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Paulus Gnome

This post is almost guaranteed to make one a little sick in ones mouth and may not work for everyone this early in the morning but here goes anyway.

‘A spade driven into the ground in a Northland backblock marked the kind of partnership ancestors of three hapū only dreamed about when they signed the Treaty of Waitangi.

So said Ngāti Hine Forestry Trust chairman Pita Tīpene when the first tree of the Government’s One Billion Trees programme was planted at Pukeatua, in remote Ngāti Hine forestry lands yesterday morning.

Up to 4 million trees will eventually be planted on 400 hectares owned by the trust partners, Ngāti Hine, Ngāti Rangi and Ngāti Kawa.

The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) overseen by Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has seeded the joint venture with $6 million.’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12062124

If you ever in any doubt about the standard of churnalism in the New Zealand MSM and that maori are the only race on the planet worthy, this will certainly confirms your prejudices.

4 million; the side bar tells me we are only 58 million short to date plus another seven that were cut down at the Northcross intersection on East Coat Road on the Northshore last weekend.

Labour: the collective noun for Muppets since 1916
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June 1, 2018 8:02am
- G152
  
  By now even the locals will know that there are few trees planted and no jobs on the horizon.
  Did you see the land they’re going to plant over?
  Looks like the previous forest was dropped quite a while ago.
  And 28 years to cropping?
  2046
  And what’s the price of fuel going to be then?
  And the Northland roads… will they be up to all the Forestry traffic?
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    Who cares about harvesting in 2046.
    
    The purpose of the exercise is for Jones to get as much pork into his mates’ pockets as he can so they will look after him when NZF is thrown out in 2020.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:48am
    - Piniwi
      
      Right cmm it should be more correctly called the Maori Regional Development Fund. They are not stupid even though the elite continue to ignore the plight of “their”. Forestry renders them a double bonus since apart from the gains from harvesting they get ETS payments throughout the growing years. That one is a bit hard to fathom since NIWA are completely lost when it comes to assessing the CO2 uptake of any farming activity yet. But they obviously have formula the natives “approve” of.
      
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      June 1, 2018 2:14pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Actually Pukeatua isn’t too far from Whangarei and isn’t a bad place to ship from. Whangarei Port is pretty limited by draft (or it was, may have changed) but there’s a reasonable amount of logs that go out that way.
    
    Not the worst place to plant. The far North would have been much worse, and there’s quite a bit of forestry on the Aupouri peninsular and further North to Te Paki. Those will be of limited value due to extraction and trucking costs.
    
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    June 1, 2018 12:39pm
    - Jack5
      
      Port Whangarei has been closed to commercial shipping for 11 years.
      
      There’s plenty of port-facility land, and one of the country’s best natural deep-water ports, at Marsden Point. North Port, the operator there, shipped nearly two and a half million tonnes of logs in its last financial year (to June 30, 2017).
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:22pm
- Harkman
  
  So a big kick back for a local iwi, didn’t Winston First just spend the last 25 years crusading against this?
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:51am
- Philview
  
  I half caught the news report last night and it sounded like the Government will cover the costs, prisoners will do the work and Iwi will get the revenue when they are cut down.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:52am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    From those according to their ability to those according to the colour of their great great great great great grandparents
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:13am
    - jcuk
      
      But I thought in most cases the colour was white?
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:11am
- VicParking
  
  From the TV article on it last night it seems that the land shown had already been planted last Autumn.
  No doubt Indiana Jones will claim these as part of his 100m.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:53am
- Yvette
  
  Shane Jones is talking about as much krap as Phil Twyford spouts –
  “Up to 4 million trees will eventually be planted on 400 hectares owned by the trust partners, Ngāti Hine, Ngāti Rangi and Ngāti Kawa.”
  Further down the item Jones is quoted –
  “We’ll plant 500,000 pine trees this year, with a further 2 million planted over the next three years.”
  
  The last ambiguous sentence – does that mean 2.5 million (500,000 plus another 2 million and that will take 3 years) or 6.5 million (the first 500,000 then another 2 million each for three years)?
  Is it 2 million over, or two below, the 4 million at the start of the article.
  Well done, Shane Twyford.
  You can’t see the fucking forest for the lack of trees.
  
  But does it matter? At the point where these trees actually mature – supposedly planted to sequester carbon and save the planet – they are going fucking cut them all down.
  
  That is the hole in Shane’s plan to count Forestry trees in with his total – Forestry may plant 50 million trees a year, but that is to keep up with cutting around 50 million of them down each year.
  Foresty’s net contribution to Shane’s tree tally is NIL.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:56am
- KevOB
  
  Some trees will be planted, some place, sometime, somewhere.
  
  Ngati Hine proposes to plant only 0.4% of the 10 year program. However 400ha only provides space for 1 seedling/m². That also conflicts with official advice of planting at 1/10m² with final spacing at 1/33m².
  
  Nominal time to maturity 28 years.
  
  http://www.trc.govt.nz/assets/Documents/Guidelines/Land-infosheets/AF06radiatapine2.pdf
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:13am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Exactly. You can’t plant 10000trees per hectare, so 4million is total bollocks, 1000 per hectare is closer to reality for a mature forest so they’ll be lucky to get 500k trees on 400 Hectares. Innumerate media asleep at wheel.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:25am
- backster
  
  More slush for the Ngapuhi $6000,000 for 4000 shareholders.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:17am
- Colville
  
  ummm…
  
  400 Hectares @ 1200/Ha is 480,000
  
  Where the fuck do they get 4 mil trees from?
  
  To get to 4 mil stems you need to plant one per sq meter. That wont work well!
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:34am
Paulus

Why show pictures of an existing growing forests planted some time ago – assume these will be counted.
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June 1, 2018 8:03am
Monique Watson

“Evening love
How’s your day?
I’m bringing you the weather from the satellite jigsaw
Today was fine”

In today’s news:

Weather is a little crap but nothing to write home about.
Little is all noise and National is rising in the polls.
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June 1, 2018 8:04am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Glorious down here in the ‘naki Monique, and a short day to boot – The Blond and I are off for a very long weekend to the islands at lunchtime. Was a little cold for my run this morning, left the house at 530AM, and still warming up.
  
  I have, BTW, a tshirt that tells me you think Im dumb 😀
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:26am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Was it a “Taranaki Hard Core”, t-shirt”? 🙂
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:44am
    - starboard
      
      It’s 0630 here in Phuket.. 28 balmy degrees ? another tough day ahead.
      
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      June 1, 2018 11:35am
      - GazzaW
        
        Stay away from those girly bars starboard! 😉
        
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        June 1, 2018 1:19pm
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      No, from the advert “Monique says your dumb”. My kids think its hilarious 🙂
      
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      June 1, 2018 3:20pm
Inandout

Jackson is not TV material, he is just a Maori bully. You are not shouting on a marae now you prick, just a morning talk show. Garner later tried to crawl a bit by saying Jackson’s mother ‘was nice’, but the damage had been done. Bring back slippery Twyford who at least doesn’t scream.
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June 1, 2018 8:05am
- softail 1450
  
  inandout, it was embarrassing for other maori watching, jackson has always been nothing more than a troughing thug on govt money,actually his whole whanau are uber troughers.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:12am
  - Inandout
    
    I agree, but Garner has discovered his ‘whanau side’ so he cosies up to Jackson’s family. Fridays with Jackson will not be my watch I’m afraid. Judith was best to let the overpaid idiot rant, it really showed him up.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:19am
  - flipper
    
    Absolutely.
    They were schooled by their mother, June, the notorious “Invoice Jackson” who charged $500 per hour plus costs to “serve” on any committee/board.
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:02am
- MickMac
  
  Garner was a total tool.
  
  Wanker was condecending to Collins when she wasn’t there.
  He was useless to Jackson.
  
  Talk is cheap.
  To never have Jackson back is doing.
  That won’t happen Garner models/[resents himself as a kiwi bloke with heart.
  At heart he is a progressive.
  
  No difference TV1 and 3 in the am.
  Ideological poison the both of them.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:16am
  - Inandout
    
    Streaming overseas news is available, so that is an AM option on Fridays.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:21am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Garner allowed Jackson to destroy the credibility of his show.
    No other MP, no matter the hue, has done this.
    It appears to be a mini “question time”, for opposition to question and the govt to explain.
    Jackson turned into a shouting match, because he didn’t want to answer ANY questions.
    If it was me, I’d be making a public announcement.
    Willie Jackson is persona non grata on the AM show, Labour and National are free to send who ever they like to do this segment, but the individual will be banned if they behave like this…NOTE Labour or National!!!!!!
    If either party choose not to send someone or run out of people….the show will carry on with the segment and we may call in another party to replace Labour.
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:13am
    - GoVege
      
      Has Willy ever apologized for saying he would murder his wife if she was ever unfaithful?
      Don’t we have enough violence against Maori women and children without a respected leader talking about doing it?
      
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      June 1, 2018 12:11pm
- lifesgood
  
  What is this about? Did Garner interview Jackson? Link?
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:35am
- VicParking
  
  You can’t scream when your mouth is full of crap.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:55am
Paulus

Do you think Twyford wakes up every morning saying
“I am not a Liar – I am simple incompetent twit with a big mouth and cannot help myself ?”
Any other Party would gave given a DCM long time ago – but silly little girl is too busy babying – of course who would replace him – they are all useless.
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June 1, 2018 8:07am
- sooty
  
  Twitford is like a tin can with a couple of stones in it. It just makes a hell of a din.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:43am
- hullkiwi
  
  I’m with you, I heard him at 7.10 on Red Radio. He couldn’t help himself, rather than saying nothing he was shooting his mouth of & in particular Paula Bennett was the target. The Labour spin machine in overdrive after last week.
  Back to the point, shooting off about ‘poor families’ chucked out of state houses for smoking P, tough. They were breaking the law, & rather than saying they were breaking tenancy agreements the moron is making policy on the hoof & thinking about giving compensation. Give me strength.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:55am
  - oldpark
    
    @hullkiwi.
    You are on the button again. Who would be a Private Landlord. in the eyes of the “Coalition of Corruption and Chaos” they plan to bypass Landlords on the great “P” scam ,and compensate State House Tenants.Peters selected gang of no hopers with Twyford aboard think “rich prick” mum and dad Landlords can suck it up.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:39am
    - Gravelroad
      
      There seems to be a bit of a campaign going on to normalise P use.
      Maybe part of the wider push to keep people out of jail.
      Trouble is, round here there have been several court cases where people have caused serious road traffic accidents while smoking P, not to mention a spate of house and business burgs to fund P use.
      Police say that P in this town is by far the biggest problem they face.
      Politicians will soon be saying it is not as bad as tobacco cigarettes .
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:13am
      - hullkiwi
        
        That t**l Ross Bell of the Drug Foundation is also trying to normal use P smoking. Yet at the same time Red Radio are happy to also run items about what damage P smoking is doing to families in the Maori community in particular. These people need to wake up and stop smoking their own s**t!
        
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        June 1, 2018 10:26am
Longknives

Apparently stealing cars (wearing your Gang colours) and getting into high-speed Police chases is just ‘Typical teenagers up to mischief!’

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104371087/teen-who-died-in-crash-a-good-kid-who-made-a-bad-choice-whngai-mum-says

Man I must have been a boring kid…
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June 1, 2018 8:09am
- Inandout
  
  He was a goood booooy, sob sob.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:12am
  - MickMac
    
    Darwin awards material.
    
    We are better off without them.
    Shame.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:17am
    - sooty
      
      Quick do a haka.
      
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      June 1, 2018 8:44am
      - Harkman
        
        Yes the new traffic infringement enforcers did a Haka last night to celebrate their futures as revenue gatherers.
        
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        June 1, 2018 8:56am
      - kowtow
        
        harkman
        
        But the very obvious and deliberate diversity in their make up was something to celebrate………
        
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        June 1, 2018 10:07am
    - GoVege
      
      One of these kids worked full time (if at a bacon factory) and had a dream of buying a home by 25.
      Hardly a Darwin award.
      
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      June 1, 2018 12:28pm
  - GoVege
    
    You heartless soandsos!!!
    These were perfectly nice kids…you have no right to judge them for a few immature mistakes.
    Save your celebrating for when some real basta*ds finish themselves off….like those sadistic creeps that DF is showcasing as deserving preventative detention (or preferably execution.)
    
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    June 1, 2018 2:59pm
- artemisia
  
  The signs would have been there for years. The targeting social investment approach may have redirected him if identified early. Too late for this one obviously – the social investment approach I mean – but where is the approach now?
  
  Crickets.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:33am
  - hullkiwi
    
    The bureaucracy weren’t interested. Would have meant a family breaking the dependency cycle & putting good bureaucrats at MSD, Oranga Tamariki & the police & Corrections out of jobs. Much better to saving money by letting them grow up as self destructive youths out for a good time.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:02am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Ooh, I know: they were no doubt ‘underfunded’!! That’s the Red Radio mantra whenever some crime or stupidity accident happens: prevention/policing/social welfare/counselling all underfunded.
    
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    June 1, 2018 12:16pm
- Random T Person
  
  I was a really, really naughty kid from a broken home complete with violent alcoholics etc and not once did I steal a vehicle…also boring.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:44am
  - KevOB
    
    You don’t have to learn to drive to steal a vehicle. Another way to experience for some youth. Police have to practice too.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:17am
    - hullkiwi
      
      There was me thinking you needed NCEA1 to get a drivers licence first. Someone better tell Chippy.
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:04am
- jcuk
  
  I know I was and when I grew up 0ne speeding ticket in 1964 and total five parking tickets total.
  Hard to get a speeding ticket with a pushbike 🙂
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:25am
Keeping Stock

Labour’s candidate in Northcote shows his true colours; looks like he has an advanced case of Entitleitis:

Security has been called to remove a Labour by-election candidate from an Auckland mall, in an altercation that led the mall to ban all further campaigning.

Labour got into a spat with Glenfield Mall in Northcote after being denied permission to campaign inside the shopping establishment.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/security-called-into-northcote-by-election-mall-confrontation.html

Interesting that Halbert was accompanied by former Northcote MP Ann Hartley, grandmother of Metiria Turei’s child. Whatever happened Ms Turei, another sufferer of Entitleitis?
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June 1, 2018 8:11am
- tf78
  
  I notice that so far this news is only on Newshub – not Herald or Stuff! Why I wonder.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:15am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Maybe the others are checking facts? Mitchel Alexander needs a map – Glenfield Mall is not in Northcote for a start
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:31am
    - hullkiwi
      
      True, but I believe that part of Glenfield is in the electorate. Some of the MAP electorates bare no resemblance to the names given e.g. East Cost Bays has never included the Bays South of Sunrise Ave, but goes West & includes all of Albany. No true relationship of the communities within the electorates.
      
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      June 1, 2018 9:13am
  - doggone7
    
    Maybe they’re not doing beat-ups today.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:38am
- VicParking
  
  Red Radio this morning undertook a free Electorial Advertising for the Laboure Candidate. It was a disgrace. Three Quotes from the Labour Candidate plus one from the Prime Minister (AKA Tooth Fairy) to one short one by the National Candidate.
  The reporters pushed Labour’s polling as “Offical” and ran down Nationals.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:31am
  - cmm
    
    They haven’t got their $38million in the bag yet…
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:51am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  National Party members came to have lunch the other day at Glenfield Mall, I had a little chat with Bridges, quiet well behaved bunch. When Labour arrived they were loud and walked around like they owned the place – show ponies
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:35am
- Longknives
  
  Glenfield Mall probably just doesn’t want the trouble.
  Labour supporters tend to be Anti-Capitalism ‘Activist’ types- pretty vocal and feral (If they were anything like the mob that hurled abuse at me as I drove through Grey Lynn shops last Election)
  I wouldn’t want them anywhere near my business either..
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:49am
  - RF
    
    I prefer to call Labour supporters, activists.
    
    They are loud, of low intelligence and in your face when campaigning.
    
    These pricks are the type who deface election hordings and believe it’s their right to do so.
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:35am
secondcumming

From my wife’s twitter feed. The idea was to poison the ice-cream and give it to school kids. Is this the sort of filth we would want in our country?

I wonder if *Treason* still carries the death penalty…

https://twitter.com/tracialowry/status/1002174887732170752
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June 1, 2018 8:14am
- cha
  
  Yeah, terrible.
  
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  “They won’t refuse, they’re not going to refuse me — believe me.”
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-reiterates-desire-to-murder-terrorists-families-a6912496.html
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:25pm
EAD_TWO

I see that in the UK, Muslim representatives are now calling out for the Tories to investigate ingrained ‘Islamophobia’ in their party, just as Jewish representatives did with Labour.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/islamophobia-tory-party-uk-conservatives-muslims-inquiry-a8376516.html

With such hysteria being drummed up, we can only expect more cases like those of Jeremy Bedford Turner and Tommy Robinson.

What the real question should be is where is the hysterical MSM, loaded buzz words. and hysteria and the investigations against both parties blatant anti English o phobia?

Stop, pause, think and reflect on this state of affairs.
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June 1, 2018 8:14am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  EAD TWO, Jeremy Bedford Turner’s strident ant Jew rants musty be music to your ears.
  
  Tommy Robinson is a hopeless alt right snowflake fake!
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:04am
  - starboard
    
    And one more makes 30..bye bye shariaboy
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:16pm
- mandk
  
  A phobia is an irrational fear.
  So, given that it is perfectly rational to fear Islam, is it actually possible to be Islamophobic?
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:25am
- kowtow
  
  The problem in the UK is they don’t have any islamorealism.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:12am
- GoVege
  
  I wonder what CREATES “Islamophobia”?
  Clues: plots to murder 4 year old heirs to the throne perhaps?
  Crazed Islamic guys slaughtering innocent tourists in broad daylight?
  Is there such a thing as “Christianophobia”?
  Many Muslims seem to suffer from this condition for no apparent reason. …
  
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  June 1, 2018 7:59pm
JIV

Is it wishful thinking or is Global Warming starting to lose its significance in the world? I realise that our current government has torpedoed oil and gas and is about to do the same to our cow herds, but New Zealand is too insignificant for the rest of the world to care.
Having President Trump stop the narrative started by Gore and doubled down on by Obama, seems to have restricted the “We’re All Doomed” stories in the press and subsequently the general public are now worried about different end of the world scenarios. Namely, robots taking our jobs, poverty and twitter fights.

I always thought there would be a big moment when the whole scam would be exposed and the main protagonists exposed for the snake oil salesmen they are. Now I think it might just disappear into the past while scientists try to find a new way to get grants. At this stage it looks like it might be asteroid avoidance
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June 1, 2018 8:15am
- MickMac
  
  JIV
  
  I hope you aren’t correct.
  There are a lot of people who need to be held to account for wasting our very limited money.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:19am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Come on….
    With this govt.
    so long as we have paper and a printing press, we have MONEY.
    Why do you think they want to plant all them trees?
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:34am
- KevOB
  
  There is increasing reporting too on the failure of the IPCC model predictions and the cessation of apparent warming for over 20 years. The sunspots have disappeared and some scientists are predicting a prolonged cooling cycle has begun or is about to.
  The sea level rises have been shown to be local land adjustments. So more caution would be wiser than making rash policy decisions.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:22am
Poppa

Hey Phil, how many houses have you built since you have been housing minister?

Well none yet but we are ramping up and…….

Just a small point Phil but you are almost 6000 behind
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June 1, 2018 8:21am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Come on, give phil a break..
  He build 10 times as many houses this month, than he did 6 months ago….
  OH WAIT
  10 x zero is zero, beg your pardon, carry on.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:33am
  - GazzaW
    
    Hang on a second. Phil said last week that eighteen houses might be finished in August.
    
    Oh isn’t it lovely to see Twyford copping it after nine years of dishing it out? Not so easy in Government is it Phil when you have to back up your words with results.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:34pm
- Colinxy
  
  Leaked!
  
  Just revealed now are Twitford’s secret plans to build all those houses:
  
  https://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Cardboard-House
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:11am
  - GoVege
    
    Been in GI today.
    Lotsa beautiful new statehouses.
    Should do what a few people I used to know did yonks ago.
    Sell the house and blow the money on world travel.
    Then come back and apply for a statehouse. 🙂
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:03pm
Linda

It going to university worth it?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/30/john-stossel-what-everyones-afraid-to-say-about-college-and-jobs.html
It’s different in NZ, right?
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June 1, 2018 8:22am
- cmm
  
  People are voting with their feet. There are something like 900 less students this year than last year because they are realising it is better to be employed than waste your time doing a basket weaving degree.
  
  University is worth it for engineers, doctors etc. It is even worth it for serious history buffs who intend to go on to higher studies. But it is not worth it for people who just go to uni for a BPartying degree.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:55am
- stephieboy
  
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  Linda , who in the hell is John Stossel? Do we need more in the Labour workforce to work in $2.00 shops?
  
  LOL
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:08am
  - Linda
    
    I don’t have a degree but I am a serial entrepreneur and have created many well paid jobs over my life. Not everyone needs a degree to succeed.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:25am
  - softail 1450
    
    septicboy, oh fuck septic is L O L again ,we are for an intellectual beating today FFS, wont be long and the “alt right” will be bought into use .
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:28am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    John Stossel…..smarter than you.
    but
    then again
    I have weatherboards on my house, smarter than you.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:30am
    - Harkman
      
      I’m not sure the universe can quantify, in some sort of measurement, the intelligence gap between Stossel and our troll. ?
      
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      June 1, 2018 11:42am
  - Linda
    
    And Stossel is a reformed liberal now free market champion. Ex journalist.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:31am
    - jcuk
      
      Nothing new about what he is saying …I read about how useless having a degree was in creating income some years ago 🙂
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:37am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        At university a friend had a saying.
        ‘A’ students will report to ‘B’ students and both will work for the ‘C’ students.
        I think he was close.
        
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        June 1, 2018 10:41am
- Harkman
  
  I caught a clip of Ben Shapiro on YouTube about a week back where he was arguing with someone and he said that the left wants you to spend longer and longer at University because it increases the probability that you will become indoctrinated. In NZ this is so true, in 1960 the smart people did school cert, central government spending was 24% of gdp and the economy could grow 3-5% pa and unemployment was 0%, in 2012 most kids went to university central government spending was above 30% and 2% growth was an effort. Yet the left continues to waste away money. This is why the left wants compulsory Maori in schools, to find jobs for Maori grads.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:21am
Left Right and Centre

Front page Stuff teen who died in crash was a good kid who made a bad choice.

18 year old man drinks at a party, then drifts car showing off, crashes into fence, dies in hospital.

And we get treated to the thoughts of those close to them explaining away any wrongdoing.

“People, be sensitive to this whānau, man. My boy’s passing is still too real, and to read some of your fellas’ comments is mamae (sore).

“These kids were mischief … they stole a car … they obviously made a stupid, silly choice, but we were all a teenager at one point.

“He was actually quite a responsible, good driver, I thought,” Hiroki said of their lessons.

He sped down the street, put the car into a slide and flashed a gang sign out the window before the car slammed into a concrete fence, the couple said.

Quote two they comment on another story – yeah, most teens steal cars when they’re young – sure. Can’t expect teens to know any better – we’ve all been young and silly – sheesh.

Here was a likely damaged and dysfunctional young man with a tough upbringing. Thankfully in this instance, he killed himself and no-one else.

That’s more than just a bad choice. Yeah – they think we can all relate to a similar experience when teens. Sure – we all used to drink and then drift out cars in the street at 18 making gang signs.
Could’ve happened to anyone.
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June 1, 2018 8:23am
- MickMac
  
  LR&C
  clap clap.
  good points.
  On the one hand Darwin Awards, on the other “Frontal Lobe Theory”
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:39am
  - jcuk
    
    Yes LR%C good points except I remember the fun I had on the last night of doing my National Service and I am sure it was only the dislike for my company commander in the unit saved me from being hauled off to the glssshouse for an extended period 🙂
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:44am
- Rich Prick
  
  If the whānau had any dignity they wouldn’t be mouthing off in the media. Why do they always do that? There’s no need to explain idiocy, we know it when we see it.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:00am
  - sooty
    
    30 seconds of fame.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:52pm
- stephieboy
  
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  LeftandRight , when will your turn be next )( or family member ) when someone DIC crosses the median line and piles into your car?
  
  (The sounds of one hand clapping)
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:10am
  - srylands
    
    WTF?
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:31am
  - pentwig
    
    another intelligent gem from sillyboy
    
    LOL
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:58am
    - Longknives
      
      Anyone speak Stephiestani?
      I haven’t got a clue what he is babbling today…
      
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      June 1, 2018 10:52am
      - Harkman
        
        I think we just found patient zero of the mycoplasma bovis outbreak.
        
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        June 1, 2018 11:46am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        so why have cows got this pox and not goats then?
        
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        June 1, 2018 2:00pm
  - starboard
    
    And one more makes 31..bye bye shariaboy.
    ( that one handed clapping is really shariaboy batting himself)
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:19pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Spare a thought and feeling for the owner of the stolen car.
  Because I can’t bring my self to feel sorry for a MAN, who paid the ultimate price for illegal and stupid behaviour.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:27am
- softail 1450
  
  LR&C,,, Didndunuffin.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:38am
- kowtow
  
  Don’t they waych those ads on tv ?
  
  You know , the ones the gubmint spends so much of our money on to “educate” these morons .
  
  No of course they don’t , but it won’t stop the gubmint blowing our money .
  
  I wonder who’s stupider?
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:18am
- Fletch
  
  It’s funny how every child dies is mentioned on TV as being a “good kid” who was just so loving etc etc. Never any of the bad ones die.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:35am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Billy Joel???
    “Only the good die young”
    Ain’t education great!!!!
    They live their whole lives around the musings of a rich musician.
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:44am
  - GoVege
    
    Gee whiz Fletch….I thought you were “pro-life”?
    Don’t Maori kids count?
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:08pm
softail 1450

K S, i got into a yelling match with these grubby oiks when i asked one of them if shanan halbert was the person that lied on his facebook page about having a university degree he didnt actually have.
this was outside the glenfield mall so they must be hanging around that area like vampires.
they all look the same ,older females with red, blue ,and yellow hair ,young females all fat and ugly with equally weird hair coloring ,no men, young or old.
im not exaggerating that is how they look,i suspect they were all rampant feminists and lesbians and of course being a labour party candidate halbert is a gay feminist.
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June 1, 2018 8:28am
- doggone7
  
  Can we take it from that you won’t be voting for Halbert?
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:42am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Wish I was there at the time softail, to give them their pedigree if you know what I mean
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:45am
lifesgood

I heard Twyford on Nat radio this morning. He was almost hysterical in his rush to blame the last govt for the meth tainting problem. He almost got to screeching point and was accusing Paula Bennett of all sorts. He really sounds as if he’s out of control, losing the plot and rattled. Good job! He can blame Nat all he likes, but it wasn’t their fault. HNZ were working on bad advice. Imagine if they had done nothing and then it was proved people were dying from method contamination.
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June 1, 2018 8:32am
- RW Capitalist
  
  When someone, in a public place, screams and yells and claims hurt…..where do you look?
  Not at the perceived hurt, but at the person making all the fuss.
  So in Phillis’ attempt to blame someone else, he has drawn attention to HIMSELF. That may be fine in the Kindergarten playground, but out here in adult land we ask….What is he screaming about? Once the noise has died down we ADULTS actually look at the situation and calmly decide what the truth is and whether any action is required.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:21am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Twitfort was out of control, claiming he didn’t know what HNZ was basing their decisions on. The studies HNZ used to base the max. P level on must be perfectly clear and should surely be available to the current Housing minister! So now HNZ will be applying different standards, based on new studies. This happens. It’s called *science*!
  
  And whatever the P values they decide are ‘safe’: using an illegal substance in a state house should always get people kicked out, not apologized to and compensated.
  
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  June 1, 2018 12:39pm
- Piniwi
  
  @lifesgood there is a change in the attack strategy of the COL as they move from blaming National to targeting individuals and think they are a winner by starting with Paula Bennett. While the COL might be content for Ministers to dictate to their respective Ministries and SOE’s that is not how it works. Sorry worked is more accurate. Procedural decisions like funding requests are initiated by the bureaucrats and addressed to the Minister not the other way around. So like the Middlemore failure they tried the P issue may yet come back to bite the COL on the buttocks.
  “Lets wait until we hear what the inquiry reports back with” was the calm suggestion from Judith Collins in response to Silly Willies shouting and name calling on the AM show.
  
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  June 1, 2018 2:44pm
Muttonbird

Babywatch.

Will today be the day?
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June 1, 2018 8:33am
- lifesgood
  
  If that’s all you,be got to think about all I can say is you poor, lonely, ba****d.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:37am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  And what will the globe stopping event score on the ‘most popular’ stuff stories ? Could it score the fabled ten out of ten ?
  
  When the time arrives – it will literally be breaking news – hardy hahaha
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:53am
  - hullkiwi
    
    On that basis I hope that when it happens it is 4.57am in the morning, so the papers will have to wait 24 hours before they can print fish & chip wrapper with gushing fairy photos. Plus a night of hard Labour is nothing less than toothy deserves for what she will put us all through.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:38am
    - softail 1450
      
      hullkiwi ,no hard labour,,, C section for sure.
      
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      June 1, 2018 9:46am
      - hullkiwi
        
        What to posh (or soft) to push?
        
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        June 1, 2018 12:21pm
- VicParking
  
  I hear Mt Albert has run out of Almonds. Seems a guy in Fishing gear has brought the lot.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:07am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Who will milk it more – the baby or msm / social media ?
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:16am
- JibberJabber
  
  How long did ur hatching take?
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:33am
- alex Masterley
  
  I have a whole pile of barff bags at the ready.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:20am
- MrTips
  
  I’m sure you’ll do your usual song routine for the birth MB? https://youtu.be/gma5IUNMTn0
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:36am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  June 14th – Donald Trump’s Birthday!!!!!!
  Let’s try to avoid this – hahahaha!!!!
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:35pm
VicParking

Phil Twyford (AKA Phil of shit) came out hitting this morning over the testing of State Houses. He apologised to State house tenants for not allowing them to smoke P in their houses. It seems that it is now the COL’s policy that state house tenants are free to Smoke P. Next they will they subsidise the practice by creating a new allowance.
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June 1, 2018 8:38am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  If they can afford P what are they doing in state houses?
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:36am
  - softail 1450
    
    U N,, cooking it there.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:48am
- Fletch
  
  He also said something about possibly reimbursing tenants.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:36am
krazykiwi

Business should be more optimistic about the Coalition Government

In fact, the new Government seems to be going out of its way to reassure business on issues, big and small.

What planet is this academic on?

However, as the Government reaches something of a milestone establishing its 100th policy committee, the time has come for all of us, business sector included, to acknowledge that a major change may be taking place in New Zealand government.

The 100th policy committee isn’t a sign of useful consultation, but rather ineptitude. The author is right though, a ‘major change’ is happening: A wrecking ball is being applied to our economy.
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June 1, 2018 8:45am
- Harkman
  
  These policy committees are an utter corruption in full view, in plain sunlight. Jobs for Labour party hangers-on yet nobody in the media is saying anything about it, not one peep.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:08am
- RW Capitalist
  
  In order for there to be change, there must be ACTION.
  In life as in physics (Newtons laws of motion)
  Talking isn’t action and it most certainly isn’t a result.
  Usain Bolt did not win the 100m by
  Pulling on his shorts
  Standing at the start line
  He actually had to run the race ad finish in front of the others
  This Govt. is still pulling on their shorts, and if I’m not mistaken, they have them on back to front and inside out.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:14am
  - tf78
    
    RW Capitalist
    They’re tripping over because they are still around their ankles as they haven’t figured out how to pull them up.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:50am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Misspelled millstone.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:38am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “In fact, the new Government seems to be going out of its way to reassure business on issues, big and small.”
  A thought or 2.
  1. Talk is cheap, hollow reassurances are a discount on that.
  2. No mention of ACTION then?
  3. PSST PSST Labour….businesses look past the PERCEPTION you are trying to create, they/we look at the reality of the bottom line.
  a. will this create more customers?…..NO
  b. will this improve after tax profit…..NO
  c. will this reduce time input (compliance)…NO
  d. will this reduce costs…..NO
  Funny how you only need 3 strikes in baseball, but you already have 4.
  Still wondering why business confidence is sliding?
  Some advice for you in the CoL
  The best way to be seen to be doing a good job!
  ACTUALLY do a good job!!!
  ie
  Learn what works
  Practice what works
  Make fast decisions with as much info. as you can muster (key is FAST)
  Change what doesn’t work, just as fast
  Don’t waist time changing what is working, just because YOU may not like it.
  You’d know this if ANY of you have EVER owned a business.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:05am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Action they are and will be taking: more tax.
    
    So: will it increase inflation – YES.
    
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    June 1, 2018 12:44pm
- hullkiwi
  
  As you say, what planet is she on? All these enquiries/reviews/consultations etc are not a sign of a government in control, but rather a government that unsure of itself in every aspect. Yet these clowns have made key decisions that will impact the economy in an adverse manner for decades to come.
  
  Is it any wonder business is losing confidence in the COL? The latest Quarterly ANZ business survey noted a decline in business confidence. This has resulted in the bank reducing their growth forecast for this year to 2% (from 3%). Not a bad effort in benign economic conditions.
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:45pm
VicParking

It seems that Red Radio under instructions from their Labour masters are flooding government departments with OIA’s that date back to last year when National was the Government. They are desperate to final scandals that will take the heat off the fiasco’s being generated by the Labour Ministers, caused I think by the COL using their wrong brain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5790591/There-second-BRAIN-located-bowel.html
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June 1, 2018 8:48am
- Philview
  
  The 8 am news on RNZ began with “National are to blame for this” “It is all the fault of the National Government”. Of course a carefully prepared news report with Phil Twyford. The media are joining in the condemnation. However, I haven’t seen any actual facts hitting the media yet. How many people were kicked out, what was the level of contamination in their properties?
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:00am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Did the tenants contaminate the properties themselves?
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:09am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Indeed! That’s the main question, whatever the P levels HNZ thinks are ‘safe’ now.
      
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      June 1, 2018 12:47pm
  - Harkman
    
    Look National had the chance to close down red radio and didn’t, they were too nice. Next time they need to grow a pair, take a deep breath and shut the f-ing thing down.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:25am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      NO
      They are
      1. losing listeners
      2. the best advertising National can have, showing how much of an echo chamber for labour they are.
      Things called facts are coming out else where, that contradict their “narrative” soon to impact (negatively) peoples wallets.
      They will soon see, that what’s in their bank accounts contradicts what “red radio” is saying. Then the louder red radio shouts, the more people will believe the opposite.
      
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      June 1, 2018 9:48am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        ‘1. losing listeners’
        
        They don’t give a toss. They have endless FU NZ money: your taxes and more taxes.
        
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        June 1, 2018 12:48pm
- stephieboy
  
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  “If this government wanted to compensate for every mistake the former government made, we’d go broke tomorrow.”
  
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/358688/meth-compensa
  tion-i-m-not-ruling-it-out-i-m-not-ruling-it-in
  
  Some food for thought, Vic Parking?
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:01am
  - VicParking
    
    Morning Stephie. Maybe they will get given a discount on their next three P purchases. Were they “kicked out” for smoking P! If they were removed from the house that was contaminated they would be given another if HNZ could not prove it was them that caused the contamination. Shouldn’t you be at prayer?
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:13am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Dippy, I heard it to. Clearly a crafted media bash from Twitford.
    
    What Twitford didn’t say:
    1. That smoking or manufacturing P is illegal & people are not entitled to compensation when they have committed a crime;
    2. The tenants would have been in breach of their tenancy agreements.
    
    Therefore they are not entitled to compensation.
    
    If you feel they are, then you and Twitford can pay for it out of your own pockets. If you are not prepared to, then go & stick your head in a P house.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:51am
    - GoVege
      
      I know an idiot who managed to burn down his statehouse and had to be rehoused (with 6 of his 10 children) while they rebuilt it.
      Can’t they just ban smoking of all cigarettes inside statehouse?
      
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      June 1, 2018 11:21am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        I’d imagine it’s on the ‘tenancy agreement’ but some tenants don’t care.
        
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        June 1, 2018 1:18pm
      - GoVege
        
        No point in being on the tenancy agreement really is there if they don’t make any attempt to enforce it.
        
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        June 1, 2018 2:27pm
- softail 1450
  
  VicParking, ” labour ministers using wrong brain”
  it gives me some comfort to know that somebody has found septicboys missing brain,and is making use of it.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:56am
Salacious Crumb

So Stephieboy; is this another of the diversity dividends you were referring to recently?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12062537

Given your admiration of the Royal Family how do you reconcile this?
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June 1, 2018 8:51am
- stephieboy
  
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  Salacious Crumb, I take it that the plot on Prince Geroge gets the thumbs up from the rest of UK’s Muslim and multicultural community?
  
  Clown!
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:57am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Is Ralph familiar with the Pew research detailing the number of muslims living in the UK that would prefer to live under Sharia Law?
    
    As Ralph has made it clear in earlier posts, on this forum, that he is 100% against the imposition of Sharia Law in the West, one can deduce that he is simply an old, lonely, fabian-socialist/ chronic masturbating mock Christian, that fills his end days trolling kiwiblog, interspersed with the odd reading at St Albans.
    
    Way to end up.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:09am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Rodney Randell , and you are an alt right cabbage head.
      
      A simple fix for you.
      
      Done and dusted.
      
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      June 1, 2018 9:14am
      - Rodney Randall
        
        Haha.
        
        Have a lovely day Ralph.
        
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        June 1, 2018 9:23am
      - RalphT
        
        Why, thank you, Rodney.
        
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        June 1, 2018 9:26am
      - pentwig
        
        beautifully crafted interaction sillyboy
        your baboon brain is in overdrive this morning
        keep up the comedy
        
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        June 1, 2018 10:11am
- Inandout
  
  This can only (I hope) awaken the Poms to the horrible cult existing in their midst. The sooner all mosques are closed the better, as they are merely propaganda sources for Islamic sleepers. I suspect after this news the UK establishment will finally get off their arses, because they are next on the list.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:42am
- GoVege
  
  How low can you sink to deliberately target a 4 year old?
  And this creep was a mosque TEACHER!
  How many young minds has he poisoned?
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:18am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    My sentiments exactly GoVege but according to Stephieboy and his ilk; you and I are the problem for pointing this out.
    Victims are never a consideration to these mysognistic hand wringers.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:41pm
    - GoVege
      
      And just saw that this evil throwback to the dark ages was teaching in the birthplace of my grandmother!
      I took my first ever trip to the UK last year and would love to have visited. …but once I saw a pic of two obese, inbred-looking women in black burqas strolling down the main street, it curbed my enthusiasm somewhat.
      This latest revelation has completely put the kibosh on any lingering desire to go.
      
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      June 1, 2018 5:13pm
Left Right and Centre

This Wellington idiot wants to use a women’s only gym
Idiot has male genitals (and body) but got birth certificate changed to ‘female’.

Bloody cross-dressers – you is not a woman fool.
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June 1, 2018 9:06am
- softail 1450
  
  LR&C,,, “she doesn’t feel safe in a male gym”,
  FFS,a fifty pound dumbell would have a better chance of being sexually harassed than that alien.
  This is what transgender folk yearn for ,publicity their name in the press, profile posing photos and “hey don’t i look better than most real females.”
  They make it difficult for all other “gender confused” people of which NZ seems to have a large number .
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:22am
  - Longknives
    
    If I say I ‘identify’ as a Woman can I pop along to the all Woman’s Gym up on Ponsonby Road?
    
    *I’ve seen on Pornhub what happens in those places…
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:56am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Sorry you have to stand in line behind Indian Jones, LK.
      
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      June 1, 2018 5:28pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Jeepers, Sylvester Stallone makes for a more convicing woman. It will take a shitload of hormones to work the man out of that unit.
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:44am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    .22 behind the ear will do the trick . . . .
    
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    June 1, 2018 2:11pm
EAD_TWO

Great tweet from Mark Collet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkACollett/status/1000771129705943042

“All those who are now running around shouting ‘free Tommy’ but said nothing when 89 year old Ursula Haverbeck was sent to prison for speech crimes need to take a long hard look at themselves. “
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  EAD TWO, at least Ursula Haverbeck wasn’t guillotined by the Nazis like Hans and Sophie Scholl and others of the White Rose movement in WW2,
  
  https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-white-rose-movement/
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:20am
igm

Will Crockery take Gayboy and her newborn bundle of illegitimacy to reside in one of the homes her mate Gluckman has now declared fit to live in?
I await an answer with trepidation.
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June 1, 2018 9:17am
- stephieboy
  
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  igm , wakey, wakey!
  
  We live in the 21st century and not the 19th and before.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:22am
  - Harkman
    
    Yes, it is the 21st century not the 6th century. The unreasonable commands from then shouldn’t supercede rational debate.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:29am
  - Inandout
    
    Ironic that the ancient Koran is set in concrete and yet you follow that crap to the letter. Best you stay mute stephie.
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:35am
  - cmm
    
    Perfectly right stephie.
    
    In the 21st century we should all be embracing Sharia Law.
    
    Perhaps they should be stoned to death.
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:58am
Manolo

The arrogant EU sometimes speaks the truth:
https://www.corriere.it/esteri/18_maggio_31/juncker-gli-italiani-lavorino-piu-siano-meno-corrotti-e0a35fd8-6503-11e8-95f7-d0bed95533ca.shtml

“Italians should work more and be less corrupt”, says pisshead Juncker, President of the European Commision!
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Brave Israel defends itself from those dastardly human rights protestors.

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/05/31/gaza-freedom-flotilla/
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June 1, 2018 9:46am
- mandk
  
  Israel is, indeed, brave.
  
  Over the past 70 years Israel has had to fight three wars against confederated enemies, all of whom wanted to destroy the country.
  
  Even today, Israel faces an array of enemies (including Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and Fatah – aided and abetted by Iran, Syria, Russia, Turkey and several Gulf states) that want to wipe the country off the map and kill all Jews.
  
  The truth is that, of all the countries mentioned, only Israel has proper respect for human rights. Israel even provides medical care for people who would gladly kill their carers.
  
  You can tell how bad things are for Israel when even a progressive like Trudeau declares openly that Israel has the right to defend its borders.
  
  Shalom Eretz Israel!
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:12am
  - sooty
    
    Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:35am
    - 3-coil
      
      Sooty – you been ridin’ on the sin wagon? ?
      
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      June 1, 2018 1:33pm
      - sooty
        
        Yep, that’s were all the fun is.
        
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        June 1, 2018 2:00pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Israel is, indeed, brave.
    
    Indeed. Especially courageous is the way they have shot and gassed more than 12,000 unarmed protestors over the last six weeks.
    
    No wonder the highly moral Trump regime, led by the bravest, brightest President in history, supports them so avidly.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:59pm
    - mandk
      
      Unarmed?
      
      You must be willfully blind not to have seen the weaponry the would-be killers were carrying. Palestinian TV carried an interview shortly after the last major attempt to storm the border in which the interviewee said that at least 50 of the 60 people killed were Hamas fighters. You know, people like this: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=hamas+fighters&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjPtI6StLHbAhWJa7wKHUeNDYYQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=1094
      
      Protestors walk up and down, singing songs like “We shall overcome”. The Hamas people trying to storm the border were braying for Jewish blood.
      
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      June 1, 2018 2:25pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Fool, you know nothing.
        
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        June 1, 2018 5:24pm
Inandout

Cindy bub has visited Northland with a huge entourage of Ministers, and a $42 million cheque. I suspect this money will come from releasing prisoners into the wider community, and as an aside, insurance companies are bracing for a spate of burglaries.
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June 1, 2018 10:04am
- igm
  
  These dirty crim-loving scum masquerading as MPs deserve some real good old fashioned justice. Even then, they possibly would not wake up.
  
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  June 1, 2018 2:20pm
UpandComer

I said no long posts, but general debate is pretty torpid today. So enjoy a tome, take it home.

It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen – 1984

Ireland passes it’s abortion referendum:
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/its-a-big-yes-stunning-victory-officially-confirmed-as-664pc-vote-to-reform-irelands-restrictive-abortion-laws-36949114.html

And then, like absolute clockwork as 2 proceeds from 1:
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/we-are-not-having-enough-babies-to-maintain-current-population-36963865.html
Ireland isn’t having enough babies to maintain it’s population. Well, I suppose the only choice is mass immigration.

Once you understand the patterns – it’s almost too easy to predict.

They have an abortion referendum, it supposedly passes with overwhelming majority – then within days the stories start about under-population, only remediable by mass immigration of the third world, and the destruction of every last remaining figment of the Irish socio-psyche.

Here’s something interesting:

https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2018/05/30/another-big-rig-in-ireland/

The final result was 22 points above the final pre-vote poll.

Some polls had the anti-abortion vote at 49%.

Some towns were 100% anti-abortion – yet we are informed abortion was the marjority vote for every single constituency.

Rallies for life were up to 100k strong. The rallies of the left were barely scratching a few thousand – and mostly comprised of foreign ferals shipped in.

Ireland has no alternative media – it is the preferred model for the EU Commission for the EU as a whole.

The proponents of reform all have strong relationships with the same British intelligence who produced the execrably stupid Michael Steele pissgate dossier.

600,000 extra voting cards were issued in the 2007 Irish general election, 488,000 in the 2016 election – enough to swing both by massive margins. Most belong to no one alive.

Ireland has no voter ID laws.

Irish Catholics and conservatives like most all over the world don’t understand that their opponents are simply the purely corrupt.

In 2011 the pro abortion Michael Higgins won a landslide in the Irish presidential election thought he trailed by 19 points the day before the fucking vote. Statistically, it is impossible.

The government and it’s Hindoo leader claimed hundreds of thousands of Irish expatriates returned to Ireland for the vote. No trace of such an infusion can be found from viewing throughfare at airports.

Now Ireland’s conception of itself is irreparably changed.

There is a great passage from Lampadusa’s ‘The Leopard’ one of my favourite books which describes what the crypto-pedo elites are doing in Ireland, and the EU proper:

I know I said no long posts. But frankly, general debate today is garbage, so have some incredible insight from an author who saw Sicily become part of the Italian state.

“The cool air had dispersed Don Ciccio’s somnolence and the massive grandeur of the Prince dispelled his fears; now all that remained afloat on the surface of Don Ciccio’s conscience was resentment, useless of course but not ignoble. He stood there, spoke in dialect, and gesticulated, a pathetic puppet who in some absurd way was right.

“I, Excellency, voted ‘no.’ ‘No,’ a hundred times ‘no.’ I know what you told me: necessity, unity, expediency. You may be right; I know nothing of politics. Such things I leave to others. But Ciccio Tumeo is honest, poor though he may be, with his trousers in holes” (and he slapped the carefully mended patches in his shooting breeches), “and I don’t forget favors done me! Those swine in the Town Hall just swallowed up my opinion, chewed it, and then spat it out transformed as they wanted. I said black and they made me say white! The one time when I could say what I thought, that bloodsucker Sedara went and annulled it, behaved as if I never existed, as if I never meant a thing! I, Francesco Tumeo La Manna, son of Leonardo, organist of the Mother Church at Donnafugata, a better man than he is! To think I’d even dedicated to him a mazurka I composed at the birth of that . . .” (he bit his thumb to rein himself in), “that mincing daughter of his! ”

At this point calm descended on Don Fabrizio, who had finally solved the enigma; now he knew who had been killed at Donnafugata, at a hundred other places, in the course of that night of dirty wind: a new-born babe: good faith; just the very child who should have been cared for most, whose strengthening would have justified all the silly vandalisms. Don Ciccio’s negative vote, fifty similar votes at Donnafugata, a hundred thousand “nos” in the whole Kingdom, would have had no effect on the result, would in fact have made it, if anything, more significant; and this maiming of souls would have been avoided.

Six months before they used to hear a rough despotic voice saying, “Do what I say or you’ll catch it!” Now there was an impression already of such a threat being replaced by the soapy tones of a moneylender: “But you signed it yourself, didn’t you? Can’t you see? It’s quite clear. You must do as we say, for here are the I.O.U.s; your will is identical with mine.”

Don Fabrizio had always liked Don Ciccio, partly because of the compassion inspired in him by all who from youth had thought of themselves as dedicated to the arts, and in old age, realizing they had no talent, still carried on the same activity at lower levels, pocketing withered dreams; and he was also touched by the dignity of his poverty. But now he also felt a kind of admiration for him, and deep down at the very bottom of his proud conscience a voice was asking if Don Ciccio had not perhaps behaved more nobly than the Prince of Salina. And the Sedaras, all the various Sedaras, from the petty one who violated figures at Donnafugata to the major ones at Palermo and Turin, had they not committed a crime by choking such consciences?

Don Fabrizio could not know it then, but a great deal of the slackness and acquiescence for which the people of the South were to be criticised during the next decades was due to the stupid annulment of the first expression of liberty ever offered them.

So Juncker and his quotes about the ‘Terrano’ is simply following a long tradition from the birth of the Italian state of the democratic sovereignty of the Italians being abused.

The EU crypto-pedo technocracy elites are in the business of killing good faith. And what a fine job they have done and are doing. When it dies, and they hang from lamp posts, they will reflect.

In perhaps reverse irony, In Nortern Ireland Catholics and the Protestants of Belfast are united in their opposition to the degeneracy in the Republic. That unification of course, I’m sure will be reflected in yet another ‘landslide victory’ of impossible proportions for more of the same ‘social progressiveness’ the same people spread everywhere they choose to grace with their presence.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/05/activists-are-using-robots-to-send-abortion-pills-to-northern-ireland/

Robots delivering abortion pills to homes in Belfast, you know, just on the off-chance legal murder can ensue and the perpetrator is a ‘robot’.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/women-abortion-pills-northern-ireland-protest-55560783

Women in Belfast, part of a ‘freedom’ group based on Rosa Luxembourg, all in early term pregnancy, swallowed abortion pills live on camera, dressed as ‘handmaids’ with reference to the Handmaid’s tale.

Anyway, I’m sure it’s just bitterness and the vote was completely valid. After all – ‘don’t knows’ in all polls from the beginning of time favour status quo – which in this case was ‘no’, so it’s only natural they voted ‘yes’.
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June 1, 2018 10:12am
- UpandComer
  
  Isn’t it amazing how the new architects of the human spirit, the fetishists and sado-masochists of ‘diversity’ erect humans who all look and think the same – ugly, stunted, spiritually malformed, consuming the psychic and physical landscape – the new school of Brutalist architecture of the human mind and body. And now they’ve taken my Ireland.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:24am
- Keeping Stock
  
  TL/DR
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:38am
  - kowtow
    
    “TL/DR’
    
    Is that a bit like the old joke about the WW2 sub capt who was criticised by hq’s for overlong over detailed reports everytime he encountered and sank a jap sub ……he was told to keep them shorter……
    
    So next time he sent a report it was as follows:
    
    “Sighted sub , sank same”.
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:48am
  - UpandComer
    
    I’m sorry man.
    
    Try Twitter.
    
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    June 1, 2018 10:55am
- Philview
  
  Probably mentioned on here but Bob McCoskrie has set up a petition on the Choose Life website. My main concern is that the Government will open the door to the likes of “Gender Selection” which is a natural consequence of the direction they have signalled.
  
  McCoskrie is concerned by the recent media reporting.
  
  https://www.chooselife.org.nz/recent-news/to-anyone-hoping-for-impartial-coverage-of-the-abortion-debate-these-are-not-promising-signs/
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:46am
  - GoVege
    
    Don’t be silly Phil, they only have gender-selection in 3rd world countries where women have such terrible lives, they want to protect their daughters from what they go through.
    
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    June 1, 2018 2:43pm
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  I wouldn’t worry. The species generally, and the West in particular, are the authors of their own demise, ever incapable of any rational, natural balance in anything. It’s always the same – if a little bit is ‘good’, a whole lot is ‘better’. Unfortunately, it’s untrue. Children will become an increasingly scarce resource. Perhaps we’ll need those robots after all.
  
  “Half the world’s nations have fertility rates below the replacement level of just over two children per woman. Countries across Europe and the Far East are teetering on a demographic cliff, with rates below 1.5. On recent trends, Germany and Italy could see their populations halve within the next 60 years.
  
  For now, the world’s population continues to rise. From today’s 7.4 billion people, we might reach 9 billion or so, mostly because of high fertility in Africa. The UN predicts a continuing upward trend, with population reaching around 11.2 billion in 2100. But this seems unlikely. After hitting the demographic doldrums, no country yet has seen its fertility recover. Many demographers expect a global crash to be under way by 2076.”
  
  For men:
  
  “Sperm counts have plunged by nearly 60 per cent in just 40 years among men living in the West, according to a major review of scientific studies that suggests the modern world is causing serious damage to men’s health. Pesticides, hormone-disrupting chemicals, diet, stress, smoking and obesity have all been “plausibly associated” with the problem, which is associated with a range of other illnesses such as testicular cancer and a generally increased mortality rate.”
  
  “According to scientists at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, sperm counts among men in the west have more than halved in the past 40 years and are currently falling by an average of 1.4% a year.”
  
  “The reality of the problem is also supported by the rise in cases of testicular cancer that has taken place in recent years, he added. This also suggests that problems appear to be occurring as the male foetus develops in the womb. In some way, it is becoming more and more vulnerable to changes in conditions there.”
  
  I have to say, the perennial blaming of ‘smoking’ is a little bizarre. While:
  
  “Writing in the journal Human Reproduction Update, the researchers – from Israel, the US, Denmark, Brazil and Spain – said total sperm count had fallen by 59.3 per cent between 1971 and 2011 in Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand. Sperm concentration fell by 52.4 per cent.”
  
  At the same time:
  
  “Overall, age-standardized smoking prevalence decreased by 42% for women and 25% for men between 1980 and 2012.”
  
  Women are not escaping and/or going to escape either:
  
  “Infertility studies by the Center for Disease Control in 2005 showed that 1 in about 8 women were unable to carry a child to term, a large decline from past surveys – One of the concerning discoveries of the study was the observation that the decline in fertility for women 15-24 of age was very similar to the decline for women aged 25 years and over.
  
  Ages 15-24 are normally very fertile years—thus a decline in the youngest category of fertility that closely matches that decline in older women indicates the existence of a developmental threat that is fundamentally affecting adolescents’ natural development into fertile young women.
  
  Another study noted that the rate of unexplained fertility 20 years ago was 20%. Today, it is 40%, double the rate, reinforcing the case for an unseen yet highly prominent threat to fertility at all ages.”
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:34am
  - GoVege
    
    It’s all that pollution Anne.
    They’ve discovered a link between heavy metals and autism. …now 1 in 55 boys in America.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:14pm
  - KevOB
    
    Thanks for an interesting post.
    
    If the large decline is fertility of our young Maori women is also occurring that is going to deny them their natural occupation as mothers. That looks like potentially another drug problem in the making as they won’t be employable and need something to occupy them.
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:37pm
    - GoVege
      
      Kev: That’s heresy!
      There is not ONE Maori woman in this country who is not a natural born mother!
      And to prove it, they all aim for 10 offspring mimimum. 🙂
      
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      June 1, 2018 2:31pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      It is all interesting – fascinating implications all round.
      
      Nature is already taking a hand in limiting the growth of what is basically a human ‘cancer’ on the planet – and ironically giving them the reasons to do it to themselves.
      
      I wonder what will happen with production/markets of everything, everywhere if the population halves or worse. Perhaps we still won’t need the robots.
      
      Fascinating, too, in terms of biblical prophecy. I’ve always struggled to see why we would want to keep people alive forever – but then if there’s few or no children, I suppose those dependent on consumerism/capitalism would want to do that, somewhat desperately.
      
      I imagine it’s all going to be taking shape by the time all the baby boomers are dead. There’s lots of talk about how fewer children are going to sustain the current aging. I’ve seen very little on how they’re going to sustain themselves with a rampantly decreasing population.
      
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      June 1, 2018 3:32pm
      - UpandComer
        
        https://theconversation.com/theres-a-strong-chance-that-one-third-of-all-people-will-be-african-by-2100-84576
        
        It’s only the West.
        
        Africa is going to grow to 6billion people. Apparently.
        
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        June 1, 2018 4:28pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        Africa is different to everyone else – as opposed to the ‘West’. It’s had its own ‘baby boom’. But then it also has a huge focus from NGOs to promote abortion etc. and ‘modernising’ it will increase infertility. It could also suffer epidemics like Ebola and there’s the impetus for migration to the West, which produces similar infertility rates by the next generation.
        
        Still, I don’t doubt they’ll be a higher proportion of the world population. It won’t stop the overall population drop because it’s the unintended degradation of fertility that will cause the greatest drop rather than deliberate strategies – and the latter will still occur.
        
        I don’t doubt a higher proportion of the world will be Muslim either – and that will introduce a much higher possibility of mass deaths of other faiths.
        
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        June 1, 2018 5:52pm
  - Chris R
    
    I question your citation from the Hebrew University. I understand that Cape Town Medical School (University of Cape Town) has long since refuted this assertion. In fact in the Western World sperm counts have grown modestly but significantly since the 1980s and there are no identified reasons why this ought to be impaired. Please clarify.
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:19pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      LOL – you really want your head in the sand. Here’s one – there’s a lot more.
      
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691969/
      
      There are no reliable figures for global prevalence of infertility,[3] but estimates suggest that nearly 72.4 million couples globally experience fertility problems.[4] As per the WHO estimates 60–80 million couples worldwide currently suffer from infertility.[5] It varies across regions of the world and is estimated to affect 8–12% of couples worldwide.[6,7] It tends to be the highest in countries with high fertility rates; an occurrence termed “barrenness amid plenty.”[8] In recent decades, infertility has impacted an increasing number of couples. Approximately, 10% of couples in the United States are defined as infertile based on the inability to conceive after 12 months of unprotected intercourse.[9,10] According to National Center for Health Statistics, the absolute numbers of impaired fecundity increased by about 2.7 million women, from 4.56 million in 1982 to 7.26 million in 2002, then fell slightly to 6.71 million in 2006–2010.[11] Moreover, the fertility rate in men younger than age 30 years has also decreased worldwide by 15%.
      
      Time and again, various studies have been published supporting a decline in sperm quality or dismissing the same.[44,45,46,47,48] Analysis of retrospective data indicates that sperm counts may have declined in some parts of the world, but there seems to be geographical variations in the semen quality.[49,50,51] The reason for geographic variations in semen characteristics is not clear, but it may be due to environmental, nutritional, socioeconomic, or other unknown causes.[52] The decline in the semen quality coincides with an increasing incidence of abnormalities of the male genital tract including testicular cancer and cryptorchidism in various countries.[53,54]
      
      As early as in the 1980s, many scientists/clinicians reported an emerging concern about deteriorating semen quality.[55,56,57] To better elucidate this problem, a study was done in 1992, which included the meta-analysis of, which had 61 articles 14,947 men with no previous history of infertility. This study concluded that the mean sperm count of healthy men declined by 1% per year between 1938 and 1990.[44] Furthermore, they reported a statistically significant 50% reduction in the mean sperm count from 113 × 106 mL−1 in 1940 to 66 × 106 mL−1 in 1990 and in the seminal volume from 3.40 to 2.75 mL, using linear regression data weighted by the number of men in each study.[44] In 2000, an updated comprehensive meta-analysis was done, which also confirmed the falling trend in sperm count.[58] Also, an another meta-analysis reported that sperm density has decreased globally by about 50% over the past 50–60 years.[31,44] A study in Finland found a temporal decrease in semen quality in the general population over a period of 1998 to 2006.[59] Another study between 1996 and 2007 in the Sfax area of Southern Tunisia in a sample of 2940 men in infertile relationships concluded the decline in semen quality over a period of 12 years.[60] A retrospective study of 9168 cases (men ages 20 to 77) obtained from Andrology and Reproduction Laboratory in Cordoba, Argentina for 10 years (1995–2004) showed a significant decrease in seminal volume, sperm count, motility, viability and normal morphology, and a reduction in alpha-glucosidase and fructose levels in relation to age.[61] Furthermore, a study at the Reproduction Biology Laboratory of the University Hospital of Marseille (France) between 1988 and 2007, which included semen analysis of 10,932 male partners of infertile couples concluded that the whole population demonstrated the declining trends in sperm concentration (1.5%/year), total sperm count (1.6%/year), total motility (0.4%/year), rapid motility (5.5%/year), and normal morphology (2.2%/year). Also, in the group of selected samples with total normal sperm count, the same trends of sperm quality deterioration with time were observed.[62]
      
      Although, the baseline semen quality and sperm functional parameters in fertile Indian men have been documented,[65] the data on declining sperm count in Indian males is limited. According to a study conducted in South India over a period of 13 years, it was found that the decline in sperm count was 30.31% whereas, sperm motility and morphology was reduced by 22.92% and 51.25%, respectively.[66] More importantly, the increase in the incidence of sperm morphological abnormalities in addition to the low sperm count observed in this study indicates the qualitative impairment of spermatogenesis and perhaps of the sertoli cells.[67] …The exact reason for the decline in semen quality is not clear, but it may be due to environmental, nutritional, socioeconomic or other unknown causes… Also, in utero exposures to exogenous estrogenic compounds are capable of altering neonatal testicular development and reducing sperm production in adult men.[67,75] Diethylstilbestrol is thought to be responsible for an increase in abnormalities of the reproductive tract and for a reduction in the output and fertilizing potential of sperm of male offspring.
      
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      June 2, 2018 9:53am
- Classic Liberal
  
  UandC: if, as you say, many in Ireland don’t want abortions, they don’t need to have them. It’s not obligatory.
  
  And those wanting to persuade women who are making the decision can help out in many ways.
  
  The ‘Handmaid’s Tale’ references are a huge joke though. As if Christianity was the most misogynistic religion in Europe these days!
  
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  June 1, 2018 1:29pm
  - UpandComer
    
    The vote was fraudulent. It can’t be ‘proved’ but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.
    
    No poll trend in the history of referendums is as anomalous as that on Irish abortion, except perhaps some of the Irish elections.
    
    Even in countries that fake polls as a matter of course, they keep the trend consistently faked. So Putin always has 94% of the vote. He doesn’t have 60%, then 94%. You don’t have a series of polls showing 45/55 split, and even 49/51 split, and then the non status quo vote gets 67%. It’s statistically impossible. Don’t refer to the Trump election. Ireland is tiny, and this was a referendum, not an election.
    
    It’s not a matter of this obsession with ‘personal choice’. As Jonathan Haidt has pointed out, the pure Libertarian morality is utterly insufficient.
    
    Let’s legalise pedophilia – if they don’t want to have sex with children, they don’t have to. It’s not obligatory. Let’s legalise crocodil crack – it’s not obligatory, etcetera.
    
    As the author pointed out, and everyone from James Joyce, to Eamon Devalera, to Seamus Heaney to Yeats, even to Sinead O’Connor before she lost her mind in leftism, the stories a nation tells itself shape it’s peoples self and external perceptions. They determine it’s dignity. It’s resilience. It’s vitality.
    
    Had there been a true vote, a) No could have won – it really could have b) No could have ‘just’ lost – and Ireland would have retained a sense of continuity with it’s cultural history, whilst accepting the remorseless subversion of the materialist left with a sense of strength.
    
    Instead, it’s been psychically raped. Good faith is gone, and the people, just like the Sicilians whose first ever vote was a lie, will be stultified and dismayed and unmoored. Even more then they are already. They are utterly lost in foggy dew.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS3vaNUYgs
    
    Those women are mentally ill. Taking abortion pills on camera in fancy dress to inflict pain on themselves and their country-men, gleefully. They have been indoctrinated into the most cavalier, gratuitous and vile disregard for themselves, the unborn children in their wombs, and their nation.
    
    Now Ireland thinks it’s them – a purple haired, snarling, pierced, tattooed woman with the feminvirus murdering Irish children on camera for the purpose of utterly gratuitous and demeaning political pleasure. To hurt themselves to hurt their supposed enemies.
    
    That’s Ireland now, instead of Yeats singing softly to his daughter in the tower as the storm rages outside. That’s gone.
    
    Even with all the outrages committed by the homosexual clergy. Even with the grinding poverty. The alcoholism. The foiled dreams. They had that vision. And it’s gone. Because everyone who thought that’s what Ireland was will be thinking it never was. It was just a dream. Because only a tiny majority of Ireland thought that’s what it was.
    
    Ireland was always just misshapen brute screeching half naked female apes shrieking in triumph as they kill Irish children on TV in fancy dress.
    
    The people of Ireland have been smashed, again, and again for centuries, and this was just the last in a series. Now Ireland will go the way ((they)) want Europe to go. Unmoored, those men and women will watch Geordie Shore, Tan themselves to the Congo, and drink and drug away their sense of dismay they can’t shake, and they’ll never know what was done to them. They’ll tell themselves they’re frolicking on the crest of ‘progress’ that takes them further and further from the shores until they drown.
    
    Some of the most brilliant men in the English speaking political and cultural traditions spent decades painstakingly building up what the English robbed. And it’s been smashed by the most idiotic lowest common denominator women one could possibly imagine.
    
    When those women have a muslim heel on their throats and they’re locked inside covered in welts they’ll wish they hadn’t trashed their own culture and kin so gratuitously with so much pleasure. Those kids would have had something to live for.
    
    I make no apologies. I can’t blame them, in a way. They are idiot children with the most rudimentary levels of perception who have been led astray with fake candy and treats dolled out by subversives.
    
    Ah well. Just my opinion.
    
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    June 1, 2018 4:02pm
    - Anne Glen Eden
      
      You’re right though.
      
      The ‘modern’ generations are “idiot children with the most rudimentary levels of perception who have been led astray with fake candy and treats dolled out by subversives (many of them with lots of ‘good intentions’).
      
      It’s divide and rule – not only with people but with ‘knowledge’ as well. Everything is specialised and compartmentalised so no-one sees the whole picture or can put one together. I think some of them even believe you can alter one part of a system (that you don’t even halfway understand) without destroying the whole.
      
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      June 1, 2018 4:28pm
      - UpandComer
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT1nObx_12c
        
        Jefferson described the revolutionary argument.
        
        Ah well, now I feel guilty for being too demoralising.
        
        In the end, I’m hopeful it will turn around in Europe.
        
        Can’t always be too dire.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uqA58YK4Ro&t=952s
        
        Jump to 48.00. Stephen Fry quotes Oscar Wilde. Now Wilde was many things. But he thought in epigrams, and he was right about the need to play gracefully with ideas.
        
        Fry also quoted Chesteton saying ‘Angels can fly, because they take themselves lightly’.
        
        People like me only snarl and champ when we see fundamental unfairness in action.
        
        It’s amazing to see that women are the revolutionists and the enforcers. I think the time of automatic western deference to women and allowance for their sole arbitration of every issue is going to come to and end.
        
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        June 1, 2018 5:25pm
MCos

I wonder if the tariff imposed on Mexican steel imported into the US will go towards the Wall?
According to this report the US currently imports about thirty billion dollars of milled steel of which 9% comes from Mexico. The tariff isn’t going to build a lot of wall.
https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf
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June 1, 2018 10:32am
kowtow

While our shit media obsess about Roseanne Barr’s tweets , a darling of the left wing media, Daniel Ortaga , is shooting demonstrators off the streets.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/31/least-ten-dead-police-militants-open-fire-peaceful-protesters/
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June 1, 2018 10:33am
Manolo

Italy’s new government:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/31/italys-eurosceptic-populist-parties-reach-deal-form-government/

After days of intensive negotiations, the anti-immigrant, hard-Right League party and the anti-establishment Five Star Movement ironed out their differences.

The prospect of Western Europe’s first populist, Eurosceptic government will unnerve Brussels and could lead to further turmoil on financial markets, not just in Europe but around the world.
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June 1, 2018 10:35am
- Ross12
  
  Great to see the Italians outwitting the Brussels elite and basically giving their President the middle finger.
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:42am
Fletch

Re: the new fuel tax. I wouldn’t mind of this was going to be spent on new roads but it is reported that it is going to go on public transport. To be honest, I think that public transport is a waste of time in a city as spread out as Auckland. It’s never going to be good enough to get you from where you are to where you want to be for most people. It would be better spent on roads.
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June 1, 2018 10:41am
- alloytoo
  
  I would like to know the Councilers who voted in favour, let the city know who they are.
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:23am
  - rangitoto
    
    These are the SCUM:
    
    Mayor Phil Goff
    Deputy Mayor Bill Cashmore
    Ross Clow
    Josephine Bartley
    Cathy Casey
    Linda Cooper
    Chris Darby
    Alf Filipaina
    Chris Fletcher
    Richard Hills
    Penny Hulse
    Wayne Walker
    John Watson
    
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    June 1, 2018 12:55pm
    - doggone7
      
      Bastards, trying to get money for some action to help with Auckland transport.
      
      Massive savings could be made if they did absolutely nothing. Huge savings.
      
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      June 1, 2018 12:59pm
kowtow

“Oversight” , Yeah right.

‘Police have admitted an “oversight” when one of their own employees appeared in court under incomplete documentation.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/court-news/missing-occupation-charge-sheet-oversight
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June 1, 2018 10:43am
- Longknives
  
  I’m no Apologist for the Police but I think this is a non story.
  The guy isn’t a Cop- He works as a Non-Sworn Exhibits Officer. So his occupation would probably be boring old ‘Public Servant’ anyway.
  And why would they protect him of all people? They throw their own under the bus on an almost weekly basis…
  
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  June 1, 2018 1:06pm
Monique Watson

So @hmmokrightitis I’m re-posting here. Took a wee break due to afternoon cocktails. Some tobacco. But I didn’t indulge in front of the kiddos.
Was it a “Taranaki Hard Core”, t-shirt”?

https://www.taranakihardcore.co.nz/
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June 1, 2018 10:51am
UpandComer

“If we want to keep secrets, we have to keep them from ourselves” – 1984

https://archive.fo/D9s73

The German BND intelligence agency in conjunction with the NSA can spy on internet hubs.

The BND is tapped into the De-Cix Frankfurt Hub which processes 6 terrabytes of data per second.

Everything Snowden said about Obamas PRISM and Echelon-IV programs which destroyed the last vestiges of the constitution is confirmed. Everything you’ve ever done on the internet is recorded, filed, organized, dossiered and searchable should the need to profile you or compromise you ever arise.

With the EU’s pending copyright directive, no alt media will exist to acknowledge this fundamental truth.

Total surveillance. Of everything. Videos, phone calls, emails, chats, social media post – everything, all collected, all analysed, all parsed, all segregated.

Why would you collect so much encrypted http data? Because the encryption isn’t encrypted.

The people who maintain this data can know everything there is to know about an individual they choose to attend to.

All of this data forms the raw material of quantum computing AI’s.

And it doesn’t consider the access the NSA and BMD will have to Faceberg and all the other Zoid Silicon Valley data miners.

The BMD is supposed to be an agency engaged in foreign espionage. Yet here it is, the new domestic Gestapo.

All hardware has built in backdoors for these people as well. Even in hibernation.

There are four powers, Montesqieu was wrong. Four – the power to control and manipulate information.

We’re in 1984 already.

Freedom was a lovely suggestion whilst it lasted.

And actually if it’s too long don’t read – abscond to Twitter.
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June 1, 2018 10:53am
- rangitoto
  
  ” 6 terrabytes of data per second.”
  
  Recording a years worth of that would need about 200 million one terrabyte drives.
  
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  June 1, 2018 12:27pm
UpandComer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxXS3_aesTQ

African American students at Evergreen College bar white students from the school. Assault and kidnap teachers.

Weinstein hunted through the campus.

School role fall, 60 staff cut.

Harvard has ‘blacks only’ graduation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV_walFCEfk

Martin Sellner, and 17 other young Austrians from Generation Identity facing three years in prison for stating trite truths about Islamic terrorism and violence and degrading of Austria. Because truth is ‘hate-speech’ in NewSpeak.

All his bank accounts frozen. All his data and possessions seized ex parte. Monitored 24/7, barred from work in the public/private sector, surviving off of Kickstart donations – as Patreon have dropped him.

All for doing much less xenophobic, self-interested and ethno-religiocentric activism then is par for the course for friendly fellow people’s of the book and their Boards of Deputies, and Islamic Counsels, and Supreme Counsels busily working away at how they can re-start the boats into Australia and legalise pedophilia.

Quite remarkable.

I’m sure all of this selective repression, & totalitarian Stasi behaviour of the European populace in England, Austria, everywhere, is going to turn out well.

Martin Sellner & Brittany Pettibone are very, very impressive individuals, and create confidence in the future.

Europe is for the Europeans. Not for it’s technocrat ((elite)) and their deep states.

Tommy Robinson needs to be released. Pauline Hanson is over there right now. Which is kind of hilarious. I hope she tells Sajid Javid he’s a cunt, and May that she isn’t welcome in Australia or New Zealand.
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June 1, 2018 11:05am
- sooty
  
  Are you Hugh by a different father?
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:37am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Martin Sellner is intelligent and interesting, and I understand what his point is: ‘if we’re going to have Identity Politics, European countries should be mainly European’. He isn’t racist, doesn’t want to stop all immigration. He’s really just saying what indigenous people all over the world are allowed to say *but only if* they are the right colour.
  
  However: I live in a colonised country, so I would be a hypocrite to say: each country mainly for its indigenous people.
  
  Instead, melanin levels are far less important than culture and ideology.
  
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  June 1, 2018 1:43pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    OK, Sellner (arrested, questioned but released for now) actually makes a distinction between SJW-type Identity Politics vs. his Identitarian Politics.
    
    Quite a complex distinction, probably too subtle for the MSM. This is Sellner explaining it in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlNKIHGz3oo
    
    Worth watching if you’d like to make up your own mind whether he really is ‘far right’.
    
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    June 1, 2018 2:21pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Sikh speaking up for Tommy: Tommy is not racist, and standing up against the ‘grooming gangs’ (ie rape gangs) is not a matter of ethnicity:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGRqhVLuqEw
  
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  June 1, 2018 2:58pm
Manolo

When did he leave the country? 😀
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6417811/southwest-airlines-passenger-sex-act-flight/
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June 1, 2018 11:08am
Monique Watson

$46 million for Northland

“The Prime Minister is in Northland today alongside Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters, Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis, Housing and Transport Minister Phil Twyford, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones, Maori Economic Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Employment Minister Willie Jackson.”

What a fucking joke.
Cheques for comrades and bribes to pull in Northcote voters.
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June 1, 2018 11:09am
- sooty
  
  How did they all get to northland?
  WS Commie Cindy in her own heliopter flying at low level?
  Certainly would not fit all that weight in teletubbies in one chopper.
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:41am
BananaLlama

Even Elephants have had enough of the Muslim refugees shit.
Round the Muslims up and send them back to Arabia where they belong.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2136035/hungry-elephants-kill-10-rohingya-refugees-bangladesh
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June 1, 2018 11:09am
Longknives

TAB Odds are out on our new Messiah-

Traditional Boy or Girl- $1.80
‘We will raise the child as Gender Neutral’- 1.80

Maori name- $1.05
Pakeha name – $10 to 1
Pictures are sold to Woman’s Day within hours of birth- $1.10
Clarke and Jacinda behave with some actual dignity for the first time in their lives and keep the birth private- $100 to 1
Maori song sung in Parliament to herald the arrival of our new Messiah – $1.05
Hilary Barry bursts into tears on live TV – $1.05

This is so damned predictable the only real value is in a multibet! (Or maybe a longshot on the Star of Bethlehem actually appearing this weekend)
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June 1, 2018 11:16am
- Poppa
  
  Born with a full set of teeth $1.10
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:42am
- sooty
  
  How come there is no mention of media income in the PMs percunniary income statement? She must be getting cash or kind from all the lickspittles.
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:45am
- Harkman
  
  Me, “Dear God, I know it has been awhile, and yes I know that I am far from perfect, but if you could do this one favour I will be extremely grateful. Please can you ensure, through your vast powers and wisdom, that the current Prime Minister of New Zealand gives birth on June 14th. The same birthdate as United States President Donald J. Trump.”
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    My darling baby was due sometime in August, but in a rush decided to arrive on the 4th July.
    
    I was thinking of sending her back, but then a hospital midwife told me that all babies born on 4th July – 4-Square b.day- got a $50 cheque and a Teddybear from 4-Square supermarkets.
    I’ve still got the Teddy, but babe has flown the coop.
    
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    June 1, 2018 12:17pm
    - Harkman
      
      The 4 Square teddy bear. Yes, I too know of someone who was born on that date. Most interestingly of all both Jefferson and Adams died on the same day, July 4th.
      
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      June 1, 2018 2:14pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      4th July? Pretty Independent I would say!
      Babe has flown the coop – USA no doubt
      
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      June 1, 2018 5:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        – USA no doubt
        Na… just over the ditch (at the moment).
        
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        June 1, 2018 5:42pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  What about a trifecta on the three wise men; I want to take Mallard; field; field.
  
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  June 1, 2018 12:23pm
  - Longknives
    
    The Biblical Maji rode Camels Tauhei! – Not resurrected Moas..
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:03pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      In their defence, it was hard to find willing women when travelling through Judea.
      
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      June 1, 2018 1:12pm
- RF
  
  Jethro pisses off and rides into the sunset with his new squeeze.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:19pm
Monique Watson

Assad is just about to get fucked over. You don’t fuck with the military might of the US.
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June 1, 2018 11:24am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Sooner the better, Mad Dog Mattis just waits for the ‘fire in the hole’ signal
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:39pm
UpandComer

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/vbq38d/google-is-listing-nazism-as-the-first-ideology-of-the-california-republican-party

Google lists Republicans as Nazis.

Try googling ‘white family’ and see what you get. Try googling ‘white inventors’ see what you get.

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/05/29/academic-normalization-of-pedophilia-as-natural-and-normal/

Ah, what is our tax money paying for as the resource for the febrile minds of our lords and ladies of the academy, re-engineering out societies.

Best prepare to add that ‘P’ to the end of the other letters.

Maybe this explains why 1 million little girls raped by muslims in England since 1980 as detailed in the Rotherham Royal Commission Report and the evaluation of Sarah Champion the silenced MP for Rotherham isn’t regarded as problematic in the Stasi Caliphate of New Britain.

I won’t highlight. Just have a read.

Look at who is consulting with ‘psychology support services’ which inform the following UK government agencies: the Serious Organised Crime Agency, the National Crime Squad, the Metropolitan Police, Kent Police, Essex Police, and the Internet Watch Foundation – and the former president of the British Psychological Society. He was a learned contributor to ‘Perspectives on Pedophilia’.

I’d also suggest having a look at Moira Greylands new book, as detailed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSo1tJZCMkc

Roz Ward can’t bury her works either.

It’s all very interesting.

The same people propound the benefits of Euthanasia. But no links of course

Okay – that’s me for today.

Europe is fine. Academia is fine. America is fine. Culture is fine.

– “It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.” 1984
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June 1, 2018 11:27am
- Longknives
  
  Holy Shit!
  I just tried a little Google experiment.
  
  I Image googled ‘Black Men in History’- It brings up images of Obama, Malcolm X, Muhummad Ali etc etc
  Then I googled ‘White Men in History’- It beings up pictures of KKK, Slavers and some Nazis!
  What the fuck is up with Google??
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:35am
  - UpandComer
    
    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=white+inventors&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ9MuRj7HbAhVCPrwKHeRzBu4Q_AUICigB&biw=960&bih=474
    
    Look at it. It’s just beautiful. Exquisite. If you search for a really really long time, you might find Afro-Edison.
    
    Anyway, don’t get me wrong. I don’t mind the switch of consciousness to the ‘periphery’. But this is perverse.
    
    10-15 years max for the current system to maintain itself.
    
    The pedophile feminist left are now utterly unhinged from reality and from nature, and they will only be returned to both by massive application of force or total collapse of their fake constructs.
    
    There are no secrets. And there are no limits. These people will be revealed.
    
    Anyway, enough from me.
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:37am
    - Longknives
      
      This is curious-
      ‘Greatest Ever White Sportsman’ brings up a series of pictures of Black Athletes! (Jesse Owens, Muhummad Ali etc)
      Are Google actually trying to erase White Males from History?
      
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      June 1, 2018 1:00pm
  - Gerrit
    
    Try using the Russian search engine Yandex for a more balanced result.
    
    Russian White man search included this little (or large) gem
    
    “Nobody can dispute the fact that the biggest recorded penis in history belonged to a white porno star from the 1970’s named John Holmes. … “
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:11pm
    - Longknives
      
      You probably don’t want to Google Image search that…
      
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      June 1, 2018 1:12pm
      - Gerrit
        
        Or Yandex Image search
        
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        June 1, 2018 1:16pm
    - KevOB
      
      Wasn’t that the first xenotransplant from a horse?
      
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      June 1, 2018 1:24pm
  - G152
    
    There are other and more honest search engines.
    Google is made of two words Goo (baby talk)
    And le (the or lie).
    So its either the baby talks.
    Or sticky lies
    
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    June 1, 2018 3:31pm
  - big bruv
    
    knives
    Try another google experiment. Enter ‘ugly New Zealand prime ministers’ and see what you get. I will give you a hint, it’s all teeth.
    
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    June 1, 2018 4:03pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    “What the fuck is up with Google??”
    Suckerberg has taught Gloogle to delete shit and bang in a link instead? You know, just like those innocent links that take you to Pornhub or….. you know where
    
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    June 1, 2018 5:46pm
    - Longknives
      
      I buy it for the articles Steve…
      
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      June 1, 2018 6:36pm
ex-golfer

Ha ha ha.
BP gives the Minister for Pies a middle finger.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104395055/petrol-company-bp-reveals-65pc-rise-in-profits-and-huge-dividend-payment-to-uk-owners

Watcha gonna do now Megs?
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June 1, 2018 11:35am
- Poppa
  
  Ok so we now know where she gets the pies then
  
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  June 1, 2018 11:45am
  - sooty
    
    Run down the shop, dear and get me a box load!
    
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    June 1, 2018 11:46am
  - Longknives
    
    BP do damn nice Pies..
    
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    June 1, 2018 1:01pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Always blow on the pie
      
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      June 1, 2018 5:47pm
4077th

I wonder how long before Faafoi wades into this…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12062701
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June 1, 2018 11:48am
wreck1080

I wonder if labour have effectively blocked new zealanders from purchasing from amazon USA?

Although, the gst issue remains whether kiwis shop from aussie or the USA, so maybe they’ll just block new zealanders altogether?
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June 1, 2018 12:55pm
Rich Prick

I hope Metiria Turei is keeing an eye on this case. Two years and four months. They say jail can be slimming too.
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June 1, 2018 1:14pm
- GoVege
  
  …but..but..but…he PAID BACK the money!
  He’s not a violent offender or drug pusher.
  He sounds like a good father.
  WHY would they jail this man merely for failing to disclose a few assets???
  Sounds like Labour and Little could be right!!
  
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  June 1, 2018 1:23pm
  - GoVege
    
    Just like that other poor dude out west jailed for eight years (!!)….not for GBH/ manslaughter/ attempted murder…for ripping off a million in bennies BUT paying it all back and actually making the state a profit!
    So they lock him up at our expense (at least half a mill) and institutionalize him.
    Why don’t they just put him to work to use those skills and do an annual audit of his acounts?
    
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    June 1, 2018 2:01pm
Inandout

stephie must read this because his beloved CNN is tanking, and his unmentionable Fox is booming.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2018/05/30/fox-news-steamrolls-cable-news-competition-with-big-win-in-may-ratings/#58fb6e343c74

Just shows intelligent viewers can smell CNN’s shit. Watching CNN actually makes me feel depressed.
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June 1, 2018 1:21pm
- Harkman
  
  CNN is a complete disgrace. The thing was CNN missed a massive opportunity to be sensible on things in the Trump era but they blew it. They decided to go to the left of MSNBC and their credibility is lost forever.
  
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  June 1, 2018 2:28pm
- MCos
  
  I took a look at that Forbes article and this caught my eye
  “Trump Lied About What He Paid For Melania’s Engagement Ring”
  Well, fancy that!
  BTW
  Hannity is the highest rated cable show with a viewership of 3.26mill. That’s 1% of the population.
  Pretty impressive, huh.
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:41pm
Monique Watson

Oh the fucking Lefties are out of the pig box. Be afraid. Not dire-wolf afraid
but afraid for livelihoods.
I mean we all know Lefties are coming all over the show , right, but they are really intent on hammering dairy:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth
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June 1, 2018 3:19pm
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, keep sucking on those pork trotters and chewing on those pig ears.
  
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  June 1, 2018 3:29pm
- GoVege
  
  Stop panicking Monique!
  Unless I have misread the graph, it says that only beef generates huge amounts of greenhouse gases.
  If we are just a bit more selective about what we eat, we will survive. 🙂
  
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  June 1, 2018 7:54pm
  - nasska
    
    Here you are trying to save the animals but you’re eating their food. 🙂
    
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    June 1, 2018 8:18pm
Monique Watson

And by the way, Stephie. It came in through Nelson.
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June 1, 2018 3:24pm
Monique Watson

God she’s an awful fucking Prime Minister. Just saying. Those poor fucking farmers. And they say it’s a, “collective fucking decision”. Bull Fucking Shit. It got the government stamp to keep the Greenies lubricated. M B could have been eradicated with long term management. And with far less economic impact.
I am so acutely aware of how the farming community in Ashburton and Geraldine are suffering.
Poor fuckers. First energy is mothballed then farming and justice/efence attacked.
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June 1, 2018 3:36pm
Fletch

Australia has just been hit with the so-called “Amazon tax” and people aren’t happy. It looks like Australians won’t be able to shop at Amazon stores in America, the UK, Germany, etc, which will no longer ship to Australia. Everything will now have to go through Amazon.com.au. This sucks for blu-ray collectors who can’t purchase what they want in Australia any way.

Look for a similar thing to happen here next year 🙁

We’re going back to the isolation of the 1990s where internet shops abroad wouldn’t even ship down under at all.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=48&topicid=236405
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June 1, 2018 4:30pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  My only reason for personal shopping on line, is for things you can’t get here.
  Otherwise my business airfreights , small items, for emergencies to customers, extra to sea freight orders.
  Paying GST on these means that it’s a paperwork nightmare.
  Business’ have to pay a GST offset anyway on larger shipments.
  Which mean, instead of paying the proportion of GST owing after the sale to the customer.
  We have to pay the GST on the estimated value, BEFORE we take in ANY money at all.
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:17pm
RW Capitalist

Went to Simon Bridges meeting in the Hutt today 12 noon.
First counted the seats
13 rows divided in 2 7 seats in one and 6 in the other group
ie 13 x 13 = 169
15-20 down each side
ie 199
6-8 standing at the back
NOT including media (TV 1) etc.
So about 200 attended
He spoke for about 15-20 mins and then took questions for nearly 1 hour
Stuck around to talk to people, the media were set up, so I assume they had questions, I had to leave.
The talk was an eloquent out line of him and his general plans.
Questions ranged from Immigration, Maori seats, euthanasia, abortion, health, apprenticeships, govt. spending etc
All positive and well dealt with by Bridges.
Then the mandatory Labourite started haranguing him
with the usual false narrative…..
eg
only got a surplus because of underfunding etc etc
he went on and on with this bull, until I couldn’t stand it anymore. So I VERY loudly told him if he wanted to make a speech, he should stand up the front otherwise shut up because you’re boring me to death.
I was actually quite proud of my ovation.
Simon’s answer, was to flood him with facts of:
Health spending
economic growth
Debt repayment
Major project work
Covering of disasters etc
Overall, I’d give him a good and solid 8.5/10
Mostly because nobody gets 10/10
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June 1, 2018 5:10pm
- RF
  
  RW.
  
  Good summary. Well done….
  
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  June 1, 2018 7:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Excellent job RW. If I’d been there I would have probably made a fool of myself by punching the Labourite in the nose.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:48pm
Morrissey

Apologise, National. It would be a start, at least…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/06/paula-bennett-should-apologise-for-meth-testing-debacle-marama-davidson.html
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June 1, 2018 5:27pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fuck Off Morrisey, that would be a better option.
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:32pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha! Now that is a good one, Awww C-mon!
    
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    No, really. It’s very funny.
    
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    June 1, 2018 5:38pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  For what???
  Making a decision, based on facts known at the time?
  If she had not, idiots like you, would be quoting health and safety…..saying things like “How could you put peoples lives and health at risk like that?
  
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  June 1, 2018 5:36pm
- rangitoto
  
  Anyone carrying out criminal activity in a taxpayer funded dwelling should be whipped out of the place.
  
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  June 1, 2018 6:22pm
nasska

Like the offended people they represent, each snowflake is individual & fragile. In numbers however, they’ll fuck up a country.
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June 1, 2018 5:56pm
ex-golfer

Another sob story on One News about a 21-year old pregnant with a child who had to sleep in a car outside her mothers house.
As usual the reporter didn’t ask:
1. Why are you pregnant if you haven’t even got a home?
2. Why isn’t the father of the child supporting you?

Instead it was all about MSD apologising for not supporting her into accommodation.

Summary: Another one that is in the cycle of welfare and expects hardworking net taxpaying New Zealanders to give her everything she wants all due to her poor decision-making and lack of personal responsibility.
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June 1, 2018 6:23pm
- Northland Wahine
  
  And 3. Why won’t your mother let you sleep inside?
  
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  June 1, 2018 6:29pm
  - ex-golfer
    
    This was answered by the “victim” – apparently the house is already over-crowded.
    Mum must therefore value the security of others over the un-born child.
    
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    June 1, 2018 6:36pm
    - Northland Wahine
      
      I can not understand why it is Maori can sleep side by side in a marae but suddenly the house is “overcrowded?” . Hey I get it isn’t the healthiest environment to have an overcrowded house, but a lot of the “motels” that are used for emergency housing aren’t either. And it’s warmer than the bloody car. And they’ll be inside all day drinking coffee and complaining how they can’t find a rental but aren’t even looking.
      
      Kinda like those “invisible” jobs that they can never find.
      
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      June 1, 2018 6:53pm
      - nasska
        
        The obligation Maori tradition places on whanau to provide food & accommodation to their (even distant) relatives is a handbrake on individual success. The more money you make & the better house you own the more whanau you will have.
        
        It ill rewards achievers & robs bludgers of the incentive to look after themselves. Just like the crabs who pull their escaping mate back into the bucket so it is with Maori.
        
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        June 1, 2018 7:03pm
      - Northland Wahine
        
        A lot of truth in what you say there nasska. But I just don’t buy that her mother wouldn’t put her up. If her mother encouraged to seek emergency housing, it would be to get a motel, for the simple reason so they can all have a “holiday”. I have lost count of how many evictions I’ve come across from motels because they’ve had extra people in their rooms.
        
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        June 1, 2018 7:16pm
      - nasska
        
        Off current topic NW but I was out close to your rohe on Wednesday. Bloody good mussels & chips at the takeaway they were too.
        
        But caution. Hold onto your tribal land. The development going on close to the beach in the area is going to wreck the place for everyone.
        
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        June 1, 2018 7:28pm
      - Northland Wahine
        
        I hear you nasska. Iwi are working very closely with the Chinese to ensure the environment isn’t affected. And regardless of what Margaret Mutu critics say, many from her own Iwi, no cash has been exchanged for special favours.
        
        The utilities and roads into Karikari just aren’t up to that kinda development and I hope they never be. For the record, if you made it to Matai Bay and saw a big red gate…that’s where my heart is.
        
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        June 1, 2018 8:58pm
      - nasska
        
        I’ve been down Matai Bay Road up to the sign & gate advising private ownership but it was a couple of years ago.
        
        It is a beautiful area similar to all of Doubtless Bay.
        
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        June 1, 2018 9:09pm
Rodney Randall

https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/31/police-dog-killed-axe-man-shouting-allahu-akbar-schiedam-7592528/amp/#click=https://t.co/NqhoL4vaCS

Imam Tawhidi
@Imamofpeace

“Dear @peta and @RSPCA_official can you please condemn this Islamic terrorist attack on a poor police dog? For organisations that are usually loud, you seem to be very quiet now..”
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June 1, 2018 7:29pm
- Longknives
  
  Can Stephieboy (Or one of the other Muslim apologists) please explain for me-
  
  If you are Muslim and kill an Infidel Christian you get 72 Virgins right?
  What do you get if you kill a Dog- 72 Puppies?
  I myself am Agnostic- And I usually respect others Religious beliefs.
  But Jesus- What an utterly pathetic excuse for a ‘Religion’…Shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ while killing a dog?? What a cowardly and pathetic bunch (Though I guess these are the same losers who set off nail bombs at little Girl’s pop concerts..)
  
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  June 1, 2018 7:40pm
- GoVege
  
  Sick, twisted basta*d!
  
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  June 1, 2018 10:51pm
Rodney Randall

I see the screecher ( Renae Mahi) that deluded herself into thinking she could strip Sir Bob of his knighthood is buggering off to Canada to live.

She will be right at home with soyboy “peoplekind”” Trudeau.
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June 1, 2018 7:32pm
- Longknives
  
  Will she still get all her NZ on Air taxpayer money (To preach her hatred of ‘Whitey’) in Canada?
  
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  June 1, 2018 7:43pm
RF

I would like to be a fly on the wall when the SLG finally realises that apart from her group of rabid feminist supporters no one really likes her.

It’s all turning to crap and will become worse after Peters goes off the rails……
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June 1, 2018 7:37pm
cha

Mossad being quite un-mossad like when two successive Mossad heads rejected Netanyahu’s instructions to plan and prepare an attack on Iran as an illegal order.

https://www.jpost.com//Israel-News/Former-Mossad-chief-In-2011-Netanyahu-ordered-2-week-Iran-attack-plan-558833
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June 1, 2018 8:37pm
- rangitoto
  
  It’s called the rule of law. Something unknown to most countries in that region.
  
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  June 1, 2018 8:52pm
  - cha
    
    When you’re too over the fucking top for Israeli secret services and their long history of ignoring the rule of law….
    
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    June 1, 2018 9:08pm
nasska

While shouting a religious slogan, an axe wielding maniac hacks to death a police dog in Holland.

There’s a very special prize of a holy book if you can guess his religion.
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June 1, 2018 9:01pm
- rangitoto
  
  Well I guess he isn’t a follower of Jainism.
  
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  June 1, 2018 9:24pm
Monique Watson

I asked Hubby tonight: “Do you sometimes run from the room when I talk”?

His reply: “Yes”. When I’ve heard it all before”.
Then he went bowling.

Reminds me of the following Billy Connolly quip:
“Marriage is a wonderful invention: then again, so is a bicycle repair kit.”
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June 2, 2018 12:18am
Monique Watson

Bloody Hell this time zone difference with daylight savings is doing my head in. No-one else awake.

Anyhow. Goodbye Rajoy. Hello Conte.

Victory for democracy on both sides of the ring.
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June 2, 2018 1:50am
Monique Watson

Can someone put a sock in this one’s pie-hole?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_cid=1&gallery_id=193875

OMFG. The perils are obvious. Someone needs to beat Lees-Galloway around the head with an air sock labelled ‘Unintended Consequences’. Why don’t we just open the fucking borders and let anyone in.
And let everyone outta prison while we are at it.
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