General Debate 7 May 2018

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Monique Watson

I wonder which industry Cruella de Vil and the Coalition of Clowns is going to hammer today? Hillary speaking on a Monday night shows our relative importance. Couldn’t even time it for a Tues for Wednesdays papers. Smacks of: “Doesn’t give a toss”, but will try anything to get some oxygen back home.
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May 7, 2018 8:03am
- hullkiwi
  
  Monique it is farming. In particular intensive dairy farming. Parker is formulating policy on the hoof, before knowing the consequences. Talking about stock management, in order to manage nitrate & phosphate run off in waterways.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:07am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Farmers are already doing that, they are fencing waterways, have been for years, that is a practical solution that is working.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:12am
    - cmm
      
      Water quality has improved in the last ten years even as stock numbers have gone up.
      
      Something’s working without excessive interference, so time for inexperienced student politicians to step in and fuck things up.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:19am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Correct. Land, Air, Water Aotearoa (LAWA) put out a report less than a month ago that showed that more rivers had improved in quality in the last 10 years.
        
        https://www.lawa.org.nz/get-involved/news-and-stories/national-news/2018/april/new-zealand-river-water-quality-trends-show-cause-for-optimism/
        
        Oddly, we heard very little of that during last year’s election campaign, where one could have been forgiven for thinking our rivers resembled the Ganges.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:25am
      - oldpark
        
        @cm 8.19am
        Yet i heard a person running a talkback show on Newstalk ZB Putting the verbal boot into the Dairy Farmers and supporting the vile David Parker with her .Her comments were even more vitriol than Parkers.
        The same person who got dumped from TV3 for going off at the mouth has now re-appeared on NewstalkZB.
        That radio channel owned by NZME might take an advertising hit if the type of manure comments coming out of the mouth of the person known as HDPA against the Dairy Farmers is anything to go on ,will not be a good look on their balance sheets.
        HDPA who lives in a multi million dollar property in Wellingtons Oriental Bay sounds like the NZs farming community are virtually eco terrorists,is an indictment of what happens when someone like her is allowed to speak so much shit and lies and gets away with such dirty mouth comments.
        If that happened in France .It would not be long if Comments like HDPA was broadcasting, were acted on her desire to rid NZs of Many Dairy cowsand their poos,a few truck loads of poos could be delivered to her address with the Farming Communities Compliments.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:34am
      - Justitia
        
        It’s Auckland harbour that now stinks like a sewer after a downpour. Not many cows there. Lots of politicians though.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:52am
      - Ross12
        
        oldpark
        I heard HDPA reading out some texts earlier. One said towns/cities polluted rivers as well. She said bollocks, dairy farms are much worse .
        Well perhaps HDPA can explain the numerous “don’t swim” warnings and closed beaches around Auckland over the summer. Are there dairy farms in Queen St now?
        Interesting how dairy farms are the target and no mention of other farms.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:36am
      - Piniwi
        
        Sorry KS hit report as no reply button. Perhaps it lost it’s significance since there was confusion in the name that should be Land, Air, Water, New Zealand. LAWNZ.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:14pm
    - sooty
      
      Yer, but rember the feelz. It’s all about the feelz.
      He feelz good in his incontinence pants.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:21am
    - Chris R
      
      Jacinda has been sounding-off about youth suicide for months. Youth suicide is a tragedy but what about the higher rates of suicide amongst farmers? Farmers are lashed by townies and the idiot Greens on more or less a daily basis and somehow Jacinda remains silent. The burdens of running a farm are huge and demanding, without pig-ignorant enviro-loons and politicans mouthing off about how bad all farmers are. This level of negativity must compound to weaken farmers’ morale and sense of place in NZ society.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:19am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Correct Chris R.
        And, unfortunately, the National Party cynically bought in to a lot of the false, anti farmer hysteria before the election and has been very quite about it since.
        There is no consistent, trust worthy political party that supports land based industries or the people who work in them.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:32am
      - kaykaybee
        
        There will be not a shred of sympathy, not a single thought spared for farmers. They’re generations removed from the land and have no feel for it. They’ve rarely seen a sunrise, never nursed a lamb or calf back from the brink or sat with an accountant trying to juggle the figures to just get through the quarter.
        
        We also need to remember at all times that there is virtually not a one within this coalition who understands the “market” or the private sector. They are statists to the core, have no idea what it’s like to put yourself and your family’s future on the line. No idea about the business of risk. They have never stood in our shoes, let alone a cow dung. They’re as ignorant as it’s possible to be.
        
        Grey Lynn is running the country now
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:40am
      - RF
        
        There are farms in our area that will be in serious trouble if Labour bring in their restrictions. These are farms that have been in the family for years.
        
        I pray that the families receive support and don’t get pushed to the brink where suicide is the only option.
        
        Unfortunately in the eyes of the green left they are bad bad bad and will be marched off to the gulag for re-education.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:49am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        What the Greens really want is for us all to become vegans. This whole ‘fewer cows, more horticulture’ is moving towards their ideal of everyone living off soy and veges.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:52am
      - Wangas Feral
        
        Was listening to the Farming Show this morning on Radio Sport. There was an item about dairy farmers feeling they have to lie about what they do in some social settings. Where do these morons and greenies think our foreign earnings come from? I just cannot see their end game – unless their endgame is collapse of the economy. In which case they are doing great.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:00am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Chris, believe it or not, the highest youth suicide rates in Auckland & NZ are in the ECB/Hibiscus Coast & Rodney areas. This was from the local youth suicide support group at a fund raiser at the Puhoi pub 18 months ago. The issue of affluent families, lack of parental interest in the family, pressure to succeed, easy access to material benefits etc. It is not an easy issue to deal with, but it is not an issue of lower socio economic groups so much. So, seems Cindy is barking off without understanding, what is new?
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:05am
      - KevOB
        
        Youth suicide is being fostered by this govt. The greens have been putting the fear of Gaia into the youth for years. I have had to re-indoctrinate my children against their schooled fears.
        Fears that we are damaging the planet and our future are easy to instill. They can remove hope in a generation. Truth is the antidote. That truth is found in Christ.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:34am
    - Piniwi
      
      Plus RWC the riparian plantings of native trees along waterways which have a higher uptake of nitrogen to grow better from what would not only contaminate the rivers but be wasted by run off. It is mostly a localised effort from farmer and local bodies at substantial cost but with already measurable results. So far ahead of the nothing done by Labour before who struggled to even attempt to set initial limits. They always show they care retrospectively.
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:10pm
  - Justitia
    
    Yes Hullkiwi, no analysis, no consultation – just like oil and gas. The little commissars celebrate Marx’s 200th birthday by practicing “revolutionary terror” on the economy.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:23am
    - tf78
      
      What is the point of all our supposed FTA’s when we aren’t going to have anything left to trade. Why would dairy farmers want to change to crops when a whole years work can be wiped out overnight, not to mention the fertilizers and insecticides those crops need. I wish Labour would just pack up and go home.
      
      I also wonder about whether the Mycoplasmabovis was introduced by the cow hating Greens on purpose.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:19am
  - stephieboy
    
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    hukkkiwi, haven’t you heard? The country is not run by the farmers.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:26am
    - RalphT
      
      No, but it still needs them.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:29am
    - hullkiwi
      
      No dipstick, but your standard of living is because NZ is an agricultural nation & it will remain so for the foreseeable future.
      
      With that comment you appear to be rather ignorant about where the real GDP of the NZ economy is generated.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:56am
    - kowtow
      
      No , it’s run by fuckwits.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:11am
  - G152
    
    Cant wait for them to legislate the levels of population in towns as they feed ‘treated’ sewerage and storm water directly into waterways…
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:26am
    - VicParking
      
      Can’t do that, they will need to re-open old Mt Eden prison to hold Goff and his Council cronies.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:32am
    - kowtow
      
      G152
      
      Exactly. I’d warrant any river just downstream of any reasonably sized town/city would be “unswimmable”.
      
      Time for the gubmint to put a limit on human populations.
      
      How timely , they’re celebrating their ideology’s founders’ 200 year birthday, Marxists are very good at decimating populations.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:16am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        G152: Very good point. True Greens would not want these huge, overpopulated cities for many reasons, including water pollution!
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:55am
  - 3-coil
    
    hullkiwi (8:07am) – there are worrying signals that feral lefties are implementing Parker’s plan already.
    
    I spent the weekend in the provinces, and there are emerging disturbing signs that some of the mycoplasma bovis outbreaks on dairy farms are the handiwork of hard-left Greenie eco terrorists. The wholesale slaughter of dairy herds is the result the Greens want, and it seems there are no depths they won’t sink to if it helps achieve their goal. If true, this is economic sabotage on a colossal scale.
    
    The cynical Labour/Green politics at the last election of driving a wedge between urban and rural voters (along with many other identity groups) appears may have resulted in the most socially destructive government NZ has ever seen.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:33am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      That’s the first time I have heard that allegation 3-coil, but given the lengths animal activists have shown they will go to, it is entirely credible.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:34am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      3-coil, incredible, but it’s true that eco terrorists do some outrageous things. I’m not knocking your theory, but do you have any links for some proof?
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:58am
      - 3-coil
        
        CL – that discussion was under the Chatham House rule.
        
        But I can say: in the past there had been a number of nocturnal visitors on the diary farm in question, but mysteriously no rustling, vandalism, petrol thefts, MikeKing-type guerilla expose, or marijuana cultivation etc…then, an MB outbreak. The outbreak is notified, but the local farmers have circled the wagons (and have their suspects) but do not trust the authorities. I strongly suspect any future local outbreaks will not be notified.
        
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        May 7, 2018 1:11pm
    - Wangas Feral
      
      If that is true that is frightening. There are way worse things than mycoplasma bovis that they could introduce.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:02am
    - WebWrat
      
      Mate of mine in Canterbury told me the other day that they can’t get bulls killed at the works at the moment. The works are flat out killing 25,000!? MB cows.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:24am
      - backster
        
        I heard an experts interview on ZB recently. One cow with MB and the herd of 1200 to be destroyed. The expert doubted it could be eradicated.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:37am
      - simpleton1
        
        WW and many of the other farms that had stocked killed, are still awaiting compensation.
        Now the talk is that compensation is to be cut back.
        
        Makes one wonder, will farmers, even people in other industries, want to stay under the radar, when problems arise.
        
        Another way to the 3rd world.
        Not if but when, will foot and mouth strike, and why would you get a vet informer, when you may just humanely dispose of the cow, and hope that the problem goes away, or cash the farm before the deeper trouble strikes.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:51am
      - simpleton1
        
        Backster,
        Sad to say you may be right.
        
        The people I feel most sorry for are share milkers, young people, usually with families, borrowed much to make a start, as they are dependent on the health and value of their cows.
        
        There are inherent problems in the hidden stages of the disease, that make it difficult to contain.
        I figure the ministry may not know everything, but nor are they explaining as much, nor taking on board possibilities that farmers may propose.
        
        All farmers do not want this disease!
        They will do what it takes, so long as practical knowledge, education is shared, so that practical things may reduce the spread.
        
        Can they live with it? It does seem costly when it strikes a cow down, and no treatment. I would like to know what % of cows do become infected.
        
        It is difficult to know it the Ministry are on the right track, with this massive kill, as the disease can hide out for 3-4 years.
        One plus is that dairy farms can through bulk milk tests quickly find a herd/farm, then reduce down to just the +ive cows. But will not pick up the hidden carriers, that later become contagious.
        
        Not sure how it will go if and already now, in parts of the beef industry.
        One plus is that making prime beef usually is done within 2-3 years old, except for breeding cows.
        Would have to be more individual cow testing, maybe in part to fit in with TB testing that is in some parts of the country.
        Also the test may take longer to do than TB testing.
        
        Hopefully at this stage the herd numbers affected are low, testing can be done, and if promptly done to cull, just maybe, maybe we could eradicate this disease.
        
        Secure our borders, in relation to importing semen, eggs, and foetus’s, and new animals.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:12am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        ‘Stay under the radar’. Yes, the whole point of compensation was to encourage farmers to report disease quickly and deal with it thoroughly.
        
        Not saying their aren’t many who will report even if it basically costs them their livelihood, but it will just take a few who don’t report to sink this country.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:12am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Meant ‘there’, not ‘their’. Whoops.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:19pm
      - RF
        
        I can remember that dairy farmers were going to be compensated for having their infected herd of cows culled.
        
        On Friday I heard Damien OConnor stating on News Talk ZB that he expected the farmers would have to contribute 40% to 50% of the total cost. Thus the compensation could be as little as 50%.
        
        This will ruin some farmers but hey… labour does not give a rats arse about them.
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:16pm
  - Ross12
    
    I read where the new farming “expert” Parker says there could restriction of the number of cattle per hectare.
    How is he going to do that –inspect every farm, soil test it in some way and them get out his abacus to get the magic number ?
    It would be meaningless and impossible to come up with a number that is applicable to all farms –even for farms in a district.
    He said horticulture is better ? If it was more economical people would have been converting years ago (like with kiwifruit) . But economics has nothing to do with Parker’s world.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:41am
    - Monique Watson
      
      He was banging on about how Central Plains should be growing apricots. Has he no idea how intense horticulture can be on the land? The idiot knows nothing and he’s out to do as much damage to the regions before he leaves.
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5696327/New-Zealand-minister-David-Parker-says-country-overrun-cows.html
      
      Too many David’s in Labour if you ask me.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:47am
      - Ross12
        
        He ignores the fact that fruit growers cannot get enough labour to pick fruit. It is only the hard working guys who come down from Pacific countries that keep the current industry going.
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:55am
      - redeye
        
        Horticulture is much more risky than stock. Cows don’t die from unexpected frosts, and don’t bruise from unexpected hail. And they don’t need an army of cheap labour to harvest. The labour needs to be cheap because, while being happy to pay $3.00 for a bottle of water, most wont pay 50c for an apricot or apple.
        Parker is an idiot. Land and soil types are not the same and different fruit requires different soil. Apricots for instance need deep, moisture retentive, well-drained, slightly alkaline soils and struggle in poor, shallow and acidic soils.
        Growing grass is much easier.
        
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        May 7, 2018 9:13am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Parker went on and on about wanting it to be ‘fair’ on Nat Radio this morning: that it wasn’t fair that some dairy farms were highly developed and others, many Maori owned, still needed to develop.
        
        This has very little to do with clean rivers. Instead, I see two things:
        
        1. The Greens want much more horticulture, because they would like us to become vegans and don’t like animal farming.
        2. Labour are going for the zero-sum theory again: make more developed dairy farms poorer and worth less, and magically Maori owned farms can then develop and enrich the owners.
        
        The fact that it takes a lot of money to properly fence, plant and protect rivers wasn’t even mentioned.
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:07am
      - Ross12
        
        I heard Parker was on the box last night saying this was likely to be his last term in Parliament so he wanted to go out making a difference or on high note or something similar.
        So it is all about Parker –nothing to do with the country or even the Labour Party. That makes him just about as self centred as Peters.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:30pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Right Ross12 the RSE scheme will likely top 12000 this year as it steadily increases every year. Yet NZ still have not acknowledged that dairy farming may well be the only emission neutral industry in NZ.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:38pm
    - Harkman
      
      “How is he going to do that –inspect every farm, soil test it in some way and them get out his abacus to get the magic number ?”
      Greeny Gestapo, starring Mike Joy as Major Hoffstetter.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:48am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Every farm in NZ has to provide a nutrient budget to an independent assessor every year…. it’s been happening for about 6-7 years.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:02am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Parker believes horticulture is better for the environment than dairy cows. Wrong!
      Parker says if he doesn’t lower the number of cows for the benefit of the environment he will be a failed politician. Too late!
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:17am
    - Gravelroad
      
      I was wondering how these policies were going to appeal to the many Maori dairy farmers and Maori owned enterprises which have invested huge T of W money into dairying.
      Thanks to Classic Liberal for providing the answers as heard on radio.
      White dairy farmers bad and rich.
      Maori owned farms not so bad so will get help to develop.
      Unbelievable.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:38am
    - KevOB
      
      Parker and the rest of the govt are incompetent fools. NZ did not elect a govt of that ilk. We expect a govt to be able to govern according to its social contract. We have had no notice of such enormous changes proposed and they have not been reviewed. There is no mandate for such drastic change.
      
      This govt has no right to impose what will it may.
      We need urgent action for a new election–possibly instigated through the legal system.
      
      Someone has to be in charge we cannot have a govt that has no responsibility to the people. They do not own us we own them.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:52am
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        I think you’ll find that ‘we own them’ is a discussion going on all around the world in ‘modern democracies, and that ‘the people’ had no idea they have lost democracy almost in entirety.
        
        Modern ‘democracy’ is specifically based on ignoring ‘the will of the majority’. Parliament is comprised of ‘representatives’ who do what is ‘good for the people’ in their opinion. They are not ‘delegates’ who carry out the will of the people.
        
        That’s precisely what is happening in the UK over Brexit – and throughout the EU. People who claim that Parliaments are supposed to enact the ‘will of the people’ are nasty ‘populists’ who are trying to implement ‘tyranny’ of the majority.
        
        The current Secretary-General of the UN classifies such ‘populism’ as on the same continuum but at the opposite extreme of it as ISIS – and says it must be just as purposely ‘fought’ and ‘eradicated’. Don’t ask for a ‘quote’ source. I watched/listened to him personally in his acceptance speech of his appointment – on Al Jazeera.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:26am
      - KevOB
        
        @Anne Glen Eden
        I always value your contributions.
        
        Have a look at the Magna Carta and its historical surrounds. The Imperial Laws Application Act, 1988 re-affirms the key principal of everyone in NZ being equal before the sovereign.
        Monarchs have lost their heads for seeking to hold power beyond control. I cannot concede to Parliament having monarchical power. We have a non resident monarch and representative here. But we have no practical way to deal with a rogue govt. Three years is a long time when economic damage is being inflicted without mandate. Govt can never have a mandate for what it is not competent to carry out–that is negligence in high places. A duty of care is implied for a govt in respect of it’s people. Ideology puts that aside presuming that no review or prudence is required: the issues being settled by prior fixed principles. Govt of the people is not possible that way, only dictatorship. Without the exercise of a duty of care there can be no mandate and no govt.
        
        My “own them” reflects their duty to us not to themselves.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:38pm
      - Anne Glen Eden
        
        I agree with you KevOB.
        
        We’re all in a very dangerous place without democracy. You can see it around the world with the rioting against elections or outcomes of elections. Parliaments no longer act on the will of the people – and consequently, any group in society considers that they have the right to get their own way, by any means necessary, based on nothing but simply taking and using power.
        
        They claim that if they’re elected, voters have ‘approved’ them as having superior judgement on anything/everything. We’re not electing ‘representatives’ who enact the will of the people – we’re electing temporary parental ‘guardians’ who impose their ideology on us for three years at a time. And they are all ‘rogue’, with no accountability, the MSM having assumed the same rights to ‘power’ and ‘rule’.
        
        It’s ironic because that makes it no different to Russia, the ME, or any other undemocratic state. The increasing rioting isn’t any different either.
        A violent response is becoming more normalised every day; if not violence, social disruption. There is no social contract agreed anymore.
        
        It’s bizarre that it needs to be done – but it’s time that the whole subject of what democracy means became an overt topic of discussion. Now that is something I would like to see NZ ‘lead the world’ in – and hopefully a return to and respect for real democracy.
        
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        May 7, 2018 3:01pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Apologies Anne 3.01pm, error of down tick, meant to be up tick.
        
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        May 7, 2018 3:12pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Ah Ross12 the mighty Kiwifruit where producers are again struggling to find some modest 1200 people to get the crop picked and packed. That is only in the Hawkes Bay region so it is obviously a bigger problem when all growers are considered.
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:31pm
  - Holly Roggerz
    
    Well during the election, and negotiations they ‘backed down’ on the irrigation scam to tax farmers to death… And Peters was there to proclaim himself the rightous defender of rural NZ….
    
    Well guess what, their new anti-fertilization scam, is just another way to drive the farmers to bankruptcy, this time not by increasing their costs, but by attacking their revenue stream, by pushing down crop yields and pushing down the number of cattle….
    
    What was it last week, it was the Gas and Oil industry that was destroyed, this week it will be Cows and the week after that it will be vegetables and fruit? No wonder the Australian Economy is in the shithouse after 3 or so years of that same crap we are just now experiencing from Jullia Guillard who was also, suprise suprise, Secreteriat of the australian Socialist orgranization!
    
    She said she was only the secretary(iat) which FYI is a pretty high position and has nothing to do with being a receptionist or answering phones or organizing meetings… And even that would be a high position….
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:26am
  - Tricati
    
    Parker’s rhetoric, coupled with Damien O’Conner reneging on reimbursement of full costs associated with culling stock with microplasma Bolvis is very alarming. Now expecting farmers to pick up 40 to 50% of the costs, indicates a ‘dark’ plan to diminish the dairy industry with no understanding of either the social or economic ramifications.
    If the reneging on the reimbursement of stock loss, is in fact coupled with Parker’s position on stock levels, then we as a country have reached a new low and level of deceit.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:13am
    - simpleton1
      
      Thanks Tricati the other day for your link to ZB audio about the cull.
      
      That to hinder and reduce compensation, will push many to go under the radar.
      So that when signs do not look good, then sell all your live stock, immediately, maybe even the farm !
      
      Nurseries would have bargain sales for plants even though they may have quietly disposed of all other possible infected plants. Maybe sell the business too.
      
      A supermarket will dispose of some dubious fruit or vege, infection, then just special sales/discounts for the rest and avoid a shut down.
      A bit more problematic with staff, but then they also would risk losing a job either way.
      
      Just take the money, before the damage becomes wide spread.
      
      People try to do the right things, and usually need some support where there can be major personal costs involved.
      Compensation is not winning lotto. It will only get you back to where you are, usually in combination with a lot of time and work.
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:38am
- Paulus
  
  It appears that there are many unsold tickets for the Clintonesque festival.
  Assume there will be plenty of givaways at the Uni and Polytec today.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:17am
  - VicParking
    
    Unsold, its so bad they are thinking of shifting it to the toilet at Myers park. Free ticket for Stephie, morning by the way, who lives in stall three.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:35am
  - Simon
    
    “It appears that there are many unsold tickets for the Clintonesque festival”
    
    I would pay money to watch Clinton fall down some steps or collapse in a heap.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:46am
    - Rich Prick
      
      No charge.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:55am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The same organisers who worked the Rotorua Mud Festival, apparently they have some imported mud left over that is free for all those attending to sling . . . .
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:08am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Hillary speaking on a Monday night shows our relative importance.
  
  No it doesn’t.
  
  It simply shows the relative affluence of our deranged idiots.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:17am
  - Happychappy
    
    Did Jacinda arrange free tickets for the Coalition of clowns to support Hillary and her way of living with Capitalism.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:23am
- Maxx
  
  I see that Jacinda is looking to ask Hillary about lessons on elections as she doesn’t want to be a single term PM. She does know that Hillary didn’t win right?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:19am
  - sooty
    
    Not any.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:22am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Hillary did win two elections as senator in New York, but thankfully the US electoral systems ensured she was not influcted on fhe world as POTUSoA.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:07am
  - RF
    
    I am sure the Clinton Crime family can give our Commie Chick some tips on how to lie through her teeth.
    
    Maybe the pupil could teach the master.
    
    Birds of a feather etc…
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:26pm
- stephieboy
  
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  Monique Watson, think about it?
  
  Who cares?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:24am
  - mandk
    
    Monique gets upticks and you get downticks.
    
    That give a clue about who cares.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:56am
- Scott
  
  It is amusing to me that Hillary is here. But she seems to be getting relatively little media attention. Hillary tends to limit her public appearances because she needs a lot of rest.
  
  Perhaps fellow bloggers could help me here? Is it because Hillary is a vampire and can’t come out during the day? Or is it because she is a shape shifter and really feels the effort of constantly maintaining human form? I know it’s one of those but I can’t quite remember which?? 🙂
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:02am
Maxx

Argentina has had to lift interest rates to 40% to halt a run on the Peso. Inflation is running at around 25%. One of the major causes of this high inflation rate? Spending more than they were taking in causing the world’s capital markets to lose confidence Argentinian debt.

They fell into trap that when times were good they spent spent spent. Then things go south and they can’t turn off the taps as people have come to expect the handouts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44001450
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May 7, 2018 8:04am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Coming to a country near you.
  By a CoL.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:13am
  - Maxx
    
    Directed by Taika Waititi?
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:20am
  - stephieboy
    
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    RWCcapitalist, hysterical hogwash!
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:27am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Pot…. Kettle?
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:43am
    - Harkman
      
      It’s coming SB, things are going to get so, so bad, the left will be unelectable for a generation.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:51am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Really???
      EVERY time Labour have been the govt.
      They have left the mess of
      recession
      inflation
      high interest rates
      higher unemployment
      failure to deal with REAL crisis
      bloated govt. bureaucracy.
      deficits
      high taxes
      etc etc
      and it is OBVIOUS these bunch of idiots are heading the same way, full throttle no breaks in their clown car.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:43am
  - Simon
    
    India is in trouble as well. This will spread.
    
    Too much debt, including NZ.
    
    Anti-market mongs are in charge now. The mongs now think they can control events by passing legislation and blaming National. Everyone else know better. Dont fuck it up mongs.
    
    RBNZ must be worried about CoL.
    
    OCR wont drop as it will send a signal that RBNZ are concerned about CoL but will read between the lines with their release.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:42am
    - Harkman
      
      “RBNZ must be worried about CoL.”
      But they have changed the RBNZ to corrupt it, soon it will be full of trade union reps so rates can’t go up. Rates are already too low.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:54am
- peterwn
  
  Expect more sabre rattling from the Argies alleged ‘ownership’ of the Falkland Islands. Incidentally the Falkland Islands Pound is pegged to the UK Pound (I cannot find out whether Falkland Islands have Bank of England ‘Titans’ to back its currency or if the local government is highly disciplined fiscal-wise).
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:27am
  - Maxx
    
    An interesting question. The best answer I can find is that the Governor of the Island requires the approval of the British Secretary of State before assenting to any bill that affects “the currency of the Falkland Islands or relating to the issue of banknotes” or any bill that establishes “any banking association or altering the constitution, rights or duties of any such association”
    
    https://www.fig.gov.fk/assembly/images/constitution/The-Falkland-Islands-Constitution-Order-2008.pdf
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:51am
    - KevOB
      
      Most interesting. This is an example of the Crown management of the old colonies. There is an office in England that does admin as needed including purchasing.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:59am
      - peterwn
        
        The Governor of the Falkland Islands at the time of the Argie invasion was a Foreign Office staffer and it was envisaged that he would assist with an orderly transition of the Islands to the Argies. However after being in the job for a while and realising at first hand the implications for the locals he ‘turned native’ and persuaded Maggie Thatcher to break off progress on letting the Argies take over. He remained a lifelong friend and advocate of the Falkland Islanders. Hence the Islanders no doubt accept benign control by the UK.
        
        As far as Falkland Islands currency is concerned, its regulation by the Foreign office would no doubt be in coordination with the Bank of England so its currency would be on a similar basis to the banknotes issued by the Scottish banks. It is no doubt easier for the locals to virtually adopt the UKP than have to set up a ‘Reserve Bank’ and risk the currency being fiddled. The integrity of its currency would be very important for trade etc.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:41pm
  - Harkman
    
    The interesting thing when looking at the ownership of the Falklands, is that Argentina is the only country without a legitimate claim to them and Andrew Jackson who could of taken possession of them instead gave them to Britain.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:19am
  - tf78
    
    Speaking of the Pound – when Charles takes over from Queen Elizabeth, how soon will all our notes and coins have to change and who will be paying for it.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:31am
    - Gentleman Bastard
      
      It will be Arderns face on the 1 million NZ mark bill, Peters on the 10 million NZ mark bill, we will worry about the rest when we can buy some more ink.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:02am
      - RF
        
        Who will pay for the suitcases to carry money to the dairy to buy milk and bread. This will be after Labours second term.
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:31pm
    - peterwn
      
      Her Majesty has been on the throne for a very long time and the advent of decimal currency meant the replacement of banknotes and coins.
      I suspect there would be no sudden change of banknotes and coins when Prince Charles ascends to the Monarchy. In any case the Reserve Bank changes out the banknotes each decade or so to ones with enhanced security features and so the next due change would probably coincide with the change of monarchy.
      
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      May 7, 2018 12:29pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Prior to our switch to decimal currency in the 1960s I recall coins featuring George V and George VI from when NZ first issued its own currency in 1933 but there was plenty of Brit currency in circulation in NZ as well dating back to Queen Victoria.
      
      I recall a lucky find in my change from the bus driver back in the early 60s when I spotted what I thought was dodgy sixpence but on closer inspection turned out to be a Victorian half sovereign. How that got to be there God only knows as they had not been legal tender for years.
      
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      May 7, 2018 3:07pm
Inandout

Denis O’Reilly simply will not blame the gangs for being a scourge on society, but then again to be relevant he needs gangs.
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May 7, 2018 8:05am
- Anne Glen Eden
  
  Denis O’Reilly had some very good and intelligent things to say. It’s a great pity that his ideas are not implemented.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:35pm
waikatogirl

Simon Bridges was animated and doing well this morning as he scoffed at Stuart Nash’s announcement of his intention to smash the gangs by targeting their benefit fraud. Saying Nash is instead back-tracking on his promised 1800 police, and Andrew Little wanting to go soft on prisoners. He says Nash “will get rumbled by the guys and girls above him” meaning his senior colleagues will have other ideas about getting tough on criminal gangs. Simon also went after Labours announcement on eliminating homelessness but having no new solutions.
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May 7, 2018 8:06am
- Chuck Bird
  
  waikatogirl
  
  Where was he on?
  
  Thank you.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:23am
  - waikatogirl
    
    TV3 on Duncan Garner. Not sure of time, 6.25am?
    He’s on every week Chuck.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:43am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Thanks. I will see if I can find it on demand.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:52am
- Justitia
  
  Were there subtitles?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:27am
  - waikatogirl
    
    ?
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:44am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  “Why not? You know, if we can’t get them for the crimes we know they’re committing, let’s investigate them for benefit fraud. Let’s find a way to get these gangs. You know-
  
  What specifically-Are you going to see if they’re getting income from somewhere else? I mean, specifics – what are you going to do around that?
  
  Well, again, this comes to the Proceeds of Crime. And I’m not going to mention a name, but let me give you one example. There’s a Head Hunter – a leader of the Head Hunters – we’ve taken six houses off him, we’ve taken his Harley-Davidsons, his fast cars and a whole lot of cash. Now, he hasn’t been convicted of anything to do with his gang affiliations, but he is being investigated for benefit fraud. So he may well go down for benefit fraud, so-” – Stuart Nash
  
  What does this all mean, it means that these alleged gang members, allegedly part of a criminal organization, alleged criminals, are so obviously guilty, but not in the kind of way that you can actually ‘find them guilty’ that the state has seized their private property under the proceeds of crime act, when he has not been prosecuted for any crimes!
  
  So much for the rule of law, presumption of innocence and private property rights, and now the same lieing criminal nazi police state scum are saying, ‘we can’t actually prosecute them for any of their ‘crimes’ so we are going to find or make something up’ because well obviously they are guilty…
  
  If they are so obviously guilty, take that evidence that you have to court and prosecute them, because honestly, its not up to the minister of the police, or the police commissioner or any member of the police or cabinet to say whether someone is or is not guilty, that is a legal matter for the courts!
  
  What is alarming however is the police commisioners interference in the NZ political sphere with his comments about Arderns boyfriend, and with his comments before the election against national, and of course the planting of evidence in the Crewe case (and presumably against many others who were ‘clearly guilty’, and just generally speaking the lack of actual crime fighting, the same dairies getting repetedly robbed, the same trains being tagged again and again, and the same people throwing rocks from the same bridges…. And what do the police do, nothing, no prosecutions, but they will plant evidence on motorcyclists who are ‘clearly’ guilty….
  
  Or ‘boy racers’ who are just normal joes going to a car meet, on the public roads, maybe parking in a public or paid car park in tauranga… Ofcourse its upto the state to decide who deserves this sort of police attention…
  
  We have a big problem in this country in regards to the corruption in the state, and the police force, and the complete lack of accountability and rule of law, the real benefit fraudsters like Metiria Turei who unlike those ‘gang members’ (motorcycle club members) has actually confessed on tv to her crimes and is therefore actually clearly guilty!
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:56am
  - Longknives
    
    I agree with all that you wrote except-
    
    “Or ‘boy racers’ who are just normal joes going to a car meet”
    
    No they’re not.
    I love cars and car racing (Real racing- On a track like..). Don’t ever lump me in with ‘Boy Racers’.
    They are dropkick losers.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:48am
  - KevOB
    
    Winz is even looking into benes deriving income from private companies. They don’t care about corporate veils and don’t distinguish between income and capital. Winz rules and they have punitive power to withdraw income to enforce their will.
    
    Winz staff are acting as if if they are paying benefits out of their own pockets.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:04am
- Ross12
  
  WG
  Let us know when Bridges gets a bit more than “animated”. I want to hear enthusiasm, fire in the belly and occasional raising of the voice.
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:01am
flipper

Another week coming for Regime obfuscation and obsequious MSM ignorance.

Oh well, that is the consequence of the Peters-Ardern regime.
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May 7, 2018 8:11am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  MSM have backed off the attacks on Jacinda – now that there’s not going to be a massive pork barrel full of cash going to be paid to Red Radio for their Pravda-work on behalf of Labour. No money for RNZ TV this budget.
  
  The MSM are whores, they make Stormy Daniels look like a paragon of cock-swallowing integrity.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:45am
  - Piniwi
    
    But DP there is a change of guard at Red Radio and native TV. Griffin is gone and has been replaced with a native TV cast off. Makes it even harder to understand why he withheld the threat fro Curran.
    
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    May 7, 2018 7:53pm
    - RF
      
      Maybe his silence ensured him a decent golden handshake..
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:34pm
Rich Prick

I knew the cows would be next, this Government hates the country.
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May 7, 2018 8:11am
- mandk
  
  Next it will be tourism because all those foreigners drive around in polluting campervans or fly from place to place.
  
  Then it will be grapes, apples and kiwifruit because they need irrigation and chemicals – and lots of foreigners to harvest them.
  
  Then what?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:22am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Not grapes Mandk. Grapes make wine, although I suppose it could all be imported instead of exported. Drinkers in Auckland and Wgn won’t care where it comes from as long as it has the desired affect.
    Always remember: wine sexy, milk not sexy.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:37am
    - lifesgood
      
      Yes, it will be grapes except for the Chardonnay producing variety.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:35am
      - sooty
        
        No, lanlords are next.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:04am
  - Piniwi
    
    Interesting mandk that there is a TRIENZ conference starting in Dunedin(yeah second prize location) where sustainability is on the agenda. However it is strange that the organisation that claims to promote NZ as a tourist destination also has an identity crisis since it is named “Tourism Industry Aotearoa”. Even this forums input vocabulary chokes on that one.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:10pm
- oldgolfer
  
  Yep. Hates cows. Hates sheep. Hates farmers. Loathes irrigation. Despises productivity.
  Unlikely to be happy until farming is on its knees.
  If he gets his way, and he probably will, watch land values drop – and you know where that will lead.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:30am
  - VicParking
    
    Gulags will take over. Labour is cheap and dispensable. We will still be able to compete globally, even with our 80% interest rate. The NZ Dollar at $200 to the US $1 will also help.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:41am
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      Well Winston First has always said he wants a ‘better’ exchange rate, the problem is that economically this has been debunked, its the same BS behind printing money, the same pricinipal.
      
      Basically the logic is that you need to print or depreciate your currency at an exponentially greater rate to maintain over the medium term the gains in productivity, which is generated by the suppression of real wages, as people catch on they insist wages go up to restore their buying power after all their productivity hasn’t changed…
      
      And everything reverts to the one-price rule, that being with most comodities being world priced, that those world traded commodities are all ‘one price’ the world market price…. Essentially there is no magical printing press, no mythical ‘low exchange rate’ these have no impact on output or productivity or competitiveness over any meaningfull timeframe….
      
      It didn’t make venezuella more competitive, it didn’t make the UK or EU or any other country debasing their monetary supply and trying to lower their exchange rates more competitive…. Their is no emperical evidence to support the lower exchange rate = more competitiveness conspiracy theory…
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:04am
      - KevOB
        
        Inflation –> reduced dollar –>increased prices –> more poor(er).
        
        Stupid poliicies –> reduce production –> less sales –> less demand –>lower wages or job losses –> higher govt payouts –> more taxes –> go to Aus to avoid.
        
        Green activism –>reduce cows –> reduce exports –>reduce dollar –> see above.
        
        Do we now need security for cows against animal activists? What can we feed those gaians?
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:14am
      - Piniwi
        
        However HR the COL have managed to effect a slump in the NZ$ since the O&G announcement with the obvious impact on the “poor” people being seen with $0.02 per litre increase today at the pump for fuel. Interesting too that all fuel companies have all moved their prices by the same amount as the dollar pauses at the $0.70 plateau ahead of the budget perhaps. Baring another blunder from the COL blunder bus.
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:26pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Great VP the Chinese who buy up NZ plonk by the bulk container load will be chuffed with such a favourable exchange rate. It is funny how quick a 20ft container drains it’s 26,000 litres when the bladder inside springs a leak. The wharfies are on hand to help the environment by grabbing as much free plonk as they can to “protect” the environment. Drunk fish are also less likely to be choosy over what bait is on a hook when they get their share from the storm drains.
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:17pm
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  TBF, the governmen’s MPs don’t loathe the country.
  
  It’s simply that they live in cities and only occasionally drive through the countryside on the way to another city.
  Being city based, they think the nation’s prosperity comes from city-based businesses and occupations.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:11am
  - calendar girl
    
    You’re probably right. But if that’s so, then they are incredibly ignorant of the country (and its income sources) that they purport to govern.
    
    The (s)election of a LAB / NZF / GREEN Government was of no great concern initially. It was an improbable, contrived coalition that always looked like having – and still does – a relatively short-term tenure. But the doctrinaire lunacy that is being pursued in some sectors of our economy is going to have a profound and lasting legacy – even if the Ardern / Peters ‘partnership’ ends in tears, or at the 2020 ballot box.
    
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    May 7, 2018 6:13pm
- Harkman
  
  The far left hates everything traditional with New Zealand. Secretly they hate the All Blacks too.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:22am
- kowtow
  
  What we need is for National to import tens of thousands of Hindus , who would then protect the cows…….oh wait.
  
  ‘Eleven cow protection vigilantes in the Indian state of Jharkhand have been sentenced to life in prison for killing a Muslim man who was transporting beef.
  
  They are thought to be the first people convicted for violence in the name of the cow.’
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/22/indian-cow-vigilantes-jailed-for-life-alimuddin-ansari-death
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:27am
  - Komata
    
    Kowtow
    
    And this raises the question:
    
    WHERE THE HECK IS THE NZ NATIONAL PARTY IN ALL THIS??????
    
    (Apologies for ‘shouting BTW).
    
    Seriously, the CoL is presenting the Nats with a whole dump-load of ammunition but all we are getting from the Nats is …Crickets!!
    
    Simon Bridges is touring the country apparently to ‘introduce himself to the people’ but for what real purpose?
    
    Surely, he should be in the ‘House raising hell and attacking the CoL at every turn, yet all we get is ‘Hi, I’m Simon Bridges, Leader of the New Zealand National Party, come along and meet me at…’
    
    Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic. A golden opportunity missed; you’d almost have to wonder if he actually BELIEVES and suppoerts what the CoL is doing!!
    
    There’s little to indicate that he doesn’t.
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:23am
    - backster
      
      On the other hand maybe the MSM are monitoring and editing any response he makes. On news reports we get voice d statements from various government spokespeople but a response from the opposition is a short interpretation from a reporter. When National was the Government the reverse applied.
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:08am
      - KevOB
        
        The people in the regions need to see Simon as the media are not going to make him visible.
        
        The worm is turning. My wife liked Jacinda for all the popular reasons but she has now recanted and sees the true nature of this barely lawful govt. The children are turning too.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:19am
      - Holly Roggerz
        
        Look Newstalk ZB isn’t perfect, from my experience 99% of their hosts are nutters, and that is inline with the rest of the mainstream media. However, and there is a big however;
        
        The difference is that News Talk ZB under a private company like NZME has far less of an incentive to be a pure propaganda outlet for the deep state. The difference is that whilst (with the exception of the fantastic mike hosking) 99% of their hosts are nutters, they have a mixture of far left nutters, and some moderately less far left wingers. You simply don’t get that type of balance with state media!
        
        And the best presenter in this country is on the best time slot, and he is there because of merit, just like Paul Henry in his prime was there on merit, untill he got fired over political BS…. Similarly out of the blue after the election Mike Hosking ‘left’ 7 Sharp….
        
        Point is that perhaps National Should have replaced the board, management and middle-management of RNZ and TVNZ, moved them away from their political activism towards that off a comercial orientation like NewstalkZB, where there would be at least some balance, and then privatised them… They could have done that whilst TVNZ was actually worth something…
        
        Now its a convinient excuse for them to keep their mouts shut, and I don’t like that, because excuses are just lies told to justify innaction.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:58pm
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      I see where you are coming from Komata, and I understand the core premise of your complaint, and I want you to know… to rest assured, that really there is nothing to worry about, Jacinda Adern and Ron Mark are on the case!
      
      As long as National continue on their present course of maintaining silence, when we become a 3rd world communistic dictatorship like Venezuella, we will eat the crickets, and you won’t have to worry anymore about their buzzing sounds irritating you!
      
      See labour really is working hard to solve all the worlds problems!
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:02pm
  - GoVege
    
    Wish they treated their wives half as good as their cows…
    
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    May 7, 2018 12:16pm
    - softail 1450
      
      govege ,they do……
      
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      May 7, 2018 2:23pm
    - realityczech
      
      Cows are worth twice what a woman is tofu tits.
      
      I suggest you shop around more.
      
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      May 7, 2018 5:23pm
Monique Watson

Minto rises from the grave to propose a new tax:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2018/05/30-000-empty-homes-in-auckland-is-it-time-to-tax-the-owners.html

Nobody wants an empty rental but better empty than letting to dropkick tenants who trash the house and leave their garbage behind when they are finally ousted.
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May 7, 2018 8:11am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Is it still renting, if the tenant doesn’t pay?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:15am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Haven’t you heard RWC, paying rent is out under the COL. Landlords to fill their rentals with the homeless purely for the feelz and a bag of unicorn dust.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:50am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Squatting. I’ve had it. Walked into a rental and some guy on a floor in a raincoat sleeping. Me: “If you don’t pay rent here, get out”!
    Mind you, he very good naturedly ditched the dirt on the tenant dragging in underage girls and kicking holes in the walls before he left.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:55am
- Inandout
  
  Why doesn’t Minto go and live in SA, the shit hole he helped to create? How the hell he was allowed to be employed as a high school teacher escapes me.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:16am
  - Harkman
    
    He’ll give a lousy excuse that “South Africa is not Marxist enough.” Besides he loves this new government, they’re idiots like him.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:40am
- MCos
  
  Can’t argue with your second sentence, but the inference seems to be that all tenants are ratbags, which is obviously not the case.
  There’s several houses around my neighbourhood that have been sitting empty for reason or other.
  I rented out my house for years while I lived abroad and always had good tenants. Never made much from the rent by the time management & maintenance was taken into account. I can understand people leaving a place untenanted.
  I read the other day the government has no intention of taxing empty houses so expect a tax to be announced in the budget.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:07am
  - tf78
    
    It makes you wonder what “home ownership” actually means nowadays.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:48am
- KevOB
  
  How can anyone pay a tax based on an asset that is not producing income? That is confiscation.
  
  Don’t pass the Minties.
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:22am
  - GoVege
    
    Maybe coz it’s more than JUST an asset??
    Like houses were built with the intention of actually “housing” people.
    And in the midst of a housing crisis. .with people living in cars and on the street….rich, absentee owners can either sell up or rent out!
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:36am
    - rangitoto
      
      Would you rent your house to them? Good luck with that.
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:15pm
- GoVege
  
  Maybe you need to be a bit more selective about your tenants.
  And dont trust an agency to rent it out.
  We had drunken layabouts with pit bulls every time the agency chose the tenants next door.
  When the owner chose them, we had teachers and builders.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:01pm
  - Happychappy
    
    I would not be surprised if you needed a pit bull to live next store to you.
    
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    May 7, 2018 1:44pm
- Piniwi
  
  Amazing MW that anybody even cares what Minto has to say but even his “news” is old as it came the previous census. The situation is getting desperate for the COL since many of them are their houses that are inhabitable.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:34pm
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… What is Auckland learning (about urban expansion) from Greater Christchurch ? …

… John McCrone of Fairfax NZ / Christchurch The Press writes …

Lincoln (South fringe Christchurch) : From mill town to boom town … John McCrone … The Press … h/t GF …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103331085/lincoln-from-mill-town-to-boom-town

It was supposed to be a post-quake phenomenon, yet there is little sign of it slowing. Why are rural fringe towns like Lincoln still growing so fast? JOHN McCRONE reports.

The contrast is striking. In central Christchurch, Fletcher Living is taking forever to get going on its East Frame townhouse and apartment block development.

Government and council have agreed that denser inner city housing is vital to making a success of the earthquake rebuild. Yet despite inking a deal with Fletcher to build nearly 1000 homes back in 2015, the first 20 properties won’t be finished until late this year.

The buyers just don’t seem to be there for them. And so the (central) East Frame development has been uphill all the way.

However, take the road (south) half an hour out of town to Lincoln and the story is the opposite. This once sleepy village has exploded with subdivisions. Its residential footprint is now 10 times what it was 20 years ago. … read more via hyperlink above …

READ MORE:
* Rolleston: Time to take it seriously
* Christchurch’s $600 million motorways
* Christchurch’s next problem: bringing residents back into the CBD
* Government ‘locked in’ to contract for delay-riddled east frame
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Housing and poverty biggest concerns for Kiwis — (IPSOS) survey – NZ Herald

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12044214

Kiwis biggest concerns in life are about housing, followed by worries about poverty, healthcare and crime, according to new research.

In its first survey of New Zealanders, intenational research company Ipsos discovered the biggest issues facing the nation and which political parties they think will fix them.

More than 40 per cent of people surveyed for the Ipsos’ Issues Monitor said they were concerned about the cost and lack of supply of housing. …

… The survey found that 38 per cent of Kiwis believed Labour Party was the political party most capable of solving the housing crisis, compared to 21 per cent who believed National could fix the problem.

Housing and Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford said the national housing crisis was hurting too many New Zealanders.

“From those left homeless, to those living and suffering the health effects of poor quality housing, to those locked out of the Kiwi dream of home ownership.” … read more via hyperlink above …

… which explains why the National – led government got thrown out of office late last year. Governments lose elections … Oppositions don’t win them … refer GONE GONE GOING and Ardern / Twyford sections at Performance Urban Planning …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
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May 7, 2018 8:12am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Gone, and nobody took any notice of him.
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:56am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    … Recent history … Bloomberg report … 30 August 2017 …
    
    Housing Affordability Fires Up New Zealand’s Voters – Bloomberg – 30 August 2017
    
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-29/kiwis-defeated-by-crazy-house-prices-create-vote-battleground
    
    … extract …
    
    … As ownership falls to the lowest since 1951, housing affordability is firing up voters ahead of New Zealand’s general election on Sept. 23. The government is under attack for failing to respond to price surges that have forced many to ditch their property dreams. New Labour leader Jacinda Ardern has made housing a key issue, helping restore the main opposition party in opinion polls and leaving the election too close to call.
    
    “The government’s response has been too slow and inadequate for many because they’ve seen house prices rising very fast,” said Raymond Miller, professor of politics at Auckland University. “Some voters might well have a feeling of being let down by what they see as indifference to their plight. It’s the government’s Achilles’ heel.”… read more via hyperlink above …
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    A generation of mortgage slaves: Auckland’s house prices leave home owners mired in debt … Helen King … Stuff / Fairfax New Zealand
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/103205338/a-generation-of-mortgage-slaves-aucklands-house-prices-leave-home-owners-crippled-in-debt
    
    Auckland first-time home buyers are being set up for a lifetime of debt and could struggle to save for retirement or raise a family, a housing expert says.
    
    Home affordability campaigner Hugh Pavletich believes the true definition of affordable housing is three times a household’s income. But in Auckland the price boom has seen that figure soar to 8.2 (HP correction 8.8 times … refer http://www.demographia.com ).
    
    Pavletich said this meant buyers were paying on average $552,300 more than was affordable, forcing them to pay higher deposits and mortgage … read more via hyperlink above …
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    Housing sure throws Tories on the political trash heap … deservedly …
    
    A home truth for the Tories: fix the housing crisis or lose power for ever … The Spectator
    
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/04/a-home-truth-for-the-tories-fix-the-housing-crisis-or-lose-power-for-ever/
    
    Former Deputy Editor of the UK (Tory) Telegraph has been beating up on his fellow UK Tories for years about the failures on housing issues … e.g. this cracker from back in 2015 …
    
    The real ticking time bomb for the Tories is home ownership – Telegraph
    
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/11917816/The-real-ticking-time-bomb-for-the-Tories-is-home-ownership.html
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:33am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
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      … August 2016 …
      
      Housing campaigner predicts spiralling house prices will be Key’s ‘Waterloo’ | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/83627043/Housing-campaigner-predicts-spiralling-house-prices-will-be-Keys-Waterloo
      
      … further information … GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
      
      Let’s put Keys political downfall to music …
      
      WATERLOO ~ Stonewall Jackson (1959) – YouTube
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QQI6lb_Hg
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:39am
MT_Tinman

For the first time since Muldoon I have stocked up on booze (Whiskey and wine) before a budget.

Couldn’t squeeze another bottle in if I tried.
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May 7, 2018 8:14am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Taxman
  The Beatles
  Let me tell you how it will be
  There’s one for you, nineteen for me
  ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
  Should five per cent appear too small
  Be thankful I don’t take it all
  ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah I’m the taxman
  If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
  If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat.
  If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat,
  If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.
  Don’t ask me what I want it for
  If you don’t want to pay some more
  ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
  Now my advice for those who die
  Declare the pennies on your eyes
  ‘Cause I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman
  And you’re working for no one but me.
  Better stock up on a whole bunch O’ stuff.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Today is tax freedom day where one finally stops working for the government and is allowed to keep the fruits of ones labours.
    
    Enjoy it team for once this collection of fiscally illerate toss pots finish, it will be mid July in 2019 for the next tax freedom day unless one is a bene in which case it will remain Jan 01
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:19am
    - flipper
      
      I knew it was bad. But 11 months and 7 days before the Regime takes it hand out my ( and your) pockets?
      
      Jeez H C on a Bike….. what will it be after poofies fiction in a few days time?
      
      Bloody disastrous thanks to two main issues – $1.4 Billion to “students” (aka un-needing trime servers), and an even larger sum to bribe those stupid folk who live and work in Auckland.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:45am
    - tf78
      
      Does it mean no one pays GST today?
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:49am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      At least that is a better insult.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:59am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      A story told to me.
      an old man and a young guy sitting, fishing, on a wharf.
      The old guy: I worked for 50 years, paid my mortgage, am debt free, my kids look after themselves and I get to sit here and do nothing but fish all day…I’m retired.
      The young guy: WOW…I’ve never worked, the govt. pays my rent, the govt. looks after my kids and I sit here all day and do nothing but fish…..
      I’m on welfare.
      Best paid job in the world…welfare…hourly rate get money for no hours worked, my maths tells me that is an hourly rate of INFINITY…can’t go higher than that.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:25am
  - GoVege
    
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:32am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Yeah ‘she loves you, and you know that can be bad…’ LOL!
      Am I the only one that got that?
      Glad, sad, mad, bad
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:01pm
- stephieboy
  
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  MT Tinman, stop playing the paranoid and other silly games.
  
  Stocked up on the ciggies also ?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:28am
- alwyn
  
  You are clearly a man in the best George Best tradition. As he put it
  “‘I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered”.
  A friend of mine, many years ago, decided on Budget day that booze tax would be put up. He went to one of the wholesalers (this was back in the 1960’s) and stocked up with everything he could afford. When he came to the counter he was asked if he worked for the Government. Answering yes he was then asked whether he worked for the Government Printing Office. I never did find out how long it took him to drink it all. The tax wasn’t put up that year so it was all in vain.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:40am
cmm

Well Cindy won’t be retiring today…

She’ll wait until she has been able to have a selfie with Clinton.

She won’t want to be around for the shit-fest after the budget next week, so maybe she will be leaving then. It would make a fantastic squirrel bomb to take eyes off the budget.
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May 7, 2018 8:16am
- RW Capitalist
  
  2 pin heads
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:20am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Be a terrific conversation.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:42am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      What kind of conversation can a senile old bat have with a pathological liar?
      Your task for the day, to decide which is which.
      JA: How many lies did you tell?
      HRC: Can’t remember
      JA: Me neither!
      Now which is lying and which is losing their memory (senility)?
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:41am
      - cmm
        
        Some useful topics:
        
        1) Tips for keeping the pooch on the back porch.
        2) When should I set up the Jacinda Foundation?
        3) Are voters really that dumb?
        
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        May 7, 2018 1:47pm
- cmm
  
  Yup, it happened:
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12046551
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:03am
  - cmm
    
    … and boy are the comments giving them both a drubbing!
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:54am
VicParking

Poverty is causing our children’s teeth to rot. Sugar is causing our children’s teeth to rot. Lack of information is causing children’s teeth to rot. One after another, groups with vested interests are coming out to ask for handouts from this governments open cheque book policy. Isn’t it Slack parenting that is causing children’s teeth to rot.
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May 7, 2018 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Isn’t it Slack parenting that is causing children’s teeth to rot.’
  
  It is literally as simple as that.
  
  But the MSM who hawk these stories and the so called health professionals who whore these stories refuse to lay the blame at the feet of lazy , useless parents.
  
  But then how many of these ‘families’ have a functioning parent?
  
  20 years ago I saw a stat that said the no 1 cause for children’s admission to hospital was dental decay. How preventable is that . How expensive is that.
  
  The gubmint tell us we can’t discipline a child , if you do you’re an abusive criminal and yet a parent can be so neglectful their child is admitted to hospital through a lack of care, and that’s not criminal?
  
  What a fucked set of “values” we now have in Aotearoa, formerly New Zealand.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:37am
- lifesgood
  
  Like the Polynesian family I saw recently…3 young children each carrying a litre bottle of fizzy drinks they were drinking from. God there are some ignorant people around. How do you get through to them?
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:41am
  - Komata
    
    Lifeisgood
    
    This might be of interest:
    
    Many, many years ago, when newly married and on a ‘getting to know my wife’s family’ excursion, I had occasion to call in on one of the ‘new’ sisters in law; a solo mum with a (then) three year old, living in a rental in country. She was a nice lady, but something bothered me about the child. I said nowt, trying to work what what was bugging me. I couldn’t, until it suddenly clicked; At three years of age the child had no ‘baby’ teeth!! A quiet word to my wife later confirmed that I wasn’t wrong; apparently the child’s ‘baby’ teeth had all rotted-out and those that had survived, were all subsequently removed because of excessive decay, leaving it literally toothless. And the cause? The numerous 2 litre bottles of Fanta which lay around in large numbers, and which had been fed to the child from a very early age! The larger ‘Family’ knew about it and thought it ‘cute’ and of no cause for concern…
    
    The mother wasn’t bothered; the soft-drink ‘pacified’ the child and also filled its stomach; what was there not to like? It was also ‘cheap’ (when compared to milk) and easily obtaineable. Besides which ‘The Little one Liked it’ (which was not exactly surprising…).
    
    Not ‘ignorant’ per se’ but to to the Mum, an entirely practical solution to a problem (And one she could afford). ‘Must needs’ and all that.
    
    It should be noted BTW that as an adult, said child DID / DOES retain all their teeth, although how the ‘adult’ set survived in such an environment is still a cause for wonder…
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:46am
    - lifesgood
      
      No I’m sorry, it is ignorance she quietened the child but ignored the damage she was doing to it. My children and grandchildren all drink/drank water. Water is even cheaper.
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:00am
      - cmm
        
        It isn’t ignorance. To be ignorance it would require that the parents are not aware of the effects on teeth (and other health effects).
        
        Of course they are aware. Show me one parent in the whole of NZ that has not been told about this – likely countless times by health workers, pamphlets, etc etc etc.
        
        The same for STDs, smoking, obesity and other health problems that impact more prevalently on the less successful members of society.
        
        Everyone knows that smoking is harmful. Everyone knows what condoms are for.
        
        Everyone is aware of the issues, so they can’t claim ignorance.
        
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        May 7, 2018 12:02pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      ‘It was also ‘cheap’ (when compared to milk)’
      
      Now wait for the CoL to destroy dairy farming…
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:18am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Heard earlier on the radio that all those very young children who require their teeth removed under anaesthetic cost the taxpayer $4k per operation. Maybe the useless parents should be sent the bill. They may decide then that it is not worth allowing their children to have rotting teeth.
      
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      May 7, 2018 2:54pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  The ‘it’s Poverdee’ lie in the headline was incredible on Red Radio this morning. Even the dental nurse couldn’t keep up that nonsense: it’s sugar and lack of daily brushing and flossing that are the are real problem. Plus children can have free dental care.
  
  And she even admitted that really there is no ‘lack of information’. She said she has often repeated the ‘no sugar, brush and floss’ rules to communities but ‘somehow’ they don’t sink in.
  
  You can lead a horse to water…
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:18am
  - hullkiwi
    
    But solving poverdee and a sugar tax will solve all ills. Didn’t you know?
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:28am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I guess they just can’t afford a toothbrush :(.
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:18am
softail 1450

I see our useless MSM have swallowed the labour narritive that the country is broke and thats why there are going to be so many broken promises coming up in the next months.
with such a fawning gutless media this country is asleep at the wheel and heading towards the cliff.
but not to worry we are the “transitioning to female” athletes capital of the entire planet FFS.
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May 7, 2018 8:20am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Funny how we went from $bill surplus and tax cuts to this mess, in just 6 months.
  How bad will they screw it up give another 30 months?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:22am
  - Komata
    
    RW C
    
    How Bad?
    
    Very; ‘socialism’ when combined with ignorance (even when you have a degree; supposedly the sign of being ‘well-educated’) and a fervent belief that ‘You’ are ‘right’ does tend to have that effect.
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:52am
Maxx

Further signs the CEO of Tesla not taking external relations seriously. Hangs up on a call with the chairman of the NTSB who was calling about them continuing to make public statements over an incident that the NTSB was investigating.

It’s becoming clear that Tesla is in dire need of a strong COO to get all of the issues under control and leave Musk to do what he is best at – driving ideas and being a figurehead.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-04/musk-hung-up-on-ntsb-chief-in-testy-april-call-about-tesla-probe
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May 7, 2018 8:22am
- waikatogirl
  
  Maybe Hulun could become the COO for Tesla. Is California far enough away from NZ to prevent her medling behind the scenes?! ?
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:01am
oldpark

NZ is in the middle of a chaotic political storm.
Here we have the two unelected electoral seat bullies Peters and Parker putting the boot into NZs to satisfy their lust for revenge and power.
Peters the self appointed Dictator is sucking off a so called protection for him legislated document called the Waka jumping bill. That will be a complete domination of NZs voting rights if he gets his way.
Next we have the sick wee pest who couldnt run a bath called Parker. Parker was rumoured to have been run out of Dunedin by even the lefty voters there. They worked out he was such a ratbag and a liability he got the don’t come Monday electoral vote.
Now for a quirk of NZs voting system the sicko wee pest has made a comeback and is putting the boot into our hard working Farming communities accusing them of nefarious activities.
Talk about biting the hand that runs NZs economy his claims is complete lies against so many hard working NZs.
Now guess what another waste of space has blown into town Called Crooked Hillary or is it” People have been mean to me”.
“People have been mean to me” is having a meeting with Peters selected “Commie Chic Comrade Ardern “. She will be passing on many many ways to lie, as if Pinnochio Ardern needs any help.
What a web Peters has weaved ,when he has set NZs on a road of chaos and confusion to match his own dismal track record of Forty wasted years in NZs Parliament.
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May 7, 2018 8:23am
- stephieboy
  
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  oldpark, let’s press the snooze button.
  
  Boring, boring …..
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:32am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Yes, you are Stephie 😉
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:39am
  - oldpark
    
    @ stephieboy.
    Now thank you for calling . Gives me a chance to ask how are you getting on with your headbanging . Sounds like a lot more that compulsory five time a day. Wonder if your pedophile mate Mohammed and his kiddie fiddling and marrying nine year old wee girls has been hidden by most of his brain dead head bangers.
    Perhaps you will come clean and also reveal you are now carrying on his vile dirty habit of sexual perversion.Like Mohammed like you. What a sicko habit.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:53am
    - VicParking
      
      Stall three
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:40am
- slightlyrighty
  
  One wonders how Hillary might feel about Cindy when it’s explained to her that Cindy is in power without winning the popular vote?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:38am
- Gentleman Bastard
  
  Don’t forget Parker also shacked up with one of his best mates wives, the subject of one of NZ’s most iconic love songs, while said mate was affected by debilitating motor neuron disease which eventually killed him.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:37am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Actually, Knox had a major stroke, and according to his Wikipedia profile is still alive.
    
    However the issue of Parker shacking up with Knox’s former wife (and caregiver), is a matter of public record. In 2011, Parker even stood in the Epsom electorate, having settled in Auckland. He came a distant third behind John Banks (15,835) and Paul Goldsmith (13,574) with a mere 3751 votes, although it must be noted that he finished 3627 votes ahead of Penny Bright.
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10716817
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:55am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Chris Knox is very much alive.
      There was a fulsome piece on him in the Herald, I think, in the last 18 months.
      I would rather not comment on Mr Parker.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:02am
    - Gentleman Bastard
      
      He’s a Labour voter so he’s dead to me.
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:42am
- Fletch
  
  Parker has been dodgy for years. Should have been thrown out long ago.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:49am
Maggy Wassilieff

Well, our farmers can’t say they didn’t have the signals that they were going to be hit.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/356770/epa-chief-exec-cleared-of-misleading-select-committee
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May 7, 2018 8:24am
- stephieboy
  
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  MW, after nine years, getting their own way.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:31am
slightlyrighty

For a government that is intent on setting up working groups and discussion panels for the sake of appearing to be doing something, they sure are quick to action when it comes to attacking things they don’t agree with.

Oil and Gas, Charter Schools and now Dairy Farming, all ruled on as a Fait a Compli, without any consultation with the affected parties, and no thought to the long term consequences to the country as a result.

This seems to be SOP for the COL, as evidenced by their new inability to reduce GP visit costs.
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May 7, 2018 8:24am
- oldgolfer
  
  It may not be long before the tractors are back on the streets.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:45am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Or drive huge cow herds to the beehive and let the cows make their statements!
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:34am
    - KevOB
      
      Ngauranga is close by.
      
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      May 7, 2018 11:38am
    - rangitoto
      
      Send a herd of angry bulls into parliament.
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:22pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Send a herd of Jersey bulls up the lifts to the 9th floor. Just like this COL they have a nasty attitude and are out of control! ?
        
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        May 7, 2018 3:10pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Hipkins has announced an 8 member “working group” (yeah, I know, yawn) on education. I hope the damp leftie interviewed on RNZ isn’t one of them. He was demanding something more from education, couldn’t tell us what that something was. I think it was “wellbeings” or somesuch. They’re like flies to shit.
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018643753/govt-will-be-held-to-account-on-education-plans-welby-ings
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:02am
Captain Mainwaring

The gene pool is enhanced yet again.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/103675366/on-dead-after-car-crash-in-new-plymouth
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May 7, 2018 8:25am
VicParking

Red Radio’s bias is so blatant its not funny any more. After Simon Bridges interview this morning Labour’s cheer squad read out tweet after text running down Simons comments. You can tell by content and grammar that they are from the troll group at Fraser House.
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May 7, 2018 8:30am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  For about two hours each week, when they do not have anything related to politics on, Red Radio is NZ’s greatest radio station.
  But it is the other 166 hours that gives me hot screaming abjabs.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:05am
- oldgolfer
  
  You can, Vic.
  More often it is not who they interview, but who they do not.
  Likewise with the selection of comments.
  Perhaps RNZ would like to tell us how much it makes from the comments it receives, seeing as though they incur a charge – or did the last time I was so mad I was tempted to send one in.
  And if they do not agree with what the interviewee has said, they wait for them to hang up the phone or leave the studio, then add comments of their own.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:23am
  - alwyn
    
    They don’t actually make anything from the ones that are read out. Those ones are pre-prepared and delivered by Courier from the ninth floor of the Beehive.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:45am
  - VicParking
    
    Like this morning. After Simon was cut off Guyon said “I wont hold my breath”. A prize Count
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:44am
- kowtow
  
  Their virtue signalling is on display every time they introduce themselves in Maori , a language that the Maoris themselves won’t use.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:53am
  - VicParking
    
    Or understand, most of them. 15% Maori 6% speak it
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:45am
    - kowtow
      
      6 % speak it.
      
      Saying ki ora , kai and marae doesn’t count in my book.
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:14pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        …and it has to be in the correct dialect (dependent on Wii & region).
        
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        May 7, 2018 3:48pm
    - Piniwi
      
      However VP there are more cracks appearing in the COL with Teacher Bill being withdrawn. Meanwhile the new co-leader of the Gang Green is on a crusade to have native gibberish compulsory in schools is not getting much support from the real COL partners. Could it be that she thinks NZF will pay twice for getting the O&L industry hit job? Or there more trade offs in the wings but written the secret agreement?
      
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      May 7, 2018 8:55pm
  - KevOB
    
    And they use kiwi grammar not Maori.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:40am
- Classic Liberal
  
  ‘Red Radio’s bias is so blatant its not funny any more.’
  
  And yet I listen to Morning report, because that’s where the politicians go to spout their drivel and we need to know what their next threat will be :(.
  
  Certainly gets the heart rate up in the morning, but not in a good way…
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:39am
  - KevOB
    
    I feel much better from only having to tolerate one brief TV1 “news” segment each day. My aspy son is addicted to it but I’m working on it. No radio either.
    
    Why batter oneself with the red drivel? Let’s fight back, in the cow protection squads if need be.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:45am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      It is painful, but I need to see what wall this govt. is driving us into.
      
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      May 7, 2018 12:25pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Must admit CL they seem to be the only TV news source that leave no stone unturned which does help we suspect to help set the COL narrative.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:58pm
sooty

Cindy can not go on baby leave until after putting out the fires from the budget.
I did think that she would be out early and not be back untill the house sits next year.
But l wonder can she afford the time out, would there be an up rising, would winney cause to much trouble, can she afford to have so many in whitless protection. Is the taxpayer paying for the nannies required.
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May 7, 2018 8:31am
DifferentPerspective

A glimpse into NZ’s future – sex with 10 yo “Not Rape”

In ‘oh so progressive’ Finland, the Supreme Court has just ruled that a 23 yo having sex with a 10 yo was not rape!

The depravity of progressivism knows no bounds!

It’s a good job that the National party are fighting this insane progressivism at every step (stop that damn Tui advert).
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May 7, 2018 8:37am
- MCos
  
  I had a look at that link on Brietbart and another article caught my eye in which Giuliani suggested Trump might take the fifth amendment to avoid answering questions from the Mueller
  Donald Trump once said
  “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
  Now I read elsewhere that Giuliani says Trump may have paid off some other women. This may be like water off a duck’s back to his diehard supporters, but it’s hardly likely to spread his appeal.
  Giuliani may be back down at the WIUSA office again very shortly if this carries on.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:30am
- MT_Tinman
  
  DP, I’m struggling so help me out.
  
  Incidentally the age of consent in Finland is 14.
  
  I could understand and agree that the quoted case shows racism, religious bias and absolute bloody stupidity by those in whom protection of the innocent is entrusted but how the hell is it “progressive”?
  
  “Regressive” would be more apt.
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:12am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    You’re right, Tinman. ‘Progressive’ these days is not about equal opportunities and same rule of law for all. Instead, it’s about division by ethnicity and religion, and extremely strangely gives religion more importance than basic equal rights for women and protection of children.
    
    That Finland case: ’23-year-old asylum seeker who had sex with a 10-year-old ‘.
    
    The asylum seeker may have come from a religion that admires a ‘perfect man’ who married a 6 y.o. and had sex with her when she was 9. Some countries allow that because of this ‘perfect man’. And under this new ‘progressive’ concept, that’s OK in Finland now!
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:55am
- kowtow
  
  Thank you for posting , I see the culprit is an asylum seeker.
  
  Funny how certain rape cases , I’m thinking of the Spain bullrun case , get masses of msm coverage , but these ones don’t .
  
  I wonder why. Likewise I posted below about the Israeli denied uber service in Chicago , that too will garner relatively little attention.
  
  Compare and contrast for example when the Christian bakers in NI woudln’t bake a cake with a political message they didn’t agree with , massive coverage.
  
  Our MSM is firmly on side with the Muslim incomers as well as the tiny minorities in society who would seek to overthrow our long held rights.
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:23am
Paulus

The so called rumour appears now to have legs in that New Zealand is no longer in the Five Eyes Security arrangement and has been replaced by France.
That will please the Greens – albeit that it has only taken six months for Winston’s gobby Prime Minister to achieve her desired communist thinking wish.
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May 7, 2018 8:42am
- Lance
  
  Ummmmmm
  
  What about the receiving base at Waihopai… it that offline?
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:41am
  - VicParking
    
    I see the grass is getting long at Waihopai Station.
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:49am
holysheet

A guy goes into hospital to have a vasectomy. The surgeon visits him later and says “I’m afraid I have some bad news for you, unfortunately your notes got mixed up with another patient and we’ve given you a sex change instead of a vasectomy” The guy gulps and says “Does that mean that I will never experience an erection again, Doctor”? The surgeon replies “Well you may, but it wont be yours”
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May 7, 2018 8:42am
Happychappy

Tracy Watkins having orgasms in trying to find ways that National could lose the seat of Northcote. The media and their excuse’s for Journalism are not happy unless they can try and tip the balance in their parties favor with dreams of who they need instead of the electorate and it’s voter.
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May 7, 2018 8:48am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  More likely the journalists are trying to talk up a contest in what otherwise looks to be a snooze-fest.
  
  Basic journalism model: conflict and chaos sells papers. If conflict doesn’t exist, create it.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:16am
Rich Prick

Any word from the Police on the Labour sexual predator? The sex camp one.
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May 7, 2018 8:59am
- alwyn
  
  Any word from the Police about their investigation of welfare fraud from a Green ex-MP? The short, fat little one they used to have. Surely there has been some progress?
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:48am
- oldpark
  
  @Rich Prick.
  Do you mean the 20 year old son of a Liebour MP who was also seen at the camp,or was the pedophile in the “Bush”.Taking some cocaine or” P”
  We are not allowed to talk about it.A 9th floor directive.
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:08am
Southern Raider

Who is keeping track of all the coalition lies, economic sabotage and broken promises. They are flowing like a waterfall

Just this past few days
– we are doing to smash the dairy industry and we have done no analysis on what this economic impact to NZ could be (sounds like gas decision)
– we are not going to reduce doctors fees by $10
– we are going to phase the winter payment for poor people. Do the poor people get to phase winter?
– we will put homeless people in motels (I’m sure they slammed National over same thing)
– boat of Sri Lankan’s has been turned around (im sure they slammed National for saying that NZ was a target for people smuggling)

And on it goes. What will come out today
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May 7, 2018 9:00am
- alwyn
  
  “Who is keeping track of all the coalition lies”.
  I tried to keep track but I was completely overwhelmed. I thought I was a reasonably fast touch typist but even at my 70 words/minute the number to be recorded was more than I could handle.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:52am
  - VicParking
    
    They click over faster than KB’s non tree planting counter
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:53am
DifferentPerspective

No surprise – Greenies are polluters

A new study shows that there is a direct correlation showing:
– the more an individual preaches about Climate Change
– the less personal action the individual takes themselves to address Climate Change

Not that this is a surprise to any ordinary, decent person – having watched Green MPs and ministers fly themselves up and down the country (and around the world) in polluting, carbon-emitting, fossil-fuelled jets.

Hypocrisy! It’s OK when the left do it!
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May 7, 2018 9:00am
- Albert_Ross
  
  This is of a piece with findings that right wing voters tend to give more to charity than do left wing voters. Lefties seem to think that the more virtuous they think other people should be made to be, the greater their own personal moral superiority.
  
  Thus, upvoting on facebook or going on marches in support of demands for the government to do something about x outweighs actually doing something yourself.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:37am
EAD_TWO

Utah teen who wore Chinese-style prom dress hits back at critics who accused her of racism and cultural appropriation – and says she’d wear it AGAIN

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5682777/Utah-teen-wore-Chinese-style-prom-dress-hits-critics-says-shed-wear-AGAIN.html#ixzz5EkVr8Phl

Perhaps we should get “offended” about the billion or so Chinese people culturally appropriating Jeans, T-shirts, hoodies, trainers, Western business suits and shoes…

I’m more offended that the White youths in the article are throwing nigga hand signs….

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/30/16/4BB55D1F00000578-5674661-Pose_In_one_group_shot_Keziah_and_her_female_friends_can_be_seen-m-20_1525103767191.jpg
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May 7, 2018 9:02am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  Clothes aren’t a race, countries aren’t races, religion isn’t a race, these people who think every single thing is racial discrimination need to have their IQ checked, they have a serious mental deficiency, and so what if someone doesn’t agree with their brand of extreme cultural integration, mass immigration and internationalism?
  
  What if they don’t agree with the lefts tax, spend, and destroy mantra? Anyone who isn’t onboard with the cultural marxism, ecocentrism and socialism, the mass immigration or anyone of their derranged policies they are just ‘evil deranged heretics’ that need to be sent to prison for their ‘hate crimes’?
  
  What was it, the standard or whatever running their pro ‘tax is love’, ‘tax is caring’ mantra, that any who oppose this are filled with hate, the whole Metiria Turei ‘I commited fraud to feed my child’, and saying that anyone who opposes this, who prosecutes these people, are people who hate children… I mean this is just ridiculous!
  
  And you know what, stuart nash was on TV the other day, he said ‘if we can’t prosecute you, that we will find something to prosecute you for, if we think you are clearly guilty’, I mean these far left nutters are clearly all despots in the making!
  
  That Gilez Gilmoz or whatever she calls is just an example of one of them with their filters turned off! Saying white men need to move on…
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:15am
  - KevOB
    
    I was hopeful that Stuart may have had some of the character of grandfather. Instead he is shaping up more like Herbert Hoover.
    
    You don’t have to like criminals but first you have to prove that they are one. An idea is not sufficient under Magna Carta. Believe it or not the relevant part of that ancient law is part of the laws of New Zealand.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:51am
    - Holly Roggerz
      
      Well not just about proving people are Criminals in court as opposed to making up some BS and planting evidence and the like to get a guilty conviction because they are ‘obviously guilty’ or ‘those capitalists pigs deserve to be in prison’!
      
      Also peoples property should not be seized under some BS pretense like the Proceeds of Crimes Act, if they haven’t actually been charged for those crimes for which the money/property was allegedly aquired!
      
      Its the same BS pretense, ‘well we know he is clearly guilty of something to have such property, so you know what, we are going to freeze all his assets, then when they can’t afford lawyers, we will take them to court and just take everything’… And the judges go along with this becuase they are also public servants with the same corrupt mentality…
      
      There is a good case I shall link below that I believe emphasizes that, in addition to the head-hunters person (who despite not being convicted of any crimes, and despite no plans to charge him with crimes, evident by the fact they are resorting to benefit fraud, they seized his property…).
      
      In the case below there was a farm-hand, who accrued money that according to the state they could not adequately explain. Now ok, fair enough there is an issue with that, but it’s not a crime, unless it is Money Laundering under the Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Act, but they were not charged under that act, also that would I believe be an issue first and foremost for the Tax Department…
      
      The Tax Department should have contacted them and asked them to explain, then filed legal proceedings, because they have money that they didn’t pay tax on… And insisted on penalties, and depending on where it went from there, then maybe further prosecution under the AMLCTF or drug law, and perhaps then under the Proceeds of crimes act…
      
      Instead, they rifled through these peoples history, they found a marijuna plant on a farm he worked at (news flash every farm has at least one maraujana plant on it by now… and out of the hundreds of workers who worked on that farm, who is to say that plant belonged to any of them?), then said that all the money must have come from their proceeds as drug growers and distributors…
      
      And they ignored the evidence from the ex police-officer on the drug squad, who testified that the ‘evidence’ that they found does not support the thesis that they were growing marujana at a scale that could provide the level of income to buy that farm, and that therefore the farm should not be seized….
      
      I mean Cmon, how can the standards to knick someones property under the proceeds of crimes act be any different than proving the crime happened, surely you first need to establish the crime, then you need to establish a link between the crime and the alleged proceeds of crime or the farm…
      
      I am not saying they didn’t grow drugs, perhaps they did have a plant or two, or that they shouldn’t pay tax, quiet the opposite in fact, that they should have been investigated by the IRD, and that they should have also potentially been investigate by the police Financial Crimes Unit under AMLCTF act, and that if in the course of that investigation they uncovered evidence of criminal endevours like a drug plantation, of course they should prosecute them, then they should prosecute them another time and take their property…
      
      But they should do everything lawfully, according to the rule of law, due process and presumption of innocence, with a respect for private property… Not this BS hack job, because the State, comprising of the relevant Policemen and Judges decided on their own, in a parallel process, outside of the course of law, that these people were ‘clearly guilty’, that they ‘deserved’ to have their property seized….
      
      That is a disgrace, and frankly a farce and the sort of corruption that belongs in a bannana republic and not in NZ!
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12032542
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:25pm
      - KevOB
        
        That sort of Police behaviour is used in small USA towns to fund Police.
        Police should be held to criminal proceedings with required proof before any property is taken. They are acting as judge and jury in one.
        
        IRD have adequate power of inquiry and can assess taxes without a criminal level of proof. Unexplained income shown up as net assets is easy to tax and the onus fall on the the taxpayer to disprove the assessment. The IRD ability to collect tax is independent of any dispute about the amount payable.
        
        Police can raise their view of excessive assets with the IRD. The Commissioner of IRD can assess an entity such as a body unincorporate if necessary as well as individuals and regular companies. IRD also have comprehensive powers of information gathering and enforcement of their needs. Assessments become debts collectable through bankruptcy if needed.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:17pm
- mandk
  
  Yeah all those kids making hand gestures must be gangsters and druggies.
  Just like Stephen Lawrence?
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:27am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Yeah – pretty much all of the yoofs being killed in London are Gang/Drugs related.
    
    Unlike the likes of Kriss Donald but we don’t hear much of that name from the controlled press now do we?
    
    PS: I see there were a few more “British lads” killed today in Londonstan
    
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/700840/london-shooting-southwark-teenager-17-teenager-wareham-street-sadiq-khan
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:45am
- realityczech
  
  Neck ties worn around the business world are a cultural treasure of the indigenous peoples of Croatia.
  
  I am offended.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:51pm
Happychappy

You have to laugh at the media and those that support the Left in NZ Politics, whe John Key was Prime Minister they went out of their way to promote stories for their loyal supporters or as some say the Key haters. There were some very nasty comments and rumour over the years and never did the Police intervene and say these stories are false. The bright penny used to march with false statements on her placards and not a word said, they threatened to rape his daughter but the Police still never went public to stop innuendo or the lies. So you have a media of clowns to to match the Government of misfits and whinges.
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May 7, 2018 9:11am
Maggy Wassilieff

Allan Freeth reappeared in front of the Environment Committee to reiterate earlier assertions that no ministerial interference took place to oust the independent regulator’s former chief scientist Dr Jacqueline Rowarth.

He also rejected suggestions she was sacked or that she was managed out, but said Rowarth had been the subject of a “vicious” and prolonged social media attack and had been unhappy for some months prior to her leaving.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102846956/environment-regulator-comes-under-tough-scrutiny-over-departure-of-chief-scientist

Gosh, I wonder why the Commissioner Of Police didn’t get involved when one of our Chief Scientists is subjected to the nasty rumour mill.
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May 7, 2018 9:13am
- AgainstTheFlow
  
  It’s different if the Left do it.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:18am
  - stephieboy
    
    AgainstThe Flow,
    
    rubbish!
    
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    May 7, 2018 12:04pm
Wangas Feral

A question. Say you have a $200K mortgage on your house. Inflation goes through the roof so that the currency becomes worthless. Government issues new notes such that 100K buys you a loaf of bread (ala Zimbabwe or any other country with hyperinflation). Can you go and pay off your $200K loan with the now worthless $200K in inflated currency? Or are the mortgages pegged to something so that if that happened your mortgage would become $200Trillion?
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May 7, 2018 9:22am
- Rich Prick
  
  Your debt remains the same (whether it has a whole bunch of extra zeros is a moot point), but your property is worth $0. That’s because the economy has imploded and those banknotes are only good for use in the smallest room in the house.
  
  Once Labour has finished fucking the country over, we should compare notes.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:34am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    So the property is worth $0 but I own it outright. Have I got that right?
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:49am
    - simpleton1
      
      Only after Rates, that are used for the good of the community, with diversity, cultural, sustaining, vibrancy, sports, stadiums, arts, centres and etc..
      Of course outside contractors, and consultants will not be allowed to charge too much.
      
      Then make sure the new Capital Gains Tax, that you have a enough funds to pay. It may even be in an accrual form as the government or council, will not want to wait so long for its share of you profit!.
      
      Land tax where the house sits, whoops wrong, as Jacinda promised that part of land tax where the house sits, will not be charged, but the drive way, car shed/port, garden, vege patch look most likely. 🙂
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:56am
      - RalphT
        
        And to cut down on expenses, don’t pay your rates. I believe this is practised in parts of Auckland, though I’m not sure what the success rate is like…
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:16am
      - VicParking
        
        Sorry RalphT Reported you by mistake. Thick fingers
        
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        May 7, 2018 10:57am
      - RalphT
        
        I think I’ll be able to get over it VicP; done it myself a few times.
        
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        May 7, 2018 11:48am
    - rangitoto
      
      Only until the CoL declare private property illegal.
      
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      May 7, 2018 1:39pm
- simpleton1
  
  It will be easy to repay the debt.
  
  It looks like many wanted it to be pegged to Capital Gains Tax that will take the new value of your property and tax that.
  
  If inflation is not calculated, repairs and maintenance, then it is tax on inflation.
  
  If you can not pay those taxes and rates, then it will make all of us, become Penny’s as the courts/government will possess your property and redistribute to others that are more deserving. 🙂
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:36am
- marcw
  
  No, your $200k loan @ 4.5% interest will go up to around 2000% interest – per month.
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:54am
  - simpleton1
    
    The repayment interest rates, will force you to become a great “union man” so that you can pay that interest rate.
    As you will know you will need to increase your wages accordingly so that you do not loose your home, and to keep up with the soaring costs of living as well.
    
    You will also take great heart in “you can not touch me, I am a union man” 🙂
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:04am
Huevon

Crooked is in the country. Ostensibly for her speaking tour, but let’s not dismiss the possibility of her consulting with Kim Dot Com’s legal team about the judicial niceties of US-NZ extradition laws.

Morning Report breathlessly announced that “thousands” would attend her show ( although not mentioning that tickets were discounted to $99). She is, of course, meeting with our PM and the appropriate selfie will be revealed featuring the hapu and Clinton’s manic grin.

Two political losers maintained in public life by a minority of cult-like worshippers and the compliant media.
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May 7, 2018 9:26am
- ex-golfer
  
  And no point in David Parker attempting any exemptions from trade tariffs with Washington.
  They will take a dim view of our Cindy meeting with Clinton.
  
  Just shows the political naivety of our student-politician PM.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:40pm
dime

Has anyone else noticed just how many cameras the council/govt/police have around the place?

Its fucking scary.

I know, I know, if you’re not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about..

But does anyone else remember being asked if we wanted this much surveillance?
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May 7, 2018 9:28am
- Holly Roggerz
  
  And also if your not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about it in the following:
  
  North Korea
  China
  Venezuela
  The islamic state
  The oher islamic states i.e Saudi Arabia
  Russia
  All of south america
  and the rest of the socialist world
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:32am
- MCos
  
  Not as bad as a mate of mine who was on Google street view right underneath a Massage sign in Soi Cowboy, one of Bangkok’s notorious red light streets.
  Our office was conveniently located only a few hundred metres away near the train station . . . .
  
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  May 7, 2018 9:41am
- Fletch
  
  There’s a new movie called Anon which takes place in a future where social media has gone mad and everything about everyone is known. You just have to look at someone and you can see their stats etc. The story features people who have learned to live under the radar, so to speak, and when one woman is asked why, she replies, “It’s not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see”.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13LXC_BUGKA
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:26am
- Longknives
  
  Taken your life into your hands by taking a walk up Queen Street at 3am on a Saturday Morning lately Dime?
  Jesus I reckon they need more Cameras…
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:26am
  - dime
    
    i dont mind queens street. but as i drive around the shore they seem to be at every half decent intersection. its a bit much
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:31am
- kowtow
  
  The camera thing is an effort by the “authorities” to be seen to be doing something to “keep us safe”.
  
  Of course it does nothing of the kind. What it does is displace crime to places where there are no cameras.
  
  If the cameras did keep a society safe then Britain would be the safest place in the world , which it isn’t.
  
  What cameras might do is assist in the detection of the crime , after the event. But what’s the point when all the c#nts get is a slap with a wet bus ticket.
  
  If there’s such a crime problem then let’s bring back the death penalty and hard labour. Make it really not worthwhile to commit crime.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/university-of-otago/more-security-cameras-and-around-campus
  
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  May 7, 2018 1:10pm
- Poppa
  
  I don’t know about that Dime but if it helps catch crims I am all for it
  
  When I was in Singapore they had cameras everywhere including trees, & you never see a cop. They just watch the cameras
  
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  May 7, 2018 2:52pm
- realityczech
  
  Lets put cameras all through Mike Bush’s house with real time uploads to the net.
  
  If he is not doing anything wrong then he has nothing to worry about.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:47pm
  - calendar girl
    
    ….. not even rumours.
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:27pm
Surely Knott

Waitakere by-election underway. Candidate 1 is ceo of a social work trust where Penny Hulse the local councillor is the Chair. Candidate 2 is ceo of a social work trust where Linda Cooper the other local councillor is the Chair. No media has reported it. And it’s certainly not in their public candidate profiles. Should candidates have to declare their conflicts of interest in a race and if so how. Will the councillors get a soft landing by having their staffers on the board at council? Will the discussions about local issues happen at the local board table or at the office around the water cooler. Legit or not?
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May 7, 2018 9:52am
kowtow

I wonder where the driver “Yuva” is from?

‘An Israeli diplomat in Chicago said he was thrown out of an Uber on Thursday night when the driver heard him speaking Hebrew.’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-diplomat-in-us-booted-from-uber-for-speaking-hebrew/
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May 7, 2018 10:15am
Longknives

Just when you think Stuff might have hit a new low with this Racist rant-

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/103632305/joel-maxwell-youre-a-loser-don-brash-but-i-love-you-anyway

“Pākehās, man. They are a dizzying mess”

They publish this-
(Which compares Trump and Muldoon to Hitler- Calls Muldoon a “Monster” etc)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/103620546/thats-so-unfair-how-do-you-explain-trump-to-a-child-who-loves-truth-and-justice
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May 7, 2018 10:21am
- Longknives
  
  Come in Susan Devoy? Are you there Susan Devoy??
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:23am
  - Jack5
    
    Isn’t Devoid’s term as Race Tsar about up?
    
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    May 7, 2018 12:03pm
- RalphT
  
  Did you seriously expect anything else from Jane Bowron?
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:49am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Pākehās”?
  Ladies and gentlemen, here we have an English word that uses macrons to virtue signal.
  How do I know it is an English word tarted up with macrons? Easy. Maori words don’t end in consonants, let alone an “s” to indicate a race of people.
  If it were “Pākehā” then that would be different.
  This would still beg the question, why insert Pākehā when Pakeha will do?
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:55am
  - KevOB
    
    Correct– not Kiwi or Maori. Haha.
    Gotta watch ya Maori grammar too it might be bastardised as on radio and TV.
    
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    May 7, 2018 11:59am
  - Piniwi
    
    All due respect O old chap but to a European New Zealander it is an affront to be classified by the native P word. They can serve it up with macrons and fries if they wish but it just remains more native gibberish. Interesting working beside one of your countrymen who had the biggest Japanese/English dictionary ever seen told me after 12 months he had learned at least 10 terms (in English) to “fuck off”. It was a disappointment to think others would not reciprocate the respect he always showed but that was nothing compared to how his superior countryman treated him.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:23pm
- stephieboy
  
  Longknives , not nearly as bad as this deluded and unhinged rubbish ,
  
  https://kristiann1.com/2013/08/21/obac/
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:59am
  - Longknives
    
    Not quite sure how relevant that is Stephieboy.
    *You really are a strange little man aren’t you?..
    
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    May 7, 2018 4:54pm
Gravelroad

Conflicts of interest? Forget it.
This is not a concept of interest or concern to many (if any) spinners in central or local government.
The ends justify the means.
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May 7, 2018 10:26am
Fentex

We all know what is going on; Winston has made this bill the price of his support.

And Labour, because it wants power is paying the price (which as far as we know National refused to) – and NZ continues to have to put up with Winnie until the trolls final price is paid.

I suspect this is an incidental price we have to pay for Labour becoming a weak opposition over a long time out of power.

With luck Winnie getting to be PM will be the end of him – his needs met, his interest dulled – and we’re freed from his demands.

I wonder, is there some clever way opposition to the bill can delay it, for a few months?
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May 7, 2018 10:50am
VicParking

The first of many
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12046551
“Jacinda Ardern and Hillary Clinton meet in Auckland”
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May 7, 2018 11:03am
- stephieboy
  
  Vic Parking , and why not?
  
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  May 7, 2018 11:56am
  - sooty
    
    Herald says they are bestest first friends. Commie Chick even had a sweater pro claiming Cankles was going to win on election night. Bugger there goes any trade deal.
    
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    May 7, 2018 12:25pm
Jack5

A Hooerald reporter mulls over the possibility of DNA science might allow the rebirth of the moa.

To hell with the moa, what about Haast’s eagle, with claws as big as a tiger’s?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12039710

AND

https://www.wingspan.co.nz/extinct_birds_of_prey_new_zealand_haasts_eagle.html
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May 7, 2018 12:02pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So long as they are released only in the Wellington region. The Greens could use some predation.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:12pm
  - sooty
    
    Didn’t Mallard try this allready.
    
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    May 7, 2018 12:22pm
- realityczech
  
  The Eagle ate Moa. Got to give it a source of food first.
  
  Maori exterminated them both.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:47pm
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , and who exterminated these creatures?
    
    https://www.britannica.com/art/cave-painting
    
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    May 7, 2018 2:31pm
    - realityczech
      
      Darkie Muslims?
      
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      May 7, 2018 5:17pm
sooty

I don’t think it’s fair that cankles gets to stand on a box for the photo shoot with our PM Commie Chick. Anyone would think she has an inferiority complex.
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May 7, 2018 12:20pm
- realityczech
  
  Did the evil old hag manage to stand without assistance this time?
  
  They have to pump her full of drugs for these outings.
  
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  May 7, 2018 12:45pm
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , hows life in your fantasy bubble chamber?
    
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    May 7, 2018 2:28pm
    - realityczech
      
      She is clearing tripping in the PR photos. You can see it in spite of all the sympathetic air brushing done by the fake news media.
      
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      May 7, 2018 5:22pm
stephieboy

“Giuliani says Trump doesn’t have to comply with a Mueller subpoena and could invoke the Fifth Amendment”

President Donald Trump would not have to comply with a subpoena issued by the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and could invoke the Fifth Amendment if he does sit down with him, one of his lawyers said on Sunday.

“We don’t have to” comply with a subpoena, Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor who recently joined Trump’s legal team, said in a televised interview. “He’s the president of the United States. We can assert the same privileges other presidents have.”

Invoking the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution means Trump has the right not to answer questions if he feels the answers would incriminate him. ..”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/103674849/giuliani-says-trump-doesnt-have-to-comply-with-a-mueller-subpoena-and-could-invoke-the-fifth-amendment

Mr Giuliani, others before your pal have invoked the 5th amendment eg this Mobster here,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3alUB_BmzzU
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May 7, 2018 2:26pm
Anne Glen Eden

@waikatogirl

I agree Simon Bridges was, again, better this morning. In fact, he has a charming, cheeky grin which he should stick with. It’s not only engaging, he looks relaxed and confident when he does it. That is definitely a ‘John Key’ look that Bill English also acquired.

He has a tendency to start off well, now, but retreat to impassive earnestness which makes him invisible or potentially nervous.

It’s a bit of an art form. Always ‘engage’ positively with the interviewers – but about subjects under discussion, there’s a lot of room for outright approval, disbelief, irony, mild disgust, disapproval, etc.

Really, they’re all ‘looks’ that every parent learns to express to augment communication and/or save on words – being careful they’re used at the appropriate times. Most, if not all, the public ‘speak’ the language and will relate better the more they know where he’s at.
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May 7, 2018 2:33pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I agree Anne Simon getting the message across is improving, and he speaks without a forked tongue so his message is crystal clear and believeable for voters. Cindy, on the other hand, speaks a lot without actually saying anything.
  
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  May 7, 2018 3:29pm
Captain Mainwaring

So Lizzie the marvellous one has admitted she’s bisexual.
Does anyone care?
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May 7, 2018 3:49pm
- mandk
  
  Meh, cheap publicity trick.
  
  Lizzie tells her agent she isn’t getting enough attention, so the agent tells her to announce that she is thinking of having sex with another woman.
  
  And BINGO! Lots and lots of prurient interest.
  
  Problem is that Lizzie needs real talent to remain interesting.
  
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  May 7, 2018 4:07pm
  - Longknives
    
    I see she is claiming that she kept her sexuality a secret because she ‘Didn’t want it splashed through the Media’ etc
    Then she does an entire Virtue Signalling ‘Puff Piece’ on herself and her sexuality.
    
    The concept of Irony really is lost on people like her isn’t it?
    
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    May 7, 2018 4:52pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Bet Womans weekly is pissed that they didn’t get the scoop.
  Frankly I don’t care how lizzie gets her jollies.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:02pm
  - sam green
    
    Four of you seem to care.
    
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    May 7, 2018 6:16pm
- calendar girl
  
  Will it be included in the bylines of Marvelley’s opinion pieces published in the Herald? Or is that kind of advertising off-limits?
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:45pm
Rodney Randall

May 7th 2018

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/103486634/space-at-a-premium-at-christchurch-city-council-headquarters-as-staff-numbers-skyrocket

August 29th 2015:
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/08/60_fewer_managers_for_christchurch_city_council.html

What has the Christchurch City Council C.E. Kareen Edwards achieved?

“The C.C.C. is incapacitated with bloat” – Hugh Pavletich

There is much public speculation, rightly or wrongly, that Mayor Dalziel is eyeing up Peter Davie’s (C.E. – Lyttleton Port Company) job and will not restand.
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May 7, 2018 3:54pm
- Tricati
  
  What has Kareen Edwards achieved – Over 30% increase in my rates since she took over.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:56pm
Keeping Stock

An interesting development in the Labour Summer Camp/underage drinking story. A 16yo Labour Party activist tweeted some time ago:

I also had a few beers at a Labour event at this restaurant and talked to Jacinda about youth political engagement. Was pretty riveting for me, probably mundane from her

It seems that alcohol is freely available at Labour events, even to those who are too young to legally purchase or be supplied it. I somehow don’t think Jacinda Ardern will be happy to have a young Labour activist boasting that he had a few beers at a function where she engaged with him!

There’s nothing to be gained naming the young person, or linking to the tweet; it has already been circulated fairly widely. It does however serve as a reminder to ALL political parties that they need to comply with the law when organising social functions.

In the meantime, we await a statement from the Commissioner of Police as to progress on the Summer Camp investigation; after all, you’d think that allegations of indecent assault would be rather more important to the Police than hosing down rumours about the PM’s partner.
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May 7, 2018 5:06pm
- ex-golfer
  
  When is Ali Mau’s investigation into the Labour Party camp scandal going to commence?
  #metoo
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:32pm
  - realityczech
    
    When is Labour Party activist Mike Bush going to deny any investigation?
    
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    May 7, 2018 5:44pm
- realityczech
  
  Keeping Stock, you don’t expect people to engage with Labour while in full control of their senses do you?
  
  Even I would probably have a chat with the stupid little bag of bones after a bottle of Grey Goose and some acid.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:33pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Do you mix that grey goose with soy or almond RC?
    
    The acid is a wash for your jeans right?
    
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    May 7, 2018 7:16pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  What Rumours?
  
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  May 7, 2018 7:30pm
wreck1080

“Denise L’Estrange-Corbet, World’s co-founder, has come under fire for the sourcing of her clothes.”

If you claim your clothes are made in NZ, you better make sure they are ALL made in NZ.

Her defense is that only 1% is made overseas. How are consumers supposed to take her word on this? Once your integrity is damaged it is hard to restore.

I don’t get why that 1% is so important to the bottom line that she has to go overseas to get them made!!

Classic case of “to explain is to lose!!!”

If it were me, I’d self flagellate to the public, own up to a huge mistake and promise in future to do things better!!
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May 7, 2018 5:15pm
- MCos
  
  It’s bad enough that an indeterminate percentage of her stuff is manufactured in Bangladesh at an obscure location, but they are conspicuously labeled as made here & only inconspicuously correctly labeled.
  
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  May 7, 2018 6:33pm
- Swifty
  
  Her interview tonight on RNZ was a train wreck – and she got abusive at the end.
  
  Illustrative.
  
  Another virtue-signaller caught out.
  
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  May 7, 2018 7:30pm
stigie

Ok, what’s the gossip on Penny Bright’s hovel and shouldn’t the said hovel been sold by now or is the course of justice being tampered with again and for how long..?
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May 7, 2018 5:17pm
Jack5

Informal “Cossacks” have been roughing up anti-Putin demonstrators in Moscow.

The Reds crushed Cossacks during the revolution, though a very small minority fought in the Red Army. Repression of Cossacks was brutal in 1920s and 1930s, because they had been strong in the White Army that fought the Reds.

Thousands of exiled Cossacks fought for the German Army in World War 2. Under Waffen SS command, they were used against local partisans in Yugoslavia and Northern Italy. This led to Britain’s morally questionable hand over of Cossack prisoners to the Red Army in 1945. Many Cossacks were slaughtered by the side of trains returning them, and their children were given to Communist families to raise.

Cossacks were traditionally mounted skirmishers, as in harassing Napoleon’s retreating troops, but, carrying whips, they were also the nasties in the pogroms, and in punishing resistance to Moscow in occupied countries like Latvia. They crushed city strikers and country peasants if they raised their heads too high.

The current “Cossacks” seem more like America’s urban cowboys than the feared Cossacks of old. The podgy types in the photograph in the report linked to here, don’t look as though they could dance Cossack style – still less, spring from the ground into the saddle.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/06/russian-police-release-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny
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May 7, 2018 5:37pm
- realityczech
  
  Screeching feminist haters horse whipped by Cossacks
  
  We need this here. I thought they were too restrained, maybe the cameras cramped their style.
  
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  May 7, 2018 5:41pm
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , you seem to get a perverse joy in beatings and clubbings.
    I wonder where that originated? Mum or Dad or both?
    
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    May 7, 2018 6:22pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Meh. You seem to get perverse pleasure from beating your club…
      
      Glasshouses and stones stephie-perv
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:23pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy believes only rape victims should be whipped.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:25pm
      - stephieboy
        
        You also get a perverted pleasure from watching beatings and clubbings?
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:27pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I get my perverse pleasures from “small but ample breasts”
        
        Oh no, wait…. that’s you ya dirty ole perv.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:32pm
      - nasska
        
        ….“small but ample breasts”…..
        
        He’s a sick unit. Imagine how the poor parishioners of that nut job church he belongs to feel every Sunday.
        
        I haven’t got much time for imbeciles who believe in Skydaddies but that is cruel & inhumane treatment.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:56pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy is helping Mt Roskill police with their enquiries after concerns were raised by the local Mosque.
        
        The District Commander reminded the small community that young girls who went to the mall together – without a male relative – were not filthy little whores up for grabs.
        
        Members of the public have been asked to come forward and report any suspicious activity to the hotline 0800 stephieperv
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , why morally questionable? Especially with the fact that Waffen SS in the East were involved in atrocities especially against Jews and other civilians .
  
  SS-Totenkopfverbänd
  
  https://ww2gravestone.com/ss-totenkopfverbande-deaths-head-units-was-the-ss-organization-responsible-for-the-nazi-concentration/
  
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  May 7, 2018 6:24pm
  - Jack5
    
    Oh, you are talking about the Waffen SS.
    
    Like the Waffen SS 13th Division, of Muslims.
    
    Like these:
    
    https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/muslim-waffen-ss-13th-division-1943/
    
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    May 7, 2018 8:30pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

Tonight Bic Runga. She started her music career while still at Cashmere High School, getting 3rd in the 1993 Rockquest with her two piece band Love Soup, winning a video recording (from Pagan records). Then she signed to Sony before her prize video was shown (so was quietly snuck in between two programs at a quiet time). That video can be seen here: https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/you-1994

Her solo career took off with such songs as Drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGUh30U4tQ
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May 7, 2018 5:57pm
EAD_TWO

Anyone notice whenever the latest yoof gets murdered they were always an “aspiring” (pick one of) Doctor, Architect, Pilot, Nuclear physicist etc. despite them having an IQ likely less than 80?

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-17-shot-dead-in-southwark-south-london-11360967

Here is the coverage of latest London (murder rate now overtaken NYC despite guns being illegal) murder victim.

Rhyhiem’s mother, Pretana Morgan, paid tribute to her son – an aspiring architect and rapper – and criticised police for “putting us in danger”.

It’s got so bad they have have hoodrat Trayvon Martin a posthumous aeronautical degree. Luckily for Boeing, he was already dead.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/us/trayvon-martin-degree.html
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May 7, 2018 6:40pm
- realityczech
  
  Trayvon came right, at the end.
  
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  May 7, 2018 6:43pm
  - Longknives
    
    Funny how the Media always publish photos of Trayvon when he was 12 or 13…
    Four or Five years before he was shot!
    
    https://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/index.html
    
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    May 7, 2018 6:50pm
    - realityczech
      
      That is one more Obama supporter who won’t be poppin no more caps in no crackers an shit
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:00pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Also how the Media repeated the narrative that Zimmerman was “white” despite being half Peruvian, half Jewish.
      
      Further, they painted Zimmerman, (despite being a upstanding respected member of the community) as some deranged madman and Trayvon as being a 12 y.o. choirboy who dindu nuffin.
      
      And people wonder why we hate and don’t trust the MSM
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:01pm
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD TWO, is racial purity to you a vitally important aspect of this case?
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:06pm
      - realityczech
        
        It was disgusting that Obama openly attacked the victim.
        
        Obama was a president who appointed as Race Ambassador a man who had publicly cried out for the killing of “crackers and cops”.
        
        Seems even a Jewish Latino was too white for his tastes!
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:09pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Longkives , they do no so thing. Your CNN link shows him at age about 17 and this Wiki article does the same,
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trayvon_Martin
      
      I suggest you may have a chip on both shoulders like rc above
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:04pm
      - realityczech
        
        stupidboy, who makes racist attacks on other commentors wives for being Tongan. Who talks about young Muslim Kiwi girls like they are pieces of meat for his depraved sexual fantasies.
        
        You have no code.
        
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        May 7, 2018 7:14pm
      - Jack5
        
        The Stephies are like specimens for immigration policy planners.
        
        Beware of admitting people from such cousin inter-breeding, Muslim-looney countries as Stephiestan.
        
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        May 7, 2018 8:35pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Aspiring ‘Rapper’ who looks and dresses like a ‘Gangsta’is shot by a rival Gang.
  But his Mum says he was a Saint and it’s the Police’s fault!
  Why do the media even report such utter drivel?…
  
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  May 7, 2018 6:47pm
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    Why do the media even report such utter drivel?…
    
    I think it’s a bit of an in-joke. “Architects” when their brothas in Africa tend to live in shacks, Doctors when their brothas practise witchcraft & Pilots when they can’t maintain roads.
    
    It’s the “aspiring” bit that gets me. It’s been a 4chan/ Flaherty meme for years.
    They must know.
    
    https://i1.wp.com/knuckledraggin.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/jared.jpg
    
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    May 7, 2018 7:14pm
    - realityczech
      
      Yet when a black person sees the light and supports Trump the same people tear them down. They like their blacks poor and desperate. I like mine treated equally same as everyone else.
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:19pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO , always one to find a way stir up your ever festering hatred of Jews and Blacks.
      
      Tell me still keeping tabs on the 2.3 million Polish Jews who disappeared off the fact of the earth WW2?
      
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      May 7, 2018 7:22pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO , also your nastiness and vindictiveness are utterly limitless.
  
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  May 7, 2018 7:30pm
  - realityczech
    
    stupidboy I have never seen EAD sink to the depths of personal attack you do.
    
    EAD does not direct his concerns at individuals, but at ideas and outcomes. He has never supported the mistreatment of blacks or Jews. He only asks that whites be given the same consideration as other cultures and races.
    
    You are way more racist than anyone on KB and way less honest about it.
    
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    May 7, 2018 7:35pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc,
      
      ” He has never supported the mistreatment of blacks or Jews. He only asks that whites be given the same consideration as other cultures and races.”
      
      Utter bollox !
      
      Everything but!
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:44pm
Gentleman Bastard

I can see I am not needed here tonight.
Bon nuit all!
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May 7, 2018 8:14pm
Monique Watson

SB lost his cuddle blanket about 11am.
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May 7, 2018 8:23pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=umfhS_1525679870

Proper video of Syrian migrant being shot after stabbing 3 people in the Netherlands (The Hague)

The man who was shot by Dutch police after stabbing several people in The Hague is identified as Malek F. (Suspects are generally not fully identified in The Netherlands until they are convicted.) He is further identified as a 31 years old Syrian asylum-seeker. In February, police had to be called to ‘his’ apartment after he threw ‘his’ furniture down onto the street nearly injuring pedestrians.
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May 7, 2018 8:32pm
- realityczech
  
  That is one who won’t be enriching the [rape] culture for a while.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:37pm
Jack5

When did the Second World War in Europe end? The Telegraph in Britain reports the Germans surrendered 72 years ago today, May 7.

However, Wednesday, May 9, is Russia’s Victory Day, the big celebration marking the defeat of Nazi Germany.
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May 7, 2018 8:49pm
- realityczech
  
  Russians beat the Germans and over 25 million Russians died. More died in concentration camps than any other group. Yet KB is still infested with Slavic hating Neo-Nazi.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:52pm
  - Inandout
    
    I watched a BBC doco on Stalin’s rise to the top, and wondered with all the savagery and killings he ordered, how he could still be a sort of hero upon his death. Very few Soviet families escaped his butchery, and he got satisfaction in naming people to be shot. His rather mundane ending took place in his bedroom where he suffered a stroke. Such was the fear he evoked that half a day elapsed before someone dared to enter his room to find him lying on the floor in his own urine. How ironic he suffered such a messy end.
    
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    May 7, 2018 9:31pm
    - realityczech
      
      He was worse than Hilter and the Soviets spread more death and misery than the Nazi ever intended. It only ended 20 odd years ago and they are still picking up the pieces. War is fucked.
      
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      May 7, 2018 9:33pm
  - stephieboy
    
    rc , including Slavic Ukranians ?
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:42pm
Inandout

How low will the Obamaphiles sink?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlG3q1Gqhgg
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May 7, 2018 8:55pm
- realityczech
  
  They are traitors and should be shot.
  
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  May 7, 2018 8:57pm
Monique Watson

Anybody excited about Hillary and Ardern’s breakfast meeting? I thought not. Hillary’s interview was full of: (raise eyes and look flabbergasted) “Trump was so unpredictable and mean to the disabled”. But now we know what we are dealing with. Subtext: “Elizabeth Warren is going to be my proxy and mouthpiece both in the midterms and the Presidential as the Dem candidate. Get ready for a battle of the sexes as I’ll be going out to thwart Sander’s proxy Edwards by pulling the woman card.
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May 7, 2018 9:39pm
Don the Kiwi

I didn’t watch the interview on one with La Hillary, but seeing a shot of her with the Toothy One was enough to put me off – what an overblown old hag she looks.
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May 7, 2018 9:40pm
- cha
  
  Benghazi – 4 years, no indictments.
  
  Hillary emails – 2 years, no indictments.
  
  Trump/Russia – 14 months, 23 indictments, 5 guilty pleas.
  
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  May 7, 2018 10:26pm
  - realityczech
    
    Cha is showing us how corrupt Hillary is and what is happening now Trump is draining the swamp of her putrid supporters.
    
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    May 7, 2018 10:29pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc, your voices getting to you?
      
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      May 7, 2018 10:40pm
sooty

Who looks the haggest of all cankles or helun?
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May 7, 2018 9:44pm
Rodney Randall

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/supreme_court_denies_appeal_in_sexual_abuse_of_10-year-old/10188676

The Supreme Court has rejected the prosecution’s request to appeal a three-year prison sentence handed down by a Pirkanmaa court for sexual crimes committed against a 10-year-old girl in autumn 2016.

The case attracted a great deal of attention because both the local district court and the court of appeal decided against handing down a verdict for aggravated rape.

The prosecution sought leave to appeal the verdict. It wanted a harsher conviction for the defendant – a 23-year-old asylum seeker – on the grounds of aggravated rape as well as the original verdict of aggravated sexual abuse. The prosecution also sought harsher sentencing for the man as well as heavier damages for the victim.

However the Supreme Court refused leave to appeal the conviction and sentence, leaving the original appeal court sentence unchanged.
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