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William of Ockham

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Woke up this morning and there was no gas.
“No gas!” I shrieked! “No gas! No gas! No facking gas.”
“Ring Jacinda,” I thought, “I read on Kiwibog it’s all her fault. Silly little girl… ”
Ring-ring-ding-a-ling …
“Prime Minister?”
“Morning William,” she said, “How can I help?”
“There’s no gas,” I gasped in indignation, “No facking gas. Have they had three strikes…?”, I whimpered.
“No strikes recently, and they’ve had plenty of time,” she replied.
“That’s what I thought,” I responded, “But according to Kiwibog…” my voice trailed off, “It’s all your fault.”
“Look, Uncle William,” she said sternly, “You know they’re a clutch of gasbags.”
“And windbags too,” I answered meekly, “We’ll just have to get cracking building wind turbines.”
“Talking about crackling,” she said, “Pass a ten dollar note in front of that Rar-rar fellow, and tell me if he can see anything beyond the end of his nose.”
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June 12, 2018 8:00am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  That explains why youre a brain dead wanker – youre her uncle!
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:08am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    An uncle like that explains why she’s a SLG (Mallard, 2018)
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:22am
    - Sam_Bro
      
      My sides are hurting. Thank you for all the triggered responses.
      
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      June 12, 2018 7:14pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  I can sum up this govt. for ya
  Their policy making formula.
  The Jumblies – Poem by Edward Lear
  
  They went to sea in a Sieve, they did,
  In a Sieve they went to sea:
  In spite of all their friends could say,
  On a winter’s morn, on a stormy day,
  In a Sieve they went to sea!
  And when the Sieve turned round and round,
  And every one cried, `You’ll all be drowned!’
  They called aloud, `Our Sieve ain’t big,
  But we don’t care a button! we don’t care a fig!
  In a Sieve we’ll go to sea!’
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  
  They sailed away in a Sieve, they did,
  In a Sieve they sailed so fast,
  With only a beautiful pea-green veil
  Tied with a riband by way of a sail,
  To a small tobacco-pipe mast;
  And every one said, who saw them go,
  `O won’t they be soon upset, you know!
  For the sky is dark, and the voyage is long,
  And happen what may, it’s extremely wrong
  In a Sieve to sail so fast!’
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  
  The water it soon came in, it did,
  The water it soon came in;
  So to keep them dry, they wrapped their feet
  In a pinky paper all folded neat,
  And they fastened it down with a pin.
  And they passed the night in a crockery-jar,
  And each of them said, `How wise we are!
  Though the sky be dark, and the voyage be long,
  Yet we never can think we were rash or wrong,
  While round in our Sieve we spin!’
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  
  And all night long they sailed away;
  And when the sun went down,
  They whistled and warbled a moony song
  To the echoing sound of a coppery gong,
  In the shade of the mountains brown.
  `O Timballo! How happy we are,
  When we live in a Sieve and a crockery-jar,
  And all night long in the moonlight pale,
  We sail away with a pea-green sail,
  In the shade of the mountains brown!’
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  
  They sailed to the Western Sea, they did,
  To a land all covered with trees,
  And they bought an Owl, and a useful Cart,
  And a pound of Rice, and a Cranberry Tart,
  And a hive of silvery Bees.
  And they bought a Pig, and some green Jack-daws,
  And a lovely Monkey with lollipop paws,
  And forty bottles of Ring-Bo-Ree,
  And no end of Stilton Cheese.
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  
  And in twenty years they all came back,
  In twenty years or more,
  And every one said, `How tall they’ve grown!
  For they’ve been to the Lakes, and the Torrible Zone,
  And the hills of the Chankly Bore!’
  And they drank their health, and gave them a feast
  Of dumplings made of beautiful yeast;
  And every one said, `If we only live,
  We too will go to sea in a Sieve,—
  To the hills of the Chankly Bore!’
  Far and few, far and few,
  Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
  Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve.
  Edward Lear
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:12am
  - MH
    
    The inedible reply….
    
    The deputy PM and the PM went to sea
    In a beautiful pea-Green Party boat,
    They took some sunnnies, and promised plenty of monies,
    Wrapped up in a budget of hit and hope.
    The deputy looked up to the stars above,
    And sang to a small guitar,
    “O lovely PM! O PM, my love,
    What a beautiful PM you are,
    You are,
    You are!
    What a beautiful PM you are!”
    
    II
    PM said to the Boy friend, “You elegant fellow!
    How charmingly sweet he sings!
    O let us be married! too long you have tarried:
    But what shall you do for a ring?”
    They went on Parental leave, for a year and a day,
    To the land where the Bongy-Bowl glows
    And there in a wood a ghost Piggy-wig stood
    With a ring at the end of his nose,
    He knows,
    He knows,
    With a ring at the end of his pose.
    
    III
    “Dear Robertson, are you willing to sell for 10 cents
    Your ring?” Said the ghostly Piggy, “I will.”
    So they took it away, and were married next day
    By the Speaker Ducky who lives on the hill.
    They dined on mince, and slices of quince,
    Which they ate with a runcible swoon;
    And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand,
    They danced with Seymour by the light of the moon,
    The loon,
    The lune,
    They danced by the light of the moon.
    
    eddy Leer (attrib)
    
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    June 12, 2018 12:36pm
hmmokrightitis

We have to – its a dead link…
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June 12, 2018 8:09am
Inandout

The Singapore meeting is being dissected by many intelligent observers overseas, as well as ruby lips on Garner. She doesn’t like Trump merely because he is Trump; an attitude you would expect from an air head. As a businessman Trump will want the best deal for America.
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June 12, 2018 8:14am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  As a businessman, Trump will want the best deal for himself.
  As a statesman – he should be looking for the best deal for the US and its allies.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:19am
  - dime
    
    Idiot
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:21am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Yes, he is. I’m glad you share the general assessment of Trump.
      
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      June 12, 2018 8:22am
      - Harkman
        
        He was referring to you.
        
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        June 12, 2018 8:56am
      - stephieboy
        
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        Harkman, I don’t believe you.
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:02am
      - Garbageman
        
        Dude you get more infantile with each new reincarnation, almost like a stephiebot that contracted syphilis you promise not to come back yet you always do
        
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        June 12, 2018 11:48am
    - sam green
      
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      Great debate dime – with your rapier wit and all.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:11am
      - Colville
        
        brevity is the soul of wit.
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:23am
      - sam green
        
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        He could have just used a full stop then.
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:45am
      - starboard
        
        Go to school spam green.
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:40pm
      - sam green
        
        Sad sad man.
        
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        June 12, 2018 3:19pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Perhaps the downtickers should be able to explan why Trump would not be looking for the best deal for the US and its allies.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:38am
    - Ed Snack
      
      But what makes you think that he isn’t, except for your refusal to accept that he might.
      
      I’m not all that sanguine about the short term outcomes – North Korea has made and broken many agreements. But this time Kim is personally invested in these potential deals, if they are seen to fail that could have consequences beyond the norm. Of course he can control a lot of what the NK population learns, but perhaps not as thoroughly as his predecessors.
      
      My view is that we should grant trump a good deal of leeway, he’s approached this differently and even if it fails he’s done no worse than any of his predecessors. And if he succeeds, all kudos to him. So far, interesting and there’s apparent progress, but I’m going to wait to see if there’s real progress before getting all laudatory or critical.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:58am
      - Paulus
        
        Kim can give nothing away – his General’s have too much to lose to do anything substantial.
        Kim being at the top of their list.
        
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        June 12, 2018 11:04am
  - JIV
    
    So, as a statesman he should be looking for the best deal for his country.
    
    Is this similar to shutting down the gas and oil industry just to look good to your socialist friends when you’re on your holiday to Europe
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:47am
- kowtow
  
  The “in” crowd live in a world to themselves. While Trump is another member of the elite , what’s different about him is he is working on behalf of the “out” crowd. MAGA. And at least he’s not a craven PC wanker like Merkel , Trudeau or May.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/06/10/robert-deniro-at-tony-awards-f-ck-trump/
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:19am
  - Simon
    
    Trump will win again. When Trump wins the world will win on this one. A deal is good for US/World and good for the people of NK.
    
    If Hillary was involved in a deal with NK the outcome would be NK to “halt” its nuclear program in exchange for $50 billion payment, with a 10% cut back to the Clinton Foundation.
    
    If Obama it would be a $50 billion payment to NK, talks scheduled to halt nuclear research, a NK book deal for Obama worth $50 million and some NK spying against his political opponents on the side.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:39am
- oldpark
  
  Even worse the clown known as Corrin Dann has chimed in as well . Seems he is also an authority on President Trump. Go figure.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:42am
  - gorse
    
    Clown he is IMO. I remember him telling us for months prior to the US election how Clinton was going to win. The night she didn’t he looked like s—t as he had to broadcast on our TV, live from the USA, that Trump was elected. I will always remember the look on his face. Took a while to stop laughing. Still do when I think of it.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:22am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I&O: It baffles and frustrates me that there is so much in the news about something that hasn’t happened yet.
  Don, Kim and their respective teams turned up well early for the meeting, and that tells me there’s a lot of “ducks on the pond” activity going on, but not a mention of that – just endless speculation about what might or might not come out of today’s meeting.
  It is also frustrating to notice the commentators who ought to recognise how world-changing a positive outcome could be, but are hoping the talks fail so their jaundiced view of Trump can be vindicated.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:10am
oldpark

The reason why NZs self appointed Dictator Peters decided to renege on dumping the “Three Strikes Law” was obvious.
Peters has “Three Strikes” Recorded against him yet he is now running NZ.
Lest we forget .Hunua. Tauranga ,North Auckland. He got the bums rush by the electors and a dont come Monday.
Even worse he is indirectly suing NZs taxpayers who had the temerity to dump him.
Go figure .Only in NZ could such a travesty of justice be given legs.
Maybe the common sense Judge who is in charge of Dictator Peters claim for hurty feelings throws his allegations out,and stops laughing to think that a ratbag like Peters could even have hurty feelings.
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June 12, 2018 8:14am
- Inandout
  
  The 3 strikes fiasco was organised by Angry and Peters as a PR exercise for NZF.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:18am
  - pdm
    
    I am not sure Little is bright enough to do that- even though it comes naturally to Peters.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:55am
    - MH
      
      I sneered when on nat TV Little threw the 3 strike clause into his bin as a gesture of his contempt for it.
      Out of the ashes…
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:09am
      - RF
        
        Angry is soooooo pissed off.
        
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        June 12, 2018 11:27am
- hullkiwi
  
  The self righteous entitlement & indignation of Peters knows no bounds….
  
  So, how much manure are we going to be fed over the next 6 weeks to improve his ratings & distract the MSM’s attention?
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:27am
  - stephieboy
    
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    hullkiwi, tsk,tsk,tsk..Just because you did not get your way 23/09/2027.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:57am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      “.Just because you did not get your way 23/09/2027.”
      
      Stupidboy acting as oracle – predicting the election outcome in 9 years time.
      
      You really are a dense dick.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:24am
    - G152
      
      One might ask as to what is going to happen in 2027 ?
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:25am
      - Justitia
        
        The gas will have run out and we’ll be eating grass if all goes to the CoL’s plan.
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:36am
  - Paulus
    
    When will Peters pay back the $158,000 he took from Taxpayers – is this why he is suing everybody as he wants more money.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:06am
    - starboard
      
      He’s Maori, taking comes naturally.
      
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      June 12, 2018 12:51pm
      - sooty
        
        Koha, mate, koha.
        
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        June 12, 2018 2:41pm
- Harkman
  
  Gosh Little is thick as sh!t, this a terrible policy to campaign on, yet he said last night that he is determined to push on. All National needs to do is pull out victims or their families to demonstrate the harm caused. Again, no wonder Labour was in the 20s under this guy.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:03am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘All National needs to do is pull out victims or their families to demonstrate the harm caused.’
    
    National will need to , because the media and cognisanti in crowd certainly won’t. You know them , the carefully chosen “guests” on RNZ and favoured “opinion” piece writers.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:39am
    - Komata
      
      KT
      
      It’s certainly what the Nats should do, but do they actually want to? Even allowing for the MSM’s blatant bias against them, they seem to be ‘missing in action’ somewhere…
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:11am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Not a peep from them this morning on Red Radio, unless I missed it. Taxinda, Little on the two current Winston fiascos and not a word from National. Are they ignored or don’t they push hard enough?
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:10pm
      - Batman
        
        CL – oh there’s definitely RNZ subconscious bias in there for sure. But the Opposition leader gets the Monday morning slot, now that JA has apparently decided that Tuesday is a better day for the PM to go on. Perhaps she reckons that responding to Monday’s news is better than trying to think up and set the agenda for the week by early AM Monday, as Key did so well
        
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        June 12, 2018 1:28pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    He was vastly rude to Guyon this morning. It was hilarious, and afterwards Guyon read out a text claiming that he was so partisan that he should be fired and work for Fox instead! Guyon, who most of us here think is pretty partisan the other way. Even he thought the text was funny.
    
    But when faced with the aggressive and rude Little, I guess anyone could sound ‘anti’.
    
    I just wonder how Little and Peters even manage to talk – they are so similar in their attitude and lack of any polite communication skills.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:23am
- peterwn
  
  Possibly there is other ‘tension’ between Winston and Andy. Andy is supposed to deliver Winston the promised ‘Waka Hopper’ law but it seems to be moving rather slowly. This must be causing Winston some agitation so perhaps he has responded by vetoing ‘three strikes’ abolition.
  I just had a thought – the second strike prisoners and third strike prisoners must be rather disappointed. They would have assumed ‘three strikes’ was a virtual dead duck and hence would be out of prison quicker.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:05am
  - igm
    
    You have overlooked the fact Toxic Gnome and Gutless Little Andy are comrades at Pike River coal face. They have stated they are leading the recovery together!
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:18am
    - MH
      
      i can see them both,leg irons on, pushing each other to the portal, Winston with a budgie on his shoulder and a reaching forward with a blind mans cane and Little holding up a naked light whilst wearing earmuffs
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:14am
      - calendar girl
        
        That’s brilliant imagery, MH. Loved it!
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:13pm
secondcumming

Well I thort it was funny…..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfLfr_XXkAE0I-I.jpg
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June 12, 2018 8:17am
Chuck Bird

Cindy’s abortion law change is likely to be another thing that will not succeed because of NZF. I wonder if she will have a conversation with Winston first or make the same mistake Little made. I cannot see Peters supporting more liberal abortion law than what we have already.
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June 12, 2018 8:19am
- Than
  
  It might have a chance if National decided to treat it as a conscience vote.
  
  Assuming Labour+Greens were were all votes in favour, they’d only need to persuade 7 National MPs to get it across the line, which wouldn’t be difficult. The bigger challenge would be in persuading Simon Bridges to allow it as a conscience vote to begin with.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:41am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    I went to Simon’s meeting in the Hutt.
    That’s EXACTLY what he said, that he would make it, along with the euthanasia law, a conscience vote (I believe, if memory serves, he had already instructed Nat. MP’s this on the euthanasia bill).
    Just because the MSM refuse to report it, doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.
    BTW, at this meeting the MSM reporters sat outside, banging their gums together, to each other, waiting for the formal interview, they (as far as I could see) NEVER set foot inside the hall, so wouldn’t know what he said.
    and
    I don’t remember any of it, appearing on the NEWS at all.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:07am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Keep being our reporter! The MSM are dead if they can’t keep up with the facts.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:27am
    - Inandout
      
      This is exactly why Trump succeeded, because he ignored the MSM elite and went straight to the people. Our print media is struggling for relevance because many purchasers merely skip over the biased political content and look for the sales, especially on Saturdays. Lazy reporters on minimum wages rarely produce interesting print.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:56am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Sadly there would probably be more than 7 Nat MPs who would support more liberal abortion laws. All 5 Nat MPs on a select committee would not support a mother petition that by a mother that parents be notified when their underage children got abortions.
    
    This mother’s daughter got a secret abortion. The abortion was botched so she is not able now to have a child and she attempted suicide. Her parents did not find out about the abortion until after the attempted suicide.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:39am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Secret in a proper clinical setting or secret backstreet? Big difference.
      
      Basically if someone can’t support a child, they shouldn’t have one.
      
      Abortion is sad, but a lifetime and next generation/s on benefits is even sadder.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:30am
      - kowtow
        
        The taxpayer clearly can’t support expensive prisons.
        
        If it’s ok to kill babies for economic and social reasons then by the same token it must be ok to kill prison inmates .
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:23pm
    - MickMac
      
      Chuck
      I want Bridges et al to explain to me the procedure and steps whereby the legal responsibility for a child is taken off of the parents and given to someone else and then after the deed is given back to the parents.
      
      Who exactly is the person who takes it away?
      To my mind, the parents have a case against that person?
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:04am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        MickMac
        
        Below is the start of the report. 5 of the 10 MPs were Nats. The law that says schools can arrange abortions for underage girls has been in force since 2004. All that Hillary Kieft was asking that parents be notified not that they have to give permission. The school acted lawfully so nothing can be done.
        
        Petition 2014/11 of Hillary Kieft and 6 others
        Report of the Justice and Electoral Committee
        Contents
        Recommendation 2
        Introduction 2
        View of the petitioner 3
        Responsibility for, and oversight of, abortion services 4
        Counselling and support offered throughout the abortion process 4
        Informed consent and authorising abortions 5
        Should there be a requirement to notify parents? 6
        Improving data collection 8
        New Zealand First Party and Marama Fox minority view 8
        Appendix 10
        PETITION 2014/11 OF HILLARY KIEFT AND 6 OTHERS
        2
        Petition 2014/11 of Hillary Kieft and 6 others Recommendation
        The Justice and Electoral Committee has considered Petition 2014/11 of Hillary Kieft and 6 others and makes the following recommendations to the Government:
         The Abortion Supervisory Committee should collect data on the uptake of post-procedure care, such as counselling services.
         The Abortion Supervisory Committee should take responsibility for and strengthen the regime around post-procedure care and oversight.
         When renewing or certifying a consultant, the Abortion Supervisory Committee must emphasise the consultant’s responsibilities around post-procedure care and the protection of children under 16 who have an abortion procedure.
         Ongoing training should be provided to certifying consultants to assist them in recognising the risk and safety issues around parental notification and the need to act accordingly.
         The Abortion Supervisory Committee should, together with District Health Boards, confirm best-practice guidelines for pre- and post-procedure care, and mandatory follow-up for children under 16 years old, especially for those who opt not to inform a parent or caregiver.
        Introduction
        Process
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:04pm
- Psycho Milt
  
  Cindy’s abortion law change is likely to be another thing that will not succeed because of NZF.
  
  Why would you think that? Do you imagine Bridges would whip National MPs to vote against liberalisation? If so, prepare yourself for disappointment – it would be a conscience vote and what Winston thinks wouldn’t count for much.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:39am
- calendar girl
  
  Don’t put all the blame on Andrew Little for this 3-Strikes fiasco, Chuck Bird. Yes, the repeal of 3-Strikes was his ‘baby’ (if you’ll excuse the word in this week of sensitivity). But Jacinda Ardern is Leader of the Labour Party, and it was her job to get coalition-partner Peters on-side.
  
  The PM has shown inexplicably weak leadership on the 3-Strikes issue. And that failure has left egg all over the face of the Federation of Labour’s former leader (and her own Party’s former Leader) Andrew Little. Leaders don’t usually retain their authority for very long when they hang their so-called ‘supporters’ out to dry in such a very public way.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:41am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    @calendar girl
    
    I will put the blame on Cindy if she tries pushing to make our abortion on demand law more liberal and does not check if she has support. I cannot see Peters supporting such a change.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:07am
    - calendar girl
      
      I agree with you, Chuck. But I can’t even guess at her next move. She has limited leadership skills, and she herself is all over the place organisationally.
      
      Interesting times ahead.
      
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      June 12, 2018 12:32pm
  - MickMac
    
    Maybe Taxinda (The Mother of the Nation) wanted to give Angry Andy a slap down??
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:06am
    - sooty
      
      What to keep him in his place and not be after her job at the next Labour conferance?
      
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      June 12, 2018 2:43pm
- kowtow
  
  Interesting how the media want to gush about the birth of a child to a woman who wants to make it easier to kill babies .
  
  Strange world.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:42am
  - lifesgood
    
    And why on earth would anyone want to make it legal for anyone to perform an abortion. The very reason abortion was made easier in the first place was to prevent the horrors of back street abortions and the resulting deaths and damage they inflicted.
    Gosh people have short memories.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:59am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      LG, that really is not what will happen.
      Liberalisation of abortion would mean that women wouldn’t have to be found mentally unstable by 2 doctors (as currently is the case) to have one. It would still have to be done by a doctor in a clinical setting.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:35am
      - kowtow
        
        If we’re honest about it and want to take it out of the criminal statutes women and their “partners”should take responsibility for their own actions and take precautions so as not to become pregnant.
        
        Why should the taxpayer fund charnel houses for the feckless , careless and irresponsible.
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:28pm
      - Batman
        
        Hey Kowtow, fuck you, arsehole.
        
        It happened to me, and I’m VERY careful. So don’t go around passing judgement from your mother’s basement.
        
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        June 12, 2018 1:40pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “fuck you, arsehole.”
        
        Good idea – less likely to lead to pregnancy!
        
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        June 12, 2018 1:51pm
      - kowtow
        
        Batman
        
        Passing judgement?
        
        Nope , just doing the right wing thing and making suggestions as to how the taxpayer can be saved money .
        
        Are you some sort of socialist who thinks the taxpayer should stump up cos you shoot off too early?
        
        Generally I try to be civil here , but for what it’s worth why don’t you go and fuck yourself , yourself?
        
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        June 12, 2018 3:40pm
- Komata
  
  Chuck
  
  Um, let me see if I get this right as I seem to have missed something.
  
  The PM (pregnant) wants to make abortion even easier?
  
  IF that is the case, then her hypocricy is very evident, and I’m surprised she hasn’t already taken the ‘necessary steps’…
  
  Can you enlighten me please?
  
  Thanks.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:16am
  - riffer
    
    Sure. It may be a foreign concept to you, but it’s based on the woman’s right to choose.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:29am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      What about the babies right to life?
      
      Go on, tell me – babies aren’t human, so they don’t have a right to life? /GAG/
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:47am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        We’ve been through this a million times and we’ll never agree. Just form/join a charity that helps girls/women have babies if they choose to.
        
        And those that can’t be persuaded by your charity’s love and warmth can have a safe abortion instead of a backstreet one.
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:15pm
      - kowtow
        
        Classical L
        
        No such thing as a “safe” abortion , for the baby that is.
        
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        June 12, 2018 3:42pm
  - logan0312
    
    Classic Liberal. Define ‘safe’ as in your words ‘safe abortion’
    In what way? Morally, spiritually, emotionally or just physically. Physical in itself could be disputed, but it does seem the most superficial way of justifying abortion.
    
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    June 12, 2018 3:29pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I really can’t be bothered. All the information is out there. You and I will have to agree to disagree on this topic.
      
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      June 13, 2018 11:36am
MCos

How’s that Waka Jumping bill looking?
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June 12, 2018 8:20am
3-coil

Winston yanks his chain and Andrew Little chokes.

Is Little a total imbecile? He has spent 8 months lecturing the NZ public he knows best, and telling us that 3-strikes was gone. What a total waste of a colossal amount of time and money by our Justice Minister, preparing for repeal of legislation (purely because it was brought in by the National/Act government) that was ultimately stillborn through lack of his own government’s support. If Andrew Little is too lazy or arrogant to check this basic requirement, he is not up to the job. If he has been promoted beyond his capability, even Jacinda must realise now that he has to go from the role.
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June 12, 2018 8:20am
- Chuck Bird
  
  @3-coil
  
  Little may not have checked with Peters. However, he may have and Peters either said he would support his bill and changed his mind after his poor polling.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:28am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    That is what Little hinted at during his very grumpy interview with Guyon this morning. But only hinted, wouldn’t really state.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:36am
- waikatogirl
  
  Mike Williams, ex-Labour Pardy and member of the Howard League said this morning that the 3S Laws are symbolic and he also stated with a straight face that too many are in prison for not have a drivers licence. ?
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:29am
  - sooty
    
    Too many in prison for not owning the car they were driving as well.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:34am
  - gorse
    
    I would take bets that there is no one in prison for driving without a licence only. They would have been comitting a much more serious offence while not having a licence eg repeated drink driving. The Police would have tacked on the driving without a licence charge because they have to. This is a case of never letting the truth get in the way of a good story.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:35am
    - waikatogirl
      
      “I would take bets that there is no one in prison for driving without a licence only.”
      That point was obviously challenged. Williams reply was that “Northland doesn’t have driving testing facilities and being rural people have to drive to get anywhere”. No mention of all the actual crimes attached to the person driving without a licence. ?
      
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      June 12, 2018 8:51am
      - sooty
        
        Yer, they have to drive their crop to market. If there’s any left after the police have been in their helicopters.
        
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        June 12, 2018 8:57am
      - softail 1450
        
        Waikatogirl, “no driving licence facility in Northland” its because most of the folk are incapable of actually passing the test because of meth,dope and alcohol addiction ,so what would be the point of opening an office? seriously,,,,
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:16am
      - Longknives
        
        https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/driver-licensing-agents-and-course-providers/agents/northland/
        
        Northland doesn’t have Driver Test facilities???
        Williams is simply another Lying Leftie…
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:27am
      - starboard
        
        Williams is a cretin, remember the ( lol ) ‘H bomb’ on JK..? what a dickhead.
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:59pm
  - kowtow
    
    If ,and that’s a big if, they are in prison for not having a driving license then it is because they will have repeatedly ignored court orders to not drive while unlicensed.
    A contempt of court . Some details would be useful.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:36am
    - stephieboy
      
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      kowtow, really? Could you supply a transcript of the interview?
      
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      June 12, 2018 8:40am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Look on Tv3 on demand SB.
        
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        June 12, 2018 8:54am
      - sooty
        
        Or the tv police shows.
        
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        June 12, 2018 8:58am
      - Nookin
        
        Stephieboy
        Williams was interviewed by Garner in his capacity as representative of the Howard League.
        
        Firstly, he made the observation that there were only three third strikers and he then proceeded to trivialise their offending.
        
        He failed to mention any single one of the second strikers identified by DPF.
        
        Somewhat begrudgingly, he eventually acknowledged that there were some in prison who should stay there and have the key thrown away.
        
        He then stated that there were 500 people in jail for driving without a licence. He was questioned on that and asked how people could go to jail for driving without a licence. He said that if they do it often enough, a prison sentence will eventuate. He failed to mention that in these circumstances, they are probably not charged with driving without a licence but are being charged with disqualified driving – usually on multiple charges having acquired a healthy list of convictions.
        
        Mark Richardson suggested that maybe these people have difficulty with respect for the law to which Williams countered that this was not so and, somehow, the government should procure a drivers licence for them and all the problems would go away.
        
        Williams then attributed the transgressions to the fact that public transport is not necessarily available – impliedly suggesting that the drivers were really just simply going to get the groceries, go shopping or go to work. His trivialisation of the issue was so astounding as to destroy any credibility whatsoever that he may ever have had on these matters.
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:36am
      - pentwig
        
        oh sillyboy
        caught being a trolling idiot again
        tsk, tsk, tsk
        
        LOL
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:02am
  - Inandout
    
    Mike Williams has gone from hugging Labour to hugging criminals. This link, especially after 3 Strikes, is plainly obvious. Labour relies on down and outs for their votes, but thank goodness they are a very unreliable source.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:56am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Saw it
    My hair about caught fire.
    So by his theory, that if they don’t have a license, we should “GIVE” them one.
    Just a few thoughts on that.
    1. Should we give them a TV to stop them stealing mine?
    2. Should we give them a handbag, to stop them mugging little old ladies?
    3. Vouchers for prostitutes to prevent rape?
    4. What other offenses were they also convicted of?
    5. How many offenses and for what had they been convicted for before this one?
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:15am
  - igm
    
    Mike Williams is a Labourite . . . what would you expect?
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:21am
    - Lance
      
      Mike… Neutron bomb man.
      Say no more
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:45am
      - RF
        
        The super sluth who was sent to Aussie by Clark to dig up dirt on John Key.
        
        He came slithering back empty handed covered in egg yoke.
        
        His leader was not pleased and sent him back to the gulag for re education.
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:17am
  - peterwn
    
    Technically he may be quite correct, but it would only be the ‘main’ offence considered for sentencing in very few cases and even then it would be for multiple instances.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:54am
  - MH
    
    He then suggested that they be given a license….and I presume a redeemable Police Chase exemption voucher.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:20am
- artemisia
  
  But but but – according to Audrey Young yesterday “Little was led to believe from Peters that he opposed it”.
  
  Led by?
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:24am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    The nose…..Yup…”little was led by”,,,,the nose.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:44am
VicParking

Our Minister of Justice, Mr Little brain, spit the dummy on Red Radio this morning. “Don’t answer your own Questions”, “What are you asking me”, “Ask me a Question instead of making Statements”
To think this Union Lumpenproletariat had aspersions of being our Prime Minister.
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June 12, 2018 8:27am
- kowtow
  
  Lumpenproletarian he is not. He is a middle class boy who knows what’s good for the workers and the rest of us.
  To use trade union language , he’s a class traitor.
  
  But by wanting to let crims out and by going soft on crime he is a traitor to all decent law abiding New Zealanders.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:07am
- Harkman
  
  And that beard makes him look bloody ugly.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:07am
  - kowtow
    
    There’s a beardy thing going on with Labour’s panty waists.
    
    Is it some sort of penis compensation thing for the Cunliffe I wish I had a vagina syndrome?
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:47am
    - Harkman
      
      “I’m sorry for being a man” that was ridiculous at the time and it hasn’t aged well.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:20am
      - sooty
        
        The beard is ment to show that they have balls. But you look at them femmanazis half of them could grow better ones!
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s the recording
  https://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20180612-0755-little_hopes_to_repeal_stupid_law_after_nz_first_scuttles-128.mp3
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:50am
  - RF
    
    What an ignorant bad tempered bastard.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:26am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Any wonder his nick name is “Angry”
      Personally I think it should be “Tantrum”
      But that doesn’t really scan.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:45am
    - calendar girl
      
      Andrew Little was as ill-mannered and grumpy as any person you’ve ever seen who has been gazumped by someone he sees as his junior partner.
      
      Wake up, Mr Little. The Old Master, alone, put together your CoL. Remember how you weren’t even told his final decision in advance of the country’s TV and radio audience? So you had better get used to the reality that he holds your destiny in his slippery hands.
      
      And do try and be a little more polite to a media interviewer who, in his interview with you, was doing his job significantly better than you were doing yours.
      
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      June 12, 2018 1:07pm
sooty

Clarkey talking shit again, a week ago he says the baby just about came. Today in stuff, “Arern confirmed that there had been no false alarms or signs of an early arrival”
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June 12, 2018 8:29am
- KevinH
  
  The first one doesn’t always arrive on time, as you probably know. She could be a few days over time, and when it happens it will be all in a rush.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:36am
  - KevOB
    
    She could be several weeks late.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:11am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      She won’t be, she’s going to be induced.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:20am
      - lifesgood
        
        Induced and an elective caesarian. That’s what the Ponsonby set do…don’t want to interfere with lunch dates, do we? Yep, she’ll be like the rest of them….. too posh to push.
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:02am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I think many places let a healthy pregnancy go 10-14 days over the due date before inducing the baby.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:12am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      She’ll be induced before the middle of next week if it hasn’t arrived by then. She said ‘I want the baby out’.
      Obviously wants to get back to work ASAP before Winnie fucks everything up.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:48am
      - ldypen
        
        I think that should be “before Winnie fucks everything up even more than its all fucked up already”
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:57am
      - starboard
        
        Out pops the baby.. oh dear, its brown. ?
        
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        June 12, 2018 1:16pm
  - VicParking
    
    Winston at the last moment might refuse his permission and she will need to wait another six weeks to give birth.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:32am
- Poppa
  
  That man is a total twat, he relishes the limelight.
  
  Just wait for all those gushing interviews with the women’s mags & photo shoots
  
  Where is my sick bag?
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:40am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Poppa, reuse your sick by swallowing it.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:51am
    - Harkman
      
      Only two days ago you were on here with scripture saying “only do good.” Your memory is terrible.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:18am
    - VicParking
      
      Not during Ramadan
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:33am
- stephieboy
  
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  sooty , didn’t you know it is not that unusual for a bay to arrive on the due date?
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:49am
  - sooty
    
    Stephie, read it again. Clarkey said one thing and his missus said he’s telling porkies.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:04am
    - sam green
      
      Why do you even care?
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:15am
  - lifesgood
    
    You are an absolute disgrace to Christianity, or at least St Albans, which I am beginning to doubt is even Christian if you’re an example. I have never heard a single kind word out of you
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:04am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I know this has been going on for some time, but I’m not comfortable with SBs identity being disclosed – or at least personal details like the church he attends.
      The Galah is entitled to his privacy, even if he doesn’t respect others.
      
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      June 12, 2018 8:22pm
- Longknives
  
  This Clarke Gayford character certainly has problems with his veracity!
  He embarrasses Labour on almost a weekly basis with his constant storytelling. (He clearly craves the attention)
  I’m astounded Labour HQ haven’t told him to simply shut the fuck up! (Be seen and not heard)
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:21am
  - RF
    
    I have been reading old articles about jack the lad. Doubt if there is a big enough porch for him to be kept on.
    
    Is he on a diet of deer velvet ?
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:35am
waikatogirl

Cindy is basing herself in Auckland from now as flying around the country at this late stage isn’t a good idea. It was announced last night that she will be attending the National Fieldays at Mystery Creek on Thursday. Watch out for the PM’s limousine heading down the Waikato Expressway.
? ?
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June 12, 2018 8:35am
- KevinH
  
  Being so close to her time, travelling in a car for a couple of hours is not a good idea. If she must travel something like an executive van would be a better idea, more comfortable.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:39am
  - waikatogirl
    
    It’s ok, there are plenty of farmers at the Fieldays to lend a hand. They’re all experienced delivering calves and lambs and the odd little pony. ?
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:59am
    - sooty
      
      Plenty of vets at the fieldays, I would have thought. Just in case!
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:05am
      - G152
        
        Some with experience of birthing old cows
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:31am
    - Harkman
      
      ? “neigh!” “neigh!”
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:11am
  - peterwn
    
    St John has just the thing – if she is prepared to hire one for the day.
    
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    June 12, 2018 2:04pm
  - Nermal
    
    What about all the radiation thrown out by electric cars. Must be bad for the baby.
    
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    June 12, 2018 5:14pm
- stephieboy
  
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  waikatogirl. I think the PMs midwife. Obstetrician and herself can manage the situation better than you.
  
  Be prepared to ditch your car when the time arrives along the Expressway.
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:45am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Wow, the PM gets her own obstetrician, does she?
    Few preggers women in NZ ever get to see one.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:15am
  - skyblue
    
    She is not far from Cambridge Stud if at the Field Days, they are well equipped to deliver a foal.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:50am
- Inandout
  
  Perhaps a suitably fitted out St Johns vehicle would be a better fit, and have a Ron Mark helicopter at the ready.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:02am
  - waikatogirl
    
    How about Cindy stay at home with her feet up while she awaits the nations baby’s arrival. Isn’t standing in for the PM exactly what a deputy PM is for? I’ve seen Winston attending the Fieldays in the past so he know’s how to get there, or at a pinch, I’m sure even Kelvin could work the GPS in his limousine and arrive in time to open the Fieldays on behalf of the COL. ?
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:11am
    - ex-golfer
      
      She obviously has very little confidence in any of her Ministers or Winston. Today she talks about having the baby induced because she wants it “out”. It must be because she is so keen to get back to running the country like a student union.
      
      It’s almost as if she is treating the baby like a commodity.
      
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      June 12, 2018 9:47am
- Paulus
  
  Nah – she will get little bald one to get her a slow helicopter from the Airforce.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:13am
- Komata
  
  Waikato
  
  Hopefully it will ‘bottom out’ at the lowest point of the gully road…
  
  (Oh dear, how sad, never mind).
  
  Pity the Coppers on duty when she and hers arrive…
  
  Perhaps we should pray for a ‘typical’ field days ‘day’; wet, cold, driving rain….?
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:23am
- rangitoto
  
  There will be plenty of vets on hand there so no problem.
  
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  June 12, 2018 3:31pm
holysheet

My wife recently sent a letter to TV 3 asking to appear on their new reality show, ‘How To Look Good Naked’. They wrote back saying she wasn’t a suitable candidate, but would she consider an appearance on ‘Scrapheap Challenge’.
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June 12, 2018 8:36am
- stephieboy
  
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  Is she that ugly and tarty ?
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:47am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Fuck you are tedious, bitchy little twat. Are you so bereft of humour and social grace that you must spend your whole life doing nothing but snipe at others about nothing? GET YOUR HAND OFF YOUR DICK AND GET A LIFE
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:41am
- Inandout
  
  Sounds like a Muslim woman in garb.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:03am
  - KevinH
    
    A story that will make Stephieboy blush with pride:
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/voices/audio/2018648578/ground-breaking-first-nz-beauty-contestant-in-hijab
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:46am
    - Jack5
      
      All part of the Muslim PR drive, Kevin. Well supported by Leftist media like Red Radio.
      
      The beauty contest the young Muslim woman’s in dropped its swimsuit section a few years ago. She wouldn’t be in the competition if she had to wear a bikini.
      
      Muslims want to change the West, not assimilate.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:05am
    - Inandout
      
      For Allah’s sake, she is showing some hair on her forehead; surely she will be whipped by an Imam.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:28am
- Komata
  
  HS
  
  And so she sent your name in and you’re awaiting a reply?
  
  (One has to ask these important questions)
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:26am
  - holysheet
    
    No I was accepted no problems at all…
    
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    June 12, 2018 1:41pm
Happychappy

Eight months into their term of a Labour led Coalition Government and promising they would reduce the road toll and the the latest figures out suggest that it is increasing. The Greens Transport Minister blamed Simon Bridges and Nationals Transport Policy for the increasing road toll and set a target of zero road deaths but it is increasing instead of reducing like promised and silence from a Government that’s promises keep failing.
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June 12, 2018 8:44am
- riffer
  
  Zero road toll is never going to work. Far better to look at reducing the road toll in terms of per capita. I’m surprised National never realised the PR benefits of that.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:32am
Soletrader

A wet good morning to you.
Did you hear Espiner grill Little on RedNZ just before 8am.
Stark difference between “off the table” and “not for a couple of years”. Little did not actually answer the 3 strikes fate question and was easily incited to hysterics.
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June 12, 2018 8:49am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Heard that and the session with chompers. Finally Guyon grows a pair and starts holding them to account. Still got dreadful spin and non answers, but he clearly got under both their skins, and thats his job. Angry could barely contain himself and came across as, well, angry. Chompers came across as delusional – “its a sign of the strength of this government that the 3S didn’t succeed”.
  
  Yes, Ive always thought abject failure was success in disguise. 😛
  
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  June 12, 2018 8:57am
  - Happychappy
    
    You only have to look at Little’s resume to see that this bill would be a failure the only plus he has on it from his Political career is his win against a person that died before the case could go to trail and he wasn’t responsible for that. Little is a walking disaster with anything involving Politics.
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:16am
    - RF
      
      Refresh my memory.
      
      Is the Pike River Mine entry still on this year ?
      
      Angry and the one who is height challenged should be putting it in their diary.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:41am
      - kowtow
        
        The entry thing is a huge con job and the media have largely played along.
        
        From the outset they were only ever going to the drift (whatever that is) and never down into the guts of the mine itself.
        
        A huge expensive PR job , largely done to make National look bad and the Labour / NZF side good.
        
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        June 12, 2018 11:49am
      - calendar girl
        
        What has the new Pike River Re-entry Ministry cost taxpayers so far?
        
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        June 12, 2018 6:50pm
Simon

Why is Trump so brilliant and so hated by MSM and the left? Recent eg Trump was late to Trudeau’s gender studies breakfeast and skipped the G7 climate change wankfeast.

It is what a normal person would do. The left hate that a normal person is prez.
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June 12, 2018 9:05am
- MCos
  
  “Why is Trump so brilliant”
  
  I suppose it depends on your perception of brilliance. Some people think Pauline Hansen is brilliant or that Colin Craig had all the answers, until he fell on his face.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:49am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    ONE simple word……”RESULTS”
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:01am
    - stephieboy
      
      RW Capitlaist ,
      
      “RESULTS” ? Like the Mexican US border wall?
      
      LOL
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:18am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Lowest unemployment
        Highest growth rate in about 10 years
        Illegal immigration is down, so when the wall (which is progressing) is finally built, it will slow illegals and drug flow to a crawl.
        Try facts dummy.
        
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        June 12, 2018 10:48am
      - pentwig
        
        proved stupid again sillyboy
        tsk, tsk,tsk
        LOL
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:08pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Lowest US unemployment rate in 18 years.
        Lowest Black unemployment rate ever.
        A signed agreement with the world’s most recalcitrant leader of a nuclear nation
        
        Not a bad start for a political newby.
        
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        June 12, 2018 6:55pm
  - kowtow
    
    The answer sure ain’t letting the third world flood our countries.
    
    ‘Matteo Salvini, Italy’s far-right interior minister, has declared victory after a standoff over the fate of 629 people on a humanitarian rescue boat prompted Spain to agree to accept them.’
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/11/un-calls-for-migrant-ship-to-be-allowed-to-dock-in-italian-port
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:51am
    - Manolo
      
      From now on Spain will be the target of many boats full of African invaders. The new socialist government,a bunch of do-gooders, has opened the floodgates.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:57am
      - kowtow
        
        Yep , easy for them to appear virtuous knowing the vast majority of the flood will move north to the rich social welfare pickings of the UK , Germany and Scandanavia.
        
        Voters there really need to wake up to their betrayal by their own political / media class and give them the arse.
        
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        June 12, 2018 12:32pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  “Why is Trump so brilliant and so hated by MSM and the left?”
  
  It’s really paranoid, isn’t it? When he stood for president I started listening to a few of his speeches and found his words were twisted and completely falsely presented by the MSM. That hasn’t stopped. If anyone wants to know what Trump actually says they need to listen to him or read what he writes, because the MSM absolutely lie about it.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:54am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Recently I visited the Tower of London. While waiting for the Beefeater to arrive to conduct the guided tour, I chatted to an American boy who looked about 12.
    When he told me “We’re here to escape Trump” I asked him if Trump had noticed he’d gone, but he didn’t stick around to answer my question.
    Misguided little smartarse.
    
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    June 12, 2018 8:32pm
Manolo

The incompetent moves behind the scenes:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/11/obama-2020-elections-sanders-warren-635165

Barack Obama has in recent months met with at least nine prospective 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden and Deval Patrick, pulling them in for one-on-one sessions at his Washington office.

All the meetings were arranged quietly, without even some close advisers to the people involved being told of the conversations, in part because of how much Obama bristles at his private meetings becoming public knowledge. All have been confirmed to POLITICO by multiple people who have been briefed on the secretive sit-downs.
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June 12, 2018 9:05am
- Harkman
  
  I hope they all run and tear each other apart.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:15am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Doubt that there a 10 candidates, with enough popularity, competence or work ethic that could COLLECTIVELY challenge Trump.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:49am
  - MCos
    
    work ethic?
    
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    June 12, 2018 9:52am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      YUP, he simply out worked HRC, visited states she refused to, won Dem. states because she didn’t even visit.
      He out worked her.
      and I don’t see anyone in the Dems either willing or able to keep up.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:00am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Even the MSM admits that he works his ass off. Apparently not interested in sitting around dining, doesn’t drink at all, just loves working on ‘the deal’. And now the deal is MAGA.
      
      One might not like him for some reason, but he doesn’t sound lazy.
      
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      June 12, 2018 10:57am
      - Ross12
        
        Yes Classic Liberal.
        If I have half the energy he has at his age , when I get to that age, I’ll be over the moon.
        
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        June 12, 2018 11:19am
EAD_TWO

Britain is truly lost.

Just look at the degenerate faggotry on display here in this video of “The boys in blue” at last weekend’s York “Pride” March.

https://www.minsterfm.com/news/local/2602984/video—police-officer-wins-the-hearts-of-the-york-pride-crowd/
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June 12, 2018 9:17am
- RF
  
  FFS I feel sick…..
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:46am
  - starboard
    
    I just vomited in my mouth..
    
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    June 12, 2018 1:25pm
- MickMac
  
  I feel for the ordinary cop in the UK.
  
  The PC top Brass and Politicians both local and National, virtue signalling all the time.
  The extra form filling and EU directives to comply with.
  Then the ferels in British society and the criminals who act as they please, all the while the cops know their bosses won’t have their back.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:17am
4077th

The pathetic, little weasel and merchant of fiction Hager granted compensation for the cops turning his gaff upside down looking for WO HDD.
FFS, I’d like to know who negotiated this and who in Labour allowed it? Pretty sure the watermelons have instigated this one.

I wonder if his seat at the table with SIS has had any influence?
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June 12, 2018 9:43am
- riffer
  
  Unlikely. I think it’s more to do with the Police not actually doing things legally. It was obvious from the start that this was not done properly. A large amount of money from the pockets of you and I into his hands was always going to be the result. Perhaps those who demanded the Police intervene should be held responsible for this too. Shameful state of affairs all round. No matter how much you dislike what somebody does, there’s no excuse for breaking the law trying to get back at them.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:35am
  - 4077th
    
    Breaking the law meaning.. Stealing someone’s data or hacking their computer system or website then using it to defame them and try to bring down a government? The situation is the same, rooting around in someone’s private stuff uninvited. Hager is no better than the cops.
    
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    June 12, 2018 1:25pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Hagar used stolen e mails. Fuck him sniveling cunt.
  
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  June 12, 2018 7:40pm
lilman

God Im sick of hearing of Jacindas Baby.
I hope they are as a family happy and healthy.
But please dont call it New Zealands Baby.
Its puke inducing.
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June 12, 2018 9:44am
- RW Capitalist
  
  “New Zealand’s baby”?
  Don’t blame me, I wouldn’t touch her with yours.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:50am
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, New Zealand’s First Bastard…
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:50am
  - RF
    
    But but but … Cindy said it’s our baby to bring up.
    
    The only thing I will be bringing up is my breakfast if I hear anymore talk about it.
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:44am
- MCos
  
  No letup on Kiwiblog either.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:20am
Fletch

A photograph that was taken moments after the one of Trump and Merkel that the media pounced on. In this one she is smiling and it looks like Trump is making a joke. The one the media showed of Trump with his arms folded and Merkel leaning over him was just a moment in time that doesn’t capture what actually happened.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1006175425691832320/photo/1
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June 12, 2018 9:50am
- RW Capitalist
  
  They’re all BEGGING him not to put tariffs on.
  Only Trudeau is dum enough to try and attack him when his back is turned.
  Trump is just saying play the game straight and I won’t (put tariffs on).
  They can’t bully him, because the collective wealth of the other 6 G7 nations is less than the USA and their economies are slipping and the US economy is growing.
  Anyway, they keep saying,”there are only losers in a trade war.
  NOT TRUE
  The winner is always the biggest player, yes they will be hurt by it, but they, if it carries on too long, will be the ONLY survivor…ie the winner.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:55am
  - Fletch
    
    ps, in a fact check that checkyourfact.com did, Trump’s tweet about Canada adding a 270% tariff on dairy is true over a certain threshold – and it’s sometimes as high as 313%.
    
    http://checkyourfact.com/2018/06/11/fact-check-canada-270-percent-tariff-dairy/
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:17am
  - lilman
    
    Trump also said “if tariffs are bad then lets lose the lot and have free trade across the board.”
    That shut them up.
    
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    June 12, 2018 12:32pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh no, Fletch.
  You are upsetting the narrative.
  
  You need to attach a warning to your post —- Not for anti-Trumpers’ eyes.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:56am
  - 4077th
    
    Right now the resident goat herder is incandescent with rage..Hopefully 🙂
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:00am
- MCos
  
  Looks like she’s demonstrating the David Seymour twerk, everyone’s amused, but Trump doesn’t understand
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:58am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Sorting the world out, one issue at a time …
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfbI81qWAAAAHKW?format=jpg
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:37am
- Classic Liberal
  
  LOL, basically the pics show that we all get to an age where we look grumpy if we’re not smiling :).
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:01am
- Komata
  
  Fletch
  
  That pic sumarises it all; Mr Trump is NOT the sort of person that Merkle et al can browbeat. He just sat there and let them make fools of themselves.
  
  There is however a point that needs to be remembered; namely that, like it or not, all those poncing Euro-politicians are really only there because of the US military.
  
  Call the US armed forces in Europe home and their tone will rapidly change. The ‘Bear’ is still only a few hundred miles to the East,and if Uncle Sam wasn’t in residence, Ivan would have no qualms about moving west.
  
  Merkel et al know this, but still indulge in their silly games.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:36am
- kowtow
  
  They did the same thing when he met the Pope.
  
  The media deliberately chose one photo where the Pope looked pissed off . Then pushed that real hard.
  
  These media fuckers create fake news, spin, slant, hide , deflect.
  
  Is it any wonder they are so distrusted , and they still don’t get it.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:56am
- Nermal
  
  This one doesn’t suit the narrative
  
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  June 12, 2018 5:22pm
Fletch

Dinesh D’Souza has another documentary film coming out in which he makes the point that there’s somewhat of a similarity between Trump and Lincoln –

D’Souza told the Hollywood Reporter, a far-left entertainment outlet, that his movie “draws a provocative analogy between Lincoln and Trump. Not that they’re the same people, but that they’ve fallen into the same situation.”

“Not since 1865 have Democrats so dramatically refused to accept the outcome of a presidential election,” he adds.

He is correct on that point. America is tearing itself apart because Dems hate Trump and won’t accept him.
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June 12, 2018 9:54am
- MCos
  
  Next movie will show Trump ascending to heaven in a coal fired fiery chariot.
  That pastor with the six personal jets will take up a collection to fund to chariot, which will be reusable and if you give a billion dollars he’ll arrange for you to be likewise whisked up into the clouds.
  There you will be met by God and twice as many virgins as those ISIS suicide bombers ever dreamed of . . . .
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:10am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Fletch,
  
  “..somewhat of a similarity between Trump and Lincoln”
  
  A Dinesh parody?
  
  Fletch , source also will be useful and if not unsurpisng
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:20am
  - Fletch
    
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dinesh-dsouza-compare-trump-lincoln-upcoming-film-1118718?utm_source=twitter
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:24am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Hey SoB: all I had to do was search ‘D’Souza told the Hollywood Reporter’ and it popped up. Learn to use the internet.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:04am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s difficult to break out of a life-time habit of getting others to do everything for you.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:21am
  - lilman
    
    What the difference between Stephie and a sheep?
    
    The sheep wouldnt fuck stephie if it had the choice.
    
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    June 12, 2018 12:34pm
- MickMac
  
  also they lost.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:18am
lifesgood

How long has fisher boy been with our illustrious PM. Isn’t it 3 years until you get half? She’s on a mighty good salary now and has an expensive house. Just saying.
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June 12, 2018 10:08am
- Longknives
  
  Christ can you imagine the Court battle when it all falls apart?
  They have both told so many conflicting stories about where and when they got together…
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:15am
- RF
  
  Have been reading an article in the NZ Woman’s weekly dated June 2012 where the fisherman and Shavaughn Ruakere discuss their life as the happy couple.
  
  They live together and in his words… ” For me she’s the whole package.”
  
  Could swear I have heard him use that line on someone else.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:59am
  - Longknives
    
    RF
    Talking about the Gayford person and using words like “packages” and “lines” will have his Lawyers phoning you quicker than a Womans Day journo chasing a baby pic!
    Expect Ardern’s private henchman Mike Bush to come knocking on your door sometime soon too mate…
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:34am
  - Komata
    
    RF
    
    ‘Rewind, then press play’.
    
    Same message…
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:39am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Breaking News ,

Police to compensate Hager over Dirty Politics raid

Police have apologised to investigative journalist Nicky Hager for breaching his rights during their 2014 investigation into his book Dirty Politics.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/359395/police-to-compensate-hager-over-dirty-politics-raid

The compensation is said to be significant and substantial.

Another Jacinda Winston conspiracy in the making?
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June 12, 2018 10:21am
- Harkman
  
  Hager should be in jail.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:27am
- srylands
  
  Whatever. The guy used stolen material to write a work of fiction. He is no journalist.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:41am
  - KevOB
    
    What rights have been breached? Hager published material that he knew had been illegally obtained or gave credence to that opinion. He didn’t originate the material that others claim was their property. He made money from the sale of it. Don’t the Police have a duty to enforce inquiries in those circumstances? Is possible theft and passing it on now covered by journalistic privilege?
    
    Hager should be stripped of his improper gains not enriched further.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:18am
    - riffer
      
      Oh bollocks. Police have to follow the law even more than the citizenry. They stuffed up. Now we have to pay. End of.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:37am
      - KevOB
        
        Define stuff up in these circumstances. The Police frightened and annoyed Hager? So? That’s the fate of anyone turned over by the Police on suspicion. Property got damaged? Normal in Police raids using reasonable force. Police arrived before dawn? Common practice so that evidence is undisturbed.
        
        Hager put himself in jeopardy by not respecting other peoples’ property rights. He put his ability to make money from publishing emails, from a source that had to have obtained them unlawfully either by theft or receiving them, against common decency and the law. The source cannot claim he did not know where they came from–the source knew he did not originate them. Hager does not claim that the source originated them either.
        
        Why ~~is Hager not being~~ has Hager not been prosecuted?
        
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        June 12, 2018 2:21pm
- Nermal
  
  What about Hager compensating Cameron Slater for breaching his rights?
  
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  June 12, 2018 5:25pm
Manolo

Would our own stephieboy approve? 🙂
https://variety.com/2018/legit/news/robert-de-niro-trump-tonys-1202839957/

Robert De Niro had a few choice words for President Donald Trump while the legendary actor was on stage at Sunday’s Tony Awards to introduce Bruce Springsteen’s musical performance.

“I’m going to say one thing, F— Trump,” De Niro said while pumping his fists in the air. “It’s no longer ‘Down with Trump.’ It’s f— Trump.”
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June 12, 2018 10:34am
- Longknives
  
  How about New Zealand’s ‘beloved’ Taiki Waititi promoting his upcoming film by posing in front of a picture of Hitler, Giving him the finger, and saying ‘Fuck Shitler’?
  
  http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/jojo-rabbit-taika-waititi-adolf-hitler-photo-1201973380/
  
  Honestly- Is this Waititi character 11 years old??
  I don’t remember Coppola or Speilberg promoting their WW2 films like this…
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:46am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Sorry De Niro, I think Trump is hetero and he has a beautiful wife. You’re not needed.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:07am
  - KevinH
    
    De Niro is making a fool of himself by using his public appearances to use abusive language to describe Trump. It makes him look like a loser.
    The fact is Trumps approval rating is up:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics/trump-approval-rise/index.html
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:17am
    - Cobolt24
      
      Yikes, and that’s a CNN news story.
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:38am
    - Fletch
      
      Trump’s approval rating is higher than Obama’s and Reagan’s at the same time in his term.
      
      On June 9, 2010 Barack Obama’s approval number was 46% on the Rasmussen poll.
      President Trump’s approval number is at 47% according to Rasmussen today.
      
      http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
      
      http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
      
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      June 12, 2018 12:39pm
- marcw
  
  De Niro should just fo along with all his other drug addled wanker friends eg Johnny Depp. They really are yesterday’s losers.
  
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  June 12, 2018 1:28pm
- ldypen
  
  Where have all the Actors that said they would leave the USA if Trump became president gone to.. what countries… anyone got a list?… surely they weren’t talking crap were they?
  
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  June 12, 2018 1:35pm
Manolo

An important economic week:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-10/brace-for-the-world-economy-s-most-important-week-of-the-year

That’s what Bank of America Corp. strategists asked clients in a report ahead of five days of presidential standoffs, trade tensions and central bank meetings.

Each carries the potential to propel financial markets and shape the outlook for global growth after signs it slowed in the first quarter.
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June 12, 2018 10:46am
- rightoverlabour
  
  look at the stocks on the bbc. all up
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:12pm
Keeping Stock

Andrew Little on Three Strikes, 1 November 2017:

New Justice Minister Andrew Little will scrap the controversial three strikes law, reports Newshub political editor Patrick Gower.

The law means third-time serious offenders get the maximum sentence with no chance of parole.

Appearing on the AM Show on Wednesday, Gower said Mr Little was determined to cut policies he doesn’t like.

“Three strikes – that thing’s gone,” Gower told host Duncan Garner.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/10/justice-minister-andrew-little-to-repeal-three-strikes-law.html

Andrew Little on the repeal of Three Strikes, 31 May 2018:

The Justice Minister is signalling a more rehabilitative approach in the prison system.

The Government’s expected to drop the three strikes law in ten days’ time.

Justice Minister Andrew Little will also push for sentences shorter than two years to be served as home detention.

He told Mike Hosking 70 per cent of prisoners in New Zealand re-offend within two years of getting out, compared to the Netherlands, where it’s 29 per cent.

“Because they just have a different approach. They keep people occupied. The people who can be fixed and can be taught skills are taught skills. They are given productive things to do.”

Little says we dump people out there and wonder why so many of them are back in prison within a couple of years.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/andrew-little-government-looking-to-drop-three-strikes-law/

Little had SEVEN MONTHS to shore up support for the repeal, but as we saw yesterday, failed dismally. I hope National rips in to him this afternoon when the House resumes after its latest recess.
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June 12, 2018 11:04am
- KevOB
  
  Perhaps the prisoners in the Netherlands are brighter than our inmates. Some mentally ill in NZ are given alternative accommodation there too. Expect very violent offending in NZ high security prisons. Inmates have to defend themselves in that society.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:25am
  - Longknives
    
    Not quite as many Maori or Pacific Island Gangs in the Netherlands either.
    *I wish someone would have the balls to point this out to Little and Co..
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:28am
    - stigie
      
      Oh no Longknives, christ point that out to Angry and you become a racist prick, can’t have that in NZ !~
      
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      June 12, 2018 1:35pm
    - Nermal
      
      The Turkish/Moroccan population is less than our Polynesian population
      
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      June 12, 2018 5:30pm
cmm

10am Red Radio

Little still banging on that he’s moving ahead with his mission against 3S and will roll it into a package of other reforms.

Jacinda saying that 3S talk is now off the table for at least a few years.

So what’s it kids? Please decide.
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June 12, 2018 11:19am
- Brigitte
  
  I think it depends on whether they meet all the requirements in the thirty-something page secret coalition document that doesn’t exist.
  
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  June 12, 2018 11:51am
kowtow

Thanks Angela.

Another girl murdered in Germany.

Note how their “progressive” media make it about the honest AfD.

‘The far-right Alternative for Germany was quick to flag news of the attack, sarcastically tweeting “another one-off incident,” in reference to a murder by an Iraqi last week.’

http://www.dw.com/en/teenage-girl-stabbed-to-death-in-park-in-viersen-germany/a-44162029
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June 12, 2018 12:04pm
MH

A new definition for Maori disgruntled activists has been issued: A person of pleasant dispossession.

no macron has been used as its a symbol of repressive post colonisation posing as condescension.
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June 12, 2018 12:11pm
MrTips

If we’re not supposed to talk about it Jacinda, then why do you keep assisting the media in pushing it?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104638543/it-was-a-police-decision-to-clear-clarke-gayfords-name-after-rumours

Hidden embers burn the most dangerously.
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June 12, 2018 12:33pm
- Longknives
  
  Does anyone on the Planet actually believe that nonsense? That Police just decided ‘off their own bat’ to try to shut down rumours about an individual (Who just happens to live with the Prime Minister)?
  
  *Besides- There are more holes in that Stuff story than Swiss Cheese. Did Nash know about it or not? (The story seems to contradict itself)
  
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  June 12, 2018 12:54pm
- greybeard
  
  “Mr Gayford is not and has not been the subject of any police inquiry, nor has he been charged in relation to any matter,” it said.
  
  This is not quite the same as saying that Gayford is actually innocent of the accusations, is it ?
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:19pm
  - sooty
    
    So the rumors continue!
    
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    June 12, 2018 2:49pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  What Rumours? How fucking stupid. Just when everyone has probably forgotten, let’s just remind them. SLG – Could we have list of the rumours please? We would hate to start new ones and then have to have the police shut those down as well…. Muppetts.
  
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  June 12, 2018 3:29pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Any idea why Labour have sacked Prof Sir Peter Gluckman as chief science advisor ? Guess he must have disagreed with her majesty the mule toothed communist, or his highness the poison dwarf ? And replacing him with an ex-pat UK nut job……suppose one way to ensure you get the independent advice you actually want to get….echo chamber anyone ?
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June 12, 2018 12:35pm
- MrTips
  
  I think Peter signaled his intention to leave. And Juliet isn’t a nut-job – she’s just over-rated imo. I can think of several female scientists in NZ whom I would rate over her. How she does the job? We shall see.
  
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  June 12, 2018 12:43pm
  - lifesgood
    
    She must be an ardent lefty, then. What puzzles me is the number of people in P affected houses who were claiming a host of illnesses. Have the illnesses suddenly disappeared because Gluckman says so? Were they lying? Can they prove they were ill, i.e. medical notes etc? Can they prove their health improved after moving out? This whole reversal stinks if you ask me, there is much more to it than we’ve been told. Anyway Gluckman didn’t say there was no danger, he just said there was no proof of any danger,,,,quite different. I for one would never live in a P infected house, whatever way they like to spin it. Methinks Gluckman was strong armed so that Twyford’s total failure wouldn’t be so obvious and he could start moving some poor suckers into those houses.
    
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    June 12, 2018 1:18pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You should really think about systematically collecting your anecdata and publishing it somewhere we can all have a good laugh,.
      
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      June 12, 2018 2:05pm
      - Jack5
        
        You are grumpy in your latest incarnation, Milky.
        
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        June 12, 2018 6:47pm
cmm

National have been reasonably slow to call out Jacinda on the complete cock up of her clowns.

Perhaps there is some cunningness to this. Perhaps they have been building up a big stack of the most embarrassing questions.

If they then ask these of, and via, Winston Peters instead of Jacinda it will cause a whole lot more embarrassment to both of them, while increasing the friction between them.
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June 12, 2018 12:39pm
chiz

There’s paranoid, and then there’s paranoid:

[…]
The North Korean leader is said to always travel with several toilets, including one in his Mercedes.
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June 12, 2018 12:54pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  No word yet on whether he also has a team to tape together the papers he rips up?
  
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  June 12, 2018 1:12pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Like Charles, Fuck I’d tug a toilet along with me so the boys couldn’t piss on the seat.
  
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  June 12, 2018 1:13pm
cha

First image of an historic private meeting…..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfdApuIU8AEMeSW.jpg
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June 12, 2018 1:48pm
- calendar girl
  
  What’s the bet that Kim Jong Un receives the next Nobel Peace Prize? (Nothing for Donald Trump, of course.)
  
  [Remember that Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Barack Obama, a few months after his Presidential Inauguration? Obama had achieved nothing of note by then, and he kept up that splendid record over his full 8-year tenure.]
  
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  June 12, 2018 7:54pm
Manolo

Can anyone imagine the cries of joy, the praising of the United States from the MSM if Mr Obama were behind this meeting with North Korea? But no, it is President Trump so it must be bad.
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June 12, 2018 1:52pm
Jack5

The petals don’t like little Prince George playing with a toy gun. How terrible, Britain might get another warrior king.

The way crime is soaring in Britain with knife and acid wielding scooter gangs, private ownership of pistols should be first, legalised, then encouraged.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5830033/Royal-backlash-Prince-George-spotted-toy-gun-polo-day-out.html
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June 12, 2018 1:53pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Britain needs a warrior king more than ever. Another King Edward I to bestride the kingdom and expel Britain’s adversaries.
  
  I had high hopes for Harry growing up but he turned out to be Prince of the race mixers
  
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  June 12, 2018 3:47pm
  - Nermal
    
    You had me until your bigotry burned through
    
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    June 12, 2018 5:34pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Bigotry?
      
      You have let the language and thought process of the Social Justice Warrior destroy your sensibilities.
      
      This meme encapsulates succinctly why I’m against race mixing:
      
      http://i.imgur.com/ct1uc.jpg
      
      All is race; there is no other truth ,and every race must fall which carelessly suffers its blood to become mixed. – Benjamin Disraeli
      
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      June 12, 2018 6:24pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Nermal
      EAD was just being comical with his reference to Edward I – who was the opposite of British in his devotion to achieving English supremacy over fellow Britons such as the Welsh and Scots.
      
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      June 12, 2018 6:36pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Most importantly, Edward I issued the Edict of Expulsion in July 1290 and set Britain free
        
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        June 12, 2018 6:40pm
- Fletch
  
  Plus, George will probably follow in his father’s footsteps and join some section of the armed forces. Is that OK?
  
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  June 12, 2018 4:48pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  What a crock of balderdash.
  Prince George is surrounded by people toting guns.
  Have none of these moaners seen the red soldiers outside his great-granny’s house?
  He’s a little boy playing with a toy. Leave him alone.
  
  “Those who don’t believe in magic will never find it” Roald Dahl
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:34pm
rightoverlabour

why is there no separate post on possibly the single most important meeting since the Korean war?

Looks like its going well….

Haters are going to be so disappointed…
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June 12, 2018 2:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  rightoverlabour, MSM Independent is right up with the play .
  The meeting is just a preliminary for many more meetings and negotiations (horse trading )
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/trump-kim-meeting-live-updates-latest-time-date-location-stream-a8392686.html
  
  The President is no wonder worker as you and other Trumpeters tend to believe.
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:13pm
- KevinH
  
  David has marked the occassion by posting a caption competition which will dispel any doubt as to his view of the meeting.
  Regardless of that, today was history in the making and will be recorded as a moment in time when a conflict that began in the 1950’s is now drawing to a close.
  Kim Jong un deserves credit for initiating this meeting, to meet with President Trump, to explore the possible denuclearisation of North Korea and to begin the process of North Korea joining the global community.
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:58pm
Monique Watson

Fark, he’s fucking done it! Accomplished
de-nuculearisation.
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June 12, 2018 2:10pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  link? I am watching BBC. who has reasonable coverage, where was this stated. Thanks and
  Cheers
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:15pm
- stephieboy
  
  Monique Watson, not so. It is a discussion and negotiating point with a long, long way to go.
  
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  June 12, 2018 2:16pm
  - Monique Watson
    
    Haha, three aircraft carriers and the French with one. Knew he was farked and turned tail after the “informal discussion”.
    
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    June 12, 2018 2:33pm
    - Monique Watson
      
      And now the aircraft carriers are headed back to Red China Seas.
      
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      June 12, 2018 2:35pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Are you always so ill-informed?
        Or just drunk again?
        
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        June 12, 2018 6:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Polio back in Venezuela.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/11/health/venezuela-polio-who/index.html

What a disaster!
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June 12, 2018 3:15pm
softail 1450

Simon Bridges is just the wrong person to lead national, the POS peters dismantled him this afternoon in the big house in wellington,
Simon is just to nice to take on the shite in the C O L.
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June 12, 2018 3:16pm
- Inandout
  
  I just watched the exchange and I am afraid I have to agree with you. Simon came across as a pussy.
  
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  June 12, 2018 3:51pm
  - stigie
    
    Doesn’t matter who is asking the questions, all you get is smarmy fucking answers coming from Winston who turns to his support mob for a giggle and fucking Mallard taking the heat off him !~
    
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    June 12, 2018 5:12pm
    - niggly
      
      Fully agree, Winnie was acting like a smartass and even wasn’t answering questions at times, but got away with it because the Duck ran interference.
      
      I don’t see the point in Bridges getting angry as some here suggest, all that will achieve is Winnie staying calm and claim the upper hand (Winnie the sly fox is too experienced to fall for that trick).
      
      On the Hansard record, it will be recorded that Bridges is asking quite pointed questions, but Peters is deflecting and making a mockery of his role in answering for the Govt.
      
      As per some of his QT answers to Bridges, and as now also noted in this NZ Herald article, Peters has done a back-flip in terms of Little/Labour and NZ First’s positioning on the 3 strikes issue and although Winnie is congratulating himself on pulling off yet another example of Orwellian double-speak in front of the MSM, the likes of Hansard will record his duplicity for posterity.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=12069205&ref=twitter
      
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      June 12, 2018 6:29pm
- starboard
  
  Agree, I watched it over here in Thailand, too soft.
  Brownlee would tear Peters a new arsehole, however I’m picking Mitchell or Bennett to be effective leaders. Bridges needs to be banging on the desk and screaming at those tards opposite.
  
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  June 12, 2018 5:01pm
Inandout

OMG, OMG the Prince has a gun.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/photos-of-prince-george-playing-with-toy-gun-cause-controversy/news-story/db23d7dec6e9a9015b7670a9ddbf0532

Come on warriors, put an end to this.
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June 12, 2018 3:18pm
- lifesgood
  
  A flipping pop gun for God’s sake!
  
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  June 12, 2018 6:43pm
UpandComer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5820971/Germany-set-make-educational-state-funded-feminist-pornography-combat-sexist-stereotypes.html

The Germans technowahmen are going to create state funded pornography where the women penetrate the men with a big strap on – as a metaphor for what they’re doing to Germany proper. Can’t wait. Those 11 year olds are really going to be enriched. There will also be gay sex and trannie sex included in the package.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa/trump-says-summit-is-very-very-good-kim-calls-it-prelude-to-peace-idUSKBN1J72PM

Here is perhaps one reason why Trump backed out of the crypto-pedo’s join communique for the retainment of the Soviet Union of the the European Union – note that soon linking to this will be taxed:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa/trump-says-summit-is-very-very-good-kim-calls-it-prelude-to-peace-idUSKBN1J72PM

“Advancing Gender Equality and Women’s Empowerment”

“…We endorse the Charlevoix commitment to end Gender-Based Violence, Abuse and Harrassment in Digital Contexts”. Great, let’s look at this commitment:

https://g7.gc.ca/en/official-documents/charlevoix-commitment-end-sexual-gender-based-violence-abuse-harassment-digital-contexts/
“Charlevoix Commitment to end Gender Based Violence, Abuse and Harrassment in ‘Digital Contexts’

“1. Promote legal regimes, national anti-violence strategies, educational approaches and existing mechanisms, as appropriate, that keep pace with technological development”.

“9. Coordinate efforts and share best practices on preventing the misuse of the internet to facilitate trafficking in persons, recognizing that girls and women make up the majority of victims and survivors of trafficking for sexual exploitation”.

Number 9 cracks me up because the Dutroux affair and the ongoing debacle in the UK around Jimmy Savile and Mark Price at the BBC and the million rape victims shows this directive must be some form of post modern irony. They’re never going to arrest themselves.

“10. Support removing gender biases in the development of digital platforms and connected technologies from design to end-use”.

> Because if all the developers are women and the piece of shit doesn’t work, that means that no one can use it to abuse wahmen right?

So in other words, used ‘gender violence’ just like diversity, to make it illegal to stop your kid cutting it’s penis off and turning itself into a trannie.

It’s almost a shame that Europe is going to have to be subject to reconquista, not just from it’s muslim rapefugees, their ‘jesuismuslim’ facilitators, but also from it’s insane women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24sMgehu0Mw

It doesn’t matter how the pendulum turns, whether it’s secular, whether it’s a religious upswing.

But this female led degeneracy and stupidity is going to stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRp8WeT0SZI

Time to stop listening to idiot women. Clock is ticking. And this is the timeline where the good guys win. Because if it’s white Sharia, best understand that the men of Europe will be taking recompense for the sins of their women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8

Might not be so bad being muslim. Complete and total male supremacy. I’m sure that none of these men watching their country be destroyed, their daughters raped, and their sons emasculated and showed state funded trannie and gay gang bangs are going to wreak vengeance on the women who allowed it. Totally sure.
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June 12, 2018 4:21pm
softail 1450

FFS, anybody that is surprised that KIM is cowing down is a pathetic liberal,
The american economy is twice that of the filthy chinese ‘dodgy”economy ,and the same size as the whole of the the EU
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June 12, 2018 4:52pm
starboard

Another feral native goes back to jail..only been out 3 months, mongrel cnut.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104635349/man-jailed-after-violently-abducting-woman-in-central-auckland
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June 12, 2018 5:35pm
- Longknives
  
  Jacinda and Andy would have him released immediately!
  Never mind the Collateral Damage- Potentially your wife and kids..
  It’s all for the ‘Greater Good’ you know? (Jacinda’s Dream Job at the United Nations- Joy!)
  
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  June 12, 2018 6:00pm
  - starboard
    
    Shes like a Klarkula clone but with better teeth.
    
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    June 12, 2018 6:08pm
    - lifesgood
      
      but with bigger teeth, you mean.
      
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      June 12, 2018 6:44pm
      - RF
        
        Must admit Cindys airbrushed photos look better than Clark’s.
        
        Teeth look almost normal.
        
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        June 12, 2018 9:18pm
    - sam green
      
      Starboard reminds me of Steptoe – the elder …
      
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      June 12, 2018 11:42pm
- kowtow
  
  These cases are very disturbing and our pollies and judges are not doing their duty to protect the public from them.
  
  ‘He noted a pattern of serious offending, and the harm caused was serious and Adams’ likelihood of reoffending was high.’
  
  So why didn’t he send him away for a hell of a lot longer?
  
  This is a betrayal by the ruling elites.
  
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  June 12, 2018 6:57pm
UpandComer

Related.

Here was Sinead O’Connor when she was younger:

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/116882552799167346

This is what was done to Sinead O’Connor by her mother and other women when she was little – a demonstration of how all leftist orientations and identities are based in trauma:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktw8DSU5g30

Here is Sinead O’Connor now, after trying to resolve the abuse she suffered from females through feminism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=919ip9_urEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSjvLG7IJAI

Here is Sinead singing Danny boy, the best rendition I’ve heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouqhCtIh2g

Singing Molly Malone.

She was a goddess, probably one of the most talented performers ever, who got ruined by abuse and then turned into a dessicated unmoored uglified husk by feminism.

Don’t let your daughters anywhere near the feminvirus.

This is basically what has been done to Ireland.
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June 12, 2018 5:45pm
- Longknives
  
  Sinead was a phenomenal singer but she has always been very troubled because of her childhood abuse.
  Angry old Lezzers (Femnazis!)are a Cancer..
  
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  June 12, 2018 5:57pm
- lifesgood
  
  Sadly Sinead is mentally ill. I think you can take most of what she says with a grain of salt. Glorious voice, though.
  
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  June 12, 2018 6:46pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Arguably the greatest live performance I’ve ever seen (albeit via YouTube) was Sinead and Roger Waters singing Pink Floyd’s Mother in Berlin in 1990:
  
  https://youtu.be/4bMCCPubHhI
  
  Hauntingly beautiful
  
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  June 12, 2018 7:03pm
nasska

We are privileged to live in the same country where the “Herald” is published.// Today’s meeting in Singapore represents a momentous opportunity for peace in the North Pacific & gives hope that NK people could join the 21st Century.

We could have expected an editorial article praising the participants & explaining the forces at play. But the “Herald” cut right to the heart of the matter:

…..”lunch began Tuesday with a prawn cocktail and avocado salad, and green mango kerabu with honey lime dressing and octopus.

Side dishes included potato dauphinois, steamed broccolini, fried rice and Asian vegetables.”…..

Amazing! Their unawareness is absolutely amazing!
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June 12, 2018 6:03pm
- Ross12
  
  Truly amazing nasska.
  The anti Trump rhetoric from the NZ MSM never ends. In the USA, where it is usually much higher, even some Democrats were openly supporting Trump on this meeting.
  I just heard Soper speculating on what is in the document that they signed suggesting it was to officially end the Korean War —what was it that Nth Korea and South Korea signed a month or so ago?
  Sounds as if the first meeting went well and lets hope the many subsequent meetings goes as well and produce a real result.
  
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  June 12, 2018 6:18pm
  - nasska
    
    “If President Trump could actually cure cancer, make people in wheelchairs walk, give everyone a million dollars, if he could prevent heart attacks or stop car accidents, the media still wouldn’t be happy,”
    
    Fox News host Sean Hannity.
    
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    June 12, 2018 6:22pm
    - kowtow
      
      Someone else put it like this
      
      Trump cures cancer , makes tens of thousands of doctors and nurses unemployed.
      
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      June 12, 2018 6:51pm
  - kowtow
    
    I notice a change in the media’s coverage of the Loon Kim, up to now in their reports of the Trump/Kim relationship there has been practically no real coverage of or the context of the evil regime and how it operates.It’s all been covered like a personal duel between the two egos.
    
    Trump shakes his hand and now the media suddenly start reporting about how repressive North Korea is! As if to say / imply , hey Trump coseys up to tyrant.
    
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    June 12, 2018 6:49pm
RF

Just had the misfortune to watch todays question time.

Peters who obviously has the same speech coach as Steve Hansen was virtually impossible to understand.

The speaker was true to form and allowed Peters to run parliament with a few half hearted “orders”. It was pointless National turning up as Simon was ignored.

Both Labour and NZ First were in full damage control over the 3 strikes so they are very worried.

What a sorry sack of shit we have for a Govt.
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June 12, 2018 6:57pm
- stigie
  
  What a sorry sack of obfuscating shit we have as deputy prime minister !~
  
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  June 12, 2018 7:15pm
Tauhei Notts

A few months ago, on my mate’s farm, I saw a ewe defaecate on a loose cow pat and the ball of excrement ran down hill. It was a slimeball. That slimeball reminded me of Hager. It was repulsive.
But today I read about the police’s apology to the slimeball. It was sobering reading.
Nobody, not even a cock sucking slimeball, should have been subject to the police’s despicable search tactics for which they will now spend megabucks in taxpayers’ dollars in damages.
The story moved me. I went to the cenotaph, bowed my head, and said “you fellows did not die in vain.” No civilisation could ever subject a citizen to the dreadful unwarranted search tactics inflicted on Hager, even though that slimeball is the lowest species of mankind.
If the apology had not come the man who would supply our police with brown shirts, to replace their present uniform, would make quite a few dollars.
Our’s is not a police state. Rejoice, even though the beneficiary of this decision is a prize cnut.
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June 12, 2018 7:06pm
- kowtow
  
  If you look up what the police did to Richard Lincoln you may have cause to rethink that.
  
  https://www.docdroid.net/REFOekz/decision.pdf
  
  I think Hagar got the apology cos he’s so high profile. Not so the mere Plebs .
  
  Very frightening.
  
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  June 12, 2018 7:55pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Kow Tow,
    Your response is one of the reasons that this is the best blog on the net.
    Whenever somebody brings up an important case, somebody else brings another pertinent matter to our attention. Thank you.
    By the way, you don’t think Nikki Hager is my best mate, do you?
    
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    June 12, 2018 10:06pm
starboard

Council getting involved in the airline business
Unbelivable…how about you stick to your knitting instead.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104643369/kpiti-coast-district-council-to-consider-funding-private-airline
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June 12, 2018 9:09pm
- sooty
  
  Idiots and the ratepayers money are easly parted.
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:38pm
  - GazzaW
    
    What the fuck would make a bunch of hick councillors think that they can run a profitable operation if Air NZ couldn’t make a go of it?
    
    I believe Air Chathams are keen to operate the service so let them do it. They are smart operators.
    
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    June 12, 2018 11:39pm
pejhay

Just saw the following on Stuff’d…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104651548/overseas-investment-for-otakiri-springs-bottling-giant-approved-in-principle

How does that fit with the multi-headed CoL, who railed against foreign investment…?
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June 12, 2018 9:10pm
- Jack5
  
  Foreign investment can greatly benefit a country, but permitting Chinese (or other foreigners) take our water like this is a colonial sell-out.
  
  Taking water from the ground and bottling it as the bottom of the scale of “value added”.
  
  To fill the unskilled jobs, the Chinese will no doubt want low-wage Asian immigrants.
  
  Our politicians are turning New Zealanders into serfs. They have sold us out. Many voters likely thought NZ First might have opposed such deals.
  
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  June 12, 2018 9:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,
Phil’s not popular.
Auckland councillors pen letter of no confidence in Mayor Phil Goff
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12069372
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June 12, 2018 9:46pm
- sooty
  
  Fhil of Shit, who would have thought. Butter would not melt in his mouth. He would never spit on our soldiers, nor throw paint at them. Cuddle terrorist. Resign wanker!
  
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  June 12, 2018 10:36pm
Monique Watson

Liar. Wrong-burgers, You are actually are a bad guy:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12069103

The kind that deals in someone thinking, “oh you just need a chance, when you’re actually a baby alligator.
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June 13, 2018 12:38am
Monique Watson

And: Under the headline :”Sugar tax looms.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104642064/pm-jacinda-ardern-announces-new-science-advisor
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June 13, 2018 3:45am
Monique Watson

Where’s GD today?
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June 13, 2018 9:22am
EAD_TWO

A must read on Ron Unz:

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/06/08/ron-unz-defender-truth-paul-craig-roberts/
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June 13, 2018 9:30am
EAD_TWO

Good read in The Times of Israel:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31835.htm
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