected?
  9. Can’t prefab the plumbing and electric?
  10. Roads to these new houses?
  11. Once all the local (to the factory) houses are on site and occupied, will we have to move the factory closer to where the houses are to be located, or will the transport costs be prohibitive?
  12. Since he prefers high density housing, how is he going to prefab a block of flats or high rise?
  I’m sure, if I think a little longer, I can come up with even more things he hasn’t thought of.
  If he thought at all.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:06am
  - jcuk
    
    We need somebody with brains and authority to over rule the stupid restrictions imposed by well meaning socialists
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:55am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      “well meaning socialists”?
      No such animal, they are just socialists.
      Socialists today justify their stupidity against a “perceived” (note how often they use this word) set of rules that are first compared to something akin to
      a book that may be called
      “The large print, bumper sticker quotes of Karl Marx”
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:25am
      - Piniwi
        
        Right RWC as it the same excuse sweet cheeks clutched at on Q&A to explain why business confidence is falling. Then it got even better saying it had been the same with previous Labour governments also reducing business confidence because of “perception”. We on the other hand see it as standard Labour MO. After only 9 moths of swinging the wrecking ball the brain drain has started as some of our best and brightest do not intend to be collateral damage.
        
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        June 25, 2018 1:32pm
      - GazzaW
        
        It’s not only the ‘best and brightest’ who don’t want to be collateral damage but oil rig workers are heading to WA and North Queensland as their Taranaki contracts expire. Big pay packets already leaving the New Plymouth economy.
        
        Don’t blame me – I double ticked blue.
        
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        June 25, 2018 4:37pm
- KevOB
  
  Where is the master of industry who is going to achieve that? Secondly where are the resources? Thirdly how can the balance of payments sustain the demand that will be generated?
  
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  June 25, 2018 11:14am
- KevOB
  
  No one like prefabs–cheap houses and neighbourhoods. Are they laying the basis for another Cannon’s Creek?
  
  The good news is Labour organisational skills are close to zero so little will take a long time and result in one big mess. They won’t choose competent people either as surrogates the risk of others gaining is unacceptable.
  
  Whatever became of the MOW architects?
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:27pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Like anyone would invest in something that Twitford has suggested…..
  
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  June 25, 2018 7:24pm
secondcumming

*DON’T HOLD BACK – TELL US WHAT YOU REALLY THINK*

Well known Auckland restaurateur Leo Molloy took to social media last week (since deleted), to blast a group of pissed out of control League fans, after they did some serious damage to his restaurant during the opening *State of Origin* match……

“Criminals and sons of criminals in cane toad purple v criminals and other tattooed bogans in blue – and the low life league following scum decided to behave just as they looked. Don’t ever ask to come again you dogs. you vandals and abusers.” Leo went on to say, “If you want decent people, support Rugby. If you want mongrel scum and vandals, support League”

I’m sure there would be a lot of people out there in full agreement.

LOL!!
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June 25, 2018 8:17am
- softail 1450
  
  S C, you cant deny the truth ,pissed thugs = league.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:37am
RalphT

Had to wait until p7 in this morning’s paper before there was any news of the royal baby. Surely the MSM isn’t getting sick of the event already?

One can only hope.
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June 25, 2018 8:18am
- Tarquin North
  
  Try the Herald, but make sure you have a sick bag handy.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:25am
  - RalphT
    
    A very kind offer, but no thank you.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:03am
- sam green
  
  Yet you raised the issue?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:54am
- KevOB
  
  There may be limited coverage to the press who paid for rights.
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:29pm
- Piniwi
  
  @RalphT save the price of a paper and just visit TV1 and settle for reading the puke inducing text they are running 24/7. Suspect the COL have it all mapped out even from the virtue signalling name the poor child got stuck with. It will all be rolled out to provide a smoke screen for the blunders yet to be revealed which will in turn see those transgressions already in the public arena swept under the baby rug.
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:44pm
Justitia

Simple Soimun was on the tele last night, unhappy that all elderly are eligible for the winter fuel payment. Apparently “millionaires” will get it too. Is it now National’s policy to means test National Super? Or just another brainfart?
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June 25, 2018 8:19am
- Lance
  
  So you approve of targeted benefits for all?
  
  When did special winter benefits become Superannuation?
  
  Hell… whats a few more billion, it’s only money
  
  Here’s a radical concept, only help people that actually need help.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:43am
  - ztev
    
    Yes , lets employ thousands of staff to see if ‘people actually need help’
    
    What abouts nationals maternity leave promise- was that only for those ‘who needed help’ or was it universal ?
    Gotcha
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/national-promises-to-extend-parental-leave-to-22-weeks.html
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:49am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      The staff are already employed, no need for more.
      In fact we could lay a few off and still do a better job.
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:12am
    - jcuk
      
      The trouble is to find the thousands you have to scrape the barrel and deserving folk miss out due to the incompetence of the new recruits.
      Much better is the keep the size down and simply pay all …. it works with GST so why not Winter Power Allowance.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:02am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Wealthy retired people have their assets in trusts. Super may very well be their only declarable income while they are off on a Mediterranean cruise. Income or asset testing of retired people is just not worth the trouble. Anyway they have been grossly overtaxed during their working lives so why shouldn’t they get some back?
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:27am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Technically if the government has debt then the average citizen has taken more in services than they have payed tax for. Has a person who is rich due to inheritance but got a degree, never used it, went on the DPB, then raised a grandchild on the DPB, then went on the over 50s DPB, ever worked hard and paid far to much tax?
      I don’t think anybody should get this heating benefit as theres no guarantee that they will use the heater. The power companies need a good looking at as there’s no doubt in my mind that there overcharging.
      
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      June 26, 2018 11:52pm
- holysheet
  
  Did you miss Robbo saying there is an op out option if you didn’t want to take it?
  Who in their right mind would not take it? This govt is going to screw all the rich pricks soon, so they might as well take anything they can now.
  Will the drunken dwarf be taking the op out option?
  Nah didn’t think so.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:47am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Same as their “logic” that said “If we make student loans interest free, due to the lower costs, they will pay them back faster”
    The stupid remains and is strong in these labourites.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:14am
  - Piniwi
    
    @holysheet sweet cheeks draws a log bow but it is a head adornment and not one for any arrow. He frequently repeats the 384,000 who will be better off with the Families Package due to kick in July 1st. Actually this illustrates the velocity of money in a negative fashion. Their “perception” is that this will stimulate the economy but sadly is yet another of those backfiring interventions.
    The funding needs to be drawn down from the public purse first for it to start spinning. We have no doubt it will all be spent but is more likely to be a much less stimulus to the economy as much will go on other forms of stimulus for the spender. So for the COL they will only generate more negative results from this artificial stimulus while increasing the circulation rate.
    This is opposed to the 1,400,000 who would have already be enjoying their tax cuts since April the first as they provide true stimulus in what would have remained a strong economy. Now who is the April fool?
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:11pm
- peterwn
  
  A fine line here. There are arguments both sides. If the supplement was being paid to beneficiaries at large, this raises the issue of whether all those on Super should receive it or only those who need it (ie those with little or no other income). There would be a logistical problem if the supplement was to be paid selectively. The opposite argument is Super is being increased but with seasonal variations in payments.
  For various reasons, restricting or means testing Super is in general right off the table at present and will remain so as long as Winston is around. Both National and Labour (although not Labour in its current mood) would have a desire under the surface to redistribute Super from those who do not need it to more fruitful areas.
  Simon’s major concern is the present Government is sprinkling money like confetti to those who do not really need it instead of targeting it to those in real need and in this context sees the Super supplement in this context. Possibly he was unaware that in including the Super supplement he was by implication questioning why Super was being paid to all over 65’s (who meet residency requirements). However any prospective Prime Minister or Minister of Finance will always have the idea of limiting Super (lifting age eligibility and/or means testing) at the back of his or her mind and would move accordingly if the political climate was conducive to change. While many reasonably wealthy people would not be too upset at a Super roll-back, there would be some with a sense of entitle-itis who would squeal like stuck pigs.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:49am
  - KevOB
    
    Super will never be means tested. The social contract requires it and people are taxed for it. Even the pension is taxed.
    
    If you have ever experienced dealing with elderly taxpayers you would want to exempt them entirely from tax. Means testing is not an optimal choice. WINZ do it with some of their payments and they can very dubious too as to their determinations. WINZ pay what they say.
    
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    June 25, 2018 1:42pm
    - peterwn
      
      The reason Super and various benefits are ‘taxed’ is because it enables any income over and above to be appropriately taxed without complication. If Super was no longer to be taxed it does not mean a sudden increase of cash in hand, it means the net super amount received would stay the same. Those who think Super should not be ‘taxed’ are effectively asking for a significant hike (15% or so) in super payments.
      As for ‘social contract’, there is a level of support for reviewing super arrangements such as further raising the eligibility age. Labour has accepted in the past that but wanted to retain the existing eligibility age for those who have ‘worked hard’ in their careers (eg labourers, trades etc). That is tricky to define, but an alternative would be for those between 65 and the new set age to be paid full super if they do not have other income.
      Nothing will happen in the three years after 2020 since National and Labour will need to keep any adverse Super changes ‘off the table’.
      
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      June 25, 2018 2:06pm
  - jcuk
    
    The problem is that for people who held back and saved during their working life, contributed to Nat Prov for instance, to be deprived because they have more than just Nat Sup is completely unreasonable.
    
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    June 26, 2018 5:25pm
- srylands
  
  That’s a big leap of logic. The winter energy payment is a stupid idea. But if we must have it I would rather it went to poor people with kids. Nothing to do with retirement income policy.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:49am
  - Lance
    
    There is another problem. Low income people receiving this payment do not spend it on more electricity, rather it goes to pay other expenses.
    The houses stay cold, damp and moldy.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:00am
    - igm
      
      Pokies, booze, dope “P”, etc., will be having a boom time!
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:11am
    - KevOB
      
      The other expenses are the preceding months power bills.
      
      The winter power adjustment will be a fixture until power prices are reduced substantially.
      
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      June 25, 2018 6:52pm
    - jcuk
      
      The unreasonableness of that position is that I doubt if the writer would want to have food vouchers and the like to force them to buy essentials rather than what they would like. True I can see a point that their taxes from work are being wasted by others but do we believe in freedom of choice or not?
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:30pm
Paulus

Listening to Hoskin’s show this morning is Twyford just a liar or is he a congenital fool.
Or is it his one time Teacher training.
He could answer one simple question but waffled to try to the extent that bullshit baffles brains, or fails to do it.
Surely he can no longer be in the roles he is.
What a Clown – and I like real Clowns.
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June 25, 2018 8:19am
- softail 1450
  
  Paulus, Twitfords ability to waffle on is the one and only thing he’s mastered in his entire existence ,and hes still improving that art.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:42am
- Maxx
  
  His replies to questions are starting to be so nonsensical that he could be on the NZF team. Perhaps he’s taken media training from Peters and Jones?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:44am
- KevOB
  
  Consider people of a particular personality become teachers. My observations apply across most of those. They are querulous, self opinionated , invariably believe themselves correct and whatever they are dealing with happens to be wrong in the first place. Reason is unappealing as it conflicts with staying within their boundaries.
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:47pm
Happychappy

I see now the Coalition from he’ll are now all for state houses to be pulled down to make way for new housing, one moment they are condemning National for having all these house’s empty when we have such a large homeless situation in Auckland and the next moment they find out they can build 123,000 house’s indifferent parts of Aukland so find it all right to revert back to Nationals plan. Sooner or later the public are going to work out Phil has no plan and it is exactly the same as National was already doing except Labour want to con the public it is theirs.
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June 25, 2018 8:22am
- Maxx
  
  The public won’t work it out. It’s nice to believe that they will be critical in their thinking, but the reality is that people, by and large, think in the here and now.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:47am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Think about themselves you mean. Plenty running around out there who are totally unaware of what is happening around them. A political thought, pfft, not a chance.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:38am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Wake up sleepy – time for your meds
  
  The houses ‘being pulled down’ are being replaced by much much more houses- its called intensification.
  ‘1200 new homes to replace 300 state houses on Auckland’s North Shore’
  
  of course this was happening – slowly- under national too. From 2015 story
  564 Richardson Rd, Mount Roskill:
  Demolishing two on an L-shaped section, building 8
  – Corner Ronaki Rd/Petrie Pl, Otahuhu
  Demolishing five, building 19
  – 6 and 8 Old Wairoa Rd, Papakura
  Demolishing two, building nine
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11472888
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:58am
  - Maxx
    
    Will we see the protestors out in full force though? Unlikely
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/09/protest-at-high-court-against-removal-of-state-houses.html
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:03am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    That can’t be ztev; for nine long years, you berated us about National not building any houses. Now you admit you were lying…
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:10am
    - jcuk
      
      Not none just not enough to fix the problem for ideological reasons rather than commonsense….
      such a shame an otherwise excellent party has such a mind block.
      Shades of running a piss-up in a brewery as so often quoted here 🙂
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:11am
    - ztev
      
      Not lying old shoe.
      I said they were doing it s.l.o.w.l.y. and gave examples.
      labours sites will often be 80+ new homes
      
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      June 25, 2018 5:05pm
  - MrLovebucket
    
    It’s pronounced ‘Slum’ or ‘Ghetto’
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:14am
    - jcuk
      
      People make those places not the buildings.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:12am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Exactly, glad you agree
    1. This is what National were doing.
    2. It worked
    3. Labour WERE against it, but are now trying to change perception (LIE) that it is their plan.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:20am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Remember Niki Rauti? When National was in power, the left went full retard when they tried to shift one person to allow redevelopment.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:34am
    - jcuk
      
      The problem for sensible folk was the incompetance of those trying to shift her out unresonably.
      
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      June 26, 2018 5:36pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/06/links-25-june-2018/#comment-3129637

NEW ZEALANDS SHAME … The New York Times reports … The Straits Times reprints …

As Housing Prices Soar, New Zealand Tackles a Surge in Homelessness – The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/world/australia/new-zealand-homeless.html

AUCKLAND, New Zealand — New Zealand is known to many outsiders as a beautiful, affluent country, the place where the “Lord of the Rings” movies were made. But Joseph Takairangi and thousands of others know it better for the expensive housing that lies far out of their reach.

On a recent cool night in a misty rain, Mr. Takairangi and some of his friends were looking for somewhere to spend the night. They had decamped to a parking lot after being ejected from a stretch of takeaway food shops in Henderson, an Auckland suburb.

Soon, a speaker mounted on a wall above them crackled: “Move along, please, guys.”

New Zealand has the highest homelessness rate among the wealthy nations that make up the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Yale University study found last year, though it noted that definitions of homelessness vary by country. Social workers here say the country’s homeless — 1 percent of the population, according to a comprehensive study from a New Zealand university — increasingly include people with jobs. …

… Auckland, the country’s largest city, consistently ranks among the 10 least affordable housing markets in Demographia International’s annual global survey, which measures house prices against income. … read more via hyperlink above …

… reprint …

As housing prices soar, New Zealand tackles a surge in homelessness, Australia/NZ News & Top Stories – The Straits Times

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/as-housing-prices-soar-new-zealand-tackles-a-surge-in-homelessness
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June 25, 2018 8:24am
- Rodney Randall
  
  Sad.
  
  Did Twyford almost cry this morning when Duncan interviewed him?
  
  Duncan forcefully put it to him that he doesn’t have the Green’s support. Twyford denied this and said they and NZ first are on board.
  
  Twyford has stopped talking about removing the real impediment: the RUB. He is always careful to couple outwards growth with with intensification, usually preferring intensification first.
  
  Duncan finished by saying Labour will not have built 1000 homes by the end of the year.
  
  Is Twyford really the man to deal to these issues> Does he have the political mongrel or is he a poodle like former minister NIck Smith and former minister Heatley
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:41am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Hugh, your crap is reposted from yesterday.
  Give it up, it’s beyond tedious.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:47am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Rodney … excellent questions … thank you.
    
    Lets see what other KBers have to say first.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:52am
  - lifesgood
    
    CW, did you actually read it?!
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:01am
- softail 1450
  
  OMG ,now we are exposed to fricking re runs of Hughs shit ,FFS.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:54am
- Happychappy
  
  So Hugh you can build all these houses for the poor but what happens when they trash a place or stop paying rent. We will go back to homelessness again and all the taxpayers money that has been taken for these house will be wasted as some of these families don’t care about their kids it’s more about their needs alcohol, drugs, smokes or takeaways. The best investment in these families is to teach them parenting skills, how to grow food and children’s needs like housing and clothes comes before their luxuries.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:20am
NK

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104948683/officials-warned-against-racing-tax-breaks

How is this not corrupt.

Winston Peters takes money from an industry that he is campaigning to get tax relief for against official advice and contrary to a court ruling on the matter.

I remember Winston Peters going hard against tax write-offs for the bloodstock industry during the Winebox saga.

So he’s not only corrupt, he’s also a hypocrite.
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June 25, 2018 8:27am
- holysheet
  
  Tell us some thing about the drunken dwarf we do not know.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:35am
  - hullkiwi
    
    My thoughts entirely.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:41am
- ztev
  
  You mean the Mongolian Horse Breeders were backing the wrong horse by paying national
  
  But look at this
  New Zealand Labour Party
  $50,000
  4 October 2017 Go Bloodstock New Zealand Limited
  
  New Zealand National Party
  $50,000
  3 October 2017 Go Bloodstock New Zealand Limited
  [All after the election date ]
  Go Bloodstock is the company owned by…wait for it… Owen Glenn of 52/13 Blvd De Swisse, Monaco
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:28am
  - DJ Ward
    
    Wow does he get a rewrite of coastal shipping laws this time as well?
    Actually I feel sorry for Glenn because he means well. Think about his effort to help address Domestic Violence. He sure as hell got shafted with that fiasco. Ask the DV industry insiders to investigate the DV industry and write a report about it. Thanks for the money Glenn. Buisiness as usual girls.
    
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    June 27, 2018 12:09am
hullkiwi

More of the nanny state. It is reported that the UK govt in a bid to end childhood obesity are planning to require restaurants to include calorie counts against each menu option.

Red Radio then gave a sample of interviews of punters in Queen St & a self appointed expert saying how they thought this was a good idea.
What rubbish. The only way to cut the type of obesity they are talking about is cut the money the kids get, get them off their electronic devices and get them to go outdoors & do exercise. We don’t need the nanny state.
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June 25, 2018 8:28am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Exercise make very little difference to weight. An hour of vigorous exercise only increases your bodies daily energy use by about 5-10%.
  
  It’s all about eating less.
  
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  June 25, 2018 11:16am
  - sooty
    
    But the the self apointed expert would have no job. Socialis don’t like that. They would have to go out and actually do work and not have a shiney bum.
    
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    June 25, 2018 12:12pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Unc given what some of these kids eat daily, some exercise would be better than none.
    
    I acknowledge the world is different to when I was a kid. The only technology I knew at 5 to 18 was a TV and 2 channels. So, there was every excuse to go outside for something to do.
    
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    June 25, 2018 1:59pm
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    A small amount of exercise makes little difference, but a lifestyle change that increases energy usage every day adds up to quite a lot over time. Just making kids walk to school instead of driving them accounts for much more than the difference between a healthy weight and NZers average weight.
    
    A 20 minute walk (e.g. to school and back) burns about 70 calories for an adult. Let’s assume it is only 50 calories for a child. Multiply that by 13 years of schooling at 38 weeks per year. A total of 123,500 calories which corresponds to 35 pounds of body weight at a conversion rate of 3500 calories per pound.
    
    The numbers may be a little off (and I’m no good with the metric system) but the conclusion is clear.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:18pm
    - Colville
      
      No good with metrics? you have only had forty furking years to sharpen up 🙂
      
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      June 25, 2018 3:03pm
    - GoVege
      
      That’s very true, Nigel.
      Just as important as getting kids to walk is getting adults to also.
      Developing public transport means people get to walk between bus stops/ train stations, instead of hopping in the car.
      We might even save so much on the diabetes epidemic we could charge next to nothing for fares.
      
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      June 25, 2018 4:49pm
  - jcuk
    
    I have been maintaining my weight to 80kg* the past couple of years simply by only having two meals a day … but I am in retirement which makes that easier than if I was working with tea-breaks and cakes etc.
    * from the 90-95 which was my ‘normal weight’ in the past. I tuck into sweets etc more these days too than I used to. obviously I’m doing something wrong 🙂
    
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    June 26, 2018 5:44pm
secondcumming

Ancient skull found during archeological dig on *Kapiti Island* proof of our alien origins…….

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgPEx5LX0AEUUEi.jpg
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June 25, 2018 8:29am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Brilliant.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:36am
- softail 1450
  
  S C, i hope the local iwi have been notified, it has a stunning family resemblance to labours Paul Eagle.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:00am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yep….see what you mean!
    Funnily enuff, my young daughter came home early from school a few weeks back, and the TV was on Ch86….. the MP for Rongotai was on his feet.
    She glanced at the telly and said, “Why is that man wearing a mask?”
    
    BoL!!
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:18am
    - RF
      
      Where does Labour find these numpties.
      
      I was watching flop flop OConnor in the house last week. He was in full theatrical mode like a hell fire and brimstone preacher with arms waving, pulling faces and grabbing imaginary balls out of the air.
      
      The speaker eventually told him to tone it down.
      
      FFS
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:35am
- RalphT
  
  I don’t think it’s alien, it looks more like a Celtic face from around 400 AD.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:05am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Easter Islander.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:12am
    - Pateke
      
      Geoffrey Palmer
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:26am
    - Jack5
      
      It’s from ~~the Pleiades~~ Matariki.
      
      The ~~“Nordic/Pleiadians”~~ Matarikian iwi will be chuffed at New Zealand’s new worship of ~~Pleiades~~ Matariki.
      
      https://www.pinterest.nz/pin/423619908675310535/
      
      And for the full video of the Matarikians:
      
      https://youtu.be/XhmJ7yh4w7Y
      
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      June 25, 2018 12:09pm
  - sam green
    
    Call Martin Doutre – he’s finally got evidence.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:53am
- RW Capitalist
  
  AAAHHH explains a lot
  Jacinda’s ancestor
  Hollow
  Thin skinned
  and made of plastic (artificial)
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:23am
  - Lance
    
    And supposed to be transparent but actually is opaque
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:53am
holysheet

Two law partners hire a new cute, young secretary and a contest arises between them as to who can bed her first, even though they’re both already married. Eventually one of them scores with her and his partner is quite eager to hear how things went.
“So what did you think?” he asks.
“Ahh,” replies the first lawyer, “my wife is better.”
Some time goes by, and then the second lawyer goes to bed with the secretary. “
So,” asks the first guy, “what did you think?”
The second guy replies, “You were right.”
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June 25, 2018 8:33am
Justitia

Meanwhile DWTS buffoon David Seymour would jail doctors whose conscience prevents them being an accessory to killing under his “End of Life Choice” bill. It is beyond belief that Parliament is being asked to consider such a vile proposal.
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June 25, 2018 8:34am
- NK
  
  What do you mean?
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:37am
  - Justitia
    
    Read the bill. Penalties are in S27.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:51am
- softail 1450
  
  justitia,,, liar.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:01am
  - Justitia
    
    “The End of Life Choice Bill, which is before Parliament, allows doctors to decline a patient’s request for assisted dying, but it requires them to refer the patient on to another doctor who is willing to participate in euthanasia.
    
    A doctor who fails to do so would commit an offence punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or three months’ jail.” NZ Herald 6 days ago.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:32am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      My thoughts
      We ask/demand that a person deemed to be an adult after the age of 18, take absolute responsibility for their life and decisions.
      BUT, when they get to an “old age” or level of pain/illness (with no hope of cure), “WE” the great populous, that are NOT suffering, take the most important of decisions away from them…the decision to end their life.
      I don’t want to impose these OPINIONS, just state them.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:40am
- MrTips
  
  Yup. And another doozy is that, when all is said and done (a registar of euthanasia deaths set up, a person appointed to oversee it and a monitoring committee), the actual act of euthanasia itself will be treated in law as if nothing ever happened.
  
  Read the bill as proposed. It reads like the entrails of Seymour’s twerking gone wrong.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:32am
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Ladies and gentlemen are now entering total political irrelevance territory with the latest dancing antics of a David ” bimbo” Seymour,

“Steve Braunias: Send in the clown – don’t bother, he’s here”

Text DAVID to 3333. Any joke which has gone on way too long ought to just keep going and going; please, New Zealand, put your texts together, and vote weird, wooden, useless, hapless, political bimbo David Seymour as the winner of the 2018 season of Dancing with the Stars.

Last night’s semifinal saw the creature from the Act lagoon not even bother to dance. He stood like one of those old-timey deep-sea divers rooted to the spot in great big heavy boots. It took an age for him to lift a leg; it took an epoch for him to lift the other leg.

A thousand years passed by the time both feet re-established contact with terra firma and as far as the judges were concerned it was a waste of a great deal of time…”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12077048
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June 25, 2018 8:39am
- Harkman
  
  Just imagine Megan Woods or some of the other Labour MPs on DWTS?
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:45am
  - Poppa
    
    Imagine being 3 pies Woods partner
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:55am
    - starboard
      
      LOL.. Who watches DWTS??!
      LOSER SHARIABOY DOES!
      *Snigger*
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:54am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        True – it seems most people on this blog don’t watch, but vote for David Seyomour for the feelz.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:15am
  - VicParking
    
    They were going to ask her but the cost of reinforcing the floor was to much
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:41am
  - tf78
    
    Did you ever see the cartoon/movie “The Land of Point” – there was a segment in it with a whole lot of fat ladies dancing – Megan reminded of it.
    
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    June 25, 2018 12:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  You don’t get it do you stupidboy.
  Seymour is making shitloads of money for a worthy charity by taking the piss.
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:51am
- pentwig
  
  perhaps stupidboy, you and your goat could do the twinkle toes thing and we will judge you
  LOL
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:53am
  - holysheet
    
    Stoopidboy is sitting at home all alone and feeling horny as hell. He digs around the house for loose change and comes up with $20, and heads for the local brothel. He approaches the madam and says, “I only have $20 but I am so horny! Please, please I just want to fuck something!” The madam says, “OK, If you”re that desperate I will let you fuck a goat.” The madam instructs him to go to the first door on the right. Once there, he sees a goat tied to the corner and a large mirror on the wall. He proceeds to go behind the animal and fucks away like crazy. He finishes and leaves. A couple of days later, he feels horny again, digs around and finds $10. He goes back to the brothel and tells the madam he only has $10 but he”s really horny and wants to fuck the goat again. She tells him he fucked the goat so hard he killed it. Instead, she could let him watch two women mud wrestle for $10. The bloke agrees and she instructs him to go to the second door on the right. He walks into a dark room and sees a few lads sitting in front of a large window watching two women mud wrestle. He sits down and says to one of the other blokes, “This is great.” The other bloke says, “Yeah, but you should have been here a couple of days ago when they had some geezer fucking a goat!”
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:58am
    - VicParking
      
      Brilliant holy, Morning Stephie, now I know why you said it was strange that there was a window in the basement of Frasier House that you could not see through. ??
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:39am
  - softail 1450
    
    pentwig, septicboys girlfriend is continually escaping his attempts to keep her under control, very much like the donkey on that ITM add on TV.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:07am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is silly of you, for there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
  
  – Oscar Wilde
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:55am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Bitter, twisted journalists and commentators like Braunias are the reason that Seymour stays on the show week after week. People are quite happy to spend a couple of bucks to keep him on the show, just to see the elite, liberal Left lose its shit all over again.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:13am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Only you and you labour friends would take a dance competition, for charity, and turn it into a hate filled rant about politics.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:27am
Fletch

Oh, this is too funny. 😆 Simon Bridges is being grilled by the MSM for joking on Radio Hauraki about Jacinda’s baby being gender fluid. Ya can’t make this stuff up.

https://www.facebook.com/Breakfaston1/videos/10156354409972719/
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June 25, 2018 8:42am
- softail 1450
  
  Fletch, and the blonde bimbo says “radio ho raki”
  what a fricking joke tv1 has become,3 sickly white liberals a female,a gay weatherman ,a could be gay Jack Lame, the only person on that show that isn’t suffering trump derangement syndrome is the P I sports guy.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:18am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Not just teh gayz that have you worried now, but also the ‘could be gay’?
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:18am
- Longknives
  
  Why didn’t he mention to the airhead that a few weeks ago the Left were making jokes about aborting his children?
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:11am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Did you know that it is a sign of conspiratorial thinking to refer to wide groups of opinion as ‘the Left’, or ‘the Right’? Makes you sound like EADolf or Reid going on about ‘the Jews’ or ‘the Masons’, etc, etc…
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:19am
    - tf78
      
      Rubbish – “Right” people are always right – “Left” should just be left out.
      
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      June 25, 2018 12:17pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Do these always correct members of ‘the right ‘ share identical opinions on everything?
        
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        June 25, 2018 12:22pm
  - sam green
    
    By “left” he means one person on a comedy show doing political satire. Apparently it’s not allowed.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:56am
- KevOB
  
  Is that why it has a green hat?
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:57pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Cindy referred to the baby during her pregnancy by the colour ‘mint’ instead of referring to pink or blue. I believe that is why little Neve The Love A-G had a green hat on.?
    
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    June 25, 2018 4:54pm
    - sam green
      
      Perhaps they just had a green hat for no particular reason.
      
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      June 25, 2018 5:58pm
      - KevOB
        
        Mothers frequently colour code their babies. Green is most irregular, if not neutral.
        
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        June 25, 2018 6:56pm
      - sam green
        
        Some parents colour code their children- some don’t. Stop making assumptions about these parent’s reasons.
        
        Try this.
        
        https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:29pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I think the green hat is a coded signal to the Illuminati.
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:44pm
      - sam green
        
        Or the Green Berets.
        
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        June 25, 2018 9:21pm
Harkman

So during the ads on last night’s Dancing with the Stars they showed a clip from The Project with a tearful Jesse ‘I can’t believe anybody employs him’ Mulligan demanding the government publicly criticise Trump for child separation policies. Does he not realise that is illegal to arrest children? The guy is a stupid lefty arse, this is why I don’t watch these guys. Notice these lefties said nothing about the 18 June 2014 photos of children in cages wrapped in foil? Oh, Obama was in then. Doesn’t suit the narrative.
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June 25, 2018 8:53am
- oldgolfer
  
  He is sooo smarmy.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:13am
- Fletch
  
  As someone wrote on Twitter yesterday, “This is about rule of law. The parents visited the trauma upon their kids. The criminal does not get to dictate to society. Blaming the consequences on the enforcement of the law is total BS.”
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:16am
- sam green
  
  How is he any worse than Hosking?
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:57am
  - starboard
    
    stoooopid boy green sam.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:21pm
    - sam green
      
      Such witty repartee ……….. thud.
      
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      June 25, 2018 3:24pm
Inandout

Fletchers is reverting to house building just as Twyford announces his prefabs.

‘By the 1930s Fletchers was one of the country’s biggest construction companies. During the 1930s and 1940s it built more than 6,000 out of a total 30,000 state houses’.

Back to the future, Phil?
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June 25, 2018 9:04am
- Maxx
  
  When the Government is guaranteeing to buy them off the plans, why wouldn’t you change your focus. I’m sure conversation went like:
  Twitford: So why aren’t you building more homes.
  Fletchers: We build them when people buy them.
  T: So how do we get people to buy them?
  F: Well, you could buy them, and then we build them, and then you sell them. It’s umm, a sure way to build err, lots. I think we could build umm, 100,000 of them.
  T: 100,000? I said that this could be done. Cana you do it in 10 years. I told everyone 10 years.
  F: Sure Phil, we can build them in 10 years. But we’d need to put in umm, some sort of new manufacturing plant. We can only do this if you agree to buy the houses.
  T: SOLD!
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:55am
  - jcuk
    
    If only that were true Maxx 🙂
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:30am
  - Poppa
    
    Probably not far off the mark
    
    I think Phil better get started, he is over 6500 behind
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:45am
VicParking

A “Researcher”, no mention of qualifications except ‘Housewife’ as come out with one of the greatest apple and oranges comparisons. It’s seems that even though more people are prison on bail the murder rate has stayed the same. Thats because the ferals are in prison. Thats why the violent crime rate has dropped. Thats why the number of crimes committed by gang members has dropped. That why I feel safer in my home at night.
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June 25, 2018 9:06am
dime

let me start by saying, id rather shoot myself in the face than watch dancing with the “stars”.

but the weekly meltdown on the herald about seymour is hilarious.

how fucking butthurt is the guy who writes that shit? cant remember his name, he must be from the left.
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June 25, 2018 9:08am
- VicParking
  
  Did not even watch it but voted for David just to spite the pricks.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:31am
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha I’ve never watched it either.
    And I don’t even like Seymour.
    But I vote for him every week as I am enjoying all the Lefty tears..
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:45am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I saw this on Facebook last night:
      
      #DWTS Dancing With the Stars.
      
      This Act Prick has to go, if you agree
      Text DAVID to 3333
      
      To Vote for Chris
      Text DAVID to 3333
      
      To Vote for Shav
      Text DAVID to 3333
      
      To Vote for Jess
      Text DAVID to 3333
      
      To Vote for David
      Text DAVID to 3333
      
      To Vote for Sam
      Text her my Number
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:15am
- tf78
  
  I reckon judging by David’s sense of humour he’s dancing like that on purpose – a total p… take on his part. It’s as though his dance partner is desperately trying to teach an elephant to dance daintily and it just can’t do it.
  
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  June 25, 2018 12:25pm
  - Anne Glen Eden
    
    That’s what I call optimism. Even I have to admit, last night he reached a new low. Although if he is doing it on purpose, he has as much skill as someone tuneful determinedly singing offkey.
    
    Up to now, he’s at least looked like a twerp who is trying, beset by the Left, notwithstanding clothing that makes him look ridiculous at best.
    
    Last night, he looked like he was auditioning for the musical version of ‘Clan of the Cave Bear’ – complete with tasteless, ugly costume. I sincerely hope he doesn’t believe he’s making any sincere effort. I also feel very sorry for his dance partner.
    
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    June 25, 2018 1:08pm
MCos

In the last couple of days Saudi Arabia has allowed women to drive. However I believe they still have to have permission from their husband/father/brother to venture out of the house.
What a peculiar country.

Maybe as time moves on things will improve for women over there.
I have a copy of my mother’s 1945 UK passport. Back in those days the wife was added to the husband’s passport along with the kids. So if she couldn’t get her hands on his passport, for whatever reason, she couldn’t leave the country.
Fortunately the UK has moved on since then.
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June 25, 2018 9:09am
- Inandout
  
  The UK in general has moved on, but they are importing so many migrants from the ME that ironically Muslims are dragging the country back to post war times.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:46am
  - Longknives
    
    “Muslims are dragging the country back to post war times”
    
    I’d argue Muslims are dragging the Country back a thousand bloody years..
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:04am
  - Duxton
    
    “…back to post war times.”
    
    I assume you mean post Athenian Wars?
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:25am
backster

Also on Hoskings this morning…Overseas immigration for the year to May was the same as for May last year. The overall nct figure was a decrease of 6ooo out of 170000 gross due to Kiwis fleeing the Socialist Government for Australia.(probably skilled oilmen and miners)
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June 25, 2018 9:11am
- softail 1450
  
  backster, Just as that POS Clarke gutted our armed forces,especially the RNZAF.
  With labour its groundhog day again because they don’t know what the fuck they are doing.
  The damage done by these clowns will take a decade to fix.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:25am
  - ztev
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    So replacing Skyhawks which first came out in the late 50s, with F16s which came out in the late 70s.
    Simple fact we couldnt afford an fast jet airforce that was of no use to us or our allies.
    in 2008 National who promised a fast jet airforce backed away because they too didnt want to have a capital spend of $1.5 bill plus annual extra spend of $250 mill. Prices have gone up since then.
    
    national has kept most of the navy tied up all so it can play with the big guys in futile efforts in ME rocks and sand.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:17am
    - Philview
      
      Then we had some guy flying a plane at the Sky Tower and no fighters to shoot the plane down. Fortunately, he had just broken up with his girlfriend and was harmless but it did expose a problem that hasn’t been addressed.
      
      We need some kind of aerial defence capability.
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:38am
      - rangitoto
        
        Should have replaced the Skyhawks with A10 Warthogs. Serious firepower.
        
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        June 25, 2018 11:06am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Combat drones are (or will soon be) an order of magnitude cheaper.
        
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        June 25, 2018 11:08am
      - ztev
        
        We didnt ever have planes on standby for Auckland anyway. Shooting down over a city is laughable….
        US Does it with Air National Guard, we are never having that level of equipment for reserves.
        
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        June 25, 2018 5:15pm
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Time for facts
      https://www.beehive.govt.nz/feature/review-f16-aircraft-royal-new-zealand-airforce
      Shows that the F-16’s were built in the early ’90’s, hardly used, only for training.
      Cost Total cumulative about $250 mill over 5 years for 28 units
      RECOMMENDATIONS
      
      1. That the Government consider approaching the United States Government with a view to renegotiate the current F-16 package to include a lesser number of aircraft.
      2. That all Defence projects be reviewed as a matter of urgency, on a project by project basis, with a view to prioritising and funding them on the basis of their capacity – judged from an NZDF-wide perspective – to advance New Zealand’s national interests.
      3. That steps be taken to implement as soon as practicable all those aspects of the 1998 National Real Estate Consolidation Strategy that are already agreed by NZDF, and that decisions be taken on the remainder.
      4. That those parts of the 1991 Review of Defence Funding that have not yet been implemented, be urgently considered and where relevant adopted.
      Auntie helen PROMISED to follow the recommendations of the report, as copied above.
      She said there was “years” of life left in the Sky Hawks, within MONTHS they were mothballed and cost us MILLIONS to maintain for years, while they lay idle.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:03am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        It is indeed a great shame the succeeding National government refused to even think about defence, let alone fund it.
        
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        June 25, 2018 12:07pm
      - tf78
        
        Don’t forget the millions Labour spent on the “Lavs” – totally useless and not fit for purpose.
        
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        June 25, 2018 12:30pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’m not sure when there were last any smart decisions about defence equipment. A long time ago.
        
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        June 25, 2018 12:34pm
      - softail 1450
        
        trev, but its no problem to spend $400 million bribing first year students aye trev?
        
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        June 25, 2018 1:35pm
    - softail 1450
      
      trev, but its no problem to spend $400 million bribing first year students aye trev?
      
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      June 25, 2018 1:18pm
      - ztev
        
        First year apprentices, and all those doing all sort of practical certificates and diplomas
        fees policy starts at NZQA LEVEL 3, while university main starter courses such as bachelors are level 8.
        That means a lot courses that ARENT university based are covered.
        eg High level Truck drivers course is either level 3 or 4
        
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        June 25, 2018 5:19pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Who is Hoskings? Is he a friend of Keys?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:34am
  - Lance
    
    They play golf together IIRC
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:24am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  The miners went ages ago when Solid Energy crashed and burned- an actual business destroyed by national who leveraged it unsustainable to pay special dividends.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/94374046/solid-energy-to-flood-spring-creek-mine
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/95585758/solid-energy-sells-last-of-reefton-mines
  
  Give us an actual business which is closing because of the oil/gas ban on exploration
  
  Anyone… an address even.
  In the last 9 years we have seen factories close all over the place- Cadburys in Dunedin, Holcim in Westport. All had addresses
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:12am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    What utter rubbish
    Solid energy went under due to collapsing world coal prices and lab/greens ridiculous insistence that they get into methanol production (which lost masses of money)
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:07am
VicParking

My daughter in law is about to birth. I asked my son to ask for four rooms so he, I and our security squad and stay during the birthing period. If its good for the glitter its good for the dross.
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June 25, 2018 9:28am
- Maxx
  
  Make sure you contact the Herald as well – they’ll want to do a front-page article on “Another Kiwi follows after Jacinda paves the way”.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:58am
  - VicParking
    
    Change of plan. She’s going to have it in the orchard so she can get straight back into picking kiwi fruit.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:49am
Maggy Wassilieff

Erdogan claims victory
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44596072

Poor old Turkey.
3 Million Syrians about to be ordered home.
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June 25, 2018 9:28am
Captain Mainwaring

Well we got rid of Hugh again.
Well done team.
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June 25, 2018 9:37am
- Rodney Randall
  
  I commented on that post and wanted to see the follow up responses.
  
  That is rubbish Captain, His post was short and to the point.
  
  “Well done team”
  
  Team Vichy National
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:48am
- Rodney Randall
  
  Dpf I look forward to Hugh’s post being reinstated as early as possible.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:50am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    One of his posts was short and to the point, the other was long crap full of links repeated from yesterday. Multiple reports delete the whole thread which is a small price to pay. Sorry you were inconvenienced.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:06am
    - sooty
      
      RR, yep, early last year.
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:16am
  - Lance
    
    Along with barbed wire enemas for all
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:29am
BananaLlama

Is it safe to read NZ News again?
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June 25, 2018 9:41am
- BananaLlama
  
  Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford. Is this a girls name? poor kid.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:43am
  - Paulus
    
    Going for the Irish and Maori Vote remember.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:45am
    - kowtow
      
      Niamh for the Oirish vote , Neve for the ill educated bogan.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:10am
  - MrLovebucket
    
    Which when you reverse and decrypt it means
    
    “Gayford loves snow”
    
    I never took him for a skiier…..
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:32am
    - Longknives
      
      Black Sabbath were seemingly keen Skiers as well-
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9m7vQ2EsYI
      
      “Feeling happy in my vein
      Icicles within my brain ..
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:51am
  - jcuk
    
    My parents gave me one more name but nothing like those thank god … Things which parents do to their kids! But then the royal family is worse and they are NZ’s RF it seems 🙂
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:43am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Did they miss out a letter “r”
    Neve (r) Te Aroha (love)………
    Did they actually research the lame first….?
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:44am
    - lifesgood
      
      Excuse my ignorance but doesn’t ‘Te’ mean ‘the’?
      Funny sort of name to burden a kid with.
      
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      June 25, 2018 1:15pm
  - KevOB
    
    Never.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:02pm
  - GoVege
    
    Poor kid?
    This is one helluva lucky kid!
    How many other Kiwi kids get to spend 3 whole nights in hospital after being born?
    We all know “childbirth is a natural process” so nothing can possible go wrong requiring the intrusion of a doctor…..but better not to risk it with the PM’s child. 🙂
    
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    June 25, 2018 4:39pm
- Harkman
  
  No, it’s never safe, close your eyes ?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:44am
Harkman

Socialists don’t understand Newton’s Law:

I have long believed that National governments over thought the side effects of their actions while Labour governments don’t even consider them, they simply don’t care about chaos. Now in the weekend the All Blacks had a good victory in Dunedin’s covered stadium and since the E/quakes, figures in Chch have pushed for their own covered stadium, too which Labour has agreed to fund the stadium’s cost (why other cities don’t beg for their own covered stadium I don’t know) but don’t these idiots realise that a covered stadium in Christchurch will only halve the number of high profile events in Dunedin. Dunedin bankrupted itself building the thing. The likely outcome is two stadiums which are uneconomic to maintain.
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June 25, 2018 9:43am
- Philview
  
  Dunedin’s event management team have worked hard over several years to build a reputation and put relationships in place. Christchurch will find there is more involved than just building a stadium and could be several years before the thing pays off. However, would be great if they could start pulling in the acts who don’t come South. Dunedin’s runway isn’t big enough to get the gear in for the bands like U2, Rolling Stones, Cold Play etc
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:31am
Chuck Bird

I have no idea how legitimate these complaints are. They could be cases of young women who have had a bit too much to drink and regret consensual sex later. These young women are all adults. If a criminal offence has occurred they should complain to the police.

Just compare Labour’s attitude to these complaints and the victims at the Labour Youth Camp. They assume those accused are guilty the former but tried to cover up the perpetrator who sexually abused young victims in the latter case.

Speaking Secrets: Law firm Russell McVeagh ‘in a dark place’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12075779
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June 25, 2018 9:47am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Such simplistic, trivial arguments.
  
  You can’t do anything ‘official’ when you’re drunk/drugged, can’t work, consent to surgery or even a medical test, can’t drive or anything else that holds a level of serious responsibility and/or life/death effect. Adult or child.
  
  But the ‘children’ in the community think it’s okay to create a new human being and/or risk a terminal STI and/or take on a lifetime responsibility and expense when you’re drunk and that’s okay. It seems that every individual now believes they have ‘lord of the manor’ “rights” to screw whoever/whatever they feel like at the time and escape all consequences and/or make others pay them.
  
  Just as well I’m not in charge. I’d make sex while drunk/drugged a form of ‘statutory rape’. No-one, male or female, can be considered to have ‘consented’ to anything while drunk/drugged, certainly not something which is very likely to result in someone’s death – be it adult or child.
  
  The Left/Labour are caught between a rock and a hard place – championing their ‘rights’ to uncontrolled behaviour on the one hand versus their ‘rights’ to protection on the other. In fact, the whole society is, refusing to recognise the obvious anomalies.
  
  Before the consequences, sex is all presented as ‘fun’ which people should be allowed to engage in at will, without limit .
  
  After the consequences, it’s a ‘disaster’ which can turn peoples lives into long-term misery if not short-term death and requires endless taxpayers money and support in everything from medical research and treatment to social welfare, education, and housing – not to mention a great deal of angst.
  
  But still, apparently never the twain concepts shall meet in determining human behaviour, attitudes, and culture. What could possibly go wrong?
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:39am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Anne I never used the word drunk. Are you aware the law already covers what you suggest? In your proposed law what alcohol limit would you set?
    
    Are you aware that in many cases both parties have had too much to drink but only the man is held to account?
    
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    June 25, 2018 1:31pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      The capacity of human beings to split hairs and/or distract with tangents never fails to amaze me.
      
      Firstly, nevertheless – someone who has had ‘a bit too much to drink’ to the extent of making a decision they later ‘regret’ implies they would not have made that decision without alcohol.
      
      One could, then, say that their ‘normal faculties were impaired’ when making the decision. As being drunk can be defined as ‘affected by alcohol to the extent of losing control of one’s faculties or behaviour’ – I have no difficulty in construing that someone who makes a decision after drinking alcohol which they would not have made if not having drunk the alcohol can be said to be ‘drunk’.
      
      Secondly, what sort of idiocy is the question, ‘Are you aware that in many cases both parties have had too much to drink but only the man is held to account?”
      
      Of course I’m aware of it. What, in anything I’ve said, implies that I agree with it or am suggesting that? Women are every bit as responsible as men and should be equally held to account. But then, stop complaining. That only relates to sex – which men tend to treat as some sort of game of wits (and some women too).
      
      Men and women are equally prosecuted for driving drunk. They don’t have to hurt anyone – or even drive badly. They just have to have drunk a minimal amount of alcohol – and some lobby for zero tolerance at that. They just have to ‘take the risk’.
      
      Sexually, any man/woman can ‘risk’ anything you can dream of, with consequent immense costs for the rest of everyone else’s life/death, and the taxpayer, with complete impunity. It’s all ‘fun’, entertainment, stress relief etc.
      
      Give me one rational reason why that should be so.
      
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      June 25, 2018 2:05pm
      - GoVege
        
        Oh Lord it must be hard to be humble, when you’re so perfect in every way, Anne! 🙂 🙂
        
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        June 25, 2018 4:34pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        LOL, GoVege. Your comments never fail to prove the miraculous nature of the survival of the human species. When reading them, I know exactly how Julz feels when asked to comment on David Seymour’s ‘dancing’.
        
        What on earth does my ‘humility’ have to do with purposely sought and completely needless death, disease, misery, and $billions cost in the name of ‘fun’ – which is actually just satisfying the same primitive urge expressed by all life forms including viruses and bacteria (possibly prompted by them in some cases, much as rabid dogs bite others)?
        
        As in the case of HdPA’s rant, what we call ‘progressive’ – giving ourselves over completely to those urges – is in total defiance of previously learned ‘wisdom’ such as ‘an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure’ or ‘a fence at the top of the cliff instead of an ambulance at the bottom’ is better.
        
        I came across this quote from Malcolm Muggeridge yesterday – so true:
        
        “So the final conclusion would surely be that whereas other civilizations have been brought down by attacks of barbarians from without, ours had the unique distinction of training its own destroyers at its own educational institutions, and then providing them with facilities for propagating their destructive ideology far and wide, all at the public expense. Thus did Western Man decide to abolish himself, creating his own boredom out of his own affluence, his own vulnerability out of his own strength, his own impotence out of his own erotomania, himself blowing the trumpet that brought the walls of his own city tumbling down, and having convinced himself that he was too numerous, labored with pill and scalpel and syringe to make himself fewer. Until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, and polluted and drugged himself into stupefaction, he keeled over–a weary, battered old brontosaurus–and became extinct.”
        
        Another one is:
        
        “The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.”
        
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        June 25, 2018 5:04pm
  - Longknives
    
    “I’d make sex while drunk/drugged a form of ‘statutory rape’. No-one, male or female, can be considered to have ‘consented’ to anything while drunk/drugged,”
    
    Earth to Planet Anne-
    That is already the Law..
    
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    June 25, 2018 6:41pm
waikatogirl

Since yesterday when Cindy included “Te Aroha” as the name of her child, the msm has changed its narrative on the hometown of the child’s mother. Morrinsville, some 50kms or more west of Te Aroha township was heralded as the place Cindy grew up, went to HS, and had her first job in the local fish n chip shop. Poor cousin Morrinsville has now been dropped like a stone for the much-heralded township of Te Aroha. The local TA mayor has also launched a marketing campaign based on Cindy “grew up under the mountain she loves.” and is calling for tourists to visit. ?
Marketing 101.
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June 25, 2018 9:50am
- kevn
  
  @WG… I initially thought of the hot pools at Te Aroha as being ‘the special place’ some 10 months ago? Maybe? Rather than the town itself.
  Anyway, a better choice than Murupara as a middle name.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:03am
  - RalphT
    
    All I can say is that the child will be grateful that the parents didn’t conceive her while on a trip to a certain Hawke’s Bay hill: Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauo tamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu
    
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    June 25, 2018 12:02pm
- ztev
  
  Trouble is , Te Aroha is a dump, Morrinsville is much nicer. Not quite as grand as say Cambridge or Matamata
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:04am
  - Harkman
    
    Young Labour called Te Aroha “a dump,” shouldn’t you have run that past Cindy for official authority first?
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:39am
  - Poppa
    
    Ztev, I have lived in both places & you are quite wrong
    
    Morrinsville is a dump compared with Te Aroha
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:53am
- stephieboy
  
  waikatogirl, the PM was actually born in Hamilton 26th July 1980 and I believe grew up in Te Aroha,
  
  https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jacinda-Ardern
  
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  June 25, 2018 12:12pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Yes, we all know that sb. Morrinsville was her hometown where she lived during her formative years! As I said, she went to HS and had her first job there.
    
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    June 25, 2018 12:21pm
  - Longknives
    
    “The PM was actually born in Hamilton 26th July 1980”
    
    This ridiculous Ardern Woman must be way,way younger than that surely??
    I saw her talking to University Students during the Election and she was claiming to be a ‘Millenial’ like them!
    “They don’t care about our Generation” she was screeching…
    
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    June 25, 2018 6:39pm
Longknives

Bridges walked right into that ambush from Jeremy Wells.
I heard it live- I could sniff the set up a fucking mile away…
Two Leftie Radio jocks asking the National Party leader about Ardern’s baby? ‘Light heartedly’ leading him into controversial comments??
They made it out to be a ‘jokey’ conversation but anyone with half a brain knew this would blow up-Why the heck didn’t he just politely wish her the best then move on??
Bridges is a clever man but Jesus he walked into that one..
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June 25, 2018 9:54am
- big bruv
  
  I hope Soimon sticks to his guns for once. Not all of NZ has been taken in by the gender fluid bullshit.
  Sadly, I expect Soimon to revert to the norm and issue a grovelling apology.
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:57am
  - waikatogirl
    
    No,This morning on TV3 Simon said the Hauraki comments were lighthearted and not intended to upset. He wished Cindy and the baby the best. Batted away any attempt to put him on the spot.
    
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    June 25, 2018 10:50am
    - MCos
      
      The train’s left the station
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:02am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Sounds like he must have been a stupid prosecutor not to see traps a mile off- after it was his job to set them.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:03am
  - KevOB
    
    Why is the baby dressed with a green cap if not to de-gender it?
    What was the price paid for the photo rights?
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:07pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Why do these weirdos dress their babies in ugly clothes. A presumably beautiful baby – we don’t know because all rights go to the magazine paying the most – and it wears the sort of hat a bag lady would wear.
      
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      June 25, 2018 7:39pm
- Philview
  
  RNZ ran it as a lead story on the 9 am news this morning. I didn’t catch what he was meant to have said but they said he made some nasty comments about the baby, and Simon saying the comments have been taken out of context.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:21am
- VicParking
  
  I dont agree with the clever bit. He makes to many mistakes for his own good. Seems to make up policy on the hoof, has no killer instinct at question time (still a crown prosecutor) and is a weak debater.
  Will he last till 2020??
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:56am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right VP he is not looking leader like in any way shape of form and this silly incident again illustrates he is an easy target to provoke to run off at the mouth. Sadly still looking they are led by the B team.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:43pm
  - starboard
    
    Agree. He is not up to the job.
    Get the barby lit Collins.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:44pm
big bruv

Has there only been the one child born in NZ this year?
The only reason I ask is because of the way the media treated the event, I naturally assumed that the birth rate in NZ had dropped to zero.
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June 25, 2018 9:54am
- BananaLlama
  
  I naturally assumed that the birth rate in NZ had dropped to zero.
  
  For White Liberals it has.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    BananaLlama, and alt righters like you breed like bunny rabbits?
    
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    June 25, 2018 12:02pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      I don’t know what Alt Rightists like you get up to with your defective parts.
      
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      June 25, 2018 12:09pm
- Piniwi
  
  Patience bb the COL have encouraged the masses to not take themselves in hand so much by providing a Baby Bonus and their are so many young fillies out there ready for a new career. In fact that might trump the long term costs of the pretty horse tax since the resulting payments don’t stop until the baby is 18.
  
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  June 25, 2018 2:49pm
MCos

Anyone reading Kiwiblog would think there was only one baby born this year and that Mike Hosking was the only bloke on the radio.
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June 25, 2018 10:25am
- Monique Watson
  
  Yeah. The stork is dropping again mid July when Genter is off “for up to three months”.
  
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  June 25, 2018 12:53pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Funny MW she is making the most of a safe space after her recent run of blunders.
    
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    June 25, 2018 2:52pm
sooty

I see hughey has snuck into yesterdays and shit over it.
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June 25, 2018 10:28am
GoVege

The wardens at a refuge are kicking a woman and her 3 kids out, even though her violent husband is due to be released from prison shortly.
In their opinion, the family are not in danger.
Jeez…what do you have to do to convince these women….end up dead?
And isn’t Labour supposed to increase funding to refuges by a massive amount?
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June 25, 2018 10:47am
- Longknives
  
  Andrew Little’s thinking is that because Labour have given us so many more Cops they will be able to get there quicker to stop these guys reoffending!
  So that woman and her kids have nothing to worry about! Jacinda and Andy are on the case…
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:50am
  - rangitoto
    
    And if anything goes wrong then Andy says that’s just collateral damage. So no problem folks.
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:24am
- sam green
  
  Refuges are not there to solve homelessness.
  
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  June 25, 2018 11:14am
  - GoVege
    
    Sam: the woman’s husband has actually been jailed for his violence.
    It takes a fair bit of aggro to get thrown in the slammer for an extended period.
    And aren’t women’s refuges supposed to “support” victims of violence?
    Are they really going to serve an eviction notice on this abused woman and her kids?
    How incredibly cruel.
    
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    June 25, 2018 11:23am
    - sam green
      
      There’s a lot more to this story than meets the eye.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12076034
      
      I stand by that comment meatandtwovege. I fully support the work of Refuge. Their staff are trained to do their job, not solve homelessness.
      
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      June 25, 2018 11:47am
      - GoVege
        
        So what’s the “more than meets the eye”, Sam?
        I already read that article.
        I support WR too, I even donate to them.
        But I doubt the workers are all as perfect as you think.
        There were two cases in the past when young women were murdered after being kicked out of refuges.
        One was apparently kicked out because she owed them $20.
        Seems her life was worth less.
        I had the misfortune to need the services of refuge many years ago.
        I met some incredibly lovely women in charge.
        Strangely enough they never seemed to stay there long.
        I suspect they were bullied out by the dragons who stayed there for 10 or 20 years, and were only removed if there were enough written complaints or they were caught ripping them off.
        Let’s hope WR is not reverting back to the bad old days.
        
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        June 25, 2018 1:54pm
      - sam green
        
        Where did I ever say that their workers were perfect? Nowhere.
        You have heard one side of this story. 2+2 doesn’t make 22? Or does it?
        My point was and still is that Refuge is not there to solve a lack of housing.
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:46pm
      - GoVege
        
        WR is supposed to provide refuge for women and children escaping violence.
        The man this family is hiding from was so violent, he was jailed for 18 months.
        His conviction is the proof that he is a dangerous man.
        That is why they need refuge.
        If WR don’t want to protect this family, the least they should do is arrange for another safe house for them to stay in.
        This is not a case of someone simply needing accommodation.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:04pm
      - sam green
        
        How do you know? Oh that’s right – you don’t.
        Nor do I because this is a very one sided story.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:37pm
- MrLovebucket
  
  The violent husband was probably one of the hordes in prison for a minor traffic misdemeanour and so should present no danger or be any sort of issue on release. In fact, He probably will qualify for compensation which Little will gladly arrange and pay.
  
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  June 25, 2018 11:23am
Manolo

As expected: Turkish sultan Erdogan wins.
http://news.trust.org/item/20180624203412-9ou8s

Tayyip Erdogan and his ruling AK Party claimed victory in Turkey’s presidential and parliamentary polls on Sunday, overcoming the biggest electoral challenge to their rule in a decade and a half.
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June 25, 2018 12:40pm
- GoVege
  
  Maybe old Erdy could take some of the thousands of Muslim refugees swarming into Europe.
  Apparently his country still entertains hopes of joining the EU.
  🙂
  
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  June 25, 2018 2:02pm
Prince

NZRL boss fumes at disgraceful anthem rendition.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/104978809/fuming-nz-rugby-league-boss-labels-anthem-disgraceful

The rest of us fume at disgraceful Kiwi performance.
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June 25, 2018 12:41pm
- Longknives
  
  Why are they even playing in Denver??
  
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  June 25, 2018 2:17pm
Manolo

Wondderful, progressive Islam, isn’t it?

stephieboy is confident his fellow Muslims will arrive in the 18th century sooner or later (not to mention the 20th or 21st).
https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-women-driving-ban-ends-213714400.html

Saudi women celebrated taking the wheel for the first time in decades Sunday as the kingdom overturned the world’s only ban on female motorists, a historic reform expected to usher in a new era of social mobility.
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June 25, 2018 12:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, the beacon of progressivism and liberalism shines brightly and eventually penetrates even the darkest corners of our planet.
  
  Alas, not yours.
  
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  June 25, 2018 2:58pm
softail 1450

Just had a 2017 nissan electric car in my workshop,
proudly stuck on the dash is a small badge “ZTEV”
In smaller letters it says “zero tailpipe emission vehicle” FFS trevs a fucking greeny .
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June 25, 2018 1:25pm
- Poppa
  
  Except our Ztev has nothing but tailpipe emissions
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:35pm
- All_on_Red
  
  zero sums him up
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:38pm
softail 1450

Poppa, trevs nom de plume from this point on should be “tailpipe”.
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June 25, 2018 1:44pm
- Poppa
  
  I like it
  
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  June 25, 2018 1:56pm
Monique Watson

Youngest launched ten feet off a Pontoon today off Incline Beach. Followed his brothers in. Lesson for today: Never be afraid to dive but always check for rocks.
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June 25, 2018 1:58pm
- Rich Prick
  
  There’s a great bar at the Hyatt, if needs be. 🙂
  
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  June 25, 2018 3:13pm
starboard

Shariaboy caught out, this time its not a goat..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12077393
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June 25, 2018 2:47pm
- softail 1450
  
  starboard,septicboy could do with one of those gps devices for his partner,she keeps escaping citing, “cruel and unusual treatment”.
  We here on KB know all about that, we suffer the same thing of up to 100 posts a day by the uber goatbotherer.
  
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  June 25, 2018 3:51pm
pejhay

Watched Bridget Jone’s Baby last night on TV, and whaddayaknow, she more than once says “Let’s Do This…”, and then 9 months later she has a baby !
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June 25, 2018 2:53pm
Poppa

I have come out of self imposed media ban today thinking that the media may have come to their senses & got on with some news instead of baby tripe.

And then……along comes Soper still pushing his little gush box.

God help us
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June 25, 2018 2:58pm
Prince

I’m sure this would have stimultaed discussion on Kiwiblog a few days ago when it appeared on Stuff:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/104864469/airing-wellingtons-dirty-laundry–rough-sleepers-hung-out-to-dry-on-courtenay-pl

The original picture has been removed of Daniel Lowhon’s mattress surrounded by fag butts and bottles.

Among the various sanctimonious self-flagellation of city councillors and aid workers, Mr Lowhon’s instructions ring out clear…
“Give us some housing – sort it out. There’s heaps of homeless, it sucks.”

And no one dares suggest he may be at fault.
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June 25, 2018 3:01pm
starboard

BREAKING NEWS…
“More than 4000 IRD and MBIE staff to go on strike next month”

But the girl with the pretty hair and magic dust said there would be no strikes ? !

No, she cant be telling porkys…surely ?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12077470
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June 25, 2018 3:02pm
- Poppa
  
  But but but ….9 years of neglect
  
  Standard response to any question by any minister
  
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  June 25, 2018 3:06pm
  - MrLovebucket
    
    And she is on maternity leave so it doesn’t count.
    
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    June 25, 2018 3:15pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The funny thing is that we’re unlikely to notice any difference.
  
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  June 25, 2018 3:19pm
- Piniwi
  
  @starboard even funnier to see the Fool Factor (unintended consequences) again playing a big role as the COL ignore the cause and effect equation. Their argument is: “Spending millions on contractors while denying our members a cost of living pay increase is poor practice, and it’s not in the spirit of the new Government’s expectations for the public sector.”
  
  “To give just one example – IR’s system is unable to process the Best Start tax credit, which should give lower income families an extra $60 a week for each child.
  “It starts on 1 July, and members are told they will have to process this manually, drastically increasing their workload.”
  OMG they might have to do some work instead of trolling social network all day. Unfortunately there is not much left after having to fund 125 expert panels and groups. Who unlike contractors who have to deliver may only end up being scapegoats when things go belly up or ignored as the COL stick to the secret agreement.
  
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  June 25, 2018 3:45pm
- RF
  
  What a clusterfuk of a Govt. Now it’s IRD threatening strike action.
  
  What did the lying lass promise…. no strikes on her watch….
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:02pm
- The Heat
  
  Could they go on strike indefinitely?
  
  That would be a saving.
  
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  June 25, 2018 7:54pm
starboard

And another thieving maori..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12077291
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June 25, 2018 3:04pm
- sam green
  
  Another sad old fuck living in Thailand to get a lady boy root.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:34pm
Inandout

Time memes:
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/06/memes-mercilessly-mock-media/

So funny some of them.
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June 25, 2018 3:21pm
EAD_TWO

Surely charity should begin at home?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/british-jews-prepare-groundwork-for-influx-of-syrian-refugees/

Imagine a fanatically Nationalistic Flag-Waving country, an ethnostate, with rabidly protected borders, where you could literally gun down any brown people approaching, where you could build fuck-off concrete walls and sterilise Africans , put them in cages and boot them out. A country which forbade inter-racial marriage.

Imagine that country flying the flag of St George instead of that blue Rothschild star…….
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June 25, 2018 4:00pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Why the downticks?
  
  Surely what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander?
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:41pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Don’t forget to include the gas chambers in your comforting fantasy.
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:41pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    You sound like the folks in my 8.02am post trying to shut it down by invoking Pavlovian reflex language.
    
    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-goyim-know-shut-it-down
    
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    June 25, 2018 6:58pm
Odakyu-sen

It’s 5:06 a.m. and bright and sunny here in the Cotswolds. (We are enjoying good weather in England.)
There are cameras everywhere here, and I get a sense of a subtle conformity that is stronger than in the New World of New Zealand, but more in keeping with the Old World. In Japan, pressure to conform comes from the bottom up, but here in England I feel more that it is from the top down.
I am shocked at how the houses are so identical in terms of size, external appearance and color within a given suburb. Little boxes on the flat land (not on the hillside) but without the variation in color the ones in the song had.
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June 25, 2018 4:13pm
- nasska
  
  Surely the uniformity of the landscape is broken up by the taffy pink minarets of the mosques.
  
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  June 25, 2018 4:21pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  New Zealand in February is pretty hard to beat but I think England in June perhaps tops it.
  
  The lavender is in full bloom, Wimbledon about to start, the parks are full, the green tinge has been burned off the cricket wickets with strawberries and Pimms in abundance.
  
  If you get this message, I’d highly recommend a visit to a pub in the Cotswold village of Swinbrook called the Swan Inn on the banks of the river Windrush.
  
  An utterly bucolic place for lunch or dinner on an English Summers day.
  
  How long are you in the UK for Odakyu?
  
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  June 25, 2018 7:32pm
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    New Zealand in February is pretty hard to beat
    
    Nigeria is great. And they are mostly indigenous, native people. No cross breeding. Few immigrants. Very nationalistic. An ethnostate. And they’ll be World Cup champions soon.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:09pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      But it is full of Nigerians.
      
      I’ll pass thanks.
      
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      June 25, 2018 8:38pm
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        You are still cheering on the more ethnically pure countries like Nigeria, Japan and Senegal though – right?
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:47pm
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        still cheering on
        
        I’m aghast that we have to spell it out for him.
        
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        June 25, 2018 8:56pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        “Cheering” is the wrong choice for my level of engagement with the various sportsball teams at this tournament.
        
        As an ethnic European, it is impossible to muster any degree of enthusiasm for a team made up of Africans, Mulattos and other various mystery meat.
        
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        June 25, 2018 9:35pm
      - sam green
        
        Which ethnic European are you?
        
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        June 25, 2018 9:43pm
      - sam green
        
        No seriously, I’m interested.
        
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        June 25, 2018 10:33pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Just look at the absolute state of the so called “French” Team:
        
        https://dj0j0ofql4htg.cloudfront.net/cms2/image_manager/uploads/News/278084/7/1503578072_37bbd.jpg
        
        Exactly what are English and French people doing rooting for in their world cup teams?
        
        Why not just support Nigeria or something?
        
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        June 26, 2018 6:14am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’m a bit relieved that EADolf has finally revealed himself as a Nigerian. Sure, it contrasts a bit with his enthusiastic Nazism, but I’d like to wish him and Nigeria’s football team well for their game against Argentina tomorrow, and hope they will qualify for the round of 16.
        
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        June 26, 2018 6:55am
Odakyu-sen

Oh, and why is Kiwiblog now carrying so many advertisements by retirement investment firms inviting me to contact them if I have £250,000 or more to invest?
I don’t recall seeing so much advertising on this blog last week…
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June 25, 2018 4:18pm
cha

But trade wars are good, and easy to win…

The drop in Chinese FDI in the US is real and persistent: In the first half of 2018, Chinese companies completed acquisitions and greenfield investments worth only $1.8 billion – a drop of more than 90% from 1H 2017 and the lowest level in seven years. The pace of newly announced transactions remained similarly depressed.

Cumulative 2018 net Chinese FDI in the US is negative if one includes asset divestitures: Chinese investors sold $9.6 billion of US assets in the first five months of 2018, mostly driven by deleveraging pressures from Beijing. With these divestitures, China’s net US direct investment is negative to the tune of $7.8 billion so far this year.

https://rhg.com/research/arrested-development-chinese-fdi-in-the-us-in-1h-2018/
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June 25, 2018 4:53pm
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  Cha,,,, oh god ,seriously?
  
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  June 25, 2018 5:16pm
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    Yeah,,,, seriously,,,,,,!
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:10pm
Fletch

Quick Photoshop edit of Donald Trump with film director David Lynch’s hair –

IMAGE

Looks quite good? Suits him, I think.
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June 25, 2018 5:04pm
nasska

When the country goes toes up under the current administration at least we’ll be able to identify one of the contributory factors. That is “Baby brain”!

….”An intriguing study published last year showed there were reductions in grey matter in the brains of pregnant women in regions known to be closely tied to processing social information”…..

BUT

…..”the same study showed that this loss of grey matter was restored two years after the birth of the child”….

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/baby-brain-pregnancy-real-memory-loss-task-performance-worse-women-research-a8161921.html
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June 25, 2018 5:43pm
nasska

Saudi Arabia have just launched an online advert aiming at mass recruitment of panel beaters & clutch replacement specialists.
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June 25, 2018 6:25pm
- Longknives
  
  If I could give that one two upticks I would Nasska!
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:34pm
- Inandout
  
  Lots of sad insurers here.
  
  https://www.najm.sa/en/insurance-company
  
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  June 25, 2018 6:40pm
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  Clutch replacement?
  I doubt whether there’s been a car with a clutch in Saudi Arabia in the last 40 years.
  But yes, I’ll agree with the panel beaters.
  
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  June 25, 2018 10:43pm
Viking2

A video of a man punching a possum in the face has been condemned by animal rights groups as an act of “deliberate cruelty” – not pest control.

In a short clip posted to Facebook on Monday by Newstalk ZB radio show The Country, a young man can be seen approaching a possum sitting on a fence post on a farm in Waimate.

“The SPCA is disappointed to see such deliberate animal cruelty inflicted on a possum,” a spokesperson told Newshub.

“Punching a stunned possum in the face is not pest control.”

The incident has been referred to the SPCA Inspectorate, a group with the power to prosecute people who deliberately harm animals.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/06/possum-punch-condemned-as-appalling-animal-cruelty.html

You have to be kidding. SPCA ; Too much power and too much money.
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June 25, 2018 7:34pm
- itstricky
  
  You have to be kidding. SPCA
  
  A possum is a pest. Shoot it. But no defenceless animal (human or otherwise) deserves to be tortured by munters. Maybe they should go and, I dunno, steal candy from babies for a laugh instead?
  
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  June 25, 2018 8:07pm
  - nasska
    
    I actually agree itstricky. As an ex cocky I’m all for eradicating noxious animals but gratuitous cruelty doesn’t float my boat.
    
    Yet V2’s observation that the SPCA has “too much power and too much money” is spot on. They’re a pack of mad women without functioning men & six cats apiece.
    
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    June 25, 2018 8:50pm
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      Only 6?
      They are just down from my workshop and they drive like mad cat women with diarrhea.
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:11pm
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      Nasska: the SPCA has to spend thousands of its own funds, with no government funding (unless that has changed in recent times), to prosecute people for extreme cruelty to animals.
      Surely if people break the law, the government should pay for prosecuting them, not a voluntary organization.
      
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      June 25, 2018 10:21pm
    - softail 1450
      
      nasska, the SPCA are happy for a possum to be shot in the face with a small calibre bullet ,fall out of a tree,crawl away and die slowly of blood loss yet get all upset about some buffoon slapping a stunned possum.
      They are a mega pest in our country ,its proven that they regularly seek out and eat native bird eggs,I don’t give a toss how they die as long as they do.
      
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      June 26, 2018 6:49am
Nostradamus

From the oink oink file:

Hamilton’s mayor is being labelled “ageist” for appointing a new 30-something as deputy chair of a committee and accused of rewarding his inner circle for voting for his pet projects.

So what happened?

Hamilton councillor James Casson posted on his public Facebook page on Thursday that the “jobs for the boys” concept was not dead after learning a councillor who has only been in the role for four months and beaten him and others to the position. When asked what he meant by the cryptic post, Casson said mayor Andrew King had decided to appoint new councillor Ryan Hamilton to the role of deputy chair of community and services committee despite both he and fellow councillor Siggi Henry expressing interest in it last year.

James Casson is disappointed that he missed out on the gravy trough. The article is worth reading as Siggi Henry thinks she missed out too. “She had been attending community events with former councillor Philip Yeung after he took her under his wing as a new councillor and decided to keep doing that after his death”. FFS – attending community events means you get to slop around in gravy?! The sense of entitlement to public money just for keeping a seat warm is amazing!
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June 25, 2018 8:57pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Siggi Henry is the anti-fluoride nutter, isn’t she?
  
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  June 25, 2018 9:07pm
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    And she surely gets bonus points for needing a mentor to point out that attending community events is a good idea for a councillor!
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:09pm
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    Mike
    
    One fact I didn’t know about Siggi Henry (from her Hamilton City Council profile page):
    
    Siggi has a strong interest in environmental issues, including the use of pesticides and herbicides in public places, and lives in a unique eco-friendly straw-bale house built by her and her husband.
    
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    June 25, 2018 9:13pm
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      Appropriate choice of accommodation for a wanna-be trougher (1st little piggy).
      
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      June 25, 2018 9:25pm
Hugh Pavletich

US new home sales surge in May … Reuters / CNBC

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/new-home-sales-may.html

• New home sales grew 6.7 percent in May.

• This is the highest level since November 2017.

• Sales in the South surged to their highest level in nearly 11 years.
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … IS KIWIBUILDS PHIL TWYFORD A BETTER PROPERTY OPERATOR THAN THESE GUYS ? …
  
  Leak latest saga in ongoing Christchurch Airport hotel ‘disaster’ | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/104889096/leak-latest-saga-in-ongoing-christchurch-airport-hotel-disaster
  
  A major water leak at the $82 million Novotel Christchurch Airport has those involved labelling it a “disaster”.
  
  The water leak caused significant damage, insiders say, and comes after extensive delays because of mistakes with steel and multiple problems with pre-fabricated bathroom pods. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  … A few further lessons from Greater Christchurch … (The GREATS are the smaller and functional Selwyn and Waimakariri Councils) …
  
  Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town
  
  It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.
  
  The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.
  
  Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.
  
  The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.
  
  However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.
  
  READ MORE:
  * Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
  * Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
  * Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
  * Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame
  
  … then we get this ‘all over the reservation’ stuff from Phil Twyford with Newshubs Duncan Garner this morning ! …
  
  Prefabs won’t make KiwiBuild homes cheaper – Twyford … Newshub
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/06/prefabs-won-t-make-kiwibuild-homes-cheaper-twyford.html
  
  … Please Phil … just abolish the artificial urban limits and properly debt finance infrastructure … and let the builders build affordable housing … with them taking the risks – not us …
  
  Opinion: Let the builders build – Kevin Atkinson of Generation Homes | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/104213530/opinion-let-the-builders-build
  
  … extract …
  
  … We need to let builders get on and do their job and not be underwriters of land development.
  
  Generation Homes is building 300 to 400 houses a year. We could easily double that within our existing resources if there were infrastructure funding assistance from councils for new affordable housing developments. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  NEW ZEALAND: There is nothing ‘affordable’ about Kiwibuild Housing Minister Twyford
  
  By Hugh Pavletich
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/05/garner_says_kiwibuild_a_hoax.html/comment-page-1#comment-2209572
  
  … with extensive further posts on thread …
  
  Kiwibuild (however it is finally structured) CANNOT work without
  affordable land and
  properly debt financed infrastructure …
  
  … check … recently updated …
  
  PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING
  … refresh / reload if necessary …
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
  
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  June 26, 2018 7:10am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    TIME TO FIRE THE CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL AND APPOINT COMMISSIONERS … ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
    Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/06/links-26-june-2018/#comment-3130635
    
    Floating asset sales for Christchurch is too little, too late … Mike Yardley OPINION | The Press / Stuff.co.nz
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/104975392/floating-asset-sales-for-christchurch-is-too-little-too-late
    
    … extract …
    
    … So now we face a 17 per cent rates rise over the next three years. The council would have you believe this year’s average annual rates hike is 5.5 per cent, yet their own documents tabulate the figure as 5.72 per cent, when you factor in the disingenuous way they account for the cathedral levy. The sad truth remains that the Dalziel-led council has betrayed its word on rates restraint.
    
    Last September, the council declared its LTP focus was on “keeping rate rises below 5 per cent – even if it means reducing services.” Earlier this year, I referred to how my rates bill has exploded by 83 per cent since 2007. It’s now on track to soon spiral to 135 per cent. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    … excerpt of my Christchurch NewstalkZB comments yesterday
    
    Harsh criticism of the Christchurch City Council’s priorities – 25-Jun-2018 – NZ Politics news
    
    http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=271483
    
    … what I wrote mid 2012 following the Peoples Protest February …
    
    Christchurch: The Way Forward | Scoop News
    
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1206/S00251/christchurch-the-way-forward.htm
    
    … ENOUGH IS ENOUGH …
    
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    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      CHRISTCHURCH CITY COUNCIL … THE BUREAUCRATICALLY BLOATED URBAN WRECKING MACHINE …
      
      … Fleeing political losers …
      
      Christchurch City Council debt to grow 75 per cent to $2.1 billion | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/104896675/christchurch-city-council-debt-to-grow-75-per-cent-to-21-billion
      
      Asset sales are again being mooted with the Christchurch City Council’s debt is set to skyrocket to $2.1 billion in six years.
      
      The council is due to sign off on a $10.6b, 10-year budget on Tuesday, confirming rates increases of 5.5 per cent for the next two years and 5 per cent for the following three years. Rates will be reduced to 2.9 per cent in 2028.
      
      The long-term plan (LTP) does not include plans to sell assets, but two councillors on Friday said the council needed to consider partially selling assets as its net debt was signalled to increase from $1.2b in 2019 to $2.1b in 2024, when it would start to track down again. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      NZ Initiative’s Eric Crampton highlights the risk ratepayers have if local Councils get into financial trouble and says we all need to keep an eye on whether Council debt-funded projects make sense | interest.co.nz
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/93957/nz-initiatives-eric-crampton-highlights-risk-ratepayers-have-if-local-councils-get
      
      … February Christchurch The Press report …
      
      Christchurch cycleways to cost $252m as city council proposes delaying completion | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/101672430/christchurch-cycleways-to-cost-252m-as-city-council-proposes-delaying-completion
      
      No wonder people (and businesses) are fleeing …
      
      Lincoln (South Christchurch): From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press
      … h/t GF …
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town
      
      It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.
      
      The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.
      
      Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.
      
      The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the East Frame development has been uphill all the way.
      
      However, take the road half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago.
      
      READ MORE:
      * Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
      * Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
      * Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
      * Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame
      
      … not surprisingly … this news from Statistics New Zealand today …
      
      Population growth from migration continues slowing with big drops in gains from China, India and the UK, Statistics NZ says | interest.co.nz
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94426/population-growth-migration-continues-slowing-big-drops-gains-china-india-and-uk
      
      Population growth from migration continues to decline, with a net gain of 2322 in May, the lowest it has been for the month of May since 2014.
      
      On an annual basis there was a net gain, (the surplus of long term arrivals minus long term departures), of 66,243 in the 12 months to May, the lowest it has been since the 12 months to May 2015, according to the latest Statistics NZ figures.
      
      The net migration gain in the 12 months to May was down 7.9% compared to the previous 12 months, while the net gain for the month of May was down 25.5% compared to May last year, suggesting the trend is continuing to decline.
      
      The slowdown in the net gain is mainly due to increasing numbers of people leaving the country, while arrivals are more stable. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
      … IMPORTANT EARLIER REPORTS …
      
      Poll shows local government has a reputation problem | The National Business Review
      … where are the reports of subsequent polls ? …
      
      https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/poll-shows-local-government-has-reputation-problem-b-172979
      
      Local Government New Zealand failed to release the results of polling in subsequent years.
      
      Why ?
      
      Why hasn’t Lawrence Yule … Nationals idea of an ‘action man’ … been asked to explain ?
      
      This in large measure explains why the (Anti) Local Government Commissions proposals in subsequent years, to amalgamate the smaller local authorities in the Wellington, Hawkes Bay and Northland region failed … wisely rejected by local voters.
      
      The whole lot of them !
      
      The wider New Zealand public is well aware of the amalgamated disasters of Auckland and Christchurch … ungovernable bureaucratic basket cases.
      
      It was Chief Executives pay that triggered the 4,500 Christchurch Peoples Protest February 2012 …
      
      Christchurch: The Way Forward | Scoop News
      
      http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1206/S00251/christchurch-the-way-forward.htm
      
      Sensible politicians … across the political spectrum … understand the critical importance of local control.
      
      At the same time as the massive Peoples Protest 1 February 2012, a former Labour Christchurch Central MP Brendon Burns had this to say …
      
      Better communication can shine a light in the darkness | Stuff.co.nz
      
      http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/perspective/6380541/Better-communication-can-shine-a-light-in-the-darkness
      
      … extract …
      
      ‘ … For this city to best recover from its seismic nightmare, the process of decision- making needs to be inverted to truly empower communities. Such a radical change is very difficult to accept for anyone – of any political persuasion – who happens to be in power.
      
      To date, the required response is tokenistic. A top-down command and control system may be appropriate in the days after a disaster but not in a recovery which will take years. Among the ultimate victims will be those who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes to true community engagement. Just look at the Christchurch City Council….’
      .
      .
      There are two types of local government in this world … the small and the bad.
      
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      June 26, 2018 9:13am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Acting PM Winston Peters says enabling young couples to buy houses for the equivalent of 5x their income is the Govt’s long-term objective, but it won’t happen during its first term | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/94470/acting-prime-minister-says-getting-average-house-price-5x-average-income-government%E2%80%99s
        
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Hugh,,,?????? who cares .
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